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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,403 --> 00:00:03,902 Previously on "Hunting Hitler"... 2 00:00:03,971 --> 00:00:06,538 - They had a plan for mass destruction 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,807 in the United States, using a weapon 4 00:00:08,909 --> 00:00:12,711 with a kill radius which would have taken out Manhattan. 5 00:00:14,415 --> 00:00:15,714 - We need to know everything 6 00:00:15,816 --> 00:00:17,182 about a Nazi scientist 7 00:00:17,284 --> 00:00:18,650 called Dr. Richter. 8 00:00:18,753 --> 00:00:20,319 - He got himself an island. 9 00:00:20,421 --> 00:00:23,022 - Richter's laboratory was cutting-edge, 10 00:00:23,124 --> 00:00:24,801 with machines that would enable him 11 00:00:24,825 --> 00:00:26,892 to develop a nuclear weapon. 12 00:00:26,994 --> 00:00:28,727 - We have Inalco over here, 13 00:00:28,829 --> 00:00:30,662 Dr. Richter with island Huemul, 14 00:00:30,765 --> 00:00:32,598 the bunker destroyed in 1955, 15 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:34,333 an observation tower. 16 00:00:34,435 --> 00:00:36,113 Somebody sat back with a map and said, 17 00:00:36,137 --> 00:00:38,115 "I'm gonna put an outpost here, I'm gonna put 18 00:00:38,139 --> 00:00:39,649 "Adolf Hitler here, and I'm gonna put 19 00:00:39,673 --> 00:00:41,840 a nuclear weapon program here." 20 00:00:41,942 --> 00:00:44,576 What I see here is the Fourth Reich's blueprint. 21 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,600 HUNTING HITLER - SEASON 2 EP - 7 - Unmarked Grave 22 00:00:51,285 --> 00:00:55,254 - Our intelligence leads us to Huemul Island. 23 00:00:55,356 --> 00:00:56,889 Here Dr. Richter, 24 00:00:56,991 --> 00:01:00,225 with the acquiescence of Juan Peron, 25 00:01:00,327 --> 00:01:03,796 is developing nuclear technology. 26 00:01:03,898 --> 00:01:06,698 Bob Baer and Dr. John Cencich 27 00:01:06,801 --> 00:01:09,168 review the findings from Bariloche, Argentina, 28 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:11,403 where they have uncovered Huemul Island, 29 00:01:11,505 --> 00:01:13,972 a nuclear facility run by a scientist 30 00:01:14,075 --> 00:01:17,376 with Nazi ties just 30 miles from the Inalco house, 31 00:01:17,478 --> 00:01:19,711 a possible safe haven for Adolf Hitler, 32 00:01:19,814 --> 00:01:22,614 as well as several military installations in the area. 33 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:24,494 - Look at the totality of evidence, 34 00:01:24,518 --> 00:01:26,151 not any one piece of it. 35 00:01:26,253 --> 00:01:28,954 So these people had on their mind, 36 00:01:29,056 --> 00:01:31,001 uh, creating the Fourth Reich. 37 00:01:31,025 --> 00:01:34,426 In Bariloche, you have the Inalco house. 38 00:01:34,528 --> 00:01:36,762 You've got the watchtower. 39 00:01:36,864 --> 00:01:38,263 You've got the bunker. 40 00:01:38,365 --> 00:01:42,668 You have a clandestine nuclear facility. 41 00:01:42,770 --> 00:01:46,071 They had the elements to create the Fourth Reich, 42 00:01:46,173 --> 00:01:47,573 but something went wrong. 43 00:01:47,675 --> 00:01:49,241 What happened? 44 00:01:49,343 --> 00:01:52,678 - We know that the Argentinean military 45 00:01:52,746 --> 00:01:55,314 took efforts to destroy the energy facility 46 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:58,117 on Huemul Island and the bunker. 47 00:02:05,593 --> 00:02:11,330 - In 1955, Juan Peron is ousted, he's no longer in power, 48 00:02:11,432 --> 00:02:13,765 this is my theory that the Argentinean government 49 00:02:13,868 --> 00:02:18,170 is trying to remove any evidence of cooperation 50 00:02:18,272 --> 00:02:22,474 or the appearance of cooperation with the Nazi regime. 51 00:02:22,576 --> 00:02:24,676 In September 1955, 52 00:02:24,778 --> 00:02:27,646 the fascist dictator of Argentina, Juan Peron, 53 00:02:27,748 --> 00:02:29,788 who provided refuge to thousands of 54 00:02:29,884 --> 00:02:32,618 Nazi war criminals, was driven from power 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,654 by a military coup and remained in exile 56 00:02:35,756 --> 00:02:38,824 for nearly two decades in Spain. 57 00:02:38,926 --> 00:02:41,059 - If Hitler made it to Argentina, 58 00:02:41,162 --> 00:02:44,163 Peron is overthrown in '55, 59 00:02:44,265 --> 00:02:47,166 Hitler would have been obligated to get up and move. 60 00:02:47,268 --> 00:02:49,201 Not only obligated, there would have been 61 00:02:49,303 --> 00:02:51,303 preparations in place. 62 00:02:51,405 --> 00:02:52,671 They went somewhere. 63 00:02:52,773 --> 00:02:54,013 Where did they go at that point? 64 00:02:54,108 --> 00:02:55,707 - From Bariloche, 65 00:02:55,809 --> 00:02:58,289 Chile is right over the mountain range. 66 00:03:01,081 --> 00:03:04,583 The Chilean government allowed thousands of Nazis 67 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:07,819 to enter following the Second World War, 68 00:03:07,922 --> 00:03:10,989 and they lived with a lot of autonomy, 69 00:03:11,091 --> 00:03:14,893 so it's a perfect place for fleeing Nazis 70 00:03:14,995 --> 00:03:17,095 to make their way to. 71 00:03:17,198 --> 00:03:21,533 - Okay, Chile and Nazi... 72 00:03:25,606 --> 00:03:30,275 - Yeah, this is interesting, dated 2nd July, 1943. 73 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:33,345 It's a memorandum from J. Edgar Hoover himself, 74 00:03:33,447 --> 00:03:38,717 pro-Nazi personalities in the vicinity of Osorno, Chile. 75 00:03:38,819 --> 00:03:43,088 Each paragraph is highlighted by different Nazi activities. 76 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:46,458 There is a, uh, a network 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,460 of Nazi support 78 00:03:48,562 --> 00:03:52,231 in the province of Osorno. 79 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:57,869 If Bariloche is here, we have Osorno right here 80 00:03:57,972 --> 00:03:59,771 in Chile, the distance here 81 00:03:59,873 --> 00:04:03,041 is a mere 150 miles. 82 00:04:03,143 --> 00:04:06,211 People are running scared, 83 00:04:06,313 --> 00:04:08,113 where are they going to go? 84 00:04:08,215 --> 00:04:11,550 The most logical area is Osorno. 85 00:04:11,652 --> 00:04:14,720 - Every time we've looked at these German communities 86 00:04:14,822 --> 00:04:19,424 and followed these leads, there has been some sort of 87 00:04:19,526 --> 00:04:22,227 Nazi clandestine infrastructure, 88 00:04:22,329 --> 00:04:24,809 and I'm willing to bet we find something. 89 00:04:38,545 --> 00:04:39,978 In Osorno, Chile, 90 00:04:40,114 --> 00:04:42,514 U.S. Army Special Forces, Tim Kennedy, 91 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:45,150 and investigative journalist, Gerrard Williams, 92 00:04:45,252 --> 00:04:48,620 are joined by their translator, America. 93 00:04:48,722 --> 00:04:50,322 - You can take point, America. 94 00:04:52,192 --> 00:04:54,459 They arrive at the home of Ruben Ramirez, 95 00:04:54,561 --> 00:04:57,262 a historian and lifetime resident of Osorno... 96 00:04:57,364 --> 00:04:59,009 - You ready? - Yeah. 97 00:04:59,033 --> 00:05:00,799 Who has spent his career studying 98 00:05:00,901 --> 00:05:04,036 Nazi activities in the area. 99 00:05:04,138 --> 00:05:06,338 - Thanks for taking the time to meet with us. 100 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,941 We're interested in... 101 00:05:10,044 --> 00:05:12,144 Nazis that came to this area. 102 00:05:12,246 --> 00:05:14,813 We have information that lots came here, 103 00:05:14,915 --> 00:05:18,050 and we're trying to find a few very specific ones. 104 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:25,891 - They were welcomed by the government here. 105 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:31,875 - The Germans who were established here before 106 00:05:31,899 --> 00:05:35,000 helped each other, so when those Nazis arrived, 107 00:05:35,102 --> 00:05:39,037 they helped them get key positions in the government 108 00:05:39,139 --> 00:05:41,573 and working places. 109 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:45,844 - Were there any senior Nazis who came here after the war? 110 00:05:45,946 --> 00:05:50,482 We're talking S.S. Generals, senior party officials. 111 00:05:50,584 --> 00:05:52,417 - Sí, señor. 112 00:05:55,122 --> 00:05:56,188 - Does he have names? 113 00:06:00,127 --> 00:06:01,893 - Juan Keller... 114 00:06:01,995 --> 00:06:05,197 - Legally, he was known as Juan Keller. 115 00:06:05,299 --> 00:06:08,400 - Juan Keller? - That was his legal name here. 116 00:06:08,502 --> 00:06:12,204 But it is said he was a higher position of Nazi. 117 00:06:12,306 --> 00:06:15,073 He was a person who lived in the shadows. 118 00:06:15,175 --> 00:06:17,087 - Having an alias, a false name, 119 00:06:17,111 --> 00:06:21,346 is distinctly part of a Nazi's book of tricks. 120 00:06:21,448 --> 00:06:22,848 You have to keep a low profile 121 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:24,260 when you're one of the most wanted 122 00:06:24,284 --> 00:06:25,484 war criminals in the world. 123 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:27,686 Did he meet this man, himself? 124 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:29,254 - Sí. 125 00:06:29,356 --> 00:06:31,790 - He was just a kid when he saw him the first time. 126 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:35,293 He was riding a horse, he had a huge leather jacket, 127 00:06:35,396 --> 00:06:38,764 boots, and he could see the bump of a gun 128 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:40,065 sticking out of his back. 129 00:06:40,167 --> 00:06:41,933 - Was it normal in those days for people 130 00:06:42,035 --> 00:06:43,535 to carry guns around here? 131 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:47,038 - No it was not normal, only people of power, 132 00:06:47,141 --> 00:06:48,940 people who had a lot of money, 133 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:52,911 would go around with guns. 134 00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:54,791 - Will you tell us everything that you know 135 00:06:54,815 --> 00:06:57,315 about what Juan Keller was doing here? 136 00:07:03,857 --> 00:07:06,758 - There were people with guns guarding the perimeter. 137 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:08,794 - Armed guards? - Exactly. 138 00:07:11,832 --> 00:07:13,965 People were really scared to see him, 139 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:18,170 because there were a lot of deaths happening around him. 140 00:07:27,347 --> 00:07:31,450 - So these guys said that Juan Keller had been born here. 141 00:07:31,552 --> 00:07:34,186 Saying, "we've known him since he was a lad." 142 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:40,692 - They were both murdered? 143 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:49,468 - There's something strange going on here. 144 00:07:49,570 --> 00:07:52,938 - We have people dying around Juan Keller, being murdered, 145 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,273 disappearing... they're not coincidences, 146 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:57,809 those are specific, strategic choices. 147 00:07:57,911 --> 00:08:02,314 He's getting rid of witnesses, and he's killing threats. 148 00:08:02,416 --> 00:08:05,851 - But... so this is, what, in the 1950s? 149 00:08:05,953 --> 00:08:07,285 - Yes. 150 00:08:07,387 --> 00:08:09,821 - Which puts him snap in the timeline here. 151 00:08:09,923 --> 00:08:12,524 It's very suspicious that a high-ranking Nazi 152 00:08:12,626 --> 00:08:16,127 turns up, he's able to buy three large tracts of land 153 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:17,963 and armed guards. 154 00:08:18,065 --> 00:08:20,732 I'd never heard of Juan Keller. 155 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,834 He must be very, very important. 156 00:08:22,936 --> 00:08:25,036 - Who is Juan Keller? 157 00:08:25,138 --> 00:08:27,739 Do you know his name during the war? 158 00:08:32,179 --> 00:08:34,479 - That's the Million Dollar Question. 159 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:38,650 - Is there anyone else that we can talk to 160 00:08:38,752 --> 00:08:41,253 to get more information about Juan Keller? 161 00:08:43,257 --> 00:08:44,823 - Just... 162 00:08:44,925 --> 00:08:47,492 Just the daughter who lives in Osorno. 163 00:08:47,594 --> 00:08:51,596 - She's still alive? - Sí. 164 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:54,666 - Her name is Eliana Keller. 165 00:08:54,768 --> 00:08:56,167 - How do we find her? 166 00:08:59,606 --> 00:09:01,006 - We have to talk to her. 167 00:09:01,108 --> 00:09:03,408 That is a relative that is still alive 168 00:09:03,510 --> 00:09:04,621 and living in this area. 169 00:09:04,645 --> 00:09:06,077 - Let's go find the woman. 170 00:09:06,179 --> 00:09:07,312 - Appreciate your time. 171 00:09:07,414 --> 00:09:09,781 - If we can track down Eliana Keller, 172 00:09:09,883 --> 00:09:11,694 she could have information about 173 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:13,485 the Nazi network infrastructure 174 00:09:13,587 --> 00:09:15,787 that was here in Osorno, Chile. 175 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:18,009 We could blow this investigation wide open. 176 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:25,363 - Let's take a look at what we have in Osorno. 177 00:09:25,465 --> 00:09:27,933 We have a local eye witness, 178 00:09:28,035 --> 00:09:29,901 who's telling us for the first time 179 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:33,371 about a man by the name of Juan Keller. 180 00:09:33,473 --> 00:09:35,373 Bob and John review the findings 181 00:09:35,475 --> 00:09:38,410 from Osorno, Chile, where the team is in search of evidence 182 00:09:38,512 --> 00:09:40,456 that Hitler could have moved to this area 183 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,047 after fleeing Argentina. 184 00:09:42,149 --> 00:09:44,549 They have uncovered a potential high-ranking Nazi 185 00:09:44,651 --> 00:09:47,919 living in Osorno under the alias, Juan Keller. 186 00:09:48,021 --> 00:09:49,832 - I mean, John, from the description of this guy, 187 00:09:49,856 --> 00:09:51,723 it looks like he's on the run. 188 00:09:51,825 --> 00:09:55,560 He's carrying a weapon, he's German, very intimidating, 189 00:09:55,662 --> 00:09:57,540 and if he's living under a pseudonym, 190 00:09:57,564 --> 00:09:59,042 he's got to be fairly important. 191 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:02,067 I mean, a low-level Nazi is not going to 192 00:10:02,169 --> 00:10:05,937 take all this effort to hide his identity 193 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:07,183 and kill the witnesses. 194 00:10:07,207 --> 00:10:08,907 - Agreed... and then we have 195 00:10:09,009 --> 00:10:12,077 his daughter, Eliana Keller, 196 00:10:12,179 --> 00:10:14,412 she's alive, she's still in the area, 197 00:10:14,514 --> 00:10:17,415 and she is a potential source of information 198 00:10:17,517 --> 00:10:20,485 surrounding the true identity of Juan Keller. 199 00:10:20,587 --> 00:10:22,654 - Mm-hmm. 200 00:10:22,756 --> 00:10:26,091 - This is interesting, it's an adoption certification. 201 00:10:26,193 --> 00:10:28,827 It's showing her, Eliana Keller, 202 00:10:28,929 --> 00:10:31,596 being born 1954 203 00:10:31,698 --> 00:10:35,467 and it identifies the adopting father 204 00:10:35,569 --> 00:10:38,203 as Juan Keller. 205 00:10:38,305 --> 00:10:41,272 If he is established as a Chilean National, 206 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:44,009 he has a daughter who is a Chilean National, 207 00:10:44,111 --> 00:10:47,679 and at some point in the future, there's an extradition request. 208 00:10:47,781 --> 00:10:50,281 It would throw a serious curveball 209 00:10:50,384 --> 00:10:53,785 into the extradition process altogether. 210 00:10:53,887 --> 00:10:56,321 - If he was pretending to be Chilean, 211 00:10:56,423 --> 00:10:59,057 and had a Chilean child by adoption, 212 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:01,237 it would offer him a certain amount of protection. 213 00:11:01,261 --> 00:11:02,627 - Who is Juan Keller? 214 00:11:02,729 --> 00:11:04,529 We need to find out. - Yep. 215 00:11:04,631 --> 00:11:08,233 - Juan Keller, Worldwide, Chile... 216 00:11:11,271 --> 00:11:12,404 What do we got, Bob? 217 00:11:12,506 --> 00:11:16,508 - FBI, December 19th, 1945. 218 00:11:16,610 --> 00:11:19,477 "Martin Bormann, well known Nazi war criminal, 219 00:11:19,579 --> 00:11:22,080 "was traveling in Latin America 220 00:11:22,182 --> 00:11:26,985 under the name of Keller." 221 00:11:27,087 --> 00:11:28,898 Can you believe that? Keller. 222 00:11:28,922 --> 00:11:31,990 - Juan Keller's potential 223 00:11:32,092 --> 00:11:34,759 real identity is Martin Bormann. 224 00:11:34,861 --> 00:11:38,063 - It's a huge, blazing lead. 225 00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:40,832 It's absolutely crucial we get to Eliana Keller. 226 00:11:40,934 --> 00:11:43,702 Talk about a firsthand witness, the daughter is it. 227 00:11:43,804 --> 00:11:46,004 And Bormann was Hitler's right hand man. 228 00:11:46,106 --> 00:11:49,507 He's the natural person to follow to lead us to Hitler. 229 00:11:49,609 --> 00:11:52,043 So, finding somebody like this is key. 230 00:11:52,145 --> 00:11:55,880 - The team needs to locate Eliana Keller. 231 00:11:55,982 --> 00:11:57,782 Fortunately, we have a lead. 232 00:11:57,884 --> 00:12:00,752 One of her relatives, Gabriella Asenco. 233 00:12:00,854 --> 00:12:02,532 If she's willing to cooperate, 234 00:12:02,556 --> 00:12:04,967 perhaps that'll take us to Eliana. 235 00:12:04,991 --> 00:12:06,031 - Yep. Let's do it. 236 00:12:18,138 --> 00:12:19,738 - Well, we're here. 237 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,285 - Let's see if we can pinpoint which house it is. 238 00:12:22,309 --> 00:12:24,042 In Osorno, Chile, 239 00:12:24,144 --> 00:12:25,988 Tim Kennedy and Gerrard Williams, 240 00:12:26,012 --> 00:12:28,212 with the help of their translator, America, 241 00:12:28,281 --> 00:12:30,361 arrive at the home of Gabriela Osenco, 242 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:32,784 a reported relative of Eliana Keller. 243 00:12:34,955 --> 00:12:36,933 - Hopefully, we don't scare her off. 244 00:12:36,957 --> 00:12:38,523 Both of us are intimidating. 245 00:12:38,625 --> 00:12:41,626 Maybe you two walk up and I'll... - You can come join us. 246 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:49,601 Gabriela Osenco is essential to this investigation. 247 00:12:49,703 --> 00:12:51,347 She's the woman we hope will lead us 248 00:12:51,371 --> 00:12:52,704 to Martin Bormann's daughter. 249 00:12:52,806 --> 00:12:56,207 If it is Martin Bormann, we need this person. 250 00:13:03,316 --> 00:13:04,749 - Señora Osenco. 251 00:13:04,851 --> 00:13:06,451 - Hola. - Hola. 252 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,464 - Señora, we've been given your name by a man called 253 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:12,490 Ruben Ramirez because we are looking for a lady called 254 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:14,704 Eliana Keller. Can you help us? 255 00:13:14,728 --> 00:13:16,339 Do you know were she is? - No. 256 00:13:16,363 --> 00:13:18,763 - So you're not related to Eliana? 257 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:25,770 - She was married to her brother. 258 00:13:25,872 --> 00:13:27,817 - And she has had no contact with her since? 259 00:13:27,841 --> 00:13:29,908 - No. - Okay. 260 00:13:32,112 --> 00:13:33,778 This is my colleague, Tim. 261 00:13:35,916 --> 00:13:37,836 - Her brother, is he still alive? 262 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:42,198 - In the cemetery. - He's in the cemetery. 263 00:13:42,222 --> 00:13:44,255 - Okay. - Um... 264 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:45,735 - Do you know anyone that could 265 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:48,171 get a hold of Eliana Keller for us? 266 00:13:48,195 --> 00:13:50,428 - No. 267 00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:52,864 - Um... - Did you know a Juan Keller? 268 00:13:58,705 --> 00:14:00,538 - Eliana's father? 269 00:14:02,976 --> 00:14:06,611 - How long did Juan Keller live in Osorno? 270 00:14:10,717 --> 00:14:12,295 - No, she doesn't know. - Doesn't know. 271 00:14:12,319 --> 00:14:13,952 We'd like to stay in touch, 272 00:14:14,054 --> 00:14:17,188 and if she can find any information at all about Eliana, 273 00:14:17,290 --> 00:14:18,823 we would be very grateful. 274 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:30,468 - I mean... hey, I have one more question. 275 00:14:30,570 --> 00:14:32,882 Juan Keller, was he a good guy? 276 00:14:32,906 --> 00:14:34,172 Was he a nice guy? 277 00:14:34,274 --> 00:14:37,075 Did the people around him like him? 278 00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:43,815 - There's a rumor that Juan Keller is Martin Bormann. 279 00:14:43,917 --> 00:14:45,483 Is that true? 280 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:55,560 - Unbelievable. 281 00:14:55,662 --> 00:14:59,664 If you have Martin Bormann, you have Adolf Hitler. 282 00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:03,768 I realize it's sensitive, but we have to talk to her. 283 00:15:10,677 --> 00:15:11,943 - She's going to find out, 284 00:15:12,045 --> 00:15:13,522 and when she has the exact address, 285 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:14,779 she will give you a call. 286 00:15:14,881 --> 00:15:16,292 - Muchas gracias. Thank you so much. 287 00:15:16,316 --> 00:15:17,493 - We'll be expecting your call. 288 00:15:17,517 --> 00:15:18,594 Thank you. 289 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:20,051 We are so close right now 290 00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:21,953 to finding Eliana Keller. 291 00:15:22,055 --> 00:15:25,423 Eliana Keller could be the key to this entire investigation. 292 00:15:25,525 --> 00:15:27,670 If we can talk to Martin Bormann's daughter, 293 00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:30,194 we might find more evidence than ever 294 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:34,299 of what Adolf Hitler did after he left the bunker in 1945. 295 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:41,839 - The team needs to keep investigating in Chile. 296 00:15:41,942 --> 00:15:44,208 - It's clear we have to talk to Eliana. 297 00:15:44,311 --> 00:15:46,811 While the field team continues to dig in Chile, 298 00:15:46,913 --> 00:15:49,480 Bob and John discuss opening another leg 299 00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:51,849 of their investigation into where Hitler 300 00:15:51,952 --> 00:15:55,486 could've gone if he was forced to flee Argentina in 1955, 301 00:15:55,588 --> 00:15:57,922 after Peron fell from power. 302 00:15:58,024 --> 00:16:00,692 - In Argentina, we have two 303 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:03,161 potential locations for Hitler: 304 00:16:03,263 --> 00:16:07,699 Bariloche, Inalco house. 305 00:16:07,801 --> 00:16:09,500 And you've got Misiones. 306 00:16:09,602 --> 00:16:11,602 The Nazi compound. 307 00:16:11,705 --> 00:16:16,207 We've now examined the possibility that under duress, 308 00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:20,111 Nazis could have run across the border from Bariloche to Chile. 309 00:16:20,213 --> 00:16:23,348 If you're fleeing Misiones, you're not gonna be going 310 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:25,850 all the way across Argentina to Bariloche 311 00:16:25,952 --> 00:16:27,797 and then to Chile, it's too far. 312 00:16:27,821 --> 00:16:31,089 Misiones is right on the border of Paraguay. 313 00:16:31,191 --> 00:16:33,091 So what happened to these guys? 314 00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:38,229 - The first Nazi party that was organized outside of Germany 315 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:42,734 was in the late 1920s, and it was in Paraguay. 316 00:16:42,836 --> 00:16:45,603 If Argentina was to become compromised, 317 00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:49,240 it would make sense to have two plan Bs: 318 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:51,376 Chile and Paraguay. 319 00:16:51,478 --> 00:16:55,813 Misiones, which is just a few miles south of Paraguay, 320 00:16:55,915 --> 00:16:57,882 there's the other plan B. 321 00:16:57,984 --> 00:17:00,418 - Paraguay sided with Nazi Germany. 322 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,053 They protected 'em. 323 00:17:02,155 --> 00:17:04,722 If you're in Misiones, had to get out quick, 324 00:17:04,824 --> 00:17:08,559 Peron falls, cross the piranha river, you're safe. 325 00:17:08,661 --> 00:17:10,473 What kind of facilities do you get in Paraguay? 326 00:17:10,497 --> 00:17:12,096 What do we have there? 327 00:17:12,198 --> 00:17:16,234 - Okay, let's take a look at Paraguay and Nazis... 328 00:17:18,571 --> 00:17:23,107 - Look, here we go, this is a secret document declassified. 329 00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:25,309 CIA. 330 00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:27,745 March, 1965. 331 00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:30,415 "Bormann is in Paraguay. 332 00:17:30,517 --> 00:17:32,617 "Bormann, guarded by four men 333 00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:34,452 "equipped with walkie-talkies, 334 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:36,587 has four different hideouts." 335 00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,792 - I see this as significant. - Yeah. 336 00:17:40,894 --> 00:17:43,828 - So as the team keeps digging into Chile, 337 00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:47,298 we need to send another team to Paraguay. 338 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,634 - Yeah, Asunción, the capital of Paraguay. 339 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,169 Let's start right there. 340 00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:53,337 Asunción is close to Misiones. 341 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,972 If there are any documents, 342 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:57,675 if there are any facilities, they would be there. 343 00:17:57,777 --> 00:17:59,522 - I think we need to get Mike Simpson. 344 00:17:59,546 --> 00:18:01,891 He did a great job for us in Spain 345 00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,649 and in Morocco and I think we should have Graeme Wood. 346 00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:05,991 He's a Bormann expert. 347 00:18:12,892 --> 00:18:15,626 - If there's any evidence relative to Martin Bormann 348 00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:18,207 in Paraguay, Graeme Wood is our man. 349 00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:21,966 Let's get them on mission; let's get them into Paraguay. 350 00:18:22,068 --> 00:18:23,068 - I agree. 351 00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:43,354 - Did any big name Nazis come into Paraguay? 352 00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:45,056 That's what I want to know. 353 00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:47,992 U.S. Army recon expert Mike Simpson, 354 00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:50,139 investigative journalist Graeme Wood, 355 00:18:50,163 --> 00:18:52,663 and their translator, Jorge, are in search of evidence 356 00:18:52,765 --> 00:18:55,533 that Hitler could have fled to Paraguay. 357 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,869 - When you're trying to investigate something 358 00:18:57,971 --> 00:19:00,015 that lot of people don't want you to know about, 359 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:02,773 it's very difficult to weed out the truth from the fiction. 360 00:19:02,876 --> 00:19:05,020 As a journalist, it's my job to check out 361 00:19:05,044 --> 00:19:08,179 every little loose thread to see if it leads somewhere. 362 00:19:08,281 --> 00:19:09,914 - Dr. Fernandez. 363 00:19:10,016 --> 00:19:11,482 They make contact with former 364 00:19:11,584 --> 00:19:14,285 Supreme Court Justice, Dr. Jose Fernandez, 365 00:19:14,387 --> 00:19:16,587 who has agreed to grant the team access 366 00:19:16,689 --> 00:19:18,434 to classified government documents 367 00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:21,259 concerning Nazis on the run in Paraguay. 368 00:19:28,868 --> 00:19:31,969 - The government at the time had a very close connection 369 00:19:32,071 --> 00:19:33,938 to the German Nazis. 370 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,275 That's all thoroughly documented, and there's still 371 00:19:37,377 --> 00:19:39,857 a lot more to go through, because the file 372 00:19:39,913 --> 00:19:42,091 is just so huge, that requires more time 373 00:19:42,115 --> 00:19:43,648 to be examined thoroughly. 374 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:45,861 - The opening up of the Paraguayan archives 375 00:19:45,885 --> 00:19:48,786 is a really big event, because there was a huge amount 376 00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:51,289 of material that the regime had gathered 377 00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:53,691 about Nazis who were living in Paraguay. 378 00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:56,794 These are documents that were kept secret. 379 00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:58,329 - Do we have any information 380 00:19:58,431 --> 00:20:02,800 from these files about Nazis escaping their war crimes 381 00:20:02,902 --> 00:20:03,902 here in Paraguay? 382 00:20:11,578 --> 00:20:13,678 - This is huge. 383 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:15,713 Right here, look at this sub paragraph. 384 00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,815 It starts off, "Martin Bormann, number one," 385 00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:19,016 all in caps. 386 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:20,484 So he knew this was important, 387 00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:21,597 this was an important find 388 00:20:21,621 --> 00:20:23,154 that he's reporting to his boss. 389 00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:25,690 "Martin Bormann, Chief of the Nazi Party, 390 00:20:25,792 --> 00:20:30,094 came to Paraguay and lived here for some time." 391 00:20:30,196 --> 00:20:32,830 According to this, "Bormann eventually succumbed 392 00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:36,167 to his illness, stomach cancer, and he was buried 393 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:40,504 on the night of the 17th of February, 1959, 394 00:20:40,607 --> 00:20:44,208 in the cemetery in Ita, near Asunción." 395 00:20:45,278 --> 00:20:46,855 - This is huge. - Mm-hmm. 396 00:20:46,879 --> 00:20:48,757 - We're talking about information that people 397 00:20:48,781 --> 00:20:50,848 in many continents would want to know. 398 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:53,195 And what's so tantalizing about this report, 399 00:20:53,219 --> 00:20:55,331 is these are details that could have been left out 400 00:20:55,355 --> 00:20:59,056 if the informant wanted to, uh, just cook up a story, 401 00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:01,136 but instead, there's some verifiable stuff. 402 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,694 They say where he was buried and we could go there 403 00:21:03,796 --> 00:21:04,873 to find out more about that. 404 00:21:04,897 --> 00:21:06,264 - Yeah. 405 00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:08,032 Earlier in the investigation, 406 00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:10,468 the team discovered that Bormann may not have died 407 00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:12,970 in Germany at the end of World War II. 408 00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:16,107 When his remains were uncovered in Berlin in 1972, 409 00:21:16,209 --> 00:21:18,909 they were covered with a mysterious red clay. 410 00:21:19,012 --> 00:21:21,545 - When people looked at those bones, there was the fact that 411 00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:24,215 the soil attached to the bones, um, 412 00:21:24,317 --> 00:21:27,985 had a kind of red, iron rich clay. 413 00:21:28,087 --> 00:21:30,821 Uh, which is something that you don't find anywhere in Germany 414 00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:37,395 This document that mentions Martin Bormann 415 00:21:37,497 --> 00:21:40,097 has a remarkable level of detail. 416 00:21:40,199 --> 00:21:41,710 Martin Bormann might have survived, 417 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:44,468 lived in Paraguay and been buried here before, 418 00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:47,271 been dug up and then planted back in Berlin. 419 00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:51,776 Which would in itself be an incredible thing to discover. 420 00:21:59,686 --> 00:22:01,519 - And you have their contact information? 421 00:22:03,089 --> 00:22:06,524 - History says that Bormann died in Berlin in 1945. 422 00:22:06,626 --> 00:22:09,927 If we can develop any proof at all that Bormann died 423 00:22:10,029 --> 00:22:12,129 and was buried in South America, 424 00:22:12,231 --> 00:22:15,032 then Hitler being alive and also being in South America 425 00:22:15,134 --> 00:22:17,201 becomes even more likely. 426 00:22:17,303 --> 00:22:19,423 Everything is now different at this point. 427 00:22:26,412 --> 00:22:27,678 - This is the neighborhood. 428 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:29,213 In Ita, Paraguay, 429 00:22:29,315 --> 00:22:31,816 Mike Simpson and his translator, Jorge, 430 00:22:31,918 --> 00:22:33,762 are in search of evidence that Hitler could have 431 00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:35,486 fled to this area. 432 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:38,055 They are following a confidential Paraguayan file 433 00:22:38,157 --> 00:22:40,691 that claims that this area was the final resting place 434 00:22:40,793 --> 00:22:43,594 for Martin Bormann, 15 years after 435 00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:45,307 he was believed to have died at the end of 436 00:22:45,331 --> 00:22:47,064 World War II in Berlin. 437 00:22:58,678 --> 00:23:01,345 They make contact with a local woman, 438 00:23:01,447 --> 00:23:03,292 who was reported to have information 439 00:23:03,316 --> 00:23:05,416 regarding Bormann's burial. 440 00:23:05,518 --> 00:23:06,528 - She says it's okay, we can just, um... 441 00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:08,219 - Sí, sí. 442 00:23:08,321 --> 00:23:09,998 - History as it's written has always told us 443 00:23:10,022 --> 00:23:12,223 that Martin Bormann died in Berlin. 444 00:23:12,325 --> 00:23:15,893 If we prove that Martin Bormann was buried here in 1959, 445 00:23:15,962 --> 00:23:18,596 then this is ground zero for the investigation 446 00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:23,200 to go forward to prove that Adolf Hitler was also here. 447 00:23:23,302 --> 00:23:25,180 I was told that you have information 448 00:23:25,204 --> 00:23:29,640 pertaining to the burial of Martin Bormann here in Paraguay. 449 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:50,739 You went with your father that night 450 00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:52,875 and you witnessed all of this first hand. 451 00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:54,598 - Sí, sí, sí. 452 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:55,700 - Sí. 453 00:23:55,802 --> 00:23:57,168 - Did they say specifically, 454 00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:59,750 "this is the body of Martin Bormann"? 455 00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:10,181 - Do you remember the location of the grave? 456 00:24:10,283 --> 00:24:12,194 If we were to take you to that cemetery, 457 00:24:12,218 --> 00:24:14,698 could you find that location again? 458 00:24:37,777 --> 00:24:40,177 - And he lives in this area? 459 00:24:41,747 --> 00:24:43,091 - We're gonna need to talk to him. 460 00:24:43,115 --> 00:24:44,560 - Okay. - Gracias. 461 00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:45,816 - Bueno. 462 00:24:45,918 --> 00:24:48,352 - Eye-witness reports give you a depth 463 00:24:48,454 --> 00:24:50,654 that archival data cannot match. 464 00:24:50,756 --> 00:24:53,157 Having an eye witness, someone who was actually there, 465 00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:56,427 standing at the grave site when Martin Bormann was buried... 466 00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:58,662 This is huge. 467 00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:00,364 We need to talk to this guy. 468 00:25:00,466 --> 00:25:02,933 Mike joins up with Graeme Wood. 469 00:25:03,035 --> 00:25:05,870 They head for the reported location of an eye witness... 470 00:25:05,972 --> 00:25:08,105 - That looks like the one, right there. 471 00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:09,874 Who could potentially point them 472 00:25:09,976 --> 00:25:12,376 to the precise site where Bormann was buried. 473 00:25:12,478 --> 00:25:14,278 - It's the place. 474 00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:22,364 - Mucho gusto. 475 00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:24,121 - I was told that you have information 476 00:25:24,223 --> 00:25:27,992 about where Martin Bormann was buried, here in Paraguay. 477 00:25:39,472 --> 00:25:41,005 - I know you're a busy man. 478 00:25:41,107 --> 00:25:44,608 Could you show us right now where that grave is? 479 00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:47,190 - No problem. Vamos. 480 00:25:49,549 --> 00:25:51,293 - At every point in our investigation, 481 00:25:51,317 --> 00:25:53,295 we found Bormann and Hitler coming up 482 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,920 in all the same locations in the right time frame. 483 00:25:56,022 --> 00:25:57,766 If we can find any evidence at all 484 00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,424 that Martin Bormann was laid to rest in this grave, 485 00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:03,060 then the next question is, what about Hitler? 486 00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:05,362 Did he end up in Paraguay also? 487 00:26:26,152 --> 00:26:27,318 - So this is it? 488 00:26:30,323 --> 00:26:31,822 - That's right. 489 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,669 - How did you happen to get the information? 490 00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:36,013 Is this something that you saw for yourself? 491 00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:50,886 - He was working for the priest at the time, 492 00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:54,111 so he had to be there the day after he was buried. 493 00:26:54,213 --> 00:26:56,224 - When was the first time that people 494 00:26:56,248 --> 00:27:00,818 began to whisper about the true nature of this grave? 495 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,987 - The day after he was supposedly buried here, 496 00:27:03,089 --> 00:27:04,188 people started talking. 497 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:06,690 They were saying that some warlord 498 00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,192 uh, was brought here from Ascension. 499 00:27:08,294 --> 00:27:09,793 That's what the people were saying. 500 00:27:09,895 --> 00:27:12,296 And then he tried to confirm it and asked the priest later 501 00:27:12,398 --> 00:27:14,531 that was what happened, and the priest kind of, like, 502 00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:17,101 just said that Martin Bormann was buried here. 503 00:27:17,203 --> 00:27:19,114 - The priest said that Martin Bormann 504 00:27:19,138 --> 00:27:20,378 was buried in this grave? 505 00:27:21,741 --> 00:27:23,741 - What was the name of this priest? 506 00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:28,345 - And what can you tell me about Asencio Ayala? 507 00:27:28,447 --> 00:27:30,981 - This priest was not only a very important member 508 00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:33,061 of the community, but also really well connected 509 00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:34,284 with powerful people. 510 00:27:34,387 --> 00:27:35,786 He worked for the army. 511 00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:39,023 - He was a Chaplain? - Yeah, Chaplain, yeah. 512 00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:42,459 - This priest would have had direct ties to the capital, 513 00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:43,805 to the military power structure, 514 00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:45,896 and to the president of Paraguay. 515 00:27:45,998 --> 00:27:48,210 That tells me this goes to the highest levels, 516 00:27:48,234 --> 00:27:49,645 and I think they still had things 517 00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:50,968 that they wanted to hide. 518 00:27:51,070 --> 00:27:54,038 Who else was here, who else was alive? 519 00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:56,206 Let me widen this for the auger a little bit. 520 00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,208 Mike and Graeme are granted access 521 00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:00,744 to investigate the grave site that is reported 522 00:28:00,846 --> 00:28:03,147 to have housed Martin Bormann's remains. 523 00:28:03,249 --> 00:28:05,582 - I see some good, soft earth here. 524 00:28:05,685 --> 00:28:07,217 - Soft is good. 525 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,821 We're starting to see red earth, that iron rich soil. 526 00:28:10,923 --> 00:28:13,691 - The reports of the skull exhumed in Berlin 527 00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:15,859 that was DNA matched to Bormann 528 00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:18,328 had this red clay on it. 529 00:28:18,431 --> 00:28:20,898 And we're clearly seeing a red clay 530 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,034 that at least visually looks very similar, 531 00:28:24,136 --> 00:28:27,504 and not native to Germany, not native to Berlin. 532 00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:39,750 - For this being a small town, 533 00:28:39,852 --> 00:28:41,830 she was a difficult woman to get a hold of. 534 00:28:41,854 --> 00:28:42,753 - Yeah. 535 00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:44,254 Maybe she's a private person 536 00:28:44,356 --> 00:28:46,423 who doesn't want to talk about the possibility 537 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:48,125 that Martin Bormann was Juan Keller. 538 00:28:48,227 --> 00:28:50,294 In Osorno, Chile, 539 00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:54,131 Tim Kennedy, Gerrard Williams, and their translator, America, 540 00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:56,211 arrive at the home of Eliana Keller, 541 00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,335 the adopted daughter of Juan Keller, 542 00:28:58,437 --> 00:29:01,438 which according to declassified FBI documents, 543 00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:04,108 is the alias used by Martin Bormann 544 00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:07,845 when he moved from Argentina to Chile. 545 00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:10,881 - Doing an interview like this, we're re-writing 546 00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:13,951 what people think that they know about what happened 547 00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:16,353 to the leaders of the Third Reich. 548 00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:18,889 Eliana Keller, the daughter of Juan Keller, 549 00:29:18,991 --> 00:29:21,525 potentially could be the daughter of Martin Bormann, 550 00:29:21,627 --> 00:29:23,994 the second command of the Third Reich. 551 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,363 If Bormann was here in the open, 552 00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:30,400 how close could Adolf Hitler have been? 553 00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:34,304 There's a lot of very, very sensitive issues here, 554 00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:38,208 but we know what we need and we have to get it. 555 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:41,078 - Eliana Keller? Señora Keller? 556 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:42,591 - Sí. - Sí? 557 00:29:42,615 --> 00:29:43,514 - Sí? - Muchas gracias. 558 00:29:43,616 --> 00:29:45,149 - Vamos. 559 00:29:49,188 --> 00:29:50,654 - Thank you for seeing us. 560 00:29:53,092 --> 00:29:55,726 - Eliana we've heard, um, 561 00:29:55,828 --> 00:29:58,495 many tales about, um, 562 00:29:58,597 --> 00:30:02,199 your family and we'd like to hear your story. 563 00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,381 Are you Juan Keller's natural daughter? 564 00:30:08,774 --> 00:30:12,442 - It was an agreement with Juan Keller's housekeeper. 565 00:30:14,713 --> 00:30:16,046 - Oh, okay, okay. 566 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,848 - She was adopted at two months. 567 00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:19,928 And... - Oh a baby, a complete baby. 568 00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:22,052 - Yes, and at five years old, 569 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:25,355 she started going to the German school. 570 00:30:25,457 --> 00:30:27,224 - Was your father a German? 571 00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:40,282 - What did you father do for work? 572 00:30:40,306 --> 00:30:44,374 What was his main occupation, and how many people 573 00:30:44,476 --> 00:30:47,477 did he usually have working with him or for him? 574 00:30:55,087 --> 00:30:57,788 - It wasn't only the land he had in Las Trancas, 575 00:30:57,890 --> 00:31:01,225 he had two other places, and they worked there, too. 576 00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:04,127 - So he was wealthy, he had lots of money? 577 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,300 - Yeah, of course he was. 578 00:31:10,402 --> 00:31:13,570 - How old were you the last time 579 00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:15,839 you saw Juan Keller? 580 00:31:25,918 --> 00:31:28,585 - Never saw him again. 581 00:31:28,687 --> 00:31:31,321 - After your father left when you were 13, 582 00:31:31,423 --> 00:31:34,691 the story started coming out that your father, Juan Keller, 583 00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:36,033 was Martin Bormann. 584 00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:37,939 Do you think that that is true? 585 00:31:37,963 --> 00:31:39,574 And that the man that is Juan Keller 586 00:31:39,598 --> 00:31:44,201 was in fact the fugitive from World War II? 587 00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:49,050 - He left and three months later, 588 00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:53,977 she started getting journalists trying to talk to her. 589 00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,213 - Why do you think your father left? 590 00:32:12,231 --> 00:32:14,831 - So we have a man who speaks German at home, 591 00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:17,534 is very, very wealthy, who suddenly runs 592 00:32:17,636 --> 00:32:20,037 when Eichmann is taken... 593 00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:22,072 is it Martin Bormann? 594 00:32:23,776 --> 00:32:26,256 - Does this look like your father? 595 00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:40,490 - We're finding out new things every day here in Chile. 596 00:32:40,592 --> 00:32:43,160 There has to be far more to discover, 597 00:32:43,262 --> 00:32:46,063 far more that's been hidden about exactly what happened. 598 00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:48,999 Because if Bormann's here, Hitler's not very far away. 599 00:32:49,101 --> 00:32:51,702 - After your father left, 600 00:32:51,804 --> 00:32:54,284 did anyone ever come looking for him? 601 00:32:56,942 --> 00:32:59,876 - So one day, four men came to her house 602 00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:04,348 and they said they came from Colonia Dignidad 603 00:33:04,450 --> 00:33:07,551 and they wanted to know if she was the daughter 604 00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:08,952 of Martin Bormann. 605 00:33:09,054 --> 00:33:12,689 - Colonia Dignidad. 606 00:33:12,791 --> 00:33:15,031 - As a journalist, I remember some of this story 607 00:33:15,127 --> 00:33:19,196 about a place called Colonia Dignidad here in Chile. 608 00:33:19,298 --> 00:33:20,764 A large German community. 609 00:33:20,866 --> 00:33:22,777 There were rumors they were involved in murders 610 00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:24,234 and disappearances. 611 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:27,404 So why is this a link to Martin Bormann? 612 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,986 - What do you think the men were there for? 613 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:37,280 - She thinks they were the same kind of people. 614 00:33:41,387 --> 00:33:43,131 - We have to dig into Colonia Dignidad. 615 00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:44,766 - Yeah. Definitely, definitely. 616 00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:46,001 Is there some sort of connection between 617 00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:47,624 Nazis and Colonia Dignidad? 618 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,861 What I do know is it's got a deep and dark history 619 00:33:50,963 --> 00:33:53,463 and needs a visit. 620 00:33:58,804 --> 00:34:01,204 - So we've got a team in Paraguay 621 00:34:01,306 --> 00:34:03,840 and we've got in team in Chile. 622 00:34:03,942 --> 00:34:05,842 So what's happening in Chile? 623 00:34:05,944 --> 00:34:07,677 Bob and John focus on the Chilean leg 624 00:34:07,780 --> 00:34:09,891 of their investigation where they have interviewed 625 00:34:09,915 --> 00:34:12,649 Eliana Keller, the woman who claims she was adopted 626 00:34:12,751 --> 00:34:17,154 by Martin Bormann in 1955 in Osorno, Chile. 627 00:34:17,256 --> 00:34:20,824 - Eliana Keller looks at a photograph of Martin Bormann 628 00:34:20,926 --> 00:34:23,660 and says, "Yes, this is my dad." 629 00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,663 He fled Osorno when she was 13 years old, 630 00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:30,600 trying to escape from war crimes investigators. 631 00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,336 And then people from a community 632 00:34:33,439 --> 00:34:36,907 called Colonia Dignidad came looking for him. 633 00:34:37,009 --> 00:34:41,878 And Eliana describes these people as... like him, Germans. 634 00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:46,616 - Clearly, uh, this is a serious lead. 635 00:34:46,718 --> 00:34:50,053 Something's going on here in Colonia Dignidad. 636 00:34:50,155 --> 00:34:51,955 What do we know about this place? 637 00:34:52,057 --> 00:34:54,624 - It is, uh, a secretive place 638 00:34:54,726 --> 00:34:56,471 in the middle of nowhere in Chile. 639 00:34:56,495 --> 00:35:00,263 It started with this guy right here: Paul Schafer. 640 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,767 Paul Schafer was a Nazi corporal 641 00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:05,635 during World War II. 642 00:35:05,737 --> 00:35:10,640 In 1959, he fled Germany after being accused of sexual abuse. 643 00:35:10,709 --> 00:35:13,944 And in 1961, he surfaced in Chile, 644 00:35:14,046 --> 00:35:16,046 along with 300 German followers, 645 00:35:16,148 --> 00:35:18,193 where they formed a secretive community 646 00:35:18,217 --> 00:35:21,885 in the Andes mountains, know as Colonia Dignidad. 647 00:35:21,987 --> 00:35:26,389 The colony's true intentions are still debated to this day. 648 00:35:26,492 --> 00:35:29,226 - There were rumors of torture 649 00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:32,295 and homicide and sexual abuse. 650 00:35:32,397 --> 00:35:36,299 All sorts of egregious, horrendous crimes. 651 00:35:36,401 --> 00:35:38,468 This is a place that conjures up 652 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:41,972 images of sheer fear 653 00:35:42,074 --> 00:35:45,308 in the faces of Chileans 654 00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:46,643 to this day. 655 00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:49,090 At its height, the community 656 00:35:49,114 --> 00:35:52,082 had 53 square miles 657 00:35:52,184 --> 00:35:55,152 of essentially sovereign territory. 658 00:35:55,254 --> 00:35:58,221 Nobody from the outside was coming in, that's to be sure. 659 00:35:58,290 --> 00:36:01,258 - You have a remote part of Chile, 660 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,628 a German community, run by a Nazi corporal. 661 00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:06,997 And the fact they were in connection with Bormann, 662 00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:08,632 this is huge. 663 00:36:08,734 --> 00:36:10,694 So what do the files have on this? 664 00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:15,005 - Colonia Dignidad. 665 00:36:15,107 --> 00:36:18,041 Here we go. It's a CIA document. 666 00:36:18,143 --> 00:36:21,444 "Colonia Dignidad is a private encampment, 667 00:36:21,547 --> 00:36:24,814 "reportedly run in the fashion of a religious cult. 668 00:36:24,917 --> 00:36:27,317 "Colonia Dignidad has also been accused of 669 00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:28,852 other nefarious activities." 670 00:36:28,954 --> 00:36:30,787 And it goes on to say: 671 00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:34,057 "Elements persist in Chile that would willingly provide 672 00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,494 succor to a fleeing Nazi war criminal." 673 00:36:37,596 --> 00:36:41,131 - You basically have a community 674 00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:45,001 where Germans can go and, within those walls 675 00:36:45,103 --> 00:36:47,671 of that community, remain very secretive. 676 00:36:47,773 --> 00:36:50,507 Where is this place? 677 00:36:50,609 --> 00:36:53,877 - All right, Chile is a long country going all the way up 678 00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:57,147 from Peru down to basically Antarctica. 679 00:36:57,249 --> 00:36:58,882 And here we have Argentina. 680 00:36:58,984 --> 00:37:00,984 Cross over the Andes Mountains, 681 00:37:01,086 --> 00:37:04,221 where Colonia Dignidad once stood. 682 00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:08,058 They've changed their name to the Villa Baviera, 683 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,993 "the Bavarian village." 684 00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:13,430 - Bavaria village? 685 00:37:13,532 --> 00:37:16,399 Inside these cults, the first rule is, 686 00:37:16,501 --> 00:37:17,612 don't talk to outsiders. 687 00:37:17,636 --> 00:37:19,369 It'd be a great place to hide. 688 00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:22,072 But they're not gonna want to talk about their Nazi past 689 00:37:22,174 --> 00:37:24,018 or the cult past, or any part of it. 690 00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:25,920 Let's get Tim and Mike in there, find out what's, 691 00:37:25,944 --> 00:37:27,277 you know, what it is. 692 00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:28,923 - I can't think of two better people 693 00:37:28,947 --> 00:37:31,214 based upon their backgrounds in special forces. 694 00:37:31,316 --> 00:37:34,384 It's not going to be easy, but they can do it 695 00:37:34,486 --> 00:37:37,220 and minimize the attention that's drawn upon them. 696 00:37:37,322 --> 00:37:39,289 - Let's get into Colonia Dignidad. 697 00:37:50,736 --> 00:37:52,302 - Look at this. 698 00:37:52,404 --> 00:37:53,404 You're isolated. 699 00:37:53,472 --> 00:37:55,071 You control the area. 700 00:37:55,173 --> 00:37:57,540 In the remote foothills of the Chilean Andes, 701 00:37:57,643 --> 00:38:00,877 Tim Kennedy and Mike Simpson join forces, 702 00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:02,690 along with their translator, America, 703 00:38:02,714 --> 00:38:05,448 in hopes of gaining entry into Colonia Dignidad, 704 00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:07,450 now known as Villa Baviera. 705 00:38:09,988 --> 00:38:12,228 - Mile marker-wise, we should be getting close. 706 00:38:12,257 --> 00:38:13,668 - This is in the middle of nowhere. 707 00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,425 - Yeah. 708 00:38:15,527 --> 00:38:18,928 - Colonia Dignidad was put here for a reason. 709 00:38:19,031 --> 00:38:20,830 They wanted to be isolated. 710 00:38:20,932 --> 00:38:23,500 Tactically, if you're hiding a high value target, 711 00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:26,603 Colonia Dignidad is flawlessly selected. 712 00:38:26,705 --> 00:38:30,640 It's mile after mile after mile of nothing. 713 00:38:30,742 --> 00:38:32,687 - Should be coming up on our turn. 714 00:38:32,711 --> 00:38:34,244 - Villa Baviera. 715 00:38:34,346 --> 00:38:35,645 This is the name of it right? 716 00:38:35,747 --> 00:38:37,580 - Yeah, pull over right here. 717 00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:42,585 I didn't expect a sign. 718 00:38:42,688 --> 00:38:44,421 "Complejo turistico." 719 00:38:44,523 --> 00:38:46,089 Tourist complex. 720 00:38:46,191 --> 00:38:47,902 - Colonia Dignidad? Where's that at? 721 00:38:47,926 --> 00:38:49,659 - No reference to it, 722 00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:51,372 just Villa Baviera, that's it. 723 00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:53,207 - I mean, I realize that they changed their name, 724 00:38:53,231 --> 00:38:56,099 I just didn't realize that they had changed everything. 725 00:38:57,369 --> 00:38:58,535 - Look at this. 726 00:38:58,637 --> 00:39:00,503 Restaurant, hotel, events. 727 00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:03,606 People get married out there? 728 00:39:03,709 --> 00:39:05,508 This is disturbing, Tim. 729 00:39:05,610 --> 00:39:10,113 We're going into something that, to me, looks like a deception. 730 00:39:10,215 --> 00:39:11,793 - If they get wind of what we're here for? 731 00:39:11,817 --> 00:39:13,350 It's dangerous. 732 00:39:13,452 --> 00:39:17,287 - That makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. 733 00:39:17,389 --> 00:39:18,966 - So how do we want to play this? 734 00:39:18,990 --> 00:39:21,624 - I think if we go in firing off questions, 735 00:39:21,727 --> 00:39:23,037 using the word Nazi, I don't think 736 00:39:23,061 --> 00:39:24,527 that's gonna go well for us. 737 00:39:24,629 --> 00:39:26,708 I don't think this can be field interrogation style, 738 00:39:26,732 --> 00:39:29,199 I think this need to be passive collection style. 739 00:39:29,301 --> 00:39:31,134 They have an agenda. 740 00:39:31,236 --> 00:39:33,670 Let's let them think that we're buying the story 741 00:39:33,772 --> 00:39:35,783 and that we're on board with the agenda. 742 00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:38,208 - Let's see what they show us. 743 00:39:38,343 --> 00:39:40,743 If they're gonna treat this like a tourist attraction, 744 00:39:40,812 --> 00:39:42,679 we have to change our strategy. 745 00:39:42,781 --> 00:39:44,892 So we're gonna go in and we're gonna approach this 746 00:39:44,916 --> 00:39:47,150 like a soft sell interrogation. 747 00:39:47,252 --> 00:39:49,319 This is us letting them say 748 00:39:49,421 --> 00:39:51,488 whatever they want to say. 749 00:39:51,590 --> 00:39:52,889 - Whoa, whoa, whoa! 750 00:39:52,991 --> 00:39:55,592 Look at this. 751 00:39:55,694 --> 00:39:57,127 - Look at the fence change. 752 00:39:57,229 --> 00:39:59,396 - We're seeing this cheap, four strand barbed wire 753 00:39:59,498 --> 00:40:02,065 the whole way, and then all of a sudden that. 754 00:40:02,167 --> 00:40:03,733 Look! 755 00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:05,555 See the rock? - Yeah. 756 00:40:05,604 --> 00:40:07,971 - What's it say on it? - Villa Baviera. 757 00:40:08,073 --> 00:40:10,273 - This is their fence. 758 00:40:10,342 --> 00:40:12,742 This high-grade fence is theirs. 759 00:40:12,844 --> 00:40:14,489 - You know, last time I saw a fence like that, 760 00:40:14,513 --> 00:40:15,912 I was on a military base. 761 00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:20,750 - Look at this. 762 00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:22,685 - Guard tower. 763 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,988 - Right away, my spider sense is tingling. 764 00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:26,934 I know something was going on here. 765 00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:28,158 - Oh, my God. 766 00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:29,780 - There's no reason to have that there, 767 00:40:29,861 --> 00:40:31,494 except to cover the road. 768 00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,941 They were setting up physical and technological barriers. 769 00:40:33,965 --> 00:40:35,498 - This road's locked down. 770 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,435 This is the only way in, the only way out. 771 00:40:38,537 --> 00:40:40,214 All right, here... We got a checkpoint. 772 00:40:40,238 --> 00:40:42,539 - They were protecting a dark secret. 773 00:40:42,641 --> 00:40:44,140 - Do you see the cameras? 774 00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:45,753 Look at the left corner of the building, 775 00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:47,277 over the top of the lights. 776 00:40:47,379 --> 00:40:49,190 So at night, you can't see those cameras. 777 00:40:49,214 --> 00:40:51,025 - What was it that was so important 778 00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:53,450 that it would be worthy of keeping it a secret? 779 00:40:53,552 --> 00:40:56,786 - This is a fully functional checkpoint. 780 00:40:56,888 --> 00:41:00,623 Welcome to the utopian German colony, Villa Baviera. 781 00:41:03,595 --> 00:41:05,662 Next time on "Hunting Hitler"... 782 00:41:05,764 --> 00:41:09,032 - If Adolf Hitler's bodyguard was in Colonia Dignidad, 783 00:41:09,134 --> 00:41:10,467 who was he protecting? 784 00:41:10,569 --> 00:41:12,613 - With or without their cooperation, 785 00:41:12,637 --> 00:41:14,037 we will get to the truth. 786 00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:22,245 - Nothing could go in or out of Colonia Dignidad 787 00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:24,387 without somebody seeing it from here. 788 00:41:28,687 --> 00:41:30,153 What the? 789 00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:32,295 Yeah, they're sound-proofing this room. 790 00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:37,760 - They built guns. 791 00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:42,565 - There was also chemical weapons, like sarin gas. 792 00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:44,067 - Sarin gas? 793 00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:47,337 - If you have a system to disperse sarin, 794 00:41:47,439 --> 00:41:50,874 you can take out a major American city. 795 00:41:50,976 --> 00:41:52,587 This isn't the Fourth Reich in theory, 796 00:41:52,611 --> 00:41:54,571 this is the Fourth Reich in act. 797 00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:57,595 Subtitles Diego Moraes www.oakisland.tk 61218

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