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There was something was pulling me...
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Up the mountain.
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Chris would come back from the
grave, just to protect him.
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I really don't know what it was.
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I can't explain it.
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And I said, nobody's gonna
believe, what's happening.
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She'd had premonitions before.
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But this was so real.
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Whoa!
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She died on impact.
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We'd been visiting family in Sacramento.
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I just sat up in bed and had this thing
inside me that I needed to go home.
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And I needed to go home then.
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I just felt like there was something...
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Pulling me up mountain.
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We jumped in the car, we drove...
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It was late.
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We're on Highway 50.
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I don't like traveling the
mountain at night time.
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It's uh..
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Really a windy and twisty road.
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You can go off the road.
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I was looking out the window.
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And as we were going around Bullion Bend...
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On the side of the road I see
this blackish white thing.
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And I didn't know what it was.
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And when I was right up on it,
I could tell it was a woman.
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She was naked, totally
naked, and really white.
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I know that I saw her on that road.
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I have two kids, Christine was the oldest.
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Christine was very bubbly, very
outgoing, very independent.
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Chris a little boy, Nick.
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She a mother that every
boy would love to have.
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One, two three... Woo!
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Chris was really ambitious.
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She worked a couple of jobs to
put herself through college.
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And when she finally graduated,
she um, got a job as a paralegal.
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600 miles away, down in
Southern California.
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- You guys have fun, huh?
- Alright I really gotta go.
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Finally the time came
when she had to leave.
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Okay, have fun.
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It was kind of sad, to see them going...
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But was a happy time, because she had
what she worked for, for so hard.
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- I'll see you guys later.
- Okay. Bye.
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See ya.
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Chris said she would call
us in a couple days, and...
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We said, okay, no problem.
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Wednesday morning, we got a
call from a friend of Chris.
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Hello.
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She said, hey, Chris isn't here.
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She was supposed to be here,
don't you guy's care.
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I said, "what are you talking about?"
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She supposed to be on her way
down to Southern California.
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And she goes, well, she was
supposed be here Monday.
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And here it's Wednesday morning.
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Yes, yes, I'm trying to
track down my daughter.
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Then you know we started uh,
getting a little worried.
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They could be anywhere.
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I'm wondering if you have a record...
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We called the hospitals.
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We called the Police Department.
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Yeah, I'd like to report
a missing person...
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Uh, the response was...
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Well, that's only 48 hours, and we
get 200 calls like that a week.
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They um, more or less said well
she'll show up, don't worry about it.
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The first time I heard about this case,
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I was working for the Eldorado
County Sheriff's Department.
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And my assignment at the
time was working patrol.
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Graveyard patrol shift.
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We've got a missing person.
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We got a adult female,
traveling with a young boy.
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Unknown direction of travel.
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The case with Christine
initially was just...
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A mother and her son who were
moving to Southern California.
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Family has no idea where they went.
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There's people reported
missing all the time.
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You know every day,
through out this country.
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Also got an assault with a knife.
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There was nothing out of the ordinary.
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I thought it was just another...
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I hate to say it, but a routine
missing persons report.
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It was like, okay, what do we do now?
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We were handing out fliers.
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And we went to everyplace.
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Where there was a restaurant, a home,
gas station, shopping markets.
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We told people that our daughter's
been missing for 3 days.
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And if they had seen her...
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Please call us.
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We were at home when the phone rang, and
it was my Sister-in-law 600 miles away.
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- Hi, Karen.
- Dave, I just had an awful dream...
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She called, was kinda, frantic.
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And said he had a dream.
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It was dark, there was lights...
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She could see Nicki.
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Some lights, she said.
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No, Christine wasn't in
it, it was just Nicki.
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And the number 16 kept
popping up over and over.
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It was like 2 or 3 times I kept
seeing number this number 16.
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She kept seeing the number 16 popping up.
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At the time I didn't know what 16 meant.
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Just try and stay calm.
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The dream was vivid enough
that she believed in it.
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Yeah, but I have to come down to see you.
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She had premonitions before,
but this was so real,
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she knew that she was going to find them.
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On Friday I was approached by the Detective
that had been assigned to this case.
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And he suspected that perhaps she
has stopped at one of the...
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The all night 24 hour gas stations
in Placerville to fill up her car.
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There was I believe 4 gas stations in
this immediate area we were looking for.
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And I began asking them if
they had any recollection,
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um, of seeing this girl, this vehicle.
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If anything sounded familiar
or similar to them.
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I remember going to the gas
station station in Placerville.
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And I specifically recall
going in, and the clerk...
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Um, he was a younger guy that worked there.
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- They were in this area 2 or3 days ago.
- Yeah, yeah, I remember of seeing them.
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- You saw them?
- Yes.
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- He remembered her.
- When?
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Um, 3 days ago.
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He recalled the car, he remembered
a little boy was with her.
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The son just waited in the car.
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He didn't know the license plate
he didn't know if it matched.
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But the girl, the picture
that was on the flier.
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Seemed to resemble the girl that he
remembered having a conversation with.
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- They were in this area 2 or3 days ago.
- Yeah, yeah, I remember of seeing them.
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- You saw them?
- Yes.
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He remembered her, he recalled the car,
he remembered a little boy was with her.
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Hello, how are you tonight?
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He said that she bought a couple sodas,
and they had some small talk...
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- Where you off to?
- I'm going to California. For a new job.
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And he remembers her
saying she's really tired,
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but she's got to make the drive, she's
going to go up and see a friend.
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You know, and having to make
that drive up Highway 50.
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He remembered specifically
two things in particular...
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Her being tired.
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And her having to drive through
these winding mountain roads,
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to go up there to go see a friend.
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Thanks.
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All kinds of things entered my mind...
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She could have been involved in a accident,
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she could have driven off the road,
she could have had car trouble and...
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And somebody else could have
you know stopped to help her,
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and ended up taking her and the car.
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We were concerned that maybe
did she get in to an accident?
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Did she meet with some foul play?
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I mean any number of things
could have happened.
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We'd been visiting family in Sacramento.
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And uh, around 2am I woke my
husband up and told him...
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I needed to go home.
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I eventually started shaking him awake.
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- We have to go.
- What?
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- We need to go home.
- We can't just go tomorrow?
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And he was saying, can't
we wait until tomorrow?
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I said no. I want to go now.
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- What's the matter?
- I don't know.
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I needed to leave right now.
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Normally I would have just
went back to sleep, but...
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I just kept bothering him
until he finally said "okay".
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Okay, we'll go.
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I just felt like there was something...
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Pulling me up the mountain.
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When you drive from Sacramento to Lake
Tahoe, it turns in to the mountains.
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We're on Highway 50.
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It was odd because...
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I don't like traveling the
mountain at night time.
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It's uh, really windy and twisty road.
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You can go off the road.
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I was looking out the window.
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And as we were going around Bullion Bend...
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On the side of the road I see
this blackish white thing.
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And I didn't know what it was.
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And when I was right up on it
I could tell it was a woman.
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She was naked, totally
naked and really white
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I could see her body, and could
see that it was a woman...
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But I could not see her shadow.
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I just saw a dead woman
on the side of the road.
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What? What?
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- Do you want me to stop?
- No. No.
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- My husband wanted to stop.
- Are you sure, we can go back.
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And he said he was going to go back
because he could probably help her.
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What if she wasn't dead, and I told him no.
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I didn't want to go back.
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She may be a ploy...
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You know what if somebody
was in the woods waiting...
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To come out and then take our
car, or take us with the car.
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Or kill us.
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I asked him to please,
find the nearest phone.
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There's a phone right there.
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We drove on about another quarter mile.
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There's a ranger station
up on the mountain.
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And I called 911.
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Hi I'd like to uh...
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Report a body on the side of the road.
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They told me somebody would there and
to get in the truck and lock the door.
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We sat in the car and we waited,
which seemed like hours.
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Which was probably just minutes.
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The cop car pulled up.
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And I jumped out of the car and I told him,
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that I had seen a naked lady
on the side of the road.
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And she was really white and
I thought she was dead.
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Get in the car, I'll follow you.
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The officer told me...
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Take us there, but stay back 200 yards.
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We pulled out of the
parking lot and we drove.
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And then I said Nicki this is it
there's Bullion Bend up ahead.
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He had a big spotlight and he was looking.
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And then he came back
down and told me that uh,
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they hadn't found anything,
and that we should go home.
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I then told my husband that I
didn't think that they believed me.
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And that they thought I was crazy.
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And they probably just stopped the search.
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But I know that I saw her on that road.
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- Hey, guys.
- Hi. How's it going?
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Not bad.
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Later in the shift that night
I met up with the officers,
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that had gone up to the call
that Deborah Hoyt made.
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What's going on with Bullion Bend?
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We were speculating, I mean
maybe she's imagining it.
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Uh, maybe it's a practical joke.
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Okay so was she... Was she nuts? I mean...
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No, no, no. She was very convincing,
like she saw something.
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They believed her it wasn't like they
dismissed her as being a whack-job but...
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They believed her.
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We got in the house, and I just
laid on my bed and kept crying.
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I kept trying to go to sleep, but...
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She kept popping in my head.
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The vision of her just kept popping
in my head and when it did...
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I would wake up and cry.
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I got a call to go back to
the Sheriff's Department.
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I met with the aunt and
uncle of Christine Skubish.
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Who just spent all night driving up to
Placerville to from Southern California.
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Okay well we want to help, where can we go?
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They were concerned
obviously for Christine,
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and for Nicki because nobody
had seen or heard from them.
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And they indicated to me that they
wanted start their own search.
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Highway 50, okay we're gonna go there now.
242
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I recommended that they get some rest.
They were both very tired.
243
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Get some sleep and start
fresh when the sun is up.
244
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As I was talking to them I was
becoming more suspicious,
245
00:18:02,031 --> 00:18:05,974
that there could be some connection
between this naked woman...
246
00:18:05,975 --> 00:18:09,035
And Christine Skubish.
247
00:18:10,002 --> 00:18:13,277
I just had a sixth sense.
248
00:18:13,278 --> 00:18:19,178
I thought I'm going to go up in
to that area and search myself.
249
00:18:28,381 --> 00:18:33,481
I was desperate to find
her, along with my wife.
250
00:18:34,254 --> 00:18:40,154
As the time was ticking on we started
getting more and more worried.
251
00:18:40,649 --> 00:18:44,553
We knew that something had happened.
252
00:18:44,554 --> 00:18:47,914
But we didn't know what.
253
00:18:57,434 --> 00:19:03,334
As I drove up there, obviously the
sun is rising it's getting brighter.
254
00:19:04,305 --> 00:19:06,363
I approached the Bullion Bend area.
255
00:19:06,364 --> 00:19:08,558
This is the area that Deborah
Hoyt had told the officers,
256
00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:12,579
where she'd seen this naked woman.
257
00:19:13,781 --> 00:19:17,585
I was looking for anything
that was out of the ordinary.
258
00:19:17,586 --> 00:19:20,904
It could have been debris on the roadway
that ordinarily wouldn't be there.
259
00:19:20,905 --> 00:19:24,316
It could be skid marks off
the side of the road.
260
00:19:24,317 --> 00:19:27,349
Anything that isn't
ordinarily on the Highway.
261
00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:31,300
I was going to stop and investigate.
262
00:19:31,301 --> 00:19:37,201
Once I got in to the Bullion
Bend area I slowed my car down.
263
00:19:44,976 --> 00:19:50,876
I saw a small tennis shoe, like a
child's tennis shoe on the road.
264
00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:54,107
I'm thinking what are the odds
that this is Nicki's shoe.
265
00:19:54,108 --> 00:19:57,482
I mean this is exactly the
location that I had been told,
266
00:19:57,483 --> 00:20:03,123
Deborah Hoyt said she saw a
naked woman on the shoulder.
267
00:20:28,410 --> 00:20:34,310
I could look down and actually see
that this was a very steep drop off.
268
00:20:35,020 --> 00:20:38,699
And there was you know big pine
trees all intermingled there.
269
00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:44,107
And as I'm looking down I
started to see um, debris.
270
00:20:44,108 --> 00:20:47,948
That's when I saw the red car.
271
00:20:51,690 --> 00:20:55,839
The whole roof had been
peeled back on this car.
272
00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,740
And so the entire top part of the
car was missing, it was gone.
273
00:21:18,180 --> 00:21:23,520
I came around to see if
there was anybody in there.
274
00:21:32,450 --> 00:21:38,350
I realized at that point that this
in fact was Christine Skubish.
275
00:21:39,010 --> 00:21:43,690
I reached and I tried to feel for a pulse.
276
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,578
At that point I knew the she...
277
00:21:48,579 --> 00:21:51,879
She had died. She was deceased.
278
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,617
What bothered me the most about this
um, not seeing Christine like that.
279
00:21:57,618 --> 00:22:01,098
But looking across the car.
280
00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:08,130
That's what really got me.
281
00:22:09,210 --> 00:22:15,110
He had basically the look of death.
He didn't have any life, looking at him.
282
00:22:18,948 --> 00:22:24,848
I took my light, and I shined my light in
his eyes to see if there was any reaction.
283
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:37,610
And I saw no reaction, no pupil change...
284
00:22:37,780 --> 00:22:39,798
I didn't feel a pulse.
285
00:22:39,799 --> 00:22:43,879
I believed that Niki too, was dead.
286
00:22:49,398 --> 00:22:53,586
And then I noticed that his chest, as
he's laying his chest rose a little bit.
287
00:22:53,587 --> 00:22:56,385
Like he took a breath.
288
00:22:56,386 --> 00:22:58,939
And I thought my mind was
playing tricks on me.
289
00:22:58,940 --> 00:23:02,287
I thought I was seeing things.
290
00:23:02,288 --> 00:23:08,188
And then I got down close and I could
actually feel shallow breaths.
291
00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:10,841
I said... "My God, he's alive."
292
00:23:10,842 --> 00:23:13,738
Nicki, stay with me.
293
00:23:13,739 --> 00:23:15,651
Immediately got on the radio.
294
00:23:15,652 --> 00:23:18,173
I need an EMT down here
as soon as possible!
295
00:23:18,174 --> 00:23:22,378
I tried to hold his hand, I said, Nicki,
if you can hear me, squeeze my hand.
296
00:23:22,379 --> 00:23:24,139
Stay with me.
297
00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:26,581
I tried to get him to interact with me.
298
00:23:26,582 --> 00:23:28,596
Um, I just continued to repeat his name.
299
00:23:28,597 --> 00:23:33,637
Stay with me.
I told him you're gonna be okay.
300
00:23:34,290 --> 00:23:39,429
Then other deputy's showed up and I
called them down to where I was.
301
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:42,699
I told them who Nicki was and I said
you've gotta stay here with him.
302
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:46,329
Um, you know I'm afraid
the family's coming.
303
00:23:46,330 --> 00:23:52,230
I didn't want them to see the
condition of Christine or Nicki.
304
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:56,312
And sure enough Karen arrived.
305
00:23:56,313 --> 00:23:58,319
Stay back please. Nicki's okay.
306
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,400
And I had to put up my hands and say, stop.
307
00:24:00,401 --> 00:24:02,706
- Stay back! Stay back!
- Christine!
308
00:24:02,707 --> 00:24:05,344
I kinda held Karen, and I looked
her in the face and I told her,
309
00:24:05,345 --> 00:24:08,872
car's down here, I found
both Christine and Nicki...
310
00:24:08,873 --> 00:24:11,450
Watch your step. Watch your step. Careful.
311
00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:15,411
Then I had to tell her, I said Christine
didn't make it Christine died...
312
00:24:15,412 --> 00:24:19,007
- No!
- It's okay. It's okay.
313
00:24:19,008 --> 00:24:23,815
- Oh my God, Christine!
- It's okay, it's going to be alright!
314
00:24:23,816 --> 00:24:26,756
But Nicki is alive.
315
00:24:30,379 --> 00:24:32,604
- Let's get you home buddy.
- Alright everybody ready?
316
00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:34,825
1,2,3...
317
00:24:35,310 --> 00:24:37,218
It's okay, Nicki!
318
00:24:37,219 --> 00:24:41,064
Let's get you home safe. Come on buddy.
319
00:24:41,065 --> 00:24:44,236
The firefighters, the paramedics,
they did all the treatments,
320
00:24:44,237 --> 00:24:47,151
the neck support everything, and
put him on a flat backboard,
321
00:24:47,152 --> 00:24:52,912
to get him out of there and
load him in to an ambulance.
322
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:57,299
We got the phone call.
323
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:00,720
They found Chris and Nick.
324
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,463
And my wife kept saying...
Well how are they, are they okay?
325
00:25:08,464 --> 00:25:11,704
And I had to tell her.
326
00:25:19,522 --> 00:25:21,682
Brenda...
327
00:25:21,946 --> 00:25:24,526
Chris is dead.
328
00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:30,356
Earlier today, police responded
to a fatal accident car.
329
00:25:30,357 --> 00:25:33,570
My mother came to tell me I
needed see something on TV.
330
00:25:33,571 --> 00:25:38,381
23 year old Christine Skubish and his
son Nicki went missing 5 days ago.
331
00:25:38,382 --> 00:25:42,461
Their car was found in a ravine, Christine
was pronounced dead at the scene.
332
00:25:42,462 --> 00:25:46,717
I looked up, and saw the woman that
I had saw on the side of the road.
333
00:25:46,718 --> 00:25:51,176
Remarkably, Nicki survived for
five days without food or water.
334
00:25:51,177 --> 00:25:54,012
She had the same soft face.
335
00:25:54,013 --> 00:25:56,974
And if you could imagine her eyes closed...
336
00:25:56,975 --> 00:26:00,335
That would have been her.
337
00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:05,658
The woman that Deborah Hoyt saw,
could not be seen Christine Skubish.
338
00:26:05,659 --> 00:26:08,523
Because the night that
Deborah Hoyt saw this woman,
339
00:26:08,524 --> 00:26:13,744
Christine Skubish had already
been dead for 5 days.
340
00:26:39,805 --> 00:26:43,405
The Coroner's report indicated
that death was immediate.
341
00:26:43,406 --> 00:26:47,006
And that she died on impact.
342
00:26:47,114 --> 00:26:48,981
Christine Skubish never
took off her clothes.
343
00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,897
Never climbed up the hill, never
laid on the side of the road.
344
00:26:51,898 --> 00:26:55,762
Never went back down and got re-dressed
and put herself back in the the car.
345
00:26:55,763 --> 00:26:58,800
None of that happened.
346
00:26:58,801 --> 00:27:01,854
She was laying dead in that car for 5 days.
347
00:27:01,855 --> 00:27:07,755
Before Deborah Hoyt ever saw
anybody on the side of the road.
348
00:27:18,049 --> 00:27:21,389
When I walked in to the room,
um, I could see him there and,
349
00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:24,641
he was trying to hold his hands out.
Hi Papa.
350
00:27:24,642 --> 00:27:28,302
- Papa!
- Nicki, look at you!
351
00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:31,167
Man, he was pale.
352
00:27:31,168 --> 00:27:33,508
Uh, skinny.
353
00:27:33,733 --> 00:27:37,933
Uh, but he had a smile on his face.
354
00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:41,459
I walked over there and not
grabbed him hard or tight.
355
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:46,020
But just held him as gently, like a baby.
356
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,480
And it's like we were happy.
357
00:27:54,481 --> 00:28:00,381
Although we lost our daughter we were
happy that Nicki was still there.
358
00:28:01,670 --> 00:28:06,794
Roughly about seventeen years have
passed, since the accident happened.
359
00:28:06,795 --> 00:28:12,695
Uh, most things I do remember, there's
lots of flashes, mostly pictures.
360
00:28:13,064 --> 00:28:16,064
They are very vivid.
361
00:28:18,595 --> 00:28:24,399
The earliest ones I do remember being in
my grandparents' house with my mother.
362
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,300
I remember them having a conversation, I
don't exactly know what it was about.
363
00:28:35,229 --> 00:28:37,887
That's about the earliest memory I have.
364
00:28:37,888 --> 00:28:43,788
Um, the closest memory that occurs after
that is of the accident its self.
365
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,360
I remember tumbling down the hill.
366
00:28:52,043 --> 00:28:57,943
It was just tree, after tree, we
were just hitting them head on.
367
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:09,000
I just remember waking up and being in
the passenger seat next to my mother.
368
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,781
I remember not knowing what to think.
369
00:29:12,782 --> 00:29:15,889
Looking at my mom and just kind
of thinking she was asleep.
370
00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:18,975
I didn't think anything more than that.
371
00:29:18,976 --> 00:29:22,636
At least not that I remember.
372
00:29:29,902 --> 00:29:33,202
I remember seeing lights.
373
00:29:37,052 --> 00:29:39,359
But I just remember that something there,
374
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,389
there was something right next to the
car the entire time next to my mom
375
00:29:43,390 --> 00:29:47,689
I have a very distinct and vivid
picture of it in my head.
376
00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:52,910
I mean, it was just a light,
it was a big light.
377
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,957
And then through the back
window of the car itself,
378
00:29:56,958 --> 00:30:02,178
I could also see the same
thing next to the road.
379
00:30:05,962 --> 00:30:09,262
And it had a silhouette.
380
00:30:14,805 --> 00:30:20,705
There was no specific features but
I saw a lighted outline of a body.
381
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,870
It was never something that scared me.
382
00:30:28,871 --> 00:30:33,371
And I didn't feel afraid when I saw it.
383
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:44,860
Two weeks later, Brenda and I
decided to the crash site to see...
384
00:30:45,112 --> 00:30:51,012
If there was anything else that was left
down there behind that were Chris's.
385
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,480
We wanted to make sure that we
got everything out of there.
386
00:30:58,688 --> 00:31:04,588
And as I got out of the car
there was a little mile marker.
387
00:31:05,504 --> 00:31:09,116
That said uh, 16 miles
pointing to Placerville.
388
00:31:09,117 --> 00:31:12,684
Then I knew that my sister didn't
have a dream, it was premonition.
389
00:31:12,685 --> 00:31:15,134
The number 16 kept popping up.
390
00:31:15,135 --> 00:31:21,035
And it all started making sense,
as I started adding the pieces.
391
00:31:21,055 --> 00:31:23,273
When you put all the pieces
of the puzzle together,
392
00:31:23,274 --> 00:31:27,474
you take the dream that my aunt had.
393
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,056
The apparition sighting
that Deborah Hoyt did see.
394
00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:32,969
I just saw a dead woman
on the side of the road.
395
00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:38,010
And the lights that I did
see around the car...
396
00:31:38,289 --> 00:31:41,799
It had to have been an Angel.
397
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,620
Whether it was God's hand or just...
398
00:31:44,621 --> 00:31:47,973
A mother looking after her
son I honestly don't know.
399
00:31:47,974 --> 00:31:51,503
But it was something, it was
something greater than me.
400
00:31:51,504 --> 00:31:56,664
And greater than anything
that I've ever believed.
401
00:31:57,589 --> 00:32:02,591
I absolutely think something
special happened here.
402
00:32:02,592 --> 00:32:05,291
People have asked before...
" Is this some kind of miracle?"
403
00:32:05,292 --> 00:32:07,225
Yeah, I think it is a miracle.
404
00:32:07,226 --> 00:32:11,560
It's a whole number of a series of
events that I can't explain and...
405
00:32:11,561 --> 00:32:17,461
I don't know I've often thought about
it, I just don't have the answers.
406
00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:43,040
I would come in to the heliport.
407
00:32:43,041 --> 00:32:46,821
And pre-flight the helicopter...
408
00:32:47,091 --> 00:32:50,081
The we would settle in and try to gauge.
409
00:32:50,082 --> 00:32:53,182
Listening to the police radio...
410
00:32:53,183 --> 00:32:56,603
Of how the day was going.
411
00:32:57,747 --> 00:33:02,299
I Was working with a new
crew member, Kenny Downs.
412
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:06,454
He did not have any flight
experience and my job was...
413
00:33:06,455 --> 00:33:11,375
To kind of guide him,
and show him the ropes.
414
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:13,907
I'd only been in the
unit a couple of weeks.
415
00:33:13,908 --> 00:33:17,914
So it was like having a brand new job.
416
00:33:17,915 --> 00:33:23,135
We noticed very quickly it
was a very quiet night.
417
00:33:28,475 --> 00:33:31,971
Around 10:30 or 11:00 that night.
418
00:33:31,972 --> 00:33:36,115
We decided that we should
take the helicopter up.
419
00:33:36,116 --> 00:33:39,536
And do our routine patrol.
420
00:33:39,540 --> 00:33:40,678
Make our presence known.
421
00:33:40,679 --> 00:33:43,229
Air one this is north-tower
you are cleared for take off.
422
00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:46,230
- Over.
- Copy that.
423
00:33:53,323 --> 00:33:56,623
Kenny and I were flying.
424
00:33:56,826 --> 00:33:58,775
Kenny was shining the light.
425
00:33:58,776 --> 00:34:01,152
Checking for anything that may be unusual.
426
00:34:01,153 --> 00:34:04,354
Checking roof tops of businesses.
427
00:34:04,355 --> 00:34:09,575
School grounds, and the
express ways and road ways.
428
00:34:17,027 --> 00:34:19,109
The radio was quiet.
429
00:34:19,110 --> 00:34:24,090
There wasn't a lot of
activity on the streets.
430
00:34:25,686 --> 00:34:29,803
There was virtually nothing in the sky.
431
00:34:29,804 --> 00:34:34,259
It was just a slow night
all the way around.
432
00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:37,559
So you wouldn't think that that night,
433
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:43,460
would be a night that you'd
remember for the rest of your life.
434
00:35:02,578 --> 00:35:05,522
We had been flying for
45 minutes to an hour.
435
00:35:05,523 --> 00:35:09,013
Air one we have a burglary
in progress on Penile Road.
436
00:35:09,014 --> 00:35:10,314
Copy that.
437
00:35:10,315 --> 00:35:14,841
A call came out that there
was a burglary in progress.
438
00:35:14,842 --> 00:35:18,165
That's about 3 miles up north I believe.
439
00:35:18,166 --> 00:35:20,687
Then as we got nearer
which was only about...
440
00:35:20,688 --> 00:35:24,535
Um, a couple minutes, 3 minutes away...
441
00:35:24,536 --> 00:35:27,896
I saw a light flickering.
442
00:35:31,075 --> 00:35:34,271
The officer was shining his
flashlight turning it off and on.
443
00:35:34,272 --> 00:35:38,532
And I could tell where we were going.
444
00:35:42,087 --> 00:35:43,502
We were almost there.
445
00:35:43,503 --> 00:35:47,915
Be advised all personnel that is a false
alarm, that is a false alarm. Over.
446
00:35:47,916 --> 00:35:50,333
And they told us that it was a false alarm.
447
00:35:50,334 --> 00:35:51,896
Copy that.
448
00:35:51,897 --> 00:35:54,777
False alarm, Kenny.
449
00:35:57,004 --> 00:35:59,679
Air one, bring us around.
We'll head back to base if that's the case.
450
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,576
We decided that we would just head
back to the heliport and take a break.
451
00:36:04,577 --> 00:36:06,463
T.C. This is air one...
452
00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:10,962
Uh, we are 4 miles southwest
of your current location.
453
00:36:10,963 --> 00:36:14,174
Roger that. Air one you are
clear to land on helipad 3.
454
00:36:14,175 --> 00:36:20,075
In route back to the heliport,
we went over a group of trees.
455
00:36:20,087 --> 00:36:25,987
We cleared this clump of trees,
and I saw something very unusual.
456
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,499
- What's that?
- What's what?
457
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:30,469
Look over to your left.
458
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:36,370
I recall Kenny saying to me, Kenny
when did that tower get out there?
459
00:36:36,389 --> 00:36:40,086
And said tower, what tower?
"That tower with the light on it."
460
00:36:40,087 --> 00:36:41,781
There is no tower there.
461
00:36:41,782 --> 00:36:43,829
He said, "What are you talking about"?
I said that there.
462
00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:47,269
So I shined the light on it.
463
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:51,950
And I looked over and saw a glowing object.
464
00:36:55,204 --> 00:36:57,045
And I said, what is that?
465
00:36:57,046 --> 00:36:59,782
That's definitely not a light on a tower.
466
00:36:59,783 --> 00:37:03,683
I got lower and a little closer.
467
00:37:07,867 --> 00:37:09,674
It was very bright.
468
00:37:09,675 --> 00:37:12,735
It had a pear shape.
469
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,568
It just set there so we were kind
of facing off with each other.
470
00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:22,669
It was looking at us and
we were looking at it.
471
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,199
I kept asking Kenny... What is this thing?
472
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,199
Look at this!
473
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,060
We just couldn't believe
what we were seeing.
474
00:37:34,434 --> 00:37:37,099
It started gaining altitude.
475
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:40,940
Coming up to about our altitude.
476
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,298
It stopped for a second,
it kinda looked at us.
477
00:37:44,299 --> 00:37:50,119
We kinda faced off and then it
started going to the right.
478
00:37:50,397 --> 00:37:53,517
And then to the left.
479
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:57,378
It kinda hovered, like we were doing.
480
00:37:57,379 --> 00:38:01,199
So we kinda faced off with each other.
481
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,127
And then all of a sudden it
just takes off a warp speed.
482
00:38:06,128 --> 00:38:11,408
And just goes like a mile
and a half in a second.
483
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:16,996
As it disappeared from our sight it
had to be going 600 miles an hour.
484
00:38:16,997 --> 00:38:21,506
We just couldn't believe it.
What is this thing?
485
00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:26,127
It would leave and it would be right back.
486
00:38:33,398 --> 00:38:37,341
I saw a helicopter hovering
over the GE property.
487
00:38:37,342 --> 00:38:40,719
I could tell that it was
the police helicopter.
488
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,837
What have you got going on over at GE?
I'm across the street in the park.
489
00:38:43,838 --> 00:38:46,363
I said guys, you all
need to come over here,
490
00:38:46,364 --> 00:38:52,004
we've got something chasing
us we're in GE parking lot.
491
00:38:55,464 --> 00:38:58,375
You know I moved on to the
property to get a better look.
492
00:38:58,376 --> 00:39:00,396
And you know I see the helicopter and then,
493
00:39:00,397 --> 00:39:05,857
off to one side I see kind
of a faint glowing light.
494
00:39:06,893 --> 00:39:10,689
We're seeing this orange glow up in the
sky here do you see what were seeing Joe?
495
00:39:10,690 --> 00:39:12,644
I see it all around you.
496
00:39:12,645 --> 00:39:15,145
You know I'm talking to Kenny on the radio.
497
00:39:15,146 --> 00:39:18,443
And uh, you know we're
basically asking him...
498
00:39:18,444 --> 00:39:23,448
Hey what is it guys, you know
what, what are you seeing?
499
00:39:23,449 --> 00:39:24,586
It's right behind us!
500
00:39:24,587 --> 00:39:29,147
I hear," Kenny, it's chasing us!
It's chasing us!"
501
00:39:29,148 --> 00:39:31,256
Air one, I have no idea what that is.
502
00:39:31,257 --> 00:39:34,018
I'm thinking, this thing is
going hit our tail rotor.
503
00:39:34,019 --> 00:39:37,031
It's coming from behind.
504
00:39:37,032 --> 00:39:39,972
I turned in to it.
505
00:39:40,331 --> 00:39:43,691
We're chasing after it...
506
00:39:44,042 --> 00:39:49,899
I was looking out my windshield.
I want to know what it is.
507
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:53,790
The whole time you know I'm chasing
this object and everything.
508
00:39:53,791 --> 00:39:55,535
Things are flashing through my mind...
509
00:39:55,536 --> 00:40:00,366
Is it a plane, a balloon?
Some kind of aircraft?
510
00:40:00,367 --> 00:40:03,614
I can't keep my eye on it
because their moving...
511
00:40:03,615 --> 00:40:09,515
And I'm having to move to try to
keep up and get a closer look at it.
512
00:40:09,949 --> 00:40:12,800
I'm driving pretty fast.
513
00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:17,181
As I'm zigzagging through the buildings.
514
00:40:17,993 --> 00:40:23,893
It started getting farther and farther away
from me where I couldn't keep up with it.
515
00:40:25,425 --> 00:40:29,925
At the last moment... It was unbelievable.
516
00:40:31,208 --> 00:40:33,005
It's over... Right in front of us.
517
00:40:33,006 --> 00:40:35,088
What is this?
518
00:40:35,089 --> 00:40:37,265
Whoa! What the hell was that?
519
00:40:37,266 --> 00:40:42,666
Oh my God. All of a sudden
there come the fireballs.
520
00:40:50,416 --> 00:40:52,336
Whoa!
521
00:40:52,892 --> 00:40:56,633
That was the size of a baseball!
What the hell was that? Where did it go?
522
00:40:56,634 --> 00:41:01,418
As they fired out they stayed
equal distance to each other.
523
00:41:01,419 --> 00:41:03,472
- Look at that!
- It's another one.
524
00:41:03,473 --> 00:41:07,715
When they shot these fireballs out,
one never passed the other one.
525
00:41:07,716 --> 00:41:11,099
It was just... Right in line.
526
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:16,017
At that same time, I'm banking
the helicopter hard to the left.
527
00:41:16,018 --> 00:41:21,585
And turning, because I didn't
want these objects to hit us.
528
00:41:21,586 --> 00:41:26,866
I see these faint fireballs
just kind of spurt out.
529
00:41:31,842 --> 00:41:36,739
By then I'm coming back up and
around to see where it went.
530
00:41:36,740 --> 00:41:38,669
And it was gone.
531
00:41:38,670 --> 00:41:41,214
- Okay. Kenny where did it go?
- I do not know.
532
00:41:41,215 --> 00:41:44,544
And we were saying where is?
533
00:41:44,545 --> 00:41:48,359
- Kenny you see anything?
- I don't see anything.
534
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,440
There was nothing. It just vanished.
535
00:41:55,530 --> 00:42:01,430
We circled the area, and could
not find any trace of anything.
536
00:42:01,470 --> 00:42:07,370
Just as it appeared in the beginning,
it was gone in an instant.
537
00:42:08,819 --> 00:42:14,719
Once the unidentified flying object
disappeared, we decided to head in.
538
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,880
There wasn't a lot of conversation.
539
00:42:23,590 --> 00:42:29,490
At that point, I'm just kind of
baffled you know what was it?
540
00:42:31,505 --> 00:42:36,425
We're trying to say that
this was not a UFO.
541
00:42:39,250 --> 00:42:42,490
And we couldn't do it.
542
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:46,999
Do I believe in UFO's?
543
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,280
Absolutely.
544
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,049
I really don't know what it
was, and I can't explain it.
545
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:57,608
But I did see a unidentified flying object.
546
00:42:58,305 --> 00:43:04,549
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