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Previously
on "Hunting Hitler"...
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- They had a plan for mass
destruction
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in the United States,
using a weapon
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with a kill radius which
would have taken out Manhattan.
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- We need to know everything
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about a Nazi scientist
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called Dr. Richter.
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- He got himself an island.
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- Richter's laboratory
was cutting-edge,
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with machines
that would enable him
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to develop a nuclear weapon.
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- We have Inalco over here,
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Dr. Richter with island Huemul,
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the bunker destroyed in 1955,
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an observation tower.
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Somebody sat back with a map
and said,
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"I'm gonna put an outpost here,
I'm gonna put
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"Adolf Hitler here,
and I'm gonna put
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a nuclear weapon program here."
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What I see here is the
Fourth Reich's blueprint.
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HUNTING HITLER - SEASON 2
EP - 7 - Unmarked Grave
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- Our intelligence leads us
to Huemul Island.
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Here Dr. Richter,
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with the acquiescence
of Juan Peron,
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is developing
nuclear technology.
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Bob Baer and Dr. John Cencich
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review the findings from
Bariloche, Argentina,
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where they have uncovered
Huemul Island,
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a nuclear facility
run by a scientist
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with Nazi ties just 30 miles
from the Inalco house,
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a possible safe haven
for Adolf Hitler,
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as well as several military
installations in the area.
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- Look at the totality of
evidence,
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not any one piece of it.
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So these people
had on their mind,
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uh, creating the Fourth Reich.
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In Bariloche,
you have the Inalco house.
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You've got the watchtower.
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You've got the bunker.
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You have a clandestine
nuclear facility.
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They had the elements
to create the Fourth Reich,
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but something went wrong.
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What happened?
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- We know that
the Argentinean military
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took efforts to destroy the
energy facility
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on Huemul Island and the bunker.
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- In 1955, Juan Peron is ousted,
he's no longer in power,
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this is my theory that the
Argentinean government
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is trying to remove any evidence
of cooperation
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or the appearance of cooperation
with the Nazi regime.
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In September 1955,
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the fascist dictator of
Argentina, Juan Peron,
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who provided refuge to
thousands of
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Nazi war criminals,
was driven from power
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by a military coup
and remained in exile
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for nearly two decades in Spain.
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- If Hitler made it to
Argentina,
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Peron is overthrown in '55,
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Hitler would have been
obligated to get up and move.
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Not only obligated,
there would have been
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preparations in place.
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They went somewhere.
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Where did they go at that point?
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- From Bariloche,
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Chile is right over
the mountain range.
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The Chilean government allowed
thousands of Nazis
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to enter following
the Second World War,
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and they lived with
a lot of autonomy,
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so it's a perfect place for
fleeing Nazis
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to make their way to.
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- Okay, Chile and Nazi...
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- Yeah, this is interesting,
dated 2nd July, 1943.
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It's a memorandum
from J. Edgar Hoover himself,
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pro-Nazi personalities in the
vicinity of Osorno, Chile.
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Each paragraph is highlighted by
different Nazi activities.
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There is a, uh, a network
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of Nazi support
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in the province of Osorno.
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If Bariloche is here,
we have Osorno right here
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in Chile, the distance here
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is a mere 150 miles.
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People are running scared,
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where are they going to go?
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The most logical area is Osorno.
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- Every time we've looked at
these German communities
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and followed these leads,
there has been some sort of
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Nazi clandestine infrastructure,
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and I'm willing to bet
we find something.
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In Osorno, Chile,
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U.S. Army Special Forces,
Tim Kennedy,
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and investigative journalist,
Gerrard Williams,
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are joined by their translator,
America.
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- You can take point, America.
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They arrive at the
home of Ruben Ramirez,
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a historian and lifetime
resident of Osorno...
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- You ready?
- Yeah.
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Who has
spent his career studying
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Nazi activities in the area.
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- Thanks for taking the time
to meet with us.
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We're interested in...
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Nazis that came to this area.
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We have information
that lots came here,
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and we're trying to find
a few very specific ones.
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- They were welcomed
by the government here.
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- The Germans who were
established here before
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helped each other,
so when those Nazis arrived,
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they helped them get key
positions in the government
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and working places.
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- Were there any senior Nazis
who came here after the war?
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We're talking S.S. Generals,
senior party officials.
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- Sí, señor.
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- Does he have names?
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- Juan Keller...
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- Legally, he was known as
Juan Keller.
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- Juan Keller?
- That was his legal name here.
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But it is said he was a higher
position of Nazi.
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He was a person
who lived in the shadows.
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- Having an alias, a false name,
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is distinctly part of a Nazi's
book of tricks.
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You have to keep a low profile
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when you're one of
the most wanted
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war criminals in the world.
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Did he meet this man, himself?
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- Sí.
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- He was just a kid when he
saw him the first time.
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He was riding a horse,
he had a huge leather jacket,
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boots, and he could see
the bump of a gun
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sticking out of his back.
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- Was it normal in those days
for people
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to carry guns around here?
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- No it was not normal,
only people of power,
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people who had a lot of money,
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would go around with guns.
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- Will you tell us
everything that you know
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about what Juan Keller
was doing here?
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- There were people with guns
guarding the perimeter.
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- Armed guards?
- Exactly.
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People were really scared
to see him,
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because there were a lot of
deaths happening around him.
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- So these guys said that
Juan Keller had been born here.
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Saying, "we've known him
since he was a lad."
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- They were both murdered?
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- There's something strange
going on here.
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- We have people dying around
Juan Keller, being murdered,
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disappearing... they're not
coincidences,
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those are specific,
strategic choices.
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He's getting rid of witnesses,
and he's killing threats.
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- But... so this is, what,
in the 1950s?
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- Yes.
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- Which puts him snap
in the timeline here.
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It's very suspicious
that a high-ranking Nazi
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turns up, he's able to buy
three large tracts of land
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and armed guards.
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I'd never heard of Juan Keller.
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He must be very, very important.
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- Who is Juan Keller?
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Do you know his name
during the war?
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- That's the
Million Dollar Question.
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- Is there anyone else
that we can talk to
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to get more information
about Juan Keller?
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- Just...
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Just the daughter
who lives in Osorno.
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- She's still alive?
- Sí.
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- Her name is Eliana Keller.
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- How do we find her?
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- We have to talk to her.
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That is a relative
that is still alive
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and living in this area.
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- Let's go find the woman.
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- Appreciate your time.
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- If we can track down
Eliana Keller,
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she could have information about
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the Nazi network infrastructure
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that was here in Osorno, Chile.
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We could blow this investigation
wide open.
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- Let's take a look
at what we have in Osorno.
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We have a local eye witness,
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who's telling us
for the first time
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about a man by the name
of Juan Keller.
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Bob and John review the findings
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from Osorno, Chile, where the
team is in search of evidence
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that Hitler could have moved to
this area
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after fleeing Argentina.
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They have uncovered a potential
high-ranking Nazi
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living in Osorno under the
alias, Juan Keller.
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- I mean, John, from the
description of this guy,
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it looks like he's on the run.
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He's carrying a weapon,
he's German, very intimidating,
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and if he's living
under a pseudonym,
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he's got to be fairly important.
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I mean, a low-level Nazi
is not going to
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take all this effort
to hide his identity
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and kill the witnesses.
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- Agreed... and then we have
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his daughter, Eliana Keller,
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she's alive,
she's still in the area,
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and she is a potential source
of information
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surrounding the true identity
of Juan Keller.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- This is interesting,
it's an adoption certification.
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It's showing her, Eliana Keller,
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being born 1954
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and it identifies the
adopting father
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as Juan Keller.
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If he is established as a
Chilean National,
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he has a daughter who is a
Chilean National,
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and at some point in the future,
there's an extradition request.
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It would throw a serious
curveball
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into the extradition process
altogether.
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- If he was pretending
to be Chilean,
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and had a Chilean child
by adoption,
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it would offer him a certain
amount of protection.
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- Who is Juan Keller?
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We need to find out. - Yep.
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- Juan Keller, Worldwide,
Chile...
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What do we got, Bob?
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- FBI, December 19th, 1945.
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"Martin Bormann,
well known Nazi war criminal,
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"was traveling in Latin America
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under the name of Keller."
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Can you believe that? Keller.
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- Juan Keller's potential
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real identity is Martin Bormann.
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- It's a huge, blazing lead.
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It's absolutely crucial
we get to Eliana Keller.
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Talk about a firsthand witness,
the daughter is it.
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And Bormann was Hitler's
right hand man.
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He's the natural person to
follow to lead us to Hitler.
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So, finding somebody
like this is key.
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- The team needs to locate
Eliana Keller.
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Fortunately, we have a lead.
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One of her relatives,
Gabriella Asenco.
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If she's willing to cooperate,
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perhaps that'll
take us to Eliana.
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- Yep. Let's do it.
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- Well, we're here.
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- Let's see if we can pinpoint
which house it is.
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In Osorno, Chile,
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Tim Kennedy
and Gerrard Williams,
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with the help of their
translator, America,
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arrive at the home
of Gabriela Osenco,
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a reported relative
of Eliana Keller.
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- Hopefully, we don't
scare her off.
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Both of us are intimidating.
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Maybe you two walk up and I'll...
- You can come join us.
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Gabriela Osenco is essential
to this investigation.
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She's the woman
we hope will lead us
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to Martin Bormann's daughter.
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If it is Martin Bormann,
we need this person.
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- Señora Osenco.
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- Hola.
- Hola.
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- Señora, we've been given your
name by a man called
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Ruben Ramirez because we are
looking for a lady called
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Eliana Keller. Can you help us?
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Do you know were she is? - No.
256
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- So you're not related
to Eliana?
257
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- She was married
to her brother.
258
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- And she has had
no contact with her since?
259
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- No.
- Okay.
260
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This is my colleague, Tim.
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- Her brother,
is he still alive?
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- In the cemetery.
- He's in the cemetery.
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- Okay.
- Um...
264
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- Do you know anyone that could
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get a hold of
Eliana Keller for us?
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- No.
267
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- Um...
- Did you know a Juan Keller?
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- Eliana's father?
269
00:14:02,976 --> 00:14:06,611
- How long did Juan Keller
live in Osorno?
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- No, she doesn't know.
- Doesn't know.
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We'd like to stay in touch,
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and if she can find any
information at all about Eliana,
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we would be very grateful.
274
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- I mean... hey, I have
one more question.
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Juan Keller, was he a good guy?
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Was he a nice guy?
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Did the people around him
like him?
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- There's a rumor that
Juan Keller is Martin Bormann.
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Is that true?
280
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- Unbelievable.
281
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If you have Martin Bormann,
you have Adolf Hitler.
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I realize it's sensitive,
but we have to talk to her.
283
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- She's going to find out,
284
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and when she has
the exact address,
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she will give you a call.
286
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- Muchas gracias.
Thank you so much.
287
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- We'll be expecting your call.
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Thank you.
289
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We are so close right now
290
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to finding Eliana Keller.
291
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Eliana Keller could be the key
to this entire investigation.
292
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If we can talk to
Martin Bormann's daughter,
293
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we might find
more evidence than ever
294
00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:34,299
of what Adolf Hitler did after
he left the bunker in 1945.
295
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- The team needs to keep
investigating in Chile.
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- It's clear we have to
talk to Eliana.
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While the field team
continues to dig in Chile,
298
00:15:46,913 --> 00:15:49,480
Bob and John discuss
opening another leg
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00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:51,849
of their investigation
into where Hitler
300
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could've gone if he was forced
to flee Argentina in 1955,
301
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after Peron fell from power.
302
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- In Argentina, we have two
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00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:03,161
potential locations for Hitler:
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Bariloche, Inalco house.
305
00:16:07,801 --> 00:16:09,500
And you've got Misiones.
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The Nazi compound.
307
00:16:11,705 --> 00:16:16,207
We've now examined the
possibility that under duress,
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00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:20,111
Nazis could have run across the
border from Bariloche to Chile.
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If you're fleeing Misiones,
you're not gonna be going
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all the way across
Argentina to Bariloche
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and then to Chile, it's too far.
312
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Misiones is right on the border
of Paraguay.
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So what happened to these guys?
314
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- The first Nazi party that was
organized outside of Germany
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was in the late 1920s,
and it was in Paraguay.
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If Argentina was to become
compromised,
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it would make sense
to have two plan Bs:
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Chile and Paraguay.
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Misiones, which is just a few
miles south of Paraguay,
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there's the other plan B.
321
00:16:57,984 --> 00:17:00,418
- Paraguay sided with
Nazi Germany.
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They protected 'em.
323
00:17:02,155 --> 00:17:04,722
If you're in Misiones,
had to get out quick,
324
00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:08,559
Peron falls, cross the
piranha river, you're safe.
325
00:17:08,661 --> 00:17:10,473
What kind of facilities
do you get in Paraguay?
326
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What do we have there?
327
00:17:12,198 --> 00:17:16,234
- Okay, let's take a look at
Paraguay and Nazis...
328
00:17:18,571 --> 00:17:23,107
- Look, here we go, this is a
secret document declassified.
329
00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:25,309
CIA.
330
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March, 1965.
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00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:30,415
"Bormann is in Paraguay.
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"Bormann, guarded by four men
333
00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:34,452
"equipped with walkie-talkies,
334
00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:36,587
has four different hideouts."
335
00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,792
- I see this as significant.
- Yeah.
336
00:17:40,894 --> 00:17:43,828
- So as the team keeps
digging into Chile,
337
00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:47,298
we need to send another team
to Paraguay.
338
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,634
- Yeah, Asunción,
the capital of Paraguay.
339
00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,169
Let's start right there.
340
00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:53,337
Asunción is close to Misiones.
341
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,972
If there are any documents,
342
00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:57,675
if there are any facilities,
they would be there.
343
00:17:57,777 --> 00:17:59,522
- I think we need to
get Mike Simpson.
344
00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:01,891
He did a great job
for us in Spain
345
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,649
and in Morocco and I think
we should have Graeme Wood.
346
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:05,991
He's a Bormann expert.
347
00:18:12,892 --> 00:18:15,626
- If there's any evidence
relative to Martin Bormann
348
00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:18,207
in Paraguay,
Graeme Wood is our man.
349
00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:21,966
Let's get them on mission;
let's get them into Paraguay.
350
00:18:22,068 --> 00:18:23,068
- I agree.
351
00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:43,354
- Did any big name Nazis come
into Paraguay?
352
00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:45,056
That's what I want to know.
353
00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:47,992
U.S. Army recon
expert Mike Simpson,
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00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:50,139
investigative journalist
Graeme Wood,
355
00:18:50,163 --> 00:18:52,663
and their translator, Jorge,
are in search of evidence
356
00:18:52,765 --> 00:18:55,533
that Hitler could have
fled to Paraguay.
357
00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,869
- When you're trying to
investigate something
358
00:18:57,971 --> 00:19:00,015
that lot of people don't want
you to know about,
359
00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:02,773
it's very difficult to weed out
the truth from the fiction.
360
00:19:02,876 --> 00:19:05,020
As a journalist,
it's my job to check out
361
00:19:05,044 --> 00:19:08,179
every little loose thread
to see if it leads somewhere.
362
00:19:08,281 --> 00:19:09,914
- Dr. Fernandez.
363
00:19:10,016 --> 00:19:11,482
They make contact with former
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00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:14,285
Supreme Court Justice,
Dr. Jose Fernandez,
365
00:19:14,387 --> 00:19:16,587
who has agreed to grant
the team access
366
00:19:16,689 --> 00:19:18,434
to classified government
documents
367
00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:21,259
concerning Nazis
on the run in Paraguay.
368
00:19:28,868 --> 00:19:31,969
- The government at the time
had a very close connection
369
00:19:32,071 --> 00:19:33,938
to the German Nazis.
370
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,275
That's all thoroughly
documented, and there's still
371
00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:39,857
a lot more to go through,
because the file
372
00:19:39,913 --> 00:19:42,091
is just so huge,
that requires more time
373
00:19:42,115 --> 00:19:43,648
to be examined thoroughly.
374
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:45,861
- The opening up of the
Paraguayan archives
375
00:19:45,885 --> 00:19:48,786
is a really big event,
because there was a huge amount
376
00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:51,289
of material that
the regime had gathered
377
00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:53,691
about Nazis who were
living in Paraguay.
378
00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:56,794
These are documents
that were kept secret.
379
00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:58,329
- Do we have any information
380
00:19:58,431 --> 00:20:02,800
from these files about Nazis
escaping their war crimes
381
00:20:02,902 --> 00:20:03,902
here in Paraguay?
382
00:20:11,578 --> 00:20:13,678
- This is huge.
383
00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:15,713
Right here, look at
this sub paragraph.
384
00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,815
It starts off,
"Martin Bormann, number one,"
385
00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:19,016
all in caps.
386
00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:20,484
So he knew this was important,
387
00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:21,597
this was an important find
388
00:20:21,621 --> 00:20:23,154
that he's reporting to his boss.
389
00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:25,690
"Martin Bormann,
Chief of the Nazi Party,
390
00:20:25,792 --> 00:20:30,094
came to Paraguay
and lived here for some time."
391
00:20:30,196 --> 00:20:32,830
According to this,
"Bormann eventually succumbed
392
00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:36,167
to his illness, stomach cancer,
and he was buried
393
00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:40,504
on the night of the 17th
of February, 1959,
394
00:20:40,607 --> 00:20:44,208
in the cemetery in Ita,
near Asunción."
395
00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:46,855
- This is huge.
- Mm-hmm.
396
00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:48,757
- We're talking about
information that people
397
00:20:48,781 --> 00:20:50,848
in many continents
would want to know.
398
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:53,195
And what's so tantalizing
about this report,
399
00:20:53,219 --> 00:20:55,331
is these are details
that could have been left out
400
00:20:55,355 --> 00:20:59,056
if the informant wanted to, uh,
just cook up a story,
401
00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:01,136
but instead, there's some
verifiable stuff.
402
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,694
They say where he was buried
and we could go there
403
00:21:03,796 --> 00:21:04,873
to find out more about that.
404
00:21:04,897 --> 00:21:06,264
- Yeah.
405
00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:08,032
Earlier in the investigation,
406
00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:10,468
the team discovered that
Bormann may not have died
407
00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:12,970
in Germany
at the end of World War II.
408
00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:16,107
When his remains were uncovered
in Berlin in 1972,
409
00:21:16,209 --> 00:21:18,909
they were covered with
a mysterious red clay.
410
00:21:19,012 --> 00:21:21,545
- When people looked at those
bones, there was the fact that
411
00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:24,215
the soil attached
to the bones, um,
412
00:21:24,317 --> 00:21:27,985
had a kind of red,
iron rich clay.
413
00:21:28,087 --> 00:21:30,821
Uh, which is something that you
don't find anywhere in Germany
414
00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:37,395
This document
that mentions Martin Bormann
415
00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:40,097
has a remarkable
level of detail.
416
00:21:40,199 --> 00:21:41,710
Martin Bormann
might have survived,
417
00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:44,468
lived in Paraguay and been
buried here before,
418
00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:47,271
been dug up and then planted
back in Berlin.
419
00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:51,776
Which would in itself be an
incredible thing to discover.
420
00:21:59,686 --> 00:22:01,519
- And you have
their contact information?
421
00:22:03,089 --> 00:22:06,524
- History says that Bormann died
in Berlin in 1945.
422
00:22:06,626 --> 00:22:09,927
If we can develop any proof
at all that Bormann died
423
00:22:10,029 --> 00:22:12,129
and was buried in South America,
424
00:22:12,231 --> 00:22:15,032
then Hitler being alive
and also being in South America
425
00:22:15,134 --> 00:22:17,201
becomes even more likely.
426
00:22:17,303 --> 00:22:19,423
Everything is now different at
this point.
427
00:22:26,412 --> 00:22:27,678
- This is the neighborhood.
428
00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:29,213
In Ita, Paraguay,
429
00:22:29,315 --> 00:22:31,816
Mike Simpson
and his translator, Jorge,
430
00:22:31,918 --> 00:22:33,762
are in search of evidence
that Hitler could have
431
00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:35,486
fled to this area.
432
00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:38,055
They are following a
confidential Paraguayan file
433
00:22:38,157 --> 00:22:40,691
that claims that this area
was the final resting place
434
00:22:40,793 --> 00:22:43,594
for Martin Bormann,
15 years after
435
00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:45,307
he was believed
to have died at the end of
436
00:22:45,331 --> 00:22:47,064
World War II in Berlin.
437
00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:01,345
They make contact
with a local woman,
438
00:23:01,447 --> 00:23:03,292
who was reported to have
information
439
00:23:03,316 --> 00:23:05,416
regarding Bormann's burial.
440
00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:06,528
- She says it's okay,
we can just, um...
441
00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:08,219
- Sí, sí.
442
00:23:08,321 --> 00:23:09,998
- History as it's written
has always told us
443
00:23:10,022 --> 00:23:12,223
that Martin Bormann
died in Berlin.
444
00:23:12,325 --> 00:23:15,893
If we prove that Martin Bormann
was buried here in 1959,
445
00:23:15,962 --> 00:23:18,596
then this is ground zero
for the investigation
446
00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:23,200
to go forward to prove that
Adolf Hitler was also here.
447
00:23:23,302 --> 00:23:25,180
I was told that
you have information
448
00:23:25,204 --> 00:23:29,640
pertaining to the burial of
Martin Bormann here in Paraguay.
449
00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,739
You went with
your father that night
450
00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:52,875
and you witnessed
all of this first hand.
451
00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:54,598
- Sí, sí, sí.
452
00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:55,700
- Sí.
453
00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:57,168
- Did they say specifically,
454
00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:59,750
"this is the body
of Martin Bormann"?
455
00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:10,181
- Do you remember
the location of the grave?
456
00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:12,194
If we were to take you
to that cemetery,
457
00:24:12,218 --> 00:24:14,698
could you find
that location again?
458
00:24:37,777 --> 00:24:40,177
- And he lives in this area?
459
00:24:41,747 --> 00:24:43,091
- We're gonna need to
talk to him.
460
00:24:43,115 --> 00:24:44,560
- Okay.
- Gracias.
461
00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:45,816
- Bueno.
462
00:24:45,918 --> 00:24:48,352
- Eye-witness reports
give you a depth
463
00:24:48,454 --> 00:24:50,654
that archival data cannot match.
464
00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:53,157
Having an eye witness,
someone who was actually there,
465
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:56,427
standing at the grave site when
Martin Bormann was buried...
466
00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:58,662
This is huge.
467
00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:00,364
We need to talk to this guy.
468
00:25:00,466 --> 00:25:02,933
Mike joins up with Graeme Wood.
469
00:25:03,035 --> 00:25:05,870
They head for the reported
location of an eye witness...
470
00:25:05,972 --> 00:25:08,105
- That looks like the one,
right there.
471
00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:09,874
Who could potentially point them
472
00:25:09,976 --> 00:25:12,376
to the precise site where
Bormann was buried.
473
00:25:12,478 --> 00:25:14,278
- It's the place.
474
00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:22,364
- Mucho gusto.
475
00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:24,121
- I was told that
you have information
476
00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:27,992
about where Martin Bormann
was buried, here in Paraguay.
477
00:25:39,472 --> 00:25:41,005
- I know you're a busy man.
478
00:25:41,107 --> 00:25:44,608
Could you show us right now
where that grave is?
479
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:47,190
- No problem. Vamos.
480
00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:51,293
- At every point in our
investigation,
481
00:25:51,317 --> 00:25:53,295
we found Bormann
and Hitler coming up
482
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,920
in all the same locations
in the right time frame.
483
00:25:56,022 --> 00:25:57,766
If we can find
any evidence at all
484
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,424
that Martin Bormann
was laid to rest in this grave,
485
00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:03,060
then the next question is,
what about Hitler?
486
00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:05,362
Did he end up in Paraguay also?
487
00:26:26,152 --> 00:26:27,318
- So this is it?
488
00:26:30,323 --> 00:26:31,822
- That's right.
489
00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,669
- How did you happen
to get the information?
490
00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:36,013
Is this something
that you saw for yourself?
491
00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:50,886
- He was working for the priest
at the time,
492
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:54,111
so he had to be there
the day after he was buried.
493
00:26:54,213 --> 00:26:56,224
- When was the first time
that people
494
00:26:56,248 --> 00:27:00,818
began to whisper about
the true nature of this grave?
495
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,987
- The day after he was
supposedly buried here,
496
00:27:03,089 --> 00:27:04,188
people started talking.
497
00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:06,690
They were saying
that some warlord
498
00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,192
uh, was brought here
from Ascension.
499
00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:09,793
That's what the people
were saying.
500
00:27:09,895 --> 00:27:12,296
And then he tried to confirm it
and asked the priest later
501
00:27:12,398 --> 00:27:14,531
that was what happened,
and the priest kind of, like,
502
00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:17,101
just said that Martin Bormann
was buried here.
503
00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:19,114
- The priest said
that Martin Bormann
504
00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:20,378
was buried in this grave?
505
00:27:21,741 --> 00:27:23,741
- What was the name
of this priest?
506
00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:28,345
- And what can you tell me
about Asencio Ayala?
507
00:27:28,447 --> 00:27:30,981
- This priest was not only a
very important member
508
00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:33,061
of the community,
but also really well connected
509
00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:34,284
with powerful people.
510
00:27:34,387 --> 00:27:35,786
He worked for the army.
511
00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:39,023
- He was a Chaplain?
- Yeah, Chaplain, yeah.
512
00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:42,459
- This priest would have had
direct ties to the capital,
513
00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,805
to the military power structure,
514
00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:45,896
and to the
president of Paraguay.
515
00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:48,210
That tells me this goes to
the highest levels,
516
00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:49,645
and I think
they still had things
517
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:50,968
that they wanted to hide.
518
00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:54,038
Who else was here,
who else was alive?
519
00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:56,206
Let me widen this for the auger
a little bit.
520
00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,208
Mike and Graeme
are granted access
521
00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:00,744
to investigate the grave site
that is reported
522
00:28:00,846 --> 00:28:03,147
to have housed
Martin Bormann's remains.
523
00:28:03,249 --> 00:28:05,582
- I see some good,
soft earth here.
524
00:28:05,685 --> 00:28:07,217
- Soft is good.
525
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,821
We're starting to see red earth,
that iron rich soil.
526
00:28:10,923 --> 00:28:13,691
- The reports of the skull
exhumed in Berlin
527
00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:15,859
that was DNA matched to Bormann
528
00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:18,328
had this red clay on it.
529
00:28:18,431 --> 00:28:20,898
And we're clearly
seeing a red clay
530
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,034
that at least visually looks
very similar,
531
00:28:24,136 --> 00:28:27,504
and not native to Germany,
not native to Berlin.
532
00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:39,750
- For this being a small town,
533
00:28:39,852 --> 00:28:41,830
she was a difficult woman
to get a hold of.
534
00:28:41,854 --> 00:28:42,753
- Yeah.
535
00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:44,254
Maybe she's a private person
536
00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:46,423
who doesn't want to talk about
the possibility
537
00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:48,125
that Martin Bormann
was Juan Keller.
538
00:28:48,227 --> 00:28:50,294
In Osorno, Chile,
539
00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:54,131
Tim Kennedy, Gerrard Williams,
and their translator, America,
540
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:56,211
arrive at the home
of Eliana Keller,
541
00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,335
the adopted daughter
of Juan Keller,
542
00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:01,438
which according to declassified
FBI documents,
543
00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:04,108
is the alias
used by Martin Bormann
544
00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:07,845
when he moved from
Argentina to Chile.
545
00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:10,881
- Doing an interview like this,
we're re-writing
546
00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:13,951
what people think that they know
about what happened
547
00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:16,353
to the leaders
of the Third Reich.
548
00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:18,889
Eliana Keller,
the daughter of Juan Keller,
549
00:29:18,991 --> 00:29:21,525
potentially could be the
daughter of Martin Bormann,
550
00:29:21,627 --> 00:29:23,994
the second command
of the Third Reich.
551
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,363
If Bormann was here in the open,
552
00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:30,400
how close could
Adolf Hitler have been?
553
00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:34,304
There's a lot of very, very
sensitive issues here,
554
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:38,208
but we know what we need
and we have to get it.
555
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:41,078
- Eliana Keller? Señora Keller?
556
00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:42,591
- Sí.
- Sí?
557
00:29:42,615 --> 00:29:43,514
- Sí?
- Muchas gracias.
558
00:29:43,616 --> 00:29:45,149
- Vamos.
559
00:29:49,188 --> 00:29:50,654
- Thank you for seeing us.
560
00:29:53,092 --> 00:29:55,726
- Eliana we've heard, um,
561
00:29:55,828 --> 00:29:58,495
many tales about, um,
562
00:29:58,597 --> 00:30:02,199
your family and we'd like to
hear your story.
563
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,381
Are you Juan Keller's
natural daughter?
564
00:30:08,774 --> 00:30:12,442
- It was an agreement with
Juan Keller's housekeeper.
565
00:30:14,713 --> 00:30:16,046
- Oh, okay, okay.
566
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,848
- She was adopted at two months.
567
00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:19,928
And...
- Oh a baby, a complete baby.
568
00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:22,052
- Yes, and at five years old,
569
00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:25,355
she started going to
the German school.
570
00:30:25,457 --> 00:30:27,224
- Was your father a German?
571
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:40,282
- What did you father
do for work?
572
00:30:40,306 --> 00:30:44,374
What was his main occupation,
and how many people
573
00:30:44,476 --> 00:30:47,477
did he usually have working
with him or for him?
574
00:30:55,087 --> 00:30:57,788
- It wasn't only the land
he had in Las Trancas,
575
00:30:57,890 --> 00:31:01,225
he had two other places,
and they worked there, too.
576
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:04,127
- So he was wealthy,
he had lots of money?
577
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,300
- Yeah, of course he was.
578
00:31:10,402 --> 00:31:13,570
- How old were you the last time
579
00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:15,839
you saw Juan Keller?
580
00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:28,585
- Never saw him again.
581
00:31:28,687 --> 00:31:31,321
- After your father left
when you were 13,
582
00:31:31,423 --> 00:31:34,691
the story started coming out
that your father, Juan Keller,
583
00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:36,033
was Martin Bormann.
584
00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:37,939
Do you think that that is true?
585
00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:39,574
And that the man that is
Juan Keller
586
00:31:39,598 --> 00:31:44,201
was in fact the fugitive
from World War II?
587
00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:49,050
- He left
and three months later,
588
00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:53,977
she started getting journalists
trying to talk to her.
589
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,213
- Why do you think
your father left?
590
00:32:12,231 --> 00:32:14,831
- So we have a man who speaks
German at home,
591
00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:17,534
is very, very wealthy,
who suddenly runs
592
00:32:17,636 --> 00:32:20,037
when Eichmann is taken...
593
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:22,072
is it Martin Bormann?
594
00:32:23,776 --> 00:32:26,256
- Does this look like
your father?
595
00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:40,490
- We're finding out new things
every day here in Chile.
596
00:32:40,592 --> 00:32:43,160
There has to be far more
to discover,
597
00:32:43,262 --> 00:32:46,063
far more that's been hidden
about exactly what happened.
598
00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:48,999
Because if Bormann's here,
Hitler's not very far away.
599
00:32:49,101 --> 00:32:51,702
- After your father left,
600
00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:54,284
did anyone ever
come looking for him?
601
00:32:56,942 --> 00:32:59,876
- So one day,
four men came to her house
602
00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:04,348
and they said they came
from Colonia Dignidad
603
00:33:04,450 --> 00:33:07,551
and they wanted to know if she
was the daughter
604
00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:08,952
of Martin Bormann.
605
00:33:09,054 --> 00:33:12,689
- Colonia Dignidad.
606
00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,031
- As a journalist,
I remember some of this story
607
00:33:15,127 --> 00:33:19,196
about a place called
Colonia Dignidad here in Chile.
608
00:33:19,298 --> 00:33:20,764
A large German community.
609
00:33:20,866 --> 00:33:22,777
There were rumors
they were involved in murders
610
00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:24,234
and disappearances.
611
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:27,404
So why is this a link
to Martin Bormann?
612
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,986
- What do you think
the men were there for?
613
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:37,280
- She thinks they were
the same kind of people.
614
00:33:41,387 --> 00:33:43,131
- We have to dig
into Colonia Dignidad.
615
00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:44,766
- Yeah. Definitely, definitely.
616
00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:46,001
Is there some sort of
connection between
617
00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:47,624
Nazis and Colonia Dignidad?
618
00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,861
What I do know is it's got
a deep and dark history
619
00:33:50,963 --> 00:33:53,463
and needs a visit.
620
00:33:58,804 --> 00:34:01,204
- So we've got
a team in Paraguay
621
00:34:01,306 --> 00:34:03,840
and we've got in team in Chile.
622
00:34:03,942 --> 00:34:05,842
So what's happening in Chile?
623
00:34:05,944 --> 00:34:07,677
Bob and John
focus on the Chilean leg
624
00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:09,891
of their investigation where
they have interviewed
625
00:34:09,915 --> 00:34:12,649
Eliana Keller, the woman who
claims she was adopted
626
00:34:12,751 --> 00:34:17,154
by Martin Bormann in 1955
in Osorno, Chile.
627
00:34:17,256 --> 00:34:20,824
- Eliana Keller looks at a
photograph of Martin Bormann
628
00:34:20,926 --> 00:34:23,660
and says, "Yes, this is my dad."
629
00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,663
He fled Osorno
when she was 13 years old,
630
00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:30,600
trying to escape from
war crimes investigators.
631
00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,336
And then people from a community
632
00:34:33,439 --> 00:34:36,907
called Colonia Dignidad
came looking for him.
633
00:34:37,009 --> 00:34:41,878
And Eliana describes these
people as... like him, Germans.
634
00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:46,616
- Clearly, uh,
this is a serious lead.
635
00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:50,053
Something's going on here in
Colonia Dignidad.
636
00:34:50,155 --> 00:34:51,955
What do we know
about this place?
637
00:34:52,057 --> 00:34:54,624
- It is, uh, a secretive place
638
00:34:54,726 --> 00:34:56,471
in the middle of nowhere
in Chile.
639
00:34:56,495 --> 00:35:00,263
It started with this guy
right here: Paul Schafer.
640
00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,767
Paul Schafer was a Nazi corporal
641
00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:05,635
during World War II.
642
00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:10,640
In 1959, he fled Germany after
being accused of sexual abuse.
643
00:35:10,709 --> 00:35:13,944
And in 1961,
he surfaced in Chile,
644
00:35:14,046 --> 00:35:16,046
along with 300 German followers,
645
00:35:16,148 --> 00:35:18,193
where they formed
a secretive community
646
00:35:18,217 --> 00:35:21,885
in the Andes mountains,
know as Colonia Dignidad.
647
00:35:21,987 --> 00:35:26,389
The colony's true intentions
are still debated to this day.
648
00:35:26,492 --> 00:35:29,226
- There were rumors of torture
649
00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:32,295
and homicide and sexual abuse.
650
00:35:32,397 --> 00:35:36,299
All sorts of egregious,
horrendous crimes.
651
00:35:36,401 --> 00:35:38,468
This is a place that conjures up
652
00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:41,972
images of sheer fear
653
00:35:42,074 --> 00:35:45,308
in the faces of Chileans
654
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:46,643
to this day.
655
00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:49,090
At its height, the community
656
00:35:49,114 --> 00:35:52,082
had 53 square miles
657
00:35:52,184 --> 00:35:55,152
of essentially
sovereign territory.
658
00:35:55,254 --> 00:35:58,221
Nobody from the outside was
coming in, that's to be sure.
659
00:35:58,290 --> 00:36:01,258
- You have a
remote part of Chile,
660
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,628
a German community,
run by a Nazi corporal.
661
00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:06,997
And the fact they were in
connection with Bormann,
662
00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:08,632
this is huge.
663
00:36:08,734 --> 00:36:10,694
So what do the files
have on this?
664
00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:15,005
- Colonia Dignidad.
665
00:36:15,107 --> 00:36:18,041
Here we go. It's a CIA document.
666
00:36:18,143 --> 00:36:21,444
"Colonia Dignidad
is a private encampment,
667
00:36:21,547 --> 00:36:24,814
"reportedly run in the fashion
of a religious cult.
668
00:36:24,917 --> 00:36:27,317
"Colonia Dignidad
has also been accused of
669
00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:28,852
other nefarious activities."
670
00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:30,787
And it goes on to say:
671
00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:34,057
"Elements persist in Chile
that would willingly provide
672
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,494
succor to a fleeing
Nazi war criminal."
673
00:36:37,596 --> 00:36:41,131
- You basically have a community
674
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:45,001
where Germans can go and,
within those walls
675
00:36:45,103 --> 00:36:47,671
of that community,
remain very secretive.
676
00:36:47,773 --> 00:36:50,507
Where is this place?
677
00:36:50,609 --> 00:36:53,877
- All right, Chile is a long
country going all the way up
678
00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:57,147
from Peru down to basically
Antarctica.
679
00:36:57,249 --> 00:36:58,882
And here we have Argentina.
680
00:36:58,984 --> 00:37:00,984
Cross over the Andes Mountains,
681
00:37:01,086 --> 00:37:04,221
where Colonia Dignidad
once stood.
682
00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:08,058
They've changed their name to
the Villa Baviera,
683
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,993
"the Bavarian village."
684
00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:13,430
- Bavaria village?
685
00:37:13,532 --> 00:37:16,399
Inside these cults,
the first rule is,
686
00:37:16,501 --> 00:37:17,612
don't talk to outsiders.
687
00:37:17,636 --> 00:37:19,369
It'd be a great place to hide.
688
00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:22,072
But they're not gonna want to
talk about their Nazi past
689
00:37:22,174 --> 00:37:24,018
or the cult past,
or any part of it.
690
00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,920
Let's get Tim and Mike in there,
find out what's,
691
00:37:25,944 --> 00:37:27,277
you know, what it is.
692
00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:28,923
- I can't think of
two better people
693
00:37:28,947 --> 00:37:31,214
based upon their backgrounds
in special forces.
694
00:37:31,316 --> 00:37:34,384
It's not going to be easy,
but they can do it
695
00:37:34,486 --> 00:37:37,220
and minimize the attention
that's drawn upon them.
696
00:37:37,322 --> 00:37:39,289
- Let's get into
Colonia Dignidad.
697
00:37:50,736 --> 00:37:52,302
- Look at this.
698
00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:53,404
You're isolated.
699
00:37:53,472 --> 00:37:55,071
You control the area.
700
00:37:55,173 --> 00:37:57,540
In the remote
foothills of the Chilean Andes,
701
00:37:57,643 --> 00:38:00,877
Tim Kennedy and Mike Simpson
join forces,
702
00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:02,690
along with their translator,
America,
703
00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:05,448
in hopes of gaining entry
into Colonia Dignidad,
704
00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:07,450
now known as Villa Baviera.
705
00:38:09,988 --> 00:38:12,228
- Mile marker-wise,
we should be getting close.
706
00:38:12,257 --> 00:38:13,668
- This is in
the middle of nowhere.
707
00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,425
- Yeah.
708
00:38:15,527 --> 00:38:18,928
- Colonia Dignidad
was put here for a reason.
709
00:38:19,031 --> 00:38:20,830
They wanted to be isolated.
710
00:38:20,932 --> 00:38:23,500
Tactically, if you're hiding
a high value target,
711
00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:26,603
Colonia Dignidad
is flawlessly selected.
712
00:38:26,705 --> 00:38:30,640
It's mile after mile after mile
of nothing.
713
00:38:30,742 --> 00:38:32,687
- Should be coming up
on our turn.
714
00:38:32,711 --> 00:38:34,244
- Villa Baviera.
715
00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:35,645
This is the name of it right?
716
00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:37,580
- Yeah, pull over right here.
717
00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:42,585
I didn't expect a sign.
718
00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:44,421
"Complejo turistico."
719
00:38:44,523 --> 00:38:46,089
Tourist complex.
720
00:38:46,191 --> 00:38:47,902
- Colonia Dignidad?
Where's that at?
721
00:38:47,926 --> 00:38:49,659
- No reference to it,
722
00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:51,372
just Villa Baviera, that's it.
723
00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:53,207
- I mean, I realize that they
changed their name,
724
00:38:53,231 --> 00:38:56,099
I just didn't realize that they
had changed everything.
725
00:38:57,369 --> 00:38:58,535
- Look at this.
726
00:38:58,637 --> 00:39:00,503
Restaurant, hotel, events.
727
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:03,606
People get married out there?
728
00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:05,508
This is disturbing, Tim.
729
00:39:05,610 --> 00:39:10,113
We're going into something that,
to me, looks like a deception.
730
00:39:10,215 --> 00:39:11,793
- If they get wind
of what we're here for?
731
00:39:11,817 --> 00:39:13,350
It's dangerous.
732
00:39:13,452 --> 00:39:17,287
- That makes the hairs on the
back of my neck stand up.
733
00:39:17,389 --> 00:39:18,966
- So how do we
want to play this?
734
00:39:18,990 --> 00:39:21,624
- I think if we go in
firing off questions,
735
00:39:21,727 --> 00:39:23,037
using the word Nazi,
I don't think
736
00:39:23,061 --> 00:39:24,527
that's gonna go well for us.
737
00:39:24,629 --> 00:39:26,708
I don't think this can be
field interrogation style,
738
00:39:26,732 --> 00:39:29,199
I think this need to be
passive collection style.
739
00:39:29,301 --> 00:39:31,134
They have an agenda.
740
00:39:31,236 --> 00:39:33,670
Let's let them think
that we're buying the story
741
00:39:33,772 --> 00:39:35,783
and that we're on board
with the agenda.
742
00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:38,208
- Let's see what they show us.
743
00:39:38,343 --> 00:39:40,743
If they're gonna treat this
like a tourist attraction,
744
00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:42,679
we have to change our strategy.
745
00:39:42,781 --> 00:39:44,892
So we're gonna go in
and we're gonna approach this
746
00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:47,150
like a soft sell interrogation.
747
00:39:47,252 --> 00:39:49,319
This is us letting them say
748
00:39:49,421 --> 00:39:51,488
whatever they want to say.
749
00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:52,889
- Whoa, whoa, whoa!
750
00:39:52,991 --> 00:39:55,592
Look at this.
751
00:39:55,694 --> 00:39:57,127
- Look at the fence change.
752
00:39:57,229 --> 00:39:59,396
- We're seeing this cheap,
four strand barbed wire
753
00:39:59,498 --> 00:40:02,065
the whole way,
and then all of a sudden that.
754
00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:03,733
Look!
755
00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:05,555
See the rock? - Yeah.
756
00:40:05,604 --> 00:40:07,971
- What's it say on it?
- Villa Baviera.
757
00:40:08,073 --> 00:40:10,273
- This is their fence.
758
00:40:10,342 --> 00:40:12,742
This high-grade fence is theirs.
759
00:40:12,844 --> 00:40:14,489
- You know, last time I saw
a fence like that,
760
00:40:14,513 --> 00:40:15,912
I was on a military base.
761
00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:20,750
- Look at this.
762
00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:22,685
- Guard tower.
763
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,988
- Right away,
my spider sense is tingling.
764
00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:26,934
I know something
was going on here.
765
00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:28,158
- Oh, my God.
766
00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:29,780
- There's no reason
to have that there,
767
00:40:29,861 --> 00:40:31,494
except to cover the road.
768
00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,941
They were setting up physical
and technological barriers.
769
00:40:33,965 --> 00:40:35,498
- This road's locked down.
770
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,435
This is the only way in,
the only way out.
771
00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:40,214
All right, here...
We got a checkpoint.
772
00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:42,539
- They were protecting
a dark secret.
773
00:40:42,641 --> 00:40:44,140
- Do you see the cameras?
774
00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:45,753
Look at the left corner
of the building,
775
00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:47,277
over the top of the lights.
776
00:40:47,379 --> 00:40:49,190
So at night,
you can't see those cameras.
777
00:40:49,214 --> 00:40:51,025
- What was it
that was so important
778
00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:53,450
that it would be worthy of
keeping it a secret?
779
00:40:53,552 --> 00:40:56,786
- This is a fully functional
checkpoint.
780
00:40:56,888 --> 00:41:00,623
Welcome to the utopian German
colony, Villa Baviera.
781
00:41:03,595 --> 00:41:05,662
Next time on "Hunting Hitler"...
782
00:41:05,764 --> 00:41:09,032
- If Adolf Hitler's bodyguard
was in Colonia Dignidad,
783
00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:10,467
who was he protecting?
784
00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:12,613
- With or without their
cooperation,
785
00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:14,037
we will get to the truth.
786
00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:22,245
- Nothing could go in or out of
Colonia Dignidad
787
00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:24,387
without somebody seeing
it from here.
788
00:41:28,687 --> 00:41:30,153
What the?
789
00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:32,295
Yeah, they're sound-proofing
this room.
790
00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:37,760
- They built guns.
791
00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:42,565
- There was also chemical
weapons, like sarin gas.
792
00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:44,067
- Sarin gas?
793
00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:47,337
- If you have a system
to disperse sarin,
794
00:41:47,439 --> 00:41:50,874
you can take out
a major American city.
795
00:41:50,976 --> 00:41:52,587
This isn't the
Fourth Reich in theory,
796
00:41:52,611 --> 00:41:54,571
this is the Fourth Reich in act.
797
00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:57,595
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