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I used to call myself a
filmmaker,
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a documentary filmmaker.
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Although my films
touched on broad issues
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like nuclear weapons
proliferation
or big tobacco.
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What was central
to my films was always
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what was happening in my own
life,
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often involving my family.
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And you, Adrian,
were a big part of that.
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Can you cut a piece for me,
Dada?
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Most of the time when I was
filming scenes like this one,
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I didn't really have a purpose
in mind.
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But I always did
imagine that someday,
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I'd watch some of them with you.
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Say, when you were in
your mid-thirties
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and had kids of your own.
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You ready?
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Yes.
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You made the little trap
yourself.
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You once said
it was like flying a kite
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except it was underwater.
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Whoa!
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How many did we get?
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That is a big one.
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That's the biggest one
we ever caught.
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I think so, it’s huge.
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Do you think we should
let some crayfish go?
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Yeah, I think we should.
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Because this big one
might be really angry.
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He might be, Adrian.
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I filmed you spontaneously,
randomly,
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just a few minutes every month
or so
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as you were growing up.
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But as the years went by,
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it added up to quite a bit of
footage.
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I got something!
I definitely got something.
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Great!
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I can probably use that for
bait, Dada.
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Maybe.
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Hey, it's a little one.
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Why do you think
you like fishing so much?
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I don’t know, I just love...
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the deep surprise of the ocean.
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You never know what you'll
catch.
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Adolescent.
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And adolescence is going
through...
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An adolescent
is going through adolescence.
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That's exactly right.
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Which is the...
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Yeah, that's good?
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Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's good?
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Now, as I look back over
that footage from those years,
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I found a partial record of what
was happening in our lives then.
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What you were up to, and
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what I was up to
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and how we were both moving
closer
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to the day that you would die.
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I look at this footage
both to convince myself
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that you were alive,
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but also, to convince myself
that you're gone.
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It's been seven years since you
died.
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And I still miss you every day.
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This is Adrian with his mom,
Marilyn.
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In the film, I called “In
Paraguay.”
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“In Paraguay” touches on
various subjects,
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like the devastation caused by
a series of disastrous wars
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initiated by Paraguayan
dictators.
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But it mostly dealt with the
complexities of foreign adoption
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We were in Paraguay to
adopt our daughter, Mariah.
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We need some more dirt.
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I mean more...
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More bricks.
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We ended up being
stuck in limbo in Paraguay
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for three months during
the adoption process.
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And I found my camera
gravitating
more and more towards my son.
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This is a restaurant house.
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There's even a bed.
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One minute.
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What would you like to eat?
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Do you have any patatas fritas?
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Sit down and go over there.
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I will be there in a second.
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Serve yourself salad, please.
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Serve yourself salad.
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Mmm, tasty.
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Even then, I could see
that this was, for me,
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a kind of golden period
of family life and of filming.
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Boy, that was good.
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Mom, it takes a while to eat
that!
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I gulped it. I'm sorry,
I was starving.
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I was a pig, eating a pig.
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Hey waiter,
my steak is as hard as a rock!
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No, it isn't.
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I was in love with my wife,
in love with my kids,
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and in love with the pleasure
and practice of filming
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moments in life that unfolded
before the camera.
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“In Paraguay” premiered at
the Venice Film Festival.
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Venice was a great way
to premiere the film.
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But as it turned out,
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further screenings
were postponed indefinitely
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until my wife and I
could come to terms
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with putting another chapter
of our family life in public.
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It had already taken me years
to finish “In Paraguay”
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And as the years went by,
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things at home became
more and more strained.
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Marilyn had made it clear that
she
preferred not to be filmed
anymore.
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And with the kids now in their
teens,
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that seemed to be more or less
the feeling around the house.
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Mariah?
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Please may I touch it?
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Wait a second, honey.
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Tell me what you did.
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I did pee-pee.
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Did you really?
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Yes
Did you really?
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Upstairs?
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Yes
Upstairs?
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Let me touch it.
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Over there?
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You can touch it here.
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What do you see?
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Rainbow.
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Rainbow?
Rainbow.
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Mariah?
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What page are you on, sweetheart?
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I have to go find out.
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Somehow, the so-called golden
period
of filming moments from my
family life
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seemed to be coming to an end.
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Adrian, I asked you to keep the
sound down until I finished
filming.
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It is down.
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Don't film me right now.
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Dada,
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I'm going to make something
for you as a present.
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Oh, good.
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It's called a "Cooking TV".
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What's a Cooking TV?
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It’s the good kind of TV,
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not the bad kind
that makes you stupid.
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It's the good kind.
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Where do you see the image on
it?
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Well, the image
is on the paper right here,
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But it's sort of like a puppet
show.
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And I go behind it and then I
talk.
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Then the story comes through.
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But I have to write something
on there at the end.
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I love you, Dada.
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I love you too, honey.
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You're so cute, Dada.
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Is that going to come on the
film?
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Probably
Is that going to come on the
film?
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Why do you say probably?
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Whether I edit it out or not.
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What?
Whether I edit it out or not.
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It depends on whether I edit it
out,
cut it out of the film.
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I want you to keep it on.
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Okay, I'll keep it on.
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Okay!
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In nearly all my films, my
family life
had been the lens through which
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I’ve tried to make sense of
the world around me.
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In fact, my mother's
favorite expression was
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everything begins and ends
with family.
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But although my kids
had loved being filmed
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and I had loved filming them,
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they’d apparently had enough.
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I wasn't sure where to go from
here.
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Until I got a phone call.
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I have to be quiet though
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because my father's asleep
upstairs.
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You know, I think he already
has enough questions
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about the validity
of my film project without...
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seeing me dressed up like this,
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talking to my own camera.
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Hi Sis.
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Hi!
Hi Sis.
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Where's Dad?
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Oh, he's way back there.
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The call was from
a Hollywood producer
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who was interested in trying
to remake one of my
documentaries
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as a fiction film.
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I made “Sherman's March”
back in my mid-thirties,
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when I was still single
and my family and friends
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were starting to become
concerned
about my singleness.
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Hello, Dede.
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Hi, I'm glad to meet you.
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Glad to meet you, too.
Hi, I'm glad to meet you.
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Charleen has to say the least
said a lot about you.
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Oh, and about you.
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Would you stop? Would you stop?
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Don't touch that lens.
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I can't help but touch it.
Turn it off!
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This is important.
This is not art, this is life!
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Alright.
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“Sherman's March” was the film
where
I found my footing as a
filmmaker
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by making the decision to film
things
that were happening in my own
life.
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I come from a family of doctors.
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Grandfather, father and brother.
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And at first, my way of making
films
seemed a little strange to them.
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I’ll be glad when that big eye
is gone.
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But eventually, they got used to
it.
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Making “Sherman's March”
had been an adventure,
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a road movie, in which I didn't
know
where the road would lead.
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But I did manage to meet
a few women along the way.
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Now that there was an offer
to remake “Sherman's March,”
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I felt somewhat protective of my
film.
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I decided to talk it over
with my sort of trusted
advisors,
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my brother and sister.
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I think it's a wonderful movie,
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and I think it deserved
to be on the big screen.
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It was on the big screen...
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Bigger screen.
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Can a movie bomb twice?
Bigger screen.
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Tommy, be nice!
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I think it's a very bad idea.
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Really?
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You really think that?
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Depends on--
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on what he does with it?
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Well, that's my concern, too.
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Can he make a good film?
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But if you have some
kind of control on that
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and they say you're going
to be one of the producers,
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then maybe it'll work.
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Yes, that's a very intelligent
thing
my brother just said.
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Well, I'm a doctor.
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He's a doctor...
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What do you expect?
He's a doctor...
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I'm an animal activist.
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I train the wild beast!
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Yes, I work with animals.
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So how are you going
to control this guy?
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So I won't be reading the
New York Times Friday movie
review
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saying, “Ross McElwee
sold his soul.”
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One star.
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One star and a half...
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Maybe.
One star and a half...
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Well, they'll let me have some
input.
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They want my input
in constructing the script.
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Well, that sounds good.
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Yeah, I don't really think
they have a clear idea
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as to how they’re gonna do it?
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I do think if you decide not to
do it,
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then you'll always
second-guess yourself.
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Well, I'm taking the first step.
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What?
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I'm taking the first step
we’ll see what happens...
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I think that's a good idea.
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I went to Los Angeles.
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A meeting had been set up
for me to talk with Steve Carr,
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the director of a string of
commercially successful
comedies.
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When did you first see
“Sherman's March?”
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The first time it played on PBS
I was living in New York,
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and it played on channel
thirteen,
which is a New York affiliate
for PBS.
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Sure.
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And I guess I was waiting for
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Monty Python's Flying Circus
to come on,
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and I stumbled onto it.
258
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And I remember my mom
was watching it, too.
259
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I caught it at the very
beginning
260
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and it just unfolded for me.
261
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You think any of it really has
anything to do with your
lifestyle?
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The way you dress, the way you
live?
263
00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,159
And it was a world I hadn't seen
264
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,640
the characters just seem to
one on top of the next
265
00:16:30,641 --> 00:16:33,731
become more and
more interesting to me.
266
00:16:39,824 --> 00:16:43,698
And then as I got caught up
in your likability and the
journey.
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On February 16th, 1865
268
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Sherman's troops massed here
on the banks of the Congaree
River.
269
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I got the opportunity to
see it quite a few times.
270
00:16:54,317 --> 00:16:57,276
And then it always just
stuck with me and I always loved
it
271
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and didn't see it for years and
years
272
00:16:59,366 --> 00:17:01,976
but always remember it and
would talk about it with
friends.
273
00:17:01,977 --> 00:17:04,718
Then when Jason and I got
together,
274
00:17:04,719 --> 00:17:08,113
I've always had this idea
about the movie
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that I thought this could be,
276
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and it always included every bit
of the documentary that I've
seen
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and that I cherish.
278
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And now the experience
I have of actual filmmaking
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and how to tell the story
of a film being made.
280
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I am bored with your singleness.
281
00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:27,132
Well, I've made attempts
at correcting this situation.
282
00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:30,178
Yeah, well, you see, that's the
other thing that's boring, failure.
283
00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:31,484
It is time to get on it.
284
00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:33,573
You have been insufficient
in this quest
285
00:17:33,574 --> 00:17:35,488
and so I have to take over.
286
00:17:35,489 --> 00:17:36,793
I have to.
287
00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,753
See now Charleen wants
Amy Adams to play her.
288
00:17:39,536 --> 00:17:41,276
Yeah, she's great.
289
00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:42,625
She's actually on our list.
290
00:17:42,626 --> 00:17:43,409
Is she really?
291
00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:44,497
Yeah.
Is she really?
292
00:17:44,498 --> 00:17:46,152
She’s actually on our list
for...
293
00:17:46,891 --> 00:17:48,501
She’s on almost every one of our
lists.
294
00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:49,328
Yeah, yeah
She’s on almost every one of our
lists.
295
00:17:49,329 --> 00:17:50,024
She’s great.
296
00:17:50,025 --> 00:17:51,418
Oh my God, the best.
297
00:17:53,768 --> 00:17:57,336
My son, Adrian, wanted me to
give
Steve and his team a crack
298
00:17:57,337 --> 00:18:00,514
at turning my old film
into a work of fiction.
299
00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:03,734
It was kind of a running joke
between us.
300
00:18:04,431 --> 00:18:06,432
He'd say,
301
00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:09,392
“I like your documentaries, Dad,
but it's time to make a real
movie.”
302
00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,178
He was becoming
more and more interested in
303
00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:15,529
filmmaking as a possible career.
304
00:18:17,139 --> 00:18:18,966
And it did occur to me that
maybe
305
00:18:18,967 --> 00:18:23,101
the remake of “Sherman’s March”
might also open a door for him
306
00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:26,757
to enter the world
of what he called “real movies.”
307
00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:33,981
Does it look okay
through the viewfinder?
308
00:18:33,982 --> 00:18:35,591
It is what it is, Dad.
309
00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:37,854
Is what it is...
310
00:18:37,855 --> 00:18:41,685
It's a still shot
that you picked out yourself.
311
00:18:43,165 --> 00:18:46,167
I finally agreed to sell the
rights to “Sherman's March.”
312
00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:49,997
And in turn, I secured the
rights
to make a new documentary
313
00:18:49,998 --> 00:18:53,175
about the fictional remake
of my old documentary.
314
00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:59,616
I asked Adrian if he'd like to
film
his dad signing the contract.
315
00:19:02,489 --> 00:19:04,229
I'm saying that,
316
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:05,840
I'm surprised you don’t at least
want a slow zoom or something.
317
00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:09,190
Go ahead and do a slow zoom.
318
00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:12,280
Well, let me sign this,
and then you can do a slow zoom.
319
00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:14,282
It's boring to have it running,
that's the kind of shots you can
get
320
00:19:14,283 --> 00:19:16,458
when you’re filming yourself.
321
00:19:16,459 --> 00:19:19,723
The point of having a cameraman,
is you can actually get--
322
00:19:20,942 --> 00:19:23,726
a more interesting shot.
323
00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:25,989
Okay, take the camera off the
tripod
and get a more interesting--
324
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:27,687
I don't want to take it off the
tripod.
325
00:19:27,688 --> 00:19:28,644
Well, move the tripod.
I don't want to take it off the
tripod.
326
00:19:28,645 --> 00:19:30,038
Well, move the tripod.
Alright.
327
00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:40,874
That is so peculiar.
328
00:19:40,875 --> 00:19:43,878
I can't believe it. It's so
peculiar.
329
00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:48,230
The irony of “Sherman's March”
being undertaken by somebody
else.
330
00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:51,537
Who is it that made that
decision?
331
00:19:51,538 --> 00:19:53,365
And how can we escape him?
332
00:19:53,366 --> 00:19:55,845
No, I don't want to escape him.
I want him to succeed.
333
00:19:55,846 --> 00:20:00,154
I think, you know, if he can
make a really good independent
334
00:20:00,155 --> 00:20:02,549
fiction film from “Sherman's
March,”
335
00:20:03,245 --> 00:20:04,506
I'd be elated.
336
00:20:04,507 --> 00:20:06,943
I just don't quite know
how it can be done.
337
00:20:06,944 --> 00:20:09,424
I mean, I'm saying
that I can't be replaced
338
00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:11,078
neither can you.
339
00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,691
And it'll be hilarious
for us to see people try.
340
00:20:15,953 --> 00:20:18,782
Charleen Swansea
is one of my oldest friends
341
00:20:19,827 --> 00:20:24,614
I met her in high school when
she was teaching a poetry
workshop.
342
00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:30,097
You know, I learned a lesson
from the Ezra Pound debacle,
343
00:20:30,098 --> 00:20:32,447
which is that it didn't fucking
matter.
344
00:20:32,448 --> 00:20:35,930
I mean, it didn't matter
what Ezra Pound thought.
345
00:20:39,673 --> 00:20:42,370
Charleen has been there
for many of the important
moments
346
00:20:42,371 --> 00:20:44,591
in my family life.
347
00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:52,686
Adrian, hi darling!
348
00:21:00,302 --> 00:21:02,172
This baby has got some--
349
00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:04,305
This is such a smart baby!
350
00:21:04,306 --> 00:21:06,568
He’s been around a camera a bit.
351
00:21:06,569 --> 00:21:08,788
That’s not what makes him smart,
352
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:11,052
being around a camera
makes you stupid!
353
00:21:11,748 --> 00:21:14,055
This is a smart baby.
354
00:21:16,187 --> 00:21:21,670
So, I'll come in on August the
eighth
and if I'm not going to come in
355
00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:25,326
it would be because I'm
on so much medication
356
00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:28,938
that it's really hard
for me to think ahead.
357
00:21:28,939 --> 00:21:33,900
And I hate to do the tests
that you're going to do on
memory
358
00:21:33,901 --> 00:21:35,771
when I can't remember my name,
359
00:21:35,772 --> 00:21:39,688
let alone some questions that
you would be asking me.
360
00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:42,736
They're testing...
361
00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:46,216
Old people
362
00:21:46,217 --> 00:21:48,044
about how
363
00:21:48,045 --> 00:21:50,264
accurate their memories are.
364
00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:54,573
But it's part of a scientific,
data-driven study.
365
00:21:54,574 --> 00:21:56,575
It’s a long... It even has a
name.
366
00:21:56,576 --> 00:21:58,707
I can't remember the name of it
367
00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:00,449
because I didn't care.
368
00:22:01,494 --> 00:22:05,018
And that's how you remember
something you care about it
usually.
369
00:22:05,019 --> 00:22:05,889
Anyway.
370
00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:09,893
What did you ask me?
371
00:22:11,417 --> 00:22:13,592
How is your memory, Charleen?
Speaking of memory.
372
00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:18,119
I don't know it's too
complicated,
it's like a beehive.
373
00:22:18,859 --> 00:22:20,903
But do you find that your
374
00:22:20,904 --> 00:22:23,819
short-term memory is holding
together okay as you get older?
375
00:22:23,820 --> 00:22:24,994
No, of course not.
376
00:22:24,995 --> 00:22:26,256
Oh, boy.
No, of course not.
377
00:22:26,257 --> 00:22:30,086
I can remember
odd pieces of stories
378
00:22:30,087 --> 00:22:33,568
and things about
379
00:22:33,569 --> 00:22:36,355
things I remember about you.
380
00:22:37,094 --> 00:22:40,097
They just pop up.
381
00:22:42,578 --> 00:22:44,971
I don't know
that's how memory is, it just
382
00:22:44,972 --> 00:22:47,061
it surprises me.
383
00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:56,505
You filming?
384
00:22:57,288 --> 00:22:58,332
Is it filming?
385
00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:00,291
Yes.
Is it filming?
386
00:23:01,858 --> 00:23:04,861
Bravo, Bravo!
387
00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:08,169
Bravo, Bravo!
388
00:23:16,525 --> 00:23:20,442
Looking at this now,
you seem as alive as ever...
389
00:23:21,835 --> 00:23:25,882
in a kind of half-life
that now represents you.
390
00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:32,888
I mean, you're alive
here in this footage,
391
00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:36,023
but you're no longer
alive in the real world.
392
00:23:41,681 --> 00:23:44,727
Where's your favorite place
that we've been to Adrian?
393
00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:46,902
What about Munich?
394
00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:48,643
Well, that was nice.
395
00:23:48,644 --> 00:23:50,429
We were only there for one day.
396
00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:53,256
I was?
397
00:23:53,257 --> 00:23:54,606
Munich Film Festival?
398
00:23:54,607 --> 00:23:56,042
That's right, remember?
399
00:23:56,043 --> 00:23:59,132
And that's the place where
the film had a problem.
400
00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:01,264
That's right.
401
00:24:01,265 --> 00:24:05,094
It got all confused because they
put
the wrong numbers on the
leaders.
402
00:24:05,095 --> 00:24:06,618
What happens when you do that?
403
00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:09,622
Well, people can't tell
which reel comes first.
404
00:24:10,579 --> 00:24:16,585
Because what if you put a two
here
and you put a one at the end.
405
00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,458
That's what happened.
406
00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:23,505
And it took them a long time
to get the leader straightened
up.
407
00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:31,600
The story I thought I was
telling with my filmmaking,
408
00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:35,343
the story of lives lived over
decades.
409
00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:37,998
Is now disjointed.
410
00:24:40,566 --> 00:24:42,350
Confused.
411
00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:50,271
The reels are all out of order.
412
00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,884
First, there is a father,
413
00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:58,888
and he has a son, me.
414
00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:04,893
But then it starts all over.
415
00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:09,333
I am now the father.
And I have a son, you.
416
00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:20,127
But something goes awry,
something goes off script.
417
00:25:26,481 --> 00:25:29,005
And then suddenly you're gone.
418
00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:32,225
Did you like the wedding scene?
419
00:25:32,226 --> 00:25:34,053
Yeah, I love that part.
420
00:25:34,054 --> 00:25:35,620
That's your favorite part?
421
00:25:35,621 --> 00:25:37,056
I love when you get married
That's your favorite part?
422
00:25:37,057 --> 00:25:39,189
with Mama.
423
00:25:40,408 --> 00:25:43,410
You think you might want
to get married someday?
424
00:25:43,411 --> 00:25:46,282
With you, Dada and Mama.
425
00:25:46,283 --> 00:25:48,068
Only with Mama or Dada?
426
00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:51,375
Mama and Dada.
427
00:25:51,941 --> 00:25:54,074
Only Mama and Dada.
428
00:26:00,297 --> 00:26:02,299
So yes, you're gone.
429
00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:05,867
Except you're not gone.
430
00:26:05,868 --> 00:26:08,567
Not entirely.
431
00:26:10,481 --> 00:26:11,743
Because I still have all these
432
00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:15,486
moments with you I captured on
film.
433
00:26:17,401 --> 00:26:19,664
Adrian,
434
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:22,449
I know you think that I should
be
working for a Hollywood
production.
435
00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:23,625
You can though, that's why--
436
00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:25,714
I don't understand it.
437
00:26:27,542 --> 00:26:29,283
It's like Steve Carr does,
438
00:26:29,631 --> 00:26:31,937
he works on
the moneymakers first.
439
00:26:31,938 --> 00:26:35,375
Then he has time
to do whatever he likes.
440
00:26:35,376 --> 00:26:37,725
Doesn't have to worry about
money.
441
00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:40,424
So you want me to be
more like Steve Carr?
442
00:26:42,252 --> 00:26:44,340
Adrian, I'm trying to do films
my way.
443
00:26:44,341 --> 00:26:46,300
Yeah, but--
444
00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:49,171
No one always gets their way
445
00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:50,608
just like you said to me,
446
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:51,958
you can't, you know...
447
00:26:53,176 --> 00:26:54,829
you can't just start at the top.
448
00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:57,136
You might have to be
someone's coffee bitch for a
while.
449
00:26:57,137 --> 00:27:02,010
Or file paperwork or run
little errands in a trailer.
450
00:27:02,011 --> 00:27:05,623
For a couple of years before
you even do anything meaningful.
451
00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,320
And so plenty of people
do stuff like that.
452
00:27:07,321 --> 00:27:09,628
So I don't see
why you're above that.
453
00:27:10,411 --> 00:27:12,586
But I've done that.
That's how I began my career.
454
00:27:12,587 --> 00:27:14,719
And you've been
successful but I'm saying,
455
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,156
why not just do some
blockbuster hits here?
456
00:27:17,157 --> 00:27:19,724
Oh, Adrian, it's not as if I
can just opt to do a famous--
457
00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:22,727
You’ve been offered to do
commercials for Jaguar
458
00:27:22,728 --> 00:27:24,467
and you turned them down.
459
00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:25,817
Well, that was years ago,
Adrian.
and you turned them down.
460
00:27:25,818 --> 00:27:26,905
Why would you turn
something like that down?
461
00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:28,080
It just doesn't make sense to
me.
462
00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:29,690
Because I didn't want
to do TV commercials.
463
00:27:29,691 --> 00:27:31,736
But it's not always about
what you want to do.
464
00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:35,697
You're blessed, it's such a
spoiled attitude to have.
465
00:27:41,224 --> 00:27:42,791
Had to get that out of the way.
466
00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:48,753
Ow, fuck!
467
00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:51,757
I told you that was my worst
fall.
468
00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:54,020
Yeah, good job Adrian.
469
00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:58,066
I'm done.
470
00:27:58,067 --> 00:28:00,679
I almost hit you in the face.
471
00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:04,770
I'm going to do something big,
and it's not going to be...
472
00:28:06,075 --> 00:28:08,381
It's not going to be from a
degree.
473
00:28:08,382 --> 00:28:11,253
I'm not going to graduate
with a degree in English or film
474
00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:13,081
and do this and that.
475
00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:17,825
I would love to work for HBO,
for example, or an internship
for...
476
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:20,915
Steve Carr and get involved
in that project heavily, and
then
477
00:28:20,916 --> 00:28:24,005
maybe they really like me
and they move up one position
more
478
00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:25,398
and then one position more.
479
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:29,272
You know, that's how it
happens I understand that.
480
00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:34,015
But on my own, I think it's
going to be through a book
481
00:28:34,016 --> 00:28:36,278
I've been trying to write.
482
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,454
It's based on my life, my
experiences,
483
00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:41,458
and I've had a lot
of ridiculous experiences.
484
00:28:42,329 --> 00:28:45,287
And weren’t you working on a
screenplay based on the novel?
485
00:28:45,288 --> 00:28:46,593
Yeah.
486
00:28:46,594 --> 00:28:48,638
But then again, I also...
487
00:28:48,639 --> 00:28:52,381
I came up with this company,
None Higher, Nonehigher.com
488
00:28:52,382 --> 00:28:54,644
It's up, check it out.
489
00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:58,214
Right now, it's just
basically a music blog.
490
00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:04,959
But my ultimate goal is
to have a line of T-shirts.
491
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,572
Once again, another thing
I'm procrastinating.
492
00:29:15,405 --> 00:29:20,758
At the time, Adrian was pursuing
multiple projects in multiple
fields,
493
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,240
but almost all of them seem to
connect back to filmmaking.
494
00:29:46,654 --> 00:29:47,697
What?
495
00:29:47,698 --> 00:29:48,350
Hi.
496
00:29:48,351 --> 00:29:49,526
Hey
497
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:50,875
Can I watch you?
498
00:29:50,876 --> 00:29:51,920
Yeah, sure.
499
00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:03,844
What?
500
00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,106
How old did you say you are?
501
00:30:05,107 --> 00:30:06,151
Me?
502
00:30:06,152 --> 00:30:07,326
Eight years old.
503
00:30:07,327 --> 00:30:08,718
Yeah, my sister’s nine.
504
00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:10,720
She is? I’m turning nine.
505
00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:11,330
Really?
506
00:30:11,331 --> 00:30:12,114
Yeah.
507
00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:14,551
So you’re in first grade?
508
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:15,813
What?
509
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:16,248
You’re in first grade then?
510
00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:16,814
No!
511
00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:18,120
I mean, second!
512
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:19,426
Third?
513
00:30:22,995 --> 00:30:23,909
Oh!
514
00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:26,345
You gotta be careful.
515
00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:27,694
I know. Okay.
516
00:30:27,695 --> 00:30:29,566
I can’t really do it but,
you just go like--
517
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,830
When I have all my protection
stuff,
518
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:35,006
You go like this, like this--
519
00:30:35,007 --> 00:30:35,920
Yeah
520
00:30:35,921 --> 00:30:37,486
Like that, like that.
Yeah
521
00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:39,271
And then I can turn it around
like that.
522
00:30:39,272 --> 00:30:40,185
That’s pretty sick.
523
00:30:40,186 --> 00:30:41,622
Yeah.
524
00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:46,845
Like that.
525
00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:15,002
Oh, sorry.
526
00:31:15,003 --> 00:31:16,004
It’s okay.
527
00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:18,877
Two, Three.
528
00:31:21,053 --> 00:31:22,054
Alright, cut.
529
00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,165
So I went back home,
530
00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,037
back to the south.
531
00:31:50,256 --> 00:31:52,735
The people producing the
“Sherman's March” remake
532
00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:57,740
asked me to record narration
they had written for a sample
reel.
533
00:31:57,741 --> 00:32:01,049
It would be composed of actual
shots from “Sherman's March.”
534
00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:04,834
They've already set me up on
dates
with a few nice women,
535
00:32:04,835 --> 00:32:07,316
and I've been looking
at some of my--
536
00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:09,709
Take two
537
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:11,711
They've already set me up on
dates
with a few nice women,
538
00:32:11,712 --> 00:32:14,715
and I've been looking up some
of my ex-girlfriends as well.
539
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,284
I'm holding out hope
that romantic love is still
possible
540
00:32:19,285 --> 00:32:21,330
here in the modern South.
541
00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:25,116
A few weeks later,
542
00:32:25,117 --> 00:32:27,815
they sent me
the finished sample reel.
543
00:32:29,469 --> 00:32:32,123
So I went back home,
544
00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:34,387
back to the south.
545
00:32:40,741 --> 00:32:42,785
Leave us alone.
546
00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:45,920
You better leave us alone.
547
00:33:04,156 --> 00:33:08,682
The fiction film as you know of
it...
548
00:33:10,075 --> 00:33:13,512
Steve and his team in Los
Angeles
had struck a deal with
549
00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:15,819
a well-known cable
television network.
550
00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:19,474
Rather than a feature film,
the idea would now be to adapt
551
00:33:19,475 --> 00:33:23,175
“Sherman's March” into a
dramatic television series.
552
00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:27,047
Oh well, TV would be fine.
553
00:33:27,048 --> 00:33:29,093
Gosh, I don't know
where it stands right now.
554
00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:31,791
It started off as a narrative
feature.
555
00:33:31,792 --> 00:33:34,924
It then morphed into a series.
556
00:33:34,925 --> 00:33:36,274
Right, the AMC TV show.
557
00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:37,231
That's right.
Right, the AMC TV show.
558
00:33:37,232 --> 00:33:39,582
With Steve directing the
pilot...
559
00:33:40,235 --> 00:33:43,760
I was beginning to have my
doubts
about the whole project.
560
00:33:46,589 --> 00:33:49,243
I needed to be back in
the world I had filmed.
561
00:33:49,244 --> 00:33:51,941
To remind myself that
my friends were real people
562
00:33:51,942 --> 00:33:55,729
living real lives,
not actors following a script.
563
00:33:58,427 --> 00:34:00,038
Does it look the same?
564
00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:03,563
Oh, I see it. Oh, neat!
565
00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:09,655
As Steve and the network
began talking to writers,
566
00:34:09,656 --> 00:34:12,789
I decided to go back
to North Carolina.
567
00:34:13,486 --> 00:34:16,575
I had learned that my friend,
Philip Osborne,
568
00:34:16,576 --> 00:34:19,927
who had appeared in
“Sherman's March,” had died.
569
00:34:24,366 --> 00:34:25,149
Tension that up?
570
00:34:25,150 --> 00:34:26,541
Yeah
Tension that up?
571
00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:27,587
Now put it back on there
and see what happens.
572
00:34:28,414 --> 00:34:30,328
I bet you it’ll work just great.
573
00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:31,069
Yeah
I bet you it’ll work just great.
574
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,332
Philip's son, Phil Jr.,
575
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:36,683
had taken over the family
business.
576
00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:37,858
Philip?
577
00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,207
Good to see you,
how you been doing Ross?
578
00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:41,295
I'm okay Philip.
579
00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:42,209
Great, great.
580
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:43,428
Great to see you, man.
581
00:34:43,429 --> 00:34:44,777
Good to see you.
Great to see you, man.
582
00:34:44,778 --> 00:34:45,953
How about that?
583
00:34:47,476 --> 00:34:49,695
There’s a fella here in town
that owns this one now.
584
00:34:49,696 --> 00:34:51,698
You never wanted to
drive one around yourself?
585
00:34:52,002 --> 00:34:53,438
I do have some old British cars.
586
00:34:53,439 --> 00:34:56,354
I have an old Bentley
that I drive, so I enjoy it.
587
00:34:56,355 --> 00:34:57,485
You drive a Bentley?
588
00:34:57,486 --> 00:35:00,488
Yeah, I have a 1952 Bentley Mark
VI.
589
00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:02,316
You're doing pretty well.
590
00:35:02,317 --> 00:35:04,579
Well actually,
it was my father's car
originally
591
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:06,930
and I inherited it.
592
00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:11,369
We lost him in October 2010.
593
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:15,024
And he said that
he was very content.
594
00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,593
He was happy with the life
he had lived.
595
00:35:18,028 --> 00:35:20,856
When we come in here,
we say he still lives because
596
00:35:20,857 --> 00:35:23,250
Of the things we’ve done
together,
597
00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:24,643
the things we used to do,
598
00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:27,821
and the things we have
a lot of great memories of
599
00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:29,866
That’s right
600
00:35:33,566 --> 00:35:36,263
Do you remember
taking off my steering wheel?
601
00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:38,439
Well you know, that was
one of the safety features
602
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,443
as they used to say for
keeping your car there.
603
00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:46,187
See you take your
steering wheel off with you.
604
00:35:48,929 --> 00:35:51,060
You take it off with you and
go anywhere you want to go.
605
00:35:51,061 --> 00:35:52,497
Take it on in the house.
606
00:35:52,498 --> 00:35:54,063
That's right.
607
00:35:54,064 --> 00:35:55,153
That way, nobody can steal
your car.
That's right.
608
00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:57,197
Philip does a lot of work now
himself.
609
00:35:57,198 --> 00:35:58,503
Oh yeah, I saw him.
Philip does a lot of work now
himself.
610
00:35:58,504 --> 00:36:00,069
You only have one son, right?
611
00:36:00,070 --> 00:36:01,114
Right
You only have one son, right?
612
00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:02,986
One son and one daughter.
613
00:36:03,509 --> 00:36:05,423
That's such a shame
about your daughter.
614
00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:06,946
Yeah, it was something...
615
00:36:06,947 --> 00:36:08,992
Sorry to hear about that.
616
00:36:10,429 --> 00:36:13,214
But that's just one of those
things
that happen though.
617
00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:17,957
Yeah, I think about that girl,
I miss her too.
618
00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:19,088
I really do.
619
00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:20,742
How did she die, Philip?
620
00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:21,700
She had cancer.
621
00:36:21,701 --> 00:36:23,616
Cancer?
622
00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:26,792
That’s bad, bad.
623
00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:28,359
Your mother had cancer, too?
624
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,621
Yeah, she had cancer also.
Your mother had cancer, too?
625
00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:30,579
Yeah.
626
00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:35,627
My mother always encouraged
627
00:36:35,628 --> 00:36:38,457
my hopes of becoming
some kind of an artist.
628
00:36:40,589 --> 00:36:42,721
But she died when she was young,
629
00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:45,725
long before I became a
filmmaker.
630
00:36:49,903 --> 00:36:53,254
I went to visit my family's
burial plot in Charlotte,
631
00:36:54,168 --> 00:36:58,781
but discovered that my mother's
headstone had mysteriously
disappeared.
632
00:37:04,918 --> 00:37:07,660
Oh, there it is.
633
00:37:09,052 --> 00:37:12,752
And obviously, this one
has been quite a while.
634
00:37:30,596 --> 00:37:32,205
You’re spinning very slowly,
635
00:37:32,206 --> 00:37:34,034
but you're not gaining any
ground.
636
00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:38,080
This hippie lifestyle just
has...
637
00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:39,691
Not a hippie lifestyle!
This hippie lifestyle just
has...
638
00:37:39,692 --> 00:37:41,258
It is a hippie lifestyle.
639
00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:43,521
In New York and Boston,
you can get on the subway
640
00:37:43,522 --> 00:37:45,349
and ride to the beach, you know.
641
00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:48,352
And here you have to drive
through five miles of miserable,
642
00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:51,920
swampy, muddy road to
be attacked by mosquitoes
643
00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:53,400
and you get stuck in the
mud for all your trouble
644
00:37:53,401 --> 00:37:55,184
and then you have to walk back.
645
00:37:55,185 --> 00:37:56,490
And you never get to the
beach.
and then you have to walk back.
646
00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:59,014
While down South,
I visited another friend
647
00:37:59,015 --> 00:38:01,278
who had appeared
in “Sherman's March,”
648
00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,149
Wini Wood.
649
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,152
When we were making
“Sherman's March,”
650
00:38:06,153 --> 00:38:09,068
a lot of random moments
651
00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:12,898
got filmed, you know,
from your life here.
652
00:38:12,899 --> 00:38:17,119
And those exist now in a film.
653
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,428
What do they seem like
to you now, 30 years later?
654
00:38:21,429 --> 00:38:22,951
Well,
655
00:38:22,952 --> 00:38:26,912
now, it's odd that the film
656
00:38:26,913 --> 00:38:29,218
is a kind of memory archive for
me.
657
00:38:29,219 --> 00:38:30,916
Yeah.
is a kind of memory archive for
me.
658
00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:33,353
It's you know, I remember
what it felt like being at
Genesis
659
00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:35,660
and I remember,
660
00:38:35,661 --> 00:38:38,227
a lot of things I did.
661
00:38:38,228 --> 00:38:41,361
But for me now, looking at the
film,
662
00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:45,278
it’s how those memories become,
663
00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:48,281
I mean, they're really
activated.
664
00:38:48,282 --> 00:38:49,848
When I watch me milking a cow,
665
00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:54,461
I can feel the sensation
of the cow’s utter
666
00:38:54,462 --> 00:38:58,117
I can feel what it’s like to
touch and smell a cow.
667
00:38:58,118 --> 00:39:01,121
So it really activates memories.
668
00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:05,254
It functions as memory.
669
00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:07,996
And I can see this as you're
making your other films,
670
00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:11,131
as you're getting older and
trying to retrieve those
memories.
671
00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:15,439
Because we become more
acutely interested in memory
672
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,658
as we get older, I guess.
673
00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:22,838
You know, memory is also partly
about
connecting the past to the
present.
674
00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:24,883
What is this?
675
00:39:24,884 --> 00:39:27,452
This some war trash, honey.
676
00:39:29,454 --> 00:39:32,369
I'm trying to remember what
you said that irked me so
677
00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:38,114
because it is so absolutely,
totally
the wrong thing to say to a
woman.
678
00:39:41,117 --> 00:39:43,684
I don't remember
making movies together.
679
00:39:43,685 --> 00:39:46,339
Really?
680
00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:48,994
I really don't.
681
00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:52,345
What movies would we have?
682
00:39:52,346 --> 00:39:55,349
Well, I made a movie
called “Sherman's March.”
683
00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:59,918
You were in it, and you were
great
684
00:39:59,919 --> 00:40:01,398
in your role in that film.
685
00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:03,443
People loved it.
686
00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:04,792
I don't remember the--
687
00:40:04,793 --> 00:40:05,967
I don't remember it.
688
00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:07,534
Really?
I don't remember it.
689
00:40:07,535 --> 00:40:11,756
You don't remember when
you went with me to
690
00:40:11,757 --> 00:40:14,586
a military bunker near your
house?
691
00:40:15,108 --> 00:40:18,371
I mean, what you say to
a woman is not self-effacing.
692
00:40:18,372 --> 00:40:21,026
I mean, that's not it,
that's not even interesting let
alone--
693
00:40:21,027 --> 00:40:22,331
I never met her before.
694
00:40:22,332 --> 00:40:23,507
I don't care, Ross!
I never met her before.
695
00:40:23,508 --> 00:40:24,812
I'm trying to tell you.
696
00:40:24,813 --> 00:40:25,726
Postpone a vacation
I'm trying to tell you.
697
00:40:25,727 --> 00:40:26,684
because I was coming into town.
698
00:40:26,685 --> 00:40:28,294
That's absurd.
699
00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:30,383
Ross, that's what's wrong with
you.
700
00:40:30,384 --> 00:40:32,820
What she wants to hear
what all women want to hear,
701
00:40:32,821 --> 00:40:34,256
what children want to hear,
702
00:40:34,257 --> 00:40:36,650
you've got to be more
passionate, Ross.
703
00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:40,263
Now, if you had said to Dede,
please postpone...
704
00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:43,309
You talk about a passion
being necessary
705
00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:45,659
to have a meaningful life.
706
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:46,660
I don't care, Ross!
707
00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:48,532
I'm telling you...
708
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,447
It's a scene that resonates,
709
00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:53,537
and I think people have really
appreciated it over the years.
710
00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:54,625
You don't remember that?
711
00:40:54,626 --> 00:40:57,455
Not anything about that.
712
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:03,024
What I remember about
you and I together is not that.
713
00:41:03,025 --> 00:41:04,462
It’s um...
714
00:41:07,769 --> 00:41:10,772
I feel like I can make you
laugh.
715
00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:15,602
This place is like a tomb.
716
00:41:15,603 --> 00:41:18,562
No it's not, it’s like pubic
hair,
part the bushes!
717
00:41:18,563 --> 00:41:20,389
Go into the place!
718
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:23,305
Go with it, Ross. It's not like
a tomb.
That's the trouble with you.
719
00:41:23,306 --> 00:41:27,571
You don't know the difference
between sex and death!
720
00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:28,528
Sex and death?
721
00:41:28,529 --> 00:41:29,486
Sex and death!
Sex and death?
722
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,009
This is life!
723
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:32,967
You can't even tell it
when it sits on your face.
724
00:41:32,968 --> 00:41:34,578
You can't tell which it is.
725
00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:39,365
And you also make
viewers, audiences laugh.
726
00:41:39,366 --> 00:41:42,369
And you used to make us
laugh in the classroom.
727
00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:46,982
Classroom? What classroom?
728
00:41:47,766 --> 00:41:49,114
Fred, stand here with me.
729
00:41:49,115 --> 00:41:50,942
I want you to be my lover for a
minute.
730
00:41:50,943 --> 00:41:52,945
I want y’all to imagine that...
731
00:41:53,249 --> 00:41:56,557
You were a teacher, you taught
poetry.
732
00:41:57,036 --> 00:41:59,080
To high school students.
733
00:41:59,081 --> 00:42:00,081
To what?
734
00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:01,605
You taught poetry.
735
00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:03,650
You want to say what you feel
736
00:42:03,651 --> 00:42:05,565
so the people know it
and give it back to you.
737
00:42:05,566 --> 00:42:08,655
Okay, I got to say what I feel
to this man, I’m in love with
him
738
00:42:08,656 --> 00:42:10,788
because I got to make him
love me back.
739
00:42:10,789 --> 00:42:12,747
Now I can talk to him
one of two ways.
740
00:42:13,052 --> 00:42:14,443
Fred,
741
00:42:14,444 --> 00:42:15,662
look at me.
742
00:42:15,663 --> 00:42:18,448
I love you, Fred.
743
00:42:21,495 --> 00:42:24,498
Do you remember
the Poetry in the Schools
program?
744
00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:29,198
That's how I first met you.
745
00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:33,376
I don't know,
but things just disappear.
746
00:42:34,247 --> 00:42:36,510
They just disappear.
747
00:42:42,995 --> 00:42:44,605
Charleen.
748
00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:53,308
One day, Adrian told his
parents,
Ross and Marilyn
749
00:42:53,309 --> 00:42:56,530
that he wanted a baby sister
to play with him at the beach.
750
00:42:57,966 --> 00:42:59,314
It was me?
751
00:42:59,315 --> 00:43:00,881
Yes.
752
00:43:00,882 --> 00:43:04,015
Then one day,
they heard that in a country far
away,
753
00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:05,408
called Paraguay...
754
00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:12,676
When my wife and I
decided to separate,
755
00:43:12,677 --> 00:43:15,680
I moved into a sublet
not too far away from the house.
756
00:43:18,117 --> 00:43:19,770
A trial separation
757
00:43:19,771 --> 00:43:22,774
is what the court called it.
758
00:43:25,167 --> 00:43:28,517
My son was in Vermont,
attending college.
759
00:43:28,518 --> 00:43:31,695
His sister stayed at home
with her mom.
760
00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:34,481
And suddenly I was living alone.
761
00:43:37,527 --> 00:43:39,703
My wife and I worried
about the effect
762
00:43:39,704 --> 00:43:42,315
the separation would
have on our children,
763
00:43:43,098 --> 00:43:44,621
but we didn't worry
enough about it
764
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:47,886
to prevent the separation
from happening.
765
00:43:50,410 --> 00:43:53,368
And then suddenly,
my son was back in Boston,
766
00:43:53,369 --> 00:43:55,154
living with me.
767
00:43:56,503 --> 00:44:00,768
In Vermont, he'd ended up
in a hospital emergency room.
768
00:44:01,421 --> 00:44:05,381
He'd gone to a party and
overdosed
on vodka and the drug ecstasy.
769
00:44:07,906 --> 00:44:10,909
His mother and I
had rushed to Burlington.
770
00:44:12,432 --> 00:44:15,435
We'd been through this before.
771
00:44:16,697 --> 00:44:21,266
Adrian had had flare-ups
with alcohol and drugs,
772
00:44:21,267 --> 00:44:27,142
binge drinking, being expelled
from
high school for marijuana
possession.
773
00:44:28,578 --> 00:44:31,276
We’d sent him to a
wilderness program in Utah
774
00:44:31,277 --> 00:44:33,540
for kids with substance abuse
issues.
775
00:44:33,932 --> 00:44:38,284
And we found therapists and
psychiatrists to try to help
him.
776
00:44:39,285 --> 00:44:41,939
But whenever we thought things
were maybe getting a little
better,
777
00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:44,943
a new crisis would happen.
778
00:45:01,481 --> 00:45:06,573
Adrian, I’m totally supportive
of
you writing, editing, and
filming--
779
00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:11,098
I believe between
the internet, filming, writing
780
00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:13,318
and creating a clothing brand,
781
00:45:13,319 --> 00:45:16,582
I would be very well off,
I'd be happy with my life.
782
00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:19,411
Right, but you're undermining
yourself
by all of this other behavior.
783
00:45:19,412 --> 00:45:23,242
Like what happened last night,
you know,
why do you do those kinds of
things?
784
00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:25,199
Why?
785
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,333
Because I just...
Why?
786
00:45:28,638 --> 00:45:29,943
I don’t know
787
00:45:29,944 --> 00:45:31,902
You're going to hurt yourself
drinking and--
788
00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:33,077
I didn’t drink anything last
night.
789
00:45:33,078 --> 00:45:35,166
Well not last night, but...
790
00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:37,211
You did something
with some drugs last night
791
00:45:37,212 --> 00:45:39,823
and you know,
you could really hurt yourself.
792
00:45:39,824 --> 00:45:41,433
Well,
793
00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:43,478
it’s always a risk
794
00:45:43,479 --> 00:45:46,133
so is skiing, so it driving...
795
00:45:46,134 --> 00:45:47,874
It's not like I'm shooting up
heroin.
796
00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:52,575
No, I'm thankful for that at
least.
797
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,013
Go work on your resumes
and get them in.
798
00:45:56,014 --> 00:45:57,710
I'll go get some ice coffee.
799
00:45:57,711 --> 00:46:00,582
Can you give me a Venti
or whatever it is? The largest
one.
800
00:46:00,583 --> 00:46:01,670
Yeah.
801
00:46:01,671 --> 00:46:03,542
Can you get double espresso
shots?
802
00:46:03,543 --> 00:46:04,631
Yeah.
803
00:46:05,545 --> 00:46:07,328
Just want some caffeine, okay?
804
00:46:07,329 --> 00:46:08,983
Okay.
805
00:46:12,465 --> 00:46:15,685
Go cut your toenails at some
point.
806
00:46:23,476 --> 00:46:28,437
I was worried about my son's
risky
behavior with drugs and alcohol.
807
00:46:30,744 --> 00:46:33,660
But suddenly, there were issues
of my own to deal with.
808
00:46:38,491 --> 00:46:41,406
After your MRI,
the radiologist called me and
said.
809
00:46:41,407 --> 00:46:44,539
I'm calling you about,
Mr. McElwee, your patient.
810
00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:49,284
He goes,
“Wow, is he having any
symptoms?”
811
00:46:49,981 --> 00:46:52,678
He's not having headaches,
he's had no neurologic symptoms.
812
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,420
I said, no, I was just looking
for
813
00:46:55,421 --> 00:46:56,377
pressure.
814
00:46:56,378 --> 00:46:59,206
See, this is what I'm looking at
815
00:46:59,207 --> 00:47:02,557
is putting pressure on his brain
816
00:47:02,558 --> 00:47:05,692
has kind of collapsed
part of the ventricle.
817
00:47:06,432 --> 00:47:09,260
But you can see it here.
You can see how huge it is.
818
00:47:09,261 --> 00:47:12,176
It's a very important part
of the brain that there could be
819
00:47:12,177 --> 00:47:15,005
neurologic consequences as well.
820
00:47:15,006 --> 00:47:16,136
I mean, it's your brain.
821
00:47:16,137 --> 00:47:17,398
Chances are I'm going to survive
it.
822
00:47:17,399 --> 00:47:18,660
That seems.
823
00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:23,101
Almost certainly,
you're not going to die.
824
00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:27,670
We basically go down the
midline.
825
00:47:29,890 --> 00:47:32,762
To the tumor in that little
opening
that I mentioned to you,
826
00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:37,157
and then literally take the pulp
out
of the tumor and then
827
00:47:37,158 --> 00:47:41,118
bring in the “rind” of the
tumor,
if you will,
828
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,773
so that we get all the tumor
out.
829
00:47:44,296 --> 00:47:49,561
But then we put that dura,
the covering back, stitch it
back.
830
00:47:49,562 --> 00:47:52,912
And then we put the bone back in
with little metal plates and
screws,
831
00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:57,351
and then we put the skin and
scalp back on, and stitch that
back up,
832
00:47:57,352 --> 00:47:59,137
let you heal.
833
00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:04,619
So tell me, Ross,
in your darkest hours
834
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:07,623
what do you worry about?
835
00:48:10,278 --> 00:48:12,018
Well,
836
00:48:12,019 --> 00:48:15,369
I do worry about something
freakish happening.
837
00:48:15,370 --> 00:48:18,373
And me dying.
838
00:48:18,983 --> 00:48:21,767
And Adrian
839
00:48:21,768 --> 00:48:25,250
having not straightened himself
out.
840
00:48:25,511 --> 00:48:26,380
Right.
841
00:48:26,381 --> 00:48:28,687
I worry a lot about that.
842
00:48:28,688 --> 00:48:30,863
Adrian remains a question mark.
843
00:48:30,864 --> 00:48:32,430
I think he'll be fine, ultimately.
844
00:48:32,431 --> 00:48:35,476
But I don't want to leave
him now, I really don't.
845
00:48:35,477 --> 00:48:38,480
Right.
846
00:48:55,671 --> 00:48:58,021
I mean, a lot of people
would look at this,
847
00:48:58,022 --> 00:48:59,413
this nice
848
00:48:59,414 --> 00:49:02,199
construction that this
neighbor of mine is making
849
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,505
and just think of it as a flower
box.
850
00:49:04,506 --> 00:49:06,725
I mean, after all,
Spring is coming and
851
00:49:06,726 --> 00:49:09,729
the flowers will still
be in bloom, and,
852
00:49:10,382 --> 00:49:14,689
but I look at it with my surgery
two days away and I think,
853
00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:17,040
it's a coffin.
854
00:49:17,041 --> 00:49:21,914
It's a box.
A coffin for a human being.
855
00:49:21,915 --> 00:49:24,177
But for God's sake,
this is all morbid.
856
00:49:24,178 --> 00:49:30,053
There's a 95% chance of success
with this operation.
857
00:49:30,054 --> 00:49:33,622
So why do I dwell on the 5%?
Why?
858
00:49:36,408 --> 00:49:39,758
I think it's because
there's a 5% chance
859
00:49:39,759 --> 00:49:42,500
I won't see my daughter again.
860
00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:48,071
Mariah continues to be such a
joy,
such a sweetheart, and
861
00:49:48,072 --> 00:49:50,899
I would really miss her.
862
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:54,947
And the 5% chance
that I won't see my son.
863
00:49:54,948 --> 00:49:57,341
It's been difficult
the last two years with Adrian.
864
00:49:57,342 --> 00:49:59,386
He's twenty-one,
he's got all kinds of problems.
865
00:49:59,387 --> 00:50:02,955
But the kid also has
tremendous skills
866
00:50:02,956 --> 00:50:07,220
and abilities and eventually
he'll figure himself out.
867
00:50:07,221 --> 00:50:11,224
So all of that is figuring into
this very complex equation now
868
00:50:11,225 --> 00:50:14,141
as I think about
the next forty-eight hours.
869
00:51:29,956 --> 00:51:31,609
A week after my surgery,
870
00:51:31,610 --> 00:51:35,788
Adrian smuggled a small video
camera into my hospital room.
871
00:51:38,182 --> 00:51:42,055
He said he thought it
would help me recover faster.
872
00:51:43,491 --> 00:51:47,016
I remember being thrilled
to be filming again.
873
00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,283
I mean, you'll never know what
you'll get.
874
00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:56,287
The deep surprise of the food
tray...
875
00:52:06,297 --> 00:52:09,342
It meant a lot to me that he
would bring me the camera,
876
00:52:09,343 --> 00:52:12,084
and also that he took charge
of sending out bulletins
877
00:52:12,085 --> 00:52:13,955
to family and friends
878
00:52:13,956 --> 00:52:16,785
to let them know of
my recovery progress.
879
00:52:22,530 --> 00:52:26,533
I was finally allowed
to come home from the hospital.
880
00:52:26,534 --> 00:52:29,668
My wife and I put the divorce on
hold.
881
00:52:32,845 --> 00:52:36,543
During my rehab, I’d learned
that Adrian’s psychiatrist
882
00:52:36,544 --> 00:52:39,286
had diagnosed him
with bipolar disorder
883
00:52:40,592 --> 00:52:42,898
and had prescribed lithium to
treat it.
884
00:52:44,944 --> 00:52:48,426
Adrian reluctantly agreed to
go along with the treatment.
885
00:52:51,255 --> 00:52:53,560
A month after my return
from the hospital,
886
00:52:53,561 --> 00:52:57,174
my wife and I decided to
proceed with the divorce.
887
00:52:59,350 --> 00:53:02,656
After twenty-four years of
marriage,
suffice it to say,
888
00:53:02,657 --> 00:53:05,182
the breakup was very painful.
889
00:53:08,968 --> 00:53:14,102
And once again, we were both
worried
about the effect on our kids,
890
00:53:14,103 --> 00:53:17,106
but not worried enough
to avoid divorce.
891
00:53:19,892 --> 00:53:22,895
We sold the house and began
packing.
892
00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:09,114
Adrian, what are you?
893
00:54:09,115 --> 00:54:11,509
A squid.
894
00:54:15,991 --> 00:54:18,863
Until the movers took away
the TV console,
895
00:54:18,864 --> 00:54:23,216
I'd forgotten that years ago,
we placed a mousetrap behind it.
896
00:54:33,879 --> 00:54:36,750
A few months later,
I had to go to Prague to screen
897
00:54:36,751 --> 00:54:38,884
a retrospective of my films.
898
00:54:42,104 --> 00:54:44,410
A prospect I wasn't looking
forward to
899
00:54:44,411 --> 00:54:46,892
given everything that
was happening back home.
900
00:54:55,596 --> 00:54:58,599
The projectionist was
preoccupied.
901
00:55:12,918 --> 00:55:15,920
I slipped into the projection
booth.
902
00:55:15,921 --> 00:55:20,186
A scene from my wedding
ceremony happened to be playing.
903
00:55:22,231 --> 00:55:24,929
For richer, for poorer.
In sickness and in health.
904
00:55:24,930 --> 00:55:26,322
For richer, for poorer.
905
00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:27,497
In sickness and in health.
906
00:55:27,498 --> 00:55:29,542
To love and to cherish forever.
907
00:55:29,543 --> 00:55:31,763
To love and to cherish
forever.
To love and to cherish forever.
908
00:55:34,722 --> 00:55:37,811
I remember feeling
like stopping the projection,
909
00:55:37,812 --> 00:55:40,424
going into the theater and
making an announcement.
910
00:55:41,468 --> 00:55:44,428
We did not stay together
until death do us part.
911
00:55:45,167 --> 00:55:46,778
We're headed for divorce.
912
00:55:48,649 --> 00:55:52,914
This film might have been shot
as a documentary, but now it's
fiction.
913
00:55:54,307 --> 00:55:57,309
You think you might want
to get married someday?
914
00:55:57,310 --> 00:55:59,138
With you, Dada and Mama
915
00:56:01,314 --> 00:56:04,273
Only Mama and Dada.
916
00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:12,455
This was very easy to make.
917
00:56:12,456 --> 00:56:14,065
How long did it take you to make
it?
918
00:56:14,066 --> 00:56:16,415
Few days.
919
00:56:16,416 --> 00:56:19,376
And how did you know
what God looked like?
920
00:56:21,813 --> 00:56:24,380
Well, I don't really know.
921
00:56:24,381 --> 00:56:27,645
But this reminds me of God.
922
00:56:28,428 --> 00:56:31,562
It reminds me of God.
923
00:56:37,132 --> 00:56:40,135
I think God looks like this.
924
00:56:41,702 --> 00:56:44,574
Do you think that
God’s seen this painting?
925
00:56:44,575 --> 00:56:45,924
Sure.
926
00:56:46,315 --> 00:56:48,882
Well, not inside...
927
00:56:48,883 --> 00:56:53,671
I’ll show her or he out the
window.
928
00:56:57,022 --> 00:57:00,025
Open the window, please.
929
00:57:02,506 --> 00:57:03,376
Right there.
930
00:57:05,247 --> 00:57:09,034
This is a mysterious picture of
God.
931
00:57:10,252 --> 00:57:12,167
Now do you want to go camping?
932
00:57:12,646 --> 00:57:15,475
So I put the camera down
and went camping.
933
00:57:16,911 --> 00:57:21,699
But I remember thinking that God
sort of looked like a movie
camera here.
934
00:57:23,570 --> 00:57:28,009
Some of the footage I shot with
you
as a young child, it's just so
beautiful.
935
00:57:28,967 --> 00:57:31,578
And it’s because I shot it
with film and not with HD.
936
00:57:32,013 --> 00:57:33,188
I agree and I think that
937
00:57:34,102 --> 00:57:36,888
Going back to being younger
and being filmed
938
00:57:39,194 --> 00:57:41,458
The biggest regret I have
is you not putting me in...
939
00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:45,505
some kind of child ads
940
00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:49,813
I was a child star to some
extent, but...
941
00:57:49,814 --> 00:57:52,903
I think we did you a favor
by not trying to make you a
child star.
942
00:57:52,904 --> 00:57:55,862
I think you could’ve made
me a child star pretty easily
943
00:57:55,863 --> 00:57:57,690
I already was, I was like a
D-list,
944
00:57:57,691 --> 00:57:59,823
Z-list
945
00:57:59,824 --> 00:58:01,433
How do you put up with him?
946
00:58:01,434 --> 00:58:02,609
I don't know
947
00:58:05,612 --> 00:58:07,831
I just wonder if you ever think
about
948
00:58:07,832 --> 00:58:10,051
reversing the roles
sometimes a bit more
949
00:58:10,878 --> 00:58:11,792
Well, here.
950
00:58:13,011 --> 00:58:13,880
Got it?
951
00:58:13,881 --> 00:58:14,707
Yeah.
952
00:58:14,708 --> 00:58:15,535
Okay.
953
00:58:15,796 --> 00:58:16,927
I got it.
954
00:58:16,928 --> 00:58:17,710
Got it?
955
00:58:17,711 --> 00:58:18,102
I can film.
Got it?
956
00:58:18,103 --> 00:58:18,712
Okay.
957
00:58:20,235 --> 00:58:20,974
Oooh
958
00:58:20,975 --> 00:58:22,237
Don’t drop it.
959
00:58:22,586 --> 00:58:23,281
Where do I need to--
960
00:58:23,282 --> 00:58:24,151
Do you see me?
961
00:58:24,152 --> 00:58:24,804
Yeah!
962
00:58:24,805 --> 00:58:25,676
Okay.
963
00:58:26,807 --> 00:58:28,504
These haven’t been sorted out
yet.
964
00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:29,766
I can’t see them very well.
965
00:58:29,767 --> 00:58:31,245
They’re kind of tiny.
966
00:58:31,246 --> 00:58:32,465
In this camera.
967
00:58:33,988 --> 00:58:35,467
How can I adjust if the
camera’s not working very well?
968
00:58:35,468 --> 00:58:37,251
Well, I think you can
see them if you look.
969
00:58:37,252 --> 00:58:38,905
Just move the camera
until you see my hands
970
00:58:38,906 --> 00:58:40,560
holding the shells...
971
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:42,693
It’s right in the middle of
them, yeah!
972
00:58:45,130 --> 00:58:45,912
You know what?
973
00:58:45,913 --> 00:58:46,826
What?
You know what?
974
00:58:46,827 --> 00:58:48,088
I think you’re interesting.
975
00:58:48,089 --> 00:58:48,699
Why?
I think you’re interesting.
976
00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:53,311
I’m kind of boring I think.
977
00:58:53,312 --> 00:58:54,531
You’re like the man behind the
camera.
I’m kind of boring I think.
978
00:58:54,879 --> 00:58:56,488
No one gets to see you enough--
979
00:58:56,489 --> 00:58:59,143
Well they do, I get in front
of the camera now and then.
980
00:58:59,144 --> 00:59:01,841
For let's say, about one
percent of your films.
981
00:59:01,842 --> 00:59:03,364
Well, there's a reason for that.
982
00:59:03,365 --> 00:59:04,714
People don't want to see
a film about me.
983
00:59:04,715 --> 00:59:07,412
They want to see a film
about what I see.
984
00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:10,633
But perhaps...
985
00:59:10,634 --> 00:59:12,200
You could change it.
986
00:59:12,723 --> 00:59:14,637
Perhaps I'll change in the
future?
987
00:59:14,638 --> 00:59:16,639
Maybe.
988
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,032
It’s kind of blurry you know
that?
989
00:59:19,033 --> 00:59:20,338
Is it?
990
00:59:20,339 --> 00:59:21,818
Probably the eyepiece
needs to be adjusted.
991
00:59:21,819 --> 00:59:22,862
What?
992
00:59:22,863 --> 00:59:23,863
Why don't we turn it off for
now?
993
00:59:23,864 --> 00:59:25,344
Sure.
994
00:59:25,649 --> 00:59:28,651
All you have to do
is press this little button.
995
00:59:28,652 --> 00:59:29,608
Sure that’s the right one?
996
00:59:29,609 --> 00:59:31,828
Yup, it’s on video right now.
997
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:33,482
Okay.
998
00:59:38,313 --> 00:59:40,576
You want a three-egg omelet or
two?
999
00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:42,100
Three, please.
1000
00:59:43,275 --> 00:59:45,363
So, Adrian.
1001
00:59:45,364 --> 00:59:46,625
Yes?
1002
00:59:46,626 --> 00:59:48,018
Tell me what you think of your
dad.
1003
00:59:48,019 --> 00:59:50,282
I'm taking pretty good care of
you.
1004
00:59:50,761 --> 00:59:53,240
You always do but...
1005
00:59:53,241 --> 00:59:55,765
this place is not satisfactory.
1006
00:59:55,766 --> 00:59:57,680
This is temporary, Adrian.
1007
00:59:57,681 --> 01:00:00,422
You complain too much
about temporary housing.
1008
01:00:01,772 --> 01:00:04,775
I'm very affected by the
surroundings.
1009
01:00:07,342 --> 01:00:09,561
You've been angry at me a lot
1010
01:00:09,562 --> 01:00:10,650
about this and that.
1011
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:28,711
But seriously Adrian,
1012
01:00:28,712 --> 01:00:30,364
some of the things
1013
01:00:30,365 --> 01:00:32,977
that have gone down
over the last couple of years,
1014
01:00:34,152 --> 01:00:36,544
have been really...
1015
01:00:36,545 --> 01:00:39,548
painful and complicated and
1016
01:00:40,158 --> 01:00:42,289
we've made a few mistakes
along the way but--
1017
01:00:42,290 --> 01:00:43,682
Just a few?
1018
01:00:43,683 --> 01:00:44,422
Huh?
1019
01:00:44,423 --> 01:00:45,466
Just a few?
Huh?
1020
01:00:45,467 --> 01:00:47,512
Well, a few...
1021
01:00:47,513 --> 01:00:48,818
Maybe more than a few but,
1022
01:00:48,819 --> 01:00:51,299
you've certainly made
a lot of mistakes too.
1023
01:00:51,735 --> 01:00:56,043
And sometimes I don't think
you've been willing to admit
that.
1024
01:00:58,611 --> 01:01:00,786
We’ve already had that
discussion.
1025
01:01:00,787 --> 01:01:06,226
I’ve been through things that
are
not really comprehendible to
most people.
1026
01:01:06,227 --> 01:01:08,055
Like what?
1027
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,625
Things I don’t want to talk
about.
1028
01:01:13,974 --> 01:01:18,935
I think it may have really
triggered some of the worst,
1029
01:01:18,936 --> 01:01:22,461
some of the bad tendencies in
myself...
1030
01:01:23,114 --> 01:01:26,639
vices and anxiety.
1031
01:01:29,555 --> 01:01:32,165
Well, it was only meant to help
you.
1032
01:01:32,166 --> 01:01:34,733
Maybe we made some mistakes.
1033
01:01:34,734 --> 01:01:37,128
I think that's putting it
lightly.
1034
01:01:43,264 --> 01:01:44,961
Adrian, that’s going to fall.
1035
01:01:44,962 --> 01:01:47,704
It's not Dad, I live life on the
edge.
1036
01:01:52,491 --> 01:01:53,534
See...
1037
01:01:53,535 --> 01:01:55,015
Oh!
1038
01:02:01,456 --> 01:02:04,459
It could be worse.
1039
01:02:06,635 --> 01:02:07,940
Hi.
1040
01:02:07,941 --> 01:02:10,682
It’s me and Mark on
the phone together.
1041
01:02:10,683 --> 01:02:12,728
Hey Ross.
1042
01:02:12,729 --> 01:02:15,427
You know, here's the thing, I
think
television is so good right
now...
1043
01:02:15,862 --> 01:02:18,211
The team in Los Angeles called
again.
1044
01:02:18,212 --> 01:02:22,085
The “Sherman's March” television
series was now being reconceived
1045
01:02:22,086 --> 01:02:24,741
as a half-hour sitcom.
1046
01:02:26,568 --> 01:02:29,179
Almost three years into
development,
1047
01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:32,618
I was having even greater
doubts about the project.
1048
01:02:32,836 --> 01:02:35,968
What’s more, there wasn't
really anything for me to film
1049
01:02:35,969 --> 01:02:38,405
for my making-of documentary.
1050
01:02:38,406 --> 01:02:42,106
Just a series of meetings that
they'd rather I did not try to
film.
1051
01:02:44,848 --> 01:02:48,852
I found myself shooting random
moments out my window.
1052
01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:55,422
But then I was notified that a
proposal
I had submitted for a different
film,
1053
01:02:55,423 --> 01:02:58,644
one that had to be shot in
France had been approved.
1054
01:03:01,168 --> 01:03:05,303
The film would be called
“Photographic Memory”
1055
01:03:07,871 --> 01:03:10,524
How old is this map?
1056
01:03:10,525 --> 01:03:13,658
Well, it's got to be...
1057
01:03:13,659 --> 01:03:16,183
Thirty, thirty-five years, at
least.
1058
01:03:18,359 --> 01:03:21,580
Can you imagine going on a
trip like this someday, Adrian?
1059
01:03:23,277 --> 01:03:26,019
Wandering and not really
knowing where you’re going?
1060
01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:28,281
Feel like I’ve already done
that.
1061
01:03:28,282 --> 01:03:28,978
You have?
1062
01:03:28,979 --> 01:03:30,067
Where did you do it?
1063
01:03:33,418 --> 01:03:36,421
Places that I don’t really
want to talk about.
1064
01:03:37,161 --> 01:03:38,771
Okay...
1065
01:03:40,773 --> 01:03:45,690
For the film, I’d be retracing
my
steps when I was my son’s age.
1066
01:03:45,691 --> 01:03:50,783
back when I was unsure of
what I wanted to do with my
life.
1067
01:03:52,872 --> 01:03:54,699
While back in the US,
1068
01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:58,530
my son is trying to figure out
what he wants to do with his
life.
1069
01:04:05,798 --> 01:04:07,494
Hello Adrian.
1070
01:04:07,495 --> 01:04:08,365
Hi Dad.
1071
01:04:08,366 --> 01:04:09,976
Can you see me?
1072
01:04:10,455 --> 01:04:12,805
Yeah, I see...
1073
01:04:13,371 --> 01:04:15,241
Is that a camera?
1074
01:04:15,242 --> 01:04:19,159
There is a camera in the back of
me
and the ocean in front of me.
1075
01:04:19,681 --> 01:04:23,207
What do you do
with your days, Adrian?
1076
01:04:30,518 --> 01:04:32,650
Sometime after this
conversation,
1077
01:04:32,651 --> 01:04:36,784
Adrian decided to taper
off of his lithium prescription.
1078
01:04:36,785 --> 01:04:39,396
He said it had caused
him to gain a lot of weight
1079
01:04:39,397 --> 01:04:42,094
and made him feel sluggish.
1080
01:04:42,095 --> 01:04:47,231
He felt lithium deprived him
of his creativity, his spark.
1081
01:04:53,672 --> 01:04:57,719
“Photographic Memory” premiered
at The Venice Film Festival.
1082
01:05:02,768 --> 01:05:06,598
And since Adrian has appeared
in the film, he came along.
1083
01:05:08,252 --> 01:05:13,212
He showed me at least
a first draft of the film.
1084
01:05:13,213 --> 01:05:14,997
It was definitely a surprise at
first.
1085
01:05:14,998 --> 01:05:19,479
And if it was not my
father, I probably would
1086
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,569
I'm not saying press charges,
but I would definitely...
1087
01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:24,006
Oh, come on.
1088
01:05:24,007 --> 01:05:25,268
I'm making a joke.
1089
01:05:25,269 --> 01:05:27,749
But no, it would be a little bit
different
1090
01:05:28,707 --> 01:05:30,751
if it had not had that level of
intimacy.
1091
01:05:30,752 --> 01:05:33,189
But I think it's worth
saying that if you had really
1092
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:35,582
objected to any of the footage,
I would have taken it out first.
1093
01:05:35,583 --> 01:05:38,194
And he obviously has that
integrity.
1094
01:05:38,195 --> 01:05:41,632
Had I said, I really don't
feel comfortable with this,
1095
01:05:41,633 --> 01:05:43,851
of course, it would not be in
the film.
1096
01:05:43,852 --> 01:05:45,766
A lot of people ask,
1097
01:05:45,767 --> 01:05:48,117
“Were you uncomfortable seeing
a lot of these images on the
screen?”
1098
01:05:48,118 --> 01:05:51,295
“And projected,
put into the public light?”
1099
01:05:51,904 --> 01:05:53,035
The answer is yes.
1100
01:05:53,036 --> 01:05:56,212
A lot of it is definitely hard
to see.
1101
01:05:56,213 --> 01:05:59,432
In terms of growing up,
even in the past couple of
years.
1102
01:05:59,433 --> 01:06:03,742
Also compared to as when
I was a younger child, but...
1103
01:06:05,483 --> 01:06:07,049
It...
1104
01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:08,964
Even if it’s pretty brutal,
1105
01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,141
it does help, uh...
1106
01:06:12,055 --> 01:06:16,232
Once again, bring back the
entire theme of the film and
1107
01:06:16,233 --> 01:06:17,581
help strengthen it.
1108
01:06:17,582 --> 01:06:19,278
Plus now you get to go to film
festivals.
1109
01:06:19,279 --> 01:06:20,628
Right.
Plus now you get to go to film
festivals.
1110
01:06:21,281 --> 01:06:23,544
I’m also very tired.
1111
01:06:25,894 --> 01:06:28,767
I want to thank my guests.
1112
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,249
Thank you, thank you.
1113
01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:38,995
After Venice, we traveled to
other
film festivals together.
1114
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,843
As usual, Adrian brought
his camera along.
1115
01:07:04,846 --> 01:07:09,547
But I also noticed he was
making notes here and there.
1116
01:07:09,982 --> 01:07:12,985
I now wonder what he wrote
on that scrap of paper.
1117
01:07:19,122 --> 01:07:23,126
This is something he shot after
I went back to my room for the
night.
1118
01:07:27,304 --> 01:07:30,523
It might have been for a
music video he was making
1119
01:07:30,524 --> 01:07:33,049
but I'll never know for sure.
1120
01:07:37,009 --> 01:07:40,664
Adrian did have a penchant
for music videos.
1121
01:07:40,665 --> 01:07:44,756
Especially those which featured
his appearances at film
festivals.
1122
01:08:22,315 --> 01:08:24,447
When I eventually came upon this
video
1123
01:08:24,448 --> 01:08:27,406
Adrian made at the Venice Film
Festival,
1124
01:08:27,407 --> 01:08:30,106
I didn't know exactly how to
take it.
1125
01:08:33,631 --> 01:08:37,373
I mean, was a kind of
tongue-in-cheek parody of
himself
1126
01:08:37,374 --> 01:08:40,812
as a film festival big shot?
1127
01:08:42,466 --> 01:08:44,031
Or does it on some level,
1128
01:08:44,032 --> 01:08:47,297
actually represent the life
that he wanted for himself?
1129
01:08:49,386 --> 01:08:52,344
Not that there's anything
wrong with that per se,
1130
01:08:52,345 --> 01:08:55,740
but for Adrian,
it may have been poison.
1131
01:08:58,221 --> 01:09:01,048
I now worry that maybe filming
my son
1132
01:09:01,049 --> 01:09:04,878
and then letting him travel
with me to film screenings
1133
01:09:04,879 --> 01:09:07,969
somehow contributed
to his destabilization.
1134
01:09:09,101 --> 01:09:12,235
Maybe gave him a
distorted sense of reality.
1135
01:09:13,497 --> 01:09:17,283
And I’m haunted by the comment
a journalist made about the
film.
1136
01:09:17,718 --> 01:09:21,068
saying he felt I was
too tough on my son,
1137
01:09:21,069 --> 01:09:22,680
too judgmental.
1138
01:09:23,028 --> 01:09:25,465
Why do you do
those kinds of things?
1139
01:09:26,249 --> 01:09:27,074
Why?
1140
01:09:27,075 --> 01:09:29,208
I just...
1141
01:09:30,949 --> 01:09:32,254
I don't know...
1142
01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:32,776
You're going to hurt yourself
I don't know...
1143
01:09:32,777 --> 01:09:33,951
Drinking and--
1144
01:09:33,952 --> 01:09:35,866
I didn’t drink anything last
night.
1145
01:09:35,867 --> 01:09:36,346
Well, not last night but...
I didn’t drink anything last
night.
1146
01:09:37,738 --> 01:09:39,391
You did something with
some drugs last night and
1147
01:09:39,392 --> 01:09:42,134
you know, you could
really hurt yourself.
1148
01:09:43,266 --> 01:09:45,441
What the journalist did not know
1149
01:09:45,442 --> 01:09:47,661
because I didn’t explore it in
the film
1150
01:09:48,009 --> 01:09:51,229
was the seven years of
sporadic hell and suffering
1151
01:09:51,230 --> 01:09:54,450
my son had gone through
due to alcohol and drugs
1152
01:09:54,451 --> 01:09:57,105
and his psychiatric issues.
1153
01:09:58,846 --> 01:10:02,762
“Photographic Memory” offers up
a version of a kid who was
troubled, but
1154
01:10:02,763 --> 01:10:05,766
who would eventually be okay.
1155
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,116
I now think it was this version,
1156
01:10:09,117 --> 01:10:11,684
a fundamentally false version,
1157
01:10:11,685 --> 01:10:16,821
that Adrian ended up embracing
as the true version of himself.
1158
01:10:21,478 --> 01:10:25,089
Even after the period covered
in “Photographic Memory,”
1159
01:10:25,090 --> 01:10:27,483
Adrian continued to have
problems,
1160
01:10:27,484 --> 01:10:30,617
including minor run-ins
with the Boston police.
1161
01:10:34,186 --> 01:10:35,186
I even let him go.
1162
01:10:35,187 --> 01:10:37,363
There’s a dent on my hood, okay?
1163
01:10:47,808 --> 01:10:50,854
And maybe the last straw
for Adrian was that during
1164
01:10:50,855 --> 01:10:55,250
the manhunt for the culprits of
the
Boston Marathon terrorist
bombing,
1165
01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:58,992
FBI agents questioned him
briefly
because someone had sent in
1166
01:10:58,993 --> 01:11:03,650
an anonymous tip saying that
Adrian
resembled one of the bombers.
1167
01:11:05,086 --> 01:11:08,655
The agents quickly realized that
he
wasn't the man they were looking
for.
1168
01:11:12,355 --> 01:11:15,879
But Adrian decided it was
time to get out of Boston.
1169
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,707
As he told his friends,
1170
01:11:17,708 --> 01:11:20,711
even the FBI has me on their
radar here.
1171
01:11:22,930 --> 01:11:26,716
So he took a parcel of internet
domain names he'd accumulated,
1172
01:11:26,717 --> 01:11:29,066
and he sold them.
1173
01:11:29,067 --> 01:11:32,070
He moved to Colorado
to make a fresh start.
1174
01:11:43,429 --> 01:11:46,649
In watching what you'd
film in Colorado,
1175
01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:50,044
it was your ski footage
that moved me the most.
1176
01:11:57,835 --> 01:12:02,666
I was mesmerized by your shadow
when it floated over the snow.
1177
01:12:06,583 --> 01:12:08,235
And when you sneezed,
1178
01:12:08,236 --> 01:12:11,544
it was the same sneeze you
made when you were a little kid.
1179
01:12:28,779 --> 01:12:33,392
When I saw this footage, it was
suddenly
like being able to inhabit your
body.
1180
01:12:38,963 --> 01:12:42,139
I was reminded of how you
loved getting off the main trail
1181
01:12:42,140 --> 01:12:44,490
finding your own way down the
slope.
1182
01:12:49,234 --> 01:12:52,715
When you were a little boy
and while we were skiing
together,
1183
01:12:52,716 --> 01:12:56,372
we'd sometimes stop just
to listen to how quiet it was.
1184
01:12:59,418 --> 01:13:02,378
I wonder if that's what
you were doing here.
1185
01:13:12,866 --> 01:13:14,998
Shh.
1186
01:13:14,999 --> 01:13:17,393
Just listen.
1187
01:13:25,879 --> 01:13:28,577
I used to call myself a
filmmaker.
1188
01:13:28,578 --> 01:13:31,101
I used to call myself your
father.
1189
01:13:31,102 --> 01:13:33,408
I used to call myself a
filmmaker.
1190
01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:36,194
I used to call myself your
father.
1191
01:13:46,857 --> 01:13:49,642
I used to call myself your
father.
1192
01:14:18,758 --> 01:14:21,107
A few years go by,
1193
01:14:21,108 --> 01:14:25,461
then I meet Hyun Kim, a
filmmaker
from South Korea.
1194
01:14:26,723 --> 01:14:28,376
We fall in love.
1195
01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:32,293
She moves in with me.
1196
01:14:35,383 --> 01:14:39,649
Early in our relationship,
she asked me not to film her
face.
1197
01:14:40,388 --> 01:14:43,870
Did you commit some kind
of crime I don't know about?
1198
01:14:44,915 --> 01:14:49,267
No, it's because I don't
look natural on camera.
1199
01:14:51,617 --> 01:14:55,186
I just want to have my private
life.
1200
01:14:59,799 --> 01:15:02,802
Just because I'm not a performer
type,
1201
01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:06,806
I'm an observer.
1202
01:15:09,287 --> 01:15:12,115
You will be a mystery woman
in this film.
1203
01:15:12,116 --> 01:15:14,988
I love being mysterious.
1204
01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:22,952
Even though she won’t let me
film her face,
1205
01:15:22,953 --> 01:15:25,216
Hyun is wonderful.
1206
01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:32,528
At odd moments, I'm astounded
that we somehow found each
other.
1207
01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:41,058
My daughter, Mariah,
is getting to know Hyun.
1208
01:15:42,102 --> 01:15:43,625
Or a smaller one.
1209
01:15:43,626 --> 01:15:46,279
Well, I think that’s a good
size.
1210
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,544
We got pumpkins.
1211
01:15:56,856 --> 01:15:59,771
Hyun is making a film about
the effects of the Korean War
1212
01:15:59,772 --> 01:16:02,688
on three generations of her
family.
1213
01:16:05,735 --> 01:16:10,348
In watching it, I'm struck by
how
similar our filmmaking styles
are.
1214
01:16:14,744 --> 01:16:17,442
It’s as if we speak the same
language.
1215
01:16:24,318 --> 01:16:25,667
How do you feel?
1216
01:16:25,668 --> 01:16:27,017
Well, I’m very happy.
1217
01:16:28,671 --> 01:16:32,500
I just wish you would let me
film you the way you film me.
1218
01:16:34,285 --> 01:16:36,416
No, you refuse?
1219
01:16:36,417 --> 01:16:38,723
Not even for--
1220
01:16:38,724 --> 01:16:41,204
Not even for a wedding present?
1221
01:16:41,205 --> 01:16:43,249
Do you want to hold hands?
1222
01:16:43,250 --> 01:16:45,035
Oh, okay.
1223
01:16:45,688 --> 01:16:46,644
Are you ready?
1224
01:16:46,645 --> 01:16:47,558
Yes, we are.
Are you ready?
1225
01:16:47,559 --> 01:16:48,604
Okay.
1226
01:16:50,127 --> 01:16:52,172
Would you turn and face her
and then repeat after me?
1227
01:16:54,174 --> 01:16:55,827
I Ross.
1228
01:16:55,828 --> 01:16:56,698
I Ross
I Ross.
1229
01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:57,742
Take you, Hyun.
1230
01:16:57,743 --> 01:16:59,091
Take you, Hyun.
Take you, Hyun.
1231
01:16:59,092 --> 01:17:00,484
To be my wife.
1232
01:17:00,485 --> 01:17:01,659
To be my wife.
To be my wife.
1233
01:17:01,660 --> 01:17:03,356
And I pledge to you.
1234
01:17:03,357 --> 01:17:04,620
And I pledge to you.
And I pledge to you.
1235
01:17:05,185 --> 01:17:08,928
Justice Lopez's official
title is The Solemnizer.
1236
01:17:09,494 --> 01:17:13,280
As if to make official the
solemn
exchange of wedding vows.
1237
01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:14,977
My friendship,
1238
01:17:14,978 --> 01:17:16,065
My support,
1239
01:17:16,066 --> 01:17:17,675
My support,
My support,
1240
01:17:17,676 --> 01:17:21,418
It is probably a little strange
to her and not so solemn
1241
01:17:21,419 --> 01:17:25,596
That both Hyun and I are
recording this
event with our respective
cameras.
1242
01:17:25,597 --> 01:17:28,600
I now pronounce you husband and
wife.
1243
01:17:29,470 --> 01:17:31,733
Congratulations.
1244
01:17:31,734 --> 01:17:33,517
Congratulations, you're welcome.
1245
01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:35,084
Enjoy.
1246
01:17:35,085 --> 01:17:38,174
We decided not to invite any
friends or family members.
1247
01:17:38,175 --> 01:17:42,527
And so, we're married in the
presence of only Justice Lopez.
1248
01:17:45,138 --> 01:17:49,186
And the ghosts of former
city council members.
1249
01:17:57,498 --> 01:18:01,067
My daughter drops by to fix
dinner for Hyun and me.
1250
01:18:02,460 --> 01:18:04,983
So what do you think is going
to happen to you after leave
1251
01:18:04,984 --> 01:18:06,855
the program that you're in now?
1252
01:18:06,856 --> 01:18:09,859
I'm going to be working.
1253
01:18:10,424 --> 01:18:16,256
I'm going to find a job, work,
and then maybe go to another
college.
1254
01:18:17,127 --> 01:18:20,130
We're going to get another dog.
1255
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:28,965
Dad.
1256
01:18:29,226 --> 01:18:30,706
Mariah, come on, let’s go.
1257
01:18:33,752 --> 01:18:35,927
Hold the other side,
pick the other side up.
1258
01:18:35,928 --> 01:18:38,104
Let’s go, we're on a journey.
1259
01:18:43,283 --> 01:18:45,067
Okay, we're almost good.
1260
01:18:45,068 --> 01:18:47,069
I think this is good...
1261
01:18:47,070 --> 01:18:50,508
Mariah is growing up and
seems to be doing well.
1262
01:18:50,856 --> 01:18:53,858
My main concern continues
to be for my son,
1263
01:18:53,859 --> 01:18:57,471
who’s now been living
in Colorado for two years.
1264
01:19:06,045 --> 01:19:09,221
When we talk by phone, he tells
me he's making progress
1265
01:19:09,222 --> 01:19:12,051
on getting his media
business up and running.
1266
01:19:15,707 --> 01:19:19,755
He says he's been filming
demo reels for ski clients.
1267
01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:24,455
He says he misses us.
1268
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:28,980
The last time I visited Adrian,
1269
01:19:28,981 --> 01:19:31,288
he seemed to be doing okay.
1270
01:19:31,941 --> 01:19:36,032
But I always leave knowing I'm
probably not seeing the whole
picture.
1271
01:20:15,898 --> 01:20:19,901
Adrian had told me he’d begun
shooting footage for a
documentary
1272
01:20:19,902 --> 01:20:23,819
with and about his friends
and what their lives were like.
1273
01:20:26,125 --> 01:20:27,909
We're making our movie,
1274
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:29,693
and right now we're making it by
talking.
1275
01:20:29,694 --> 01:20:31,130
Exactly.
1276
01:20:31,522 --> 01:20:33,436
No one can help me.
1277
01:20:33,437 --> 01:20:35,438
No doctor can help me.
1278
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,222
No friend can help me.
1279
01:20:37,223 --> 01:20:40,226
Not in the end...
No one can help me except me.
1280
01:20:40,661 --> 01:20:42,707
If I can even help me...
1281
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,419
You’ll get a kick out of looking
at the book.
1282
01:21:00,725 --> 01:21:04,903
They’re thinking of every
part and every possible actor.
1283
01:21:05,512 --> 01:21:06,992
I could just be myself but
like...
1284
01:21:08,124 --> 01:21:09,472
You know?
1285
01:21:09,473 --> 01:21:10,603
You should be your dad,
though.
You know?
1286
01:21:10,604 --> 01:21:12,170
That would be pretty epic.
1287
01:21:12,171 --> 01:21:14,390
I mean, how could they
not cast you as your dad?
1288
01:21:14,391 --> 01:21:15,913
because you’re like the same
age.
1289
01:21:15,914 --> 01:21:16,914
I don’t know.
because you’re like the same
age.
1290
01:21:16,915 --> 01:21:17,915
It’s because they want like a...
1291
01:21:17,916 --> 01:21:18,785
You’d just have to grow a beard.
1292
01:21:18,786 --> 01:21:20,352
They want a star who has...
1293
01:21:20,353 --> 01:21:22,964
you know, some mainstream-like
shit.
1294
01:21:22,965 --> 01:21:24,922
Dude, all you have
to do is grow a beard
1295
01:21:24,923 --> 01:21:27,447
and you could be your dad so...
1296
01:21:30,059 --> 01:21:31,581
We're gonna find it.
1297
01:21:31,582 --> 01:21:33,496
Dude, that's fucking bullshit.
1298
01:21:33,497 --> 01:21:34,932
There's a piece of bud on the
ground.
1299
01:21:34,933 --> 01:21:36,891
Wait, wait, stop!
What's under this bag?
1300
01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,109
Ganja.
1301
01:21:38,110 --> 01:21:39,110
What is all this?
1302
01:21:39,111 --> 01:21:40,896
Is that all weed?
1303
01:21:41,897 --> 01:21:42,679
Is this weed?
1304
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,942
That’s his shit...
1305
01:21:44,290 --> 01:21:46,074
But the footage Adrian left
behind,
1306
01:21:46,075 --> 01:21:49,860
gradually became more
and more about drug use.
1307
01:21:49,861 --> 01:21:53,560
And especially his own
struggles with addiction.
1308
01:21:59,784 --> 01:22:02,787
So it's Oxy like Roxies?
1309
01:22:03,614 --> 01:22:06,616
What made you buy this,
what was in your motive?
1310
01:22:06,617 --> 01:22:07,704
It’s like candy.
1311
01:22:07,705 --> 01:22:09,184
Do you like candy?
1312
01:22:09,185 --> 01:22:10,751
No, I actually hate candy.
1313
01:22:40,129 --> 01:22:41,913
Listen.
1314
01:22:43,088 --> 01:22:45,786
I started off just like you.
1315
01:22:47,223 --> 01:22:48,746
I think that...
1316
01:22:50,008 --> 01:22:51,705
it’s going to be interesting to
document
1317
01:22:52,402 --> 01:22:55,927
regarding the American drug
problem
and prescription problem...
1318
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:58,930
and myself.
1319
01:23:00,236 --> 01:23:02,499
Which is probably the hugest
thing of all
1320
01:23:03,065 --> 01:23:05,981
I mean, not cause it’s me, but
because...
1321
01:23:06,633 --> 01:23:08,113
I mean...
1322
01:23:08,635 --> 01:23:12,509
I know you think this is
probably bullshit, but...
1323
01:23:24,434 --> 01:23:27,871
One night, we got a call
from a Colorado hospital
1324
01:23:27,872 --> 01:23:32,790
saying that Adrian has checked
into a drug detox unit for a
week.
1325
01:23:33,443 --> 01:23:37,315
When he emerges from detox,
he tells me his film has become
about how
1326
01:23:37,316 --> 01:23:40,405
drug addiction was wrecking his
life.
1327
01:23:40,406 --> 01:23:43,321
And how it ruined his
relationship with his
girlfriend.
1328
01:23:43,322 --> 01:23:47,283
Who had already been battling
addiction issues of her own.
1329
01:23:48,762 --> 01:23:53,070
I've not been in the habit of
bringing
my camera when I visited Adrian,
1330
01:23:53,071 --> 01:23:56,596
but this time he asked
me to bring it with me.
1331
01:24:00,948 --> 01:24:02,949
About three weeks ago,
1332
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:08,260
I came out of a treatment
place called Centennial Peaks.
1333
01:24:09,305 --> 01:24:12,263
It’s actually not in
Centennial, Colorado but
1334
01:24:12,264 --> 01:24:14,222
a little bit outside of Boulder.
1335
01:24:14,223 --> 01:24:18,443
And it was only a week long,
it was technically a psych ward.
1336
01:24:18,444 --> 01:24:21,926
So there's no shoelaces and...
1337
01:24:23,623 --> 01:24:24,929
What do you mean,
there was no shoelaces?
1338
01:24:26,322 --> 01:24:27,452
Because they...
1339
01:24:27,453 --> 01:24:30,151
Well, now I have some on but,
1340
01:24:30,152 --> 01:24:33,284
because they don't want
people to hang themselves
1341
01:24:33,285 --> 01:24:35,417
so they take away your
shoelaces.
1342
01:24:35,418 --> 01:24:38,682
It's pretty common with any
of those type of places, I
guess.
1343
01:24:39,552 --> 01:24:43,469
I was there to detox or withdraw
from
1344
01:24:45,471 --> 01:24:48,125
opiates or specifically,
1345
01:24:48,126 --> 01:24:51,086
black tar heroin and
1346
01:24:54,698 --> 01:24:56,438
You know, I think it helped a
lot and
1347
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,963
I’m trying to move forward from
there.
1348
01:24:59,790 --> 01:25:02,575
I was snorting OxyContin.
1349
01:25:03,881 --> 01:25:05,795
Not regularly enough where I...
1350
01:25:05,796 --> 01:25:09,843
had like experienced really
withdrawals from that before.
1351
01:25:10,453 --> 01:25:12,845
But I enjoyed it, you know.
1352
01:25:12,846 --> 01:25:17,676
It gave me anxiety
relief and an energy boost
1353
01:25:17,677 --> 01:25:19,548
and it was nice.
1354
01:25:19,549 --> 01:25:23,422
But, that became really hard
to find and really, really
expensive.
1355
01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:29,471
And so someone had
basically some powder.
1356
01:25:29,472 --> 01:25:34,824
and this kid, Darren,
he called me into his room
1357
01:25:34,825 --> 01:25:38,220
and you know, he
offered me a line of it and
1358
01:25:39,525 --> 01:25:43,006
you know, I never, I never
really...
1359
01:25:43,007 --> 01:25:46,270
planned on trying
heroin, I think most people
1360
01:25:46,271 --> 01:25:49,274
would say the same, but
1361
01:25:50,232 --> 01:25:52,842
it's basically the same
thing as the OxyContin...
1362
01:25:52,843 --> 01:25:55,497
and it is true I mean,
they're all opiates.
1363
01:25:55,498 --> 01:25:58,848
They're all basically the same
thing and bind to the receptors.
1364
01:25:58,849 --> 01:26:00,024
So...
1365
01:26:02,026 --> 01:26:04,897
I just was really sad at the
time and depressed or whatever
1366
01:26:04,898 --> 01:26:06,812
and I said, “What the hell”
and tried that.
1367
01:26:06,813 --> 01:26:09,250
And it's not like I just
got hooked after that.
1368
01:26:09,251 --> 01:26:11,209
It doesn't work like that.
1369
01:26:14,299 --> 01:26:17,520
You know, it's a slow
progression, and where this
last--
1370
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:21,131
the last year and a half,
basically
1371
01:26:21,132 --> 01:26:24,135
last two years, I really...
1372
01:26:24,875 --> 01:26:26,702
started using it daily.
1373
01:26:26,703 --> 01:26:29,706
I mean, all day and all night.
1374
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,578
It's quite, it's quite nice.
1375
01:26:33,579 --> 01:26:35,493
It's a ritual and it's relaxing.
1376
01:26:35,494 --> 01:26:37,756
You know, it just...
1377
01:26:37,757 --> 01:26:40,063
It's a little euphoric, it's
kind of like a warm blanket.
1378
01:26:40,064 --> 01:26:43,153
That's what kind of
the opiate feeling is.
1379
01:26:43,154 --> 01:26:48,593
And it gives you some
energy for a while, and...
1380
01:26:48,594 --> 01:26:50,029
Yeah,
1381
01:26:50,030 --> 01:26:52,162
make you sleep great
and all that type of stuff.
1382
01:26:52,163 --> 01:26:55,296
So it seems like
a wonder drug at first.
1383
01:26:55,297 --> 01:26:59,388
But then the reason people
start injecting is because...
1384
01:27:00,606 --> 01:27:03,565
I feel like most people
would know this, but
1385
01:27:03,566 --> 01:27:06,437
as your tolerance builds with
it,
1386
01:27:06,438 --> 01:27:09,310
it becomes not so cheap.
1387
01:27:09,311 --> 01:27:11,268
Because...
1388
01:27:11,269 --> 01:27:15,229
You know, I can smoke
through a gram in about
1389
01:27:15,230 --> 01:27:17,143
an hour if I wanted to.
1390
01:27:17,144 --> 01:27:18,580
Easily or less.
1391
01:27:18,581 --> 01:27:20,800
And that's eighty dollars, you
know.
1392
01:27:21,932 --> 01:27:24,935
I think there was a way in
which I should have known, or
1393
01:27:25,457 --> 01:27:28,460
did know, and yet
didn't want to admit it.
1394
01:27:29,113 --> 01:27:30,244
That you were in trouble.
1395
01:27:30,245 --> 01:27:33,334
If not with heroin, then with
opiates.
1396
01:27:33,335 --> 01:27:36,424
Percocet and OxyContin.
1397
01:27:36,425 --> 01:27:38,339
And I feel terrible about that.
1398
01:27:38,340 --> 01:27:40,428
I was too distracted.
1399
01:27:40,429 --> 01:27:42,952
With my so-called profession and
teaching.
1400
01:27:42,953 --> 01:27:44,868
I don't think... you know
1401
01:27:45,347 --> 01:27:47,913
It's not my fault,
you know, I'm not saying
1402
01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:50,220
this is all my fault, but
1403
01:27:50,221 --> 01:27:52,091
it makes me feel terrible.
1404
01:27:52,092 --> 01:27:54,399
Well, I feel bad about it too.
1405
01:27:54,791 --> 01:27:57,489
What happened with
you and your girlfriend?
1406
01:27:57,837 --> 01:28:01,711
I had no idea
that you were doing heroin.
1407
01:28:03,582 --> 01:28:06,454
We were completely
dependent on it, so
1408
01:28:06,455 --> 01:28:09,239
if we didn’t have it for even
ten hours
1409
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,373
we were sick as dogs.
1410
01:28:12,374 --> 01:28:13,853
It’s that quick.
1411
01:28:14,506 --> 01:28:15,985
Meaning that you were vomiting?
1412
01:28:15,986 --> 01:28:16,942
No
1413
01:28:16,943 --> 01:28:19,294
It’s called being dope sick.
1414
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:23,035
You start sweating.
1415
01:28:23,036 --> 01:28:25,386
And like I said, you’re...
1416
01:28:25,387 --> 01:28:29,304
You're fairly cold
but you're sweating a lot.
1417
01:28:32,263 --> 01:28:34,525
You know, there's all the
ailments.
1418
01:28:34,526 --> 01:28:38,487
You can't sleep, restless legs,
you’re just miserable,
1419
01:28:39,052 --> 01:28:42,055
miserable and more.
1420
01:28:42,578 --> 01:28:47,277
And so we would drive,
down 36th all the way to
1421
01:28:47,278 --> 01:28:50,281
wherever that technically was...
1422
01:28:52,675 --> 01:28:55,678
And you would meet these,
1423
01:28:56,940 --> 01:29:00,812
you know, the Mexican
dudes, the cartel, Mexican
cartel guys.
1424
01:29:00,813 --> 01:29:02,727
And we would,
1425
01:29:02,728 --> 01:29:05,731
give them $450 every three days
1426
01:29:06,602 --> 01:29:08,603
for about a year.
1427
01:29:08,604 --> 01:29:10,169
God...
1428
01:29:10,170 --> 01:29:11,475
That's a lot of money.
1429
01:29:11,476 --> 01:29:13,522
Yeah, it is.
1430
01:29:15,393 --> 01:29:17,089
And you haven't seen her since?
1431
01:29:17,090 --> 01:29:20,311
No, the last time I heard
from her was Christmas Day.
1432
01:29:23,183 --> 01:29:24,923
I really thought I was
going to marry her and
1433
01:29:24,924 --> 01:29:27,012
probably have kids and stuff, so
1434
01:29:27,013 --> 01:29:29,364
it’s sad, you know, I just--
1435
01:29:29,886 --> 01:29:32,975
I don't care about her past she
had some
1436
01:29:32,976 --> 01:29:34,368
fucked up things that her past
1437
01:29:34,369 --> 01:29:37,675
and whatnot but I guess
so do I in my own way, so
1438
01:29:37,676 --> 01:29:40,199
I can't really judge and I
didn't, so
1439
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,768
I thought I treated her really
well.
1440
01:29:44,291 --> 01:29:47,424
Introducing her to heroin is
not treating her well, Adrian.
1441
01:29:47,425 --> 01:29:49,295
But, I don’t mean like...
1442
01:29:49,296 --> 01:29:51,386
It’s not like what you think.
1443
01:29:56,782 --> 01:30:00,046
If I had never used...
1444
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,702
black tar heroin out here with
her
1445
01:30:04,964 --> 01:30:06,400
or in general
1446
01:30:06,401 --> 01:30:09,316
I would still be with her right
now.
1447
01:30:09,708 --> 01:30:11,406
But um...
1448
01:30:14,974 --> 01:30:19,370
I don’t know where she is,
or what’s going on...
1449
01:30:22,765 --> 01:30:25,506
Four months go by,
1450
01:30:25,507 --> 01:30:27,639
Adrian relapses.
1451
01:30:28,248 --> 01:30:33,949
He agrees to a five-week stay in
a
residential rehab facility
outside Denver.
1452
01:30:33,950 --> 01:30:37,909
His mother and I are allowed
to visit him for only a few
hours
1453
01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:40,435
on only one day.
1454
01:30:41,871 --> 01:30:44,481
After he finishes his stint in
rehab,
1455
01:30:44,482 --> 01:30:49,444
Adrian remains out west
in a series of sober houses.
1456
01:30:50,706 --> 01:30:53,186
And he keeps filming.
1457
01:31:08,506 --> 01:31:12,378
This is something Adrian filmed
in his apartment in Boulder.
1458
01:31:12,379 --> 01:31:16,079
Presumably for the documentary
he's making about his struggles.
1459
01:31:18,081 --> 01:31:20,910
He forgot to turn on his
microphone.
1460
01:32:12,178 --> 01:32:15,746
Adrian’s mother and I decide to
bring him home for Thanksgiving
1461
01:32:15,747 --> 01:32:18,794
and try to persuade him to
stay through Christmas.
1462
01:32:19,403 --> 01:32:23,538
His little sister will be able
to see
him for the first time in two
years,
1463
01:32:23,886 --> 01:32:27,193
and he’ll finally be able to
meet Hyun for the first time.
1464
01:32:32,242 --> 01:32:36,812
Off and on over the years, I've
taken
my kids to see Handel's Messiah.
1465
01:32:38,814 --> 01:32:41,598
In fact, the tradition
began when Adrian
1466
01:32:41,599 --> 01:32:43,340
was still a few weeks from being
born.
1467
01:32:44,515 --> 01:32:46,734
His mom and I went
when she was pregnant.
1468
01:32:46,735 --> 01:32:49,519
and I could place my
hand on her stomach, and
1469
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,044
I could feel Adrian
kicking rhythmically.
1470
01:32:54,656 --> 01:32:56,308
Now, here we are
1471
01:32:56,309 --> 01:32:58,790
twenty-seven years later.
1472
01:33:10,889 --> 01:33:14,152
We make an appointment
for Adrian with a psychiatrist
1473
01:33:14,153 --> 01:33:17,199
who agrees to prescribe
Suboxone,
1474
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,203
a drug which inhibits opioid
craving.
1475
01:33:21,552 --> 01:33:24,555
Adrian begins taking the
medication.
1476
01:33:29,473 --> 01:33:32,562
Adrian seems glad enough to be
back.
1477
01:33:32,563 --> 01:33:35,173
I take him to see a movie in the
theater,
1478
01:33:35,174 --> 01:33:37,481
something we haven't done in
years.
1479
01:33:37,916 --> 01:33:40,701
He fixes a salmon dinner
for Hyun and me.
1480
01:33:40,702 --> 01:33:44,009
He visits his mom
and his little sister.
1481
01:33:46,490 --> 01:33:48,970
He asks me to film him
performing a vaping trick
1482
01:33:48,971 --> 01:33:51,234
he learned in Colorado.
1483
01:34:16,433 --> 01:34:20,741
Adrian now says he might decide
to move back to Boston for good.
1484
01:34:20,742 --> 01:34:24,180
He's even made a list of
apartments that he's planning to
look at.
1485
01:34:25,094 --> 01:34:27,923
I'm quietly ecstatic.
1486
01:34:29,185 --> 01:34:31,404
Oh, there we go.
1487
01:34:32,275 --> 01:34:35,974
Yeah, that's right, like these
little pieces that are too long.
1488
01:34:37,410 --> 01:34:39,107
She cuts my hair sometimes.
1489
01:34:39,108 --> 01:34:40,674
No, I've never done that.
1490
01:34:40,675 --> 01:34:41,675
Yes, you have.
No, I've never done that.
1491
01:34:41,676 --> 01:34:42,764
You trimmed it.
1492
01:34:44,069 --> 01:34:45,679
I think her memory is
better than yours, Dad.
1493
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,203
Maybe.
1494
01:34:50,467 --> 01:34:52,861
Don't trust me.
1495
01:34:54,123 --> 01:34:55,776
Did you ask him if
he wanted a haircut?
1496
01:34:55,777 --> 01:34:57,735
Yes, he said yes.
1497
01:34:58,214 --> 01:34:59,562
With a pair of...
1498
01:34:59,563 --> 01:35:03,827
With a pair of scissors
I can cut your hair.
1499
01:35:03,828 --> 01:35:05,046
Cut my hair?
1500
01:35:05,047 --> 01:35:06,134
Yeah.
Cut my hair?
1501
01:35:06,135 --> 01:35:07,439
You think you could do a good
job?
1502
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:08,006
Yeah.
You think you could do a good
job?
1503
01:35:08,833 --> 01:35:10,094
Cut Dada’s hair, Adrian.
1504
01:35:10,095 --> 01:35:10,922
No!
1505
01:35:23,805 --> 01:35:26,197
A few days after Adrian died,
1506
01:35:26,198 --> 01:35:29,462
these flowers arrived sent by
friends.
1507
01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:40,646
He had relapsed and overdosed
1508
01:35:40,647 --> 01:35:45,000
and died in our bathroom
the day before Christmas.
1509
01:35:46,610 --> 01:35:50,745
Because he'd been taking
Suboxone
and seemed to be doing so well,
1510
01:35:51,049 --> 01:35:53,617
we were stunned.
1511
01:35:55,662 --> 01:35:59,710
The medical examiner later told
us
that it was fentanyl that had
killed him.
1512
01:36:00,624 --> 01:36:04,280
At the time, I didn't even
know what fentanyl was.
1513
01:36:42,535 --> 01:36:44,362
This startled me.
1514
01:36:44,363 --> 01:36:47,322
The movement in the screen of
his phone.
1515
01:36:47,323 --> 01:36:50,413
It was just my own
reflection but for a moment,
1516
01:36:50,892 --> 01:36:53,458
I kind of hallucinated
that it was Adrian
1517
01:36:53,459 --> 01:36:57,245
trying to film me through
the shattered glass
1518
01:36:57,246 --> 01:37:00,640
as if he were trapped just
beneath the surface.
1519
01:37:23,663 --> 01:37:26,666
Adrian scribbled this note and
left it here.
1520
01:37:27,406 --> 01:37:30,845
More a kind of note to himself I
think.
1521
01:37:31,454 --> 01:37:34,457
The note is hard to read, so
I'll read it.
1522
01:37:36,372 --> 01:37:39,026
I constantly live under
a bleak, threatening
1523
01:37:39,027 --> 01:37:41,290
feeling of everything being out
of place.
1524
01:37:42,030 --> 01:37:45,903
Feeling like there are multiple
versions of myself almost.
1525
01:37:46,469 --> 01:37:48,252
The worry, the insecurity,
1526
01:37:48,253 --> 01:37:51,430
the discomfort is simply awful.
1527
01:37:53,128 --> 01:37:54,693
I believe that at my core,
1528
01:37:54,694 --> 01:37:57,348
I am not a pathetic drug addict.
1529
01:37:57,349 --> 01:38:01,048
However, I can guarantee
you that anyone living in my
head
1530
01:38:01,049 --> 01:38:05,443
would turn to any immediate way
out.
1531
01:38:05,444 --> 01:38:10,797
The only actual hope of me
slowly
trying to move forward would
be...
1532
01:38:11,407 --> 01:38:12,886
And then something was spilled
here.
1533
01:38:12,887 --> 01:38:15,106
I can't really read it.
1534
01:38:15,759 --> 01:38:17,499
It goes on.
1535
01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:21,546
Amazing memories through
skiing, traveling, and past
life.
1536
01:38:21,547 --> 01:38:25,595
I so badly want to
experience this side of life.
1537
01:38:26,117 --> 01:38:29,120
And then it becomes illegible.
1538
01:39:07,898 --> 01:39:10,901
Way up high
1539
01:39:12,555 --> 01:39:20,170
And the dreams
that you dare to dream
1540
01:39:20,171 --> 01:39:27,439
Oh, why can't I?
1541
01:39:42,672 --> 01:39:45,021
What happened?
1542
01:39:45,022 --> 01:39:51,507
I think there's someone across
the street
who requires lots of medical
care.
1543
01:39:53,161 --> 01:39:57,686
The night Adrian died,
while I administered CPR,
1544
01:39:57,687 --> 01:40:00,907
Hyun had guided the
ambulance down the driveway.
1545
01:40:02,083 --> 01:40:05,259
While the police were collecting
information from me,
1546
01:40:05,260 --> 01:40:11,701
She had to watch helplessly as
the
EMTs continued to try to revive
Adrian.
1547
01:40:13,877 --> 01:40:16,400
Every time this happens,
I think about Adrian.
1548
01:40:16,401 --> 01:40:19,404
Me too.
1549
01:40:35,333 --> 01:40:38,989
This piano has been in my
family for several generations.
1550
01:40:40,077 --> 01:40:42,471
It's also been in a few of my
films.
1551
01:40:50,783 --> 01:40:53,786
It followed me from Charlotte to
Boston.
1552
01:40:55,788 --> 01:40:59,749
And since then, it's followed
me every time I've had to move.
1553
01:41:03,144 --> 01:41:06,885
And since I can't play it
anymore due to a wrist injury,
1554
01:41:06,886 --> 01:41:10,281
it's become a kind of
eight-hundred-pound albatross.
1555
01:41:14,372 --> 01:41:17,200
When I had to move
yet again, I finally decided
1556
01:41:17,201 --> 01:41:19,986
that I'd had enough
and I would give it away.
1557
01:41:22,424 --> 01:41:24,339
But Adrian asked me not to.
1558
01:41:25,209 --> 01:41:28,212
And now, Hyun plays it.
1559
01:41:46,839 --> 01:41:50,321
Adrian stayed with us
for a month and a half.
1560
01:41:51,844 --> 01:41:54,629
He was my nephew's age, but
1561
01:41:54,630 --> 01:41:58,459
strangely I felt he was
like my older brother
1562
01:41:58,460 --> 01:42:02,420
because he was very
caring and thoughtful.
1563
01:42:04,030 --> 01:42:08,164
When you told him you were
going to sell the piano, he
said,
1564
01:42:08,165 --> 01:42:12,996
“No, Dad, don't sell the piano.
I'm going to give it to my kids
someday.”
1565
01:42:14,215 --> 01:42:19,568
He was imagining
his future with his children.
1566
01:42:51,252 --> 01:42:53,253
A year after Adrian died,
1567
01:42:53,254 --> 01:42:56,734
the DEA Arrests dozens of
dealers, and
1568
01:42:56,735 --> 01:43:00,130
charges them with possession of
fentanyl.
1569
01:43:00,913 --> 01:43:04,351
It occurs to me,
though the chances are slim,
1570
01:43:04,352 --> 01:43:07,832
that one of the men being
arraigned
could’ve actually had his hands
on
1571
01:43:07,833 --> 01:43:11,620
a packet of fentanyl
that was sold to my son.
1572
01:43:12,795 --> 01:43:15,753
Filming isn’t allowed in the
courtroom
1573
01:43:15,754 --> 01:43:19,584
and I’m only able to get one
shot off
before the arraignment begins.
1574
01:43:20,890 --> 01:43:23,674
But as I watch the defendants
come before the judge
1575
01:43:23,675 --> 01:43:25,155
one after the other,
1576
01:43:25,634 --> 01:43:27,330
I find myself wondering,
1577
01:43:27,331 --> 01:43:30,595
is he the one
who sold fentanyl to my son?
1578
01:43:51,921 --> 01:43:57,230
As time goes by, I still have no
idea
what to do with the anger I feel
1579
01:43:57,231 --> 01:43:59,842
about losing Adrian.
1580
01:44:01,060 --> 01:44:04,368
Anger at China for exporting
illicit fentanyl.
1581
01:44:05,456 --> 01:44:08,459
Anger at the Mexican cartels
that distributed it.
1582
01:44:09,721 --> 01:44:13,550
Anger at the FDA for not
regulating OxyContin,
1583
01:44:13,551 --> 01:44:16,293
which is how the whole opioid
epidemic began.
1584
01:44:18,687 --> 01:44:22,821
Anger at my son for letting
himself
get sucked into this maelstrom.
1585
01:44:24,432 --> 01:44:30,915
Anger at myself for not
recognizing
how serious his psychological
issues were,
1586
01:44:30,916 --> 01:44:35,093
and anger at myself for not
having checked his bedroom
1587
01:44:35,094 --> 01:44:38,097
the night he died.
1588
01:44:48,151 --> 01:44:50,544
I only filmed three brief shots
of you
1589
01:44:50,545 --> 01:44:53,677
during the month and a
half that you stayed with us.
1590
01:44:53,678 --> 01:44:56,507
Filmed them casually.
1591
01:44:59,815 --> 01:45:04,646
Now that you're gone, sometimes
these shots seem like a
treasure.
1592
01:45:08,563 --> 01:45:12,871
But other times they opened
up a black hole for me.
1593
01:45:21,663 --> 01:45:23,272
For a year after you died,
1594
01:45:23,273 --> 01:45:24,926
maybe longer,
1595
01:45:24,927 --> 01:45:27,798
I had no desire to pick up a
camera.
1596
01:45:27,799 --> 01:45:31,586
I no longer knew what it meant
to try to be a filmmaker.
1597
01:45:32,326 --> 01:45:35,329
I could only keep watching
things you had filmed.
1598
01:45:36,025 --> 01:45:40,464
And as I did, I began seeing
the world through your eyes.
1599
01:45:46,644 --> 01:45:49,647
And so I watch, and I watch.
1600
01:45:55,261 --> 01:45:57,699
I watched the footage you shot,
1601
01:45:58,526 --> 01:46:00,745
the footage I shot.
1602
01:46:03,835 --> 01:46:06,708
I keep watching.
1603
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:25,161
But my fear now is that by
looking
at this footage over and over
again,
1604
01:46:26,075 --> 01:46:29,512
things will slowly start
shifting into making you seem
1605
01:46:29,513 --> 01:46:32,037
like a fictional character.
1606
01:46:34,257 --> 01:46:36,606
Someone who never existed
1607
01:46:36,607 --> 01:46:39,610
except on film.
1608
01:47:01,545 --> 01:47:03,546
The option rights
for the various versions
1609
01:47:03,547 --> 01:47:07,246
of the “Sherman’s March”
remake have lapsed.
1610
01:47:07,682 --> 01:47:12,817
No one had been able to figure
out a satisfactory way to pull
it off.
1611
01:47:17,779 --> 01:47:20,258
Then one day I receive a
proposal
1612
01:47:20,259 --> 01:47:23,915
for an entirely different
approach to an adaptation.
1613
01:47:26,135 --> 01:47:27,744
Yes, much better.
1614
01:47:27,745 --> 01:47:30,573
Again, we want to keep this
drama right at one-thirty-four.
1615
01:47:30,574 --> 01:47:32,270
What are you saying there?
1616
01:47:32,271 --> 01:47:33,576
You're asking him a question.
1617
01:47:33,577 --> 01:47:36,580
How can you be a filmmaker?
1618
01:47:38,321 --> 01:47:39,669
Asking him that question.
1619
01:47:39,670 --> 01:47:41,890
All right, mean that question.
1620
01:48:00,169 --> 01:48:00,951
So glad to see you
1621
01:48:00,952 --> 01:48:01,952
You look right at him
1622
01:48:01,953 --> 01:48:03,258
So glad to see you
1623
01:48:03,259 --> 01:48:05,390
You look right at him
for the first time
1624
01:48:05,391 --> 01:48:06,609
Hello Dede
1625
01:48:06,610 --> 01:48:07,871
I’m glad to meet you
1626
01:48:07,872 --> 01:48:09,612
Glad to meet you, too
1627
01:48:09,613 --> 01:48:12,267
Charleen has, to say the least
1628
01:48:12,268 --> 01:48:14,530
said a lot about you
1629
01:48:14,531 --> 01:48:15,879
Oh, and about you
1630
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,098
Would you stop,
would you stop?
1631
01:48:17,099 --> 01:48:18,055
Don’t touch the lens
1632
01:48:18,056 --> 01:48:19,535
Turn it off! This is important
1633
01:48:19,536 --> 01:48:22,496
This is not art, this is life!
1634
01:48:28,110 --> 01:48:32,896
Ross, that's what's
wrong with you
1635
01:48:32,897 --> 01:48:38,512
You've got to be
more passionate
1636
01:48:39,338 --> 01:48:43,559
How can you be a filmmaker
1637
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,735
if you don't have passion?
1638
01:48:45,736 --> 01:48:48,303
I have plenty of passion
1639
01:48:48,304 --> 01:48:50,479
I don’t even know her
1640
01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:52,655
That doesn’t matter
1641
01:48:52,656 --> 01:48:55,006
I don’t know anything about her
1642
01:48:55,441 --> 01:48:58,661
What matters is
the quality of your passion
1643
01:48:58,662 --> 01:49:01,491
So what that you don’t know her!
That's not relevant.
1644
01:49:02,231 --> 01:49:04,885
So what that you don’t know her
1645
01:49:04,886 --> 01:49:07,497
That's not relevant
1646
01:49:10,065 --> 01:49:14,286
I can't help but wonder what
you'd say about all this Adrian.
1647
01:49:14,896 --> 01:49:17,550
And if you were
helping me film this,
1648
01:49:17,551 --> 01:49:21,162
would you have advised
repositioning the camera?
1649
01:49:21,163 --> 01:49:25,080
Maybe, doing a few slow zooms?
1650
01:49:26,864 --> 01:49:29,867
I wonder what you would have
said.
1651
01:49:30,564 --> 01:49:32,956
“That's a good shot.”
1652
01:49:32,957 --> 01:49:35,524
You were so passionate, Adrian.
1653
01:49:35,525 --> 01:49:38,528
You were passionate
about everything.
1654
01:50:05,033 --> 01:50:06,730
Life is just...
1655
01:50:07,470 --> 01:50:11,952
so extraordinary in every way.
1656
01:50:11,953 --> 01:50:14,912
Everything I see is a surprise.
1657
01:50:15,957 --> 01:50:17,653
Look at the wall.
1658
01:50:17,654 --> 01:50:20,787
Those are just people that I
used to know and still think of,
1659
01:50:20,788 --> 01:50:22,789
and most of them are dead.
1660
01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:25,966
But I still think about them
and their brains.
1661
01:50:25,967 --> 01:50:28,273
I think about their brains
still.
1662
01:50:30,885 --> 01:50:33,626
My father's up there on the
wall.
1663
01:50:33,627 --> 01:50:35,540
My mother's up there on the
wall.
1664
01:50:35,541 --> 01:50:38,326
My brothers and sisters
are up there by the wall.
1665
01:50:38,327 --> 01:50:40,415
All my kids are on the wall.
1666
01:50:40,416 --> 01:50:42,809
And they come over to
my house all the time.
1667
01:50:42,810 --> 01:50:47,336
And we have a
rip-roaring good time.
1668
01:50:51,775 --> 01:50:54,430
Family is everything, I think.
1669
01:50:55,997 --> 01:51:00,304
The only person who's
not still together in our family
1670
01:51:00,305 --> 01:51:02,307
is you.
1671
01:51:07,965 --> 01:51:11,402
And I think you're
just amazing how you can
1672
01:51:11,403 --> 01:51:13,274
make something out of nothing.
1673
01:51:13,275 --> 01:51:16,146
That thing that I'm looking down
into
1674
01:51:16,147 --> 01:51:18,714
is the ugliest thing I ever saw.
1675
01:51:18,715 --> 01:51:21,325
I mean, it's an ugly
piece of equipment to me.
1676
01:51:21,326 --> 01:51:23,763
There's no beauty in it to me
1677
01:51:23,764 --> 01:51:25,287
because I don't understand it.
1678
01:51:25,722 --> 01:51:29,290
It looks at me and
I can't see myself in it
1679
01:51:29,291 --> 01:51:31,293
and therefore, it's doubly ugly.
1680
01:51:32,294 --> 01:51:35,949
It’s just a piece of equipment
that you've got to hold all the
time
1681
01:51:35,950 --> 01:51:37,646
and look at me with a grin,
1682
01:51:37,647 --> 01:51:40,781
I can't see anything but you
and I don't like this equipment.
1683
01:51:45,002 --> 01:51:47,135
Tell me about the dream
you had, Adrian.
1684
01:51:47,788 --> 01:51:50,312
We went to this lake.
1685
01:51:50,704 --> 01:51:54,489
It was a cool,
it was a beautiful, big lake
1686
01:51:54,490 --> 01:51:56,796
and we got in a submarine,
I looked through the window
1687
01:51:56,797 --> 01:51:57,927
And I saw--
1688
01:51:57,928 --> 01:52:00,451
We started diving and...
1689
01:52:00,452 --> 01:52:02,802
I saw a giant squid,
so three-dimensional
1690
01:52:02,803 --> 01:52:04,760
I thought it was real.
It was amazing.
1691
01:52:04,761 --> 01:52:05,805
Were you scared?
1692
01:52:05,806 --> 01:52:08,199
No, not at first.
1693
01:52:09,853 --> 01:52:11,549
And then we went down a tunnel.
1694
01:52:11,550 --> 01:52:14,074
So it was very claustrophobic.
1695
01:52:14,075 --> 01:52:15,989
And I screamed,
1696
01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:17,817
“We’re losing air!”
1697
01:52:17,818 --> 01:52:19,862
And then...
1698
01:52:19,863 --> 01:52:22,517
I screamed, “We’re losing air!”
in real life.
1699
01:52:22,518 --> 01:52:24,127
Like not in the dream.
1700
01:52:24,128 --> 01:52:26,347
But I screamed it,
like really screamed it.
1701
01:52:26,348 --> 01:52:28,089
And then I woke up.
1702
01:52:28,916 --> 01:52:31,788
I'm so relieved to be alive.
1703
01:52:34,965 --> 01:52:36,705
Somehow, as a kid,
1704
01:52:36,706 --> 01:52:39,970
you became obsessed
with giant squids.
1705
01:52:41,363 --> 01:52:42,450
When you were nine,
1706
01:52:42,451 --> 01:52:45,149
you wrote a poem about giant
squids.
1707
01:52:45,671 --> 01:52:49,849
The poem goes like this:
1708
01:52:49,850 --> 01:52:53,766
When squids feed,
there is love in the lead.
1709
01:52:53,767 --> 01:52:58,772
But when squids dive,
love is just a try.
1710
01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:03,514
In some ways, the poem
doesn't really make sense.
1711
01:53:03,515 --> 01:53:06,954
But in other ways it does,
at least for me.
1712
01:53:08,477 --> 01:53:10,652
I hope you knew, Adrian
1713
01:53:10,653 --> 01:53:12,872
that no matter
how deep you dived,
1714
01:53:12,873 --> 01:53:16,398
I never stopped loving you.
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