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— While I'm working on you,
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if there are some places
where I'm going too deeply,
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you just let me know.
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If it's bringing things up
for you, you let me know.
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— Yeah.
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You're actually in control,
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although I'd like to think I am.
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I believe healing was always around us,
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no matter what age we were.
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I don't know how we understand it,
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but we lived it.
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Feel that one?
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— That one's okay.
— Yeah?
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Even though it's holding?
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— That's fine.
— Yeah. Cool.
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I don't know how we knew,
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but we just followed the examples.
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Breathe.
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As a young child,
I can remember being told
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to put my hand on certain people
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and leave it in a certain space,
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and then they would say, "Oh,
I can feel it coming through."
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Whatever guidance that was,
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it was just knowing.
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You alright?
— Mhm.
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Au I tunei.
My name is Atarangi.
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My first trauma, if you like,
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was in the womb.
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When my mother was trying to birth me,
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it was a very difficult birth for her.
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And it was my grandmother,
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who helped me
come through into this world.
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Through her,
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that is the reason why I do what I do.
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No, no. Come, come, come.
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You are so beautiful pregnant.
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— Hi! Yes, I'm still pregnant.
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— So beautifully!
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— Kia ora.
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— Kia ora.
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Oh!
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— I don't know, everything just-
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I'm just like something happened.
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— Um, I need, Manuka,
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can I have a roll up, please?
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I already know, prior to
who's coming to the house,
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why they're coming.
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If they're coming with their ancestors,
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whether they have trauma in the womb,
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that all comes to me prior
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to people arriving.
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Just gonna give a bit of a nudge.
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Right there! That's...shoulder.
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— Yeah, I can feel the head
moving when you do that.
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— Yeah.
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I knew at 3 o'clock this morning,
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this baby was out of alignment,
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and my tummy was very painful on the left.
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That's how it comes to me.
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They come in my body.
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I get body-pain, severely.
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It's this side, eh?
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Patient: Yeah, it's,
that's the sore side.
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Awhitia: Okay.
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Breathe.
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Kia ora.
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Ko Awhitia Mihaere toku ingoa,
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he uri ahau no Ngati Porou,
Ngati Kahungunu,
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Rongowhakaata,
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Ngai Taamanuhiriite
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taha toku mama.
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I te taha toku papa no
Maniapoto, Rangitaane ahau.
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No reiratena koutou katoa.
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Our ancestral, traditional way
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is that we are not separate
from the environment.
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Because of colonization,
we have separated ourselves
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from that ideology,
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from that way of being.
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It's shown itself to have
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huge impact on Mother Earth,
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and Father Sky,
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and all the environmental
children in between.
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Nature is suffering
because of the behaviors of
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the youngest born in that line.
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When we disengage from the environment,
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people get lost in their own darkness.
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Take your Christian
or religion glasses off,
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because I'm not talking about
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a religious thing.
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My God is that cloud drifting past,
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the grass is my God, the sea is my God.
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Feel more connected,
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not just to your human genealogy,
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but to your environmental genealogy.
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I grew up in this place,
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raised by my ancestors,
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by my grandparents,
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speaking my native tongue.
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Learning about all the genealogies
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and the histories of the Tairawhiti,
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which equipped me in my
life-journey as an artist
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and historian of matauranga
Māori, Māori knowledge.
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Tena Koutou, tokuingoa ko
Mark Kopua. Kia ora.
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When we talk about healing, it is Rongoā.
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Rongoā is about listening.
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Te reo has its own
vibration and frequency.
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The island was a place where
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those healers that we hear, those tohunga,
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that's where they were taught.
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That was where my grandmother
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was taught the art of Rongoā.
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You can hear the cicadas...
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But before we go in,
I'm just going to do a karakia for us,
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to give us permission to go in.
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That's who we are.
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Our job is to protect the nature.
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If we don't protect Te Taiao,
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Te Taiao won't protect us.
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It's in our genes because
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our great grandmother Te Horo,
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she was the healer of this whole area,
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and she was a blind queen.
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And she had a parrot that talked to her.
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And she was very powerful.
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During the epidemic flu that we had here
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that killed thousands of our people,
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most of them went to her
and she healed them.
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And then she taught my other
great grandmother then,
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so they started up teaching,
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those who wanted to learn.
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My grandmother inherited
that work of healing,
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and I was what they call,
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"the person that had to
go out and get the plants."
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So she taught me as I was growing up
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Ko taku ingoa ko Tohe Ahipi.
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— Growing up here, I realized,
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that I wanted to be involved in
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healing from our Indigenous perspective.
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And when I went home and spoke
to my elders about that,
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one of the aunties turned
around to me and said,
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"What do you want to do that for?
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Don't do that.
Go be a real doctor.
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That's where your future is."
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Ko Dona Kerridge ahau.
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I am of Māori and English descent,
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and I hail from a small community
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on the west coast of the North Island,
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Te Puaha o Waikato. Kia ora.
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All my aunts and uncles
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grew up in a time when it really wasn't
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the thing to be Māori.
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You know, they weren't
allowed to speak it at school.
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And worse than that,
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they were actually
chastised for speaking it.
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They suffered indignities that
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I don't really feel
comfortable talking about,
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because I don't think I can do justice.
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I can, I can feel
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the pain.
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And they didn't talk about it much.
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They didn't talk about it to us,
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but somehow we knew.
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— Notice how the Māori
people greet each other
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when they meet by pressing noses.
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This greeting is called the Hongi.
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Of course, they don't live
in this fashion nowadays.
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— For centuries, the Māori of New Zealand,
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developed a distinctive culture.
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— When the British came,
everything changed.
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— This Māori boy is eating sunshine.
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He belongs to one of
the proudest races on Earth.
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— For the first time in history,
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a reigning British monarch
visits her Māori subjects.
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— There's a lot of trauma
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that has happened to our people.
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The timeline is always here
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of the promises that they gave,
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and they switched it against us.
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— In 1840, the British made a deal
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with over 500 Māori chiefs,
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The Treaty of Waitangi.
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— My ancestor, Te Ruki Kawiti,
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said No, he would not sign the treaty.
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He said, "We can look after ourselves.
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Go away! Go back to
wherever you come from."
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He did, however, sign it in the end
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to save his people, his tribe.
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Or else they'd be wiped out.
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— Two versions of the treaty,
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were written, one in Māori,
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and one in English.
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The Māori copy promised our chiefs
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absolute authority
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over our own land and resources,
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while the English copy,
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gave all the rights and power
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of sovereignty to the Crown.
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And we're still seeing
those effects to date.
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And the main pillars of those effects,
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are the loss of language,
the loss of culture,
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and the loss of identity.
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— What I think
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colonialism and the
intergenerational trauma
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that has come as a result
of radical change
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imposed upon different populations,
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is a symptom of disconnection.
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Disconnecting from your own ways of
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knowing, doing, and being.
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That was the point,
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was to disconnect people
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from their power,
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so that they are more amenable
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to another way of knowing.
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— The children are growing up to be
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good citizens, managers
of their own homes.
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Theirs is not a specialist training,
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but training for living.
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The Māori school children
will be the educators
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of the new generations,
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in hygiene and home crafts.
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— The first schools that started here
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were called the Native Schools.
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We were the natives.
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Our grandparents were the natives.
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And you were not to speak Māori
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at the Native School.
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They brought religion in.
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And they were the worst land confiscators,
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the missionaries.
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So what they did was they said,
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"Come over, we'll teach you how to pray,
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close your eyes
and bow your head."
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So we closed our eyes and bowed our head.
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By the time we opened
our eyes, our land was gone.
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— Through schools, they were able to
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wipe out
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the language, the culture,
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within one generation.
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— And then we are the
next generation after,
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from natives they turned into Māori.
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So we became the Māori.
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— I don't know whether
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so much that I thought that I was Māori,
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but I knew that I was from these tribes.
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Māori, the word Māori,
in its understanding,
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didn't come out as what I was.
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In my youth, the word Māori
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was used to mean "natural."
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Later on I learned
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that it was a colonized tool,
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to put us into a little
category and collective.
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— Māori people, and
I think, Indigenous people
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all over the world were assimilated,
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because what we call "the white man"
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wanted to phase out the
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tangata o te whenua,
or "the people of the land".
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— You weren't allowed to pick herbs.
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You weren't allowed
to pick any of our Rongoā.
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— They banned
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what they called the
Tohunga Suppression Act.
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1907.
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So if you were caught,
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practicing Rongoā,
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you would go to jail, you would be fined.
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Awhitia: So all of that
got lost.
268
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Our knowledge was lost over centuries.
269
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— A lot of our healers decided
270
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to close off all the portals.
271
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And a lot of them went underground,
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and took their knowledge with them.
273
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Some died with their knowledge,
274
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some continued to practice underground.
275
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— The government of the day,
were chopping our trees
276
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to help overseas to build houses.
277
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And so we ended up suffering.
278
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Māori have got the highest
rate of health problems,
279
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but that's because they took
all our Rongoā trees away.
280
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Like literal medicine, herbal trees.
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We weren't born with asthma.
282
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It had to come from the environment,
283
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from Te Taiao.
284
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And so to have all your trees
and your Rongoā gone,
285
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was traumatic, especially for our people.
286
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— I don't feel it like an expert
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in the space of trauma,
288
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other than my own trauma.
289
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What happened?
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What worries me,
291
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it's as a Māori people,
292
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We're so disconnected,
293
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and we're trying really hard to reconnect,
294
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that sometimes we're doing more damage.
295
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When we're trying
to understand the trauma,
296
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that our people have been through,
297
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the very word 'trauma'
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is building empires
299
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that I don't think we want.
300
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When we find...
301
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terms, concepts,
302
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in the language that
303
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was the very reason for disconnecting
304
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my philosophical
understanding of who I am,
305
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and the very impact of
306
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our people being raped,
307
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our land being taken...
308
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Because I can't narrate that
309
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in my Indigenous language,
310
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I feel like what trauma does,
311
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is builds an empire,
312
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that promotes yet again,
313
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a neo-liberalistic way
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of commodifying
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our hurts,
316
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and using Western knowledge,
317
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to offer
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a therapeutic way to engage you,
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in overcoming your trauma.
320
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— A big part of it
321
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again comes back to disconnection.
322
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It feels like...
323
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somebody's...
324
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severing the umbilical cords of us all
325
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and we're starting to float...
326
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all over the place.
327
00:18:02,648 --> 00:18:04,900
— The historical injustices,
328
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the process of colonization,
329
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has favored a Western knowledge system,
330
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so that we can help you
331
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almost with a sense of amnesia
332
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about what caused the pain
333
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in the first place.
334
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When you take a land away
from my ancestors,
335
00:18:23,877 --> 00:18:27,673
and then you would heal us
with your ways of knowing,
336
00:18:27,673 --> 00:18:31,010
not realizing that you took from us
337
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our ability
338
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to be able to thrive off our land,
339
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whom is our mother.
340
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,644
You took us from our mother,
341
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you took our mother from us,
342
00:18:43,105 --> 00:18:45,858
and we struggled to survive.
343
00:18:45,858 --> 00:18:48,235
Money was not our
344
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economic source
345
00:18:50,112 --> 00:18:52,072
of wealth and growth.
346
00:18:52,072 --> 00:18:55,409
It was the ability to have a relationship,
347
00:18:55,409 --> 00:18:58,954
with our land and our sky and our sea,
348
00:18:58,954 --> 00:19:00,539
and we lost that.
349
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,878
— You then saw children
350
00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:08,005
in the early 1900's,
351
00:19:08,005 --> 00:19:09,757
you know, turning to drugs,
352
00:19:09,757 --> 00:19:11,133
becoming homeless,
353
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because they weren't nurtured
354
00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:15,179
the way they were meant to.
355
00:19:27,858 --> 00:19:30,235
— I've been a drug
and alcohol counselor for,
356
00:19:30,235 --> 00:19:31,779
for many years.
357
00:19:32,488 --> 00:19:34,948
I started up two rehab centers,
358
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,075
one for women and one for men.
359
00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:40,537
But I said, before you even go into rehab,
360
00:19:40,537 --> 00:19:42,790
you've got to come and
spend two weeks with me,
361
00:19:42,790 --> 00:19:44,041
in the bush.
362
00:19:52,466 --> 00:19:55,177
I'm sweating and detoxing your body,
363
00:19:55,177 --> 00:19:58,347
using all different types of medicine.
364
00:19:59,771 --> 00:20:01,614
And by the time the two weeks are up,
365
00:20:01,642 --> 00:20:03,143
they don't want to leave.
366
00:20:03,143 --> 00:20:05,020
But the reason I told them that
367
00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:06,855
they needed to go to rehab
368
00:20:06,855 --> 00:20:09,149
was now that their mind is clear,
369
00:20:09,149 --> 00:20:12,736
to actually start the work to repair,
370
00:20:13,529 --> 00:20:14,863
what they have lost.
371
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:26,834
Goes back to the way they were brought up.
372
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They will use alcohol,
373
00:20:28,919 --> 00:20:30,629
to get rid of the pain.
374
00:20:30,629 --> 00:20:32,339
But I said, you'll never
get rid of the pain,
375
00:20:32,339 --> 00:20:34,800
it will come back a hundred times worse!
376
00:20:36,343 --> 00:20:37,886
This is the way you have to do it.
377
00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:08,750
I had a young gentleman,
378
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:11,169
who just got his custody of his boy,
379
00:21:11,169 --> 00:21:13,130
so he went to Auckland,
380
00:21:13,130 --> 00:21:14,923
he saw one of his friends
across the street,
381
00:21:14,923 --> 00:21:16,466
he stopped his car and said to his boy,
382
00:21:16,466 --> 00:21:18,260
"Wait here for a minute.
I won't be a minute.
383
00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:20,012
Just going to talk to this friend."
384
00:21:20,012 --> 00:21:22,014
So he went across and
he talked to his friend.
385
00:21:23,181 --> 00:21:25,392
And then
all he heard was, "Dad!"
386
00:21:25,392 --> 00:21:27,436
He turned around to see a truck go...
387
00:21:29,688 --> 00:21:32,858
He ran to his child,
his child was in... had passed.
388
00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:42,701
So that guy
389
00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:46,163
spent close on seven years
390
00:21:46,163 --> 00:21:47,664
of that same memory,
391
00:21:50,083 --> 00:21:52,294
seeing that accident,
392
00:21:52,294 --> 00:21:53,837
seeing his boy.
393
00:21:53,837 --> 00:21:56,757
He'd go to the cemetery and
he'd sleep in the cemetery,
394
00:21:56,757 --> 00:21:58,050
with this boy.
395
00:21:59,259 --> 00:22:00,427
And so...
396
00:22:02,304 --> 00:22:03,639
The rehab rang me and said to me
397
00:22:03,639 --> 00:22:05,223
he had run away, he had taken off.
398
00:22:06,224 --> 00:22:08,143
I said, "Wait there,
I'll find him."
399
00:22:08,143 --> 00:22:10,020
I caught him walking the road.
400
00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:12,564
So I took him to another healer.
401
00:22:12,564 --> 00:22:14,149
Me and the healer to work on him.
402
00:22:15,609 --> 00:22:17,736
And so we worked on him.
403
00:22:17,736 --> 00:22:20,030
And I said to him,
"You need to let him go.
404
00:22:20,030 --> 00:22:22,324
You've held on to him
405
00:22:22,324 --> 00:22:23,700
for over seven years.
406
00:22:24,534 --> 00:22:26,954
And you've been having the same dreams.
407
00:22:26,954 --> 00:22:28,455
No matter what medicine
408
00:22:28,455 --> 00:22:30,874
the doctors have given you
to try and knock you out,
409
00:22:32,542 --> 00:22:34,586
you can't, because that
dream keeps coming back,
410
00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:36,630
coming back and seeing that accident.
411
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:39,925
I said,
"You need to let the boy go."
412
00:22:40,842 --> 00:22:44,638
So working with him all day
and finally, he let it go.
413
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:47,891
Hopped in my car and he said
to me, "Can I sleep?"
414
00:22:47,891 --> 00:22:50,352
He slept for three days, in my car.
415
00:22:50,352 --> 00:22:51,853
I just let him sleep.
416
00:22:51,853 --> 00:22:53,605
He got up and he said to me,
417
00:22:54,439 --> 00:22:55,857
"I had this dream.
418
00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:59,069
My boy was
playing in the park."
419
00:22:59,069 --> 00:23:00,362
Big smile!
420
00:23:02,406 --> 00:23:04,324
And I said to him, "You're healed.
421
00:23:04,324 --> 00:23:06,159
You don't need to be here."
422
00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:08,870
And he said, "No, I want to be here.
423
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:10,372
I want to help others."
424
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:12,499
So he stayed in rehab.
425
00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:29,057
— The goal for me in Rongoā Māori,
426
00:23:29,057 --> 00:23:33,937
is to lift the mana, the esteem, the power
427
00:23:33,937 --> 00:23:36,356
and the Mauri, the lifeforce
428
00:23:36,356 --> 00:23:38,608
of people in place.
429
00:23:38,608 --> 00:23:40,318
So not one in isolation,
430
00:23:40,318 --> 00:23:42,237
not people separate from the world,
431
00:23:42,237 --> 00:23:44,906
but the world, including people.
432
00:23:49,286 --> 00:23:50,954
— Take a deep breath.
433
00:23:53,206 --> 00:23:54,416
And let it go.
434
00:23:57,210 --> 00:23:59,087
— When we look at
435
00:23:59,087 --> 00:24:02,632
the way that animals use their senses,
436
00:24:02,632 --> 00:24:04,885
this way that our healers use their senses
437
00:24:04,885 --> 00:24:06,845
is actually no different to our siblings
438
00:24:06,845 --> 00:24:08,305
in the animal world.
439
00:24:10,057 --> 00:24:12,225
— You write everything.
440
00:24:12,225 --> 00:24:14,394
— Dominant?
— Yeah.
441
00:24:15,645 --> 00:24:17,731
— We just lost them,
442
00:24:17,731 --> 00:24:20,192
and so they seem weird now,
443
00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:22,319
in a modern world, but they're not weird.
444
00:24:26,323 --> 00:24:28,784
— That's where you're sticking.
445
00:24:28,784 --> 00:24:29,785
— Mhm.
446
00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:35,540
— That just some of us have grown up
with those around us,
447
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:37,209
those senses highly attuned.
448
00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:38,710
Not all of them at once,
449
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:41,004
but maybe one more than the other.
450
00:24:41,004 --> 00:24:43,006
And we use that as a gift.
451
00:24:43,006 --> 00:24:45,509
We use that as a gift
to help us in our work.
452
00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:50,847
— I hear the word "trauma,"
453
00:24:50,847 --> 00:24:53,100
I don't understand it.
454
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:54,893
I don't see it in the body
455
00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:57,395
in the way that it's described.
456
00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:04,069
There's a smell that comes off a body.
457
00:25:09,658 --> 00:25:11,993
If we know how to smell the body,
458
00:25:11,993 --> 00:25:13,787
—and when I talk about smelling,
459
00:25:13,787 --> 00:25:17,332
I'm not talking about the
physical odor of the body,
460
00:25:17,332 --> 00:25:20,752
I'm talking about the
spiritual odor of the body—
461
00:25:21,795 --> 00:25:23,505
when we can smell that,
462
00:25:23,505 --> 00:25:25,549
you can...
463
00:25:25,549 --> 00:25:28,969
almost smell which organ it's coming from.
464
00:25:30,387 --> 00:25:31,847
If I know it's the liver,
465
00:25:31,847 --> 00:25:34,891
then there's work to be
done behind the knees
466
00:25:34,891 --> 00:25:37,602
and at the back for the liver
467
00:25:37,602 --> 00:25:40,522
to... placate it,
468
00:25:40,522 --> 00:25:42,732
to make it peaceful.
469
00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,696
The liver is connected to
the anger we hold in the body.
470
00:25:48,613 --> 00:25:52,492
So if that's a smell I get,
then I know what to do.
471
00:25:53,577 --> 00:25:55,495
If it's the kidneys,
472
00:25:55,495 --> 00:25:58,206
then I'm looking at a
different part of the body.
473
00:25:58,206 --> 00:26:01,168
We aren’t taught as children how to smell.
474
00:26:01,168 --> 00:26:03,670
We know it instinctively.
475
00:26:09,551 --> 00:26:11,261
I know no other way.
476
00:26:12,888 --> 00:26:14,472
It's not even a picture,
477
00:26:14,472 --> 00:26:17,184
it's not a judgment or a sense,
478
00:26:17,184 --> 00:26:18,643
I just know,
479
00:26:18,643 --> 00:26:21,104
and actually, we all do.
480
00:26:22,272 --> 00:26:25,192
You know how to smell someone who is ill.
481
00:26:25,192 --> 00:26:28,403
Someone who has cancer
in the chest or the breast,
482
00:26:28,403 --> 00:26:30,405
their body exudes a smell.
483
00:26:30,405 --> 00:26:33,492
Everything has to do
with the physicalness of here.
484
00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:36,828
Emotion never plays a part
for me in the work,
485
00:26:36,828 --> 00:26:38,747
but it gets in the way.
486
00:26:41,541 --> 00:26:43,501
— I'm gonna hold this,
487
00:26:43,501 --> 00:26:46,004
until the lung lets go.
488
00:26:46,004 --> 00:26:48,131
— I don't see emotion.
489
00:26:48,131 --> 00:26:49,466
I know where it is
490
00:26:49,466 --> 00:26:51,343
and I know what they're doing.
491
00:26:51,343 --> 00:26:55,263
But my job is to align this, this and this
492
00:26:55,263 --> 00:26:57,974
and keep it strong
493
00:26:57,974 --> 00:26:59,351
and intact for them.
494
00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:00,560
When those are aligned,
495
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,063
the emotion won't have any way
496
00:27:03,063 --> 00:27:04,898
to interrupt them.
497
00:27:10,487 --> 00:27:12,614
— You're good? You can get up
498
00:27:12,614 --> 00:27:14,741
when you're ready, take your time.
499
00:27:14,741 --> 00:27:17,786
As soon as the egg, egg and the seed,
500
00:27:17,786 --> 00:27:20,080
as soon as they come together,
501
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,871
that's when we, as the
human being we're going to be,
502
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:25,829
start to feel everything.
503
00:27:25,857 --> 00:27:26,920
We have a memory,
504
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,880
—and everybody thinks that's up here,
505
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,173
the memory's here—
506
00:27:30,173 --> 00:27:32,968
of everything we've experienced in life.
507
00:27:32,968 --> 00:27:37,472
And for those who are
lucky enough or unlucky enough
508
00:27:37,472 --> 00:27:40,684
to remember past lives and future lives,
509
00:27:40,684 --> 00:27:43,853
that in itself can also be
510
00:27:43,853 --> 00:27:46,022
either a bonus,
511
00:27:46,022 --> 00:27:47,649
or a drain on them.
512
00:27:47,649 --> 00:27:48,817
— As soon as you started
513
00:27:48,817 --> 00:27:50,068
my jaw started quivering.
514
00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:53,405
— I saw that, yeah.
— And it still kind of is.
515
00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:55,365
— But that's your emotional release.
516
00:27:55,365 --> 00:27:58,785
Not everybody does it
through the eyes and crying.
517
00:27:58,785 --> 00:28:01,162
We all have our own way.
518
00:28:01,162 --> 00:28:03,123
You're a stalwart,
519
00:28:03,148 --> 00:28:06,351
you have... truth, you know.
520
00:28:06,376 --> 00:28:08,003
Because you're a power
521
00:28:08,003 --> 00:28:10,422
and that's why you have to
pass your knowledge on,
522
00:28:10,422 --> 00:28:12,132
and you have to do it fast.
523
00:28:18,555 --> 00:28:21,599
— There's so much in one human being,
524
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,395
to stop trauma from
continuing in us and continuing,
525
00:28:25,395 --> 00:28:27,188
because it goes down lineal,
526
00:28:27,188 --> 00:28:29,899
back and ancestral and forward.
527
00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:34,237
We believe that's why
we do a lot of our practices,
528
00:28:34,237 --> 00:28:35,989
that are always done on the womb,
529
00:28:35,989 --> 00:28:38,241
because it's where the source is.
530
00:28:38,241 --> 00:28:40,660
— I'm just gonna go down.
I'm just gonna go down.
531
00:28:41,828 --> 00:28:43,705
Yeah.
532
00:28:43,705 --> 00:28:45,415
— Deep breath.
533
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:57,218
— Keep going.
534
00:29:06,102 --> 00:29:08,063
— Good!
— Ah!
535
00:29:15,528 --> 00:29:18,740
— How many pregnancies did you have?
536
00:29:22,744 --> 00:29:24,454
Atarangi: So you had—yeah,
537
00:29:24,454 --> 00:29:26,956
that's what I was asking.
Okay. Cool.
538
00:29:27,999 --> 00:29:29,667
Before or after her?
539
00:29:31,628 --> 00:29:35,090
— Before. Was she directly after that?
540
00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:46,935
— So you're the daughter that
541
00:29:46,935 --> 00:29:49,437
was conceived after the,
542
00:29:49,437 --> 00:29:52,023
the one you lost, is she here?
— Yeah.
543
00:29:52,023 --> 00:29:53,817
— I need to do her.
— Yeah?
544
00:29:53,817 --> 00:29:55,693
— Because she's always thinking
545
00:29:55,693 --> 00:29:57,821
she's missing something.
546
00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:06,579
— What is in the organ
is a cellular memory.
547
00:30:06,579 --> 00:30:08,456
That's the memory of the cells
548
00:30:08,456 --> 00:30:10,291
that have been connected to trauma,
549
00:30:10,291 --> 00:30:11,960
any kind of trauma.
550
00:30:17,841 --> 00:30:19,384
— Breathe it in with me.
551
00:30:20,427 --> 00:30:21,719
And breathe it up.
552
00:30:21,719 --> 00:30:23,513
Breathe it up.
553
00:30:23,513 --> 00:30:27,392
— And so my practice for looking after
and healing the womb,
554
00:30:27,392 --> 00:30:31,062
is for those women who have
lost their babies in the womb,
555
00:30:31,062 --> 00:30:33,000
who passed away in the womb.
556
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:34,586
We realigned the kopu,
557
00:30:34,614 --> 00:30:36,818
take all of the cellular
memory out of their trauma,
558
00:30:36,818 --> 00:30:39,446
that they've have just had,
559
00:30:39,446 --> 00:30:41,156
by losing baby in the womb.
560
00:30:41,156 --> 00:30:43,491
So, that the new baby can come in
561
00:30:43,491 --> 00:30:48,079
and not feel the trauma of
the baby that was just passed.
562
00:31:00,258 --> 00:31:02,635
— The child doesn't understand,
563
00:31:02,635 --> 00:31:06,055
there's been something else
in there before them,
564
00:31:06,055 --> 00:31:08,725
and they're always seeking
565
00:31:08,725 --> 00:31:11,811
that other energy, because
it was there with them.
566
00:31:11,811 --> 00:31:14,439
All right.
You feel that beat? Yeah.
567
00:31:15,982 --> 00:31:17,025
Okay.
568
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:21,696
So, that's all right, just breathe.
569
00:31:22,071 --> 00:31:23,823
I'm going to just check.
570
00:31:29,412 --> 00:31:31,539
Don't try and control it.
571
00:31:34,459 --> 00:31:37,128
So the heartbeat that I'm picking up here,
572
00:31:37,128 --> 00:31:39,964
is different to the beat I'm picking here,
573
00:31:39,964 --> 00:31:41,508
I'm picking up here.
574
00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:44,135
This one does not belong here.
575
00:31:44,135 --> 00:31:45,762
You know that don't you?
576
00:31:45,762 --> 00:31:46,888
You know why?
577
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:50,391
All right. Your mom
will tell you later.
578
00:32:16,376 --> 00:32:19,837
— As children, we were
told by our teachers
579
00:32:19,837 --> 00:32:23,049
to lie on our backs with our eyes closed
580
00:32:23,049 --> 00:32:25,176
and to concentrate on our breathing.
581
00:32:25,969 --> 00:32:28,054
And for 20 minutes, every day,
582
00:32:28,054 --> 00:32:31,599
we would recite lines from Mōteatea .
583
00:32:45,446 --> 00:32:47,490
In its most basic form,
584
00:32:47,490 --> 00:32:49,701
a Mōteatea is a chant,
585
00:32:49,701 --> 00:32:51,869
and probably the most
586
00:32:51,869 --> 00:32:55,248
archaic form of music to Māori culture,
587
00:32:55,248 --> 00:32:58,001
and was commonly used by our ancestors
588
00:32:58,001 --> 00:33:01,963
as a way of expressing
their emotions and feelings,
589
00:33:01,963 --> 00:33:04,340
to events that may have just taken place.
590
00:33:10,597 --> 00:33:12,890
— A Mōteatea is a form of therapy,
591
00:33:12,890 --> 00:33:15,393
and was a form of therapy
for our ancestors,
592
00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:17,770
where they were able to
593
00:33:17,770 --> 00:33:21,566
spell out those emotions,
rather than harbor them.
594
00:33:21,566 --> 00:33:23,443
Now, when we think of colonization,
595
00:33:23,443 --> 00:33:25,903
a lot of our Mōteatea weren't
596
00:33:25,903 --> 00:33:27,947
passed down to the next generation,
597
00:33:27,947 --> 00:33:30,366
because the language was beaten,
598
00:33:30,366 --> 00:33:33,161
literally beaten out of our ancestors.
599
00:33:43,171 --> 00:33:44,922
— We were beaten at school for
600
00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:48,676
speaking my language in the '70s,
601
00:33:48,676 --> 00:33:50,553
literally beaten.
602
00:33:51,721 --> 00:33:53,473
And...um...
603
00:33:54,974 --> 00:33:58,353
and then I was determined
to make sure that
604
00:33:58,353 --> 00:33:59,979
my children would have
605
00:33:59,979 --> 00:34:01,856
the language given back to them.
606
00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:04,609
And so, we fought.
607
00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:08,279
— And it was our parents generation that
608
00:34:08,279 --> 00:34:12,283
finally discovered that that way of
609
00:34:12,283 --> 00:34:15,578
educating Māori children was not working.
610
00:34:15,578 --> 00:34:17,914
— My children were one of the first
611
00:34:18,748 --> 00:34:21,834
pioneers to be able to speak our language,
612
00:34:21,859 --> 00:34:25,443
to return our language back to our land.
613
00:34:45,483 --> 00:34:47,735
— A young person who is lost
614
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,406
because of colonization,
because of urbanization,
615
00:34:51,406 --> 00:34:52,771
I think it's a great way
616
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,159
to introduce them to their ancestry.
617
00:34:56,035 --> 00:34:59,455
And to know that that ancestry
right down to the Creation,
618
00:34:59,455 --> 00:35:01,999
right back to the Creation of the world,
619
00:35:01,999 --> 00:35:03,584
is as it is,
620
00:35:03,584 --> 00:35:05,670
is fabulous!
621
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,519
— My mother, who was,
who is Doctor Cathy Dewes,
622
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,313
one of the handful of
leaders from the '80s,
623
00:35:24,313 --> 00:35:28,276
opened a school here
on the shores of Rotorua,
624
00:35:28,276 --> 00:35:29,402
and she named the school
625
00:35:29,402 --> 00:35:31,446
Te Kura Kaupapa Māori o Ruamata,
626
00:35:31,446 --> 00:35:33,906
which is where I spent the first
627
00:35:33,906 --> 00:35:35,491
18 years of my life.
628
00:35:35,491 --> 00:35:38,494
And it was only the second
school of its type
629
00:35:38,494 --> 00:35:39,746
at the time.
630
00:36:02,796 --> 00:36:03,657
— Te Kura Kaupapa Māori,
631
00:36:03,686 --> 00:36:05,646
or total immersion Māori schooling,
632
00:36:05,646 --> 00:36:07,940
has to be done totally in Māori.
633
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:09,609
The school encourages
634
00:36:09,609 --> 00:36:11,986
parents to speak Māori at home,
635
00:36:11,986 --> 00:36:13,613
as well as school.
636
00:36:13,613 --> 00:36:15,364
We have a saying here,
637
00:36:17,617 --> 00:36:19,786
"Where a school should be as a home,
638
00:36:19,786 --> 00:36:21,412
and a home should be
as a school."
639
00:36:33,674 --> 00:36:36,969
We combine the two worlds of our students,
640
00:36:36,969 --> 00:36:38,471
the home and the school,
641
00:36:38,471 --> 00:36:40,890
and basically, the whole environment
642
00:36:40,890 --> 00:36:42,475
growing up becomes one.
643
00:36:48,523 --> 00:36:51,567
— Everything that that
young person is experiencing,
644
00:36:51,567 --> 00:36:53,694
our ancestors have experienced.
645
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,157
In the stories is a blueprint
646
00:36:58,157 --> 00:37:00,743
about how to deal
647
00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,330
with just certain types of distress,
648
00:37:04,357 --> 00:37:06,900
that they are also experiencing.
649
00:37:09,335 --> 00:37:12,004
And so, you expose these young people,
650
00:37:12,004 --> 00:37:14,590
who are lost, in a sense,
651
00:37:14,590 --> 00:37:18,344
to that, and that allows them to find
652
00:37:18,344 --> 00:37:20,429
the path that suits them.
653
00:37:21,472 --> 00:37:23,015
— You know what, we're gonna
start from the start!
654
00:37:24,058 --> 00:37:25,685
— It's all about Mauri too.
655
00:37:25,685 --> 00:37:27,186
You can't just go "phsshh" harmony.
656
00:37:41,576 --> 00:37:43,786
— I didn't do well in school.
657
00:37:44,662 --> 00:37:46,247
I was a teenage mum,
658
00:37:46,247 --> 00:37:48,207
and it was at a time
659
00:37:48,207 --> 00:37:51,335
where to be Māori, and to be a young mum
660
00:37:51,335 --> 00:37:53,671
had purpose, had meaning.
661
00:37:53,671 --> 00:37:55,423
I could offer them something.
662
00:37:55,423 --> 00:37:56,757
Yeah, it's, yes.
663
00:37:56,757 --> 00:37:57,758
Beautiful phrasing!
664
00:38:06,726 --> 00:38:10,146
— See, Māori clinical psychologists can't sing.
665
00:38:11,188 --> 00:38:14,775
I don't think I wanted to go down
a pathway of psychiatry.
666
00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:17,278
I wanted to protest
667
00:38:17,278 --> 00:38:18,946
against racism.
668
00:38:18,946 --> 00:38:21,240
I wanted to fight for my right
669
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,826
to exist as a Māori.
670
00:38:24,118 --> 00:38:27,747
I wanted distress to be seen,
671
00:38:27,747 --> 00:38:29,874
without being diagnosed.
672
00:38:29,874 --> 00:38:32,752
I wanted to do away with criteria
673
00:38:32,752 --> 00:38:34,462
for people to access
674
00:38:34,462 --> 00:38:37,089
authentic, meaningful help.
675
00:38:37,381 --> 00:38:39,467
And I wanted to be proud
676
00:38:39,467 --> 00:38:42,303
of our culture as Māori.
677
00:38:50,186 --> 00:38:52,104
And I did a Māori course
678
00:38:52,104 --> 00:38:54,106
and learned my language,
679
00:38:54,106 --> 00:38:56,525
and it was the year that I learned about
680
00:38:56,525 --> 00:38:59,487
our Creation stories,
and I was a baby in them,
681
00:38:59,487 --> 00:39:02,365
like I knew about five or seven of them,
682
00:39:02,365 --> 00:39:04,242
but I was gonna try!
683
00:39:04,242 --> 00:39:08,037
— I'm hoping, if we secure funding...
684
00:39:08,037 --> 00:39:09,664
— So when I met Mark...
685
00:39:10,581 --> 00:39:12,708
Oh my gosh, he knew like
a thousand of them.
686
00:39:13,042 --> 00:39:16,462
And I remember asking him
on a Facebook text like,
687
00:39:16,462 --> 00:39:19,757
"Do you know much about
our Creation stories?"
688
00:39:19,757 --> 00:39:21,676
I didn't know he was a Tohunga.
689
00:39:21,676 --> 00:39:23,177
I didn't know
690
00:39:23,177 --> 00:39:25,554
that he was a walking encyclopedia.
691
00:39:25,554 --> 00:39:28,891
All I knew was that there
was this man interested in me.
692
00:39:40,611 --> 00:39:43,406
— There are many, many Pūrākau
693
00:39:43,406 --> 00:39:45,908
or stories that we can use
694
00:39:45,908 --> 00:39:47,868
depending on whatever circumstance
695
00:39:47,868 --> 00:39:49,996
in the now we are experiencing.
696
00:39:53,582 --> 00:39:55,835
We use those stories to help people
697
00:39:55,835 --> 00:39:57,837
familiarize themselves
698
00:39:57,837 --> 00:39:59,547
with not just their genealogy,
699
00:39:59,547 --> 00:40:02,883
but they feel huge compassion
towards their ancestor
700
00:40:02,883 --> 00:40:04,969
who went through this emotional injury.
701
00:40:04,969 --> 00:40:06,512
But not only that, they—
702
00:40:06,512 --> 00:40:07,972
it resonates with them because
703
00:40:07,972 --> 00:40:09,265
they're going through the same thing.
704
00:40:16,397 --> 00:40:19,734
— Nice...
705
00:40:19,759 --> 00:40:20,876
It was pretty good!
706
00:40:20,901 --> 00:40:22,820
— Find a room!
— You'll find a room.
707
00:40:24,655 --> 00:40:27,158
— The tears of their
ancestors became the stars,
708
00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:28,951
the moon and the sun,
709
00:40:28,951 --> 00:40:32,621
that provided light for everybody else.
710
00:40:42,256 --> 00:40:44,133
— What Mahi a Atua is about,
711
00:40:44,133 --> 00:40:47,762
is thinking about Māori knowledge.
712
00:40:48,304 --> 00:40:51,057
The way that we understand and experience
713
00:40:51,057 --> 00:40:53,309
the Universe from a Māori perspective.
714
00:40:53,976 --> 00:40:56,353
How do we operationalize
715
00:40:56,353 --> 00:40:57,980
all of that knowledge?
716
00:40:58,522 --> 00:41:00,816
— All of those three Atua,
717
00:41:00,816 --> 00:41:05,571
(speaking Māori language)
718
00:41:05,571 --> 00:41:07,698
worked as a collective.
719
00:41:07,698 --> 00:41:10,076
— How do we make sense of a Māori story,
720
00:41:10,076 --> 00:41:12,078
a Creation story
721
00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:13,788
in a healing space?
722
00:41:13,788 --> 00:41:17,041
And we term that Mahi a Atua
723
00:41:17,041 --> 00:41:19,585
and it's really ancestral healing.
724
00:41:19,585 --> 00:41:22,379
— The daughter had said,
725
00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:23,714
I've already got four kids,
726
00:41:23,714 --> 00:41:25,382
it was like having a fifth child!
727
00:41:26,926 --> 00:41:30,137
We train people to practice
728
00:41:30,137 --> 00:41:31,764
this way of thinking
729
00:41:31,764 --> 00:41:35,267
and this way of understanding
your existence in this world.
730
00:41:36,602 --> 00:41:39,438
And in order for them to maintain
731
00:41:39,438 --> 00:41:41,398
that way of being,
732
00:41:41,398 --> 00:41:42,817
we have three principles.
733
00:42:04,588 --> 00:42:06,423
So, the first one
734
00:42:06,423 --> 00:42:08,050
in our language is
735
00:42:08,050 --> 00:42:09,718
Tēnei te Pō Nau mai te Ao,
736
00:42:09,718 --> 00:42:13,597
which translates to
"indigenize your spaces,"
737
00:42:13,597 --> 00:42:15,891
not just your environment around you,
738
00:42:15,891 --> 00:42:17,560
but also internally.
739
00:42:19,603 --> 00:42:22,064
Rather than decolonizing yourself,
740
00:42:22,064 --> 00:42:24,108
indigenize yourself.
741
00:42:26,235 --> 00:42:27,945
The second one in our language is
742
00:42:27,945 --> 00:42:30,823
Ka mate ariki ka mate tauira.
743
00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:35,077
And that means to forever being
744
00:42:35,077 --> 00:42:37,121
inquisitive and be a learner.
745
00:42:39,123 --> 00:42:41,041
Whenever you go into a situation,
746
00:42:41,041 --> 00:42:42,877
go with empty baskets,
747
00:42:42,877 --> 00:42:45,921
so that you can get those
people that you're with,
748
00:42:45,921 --> 00:42:47,673
to fill your basket up.
749
00:42:50,843 --> 00:42:52,469
Seek balance.
750
00:42:55,681 --> 00:42:58,559
The last principle is the hardest one.
751
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,686
In our language it is
752
00:43:00,686 --> 00:43:02,188
Hongi Hongi te wheiwheia,
753
00:43:02,188 --> 00:43:03,981
which translated means
754
00:43:03,981 --> 00:43:06,358
to "inhale the unusual."
755
00:43:07,234 --> 00:43:09,862
What we're talking about
is a culture of feedback.
756
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,908
And predominantly negative feedback.
757
00:43:13,908 --> 00:43:16,660
Not feedback to destroy somebody.
758
00:43:16,660 --> 00:43:20,539
It is a feedback to create collective growth.
759
00:43:29,298 --> 00:43:31,091
— Just knowing who we are,
760
00:43:31,091 --> 00:43:32,718
where we come from,
761
00:43:32,718 --> 00:43:35,346
knowing the stories of our ancestors,
762
00:43:36,263 --> 00:43:40,017
and trying to reclaim
those stories as our own,
763
00:43:40,017 --> 00:43:43,103
and I think that can
764
00:43:43,103 --> 00:43:45,564
bind a lot of the trauma,
765
00:43:46,732 --> 00:43:49,985
that has been passed down
from generation to generation.
766
00:43:59,411 --> 00:44:02,039
— And I think, we're at
a time now, as Māori people,
767
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:03,332
we are happy to
768
00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:06,377
embrace what happened to our ancestors.
769
00:44:11,632 --> 00:44:14,218
We know that Māori were a strong people,
770
00:44:15,094 --> 00:44:17,346
and we were wrong-done by
771
00:44:17,346 --> 00:44:19,139
the government of New Zealand.
772
00:44:19,139 --> 00:44:21,934
And we have the tools, I think,
773
00:44:21,934 --> 00:44:24,311
I think we have the tools
now to heal ourselves.
774
00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:41,620
Each Mōteatea holds an energy,
775
00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:44,164
a vibration, our story
776
00:44:44,164 --> 00:44:46,792
that can benefit
777
00:44:46,792 --> 00:44:49,211
us as their descendants.
778
00:44:53,132 --> 00:44:56,218
I was at university in 2009,
779
00:44:56,218 --> 00:44:59,263
and I came across, just by chance,
780
00:44:59,263 --> 00:45:03,559
the lament that my ancestors, Hinemoa wrote
781
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:08,772
at the passing of her
beloved husband Tutanekai.
782
00:45:12,651 --> 00:45:14,987
— And I couldn't believe my eyes because
783
00:45:14,987 --> 00:45:16,947
I had grown up on
784
00:45:16,947 --> 00:45:19,533
the love story of Hinemoa Tutanekai,
785
00:45:19,533 --> 00:45:22,161
however, the lament
that she wrote captures
786
00:45:22,161 --> 00:45:24,955
a different side to the story,
that it wasn't quite
787
00:45:24,955 --> 00:45:26,665
a fairy tale as we thought.
788
00:45:26,665 --> 00:45:29,877
The anguish and the sadness
that is expressed
789
00:45:29,877 --> 00:45:31,879
in the words of Hinemoa.
790
00:45:36,633 --> 00:45:39,011
I brought them back
to my elders and asked them,
791
00:45:39,011 --> 00:45:42,473
"Do you know the tune
to this Mōteatea?"
792
00:45:42,473 --> 00:45:43,932
And nobody knew,
793
00:45:43,932 --> 00:45:46,352
because it had been lost for so long.
794
00:45:49,271 --> 00:45:52,066
I firmly believe that
Mōteatea are the window
795
00:45:52,066 --> 00:45:54,193
to the world of our ancestors,
796
00:45:54,193 --> 00:45:56,904
the way of living their language,
797
00:45:56,904 --> 00:45:59,323
customs and the people of the time,
798
00:45:59,323 --> 00:46:02,534
and the raw emotion
at the time of composition.
799
00:46:26,809 --> 00:46:30,521
Kapa Haka itself is now an important part
800
00:46:30,521 --> 00:46:33,399
of the revitalization of
801
00:46:33,399 --> 00:46:35,359
our language and our culture,
802
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:38,070
because so many Māori
803
00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:39,947
participate in Kapa Haka.
804
00:46:39,947 --> 00:46:43,534
I mean, there are almost 2,000 performers
805
00:46:43,534 --> 00:46:46,912
attending, participating in the upcoming
806
00:46:46,912 --> 00:46:49,248
Te Matatini competition, National competition.
807
00:46:49,248 --> 00:46:52,418
So 2,000 performers
and we're expecting over
808
00:46:52,418 --> 00:46:54,670
50,000 audience members.
809
00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:58,173
— ...change, yeah?
— Yeah!
810
00:46:59,341 --> 00:47:02,886
Not (speaking Māori language), again.
811
00:47:02,886 --> 00:47:05,347
— I'm the head tutor of
812
00:47:05,347 --> 00:47:07,224
Te Kapa Haka o Ngāti Whakaue.
813
00:47:07,224 --> 00:47:09,768
Now I've been Head tutor
814
00:47:09,768 --> 00:47:11,603
for seven years now,
815
00:47:11,603 --> 00:47:13,730
and this will only be
our second Nationals.
816
00:47:24,908 --> 00:47:26,869
— We've been practicing now for
817
00:47:26,869 --> 00:47:28,954
about six months for this competition.
818
00:47:28,954 --> 00:47:30,330
We've put the program together.
819
00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:31,915
We've taught it to our group.
820
00:47:31,915 --> 00:47:33,917
We've picked our best performers,
821
00:47:33,917 --> 00:47:36,879
in the hope that we make the finals,
822
00:47:36,879 --> 00:47:40,507
because it's something our
tribe has never done before.
823
00:47:40,507 --> 00:47:42,426
But that's what we're aiming for.
824
00:47:45,554 --> 00:47:48,515
Kapa Haka is modeled
825
00:47:48,515 --> 00:47:50,559
from the protocols
826
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:52,311
of a welcoming ceremony.
827
00:47:52,311 --> 00:47:55,689
The Mōteatea is one of the key customs
828
00:47:55,689 --> 00:47:57,649
of that welcoming ceremony.
829
00:47:58,525 --> 00:48:01,111
So that's where Mōteatea
fits in with Kapa Haka.
830
00:48:01,111 --> 00:48:03,405
I think it's a vessel,
831
00:48:03,405 --> 00:48:05,824
or a vehicle
832
00:48:05,824 --> 00:48:08,994
in delivering the language, the culture
833
00:48:08,994 --> 00:48:11,580
and our customs to our people.
834
00:48:23,175 --> 00:48:26,053
— You two gotta get off your feet.
835
00:48:26,053 --> 00:48:28,138
Change!
836
00:49:17,646 --> 00:49:19,273
— For me, one of the things
837
00:49:19,273 --> 00:49:21,984
about Rongoā or healing
838
00:49:21,984 --> 00:49:24,403
is that we can come in at it
839
00:49:24,403 --> 00:49:26,655
from multiple perspectives.
840
00:49:26,655 --> 00:49:29,408
We'll see people that
work really proficiently
841
00:49:29,408 --> 00:49:31,076
with plant medicines.
842
00:49:31,076 --> 00:49:33,579
We'll see people that
work really proficiently
843
00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:35,706
in terms of bodywork.
844
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:40,168
We'll see people
845
00:49:40,168 --> 00:49:42,796
who use things like Haka.
846
00:49:42,796 --> 00:49:45,841
They have their way of
bringing about healing
847
00:49:45,841 --> 00:49:47,467
through that medium.
848
00:49:47,467 --> 00:49:49,553
We will see through our arts.
849
00:50:20,083 --> 00:50:21,460
Kia ora tatou.
850
00:50:26,673 --> 00:50:28,592
When we talk about healing,
851
00:50:28,592 --> 00:50:30,010
Karakia,
852
00:50:31,053 --> 00:50:33,930
is a healing, is a role.
853
00:50:37,476 --> 00:50:39,811
— Karakia is often
translated as "prayer."
854
00:50:40,646 --> 00:50:43,398
I personally don't
subscribe to that because,
855
00:50:43,398 --> 00:50:46,652
you know, I learned prayer
in a Christian context.
856
00:50:46,652 --> 00:50:48,570
— They're not called prayers.
857
00:50:48,570 --> 00:50:49,946
They're called Takutaku.
858
00:50:51,406 --> 00:50:55,160
It's a chant from the old, the old ways.
859
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,330
And that chant, in that chant,
is what they call
860
00:50:58,330 --> 00:51:00,666
the vibration and frequency.
861
00:51:01,333 --> 00:51:02,709
We tap into that.
862
00:51:02,709 --> 00:51:05,587
— You know, Karakia helps us
disconnect from the things
863
00:51:05,587 --> 00:51:07,506
that busy the mind and the heart.
864
00:51:07,506 --> 00:51:10,967
So that when we need to hear
the voices of our ancestors
865
00:51:10,967 --> 00:51:13,970
and the advice and the
direction of our ancestors,
866
00:51:13,970 --> 00:51:17,265
Karakia can help open those channels.
867
00:51:17,265 --> 00:51:20,435
— People can heal by just doing Karakia.
868
00:51:49,756 --> 00:51:52,050
— There are whole different levels of teaching.
869
00:51:52,643 --> 00:51:55,900
So there's the learning of Karakia,
870
00:51:55,929 --> 00:51:56,972
your Whakapapa.
871
00:51:59,766 --> 00:52:02,477
— Whakapapa, your genealogy,
872
00:52:02,477 --> 00:52:04,896
right back to the Creator.
873
00:52:04,896 --> 00:52:06,440
— Then there's another level,
874
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,359
the art of doing Tā moko.
875
00:52:12,946 --> 00:52:15,907
— Moko, which is a Māori tattoo,
876
00:52:15,907 --> 00:52:18,577
culturally restricted to Māori people
877
00:52:18,577 --> 00:52:20,579
or people of Māori heritage.
878
00:52:25,625 --> 00:52:27,335
— This is what we call a Mataora.
879
00:52:28,044 --> 00:52:30,172
Before you can get this,
880
00:52:30,172 --> 00:52:32,174
you have to do all this,
881
00:52:32,174 --> 00:52:33,467
right up to your back,
882
00:52:34,426 --> 00:52:36,970
before you're allowed to
have this on your face.
883
00:52:39,806 --> 00:52:42,768
— They're tools for us
to use to connect us.
884
00:52:43,393 --> 00:52:45,854
Māori people want to feel this assurance
885
00:52:45,854 --> 00:52:47,731
that the ancestry is with them.
886
00:52:47,731 --> 00:52:51,026
— Every person would
have a different design,
887
00:52:51,026 --> 00:52:53,862
which meant something that they had to do.
888
00:52:55,989 --> 00:52:57,949
— And in our history,
889
00:52:57,949 --> 00:53:01,036
our ancestors that did
navigate across the oceans,
890
00:53:01,036 --> 00:53:03,538
they had star clusters
tattooed on their backs.
891
00:53:04,748 --> 00:53:06,792
So that the navigator could look at some—
892
00:53:06,792 --> 00:53:09,002
one of the crew's back,
893
00:53:09,002 --> 00:53:10,587
and understand: "Right,
894
00:53:11,463 --> 00:53:13,089
there's bad weather in the direction
895
00:53:13,089 --> 00:53:14,633
that we should be going,
896
00:53:14,633 --> 00:53:18,512
this chart, that's
tattooed on a man's back,
897
00:53:18,512 --> 00:53:21,139
tells me, we have an
option to go this way."
898
00:53:23,642 --> 00:53:25,477
— The world works in many different ways.
899
00:53:28,188 --> 00:53:30,315
Next one is the art of medicine.
900
00:53:38,198 --> 00:53:41,701
All the plants have their
own medicinal purpose,
901
00:53:41,701 --> 00:53:42,786
everything.
902
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:53,129
So if I have to go into
the forest to get a plant,
903
00:53:54,589 --> 00:53:56,716
then I must acknowledge the forest,
904
00:53:56,716 --> 00:53:58,760
and ask for permission to go in.
905
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,971
Then when I do find the plant that I need,
906
00:54:00,971 --> 00:54:04,808
I'll also ask that plant, "Can I have you?
907
00:54:04,808 --> 00:54:06,518
And the reason why I need you."
908
00:54:06,518 --> 00:54:10,063
Plus, the leaves tell you,
what are they good for.
909
00:54:10,063 --> 00:54:11,898
It's the shape of your lungs,
910
00:54:11,898 --> 00:54:13,567
the shape of your—
911
00:54:13,567 --> 00:54:15,443
the kawa kawa, shape of your heart.
912
00:54:16,403 --> 00:54:17,779
Then you know it's for your heart.
913
00:54:17,779 --> 00:54:20,282
They've already told us who they are,
914
00:54:20,282 --> 00:54:21,491
and what they're good for.
915
00:54:21,491 --> 00:54:23,743
— We call, I call it the
language of the Ngahere,
916
00:54:23,743 --> 00:54:25,036
the language of the forest.
917
00:54:25,036 --> 00:54:27,080
And when you learn that language,
918
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,583
you can go anywhere in the world.
919
00:54:29,583 --> 00:54:33,044
And you can share in their knowledge.
920
00:54:35,755 --> 00:54:37,591
— The trees have their own feelings,
921
00:54:37,591 --> 00:54:39,718
they have their own
vibration and frequency.
922
00:54:39,718 --> 00:54:41,469
They have their own souls.
923
00:54:41,469 --> 00:54:43,096
Part of the work that I do,
924
00:54:43,096 --> 00:54:46,141
it's about healing our Native.
925
00:54:46,141 --> 00:54:47,767
So we have the kauri.
926
00:54:49,102 --> 00:54:50,770
The kauri is dying,
927
00:54:50,770 --> 00:54:53,356
from this bug that's in the water,
928
00:54:53,356 --> 00:54:54,816
that goes up,
929
00:54:55,901 --> 00:54:58,445
and it goes to the heart of
the tree and kills the tree.
930
00:54:59,988 --> 00:55:02,866
So we have a story, we call it a Pūrākau,
931
00:55:02,866 --> 00:55:05,410
—a Pūrākau is a story,
that's been handed down
932
00:55:05,410 --> 00:55:06,912
through the generations—
933
00:55:06,912 --> 00:55:08,580
where they talk about that the whale,
934
00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:10,165
is a brother to the kauri.
935
00:55:10,165 --> 00:55:13,084
— The kauri, the coat that
was given to the kauri,
936
00:55:13,084 --> 00:55:15,128
this is his coat.
937
00:55:15,128 --> 00:55:17,255
They're exactly the same
938
00:55:17,255 --> 00:55:18,798
as when you look at a whale,
939
00:55:18,798 --> 00:55:20,800
look at a kauri.
940
00:55:27,849 --> 00:55:29,684
— When the kauri became unwell,
941
00:55:31,353 --> 00:55:34,230
the whale could hear
the vibration and frequency,
942
00:55:35,941 --> 00:55:37,567
and tries to come back onto land,
943
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,070
and dies on the land.
944
00:55:41,738 --> 00:55:43,323
I decided,
945
00:55:43,323 --> 00:55:45,200
that if the whale can't get to the kauri,
946
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,243
I will take the whale to the kauri.
947
00:55:55,585 --> 00:55:57,379
And so I began.
948
00:55:57,379 --> 00:55:59,631
I asked for the bones of the whale.
949
00:56:00,715 --> 00:56:02,050
I crushed it up into powder.
950
00:56:03,093 --> 00:56:05,345
Then I asked for the spermaceti,
951
00:56:05,345 --> 00:56:07,931
which is the oil in the head,
which is a healing.
952
00:56:09,182 --> 00:56:10,266
And then I took it,
953
00:56:10,266 --> 00:56:11,810
I cleaned the wound
954
00:56:11,810 --> 00:56:12,978
and then I put it on.
955
00:56:34,582 --> 00:56:36,167
And I sprayed around the tree,
956
00:56:36,167 --> 00:56:39,504
with what we call Kahikātoa or tea tree.
957
00:56:43,758 --> 00:56:45,593
I knew if it kills anything,
958
00:56:45,593 --> 00:56:47,095
that will kill the bug.
959
00:56:48,096 --> 00:56:49,931
So I sprayed around the tree,
960
00:56:50,682 --> 00:56:52,892
and there was one tree
that was really bad.
961
00:57:10,285 --> 00:57:12,579
It was really bad,
I thought it wouldn't survive.
962
00:57:13,747 --> 00:57:15,540
I kept going back to check the trees
963
00:57:15,540 --> 00:57:18,501
and I could see it really
starting to come right,
964
00:57:18,501 --> 00:57:20,045
it started to heal.
965
00:57:28,219 --> 00:57:30,930
But then, people started hearing about it
966
00:57:30,930 --> 00:57:34,142
and started to talk
to some of the scientists
967
00:57:34,768 --> 00:57:37,645
about doing some research
on the Rongoā that I was—
968
00:57:38,897 --> 00:57:40,440
and of course they didn't believe it.
969
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,942
And so one of them checked
the Rongoā that I used,
970
00:57:42,942 --> 00:57:44,527
which was the tea tree,
971
00:57:44,527 --> 00:57:45,945
and they put it against the bug,
972
00:57:45,945 --> 00:57:47,697
and when the tea tree
got close to the bug,
973
00:57:47,697 --> 00:57:49,157
the bug exploded,
974
00:57:50,033 --> 00:57:51,367
and it could kill the bug.
975
00:57:58,917 --> 00:58:00,752
They did a study on the whale,
976
00:58:01,294 --> 00:58:03,004
and they finally realized there is a cure
977
00:58:03,004 --> 00:58:04,214
in the whale bone.
978
00:58:04,964 --> 00:58:06,758
All those trees survived.
979
00:58:06,758 --> 00:58:09,719
The one that was so bad, had a new skin.
980
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:13,473
The old fell off, and the new wood grew.
981
00:58:15,433 --> 00:58:16,810
The government is paying thousands
982
00:58:16,810 --> 00:58:19,395
and millions of dollars for research,
983
00:58:20,688 --> 00:58:22,107
where we do it for nothing.
984
00:58:24,192 --> 00:58:26,986
Because our job is to look after them.
985
00:58:27,987 --> 00:58:30,240
Not going around looking for money.
986
00:58:45,329 --> 00:58:47,843
— Ko te whenua ko au, ko au ko te whenua.
987
00:58:47,882 --> 00:58:50,218
I am the land and the land is me.
988
00:58:50,718 --> 00:58:51,970
We are the land.
989
00:58:52,929 --> 00:58:56,099
Because when we talk about
someone who's pregnant
990
00:58:56,933 --> 00:58:58,685
and the placenta,
991
00:58:58,685 --> 00:59:01,646
the placenta is what we call Te Whenua,
992
00:59:02,647 --> 00:59:03,773
the land.
993
00:59:03,773 --> 00:59:05,316
You come from the placenta,
994
00:59:06,317 --> 00:59:09,279
and then you will come onto the land,
995
00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:11,030
and you'll be taught on that land,
996
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:12,699
and you will die on that land,
997
00:59:12,699 --> 00:59:14,659
and you will return to that land.
998
00:59:42,770 --> 00:59:44,300
— Oh, yeah, look, tightening.
999
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:48,400
Beautiful!
1000
00:59:51,905 --> 00:59:54,908
So part of this is also to
teach the husband, you know,
1001
00:59:54,908 --> 00:59:58,077
you know, it's to empower them to—
1002
00:59:58,077 --> 01:00:00,371
to allow them to have their time
1003
01:00:00,371 --> 01:00:02,248
with the baby too.
1004
01:00:02,248 --> 01:00:04,334
Jarroa has been connecting ever since,
1005
01:00:04,334 --> 01:00:05,627
right from the beginning.
1006
01:00:06,961 --> 01:00:08,421
So comfy, eh?
1007
01:00:10,089 --> 01:00:11,591
And come to the back.
1008
01:00:11,591 --> 01:00:13,218
— You know, he didn't know how to do that.
1009
01:00:13,218 --> 01:00:14,594
I said, "No, you're the papa.
1010
01:00:14,594 --> 01:00:16,346
You know, you knew
how to make the baby."
1011
01:00:16,346 --> 01:00:18,431
Well, you know.
1012
01:00:18,431 --> 01:00:20,350
So and look, he was so happy.
1013
01:00:20,350 --> 01:00:22,143
He said, "I can feel baba!"
1014
01:00:22,143 --> 01:00:23,853
I said, "Here you go!
1015
01:00:23,853 --> 01:00:25,355
Baby will come this weekend."
1016
01:00:27,815 --> 01:00:30,360
You know, it's about
giving back the knowledge.
1017
01:00:30,985 --> 01:00:32,403
And you give it back with integrity,
1018
01:00:32,403 --> 01:00:34,239
so that it stays integral,
1019
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,825
and people are standing
in the mana, with dignity.
1020
01:00:37,825 --> 01:00:39,494
And then you can touch eternity.
1021
01:00:39,494 --> 01:00:41,162
— Yeah, just, yeah.
1022
01:00:42,330 --> 01:00:44,290
Oh, that's good muscle release, eh?
1023
01:00:44,290 --> 01:00:47,085
— Ooooh...
— Yeah
1024
01:00:47,085 --> 01:00:50,296
yeah. So baby is centered.
1025
01:00:50,296 --> 01:00:51,297
Yeah?
1026
01:00:51,297 --> 01:00:53,383
— Before I kinda lost it a little.
1027
01:00:53,383 --> 01:00:55,134
Today was a little bit like...
1028
01:00:55,134 --> 01:00:58,388
just tucked away, yeah,
and I couldn't, kind of,
1029
01:00:58,388 --> 01:00:59,514
it wasn't right.
1030
01:00:59,973 --> 01:01:01,224
— Healing is...
1031
01:01:02,016 --> 01:01:04,227
inter-generational,
1032
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:07,605
but it's also
multi-generational.
1033
01:01:12,694 --> 01:01:14,362
One of the young women
1034
01:01:14,362 --> 01:01:15,738
was carrying an energy
1035
01:01:15,738 --> 01:01:17,907
that didn't belong to her.
1036
01:01:17,907 --> 01:01:21,452
But it was a tribal energy
and they chose her,
1037
01:01:21,452 --> 01:01:25,123
because she was the one that had...
1038
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,043
the will and the way to carry it,
1039
01:01:29,043 --> 01:01:32,380
even though her mind had blocked
1040
01:01:33,214 --> 01:01:35,341
the reason why she was doing it,
1041
01:02:12,670 --> 01:02:16,466
— Turn to the side. Turn onto your side.
1042
01:02:16,466 --> 01:02:18,551
— When you look at rape
1043
01:02:19,385 --> 01:02:22,096
as something that is passed down,
1044
01:02:22,930 --> 01:02:25,767
there are times when
it comes into my space,
1045
01:02:25,767 --> 01:02:27,060
or when I'm working with women
1046
01:02:27,060 --> 01:02:30,521
and I sense or I know that it's there,
1047
01:02:30,521 --> 01:02:32,357
my job is to stop it,
1048
01:02:32,357 --> 01:02:35,276
so it doesn't go down any further.
1049
01:02:38,946 --> 01:02:40,406
— I can't breathe.
1050
01:02:42,784 --> 01:02:45,370
— You can breathe.
1051
01:02:46,454 --> 01:02:49,999
— In terms of the
inter-generational,
1052
01:02:49,999 --> 01:02:51,209
I see it
1053
01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:54,587
come in at a time frame,
1054
01:02:54,587 --> 01:02:57,382
maybe two or three elders past.
1055
01:02:58,257 --> 01:03:00,176
And if we can take people back
1056
01:03:00,176 --> 01:03:02,887
to just beyond that time frame,
1057
01:03:02,887 --> 01:03:06,808
and weave that energy and clear it,
1058
01:03:06,808 --> 01:03:09,602
then come back to here now,
1059
01:03:09,602 --> 01:03:12,688
most times it stops it going any further.
1060
01:03:19,153 --> 01:03:21,280
— Slowly breathing down.
1061
01:03:24,492 --> 01:03:26,160
— The work we're taught,
1062
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,247
it is instantaneous,
if the person allows us
1063
01:03:29,247 --> 01:03:31,791
and opens their mind up
1064
01:03:31,791 --> 01:03:33,459
to the possibility.
1065
01:03:34,752 --> 01:03:35,962
— Do you want to sit up?
1066
01:03:35,962 --> 01:03:36,963
— Yeah.
1067
01:03:36,963 --> 01:03:38,339
— I want to give you a big hug.
1068
01:03:45,721 --> 01:03:48,307
— To reconnect to their own
1069
01:03:49,684 --> 01:03:51,853
ancestry, their own ways of being,
1070
01:03:51,853 --> 01:03:54,730
their own culture, their own ceremonies,
1071
01:03:54,730 --> 01:03:57,400
their own chants, their songs,
1072
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,318
all those things that they've—
1073
01:03:59,318 --> 01:04:01,529
a lot of our people have been denied,
1074
01:04:02,655 --> 01:04:03,906
that is healing.
1075
01:06:22,086 --> 01:06:23,588
— The crowd loved that performance
1076
01:06:23,588 --> 01:06:25,548
by our final finalists here,
1077
01:06:25,548 --> 01:06:27,633
the 12th Kapa to take to the stage
1078
01:06:27,633 --> 01:06:29,927
here at the Tamaki Makaurau, the finals,
1079
01:06:29,927 --> 01:06:32,388
of the Te Matatini 2023
1080
01:06:32,388 --> 01:06:36,058
Ngati Whakaue, what a
fantastic performance!
1081
01:06:36,058 --> 01:06:38,227
And there we see their
supporters, as I say,
1082
01:06:38,227 --> 01:06:40,563
proud, and they should
be really, really proud
1083
01:06:40,563 --> 01:06:42,398
of their whanaunga that took to the stage.
1084
01:06:55,077 --> 01:06:56,120
— Many different hats,
1085
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,455
Many different thoughts,
1086
01:06:57,455 --> 01:06:58,956
many different ways;
1087
01:07:00,124 --> 01:07:01,584
only one result,
1088
01:07:03,294 --> 01:07:04,462
and that is to heal.
1089
01:07:06,547 --> 01:07:08,382
— For me, I'm just the conduit, yeah?
1090
01:07:08,382 --> 01:07:09,675
I'm not the healer.
1091
01:07:10,843 --> 01:07:12,845
The person on the table
is actually the healer.
1092
01:07:16,265 --> 01:07:18,100
— It's not our job to fix them.
1093
01:07:18,809 --> 01:07:21,687
Especially, if they're going
to go in the healing realm.
1094
01:07:21,687 --> 01:07:24,357
All we can do is wake them up to freedom,
1095
01:07:24,357 --> 01:07:26,692
and the rest is theirs.
1096
01:07:44,001 --> 01:07:47,046
— You know, the distress
is not an individual thing.
1097
01:07:47,797 --> 01:07:50,299
Neither is the pathway or
the journey through it.
1098
01:07:58,974 --> 01:08:01,018
— I am the living face
1099
01:08:01,018 --> 01:08:03,020
of those who went before me.
1100
01:08:03,604 --> 01:08:07,400
I am simply, at the end
of a very long line
1101
01:08:07,817 --> 01:08:10,820
continuing the work that they began,
1102
01:08:10,820 --> 01:08:13,489
generation upon generation ago.
1103
01:08:15,032 --> 01:08:17,326
— Healing is about existing
1104
01:08:18,452 --> 01:08:20,788
through the highs and lows
of their stories,
1105
01:08:20,788 --> 01:08:23,207
and our relationships with each other,
1106
01:08:23,207 --> 01:08:24,458
with ourselves.
1107
01:08:25,292 --> 01:08:27,336
The good, the bad, the ugly,
1108
01:08:27,336 --> 01:08:30,256
and never being complete.
1109
01:08:31,465 --> 01:08:34,176
And our whole reality
1110
01:08:34,176 --> 01:08:37,346
is about finding ourselves,
1111
01:08:37,346 --> 01:08:40,725
in our journey to arrive
at our final breath.
1112
01:09:11,547 --> 01:09:13,466
— Living is a terminal condition.
1113
01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:16,594
Being alive is a terminal condition.
1114
01:09:16,594 --> 01:09:18,345
Dying is not losing.
1115
01:09:18,345 --> 01:09:20,139
We will all die and we will have
1116
01:09:20,139 --> 01:09:22,433
all contributed along the way.
1117
01:09:22,433 --> 01:09:24,602
So it's not about preventing death,
1118
01:09:24,602 --> 01:09:27,188
it's about enabling life.
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