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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:52,922 --> 00:00:55,359 I used to call myself a filmmaker, 4 00:00:56,752 --> 00:00:59,494 a documentary filmmaker. 5 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:03,497 Although my films touched on broad issues 6 00:01:03,498 --> 00:01:07,197 like nuclear weapons proliferation or big tobacco. 7 00:01:07,763 --> 00:01:09,764 What was central to my films was always 8 00:01:09,765 --> 00:01:12,245 what was happening in my own life, 9 00:01:12,246 --> 00:01:14,291 often involving my family. 10 00:01:16,337 --> 00:01:19,340 And you, Adrian, were a big part of that. 11 00:01:21,951 --> 00:01:25,476 Can you cut a piece for me, Dada? 12 00:01:30,612 --> 00:01:33,701 Most of the time when I was filming scenes like this one, 13 00:01:33,702 --> 00:01:36,530 I didn't really have a purpose in mind. 14 00:01:36,531 --> 00:01:38,706 But I always did imagine that someday, 15 00:01:38,707 --> 00:01:41,230 I'd watch some of them with you. 16 00:01:41,231 --> 00:01:43,102 Say, when you were in your mid-thirties 17 00:01:43,103 --> 00:01:45,322 and had kids of your own. 18 00:01:48,412 --> 00:01:49,064 You ready? 19 00:01:49,065 --> 00:01:51,154 Yes. 20 00:01:52,547 --> 00:01:55,288 You made the little trap yourself. 21 00:01:55,289 --> 00:01:57,942 You once said it was like flying a kite 22 00:01:57,943 --> 00:02:00,250 except it was underwater. 23 00:02:00,685 --> 00:02:02,773 Whoa! 24 00:02:02,774 --> 00:02:04,689 How many did we get? 25 00:02:05,386 --> 00:02:07,169 That is a big one. 26 00:02:07,170 --> 00:02:09,215 That's the biggest one we ever caught. 27 00:02:09,216 --> 00:02:11,565 I think so, it’s huge. 28 00:02:11,566 --> 00:02:14,220 Do you think we should let some crayfish go? 29 00:02:14,221 --> 00:02:15,569 Yeah, I think we should. 30 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:19,225 Because this big one might be really angry. 31 00:02:19,226 --> 00:02:22,185 He might be, Adrian. 32 00:02:24,579 --> 00:02:28,016 I filmed you spontaneously, randomly, 33 00:02:28,017 --> 00:02:30,323 just a few minutes every month or so 34 00:02:30,324 --> 00:02:32,413 as you were growing up. 35 00:02:33,849 --> 00:02:35,371 But as the years went by, 36 00:02:35,372 --> 00:02:38,158 it added up to quite a bit of footage. 37 00:02:38,984 --> 00:02:41,072 I got something! I definitely got something. 38 00:02:41,073 --> 00:02:42,553 Great! 39 00:02:42,945 --> 00:02:45,207 I can probably use that for bait, Dada. 40 00:02:45,208 --> 00:02:46,905 Maybe. 41 00:02:48,255 --> 00:02:50,908 Hey, it's a little one. 42 00:02:50,909 --> 00:02:53,737 Why do you think you like fishing so much? 43 00:02:53,738 --> 00:02:56,175 I don’t know, I just love... 44 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:59,091 the deep surprise of the ocean. 45 00:03:01,616 --> 00:03:04,619 You never know what you'll catch. 46 00:03:06,447 --> 00:03:07,751 Adolescent. 47 00:03:07,752 --> 00:03:10,886 And adolescence is going through... 48 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:15,063 An adolescent is going through adolescence. 49 00:03:15,064 --> 00:03:17,501 That's exactly right. 50 00:03:18,285 --> 00:03:19,502 Which is the... 51 00:03:19,503 --> 00:03:20,895 Yeah, that's good? 52 00:03:20,896 --> 00:03:22,550 Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's good? 53 00:03:24,813 --> 00:03:28,425 Now, as I look back over that footage from those years, 54 00:03:29,078 --> 00:03:32,864 I found a partial record of what was happening in our lives then. 55 00:03:34,170 --> 00:03:36,171 What you were up to, and 56 00:03:36,172 --> 00:03:37,955 what I was up to 57 00:03:37,956 --> 00:03:40,219 and how we were both moving closer 58 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:42,831 to the day that you would die. 59 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:53,057 I look at this footage both to convince myself 60 00:03:53,058 --> 00:03:55,408 that you were alive, 61 00:03:55,409 --> 00:04:00,109 but also, to convince myself that you're gone. 62 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:07,856 It's been seven years since you died. 63 00:04:08,683 --> 00:04:12,556 And I still miss you every day. 64 00:04:47,156 --> 00:04:50,332 This is Adrian with his mom, Marilyn. 65 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:53,293 In the film, I called “In Paraguay.” 66 00:04:57,645 --> 00:05:00,560 “In Paraguay” touches on various subjects, 67 00:05:00,561 --> 00:05:04,564 like the devastation caused by a series of disastrous wars 68 00:05:04,565 --> 00:05:08,264 initiated by Paraguayan dictators. 69 00:05:16,838 --> 00:05:20,711 But it mostly dealt with the complexities of foreign adoption 70 00:05:23,932 --> 00:05:28,328 We were in Paraguay to adopt our daughter, Mariah. 71 00:05:36,074 --> 00:05:37,248 We need some more dirt. 72 00:05:37,249 --> 00:05:38,815 I mean more... 73 00:05:38,816 --> 00:05:40,340 More bricks. 74 00:05:43,821 --> 00:05:46,432 We ended up being stuck in limbo in Paraguay 75 00:05:46,433 --> 00:05:49,565 for three months during the adoption process. 76 00:05:49,566 --> 00:05:54,745 And I found my camera gravitating more and more towards my son. 77 00:05:57,095 --> 00:06:00,097 This is a restaurant house. 78 00:06:00,098 --> 00:06:02,753 There's even a bed. 79 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,456 One minute. 80 00:06:13,503 --> 00:06:16,245 What would you like to eat? 81 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:20,814 Do you have any patatas fritas? 82 00:06:20,815 --> 00:06:23,730 Sit down and go over there. 83 00:06:23,731 --> 00:06:25,820 I will be there in a second. 84 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:30,999 Serve yourself salad, please. 85 00:06:31,652 --> 00:06:34,655 Serve yourself salad. 86 00:06:37,222 --> 00:06:39,921 Mmm, tasty. 87 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:44,011 Even then, I could see that this was, for me, 88 00:06:44,012 --> 00:06:48,190 a kind of golden period of family life and of filming. 89 00:06:56,590 --> 00:06:58,200 Boy, that was good. 90 00:06:58,722 --> 00:07:00,897 Mom, it takes a while to eat that! 91 00:07:00,898 --> 00:07:02,682 I gulped it. I'm sorry, I was starving. 92 00:07:02,683 --> 00:07:04,510 I was a pig, eating a pig. 93 00:07:04,511 --> 00:07:07,295 Hey waiter, my steak is as hard as a rock! 94 00:07:07,296 --> 00:07:08,732 No, it isn't. 95 00:07:09,733 --> 00:07:13,170 I was in love with my wife, in love with my kids, 96 00:07:13,171 --> 00:07:15,999 and in love with the pleasure and practice of filming 97 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,003 moments in life that unfolded before the camera. 98 00:07:46,074 --> 00:07:49,860 “In Paraguay” premiered at the Venice Film Festival. 99 00:07:51,906 --> 00:07:54,385 Venice was a great way to premiere the film. 100 00:07:54,386 --> 00:07:55,778 But as it turned out, 101 00:07:55,779 --> 00:07:58,781 further screenings were postponed indefinitely 102 00:07:58,782 --> 00:08:00,740 until my wife and I could come to terms 103 00:08:00,741 --> 00:08:05,702 with putting another chapter of our family life in public. 104 00:08:13,536 --> 00:08:17,061 It had already taken me years to finish “In Paraguay” 105 00:08:18,933 --> 00:08:21,456 And as the years went by, 106 00:08:21,457 --> 00:08:24,939 things at home became more and more strained. 107 00:08:31,423 --> 00:08:34,992 Marilyn had made it clear that she preferred not to be filmed anymore. 108 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,691 And with the kids now in their teens, 109 00:08:38,692 --> 00:08:41,738 that seemed to be more or less the feeling around the house. 110 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,829 Mariah? 111 00:08:53,141 --> 00:08:54,533 Please may I touch it? 112 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:55,926 Wait a second, honey. 113 00:08:57,362 --> 00:08:58,841 Tell me what you did. 114 00:08:58,842 --> 00:09:00,147 I did pee-pee. 115 00:09:00,148 --> 00:09:01,235 Did you really? 116 00:09:01,236 --> 00:09:01,801 Yes Did you really? 117 00:09:01,802 --> 00:09:02,497 Upstairs? 118 00:09:02,498 --> 00:09:03,368 Yes Upstairs? 119 00:09:03,630 --> 00:09:05,413 Let me touch it. 120 00:09:05,414 --> 00:09:06,370 Over there? 121 00:09:06,371 --> 00:09:07,763 You can touch it here. 122 00:09:07,764 --> 00:09:09,852 What do you see? 123 00:09:09,853 --> 00:09:11,114 Rainbow. 124 00:09:11,115 --> 00:09:12,813 Rainbow? Rainbow. 125 00:09:13,944 --> 00:09:15,337 Mariah? 126 00:09:15,772 --> 00:09:17,251 What page are you on, sweetheart? 127 00:09:17,252 --> 00:09:20,647 I have to go find out. 128 00:09:21,865 --> 00:09:27,435 Somehow, the so-called golden period of filming moments from my family life 129 00:09:27,436 --> 00:09:30,091 seemed to be coming to an end. 130 00:09:32,484 --> 00:09:35,704 Adrian, I asked you to keep the sound down until I finished filming. 131 00:09:35,705 --> 00:09:37,577 It is down. 132 00:09:39,187 --> 00:09:40,796 Don't film me right now. 133 00:09:40,797 --> 00:09:42,232 Dada, 134 00:09:42,233 --> 00:09:43,712 I'm going to make something for you as a present. 135 00:09:43,713 --> 00:09:44,713 Oh, good. 136 00:09:44,714 --> 00:09:48,239 It's called a "Cooking TV". 137 00:09:49,023 --> 00:09:50,414 What's a Cooking TV? 138 00:09:50,415 --> 00:09:53,113 It’s the good kind of TV, 139 00:09:53,114 --> 00:09:56,551 not the bad kind that makes you stupid. 140 00:09:56,552 --> 00:09:58,293 It's the good kind. 141 00:09:58,598 --> 00:10:00,294 Where do you see the image on it? 142 00:10:00,295 --> 00:10:04,603 Well, the image is on the paper right here, 143 00:10:04,604 --> 00:10:07,215 But it's sort of like a puppet show. 144 00:10:08,259 --> 00:10:12,001 And I go behind it and then I talk. 145 00:10:12,002 --> 00:10:14,308 Then the story comes through. 146 00:10:14,309 --> 00:10:16,833 But I have to write something on there at the end. 147 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:23,578 I love you, Dada. 148 00:10:23,579 --> 00:10:25,841 I love you too, honey. 149 00:10:25,842 --> 00:10:28,278 You're so cute, Dada. 150 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:29,976 Is that going to come on the film? 151 00:10:29,977 --> 00:10:31,717 Probably Is that going to come on the film? 152 00:10:31,718 --> 00:10:33,370 Why do you say probably? 153 00:10:33,371 --> 00:10:35,372 Whether I edit it out or not. 154 00:10:35,373 --> 00:10:37,070 What? Whether I edit it out or not. 155 00:10:37,071 --> 00:10:39,463 It depends on whether I edit it out, cut it out of the film. 156 00:10:39,464 --> 00:10:41,117 I want you to keep it on. 157 00:10:41,118 --> 00:10:43,250 Okay, I'll keep it on. 158 00:10:43,251 --> 00:10:44,600 Okay! 159 00:10:48,430 --> 00:10:52,172 In nearly all my films, my family life had been the lens through which 160 00:10:52,173 --> 00:10:55,176 I’ve tried to make sense of the world around me. 161 00:10:57,047 --> 00:11:00,223 In fact, my mother's favorite expression was 162 00:11:00,224 --> 00:11:03,575 everything begins and ends with family. 163 00:11:06,013 --> 00:11:08,362 But although my kids had loved being filmed 164 00:11:08,363 --> 00:11:10,886 and I had loved filming them, 165 00:11:10,887 --> 00:11:13,890 they’d apparently had enough. 166 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:32,038 I wasn't sure where to go from here. 167 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:34,606 Until I got a phone call. 168 00:11:37,958 --> 00:11:39,219 I have to be quiet though 169 00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:41,526 because my father's asleep upstairs. 170 00:11:43,528 --> 00:11:45,660 You know, I think he already has enough questions 171 00:11:45,661 --> 00:11:49,229 about the validity of my film project without... 172 00:11:49,230 --> 00:11:52,319 seeing me dressed up like this, 173 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,931 talking to my own camera. 174 00:11:55,671 --> 00:11:56,410 Hi Sis. 175 00:11:56,411 --> 00:11:58,020 Hi! Hi Sis. 176 00:11:58,021 --> 00:11:58,934 Where's Dad? 177 00:11:58,935 --> 00:12:00,284 Oh, he's way back there. 178 00:12:00,894 --> 00:12:02,808 The call was from a Hollywood producer 179 00:12:02,809 --> 00:12:06,376 who was interested in trying to remake one of my documentaries 180 00:12:06,377 --> 00:12:08,075 as a fiction film. 181 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:14,036 I made “Sherman's March” back in my mid-thirties, 182 00:12:14,037 --> 00:12:16,822 when I was still single and my family and friends 183 00:12:16,823 --> 00:12:20,348 were starting to become concerned about my singleness. 184 00:12:23,177 --> 00:12:24,003 Hello, Dede. 185 00:12:24,004 --> 00:12:25,395 Hi, I'm glad to meet you. 186 00:12:25,396 --> 00:12:26,875 Glad to meet you, too. Hi, I'm glad to meet you. 187 00:12:26,876 --> 00:12:28,834 Charleen has to say the least said a lot about you. 188 00:12:28,835 --> 00:12:30,618 Oh, and about you. 189 00:12:30,619 --> 00:12:33,100 Would you stop? Would you stop? 190 00:12:34,405 --> 00:12:35,623 Don't touch that lens. 191 00:12:35,624 --> 00:12:37,494 I can't help but touch it. Turn it off! 192 00:12:37,495 --> 00:12:40,410 This is important. This is not art, this is life! 193 00:12:40,411 --> 00:12:42,022 Alright. 194 00:12:44,633 --> 00:12:48,679 “Sherman's March” was the film where I found my footing as a filmmaker 195 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:52,772 by making the decision to film things that were happening in my own life. 196 00:12:57,689 --> 00:13:00,082 I come from a family of doctors. 197 00:13:00,083 --> 00:13:02,999 Grandfather, father and brother. 198 00:13:09,092 --> 00:13:13,618 And at first, my way of making films seemed a little strange to them. 199 00:13:15,707 --> 00:13:18,493 I’ll be glad when that big eye is gone. 200 00:13:19,015 --> 00:13:21,975 But eventually, they got used to it. 201 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:31,897 Making “Sherman's March” had been an adventure, 202 00:13:31,898 --> 00:13:35,815 a road movie, in which I didn't know where the road would lead. 203 00:13:36,772 --> 00:13:39,557 But I did manage to meet a few women along the way. 204 00:13:44,911 --> 00:13:48,174 Now that there was an offer to remake “Sherman's March,” 205 00:13:48,175 --> 00:13:51,525 I felt somewhat protective of my film. 206 00:13:51,526 --> 00:13:55,442 I decided to talk it over with my sort of trusted advisors, 207 00:13:55,443 --> 00:13:57,053 my brother and sister. 208 00:13:58,185 --> 00:14:01,013 I think it's a wonderful movie, 209 00:14:01,014 --> 00:14:03,537 and I think it deserved to be on the big screen. 210 00:14:03,538 --> 00:14:05,147 It was on the big screen... 211 00:14:05,148 --> 00:14:06,366 Bigger screen. 212 00:14:06,367 --> 00:14:08,717 Can a movie bomb twice? Bigger screen. 213 00:14:10,458 --> 00:14:13,068 Tommy, be nice! 214 00:14:13,069 --> 00:14:15,636 I think it's a very bad idea. 215 00:14:15,637 --> 00:14:17,246 Really? 216 00:14:17,247 --> 00:14:19,248 You really think that? 217 00:14:19,249 --> 00:14:21,120 Depends on-- 218 00:14:21,121 --> 00:14:23,600 on what he does with it? 219 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:25,037 Well, that's my concern, too. 220 00:14:25,038 --> 00:14:26,603 Can he make a good film? 221 00:14:26,604 --> 00:14:28,823 But if you have some kind of control on that 222 00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:30,433 and they say you're going to be one of the producers, 223 00:14:30,434 --> 00:14:31,827 then maybe it'll work. 224 00:14:33,524 --> 00:14:37,310 Yes, that's a very intelligent thing my brother just said. 225 00:14:37,311 --> 00:14:38,137 Well, I'm a doctor. 226 00:14:38,138 --> 00:14:39,268 He's a doctor... 227 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:40,008 What do you expect? He's a doctor... 228 00:14:40,009 --> 00:14:41,662 I'm an animal activist. 229 00:14:41,663 --> 00:14:44,666 I train the wild beast! 230 00:14:46,189 --> 00:14:48,409 Yes, I work with animals. 231 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:53,370 So how are you going to control this guy? 232 00:14:54,545 --> 00:15:00,289 So I won't be reading the New York Times Friday movie review 233 00:15:00,290 --> 00:15:04,425 saying, “Ross McElwee sold his soul.” 234 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,165 One star. 235 00:15:06,166 --> 00:15:07,949 One star and a half... 236 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:09,559 Maybe. One star and a half... 237 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,605 Well, they'll let me have some input. 238 00:15:11,606 --> 00:15:15,348 They want my input in constructing the script. 239 00:15:15,349 --> 00:15:16,784 Well, that sounds good. 240 00:15:16,785 --> 00:15:19,308 Yeah, I don't really think they have a clear idea 241 00:15:19,309 --> 00:15:20,788 as to how they’re gonna do it? 242 00:15:20,789 --> 00:15:22,442 I do think if you decide not to do it, 243 00:15:22,443 --> 00:15:24,967 then you'll always second-guess yourself. 244 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:26,925 Well, I'm taking the first step. 245 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:28,448 What? 246 00:15:28,449 --> 00:15:29,449 I'm taking the first step we’ll see what happens... 247 00:15:29,450 --> 00:15:31,931 I think that's a good idea. 248 00:15:34,411 --> 00:15:36,412 I went to Los Angeles. 249 00:15:36,413 --> 00:15:39,633 A meeting had been set up for me to talk with Steve Carr, 250 00:15:39,634 --> 00:15:43,464 the director of a string of commercially successful comedies. 251 00:15:44,334 --> 00:15:46,553 When did you first see “Sherman's March?” 252 00:15:46,554 --> 00:15:50,426 The first time it played on PBS I was living in New York, 253 00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:53,516 and it played on channel thirteen, which is a New York affiliate for PBS. 254 00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:54,430 Sure. 255 00:15:54,431 --> 00:15:55,866 And I guess I was waiting for 256 00:15:55,867 --> 00:15:58,086 Monty Python's Flying Circus to come on, 257 00:15:58,087 --> 00:16:00,349 and I stumbled onto it. 258 00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:05,615 And I remember my mom was watching it, too. 259 00:16:05,616 --> 00:16:08,183 I caught it at the very beginning 260 00:16:08,184 --> 00:16:11,361 and it just unfolded for me. 261 00:16:13,276 --> 00:16:17,454 You think any of it really has anything to do with your lifestyle? 262 00:16:18,542 --> 00:16:20,501 The way you dress, the way you live? 263 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,159 And it was a world I hadn't seen 264 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,640 the characters just seem to one on top of the next 265 00:16:30,641 --> 00:16:33,731 become more and more interesting to me. 266 00:16:39,824 --> 00:16:43,698 And then as I got caught up in your likability and the journey. 267 00:16:44,612 --> 00:16:47,483 On February 16th, 1865 268 00:16:47,484 --> 00:16:50,487 Sherman's troops massed here on the banks of the Congaree River. 269 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:54,316 I got the opportunity to see it quite a few times. 270 00:16:54,317 --> 00:16:57,276 And then it always just stuck with me and I always loved it 271 00:16:57,277 --> 00:16:59,365 and didn't see it for years and years 272 00:16:59,366 --> 00:17:01,976 but always remember it and would talk about it with friends. 273 00:17:01,977 --> 00:17:04,718 Then when Jason and I got together, 274 00:17:04,719 --> 00:17:08,113 I've always had this idea about the movie 275 00:17:08,114 --> 00:17:10,028 that I thought this could be, 276 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:14,162 and it always included every bit of the documentary that I've seen 277 00:17:14,163 --> 00:17:15,598 and that I cherish. 278 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:19,298 And now the experience I have of actual filmmaking 279 00:17:19,299 --> 00:17:22,127 and how to tell the story of a film being made. 280 00:17:22,128 --> 00:17:24,129 I am bored with your singleness. 281 00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:27,132 Well, I've made attempts at correcting this situation. 282 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:30,178 Yeah, well, you see, that's the other thing that's boring, failure. 283 00:17:30,179 --> 00:17:31,484 It is time to get on it. 284 00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:33,573 You have been insufficient in this quest 285 00:17:33,574 --> 00:17:35,488 and so I have to take over. 286 00:17:35,489 --> 00:17:36,793 I have to. 287 00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,753 See now Charleen wants Amy Adams to play her. 288 00:17:39,536 --> 00:17:41,276 Yeah, she's great. 289 00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:42,625 She's actually on our list. 290 00:17:42,626 --> 00:17:43,409 Is she really? 291 00:17:43,410 --> 00:17:44,497 Yeah. Is she really? 292 00:17:44,498 --> 00:17:46,152 She’s actually on our list for... 293 00:17:46,891 --> 00:17:48,501 She’s on almost every one of our lists. 294 00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:49,328 Yeah, yeah She’s on almost every one of our lists. 295 00:17:49,329 --> 00:17:50,024 She’s great. 296 00:17:50,025 --> 00:17:51,418 Oh my God, the best. 297 00:17:53,768 --> 00:17:57,336 My son, Adrian, wanted me to give Steve and his team a crack 298 00:17:57,337 --> 00:18:00,514 at turning my old film into a work of fiction. 299 00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:03,734 It was kind of a running joke between us. 300 00:18:04,431 --> 00:18:06,432 He'd say, 301 00:18:06,433 --> 00:18:09,392 “I like your documentaries, Dad, but it's time to make a real movie.” 302 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,178 He was becoming more and more interested in 303 00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:15,529 filmmaking as a possible career. 304 00:18:17,139 --> 00:18:18,966 And it did occur to me that maybe 305 00:18:18,967 --> 00:18:23,101 the remake of “Sherman’s March” might also open a door for him 306 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:26,757 to enter the world of what he called “real movies.” 307 00:18:31,371 --> 00:18:33,981 Does it look okay through the viewfinder? 308 00:18:33,982 --> 00:18:35,591 It is what it is, Dad. 309 00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:37,854 Is what it is... 310 00:18:37,855 --> 00:18:41,685 It's a still shot that you picked out yourself. 311 00:18:43,165 --> 00:18:46,167 I finally agreed to sell the rights to “Sherman's March.” 312 00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:49,997 And in turn, I secured the rights to make a new documentary 313 00:18:49,998 --> 00:18:53,175 about the fictional remake of my old documentary. 314 00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:59,616 I asked Adrian if he'd like to film his dad signing the contract. 315 00:19:02,489 --> 00:19:04,229 I'm saying that, 316 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:05,840 I'm surprised you don’t at least want a slow zoom or something. 317 00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:09,190 Go ahead and do a slow zoom. 318 00:19:09,191 --> 00:19:12,280 Well, let me sign this, and then you can do a slow zoom. 319 00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:14,282 It's boring to have it running, that's the kind of shots you can get 320 00:19:14,283 --> 00:19:16,458 when you’re filming yourself. 321 00:19:16,459 --> 00:19:19,723 The point of having a cameraman, is you can actually get-- 322 00:19:20,942 --> 00:19:23,726 a more interesting shot. 323 00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:25,989 Okay, take the camera off the tripod and get a more interesting-- 324 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:27,687 I don't want to take it off the tripod. 325 00:19:27,688 --> 00:19:28,644 Well, move the tripod. I don't want to take it off the tripod. 326 00:19:28,645 --> 00:19:30,038 Well, move the tripod. Alright. 327 00:19:39,526 --> 00:19:40,874 That is so peculiar. 328 00:19:40,875 --> 00:19:43,878 I can't believe it. It's so peculiar. 329 00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:48,230 The irony of “Sherman's March” being undertaken by somebody else. 330 00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:51,537 Who is it that made that decision? 331 00:19:51,538 --> 00:19:53,365 And how can we escape him? 332 00:19:53,366 --> 00:19:55,845 No, I don't want to escape him. I want him to succeed. 333 00:19:55,846 --> 00:20:00,154 I think, you know, if he can make a really good independent 334 00:20:00,155 --> 00:20:02,549 fiction film from “Sherman's March,” 335 00:20:03,245 --> 00:20:04,506 I'd be elated. 336 00:20:04,507 --> 00:20:06,943 I just don't quite know how it can be done. 337 00:20:06,944 --> 00:20:09,424 I mean, I'm saying that I can't be replaced 338 00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:11,078 neither can you. 339 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,691 And it'll be hilarious for us to see people try. 340 00:20:15,953 --> 00:20:18,782 Charleen Swansea is one of my oldest friends 341 00:20:19,827 --> 00:20:24,614 I met her in high school when she was teaching a poetry workshop. 342 00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:30,097 You know, I learned a lesson from the Ezra Pound debacle, 343 00:20:30,098 --> 00:20:32,447 which is that it didn't fucking matter. 344 00:20:32,448 --> 00:20:35,930 I mean, it didn't matter what Ezra Pound thought. 345 00:20:39,673 --> 00:20:42,370 Charleen has been there for many of the important moments 346 00:20:42,371 --> 00:20:44,591 in my family life. 347 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:52,686 Adrian, hi darling! 348 00:21:00,302 --> 00:21:02,172 This baby has got some-- 349 00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:04,305 This is such a smart baby! 350 00:21:04,306 --> 00:21:06,568 He’s been around a camera a bit. 351 00:21:06,569 --> 00:21:08,788 That’s not what makes him smart, 352 00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:11,052 being around a camera makes you stupid! 353 00:21:11,748 --> 00:21:14,055 This is a smart baby. 354 00:21:16,187 --> 00:21:21,670 So, I'll come in on August the eighth and if I'm not going to come in 355 00:21:21,671 --> 00:21:25,326 it would be because I'm on so much medication 356 00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:28,938 that it's really hard for me to think ahead. 357 00:21:28,939 --> 00:21:33,900 And I hate to do the tests that you're going to do on memory 358 00:21:33,901 --> 00:21:35,771 when I can't remember my name, 359 00:21:35,772 --> 00:21:39,688 let alone some questions that you would be asking me. 360 00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:42,736 They're testing... 361 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:46,216 Old people 362 00:21:46,217 --> 00:21:48,044 about how 363 00:21:48,045 --> 00:21:50,264 accurate their memories are. 364 00:21:50,265 --> 00:21:54,573 But it's part of a scientific, data-driven study. 365 00:21:54,574 --> 00:21:56,575 It’s a long... It even has a name. 366 00:21:56,576 --> 00:21:58,707 I can't remember the name of it 367 00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:00,449 because I didn't care. 368 00:22:01,494 --> 00:22:05,018 And that's how you remember something you care about it usually. 369 00:22:05,019 --> 00:22:05,889 Anyway. 370 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:09,893 What did you ask me? 371 00:22:11,417 --> 00:22:13,592 How is your memory, Charleen? Speaking of memory. 372 00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:18,119 I don't know it's too complicated, it's like a beehive. 373 00:22:18,859 --> 00:22:20,903 But do you find that your 374 00:22:20,904 --> 00:22:23,819 short-term memory is holding together okay as you get older? 375 00:22:23,820 --> 00:22:24,994 No, of course not. 376 00:22:24,995 --> 00:22:26,256 Oh, boy. No, of course not. 377 00:22:26,257 --> 00:22:30,086 I can remember odd pieces of stories 378 00:22:30,087 --> 00:22:33,568 and things about 379 00:22:33,569 --> 00:22:36,355 things I remember about you. 380 00:22:37,094 --> 00:22:40,097 They just pop up. 381 00:22:42,578 --> 00:22:44,971 I don't know that's how memory is, it just 382 00:22:44,972 --> 00:22:47,061 it surprises me. 383 00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:56,505 You filming? 384 00:22:57,288 --> 00:22:58,332 Is it filming? 385 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:00,291 Yes. Is it filming? 386 00:23:01,858 --> 00:23:04,861 Bravo, Bravo! 387 00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:08,169 Bravo, Bravo! 388 00:23:16,525 --> 00:23:20,442 Looking at this now, you seem as alive as ever... 389 00:23:21,835 --> 00:23:25,882 in a kind of half-life that now represents you. 390 00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:32,888 I mean, you're alive here in this footage, 391 00:23:32,889 --> 00:23:36,023 but you're no longer alive in the real world. 392 00:23:41,681 --> 00:23:44,727 Where's your favorite place that we've been to Adrian? 393 00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:46,902 What about Munich? 394 00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:48,643 Well, that was nice. 395 00:23:48,644 --> 00:23:50,429 We were only there for one day. 396 00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:53,256 I was? 397 00:23:53,257 --> 00:23:54,606 Munich Film Festival? 398 00:23:54,607 --> 00:23:56,042 That's right, remember? 399 00:23:56,043 --> 00:23:59,132 And that's the place where the film had a problem. 400 00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:01,264 That's right. 401 00:24:01,265 --> 00:24:05,094 It got all confused because they put the wrong numbers on the leaders. 402 00:24:05,095 --> 00:24:06,618 What happens when you do that? 403 00:24:06,619 --> 00:24:09,622 Well, people can't tell which reel comes first. 404 00:24:10,579 --> 00:24:16,585 Because what if you put a two here and you put a one at the end. 405 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,458 That's what happened. 406 00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:23,505 And it took them a long time to get the leader straightened up. 407 00:24:28,205 --> 00:24:31,600 The story I thought I was telling with my filmmaking, 408 00:24:32,601 --> 00:24:35,343 the story of lives lived over decades. 409 00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:37,998 Is now disjointed. 410 00:24:40,566 --> 00:24:42,350 Confused. 411 00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:50,271 The reels are all out of order. 412 00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,884 First, there is a father, 413 00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:58,888 and he has a son, me. 414 00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:04,893 But then it starts all over. 415 00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:09,333 I am now the father. And I have a son, you. 416 00:25:15,992 --> 00:25:20,127 But something goes awry, something goes off script. 417 00:25:26,481 --> 00:25:29,005 And then suddenly you're gone. 418 00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:32,225 Did you like the wedding scene? 419 00:25:32,226 --> 00:25:34,053 Yeah, I love that part. 420 00:25:34,054 --> 00:25:35,620 That's your favorite part? 421 00:25:35,621 --> 00:25:37,056 I love when you get married That's your favorite part? 422 00:25:37,057 --> 00:25:39,189 with Mama. 423 00:25:40,408 --> 00:25:43,410 You think you might want to get married someday? 424 00:25:43,411 --> 00:25:46,282 With you, Dada and Mama. 425 00:25:46,283 --> 00:25:48,068 Only with Mama or Dada? 426 00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:51,375 Mama and Dada. 427 00:25:51,941 --> 00:25:54,074 Only Mama and Dada. 428 00:26:00,297 --> 00:26:02,299 So yes, you're gone. 429 00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:05,867 Except you're not gone. 430 00:26:05,868 --> 00:26:08,567 Not entirely. 431 00:26:10,481 --> 00:26:11,743 Because I still have all these 432 00:26:11,744 --> 00:26:15,486 moments with you I captured on film. 433 00:26:17,401 --> 00:26:19,664 Adrian, 434 00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:22,449 I know you think that I should be working for a Hollywood production. 435 00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:23,625 You can though, that's why-- 436 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:25,714 I don't understand it. 437 00:26:27,542 --> 00:26:29,283 It's like Steve Carr does, 438 00:26:29,631 --> 00:26:31,937 he works on the moneymakers first. 439 00:26:31,938 --> 00:26:35,375 Then he has time to do whatever he likes. 440 00:26:35,376 --> 00:26:37,725 Doesn't have to worry about money. 441 00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:40,424 So you want me to be more like Steve Carr? 442 00:26:42,252 --> 00:26:44,340 Adrian, I'm trying to do films my way. 443 00:26:44,341 --> 00:26:46,300 Yeah, but-- 444 00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:49,171 No one always gets their way 445 00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:50,608 just like you said to me, 446 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:51,958 you can't, you know... 447 00:26:53,176 --> 00:26:54,829 you can't just start at the top. 448 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:57,136 You might have to be someone's coffee bitch for a while. 449 00:26:57,137 --> 00:27:02,010 Or file paperwork or run little errands in a trailer. 450 00:27:02,011 --> 00:27:05,623 For a couple of years before you even do anything meaningful. 451 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,320 And so plenty of people do stuff like that. 452 00:27:07,321 --> 00:27:09,628 So I don't see why you're above that. 453 00:27:10,411 --> 00:27:12,586 But I've done that. That's how I began my career. 454 00:27:12,587 --> 00:27:14,719 And you've been successful but I'm saying, 455 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,156 why not just do some blockbuster hits here? 456 00:27:17,157 --> 00:27:19,724 Oh, Adrian, it's not as if I can just opt to do a famous-- 457 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:22,727 You’ve been offered to do commercials for Jaguar 458 00:27:22,728 --> 00:27:24,467 and you turned them down. 459 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:25,817 Well, that was years ago, Adrian. and you turned them down. 460 00:27:25,818 --> 00:27:26,905 Why would you turn something like that down? 461 00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:28,080 It just doesn't make sense to me. 462 00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:29,690 Because I didn't want to do TV commercials. 463 00:27:29,691 --> 00:27:31,736 But it's not always about what you want to do. 464 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:35,697 You're blessed, it's such a spoiled attitude to have. 465 00:27:41,224 --> 00:27:42,791 Had to get that out of the way. 466 00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:48,753 Ow, fuck! 467 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:51,757 I told you that was my worst fall. 468 00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:54,020 Yeah, good job Adrian. 469 00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:58,066 I'm done. 470 00:27:58,067 --> 00:28:00,679 I almost hit you in the face. 471 00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:04,770 I'm going to do something big, and it's not going to be... 472 00:28:06,075 --> 00:28:08,381 It's not going to be from a degree. 473 00:28:08,382 --> 00:28:11,253 I'm not going to graduate with a degree in English or film 474 00:28:11,254 --> 00:28:13,081 and do this and that. 475 00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:17,825 I would love to work for HBO, for example, or an internship for... 476 00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:20,915 Steve Carr and get involved in that project heavily, and then 477 00:28:20,916 --> 00:28:24,005 maybe they really like me and they move up one position more 478 00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:25,398 and then one position more. 479 00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:29,272 You know, that's how it happens I understand that. 480 00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:34,015 But on my own, I think it's going to be through a book 481 00:28:34,016 --> 00:28:36,278 I've been trying to write. 482 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,454 It's based on my life, my experiences, 483 00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:41,458 and I've had a lot of ridiculous experiences. 484 00:28:42,329 --> 00:28:45,287 And weren’t you working on a screenplay based on the novel? 485 00:28:45,288 --> 00:28:46,593 Yeah. 486 00:28:46,594 --> 00:28:48,638 But then again, I also... 487 00:28:48,639 --> 00:28:52,381 I came up with this company, None Higher, Nonehigher.com 488 00:28:52,382 --> 00:28:54,644 It's up, check it out. 489 00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:58,214 Right now, it's just basically a music blog. 490 00:28:59,433 --> 00:29:04,959 But my ultimate goal is to have a line of T-shirts. 491 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,572 Once again, another thing I'm procrastinating. 492 00:29:15,405 --> 00:29:20,758 At the time, Adrian was pursuing multiple projects in multiple fields, 493 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,240 but almost all of them seem to connect back to filmmaking. 494 00:29:46,654 --> 00:29:47,697 What? 495 00:29:47,698 --> 00:29:48,350 Hi. 496 00:29:48,351 --> 00:29:49,526 Hey 497 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:50,875 Can I watch you? 498 00:29:50,876 --> 00:29:51,920 Yeah, sure. 499 00:30:02,975 --> 00:30:03,844 What? 500 00:30:03,845 --> 00:30:05,106 How old did you say you are? 501 00:30:05,107 --> 00:30:06,151 Me? 502 00:30:06,152 --> 00:30:07,326 Eight years old. 503 00:30:07,327 --> 00:30:08,718 Yeah, my sister’s nine. 504 00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:10,720 She is? I’m turning nine. 505 00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:11,330 Really? 506 00:30:11,331 --> 00:30:12,114 Yeah. 507 00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:14,551 So you’re in first grade? 508 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:15,813 What? 509 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:16,248 You’re in first grade then? 510 00:30:16,249 --> 00:30:16,814 No! 511 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:18,120 I mean, second! 512 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:19,426 Third? 513 00:30:22,995 --> 00:30:23,909 Oh! 514 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:26,345 You gotta be careful. 515 00:30:26,346 --> 00:30:27,694 I know. Okay. 516 00:30:27,695 --> 00:30:29,566 I can’t really do it but, you just go like-- 517 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,830 When I have all my protection stuff, 518 00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:35,006 You go like this, like this-- 519 00:30:35,007 --> 00:30:35,920 Yeah 520 00:30:35,921 --> 00:30:37,486 Like that, like that. Yeah 521 00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:39,271 And then I can turn it around like that. 522 00:30:39,272 --> 00:30:40,185 That’s pretty sick. 523 00:30:40,186 --> 00:30:41,622 Yeah. 524 00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:46,845 Like that. 525 00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:15,002 Oh, sorry. 526 00:31:15,003 --> 00:31:16,004 It’s okay. 527 00:31:16,570 --> 00:31:18,877 Two, Three. 528 00:31:21,053 --> 00:31:22,054 Alright, cut. 529 00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:47,165 So I went back home, 530 00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:49,037 back to the south. 531 00:31:50,256 --> 00:31:52,735 The people producing the “Sherman's March” remake 532 00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:57,740 asked me to record narration they had written for a sample reel. 533 00:31:57,741 --> 00:32:01,049 It would be composed of actual shots from “Sherman's March.” 534 00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:04,834 They've already set me up on dates with a few nice women, 535 00:32:04,835 --> 00:32:07,316 and I've been looking at some of my-- 536 00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:09,709 Take two 537 00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:11,711 They've already set me up on dates with a few nice women, 538 00:32:11,712 --> 00:32:14,715 and I've been looking up some of my ex-girlfriends as well. 539 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,284 I'm holding out hope that romantic love is still possible 540 00:32:19,285 --> 00:32:21,330 here in the modern South. 541 00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:25,116 A few weeks later, 542 00:32:25,117 --> 00:32:27,815 they sent me the finished sample reel. 543 00:32:29,469 --> 00:32:32,123 So I went back home, 544 00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:34,387 back to the south. 545 00:32:40,741 --> 00:32:42,785 Leave us alone. 546 00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:45,920 You better leave us alone. 547 00:33:04,156 --> 00:33:08,682 The fiction film as you know of it... 548 00:33:10,075 --> 00:33:13,512 Steve and his team in Los Angeles had struck a deal with 549 00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:15,819 a well-known cable television network. 550 00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:19,474 Rather than a feature film, the idea would now be to adapt 551 00:33:19,475 --> 00:33:23,175 “Sherman's March” into a dramatic television series. 552 00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:27,047 Oh well, TV would be fine. 553 00:33:27,048 --> 00:33:29,093 Gosh, I don't know where it stands right now. 554 00:33:29,094 --> 00:33:31,791 It started off as a narrative feature. 555 00:33:31,792 --> 00:33:34,924 It then morphed into a series. 556 00:33:34,925 --> 00:33:36,274 Right, the AMC TV show. 557 00:33:36,275 --> 00:33:37,231 That's right. Right, the AMC TV show. 558 00:33:37,232 --> 00:33:39,582 With Steve directing the pilot... 559 00:33:40,235 --> 00:33:43,760 I was beginning to have my doubts about the whole project. 560 00:33:46,589 --> 00:33:49,243 I needed to be back in the world I had filmed. 561 00:33:49,244 --> 00:33:51,941 To remind myself that my friends were real people 562 00:33:51,942 --> 00:33:55,729 living real lives, not actors following a script. 563 00:33:58,427 --> 00:34:00,038 Does it look the same? 564 00:34:01,126 --> 00:34:03,563 Oh, I see it. Oh, neat! 565 00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:09,655 As Steve and the network began talking to writers, 566 00:34:09,656 --> 00:34:12,789 I decided to go back to North Carolina. 567 00:34:13,486 --> 00:34:16,575 I had learned that my friend, Philip Osborne, 568 00:34:16,576 --> 00:34:19,927 who had appeared in “Sherman's March,” had died. 569 00:34:24,366 --> 00:34:25,149 Tension that up? 570 00:34:25,150 --> 00:34:26,541 Yeah Tension that up? 571 00:34:26,542 --> 00:34:27,587 Now put it back on there and see what happens. 572 00:34:28,414 --> 00:34:30,328 I bet you it’ll work just great. 573 00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:31,069 Yeah I bet you it’ll work just great. 574 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,332 Philip's son, Phil Jr., 575 00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:36,683 had taken over the family business. 576 00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:37,858 Philip? 577 00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,207 Good to see you, how you been doing Ross? 578 00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:41,295 I'm okay Philip. 579 00:34:41,296 --> 00:34:42,209 Great, great. 580 00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:43,428 Great to see you, man. 581 00:34:43,429 --> 00:34:44,777 Good to see you. Great to see you, man. 582 00:34:44,778 --> 00:34:45,953 How about that? 583 00:34:47,476 --> 00:34:49,695 There’s a fella here in town that owns this one now. 584 00:34:49,696 --> 00:34:51,698 You never wanted to drive one around yourself? 585 00:34:52,002 --> 00:34:53,438 I do have some old British cars. 586 00:34:53,439 --> 00:34:56,354 I have an old Bentley that I drive, so I enjoy it. 587 00:34:56,355 --> 00:34:57,485 You drive a Bentley? 588 00:34:57,486 --> 00:35:00,488 Yeah, I have a 1952 Bentley Mark VI. 589 00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:02,316 You're doing pretty well. 590 00:35:02,317 --> 00:35:04,579 Well actually, it was my father's car originally 591 00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:06,930 and I inherited it. 592 00:35:08,323 --> 00:35:11,369 We lost him in October 2010. 593 00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:15,024 And he said that he was very content. 594 00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,593 He was happy with the life he had lived. 595 00:35:18,028 --> 00:35:20,856 When we come in here, we say he still lives because 596 00:35:20,857 --> 00:35:23,250 Of the things we’ve done together, 597 00:35:23,251 --> 00:35:24,643 the things we used to do, 598 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:27,821 and the things we have a lot of great memories of 599 00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:29,866 That’s right 600 00:35:33,566 --> 00:35:36,263 Do you remember taking off my steering wheel? 601 00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:38,439 Well you know, that was one of the safety features 602 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,443 as they used to say for keeping your car there. 603 00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:46,187 See you take your steering wheel off with you. 604 00:35:48,929 --> 00:35:51,060 You take it off with you and go anywhere you want to go. 605 00:35:51,061 --> 00:35:52,497 Take it on in the house. 606 00:35:52,498 --> 00:35:54,063 That's right. 607 00:35:54,064 --> 00:35:55,153 That way, nobody can steal your car. That's right. 608 00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:57,197 Philip does a lot of work now himself. 609 00:35:57,198 --> 00:35:58,503 Oh yeah, I saw him. Philip does a lot of work now himself. 610 00:35:58,504 --> 00:36:00,069 You only have one son, right? 611 00:36:00,070 --> 00:36:01,114 Right You only have one son, right? 612 00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:02,986 One son and one daughter. 613 00:36:03,509 --> 00:36:05,423 That's such a shame about your daughter. 614 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:06,946 Yeah, it was something... 615 00:36:06,947 --> 00:36:08,992 Sorry to hear about that. 616 00:36:10,429 --> 00:36:13,214 But that's just one of those things that happen though. 617 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:17,957 Yeah, I think about that girl, I miss her too. 618 00:36:17,958 --> 00:36:19,088 I really do. 619 00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:20,742 How did she die, Philip? 620 00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:21,700 She had cancer. 621 00:36:21,701 --> 00:36:23,616 Cancer? 622 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:26,792 That’s bad, bad. 623 00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:28,359 Your mother had cancer, too? 624 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,621 Yeah, she had cancer also. Your mother had cancer, too? 625 00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:30,579 Yeah. 626 00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:35,627 My mother always encouraged 627 00:36:35,628 --> 00:36:38,457 my hopes of becoming some kind of an artist. 628 00:36:40,589 --> 00:36:42,721 But she died when she was young, 629 00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:45,725 long before I became a filmmaker. 630 00:36:49,903 --> 00:36:53,254 I went to visit my family's burial plot in Charlotte, 631 00:36:54,168 --> 00:36:58,781 but discovered that my mother's headstone had mysteriously disappeared. 632 00:37:04,918 --> 00:37:07,660 Oh, there it is. 633 00:37:09,052 --> 00:37:12,752 And obviously, this one has been quite a while. 634 00:37:30,596 --> 00:37:32,205 You’re spinning very slowly, 635 00:37:32,206 --> 00:37:34,034 but you're not gaining any ground. 636 00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:38,080 This hippie lifestyle just has... 637 00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:39,691 Not a hippie lifestyle! This hippie lifestyle just has... 638 00:37:39,692 --> 00:37:41,258 It is a hippie lifestyle. 639 00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:43,521 In New York and Boston, you can get on the subway 640 00:37:43,522 --> 00:37:45,349 and ride to the beach, you know. 641 00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:48,352 And here you have to drive through five miles of miserable, 642 00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:51,920 swampy, muddy road to be attacked by mosquitoes 643 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:53,400 and you get stuck in the mud for all your trouble 644 00:37:53,401 --> 00:37:55,184 and then you have to walk back. 645 00:37:55,185 --> 00:37:56,490 And you never get to the beach. and then you have to walk back. 646 00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:59,014 While down South, I visited another friend 647 00:37:59,015 --> 00:38:01,278 who had appeared in “Sherman's March,” 648 00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,149 Wini Wood. 649 00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,152 When we were making “Sherman's March,” 650 00:38:06,153 --> 00:38:09,068 a lot of random moments 651 00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:12,898 got filmed, you know, from your life here. 652 00:38:12,899 --> 00:38:17,119 And those exist now in a film. 653 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,428 What do they seem like to you now, 30 years later? 654 00:38:21,429 --> 00:38:22,951 Well, 655 00:38:22,952 --> 00:38:26,912 now, it's odd that the film 656 00:38:26,913 --> 00:38:29,218 is a kind of memory archive for me. 657 00:38:29,219 --> 00:38:30,916 Yeah. is a kind of memory archive for me. 658 00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:33,353 It's you know, I remember what it felt like being at Genesis 659 00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:35,660 and I remember, 660 00:38:35,661 --> 00:38:38,227 a lot of things I did. 661 00:38:38,228 --> 00:38:41,361 But for me now, looking at the film, 662 00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:45,278 it’s how those memories become, 663 00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:48,281 I mean, they're really activated. 664 00:38:48,282 --> 00:38:49,848 When I watch me milking a cow, 665 00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:54,461 I can feel the sensation of the cow’s utter 666 00:38:54,462 --> 00:38:58,117 I can feel what it’s like to touch and smell a cow. 667 00:38:58,118 --> 00:39:01,121 So it really activates memories. 668 00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:05,254 It functions as memory. 669 00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:07,996 And I can see this as you're making your other films, 670 00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:11,131 as you're getting older and trying to retrieve those memories. 671 00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:15,439 Because we become more acutely interested in memory 672 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,658 as we get older, I guess. 673 00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:22,838 You know, memory is also partly about connecting the past to the present. 674 00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:24,883 What is this? 675 00:39:24,884 --> 00:39:27,452 This some war trash, honey. 676 00:39:29,454 --> 00:39:32,369 I'm trying to remember what you said that irked me so 677 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:38,114 because it is so absolutely, totally the wrong thing to say to a woman. 678 00:39:41,117 --> 00:39:43,684 I don't remember making movies together. 679 00:39:43,685 --> 00:39:46,339 Really? 680 00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:48,994 I really don't. 681 00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:52,345 What movies would we have? 682 00:39:52,346 --> 00:39:55,349 Well, I made a movie called “Sherman's March.” 683 00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:59,918 You were in it, and you were great 684 00:39:59,919 --> 00:40:01,398 in your role in that film. 685 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:03,443 People loved it. 686 00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:04,792 I don't remember the-- 687 00:40:04,793 --> 00:40:05,967 I don't remember it. 688 00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:07,534 Really? I don't remember it. 689 00:40:07,535 --> 00:40:11,756 You don't remember when you went with me to 690 00:40:11,757 --> 00:40:14,586 a military bunker near your house? 691 00:40:15,108 --> 00:40:18,371 I mean, what you say to a woman is not self-effacing. 692 00:40:18,372 --> 00:40:21,026 I mean, that's not it, that's not even interesting let alone-- 693 00:40:21,027 --> 00:40:22,331 I never met her before. 694 00:40:22,332 --> 00:40:23,507 I don't care, Ross! I never met her before. 695 00:40:23,508 --> 00:40:24,812 I'm trying to tell you. 696 00:40:24,813 --> 00:40:25,726 Postpone a vacation I'm trying to tell you. 697 00:40:25,727 --> 00:40:26,684 because I was coming into town. 698 00:40:26,685 --> 00:40:28,294 That's absurd. 699 00:40:28,295 --> 00:40:30,383 Ross, that's what's wrong with you. 700 00:40:30,384 --> 00:40:32,820 What she wants to hear what all women want to hear, 701 00:40:32,821 --> 00:40:34,256 what children want to hear, 702 00:40:34,257 --> 00:40:36,650 you've got to be more passionate, Ross. 703 00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:40,263 Now, if you had said to Dede, please postpone... 704 00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:43,309 You talk about a passion being necessary 705 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:45,659 to have a meaningful life. 706 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:46,660 I don't care, Ross! 707 00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:48,532 I'm telling you... 708 00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,447 It's a scene that resonates, 709 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:53,537 and I think people have really appreciated it over the years. 710 00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:54,625 You don't remember that? 711 00:40:54,626 --> 00:40:57,455 Not anything about that. 712 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:03,024 What I remember about you and I together is not that. 713 00:41:03,025 --> 00:41:04,462 It’s um... 714 00:41:07,769 --> 00:41:10,772 I feel like I can make you laugh. 715 00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:15,602 This place is like a tomb. 716 00:41:15,603 --> 00:41:18,562 No it's not, it’s like pubic hair, part the bushes! 717 00:41:18,563 --> 00:41:20,389 Go into the place! 718 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:23,305 Go with it, Ross. It's not like a tomb. That's the trouble with you. 719 00:41:23,306 --> 00:41:27,571 You don't know the difference between sex and death! 720 00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:28,528 Sex and death? 721 00:41:28,529 --> 00:41:29,486 Sex and death! Sex and death? 722 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,009 This is life! 723 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:32,967 You can't even tell it when it sits on your face. 724 00:41:32,968 --> 00:41:34,578 You can't tell which it is. 725 00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:39,365 And you also make viewers, audiences laugh. 726 00:41:39,366 --> 00:41:42,369 And you used to make us laugh in the classroom. 727 00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:46,982 Classroom? What classroom? 728 00:41:47,766 --> 00:41:49,114 Fred, stand here with me. 729 00:41:49,115 --> 00:41:50,942 I want you to be my lover for a minute. 730 00:41:50,943 --> 00:41:52,945 I want y’all to imagine that... 731 00:41:53,249 --> 00:41:56,557 You were a teacher, you taught poetry. 732 00:41:57,036 --> 00:41:59,080 To high school students. 733 00:41:59,081 --> 00:42:00,081 To what? 734 00:42:00,082 --> 00:42:01,605 You taught poetry. 735 00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:03,650 You want to say what you feel 736 00:42:03,651 --> 00:42:05,565 so the people know it and give it back to you. 737 00:42:05,566 --> 00:42:08,655 Okay, I got to say what I feel to this man, I’m in love with him 738 00:42:08,656 --> 00:42:10,788 because I got to make him love me back. 739 00:42:10,789 --> 00:42:12,747 Now I can talk to him one of two ways. 740 00:42:13,052 --> 00:42:14,443 Fred, 741 00:42:14,444 --> 00:42:15,662 look at me. 742 00:42:15,663 --> 00:42:18,448 I love you, Fred. 743 00:42:21,495 --> 00:42:24,498 Do you remember the Poetry in the Schools program? 744 00:42:25,630 --> 00:42:29,198 That's how I first met you. 745 00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:33,376 I don't know, but things just disappear. 746 00:42:34,247 --> 00:42:36,510 They just disappear. 747 00:42:42,995 --> 00:42:44,605 Charleen. 748 00:42:48,740 --> 00:42:53,308 One day, Adrian told his parents, Ross and Marilyn 749 00:42:53,309 --> 00:42:56,530 that he wanted a baby sister to play with him at the beach. 750 00:42:57,966 --> 00:42:59,314 It was me? 751 00:42:59,315 --> 00:43:00,881 Yes. 752 00:43:00,882 --> 00:43:04,015 Then one day, they heard that in a country far away, 753 00:43:04,016 --> 00:43:05,408 called Paraguay... 754 00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:12,676 When my wife and I decided to separate, 755 00:43:12,677 --> 00:43:15,680 I moved into a sublet not too far away from the house. 756 00:43:18,117 --> 00:43:19,770 A trial separation 757 00:43:19,771 --> 00:43:22,774 is what the court called it. 758 00:43:25,167 --> 00:43:28,517 My son was in Vermont, attending college. 759 00:43:28,518 --> 00:43:31,695 His sister stayed at home with her mom. 760 00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:34,481 And suddenly I was living alone. 761 00:43:37,527 --> 00:43:39,703 My wife and I worried about the effect 762 00:43:39,704 --> 00:43:42,315 the separation would have on our children, 763 00:43:43,098 --> 00:43:44,621 but we didn't worry enough about it 764 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:47,886 to prevent the separation from happening. 765 00:43:50,410 --> 00:43:53,368 And then suddenly, my son was back in Boston, 766 00:43:53,369 --> 00:43:55,154 living with me. 767 00:43:56,503 --> 00:44:00,768 In Vermont, he'd ended up in a hospital emergency room. 768 00:44:01,421 --> 00:44:05,381 He'd gone to a party and overdosed on vodka and the drug ecstasy. 769 00:44:07,906 --> 00:44:10,909 His mother and I had rushed to Burlington. 770 00:44:12,432 --> 00:44:15,435 We'd been through this before. 771 00:44:16,697 --> 00:44:21,266 Adrian had had flare-ups with alcohol and drugs, 772 00:44:21,267 --> 00:44:27,142 binge drinking, being expelled from high school for marijuana possession. 773 00:44:28,578 --> 00:44:31,276 We’d sent him to a wilderness program in Utah 774 00:44:31,277 --> 00:44:33,540 for kids with substance abuse issues. 775 00:44:33,932 --> 00:44:38,284 And we found therapists and psychiatrists to try to help him. 776 00:44:39,285 --> 00:44:41,939 But whenever we thought things were maybe getting a little better, 777 00:44:41,940 --> 00:44:44,943 a new crisis would happen. 778 00:45:01,481 --> 00:45:06,573 Adrian, I’m totally supportive of you writing, editing, and filming-- 779 00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:11,098 I believe between the internet, filming, writing 780 00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:13,318 and creating a clothing brand, 781 00:45:13,319 --> 00:45:16,582 I would be very well off, I'd be happy with my life. 782 00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:19,411 Right, but you're undermining yourself by all of this other behavior. 783 00:45:19,412 --> 00:45:23,242 Like what happened last night, you know, why do you do those kinds of things? 784 00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:25,199 Why? 785 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,333 Because I just... Why? 786 00:45:28,638 --> 00:45:29,943 I don’t know 787 00:45:29,944 --> 00:45:31,902 You're going to hurt yourself drinking and-- 788 00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:33,077 I didn’t drink anything last night. 789 00:45:33,078 --> 00:45:35,166 Well not last night, but... 790 00:45:35,167 --> 00:45:37,211 You did something with some drugs last night 791 00:45:37,212 --> 00:45:39,823 and you know, you could really hurt yourself. 792 00:45:39,824 --> 00:45:41,433 Well, 793 00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:43,478 it’s always a risk 794 00:45:43,479 --> 00:45:46,133 so is skiing, so it driving... 795 00:45:46,134 --> 00:45:47,874 It's not like I'm shooting up heroin. 796 00:45:47,875 --> 00:45:52,575 No, I'm thankful for that at least. 797 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,013 Go work on your resumes and get them in. 798 00:45:56,014 --> 00:45:57,710 I'll go get some ice coffee. 799 00:45:57,711 --> 00:46:00,582 Can you give me a Venti or whatever it is? The largest one. 800 00:46:00,583 --> 00:46:01,670 Yeah. 801 00:46:01,671 --> 00:46:03,542 Can you get double espresso shots? 802 00:46:03,543 --> 00:46:04,631 Yeah. 803 00:46:05,545 --> 00:46:07,328 Just want some caffeine, okay? 804 00:46:07,329 --> 00:46:08,983 Okay. 805 00:46:12,465 --> 00:46:15,685 Go cut your toenails at some point. 806 00:46:23,476 --> 00:46:28,437 I was worried about my son's risky behavior with drugs and alcohol. 807 00:46:30,744 --> 00:46:33,660 But suddenly, there were issues of my own to deal with. 808 00:46:38,491 --> 00:46:41,406 After your MRI, the radiologist called me and said. 809 00:46:41,407 --> 00:46:44,539 I'm calling you about, Mr. McElwee, your patient. 810 00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:49,284 He goes, “Wow, is he having any symptoms?” 811 00:46:49,981 --> 00:46:52,678 He's not having headaches, he's had no neurologic symptoms. 812 00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,420 I said, no, I was just looking for 813 00:46:55,421 --> 00:46:56,377 pressure. 814 00:46:56,378 --> 00:46:59,206 See, this is what I'm looking at 815 00:46:59,207 --> 00:47:02,557 is putting pressure on his brain 816 00:47:02,558 --> 00:47:05,692 has kind of collapsed part of the ventricle. 817 00:47:06,432 --> 00:47:09,260 But you can see it here. You can see how huge it is. 818 00:47:09,261 --> 00:47:12,176 It's a very important part of the brain that there could be 819 00:47:12,177 --> 00:47:15,005 neurologic consequences as well. 820 00:47:15,006 --> 00:47:16,136 I mean, it's your brain. 821 00:47:16,137 --> 00:47:17,398 Chances are I'm going to survive it. 822 00:47:17,399 --> 00:47:18,660 That seems. 823 00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:23,101 Almost certainly, you're not going to die. 824 00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:27,670 We basically go down the midline. 825 00:47:29,890 --> 00:47:32,762 To the tumor in that little opening that I mentioned to you, 826 00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:37,157 and then literally take the pulp out of the tumor and then 827 00:47:37,158 --> 00:47:41,118 bring in the “rind” of the tumor, if you will, 828 00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,773 so that we get all the tumor out. 829 00:47:44,296 --> 00:47:49,561 But then we put that dura, the covering back, stitch it back. 830 00:47:49,562 --> 00:47:52,912 And then we put the bone back in with little metal plates and screws, 831 00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:57,351 and then we put the skin and scalp back on, and stitch that back up, 832 00:47:57,352 --> 00:47:59,137 let you heal. 833 00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:04,619 So tell me, Ross, in your darkest hours 834 00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:07,623 what do you worry about? 835 00:48:10,278 --> 00:48:12,018 Well, 836 00:48:12,019 --> 00:48:15,369 I do worry about something freakish happening. 837 00:48:15,370 --> 00:48:18,373 And me dying. 838 00:48:18,983 --> 00:48:21,767 And Adrian 839 00:48:21,768 --> 00:48:25,250 having not straightened himself out. 840 00:48:25,511 --> 00:48:26,380 Right. 841 00:48:26,381 --> 00:48:28,687 I worry a lot about that. 842 00:48:28,688 --> 00:48:30,863 Adrian remains a question mark. 843 00:48:30,864 --> 00:48:32,430 I think he'll be fine, ultimately. 844 00:48:32,431 --> 00:48:35,476 But I don't want to leave him now, I really don't. 845 00:48:35,477 --> 00:48:38,480 Right. 846 00:48:55,671 --> 00:48:58,021 I mean, a lot of people would look at this, 847 00:48:58,022 --> 00:48:59,413 this nice 848 00:48:59,414 --> 00:49:02,199 construction that this neighbor of mine is making 849 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,505 and just think of it as a flower box. 850 00:49:04,506 --> 00:49:06,725 I mean, after all, Spring is coming and 851 00:49:06,726 --> 00:49:09,729 the flowers will still be in bloom, and, 852 00:49:10,382 --> 00:49:14,689 but I look at it with my surgery two days away and I think, 853 00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:17,040 it's a coffin. 854 00:49:17,041 --> 00:49:21,914 It's a box. A coffin for a human being. 855 00:49:21,915 --> 00:49:24,177 But for God's sake, this is all morbid. 856 00:49:24,178 --> 00:49:30,053 There's a 95% chance of success with this operation. 857 00:49:30,054 --> 00:49:33,622 So why do I dwell on the 5%? Why? 858 00:49:36,408 --> 00:49:39,758 I think it's because there's a 5% chance 859 00:49:39,759 --> 00:49:42,500 I won't see my daughter again. 860 00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:48,071 Mariah continues to be such a joy, such a sweetheart, and 861 00:49:48,072 --> 00:49:50,899 I would really miss her. 862 00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:54,947 And the 5% chance that I won't see my son. 863 00:49:54,948 --> 00:49:57,341 It's been difficult the last two years with Adrian. 864 00:49:57,342 --> 00:49:59,386 He's twenty-one, he's got all kinds of problems. 865 00:49:59,387 --> 00:50:02,955 But the kid also has tremendous skills 866 00:50:02,956 --> 00:50:07,220 and abilities and eventually he'll figure himself out. 867 00:50:07,221 --> 00:50:11,224 So all of that is figuring into this very complex equation now 868 00:50:11,225 --> 00:50:14,141 as I think about the next forty-eight hours. 869 00:51:29,956 --> 00:51:31,609 A week after my surgery, 870 00:51:31,610 --> 00:51:35,788 Adrian smuggled a small video camera into my hospital room. 871 00:51:38,182 --> 00:51:42,055 He said he thought it would help me recover faster. 872 00:51:43,491 --> 00:51:47,016 I remember being thrilled to be filming again. 873 00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,283 I mean, you'll never know what you'll get. 874 00:51:53,284 --> 00:51:56,287 The deep surprise of the food tray... 875 00:52:06,297 --> 00:52:09,342 It meant a lot to me that he would bring me the camera, 876 00:52:09,343 --> 00:52:12,084 and also that he took charge of sending out bulletins 877 00:52:12,085 --> 00:52:13,955 to family and friends 878 00:52:13,956 --> 00:52:16,785 to let them know of my recovery progress. 879 00:52:22,530 --> 00:52:26,533 I was finally allowed to come home from the hospital. 880 00:52:26,534 --> 00:52:29,668 My wife and I put the divorce on hold. 881 00:52:32,845 --> 00:52:36,543 During my rehab, I’d learned that Adrian’s psychiatrist 882 00:52:36,544 --> 00:52:39,286 had diagnosed him with bipolar disorder 883 00:52:40,592 --> 00:52:42,898 and had prescribed lithium to treat it. 884 00:52:44,944 --> 00:52:48,426 Adrian reluctantly agreed to go along with the treatment. 885 00:52:51,255 --> 00:52:53,560 A month after my return from the hospital, 886 00:52:53,561 --> 00:52:57,174 my wife and I decided to proceed with the divorce. 887 00:52:59,350 --> 00:53:02,656 After twenty-four years of marriage, suffice it to say, 888 00:53:02,657 --> 00:53:05,182 the breakup was very painful. 889 00:53:08,968 --> 00:53:14,102 And once again, we were both worried about the effect on our kids, 890 00:53:14,103 --> 00:53:17,106 but not worried enough to avoid divorce. 891 00:53:19,892 --> 00:53:22,895 We sold the house and began packing. 892 00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:09,114 Adrian, what are you? 893 00:54:09,115 --> 00:54:11,509 A squid. 894 00:54:15,991 --> 00:54:18,863 Until the movers took away the TV console, 895 00:54:18,864 --> 00:54:23,216 I'd forgotten that years ago, we placed a mousetrap behind it. 896 00:54:33,879 --> 00:54:36,750 A few months later, I had to go to Prague to screen 897 00:54:36,751 --> 00:54:38,884 a retrospective of my films. 898 00:54:42,104 --> 00:54:44,410 A prospect I wasn't looking forward to 899 00:54:44,411 --> 00:54:46,892 given everything that was happening back home. 900 00:54:55,596 --> 00:54:58,599 The projectionist was preoccupied. 901 00:55:12,918 --> 00:55:15,920 I slipped into the projection booth. 902 00:55:15,921 --> 00:55:20,186 A scene from my wedding ceremony happened to be playing. 903 00:55:22,231 --> 00:55:24,929 For richer, for poorer. In sickness and in health. 904 00:55:24,930 --> 00:55:26,322 For richer, for poorer. 905 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:27,497 In sickness and in health. 906 00:55:27,498 --> 00:55:29,542 To love and to cherish forever. 907 00:55:29,543 --> 00:55:31,763 To love and to cherish forever. To love and to cherish forever. 908 00:55:34,722 --> 00:55:37,811 I remember feeling like stopping the projection, 909 00:55:37,812 --> 00:55:40,424 going into the theater and making an announcement. 910 00:55:41,468 --> 00:55:44,428 We did not stay together until death do us part. 911 00:55:45,167 --> 00:55:46,778 We're headed for divorce. 912 00:55:48,649 --> 00:55:52,914 This film might have been shot as a documentary, but now it's fiction. 913 00:55:54,307 --> 00:55:57,309 You think you might want to get married someday? 914 00:55:57,310 --> 00:55:59,138 With you, Dada and Mama 915 00:56:01,314 --> 00:56:04,273 Only Mama and Dada. 916 00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:12,455 This was very easy to make. 917 00:56:12,456 --> 00:56:14,065 How long did it take you to make it? 918 00:56:14,066 --> 00:56:16,415 Few days. 919 00:56:16,416 --> 00:56:19,376 And how did you know what God looked like? 920 00:56:21,813 --> 00:56:24,380 Well, I don't really know. 921 00:56:24,381 --> 00:56:27,645 But this reminds me of God. 922 00:56:28,428 --> 00:56:31,562 It reminds me of God. 923 00:56:37,132 --> 00:56:40,135 I think God looks like this. 924 00:56:41,702 --> 00:56:44,574 Do you think that God’s seen this painting? 925 00:56:44,575 --> 00:56:45,924 Sure. 926 00:56:46,315 --> 00:56:48,882 Well, not inside... 927 00:56:48,883 --> 00:56:53,671 I’ll show her or he out the window. 928 00:56:57,022 --> 00:57:00,025 Open the window, please. 929 00:57:02,506 --> 00:57:03,376 Right there. 930 00:57:05,247 --> 00:57:09,034 This is a mysterious picture of God. 931 00:57:10,252 --> 00:57:12,167 Now do you want to go camping? 932 00:57:12,646 --> 00:57:15,475 So I put the camera down and went camping. 933 00:57:16,911 --> 00:57:21,699 But I remember thinking that God sort of looked like a movie camera here. 934 00:57:23,570 --> 00:57:28,009 Some of the footage I shot with you as a young child, it's just so beautiful. 935 00:57:28,967 --> 00:57:31,578 And it’s because I shot it with film and not with HD. 936 00:57:32,013 --> 00:57:33,188 I agree and I think that 937 00:57:34,102 --> 00:57:36,888 Going back to being younger and being filmed 938 00:57:39,194 --> 00:57:41,458 The biggest regret I have is you not putting me in... 939 00:57:41,980 --> 00:57:45,505 some kind of child ads 940 00:57:47,333 --> 00:57:49,813 I was a child star to some extent, but... 941 00:57:49,814 --> 00:57:52,903 I think we did you a favor by not trying to make you a child star. 942 00:57:52,904 --> 00:57:55,862 I think you could’ve made me a child star pretty easily 943 00:57:55,863 --> 00:57:57,690 I already was, I was like a D-list, 944 00:57:57,691 --> 00:57:59,823 Z-list 945 00:57:59,824 --> 00:58:01,433 How do you put up with him? 946 00:58:01,434 --> 00:58:02,609 I don't know 947 00:58:05,612 --> 00:58:07,831 I just wonder if you ever think about 948 00:58:07,832 --> 00:58:10,051 reversing the roles sometimes a bit more 949 00:58:10,878 --> 00:58:11,792 Well, here. 950 00:58:13,011 --> 00:58:13,880 Got it? 951 00:58:13,881 --> 00:58:14,707 Yeah. 952 00:58:14,708 --> 00:58:15,535 Okay. 953 00:58:15,796 --> 00:58:16,927 I got it. 954 00:58:16,928 --> 00:58:17,710 Got it? 955 00:58:17,711 --> 00:58:18,102 I can film. Got it? 956 00:58:18,103 --> 00:58:18,712 Okay. 957 00:58:20,235 --> 00:58:20,974 Oooh 958 00:58:20,975 --> 00:58:22,237 Don’t drop it. 959 00:58:22,586 --> 00:58:23,281 Where do I need to-- 960 00:58:23,282 --> 00:58:24,151 Do you see me? 961 00:58:24,152 --> 00:58:24,804 Yeah! 962 00:58:24,805 --> 00:58:25,676 Okay. 963 00:58:26,807 --> 00:58:28,504 These haven’t been sorted out yet. 964 00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:29,766 I can’t see them very well. 965 00:58:29,767 --> 00:58:31,245 They’re kind of tiny. 966 00:58:31,246 --> 00:58:32,465 In this camera. 967 00:58:33,988 --> 00:58:35,467 How can I adjust if the camera’s not working very well? 968 00:58:35,468 --> 00:58:37,251 Well, I think you can see them if you look. 969 00:58:37,252 --> 00:58:38,905 Just move the camera until you see my hands 970 00:58:38,906 --> 00:58:40,560 holding the shells... 971 00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:42,693 It’s right in the middle of them, yeah! 972 00:58:45,130 --> 00:58:45,912 You know what? 973 00:58:45,913 --> 00:58:46,826 What? You know what? 974 00:58:46,827 --> 00:58:48,088 I think you’re interesting. 975 00:58:48,089 --> 00:58:48,699 Why? I think you’re interesting. 976 00:58:51,310 --> 00:58:53,311 I’m kind of boring I think. 977 00:58:53,312 --> 00:58:54,531 You’re like the man behind the camera. I’m kind of boring I think. 978 00:58:54,879 --> 00:58:56,488 No one gets to see you enough-- 979 00:58:56,489 --> 00:58:59,143 Well they do, I get in front of the camera now and then. 980 00:58:59,144 --> 00:59:01,841 For let's say, about one percent of your films. 981 00:59:01,842 --> 00:59:03,364 Well, there's a reason for that. 982 00:59:03,365 --> 00:59:04,714 People don't want to see a film about me. 983 00:59:04,715 --> 00:59:07,412 They want to see a film about what I see. 984 00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:10,633 But perhaps... 985 00:59:10,634 --> 00:59:12,200 You could change it. 986 00:59:12,723 --> 00:59:14,637 Perhaps I'll change in the future? 987 00:59:14,638 --> 00:59:16,639 Maybe. 988 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,032 It’s kind of blurry you know that? 989 00:59:19,033 --> 00:59:20,338 Is it? 990 00:59:20,339 --> 00:59:21,818 Probably the eyepiece needs to be adjusted. 991 00:59:21,819 --> 00:59:22,862 What? 992 00:59:22,863 --> 00:59:23,863 Why don't we turn it off for now? 993 00:59:23,864 --> 00:59:25,344 Sure. 994 00:59:25,649 --> 00:59:28,651 All you have to do is press this little button. 995 00:59:28,652 --> 00:59:29,608 Sure that’s the right one? 996 00:59:29,609 --> 00:59:31,828 Yup, it’s on video right now. 997 00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:33,482 Okay. 998 00:59:38,313 --> 00:59:40,576 You want a three-egg omelet or two? 999 00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:42,100 Three, please. 1000 00:59:43,275 --> 00:59:45,363 So, Adrian. 1001 00:59:45,364 --> 00:59:46,625 Yes? 1002 00:59:46,626 --> 00:59:48,018 Tell me what you think of your dad. 1003 00:59:48,019 --> 00:59:50,282 I'm taking pretty good care of you. 1004 00:59:50,761 --> 00:59:53,240 You always do but... 1005 00:59:53,241 --> 00:59:55,765 this place is not satisfactory. 1006 00:59:55,766 --> 00:59:57,680 This is temporary, Adrian. 1007 00:59:57,681 --> 01:00:00,422 You complain too much about temporary housing. 1008 01:00:01,772 --> 01:00:04,775 I'm very affected by the surroundings. 1009 01:00:07,342 --> 01:00:09,561 You've been angry at me a lot 1010 01:00:09,562 --> 01:00:10,650 about this and that. 1011 01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:28,711 But seriously Adrian, 1012 01:00:28,712 --> 01:00:30,364 some of the things 1013 01:00:30,365 --> 01:00:32,977 that have gone down over the last couple of years, 1014 01:00:34,152 --> 01:00:36,544 have been really... 1015 01:00:36,545 --> 01:00:39,548 painful and complicated and 1016 01:00:40,158 --> 01:00:42,289 we've made a few mistakes along the way but-- 1017 01:00:42,290 --> 01:00:43,682 Just a few? 1018 01:00:43,683 --> 01:00:44,422 Huh? 1019 01:00:44,423 --> 01:00:45,466 Just a few? Huh? 1020 01:00:45,467 --> 01:00:47,512 Well, a few... 1021 01:00:47,513 --> 01:00:48,818 Maybe more than a few but, 1022 01:00:48,819 --> 01:00:51,299 you've certainly made a lot of mistakes too. 1023 01:00:51,735 --> 01:00:56,043 And sometimes I don't think you've been willing to admit that. 1024 01:00:58,611 --> 01:01:00,786 We’ve already had that discussion. 1025 01:01:00,787 --> 01:01:06,226 I’ve been through things that are not really comprehendible to most people. 1026 01:01:06,227 --> 01:01:08,055 Like what? 1027 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,625 Things I don’t want to talk about. 1028 01:01:13,974 --> 01:01:18,935 I think it may have really triggered some of the worst, 1029 01:01:18,936 --> 01:01:22,461 some of the bad tendencies in myself... 1030 01:01:23,114 --> 01:01:26,639 vices and anxiety. 1031 01:01:29,555 --> 01:01:32,165 Well, it was only meant to help you. 1032 01:01:32,166 --> 01:01:34,733 Maybe we made some mistakes. 1033 01:01:34,734 --> 01:01:37,128 I think that's putting it lightly. 1034 01:01:43,264 --> 01:01:44,961 Adrian, that’s going to fall. 1035 01:01:44,962 --> 01:01:47,704 It's not Dad, I live life on the edge. 1036 01:01:52,491 --> 01:01:53,534 See... 1037 01:01:53,535 --> 01:01:55,015 Oh! 1038 01:02:01,456 --> 01:02:04,459 It could be worse. 1039 01:02:06,635 --> 01:02:07,940 Hi. 1040 01:02:07,941 --> 01:02:10,682 It’s me and Mark on the phone together. 1041 01:02:10,683 --> 01:02:12,728 Hey Ross. 1042 01:02:12,729 --> 01:02:15,427 You know, here's the thing, I think television is so good right now... 1043 01:02:15,862 --> 01:02:18,211 The team in Los Angeles called again. 1044 01:02:18,212 --> 01:02:22,085 The “Sherman's March” television series was now being reconceived 1045 01:02:22,086 --> 01:02:24,741 as a half-hour sitcom. 1046 01:02:26,568 --> 01:02:29,179 Almost three years into development, 1047 01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:32,618 I was having even greater doubts about the project. 1048 01:02:32,836 --> 01:02:35,968 What’s more, there wasn't really anything for me to film 1049 01:02:35,969 --> 01:02:38,405 for my making-of documentary. 1050 01:02:38,406 --> 01:02:42,106 Just a series of meetings that they'd rather I did not try to film. 1051 01:02:44,848 --> 01:02:48,852 I found myself shooting random moments out my window. 1052 01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:55,422 But then I was notified that a proposal I had submitted for a different film, 1053 01:02:55,423 --> 01:02:58,644 one that had to be shot in France had been approved. 1054 01:03:01,168 --> 01:03:05,303 The film would be called “Photographic Memory” 1055 01:03:07,871 --> 01:03:10,524 How old is this map? 1056 01:03:10,525 --> 01:03:13,658 Well, it's got to be... 1057 01:03:13,659 --> 01:03:16,183 Thirty, thirty-five years, at least. 1058 01:03:18,359 --> 01:03:21,580 Can you imagine going on a trip like this someday, Adrian? 1059 01:03:23,277 --> 01:03:26,019 Wandering and not really knowing where you’re going? 1060 01:03:26,890 --> 01:03:28,281 Feel like I’ve already done that. 1061 01:03:28,282 --> 01:03:28,978 You have? 1062 01:03:28,979 --> 01:03:30,067 Where did you do it? 1063 01:03:33,418 --> 01:03:36,421 Places that I don’t really want to talk about. 1064 01:03:37,161 --> 01:03:38,771 Okay... 1065 01:03:40,773 --> 01:03:45,690 For the film, I’d be retracing my steps when I was my son’s age. 1066 01:03:45,691 --> 01:03:50,783 back when I was unsure of what I wanted to do with my life. 1067 01:03:52,872 --> 01:03:54,699 While back in the US, 1068 01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:58,530 my son is trying to figure out what he wants to do with his life. 1069 01:04:05,798 --> 01:04:07,494 Hello Adrian. 1070 01:04:07,495 --> 01:04:08,365 Hi Dad. 1071 01:04:08,366 --> 01:04:09,976 Can you see me? 1072 01:04:10,455 --> 01:04:12,805 Yeah, I see... 1073 01:04:13,371 --> 01:04:15,241 Is that a camera? 1074 01:04:15,242 --> 01:04:19,159 There is a camera in the back of me and the ocean in front of me. 1075 01:04:19,681 --> 01:04:23,207 What do you do with your days, Adrian? 1076 01:04:30,518 --> 01:04:32,650 Sometime after this conversation, 1077 01:04:32,651 --> 01:04:36,784 Adrian decided to taper off of his lithium prescription. 1078 01:04:36,785 --> 01:04:39,396 He said it had caused him to gain a lot of weight 1079 01:04:39,397 --> 01:04:42,094 and made him feel sluggish. 1080 01:04:42,095 --> 01:04:47,231 He felt lithium deprived him of his creativity, his spark. 1081 01:04:53,672 --> 01:04:57,719 “Photographic Memory” premiered at The Venice Film Festival. 1082 01:05:02,768 --> 01:05:06,598 And since Adrian has appeared in the film, he came along. 1083 01:05:08,252 --> 01:05:13,212 He showed me at least a first draft of the film. 1084 01:05:13,213 --> 01:05:14,997 It was definitely a surprise at first. 1085 01:05:14,998 --> 01:05:19,479 And if it was not my father, I probably would 1086 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,569 I'm not saying press charges, but I would definitely... 1087 01:05:22,570 --> 01:05:24,006 Oh, come on. 1088 01:05:24,007 --> 01:05:25,268 I'm making a joke. 1089 01:05:25,269 --> 01:05:27,749 But no, it would be a little bit different 1090 01:05:28,707 --> 01:05:30,751 if it had not had that level of intimacy. 1091 01:05:30,752 --> 01:05:33,189 But I think it's worth saying that if you had really 1092 01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:35,582 objected to any of the footage, I would have taken it out first. 1093 01:05:35,583 --> 01:05:38,194 And he obviously has that integrity. 1094 01:05:38,195 --> 01:05:41,632 Had I said, I really don't feel comfortable with this, 1095 01:05:41,633 --> 01:05:43,851 of course, it would not be in the film. 1096 01:05:43,852 --> 01:05:45,766 A lot of people ask, 1097 01:05:45,767 --> 01:05:48,117 “Were you uncomfortable seeing a lot of these images on the screen?” 1098 01:05:48,118 --> 01:05:51,295 “And projected, put into the public light?” 1099 01:05:51,904 --> 01:05:53,035 The answer is yes. 1100 01:05:53,036 --> 01:05:56,212 A lot of it is definitely hard to see. 1101 01:05:56,213 --> 01:05:59,432 In terms of growing up, even in the past couple of years. 1102 01:05:59,433 --> 01:06:03,742 Also compared to as when I was a younger child, but... 1103 01:06:05,483 --> 01:06:07,049 It... 1104 01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:08,964 Even if it’s pretty brutal, 1105 01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,141 it does help, uh... 1106 01:06:12,055 --> 01:06:16,232 Once again, bring back the entire theme of the film and 1107 01:06:16,233 --> 01:06:17,581 help strengthen it. 1108 01:06:17,582 --> 01:06:19,278 Plus now you get to go to film festivals. 1109 01:06:19,279 --> 01:06:20,628 Right. Plus now you get to go to film festivals. 1110 01:06:21,281 --> 01:06:23,544 I’m also very tired. 1111 01:06:25,894 --> 01:06:28,767 I want to thank my guests. 1112 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,249 Thank you, thank you. 1113 01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:38,995 After Venice, we traveled to other film festivals together. 1114 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,843 As usual, Adrian brought his camera along. 1115 01:07:04,846 --> 01:07:09,547 But I also noticed he was making notes here and there. 1116 01:07:09,982 --> 01:07:12,985 I now wonder what he wrote on that scrap of paper. 1117 01:07:19,122 --> 01:07:23,126 This is something he shot after I went back to my room for the night. 1118 01:07:27,304 --> 01:07:30,523 It might have been for a music video he was making 1119 01:07:30,524 --> 01:07:33,049 but I'll never know for sure. 1120 01:07:37,009 --> 01:07:40,664 Adrian did have a penchant for music videos. 1121 01:07:40,665 --> 01:07:44,756 Especially those which featured his appearances at film festivals. 1122 01:08:22,315 --> 01:08:24,447 When I eventually came upon this video 1123 01:08:24,448 --> 01:08:27,406 Adrian made at the Venice Film Festival, 1124 01:08:27,407 --> 01:08:30,106 I didn't know exactly how to take it. 1125 01:08:33,631 --> 01:08:37,373 I mean, was a kind of tongue-in-cheek parody of himself 1126 01:08:37,374 --> 01:08:40,812 as a film festival big shot? 1127 01:08:42,466 --> 01:08:44,031 Or does it on some level, 1128 01:08:44,032 --> 01:08:47,297 actually represent the life that he wanted for himself? 1129 01:08:49,386 --> 01:08:52,344 Not that there's anything wrong with that per se, 1130 01:08:52,345 --> 01:08:55,740 but for Adrian, it may have been poison. 1131 01:08:58,221 --> 01:09:01,048 I now worry that maybe filming my son 1132 01:09:01,049 --> 01:09:04,878 and then letting him travel with me to film screenings 1133 01:09:04,879 --> 01:09:07,969 somehow contributed to his destabilization. 1134 01:09:09,101 --> 01:09:12,235 Maybe gave him a distorted sense of reality. 1135 01:09:13,497 --> 01:09:17,283 And I’m haunted by the comment a journalist made about the film. 1136 01:09:17,718 --> 01:09:21,068 saying he felt I was too tough on my son, 1137 01:09:21,069 --> 01:09:22,680 too judgmental. 1138 01:09:23,028 --> 01:09:25,465 Why do you do those kinds of things? 1139 01:09:26,249 --> 01:09:27,074 Why? 1140 01:09:27,075 --> 01:09:29,208 I just... 1141 01:09:30,949 --> 01:09:32,254 I don't know... 1142 01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:32,776 You're going to hurt yourself I don't know... 1143 01:09:32,777 --> 01:09:33,951 Drinking and-- 1144 01:09:33,952 --> 01:09:35,866 I didn’t drink anything last night. 1145 01:09:35,867 --> 01:09:36,346 Well, not last night but... I didn’t drink anything last night. 1146 01:09:37,738 --> 01:09:39,391 You did something with some drugs last night and 1147 01:09:39,392 --> 01:09:42,134 you know, you could really hurt yourself. 1148 01:09:43,266 --> 01:09:45,441 What the journalist did not know 1149 01:09:45,442 --> 01:09:47,661 because I didn’t explore it in the film 1150 01:09:48,009 --> 01:09:51,229 was the seven years of sporadic hell and suffering 1151 01:09:51,230 --> 01:09:54,450 my son had gone through due to alcohol and drugs 1152 01:09:54,451 --> 01:09:57,105 and his psychiatric issues. 1153 01:09:58,846 --> 01:10:02,762 “Photographic Memory” offers up a version of a kid who was troubled, but 1154 01:10:02,763 --> 01:10:05,766 who would eventually be okay. 1155 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,116 I now think it was this version, 1156 01:10:09,117 --> 01:10:11,684 a fundamentally false version, 1157 01:10:11,685 --> 01:10:16,821 that Adrian ended up embracing as the true version of himself. 1158 01:10:21,478 --> 01:10:25,089 Even after the period covered in “Photographic Memory,” 1159 01:10:25,090 --> 01:10:27,483 Adrian continued to have problems, 1160 01:10:27,484 --> 01:10:30,617 including minor run-ins with the Boston police. 1161 01:10:34,186 --> 01:10:35,186 I even let him go. 1162 01:10:35,187 --> 01:10:37,363 There’s a dent on my hood, okay? 1163 01:10:47,808 --> 01:10:50,854 And maybe the last straw for Adrian was that during 1164 01:10:50,855 --> 01:10:55,250 the manhunt for the culprits of the Boston Marathon terrorist bombing, 1165 01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:58,992 FBI agents questioned him briefly because someone had sent in 1166 01:10:58,993 --> 01:11:03,650 an anonymous tip saying that Adrian resembled one of the bombers. 1167 01:11:05,086 --> 01:11:08,655 The agents quickly realized that he wasn't the man they were looking for. 1168 01:11:12,355 --> 01:11:15,879 But Adrian decided it was time to get out of Boston. 1169 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,707 As he told his friends, 1170 01:11:17,708 --> 01:11:20,711 even the FBI has me on their radar here. 1171 01:11:22,930 --> 01:11:26,716 So he took a parcel of internet domain names he'd accumulated, 1172 01:11:26,717 --> 01:11:29,066 and he sold them. 1173 01:11:29,067 --> 01:11:32,070 He moved to Colorado to make a fresh start. 1174 01:11:43,429 --> 01:11:46,649 In watching what you'd film in Colorado, 1175 01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:50,044 it was your ski footage that moved me the most. 1176 01:11:57,835 --> 01:12:02,666 I was mesmerized by your shadow when it floated over the snow. 1177 01:12:06,583 --> 01:12:08,235 And when you sneezed, 1178 01:12:08,236 --> 01:12:11,544 it was the same sneeze you made when you were a little kid. 1179 01:12:28,779 --> 01:12:33,392 When I saw this footage, it was suddenly like being able to inhabit your body. 1180 01:12:38,963 --> 01:12:42,139 I was reminded of how you loved getting off the main trail 1181 01:12:42,140 --> 01:12:44,490 finding your own way down the slope. 1182 01:12:49,234 --> 01:12:52,715 When you were a little boy and while we were skiing together, 1183 01:12:52,716 --> 01:12:56,372 we'd sometimes stop just to listen to how quiet it was. 1184 01:12:59,418 --> 01:13:02,378 I wonder if that's what you were doing here. 1185 01:13:12,866 --> 01:13:14,998 Shh. 1186 01:13:14,999 --> 01:13:17,393 Just listen. 1187 01:13:25,879 --> 01:13:28,577 I used to call myself a filmmaker. 1188 01:13:28,578 --> 01:13:31,101 I used to call myself your father. 1189 01:13:31,102 --> 01:13:33,408 I used to call myself a filmmaker. 1190 01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:36,194 I used to call myself your father. 1191 01:13:46,857 --> 01:13:49,642 I used to call myself your father. 1192 01:14:18,758 --> 01:14:21,107 A few years go by, 1193 01:14:21,108 --> 01:14:25,461 then I meet Hyun Kim, a filmmaker from South Korea. 1194 01:14:26,723 --> 01:14:28,376 We fall in love. 1195 01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:32,293 She moves in with me. 1196 01:14:35,383 --> 01:14:39,649 Early in our relationship, she asked me not to film her face. 1197 01:14:40,388 --> 01:14:43,870 Did you commit some kind of crime I don't know about? 1198 01:14:44,915 --> 01:14:49,267 No, it's because I don't look natural on camera. 1199 01:14:51,617 --> 01:14:55,186 I just want to have my private life. 1200 01:14:59,799 --> 01:15:02,802 Just because I'm not a performer type, 1201 01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:06,806 I'm an observer. 1202 01:15:09,287 --> 01:15:12,115 You will be a mystery woman in this film. 1203 01:15:12,116 --> 01:15:14,988 I love being mysterious. 1204 01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:22,952 Even though she won’t let me film her face, 1205 01:15:22,953 --> 01:15:25,216 Hyun is wonderful. 1206 01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:32,528 At odd moments, I'm astounded that we somehow found each other. 1207 01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:41,058 My daughter, Mariah, is getting to know Hyun. 1208 01:15:42,102 --> 01:15:43,625 Or a smaller one. 1209 01:15:43,626 --> 01:15:46,279 Well, I think that’s a good size. 1210 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,544 We got pumpkins. 1211 01:15:56,856 --> 01:15:59,771 Hyun is making a film about the effects of the Korean War 1212 01:15:59,772 --> 01:16:02,688 on three generations of her family. 1213 01:16:05,735 --> 01:16:10,348 In watching it, I'm struck by how similar our filmmaking styles are. 1214 01:16:14,744 --> 01:16:17,442 It’s as if we speak the same language. 1215 01:16:24,318 --> 01:16:25,667 How do you feel? 1216 01:16:25,668 --> 01:16:27,017 Well, I’m very happy. 1217 01:16:28,671 --> 01:16:32,500 I just wish you would let me film you the way you film me. 1218 01:16:34,285 --> 01:16:36,416 No, you refuse? 1219 01:16:36,417 --> 01:16:38,723 Not even for-- 1220 01:16:38,724 --> 01:16:41,204 Not even for a wedding present? 1221 01:16:41,205 --> 01:16:43,249 Do you want to hold hands? 1222 01:16:43,250 --> 01:16:45,035 Oh, okay. 1223 01:16:45,688 --> 01:16:46,644 Are you ready? 1224 01:16:46,645 --> 01:16:47,558 Yes, we are. Are you ready? 1225 01:16:47,559 --> 01:16:48,604 Okay. 1226 01:16:50,127 --> 01:16:52,172 Would you turn and face her and then repeat after me? 1227 01:16:54,174 --> 01:16:55,827 I Ross. 1228 01:16:55,828 --> 01:16:56,698 I Ross I Ross. 1229 01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:57,742 Take you, Hyun. 1230 01:16:57,743 --> 01:16:59,091 Take you, Hyun. Take you, Hyun. 1231 01:16:59,092 --> 01:17:00,484 To be my wife. 1232 01:17:00,485 --> 01:17:01,659 To be my wife. To be my wife. 1233 01:17:01,660 --> 01:17:03,356 And I pledge to you. 1234 01:17:03,357 --> 01:17:04,620 And I pledge to you. And I pledge to you. 1235 01:17:05,185 --> 01:17:08,928 Justice Lopez's official title is The Solemnizer. 1236 01:17:09,494 --> 01:17:13,280 As if to make official the solemn exchange of wedding vows. 1237 01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:14,977 My friendship, 1238 01:17:14,978 --> 01:17:16,065 My support, 1239 01:17:16,066 --> 01:17:17,675 My support, My support, 1240 01:17:17,676 --> 01:17:21,418 It is probably a little strange to her and not so solemn 1241 01:17:21,419 --> 01:17:25,596 That both Hyun and I are recording this event with our respective cameras. 1242 01:17:25,597 --> 01:17:28,600 I now pronounce you husband and wife. 1243 01:17:29,470 --> 01:17:31,733 Congratulations. 1244 01:17:31,734 --> 01:17:33,517 Congratulations, you're welcome. 1245 01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:35,084 Enjoy. 1246 01:17:35,085 --> 01:17:38,174 We decided not to invite any friends or family members. 1247 01:17:38,175 --> 01:17:42,527 And so, we're married in the presence of only Justice Lopez. 1248 01:17:45,138 --> 01:17:49,186 And the ghosts of former city council members. 1249 01:17:57,498 --> 01:18:01,067 My daughter drops by to fix dinner for Hyun and me. 1250 01:18:02,460 --> 01:18:04,983 So what do you think is going to happen to you after leave 1251 01:18:04,984 --> 01:18:06,855 the program that you're in now? 1252 01:18:06,856 --> 01:18:09,859 I'm going to be working. 1253 01:18:10,424 --> 01:18:16,256 I'm going to find a job, work, and then maybe go to another college. 1254 01:18:17,127 --> 01:18:20,130 We're going to get another dog. 1255 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:28,965 Dad. 1256 01:18:29,226 --> 01:18:30,706 Mariah, come on, let’s go. 1257 01:18:33,752 --> 01:18:35,927 Hold the other side, pick the other side up. 1258 01:18:35,928 --> 01:18:38,104 Let’s go, we're on a journey. 1259 01:18:43,283 --> 01:18:45,067 Okay, we're almost good. 1260 01:18:45,068 --> 01:18:47,069 I think this is good... 1261 01:18:47,070 --> 01:18:50,508 Mariah is growing up and seems to be doing well. 1262 01:18:50,856 --> 01:18:53,858 My main concern continues to be for my son, 1263 01:18:53,859 --> 01:18:57,471 who’s now been living in Colorado for two years. 1264 01:19:06,045 --> 01:19:09,221 When we talk by phone, he tells me he's making progress 1265 01:19:09,222 --> 01:19:12,051 on getting his media business up and running. 1266 01:19:15,707 --> 01:19:19,755 He says he's been filming demo reels for ski clients. 1267 01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:24,455 He says he misses us. 1268 01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:28,980 The last time I visited Adrian, 1269 01:19:28,981 --> 01:19:31,288 he seemed to be doing okay. 1270 01:19:31,941 --> 01:19:36,032 But I always leave knowing I'm probably not seeing the whole picture. 1271 01:20:15,898 --> 01:20:19,901 Adrian had told me he’d begun shooting footage for a documentary 1272 01:20:19,902 --> 01:20:23,819 with and about his friends and what their lives were like. 1273 01:20:26,125 --> 01:20:27,909 We're making our movie, 1274 01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:29,693 and right now we're making it by talking. 1275 01:20:29,694 --> 01:20:31,130 Exactly. 1276 01:20:31,522 --> 01:20:33,436 No one can help me. 1277 01:20:33,437 --> 01:20:35,438 No doctor can help me. 1278 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,222 No friend can help me. 1279 01:20:37,223 --> 01:20:40,226 Not in the end... No one can help me except me. 1280 01:20:40,661 --> 01:20:42,707 If I can even help me... 1281 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,419 You’ll get a kick out of looking at the book. 1282 01:21:00,725 --> 01:21:04,903 They’re thinking of every part and every possible actor. 1283 01:21:05,512 --> 01:21:06,992 I could just be myself but like... 1284 01:21:08,124 --> 01:21:09,472 You know? 1285 01:21:09,473 --> 01:21:10,603 You should be your dad, though. You know? 1286 01:21:10,604 --> 01:21:12,170 That would be pretty epic. 1287 01:21:12,171 --> 01:21:14,390 I mean, how could they not cast you as your dad? 1288 01:21:14,391 --> 01:21:15,913 because you’re like the same age. 1289 01:21:15,914 --> 01:21:16,914 I don’t know. because you’re like the same age. 1290 01:21:16,915 --> 01:21:17,915 It’s because they want like a... 1291 01:21:17,916 --> 01:21:18,785 You’d just have to grow a beard. 1292 01:21:18,786 --> 01:21:20,352 They want a star who has... 1293 01:21:20,353 --> 01:21:22,964 you know, some mainstream-like shit. 1294 01:21:22,965 --> 01:21:24,922 Dude, all you have to do is grow a beard 1295 01:21:24,923 --> 01:21:27,447 and you could be your dad so... 1296 01:21:30,059 --> 01:21:31,581 We're gonna find it. 1297 01:21:31,582 --> 01:21:33,496 Dude, that's fucking bullshit. 1298 01:21:33,497 --> 01:21:34,932 There's a piece of bud on the ground. 1299 01:21:34,933 --> 01:21:36,891 Wait, wait, stop! What's under this bag? 1300 01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,109 Ganja. 1301 01:21:38,110 --> 01:21:39,110 What is all this? 1302 01:21:39,111 --> 01:21:40,896 Is that all weed? 1303 01:21:41,897 --> 01:21:42,679 Is this weed? 1304 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:43,942 That’s his shit... 1305 01:21:44,290 --> 01:21:46,074 But the footage Adrian left behind, 1306 01:21:46,075 --> 01:21:49,860 gradually became more and more about drug use. 1307 01:21:49,861 --> 01:21:53,560 And especially his own struggles with addiction. 1308 01:21:59,784 --> 01:22:02,787 So it's Oxy like Roxies? 1309 01:22:03,614 --> 01:22:06,616 What made you buy this, what was in your motive? 1310 01:22:06,617 --> 01:22:07,704 It’s like candy. 1311 01:22:07,705 --> 01:22:09,184 Do you like candy? 1312 01:22:09,185 --> 01:22:10,751 No, I actually hate candy. 1313 01:22:40,129 --> 01:22:41,913 Listen. 1314 01:22:43,088 --> 01:22:45,786 I started off just like you. 1315 01:22:47,223 --> 01:22:48,746 I think that... 1316 01:22:50,008 --> 01:22:51,705 it’s going to be interesting to document 1317 01:22:52,402 --> 01:22:55,927 regarding the American drug problem and prescription problem... 1318 01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:58,930 and myself. 1319 01:23:00,236 --> 01:23:02,499 Which is probably the hugest thing of all 1320 01:23:03,065 --> 01:23:05,981 I mean, not cause it’s me, but because... 1321 01:23:06,633 --> 01:23:08,113 I mean... 1322 01:23:08,635 --> 01:23:12,509 I know you think this is probably bullshit, but... 1323 01:23:24,434 --> 01:23:27,871 One night, we got a call from a Colorado hospital 1324 01:23:27,872 --> 01:23:32,790 saying that Adrian has checked into a drug detox unit for a week. 1325 01:23:33,443 --> 01:23:37,315 When he emerges from detox, he tells me his film has become about how 1326 01:23:37,316 --> 01:23:40,405 drug addiction was wrecking his life. 1327 01:23:40,406 --> 01:23:43,321 And how it ruined his relationship with his girlfriend. 1328 01:23:43,322 --> 01:23:47,283 Who had already been battling addiction issues of her own. 1329 01:23:48,762 --> 01:23:53,070 I've not been in the habit of bringing my camera when I visited Adrian, 1330 01:23:53,071 --> 01:23:56,596 but this time he asked me to bring it with me. 1331 01:24:00,948 --> 01:24:02,949 About three weeks ago, 1332 01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:08,260 I came out of a treatment place called Centennial Peaks. 1333 01:24:09,305 --> 01:24:12,263 It’s actually not in Centennial, Colorado but 1334 01:24:12,264 --> 01:24:14,222 a little bit outside of Boulder. 1335 01:24:14,223 --> 01:24:18,443 And it was only a week long, it was technically a psych ward. 1336 01:24:18,444 --> 01:24:21,926 So there's no shoelaces and... 1337 01:24:23,623 --> 01:24:24,929 What do you mean, there was no shoelaces? 1338 01:24:26,322 --> 01:24:27,452 Because they... 1339 01:24:27,453 --> 01:24:30,151 Well, now I have some on but, 1340 01:24:30,152 --> 01:24:33,284 because they don't want people to hang themselves 1341 01:24:33,285 --> 01:24:35,417 so they take away your shoelaces. 1342 01:24:35,418 --> 01:24:38,682 It's pretty common with any of those type of places, I guess. 1343 01:24:39,552 --> 01:24:43,469 I was there to detox or withdraw from 1344 01:24:45,471 --> 01:24:48,125 opiates or specifically, 1345 01:24:48,126 --> 01:24:51,086 black tar heroin and 1346 01:24:54,698 --> 01:24:56,438 You know, I think it helped a lot and 1347 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,963 I’m trying to move forward from there. 1348 01:24:59,790 --> 01:25:02,575 I was snorting OxyContin. 1349 01:25:03,881 --> 01:25:05,795 Not regularly enough where I... 1350 01:25:05,796 --> 01:25:09,843 had like experienced really withdrawals from that before. 1351 01:25:10,453 --> 01:25:12,845 But I enjoyed it, you know. 1352 01:25:12,846 --> 01:25:17,676 It gave me anxiety relief and an energy boost 1353 01:25:17,677 --> 01:25:19,548 and it was nice. 1354 01:25:19,549 --> 01:25:23,422 But, that became really hard to find and really, really expensive. 1355 01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:29,471 And so someone had basically some powder. 1356 01:25:29,472 --> 01:25:34,824 and this kid, Darren, he called me into his room 1357 01:25:34,825 --> 01:25:38,220 and you know, he offered me a line of it and 1358 01:25:39,525 --> 01:25:43,006 you know, I never, I never really... 1359 01:25:43,007 --> 01:25:46,270 planned on trying heroin, I think most people 1360 01:25:46,271 --> 01:25:49,274 would say the same, but 1361 01:25:50,232 --> 01:25:52,842 it's basically the same thing as the OxyContin... 1362 01:25:52,843 --> 01:25:55,497 and it is true I mean, they're all opiates. 1363 01:25:55,498 --> 01:25:58,848 They're all basically the same thing and bind to the receptors. 1364 01:25:58,849 --> 01:26:00,024 So... 1365 01:26:02,026 --> 01:26:04,897 I just was really sad at the time and depressed or whatever 1366 01:26:04,898 --> 01:26:06,812 and I said, “What the hell” and tried that. 1367 01:26:06,813 --> 01:26:09,250 And it's not like I just got hooked after that. 1368 01:26:09,251 --> 01:26:11,209 It doesn't work like that. 1369 01:26:14,299 --> 01:26:17,520 You know, it's a slow progression, and where this last-- 1370 01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:21,131 the last year and a half, basically 1371 01:26:21,132 --> 01:26:24,135 last two years, I really... 1372 01:26:24,875 --> 01:26:26,702 started using it daily. 1373 01:26:26,703 --> 01:26:29,706 I mean, all day and all night. 1374 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:33,578 It's quite, it's quite nice. 1375 01:26:33,579 --> 01:26:35,493 It's a ritual and it's relaxing. 1376 01:26:35,494 --> 01:26:37,756 You know, it just... 1377 01:26:37,757 --> 01:26:40,063 It's a little euphoric, it's kind of like a warm blanket. 1378 01:26:40,064 --> 01:26:43,153 That's what kind of the opiate feeling is. 1379 01:26:43,154 --> 01:26:48,593 And it gives you some energy for a while, and... 1380 01:26:48,594 --> 01:26:50,029 Yeah, 1381 01:26:50,030 --> 01:26:52,162 make you sleep great and all that type of stuff. 1382 01:26:52,163 --> 01:26:55,296 So it seems like a wonder drug at first. 1383 01:26:55,297 --> 01:26:59,388 But then the reason people start injecting is because... 1384 01:27:00,606 --> 01:27:03,565 I feel like most people would know this, but 1385 01:27:03,566 --> 01:27:06,437 as your tolerance builds with it, 1386 01:27:06,438 --> 01:27:09,310 it becomes not so cheap. 1387 01:27:09,311 --> 01:27:11,268 Because... 1388 01:27:11,269 --> 01:27:15,229 You know, I can smoke through a gram in about 1389 01:27:15,230 --> 01:27:17,143 an hour if I wanted to. 1390 01:27:17,144 --> 01:27:18,580 Easily or less. 1391 01:27:18,581 --> 01:27:20,800 And that's eighty dollars, you know. 1392 01:27:21,932 --> 01:27:24,935 I think there was a way in which I should have known, or 1393 01:27:25,457 --> 01:27:28,460 did know, and yet didn't want to admit it. 1394 01:27:29,113 --> 01:27:30,244 That you were in trouble. 1395 01:27:30,245 --> 01:27:33,334 If not with heroin, then with opiates. 1396 01:27:33,335 --> 01:27:36,424 Percocet and OxyContin. 1397 01:27:36,425 --> 01:27:38,339 And I feel terrible about that. 1398 01:27:38,340 --> 01:27:40,428 I was too distracted. 1399 01:27:40,429 --> 01:27:42,952 With my so-called profession and teaching. 1400 01:27:42,953 --> 01:27:44,868 I don't think... you know 1401 01:27:45,347 --> 01:27:47,913 It's not my fault, you know, I'm not saying 1402 01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:50,220 this is all my fault, but 1403 01:27:50,221 --> 01:27:52,091 it makes me feel terrible. 1404 01:27:52,092 --> 01:27:54,399 Well, I feel bad about it too. 1405 01:27:54,791 --> 01:27:57,489 What happened with you and your girlfriend? 1406 01:27:57,837 --> 01:28:01,711 I had no idea that you were doing heroin. 1407 01:28:03,582 --> 01:28:06,454 We were completely dependent on it, so 1408 01:28:06,455 --> 01:28:09,239 if we didn’t have it for even ten hours 1409 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,373 we were sick as dogs. 1410 01:28:12,374 --> 01:28:13,853 It’s that quick. 1411 01:28:14,506 --> 01:28:15,985 Meaning that you were vomiting? 1412 01:28:15,986 --> 01:28:16,942 No 1413 01:28:16,943 --> 01:28:19,294 It’s called being dope sick. 1414 01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:23,035 You start sweating. 1415 01:28:23,036 --> 01:28:25,386 And like I said, you’re... 1416 01:28:25,387 --> 01:28:29,304 You're fairly cold but you're sweating a lot. 1417 01:28:32,263 --> 01:28:34,525 You know, there's all the ailments. 1418 01:28:34,526 --> 01:28:38,487 You can't sleep, restless legs, you’re just miserable, 1419 01:28:39,052 --> 01:28:42,055 miserable and more. 1420 01:28:42,578 --> 01:28:47,277 And so we would drive, down 36th all the way to 1421 01:28:47,278 --> 01:28:50,281 wherever that technically was... 1422 01:28:52,675 --> 01:28:55,678 And you would meet these, 1423 01:28:56,940 --> 01:29:00,812 you know, the Mexican dudes, the cartel, Mexican cartel guys. 1424 01:29:00,813 --> 01:29:02,727 And we would, 1425 01:29:02,728 --> 01:29:05,731 give them $450 every three days 1426 01:29:06,602 --> 01:29:08,603 for about a year. 1427 01:29:08,604 --> 01:29:10,169 God... 1428 01:29:10,170 --> 01:29:11,475 That's a lot of money. 1429 01:29:11,476 --> 01:29:13,522 Yeah, it is. 1430 01:29:15,393 --> 01:29:17,089 And you haven't seen her since? 1431 01:29:17,090 --> 01:29:20,311 No, the last time I heard from her was Christmas Day. 1432 01:29:23,183 --> 01:29:24,923 I really thought I was going to marry her and 1433 01:29:24,924 --> 01:29:27,012 probably have kids and stuff, so 1434 01:29:27,013 --> 01:29:29,364 it’s sad, you know, I just-- 1435 01:29:29,886 --> 01:29:32,975 I don't care about her past she had some 1436 01:29:32,976 --> 01:29:34,368 fucked up things that her past 1437 01:29:34,369 --> 01:29:37,675 and whatnot but I guess so do I in my own way, so 1438 01:29:37,676 --> 01:29:40,199 I can't really judge and I didn't, so 1439 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,768 I thought I treated her really well. 1440 01:29:44,291 --> 01:29:47,424 Introducing her to heroin is not treating her well, Adrian. 1441 01:29:47,425 --> 01:29:49,295 But, I don’t mean like... 1442 01:29:49,296 --> 01:29:51,386 It’s not like what you think. 1443 01:29:56,782 --> 01:30:00,046 If I had never used... 1444 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,702 black tar heroin out here with her 1445 01:30:04,964 --> 01:30:06,400 or in general 1446 01:30:06,401 --> 01:30:09,316 I would still be with her right now. 1447 01:30:09,708 --> 01:30:11,406 But um... 1448 01:30:14,974 --> 01:30:19,370 I don’t know where she is, or what’s going on... 1449 01:30:22,765 --> 01:30:25,506 Four months go by, 1450 01:30:25,507 --> 01:30:27,639 Adrian relapses. 1451 01:30:28,248 --> 01:30:33,949 He agrees to a five-week stay in a residential rehab facility outside Denver. 1452 01:30:33,950 --> 01:30:37,909 His mother and I are allowed to visit him for only a few hours 1453 01:30:37,910 --> 01:30:40,435 on only one day. 1454 01:30:41,871 --> 01:30:44,481 After he finishes his stint in rehab, 1455 01:30:44,482 --> 01:30:49,444 Adrian remains out west in a series of sober houses. 1456 01:30:50,706 --> 01:30:53,186 And he keeps filming. 1457 01:31:08,506 --> 01:31:12,378 This is something Adrian filmed in his apartment in Boulder. 1458 01:31:12,379 --> 01:31:16,079 Presumably for the documentary he's making about his struggles. 1459 01:31:18,081 --> 01:31:20,910 He forgot to turn on his microphone. 1460 01:32:12,178 --> 01:32:15,746 Adrian’s mother and I decide to bring him home for Thanksgiving 1461 01:32:15,747 --> 01:32:18,794 and try to persuade him to stay through Christmas. 1462 01:32:19,403 --> 01:32:23,538 His little sister will be able to see him for the first time in two years, 1463 01:32:23,886 --> 01:32:27,193 and he’ll finally be able to meet Hyun for the first time. 1464 01:32:32,242 --> 01:32:36,812 Off and on over the years, I've taken my kids to see Handel's Messiah. 1465 01:32:38,814 --> 01:32:41,598 In fact, the tradition began when Adrian 1466 01:32:41,599 --> 01:32:43,340 was still a few weeks from being born. 1467 01:32:44,515 --> 01:32:46,734 His mom and I went when she was pregnant. 1468 01:32:46,735 --> 01:32:49,519 and I could place my hand on her stomach, and 1469 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,044 I could feel Adrian kicking rhythmically. 1470 01:32:54,656 --> 01:32:56,308 Now, here we are 1471 01:32:56,309 --> 01:32:58,790 twenty-seven years later. 1472 01:33:10,889 --> 01:33:14,152 We make an appointment for Adrian with a psychiatrist 1473 01:33:14,153 --> 01:33:17,199 who agrees to prescribe Suboxone, 1474 01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,203 a drug which inhibits opioid craving. 1475 01:33:21,552 --> 01:33:24,555 Adrian begins taking the medication. 1476 01:33:29,473 --> 01:33:32,562 Adrian seems glad enough to be back. 1477 01:33:32,563 --> 01:33:35,173 I take him to see a movie in the theater, 1478 01:33:35,174 --> 01:33:37,481 something we haven't done in years. 1479 01:33:37,916 --> 01:33:40,701 He fixes a salmon dinner for Hyun and me. 1480 01:33:40,702 --> 01:33:44,009 He visits his mom and his little sister. 1481 01:33:46,490 --> 01:33:48,970 He asks me to film him performing a vaping trick 1482 01:33:48,971 --> 01:33:51,234 he learned in Colorado. 1483 01:34:16,433 --> 01:34:20,741 Adrian now says he might decide to move back to Boston for good. 1484 01:34:20,742 --> 01:34:24,180 He's even made a list of apartments that he's planning to look at. 1485 01:34:25,094 --> 01:34:27,923 I'm quietly ecstatic. 1486 01:34:29,185 --> 01:34:31,404 Oh, there we go. 1487 01:34:32,275 --> 01:34:35,974 Yeah, that's right, like these little pieces that are too long. 1488 01:34:37,410 --> 01:34:39,107 She cuts my hair sometimes. 1489 01:34:39,108 --> 01:34:40,674 No, I've never done that. 1490 01:34:40,675 --> 01:34:41,675 Yes, you have. No, I've never done that. 1491 01:34:41,676 --> 01:34:42,764 You trimmed it. 1492 01:34:44,069 --> 01:34:45,679 I think her memory is better than yours, Dad. 1493 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,203 Maybe. 1494 01:34:50,467 --> 01:34:52,861 Don't trust me. 1495 01:34:54,123 --> 01:34:55,776 Did you ask him if he wanted a haircut? 1496 01:34:55,777 --> 01:34:57,735 Yes, he said yes. 1497 01:34:58,214 --> 01:34:59,562 With a pair of... 1498 01:34:59,563 --> 01:35:03,827 With a pair of scissors I can cut your hair. 1499 01:35:03,828 --> 01:35:05,046 Cut my hair? 1500 01:35:05,047 --> 01:35:06,134 Yeah. Cut my hair? 1501 01:35:06,135 --> 01:35:07,439 You think you could do a good job? 1502 01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:08,006 Yeah. You think you could do a good job? 1503 01:35:08,833 --> 01:35:10,094 Cut Dada’s hair, Adrian. 1504 01:35:10,095 --> 01:35:10,922 No! 1505 01:35:23,805 --> 01:35:26,197 A few days after Adrian died, 1506 01:35:26,198 --> 01:35:29,462 these flowers arrived sent by friends. 1507 01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:40,646 He had relapsed and overdosed 1508 01:35:40,647 --> 01:35:45,000 and died in our bathroom the day before Christmas. 1509 01:35:46,610 --> 01:35:50,745 Because he'd been taking Suboxone and seemed to be doing so well, 1510 01:35:51,049 --> 01:35:53,617 we were stunned. 1511 01:35:55,662 --> 01:35:59,710 The medical examiner later told us that it was fentanyl that had killed him. 1512 01:36:00,624 --> 01:36:04,280 At the time, I didn't even know what fentanyl was. 1513 01:36:42,535 --> 01:36:44,362 This startled me. 1514 01:36:44,363 --> 01:36:47,322 The movement in the screen of his phone. 1515 01:36:47,323 --> 01:36:50,413 It was just my own reflection but for a moment, 1516 01:36:50,892 --> 01:36:53,458 I kind of hallucinated that it was Adrian 1517 01:36:53,459 --> 01:36:57,245 trying to film me through the shattered glass 1518 01:36:57,246 --> 01:37:00,640 as if he were trapped just beneath the surface. 1519 01:37:23,663 --> 01:37:26,666 Adrian scribbled this note and left it here. 1520 01:37:27,406 --> 01:37:30,845 More a kind of note to himself I think. 1521 01:37:31,454 --> 01:37:34,457 The note is hard to read, so I'll read it. 1522 01:37:36,372 --> 01:37:39,026 I constantly live under a bleak, threatening 1523 01:37:39,027 --> 01:37:41,290 feeling of everything being out of place. 1524 01:37:42,030 --> 01:37:45,903 Feeling like there are multiple versions of myself almost. 1525 01:37:46,469 --> 01:37:48,252 The worry, the insecurity, 1526 01:37:48,253 --> 01:37:51,430 the discomfort is simply awful. 1527 01:37:53,128 --> 01:37:54,693 I believe that at my core, 1528 01:37:54,694 --> 01:37:57,348 I am not a pathetic drug addict. 1529 01:37:57,349 --> 01:38:01,048 However, I can guarantee you that anyone living in my head 1530 01:38:01,049 --> 01:38:05,443 would turn to any immediate way out. 1531 01:38:05,444 --> 01:38:10,797 The only actual hope of me slowly trying to move forward would be... 1532 01:38:11,407 --> 01:38:12,886 And then something was spilled here. 1533 01:38:12,887 --> 01:38:15,106 I can't really read it. 1534 01:38:15,759 --> 01:38:17,499 It goes on. 1535 01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:21,546 Amazing memories through skiing, traveling, and past life. 1536 01:38:21,547 --> 01:38:25,595 I so badly want to experience this side of life. 1537 01:38:26,117 --> 01:38:29,120 And then it becomes illegible. 1538 01:39:07,898 --> 01:39:10,901 Way up high 1539 01:39:12,555 --> 01:39:20,170 And the dreams that you dare to dream 1540 01:39:20,171 --> 01:39:27,439 Oh, why can't I? 1541 01:39:42,672 --> 01:39:45,021 What happened? 1542 01:39:45,022 --> 01:39:51,507 I think there's someone across the street who requires lots of medical care. 1543 01:39:53,161 --> 01:39:57,686 The night Adrian died, while I administered CPR, 1544 01:39:57,687 --> 01:40:00,907 Hyun had guided the ambulance down the driveway. 1545 01:40:02,083 --> 01:40:05,259 While the police were collecting information from me, 1546 01:40:05,260 --> 01:40:11,701 She had to watch helplessly as the EMTs continued to try to revive Adrian. 1547 01:40:13,877 --> 01:40:16,400 Every time this happens, I think about Adrian. 1548 01:40:16,401 --> 01:40:19,404 Me too. 1549 01:40:35,333 --> 01:40:38,989 This piano has been in my family for several generations. 1550 01:40:40,077 --> 01:40:42,471 It's also been in a few of my films. 1551 01:40:50,783 --> 01:40:53,786 It followed me from Charlotte to Boston. 1552 01:40:55,788 --> 01:40:59,749 And since then, it's followed me every time I've had to move. 1553 01:41:03,144 --> 01:41:06,885 And since I can't play it anymore due to a wrist injury, 1554 01:41:06,886 --> 01:41:10,281 it's become a kind of eight-hundred-pound albatross. 1555 01:41:14,372 --> 01:41:17,200 When I had to move yet again, I finally decided 1556 01:41:17,201 --> 01:41:19,986 that I'd had enough and I would give it away. 1557 01:41:22,424 --> 01:41:24,339 But Adrian asked me not to. 1558 01:41:25,209 --> 01:41:28,212 And now, Hyun plays it. 1559 01:41:46,839 --> 01:41:50,321 Adrian stayed with us for a month and a half. 1560 01:41:51,844 --> 01:41:54,629 He was my nephew's age, but 1561 01:41:54,630 --> 01:41:58,459 strangely I felt he was like my older brother 1562 01:41:58,460 --> 01:42:02,420 because he was very caring and thoughtful. 1563 01:42:04,030 --> 01:42:08,164 When you told him you were going to sell the piano, he said, 1564 01:42:08,165 --> 01:42:12,996 “No, Dad, don't sell the piano. I'm going to give it to my kids someday.” 1565 01:42:14,215 --> 01:42:19,568 He was imagining his future with his children. 1566 01:42:51,252 --> 01:42:53,253 A year after Adrian died, 1567 01:42:53,254 --> 01:42:56,734 the DEA Arrests dozens of dealers, and 1568 01:42:56,735 --> 01:43:00,130 charges them with possession of fentanyl. 1569 01:43:00,913 --> 01:43:04,351 It occurs to me, though the chances are slim, 1570 01:43:04,352 --> 01:43:07,832 that one of the men being arraigned could’ve actually had his hands on 1571 01:43:07,833 --> 01:43:11,620 a packet of fentanyl that was sold to my son. 1572 01:43:12,795 --> 01:43:15,753 Filming isn’t allowed in the courtroom 1573 01:43:15,754 --> 01:43:19,584 and I’m only able to get one shot off before the arraignment begins. 1574 01:43:20,890 --> 01:43:23,674 But as I watch the defendants come before the judge 1575 01:43:23,675 --> 01:43:25,155 one after the other, 1576 01:43:25,634 --> 01:43:27,330 I find myself wondering, 1577 01:43:27,331 --> 01:43:30,595 is he the one who sold fentanyl to my son? 1578 01:43:51,921 --> 01:43:57,230 As time goes by, I still have no idea what to do with the anger I feel 1579 01:43:57,231 --> 01:43:59,842 about losing Adrian. 1580 01:44:01,060 --> 01:44:04,368 Anger at China for exporting illicit fentanyl. 1581 01:44:05,456 --> 01:44:08,459 Anger at the Mexican cartels that distributed it. 1582 01:44:09,721 --> 01:44:13,550 Anger at the FDA for not regulating OxyContin, 1583 01:44:13,551 --> 01:44:16,293 which is how the whole opioid epidemic began. 1584 01:44:18,687 --> 01:44:22,821 Anger at my son for letting himself get sucked into this maelstrom. 1585 01:44:24,432 --> 01:44:30,915 Anger at myself for not recognizing how serious his psychological issues were, 1586 01:44:30,916 --> 01:44:35,093 and anger at myself for not having checked his bedroom 1587 01:44:35,094 --> 01:44:38,097 the night he died. 1588 01:44:48,151 --> 01:44:50,544 I only filmed three brief shots of you 1589 01:44:50,545 --> 01:44:53,677 during the month and a half that you stayed with us. 1590 01:44:53,678 --> 01:44:56,507 Filmed them casually. 1591 01:44:59,815 --> 01:45:04,646 Now that you're gone, sometimes these shots seem like a treasure. 1592 01:45:08,563 --> 01:45:12,871 But other times they opened up a black hole for me. 1593 01:45:21,663 --> 01:45:23,272 For a year after you died, 1594 01:45:23,273 --> 01:45:24,926 maybe longer, 1595 01:45:24,927 --> 01:45:27,798 I had no desire to pick up a camera. 1596 01:45:27,799 --> 01:45:31,586 I no longer knew what it meant to try to be a filmmaker. 1597 01:45:32,326 --> 01:45:35,329 I could only keep watching things you had filmed. 1598 01:45:36,025 --> 01:45:40,464 And as I did, I began seeing the world through your eyes. 1599 01:45:46,644 --> 01:45:49,647 And so I watch, and I watch. 1600 01:45:55,261 --> 01:45:57,699 I watched the footage you shot, 1601 01:45:58,526 --> 01:46:00,745 the footage I shot. 1602 01:46:03,835 --> 01:46:06,708 I keep watching. 1603 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:25,161 But my fear now is that by looking at this footage over and over again, 1604 01:46:26,075 --> 01:46:29,512 things will slowly start shifting into making you seem 1605 01:46:29,513 --> 01:46:32,037 like a fictional character. 1606 01:46:34,257 --> 01:46:36,606 Someone who never existed 1607 01:46:36,607 --> 01:46:39,610 except on film. 1608 01:47:01,545 --> 01:47:03,546 The option rights for the various versions 1609 01:47:03,547 --> 01:47:07,246 of the “Sherman’s March” remake have lapsed. 1610 01:47:07,682 --> 01:47:12,817 No one had been able to figure out a satisfactory way to pull it off. 1611 01:47:17,779 --> 01:47:20,258 Then one day I receive a proposal 1612 01:47:20,259 --> 01:47:23,915 for an entirely different approach to an adaptation. 1613 01:47:26,135 --> 01:47:27,744 Yes, much better. 1614 01:47:27,745 --> 01:47:30,573 Again, we want to keep this drama right at one-thirty-four. 1615 01:47:30,574 --> 01:47:32,270 What are you saying there? 1616 01:47:32,271 --> 01:47:33,576 You're asking him a question. 1617 01:47:33,577 --> 01:47:36,580 How can you be a filmmaker? 1618 01:47:38,321 --> 01:47:39,669 Asking him that question. 1619 01:47:39,670 --> 01:47:41,890 All right, mean that question. 1620 01:48:00,169 --> 01:48:00,951 So glad to see you 1621 01:48:00,952 --> 01:48:01,952 You look right at him 1622 01:48:01,953 --> 01:48:03,258 So glad to see you 1623 01:48:03,259 --> 01:48:05,390 You look right at him for the first time 1624 01:48:05,391 --> 01:48:06,609 Hello Dede 1625 01:48:06,610 --> 01:48:07,871 I’m glad to meet you 1626 01:48:07,872 --> 01:48:09,612 Glad to meet you, too 1627 01:48:09,613 --> 01:48:12,267 Charleen has, to say the least 1628 01:48:12,268 --> 01:48:14,530 said a lot about you 1629 01:48:14,531 --> 01:48:15,879 Oh, and about you 1630 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:17,098 Would you stop, would you stop? 1631 01:48:17,099 --> 01:48:18,055 Don’t touch the lens 1632 01:48:18,056 --> 01:48:19,535 Turn it off! This is important 1633 01:48:19,536 --> 01:48:22,496 This is not art, this is life! 1634 01:48:28,110 --> 01:48:32,896 Ross, that's what's wrong with you 1635 01:48:32,897 --> 01:48:38,512 You've got to be more passionate 1636 01:48:39,338 --> 01:48:43,559 How can you be a filmmaker 1637 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,735 if you don't have passion? 1638 01:48:45,736 --> 01:48:48,303 I have plenty of passion 1639 01:48:48,304 --> 01:48:50,479 I don’t even know her 1640 01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:52,655 That doesn’t matter 1641 01:48:52,656 --> 01:48:55,006 I don’t know anything about her 1642 01:48:55,441 --> 01:48:58,661 What matters is the quality of your passion 1643 01:48:58,662 --> 01:49:01,491 So what that you don’t know her! That's not relevant. 1644 01:49:02,231 --> 01:49:04,885 So what that you don’t know her 1645 01:49:04,886 --> 01:49:07,497 That's not relevant 1646 01:49:10,065 --> 01:49:14,286 I can't help but wonder what you'd say about all this Adrian. 1647 01:49:14,896 --> 01:49:17,550 And if you were helping me film this, 1648 01:49:17,551 --> 01:49:21,162 would you have advised repositioning the camera? 1649 01:49:21,163 --> 01:49:25,080 Maybe, doing a few slow zooms? 1650 01:49:26,864 --> 01:49:29,867 I wonder what you would have said. 1651 01:49:30,564 --> 01:49:32,956 “That's a good shot.” 1652 01:49:32,957 --> 01:49:35,524 You were so passionate, Adrian. 1653 01:49:35,525 --> 01:49:38,528 You were passionate about everything. 1654 01:50:05,033 --> 01:50:06,730 Life is just... 1655 01:50:07,470 --> 01:50:11,952 so extraordinary in every way. 1656 01:50:11,953 --> 01:50:14,912 Everything I see is a surprise. 1657 01:50:15,957 --> 01:50:17,653 Look at the wall. 1658 01:50:17,654 --> 01:50:20,787 Those are just people that I used to know and still think of, 1659 01:50:20,788 --> 01:50:22,789 and most of them are dead. 1660 01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:25,966 But I still think about them and their brains. 1661 01:50:25,967 --> 01:50:28,273 I think about their brains still. 1662 01:50:30,885 --> 01:50:33,626 My father's up there on the wall. 1663 01:50:33,627 --> 01:50:35,540 My mother's up there on the wall. 1664 01:50:35,541 --> 01:50:38,326 My brothers and sisters are up there by the wall. 1665 01:50:38,327 --> 01:50:40,415 All my kids are on the wall. 1666 01:50:40,416 --> 01:50:42,809 And they come over to my house all the time. 1667 01:50:42,810 --> 01:50:47,336 And we have a rip-roaring good time. 1668 01:50:51,775 --> 01:50:54,430 Family is everything, I think. 1669 01:50:55,997 --> 01:51:00,304 The only person who's not still together in our family 1670 01:51:00,305 --> 01:51:02,307 is you. 1671 01:51:07,965 --> 01:51:11,402 And I think you're just amazing how you can 1672 01:51:11,403 --> 01:51:13,274 make something out of nothing. 1673 01:51:13,275 --> 01:51:16,146 That thing that I'm looking down into 1674 01:51:16,147 --> 01:51:18,714 is the ugliest thing I ever saw. 1675 01:51:18,715 --> 01:51:21,325 I mean, it's an ugly piece of equipment to me. 1676 01:51:21,326 --> 01:51:23,763 There's no beauty in it to me 1677 01:51:23,764 --> 01:51:25,287 because I don't understand it. 1678 01:51:25,722 --> 01:51:29,290 It looks at me and I can't see myself in it 1679 01:51:29,291 --> 01:51:31,293 and therefore, it's doubly ugly. 1680 01:51:32,294 --> 01:51:35,949 It’s just a piece of equipment that you've got to hold all the time 1681 01:51:35,950 --> 01:51:37,646 and look at me with a grin, 1682 01:51:37,647 --> 01:51:40,781 I can't see anything but you and I don't like this equipment. 1683 01:51:45,002 --> 01:51:47,135 Tell me about the dream you had, Adrian. 1684 01:51:47,788 --> 01:51:50,312 We went to this lake. 1685 01:51:50,704 --> 01:51:54,489 It was a cool, it was a beautiful, big lake 1686 01:51:54,490 --> 01:51:56,796 and we got in a submarine, I looked through the window 1687 01:51:56,797 --> 01:51:57,927 And I saw-- 1688 01:51:57,928 --> 01:52:00,451 We started diving and... 1689 01:52:00,452 --> 01:52:02,802 I saw a giant squid, so three-dimensional 1690 01:52:02,803 --> 01:52:04,760 I thought it was real. It was amazing. 1691 01:52:04,761 --> 01:52:05,805 Were you scared? 1692 01:52:05,806 --> 01:52:08,199 No, not at first. 1693 01:52:09,853 --> 01:52:11,549 And then we went down a tunnel. 1694 01:52:11,550 --> 01:52:14,074 So it was very claustrophobic. 1695 01:52:14,075 --> 01:52:15,989 And I screamed, 1696 01:52:15,990 --> 01:52:17,817 “We’re losing air!” 1697 01:52:17,818 --> 01:52:19,862 And then... 1698 01:52:19,863 --> 01:52:22,517 I screamed, “We’re losing air!” in real life. 1699 01:52:22,518 --> 01:52:24,127 Like not in the dream. 1700 01:52:24,128 --> 01:52:26,347 But I screamed it, like really screamed it. 1701 01:52:26,348 --> 01:52:28,089 And then I woke up. 1702 01:52:28,916 --> 01:52:31,788 I'm so relieved to be alive. 1703 01:52:34,965 --> 01:52:36,705 Somehow, as a kid, 1704 01:52:36,706 --> 01:52:39,970 you became obsessed with giant squids. 1705 01:52:41,363 --> 01:52:42,450 When you were nine, 1706 01:52:42,451 --> 01:52:45,149 you wrote a poem about giant squids. 1707 01:52:45,671 --> 01:52:49,849 The poem goes like this: 1708 01:52:49,850 --> 01:52:53,766 When squids feed, there is love in the lead. 1709 01:52:53,767 --> 01:52:58,772 But when squids dive, love is just a try. 1710 01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:03,514 In some ways, the poem doesn't really make sense. 1711 01:53:03,515 --> 01:53:06,954 But in other ways it does, at least for me. 1712 01:53:08,477 --> 01:53:10,652 I hope you knew, Adrian 1713 01:53:10,653 --> 01:53:12,872 that no matter how deep you dived, 1714 01:53:12,873 --> 01:53:16,398 I never stopped loving you. 123020

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