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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:03,169 --> 00:00:05,296 [man] Okay, go ahead and roll cam. 3 00:00:05,296 --> 00:00:06,881 Here we go. 4 00:00:06,881 --> 00:00:09,092 [projector rattling] 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 6 00:00:09,092 --> 00:00:10,719 [beeps] 7 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:12,554 [power dies] 8 00:00:12,595 --> 00:00:15,015 -How's the speed? -[man 2] It's all good. 9 00:00:15,015 --> 00:00:16,641 -[man 1] All good. -[man 2] Okay. 10 00:00:19,728 --> 00:00:22,439 -Good? -[man 1] Yep. 11 00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:26,359 You know, I'd like to take this opportunity 12 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:31,698 to apologize to all the people that I stole waves from, 13 00:00:31,698 --> 00:00:35,076 because, you know, I know that 14 00:00:35,076 --> 00:00:37,787 my surfing has been a subject 15 00:00:37,787 --> 00:00:39,539 of admiration, 16 00:00:39,539 --> 00:00:42,333 and the way my surfing got to that level 17 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:45,670 is stealing a lot of waves from other surfers. 18 00:00:49,841 --> 00:00:52,469 You see, taking waves from other people 19 00:00:52,469 --> 00:00:56,056 is really the same thing as stealing, 20 00:00:56,056 --> 00:00:59,601 and if you do it enough, and I did it a lot, 21 00:00:59,601 --> 00:01:01,478 you can become pretty good at it. 22 00:01:05,398 --> 00:01:10,320 You also stop thinking about what a low thing it is. 23 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:15,867 [chuckles] 24 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:20,747 You know, everything that I read in my yoga studies 25 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:24,918 talked about full acceptance, no resistance, 26 00:01:24,918 --> 00:01:27,670 yielding, allowing, 27 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:31,382 nourishing, understanding, love. 28 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:40,975 And I guess my disharmonious behavior 29 00:01:40,975 --> 00:01:44,395 with a lot of other surfers I felt was, uh, 30 00:01:44,395 --> 00:01:47,816 balanced out by my trying to be in total harmony 31 00:01:47,816 --> 00:01:48,733 with the waves. 32 00:01:57,951 --> 00:02:01,788 You know, I've come to realize that yoga and surfing 33 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:05,166 have been perhaps the most significant 34 00:02:05,166 --> 00:02:07,502 yin-yang relationship, 35 00:02:07,502 --> 00:02:13,007 yin-yang balancing act of my entire life. 36 00:02:13,007 --> 00:02:14,467 [percussive jazz playing] 37 00:03:10,565 --> 00:03:12,567 [distant waves lapping] 38 00:03:49,729 --> 00:03:51,689 [subdued percussive music playing] 39 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:07,956 [dramatic music swelling] 40 00:06:07,075 --> 00:06:10,870 I'd probably spent a good 30 years of my life 41 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:12,372 surfing this wave, 42 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:16,125 and I felt I'd kind of learned something, 43 00:06:16,125 --> 00:06:17,543 learned how to ride it, 44 00:06:17,585 --> 00:06:20,088 learned to be comfortable with it, 45 00:06:20,129 --> 00:06:22,423 actually felt I had 46 00:06:22,423 --> 00:06:24,550 a special relationship with this wave. 47 00:06:27,970 --> 00:06:30,848 It really had a personality. 48 00:06:30,848 --> 00:06:32,934 It was so intense all the way, 49 00:06:32,934 --> 00:06:36,187 and you were dodging landslides and earthquakes, 50 00:06:36,187 --> 00:06:40,024 and there was a big awakening at the end of the Pipeline. 51 00:06:40,024 --> 00:06:41,859 Because that tube was so big, 52 00:06:41,859 --> 00:06:43,820 when it compressed at the end, 53 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:46,322 the spit would come out 54 00:06:46,322 --> 00:06:47,865 and, whoosh... 55 00:06:47,865 --> 00:06:50,326 blow you right off your board. 56 00:06:52,537 --> 00:06:55,915 You know, the funny thing is about the Pipeline 57 00:06:55,915 --> 00:07:00,169 is that it all happened pretty quickly. 58 00:07:00,211 --> 00:07:02,088 I mean, in high school, honestly, 59 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:07,760 I never had any dreams about surfing, 60 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,473 going anywhere than right where I was with it. 61 00:07:12,473 --> 00:07:16,394 Surfing didn't really click for me till I was in college. 62 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,312 [rock guitar playing] 63 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:38,708 When I graduated high school, 64 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:40,835 out of 500 people, I was number 250, 65 00:07:40,877 --> 00:07:44,922 so I was as average as you could be. 66 00:07:44,922 --> 00:07:49,302 I ended up going to California to go to college in 1966. 67 00:07:49,343 --> 00:07:53,431 It was actually my first time out of Hawaii. 68 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:58,352 I didn't really give it the time that I should have. 69 00:07:58,394 --> 00:08:03,191 It was like I was just kind of going wherever life took me. 70 00:08:03,232 --> 00:08:06,235 ['60s music playing] 71 00:08:06,277 --> 00:08:09,197 I met a guy that lived in Whittier. 72 00:08:09,238 --> 00:08:12,783 He was a surfer, and we became friends. 73 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:15,453 ♪ Ba ba bee ba ba ba boo buh buh ♪ 74 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:17,538 ♪ Whoo whoo whoo ♪ 75 00:08:17,538 --> 00:08:19,040 He had this great van. 76 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,918 He goes, "Let's go take a trip down to Mexico." 77 00:08:21,918 --> 00:08:24,045 [singer shrieks] 78 00:08:24,045 --> 00:08:27,131 You know, in those days you crossed the border with a driver's license. 79 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:31,302 We went down and ended up 80 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:33,179 at like K38.5 or so, 81 00:08:33,221 --> 00:08:34,680 and looked out, man! 82 00:08:34,722 --> 00:08:38,559 There are these glassy, cool-looking waves out there. 83 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,478 So we went out surfing. 84 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,313 [acoustic guitar playing] 85 00:08:45,691 --> 00:08:48,736 It was cold. The water was freezing. 86 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:53,491 Eventually I got too cold. I went in. 87 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:55,660 The sun had been out for a while 88 00:08:55,701 --> 00:08:58,663 so the rocks on the beach were big black rocks, 89 00:08:58,663 --> 00:09:02,375 you know, and I knew that they were gonna be warm, 90 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:04,794 so I crawled on one. 91 00:09:08,381 --> 00:09:10,800 I was laying on my back, I had my eyes closed, 92 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,553 and I was seeing, in my mind's eye, 93 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:16,013 images of surfing. 94 00:09:18,224 --> 00:09:20,810 All of the sudden, I looked a little closer, 95 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:25,731 and it was the first time I saw an image 96 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:28,651 in my mind's eye of me surfing. 97 00:09:28,693 --> 00:09:30,653 [guitar playing hard rock] 98 00:09:45,835 --> 00:09:48,879 I was doing all these things that I'd never done before on a surf board. 99 00:09:52,883 --> 00:09:55,386 Suddenly, I'm just going, "Wow! 100 00:09:55,386 --> 00:09:58,097 Look at me, man, I'm ripping!" 101 00:10:11,902 --> 00:10:15,239 I was born to be a surfer. 102 00:10:15,239 --> 00:10:17,950 I didn't know it until that moment. 103 00:10:17,992 --> 00:10:20,578 [cool jazz playing] 104 00:10:30,004 --> 00:10:33,841 Ala Moana was the whole foundation 105 00:10:33,841 --> 00:10:36,135 of my development as a surfer. 106 00:10:38,846 --> 00:10:41,474 I mean, I surfed every other place, 107 00:10:41,474 --> 00:10:43,643 but Ala Moana was the place 108 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:46,270 where it kind of all came together. 109 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:51,317 It had a tube 110 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:54,654 and was the first wave that I saw 111 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:58,658 legitimate tube riding going on back in the early '60s. 112 00:10:58,699 --> 00:11:00,951 ['60s guitar music playing] 113 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,832 There was a surfing milkman named Conrad Canha, 114 00:11:06,874 --> 00:11:11,295 who for some reason was thinking ten years ahead in his approach. 115 00:11:14,715 --> 00:11:16,801 [Gerry] When it came to tube riding, 116 00:11:16,801 --> 00:11:20,137 I don't know if anybody else was doing that before him. 117 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:23,224 He was this short little guy with a cannonball stomach 118 00:11:23,265 --> 00:11:25,142 that he would use to his advantage 119 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:27,937 and throw that stomach to accelerate. 120 00:11:34,318 --> 00:11:38,072 He'd take off, and if you were paddling out from the side, 121 00:11:38,072 --> 00:11:39,407 he would disappear. 122 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:52,294 And, pfft, come out the other end. 123 00:11:52,336 --> 00:11:54,630 And I watched that and went, 124 00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:57,133 "Man! I wanna learn how to do that." 125 00:11:57,174 --> 00:11:59,176 [rock guitar playing] 126 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:04,974 [man] Early mid-'60s, Gerry, myself, 127 00:12:04,974 --> 00:12:06,517 and the rest of us in the neighborhood 128 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,269 were all riding long boards. 129 00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:09,603 Then in 1967 began 130 00:12:09,603 --> 00:12:10,730 what was known 131 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,231 as the shortboard revolution, 132 00:12:12,231 --> 00:12:13,315 and it basically took 133 00:12:13,315 --> 00:12:14,608 from '67 to '69. 134 00:12:14,608 --> 00:12:16,402 Board went from 10 foot to 7 foot. 135 00:12:18,904 --> 00:12:20,865 And in that period, 136 00:12:20,865 --> 00:12:24,160 it made a whole new generation of surfers. 137 00:12:31,208 --> 00:12:34,336 [Gerry] My first surfboard was a big longboard, 138 00:12:34,336 --> 00:12:36,922 and I didn't have enough money to buy a new one. 139 00:12:36,922 --> 00:12:39,341 So a good friend of mine, Buddy Dunphy, 140 00:12:39,383 --> 00:12:41,719 goes, "Well, let's make our own surfboards." 141 00:12:43,846 --> 00:12:45,473 So we got our old longboards 142 00:12:45,514 --> 00:12:47,475 and we stripped the fiberglass off them 143 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:51,061 and, in his father's garage on sawhorses. 144 00:12:51,103 --> 00:12:53,314 You know, he went first and he made his surfboard, 145 00:12:53,314 --> 00:12:55,816 and then he was done and it was my turn. 146 00:12:55,858 --> 00:12:57,777 I made my surfboard, 147 00:12:57,777 --> 00:13:00,529 and I went down to the Hare Krishna shop 148 00:13:00,571 --> 00:13:03,908 and bought a poster and cut out the blue Ganesh elephant, 149 00:13:03,949 --> 00:13:07,077 and I glass that on the board, that was my logo. 150 00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:15,044 And then we had surfboards that we'd made. 151 00:13:15,085 --> 00:13:17,004 "Okay, let's go down to the beach and surf them." 152 00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:19,131 [rock music playing] 153 00:13:21,842 --> 00:13:24,261 So we paddled out at Ala Moana on these new boards 154 00:13:24,303 --> 00:13:26,305 and everybody's looking at them, you know, 155 00:13:26,347 --> 00:13:30,351 'cause most of the guys are still on their longboards. 156 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:33,646 And we took off, and I remember thinking, 157 00:13:33,687 --> 00:13:36,982 "Man, my board rides like the wind, man." 158 00:13:45,282 --> 00:13:47,952 "This is the greatest board I've ever had," you know. 159 00:13:47,993 --> 00:13:50,746 And I look at Dunphy and he's coming on the next wave. 160 00:13:50,746 --> 00:13:53,040 He comes up next to me and I go, 161 00:13:53,082 --> 00:13:57,378 "This is the best board I've ever had," and he goes, "Same here." 162 00:13:57,378 --> 00:13:59,797 And we rode a few more waves 163 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,549 and, you know, I paddled in, 164 00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:04,009 and there was another friend in the parking lot, 165 00:14:04,009 --> 00:14:06,971 and he came up to me just as I'm climbing out of the water, 166 00:14:07,012 --> 00:14:11,225 and he's got money in his hand, you know, and he says, "I got $80, I want that board." 167 00:14:11,267 --> 00:14:15,396 And I looked at the money and I looked at the board, 168 00:14:15,437 --> 00:14:17,523 and I thought back, "Okay, 169 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:19,942 $15 was all I paid for this board." 170 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:22,444 I grabbed the money and gave him the board, 171 00:14:22,444 --> 00:14:25,406 and I was in the surfboard business just like that. 172 00:14:28,117 --> 00:14:30,744 Pretty soon guys were ordering boards from me, 173 00:14:30,744 --> 00:14:32,496 and the next thing I know, 174 00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:36,292 Fred Swartz offers me a job, a real job 175 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:38,669 at Surf Line Hawaii, 176 00:14:38,669 --> 00:14:39,753 shaping surfboards 177 00:14:39,795 --> 00:14:41,297 under my own name. 178 00:14:41,297 --> 00:14:43,924 It was kind of a big deal. 179 00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:47,678 I had a job! 180 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,597 ['60s rock music playing] 181 00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:53,893 [Randy] Up through the late '60s, 182 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,604 Surf Line was the main shop in Hawaii. 183 00:14:56,604 --> 00:14:58,689 It was the place to be. 184 00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:01,567 It had the best shapers, designers. 185 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:04,236 It was kind of the epicenter where things were happening. 186 00:15:04,278 --> 00:15:07,781 And Jack Shipley was working as the head sales guy there. 187 00:15:07,781 --> 00:15:12,828 Jack was managing Surf Line for the owner, Fred Swartz. 188 00:15:12,828 --> 00:15:16,832 It was during that period, we became pretty good friends. 189 00:15:16,832 --> 00:15:18,500 [Jack] I sold the boards 190 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:20,961 and Gerry worked in the shaping department in the back 191 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:23,672 and we became sort of fans of each other. 192 00:15:23,672 --> 00:15:26,133 He appreciated what I did, and vice versa. 193 00:15:26,175 --> 00:15:29,595 [Gerry] We surfed together, we did a lot together, 194 00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:32,765 and, you know, I realized that if you want to be a surfer, 195 00:15:32,806 --> 00:15:35,684 this is the best job you can have. 196 00:15:39,021 --> 00:15:41,857 So at the same time all this stuff was happening, 197 00:15:41,899 --> 00:15:43,400 yoga came into my life. 198 00:15:46,195 --> 00:15:48,405 One day I saw a group of girls 199 00:15:48,405 --> 00:15:51,116 looking at this announcement for a yoga class, 200 00:15:51,158 --> 00:15:53,202 and I went to that yoga class 201 00:15:53,243 --> 00:15:54,870 expecting to see them again. 202 00:15:54,912 --> 00:15:58,040 And this was like an outdoor class, 203 00:15:58,082 --> 00:16:00,668 and the instructor was this young gal. 204 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:11,470 And I remember just watching her move, 205 00:16:11,512 --> 00:16:13,681 going, "Wow! 206 00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:17,226 Look at how smooth and fluid that is." 207 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:21,063 By the end of the class, 208 00:16:21,063 --> 00:16:23,732 I was convinced that yoga 209 00:16:23,732 --> 00:16:27,528 was gonna make my surfing better. 210 00:16:27,528 --> 00:16:30,114 Right from the start, I dove into it. 211 00:16:30,155 --> 00:16:32,491 I embraced it in a bear hug. 212 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:35,369 But I went to the Honolulu bookstore 213 00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,455 and I said, "Let me see all your books on yoga." 214 00:16:38,455 --> 00:16:39,790 The one that I still have 215 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:41,500 and really made an impression on me 216 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,378 was "The Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga" 217 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:46,922 by Swami Vishnudevananda. 218 00:16:51,343 --> 00:16:54,304 From the beginning, there was this relationship 219 00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:57,933 that I was striving for between surfing and yoga. 220 00:17:00,352 --> 00:17:04,023 It wasn't something that I had to bond with. 221 00:17:04,064 --> 00:17:06,025 I was already bonded with it. 222 00:17:07,526 --> 00:17:08,986 I remember thinking that 223 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:11,905 if I could be as smooth doing the poses 224 00:17:11,947 --> 00:17:15,117 on my surfboard, then I could be a good surfer. 225 00:17:21,999 --> 00:17:24,376 [intense surf music playing] 226 00:17:28,297 --> 00:17:29,840 I was 20 years old. 227 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,926 I felt like my surfing was improving. 228 00:17:32,926 --> 00:17:34,428 I was doing my yoga. 229 00:17:34,428 --> 00:17:37,014 I was competing in events. 230 00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:39,850 I had gone to the U.S. championships 231 00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:41,310 in Huntington Beach. 232 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:48,942 [Sam] I saw an article in "Surfer" magazine about the U.S. championships 233 00:17:48,984 --> 00:17:52,362 in 1969, and there was this kid from Hawaii, 234 00:17:52,362 --> 00:17:55,157 Gerry Lopez, sitting in his contest jersey, 235 00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:56,784 in the full lotus position, 236 00:17:56,784 --> 00:17:58,827 meditating before going out on his heat. 237 00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:04,374 The next thing you know, he's on the cover of "Surfer" magazine, 1970, 238 00:18:04,374 --> 00:18:06,293 ripping at Ala Moana. 239 00:18:09,421 --> 00:18:11,173 If you were on the cover of "Surfer," 240 00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:13,675 that meant that you are a real up-and-comer. 241 00:18:13,675 --> 00:18:17,054 You know, there he is on the mainland, one of the best surfers in the United States, 242 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:21,225 and there was sort of some foreshadowing that he was really something special. 243 00:18:23,685 --> 00:18:25,395 [Gerry] In that time period, 244 00:18:25,395 --> 00:18:27,648 I was still working at Surf Line, 245 00:18:27,648 --> 00:18:30,067 my boards were just becoming popular. 246 00:18:30,067 --> 00:18:31,860 Working for Fred was tough. 247 00:18:31,860 --> 00:18:34,238 You know, he wanted it his way. 248 00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:37,825 [Jack] You know, the owner had a little bit different vision with things, 249 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:40,911 and he was really into sales and numbers and all that kind of stuff. 250 00:18:40,953 --> 00:18:43,705 [Gerry] And Jack had the idea, 251 00:18:43,705 --> 00:18:46,500 "Well, maybe we could start our own shop." 252 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:53,882 There was this shop that was up for sale. 253 00:18:53,924 --> 00:18:55,551 It was the old Hobie shop, 254 00:18:55,592 --> 00:18:57,678 which was the original surf shop in Hawaii. 255 00:18:57,719 --> 00:19:02,975 So we got into the shop, it was the summer of 1970, 256 00:19:03,016 --> 00:19:06,061 and then we had to come up with a name for the shop, 257 00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:08,063 and a couple months before, 258 00:19:08,063 --> 00:19:09,898 a friend of mine was smoking a joint, 259 00:19:09,898 --> 00:19:12,067 and he says, "Hey, guys, gotta try this. 260 00:19:12,067 --> 00:19:14,027 I call it Lightning Bolt." 261 00:19:14,069 --> 00:19:16,989 And Jack smoked it and went, "Wow, this is really great," 262 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:20,075 and months later at the shop, we're going, "Okay, 263 00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:22,035 well, what are we gonna call it?", you know. 264 00:19:22,035 --> 00:19:24,997 And all of the sudden, Maryann was in the kitchen, 265 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,957 this is Jack's wife, and she goes, 266 00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:28,792 "Why don't you call it 'Lightning Bolt'?" 267 00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:31,211 And we went... 268 00:19:31,211 --> 00:19:33,797 "Okay. Let's call it Lightning Bolt." 269 00:19:33,797 --> 00:19:35,382 [thunder crashing] 270 00:19:35,382 --> 00:19:37,467 [rock music playing] 271 00:19:42,848 --> 00:19:46,226 It really escalated very quickly from there. 272 00:19:46,268 --> 00:19:51,190 I mean, in a matter of months, it was really popular. 273 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:54,443 You know, and then we suffered a pretty big setback, 274 00:19:54,443 --> 00:19:56,904 'cause we started in the summer 275 00:19:56,904 --> 00:20:01,491 and it was the night before Thanksgiving 276 00:20:01,491 --> 00:20:03,577 that all of the sudden we got a call 277 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,412 at like 2:00 in the morning, 278 00:20:05,412 --> 00:20:08,498 they go, "Hey, your surf shop's on fire." 279 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:09,958 What?! 280 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,009 We went down there and the whole shop was burned. 281 00:20:21,345 --> 00:20:23,972 The fire investigators came around, they go, 282 00:20:23,972 --> 00:20:26,934 "Hey, this was arson. 283 00:20:26,975 --> 00:20:29,603 Somebody squirted a flammable liquid 284 00:20:29,603 --> 00:20:31,146 under your back door here." 285 00:20:31,188 --> 00:20:34,274 They said, "This is exactly how the fire started, 286 00:20:34,274 --> 00:20:35,984 and it spread to here." 287 00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:39,696 [man] Who did it? 288 00:20:41,156 --> 00:20:43,533 Somebody that was not happy with us. 289 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,413 [Randy] A year before that, I left Surf Line 290 00:20:48,455 --> 00:20:51,959 and opened a Dewey Weber dealership down the road. 291 00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:55,170 The owner of Surf Line, Fred Swartz, 292 00:20:55,170 --> 00:20:57,422 I actually caught him looking in the window of my shop, 293 00:20:57,464 --> 00:21:00,175 right before I opened it up, and then the next day, 294 00:21:00,175 --> 00:21:02,886 all the windows in my shop got broken. 295 00:21:02,886 --> 00:21:06,098 Well, a year later, Gerry and Jack Shipley 296 00:21:06,139 --> 00:21:08,976 got their store up and running, and there was a big fire 297 00:21:08,976 --> 00:21:10,936 that the whole shop got caught on fire, 298 00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:14,982 and unfortunately it reflected back on Surf Line. 299 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:19,444 Everything was gone. 300 00:21:19,444 --> 00:21:21,530 So we started again. 301 00:21:34,626 --> 00:21:36,712 Right from the beginning, 302 00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:38,797 it was clearly delineated. 303 00:21:38,797 --> 00:21:40,549 Jack ran the shop, 304 00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:42,968 I went and shaped and built boards. 305 00:21:43,010 --> 00:21:46,555 You know, Gerry wanted to work as little as possible, 306 00:21:46,596 --> 00:21:50,434 but he was really good to me and to the shop 307 00:21:50,434 --> 00:21:51,977 when the surf was bad. 308 00:21:52,019 --> 00:21:55,230 Luckily, the surf was not good all the time. 309 00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:02,112 His talent was unbelievable. 310 00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:04,573 His hands, he's got magic hands. 311 00:22:14,124 --> 00:22:16,793 The boards that he made were really special. 312 00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:21,423 None of them were ever hurried, 'cause he was pretty slow. 313 00:22:21,465 --> 00:22:23,717 He was slow because he was a perfectionist. 314 00:22:26,136 --> 00:22:28,930 His work was real easy to represent 315 00:22:28,972 --> 00:22:30,891 for me as the salesperson 316 00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:34,144 and real easy to sell and get out the door. 317 00:22:38,732 --> 00:22:41,693 What was happening with surfboards 318 00:22:41,735 --> 00:22:47,074 was happening and changing on a day-to-day basis. 319 00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:49,659 Lightning Bolt was at the forefront of that. 320 00:22:51,995 --> 00:22:54,706 Our shop was in town, which is the South Shore. 321 00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:57,459 You know, the southern swells coming from the southern hemi. 322 00:22:57,459 --> 00:23:00,670 In the wintertime, we were surfing the North Shore, 323 00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:04,091 which was where all the winter swells came to, 324 00:23:04,091 --> 00:23:08,220 and the North Shore was a whole different mindset. 325 00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:28,532 There's a lot of great surfers 326 00:23:28,532 --> 00:23:30,742 that surfed the Pipeline before me, 327 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:33,787 but they weren't having a lot of success 328 00:23:33,787 --> 00:23:36,706 because their equipment was holding them back. 329 00:23:36,706 --> 00:23:39,418 [man] The surfer had to overcome his board 330 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,628 as well as survive the power of the wave, 331 00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:43,839 which was jacking on the reef 332 00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:45,674 and the roundness of the tube 333 00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:48,260 and the immense amount of water in the lip 334 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:51,012 and the shallowness of the bottom. 335 00:23:59,187 --> 00:24:01,356 [Gerry] Because it was so intense, 336 00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:03,316 not that many people surfed there. 337 00:24:03,316 --> 00:24:05,569 So this was this spot 338 00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:07,112 that was kind of empty. 339 00:24:10,949 --> 00:24:14,494 I liked that space, 340 00:24:14,536 --> 00:24:17,414 that space where I'm not having 341 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:19,666 to jockey so much with other surfers 342 00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:22,043 to try and figure a wave out. 343 00:24:22,043 --> 00:24:25,338 [intense music playing] 344 00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:27,424 I spent a lot of time there, 345 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:29,926 and it took a lot of time to figure it out. 346 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:35,348 'Cause it was a tricky spot. 347 00:24:35,348 --> 00:24:38,518 I mean, it was, you know, way more than Ala Moana. 348 00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:41,480 I mean, Ala Moana was friendly. 349 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,024 It was soft, it was forgiving. 350 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:46,943 It really was welcoming. 351 00:24:46,943 --> 00:24:49,571 But Pipeline was fierce, you know. 352 00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,114 It wanted to bite you. 353 00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:52,657 It could hurt you. 354 00:24:55,327 --> 00:24:58,371 Early shots you see of Gerry trying to surf Pipeline, 355 00:24:58,371 --> 00:25:01,166 he's trying to figure how to get those straight stiff boards 356 00:25:01,208 --> 00:25:02,918 to fit into the wave. 357 00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:06,546 [Gerry] That was a big obstacle that had to be overcome, 358 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:08,298 and I went through a lot of surfboards 359 00:25:08,298 --> 00:25:11,384 in the process of doing that. 360 00:25:11,426 --> 00:25:14,179 Eventually, we had tossed around this idea 361 00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:15,472 of a 9-inch tail, 362 00:25:15,472 --> 00:25:17,474 a foot up from the tail, 363 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:20,602 and that was what a Waimea gun had. 364 00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:23,438 Nobody had a board for any of the other spots 365 00:25:23,438 --> 00:25:25,065 that had a tail that narrow, 366 00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:26,942 and I went, "Well, I'm gonna try that." 367 00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:29,277 And I made this board, and I looked at it, 368 00:25:29,277 --> 00:25:33,198 and I went, "Wow, no one's got a board like this, 369 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:37,077 but, well, I'll give it a try," and I went ahead and shaped it. 370 00:25:37,118 --> 00:25:41,873 Went out and, I mean, right from the very first wave, 371 00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:43,500 I went, "Ooh. 372 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,002 I think I got something here." 373 00:26:15,615 --> 00:26:16,908 You've got to remember, 374 00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:21,663 there was no history behind him. 375 00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:23,790 He is making it himself. 376 00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:29,629 [man] It's not that hard to paddle into a wave at Pipeline. 377 00:26:29,629 --> 00:26:31,506 You can force yourself to do that. 378 00:26:31,506 --> 00:26:33,758 It's the really, really, really rare surfer 379 00:26:33,758 --> 00:26:35,677 who can then get to their feet 380 00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:39,139 and keep their heart rate down and stay more or less relaxed. 381 00:26:39,180 --> 00:26:43,310 [sitar playing] 382 00:26:43,351 --> 00:26:44,978 [Gerry] Studying yoga, 383 00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:48,273 that's what allowed everything to happen 384 00:26:48,273 --> 00:26:49,983 at the Pipeline for me. 385 00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:53,820 ♪ Tangerine ♪ 386 00:26:56,740 --> 00:27:01,536 ♪ Come back to me ♪ 387 00:27:01,536 --> 00:27:05,665 [Sam] There's a real fascinating advertisement in "Surfer" magazine 388 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:12,130 in 1972 for a guru named Yogananda. 389 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:15,634 [Gerry] I started reading 390 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,803 Yogananda's "Autobiography of a Yogi." 391 00:27:18,845 --> 00:27:22,599 It really revealed to me, obviously, 392 00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:24,517 the concept of yin and yang, 393 00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:27,437 which is more of a Chinese philosophy, 394 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:31,358 but also a very big part of yoga philosophy, 395 00:27:31,358 --> 00:27:33,652 especially the part where it said 396 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:37,238 that health and harmony is created 397 00:27:37,238 --> 00:27:40,116 when yin and yang are in balance. 398 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:41,743 [man] Can I read something he said... 399 00:27:41,743 --> 00:27:43,828 -Yeah. -[man] ...in "Surfer" magazine, 400 00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:45,872 that you also appear in. 401 00:27:45,872 --> 00:27:50,085 He says, "A person with a calm mind is a happy person. 402 00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:52,003 Instead of becoming uptight, 403 00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:55,090 one should be able to swing into intense activity 404 00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:56,758 and like the pendulum, 405 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:59,094 return to the center of calmness. 406 00:27:59,135 --> 00:28:01,805 Yoga produces that calmness." 407 00:28:01,846 --> 00:28:03,264 Isn't that amazing? 408 00:28:03,264 --> 00:28:05,642 And that was in "Surfer" magazine. 409 00:28:05,642 --> 00:28:08,228 [Sam] What Yogananda is preaching, so to speak, 410 00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:12,857 was this balance, a pendulum swing, 411 00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:16,194 between dynamic action and stillness and calm, 412 00:28:16,194 --> 00:28:18,863 and that it's that pendulum swing, 413 00:28:18,863 --> 00:28:21,366 not living in one space, not living in the other, 414 00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:23,076 but the balance of the two, 415 00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:25,912 and you can really see, Gerry took that 416 00:28:25,912 --> 00:28:29,666 and he applied it to the incredibly dynamic sport 417 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,042 of surfing. 418 00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:33,002 ['60s guitar music playing] 419 00:28:38,633 --> 00:28:42,011 [Gerry] I understand that that balance isn't static. 420 00:28:42,011 --> 00:28:47,183 You know, it's constant, you know, readjusting. 421 00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:50,895 All of that requires tremendous discipline. 422 00:28:50,937 --> 00:28:52,480 You know, you gotta practice, 423 00:28:52,522 --> 00:28:54,566 you gotta do it over and over again. 424 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,776 But that's what surfing was too. 425 00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:59,571 And that's why both of them 426 00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:02,824 were things that I embraced 427 00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:04,617 more than anything else in life, 428 00:29:04,617 --> 00:29:08,496 because to me they were going the same way. 429 00:29:08,538 --> 00:29:11,207 They were side by side. 430 00:29:13,042 --> 00:29:16,254 I needed that same stillness and calmness 431 00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:18,047 at the Pipeline. 432 00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:22,051 You have to be at peace with this wave. 433 00:29:24,387 --> 00:29:27,766 You had to have that type of concentration 434 00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:30,894 where your mind was steady. 435 00:29:30,894 --> 00:29:35,565 For your mind to be still, your breath has to be still. 436 00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:38,902 And to calm the breath, your body must be still. 437 00:29:38,902 --> 00:29:40,945 So, you know, a lot of times 438 00:29:40,945 --> 00:29:43,990 you'd see pictures of me standing really still. 439 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:46,826 Well, I'm not standing really still, I'm going like a bat outta hell 440 00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:49,788 because the surfboard's going really fast, 441 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,956 but my body is still 442 00:29:51,956 --> 00:29:56,002 because I'm trying to still my mind. 443 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,175 And that was really the only way 444 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:07,222 to really connect with that wave at the Pipeline. 445 00:30:07,222 --> 00:30:11,017 In a western sense, the concept is, 446 00:30:11,059 --> 00:30:15,313 you're riding this wave and you're concentrating on it, 447 00:30:15,313 --> 00:30:18,983 but you're concentrating by thinking all these thoughts 448 00:30:18,983 --> 00:30:20,527 about this wave. 449 00:30:20,568 --> 00:30:24,906 And yogic concentration is much different. 450 00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:31,371 It's one-pointed focus on the object of concentration. 451 00:30:31,412 --> 00:30:37,544 By focusing your mind steadily on this object, 452 00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:42,090 you actually absorb the essence 453 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,511 of your object of concentration of this wave, 454 00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:51,808 and this is what developed for me at the Pipeline. 455 00:30:51,808 --> 00:30:53,768 [contemplative music playing] 456 00:31:33,641 --> 00:31:38,354 To be a great surfer you have to have some kind of physical advantage. 457 00:31:38,396 --> 00:31:40,732 You have to have great balance, 458 00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:44,027 great awareness about your body. 459 00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:47,363 Every great surfer has to be blessed with some kind 460 00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:50,033 of special, and he's one of them. 461 00:32:16,517 --> 00:32:19,312 When you see Gerry Lopez, 462 00:32:19,312 --> 00:32:24,359 there's this connectivity of tissue 463 00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:28,321 with the connectivity of water. 464 00:32:37,246 --> 00:32:40,333 [Matt] You don't get to be that relaxed and that calm 465 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:42,210 and that serene 466 00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:45,296 without having put in the 10,000 hours, 467 00:32:45,296 --> 00:32:47,131 without having taken so many wipeouts 468 00:32:47,131 --> 00:32:49,592 and knowing that you can come up and also getting hurt 469 00:32:49,592 --> 00:32:51,344 and knowing that you're going to heal. 470 00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:54,681 And also looking at so many waves 471 00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:57,475 until you know just which one you want. 472 00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:04,691 There's a hard side to Gerry 473 00:33:04,732 --> 00:33:08,695 that I don't think has ever been part of his public version. 474 00:33:08,736 --> 00:33:12,115 Without a doubt, he's incredibly competitive. 475 00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:17,370 Man, it was head to head with Gerry at Pipeline. 476 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:24,085 Gerry wanted that best wave, that best barrel. 477 00:33:24,085 --> 00:33:25,878 [Gerry] I was a terrible person. 478 00:33:25,878 --> 00:33:29,465 I had no qualms whatsoever about taking waves 479 00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:33,386 from people that were already trying to ride them. 480 00:33:46,482 --> 00:33:49,569 Gerry was actually one of the most aggressive surfers 481 00:33:49,569 --> 00:33:50,903 on the North Shore. 482 00:33:50,945 --> 00:33:54,115 He's out there to get waves and surf well, 483 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:55,950 and he's very serious about it. 484 00:33:55,992 --> 00:33:58,745 [Steve] Because he was so Zen and elegant and smooth, 485 00:33:58,745 --> 00:34:01,205 it didn't mean he was passive. 486 00:34:01,247 --> 00:34:04,292 He went after what he wanted and took it. 487 00:34:09,213 --> 00:34:11,549 He'll command respect because he's Gerry Lopez, 488 00:34:11,591 --> 00:34:14,260 and people will part ways for a little bit. 489 00:34:21,350 --> 00:34:22,935 [Gerry] In the early '70s, 490 00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:25,938 surfing was going through this growth period 491 00:34:25,938 --> 00:34:28,941 where all of the sudden, there were too many surfers, 492 00:34:28,983 --> 00:34:30,777 too many good surfers, 493 00:34:30,777 --> 00:34:34,906 and the whole traditional social order of the lineup 494 00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:36,824 was being altered. 495 00:34:36,866 --> 00:34:38,785 In this new world, 496 00:34:38,826 --> 00:34:40,953 you absolutely had to be aggressive. 497 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:49,253 [Tom] Tempers flare, it gets very aggressive out there. 498 00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:50,671 The air can get thick, 499 00:34:50,671 --> 00:34:52,965 and there can be physical interaction 500 00:34:52,965 --> 00:34:54,801 between the surfers. 501 00:34:54,801 --> 00:34:56,511 It's primeval, you know. 502 00:34:56,511 --> 00:34:59,555 It is pretty much law of the jungle at that point. 503 00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:02,058 [Matt] To own a spot like Pipeline 504 00:35:02,058 --> 00:35:03,768 the way Gerry owned Pipeline, 505 00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:06,521 you don't do that by, you know, Zen and mellow. 506 00:35:06,521 --> 00:35:09,941 You do it up by being hard ass. 507 00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:11,776 [Sam] Most of the people at Pipeline 508 00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:14,153 have got their hearts in their throat, 509 00:35:14,153 --> 00:35:15,613 that he would drop down 510 00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:17,657 on a big Pipeline widowmaker 511 00:35:17,657 --> 00:35:19,742 and tweak his nose a little bit 512 00:35:19,742 --> 00:35:21,661 before he pulled into the barrel. 513 00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:23,955 Think of how that subtle intimidation 514 00:35:23,996 --> 00:35:26,249 worked for the rest of that crowd. 515 00:35:32,588 --> 00:35:36,134 If you take it from a western perspective, there's kind of an enigma there. 516 00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:38,761 You're thinking, "Well, Gerry's just this mellow guy on shore 517 00:35:38,761 --> 00:35:41,139 and then this tiger shark out in the water." 518 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:42,682 You know, he can't be both, 519 00:35:42,682 --> 00:35:44,183 but from an eastern viewpoint, 520 00:35:44,183 --> 00:35:46,102 from Taoism, from the yin and the yang, 521 00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,645 you can be both at the same time. 522 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:50,231 The true sage, the true bodhi, 523 00:35:50,273 --> 00:35:53,317 he goes down the middle, and that's what Gerry does. 524 00:36:01,284 --> 00:36:03,703 What people don't say about Gerry is, 525 00:36:03,744 --> 00:36:07,415 apart from getting the most beautiful tube rides in that period, 526 00:36:07,415 --> 00:36:10,293 I think he took the most vicious wipeouts of that period, too, 527 00:36:10,293 --> 00:36:13,004 so the magic didn't always work, 528 00:36:13,045 --> 00:36:14,714 the sleight of hand didn't always work. 529 00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:17,967 I mean, he just got punished out there. 530 00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:33,107 I remember one time I had this kind of unusual wipeout, and I landed on my fin. 531 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,446 And stabbed me pretty good, you know, 532 00:36:38,446 --> 00:36:41,282 and I remember, as I was being tumbled, 533 00:36:41,282 --> 00:36:43,868 reaching back and feeling the tear in my shorts 534 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:47,580 and feeling my hand go into the wound, 535 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:51,209 and all four fingers went in all the way. 536 00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:53,544 I went, "Ah, shit." 537 00:36:53,544 --> 00:36:55,588 And all of the sudden, he comes walking up the beach 538 00:36:55,588 --> 00:36:58,216 and he's holding his butt, you know, he comes up, he goes, 539 00:36:58,257 --> 00:37:00,593 "My board flipped over and I landed on my fin." 540 00:37:00,635 --> 00:37:02,678 [Gerry] Came in the yard, you know, 541 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,972 Fat Paul looked at me, 542 00:37:05,014 --> 00:37:06,557 looked at the cut and goes, 543 00:37:06,557 --> 00:37:08,768 "Oh, you gotta go to the hospital." 544 00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:12,230 I had this Delta, Oldsmobile Delta 88, man, 545 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:13,940 the thing drank more than I did back then. 546 00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:17,235 I could lay rubber from Chun's Reef to Waimea. 547 00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:19,487 [engine revving] 548 00:37:20,446 --> 00:37:22,448 We go to Kahuku Hospital, 549 00:37:22,490 --> 00:37:25,284 then the nurse comes and she cleans it all up 550 00:37:25,284 --> 00:37:27,578 and says, "Doctor will be in here in a minute." 551 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:29,288 And Gerry's looking at me and he goes, 552 00:37:29,330 --> 00:37:30,915 "I got to fart." 553 00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:33,584 And I go, "Go ahead," you know, "Why not?" 554 00:37:33,584 --> 00:37:36,212 And he farts, and blood comes out of the wound. 555 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:38,464 He looked at me and he goes, "What's wrong?" 556 00:37:38,506 --> 00:37:40,800 And I said, "Blood came out of your wound," 557 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,135 which meant he had punctured his intestines. 558 00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:44,929 So the doctor walks in, I tell the doc, 559 00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:46,806 and he goes, "Well, okay, 560 00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:49,183 we'll call up, you know, the next hospital in Honolulu 561 00:37:49,183 --> 00:37:50,977 and, you know, wait for the ambulance." 562 00:37:50,977 --> 00:37:53,771 I go, "Forget the ambulance, I got the Delta 88!" 563 00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:56,315 [engine revving] 564 00:37:57,817 --> 00:37:59,527 [Gerry] The next thing I knew, 565 00:37:59,568 --> 00:38:01,988 it was the next morning, and I woke up, 566 00:38:02,029 --> 00:38:04,282 and then the doctor walked in, and he goes, 567 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:07,368 "Yeah, you're gonna have to wear a colostomy bag." 568 00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:13,291 Surfing came really hard to me. 569 00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:15,001 I put in a lot of time 570 00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:18,629 and a lot of agony and pain and suffering, you know. 571 00:38:18,671 --> 00:38:21,465 For me it was very difficult. 572 00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:23,509 [peaceful guitar music playing] 573 00:38:28,931 --> 00:38:32,101 Growing up, we lived every weekend at the beach. 574 00:38:32,101 --> 00:38:33,602 That's what you did. 575 00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:39,775 My parents were both really good swimmers, 576 00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:45,573 And when we had lessons, it was all three of us. 577 00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:51,662 [man] It was a magic childhood, 578 00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:54,415 growing up in Waikiki. 579 00:38:54,415 --> 00:38:57,293 We'd pack a lunch, they'd just drop us off. 580 00:38:57,335 --> 00:39:00,880 We'd bury our towel and our $2 for the day, 581 00:39:00,921 --> 00:39:04,258 go surf, come in, buy a hotdog. 582 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:07,428 We spent a lot of family time down at the beach. 583 00:39:07,470 --> 00:39:10,806 The surfers were right out there riding the waves, 584 00:39:10,848 --> 00:39:13,100 and we looked at that and we'd go up on the wall there 585 00:39:13,142 --> 00:39:17,938 and watch the guys body-surfing, paipo boarding. 586 00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:19,815 We went down one day. 587 00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:22,818 I was 10, Victor was 8. 588 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:25,988 We got to pick a board out of the rack. 589 00:39:25,988 --> 00:39:28,616 My mom swam out, 590 00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:31,660 and I just remember the first time 591 00:39:31,702 --> 00:39:33,788 she shoved me into a wave. 592 00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:48,052 I was still on my belly, 593 00:39:48,094 --> 00:39:52,098 but I just distinctly remember 594 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:54,350 that feeling of gliding. 595 00:39:55,935 --> 00:39:59,397 It was just like magic. 596 00:40:02,566 --> 00:40:04,652 I got back to my mom, 597 00:40:04,693 --> 00:40:06,237 she goes, "You wanna do that again?" 598 00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:07,822 I go, "Yeah." 599 00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:11,659 She goes, "Okay, this time try to stand up." 600 00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:15,996 When you were standing, the feeling was amplified, 601 00:40:16,038 --> 00:40:17,498 that gliding sensation, 602 00:40:17,498 --> 00:40:20,292 that feeling like you were flying like a bird. 603 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,672 [gulls crying] 604 00:40:27,675 --> 00:40:30,553 Both those first two waves 605 00:40:30,553 --> 00:40:33,722 have stayed with me my whole life. 606 00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:41,480 [man] Did you ever expect that you were going to become a famous surfer? 607 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,233 No, that was just... 608 00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:46,819 There were photographers filming and, you know, 609 00:40:46,819 --> 00:40:48,320 there were surf movies, 610 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,614 and, you know, I was in some of them, and... 611 00:40:50,614 --> 00:40:52,491 [man] Well, you were in all of them. 612 00:40:52,491 --> 00:40:54,952 Well... [laughs] 613 00:41:04,753 --> 00:41:06,755 Where I come from in South Africa, 614 00:41:06,755 --> 00:41:10,718 that was a long way away from the center of surfing. 615 00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:14,555 Our only conduit into surfing was the surf magazines, 616 00:41:14,597 --> 00:41:16,599 and then when the surf films would come to town. 617 00:41:20,936 --> 00:41:24,106 [Gerry] In 1972, Greg MacGillivray, 618 00:41:24,106 --> 00:41:26,734 him and Jim Freeman came out with a move 619 00:41:26,775 --> 00:41:28,068 called "Five Summer Stories." 620 00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:30,112 [rock music playing] 621 00:41:34,533 --> 00:41:38,746 "Five Summer Stories" is the first major quality documentation. 622 00:41:38,746 --> 00:41:43,751 There was other surf movies that were nowhere near as good a quality. 623 00:41:43,751 --> 00:41:47,254 [Shaun] When that surf film came to town, 624 00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:51,342 every single surfer would gather. 625 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:56,388 The electricity in those small auditoriums... 626 00:41:56,388 --> 00:41:58,057 We used to sit there and we used to wait 627 00:41:58,057 --> 00:42:02,144 for that first wave to come on the screen. 628 00:42:02,186 --> 00:42:04,188 Wait and wait and wait. 629 00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:07,650 And the screen would happen and we went, "Wow!" 630 00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:09,610 [rock music playing] 631 00:42:19,161 --> 00:42:22,665 And those moments, man, that I saw up on the screen there, 632 00:42:22,665 --> 00:42:25,834 they just burned into my consciousness, burned. 633 00:42:25,834 --> 00:42:29,421 When I say "burned," talk about not imprinted, 634 00:42:29,463 --> 00:42:32,132 burned into my consciousness. 635 00:42:38,264 --> 00:42:40,015 [Matt] You had the two best 636 00:42:40,015 --> 00:42:42,142 filmmakers working in concert. 637 00:42:42,184 --> 00:42:44,019 They're covering it from multiple angles. 638 00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:46,063 Because it was Gerry and super slow, 639 00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:48,107 you would be sort of hypnotized. 640 00:42:52,778 --> 00:42:54,530 [Sam] Filmed for the first time 641 00:42:54,530 --> 00:42:57,741 at 200 frames per second in super slow motion, 642 00:42:57,741 --> 00:42:59,743 Gerry's surfing in "Five Summer Stories" 643 00:42:59,743 --> 00:43:01,328 was like nothing we'd ever seen before. 644 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,711 [Steve] That film was big in the evolution of the sport of surfing, 645 00:43:08,711 --> 00:43:10,879 and Gerry had a starring role in it, 646 00:43:10,879 --> 00:43:12,590 which made him hugely important. 647 00:43:12,631 --> 00:43:16,552 [Randy] Gerry, all of the sudden, "Five Summer Stories" came out, 648 00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:19,847 and boom, everybody wanted to ride a Lightning Bolt. 649 00:43:19,888 --> 00:43:22,641 [thunder crashes] 650 00:43:22,683 --> 00:43:26,312 [Jack] We started this program of loaning surfboards 651 00:43:26,353 --> 00:43:27,896 to pro surfers. 652 00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:32,234 [Shaun] Us young guys coming over from South Africa, 653 00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:34,820 we just didn't have much money, we couldn't afford boards. 654 00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:37,906 Lightning Bolt gave us as many boards as we needed. 655 00:43:37,948 --> 00:43:41,368 [Matt] All of the sudden, almost everybody in Hawaii 656 00:43:41,410 --> 00:43:43,370 is riding Lightning Bolt surfboards, 657 00:43:43,412 --> 00:43:47,333 and it was a glorious time, visually, 658 00:43:47,374 --> 00:43:49,793 'cause the boards looked so beautiful. 659 00:43:53,172 --> 00:43:54,506 Everyone's on Bolts. 660 00:43:54,548 --> 00:43:57,384 Every poster, every magazine cover 661 00:43:57,384 --> 00:43:59,303 was basically a Lightning Bolt ad. 662 00:43:59,345 --> 00:44:01,221 And there's not even any letters. 663 00:44:01,263 --> 00:44:02,681 It's just the bolt. 664 00:44:05,851 --> 00:44:09,271 [Jack] That's really what launched our program 665 00:44:09,271 --> 00:44:12,566 outside of the Gerry Lopez thing. 666 00:44:12,608 --> 00:44:16,737 We got coverage bigtime from so many different pro surfers, 667 00:44:16,779 --> 00:44:18,781 and just massive sales. 668 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,955 [Randy] Every kid across America 669 00:44:26,955 --> 00:44:28,999 wanted to be Gerry Lopez in a tube, 670 00:44:29,041 --> 00:44:31,377 and if you're gonna do that, what do you need? 671 00:44:31,418 --> 00:44:33,045 You need a Lightning Bolt. 672 00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:35,506 Guys were drawing lightning bolts on their own boards. 673 00:44:35,547 --> 00:44:38,300 [Michael] Having the bolt on your board 674 00:44:38,342 --> 00:44:42,513 was the ultimate badge of authenticity. 675 00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:51,355 [Sam] They had status like no other company had ever had. 676 00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:54,149 They had the whole surfing world behind them. 677 00:44:54,149 --> 00:44:56,819 "Give it to us! Give it to us, Lightning Bolt! 678 00:44:56,819 --> 00:44:59,238 We want that energy, we want the pure source!" 679 00:44:59,279 --> 00:45:01,907 And that was even their motto, "the pure source." 680 00:45:08,414 --> 00:45:10,624 And the irony of this, they're selling a lot of boards, 681 00:45:10,666 --> 00:45:12,751 but they're not really making any money. 682 00:45:12,793 --> 00:45:14,545 [music slows, stops] 683 00:45:14,545 --> 00:45:17,381 Nobody makes a lot of money on surfboards. 684 00:45:17,381 --> 00:45:20,467 The margin is tiny. 685 00:45:20,467 --> 00:45:23,512 I got paid, I think, like $1,500 a month. 686 00:45:25,264 --> 00:45:28,642 In the '70s, that was making a fine living in Hawaii. 687 00:45:28,642 --> 00:45:31,061 We lived in a house right on the beach 688 00:45:31,103 --> 00:45:33,480 and it was 425 bucks a month. 689 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,899 And Gerry got paid well for his work. 690 00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:39,778 Gerry's never been a fancy guy. 691 00:45:39,778 --> 00:45:42,740 He always wanted a truck that worked well 692 00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:45,200 and a place to fix his food. 693 00:45:47,453 --> 00:45:49,580 [Gerry] We paid for our lifestyle. 694 00:45:49,621 --> 00:45:52,124 Paid the rent, we paid for our health insurance, 695 00:45:52,124 --> 00:45:55,544 which was only $18 a month back then. 696 00:45:55,544 --> 00:45:59,339 That was all we expected out of this. 697 00:45:59,381 --> 00:46:01,675 [Sam] You have to realize that at the time 698 00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:03,343 that Lightning Bolt was really becoming 699 00:46:03,343 --> 00:46:06,096 the most recognizable brand in surfing, 700 00:46:06,096 --> 00:46:11,518 they were just coming out of a short but very potent period of anti-commercialism. 701 00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:18,817 And the thing that Lightning Bolt had more than any other company, 702 00:46:18,817 --> 00:46:20,652 they had Gerry Lopez. 703 00:46:20,694 --> 00:46:23,238 They had the ultimate in authenticity. 704 00:46:27,284 --> 00:46:30,329 We had a friend, his name was Duke Boyd. 705 00:46:32,414 --> 00:46:35,209 He had started a company called Hang Ten. 706 00:46:40,172 --> 00:46:43,717 [Steve] Hang Ten clothing was the first commercially mass-produced brand 707 00:46:43,759 --> 00:46:47,137 that actually were accepted by the surfing community. 708 00:46:47,179 --> 00:46:49,431 Duke started coming around the shop, 709 00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:51,266 looking around, and he said, 710 00:46:51,266 --> 00:46:54,561 "You know, you have a really great brand here." 711 00:46:54,561 --> 00:46:57,606 [Steve] So he got Jack and Gerry to agree 712 00:46:57,648 --> 00:47:01,401 to allow him to license the brand. 713 00:47:01,401 --> 00:47:04,738 [Gerry] I didn't really have any specific dreams. 714 00:47:04,738 --> 00:47:06,240 I liked to go surfing 715 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,116 and I didn't like to work that much, 716 00:47:08,116 --> 00:47:10,202 so I thought, why not? 717 00:47:10,244 --> 00:47:14,456 Well, I had the secret thought, maybe it could be another Nike. 718 00:47:15,999 --> 00:47:17,709 [Gerry] Jack had a dream. 719 00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:19,586 He wanted to have a house in Hawaii Kai 720 00:47:19,586 --> 00:47:21,255 on the cliff there. 721 00:47:21,296 --> 00:47:23,090 We were thinking, well, hey, 722 00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:26,468 maybe you're gonna get that house now. 723 00:47:26,468 --> 00:47:29,304 [Shaun] I think Lightning Bolt, for that time, 724 00:47:29,304 --> 00:47:31,765 was one of the greatest brands. 725 00:47:33,433 --> 00:47:35,561 Just the representation of... 726 00:47:35,602 --> 00:47:39,648 power, tube-riding, soul, 727 00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:43,026 and Gerry just riding that hurricane. 728 00:47:43,026 --> 00:47:45,279 [rock music playing] 729 00:47:54,454 --> 00:47:56,665 ♪ Every time I'm drivin' down the road ♪ 730 00:47:56,665 --> 00:48:00,752 ♪ Feels like I'm flyin' through the sky... ♪ 731 00:48:00,752 --> 00:48:03,755 Gerry was the embodiment of Lightning Bolt. 732 00:48:03,755 --> 00:48:06,925 Gerry Lopez was the brand. Gerry Lopez was Lightning Bolt. 733 00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:12,681 There was a period from like 1972 up until the late '70s 734 00:48:12,681 --> 00:48:14,808 where Gerry Lopez was easily 735 00:48:14,808 --> 00:48:17,311 the most famous surfer in the world. 736 00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:28,906 [Randy] He's all over the place in all these movies, 737 00:48:28,947 --> 00:48:30,991 all the magazines are featuring him. 738 00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:34,620 He didn't realize the impact that he was making 739 00:48:34,661 --> 00:48:37,331 as he was making it. 740 00:48:37,372 --> 00:48:40,959 [Jack] He had a very good, strong advertising program, 741 00:48:41,001 --> 00:48:43,128 emphasizing Gerry, 742 00:48:43,128 --> 00:48:45,422 and we really got off to a good start, 743 00:48:45,464 --> 00:48:47,758 licensees all over the world, 744 00:48:47,799 --> 00:48:50,719 and we were prepared for greatness. 745 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,805 Sales got up to quite a high figure. 746 00:48:53,805 --> 00:48:56,558 It got to about 12 million bucks a year, pretty quick. 747 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,187 [Sam] Somehow, from the humble little shop on Kapiolani Boulevard, 748 00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:02,731 Gerry Lopez and Jack Shipley were on the cusp 749 00:49:02,773 --> 00:49:05,484 of the biggest brand in surfing. 750 00:49:07,819 --> 00:49:09,279 They were right on the edge 751 00:49:09,279 --> 00:49:11,114 of that explosion of the surfwear market. 752 00:49:11,156 --> 00:49:13,909 They were perfectly positioned on the takeoff. 753 00:49:18,246 --> 00:49:21,375 [Gerry] Suddenly it wasn't just a sportswear company, 754 00:49:21,375 --> 00:49:25,170 he announced that, "Well, what we have is a licensing company," 755 00:49:25,170 --> 00:49:27,631 and, you know, I didn't know what that was, and I went, 756 00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:28,799 "That's bigger, right?" 757 00:49:28,799 --> 00:49:30,509 And he goes, "Yeah, it's huge." 758 00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:32,511 [jazz orchestra playing] 759 00:49:35,889 --> 00:49:39,101 [Matt] They put "Bolt" on a lot of stuff, 760 00:49:39,142 --> 00:49:41,311 and most of it wasn't very good. 761 00:49:41,353 --> 00:49:44,064 The Lightning Bolt necklace and the bracelet and the surf wax 762 00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:47,275 and the backpacks and the skateboards and the beach towels. 763 00:49:49,486 --> 00:49:52,322 [Gerry] I don't think anyone had ever sold 764 00:49:52,322 --> 00:49:55,367 that much surf shit before. 765 00:50:03,041 --> 00:50:05,419 [Sam] They'd marketed it and licensed it 766 00:50:05,419 --> 00:50:07,295 to anything they could put it on, 767 00:50:07,295 --> 00:50:09,506 but ironically, it was the least pure. 768 00:50:09,548 --> 00:50:12,718 [Matt] Bolt went from being untouchably cool 769 00:50:12,718 --> 00:50:14,219 to kind of not cool 770 00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:16,638 in the space of just two or three years. 771 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,724 They really overcooked it. 772 00:50:18,724 --> 00:50:22,894 Surfers realized, "Hey, they've left us. 773 00:50:22,894 --> 00:50:24,604 They've almost betrayed us." 774 00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:29,818 And Gerry Lopez went from that pure source 775 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:32,821 to being the most commercialized, 776 00:50:32,821 --> 00:50:35,741 marketed surfer in the world. 777 00:50:35,741 --> 00:50:37,909 I think that, though, that is a measure 778 00:50:37,909 --> 00:50:41,038 of his approach to the sport, 779 00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:42,831 that he could survive that 780 00:50:42,831 --> 00:50:45,625 with his reputation intact. 781 00:50:47,419 --> 00:50:49,796 [Matt] I've never understood how he pulled that off, 782 00:50:49,796 --> 00:50:54,259 except to say that he had so much cool in the bank 783 00:50:54,259 --> 00:50:59,014 that he was able to flog some really awful stuff, 784 00:50:59,014 --> 00:51:01,349 but it doesn't stick to Gerry. 785 00:51:03,602 --> 00:51:06,438 [Gerry] I don't know why I did all that stuff, 786 00:51:06,438 --> 00:51:09,274 but I just, I did it because I felt 787 00:51:09,274 --> 00:51:11,485 that that was one of my obligations 788 00:51:11,485 --> 00:51:14,404 to being a part of Lightning Bolt. 789 00:51:18,492 --> 00:51:21,411 He'd poured everything into the Lightning Bolt brand. 790 00:51:21,453 --> 00:51:24,372 It was his first business of his life. 791 00:51:24,414 --> 00:51:26,958 It was a very, very successful thing. 792 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,504 And he was very young and a surfer, 793 00:51:30,504 --> 00:51:32,464 and all of the sudden, 794 00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:35,050 all these things started happening. 795 00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,719 [Gerry] The two principals in Lightning Bolt 796 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,472 was the company called Keepers in California 797 00:51:40,472 --> 00:51:42,099 and Duke Boyd, 798 00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:44,351 and the money started coming in 799 00:51:44,351 --> 00:51:49,106 and they started fighting over how to spend the money. 800 00:51:49,147 --> 00:51:52,776 The whole relationship unraveled from that point forward 801 00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:56,113 and turned into a big legal battle, 802 00:51:56,154 --> 00:52:00,325 and Jack and I, of course, got sucked into that. 803 00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:04,162 Gerry and I picked different sides in the argument. 804 00:52:04,204 --> 00:52:07,916 I was trying to get him to go the way that I went, 805 00:52:07,916 --> 00:52:12,963 and he had to choose between me and Duke, 806 00:52:12,963 --> 00:52:15,715 and he chose Duke, you know, 807 00:52:15,715 --> 00:52:18,927 and I went, "I respect that," you know. 808 00:52:18,927 --> 00:52:21,930 "I love you, but I've got to go this other way." 809 00:52:23,557 --> 00:52:26,351 [Steve] Everyone in that lost. 810 00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:30,272 It was a juggling act that was very delicate and easy to fumble, 811 00:52:30,313 --> 00:52:32,357 and they did, they just did. 812 00:52:40,907 --> 00:52:43,869 The Bolt shop finally closed. 813 00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:46,788 It just sort of dried up 814 00:52:46,788 --> 00:52:48,582 and had its day. 815 00:53:02,387 --> 00:53:04,598 Gerry and I were in a little restaurant, 816 00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,642 a health food restaurant called the Summerhouse, 817 00:53:07,642 --> 00:53:10,061 and in the kitchen was a picture 818 00:53:10,103 --> 00:53:13,315 my partner, Dick Hoole, had taken of Wayne Lynch. 819 00:53:13,315 --> 00:53:15,108 [Gerry] A picture of Wayne Lynch, 820 00:53:15,108 --> 00:53:17,777 who, to me, was one of the greatest Australian surfers. 821 00:53:17,777 --> 00:53:19,571 You know, he was a big hero of mine. 822 00:53:19,613 --> 00:53:22,490 And he's surfing this bitching wave, 823 00:53:22,490 --> 00:53:26,786 I mean, this barreling, you know, really nice wave, 824 00:53:26,828 --> 00:53:29,206 and I went, "Where is this?" 825 00:53:29,247 --> 00:53:32,167 And I go, "It's that place I wanna take you to, 826 00:53:32,209 --> 00:53:34,502 called Uluwatu in Bali." 827 00:53:34,544 --> 00:53:37,881 And I said, "Man, we're going." 828 00:54:03,907 --> 00:54:06,993 The plane lands there, the door opens. 829 00:54:06,993 --> 00:54:09,663 First it's just a rush of things. 830 00:54:09,663 --> 00:54:13,124 It's the heat and the smell. 831 00:54:13,124 --> 00:54:15,669 [Jack M.] It smells like perfume. 832 00:54:15,669 --> 00:54:18,296 And it's actually these clove cigarettes 833 00:54:18,296 --> 00:54:20,382 that all the Balinese people smoke. 834 00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:34,479 Everyone was so happy and uplifting and joyful. 835 00:54:40,735 --> 00:54:44,614 [Gerry] Somehow it was all familiar. 836 00:54:44,614 --> 00:54:47,867 It was like, "Wow, I'm home." 837 00:54:53,748 --> 00:54:57,127 We get taken to this incredible little fishing village, 838 00:54:57,168 --> 00:55:00,797 this little place in Kuta. 839 00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:04,509 There's no tourists, coconut trees everywhere. 840 00:55:04,509 --> 00:55:08,430 It felt familiar. It was comfortable. 841 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,564 [Jack M.] The next day we get up and go to Uluwatu, 842 00:55:17,605 --> 00:55:21,318 and we all knew that it was the end of the Bukit. 843 00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:24,029 It was a peninsula that sticks down 844 00:55:24,029 --> 00:55:25,739 at the bottom of the island of Bali. 845 00:55:28,742 --> 00:55:32,370 So going to Uluwatu was about an hour drive. 846 00:55:45,675 --> 00:55:47,177 [Gerry] Got out there, 847 00:55:47,218 --> 00:55:50,638 and it's just jungle on both sides. 848 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,182 "Is this it?" 849 00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,728 And there was like a little trail. 850 00:55:56,728 --> 00:56:00,899 So we grab our boards and we start going. 851 00:56:03,276 --> 00:56:06,112 The farmers stick cactus in the ground, 852 00:56:06,112 --> 00:56:09,824 which grows, so it's actually like a maze. 853 00:56:11,493 --> 00:56:14,037 And, "now let's go this way." 854 00:56:14,037 --> 00:56:17,582 And the next thing you know, we've been walking for half an hour 855 00:56:17,582 --> 00:56:20,085 and I go, "Jack, where's this going?" 856 00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:27,008 We're an hour on the trail, we don't know where we are. 857 00:56:27,008 --> 00:56:30,470 We don't even know how to get back to where we're going. 858 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:34,182 [Jack M.] We wander off for another 15 minutes or so, 859 00:56:34,182 --> 00:56:35,892 and, ah, like manna from heaven, 860 00:56:35,934 --> 00:56:38,561 these two surfers come walking down the track. 861 00:56:38,603 --> 00:56:42,732 And it turns out to be Mike Boyum and his brother Bill. 862 00:56:42,774 --> 00:56:46,152 They look at us and go, "What are you guys doing?" 863 00:56:46,152 --> 00:56:48,405 "We're lost, what does it look like?" 864 00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:49,781 They go, "Well, follow us." 865 00:56:51,741 --> 00:56:54,119 So we got right down to Uluwatu. 866 00:56:57,288 --> 00:57:00,834 [Jack M.] To get into the surf, you had to walk down the hill 867 00:57:00,834 --> 00:57:02,794 into this ravine 868 00:57:02,836 --> 00:57:04,754 that had a little drop-off 869 00:57:04,796 --> 00:57:07,215 and a little bamboo ladder, 870 00:57:07,215 --> 00:57:09,467 about three big bamboo poles together, 871 00:57:09,467 --> 00:57:12,595 that you have to tightrope your way down with your board 872 00:57:12,637 --> 00:57:16,349 and get into this cave and paddle out. 873 00:57:27,277 --> 00:57:30,071 [Gerry] This is dreamy as surf could be. 874 00:57:30,113 --> 00:57:34,534 And there'd just be lines to the horizon. 875 00:57:41,458 --> 00:57:43,877 There's nobody in the water. 876 00:57:43,918 --> 00:57:46,004 [guitar strumming] 877 00:57:51,009 --> 00:57:55,555 It was the most consistent, perfect, clean, 878 00:57:55,555 --> 00:57:58,600 uncrowded waves that I'd ever seen. 879 00:58:59,911 --> 00:59:02,956 It was just like that all day long. 880 00:59:15,343 --> 00:59:17,595 [Jack M.] Couple of days later, Mike Boyum 881 00:59:17,637 --> 00:59:19,430 invites us over to his house, 882 00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:22,058 which is just across from where we're staying. 883 00:59:25,353 --> 00:59:27,939 He has half a dozen house workers 884 00:59:27,939 --> 00:59:30,149 cleaning the place, cooking food, 885 00:59:30,191 --> 00:59:34,112 doing everything that he needs to make it comfortable. 886 00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:37,782 [Gerry] Mike had been there for a while. 887 00:59:37,782 --> 00:59:41,661 We're all kind of asking, "Who is this guy?" 888 00:59:45,665 --> 00:59:49,002 My brother's name is Michael Boyum. 889 00:59:49,043 --> 00:59:51,379 And he was basically a hoodlum. 890 00:59:54,090 --> 00:59:57,969 [Jack M.] We'd heard he had done some sort of smuggling 891 00:59:58,011 --> 00:59:59,470 and that he was on the run. 892 01:00:02,807 --> 01:00:06,644 The story came out that Bill came out to Bali 893 01:00:06,644 --> 01:00:09,856 and found him and kind of slapped some sense into him, went, 894 01:00:09,897 --> 01:00:12,609 "Are you kidding? Look at how good these waves are." 895 01:00:12,609 --> 01:00:14,444 [Bill] By the time I showed up, 896 01:00:14,444 --> 01:00:18,197 Mike just wanted to drop solidly into surfing 897 01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:22,702 and drop the debauchery, get into really good shape. 898 01:00:22,744 --> 01:00:26,706 [Jack M.] Mike, man, to have Gerry Lopez at his dinner table, 899 01:00:26,748 --> 01:00:28,458 first thing he said was, 900 01:00:28,499 --> 01:00:32,003 "When you come back next time, bring me eight surfboards." 901 01:00:49,896 --> 01:00:54,567 [Gerry] We were surfing, to me, a beautiful day at Uluwatu. 902 01:00:57,403 --> 01:01:00,823 Bill looks at him and goes, "You know, this isn't even a surf spot." 903 01:01:00,865 --> 01:01:04,243 And I look at him, I wanna throw him off the cliff. 904 01:01:04,243 --> 01:01:06,204 You know, what are you talking about? 905 01:01:06,204 --> 01:01:09,123 And he goes, "Right over there, 906 01:01:09,123 --> 01:01:11,918 that's the southeastern tip of Java, 907 01:01:11,959 --> 01:01:14,879 and there's a wave over there that I've been to 908 01:01:14,879 --> 01:01:17,298 that's so much better than this. 909 01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:20,593 If you see it, you're gonna say 'this isn't a surf spot.'" 910 01:01:20,593 --> 01:01:23,680 And I'm looking at him like he's nuts. 911 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,183 [Jack M.] This place, which is just across the strait, 912 01:01:27,225 --> 01:01:30,061 was called Grajagan. 913 01:01:30,061 --> 01:01:34,357 But to have a little code word, they called it "G-Land." 914 01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:50,498 [Gerry] It's 60 miles from Kuta Beach 915 01:01:50,498 --> 01:01:52,667 to the southern tip of java. 916 01:01:52,667 --> 01:01:56,421 Mike built a boat that would be a fast ride 917 01:01:56,462 --> 01:01:58,256 from Bali to G-Land. 918 01:01:58,297 --> 01:02:01,843 We put a bunch of food and surfboards in the boat, 919 01:02:01,884 --> 01:02:04,303 blazed over there. 920 01:02:13,438 --> 01:02:16,357 [Bill] Going there on the boat, that was problematic, you know. 921 01:02:16,399 --> 01:02:19,193 Anchor lines would break, things would go wrong. 922 01:02:19,235 --> 01:02:21,654 [Gerry] Campaigning G-Land from a boat 923 01:02:21,654 --> 01:02:23,656 was not the way to do it, 924 01:02:23,656 --> 01:02:27,201 because we had no frame of reference. 925 01:02:27,201 --> 01:02:30,413 Coming from a boat, it alters your perception 926 01:02:30,413 --> 01:02:34,584 of how you approach that wave and how you surf that wave. 927 01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:39,088 You have to see the wall of the wave from the beach 928 01:02:39,088 --> 01:02:43,718 to really get a feel for what that wave is doing. 929 01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:47,722 So I said, "Mike, we gotta get on the beach, man." 930 01:02:47,764 --> 01:02:51,726 Problem was you couldn't go on the beach at G-Land 931 01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:53,436 unless you had a permit. 932 01:02:53,436 --> 01:02:55,772 [Bill] It was a national park. 933 01:02:56,856 --> 01:02:58,024 Up till then, 934 01:02:58,065 --> 01:02:59,692 people had been going there, 935 01:02:59,734 --> 01:03:01,611 European hunters, 936 01:03:01,611 --> 01:03:03,654 to get big game. 937 01:03:03,654 --> 01:03:06,574 [Gerry] Sumatran tigers were there, you know. 938 01:03:06,616 --> 01:03:08,409 There was actually two of them 939 01:03:08,451 --> 01:03:10,912 that lived in this jungle preserve. 940 01:03:10,953 --> 01:03:14,165 [Jack M.] So Mike decided he's going to go 941 01:03:14,207 --> 01:03:17,251 to Indonesia to get permits. 942 01:03:19,837 --> 01:03:21,839 I remember hearing him say, 943 01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:24,884 "Oh, yeah, I was in Jakarta and I had to go see the general, 944 01:03:24,926 --> 01:03:28,471 and I got to get his kid a surfboard." 945 01:03:28,471 --> 01:03:30,765 [Bill] He was really good at dealing 946 01:03:30,765 --> 01:03:32,433 with Indonesian red tape. 947 01:03:32,475 --> 01:03:33,893 It was a trick, you know, 948 01:03:33,893 --> 01:03:35,978 so shake hands with the guy, 949 01:03:35,978 --> 01:03:39,190 and he'd slide the Rolex right off his wrist, 950 01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:41,359 and it was a beautiful move, 951 01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:43,986 but he had this kind of air about him 952 01:03:43,986 --> 01:03:45,446 without being too blatant. 953 01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:49,951 And he got the permits for it, 954 01:03:49,992 --> 01:03:53,079 permit to build all these bamboo structures 955 01:03:53,079 --> 01:03:55,540 on the edge of a national park. 956 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,880 [Jack M.] There was nothing there. 957 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,257 Nothing. 958 01:04:04,257 --> 01:04:07,093 And they had to bring everything. 959 01:04:09,971 --> 01:04:13,307 I was one of the first people to film there. 960 01:04:15,226 --> 01:04:16,811 In order to get out there, 961 01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:18,813 you spend three hours 962 01:04:18,813 --> 01:04:21,190 paddling across this big, beautiful bay, 963 01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:23,985 and you come into this little crack 964 01:04:23,985 --> 01:04:25,987 at the end of the reef. 965 01:04:29,532 --> 01:04:32,785 [Gerry] As we got to where Mike had built the treehouse, 966 01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:35,997 I looked out and went, "Oh, my God!" 967 01:04:36,038 --> 01:04:38,082 [rock music playing] 968 01:04:42,128 --> 01:04:45,506 [Jack M.] This wave didn't stop. 969 01:04:45,506 --> 01:04:49,135 As a kid, we used to dream of this sort of thing, 970 01:04:49,176 --> 01:04:50,845 and here it was in front of you. 971 01:05:28,466 --> 01:05:31,636 I found the best waves of my life. 972 01:06:49,630 --> 01:06:51,966 Life in the camp was great. 973 01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:57,805 [Jack M.] There were only allowed 974 01:06:57,847 --> 01:07:01,434 six to ten people in the camp at one time, 975 01:07:01,434 --> 01:07:02,893 so it was very intimate. 976 01:07:05,938 --> 01:07:07,732 [Gerry] There wasn't a lot to do, 977 01:07:07,773 --> 01:07:11,652 but I don't think anybody ever got bored. 978 01:07:18,075 --> 01:07:20,077 [Jack M.] Everything that you wanted, 979 01:07:20,077 --> 01:07:21,704 Mike had prepared for. 980 01:07:26,250 --> 01:07:30,629 He'd bring in these big Igloos full of food. 981 01:07:30,671 --> 01:07:33,340 Half a dozen of these Igloos, and you'd open one up 982 01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:35,176 and there'd be this giant tuna, 983 01:07:35,176 --> 01:07:37,928 this fresh tuna that had been there sitting on ice. 984 01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:40,431 [Gerry] Mike had the camp workers 985 01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:43,142 that did all the cooking and kept the camp clean. 986 01:07:43,142 --> 01:07:46,270 -[man] And they got paid for it? -[Gerry] Yeah. That was their job. 987 01:07:46,270 --> 01:07:49,523 He has his food trip down. 988 01:07:49,565 --> 01:07:53,694 [Gerry] He had a very strict diet 989 01:07:53,694 --> 01:07:57,656 that was based off a Zen macrobiotic diet. 990 01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:02,536 Because it was the food trip that was together 991 01:08:02,578 --> 01:08:05,498 that allowed us to sustain our bodies 992 01:08:05,498 --> 01:08:08,292 to keep us fit and healthy. 993 01:08:11,045 --> 01:08:14,673 You know, malaria was a big fear. 994 01:08:14,673 --> 01:08:16,801 [Bill] We tried the malaria pills, 995 01:08:16,801 --> 01:08:21,806 but they reduced your ability to be in the sun. 996 01:08:21,847 --> 01:08:23,766 We stopped doing that 997 01:08:23,766 --> 01:08:27,311 and we just did prophylactic type things, you know, 998 01:08:27,353 --> 01:08:29,063 covering up our ankles, wearing socks, 999 01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:32,566 and then getting under our nets in the evening. 1000 01:08:32,566 --> 01:08:36,654 And being under the net also required 1001 01:08:36,654 --> 01:08:38,614 that you didn't bring anything soft 1002 01:08:38,614 --> 01:08:39,865 that the rats might like, 1003 01:08:39,865 --> 01:08:42,618 like wax, surf wax. 1004 01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:46,455 The rats would come in, eat a hole in your net, 1005 01:08:46,497 --> 01:08:49,750 and then at 2 a.m. the anopheles mosquito 1006 01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:52,169 would come in, bam, malaria. 1007 01:08:52,211 --> 01:08:55,297 [Gerry] You couldn't afford to get hurt. 1008 01:08:55,339 --> 01:09:00,344 The entire reason we were there was to surf that wave. 1009 01:09:00,344 --> 01:09:03,514 It was a surfing monastic existence. 1010 01:09:06,559 --> 01:09:09,603 It was like we were monks. 1011 01:09:09,603 --> 01:09:12,857 And this was our all-day meditation. 1012 01:09:12,898 --> 01:09:14,859 [intense music playing] 1013 01:09:51,437 --> 01:09:54,481 [Bill] There were nights when we'd sit on this bamboo 1014 01:09:54,481 --> 01:09:57,234 and the offshore breeze would just blow through, 1015 01:09:57,234 --> 01:09:59,945 keeping the mosquitoes off, 1016 01:09:59,945 --> 01:10:04,867 and just this thunderous cannonade coming down the coast 1017 01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:07,161 of really powerful waves 1018 01:10:07,161 --> 01:10:08,829 and we'd just soak it in. 1019 01:10:08,829 --> 01:10:11,123 I mean, it's just, it's like being 1020 01:10:11,165 --> 01:10:13,959 right in front of the pyramids or something. 1021 01:10:26,263 --> 01:10:30,643 [Gerry] There was one trip where we were coming to the end of it, 1022 01:10:30,643 --> 01:10:33,979 and Mike said, "All right, well, we're going back," 1023 01:10:33,979 --> 01:10:37,733 and I said, "Mike, I don't wanna go back. 1024 01:10:37,733 --> 01:10:39,318 I wanna stay." 1025 01:10:45,532 --> 01:10:48,744 So everybody all left, and I stayed. 1026 01:10:54,041 --> 01:10:56,919 I remember waking up the first morning, 1027 01:10:56,919 --> 01:10:58,921 looking around, 1028 01:10:58,921 --> 01:11:02,049 all the other beds are empty, I'm going, 1029 01:11:02,049 --> 01:11:04,760 "Wow, I'm here all alone. 1030 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,471 Oh, this is kind of cool. 1031 01:11:07,471 --> 01:11:09,139 I feel like Robinson Crusoe." 1032 01:11:16,772 --> 01:11:19,858 Being in there all alone, 1033 01:11:19,900 --> 01:11:23,862 especially after the whole Lightning Bolt thing, 1034 01:11:23,862 --> 01:11:27,157 really had a profound effect on me. 1035 01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:31,578 We live in a world where 1036 01:11:31,578 --> 01:11:35,040 there's constant, incessant distractions. 1037 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,584 Losing focus is easy. 1038 01:11:40,462 --> 01:11:42,131 A large part of attention 1039 01:11:42,172 --> 01:11:45,092 is being able to be in the moment, 1040 01:11:45,092 --> 01:11:47,720 right here, right now. 1041 01:12:07,698 --> 01:12:10,242 The solitude of that place, 1042 01:12:10,242 --> 01:12:14,955 it was a real cosmic sanctuary or something. 1043 01:12:17,124 --> 01:12:20,461 It was like the temple. It was the temple of surf. 1044 01:12:29,428 --> 01:12:32,473 I was forming this very special, 1045 01:12:32,473 --> 01:12:35,100 very personal relationship with this surf spot, 1046 01:12:35,142 --> 01:12:37,019 with this wave. 1047 01:12:38,937 --> 01:12:42,566 Getting to it on a cliché-ish 1048 01:12:42,608 --> 01:12:45,110 but a spiritual level. 1049 01:13:09,635 --> 01:13:13,514 It was the beginning of me and G-Land 1050 01:13:13,555 --> 01:13:14,848 really... 1051 01:13:17,142 --> 01:13:18,977 becoming one. 1052 01:13:47,548 --> 01:13:50,801 So after that trip to the camp, I went back to Bali, 1053 01:13:50,801 --> 01:13:54,346 and one day I saw a guy fishing with a throw net, 1054 01:13:54,346 --> 01:13:57,766 and I asked him if I could try it, 1055 01:13:57,808 --> 01:14:03,147 'cause my dad was an expert throw-net fisherman in Hawaii. 1056 01:14:07,276 --> 01:14:09,862 My dad came from New York. 1057 01:14:09,862 --> 01:14:13,782 His dad Cuban, his mom German. 1058 01:14:15,367 --> 01:14:17,911 Think it was the late '30s, 1059 01:14:17,911 --> 01:14:20,622 my dad joined the army and on the GI Bill 1060 01:14:20,622 --> 01:14:22,583 decided he was going to go to school 1061 01:14:22,583 --> 01:14:24,418 at the University of Hawaii. 1062 01:14:24,418 --> 01:14:27,463 Caught a boat out of New York, through the Panama Canal, 1063 01:14:27,504 --> 01:14:29,548 then over to Hawaii. 1064 01:14:31,091 --> 01:14:33,302 My mother is local Japanese, 1065 01:14:33,302 --> 01:14:35,095 Hawaiian Japanese. 1066 01:14:35,137 --> 01:14:38,182 Her grandparents came from Japan 1067 01:14:38,182 --> 01:14:40,184 to work in the plantation. 1068 01:14:40,225 --> 01:14:42,853 They all worked on the plantation, her mom and dad. 1069 01:14:42,895 --> 01:14:46,356 [Lola] Japanese woman did not go on past... 1070 01:14:46,398 --> 01:14:48,817 I mean, the high school was a big deal. 1071 01:14:48,817 --> 01:14:50,903 And my mother was going to college. 1072 01:14:50,903 --> 01:14:53,655 [Gerry] My dad met my mom at the U-H. 1073 01:14:53,655 --> 01:14:55,324 They fell in love, they got married. 1074 01:14:56,783 --> 01:14:59,912 She was traditional Japanese family. 1075 01:14:59,912 --> 01:15:04,833 It was expected that she was gonna marry a Japanese man. 1076 01:15:04,833 --> 01:15:08,921 [Lola] My mother was very strong and very smart, 1077 01:15:08,921 --> 01:15:13,592 and my father was a Haole man, if you will. 1078 01:15:13,592 --> 01:15:16,345 A lot of the GIs that were there 1079 01:15:16,345 --> 01:15:18,597 would promise these women things 1080 01:15:18,639 --> 01:15:21,558 and produce children and then they left. 1081 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,646 And my grandpa thought that's what would happen to my mother. 1082 01:15:25,687 --> 01:15:28,815 But my father got to Hawaii and he said, 1083 01:15:28,857 --> 01:15:31,026 "I'm never leaving." 1084 01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:37,449 [Victor] You know, our dad was such a special person. 1085 01:15:37,449 --> 01:15:39,076 He came to Hawaii, 1086 01:15:39,117 --> 01:15:42,079 and he didn't try to change his environment, 1087 01:15:42,079 --> 01:15:44,456 he assimilated into the Hawaiian culture. 1088 01:15:46,208 --> 01:15:48,210 The way he did it was so cool, 1089 01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:50,170 'cause he met our mom, got married, 1090 01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:53,549 he learned how to throw a net from our uncle. 1091 01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:57,135 He gravitated towards this throw-net fishing, 1092 01:15:57,135 --> 01:16:00,180 with my Uncle Kodama, and got really good at it. 1093 01:16:04,893 --> 01:16:08,355 He was just like this ninja in the water. 1094 01:16:08,355 --> 01:16:10,357 And I remember watching him, you know, 1095 01:16:10,357 --> 01:16:11,900 and he'd just be still there, 1096 01:16:11,942 --> 01:16:14,528 and I knew he saw some fish, 1097 01:16:14,528 --> 01:16:16,196 and he was waiting for them 1098 01:16:16,196 --> 01:16:18,657 to come within range of his throw net. 1099 01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:23,704 Whoo, whoosh! 1100 01:16:23,704 --> 01:16:27,082 And he'd spread that thing in a perfect circle every time. 1101 01:16:27,082 --> 01:16:30,043 I distinctly remember that movement 1102 01:16:30,043 --> 01:16:32,546 of him throwing the net. 1103 01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:41,597 Other throw-net fishermen, local guys, they go, 1104 01:16:41,638 --> 01:16:43,432 "Yeah, your father's considered to be 1105 01:16:43,432 --> 01:16:45,809 one of the top throw-net fishermen in Hawaii." 1106 01:16:49,187 --> 01:16:51,898 You know, here's my dad, he's a Haole, 1107 01:16:51,898 --> 01:16:53,275 he's from New York. 1108 01:16:53,317 --> 01:16:54,860 It was really an art. 1109 01:16:54,860 --> 01:16:57,321 I mean, it was beautiful to watch. 1110 01:17:14,713 --> 01:17:17,049 [telephone rings] 1111 01:17:17,049 --> 01:17:19,509 [Gerry] I got a phone call in Maui one day, 1112 01:17:19,551 --> 01:17:22,095 and I got up, you know, and went over and, "Hello," 1113 01:17:22,095 --> 01:17:25,349 and said, "Will you please hold for John Milius?" 1114 01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:26,975 Who's John Milius? 1115 01:17:27,017 --> 01:17:28,644 John comes on the phone. 1116 01:17:28,644 --> 01:17:30,228 [gruff voice] "Hello, Gerry, this is John. 1117 01:17:30,228 --> 01:17:33,065 You don't know me but I know all about you, 1118 01:17:33,065 --> 01:17:34,775 and I'm doing a film project 1119 01:17:34,775 --> 01:17:37,027 and I want you to be a part of it." 1120 01:17:37,069 --> 01:17:39,946 And, oh, shit, this is Hollywood calling, man. 1121 01:17:39,988 --> 01:17:42,032 [energetic music playing] 1122 01:18:00,092 --> 01:18:02,386 [Sam] John Milius is part of that new breed of filmmakers 1123 01:18:02,427 --> 01:18:06,014 that included Steven Spielberg and Francis Ford Coppola 1124 01:18:06,056 --> 01:18:07,599 and George Lucas. 1125 01:18:07,641 --> 01:18:10,143 He wrote "Apocalypse Now." 1126 01:18:10,185 --> 01:18:12,479 He wrote "Jeremiah Johnson." 1127 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,606 The difference was that John Milius was a surfer. 1128 01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:21,988 He had some renown by the mid-'70s, 1129 01:18:21,988 --> 01:18:25,283 and he realized, "you know what, I've got a few chips here, I better play 'em. 1130 01:18:25,283 --> 01:18:27,494 I wanna make a movie about my youth as a surfer." 1131 01:18:29,621 --> 01:18:32,374 [director] Marker. Let's get that one shot. 1132 01:18:32,416 --> 01:18:34,418 Get on his feet, get on his feet. 1133 01:18:34,459 --> 01:18:35,919 Beautiful! On his feet. 1134 01:18:35,961 --> 01:18:38,422 "Big Wednesday" is the biggest surf 1135 01:18:38,422 --> 01:18:41,633 that comes in 20 years, and... 1136 01:18:41,675 --> 01:18:43,468 Greg, this isn't gonna make it. 1137 01:18:43,468 --> 01:18:44,970 -[Greg] Sure, it will. -No. 1138 01:18:44,970 --> 01:18:46,638 Got all this water moving out there 1139 01:18:46,638 --> 01:18:49,599 and it's trying to hurt you. 1140 01:18:49,641 --> 01:18:52,394 You could very easily drown. 1141 01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,562 You could drown. 1142 01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:56,148 [clears throat] 1143 01:18:56,148 --> 01:18:58,233 This is dumb, Greg. 1144 01:18:58,233 --> 01:18:59,526 [Greg, laughing] Just relax. 1145 01:18:59,526 --> 01:19:03,321 Hey, hey, that's Lopez. 1146 01:19:03,363 --> 01:19:04,990 Yeah, let's go. 1147 01:19:04,990 --> 01:19:08,994 [bluesy music playing] 1148 01:19:08,994 --> 01:19:11,163 [Gerry] So during the making of "Big Wednesday," 1149 01:19:11,204 --> 01:19:13,707 I got to hang out in Hollywood, 1150 01:19:13,707 --> 01:19:15,667 experiencing that lifestyle 1151 01:19:15,667 --> 01:19:18,044 which I thought was great at first 1152 01:19:18,044 --> 01:19:20,756 but eventually I realized wasn't so great. 1153 01:19:23,133 --> 01:19:25,177 Nighttime came around, there was drugs, 1154 01:19:25,177 --> 01:19:27,345 there was a lot of drinking. 1155 01:19:27,345 --> 01:19:30,223 I guess I was 28, 29 years old. 1156 01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:35,437 Old enough to know better, but still dumb enough to do it. 1157 01:19:38,732 --> 01:19:41,985 I remember waking up one afternoon, 1158 01:19:41,985 --> 01:19:45,447 and I looked down and there was just this beautiful south swell. 1159 01:19:45,447 --> 01:19:47,824 You could see the lines out to the horizon, 1160 01:19:47,824 --> 01:19:50,410 but by then the south wind had already come in 1161 01:19:50,410 --> 01:19:52,287 and blown it out, and I went, 1162 01:19:52,329 --> 01:19:56,082 "That's it, man, I'm never gonna drink again. 1163 01:19:56,082 --> 01:20:00,170 I don't wanna ever miss a morning 1164 01:20:00,170 --> 01:20:03,173 because I'm too hungover to get up." 1165 01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:05,675 And I never drank 1166 01:20:05,675 --> 01:20:09,179 or, you know, took those kind of drugs ever again. 1167 01:20:09,221 --> 01:20:13,517 "Big Wednesday" was the beginning 1168 01:20:13,517 --> 01:20:17,521 of actually a very long and great friendship with John. 1169 01:20:17,521 --> 01:20:21,608 He was working on this project in 1980, 1170 01:20:21,608 --> 01:20:24,402 and John wrote in a part for me. 1171 01:20:24,444 --> 01:20:26,238 I got the script and I read it, I'm like, 1172 01:20:26,238 --> 01:20:29,574 "Holy crap, are you kidding? This is like a big role. 1173 01:20:29,574 --> 01:20:31,159 I don't know how to act." 1174 01:20:31,159 --> 01:20:33,411 He goes, "Don't worry about it. You'll be fine." 1175 01:20:33,453 --> 01:20:35,622 Who are you? 1176 01:20:37,958 --> 01:20:39,876 I am Subotai, 1177 01:20:39,876 --> 01:20:42,879 thief and archer. 1178 01:20:42,879 --> 01:20:44,214 I am Hyrkanian. 1179 01:20:44,256 --> 01:20:46,091 So, what are you doing here? 1180 01:20:46,132 --> 01:20:48,051 [chains rattle] 1181 01:20:48,051 --> 01:20:49,636 Dinner for wolves. 1182 01:20:49,636 --> 01:20:51,346 [Schwarzenegger chuckles] 1183 01:20:51,388 --> 01:20:54,432 [Gerry] To have a second lead in a movie like that, 1184 01:20:54,474 --> 01:20:56,393 you really get pampered. 1185 01:20:56,393 --> 01:20:58,728 When John said, "I have a new project, 1186 01:20:58,728 --> 01:21:00,689 it's called 'Farewell to the King,'" 1187 01:21:00,689 --> 01:21:02,524 I had already read the book. 1188 01:21:02,524 --> 01:21:04,776 I said, "I'm in. What do you want me to do?" 1189 01:21:04,818 --> 01:21:08,113 He goes, "I got this great character called Gwai." 1190 01:21:10,615 --> 01:21:16,371 The mountain people, we come in peace. 1191 01:21:19,374 --> 01:21:22,210 I have this haircut and all these tattoos and stuff. 1192 01:21:22,210 --> 01:21:25,171 So that was really fun doing that role. 1193 01:21:25,171 --> 01:21:27,048 I got back to Hollywood 1194 01:21:27,090 --> 01:21:30,468 and got a call from this agent, 1195 01:21:30,468 --> 01:21:32,470 and she goes, "Well, you're an actor now. 1196 01:21:32,512 --> 01:21:35,515 I can represent you," and I go, "Well, I live in Maui." 1197 01:21:35,557 --> 01:21:38,518 She goes, "Yeah, that's not gonna work. You have to be here. 1198 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,980 There's readings you have to go to, casting calls, stuff like that. 1199 01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:43,481 You have to be here." 1200 01:21:43,481 --> 01:21:46,693 And I went, "You know what, I like Maui. 1201 01:21:46,693 --> 01:21:48,570 I don't wanna be an actor." 1202 01:21:48,612 --> 01:21:50,614 [Hawaiian guitar music playing] 1203 01:21:55,285 --> 01:21:58,246 It was right after the release of the Conan movie 1204 01:21:58,246 --> 01:22:00,415 that I met Toni, 1205 01:22:00,415 --> 01:22:03,001 when she became interested in wind surfing, 1206 01:22:03,001 --> 01:22:05,003 about the same time that I did. 1207 01:22:07,213 --> 01:22:09,507 Toni and I, we fit together. 1208 01:22:09,507 --> 01:22:12,177 You know, we just complemented each other. 1209 01:22:12,218 --> 01:22:14,387 We were the yin and yang, 1210 01:22:14,387 --> 01:22:19,517 and together we found the Tao, that harmony that exists 1211 01:22:19,517 --> 01:22:21,853 in the center of everything in life. 1212 01:22:21,895 --> 01:22:25,023 [Toni] I had dated a surfer before that, 1213 01:22:25,023 --> 01:22:28,568 and I thought, "Oh, I don't ever want to date a surfer again. 1214 01:22:28,610 --> 01:22:33,531 With a surfer, you're never the number-one love." 1215 01:22:33,531 --> 01:22:36,660 Here is Gerry, the ultimate surfer. 1216 01:22:38,495 --> 01:22:40,330 [Gerry] I remember when Toni and I 1217 01:22:40,330 --> 01:22:43,124 were heading to Hana to get married, 1218 01:22:43,124 --> 01:22:45,043 the waves were good. 1219 01:22:47,087 --> 01:22:49,005 She knew what I was thinking. 1220 01:22:49,005 --> 01:22:50,882 She's got a good eye for waves. 1221 01:22:50,882 --> 01:22:53,718 We were driving there and she's going, 1222 01:22:53,718 --> 01:22:57,013 "Well, which one are you choosing?" 1223 01:22:58,348 --> 01:22:59,975 "All right. 1224 01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:02,602 I guess I'm gonna have to let the waves go today." 1225 01:23:06,523 --> 01:23:09,734 Surrender is a huge part of life. 1226 01:23:09,776 --> 01:23:11,444 When I surrendered to Toni, 1227 01:23:11,444 --> 01:23:13,947 which has been a long process, by the way, 1228 01:23:13,947 --> 01:23:16,074 when I surrendered to the fact 1229 01:23:16,116 --> 01:23:18,451 that her judgment is better than mine, 1230 01:23:18,493 --> 01:23:20,829 her eyesight's better than mine, 1231 01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:22,706 her hearing is much better than mine, 1232 01:23:22,706 --> 01:23:23,999 and her smell, everything, 1233 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,543 life really got better. 1234 01:23:33,508 --> 01:23:35,635 I never thought that 1235 01:23:35,635 --> 01:23:38,471 I wanted to be a father. 1236 01:23:38,471 --> 01:23:41,141 Toni showed me the way, 1237 01:23:43,810 --> 01:23:47,105 and it's been probably the most 1238 01:23:47,105 --> 01:23:49,357 wonderful, complete thing 1239 01:23:49,357 --> 01:23:52,152 that life can give you. 1240 01:23:56,322 --> 01:23:59,325 When Alex was three years old, 1241 01:23:59,325 --> 01:24:01,578 Toni and I, with some other friends, 1242 01:24:01,578 --> 01:24:04,080 took a trip and spent a couple of days 1243 01:24:04,122 --> 01:24:06,249 up in Bend, Oregon. 1244 01:24:06,249 --> 01:24:09,085 [Toni] It was just like going back in time there. 1245 01:24:09,085 --> 01:24:10,962 It was such a quaint little town, 1246 01:24:10,962 --> 01:24:12,422 and it was nice 1247 01:24:12,422 --> 01:24:14,966 'cause nobody knew Gerry there. 1248 01:24:17,135 --> 01:24:20,638 [Gerry] We liked it, and we came back that winter 1249 01:24:20,638 --> 01:24:23,558 because we were all jazzed on snowboarding, 1250 01:24:23,558 --> 01:24:25,810 the early, beginning stages of it, 1251 01:24:25,852 --> 01:24:28,605 and we were there three days on that second trip 1252 01:24:28,605 --> 01:24:29,981 and we bought a house. 1253 01:24:30,023 --> 01:24:32,567 [Toni] I don't think we ever just sat down 1254 01:24:32,567 --> 01:24:34,819 and had a discussion, "and this is what we're gonna do." 1255 01:24:34,861 --> 01:24:37,363 We'd sort of fly by the seat of our pants a little bit. 1256 01:24:37,363 --> 01:24:40,492 "Oh, well, let's go try it and see what happens." 1257 01:24:40,492 --> 01:24:43,203 [Gerry] Just like that, Bend became 1258 01:24:43,244 --> 01:24:45,163 a really integral part of our lives. 1259 01:24:47,999 --> 01:24:52,962 The whole move to the mountain was part of my path of life. 1260 01:24:54,798 --> 01:24:57,050 The ocean's always moving. 1261 01:24:57,092 --> 01:25:01,679 The ocean is considered very yin in nature. 1262 01:25:04,557 --> 01:25:08,019 The mountains are the yang side. 1263 01:25:08,019 --> 01:25:10,480 But that's where the stillness is. 1264 01:25:15,819 --> 01:25:17,737 What I found at Mount Bachelor 1265 01:25:17,737 --> 01:25:20,073 was all these frozen waves 1266 01:25:20,073 --> 01:25:22,742 that the wind had created out of the snow. 1267 01:25:35,255 --> 01:25:37,799 A lot of people have asked me, 1268 01:25:37,799 --> 01:25:41,052 "Wasn't it difficult to leave Maui to move to Bend?" 1269 01:25:41,052 --> 01:25:45,390 And the honest answer is, "It wasn't." 1270 01:25:47,976 --> 01:25:51,271 Anyway, it wasn't like I had stopped surfing. 1271 01:25:52,939 --> 01:25:55,567 I was traveling to different parts of the world, 1272 01:25:55,608 --> 01:25:58,570 surfing, you know, surf contests mostly, at that point. 1273 01:25:58,611 --> 01:26:00,280 The first few years that we lived there, 1274 01:26:00,321 --> 01:26:02,949 Gerry went on a lot of different surf trips. 1275 01:26:02,949 --> 01:26:06,286 I remember him being gone a lot when I was young. 1276 01:26:06,286 --> 01:26:08,913 I mean, I would miss him 'cause he was going to places 1277 01:26:08,955 --> 01:26:10,790 that I'd never heard of. 1278 01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:14,127 [Toni] Still go back to Indonesia 1279 01:26:14,127 --> 01:26:16,504 and he'd always end up on the North Shore 1280 01:26:16,504 --> 01:26:18,298 at some point in the winter. 1281 01:26:18,298 --> 01:26:20,758 So he wasn't just a stay-at-home dad 1282 01:26:20,758 --> 01:26:23,428 or he wasn't just milling around the house all the time. 1283 01:26:25,555 --> 01:26:28,933 Being a surfer has got to be the most selfish thing 1284 01:26:28,933 --> 01:26:30,643 there is in the whole world. 1285 01:26:33,438 --> 01:26:35,398 What about the relationship? 1286 01:26:35,398 --> 01:26:37,066 What about the family? 1287 01:26:37,066 --> 01:26:39,986 What about the job? What about everything else? 1288 01:26:39,986 --> 01:26:42,697 Well, yeah, but the waves are good. 1289 01:26:42,739 --> 01:26:47,619 That's selfish, you know. That's thinking about yourself. 1290 01:26:50,788 --> 01:26:52,540 But unlike surfing, 1291 01:26:52,540 --> 01:26:54,417 in which my obsession with waves 1292 01:26:54,417 --> 01:26:58,504 wasn't really anything I could share with Toni or Alex, 1293 01:26:58,504 --> 01:27:00,590 snowboarding was something, 1294 01:27:00,590 --> 01:27:03,134 as Alex became adept at it, 1295 01:27:03,134 --> 01:27:04,844 we enjoyed as a family. 1296 01:27:17,273 --> 01:27:20,401 I never pressured Alex to surf. 1297 01:27:20,401 --> 01:27:24,364 I always felt it was something that had to happen on its own 1298 01:27:24,364 --> 01:27:27,951 and on his own terms. 1299 01:27:27,992 --> 01:27:30,787 [Toni] When Alex was growing up back in Maui, 1300 01:27:30,787 --> 01:27:33,164 all the comments when we're down at the beach is like, 1301 01:27:33,164 --> 01:27:37,001 "Oh, you gonna be a big wave surfer like your dad?" 1302 01:27:37,001 --> 01:27:38,628 And we'd just kind of cringe 1303 01:27:38,628 --> 01:27:40,380 every time somebody would say that and think, 1304 01:27:40,380 --> 01:27:42,882 "well, I want him to figure out what he wants to do." 1305 01:27:42,924 --> 01:27:44,926 He may not ever want to surf. 1306 01:27:44,926 --> 01:27:47,095 [Alex] Surfing is the hardest thing 1307 01:27:47,136 --> 01:27:49,097 I think you could learn how to do. 1308 01:27:50,431 --> 01:27:53,643 [Gerry] Eventually, Alex started to like surfing 1309 01:27:53,643 --> 01:27:56,020 and surfing did its thing on him. 1310 01:27:56,020 --> 01:27:58,356 And we got to enjoy it together. 1311 01:28:02,193 --> 01:28:05,863 I loved the days that I'd get to share with my dad 1312 01:28:05,905 --> 01:28:07,657 in the ocean. 1313 01:28:07,657 --> 01:28:10,910 The closest we ever get is when we're in the water. 1314 01:28:16,499 --> 01:28:19,544 You know, I've come to realize that... 1315 01:28:19,544 --> 01:28:24,215 my next wave isn't as important to me anymore 1316 01:28:24,215 --> 01:28:25,717 as Alex's next wave. 1317 01:28:39,022 --> 01:28:42,358 [Toni] We make surfboards here. 1318 01:28:42,358 --> 01:28:46,612 The Lopez business is really a mom-and-pop shop. 1319 01:28:46,654 --> 01:28:50,658 Alex has his own line of boards. 1320 01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:52,452 [Alex] I love building boards. 1321 01:28:52,452 --> 01:28:55,830 Just getting lost in doing something. 1322 01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:59,208 [Gerry] Alex's boards are different than mine, 1323 01:28:59,208 --> 01:29:01,461 and passing on what I can to Alex 1324 01:29:01,461 --> 01:29:04,339 has really given me a deeper appreciation 1325 01:29:04,339 --> 01:29:06,132 for this thing, the shaping thing 1326 01:29:06,132 --> 01:29:08,634 that I've been doing for the last 50 years. 1327 01:29:08,676 --> 01:29:10,720 [piano playing classical music] 1328 01:29:16,059 --> 01:29:17,643 I love shaping. 1329 01:29:17,643 --> 01:29:20,104 Shaping and building surfboards 1330 01:29:20,104 --> 01:29:22,607 really keeps me 1331 01:29:22,607 --> 01:29:25,318 in my surf consciousness. 1332 01:30:01,396 --> 01:30:05,817 Shaping has never, never lost its appeal for me. 1333 01:30:05,817 --> 01:30:09,320 I love it, maybe now more than ever. 1334 01:30:13,032 --> 01:30:14,700 [man] It's like a piece of art. 1335 01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:16,911 [Gerry] They're all pieces of art, 1336 01:30:16,911 --> 01:30:18,413 in my opinion. 1337 01:30:24,293 --> 01:30:27,588 [peaceful piano music playing] 1338 01:30:29,048 --> 01:30:32,343 It's funny, you know, we're four hours from the ocean, 1339 01:30:32,343 --> 01:30:34,720 but this is what we do. 1340 01:30:41,269 --> 01:30:43,813 [Gerry] I guess at this point in my life 1341 01:30:43,813 --> 01:30:47,066 I'm in my teacher phase. 1342 01:30:47,108 --> 01:30:51,320 As I grow older, I find that sharing what I've learned 1343 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,532 has become more and more important to me. 1344 01:30:57,660 --> 01:31:01,622 And so I've traveled quite a bit to different parts of the world 1345 01:31:01,664 --> 01:31:04,083 to do yoga retreats. 1346 01:31:04,125 --> 01:31:07,920 [contemplative music playing] 1347 01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,506 I hadn't been back to Bali in about 30 years, 1348 01:31:10,506 --> 01:31:12,884 and I went back to teach some yoga 1349 01:31:12,925 --> 01:31:14,760 and to help raise some money 1350 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,805 for the community there at Uluwatu. 1351 01:31:20,892 --> 01:31:24,437 I feel what my role is, is I'm just a conduit 1352 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:25,980 for all this information 1353 01:31:26,022 --> 01:31:29,066 that's been there for a long, long time. 1354 01:31:29,108 --> 01:31:30,860 [man] Do you like teaching? 1355 01:31:30,902 --> 01:31:33,362 [Gerry] I'm a little nervous, you know, 1356 01:31:33,404 --> 01:31:37,992 because I don't feel as though I'm completely qualified to do it. 1357 01:31:37,992 --> 01:31:41,829 You know, I've been practicing yoga for over 50 years and... 1358 01:31:41,871 --> 01:31:45,750 [man] That doesn't sound like you're qualified. 1359 01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:46,792 Yeah. 1360 01:31:46,834 --> 01:31:48,419 When I teach yoga, 1361 01:31:48,461 --> 01:31:51,255 I'm not making anything up. 1362 01:31:51,255 --> 01:31:54,008 Everything I teach comes from a source 1363 01:31:54,008 --> 01:31:57,512 that I believe to be completely unimpeachable. 1364 01:32:14,028 --> 01:32:18,491 I've been studying this book since 1968. 1365 01:32:18,491 --> 01:32:20,993 I mean, this is the original one, 1366 01:32:20,993 --> 01:32:23,496 three dollars and 80 cents. 1367 01:32:23,538 --> 01:32:26,749 There's all these poses in here that, 1368 01:32:26,749 --> 01:32:29,961 I mean, I've tried everything a million times. 1369 01:32:29,961 --> 01:32:32,505 This pose is tremendously difficult. 1370 01:32:32,547 --> 01:32:34,173 I'd love to be able to do that one. 1371 01:32:34,173 --> 01:32:35,841 I can't even do that one. 1372 01:32:35,841 --> 01:32:39,428 I try almost once a week, still. 1373 01:32:39,428 --> 01:32:42,473 I mean, this is 50 years trying to do it. 1374 01:32:55,653 --> 01:32:59,407 [Alex] My dad's determination, his perseverance, 1375 01:32:59,407 --> 01:33:01,826 that's something that's inspirational 1376 01:33:01,826 --> 01:33:04,078 and motivational, 1377 01:33:04,078 --> 01:33:08,374 like, "Wow, how old is he, and he just started foiling?" 1378 01:33:19,260 --> 01:33:23,139 [Gerry] I want to keep learning new things. 1379 01:33:23,139 --> 01:33:27,435 I'm determined because I know it can be done. 1380 01:33:29,478 --> 01:33:31,522 One of the hardest things in life 1381 01:33:31,522 --> 01:33:34,817 is allowing yourself that freedom to fail 1382 01:33:34,817 --> 01:33:36,777 and be a kook. 1383 01:33:45,036 --> 01:33:47,622 [Toni] When he picks something up, 1384 01:33:47,622 --> 01:33:50,875 I've never seen anybody so driven. 1385 01:33:50,875 --> 01:33:53,252 [Alex] Anything that he wants to learn how to do, 1386 01:33:53,294 --> 01:33:57,006 he has this tunnel vision where nothing is gonna stop him. 1387 01:34:03,220 --> 01:34:05,181 [Gerry] Sometimes that frustration 1388 01:34:05,181 --> 01:34:08,643 will just kill you and stop you and go, "Screw it." 1389 01:34:08,684 --> 01:34:11,729 It's only when you're not trying, 1390 01:34:11,729 --> 01:34:15,066 when it just happens on its own and it's spontaneous, 1391 01:34:15,066 --> 01:34:17,652 that the light bulb goes on. 1392 01:34:38,339 --> 01:34:40,508 [Toni] As focused as he is on surfing, 1393 01:34:40,549 --> 01:34:43,302 he is on a lot of different things. 1394 01:34:56,232 --> 01:34:58,693 [Gerry] I was finding myself 1395 01:34:58,693 --> 01:35:01,570 having to find younger friends to do things with, 1396 01:35:01,612 --> 01:35:03,239 because the ones my age 1397 01:35:03,239 --> 01:35:05,991 are just not that interested anymore. 1398 01:35:09,036 --> 01:35:11,747 [Matt] Gerry's 70, and he's going to end up 1399 01:35:11,747 --> 01:35:14,125 sitting in full lotus position 1400 01:35:14,166 --> 01:35:16,585 while the rest of us are in senior living. 1401 01:35:21,006 --> 01:35:23,092 [Sam] Whether you're watching old movies 1402 01:35:23,092 --> 01:35:24,802 of him surfing Pipeline, 1403 01:35:24,802 --> 01:35:27,430 or watching him surf a river wave in Bend, Oregon, 1404 01:35:27,430 --> 01:35:32,560 you'll see him experiencing the very same sensation. 1405 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,187 There's something about the energy 1406 01:35:35,187 --> 01:35:36,897 that is coming up through the board 1407 01:35:36,897 --> 01:35:39,734 into the soles of the feet and into his soul 1408 01:35:39,734 --> 01:35:42,278 that sustains him, that drives him, 1409 01:35:42,278 --> 01:35:44,530 and that satisfies him. 1410 01:36:16,812 --> 01:36:19,482 [Gerry] We're only here for a short time, 1411 01:36:19,523 --> 01:36:23,778 and you have to find some peace within you. 1412 01:36:24,987 --> 01:36:26,822 Then sharing that peace, 1413 01:36:26,822 --> 01:36:28,866 contributing to other people's happiness, 1414 01:36:28,908 --> 01:36:32,870 lets you find the true goal, the true meaning of life. 1415 01:37:00,606 --> 01:37:02,566 [peaceful guitar music playing] 1416 01:40:16,677 --> 01:40:19,763 My beach, my wave, go home. 1417 01:40:19,763 --> 01:40:21,348 [man] Yeah! 103859

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