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[sirens blaring]
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[Gandy] My partner and I got
a call from dispatch.
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It says, uh, "Any narcotics
detectives in the area
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of Autumn Wood Drive
to come by."
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I went up to the bedroom.
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There was sheriff's
deputies running
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over the place like ants.
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They were everywhere.
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It didn't even look
like Liston,
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he'd been dead for so long.
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He'd been dead
four or five days.
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He was bloated.
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He was full of methane gas.
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It really made me sick
in my stomach,
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because he was such
a predominant figure
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in--in sports world.
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I just thought it was
a terrible, disrespectful way
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for him to go.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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[Farrell] Sonny Liston was
the greatest heavyweight
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who ever lived,
I have no doubt about that.
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He was a bona fide monster.
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[Assael] He punched
with the force
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of a government
crash test.
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[announcer] Westphal has never
been knocked
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on his feet until now.
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Sonny Liston was the first
intimidating fighter
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with the mean scowl
and the mean grin.
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He was a real badass,
a real menacing force.
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The way Sonny won most of his
fights was before he even got
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into the ring,
those eyes.
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[Collins] He was an ex-convict.
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- He was brutal.
- [grunts]
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He was mobbed up.
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He was a symbol of the champ
we didn't want.
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Sonny was in the epicenter
of a perfect storm,
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as far as what was going on
in society.
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The Civil Rights Era
was just starting,
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and he was the guy
in the middle
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that took all the grief.
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America needed to remind
the broader white public
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of the danger
that was black folk,
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and nobody represented that
danger more than Sonny Liston.
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[Roberts] We don't know how
Sonny Liston died,
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and in the void created
by the absence
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of rational explanation,
conspiracy filled it
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like a foul air.
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[Assael] The medical examiner
called it natural causes.
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But nobody around Sonny
believed that.
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Everybody believed
he was murdered.
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So many people wanted
Sonny dead.
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The only question is,
who got to him first?
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[Collins] Nobody really knows
when Sonny Liston was born.
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He often gave the date
of May 8th, 1932.
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But he was probably
older than that.
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There were no records.
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Not even the family Bible
had his birth date in there.
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So he was a mystery
right from the start.
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Sonny was the 24th
of 25 children.
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His father, Tobe,
was a sharecropper,
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and with that many mouths
to feed,
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it must have been tough.
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I mean, Sonny knew what it was
to be hungry.
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You know, he knew that.
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[Long] In Forrest City,
Arkansas,
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we were trying to survive.
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Day-to-day survival.
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'Cause, you know, poor people--
We were poor people.
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So, and you know, we trying
to live from day to day.
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[Collins] He didn't really get
much of an education.
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He never learned to read
or write.
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He was out in the fields
working by time
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he was eight years old.
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[Izenberg] The story--
and I think
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it's more than apocryphal--
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The mule dies,
and his father says,
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"You're the mule."
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Hooks him up to the harness and
he's plowing furrows with him.
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[Majeski] He was whipped by
his father
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to force him to work harder,
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and Sonny had the marks
to prove it.
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Getting beaten as a child,
you know,
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will really affect your
outlook on how you see things.
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If you had hoped for
a better life,
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you will live your
life differently.
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He didn't have hope
for a better life.
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[Roberts] All Sonny knows
is violence.
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And if Sonny looks at the world
around him, you know,
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what does he see?
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He sees violence towards
black men, black children.
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[Jeffries] Jim Crow America
was violent.
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Jim Crow America
was dangerous.
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You could be walking down
the street as a young man,
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as a boy, as a woman,
and literally your life
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could be snuffed out.
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Like, that's what Jim Crow was.
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Around 1946,
Sonny's mother left to go north
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in search of a better life.
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She ended up in St. Louis,
but Sonny was still back
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on the plantation.
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So, um, he got a bus ticket
to go to St. Louis.
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[Jeffries] They called it
black folk
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in search of
the promised land.
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You get a couple million black
folk literally looking
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for a better way of life.
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The reality, though, uh,
was that promised land
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was fabled.
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[Roberts] Sonny finds
his mother.
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Is the mother happy
to see him?
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Maybe a little.
Maybe not.
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Sonny is another mouth to feed,
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and then he's on the streets.
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He was at the dark side
of St. Louis at the time,
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the real poor section,
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and he saw how the poor
people got money.
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They robbed and steal.
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[Majeski] Sonny Liston, after
some minor infractions,
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went to the big time.
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He went to rob a gas station,
he went to rob a restaurant,
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and he used a gun in the
commission of these crimes.
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[Collins] Sonny always wore
the yellow shirt.
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Police knew they were
looking for a guy
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wearing a yellow shirt,
and they got him.
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After Sonny was tried,
he got, um, five years in jail.
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That was the sentence for
armed robbery at the time.
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And he went
to the penitentiary
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in Jefferson, which was
a really tough place.
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[Majeski] Time Magazine
called it
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the bloodiest 47 acres
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in America.
Gangs ruled it.
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There were fights
all the time.
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Guards were afraid to patrol
some of the d-blocks.
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Liston was brutalized
early in prison.
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I believe Liston had to fight
for everything he got there.
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And I think he took his share
of beatings.
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It was a Darwinian existence.
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[Rigueur] His story becomes
about survival.
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Now, his story had always been
about survival,
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but it takes on a new element.
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[Majeski] Father Stevens, who
was working at the prison
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got him into the boxing
program there.
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[Collins] Father Stevens was
trying to do a good turn
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for somebody he thought that
might have a chance
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to break away from
a life of crime.
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[Izenberg] Boxing has always
been
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a step ladder
for poor people
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without other skills.
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And Sonny fit that picture
100 percent.
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[Tyson] Sonny Liston saw
boxing as a way out.
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He didn't wanna live that life
in prison no more.
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He didn't want to live
that life in the streets.
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And that's why he excelled
and did so well.
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[Majeski] Sonny was a prodigy.
He was a revelation.
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This is a guy who could be
really an exceptional athlete.
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A great fighter.
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[Roberts]
And this is something good,
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that he can hang
his identity onto.
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This is what his
identity's all about.
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Sonny had beaten up all
the inmates that dared get in
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the ring with him.
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♪ dramatic music ♪
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Father Stevens thought,
"Well, let's see how he could
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do with a pro.
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So they brought
in Thurman Wilson
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who was considered the best
heavyweight
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in the neighborhood.
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He lasted two rounds
with Sonny.
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[Majeski] The manager Mitchell
who brought him in said,
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"I don't think I should
be managing Wilson.
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I should look into handling
Sonny Liston."
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As with everything
with Sonny Liston,
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there's always a subtext, okay?
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It turns out that
Frank Mitchell
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is connected to Johnny Vitale.
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Johnny Vitale is in the mob.
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And before you know it,
Sonny Liston is paroled.
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He doesn't have to serve
his full years.
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[alarm ringing]
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Also, Johnny Vitale,
he can offer two things.
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One is he could offer
an outside job,
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which is breaking
people's legs.
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[Majeski] Sonny was gonna be
head breaking
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against union breakers.
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And it was racketeering,
and it was picking up money
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for the loan sharks.
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[Roberts] But secondly, Johnny
Vitale knows a guy by the name
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of Frankie Carbo.
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Frankie Carbo
is the underworld
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boss of boxing.
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[man] Frankie Carbo, Mr. Gray,
the Superintendent,
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one of the most feared gunmen
of the Prohibition Era
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and the undisputed czar
of the professional sport.
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[Collins] You couldn't get
a big fight in most divisions
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if you didn't have Carbo
on your side.
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That's just the way it was.
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I mean, in a way, boxing has
been corrupt forever.
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So it wasn't anything new.
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But Carbo was more powerful
because he had an organization
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behind him and he had
a reputation as a murderer.
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[Majeski] Frankie Carbo would
kill you on a dime.
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Frankie was the real thing.
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He was 100 percent gangster.
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There was no question
about that.
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But Frankie Carbo
loved boxing.
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[Collins] Sonny decided, you
know, if I'm ever gonna make
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anything out of my life,
I gotta go with these guys
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because they're the ones that
can get me where I wanna go.
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[Jeffries] He chooses
this path,
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and I don't know how many
of us
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would choose
something different,
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uh, given the exact same set
of choices that we had.
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Before you turn professional,
it's good to get an amateur
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career--an amateur tryout,
if you will.
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So Sonny enters into
the Golden Gloves tournament.
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♪ dramatic music ♪
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He won the Chicago
Golden Gloves.
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[Collins] And then Sonny Liston
went on to win
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the national Golden Gloves,
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and that really put him
on the map.
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And by September of 1953,
he turned professional.
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Liston got the attention
of the boxing world
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very, very early,
but you have to understand
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that even with mob-controlled
fighters,
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especially if they're
black fighters,
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you have to go through
a baptism of fire.
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Nobody hands you anything.
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He's tested right away
from the very beginning.
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He's not fighting real
stumblebums.
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He won his first fight by
knockout and then continued
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the early series of bouts
in St. Louis
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winning by knockouts.
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He was a straight-up fighter
that came forward,
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looked to seek and destroy you.
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If he hit you with a good
punch, he knocked you out.
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If you wanted to build
a perfect heavyweight,
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you would use Sonny Liston
as your model.
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He heralded in the era
of giant heavyweights
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without, in fact, being
a giant heavyweight himself.
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He was only a little bit over
six feet tall,
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and he weighed about
200 pounds.
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[announcer] That's our newest
youngster, the Sonny Liston.
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[Farrell] Liston's reach
was 86 inches,
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which was the greatest reach
of any heavyweight champion
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in history with a possible
exception of Primo Carnera.
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[announcer] Trying to stay
with the bigger Liston.
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Harris gets hit with
a left hook and goes down.
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[cheers and applause]
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He was enormously powerful
through the shoulders.
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He had long arms.
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His fists were like
huge hams.
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His jab was his
greatest weapon,
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and it was the greatest jab
any heavyweight's ever had.
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Most fighters use jabs just
to set the opponent up.
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Usually it's not that hard.
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But Sonny Liston used it
as a weapon--boom--
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to knock you out
and knock you down.
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[Roberts] Sonny's left jab was
a nose-cracking,
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teeth-busting,
jaw-dropping experience.
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And they said getting hit
by his jab was like getting hit
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by a pole.
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♪♪♪
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Well, Sonny Liston had a big
menacing tough guy reputation,
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and that's what preceded him
in the ring.
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He intimidates the fighter.
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The fighter's really beaten
before he even
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got in the ring.
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Sonny could pull it off.
I could pull it off.
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Not a lot of people
could pull it off.
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♪♪♪
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Sonny, uh, what advice would
you give to a young lad
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who came to you and said,
"I want to become a boxer?"
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What would you tell him as
regards training and so forth?
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Well, they always told me
anything you wanna do,
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do your best and be
the best at it.
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[Collins] I don't think the
general public ever knew
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the real Sonny Liston.
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They knew the persona,
the thug-like guy who just
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knocked everybody out and was
associated with the mob
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and been in jail.
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He wasn't really that.
That was a front.
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That was like what he needed
to protect himself
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and also to intimidate
his opponents.
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He was a very sensitive person.
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He could be hurt easily.
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♪ dramatic music ♪
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[Long] Uncle Charles--we didn't
call him Sonny at that time--
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was really a soft and gentle
person, seriously.
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And so I didn't understand
how they, you know,
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I think at some point they
called him the Bear.
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But he was never like
that with me.
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♪♪♪
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He wanted me to be a little
bit above where he came from.
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Is the term "surrogate parent"?
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He was really close to me.
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[Izenberg] He was respectful
of kids and old people,
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'cause they posed no threat
to him.
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And most of all, he was
very respectful of Geraldine.
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He's a good man and he's
a kind man
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and worthy of a chance
to contribute to society.
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I am Mrs. Sonny Liston.
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♪♪♪
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[Izenberg] Geraldine was
so different than Sonny.
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I always wondered how
they met.
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So one day I asked her.
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And she said to me, "Well, you
know, Sonny picked me up."
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I didn't know what
she meant by that.
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She said, "No, I mean he
picked me up.
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It was raining.
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I was standing on a St. Louis
street corner.
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Sonny pulls up in this big
car, puts me in the car,
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and then says, 'A little lady
like you should not be standing
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out in the rain.'"
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♪♪♪
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[Reddish Jr.] Geraldine Liston
was a beautiful lady
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who loved her Charles.
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I could hear her right now
say, "Charles?"
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And he'd, "Yes, dear?"
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She was his blanket,
I'll say.
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She covered him
and kept him warm.
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And loved him.
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♪♪♪
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[Collins] Geraldine
probably knew
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that Sonny was running
around with other women.
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But there's a lot of women,
they'd rather accept him
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messing around on the side
than lose him.
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And I think that's pretty much
where she was.
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I think in a way they really
loved each other.
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♪♪♪
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You know, there was one thing
that Sonny was better at
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than boxing, and that was
compartmentalizing himself.
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He could be a loving husband,
he could be a womanizer,
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he could be a criminal,
he could be a boxer.
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That's what he was
a master at:
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boxing and being able to lead
so many different lives.
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There were so many men
inside that one man.
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♪♪♪
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[Roberts] By the mid-'50s,
he's a boxer of some repute.
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He's a leg breaker
for the mob.
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He's an alley dweller.
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You know, Sonny never walked
on well-lit streets.
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Sonny moved around in darkness.
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So there was a running battle
between the police
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and Sonny Liston.
The police harassed him.
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[Jeffries] He wasn't just some
random black guy.
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He was Sonny Liston--
gangster, criminal.
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Once you lose that anonymity
in the face of the police,
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then you're really
gonna catch hell.
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♪♪♪
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[Assael] He had a target on
his back.
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The St. Louis cops would roust
him any time they could.
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Sonny was headed towards
a championship fight.
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But he was also headed towards
a whole lot of heat.
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♪♪♪
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[Collins] One night, uh, Sonny
was, uh, leaving a party
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and a policeman came over.
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One thing led to another.
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♪♪♪
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The cop went to draw his gun,
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00:19:18,333 --> 00:19:21,041
and Sonny took it
away from him,
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dragged him back in the alley,
and beat him up.
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♪♪♪
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The weird thing about that
was he was arrested
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and he was charged,
but they only gave him
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nine months in the workhouse.
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This is a black man
in St. Louis
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beating up a cop
and taking his gun.
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That was an unheard of
lenient sentence,
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00:19:43,458 --> 00:19:47,417
and you gotta figure that there
was some people connected
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00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:49,792
behind that.
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The mob makes their phone
calls and makes sure
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that if they need a fighter
to be available
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to the fight,
he's not kept inside
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for any length of time.
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And after that point,
Sonny was known as a cop hater.
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♪♪♪
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There's so much heat around
Sonny.
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A police captain named
John Doherty
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00:20:16,375 --> 00:20:17,291
takes him to the edge
of St. Louis,
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00:20:17,375 --> 00:20:20,291
puts a gun to his head,
and says,
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00:20:20,375 --> 00:20:20,750
"Get the hell out of town."
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♪♪♪
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[Roberts] Frankie Carbo
has henchmen
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00:20:31,041 --> 00:20:34,041
throughout the country.
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In Philadelphia,
his leading henchman--
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his partner in crime--
was a guy by the name
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of Blinky Palermo.
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[Majeski] Blinky Palermo had
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complete control of
Philadelphia.
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00:20:44,583 --> 00:20:46,792
Had complete control
of the commission.
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Had complete control
of the promotions.
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00:20:48,583 --> 00:20:51,291
They could do with as they
wished in Philadelphia.
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00:20:51,375 --> 00:20:53,583
♪♪♪
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In Philadelphia,
Blinky Palermo
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00:20:55,625 --> 00:20:57,125
and Frankie Carbo gave him
to Willie Reddish,
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who was a legendary trainer.
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00:21:00,417 --> 00:21:01,583
♪♪♪
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[Reddish Jr.] Gentleman walks
in with Sonny Liston,
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talks to my father and say,
"Here he is, train him."
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Simple as that.
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00:21:10,208 --> 00:21:15,208
♪♪♪
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He didn't talk about
hurting someone.
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He didn't talk about
dealing anything.
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He was doing just what his job
had given him.
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To be a fighter.
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With Willie Reddish,
you know,
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he had to work for the first
time in his career.
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00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:30,625
He really had to train hard.
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And that was the missing piece
of the puzzle.
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♪♪♪
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[Farrell] They started putting
him in with the elite fighters
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of the heavyweight division--
the guys who nobody wanted,
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and the guys who really
would beat you.
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00:21:42,458 --> 00:21:45,583
And Liston just steamrolled
every one of them.
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♪♪♪
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[Majeski] He defeats Julio
Mederos, destroys Wayne Bethea
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on national television.
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00:21:53,333 --> 00:21:55,208
Sixty-nine seconds after
the fight started,
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Sonny knocked out
16 of his teeth.
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It was a spectacular knockout.
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00:22:00,750 --> 00:22:01,792
[announcer] Liston with
another left hook,
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00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:05,375
a right, and another left.
And Bethea is down!
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[Majeski] He knocks out
Nino Valdes.
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He knocks out Mike DeJohn.
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00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:12,041
He knocks out Zora Folley.
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00:22:12,125 --> 00:22:13,291
He outpoints Eddie Machen.
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They were tough guys
for their time,
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00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:18,250
and Sonny walked
right through them.
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Sonny merely was in his own
version of Heaven.
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♪♪♪
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He was getting paid money
to knock people down,
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and nobody could arrest him.
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♪♪♪
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And he got better
and better and better.
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♪♪♪
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The most impressive fight,
he fights a guy
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named Cleveland Williams.
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00:22:41,250 --> 00:22:42,583
Sonny Liston
and Cleveland Williams
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is like Thor fighting Hercules.
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00:22:44,250 --> 00:22:46,083
You know, it was
no holds barred.
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These are the two hardest
punching fighters
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in the world at that time.
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No one wanted to fight
either one.
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I remember both fighters
just swinging,
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00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:54,125
swinging at the wind,
going for it.
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Trying to knock each other out.
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Cleveland Williams almost
knocked Sonny Liston
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00:23:00,542 --> 00:23:02,625
out of the ring.
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00:23:02,709 --> 00:23:04,166
He broke a rib.
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00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:05,792
He battered him.
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00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:08,333
He was lucky to make it
through the round.
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That was his epiphany.
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00:23:10,041 --> 00:23:11,458
I think he saw that,
"If I'm gonna lose,
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00:23:11,542 --> 00:23:14,125
I'll be back in prison,
I'll be back in poverty."
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00:23:14,208 --> 00:23:14,792
And I think his managers
and trainers
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00:23:14,875 --> 00:23:16,750
read the riot act to him.
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00:23:16,834 --> 00:23:18,083
"Sonny, all you have is your
ability as a fighter.
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00:23:18,166 --> 00:23:20,792
And you have to win."
506
00:23:20,875 --> 00:23:22,291
[announcer] Liston moves in
with lefts and rights.
507
00:23:22,375 --> 00:23:24,083
Hammer blows
to the head and body.
508
00:23:24,166 --> 00:23:25,333
[Majeski] Sonny doesn't give
up,
509
00:23:25,417 --> 00:23:26,959
and he knocks him out
in one
510
00:23:27,041 --> 00:23:28,959
of the great fights
of all time.
511
00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:29,750
[announcer] One look at
Williams' face,
512
00:23:29,834 --> 00:23:30,792
and you know the end is near.
513
00:23:30,875 --> 00:23:35,834
♪♪♪
514
00:23:35,917 --> 00:23:36,417
Everybody was scared
when he knocked out
515
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,792
Cleveland Williams.
516
00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:41,208
At this point, Sonny was the
best heavyweight in the world.
517
00:23:41,291 --> 00:23:44,208
He had cleared out
the dangerous part of
518
00:23:44,291 --> 00:23:46,166
the heavyweight division,
and he'd done it in a way
519
00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:49,333
that was so unilateral
that he was undeniable.
520
00:23:49,417 --> 00:23:52,166
[announcer] And a fast right
to the head puts Harris down.
521
00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:53,125
♪♪♪
522
00:23:53,208 --> 00:23:56,125
The fight is over.
523
00:23:56,208 --> 00:23:57,750
Sonny Liston sets his sights
524
00:23:57,834 --> 00:23:59,709
on the heavyweight
championship.
525
00:23:59,792 --> 00:24:04,166
Every guy who hit the canvas
was one body to step over
526
00:24:04,250 --> 00:24:06,333
on the way
to a world title fight.
527
00:24:06,417 --> 00:24:07,834
♪♪♪
528
00:24:07,917 --> 00:24:10,166
[cheers and applause]
529
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:12,041
[announcer] Sonny, let's talk
about your future now.
530
00:24:12,125 --> 00:24:14,125
Who do you wanna fight in the
ring in your next engagement?
531
00:24:14,208 --> 00:24:16,750
The man who got the title.
532
00:24:16,834 --> 00:24:19,166
He thought that the title
would turn him
533
00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:20,583
into somebody different.
534
00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:24,625
He saw a chance
to reinvent himself.
535
00:24:24,709 --> 00:24:25,709
He had people who wanted
to talk to him,
536
00:24:25,792 --> 00:24:28,625
newspaper reporters who wanted
to cover him,
537
00:24:28,709 --> 00:24:30,000
because they knew where
this was going.
538
00:24:30,083 --> 00:24:34,208
♪♪♪
539
00:24:34,291 --> 00:24:36,792
[Collins] The problem was
540
00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:39,917
when he got close to getting
a title fight,
541
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,667
that's when all the resistance
started.
542
00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:44,542
♪♪♪
543
00:24:44,625 --> 00:24:45,625
[Roberts] We have a guy
by the name of Kefauver,
544
00:24:45,709 --> 00:24:49,083
senator from Tennessee,
who's investigating
545
00:24:49,166 --> 00:24:51,375
corruption in America.
546
00:24:51,458 --> 00:24:52,709
This is an age where America
was looking for corruption
547
00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:56,208
all over the place,
whether it was communists
548
00:24:56,291 --> 00:24:58,834
or labor unions
or what have you.
549
00:24:58,917 --> 00:25:02,125
And Kefauver decides boxing
is corrupt.
550
00:25:02,208 --> 00:25:03,417
♪♪♪
551
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,917
[Lipsyte] Estes Kefauver saw
552
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,125
these hearings
as an opportunity
553
00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:12,583
to be on this very new thing
called television.
554
00:25:12,667 --> 00:25:14,750
You gotta remember, it's not
like television today
555
00:25:14,834 --> 00:25:16,250
where they'll put a camera
in the grave
556
00:25:16,333 --> 00:25:17,709
if they can get away with it.
557
00:25:17,792 --> 00:25:20,375
This was a whole new idea.
558
00:25:20,458 --> 00:25:23,917
Have you ever threatened
any
559
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,875
manager or boxer
560
00:25:25,959 --> 00:25:27,625
or promoter at any time?
561
00:25:27,709 --> 00:25:31,000
I respectfully decline
to answer the question
562
00:25:31,083 --> 00:25:32,208
on the ground that I cannot
be compelled to be a witness
563
00:25:32,291 --> 00:25:34,750
against myself.
564
00:25:34,834 --> 00:25:36,750
[Roberts] The spotlight
is on Frankie Carbo.
565
00:25:36,834 --> 00:25:38,083
It's on Blinky Palermo.
566
00:25:38,166 --> 00:25:42,250
It's on the other henchmen in
the mob involved with boxing.
567
00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:45,291
And Sonny Liston's tied
to all of them.
568
00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:47,000
♪♪♪
569
00:25:47,083 --> 00:25:48,959
So this is a problem.
570
00:25:49,041 --> 00:25:51,750
Sonny Liston, at a time when
he's becoming absolutely
571
00:25:51,834 --> 00:25:54,625
the most famous fighter
in the world,
572
00:25:54,709 --> 00:25:58,166
is becoming known as absolutely
the most criminally tied
573
00:25:58,250 --> 00:26:01,709
fighter in the world.
574
00:26:01,792 --> 00:26:03,625
[Collins] It hurt
his reputation.
575
00:26:03,709 --> 00:26:04,750
The stuff was
already there.
576
00:26:04,834 --> 00:26:10,125
But it broadcasted to a much
wider audience.
577
00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:13,500
[Assael] J. Edgar Hoover and
the FBI are also obsessed--
578
00:26:13,583 --> 00:26:16,291
I mean obsessed--with Sonny
being a linchpin
579
00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:19,000
between the mob and boxing.
580
00:26:19,083 --> 00:26:22,166
This is evidenced by all the
FBI reports where you could
581
00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:24,750
see Hoover was following
Sonny's career closely.
582
00:26:24,834 --> 00:26:29,709
♪♪♪
583
00:26:29,792 --> 00:26:32,542
[Collins] They didn't want a
guy like Sonny Liston having
584
00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:34,834
what was probably the most
prestigious prize
585
00:26:34,917 --> 00:26:35,250
in sports at the time.
586
00:26:35,333 --> 00:26:40,125
♪♪♪
587
00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:43,417
[Farrell] In order to fight for
the heavyweight championship,
588
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,291
Sonny Liston would have had
to fight Floyd Patterson.
589
00:26:46,375 --> 00:26:48,333
And Patterson's
an interesting figure
590
00:26:48,417 --> 00:26:51,500
because he was a very, very
popular champion.
591
00:26:51,583 --> 00:26:53,875
♪♪♪
592
00:26:53,959 --> 00:26:55,709
[Majeski] And he has one of
the cagiest, most brilliant,
593
00:26:55,792 --> 00:26:58,542
most insane managers
in the history of the sport,
594
00:26:58,625 --> 00:27:00,625
Cus D'Amato.
595
00:27:00,709 --> 00:27:03,500
And Cus D'Amato did not want
to expose this property of his
596
00:27:03,583 --> 00:27:04,750
to Sonny Liston.
597
00:27:04,834 --> 00:27:06,709
[Farrell] And he had
a built-in excuse
598
00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,917
since he could say,
"Well, we don't want
599
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,000
the heavyweight title even
potentially falling into
600
00:27:13,083 --> 00:27:13,792
the hands of the mob."
601
00:27:16,125 --> 00:27:18,375
[Collins] The time that Sonny
lived and fought in
602
00:27:18,458 --> 00:27:20,500
was a time of change
in America.
603
00:27:20,583 --> 00:27:23,792
He was caught in the crosshair
of a huge upheaval
604
00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:24,834
in this country.
605
00:27:24,917 --> 00:27:27,500
♪♪♪
606
00:27:27,583 --> 00:27:29,291
The Civil Rights
era was starting.
607
00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:30,709
A lot of changes
were being made.
608
00:27:30,792 --> 00:27:33,583
[Rigueur] We're seeing
new kinds of protest,
609
00:27:33,667 --> 00:27:37,875
uh, strategies
like the sit-in movement.
610
00:27:37,959 --> 00:27:40,250
[announcer] This is the scene
of sit-downs in the past.
611
00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:44,041
However now we are told
the marchers have stopped here
612
00:27:44,125 --> 00:27:46,208
and a song will be sung.
613
00:27:46,291 --> 00:27:47,917
[Rigueur] Bus boycotts.
614
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,458
African-Americans pushing back
against societal norms
615
00:27:52,542 --> 00:27:54,542
that are telling them
that they are less than.
616
00:27:54,625 --> 00:27:57,917
I would rather die
on the highways of Alabama
617
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,583
than make a butchery
of my conscience.
618
00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:04,750
Also civil rights
organizations are picking
619
00:28:04,834 --> 00:28:08,375
and choosing people that they
see as model citizens
620
00:28:08,458 --> 00:28:10,875
to essentially prove
that African-Americans
621
00:28:10,959 --> 00:28:13,417
are deserving of citizenship.
622
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:15,583
And so Floyd Patterson fits
this idea.
623
00:28:15,667 --> 00:28:18,291
Now we've heard this word
"viciousness--"
624
00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:20,041
that a fighter has to have
a vicious attitude
625
00:28:20,125 --> 00:28:21,417
before he goes into the ring.
626
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:22,542
Now, how do you
feel about that?
627
00:28:22,625 --> 00:28:23,709
Well, not in all cases,
no.
628
00:28:23,792 --> 00:28:25,583
I disagree with that.
629
00:28:25,667 --> 00:28:27,500
In fact, I've only had the
vicious attitude in one fight.
630
00:28:27,583 --> 00:28:30,333
♪♪♪
631
00:28:30,417 --> 00:28:32,709
[Majeski] Floyd Patterson was
the Sidney Poitier of boxing.
632
00:28:32,792 --> 00:28:34,458
You know, very soft spoken,
guy you would want
633
00:28:34,542 --> 00:28:36,000
to go out with.
634
00:28:36,083 --> 00:28:36,959
He was involved
with civil rights.
635
00:28:37,041 --> 00:28:38,959
He was friendly
with Jackie Robinson.
636
00:28:39,041 --> 00:28:40,500
He was friendly
with Nelson Rockefeller.
637
00:28:40,583 --> 00:28:42,750
He was meeting senators.
638
00:28:42,834 --> 00:28:44,792
[Jeffries] He's not
a uppity negro.
639
00:28:44,875 --> 00:28:46,500
He's just there to get along,
uh, and he won't upset
640
00:28:46,583 --> 00:28:49,417
the apple cart,
if you will.
641
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,792
That's why the NAACP
and others feel comfortable
642
00:28:52,875 --> 00:28:57,208
with him as being sort of
the face of this effort
643
00:28:57,291 --> 00:29:00,458
to really desegregate--
integrate America.
644
00:29:00,542 --> 00:29:01,834
♪♪♪
645
00:29:01,917 --> 00:29:06,166
Sonny Liston's America's
worst nightmare.
646
00:29:06,250 --> 00:29:07,959
He is literally
a dangerous negro.
647
00:29:08,041 --> 00:29:12,125
And he's a dangerous negro
who's unafraid of white people,
648
00:29:12,208 --> 00:29:15,000
as demonstrated by his
consistent and constant
649
00:29:15,083 --> 00:29:16,291
encounters with the police.
650
00:29:16,375 --> 00:29:20,000
[Tyson] He had a bad rap for
always being mob connected.
651
00:29:20,083 --> 00:29:23,208
He was like a black eye
to the black community.
652
00:29:23,291 --> 00:29:26,125
So nobody wanted to be
associated with him.
653
00:29:26,208 --> 00:29:27,625
No respectable person.
654
00:29:27,709 --> 00:29:29,875
♪♪♪
655
00:29:29,959 --> 00:29:32,125
[Rigueur] He's imposing,
he's violent,
656
00:29:32,208 --> 00:29:34,667
he's abrupt,
he has no connection
657
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,291
to the civil rights movement.
658
00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:38,208
And he's unapologetic about it.
659
00:29:38,291 --> 00:29:39,750
[announcer] Sonny,
what do you think
660
00:29:39,834 --> 00:29:40,834
about the American
Revolution in 1963?
661
00:29:40,917 --> 00:29:43,709
Well, I think it's
a simple matter,
662
00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:47,250
but, um, a lot of peoples
is carrying this thing
663
00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:49,625
a little too far
for what it is.
664
00:29:49,709 --> 00:29:51,250
[Farrell] As he always said
about the riots,
665
00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:52,333
"I don't have
a dog-proof ass."
666
00:29:52,417 --> 00:29:55,500
He's not gonna get torn apart
for somebody else.
667
00:29:55,583 --> 00:30:00,750
♪♪♪
668
00:30:02,208 --> 00:30:05,500
The reason why we don't
really associate Sonny Liston
669
00:30:05,583 --> 00:30:08,417
with the civil rights movement,
uh, is because the civil rights
670
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,875
movement didn't associate
itself with Sonny Liston.
671
00:30:10,959 --> 00:30:14,250
Image was very important,
and that's exactly what
672
00:30:14,333 --> 00:30:15,875
Sonny Liston didn't have.
673
00:30:17,125 --> 00:30:20,959
[Farrell] I know for a fact
that JFK told Patterson
674
00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:23,542
he needed not
to fight Sonny Liston.
675
00:30:23,625 --> 00:30:26,083
Which, if you think about it,
is an enormous statement
676
00:30:26,166 --> 00:30:28,208
coming from the President
of the United States
677
00:30:28,291 --> 00:30:30,041
in regard to a prize fight.
678
00:30:30,125 --> 00:30:35,041
♪♪♪
679
00:30:37,083 --> 00:30:38,875
[Reddish Jr.] He had earned
his title.
680
00:30:38,959 --> 00:30:42,333
He had earned
the championship fight.
681
00:30:42,417 --> 00:30:44,250
Of course he had been
incarcerated as a youngster.
682
00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:46,750
Absolutely.
683
00:30:48,291 --> 00:30:51,542
They should have been
encouraging him and giving him
684
00:30:51,625 --> 00:30:54,417
a second chance,
685
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,750
so why deny him?
686
00:30:56,834 --> 00:30:59,583
I thought it was a disgrace.
687
00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:04,792
♪♪♪
688
00:31:05,834 --> 00:31:10,083
Sonny, I understand that you
have a statement to make
689
00:31:10,166 --> 00:31:12,000
as far as fighters
are concerned.
690
00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:16,417
Well, I've fought
all the top contenders,
691
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,125
and I've fought my way up
to the number one spot,
692
00:31:18,208 --> 00:31:22,291
so what do a man have
to do to get a earnest shot
693
00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:23,542
at the title?
694
00:31:23,625 --> 00:31:25,792
[Farrell] The real reason that
Cus D'Amato didn't want
695
00:31:25,875 --> 00:31:27,000
Floyd Patterson to fight
Sonny Liston is he was
696
00:31:27,083 --> 00:31:30,500
absolutely sure--as sure as
everyone else--
697
00:31:30,583 --> 00:31:31,583
that Patterson had
no chance to win.
698
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:33,875
Floyd didn't stand a chance.
699
00:31:33,959 --> 00:31:35,625
He was, you know--
He was too light.
700
00:31:35,709 --> 00:31:39,333
He was too weak.
He was scared.
701
00:31:39,417 --> 00:31:41,458
And there's no way you're gonna
beat Sonny if you're scared.
702
00:31:41,542 --> 00:31:46,959
♪♪♪
703
00:31:47,041 --> 00:31:49,625
[Roberts] Cus D'Amato's goal
with Floyd Patterson
704
00:31:49,709 --> 00:31:52,792
is never to match him up
against anybody
705
00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:56,709
that's of any competence
whatsoever.
706
00:31:56,792 --> 00:31:59,500
The downfall
of Floyd Patterson came
707
00:31:59,583 --> 00:32:02,417
with a great televised
double-header
708
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:05,250
where Patterson defended
his title against the great
709
00:32:05,333 --> 00:32:07,125
fighter Tom McNeeley.
710
00:32:07,208 --> 00:32:09,041
♪♪♪
711
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:11,375
Tom McNeeley was nothing.
712
00:32:11,458 --> 00:32:14,834
The fight was a sham.
713
00:32:14,917 --> 00:32:17,208
On the same card,
Sonny Liston fights
714
00:32:17,291 --> 00:32:18,500
Bert Westphal.
715
00:32:18,583 --> 00:32:21,500
Bert Westphal was
a good fighter.
716
00:32:21,583 --> 00:32:24,333
[announcer] Westphal
has 12 K.O.s.
717
00:32:24,417 --> 00:32:25,959
[Collins] Westphal tries to
stand up to Sonny Liston.
718
00:32:26,041 --> 00:32:28,625
Now he's mixing it
in exchanges,
719
00:32:28,709 --> 00:32:31,000
then finally Sonny
finds the range.
720
00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:33,000
[announcer] Westphal has never
been knocked off his feet
721
00:32:33,083 --> 00:32:34,834
until now.
722
00:32:34,917 --> 00:32:37,875
[Roberts] Liston destroys him.
723
00:32:37,959 --> 00:32:39,917
Liston is the champion.
724
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,291
Patterson's the great
pretender.
725
00:32:41,375 --> 00:32:44,750
[announcer] Albert Westphal
knocked out by Sonny Liston,
726
00:32:44,834 --> 00:32:47,291
who by virtue of this
one-round K.O. tonight
727
00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:50,959
has taken a long step toward
a fight with Floyd Patterson.
728
00:32:51,041 --> 00:32:54,125
Eventually, under
mounting pressure,
729
00:32:54,208 --> 00:32:56,917
Floyd felt that in order
to have any integrity--
730
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,917
personal integrity--he had
to fight Sonny Liston.
731
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,458
So he overrode
D'Amato's concerns.
732
00:33:04,458 --> 00:33:07,208
[Farrell] When Patterson
finally agrees to fight Sonny,
733
00:33:07,291 --> 00:33:09,458
it's seen as some supreme
act of charity
734
00:33:09,542 --> 00:33:10,667
instead of what it really was,
which was, you know,
735
00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:13,041
an obligation.
736
00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:15,417
I personally think that he
has every right
737
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,792
to fight for the championship
despite his--
738
00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:20,583
despite his unfortunate
background.
739
00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:24,917
♪♪♪
740
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:29,750
How excited was I when Sonny
signed for the heavyweight
741
00:33:29,834 --> 00:33:32,291
championship of the world?
742
00:33:32,375 --> 00:33:34,917
Very excite--I just knew we
were going to become
743
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,250
the heavyweight champion.
I knew it.
744
00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:39,625
That was his ambition in life.
745
00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:42,333
[Farrell] Sonny wanted
this title
746
00:33:42,417 --> 00:33:44,333
because he thought it
would complete him.
747
00:33:45,166 --> 00:33:47,875
Even with all that
had happened--
748
00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:50,834
the congressional hearings,
the dozens and dozens
749
00:33:50,917 --> 00:33:53,583
of rousting by cops,
the--the press--
750
00:33:53,667 --> 00:33:55,583
it's one of the happiest times
in his life.
751
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:56,458
He had the fight
of his dreams.
752
00:33:56,542 --> 00:34:00,208
[laughter]
753
00:34:00,291 --> 00:34:03,875
[Izenberg] They make the fight.
It's gonna be in Chicago.
754
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,875
So I've immediately decided I'm
gonna go to Floyd's camp first.
755
00:34:06,959 --> 00:34:07,959
He's the champion.
756
00:34:08,041 --> 00:34:08,458
Let's see what he has to say.
757
00:34:08,542 --> 00:34:09,875
♪♪♪
758
00:34:09,959 --> 00:34:12,291
It was the county poor farm.
759
00:34:12,375 --> 00:34:14,542
Rolling green hills.
760
00:34:14,625 --> 00:34:17,583
Blossoms,
birdies tweeting.
761
00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:18,959
And little bunny rabbits
hopping across the road.
762
00:34:19,041 --> 00:34:24,834
And I said,
"This is Floyd Patterson's
763
00:34:24,917 --> 00:34:27,417
emotional home."
764
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,917
He's got two chances--
slim and none.
765
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,625
♪♪♪
766
00:34:34,709 --> 00:34:38,166
Now I go to see Sonny Liston.
767
00:34:38,875 --> 00:34:41,834
We walk down
this concrete corridor
768
00:34:41,917 --> 00:34:45,000
which is ten degrees colder
than outside.
769
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:49,875
Sonny's taking these medicine
balls to the stomach.
770
00:34:49,959 --> 00:34:51,208
Boom, boom, boom.
771
00:34:51,291 --> 00:34:53,500
And I'm looking
at Sonny's face.
772
00:34:53,583 --> 00:34:56,792
He all but yawned as the ball
hit his stomach.
773
00:34:56,875 --> 00:34:58,458
And I'm saying, "I thought
there was two chances
774
00:34:58,542 --> 00:35:02,333
for Floyd--slim and none.
Slim just went out the door."
775
00:35:03,417 --> 00:35:06,959
You feel that Liston is a
capable opponent, I'm sure.
776
00:35:07,041 --> 00:35:11,625
Sure, I feel that, uh, he's
a bit above and beyond capable.
777
00:35:11,709 --> 00:35:14,709
♪♪♪
778
00:35:14,792 --> 00:35:16,458
[Lipsyte] Before the fight,
Sonny Liston goes into
779
00:35:16,542 --> 00:35:17,667
a Spartan condition.
780
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:20,375
He really kind of picked up
the rhythm of his training.
781
00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:24,000
They were longer,
they were harder sessions.
782
00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:28,083
He really looked leaner
and harder and faster.
783
00:35:29,458 --> 00:35:31,792
He gets himself into
the best condition
784
00:35:31,875 --> 00:35:34,083
he will ever be
for the rest of his life.
785
00:35:34,166 --> 00:35:35,875
♪♪♪
786
00:35:35,959 --> 00:35:37,667
He's prime to fight and try
to take the title.
787
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:41,375
♪♪♪
788
00:35:41,458 --> 00:35:43,542
[Roberts] Floyd Patterson,
Sonny Liston fight--
789
00:35:43,625 --> 00:35:45,583
there's been very few other
fights like it.
790
00:35:45,667 --> 00:35:48,041
Very few in boxing history.
791
00:35:48,125 --> 00:35:52,375
I mean, in boxing, you always
want a good guy and a bad guy.
792
00:35:52,458 --> 00:35:54,500
You want a black hat
and a white hat,
793
00:35:54,583 --> 00:35:56,375
and you want
the white hat to win.
794
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:58,375
Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling,
795
00:35:58,458 --> 00:36:02,500
representative of democracy
versus Nazi fascism.
796
00:36:02,583 --> 00:36:06,333
Well, the Patterson-Liston
fight was the same thing.
797
00:36:06,417 --> 00:36:09,250
I mean, it's good versus evil.
798
00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:11,959
Fight, no.
It was a morality play.
799
00:36:12,041 --> 00:36:14,917
♪♪♪
800
00:36:20,208 --> 00:36:22,250
When Liston goes
into the ring,
801
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:26,875
figuratively wearing his
black hat, he's booed.
802
00:36:26,959 --> 00:36:29,000
It's almost as if you're
in a movie.
803
00:36:29,083 --> 00:36:32,625
[crowd booing]
804
00:36:32,709 --> 00:36:33,959
[Izenberg] I remember when
they came in the ring.
805
00:36:34,041 --> 00:36:37,083
Liston was simply staring
806
00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:41,875
across the ring at Patterson.
807
00:36:41,959 --> 00:36:43,417
And Patterson was trying
not to look,
808
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,583
but every once in a while,
he looked.
809
00:36:45,667 --> 00:36:48,458
And Cus D'Amato's saying,
"I have faith in you.
810
00:36:48,542 --> 00:36:50,417
You can do it."
811
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:51,458
It's a miracle he wasn't
struck by lightning,
812
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,625
because he didn't have
any faith in him.
813
00:36:53,709 --> 00:36:54,750
♪ dramatic music ♪
814
00:36:54,834 --> 00:36:56,959
[Farrell] Sonny Liston didn't
come out looking
815
00:36:57,041 --> 00:36:59,333
to knock
Floyd's head off.
816
00:36:59,417 --> 00:37:01,083
That's just not
the way he fought.
817
00:37:01,166 --> 00:37:04,417
Liston was really a very,
very complete fighter.
818
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,458
He took opportunities as they
presented themselves,
819
00:37:07,542 --> 00:37:10,291
and if you see the fight,
you see that actually
820
00:37:10,375 --> 00:37:14,166
Patterson appears to be
the more aggressive initially.
821
00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:18,417
♪♪♪
822
00:37:20,375 --> 00:37:23,333
Once he was on the inside,
you know,
823
00:37:23,417 --> 00:37:25,542
Liston just took him apart.
824
00:37:25,625 --> 00:37:28,083
And Liston just moves in,
catches him with a left,
825
00:37:28,166 --> 00:37:29,625
catch him with another left.
826
00:37:29,709 --> 00:37:33,291
♪♪♪
827
00:37:33,375 --> 00:37:34,667
[announcer] Solid left
to the cheekbone
828
00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:37,000
dropped the champion.
829
00:37:37,083 --> 00:37:38,875
[Tyson] Floyd just went down.
830
00:37:38,959 --> 00:37:41,000
He just couldn't take
the punishment and go down.
831
00:37:41,083 --> 00:37:42,000
It was too much power for him.
832
00:37:42,083 --> 00:37:45,834
Fight?
There was no fight.
833
00:37:45,917 --> 00:37:47,583
It--It was a slaughter.
834
00:37:47,667 --> 00:37:51,125
And Sonny Liston wins
the heavyweight championship
835
00:37:51,208 --> 00:37:51,542
of the world.
836
00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:00,667
[Majeski] When he became
heavyweight champ,
837
00:38:00,750 --> 00:38:02,917
I think the perception was he's
gonna be the title holder
838
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,333
for the next 20 years.
839
00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:06,709
Nobody's gonna beat this man.
840
00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:16,792
[Roberts] The stadium was
eerily quiet, almost funereal.
841
00:38:18,166 --> 00:38:21,875
In a way, it was a funeral.
A funeral for Patterson.
842
00:38:21,959 --> 00:38:26,041
A funeral for our visions
of what the boxing heavyweight
843
00:38:26,125 --> 00:38:27,625
champion should represent
and should be.
844
00:38:28,792 --> 00:38:32,834
It was not a great beginning
for the championship career
845
00:38:32,917 --> 00:38:34,834
of Sonny Liston.
846
00:38:34,917 --> 00:38:35,542
[announcer] And the new
champion
847
00:38:35,625 --> 00:38:36,917
is inarticulate in victory.
848
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,709
♪ dramatic music ♪
849
00:38:40,792 --> 00:38:42,542
♪♪♪
850
00:38:42,625 --> 00:38:46,709
[Izenberg] Sonny came into this
fight with a second goal.
851
00:38:46,792 --> 00:38:48,667
He wanted respect.
852
00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:52,208
Take a look at his life.
When was he respected?
853
00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:54,959
When his father was hitching
him up to a plow?
854
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:56,792
When the mob was using him?
855
00:38:58,083 --> 00:39:01,500
So after the fight, he was
absolutely euphoric
856
00:39:01,583 --> 00:39:05,458
because he knew Philadelphia
would welcome him
857
00:39:05,542 --> 00:39:08,792
with open arms
and his life would change.
858
00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:10,417
♪♪♪
859
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:11,792
[Long] It was mainly
for his image.
860
00:39:11,875 --> 00:39:15,625
You get to be the heavyweight
champ and you're not looked at
861
00:39:15,709 --> 00:39:17,250
as a criminal anymore.
862
00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:21,458
♪♪♪
863
00:39:26,834 --> 00:39:29,083
[Collins] Jack McKinney was
a boxing writer
864
00:39:29,166 --> 00:39:30,959
for the Philadelphia
Daily News,
865
00:39:31,041 --> 00:39:32,959
and he was the only writer
in Philadelphia
866
00:39:33,041 --> 00:39:35,417
that Sonny trusted.
867
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,834
He called City Hall
in Philadelphia
868
00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:41,000
to get some sort of greeting
for Sonny.
869
00:39:41,083 --> 00:39:43,667
♪♪♪
870
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:47,458
He had all these plans
that he told Jack about
871
00:39:47,542 --> 00:39:49,667
that, you know, he was gonna
turn his life around.
872
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:53,208
He thought he could be a role
model for young men
873
00:39:53,291 --> 00:39:54,959
and children.
Sonny loved children.
874
00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:58,250
♪♪♪
875
00:39:58,333 --> 00:40:00,041
[Izenberg] The plane lands,
he straightens his tie,
876
00:40:00,125 --> 00:40:02,792
and he's ready.
877
00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:04,291
♪♪♪
878
00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:06,959
[Collins] Walked into
the airport.
879
00:40:07,041 --> 00:40:09,959
♪♪♪
880
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:11,875
There was nobody there
to meet him.
881
00:40:11,959 --> 00:40:15,709
♪♪♪
882
00:40:15,792 --> 00:40:17,500
And he didn't say anything.
883
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:19,375
But Jack looks over at him
and he said
884
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:21,000
there was like a little lump
in his throat.
885
00:40:21,083 --> 00:40:26,250
♪♪♪
886
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:33,542
It finally sunk in that it
didn't matter what he did.
887
00:40:33,625 --> 00:40:35,333
He would never shake his past
888
00:40:35,417 --> 00:40:38,000
and he would never
be fully accepted.
889
00:40:38,083 --> 00:40:42,834
And I think that moment
where his life could have gone
890
00:40:42,917 --> 00:40:46,125
in one direction,
it went in the other.
891
00:40:46,208 --> 00:40:51,125
♪♪♪
892
00:40:51,208 --> 00:40:53,417
[Reddish Jr.] I received a
phone call from Sonny Liston
893
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:58,041
that night and he told me,
"Come on over."
894
00:40:58,125 --> 00:40:59,875
♪♪♪
895
00:40:59,959 --> 00:41:02,000
We just stayed up all night
and talked.
896
00:41:02,083 --> 00:41:05,583
♪♪♪
897
00:41:05,667 --> 00:41:08,875
All he wanted to do
was to be accepted
898
00:41:08,959 --> 00:41:12,166
as a normal human being.
899
00:41:12,250 --> 00:41:17,417
♪♪♪
900
00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:20,709
He was heartbroken.
901
00:41:20,792 --> 00:41:23,750
♪♪♪
902
00:41:23,834 --> 00:41:26,375
Well, that's life.
903
00:41:26,458 --> 00:41:30,625
♪♪♪
904
00:41:35,959 --> 00:41:39,208
[Roberts] The tragedy
of Sonny Liston's reign
905
00:41:39,291 --> 00:41:42,458
as heavyweight champion of
the world is nothing changed.
906
00:41:42,542 --> 00:41:45,375
The FBI impounded the money
to the fight.
907
00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:48,792
The police arrest him for going
too slow through a park.
908
00:41:51,083 --> 00:41:53,750
Sonny Liston is still
the despised,
909
00:41:53,834 --> 00:41:55,375
the hated,
the hassled.
910
00:41:55,458 --> 00:41:57,709
He's not accepted.
911
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:01,417
[Assael] You know, this was not
the press's finest era.
912
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:04,083
♪♪♪
913
00:42:04,166 --> 00:42:05,875
Every invective,
every insult you could imagine
914
00:42:05,959 --> 00:42:10,458
being thrown at a black man
in America was thrown at Sonny.
915
00:42:10,542 --> 00:42:14,709
♪♪♪
916
00:42:19,166 --> 00:42:22,417
[Long] I was hurt,
really hurt.
917
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:24,542
You know, he'd come through
all of the other stuff
918
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:28,000
he'd been through and then to
get this far and then have to--
919
00:42:28,083 --> 00:42:29,417
it took him back, I thought.
920
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:30,667
♪♪♪
921
00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:33,417
And that didn't feel good
at all to me.
922
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:34,792
Mm-mm.
923
00:42:34,875 --> 00:42:36,875
♪♪♪
924
00:42:36,959 --> 00:42:41,625
[Collins] He wasn't a bad guy,
deep down inside.
925
00:42:41,709 --> 00:42:43,458
He'd done bad things.
926
00:42:43,542 --> 00:42:45,792
But he wanted, actually,
to be a good person.
927
00:42:45,875 --> 00:42:50,041
And after that, I don't think
he really gave a damn.
928
00:42:50,125 --> 00:42:53,166
The public is not
with me now,
929
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:56,625
but they'll have to swing along
until somebody else come along
930
00:42:56,709 --> 00:42:57,542
to beat me.
931
00:42:57,625 --> 00:43:01,792
He accepted it.
He tried to escape it.
932
00:43:01,875 --> 00:43:03,375
He went to Vegas.
933
00:43:03,458 --> 00:43:05,291
And we know what happened
in Vegas.
934
00:43:05,375 --> 00:43:06,625
♪♪♪
935
00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:09,959
Vegas, why hasn't he thought
of this before?
936
00:43:10,041 --> 00:43:11,500
It was a perfect town for him.
937
00:43:11,583 --> 00:43:12,667
♪ exciting music ♪
938
00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:15,583
Far from being dogged by
rumors about the mob.
939
00:43:15,667 --> 00:43:17,500
The mob ran Vegas.
940
00:43:17,583 --> 00:43:20,166
It was an institutional supply
of showgirls for him.
941
00:43:20,250 --> 00:43:22,166
His friend Joe Louis
was there.
942
00:43:22,250 --> 00:43:23,917
You know,
he loved the casinos.
943
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,583
Sonny loved Vegas,
and Vegas loved Sonny.
944
00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:27,667
It was a marriage made
in Heaven.
945
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:29,291
♪♪♪
946
00:43:29,375 --> 00:43:30,959
When Sonny comes off
the airplane,
947
00:43:31,041 --> 00:43:33,000
he's met by a jowly figure
in a shiny suit
948
00:43:33,083 --> 00:43:35,250
driving a Thunderbird named
Ash Resnik,
949
00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:37,125
who'll become a very central
figure in his life.
950
00:43:37,208 --> 00:43:38,959
♪♪♪
951
00:43:39,041 --> 00:43:43,792
My father came to Las Vegas
on the advice of a mobster
952
00:43:43,875 --> 00:43:46,041
named Charlie
"The Blade" Tourine,
953
00:43:46,125 --> 00:43:48,667
who probably was instrumental
in setting him up
954
00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:50,917
at the Thunderbird,
which was my father's first
955
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,667
casino job in Las Vegas.
956
00:43:52,750 --> 00:43:54,750
♪♪♪
957
00:43:54,834 --> 00:43:58,709
Every casino had some mob
influence back in the '60s.
958
00:43:58,792 --> 00:44:01,375
So you have to remember the
people who came to Las Vegas
959
00:44:01,458 --> 00:44:04,375
to join the legal gambling
industry had generally
960
00:44:04,458 --> 00:44:06,875
come from illegal
gambling elsewhere.
961
00:44:06,959 --> 00:44:08,709
♪♪♪
962
00:44:08,792 --> 00:44:10,917
[Assael] Ash fills
an important role.
963
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,208
The reason is that in Philly,
Carbo and Palermo
964
00:44:14,291 --> 00:44:15,375
both go to jail.
965
00:44:15,458 --> 00:44:17,917
♪♪♪
966
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,500
Ash is here in Vegas.
967
00:44:18,583 --> 00:44:20,709
He knows everybody.
968
00:44:20,792 --> 00:44:22,458
The important fights
are moving here.
969
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,125
[Izenberg] Sonny took an
immediate liking to him,
970
00:44:26,208 --> 00:44:28,750
and he took an immediate
liking to Sonny.
971
00:44:28,834 --> 00:44:30,291
And that relationship would
blossom into something
972
00:44:30,375 --> 00:44:31,959
very different.
973
00:44:32,041 --> 00:44:35,709
But at this point,
that could have been the most
974
00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:40,500
significant thing that happened
to Sonny while he was in Vegas
975
00:44:40,583 --> 00:44:41,625
on that trip.
976
00:44:41,709 --> 00:44:44,709
♪ dramatic music ♪
977
00:44:44,792 --> 00:44:48,917
♪♪♪
978
00:44:55,166 --> 00:44:57,834
[Farrell] The Floyd Patterson,
Sonny Liston rematch
979
00:44:57,917 --> 00:45:01,875
was held at the Las Vegas
convention center.
980
00:45:01,959 --> 00:45:05,083
Liston, who was disliked before
the first fight, if anything,
981
00:45:05,166 --> 00:45:07,125
was more disliked now.
982
00:45:07,208 --> 00:45:10,417
Since he'd entrenched himself,
he was now the champion.
983
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,458
And I think Patterson--
who was deeply beloved
984
00:45:13,542 --> 00:45:17,000
before the fight--if anything
was now held as a, you know,
985
00:45:17,083 --> 00:45:17,917
sort of last beacon
of hope.
986
00:45:22,667 --> 00:45:24,583
[announcer] Floyd is down
for the third time.
987
00:45:24,667 --> 00:45:26,834
Lightning has struck again
in the same round
988
00:45:26,917 --> 00:45:28,500
as the first fight.
989
00:45:28,583 --> 00:45:29,792
The only difference
in the fight, really,
990
00:45:29,875 --> 00:45:31,792
was it lasted
four seconds longer.
991
00:45:31,875 --> 00:45:34,083
Two minutes and ten seconds
and, boop, that's it.
992
00:45:34,166 --> 00:45:36,667
[announcer] Sonny Liston again
knocks out Floyd Patterson
993
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:40,041
in one round
to successfully defend
994
00:45:40,125 --> 00:45:42,458
his world heavyweight
title.
995
00:45:42,542 --> 00:45:45,959
The one thing significant
about Patterson-Liston II
996
00:45:46,041 --> 00:45:51,041
is we got a glimpse of the
future of professional sports.
997
00:45:51,875 --> 00:45:54,375
At the end of the fight,
a guy by the name
998
00:45:54,458 --> 00:45:59,333
of Cassius Clay jumps in the
ring and puts on a performance.
999
00:45:59,417 --> 00:46:03,041
♪♪♪
1000
00:46:03,125 --> 00:46:05,417
At the time, the public
thought Cassius Clay
1001
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:07,166
was crazy because
he jumped in the ring
1002
00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:10,542
threatening Sonny Liston
after the Patterson fight.
1003
00:46:10,625 --> 00:46:13,333
You've gotta remember nobody
challenged Sonny Liston.
1004
00:46:13,417 --> 00:46:16,917
Now, here's this up and coming
young fighter jumping in,
1005
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,333
tell him, "I want you.
I want you.
1006
00:46:18,417 --> 00:46:19,875
You ugly."
1007
00:46:19,959 --> 00:46:22,500
You know, he didn't know
what to think.
1008
00:46:22,583 --> 00:46:23,917
♪♪♪
1009
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,458
[Izenberg] This is really
a low-class burlesque.
1010
00:46:28,542 --> 00:46:30,500
However, um, nobody went broke
1011
00:46:30,583 --> 00:46:33,792
underestimating the mentality
1012
00:46:33,875 --> 00:46:36,166
of the American boxing fan.
1013
00:46:36,250 --> 00:46:38,000
So they ate it up.
1014
00:46:38,083 --> 00:46:39,709
The media fell
in love with him.
1015
00:46:39,792 --> 00:46:44,542
He was an easy story,
this, you know,
1016
00:46:44,625 --> 00:46:47,000
a narcissistic loudmouth.
1017
00:46:47,083 --> 00:46:48,333
It's like covering Trump.
1018
00:46:48,417 --> 00:46:49,208
Well, let me finish.
Let me talk.
1019
00:46:49,291 --> 00:46:50,875
This boy's modest.
I'm the greatest.
1020
00:46:50,959 --> 00:46:52,375
He's not a talker.
1021
00:46:52,458 --> 00:46:53,750
I'm gonna fight Sonny Liston
right after
1022
00:46:53,834 --> 00:46:55,333
I annihilate Henry Cooper.
1023
00:46:55,417 --> 00:46:56,709
And as soon as I annihilate
Henry Cooper,
1024
00:46:56,792 --> 00:46:59,041
I want that big ugly bear
right in, uh,
1025
00:46:59,125 --> 00:47:00,125
right here on Miami Beach.
1026
00:47:00,208 --> 00:47:02,834
[Collins] Cassius Clay
bugged Sonny Liston
1027
00:47:02,917 --> 00:47:04,583
even before the fight
was signed.
1028
00:47:04,667 --> 00:47:07,917
It was part of his
psychological warfare.
1029
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,834
He had a bus that he took
to Sonny's house
1030
00:47:12,917 --> 00:47:14,041
in the middle of the night
screaming and yelling.
1031
00:47:14,125 --> 00:47:16,500
[Roberts] "You gotta fight me!
You gotta fight me!
1032
00:47:16,583 --> 00:47:18,166
I'm the champion!"
1033
00:47:18,250 --> 00:47:20,250
Lights are going off around
the neighborhood.
1034
00:47:20,333 --> 00:47:21,500
It pulls the police out there.
1035
00:47:21,583 --> 00:47:24,792
Last thing Sonny Liston wants
at his house are the police.
1036
00:47:25,792 --> 00:47:30,041
He did anything he could
think of to rattle Sonny.
1037
00:47:30,125 --> 00:47:32,083
And let's face it,
he was pretty creative.
1038
00:47:32,166 --> 00:47:33,917
♪♪♪
1039
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,959
He hunts Sonny Liston
down in Vegas.
1040
00:47:36,041 --> 00:47:37,250
Sonny Liston is shooting
craps.
1041
00:47:37,333 --> 00:47:41,291
Cassius Clay shows up and says,
"You can't even shoot craps!
1042
00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:43,583
You're a loser!"
1043
00:47:43,667 --> 00:47:45,583
It just pissed
Sonny Liston off.
1044
00:47:45,667 --> 00:47:47,583
You don't mess
with Sonny Liston
1045
00:47:47,667 --> 00:47:48,750
when he's about
to throw the dice.
1046
00:47:48,834 --> 00:47:51,333
So he got slapped
for his trouble.
1047
00:47:51,417 --> 00:47:54,166
♪♪♪
1048
00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:55,917
All of a sudden he said,
"Yeah, we're gonna fight.
1049
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,792
I'm gonna kill you."
1050
00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,959
Sonny Liston took the fight
because he thought he could
1051
00:48:00,041 --> 00:48:01,000
destroy Cassius Clay.
1052
00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:04,166
Don't you have any respect
for him at all
1053
00:48:04,250 --> 00:48:05,166
as a fighter?
1054
00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:07,083
As a fighter?
1055
00:48:07,166 --> 00:48:10,250
I think he should be locked up
for impersonating a fighter.
1056
00:48:11,917 --> 00:48:12,709
[Roberts] The promotion
of the fight
1057
00:48:12,792 --> 00:48:17,208
began as a classic
promotion.
1058
00:48:17,291 --> 00:48:18,959
Sonny Liston was very
comfortable wearing
1059
00:48:19,041 --> 00:48:20,959
the black hat by this time.
1060
00:48:21,041 --> 00:48:23,542
He knew that was the only one
he was going to wear.
1061
00:48:23,625 --> 00:48:27,000
But then suddenly rumors
appear that Cassius Clay
1062
00:48:27,083 --> 00:48:30,959
has secretly joined
the Nation of Islam.
1063
00:48:31,041 --> 00:48:33,125
The Nation of Islam
at this time is viewed
1064
00:48:33,208 --> 00:48:36,750
as an anti-white
hate organization.
1065
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:40,041
[Assael] I'd be like Rocky
Marciano saying, "I'm a member
1066
00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:41,333
of the Ku Klux Klan."
1067
00:48:41,417 --> 00:48:42,834
It shocks white America.
1068
00:48:42,917 --> 00:48:45,417
It shocks a lot
of black America.
1069
00:48:46,417 --> 00:48:47,542
[Jeffries] The only thing
scarier to white America
1070
00:48:47,625 --> 00:48:50,792
than the black brute
1071
00:48:50,875 --> 00:48:54,959
is the black brute who is
articulate and smart.
1072
00:48:55,792 --> 00:48:57,875
And that's what,
to white America,
1073
00:48:57,959 --> 00:48:59,709
the Nation of Islam was.
1074
00:48:59,792 --> 00:49:02,291
We know that we're going
to lose a few,
1075
00:49:02,375 --> 00:49:04,959
but we know that God going
to kill all of you.
1076
00:49:05,041 --> 00:49:06,000
[cheering]
1077
00:49:06,083 --> 00:49:08,000
[Jeffries] The head of the
Nation of Islam
1078
00:49:08,083 --> 00:49:10,291
was Elijah Muhammad.
1079
00:49:10,375 --> 00:49:15,000
But it's Malcolm X--
his principal recruit--
1080
00:49:15,083 --> 00:49:16,500
uh, who has the charisma.
1081
00:49:16,583 --> 00:49:19,792
♪♪♪
1082
00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:23,166
[Rigueur] He provides
a very stark contrast
1083
00:49:23,250 --> 00:49:26,208
with the respectability model
1084
00:49:26,291 --> 00:49:29,709
of middle class civil rights
organizations.
1085
00:49:29,792 --> 00:49:32,083
Malcolm X is saying,
1086
00:49:32,166 --> 00:49:34,625
"Violence is as American
as apple pie."
1087
00:49:34,709 --> 00:49:37,709
That's our motto.
1088
00:49:37,792 --> 00:49:40,458
We want freedom
by any means necessary.
1089
00:49:40,542 --> 00:49:44,041
[Rigueur] He is speaking a
language of the dispossessed.
1090
00:49:44,125 --> 00:49:47,542
He is speaking a language
of people
1091
00:49:47,625 --> 00:49:50,166
that have felt powerless.
1092
00:49:50,250 --> 00:49:51,792
This is kind of going into
this narrative
1093
00:49:51,875 --> 00:49:54,583
that Clay has grown up with.
1094
00:49:54,667 --> 00:49:57,959
♪♪♪
1095
00:49:58,041 --> 00:50:00,166
When Malcolm X starts
showing up and seeming
1096
00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:02,041
buddy-buddy with Cassius Clay,
1097
00:50:02,125 --> 00:50:05,000
it scares the hell
out of promoters.
1098
00:50:05,083 --> 00:50:07,250
[Kilroy] They wanted to
keep--to keep him quiet.
1099
00:50:07,333 --> 00:50:09,583
They didn't want him
to say he belonged
1100
00:50:09,667 --> 00:50:12,166
to the Nation of Islam
because they were afraid no one
1101
00:50:12,250 --> 00:50:13,709
would come to their fight,
1102
00:50:13,792 --> 00:50:15,041
or no one would go
to Closed Circuit.
1103
00:50:15,125 --> 00:50:16,125
♪♪♪
1104
00:50:16,208 --> 00:50:19,375
[Jeffries] This gives Liston
the chance
1105
00:50:19,458 --> 00:50:23,583
to be the hero that he had
never been before.
1106
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,417
If he wins, he will be thanked
by white America
1107
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,083
for shutting that dude up.
1108
00:50:30,166 --> 00:50:34,291
♪♪♪
1109
00:50:37,709 --> 00:50:39,583
[Roberts] The Liston-Clay fight
in Miami
1110
00:50:39,667 --> 00:50:43,333
in February of 1964
1111
00:50:43,417 --> 00:50:47,000
was a pivotal moment, really,
in American history.
1112
00:50:47,083 --> 00:50:48,875
America was--was changing.
1113
00:50:48,959 --> 00:50:52,542
Changing in fundamental ways.
1114
00:50:52,625 --> 00:50:54,792
In November, the President
of the United States--
1115
00:50:54,875 --> 00:50:57,125
John F. Kennedy--had been
assassinated.
1116
00:50:57,208 --> 00:50:58,250
♪♪♪
1117
00:50:58,333 --> 00:51:02,125
The country had gone into
a period of mourning.
1118
00:51:02,208 --> 00:51:04,542
♪♪♪
1119
00:51:04,625 --> 00:51:07,625
Then in February,
there was a glacial shift
1120
00:51:07,709 --> 00:51:11,333
in American culture.
1121
00:51:11,417 --> 00:51:15,750
In music, the Beatles arrive
from Great Britain.
1122
00:51:15,834 --> 00:51:18,250
Everybody recognized
something's changing.
1123
00:51:18,333 --> 00:51:20,500
There's a new wave
coming in.
1124
00:51:21,542 --> 00:51:23,208
Then you have this
young brash--
1125
00:51:23,291 --> 00:51:27,000
a fighter like no other,
Cassius Clay.
1126
00:51:27,083 --> 00:51:31,583
So the Liston-Clay fight
has to be viewed
1127
00:51:31,667 --> 00:51:32,959
in this continuum.
1128
00:51:33,041 --> 00:51:36,500
♪♪♪
1129
00:51:36,583 --> 00:51:40,709
Malcolm X goes into Clay's
locker room and says to Clay,
1130
00:51:40,792 --> 00:51:42,333
"This is the cross
and the crescent--
1131
00:51:42,417 --> 00:51:43,667
Christianity versus
the Nation of Islam."
1132
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:46,542
♪♪♪
1133
00:51:46,625 --> 00:51:49,667
So he's sure that this fight's
going to be important.
1134
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:51,000
And sure enough, he's right.
1135
00:51:51,083 --> 00:51:53,834
♪♪♪
1136
00:51:53,917 --> 00:51:55,750
[Kilroy] Everybody was
talking about it.
1137
00:51:55,834 --> 00:51:58,333
It was one of the biggest
sporting events in history,
1138
00:51:58,417 --> 00:52:00,792
not only in the United States,
all over the world.
1139
00:52:00,875 --> 00:52:02,709
♪♪♪
1140
00:52:02,792 --> 00:52:05,125
Most of the people--
75 percent of them--
1141
00:52:05,208 --> 00:52:07,959
thought Sonny Liston would
destroy Cassius Clay.
1142
00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:09,542
He may end up
in the morgue.
1143
00:52:09,625 --> 00:52:15,542
♪♪♪
1144
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:20,000
Liston is prepared
for a quick knockout.
1145
00:52:20,083 --> 00:52:22,583
Liston comes after him.
He can't get him.
1146
00:52:22,667 --> 00:52:24,709
Cassius Clay's not throwing
any punches at first.
1147
00:52:24,792 --> 00:52:26,667
He's just moving.
1148
00:52:26,750 --> 00:52:28,959
[announcer] Cassius Clay's
on the move, as we see,
1149
00:52:29,041 --> 00:52:30,875
looking to get Sonny
to lunge.
1150
00:52:30,959 --> 00:52:33,083
♪ dramatic music ♪
1151
00:52:33,166 --> 00:52:35,917
Cassius Clay was outthinking
Sonny Liston.
1152
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,750
Liston was fighting
to the death,
1153
00:52:37,834 --> 00:52:39,959
but he wasn't fighting Sonny.
He was running through Sonny.
1154
00:52:40,041 --> 00:52:41,000
And that threw Sonny off.
1155
00:52:41,083 --> 00:52:43,500
But as he got close
to the bell,
1156
00:52:43,583 --> 00:52:46,375
he threw a flurry of punches
that all landed.
1157
00:52:46,458 --> 00:52:49,583
And that was
to let Liston know
1158
00:52:49,667 --> 00:52:50,750
that he had something too.
1159
00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:54,041
♪♪♪
1160
00:52:54,125 --> 00:52:56,250
And I'm saying,
"That son of a bitch.
1161
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:58,208
I can't believe he's doing
this to Liston.
1162
00:52:58,291 --> 00:52:59,417
It's gotta be a trap.
1163
00:52:59,500 --> 00:53:01,583
Liston's gotta be setting
a trap."
1164
00:53:01,667 --> 00:53:03,208
[Roberts] But then Clay starts
hitting him.
1165
00:53:03,291 --> 00:53:04,667
Hitting him
a little bit harder.
1166
00:53:04,750 --> 00:53:06,500
Right crosses,
right leads.
1167
00:53:06,583 --> 00:53:08,959
[announcer] Sonny rattled,
Sonny rattled.
1168
00:53:09,041 --> 00:53:11,750
Cassius has him hurt!
1169
00:53:11,834 --> 00:53:15,125
And all of a sudden there's
puffiness under Liston's eye.
1170
00:53:15,208 --> 00:53:17,917
And then suddenly in
the third round, boom.
1171
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,750
[announcer] He has a cut
below the eye
1172
00:53:19,834 --> 00:53:23,458
and he's getting hit with
all the punches in the book.
1173
00:53:23,542 --> 00:53:26,083
Liston had never been cut
before in a fight.
1174
00:53:26,166 --> 00:53:27,709
[Izenberg] Whoever was there
1175
00:53:27,792 --> 00:53:28,625
saw the blood
and then we went--
1176
00:53:28,709 --> 00:53:29,583
[gasps]
1177
00:53:29,667 --> 00:53:32,208
It was like the room
was a giant vacuum
1178
00:53:32,291 --> 00:53:35,083
and suddenly sucked all the air
out of it.
1179
00:53:35,166 --> 00:53:38,208
And then when the bell rang
and Liston was still upright--
1180
00:53:38,291 --> 00:53:39,458
[sighs]
All the air went out again.
1181
00:53:39,542 --> 00:53:42,625
Now, the fourth round was a,
uh, notorious round.
1182
00:53:42,709 --> 00:53:46,792
Clay started to feel a burning
sensation in his eye.
1183
00:53:46,875 --> 00:53:49,625
And it got worse.
1184
00:53:49,709 --> 00:53:51,291
He told Angelo Dundee,
his trainer,
1185
00:53:51,375 --> 00:53:55,000
"Cut the gloves off.
I can't see.
1186
00:53:55,083 --> 00:53:56,333
We're going home."
1187
00:53:56,417 --> 00:53:58,917
[Roberts] The question in
Clay's corner is,
1188
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,458
what happened?
1189
00:54:00,542 --> 00:54:03,834
Can we get this guy out
fighting again?
1190
00:54:05,458 --> 00:54:10,166
[Collins] What got in Clay's
eyes is a matter of debate.
1191
00:54:10,250 --> 00:54:12,458
Boxers use liniment sometimes
on themselves
1192
00:54:12,542 --> 00:54:13,792
to--muscle aches
and stuff like that.
1193
00:54:13,875 --> 00:54:19,041
The original theory was some of
that had got on Liston's glove
1194
00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:21,208
and accidentally got into
Clay's eyes.
1195
00:54:21,291 --> 00:54:24,333
I don't think that's
what happened.
1196
00:54:24,417 --> 00:54:26,542
Other fighters who had fought
Liston--Cleveland Williams,
1197
00:54:26,625 --> 00:54:29,000
Eddie Machen--had complained
that something had gotten
1198
00:54:29,083 --> 00:54:31,875
in their eyes--Monsel's
solution in their eyes.
1199
00:54:31,959 --> 00:54:34,166
The belief was--and that we
have some evidence--
1200
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:36,375
that Liston's gloves
were loaded.
1201
00:54:36,458 --> 00:54:38,583
Now, all hell breaks loose
in that corner.
1202
00:54:38,667 --> 00:54:41,834
That was not a corner of great
decorum ever anyway,
1203
00:54:41,917 --> 00:54:44,083
with Bundini and with Angelo.
1204
00:54:44,166 --> 00:54:46,417
[announcer] That's Angelo
Dundee
1205
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:47,417
that he was arguing
with, Joe.
1206
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:49,500
Angelo now is telling him
off a little bit
1207
00:54:49,583 --> 00:54:50,542
while he gets him ready.
1208
00:54:50,625 --> 00:54:53,083
[Collins] Angelo Dundee
was an old pro.
1209
00:54:53,166 --> 00:54:54,417
He knew what to do.
1210
00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:56,375
He said,
"Cut this bullshit out.
1211
00:54:56,458 --> 00:54:58,875
Go out there and run."
1212
00:54:58,959 --> 00:55:02,834
[Roberts] And that led
to the dramatic round five.
1213
00:55:02,917 --> 00:55:05,417
The belief was Clay's
gonna get killed.
1214
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:06,500
[announcer] His eyes
are bothering him.
1215
00:55:06,583 --> 00:55:09,709
They're yelling from
Cassius Clay's corner.
1216
00:55:09,792 --> 00:55:11,500
[Rahmen Muhammad] Bundini was
working the corner.
1217
00:55:11,583 --> 00:55:14,041
And Bundini was saying,
"Keep a yard stick out there!
1218
00:55:14,125 --> 00:55:15,417
Keep a yard stick--"
1219
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:17,709
That mean keep
the left hand out.
1220
00:55:17,792 --> 00:55:18,583
'Cause Sonny was trying
to come at him,
1221
00:55:18,667 --> 00:55:21,542
but literally the man
was blind.
1222
00:55:21,625 --> 00:55:22,125
♪♪♪
1223
00:55:22,208 --> 00:55:23,709
Liston hits him a lot.
1224
00:55:23,792 --> 00:55:27,208
♪♪♪
1225
00:55:27,291 --> 00:55:29,041
Liston just can't hurt him,
1226
00:55:29,125 --> 00:55:30,959
can't knock him out.
1227
00:55:31,041 --> 00:55:33,709
And by the end of the round,
the last minute of the round,
1228
00:55:33,792 --> 00:55:37,208
Clay's eyes had cleared and
Clay just takes him apart.
1229
00:55:37,291 --> 00:55:38,917
Hits him with everything.
1230
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,208
Hits him with hooks.
1231
00:55:41,291 --> 00:55:42,750
Hits him with jabs.
1232
00:55:42,834 --> 00:55:44,625
Hits him with
right hand leads.
1233
00:55:44,709 --> 00:55:45,458
[bell rings]
1234
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:50,959
[Collins] When Liston flopped
his butt down on the stool
1235
00:55:51,041 --> 00:55:51,959
at the end of the sixth round,
1236
00:55:52,041 --> 00:55:55,250
he said, "That's it."
1237
00:55:55,333 --> 00:55:56,583
Willie Reddish didn't know
what he was saying.
1238
00:55:56,667 --> 00:56:00,458
He put the mouthpiece in
to go out for the next round.
1239
00:56:00,542 --> 00:56:03,792
Sonny spit it out and he said,
"I said that's it."
1240
00:56:03,875 --> 00:56:05,750
And that was the end
of the fight.
1241
00:56:05,834 --> 00:56:06,667
[bell rings]
1242
00:56:06,750 --> 00:56:08,959
[announcer] They might be
stopping it.
1243
00:56:09,041 --> 00:56:10,709
That might be all,
ladies and gentlemen.
1244
00:56:10,792 --> 00:56:13,083
I think it was unacceptable
that Sonny Liston didn't get
1245
00:56:13,166 --> 00:56:14,125
off the stool.
1246
00:56:14,208 --> 00:56:17,166
He should have carried on.
1247
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:18,917
[Lipsyte] If you're heavyweight
champion,
1248
00:56:19,041 --> 00:56:20,500
you die trying.
1249
00:56:20,583 --> 00:56:23,291
But he just kind of sat there.
1250
00:56:23,375 --> 00:56:25,583
He gave up.
1251
00:56:26,583 --> 00:56:27,500
Why did he give up?
1252
00:56:27,583 --> 00:56:31,125
And this, of course,
is the mystery
1253
00:56:31,208 --> 00:56:32,917
at the heart of it all.
1254
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,166
Did he give up because
he was in such
1255
00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:39,375
terrible agony
he couldn't move?
1256
00:56:39,458 --> 00:56:42,417
Did he give up because
he suddenly realized
1257
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:44,542
he couldn't win this fight?
1258
00:56:44,625 --> 00:56:47,458
Did he give up because he had
been paid
1259
00:56:47,542 --> 00:56:50,458
to dump it at some point?
1260
00:56:50,542 --> 00:56:52,250
Um, who knows?
1261
00:56:52,333 --> 00:56:56,750
♪♪♪
1262
00:56:58,625 --> 00:57:00,709
[Farrell] There were two
Clay-Liston fights.
1263
00:57:00,792 --> 00:57:04,166
The first fight
was the real fix.
1264
00:57:04,250 --> 00:57:07,500
And let me talk about that
a little bit.
1265
00:57:08,583 --> 00:57:11,333
The mob isn't in the boxing
business to do anything
1266
00:57:11,417 --> 00:57:14,166
other than to make money.
1267
00:57:14,250 --> 00:57:16,834
The odds were eight to one.
1268
00:57:16,917 --> 00:57:20,000
They could make a tremendous
amount of money
1269
00:57:20,083 --> 00:57:21,291
betting against Liston.
1270
00:57:21,375 --> 00:57:24,458
That was where the money
really was.
1271
00:57:24,542 --> 00:57:26,667
You know, a guy who would have
had to go years and years
1272
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:31,083
fighting fights that didn't
interest the public.
1273
00:57:31,166 --> 00:57:36,125
Or you cash him in--this old
guy--right away.
1274
00:57:36,834 --> 00:57:38,834
This is really boxing 101.
1275
00:57:38,917 --> 00:57:40,750
[Roberts] I think it's utter
nonsense to say
1276
00:57:40,834 --> 00:57:42,667
that first fight was fixed.
1277
00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:46,375
If Sonny was trying
to fix the fight,
1278
00:57:46,458 --> 00:57:49,291
why was he loading up his
gloves before round four?
1279
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:52,834
He was loading up the gloves
to blind Clay
1280
00:57:52,917 --> 00:57:54,000
to win the fight.
1281
00:57:54,083 --> 00:57:56,208
[Rahmen Muhammad] Sonny wanted
to kill that man.
1282
00:57:56,291 --> 00:57:58,417
I guarantee and just about put
my life on it.
1283
00:57:58,500 --> 00:57:59,625
That wasn't no fix.
1284
00:57:59,709 --> 00:58:00,250
That was a good ass whooping.
1285
00:58:00,333 --> 00:58:04,000
♪ dramatic music ♪
1286
00:58:04,083 --> 00:58:09,208
♪♪♪
1287
00:58:12,792 --> 00:58:16,166
[Long] When Sonny lost the
title, it made me feel
1288
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:17,875
really, really, really sad.
1289
00:58:17,959 --> 00:58:19,542
♪♪♪
1290
00:58:19,625 --> 00:58:21,417
I mean, I cried.
I actually cried.
1291
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,375
So, my uncle got beat up?
1292
00:58:24,458 --> 00:58:26,417
You know, that's the term
I could remember using.
1293
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:27,667
♪♪♪
1294
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:29,792
Beat my uncle Charles up?
Oh, no.
1295
00:58:29,875 --> 00:58:31,250
That didn't go well at all
with me.
1296
00:58:31,333 --> 00:58:33,333
♪♪♪
1297
00:58:33,417 --> 00:58:36,417
I was anticipating Sonny
holding onto that title
1298
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:38,250
for at least five, six years.
1299
00:58:38,333 --> 00:58:42,250
Make himself
$30, 40 million,
1300
00:58:42,333 --> 00:58:45,709
whatever the case may be,
1301
00:58:45,792 --> 00:58:48,583
and live a good life.
1302
00:58:48,667 --> 00:58:51,917
But that wasn't the plan.
1303
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,750
♪♪♪
1304
00:58:54,834 --> 00:58:57,083
[Assael] Sonny didn't have a
friend after that fight.
1305
00:58:57,166 --> 00:58:58,792
Maybe Ash.
1306
00:58:58,875 --> 00:58:59,417
But otherwise, Sonny didn't
have a friend.
1307
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,333
I mean, Sonny was toxic.
1308
00:59:01,417 --> 00:59:03,542
I mean, really radioactive.
1309
00:59:03,625 --> 00:59:07,542
Reporters--who are looking
to descend on him anyway--
1310
00:59:07,625 --> 00:59:11,500
came at him hard
like a group of vultures.
1311
00:59:11,583 --> 00:59:13,834
The press was saying
Sonny was a dog.
1312
00:59:13,917 --> 00:59:14,834
Sonny was a quitter.
1313
00:59:14,917 --> 00:59:16,417
Sonny threw the fight.
I mean, there were--
1314
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,208
You know,
they couldn't explain it.
1315
00:59:19,291 --> 00:59:21,959
It only added
to his bad reputation,
1316
00:59:22,041 --> 00:59:24,834
not as an individual,
but as a fighter.
1317
00:59:24,917 --> 00:59:27,166
And it was probably the worst
thing he did in his career.
1318
00:59:27,250 --> 00:59:30,750
♪♪♪
1319
00:59:33,208 --> 00:59:36,083
[Lipsyte] The second fight
was booked to be in Boston.
1320
00:59:36,166 --> 00:59:38,375
The Kennedys pushed it
out of Boston
1321
00:59:38,458 --> 00:59:42,250
because of the criminality
around Liston.
1322
00:59:42,333 --> 00:59:44,458
So it ended up in
Lewiston, Maine.
1323
00:59:44,542 --> 00:59:45,458
[Izenberg] Lewiston, Maine.
1324
00:59:45,542 --> 00:59:48,333
Small town on
the Canadian border
1325
00:59:48,417 --> 00:59:50,583
known for having
a bedspread factory there.
1326
00:59:50,667 --> 00:59:52,000
That's pretty much all it had.
1327
00:59:52,083 --> 00:59:56,417
♪♪♪
1328
00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:59,291
There was so much tension
around that fight.
1329
00:59:59,375 --> 01:00:02,500
There was two controversial
characters fighting
1330
01:00:02,583 --> 01:00:04,667
and, you know, a lot of stuff
was going on.
1331
01:00:04,750 --> 01:00:07,125
♪♪♪
1332
01:00:07,208 --> 01:00:09,667
[Izenberg] In the months
following that first fight,
1333
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:14,417
Elijah Muhammad gave Cassius
Clay the name Muhammad Ali.
1334
01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:16,041
Muhammad means
"worthy of all praises,"
1335
01:00:16,125 --> 01:00:18,166
and Ali means "most high."
1336
01:00:18,250 --> 01:00:19,792
Yes, sir, I wanna be called
by that name.
1337
01:00:19,875 --> 01:00:21,500
I write autographs
with that name.
1338
01:00:21,583 --> 01:00:23,500
I wanna be known all over
the world as that name.
1339
01:00:23,583 --> 01:00:25,500
You want us to call you
what name?
1340
01:00:25,583 --> 01:00:29,417
That is the furthest thing from
1341
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:31,834
sort of the minds of white folk
1342
01:00:31,917 --> 01:00:34,709
when it comes
to black respectability.
1343
01:00:34,792 --> 01:00:36,875
♪♪♪
1344
01:00:36,959 --> 01:00:39,834
[Roberts] Shortly after that,
Malcolm X was thrown out
1345
01:00:39,917 --> 01:00:43,875
of the Nation of Islam
by Elijah Muhammad.
1346
01:00:43,959 --> 01:00:46,208
That tension between
the two factions
1347
01:00:46,291 --> 01:00:47,959
just continues to build
1348
01:00:48,041 --> 01:00:50,917
with Elijah Muhammad and
others really pushing this
1349
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,250
idea that Malcolm is a traitor
and deserves no fate
1350
01:00:53,333 --> 01:00:55,792
other than death.
1351
01:00:55,875 --> 01:00:59,500
Malcolm X and anybody else
who attacks or talks about
1352
01:00:59,583 --> 01:01:03,333
attacking Elijah Muhammad
will die.
1353
01:01:03,417 --> 01:01:05,709
Just when you think the
social issues that are swirling
1354
01:01:05,792 --> 01:01:08,583
around boxing can't get
any more raw,
1355
01:01:08,667 --> 01:01:10,417
Malcolm X gets assassinated.
1356
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:14,667
♪♪♪
1357
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:17,166
Some thought that the Nation
was behind his assassination.
1358
01:01:17,250 --> 01:01:20,792
So to have Ali still fighting
under the banner of the Nation
1359
01:01:20,875 --> 01:01:24,583
adds this whole other overlay
to that fight.
1360
01:01:24,667 --> 01:01:27,625
So there was a real kind of
undercurrent
1361
01:01:27,709 --> 01:01:30,917
of existential terror
up in Lewiston, Maine.
1362
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:37,208
All sorts of rumors floating
around before this fight,
1363
01:01:37,291 --> 01:01:40,375
that there are people
who had supported Malcolm
1364
01:01:40,458 --> 01:01:43,959
that were going to come
to the fight and assassinate
1365
01:01:44,041 --> 01:01:45,750
Muhammad Ali.
1366
01:01:45,834 --> 01:01:47,792
♪♪♪
1367
01:01:47,875 --> 01:01:50,959
There were rumors going
around that white women
1368
01:01:51,041 --> 01:01:54,834
were going to be smuggling
hand guns into the arena
1369
01:01:54,917 --> 01:01:58,041
for their black lovers
to kill Cassius in the ring.
1370
01:01:58,125 --> 01:02:00,875
And so they abled these cops
and state troopers,
1371
01:02:00,959 --> 01:02:04,792
they were opening up women's
purses looking for guns,
1372
01:02:04,875 --> 01:02:07,959
while at the same time nobody
was guarding the doors
1373
01:02:08,041 --> 01:02:11,458
or the windows, and local kids
were climbing in.
1374
01:02:11,542 --> 01:02:13,250
It was--it was crazy.
1375
01:02:17,333 --> 01:02:18,875
[Izenberg] Sonny's plan
was very simple.
1376
01:02:18,959 --> 01:02:21,667
He would knock Ali out
in the first round.
1377
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,291
He would put such pressure
on him that Ali
1378
01:02:23,375 --> 01:02:24,375
would have to fall.
1379
01:02:24,458 --> 01:02:28,959
♪ dramatic music ♪
1380
01:02:29,041 --> 01:02:30,875
[Majeski] Liston got more
cheers than Ali.
1381
01:02:30,959 --> 01:02:33,000
They finally said,
"Well, between these two,
1382
01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:35,125
the lesser of the evils
is Sonny Liston.
1383
01:02:35,208 --> 01:02:38,500
So we'll cheer this ex-convict
who lost his title
1384
01:02:38,583 --> 01:02:41,500
on the stool rather than
root for a guy who says
1385
01:02:41,583 --> 01:02:43,333
he's a black Muslim
separatist."
1386
01:02:43,417 --> 01:02:47,041
The challenger,
Sonny Liston.
1387
01:02:47,125 --> 01:02:48,375
[cheers and applause]
1388
01:02:48,458 --> 01:02:51,583
[announcer] Sonny Liston very
popular with the folks here
1389
01:02:51,667 --> 01:02:53,750
in Lewiston, Maine.
No kidding about that.
1390
01:02:53,834 --> 01:02:54,792
[Majeski] He enjoyed that.
1391
01:02:54,875 --> 01:02:58,333
He sort of basked in that
kind of glory
1392
01:02:58,417 --> 01:02:59,750
for the first time in his life.
1393
01:03:00,917 --> 01:03:02,625
But then what happens
is the Kennedy assassination
1394
01:03:02,709 --> 01:03:04,959
of boxing.
Everybody's got an idea.
1395
01:03:05,041 --> 01:03:06,583
Nobody has the truth.
1396
01:03:06,667 --> 01:03:09,959
When the fight started,
it didn't last very long.
1397
01:03:10,041 --> 01:03:12,542
♪♪♪
1398
01:03:12,625 --> 01:03:16,709
There was hardly an exchange
when Liston went down.
1399
01:03:16,792 --> 01:03:19,041
I was at ringside and I
didn't really understand
1400
01:03:19,125 --> 01:03:20,542
what was going on.
1401
01:03:20,625 --> 01:03:22,125
I was sitting next
to Howard Cosell who had
1402
01:03:22,208 --> 01:03:27,208
a monitor, so we replayed it
100 times right away
1403
01:03:27,291 --> 01:03:28,333
to watch it again.
1404
01:03:28,417 --> 01:03:29,375
And maybe by the 100th time,
I saw the punch.
1405
01:03:29,458 --> 01:03:31,917
I don't know.
1406
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,542
[Collins] He did clip him
with a right hand.
1407
01:03:33,625 --> 01:03:36,709
How hard it is,
only Sonny Liston knew.
1408
01:03:36,792 --> 01:03:39,667
I think the punch that
Muhammad Ali hit Sonny Liston
1409
01:03:39,750 --> 01:03:40,959
with in the second fight,
I think it was enough
1410
01:03:41,041 --> 01:03:42,375
to knock him down,
especially if he didn't
1411
01:03:42,458 --> 01:03:44,458
see the punch.
1412
01:03:45,625 --> 01:03:48,166
[Rahmen Muhammad] I told
Muhammad Ali to punch,
1413
01:03:48,250 --> 01:03:49,959
then he knocked
Sonny Liston out.
1414
01:03:50,041 --> 01:03:53,542
It was them kind of punches
you use in karate.
1415
01:03:53,625 --> 01:03:55,583
You know, when you're punching
in karate,
1416
01:03:55,667 --> 01:03:56,625
you turn it when you hit.
1417
01:03:56,709 --> 01:03:59,750
You know, it's a twist.
1418
01:03:59,834 --> 01:04:01,083
Yow!
1419
01:04:01,166 --> 01:04:01,959
Popped him right
on the jawbone.
1420
01:04:02,041 --> 01:04:05,083
And the punch was so fast
and so quick.
1421
01:04:05,166 --> 01:04:08,083
I didn't know the punch
was gonna knock him out.
1422
01:04:08,166 --> 01:04:09,083
But it did.
1423
01:04:09,166 --> 01:04:11,458
♪♪♪
1424
01:04:11,542 --> 01:04:14,625
[Lipsyte] Now it turns into
theatre.
1425
01:04:14,709 --> 01:04:18,041
Ali, he's challenging Liston,
"Get up, chump!
1426
01:04:18,125 --> 01:04:19,250
Get up and fight!"
1427
01:04:19,333 --> 01:04:21,208
♪♪♪
1428
01:04:21,291 --> 01:04:23,000
[Majeski] Liston rolls over.
1429
01:04:23,083 --> 01:04:25,875
Attempts to get up
and rolls over again.
1430
01:04:25,959 --> 01:04:26,583
♪♪♪
1431
01:04:26,667 --> 01:04:29,166
Ali is shouting and screaming.
1432
01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:31,250
Jersey Joe Walcott loses
complete control of the fight.
1433
01:04:31,333 --> 01:04:34,959
Finally Liston does get up.
They start exchanging blows.
1434
01:04:35,041 --> 01:04:37,542
[Izenberg] Suddenly
Nat Fleischer--
1435
01:04:37,625 --> 01:04:39,041
the editor of The Ring
magazine--
1436
01:04:39,125 --> 01:04:43,750
stands on a chair and goes--
1437
01:04:43,834 --> 01:04:45,500
Fleisher yells over
to Jersey Joe Walker,
1438
01:04:45,583 --> 01:04:46,709
"Stop the fight.
It's over.
1439
01:04:46,792 --> 01:04:48,542
The count--He's counted out."
1440
01:04:50,417 --> 01:04:54,458
Walcott stops the fight.
Utter absolute confusion.
1441
01:04:56,834 --> 01:04:59,125
[Izenberg] A full-throated
roar begins.
1442
01:04:59,208 --> 01:05:02,125
Fix, fix, fix, fix.
1443
01:05:02,208 --> 01:05:05,375
And I heard that for an hour,
probably, while I was writing.
1444
01:05:05,458 --> 01:05:08,625
And still the heavyweight
1445
01:05:08,709 --> 01:05:09,500
champion of the world,
1446
01:05:09,583 --> 01:05:11,959
Muhammad Ali.
1447
01:05:12,041 --> 01:05:14,291
[announcer] One of the most
controversial
1448
01:05:14,375 --> 01:05:15,458
of all title fights.
1449
01:05:15,542 --> 01:05:17,208
[Farrell] There was a real
"fuck you" element here.
1450
01:05:17,291 --> 01:05:22,709
I mean, I think it was a kind
of standard wise guy move.
1451
01:05:22,792 --> 01:05:24,792
♪♪♪
1452
01:05:24,875 --> 01:05:26,500
The fix is the first fight.
1453
01:05:26,583 --> 01:05:28,166
That's the money-making fight.
1454
01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:32,041
The second fight is picking up
the few remaining
1455
01:05:32,125 --> 01:05:34,709
chips off the table
and going home.
1456
01:05:35,625 --> 01:05:37,333
[Assael] Why fix the fight?
1457
01:05:37,417 --> 01:05:39,959
Well, that's where the secret
percentage theory comes in,
1458
01:05:40,041 --> 01:05:43,625
which is that Sonny had agreed
to an under-the-table deal
1459
01:05:43,709 --> 01:05:47,458
to get a cut of Ali's future
earnings if he went down.
1460
01:05:47,542 --> 01:05:49,834
It's exactly what a mobster
would have done
1461
01:05:49,917 --> 01:05:52,000
and it's exactly, I think,
what Sonny did do.
1462
01:05:53,625 --> 01:05:55,166
The other reason that I think
that theory is persuasive
1463
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:58,500
is the role of Ash Resnick.
He was there at the fight.
1464
01:05:58,583 --> 01:06:00,041
Think about it.
That's exactly the kind
1465
01:06:00,125 --> 01:06:02,375
of deal Ash was an expert
at making.
1466
01:06:02,458 --> 01:06:05,291
♪♪♪
1467
01:06:05,375 --> 01:06:06,500
[Kilroy] It's not true.
1468
01:06:06,583 --> 01:06:08,041
♪♪♪
1469
01:06:08,125 --> 01:06:10,500
All the stuff about
Sonny Liston having a part
1470
01:06:10,583 --> 01:06:12,667
of Ali's purse,
that never happened.
1471
01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:14,250
Who would make
an agreement like that?
1472
01:06:14,333 --> 01:06:15,750
Who would make an agreement
like that?
1473
01:06:15,834 --> 01:06:17,792
That's crazy.
1474
01:06:17,875 --> 01:06:20,000
[Assael] Another rumor was
that the Nation of Islam
1475
01:06:20,083 --> 01:06:21,875
was sending contract crew
killers to shoot Sonny
1476
01:06:21,959 --> 01:06:24,333
unless Sonny took a dive.
1477
01:06:24,417 --> 01:06:25,500
♪♪♪
1478
01:06:25,583 --> 01:06:29,834
My mother says that Geraldine
virtually disappeared
1479
01:06:29,917 --> 01:06:32,667
for a few days before the fight
and she didn't know what was
1480
01:06:32,750 --> 01:06:34,375
wrong or how to get, uh,
in touch with her.
1481
01:06:34,458 --> 01:06:35,750
And then when she did
see her,
1482
01:06:35,834 --> 01:06:38,166
she said she'd literally
gone white.
1483
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:40,792
The black Muslims somehow
got to Sonny.
1484
01:06:41,458 --> 01:06:43,959
[Rahmen Muhammad] Hogwash.
1485
01:06:44,041 --> 01:06:45,875
The whole story is this.
1486
01:06:45,959 --> 01:06:49,083
I got a letter from the
honorable Elijah Muhammad
1487
01:06:49,166 --> 01:06:52,083
and told me, said just don't
get Cassius Clay.
1488
01:06:52,166 --> 01:06:54,542
Try to get Sonny to be
a Muslim too.
1489
01:06:54,625 --> 01:06:59,083
♪♪♪
1490
01:06:59,166 --> 01:07:01,792
So I tried to get to Sonny,
but they wouldn't let me
1491
01:07:01,875 --> 01:07:03,458
get to him.
1492
01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:08,458
♪♪♪
1493
01:07:08,542 --> 01:07:11,417
[Assael] After the second
fight, Sonny's a dead man.
1494
01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:13,250
♪♪♪
1495
01:07:13,333 --> 01:07:15,083
He's not only just reviled,
right?
1496
01:07:15,166 --> 01:07:17,125
I mean, he can't even
get a job.
1497
01:07:17,208 --> 01:07:19,542
Boxing commissions
won't license him.
1498
01:07:19,625 --> 01:07:21,166
So the way Sonny sees this,
you know,
1499
01:07:21,250 --> 01:07:23,375
let Joe Louis
be America's hero.
1500
01:07:23,458 --> 01:07:25,709
Let Ali be a voice
of a generation.
1501
01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:27,291
You know, fuck it.
1502
01:07:27,375 --> 01:07:30,750
♪♪♪
1503
01:07:30,834 --> 01:07:32,667
Sonny moves into this
neighborhood
1504
01:07:32,750 --> 01:07:35,291
called Paradise Palms thanks
to Ash Resnick who gets him
1505
01:07:35,375 --> 01:07:39,792
a sweet little deal on a
bungalow on a winding street.
1506
01:07:39,875 --> 01:07:41,834
♪♪♪
1507
01:07:41,917 --> 01:07:42,792
[Gentry] That was a very
exclusive
1508
01:07:42,875 --> 01:07:44,750
neighborhood at the time,
1509
01:07:44,834 --> 01:07:47,583
and people were just so up
in arms not only that my father
1510
01:07:47,667 --> 01:07:50,583
would arrange to have the home
sold to a black person
1511
01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:52,458
but to Sonny Liston,
of all people.
1512
01:07:52,542 --> 01:07:55,959
♪♪♪
1513
01:07:56,041 --> 01:07:57,291
[Assael] He suddenly right
there on the fairway
1514
01:07:57,375 --> 01:08:00,750
of the Stardust country club,
he's able to go running
1515
01:08:00,834 --> 01:08:02,291
in the mornings,
waving at his famous neighbors.
1516
01:08:03,375 --> 01:08:06,291
Going to a little golf club
in the afternoon
1517
01:08:06,375 --> 01:08:08,583
where he might run into
Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin
1518
01:08:08,667 --> 01:08:10,667
or Sammy, you know,
drinking cocktails.
1519
01:08:10,750 --> 01:08:12,333
♪♪♪
1520
01:08:12,417 --> 01:08:13,959
On the face of it,
Vegas was great.
1521
01:08:14,041 --> 01:08:15,750
The problem was that,
you know,
1522
01:08:15,834 --> 01:08:18,834
Sonny didn't have any nest egg.
He was cut up.
1523
01:08:18,917 --> 01:08:23,000
He probably didn't even know
how much of himself he owned.
1524
01:08:23,083 --> 01:08:24,000
[Roberts] Sonny's money has
been going
1525
01:08:24,083 --> 01:08:25,959
a lot of different places.
1526
01:08:26,041 --> 01:08:29,500
And it's not going to him.
He's not a wealthy man.
1527
01:08:29,583 --> 01:08:32,000
All he knows is fighting,
so you keep fighting.
1528
01:08:32,083 --> 01:08:33,875
That's what fighters do.
1529
01:08:33,959 --> 01:08:37,709
Fighters keep fighting until
they can't fight anymore.
1530
01:08:37,792 --> 01:08:40,208
Until they get defeated
too many times
1531
01:08:40,291 --> 01:08:41,500
or they die.
1532
01:08:41,583 --> 01:08:46,667
♪♪♪
1533
01:08:46,750 --> 01:08:48,667
[announcer] How about
Mrs. Liston?
1534
01:08:48,750 --> 01:08:50,041
What does she think about
all this fighting
1535
01:08:50,125 --> 01:08:51,959
and your activities?
1536
01:08:52,041 --> 01:08:54,375
Well, she think that I should
have got another--
1537
01:08:54,458 --> 01:08:55,875
picked out another sport.
1538
01:08:55,959 --> 01:08:57,417
What other sport?
1539
01:08:57,500 --> 01:08:59,583
Anything
except for fighting.
1540
01:08:59,667 --> 01:09:02,208
♪♪♪
1541
01:09:02,291 --> 01:09:04,542
[Roberts] The so-called
comeback
1542
01:09:04,625 --> 01:09:06,333
was really a sad
downward arc.
1543
01:09:06,417 --> 01:09:10,041
He was--he was on the skids.
It was over.
1544
01:09:10,125 --> 01:09:13,083
He was--it became clearer
and clearer he was not
1545
01:09:13,166 --> 01:09:15,166
going to make it back.
1546
01:09:15,250 --> 01:09:16,917
♪♪♪
1547
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,583
[announcer] Yeah,
right by Martin! Oh!
1548
01:09:20,667 --> 01:09:23,583
Liston was not the fighter
he had once been.
1549
01:09:23,667 --> 01:09:25,667
I think there's no question
about that.
1550
01:09:25,750 --> 01:09:27,834
♪♪♪
1551
01:09:27,917 --> 01:09:30,000
[Kilroy] It was over then.
1552
01:09:30,083 --> 01:09:32,000
Sonny became
the perfect opponent,
1553
01:09:32,083 --> 01:09:34,250
fighting here, fighting there,
picking up the payday.
1554
01:09:34,333 --> 01:09:38,208
♪♪♪
1555
01:09:38,291 --> 01:09:40,291
[Collins] Sonny had one last
fight.
1556
01:09:40,375 --> 01:09:43,792
He fought a guy called
the Bayonne Bleeder.
1557
01:09:43,875 --> 01:09:45,041
Chuck Wepner.
1558
01:09:45,125 --> 01:09:47,625
♪♪♪
1559
01:09:47,709 --> 01:09:49,166
[Farrell] Sonny's last fight
against Chuck Wepner
1560
01:09:49,250 --> 01:09:51,166
is very, very interesting.
1561
01:09:51,250 --> 01:09:53,083
He factors into the story
I think in a major way.
1562
01:09:53,166 --> 01:09:55,417
♪♪♪
1563
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,250
Liston was not brought into
that fight to win.
1564
01:09:58,333 --> 01:10:00,083
♪♪♪
1565
01:10:00,166 --> 01:10:03,959
I believe the Wepner fight
was a deal that went
1566
01:10:04,041 --> 01:10:05,583
terribly, terribly wrong.
1567
01:10:05,667 --> 01:10:07,250
♪♪♪
1568
01:10:07,333 --> 01:10:09,250
In the first round,
Sonny Liston comes out
1569
01:10:09,333 --> 01:10:12,125
and throws a left hook, and
Chuck Wepner's eye breaks open
1570
01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:14,458
above his right eyebrow,
and there's a cut,
1571
01:10:14,542 --> 01:10:15,667
and it starts bleeding.
1572
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:18,208
And every time he hit Wepner,
Wepner would open up
1573
01:10:18,291 --> 01:10:20,125
another cut.
1574
01:10:20,208 --> 01:10:20,875
It was a gory, bloody mess.
1575
01:10:20,959 --> 01:10:22,959
♪♪♪
1576
01:10:23,041 --> 01:10:24,959
As the rounds went by,
1577
01:10:25,041 --> 01:10:27,417
Liston couldn't find
a place to fall.
1578
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:30,375
Wepner is increasingly
beat up,
1579
01:10:30,458 --> 01:10:31,959
and eventually the fight
1580
01:10:32,041 --> 01:10:33,333
gets stopped
because of the cuts.
1581
01:10:34,875 --> 01:10:36,959
Liston won the fight.
1582
01:10:37,041 --> 01:10:39,417
So it's a series of
miscommunications
1583
01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:42,208
where nobody does exactly
what they're supposed to do.
1584
01:10:42,291 --> 01:10:43,792
[glass shatters]
1585
01:10:43,875 --> 01:10:46,125
The mob lost a lot of money,
1586
01:10:46,208 --> 01:10:49,291
and there were
dire consequences.
1587
01:10:49,375 --> 01:10:53,500
♪♪♪
1588
01:11:05,583 --> 01:11:08,959
[Majeski] Soon after that, he's
pretty much down to his own.
1589
01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:13,959
Where does Sonny Liston go?
What does Sonny Liston do?
1590
01:11:14,041 --> 01:11:16,417
He went back to where he was
at the beginning of the career.
1591
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:18,166
To the St. Louis streets.
1592
01:11:18,250 --> 01:11:19,291
He went back to the west side
of Las Vegas.
1593
01:11:19,375 --> 01:11:21,667
Same element,
different location.
1594
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:24,667
♪♪♪
1595
01:11:24,750 --> 01:11:26,208
He was always involved
in a criminal culture,
1596
01:11:26,291 --> 01:11:28,166
whether by choice
or necessity.
1597
01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:31,583
Sonny went to what
he knew best.
1598
01:11:31,667 --> 01:11:34,333
♪♪♪
1599
01:11:34,417 --> 01:11:35,667
[Jeffries] The west side of
Vegas
1600
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:37,375
was not very different at all
1601
01:11:37,458 --> 01:11:40,875
from other black communities
across America.
1602
01:11:40,959 --> 01:11:43,583
Uh, high concentration
of poverty,
1603
01:11:43,667 --> 01:11:46,375
uh, low job opportunities,
and rife with crime,
1604
01:11:46,458 --> 01:11:51,083
uh, in part because they became
areas where crime,
1605
01:11:51,166 --> 01:11:51,917
uh, became tolerated.
1606
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,583
♪♪♪
1607
01:11:54,667 --> 01:12:00,166
Sonny Liston had a beautiful
home on the golf course--
1608
01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:01,875
Las Vegas golf course.
1609
01:12:01,959 --> 01:12:04,417
But he also was there on
the west side quite a bit.
1610
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:07,875
♪♪♪
1611
01:12:07,959 --> 01:12:11,041
Sonny came to the west side
to let his hair down,
1612
01:12:11,125 --> 01:12:13,166
to be with his people.
1613
01:12:13,250 --> 01:12:16,208
The fact he did something
with nothing
1614
01:12:16,291 --> 01:12:17,542
is what they respected him
for.
1615
01:12:17,625 --> 01:12:20,709
Whereas on the strip,
they just look at him
1616
01:12:20,792 --> 01:12:22,625
as a loser to Ali.
1617
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:25,667
♪♪♪
1618
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:28,291
Every morning he would go
to Friendly Liquor Store
1619
01:12:28,375 --> 01:12:31,750
and buy two bottles of wine
before he--
1620
01:12:31,834 --> 01:12:32,625
to start his day out.
1621
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:36,250
And we'd had 16 murders
in one year
1622
01:12:36,333 --> 01:12:37,875
in that one bar alone.
1623
01:12:37,959 --> 01:12:40,417
Uh, when the police got a call
at Friendly's,
1624
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,959
they answered those calls
in force with shotguns.
1625
01:12:44,041 --> 01:12:44,917
It was a dangerous place.
1626
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,583
♪♪♪
1627
01:12:48,667 --> 01:12:51,750
The people that he was hanging
out with were killers.
1628
01:12:51,834 --> 01:12:53,917
They would kill you
in a heartbeat.
1629
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,333
Of course now, he wore a .38
on his ankle,
1630
01:12:55,417 --> 01:12:59,917
so he was pretty well in
with the crew.
1631
01:13:00,041 --> 01:13:01,875
One of the more colorful
figures that Sonny was hanging
1632
01:13:01,959 --> 01:13:05,709
out with was a jazz musician
named Red Rodney--
1633
01:13:05,792 --> 01:13:06,792
Robert Chudnick.
1634
01:13:06,875 --> 01:13:08,291
Somebody who was there
at the founding of bebop.
1635
01:13:08,375 --> 01:13:11,458
Played with Charlie Parker.
1636
01:13:11,542 --> 01:13:13,792
He was a jazz musician by day,
a heroin dealer
1637
01:13:13,875 --> 01:13:14,792
and head of a criminal gang
by night.
1638
01:13:14,875 --> 01:13:18,208
♪♪♪
1639
01:13:18,291 --> 01:13:19,375
Sonny was no stranger
to hanging around
1640
01:13:19,458 --> 01:13:21,250
with two-bit gangsters.
1641
01:13:21,333 --> 01:13:24,041
The problem is that he was
the king of the west side,
1642
01:13:24,125 --> 01:13:25,583
but he was also the king
of the things that were done
1643
01:13:25,667 --> 01:13:27,625
on the west side.
1644
01:13:27,709 --> 01:13:29,375
And that began to pull him into
the darkness that he wouldn't
1645
01:13:29,458 --> 01:13:31,125
get out of.
1646
01:13:31,208 --> 01:13:33,750
It turned out my dad
and Sonny were doing some kind
1647
01:13:33,834 --> 01:13:35,291
of dealing together--heroin.
1648
01:13:35,375 --> 01:13:37,583
♪♪♪
1649
01:13:37,667 --> 01:13:39,625
My dad saw that Sonny
kind of liked me.
1650
01:13:39,709 --> 01:13:43,166
We had a little rapport
together and so I went with him
1651
01:13:43,250 --> 01:13:45,291
a few times to pick up
some money on collections.
1652
01:13:45,375 --> 01:13:47,917
He let me go with them.
1653
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,500
He knew that guys his age
made fun of him behind his back
1654
01:13:51,583 --> 01:13:53,458
'cause he was dumb, you know,
and he didn't read or write,
1655
01:13:53,542 --> 01:13:54,333
this and that.
1656
01:13:54,417 --> 01:13:55,333
♪♪♪
1657
01:13:55,417 --> 01:13:57,792
But kids weren't like that.
1658
01:13:57,875 --> 01:13:59,291
They considered me a kid,
you know.
1659
01:13:59,375 --> 01:14:02,917
♪♪♪
1660
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,792
I never felt afraid of him.
1661
01:14:04,875 --> 01:14:06,750
Then.
1662
01:14:08,250 --> 01:14:11,500
♪♪♪
1663
01:14:11,583 --> 01:14:14,250
[Assael] The thing about Sonny
dealing drugs on the west side
1664
01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:16,166
is it couldn't have happened
at a worse time.
1665
01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:20,500
America's public enemy
number one in the United States
1666
01:14:20,583 --> 01:14:23,208
is drug abuse.
1667
01:14:23,291 --> 01:14:25,500
In order to fight and defeat
this enemy,
1668
01:14:25,583 --> 01:14:30,166
it is necessary to wage a new
all-out offensive.
1669
01:14:30,250 --> 01:14:31,750
[Assael] Nixon's policy
in Vietnam
1670
01:14:31,834 --> 01:14:32,709
had caused his poll numbers
to sink
1671
01:14:32,792 --> 01:14:35,709
and he needed something
to rescue him.
1672
01:14:35,792 --> 01:14:38,000
So he launched an all-out
offensive on drugs,
1673
01:14:38,083 --> 01:14:41,333
which meant the number
of drug cops in Vegas
1674
01:14:41,417 --> 01:14:42,500
was starting to climb.
1675
01:14:42,583 --> 01:14:44,500
♪♪♪
1676
01:14:44,583 --> 01:14:46,917
[Gandy] All of the narcotics
divisions were beefing up.
1677
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,583
We were getting influxed with
money for the war on drugs.
1678
01:14:50,667 --> 01:14:53,709
And everybody was just
so well-known.
1679
01:14:53,792 --> 01:14:56,000
It was just a matter of time
before they brought him down.
1680
01:14:56,083 --> 01:14:59,542
♪♪♪
1681
01:14:59,625 --> 01:15:03,250
In February, 1969,
myself and two other agents
1682
01:15:03,333 --> 01:15:04,917
from the L.A. office
of the Bureau of Narcotics
1683
01:15:05,041 --> 01:15:07,000
and Dangerous Drugs
had an arrest warrant
1684
01:15:07,083 --> 01:15:10,208
for one of the bigger
traffickers
1685
01:15:10,291 --> 01:15:13,041
in the west side of Las Vegas--
Earl Cage.
1686
01:15:13,125 --> 01:15:15,208
♪♪♪
1687
01:15:15,291 --> 01:15:17,250
[Gandy] Earl Cage
was very, very dangerous.
1688
01:15:17,333 --> 01:15:19,250
In fact, we think that he
killed one of our informants,
1689
01:15:19,333 --> 01:15:20,417
but we couldn't prove it.
1690
01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:22,166
He was a very dangerous man.
1691
01:15:22,250 --> 01:15:24,917
♪♪♪
1692
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,083
[Alden] We went over to his
residence to arrest him.
1693
01:15:28,166 --> 01:15:29,959
We made forced entry.
1694
01:15:30,041 --> 01:15:32,500
The first person I saw was the
former heavyweight champion
1695
01:15:32,583 --> 01:15:34,709
of the world, Sonny Liston.
1696
01:15:34,792 --> 01:15:37,458
On the other side of the bed
was the defendant, Earl Cage.
1697
01:15:37,542 --> 01:15:39,542
And I'm thinking, "Now what?
1698
01:15:39,625 --> 01:15:41,041
We got a serious problem here."
1699
01:15:41,875 --> 01:15:46,458
And then two detectives
came in, and they said,
1700
01:15:46,542 --> 01:15:48,458
"Sonny, you come with us.
1701
01:15:48,542 --> 01:15:50,125
We're gonna take care of this.
1702
01:15:50,208 --> 01:15:50,959
You come with us."
1703
01:15:51,041 --> 01:15:53,125
♪♪♪
1704
01:15:53,208 --> 01:15:55,625
Sonny was released
that evening.
1705
01:15:55,709 --> 01:15:57,917
He was the only person
that wasn't charged
1706
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,458
and subsequently convicted.
1707
01:15:59,542 --> 01:16:01,792
♪♪♪
1708
01:16:01,875 --> 01:16:05,834
If I were Earl Cage,
I would definitely think that
1709
01:16:05,917 --> 01:16:06,959
Sonny was the one
that did me in.
1710
01:16:07,041 --> 01:16:09,458
♪♪♪
1711
01:16:09,542 --> 01:16:11,375
[Gandy] But Earl was slick.
1712
01:16:11,458 --> 01:16:14,291
He would wait until the time
was just right to get you
1713
01:16:14,375 --> 01:16:16,166
so there was no suspicion.
1714
01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:21,458
♪♪♪
1715
01:16:29,166 --> 01:16:30,667
[Assael] But what was more
dangerous for Sonny
1716
01:16:30,750 --> 01:16:32,500
than crossing somebody
like Earl Cage
1717
01:16:32,583 --> 01:16:36,417
was talking about
the cut he had
1718
01:16:36,500 --> 01:16:38,333
of Ali's future earnings--
the secret percentage theory.
1719
01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:40,667
And the reason is that
1720
01:16:40,750 --> 01:16:42,583
Ali-Frazier was
about to happen--
1721
01:16:42,667 --> 01:16:44,166
The biggest fight purse
in boxing history,
1722
01:16:44,250 --> 01:16:45,917
$5 million.
1723
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:46,917
And Sonny was walking around
the west side
1724
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,333
telling people that he had
a cut of it.
1725
01:16:49,417 --> 01:16:51,625
♪♪♪
1726
01:16:51,709 --> 01:16:54,291
[Geran] We first started
hearing
1727
01:16:54,375 --> 01:16:56,041
about Sonny Liston owning
a percentage
1728
01:16:56,125 --> 01:17:00,208
of Muhammad Ali's contract
from the barbershop.
1729
01:17:00,291 --> 01:17:04,500
He was getting a shoe shine,
and the shoe shine man
1730
01:17:04,583 --> 01:17:07,709
was taunting him about
his loss to Ali.
1731
01:17:09,917 --> 01:17:12,709
Sonny just started boasting
about,
1732
01:17:12,792 --> 01:17:14,542
"Ali works for me.
1733
01:17:14,625 --> 01:17:17,792
I own a percentage of him.
You know?
1734
01:17:17,875 --> 01:17:19,875
I'm the one who really won."
1735
01:17:20,625 --> 01:17:22,208
[Assael] There were a lot
of people
1736
01:17:22,291 --> 01:17:23,917
who didn't want the curtain
lifted
1737
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,125
on what happened
in his second fight with Ali.
1738
01:17:25,208 --> 01:17:28,208
There were a lot of people
who had an invested interest
1739
01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:29,750
in shutting Sonny up.
1740
01:17:31,125 --> 01:17:34,667
Around that time, people saw
Sonny and Ash fighting.
1741
01:17:34,750 --> 01:17:36,625
Ash had to be careful.
1742
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:39,875
There are FBI memos that call
Ash the linchpin between
1743
01:17:39,959 --> 01:17:43,709
corruption and boxing--
the mob and boxing.
1744
01:17:43,792 --> 01:17:46,166
I mean, the feds were actively
going after Ash.
1745
01:17:46,250 --> 01:17:48,583
♪♪♪
1746
01:17:48,667 --> 01:17:52,083
[Gentry] My father was always
concerned about
1747
01:17:52,166 --> 01:17:53,208
his associations.
1748
01:17:53,291 --> 01:17:56,083
And I'm sure my father
didn't want to be around him
1749
01:17:56,166 --> 01:17:57,083
at the time.
1750
01:17:57,166 --> 01:17:59,333
♪♪♪
1751
01:17:59,417 --> 01:18:01,333
[Assael] Ash didn't want
anything to do with Sonny,
1752
01:18:01,417 --> 01:18:02,750
but remember, a lot of people
didn't want to have anything
1753
01:18:02,834 --> 01:18:04,750
to do with Sonny
at that point.
1754
01:18:04,834 --> 01:18:06,709
Increasingly even including
Geraldine who was scared about
1755
01:18:06,792 --> 01:18:09,917
how far off the edge
he was going.
1756
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,000
He was getting into cocaine
more and more.
1757
01:18:11,083 --> 01:18:14,125
He was getting into everything
more and more.
1758
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:17,208
And he didn't have anything
to anchor him anymore.
1759
01:18:17,291 --> 01:18:20,917
♪♪♪
1760
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,709
It was about late 1970,
and my dad and Sonny had
1761
01:18:24,792 --> 01:18:26,417
a falling out somehow.
1762
01:18:26,500 --> 01:18:28,000
He said, "Look, I don't want
Sonny coming around
1763
01:18:28,083 --> 01:18:29,250
and we're not
seeing him anymore.
1764
01:18:29,333 --> 01:18:30,834
Don't go over there."
1765
01:18:30,917 --> 01:18:33,417
And so he had
to go out of town,
1766
01:18:33,500 --> 01:18:37,417
and then Sonny came over
the next night.
1767
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:39,542
He just went right by me,
pushed me out of the way,
1768
01:18:39,625 --> 01:18:41,709
went into my dad's room,
and I could hear a lot
1769
01:18:41,792 --> 01:18:44,208
of things banging around
in there.
1770
01:18:44,291 --> 01:18:45,792
He was opening drawers,
looking through stuff.
1771
01:18:45,875 --> 01:18:47,625
Uh, I don't know
if he found anything,
1772
01:18:47,709 --> 01:18:48,959
but after a while he just left.
1773
01:18:50,875 --> 01:18:52,291
My dad came back
a couple of days later
1774
01:18:52,375 --> 01:18:55,667
and I told him what happened,
and he was really pissed, man.
1775
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:57,458
He said, "Mark,
I have to tell you.
1776
01:18:57,542 --> 01:18:59,041
I have to stress this.
1777
01:18:59,125 --> 01:19:00,000
Do not go over
to Sonny's house anymore.
1778
01:19:00,083 --> 01:19:02,667
His days are numbered.
I'm telling you."
1779
01:19:02,750 --> 01:19:04,125
That's the way he said it.
1780
01:19:04,208 --> 01:19:09,291
♪♪♪
1781
01:19:17,250 --> 01:19:19,125
[Izenberg] I'm in Vegas
for another fight.
1782
01:19:19,208 --> 01:19:21,625
And I walk up to the Stardust
1783
01:19:21,709 --> 01:19:24,333
and I see Sonny putting a tip
1784
01:19:24,417 --> 01:19:27,208
down on the table
and all these dirty dishes.
1785
01:19:27,291 --> 01:19:29,166
So I go in and Sonny says,
"Hey, how you been?
1786
01:19:29,250 --> 01:19:30,250
How you doing?"
1787
01:19:30,333 --> 01:19:31,125
I said, "Fine, how are you?"
1788
01:19:31,208 --> 01:19:33,000
"Good," He said.
"Did you eat yet?"
1789
01:19:33,083 --> 01:19:35,333
And I said, "No."
1790
01:19:35,417 --> 01:19:36,792
And he said, "I didn't eat,
either.
1791
01:19:36,875 --> 01:19:38,959
Let's have breakfast."
1792
01:19:39,041 --> 01:19:42,750
That showed me how lonely
at that point of his life
1793
01:19:42,834 --> 01:19:44,792
Sonny Liston was.
1794
01:19:46,417 --> 01:19:49,583
And actually, probably was
the last time we ever spoke.
1795
01:19:49,667 --> 01:19:53,500
♪♪♪
1796
01:19:53,583 --> 01:19:56,041
[Assael] December, 1970.
1797
01:19:56,125 --> 01:19:58,583
Sonny's getting even more
out of control.
1798
01:19:58,667 --> 01:20:01,333
♪♪♪
1799
01:20:01,417 --> 01:20:04,083
Geraldine goes to visit her
family in St. Louis.
1800
01:20:04,166 --> 01:20:07,709
It's the last time
she sees him alive.
1801
01:20:07,792 --> 01:20:11,792
♪♪♪
1802
01:20:11,875 --> 01:20:14,875
Geraldine comes home
from vacation.
1803
01:20:14,959 --> 01:20:17,375
♪♪♪
1804
01:20:17,458 --> 01:20:19,750
Smells something.
Doesn't know what it is.
1805
01:20:21,959 --> 01:20:24,041
Goes from one room to another.
Follows the smell
1806
01:20:24,125 --> 01:20:24,500
up to their bedroom...
1807
01:20:24,583 --> 01:20:28,667
♪♪♪
1808
01:20:28,750 --> 01:20:31,583
...where she finds her husband
slumped backwards
1809
01:20:31,667 --> 01:20:34,000
and in advanced state
of decomposition.
1810
01:20:34,083 --> 01:20:39,000
♪♪♪
1811
01:20:39,083 --> 01:20:39,875
She races out of the house
1812
01:20:39,959 --> 01:20:43,709
and to the nearby home
of a friend.
1813
01:20:44,834 --> 01:20:47,500
They come back to the house
at around nine.
1814
01:20:47,583 --> 01:20:52,959
♪♪♪
1815
01:20:53,041 --> 01:20:54,750
It's not until midnight
they make
1816
01:20:54,834 --> 01:20:56,709
the first call
to the police.
1817
01:20:56,792 --> 01:21:01,917
♪♪♪
1818
01:21:05,417 --> 01:21:06,750
[Gandy] There was sheriff's
deputies
1819
01:21:06,834 --> 01:21:08,083
running over the place
like ants.
1820
01:21:08,166 --> 01:21:11,083
They were everywhere.
1821
01:21:11,166 --> 01:21:13,750
It was gruesome.
1822
01:21:13,834 --> 01:21:16,083
He had obviously been dead
for four or five days,
1823
01:21:16,166 --> 01:21:18,917
'cause he was literally full
of methane gas.
1824
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,291
It was real bad.
1825
01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:22,000
♪♪♪
1826
01:21:22,083 --> 01:21:24,291
I don't really know how
to explain it.
1827
01:21:24,375 --> 01:21:27,250
Uh, here one of your childhood
heroes
1828
01:21:27,333 --> 01:21:30,333
laying there bloated, you know.
1829
01:21:30,417 --> 01:21:33,458
And I just thought it was
a terrible disrespectful way
1830
01:21:33,542 --> 01:21:36,625
for him to go
and not be found, that's all.
1831
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:39,917
I just, uh--
It was startling.
1832
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,792
♪♪♪
1833
01:21:40,875 --> 01:21:43,291
Mmm.
1834
01:21:43,375 --> 01:21:46,083
How he died.
1835
01:21:46,166 --> 01:21:47,625
He died alone.
I just kept thinking he was
1836
01:21:47,709 --> 01:21:49,667
by himself, you know?
1837
01:21:49,750 --> 01:21:51,250
And what happened to him?
1838
01:21:51,333 --> 01:21:52,834
I just always wonder
what happened.
1839
01:21:52,917 --> 01:21:56,458
Sonny Liston, the fighter
that Muhammad Ali
1840
01:21:56,542 --> 01:21:59,333
used to call the big ugly bear
was found dead today
1841
01:21:59,417 --> 01:22:00,583
in his home in Las Vegas,
Nevada.
1842
01:22:00,667 --> 01:22:02,792
He had been dead about a week
before his wife returning
1843
01:22:02,875 --> 01:22:05,166
from a trip found the body.
1844
01:22:05,250 --> 01:22:07,625
Investigators say there was no
sign of foul play,
1845
01:22:07,709 --> 01:22:09,500
but they found some substances
they think may be drugs.
1846
01:22:09,583 --> 01:22:12,375
♪♪♪
1847
01:22:12,458 --> 01:22:16,625
[Collins] Geraldine not calling
the police until three hours
1848
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:20,500
after finding Sonny's body
is strange.
1849
01:22:20,583 --> 01:22:22,250
There are a lot of theories.
1850
01:22:22,333 --> 01:22:25,250
Um, one was that there was
quite a stash of heroin
1851
01:22:25,333 --> 01:22:28,291
at Sonny's house and they
needed to get it out of there.
1852
01:22:29,375 --> 01:22:30,166
[Gandy] But the police had
found
1853
01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:34,542
a balloon of heroin
downstairs.
1854
01:22:35,917 --> 01:22:38,875
It seemed strange that she
wouldn't have disposed of it
1855
01:22:38,959 --> 01:22:41,375
to save Sonny's reputation,
if nothing else.
1856
01:22:41,458 --> 01:22:45,291
I don't know where she went
or who she talked to or what,
1857
01:22:45,375 --> 01:22:47,542
but that seems
very strange to me.
1858
01:22:47,625 --> 01:22:52,625
♪♪♪
1859
01:22:53,291 --> 01:22:56,458
[Roberts] An athlete dies
at a young age.
1860
01:22:56,542 --> 01:22:59,375
Why?
1861
01:22:59,458 --> 01:23:02,375
There's some heroin
found in his system.
1862
01:23:02,458 --> 01:23:04,375
Now the question is,
did Sonny take drugs?
1863
01:23:04,458 --> 01:23:09,709
There are innumerous friends
of Sonny that would have come
1864
01:23:09,792 --> 01:23:11,041
forward and did come forward
and said,
1865
01:23:11,125 --> 01:23:13,792
"He would never have shot
heroin."
1866
01:23:13,875 --> 01:23:17,208
He was petrified of needles.
1867
01:23:17,291 --> 01:23:20,208
♪ dramatic music ♪
1868
01:23:20,291 --> 01:23:22,750
♪♪♪
1869
01:23:22,834 --> 01:23:24,083
Well, if there's heroin
in his system,
1870
01:23:24,166 --> 01:23:27,417
did somebody else shoot him
full of heroin?
1871
01:23:27,500 --> 01:23:31,750
♪♪♪
1872
01:23:32,291 --> 01:23:35,667
Now we get in, well,
if somebody else did,
1873
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:36,875
was it murder?
1874
01:23:36,959 --> 01:23:38,750
♪♪♪
1875
01:23:38,834 --> 01:23:41,291
If it was murder, why did they
murder Sonny Liston?
1876
01:23:42,417 --> 01:23:45,250
[Farrell] Depending on what
your point of view is
1877
01:23:45,333 --> 01:23:48,417
and what your agenda is,
that will determine
1878
01:23:48,500 --> 01:23:50,250
how you feel he was killed.
1879
01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:54,375
♪♪♪
1880
01:23:54,458 --> 01:23:57,250
I've been told that Liston
was killed because
1881
01:23:57,333 --> 01:24:00,083
of the Wepner fight.
1882
01:24:00,166 --> 01:24:03,166
The mob lost a lot of money,
and I know that it's something
1883
01:24:03,250 --> 01:24:06,208
that everybody involved
would have done.
1884
01:24:06,291 --> 01:24:08,583
Another person who wanted
to see him dead was Red Rodney,
1885
01:24:08,667 --> 01:24:09,667
who was a cautious criminal.
1886
01:24:09,750 --> 01:24:11,959
The last thing he wanted
to see was Sonny Liston
1887
01:24:12,041 --> 01:24:13,959
shooting his mouth off
about the drug gang
1888
01:24:14,041 --> 01:24:14,792
that he was running.
1889
01:24:14,875 --> 01:24:16,667
♪♪♪
1890
01:24:16,750 --> 01:24:18,792
[Rodney] I remembered that
my dad and Sonny had
1891
01:24:18,875 --> 01:24:20,959
a falling out somehow.
1892
01:24:21,041 --> 01:24:22,709
My dad was real pissed.
1893
01:24:22,792 --> 01:24:23,959
So, you know, I asked him,
I said,
1894
01:24:24,041 --> 01:24:25,250
"Did you have anything
to do with that?
1895
01:24:25,333 --> 01:24:26,625
Or do you know about that?"
1896
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:27,500
And he goes, "No."
That's that.
1897
01:24:27,583 --> 01:24:29,709
But he left town a couple
of days later
1898
01:24:29,792 --> 01:24:31,959
because he knew the cops
would be coming around.
1899
01:24:32,041 --> 01:24:34,041
But I don't think he had
anything to do with that.
1900
01:24:34,125 --> 01:24:35,083
I really don't.
1901
01:24:35,166 --> 01:24:36,542
♪♪♪
1902
01:24:36,625 --> 01:24:42,291
[Assael] There is a theory--
a extremely persuasive one.
1903
01:24:42,375 --> 01:24:45,166
A former police informant
walks into the Vegas Metro
1904
01:24:45,250 --> 01:24:48,125
Police Department with a story
about a hero cop
1905
01:24:48,208 --> 01:24:50,917
who broke bad.
1906
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,000
The very first thing
he said was,
1907
01:24:52,083 --> 01:24:55,333
"That cop killed Sonny Liston."
1908
01:24:55,417 --> 01:24:58,166
♪♪♪
1909
01:24:58,250 --> 01:25:02,458
This informant said Ash
Resnick wanted Sonny dead.
1910
01:25:02,542 --> 01:25:05,166
Ash hired the cop
to kill Sonny Liston.
1911
01:25:05,250 --> 01:25:08,500
The more he talks,
the more detail he gives.
1912
01:25:08,583 --> 01:25:10,792
♪♪♪
1913
01:25:10,875 --> 01:25:12,750
The investigators didn't want
to believe him
1914
01:25:12,834 --> 01:25:15,667
because it was the guy that
they all considered a hero cop.
1915
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:18,000
It was Larry Gandy.
1916
01:25:18,083 --> 01:25:20,959
♪♪♪
1917
01:25:21,041 --> 01:25:23,166
Killing people really does
something to you.
1918
01:25:23,250 --> 01:25:24,333
And it scars you for life.
1919
01:25:24,417 --> 01:25:28,000
It made me sick that somebody
would accuse me
1920
01:25:28,083 --> 01:25:30,792
of killing somebody for hire.
1921
01:25:30,875 --> 01:25:33,417
I am not a contract killer.
1922
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:33,875
And never would be.
1923
01:25:33,959 --> 01:25:36,291
♪♪♪
1924
01:25:36,375 --> 01:25:39,917
I sought out Larry Gandy
who was the man who was
1925
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,667
supposedly the hitman
on my father's behalf.
1926
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:45,458
And he said he'd
never met my father.
1927
01:25:45,542 --> 01:25:49,792
I don't believe that my father
was capable of hurting anyone.
1928
01:25:49,875 --> 01:25:53,250
Especially someone he revered
as much as he loved Sonny.
1929
01:25:53,834 --> 01:25:56,792
[Gandy] I think Sonny Liston
was killed because of the raid
1930
01:25:56,875 --> 01:26:00,458
that went bad
on Earl Cage's house.
1931
01:26:00,542 --> 01:26:03,375
He had motive, opportunity,
and means.
1932
01:26:03,458 --> 01:26:04,917
♪♪♪
1933
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,458
Rumor, rumor, rumor,
story, story, story.
1934
01:26:11,458 --> 01:26:13,417
That's the story
of Sonny's life.
1935
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:17,250
♪♪♪
1936
01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:19,917
[Assael] The medical examiner
just figured natural causes
1937
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,542
was the easiest way
to just end it.
1938
01:26:22,625 --> 01:26:24,041
And that's what happened.
1939
01:26:24,125 --> 01:26:25,208
There was no
homicide investigation.
1940
01:26:25,291 --> 01:26:26,875
Sonny's death
was Sonny's death.
1941
01:26:26,959 --> 01:26:28,333
He was given a funeral,
a send-off,
1942
01:26:28,417 --> 01:26:32,917
with a procession
up the Las Vegas strip.
1943
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,750
Dead and buried.
1944
01:26:34,834 --> 01:26:40,000
♪♪♪
1945
01:26:47,834 --> 01:26:49,417
I don't know.
1946
01:26:49,500 --> 01:26:52,792
I really don't know whether
Sonny, um, overdosed
1947
01:26:52,875 --> 01:26:53,875
or was murdered.
1948
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,125
It's much easier to deal
1949
01:26:56,208 --> 01:27:00,458
with the idea that there were,
1950
01:27:00,542 --> 01:27:02,959
you know, powerful forces
1951
01:27:03,041 --> 01:27:06,750
that finally did in
1952
01:27:06,834 --> 01:27:09,208
this powerful man.
1953
01:27:09,291 --> 01:27:11,875
I think that's easier
than just saying,
1954
01:27:11,959 --> 01:27:13,959
"Hey, you know, we're--
we're all complicit
1955
01:27:14,041 --> 01:27:17,458
in the Sonny Liston story."
1956
01:27:17,542 --> 01:27:22,500
♪♪♪
1957
01:27:24,208 --> 01:27:26,417
[Jeffries] I think there's
enough
1958
01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:28,750
culpability to go around.
1959
01:27:28,834 --> 01:27:31,500
♪♪♪
1960
01:27:31,583 --> 01:27:34,917
America is responsible,
not just white America
1961
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,667
but black America as a whole
for really shaping the life
1962
01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:41,875
and determining to a certain
extent the fortune and fate
1963
01:27:41,959 --> 01:27:42,834
of Sonny Liston.
1964
01:27:42,917 --> 01:27:45,667
♪♪♪
1965
01:27:45,750 --> 01:27:47,375
[Izenberg] And the people on
the sidelines can say,
1966
01:27:47,458 --> 01:27:49,667
"Well, he should have changed
after this.
1967
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:50,750
He should have changed."
1968
01:27:50,834 --> 01:27:53,000
Nobody tried to hitch me
up to a mule in Arkansas
1969
01:27:53,083 --> 01:27:54,750
when I was 11 years old.
1970
01:27:54,834 --> 01:27:56,041
Nobody had me hitchhike
all the way to St. Louis
1971
01:27:56,125 --> 01:27:58,208
to meet my sister and mother
1972
01:27:58,291 --> 01:27:59,875
who I hadn't seen
in three years.
1973
01:28:01,375 --> 01:28:04,917
And nobody said, "How else
can I make a living?"
1974
01:28:06,041 --> 01:28:09,000
So this is who he was,
and this is what he was.
1975
01:28:09,083 --> 01:28:10,417
♪♪♪
1976
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:12,375
[Jeffries] I don't think
it's a wonder
1977
01:28:12,458 --> 01:28:14,333
that he died when he did.
1978
01:28:14,417 --> 01:28:16,834
I think it's a wonder
that he didn't die earlier.
1979
01:28:16,917 --> 01:28:19,458
I don't think it's a wonder
that he didn't hold on
1980
01:28:19,542 --> 01:28:23,041
to the championship longer
than he did.
1981
01:28:23,125 --> 01:28:24,291
I think it's a wonder
that he made it
1982
01:28:24,375 --> 01:28:26,834
that far to hold it at all.
1983
01:28:26,917 --> 01:28:29,709
♪♪♪
1984
01:28:29,792 --> 01:28:32,500
[Majeski] Sonny Liston's fate
was sealed in the womb.
1985
01:28:32,583 --> 01:28:35,542
He reached the stars,
and when he grabbed the star,
1986
01:28:35,625 --> 01:28:36,583
it burnt him up.
1987
01:28:36,667 --> 01:28:40,166
There was nothing left
in Liston to give.
1988
01:28:40,250 --> 01:28:42,333
♪♪♪
1989
01:28:42,417 --> 01:28:45,208
[Tyson] Sonny Liston should be
remembered as a great fighter.
1990
01:28:45,291 --> 01:28:47,834
Once he's champ,
he's always champ.
1991
01:28:47,917 --> 01:28:49,750
That's always gonna be
his identity.
1992
01:28:49,834 --> 01:28:51,709
People will always
call him champ.
1993
01:28:51,792 --> 01:28:54,959
♪♪♪
1994
01:28:55,041 --> 01:28:56,709
[Reddish Jr.] Charles Sonny
Liston.
1995
01:28:56,792 --> 01:28:58,667
♪♪♪
1996
01:28:58,750 --> 01:29:00,625
He was a man amongst men.
1997
01:29:00,709 --> 01:29:03,083
♪♪♪
1998
01:29:03,166 --> 01:29:04,583
And that's the story.
1999
01:29:04,667 --> 01:29:06,834
♪♪♪
2000
01:29:06,917 --> 01:29:11,583
I tell the world, "I'm glad he
came through my way one time."
2001
01:29:13,125 --> 01:29:18,250
♪♪♪
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