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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,004 --> 00:00:04,648 - It's amazing after the hubbub of Barcelona. 2 00:00:04,672 --> 00:00:07,006 Suddenly you're so kind of remote, aren't you? 3 00:00:07,108 --> 00:00:08,240 - Wow. 4 00:00:11,512 --> 00:00:14,513 - There literally could not be a better spot to hide. 5 00:00:16,484 --> 00:00:19,151 - For Hitler to escape, he needs to get out of Spain 6 00:00:19,253 --> 00:00:20,486 and go to South America. 7 00:00:20,588 --> 00:00:23,956 - You find me a U-boat base out of Cadiz, 8 00:00:24,058 --> 00:00:25,098 I'll be very happy. 9 00:00:31,165 --> 00:00:32,464 - What was it specifically 10 00:00:32,566 --> 00:00:35,367 that your mother was doing for Nazi Germany? 11 00:00:47,048 --> 00:00:48,914 - It's still there? 12 00:00:49,016 --> 00:00:51,016 - We have to investigate this. 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,040 HUNTING HITLER - SEASON 2 EP - 5 - The Factory 14 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:58,123 - We're looking for an exfiltration route 15 00:00:58,225 --> 00:01:01,160 in the C谩diz area that you could rely on. 16 00:01:01,262 --> 00:01:03,228 CIA veteran Bob Baer 17 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:06,098 and war crimes investigator Dr. John Cencich 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,201 discuss their investigation in Southern Spain 19 00:01:09,303 --> 00:01:11,837 where they are in search of a U-boat loading dock 20 00:01:11,939 --> 00:01:13,139 that Hitler could have used 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,200 to make his way to South America. 22 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:16,442 They are following 23 00:01:16,544 --> 00:01:18,522 a declassified Argentinian document 24 00:01:18,546 --> 00:01:20,345 that claims Nazi U-boats 25 00:01:20,448 --> 00:01:24,349 were secretly moving from C谩diz, Spain to Argentina. 26 00:01:24,452 --> 00:01:27,986 - We have intel telling us that there were U-boats 27 00:01:28,089 --> 00:01:30,222 leaving in this particular area. 28 00:01:30,324 --> 00:01:33,459 We have a photograph with a U-boat there 29 00:01:33,561 --> 00:01:35,094 in the Gulf of C谩diz, 30 00:01:35,196 --> 00:01:37,629 and we have an eyewitness corroborating this. 31 00:01:37,731 --> 00:01:40,999 - On top of it, we've got this lady 32 00:01:41,102 --> 00:01:43,535 who pulls out clear evidence 33 00:01:43,637 --> 00:01:46,572 of Nazi espionage in the C谩diz area, 34 00:01:46,674 --> 00:01:48,507 and she's telling us the Nazis 35 00:01:48,609 --> 00:01:52,010 are using this Reina Cristina Hotel 36 00:01:52,113 --> 00:01:54,513 as a meeting place. 37 00:01:54,615 --> 00:01:56,482 - Spies going in. Spies coming out. 38 00:01:56,584 --> 00:01:58,884 That's where the U-boats are coming in and coming out. 39 00:01:58,986 --> 00:02:00,052 It makes sense. 40 00:02:00,154 --> 00:02:01,487 - Question is, 41 00:02:01,589 --> 00:02:05,858 what do you get if you go Reina Cristina? 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,604 - That's what we need to find out. 43 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:13,198 - If this hotel leads to a potential U-boat exfil point, 44 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:16,001 I'll be very happy. This will be exciting. 45 00:02:28,649 --> 00:02:30,494 - Well, it'll be interesting to see inside it. 46 00:02:30,518 --> 00:02:31,518 - Yeah. 47 00:02:31,585 --> 00:02:33,018 In C谩diz, Spain, 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,098 World War II historian James Holland 49 00:02:35,122 --> 00:02:38,056 and U.S. Army recon expert Mike Simpson 50 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:40,159 arrive at the hotel Reina Cristina 51 00:02:40,227 --> 00:02:41,560 in search of evidence 52 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:43,673 that this location could have been used 53 00:02:43,697 --> 00:02:46,098 to covertly board onto a U-boat. 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,000 - You can see why 55 00:02:48,102 --> 00:02:49,379 you would have so many spies here 56 00:02:49,403 --> 00:02:51,970 back in the first part of the 20th century. 57 00:02:52,072 --> 00:02:54,117 - You certainly can. - Someone up there, 58 00:02:54,141 --> 00:02:56,074 big pair of binos, 59 00:02:56,177 --> 00:02:58,644 looking straight out over the water. 60 00:03:01,081 --> 00:03:03,059 Oh, yes, you can see a bit from here, can't you? 61 00:03:03,083 --> 00:03:05,984 - The beach is right there. - Yes. 62 00:03:06,086 --> 00:03:08,987 - So the fact that we have the easy access to the beach, 63 00:03:09,089 --> 00:03:10,901 you can almost picture in your mind, you know, 64 00:03:10,925 --> 00:03:12,824 a U-boat popping up, up there. 65 00:03:12,927 --> 00:03:15,038 - So as long as you could get someone down to the beach, 66 00:03:15,062 --> 00:03:17,362 it would be hypothetically possible 67 00:03:17,464 --> 00:03:19,198 to get a U-boat in here. 68 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:22,367 - I would still always prefer to do it completely clandestine. 69 00:03:22,469 --> 00:03:24,381 Avoiding visual detection is ideal. 70 00:03:24,405 --> 00:03:27,539 I'd like to see something that would get me all the way out 71 00:03:27,641 --> 00:03:30,342 into that U-boat without ever being detected. 72 00:03:30,444 --> 00:03:33,078 - We're looking for signs of infrastructure. 73 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:35,380 What I want to do is look around the hotel 74 00:03:35,482 --> 00:03:38,917 and see what can I find out from the people who are there? 75 00:03:39,019 --> 00:03:40,697 - Hola. - Hey, como estas? Bien. 76 00:03:40,721 --> 00:03:43,021 The team makes contact with Claudio Cosas, 77 00:03:43,123 --> 00:03:45,324 a hotel employee. 78 00:03:51,031 --> 00:03:52,998 - Okay. Says he knows it well. 79 00:04:07,181 --> 00:04:08,258 - He's gonna show us. - Oh, fantastic. 80 00:04:08,282 --> 00:04:09,448 - Si, vamos. 81 00:04:09,550 --> 00:04:11,250 Claudio leads the team 82 00:04:11,352 --> 00:04:14,253 to an entrance below the hotel's pool. 83 00:04:14,355 --> 00:04:16,221 - Oh, my goodness. 84 00:04:16,323 --> 00:04:18,363 So the question's where does that go? 85 00:04:21,395 --> 00:04:23,195 - I need to take a look at that. 86 00:04:25,599 --> 00:04:29,534 Really cramped in here, and pretty smelly. 87 00:04:31,538 --> 00:04:36,074 I'm gonna follow this around... See where it goes. 88 00:04:36,176 --> 00:04:38,210 Really tight. 89 00:04:38,312 --> 00:04:40,445 Sounds like water flowing up ahead, 90 00:04:40,547 --> 00:04:43,282 and I'm seeing some light. 91 00:04:43,384 --> 00:04:44,516 Wow! 92 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:46,685 I was not expecting this at all. 93 00:04:50,491 --> 00:04:53,258 So I've got two big wells, big cisterns, 94 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,228 about 2 1/2 meters across. 95 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:59,097 It's probably about 30 feet down. 96 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:00,899 The team has discovered a tunnel 97 00:05:01,001 --> 00:05:03,068 that runs below the hotel's pool 98 00:05:03,170 --> 00:05:06,905 leading to a pair of wells 100 feet from the coast. 99 00:05:07,007 --> 00:05:09,107 - There's water down there. 100 00:05:09,209 --> 00:05:10,475 I can actually smell the salt, 101 00:05:10,577 --> 00:05:14,112 so this is not freshwater coming down. 102 00:05:14,214 --> 00:05:17,449 And there's a steel ladder placed in the side. 103 00:05:17,551 --> 00:05:18,984 Definitely somebody had an eye 104 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:22,154 on making this easily accessible 105 00:05:22,256 --> 00:05:23,822 down to the bottom. 106 00:05:23,924 --> 00:05:26,825 I'm wondering, are these wells some type of way 107 00:05:26,927 --> 00:05:28,460 to get someone out to link up 108 00:05:28,562 --> 00:05:31,463 with that U-boat without any detection whatsoever? 109 00:05:31,565 --> 00:05:33,865 We're gonna need some help to answer this question. 110 00:05:36,937 --> 00:05:39,137 At first light, Mike and James return 111 00:05:39,239 --> 00:05:41,206 to the hotel Reina Cristina. 112 00:05:41,308 --> 00:05:43,388 They're joined by a structural engineer 113 00:05:43,444 --> 00:05:45,344 and a team of divers. 114 00:05:47,981 --> 00:05:49,848 They hope to determine if these wells 115 00:05:49,950 --> 00:05:51,561 could have served as a clandestine 116 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:53,752 escape route to the Atlantic. 117 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:09,101 According to the experts, 118 00:06:09,203 --> 00:06:13,238 these wells were once part of the hotel's drainage system. 119 00:06:13,340 --> 00:06:14,773 During a downpour, 120 00:06:14,875 --> 00:06:16,519 rain would funnel into the wells, 121 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:18,421 travel through a tunnel at the base, 122 00:06:18,445 --> 00:06:20,390 and drain out into the open ocean. 123 00:06:20,414 --> 00:06:23,248 But due to rising sea levels in recent years, 124 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:27,486 salt water has flooded into these now-defunct reservoirs. 125 00:06:27,588 --> 00:06:30,188 - Seawater has completely flooded these wells now, 126 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:32,491 which is why I smelled the salt water. 127 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,393 But back in 1945, 128 00:06:34,495 --> 00:06:35,961 unless there was a rain storm, 129 00:06:36,063 --> 00:06:37,440 these would have been wide open. 130 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:39,798 The question now is, is this tunnel 131 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:42,934 at the bottom big enough for a person to fit through? 132 00:06:43,036 --> 00:06:44,503 Because if it is, that tells me 133 00:06:44,605 --> 00:06:46,138 that they could shuttle people 134 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,400 from right inside the compound of the hotel, 135 00:06:48,475 --> 00:06:50,942 right out into the ocean into a waiting U-boat. 136 00:06:51,044 --> 00:06:52,310 There's our baby. 137 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:54,846 Fortunately, we have the technology 138 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:57,416 at our disposal to find out. 139 00:06:57,518 --> 00:06:58,950 Mike and James are armed 140 00:06:59,052 --> 00:07:01,253 with a waterproof ROVVER X crawler, 141 00:07:01,355 --> 00:07:03,722 which is used to explore underwater caves 142 00:07:03,824 --> 00:07:05,424 and dangerous pipelines. 143 00:07:05,526 --> 00:07:07,726 It is equipped with front- and rear-facing 144 00:07:07,828 --> 00:07:10,095 high-definition cameras on a robotic arm 145 00:07:10,197 --> 00:07:12,798 with full articulation and rotation. 146 00:07:14,501 --> 00:07:16,079 - James, I'm hooked up to the cable 147 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:20,839 if you want to check it on your end. 148 00:07:20,941 --> 00:07:22,619 How's that picture looking on your end? 149 00:07:22,643 --> 00:07:24,754 - It's looking incredibly clear, actually. 150 00:07:24,778 --> 00:07:26,778 - I'm gonna start lowering it down. 151 00:07:31,118 --> 00:07:34,019 I can see the light in the water. 152 00:07:34,121 --> 00:07:36,721 - We're underwater now, Mike. 153 00:07:36,824 --> 00:07:39,424 So far that water is pretty clear. 154 00:07:39,526 --> 00:07:41,526 I'm looking at something. 155 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:43,028 Okay, Mike. 156 00:07:43,130 --> 00:07:45,530 You got a tunnel. 157 00:07:45,632 --> 00:07:48,467 - A tunnel. 158 00:07:48,569 --> 00:07:49,768 Roger that, James. 159 00:07:49,870 --> 00:07:51,570 I'm looking down at the light. 160 00:07:51,672 --> 00:07:53,950 The light is heading in exactly the direction of the beach. 161 00:07:53,974 --> 00:07:55,919 How big around does the tunnel look? 162 00:07:55,943 --> 00:07:57,887 - I can't tell from looking at the screen 163 00:07:57,911 --> 00:08:00,045 how big the cavity is. 164 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:02,107 - Control the ROVVER in the water. 165 00:08:02,182 --> 00:08:03,482 You can drive it. 166 00:08:03,584 --> 00:08:05,684 - Let me give it a go. 167 00:08:10,757 --> 00:08:12,390 It's not going, is it? 168 00:08:12,493 --> 00:08:13,937 I don't know what's going on here, Mike. 169 00:08:13,961 --> 00:08:15,572 It's not moving along the sediment. 170 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:17,006 I don't know quite what to suggest. 171 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:18,875 - So rocking the wheels forward and back, 172 00:08:18,899 --> 00:08:20,810 you're not getting any traction at all? 173 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:23,468 - No, it just can't move. 174 00:08:23,570 --> 00:08:25,682 That robot was going absolutely nowhere. 175 00:08:25,706 --> 00:08:28,139 There's so much silt, the wheels just can't grip. 176 00:08:28,242 --> 00:08:29,808 The silt is too deep. 177 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:31,688 So at this point, there's only one solution, 178 00:08:31,712 --> 00:08:33,645 and that's to get eyes down there 179 00:08:33,747 --> 00:08:36,815 and see how big this tunnel is. 180 00:08:36,917 --> 00:08:38,783 The divers descend into the well 181 00:08:38,886 --> 00:08:40,864 in hopes of determining the dimensions 182 00:08:40,888 --> 00:08:43,088 at the base of the tunnel. 183 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:48,360 - He's in the water. 184 00:08:48,462 --> 00:08:50,622 He's gonna try to free dive it a little bit. 185 00:08:52,699 --> 00:08:54,132 - The divers going down there... 186 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:56,045 That's quite brave of them, to be perfectly honest, 187 00:08:56,069 --> 00:08:59,804 because they are literally diving down into the unknown. 188 00:09:26,767 --> 00:09:30,535 It goes to the ocean for 30 meters? 189 00:09:30,637 --> 00:09:32,448 All right, James. He swam it. 190 00:09:32,472 --> 00:09:34,639 It goes for 30 meters towards the ocean. 191 00:09:34,741 --> 00:09:35,807 How wide is it? 192 00:09:37,544 --> 00:09:39,711 - So 90, 90 centimeters? 193 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:43,748 - Okay, so 120 centimeters by 90 centimeters, 194 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:46,284 so pretty sizable. 195 00:09:46,386 --> 00:09:47,797 - That's not just a drainage pipe. 196 00:09:47,821 --> 00:09:49,020 You can walk in that. 197 00:09:52,593 --> 00:09:54,737 - The intelligence that we have has led us here 198 00:09:54,761 --> 00:09:57,862 to the southwestern corner of all of Europe. 199 00:09:57,965 --> 00:10:01,232 Today we were able to prove we have a definitive link 200 00:10:01,335 --> 00:10:03,802 from the hotel to the open ocean, 201 00:10:03,904 --> 00:10:06,271 directly toward Hitler's ultimate destination, 202 00:10:06,373 --> 00:10:07,606 South America. 203 00:10:10,644 --> 00:10:12,444 - I'm convinced now. 204 00:10:12,546 --> 00:10:15,380 Someone could have come to this hotel, 205 00:10:15,482 --> 00:10:16,715 gone out the tunnel, 206 00:10:16,817 --> 00:10:18,550 got on a U-boat, 207 00:10:18,652 --> 00:10:21,152 out of sight, no witnesses. 208 00:10:21,254 --> 00:10:23,214 You know, next stop is Argentina. 209 00:10:23,290 --> 00:10:24,789 Bob and John review the findings 210 00:10:24,891 --> 00:10:28,193 from the hotel Reina Cristina in C谩diz, Spain 211 00:10:28,295 --> 00:10:30,576 where they have discovered a clandestine tunnel 212 00:10:30,631 --> 00:10:32,297 leading to the Atlantic Ocean. 213 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:36,368 - You've got a exfiltration route here by U-boat, 214 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:40,238 but we have no idea who got on that U-boat. 215 00:10:40,340 --> 00:10:44,542 Do we have any evidence that either Hitler or Bormann 216 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:46,745 were on a U-boat leaving C谩diz? 217 00:10:46,847 --> 00:10:48,213 - No, we don't. 218 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:49,626 I think we need to see if there are 219 00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:52,784 any other intel reports in the database, 220 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:56,755 and let's see if either one, or both, show up 221 00:10:56,857 --> 00:11:00,158 in this particular radius. 222 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:02,494 Hitler. Bormann. 223 00:11:02,596 --> 00:11:06,798 What I'm going to do is put in 100 miles of C谩diz. 224 00:11:11,271 --> 00:11:13,872 - This is a MI6 report. 225 00:11:13,974 --> 00:11:15,373 August 10, 1949. 226 00:11:15,475 --> 00:11:17,442 Bormann's headquarters: 227 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:19,911 Tangier, Morocco. 228 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:23,314 "A former Luftwaffe pilot asked whether Bormann 229 00:11:23,417 --> 00:11:25,283 "really had the organization 230 00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:27,185 "of which he had been told, 231 00:11:27,287 --> 00:11:29,154 "and received the reply that 232 00:11:29,256 --> 00:11:30,689 "'we National-Socialists' 233 00:11:30,791 --> 00:11:33,358 "were working for their whole lives 234 00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:34,826 "to prepare a comeback 235 00:11:34,928 --> 00:11:37,629 "for National-Socialism in Germany 236 00:11:37,731 --> 00:11:40,465 and in the whole world." 237 00:11:40,567 --> 00:11:44,169 It's a huge statement that Bormann goes to Tangier 238 00:11:44,271 --> 00:11:46,538 to set up the Fourth Reich? 239 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,606 - And that's not speculation. 240 00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:51,776 Earlier in the investigation, we uncovered Hitler 241 00:11:51,878 --> 00:11:56,681 had plans for the continuation of his empire 242 00:11:56,783 --> 00:11:59,350 well beyond the Second World War. 243 00:11:59,453 --> 00:12:01,297 Hitler carried with him secret plans 244 00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:03,855 for the V-3 Sky Rocket bomb. 245 00:12:03,957 --> 00:12:06,691 - A V-3 could hit the United States. 246 00:12:06,793 --> 00:12:08,705 Hitler didn't think history was over for him. 247 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:12,297 He came here to plan something. 248 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,232 If Hitler was still alive, 249 00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:17,736 he wasn't gonna disappear to Argentina, 250 00:12:17,838 --> 00:12:19,816 move up in the mountains, and write poetry. 251 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,675 We're talking about somebody who had great pretentions of power, 252 00:12:23,777 --> 00:12:26,845 but he's got to have a network that he trusts, 253 00:12:26,947 --> 00:12:29,614 and Bormann is the guy that Hitler trusted. 254 00:12:29,716 --> 00:12:33,184 - What's really interesting here is the proximity. 255 00:12:33,286 --> 00:12:36,621 Tangier is only nine miles from the hotel. 256 00:12:36,723 --> 00:12:40,525 - And remember that Tangier was a lot like Spain. 257 00:12:40,627 --> 00:12:44,129 It was never fully under Allied control. 258 00:12:44,231 --> 00:12:48,333 It's always been a point of smuggling into Europe. 259 00:12:48,435 --> 00:12:50,835 Tangier's a good place to hide. 260 00:12:50,937 --> 00:12:54,873 - If Hitler and Bormann were in Spain, 261 00:12:54,975 --> 00:12:56,775 there's every reason to infer 262 00:12:56,877 --> 00:12:59,110 from this that Hitler 263 00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:02,247 got on the U-boat from Spain 264 00:13:02,349 --> 00:13:04,249 to South America, 265 00:13:04,351 --> 00:13:06,851 and Bormann goes to Tangier 266 00:13:06,953 --> 00:13:09,888 and sets up his headquarters there in view 267 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:14,125 of their overall ambition for a Fourth Reich. 268 00:13:14,227 --> 00:13:15,460 - Yeah, I totally agree. 269 00:13:15,562 --> 00:13:17,362 What we got to do is get the team there, 270 00:13:17,464 --> 00:13:19,464 and all I care about is some evidence 271 00:13:19,566 --> 00:13:20,832 that Bormann went there. 272 00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:23,835 Headquarters can mean all sorts of things. 273 00:13:23,937 --> 00:13:26,871 - Tangier's a big city, but we have to start somewhere. 274 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:28,840 - Yep. Let's go. 275 00:13:41,721 --> 00:13:43,332 - What do you think we need to be looking for 276 00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:45,557 if there is such a headquarters? 277 00:13:45,659 --> 00:13:48,960 - Communications and security, first and foremost. 278 00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:51,663 U.S. Army recon expert Mike Simpson 279 00:13:51,765 --> 00:13:54,199 and World War II historian James Holland 280 00:13:54,301 --> 00:13:57,268 are in the Moroccan city of Tangier. 281 00:13:57,370 --> 00:14:01,206 - So this is the original ancient port. 282 00:14:01,308 --> 00:14:04,876 They rendezvous with local translator Stefan. 283 00:14:04,978 --> 00:14:06,856 - And there's Spain, right there. 284 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,279 Just a little jump to C谩diz. 285 00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:10,982 - Yeah, just across the sea. 286 00:14:11,084 --> 00:14:13,251 - For centuries, Tangier has been known 287 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:17,021 as an international city with strategic importance. 288 00:14:17,123 --> 00:14:18,656 It sits right at the mouth 289 00:14:18,758 --> 00:14:19,902 of the Mediterranean and the Atlantic. 290 00:14:19,926 --> 00:14:21,793 It's in a key position. 291 00:14:21,895 --> 00:14:25,063 We need to follow this thread out and see where it leads. 292 00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:27,098 - Mike. - How do you do? James. 293 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,566 - Rashid. 294 00:14:28,668 --> 00:14:29,834 The team makes contact 295 00:14:29,936 --> 00:14:32,036 with Professor Rashid Taperssiti, 296 00:14:32,138 --> 00:14:35,506 an expert on Moroccan 20th century history. 297 00:14:35,609 --> 00:14:39,010 - What was the scene here in the 1940s and 1950s? 298 00:15:03,737 --> 00:15:07,605 - Where you've got spies, that means you've got safe houses, 299 00:15:07,707 --> 00:15:09,607 knowledge, infrastructure, 300 00:15:09,709 --> 00:15:12,143 which post-war, if you're a fleeing Nazi, 301 00:15:12,245 --> 00:15:14,913 is all incredibly useful. 302 00:15:15,015 --> 00:15:16,959 So I'm thinking, Mike, you know, if I'm a German spy 303 00:15:16,983 --> 00:15:19,550 and I'm here, I can't think of a better place 304 00:15:19,653 --> 00:15:21,619 to spy than the port. 305 00:15:21,721 --> 00:15:23,187 Rashid leads the team 306 00:15:23,290 --> 00:15:25,790 to a lookout point to better examine the port, 307 00:15:25,892 --> 00:15:27,870 a potential entry and exit location 308 00:15:27,894 --> 00:15:29,794 for spies in Tangier. 309 00:15:29,896 --> 00:15:32,797 - God, it's amazing. - It is amazing. 310 00:15:32,899 --> 00:15:36,634 It's an incredible view from up here. 311 00:15:36,736 --> 00:15:39,081 - So this is where espionage begins. 312 00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:40,672 But once you've got your information, 313 00:15:40,774 --> 00:15:43,741 you're then taking that into the city. 314 00:15:43,843 --> 00:15:47,178 - During the 1940s, was there any location 315 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,747 where German military officials 316 00:15:49,849 --> 00:15:51,950 were seen moving in and out? 317 00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:05,576 - In the Marshan neighborhood specifically? 318 00:16:07,901 --> 00:16:10,501 - We started with a really broad location, the city of Tangier. 319 00:16:10,603 --> 00:16:11,843 Now we've narrowed that down 320 00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:14,205 to a specific neighborhood, Marshan. 321 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:15,840 This is a known location 322 00:16:15,942 --> 00:16:17,653 where these Nazis were interacting 323 00:16:17,677 --> 00:16:19,155 during the time period that we're interested in. 324 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:20,890 Now, we just need to find the brain... 325 00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:22,825 The headquarters, the nerve center. 326 00:16:22,849 --> 00:16:26,250 - Exactly. That's where the trail leads us. 327 00:16:32,359 --> 00:16:34,592 - We've gone from the entire city of Tangier 328 00:16:34,694 --> 00:16:37,195 to one neighborhood, Marshan. 329 00:16:37,297 --> 00:16:39,008 - Yeah, let's... We have to dig into this 330 00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:40,565 and see what we can find. 331 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:41,966 - When we look at the evidence, 332 00:16:42,068 --> 00:16:45,203 it's clear that a Fourth Reich was planned. 333 00:16:45,305 --> 00:16:48,206 Bob and John discuss their investigation in Tangier, 334 00:16:48,308 --> 00:16:52,310 Morocco, where an MI6 file reports Martin Bormann 335 00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:54,490 was setting up a headquarters for Hitler 336 00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:57,882 to reenter the world stage after World War II. 337 00:16:57,984 --> 00:16:59,751 - We're talking about the Fourth Reich. 338 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:02,754 It reminds me of another one of the documents 339 00:17:02,856 --> 00:17:04,856 that we had earlier in the investigation. 340 00:17:04,958 --> 00:17:08,292 Here we have a U.S. military intelligence document 341 00:17:08,395 --> 00:17:10,962 dated 7th of November, 1944, 342 00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:13,531 where a French intelligence officer 343 00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:15,700 infiltrated a Nazi meeting. 344 00:17:15,802 --> 00:17:19,370 These are the things that he was able to discern. 345 00:17:19,472 --> 00:17:22,640 "Existing financial reserves in foreign countries 346 00:17:22,742 --> 00:17:25,309 "must be placed at the disposal of the party 347 00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:27,245 "so that a strong German Empire 348 00:17:27,347 --> 00:17:32,250 "can be created after the defeat. 349 00:17:32,352 --> 00:17:34,452 "These bureaus will receive plans 350 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:37,522 and drawings of new weapons." 351 00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:40,491 - The Fourth Reich depended on armed force. 352 00:17:40,593 --> 00:17:43,327 If Hitler is gonna come back, 353 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:45,730 weapons are absolutely crucial. 354 00:17:45,832 --> 00:17:48,633 - If you're really going to become involved 355 00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:51,569 with the manufacture or distribution of arms, 356 00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:52,804 what do you need? 357 00:17:52,906 --> 00:17:54,939 You need a munitions expert. 358 00:17:55,041 --> 00:17:56,607 You know who comes to mind? 359 00:17:56,709 --> 00:17:59,377 None other than Fritz Mandl. 360 00:17:59,479 --> 00:18:01,612 - What can Francisco tell us about how Mandl 361 00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:03,514 made his money while he was in Argentina? 362 00:18:03,616 --> 00:18:05,628 - He used to own an ammunition factory. 363 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:06,896 - So he was making arms while he was here? 364 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,252 - Yes. 365 00:18:08,354 --> 00:18:09,765 - And here we have Hitler meeting with him 366 00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:10,888 after World War II. 367 00:18:10,990 --> 00:18:12,690 This paints a picture of a man 368 00:18:12,792 --> 00:18:14,859 who's trying to set up an army in Argentina... 369 00:18:14,961 --> 00:18:16,461 A Nazi army. 370 00:18:16,563 --> 00:18:18,941 Austrian. Munitions maker. 371 00:18:18,965 --> 00:18:20,598 Big time money. 372 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:21,999 - And he's in Argentina. 373 00:18:22,102 --> 00:18:24,902 - What's important here is that Mandl 374 00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:28,439 was a trusted member of Hitler's inner circle. 375 00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:30,274 He's a dyed-in-the-wool Nazi, 376 00:18:30,376 --> 00:18:32,743 and he's somebody that Hitler could trust. 377 00:18:32,846 --> 00:18:34,912 - I think we need to look a little bit 378 00:18:35,014 --> 00:18:37,615 closer at Fritz Mandl. 379 00:18:40,587 --> 00:18:43,321 Okay, we got a hit. 380 00:18:43,423 --> 00:18:46,791 U.S. War Department report in 1943: 381 00:18:46,893 --> 00:18:50,294 "Mandl's bicycle and plastic plants began 382 00:18:50,396 --> 00:18:52,697 "to produce machine guns, airplanes, 383 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:54,866 bullets, and bombs." 384 00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:56,267 This is the perfect cover. 385 00:18:56,369 --> 00:18:58,209 - Yeah. - The raw materials, 386 00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:02,640 the machinery that's needed to produce bicycles, 387 00:19:02,742 --> 00:19:05,743 is the same as what's needed for machine guns, 388 00:19:05,845 --> 00:19:07,612 bullets, and bombs. 389 00:19:07,714 --> 00:19:11,883 He owned a number of companies in Argentina. 390 00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:15,419 One of particular note is a bicycle factory 391 00:19:15,522 --> 00:19:17,255 in Buenos Aires. 392 00:19:17,357 --> 00:19:18,556 If we could go to this 393 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:21,325 so-called bicycle factory in Buenos Aires, 394 00:19:21,427 --> 00:19:25,963 and if I could get some forensic evidence to munitions... 395 00:19:26,065 --> 00:19:28,366 Weapons, explosives... 396 00:19:28,468 --> 00:19:31,903 Circumstantially, a conspiracy has been proved. 397 00:19:32,005 --> 00:19:33,804 - We are doing the investigation 398 00:19:33,907 --> 00:19:36,387 that should have been done 70 years ago. 399 00:19:49,589 --> 00:19:52,423 - Kind of a weird location for him to have a factory, 400 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:54,592 downtown Buenos Aires. 401 00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:56,794 Investigative journalist Gerrard Williams 402 00:19:56,896 --> 00:19:59,564 and U.S. Army Special Forces' Tim Kennedy 403 00:19:59,666 --> 00:20:01,666 along with local translator Nicole 404 00:20:01,734 --> 00:20:03,434 arrive at the location 405 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:07,371 that was once Fritz Mandl's bicycle factory. 406 00:20:07,473 --> 00:20:08,806 - You ready? 407 00:20:08,908 --> 00:20:10,868 We're coming to the Mandl factory 408 00:20:10,944 --> 00:20:13,010 to see if they were making munitions. 409 00:20:13,112 --> 00:20:15,246 Munitions can be so many things. 410 00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:16,581 They could be grenades. 411 00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:18,494 It could be ammunition. It could be explosives. 412 00:20:18,518 --> 00:20:20,251 Bombs. Artillery. 413 00:20:20,353 --> 00:20:22,673 The spectrum of what a munition can be is diverse. 414 00:20:22,755 --> 00:20:26,691 It just has to do one thing, hurt people. 415 00:20:26,793 --> 00:20:28,759 The team meets with Margarita, 416 00:20:28,861 --> 00:20:30,873 a long-time employee of the factory. 417 00:20:30,897 --> 00:20:34,565 - The era that we're the most interested in is 418 00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:37,902 when Mandl was working at this factory. 419 00:20:45,478 --> 00:20:47,478 - Somewhere around '43, 420 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,781 he started appearing in the books as vice president, 421 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:54,552 but it's still a mystery exactly how long he was here for. 422 00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:58,222 - What were they able to make with the machines 423 00:20:58,324 --> 00:20:59,557 that they were using? 424 00:21:10,336 --> 00:21:13,571 - They could make from really, really thin aluminum items 425 00:21:13,673 --> 00:21:15,985 and really thick aluminum objects. 426 00:21:16,009 --> 00:21:17,308 - Yeah. 427 00:21:17,410 --> 00:21:18,587 - The versatility of those machines, 428 00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:19,888 if you have the right engineer... 429 00:21:19,912 --> 00:21:21,824 You can make almost anything metal 430 00:21:21,848 --> 00:21:23,481 right here in this factory. 431 00:21:23,583 --> 00:21:25,027 They have the equipment to be able 432 00:21:25,051 --> 00:21:27,385 to execute from start to finish, 433 00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:30,388 not only a gun, but also the ammunition. 434 00:21:44,704 --> 00:21:45,903 - Tim? 435 00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:57,214 - A German machine imported here? 436 00:21:57,317 --> 00:21:58,749 - Yeah, it has to be. 437 00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:00,584 And the size of this stuff... 438 00:22:00,687 --> 00:22:02,453 The size that reminds me 439 00:22:02,555 --> 00:22:04,667 of nothing more than artillery shells. 440 00:22:04,691 --> 00:22:06,791 Or mortar rounds. 441 00:22:06,893 --> 00:22:08,726 - This is all 1940s. 442 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:11,662 German design. German manufactured. 443 00:22:11,764 --> 00:22:14,565 Just in downtown Buenos Aires, Argentina. 444 00:22:22,475 --> 00:22:24,909 - This place is filthy. 445 00:22:25,011 --> 00:22:26,877 Tim Kennedy and Gerrard Williams 446 00:22:26,979 --> 00:22:28,412 have gained access to a factory 447 00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:32,116 once owned by Nazi sympathizer Fritz Mandl 448 00:22:32,218 --> 00:22:34,163 that, according to a declassified 449 00:22:34,187 --> 00:22:35,519 U.S. War Department file, 450 00:22:35,621 --> 00:22:38,422 was secretly manufacturing munitions. 451 00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:39,935 - One thing's for sure, it hasn't had 452 00:22:39,959 --> 00:22:42,026 a deep clean in the last 75 years. 453 00:22:42,128 --> 00:22:44,095 They're investigating a now-defunct section 454 00:22:44,197 --> 00:22:45,396 of the factory 455 00:22:45,498 --> 00:22:47,498 that was in use during the 1940s. 456 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,267 - There's inches of dirt in the corners, on the floor, 457 00:22:50,370 --> 00:22:52,002 in the center where we walk. 458 00:22:52,105 --> 00:22:54,149 It could be a blessing in disguise 459 00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:56,151 because if they were making bullets here, 460 00:22:56,175 --> 00:22:59,176 if they were making explosives here, whenever they stopped, 461 00:22:59,278 --> 00:23:01,123 it doesn't look like they started cleaning up. 462 00:23:01,147 --> 00:23:02,224 - No. - So this could be 463 00:23:02,248 --> 00:23:03,459 the environment 464 00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:05,561 that could protect those residues. 465 00:23:05,585 --> 00:23:08,386 - Residues, yeah. It's not going to have decayed over 70 years. 466 00:23:08,488 --> 00:23:09,653 - No. 467 00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:11,676 We're looking for trace elements 468 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:14,191 of the things that they used in explosives 469 00:23:14,293 --> 00:23:16,394 and ammunitions back during World War II. 470 00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:18,162 This factory's dirty, 471 00:23:18,264 --> 00:23:21,599 but dirt actually would have protected those traces 472 00:23:21,701 --> 00:23:24,235 that we're looking for over the course of time. 473 00:23:24,337 --> 00:23:25,836 And the technology that we have 474 00:23:25,938 --> 00:23:27,916 could still be able to identify them. 475 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:29,551 These are explosive test cards. 476 00:23:29,575 --> 00:23:31,553 - Okay. - So I go. I find a sample. 477 00:23:31,577 --> 00:23:33,455 I get a little bit of residue. Put it on the card. 478 00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:35,924 Take the card. Put it into the SEEKERe. 479 00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:38,260 If there's explosive residues on the card, 480 00:23:38,284 --> 00:23:41,485 the SEEKERe will tell me that this is what you found, 481 00:23:41,587 --> 00:23:43,999 and this is the material that's being used here. 482 00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:46,257 The team is armed with a SEEKERe, 483 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,859 a state-of-the-art munitions detection device 484 00:23:48,961 --> 00:23:51,128 used by military forces around the world. 485 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:54,231 To minimize false positives, a test card is inserted 486 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:56,100 into the SEEKERe, 487 00:23:56,202 --> 00:23:57,713 which releases a chemical solution 488 00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,603 that causes explosive material 489 00:23:59,705 --> 00:24:02,873 to change color when detected. 490 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:04,608 - I got to go get some samples. 491 00:24:07,513 --> 00:24:09,313 Those things are sketchy. 492 00:24:09,415 --> 00:24:11,115 I want to test those. 493 00:24:15,121 --> 00:24:18,556 A bunch of black residue at the bottom of this still. 494 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:30,434 3, 2, 1... done. 495 00:24:30,536 --> 00:24:32,470 Finalizing test results. 496 00:24:34,540 --> 00:24:36,340 No explosives detected. 497 00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:39,343 - Okay, clean. - All right, let's keep looking. 498 00:24:44,417 --> 00:24:47,852 See anything that's test-worthy? 499 00:24:47,954 --> 00:24:49,914 - There's not a lot up here, Tim. 500 00:24:53,226 --> 00:24:54,458 - Hey, Gerrard! 501 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,238 - Yes? - Oh, there's definitely stuff 502 00:24:56,262 --> 00:24:57,928 in here, Gerrard. 503 00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:05,503 So we have multiple bits of equipment here 504 00:25:05,605 --> 00:25:08,572 for measuring chemicals, 505 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:12,510 I mean, down to the gram. 506 00:25:12,612 --> 00:25:16,180 This is what I'm testing right now. 507 00:25:16,282 --> 00:25:18,415 You can still see residue in the bottom. 508 00:25:18,518 --> 00:25:19,817 - Mm-hmm. 509 00:25:25,658 --> 00:25:29,093 - Analyzing explosive test card. 510 00:25:29,195 --> 00:25:31,028 Ten seconds. 511 00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:42,840 I have a positive hit. 512 00:25:42,942 --> 00:25:45,009 I have explosive detected. 513 00:25:45,111 --> 00:25:47,878 Group one TNT, TNB. 514 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:50,058 - It's detected TNT, Tim, up here? 515 00:25:50,082 --> 00:25:51,215 - Yeah. 516 00:25:51,317 --> 00:25:54,952 The stuff that was used after World War I, 517 00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:56,287 during World War II, 518 00:25:56,389 --> 00:25:57,989 to build ammunition, to build explosives? 519 00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:00,591 - Mm-hmm. - We have two of the ingredients 520 00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:03,160 they used then right here. 521 00:26:03,262 --> 00:26:05,496 If we found other stuff, it would indicate 522 00:26:05,598 --> 00:26:08,198 a different era of manufacturing, 523 00:26:08,301 --> 00:26:11,902 but the sample in here is materials 524 00:26:12,004 --> 00:26:14,972 that they used back then. 525 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,441 We came here for evidence. It looks like we found it. 526 00:26:17,543 --> 00:26:19,944 If Hitler and Bormann were planning a Fourth Reich, 527 00:26:20,046 --> 00:26:22,479 they're gonna have munition factories just like this. 528 00:26:22,582 --> 00:26:24,493 They're gonna have partners like Mandl. 529 00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:27,585 I think that this factory, what they're making here, 530 00:26:27,687 --> 00:26:29,807 could have been part of the Fourth Reich. 531 00:26:39,332 --> 00:26:41,899 - If I were a spy operating in this area, 532 00:26:42,001 --> 00:26:44,246 these are exactly the types of streets 533 00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:47,605 that I would want if I had to move from point A to point B. 534 00:26:47,707 --> 00:26:49,807 Lots of places to duck off. 535 00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:51,675 In Tangier, Morocco, 536 00:26:51,777 --> 00:26:55,212 Mike and James investigate the Marshan neighborhood, 537 00:26:55,314 --> 00:26:58,349 a reported hotbed of Nazi activity in the area. 538 00:26:58,451 --> 00:26:59,728 They are in search of a location 539 00:26:59,752 --> 00:27:01,285 that could have been used 540 00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:03,320 as Martin Bormann's headquarters 541 00:27:03,422 --> 00:27:05,267 for the planning of the Fourth Reich 542 00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:09,460 as reported by a declassified MI6 file. 543 00:27:09,562 --> 00:27:10,772 - There would have been expats 544 00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,507 from all these European countries here 545 00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:13,831 from the early days of the war, 546 00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,700 maybe fleeing, on through the war and post-war. 547 00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:19,536 - This really is a kind of a confluence 548 00:27:19,639 --> 00:27:21,672 of all sorts of different people, isn't it? 549 00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:22,951 - We started with a really broad location, 550 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,842 the city of Tangier. 551 00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:27,645 We've narrowed that down to a neighborhood, Marshan. 552 00:27:27,747 --> 00:27:29,891 Now what we're looking for is a headquarters building 553 00:27:29,915 --> 00:27:33,417 that is supposed to have existed 70 years ago. 554 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,586 It might not even be standing today. 555 00:27:35,688 --> 00:27:37,466 So we need to look around a little bit, 556 00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:38,934 start to elicit human intelligence, 557 00:27:38,958 --> 00:27:41,625 and try to locate it on the ground. 558 00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:47,564 - Is there a house or a business 559 00:27:47,667 --> 00:27:49,867 where Germans would be located? 560 00:27:50,903 --> 00:27:52,569 - Yeah, okay. 561 00:27:52,672 --> 00:27:54,338 - It's very easy to lose your bearings. 562 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,873 - Yeah. 563 00:27:55,975 --> 00:27:57,853 - If you're off looking for headquarters, 564 00:27:57,877 --> 00:28:00,744 this is your area, because you want somewhere discreet, 565 00:28:00,846 --> 00:28:02,246 out of the way, 566 00:28:02,348 --> 00:28:04,782 that people aren't going to notice. 567 00:28:04,884 --> 00:28:07,685 Look at that. 568 00:28:07,787 --> 00:28:10,788 I want to see what that's got to offer. 569 00:28:10,890 --> 00:28:13,457 Mike and James discover an abandoned building 570 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,799 on the outskirts of the Marshan neighborhood. 571 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:26,537 What is this place? 572 00:28:26,639 --> 00:28:28,717 - The first thing I think of is, like, a fortress. 573 00:28:28,741 --> 00:28:30,318 I mean, these walls are so thick. 574 00:28:30,342 --> 00:28:34,478 They don't build them like this anymore. 575 00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:36,660 - This feels like a hideout, doesn't it? 576 00:28:36,716 --> 00:28:38,276 - There's things I like about this place 577 00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:40,284 for, like, a meeting place? 578 00:28:40,386 --> 00:28:41,663 - Right. - Not necessarily 579 00:28:41,687 --> 00:28:43,020 as a hiding place. 580 00:28:43,122 --> 00:28:44,700 - Right. - Unlike a lot of the streets 581 00:28:44,724 --> 00:28:46,768 that we've been on it's, like, a triple-wide street, 582 00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:48,258 so that's a lot of prying eyes. 583 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,400 I don't like the front entrance at all. 584 00:28:50,496 --> 00:28:52,296 It's basically in a large plaza. 585 00:28:52,398 --> 00:28:54,076 That tells me that there's a lot of eyes 586 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:55,966 that can watch this. 587 00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:57,968 In hopes of zeroing in on a location 588 00:28:58,070 --> 00:29:00,248 that could have been used as a Nazi headquarters 589 00:29:00,272 --> 00:29:01,739 in the Marshan neighborhood, 590 00:29:01,841 --> 00:29:05,008 their local contact has convinced Shamzi Mohammed, 591 00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:06,455 a lifetime resident of the area, 592 00:29:06,479 --> 00:29:08,278 to speak with them. 593 00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:11,715 - So with the known presence of all the spies here in Tangier, 594 00:29:11,817 --> 00:29:13,829 does he know if this building had any connection 595 00:29:13,853 --> 00:29:17,020 to that in any way, specifically the Nazi spies? 596 00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:26,029 - The period we are particularly interested in is 1945, 597 00:29:26,132 --> 00:29:30,467 'cause we're looking to find any signs of Germans, 598 00:29:30,569 --> 00:29:34,505 Nazis, escaping Europe, fleeing to Tangier. 599 00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:37,641 - Is there any specific location that he knows for sure 600 00:29:37,743 --> 00:29:40,010 or that was rumored to be a location 601 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:41,545 that the German spies 602 00:29:41,647 --> 00:29:44,648 would particularly use or operate out of in the area? 603 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:53,123 - Where is this? 604 00:29:56,896 --> 00:29:58,595 - We need to check that out. 605 00:29:58,697 --> 00:30:00,108 This is a very positive development 606 00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:01,698 in the investigation. 607 00:30:01,801 --> 00:30:03,311 Through our intelligence sources, we've been able 608 00:30:03,335 --> 00:30:04,535 to narrow this down 609 00:30:04,637 --> 00:30:06,548 from the entire city of Tangier, 610 00:30:06,572 --> 00:30:08,817 to a neighborhood, to a single street, Calle Imam Mouslim. 611 00:30:08,841 --> 00:30:10,252 If Martin Bormann's headquarters 612 00:30:10,276 --> 00:30:12,154 can be found somewhere in the city, 613 00:30:12,178 --> 00:30:15,679 thankfully our search grid has been significantly narrowed. 614 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,954 - Look, we have the team in Tangier. 615 00:30:24,056 --> 00:30:27,224 I think we should really run down the team in Argentina. 616 00:30:27,326 --> 00:30:28,692 With the investigation 617 00:30:28,794 --> 00:30:30,561 moving forward in Tangier, 618 00:30:30,663 --> 00:30:32,374 Bob and John review the team's findings 619 00:30:32,398 --> 00:30:34,064 in Buenos Aires, 620 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:36,900 where a bicycle factory once owned by Fritz Mandl, 621 00:30:37,002 --> 00:30:39,102 a suspected Nazi munitions dealer, 622 00:30:39,205 --> 00:30:43,240 returned positive results for explosive materials. 623 00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:46,243 - The forensic test produced results 624 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:48,245 showing numerous ingredients 625 00:30:48,347 --> 00:30:50,747 of various types of explosives, 626 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:52,683 including TNT. 627 00:30:52,785 --> 00:30:54,184 That's a heavy discovery, 628 00:30:54,286 --> 00:30:56,364 because those ingredients aren't necessarily the type 629 00:30:56,388 --> 00:30:57,821 that are being used now, 630 00:30:57,923 --> 00:31:00,858 but they were during the Second World War. 631 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,594 - There's only one way that Mandl 632 00:31:03,696 --> 00:31:05,729 could set up a munitions factory 633 00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:07,264 in Buenos Aires, 634 00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:09,144 and that's with the support of the government. 635 00:31:09,168 --> 00:31:10,779 You simply can't do it on your own. 636 00:31:10,803 --> 00:31:12,302 - It's interesting that you say that. 637 00:31:12,404 --> 00:31:14,304 Something that is quite interesting 638 00:31:14,406 --> 00:31:15,873 is this man right here 639 00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:19,977 by the name of Jorge Silvio Colotto. 640 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:24,915 Colotto was Juan Per贸n's aide de camp, 641 00:31:25,017 --> 00:31:27,017 his right hand man, the same way Bormann 642 00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,286 was to Adolf Hitler. 643 00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:33,056 What we've uncovered is the last known 644 00:31:33,158 --> 00:31:36,593 videotaped interview of Colotto. 645 00:31:36,695 --> 00:31:39,630 Colotto also puts the caveat in here 646 00:31:39,732 --> 00:31:41,598 that he doesn't want this interview 647 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:42,966 to be disclosed to the public 648 00:31:43,068 --> 00:31:46,670 or to anybody else until after he dies. 649 00:31:46,772 --> 00:31:49,673 We are the first to delve into this tape. 650 00:31:49,775 --> 00:31:52,676 He says that in 1945, 651 00:31:52,778 --> 00:31:54,778 after the end of the Second World War, 652 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,015 there was a meeting between Juan Per贸n, 653 00:31:58,117 --> 00:32:00,050 the president of Argentina, 654 00:32:00,152 --> 00:32:03,353 and Martin Bormann in Buenos Aires. 655 00:32:03,455 --> 00:32:05,767 - And this guy isn't just anybody. 656 00:32:05,791 --> 00:32:08,992 I mean, he is in Per贸n's office, a trusted aide. 657 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:10,761 Jorge Colotto is important 658 00:32:10,863 --> 00:32:14,164 because all along we have been looking for witnesses. 659 00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:17,868 This guy was there, saw the way stuff went down, 660 00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:21,038 and this is the closest you're gonna get 661 00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:23,251 to a human source describing this relationship 662 00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:25,742 between Per贸n and the Nazis. 663 00:32:25,844 --> 00:32:27,177 - So let's look at the interview. 664 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,314 Let's subject it to some forensic analysis. 665 00:32:30,416 --> 00:32:32,816 Let's see if he's telling the truth. 666 00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:35,619 Bob and John are joined by Al Brooks. 667 00:32:35,721 --> 00:32:38,221 His state-of-the-art CVSA technology 668 00:32:38,324 --> 00:32:39,923 measures minute changes 669 00:32:40,025 --> 00:32:41,970 in a person's vocal chords to uncover 670 00:32:41,994 --> 00:32:43,593 if they're telling the truth. 671 00:32:43,696 --> 00:32:45,295 - Traditionally speaking, 672 00:32:45,397 --> 00:32:49,199 an individual that might be lying is under stress. 673 00:32:49,301 --> 00:32:52,302 The Computer Voice Stress Analyzer technology 674 00:32:52,404 --> 00:32:56,573 will identify that via the microtremors in the voice. 675 00:32:56,675 --> 00:33:00,811 The more stress, the more the microtremors are tight, 676 00:33:00,913 --> 00:33:04,281 and they're depicted on the screen as a deceptive pattern. 677 00:33:04,383 --> 00:33:05,882 - The polygraph... 678 00:33:05,985 --> 00:33:08,218 I've seen people beat it over and over again. 679 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,521 Voice stress analysis, not so much. 680 00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:14,958 - Let's look at the video. 681 00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:07,978 - What we'll do now is grab the audio 682 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,948 off of the bottom, and using the software, 683 00:34:12,051 --> 00:34:15,519 capture those voice patterns and put them on the screen. 684 00:34:15,621 --> 00:34:17,587 The relevant question was... 685 00:34:17,689 --> 00:34:20,123 Did Per贸n actually have a meeting 686 00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:23,560 with the Nazi, Martin Bormann? 687 00:34:23,662 --> 00:34:25,729 So based on these patterns, 688 00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:30,133 the results of the audio are truthful. 689 00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:35,839 - You'd take this to the bank? 690 00:34:35,941 --> 00:34:37,307 - The results are the results. 691 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,544 - This is huge. We've got munitions. 692 00:34:40,646 --> 00:34:42,813 We've got thousands and thousands 693 00:34:42,915 --> 00:34:46,216 of Nazi war criminals living in Argentina, 694 00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:48,752 and now we've got government support. 695 00:34:48,854 --> 00:34:51,855 We have Bormann meeting with the president of Argentina, 696 00:34:51,957 --> 00:34:55,559 and you have this talk of a Fourth Reich. 697 00:34:55,661 --> 00:35:00,130 All of the evidence is pointing to that there was a plan afoot 698 00:35:00,232 --> 00:35:02,165 to establish the Fourth Reich 699 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:03,834 and base it in Argentina. 700 00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:07,003 - The evidence is getting stronger and stronger. 701 00:35:07,106 --> 00:35:09,739 - The deeper we get into a Fourth Reich in Argentina, 702 00:35:09,842 --> 00:35:12,309 the more I'm convinced. 703 00:35:22,287 --> 00:35:25,122 So we narrowed it down to here. 704 00:35:25,224 --> 00:35:26,990 In Tangier, Morocco, 705 00:35:27,092 --> 00:35:29,003 James Holland and Mike Simpson 706 00:35:29,027 --> 00:35:32,762 head for the street known as Calle Imam Mouslim, 707 00:35:32,865 --> 00:35:36,133 which could be the location of Martin Bormann's headquarters 708 00:35:36,235 --> 00:35:38,168 to plan a Nazi Fourth Reich, 709 00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:42,072 as reported by a declassified MI6 file. 710 00:35:42,174 --> 00:35:44,174 - If Bormann's gonna set up a headquarters, 711 00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:47,677 he wants security and communications. 712 00:35:47,779 --> 00:35:49,913 You want to keep those leaders safe. 713 00:35:50,015 --> 00:35:51,926 Through our intelligence sources, 714 00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:54,062 we've been able to narrow the location of Martin Bormann's 715 00:35:54,086 --> 00:35:55,685 potential headquarters down 716 00:35:55,787 --> 00:35:57,298 from the entire city of Tangier, 717 00:35:57,322 --> 00:36:00,824 to a neighborhood, and finally to a street. 718 00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:03,238 The next step is for me to get up on the high ground, 719 00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:06,429 and I want to see what I can see in the neighborhood. 720 00:36:17,276 --> 00:36:18,842 Hello. 721 00:36:18,944 --> 00:36:21,645 See this white structure right there? 722 00:36:21,747 --> 00:36:25,015 Just to the right of it, 723 00:36:25,117 --> 00:36:27,584 does that look like an antenna to you? 724 00:36:27,686 --> 00:36:28,846 - And an old one at that. 725 00:36:28,887 --> 00:36:31,054 - That's not a TV antenna. 726 00:36:31,156 --> 00:36:34,424 That's not a hobby radio operator antenna. 727 00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:36,893 That looks military grade. 728 00:36:36,995 --> 00:36:38,495 - Do you think that's it? 729 00:36:38,597 --> 00:36:40,063 - It's definitely number one 730 00:36:40,165 --> 00:36:42,499 on our priority list right now to check out. 731 00:36:42,601 --> 00:36:43,778 Going into this street to actually conduct 732 00:36:43,802 --> 00:36:45,602 a ground reconnaissance, 733 00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:47,515 something that's just a little bit out of place, 734 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,150 anything that's just a little bit different... 735 00:36:49,174 --> 00:36:53,610 All these little clues are what I have been trained to look for. 736 00:36:56,582 --> 00:37:00,650 Oh, look at this. 737 00:37:00,752 --> 00:37:01,918 - Yeah. 738 00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:04,788 - It connects right to the house. 739 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,123 Look how thick that concrete is! 740 00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:09,893 - Yeah. - That's ridiculously thick. 741 00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:12,495 That's like a defensive position; it really is. 742 00:37:12,598 --> 00:37:13,797 Two things that Bormann 743 00:37:13,899 --> 00:37:15,510 would have to have for a headquarters: 744 00:37:15,534 --> 00:37:17,834 security and communications. 745 00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:19,736 Both of them are right there. 746 00:37:19,838 --> 00:37:23,840 It's literally like he built it to withstand an attack. 747 00:37:23,942 --> 00:37:26,409 - You know, this place has got a tower, 748 00:37:26,511 --> 00:37:27,689 and it's just such an oddity. 749 00:37:27,713 --> 00:37:29,179 It looks so incongruous 750 00:37:29,281 --> 00:37:31,881 compared to all the other buildings on that street. 751 00:37:31,984 --> 00:37:34,884 All the kind of construct, the way it was put together, 752 00:37:34,987 --> 00:37:39,756 absolutely reminded me of a German bunker. 753 00:37:39,858 --> 00:37:41,458 They approach the front gate, 754 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,600 hoping to gain entry into the home. 755 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:50,634 - Hola. - Hola. 756 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,010 - No. - She's saying no. 757 00:38:07,052 --> 00:38:10,153 - We're really sorry, but just for a minute? 758 00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:11,955 - Yeah. 759 00:38:23,969 --> 00:38:25,929 - What year did you move in here? 760 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:30,166 - You don't have any idea who the original owner was? 761 00:38:39,685 --> 00:38:42,552 - The German built the tower? 762 00:38:45,157 --> 00:38:46,868 - This German not only built the tower, 763 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:48,558 but also in the bathroom, 764 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:51,428 in the basement... Like, exits a ways. 765 00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:53,107 - A ways, a ways to exit. - Passages, yeah. 766 00:38:53,131 --> 00:38:54,631 - Oh, my goodness. 767 00:38:56,868 --> 00:38:59,936 - The original owner, he left very quick and very fast, 768 00:39:00,038 --> 00:39:01,805 so he sell it to someone else. 769 00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,776 - Is there any chance 770 00:39:06,878 --> 00:39:08,878 we could have a look in the house as well? 771 00:39:13,185 --> 00:39:14,584 - Well, that you are here... 772 00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:36,373 - So there's a small compartment connect to all the house. 773 00:39:36,475 --> 00:39:40,343 Through this tunnel, you can go to every room in this house. 774 00:39:40,445 --> 00:39:42,605 - Well, I'd love to see where it comes out. 775 00:39:50,555 --> 00:39:53,356 - Oh, my goodness me. 776 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,194 So much space up here. 777 00:39:58,296 --> 00:40:00,563 You could definitely hide up here. 778 00:40:00,665 --> 00:40:01,831 You get up into the loft, 779 00:40:01,933 --> 00:40:03,633 and then you can go out a different route. 780 00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:06,836 It's got a number of little ways in and out. 781 00:40:06,938 --> 00:40:10,140 Feels like a house with secrets, I have to say. 782 00:40:10,242 --> 00:40:13,209 - Oh, and it gets even better. 783 00:40:13,311 --> 00:40:15,445 I mean, this is like a fortification here, 784 00:40:15,547 --> 00:40:18,281 what I'm looking at. 785 00:40:18,383 --> 00:40:20,461 Somebody put a lot of thought into this. 786 00:40:20,485 --> 00:40:23,720 This is really impressive. 787 00:40:23,822 --> 00:40:26,289 So the ocean's right that way. 788 00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:28,569 All this is new. None of these houses were here. 789 00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:29,971 None of these buildings were here. 790 00:40:29,995 --> 00:40:32,128 So these were just two mountainsides, 791 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:34,497 and you could see right between the two of them 792 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,733 into the open ocean right there. 793 00:40:36,835 --> 00:40:40,870 A U-boat could surface right out there just off the coast. 794 00:40:40,972 --> 00:40:42,850 And I put this antenna up high enough, 795 00:40:42,874 --> 00:40:45,675 I can go all the way out to where they are. 796 00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:48,678 This has all the markings of a military command center. 797 00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:53,216 Martin Bormann can control his finances. 798 00:40:53,318 --> 00:40:55,251 He can control personnel, 799 00:40:55,353 --> 00:40:57,620 arms, ammunition, supply lines... 800 00:40:57,722 --> 00:41:00,190 All from right here. 801 00:41:00,292 --> 00:41:02,537 If the Nazis had a headquarters for the Fourth Reich, 802 00:41:02,561 --> 00:41:03,726 it's here. 803 00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:13,503 - This map depicts a plan to bomb the United States, 804 00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:16,506 and more specifically, Manhattan Island. 805 00:41:16,608 --> 00:41:17,774 - This is chilling. 806 00:41:17,876 --> 00:41:19,509 There's no reason to believe the Nazis 807 00:41:19,611 --> 00:41:23,680 would not entertain a weapon of mass destruction. 808 00:41:23,782 --> 00:41:26,683 - We need to know everything about a Nazi scientist 809 00:41:26,785 --> 00:41:29,819 called Dr. Richter. 810 00:41:29,921 --> 00:41:32,222 - He got himself an island? 811 00:41:32,324 --> 00:41:33,756 - It's this way. Come. 812 00:41:33,859 --> 00:41:35,758 - Oh, my God. 813 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,468 - This is to prevent radiation from escaping. 814 00:41:45,570 --> 00:41:47,203 That's how close they were. 815 00:41:47,305 --> 00:41:49,739 - Hitler would dream of New York in flames, 816 00:41:49,841 --> 00:41:51,741 and a new Fourth Reich. 817 00:41:51,843 --> 00:41:55,612 And it seems to be coming together, here, in Bariloche. 818 00:41:55,636 --> 00:41:58,636 Subtitles Diego Moraes www.oakisland.tk 61934

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