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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,085 --> 00:00:03,670 - Tonight on "The Proof Is Out There." 2 00:00:03,670 --> 00:00:07,674 Was this the first footage ever shot of a genuine UFO? 3 00:00:07,674 --> 00:00:10,219 - In 1950, the newly independent Air Force 4 00:00:10,219 --> 00:00:13,347 was already taking these kinds of sightings very seriously. 5 00:00:13,347 --> 00:00:15,474 - [Tony] Could this strange mummy really be 6 00:00:15,474 --> 00:00:17,601 the remains of an alien? 7 00:00:17,601 --> 00:00:21,688 - She does, in fact, have tridactyl hands and feet, 8 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:25,067 which only display three fingers and three toes. 9 00:00:25,067 --> 00:00:26,985 - [Tony] How did one man survive 10 00:00:26,985 --> 00:00:29,863 the deadliest plane crash of 2025? 11 00:00:29,863 --> 00:00:31,740 - That someone could walk away 12 00:00:31,740 --> 00:00:35,702 from this disaster is impossible. 13 00:00:35,702 --> 00:00:39,957 - [Tony] And did this photo capture a real-life ghost? 14 00:00:39,957 --> 00:00:45,003 - This stands out as one of the most famous ghost photos 15 00:00:45,504 --> 00:00:46,338 of all time. 16 00:00:51,385 --> 00:00:53,971 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 17 00:00:53,971 --> 00:00:56,265 - Oh, there it goes. - [Tony] Photos. 18 00:00:57,849 --> 00:01:00,185 And sounds that defy explanation. 19 00:01:00,185 --> 00:01:02,562 [static hissing] 20 00:01:02,562 --> 00:01:05,399 [dramatic music] 21 00:01:05,399 --> 00:01:07,317 - We don't know where they come from, 22 00:01:07,317 --> 00:01:08,652 who made them, 23 00:01:08,652 --> 00:01:09,903 or how they operate. - [Tony] What are they? 24 00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:12,197 - Some sort of bizarre mutation. 25 00:01:12,197 --> 00:01:13,949 - What's exciting is nobody really knows. 26 00:01:13,949 --> 00:01:17,077 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 27 00:01:18,996 --> 00:01:21,456 - I'm Tony Harris, and as a journalist for more 28 00:01:21,456 --> 00:01:25,294 than 30 years, I've followed the facts where they take me. 29 00:01:25,294 --> 00:01:27,588 - [Tony] Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 30 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:30,132 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 31 00:01:30,132 --> 00:01:32,551 - It's coming toward us. - We'll analyze each one 32 00:01:32,551 --> 00:01:34,344 with top experts. 33 00:01:34,344 --> 00:01:37,472 - It's a credible case. It's a credible video. 34 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:40,225 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 35 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:42,352 - This video was clearly faked. 36 00:01:42,352 --> 00:01:44,479 - "The Proof" starts now. 37 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:47,274 [dramatic music] 38 00:01:52,654 --> 00:01:55,741 Good evening, and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 39 00:01:55,741 --> 00:02:00,662 Back in 1947, pilot Kenneth Arnold reported nine flying 40 00:02:00,662 --> 00:02:02,706 objects over Washington state. 41 00:02:02,706 --> 00:02:03,749 He didn't get a photo. 42 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:05,625 But his account alone kicked off 43 00:02:05,625 --> 00:02:07,919 the first flying saucer craze. 44 00:02:07,919 --> 00:02:09,795 Just a few years later, 45 00:02:09,795 --> 00:02:12,507 the very first motion picture film 46 00:02:12,507 --> 00:02:15,344 of an alleged flying saucer was shot. 47 00:02:15,344 --> 00:02:17,304 The footage made a huge splash. 48 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:20,766 And now it's time for us to take a look. 49 00:02:22,059 --> 00:02:25,687 - [Tony] It's June 1950 in Louisville, Kentucky. 50 00:02:25,687 --> 00:02:28,023 Louisville Times staff photographer, 51 00:02:28,023 --> 00:02:29,191 Al Hixenbaugh 52 00:02:29,191 --> 00:02:31,151 intends to film some birds. 53 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:34,112 But a roaring engine overhead draws his attention 54 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:36,490 to something far stranger. 55 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:39,951 He points his 16-millimeter movie camera skyward 56 00:02:39,951 --> 00:02:41,119 and films this. 57 00:02:41,119 --> 00:02:42,621 A DC-3 plane crosses 58 00:02:42,621 --> 00:02:46,208 the frame, unmistakable, steady, conventional. 59 00:02:46,208 --> 00:02:49,336 But then a strange circular object appears. 60 00:02:49,336 --> 00:02:51,755 - It's a dark orb, but it looks like there's kind of 61 00:02:51,755 --> 00:02:53,965 this glowing halo around it. 62 00:02:53,965 --> 00:02:55,884 It looks like it's floating and shifting 63 00:02:55,884 --> 00:02:58,220 and almost dancing a little bit through the sky. 64 00:02:58,220 --> 00:03:01,348 And in 1950, just the fact that anybody saw 65 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:03,392 this was enough to capture headlines. 66 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:07,688 - [Tony] This UFO story spread from The Louisville Times 67 00:03:07,688 --> 00:03:09,439 to papers across the nation, 68 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:11,358 the footage going down in history 69 00:03:11,358 --> 00:03:15,362 as the very first motion picture of a flying saucer. 70 00:03:15,362 --> 00:03:17,948 - [Amy] This was taken in a time when UFOs 71 00:03:17,948 --> 00:03:19,408 were on everybody's mind. 72 00:03:19,408 --> 00:03:21,785 In 1950, the newly independent Air Force 73 00:03:21,785 --> 00:03:24,621 was already starting to investigate UFOs. 74 00:03:24,621 --> 00:03:26,706 One early project was Project Grudge, 75 00:03:26,706 --> 00:03:29,418 and reports show that there were actual investigations 76 00:03:29,418 --> 00:03:31,503 and intelligence reviews suggesting that the Air Force 77 00:03:31,503 --> 00:03:34,548 was taking these kinds of sightings very seriously. 78 00:03:35,424 --> 00:03:36,925 - [Tony] In fact, the Air Force 79 00:03:36,925 --> 00:03:38,385 took this Louisville sighting 80 00:03:38,385 --> 00:03:41,304 so seriously, it tried to get a copy of the film, 81 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:44,599 according to unclassified documents. 82 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:47,436 We don't know how that investigation ended, 83 00:03:47,436 --> 00:03:52,482 but we do know some people maintain this is a UFO, 84 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:54,693 partly because of that glow. 85 00:03:54,693 --> 00:03:57,821 - Some suggest the corona is proof of an energy signature 86 00:03:57,821 --> 00:04:00,574 from a particle accelerator that is allowing this object to 87 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:03,910 travel through interdimensional gateways like wormholes. 88 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:06,204 So some wonder whether the glowing aura is enough 89 00:04:06,204 --> 00:04:09,666 to legitimize this as a true flying saucer. 90 00:04:09,666 --> 00:04:11,710 - [Tony] And if it is a flying saucer, 91 00:04:11,710 --> 00:04:14,463 it's one of the few that's been documented flying 92 00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:15,839 on its side. 93 00:04:15,839 --> 00:04:17,882 - It looks like it's almost on the side, 94 00:04:17,882 --> 00:04:19,676 or we're looking at the undercarriage 95 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:21,344 of a traditional UFO. 96 00:04:22,846 --> 00:04:26,349 - [Tony] It's reminiscent of another photo taken in 1967 97 00:04:26,349 --> 00:04:29,811 in New Mexico, which shows an alleged flying saucer 98 00:04:29,811 --> 00:04:32,189 in the same position. 99 00:04:32,189 --> 00:04:34,816 - Traditional UFOs move horizontally, 100 00:04:34,816 --> 00:04:37,611 but some wonder whether this could be another type 101 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:39,654 of UFO that went out of fashion 102 00:04:39,654 --> 00:04:41,865 because it hasn't been reported as frequently. 103 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:45,535 - By the early 1950s, 104 00:04:45,535 --> 00:04:48,079 many businesses had figured out how to cash 105 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:51,416 in on America's flying saucer obsession. 106 00:04:51,416 --> 00:04:54,336 From early frisbees to ice cream sandwiches, 107 00:04:54,336 --> 00:04:55,754 if the product was round, 108 00:04:55,754 --> 00:04:59,549 it was probably marketed as a flying saucer. 109 00:04:59,549 --> 00:05:02,677 Let's see if our experts think this historic footage 110 00:05:02,677 --> 00:05:04,471 is also worth the hype. 111 00:05:04,471 --> 00:05:07,098 [tense music] 112 00:05:08,642 --> 00:05:10,811 - [Tony] First, a reality check. 113 00:05:10,811 --> 00:05:14,022 That other flying saucer photo we showed you turned out 114 00:05:14,022 --> 00:05:15,440 to be a hoax. 115 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,067 Could that be the case here? 116 00:05:17,067 --> 00:05:19,903 - This historic footage has a lot of things going for it. 117 00:05:19,903 --> 00:05:23,365 Number one, we have a witness who visually saw it. 118 00:05:23,365 --> 00:05:26,660 Number two, I think that the footage itself supports 119 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,829 the idea this was actually in the sky. 120 00:05:28,829 --> 00:05:32,207 What's difficult when you're doing film to hoax something 121 00:05:32,207 --> 00:05:34,376 is you're not just looking at one frame. 122 00:05:34,376 --> 00:05:38,588 At 24 frames per second, shooting 50 feet of film, 123 00:05:38,588 --> 00:05:41,758 that's about 2,000 frames of film. 124 00:05:41,758 --> 00:05:44,719 So to hoax that, to paint it, let's say, 125 00:05:44,719 --> 00:05:47,347 into the image in post-production 126 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,516 at the time period would have been quite difficult 127 00:05:49,516 --> 00:05:51,726 to do over so many frames. 128 00:05:51,726 --> 00:05:54,437 So my conclusion is this is something that's actually 129 00:05:54,437 --> 00:05:55,272 in the sky. 130 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:57,816 - [Tony] Given the circular shape, 131 00:05:57,816 --> 00:06:00,110 could that something be a weather balloon? 132 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,028 - Weather balloons rise very rapidly, 133 00:06:02,028 --> 00:06:05,407 and it's just like when you let go of a party balloon, 134 00:06:05,407 --> 00:06:08,493 it flies up in the air and it moves with the wind. 135 00:06:08,493 --> 00:06:11,037 So even though weather balloons are very, very large, 136 00:06:11,037 --> 00:06:13,707 they become visually small very quickly. 137 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,793 So there's no indication that this is a weather balloon. 138 00:06:16,793 --> 00:06:19,838 - [Tony] But that doesn't mean it's a UFO. 139 00:06:19,838 --> 00:06:23,216 While West agrees this is something in the sky, 140 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:25,760 he thinks it looks a little different on the film 141 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,388 than it would have in real life. 142 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:31,224 - [Mick] I think what we're looking at here is an artifact 143 00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:35,478 of film development and film exposure called solarization. 144 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:40,609 And this happens when the film is exposed to the sun. 145 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:42,736 If you get too much sun, 146 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:45,488 it can basically break that development process, 147 00:06:45,488 --> 00:06:50,076 and it can strip away the silver crystals from the film. 148 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:51,703 And that has 149 00:06:51,703 --> 00:06:53,997 the same effect of them not being exposed at all. 150 00:06:53,997 --> 00:06:56,958 So instead of seeing a white disk of the sun, 151 00:06:56,958 --> 00:06:59,544 you see a black disk of the sun 152 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:02,213 because of it being overexposed. 153 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:03,673 I think when he got back to the darkroom, 154 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:05,133 when he developed this film, 155 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:07,510 the sun came out black because it 156 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:10,972 has overexposed these silver crystals. 157 00:07:10,972 --> 00:07:13,433 And perhaps at that point, he then decided 158 00:07:13,433 --> 00:07:15,477 that he was going to call it a UFO. 159 00:07:15,477 --> 00:07:17,062 But I think he pretty much knew 160 00:07:17,062 --> 00:07:19,022 that what we're looking at was the sun. 161 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:28,490 - Our verdict? This is a film artifact. 162 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:31,660 Specifically, a solarized image of the sun. 163 00:07:31,660 --> 00:07:33,953 It turns out other local reporters 164 00:07:33,953 --> 00:07:36,414 doubted Hixenbaugh's credibility. 165 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:40,251 They even told officials he'd faked a UFO photo before. 166 00:07:40,251 --> 00:07:44,756 So we can assume his sensationalist story was spun 167 00:07:44,756 --> 00:07:48,551 to sell papers, not to prove flying saucers were real. 168 00:07:50,011 --> 00:07:53,640 Let's turn now from UFOs to aliens themselves 169 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,144 and the mysteries surrounding Peru's Nazca Lines. 170 00:07:58,144 --> 00:07:59,646 They are one 171 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:02,232 of the world's most enduring archeological mysteries. 172 00:08:02,232 --> 00:08:03,942 There's a theory they were created 173 00:08:03,942 --> 00:08:06,403 by nonhuman intelligent beings. 174 00:08:06,403 --> 00:08:08,238 It's been dismissed by skeptics. 175 00:08:08,238 --> 00:08:11,866 But could a new discovery change the conversation? 176 00:08:13,076 --> 00:08:17,163 - [Tony] It's 2015 in the Nazca region of Peru. 177 00:08:17,163 --> 00:08:18,581 According to news reports, 178 00:08:18,581 --> 00:08:20,375 a tomb raider exploring 179 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:23,586 an unnamed cave uncovers strange remains. 180 00:08:24,838 --> 00:08:26,548 They're studied 181 00:08:26,548 --> 00:08:30,176 at the Inkari-Cusco Institute for archeological research. 182 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:33,179 The human-like figure appears to be covered in a dry, 183 00:08:33,179 --> 00:08:37,475 chalky powder that's described as fossilized algae. 184 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:40,937 Nicknamed Maria, she has an elongated skull 185 00:08:40,937 --> 00:08:43,356 and very unusual appendages, 186 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:47,360 reminiscent of descriptions of the classic gray alien. 187 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,570 - She does, in fact, 188 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:51,531 have tridactyl hands and feet, 189 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:54,534 which only display three fingers and three toes. 190 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:57,787 - [Tony] Yet what's most unusual is that she has finger 191 00:08:57,787 --> 00:09:01,207 and toe prints like these that look very different 192 00:09:01,207 --> 00:09:02,751 from most humans. 193 00:09:02,751 --> 00:09:04,210 - [Ken] What we're seeing here is kind of very straight, 194 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:07,881 horizontal skin ridges, or dermatoglyphics. 195 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:10,008 Human fingerprints tend to be curved. 196 00:09:10,008 --> 00:09:12,886 - [Tony] Peruvian journalist Jois Mantilla 197 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:14,846 says radiocarbon dating 198 00:09:14,846 --> 00:09:17,640 indicates she's over 1,700 years old, 199 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,853 and tests of her DNA say she's not human. 200 00:09:21,853 --> 00:09:26,149 [Jois speaking in foreign language] 201 00:09:33,531 --> 00:09:36,451 - [Tony] Since there are all of these strange discrepancies, 202 00:09:36,451 --> 00:09:40,038 could we actually be dealing with an alien life form? 203 00:09:40,038 --> 00:09:42,540 Let's get some expert analysis. 204 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:45,126 [tense music] 205 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,048 We'll start with those odd fingerprints. 206 00:09:50,048 --> 00:09:53,510 They don't seem to fit from an evolutionary standpoint. 207 00:09:53,510 --> 00:09:55,595 - Fingerprints help us not to lose grip 208 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:58,264 on slick items like, say, a glass, 209 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:02,393 because it helps us adhere our fingers to that surface. 210 00:10:02,393 --> 00:10:05,063 For Maria to have fingerprints like this, 211 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:06,981 she would not be able to grip things 212 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:09,150 the way that we grip things, 213 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:13,530 and so, I don't see how that benefits her in any way. 214 00:10:13,530 --> 00:10:17,075 - [Tony] And what about that strange elongated head? 215 00:10:17,075 --> 00:10:19,285 - [Kathy] This body was found in Nazca, Peru, 216 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:21,830 where the culture there is very well known 217 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:24,582 for head binding, where they would bind the head 218 00:10:24,582 --> 00:10:28,795 of an infant and then cause it to be more elongated. 219 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:30,338 Almost all of those burials 220 00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:32,882 have this type of elongated skull. 221 00:10:32,882 --> 00:10:36,427 - [Tony] But there's a detail that raises red flags overall, 222 00:10:36,427 --> 00:10:38,429 that chalky powder on the body. 223 00:10:38,429 --> 00:10:41,641 And we still haven't explained these odd appendages. 224 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:45,103 Well, upon closer inspection of those scans, 225 00:10:45,103 --> 00:10:46,938 it appears all is not quite as it seems 226 00:10:46,938 --> 00:10:50,942 with this skeleton, starting with that powdery substance. 227 00:10:50,942 --> 00:10:52,402 - It's really suspicious 228 00:10:52,402 --> 00:10:55,780 that there's this white coating all over this specimen. 229 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:59,159 It seems like it would be a great way to hide 230 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:03,329 anything that was created artificially. 231 00:11:03,329 --> 00:11:07,834 - [Tony] Artificially created? The CT scans say yes. 232 00:11:07,834 --> 00:11:11,337 - The bones of the hands and feet match human bones, 233 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:14,674 but it simply looks like the thumb and pinky 234 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:16,092 have been removed. 235 00:11:16,092 --> 00:11:18,344 And it appears that other fingers have been attached 236 00:11:18,344 --> 00:11:22,515 to the three main fingers to make them look longer 237 00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:24,017 than they are. 238 00:11:24,017 --> 00:11:27,478 We know this is a hoax because the CT scans reveal 239 00:11:27,478 --> 00:11:29,189 that they are human appendages, 240 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:33,234 but they've been modified to create this alien appearance. 241 00:11:34,736 --> 00:11:36,738 - [Tony] Oh, and about that DNA. 242 00:11:36,738 --> 00:11:39,699 Subsequent testing by a Canadian team indicates 243 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:42,160 the bone samples tested may have been damaged 244 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,955 and contaminated, making any results unreliable. 245 00:11:51,502 --> 00:11:54,005 Our verdict? This is a hoax. 246 00:11:54,005 --> 00:11:55,965 The skeleton is human 247 00:11:55,965 --> 00:11:59,302 and most likely tampered with in a disrespectful way. 248 00:12:03,389 --> 00:12:05,767 - At the height of the Cold War, the U.S. Navy 249 00:12:05,767 --> 00:12:07,769 was on constant alert for foreign threats. 250 00:12:07,769 --> 00:12:09,729 But in 1952, something appeared 251 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:11,898 over a U.S. aircraft carrier 252 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:16,027 that crew members couldn't explain, much less defeat. 253 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:21,282 - [Tony] September 1952, the USS Franklin Delano Roosevelt 254 00:12:21,282 --> 00:12:24,577 is conducting maneuvers somewhere in the North Sea, 255 00:12:24,577 --> 00:12:28,915 off the coast of Norway, as part of Operation Mainbrace. 256 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:33,294 - Operation Mainbrace was NATO's first major Cold War naval 257 00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:35,713 exercise involving hundreds of ships 258 00:12:35,713 --> 00:12:39,926 and aircraft operating in coordinated, monitored airspace. 259 00:12:40,927 --> 00:12:42,303 - [Tony] It's about 4 p.m., 260 00:12:42,303 --> 00:12:44,389 and news photographer Wallace Litwin 261 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:46,808 is on the forward flight deck when he notices 262 00:12:46,808 --> 00:12:50,520 a white sphere floating hundreds of feet above the ship. 263 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,939 He snaps three exposures. 264 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:55,191 Two are developed into film slides, 265 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:59,862 where we can see a tiny orb hovering alongside the clouds. 266 00:12:59,862 --> 00:13:04,117 And one is enlarged into this photograph. 267 00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:07,078 - Here's the conning tower of the aircraft carrier. 268 00:13:07,078 --> 00:13:09,497 And then up here at the top left side of the photograph 269 00:13:09,497 --> 00:13:12,917 is this luminous object, this ball. 270 00:13:12,917 --> 00:13:15,753 Now, we have no idea what this is, other 271 00:13:15,753 --> 00:13:17,839 than allegedly, according to some people that were 272 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:22,593 on the USS Roosevelt, that this was a UFO. 273 00:13:23,469 --> 00:13:24,846 - [Tony] There's more. 274 00:13:24,846 --> 00:13:27,849 Later that day, officers at Air Base Karup 275 00:13:27,849 --> 00:13:30,101 in Denmark see something similar. 276 00:13:30,101 --> 00:13:33,104 - Three Royal Danish Air Force officers sighted a UFO 277 00:13:33,104 --> 00:13:35,064 at about 7:30 p.m. 278 00:13:35,064 --> 00:13:38,735 The object was a shiny disc with a metallic appearance, 279 00:13:38,735 --> 00:13:41,654 and it passed overhead from the direction of the fleet 280 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:44,657 and disappeared in the clouds to the east. 281 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:47,493 - [Tony] As if that weren't enough, Royal Air Force officers 282 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:50,121 are seeing silvery round objects, too. 283 00:13:50,121 --> 00:13:53,416 First, over RAF Topcliffe the day 284 00:13:53,416 --> 00:13:55,376 before Litwin took his photos, 285 00:13:55,376 --> 00:13:58,671 and then above the North Sea a day or two after. 286 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:01,591 - [Luis] So, you had a lot of different perspectives, 287 00:14:01,591 --> 00:14:04,719 a lot of different people from different backgrounds 288 00:14:04,719 --> 00:14:06,304 and different countries reporting 289 00:14:06,304 --> 00:14:08,473 something very, very similar. 290 00:14:08,473 --> 00:14:11,184 So, clearly, there was something there. 291 00:14:11,184 --> 00:14:13,853 - In that setting, anything unidentified 292 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:18,066 above a U.S. aircraft carrier would not be a curiosity. 293 00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:20,318 It would be operationally relevant. 294 00:14:20,318 --> 00:14:21,694 - This is a problem. 295 00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:22,945 Whether it's technologically a problem 296 00:14:22,945 --> 00:14:24,655 because we're trying to keep our trade secrets, 297 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:26,449 or this is an air safety issue, 298 00:14:26,449 --> 00:14:29,410 no matter how you slice and dice this, it's a problem. 299 00:14:33,414 --> 00:14:36,542 - [Tony] First, isn't this just a simple film artifact? 300 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:38,294 - Because of the fact 301 00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:40,671 that the gentleman got multiple photographs 302 00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:43,633 of this object, and it apparently had moved 303 00:14:43,633 --> 00:14:46,094 to a different position, 304 00:14:46,094 --> 00:14:49,889 those are indications that it is not a defect. 305 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:53,851 - The other thing we have to consider is that Litwin took 306 00:14:53,851 --> 00:14:56,896 this photograph because this object was in the air, 307 00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,648 and he wanted to take a picture of it. 308 00:14:58,648 --> 00:15:00,691 So, I think it's unlikely 309 00:15:00,691 --> 00:15:02,860 that this is a photographic artifact 310 00:15:02,860 --> 00:15:04,737 in this particular case. 311 00:15:04,737 --> 00:15:06,948 - [Tony] The U.S. Air Force looked at this sighting as part 312 00:15:06,948 --> 00:15:09,784 of their multidecade UFO investigation, 313 00:15:09,784 --> 00:15:11,744 Project Blue Book, 314 00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,746 and they dismissed it as a balloon. 315 00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:15,540 Were they right all along? 316 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,083 - [Rich] It could be a weather balloon. 317 00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:20,294 In the context of the actual initial statement 318 00:15:20,294 --> 00:15:22,588 by Mr. Litwin, the photographer, 319 00:15:22,588 --> 00:15:24,632 apparently there was a weather balloon 320 00:15:24,632 --> 00:15:27,468 that was not launched at that time, 321 00:15:27,468 --> 00:15:29,804 but a half an hour earlier, 322 00:15:29,804 --> 00:15:32,181 and that was his initial statement. 323 00:15:32,181 --> 00:15:37,019 Later, as time goes on, and he's retelling the story, 324 00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:40,314 it says that there was no weather balloons up in the area. 325 00:15:40,314 --> 00:15:42,692 - [Tony] So, whether or not there was a weather balloon 326 00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,069 is debatable, but this much we know. 327 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:48,239 Weather balloons rise at about 1,000 feet per minute, 328 00:15:48,239 --> 00:15:49,824 so we can say 329 00:15:49,824 --> 00:15:52,118 that a weather balloon launched 30 minutes earlier would 330 00:15:52,118 --> 00:15:55,163 have already been much too far away to photograph. 331 00:15:55,163 --> 00:15:58,416 So, the big question is still lingering in the air. 332 00:15:58,416 --> 00:16:01,085 - Could it be a UFO? Well, maybe. 333 00:16:01,085 --> 00:16:04,672 I mean, there have been reports of spherical-looking UFOs. 334 00:16:04,672 --> 00:16:09,760 - [Rich] This was an extremely large multi-nation operation 335 00:16:11,095 --> 00:16:12,638 that would have been very interesting to a lot 336 00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:15,433 of the objects that keep showing up around a lot 337 00:16:15,433 --> 00:16:17,935 of our military exercises. 338 00:16:17,935 --> 00:16:20,313 - [Tony] That pattern continues to this day. 339 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:24,567 In 2026, the Pentagon released dozens of UFO videos, 340 00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:28,112 many of which were shot near naval military assets. 341 00:16:28,112 --> 00:16:30,823 - [Rich] And so, it's very logical that you might 342 00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:33,784 have had a case where that was an unknown 343 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:36,245 that was visiting this military exercise. 344 00:16:41,959 --> 00:16:45,171 - We are going to have to disagree with Project Blue Book 345 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:47,965 and call this one unexplained. 346 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:49,717 Balloon or UFO? 347 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:52,845 Both remain possible, but neither can be confirmed 348 00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:55,681 from the photo and conflicting accounts alone. 349 00:16:57,725 --> 00:17:02,021 Now, let's change the subject from ships to planes. 350 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:05,316 From time to time, we feature unlikely survival stories. 351 00:17:05,316 --> 00:17:08,319 This one happened during the deadliest plane crash 352 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:13,156 of 2025, when a sole survivor walked away from the wreckage. 353 00:17:13,156 --> 00:17:15,201 The question is, how? 354 00:17:17,453 --> 00:17:19,747 - [Tony] It's June 12, 2025, 355 00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:22,875 in the western Indian city of Ahmedabad. 356 00:17:23,334 --> 00:17:27,088 At 1:38 p.m., all 12 crew members and 230 passengers 357 00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:31,342 have boarded Air India Flight 171 en route to London. 358 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:35,471 Seconds after taking off and steadily gaining altitude, 359 00:17:35,471 --> 00:17:38,015 the plane descends sharply. 360 00:17:38,015 --> 00:17:42,186 It disappears from view. Then an explosion signals its fate. 361 00:17:43,771 --> 00:17:48,025 - The Air India flight went up in a fireball. 362 00:17:48,025 --> 00:17:53,114 Temperatures went to 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit. 363 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:55,700 - I was horrified when I saw this on the news, 364 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:57,159 and I was like, [speaking in foreign language] 365 00:17:57,159 --> 00:17:59,579 That's what Hindus usually say when someone passes away 366 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:00,913 is [speaking in foreign language]. 367 00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:03,708 "Let their soul rest in peace," essentially. 368 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:08,879 - [Tony] Tragically, 241 people on the plane and 19 people 369 00:18:08,879 --> 00:18:11,299 on the ground are killed in the crash. 370 00:18:11,299 --> 00:18:15,261 And yet, cameras capture one passenger, 371 00:18:15,261 --> 00:18:18,097 40-year-old Vishwash Kumar Ramesh, 372 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:22,310 who appears to walk away from the wreckage almost unharmed. 373 00:18:23,394 --> 00:18:26,314 - If you were to present this scenario, 374 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:29,609 it would be considered forensically impossible 375 00:18:29,609 --> 00:18:31,777 for anyone to have survived it. 376 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:36,616 But Mr. Ramesh did survive it, thus defying the impossible. 377 00:18:37,825 --> 00:18:41,454 - For me, seeing that crash and seeing him survive, 378 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,080 it was a miracle. 379 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,749 It could be God saved him. 380 00:18:45,916 --> 00:18:47,293 - [Tony] There have been some other 381 00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:50,254 unbelievable plane crash survival stories. 382 00:18:50,254 --> 00:18:54,592 In 1971, a passenger plane broke apart over Peru, 383 00:18:54,592 --> 00:18:58,554 and 17-year-old Juliane Koepcke fell more than two miles 384 00:18:58,554 --> 00:19:00,473 into the Amazon. 385 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:04,894 Against all odds, she lived. The explanation? 386 00:19:04,894 --> 00:19:06,812 Updraft from a storm, 387 00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:10,232 along with a jungle canopy cushioning her fall. 388 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:12,818 But what saved Mr. Ramesh? 389 00:19:12,818 --> 00:19:16,822 - [Mitch] Mr. Ramesh was seated in 11A. 390 00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:20,076 Devotees of numerology point out 391 00:19:20,076 --> 00:19:22,328 that some years earlier, 392 00:19:22,328 --> 00:19:24,955 there was another plane crash survivor, 393 00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:28,668 the Thai singer-actor Ruangsak Loychusak 394 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:32,797 survived a plane crash in 1998. 395 00:19:32,797 --> 00:19:35,675 And he too occupied seat 11A. 396 00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:40,388 - Numerologists believe the number 11 is linked 397 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:43,015 to heightened awareness and perception. 398 00:19:43,015 --> 00:19:48,062 Does that have anything to do with how Mr. Ramesh survived? 399 00:19:49,105 --> 00:19:50,022 Or was there something else special 400 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:51,357 about where he was sitting? 401 00:19:52,274 --> 00:19:54,902 [tense music] 402 00:19:56,654 --> 00:19:58,114 - In this case, I can't say 403 00:19:58,114 --> 00:20:01,826 whether there's something magical about seat 11A. 404 00:20:01,826 --> 00:20:05,830 But I do have a theory on why Ramesh survived. 405 00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:09,667 When the plane crashed, Ramesh was in seat 11A. 406 00:20:09,667 --> 00:20:11,001 He was able to escape 407 00:20:11,001 --> 00:20:14,296 through the broken-open emergency exit, 408 00:20:14,296 --> 00:20:17,591 which happened to be right adjacent to his seat. 409 00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:20,678 The plane broke apart, and his part ended up 410 00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:24,140 in a hostel. It came to rest there. 411 00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:26,350 And he was able to get out of his seat 412 00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:28,602 and just walk right out of the airplane 413 00:20:28,602 --> 00:20:32,523 before it filled with fire that essentially would 414 00:20:32,523 --> 00:20:34,191 have spelled his doom. 415 00:20:34,191 --> 00:20:36,986 - In both this India flight and the Thai flight, 416 00:20:36,986 --> 00:20:39,697 both survivors were positioned by the exit, 417 00:20:39,697 --> 00:20:42,116 which I think was key to both of their survival. 418 00:20:46,620 --> 00:20:48,038 - Our verdict? 419 00:20:48,038 --> 00:20:51,584 We're going with very fortunate seat placement. 420 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:54,837 Still, considering that Ramesh didn't just survive 421 00:20:54,837 --> 00:20:57,381 but was able to walk away from this catastrophe, 422 00:20:57,381 --> 00:21:00,426 if you want to call this a miracle, we won't argue. 423 00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:06,015 - Some ghosts are so well known, 424 00:21:06,015 --> 00:21:07,892 they've become semi-celebrities. 425 00:21:07,892 --> 00:21:10,352 The one allegedly captured in this next photo 426 00:21:10,352 --> 00:21:14,190 is so legendary, it's been investigated since the 1930s. 427 00:21:14,190 --> 00:21:16,358 And now it's our turn. 428 00:21:17,318 --> 00:21:20,654 - [Tony] September 1936, Norfolk, England. 429 00:21:20,654 --> 00:21:22,782 Two photographers for Country Life magazine 430 00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:25,367 are taking pictures at the fabled Raynham Hall, 431 00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,411 long reputed to be haunted. 432 00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:29,705 While setting up a shot on the grand staircase, 433 00:21:29,705 --> 00:21:33,042 they say they see a vaporous form on the stairs. 434 00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:36,170 And they're able to capture this. 435 00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:43,093 - As opposed to a photo that has the presence of orbs 436 00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:46,889 or is more of a mist, 437 00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:51,936 this photo has what you can clearly determine to be 438 00:21:53,103 --> 00:21:57,691 this full-bodied apparition descending the steps, 439 00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:02,696 which is effectively why this stands out as one 440 00:22:02,696 --> 00:22:04,949 of the most famous, 441 00:22:04,949 --> 00:22:09,578 if not the most famous, ghost photos of all time. 442 00:22:09,578 --> 00:22:12,790 If I saw this apparition coming down the steps, 443 00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:17,753 I would be torn between wanting to take the photo and try 444 00:22:17,753 --> 00:22:22,758 to interact with it versus the natural impulse to scoot 445 00:22:23,384 --> 00:22:25,094 the heck out of there. 446 00:22:25,094 --> 00:22:27,596 - [Tony] Legends of this ghost go back hundreds of years. 447 00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:32,101 And it's nicknamed the Brown Lady of Raynham Hall. 448 00:22:32,101 --> 00:22:34,728 - The Brown Lady of Raynham Hall is believed to be 449 00:22:34,728 --> 00:22:38,482 the spirit of Lady Dorothy Townshend. 450 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,276 And according to legend, 451 00:22:40,276 --> 00:22:42,945 she carried on an affair with the rival 452 00:22:42,945 --> 00:22:45,531 of her husband, Charles Townshend. 453 00:22:45,531 --> 00:22:47,950 And as punishment, she was entrapped 454 00:22:47,950 --> 00:22:52,746 within the manor, locked away until the time of her death. 455 00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:57,710 Now imagine Dorothy being locked away for so long up 456 00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,087 until the time of her death. 457 00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:02,214 Of course, there'd be strong emotions, 458 00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:05,801 including frustration and anger. 459 00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:09,054 And according to some paranormal theories, 460 00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:12,600 that emotion lingers and carries forward even 461 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,018 in spirit form. 462 00:23:15,436 --> 00:23:19,273 - After her passing, stories of her spectral form haunting 463 00:23:19,273 --> 00:23:22,693 the manor spread throughout the area, 464 00:23:22,693 --> 00:23:27,740 with some members of the staff reportedly leaving in fear. 465 00:23:28,949 --> 00:23:30,701 - [Aaron] So, in 1836, we have this Royal Navy officer, 466 00:23:30,701 --> 00:23:34,413 Captain Marryat, who sets out to poke holes 467 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:39,209 in this ghost story and decides he's going to sleep 468 00:23:39,209 --> 00:23:40,836 over at Raynham Hall. 469 00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:43,339 On the third night, 470 00:23:43,339 --> 00:23:48,344 he encountered this specter clad in the brown dress 471 00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:55,142 and looking precisely like Lady Dorothy in her portrait. 472 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:59,063 The captain sees the specter moving toward him, 473 00:23:59,063 --> 00:24:00,522 and he is 474 00:24:00,522 --> 00:24:03,734 so afraid that he pulls out his gun and fires a shot. 475 00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:07,488 But the bullet passed right through the spectral form. 476 00:24:07,488 --> 00:24:11,867 King George IV decided to stay at the manor, 477 00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:16,789 and he encountered what he described as "a woman 478 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:22,127 in this tattered dress with an ashy paleness." 479 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:30,010 - [Tony] Now we put the question to our experts. 480 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:33,055 Is this a photo of a ghost or a hoax? 481 00:24:33,055 --> 00:24:34,932 - One possibility here is that we're looking at 482 00:24:34,932 --> 00:24:36,767 a light leak. 483 00:24:36,767 --> 00:24:40,396 This is when a camera has some damage to some part 484 00:24:40,396 --> 00:24:45,442 of it, and light leaks into a component of the camera 485 00:24:46,735 --> 00:24:48,988 that shouldn't have that much light there. 486 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:53,325 This manifests itself as bright smudges 487 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:56,829 of different sizes and shapes on the photograph. 488 00:24:56,829 --> 00:24:59,248 Unlike many examples of light leaks, 489 00:24:59,248 --> 00:25:04,128 this one has more of a contained and distinct shape. 490 00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:07,131 Usually light leaks would be on the edges or sides 491 00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:08,382 of the image. 492 00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:11,135 So it is interesting that this apparition, 493 00:25:11,135 --> 00:25:12,428 if that's what it is, 494 00:25:12,428 --> 00:25:15,305 is really toward the center of the image. 495 00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,558 - [Tony] Many believe that this was no accident. 496 00:25:17,558 --> 00:25:19,435 It was an intentional hoax, 497 00:25:19,435 --> 00:25:23,063 and the shape of the apparition reveals how it was done. 498 00:25:23,063 --> 00:25:24,857 - Another possibility of how this could 499 00:25:24,857 --> 00:25:28,861 have been created is to place something like a statue 500 00:25:28,861 --> 00:25:31,238 and remove it during a long exposure. 501 00:25:31,238 --> 00:25:34,241 The motion blur from you removing 502 00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:36,618 the statue actually would not show up 503 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:38,996 if you move fast enough. 504 00:25:38,996 --> 00:25:41,665 - I actually did an experiment to try to replicate this. 505 00:25:41,665 --> 00:25:44,168 This is a long exposure on this camera here, 506 00:25:44,168 --> 00:25:45,461 and I just recorded what happened. 507 00:25:45,461 --> 00:25:48,589 So what I did was I went and I stood on the stairs, 508 00:25:48,589 --> 00:25:51,008 and I froze there for 15 seconds. 509 00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:52,593 It had a 30-second exposure, 510 00:25:52,593 --> 00:25:56,180 so I'm on the stairs for half of the exposure, 511 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:57,931 and when those 15 seconds were up, 512 00:25:57,931 --> 00:26:02,519 I ran out of the shot and just waited another 15 seconds. 513 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,021 This is what actually turned out 514 00:26:04,021 --> 00:26:05,230 from that little experiment I did. 515 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:07,149 Here is me standing on the stairs, 516 00:26:07,149 --> 00:26:09,318 and you can see that I am a transparent ghost. 517 00:26:09,318 --> 00:26:12,071 So, I think this is definitely a possible technique 518 00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:15,365 that someone could have used to fake that particular photo. 519 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,372 - Our verdict? Hoax. 520 00:26:22,372 --> 00:26:26,001 Mick West's test shows how easy it is. 521 00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:28,420 As for those accounts of the ghost appearing 522 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:31,131 to people, those remain unexplained. 523 00:26:34,802 --> 00:26:37,304 - We have investigated strange ancient structures 524 00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:39,306 from all over the world, 525 00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:42,267 but the one you're about to see has defied explanation 526 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,353 for almost a century. 527 00:26:45,354 --> 00:26:48,440 - [Tony] It's 1937 in Salem, New Hampshire. 528 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,068 Insurance executive William Goodwin purchases 529 00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:54,029 a 106-acre plot of farmland. 530 00:26:54,029 --> 00:26:56,115 While hiking his new property, 531 00:26:56,115 --> 00:26:59,451 he comes across beguiling rock formations. 532 00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:02,246 [ominous music] 533 00:27:04,832 --> 00:27:07,417 - He looked at these walls all over the 106 acres. 534 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:08,752 They twist, they bend, 535 00:27:08,752 --> 00:27:10,337 they have big slabs of stone stood on their end. 536 00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:12,256 They have big stones that are flat, 537 00:27:12,256 --> 00:27:14,091 that are stacked up horizontally. 538 00:27:14,091 --> 00:27:15,592 And then they have monoliths, 539 00:27:15,592 --> 00:27:18,470 what we call America's Stonehenge today. 540 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:23,016 - [Aaron] According to William Goodwin, the site's low, 541 00:27:23,016 --> 00:27:27,855 roughly human-scaled stone walls were evidence 542 00:27:27,855 --> 00:27:31,859 of pre-Columbian settlers from across the sea. 543 00:27:31,859 --> 00:27:33,235 He believed there were Irish monks 544 00:27:33,235 --> 00:27:36,154 that were fleeing Viking raids and traveled across 545 00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:40,826 the Atlantic to establish a monastery here. 546 00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:42,786 - [Tony] In the decades since Goodwin's claims 547 00:27:42,786 --> 00:27:45,330 about the site's Irish origins, 548 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:47,374 alternate theories have emerged. 549 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,626 - [Aaron] One of the most provocative origin theories 550 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:51,378 about the site comes to us 551 00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:55,382 from the 1976 book "America B.C." by Barry Fell, 552 00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:58,302 who argued that America's Stonehenge actually preserves 553 00:27:58,302 --> 00:28:03,348 evidence of Iberian settlers who had arrived as far back 554 00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:05,475 as first century B.C. 555 00:28:07,227 --> 00:28:09,897 - [Tony] Or perhaps the builders were here already. 556 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,816 - [Dennis] Some now suggest Native Americans, 557 00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:14,568 because they were here for over 13,000 years 558 00:28:14,568 --> 00:28:15,986 in New Hampshire. 559 00:28:15,986 --> 00:28:17,821 But if there was any tradition of stone building, 560 00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:20,699 it had pretty much disappeared by the time of, say, 561 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:22,826 the Plymouth Plantation in 1620, 562 00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:24,786 or even a little bit earlier than that. 563 00:28:27,998 --> 00:28:30,334 - This massive stone at the center of the site 564 00:28:30,334 --> 00:28:33,045 has been called the Sacrificial Table, 565 00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:36,506 suggesting it was used for a blood ritual. 566 00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:39,551 And adding another layer to this mystery. 567 00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:43,013 So who made our local Stonehenge, and why? 568 00:28:43,013 --> 00:28:45,182 Let's ask our experts. 569 00:28:45,182 --> 00:28:47,643 [tense music] 570 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:52,105 - [Tony] First, what about those Irish monks? 571 00:28:52,105 --> 00:28:56,318 - There are a number of reasons to discount that theory. 572 00:28:57,945 --> 00:29:00,280 Irish monks were expanding 573 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,116 their territory around 1,000 CE, 574 00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:05,661 and the first thing they would do is create 575 00:29:05,661 --> 00:29:10,666 their monastery and these very signature Irish towers, 576 00:29:11,708 --> 00:29:13,752 very tall, circular at the bottom. 577 00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:17,631 Every single Irish monk site we know of 578 00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:21,677 has that signature tower or multiple of them. 579 00:29:21,677 --> 00:29:24,137 And in the case of American Stonehenge, 580 00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:27,140 there's not a single building that looks like that. 581 00:29:28,308 --> 00:29:29,559 - [Tony] What about the claim 582 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,478 that this is an Iberian settlement 583 00:29:31,478 --> 00:29:33,230 from the first century? 584 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:36,441 The answer might be found in stratigraphy, 585 00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,276 the study of the site's rock layers. 586 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:44,491 - [Ed] We see absolutely typical Native American artifacts 587 00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:46,952 in the lowest levels of the excavations. 588 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:50,497 And it's not until the European invasion 589 00:29:50,497 --> 00:29:54,960 that we start seeing things like porcelain and metal, 590 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,712 things that came from Europe. 591 00:29:56,712 --> 00:29:58,296 So there is reason to believe, 592 00:29:58,296 --> 00:30:02,175 just in terms of the chronology and the stratigraphy 593 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:03,552 of the site, 594 00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:07,264 that its original builders were Native Americans. 595 00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:13,145 It also makes complete sense that if Native Americans 596 00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:15,272 had started this kind of construction 597 00:30:15,272 --> 00:30:17,649 and made these shelters, 598 00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:20,485 that the immigrants that came from Europe may 599 00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:24,072 have used Native American foundations 600 00:30:24,072 --> 00:30:28,702 to then build out more European-style things. 601 00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:32,622 - [Tony] So what was the purpose of this site? 602 00:30:33,874 --> 00:30:36,293 - One of the things here that people have speculated 603 00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:39,588 on what it was really used for is this huge block 604 00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:41,089 in the center 605 00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:42,799 that some people call the Sacrifice Table or whatever. 606 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,635 But it could be an area where you cut up meat 607 00:30:45,635 --> 00:30:47,679 or something like a butcher shop. 608 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,514 Something that had to do with the farm 609 00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:51,058 that's surrounding it. 610 00:30:53,060 --> 00:30:55,729 When William Goodwin bought the farm in the 1930s, 611 00:30:55,729 --> 00:30:58,940 he probably moved some rocks around to try to get 612 00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:00,484 into the true structure, 613 00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:03,320 to get in underneath to find out what was there. 614 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,906 So, you know, now almost 100 years later, 615 00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:08,658 those movements kind of cloudy up 616 00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:10,869 what the true structure is. 617 00:31:17,584 --> 00:31:20,295 - The verdict? Mixed construction. 618 00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:24,633 Native Americans likely started America's Stonehenge, 619 00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:27,427 and Europeans built onto it, 620 00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:29,179 which explains its odd features. 621 00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:34,476 - Did giants once walk the Earth? 622 00:31:34,476 --> 00:31:36,144 To answer that question, 623 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:40,357 we're venturing into an ancient Roman mystery in a pair 624 00:31:40,357 --> 00:31:42,442 of shoes that don't quite fit. 625 00:31:43,944 --> 00:31:48,907 - [Tony] It's July 2025 at Magna Roman Fort in northern 626 00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:52,494 England, after years of painstaking excavation, 627 00:31:52,494 --> 00:31:55,956 archeologists working at this first-century Roman military 628 00:31:55,956 --> 00:32:00,877 settlement make a discovery that stops the dig cold. 629 00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:04,172 Buried in a ditch outside the fort is a collection 630 00:32:04,172 --> 00:32:07,968 of shoes dating back nearly 2,000 years. 631 00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:11,972 - We're talking about 30 to 40 shoes right now. 632 00:32:11,972 --> 00:32:14,933 Every fort has a series of defensive ditches 633 00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:17,102 that are right outside of the fort. 634 00:32:17,102 --> 00:32:18,562 And that's a common place 635 00:32:18,562 --> 00:32:21,231 where, when a unit was, let's say, leaving the fort, 636 00:32:21,231 --> 00:32:23,024 they would actually throw a lot of trash, 637 00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:24,401 a lot of rubbish in there. 638 00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:26,361 Like worn-out shoes was a perfect thing to just go 639 00:32:26,361 --> 00:32:27,988 into this ditch. 640 00:32:27,988 --> 00:32:29,823 - [Tony] But a closer look reveals 641 00:32:29,823 --> 00:32:32,242 these aren't any old shoes. 642 00:32:32,242 --> 00:32:34,661 - [Elizabeth] Immediately, everyone said, "Wow, 643 00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:36,621 these shoes are looking very large, aren't they?" 644 00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:38,582 Because they're wider, they're longer, 645 00:32:38,582 --> 00:32:42,127 their, just, their whole feel is much larger. 646 00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:45,380 Something like 50% are above this kind of normal size. 647 00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:46,798 You know, they're quite large. 648 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:48,425 - [Tony] The largest shoe 649 00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:53,013 in the Magna Fort collection measures 32.6 centimeters, 650 00:32:53,013 --> 00:32:55,765 the equivalent of a size 15. 651 00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:57,517 That means the man who wore it could 652 00:32:57,517 --> 00:32:59,686 have been nearly seven feet tall. 653 00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:02,105 For context, the average Roman male 654 00:33:02,105 --> 00:33:04,107 was about five foot five. 655 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,568 Did the Romans enlist giants? 656 00:33:06,568 --> 00:33:09,321 It's not as far out as it sounds. 657 00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:12,866 - Nearly every civilization from the South Pacific 658 00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:17,787 to Siberia has an ancient lore of giants. 659 00:33:18,455 --> 00:33:20,040 There is speculation 660 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,170 that these ancient mythologies were based on real beings. 661 00:33:26,213 --> 00:33:28,089 - [Tony] If they were real beings, 662 00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:29,507 where did they come from? 663 00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:32,219 Some wonder if they were remnants of a species 664 00:33:32,219 --> 00:33:34,804 of large humans called Denisovans. 665 00:33:34,804 --> 00:33:38,141 We know about Denisovans from the handful of bones 666 00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:41,478 and teeth that have been found since 2008. 667 00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:43,313 - [Mitch] The Denisovans were 668 00:33:43,313 --> 00:33:47,567 a large-proportioned prehistoric people, 669 00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:52,614 and they had bodies that were, for their time, 670 00:33:53,698 --> 00:33:55,742 far larger than typical Homo sapiens. 671 00:33:55,742 --> 00:33:57,869 - [Tony] Another theory is the shoes belonged 672 00:33:57,869 --> 00:34:01,706 to modern humans, albeit exceedingly large ones, 673 00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:03,208 made to fight for Rome. 674 00:34:04,584 --> 00:34:09,630 - [Mitch] The Roman historian Cassius Dio reported legions 675 00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:14,761 facing barbarian tribes of incredible stature and strength. 676 00:34:16,096 --> 00:34:19,766 Rome was known to incorporate conquered nations 677 00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:22,185 into its military. 678 00:34:22,185 --> 00:34:27,274 So if there were hugely sized Roman soldiers, 679 00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:32,195 they might have come from a conquered tribe that Rome 680 00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:37,284 was able to enlist in its own military efforts. 681 00:34:39,536 --> 00:34:41,036 - There are accounts 682 00:34:41,036 --> 00:34:44,248 of the Roman Emperor Augustus displaying massive bones 683 00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,583 and weapons in his gardens and villas, 684 00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:49,379 believing they belonged to ancient giants. 685 00:34:49,379 --> 00:34:52,507 To a Roman audience, giants weren't fantasy. 686 00:34:52,507 --> 00:34:53,925 They were history. 687 00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:57,387 But is it possible the Romans had actual giants 688 00:34:57,387 --> 00:34:58,555 within their ranks? 689 00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:04,978 - [Tony] First, were they Denisovans? 690 00:35:04,978 --> 00:35:07,439 The problem is the fossils we alluded to. 691 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,483 They suggest Denisovans were heavier than us, 692 00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:14,154 but no complete Denisovan skeleton has been found, 693 00:35:14,154 --> 00:35:16,197 so it's unclear if they were taller. 694 00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:19,034 So did the shoes belong to barbarians, 695 00:35:19,034 --> 00:35:21,161 made to fight for Rome? 696 00:35:21,161 --> 00:35:25,290 Maybe. But don't believe the ancient stories. 697 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:29,461 - [Ed] Cassius Dio, like any good historian that's writing 698 00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:31,921 a tale worth hearing, 699 00:35:31,921 --> 00:35:34,507 he may have inflated the actual size 700 00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:36,676 of how big these people are. 701 00:35:36,676 --> 00:35:39,346 We do know that the people of Northern Europe were 702 00:35:39,346 --> 00:35:42,515 of larger size, certainly, than the Romans, 703 00:35:42,515 --> 00:35:45,810 so that was certainly bigger than Romans, and large, 704 00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:50,774 but to call it giant is a bit of a stretch. 705 00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:53,860 - [Tony] Then who did these shoes belong to? 706 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:57,280 - [Ed] If the Romans want a fort full of strong soldiers 707 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,324 that people won't oppose, 708 00:35:59,324 --> 00:36:01,785 they were probably specifically looking for 709 00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:04,079 the largest people they could find, 710 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,498 because they make the best soldiers, 711 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:08,750 or at least the most intimidating ones. 712 00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:13,672 So it makes sense that the Roman soldiers who would occupy 713 00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:16,257 a fort would be of local stock, 714 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:17,592 and the local stock, 715 00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:21,680 especially Scandinavians and the northern part 716 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,058 of the U.K., were much larger folks. 717 00:36:25,058 --> 00:36:27,769 - They've taken the largest men 718 00:36:27,769 --> 00:36:32,148 from the furthest territories to guard against whatever 719 00:36:32,148 --> 00:36:33,733 they were fearful of. 720 00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,152 That group just happened to have bigger feet, 721 00:36:36,152 --> 00:36:37,862 and they kept them together. 722 00:36:42,575 --> 00:36:44,411 - We agree with our experts. 723 00:36:44,411 --> 00:36:46,788 The shoes belong to local conscripts 724 00:36:46,788 --> 00:36:48,707 of the larger variety. 725 00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:52,836 By the way, when Caesar invaded Britain in 55 BC, 726 00:36:52,836 --> 00:36:54,170 he described Britons 727 00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:56,756 as fierce warriors painted blue, 728 00:36:56,756 --> 00:36:58,842 charging into battle on chariots. 729 00:36:58,842 --> 00:37:02,303 You can see why the Romans may have called any 730 00:37:02,303 --> 00:37:04,848 of the bulkier Britons giants. 731 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,438 we first brought to you in a previous season. 732 00:37:12,605 --> 00:37:16,526 On April 26, 2013, in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, 733 00:37:16,526 --> 00:37:19,904 the crew of a United States Customs and Border Patrol plane 734 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:22,115 noticed this unidentified object. 735 00:37:22,115 --> 00:37:24,200 It looked like a metallic sphere, 736 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,911 and it moved quickly in a loop around the airport 737 00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:28,747 before heading out to the ocean. 738 00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:30,123 And check this out. 739 00:37:30,123 --> 00:37:32,292 It appears to splash down in the water 740 00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:34,878 before reemerging seconds later. 741 00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:37,881 - What's even more incredible is that it seems to morph 742 00:37:37,881 --> 00:37:39,924 and change shape, and then it breaks apart 743 00:37:39,924 --> 00:37:41,468 into two separate craft. 744 00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:45,054 There's no known Earth technology that can do that. 745 00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:48,683 This was a UFO that ended up turning into a USO, 746 00:37:48,683 --> 00:37:51,019 an unidentified submerged object. 747 00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:54,230 - [Tony] After this mysterious video leaked, 748 00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:55,690 a specialized team led 749 00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:58,693 by our own Richard Hoffman spent months conducting 750 00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:01,946 a meticulous frame-by-frame analysis of the footage. 751 00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:03,323 - [Rich] It's a credible video. 752 00:38:03,323 --> 00:38:04,824 The telemetry you see 753 00:38:04,824 --> 00:38:08,953 on the screen showing GPS location identically matched 754 00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:10,371 what you had with radar. 755 00:38:10,371 --> 00:38:11,748 There really was an aircraft. 756 00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:14,667 - [Tony] Hoffman also says the object is too small 757 00:38:14,667 --> 00:38:16,127 to be a plane. 758 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:18,379 - If you look at the individual pixels in the video, 759 00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:21,132 it's about 3 to 5 feet in diameter. 760 00:38:21,132 --> 00:38:23,635 - [Tony] Could it be a drone? - [Rich] A drone doesn't have 761 00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:25,637 the same heat signature at all. 762 00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:28,097 I mean, there's no heat from it. 763 00:38:28,097 --> 00:38:29,682 - [Tony] Maybe a balloon. 764 00:38:29,682 --> 00:38:32,519 - [Rich] It was about 18-mile-an-hour winds from the 765 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:35,730 northeast, and this object was going in opposite directions 766 00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:38,733 from that, it's clearly not a balloon. It's unidentified. 767 00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:40,276 It's not from any place here. 768 00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:44,906 - We initially determined that this video captured 769 00:38:44,906 --> 00:38:47,450 a genuine UFO or USO. 770 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,744 However, in March of 2025, AARO, 771 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,623 the Pentagon's All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, 772 00:38:53,623 --> 00:38:57,544 concluded that these are just a pair of sky lanterns, 773 00:38:57,544 --> 00:39:00,338 not a single craft splitting in two. 774 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,883 What did Richard Hoffman have to say about that? Plenty. 775 00:39:04,884 --> 00:39:06,845 - [Rich] You know what a sky lantern is? 776 00:39:06,845 --> 00:39:09,931 It's nothing more than a bag that's got a candle 777 00:39:09,931 --> 00:39:11,266 at the bottom of it. 778 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:13,017 Do you think a little candle at the bottom 779 00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:16,896 of that little bag is going to stay lit for very long? 780 00:39:16,896 --> 00:39:18,982 Its temperature is largely black. 781 00:39:18,982 --> 00:39:21,317 That says that it's got an even temperature. 782 00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:25,363 And would that little candle make that image look 783 00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,615 as black as it is here? 784 00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:31,661 No. So we got a lot of problems with their explanation. 785 00:39:32,537 --> 00:39:33,746 - [Tony] In their report, 786 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:35,707 AARO also claimed these objects never 787 00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,333 fully entered the water. 788 00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:40,670 It just appears that way. Hoffman vehemently disagrees. 789 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:43,548 - They came up with a term called thermal crossover, 790 00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:48,428 which basically is saying that the camera can't resolve 791 00:39:48,428 --> 00:39:52,140 a difference of temperature between the object 792 00:39:52,140 --> 00:39:53,474 and the water. 793 00:39:53,474 --> 00:39:55,768 So it becomes invisible, if you would. 794 00:39:55,768 --> 00:39:57,604 And you can clearly see 795 00:39:57,604 --> 00:40:00,273 that there's no thermal crossover effect here. 796 00:40:00,273 --> 00:40:02,901 That's clearly at a different temperature, and that camera 797 00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:04,152 is picking up on that. 798 00:40:04,152 --> 00:40:05,904 We're doing a lot more in terms 799 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:09,240 of our own independent investigations into this thing, 800 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,118 and we don't necessarily accept what they're saying 801 00:40:12,118 --> 00:40:13,786 as being legitimate. 802 00:40:17,957 --> 00:40:19,876 - So there you have it. 803 00:40:19,876 --> 00:40:22,295 Hoffman stands by his original assessment, 804 00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:24,505 and we stand by Hoffman. 805 00:40:24,505 --> 00:40:28,301 So we're keeping this one as a genuine USO. 806 00:40:28,301 --> 00:40:29,677 And that's our show for tonight. 807 00:40:29,677 --> 00:40:31,804 Thank you so much for watching. 808 00:40:31,804 --> 00:40:33,139 And as always, 809 00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:35,016 keep those cameras rolling. 810 00:40:35,725 --> 00:40:38,561 [dramatic music] 65186

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