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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,943 --> 00:00:33,029 As this fragile island democracy 2 00:00:33,029 --> 00:00:34,864 fights to fend off... 3 00:00:34,864 --> 00:00:37,575 Are you willing to get involved militarily to defend Taiwan 4 00:00:37,575 --> 00:00:38,868 if it comes to that? 5 00:00:38,868 --> 00:00:41,037 U.S. President Biden: Yes, it's the commitment we made. 6 00:00:41,037 --> 00:00:44,082 Japanese PM Kishida: Peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait 7 00:00:44,082 --> 00:00:48,836 are vital to our country. 8 00:00:49,629 --> 00:00:50,838 Macronix Chairperson Miin Wu: 9 00:00:50,838 --> 00:00:52,956 Why has Taiwan become such a sensitive topic? 10 00:00:52,956 --> 00:00:54,784 Besides its geopolitical importance, 11 00:00:54,784 --> 00:00:57,387 Taiwan happens to produce 12 00:00:57,387 --> 00:00:59,597 the world's most advanced semiconductors. 13 00:00:59,597 --> 00:01:02,684 That's why everyone is paying such close attention. 14 00:01:02,684 --> 00:01:05,561 And there's one reason behind it all: National Security. 15 00:01:06,471 --> 00:01:07,213 U.S. President Trump: 16 00:01:07,213 --> 00:01:09,816 Right now everything's made in Taiwan, practically. 17 00:01:09,816 --> 00:01:10,650 Almost all. 18 00:01:10,650 --> 00:01:12,402 A little bit in South Korea. 19 00:01:12,402 --> 00:01:15,488 But everything, almost all of it is made in Taiwan. 20 00:01:33,715 --> 00:01:36,551 We may have studied different fields, 21 00:01:36,551 --> 00:01:38,810 but somehow we all 22 00:01:38,810 --> 00:01:41,139 gravitated toward semiconductors. 23 00:01:41,597 --> 00:01:43,061 Setting up semiconductor schools 24 00:01:43,061 --> 00:01:44,183 at four top universities 25 00:01:44,183 --> 00:01:46,602 feels like both a hint and an encouragement: 26 00:01:46,602 --> 00:01:47,854 This is the future. 27 00:01:48,563 --> 00:01:51,899 My understanding is that as long as you have a skill, 28 00:01:51,899 --> 00:01:54,527 TSMC will always have a place for you. 29 00:01:54,527 --> 00:01:58,030 Young people today worry about the broader environment, 30 00:01:58,030 --> 00:02:01,409 about money or about their futures. 31 00:02:02,285 --> 00:02:05,747 Taiwan doesn't have it as easy as other countries. 32 00:02:05,747 --> 00:02:09,584 Even simple interactions with others can be hard. 33 00:02:09,584 --> 00:02:13,337 So we know we've got to work harder. 34 00:02:13,337 --> 00:02:15,454 We try to do something 35 00:02:15,454 --> 00:02:17,934 for Taiwan whenever we can. 36 00:02:20,011 --> 00:02:22,013 Taiwan, an island that makes up 37 00:02:22,013 --> 00:02:25,266 just 0.02% of the world's landmass, 38 00:02:25,266 --> 00:02:27,477 commands global AI chip production 39 00:02:27,477 --> 00:02:31,898 and leads in advanced semiconductor manufacturing. 40 00:02:31,898 --> 00:02:35,568 TSMC put Taiwan in the global spotlight, 41 00:02:35,568 --> 00:02:40,698 yet media call it "the most dangerous place on Earth." 42 00:02:41,657 --> 00:02:46,370 I'd like to get your priorities to mitigate the risks to 43 00:02:46,370 --> 00:02:48,532 your most critical industry, 44 00:02:48,532 --> 00:02:49,749 semiconductors. 45 00:02:49,749 --> 00:02:53,377 How do you help mitigate the risk, 46 00:02:53,377 --> 00:02:57,131 that increasing tension with China? 47 00:02:57,882 --> 00:03:00,970 Semiconductors are undoubtedly 48 00:03:00,970 --> 00:03:02,804 Taiwan's strength, 49 00:03:02,804 --> 00:03:04,141 but they're also 50 00:03:04,141 --> 00:03:06,224 our responsibility to the world. 51 00:03:06,224 --> 00:03:08,295 The semiconductor industry 52 00:03:08,295 --> 00:03:10,637 can only thrive through 53 00:03:10,637 --> 00:03:13,439 global collaboration. 54 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:15,875 We hope the global community 55 00:03:15,875 --> 00:03:18,236 will work with us 56 00:03:18,236 --> 00:03:19,946 to cherish it. 57 00:03:22,031 --> 00:03:24,534 Taiwan is surrounded by the sea. 58 00:03:24,534 --> 00:03:26,786 Its coastal and political boundaries 59 00:03:26,786 --> 00:03:28,663 feel like riddles of fate, 60 00:03:28,663 --> 00:03:31,082 challenging all who live here. 61 00:03:32,208 --> 00:03:33,125 In recent years, 62 00:03:33,125 --> 00:03:34,560 the semiconductor industry 63 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:35,503 has been hailed as 64 00:03:35,503 --> 00:03:37,129 Taiwan's "Silicon Shield" 65 00:03:37,129 --> 00:03:39,465 or the "National Guardian Mountain." 66 00:03:39,465 --> 00:03:40,699 But when Professor Wu, 67 00:03:40,699 --> 00:03:43,678 a longtime scholar of Taiwan's industrial history, 68 00:03:43,678 --> 00:03:47,390 asked me in 2017 about making a film on this subject, 69 00:03:47,390 --> 00:03:49,350 I turned him down. 70 00:03:50,101 --> 00:03:52,270 I felt technology was too cold 71 00:03:52,270 --> 00:03:54,605 and this legend too distant. 72 00:03:54,605 --> 00:03:57,316 It wasn't until I met this group of people 73 00:03:57,316 --> 00:03:59,777 that I gladly picked up the camera. 74 00:04:00,570 --> 00:04:03,239 I spent my 30th birthday in the U.S. 75 00:04:03,239 --> 00:04:06,909 while leading the team in Ohio. 76 00:04:07,368 --> 00:04:08,527 (The RCA project?) 77 00:04:08,527 --> 00:04:09,704 (Why would they trust you?) 78 00:04:09,704 --> 00:04:11,581 - (You were so young, in your 20s or 30s.) - Yeah. 79 00:04:11,581 --> 00:04:14,125 We still don't know. 80 00:04:15,376 --> 00:04:16,969 In 1976, 81 00:04:16,969 --> 00:04:19,964 Taiwan signed an agreement with RCA. 82 00:04:19,964 --> 00:04:22,717 A group of engineers, most under 30, 83 00:04:22,717 --> 00:04:25,052 were sent to the United States for training, 84 00:04:25,052 --> 00:04:29,140 where RCA licensed semiconductor technology to Taiwan. 85 00:04:29,140 --> 00:04:30,516 Dr. Shih Chin-tay, 86 00:04:30,516 --> 00:04:32,560 former president of ITRI (Industrial Technology Research Institute), 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,437 was one of the team leaders. 88 00:04:34,437 --> 00:04:37,690 We just wanted to do something interesting. 89 00:04:37,690 --> 00:04:39,358 We never expected it 90 00:04:39,358 --> 00:04:42,593 to become a hotspot 91 00:04:42,593 --> 00:04:45,865 for global politics and economics. 92 00:04:45,865 --> 00:04:47,867 We truly didn't see it coming. 93 00:04:49,577 --> 00:04:51,787 In hindsight, 94 00:04:51,787 --> 00:04:54,332 we took a gamble on semiconductors. 95 00:04:54,332 --> 00:04:56,910 The odds of success 96 00:04:56,910 --> 00:04:59,170 were honestly extremely low. 97 00:04:59,170 --> 00:05:01,339 Even today, 98 00:05:01,339 --> 00:05:04,658 only Japan, Korea, Taiwan and the U.S. 99 00:05:04,658 --> 00:05:08,554 can produce at this level. 100 00:05:08,554 --> 00:05:10,932 That tells you how difficult it is. 101 00:05:12,558 --> 00:05:13,759 For half a century, 102 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:17,063 Taiwan has risen from a low-income country 103 00:05:17,063 --> 00:05:20,066 to a most-watched global tech hub. 104 00:05:20,066 --> 00:05:23,653 This transformation has long sparked curiosity. 105 00:05:23,653 --> 00:05:24,503 In history, 106 00:05:24,503 --> 00:05:27,073 success stories are always celebrated, 107 00:05:27,073 --> 00:05:29,617 sometimes even becoming legend. 108 00:05:29,617 --> 00:05:33,537 Taiwan's semiconductor industry has one such tale. 109 00:05:34,121 --> 00:05:37,750 In 1974, seven people had breakfast 110 00:05:37,750 --> 00:05:41,128 at "Little Hsin-Hsin" soymilk shop in Taipei. 111 00:05:41,128 --> 00:05:45,466 There, Taiwan's national semiconductor plan was born. 112 00:05:45,466 --> 00:05:49,136 As Taiwan's semiconductors gained global attention, 113 00:05:49,136 --> 00:05:52,223 the media began telling that breakfast story. 114 00:05:52,223 --> 00:05:54,725 Many just picked a random soymilk shop, 115 00:05:54,725 --> 00:05:58,521 slapping a "Little Hsin-Hsin" sign on it. 116 00:05:58,521 --> 00:06:01,107 There have been several versions. 117 00:06:01,107 --> 00:06:02,841 Some said it was on Huaining Street, 118 00:06:02,841 --> 00:06:04,318 some said Nanchang Street, 119 00:06:04,318 --> 00:06:06,779 and others said elsewhere. 120 00:06:06,779 --> 00:06:08,046 Mr. Lu Shyue-ching, 121 00:06:08,046 --> 00:06:11,826 former Chairman of Chunghwa Telecom (CHT), 122 00:06:11,826 --> 00:06:16,330 said that back in the 1970s, 123 00:06:16,330 --> 00:06:19,890 CHT published a phonebook every year. 124 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:22,528 He asked his former colleagues 125 00:06:22,528 --> 00:06:24,434 to check the warehouse. 126 00:06:26,924 --> 00:06:29,844 There really was a Little Hsin-Hsin... restaurant, 127 00:06:29,844 --> 00:06:31,178 not a soymilk shop. 128 00:06:31,178 --> 00:06:33,514 Little Hsin-Hsin Restaurant. 129 00:06:33,514 --> 00:06:36,267 No. 40, Nanyang Street. 130 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,738 No. 40, Nanyang Street. 131 00:06:54,702 --> 00:06:56,203 Lane 38. 132 00:06:59,999 --> 00:07:01,333 No. 50. 133 00:07:02,293 --> 00:07:03,669 Where is No. 40? 134 00:07:03,669 --> 00:07:05,755 Excuse me. 135 00:07:05,755 --> 00:07:08,758 Do you know where No. 40, Nanyang Street is? 136 00:07:08,758 --> 00:07:11,802 This is No. 36 and the next building is No. 50. 137 00:07:12,678 --> 00:07:15,598 So you've never heard of No. 40? 138 00:07:15,598 --> 00:07:16,432 No. 139 00:07:16,557 --> 00:07:17,475 No, I'm not sure. 140 00:07:17,475 --> 00:07:18,517 Not sure? 141 00:07:18,517 --> 00:07:22,021 No. 40? I've no idea. 142 00:07:22,021 --> 00:07:23,689 We've been here for years but never heard of it. 143 00:07:24,023 --> 00:07:26,817 Actually, I couldn't verify it. 144 00:07:26,817 --> 00:07:28,069 I kept looking, 145 00:07:28,069 --> 00:07:30,595 but couldn't find Little Hsin-Hsin's 146 00:07:30,595 --> 00:07:32,198 true location. 147 00:07:32,198 --> 00:07:38,287 So, we offered a reward of NT$50,000 148 00:07:38,287 --> 00:07:40,998 to whoever could find the original photo and location. 149 00:07:40,998 --> 00:07:42,917 No one ever came forward. 150 00:07:46,045 --> 00:07:48,255 Is this the Land Office? 151 00:07:49,423 --> 00:07:50,925 No. 40, Nanyang Street? 152 00:07:50,925 --> 00:07:51,509 Yes. 153 00:07:52,176 --> 00:07:53,302 No records. 154 00:07:53,302 --> 00:07:55,471 I may have to ask the archives to help you look. 155 00:07:58,766 --> 00:08:00,893 This is a map from the Japanese colonial era. 156 00:08:00,893 --> 00:08:02,728 This is Nanyang Street. 157 00:08:02,728 --> 00:08:05,022 This is Lane 38, Nanyang Street. 158 00:08:05,689 --> 00:08:07,108 Having compared them, 159 00:08:07,108 --> 00:08:09,610 we know this is where No. 38 was. 160 00:08:09,610 --> 00:08:12,196 So, the No. 40 and 42 you're looking for 161 00:08:12,196 --> 00:08:13,697 were roughly in this area. 162 00:08:13,697 --> 00:08:15,658 This is the current map. 163 00:08:15,658 --> 00:08:18,744 The buildings were demolished in 1987 164 00:08:18,744 --> 00:08:21,580 and rebuilt as the "Merica Building." 165 00:08:23,332 --> 00:08:25,501 Once we confirmed the location, 166 00:08:25,501 --> 00:08:27,352 we visited Teresa Chen, 167 00:08:27,352 --> 00:08:30,131 chairwoman of Merica Education Group. 168 00:08:30,131 --> 00:08:31,882 Her memories helped reveal 169 00:08:31,882 --> 00:08:34,635 the mystery of Little Hsin-Hsin. 170 00:08:34,635 --> 00:08:37,312 They had breakfast meetings around 171 00:08:37,312 --> 00:08:39,723 a big table with many people. 172 00:08:39,723 --> 00:08:41,642 It wasn't a typical soymilk shop. 173 00:08:41,642 --> 00:08:43,686 Usually, a soymilk shop just served crullers. 174 00:08:43,686 --> 00:08:45,354 But that place wasn't like that at all. 175 00:08:45,354 --> 00:08:48,274 I used to live in the Nanyang Street neighborhood. 176 00:08:48,274 --> 00:08:51,110 Those breakfast meetings 177 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:53,487 affected our lives quite a lot 178 00:08:53,487 --> 00:08:56,240 because there would be traffic controls. 179 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,885 These were high-ranking government officials 180 00:08:58,885 --> 00:09:01,328 like the Premier and the Minister of Economic Affairs. 181 00:09:01,328 --> 00:09:02,872 And it wasn't occasional. 182 00:09:02,872 --> 00:09:07,001 It happened all the time. 183 00:09:08,544 --> 00:09:13,132 Some wondered why I insisted on finding the exact spot. 184 00:09:13,132 --> 00:09:16,051 Wouldn't a reference photo be enough? 185 00:09:16,051 --> 00:09:20,681 But I believe we can't face history relying only on imagination. 186 00:09:20,681 --> 00:09:24,143 Each piece of evidence bears witness of its time. 187 00:09:24,852 --> 00:09:28,355 Finally, we found out that this legendary soymilk shop 188 00:09:28,355 --> 00:09:31,734 was managed by the Veterans Affairs Council. 189 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,196 Originally, it was run by 190 00:09:35,196 --> 00:09:37,907 the Suao-Yuanshan branch. 191 00:09:37,907 --> 00:09:41,118 Then it was handed over to our production and sales center. 192 00:09:41,118 --> 00:09:44,121 That would be the Nanyang St. location. 193 00:09:44,121 --> 00:09:45,539 When I saw the contract, 194 00:09:45,539 --> 00:09:47,750 a clearer picture emerged. 195 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:49,627 Little Hsin-Hsin was run by veterans. 196 00:09:49,627 --> 00:09:52,087 The soymilk shop was on the first floor. 197 00:09:52,087 --> 00:09:54,089 Legendary for its rich soymilk, 198 00:09:54,089 --> 00:09:56,550 large crullers, and crispy flatbread, 199 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:59,345 they purportedly were the best in Taipei. 200 00:09:59,345 --> 00:10:02,181 The second floor was where President Chiang Ching-kuo 201 00:10:02,181 --> 00:10:05,434 had breakfast meetings with top government officials. 202 00:10:08,187 --> 00:10:11,023 Yeh Wan-an, a former government official. 203 00:10:11,023 --> 00:10:13,400 He is now in his 90s and confirmed 204 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,279 this was where the pivotal seven people meeting took place. 205 00:10:18,197 --> 00:10:20,750 Sun Yun-suan, then economic affairs minister, 206 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:23,043 Henry Kao, then transport and communications minister, 207 00:10:23,043 --> 00:10:25,437 the head of Chunghwa Telecom Laboratories and others. 208 00:10:25,437 --> 00:10:29,250 Seven of them had breakfast at Little Hsin-Hsin on Nanyang Street, 209 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:31,877 and listened to Pan Wen-yuan's report. 210 00:10:31,877 --> 00:10:36,131 Minister Sun was very impressed afterwards. 211 00:10:36,131 --> 00:10:38,634 He asked Pan to draft 212 00:10:38,634 --> 00:10:45,516 an integrated circuit (IC) project proposal 213 00:10:45,516 --> 00:10:47,226 for the government's consideration. 214 00:10:47,226 --> 00:10:50,980 Minister Sun asked how much funding was needed 215 00:10:50,980 --> 00:10:52,940 and Pan said US$10 million. 216 00:10:52,940 --> 00:10:54,942 That was a huge sum at the time, NT$400 million. 217 00:10:54,942 --> 00:10:57,236 Sun said, "No problem. Leave it to me." 218 00:11:01,073 --> 00:11:04,201 This history shouldn't be forgotten. 219 00:11:04,201 --> 00:11:06,078 Pan already thought that this was 220 00:11:06,078 --> 00:11:09,373 a very important project for Taiwan. 221 00:11:09,373 --> 00:11:11,458 Looking back, 222 00:11:11,458 --> 00:11:14,920 it was beyond anyone's imagination. 223 00:11:16,463 --> 00:11:19,123 Sun asked Pan to submit a proposal 224 00:11:19,123 --> 00:11:22,303 to the Ministry of Economic Affairs. 225 00:11:22,303 --> 00:11:26,098 So, Pan secluded himself in Room 508 226 00:11:26,098 --> 00:11:27,433 of the Grand Hotel Taipei 227 00:11:27,433 --> 00:11:29,059 for nearly two weeks 228 00:11:29,059 --> 00:11:33,522 to write his IC project proposal. 229 00:11:44,992 --> 00:11:46,994 An old journal from Pan 230 00:11:46,994 --> 00:11:51,415 led us back to Room 508 at the Grand Hotel. 231 00:11:52,624 --> 00:11:53,751 We got to witness 232 00:11:53,751 --> 00:11:57,629 the pressures and challenges they once shouldered. 233 00:11:58,505 --> 00:12:01,467 July 10, 1974. 234 00:12:01,467 --> 00:12:03,367 Mrs. Pan and I received 235 00:12:03,367 --> 00:12:06,430 a dinner invitation from Minister Sun. 236 00:12:06,430 --> 00:12:10,392 Minister Sun kept us till 11 p.m. 237 00:12:10,392 --> 00:12:13,111 to discuss how to strengthen 238 00:12:13,111 --> 00:12:15,272 Taiwan's electronics industry. 239 00:12:15,272 --> 00:12:17,232 I didn't know I was about to make 240 00:12:17,232 --> 00:12:20,819 a commitment to him which compelled me to: 241 00:12:20,819 --> 00:12:21,553 First, 242 00:12:21,553 --> 00:12:23,554 organize a Technical Advisory Committee 243 00:12:23,554 --> 00:12:25,783 in the U.S. 244 00:12:25,783 --> 00:12:29,411 Second, retire early from RCA Corporation. 245 00:12:29,411 --> 00:12:33,248 Fight an uphill battle 246 00:12:33,248 --> 00:12:36,126 to overcome obstacles for Taiwan. 247 00:12:39,463 --> 00:12:41,131 Today, I come here and feel 248 00:12:41,131 --> 00:12:43,675 as if it happened only yesterday. 249 00:12:43,675 --> 00:12:45,177 Like walking into a dream. 250 00:12:46,929 --> 00:12:50,849 Pan once told me he had two rules for serving his country: 251 00:12:50,849 --> 00:12:52,351 First, never take a government post, 252 00:12:52,351 --> 00:12:53,936 which he never did. 253 00:12:55,229 --> 00:12:56,188 Right? 254 00:12:56,188 --> 00:12:58,023 Second, no salary. 255 00:12:58,816 --> 00:13:01,485 He came back to Taiwan to serve, 256 00:13:01,485 --> 00:13:03,779 to contribute. 257 00:13:03,779 --> 00:13:07,282 It was to do something 258 00:13:07,282 --> 00:13:09,159 good for the country. 259 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:11,829 Not for fame or money. 260 00:13:16,125 --> 00:13:18,210 Pan gave up his pension. 261 00:13:19,461 --> 00:13:22,464 His wife gave up her teaching job. 262 00:13:22,464 --> 00:13:26,510 He returned without pay to lead Taiwan's semiconductor mission. 263 00:13:27,803 --> 00:13:31,056 He said it was all for the country. 264 00:13:31,974 --> 00:13:35,394 What kind of era elicited such sacrifice? 265 00:13:43,735 --> 00:13:49,074 Since 1949, Taiwan has lived in wartime readiness. 266 00:13:50,617 --> 00:13:55,164 Real battles were once fought just 5 km from China, 267 00:13:55,164 --> 00:13:57,166 on the island of Kinmen. 268 00:13:58,208 --> 00:14:00,002 On August 23, 269 00:14:00,002 --> 00:14:03,338 our frontline forces fought back with resolve. 270 00:14:03,338 --> 00:14:05,424 Powerful U.S. and R.O.C. fleets and squadrons 271 00:14:05,424 --> 00:14:07,259 provided armed escort. 272 00:14:08,469 --> 00:14:12,598 From the Battle of Guningtou to the 823 Bombardment, 273 00:14:12,598 --> 00:14:16,226 followed by 21 years of periodic conflict. 274 00:14:16,226 --> 00:14:18,520 It wasn't until 1979, 275 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,150 when the U.S. established diplomatic relations with China, 276 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:25,694 that the war finally ended. 277 00:14:27,404 --> 00:14:31,700 Taiwan's situation seemed to be on a balance of terror. 278 00:14:42,628 --> 00:14:46,673 Looking back, when the Korean War erupted in 1950, 279 00:14:46,673 --> 00:14:49,051 seeking to contain communism, 280 00:14:49,051 --> 00:14:50,761 the U.S. provided military and economic aid to Taiwan for 15 years. 281 00:14:50,761 --> 00:14:54,598 the U.S. provided military and economic aid to Taiwan for 15 years. 282 00:14:54,598 --> 00:14:57,935 The U.S.-China power plays have always strained 283 00:14:57,935 --> 00:15:00,979 the fragile thread between war and peace. 284 00:15:03,273 --> 00:15:05,442 Taiwan's economy in the 1950s was in dire shape. 285 00:15:05,442 --> 00:15:08,737 High unemployment, runaway inflation, etc. 286 00:15:08,737 --> 00:15:10,096 When the U.S. aid arrived, 287 00:15:10,096 --> 00:15:12,990 they said that when they supported a country, 288 00:15:12,990 --> 00:15:14,893 stabilizing the economy took priority. 289 00:15:15,118 --> 00:15:16,645 The U.S. aid came in two parts: 290 00:15:16,645 --> 00:15:18,664 military and economic. 291 00:15:18,664 --> 00:15:20,465 The military aid was slightly larger 292 00:15:20,465 --> 00:15:22,793 than the economic aid. 293 00:15:22,793 --> 00:15:24,545 Mostly as weapons and equipment. 294 00:15:24,545 --> 00:15:25,796 The economic aid 295 00:15:25,796 --> 00:15:28,715 focused on infrastructure, 296 00:15:28,715 --> 00:15:30,874 roads, electricity grids 297 00:15:30,874 --> 00:15:32,928 and other essentials. 298 00:15:33,887 --> 00:15:35,714 The U.S. gave Taiwan 299 00:15:35,714 --> 00:15:37,432 US$100 million a year. 300 00:15:37,432 --> 00:15:38,934 It was about 301 00:15:38,934 --> 00:15:42,062 6% of Taiwan's GDP. 302 00:15:42,062 --> 00:15:43,888 When that aid suddenly stopped, 303 00:15:43,888 --> 00:15:45,023 it hit Taiwan hard. 304 00:16:23,145 --> 00:16:27,858 This phone call opened a door for Taiwan's path to technology. 305 00:16:27,858 --> 00:16:28,900 The following year, 306 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:30,127 the first METS (Modern Engineering and Technology Seminar) 307 00:16:30,127 --> 00:16:31,361 was held. 308 00:16:31,361 --> 00:16:36,783 Engineers from abroad brought back new industry knowledge and ideas. 309 00:16:36,783 --> 00:16:39,453 They planted the seeds of change. 310 00:16:39,453 --> 00:16:43,373 Telecom, computing, civil engineering, management 311 00:16:43,373 --> 00:16:45,542 and even film were discussed. 312 00:16:45,542 --> 00:16:48,394 Most important of all was the semiconductor 313 00:16:48,394 --> 00:16:51,089 technology and knowledge. 314 00:16:51,089 --> 00:16:53,191 Fei and Pan knew each other 315 00:16:53,191 --> 00:16:55,344 from their days at Chiao Tung University. 316 00:16:55,344 --> 00:16:58,639 They hoped those engineers in the U.S., 317 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:01,058 back then, Taiwan felt like the homeland. 318 00:17:01,058 --> 00:17:02,601 They hoped to come back and help. 319 00:17:03,644 --> 00:17:06,271 They had advanced technology, 320 00:17:06,271 --> 00:17:08,440 a global perspective, 321 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,941 and the will to build an industry. 322 00:17:10,525 --> 00:17:12,569 In hindsight, 323 00:17:12,569 --> 00:17:15,328 I'm deeply grateful to 324 00:17:15,328 --> 00:17:18,492 the scholars and experts who joined. 325 00:17:18,492 --> 00:17:21,745 Together with local specialists, 326 00:17:21,745 --> 00:17:25,022 they carefully documented everything 327 00:17:25,022 --> 00:17:27,459 brought back from overseas. 328 00:17:27,459 --> 00:17:30,295 It was clear, thorough and precise. 329 00:17:30,295 --> 00:17:33,382 They were top professors in the U.S., 330 00:17:33,382 --> 00:17:35,600 highly accomplished 331 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,803 if you looked at their resumes. 332 00:17:37,803 --> 00:17:40,838 Yet when Taiwan called, 333 00:17:40,838 --> 00:17:42,424 they came home. 334 00:17:42,808 --> 00:17:46,019 I wrote the first report. 335 00:17:46,019 --> 00:17:48,397 We documented things like this. 336 00:17:48,397 --> 00:17:50,482 "An introduction to IC technology." 337 00:17:50,482 --> 00:17:53,318 "Translated and organized by S.N. Yeh." 338 00:17:53,318 --> 00:17:57,322 I took Pan through factory after factory, 339 00:17:57,322 --> 00:18:00,826 they all looked the same. 340 00:18:00,826 --> 00:18:02,136 The most advanced work 341 00:18:02,136 --> 00:18:03,954 was assembling digital watches. 342 00:18:03,954 --> 00:18:06,832 It strained the eyes terribly. 343 00:18:06,832 --> 00:18:09,668 All women, all straining their eyes. 344 00:18:09,668 --> 00:18:12,671 We couldn't help but wonder, 345 00:18:13,922 --> 00:18:16,631 just to pay for a Boeing plane 346 00:18:16,631 --> 00:18:18,135 from the U.S., 347 00:18:18,135 --> 00:18:19,978 how many workers would 348 00:18:19,978 --> 00:18:23,849 it take to earn that back? 349 00:18:23,849 --> 00:18:26,101 Mr. Pan would come by often. 350 00:18:26,101 --> 00:18:29,813 One afternoon, he stopped by the office 351 00:18:30,939 --> 00:18:32,566 and we had a long talk. 352 00:18:32,566 --> 00:18:34,526 What stayed with me was this: 353 00:18:34,526 --> 00:18:35,927 "Taiwan's IC development 354 00:18:35,927 --> 00:18:38,947 must not crawl on the ground." 355 00:18:39,823 --> 00:18:43,702 That one line 356 00:18:43,702 --> 00:18:45,303 changed the course 357 00:18:45,303 --> 00:18:47,497 of Taiwan's development. 358 00:18:52,586 --> 00:18:56,381 In an era when technology was called upon to save the nation, 359 00:18:56,381 --> 00:18:58,125 National Chiao Tung University (NCTU) 360 00:18:58,125 --> 00:19:02,345 established Taiwan's first semiconductor research lab, 361 00:19:02,345 --> 00:19:05,599 becoming the cradle for semiconductor talent. 362 00:19:05,932 --> 00:19:07,184 When I was a junior in college, 363 00:19:07,184 --> 00:19:10,645 I took a course in semiconductors. 364 00:19:10,645 --> 00:19:11,936 I remember it was 365 00:19:11,936 --> 00:19:14,483 a semiconductor engineering class. 366 00:19:14,483 --> 00:19:16,240 It had a profound impact on 367 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,361 the college students at the time. 368 00:19:18,361 --> 00:19:21,156 Back then, we'd chat and wonder 369 00:19:21,156 --> 00:19:24,451 when Taiwan would be like the U.S., 370 00:19:24,451 --> 00:19:25,994 with a strong semiconductor industry 371 00:19:25,994 --> 00:19:28,747 and many great semiconductor companies. 372 00:19:28,747 --> 00:19:31,011 Everyone was hoping one day 373 00:19:31,011 --> 00:19:33,668 we'd have an industry like that. 374 00:19:35,295 --> 00:19:36,171 Six, 375 00:19:36,171 --> 00:19:37,130 five, 376 00:19:37,130 --> 00:19:37,964 four, 377 00:19:37,964 --> 00:19:38,965 three, 378 00:19:38,965 --> 00:19:39,966 two, 379 00:19:39,966 --> 00:19:41,259 one, 380 00:19:41,259 --> 00:19:41,802 zero. 381 00:19:41,802 --> 00:19:43,804 All engines running. 382 00:19:43,804 --> 00:19:46,223 Liftoff. We have a liftoff. 383 00:19:48,016 --> 00:19:50,101 I was walking on the street in Taipei, 384 00:19:50,101 --> 00:19:52,771 a shop had TVs in the window, 385 00:19:52,771 --> 00:19:54,981 with the screens facing the street. 386 00:19:54,981 --> 00:19:59,110 Wow! Man has made it to the Moon. 387 00:19:59,110 --> 00:20:01,029 The moon landing had commenced. 388 00:20:01,029 --> 00:20:04,324 I felt science was advancing so rapidly 389 00:20:04,324 --> 00:20:06,576 that we couldn't catch up with it. 390 00:20:08,829 --> 00:20:10,831 I'm going to step off the LM now. 391 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,085 That's one small step for a man, 392 00:20:17,003 --> 00:20:20,549 one giant leap for mankind. 393 00:20:21,299 --> 00:20:25,971 One small step for tech, one giant leap for mankind. 394 00:20:25,971 --> 00:20:30,934 In 1971, Intel launched the world's first microprocessor — 395 00:20:30,934 --> 00:20:33,770 Intel 4004. 396 00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:35,397 At the same time, 397 00:20:35,397 --> 00:20:37,440 Taiwan suffered a major blow 398 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,068 when it lost its seat at the UN. 399 00:20:40,652 --> 00:20:44,197 The delegation of Republic of China has now decided 400 00:20:44,197 --> 00:20:47,391 not to take part in any further proceedings 401 00:20:47,391 --> 00:20:49,911 of this General Assembly. 402 00:20:49,911 --> 00:20:54,332 In 1971, we were expelled from the UN. 403 00:20:54,332 --> 00:20:55,867 It was an impactful event. 404 00:20:55,867 --> 00:20:57,878 It meant other countries wouldn't acknowledge us. 405 00:20:57,878 --> 00:21:00,213 At the time, people felt that 406 00:21:00,213 --> 00:21:02,382 Taiwan's withdrawal from the UN, 407 00:21:02,382 --> 00:21:05,010 coupled with the loss of strong U.S. backing, 408 00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:08,305 meant Taiwan was doomed. 409 00:21:08,722 --> 00:21:11,099 There were many Taiwanese grad students at Princeton. 410 00:21:11,099 --> 00:21:13,050 I often sat and chatted with 411 00:21:13,050 --> 00:21:15,103 Yang Ding-yuan and Chang Ching-chu. 412 00:21:15,103 --> 00:21:19,149 At some point, we started asking ourselves: 413 00:21:19,149 --> 00:21:21,192 What are we doing in the U.S.? 414 00:21:21,651 --> 00:21:23,361 Just watching fires burn back home? 415 00:21:23,361 --> 00:21:26,823 Just making it something to talk about? 416 00:21:26,823 --> 00:21:28,491 Or is there something we can actually do? 417 00:21:29,284 --> 00:21:31,244 In those turbulent times, 418 00:21:31,244 --> 00:21:34,039 a wave of mass emigration erupted. 419 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:36,207 To calm people down, the government 420 00:21:36,207 --> 00:21:39,044 even made a series of patriotic films, 421 00:21:39,044 --> 00:21:42,422 hoping to boost morale and inspire patriotism. 422 00:21:42,422 --> 00:21:44,215 But more trouble came. 423 00:21:44,215 --> 00:21:46,384 The subsequent global oil crisis 424 00:21:46,384 --> 00:21:51,014 made the situation worse for Taiwan, which lacks mineral resources. 425 00:21:51,014 --> 00:21:52,390 October 1973, 426 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:55,310 the oil price rose from NT$2-plus to over NT$4 dollars a barrel. 427 00:21:55,310 --> 00:21:58,521 By January 1, 1974, it went up another NT$11. 428 00:21:58,521 --> 00:22:00,933 High oil prices were not conducive 429 00:22:00,933 --> 00:22:03,234 to the development of the heavy chemical industry. 430 00:22:03,234 --> 00:22:05,636 The fact that Taiwan had no minerals was devastating. 431 00:22:05,636 --> 00:22:08,156 If Taiwan had minerals, it'd be different. 432 00:22:08,156 --> 00:22:09,491 So I told Minister Sun that 433 00:22:09,491 --> 00:22:11,660 we must develop high tech. 434 00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:13,078 We had no choice. 435 00:22:13,078 --> 00:22:15,330 The U.S. launched a rocket in 1969. 436 00:22:15,330 --> 00:22:17,315 It signaled a bright future 437 00:22:17,315 --> 00:22:18,750 for semiconductors. 438 00:22:18,750 --> 00:22:20,585 Finally, I persuaded Minister Sun. 439 00:22:20,585 --> 00:22:23,505 He took a team to visit then Premier Chiang Ching-kuo 440 00:22:23,505 --> 00:22:25,006 and persuaded Premier Chiang. 441 00:22:25,924 --> 00:22:33,598 In 1973, the Industrial Technology Research Institute (ITRI) was founded. 442 00:22:52,659 --> 00:22:54,327 Having accepted Pan's plan 443 00:22:54,327 --> 00:22:57,122 for developing semiconductors in Taiwan, 444 00:22:57,122 --> 00:22:59,624 Minister Sun began recruiting. 445 00:22:59,624 --> 00:23:01,376 Professor Hu Ding-hua 446 00:23:01,376 --> 00:23:04,629 stepped up and volunteered to lead the project. 447 00:23:05,171 --> 00:23:07,716 In 1976, ITRI sent 448 00:23:07,716 --> 00:23:10,385 more than 40 young engineers in batches 449 00:23:10,385 --> 00:23:13,013 to the RCA Corporation in the U.S. 450 00:23:13,013 --> 00:23:15,890 to study in its semiconductor division. 451 00:23:16,766 --> 00:23:19,060 RCA's technology was incomplete. 452 00:23:19,060 --> 00:23:21,104 It wasn't even top-tier. 453 00:23:21,104 --> 00:23:26,192 Among the 30-plus early candidates, 454 00:23:26,192 --> 00:23:32,824 RCA was the only company willing 455 00:23:32,824 --> 00:23:35,118 to offer ten spots for IC designers. 456 00:23:35,118 --> 00:23:36,703 It was the one and only. 457 00:23:36,703 --> 00:23:38,663 What they learned from RCA 458 00:23:38,663 --> 00:23:41,916 not only created Taiwan's semiconductor industry from scratch 459 00:23:41,916 --> 00:23:45,462 but also laid the technological foundation for its future. 460 00:23:46,337 --> 00:23:49,132 There are many aspects to any historical event. 461 00:23:49,132 --> 00:23:50,967 From a technology history perspective, 462 00:23:50,967 --> 00:23:53,720 we must acknowledge the groundwork laid by those before us 463 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,848 and never forget the way they paved. 464 00:23:55,848 --> 00:24:00,185 I think they fought to do what was right. 465 00:24:00,185 --> 00:24:01,786 You probably have no idea about 466 00:24:01,786 --> 00:24:04,147 the magnitude of your contribution to Taiwan. 467 00:24:04,147 --> 00:24:06,566 Had it not been for you, 468 00:24:06,566 --> 00:24:08,760 Taiwan's economic and industrial path 469 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,946 would've been completely different. 470 00:24:12,238 --> 00:24:16,367 Most of Taiwan's college graduates used to 471 00:24:16,367 --> 00:24:18,787 go abroad for their graduate studies. 472 00:24:18,787 --> 00:24:20,830 We used to say, 473 00:24:20,830 --> 00:24:23,333 "Come, come, come to NTU... Go, go, go to America." 474 00:24:23,333 --> 00:24:25,376 Those who stayed or came back from the U.S. 475 00:24:25,376 --> 00:24:29,255 joined this project with one goal 476 00:24:29,255 --> 00:24:34,886 to reach a higher level. 477 00:24:35,136 --> 00:24:39,307 Around December 1975, 478 00:24:39,307 --> 00:24:41,518 in China Times and United Daily News, 479 00:24:41,518 --> 00:24:43,594 there was an ad in English. 480 00:24:43,594 --> 00:24:44,896 It was pretty big. 481 00:24:44,896 --> 00:24:48,483 It said ITRI was recruiting young talent 482 00:24:48,483 --> 00:24:53,571 to train in IC technology in the U.S. 483 00:24:53,571 --> 00:24:55,865 When I saw it, 484 00:24:55,865 --> 00:24:58,535 I quietly signed up, 485 00:24:58,535 --> 00:25:00,328 I didn't even tell my wife. 486 00:25:00,912 --> 00:25:03,248 I had finished my master's. 487 00:25:03,248 --> 00:25:04,415 There was a small ad 488 00:25:04,415 --> 00:25:06,150 in Central Daily News saying 489 00:25:06,150 --> 00:25:11,214 ITRI was launching an IC project. 490 00:25:11,214 --> 00:25:13,716 I thought, "Nice," and applied for it. 491 00:25:13,716 --> 00:25:15,802 Before we left for RCA, 492 00:25:15,802 --> 00:25:23,935 Minister Sun met with the whole team, 493 00:25:23,935 --> 00:25:26,354 and encouraged us to complete the mission successfully. 494 00:25:26,354 --> 00:25:30,191 He stressed how critical the mission was. 495 00:25:30,191 --> 00:25:31,876 We had to succeed. 496 00:25:31,876 --> 00:25:33,528 Failure was not an option. 497 00:25:33,528 --> 00:25:36,205 Minister Sun spoke to us all 498 00:25:36,205 --> 00:25:39,200 before we left. 499 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,288 It felt like a true mission to everyone. 500 00:25:44,372 --> 00:25:46,499 He told us, 501 00:25:46,499 --> 00:25:48,918 "We must succeed. Failure is not an option." 502 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:02,599 (So the Minister had high hopes for you all.) 503 00:26:03,141 --> 00:26:04,517 As the chief project lead, 504 00:26:04,517 --> 00:26:08,688 I stood up and said, "Yes, we will succeed." 505 00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:16,279 The first group of 19 was dispatched to RCA. 506 00:26:16,279 --> 00:26:19,282 Hu stayed in Taiwan as project director. 507 00:26:19,782 --> 00:26:24,412 In the U.S., Yang, Shih, Chang and Shu 508 00:26:24,412 --> 00:26:29,083 led the design, process, testing and equipment teams. 509 00:26:32,962 --> 00:26:36,674 Arriving in the U.S., 510 00:26:36,674 --> 00:26:38,801 I saw highways everywhere. 511 00:26:38,801 --> 00:26:42,889 Everyone, even a gatekeeper, 512 00:26:42,889 --> 00:26:47,018 had a nice house, A/C and a fridge. 513 00:26:47,018 --> 00:26:52,065 Our daily allowance 514 00:26:52,065 --> 00:26:54,198 including food, rent, 515 00:26:54,198 --> 00:26:56,611 insurance and everything 516 00:26:57,737 --> 00:27:02,116 was just US$18. 517 00:27:03,284 --> 00:27:07,956 So, when we passed McDonald's or KFC, 518 00:27:07,956 --> 00:27:12,043 we'd take a whiff and quietly walk away. 519 00:27:12,752 --> 00:27:14,921 We couldn't afford it. 520 00:27:14,921 --> 00:27:17,757 It was a shock, 521 00:27:17,757 --> 00:27:21,177 a deep, unforgettable shock. 522 00:27:21,177 --> 00:27:25,014 Then we thought, 523 00:27:28,768 --> 00:27:30,061 someday, 524 00:27:40,822 --> 00:27:43,074 we would catch up. 525 00:27:49,163 --> 00:27:51,958 We were determined to accomplish the mission. 526 00:27:52,625 --> 00:27:55,076 We pulled out all the stops to get it done. 527 00:27:55,076 --> 00:27:57,146 Not just to learn from them, 528 00:27:57,146 --> 00:28:01,050 but to show we could match them, 529 00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:03,011 maybe even surpass them. 530 00:28:03,636 --> 00:28:05,430 I asked them to write down everything, 531 00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:08,641 every detail they saw in the fab. 532 00:28:08,641 --> 00:28:12,687 Having been on a design team in a U.S. factory, 533 00:28:12,687 --> 00:28:16,107 I knew even the tiniest detail 534 00:28:16,107 --> 00:28:19,319 could make or break production. 535 00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:20,675 So I told them to 536 00:28:20,675 --> 00:28:22,714 document everything carefully, 537 00:28:22,714 --> 00:28:24,016 even the smallest, 538 00:28:24,016 --> 00:28:25,533 seemingly trivial details. 539 00:28:25,533 --> 00:28:26,852 While in Ohio, 540 00:28:26,852 --> 00:28:29,454 I often printed out their process specs so that we could 541 00:28:29,454 --> 00:28:32,540 bring back all the settings and processes shared with us. 542 00:28:32,540 --> 00:28:35,001 They thought we printed so much 543 00:28:35,001 --> 00:28:37,171 that we were driving up their costs. 544 00:28:38,171 --> 00:28:40,423 They even complained to Shih about it. 545 00:28:40,423 --> 00:28:43,343 The technicians in our department 546 00:28:43,343 --> 00:28:45,428 saw how hard we worked and joked, 547 00:28:45,428 --> 00:28:48,097 "We'll lose our jobs as soon as you guys go home." 548 00:28:48,097 --> 00:28:50,975 Incidentally... 549 00:28:50,975 --> 00:28:53,436 one of them, a good friend of mine, 550 00:28:53,436 --> 00:28:56,105 typed out "Made in Taiwan" 551 00:28:56,105 --> 00:28:58,775 and stuck it on his phone. 552 00:28:58,775 --> 00:29:02,320 He said, "Someday, all this will be made by you guys in Taiwan." 553 00:29:02,862 --> 00:29:06,449 Most of these factory workers 554 00:29:06,449 --> 00:29:10,578 were no more than high school graduates. 555 00:29:10,578 --> 00:29:12,955 I often said our team was 556 00:29:12,955 --> 00:29:17,502 like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. 557 00:29:17,502 --> 00:29:19,504 We got more education than they did. 558 00:29:19,504 --> 00:29:24,884 But could we do as well or even better? 559 00:29:24,884 --> 00:29:26,511 That was our real challenge. 560 00:29:30,348 --> 00:29:31,745 We spent nearly 561 00:29:31,745 --> 00:29:33,935 all our time in the factory. 562 00:29:33,935 --> 00:29:36,437 Tseng was the first to learn to drive. 563 00:29:36,437 --> 00:29:38,147 Once, he drove us to 564 00:29:38,147 --> 00:29:40,400 Cedar Point in northern Ohio. 565 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,026 It was an amusement park. 566 00:29:42,318 --> 00:29:43,444 We went there 567 00:29:43,444 --> 00:29:45,405 and had a blast. 568 00:29:45,405 --> 00:29:47,907 We stayed out way too late. 569 00:29:47,907 --> 00:29:50,368 When we got back, Shih was furious. 570 00:29:50,952 --> 00:29:53,162 He said, "If something happened, 571 00:29:53,162 --> 00:29:57,917 the whole project would've collapsed!" 572 00:29:57,917 --> 00:30:00,086 "No more trips like that." 573 00:30:00,086 --> 00:30:03,297 There were no cell phones back then. 574 00:30:03,297 --> 00:30:04,882 He was worried sick. 575 00:30:06,134 --> 00:30:08,136 These photos are real treasures. 576 00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:11,514 Here we are, out on a boat trip. 577 00:30:11,514 --> 00:30:12,932 These are... 578 00:30:12,932 --> 00:30:15,977 Shih, Tseng and me. 579 00:30:15,977 --> 00:30:19,480 At that time, we cut each other's hair. 580 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,649 We'd make a hole in the newspaper, 581 00:30:21,649 --> 00:30:23,985 drape it over like a cape, and snip away. 582 00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:31,451 My child was born in 1977, 583 00:30:31,451 --> 00:30:34,245 after I returned from RCA. 584 00:30:35,997 --> 00:30:36,998 He was born after you came back? 585 00:30:36,998 --> 00:30:38,916 He was born after I came back. 586 00:30:39,876 --> 00:30:41,294 You got your driver's license in the U.S.? 587 00:30:41,294 --> 00:30:42,503 I got my driver's license in the U.S. 588 00:30:42,503 --> 00:30:43,798 They all worked hard 589 00:30:43,798 --> 00:30:45,840 to get a driver's license there. 590 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,008 Just to... 591 00:30:47,008 --> 00:30:49,010 Just to go out and explore. 592 00:30:49,469 --> 00:30:53,264 During Thanksgiving break, 593 00:30:53,264 --> 00:30:55,600 the holiday was three or four days. 594 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:01,481 I drove from Ohio to Huntsville, Alabama. 595 00:31:01,481 --> 00:31:03,274 Then down to New Orleans, Louisiana. 596 00:31:03,274 --> 00:31:06,694 Their trip sounded crazy to me. 597 00:31:06,694 --> 00:31:08,529 Why would anyone drive like that? 598 00:31:08,529 --> 00:31:11,449 You just sat... 599 00:31:12,241 --> 00:31:14,285 and drove without checking anything out. 600 00:31:15,077 --> 00:31:17,455 (Three straight days behind the wheel?) 601 00:31:17,455 --> 00:31:20,416 Yes, all the way south and back up. 602 00:31:20,416 --> 00:31:23,085 (Did you think of taking him along) 603 00:31:23,085 --> 00:31:24,879 (just so he couldn't pull the rank on you?) 604 00:31:24,879 --> 00:31:27,381 No, he wouldn't go with us. 605 00:31:28,216 --> 00:31:30,301 I had to write the reports. 606 00:31:45,274 --> 00:31:48,110 The real stress came every weekend. 607 00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:49,787 On Sunday evenings, 608 00:31:49,787 --> 00:31:52,490 I'd get a call from Hu. 609 00:31:53,032 --> 00:31:56,410 Taiwan had finished Monday's meeting, 610 00:31:56,410 --> 00:31:57,703 so instructions came pouring in. 611 00:31:57,703 --> 00:32:01,123 In those two to three years, 612 00:32:01,123 --> 00:32:02,432 my heart skipped a beat 613 00:32:02,432 --> 00:32:04,218 whenever I heard the phone ring. 614 00:32:05,753 --> 00:32:08,297 Back then, the RCA team had to learn 615 00:32:08,297 --> 00:32:11,133 not just IC design and processing, 616 00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:14,136 but also U.S. management systems. 617 00:32:14,136 --> 00:32:16,514 The only female member on the team was 618 00:32:16,514 --> 00:32:19,684 Chang Jing-yue, who was responsible for accounting. 619 00:32:20,101 --> 00:32:22,453 I took pride in contributing 620 00:32:22,453 --> 00:32:25,022 to the success of the program. 621 00:32:25,022 --> 00:32:28,859 I believed I helped push it 622 00:32:28,859 --> 00:32:31,904 toward a more perfect execution. 623 00:32:31,904 --> 00:32:35,866 I think, back then... it was Mr. Hu. 624 00:32:35,866 --> 00:32:38,035 They were incredibly wise. 625 00:32:38,452 --> 00:32:40,413 Why was cost accounting included in the project? 626 00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:43,874 They knew it wasn't just about tech. 627 00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:48,170 They wanted to turn it into a product, 628 00:32:48,170 --> 00:32:49,672 to commercialize what we learned. 629 00:32:49,672 --> 00:32:54,135 And that meant knowing the costs. 630 00:32:54,844 --> 00:32:56,679 As soon as we arrived, 631 00:32:56,679 --> 00:32:58,931 they gave me 632 00:32:58,931 --> 00:33:00,558 lots of these notepads. 633 00:33:00,558 --> 00:33:01,976 (Did everyone have them?) 634 00:33:01,976 --> 00:33:04,270 Yes. They gave us these as soon as we arrived. 635 00:33:05,104 --> 00:33:08,733 Dating back to 1977... they are more than 40 years old. 636 00:33:13,070 --> 00:33:17,283 This was our appointment letter. 637 00:33:17,283 --> 00:33:19,160 (You still have these.) 638 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,079 Yes, I kept them at home. 639 00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:25,958 These engineers not only had to work hard in the U.S., 640 00:33:25,958 --> 00:33:28,961 they also had to take on assignments from Taiwan, 641 00:33:28,961 --> 00:33:34,842 including designing Taiwan's first IC, the CIC-0001 chip. 642 00:33:34,842 --> 00:33:38,804 The purpose was to provide better positioning for the balloons 643 00:33:38,804 --> 00:33:42,391 used in the psychological warfare against China. 644 00:33:42,391 --> 00:33:44,477 The aid sent to China via balloons 645 00:33:44,477 --> 00:33:47,355 includes cured meat, rice and daily goods. 646 00:33:47,355 --> 00:33:49,607 We also send countless flyers in color, 647 00:33:49,607 --> 00:33:51,651 calling on compatriots to rise against communism. 648 00:33:51,651 --> 00:33:53,569 In Kinmen, they'd launch balloons 649 00:33:53,569 --> 00:33:55,946 carrying flyers and small goods 650 00:33:55,946 --> 00:33:59,408 to float across the strait. 651 00:33:59,408 --> 00:34:03,829 Each balloon had a timer 652 00:34:03,829 --> 00:34:06,423 set according to the weather, 653 00:34:06,423 --> 00:34:09,085 wind and temperature. 654 00:34:09,085 --> 00:34:12,963 The old system wasn't that reliable. 655 00:34:12,963 --> 00:34:14,715 Ours was digital. 656 00:34:14,715 --> 00:34:17,134 Much more accurate. The timing was precise. 657 00:34:17,134 --> 00:34:18,636 But... 658 00:34:18,636 --> 00:34:20,888 later, a bunch of problems came up. 659 00:34:20,888 --> 00:34:23,206 Our IC couldn't handle 660 00:34:23,206 --> 00:34:25,518 the temperatures at high altitude. 661 00:34:25,518 --> 00:34:28,604 Though this project didn't succeed, 662 00:34:28,604 --> 00:34:30,815 it was vital for ITRI. 663 00:34:30,815 --> 00:34:35,152 From designing, manufacturing, testing and packaging, 664 00:34:35,152 --> 00:34:37,697 we went over the entire process. 665 00:34:38,572 --> 00:34:40,408 Although this homegrown chip 666 00:34:40,408 --> 00:34:44,120 couldn't cope with the temperature difference at high altitude 667 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,663 and failed, 668 00:34:45,663 --> 00:34:48,916 it seemed to witness the intertwining relationship between 669 00:34:48,916 --> 00:34:52,044 tech advancement and national strategy. 670 00:34:53,504 --> 00:34:56,298 Before the RCA team left for the U.S., 671 00:34:56,298 --> 00:34:59,301 Minister Sun formally assigned the task to them. 672 00:34:59,301 --> 00:35:01,470 He met with them and encouraged them in person. 673 00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:04,432 It was a gesture full of hope and purpose. 674 00:35:04,432 --> 00:35:06,851 To the outside world, they were engineers 675 00:35:06,851 --> 00:35:08,978 pursuing cutting-edge technology. 676 00:35:08,978 --> 00:35:12,356 But their true fuel wasn't science. 677 00:35:12,356 --> 00:35:16,026 It was love for their home country. 678 00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:19,321 So we have to see the bigger picture 679 00:35:19,321 --> 00:35:23,576 to understand why 680 00:35:23,576 --> 00:35:26,537 they gave it everything they had, 681 00:35:26,537 --> 00:35:29,081 and what truly drove them. 682 00:35:34,587 --> 00:35:37,339 Geopolitical shifts are felt most deeply 683 00:35:37,339 --> 00:35:41,051 by those carrying out national missions abroad. 684 00:35:42,261 --> 00:35:47,099 In 1976, the Summer Olympics was held in Montreal. 685 00:35:47,099 --> 00:35:50,853 Taiwan was banned from entering as Team R.O.C. 686 00:35:50,853 --> 00:35:54,857 as Canada established diplomatic relations with China. 687 00:35:54,857 --> 00:35:57,526 This incident shocked Taiwan 688 00:35:57,526 --> 00:36:01,989 and sent the RCA team's motivation into overdrive. 689 00:36:01,989 --> 00:36:04,041 The Olympics happened to take place 690 00:36:04,041 --> 00:36:05,659 while we were in the U.S. 691 00:36:05,659 --> 00:36:11,040 The Taiwanese team was banned 692 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,750 and wasn't allowed to participate. 693 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:15,920 We came to learn about what happened. 694 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,588 But there was nothing we could do. 695 00:36:17,588 --> 00:36:20,483 We were engineers 696 00:36:20,483 --> 00:36:22,176 we weren't considering politics. 697 00:36:22,176 --> 00:36:25,095 The most important thing was we had to do our job well. 698 00:36:25,095 --> 00:36:28,224 If Taiwan isn't strong, nothing we say 699 00:36:28,224 --> 00:36:29,433 will matter much. 700 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:34,355 In 1977, a pilot fab was founded, 701 00:36:34,355 --> 00:36:38,776 symbolizing the seeds of semiconductors carried across the ocean 702 00:36:38,776 --> 00:36:41,153 about to take root in Taiwan. 703 00:36:41,237 --> 00:36:43,572 There was fierce resistance. 704 00:36:43,572 --> 00:36:46,283 Lawmakers questioned Minister Sun. 705 00:36:46,283 --> 00:36:49,203 Why invest so much in something so uncertain? 706 00:36:49,203 --> 00:36:52,581 The economy was struggling. Times were tough. 707 00:36:52,581 --> 00:36:55,459 Why take such a gamble? 708 00:36:55,459 --> 00:36:57,253 I knew Minister Sun was having a hard time. 709 00:36:57,253 --> 00:36:58,754 Even within the government, he stood alone. 710 00:36:58,754 --> 00:37:00,965 The National Assembly opposed it. Ditto the Ministry of Finance. 711 00:37:00,965 --> 00:37:02,299 Even his own ministry pushed back. 712 00:37:02,299 --> 00:37:04,677 He was the Minister of Economic Affairs 713 00:37:04,677 --> 00:37:07,471 and still, his ministry opposed him. 714 00:37:07,471 --> 00:37:10,307 Some old lawmaker friends even scolded him over dinner, 715 00:37:10,307 --> 00:37:11,642 saying he was out of his mind for betting on chips. 716 00:37:11,642 --> 00:37:14,353 He told me all this. 717 00:37:14,353 --> 00:37:16,981 I said, "Ignore them. They just don't see it yet." 718 00:37:26,323 --> 00:37:28,659 "Six months ago, Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew 719 00:37:28,659 --> 00:37:31,745 visited our semiconductor lab. 720 00:37:31,745 --> 00:37:36,834 Lee asked, 'Who made this bold decision?' 721 00:37:36,834 --> 00:37:41,297 Sun stayed silent. 722 00:37:41,297 --> 00:37:44,008 So, I (Fang Hien-chee) spoke up, 723 00:37:44,008 --> 00:37:47,136 'It was Mr. Sun.'" 724 00:37:47,136 --> 00:37:50,931 The hardest part about decision-making 725 00:37:50,931 --> 00:37:54,935 is acting in an unfamiliar field. 726 00:37:54,935 --> 00:37:57,938 It's dangerous to lead when you don't know the terrain. 727 00:37:57,938 --> 00:38:01,483 But I believe Minister Sun had done his homework. 728 00:38:01,483 --> 00:38:06,614 He'd heard from Fang and Pan 729 00:38:06,614 --> 00:38:10,159 and received advice from Simon M. Sze. 730 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:15,331 He knew exactly what he was doing. 731 00:38:15,331 --> 00:38:18,751 That's why he didn't hesitate pulling the trigger. 732 00:38:18,751 --> 00:38:20,610 By then, Minister Sun 733 00:38:20,610 --> 00:38:21,795 had become Premier Sun. 734 00:38:21,795 --> 00:38:23,279 At the pilot fab opening, 735 00:38:23,279 --> 00:38:26,133 we issued him a guest badge. 736 00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:27,968 You know what he did? 737 00:38:28,552 --> 00:38:30,179 He tossed the badge aside and said, 738 00:38:30,179 --> 00:38:33,349 "I'm not a guest. I'm the owner." 739 00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:39,188 "This is my project." 740 00:38:39,563 --> 00:38:42,983 The biggest challenge the pilot fab faced after it opened 741 00:38:42,983 --> 00:38:44,652 was to find business orders 742 00:38:44,652 --> 00:38:46,570 to keep operations running. 743 00:38:47,071 --> 00:38:50,491 Shih turned to his college roommate Chu for help 744 00:38:50,491 --> 00:38:53,202 and successfully secured our first order 745 00:38:53,202 --> 00:38:56,288 from Hong Kong for digital watches. 746 00:38:56,288 --> 00:39:00,459 That was huge for us because in Taiwan, 747 00:39:00,459 --> 00:39:03,587 people thought imports were better 748 00:39:03,587 --> 00:39:06,048 for products like these. 749 00:39:06,048 --> 00:39:08,884 Nobody thought we could make them in Taiwan. 750 00:39:08,884 --> 00:39:11,762 I remember it was an order of 100,000 chips. 751 00:39:11,762 --> 00:39:13,722 What we had in mind lacked ambition. 752 00:39:13,722 --> 00:39:15,307 We never imagined 753 00:39:15,307 --> 00:39:18,268 a watch would have this much impact. 754 00:39:19,645 --> 00:39:22,205 I heard that later Chang Ching-chu 755 00:39:22,205 --> 00:39:25,150 ran into RCA's CEO, 756 00:39:25,150 --> 00:39:27,939 who told Chang that RCA's 757 00:39:27,939 --> 00:39:30,046 biggest miscalculation 758 00:39:30,046 --> 00:39:34,243 was transferring the technology to Taiwan, 759 00:39:34,243 --> 00:39:37,162 because they were no match for us. 760 00:39:37,997 --> 00:39:39,373 If memory serves, 761 00:39:39,373 --> 00:39:41,823 they promised a yield of 762 00:39:41,823 --> 00:39:44,462 40% in the contract. 763 00:39:45,963 --> 00:39:50,124 But on our first cut, 764 00:39:50,124 --> 00:39:54,638 we hit over 90%. 765 00:39:54,638 --> 00:39:56,023 By the second or third year, 766 00:39:56,023 --> 00:39:58,809 RCA tried to buy the pilot fab back. 767 00:39:59,476 --> 00:40:03,772 Some officials thought we should sell... 768 00:40:03,772 --> 00:40:05,691 just cash out and move on. 769 00:40:05,691 --> 00:40:07,735 Hu Ding-hua, along with the director of the center 770 00:40:07,735 --> 00:40:09,862 and other top officials like Premier Sun said, 771 00:40:09,862 --> 00:40:11,864 "This must take root. We're not selling." 772 00:40:11,864 --> 00:40:13,323 So we kept the pilot fab. 773 00:40:14,783 --> 00:40:19,705 Hu was like a squad leader to those young engineers at ITRI. 774 00:40:19,705 --> 00:40:21,832 He led the mission forward 775 00:40:21,832 --> 00:40:25,294 and always had their back in tough times. 776 00:40:26,795 --> 00:40:28,688 I didn't know until later 777 00:40:28,688 --> 00:40:30,473 that when Pan Wen-yuan 778 00:40:30,473 --> 00:40:32,626 was about to launch the project, 779 00:40:32,626 --> 00:40:35,554 Hu called Pan and said 780 00:40:35,554 --> 00:40:39,349 he was willing to lead the project. 781 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:43,353 That took courage because 782 00:40:43,353 --> 00:40:47,357 Pan barely knew him then. 783 00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:49,443 Hu said someone had to step up, so he did. 784 00:40:53,072 --> 00:40:54,799 The sense of mission 785 00:40:54,799 --> 00:40:57,159 this generation of pioneers had 786 00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:58,768 came from a deep sense of identity, 787 00:40:58,768 --> 00:41:00,537 and a looming crisis. 788 00:41:00,537 --> 00:41:03,767 In the 1970s, 789 00:41:03,767 --> 00:41:07,087 whether the place was called Taiwan, 790 00:41:07,087 --> 00:41:09,880 the Republic of China or China, 791 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,259 the challenge was clear: 792 00:41:14,259 --> 00:41:17,748 How to carve out a future 793 00:41:17,748 --> 00:41:20,612 through relentless industrial 794 00:41:20,612 --> 00:41:23,352 and technological advancement. 795 00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:49,713 I remember when the U.S. 796 00:41:49,713 --> 00:41:51,588 broke off diplomatic relations with Taiwan. 797 00:41:51,588 --> 00:41:53,757 We were on our way back to the office after lunch. 798 00:41:53,757 --> 00:41:57,636 In front of the first ITRI building, 799 00:41:57,636 --> 00:41:59,539 we sat down and chatted. 800 00:41:59,539 --> 00:42:01,551 Now that the U.S. had severed 801 00:42:01,551 --> 00:42:03,559 diplomatic relations with Taiwan, 802 00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:05,902 the competition between Taiwan 803 00:42:05,902 --> 00:42:09,189 and China would get even tougher. 804 00:42:09,189 --> 00:42:14,611 Hu broke down in tears. 805 00:42:16,905 --> 00:42:19,533 We stood there, 806 00:42:21,743 --> 00:42:24,246 but had no idea how to comfort him. 807 00:43:11,793 --> 00:43:15,422 We met each other in 1976. 808 00:43:15,422 --> 00:43:19,509 I was 29, and Hu was 33. 809 00:43:19,509 --> 00:43:22,888 He never thought Taiwan's chip industry 810 00:43:22,888 --> 00:43:25,098 would scale up so much that 811 00:43:26,141 --> 00:43:29,311 it'd play a pivotal role in the world. 812 00:43:29,311 --> 00:43:31,813 President Hu never sought credit 813 00:43:31,813 --> 00:43:34,107 and was eager to promote young talent. 814 00:43:34,107 --> 00:43:36,068 He often urged young people 815 00:43:36,068 --> 00:43:37,660 to hold fast to what's right, 816 00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:39,238 and dare to innovate. 817 00:43:39,238 --> 00:43:41,365 I learned three things from him: 818 00:43:41,365 --> 00:43:44,701 honesty, 819 00:43:44,701 --> 00:43:46,745 discipline, 820 00:43:46,745 --> 00:43:48,304 and a vision that proved 821 00:43:48,304 --> 00:43:49,748 vital to Macronix's growth. 822 00:43:49,748 --> 00:43:51,707 Hu, your life was a gift 823 00:43:51,707 --> 00:43:53,710 to Taiwan's tech industry. 824 00:43:53,710 --> 00:43:56,255 You truly lived a life worth living. 825 00:43:56,255 --> 00:43:57,798 At the memorial service, 826 00:43:57,798 --> 00:44:01,301 I witnessed their camaraderie from the old days 827 00:44:01,301 --> 00:44:06,223 and the true emotions these tech pioneers rarely displayed. 828 00:44:06,223 --> 00:44:10,143 At that moment, I thought, if this history isn't recorded, 829 00:44:10,143 --> 00:44:12,271 it would be Taiwan's loss. 830 00:44:13,021 --> 00:44:14,147 That very thought 831 00:44:14,147 --> 00:44:17,025 sparked the making of this documentary. 832 00:44:31,164 --> 00:44:33,583 What did the RCA project prove? 833 00:44:33,583 --> 00:44:35,318 It proved that Taiwan, 834 00:44:35,318 --> 00:44:40,465 this environment, these people 835 00:44:40,465 --> 00:44:44,219 could indeed build ICs. Any IC. 836 00:44:44,219 --> 00:44:46,595 The pilot fab made the chips, 837 00:44:46,595 --> 00:44:48,849 but that wasn't enough. 838 00:44:48,849 --> 00:44:52,352 Small scale doesn't make an industry. 839 00:44:52,352 --> 00:44:54,855 Scaling up, that's the real test. 840 00:44:54,855 --> 00:44:56,606 And that test was 841 00:44:56,606 --> 00:44:58,859 United Microelectronics Corporation (UMC). 842 00:44:58,859 --> 00:45:02,863 In 1980, ITRI transferred the technology and talents 843 00:45:02,863 --> 00:45:05,490 to the company it founded, UMC. 844 00:45:05,490 --> 00:45:08,035 It was Taiwan's first homegrown company 845 00:45:08,035 --> 00:45:11,371 to design and manufacture integrated circuits. 846 00:45:11,371 --> 00:45:15,917 And with that, it carried the weight of industrializing semiconductors. 847 00:45:15,917 --> 00:45:18,795 Starting this industry 848 00:45:18,795 --> 00:45:20,672 took real courage from the government. 849 00:45:20,672 --> 00:45:23,175 Back then, it felt incredibly lonely. 850 00:45:24,051 --> 00:45:25,052 So very lonely. 851 00:45:25,052 --> 00:45:28,871 But you could feel the officials 852 00:45:28,871 --> 00:45:31,975 in charge genuinely cared. 853 00:45:31,975 --> 00:45:34,711 They took on huge pressure 854 00:45:34,711 --> 00:45:36,271 and never gave up. 855 00:45:36,271 --> 00:45:40,734 They really wanted to make it work. 856 00:45:41,651 --> 00:45:43,820 In the early days of UMC, 857 00:45:43,820 --> 00:45:45,739 we got a lot of help from the government. 858 00:45:45,739 --> 00:45:49,576 But we lagged in technology. 859 00:45:49,576 --> 00:45:51,870 We lacked talent. Our funding was limited. 860 00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:57,292 How could we use our limited resources 861 00:45:57,292 --> 00:45:58,585 to make money first, 862 00:45:58,585 --> 00:46:01,380 that was the only goal. 863 00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:03,173 Back then, 864 00:46:05,425 --> 00:46:09,930 there was no room for pride 865 00:46:09,930 --> 00:46:15,060 when it came to sales. 866 00:46:16,978 --> 00:46:20,232 We had to hustle hard for every deal. 867 00:46:20,232 --> 00:46:21,391 If you'd asked 868 00:46:21,391 --> 00:46:23,819 the public opinion back then 869 00:46:23,819 --> 00:46:26,195 whether Taiwan should do ICs, 870 00:46:26,195 --> 00:46:29,241 it would've been a resounding no. 871 00:46:29,241 --> 00:46:31,535 No one would've applauded us. 872 00:46:31,535 --> 00:46:33,336 When UMC started, 873 00:46:33,336 --> 00:46:34,996 CommonWealth Magazine said 874 00:46:34,996 --> 00:46:37,416 we were a crippled industry heading for certain death. 875 00:46:38,583 --> 00:46:42,087 We barely scraped by until 1983 876 00:46:42,087 --> 00:46:44,339 when a golden opportunity appeared. 877 00:46:44,339 --> 00:46:46,550 In 1983, telephones were exported. 878 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:48,593 Previously in the U.S., all home phones 879 00:46:48,593 --> 00:46:49,819 had to be installed 880 00:46:49,819 --> 00:46:51,388 by the phone companies. 881 00:46:51,388 --> 00:46:53,515 That year, phones became deregulated. 882 00:46:53,515 --> 00:46:55,725 People could install their own phones at home. 883 00:46:55,725 --> 00:46:57,060 So we thought, 884 00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:59,729 this is big. 885 00:46:59,729 --> 00:47:05,485 Let's make ICs for telephones. 886 00:47:05,819 --> 00:47:10,323 Demand exploded. 887 00:47:10,323 --> 00:47:12,008 We worked nonstop for 9 months, 888 00:47:12,008 --> 00:47:14,369 even on the weekends. 889 00:47:14,369 --> 00:47:16,872 It was a massive opportunity. 890 00:47:16,872 --> 00:47:20,750 Our revenue jumped 500% by the next year. 891 00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:23,503 Our profit margin was over 30%, 892 00:47:23,503 --> 00:47:29,926 second only to the tobacco monopoly. 893 00:47:29,926 --> 00:47:32,095 From ITRI to UMC, 894 00:47:32,095 --> 00:47:35,682 with John Hsuan, Robert Hsing-cheng Tsao and I.D. Liu. 895 00:47:35,682 --> 00:47:38,894 We all thought 896 00:47:38,894 --> 00:47:41,980 this was something we could fight for. 897 00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:44,073 Taiwan's startup spirit 898 00:47:44,073 --> 00:47:48,153 could rival Silicon Valley's. 899 00:47:50,989 --> 00:47:53,950 Once you've explained the kind of help you need, 900 00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:57,412 the computer expert will show you the system that's right for you, 901 00:47:57,412 --> 00:47:59,498 show you how simple it is to get started. 902 00:47:59,498 --> 00:48:02,709 And library of business and management software 903 00:48:02,709 --> 00:48:04,419 can help you solve your problems. 904 00:48:04,419 --> 00:48:07,088 And give you a tool of modern times. 905 00:48:08,215 --> 00:48:10,550 Another key to UMC's success 906 00:48:10,550 --> 00:48:16,389 was the rise of the PC era, heralded by IBM in 1981. 907 00:48:16,389 --> 00:48:19,851 Taiwan's PC and chip industries 908 00:48:19,851 --> 00:48:21,520 are uniquely positioned. 909 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,149 We were ready. 910 00:48:26,149 --> 00:48:28,276 All we needed was a spark. 911 00:48:29,069 --> 00:48:30,779 In the '80s, Taiwan's economy took off. 912 00:48:30,779 --> 00:48:32,906 In the '80s, Taiwan's economy took off. 913 00:48:32,906 --> 00:48:36,284 It not only gave semiconductors a cluster effect 914 00:48:36,284 --> 00:48:39,996 but also caught the wave of global silicon tech. 915 00:48:41,206 --> 00:48:44,292 Today, areas around Hsinchu Science Park 916 00:48:44,292 --> 00:48:48,421 boast Taiwan's youngest and richest population. 917 00:48:50,298 --> 00:48:51,407 When they were scouting 918 00:48:51,407 --> 00:48:53,426 for the site for the science park, 919 00:48:53,426 --> 00:48:55,303 President Chiang Ching-kuo 920 00:48:55,303 --> 00:48:58,223 was eyeing the old airfield in Taoyuan. 921 00:48:58,223 --> 00:49:01,851 No one dared to advise or object, 922 00:49:01,851 --> 00:49:04,187 except for Minister Shu Shien-siu. 923 00:49:04,187 --> 00:49:06,982 Shu spoke up and insisted on Hsinchu. 924 00:49:06,982 --> 00:49:11,187 He argued Hsinchu had the right ecosystem. 925 00:49:11,187 --> 00:49:15,240 Tsing Hua and Chiao Tung Universities, 926 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:17,409 and ITRI were all there. 927 00:49:17,409 --> 00:49:19,411 So, he went to see President Chiang. 928 00:49:19,411 --> 00:49:21,788 He told me later on, 929 00:49:21,788 --> 00:49:24,540 "Actually, it's because I was 930 00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:26,960 the president of Tsing Hua University 931 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,336 and I love Hsinchu." 932 00:49:29,921 --> 00:49:34,634 The science park was on 2,100 hectares. 933 00:49:34,634 --> 00:49:38,054 Three things were abundant there: 934 00:49:38,054 --> 00:49:42,475 Temples, cemeteries and military troops. 935 00:49:42,475 --> 00:49:46,771 Hsinchu Science Park began from zero. 936 00:49:46,771 --> 00:49:51,776 Our old house was as old as I was. 937 00:49:51,776 --> 00:49:55,030 When it was taken, 938 00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:57,032 it was very hard to let go. Truly, very hard. 939 00:49:57,032 --> 00:50:00,118 This used to be our old family home. 940 00:50:00,118 --> 00:50:02,078 There were rice paddies out front. 941 00:50:02,078 --> 00:50:03,812 Across the street were more fields 942 00:50:03,812 --> 00:50:05,290 and a sugarcane farm. 943 00:50:05,290 --> 00:50:09,753 There was a shooting range just past TSMC. 944 00:50:09,753 --> 00:50:12,422 We used to run after the soldiers, 945 00:50:12,422 --> 00:50:17,385 trying to sell them guavas or soda. 946 00:50:17,385 --> 00:50:18,803 Life was hard. 947 00:50:18,803 --> 00:50:22,223 Now it's all high-tech factories. 948 00:50:27,187 --> 00:50:30,123 Our family was poor 949 00:50:30,123 --> 00:50:32,274 so I started working 950 00:50:32,274 --> 00:50:35,195 at UMC before I graduated. 951 00:50:35,195 --> 00:50:36,913 We had to start from scratch. 952 00:50:36,913 --> 00:50:38,798 They trained us from the ground up. 953 00:50:38,798 --> 00:50:42,118 We learned our work mattered. 954 00:50:42,118 --> 00:50:44,871 Chips are used in cars and factories, 955 00:50:44,871 --> 00:50:47,749 in planes and even space shuttles. 956 00:50:47,749 --> 00:50:49,392 We were repeatedly told 957 00:50:49,392 --> 00:50:51,211 to be super, super careful. 958 00:50:51,211 --> 00:50:53,162 When a chip wafer broke, 959 00:50:53,162 --> 00:50:54,756 we all panicked. 960 00:50:54,756 --> 00:50:56,591 We were terrified. 961 00:50:56,591 --> 00:50:57,967 Yeah, it happened a lot. 962 00:50:57,967 --> 00:51:00,436 The sound of a chip breaking 963 00:51:00,436 --> 00:51:01,596 scared us to death. 964 00:51:01,596 --> 00:51:04,432 "Who was it? Who did that?" 965 00:51:04,432 --> 00:51:07,268 "There goes your bonus this month!" 966 00:51:07,644 --> 00:51:09,378 Eight hours under a microscope 967 00:51:09,378 --> 00:51:10,522 was total eye strain. 968 00:51:10,522 --> 00:51:11,981 The light was so bright 969 00:51:11,981 --> 00:51:15,026 we didn't even realize tears were falling. 970 00:51:15,026 --> 00:51:17,696 The company infirmary gave us cod liver oil. 971 00:51:17,696 --> 00:51:20,073 We were all poor back then. 972 00:51:20,073 --> 00:51:21,908 But the nurse was generous. 973 00:51:21,908 --> 00:51:24,661 She gave us as much as we wanted. 974 00:51:24,661 --> 00:51:25,971 Sometimes I'd take two. 975 00:51:25,971 --> 00:51:28,490 One for me, and one for my mom. 976 00:51:30,667 --> 00:51:33,044 We didn't understand stocks back then. 977 00:51:33,044 --> 00:51:34,904 Later we learned they could be cashed in. 978 00:51:34,904 --> 00:51:36,864 I still remember I sold a few UMC shares, 979 00:51:36,864 --> 00:51:39,092 and bought myself a car. 980 00:51:39,092 --> 00:51:41,970 I thought, well, stocks are great. 981 00:51:41,970 --> 00:51:43,646 They were all responsible 982 00:51:43,646 --> 00:51:48,101 and very cooperative. 983 00:51:48,101 --> 00:51:52,522 They worked overtime whenever asked. 984 00:51:52,522 --> 00:51:55,691 So the management 985 00:51:55,691 --> 00:51:59,154 was actually pretty easy. 986 00:51:59,154 --> 00:52:01,906 These two trees were gifts from my coworkers at UMC. 987 00:52:01,906 --> 00:52:04,284 They were two tiny seedlings when I got them. 988 00:52:04,284 --> 00:52:06,661 In 10 years, they've grown into big trees. 989 00:52:07,412 --> 00:52:09,539 I worked in Fab 2; she was in Fab 1. 990 00:52:09,539 --> 00:52:11,875 It was normal for us 991 00:52:11,875 --> 00:52:15,086 to meet a future spouse on the job. 992 00:52:15,086 --> 00:52:17,505 The engineers were friendly 993 00:52:17,505 --> 00:52:20,133 and always quick to help. 994 00:52:20,133 --> 00:52:21,301 That was pretty nice. 995 00:52:21,301 --> 00:52:24,053 I suppose that's how a lot of sparks flew. 996 00:52:30,602 --> 00:52:32,896 To keep the fabs running smoothly, 997 00:52:32,896 --> 00:52:35,440 the machines cannot stop running. 998 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,567 Line workers and engineers have to 999 00:52:37,567 --> 00:52:41,321 work three shifts and be on call 24/7. 1000 00:52:41,321 --> 00:52:44,324 When a problem occurs, even in the middle of the night 1001 00:52:44,324 --> 00:52:48,077 or on a typhoon day, they have to rush back to work. 1002 00:52:48,077 --> 00:52:50,622 Taiwan's living conditions 1003 00:52:50,622 --> 00:52:53,041 weren't exactly great back then. 1004 00:52:53,041 --> 00:52:56,127 People grasped any job opportunity tight. 1005 00:52:56,127 --> 00:52:58,755 A lasting memory is not having a car. 1006 00:52:58,755 --> 00:52:59,881 Then a typhoon hit. 1007 00:52:59,881 --> 00:53:02,383 The worse the situation, the more people they needed. 1008 00:53:02,383 --> 00:53:05,804 So, I left home despite the storm. 1009 00:53:05,804 --> 00:53:07,555 No one asked how I'd get there. 1010 00:53:07,555 --> 00:53:10,767 You just found a way to show up. 1011 00:53:11,351 --> 00:53:13,686 You could say, Taiwanese workers are simply more willing. 1012 00:53:13,686 --> 00:53:15,063 We're willing to take on the jobs 1013 00:53:15,063 --> 00:53:17,148 others don't want to do. 1014 00:53:17,148 --> 00:53:20,092 That's how, from the labor-intensive to tech-intensive industries, 1015 00:53:20,092 --> 00:53:22,320 Taiwan was able to level up. 1016 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,446 Taiwan's advantage is in manufacturing. 1017 00:53:24,446 --> 00:53:26,866 Our engineers work hard. 1018 00:53:26,866 --> 00:53:29,285 Honestly, our salaries aren't high. 1019 00:53:29,285 --> 00:53:32,455 Compared to global standards, 1020 00:53:32,455 --> 00:53:34,056 Taiwanese engineers earn only 1021 00:53:34,056 --> 00:53:35,792 a third of that from Silicon Valley. 1022 00:53:35,792 --> 00:53:37,660 But they're willing to work overtime 1023 00:53:37,660 --> 00:53:39,254 with long hours, 1024 00:53:39,254 --> 00:53:40,829 even to get called back 1025 00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:42,614 in the middle of the night. 1026 00:53:42,614 --> 00:53:45,176 That's the culture that built 1027 00:53:45,176 --> 00:53:47,262 Taiwan's strength in manufacturing. 1028 00:54:21,629 --> 00:54:23,590 Today, we're here to witness 1029 00:54:23,590 --> 00:54:26,676 the inaugural KT Li Award presentation. 1030 00:54:26,676 --> 00:54:28,711 First, congratulations to its first recipient, 1031 00:54:28,711 --> 00:54:30,597 TSMC Founder Morris Chang. 1032 00:54:30,597 --> 00:54:31,847 Later this month, 1033 00:54:31,847 --> 00:54:33,558 Mr. Chang will represent me 1034 00:54:33,558 --> 00:54:35,392 at the APEC Economic Leaders' Meeting 1035 00:54:35,392 --> 00:54:36,769 for the sixth time, 1036 00:54:36,769 --> 00:54:38,771 once again showing the world that 1037 00:54:38,771 --> 00:54:43,151 Taiwan is a capable and trusted partner. 1038 00:54:47,363 --> 00:54:50,575 I'd also like to introduce a special guest. 1039 00:54:50,575 --> 00:54:54,954 Welcome to Nvidia's Mr. Jensen Huang and his wife. 1040 00:54:54,954 --> 00:54:57,790 TSMC makes chips for every industry today. 1041 00:54:57,790 --> 00:55:02,253 No company today or in history 1042 00:55:02,253 --> 00:55:08,009 has ever had the reach and impact of TSMC. 1043 00:55:08,009 --> 00:55:12,472 Elephants can dance. 1044 00:55:12,472 --> 00:55:17,143 Morris raised one that jumps through hoops. 1045 00:55:21,856 --> 00:55:24,359 And without TSMC, 1046 00:55:24,359 --> 00:55:28,446 the entire world's technology industries today would not be possible. 1047 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,874 In 1976, I was invited by METS 1048 00:55:39,874 --> 00:55:43,419 to give a speech in Taiwan. 1049 00:55:43,419 --> 00:55:50,393 I was at the peak of my career 1050 00:55:50,393 --> 00:55:52,387 at Texas Instruments. 1051 00:55:52,387 --> 00:55:56,140 Mr. KT Li was in the audience. 1052 00:55:56,140 --> 00:55:59,201 After the speech, he came right over 1053 00:55:59,201 --> 00:56:03,231 to shake my hand and invited me to dinner. 1054 00:56:03,231 --> 00:56:06,025 The first time KT invited Morris Chang over, 1055 00:56:06,025 --> 00:56:08,319 I was asked to show him around. 1056 00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:10,488 The whole industry in Taiwan 1057 00:56:10,488 --> 00:56:13,700 was smaller than Hewlett-Packard. 1058 00:56:13,700 --> 00:56:15,201 But still, I took him to see 1059 00:56:15,201 --> 00:56:17,412 what Taiwan's electronics industry looked like. 1060 00:56:17,412 --> 00:56:19,914 After the visit, I also wrote a report. 1061 00:56:19,914 --> 00:56:25,420 Taiwan's industry wasn't very flattering at the time. 1062 00:56:25,420 --> 00:56:30,258 But the report itself was immaterial. 1063 00:56:30,258 --> 00:56:33,302 It was not even that important 1064 00:56:33,302 --> 00:56:36,222 because I think 1065 00:56:36,222 --> 00:56:38,266 KT's true intention was 1066 00:56:38,266 --> 00:56:41,352 to get me to come to Taiwan. 1067 00:56:41,352 --> 00:56:45,273 None of my recommendations were adopted. 1068 00:56:46,649 --> 00:56:49,277 In Taiwan's early development, 1069 00:56:49,277 --> 00:56:51,529 we often struggled with self-doubt, 1070 00:56:51,529 --> 00:56:55,783 wondering when 1071 00:56:55,783 --> 00:56:59,203 a truly capable leader would emerge. 1072 00:56:59,203 --> 00:57:01,080 Morris Chang stood out early on 1073 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,817 as a leading figure 1074 00:57:03,817 --> 00:57:05,793 in the global semiconductor industry, 1075 00:57:05,793 --> 00:57:12,008 someone Taiwan's government could trust. 1076 00:57:12,008 --> 00:57:17,513 In 1985, I was at General Instrument. 1077 00:57:17,513 --> 00:57:21,484 That's when Shu Shien-siu 1078 00:57:21,484 --> 00:57:22,977 came to recruit me. 1079 00:57:22,977 --> 00:57:25,313 My first task was to lead ITRI. 1080 00:57:25,313 --> 00:57:29,817 But the real mission was 1081 00:57:29,817 --> 00:57:33,905 to establish a semiconductor company. 1082 00:57:33,905 --> 00:57:40,421 KT asked to see me 1083 00:57:40,421 --> 00:57:44,573 three weeks after 1084 00:57:44,573 --> 00:57:46,751 I started my job at ITRI. 1085 00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:51,172 From 1985 until the founding of TSMC. 1086 00:57:51,172 --> 00:57:55,134 Indeed, TSMC wouldn't be here without KT. 1087 00:57:59,388 --> 00:58:02,600 To keep up with global silicon technology, 1088 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,697 ITRI launched 1089 00:58:03,697 --> 00:58:06,938 the VLSI (Very-Large-Scale Integration) Development Project. 1090 00:58:07,897 --> 00:58:14,070 In a decade, Taiwan invited Morris Chang back three times. 1091 00:58:14,070 --> 00:58:16,948 Behind this eagerness and urgency 1092 00:58:16,948 --> 00:58:20,076 was a nation grappling with its fate. 1093 00:58:20,952 --> 00:58:25,790 In 1985, Chang finally returned 1094 00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:28,376 and became the President of ITRI. 1095 00:58:28,376 --> 00:58:29,818 He asked Hu Ding-hua 1096 00:58:29,818 --> 00:58:32,630 to draw up a TSMC proposal. 1097 00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:35,224 They submitted it to the Executive Yuan 1098 00:58:35,224 --> 00:58:37,193 and presented it to 1099 00:58:37,193 --> 00:58:38,970 then Premier Yu Kuo-hwa. 1100 00:58:39,887 --> 00:58:43,516 On September 10, 1985, 1101 00:58:43,516 --> 00:58:49,105 Chang presented Taiwan's VLSI roadmap 1102 00:58:49,105 --> 00:58:51,941 to top government officials 1103 00:58:51,941 --> 00:58:53,416 from the Executive Yuan and 1104 00:58:53,416 --> 00:58:56,904 the Council for Economic Planning and Development. 1105 00:58:56,904 --> 00:58:59,657 At that time, Taiwan was just 1106 00:58:59,657 --> 00:59:01,701 beginning to consider investing in VLSI. 1107 00:59:01,701 --> 00:59:03,161 But the proposal mentions that 1108 00:59:03,161 --> 00:59:05,496 the U.S., Western Europe and Japan 1109 00:59:05,496 --> 00:59:08,875 were already deep in the race. 1110 00:59:08,875 --> 00:59:12,044 There wouldn't be short-term profit. 1111 00:59:12,044 --> 00:59:13,495 For Taiwan, also known as 1112 00:59:13,495 --> 00:59:15,131 the Republic of China (R.O.C.), 1113 00:59:15,131 --> 00:59:17,334 VLSI was a long-term gamble 1114 00:59:17,334 --> 00:59:19,427 with high stakes. 1115 00:59:19,427 --> 00:59:21,170 It was a gamble that demanded 1116 00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:24,390 serious consideration. 1117 00:59:24,891 --> 00:59:27,143 Building a transistor is like building a house. 1118 00:59:27,143 --> 00:59:29,312 But you will slowly realize that 1119 00:59:29,312 --> 00:59:33,191 to build houses into a community, 1120 00:59:33,191 --> 00:59:34,783 that community takes 1121 00:59:34,783 --> 00:59:36,235 infrastructure and design. 1122 00:59:36,235 --> 00:59:37,904 Today, 1123 00:59:37,904 --> 00:59:40,364 the Very-Large-Scale Integration (VLSI) 1124 00:59:40,364 --> 00:59:42,950 isn't just a house. 1125 00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:45,411 It's the making of a city. 1126 00:59:46,245 --> 00:59:48,915 Why did the government get involved? 1127 00:59:48,915 --> 00:59:51,584 Why not leave it to private companies? 1128 00:59:51,584 --> 00:59:54,253 We wanted the technology to take root in Taiwan. 1129 00:59:54,253 --> 00:59:58,799 Self-developed and under our control. 1130 00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:00,176 That's why they did it. 1131 01:00:00,176 --> 01:00:02,319 Otherwise, we could've just relied 1132 01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:04,096 on technology transfer forever. 1133 01:00:04,096 --> 01:00:08,100 Buying or building, they both cost money. 1134 01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:13,564 What you buy is tried and true. 1135 01:00:13,564 --> 01:00:15,983 What you build comes with risks, 1136 01:00:15,983 --> 01:00:18,945 but you'll own it forever. 1137 01:00:18,945 --> 01:00:22,949 So yes, the government gave us money. 1138 01:00:22,949 --> 01:00:25,409 But we carried the flag to build homegrown technology. 1139 01:00:25,409 --> 01:00:28,996 It's a future we could own. 1140 01:00:30,998 --> 01:00:33,876 Presidential Decree: Taiwan Area, 1141 01:00:33,876 --> 01:00:38,839 Martial law lifted effective July 15, 1987, at 00:00. 1142 01:00:48,474 --> 01:00:51,644 ITRI's second major tech transfer plan succeeded. 1143 01:00:51,644 --> 01:00:54,272 Led by Morris Chang, then President of ITRI, 1144 01:00:54,272 --> 01:00:56,357 TSMC was born. 1145 01:00:56,941 --> 01:00:59,151 Looking back at 1987, 1146 01:00:59,151 --> 01:01:01,946 it was a pivotal year for Taiwan's political, 1147 01:01:01,946 --> 01:01:05,157 economic and social transformation. 1148 01:01:05,157 --> 01:01:07,201 The funding wasn't raised 1149 01:01:07,201 --> 01:01:09,245 entirely by Morris Chang. 1150 01:01:09,245 --> 01:01:12,206 He had just gotten back. How could he have done it? 1151 01:01:12,206 --> 01:01:14,884 It was KT Li who got the money 1152 01:01:14,884 --> 01:01:17,169 from the government. 1153 01:01:17,169 --> 01:01:19,563 He brought in Chiao Tung Bank 1154 01:01:19,563 --> 01:01:21,966 and persuaded Philips 1155 01:01:21,966 --> 01:01:25,511 to invest in 27% of the company. 1156 01:01:25,511 --> 01:01:26,762 He even convinced 1157 01:01:26,762 --> 01:01:28,288 business tycoon Wang Yung-ching. 1158 01:01:28,288 --> 01:01:29,932 Wang said, "Mr. Li, 1159 01:01:29,932 --> 01:01:32,435 I don't know what a semiconductor is, 1160 01:01:32,435 --> 01:01:34,770 but I'll invest if you ask me to." 1161 01:01:34,770 --> 01:01:36,397 Rumor has it that 1162 01:01:36,397 --> 01:01:38,741 Wang regretted that 1163 01:01:38,741 --> 01:01:40,693 he sold the stocks too soon. 1164 01:01:40,693 --> 01:01:42,862 He told his people 1165 01:01:42,862 --> 01:01:44,512 that he lost the equivalent of 1166 01:01:44,512 --> 01:01:46,741 a billion-dollar company. 1167 01:01:46,741 --> 01:01:51,954 In Silicon Valley, we say: 1168 01:01:51,954 --> 01:01:54,373 You either win big or lose it all. 1169 01:01:54,373 --> 01:01:56,625 Winner takes all. 1170 01:01:56,625 --> 01:01:59,628 Whoever wins takes it all. 1171 01:01:59,628 --> 01:02:01,380 Whoever wins takes the whole game. 1172 01:02:01,380 --> 01:02:04,967 Morris had the guts to go all in. 1173 01:02:04,967 --> 01:02:06,225 And KT Li dared to back 1174 01:02:06,225 --> 01:02:08,054 TSMC and UMC with massive funding. 1175 01:02:08,054 --> 01:02:10,765 It was unheard of. 1176 01:02:10,765 --> 01:02:12,974 Having listened to the talk in 1987, 1177 01:02:12,974 --> 01:02:15,018 my boss at IBM said, 1178 01:02:15,018 --> 01:02:17,680 "Taiwan thinks it can catch up 1179 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,399 by manufacturing chips 1180 01:02:20,399 --> 01:02:25,071 without original design?" 1181 01:02:25,071 --> 01:02:28,616 He laughed and said, "That's crazy." 1182 01:02:28,616 --> 01:02:29,533 Crazy. 1183 01:02:29,533 --> 01:02:32,286 Even the industrial sector was not optimistic 1184 01:02:32,286 --> 01:02:36,374 about TSMC's bold move into pure-play foundry. 1185 01:02:36,374 --> 01:02:39,502 At the time, contract manufacturing and OEM 1186 01:02:39,502 --> 01:02:42,046 was seen as low-tech and low-margin. 1187 01:02:42,046 --> 01:02:44,715 In 1987, "Made in Taiwan" 1188 01:02:44,715 --> 01:02:48,219 was even the butt of a joke in a Hollywood film. 1189 01:03:00,981 --> 01:03:04,235 Come on, come on. 1190 01:03:13,744 --> 01:03:15,037 Is it made in Taiwan? 1191 01:03:15,037 --> 01:03:17,415 Yeah. These are tough to find. 1192 01:03:22,711 --> 01:03:24,130 If you're truly brilliant, 1193 01:03:24,130 --> 01:03:27,091 will you choose to be an OEM? 1194 01:03:27,091 --> 01:03:30,761 Wouldn't you rather create something new? 1195 01:03:30,761 --> 01:03:33,055 Foundry work means vanishing 1196 01:03:33,055 --> 01:03:35,474 into someone else's machine, 1197 01:03:35,474 --> 01:03:37,601 blending in with someone else's products. 1198 01:03:37,601 --> 01:03:39,562 You'd always be an unsung hero. 1199 01:03:39,562 --> 01:03:43,524 In the late 1990s, we were OEMs. 1200 01:03:43,524 --> 01:03:46,610 I believe many looked down on Taiwan. 1201 01:03:46,610 --> 01:03:49,822 How could OEMs be great? 1202 01:03:49,822 --> 01:03:51,073 That's just impossible. 1203 01:03:51,073 --> 01:03:53,367 I think the amazing thing about Taiwan is 1204 01:03:53,367 --> 01:04:01,459 it never let the stigma of OEM 1205 01:04:01,459 --> 01:04:03,869 limit its imagination of 1206 01:04:03,869 --> 01:04:06,255 what foundry could become. 1207 01:04:07,882 --> 01:04:12,219 The decision to start TSMC was a big gamble for Taiwan. 1208 01:04:12,970 --> 01:04:15,097 At ITRI, Hu and Shih 1209 01:04:15,097 --> 01:04:18,350 did their best to talk Tseng Fan-cheng into 1210 01:04:18,350 --> 01:04:21,645 leading the R&D team at TSMC. 1211 01:04:22,313 --> 01:04:26,358 Tseng became TSMC's first local hire. 1212 01:04:28,611 --> 01:04:31,530 (You came back and found Shih and Hu waiting for you.) 1213 01:04:31,530 --> 01:04:33,157 (What was that like?) 1214 01:04:33,157 --> 01:04:37,119 Shih asked me to take the job. 1215 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:39,220 They said if I didn't, 1216 01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:41,373 there'd be no one to lead the team. 1217 01:04:41,373 --> 01:04:46,962 So, I said yes. 1218 01:04:46,962 --> 01:04:49,089 We'd have been done for if he had refused. 1219 01:04:49,089 --> 01:04:51,091 (But how did you manage to persuade him?) 1220 01:04:51,091 --> 01:04:53,511 I said if he didn't do it, we'd be doomed. 1221 01:04:53,511 --> 01:04:56,138 He was the one who understood IC production, 1222 01:04:56,138 --> 01:04:58,724 including R&D operations. 1223 01:04:58,724 --> 01:05:00,267 I said, "If you don't accept the job, 1224 01:05:00,267 --> 01:05:03,854 starting this company will be pointless." 1225 01:05:03,854 --> 01:05:06,815 He couldn't name anyone else to take the job, either. 1226 01:05:09,276 --> 01:05:11,237 Then Hu told me, 1227 01:05:11,237 --> 01:05:12,863 "You're driving on the highway. 1228 01:05:12,863 --> 01:05:16,283 You can't get off until the next exit. 1229 01:05:16,283 --> 01:05:17,910 You can't jump out of the car halfway." 1230 01:05:19,161 --> 01:05:20,746 Situated at ITRI, 1231 01:05:20,746 --> 01:05:22,581 this unassuming office building 1232 01:05:22,581 --> 01:05:25,793 was leased to TSMC back in the days. 1233 01:05:25,793 --> 01:05:28,629 It became TSMC Fab 1. 1234 01:05:28,629 --> 01:05:33,092 Now, this landmark quietly stands as a witness to history. 1235 01:05:34,927 --> 01:05:38,722 The winter of 1990 was bitterly cold. 1236 01:05:38,722 --> 01:05:41,683 I was the R&D manager. 1237 01:05:41,683 --> 01:05:44,645 I had 23 people 1238 01:05:44,645 --> 01:05:50,109 who were driving process R&D. 1239 01:05:50,109 --> 01:05:51,760 I was called a manager, 1240 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,738 but in reality I was the head of R&D. 1241 01:05:54,738 --> 01:05:59,243 I remember that one day, 1242 01:05:59,243 --> 01:06:01,237 I spent all morning trying 1243 01:06:01,237 --> 01:06:03,163 to talk people out of leaving. 1244 01:06:03,163 --> 01:06:06,292 Many were headed to Macronix. 1245 01:06:06,292 --> 01:06:08,276 I asked them why. 1246 01:06:08,276 --> 01:06:09,878 "Isn't TSMC a nice place?" 1247 01:06:09,878 --> 01:06:11,922 They said, "TSMC has no products. 1248 01:06:11,922 --> 01:06:15,509 An OEM has no future." 1249 01:06:17,303 --> 01:06:20,264 In just a few days, 1250 01:06:20,264 --> 01:06:23,726 I lost a third of my team. Seven quit. 1251 01:06:23,726 --> 01:06:27,646 Only 16 or 17 remained. 1252 01:06:28,564 --> 01:06:33,360 Nobody expected us to do well, 1253 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,280 not even ourselves. 1254 01:06:44,330 --> 01:06:46,248 Morris Chang knew from the start 1255 01:06:46,248 --> 01:06:51,378 that we had to reach the global market. 1256 01:06:51,378 --> 01:06:54,256 If we only served 1257 01:06:54,256 --> 01:06:55,674 local design houses in Taiwan 1258 01:06:55,674 --> 01:06:57,009 we were bound to fail. 1259 01:06:57,009 --> 01:06:59,094 So even at the company's founding, 1260 01:06:59,094 --> 01:07:01,762 he approached Intel and Philips 1261 01:07:01,762 --> 01:07:04,933 for a technology agreement. 1262 01:07:04,933 --> 01:07:06,985 When I first reported to Mr. Chang, 1263 01:07:06,985 --> 01:07:10,230 he said we had to lead in technology. 1264 01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:11,640 I thought I did my best 1265 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,067 to gently inform Mr. Chang that, 1266 01:07:13,067 --> 01:07:19,990 if we wanted to be the leader, 1267 01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:22,326 it would cost us dearly. 1268 01:07:22,326 --> 01:07:25,621 Second place is safer. 1269 01:07:25,621 --> 01:07:29,375 You need only one third of the R&D cost, 1270 01:07:29,375 --> 01:07:31,543 and you won't trail far behind. 1271 01:07:31,543 --> 01:07:34,463 Maybe by only six months to a year. 1272 01:07:34,463 --> 01:07:36,632 You'll be drafting off the leader. 1273 01:07:36,632 --> 01:07:41,470 I laid out the case for being second. 1274 01:07:41,470 --> 01:07:43,722 But he looked me straight 1275 01:07:43,722 --> 01:07:46,308 in the eye and said strictly: 1276 01:07:46,308 --> 01:07:48,394 "We should never think that way." 1277 01:07:49,228 --> 01:07:52,398 TSMC's rise to No. 1 in chip foundry 1278 01:07:52,398 --> 01:07:57,361 was built on in-house R&D and relentless yield improvement. 1279 01:07:57,361 --> 01:08:00,447 Launching the "Five Mountains Plan" in 1998 1280 01:08:00,447 --> 01:08:03,909 and refusing to collaborate with IBM in 2000 1281 01:08:03,909 --> 01:08:07,830 were two turning points that anchored its future trajectory. 1282 01:08:07,830 --> 01:08:10,457 We couldn't name the clients aloud due to NDAs. 1283 01:08:10,457 --> 01:08:14,294 So, I named the plan after Taiwan's five sacred mountains, 1284 01:08:14,294 --> 01:08:16,672 each mountain stood for one company. 1285 01:08:16,672 --> 01:08:22,553 They were Mt. Snow, Mt. Jade, Mt. Nanhu, 1286 01:08:22,553 --> 01:08:26,515 Mt. Xiuguluan and Mt. Beidawu. 1287 01:08:26,515 --> 01:08:29,226 The "Five Mountains Plan" involved partnering with 1288 01:08:29,226 --> 01:08:33,230 five global IDMs to manufacture chips in parallel. 1289 01:08:33,230 --> 01:08:37,568 TSMC aimed to elevate its technology through collaboration. 1290 01:08:37,568 --> 01:08:40,195 When I proposed this idea, the team had doubts, 1291 01:08:40,195 --> 01:08:43,782 worrying that there'd be too many types of clients to handle. 1292 01:08:43,782 --> 01:08:46,210 I said if we couldn't beat them now, 1293 01:08:46,210 --> 01:08:47,903 we would never be able to scale up. 1294 01:08:47,903 --> 01:08:49,872 That's why I fought to win IDM customers. 1295 01:08:49,872 --> 01:08:52,109 That's why I launched 1296 01:08:52,109 --> 01:08:54,335 the Five Mountains Plan. 1297 01:08:54,835 --> 01:08:57,838 Pushing for self-reliant R&D wasn't easy. 1298 01:08:57,838 --> 01:08:59,631 In 2000, 1299 01:08:59,631 --> 01:09:04,970 a senior VP of IBM came to Taiwan. 1300 01:09:04,970 --> 01:09:08,515 He said, "We have the tech. 1301 01:09:08,515 --> 01:09:13,896 We could teach you. 1302 01:09:13,896 --> 01:09:16,523 Just send your team to New York. 1303 01:09:16,523 --> 01:09:18,567 We can teach you and you'll get to bring it home. 1304 01:09:18,567 --> 01:09:21,653 You just need to pay the license fee." 1305 01:09:24,406 --> 01:09:28,285 IBM was a giant at that time. 1306 01:09:28,285 --> 01:09:33,490 In 1999, IBM invited us 1307 01:09:33,490 --> 01:09:38,670 into a joint R&D project. 1308 01:09:39,421 --> 01:09:41,465 But IBM's terms and conditions were absurd. 1309 01:09:41,465 --> 01:09:43,967 TSMC had to shut down its own R&D. 1310 01:09:44,635 --> 01:09:46,303 I said I can't stop TSMC's R&D. 1311 01:09:46,303 --> 01:09:47,346 But UMC joined IBM. 1312 01:09:47,346 --> 01:09:49,397 Chang was a bit annoyed 1313 01:09:49,397 --> 01:09:51,683 with me at the time. 1314 01:09:51,683 --> 01:09:54,061 "Why didn't you run this by me?" 1315 01:09:54,061 --> 01:09:56,063 I said, "I did ask you once. 1316 01:09:56,063 --> 01:09:58,482 But if giving up R&D is the price, I won't pay it." 1317 01:09:58,482 --> 01:10:00,442 That was my line. 1318 01:10:00,442 --> 01:10:02,528 I never backed down. 1319 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,321 Tseng's resolve 1320 01:10:04,321 --> 01:10:08,450 led TSMC down a difficult R&D path, 1321 01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:11,620 but it proved to be the road to success. 1322 01:10:11,620 --> 01:10:13,372 To stay competitive, 1323 01:10:13,372 --> 01:10:16,667 UMC also turned into a foundry. 1324 01:10:16,667 --> 01:10:20,003 It briefly became TSMC's biggest rival, 1325 01:10:20,003 --> 01:10:24,758 but in just two years TSMC pulled ahead of IBM, 1326 01:10:24,758 --> 01:10:28,595 while UMC's partnership with IBM fell apart. 1327 01:10:29,888 --> 01:10:31,572 Many industries in Taiwan 1328 01:10:31,572 --> 01:10:33,308 rely on licensed tech. 1329 01:10:33,308 --> 01:10:35,644 In the end, they never grow big. 1330 01:10:37,020 --> 01:10:42,442 DRAM and panels, same story. 1331 01:10:42,442 --> 01:10:45,070 I think this is the key, 1332 01:10:45,070 --> 01:10:46,196 not only to TSMC, 1333 01:10:46,196 --> 01:10:49,457 but also when it comes to 1334 01:10:49,457 --> 01:10:52,828 Taiwan's industrial upgrade. 1335 01:10:52,828 --> 01:10:55,163 It's not just about making money. 1336 01:10:55,163 --> 01:11:00,002 Making more money isn't the priority. 1337 01:11:00,002 --> 01:11:04,840 What matters is staying in the game. 1338 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,468 I believe TSMC decided at the time 1339 01:11:08,468 --> 01:11:12,890 to build its own R&D capability. 1340 01:11:12,890 --> 01:11:16,768 I guess that's why they hired me. 1341 01:11:18,103 --> 01:11:20,230 You can look at it this way. It's easier to shoot. 1342 01:11:20,230 --> 01:11:22,399 I used to use this 8mm camera a lot. 1343 01:11:27,613 --> 01:11:28,906 I studied optics. 1344 01:11:28,906 --> 01:11:31,132 I never dreamed of working 1345 01:11:31,132 --> 01:11:33,660 on optics in a chip company. 1346 01:11:33,660 --> 01:11:35,871 But it turns out that optics is very critical 1347 01:11:35,871 --> 01:11:38,332 and not many people understand it. 1348 01:11:38,332 --> 01:11:42,044 They knew semiconductors well, but not as much for optics. 1349 01:11:42,961 --> 01:11:44,463 Dr. Burn J. Lin's immersion lithography 1350 01:11:44,463 --> 01:11:46,089 Dr. Burn J. Lin's immersion lithography 1351 01:11:46,089 --> 01:11:47,925 broke Moore's Law 1352 01:11:47,925 --> 01:11:53,305 and let TSMC shape industry standards for the very first time. 1353 01:11:53,305 --> 01:11:57,643 I saw some young people from church once. 1354 01:11:57,643 --> 01:12:00,395 They also worked at TSMC. 1355 01:12:00,395 --> 01:12:02,798 They said Mr. Lin seemed 1356 01:12:02,798 --> 01:12:05,150 to be under a lot of stress. 1357 01:12:05,150 --> 01:12:07,527 I said, "Really? I can't tell." 1358 01:12:07,527 --> 01:12:10,322 They told me the decision he made 1359 01:12:10,322 --> 01:12:15,077 would affect TSMC for the next 5 years. 1360 01:12:15,077 --> 01:12:17,537 It was only the beginning. 1361 01:12:17,537 --> 01:12:20,666 They said the stress was enormous 1362 01:12:20,666 --> 01:12:22,793 because he had to succeed. 1363 01:12:22,793 --> 01:12:24,419 I asked him after I got home. 1364 01:12:24,419 --> 01:12:26,964 He said he'd take it one step at a time. 1365 01:12:26,964 --> 01:12:28,465 It was alright. 1366 01:12:28,465 --> 01:12:33,512 She's right. Usually, I show 1367 01:12:33,512 --> 01:12:35,555 no ups or downs 1368 01:12:35,555 --> 01:12:38,392 because I believe in God. 1369 01:12:38,392 --> 01:12:40,268 Someone at work once asked me, 1370 01:12:40,268 --> 01:12:42,104 "If your idea's so good, 1371 01:12:42,104 --> 01:12:45,315 why hasn't Intel done it?" 1372 01:12:45,315 --> 01:12:47,651 I said, "If we wait for Intel to do it, 1373 01:12:47,651 --> 01:12:50,278 how will we ever lead?" 1374 01:12:51,613 --> 01:12:54,992 In the global arena of high-tech competition, 1375 01:12:54,992 --> 01:12:57,911 only by relying on tech self-reliance 1376 01:12:57,911 --> 01:13:00,539 can one secure a leading position. 1377 01:13:01,206 --> 01:13:03,542 Looking back at where we came from, 1378 01:13:03,542 --> 01:13:06,003 for these seed engineers, 1379 01:13:06,003 --> 01:13:09,214 wasn't this the future they had always hoped for? 1380 01:13:11,383 --> 01:13:13,427 Turn right ahead. I think it's the second right. 1381 01:13:13,427 --> 01:13:16,138 We're navigating by memory now. 1382 01:13:16,138 --> 01:13:18,932 Every summer when mangoes were in season, 1383 01:13:18,932 --> 01:13:20,392 my father would send me a box. 1384 01:13:20,392 --> 01:13:24,438 After I ate them, I buried the pits, 1385 01:13:24,438 --> 01:13:26,690 and a tree grew out of them. 1386 01:13:27,357 --> 01:13:28,900 You said it was over 40 years ago? 1387 01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:32,654 When I moved here, it was 1983. 1388 01:13:32,654 --> 01:13:34,948 So you've never tasted one? 1389 01:13:34,948 --> 01:13:36,783 None from this tree. 1390 01:13:36,783 --> 01:13:39,036 They should save one or two for you when they harvest. 1391 01:13:39,036 --> 01:13:44,041 It's like a tech transfer. 1392 01:13:44,041 --> 01:13:47,210 I brought it here, and it grew. 1393 01:13:47,210 --> 01:13:49,296 I didn't think it would bear fruit, 1394 01:13:49,296 --> 01:13:52,007 but it did the very next year. 1395 01:13:54,259 --> 01:13:57,763 I haven't been back to the dorm in years. 1396 01:13:57,763 --> 01:13:59,890 And now, look how tall it's grown. 1397 01:14:21,203 --> 01:14:23,080 (Do you often come here to exercise?) 1398 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,665 Yes, the sight of ducks is relaxing. 1399 01:14:25,665 --> 01:14:28,835 Walking with MediaTek Chairman Tsai by the lake, 1400 01:14:28,835 --> 01:14:31,088 we talked about Taiwan's tech industry 1401 01:14:31,088 --> 01:14:34,466 and the rapid business cycles it survives. 1402 01:14:34,466 --> 01:14:37,886 Suddenly he saw the lake full of lotus in bloom. 1403 01:14:37,886 --> 01:14:40,847 He turned and asked me, "What's next?" 1404 01:14:40,847 --> 01:14:43,266 Look at all these blossoms. 1405 01:14:43,266 --> 01:14:48,688 They remind me of our products. 1406 01:14:48,688 --> 01:14:51,650 When they bloom, they bloom big. 1407 01:14:51,650 --> 01:14:54,861 Millions are sold every year. 1408 01:14:55,695 --> 01:14:56,971 When it rains, 1409 01:14:56,971 --> 01:14:58,698 it's like a financial crisis. 1410 01:14:59,324 --> 01:15:01,326 These cycles come every year. 1411 01:15:01,326 --> 01:15:03,078 So when I see this, 1412 01:15:03,078 --> 01:15:05,605 I wonder, "What's next?" 1413 01:15:12,963 --> 01:15:16,341 "What's next?" is not only a test of business cycle, 1414 01:15:16,341 --> 01:15:20,846 but also a question of national direction and survival. 1415 01:15:27,602 --> 01:15:30,981 Taiwan was really poor back then. 1416 01:15:30,981 --> 01:15:34,526 We had no money, no technology, no talent. 1417 01:15:34,526 --> 01:15:38,238 At the time, everything was hard. 1418 01:15:38,238 --> 01:15:41,324 Another thing is, no one knew who we were. 1419 01:15:41,324 --> 01:15:43,118 What's Taiwan? What's ITRI? 1420 01:15:43,118 --> 01:15:44,619 No one had heard of it. 1421 01:15:44,619 --> 01:15:46,454 That was the hardest part. 1422 01:15:46,454 --> 01:15:48,540 I remember that after each project, 1423 01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:50,667 my team would ask, "Was the mission done? 1424 01:15:50,667 --> 01:15:52,210 Could we stop now?" 1425 01:15:52,210 --> 01:15:54,095 But we realized we couldn't, 1426 01:15:54,095 --> 01:15:55,964 because the world kept changing. 1427 01:15:57,382 --> 01:16:01,887 Every round of industrial competition is a high-stakes gamble. 1428 01:16:01,887 --> 01:16:04,973 Success is never guaranteed. 1429 01:16:04,973 --> 01:16:08,894 For example, after establishing TSMC, 1430 01:16:08,894 --> 01:16:12,314 ITRI launched the Submicron Project, 1431 01:16:12,314 --> 01:16:15,025 hoping Taiwan could become the world's fourth 1432 01:16:15,025 --> 01:16:19,112 to produce advanced DRAM with self-developed tech. 1433 01:16:19,112 --> 01:16:22,032 But the project suffered a brutal setback. 1434 01:16:22,032 --> 01:16:25,660 Around 1990, Taiwan's PC boom, 1435 01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:27,170 led by Acer and MiTAC, had begun. 1436 01:16:27,170 --> 01:16:29,915 Suddenly we found ourselves missing two critical components: 1437 01:16:29,915 --> 01:16:32,667 CPU and memory. 1438 01:16:32,667 --> 01:16:34,461 Pressure mounted on ITRI 1439 01:16:34,461 --> 01:16:36,922 to develop CPU 1440 01:16:36,922 --> 01:16:38,423 as well as memory. 1441 01:16:39,090 --> 01:16:41,551 ICs are now the key rising industry in Taiwan 1442 01:16:41,551 --> 01:16:44,012 and the crucial parts with the widest application. 1443 01:16:44,012 --> 01:16:45,680 The Submicron Lab, 1444 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,392 co-funded by 13 companies including TSMC, 1445 01:16:49,392 --> 01:16:52,938 was renamed Vanguard International Semiconductor (VIS). 1446 01:16:52,938 --> 01:16:55,089 Every seven years, 1447 01:16:55,089 --> 01:16:58,985 ITRI launched a new venture. 1448 01:16:58,985 --> 01:17:01,095 UMC was set up in 1980. 1449 01:17:01,095 --> 01:17:03,573 TSMC in 1987. 1450 01:17:03,573 --> 01:17:05,767 VIS was in 1994. 1451 01:17:05,767 --> 01:17:07,160 Again, 7 years. 1452 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,736 Something new was 1453 01:17:08,736 --> 01:17:10,455 rolled out every 7 years. 1454 01:17:10,455 --> 01:17:12,173 VIS made huge profits 1455 01:17:12,173 --> 01:17:13,833 in its first two years, 1456 01:17:13,833 --> 01:17:16,711 our net margin hit 40%. 1457 01:17:16,711 --> 01:17:19,756 Even today, TSMC doesn't come close. 1458 01:17:19,756 --> 01:17:22,676 Their profit margin is only around 20 to 30%. 1459 01:17:22,676 --> 01:17:30,141 But the good times didn't last. 1460 01:17:32,185 --> 01:17:34,104 At first, we were making big money. 1461 01:17:34,104 --> 01:17:36,898 Two years later, the global crash hit. 1462 01:17:38,024 --> 01:17:42,570 Even among Japan's "Big Ten" DRAM makers, 1463 01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:44,406 only one survived. 1464 01:17:44,406 --> 01:17:46,908 Taiwan had just stepped onto the stage, 1465 01:17:46,908 --> 01:17:50,662 and was knocked down with everyone else. 1466 01:17:50,662 --> 01:17:52,664 Then came the question: 1467 01:17:52,664 --> 01:17:54,374 Who was Vanguard's largest shareholder? 1468 01:17:54,374 --> 01:17:56,084 TSMC. 1469 01:17:58,503 --> 01:18:01,423 So, should we keep going or give up? 1470 01:18:01,423 --> 01:18:04,843 Mr. Chang met with us every day, 1471 01:18:04,843 --> 01:18:08,555 asking what we should do next. 1472 01:18:08,555 --> 01:18:10,498 He knew the answer. 1473 01:18:10,498 --> 01:18:12,767 This venture needed money. 1474 01:18:12,767 --> 01:18:15,520 As I said, it needed capital. 1475 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,024 And we were up against Korea. 1476 01:18:19,024 --> 01:18:22,569 Their banks backed the industry 1477 01:18:22,569 --> 01:18:27,032 with debt ratios up to 400%. 1478 01:18:27,032 --> 01:18:29,200 In Taiwan, we were capped at 50%. 1479 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,785 Actually this industry 1480 01:18:30,785 --> 01:18:32,553 requires one more thing: 1481 01:18:32,553 --> 01:18:34,372 Willpower. 1482 01:18:34,372 --> 01:18:36,857 When you're knocked down, 1483 01:18:36,857 --> 01:18:39,419 you get up and fight again. 1484 01:18:39,419 --> 01:18:41,664 Even if you're covered in blood and mud, 1485 01:18:41,664 --> 01:18:43,631 you must get up and keep fighting. 1486 01:18:43,631 --> 01:18:46,343 That's how you win in the end. 1487 01:18:46,343 --> 01:18:48,928 But if one punch 1488 01:18:48,928 --> 01:18:52,307 makes you quit, it's over. 1489 01:18:53,850 --> 01:18:56,561 Vanguard took a punch 1490 01:18:56,561 --> 01:18:59,481 and walked away. 1491 01:18:59,481 --> 01:19:02,275 Mr. Chang decided not to keep fighting. 1492 01:19:02,275 --> 01:19:05,570 VIS was essentially shut down 1493 01:19:05,570 --> 01:19:07,405 and shifted to contract manufacturing. 1494 01:19:10,033 --> 01:19:14,329 He announced the decision, 1495 01:19:14,329 --> 01:19:16,331 saying he'd cry with us, heads in our hands. 1496 01:19:19,959 --> 01:19:23,088 Was it the right call? 1497 01:19:23,088 --> 01:19:28,718 Or should we have kept going? 1498 01:19:28,718 --> 01:19:34,140 But history cannot be undone, or replayed. 1499 01:19:49,614 --> 01:19:51,199 A tearful declaration 1500 01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:55,662 marked the end of Taiwan's dream for DRAM self-reliance. 1501 01:19:55,662 --> 01:19:59,749 Yet it also signaled the dawn of the foundry era. 1502 01:19:59,749 --> 01:20:03,420 But the wheel of technology never slows for anyone, 1503 01:20:03,420 --> 01:20:05,630 a greater challenge was just ahead. 1504 01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:12,220 In 2007, the iPhone was born. 1505 01:20:12,220 --> 01:20:16,099 The world believed spring had come for the digital age. 1506 01:20:16,099 --> 01:20:18,435 But the global financial crisis struck 1507 01:20:18,435 --> 01:20:20,311 like a sudden blizzard. 1508 01:20:21,020 --> 01:20:24,482 Morris Chang had retired in 2005, 1509 01:20:24,482 --> 01:20:26,818 but returned to face the headwinds. 1510 01:20:26,818 --> 01:20:28,736 Back as CEO, he once again took the helm 1511 01:20:28,736 --> 01:20:31,406 guiding one of Taiwan's most vital 1512 01:20:31,406 --> 01:20:34,451 tech companies through crisis. 1513 01:20:34,451 --> 01:20:37,454 Chang continued to inspire investor confidence. 1514 01:20:37,871 --> 01:20:40,165 Facing the possibility of losses, 1515 01:20:40,165 --> 01:20:41,749 Chairman Chang's first move 1516 01:20:41,749 --> 01:20:43,751 wasn't cutting costs. 1517 01:20:43,751 --> 01:20:46,754 Chang doubled down on capital expenditures 1518 01:20:46,754 --> 01:20:50,383 because he saw the coming boom in smartphones. 1519 01:20:50,383 --> 01:20:53,261 The year after, TSMC's capex 1520 01:20:53,261 --> 01:20:54,846 more than doubled. 1521 01:20:56,806 --> 01:20:59,944 Before 2009, 1522 01:20:59,944 --> 01:21:04,067 TSMC thrived on fab efficiency, 1523 01:21:04,067 --> 01:21:07,859 yield and cost control. 1524 01:21:07,859 --> 01:21:10,945 It became a profitable 1525 01:21:10,945 --> 01:21:14,741 and well-run company. 1526 01:21:14,741 --> 01:21:20,497 From 2010 to 2015, things changed. 1527 01:21:20,497 --> 01:21:22,923 Morris stockpiled cash 1528 01:21:22,923 --> 01:21:25,960 and slammed it into R&D. 1529 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,797 Investing US$2 billion a year. 1530 01:21:29,797 --> 01:21:31,799 In a short time, the R&D team grew 1531 01:21:31,799 --> 01:21:35,470 from 700 to 3,000 people. 1532 01:21:36,638 --> 01:21:38,348 Apple is about to launch its iPhone 6, 1533 01:21:38,348 --> 01:21:41,142 powered by TSMC's new 20nm chip. 1534 01:21:41,142 --> 01:21:42,435 All eyes are on the market. 1535 01:21:42,435 --> 01:21:45,438 TSMC beat Samsung for Apple's order. 1536 01:21:45,438 --> 01:21:50,235 Among the world's top three chipmakers, 1537 01:21:50,235 --> 01:21:53,196 two were also Apple's competitors: 1538 01:21:53,196 --> 01:21:55,448 Samsung and Intel. 1539 01:21:55,448 --> 01:21:56,991 They made chips and 1540 01:21:56,991 --> 01:21:58,618 built their own brands, 1541 01:21:58,618 --> 01:22:00,828 eventually becoming a threat to Apple. 1542 01:22:00,828 --> 01:22:02,747 Apple and Samsung became direct rivals, 1543 01:22:02,747 --> 01:22:06,292 so Apple could no longer rely on Samsung. 1544 01:22:06,292 --> 01:22:08,253 And TSMC was ready. 1545 01:22:08,253 --> 01:22:10,255 That's when things took off. 1546 01:22:10,255 --> 01:22:11,672 From 2015 onwards, 1547 01:22:11,672 --> 01:22:15,134 heavyweight companies like Apple 1548 01:22:15,134 --> 01:22:19,681 became TSMC's clients. 1549 01:22:19,681 --> 01:22:22,183 That marked TSMC's final leap forward. 1550 01:22:22,183 --> 01:22:26,563 In truth, Apple was pulling us ahead. 1551 01:22:26,563 --> 01:22:32,092 We just sprinted at full speed 1552 01:22:32,092 --> 01:22:35,280 to keep up their pace. 1553 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:39,784 That phase wasn't about TSMC's own ideas. 1554 01:22:39,784 --> 01:22:42,036 The client was simply too big. 1555 01:22:42,036 --> 01:22:44,071 All we could do was give it our all 1556 01:22:44,071 --> 01:22:45,832 and follow their lead. 1557 01:22:45,832 --> 01:22:50,795 As long as they won, 1558 01:22:50,795 --> 01:22:53,464 we won as well. 1559 01:22:56,718 --> 01:22:58,678 There's a consortium in the U.S. called SEMATECH. 1560 01:22:58,678 --> 01:23:01,556 At dinner one time 1561 01:23:01,556 --> 01:23:02,599 someone asked, 1562 01:23:02,599 --> 01:23:05,393 "It takes us two years to build a new generation node. 1563 01:23:05,393 --> 01:23:08,187 Why can TSMC do it in a year or a year and a half?" 1564 01:23:08,187 --> 01:23:10,106 I said, "Let me tell you why. 1565 01:23:10,106 --> 01:23:12,358 We have three shifts of R&D engineers. 1566 01:23:12,358 --> 01:23:15,361 The graveyard shift, the night shift and the day shift. 1567 01:23:15,361 --> 01:23:18,156 Our machines run 24/7. 1568 01:23:18,156 --> 01:23:20,325 Yours run only eight hours a day. 1569 01:23:20,325 --> 01:23:22,910 That makes us three times faster. 1570 01:23:22,910 --> 01:23:25,705 Even if you're twice as smart, we still beat you." 1571 01:23:26,497 --> 01:23:29,417 In the U.S., if a machine breaks down at midnight, 1572 01:23:29,417 --> 01:23:31,377 it sits until the next morning. 1573 01:23:31,377 --> 01:23:32,720 At 8 a.m., 1574 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,089 the maintenance engineers arrive at work. 1575 01:23:35,089 --> 01:23:37,958 They grab a coffee and chat 1576 01:23:37,958 --> 01:23:39,677 before starting to fix it. 1577 01:23:39,677 --> 01:23:41,679 It'll probably be noon when they're done. 1578 01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:42,963 At TSMC, 1579 01:23:42,963 --> 01:23:45,224 if a machine breaks down at midnight, 1580 01:23:45,224 --> 01:23:46,634 we immediately call the engineers. 1581 01:23:46,634 --> 01:23:48,227 They come in right away. 1582 01:23:48,227 --> 01:23:49,771 And it's fixed by 1 or 2 a.m. 1583 01:23:49,979 --> 01:23:59,280 TSMC's revenue over the years (in NT$100M) 1584 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,824 TSMC is a deeply focused company. 1585 01:24:01,824 --> 01:24:04,869 We never set out to do everything, 1586 01:24:04,869 --> 01:24:07,497 and we know we're not great at everything. 1587 01:24:07,497 --> 01:24:10,792 But we strive to do this one thing 1588 01:24:10,792 --> 01:24:12,251 and do it to perfection. 1589 01:24:12,251 --> 01:24:14,295 As the company grew, 1590 01:24:14,295 --> 01:24:16,547 so did the temptations. 1591 01:24:16,547 --> 01:24:18,091 With more money came more questions: 1592 01:24:18,091 --> 01:24:20,968 "Should we diversify? 1593 01:24:20,968 --> 01:24:22,720 Should we invest here or there?" 1594 01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,264 But we've always been clear those are not the things we do. 1595 01:24:25,264 --> 01:24:27,408 We believe the foundry 1596 01:24:27,408 --> 01:24:29,435 is a beautiful business model. 1597 01:24:29,435 --> 01:24:30,945 No matter how the economy shifts 1598 01:24:30,945 --> 01:24:32,188 or society evolves, 1599 01:24:32,188 --> 01:24:35,183 the world will always need chips. 1600 01:24:35,183 --> 01:24:37,143 If we can be the best at this one thing, 1601 01:24:37,143 --> 01:24:39,404 we'll always have our place. 1602 01:24:55,002 --> 01:24:56,754 After 25 years, 1603 01:24:56,754 --> 01:25:00,425 the Speaker of the U.S. House 1604 01:25:00,425 --> 01:25:02,969 finally visits Taiwan again. 1605 01:25:02,969 --> 01:25:05,096 As Taiwanese, 1606 01:25:05,096 --> 01:25:07,890 let's give a warm round of applause to welcome... 1607 01:25:07,890 --> 01:25:10,810 I think that, as a matter of national strategic priority, 1608 01:25:10,810 --> 01:25:13,771 Taiwan becomes more important to the U.S. for that reason. 1609 01:25:13,771 --> 01:25:16,899 The reliance on Taiwan is quite serious. 1610 01:25:16,899 --> 01:25:20,945 The likelihood is that that would produce an economic crisis 1611 01:25:20,945 --> 01:25:24,157 that could affect, quite literally, the entire world. 1612 01:25:24,157 --> 01:25:26,951 Geopolitics is at once opportunity, challenge and destiny. 1613 01:25:26,951 --> 01:25:29,245 The U.S.-China trade war in recent years 1614 01:25:29,245 --> 01:25:32,790 at its core, is a technology war, 1615 01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:37,712 and behind that, a race in military technology. 1616 01:25:38,546 --> 01:25:41,424 I'd like to share that in recent years, 1617 01:25:41,424 --> 01:25:44,761 I've received many guests from abroad. 1618 01:25:44,761 --> 01:25:46,253 Though they come from 1619 01:25:46,253 --> 01:25:48,097 different countries and different fields, 1620 01:25:48,097 --> 01:25:51,684 they are all very interested in one thing 1621 01:25:51,684 --> 01:25:55,146 Taiwan's semiconductor industry. 1622 01:25:55,146 --> 01:25:57,396 This is the only Taiwanese manufacturer 1623 01:25:57,396 --> 01:25:59,025 founded after World War II 1624 01:25:59,025 --> 01:26:01,434 capable of competing among 1625 01:26:01,434 --> 01:26:04,655 the world's core economies. 1626 01:26:04,655 --> 01:26:06,340 This gave Taiwan a seat 1627 01:26:06,340 --> 01:26:07,950 at the Global North's table. 1628 01:26:07,950 --> 01:26:09,776 It means everything for 1629 01:26:09,776 --> 01:26:11,662 Taiwan's economic growth 1630 01:26:11,662 --> 01:26:14,207 and international standing. 1631 01:26:18,628 --> 01:26:21,380 Beijing's live-fire drills near Taiwan 1632 01:26:21,380 --> 01:26:23,883 are a provocative act 1633 01:26:23,883 --> 01:26:27,512 that challenges global norms 1634 01:26:27,512 --> 01:26:29,388 and destabilizes the Taiwan Strait. 1635 01:26:30,306 --> 01:26:35,728 In 2024, over 5,000 PLA sorties circled Taiwan. 1636 01:26:35,728 --> 01:26:38,648 Geopolitics is like a double-edged sword, 1637 01:26:38,648 --> 01:26:41,818 raising the stakes for both Taiwan's global standing 1638 01:26:41,818 --> 01:26:43,611 and its chip industry. 1639 01:26:43,611 --> 01:26:45,079 We're going to become more reliant 1640 01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:47,532 on semiconductors over the next decade. 1641 01:26:47,532 --> 01:26:48,715 And when you look at the chips 1642 01:26:48,715 --> 01:26:51,369 that are training AI systems, 1643 01:26:51,369 --> 01:26:52,686 there are just a couple of companies 1644 01:26:52,686 --> 01:26:55,081 that design chips for training AI systems. 1645 01:26:55,081 --> 01:26:56,023 And just one company that 1646 01:26:56,023 --> 01:26:57,542 produces the most important of them. 1647 01:26:57,542 --> 01:26:58,709 That is TSMC. 1648 01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:59,927 That's where there's worries, 1649 01:26:59,927 --> 01:27:01,587 that Taiwan has been so successful, 1650 01:27:01,587 --> 01:27:04,090 concentration has grown at such a degree, 1651 01:27:04,090 --> 01:27:05,466 that the concern is, 1652 01:27:05,466 --> 01:27:07,593 in case something bad happens, 1653 01:27:07,593 --> 01:27:09,203 does the entire world have 1654 01:27:09,203 --> 01:27:11,931 the ability to react to that? 1655 01:27:11,931 --> 01:27:15,059 Once that awareness sets in, 1656 01:27:15,059 --> 01:27:17,270 everything we see now is preparation. 1657 01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:20,106 If something happens to Taiwan, 1658 01:27:20,106 --> 01:27:21,750 the economic fallout 1659 01:27:21,750 --> 01:27:23,568 for the U.S. and others 1660 01:27:23,568 --> 01:27:27,697 could be devastating. 1661 01:27:27,697 --> 01:27:30,723 Every country is trying 1662 01:27:30,723 --> 01:27:34,120 to reshape a supply chain 1663 01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,079 that's secure and shielded 1664 01:27:36,079 --> 01:27:37,790 from geopolitical risk. 1665 01:27:37,790 --> 01:27:39,667 In this global climate, 1666 01:27:39,667 --> 01:27:41,711 is it a challenge for Taiwan? 1667 01:27:41,711 --> 01:27:44,463 Is it a challenge for TSMC? Absolutely. 1668 01:27:54,432 --> 01:27:58,060 But when there's unrest in the world 1669 01:27:58,060 --> 01:28:02,690 as it is today, 1670 01:28:02,690 --> 01:28:06,944 TSMC becomes 1671 01:28:06,944 --> 01:28:11,403 a key battleground 1672 01:28:11,403 --> 01:28:15,070 for geopolitical strategists. 1673 01:28:16,662 --> 01:28:18,671 When you become the key battleground 1674 01:28:18,671 --> 01:28:20,749 in a global power struggle, 1675 01:28:20,749 --> 01:28:24,712 it puts you in a difficult position. 1676 01:28:24,712 --> 01:28:26,314 Our success doesn't lie 1677 01:28:26,314 --> 01:28:27,757 in threatening others. 1678 01:28:27,757 --> 01:28:31,802 We serve our clients' interests 1679 01:28:31,802 --> 01:28:33,554 through partnership, 1680 01:28:33,554 --> 01:28:36,557 through shared risks. 1681 01:28:36,557 --> 01:28:38,559 That's what truly matters, 1682 01:28:38,559 --> 01:28:41,187 and we must keep reminding the world of that. 1683 01:28:41,729 --> 01:28:43,463 I think the U.S. government has, 1684 01:28:43,463 --> 01:28:45,024 in the last couple of decades, 1685 01:28:45,024 --> 01:28:46,466 not been very focused on 1686 01:28:46,466 --> 01:28:47,860 where chips are manufactured. 1687 01:28:47,860 --> 01:28:50,404 And that's really what's changed. 1688 01:28:50,404 --> 01:28:51,805 For Taiwan, Taiwan finds itself 1689 01:28:51,805 --> 01:28:55,576 impacted dramatically by that relationship. 1690 01:28:55,576 --> 01:28:57,077 Both in terms of restrictions on 1691 01:28:57,077 --> 01:28:59,664 what Taiwanese companies are able to sell, 1692 01:28:59,664 --> 01:29:02,015 but also in terms of the risks 1693 01:29:02,015 --> 01:29:04,492 that increased tensions could 1694 01:29:04,492 --> 01:29:06,954 disrupt Taiwan's ability 1695 01:29:06,954 --> 01:29:09,006 to export semiconductors. 1696 01:29:09,006 --> 01:29:12,176 Viewed through a political lens, 1697 01:29:12,176 --> 01:29:14,011 the spotlight has shifted. 1698 01:29:14,011 --> 01:29:16,889 It's no longer just Taiwan vs. China 1699 01:29:16,889 --> 01:29:19,475 but Taiwan vs. Washington. 1700 01:29:19,475 --> 01:29:22,061 America's struggle to rebuild its chip industry 1701 01:29:22,061 --> 01:29:25,147 isn't just a matter of will, 1702 01:29:25,147 --> 01:29:26,774 but of talent and cost. 1703 01:29:26,774 --> 01:29:29,360 In the U.S., fabs are expensive to build, 1704 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,195 and engineers are costly to hire. 1705 01:29:31,195 --> 01:29:33,990 In Taiwan, labor is more affordable, 1706 01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:36,784 and within 200 kilometers you can find an entire supply chain. 1707 01:29:36,784 --> 01:29:39,662 That kind of ecosystem is almost impossible to replicate in the U.S. 1708 01:29:39,662 --> 01:29:41,956 That's how the Silicon Shield was built in Taiwan. 1709 01:29:45,459 --> 01:29:50,589 To this day, TSMC never speaks of the Silicon Shield. 1710 01:29:50,589 --> 01:29:52,675 But everyone in Taiwan knows that 1711 01:29:52,675 --> 01:29:56,929 to keep the island safe, to stay seen by the world, 1712 01:29:56,929 --> 01:29:59,473 the entire nation must rally 1713 01:29:59,473 --> 01:30:02,601 to keep TSMC's cutting-edge tech 1714 01:30:02,601 --> 01:30:04,437 rooted on this island. 1715 01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:08,858 Some have expressed concerns, 1716 01:30:08,858 --> 01:30:10,884 wondering if TSMC 1717 01:30:10,884 --> 01:30:12,987 has shifted its focus abroad, 1718 01:30:12,987 --> 01:30:15,030 and if all the momentum 1719 01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:17,073 we built in Taiwan has started 1720 01:30:17,073 --> 01:30:19,243 to slow or move elsewhere. 1721 01:30:19,243 --> 01:30:24,165 We just want to say this loud and clear: 1722 01:30:24,165 --> 01:30:28,836 TSMC is here to stay. 1723 01:30:35,092 --> 01:30:38,179 This 2-nanometer TSMC site 1724 01:30:38,179 --> 01:30:40,514 sits on 120 hectares 1725 01:30:40,514 --> 01:30:44,518 acquired by Hsinchu Science Park for TSMC. 1726 01:30:45,061 --> 01:30:47,146 It once held green hills 1727 01:30:47,146 --> 01:30:50,649 and the century-old Hakka village of Daqi. 1728 01:30:52,109 --> 01:30:56,322 Daqi Village is a Hakka settlement 1729 01:30:56,322 --> 01:30:59,070 tracing back to 1730 01:30:59,070 --> 01:31:01,952 the Qing empire's Xianfeng era. 1731 01:31:01,952 --> 01:31:03,704 This temple is part of the village. 1732 01:31:03,704 --> 01:31:05,505 Hakka people have 1733 01:31:05,505 --> 01:31:07,291 lived here for generations, 1734 01:31:07,291 --> 01:31:11,962 turning barren land into fertile soil. 1735 01:31:11,962 --> 01:31:17,343 The toil spanned 100 to 200 years. 1736 01:31:20,888 --> 01:31:24,558 The plant must take local sentiments into account. 1737 01:31:24,558 --> 01:31:29,647 TSMC sent senior managers to Baosheng Temple in Daqi Village. 1738 01:31:29,647 --> 01:31:32,191 After four rounds of divination, 1739 01:31:32,191 --> 01:31:35,694 they finally got the god's permission to relocate the temple. 1740 01:31:35,694 --> 01:31:37,071 The media reported that 1741 01:31:37,071 --> 01:31:41,117 even the gods had to make way for TSMC's expansion. 1742 01:31:41,117 --> 01:31:44,620 Look, someone just left their sofa behind. 1743 01:31:44,620 --> 01:31:46,413 They tore the houses apart, 1744 01:31:46,413 --> 01:31:48,040 so they could get the money. 1745 01:31:48,833 --> 01:31:50,083 These are empty. 1746 01:31:50,083 --> 01:31:52,503 They took out the doors and windows. 1747 01:31:55,256 --> 01:31:56,757 While the country develops, 1748 01:31:56,757 --> 01:31:58,884 could there be a third option for us? 1749 01:31:58,884 --> 01:32:00,594 When designing the science park, 1750 01:32:00,594 --> 01:32:03,264 could we choose to include 1751 01:32:03,264 --> 01:32:07,309 people, land, environment, 1752 01:32:07,309 --> 01:32:10,229 culture and history at the same time? 1753 01:32:10,229 --> 01:32:15,025 Is it possible to preserve some memories? 1754 01:32:17,987 --> 01:32:20,948 Economic development and cultural values 1755 01:32:20,948 --> 01:32:23,617 have always been in a tug-of-war. 1756 01:32:24,618 --> 01:32:29,623 After ChatGPT kicked off the global AI wave in 2023, 1757 01:32:29,623 --> 01:32:34,044 the importance of TSMC became the focus of superpowers. 1758 01:32:34,461 --> 01:32:37,840 When the distribution of talent and resources clashes 1759 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,176 with national security, 1760 01:32:40,176 --> 01:32:42,178 how should we choose? 1761 01:32:43,762 --> 01:32:45,598 TSMC now ranks among the world's 1762 01:32:45,598 --> 01:32:48,475 ten most valuable companies (as of 2024). 1763 01:32:48,475 --> 01:32:51,729 Seven out of these ten are AI-driven. 1764 01:32:51,729 --> 01:32:52,879 In the age of AI, 1765 01:32:52,879 --> 01:32:56,317 a few companies shape humanity's course. 1766 01:32:56,317 --> 01:32:57,985 How fortunate is it for Taiwan. 1767 01:32:57,985 --> 01:33:00,863 But here lies a paradox. 1768 01:33:01,989 --> 01:33:04,617 TSMC's market cap 1769 01:33:04,617 --> 01:33:08,329 has surpassed Taiwan's annual GDP. 1770 01:33:08,329 --> 01:33:09,996 When a nation ties its fate 1771 01:33:09,996 --> 01:33:11,582 to one company, one industry, 1772 01:33:11,582 --> 01:33:13,834 the writing is already on the wall. 1773 01:33:19,215 --> 01:33:21,342 For the next 20 to 30 years, 1774 01:33:21,342 --> 01:33:24,678 based on industry changes in the world, 1775 01:33:24,678 --> 01:33:27,223 especially since the rise of AI, 1776 01:33:27,223 --> 01:33:30,059 developed countries, including the OECD, are all pondering over 1777 01:33:30,059 --> 01:33:33,103 the talent we'll see in the future. 1778 01:33:33,103 --> 01:33:35,856 The semiconductor bigwigs keep saying we need talent. 1779 01:33:35,856 --> 01:33:37,733 But the problem is Taiwan's development 1780 01:33:37,733 --> 01:33:39,435 needs talent across all industries. 1781 01:33:39,435 --> 01:33:41,211 Declining birth rates mean the talent 1782 01:33:41,211 --> 01:33:43,239 shortage in all walks of life is dire. 1783 01:33:43,239 --> 01:33:44,949 Taiwan needs to think more carefully about 1784 01:33:44,949 --> 01:33:46,909 what our talent policy should be like. 1785 01:33:50,913 --> 01:33:53,499 Taiwan is small and densely populated. 1786 01:33:53,499 --> 01:33:56,241 That puts huge pressure 1787 01:33:56,241 --> 01:33:59,088 on land and energy. 1788 01:33:59,088 --> 01:34:02,132 As an export-driven economy, 1789 01:34:02,132 --> 01:34:04,176 we must produce. 1790 01:34:04,176 --> 01:34:05,803 And production needs power. 1791 01:34:05,803 --> 01:34:08,589 In 2020, TSMC used 1792 01:34:08,589 --> 01:34:10,766 15.6 billion kWh of electricity. 1793 01:34:10,766 --> 01:34:13,852 That's the same as the entire Taipei City. 1794 01:34:13,852 --> 01:34:17,982 At this pace, 1795 01:34:17,982 --> 01:34:20,200 it's projected to reach 1796 01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:25,155 45 billion kWh by 2028. 1797 01:34:25,155 --> 01:34:27,274 The amount of electricity TSMC consumes 1798 01:34:27,274 --> 01:34:29,075 will be around 80% of 1799 01:34:29,075 --> 01:34:30,995 Taiwan's residential usage. 1800 01:34:32,121 --> 01:34:35,249 As Taiwan faces a mounting power crunch, 1801 01:34:35,249 --> 01:34:38,711 besides the overall electricity supply, 1802 01:34:38,711 --> 01:34:42,464 demands for a green transition are also accelerating. 1803 01:34:42,464 --> 01:34:44,466 The RE100 initiative 1804 01:34:44,466 --> 01:34:45,592 urges companies 1805 01:34:45,592 --> 01:34:50,180 to run on 100% renewable energy by 2050. 1806 01:34:50,180 --> 01:34:52,516 To stay competitive globally, 1807 01:34:52,516 --> 01:34:55,394 Taiwanese firms are signing on. 1808 01:34:55,394 --> 01:35:00,566 But green energy supply and distribution pose a new hurdle. 1809 01:35:00,566 --> 01:35:02,776 In the past, you needed land, 1810 01:35:02,776 --> 01:35:06,030 electricity, water and labor 1811 01:35:06,030 --> 01:35:07,781 to produce goods. 1812 01:35:07,781 --> 01:35:10,826 In the future, without green energy, 1813 01:35:10,826 --> 01:35:14,079 reclaimed water, or zero-carbon solutions, 1814 01:35:14,079 --> 01:35:17,207 companies may be forced to relocate. 1815 01:35:17,207 --> 01:35:18,825 When Apple commits to 1816 01:35:18,825 --> 01:35:20,377 a zero-carbon iPhone, 1817 01:35:20,377 --> 01:35:23,630 its entire supply chain must follow. 1818 01:35:23,630 --> 01:35:27,134 If not today, it'll happen soon. 1819 01:35:27,968 --> 01:35:31,513 I'm both hopeful and worried. 1820 01:35:31,513 --> 01:35:37,102 The entire island can only give so much. 1821 01:35:37,102 --> 01:35:38,845 Our water, power and talent 1822 01:35:38,845 --> 01:35:40,773 are all finite. 1823 01:35:40,773 --> 01:35:43,859 If we wish to grow beyond it, 1824 01:35:43,859 --> 01:35:47,071 we must lead our people 1825 01:35:47,071 --> 01:35:53,494 into the wider world. 1826 01:35:55,496 --> 01:35:58,540 To lead your people to explore the world, 1827 01:35:58,540 --> 01:36:01,502 you must pair ambition with resilience 1828 01:36:01,502 --> 01:36:05,130 to face the harsh realities of the global stage. 1829 01:36:05,130 --> 01:36:07,674 During the making of this documentary, 1830 01:36:07,674 --> 01:36:12,805 geopolitical shifts came so fast they nearly threw us off balance. 1831 01:36:12,805 --> 01:36:14,723 But they also forced us to face 1832 01:36:14,723 --> 01:36:17,267 the reality of living in Taiwan. 1833 01:36:17,267 --> 01:36:20,062 It's as if Taiwan's hope for safety 1834 01:36:20,062 --> 01:36:22,689 and the superpowers' idea of security 1835 01:36:22,689 --> 01:36:25,234 clash in the ruthless arena. 1836 01:36:25,234 --> 01:36:28,943 Chips and TSMC have become the quiet pieces 1837 01:36:28,943 --> 01:36:30,823 in a high-stakes game. 1838 01:36:37,079 --> 01:36:42,000 I arrived alone at TSMC's future Dresden site in Germany, 1839 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,546 surrounded by desolation and silence. 1840 01:36:45,546 --> 01:36:47,840 Walking, observing. 1841 01:36:48,424 --> 01:36:51,802 Just then, a news alert lit up my phone. 1842 01:36:51,802 --> 01:36:54,513 Global chip protectionism rising. 1843 01:36:54,513 --> 01:36:57,349 Tensions around Taiwan escalating. 1844 01:36:58,267 --> 01:37:01,395 People outside this industry don't get it. 1845 01:37:01,395 --> 01:37:04,030 We're constantly up against 1846 01:37:04,030 --> 01:37:07,860 global competition. 1847 01:37:07,860 --> 01:37:12,030 Few companies in Taiwan are like that. 1848 01:37:13,157 --> 01:37:15,509 It's hard to tell people that, 1849 01:37:15,509 --> 01:37:16,952 to love Taiwan, 1850 01:37:16,952 --> 01:37:19,830 you have to compete on a global stage. 1851 01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:23,834 That's how you truly make Taiwan stronger. 1852 01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:40,225 This is a tremendous move 1853 01:37:40,225 --> 01:37:42,895 by the most powerful company in the world. 1854 01:37:42,895 --> 01:37:45,063 It's a matter of economic security. 1855 01:37:45,063 --> 01:37:47,733 It's also a matter of national security for us. 1856 01:37:57,075 --> 01:37:58,827 Lately, 1857 01:37:58,827 --> 01:38:00,304 life has been somewhat 1858 01:38:00,304 --> 01:38:01,580 tense for certain. 1859 01:38:01,580 --> 01:38:02,989 Meeting two presidents 1860 01:38:02,989 --> 01:38:04,500 in such a short time, 1861 01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:06,877 meeting with friends in the media 1862 01:38:06,877 --> 01:38:08,629 and answering questions. 1863 01:38:10,756 --> 01:38:13,550 President Lai told me just yesterday: 1864 01:38:13,550 --> 01:38:15,670 "Be sure to speak openly 1865 01:38:15,670 --> 01:38:17,638 with our friends in the press 1866 01:38:17,638 --> 01:38:21,183 and explain why we're going to the U.S., 1867 01:38:21,183 --> 01:38:22,642 and why we've committed 1868 01:38:22,642 --> 01:38:24,770 to this US$100 billion investment." 1869 01:38:41,036 --> 01:38:45,415 Over the past five years, 1870 01:38:45,415 --> 01:38:48,293 we were once seen as 1871 01:38:49,294 --> 01:38:53,757 a key battleground. 1872 01:38:53,757 --> 01:38:56,301 But now, we have truly become 1873 01:38:56,301 --> 01:38:58,845 the bona fide battleground. 1874 01:39:00,556 --> 01:39:02,615 Especially when it comes to 1875 01:39:02,615 --> 01:39:05,686 the most advanced semiconductors. 1876 01:39:06,895 --> 01:39:14,611 Globalization is dead. 1877 01:39:14,611 --> 01:39:19,700 Free trade is also dead. 1878 01:39:21,743 --> 01:39:24,580 In this new world, 1879 01:39:27,207 --> 01:39:29,835 our challenge is clear 1880 01:39:29,835 --> 01:39:35,090 we must keep growing. 1881 01:39:39,136 --> 01:39:47,019 I believe we will rise to this challenge. 1882 01:39:49,021 --> 01:39:51,356 We will succeed. 1883 01:40:06,830 --> 01:40:11,251 Accept the challenge. Keep pushing forward. 1884 01:40:11,251 --> 01:40:14,630 Perhaps it's not just TSMC being tested. 1885 01:40:14,630 --> 01:40:17,633 It's another gamble on Taiwan's survival. 1886 01:40:18,342 --> 01:40:22,971 We must succeed. Failure is not an option. 1887 01:40:49,331 --> 01:40:53,835 Half a century ago, in those stormy days of uncertainty 1888 01:40:53,835 --> 01:40:58,090 a group of young engineers planted the seeds of Taiwan's tech. 1889 01:40:58,090 --> 01:41:00,759 What sprouted wasn't just chips, 1890 01:41:00,759 --> 01:41:02,969 but also a quiet resolve, 1891 01:41:02,969 --> 01:41:06,556 a promise to protect the place they called home. 1892 01:41:06,556 --> 01:41:08,558 Once passionate youths, 1893 01:41:08,558 --> 01:41:11,937 they've grown into wise elders with silver hair. 1894 01:41:11,937 --> 01:41:14,147 Yet the wine circle that Hu started 1895 01:41:14,147 --> 01:41:16,066 still lives on.130363

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