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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,339 --> 00:00:11,880 [MUSIC PLAYS IN BACKGROUND] 2 00:01:25,043 --> 00:01:28,286 I remember the first time that I got on a motorbike 3 00:01:28,713 --> 00:01:32,297 I just had this incredible sense that I could go anywhere 4 00:01:32,383 --> 00:01:36,752 do anything and you just want to ride and ride and ride. 5 00:01:36,846 --> 00:01:38,883 If I have a bad day, I go ride my motorbike, 6 00:01:38,973 --> 00:01:40,384 if I'm pissed off, I go ride my motorbike, 7 00:01:40,433 --> 00:01:42,765 if I'm happy and it's a great day, I go ride my motorbike. 8 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:46,353 I think motorcycles are the most interesting 9 00:01:46,815 --> 00:01:49,477 and curious mechanical phenomenon 10 00:01:50,151 --> 00:01:54,736 because you straddle it, you ride it, it's a very intimate experience. 11 00:01:55,073 --> 00:01:57,565 There's nothing like it. I think it just makes the relationship 12 00:01:57,742 --> 00:02:02,578 with this machine, this curious kind of miracle of physics that is a motorcycle. 13 00:02:02,664 --> 00:02:04,655 It makes that relationship a lot deeper. 14 00:02:05,708 --> 00:02:08,996 It gets into your blood in a very real way 15 00:02:09,170 --> 00:02:11,332 but it literally becomes part of who you are 16 00:02:11,381 --> 00:02:14,294 as a human being and it starts to change you 17 00:02:15,218 --> 00:02:16,800 and I think it changes people for the better. 18 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,341 When you can sit in a room with people who have devoted this much of their life 19 00:02:23,476 --> 00:02:28,937 to it and look at what they're doing, you know they've got a screw loose 20 00:02:29,065 --> 00:02:31,898 and they've got the same loose screw that I have. 21 00:02:32,402 --> 00:02:34,734 When you're truly addicted to riding bikes, 22 00:02:34,779 --> 00:02:37,146 like I am, you can't have a bike in the 23 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:43,327 garage and not ride it. I'm not even making the decision to be able to ride. 24 00:02:43,413 --> 00:02:45,575 If there's a bike there, I'm already gone. 25 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:49,958 From a logical point of view, there is no reason for a motorcycle 26 00:02:50,837 --> 00:02:54,205 and yet we have these infernal contraptions 27 00:02:54,966 --> 00:03:00,803 which are difficult, uncomfortable, dangerous 28 00:03:01,097 --> 00:03:03,134 and we're fascinated with them. 29 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:08,018 That's what I connect to now, that's what I feel passionate about, 30 00:03:08,646 --> 00:03:13,265 that's what gets me up every morning and keeps me up late at night. 31 00:03:13,401 --> 00:03:19,192 This two wheeled transport device that is the closest thing to flying. 32 00:03:20,575 --> 00:03:21,861 It really is. 33 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:27,079 A custom motorcycle really is a piece of 34 00:03:27,165 --> 00:03:29,953 mechanical art in the way that a car isn't 35 00:03:30,376 --> 00:03:35,246 because you look at a car, everything is hidden, it's a body and four wheels. 36 00:03:35,381 --> 00:03:38,544 A motorcycle, you can see it. You can see the engine, 37 00:03:38,843 --> 00:03:43,838 everything is on display so that's a form of art really and doing the custom thing 38 00:03:43,932 --> 00:03:46,014 kind of amplifies that art. 39 00:03:46,935 --> 00:03:51,145 There aren't many ways to express who you are these days you know 40 00:03:51,356 --> 00:03:55,600 it's an era of mass production. Everybody had the same phone, 41 00:03:56,110 --> 00:04:00,525 everybody had the same car. You know, you live in a shoe box in a suburb. 42 00:04:01,324 --> 00:04:06,910 But a bike is saying 'this is who I am, this is me as an individual'. 43 00:04:07,622 --> 00:04:10,785 So this bike here, that was found in somebody's front garden. 44 00:04:10,875 --> 00:04:12,661 It was the perfect example of what we could 45 00:04:12,752 --> 00:04:16,746 take and turn into this bike over here. 46 00:04:17,674 --> 00:04:19,381 The whole point is to work on your own 47 00:04:19,467 --> 00:04:21,299 thing and make it individual to yourself 48 00:04:21,552 --> 00:04:24,510 and not have something that everyone else has got, 49 00:04:24,973 --> 00:04:27,886 to have your character stamped on something you've built. 50 00:04:28,101 --> 00:04:30,388 Yeah there's bits that I've had to make for it. 51 00:04:30,478 --> 00:04:33,140 There's some Heath Robinson stuff on there. 52 00:04:33,356 --> 00:04:37,224 It doesn't function perfectly, it's not the quickest bike in the world 53 00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:39,150 but it's my bike. 54 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:43,113 Having something unique is far cooler than having a mass-produced motorcycle. 55 00:04:43,992 --> 00:04:45,073 Apparently. 56 00:04:46,244 --> 00:04:50,829 It's about individuality and going into a Triumph dealership, 57 00:04:50,915 --> 00:04:54,624 a Ducati or Harley dealership, and saying 'l want mine a bit like that' 58 00:04:54,711 --> 00:04:58,204 it gives about as much individuality as getting a different colour phone case 59 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:00,130 for your iPhone, your generic iPhone. 60 00:05:00,258 --> 00:05:03,922 I love seeing people doing stuff that no-one's seen before. 61 00:05:04,345 --> 00:05:08,259 Good or bad, you just make the craziest thing you can think of every time around. 62 00:05:08,516 --> 00:05:10,382 You know, like when people just go way outside the box. 63 00:05:13,229 --> 00:05:14,310 Just throw the rule book out. 64 00:05:28,703 --> 00:05:31,616 What we don't have enough of is actual real individuals 65 00:05:31,706 --> 00:05:35,665 and I think someone like David from El Solitario is a great example 66 00:05:35,752 --> 00:05:38,619 of someone who genuinely is a fucking individual. 67 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:41,918 I love David as a human being, he can be a total asshole 68 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:46,085 you know, but I love him to death. He's so genuine. 69 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:49,012 He's definitely put himself out there as far as bikes go. 70 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:53,805 His most hated bike was also, I think, his most publicised bike by far. 71 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:58,188 That BMW Nine T, you know. The thing looks like a shopping cart but 72 00:05:58,733 --> 00:06:02,727 it photographed so awesome and it had so much vibe to it. 73 00:06:04,614 --> 00:06:08,198 When Paul designated this formula, I know the world's most hated 74 00:06:08,284 --> 00:06:13,529 motorcycle I found it really funny so I adopted it because it just made fun of it. 75 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:19,376 It took some of my grief out. We were a tiny company and suddenly 76 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:23,209 this huge monster calls us and says ‘hey we want to do a motorcycle with you, 77 00:06:23,299 --> 00:06:27,213 we're going to pay you, you have creative freedom'. I wanted to make them proud. 78 00:06:27,970 --> 00:06:29,381 I thought everybody was going to love it. 79 00:06:29,514 --> 00:06:32,302 I never in my life thought everybody would hate it. 80 00:06:33,476 --> 00:06:38,767 But I also understood, I knew enough that I had done something really amazing. 81 00:06:39,148 --> 00:06:43,312 I just embraced my personality and tried to make a company out of it and 82 00:06:43,403 --> 00:06:48,443 that's like a myth buster and I can... OK let's fuck it up. 83 00:06:48,741 --> 00:06:52,700 I think it's defined very much more by the rider than the bike itself. 84 00:06:52,995 --> 00:06:55,487 Everyone seems to be riding different bikes, 85 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:57,372 their interests go off in different areas 86 00:06:57,458 --> 00:07:00,667 where there's some into choppers, some into flat tracker, some into racing 87 00:07:01,295 --> 00:07:05,289 is that it's much more of a level playing field. It's less about money and budget 88 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:07,252 and what you can afford and what you can do. 89 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:09,797 The people who have spent their time doing stuff, 90 00:07:09,887 --> 00:07:13,005 learning stuff, researching stuff, living motorcycling. 91 00:07:14,225 --> 00:07:17,013 Today if you look at really what's happening in New York, 92 00:07:17,061 --> 00:07:18,927 it's a bunch of $500 Hondas. 93 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,848 They throw the seat away and put a plank of wood on there that's this size 94 00:07:23,484 --> 00:07:26,977 and that's a custom bike. It's like 'yvou go for it dude' and if that's who's 95 00:07:27,071 --> 00:07:29,483 riding by then he's using his bike, that's cool. 96 00:07:29,740 --> 00:07:33,950 I like the fact that people actually... they'll buy a motorcycle and cut it up 97 00:07:34,203 --> 00:07:37,537 and do something and people are always asking 'how do you get started?' and 98 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:40,115 dude, just make the cut and then you've started. 99 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:45,455 Breathing life back into a dead engine is creativity by essence. 100 00:07:46,048 --> 00:07:49,791 You breathe life back, you created life where there was no more life. 101 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,928 I didn't expect it to be a culture that 102 00:07:53,222 --> 00:07:56,806 had so much depth on the engineering side 103 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:59,142 and the artistry and the community. 104 00:07:59,395 --> 00:08:04,561 I think that trifecta is very relevant today. 105 00:08:04,901 --> 00:08:08,986 It's like it doesn't matter if you're a race bike guy or a drag bike guy 106 00:08:09,071 --> 00:08:11,438 or a street bike guy. Nobody judges. 107 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:14,324 Or some people do but who cares about them. 108 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:18,073 It's cool when people, they do what they want 109 00:08:18,206 --> 00:08:19,571 and that's when the purest stuff comes out. 110 00:08:20,124 --> 00:08:25,164 This cool thing that's happening, I think we're just really lucky to be around it 111 00:08:25,254 --> 00:08:27,040 while it's actually happening. 112 00:08:29,008 --> 00:08:34,549 The motorcycling world is becoming like an estuary where it's all mixing and 113 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:36,380 I think all these cultures are coming together 114 00:08:36,390 --> 00:08:37,801 and there's going to be a lot of clashing 115 00:08:37,892 --> 00:08:39,007 and a lot of people are going to hate that 116 00:08:39,060 --> 00:08:41,802 that's happening get over it, it's happening. 117 00:08:42,146 --> 00:08:44,012 The motorcycle world is changing and honestly 118 00:08:44,106 --> 00:08:45,346 I think it's changing for the better. 119 00:08:45,816 --> 00:08:50,811 The new, sort of, custom scene has empowered a lot of people, 120 00:08:50,988 --> 00:08:55,403 it's democratised people to feel like they can make a motorcycle 121 00:08:55,701 --> 00:09:00,912 which is huge because, from the 90s onwards, motorcycles had become appliances 122 00:09:00,998 --> 00:09:04,161 they'd become so good, you didn't need to know how to do anything because 123 00:09:04,252 --> 00:09:07,745 there was nothing to do. If it broke, you couldn't fix it anyway. 124 00:09:08,422 --> 00:09:13,792 If you want to call it a new wave scene, then fine but I would just call it 125 00:09:13,886 --> 00:09:15,217 an evolution of motorcycling. 126 00:09:29,402 --> 00:09:34,738 Originally it was a conversation that John Copeland had with Jeffrey Shad. 127 00:09:34,991 --> 00:09:38,825 There wasn't really a show that showcased 128 00:09:38,911 --> 00:09:42,199 builders in the aesthetic quality that they appreciated. 129 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:47,501 So just giving a platform and opportunity to have people show off their work. 130 00:09:47,628 --> 00:09:54,842 It's the invitational because we go out of our way to invite someone to showcase 131 00:09:54,885 --> 00:09:57,718 something that they've created, that we really appreciate. 132 00:09:58,556 --> 00:10:06,054 I think good work speaks for itself and it doesn't need to be a certain style, 133 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,350 a certain era, a certain period, you know, amazing work is amazing work 134 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:13,276 no matter what kind of bike it is. 135 00:10:13,821 --> 00:10:18,782 A lot of people ask that we should get a bigger space, more bike and what not 136 00:10:18,868 --> 00:10:25,615 but I think it's good to have that small amount of bikes, more exclusive, 137 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:30,119 and also you get to spend more time with each bike to just enjoy. 138 00:10:30,838 --> 00:10:35,583 We want to kind of create the event that we can bridge those gaps, 139 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:39,382 celebrate the whole culture of motorcycles. 140 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:46,852 You'll see your Fortune 500 CEO sitting 141 00:10:46,937 --> 00:10:50,100 right next to a Hell's Angel guy and 142 00:10:50,232 --> 00:10:51,848 both of them are appreciating the same thing. 143 00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:54,525 I mean, I never see them in any other context 144 00:10:54,612 --> 00:10:58,697 other than that, things like these shows, like the invitational, do that. 145 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:01,650 It just forces people to participate in each other's world. 146 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:05,912 But there's no awards. There's no 1st place, 2nd place, 3rd place. 147 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:07,955 That's another thing that's cool. 148 00:11:08,250 --> 00:11:10,662 You can't really judge these bikes against each other. 149 00:11:10,878 --> 00:11:16,499 Because they're all so different so to me just being on the list and 150 00:11:16,592 --> 00:11:22,008 having that recognition is just enough. It's all you really want. It's cool. 151 00:12:55,649 --> 00:12:58,107 I think motorcycles themselves are counter-cultural. 152 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:01,687 They're intimidating, they're aggressive, they're fast, they're dangerous. 153 00:13:02,239 --> 00:13:06,528 Ever since the first bike came, someone wanted to pull it apart, individualise it, 154 00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:10,954 make it faster, tweak it, and put their own personality into it. 155 00:13:11,665 --> 00:13:18,162 Motorcycles are cool, they've always been cool and if you had been alive in 1910, 156 00:13:18,339 --> 00:13:19,829 you would have thought motorcycles were cool 157 00:13:19,924 --> 00:13:21,835 because they were cool and guess what? 158 00:13:22,134 --> 00:13:25,047 they still are cool. We're on this little 159 00:13:25,137 --> 00:13:30,223 tip of the present and there's 150 years 160 00:13:30,851 --> 00:13:34,845 of interesting stuff that's every bit as cool as what's happening today. 161 00:13:35,314 --> 00:13:39,558 There's a history of bike that you need to understand and be aware of 162 00:13:40,194 --> 00:13:43,403 but at the end of the day, you're a free person, you can do whatever you want. 163 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:48,029 But I think you need an understanding of what's gone on before you in some respect 164 00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:52,408 and then you can make a judgement call on certain things 165 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:55,532 but if you just ignore everything, you're just a prick. 166 00:13:56,210 --> 00:14:00,044 The historical roots in this, you could go back to after the second world war 167 00:14:00,172 --> 00:14:03,085 in America where all the soldiers came back 168 00:14:03,175 --> 00:14:05,007 and they chopped up Harleys and that's 169 00:14:05,094 --> 00:14:09,008 where the bobber scene came from. In the UK it was from the 60s, 170 00:14:09,598 --> 00:14:12,761 from the Cafe Racers, the Ton Up boys, trying to make their bikes lighter. 171 00:14:13,102 --> 00:14:16,311 It wasn't about aesthetics then, it was making it as fast as possible. 172 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:22,397 It was back in the 50s/60s where, when there was no surf going on in California 173 00:14:22,486 --> 00:14:26,855 they would get on their Triumphs and BSAs and Nortons and head off into the hills 174 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:32,615 so that culture moved on and then changing their bikes, adapting their bikes. 175 00:14:33,247 --> 00:14:36,660 In the late 50s, California motorcycle clubs, 176 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:39,451 especially started to alter their motorcycles 177 00:14:39,545 --> 00:14:44,790 to make them lighter and longer and more elegant and eventually these became 178 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:48,093 painted wildly and chromed as the 50s went 179 00:14:48,178 --> 00:14:51,637 into the 60s they began to alter the frames 180 00:14:51,724 --> 00:14:54,682 and they became choppers by the early 1960s 181 00:14:54,768 --> 00:14:56,850 as we know them. And the ultimate expression 182 00:14:56,937 --> 00:14:59,929 of the chopper were the bikes that you see in Easy Rider. 183 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:08,193 Exposure on television in the early 2000s really grew the awareness 184 00:15:08,616 --> 00:15:11,734 for the general public to custom bikes. The Jesse James stuff, 185 00:15:12,119 --> 00:15:15,862 Orange County Choppers, and people like that but 2008, 186 00:15:16,332 --> 00:15:20,200 economic depression, and killed a lot of the custom bike world. 187 00:15:21,128 --> 00:15:27,500 You know, same thing with us, I mean at a point, we're building huge ZX14 or 188 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:30,718 a Busa stretched thing, they're expensive 189 00:15:31,221 --> 00:15:34,054 machines and then the market collapses, 190 00:15:34,099 --> 00:15:38,343 I remember the photo shoot we were on when the market collapsed. It was a reset. 191 00:15:39,063 --> 00:15:44,604 Customs had become kind of grotesque and then the reset happens 192 00:15:44,735 --> 00:15:49,605 and you have a $1000 motorcycle with $500 worth of money put into it 193 00:15:49,782 --> 00:15:53,070 from a guy who just learned how to weld two 194 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,322 weeks ago and you're looking at it going 195 00:15:56,872 --> 00:16:02,163 ... it's compelling. It may not ride for shit but it's a cool looking bike. 196 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:06,121 It seems like 2008 was the year, there was the big crash, 197 00:16:06,674 --> 00:16:09,462 everybody had all those big bikes and they couldn't sell them. 198 00:16:09,802 --> 00:16:16,344 And it took the whole industry back to square one and I think it made a lot 199 00:16:16,433 --> 00:16:21,644 of us re-think what we were doing, what was important, not to be corny but 200 00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:24,313 I think it brought back the soul of motorcycling. 201 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:30,566 People were buying cheap Japanese bikes 300/500, whatever the money was 202 00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:37,403 and making that vehicle your own because you would do it still in an affordable way 203 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:42,324 something that was unique. And that was, you know, a wake up call for me. 204 00:16:42,459 --> 00:16:45,201 It was a wake-up call for the whole company. 205 00:16:45,713 --> 00:16:52,380 So Analog Motorcycles started in 2008. I built a custom bike was kind of um... 206 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:56,129 on a whim. Did it. After the bike was done it got a lot of press. 207 00:16:56,390 --> 00:17:01,851 Started getting people randomly, all over the country, asking me to build a custom. 208 00:17:02,187 --> 00:17:08,308 It started to take off, build steam, then in 2013 I started to quit my day job 209 00:17:08,402 --> 00:17:11,064 and go full time and I haven't looked back. 210 00:17:11,613 --> 00:17:14,731 I grew up riding on the back of my dad's Vincent and he grew up riding 211 00:17:14,825 --> 00:17:18,068 on the back of his dad's Vincent. So there's quite, family influences there. 212 00:17:18,787 --> 00:17:22,701 I lost my bike license through speeding so if I 213 00:17:22,791 --> 00:17:24,657 couldn't ride a bike I thought I'd build one. 214 00:17:25,169 --> 00:17:31,415 I spent a few years as a flaming alcoholic and when I got through all of that 215 00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:39,181 I started working a lot to keep my mind away from that so maybe I just transferred 216 00:17:39,516 --> 00:17:43,180 one actual addiction to a new one, I don't know. 217 00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:51,351 I was in the foreign service for many years and built motorcycles on the side 218 00:17:52,196 --> 00:17:56,565 as a second job. I usually started my evening at 7 o'clock in the workshop 219 00:17:56,658 --> 00:18:00,868 and I worked until midnight, 1 o'clock in the morning. Over time it just 220 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:09,620 became the focus of my life and now the last 12 years it's a full time business. 221 00:18:10,047 --> 00:18:16,134 Yeah I started out mainly in advertising, I was in a big agency in Richmond 222 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:22,341 Virginia for about 11 years. I got laid off. They came and told me and everything 223 00:18:22,434 --> 00:18:26,974 kind of went in slow motion for a second and like, oh I'm getting laid off. 224 00:18:27,981 --> 00:18:35,274 But at the same time I felt like it was actually liberating. I'm not going to 225 00:18:35,531 --> 00:18:39,775 go back to advertising and do that stuff when I could start building motorcycles 226 00:18:39,993 --> 00:18:41,609 ‘cause I'd already been doing it for a while. 227 00:18:42,162 --> 00:18:46,201 I had a great job with a start-up company doing really cool work, getting patents, 228 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:49,952 designing the coolest stuff with all the resources I could ever want, 229 00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:53,455 an engineers dream job, with a great group of guys and I was like, nah, 230 00:18:53,757 --> 00:18:56,044 I'm going to leave, I'm going to move to Texas, I'm going to start a 231 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:58,718 motorcycle shop and they're like 'you're nuts, you're out of your mind, 232 00:18:58,804 --> 00:19:01,762 you're destined to be broke for the rest of your life' which so far 233 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:05,058 is not that far off. And I'm saying ‘no come be a broke dick 234 00:19:05,102 --> 00:19:06,888 with me, let's have nothing.' 235 00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:09,895 I didn't even get into motorcycles, I didn't have a choice. 236 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:16,190 My whole family in Lebanon/Syria were metal workers, tinsmiths and mechanics 237 00:19:16,321 --> 00:19:24,615 and when they came here, they brought tools. My father had 60/70 bikes 238 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:31,577 in the yard. I was 15, 16 where he told me 'if you can fix one of those bikes 239 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:33,001 in the back, you can have it'. 240 00:19:33,547 --> 00:19:38,166 I worked for a large bank for 6 years, I was a manager there and I definitely 241 00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:42,470 could have continued my career in the bank but it just wasn't me. 242 00:19:42,556 --> 00:19:45,799 We could feel that there was something going on, when we did the blogging, 243 00:19:45,893 --> 00:19:51,639 we see the number of visitors just... so I think it was more accidental 244 00:19:51,732 --> 00:19:56,226 that we just happened to do that at the time when other people got 245 00:19:56,486 --> 00:19:57,976 more or less the same idea. 246 00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:02,364 Wheels & Waves started as the Southsiders anniversary. 247 00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:11,246 There was a party, they did in Toulouse, and we were like, 20 guys 248 00:20:12,336 --> 00:20:19,800 then the idea of making a bigger, better show, more happening in Vincent's brain 249 00:20:20,177 --> 00:20:25,172 and the Southsiders with Jerome. One summer we said, OK we're going to do it. 250 00:20:25,265 --> 00:20:27,472 We're going to do this event, it's going to be called Wheels & Waves. 251 00:20:28,602 --> 00:20:34,518 It was about bringing everything that is cool about motorcycles 252 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:40,820 without looking at the different scenes as independent entities. 253 00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:43,113 It was something that had never been done before. 254 00:20:43,617 --> 00:20:47,485 We just, from a profound love of motorcycles, especially Vincent 255 00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:53,165 ahead of it, of the movement, he wanted to build a really inclusive event. 256 00:20:56,505 --> 00:21:01,090 This is really bigger than us. This is much bigger than us and there is 257 00:21:01,176 --> 00:21:04,510 not one Wheels & Waves, there are thousands of Wheels & Waves. 258 00:21:05,389 --> 00:21:09,053 It just depends of what yours looks like. Wheels & Waves now is 259 00:21:09,184 --> 00:21:14,770 just an excuse for motorcycle freaks to travel, take a week off work, 260 00:21:14,982 --> 00:21:17,314 and ride with your buddies. That's the thing. 261 00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:20,393 Yeah that's the thing, you live it. You're not just a spectator, 262 00:21:20,487 --> 00:21:25,232 you're an actor of the events. The surfing competition, the punk's peak competition, 263 00:21:25,409 --> 00:21:29,448 the dirt track competition, the ridings with the people, even the 264 00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:33,532 hanging out in the city with your bikers, your crew. You are part of 265 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:38,745 it and you're there. I don't know so many of us that have the same spirit. 266 00:21:39,047 --> 00:21:42,039 For me we are in the middle of what motorcycles should look like. 267 00:21:42,509 --> 00:21:44,170 That's what's so cool about this place. 268 00:21:44,219 --> 00:21:47,632 Anything goes and the rules are very loose. 269 00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:51,637 And that's what's so inspiring. People take whatever they find and 270 00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:55,311 they build a cool custom out of it. It's not all about money and 271 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,441 it's just a totally different thing. And people ride it here. Everyone is riding. 272 00:22:10,871 --> 00:22:14,785 The very cool thing about flat track racing is that you can't go 273 00:22:15,250 --> 00:22:19,835 to a factory and say 'can I have a dirt track bike' 'cause it doesn't exist. 274 00:22:20,047 --> 00:22:22,379 You have to build it and after that you can race. 275 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,713 So that's why the custom scene, building the bikes, and racing, 276 00:22:26,803 --> 00:22:30,171 that's why I think they are, be the same. 277 00:22:31,266 --> 00:22:33,928 It's like family but it's racing on a track. 278 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:39,264 There is no bad elbow, everything is fine. 279 00:22:39,566 --> 00:22:43,730 Everybody is a friend but on the track everybody is on the gas. 280 00:22:44,404 --> 00:22:46,145 I mean, what's the first thing you do when you're a kid? 281 00:22:46,239 --> 00:22:48,731 You either try and wheelie a bike, jump a bike or skid a bike. 282 00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:52,902 So if you're just going around skidding all day, what could be more fun? 283 00:22:58,502 --> 00:23:03,713 On one hand we have the industry, I think they were lost. It's got to a point 284 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,630 where it wasn't relevant any more, for the customers and in the other hand, 285 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,557 we have this custom scene which is full of talent and I think we speak 286 00:23:14,643 --> 00:23:16,805 the language, the new language they need to speak. 287 00:23:17,104 --> 00:23:22,850 It really is a case of the people have spoken. Something that's more accessible, 288 00:23:23,193 --> 00:23:26,106 more stylish, literally going down to the nearest cafe 289 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:28,688 and back is what people want. 290 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,529 The barrier to entry is so low in terms of 291 00:23:32,953 --> 00:23:35,615 cost which is perhaps where it all started. 292 00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:38,698 The social barrier to entry is lower. You 293 00:23:38,792 --> 00:23:41,454 don't need to feel scared turning up at a big 294 00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:44,162 biker event where everyone is going to expect you to do a wheelie. 295 00:23:44,464 --> 00:23:48,173 One of the things I like about motorcycles and always have liked about motorcycles 296 00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:54,298 is that they're very democratic. And yes you can buy expensive motorcycles, 297 00:23:54,516 --> 00:23:57,599 but you can buy a cheap motorcycle and you can have a go. 298 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,890 You know, you can pick a 125 on eBay for 400 quid, do your own little mods, 299 00:24:04,234 --> 00:24:10,230 and rock around town and be very proud of it. That's great. 300 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:16,615 What excites me personally and our team is young people just getting in 301 00:24:16,705 --> 00:24:18,821 and getting their hands dirty and making stuff. 302 00:24:19,374 --> 00:24:23,538 Creating their own personal expression and that becomes a snowball, right. 303 00:24:24,087 --> 00:24:27,330 There's only a couple of thousand people in the world who are customising 304 00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:32,464 motorcycles now. But their visibility and the number of people interested 305 00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:37,469 in seeing that, is huge so the ripple effect is where the big impact is. 306 00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:41,678 I think the blog was initially the biggest thing - Bike Shed, Bike EXIF, 307 00:24:41,771 --> 00:24:44,684 Pipeburn all those sorts of things. People then can really start following 308 00:24:44,774 --> 00:24:47,141 what other people are up to and there's normally a story 309 00:24:47,235 --> 00:24:50,728 with all the pictures and then when there was an opportunity for an event 310 00:24:50,780 --> 00:24:53,898 to come on, and people could see these bikes in the flesh. 311 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:58,369 Yeah my name's Thor and honestly, I don't know how I got here. 312 00:24:59,289 --> 00:25:06,002 Time travelling. No, I run The One Motorcycle Show, just a hobby 313 00:25:06,087 --> 00:25:09,296 gone wild. It just got away from me a little. 314 00:25:11,426 --> 00:25:15,385 It would be hard for me to say that I started a movement because 315 00:25:15,472 --> 00:25:19,557 it could have just been everybody was ready for something different. 316 00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:25,096 What I was doing was counter to everything that I'd experienced. 317 00:25:25,899 --> 00:25:30,268 I didn't want to be like anybody else. I didn't want to battle with other shows. 318 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:32,478 I didn't want to take their customers, I 319 00:25:32,572 --> 00:25:34,688 wanted to create something new and different. 320 00:25:35,492 --> 00:25:38,780 So everything that we've done, we've done it the hard way. 321 00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:46,622 Because it's counter, and make something that people say like 'wow, it's free'. 322 00:25:48,171 --> 00:25:51,664 Nothing's free any more. And then they say 'why don't you charge?' and then 323 00:25:51,758 --> 00:25:53,999 the right people will come and I say 'that defeats the purpose of 324 00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:57,462 having the show, to get everybody to come' and definitely the biggest part 325 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:00,765 of it is we look towards the sponsorships for 326 00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:03,050 covering the costs of putting on the show. 327 00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:08,393 Harley Davidson and BMW have been huge supporters of the show 328 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,524 and Icon since day one. 329 00:26:10,819 --> 00:26:14,278 There's dirt bikes and there's race bikes and there's just hardcore choppers 330 00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:21,115 all together in one show. To me that's the brilliant part 331 00:26:21,371 --> 00:26:25,456 of the One Show because as a motorcyclist, I do all those things 332 00:26:25,792 --> 00:26:28,875 and to be able to see all those communities come together 333 00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:32,796 at One Show is really quite remarkable. 334 00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:38,715 But the One Show for sure is still a place where your $1500 build 335 00:26:39,139 --> 00:26:41,972 commands respect for exactly what it is. 336 00:26:42,642 --> 00:26:46,806 Every builder that's got a bike in there, I can't promise them anything. 337 00:26:47,188 --> 00:26:51,273 They haven't paid any money to enter the bike,they've come from all over 338 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,977 the world. A lot of people spending a lot of money to get here and I can't 339 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,989 say that they're going to have world fame for it but you've just got to show up 340 00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:02,238 and see what happens. Be part of it. 341 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:06,865 The one thing about the One Show is that it's not a single bike show. 342 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:11,915 It's putting the custom umbrella over ever sort of custom 343 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:15,964 and by casting that big net, you basically put a big spotlight up to anybody 344 00:27:16,051 --> 00:27:19,294 that was doing a custom bike. Got everyone's attention to it and that's 345 00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:20,548 what has allowed it to grow. 346 00:27:22,098 --> 00:27:26,638 We have put on a few races and many of the races for fun. 347 00:27:26,936 --> 00:27:32,682 It's just part of human nature to like race so the only thing that will 348 00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:39,694 kind of sustain itself for a long time is racing and then I clearly 349 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:44,952 saw the whole picture from the person who's never raced to the future of racing. 350 00:27:46,289 --> 00:27:51,375 Taking the race crowd and putting them in a setting like this is kind of interesting 351 00:27:51,419 --> 00:27:57,335 and the taking the guys that know about choppers and bring them down the races 352 00:27:58,176 --> 00:28:04,593 and the two work together. Two wheels and a motor and it's the same thing. 353 00:28:11,231 --> 00:28:14,519 There wasn't, I mean in '08 I think Facebook was around but there 354 00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:19,274 really wasn't a lot of digital media or social media starting out. 355 00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:22,606 When it started to pick up, we jumped on right away. 356 00:28:22,992 --> 00:28:26,701 It was actually the first guy I hired, a guy that was a photographer that 357 00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:30,907 took care of our social media. That, for most people, is our marketing. 358 00:28:31,126 --> 00:28:36,462 That's the window that the world sees into Analog Motorcycles. 359 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,425 You can build something, put it online and 270,000 people reached, boom. 360 00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:44,716 And that's amazing. Years ago you couldn't do something like that. 361 00:28:44,806 --> 00:28:47,389 You needed a TV show, you needed to be in 362 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,888 magazines for years to have people see your work. 363 00:28:51,438 --> 00:28:56,433 When I got into it, two magazines were coming out once a month 364 00:28:56,526 --> 00:29:01,020 with 3 or 4 bike features in it and it's almost like they delegated what 365 00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:04,232 was cool and what was not. They were deciding what was 366 00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:08,323 the motorcycle industry custom-wise. And now what we're seeing is 367 00:29:08,788 --> 00:29:10,870 we're in control of the whole thing really. 368 00:29:11,374 --> 00:29:14,833 You know, now anybody who put their name out there, people can see it. 369 00:29:15,837 --> 00:29:18,750 And if you do good work, people want to see it so they start following you 370 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,208 and shit. It's not the guy with the huge name who always has the upper hand. 371 00:29:22,385 --> 00:29:27,004 We as consumers of this information, consumers of this content, are getting 372 00:29:27,098 --> 00:29:33,390 things instantly. You can see what I made 20 minutes ago and I can walk you around 373 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,270 it live on the internet. I don't know if something's lost or something's gained. 374 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,193 It goes one way or another, 10 minutes later you've got to do something new. 375 00:29:43,031 --> 00:29:49,869 The longevity of custom bikes online can be surprisingly short. 24 / 48 hours. 376 00:29:50,288 --> 00:29:55,749 For something that could've taken a year to build, that's a really short life. 377 00:29:56,002 --> 00:30:01,372 OK I saw that yesterday, what's out there today? And that's 3 years 378 00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:05,004 of a man's life you looked at yesterday. What do you mean what have you got now? 379 00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:10,305 People come out and they're Instagram, they're Insta-famous. They get all this 380 00:30:10,391 --> 00:30:14,976 going and then the business comes after the fame, you know what I mean? 381 00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:21,939 I think we need to be careful and not let the internet or the social media 382 00:30:22,570 --> 00:30:27,030 kind of start drowning out the camaraderie and the coolness 383 00:30:27,116 --> 00:30:29,574 of what the culture actually is. 384 00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:33,532 So it's so easy to criticise when you do nothing. Actually the people who make 385 00:30:34,123 --> 00:30:38,538 never criticise. They respect the fact that you made. The haters will be haters forever. 386 00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:42,333 We don't give a fuck. We know who we are, where we come from, where we want to go. 387 00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:48,343 Yeah we get builders who are clearly at their wits end and they've been working 388 00:30:48,429 --> 00:30:53,219 their arses off for like, 12 months on a bike and you'll get some peanut gallery 389 00:30:53,893 --> 00:31:01,482 blow hard who will just leave a really pithy one sentence remark 390 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,773 and yeah, builders will crumble at that. 391 00:31:05,071 --> 00:31:08,530 And they like nothing better than getting you to engage them 392 00:31:09,284 --> 00:31:11,867 ‘cause no matter what, you're going to come out looking like an asshole. 393 00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:17,080 There's been so many times I've wanted to just go right for the jugular and 394 00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:20,284 be like, 'listen it might have been a bad weld but your girlfriend's fat'. 395 00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:24,706 You know, 'l checked out your page' and I've been dying to say that for so long, 396 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,882 something like that. But at the end of the day, I look around me and 397 00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:31,470 I get to do this for a living so if I'm going to have the occasional people online 398 00:31:31,931 --> 00:31:34,764 telling me that I'm an idiot and I can't weld, and I suck at 399 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:36,759 building motorcycles, I can live with that. 400 00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:41,768 If you do say why you don't like it, give the alternative, like it could be this 401 00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:45,897 but criticism, not just being negative because you're not really helping 402 00:31:45,987 --> 00:31:50,697 by being negative. But yeah, whatever. People are mean. 403 00:31:52,035 --> 00:31:56,529 I've had death threats. There was one guy who emailed, 'you fucking faggot, 404 00:31:56,873 --> 00:31:58,705 will you stop showing these fucking gay bikes, 405 00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:01,416 I'm going to come ‘round to your fucking house and kill you'. 406 00:32:01,711 --> 00:32:07,127 My biggest problem is people on Instagram don't do anything other than Instagram. 407 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,751 They'll look at it and they won't even read the text that says 408 00:32:11,012 --> 00:32:14,004 the thing they're asking. They'll just post up the question. 409 00:32:14,557 --> 00:32:18,596 ‘What bike is that?' It says right there, it's a BMW R100. 410 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:20,636 Like, it's not that hard! 411 00:32:23,274 --> 00:32:28,690 The American magazine Cycle World, they do events marketing so the big 412 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:32,819 opportunity they see is running motorcycle shows. People paying 413 00:32:32,909 --> 00:32:37,369 $10/$20 to get though the door in a show. And that's why people like Revival 414 00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:41,456 who are really smart because they figured that out, and the Bike Shed as well 415 00:32:42,001 --> 00:32:46,165 so the event really is a gold mine. 416 00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:51,375 I'm Vikki van Someren, the queen of fucking everything and I run the Bike Shed 417 00:32:51,469 --> 00:32:54,131 for London, Paris, Milan and the rest of the world. 418 00:32:56,391 --> 00:33:00,305 We were sat in a pub and we were about to go to a bike show and 419 00:33:00,395 --> 00:33:04,480 we were all having that Carlsberg moment when you sit there and say, you know, 420 00:33:04,607 --> 00:33:08,817 what if we put on a show? And a week later, my husband booked a venue 421 00:33:09,904 --> 00:33:16,492 I think because, as bikers, we were tired of the same old trade format. 422 00:33:16,911 --> 00:33:21,747 You know, the rubbish food, the Lycra girls and we wanted something that was 423 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:25,371 more reflective of us as individuals. You know, when you look around 424 00:33:25,420 --> 00:33:29,209 this is everybody's individual style through their motorcycle. 425 00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:36,170 So Bike Shed One was a punt, it was an idea. We ran the show for free, 426 00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:42,100 we had two arches in Shoreditch and 70 bikes if I remember correctly. 427 00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:48,732 It was very much a pop-up, amateur vibe to it. But 3,000 people turned up. 428 00:33:48,985 --> 00:33:54,401 That summer of 2012, the whole scene suddenly found its voice 429 00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:58,154 and started to feel like something tangible. We were trying to do something 430 00:33:58,244 --> 00:34:02,238 that was the opposite of a trade fair. It needed to be a destination, 431 00:34:02,331 --> 00:34:05,995 a place worth going. It needed to be about the creative side of motorcycle culture. 432 00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:10,833 There's people come here to check out the latest build from XYZ builder, 433 00:34:10,923 --> 00:34:16,293 but there's a lot of people come here just to gain inspiration and see what someone 434 00:34:16,387 --> 00:34:19,175 else did in their shed or garage or workshop and think well I can 435 00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:22,508 go away and I'm going to do that myself and maybe come back next year 436 00:34:22,602 --> 00:34:26,596 and enter my bike into a show. Or people just want to come and have a look at 437 00:34:27,023 --> 00:34:31,768 beautiful things, beautiful engineering and I think here you've got it in spades. 438 00:34:32,403 --> 00:34:37,364 I think this is far more about style. There's decent food, there's decent 439 00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:40,943 drink, things to look at. It's a nice experience. 440 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:44,450 In fact, you'd have a nice experience here even if you weren't a biker. 441 00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,829 It's really important for us. It's important because 442 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,414 it's the first contact point with our customer, this kind of customer. 443 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:57,342 Because we can learn, we can talk with these people you know 444 00:34:57,428 --> 00:35:00,966 and we can go back in the office with more and more ideas 445 00:35:01,224 --> 00:35:02,589 of what to do in the future. 446 00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:06,009 We only do the show so people can come and see what we do and 447 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,893 when they see the finish on the bikes, that's when the builds start to come in. 448 00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:13,024 We sold six bikes in six days. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday 449 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:17,730 then one on the following Monday. £16,500 a piece so yeah they saw 450 00:35:17,824 --> 00:35:21,488 our work at a show, they come and have a look at what we do, and that's it. 451 00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:28,370 Events like this allow people to take innovative leaps because they just feed 452 00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:32,043 off each other. Because as soon as somebody does something really innovative, 453 00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:37,040 and everyone sees it, the whole movement steps forward. 454 00:35:38,302 --> 00:35:43,092 We got a project with Stuart Garner, CEO at Norton and I was up there one day 455 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:47,305 talking bikes with him, and just chewing the fat really and having a laugh 456 00:35:47,395 --> 00:35:53,482 and I said, 'l'd really like to build a bike' and his term, without swearing, was 457 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:55,150 'OK f*** off and do it'. 458 00:35:56,445 --> 00:36:00,313 It's a Norton Commando 961 stock road bike, that's the base bike 459 00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:04,575 and it's been quite modified. You're always a little bit nervous when 460 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:07,738 you come up with a design for a bike and you build something, you know, 461 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:11,041 you've invested a lot of time and money and you want people to love it. 462 00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:17,126 It's kind of a re-creation of a world famous flat track bike from the 70s 463 00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:22,093 designed by Ron Woods who kind of revolutionised flat track racing. 464 00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:31,975 We have all this technology now, we have amazing motorcycles, 465 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:36,141 amazing electronics, difficult to crash, 466 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:39,110 reliable, everything you could want really. 467 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,438 You know, the benefit to progress and civilisation 468 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:44,111 and we're really saying ‘no, we don't want that.' 469 00:36:44,952 --> 00:36:49,037 There are entirely too many people in my opinion, that are completely 470 00:36:49,123 --> 00:36:52,866 removed from how the things are made that they own. 471 00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:56,082 And I wasn't raised that way. I was raised in a home where 472 00:36:56,172 --> 00:37:00,632 we typically fixed what broke. We didn't hire a repair man 473 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,125 when the dishwasher went down. 474 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,963 So much of the physical world these days just exists 475 00:37:06,057 --> 00:37:09,516 and we don't think about that at all. Where in reality, every single thing 476 00:37:09,602 --> 00:37:12,890 that exists, had to be created. It had to be put together. 477 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:15,017 Somebody made this thing. 478 00:37:15,149 --> 00:37:19,734 There's this kind of re-appropriation of the making process and therefore 479 00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:22,020 I assume, I presume the respect of the makers. 480 00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:26,028 A few years ago, there was a small amount of people 481 00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:29,281 a small demographic that were interested in craftsmanship 482 00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:32,660 or the hand made thing. All of a sudden, there's a lot more 483 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:35,617 people interested in the sort of things that I do. 484 00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:38,875 Yeah everybody that I've ever learned anything from 485 00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:46,303 were 50... 60... 70... 80 years old. It takes a certain amount of money 486 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:53,307 and quality and dedication that I have to have in order to put 487 00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:56,354 my company stamp on it. It's a little sculpture 488 00:37:56,816 --> 00:38:02,983 by the time I'm done and I love that but if somebody just wants me to 489 00:38:03,072 --> 00:38:06,110 put some shit ball logo on there, I'm not going to do it. 490 00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:09,276 And so much effort and time learning how to do this, 491 00:38:10,246 --> 00:38:12,533 I'm not just going to throw it away on some pile of shit. 492 00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:16,411 If you start off with shit, it's just going to be a fancy piece of shit 493 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:17,370 in the end. 494 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,208 There's an element of taking the power back by doing it 495 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,381 yourself, doing it on a budget, not being given what the big 496 00:38:23,467 --> 00:38:24,832 companies are selling you. 497 00:38:25,469 --> 00:38:28,757 The kind of people I'm getting coming to me are guys who are 498 00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:32,512 tech guys who just want to do something. They just want to make something. 499 00:38:32,977 --> 00:38:36,686 And they don't get that from their job or from daily life or whatever so 500 00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:40,140 they do it on a bike... and I can see there's tonnes of people like that. 501 00:38:41,402 --> 00:38:45,361 The feeling you get when you've built something or even had a go 502 00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:48,611 at building it, even if you buy parts or if you bolt on a part 503 00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:50,616 you bought, there's still satisfaction in that. 504 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,330 It's just nice to be given one small problem that might take 505 00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:59,455 a while to overcome and if you overcome that, you're good for the day. 506 00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:02,955 And it's even bigger, this feeling, when you build it by yourself 507 00:39:03,049 --> 00:39:06,963 because you know it by heart. It's not just an object, it's a living object. 508 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,928 I've followed everything on YouTube and I've got my manual, 509 00:39:10,014 --> 00:39:13,223 I know exactly what I'm doing. My caliper is perfect. 510 00:39:13,642 --> 00:39:17,306 And I get out on the A12, have to stop and I go smack into the back of a car. 511 00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:20,930 The older and rarer the bike, the more I'm intrigued. 512 00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:25,818 Figuring out the sources, there's these old brown papers that have been crumpled 513 00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:27,942 up for years that are in the back of a manual. 514 00:39:28,407 --> 00:39:31,320 You know, I just geek out on it. I really love it. 515 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:36,534 Any of the old bikes, they just feel different. You can hear them, 516 00:39:36,707 --> 00:39:40,166 you can feel the motor, it just feels like you're part of it. 517 00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:42,205 Almost like you're on a trip with a good friend. 518 00:39:42,296 --> 00:39:45,163 Like it doesn't matter, even if they're being a pain in the ass 519 00:39:45,257 --> 00:39:48,170 that day you still know you'd rather be on the trip with them. 520 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,381 Old bikes you can fix with two wrenches on the side of the road 521 00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:54,055 and go on about your business. New bikes you've got to call 522 00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,718 somebody so they can put a computer box in there, you know. 523 00:39:58,062 --> 00:40:00,804 People talk about old bikes like they're unreliable you know, 524 00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:03,265 but it's like 'no, I can fix it' and keep going. 525 00:40:03,859 --> 00:40:07,898 You definitely have to educate your customer on the reality of 526 00:40:07,988 --> 00:40:11,106 what they're asking for. They want something, they go into their garage, 527 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,862 and they push a button and it starts every time and it's low 528 00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:18,993 maintenance. Is it going to be a world war 2 era knucklehead? No. 529 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:21,912 If you're going to spend £20k customising a bike, 530 00:40:22,837 --> 00:40:25,044 do you want it to be worth £20k at the end? 531 00:40:25,464 --> 00:40:29,799 Because if so, you need to start with a Ducati or a Harley 532 00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:33,219 or something else that's got a bit of quality about it that's 533 00:40:33,305 --> 00:40:37,390 got some perceived value because we know from experience 534 00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:39,888 that you can spend as much as you want but when you come to sell a bike, 535 00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:43,062 If it's a CX500, they'll only pay what a CX500's worth 536 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:46,141 and their argument will be, but it's a CX500. 537 00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:50,232 So we start always on older bikes, from the inside out. 538 00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:53,072 On newer bikes, we can just go from the outside in. 539 00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:54,695 We don't need to take them totally apart. 540 00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:20,550 It's the amount of bikes I've seen that have got Ohlins shocks and this and that 541 00:41:20,644 --> 00:41:24,387 and they've spent thousands of pounds putting all this race 542 00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:29,898 kit on a 750, 35 year old bike that's done 150... 543 00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:33,442 I mean, what the fuck is the point in that? Know what I mean? 544 00:41:33,782 --> 00:41:34,772 What's the point? 545 00:41:34,909 --> 00:41:38,868 A lot of builders I speak to will say to me, 'l won't work on old bikes any more' 546 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:44,367 They spend the first 100 hours of a build just stripping a bike and 547 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:47,669 re-finishing it and re-making it. All they've done is restore a bike 548 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,918 and they've spent half the budget and then they've got to spend 549 00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:52,798 the same money again to customise it. 550 00:41:53,636 --> 00:41:56,754 I think I prefer modern bikes because of the performance 551 00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:01,641 I love big tyres, big brakes, all the race shit actually 552 00:42:02,061 --> 00:42:05,679 It's crazy to drive that kind of bike because you're flying. 553 00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:10,058 You can't really get in and customise new stuff as 554 00:42:10,152 --> 00:42:13,736 much as you can old stuff. That's the thing, I've been 555 00:42:13,781 --> 00:42:18,571 doing this 2017 model, it's like I can't re-wire that thing. 556 00:42:19,662 --> 00:42:21,994 You've got to be an electrical engineer to re-wire that thing and 557 00:42:22,081 --> 00:42:23,742 even then you're going to have some problems, you know. 558 00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:28,660 You can't really do anything with the injections stuff that... 559 00:42:29,672 --> 00:42:36,044 without computer that only the dealership is allowed to have. 560 00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:40,138 I've also ridden some motorcycles that have been very de-clawed by technology. 561 00:42:40,307 --> 00:42:42,765 You know, you get on a bike and all of a sudden you can't do a burn out, 562 00:42:42,851 --> 00:42:44,717 you can't ride a wheelie, you can't skid the rear break. 563 00:42:44,853 --> 00:42:47,936 I don't even want to ride it. I don't even care if it makes 200 horse power. 564 00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:51,933 If you're stuck with a new bike and you can't change anything 565 00:42:52,027 --> 00:42:54,359 because the computer packs up and goes into shutdown 566 00:42:54,446 --> 00:42:57,108 because it senses a new headlight being put on 567 00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:00,032 well the whole industry is in trouble. 568 00:43:00,536 --> 00:43:03,119 When people come up and and say a bike is like, OK, that's the budget 569 00:43:03,497 --> 00:43:06,785 but I can go buy a new bike for that price. Yeah.. yes.. 570 00:43:06,917 --> 00:43:12,083 I can get a brand new one for that. Yeah. Maybe that's what already happened 571 00:43:12,172 --> 00:43:17,713 with the customers. They're buying new bikes. When you get new bikes that look 572 00:43:17,803 --> 00:43:20,795 like custom bikes if you don't know the difference. 573 00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:23,089 It gives them a soft landing into the scene. 574 00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:26,972 People see a bike, they see the individualism of the bike 575 00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:30,855 probably thinking, oh that's awesome, I'm never able to build that myself 576 00:43:31,358 --> 00:43:34,020 and in the past that means this scene's not for you. 577 00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:37,900 But right now if you see new bikes coming out from manufacturers that 578 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:41,483 have the same air to them as the bikes in this scene. 579 00:43:57,468 --> 00:44:01,587 Yeah you come to a show like this, and there's so much stuff 580 00:44:01,889 --> 00:44:06,053 but it all comes down to the crowd. It doesn't matter what you like in 581 00:44:06,101 --> 00:44:10,937 motorcycles, or don't like, for me it's all about the craftsmanship 582 00:44:11,065 --> 00:44:14,399 and the work and just the attitude and the style 583 00:44:14,485 --> 00:44:17,193 and the bike doesn't have to be a trailer queen to be a winner. 584 00:44:17,529 --> 00:44:22,820 Yeah I think one of the good things about these shows is most of us 585 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,117 especially those of us that live in the colder climates, 586 00:44:25,204 --> 00:44:28,196 it's just like we're in our own little world in our shop 587 00:44:28,832 --> 00:44:32,996 just working away, doing all this. I found over the years, my social 588 00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:36,000 life has become less and less. I think that's the good thing 589 00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:38,707 about these shows, that we come for the social aspect 590 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,219 of the business. When you bring it out it's like, 'Aw, where have you been 591 00:44:43,305 --> 00:44:45,717 for all these months?" Well I was doing this. 592 00:44:46,266 --> 00:44:50,180 That something that a show like this, a hand built show, proves is 593 00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:54,556 you can take any kind of bike and build something really cool. 594 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:59,444 You can go outside the box no matter what. You don't have to have 595 00:44:59,780 --> 00:45:01,646 a knucklehead to build a cool bike. 596 00:45:02,241 --> 00:45:05,654 We would go to motorcycles shows and it would always be the same fucking thing. 597 00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:10,868 There was some old curmudgeon asshole, or 400 of them, 598 00:45:11,291 --> 00:45:13,202 that would treat you like you wouldn't know shit 599 00:45:13,627 --> 00:45:15,493 because you didn't have any grey hair or facial hair, 600 00:45:16,255 --> 00:45:18,917 and it was always like you were not, you were automatically 601 00:45:19,007 --> 00:45:20,918 excluded from their fucking club. 602 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:26,758 It was called the Handbuilt Motorcycle Show because these are people 603 00:45:26,849 --> 00:45:30,467 like us with limited resources and they're building something with their hands 604 00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:35,681 and learning that that actually has value. Let's create something 605 00:45:35,774 --> 00:45:39,392 that we try our best to allow it to be instead of 606 00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:42,061 determining what it should be. Does that make sense? 607 00:45:42,531 --> 00:45:45,068 What's been the most satisfying part of that, in doing 608 00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:47,442 what we're doing with the event and all this other stuff, 609 00:45:47,536 --> 00:45:49,868 is seeing other people's personal discovery. 610 00:45:50,873 --> 00:45:53,831 There are multiple people that have come to this little show 611 00:45:53,917 --> 00:45:57,330 we do which was just an excuse to bring together a bunch of guys 612 00:45:57,379 --> 00:46:02,374 that we respected who've never even thought of a motorcycle but they 613 00:46:02,468 --> 00:46:05,381 came, they looked and they went 'vou know what, maybe they're right 614 00:46:05,471 --> 00:46:09,089 maybe I can do this' and now there were multiple bikes in the show 615 00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:13,385 this year that were built because they went to the first show. 616 00:46:13,687 --> 00:46:17,351 The fact that the Wall of Death is there is not just an accident. 617 00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:21,184 That's not just like 'oh this might be kind of cool'. No that was a 618 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,486 conscious thought of... we want to find a way to get people that don't ride 619 00:46:26,575 --> 00:46:30,364 to have the visceral experience of what it's like to ride somehow. 620 00:46:30,454 --> 00:46:33,617 Just to give them some small taste of it. To get up close and 621 00:46:33,707 --> 00:46:35,618 personal with functioning bikes. 622 00:46:52,726 --> 00:46:56,720 Before, it was niche and it was sub-culture, and it was a little bit 623 00:46:56,814 --> 00:47:00,182 more people in the know, but social media has just attracted 624 00:47:00,651 --> 00:47:03,894 a bigger volume and that means you do see more couples and 625 00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:06,854 more young people and more people from just outside the scene 626 00:47:06,949 --> 00:47:10,283 on the fringes. If we don't attract new people into the it and make 627 00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,781 them passionate about it, motorcycles won't exist in 628 00:47:12,871 --> 00:47:15,329 20 years time. They'll be legislated out existence. 629 00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:17,786 Yeah we need more people with energy, we need more doers 630 00:47:17,876 --> 00:47:20,208 and it's the young people who are kind of coming in 631 00:47:20,295 --> 00:47:22,582 from a new angle. They haven't been influenced in the past and 632 00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:26,166 they're pushing it in new directions and that's what 633 00:47:26,301 --> 00:47:28,008 any progressive culture needs. 634 00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:32,088 All production, all manufacturing, the ability to do things with your hands 635 00:47:32,140 --> 00:47:36,259 is largely exited, it's gone. We outsource everything. 636 00:47:36,812 --> 00:47:39,270 And it's really... I don't think anyone expected it but it's 637 00:47:39,356 --> 00:47:42,314 really our generation that like 'wait a minute, our dads, our 638 00:47:42,401 --> 00:47:45,644 grandparents used to do this. If they could do it, we can definitely do it.' 639 00:47:46,113 --> 00:47:49,697 I'm so sick of these people who have been in the business for a long time 640 00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:51,778 getting pissed off with these newcomers. 641 00:47:52,035 --> 00:47:55,824 It's like, at some point you were a newcomer. They're like, who cares. 642 00:47:56,164 --> 00:47:59,657 Well five years ago they were riding skateboards. Who gives a fuck? 643 00:48:00,210 --> 00:48:01,792 Now they're riding a motorcycle. Good. 644 00:48:02,004 --> 00:48:06,043 There is a younger demographic that is interested in motorcycling 645 00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:10,092 and custom motorcycles and choppers and cafes and it's 646 00:48:10,178 --> 00:48:12,840 affordable and anybody can still do it. 647 00:48:13,015 --> 00:48:16,053 You've got kids of 22 right the way through to people who are 62. 648 00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:18,725 If they've only got £2k, they can get into this. 649 00:48:19,021 --> 00:48:20,887 At the other end of the extreme, if you want to got to one of the 650 00:48:20,939 --> 00:48:26,355 well-known makers, put down £18k/£22k, you can do that as well. 651 00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:29,520 And again, like buying it, you can buy a 125 and make it cool. 652 00:48:29,656 --> 00:48:33,115 It's just cheap and affordable and if you feel cool riding a 125 653 00:48:33,201 --> 00:48:35,568 you've pimped out, that's rad. 654 00:48:35,954 --> 00:48:40,539 And now there's this new breath of air, there's a fresh interest 655 00:48:40,834 --> 00:48:43,667 in the younger demographic and I think it's inspiring. 656 00:48:44,171 --> 00:48:46,253 If you look at the custom scene, it's much much younger 657 00:48:46,673 --> 00:48:50,041 which is gold dust for the manufacturers. Instead of selling 658 00:48:50,385 --> 00:48:55,130 motorcycles to retired dentists, who are going to be dead in 10 years time, 659 00:48:55,766 --> 00:49:00,727 you've got somebody who has a 30 year buying life cycle. 660 00:49:01,146 --> 00:49:05,105 It's really important to make sure that younger people 661 00:49:05,192 --> 00:49:08,651 getting into the scene are made to feel welcome. 662 00:49:08,904 --> 00:49:13,523 It's not going to grow from the same old guys building 663 00:49:13,617 --> 00:49:16,325 the same old stuff. It's going to grow from someone being 664 00:49:16,411 --> 00:49:19,278 included, having different ideas, bringing something new to it 665 00:49:19,665 --> 00:49:21,247 that's going to help keep it going. 666 00:49:21,708 --> 00:49:24,541 I'll be completely honest with you, the very first time I came here, 667 00:49:25,212 --> 00:49:29,297 I said, 'well we'll go but it looks like one of those hipster things.' 668 00:49:29,549 --> 00:49:34,089 And we showed up and I'm like, ‘those guys have their jeans rolled up. 669 00:49:34,179 --> 00:49:38,047 This is one of those hipster things'. By the end of the weekend, I said 670 00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:40,132 you know, these guys are awesome. 671 00:49:40,477 --> 00:49:45,187 Ever since we started Blitz with Hugo, I never met so many interesting 672 00:49:45,482 --> 00:49:47,723 and interested persons in my life. 673 00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:51,485 All you need to do to belong is just want to belong and 674 00:49:51,571 --> 00:49:54,984 try to bring something on the table but try to work always 675 00:49:55,242 --> 00:49:59,236 with a giving sense, not like try to leave an imprint. 676 00:49:59,997 --> 00:50:04,992 This place has always, always been not about an individual person. 677 00:50:06,378 --> 00:50:08,369 It's always been about a group of people. 678 00:50:08,755 --> 00:50:12,749 And if we were building a bike, whoever turned up that day 679 00:50:13,218 --> 00:50:14,333 would work on that bike. 680 00:50:41,830 --> 00:50:45,949 Petrol heads, you can't help it. Motorcycles are in the blood I'm afraid. 681 00:50:47,085 --> 00:50:50,373 I came last year, had an amazing time, so many bikes. 682 00:50:50,756 --> 00:50:54,249 So many really nice people and yeah, it's a must do. 683 00:50:54,676 --> 00:50:57,839 Well I think the racing here, I think that's what sets this one off. 684 00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:00,137 The fact that people are getting to get their bikes out and 685 00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:04,096 come out, fire 'em up, line up, smell the smoke, 686 00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:07,311 see the tyres spinning, see the mud, it's just brilliant really. 687 00:51:07,898 --> 00:51:11,562 My name is Radical Edwards of Radical Edwards Performance. 688 00:51:11,777 --> 00:51:15,736 I'm here to race. I'm just here for general carrying on and fun and games 689 00:51:15,781 --> 00:51:17,237 and other sorts of malarkey. 690 00:51:19,409 --> 00:51:24,870 What's different about the Malle Mile, it's not too serious, it's a lot of fun, 691 00:51:26,041 --> 00:51:30,501 it's open to anybody, that just wants to bring their bike 692 00:51:30,629 --> 00:51:34,293 and chuck it down the track and it actually goes back to the grass roots 693 00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:40,379 of motorbike racing. That's really where the custom bike scene started. 694 00:51:41,264 --> 00:51:43,596 It's people taking their bike that they ride every day, 695 00:51:43,725 --> 00:51:47,593 and taking bits off it to make it go faster, race it down the road. 696 00:52:02,452 --> 00:52:06,616 What's the Trip Out? A lot of people get the wrong impression 697 00:52:06,706 --> 00:52:08,492 of it 'cause they think it's a chopper show. 698 00:52:09,292 --> 00:52:13,661 Yes it is a chopper show but it's also a culture show. 699 00:52:13,755 --> 00:52:16,918 You get to see good bikes, be with your good friends, 700 00:52:17,342 --> 00:52:21,552 giving people a sense of freedom, a bit of hope I suppose. 701 00:52:22,597 --> 00:52:26,215 A lot of people go and they've got this wannabe hard man image. 702 00:52:27,310 --> 00:52:30,052 Fuck all that shit mate. It's no good, is it? 703 00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:33,185 Sometimes you want to let your hair down and just dance to the Bee Gees. 704 00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:37,727 The Trip Out's great although it's a massive headache 705 00:52:38,113 --> 00:52:40,229 and I will say that on camera. It's a bigger headache than 706 00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:45,409 any of you can imagine. Logistical stuff, councils, 707 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:52,451 noise police, health and safety, fire risks, and generally 708 00:52:53,503 --> 00:52:55,790 the man not wanting you to have a good party, innit. 709 00:52:56,173 --> 00:53:00,508 Yeah the chopper scene at the Trip Out is... this is what people would have done 710 00:53:00,594 --> 00:53:04,303 in the 60s and 70s. They had the chops and during the whole era 711 00:53:04,389 --> 00:53:07,552 of build what you've got and people were doing Triumphs, 712 00:53:07,642 --> 00:53:10,555 they were doing Harleys, whatever they could get hold of. 713 00:53:10,896 --> 00:53:12,978 That's what you see here. It's not all about the shine 714 00:53:13,064 --> 00:53:15,431 and the sheen, it's about what gets you down the road 715 00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:18,187 so everything's purpose built and that's what I like about it. 716 00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:24,273 Well we bought a mini-bike and we were sitting there not 717 00:53:24,367 --> 00:53:26,950 doing anything on it, eating breakfast, and we said yeah 718 00:53:27,037 --> 00:53:28,948 we should build a mini-bike, got a picture up like a Taco, 719 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:32,248 60s mini-bike, 3-speed with reverse, so 4-speed I suppose, 720 00:53:32,792 --> 00:53:37,411 wheel barrow wheels, with a CG125 rear sprocket. 721 00:53:37,881 --> 00:53:40,794 Got a show field pass, and we're going to try and do the 722 00:53:40,884 --> 00:53:43,922 chop slalom if it's still on. It's a bit wet so the tyre 723 00:53:44,012 --> 00:53:45,628 compound's not really ideal on it. 724 00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:48,089 But if we can enter it, we will. 725 00:53:50,143 --> 00:53:56,185 Everybody wants to come to Dirtquake. It's the coolest go fast event. 726 00:53:56,733 --> 00:53:59,566 I've heard all sorts of whacky and weird rumours about it all 727 00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:01,064 but I'm here now and yeah, looking forward to it. 728 00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,149 I'm weird and whacky so why not get involved? 729 00:54:07,410 --> 00:54:10,493 It's a dirt track race mainly for people who may not have 730 00:54:10,580 --> 00:54:12,491 raced dirt track before, to give them a taste. 731 00:54:12,999 --> 00:54:16,333 It's not professional racers, it's amateurs and some of them 732 00:54:16,419 --> 00:54:19,411 are very amateur and some of the amateurs are quite professional 733 00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:25,127 but no-one's here for the money, no-one really cares who wins or loses, 734 00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:29,134 the spectators don't know who wins or loses. 735 00:54:29,683 --> 00:54:32,596 The only guy who cares who wins is the guy who won 736 00:54:33,353 --> 00:54:36,311 and the guy who came second, he would have liked to win. 737 00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:39,936 No-one else cares. You don't need a race bike, 738 00:54:40,485 --> 00:54:42,772 you don't need any experience. You turn up and race. 739 00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:46,776 It's just something a bit different, it's not racing showroom motorbikes 740 00:54:46,866 --> 00:54:49,153 that are all the bloody same, that all make the same noise. 741 00:54:50,161 --> 00:54:53,074 It's a celebration of happiness first of all and I think, 742 00:54:53,206 --> 00:54:56,164 happiness on two wheels so it's a way to introduce people and 743 00:54:56,584 --> 00:55:00,873 tell them that that's fun, it's not that dangerous, it's friendly, 744 00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:05,508 and you don't need to have a $30k bike to have fun. 745 00:55:06,011 --> 00:55:10,130 So this bike my friends bought, oh look it's a number 1. 746 00:55:10,473 --> 00:55:16,515 My friends bought this on eBay for £11 and handed it to me and 747 00:55:16,604 --> 00:55:18,766 were like 'you wanna race it?' and I'm like 'sure'. 748 00:55:19,232 --> 00:55:24,568 At Dirtquake, I saw a lot of messing around but not a lot 749 00:55:24,654 --> 00:55:27,863 of bad crashes 'cause I think it's a great start from somebody 750 00:55:27,949 --> 00:55:30,941 who wants to get into flat track. Go to Dirtquake, you can take any bike. 751 00:55:32,454 --> 00:55:35,992 You can go back to work on Monday and say 752 00:55:37,167 --> 00:55:39,750 'l raced my motorbike this weekend' and you really raced it. 753 00:55:39,961 --> 00:55:45,297 I like being able to tell people I'm a motorcycle racer. Whatever my results are. 754 00:55:45,550 --> 00:55:48,542 When I first started riding motorbikes, there were no other women. 755 00:55:48,595 --> 00:55:51,007 I didn't know anybody that rode a motorbike that was another woman. 756 00:55:51,264 --> 00:55:53,676 There is no getting around the fact that it was boys club 757 00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:57,847 and the women who had been riding 20 years before me, 758 00:55:58,021 --> 00:55:59,682 they experienced it ten fold. 759 00:56:00,023 --> 00:56:06,065 Yeah very sexist, misogynist, very... the club culture of like... 760 00:56:07,238 --> 00:56:11,983 women are property and they never ride, they're never part of anything, 761 00:56:12,077 --> 00:56:16,662 they don't own anything. It's horrendous actually. 762 00:56:16,956 --> 00:56:20,119 Women still get a hard time, you know, as a girl 763 00:56:20,251 --> 00:56:22,959 pulls up on a bike, it's a big bike, guys are like 764 00:56:23,046 --> 00:56:25,583 'oh is she going to drop it?' but you know what, I think 765 00:56:25,673 --> 00:56:29,291 this scene in particular is supportive of women riders. 766 00:56:29,844 --> 00:56:33,303 The coolest thing I've noticed about this show in particular is 767 00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:35,848 there's more female bike builders here as well. 768 00:56:35,934 --> 00:56:39,552 So it's not just riders and girls like us that make clothes 769 00:56:39,646 --> 00:56:42,013 but girls that are wrenching and building their own bikes 770 00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:44,849 and showing them. And that's really inspiring to me. 771 00:56:44,984 --> 00:56:48,147 People don't really care too much about my gender. 772 00:56:48,238 --> 00:56:52,698 They care more about the product, but for me, my gender, I've had 773 00:56:52,784 --> 00:56:55,902 a very lucky experience and I know a lot of women who have not. 774 00:56:56,579 --> 00:57:00,618 And I empathise with that and I also am trying to help change that 775 00:57:00,708 --> 00:57:03,370 the way that they're trying to change it and men are following suit. 776 00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:09,541 Men are participating in this social change just as hard as 777 00:57:09,634 --> 00:57:11,545 the women are. I feel like they're helping because 778 00:57:11,636 --> 00:57:12,876 they realise that it's important. 779 00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:17,723 It's a far more inclusive market. It's far more, both female friendly 780 00:57:17,809 --> 00:57:20,050 and I think to a certain extent, family friendly. 781 00:57:20,812 --> 00:57:24,055 And what's amazing is that the bike media, the 782 00:57:24,149 --> 00:57:26,766 traditional bike media, doesn't seem to have noticed. 783 00:57:27,193 --> 00:57:31,357 I see way more women on the road, I see more riding 784 00:57:31,448 --> 00:57:36,113 groups pop up and I see a lot on social media which is great 785 00:57:36,202 --> 00:57:38,785 That's where a lot of people are connecting and we encourage people to connect. 786 00:57:39,205 --> 00:57:42,072 There's a big buzz word all over now about feminism 787 00:57:42,125 --> 00:57:44,332 and women doing it for themselves and I think motorcycling 788 00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:48,378 has just maybe become a part of that. I think it's a good timing thing 789 00:57:48,798 --> 00:57:51,039 with the custom scene coming to the fore and then 790 00:57:51,384 --> 00:57:54,797 it happening around the same time as a lot of other things 791 00:57:54,888 --> 00:57:55,798 in women's lives. 792 00:57:56,055 --> 00:57:58,922 We have the potential to change the industry for the better. 793 00:57:59,392 --> 00:58:01,224 Women are fitting in in a different way. 794 00:58:01,686 --> 00:58:06,476 They're exposed directly to stories about other strong women 795 00:58:06,858 --> 00:58:08,849 who are coming up on their own and doing this. 796 00:58:09,277 --> 00:58:11,564 But right now you're dealing with a lot of women who are 797 00:58:11,988 --> 00:58:14,776 best known for Insta-fame and that's dangerous. 798 00:58:15,033 --> 00:58:18,025 They're riding, they're racing, they're doing really interesting things 799 00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:19,780 but it's really easy to write them off 800 00:58:20,246 --> 00:58:26,037 Looking at some of the more trendy Instagram photos and 801 00:58:26,127 --> 00:58:28,334 things for women in motorcycling that are happening right now, 802 00:58:28,671 --> 00:58:32,255 you can look at it as an extrapolation of old Easy Riders 803 00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:35,213 in a negative way, or you can look at it in a positive way 804 00:58:35,428 --> 00:58:37,669 because they're not draped on the bike not moving, 805 00:58:37,972 --> 00:58:39,258 they're riding it themselves. 806 00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,931 It's a fine line to get a woman on a motorcycle 807 00:58:42,227 --> 00:58:44,639 to empower her as well as the machine. 808 00:58:45,021 --> 00:58:46,637 And I think a lot of my fellow photographers 809 00:58:46,731 --> 00:58:49,314 actually fallen down on that whereas being a woman 810 00:58:49,567 --> 00:58:51,683 and shooting women, has actually been a lot easier 811 00:58:51,778 --> 00:58:54,736 for me than it maybe would be for one of my colleagues, 812 00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:56,480 men colleagues that is. 813 00:58:56,908 --> 00:59:02,074 It's more about women opening up motorcycle riding 814 00:59:02,163 --> 00:59:04,746 to other women right now and the community that I've met 815 00:59:04,874 --> 00:59:07,036 through that is just amazing. 816 00:59:07,210 --> 00:59:09,793 We did not mean to start Babes Ride Out at all. 817 00:59:10,046 --> 00:59:12,538 Well, Anya and I had been friends for a little while, 818 00:59:12,924 --> 00:59:15,666 and we wanted to go camping together and then we decided 819 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,219 to open it up to everyone, all women, so we posted a 820 00:59:20,139 --> 00:59:22,597 really shitty Instagram flyer and before you knew it, we were 821 00:59:22,684 --> 00:59:24,675 getting messages from girls all over the United States. 822 00:59:24,769 --> 00:59:27,682 It just grew exponentially as we used social media to reach 823 00:59:27,772 --> 00:59:30,184 out and tried to meet these ladies. It just creates this 824 00:59:30,275 --> 00:59:33,688 safety bubble. No-one's cooler than the next person. 825 00:59:34,529 --> 00:59:38,238 We're all the same this one weekend. You'll see a 60 year-old grandma 826 00:59:38,908 --> 00:59:42,242 hanging out with a 21 year-old girl. They're having a beer together 827 00:59:42,412 --> 00:59:45,621 and talking about where they ride, who they are, what they do. 828 00:59:45,999 --> 00:59:48,866 The idea of teaching women how to ride or at least 829 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,294 giving them their first go on a bike. Me and the girls got together 830 00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:55,463 and said, well our boyfriends taught us to ride in Asda car parks. 831 00:59:55,633 --> 00:59:59,251 What do girls do if they don't have a friend or a boyfriend 832 00:59:59,345 --> 01:00:01,336 that just has a little bike that they can give it a go on 833 01:00:01,472 --> 01:00:02,962 but they really want to get into it. 834 01:00:07,103 --> 01:00:10,687 My thought was, create a network that's based in something 835 01:00:11,024 --> 01:00:15,985 deeper than Instagram, hashtags, and a t-shirt you can buy for $10 836 01:00:16,112 --> 01:00:18,854 and actually connect these women so yeah we look like 837 01:00:18,948 --> 01:00:21,940 we're having a blast on social media but it's so much deeper. 838 01:00:22,243 --> 01:00:23,529 It's truly a network. 839 01:00:23,828 --> 01:00:26,570 With the younger generation maybe, of motorcyclist, 840 01:00:26,664 --> 01:00:29,122 it's a little bit less like you're a female motorcyclist, 841 01:00:29,208 --> 01:00:30,790 you're a male motorcyclist, we're all just motorcyclists. 842 01:00:31,544 --> 01:00:35,128 The distinction is not so important any more which I think is really cool. 843 01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:40,422 There's many times in my life when I've asked myself the same question 844 01:00:41,054 --> 01:00:45,799 'why do I build custom bikes?' because I'm definitely not rich 845 01:00:46,392 --> 01:00:49,134 and I've struggled most of my life to pay the rent. 846 01:00:51,272 --> 01:00:56,563 Just be real, why do we customise anything? We like to show off. 847 01:00:57,153 --> 01:01:00,111 I don't play golf, my father plays golf and I said 848 01:01:00,198 --> 01:01:05,068 ‘why the fuck do you like playing golf?' and he said 'it's the game that 849 01:01:05,161 --> 01:01:09,780 you can't play perfectly but it's that trying to do something perfect'. 850 01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:12,449 I'm like 'that's the dumbest thing I've ever fucking heard'. 851 01:01:13,419 --> 01:01:15,786 - Son what do you do? —- I build these bikes. 852 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,211 - You built a perfect one yet? - No 853 01:01:17,382 --> 01:01:18,463 - You think you can? - No 854 01:01:19,092 --> 01:01:27,182 It's kind of like playing golf, you think you're going to get perfect. You're not. 855 01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:52,581 I was the kid on my block that took everybody's bicycles apart 856 01:01:53,543 --> 01:01:55,409 and maybe didn't get them all back together all the time so 857 01:01:55,503 --> 01:01:56,959 their parents were always yelling at my parents. 858 01:01:57,338 --> 01:02:01,923 But that passion for how things worked, is what drove me. 859 01:02:02,427 --> 01:02:04,885 I have this disease of making, I want to make stuff 860 01:02:05,722 --> 01:02:10,512 but I've never been happier since I've been making stuff. So... 861 01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:14,762 The whole time you're working on these bikes, you can't wait 862 01:02:14,856 --> 01:02:19,191 until it's done. But then the minute it's done, it's done. 863 01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:22,273 Now what? You start another one. 864 01:02:24,073 --> 01:02:27,361 You know what? I love making things and motorcycles are just my favourite. 865 01:02:27,702 --> 01:02:31,195 I like cars but it's just it's a little too much for me 866 01:02:31,539 --> 01:02:35,407 and you spend years building a car and a motorcycle, you can get it out, 867 01:02:35,501 --> 01:02:38,289 you can get all your creative visions out and to me it's just as cool. 868 01:02:39,422 --> 01:02:41,629 All the skills and craft, all the engineering, 869 01:02:41,758 --> 01:02:45,126 and then also getting the aesthetic and artistry 870 01:02:45,261 --> 01:02:48,970 built into it, is such a fun process for me. 871 01:02:49,223 --> 01:02:53,057 That's why I think it's a worthwhile pursuit, even though 872 01:02:53,144 --> 01:02:55,351 it is just a frivolous thing, it's just a silly motorcycle 873 01:02:55,438 --> 01:02:57,896 but that combination makes it more than that. 874 01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:06,322 To me, I'm a caretaker of that bike. It belonged to somebody before 875 01:03:06,657 --> 01:03:10,901 and it'll belong to somebody after me. I'm taking and making it into 876 01:03:11,037 --> 01:03:14,155 something new and different. I don't want to be remembered personally 877 01:03:14,916 --> 01:03:17,829 but I want the brand to be remembered and to be thought of 878 01:03:17,919 --> 01:03:23,289 inside the motorcycling timeline as... we helped this thing. 879 01:03:24,091 --> 01:03:28,801 I want to leave a little something of me for later when I will not 880 01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:31,129 be there any more, maybe for my son and daughter. 881 01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:37,469 If he can have a little head turner, paragraph in the custom story 882 01:03:37,897 --> 01:03:38,932 I'm happy, I win. 883 01:03:40,399 --> 01:03:44,939 I don't feel like I have a choice because as soon as one is finished 884 01:03:45,404 --> 01:03:52,151 there's this nagging, creeping feeling that there's something new to be 885 01:03:53,329 --> 01:03:57,789 solved or something new to be looked at. There's new questions that have arrived. 886 01:03:58,251 --> 01:04:01,664 It's a disease, isn't it? It's like I either have to stop 887 01:04:02,338 --> 01:04:07,879 what I'm doing right now or I need to go all the way into it 888 01:04:07,969 --> 01:04:11,052 because you can't get into this a little bit, you have to do it 100% 889 01:04:11,347 --> 01:04:15,341 I was helping a friend of mine, Josh Elison, who's a great metal shaper. 890 01:04:15,601 --> 01:04:17,888 He came and looked at my bike. He's like 'wow that's fucking great'. 891 01:04:18,062 --> 01:04:20,269 I looked at his and I'm like ‘yours is way better than mine' 892 01:04:20,648 --> 01:04:22,889 He's like ‘no yours'. Then we start pointing out to 893 01:04:22,984 --> 01:04:25,851 each other 'no look where I fucked this up' 894 01:04:26,237 --> 01:04:28,353 'no, my fuck up is bigger than yours' 895 01:04:28,906 --> 01:04:30,817 It's like, what are we doing? 896 01:04:31,659 --> 01:04:33,616 In the motorcycle world, we're all competitive. 897 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,454 Like with Woolie, Woolie built a beautiful MV Agusta 898 01:04:37,999 --> 01:04:40,457 and I'm working on an MV Agusta right now. 899 01:04:40,626 --> 01:04:43,493 I love the bike that he built, I think it's gorgeous. 900 01:04:43,671 --> 01:04:46,834 So I'm here trying to do something a bit different 901 01:04:46,966 --> 01:04:51,301 with our MV but it's competitive. I want to build a better bike 902 01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:56,132 than Woolie built. Fuck yeah, I do! I respect the hell out of him 903 01:04:56,434 --> 01:04:58,766 but at the same time I want to build a better bike than he built. 904 01:04:59,186 --> 01:05:04,977 On the builder side, competition is never overly welcome. 905 01:05:05,401 --> 01:05:08,359 It's not just the competition for customers but it's the competition 906 01:05:08,446 --> 01:05:12,690 of ideas and protection of ideas so it all gets a little touchy. 907 01:05:13,409 --> 01:05:16,947 What would motorcycles be without a little beef now and again, right? 908 01:05:18,706 --> 01:05:22,665 But it just goes viral a lot faster now because of Instagram. 909 01:05:24,295 --> 01:05:27,413 I shudder a little bit. I'm probably not going to 910 01:05:27,548 --> 01:05:29,710 win any friends here but I shudder a little bit when I see 911 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,759 bikes like [BLEEP] or [BLEEP], basically just bikes that 912 01:05:34,472 --> 01:05:37,180 had a few little things unbolted and a lick of paint and 913 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,092 put back together again and they're probably really nice guys 914 01:05:40,186 --> 01:05:42,473 and they probably worked really hard to earn that money but 915 01:05:42,980 --> 01:05:44,391 you can't call that a custom. 916 01:05:44,690 --> 01:05:47,273 Everyone used to build a bike, take it to a show, put it on a plinth, 917 01:05:47,443 --> 01:05:51,653 and that was it. You just show off what you built. And no-one 918 01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:54,527 would ride the bike. Most of us are building custom bikes 919 01:05:55,326 --> 01:05:58,614 to race at a show now instead of building a show bike 920 01:05:58,871 --> 01:06:02,614 you're building a show bike that's for a flat track race or 921 01:06:02,708 --> 01:06:04,824 for a drag race or for a hill climb. 922 01:06:07,004 --> 01:06:13,091 So Glemseck 101, this event we are attending now is hosting the 923 01:06:13,177 --> 01:06:16,090 finals of Sultans Of Sprint sprint racing challenge. 924 01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:20,344 What makes me really, really happy and proud is that we 925 01:06:20,434 --> 01:06:27,306 manage to build up a kind of therapy for motorcycle freaks. 926 01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:31,143 What we're doing is, we call it turbo charged 927 01:06:31,904 --> 01:06:33,440 flying carpet contest. 928 01:06:33,656 --> 01:06:36,273 Yeah I think really what makes Sultans Of Sprint 929 01:06:36,492 --> 01:06:40,531 really, really special is it's something in between custom bikes 930 01:06:41,163 --> 01:06:47,409 and racing bikes. It's, for me, quite fascinating. It's all the 931 01:06:47,545 --> 01:06:52,005 energy they put on working on the bikes to make them faster. 932 01:06:52,550 --> 01:06:56,714 For a six second adrenaline shot, you know. It's completely 933 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,516 completely crazy. I mean, it's pushing custom to new boundaries. 934 01:07:09,942 --> 01:07:12,980 The economics of building bikes have meant that some people 935 01:07:13,070 --> 01:07:15,482 have excelled and other people have fallen by the wayside because 936 01:07:15,906 --> 01:07:18,113 it's not really a good way to make money unless you're very, very 937 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,192 organised or very talented. You've either got to create a brand 938 01:07:21,287 --> 01:07:23,904 that people will pay money for or a product 939 01:07:24,290 --> 01:07:26,281 that people feel is value for money. 940 01:07:26,667 --> 01:07:29,876 It keeps going because people are so passionate about it 941 01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:33,296 and for them, making money wasn't what got them into it 942 01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:37,717 in the first place. And for them, all they really want is a way to keep doing it. 943 01:07:38,095 --> 01:07:39,961 I'm in business to make money obviously 944 01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:43,890 I'm only concerned with having enough feed those kids and go back tomorrow. 945 01:07:44,435 --> 01:07:46,893 Everybody I know in the bike building world that has a 946 01:07:46,979 --> 01:07:49,095 bike building company, struggles. 947 01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:50,889 I don't know, maybe other people are getting 948 01:07:50,983 --> 01:07:52,849 rich doing it but I don't feel like I am. 949 01:07:53,110 --> 01:07:56,148 The enemy of the builder is the time. It's always the time. 950 01:07:56,447 --> 01:07:58,984 I don't know, working for ten hours, charging for one or two, 951 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,988 there's just nothing in it and if they were all brutally honest, 952 01:08:02,078 --> 01:08:04,945 it's probably only a £1 or £2 an hour. 953 01:08:05,331 --> 01:08:08,369 A lot of people enter the custom bike world with a passion 954 01:08:08,709 --> 01:08:12,748 which you need, but they get taken advantage of. 955 01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:17,214 People get them to build bikes, they don't pay them what it costs 956 01:08:17,301 --> 01:08:21,386 the person to build the bike, but they try to get it on the cheap. 957 01:08:22,473 --> 01:08:24,430 Take advantage of that person's passion. 958 01:08:25,142 --> 01:08:27,975 If somebody tries to sell a bike for $40,000, 959 01:08:28,521 --> 01:08:31,730 it's a lot of money but you've got $25,000 worth of parts in 960 01:08:31,816 --> 01:08:35,309 that bike. If it took that guy six months to build that bike, 961 01:08:35,945 --> 01:08:38,232 he made $15,000 in six months. 962 01:08:39,115 --> 01:08:41,777 If you're building a bike and you start from scratch every time, 963 01:08:42,368 --> 01:08:44,951 then hope to find a client who will buy it, you'll go broke. 964 01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:49,114 So we launched a concept for a batch build, 965 01:08:50,584 --> 01:08:55,078 and the bikes were a success, but we didn't really sell any. 966 01:08:56,382 --> 01:08:59,500 You can build what you think is the greatest bike in the world, 967 01:09:00,177 --> 01:09:02,965 and you've got 1,000 hours in it, and nobody likes it 968 01:09:03,597 --> 01:09:07,591 so if you get it on a commission, and you build it for them 969 01:09:07,685 --> 01:09:11,519 and as you go, he's paying and so forth, he's never happy. 970 01:09:12,189 --> 01:09:13,930 You never get to the end of that job. 971 01:09:14,859 --> 01:09:16,441 You can't make a living out of that. 972 01:09:19,488 --> 01:09:23,106 But it would be very easy to be seduced by Instagram 973 01:09:23,450 --> 01:09:26,784 and things to think that there's a living to be made 974 01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:30,205 easily in the custom bike scene. And then you have the business 975 01:09:30,374 --> 01:09:32,957 people who figure out how to sell swag and 976 01:09:33,043 --> 01:09:36,911 parts and things like that. I mean, Roland Sands is like the apex guy. 977 01:09:37,423 --> 01:09:39,835 The big thing for me is I'm not down there working on bikes all day. 978 01:09:40,426 --> 01:09:43,964 A lot of what I do is convince people to spend money with us. 979 01:09:44,388 --> 01:09:47,380 I look at it as a business. I don't look at it like 980 01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:50,049 I need to do this entire project on my own, 981 01:09:50,144 --> 01:09:51,475 in order to make it authentic. 982 01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:53,765 And then when you try to put the numbers in, 983 01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:55,472 and start to put the business model together, 984 01:09:55,566 --> 01:09:57,898 and start to actually figure out what's the economics of 985 01:09:57,985 --> 01:10:00,727 how this works? You find out that there's no data to 986 01:10:00,779 --> 01:10:04,864 go on, there's no real tangible information so you've got to make stuff up 987 01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:06,566 and then you go, 'well this is all bullshit' 988 01:10:07,036 --> 01:10:10,950 The custom motorcycle thing is cool and it's great 989 01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:15,249 and it is a business but to be successful at it, 990 01:10:16,086 --> 01:10:17,872 we all have to do something else. 991 01:10:18,881 --> 01:10:22,795 Our parts line is what actually brings in the steady income 992 01:10:22,885 --> 01:10:26,094 on a regular basis. We build a bike, it gets a lot of press, 993 01:10:26,180 --> 01:10:29,013 it gets a lot of media attention, and then they come to our website 994 01:10:29,099 --> 01:10:32,387 to check us out and hopefully they leave buying a tail light 995 01:10:32,478 --> 01:10:35,641 or a hat and that's basically the business model. 996 01:10:38,525 --> 01:10:43,565 People that I don't want to deal with is cheap, 997 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,656 cheap people that want to nickel and dime on each project. 998 01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,241 How much is this? How much is that? How much is this? 999 01:10:52,957 --> 01:10:57,326 It's hard to deal with people that don't understand what 1000 01:10:58,212 --> 01:10:59,953 it takes to be a craftsman. 1001 01:11:01,048 --> 01:11:05,542 I don't have a millionaire coming up to me, wanting me to build 1002 01:11:05,636 --> 01:11:10,597 a $50,000 bike. I've got blue collar dudes, a guy that 1003 01:11:11,058 --> 01:11:13,595 has saved a couple of bucks, he's got three kids at home, 1004 01:11:13,894 --> 01:11:17,353 and he's wanting to spend $12,000 on a really cool bike. 1005 01:11:17,773 --> 01:11:21,311 So I want to make sure he's getting something really cool for his money. 1006 01:11:21,694 --> 01:11:25,062 I mean, these are luxury goods. Nobody needs a motorcycle. 1007 01:11:25,364 --> 01:11:27,071 Certainly nobody needs a custom motorcycle 1008 01:11:27,324 --> 01:11:34,492 so my client is the higher crest of the 1% of the world. 1009 01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:40,702 I need movie star customers with bigger pockets. 1010 01:11:41,630 --> 01:11:44,418 Our average customer has changed quite dramatically. 1011 01:11:44,675 --> 01:11:48,213 We've gone from blue collar guys to building bikes for millionaires. 1012 01:11:49,054 --> 01:11:52,263 My day job is my day job. I like doing this stuff, 1013 01:11:52,349 --> 01:11:56,718 I don't want to make this my work, I need that balance of 1014 01:11:58,689 --> 01:12:03,855 reality and this little fun fucking motorcycle shit that we do. 1015 01:12:04,486 --> 01:12:08,195 I don't make money doing this, customers are a pain in the ass. 1016 01:12:10,993 --> 01:12:14,202 Sometimes it's pretty hard when a guy has been thinking about his bike 1017 01:12:14,288 --> 01:12:16,950 for the last year and he's got all these ideas on paper 1018 01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:18,702 and he's got everything that he wants together 1019 01:12:19,293 --> 01:12:20,499 and then you've got to burst his bubble 1020 01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:21,951 because then he can't afford what he wants. 1021 01:12:22,254 --> 01:12:24,086 The first question: What does it cost? 1022 01:12:24,423 --> 01:12:28,462 And I say, well it can cost $700 or $70,000. 1023 01:12:28,552 --> 01:12:29,508 What do you want to spend? 1024 01:12:30,054 --> 01:12:32,386 The prices, I keep it pretty simple. I just think about how much 1025 01:12:32,473 --> 01:12:34,714 time is involved and how expensive it's going to be. 1026 01:12:35,851 --> 01:12:39,970 I can build a bike for $20,000 or $100,000. There's no... 1027 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,477 there's no set thing. I don't have a minimum price. 1028 01:12:44,234 --> 01:12:49,195 Right now they start at around 18 and go up to about 40. 1029 01:12:49,948 --> 01:12:54,533 And honestly it's like surprising how easy it is to spend 1030 01:12:55,329 --> 01:12:58,287 $35,000 on a $35,000 bike. 1031 01:12:58,999 --> 01:13:03,664 They end up going into personal collections and that's really what 1032 01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:07,296 I can say about it. The level of collector has to be consistent with the build 1033 01:13:07,716 --> 01:13:12,005 and I've just been really fortunate that I've aligned with people 1034 01:13:12,096 --> 01:13:13,461 that get what I do. 1035 01:13:14,932 --> 01:13:18,345 Yeah Mama Tried is very unique. You can go flat track racing on Friday 1036 01:13:18,477 --> 01:13:20,969 and go to a show on Saturday, and on Sunday you can go ice racing 1037 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:27,271 so to have a flat track race in an NBA stadium is pretty spectacular. 1038 01:13:27,444 --> 01:13:29,526 We're really into dirt tracking, flat tracking around here, 1039 01:13:29,613 --> 01:13:33,322 that's a big sport in this area. So we were like ‘how can we do 1040 01:13:33,659 --> 01:13:37,698 an indoor race?' so we thought of the coke syrup thing and that's how it started. 1041 01:13:39,540 --> 01:13:43,374 We knew the Hooligan thing was happening. I got in touch with 1042 01:13:43,544 --> 01:13:47,037 Aaron Guardado and I was like, ‘so what's the deal with Hooligan? 1043 01:13:47,131 --> 01:13:51,546 Is there rules?' And he's like, 'no not really, it's really just dirt ball 1044 01:13:52,553 --> 01:13:55,636 outlaw racing, for people who just want to get into the sport'. 1045 01:13:55,722 --> 01:13:56,632 And I was like, 'alright let's have it'. 1046 01:13:57,141 --> 01:14:00,805 It definitely started out as... show up at the track and race your 1047 01:14:00,894 --> 01:14:05,229 Harley no matter what it is. Your street Harley slowly evolves 1048 01:14:05,315 --> 01:14:08,603 into a race Harley and next thing you know you've got yourself 1049 01:14:08,694 --> 01:14:11,561 a full blown race bike. What's good about the Hooligan 1050 01:14:11,655 --> 01:14:14,693 class is that it's a really attainable form of racing. 1051 01:14:14,783 --> 01:14:18,071 Your regular Joe can go out and race and potentially win 1052 01:14:18,162 --> 01:14:21,996 everything on a pretty small budget which is really nice. 1053 01:14:22,374 --> 01:14:25,912 And you can have a complete race bike for under $5,000 1054 01:14:26,128 --> 01:14:30,292 which is crazy. You can't have anything competitive in any other racing 1055 01:14:30,757 --> 01:14:32,168 on that minimal budget. 1056 01:14:33,719 --> 01:14:35,756 It's great because it's bringing a ton of new people 1057 01:14:35,846 --> 01:14:37,257 into the sport. A ton. 1058 01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:44,223 I think Sideburn was hugely influential on re-exporting dirt track 1059 01:14:44,354 --> 01:14:47,563 back to the USA and getting people interested in it again. 1060 01:14:48,192 --> 01:14:50,479 Dirt track racing is: you throw a bike in the back of your pick up truck 1061 01:14:50,903 --> 01:14:54,271 and your leathers and you go racing and that's what's cool about it. 1062 01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:58,403 Summers are crazy around here because everyone only gets 1063 01:14:58,785 --> 01:15:01,493 four or five months to ride. So in the winter everyone is like 1064 01:15:01,580 --> 01:15:03,617 always messing with their stuff because you can't ride 1065 01:15:04,041 --> 01:15:05,748 but you're thinking about motorcycles every day. 1066 01:15:07,044 --> 01:15:09,706 We just thought, what a better way to do it, like have that stoke 1067 01:15:09,796 --> 01:15:12,288 in the middle of winter. A little bit of something in the deepest 1068 01:15:12,382 --> 01:15:15,124 part of winter to get you through until summertime. 1069 01:15:15,385 --> 01:15:18,047 The bikes that we chose, maybe they're not the best 1070 01:15:18,388 --> 01:15:22,097 of any genre that they're in, I mean some of them are, 1071 01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:26,182 it still fucking rules. It doesn't matter that it's not perfect. 1072 01:15:26,563 --> 01:15:29,396 The person that was building that bike had an idea what 1073 01:15:29,483 --> 01:15:33,226 they wanted, they went after it and didn't care what other people thought. 1074 01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:39,694 We came to Mama Tried show, we got invited while we were at Sturgis. 1075 01:15:41,245 --> 01:15:44,033 That was a boost of confidence while we were at Sturgis. 1076 01:15:44,206 --> 01:15:47,039 It sucks. Nobody got our bike whatsoever. 1077 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,997 A lot of old people with golf carts and shit and then 1078 01:15:50,087 --> 01:15:53,500 we got the call to come to Mama Tried. I think it's a cool thing. 1079 01:15:53,590 --> 01:15:56,958 And I think that's had a lot to do with why these little grass roots shows 1080 01:15:57,678 --> 01:16:02,423 can become huge but still stay cool and relevant and not a total sell-out. 1081 01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:06,434 We're all into two wheels. There's so many different genres 1082 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,852 and things you can fit it when it comes to two wheels. 1083 01:16:08,939 --> 01:16:12,557 I want them all in the same room. I want to split up all their groups 1084 01:16:13,277 --> 01:16:16,861 so I don't put a big pile of choppers in the corner so all the 1085 01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:19,234 chopper kids can go make a dark corner and hang out and 1086 01:16:19,575 --> 01:16:22,283 talk shit on everybody because they're too cool to talk to anybody else. 1087 01:16:22,369 --> 01:16:24,280 I want to take them out of their comfort zone, 1088 01:16:24,788 --> 01:16:27,496 put them next to a race guy and I want to see one of those 1089 01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:30,325 chopper guys on a race bike at Flat Out Friday the next year. 1090 01:16:30,836 --> 01:16:33,954 They can hate 95% of the bikes but they'll love one. 1091 01:16:34,214 --> 01:16:40,586 Or vice versa. Some of those bikes I'm... I don't like them. 1092 01:16:41,305 --> 01:16:43,046 But I know that they're going to like them and when I go 1093 01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:45,848 out there, right now, and that sun's just like that and I see 1094 01:16:45,934 --> 01:16:48,892 the bike that I don't like, gleaming in the sun and 1095 01:16:48,979 --> 01:16:52,768 there's people all around it that are just loving it, 1096 01:16:54,985 --> 01:16:57,898 What do you say? It's perfect. It's great. 1097 01:16:58,405 --> 01:17:01,397 I feel like we lucked out and did something at a really perfect time 1098 01:17:01,491 --> 01:17:07,077 in what's happening with motorcycling. Maybe it'll be like this for a long time 1099 01:17:07,164 --> 01:17:09,622 or maybe it's just a little space in time but 1100 01:17:09,875 --> 01:17:11,457 it's cool to be around it while it's here. 1101 01:17:11,877 --> 01:17:14,710 Winter time changes between ice riding and building. 1102 01:18:32,165 --> 01:18:33,371 It's a labour of love at the end of the day. 1103 01:18:33,542 --> 01:18:35,408 Building these bikes is something I can do 1104 01:18:35,502 --> 01:18:38,460 to get away from life. It's something I can do to just relax. 1105 01:18:38,797 --> 01:18:43,633 It truly is fun and it allows my imagination to go wild. 1106 01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:49,756 I think that would be difficult today, to start up and do 1107 01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:51,682 something that hasn't already been done. 1108 01:18:51,935 --> 01:18:55,178 We made it legit to do whatever you want 1109 01:18:55,689 --> 01:18:58,351 because we didn't follow any kind of rules. 1110 01:18:58,525 --> 01:19:03,361 I was the only guy who was a racer who was building custom bikes. 1111 01:19:04,156 --> 01:19:06,944 It was this crazy blend, like taking those two things 1112 01:19:07,075 --> 01:19:11,194 and smashing them together was the most natural thing in the world to do. 1113 01:19:11,455 --> 01:19:15,369 What I wanted the company to be, what the inspiration was for the company 1114 01:19:15,709 --> 01:19:17,416 it was the English street biker scene. 1115 01:19:17,627 --> 01:19:20,085 For a kid coming up in the sport bike community, 1116 01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:24,840 to see... here's your sport bike, but this is what it could be turned into, 1117 01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:29,219 and it was mind-blowing to me. 1118 01:20:00,170 --> 01:20:05,290 The custom bikes that get built now often begin with 1119 01:20:05,383 --> 01:20:11,470 a collaboration going through photos of examples of bikes 1120 01:20:11,556 --> 01:20:15,766 that someone has seen on social media. Custom builders get really edgy if 1121 01:20:15,852 --> 01:20:20,562 you claim that it was your bike where they got the idea. 1122 01:20:20,649 --> 01:20:23,437 Every custom builder came up with every idea they've ever had 1123 01:20:23,527 --> 01:20:28,146 on any bike they've ever built and I'd be the last person to suggest otherwise. 1124 01:20:28,448 --> 01:20:31,236 You have to obey the laws of physics, you can break the laws 1125 01:20:31,326 --> 01:20:36,116 of man all you want, but the laws of physics are not bendable 1126 01:20:36,289 --> 01:20:38,781 so you have to find a way to work within them. 1127 01:20:39,459 --> 01:20:42,702 Building a good custom bike, to make it look good in the metal 1128 01:20:43,129 --> 01:20:50,001 and actually physically work as a piece of transport, is fiendishly hard. 1129 01:20:50,846 --> 01:20:53,087 Taking things that don't work and making them work 1130 01:20:53,139 --> 01:20:56,131 and connecting those lines, it always inspires thought. 1131 01:20:56,226 --> 01:20:59,969 It makes people think. It's not just 'hey look at this custom bike! 1132 01:21:00,522 --> 01:21:02,388 it's an idea. 1133 01:21:04,109 --> 01:21:07,272 To me, less is more so when you look at the bikes 1134 01:21:07,362 --> 01:21:11,151 that I do, they almost look like they wouldn't work. 1135 01:21:11,783 --> 01:21:16,118 I guess it's a simple process that's difficult to do, if that makes sense. 1136 01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:19,993 This is a bike I'm doing for the Show Class People's Champ. 1137 01:21:20,458 --> 01:21:22,950 It's for the Born Free show this year up in California. 1138 01:21:23,670 --> 01:21:26,128 I basically modified the frame how I wanted it to look. 1139 01:21:26,673 --> 01:21:29,461 I actually built the bike around the tank. 1140 01:21:29,885 --> 01:21:32,627 So I built this tank a few years ago and it's been 1141 01:21:32,721 --> 01:21:34,883 sitting on my shelf and I've been waiting to use it. 1142 01:21:35,557 --> 01:21:39,642 There is going to be straight bars that are clean. There's going to be no 1143 01:21:39,895 --> 01:21:42,011 controls on them with an internal throttle. 1144 01:21:42,772 --> 01:21:48,393 It'll just look like a nice clean little short chop but it's a soft tail. 1145 01:21:48,945 --> 01:21:52,609 That's basically the gist of what this one's going to look like. 1146 01:21:53,617 --> 01:21:57,576 Don't do design for the sake of design because that's not design. 1147 01:21:58,246 --> 01:22:01,034 You're not solving any problems, you're creating a problem by doing that. 1148 01:22:01,499 --> 01:22:03,911 I think it goes back to the simplicity of the design 1149 01:22:04,419 --> 01:22:07,377 so anything that is simple and elegant it will be 1150 01:22:07,589 --> 01:22:13,005 more or less timeless. As soon as you add more than what should be there, 1151 01:22:13,511 --> 01:22:14,876 it can date quite quickly. 1152 01:22:15,847 --> 01:22:21,138 A component or a complete machine, whatever it is, designed to perform 1153 01:22:21,603 --> 01:22:26,018 properly, at its best possible way, it automatically somehow 1154 01:22:26,232 --> 01:22:28,849 becomes a beautiful object, in this case a motorcycle, 1155 01:22:29,486 --> 01:22:31,068 inherently it's beautiful. 1156 01:23:00,642 --> 01:23:03,225 Honestly, I'll block an engine up against a wall, 1157 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,478 move tyres back and forth, and get the wheel base things down 1158 01:23:06,564 --> 01:23:09,773 to where I'm starting to feel it, and then I'll take pictures of it 1159 01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:13,026 and I'll just sketch on the pictures with a pencil. 1160 01:23:13,697 --> 01:23:17,281 So every time it needs a part designed, I do it in 1161 01:23:17,367 --> 01:23:20,200 Solid Works. I design every part myself. 1162 01:23:21,496 --> 01:23:23,988 I'm a designer from the first through to the end. 1163 01:23:36,428 --> 01:23:40,763 Recently, I had the opportunity to build a bike with my own 1164 01:23:40,932 --> 01:23:45,642 aesthetic. From that, it kind of opened up this huge door to 1165 01:23:46,021 --> 01:23:48,228 make me want to come to work and create art 1166 01:23:48,523 --> 01:23:50,639 that happens to be on a motorcycle. 1167 01:23:51,401 --> 01:23:54,860 Typically I like to try and get as much creative freedom as possible 1168 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:58,523 but some customers just want to have some say. 1169 01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:01,617 That definitely disrupts the creative process. 1170 01:24:01,911 --> 01:24:05,700 So we try to do a couple of spec builds a year 1171 01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:07,997 where we just build what we want and sell. 1172 01:24:08,418 --> 01:24:12,958 Customers obviously bring in money so we try to do a few of those as well. 1173 01:24:13,757 --> 01:24:16,419 Some are great and some not so great. 1174 01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:18,713 There are times that people come in and they say: 1175 01:24:18,928 --> 01:24:23,764 Hey I saw this bike on Bike EXIF or Bike Shed or 1176 01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:26,012 Pipeburn and it's like: I want you to make me this bike. 1177 01:24:26,102 --> 01:24:28,810 It's like, no. Somebody else made that bike. That's their bike. 1178 01:24:28,980 --> 01:24:31,517 I'm not going to make that bike. Or they ask us to repeat what 1179 01:24:31,608 --> 01:24:33,815 we already made that they saw on Bike EXIF. I'm like: 1180 01:24:34,110 --> 01:24:36,898 No I don't want to do that, that's no fun. 1181 01:24:52,879 --> 01:24:57,248 I negotiate for white card every time. We discuss, I try to know 1182 01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:00,383 who is in front of me and we try to know what are his hobbies 1183 01:25:00,512 --> 01:25:03,550 his passions, what he likes really. And I will do what he wants 1184 01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,098 not what he asks. There's a bit of a difference. 1185 01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:10,432 All you need is *that*. Remember that. All you need is *that*. 1186 01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,977 But you can have as much of that as you want 1187 01:25:15,193 --> 01:25:21,235 but it don't give you style though. *That* don't buy taste, does it! 1188 01:25:21,658 --> 01:25:24,616 It's really interesting to see nowadays if you go to a show 1189 01:25:24,661 --> 01:25:30,031 like Yokohama Mooneyes. There's so many incredible builds there 1190 01:25:30,125 --> 01:25:33,538 that... a lot of people actually say that the best customised Harleys 1191 01:25:33,628 --> 01:25:34,584 come from Japan. 1192 01:28:05,113 --> 01:28:07,730 What blew me away about that bike was that... 1193 01:28:08,491 --> 01:28:12,860 the way he just so effortlessly encapsulated everything 1194 01:28:12,954 --> 01:28:16,948 in one bike. It was like, woah! And then he goes back to 1195 01:28:17,041 --> 01:28:19,157 building a chopper or something. 1196 01:28:19,711 --> 01:28:24,456 With builders at the top of their game, the skill set is 1197 01:28:24,674 --> 01:28:27,257 kind of more than the style. 1198 01:28:28,136 --> 01:28:31,299 One of the most interesting characters is lan Barry 1199 01:28:31,556 --> 01:28:37,347 of Falcon Motorcycles. He made 3 or 4 of the most 1200 01:28:37,687 --> 01:28:43,148 beautiful custom bikes ever, selling for insane amounts of money. 1201 01:28:43,776 --> 01:28:47,895 I like the word friction. Friction is responsible for 1202 01:28:47,989 --> 01:28:54,281 the conversion of energy so to not embrace seemingly 1203 01:28:54,370 --> 01:28:58,329 conflicting ideas and trying to hold them in the same container 1204 01:28:58,499 --> 01:29:00,831 as long as you can, engineering and art, 1205 01:29:00,918 --> 01:29:03,410 whatever the two are, they're always there 1206 01:29:04,213 --> 01:29:10,425 but that friction is necessary and I play with that. I swim in it. 1207 01:29:10,553 --> 01:29:13,045 I antagonise it. 1208 01:29:14,223 --> 01:29:18,012 It's really difficult to create a signature style. 1209 01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:22,388 But then you get people like Autofabrica and they've managed to get 1210 01:29:22,648 --> 01:29:25,265 that kind of signature look and they do it beautifully. 1211 01:29:25,777 --> 01:29:28,109 We've got DNA that we've developed from very early on 1212 01:29:28,196 --> 01:29:31,405 so it's very easy for us to apply that same principle 1213 01:29:31,491 --> 01:29:33,983 that same formula to anything that we build and 1214 01:29:34,077 --> 01:29:37,069 designing a bike that doesn't conform to a trend but 1215 01:29:37,163 --> 01:29:39,530 almost gives a nod to whatever design era 1216 01:29:39,582 --> 01:29:41,448 you want that bike to be applicable for 1217 01:29:42,168 --> 01:29:43,704 and having a modern take on it. 1218 01:29:43,961 --> 01:29:47,079 We're not constrained by other people telling us what to do 1219 01:29:47,173 --> 01:29:50,632 or how to design something. We just come up with an idea 1220 01:29:50,718 --> 01:29:52,675 and just put it in metal. 1221 01:29:53,888 --> 01:29:56,755 The brand, the business, our skill sets have all evolved 1222 01:29:56,849 --> 01:30:01,093 and it's gone from being a custom bikes shop 1223 01:30:01,187 --> 01:30:06,523 to coach builders. Our skill sets lend us to coach building a motorcycle. 1224 01:30:06,984 --> 01:30:12,696 So the Type 11 project with Yamaha, I feel like we've captured a modern 1225 01:30:13,324 --> 01:30:18,364 take on a café racer, dare I say it. I think every designer's dream 1226 01:30:18,454 --> 01:30:22,118 is to create concepts and not water them down 1227 01:30:22,208 --> 01:30:27,169 and what we like to think is that we've created that but we have 1228 01:30:27,255 --> 01:30:29,246 got real world constraints as well. 1229 01:30:33,970 --> 01:30:36,712 One of the most important things is the marriage of form and function. 1230 01:30:38,724 --> 01:30:40,806 I like to have something aesthetically pleasing 1231 01:30:42,353 --> 01:30:45,015 but it has to work too and perform the function so there's 1232 01:30:45,106 --> 01:30:47,723 often that compromise, the left and right side of the brain, 1233 01:30:47,817 --> 01:30:51,560 which is like turmoil. Your brain is fighting with itself. 1234 01:30:52,196 --> 01:30:54,107 As an engineer, the thing that I really enjoy is 1235 01:30:54,198 --> 01:30:55,780 when someone says ‘you can't do that'. 1236 01:30:56,784 --> 01:30:58,240 Fuck you, I'm going to do it! 1237 01:30:58,536 --> 01:31:00,903 When it's not supposed to work or be that way, 1238 01:31:01,205 --> 01:31:03,572 And you can find a way to get it all to balance out 1239 01:31:03,666 --> 01:31:06,374 and all to be aesthetic, all to still function. 1240 01:31:06,794 --> 01:31:10,287 I want somebody to be able to ride around Europe or America 1241 01:31:10,339 --> 01:31:12,922 on our bikes but if somebody else wants to do a show bike, 1242 01:31:13,342 --> 01:31:16,460 they may be showing their skills off rather than talking about a bike 1243 01:31:16,554 --> 01:31:19,342 that's rideable. It's just saying ‘this is a piece of art'. 1244 01:31:19,724 --> 01:31:23,342 Custom bikes are as rideable as the builder wants them to be. 1245 01:31:23,686 --> 01:31:25,427 The first thing is, they all have to work 1246 01:31:25,771 --> 01:31:27,307 so I ride them all. They all work. 1247 01:31:27,523 --> 01:31:29,685 Even if it's going in a museum, that's a given. 1248 01:31:30,026 --> 01:31:33,894 Every part on a bike has got to work perfectly. 1249 01:31:34,363 --> 01:31:37,947 I want my bikes to be ridden as hard as possible 1250 01:31:38,326 --> 01:31:40,237 and that's typically what I tell my clients. 1251 01:31:40,912 --> 01:31:44,530 I put several hundred miles on your bike before 1252 01:31:45,166 --> 01:31:50,036 I gave it to you and now I want you to ride the piss out of it. 1253 01:31:50,630 --> 01:31:55,215 I can think of nothing worse than just to sit and look at it. 1254 01:31:56,385 --> 01:31:59,423 I'm flattered and also insulted, simultaneously. 1255 01:32:00,348 --> 01:32:04,057 A bike has to have its look, its image, but I think 1256 01:32:04,101 --> 01:32:10,097 that a bike that's not ridden is defeating its purpose for being. 1257 01:32:10,775 --> 01:32:13,608 At this point, I would like to create machines 1258 01:32:13,819 --> 01:32:16,902 that are less of a motorcycle for people to ride 1259 01:32:17,323 --> 01:32:19,405 and more of a kinetic art piece. 1260 01:32:20,034 --> 01:32:21,820 Fun to create and also fun for the viewer 1261 01:32:22,036 --> 01:32:24,869 to figure out how it works and spark the curiosity 1262 01:32:24,956 --> 01:32:28,950 ‘cause my entire existence in this culture is 1263 01:32:29,126 --> 01:32:31,413 revolving around my curiosity of how things work. 1264 01:32:31,879 --> 01:32:35,622 A lot of custom bikes back in the day were artistic 1265 01:32:35,716 --> 01:32:38,458 rather than functional I think. 1266 01:32:39,178 --> 01:32:42,671 There's an old thing though, if it looks right it usually is right. 1267 01:32:43,182 --> 01:32:49,098 Form following function and everything and yeah the market has changed. 1268 01:32:50,231 --> 01:32:51,721 For the better. I guess. 1269 01:32:53,192 --> 01:32:56,230 I think that putting anything in a museum changes 1270 01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,529 how people look at it. I see no distinction between 1271 01:32:59,615 --> 01:33:03,153 art and engineering. You can make pure art 1272 01:33:03,411 --> 01:33:06,403 without engineering but anything that has to do with 1273 01:33:06,581 --> 01:33:08,413 construction has engineering involved. 1274 01:33:09,208 --> 01:33:11,245 This is perhaps the art of engineering. 1275 01:33:12,169 --> 01:33:13,284 Or the engineering of art! 1276 01:33:13,671 --> 01:33:15,127 They're intimately entwined. 1277 01:33:15,631 --> 01:33:20,501 The Custom Revolution exhibition is an exhibit of 24 motorcycles 1278 01:33:20,595 --> 01:33:25,089 from around the world. A remarkably diverse collection. 1279 01:33:25,349 --> 01:33:28,137 Peak examples of a renaissance that's happened in motorcycle 1280 01:33:28,227 --> 01:33:29,809 culture in the last 10 years. 1281 01:33:30,021 --> 01:33:34,606 I was asked by the Petersen Museum if I was interested in helping them 1282 01:33:35,026 --> 01:33:38,564 put together a show so it was amazing to bring 1283 01:33:38,571 --> 01:33:40,938 all that stuff into an actual museum. 1284 01:33:41,282 --> 01:33:43,819 There's been a lot of shows but there's never been a museum show 1285 01:33:44,327 --> 01:33:50,243 featuring this scene and it doesn't represent any particular style 1286 01:33:50,791 --> 01:33:55,035 but it does represent a movement and a cultural moment. 1287 01:33:55,129 --> 01:33:58,292 I've been calling this a renaissance in motorcycle culture 1288 01:33:58,883 --> 01:34:01,250 the likes of which we haven't seen since the 70s. 1289 01:34:01,594 --> 01:34:04,962 So in this instance, I'm hoping that framing them 1290 01:34:05,056 --> 01:34:09,345 within a museum will make people think a little bit differently 1291 01:34:09,435 --> 01:34:11,301 about what's happening with motorcycles. 1292 01:34:11,812 --> 01:34:14,270 They're eccentric, each one is unique, 1293 01:34:14,690 --> 01:34:17,978 but they're design objects. They all needed to be special 1294 01:34:18,611 --> 01:34:21,729 so I thought 'we need wow bikes". 1295 01:34:24,283 --> 01:34:30,450 So what connects all these motorcycles is a purity of vision and intention 1296 01:34:30,873 --> 01:34:34,616 but mostly it's the success of how they've realised their ideas. 1297 01:34:35,044 --> 01:34:40,255 These trends will go away but the style remains. 1298 01:34:41,092 --> 01:34:45,211 It's one of the first times that I've been aware in the motor industry 1299 01:34:45,304 --> 01:34:49,047 where manufacturers have actually listened to what people want. 1300 01:34:49,725 --> 01:34:53,138 Before, it was 'this is what you need', this is what you must have' 1301 01:34:53,229 --> 01:34:56,438 Now it's 'shit we've got to work out what you guys want 1302 01:34:56,524 --> 01:34:58,185 otherwise you're going to buy the other man's one.' 1303 01:34:58,609 --> 01:35:03,820 If you look at Yamaha, BMW, Triumph, Moto Guzzi, 1304 01:35:04,073 --> 01:35:08,408 they are actively courting the custom scene. 1305 01:35:08,828 --> 01:35:12,321 If it wouldn't have been for this whole scene, 1306 01:35:12,832 --> 01:35:14,948 I think we would never have made a Nine T for example. 1307 01:35:16,085 --> 01:35:19,953 But when we started seeing the shift towards these kind of bikes, 1308 01:35:20,047 --> 01:35:24,132 then you saw this whole new wave custom scene, that triggered us 1309 01:35:24,635 --> 01:35:27,172 to start working on a bike like that on our own. 1310 01:35:27,221 --> 01:35:29,553 We saw that there's definitely an audience out there 1311 01:35:30,349 --> 01:35:36,846 We are more or less 30% of the total sales of the company. 1312 01:35:37,314 --> 01:35:43,105 Until now, we sold something like 46,000 bikes. 1313 01:35:43,779 --> 01:35:47,488 We've always been in the custom scene, from the very beginning. 1314 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:52,068 Some of our first parts and accessories date back to the early 1900s. 1315 01:35:52,371 --> 01:35:55,284 So within just a few years of the company coming alive, 1316 01:35:55,666 --> 01:36:00,206 there was ways to make the motorcycle different, custom. 1317 01:36:01,213 --> 01:36:04,296 When you buy a Harley, it's basically the down payment 1318 01:36:04,341 --> 01:36:06,799 and then people load it up with all the accessories. 1319 01:36:07,261 --> 01:36:09,468 I think that's part of the reason Harley is so successful. 1320 01:36:09,722 --> 01:36:13,966 Because you're buying a factory bike, but then you can spend another $15,000 1321 01:36:14,059 --> 01:36:16,642 on trinkets. Triumph has just noticed that. 1322 01:36:16,937 --> 01:36:20,350 They now do the Bobber, they'll be 150 accessories for it. 1323 01:36:20,649 --> 01:36:23,232 So that's their approach to the custom scene. 1324 01:36:23,694 --> 01:36:26,777 I was working on a bike in the background and I wanted 1325 01:36:26,864 --> 01:36:30,323 to do a series, I contacted Triumph France to get some bikes. 1326 01:36:30,743 --> 01:36:34,407 They told me no, we don't give you bikes because we have our own 1327 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:39,995 package to custom the bikes directly in the shop, in the Triumph shop. 1328 01:36:41,212 --> 01:36:43,920 That's not custom, of course, it's accessories. 1329 01:36:44,340 --> 01:36:46,752 I've just bought a new van, I went to the showroom and I 1330 01:36:46,842 --> 01:36:49,504 specced my van out. I could say I've got a custom van 1331 01:36:49,595 --> 01:36:51,506 because I've got this, that and the other on it 1332 01:36:51,597 --> 01:36:52,883 but it's not a bloody custom is it? 1333 01:36:53,182 --> 01:36:55,719 If the scene is offered to you on a plate, 1334 01:36:55,976 --> 01:36:58,468 and the manufacturer says 'here's the bike, here's the helmet 1335 01:36:58,562 --> 01:37:01,805 here's the jacket, go off, live your own dream.' 1336 01:37:02,608 --> 01:37:04,474 If you want to buy into that, fantastic. 1337 01:37:04,902 --> 01:37:09,692 When a movement gains speed, larger companies will want to try 1338 01:37:09,740 --> 01:37:13,108 and capitalise on that movement because there's going to be people 1339 01:37:13,410 --> 01:37:18,576 who literally can't afford artisan, one-off produced 1340 01:37:18,833 --> 01:37:23,418 motorcycles 'cause they cost a lot of money so if you can buy a 1341 01:37:23,587 --> 01:37:27,296 custom bike for £10k, then that's brilliant. 1342 01:37:27,508 --> 01:37:30,876 I think it depends on whether they're doing it as tokenism, 1343 01:37:31,053 --> 01:37:34,216 or whether they're doing it in some way that they actually 1344 01:37:34,890 --> 01:37:37,427 believe in it. Some brands do it very well, 1345 01:37:37,601 --> 01:37:39,933 but others just pretend to do it. 1346 01:37:40,813 --> 01:37:43,896 That's not what this is all about for me and people like me. 1347 01:37:44,024 --> 01:37:46,891 It's not what it's about. Nice things to look at but 1348 01:37:47,027 --> 01:37:48,483 there's no heart and there's no soul. 1349 01:37:49,196 --> 01:37:52,484 The real hardcore guys that will build bikes, they always stay 1350 01:37:52,575 --> 01:37:55,158 below the radar and they're building their own bikes and 1351 01:37:55,244 --> 01:37:57,201 they don't give a shit what the brands do. 1352 01:37:57,454 --> 01:38:02,164 It has to be one person, with one vision, working on 1353 01:38:02,585 --> 01:38:06,954 a concept. It's not a corporation that says a custom bike should 1354 01:38:07,047 --> 01:38:10,005 look like X,Y,Z. Oh we're going to make 10,000 of them. 1355 01:38:10,259 --> 01:38:13,468 Or even 10 of them. It's a one off. 1356 01:38:14,430 --> 01:38:18,344 It's the line between true life and lifestyle 1357 01:38:18,726 --> 01:38:20,717 and true community and corporate. 1358 01:38:21,020 --> 01:38:25,856 Essentially, what the manufacturers are doing are using us to sell bikes. 1359 01:38:26,483 --> 01:38:29,225 Custom bikes that have been funded by manufacturers 1360 01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:35,441 to appeal to an audience... Is that marketing gone mad or 1361 01:38:36,035 --> 01:38:40,529 does it defy what it actually means to have a custom bike? 1362 01:38:41,332 --> 01:38:45,121 A perfect example of that is a manufacturer making a Bobber. 1363 01:38:45,336 --> 01:38:46,826 When you think about that... 1364 01:38:47,212 --> 01:38:50,295 So that Bobber's possibly the worst bike I've ever seen 1365 01:38:50,507 --> 01:38:56,173 in my life. It's just the front half of the Bonneville with no thought 1366 01:38:56,263 --> 01:38:59,631 applied to the rear end of it and the one thing that really 1367 01:38:59,725 --> 01:39:03,309 fucks me off about companies like that is, change the name of bikes. 1368 01:39:03,562 --> 01:39:06,020 Don't call a bike a Bobber because that is a style of bike. 1369 01:39:06,899 --> 01:39:08,185 And now if you Google Triumph Bobber, 1370 01:39:08,275 --> 01:39:12,234 their fucking bike comes up and you wanna see Triumph Bobbers. 1371 01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:17,650 I don't think it comes through as genuine to people in these 1372 01:39:17,701 --> 01:39:21,239 sub-cultures. I think they feel like it's a money grab and 1373 01:39:21,747 --> 01:39:24,580 it turns a lot of people off because we all got into this 1374 01:39:24,667 --> 01:39:27,830 because it was something different. You don't want to be in a parking lot 1375 01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,958 with 50 of the same bike. You want yours to stand out, 1376 01:39:31,048 --> 01:39:32,880 you want it to be yours. 1377 01:39:33,342 --> 01:39:37,131 It's really easy if you are in a scene that's really 1378 01:39:37,388 --> 01:39:41,052 quite niche and quite cool to get quite uppity when other 1379 01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:43,512 people start coming along and going 'l'll have a piece of that'. 1380 01:39:43,727 --> 01:39:46,219 And the manufacturers come on board then the brands come on board. 1381 01:39:46,522 --> 01:39:50,686 And this scene, the secret of its continued survival is evolution. 1382 01:39:51,193 --> 01:39:54,026 And to keep moving and the manufacturers coming on board 1383 01:39:54,113 --> 01:39:56,696 is part of that evolution. We should embrace it. 1384 01:39:57,157 --> 01:40:00,445 But I think it's important for manufacturers to understand 1385 01:40:00,828 --> 01:40:03,536 a new blood that is getting into the industry 1386 01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:06,872 and it going to take us forward. We know that we need to 1387 01:40:07,251 --> 01:40:11,370 stay away but be part of it without being too... 1388 01:40:12,047 --> 01:40:14,960 Now the manufacturers are taking note of this and seeing 1389 01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:17,962 what an appetite there is for custom bikes that they're 1390 01:40:18,053 --> 01:40:21,762 starting to do it themselves. Commercially, that's very sensible, 1391 01:40:22,099 --> 01:40:27,970 but there's still always going to be that appetite for there only being one. 1392 01:40:29,565 --> 01:40:32,853 You'll never see another one like it. That's pretty powerful. 1393 01:40:33,861 --> 01:40:37,980 The custom motorcycle scene has totally revolutionised the motorcycle industry. 1394 01:40:38,282 --> 01:40:42,446 The motorcycle industry was in the doldrums and sales were way down, 1395 01:40:42,703 --> 01:40:46,822 and there is no enthusiasm and new ridership is way down. 1396 01:40:47,041 --> 01:40:49,874 It's a sign that there's a big problem in the industry. 1397 01:40:50,294 --> 01:40:56,381 So the custom scene has been a life force. It's injected new life 1398 01:40:56,467 --> 01:40:59,209 into the motorcycle industry and that's really exciting. 1399 01:40:59,470 --> 01:41:04,260 What a cool place to be, to be changing the direction 1400 01:41:04,349 --> 01:41:07,387 of a many billion dollar global industry. 1401 01:41:15,277 --> 01:41:19,066 We have this official customisation programme. 1402 01:41:19,698 --> 01:41:22,656 We work with builders around the world. 1403 01:41:22,951 --> 01:41:25,238 It's one of the ways in which we can both support 1404 01:41:25,662 --> 01:41:28,199 and encourage the custom ecosystem that way. 1405 01:41:28,999 --> 01:41:32,367 Within India, Royal Enfield has been the most customised 1406 01:41:32,419 --> 01:41:34,410 motorcycle for a very long time. 1407 01:41:34,922 --> 01:41:40,167 The world of customisation allows us to maybe be seen 1408 01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:42,718 by people who wouldn't necessarily have considered our brand. 1409 01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:46,138 There's a lot more to Royal Enfield and by doing these customs, 1410 01:41:46,225 --> 01:41:49,013 we can hopefully broaden people's perception of what that is. 1411 01:41:49,770 --> 01:41:55,766 So the Sinroja brothers were an interesting coming together of things 1412 01:41:56,777 --> 01:42:00,645 quite accidentally. Rahul and Birju are Indian brothers, 1413 01:42:01,073 --> 01:42:03,314 Indian company, everybody's living in Leicester... 1414 01:42:03,951 --> 01:42:06,488 I love the story about the fact that we were Indians, 1415 01:42:06,620 --> 01:42:08,486 we grew up with these bikes, we grew up in India, 1416 01:42:08,831 --> 01:42:11,869 we were set free to do whatever we want 1417 01:42:12,292 --> 01:42:15,910 as long as it was a cool idea, they were always on board. 1418 01:42:16,547 --> 01:42:20,461 It was more like friends just handing out building bikes 1419 01:42:20,926 --> 01:42:23,213 rather than a corporate giant saying 'here's a bit of money, 1420 01:42:23,303 --> 01:42:24,919 do that, I'll see you in two months time." 1421 01:42:25,264 --> 01:42:30,634 Basically, we were approached by Adrian from Royal Enfield saying 1422 01:42:30,894 --> 01:42:35,013 would I be interested in working with them and we would be getting 1423 01:42:35,315 --> 01:42:39,934 the Interceptor to work on and obviously we jumped at the opportunity. 1424 01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:43,279 The guys at Royal Enfield have got an amazing team. 1425 01:42:44,158 --> 01:42:48,277 I'm not being paid to say this, but they're all genuinely 1426 01:42:48,495 --> 01:42:52,614 enthusiastic and interested in motorcycles. 1427 01:42:52,958 --> 01:42:56,371 We don't place a strong limitation of any sort 1428 01:42:56,420 --> 01:43:00,459 on the builder. For us, we have our motor, there in the bike. 1429 01:43:00,591 --> 01:43:03,458 That's the core of that bike, it's the motor. 1430 01:43:03,802 --> 01:43:06,385 Just keep some of the character but we're not going to tell you to 1431 01:43:07,139 --> 01:43:12,725 limit your creative vision because of some idea that makes a difference 1432 01:43:13,145 --> 01:43:16,888 because it doesn't in the end. Motorcycles are cool. 1433 01:43:17,733 --> 01:43:20,395 The cooler the motorcycle, the more people will like it. 1434 01:43:21,862 --> 01:43:23,523 Please make us a cool motorcycle. 1435 01:43:24,907 --> 01:43:29,026 With in house builds like Lock Stock, those are where we want to really 1436 01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:32,532 push the capability of the bikes to the next level. 1437 01:43:32,789 --> 01:43:37,625 This is why we bring in Harris, because they are chassis masters. 1438 01:43:38,128 --> 01:43:41,416 This has been great, yeah it's been really good. 1439 01:43:41,798 --> 01:43:45,132 It's created a lot of interest within our factory because 1440 01:43:45,344 --> 01:43:49,133 we haven't done a drag race before so, perhaps I shouldn't say this, 1441 01:43:49,181 --> 01:43:52,299 I think it's come out pretty well so we're all quite proud of it. 1442 01:43:52,684 --> 01:43:58,521 This was a competition/custom bike so it needed to look nice as well. 1443 01:44:09,826 --> 01:44:16,368 In terms of creativity, El Solitario of Spain, they're in a different league. 1444 01:44:17,376 --> 01:44:19,333 They march to the beat of a different drum. 1445 01:44:20,212 --> 01:44:24,706 They make truly amazing machines, really controversial, 1446 01:44:25,425 --> 01:44:28,713 We have a voice in the motorcycle world and 1447 01:44:29,513 --> 01:44:32,471 for good or for bad, but at least we have the right 1448 01:44:32,557 --> 01:44:35,845 to choose who we work with and with that voice, 1449 01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,636 we decide how we use it. 1450 01:44:39,231 --> 01:44:43,020 So we realised we were strong at communicating and 1451 01:44:43,110 --> 01:44:46,819 working with others so that's how the Desert Wolves were born. 1452 01:44:48,657 --> 01:44:50,989 When we first started talking about Desert Wolves, 1453 01:44:51,994 --> 01:44:54,577 everything seemed so complicated. We were so excited, 1454 01:44:54,663 --> 01:44:57,451 we couldn't believe we were going to make such a dream project. 1455 01:44:57,499 --> 01:45:03,336 It was too beautiful to be true and too difficult to be possible, 1456 01:45:03,380 --> 01:45:07,214 it seemed to us. And one thing we love at El Solitario 1457 01:45:07,259 --> 01:45:09,500 is jumping into the void. 1458 01:45:09,678 --> 01:45:15,515 When we start a project, we have to be loyal to ourselves 1459 01:45:15,642 --> 01:45:21,729 and to what El Solitario is, and brands want to work with us, 1460 01:45:22,357 --> 01:45:24,189 it's because they like what we do. 1461 01:45:24,443 --> 01:45:29,984 The motto of the Desert Wolves was collaboration. 1462 01:45:30,282 --> 01:45:33,946 It was the central axis of the adventure. 1463 01:45:34,369 --> 01:45:38,203 We wanted to do absolutely everything, from the helmets 1464 01:45:38,290 --> 01:45:41,703 to the bags, to the tents, to the motorcycles 1465 01:45:42,419 --> 01:45:45,502 When David from El Solitario approached us for his 1466 01:45:45,589 --> 01:45:48,297 Desert Wolves project, he was looking for a very cool 1467 01:45:48,342 --> 01:45:51,255 looking fabric so we wanted to develop a comfortable, 1468 01:45:51,345 --> 01:45:54,679 lightweight, protective denim that even passes the CE standard. 1469 01:45:55,182 --> 01:45:59,551 We had been flirting for a while with El Solitario. 1470 01:46:00,103 --> 01:46:03,687 He approached us to say 'we're trying to do a project 1471 01:46:03,857 --> 01:46:07,191 which is trying to show a more adventurous side of 1472 01:46:07,319 --> 01:46:10,277 a motorcycle and we think it should be a Harley'. 1473 01:46:10,447 --> 01:46:12,905 I said 'OK let's do an adventure'. 1474 01:46:13,033 --> 01:46:15,491 Of course, it's El Solitario so there's a high level 1475 01:46:15,577 --> 01:46:18,820 of abnormality. We're going to go to somewhere impossible 1476 01:46:18,914 --> 01:46:21,155 with an impossible motorcycle and impossible clothes but 1477 01:46:21,249 --> 01:46:25,243 it's going to work. Let's leave Western civilisation and get into 1478 01:46:25,462 --> 01:46:27,749 the sands of the Sahara. 1479 01:46:29,633 --> 01:46:32,842 We like their attitude because they're that embodiment rider, 1480 01:46:33,011 --> 01:46:36,129 the hooligan approach to Dakar riding. 1481 01:46:36,848 --> 01:46:40,136 Imagine for Harley Davidson to develop a scrambler programme 1482 01:46:40,769 --> 01:46:43,852 make it real, that would cost millions. 1483 01:46:44,815 --> 01:46:51,778 So we're actually a very economic way of exploring future options. 1484 01:46:52,906 --> 01:46:58,197 [MUSIC PLAYS IN BACKGROUND] 1485 01:49:29,563 --> 01:49:32,772 We've been really amazed at how well the bikes were performing 1486 01:49:32,983 --> 01:49:36,021 in the rocky terrain, harsh conditions, warm temperatures, 1487 01:49:36,736 --> 01:49:40,604 and we also know they're pretty rough riders 1488 01:49:40,991 --> 01:49:43,278 so they were giving the bikes a good beating but 1489 01:49:44,202 --> 01:49:46,990 there were no major issues, that was a good sign of confidence 1490 01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:48,536 as well in our bikes. 1491 01:49:50,500 --> 01:49:53,663 [MUSIC PLAYS IN BACKGROUND] 1492 01:51:22,300 --> 01:51:25,884 We road them home, that's unbelievable, I mean all the shit we went through, 1493 01:51:26,054 --> 01:51:29,217 yeah they survived. It was hard, it was fucking hard, 1494 01:51:29,474 --> 01:51:32,432 It was a huge adventure, a real one. It was a fucking real one. 1495 01:51:32,602 --> 01:51:34,809 And we survived ten days in the desert. 1496 01:51:35,772 --> 01:51:37,638 I never enjoy the victories when they happen, 1497 01:51:37,941 --> 01:51:40,729 I enjoy the victories afterwards, in the aftermath. 1498 01:51:40,819 --> 01:51:46,064 And even after a war, I can't, I just don't see it happening. 1499 01:51:46,241 --> 01:51:51,236 I need some... relax to be like, fuck, we did it. 1500 01:51:53,540 --> 01:51:55,952 Things can only really be sharp and on the edge 1501 01:51:56,292 --> 01:52:00,126 and cool when they're small. As soon as it gets too big, 1502 01:52:00,547 --> 01:52:03,084 it's too diluted, it's just not fresh any more 1503 01:52:03,174 --> 01:52:06,633 and that happens with everything. So yeah, the bigger it gets, 1504 01:52:07,512 --> 01:52:09,719 the blunter it gets, I guess. 1505 01:52:10,473 --> 01:52:14,091 I think that the great shame in any phenomenon 1506 01:52:14,227 --> 01:52:18,812 is when it gets rooted in itself. You can disappear up your own arse 1507 01:52:18,898 --> 01:52:22,266 in a puff of niche smoke if you're not careful. You've got to evolve. 1508 01:52:22,569 --> 01:52:25,186 Because it can't stand still. If it stands still, it will die, 1509 01:52:26,364 --> 01:52:28,230 which it nearly did in 2008. 1510 01:52:28,992 --> 01:52:31,609 Have we crested the wave? Are we on the back side of the wave? 1511 01:52:31,661 --> 01:52:34,403 Or the front side? I'm really intrigued 1512 01:52:34,497 --> 01:52:37,034 with how things will change but they will change. 1513 01:52:37,459 --> 01:52:41,794 As long as there's motorcycles on the road, there'll be custom motorcycles. 1514 01:52:42,338 --> 01:52:44,875 And I think the scene will adapt and change 1515 01:52:45,008 --> 01:52:46,498 through different kinds of trends. 1516 01:52:47,302 --> 01:52:51,637 Like many other things, social media has opened the window 1517 01:52:51,723 --> 01:52:55,387 on any niche worldwide and there's guys interested. 1518 01:52:55,810 --> 01:52:58,643 I thought it was going to do like a fucking souffle. 1519 01:52:59,105 --> 01:53:03,224 The only risk is if it goes too much, we lose the spirit, the philosophy. 1520 01:53:03,443 --> 01:53:05,525 It is tricky because I feel the same way. 1521 01:53:05,612 --> 01:53:09,480 I get scared. The bigger it gets, the bigger it's going to eat itself. 1522 01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,033 If something's really good, then everybody likes it, 1523 01:53:13,328 --> 01:53:16,161 and it gets bigger and bigger, and then becomes this 1524 01:53:16,498 --> 01:53:19,536 great big snowball careering out of control. 1525 01:53:19,751 --> 01:53:22,459 The internet speeds up evolution too quickly 1526 01:53:23,129 --> 01:53:26,588 and we should've been allowed to have 10 or 15 years 1527 01:53:26,716 --> 01:53:29,879 before it got bitten into by the big corporate companies 1528 01:53:29,969 --> 01:53:33,587 and then it becomes generic and they white wash it all and 1529 01:53:33,681 --> 01:53:36,639 it becomes a pastiche of itself. 1530 01:53:36,893 --> 01:53:40,761 You say people buy cheap motorcycles and fix them up 1531 01:53:40,814 --> 01:53:42,851 but I don't see that nearly as much as 1532 01:53:42,899 --> 01:53:45,231 I see people buying $10,000 motorcycles 1533 01:53:45,318 --> 01:53:48,481 on a credit card and you see it at things like Babes Ride Out. 1534 01:53:48,655 --> 01:53:52,444 90% of people are on a Triumph Bonneville or a Harley 883. 1535 01:53:52,784 --> 01:53:54,775 They're not on anything other than that. 1536 01:53:55,453 --> 01:53:58,195 So it's a new world in that way. 1537 01:53:58,540 --> 01:54:00,326 It's not a sub-culture any more though is it? 1538 01:54:00,583 --> 01:54:03,166 If you want to keep something super niche and to yourself, 1539 01:54:03,628 --> 01:54:04,868 fuck off and do it on your own. 1540 01:54:05,463 --> 01:54:07,921 People who are opening a restaurant or a cafe, 1541 01:54:08,007 --> 01:54:09,918 think about opening a motorcycle cafe. 1542 01:54:10,510 --> 01:54:13,502 Anybody who's got a garage and a blow torch 1543 01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,593 is now a custom bike builder. You have to remember, 1544 01:54:16,891 --> 01:54:20,384 that to build one, it's a tremendous amount of time 1545 01:54:20,478 --> 01:54:24,642 and cost for someone goes into that so I think there will 1546 01:54:24,732 --> 01:54:30,102 only ever be a certain audience for whom they have the capacity 1547 01:54:30,196 --> 01:54:32,062 to undertake those kinds of projects, 1548 01:54:32,490 --> 01:54:34,606 either as the consumer or the builder. 1549 01:54:34,951 --> 01:54:38,069 We don't want to be part of the mainstream like everyone else 1550 01:54:38,204 --> 01:54:40,662 and as soon as this custom motorcycle scene 1551 01:54:40,748 --> 01:54:44,036 that we've all been part of and loved since we were Kids, 1552 01:54:44,586 --> 01:54:48,955 becomes the cool thing, I think we're probably going to shun it. 1553 01:54:49,090 --> 01:54:52,173 Not motorcycles themselves, 'cause I'm always going to ride a motorbike 1554 01:54:52,260 --> 01:54:53,796 and I'm always going to work on my own bikes 1555 01:54:53,887 --> 01:54:55,594 and build my own bikes, and so are my friends. 1556 01:54:56,139 --> 01:54:58,471 For me, I'm just going to be in my workshop, drinking beers 1557 01:54:58,558 --> 01:55:00,890 and working on bikes really. I don't give a shit where 1558 01:55:00,977 --> 01:55:03,844 the scene goes. I'm not too worried about where it goes 1559 01:55:03,938 --> 01:55:05,269 or how it goes or how it gets there. 1560 01:55:06,024 --> 01:55:08,231 Seeing what everyone else is doing and pushing yourself 1561 01:55:08,318 --> 01:55:11,527 away while adding and pushing forward into something else, 1562 01:55:11,613 --> 01:55:15,151 is constantly racing away from that tsunami of 1563 01:55:15,241 --> 01:55:16,527 mass culture, I guess. 1564 01:55:17,410 --> 01:55:21,745 Lots of people we know who are very famous have become quite quiet. 1565 01:55:22,457 --> 01:55:25,825 We used to notice they're very hard at work and they've stepped back and 1566 01:55:25,919 --> 01:55:28,707 are thinking about what they're doing and we've seen this year 1567 01:55:28,838 --> 01:55:32,251 bike builders drop out and close their doors. 1568 01:55:32,634 --> 01:55:35,001 I think everyone's starting think, well where we going next? 1569 01:55:35,303 --> 01:55:36,668 What's coming next? What are we going to do? 1570 01:55:37,013 --> 01:55:39,926 How's this going to evolve, grow and keep on going? 1571 01:55:40,350 --> 01:55:43,843 And it will, but it's just how it's going to happen. 1572 01:55:44,354 --> 01:55:46,140 Personally, I don't have any option. 1573 01:55:46,898 --> 01:55:50,857 I don't have any training or qualifications in any other direction. 1574 01:55:51,736 --> 01:55:56,446 I don't have any fall back, there is no pension, there is no 1575 01:55:57,283 --> 01:56:01,026 whatever, social security. Nothing. So there's just 1576 01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:05,079 doing it forever. There is no plan. 1577 01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:08,708 Let's be honest, the combustion engine is not going to be around 1578 01:56:09,128 --> 01:56:14,464 for that long so let's enjoy it while we've got what we've got 1579 01:56:14,759 --> 01:56:16,545 and then when the next thing comes along, 1580 01:56:17,011 --> 01:56:20,254 let's make that great and the people who do adapt 1581 01:56:20,348 --> 01:56:24,057 are going to be the ones who will always be the trend setters, 1582 01:56:24,185 --> 01:56:26,597 or the ones who come up with exciting new ideas 1583 01:56:26,938 --> 01:56:27,928 and I'd like to be one of them. 1584 01:56:28,523 --> 01:56:30,514 I'd love to get my hands on an electric bike and try 1585 01:56:30,608 --> 01:56:32,690 customising an electric bike because I definitely think that 1586 01:56:32,777 --> 01:56:37,237 electric bikes are very close to being where we're headed. 1587 01:56:37,532 --> 01:56:42,572 Once you are understanding that today, the guy who lives in Santa Monica 1588 01:56:43,413 --> 01:56:45,324 is connected to the guy that lives in Milan, 1589 01:56:45,915 --> 01:56:49,249 and the guy who lives in Jakarta, and understand that the problems 1590 01:56:49,544 --> 01:56:52,707 we have right now facing us, they're all the same. 1591 01:56:53,214 --> 01:56:57,424 Then electric bikes or alternative vehicles, as we call them, 1592 01:56:58,052 --> 01:56:59,338 make a lot of sense. 1593 01:57:00,013 --> 01:57:02,801 Electric bikes are here and they're viable 1594 01:57:02,890 --> 01:57:04,551 and they're a lot of fun to ride because 1595 01:57:04,642 --> 01:57:06,849 they have 100% torque at ORPM. 1596 01:57:07,186 --> 01:57:09,177 That's a recipe for Yee ha! 1597 01:57:09,939 --> 01:57:12,146 I would like to see more customisers embrace 1598 01:57:12,650 --> 01:57:15,062 electric bikes and think about other things. 1599 01:57:15,528 --> 01:57:17,895 Try something new. If you're taking this much time and 1600 01:57:17,989 --> 01:57:20,697 energy into it, let's make a real impact 1601 01:57:21,325 --> 01:57:24,317 on the industry and not just a style impact, 1602 01:57:24,787 --> 01:57:27,028 maybe there's room for an engineering impact too. 1603 01:57:46,350 --> 01:57:49,593 To be honest, I'm quite intrigued with electric vehicles. 1604 01:57:49,771 --> 01:57:51,728 I've been studying them a little while now 1605 01:57:52,398 --> 01:57:53,809 and they do interest me. 1606 01:57:53,941 --> 01:57:57,184 The silent revolution... and it's going to sneak up on us 1607 01:57:57,278 --> 01:57:58,985 and we're not going to be aware of it but it's going to 1608 01:57:59,072 --> 01:58:01,939 suddenly take over and I'm all for it. I think it's great. 1609 01:58:02,158 --> 01:58:05,651 That means we can ride stealth and we can ride free 1610 01:58:05,828 --> 01:58:08,490 without having the Cops On our ass. 1611 01:58:09,540 --> 01:58:13,499 You're going to go to jail if they catch you with a motorcycle 1612 01:58:13,711 --> 01:58:16,544 in the forest but on an electric one, they can't catch you 1613 01:58:17,715 --> 01:58:18,921 because they can't hear you. 1614 01:58:19,926 --> 01:58:22,042 It's kind of the shitty thing about human beings, right. 1615 01:58:23,805 --> 01:58:27,298 The know change is necessary but you give them ten steps of 1616 01:58:27,725 --> 01:58:29,807 how to change things and they're all painful 1617 01:58:29,936 --> 01:58:32,803 things to address, nobody is going to fucking do it. 1618 01:58:33,231 --> 01:58:36,474 So if you give them something that's easy and understandable 1619 01:58:36,567 --> 01:58:39,025 and exciting, then change is imminent, you know. 1620 01:58:39,529 --> 01:58:41,770 We have all these manufacturers building bikes, 1621 01:58:42,198 --> 01:58:44,439 watching people lose riding spaces, 1622 01:58:44,534 --> 01:58:46,741 watching people lose access to tracks, 1623 01:58:47,537 --> 01:58:48,823 and nobody's doing anything about it. 1624 01:58:48,913 --> 01:58:53,498 But they're iterating on technology to the tiniest percentage 1625 01:58:53,626 --> 01:58:57,460 to sell you a new bike, but they're not addressing the need 1626 01:58:57,547 --> 01:59:02,007 for an electric power train or a quiet bike or the ability to 1627 01:59:02,510 --> 01:59:05,969 reconfigure your investment in a way that makes it sustainable 1628 01:59:06,055 --> 01:59:08,217 or OK for the modern world. 1629 01:59:08,724 --> 01:59:11,011 Sooner or later there's going to be a mainstream 1630 01:59:11,394 --> 01:59:14,978 electric motorbike that's going to have all the boxes ticked 1631 01:59:15,064 --> 01:59:18,648 and everyone will be like 'yves, I get it now, 1632 01:59:18,776 --> 01:59:20,687 makes sense, I want one of those!" 1633 01:59:21,279 --> 01:59:25,364 It may not replace their garage full of stinky two strokes 1634 01:59:25,533 --> 01:59:29,572 but if it can stand on its own two wheels... 1635 01:59:30,705 --> 01:59:33,493 Anyway, you want to be future-proof, in a way as well. 1636 01:59:33,749 --> 01:59:37,333 It's interesting if you look at a product that we've done like Live Wire, 1637 01:59:37,712 --> 01:59:41,421 which is our first electric Harley. If you have the opportunity to ride 1638 01:59:41,507 --> 01:59:45,171 a Live Wire, you'll have a blast. It's good fun to ride, 1639 01:59:45,386 --> 01:59:48,253 very futuristic and it does add to the emotional 1640 01:59:49,182 --> 01:59:50,388 experience on the bike. 1641 01:59:50,474 --> 01:59:52,681 The only thing restricting electric bikes at the moment 1642 01:59:52,768 --> 01:59:56,432 is the stigma attached to it. There's a new technology there. 1643 01:59:56,856 --> 02:00:00,850 The world's changing and you can embrace that or not, 1644 02:00:00,985 --> 02:00:05,024 but those that embrace it will be producing some fantastic bikes 1645 02:00:06,032 --> 02:00:07,864 that won't have an internal combustion engine. 1646 02:00:08,159 --> 02:00:10,526 The biggest thing was the potential behind them. 1647 02:00:10,745 --> 02:00:13,703 What can we build here? We don't have to adhere by 1648 02:00:13,789 --> 02:00:15,496 any of the things that we have to worry about. 1649 02:00:15,791 --> 02:00:18,408 I can chuck away the rule book. I don't have to worry about exhausts, 1650 02:00:18,544 --> 02:00:21,957 heat, vibration, fuel, oil, nothing. 1651 02:00:22,131 --> 02:00:27,217 It's a really interesting prospect and that's what I'm looking forward to 1652 02:00:27,303 --> 02:00:28,759 from a customising point of view. 1653 02:00:29,472 --> 02:00:35,889 Right now, this question of what is next, the notion of 1654 02:00:35,978 --> 02:00:38,345 a true motorcycle for the 21st century, 1655 02:00:38,981 --> 02:00:42,599 which I haven't seen, which doesn't exist. 1656 02:00:43,611 --> 02:00:48,026 And I want to be there to see it, to ride it, 1657 02:00:48,699 --> 02:00:54,411 and maybe even to make it and that's a real powerful idea 1658 02:00:54,497 --> 02:00:58,991 and something that... my hair just stood on end thinking about it. 1659 02:00:59,627 --> 02:01:04,212 [MUSIC PLAYS IN BACKGROUND] 160487

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