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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,790 --> 00:00:10,990 John Lennon and Yoko Ono were married in 1969. 2 00:00:11,350 --> 00:00:15,550 They remained virtually inseparable, with one major exception. 3 00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:21,150 Late 1973, John Lennon moved out of his home and lived with May Pang. 4 00:00:21,570 --> 00:00:25,690 She was a young woman who had been to Lennon's personal assistant. What would 5 00:00:25,690 --> 00:00:30,010 you say to people who would say, you are capitalizing, you're making money off 6 00:00:30,010 --> 00:00:31,010 John Lennon? 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,980 I think it's very important that people understand that time that nobody knew, 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,860 and really I'm coming out to really tell the truth and to straighten out a bit of 9 00:00:41,860 --> 00:00:46,940 history, which have been written in the past, but it's been inaccurate, and I 10 00:00:46,940 --> 00:00:48,500 don't want other people to write my story. 11 00:02:11,690 --> 00:02:16,470 My name is Mei Pang, and this is my story. 12 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:35,490 I'm a first-generation Chinese-American. 13 00:02:36,530 --> 00:02:39,070 I grew up in New York City's Spanish Harlem. 14 00:02:46,060 --> 00:02:47,360 I wasn't black. 15 00:02:47,580 --> 00:02:49,120 I wasn't Puerto Rican. 16 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,160 I was a minority among minorities. 17 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:55,040 My parents had a hard life. 18 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,040 They left China to live the American dream. 19 00:02:59,540 --> 00:03:06,340 Because I was a girl, my father, in true Chinese tradition, adopted a son 20 00:03:06,340 --> 00:03:08,320 and abandoned me. 21 00:03:09,930 --> 00:03:12,230 He made me feel unwanted. 22 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:16,450 My mother had beauty, and she had brains. 23 00:03:17,050 --> 00:03:23,570 She opened up her own Chinese laundry, and not knowing much English, she named 24 00:03:23,570 --> 00:03:25,010 it the OK Laundry. 25 00:03:30,050 --> 00:03:36,490 Daddy was an atheist, and Mom was a Buddhist, 26 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:38,950 so naturally they sent me to Catholic school. 27 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,300 Dad fought with mom. 28 00:03:42,780 --> 00:03:44,720 I fought with the nuns. 29 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,680 So my only escape was the music. 30 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,460 While all other kids in the neighborhood were dancing to Tito Puente, Joe Cuba, 31 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:04,180 or James Brown, I was hooked on rock and roll. 32 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:08,380 Especially these four guys from Liverpool. 33 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,660 The hottest musical group in Great Britain today is the Beatles. 34 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Has anybody guessed why the Beatles emerged from its cellar nightclubs 35 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,720 through national prominence? Ringo has a sexy nose. 36 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:25,320 They've sold two and a half million records and they earn $5,000 a week. 37 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,740 Have you ever been this crazy about any other entertainer? No, and that's what's 38 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:31,020 so amazing. We don't know why we're like this. 39 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:37,860 The London Times has carried the sobering report that the Beatles may 40 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:40,200 bring their Mersey sound to the United States. 41 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,780 Picture of it now is there was a ship going to discover the new world. 42 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,680 And the Beatles were in the crow's nest. 43 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:55,680 And we just said, land ho! 44 00:04:58,020 --> 00:04:59,560 And we went somewhere. 45 00:05:00,460 --> 00:05:02,600 As for me, I was going nowhere. 46 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:05,490 Stuck at home with my abusive father. 47 00:05:07,090 --> 00:05:11,530 My mother was my inspiration to get up and get out of the neighborhood. 48 00:05:11,790 --> 00:05:13,870 To be an independent woman. 49 00:05:14,730 --> 00:05:16,650 I graduated Catholic school. 50 00:05:16,970 --> 00:05:20,290 I hated college. I hated going to school. 51 00:05:20,650 --> 00:05:26,390 So at 18, I dropped out. I jumped on the subway. I wanted to go look for a job. 52 00:05:26,710 --> 00:05:29,210 Next stop, Times Square. 53 00:05:30,130 --> 00:05:32,090 I was scared to death. 54 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:38,460 I met a girlfriend at a big midtown office building, 1700 Broadway. 55 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:44,160 She looked at the directory and said, do you realize Apple Records is here? 56 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:48,540 I said, the Apple Records? The Beatles Apple Records? 57 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:50,300 Well, guess what? 58 00:05:50,620 --> 00:05:52,660 I'm going to go up and ask them for a job. 59 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,060 Anybody else coming in? 60 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,340 From the minute I got off the elevator, the place was busy. 61 00:06:00,820 --> 00:06:03,120 I found this woman sitting behind the desk. 62 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:06,910 This lovely person stood in front of me, introduced herself. 63 00:06:07,370 --> 00:06:11,410 She was willing. She was ready. She was a self-starter. 64 00:06:11,630 --> 00:06:15,250 She spoke for herself very well at age 19. 65 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:19,330 And I asked, I'm looking for a job. 66 00:06:19,650 --> 00:06:23,030 Are there any openings? She said, can you type? 67 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:24,730 Yes. 68 00:06:25,030 --> 00:06:26,090 Can you file? 69 00:06:26,530 --> 00:06:27,530 Absolutely. 70 00:06:28,130 --> 00:06:31,070 Can you handle the phone? Of course, I said. 71 00:06:31,530 --> 00:06:32,530 Yes. 72 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:35,170 I was lying through my teeth. 73 00:06:37,690 --> 00:06:42,770 But the next week, I was in the music business. 74 00:06:46,310 --> 00:06:49,570 Sadly, by this time, my favorite group was history. 75 00:06:49,950 --> 00:06:53,510 And from London comes a report that musician Paul McCartney has left the 76 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:56,950 Beatles, according to a front-page article in the Daily Mirror. The event 77 00:06:56,950 --> 00:07:02,350 is so momentous that historians may one day view it as a landmark in the decline 78 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:03,610 of the British Empire. 79 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:06,610 The Beatles are breaking up. 80 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:12,910 You had to either be a Beatle... 81 00:07:14,129 --> 00:07:15,790 and do nothing else. 82 00:07:17,470 --> 00:07:18,950 Beetles take up your whole life. 83 00:07:20,430 --> 00:07:25,490 That was the problem with it. I mean, it grew into a monster. The beetles was a 84 00:07:25,490 --> 00:07:29,410 period of my life, you know. I've got a long time to go. 85 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:36,510 After John married Yoko Ono, they left London for America in 1971. 86 00:07:37,150 --> 00:07:41,430 I came over to America and just decided that I'd like to live here. 87 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,200 And Yoko was going on to me about New York. So the next minute we thought, 88 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,920 hey, well, let's stay, you know, isn't it great? 89 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:52,460 When they came to New York, Apple assigned them the youngest rock and 90 00:07:52,460 --> 00:07:53,460 roller in the office. 91 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,080 Me. Hi. 92 00:07:55,460 --> 00:07:56,460 Hi. Hey. 93 00:07:56,900 --> 00:07:58,360 How did it start? Where did you meet? 94 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:03,440 I was working for Alan Klein, who was managing John at the time, and him and 95 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Yoko came into town to make two movies. 96 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,480 I was so young and naive. 97 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:15,440 I didn't even know what avant-garde meant. The first film was called Up Your 98 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,440 Legs Forever. 99 00:08:18,460 --> 00:08:23,420 Over the next three days, celebrity after celebrity were paid a dollar each 100 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:25,260 to drop their pants for peace. 101 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,080 John and Yoko went last and showed a little more. 102 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,419 Everyone went silent when we did it. You know, just, what are their legs like? 103 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,720 Up Your Legs Forever by Yoko Ono. 104 00:08:39,719 --> 00:08:42,039 Directed by John Lennon and Yoko Ono. 105 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:47,640 Production assistant Zee Narcota, Tom Balasari and May Pang. 106 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,060 It was my first credit. 107 00:08:54,260 --> 00:08:56,760 The second movie was called Fly. 108 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,680 Dan Richter, an old friend of Yoko's, coordinated the shoot. 109 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,340 A woman is lying naked on a bed by an open window. 110 00:09:07,020 --> 00:09:12,260 A fly flies in the window, lands on her body, walk on her naked body, walks 111 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:14,540 around, and then flies out the window. 112 00:09:15,260 --> 00:09:16,260 That's the script. 113 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,360 I couldn't understand why she was so still. Then they told me. I wish they 114 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,480 hadn't told me. We tested a bunch of people, and we finally found a woman who 115 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,560 happened to be a heroin addict. And we found that if we gave her a little 116 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:32,160 heroin, she wouldn't move very much. 117 00:09:33,580 --> 00:09:37,140 John and Yoko always need people. They're doing things all the time, so 118 00:09:37,140 --> 00:09:39,900 they need support people and people to go get stuff. 119 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,140 And so May was, you know, sort of coordinating things. 120 00:09:43,380 --> 00:09:47,620 They asked me to catch flies in the dead of winter. The only place I could think 121 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:49,660 of was a kitchen of a Chinese restaurant. 122 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,220 We had an enormous number of flies. 123 00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:55,840 In fact, the credits are almost as long as the film because there's so many 124 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,860 people catching flies. 125 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,220 John and Yoko returned to England, and I went back to my death job. 126 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:05,520 But then came a wonderful surprise. 127 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:09,180 I guess Yoko really liked me. I guess. 128 00:10:10,460 --> 00:10:14,740 Because two weeks later, I was on my way to magical London. 129 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:22,060 Their home was called Tittenhurst Park in Ascot. 130 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:26,280 It was like stepping into a giant 19th century painting. 131 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,400 I certainly had come a long way from Spanish Harlem. 132 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:39,220 Tittenhurst was where I first met Julian, John's son with his first wife 133 00:10:39,220 --> 00:10:40,220 Cynthia. 134 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,560 He looked at me and he goes, May, would you like to get in the golf cart? I'll 135 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:49,720 give you a ride. And I thought, oh, how sweet. I didn't think he was going to 136 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:55,680 take me for a terror ride. Well, I think any excuse to be a little cheeky and 137 00:10:55,680 --> 00:11:00,640 cause a little trouble, I know I was up for that. So, yeah, I do remember taking 138 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,680 May on the golf cart. 139 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:06,320 I'm not sure whether that was the occasion that I'd broken into a tree or 140 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,280 not. But that was a lot of fun back then, going to a place like Tittenhurst 141 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,240 and then seeing all these people and this mad house. It was a very, very 142 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,240 unique situation. 143 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:24,440 It sounds so corny to say that every day was a crazy adventure, but it was. 144 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,840 Our first project was a photo shoot for their new album. 145 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:32,720 Fashion photographer David Bailey was famous for his shots of swinging London 146 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,640 and all the top celebrities. 147 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,300 And he actually asked me. 148 00:11:36,860 --> 00:11:37,860 to get in the pictures. 149 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:46,980 I found the whole thing quite terrifying, yet it was also incredibly 150 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:47,980 glamorous. 151 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:56,700 The next day was even more exciting as the crew set up to film John and Yoko's 152 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:57,700 new song. 153 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,480 I did the clothes. I put all the clothes on him. I made them look good. 154 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,900 Let's put it that way. 155 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:08,850 Yoko said to John, when you sing, I want to hold your hand. 156 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:13,170 People all over the world are hearing that. 157 00:12:14,250 --> 00:12:15,930 Why don't you say something important? 158 00:12:17,110 --> 00:12:20,090 Then John began playing the first chords on the piano. 159 00:12:21,890 --> 00:12:26,270 It just sent a chill because it was so simple and it was so beautiful. 160 00:12:26,630 --> 00:12:30,230 That's when I heard Imagine for the first time. 161 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:33,990 Imagine all the people. 162 00:12:41,340 --> 00:12:45,820 I realized they wanted people to understand it was more than just a song. 163 00:12:46,340 --> 00:12:48,660 It was a message for a better world. 164 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,060 The only answer for me, if there is any answers to anything, is love. 165 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:04,360 When we returned to New York, John and Yoko asked me to leave APCO. 166 00:13:04,810 --> 00:13:06,870 and become their full-time assistant. 167 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:11,090 I was thrilled. 168 00:13:11,710 --> 00:13:16,890 We immediately took over a whole floor at the elegant St. Regis Hotel. 169 00:13:17,470 --> 00:13:19,970 I felt like I was living someone else's life. 170 00:13:23,790 --> 00:13:25,510 That's what happens at quarter to. 171 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:40,210 Tonight with special guest, John Lennon and Yoko Ono. 172 00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:44,230 Let it down, babe. 173 00:13:44,610 --> 00:13:48,370 Let us know when you're through voting. That's me in the bag talking to Dick 174 00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:50,510 Cavett. We were trying to make a point. 175 00:13:50,750 --> 00:13:53,750 You can't be prejudiced against someone you can't see. 176 00:13:54,090 --> 00:13:55,470 Are you a lady? 177 00:13:55,690 --> 00:13:56,690 Yes, I am. 178 00:13:56,810 --> 00:13:58,730 Would you hold where you are for just a moment? 179 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:01,410 Just stay where you are. I'm offering you a glass of water. 180 00:14:02,150 --> 00:14:03,430 I don't drink water. 181 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,320 You don't drink water? You look very nice. Yes, you're looking a little pale, 182 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:08,380 but very nice. 183 00:14:09,380 --> 00:14:13,620 What kinds of things would you do on a daily basis? On a daily basis, how about 184 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:17,300 the grocery shopping, taking care of everything, working in the studio, the 185 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:20,840 production assistant, doing clothes, doing the publicity, answering the 186 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:21,840 phones. 187 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,900 John hadn't spoken with his son for two years, when one day... 188 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,700 I took a call from Julian. 189 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:31,760 He said, I'd like to speak to my dad. 190 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:34,320 But all calls had to be vetted first by Yoko. 191 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:36,180 This is Yoko. 192 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,940 So I said, Julian's on the line. The first words out of her mouth was, you 193 00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:42,000 got to get rid of the call. 194 00:14:42,220 --> 00:14:43,940 This call never happened. 195 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,820 And I was just really taken aback to go into that call and say, I'm sorry, your 196 00:14:48,820 --> 00:14:49,820 father's not here. 197 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,520 Julian again called back a week or two later. And again, I wasn't allowed to 198 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,440 put the call through. And finally, 199 00:14:58,190 --> 00:15:01,470 At one point, I said, Yoko, it's Julian again. 200 00:15:01,690 --> 00:15:03,710 And she said, you can put the call through. 201 00:15:03,930 --> 00:15:09,910 But if John should ask you, is this the first time he's called? You say, yes. I 202 00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:10,910 buzzed John. 203 00:15:11,170 --> 00:15:12,170 Julian's on the line. 204 00:15:13,510 --> 00:15:16,810 And he said, is this the first time he's called? 205 00:15:17,210 --> 00:15:19,650 And I said, yes. I had to line. 206 00:15:20,070 --> 00:15:24,870 But what could I do? Yoko was my boss. But then, so was John. 207 00:15:25,690 --> 00:15:27,130 So I lied to John. 208 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,660 And I lied to Julian, and it hurt. 209 00:15:31,260 --> 00:15:33,760 Yoko was using me, simple as that. 210 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,760 And not for the last time. 211 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:42,720 Yoko sat in that very chair. 212 00:15:43,340 --> 00:15:49,600 A few weeks later, George Harrison invited me to another taping of the 213 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,600 Tkavitch Show. 214 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,640 I saw the show. It was very nice. 215 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:56,940 Did you see that? Yeah. It was one thing they forgot to plug, so I thought I'd 216 00:15:56,940 --> 00:15:58,980 plug it for them, and that's their new Christmas record. 217 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,840 We wish you a Merry Christmas. War is over. 218 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Get yours now. 219 00:16:04,620 --> 00:16:07,920 John and Yoko were passionately opposed to the Vietnam War. 220 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,860 They understood that they could use their celebrity to advance world peace. 221 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:19,380 I always wanted to write something that would be a Christmas record that would 222 00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:20,380 last forever. 223 00:16:20,410 --> 00:16:25,090 They plastered the declaration, war is over if you want it, on billboards all 224 00:16:25,090 --> 00:16:29,550 over the world, from Paris to London to here in Times Square. 225 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:34,430 What we wanted to do was have something besides white Christmas being played 226 00:16:34,430 --> 00:16:35,630 every Christmas, you know? 227 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:41,590 So this is Christmas. John invited a children's group, the Harlem Community 228 00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:46,890 Choir, to sing with him on his revolutionary new holiday carol, Happy 229 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:48,410 Christmas, War is Over. 230 00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:55,130 I was so excited to sing on this track. 231 00:16:55,470 --> 00:16:59,150 And for the first time, I made it onto the singles cover. 232 00:17:00,530 --> 00:17:06,190 Right there, next to Phil Spector, of all people. 233 00:17:07,130 --> 00:17:11,770 That year, I got a pretty cool Christmas card from the Lennons. They opened my 234 00:17:11,770 --> 00:17:13,690 mind to things I never thought about before. 235 00:17:15,339 --> 00:17:18,119 It was the beginning of my own political awakening. 236 00:17:18,540 --> 00:17:23,980 I have an idea of how to get politics across to the people, is to change the 237 00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:28,880 apathy that all the youth have. Our job now is to tell them that there is still 238 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,700 hope and we still have things to do. It isn't over just because flower power 239 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:33,700 didn't work. 240 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,840 It's only the beginning. 241 00:17:39,290 --> 00:17:42,710 I like Give Peace a Chance for what it was. I think one of the highest moments 242 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:46,570 was hearing all those people in Washington when the whole anti-war group 243 00:17:46,570 --> 00:17:49,550 was singing it. That was one emotional moment for me. 244 00:17:53,710 --> 00:18:00,690 At the White House, John was labeled an enemy of the people, an 245 00:18:00,690 --> 00:18:02,450 angry anti-war radical. 246 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,120 And a threat to President Nixon's re-election. 247 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:16,240 When somebody in show business comes and participates in a political rally, 248 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:23,160 he or she is doing something that is a very great personal 249 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,380 sacrifice and even a personal risk. 250 00:18:27,020 --> 00:18:31,960 It was obvious Nixon wanted John out of the country. Do you think that you will 251 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,800 be deported? I have no idea. Maybe it's just a process. 252 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:39,670 When I walked out of the courtroom, I couldn't believe the scene outside. 253 00:18:40,210 --> 00:18:43,210 You don't think there's any possibility that the government is trying to harass 254 00:18:43,210 --> 00:18:44,210 the Lenin? 255 00:18:44,730 --> 00:18:51,010 Absolutely not. He was a high-profile figure, and his 256 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:53,250 activities were being monitored. 257 00:18:56,210 --> 00:19:00,190 Oh, yeah, they picked on me. I'm telling you, when it first started, I was 258 00:19:00,190 --> 00:19:01,590 followed in the car. 259 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,780 And my phone was tapped, and I think they wanted me to know to scare me, and 260 00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:06,780 I was scared, paranoid. 261 00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:11,680 Just when things couldn't get worse, they got a lot worse. 262 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Nixon was re-elected in a landslide. 263 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:20,800 John and Yoko decided it was time to leave the radical hotbed of the village, 264 00:19:20,980 --> 00:19:25,020 as the government called it, to find something more safe and secure. 265 00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:30,470 They chose a sprawling apartment in the legendary Dakota on Central Park West. 266 00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:31,930 You know, it's secure. 267 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:35,110 People can't get in and say, I'm Jesus from Toronto. 268 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:40,510 Changing addresses didn't solve their problems. Just one thing was going wrong 269 00:19:40,510 --> 00:19:41,510 after another. 270 00:19:41,570 --> 00:19:43,190 John didn't take it very well at all. 271 00:19:43,390 --> 00:19:47,430 The critics panned the album. The critics panned the concert. They 272 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:48,510 basically hated it. 273 00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:52,710 George and Ringo's solo career was skyrocketing, and John and Paul, they 274 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:54,710 were feuding. He also said the Beatles were bastards. 275 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:59,580 And you didn't miss the Beatles? When we were together, everybody's talking, it 276 00:19:59,580 --> 00:20:02,660 was wonderful all the time, and all the press and everybody and the people all 277 00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:06,000 saying how great and wonderful, but it wasn't like that at all. They were so 278 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000 busy being... 279 00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:12,610 John and Paul, they failed to realize who else was around at the time. We 280 00:20:12,610 --> 00:20:15,930 don't want to be the crazy guy when we're 50, you know. Here they are again, 281 00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:21,270 yesterday. All of this took a toll on their marriage. And one drunken night, 282 00:20:21,490 --> 00:20:24,270 Yoko heard John having sex with another woman. 283 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:28,890 And then Sunday started to make love. And I was just sitting, frozen. 284 00:20:32,590 --> 00:20:35,910 After that, everything seemed to be falling apart. 285 00:20:41,770 --> 00:20:43,910 I've been John and Yoko's personal assistant. 286 00:20:46,690 --> 00:20:51,190 But now, I was convinced I was about to lose my job. 287 00:20:55,150 --> 00:21:00,470 I came to work one morning, and Yoko walked into my office at the Dakota and 288 00:21:00,470 --> 00:21:06,270 said, John and I are not getting along, and I know he's going to start seeing 289 00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:07,270 other people. 290 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,540 and I think I want you to go out with him because I know he needs someone nice 291 00:21:12,540 --> 00:21:13,259 like you. 292 00:21:13,260 --> 00:21:17,720 And it just sort of snapped me back into reality, and I said, excuse me? 293 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,980 I want you to understand, I didn't start this. 294 00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:22,840 And she said, no, no, I know that. 295 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,720 We've been having problems. And you were a 22-year-old secretary at the time, 296 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,420 right? Right. I've been working for them about two, two and a half years at that 297 00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:31,540 point. How did you feel when she asked you to have an affair with her? I was 298 00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:35,700 stunned. I didn't know what to expect. Are you kidding? I can't do that. He's 299 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:36,700 my employee. He's my boss. 300 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:38,640 I said, He's your husband. 301 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,740 And she says, no, no, it's okay. You should go and do it. 302 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,980 I want you to go out with him. I know you'll be nice. I know he likes you. 303 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,160 You'll go out with him. 304 00:21:47,380 --> 00:21:48,380 I said, no. 305 00:21:48,420 --> 00:21:51,600 And she said, yes, you will. And she got up and walked out of the room. 306 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,920 How did this come about? You know, I was a naive kid. 307 00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:10,100 I was very, very young at that point. You know, she started telling me all 308 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:12,980 sorts of things. You'll be fine. And I said, no, I don't want to. 309 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,660 That's your husband. She said, no, no, I want you to go out with him. 310 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:18,220 She ordered you to have an affair with her husband? 311 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,980 Yeah, she thought it was the best thing since I didn't have a boyfriend. 312 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:24,280 Of course Yoko had her own version of what happened. 313 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:28,040 When Yoko decided to interview, well, Yoko. 314 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:34,420 Is it true that you arranged the love story between John and his assistant, 315 00:22:34,540 --> 00:22:35,540 Maytan? 316 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,000 Well. I don't know. I mean, I don't think it was an arrangement. It was 317 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,640 convenient for John to have an assistant, and she was a very good 318 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,640 assistant. 319 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:47,600 A very capable person. 320 00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:51,100 I really didn't think it was part of the job. I got a little freaked out. I 321 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:52,100 didn't understand what was coming. 322 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,180 She had some weird ideas before, but this was, this topped it. 323 00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:00,340 You had no romantic feelings for John. Not at the time. 324 00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:05,040 Yoko knew that John was going to start fooling around on her. 325 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,300 Right. Yoko knew she could control you. 326 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:08,500 That's true. 327 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,480 Yoko picked the safe choice. 328 00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:17,060 Here, John, go have some fun with May, knowing that she could reel him back in 329 00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:18,060 anytime she wanted. 330 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,340 She was, as you paint her, Yoko Ono, trying to control the affair, control 331 00:23:23,340 --> 00:23:24,380 John, control you. 332 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,140 And she continued to encourage you. Right. 333 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:31,320 Yoko set it up, John's wife. She actually virtually insisted. 334 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:35,770 Why did you do it? 335 00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:39,810 John, in the end, pursued me. 336 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:47,390 We started to spend a lot of time together at the studio, alone. 337 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:52,590 He began to flirt and pay more attention to me. When we got into the elevator 338 00:23:52,590 --> 00:23:57,510 when we were going to the recording studio, he turned around and he grabbed 339 00:23:57,510 --> 00:24:00,250 me and he kissed me. And I said, just stand over there. I said, don't do this 340 00:24:00,250 --> 00:24:00,949 to me. 341 00:24:00,950 --> 00:24:03,030 And he said, because I've been waiting to do this all day. 342 00:24:12,620 --> 00:24:15,820 I've been asked a million times, what happened? 343 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,740 What changed since you told Yoko no? 344 00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:22,100 Well, what happened was, John. 345 00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:25,980 He looked me in the eye. 346 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,600 He whispered in my ear. 347 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,300 And then, he kissed me. 348 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,900 And before I knew it, John Lennon charmed the pants off me. 349 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,780 After we made love, I started to cry. 350 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,440 What does this mean? 351 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:52,480 He said, I don't know. 352 00:24:59,740 --> 00:25:05,060 Next morning, John called me into his office and did something that really 353 00:25:05,060 --> 00:25:06,160 surprised me. 354 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,660 He opened up his guitar case and said, I want you to hear something. 355 00:25:13,790 --> 00:25:14,990 Just like a willow tree. 356 00:25:15,570 --> 00:25:17,610 Just like a willow tree. 357 00:25:18,270 --> 00:25:20,070 A breath of spring, you see. 358 00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:25,650 A breath of spring, you see. She gets me through this god awful loneliness. 359 00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:29,390 She gets me through this god awful loneliness. 360 00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:34,990 I knew how much John meant to me. Up until that moment, I didn't realize how 361 00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:36,310 much I meant to John. 362 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,600 John and I spent nights together. 363 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,280 And every morning I would go to the Dakota and see Yoko. 364 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280 It was not a comfortable situation for me. 365 00:25:59,740 --> 00:26:06,020 This myth that Yoko sent us to L.A. to be together is nothing but a myth. 366 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:12,560 But what really happened, one day John said, we got to get out of New York, 367 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,640 May. 368 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:16,680 Just the two of us, away from Yoko. 369 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:20,980 The whole thing was so spontaneous. 370 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,400 We talked at noon, and at 6 p.m., we were at the airport. 371 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,840 And that, that's how the lost weekend really began. 372 00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:40,620 When John came out to California with me, it was like getting the shit out of 373 00:26:40,620 --> 00:26:41,469 both of us. 374 00:26:41,470 --> 00:26:45,370 Not to spend money. What about John's money problems? I understand that it was 375 00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:46,550 all tied up in litigation. 376 00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:49,390 We were on an allowance of $3,000 a month. 377 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:53,170 Each Beatle was given $3,000 a month until everything was settled. 378 00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:57,290 And it wasn't a lot because he had two households to take care of, one in New 379 00:26:57,290 --> 00:27:01,670 York and one here in Los Angeles. On top of that, Yoko cut off my salary. The 380 00:27:01,670 --> 00:27:05,870 minute we landed at LAX, we had very little, but we didn't care. 381 00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:08,830 And we reacted like kids or teenagers running around. 382 00:27:14,570 --> 00:27:18,910 He always knew that somebody would pick up the tab or give him a place to stay 383 00:27:18,910 --> 00:27:21,290 because he was, quote, John Lennon. 384 00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:26,770 In Bel Air, where all the Hollywood celebrities live, we borrowed a house 385 00:27:26,770 --> 00:27:28,750 from record producer Lou Adler. 386 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:37,150 We love taking 387 00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:38,370 pictures of each other. 388 00:27:46,090 --> 00:27:49,010 I've got two tickets to paradise. 389 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:52,830 Will you pack your bags for me tonight? 390 00:27:53,230 --> 00:27:56,370 I've got two tickets to paradise. 391 00:27:56,910 --> 00:28:00,110 I've got two tickets to paradise. 392 00:28:05,290 --> 00:28:08,730 John had a funny way of letting me know when he was in the mood. 393 00:28:10,930 --> 00:28:13,290 People ask me how John was a little lover. Okay. 394 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:15,700 John was great. 395 00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:22,740 He was my friend. He was definitely the closest 396 00:28:22,740 --> 00:28:27,580 friend I had at that time. And he, as a lover, he was my teacher. 397 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:31,580 John's doodle is a perfect illustration of our morning ritual. 398 00:28:33,020 --> 00:28:35,300 Wake up, cock-a-doodle-doo. 399 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:41,680 Then afterwards, cock-a-doodle-don't. Although, with him it was all the time. 400 00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:43,120 Does that answer it? 401 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,900 I came to realize that when John was a Beatle, he only saw America from an 402 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:55,800 airport, back of a limo, inside a hotel room, or performing on a stage. 403 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,800 So John wanted to do Vegas like any ordinary tourist. 404 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,040 We checked into Caesar's Palace and had a blast. 405 00:29:13,290 --> 00:29:17,010 That's where we met up with Tony King, head of A&R for Apple Records. 406 00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:21,690 I found a marvelous picture, all having dinner in Las Vegas. And there's a 407 00:29:21,690 --> 00:29:25,990 picture of May and he and Mike Hayeswood and I having dinner in the Chinese 408 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:27,910 restaurant. And he looks great. 409 00:29:28,350 --> 00:29:30,050 John was more and more relaxed. 410 00:29:30,950 --> 00:29:34,010 And our relationship was changing and growing. 411 00:29:39,850 --> 00:29:42,190 On the way back to L.A., we saw this sign. 412 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:47,620 Calico goes down, and John's going, yeah, let's go. 413 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,640 For John, it was freedom. It was for him to enjoy himself for once. 414 00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:56,100 Nobody knew it was John. 415 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,420 It was there like everyone else, a tourist. 416 00:30:00,740 --> 00:30:07,140 In between, when we were walking around, John spotted this bike, a Harley 417 00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:12,820 -Davidson Trike. He kept staring at it, and finally I said, Why don't you go and 418 00:30:12,820 --> 00:30:13,820 stand by the bike? 419 00:30:14,220 --> 00:30:18,500 I took one shot, and on top of that, he's wearing my jeans. 420 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:27,040 A few weeks later, on my 23rd birthday, John wrote me a card. 421 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,540 Happy birth, Pang. 422 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,820 Then he surprised me with the biggest and fastest present I ever got. 423 00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:38,880 John bought me a beautiful orange-red barracuda. 424 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,320 We took it out for a spin. 425 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,900 Look at John's doodle. 426 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,400 It tells you what he thought about my driving. 427 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,880 I'm thinking, help, help. 428 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,420 Later that afternoon, we filmed a commercial for John's new album, Mind 429 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:01,420 Games. 430 00:31:01,580 --> 00:31:02,860 101A, take two. Okay. 431 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,640 Ladies and gentlemen, Her Majesty, the Queen. 432 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,280 That's our friend Tony King as the Queen of England. 433 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,640 Good evening. 434 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:22,220 I've been asked to do this commercial. It relates to a gramophone record, 435 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,400 Mind Games, by John Lennon. 436 00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:29,800 Oh, dear, her majesty. 437 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,900 At one point, John lifted up Tony's dress, goosing him. 438 00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:38,800 I snapped a picture. 439 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Don't you know it? 440 00:31:40,890 --> 00:31:42,390 It became our Christmas card. 441 00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:45,790 We signed as a couple, John and May. 442 00:31:46,530 --> 00:31:48,030 And that was when he met Elton. 443 00:31:48,270 --> 00:31:53,090 Tony was sure his two friends would hit it off, and he was so right. I've got to 444 00:31:53,090 --> 00:31:54,090 play Elton. 445 00:31:54,190 --> 00:31:55,450 No, here you are. It's fine. 446 00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:57,230 It was great. 447 00:31:57,490 --> 00:32:01,470 John said to me afterwards, isn't Elton a sweet person? 448 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:09,150 I got to celebrate my birthday with my John, Elton John, and the Queen of 449 00:32:09,150 --> 00:32:10,150 England. 450 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,000 It was the best birthday of my life. 451 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:22,540 Tony King made a great queen, a great friend, and 452 00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:24,220 gave John great advice. 453 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,740 Just let people know that you're around and you're okay. 454 00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:30,420 You know how likable you are. People have felt up until now that you've been 455 00:32:30,420 --> 00:32:32,480 rather an angry, radical type of person. 456 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,220 What John's point should do is get yourself known by people again and do 457 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:38,140 some interviews with American trade, you know. 458 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:39,700 John loved water. 459 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:43,930 So his first TV interview was at the beach in Malibu. 460 00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:49,090 Just a fish head. Go away, go away. I watched as he returned to his old, 461 00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:50,830 witty, playful self. 462 00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:55,750 Testing one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. You never seem to ever 463 00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:58,250 really get away from your political experiences. 464 00:32:58,470 --> 00:33:02,830 Do you find you becoming more and more political as life goes on, and your 465 00:33:02,830 --> 00:33:04,950 music and your personal life, or less political? 466 00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:07,470 I just change every five days. 467 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,340 When you think back to that period of time known as Beatlemania, do you miss 468 00:33:16,340 --> 00:33:21,280 it? We all had basically had enough, and nobody knew how to say it. 469 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,800 That's why I say maybe we should have finished it a bit sooner. 470 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,280 John was opening up more to me, to friends. 471 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,780 He even invited journalists over to our home. We started to do things that he 472 00:33:32,780 --> 00:33:34,320 hadn't done before, like interviews. 473 00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:37,740 Invariably, people were basket cases before they got to the house. 474 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:40,720 They couldn't believe that they were actually going to be from Lebanon. 475 00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:55,780 What qualities do you think you had that attracted John? What was it that he was 476 00:33:55,780 --> 00:33:56,780 looking for? 477 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,120 You know, I've said a lot of different things, and I think we shared a lot of 478 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,460 interest together, especially music. 479 00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:09,219 We can talk about rock and roll, because I was a real rock and roller. I mean, I 480 00:34:09,219 --> 00:34:10,400 am a real rock and roller at heart. 481 00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:12,120 Well, the rock and roll album, folks. 482 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:21,199 It started in 73 after I finished Mind Game. And so I thought, I don't know. 483 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,960 I'm always in between takes with the Beatles, too. They always jam those 484 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,480 songs. They're my favorite songs. 485 00:34:26,739 --> 00:34:32,080 Can't I have some fun instead of all this writing my feelings in the songs, 486 00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:36,380 you know? John Lennon writes new songs. Is it about him or is it about Paul? 487 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,699 So I thought, I don't know. Who shall I use? 488 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,440 It's a great Phil Spector. 489 00:34:42,620 --> 00:34:46,850 All right. This is one of the greatest sessions of all time. And here we go. 490 00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:48,010 One, two, three. 491 00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:52,250 Jim Keltner. He was an awesome drummer. 492 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:54,570 John used him on all his albums. 493 00:34:55,330 --> 00:35:00,830 We got with Spector to make a Phil Spector type of record with John. 494 00:35:01,510 --> 00:35:03,030 Great rock and roll cover. 495 00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:07,390 For the first time, he wanted to be just a singer in the band. 496 00:35:07,650 --> 00:35:09,970 All right, I just want to sing. I don't want to know nothing about nothing. 497 00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:12,650 So we started the sessions and they went well. 498 00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:14,310 John was the star. 499 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,040 But Phil Spector, he was the boss. 500 00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:19,400 Hey, we got the man here. 501 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,760 What man? 502 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,560 Any fucking man. Let's go. 503 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,060 Phil was the master of the evening. 504 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,720 I remember the bass drum also on that after that, you know, ringing. 505 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040 It would start off great. Feeling great, sounding great. 506 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,460 John would be fantastic. But in those two or three hours, everybody just would 507 00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:41,960 be drinking and, you know, doing it and smoking and everything. So it would be 508 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,960 just crazy. 509 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,140 Phil? Phil was definitely out of control. 510 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,000 It 511 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,800 definitely 512 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,640 got crazy, you know. There was 28 guys playing at night. 513 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,680 15 of them were out of their minds, including me. 514 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,600 And the sessions broke down. 515 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,140 Really bomb, you know. I'm not even going to say what happened. Some of it 516 00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:11,140 was ridiculous. 517 00:36:11,410 --> 00:36:13,710 You can't yell war over his plane. 518 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:17,470 Please accept my fall. It's the only way I can come in. It's your fault. 519 00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:20,870 Then they gradually collapsed into mania, you know. 520 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:23,770 It's one way of putting it. 521 00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:29,490 Oh, my God. 522 00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:31,590 Phil Spector just shot off his gun. 523 00:36:33,330 --> 00:36:35,610 If you're going to shoot, shoot me. 524 00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:38,070 But don't fuck with me ears, man. 525 00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:39,540 I need them. 526 00:36:39,660 --> 00:36:42,000 I'm going to write your history, so be careful. 527 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,340 That's when the session ended. And, God, the chaos began. 528 00:36:51,620 --> 00:36:58,200 Phil told me to get in the Cadillac with John, and he was just 529 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,200 screaming. 530 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,620 We raced back to the house. 531 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,280 He was screaming bloody murder. Things didn't exactly improve when we got home. 532 00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:09,200 It actually got worse. 533 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,480 He went crazy in the house and destroyed everything. 534 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,800 So then, May was on the telephone. It was very hysterical when she was saying, 535 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,920 you've got to come over. 536 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,860 John's going mad. He's acting like a madman in the house. He's smacking the 537 00:37:23,860 --> 00:37:24,860 place up. 538 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,700 Thank God, Tony arrived. 539 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:30,640 And there, at the doorstep, is John. 540 00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:33,060 Screaming and shouting. 541 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,900 The only way I knew how to handle it was I just went up and I put my arm down. 542 00:37:36,910 --> 00:37:37,848 And he cried. 543 00:37:37,850 --> 00:37:40,470 Instantly. He just broke down and wept. 544 00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:44,830 Did he become physically abusive to you? 545 00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:47,730 He did a couple of times, yeah. Knock you around a bit? 546 00:37:48,010 --> 00:37:49,530 He threw me against the wall. 547 00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:57,150 The only things I regret in life are hurting myself and 548 00:37:57,150 --> 00:38:01,890 hurting somebody else. He didn't remember the next day and he apologized. 549 00:38:01,970 --> 00:38:05,430 He even cried about it. No, I was a hitter. 550 00:38:06,090 --> 00:38:10,970 I couldn't express myself. I hit, I fought men, I hit women. Because I am 551 00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:15,810 absolutely a violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his 552 00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:19,030 violence. Oh, she was treated badly. But you know what? 553 00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:23,590 She loved him so much that she really knew that he was having a hard time. And 554 00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:26,450 she just cared for him, you know? John was drinking a lot. 555 00:38:27,150 --> 00:38:31,010 Whether he remembered it or not, he pushed me hard. 556 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,810 He was just out of control. 557 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:41,670 Instead of apologizing, he turned away and said, I 558 00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:43,070 don't think it's going to work. 559 00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:46,030 He was breaking my heart. 560 00:38:48,930 --> 00:38:50,970 But I wasn't going to take it anymore. 561 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:53,590 There was nothing else to say. 562 00:38:54,490 --> 00:38:56,030 I left for New York. 563 00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:07,040 I was able to keep it together all the way to New York City. 564 00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:09,680 Until I got home. 565 00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:12,780 What was I doing with my life? 566 00:39:14,180 --> 00:39:15,180 No job. 567 00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:16,860 No money. 568 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,820 I didn't know what to think. 569 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,000 Was my relationship with John over? 570 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,880 Eventually, I called Yoko to tell her I was back in town. 571 00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:35,430 Yoko insisted. 572 00:39:35,850 --> 00:39:37,870 You have to go back to him right away. 573 00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:45,370 Cynthia and Julian are coming to L.A. 574 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:48,010 He can't deal with them by himself. 575 00:39:48,830 --> 00:39:51,410 He needs you. To do what? 576 00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:53,510 Make everything nice? 577 00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:57,090 I'm the girlfriend who's supposed to deal with the ex-wife. 578 00:39:57,370 --> 00:40:00,450 The current wife. The son of the ex-wife. 579 00:40:00,990 --> 00:40:03,810 And I don't even think I'm the girlfriend anymore. 580 00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:07,730 And then it occurred to me. 581 00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:10,530 John was trying to get me back. 582 00:40:11,530 --> 00:40:13,530 He couldn't ask me himself. 583 00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:17,950 He had to get Yoko to do it for him. 584 00:40:19,850 --> 00:40:21,850 I agreed to fly back to L.A. 585 00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:26,930 just in time to be with John when Julian and Cynthia arrived. 586 00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:32,010 Where was son Julian all this time? He had some difficulties with that 587 00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:35,990 relationship, didn't he? Yeah, he hadn't seen his son in three years, and he 588 00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:37,210 finally showed up here. 589 00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:43,990 He had felt so guilty not seeing him, and I was being in the middle trying to 590 00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:45,550 put that two together. 591 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:50,390 I hadn't seen him for a long, long time. I'd had the occasional phone call. I was 592 00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:54,710 scared. I just didn't know what I was going to come up against, and it was 593 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:56,750 nerve-wracking for the first day or so. 594 00:40:57,390 --> 00:41:02,290 But with May being around, that eased any tensions that were there. 595 00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:07,010 I think May made that a lot easier for me as a young kid. 596 00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:09,210 And he finally got a chance to see his son. 597 00:41:09,710 --> 00:41:12,750 And he said, my God, he's a little man. He can talk to me. 598 00:41:12,970 --> 00:41:13,970 And I said, yeah. 599 00:41:14,570 --> 00:41:19,470 I recall, you know, hanging out with May a lot at that point in time. She was 600 00:41:19,470 --> 00:41:20,690 very playful. 601 00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:24,590 We always had a smile on our face. We were always giggling and playing around. 602 00:41:24,770 --> 00:41:26,570 Even Dad seemed... 603 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:30,770 A lot lighter in himself and a lot happier in himself. 604 00:41:36,730 --> 00:41:38,830 I became the official tour guide. 605 00:41:39,070 --> 00:41:42,350 I started taking more responsibility for our little group. 606 00:41:42,730 --> 00:41:45,830 Especially the trip that we did to Disneyland. 607 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:50,330 Gone to heaven on that one. I still remember it fondly. 608 00:41:50,590 --> 00:41:52,970 We snuck into the studio at the Paramount lot. 609 00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:58,180 where we watched them film Happy Days. I remember Happy Days very much going to 610 00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:58,979 the set. 611 00:41:58,980 --> 00:42:03,660 And we walked in, and they were like, oh, my God, it's John Lennon. 612 00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:10,620 Julian Foote, when we ran into a very young Jodie Foster. 613 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,500 And she was the same age as me, and I was a fan even then, and we had a 614 00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,060 picture taken, I think. I still have Poloid. 615 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,300 John hadn't seen Cynthia in years. 616 00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:29,660 Since he walked out with Yoko, it was still hard for John to face her. 617 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:35,200 But I was hoping they could find some kind of closure for Julian's sake. 618 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,740 May and Mum sort of fast became friends. 619 00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:53,180 They got on very, very famously. 620 00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:58,960 They enjoyed each other's company all through the years. They understood each 621 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,880 other very, very well. Yes, due to, I guess, the circumstance that they both 622 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,040 found themselves in. 623 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,620 I made sure that every time that he talked to Martha every week, that it 624 00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:11,520 would never lapse anywhere in between. 625 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,960 May understood, you know, Dad's sensibilities. 626 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,580 dealing with his first young son and having not seen him for a long time. 627 00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:27,000 When I look back, one of the things I am most proud of is helping to reunite 628 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,200 Julian with his dad. 629 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:38,360 Yoko called incessantly. She wanted a full report. 630 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:44,200 She was constantly calling every day, 10 calls a day, 15 calls a day. She always 631 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,118 called us. 632 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,380 Fine, she used to call me at 3 in the morning, 4 in the morning, 6 in the 633 00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:49,380 morning, whatever hour. 634 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:51,500 Yoko never left them alone. 635 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,460 They would say, oh, Yoko called again. 636 00:43:54,780 --> 00:43:59,100 Mae, she was very protective of John. She didn't feel threatened by Yoko. 637 00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:00,940 Please welcome Mae Pang. 638 00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:04,220 She did not realize it was going to turn into such a big love affair. 639 00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:06,680 She thought it would be two weeks, gone, goodbye. 640 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,440 Why didn't the marriage break up? 641 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,640 Why was it breaking up? It was breaking up, and she even asked for a divorce, 642 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,380 and she didn't expect the answer to come from John to say, okay, fine, let's do 643 00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:21,080 it. He realized that he meant it, that she said, oh, no, the stars aren't 644 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,080 right. 645 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:25,660 She would have to find another way to manipulate him. 646 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,200 On the other hand, John and I were having a great time. 647 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,520 That last weekend that everybody keeps talking about, it wasn't so lost. 648 00:44:35,870 --> 00:44:39,530 People feel more of John than they had in the previous years, and he was out 649 00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:40,530 and about a lot. 650 00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:53,110 It was around this time John started hanging around with a new crowd, a 651 00:44:53,110 --> 00:44:57,250 notorious bunch of musicians known as the Hollywood Vampires. 652 00:44:58,210 --> 00:45:00,910 Started in L.A. at the Rainbow Bar and Grill. 653 00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:07,260 Where every single night it was Harry Nilsson, Alice Cooper, Bernie Taupin, 654 00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:11,180 Mickey Dolenz, Keith Moen, if he was in town. John Lennon was an honorary 655 00:45:11,180 --> 00:45:13,380 member. The last thing John needed. 656 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,560 with a membership to a drinking club, Vampires or Not. I was just hanging 657 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,960 around with Ringo and Harry Nilsson and became a teenage gang. Only we were all 658 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,080 30. Meg was able to kind of navigate all the different things that were going on, 659 00:45:29,140 --> 00:45:34,180 Yoko's phone call, John's drinking and using during that period. And one of the 660 00:45:34,180 --> 00:45:37,020 reasons is she was the only one who wasn't using drugs and drinking. 661 00:45:37,630 --> 00:45:42,690 So, I mean, she had an edge over all of us. I wasn't drinking. I don't drink and 662 00:45:42,690 --> 00:45:43,649 I don't take drugs. 663 00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:47,670 So what happened is when we got together with the guys and they would say, oh, 664 00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:48,690 let's go out and party. 665 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:54,190 And I'm the one standing going, I didn't fit into that category. 666 00:45:54,450 --> 00:46:00,270 It was a kind of rehash of my youth acting like a teenager in Hollywood, in 667 00:46:00,270 --> 00:46:04,390 public. John would always take himself to the extreme for anything. 668 00:46:04,810 --> 00:46:09,940 I would do something dumb like... The day 669 00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:16,600 began with Yoko's usual 670 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,600 morning call. 671 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:21,620 All I heard was one side of the conversation. 672 00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:23,840 It started with, Really? 673 00:46:24,260 --> 00:46:27,140 Really. And ended with, Really? 674 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,200 Au revoir. John looked at me. He was stunned. 675 00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:32,620 She slept with somebody. 676 00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:34,860 I said, 677 00:46:35,530 --> 00:46:37,890 I think it's her guitarist, David Spinoza. 678 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:41,970 If you don't believe me, look at her album cover. 679 00:46:42,670 --> 00:46:45,430 He's definitely more prominent than you. 680 00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:51,450 Her intention was, in effect, to keep John out of the picture so she can hit 681 00:46:51,450 --> 00:46:52,930 on the David Spinoza situation. 682 00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:56,890 I mean, I had no interest at all. But she wanted to realize what it was. She 683 00:46:56,890 --> 00:46:59,490 wanted to produce a record and all that stuff. That would be terrific. 684 00:46:59,730 --> 00:47:02,990 But as far as that other sexual thing, we were together and then we weren't. 685 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,460 You know, my career is fine the way it is. I don't have to go down in rock 686 00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:07,060 history and guess what, you'll go on. 687 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,360 Later that night, we went to the famous Troubadour nightclub to hang out with 688 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:16,360 Harry Nielsen. 689 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,620 It was a pretty big comeback for the Smothers Brothers. 690 00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:27,760 They were just picked off network television for getting too political. 691 00:47:28,580 --> 00:47:33,340 Around the table was Jack Haley Jr., Pam Greer, Peter Lockhart. 692 00:47:33,940 --> 00:47:35,940 Even Paul Newman was in the house. 693 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,200 It was the first night I drank Brandy Alexander's, which was brandy and milk, 694 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,800 Paul. Oh, you certainly drank them like milk. And I was with Harry Nielsen, who 695 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,480 didn't find there was much coverage of me. Just a bum. 696 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,720 But anyway, he got drunk. And at one point, he just turned around and grabbed 697 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:53,720 me. 698 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,040 And he kissed me. 699 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,440 And I'm actually struggling. No, I don't want anybody to know that we're 700 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,030 together. And the next day, of course, it was all over the newspapers and then 701 00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:08,230 in Time magazine. 702 00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:13,870 So I got drunk and got rowdy with a friend of mine, and I got thrown out of 703 00:48:13,870 --> 00:48:15,130 the club. We'll see it. 704 00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:21,050 I'm human, you know. I was drunk in Liverpool in the smashed bone boxes. 705 00:48:21,710 --> 00:48:23,310 It didn't get in the paper set. 706 00:48:24,370 --> 00:48:25,890 And then Yoko called. 707 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:30,970 Hello? And she said, I know May wanted to do this. 708 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,180 And he goes, no, it was me. 709 00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:38,740 John wanted to tell the world that we were together. 710 00:48:46,220 --> 00:48:50,440 The day after the Troubadour, we attended the American Film Institute's 711 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,900 tribute to James Cagney. 712 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,840 Ladies and gentlemen, James Cagney. 713 00:48:56,580 --> 00:48:59,520 There were movie stars and paparazzi everywhere. 714 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,120 Then John and I walked in. 715 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:12,320 It was a fun time. John and I were just looking at all these movie stars. 716 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:16,960 And we go, oh, look who's here. It's Mae West. And there's Paul Newman. 717 00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:21,340 All of a sudden, we see this figure walking over in white. And it's Mick 718 00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:23,140 Jagger. Oh, God. 719 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:24,920 We were like chess pieces. 720 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,860 He was in total white, and we were in total black. 721 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:37,580 Then, Ron Galea, famous for stalking Jackie Kennedy with his camera, captured 722 00:49:37,580 --> 00:49:39,500 us in public as a couple. 723 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,120 She gained so much strength during that time. Her self-confidence changed 724 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,060 completely. She was becoming confident about who she was. 725 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,840 She was just beautiful. 726 00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:10,920 When she walked in a room, you couldn't miss her because these long legs kind of 727 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,220 took off across the room. 728 00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:14,980 John gave me confidence to express myself. 729 00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:20,940 I wasn't just walking behind anymore. We were the center of attention wherever we 730 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:21,940 went. 731 00:50:27,630 --> 00:50:32,050 They were seen around town. They did things. That was not the way he had been 732 00:50:32,050 --> 00:50:36,270 in New York. So it was a much more social life than he'd been living. 733 00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:51,010 To escape the 734 00:50:51,010 --> 00:50:54,690 attention, we took a road trip to Palm Springs with Harry Nielsen. 735 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,960 But while we were there, bad news. 736 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,360 Phil Spector was holding the rock and roll tapes hostage, and he wasn't 737 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,360 letting go. 738 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,260 Harry suggested, hey, John, why don't you produce an album for me? 739 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,980 I was just hanging out with, you know, guys, and all we were doing was getting 740 00:51:25,980 --> 00:51:28,660 drunk and, you know, waking up, you know, sick. 741 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,960 So that's why I said to Harry, let's forget this. Let's do something. 742 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,420 So John had this great idea. 743 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:41,020 He invited the musicians to work on Harry's album and to stay together in 744 00:51:41,020 --> 00:51:42,020 one place. 745 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,940 He chose a house on the Pacific Coast Highway with a famous history. 746 00:51:48,740 --> 00:51:49,240 The 747 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:56,160 minute you walked 748 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,780 in the front door, you got this story. 749 00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:04,600 Marilyn Monroe met both Bobby Kennedy and John Kennedy here and rendezvoused 750 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,560 with both of them. And, of course, her ghost just stayed there. It felt like 751 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:15,240 it. All these people living in a house on the beach formerly where Kennedy and 752 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:21,260 Marilyn had been. John liked the idea of making love in the same bed as JFK and 753 00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:22,260 Marilyn Monroe. 754 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,760 And we rented this house. I thought, get them all in one house and they'll behave 755 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,760 themselves. 756 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,060 It was the wrong thing to do. 757 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,920 I arranged all the sessions, made sure everything ran smoothly. 758 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,820 Harry, John, and I were listening to playback. 759 00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:52,220 I was facing the door, which suddenly opened, and I mouthed to John, 760 00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:54,770 It's Paul and Linda. 761 00:52:55,850 --> 00:53:01,210 John turned as if he had spoken to him that morning and said, Hey, Paul. 762 00:53:01,490 --> 00:53:06,190 Paul asked, Is the session over? Yeah, but we're about to jam. Want to join? 763 00:53:08,050 --> 00:53:14,530 And in that moment, five years of animosity and anger simply disappeared. 764 00:53:15,330 --> 00:53:19,670 I jammed with Paul. I did actually play with Paul, yeah. We did a lot of stuff 765 00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:20,670 in L.A. 766 00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:30,160 Stevie Wonder came in from the studio next door. 767 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:39,360 So there was 50 other people playing, and they're all just watching me and 768 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,360 Paul. 769 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,820 Linda joined in on organ. 770 00:53:43,060 --> 00:53:47,480 Mal Evans, the original roadie for the Beatles, and me, we grabbed the 771 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,400 tambourine, and the fun began. 772 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,680 This was the last time John and Paul ever played together. 773 00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:21,910 The next day, Paul and Linda came over to the beach house. This was really 774 00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:26,610 crazy. This was L.A. crazy, right up there. Harry Nilsson, who was a lovely, 775 00:54:26,730 --> 00:54:29,670 lovely boy, but went to excess. 776 00:54:30,290 --> 00:54:35,110 Keith Moon, another lovely boy, again went to excess. John, same kind of 777 00:54:35,110 --> 00:54:37,830 thing. And the whole team of them making this record in L.A. 778 00:54:38,290 --> 00:54:40,530 They told me, oh, Paul's coming over. 779 00:54:40,990 --> 00:54:44,850 Paul and Linda are coming. And that was a big deal at that time because there 780 00:54:44,850 --> 00:54:48,350 had been a lot of animosity between them, especially John and Paul. 781 00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:52,740 And Ringo was there too. That was the first time that John and Paul were 782 00:54:52,740 --> 00:54:56,980 actually going to sit down and have civilized talk without lawyers present. 783 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,220 When I saw them together, finally, I thought, this is quite a moment. 784 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,120 I snapped this picture. 785 00:55:04,660 --> 00:55:09,080 Little did I know that Paul was here to deliver a message from Yoko. 786 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,500 I'd been asked by Yoko, Linda and I were asked by Yoko, take a message to John. 787 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,220 I'll see if he's interested. 788 00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,380 Took him in the back room like a sort of elder brother, almost. 789 00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:21,440 Sort of said, you know, I'm the go-between. 790 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,960 Do you still love Yoko? Do you want to get back with her? 791 00:55:25,940 --> 00:55:28,740 Here's how you do it. And just gave him what Yoko had said. 792 00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:31,280 You would have to come back to New York. 793 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:32,800 He can't live with me anymore. 794 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:36,660 You would have to call, ask me out. I want the romance. 795 00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:38,080 You'd have to send me flowers. 796 00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:40,340 Do it all again. 797 00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:46,020 I don't think that John Orme gave in to her. 798 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:54,580 John didn't appreciate being told what to do. He wasn't interested in Yoko's 799 00:55:54,580 --> 00:55:55,580 terms and conditions. 800 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,720 He simply said, I'm with May. 801 00:56:00,020 --> 00:56:06,080 And I thought this relationship might have a real future without Yoko. 802 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,740 That's when I straightened out in the middle of that album. That's when I 803 00:56:09,740 --> 00:56:14,350 realized there's something wrong here. You know, this is... crazy man so then i 804 00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:17,530 suddenly was the straight one in the middle of all these mad mad people i 805 00:56:17,530 --> 00:56:21,730 said i suddenly was not one of them you know and i pulled myself back and 806 00:56:21,730 --> 00:56:25,590 finished off the album best i could you know so then after that i came home to 807 00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:32,470 new york while i closed up things in l.a the boys took their act to 808 00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:33,470 new york 809 00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:54,680 John called me every night. 810 00:56:55,900 --> 00:56:59,400 He couldn't believe the reception he got in Central Park. 811 00:57:00,020 --> 00:57:03,040 He told me, come home, May. 812 00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:08,640 I actually began to think our relationship had survived the so-called 813 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,640 lost weekend. 814 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,980 I returned to New York. 815 00:57:21,020 --> 00:57:25,200 To my great relief, I found John clean and sober. 816 00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:29,880 By then, I'd straightened myself out. I was straight and, you know, no drink. 817 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,100 John decided we should move in together. 818 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,860 We ended up finding the perfect apartment. 819 00:57:41,660 --> 00:57:47,580 Can you imagine? I was 23, and my first live-in boyfriend was John Lennon. 820 00:57:51,180 --> 00:57:55,780 We had a view of the East River, which reminded John of the Mersey in 821 00:57:55,780 --> 00:57:56,780 Liverpool. 822 00:57:57,140 --> 00:58:00,840 I remember the apartment very well. It was a really small apartment. It wasn't 823 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,840 Tittenhurst, no. It was on the top floor, I believe, and very steep stairs. 824 00:58:05,020 --> 00:58:06,020 The view was amazing. 825 00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:08,940 It was like being in a little bit of a castle on top of the building 826 00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:13,040 overlooking New York and the river. It was a very, very special little spot. 827 00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:16,960 We took the bedroom and we fixed up the guest room for Julian. 828 00:58:18,580 --> 00:58:20,640 Everything, people always looking at people like me. 829 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,220 Trying to see some secret, or what do they do, what do they do? 830 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,840 Do they go to the bathroom? 831 00:58:26,180 --> 00:58:29,080 Do they eat? Do you? I do, quite a lot. 832 00:58:32,180 --> 00:58:37,880 It was an absolute joy and a pleasure with just Dad and May, and it was just a 833 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,220 happy, happy time, especially in some of the photographs. 834 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,240 You can see that May took of us, of Dad and I together. 835 00:58:44,620 --> 00:58:48,880 We even had cats, Major and Minor. 836 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,720 Which John named after the black and white cheese on the piano. 837 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:05,940 As an actual New Yorker, I show John around real New York. 838 00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:21,540 Wave or shake your hand, and I get about, and I go to eat, and I'm enjoying 839 00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:23,680 all the things I couldn't do for ten years, you know. 840 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,300 I seem to be the guy in New York that all the Englishmen say hi to, you know. 841 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,780 Oh, it's just good, you know, it's mixed in town, Paul's in town, anybody's songs 842 00:59:35,780 --> 00:59:39,020 are lovely, you know. Paul McCartney, you know, come over to our house, and 843 00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:40,920 Ringo, and George, and... 844 00:59:41,130 --> 00:59:44,630 Alvin. All these people had their best times with John when he was with Mae. 845 00:59:44,730 --> 00:59:49,790 And Nick acknowledged that when John was with Mae was the time that he got to 846 00:59:49,790 --> 00:59:52,830 really see him. Everybody saw John when he was with Mae. 847 00:59:53,030 --> 00:59:56,870 The funny bit, we were trying to get in touch with Paul and Linda for dinner. 848 00:59:57,130 --> 01:00:01,730 We didn't reach them. We left them a message. And as we're coming up 64th 849 01:00:01,730 --> 01:00:04,990 Street in the cab, we look over into the other cab, and it's Paul and Linda. 850 01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:08,090 And all of a sudden, we yell out, and the two Beatles. 851 01:00:08,540 --> 01:00:11,620 John and Paul stick their heads out and they're screaming at one another saying, 852 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,760 I'll talk to you later. And as the car's moving, they split. 853 01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:16,160 And it's wild to see that. 854 01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:21,480 John's favorite place in our apartment was out on the balcony. 855 01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:29,660 And that's where I took a picture of Bob Gruen taking his famous picture. 856 01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:36,620 I remember Dad and May showing me. 857 01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:39,740 where they were on the rooftops and they'd seen the UFO. 858 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,960 Loved the story and the idea that that happened. 859 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,800 We saw a UFO one night and there were two of us standing nude looking at this 860 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,580 thing with no noise, nothing. 861 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:57,140 Over here, up there, I saw a UFO and it went down the river, turned right at the 862 01:00:57,140 --> 01:01:01,860 United Nations, turned left and then down the river and it looked dark like 863 01:01:01,860 --> 01:01:06,160 black or grey in the middle and had white lights, just looked like light 864 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,160 bulbs, you know. 865 01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:10,660 Just going up, on, up, on, up, on, blink, blink, blink, blink, around the 866 01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:14,860 bottom. John grabbed an envelope and scribbled a picture that looked exactly 867 01:01:14,860 --> 01:01:15,860 like what we saw. 868 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,880 Well, almost. 869 01:01:22,740 --> 01:01:28,060 John immortalized the sighting in this liner note, and it became part of his 870 01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:29,060 legend. 871 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,920 When I was with John, it was the most productive years that he had. 872 01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:38,180 Musical. 873 01:01:40,460 --> 01:01:44,820 I always was a record man, you know. I mean, I liked the studio all the best 874 01:01:44,820 --> 01:01:47,200 once I got the hang of it and the control of it. 875 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:48,520 Jammed with Mick Jagger. 876 01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:51,660 Worked with Ringo. 877 01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:55,500 Elton John. 878 01:01:57,620 --> 01:01:58,620 David Bowie. 879 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,660 Would you carry me up to him? 880 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,160 Right? 881 01:02:04,580 --> 01:02:06,080 One thing I love the most. 882 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,940 With being in the recording studio, doing production work with John. 883 01:02:11,380 --> 01:02:14,800 I earned production credits on some major albums. 884 01:02:22,620 --> 01:02:25,460 I even sang backup on Number 9 Dreams. 885 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,380 We had met David Bowie through Elizabeth Taylor. 886 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080 The next minute he says, hello John, I'm doing the... 887 01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:36,169 Cross the universe. 888 01:02:36,170 --> 01:02:37,170 Do you want to come on down? 889 01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:39,610 We sort of made this lick into a song with what happened. 890 01:02:39,970 --> 01:02:40,970 Backwoods piano. 891 01:02:41,710 --> 01:02:44,530 And a couple of things like repeats of Fame. 892 01:02:45,810 --> 01:02:51,070 Fame became Bowie's first number one hit and the beginning of my special 893 01:02:51,070 --> 01:02:52,190 friendship with David. 894 01:02:54,910 --> 01:02:58,430 John wrote the song Goodnight Vienna with Ringo in mind. 895 01:02:58,810 --> 01:03:02,190 So we flew to Los Angeles for the recording and film shoot. During this 896 01:03:02,190 --> 01:03:05,910 time, of course, until Mace told you, he was very, very close, in close contact 897 01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:06,848 with Ringo. 898 01:03:06,850 --> 01:03:08,830 I'm more pleased that Ringo's doing well. 899 01:03:09,790 --> 01:03:11,650 Ringo's very non-judgmental as well. 900 01:03:12,130 --> 01:03:15,430 He let John go through all that shit that John went through without 901 01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:16,430 criticising him. 902 01:03:17,570 --> 01:03:18,870 Ringo just loved him, you know. 903 01:03:19,370 --> 01:03:22,890 Is that Ringo Starr advertising his new album, Goodnight Vienna, on Apple 904 01:03:22,890 --> 01:03:26,250 Records and tapes? It certainly is, John. Why, you look so wonderful. Thank 905 01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:28,170 you. Thanks, John. It's a pleasure, Ringo. 906 01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:33,470 Making music with his friends made John very happy. 907 01:03:36,010 --> 01:03:37,810 So did bonding with his son. 908 01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:41,830 John couldn't wait for Julian to come visit us again. 909 01:03:42,410 --> 01:03:46,690 Imagine, our visits to Long Island Sound were some of the happiest times we had 910 01:03:46,690 --> 01:03:47,690 together. 911 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,500 It touched my heart watching father and son growing closer. 912 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,120 I was very, yeah, I was very, very happy. I think that's probably where my 913 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,960 love of water and sailing and boating comes from. 914 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:06,260 We are a rock revolving around a golden sun. 915 01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:11,940 We are a billion children rolled into one. 916 01:04:42,670 --> 01:04:48,670 We are a rock revolving around the golden sun. 917 01:04:49,090 --> 01:04:54,410 We are a billion children rolled into one. 918 01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:59,770 Saltwater wells in my eye. 919 01:05:02,890 --> 01:05:07,110 I had a fabulous time. I mean, you can see in the film, happy as a clam. 920 01:05:07,250 --> 01:05:09,810 Smiling and laughing and having a good time. 921 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,500 But there was always a dark cloud hanging over our heads. The danger that 922 01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:29,980 John could be deported at any time. Every now and then they'll say, you've 923 01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:32,980 got 30 days to get out, and then my lawyer will kill them. Accompanied by 924 01:05:32,980 --> 01:05:36,540 his lawyer, John Lennon showed up at Foley Square virtually alone and 925 01:05:36,540 --> 01:05:40,340 unrecognized until waiting newsmen swarmed around him. Your defense must be 926 01:05:40,340 --> 01:05:41,340 costing you a lot of money. 927 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,280 Yeah. 928 01:05:44,380 --> 01:05:45,380 Is it worth it? 929 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,040 It will be. And then, some good news. 930 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:59,800 Because of the Watergate matter, as president, I must put the interests of 931 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,800 America first. 932 01:06:02,460 --> 01:06:07,580 Therefore, I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. 933 01:06:11,140 --> 01:06:15,160 At last, John could finally feel at home in America. 934 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,020 I like to be here because this is where the music came from. This is what 935 01:06:19,020 --> 01:06:22,420 influenced my whole life and got me where I am today, as it were. 936 01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:25,820 I love the place. I'd like to be here. I've got a lot of friends here. 937 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,120 This is where I want to be, you know. 938 01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:29,720 Statue of Liberty. Welcome. 939 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,920 I even brought my own cash. 940 01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:39,160 With Nixon off his back, John was thrilled. 941 01:06:46,780 --> 01:06:50,920 I kept shooting when a BBC film crew captured John. 942 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,400 Celebrating Manhattan. 943 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:15,240 We were invited to the premiere of an off-Broadway musical based on Sgt. 944 01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:16,880 Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. 945 01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:19,200 It was a mob scene. 946 01:07:24,110 --> 01:07:25,230 We took our seats. 947 01:07:27,170 --> 01:07:32,070 And then, out of the blue, Yoko showed up. 948 01:07:32,650 --> 01:07:36,170 I whispered to John, Do you want me to give up my seat? 949 01:07:36,730 --> 01:07:40,070 He bluntly said, No. 950 01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:41,950 Have her sit in the back. 951 01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:47,930 Watching the stage, it was like a circus. 952 01:07:49,070 --> 01:07:51,770 It reminded me of the Magical Mystery Tour. 953 01:07:52,410 --> 01:07:54,170 They had all those crazy outfits. 954 01:07:55,170 --> 01:07:59,030 John turns to me and goes, this is so fucking weird. 955 01:08:03,110 --> 01:08:07,970 Once the show was over, we ran right off to the party at the Hippopotamus Club. 956 01:08:08,270 --> 01:08:09,870 I've got to be honest with you. 957 01:08:10,830 --> 01:08:17,029 The first time that I went to Hippo with John, we came in, sat down, 958 01:08:17,170 --> 01:08:19,050 fully expecting to see Yoko. 959 01:08:21,950 --> 01:08:27,330 And there was this young, pretty girl there, and I thought, oh, press agent, 960 01:08:27,529 --> 01:08:31,330 you know, with him. And then I noticed that it was a little more than that. 961 01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:43,830 John was always attracted to strong women. 962 01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:54,210 Sitting in the back of the theater didn't sit well with Yoko. 963 01:08:57,529 --> 01:09:00,250 She told me, she's something you've taken John back. 964 01:09:02,029 --> 01:09:03,069 And I said, what? 965 01:09:03,350 --> 01:09:05,189 She said, something you've taken him back. 966 01:09:07,649 --> 01:09:09,870 She had no explanation. She said, I think it's time. 967 01:09:14,609 --> 01:09:19,870 At this point, John was determined to get back into the studio to complete the 968 01:09:19,870 --> 01:09:20,870 rock and roll album. 969 01:09:21,180 --> 01:09:24,279 I finished it off, and I played it around to a few people that weren't me. 970 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,700 And I played it to the record company. I didn't know what to do with it. I said, 971 01:09:27,740 --> 01:09:30,800 I don't know whether to release it even. I've got it off my chest. I've finished 972 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,560 it. And they all said, this is all right. This is all right. Let's put it 973 01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,700 out. I said, it's all right, is it? 974 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:35,979 OK, we'll put it out. 975 01:09:39,620 --> 01:09:41,340 He was a real media freak. 976 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,660 He'd sit in front of the TV. He would have the music blaring, but the TV was 977 01:09:45,660 --> 01:09:46,779 on at all times. 978 01:09:47,340 --> 01:09:51,680 One night we were cuddling in bed when John got the inspiration for a new song. 979 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:56,680 We were watching late night television when all of a sudden the famous TV 980 01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,960 preacher Reverend Ike comes on. If you're looking in by television, quickly 981 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,680 reach and get a pencil or a pen. 982 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:06,560 Grab the nearest paper sack if you have to. 983 01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:09,140 John was mesmerized. 984 01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:13,940 Everything you do, everything you want. 985 01:10:15,620 --> 01:10:17,400 Whatever gets you through the night. 986 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,740 John kept repeating the phrase. 987 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,700 Whatever gets you through the night. 988 01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:29,600 Reverend Ike's message became a hook for a new song. 989 01:10:31,660 --> 01:10:34,260 We went straight to the studio to record it. 990 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,580 And who happened to show up? 991 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,620 But Elton John. 992 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,600 He just popped into New York on his way through and walked in the studio. 993 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,800 and said, hey, can I put some piano on that? And I said, sure, you know, go 994 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,040 ahead. And then I said, look, while you're here, do you want to sing 995 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,040 harmony? 996 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:59,880 From inspiration to creation to collaboration, I was proud to be a part 997 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:00,880 of the journey. 998 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,760 Then we set out on the biggest PR campaign in Capitol Records history. 999 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,700 You've been listening to John Lennon's new album, Walls and Bridges. Thank you. 1000 01:11:09,900 --> 01:11:10,900 It's a pleasure, John. 1001 01:11:14,490 --> 01:11:17,670 No, I wouldn't want to be so commercialist to hold up walls and 1002 01:11:17,670 --> 01:11:20,910 bridges, number one with a bullet, out now with a new single, number nine, 1003 01:11:20,910 --> 01:11:23,830 Dream, at your local store. Thank you, God bless you, and let's get on with 1004 01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:24,830 business. 1005 01:11:25,090 --> 01:11:27,690 You just did the business. Oh, I did, but it's good. 1006 01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:34,310 To promote the album, we stopped at KHJ Radio in Los Angeles. 1007 01:11:34,650 --> 01:11:38,850 Good morning, Southern California, it's 619 and 62 degrees in Hollywood. 1008 01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:42,850 John was great at schmoozing with fans on the air. I love the... 1009 01:11:55,139 --> 01:12:01,300 We were then invited to the Caribou Ranch in Colorado to record with Elton. 1010 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:11,260 John suggested playing Lucy 1011 01:12:11,260 --> 01:12:13,780 in the Sky with Diamonds against a reggae beat. 1012 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,760 While we were there, we went shopping. 1013 01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:26,800 John looked pretty good at the Liverpool cardboard. 1014 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,580 Whatever gets you through the night became a number one hit. 1015 01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:43,100 It was the first number one I had, actually. I did not expect to get to 1016 01:12:43,100 --> 01:12:44,100 number one at all. 1017 01:12:44,460 --> 01:12:46,060 I didn't think he'd have a chance in hell. 1018 01:12:47,260 --> 01:12:48,680 Elton made a bet with John. 1019 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,440 If the single got to number one, he would have to perform live with Elton. 1020 01:12:54,580 --> 01:12:59,100 Well, I lived to get nervous about that. In fact, I said, okay, it's time to tell 1021 01:12:59,100 --> 01:12:59,858 you Jews. 1022 01:12:59,860 --> 01:13:03,680 We got together in New York. It wasn't, you know, and we talked about what we 1023 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,500 should do, and we had a rehearsal on Tuesday night. 1024 01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:08,060 John was dreading the performance. 1025 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,600 But he was a man of his word. 1026 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,300 And it was time to pay up. 1027 01:13:18,980 --> 01:13:21,540 John hit his nerves by putting on Elton's glasses. 1028 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,740 And there were plenty of glasses to go around. 1029 01:13:44,940 --> 01:13:47,460 That night we took a limo to Madison Square Garden. 1030 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,020 John was so nervous. 1031 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,520 Nervous? He was nauseous. 1032 01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:56,680 That was Elton's big, big, big, big, big year. 1033 01:13:58,580 --> 01:14:03,460 You know, the year when that's your year, and his tour was unbelievable, and 1034 01:14:03,460 --> 01:14:04,720 he couldn't believe it. 1035 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,720 It had been so long since John had performed live, he didn't know how the 1036 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,720 audience would react. 1037 01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:16,130 Because he hadn't been on tour since 1966 when it was four amps on the stage. 1038 01:14:20,190 --> 01:14:22,810 Backstage, we sat waiting for John's cue. 1039 01:14:27,070 --> 01:14:29,370 I was more nervous than I was going on stage. 1040 01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:34,930 Seeing as Thanksgiving, we thought we'd make tonight a little bit of a joyous 1041 01:14:34,930 --> 01:14:38,250 occasion by inviting someone up to the stage. 1042 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:49,780 And I'm sure it will be no stranger to anybody when I say it's our great 1043 01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:53,640 privilege and your great privilege to be here with John Lennon. 1044 01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:59,480 And the whole of Madison Square Garden shook as the ground was shaking and all 1045 01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:01,420 the limos were like bouncing up and down. 1046 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:11,680 At John's request. 1047 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,940 I stood off stage where he would be sure to see me. 1048 01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:18,980 It was a magic, magic evening. 1049 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,440 It's just one of those magical things. I mean, just completely blew my head off. 1050 01:15:40,940 --> 01:15:44,680 This would be John's last live public performance. 1051 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,980 After the concert, I found a card with familiar handwriting. 1052 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,100 And then I noticed Yoko talking to John. 1053 01:15:54,380 --> 01:15:55,560 And we just went to backstage. 1054 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,240 And John was sitting there. 1055 01:15:59,960 --> 01:16:02,460 And he looked at me, and I looked at him. 1056 01:16:03,500 --> 01:16:07,840 And I was smiling, just kind of. 1057 01:16:10,340 --> 01:16:16,000 Smiling politely, whatever you call it. She came over, she sent Elton and she 1058 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,040 sent John Flowers for the show. 1059 01:16:18,740 --> 01:16:23,160 She congratulated them and that was it. And then we all went to the party 1060 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:24,160 afterwards. 1061 01:16:31,780 --> 01:16:35,400 Sportcaster Howard Cosell invited us to Monday Night Football. 1062 01:16:35,860 --> 01:16:36,940 Now I've got... 1063 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,760 A most familiar figure and face for all of you across the country here with me 1064 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,660 now. Of the original Beatles, Mr. John Lennon. 1065 01:16:46,010 --> 01:16:47,610 John, nice to see you, John. 1066 01:16:47,810 --> 01:16:51,030 I want to move that up just a little closer. How are you? What's been your 1067 01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:55,050 view of this American professional football scene? It's an amazing event 1068 01:16:55,050 --> 01:16:59,110 and site. It makes rock concerts look like tea parties. But I must say, the 1069 01:16:59,110 --> 01:17:01,770 first thing I heard when I got in was I'm playing a Beatles tune yesterday, 1070 01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:03,090 which cheered me up no end. 1071 01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:05,650 Will the Beatles ever reunite? 1072 01:17:05,890 --> 01:17:09,390 You never know. You never know. I mean, it's always in the wind. If it looked 1073 01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:10,930 like this, it might be worth doing, right? 1074 01:17:13,629 --> 01:17:18,010 Ironically, two weeks later, at the Plaza Hotel, arrangements were made 1075 01:17:18,010 --> 01:17:20,270 officially dissolving the Beatles. 1076 01:17:22,110 --> 01:17:25,610 Closing was scheduled at the Plaza Hotel, a big meeting room. 1077 01:17:26,170 --> 01:17:31,490 Paul and Linda in the corner filming it, George walking around the table, and 1078 01:17:31,490 --> 01:17:33,750 they're saying to me, where's John? 1079 01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:38,510 And I spoke with May initially, and she put John on the phone. She said, John, 1080 01:17:38,570 --> 01:17:41,630 where are you? He said, I'm not coming. The stars aren't right. 1081 01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:43,300 I wasn't going to argue with him. 1082 01:17:43,820 --> 01:17:45,520 Yoko told him not to sign. 1083 01:17:45,940 --> 01:17:48,480 Ha! The stars weren't right. 1084 01:17:53,220 --> 01:17:55,460 We had a well-timed visit from Julian. 1085 01:17:56,140 --> 01:17:58,480 The three of us escaped to Florida. 1086 01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:04,960 At Disney World, I was there on the most crowded day of the year, around 1087 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,420 Christmas, I think. 1088 01:18:07,180 --> 01:18:11,460 And people didn't bother me because I was just one in a million people. I was 1089 01:18:11,460 --> 01:18:12,460 just crushed up. 1090 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,700 But seeing him is good, you know. 1091 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,720 After a few days of unwinding, John finally sat down to sign the contracts. 1092 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,280 Linda McCartney had photographed Paul and George signing in New York. 1093 01:18:31,820 --> 01:18:35,300 So John said to me, May, get the camera. 1094 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:36,880 Be my Linda. 1095 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:50,200 And that's how the Beatles, who started at the Cavern Club in Liverpool, finally 1096 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,900 ended at Disney World. 1097 01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:00,900 With the stroke of a pen, the Beatles were no more. 1098 01:19:09,670 --> 01:19:11,650 1975 got off to a great start. 1099 01:19:12,370 --> 01:19:16,510 John and I were back in New York. At one point, he asked me, he goes, you know, I 1100 01:19:16,510 --> 01:19:20,390 was thinking, I wonder what it would be like if I started to write with Paul 1101 01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:21,550 again. What do you think? 1102 01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:25,190 And I said to him, I said, are you crazy? I said, it would be great. We 1103 01:19:25,190 --> 01:19:28,530 might do bits together, you know, we don't know yet. There's every chance we 1104 01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:31,870 might just feel like getting together and doing something, you know. And the 1105 01:19:31,870 --> 01:19:33,490 Beatles were back on the chart. 1106 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:37,720 We all have albums, singles, everything. 1107 01:19:37,980 --> 01:19:39,980 Zooming up the charts, folks, isn't that nice? 1108 01:19:40,740 --> 01:19:41,740 Separately, but together. 1109 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,740 I was the anchor at WPDI-TV in Philadelphia. 1110 01:19:49,580 --> 01:19:53,320 Well, Larry Kane from way back when. Traveling with him with the Beatles was 1111 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:54,320 wonderful. 1112 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,740 John, more than anyone else, I remained in touch with. And we invited him to 1113 01:19:58,740 --> 01:19:59,740 come down. 1114 01:20:00,140 --> 01:20:04,180 And he said, can I go on TV with you? What would you like to do? He said, how 1115 01:20:04,180 --> 01:20:05,180 about the weather? 1116 01:20:26,559 --> 01:20:30,940 After the program was over, he was telling me about this romance he had 1117 01:20:30,940 --> 01:20:33,000 with a beautiful young woman, May Payne. 1118 01:20:33,370 --> 01:20:37,010 And he said that we fell in love, and it was really an idyllic life. 1119 01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:39,870 I was deeply in love with John. 1120 01:20:48,110 --> 01:20:50,690 John often showed his affection with his drawings. 1121 01:20:51,550 --> 01:20:57,850 He sketched my favorite animal, a gorilla, sweetly offering flowers and 1122 01:20:57,850 --> 01:21:00,310 announcing, I've come for May. 1123 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:07,660 And here he imagines himself floating peacefully through old age, pot-bellied 1124 01:21:07,660 --> 01:21:14,420 and content, surrounded by his favorite things, his cat, his ciggy, 1125 01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,000 his coffee. 1126 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:24,400 There I am, above the clouds, watching over our little house with John as the 1127 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:27,920 walrus. He seemed to be thinking of our future. 1128 01:21:28,810 --> 01:21:31,110 And it looked like heaven on earth. 1129 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,340 So everything was going great. 1130 01:22:28,020 --> 01:22:29,020 What happened? 1131 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,180 This is the toughest one. 1132 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,900 Yoko had claimed that there's this therapist that, you know, can hypnotize 1133 01:22:40,900 --> 01:22:45,860 him and help him quit smoking because he felt that his lungs were going short. 1134 01:22:45,940 --> 01:22:48,340 You know, he didn't hold a breath long enough when he sang. 1135 01:22:50,440 --> 01:22:53,060 Yoko called up and said, John should come home. 1136 01:22:53,380 --> 01:22:55,540 And all of a sudden I got this horrible feeling. 1137 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:57,960 And I didn't want him to go. 1138 01:22:58,580 --> 01:23:02,620 And he turned around on the staircase and he looked at me and he said, I'll 1139 01:23:02,620 --> 01:23:03,499 come back early. 1140 01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,880 Whatever restaurant you want to go, we'll go. And make the arrangement of 1141 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,700 going down to see Paul and Linda down in New Orleans. Because you're going to 1142 01:23:10,700 --> 01:23:12,800 love it. Because I had never been to New Orleans. 1143 01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:17,620 He turned to me, gave me a kiss. 1144 01:23:18,380 --> 01:23:19,500 He said, I'll be back. 1145 01:23:20,420 --> 01:23:24,140 And when he walked out the door, the door slammed behind him. 1146 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,840 I had a strange feeling I wasn't going to see him back here again. 1147 01:23:37,380 --> 01:23:41,860 So I didn't speak to him the whole weekend. 1148 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,500 I tried calling. 1149 01:23:46,300 --> 01:23:48,780 And Yoko would say, he's sleeping. 1150 01:23:49,060 --> 01:23:50,060 He's in session. 1151 01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:54,120 Everything but then to get him on the phone. 1152 01:23:54,640 --> 01:24:00,880 But finally, about I don't know how many tries, I said, listen, you know how John 1153 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,860 doesn't like to miss a dental appointment. 1154 01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:08,660 Please tell him. He's got one on Monday. 1155 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:16,160 And we met there. And we stood outside, and I could see he looked different. He 1156 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,160 sounded different. 1157 01:24:17,940 --> 01:24:21,600 And afterwards, I went in one direction. 1158 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,920 I went in one direction, he was going in the other. And I said, where are you 1159 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:27,920 going? 1160 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,660 And he looked at me and he went, uh, home. 1161 01:24:32,340 --> 01:24:36,620 I said, well, home is this way, pointing in the direction I was walking. 1162 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:42,560 And then finally he came over to me and he said, listen, Yoko's allowed me to 1163 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:43,560 come home. 1164 01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:47,420 Allowed? And I said, whose idea was this? 1165 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,560 He goes, really, nobody just came up. 1166 01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,040 So I knew. 1167 01:24:52,940 --> 01:24:54,180 That's not what he was thinking. 1168 01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:56,100 The week, week and a half before, 1169 01:24:56,860 --> 01:24:59,360 he was just, we were about to buy a house. 1170 01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:02,160 We had gone out there. We even took Julian. 1171 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,380 We were about to buy a house in Montauk. 1172 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,640 The next five years, I saw John. 1173 01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:22,420 On and off. 1174 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,200 And often we were intimate. 1175 01:25:26,060 --> 01:25:28,520 And I know it meant a lot to both of us. 1176 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:35,480 It had been about a little over a year since I had last seen John when he 1177 01:25:35,480 --> 01:25:37,100 called out of the clear blue. 1178 01:25:39,380 --> 01:25:42,520 We spent an hour and a half on the phone. I said, where are you? 1179 01:25:43,300 --> 01:25:44,900 He goes, I'm in Cape Town. 1180 01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:47,400 And I went, South Africa? 1181 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,080 He said. 1182 01:25:50,470 --> 01:25:52,610 We have to find a way for us to get together. 1183 01:25:55,330 --> 01:26:00,090 Never would I have thought that would be the last time I would talk to him. 1184 01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:06,910 This is the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite. 1185 01:26:07,670 --> 01:26:12,630 Good evening. The death of a man who sang and played the guitar overshadows 1186 01:26:12,630 --> 01:26:15,250 the news from Poland around in Washington tonight. 1187 01:26:15,820 --> 01:26:19,660 Former Beatle John Lennon, who was 40, was shot and killed outside his luxury 1188 01:26:19,660 --> 01:26:20,760 apartment in New York. 1189 01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:25,320 News of Lennon's death touched off a wave of shock and mourning around the 1190 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,320 world. 1191 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,920 Devoted fans of John Lennon still gather at the site where the former Beatle star 1192 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,300 was murdered Monday night. 1193 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,240 Visiting overnight was Lennon's 17-year-old son, Julian, who flew in 1194 01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,240 from London. 1195 01:26:40,700 --> 01:26:42,060 That Sunday... 1196 01:26:42,590 --> 01:26:45,970 There was a little memorial, and I didn't want to come out, but Tony King 1197 01:26:45,970 --> 01:26:48,030 and I decided to take a walk. 1198 01:26:49,770 --> 01:26:51,310 May meant something to John. 1199 01:26:51,790 --> 01:26:55,950 She wasn't just a little scrubber that he picked up off the street. 1200 01:26:56,170 --> 01:26:59,090 She helped him through a very difficult period of his life. 1201 01:26:59,390 --> 01:27:05,970 She coped with a lot of shit, and she was a young girl, and her whole life was 1202 01:27:05,970 --> 01:27:07,710 turned around as a result of this experience. 1203 01:27:14,730 --> 01:27:15,730 It never ended. 1204 01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:20,810 And so when it didn't end, life ended it for me. 1205 01:27:21,210 --> 01:27:22,490 What happened out there? 1206 01:27:46,350 --> 01:27:53,130 what is one of your fondest memories of may can you describe that the fact that 1207 01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:59,110 she maintained such a great relationship with mum and the reason i got to see may 1208 01:27:59,110 --> 01:28:06,010 a lot more uh and the only i think the main 1209 01:28:06,010 --> 01:28:12,810 reason i got to see may a lot more was was because of mum you know and uh love 1210 01:28:12,810 --> 01:28:14,330 you and uh i love you too 1211 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:20,920 So, you know, that's, you know, one of the key things, I think, more than 1212 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:21,920 anything. 1213 01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:23,380 Indeed. 1214 01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:26,160 And look at us now. Still here. 1215 01:28:26,380 --> 01:28:28,040 Still here. Still alive and kicking. 1216 01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:29,300 Who would have thought? 1217 01:28:37,340 --> 01:28:40,120 When I look back at our so-called lost weekend, 1218 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:48,620 When I think about my whole relationship with John, I know I wasn't the only 1219 01:28:48,620 --> 01:28:49,620 woman he loved. 1220 01:28:52,940 --> 01:28:54,180 He loved Cynthia. 1221 01:28:56,860 --> 01:28:58,080 He loved Yoko. 1222 01:29:01,940 --> 01:29:05,980 And yes, he loved me. 1223 01:29:31,370 --> 01:29:35,130 the only answer for me if there is any answers to anything is love 102876

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