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John Lennon and Yoko Ono were married in
1969.
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They remained virtually inseparable,
with one major exception.
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Late 1973, John Lennon moved out of his
home and lived with May Pang.
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She was a young woman who had been to
Lennon's personal assistant. What would
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you say to people who would say, you are
capitalizing, you're making money off
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John Lennon?
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I think it's very important that people
understand that time that nobody knew,
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and really I'm coming out to really tell
the truth and to straighten out a bit of
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history, which have been written in the
past, but it's been inaccurate, and I
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don't want other people to write my
story.
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My name is Mei Pang, and this is my
story.
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I'm a first-generation Chinese-American.
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I grew up in New York City's Spanish
Harlem.
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I wasn't black.
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I wasn't Puerto Rican.
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I was a minority among minorities.
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My parents had a hard life.
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They left China to live the American
dream.
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Because I was a girl, my father, in true
Chinese tradition, adopted a son
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and abandoned me.
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He made me feel unwanted.
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My mother had beauty, and she had
brains.
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She opened up her own Chinese laundry,
and not knowing much English, she named
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it the OK Laundry.
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Daddy was an atheist, and Mom was a
Buddhist,
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so naturally they sent me to Catholic
school.
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Dad fought with mom.
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I fought with the nuns.
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So my only escape was the music.
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While all other kids in the neighborhood
were dancing to Tito Puente, Joe Cuba,
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or James Brown, I was hooked on rock and
roll.
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Especially these four guys from
Liverpool.
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The hottest musical group in Great
Britain today is the Beatles.
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Has anybody guessed why the Beatles
emerged from its cellar nightclubs
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through national prominence? Ringo has a
sexy nose.
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They've sold two and a half million
records and they earn $5,000 a week.
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Have you ever been this crazy about any
other entertainer? No, and that's what's
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so amazing. We don't know why we're like
this.
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The London Times has carried the
sobering report that the Beatles may
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bring their Mersey sound to the United
States.
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Picture of it now is there was a ship
going to discover the new world.
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And the Beatles were in the crow's nest.
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And we just said, land ho!
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And we went somewhere.
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As for me, I was going nowhere.
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Stuck at home with my abusive father.
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My mother was my inspiration to get up
and get out of the neighborhood.
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To be an independent woman.
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I graduated Catholic school.
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I hated college. I hated going to
school.
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So at 18, I dropped out. I jumped on the
subway. I wanted to go look for a job.
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Next stop, Times Square.
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I was scared to death.
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I met a girlfriend at a big midtown
office building, 1700 Broadway.
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She looked at the directory and said, do
you realize Apple Records is here?
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I said, the Apple Records? The Beatles
Apple Records?
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Well, guess what?
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I'm going to go up and ask them for a
job.
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Anybody else coming in?
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From the minute I got off the elevator,
the place was busy.
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I found this woman sitting behind the
desk.
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This lovely person stood in front of me,
introduced herself.
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She was willing. She was ready. She was
a self-starter.
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She spoke for herself very well at age
19.
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And I asked, I'm looking for a job.
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Are there any openings? She said, can
you type?
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Yes.
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Can you file?
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Absolutely.
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Can you handle the phone? Of course, I
said.
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Yes.
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I was lying through my teeth.
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But the next week, I was in the music
business.
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Sadly, by this time, my favorite group
was history.
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And from London comes a report that
musician Paul McCartney has left the
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Beatles, according to a front-page
article in the Daily Mirror. The event
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is so momentous that historians may one
day view it as a landmark in the decline
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of the British Empire.
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The Beatles are breaking up.
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You had to either be a Beatle...
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and do nothing else.
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Beetles take up your whole life.
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That was the problem with it. I mean, it
grew into a monster. The beetles was a
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period of my life, you know. I've got a
long time to go.
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After John married Yoko Ono, they left
London for America in 1971.
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I came over to America and just decided
that I'd like to live here.
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And Yoko was going on to me about New
York. So the next minute we thought,
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hey, well, let's stay, you know, isn't
it great?
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When they came to New York, Apple
assigned them the youngest rock and
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roller in the office.
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Me. Hi.
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Hi. Hey.
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How did it start? Where did you meet?
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I was working for Alan Klein, who was
managing John at the time, and him and
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Yoko came into town to make two movies.
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I was so young and naive.
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I didn't even know what avant-garde
meant. The first film was called Up Your
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Legs Forever.
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Over the next three days, celebrity
after celebrity were paid a dollar each
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to drop their pants for peace.
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John and Yoko went last and showed a
little more.
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Everyone went silent when we did it. You
know, just, what are their legs like?
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Up Your Legs Forever by Yoko Ono.
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Directed by John Lennon and Yoko Ono.
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Production assistant Zee Narcota, Tom
Balasari and May Pang.
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It was my first credit.
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The second movie was called Fly.
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Dan Richter, an old friend of Yoko's,
coordinated the shoot.
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A woman is lying naked on a bed by an
open window.
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A fly flies in the window, lands on her
body, walk on her naked body, walks
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around, and then flies out the window.
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That's the script.
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I couldn't understand why she was so
still. Then they told me. I wish they
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hadn't told me. We tested a bunch of
people, and we finally found a woman who
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happened to be a heroin addict. And we
found that if we gave her a little
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heroin, she wouldn't move very much.
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John and Yoko always need people.
They're doing things all the time, so
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they need support people and people to
go get stuff.
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And so May was, you know, sort of
coordinating things.
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They asked me to catch flies in the dead
of winter. The only place I could think
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of was a kitchen of a Chinese
restaurant.
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We had an enormous number of flies.
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In fact, the credits are almost as long
as the film because there's so many
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people catching flies.
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John and Yoko returned to England, and I
went back to my death job.
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But then came a wonderful surprise.
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I guess Yoko really liked me. I guess.
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Because two weeks later, I was on my way
to magical London.
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Their home was called Tittenhurst Park
in Ascot.
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It was like stepping into a giant 19th
century painting.
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I certainly had come a long way from
Spanish Harlem.
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Tittenhurst was where I first met
Julian, John's son with his first wife
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Cynthia.
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He looked at me and he goes, May, would
you like to get in the golf cart? I'll
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give you a ride. And I thought, oh, how
sweet. I didn't think he was going to
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take me for a terror ride. Well, I think
any excuse to be a little cheeky and
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cause a little trouble, I know I was up
for that. So, yeah, I do remember taking
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May on the golf cart.
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I'm not sure whether that was the
occasion that I'd broken into a tree or
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not. But that was a lot of fun back
then, going to a place like Tittenhurst
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and then seeing all these people and
this mad house. It was a very, very
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unique situation.
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It sounds so corny to say that every day
was a crazy adventure, but it was.
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Our first project was a photo shoot for
their new album.
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Fashion photographer David Bailey was
famous for his shots of swinging London
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and all the top celebrities.
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And he actually asked me.
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to get in the pictures.
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I found the whole thing quite
terrifying, yet it was also incredibly
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glamorous.
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The next day was even more exciting as
the crew set up to film John and Yoko's
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new song.
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I did the clothes. I put all the clothes
on him. I made them look good.
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Let's put it that way.
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Yoko said to John, when you sing, I want
to hold your hand.
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People all over the world are hearing
that.
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Why don't you say something important?
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Then John began playing the first chords
on the piano.
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It just sent a chill because it was so
simple and it was so beautiful.
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That's when I heard Imagine for the
first time.
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Imagine all the people.
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I realized they wanted people to
understand it was more than just a song.
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It was a message for a better world.
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The only answer for me, if there is any
answers to anything, is love.
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When we returned to New York, John and
Yoko asked me to leave APCO.
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and become their full-time assistant.
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I was thrilled.
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We immediately took over a whole floor
at the elegant St. Regis Hotel.
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I felt like I was living someone else's
life.
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That's what happens at quarter to.
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Tonight with special guest, John Lennon
and Yoko Ono.
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Let it down, babe.
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Let us know when you're through voting.
That's me in the bag talking to Dick
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Cavett. We were trying to make a point.
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You can't be prejudiced against someone
you can't see.
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Are you a lady?
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Yes, I am.
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Would you hold where you are for just a
moment?
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Just stay where you are. I'm offering
you a glass of water.
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I don't drink water.
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You don't drink water? You look very
nice. Yes, you're looking a little pale,
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but very nice.
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What kinds of things would you do on a
daily basis? On a daily basis, how about
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the grocery shopping, taking care of
everything, working in the studio, the
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production assistant, doing clothes,
doing the publicity, answering the
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phones.
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John hadn't spoken with his son for two
years, when one day...
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I took a call from Julian.
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He said, I'd like to speak to my dad.
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But all calls had to be vetted first by
Yoko.
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This is Yoko.
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So I said, Julian's on the line. The
first words out of her mouth was, you
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got to get rid of the call.
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This call never happened.
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And I was just really taken aback to go
into that call and say, I'm sorry, your
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father's not here.
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Julian again called back a week or two
later. And again, I wasn't allowed to
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put the call through. And finally,
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At one point, I said, Yoko, it's Julian
again.
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And she said, you can put the call
through.
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But if John should ask you, is this the
first time he's called? You say, yes. I
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buzzed John.
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Julian's on the line.
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And he said, is this the first time he's
called?
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And I said, yes. I had to line.
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But what could I do? Yoko was my boss.
But then, so was John.
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So I lied to John.
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And I lied to Julian, and it hurt.
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Yoko was using me, simple as that.
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And not for the last time.
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Yoko sat in that very chair.
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A few weeks later, George Harrison
invited me to another taping of the
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Tkavitch Show.
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I saw the show. It was very nice.
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Did you see that? Yeah. It was one thing
they forgot to plug, so I thought I'd
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plug it for them, and that's their new
Christmas record.
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We wish you a Merry Christmas. War is
over.
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Get yours now.
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John and Yoko were passionately opposed
to the Vietnam War.
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They understood that they could use
their celebrity to advance world peace.
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I always wanted to write something that
would be a Christmas record that would
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last forever.
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They plastered the declaration, war is
over if you want it, on billboards all
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over the world, from Paris to London to
here in Times Square.
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What we wanted to do was have something
besides white Christmas being played
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every Christmas, you know?
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So this is Christmas. John invited a
children's group, the Harlem Community
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Choir, to sing with him on his
revolutionary new holiday carol, Happy
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Christmas, War is Over.
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I was so excited to sing on this track.
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And for the first time, I made it onto
the singles cover.
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Right there, next to Phil Spector, of
all people.
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That year, I got a pretty cool Christmas
card from the Lennons. They opened my
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mind to things I never thought about
before.
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It was the beginning of my own political
awakening.
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I have an idea of how to get politics
across to the people, is to change the
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apathy that all the youth have. Our job
now is to tell them that there is still
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hope and we still have things to do. It
isn't over just because flower power
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didn't work.
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It's only the beginning.
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I like Give Peace a Chance for what it
was. I think one of the highest moments
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was hearing all those people in
Washington when the whole anti-war group
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was singing it. That was one emotional
moment for me.
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At the White House, John was labeled an
enemy of the people, an
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angry anti-war radical.
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And a threat to President Nixon's
re-election.
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When somebody in show business comes and
participates in a political rally,
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he or she is doing something that is a
very great personal
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sacrifice and even a personal risk.
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It was obvious Nixon wanted John out of
the country. Do you think that you will
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be deported? I have no idea. Maybe it's
just a process.
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When I walked out of the courtroom, I
couldn't believe the scene outside.
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You don't think there's any possibility
that the government is trying to harass
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the Lenin?
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Absolutely not. He was a high-profile
figure, and his
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activities were being monitored.
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Oh, yeah, they picked on me. I'm telling
you, when it first started, I was
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followed in the car.
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And my phone was tapped, and I think
they wanted me to know to scare me, and
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I was scared, paranoid.
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Just when things couldn't get worse,
they got a lot worse.
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Nixon was re-elected in a landslide.
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John and Yoko decided it was time to
leave the radical hotbed of the village,
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as the government called it, to find
something more safe and secure.
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They chose a sprawling apartment in the
legendary Dakota on Central Park West.
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You know, it's secure.
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People can't get in and say, I'm Jesus
from Toronto.
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Changing addresses didn't solve their
problems. Just one thing was going wrong
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after another.
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John didn't take it very well at all.
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The critics panned the album. The
critics panned the concert. They
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basically hated it.
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George and Ringo's solo career was
skyrocketing, and John and Paul, they
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were feuding. He also said the Beatles
were bastards.
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And you didn't miss the Beatles? When we
were together, everybody's talking, it
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was wonderful all the time, and all the
press and everybody and the people all
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saying how great and wonderful, but it
wasn't like that at all. They were so
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busy being...
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John and Paul, they failed to realize
who else was around at the time. We
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don't want to be the crazy guy when
we're 50, you know. Here they are again,
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yesterday. All of this took a toll on
their marriage. And one drunken night,
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Yoko heard John having sex with another
woman.
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And then Sunday started to make love.
And I was just sitting, frozen.
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After that, everything seemed to be
falling apart.
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I've been John and Yoko's personal
assistant.
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But now, I was convinced I was about to
lose my job.
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I came to work one morning, and Yoko
walked into my office at the Dakota and
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said, John and I are not getting along,
and I know he's going to start seeing
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other people.
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and I think I want you to go out with
him because I know he needs someone nice
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like you.
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And it just sort of snapped me back into
reality, and I said, excuse me?
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I want you to understand, I didn't start
this.
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And she said, no, no, I know that.
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We've been having problems. And you were
a 22-year-old secretary at the time,
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right? Right. I've been working for them
about two, two and a half years at that
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point. How did you feel when she asked
you to have an affair with her? I was
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stunned. I didn't know what to expect.
Are you kidding? I can't do that. He's
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my employee. He's my boss.
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I said, He's your husband.
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And she says, no, no, it's okay. You
should go and do it.
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I want you to go out with him. I know
you'll be nice. I know he likes you.
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You'll go out with him.
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I said, no.
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And she said, yes, you will. And she got
up and walked out of the room.
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How did this come about? You know, I was
a naive kid.
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I was very, very young at that point.
You know, she started telling me all
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sorts of things. You'll be fine. And I
said, no, I don't want to.
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That's your husband. She said, no, no, I
want you to go out with him.
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She ordered you to have an affair with
her husband?
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Yeah, she thought it was the best thing
since I didn't have a boyfriend.
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Of course Yoko had her own version of
what happened.
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When Yoko decided to interview, well,
Yoko.
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Is it true that you arranged the love
story between John and his assistant,
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Maytan?
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Well. I don't know. I mean, I don't
think it was an arrangement. It was
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convenient for John to have an
assistant, and she was a very good
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assistant.
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A very capable person.
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I really didn't think it was part of the
job. I got a little freaked out. I
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didn't understand what was coming.
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She had some weird ideas before, but
this was, this topped it.
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You had no romantic feelings for John.
Not at the time.
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Yoko knew that John was going to start
fooling around on her.
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Right. Yoko knew she could control you.
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That's true.
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Yoko picked the safe choice.
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Here, John, go have some fun with May,
knowing that she could reel him back in
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anytime she wanted.
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She was, as you paint her, Yoko Ono,
trying to control the affair, control
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John, control you.
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And she continued to encourage you.
Right.
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Yoko set it up, John's wife. She
actually virtually insisted.
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Why did you do it?
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John, in the end, pursued me.
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We started to spend a lot of time
together at the studio, alone.
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He began to flirt and pay more attention
to me. When we got into the elevator
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when we were going to the recording
studio, he turned around and he grabbed
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me and he kissed me. And I said, just
stand over there. I said, don't do this
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to me.
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And he said, because I've been waiting
to do this all day.
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I've been asked a million times, what
happened?
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What changed since you told Yoko no?
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Well, what happened was, John.
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He looked me in the eye.
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He whispered in my ear.
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And then, he kissed me.
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And before I knew it, John Lennon
charmed the pants off me.
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After we made love, I started to cry.
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What does this mean?
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He said, I don't know.
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Next morning, John called me into his
office and did something that really
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surprised me.
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He opened up his guitar case and said, I
want you to hear something.
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Just like a willow tree.
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Just like a willow tree.
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A breath of spring, you see.
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A breath of spring, you see. She gets me
through this god awful loneliness.
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She gets me through this god awful
loneliness.
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I knew how much John meant to me. Up
until that moment, I didn't realize how
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much I meant to John.
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John and I spent nights together.
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And every morning I would go to the
Dakota and see Yoko.
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It was not a comfortable situation for
me.
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This myth that Yoko sent us to L.A. to
be together is nothing but a myth.
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But what really happened, one day John
said, we got to get out of New York,
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May.
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Just the two of us, away from Yoko.
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The whole thing was so spontaneous.
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We talked at noon, and at 6 p.m., we
were at the airport.
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And that, that's how the lost weekend
really began.
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When John came out to California with
me, it was like getting the shit out of
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both of us.
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Not to spend money. What about John's
money problems? I understand that it was
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all tied up in litigation.
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We were on an allowance of $3,000 a
month.
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Each Beatle was given $3,000 a month
until everything was settled.
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And it wasn't a lot because he had two
households to take care of, one in New
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York and one here in Los Angeles. On top
of that, Yoko cut off my salary. The
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minute we landed at LAX, we had very
little, but we didn't care.
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And we reacted like kids or teenagers
running around.
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He always knew that somebody would pick
up the tab or give him a place to stay
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because he was, quote, John Lennon.
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In Bel Air, where all the Hollywood
celebrities live, we borrowed a house
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from record producer Lou Adler.
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We love taking
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pictures of each other.
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I've got two tickets to paradise.
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Will you pack your bags for me tonight?
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I've got two tickets to paradise.
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I've got two tickets to paradise.
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John had a funny way of letting me know
when he was in the mood.
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People ask me how John was a little
lover. Okay.
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John was great.
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He was my friend. He was definitely the
closest
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friend I had at that time. And he, as a
lover, he was my teacher.
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John's doodle is a perfect illustration
of our morning ritual.
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Wake up, cock-a-doodle-doo.
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Then afterwards, cock-a-doodle-don't.
Although, with him it was all the time.
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Does that answer it?
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I came to realize that when John was a
Beatle, he only saw America from an
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airport, back of a limo, inside a hotel
room, or performing on a stage.
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So John wanted to do Vegas like any
ordinary tourist.
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We checked into Caesar's Palace and had
a blast.
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That's where we met up with Tony King,
head of A&R for Apple Records.
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I found a marvelous picture, all having
dinner in Las Vegas. And there's a
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picture of May and he and Mike Hayeswood
and I having dinner in the Chinese
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restaurant. And he looks great.
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John was more and more relaxed.
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And our relationship was changing and
growing.
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On the way back to L.A., we saw this
sign.
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Calico goes down, and John's going,
yeah, let's go.
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For John, it was freedom. It was for him
to enjoy himself for once.
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Nobody knew it was John.
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It was there like everyone else, a
tourist.
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In between, when we were walking around,
John spotted this bike, a Harley
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-Davidson Trike. He kept staring at it,
and finally I said, Why don't you go and
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stand by the bike?
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I took one shot, and on top of that,
he's wearing my jeans.
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A few weeks later, on my 23rd birthday,
John wrote me a card.
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Happy birth, Pang.
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Then he surprised me with the biggest
and fastest present I ever got.
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John bought me a beautiful orange-red
barracuda.
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We took it out for a spin.
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Look at John's doodle.
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It tells you what he thought about my
driving.
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I'm thinking, help, help.
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Later that afternoon, we filmed a
commercial for John's new album, Mind
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Games.
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101A, take two. Okay.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Her Majesty, the
Queen.
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That's our friend Tony King as the Queen
of England.
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Good evening.
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I've been asked to do this commercial.
It relates to a gramophone record,
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Mind Games, by John Lennon.
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Oh, dear, her majesty.
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At one point, John lifted up Tony's
dress, goosing him.
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I snapped a picture.
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Don't you know it?
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It became our Christmas card.
441
00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:45,790
We signed as a couple, John and May.
442
00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:48,030
And that was when he met Elton.
443
00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:53,090
Tony was sure his two friends would hit
it off, and he was so right. I've got to
444
00:31:53,090 --> 00:31:54,090
play Elton.
445
00:31:54,190 --> 00:31:55,450
No, here you are. It's fine.
446
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:57,230
It was great.
447
00:31:57,490 --> 00:32:01,470
John said to me afterwards, isn't Elton
a sweet person?
448
00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:09,150
I got to celebrate my birthday with my
John, Elton John, and the Queen of
449
00:32:09,150 --> 00:32:10,150
England.
450
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,000
It was the best birthday of my life.
451
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:22,540
Tony King made a great queen, a great
friend, and
452
00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:24,220
gave John great advice.
453
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,740
Just let people know that you're around
and you're okay.
454
00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:30,420
You know how likable you are. People
have felt up until now that you've been
455
00:32:30,420 --> 00:32:32,480
rather an angry, radical type of person.
456
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,220
What John's point should do is get
yourself known by people again and do
457
00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:38,140
some interviews with American trade, you
know.
458
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,700
John loved water.
459
00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:43,930
So his first TV interview was at the
beach in Malibu.
460
00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:49,090
Just a fish head. Go away, go away. I
watched as he returned to his old,
461
00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:50,830
witty, playful self.
462
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:55,750
Testing one, two, three, four, five,
six, seven. You never seem to ever
463
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:58,250
really get away from your political
experiences.
464
00:32:58,470 --> 00:33:02,830
Do you find you becoming more and more
political as life goes on, and your
465
00:33:02,830 --> 00:33:04,950
music and your personal life, or less
political?
466
00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:07,470
I just change every five days.
467
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,340
When you think back to that period of
time known as Beatlemania, do you miss
468
00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:21,280
it? We all had basically had enough, and
nobody knew how to say it.
469
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,800
That's why I say maybe we should have
finished it a bit sooner.
470
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,280
John was opening up more to me, to
friends.
471
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,780
He even invited journalists over to our
home. We started to do things that he
472
00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:34,320
hadn't done before, like interviews.
473
00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:37,740
Invariably, people were basket cases
before they got to the house.
474
00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:40,720
They couldn't believe that they were
actually going to be from Lebanon.
475
00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:55,780
What qualities do you think you had that
attracted John? What was it that he was
476
00:33:55,780 --> 00:33:56,780
looking for?
477
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,120
You know, I've said a lot of different
things, and I think we shared a lot of
478
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,460
interest together, especially music.
479
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:09,219
We can talk about rock and roll, because
I was a real rock and roller. I mean, I
480
00:34:09,219 --> 00:34:10,400
am a real rock and roller at heart.
481
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:12,120
Well, the rock and roll album, folks.
482
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:21,199
It started in 73 after I finished Mind
Game. And so I thought, I don't know.
483
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,960
I'm always in between takes with the
Beatles, too. They always jam those
484
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,480
songs. They're my favorite songs.
485
00:34:26,739 --> 00:34:32,080
Can't I have some fun instead of all
this writing my feelings in the songs,
486
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:36,380
you know? John Lennon writes new songs.
Is it about him or is it about Paul?
487
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,699
So I thought, I don't know. Who shall I
use?
488
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,440
It's a great Phil Spector.
489
00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:46,850
All right. This is one of the greatest
sessions of all time. And here we go.
490
00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:48,010
One, two, three.
491
00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:52,250
Jim Keltner. He was an awesome drummer.
492
00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:54,570
John used him on all his albums.
493
00:34:55,330 --> 00:35:00,830
We got with Spector to make a Phil
Spector type of record with John.
494
00:35:01,510 --> 00:35:03,030
Great rock and roll cover.
495
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:07,390
For the first time, he wanted to be just
a singer in the band.
496
00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:09,970
All right, I just want to sing. I don't
want to know nothing about nothing.
497
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:12,650
So we started the sessions and they went
well.
498
00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:14,310
John was the star.
499
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,040
But Phil Spector, he was the boss.
500
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:19,400
Hey, we got the man here.
501
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,760
What man?
502
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,560
Any fucking man. Let's go.
503
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,060
Phil was the master of the evening.
504
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,720
I remember the bass drum also on that
after that, you know, ringing.
505
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040
It would start off great. Feeling great,
sounding great.
506
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,460
John would be fantastic. But in those
two or three hours, everybody just would
507
00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:41,960
be drinking and, you know, doing it and
smoking and everything. So it would be
508
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,960
just crazy.
509
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,140
Phil? Phil was definitely out of
control.
510
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,000
It
511
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,800
definitely
512
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,640
got crazy, you know. There was 28 guys
playing at night.
513
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,680
15 of them were out of their minds,
including me.
514
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,600
And the sessions broke down.
515
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,140
Really bomb, you know. I'm not even
going to say what happened. Some of it
516
00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:11,140
was ridiculous.
517
00:36:11,410 --> 00:36:13,710
You can't yell war over his plane.
518
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:17,470
Please accept my fall. It's the only way
I can come in. It's your fault.
519
00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:20,870
Then they gradually collapsed into
mania, you know.
520
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:23,770
It's one way of putting it.
521
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:29,490
Oh, my God.
522
00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:31,590
Phil Spector just shot off his gun.
523
00:36:33,330 --> 00:36:35,610
If you're going to shoot, shoot me.
524
00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:38,070
But don't fuck with me ears, man.
525
00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:39,540
I need them.
526
00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:42,000
I'm going to write your history, so be
careful.
527
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,340
That's when the session ended. And, God,
the chaos began.
528
00:36:51,620 --> 00:36:58,200
Phil told me to get in the Cadillac with
John, and he was just
529
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,200
screaming.
530
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,620
We raced back to the house.
531
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,280
He was screaming bloody murder. Things
didn't exactly improve when we got home.
532
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:09,200
It actually got worse.
533
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,480
He went crazy in the house and destroyed
everything.
534
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,800
So then, May was on the telephone. It
was very hysterical when she was saying,
535
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,920
you've got to come over.
536
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,860
John's going mad. He's acting like a
madman in the house. He's smacking the
537
00:37:23,860 --> 00:37:24,860
place up.
538
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,700
Thank God, Tony arrived.
539
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:30,640
And there, at the doorstep, is John.
540
00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:33,060
Screaming and shouting.
541
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,900
The only way I knew how to handle it was
I just went up and I put my arm down.
542
00:37:36,910 --> 00:37:37,848
And he cried.
543
00:37:37,850 --> 00:37:40,470
Instantly. He just broke down and wept.
544
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:44,830
Did he become physically abusive to you?
545
00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:47,730
He did a couple of times, yeah. Knock
you around a bit?
546
00:37:48,010 --> 00:37:49,530
He threw me against the wall.
547
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:57,150
The only things I regret in life are
hurting myself and
548
00:37:57,150 --> 00:38:01,890
hurting somebody else. He didn't
remember the next day and he apologized.
549
00:38:01,970 --> 00:38:05,430
He even cried about it. No, I was a
hitter.
550
00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:10,970
I couldn't express myself. I hit, I
fought men, I hit women. Because I am
551
00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:15,810
absolutely a violent man who has learned
not to be violent and regrets his
552
00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:19,030
violence. Oh, she was treated badly. But
you know what?
553
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:23,590
She loved him so much that she really
knew that he was having a hard time. And
554
00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:26,450
she just cared for him, you know? John
was drinking a lot.
555
00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:31,010
Whether he remembered it or not, he
pushed me hard.
556
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,810
He was just out of control.
557
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:41,670
Instead of apologizing, he turned away
and said, I
558
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:43,070
don't think it's going to work.
559
00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:46,030
He was breaking my heart.
560
00:38:48,930 --> 00:38:50,970
But I wasn't going to take it anymore.
561
00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:53,590
There was nothing else to say.
562
00:38:54,490 --> 00:38:56,030
I left for New York.
563
00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:07,040
I was able to keep it together all the
way to New York City.
564
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:09,680
Until I got home.
565
00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:12,780
What was I doing with my life?
566
00:39:14,180 --> 00:39:15,180
No job.
567
00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:16,860
No money.
568
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,820
I didn't know what to think.
569
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Was my relationship with John over?
570
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,880
Eventually, I called Yoko to tell her I
was back in town.
571
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:35,430
Yoko insisted.
572
00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:37,870
You have to go back to him right away.
573
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:45,370
Cynthia and Julian are coming to L.A.
574
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:48,010
He can't deal with them by himself.
575
00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:51,410
He needs you. To do what?
576
00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:53,510
Make everything nice?
577
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:57,090
I'm the girlfriend who's supposed to
deal with the ex-wife.
578
00:39:57,370 --> 00:40:00,450
The current wife. The son of the
ex-wife.
579
00:40:00,990 --> 00:40:03,810
And I don't even think I'm the
girlfriend anymore.
580
00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:07,730
And then it occurred to me.
581
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:10,530
John was trying to get me back.
582
00:40:11,530 --> 00:40:13,530
He couldn't ask me himself.
583
00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:17,950
He had to get Yoko to do it for him.
584
00:40:19,850 --> 00:40:21,850
I agreed to fly back to L.A.
585
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:26,930
just in time to be with John when Julian
and Cynthia arrived.
586
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:32,010
Where was son Julian all this time? He
had some difficulties with that
587
00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:35,990
relationship, didn't he? Yeah, he hadn't
seen his son in three years, and he
588
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:37,210
finally showed up here.
589
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:43,990
He had felt so guilty not seeing him,
and I was being in the middle trying to
590
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:45,550
put that two together.
591
00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:50,390
I hadn't seen him for a long, long time.
I'd had the occasional phone call. I was
592
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:54,710
scared. I just didn't know what I was
going to come up against, and it was
593
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:56,750
nerve-wracking for the first day or so.
594
00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:02,290
But with May being around, that eased
any tensions that were there.
595
00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:07,010
I think May made that a lot easier for
me as a young kid.
596
00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:09,210
And he finally got a chance to see his
son.
597
00:41:09,710 --> 00:41:12,750
And he said, my God, he's a little man.
He can talk to me.
598
00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:13,970
And I said, yeah.
599
00:41:14,570 --> 00:41:19,470
I recall, you know, hanging out with May
a lot at that point in time. She was
600
00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:20,690
very playful.
601
00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:24,590
We always had a smile on our face. We
were always giggling and playing around.
602
00:41:24,770 --> 00:41:26,570
Even Dad seemed...
603
00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:30,770
A lot lighter in himself and a lot
happier in himself.
604
00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:38,830
I became the official tour guide.
605
00:41:39,070 --> 00:41:42,350
I started taking more responsibility for
our little group.
606
00:41:42,730 --> 00:41:45,830
Especially the trip that we did to
Disneyland.
607
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:50,330
Gone to heaven on that one. I still
remember it fondly.
608
00:41:50,590 --> 00:41:52,970
We snuck into the studio at the
Paramount lot.
609
00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:58,180
where we watched them film Happy Days. I
remember Happy Days very much going to
610
00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:58,979
the set.
611
00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:03,660
And we walked in, and they were like,
oh, my God, it's John Lennon.
612
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:10,620
Julian Foote, when we ran into a very
young Jodie Foster.
613
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,500
And she was the same age as me, and I
was a fan even then, and we had a
614
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,060
picture taken, I think. I still have
Poloid.
615
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,300
John hadn't seen Cynthia in years.
616
00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:29,660
Since he walked out with Yoko, it was
still hard for John to face her.
617
00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:35,200
But I was hoping they could find some
kind of closure for Julian's sake.
618
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,740
May and Mum sort of fast became friends.
619
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:53,180
They got on very, very famously.
620
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:58,960
They enjoyed each other's company all
through the years. They understood each
621
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,880
other very, very well. Yes, due to, I
guess, the circumstance that they both
622
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,040
found themselves in.
623
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,620
I made sure that every time that he
talked to Martha every week, that it
624
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:11,520
would never lapse anywhere in between.
625
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,960
May understood, you know, Dad's
sensibilities.
626
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,580
dealing with his first young son and
having not seen him for a long time.
627
00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:27,000
When I look back, one of the things I am
most proud of is helping to reunite
628
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,200
Julian with his dad.
629
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:38,360
Yoko called incessantly. She wanted a
full report.
630
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:44,200
She was constantly calling every day, 10
calls a day, 15 calls a day. She always
631
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,118
called us.
632
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,380
Fine, she used to call me at 3 in the
morning, 4 in the morning, 6 in the
633
00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:49,380
morning, whatever hour.
634
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,500
Yoko never left them alone.
635
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,460
They would say, oh, Yoko called again.
636
00:43:54,780 --> 00:43:59,100
Mae, she was very protective of John.
She didn't feel threatened by Yoko.
637
00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:00,940
Please welcome Mae Pang.
638
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:04,220
She did not realize it was going to turn
into such a big love affair.
639
00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:06,680
She thought it would be two weeks, gone,
goodbye.
640
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,440
Why didn't the marriage break up?
641
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,640
Why was it breaking up? It was breaking
up, and she even asked for a divorce,
642
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,380
and she didn't expect the answer to come
from John to say, okay, fine, let's do
643
00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:21,080
it. He realized that he meant it, that
she said, oh, no, the stars aren't
644
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,080
right.
645
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:25,660
She would have to find another way to
manipulate him.
646
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,200
On the other hand, John and I were
having a great time.
647
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,520
That last weekend that everybody keeps
talking about, it wasn't so lost.
648
00:44:35,870 --> 00:44:39,530
People feel more of John than they had
in the previous years, and he was out
649
00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:40,530
and about a lot.
650
00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:53,110
It was around this time John started
hanging around with a new crowd, a
651
00:44:53,110 --> 00:44:57,250
notorious bunch of musicians known as
the Hollywood Vampires.
652
00:44:58,210 --> 00:45:00,910
Started in L.A. at the Rainbow Bar and
Grill.
653
00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:07,260
Where every single night it was Harry
Nilsson, Alice Cooper, Bernie Taupin,
654
00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:11,180
Mickey Dolenz, Keith Moen, if he was in
town. John Lennon was an honorary
655
00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:13,380
member. The last thing John needed.
656
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,560
with a membership to a drinking club,
Vampires or Not. I was just hanging
657
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,960
around with Ringo and Harry Nilsson and
became a teenage gang. Only we were all
658
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,080
30. Meg was able to kind of navigate all
the different things that were going on,
659
00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:34,180
Yoko's phone call, John's drinking and
using during that period. And one of the
660
00:45:34,180 --> 00:45:37,020
reasons is she was the only one who
wasn't using drugs and drinking.
661
00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:42,690
So, I mean, she had an edge over all of
us. I wasn't drinking. I don't drink and
662
00:45:42,690 --> 00:45:43,649
I don't take drugs.
663
00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:47,670
So what happened is when we got together
with the guys and they would say, oh,
664
00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:48,690
let's go out and party.
665
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:54,190
And I'm the one standing going, I didn't
fit into that category.
666
00:45:54,450 --> 00:46:00,270
It was a kind of rehash of my youth
acting like a teenager in Hollywood, in
667
00:46:00,270 --> 00:46:04,390
public. John would always take himself
to the extreme for anything.
668
00:46:04,810 --> 00:46:09,940
I would do something dumb like... The
day
669
00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:16,600
began with Yoko's usual
670
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,600
morning call.
671
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:21,620
All I heard was one side of the
conversation.
672
00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:23,840
It started with, Really?
673
00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:27,140
Really. And ended with, Really?
674
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,200
Au revoir. John looked at me. He was
stunned.
675
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,620
She slept with somebody.
676
00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:34,860
I said,
677
00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:37,890
I think it's her guitarist, David
Spinoza.
678
00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:41,970
If you don't believe me, look at her
album cover.
679
00:46:42,670 --> 00:46:45,430
He's definitely more prominent than you.
680
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:51,450
Her intention was, in effect, to keep
John out of the picture so she can hit
681
00:46:51,450 --> 00:46:52,930
on the David Spinoza situation.
682
00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:56,890
I mean, I had no interest at all. But
she wanted to realize what it was. She
683
00:46:56,890 --> 00:46:59,490
wanted to produce a record and all that
stuff. That would be terrific.
684
00:46:59,730 --> 00:47:02,990
But as far as that other sexual thing,
we were together and then we weren't.
685
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,460
You know, my career is fine the way it
is. I don't have to go down in rock
686
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:07,060
history and guess what, you'll go on.
687
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,360
Later that night, we went to the famous
Troubadour nightclub to hang out with
688
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,360
Harry Nielsen.
689
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,620
It was a pretty big comeback for the
Smothers Brothers.
690
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:27,760
They were just picked off network
television for getting too political.
691
00:47:28,580 --> 00:47:33,340
Around the table was Jack Haley Jr., Pam
Greer, Peter Lockhart.
692
00:47:33,940 --> 00:47:35,940
Even Paul Newman was in the house.
693
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,200
It was the first night I drank Brandy
Alexander's, which was brandy and milk,
694
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,800
Paul. Oh, you certainly drank them like
milk. And I was with Harry Nielsen, who
695
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,480
didn't find there was much coverage of
me. Just a bum.
696
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,720
But anyway, he got drunk. And at one
point, he just turned around and grabbed
697
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:53,720
me.
698
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,040
And he kissed me.
699
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,440
And I'm actually struggling. No, I don't
want anybody to know that we're
700
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,030
together. And the next day, of course,
it was all over the newspapers and then
701
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:08,230
in Time magazine.
702
00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:13,870
So I got drunk and got rowdy with a
friend of mine, and I got thrown out of
703
00:48:13,870 --> 00:48:15,130
the club. We'll see it.
704
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:21,050
I'm human, you know. I was drunk in
Liverpool in the smashed bone boxes.
705
00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:23,310
It didn't get in the paper set.
706
00:48:24,370 --> 00:48:25,890
And then Yoko called.
707
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:30,970
Hello? And she said, I know May wanted
to do this.
708
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,180
And he goes, no, it was me.
709
00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:38,740
John wanted to tell the world that we
were together.
710
00:48:46,220 --> 00:48:50,440
The day after the Troubadour, we
attended the American Film Institute's
711
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,900
tribute to James Cagney.
712
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,840
Ladies and gentlemen, James Cagney.
713
00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:59,520
There were movie stars and paparazzi
everywhere.
714
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,120
Then John and I walked in.
715
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:12,320
It was a fun time. John and I were just
looking at all these movie stars.
716
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:16,960
And we go, oh, look who's here. It's Mae
West. And there's Paul Newman.
717
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:21,340
All of a sudden, we see this figure
walking over in white. And it's Mick
718
00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:23,140
Jagger. Oh, God.
719
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,920
We were like chess pieces.
720
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,860
He was in total white, and we were in
total black.
721
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:37,580
Then, Ron Galea, famous for stalking
Jackie Kennedy with his camera, captured
722
00:49:37,580 --> 00:49:39,500
us in public as a couple.
723
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,120
She gained so much strength during that
time. Her self-confidence changed
724
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,060
completely. She was becoming confident
about who she was.
725
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,840
She was just beautiful.
726
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:10,920
When she walked in a room, you couldn't
miss her because these long legs kind of
727
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,220
took off across the room.
728
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:14,980
John gave me confidence to express
myself.
729
00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:20,940
I wasn't just walking behind anymore. We
were the center of attention wherever we
730
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:21,940
went.
731
00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:32,050
They were seen around town. They did
things. That was not the way he had been
732
00:50:32,050 --> 00:50:36,270
in New York. So it was a much more
social life than he'd been living.
733
00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:51,010
To escape the
734
00:50:51,010 --> 00:50:54,690
attention, we took a road trip to Palm
Springs with Harry Nielsen.
735
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,960
But while we were there, bad news.
736
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,360
Phil Spector was holding the rock and
roll tapes hostage, and he wasn't
737
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,360
letting go.
738
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,260
Harry suggested, hey, John, why don't
you produce an album for me?
739
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,980
I was just hanging out with, you know,
guys, and all we were doing was getting
740
00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:28,660
drunk and, you know, waking up, you
know, sick.
741
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,960
So that's why I said to Harry, let's
forget this. Let's do something.
742
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,420
So John had this great idea.
743
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:41,020
He invited the musicians to work on
Harry's album and to stay together in
744
00:51:41,020 --> 00:51:42,020
one place.
745
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,940
He chose a house on the Pacific Coast
Highway with a famous history.
746
00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:49,240
The
747
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:56,160
minute you walked
748
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,780
in the front door, you got this story.
749
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:04,600
Marilyn Monroe met both Bobby Kennedy
and John Kennedy here and rendezvoused
750
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,560
with both of them. And, of course, her
ghost just stayed there. It felt like
751
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:15,240
it. All these people living in a house
on the beach formerly where Kennedy and
752
00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:21,260
Marilyn had been. John liked the idea of
making love in the same bed as JFK and
753
00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:22,260
Marilyn Monroe.
754
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,760
And we rented this house. I thought, get
them all in one house and they'll behave
755
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,760
themselves.
756
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,060
It was the wrong thing to do.
757
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,920
I arranged all the sessions, made sure
everything ran smoothly.
758
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,820
Harry, John, and I were listening to
playback.
759
00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:52,220
I was facing the door, which suddenly
opened, and I mouthed to John,
760
00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:54,770
It's Paul and Linda.
761
00:52:55,850 --> 00:53:01,210
John turned as if he had spoken to him
that morning and said, Hey, Paul.
762
00:53:01,490 --> 00:53:06,190
Paul asked, Is the session over? Yeah,
but we're about to jam. Want to join?
763
00:53:08,050 --> 00:53:14,530
And in that moment, five years of
animosity and anger simply disappeared.
764
00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:19,670
I jammed with Paul. I did actually play
with Paul, yeah. We did a lot of stuff
765
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:20,670
in L.A.
766
00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:30,160
Stevie Wonder came in from the studio
next door.
767
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,360
So there was 50 other people playing,
and they're all just watching me and
768
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,360
Paul.
769
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,820
Linda joined in on organ.
770
00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:47,480
Mal Evans, the original roadie for the
Beatles, and me, we grabbed the
771
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,400
tambourine, and the fun began.
772
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,680
This was the last time John and Paul
ever played together.
773
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:21,910
The next day, Paul and Linda came over
to the beach house. This was really
774
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:26,610
crazy. This was L.A. crazy, right up
there. Harry Nilsson, who was a lovely,
775
00:54:26,730 --> 00:54:29,670
lovely boy, but went to excess.
776
00:54:30,290 --> 00:54:35,110
Keith Moon, another lovely boy, again
went to excess. John, same kind of
777
00:54:35,110 --> 00:54:37,830
thing. And the whole team of them making
this record in L.A.
778
00:54:38,290 --> 00:54:40,530
They told me, oh, Paul's coming over.
779
00:54:40,990 --> 00:54:44,850
Paul and Linda are coming. And that was
a big deal at that time because there
780
00:54:44,850 --> 00:54:48,350
had been a lot of animosity between
them, especially John and Paul.
781
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:52,740
And Ringo was there too. That was the
first time that John and Paul were
782
00:54:52,740 --> 00:54:56,980
actually going to sit down and have
civilized talk without lawyers present.
783
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,220
When I saw them together, finally, I
thought, this is quite a moment.
784
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,120
I snapped this picture.
785
00:55:04,660 --> 00:55:09,080
Little did I know that Paul was here to
deliver a message from Yoko.
786
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,500
I'd been asked by Yoko, Linda and I were
asked by Yoko, take a message to John.
787
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,220
I'll see if he's interested.
788
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,380
Took him in the back room like a sort of
elder brother, almost.
789
00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:21,440
Sort of said, you know, I'm the
go-between.
790
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Do you still love Yoko? Do you want to
get back with her?
791
00:55:25,940 --> 00:55:28,740
Here's how you do it. And just gave him
what Yoko had said.
792
00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:31,280
You would have to come back to New York.
793
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:32,800
He can't live with me anymore.
794
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:36,660
You would have to call, ask me out. I
want the romance.
795
00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:38,080
You'd have to send me flowers.
796
00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:40,340
Do it all again.
797
00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:46,020
I don't think that John Orme gave in to
her.
798
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,580
John didn't appreciate being told what
to do. He wasn't interested in Yoko's
799
00:55:54,580 --> 00:55:55,580
terms and conditions.
800
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,720
He simply said, I'm with May.
801
00:56:00,020 --> 00:56:06,080
And I thought this relationship might
have a real future without Yoko.
802
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,740
That's when I straightened out in the
middle of that album. That's when I
803
00:56:09,740 --> 00:56:14,350
realized there's something wrong here.
You know, this is... crazy man so then i
804
00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:17,530
suddenly was the straight one in the
middle of all these mad mad people i
805
00:56:17,530 --> 00:56:21,730
said i suddenly was not one of them you
know and i pulled myself back and
806
00:56:21,730 --> 00:56:25,590
finished off the album best i could you
know so then after that i came home to
807
00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:32,470
new york while i closed up things in l.a
the boys took their act to
808
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:33,470
new york
809
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:54,680
John called me every night.
810
00:56:55,900 --> 00:56:59,400
He couldn't believe the reception he got
in Central Park.
811
00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:03,040
He told me, come home, May.
812
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:08,640
I actually began to think our
relationship had survived the so-called
813
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,640
lost weekend.
814
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,980
I returned to New York.
815
00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:25,200
To my great relief, I found John clean
and sober.
816
00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:29,880
By then, I'd straightened myself out. I
was straight and, you know, no drink.
817
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,100
John decided we should move in together.
818
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,860
We ended up finding the perfect
apartment.
819
00:57:41,660 --> 00:57:47,580
Can you imagine? I was 23, and my first
live-in boyfriend was John Lennon.
820
00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:55,780
We had a view of the East River, which
reminded John of the Mersey in
821
00:57:55,780 --> 00:57:56,780
Liverpool.
822
00:57:57,140 --> 00:58:00,840
I remember the apartment very well. It
was a really small apartment. It wasn't
823
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,840
Tittenhurst, no. It was on the top
floor, I believe, and very steep stairs.
824
00:58:05,020 --> 00:58:06,020
The view was amazing.
825
00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:08,940
It was like being in a little bit of a
castle on top of the building
826
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:13,040
overlooking New York and the river. It
was a very, very special little spot.
827
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:16,960
We took the bedroom and we fixed up the
guest room for Julian.
828
00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:20,640
Everything, people always looking at
people like me.
829
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,220
Trying to see some secret, or what do
they do, what do they do?
830
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,840
Do they go to the bathroom?
831
00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:29,080
Do they eat? Do you? I do, quite a lot.
832
00:58:32,180 --> 00:58:37,880
It was an absolute joy and a pleasure
with just Dad and May, and it was just a
833
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,220
happy, happy time, especially in some of
the photographs.
834
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,240
You can see that May took of us, of Dad
and I together.
835
00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:48,880
We even had cats, Major and Minor.
836
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,720
Which John named after the black and
white cheese on the piano.
837
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:05,940
As an actual New Yorker, I show John
around real New York.
838
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:21,540
Wave or shake your hand, and I get
about, and I go to eat, and I'm enjoying
839
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:23,680
all the things I couldn't do for ten
years, you know.
840
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,300
I seem to be the guy in New York that
all the Englishmen say hi to, you know.
841
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,780
Oh, it's just good, you know, it's mixed
in town, Paul's in town, anybody's songs
842
00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:39,020
are lovely, you know. Paul McCartney,
you know, come over to our house, and
843
00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:40,920
Ringo, and George, and...
844
00:59:41,130 --> 00:59:44,630
Alvin. All these people had their best
times with John when he was with Mae.
845
00:59:44,730 --> 00:59:49,790
And Nick acknowledged that when John was
with Mae was the time that he got to
846
00:59:49,790 --> 00:59:52,830
really see him. Everybody saw John when
he was with Mae.
847
00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:56,870
The funny bit, we were trying to get in
touch with Paul and Linda for dinner.
848
00:59:57,130 --> 01:00:01,730
We didn't reach them. We left them a
message. And as we're coming up 64th
849
01:00:01,730 --> 01:00:04,990
Street in the cab, we look over into the
other cab, and it's Paul and Linda.
850
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:08,090
And all of a sudden, we yell out, and
the two Beatles.
851
01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:11,620
John and Paul stick their heads out and
they're screaming at one another saying,
852
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,760
I'll talk to you later. And as the car's
moving, they split.
853
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:16,160
And it's wild to see that.
854
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:21,480
John's favorite place in our apartment
was out on the balcony.
855
01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:29,660
And that's where I took a picture of Bob
Gruen taking his famous picture.
856
01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:36,620
I remember Dad and May showing me.
857
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:39,740
where they were on the rooftops and
they'd seen the UFO.
858
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,960
Loved the story and the idea that that
happened.
859
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,800
We saw a UFO one night and there were
two of us standing nude looking at this
860
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,580
thing with no noise, nothing.
861
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:57,140
Over here, up there, I saw a UFO and it
went down the river, turned right at the
862
01:00:57,140 --> 01:01:01,860
United Nations, turned left and then
down the river and it looked dark like
863
01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:06,160
black or grey in the middle and had
white lights, just looked like light
864
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,160
bulbs, you know.
865
01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:10,660
Just going up, on, up, on, up, on,
blink, blink, blink, blink, around the
866
01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:14,860
bottom. John grabbed an envelope and
scribbled a picture that looked exactly
867
01:01:14,860 --> 01:01:15,860
like what we saw.
868
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,880
Well, almost.
869
01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:28,060
John immortalized the sighting in this
liner note, and it became part of his
870
01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:29,060
legend.
871
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,920
When I was with John, it was the most
productive years that he had.
872
01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:38,180
Musical.
873
01:01:40,460 --> 01:01:44,820
I always was a record man, you know. I
mean, I liked the studio all the best
874
01:01:44,820 --> 01:01:47,200
once I got the hang of it and the
control of it.
875
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,520
Jammed with Mick Jagger.
876
01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:51,660
Worked with Ringo.
877
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:55,500
Elton John.
878
01:01:57,620 --> 01:01:58,620
David Bowie.
879
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,660
Would you carry me up to him?
880
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,160
Right?
881
01:02:04,580 --> 01:02:06,080
One thing I love the most.
882
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,940
With being in the recording studio,
doing production work with John.
883
01:02:11,380 --> 01:02:14,800
I earned production credits on some
major albums.
884
01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:25,460
I even sang backup on Number 9 Dreams.
885
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,380
We had met David Bowie through Elizabeth
Taylor.
886
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080
The next minute he says, hello John, I'm
doing the...
887
01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:36,169
Cross the universe.
888
01:02:36,170 --> 01:02:37,170
Do you want to come on down?
889
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:39,610
We sort of made this lick into a song
with what happened.
890
01:02:39,970 --> 01:02:40,970
Backwoods piano.
891
01:02:41,710 --> 01:02:44,530
And a couple of things like repeats of
Fame.
892
01:02:45,810 --> 01:02:51,070
Fame became Bowie's first number one hit
and the beginning of my special
893
01:02:51,070 --> 01:02:52,190
friendship with David.
894
01:02:54,910 --> 01:02:58,430
John wrote the song Goodnight Vienna
with Ringo in mind.
895
01:02:58,810 --> 01:03:02,190
So we flew to Los Angeles for the
recording and film shoot. During this
896
01:03:02,190 --> 01:03:05,910
time, of course, until Mace told you, he
was very, very close, in close contact
897
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:06,848
with Ringo.
898
01:03:06,850 --> 01:03:08,830
I'm more pleased that Ringo's doing
well.
899
01:03:09,790 --> 01:03:11,650
Ringo's very non-judgmental as well.
900
01:03:12,130 --> 01:03:15,430
He let John go through all that shit
that John went through without
901
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:16,430
criticising him.
902
01:03:17,570 --> 01:03:18,870
Ringo just loved him, you know.
903
01:03:19,370 --> 01:03:22,890
Is that Ringo Starr advertising his new
album, Goodnight Vienna, on Apple
904
01:03:22,890 --> 01:03:26,250
Records and tapes? It certainly is,
John. Why, you look so wonderful. Thank
905
01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:28,170
you. Thanks, John. It's a pleasure,
Ringo.
906
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:33,470
Making music with his friends made John
very happy.
907
01:03:36,010 --> 01:03:37,810
So did bonding with his son.
908
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:41,830
John couldn't wait for Julian to come
visit us again.
909
01:03:42,410 --> 01:03:46,690
Imagine, our visits to Long Island Sound
were some of the happiest times we had
910
01:03:46,690 --> 01:03:47,690
together.
911
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,500
It touched my heart watching father and
son growing closer.
912
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,120
I was very, yeah, I was very, very
happy. I think that's probably where my
913
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,960
love of water and sailing and boating
comes from.
914
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:06,260
We are a rock revolving around a golden
sun.
915
01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:11,940
We are a billion children rolled into
one.
916
01:04:42,670 --> 01:04:48,670
We are a rock revolving around the
golden sun.
917
01:04:49,090 --> 01:04:54,410
We are a billion children rolled into
one.
918
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:59,770
Saltwater wells in my eye.
919
01:05:02,890 --> 01:05:07,110
I had a fabulous time. I mean, you can
see in the film, happy as a clam.
920
01:05:07,250 --> 01:05:09,810
Smiling and laughing and having a good
time.
921
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,500
But there was always a dark cloud
hanging over our heads. The danger that
922
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:29,980
John could be deported at any time.
Every now and then they'll say, you've
923
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:32,980
got 30 days to get out, and then my
lawyer will kill them. Accompanied by
924
01:05:32,980 --> 01:05:36,540
his lawyer, John Lennon showed up at
Foley Square virtually alone and
925
01:05:36,540 --> 01:05:40,340
unrecognized until waiting newsmen
swarmed around him. Your defense must be
926
01:05:40,340 --> 01:05:41,340
costing you a lot of money.
927
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,280
Yeah.
928
01:05:44,380 --> 01:05:45,380
Is it worth it?
929
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,040
It will be. And then, some good news.
930
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:59,800
Because of the Watergate matter, as
president, I must put the interests of
931
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,800
America first.
932
01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:07,580
Therefore, I shall resign the presidency
effective at noon tomorrow.
933
01:06:11,140 --> 01:06:15,160
At last, John could finally feel at home
in America.
934
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,020
I like to be here because this is where
the music came from. This is what
935
01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:22,420
influenced my whole life and got me
where I am today, as it were.
936
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:25,820
I love the place. I'd like to be here.
I've got a lot of friends here.
937
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,120
This is where I want to be, you know.
938
01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:29,720
Statue of Liberty. Welcome.
939
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,920
I even brought my own cash.
940
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:39,160
With Nixon off his back, John was
thrilled.
941
01:06:46,780 --> 01:06:50,920
I kept shooting when a BBC film crew
captured John.
942
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,400
Celebrating Manhattan.
943
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:15,240
We were invited to the premiere of an
off-Broadway musical based on Sgt.
944
01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:16,880
Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
945
01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:19,200
It was a mob scene.
946
01:07:24,110 --> 01:07:25,230
We took our seats.
947
01:07:27,170 --> 01:07:32,070
And then, out of the blue, Yoko showed
up.
948
01:07:32,650 --> 01:07:36,170
I whispered to John, Do you want me to
give up my seat?
949
01:07:36,730 --> 01:07:40,070
He bluntly said, No.
950
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:41,950
Have her sit in the back.
951
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:47,930
Watching the stage, it was like a
circus.
952
01:07:49,070 --> 01:07:51,770
It reminded me of the Magical Mystery
Tour.
953
01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:54,170
They had all those crazy outfits.
954
01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:59,030
John turns to me and goes, this is so
fucking weird.
955
01:08:03,110 --> 01:08:07,970
Once the show was over, we ran right off
to the party at the Hippopotamus Club.
956
01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:09,870
I've got to be honest with you.
957
01:08:10,830 --> 01:08:17,029
The first time that I went to Hippo with
John, we came in, sat down,
958
01:08:17,170 --> 01:08:19,050
fully expecting to see Yoko.
959
01:08:21,950 --> 01:08:27,330
And there was this young, pretty girl
there, and I thought, oh, press agent,
960
01:08:27,529 --> 01:08:31,330
you know, with him. And then I noticed
that it was a little more than that.
961
01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:43,830
John was always attracted to strong
women.
962
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:54,210
Sitting in the back of the theater
didn't sit well with Yoko.
963
01:08:57,529 --> 01:09:00,250
She told me, she's something you've
taken John back.
964
01:09:02,029 --> 01:09:03,069
And I said, what?
965
01:09:03,350 --> 01:09:05,189
She said, something you've taken him
back.
966
01:09:07,649 --> 01:09:09,870
She had no explanation. She said, I
think it's time.
967
01:09:14,609 --> 01:09:19,870
At this point, John was determined to
get back into the studio to complete the
968
01:09:19,870 --> 01:09:20,870
rock and roll album.
969
01:09:21,180 --> 01:09:24,279
I finished it off, and I played it
around to a few people that weren't me.
970
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,700
And I played it to the record company. I
didn't know what to do with it. I said,
971
01:09:27,740 --> 01:09:30,800
I don't know whether to release it even.
I've got it off my chest. I've finished
972
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,560
it. And they all said, this is all
right. This is all right. Let's put it
973
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,700
out. I said, it's all right, is it?
974
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:35,979
OK, we'll put it out.
975
01:09:39,620 --> 01:09:41,340
He was a real media freak.
976
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,660
He'd sit in front of the TV. He would
have the music blaring, but the TV was
977
01:09:45,660 --> 01:09:46,779
on at all times.
978
01:09:47,340 --> 01:09:51,680
One night we were cuddling in bed when
John got the inspiration for a new song.
979
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:56,680
We were watching late night television
when all of a sudden the famous TV
980
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,960
preacher Reverend Ike comes on. If
you're looking in by television, quickly
981
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,680
reach and get a pencil or a pen.
982
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:06,560
Grab the nearest paper sack if you have
to.
983
01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:09,140
John was mesmerized.
984
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:13,940
Everything you do, everything you want.
985
01:10:15,620 --> 01:10:17,400
Whatever gets you through the night.
986
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,740
John kept repeating the phrase.
987
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,700
Whatever gets you through the night.
988
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:29,600
Reverend Ike's message became a hook for
a new song.
989
01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:34,260
We went straight to the studio to record
it.
990
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,580
And who happened to show up?
991
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,620
But Elton John.
992
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,600
He just popped into New York on his way
through and walked in the studio.
993
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,800
and said, hey, can I put some piano on
that? And I said, sure, you know, go
994
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,040
ahead. And then I said, look, while
you're here, do you want to sing
995
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,040
harmony?
996
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:59,880
From inspiration to creation to
collaboration, I was proud to be a part
997
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:00,880
of the journey.
998
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,760
Then we set out on the biggest PR
campaign in Capitol Records history.
999
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,700
You've been listening to John Lennon's
new album, Walls and Bridges. Thank you.
1000
01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:10,900
It's a pleasure, John.
1001
01:11:14,490 --> 01:11:17,670
No, I wouldn't want to be so
commercialist to hold up walls and
1002
01:11:17,670 --> 01:11:20,910
bridges, number one with a bullet, out
now with a new single, number nine,
1003
01:11:20,910 --> 01:11:23,830
Dream, at your local store. Thank you,
God bless you, and let's get on with
1004
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:24,830
business.
1005
01:11:25,090 --> 01:11:27,690
You just did the business. Oh, I did,
but it's good.
1006
01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:34,310
To promote the album, we stopped at KHJ
Radio in Los Angeles.
1007
01:11:34,650 --> 01:11:38,850
Good morning, Southern California, it's
619 and 62 degrees in Hollywood.
1008
01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:42,850
John was great at schmoozing with fans
on the air. I love the...
1009
01:11:55,139 --> 01:12:01,300
We were then invited to the Caribou
Ranch in Colorado to record with Elton.
1010
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:11,260
John suggested playing Lucy
1011
01:12:11,260 --> 01:12:13,780
in the Sky with Diamonds against a
reggae beat.
1012
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,760
While we were there, we went shopping.
1013
01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:26,800
John looked pretty good at the Liverpool
cardboard.
1014
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,580
Whatever gets you through the night
became a number one hit.
1015
01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:43,100
It was the first number one I had,
actually. I did not expect to get to
1016
01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:44,100
number one at all.
1017
01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:46,060
I didn't think he'd have a chance in
hell.
1018
01:12:47,260 --> 01:12:48,680
Elton made a bet with John.
1019
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,440
If the single got to number one, he
would have to perform live with Elton.
1020
01:12:54,580 --> 01:12:59,100
Well, I lived to get nervous about that.
In fact, I said, okay, it's time to tell
1021
01:12:59,100 --> 01:12:59,858
you Jews.
1022
01:12:59,860 --> 01:13:03,680
We got together in New York. It wasn't,
you know, and we talked about what we
1023
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,500
should do, and we had a rehearsal on
Tuesday night.
1024
01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:08,060
John was dreading the performance.
1025
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,600
But he was a man of his word.
1026
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,300
And it was time to pay up.
1027
01:13:18,980 --> 01:13:21,540
John hit his nerves by putting on
Elton's glasses.
1028
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,740
And there were plenty of glasses to go
around.
1029
01:13:44,940 --> 01:13:47,460
That night we took a limo to Madison
Square Garden.
1030
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,020
John was so nervous.
1031
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,520
Nervous? He was nauseous.
1032
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:56,680
That was Elton's big, big, big, big, big
year.
1033
01:13:58,580 --> 01:14:03,460
You know, the year when that's your
year, and his tour was unbelievable, and
1034
01:14:03,460 --> 01:14:04,720
he couldn't believe it.
1035
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,720
It had been so long since John had
performed live, he didn't know how the
1036
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,720
audience would react.
1037
01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:16,130
Because he hadn't been on tour since
1966 when it was four amps on the stage.
1038
01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:22,810
Backstage, we sat waiting for John's
cue.
1039
01:14:27,070 --> 01:14:29,370
I was more nervous than I was going on
stage.
1040
01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:34,930
Seeing as Thanksgiving, we thought we'd
make tonight a little bit of a joyous
1041
01:14:34,930 --> 01:14:38,250
occasion by inviting someone up to the
stage.
1042
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:49,780
And I'm sure it will be no stranger to
anybody when I say it's our great
1043
01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:53,640
privilege and your great privilege to be
here with John Lennon.
1044
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:59,480
And the whole of Madison Square Garden
shook as the ground was shaking and all
1045
01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:01,420
the limos were like bouncing up and
down.
1046
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:11,680
At John's request.
1047
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,940
I stood off stage where he would be sure
to see me.
1048
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:18,980
It was a magic, magic evening.
1049
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,440
It's just one of those magical things. I
mean, just completely blew my head off.
1050
01:15:40,940 --> 01:15:44,680
This would be John's last live public
performance.
1051
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,980
After the concert, I found a card with
familiar handwriting.
1052
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,100
And then I noticed Yoko talking to John.
1053
01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:55,560
And we just went to backstage.
1054
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,240
And John was sitting there.
1055
01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:02,460
And he looked at me, and I looked at
him.
1056
01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:07,840
And I was smiling, just kind of.
1057
01:16:10,340 --> 01:16:16,000
Smiling politely, whatever you call it.
She came over, she sent Elton and she
1058
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,040
sent John Flowers for the show.
1059
01:16:18,740 --> 01:16:23,160
She congratulated them and that was it.
And then we all went to the party
1060
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,160
afterwards.
1061
01:16:31,780 --> 01:16:35,400
Sportcaster Howard Cosell invited us to
Monday Night Football.
1062
01:16:35,860 --> 01:16:36,940
Now I've got...
1063
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,760
A most familiar figure and face for all
of you across the country here with me
1064
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,660
now. Of the original Beatles, Mr. John
Lennon.
1065
01:16:46,010 --> 01:16:47,610
John, nice to see you, John.
1066
01:16:47,810 --> 01:16:51,030
I want to move that up just a little
closer. How are you? What's been your
1067
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:55,050
view of this American professional
football scene? It's an amazing event
1068
01:16:55,050 --> 01:16:59,110
and site. It makes rock concerts look
like tea parties. But I must say, the
1069
01:16:59,110 --> 01:17:01,770
first thing I heard when I got in was
I'm playing a Beatles tune yesterday,
1070
01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:03,090
which cheered me up no end.
1071
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:05,650
Will the Beatles ever reunite?
1072
01:17:05,890 --> 01:17:09,390
You never know. You never know. I mean,
it's always in the wind. If it looked
1073
01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:10,930
like this, it might be worth doing,
right?
1074
01:17:13,629 --> 01:17:18,010
Ironically, two weeks later, at the
Plaza Hotel, arrangements were made
1075
01:17:18,010 --> 01:17:20,270
officially dissolving the Beatles.
1076
01:17:22,110 --> 01:17:25,610
Closing was scheduled at the Plaza
Hotel, a big meeting room.
1077
01:17:26,170 --> 01:17:31,490
Paul and Linda in the corner filming it,
George walking around the table, and
1078
01:17:31,490 --> 01:17:33,750
they're saying to me, where's John?
1079
01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:38,510
And I spoke with May initially, and she
put John on the phone. She said, John,
1080
01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:41,630
where are you? He said, I'm not coming.
The stars aren't right.
1081
01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:43,300
I wasn't going to argue with him.
1082
01:17:43,820 --> 01:17:45,520
Yoko told him not to sign.
1083
01:17:45,940 --> 01:17:48,480
Ha! The stars weren't right.
1084
01:17:53,220 --> 01:17:55,460
We had a well-timed visit from Julian.
1085
01:17:56,140 --> 01:17:58,480
The three of us escaped to Florida.
1086
01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:04,960
At Disney World, I was there on the most
crowded day of the year, around
1087
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,420
Christmas, I think.
1088
01:18:07,180 --> 01:18:11,460
And people didn't bother me because I
was just one in a million people. I was
1089
01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:12,460
just crushed up.
1090
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,700
But seeing him is good, you know.
1091
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,720
After a few days of unwinding, John
finally sat down to sign the contracts.
1092
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,280
Linda McCartney had photographed Paul
and George signing in New York.
1093
01:18:31,820 --> 01:18:35,300
So John said to me, May, get the camera.
1094
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,880
Be my Linda.
1095
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:50,200
And that's how the Beatles, who started
at the Cavern Club in Liverpool, finally
1096
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,900
ended at Disney World.
1097
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:00,900
With the stroke of a pen, the Beatles
were no more.
1098
01:19:09,670 --> 01:19:11,650
1975 got off to a great start.
1099
01:19:12,370 --> 01:19:16,510
John and I were back in New York. At one
point, he asked me, he goes, you know, I
1100
01:19:16,510 --> 01:19:20,390
was thinking, I wonder what it would be
like if I started to write with Paul
1101
01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:21,550
again. What do you think?
1102
01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:25,190
And I said to him, I said, are you
crazy? I said, it would be great. We
1103
01:19:25,190 --> 01:19:28,530
might do bits together, you know, we
don't know yet. There's every chance we
1104
01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:31,870
might just feel like getting together
and doing something, you know. And the
1105
01:19:31,870 --> 01:19:33,490
Beatles were back on the chart.
1106
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,720
We all have albums, singles, everything.
1107
01:19:37,980 --> 01:19:39,980
Zooming up the charts, folks, isn't that
nice?
1108
01:19:40,740 --> 01:19:41,740
Separately, but together.
1109
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,740
I was the anchor at WPDI-TV in
Philadelphia.
1110
01:19:49,580 --> 01:19:53,320
Well, Larry Kane from way back when.
Traveling with him with the Beatles was
1111
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,320
wonderful.
1112
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,740
John, more than anyone else, I remained
in touch with. And we invited him to
1113
01:19:58,740 --> 01:19:59,740
come down.
1114
01:20:00,140 --> 01:20:04,180
And he said, can I go on TV with you?
What would you like to do? He said, how
1115
01:20:04,180 --> 01:20:05,180
about the weather?
1116
01:20:26,559 --> 01:20:30,940
After the program was over, he was
telling me about this romance he had
1117
01:20:30,940 --> 01:20:33,000
with a beautiful young woman, May Payne.
1118
01:20:33,370 --> 01:20:37,010
And he said that we fell in love, and it
was really an idyllic life.
1119
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:39,870
I was deeply in love with John.
1120
01:20:48,110 --> 01:20:50,690
John often showed his affection with his
drawings.
1121
01:20:51,550 --> 01:20:57,850
He sketched my favorite animal, a
gorilla, sweetly offering flowers and
1122
01:20:57,850 --> 01:21:00,310
announcing, I've come for May.
1123
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:07,660
And here he imagines himself floating
peacefully through old age, pot-bellied
1124
01:21:07,660 --> 01:21:14,420
and content, surrounded by his favorite
things, his cat, his ciggy,
1125
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,000
his coffee.
1126
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:24,400
There I am, above the clouds, watching
over our little house with John as the
1127
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,920
walrus. He seemed to be thinking of our
future.
1128
01:21:28,810 --> 01:21:31,110
And it looked like heaven on earth.
1129
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,340
So everything was going great.
1130
01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:29,020
What happened?
1131
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,180
This is the toughest one.
1132
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,900
Yoko had claimed that there's this
therapist that, you know, can hypnotize
1133
01:22:40,900 --> 01:22:45,860
him and help him quit smoking because he
felt that his lungs were going short.
1134
01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:48,340
You know, he didn't hold a breath long
enough when he sang.
1135
01:22:50,440 --> 01:22:53,060
Yoko called up and said, John should
come home.
1136
01:22:53,380 --> 01:22:55,540
And all of a sudden I got this horrible
feeling.
1137
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:57,960
And I didn't want him to go.
1138
01:22:58,580 --> 01:23:02,620
And he turned around on the staircase
and he looked at me and he said, I'll
1139
01:23:02,620 --> 01:23:03,499
come back early.
1140
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,880
Whatever restaurant you want to go,
we'll go. And make the arrangement of
1141
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,700
going down to see Paul and Linda down in
New Orleans. Because you're going to
1142
01:23:10,700 --> 01:23:12,800
love it. Because I had never been to New
Orleans.
1143
01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:17,620
He turned to me, gave me a kiss.
1144
01:23:18,380 --> 01:23:19,500
He said, I'll be back.
1145
01:23:20,420 --> 01:23:24,140
And when he walked out the door, the
door slammed behind him.
1146
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,840
I had a strange feeling I wasn't going
to see him back here again.
1147
01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:41,860
So I didn't speak to him the whole
weekend.
1148
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,500
I tried calling.
1149
01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:48,780
And Yoko would say, he's sleeping.
1150
01:23:49,060 --> 01:23:50,060
He's in session.
1151
01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:54,120
Everything but then to get him on the
phone.
1152
01:23:54,640 --> 01:24:00,880
But finally, about I don't know how many
tries, I said, listen, you know how John
1153
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,860
doesn't like to miss a dental
appointment.
1154
01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:08,660
Please tell him. He's got one on Monday.
1155
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:16,160
And we met there. And we stood outside,
and I could see he looked different. He
1156
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,160
sounded different.
1157
01:24:17,940 --> 01:24:21,600
And afterwards, I went in one direction.
1158
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,920
I went in one direction, he was going in
the other. And I said, where are you
1159
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:27,920
going?
1160
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,660
And he looked at me and he went, uh,
home.
1161
01:24:32,340 --> 01:24:36,620
I said, well, home is this way, pointing
in the direction I was walking.
1162
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:42,560
And then finally he came over to me and
he said, listen, Yoko's allowed me to
1163
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:43,560
come home.
1164
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:47,420
Allowed? And I said, whose idea was
this?
1165
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,560
He goes, really, nobody just came up.
1166
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,040
So I knew.
1167
01:24:52,940 --> 01:24:54,180
That's not what he was thinking.
1168
01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:56,100
The week, week and a half before,
1169
01:24:56,860 --> 01:24:59,360
he was just, we were about to buy a
house.
1170
01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:02,160
We had gone out there. We even took
Julian.
1171
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,380
We were about to buy a house in Montauk.
1172
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,640
The next five years, I saw John.
1173
01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:22,420
On and off.
1174
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,200
And often we were intimate.
1175
01:25:26,060 --> 01:25:28,520
And I know it meant a lot to both of us.
1176
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:35,480
It had been about a little over a year
since I had last seen John when he
1177
01:25:35,480 --> 01:25:37,100
called out of the clear blue.
1178
01:25:39,380 --> 01:25:42,520
We spent an hour and a half on the
phone. I said, where are you?
1179
01:25:43,300 --> 01:25:44,900
He goes, I'm in Cape Town.
1180
01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:47,400
And I went, South Africa?
1181
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,080
He said.
1182
01:25:50,470 --> 01:25:52,610
We have to find a way for us to get
together.
1183
01:25:55,330 --> 01:26:00,090
Never would I have thought that would be
the last time I would talk to him.
1184
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:06,910
This is the CBS Evening News with Walter
Cronkite.
1185
01:26:07,670 --> 01:26:12,630
Good evening. The death of a man who
sang and played the guitar overshadows
1186
01:26:12,630 --> 01:26:15,250
the news from Poland around in
Washington tonight.
1187
01:26:15,820 --> 01:26:19,660
Former Beatle John Lennon, who was 40,
was shot and killed outside his luxury
1188
01:26:19,660 --> 01:26:20,760
apartment in New York.
1189
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:25,320
News of Lennon's death touched off a
wave of shock and mourning around the
1190
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,320
world.
1191
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,920
Devoted fans of John Lennon still gather
at the site where the former Beatle star
1192
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,300
was murdered Monday night.
1193
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,240
Visiting overnight was Lennon's
17-year-old son, Julian, who flew in
1194
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,240
from London.
1195
01:26:40,700 --> 01:26:42,060
That Sunday...
1196
01:26:42,590 --> 01:26:45,970
There was a little memorial, and I
didn't want to come out, but Tony King
1197
01:26:45,970 --> 01:26:48,030
and I decided to take a walk.
1198
01:26:49,770 --> 01:26:51,310
May meant something to John.
1199
01:26:51,790 --> 01:26:55,950
She wasn't just a little scrubber that
he picked up off the street.
1200
01:26:56,170 --> 01:26:59,090
She helped him through a very difficult
period of his life.
1201
01:26:59,390 --> 01:27:05,970
She coped with a lot of shit, and she
was a young girl, and her whole life was
1202
01:27:05,970 --> 01:27:07,710
turned around as a result of this
experience.
1203
01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:15,730
It never ended.
1204
01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:20,810
And so when it didn't end, life ended it
for me.
1205
01:27:21,210 --> 01:27:22,490
What happened out there?
1206
01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:53,130
what is one of your fondest memories of
may can you describe that the fact that
1207
01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:59,110
she maintained such a great relationship
with mum and the reason i got to see may
1208
01:27:59,110 --> 01:28:06,010
a lot more uh and the only i think the
main
1209
01:28:06,010 --> 01:28:12,810
reason i got to see may a lot more was
was because of mum you know and uh love
1210
01:28:12,810 --> 01:28:14,330
you and uh i love you too
1211
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:20,920
So, you know, that's, you know, one of
the key things, I think, more than
1212
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:21,920
anything.
1213
01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:23,380
Indeed.
1214
01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:26,160
And look at us now. Still here.
1215
01:28:26,380 --> 01:28:28,040
Still here. Still alive and kicking.
1216
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:29,300
Who would have thought?
1217
01:28:37,340 --> 01:28:40,120
When I look back at our so-called lost
weekend,
1218
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:48,620
When I think about my whole relationship
with John, I know I wasn't the only
1219
01:28:48,620 --> 01:28:49,620
woman he loved.
1220
01:28:52,940 --> 01:28:54,180
He loved Cynthia.
1221
01:28:56,860 --> 01:28:58,080
He loved Yoko.
1222
01:29:01,940 --> 01:29:05,980
And yes, he loved me.
1223
01:29:31,370 --> 01:29:35,130
the only answer for me if there is any
answers to anything is love
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