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This could be what they call
a skinwalker den.
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What's that sound?
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Rockslide!
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Go, go, go!
Oh, my God.
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Here we go!
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On this episode of
"Expedition X."
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Look, look, look, look, look!
Oh my God!
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My team heads into the heart
of the Navajo Nation.
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We are in enemy territory now.
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Investigating shocking reports
of a shape-shifting evil
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lurking in the darkness.
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I gotta get over there.
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What was that?
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The infamous skinwalker.
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I was petrified.
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- My heart stopped.
- He's right there.
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He's watching us.
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Phil and Heather will learn
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the lore of this ancient horror.
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Skinwalkers are truly evil.
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But also discover that when
hunting the skinwalker,
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you have to put your own skin
on the line.
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Whoa!
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Let's go, let's go!
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Something is out here.
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All right, guys, so I have
a video to show you today,
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and it is...
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Well, it's weird.
Check it out.
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I want you to look back here
near this fence line.
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- You ready?
- Mm-hmm.
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Something there,
there, and then...
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- What?
- Whoa, what is that?
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Here we go, we're going to
look at it again.
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We see it, we see it,
it's running by, and then...
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I mean, it looks
like an animal.
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- Yes.
- But then...
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It changes shape and jumps
off the screen.
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Yes, exactly.
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This was captured by a Navajo
family on their ranch at
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the reservation in New Mexico.
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And they believe this is
evidence of a skinwalker.
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Ooh, skinwalkers.
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I've always wanted to
investigate skinwalkers.
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Heather, be careful what
you wish for.
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Skinwalkers are a sacred
legend to the Navajo.
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In modern culture,
they're sometimes thought of
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like cryptids, as though
they're some sort of creature.
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Some people treat them like
spirits or entities.
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In the original Navajo lore,
they're seen as humans with
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dark supernatural powers,
specifically a terrifying
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ability to shape-shift.
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Encounters with skinwalkers
have been recorded for
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generations in
the Navajo Nation.
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Those sightings continue to
this day.
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And this family here,
they are not alone,
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because those sightings are
on the rise.
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You could make the argument
that the skinwalker
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is the most feared monster
in all of America.
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This strange,
shape-shifting evil,
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sometimes humanoid,
sometimes a beast,
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has fueled our nightmares
for decades.
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But it is here, in the sacred
lands of the Navajo Nation,
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that the dark legend
first began.
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Established in 1898,
the Navajo Nation
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is the largest
Native American reservation
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in the United States,
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spanning more
than 27,000 square miles across
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Arizona, Utah, and New Mexico.
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Surrounded by
four mountains,
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the Navajo people
believe that
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all land within
these boundaries
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is spiritually protected.
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And this protection is vital
because of
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the dreaded skinwalker.
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Traditionally known
as yee naldlooshii,
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these mysterious monsters are
rarely discussed with outsiders
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because there's a fear that
simply speaking of them
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will incur their wrath.
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The Navajo lore that has been
passed on says skinwalkers are
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evil witches or corrupt
medicine men who have
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sacrificed those closest to them
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in exchange for dark powers,
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supernatural speed,
and the ability to shapeshift
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into animals like
wolves or coyotes.
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According to Navajo stories,
the skinwalker's goal is to
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inflict harm, illness,
and misfortune on others,
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using sinister magical
curses to attack
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and even kill their victims.
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And now reported encounters
with skinwalkers across
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the Navajo Nation are
on the rise,
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particularly in the remote
corner of the reservation in
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northwestern New Mexico.
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A recent eyewitness describes
a human-like creature
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impossibly running alongside
a speeding bus.
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Meanwhile, many others
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regularly report hearing
strange whistling
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and blood-curdling screams
after dark.
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And now, a Navajo family
believes they are being hunted
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by the skinwalker and think
they captured it on video.
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The skinwalker story captivates
us all, but what's the truth
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behind the legend?
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Is this evil
really out there today,
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stalking the Navajo Nation?
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So, what do you think?
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Well, I should start by saying
I did have my own very
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memorable experience, not far
from the Navajo Nation in
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Utah's Uinta Valley.
- That's right.
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- What you saw from the vehicle.
- Yes.
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That looked like they had
fur on them.
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Skinwalker?
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I don't know what it was,
but I can confirm that
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the thought of that thing still
freaks me out to this day.
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And with this new footage,
I mean, it is equally
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compelling, but just as easily
could be misidentified.
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I mean, maybe it's a cloud.
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Maybe it's a refraction
of the lens.
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A cloud?
I have never seen
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a cloud two feet off the ground
moving like that.
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So what, you think it's all
smoke and mirrors?
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No, I'm not saying
it's a hoax, and these stories
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do go back centuries.
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And sure, there could be some
mystery out there.
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I'm just not certain this
footage proves it.
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Heather?
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Well, maybe it's more than
just stories.
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I mean, what do we know?
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Think about how famous this
legend is.
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This story has legs,
and the Navajo have been here
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a heck of a lot longer than us.
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So, who are we to say if
a skinwalker is real or not
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until we go and investigate
it ourselves?
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Exactly, and that's
the mission.
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I want you to go
to the Navajo Nation,
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I want you to meet
with this family,
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interrogate this video,
see if you can figure out
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what's going on here,
and see if you can find
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real evidence to substantiate
this terrifying legend.
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Ooh, I can't wait.
I hope we see a skinwalker.
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Ooh, I hope we don't.
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Well, good luck, stay safe,
and happy hunting.
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We're on it.
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It's a five-hour flight
from New York
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to Albuquerque, New Mexico,
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and then several hours' drive
to reach the border
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of the Navajo Nation.
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All right, Phil.
You know what road we're
driving on?
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- We're on Route 491.
- Absolutely not.
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This road used to be called
Highway 666.
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- No way.
- I know.
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It's true.
And it lived up to its name.
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Disappearances, fatalities,
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all sorts
of strange occurrences.
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So much so that they actually
called it the Devil's Highway.
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- Wow.
- Yep.
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So they had to rename it.
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Yeah, I guess, you know,
Route 491 sounds
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a lot less sinister.
- Yeah.
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But you got to admit, this is
the perfect road
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to lead us to our destination.
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We are now in
the Navajo Nation.
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Phil and I head west across
the reservation to meet
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the family who shared
their shocking video of
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a supposed skinwalker
with Gates.
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- Hi.
- Hello.
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- Brenda and Ryan?
- Yes.
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- Hi, good to meet
you guys, Phil.
- Nice to meet you.
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- Phil.
- Nice to meet you.
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Nice to meet you.
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Mother and son Brenda
and Ryan Harris grew up on
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the reservation and believe
a skinwalker is
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stalking their home.
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We have seen this
extraordinary video.
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That is why we are here.
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So how did it all start
for you?
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My son and his cousin were
outside playing late at night,
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and they just happened to look
down, and they came
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across this big footprint there.
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- That's what they found outside
in the back.
- Huh.
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- Whoa.
- How big was this?
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It's a little over
18 inches long.
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- 18 inches long?
- That's huge.
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That's definitely unusual
marking in the ground there.
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What did you think could have
left a footprint like that?
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I didn't know what it was.
I wanted to find out.
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So a week later, I bought
a video camera.
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And I told her, I was like,
"Let's see
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if we catch anything."
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I remember we were
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fast-forwarding through all
of it.
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- And then I saw the thing.
- Were you afraid?
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I was,
because we're just scared.
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Like, why is it here?
We don't know.
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So that's when I took
the footage
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and showed it to my dad.
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And right off the bat,
he knew what it was.
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- He goes, "That's a skinwalker."
- Without a doubt.
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- Without a doubt.
- I mean,
that's terrifying.
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Not only that, when I was
taking out the trash, I saw it.
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What do you mean you saw it?
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So I climbed up on the ladder.
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Then I met eye-to-eye with it.
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And it was just standing there,
looking at me.
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You're saying you came
face-to-face with a skinwalker?
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- Mm-hmm.
- What happened?
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- It blackened itself.
- Oh.
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It took the form of a beast,
and then it formed
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into the wind.
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It scared me.
I was petrified.
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I don't know how to explain it,
but my heart stopped.
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- Hm.
- I'll never forget it.
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So we're talking about
something that started physical
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and then perhaps moved into
the spiritual world?
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Possibly.
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It's hard to pinpoint exactly
what form
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the skinwalker will take.
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They're the ones that pick what
they want to manifest into.
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So it could be a wolf,
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it could be a coyote,
it could be a bear.
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I believe they're dangerous.
You know, they can hurt you.
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All I ask is that you guys
don't whistle around here.
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- Yeah, don't whistle.
- Why not whistle?
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In the Native culture,
you don't ever whistle at night
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because you're inviting them to
come, and they may come out
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when you're not even ready.
So don't whistle.
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- Well, that's creepy.
- Yeah, terrifying.
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All right, let's grab our gear
and get started.
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- Yeah.
- Thank you.
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- Thank you.
- Thank you, guys.
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You're welcome.
Thank you.
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Before we investigate
the Harris' property,
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I want to try and replicate
the placement and framing
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of Ryan's video camera.
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I've got some ideas about what
may have actually been captured
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and possibly misidentified.
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OK, let's see if we can
match it.
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- Really closely.
- I think that's
about right.
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OK.
So I've got this recording.
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Now, I wanna see if I can
debunk that video.
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Of course you do.
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- A fog machine?
- A fog machine.
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Now that's just
fogging ridiculous.
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You're on fire tonight,
you know?
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All right, what do you see
over there?
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- A road.
- A road.
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Now imagine there was a car
there that
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suddenly accelerated.
What would it leave behind?
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- Exhaust.
- Yes.
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- All right, let's see it.
- Ready?
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- Yes, sir.
- OK.
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OK, so when it comes out in
those puffs,
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you almost had me.
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It really does look like
the start of that video.
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- But...
- But what?
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It doesn't turn into
a canine shape, Torres.
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It just dissipates
into nothing.
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And that video clearly showed
the clouds turning into
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a wolf-like creature
and jumping off.
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- Well, I'm out of theories.
- Well, it was a hot start.
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I gotta say, this one has got
me a little stumped.
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I couldn't find a logical
explanation for what was
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captured on the Harris' video
yet, so I'm leaving a camera
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running to record more data.
Who knows?
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Maybe it'll catch
something extraordinary.
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OK, leave this
thing recording.
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All right, whatever was in
that video,
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it was heading thataway--
that's where we gotta go.
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Agreed.
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The Harris property is right
next to an area of isolated
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wilderness that borders
the San Juan River.
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If any creature,
known or unknown, is out here,
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this wilderness might be
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the perfect place for it
to hide.
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So what's the plan?
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So I think we need to set up
some perimeters.
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I have these shotgun tripwires
that will let us know
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very loudly if something goes
over that string.
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We will know if something's
moving around here.
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OK, well, while you're doing
that physical tripwire,
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I want to set up
spiritual tripwires,
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because as our witness
just told us,
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not only are skinwalkers
a physical being,
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they can also be spiritual
as well.
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All right, well, then we'll
have our bases covered.
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And hey, do not forget,
there could be potentially
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mountain lions
and bears and coyotes.
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Skinwalkers.
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Right, very dangerous animals
out here.
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- Stay in walkie? OK.
- Copy that.
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To secure the perimeter,
I head north to set up
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a tripwire that will make
a sound on physical contact.
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All right.
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OK.
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Trap is set,
we got a live wire here.
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All right.
295
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Meanwhile, Heather activates
an EMF tripwire to the south.
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If I'm walking right
beside this.
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I'm not gonna set it off.
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You have to either touch it
with quite some pressure
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or something of the spiritual
realm has to interact with it.
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So if I get any hits on this
EMF tripwire, we know that
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whatever that creature was is
of the spiritual realm.
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So I've calibrated this where
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anything warm like me
will show up white.
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Everything else is looking
pretty red or yellow.
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00:14:03,467 --> 00:14:04,868
If there's any animals
out there,
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I'm hoping this can help me see
it before it sees me.
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OK, because we're looking for
animals, I'm gonna keep my eyes
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00:14:18,267 --> 00:14:21,501
out through night vision
binoculars, but also because
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we're looking for spirits,
I'm gonna keep one eye on my K2
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to see if I get any EMF hits.
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OK, tripwire is still solid.
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00:14:37,801 --> 00:14:40,901
Nothing on the binoculars yet.
K2 silent.
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But the dogs are barking.
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What was that?
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That was weird.
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That was like
a glowing orb, almost.
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00:15:02,868 --> 00:15:05,167
There's no bugs out here,
it's too cold.
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00:15:05,334 --> 00:15:08,267
It was not right in front
of the binoc-- .
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00:15:08,434 --> 00:15:09,367
What was that?
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00:15:18,601 --> 00:15:22,067
2
It was like this shape,
almost very similar to
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the start of that video,
but it appeared
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and disappeared so quickly.
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00:15:27,567 --> 00:15:28,701
I don't know what that was.
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Something was definitely there.
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And like, I'm not alone.
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I do not see anything
on the FLIR.
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Skinwalker, skinwalker,
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00:15:58,234 --> 00:15:59,167
where are you?
329
00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,267
OK, so our witnesses told us
not to whistle on
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their property, but we are far
from their property.
331
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We are closer to the river.
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I just wonder what's going to
happen if I whistle.
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00:16:28,767 --> 00:16:30,501
Did you hear that?
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00:16:33,968 --> 00:16:35,000
I just heard whistling back.
335
00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:41,300
Something just whistled back
at me.
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00:16:45,968 --> 00:16:47,767
Oh my God!
Right there!
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00:16:47,934 --> 00:16:49,200
Right there!
What is that?
338
00:16:56,467 --> 00:16:57,868
That was something big.
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00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,300
Whatever was back here,
I don't see it anymore.
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00:17:16,968 --> 00:17:18,267
The tripwire!
The tripwire!
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00:17:21,601 --> 00:17:23,067
Something just set
this tripwire off.
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00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,701
All of the others are OK.
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And it stopped.
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00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,467
Is there anyone there?
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There's nothing.
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00:17:38,267 --> 00:17:39,467
Nothing on the EMF,
347
00:17:40,667 --> 00:17:42,367
but something is out here.
348
00:17:44,701 --> 00:17:45,868
I'm gonna walkie Heather.
349
00:17:47,968 --> 00:17:48,968
Heather, you copy?
350
00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:51,100
Yeah, copy.
What's up?
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00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,367
You know how they said not
to whistle?
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00:17:54,467 --> 00:17:55,968
Phil?
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00:17:56,133 --> 00:17:58,968
But after I whistled, I got
a major hit on the FLIR,
354
00:17:59,133 --> 00:18:02,167
and it seemed like something
was whistling back at me.
355
00:18:02,334 --> 00:18:04,767
I'm telling you, Heather,
it's like something
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00:18:04,934 --> 00:18:05,933
is calling out to me.
357
00:18:05,934 --> 00:18:07,200
What you need to--
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00:18:07,367 --> 00:18:08,466
Whoa!
359
00:18:08,467 --> 00:18:10,267
That was a tripwire,
meet me over there!
360
00:18:10,434 --> 00:18:11,367
Let's go.
Let's go.
361
00:18:16,167 --> 00:18:17,968
Right here, right here.
362
00:18:18,133 --> 00:18:19,334
Where?
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00:18:21,801 --> 00:18:22,801
Do you see anything?
364
00:18:24,267 --> 00:18:25,267
No.
365
00:18:27,167 --> 00:18:28,901
Any tracks?
366
00:18:31,367 --> 00:18:34,200
Heather, I set the tripwire
high here.
367
00:18:34,367 --> 00:18:37,000
That means whatever it was had
to be massive.
368
00:18:37,167 --> 00:18:38,667
Whoa, over here.
Look, look, look.
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00:18:38,834 --> 00:18:40,299
- What?
- Come here, come here.
370
00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:42,167
- What, what, what?
- Right there, right there,
right there.
371
00:18:42,334 --> 00:18:43,667
There's something there.
Let's go.
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00:18:48,567 --> 00:18:49,567
Where is it?
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00:18:51,868 --> 00:18:53,167
- Oh! Look!
- What, what, what?
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00:18:53,334 --> 00:18:54,567
Look, look, look, look, look!
375
00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:55,868
What is that?
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00:18:56,033 --> 00:18:56,901
It's over by the river.
377
00:19:02,167 --> 00:19:03,167
Oh my God, it's big!
378
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,601
Oh my gosh!
379
00:19:06,767 --> 00:19:08,400
Look at that big spike,
big spike!
380
00:19:10,868 --> 00:19:12,767
I gotta get over there.
I gotta cross this river.
381
00:19:14,167 --> 00:19:15,601
OK, but be careful.
382
00:19:23,167 --> 00:19:24,801
EMF meter's quiet.
383
00:19:24,968 --> 00:19:26,968
It's like whatever
we were chasing
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00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:31,067
was both
physical and spiritual.
385
00:19:31,234 --> 00:19:33,167
I'm gonna look and see
if I can find any evidence
386
00:19:33,334 --> 00:19:34,868
of where this thing
might have crossed.
387
00:19:45,701 --> 00:19:48,367
I'm not seeing a thing
on the FLIR.
388
00:19:48,534 --> 00:19:51,000
Whatever it was,
it's long gone.
389
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000
But that was big.
390
00:19:55,467 --> 00:19:57,367
It must have been--
based on the FLIR it was
391
00:19:57,534 --> 00:19:59,667
maybe four or so feet tall.
392
00:19:59,834 --> 00:20:00,767
I mean huge!
393
00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:08,000
No tracks.
394
00:20:08,167 --> 00:20:09,100
Wait a second.
395
00:20:10,767 --> 00:20:12,868
Look at that.
Phil, I got something.
396
00:20:20,367 --> 00:20:21,400
2
You gotta get over here!
397
00:20:26,167 --> 00:20:28,868
- What'd you find?
- Check this out.
398
00:20:30,167 --> 00:20:34,167
Whoa, wow, look at that!
You found an animal hair!
399
00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:35,868
- Good eye!
- I know!
400
00:20:36,033 --> 00:20:38,100
What this is telling me
is that whatever
401
00:20:38,267 --> 00:20:40,000
we picked up across the river
402
00:20:40,167 --> 00:20:43,367
was a physical, living,
real animal.
403
00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:46,501
But remember, just because
it's a physical animal
404
00:20:46,667 --> 00:20:49,367
doesn't mean that
it's not a skinwalker.
405
00:20:49,534 --> 00:20:52,000
Whatever it is, I want to bag
this so we can test it
406
00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:53,467
and ID it.
- Copy that.
407
00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:01,267
All right, got something.
408
00:21:01,434 --> 00:21:02,601
What I don't get is,
409
00:21:02,767 --> 00:21:05,367
whatever we have been chasing
all night long,
410
00:21:06,467 --> 00:21:07,634
why did it lead us here?
411
00:21:07,801 --> 00:21:09,200
Why did it lead us to the water
and then disappear?
412
00:21:09,367 --> 00:21:10,501
I mean, what
413
00:21:11,567 --> 00:21:12,767
are we chasing?
414
00:21:12,934 --> 00:21:13,968
Where did it go?
415
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,501
And why did I decide
to whistle?
416
00:21:17,667 --> 00:21:20,300
Now that, Phil, is probably
the million-dollar question.
417
00:21:20,467 --> 00:21:23,367
- Let's keep going? OK.
- Yeah.
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00:21:25,801 --> 00:21:28,868
Before we leave the location,
I set up a trail camera along
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00:21:29,033 --> 00:21:31,100
the river's edge,
in case whatever
420
00:21:31,267 --> 00:21:33,033
we were chasing returns.
421
00:21:35,501 --> 00:21:36,501
Last night's investigation
422
00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:39,267
left us with more questions
than answers.
423
00:21:39,434 --> 00:21:42,300
So while Phil tracks down more
eyewitnesses, I want to explore
424
00:21:42,467 --> 00:21:44,767
the origins of
the skinwalker legend.
425
00:21:44,934 --> 00:21:47,400
I'm meeting with
Navajo historian Eugene Joe,
426
00:21:47,567 --> 00:21:50,100
who has agreed to do something
that rarely happens,
427
00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:53,067
share his tribe's ancestral
knowledge about skinwalkers
428
00:21:53,234 --> 00:21:54,667
with outsiders.
429
00:21:54,834 --> 00:21:56,400
I want to go all the way back.
430
00:21:56,567 --> 00:21:58,767
Can you tell me about
the history of skinwalkers?
431
00:21:58,934 --> 00:22:00,267
They call them
the Night Warriors.
432
00:22:01,901 --> 00:22:04,868
Tlee naabaahii is how
you say it in Navajo.
433
00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:09,100
They were given a power to
protect the sacred ways of
434
00:22:09,267 --> 00:22:12,100
the Navajo people,
but then something happened
435
00:22:12,267 --> 00:22:13,367
and there was a conflict.
436
00:22:13,534 --> 00:22:15,567
That's when the evil decided to
take over.
437
00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:19,767
So Night Warriors started out
good as protectors
438
00:22:19,934 --> 00:22:22,767
and then turned evil
and became skinwalkers.
439
00:22:22,934 --> 00:22:24,367
Yes.
440
00:22:24,534 --> 00:22:25,767
What do skinwalkers want?
441
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,100
They want to be more powerful.
442
00:22:29,667 --> 00:22:32,767
They like to channel
curses, hex,
443
00:22:33,868 --> 00:22:39,167
taboos on homes to
destroy a family.
444
00:22:39,334 --> 00:22:42,300
They don't want to see
you become wealthy.
445
00:22:42,467 --> 00:22:46,000
They want to see you fall,
because that in turn makes them
446
00:22:46,167 --> 00:22:48,267
feel like they have more power.
- Yes.
447
00:22:49,467 --> 00:22:51,267
I have a little drawing that
I did.
448
00:22:51,434 --> 00:22:54,100
They're just like ordinary
people, just like you and I.
449
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:56,399
And they...
450
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,100
They just paint their face for
night and for day protection.
451
00:23:00,267 --> 00:23:01,868
That was what it was for.
452
00:23:02,033 --> 00:23:05,000
So if we saw a skinwalker
today, it could have similar
453
00:23:05,167 --> 00:23:07,100
black and white face paint.
- Yes.
454
00:23:07,267 --> 00:23:10,100
A few years back, I was
face-to-face with one.
455
00:23:11,667 --> 00:23:13,300
It was a woman.
456
00:23:13,467 --> 00:23:16,501
Her face was black and white.
457
00:23:16,667 --> 00:23:18,767
I said, means,
"What do you want?"
458
00:23:19,968 --> 00:23:21,000
Don't bother me.
459
00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:23,267
If you're here for evil,
go away.
460
00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:25,300
She didn't know what to say.
461
00:23:26,501 --> 00:23:29,267
And covered her face.
And that was it.
462
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:33,467
- Were you afraid?
- I can't show my weakness.
463
00:23:33,634 --> 00:23:34,833
Hm.
464
00:23:34,834 --> 00:23:37,100
Because you spoke to this
skinwalker, you were able to
465
00:23:37,267 --> 00:23:38,467
protect yourself.
- Right.
466
00:23:38,634 --> 00:23:41,067
It's just like a mind game,
like a chess game.
467
00:23:41,234 --> 00:23:42,133
Right.
468
00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:44,267
When you show fear,
you're powerless.
469
00:23:48,701 --> 00:23:50,968
On the other side
of the reservation...
470
00:23:51,133 --> 00:23:52,299
Hey there!
471
00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,501
...I've connected with members
of the Navajo Nation,
472
00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:57,367
Frank Smith and Anthony Lee.
473
00:23:57,534 --> 00:24:01,267
They both believe they survived
terrifying encounters
474
00:24:01,434 --> 00:24:02,868
with the skinwalker.
475
00:24:03,033 --> 00:24:04,701
I gotta hear these stories.
476
00:24:04,868 --> 00:24:08,501
Recently, I was driving on one
of the roads here.
477
00:24:08,667 --> 00:24:13,400
About 10 feet away, I saw
something crossing the road.
478
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:19,400
It was just walking like a dog
would be walking on all fours,
479
00:24:19,567 --> 00:24:21,000
but it didn't look right.
480
00:24:22,067 --> 00:24:25,167
Could it have been a dog that
was maybe hit by a car
481
00:24:25,334 --> 00:24:27,167
and was injured?
482
00:24:27,334 --> 00:24:29,367
I don't think so,
because the face itself wasn't
483
00:24:29,534 --> 00:24:32,000
the face of a dog.
It had a human face.
484
00:24:32,167 --> 00:24:34,367
That sounds
absolutely terrifying.
485
00:24:34,534 --> 00:24:36,567
Yeah, it is, especially when
you're out there alone
486
00:24:36,734 --> 00:24:38,167
like that.
- What about you?
487
00:24:38,334 --> 00:24:39,533
Tell me your story.
488
00:24:39,534 --> 00:24:42,334
Couple months back, we're out
here scouting around...
489
00:24:44,801 --> 00:24:47,100
While I was there, I took
a photo of my niece.
490
00:24:48,567 --> 00:24:50,801
A couple days later, I was
going through the pictures,
491
00:24:50,968 --> 00:24:53,467
and I thought, hmm,
there's something not right
492
00:24:53,634 --> 00:24:54,567
about that picture.
493
00:24:55,968 --> 00:24:57,067
This is what I saw.
494
00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:01,667
Wow.
So that part is your niece.
495
00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:04,100
But then in the background,
there's that.
496
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,200
It's a skinwalker.
497
00:25:07,367 --> 00:25:08,701
Wow.
Creepy.
498
00:25:08,868 --> 00:25:11,767
- Yeah, you could see
the human face there.
- Yeah, yeah.
499
00:25:11,934 --> 00:25:16,100
I mean, it looks like a fur
hood and like skinny fur legs.
500
00:25:16,267 --> 00:25:17,567
Right.
501
00:25:17,734 --> 00:25:20,400
This looks like how people
describe a skinwalker.
502
00:25:20,567 --> 00:25:21,767
You must have been afraid?
503
00:25:21,934 --> 00:25:23,167
I had chills going down
my back.
504
00:25:30,868 --> 00:25:32,300
I have to wonder.
505
00:25:32,467 --> 00:25:35,000
We had this investigation
last night,
506
00:25:35,167 --> 00:25:37,868
and I kept feeling like
something was watching me.
507
00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:40,868
And I couldn't see anything.
508
00:25:41,033 --> 00:25:44,267
Before your very eyes, they can
disappear in front of you.
509
00:25:44,434 --> 00:25:47,667
See, they can vaporize
themselves in different ways.
510
00:25:47,834 --> 00:25:49,567
That's why if you're going
out there
511
00:25:49,734 --> 00:25:51,567
looking for a skinwalker...
- Mm-hmm.
512
00:25:51,734 --> 00:25:55,000
...have someone that will
understand how to protect you.
513
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,868
- So someone Navajo?
- Mm-hmm.
514
00:25:58,033 --> 00:26:01,901
Make sure they do a prayer for
you so that physically
515
00:26:02,067 --> 00:26:06,200
or mentally you will not be
disturbed by evil spirits.
516
00:26:06,367 --> 00:26:07,701
OK.
517
00:26:07,868 --> 00:26:09,767
- I've got someone in mind.
- Right?
518
00:26:09,934 --> 00:26:11,467
Thank you so much for
everything that you've shared
519
00:26:11,634 --> 00:26:13,801
with me-- I really, really
appreciate it.
520
00:26:13,968 --> 00:26:15,167
Never show fear.
521
00:26:16,167 --> 00:26:18,501
I'll try to be strong
and try not to be afraid.
522
00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:20,400
Don't try.
Do it.
523
00:26:20,567 --> 00:26:21,734
Yes, sir.
524
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,067
Is there any place that
you think that we should be
525
00:26:25,234 --> 00:26:29,367
focusing our investigation to
try to find evidence of what
526
00:26:29,534 --> 00:26:30,734
people are
calling a skinwalker?
527
00:26:30,901 --> 00:26:34,000
The hot spot that everybody
talks about is Ojo Canyon.
528
00:26:34,167 --> 00:26:37,467
The locals also refer to
Skinwalker Canyon.
529
00:26:37,634 --> 00:26:39,901
- It's known locally as
Skinwalker Canyon.
- Right.
530
00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:41,868
I'm guessing it got that name
for a reason.
531
00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:44,267
Yep-- if you are going to
the Skinwalker Canyon,
532
00:26:44,434 --> 00:26:46,000
be careful.
- OK.
533
00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:47,667
- I appreciate your time.
- OK.
534
00:26:49,701 --> 00:26:52,000
Heather and I meet back up
and begin our journey
535
00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:55,567
to Ojo Canyon,
aka Skinwalker Canyon,
536
00:26:55,734 --> 00:26:58,133
on the eastern edge of
the Navajo Nation.
537
00:27:00,667 --> 00:27:01,901
Based on everything that
you learned from
538
00:27:02,067 --> 00:27:04,868
your witnesses, I reached out to
my buddy, Shanclen,
539
00:27:05,033 --> 00:27:06,467
who I worked with in
Vulture City.
540
00:27:06,634 --> 00:27:08,300
He's Navajo and says
he's hunted
541
00:27:08,467 --> 00:27:09,467
these skinwalkers before.
542
00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:12,400
If there's any place were to
give you fear,
543
00:27:12,567 --> 00:27:13,767
this is the place.
- Mm.
544
00:27:13,934 --> 00:27:15,267
It's dangerous.
545
00:27:15,434 --> 00:27:17,000
Please be careful tonight.
546
00:27:17,167 --> 00:27:19,167
Based on what Eugene told me,
we need someone
547
00:27:19,334 --> 00:27:20,500
like Shanclen on our side.
548
00:27:20,501 --> 00:27:23,200
Hey, if this Skinwalker Canyon
lives up to its name,
549
00:27:23,367 --> 00:27:24,400
absolutely we do.
550
00:27:25,801 --> 00:27:26,901
- There's Shanclen.
- Oh yeah?
551
00:27:28,367 --> 00:27:29,868
Shanclen is a Navajo who knows
552
00:27:30,033 --> 00:27:32,501
the supposed Skinwalker Canyon
inside and out.
553
00:27:32,667 --> 00:27:35,100
His knowledge of the land
and its legends will be
554
00:27:35,267 --> 00:27:37,367
critical to our investigation.
555
00:27:37,534 --> 00:27:38,667
Have you ever had any
encounters with
556
00:27:38,834 --> 00:27:40,167
the skinwalkers yourself?
557
00:27:40,334 --> 00:27:43,000
I could go all day about
skinwalkers I've encountered.
558
00:27:43,167 --> 00:27:45,801
- Or I could just show you guys.
- Show us.
559
00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:49,367
So, these photos were taken
recently in a cave not too far
560
00:27:49,534 --> 00:27:52,367
away from where I live.
- Oh my god.
561
00:27:52,534 --> 00:27:53,901
White and black face paint.
562
00:27:54,067 --> 00:27:55,901
That is exactly what
my witness said
563
00:27:56,067 --> 00:27:57,133
a skinwalker could look like.
564
00:27:59,267 --> 00:28:00,868
So those photos
were taken recently
565
00:28:01,033 --> 00:28:02,367
with a disposable camera.
566
00:28:02,534 --> 00:28:04,300
Pretty common for these beings
to be able to show up
567
00:28:04,467 --> 00:28:05,801
on film cameras.
568
00:28:05,968 --> 00:28:07,667
So, I went ahead and brought
some tonight for us when we go
569
00:28:07,834 --> 00:28:09,868
investigate these beings.
- That's a great idea.
570
00:28:10,033 --> 00:28:11,801
So, where can skinwalkers
be found?
571
00:28:11,968 --> 00:28:13,701
- In caves.
- Why caves?
572
00:28:13,868 --> 00:28:17,400
Caves is cover
from spiritual people
573
00:28:17,567 --> 00:28:19,267
and the elements themselves.
574
00:28:19,434 --> 00:28:22,367
They get to be able to hide
inside of those caves and do
575
00:28:22,534 --> 00:28:23,868
ungodly things in there.
576
00:28:24,033 --> 00:28:26,367
I got to warn you guys that
skinwalkers are truly evil.
577
00:28:26,534 --> 00:28:28,701
When it comes to their craft
and what they want to do,
578
00:28:28,868 --> 00:28:31,067
they can kill somebody
if they wanted to.
579
00:28:31,234 --> 00:28:34,968
Skinwalkers are very dangerous
here on the reservation.
580
00:28:35,133 --> 00:28:36,467
So, I'm glad you reached out
to me.
581
00:28:36,634 --> 00:28:37,567
Let's head to the canyon.
582
00:28:41,868 --> 00:28:43,300
Here we go!
583
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,300
This is the entrance into
Skinwalker Canyon right here.
584
00:28:52,801 --> 00:28:53,868
Let's be extra careful,
585
00:28:54,033 --> 00:28:55,667
because we are in enemy
territory now.
586
00:29:02,968 --> 00:29:05,367
2
So, this is as far as we go
with these ponies.
587
00:29:05,534 --> 00:29:06,901
Rest of the way, we're gonna go
ahead on foot.
588
00:29:10,567 --> 00:29:12,767
Before we set out, Shanclen
performs a traditional
589
00:29:12,934 --> 00:29:14,767
Navajo blessing to help
protect us
590
00:29:14,934 --> 00:29:17,000
from any evil forces
we may encounter.
591
00:29:18,467 --> 00:29:20,801
Ancient deity, ancient
being of protection,
592
00:29:22,467 --> 00:29:26,000
I pray to you that you can
create some beautiful ash for us
593
00:29:26,167 --> 00:29:27,567
to protect us tonight.
594
00:29:29,868 --> 00:29:33,033
The fire heard your prayer.
This is going to protect you.
595
00:29:35,501 --> 00:29:37,667
This threat that we're facing
tonight is very real.
596
00:29:37,834 --> 00:29:39,400
So, you never know whether
you're going to get
597
00:29:39,567 --> 00:29:41,767
the physical or spiritual side.
598
00:29:46,267 --> 00:29:48,267
We've got our protection.
Let's gear up.
599
00:29:48,434 --> 00:29:49,767
- See what we can find out here.
- Let's do this.
600
00:29:55,601 --> 00:30:00,000
- It's so quiet.
- Yeah.
601
00:30:00,167 --> 00:30:02,467
Like how I mentioned before,
sometimes these skinwalkers
602
00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:05,200
can be caught on film
and camera.
603
00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:09,868
Let's go ahead and snap some
photos to see if we can capture
604
00:30:10,033 --> 00:30:11,868
any skinwalkers on it.
- All right.
605
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,167
Skinwalker.
606
00:30:17,267 --> 00:30:19,767
What a nostalgic way
to capture pure evil.
607
00:30:22,167 --> 00:30:25,767
There are so many hiding spots
608
00:30:25,934 --> 00:30:28,567
for something to be watching us
right now.
609
00:30:31,868 --> 00:30:33,200
Look!
Look down here.
610
00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:34,567
Look at this.
611
00:30:34,734 --> 00:30:36,300
Look at this.
612
00:30:36,467 --> 00:30:38,400
It's gotta be coyote.
Look at that.
613
00:30:39,767 --> 00:30:41,167
A lot of coyote tracks.
614
00:30:42,767 --> 00:30:45,167
People think, oh,
it's just a normal coyote pack.
615
00:30:45,334 --> 00:30:47,100
But that's just what they want
you to think.
616
00:30:48,667 --> 00:30:52,901
Well, if you're saying there
could be a skinwalker hidden
617
00:30:53,067 --> 00:30:56,701
amongst a coyote pack, I say
we follow these tracks.
618
00:30:56,868 --> 00:30:59,067
Absolutely, but let's keep
our heads on a swivel.
619
00:30:59,234 --> 00:31:00,167
I'm gonna go right.
620
00:31:08,267 --> 00:31:09,467
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
621
00:31:11,267 --> 00:31:13,968
What was that?
Heather, get over here.
622
00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:15,200
What's going on?
623
00:31:15,367 --> 00:31:16,400
This rock...
624
00:31:17,467 --> 00:31:19,901
nearly hit me as I was walking
through here.
625
00:31:20,067 --> 00:31:21,767
What do you mean
it nearly hit you?
626
00:31:21,934 --> 00:31:24,667
Yeah, I heard some movement,
looked up,
627
00:31:24,834 --> 00:31:26,267
this thing was flying down.
628
00:31:26,434 --> 00:31:27,868
I think there's something
up there.
629
00:31:28,033 --> 00:31:29,100
- Let's fly.
- Right.
630
00:31:31,167 --> 00:31:33,567
If something is hiding in
this vast canyon,
631
00:31:33,734 --> 00:31:36,868
the best way to find it is to
get eyes in the sky.
632
00:31:37,033 --> 00:31:38,367
I'm monitoring my thermal drone
633
00:31:38,534 --> 00:31:40,567
to search for anything physical,
634
00:31:40,734 --> 00:31:43,167
while Heather claims
her EMF drone will scan
635
00:31:43,334 --> 00:31:44,467
for anything spiritual.
636
00:31:49,267 --> 00:31:51,267
This arrow shows
the drone's location.
637
00:31:51,434 --> 00:31:54,167
If there's anyone out there,
you can show up
638
00:31:54,334 --> 00:31:57,934
on my EMF drone,
show up on Phil's drone.
639
00:32:00,467 --> 00:32:01,868
Make yourself known to us.
640
00:32:02,033 --> 00:32:03,968
Oh.
641
00:32:04,133 --> 00:32:05,167
- What was that?
- Did you hear that?
642
00:32:05,334 --> 00:32:06,501
- Was that a whistle?
- Yeah.
643
00:32:08,968 --> 00:32:09,968
Coming from that direction.
644
00:32:11,167 --> 00:32:12,501
That was definitely a whistle.
645
00:32:14,033 --> 00:32:15,501
- Oh.
- What was that?
646
00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:16,701
Do you want our attention?
647
00:32:19,767 --> 00:32:22,167
- Ooh!
- Whoa!
648
00:32:23,968 --> 00:32:25,400
Look, there's two of 'em.
649
00:32:25,567 --> 00:32:27,767
Three! Four!
650
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,067
It's right behind us.
651
00:32:30,234 --> 00:32:31,734
It's still hanging there.
652
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,300
- Right?
- Yeah.
653
00:32:35,467 --> 00:32:37,367
This is a clear
cluster of anomalies.
654
00:32:37,534 --> 00:32:39,901
- We have to get over there.
- Let's go.
655
00:32:42,367 --> 00:32:45,100
Those anomalies were
right around here.
656
00:32:45,267 --> 00:32:47,367
- It's gotta be close.
- All right,
let's split up.
657
00:32:47,534 --> 00:32:49,000
- Heather, you take right.
Shanclen, left.
- OK.
658
00:32:49,167 --> 00:32:50,501
- Let's do this.
- I'll head up here.
659
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,567
Is that what I think it is?
660
00:32:59,267 --> 00:33:00,868
Heather!
661
00:33:01,033 --> 00:33:02,467
I think I found a cave!
662
00:33:02,634 --> 00:33:04,000
- A cave?
- Yeah.
663
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,801
This very well could
be an entrance into
664
00:33:11,968 --> 00:33:13,300
a skinwalker cave.
665
00:33:13,467 --> 00:33:14,767
- Everybody ready
to go in?
- Yeah.
666
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,267
Whoa.
667
00:33:22,267 --> 00:33:23,667
- Ooh.
- Whoa.
668
00:33:27,634 --> 00:33:28,667
What is that?
669
00:33:28,834 --> 00:33:30,367
Whatever you do, don't
touch it.
670
00:33:30,534 --> 00:33:31,934
Why?
671
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,968
This right here looks like
a skinwalker curse bundle.
672
00:33:34,133 --> 00:33:36,100
What, is that used to
curse someone?
673
00:33:36,267 --> 00:33:38,167
- Yes.
- How can you tell?
674
00:33:38,334 --> 00:33:40,267
Well, normally, if they wanted
to be able to witch
675
00:33:40,434 --> 00:33:42,267
and curse somebody,
they'd take the hair
676
00:33:42,434 --> 00:33:44,501
or personal belonging
or clothing.
677
00:33:44,667 --> 00:33:46,300
Right there.
That's a hair.
678
00:33:46,467 --> 00:33:49,367
So, you're telling me that
whoever's gray hair that is,
679
00:33:50,467 --> 00:33:55,100
a skinwalker got that hair
and made this?
680
00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:56,399
Yes.
681
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,367
Skinwalkers, they use these
things to make family,
682
00:33:59,534 --> 00:34:04,100
loved ones sick, bring bad
luck, and all of the above.
683
00:34:04,267 --> 00:34:08,000
This is, in your mind,
clear evidence of essentially
684
00:34:08,167 --> 00:34:10,901
an evil, dark ritual.
- Exactly.
685
00:34:11,067 --> 00:34:13,100
And we have to be careful
going forward.
686
00:34:13,267 --> 00:34:14,300
OK.
687
00:34:14,467 --> 00:34:16,501
Well, you got some cave
to explore.
688
00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:21,767
OK.
689
00:34:23,767 --> 00:34:25,300
Skinwalkers can lay traps
690
00:34:25,467 --> 00:34:28,100
inside of their homes
and in their dens.
691
00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:29,868
This is what makes it so
dangerous now.
692
00:34:31,567 --> 00:34:33,801
What did you just say?
693
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,200
I said to come here.
694
00:34:39,868 --> 00:34:41,467
- I like this guy.
- Oh my gosh.
695
00:34:41,634 --> 00:34:43,167
I never should have
introduced y'all.
696
00:34:44,901 --> 00:34:46,367
I gotta keep heading in.
697
00:34:46,534 --> 00:34:48,267
We're on the trail
of something.
698
00:34:48,434 --> 00:34:50,067
- I gotta figure it out.
- OK, stay safe.
699
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,167
As Phil investigates deeper
inside the cave,
700
00:34:56,334 --> 00:34:58,367
Shanclen and I begin
a call-and-response session
701
00:34:58,534 --> 00:35:00,567
to try and contact any
skinwalkers present.
702
00:35:01,701 --> 00:35:03,167
OK.
703
00:35:03,334 --> 00:35:04,267
This is Heather
and Shanclen.
704
00:35:07,767 --> 00:35:11,601
We're in what may be
a skinwalker's den.
705
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,667
If you are a skinwalker,
I'm not afraid of you.
706
00:35:17,167 --> 00:35:18,868
We have different tools here
for you.
707
00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:21,100
You can show up on this XLS.
708
00:35:21,267 --> 00:35:23,801
Or you can speak into this
device right here as well.
709
00:35:23,968 --> 00:35:25,167
Right-- whoa, whoa, whoa.
710
00:35:27,367 --> 00:35:29,167
That's a long hello.
711
00:35:29,334 --> 00:35:30,801
Are there any
skinwalkers here?
712
00:35:36,167 --> 00:35:37,701
Yes.
713
00:35:37,868 --> 00:35:38,767
Big yes.
714
00:35:39,801 --> 00:35:40,968
Are you at the entrance
of the cave?
715
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,467
Wha-- tch-- tch-- tch.
716
00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:49,000
He's right there.
He's right there.
717
00:35:49,167 --> 00:35:50,300
He's watching us.
718
00:35:56,901 --> 00:35:57,901
2
We know you're here.
719
00:35:59,167 --> 00:36:00,167
What do you want from us?
720
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,100
And now it's gone.
721
00:36:11,267 --> 00:36:14,367
This could be what they call
a skinwalker den.
722
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,000
What is back there?
723
00:36:22,467 --> 00:36:24,467
Ooh, OK.
724
00:36:26,801 --> 00:36:29,267
Gosh darn it, pigeons.
725
00:36:35,868 --> 00:36:37,167
I'm going to count up.
726
00:36:37,334 --> 00:36:39,167
Let me know how many
skinwalkers are around.
727
00:36:40,868 --> 00:36:41,868
One.
728
00:36:44,501 --> 00:36:45,634
Two.
729
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,100
Three.
730
00:36:50,367 --> 00:36:52,200
Three.
731
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:56,367
Am I in danger?
732
00:37:00,667 --> 00:37:02,601
Is Phil in danger?
733
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:09,501
Yes.
734
00:37:11,868 --> 00:37:15,267
This is getting really narrow.
Really sketchy back here.
735
00:37:22,467 --> 00:37:23,567
What's that sound?
736
00:37:24,667 --> 00:37:25,767
Oh.
737
00:37:25,934 --> 00:37:27,534
Rockslide.
Rockslide!
738
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,167
Go, go, go.
Oh, my God.
739
00:37:34,567 --> 00:37:35,801
- Oh, you good?
- Yeah.
740
00:37:35,968 --> 00:37:36,901
You good, you good?
741
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:39,300
Look at that.
742
00:37:39,467 --> 00:37:40,567
That chunk...
743
00:37:42,367 --> 00:37:43,868
right there.
744
00:37:44,033 --> 00:37:46,267
That was crazy.
745
00:37:47,701 --> 00:37:48,701
Oh, my God.
746
00:37:49,968 --> 00:37:52,067
Yeah, I think I've had...
747
00:37:52,234 --> 00:37:54,367
just about enough rocks thrown
at me for one night.
748
00:37:54,534 --> 00:37:56,467
Oh, let's go, go, go.
749
00:38:02,267 --> 00:38:03,467
- Heather!
- Phil?
750
00:38:03,634 --> 00:38:05,300
- Are you OK?
- Hey!
751
00:38:05,467 --> 00:38:06,434
I'm good, I'm coming!
752
00:38:07,767 --> 00:38:09,567
- You good?
- I'm guessing you heard that?
753
00:38:09,734 --> 00:38:12,367
- Heard what?
- Well, it happened again.
754
00:38:12,534 --> 00:38:14,968
I made it to the very back of
this cave.
755
00:38:15,133 --> 00:38:16,868
And then rocks fell on me.
756
00:38:18,267 --> 00:38:20,667
Big rock this time.
Major rock fall.
757
00:38:20,834 --> 00:38:21,701
We had to run out of there.
758
00:38:21,868 --> 00:38:23,501
- That's twice in one night?
- Yeah.
759
00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:25,767
And I asked my REM pod if
you were in danger.
760
00:38:25,934 --> 00:38:27,300
And then the REM pod lit up.
761
00:38:27,467 --> 00:38:28,767
- No.
- Yeah.
762
00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:34,167
And we got confirmation that
there are three skinwalkers
763
00:38:34,334 --> 00:38:35,767
in this very cave.
764
00:38:35,934 --> 00:38:38,167
This place is
a skinwalker hideout.
765
00:38:38,334 --> 00:38:40,200
And like I said,
they can really
766
00:38:40,367 --> 00:38:42,567
hurt somebody
if they wanted to.
767
00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:44,801
You're down two lives
tonight, Phil.
768
00:38:44,968 --> 00:38:46,567
So for us right now,
769
00:38:46,734 --> 00:38:48,267
I think that we need
to leave this cave,
770
00:38:48,434 --> 00:38:50,067
but before we leave,
we have to do one more thing.
771
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,467
Before we close
our investigation,
772
00:38:56,634 --> 00:38:59,868
Shanclen conducts a final
protection ritual.
773
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,767
Beings of the cave, I'm here
to offer you tobacco.
774
00:39:02,934 --> 00:39:06,100
In exchange, you are not
allowed to follow us home.
775
00:39:12,267 --> 00:39:13,868
- Ready?
- We can go.
776
00:39:15,767 --> 00:39:18,567
My team came to
the Navajo Nation to investigate
777
00:39:18,734 --> 00:39:21,701
the truth behind
the skinwalker legend.
778
00:39:21,868 --> 00:39:24,667
And while Phil and Heather
never came face-to-face with
779
00:39:24,834 --> 00:39:28,367
a skinwalker themselves,
a careful review of the photos
780
00:39:28,534 --> 00:39:30,767
from the so-called
Skinwalker Canyon
781
00:39:30,934 --> 00:39:33,701
revealed unsettling anomalies.
782
00:39:33,868 --> 00:39:37,601
In this photo, a strange ball
of light appears ominously
783
00:39:37,767 --> 00:39:39,267
in the background.
784
00:39:39,434 --> 00:39:42,200
And it's strikingly similar to
the orb Heather observed
785
00:39:42,367 --> 00:39:45,267
at the Harris property.
- What was that?
786
00:39:45,434 --> 00:39:47,567
And then there's this photo.
787
00:39:47,734 --> 00:39:51,300
It appears to be just an image
of the night sky, but look more
788
00:39:51,467 --> 00:39:53,868
closely at
the mist-like formation.
789
00:39:54,033 --> 00:39:57,067
It bears a disturbing
resemblance to the eerie shape
790
00:39:57,234 --> 00:40:00,000
in the Harris family's video,
the one that brought us to
791
00:40:00,167 --> 00:40:02,868
the Navajo Nation in
the first place.
792
00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:06,367
But not all evidence pointed to
something sinister.
793
00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:10,000
- Not at first glance, anyway.
- Check this out.
794
00:40:10,167 --> 00:40:12,567
Lab results confirmed
the hair Phil found
795
00:40:12,734 --> 00:40:15,567
down by the San Juan River
next to the Harris' home
796
00:40:15,734 --> 00:40:17,667
belonged to a fox.
797
00:40:17,834 --> 00:40:21,267
Then, later that night,
our trail cameras recorded one
798
00:40:21,434 --> 00:40:23,467
in that very same spot.
799
00:40:23,634 --> 00:40:27,000
We shared these findings with
Shanclen, and far from being
800
00:40:27,167 --> 00:40:29,667
reassured, he was
deeply concerned.
801
00:40:29,834 --> 00:40:32,767
He reminded us that,
according to Navajo lore,
802
00:40:32,934 --> 00:40:34,501
skinwalkers regularly move
803
00:40:34,667 --> 00:40:37,501
between the physical
and the spiritual.
804
00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,701
He believes the entity Phil
and Heather chased but were
805
00:40:40,868 --> 00:40:44,267
unable to find may have
vanished because it transformed
806
00:40:44,434 --> 00:40:46,100
into an everyday animal.
807
00:40:46,267 --> 00:40:47,567
Whatever was back here,
808
00:40:47,734 --> 00:40:49,367
I don't see it anymore.
809
00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:52,467
Perhaps into the fox we then
captured on camera.
810
00:40:52,634 --> 00:40:54,868
Or perhaps into a bird.
811
00:40:55,033 --> 00:40:56,000
Ooh!
812
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,100
Gosh darn it, pigeons.
813
00:40:59,267 --> 00:41:01,300
When taken
together, the orbs,
814
00:41:01,467 --> 00:41:06,067
the mist, and the animals all
raises a chilling possibility.
815
00:41:06,234 --> 00:41:07,433
Oh, my God!
816
00:41:07,434 --> 00:41:09,968
While Phil and Heather
hunted the skinwalker,
817
00:41:10,133 --> 00:41:12,968
perhaps the skinwalker
was also hunting them.
818
00:41:14,667 --> 00:41:16,901
My team delivered
their findings to the leaders
819
00:41:17,067 --> 00:41:19,667
of the Navajo Nation,
receiving a blessing
820
00:41:19,834 --> 00:41:21,467
for a safe journey home.
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