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Dear Jane, in the advertising leaflet
which accompanies Tuva Bien to the
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festivals of Venice, Carthage, New York
and San Francisco, we preferred using a
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photograph of you in Vietnam instead of
photographs from the film.
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We found this photograph in an issue of
L'Express early in August 1972, and we
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think it will enable us to talk in a
more concrete way about the problems
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raised by Tuva Bien.
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This is not a way of changing the
subject.
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nor is it a way of not talking about to
Vabien, as if we were afraid of talking
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about the film, not by any means.
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It is a way of not marking time, like
the perpetuous troops at Quang Tri,
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which eventually leads to stepping on
others, as with the shells of the 7th
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Fleet on Quang Tri.
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Actually, this is a way of making a
detour, but if we dare say so, a direct
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detour. In other words, a detour...
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which will enable us to run directly
into the treacherous little problems
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that the film we made together at the
beginning of this year is concerned
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with. And rather than talk right away
about the qualities and faults of our
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film, from one end to the other, we
prefer to ask critics, journalists, and
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spectators to kindly make the effort of
analyzing this photograph of you in
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Vietnam, which was taken a few months
after the film we did in Paris.
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As a matter of fact, this photograph and
the short text that appeared with it
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does a better job of summing up to
Fabien than we could.
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And for a very simple reason.
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This photograph answers the same
question that the film is asking.
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What part should intellectuals play in
the revolution?
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To this question, the photograph gives a
practical answer.
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The answer it gives is its practice.
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This photograph shows you, yes, you,
Jane, serving the Vietnamese people's
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struggle for independence.
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To Fabien provides an answer to this
question, too, but not in the same way.
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Because less certain than the photograph
of the answers to be given, the film
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asks other questions first.
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And finally, these questions amount to
not asking the questions of
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intellectuals and the revolution in that
way.
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How can this question be raised, then?
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The film does not answer yet exactly.
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But the way in which it does not answer
yet is actually an indirect way of
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asking new questions.
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Because there is no use in giving old
answers to the new questions that are
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being raised by the development of
revolutionary struggles today.
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One must learn how to ask these new
questions.
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And learn from those who, even if they
haven't had enough time to formulate
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these questions clearly yet, have
already taken possession of the ground
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where they will be able to grow and
flourish.
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And they have accomplished this by
inventing new forms of practical action.
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We're telling you that our way of not
really giving an answer yet, like the
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Vietnamese and you in the photograph,
was actually an indirect way of asking
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new questions. An indirect way. A
deviated way.
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Now you can understand why we had to
make a detour before talking about the
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film. And why it had to be a detour
through Vietnam.
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First of all, because everyone agrees
about the fact that some really new
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questions are being raised over there.
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And secondly, because you were with them
after having been with us.
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As we were looking at this photograph of
an actress on the theater of military
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operations, that's what made us want to
ask some questions. Not to the actress,
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but to the photograph.
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And for us... This means asking a
certain number of new questions about
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the classical answer that the Vietnamese
and you have given to the well-known
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question of the intellectuals by
publishing this photograph.
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There is something else that has
influenced our decision to take
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advantage of this photograph in order to
make a detour through Vietnam.
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This something is our desire to have a
real discussion about the film with the
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spectators, journalists or not.
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Everyone is his own journalist or
editor, depending on how he changes his
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own concrete day-to-day activity into a
film, making himself the star of this
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film. And it is precisely this kind of
little star system that we want to talk
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about, to talk about with the audience.
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But in order to do so, we must make a
detour, because just as a film is a kind
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of detour, that leads us back to
ourselves.
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In order to get back to the film, we
must first make this detour into
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ourselves.
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And here, in the USA today, ourselves
still and always means Vietnam.
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We'll try to explain a little further.
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We think that it's important and urgent
to really speak to those who have taken
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the trouble to come and see our film.
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Really means right where they are, and
also right where we are.
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And so we must find a way to enable them
to really ask questions if they feel
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like it, or give answers to the
questions we have asked.
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The spectator must be able to really
think, and think, first of all, about
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this problem of questions and answers.
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We must be able to be really upset by
the spectator's questions or answers,
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and to answer or ask questions, other
than with ready-made answers or
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questions to ready-made questions or
answers.
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But were they made by whom? For whom?
Against whom?
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This means that in order to have a real
possibility of discussing 2 Verbier,
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we're going to place ourselves outside
of 2 Verbier. To talk about the machine,
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we're going outside of the factory that
uses it. We're going to find our basis
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for discussion outside of the world of
cinema in order to have a better view of
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it when we return.
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in order to set out in a better way
toward the real problems of our real
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concrete life, of which the cinema will
have been only one of the elements.
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We're not going to leave or abandon Thu
Viet Bia. We're going to go away from
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it, on the contrary, to go somewhere
else, to Vietnam, for example, since you
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have come back from there. But what is
important is that we're going to travel
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there by our own means.
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What sort of means are we talking about?
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The technical means we work with and the
way we use them socially.
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You in the photograph from Vietnam and
we in the film in Paris.
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And we will be in a better position to
evaluate this use.
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And for once, we will not be alone.
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The spectator will be there too.
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He will be a producer at the same time
he is a consumer.
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And we will be consumers at the same
time we are producers.
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Perhaps all this seems complicated to
you.
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As Vertov said to Lenin, the fact is
that truth is simple, but that it's not
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simple to tell the truth.
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And Uncle Bertolt had come up with five
difficulties for telling the truth back
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in his time.
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Okay, we will explain that another way.
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Today one often hears people say that
cinema should serve the people.
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Fine. Rather than talk theoretically
about the faults and the virtues of Tuva
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Bien, we are going to Vietnam.
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But we are going there by and with the
means of Tuva Bien.
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We are going to see, if one may use the
expression that way, how Thu Va Bien is
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working in Vietnam.
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And then, from this practical example,
we eventually will be able to draw a few
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conclusions about what to do and what
not to do, each of us right where he is,
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with his wife, his boss, his children,
his money, his desires, etc.
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We are going to use this photograph then
to go and seek an answer to the
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following question in Vietnam.
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How can cinema help the Vietnamese
people win their independence?
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And as we have already said several
times, we are not the only ones who have
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used this photograph to go to Vietnam.
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Thousands of people have already done
so.
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Probably almost everyone here has
already seen this photograph.
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And for a few seconds, each in his own
way has used it to go to Vietnam.
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That is precisely what we think is
important to know.
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How each one has used this photograph to
go to Vietnam.
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In actual fact, how he has gone to
Vietnam.
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Because Dr. Kissinger goes to Vietnam
too, several times a year.
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And it's precisely someone like Dr.
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Kissinger who is going to ask us, why
this photograph?
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And what connection this photograph has
with Thu Va Bien?
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And he and his friends will tell us that
we're mixing things up or just playing
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around, that we would be better off
getting down to some serious talk about
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the film, about art, etc.
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But one must make the effort to see how
this kind of remark contradicts itself
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when it is made that way, thus confusing
the whole issue and blocking access to
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other questions of a more simple nature,
simple as might be asked by ordinary
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folks. For instance, before saying what
connection, one must first ask, is there
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any connection?
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And if so, then one may ask which one.
And then, having discovered which
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connection, we will discover a little
further on that the connection between
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our film and this photograph is in the
problem of expression.
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We will eventually be able to judge how
important it is, which means making
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other connections with other important
questions and other important answers.
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People will say that all this seems like
empty words, but already at the other
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end of this new little assembly line of
questions, the questions of what is
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important, that which are called the
questions of practical results, is
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beginning to look like an extremely
important question.
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And this is because the North Vietnamese
Vietcong Collective has already answered
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the question of whether or not this
photograph is important by succeeding in
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having it published in just about every
corner of the free world.
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the same free world that is holding them
in chains.
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And it has shown what importance it gave
to this photograph, the importance it
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gave to the questions of practical
results, the importance that it gave to
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the question of what is important.
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This photograph is therefore a practical
answer that the North Vietnamese have
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decided to give with your help, Jane, to
the well-known question we asked
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earlier, what part should cinema play in
the development of revolutionary
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struggles?
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Or, in other words, how should
intellectuals take part in the
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revolution?
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The photograph gives a practical answer
to this question, the answer for whole
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people. The photograph has been taken
and published, and it has been taken in
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a certain way, to make sure that it
would be published, both on the right
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and on the left. And this is what has
happened, obviously, otherwise we would
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not have obtained it.
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Tu vas bien answers this question too.
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but from somewhere else, and in another
way. A way, in fact, of not being too
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quick to give this kind of answer.
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A way that is a means of saying, here in
France, where we are, in 1972, ruled by
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the friends of the Americans and the
Russians, everything is not so clear.
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Everything is not so obvious.
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Fidel Castro said at the UN that for
revolutionaries, there are never any
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obvious truths.
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That they are an invention of
imperialism.
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and that those who are big use obvious
truth cleverly to oppress those who are
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small. And since everything is not
obvious, Jane, let us continue asking
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ourselves questions.
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But let us make an effort to ask them
differently.
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In other words, let us ask new questions
in order to be able to give new answers.
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For example, let us observe how the
Vietnamese express their struggle.
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Let us ask ourselves some questions,
since we wish to express our struggle
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too. And first, let us ask ourselves
honestly what makes us able to say that
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we are really struggling.
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But at this point, perhaps you, Jane,
will ask us. Why this photograph of me
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and not one of Ramsey Clark, for
example? He was in Vietnam too, and he
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also witnessed the bombing of the dykes.
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Simply, Jane, because of Tout va bien
and because your social rank in the film
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was the same as in this photograph.
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You're an actress.
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We're all actors in this stage of
history, yes.
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But what's more, you work in films and
so do we.
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Then why not Yves Montand in Chile, you
could say?
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He was also in the movie, true.
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But it so happens...
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that the Chilean revolutionaries, the
mere, did not judge that it would be a
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good thing to publish photographs of
Eve.
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Whereas the Vietnamese revolutionary did
judge, with your agreement, that it
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would be a good thing to publish
photographs of you. In fact, to publish
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photographs of your agreement with the
Vietnamese travel.
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There is another problem, too, and one
that we can't avoid.
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We are both men who have made Tuva Bien,
and you are a woman.
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In Vietnam, the question is not put that
way, but here it is.
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And as a woman, you undoubtedly will be
hurt a little or a lot by the fact that
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we are going to criticize a little or a
lot your way of acting in these
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photographs. Hurt because once again, as
usual, men are finding ways to attack
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women. If for no other reason, we hope
that you will be able to come and answer
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our letter by talking with us as we go
reading it in two or three places in the
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U.S.
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In the U.S. and in Europe, it's true
that things are still or have already
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become that way.
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And we are as you, submerged in some
pretty troubled water, through which
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this photograph can help us to see
clearly.
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This is where we have to start from.
From you in the U.S., from us in Paris,
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from you and us in Paris, from you in
Vietnam, from us in Paris, looking at
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you in Vietnam.
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from us going to the U.S., and from
everyone here in the theater listening
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to us and looking at you.
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We are starting from all this.
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It is organized in a certain way and
functions in a certain way.
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We want to discuss it all, starting from
there.
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To start from Thu Va Bien, to go to
Vietnam, to come back to Thu Va Bien, in
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other words, to come back to Vietnam in
the theater where Thu Va Bien is being
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shown, and afterward to go back home.
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and tomorrow to go back to the factory.
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In order to discuss all that, we are
slipping this photograph under people's
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noses for a second look, since the
Vietnamese and you already slipped it
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there once.
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In other words, we ask, and we are
asking ourselves, did we really look at
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this photograph?
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What did we see in it? And beneath its
question, we discover another question.
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For example, how did we look at this
photograph?
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How did our eyes function in regard to
this photograph?
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And what makes them glance that way
instead of another?
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And still another question, what makes
our voice interpret this glance in a
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certain way instead of another?
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To Vabien asks all of these questions.
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These questions can all be summed up in
the big question of the role of the
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intellectuals in the revolutionary
struggles.
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Or rather, this big well-known question
about intellectuals. One begins to see
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that... By expressing itself in that
way, it becomes paralyzing, and that it
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paralyzes others. And finally, that it
is no longer a question belonging to the
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revolution. Today's questions about the
revolution, as we will discover in
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relation to the photograph, then in
relation to the film, should be, how to
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change the old world?
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And one can see right away that the old
world of a Viet Cong is not the same as
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the old world of a Western intellectual.
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That the old world of a Palestinian is
not the same as that of a black child
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from Harlem.
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That the old world of a worker from the
Renault factory is not the same as that
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of his girlfriend.
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One can see that this photograph gives a
practical answer to the question of
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changing the old world.
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And therefore, we're going to examine
this photographic answer.
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We're going to make an investigation.
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We're going to look for some clues.
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We're going to analyze and put them
together.
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We will try to explain the organization
of these elements that make up this
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photograph. On the one hand, we will
explain things as if we were dealing
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with a photographic molecular structure.
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And on the other hand, as if we were
dealing with a kind of social nerve
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cell. Then, we will try to show the
connection between the scientific
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investigation and the more political
one.
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Where do the right ideas come from? From
the struggle for production, from the
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class struggle, and from scientific
experimentation?
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In making this investigation,
questioning this photograph, we're doing
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nothing other than trying to find out
how the answer that this photograph
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gives was produced in the context of the
struggle in Vietnam.
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Then we will see if the answer is
entirely satisfactory for everyone, for
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whom, against whom, and if perhaps other
questions won't start cropping up, just
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those that Tout va bien somehow or other
manages to raise.
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For example, as far as an important part
of the photograph is concerned, the
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actress's expression, the relation
between the eyes and the mouth, in
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Western Europe, in our opinion, one
cannot be satisfied with it for the same
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reasons as its authors those who took
the photograph or decided that it should
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be taken the north vietnam vietnam
collective and this at first seems
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absolutely normal the context being
different but then one ought to inquire
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as thoroughly as they do into what has
conditioned this idea of what is normal
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in saying this we are not doing as most
of the communist party and their allies
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in the western world the Pope, the UN,
the Red Cross, who say simply, let us
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help Vietnam toward peace.
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Saying what we have said, on the
contrary, is saying something much more
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precise. For example, let us help the
North Vietnamese-South Vietnam alliance
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make its own peace.
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And even more precise, since Vietnam...
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in changing its whole world, helps us
change our own, how can we really help
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Vietnam in return?
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And since the Viet Cong North Vietnam
Collective is struggling, criticizing
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and transforming Southeast Asia, how can
we struggle in our context for changing
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Europe and America?
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Of course, all this takes a little
longer to say than just peace in
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Vietnam. And it necessitates doing
things more thoroughly than just
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creating two or three Vietnams.
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And that's why Marx, in the preface to
the first edition of Capital, was asking
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for readers who were not afraid of
minute details, in order to overthrow
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the king of hell and free all the
smaller devils.
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Faced with this photograph a few months
ago by Eugene and the Vietnamese, and
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now by us again, each person can, if he
is willing, make his own investigation.
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Then we will be free to compare the
results, and we will be able to speak.
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without taking the desire to speak away
from those who are listening.
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Perhaps we will be able, just for a
moment, to say a little less nonsense
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about ourselves and the revolution.
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And one more thing, so that you won't
feel attacked personally, although we
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can't really avoid it. We feel the
question is badly put, but we hope that
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by the end of this letter things will be
a little clearer.
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And that's why we really need you to
come and answer us directly.
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Because we're writing to you not only as
authors of Tuvebia, but also because we
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have been looking at this photograph.
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And you must admit, it is the first time
anyone who has seen a photograph of you
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in a magazine writes to you about it
this way.
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So that you won't feel like our chosen
victim, as they say. And so that you'll
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understand that we're not aiming at
Jane, but at a function of Jane.
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When questioning this photograph, we
will refer to you in the third person.
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We won't say Jane has done such and
such. We'll say the actress or the
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militant, just by the way as in the text
which accompanies the photograph.
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In our opinion, these are the principal
elements or elements of elements
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that play an important part in this
photograph which appeared in the French
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magazine L'Express at the beginning of
August 72.
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Elementary elements.
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This photograph was taken at the request
of the North Vietnamese government,
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representing on this occasion the
revolutionary alliance between the
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people of South Vietnam and the people
of North Vietnam.
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This photograph was taken by Joseph
Kraft, who is described beneath the
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photograph in a text which was not
written by those who were responsible
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for taking the photograph, but by those
who have published it. In other words, a
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text composed by several writers from
L'Express who had not made any contact
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with the North Vietnamese delegation in
France.
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We checked that.
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The text describes him as one of the
most well-known and most moderate
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American journalists.
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It also says that the actress is a
devoted militant for peace in Vietnam.
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But the text doesn't mention the
Vietnamese people in the photograph.
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For example, the text does not tell us
that the Vietnamese who cannot be seen
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in the background is one of the least
known and least moderate of the
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Vietnamese people.
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This photograph, like any photograph, is
physically mute.
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It talks through the mouth of the text
written beneath it.
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This text does not emphasize, does not
repeat, because the photograph speaks
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and says things in its own way. The fact
that the militant is in the foreground
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and Vietnam is in the background.
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The text says that Jane Fonda is
questioning the people of Hanoi.
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But the magazine does not publish the
questions asked, nor the answers given
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by the representatives of the Vietnamese
people in these photographs.
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In fact, the text should not describe
the photograph as Jane Fonda
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questioning, but as Jane Fonda
listening.
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This much is obvious, and perhaps the
moment only lasted 1 250th of a second,
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but that is the 250th.
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that has been recorded and sent
throughout the Western world.
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Being written this way, the text is
probably trying to tell us that the
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photograph was taken at random during a
discussion where the actress militant
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was actually questioning the people of
Hanoi, and therefore we shouldn't pay
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any attention to the detail of her mouth
being closed.
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But we will see a little further on that
it is not a question of chance, or
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rather, even if it is chance, the chance
is then exploited according to the
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logical necessity of capitalism the
necessity for capital to disguise what
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is real at the same time it reveals it
in other words the necessity of tricking
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the customer about the product less
elementary elements less elementary
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elements the camera took this photograph
from a low angle actually in the history
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of cinema this low point of view cannot
be considered an innocent one.
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This fact has been emphasized
technically and socially by Orson Welles
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in his first pictures.
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The choice of frame is not neutral or
innocent either.
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The frame is composed in relation to the
actress who is looking rather than in
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relation to what she is looking at.
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She is presented in the frame as if she
were the star and that in fact is
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because the actress is an
internationally known star.
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So on the one hand, the frame shows a
star in a militant activity, and on the
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other, it focuses on the militant as a
star, which is not the same thing.
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Or rather, which might be the same thing
in Vietnam, but not in Europe or in the
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US.
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The following page shows photographs of
what the militant saw at other moments,
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but not what she was looking at in this
photograph.
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As far as we're concerned, these are the
same type of pictures that now flew
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automatically through the channels of TV
and newspaper publications in the free
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world. Pictures that we have seen
hundreds of thousands of times, as many
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as there have been bombs.
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And that don't change anything, except
for those who are struggling to organize
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this flow in a certain way, their way,
the seven points of the GRP.
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The truth is, if these photographs had
been presented by some Miss Jones or
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Smith within the same newspapers, we'd
have refused them as too ordinary.
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Ordinary, one must admit, just as it has
become a very ordinary thing for an
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agricultural community situated just
outside of Hanoi to rebuild its
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schoolhouse for the 20th time, after the
phantoms of Kissinger have destroyed it.
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But of course, No one is going to talk
about this extraordinary, ordinary fact.
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Neither the militant being given star
treatment, nor the express.
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Neither will anything be said about what
the American actress and her sisters,
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the Vietnamese actresses that one can
see in the photographs on the next page,
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have said to each other.
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Did the American actress ask about
acting in Vietnam?
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Or how someone who acts in Hollywood can
act in Hanoi knowing he must return to
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Hollywood? Express doesn't mention
anything about all that, and we think
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this is because the American actress
doesn't talk about it either.
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It's true that the militant talked about
the anti-personal bombs and the dykes,
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but one must not forget that the
militant is also an actress, whereas the
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Russell Tribunal and Ramsey Clark, for
example, are not.
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We think that one must realize that
because she's an actress, the officials
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in the White House will have no
difficulty if no one tries to stop them,
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saying that the actress has more or less
unconsciously played into the enemy's
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hand, and that she is just reciting a
text that she has learned by heart.
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Such criticism can easily destroy all
the efforts of the actress and the
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militant. and one must understand why
she remains vulnerable to this kind of
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attack.
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We think in this case it is because the
actress militant did not refer to the
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dykes by using an example such as that
of a Vietnamese actress who works to
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fill in the holes in the dykes and then
acts in a theatrical representation in
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the village that is threatened by the
breakings of the dykes.
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In relation to this, We believe that if
the militant considered herself, first
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of all, as an actress, as the Vietnamese
were making use of her due on their
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level, she could begin to play her part
historically, otherwise than in
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Hollywood. Perhaps the Vietnamese do not
have a direct need for this yet, but
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Americans probably do, and therefore,
indirectly, the Vietnamese do too.
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Once again, we find the necessity of
making a detour.
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The Vietnamese are obliged to make a
detour through the USA.
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In this photograph, in this reflection
of reality, two people are seen facing
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the camera.
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The others, they are back turned.
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Of the two people, one is in sharp focus
and the other is not.
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In this photograph, the famous American
is sharp and clear and the anonymous
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Vietnamese is blurry and unclear.
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But in reality, it is the American left
that is blurry and out of focus.
423
00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:35,900
and the vietnamese left that is
exceptionally sharp and clear in reality
424
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:41,140
it is also the american right that is
always exceptionally sharp while the
425
00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:46,860
vietnamese right the vietnamization is
becoming less and less clear what should
426
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:51,240
we think then of the moderation of
joseph craft who took a moderate view of
427
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,720
his contradiction set the lens opening
and measured the focal distance
428
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:01,000
accordingly it was all carefully
measured as we have seen in relation to
429
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,340
his choice of frame, and he
intentionally set the focus on the star
430
00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:10,100
in militant activities in order to
obtain a certain product, a certain
431
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:15,140
ideological merchandise, and once more
with a deliberate aim in mind.
432
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:20,880
Let's not forget that the processing of
this product is directly controlled by
433
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,580
North Vietnam, but its distribution
outside of Vietnam is not, or rather it
434
00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:30,960
is but in a very indirect way, not to
mention the feedback.
435
00:29:31,780 --> 00:29:36,980
This distribution is controlled by the
TV networks and newspapers of the free
436
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:41,720
world, and so we see that one of the
moves necessary to complete this act of
437
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,260
communication cannot be made by those
who have planned it. Which move?
438
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,840
Or is it a move in some kind of a game?
And who has the right to play?
439
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800
And who plays for whom, against whom?
440
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,020
At this point we find, and we will come
back to it again later, that in
441
00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:03,460
examining the relationship between what
seems sharp and what does not, in
442
00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:07,560
relation to the two faces in the
photograph, we have discovered something
443
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,560
quite unusual.
444
00:30:08,980 --> 00:30:14,000
The face out of focus is sharp and
clear, and the sharp and clear face is
445
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,340
vague and out of focus.
446
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,620
The Vietnamese can stand being viewed
out of focus.
447
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Because he has been in sharp focus for a
long time in his everyday reality, the
448
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560
American is obliged to appear in sharp
focus.
449
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,920
Because the Vietnamese way of remaining
clearly out of focus makes this
450
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,100
inevitable. The American is obliged to
focus clearly on his real lack of
451
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,100
clarity.
452
00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:41,060
But nothing of that thought is said in
the text.
453
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,010
The general effect of this photograph
emphasize that of another photograph of
454
00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:50,050
the actress on the cover of the same
issue of Lexpress.
455
00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:55,890
This cover composition is very revealing
if one is willing to see that a
456
00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:59,290
photograph can cover up just as much as
it reveals.
457
00:30:59,510 --> 00:31:02,790
A photograph imposes silence as it
speaks.
458
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:08,500
In our opinion, This is one of the
working principles of the two-faced form
459
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:14,100
Jekyll and Hyde, principle and interest,
that information deformation takes on
460
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:20,120
when it is transmitted by images and
sound in our epoch, which is that of the
461
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,880
decline of imperialism and of the
general tendency toward revolution.
462
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:30,140
The American left says that the tragedy
is not in Vietnam, but in the U.S.
463
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:35,600
The facial expression of the militant in
this photograph is, in fact, that of a
464
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,600
tragic actress.
465
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,620
But a tragic actress with a particular
social and technical background, formed
466
00:31:42,620 --> 00:31:46,100
and deformed by the Hollywood school of
Stanislavski and Shobis.
467
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,660
The militant's expression was the same
in the third reel of Two Verbien when,
468
00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:55,400
as an actress, she was listening to one
of the film extras singing a text
469
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,860
written by Lothar Continu.
470
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,220
The actress also had this expression in
Clout.
471
00:32:00,670 --> 00:32:05,430
As she looked at her friend, a policeman
played by Donald Sutherland, with a
472
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:09,830
tragic sense of pity on her face, and
made up her mind to spend the night with
473
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:14,710
him. We can find this same expression
already in the 1940s, used by Henry
474
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:21,650
Fonda to portray an exploited worker in
the future fascist Steinbeck's Grapes of
475
00:32:21,650 --> 00:32:26,670
Wrath. And even further back in the
actress's paternal history within the
476
00:32:26,670 --> 00:32:27,670
history of cinema.
477
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,280
It was still the same expression that
Henry Fonda used to cast a profound and
478
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000
tragic look on the black people in Young
Mr.
479
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,940
Lincoln, made by the future Honorable
Admiral of the Navy John Ford. One can
480
00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:45,080
also find this expression on the
opposite side as John Wayne expresses
481
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,720
his deep regrets about the devastation
of the war in Vietnam in the Green
482
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,040
Beret. In our opinion, this expression
has been borrowed, principle and
483
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,260
interest. from the free trade mask of
roosevelt's new deal in fact it's an
484
00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:05,040
expression of an expression and it
appeared inevitably by chance just as
485
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:10,480
the talkies were becoming a financial
success this expression talks but only
486
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,000
to say how much it knows about stock
market crush for example but it says
487
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,860
nothing more than how much it knows
that's why in our opinion this
488
00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:24,000
rooseveltian expression is technically
different from those that have preceded
489
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,310
it in the history of cinema, the
expression of silent screen stars,
490
00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:31,490
Lillian Gish, Valentino, Falconetti,
etc.
491
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:36,450
Just make the experiment and have these
faces look at a photograph of U.S.
492
00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:37,450
crimes in Vietnam.
493
00:33:37,870 --> 00:33:42,530
Not one will have the same expression,
although all of them have the same
494
00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:43,530
knowing look.
495
00:34:09,419 --> 00:34:12,480
equals editing of IC.
496
00:34:13,340 --> 00:34:19,060
This is because before the talkies,
silent films had a materially starting
497
00:34:19,060 --> 00:34:23,580
point. The actor said, I am filmed.
498
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:30,219
Therefore I think, at least I think of
the fact that I am being filmed.
499
00:34:30,739 --> 00:34:33,460
It's because I exist that I think.
500
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,030
After the talkies, There was a new deal
between the matter being filmed, the
501
00:34:40,030 --> 00:34:41,570
actor, and thought.
502
00:34:42,370 --> 00:34:48,969
The actor began saying, I think that I
am an actor, therefore
503
00:34:48,969 --> 00:34:51,070
I am filmed.
504
00:34:51,429 --> 00:34:57,950
It is because I think that I am. I
think, therefore I am. As we have just
505
00:34:57,950 --> 00:35:02,990
seen in this experiment, which
elaborates Kuleshov's, before the new
506
00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:04,110
deal expressed itself.
507
00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:10,590
Each star of the silent screen had his
own individual expression, and the wide
508
00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:13,730
popularity of silent movies was a real
fact.
509
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:20,570
On the contrary, as soon as films begin
to talk like the New Deal, each actor
510
00:35:20,570 --> 00:35:22,570
begins to speak the same thing.
511
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:27,490
Just make the same experiment with any
big star from the world of cinema,
512
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:28,950
sports or politics.
513
00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:36,260
I think therefore I am. I think
therefore I am. I think therefore I am.
514
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,140
I think therefore I am.
515
00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:42,280
I think therefore I am. I think
therefore I am.
516
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,880
This expression that says it knows a lot
about things, this expression that says
517
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,700
it knows a lot about things, that says
no more and no less, is an expression
518
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:59,380
that doesn't help one to see more
clearly.
519
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,520
into one's personal problem, to see how
Vietnam can shed some light on them, for
520
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:10,160
example. So why be satisfied with it and
say, it's better than nothing, something
521
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,420
gets across a little, as in the Union
speech in 2 Verbien, Reel 3, or in the
522
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:17,580
CP speech in 2 Verbien, Reel 5?
523
00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:23,080
And why, even if the actress is not
capable of acting differently yet, and
524
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,620
even if we are not yet as able to help
her...
525
00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:29,270
to help her act differently as we would
like to be.
526
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:34,790
Why should the Vietnamese be satisfied
with it? In our opinion, we risk doing
527
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:40,550
them more harm than good by producing a
good conscience for ourselves in such a
528
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:41,550
cheap way.
529
00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:45,730
Scientifically speaking, the movement
from life to information is cheap.
530
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:52,110
After all, this expression is also
addressed to us, we who are making an
531
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:53,870
effort to look at it a second time.
532
00:36:54,490 --> 00:37:00,230
These eyes and these mouths are not
saying anything to us, and for us, they
533
00:37:00,230 --> 00:37:04,510
are filling themselves with emptiness,
like those of the Czechoslovakian
534
00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:08,790
children in front of the Russian tanks,
or the swollen little bellies from
535
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:13,990
Biafra or Bangladesh, or the Palestinian
feet carefully looked after in the mud
536
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:19,150
by the UN, full of emptiness, full of
empty meanings, but watch out only for
537
00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:20,150
capitalism.
538
00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:25,710
Because capitalism knows how to fuck
things up and fill the real eyes of its
539
00:37:25,710 --> 00:37:30,710
future enemies with emptiness, forcing
them to look nowhere.
540
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:36,010
How can one fight against this
situation?
541
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:39,830
Not by banning the publication of this
kind of photograph.
542
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:44,770
One would have to stop all these TV and
radio programs in practically every
543
00:37:44,770 --> 00:37:49,230
country in the world, as well as the
publication of practically every form of
544
00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:50,230
newspaper.
545
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,640
which would be utopian.
546
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,260
No. But one could publish them
differently.
547
00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:59,860
And it is in relation to this
difference, because of their financial
548
00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:05,260
and cultural influence, that the stars
can play an important role. A very heavy
549
00:38:05,260 --> 00:38:06,260
role, as they say.
550
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,020
And the real tragedy is that they don't
know how to play this heavy role.
551
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,020
How can one learn to play it?
552
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,180
Many questions must still be asked in
Europe.
553
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:20,600
and in the United States before one can
answer clearly.
554
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:26,360
We are asking a few into that, as Marx
did in his day by taking German ideology
555
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:32,120
and raising the question of the misery
of philosophy against Proudhon, who only
556
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,520
knew how to philosophize about misery.
557
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:40,020
If one looks carefully at the Vietnamese
behind the actress, one realizes very
558
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:45,200
quickly that his face is expressing
something entirely different than that
559
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,420
of the American militant.
560
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,660
But even if one can't see what he's
looking at, one can see that his face
561
00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:54,460
reflects what he must face every day.
562
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,120
Entire personal bombs, broken dykes, and
the torn bodies of dead women.
563
00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:06,040
A house which must be rebuilt for the
nth time, the hospital, and a lesson to
564
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,019
be learned.
565
00:39:07,020 --> 00:39:09,840
Lenin said, first lesson, learn.
566
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,960
Second lesson, learn. Third lesson,
learn.
567
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,920
And this face...
568
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,980
immediately reflects a day-to-day
struggle for a very simple reason.
569
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,120
It's not just the face of a
revolutionary, but of a Vietnamese
570
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,140
revolutionary. A long past of struggling
has been written on this face by French,
571
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:34,280
Japanese, and American imperialism. In
fact, this face has been recognized for
572
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:39,040
a long time now throughout the world as
the face of revolution, even by his
573
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,700
enemies. Let's not be afraid of words.
574
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:47,160
This is a face that has already won the
independence of its own code of
575
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:52,700
communication. Today, no other
revolutionary face reflects as much
576
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:57,840
daily struggle as this, simply because
no other revolution, except the Chinese,
577
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,420
has made as long a march as the
Vietnamese revolution.
578
00:40:02,020 --> 00:40:03,420
Let's make the experiment.
579
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,520
This black man, for example.
580
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,200
We cannot say right away why he is
struggling, or where, and how.
581
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,120
In Detroit, on the assembly line of the
Chrysler Corporation, for better wages
582
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,400
and a slightly slower work rate.
583
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,680
In Johannesburg, to have the right to
enter a movie house where white people
584
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,360
are showing white people's film.
585
00:40:25,460 --> 00:40:26,660
And this worker.
586
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,680
And this European girl.
587
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,340
And this Arab.
588
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:32,880
And this young radical.
589
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:38,220
As Uncle Bertolt said, one must have the
courage to say that we have nothing to
590
00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:39,240
say about these faces.
591
00:40:39,850 --> 00:40:44,370
unless there is a caption with some sort
of nonsense or lies that we can swallow.
592
00:40:44,690 --> 00:40:49,790
And one must have the courage to admit
one's weakness and failure, for one has
593
00:40:49,790 --> 00:40:50,790
nothing to say.
594
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:55,710
This Vietnamese face, on the contrary,
needs no words written underneath.
595
00:40:56,710 --> 00:41:01,090
Anywhere in the world, people will say,
this man is Vietnamese, and the
596
00:41:01,090 --> 00:41:04,270
Vietnamese people are fighting to kick
America out of Asia.
597
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:06,950
Let's look on the other hand.
598
00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:11,930
at the face of the american actress
without the rest of the photograph what
599
00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:16,330
can see right away that it doesn't
reflect anything or rather that it only
600
00:41:16,330 --> 00:41:22,030
reflects itself but a self that is
nowhere lost in the infinite immensity
601
00:41:22,030 --> 00:41:27,810
and immortal tenderness of a pieta by
michelangelo a woman's face that does
602
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:32,430
not reflect other women a vietnamese
face was a function reflecting reality
603
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:37,600
Whereas the American's face is a
function that only reflects a function.
604
00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:42,900
A face that could also belong to a
hippie needing a fix. To a student in
605
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:48,840
Eugene, Oregon, whose favorite runner,
Pree Fontaine, just lost the Olympic 5
606
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,840
,000 meters.
607
00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:53,500
To a young girl in love who has just
been dropped by a boyfriend.
608
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:56,040
And also to a militant in Vietnam.
609
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,520
It's too much. There is too much
information in too small an element of
610
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,520
space and time.
611
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,560
At the same time, we are sure that the
militant is thinking of Vietnam, and not
612
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,940
sure at all, because she might be
thinking of something entirely
613
00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:11,680
different, as we have suggested.
614
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,060
Therefore, we must eventually ask the
question, why is this photograph of a
615
00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:21,640
militant actress, who is not necessarily
thinking of Vietnam, being published,
616
00:42:21,820 --> 00:42:27,520
precisely in place of that of an actress
militant, who is necessarily thinking of
617
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Vietnam?
618
00:42:28,620 --> 00:42:33,970
Because the true reality of this
photograph... lies in just this, a star
619
00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:39,510
disguise unveiled by the absence of Max
Factor. But L'Express doesn't say
620
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:44,290
anything about this, because that would
be starting the revolution in
621
00:42:44,290 --> 00:42:48,930
journalism. It would be the beginning of
revolution to say in Europe and in the
622
00:42:48,930 --> 00:42:54,290
US that today it is not possible to take
a photograph of someone thinking of
623
00:42:54,290 --> 00:43:00,190
something. Vietnam, fucking Ford Motors,
factories, sand on the seashore, etc.
624
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,140
Perhaps people will say that we should
not have isolated this part of the
625
00:43:05,140 --> 00:43:08,620
picture from the rest, since it was
published as part of a whole.
626
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:11,540
But we think this is a very bad
argument.
627
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,680
We have isolated this part to show that
it already stands alone in fact, and the
628
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,640
tragedy is in this solitude.
629
00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:24,680
If we have been able to separate this
face from the rest of the picture, it is
630
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,340
because the face lends itself to this
separation.
631
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,860
Whereas the Vietnamese face, on the
contrary, remains a part of its
632
00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:35,800
surroundings, even if we try to look at
it alone.
633
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,620
It has a definite reverse shot.
634
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,680
On the contrary, here, there is no
reverse shot possible.
635
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,900
No reverse shot.
636
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:51,600
In France, we are very familiar with the
expression used by the actress in this
637
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,240
picture. It's a working model of
Cartesian thought process.
638
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:01,500
I think, therefore I am, the same that
inspired the statue of the thinker by
639
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:06,400
Rodin. Why not carry this statue around
wherever there is a catastrophe in the
640
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,420
world, to inspire the crowds with a
feeling of pity?
641
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,160
The swindle of capitalist art and
humanism would be exposed immediately.
642
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,060
One must realize that stars are not
allowed to think.
643
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,460
They are only social functions.
644
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:23,420
They are thought, and they make you
think.
645
00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:30,000
One just as to look at the acting of big
thinkers like Marlo Brando or any other
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00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,000
motherfuckers to understand why capital
needs this sort of art to reinforce the
647
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,760
strength of idealistic philosophy in its
fight.
648
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:45,040
Against the materialist philosophy of
Marx, Engels, Lenin and Mao who
649
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,220
represent their peoples.
650
00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:50,340
We've said that we are able to isolate
on the contrary.
651
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,360
The face of the American actress.
652
00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:56,240
Now we are going to isolate the
expression on the contrary in this
653
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,000
sentence. Isolate, separate.
654
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,740
Lenin said that a revolutionary kind of
separation is needed to fight against
655
00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:07,060
the way capitalism separates workers
into isolated categories.
656
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:11,960
The face of the American militant and
that of the North Vietnamese are
657
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:17,320
opposites. The struggle of opposites is
precisely what is happening in the
658
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,360
imaginary reality of this image.
659
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,760
The American eye in Vietnam is satisfied
with just reading the word horror.
660
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:29,580
The Vietnamese eye sees the reality of
America in all its horror.
661
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,220
In this scene, the Vietnamese just
appears in the background like a film
662
00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:38,940
extra. But behind him, we can already
feel the force of the astonishing,
663
00:45:39,220 --> 00:45:43,160
incredible machine built by the North
Vietnam Vietcong Collective.
664
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,800
And standing behind the star, we can
still sense the vile, deadly capitalist
665
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:55,140
machine. looking full of cynical
humility and limpid confusion, as
666
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:57,780
Lelouch said in Adventure is Adventure.
667
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:03,820
In all of this we find a struggle
between what still is and what already
668
00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:06,120
is, a fight between the old and the new.
669
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,180
A struggle which does not limit itself
to the taking of this picture, but is
670
00:46:12,180 --> 00:46:17,400
perpetuated by the way it has been
published and by the fact that people in
671
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,470
this theater are looking at it at this
very moment, a struggle between the
672
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:27,290
process of making a product and the
process of its distribution, depending
673
00:46:27,290 --> 00:46:31,070
on who controlled the process, capital,
or revolution.
674
00:46:31,870 --> 00:46:33,710
Other elements of elements.
675
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:39,910
The North Vietnamese are right in taking
the risk of publishing this picture. Or
676
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:42,490
rather, they have their reasons for
doing so.
677
00:46:42,990 --> 00:46:47,330
This picture plays the part of a small
screw in the mechanism that has been
678
00:46:47,330 --> 00:46:50,510
conceived for developing their current
military diplomatic offensive.
679
00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:56,830
This picture is one of the thousands
that the Vietnamese have given with
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00:46:56,830 --> 00:46:59,370
their blood in answer to U.S. war
crimes.
681
00:47:00,370 --> 00:47:04,870
You may have noticed, by the way, Jane,
that the Viet Cong North Vietnam
682
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:10,050
Collective often publishes documents of
their struggles, but seldom of
683
00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:14,850
atrocities. In this case, the North
Vietnamese government has answered on
684
00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:19,290
behalf of its people and specifically
representing the Committee for
685
00:47:19,290 --> 00:47:23,770
Friendship with the American People by
calling on the services of Jen Fonda,
686
00:47:23,950 --> 00:47:26,750
which means asking her to play a certain
part.
687
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:31,990
Unlike what many Americans would have
done, the American actress accepted to
688
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:36,810
go to Vietnam and play this part. She
went to Hanoi to help the Vietnamese
689
00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:37,810
revolution.
690
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:44,720
Now one must ask the question, How does
she help? Or more precisely, how does
691
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:45,720
she play this part?
692
00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:50,480
The American actress at work in this
picture is helping the Vietnamese people
693
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,920
in their struggle for independence.
694
00:47:52,420 --> 00:47:57,560
But she's not only helping in Vietnam,
but particularly in the US and in
695
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Europe, too, since the picture has come
to us in France as well.
696
00:48:02,260 --> 00:48:08,200
As we look at the picture here, then, we
are freely obliged to ask, does this
697
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,200
picture help us?
698
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,240
And above all, does it help us to help
Vietnam?
699
00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:15,680
Vietnam forces us to ask this question.
700
00:48:16,260 --> 00:48:20,260
Putting together some elements, or some
elements of elements.
701
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:25,560
Neither Lexpress nor the American
militant have made the distinction
702
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,220
between Jane Fonda speaking, asking
questions, and Jane Fonda listening.
703
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:35,560
For the Vietnamese, in the present
historical stage of their struggle, the
704
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,810
most important fact about this picture
is... that Jane Fonda is in it.
705
00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:45,410
And in our opinion, it doesn't matter
much for them whether she is speaking or
706
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:48,430
listening, because the silence is just
as effective.
707
00:48:48,850 --> 00:48:51,490
The important thing is that she is
there.
708
00:48:52,110 --> 00:48:57,490
But here in 1972, the most important
thing is not necessarily the same.
709
00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:00,870
We must learn what determines this
necessarily.
710
00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:05,790
We couldn't help observing that the text
beneath the picture was lying.
711
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:09,830
when it said that the actress was
speaking to the inhabitants of Hanoi,
712
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:13,930
since the picture plainly showed that
the militant was listening.
713
00:49:14,450 --> 00:49:18,990
And since we need the contradictory
truth of this picture, and not its
714
00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:24,150
eternal truth, it is also important for
us to make the observation that L
715
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:25,870
'Express is lying on every level.
716
00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:31,030
But we must also add that if the
magazine is able to lie, it is because
717
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:32,530
the picture makes it possible.
718
00:49:33,070 --> 00:49:35,310
Actually, L'Express takes advantage of.
719
00:49:35,690 --> 00:49:40,490
profits by the implicit authorization of
the picture to hide the fact that the
720
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:41,510
militant is listening.
721
00:49:42,190 --> 00:49:45,790
By saying that she is speaking and
speaking about peace in Vietnam,
722
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:50,870
Lexpress is able to avoid saying what
peace, leaving this up to the picture
723
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:54,710
alone, as if the picture said precisely
what sort of peace was involved.
724
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:58,190
We have proved, however, that this is
not the case.
725
00:49:58,470 --> 00:50:03,250
But if Lexpress can do this, it is
probably because the American actress
726
00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:07,710
does not express her struggle as a
militant by saying anything other than
727
00:50:07,710 --> 00:50:13,170
peace in Vietnam, and because she does
not ask herself exactly what peace, and
728
00:50:13,170 --> 00:50:15,450
particularly what peace in America.
729
00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:21,030
And if she doesn't ask herself this yet,
or is not able to, it is not because she
730
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:24,870
still acts as an actress, as not as a
militant, but on the contrary.
731
00:50:25,370 --> 00:50:29,910
Because as a militant, she doesn't ask
herself questions yet about what new
732
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:34,450
approach or style might be applied to
her function as an actress, both
733
00:50:34,450 --> 00:50:35,650
technically and socially.
734
00:50:35,870 --> 00:50:41,250
In other words, she doesn't consider a
militant activity as an actress, even
735
00:50:41,250 --> 00:50:45,370
though the North Vietnamese invited her
precisely as a militant actress.
736
00:50:46,090 --> 00:50:52,210
And she's talking from somewhere other
than where she really is, in America.
737
00:50:52,830 --> 00:50:57,810
which is what interests the Vietnamese
most of all. This is why she also covers
738
00:50:57,810 --> 00:51:02,310
up the fact that the most important fact
about this picture is listening,
739
00:51:02,430 --> 00:51:05,090
listening to Vietnam before talking
about it.
740
00:51:05,370 --> 00:51:10,170
Whereas at the same time, Nixon,
Kissinger, and the big barrel of Stale
741
00:51:10,170 --> 00:51:14,470
Porter are not listening to anything or
refusing to listen to anything of the
742
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:15,470
Paris talks.
743
00:51:15,490 --> 00:51:18,670
We must be able to examine this
masquerade.
744
00:51:19,550 --> 00:51:24,690
An unmasking Nixon hypocrisy does not
mean saying, peace in Vietnam.
745
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:27,990
Because he says it too, and so does
Brezhnev.
746
00:51:28,270 --> 00:51:30,870
One must say the opposite of what he
says.
747
00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:35,390
One must say, I'm listening to the
Vietnamese, who are going to tell me
748
00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:37,490
what sort of peace they want in their
country.
749
00:51:37,690 --> 00:51:42,650
And one must say, as an American, I'll
keep my mouth shut, because I admit I
750
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:47,570
have got nothing to say about this. The
Vietnamese must say what they want, and
751
00:51:47,570 --> 00:51:48,570
I have to listen.
752
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,680
and then do whatever they say because
they are not a part of Southeast Asia.
753
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,020
The rest is just masquerade.
71952
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