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Halden Maximum
Security Prison, Norway.
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Home to violent criminals...
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rapists,
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and murderers.
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- What did you do with the body?
- I buried it.
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But this controversial prison
doesn't just lock the inmates up.
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Its mission is to turn their lives around.
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I'm slightly unhinged by the lack of bars.
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My name is Raphael Rowe,
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and I'm spending a week banged up
in this Norwegian prison
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to find out how they do it.
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But it's not my first time behind bars.
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I was convicted in the UK of a murder
I didn't commit
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and sentenced to life with no parole.
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Now, I'm traveling the globe
to discover what life is really like
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inside some of the world's
toughest prisons.
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Set in a pine forest 15 miles
from the border with Sweden,
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Halden Prison is a state-of-the-art
maximum security facility.
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Purpose-built in 2010,
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it holds some of Norway's
most dangerous inmates:
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murderers, drug traffickers,
and violent criminals.
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And I'm about to be locked up here.
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Do we lock up prisoners
and throw away the key?
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Do we punish prisoners
because of what they've done?
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Or do we rehabilitate these prisoners?
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Halden gives
these hardened criminals
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the best second chance they'll ever get.
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And it seems to work.
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Their reoffending rates
are the lowest in the world.
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But at a massive cost of $120,000
per prisoner, per year,
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Halden's methods and philosophy
have courted controversy.
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I'm told that this is a place
that focuses on rehabilitation,
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and, for me, rehabilitating offenders,
rehabilitating criminals' mind-set
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is probably one of the toughest challenges
any prison around the world faces.
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In Norway, the maximum sentence
anyone can get is 21 years,
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no matter how horrific the crime.
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So, rehabilitation is essential.
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With a reoffending rate of just 30%,
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I want to find out
how they do things differently.
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I'm now inside
what looks like a concrete dead zone.
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One gate's closed behind me,
and a second huge gate is opening up.
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This is the last time
you walk on free soil.
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This is prison soil.
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I've been checked
into a lot of prisons,
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and it's never a pleasant experience.
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- Hello.
- Hello.
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Hi.
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This is the first time I've had
a welcoming handshake from a guard.
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It's all very civilized.
So, what happens next?
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Now it's time to register you
in the system, book you in.
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And then you have to take
all your clothes off,
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and you get new clothes off us.
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Yeah, I'm not new to that,
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but I never look forward to it.
That's for sure.
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Why are you putting these gloves on?
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It's just to keep us clean from
whatever any inmate have been through.
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So, if I was a very dirty inmate or...
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- Yeah.
- All right.
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Good. That's a good sign.
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I thought maybe you were putting them on
for other, kind of internal searches.
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We're not allowed to do that.
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The strip search
is normally the first chance
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for guards to exert their power
and control over a new arrival.
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Thank you.
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Now we have new clothes for you.
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That's the best part.
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Okay.
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I suspect that you get lots of guys
coming through here
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who don't wanna take their clothes off
because they're hiding something.
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We have to use force then.
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But we are contacting more people,
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so we have more officers
to handle it better.
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In my experience of prison,
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it's been a conflict between
both prisoners and prison staff.
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The battle is constant.
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We're not here to punish you in prison.
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That you're in prison is the punishment.
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You see?
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If you are here for ten years,
and we punish you for ten years,
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who are you gonna be
when you go out to the freedom?
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This is a new experience for me.
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By this stage,
I'm usually feeling humiliated and angry.
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Already, I've been disarmed.
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It's a tough thing for a criminal
because you expect confrontation,
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but what you get...
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from the moment
you arrive in this prison, is...
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I hesitate to say kindness,
but you definitely get respect.
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New prisoners like me
are assigned to Halden's A-block
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to make sure they are drug free.
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Here they are observed and psychiatrically
assessed by the authorities,
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before being moved into
the main prison population.
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- So, this is me?
- This is you.
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Wow...
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- Here, you have the bathroom.
- Okay.
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It's unbelievable. It's like an en suite.
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I've never seen anything like it.
It's amazing.
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Okay. So, I'm in here on my own,
'cause there's one bed, one prisoner.
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It's only for you.
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You have your TV here and closet
to put your clothes and stuff.
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And a fridge here.
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- A fridge?
- In here.
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- I have a fridge.
- Yes.
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This is better
than some hotels I've stayed in.
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What do you expect of me
as a new prisoner on this wing?
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Um, it's to follow the rules we have,
to follow the routines
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and, uh... just behave.
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- Okay? Good luck for now.
- Okay. Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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- Thank you. Bye-bye.
- Bye.
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Wow!
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Criminals' experience
of coming into a prison cell
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is that they are... They are under attack.
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They're being punished.
They're being confined.
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That's what prison's about.
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This is saying to you, "Relax."
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It doesn't look like
or feel like a prison cell.
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But you'd be fooled
if you think coming into a cell
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where you have these privileges
is not tough.
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Why?
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For people who have experienced
nothing but shit in their lives,
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all their lives,
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to be treated like this...
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is gonna challenge
everything they've learned.
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And for me, that can be tougher.
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I'm blown away by what I've seen so far,
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and I'm keen to know what my
fellow inmates on A-block make of it.
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How you doing?
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- Raphael.
- Robin.
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- Robin?
- Nice to meet you.
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So, this is very different to
what I'm used to.
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- Okay.
- Yeah.
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How long you've been in for
and what are you in prison for?
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So, I have served three years
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and have 30 different cases.
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Everything from breaking and entering,
to theft,
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robbery, violence...
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and an attempted murder when I was 14,
which they have included in this sentence.
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Robin says he was under
the influence of drugs and alcohol
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when he stabbed a friend in the neck.
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Most of his three years have been spent
in other prisons.
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He's been on Halden's A-block
for three months.
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I can't help noticing, Robin,
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that you've got quite a lot of scars
on your arms.
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It also suggests to me
that you've had a troubled time.
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What's the story?
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It's evidence of hard...
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hard nights and hard days.
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I've gone through
a pretty harsh process...
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alone.
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Broken myself down to zero
and then built myself back up, bit by bit,
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to be fit to live the life I want to live
outside the bars
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without drugs and crime.
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And in that process,
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I've had to face my own demons.
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Most inmates spend
only a limited time on A-block
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before moving to the main prison, where
they can participate in rehabilitation.
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So, why are you still here?
Are you still under assessment?
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Or do you not want to go over there?
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No, I haven't wished to apply
for a transfer over there.
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I have served three years now.
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So, for me, it's really like... the same.
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It doesn't matter
what ward you are serving in a way.
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Prison is prison.
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I think it was quite telling
that he said
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that he's been in
this A-wing assessment unit,
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and he didn't feel the need to move
from here to other parts of the prison.
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And no matter
how much you offer, as a prison,
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unless they themselves make that decision
that they want to change their behavior,
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you can't get inside and reach them.
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Robin's refusal to engage with the system
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is typical of many inmates
I've met around the world.
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It shows the scale of the challenge
Halden faces,
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when trying to transform
a prisoner's mind-set.
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It's my second day in Halden.
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After a period of assessment,
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inmates who choose
to engage with the system
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are transferred into
the main prison population.
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I'm escorted to C-block
by prison guard Amund.
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And what is the C-unit?
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It's a unit for people who want to work.
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And so what types of prisoners
do you have in C-block?
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We got everything in C-unit,
also in the B-units.
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We don't put only murderers,
only violent people.
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We kind of mix people,
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because it's not important
what they've done.
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Most important
is the human behind the action.
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Normally, I'd be wary of
walking into a new maximum security block.
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But I imagine it'll be different here.
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So, would you describe the men in here
as dangerous and violent?
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No, they don't show us that side.
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- Despite committing murder and other...
- Yeah.
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It's like when they come to prison,
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they are acting kind of different outside,
in their own environment,
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maybe affected with drugs and stuff also.
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But in here, you see another type of guy.
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- Let's see 'em.
- Yeah.
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Hello.
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As I suspected,
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this is not like any prison block
I've ever been on.
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This is very different, isn't it?
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- You are not a prisoner?
- Yeah.
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- Hello. Nice. I'm Raphael.
- Yeah.
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Is that the right thing to do
for a prisoner
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who's here on the first day,
to greet a prison officer?
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- Oh, yeah.
- That's normal, is it?
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This doesn't feel normal,
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a prison officer sitting down on the sofa,
having a chat with prisoners.
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It's like that here.
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Okay.
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Among the inmates,
I'm introduced to Richard,
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who's recently been extradited
back to Norway
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from a Swedish maximum security lockup.
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For me, this is a prison like
no other prison I've ever been in.
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And I've been in quite a few prisons.
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Um...
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It is very different from Sweden.
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Like you said yourself, when you come,
you are greeting a prison officer.
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That was not common there, you know?
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You can get beat up for things like that,
you know?
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But here, it's okay, you know?
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So, I was very shocked when I come here.
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The first...
The first thing they did was greeting me.
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I thought exactly the same thing.
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I came in handcuffs,
came out of the prison van.
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And I'm taken in,
and the officer shook my hand
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before he took the cuffs off.
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- It kind of unbalances you, doesn't it?
- Yeah.
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It makes you feel like, "Hold on.
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This is supposed to be a confrontation.
This is not supposed to be...
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It's not supposed to be like that."
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Prisoners at Halden
are positively encouraged
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to fraternize with guards.
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So, I take the chance to ask Maria
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about the philosophy behind
the friendly faces.
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What I've noticed is you and other staff
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have quite friendly relationships
with the prisoners.
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Yeah, I think so, too. And it's important.
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Why is it important?
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I think that we need to be good examples
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in terms of
how they're supposed to treat others.
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It reflects how they should behave
on the outside.
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We want the prison system
to be as normal as possible.
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So, it should be like that.
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You don't think we should lock 'em up
for many hours of the day?
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- No. No.
- More punishment, not rehabilitation?
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I think that only creates bad neighbors.
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It's called
the normality principle.
248
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The idea is, if you treat people
like animals, you get animals.
249
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And if you treat
even the most hardened criminals
250
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with dignity and respect,
251
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you might just get
a decent, law-abiding human being.
252
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This feels too normal for me.
253
00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,640
Here we are, in prison,
a maximum security prison,
254
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having a cup of coffee in the morning,
255
00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,080
as if we're in your flat
somewhere in Norway.
256
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,600
You know, there is nothing here
that reminds me of prison,
257
00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,920
which I find bizarre,
but, at the same time, reassuring.
258
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,360
Um... Do you have family outside?
259
00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,240
Yeah, I have a family back in Sweden,
260
00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,480
- with my wife and three kids.
- Oh, gosh.
261
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,320
What is your sentence, then?
262
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,560
- So, you got how many years?
- Seventeen years.
263
00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,320
- So, you got 17 years?
- Yeah.
264
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,160
- What was that for?
- Murder.
265
00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,840
What...
266
00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,800
When I say what kind of murder,
I mean what was your...
267
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offense? Did you kill another man?
268
00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,400
Yeah, it was another man.
269
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I don't wanna talk so much about it.
270
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It was heavy enough.
271
00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,200
I'm a convicted murderer, but...
272
00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,120
I don't look at myself like a killer,
you know?
273
00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:15,520
Because what's happened there
happened for a reason.
274
00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,720
It's difficult to describe it with words,
you know, but...
275
00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:26,360
One action doesn't have to define you
as a human being, you know?
276
00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,160
- If you know what I meant...
- I do.
277
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:38,160
Richard is so unusual.
I did not expect him to be a killer.
278
00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,720
Interestingly, he didn't mention once
279
00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:47,080
what the victim's family
of the crime he committed,
280
00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,056
what they're going through,
whether he's remorseful.
281
00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,320
So, I'll be interested to find out
just a bit more about where his head's at.
282
00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,360
Richard has
only recently arrived here,
283
00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,280
and, like me, he's still adapting
to the new regime.
284
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,200
Here at Halden,
inmates are expected to cook,
285
00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,319
clean, study, and go to work,
286
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,358
just like they'll have to
in the outside world.
287
00:17:15,358 --> 00:17:21,040
My first job is to help Theo,C-block's "ganggutt" or "hallway boy,"
288
00:17:21,118 --> 00:17:24,319
who's responsible
for the upkeep of the living unit.
289
00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,440
We don't do it with water.
We do it with soap,
290
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,240
but I can show you later.
First, I close all the doors.
291
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,360
So, all the prisoners have
now gone to work, have they?
292
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If you don't work, they lock you
in your cell, I think, like this one.
293
00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,600
You can see on the...
294
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,520
This one is open,
so he's at work, and he's closed.
295
00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,080
- Right.
- You can see...
296
00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:46,960
- So, handle's up, they're behind the door.
- They're not working, yeah.
297
00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,160
- That's the ganggutt.
- That's the ganggutt.
298
00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,000
- First, you do the dust.
- Okay.
299
00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,480
- Okay, I'll do the dust.
- Yeah.
300
00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,240
Okay.
So, when you've done the dust, you mop.
301
00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,480
God, there's not much dust
on this floor, is there?
302
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,600
No, I keep it tight.
303
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,240
Yeah. Yes, you do.
How's my technique?
304
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,000
- Very good.
- Very good technique, yeah.
305
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,720
Yeah, you can
come back if you want.
306
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:11,400
Yeah?
307
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,920
Originally from Holland,
308
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,280
Theo is part of the 40%
of foreign criminals in Halden.
309
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,640
So, how long have you been
in this Norwegian prison, Halden?
310
00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,840
- Two years and a month.
- And how long are you doing?
311
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,160
- Six years. Yeah.
- Six years?
312
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,280
- What was that for?
- Hashish.
313
00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:32,360
- Hashish?
- Yeah, smuggling hashish.
314
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,840
- Ah.
- Two hundred kilo.
315
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,560
- Two hundred kilo?
- Yeah.
316
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,160
What was that value worth? I've no idea.
317
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,080
Yeah, well, they say it's like
for €1 million something,
318
00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,280
but I think then you sell it
on the street, like little bags.
319
00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:47,160
- You get a high price...
- Million Euro... First offense?
320
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,960
- For drugs, yes.
- Right, so you're a career criminal?
321
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,840
No, I was a football hooligan.
322
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,800
- Were you?
- Yeah.
323
00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,040
- No way.
- Yeah.
324
00:18:56,120 --> 00:19:00,720
- Wow, I would never have thought that.
- No, that's true, but...
325
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,120
- But, then, prison is full of surprises.
- Yes.
326
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,720
Does it feel like you're in prison?
327
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,280
I understand your question,
328
00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,040
because no bars,
and it's not like a prison-prison.
329
00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,400
But still, you're inside.
330
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,920
Yeah, and so you cannot go anywhere.
331
00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,600
And you miss your family.
332
00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:18,040
And so that's... It's still a prison.
333
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,120
So, it doesn't matter that you're
in an environment that is
334
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,440
treating prisoners with humanity,
dignity, respect...
335
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,040
Their focus is on rehabilitating people.
336
00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:29,200
It could be a palace,
337
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,640
but if you cannot get out,
it's still punishment.
338
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,520
Despite
the illusion of normality,
339
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,120
the authorities take no chances
340
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,400
with what are still
potentially dangerous inmates.
341
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,360
With 350 staff to 250 prisoners,
342
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,040
they're under constant surveillance.
343
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,880
Having helped Theo with the cleaning,
344
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,960
I'm escorted to the kitchens
by guard Maria,
345
00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,560
where I've been allocated a job
helping to cook food for the inmates,
346
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,040
alongside another foreign prisoner,
called Emari.
347
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,120
So, what's your job
in this kitchen?
348
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,880
Well, right now, I'm a cook student.
349
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,600
- I'm in my last year and a half...
- Right.
350
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,000
- Of taking my culinary degree.
- Okay.
351
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,320
So, now we're making a fish casserole.
352
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,520
Yeah, it does
smell very fishy in here.
353
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,600
Yeah.
354
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,560
Okay, I can do that.
355
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,680
So, you've just gotta fill this bucket up,
have you?
356
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,000
Both of these buckets.
357
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,680
- How long have you been here, Emari?
- I have two years left.
358
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,280
- Right, two years.
- I've already done five years.
359
00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,600
- You've already done five years?
- Yeah, I've done five.
360
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,120
And forgive my investigative skills,
361
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,600
but I do detect you have
an American accent.
362
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,760
- Yes, I do.
- What are you doing in Norway?
363
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,520
It's a long story,
364
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,720
but I moved to Norway
to play professional basketball.
365
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,400
What went wrong?
366
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,120
- This is a very sensitive subject for me.
- Okay.
367
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,320
- Actually...
- Okay.
368
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,760
But do you mind me asking
what you got your sentence for?
369
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:15,960
Actually... yeah,
I'm a little uncomfortable, at the moment,
370
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,520
talking about that, but...
371
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,360
I don't want you to tell me the detail,
just the offense.
372
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,360
Is it for murder, robbery, rape, theft?
373
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,360
It was rape.
374
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,480
- It was rape.
- I was... Yeah, I was convicted for that.
375
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,840
And what's it been like for you
in prison in Norway?
376
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,160
Prison has definitely changed me
and the way that I look at things,
377
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,080
- the way that I look at life.
- In what way? What do you mean?
378
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,160
I definitely appreciate more
the little things.
379
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,560
Like?
380
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:55,280
Like just being able to go outside
and take a walk on my own.
381
00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:01,960
Just being able to get up
and walk out my door.
382
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,160
And they say that Norway
has good prisons here,
383
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,880
but, at the end of the day...
384
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,360
your freedom taken away
is your freedom taken away,
385
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,480
no matter how good a place is.
Your freedom is gone.
386
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,440
The kitchens provide inmates
with just one meal a day.
387
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,160
If they want anything else to eat,
they're expected to cook for themselves.
388
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,840
They use money from their prison jobs
389
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,920
to buy food from Halden's
very own supermarket.
390
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,680
- Bloody hell.
- It's a real shop.
391
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,120
It is a real shop, isn't it?
This is crazy.
392
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,640
I'm being shown around
by fellow South Londoner Ashley,
393
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,520
who's on remand for
a $280,000 warehouse heist.
394
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,360
We come here once a week.
Everyone comes down here.
395
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,440
That's it. Pick up your basket,
have a mooch around,
396
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,240
and pick up what you want, basically.
397
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,440
They're selling anything.
You get biscuits, shampoo,
398
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,160
deodorant, toothpaste...
399
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,080
- Everything but alcohol, I suppose.
- Yeah, unfortunately, no Stella, mate.
400
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760
Do you have money to buy this stuff,
like proper cash?
401
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,440
No, no. We all...
Everyone has a card.
402
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,776
- So, it's just a small card...
- Right.
403
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Has your bar code on it.
The money's on your card, so it's not...
404
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,600
You don't handle money. Everything's
just done electronically through the card.
405
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,600
Scan your card at the end,
when you do your shopping, and that's it.
406
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,640
What's to stop you coming in here...
407
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:32,240
If you're a prolific shoplifter,
what's to stop you coming in here
408
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,680
and doing what you do best,
409
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,176
which is lift something,
put it in your pocket, and sneak out?
410
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,896
Don't ask me. I think that's probably why
they don't have 'em in England,
411
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,136
'cause they'd get robbed blind.
412
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,560
Generally, everyone in there
would be robbing it.
413
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,096
Every time they go in there,
someone would be robbing something.
414
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,120
- They would, wouldn't they?
- But here, you don't.
415
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,400
Listen, personally, I don't know anyone
416
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,120
that's even said anything
about stealing something from here.
417
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,680
Or, you know, "I nicked
a chocolate bar," or...
418
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,480
There's none of that,
so it seems pretty honest
419
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,440
compared to most prisons.
420
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,600
The shop is another example
of the normality principle,
421
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,000
the prison's philosophy
422
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,280
that gets inmates used
to taking responsibility for themselves.
423
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,760
Back on C-block, I want to catch up
with convicted killer Richard,
424
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,000
who is gradually
getting used to Halden's methods.
425
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,080
- Is this your cell?
- This is my room.
426
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,520
- This is your cell?
- This is my cell.
427
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,200
- You call it a room, though?
- Yeah. It's my room, my apartment.
428
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,360
I'm just kidding.
429
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,640
I'm actually studying
to be an electrician, you know?
430
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,056
Okay, you're studying
to be an electrician?
431
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,256
- Yeah.
- You're training here?
432
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Yeah, in school, you know?
433
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,480
- You do that every day, do you?
- Yeah, every day I'm at school.
434
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,440
Yeah, this look like that, you know?
435
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,880
How often do you get out of your cell?
436
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,360
- I mean, once I'm locked down.
- Yeah.
437
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,040
How often will I get out
of my cell here?
438
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,240
You can see here what I'm talking about.
439
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,640
If you don't work,
you come out to eat breakfast.
440
00:24:56,120 --> 00:25:00,600
Here, eight o'clock, you get locked down.
Then you come out again at three o'clock.
441
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,520
You get to eat,
and then you get locked in,
442
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680
I'll say 3:45.
443
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,920
So, the incentive is to work,
444
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,680
or get out and do a course
or something that you can benefit from.
445
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,240
Or else you just sit in your cell,
where often, that is very bad.
446
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,656
- Yeah, it's bad for your mind.
- Yeah.
447
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,160
- It's bad for you physically.
- Yeah.
448
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,360
Bad for everything, you know?
449
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,560
Halden recognizes
the importance of structure and routine
450
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:27,040
if they are to transform
the criminal mind-set.
451
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,880
It may seem simple,
but for inmates like Richard,
452
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,480
who have lived chaotic lives
outside the prison walls,
453
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,600
this is a serious challenge.
454
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,560
It's either conform or spend
the bulk of the day locked up and alone.
455
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,120
7:00 a.m., and just like
in the outside world,
456
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,080
prisoners from B- and C-blocks
head off to work.
457
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,320
But it's not just about
teaching structure and routine.
458
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,000
- You can go through.
- Today, I'm going to the prison workshops,
459
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,120
where inmates learn practical skills
to make them employable when they leave.
460
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,520
A real garage. Amazing.
461
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,280
With high-tech tools and equipment
for the inmates to work with,
462
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,560
it looks like no expense has been spared.
463
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,080
This is crazy. I'm really impressed
by what I'm seeing here.
464
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,240
These guys are underneath the cars,
doing something. I don't know.
465
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,240
It looks like this guy's changing
the exhaust.
466
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,520
This prison is very clever
in creating a normal environment,
467
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,800
a working environment,
just like you get outside.
468
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,720
And that is blowing my mind away.
469
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,600
When I was in prison,
job training was extremely limited.
470
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,400
At Halden, it's not just mechanics.
471
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Inmates are taught carpentry,
printing and engineering.
472
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,920
I'm here to meet an inmate
called Christian,
473
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,240
who, I'm told, is a repeat offender.
474
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,160
Nice to meet you.
475
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,000
Your hands are warm.
You must be working on something hot.
476
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,080
- Welding. Hold this. No.
- No.
477
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,040
I was just saying,
478
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,320
- it's a well-equipped workhouse, isn't it?
- It is.
479
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,800
You were a mechanic
or a trainee mechanic outside?
480
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,600
While doing drugs, actually.
So, that's my problem: the drug problem.
481
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,400
And how long have you been using drugs?
482
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,440
Since 1997.
483
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,160
- So, 20 years.
- 20 years.
484
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,400
In and out of prison,
in and out of prison.
485
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,040
So, when I'm inside, I'm clean.
When I'm outside, I'm doing drugs,
486
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,120
stealing everything I see, so...
487
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,200
- Stealing to...
- To support the drug habit, yeah.
488
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,096
How many years would you say
you've done altogether?
489
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,800
- Eight years.
- Eight years?
490
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,240
Tough, isn't it?
491
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,320
Well, when we talk about it
like this, it's actually kind of insane.
492
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,040
I'm not getting any younger.
493
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,200
This is my 13th sentence
494
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,400
and this is the 12th prison
I'm in here, in Norway.
495
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,240
But at Halden, Christian feels
he's finally turning his life around.
496
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,160
Why this prison?
What is it about this prison, then?
497
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,920
This is for me, by far,
498
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,600
the best prison I've served
my sentence in any place.
499
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,800
Here, you're presented
with some opportunities
500
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,360
that you don't have in other prisons.
501
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,120
And they're very focused on education
502
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,760
and trying to make
a meaningful prison stay,
503
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,360
- if that makes any sense at all.
- Yeah, I know.
504
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,200
So, it's been hard work, but now
I'm being released in six days, so...
505
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,176
- You're being released in six days?
- Yes, in six days.
506
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,920
So, you've done your time.
507
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,240
I had been to prison for so many times
and so many years.
508
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,160
So, I decided, "Okay, this time,
I'm gonna try."
509
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Christian is a typical criminal
510
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,520
who returns back and forth,
back and forth, to prison.
511
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,920
He says this time, he's in a place
that is helping him change.
512
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,680
A prison doesn't have to be tough
513
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,480
because of its poor conditions,
or because of staff brutality
514
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,160
or inmate-on-inmate brutality.
515
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,040
One of the biggest challenges
is changing the mind-set of a criminal.
516
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,680
Whether or not Christian
succeeds in staying out of prison,
517
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,800
it's taken years of therapy
and job training
518
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,200
to get him to this point
of taking responsibility for his actions.
519
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Back in C-unit,
I'm meeting up with Richard,
520
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,560
who's only been in Halden
for a few months,
521
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,720
to see where he is at in that process.
522
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,440
Richard's crime made news headlines
across Scandinavia,
523
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,640
after he killed a rival drug dealer
muscling in on his turf.
524
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,200
I'm not a cold-blooded murderer
525
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,960
that you just go out
and shoot people, you know?
526
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,840
It was an accident that happened.
527
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,160
- Did you shoot the person you killed?
- Yeah, I shoot the person.
528
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Did the gun go off by accident?
529
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,560
Or did you pull,
point and pull the trigger?
530
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,360
It was... I was... I had no intentions
to kill this person, you know?
531
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,360
But this confrontation that became,
you know...
532
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,200
got out of hand, you know?
533
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,720
So, that's why...
That's why it happened, what's happened.
534
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,520
And what did you do? Give yourself up
straight away? Did that help you?
535
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880
No, no, actually... I did not.
536
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,560
It took seven months
before they come and get me, police.
537
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,640
- Really?
- Yeah.
538
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,000
So, you was in hiding,
on the run? Or they...
539
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,360
No, they...
540
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Actually, it was starting
like a missing person case.
541
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,560
Did they not...
What did you do, not run off?
542
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,120
Did they not discover the body,
and then look for the culprit?
543
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Well, they...
They did not discover the body.
544
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,240
- What did you do with the body?
- I buried it.
545
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,880
That sounds pretty cold-blooded
to me, Richard. I mean, that's...
546
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,120
It sounds like that, but you know...
547
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,640
After what happened had happened,
I had to deal with it in that situation,
548
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,200
because there was a lot of stuff going on
at the time, you know?
549
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Well, one thing led to another,
and soon you become in...
550
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,960
in that position
that you cannot get out of.
551
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,600
Richard's... He's a...
He's a killer.
552
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,440
He shot and killed another man...
553
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,760
and buried the body...
554
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,720
and almost got away
with the perfect murder.
555
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,520
Richard has a long way to go
to change his mind-set.
556
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,520
But he will be released back into society.
557
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Halden has till 2030 to transform him,
558
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,880
so he doesn't return
to a life of drugs and crime.
559
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,080
Critics argue that cold-blooded killers,
hardened criminals, and rapists
560
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,000
don't deserve all this time
and money spent on them.
561
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,960
I mean, look at this place.
562
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,360
I mean, this has got to be worth
563
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,320
tens of thousands of pounds
of recording equipment.
564
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,400
It's a question I'm keen to
put to Dutch drug smuggler Theo.
565
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,656
- How you doing, man?
- Hello, how are you?
566
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,120
I'm very well. Are you good?
567
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,600
So, you're in here, making all this noise
with these drums?
568
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,560
- That was me.
- This is brilliant.
569
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680
It's like out...
It's really a studio, yeah.
570
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,160
How often do you get to come over here
and use these drums?
571
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,960
- Two times a week, we have school.
- Two times a week?
572
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,640
It is amazing, actually.
I can see myself coming out of my cell,
573
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,320
wanting to come in here and...
574
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,360
- Enjoy yourself.
- Yeah.
575
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,336
- Do you enjoy yourself here?
- If I'm here, yes.
576
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,840
I can imagine people outside.
577
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,320
"How dare they spend
this money on prisoners,
578
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,280
when the victim has lost everything
because of what they stole
579
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040
or because of the damage
they caused that person."
580
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,600
Yeah, murder somebody, yeah.
581
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,680
I'm just thinking,
"Who's got the better deal here?
582
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,680
The prisoner, who's gone to prison
and can play drums in an expensive studio?
583
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Or the victim, who is traumatized
by the crime committed against them,
584
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,800
whatever that is?"
It's great. Don't get me wrong...
585
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,560
But you don't want to lock them up
and throw away the key.
586
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,000
- No.
- Because you get then more aggression
587
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,080
when they come out.
588
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,360
Instead, they have something to do,
in prison, that they like.
589
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,640
As long as there are prisons,
I think there is this story of,
590
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,600
"Okay, how can we punish them?"
And, "It's like a hotel."
591
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,880
But it's still the most crucial question
being asked by anybody, isn't it?
592
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040
Yeah, I think that's always
going to be like this,
593
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,600
because still,
like I told you two days ago...
594
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,440
you cannot get out.
595
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,400
You know, you're still locked in.
596
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,160
And you can have a studio and everything,
but still you're...
597
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Yeah, and you're still in jail.
598
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,640
For victims
and people who believe in retribution,
599
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,520
Halden's methods can be hard to accept,
600
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,159
but the results are there
for everyone to see.
601
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,080
Engaged and well-behaved prisoners,
very few of whom will reoffend.
602
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,320
But how does the prison manage it?
603
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,000
How do they maintain
the illusion of normality
604
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,600
while controlling some of the country's
most serious criminals?
605
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,920
To find out,
I want to spend more time with the guards.
606
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,920
I'm joining Amund in C-block's
control room, known as the aquarium.
607
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:43,280
Is this the base for your fellow officers
to monitor what goes on in the wing?
608
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,120
Yeah, we got one here,
just sitting and counting,
609
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,199
and control of the numbers of inmates
and where everybody are.
610
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,880
The other officers are working
out in the hallway, with the inmates.
611
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,360
They're the ones who patrol the landings,
meet and interact with...
612
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,976
- I use the term patrol. You?
- Yeah, but...
613
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,560
No, it's strange for me to patrol
because we don't use that.
614
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,040
We interact a lot.
615
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,120
- Okay.
- We don't, like, go around
616
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,560
where they live, in the units,
just watching.
617
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,720
Not standing in a corner like this
and watching.
618
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,720
- Right.
- We don't do that.
619
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,000
We interact, and that's
the most important thing to do,
620
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000
because then we can see
if they are changing attitude,
621
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,920
if something's wrong,
if something's going to happen.
622
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,120
We call it a kind of dynamic security.
623
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,920
This close,
personal interaction is combined
624
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,080
with a network of cameras
and a sophisticated monitoring system
625
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,320
that tracks prisoners' movements
throughout the prison.
626
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,960
- Every inmate has their own card.
- Right.
627
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,280
And we have a kind of scanning system
every time they go out or in.
628
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,136
- So, they touch their card?
- So, from the units...
629
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,960
- Is it like a bar code on it or something?
- Yeah, like scanning.
630
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,760
That's what those
little bar code guns are for.
631
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600
It is. And then it goes
into the system,
632
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,480
and they kind of switch color,
whether they're inside or outside,
633
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,880
or which building they are in.
634
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,920
And this is also their time schedule
during daytime,
635
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,760
if they are going to work
and which workplace they are going.
636
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,400
The only place
inmates are not watched
637
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,600
is when they're locked in their cells.
638
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,640
But not all prisoners want to conform,
and that's when the talking stops.
639
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,440
They look menacing, when you see them
in this kind of RoboCop outfits?
640
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,240
They look quite frightening, don't they?
641
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,040
Yeah, it's supposed to look
a little bit scary, of course.
642
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,480
But, also, it's for their protection
643
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,400
because we don't know what we go into.
644
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,680
How often do these guys get deployed?
How often do you have inmates
645
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,120
that need to be taken out of the yard
or from their cell?
646
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,840
Sometimes, we have inmates
that we have to do this a lot,
647
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,720
because they won't stop being angry
and trashing their cells.
648
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,240
We try to work like this,
so we don't have to go this far,
649
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,200
by talking to the inmates a lot,
being amongst them in the common areas.
650
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,760
We don't like to dress up like this,
but if we have to, we have to.
651
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,360
The prison has
a unique subterranean tunnel system
652
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,320
that offers rapid access
to any part of the complex.
653
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,120
The guards here
train for every eventuality.
654
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,720
I've agreed to play the role
of a disruptive prisoner,
655
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,360
something I've got experience of.
656
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,360
I'm a bit worried
about going down memory lane.
657
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,440
I've done this for real,
and it's quite brutal.
658
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,600
It can be quite brutal.
659
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,160
And I suffered
some really severe physical injuries
660
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,440
as a result of being extracted from a cell
661
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,560
not once, not twice,
but quite a few times.
662
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120
So, I'm already feeling a bit nervous
663
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,480
about what memories
this is going to bring back
664
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,720
and how emotional I'm feeling
at the moment.
665
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,080
But I understand why this is done.
666
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,000
- Hi, Raphael.
- Don't talk to me.
667
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,760
I don't want to know. Fuck off!
668
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,360
If you don't listen to me,
we have to come in and get you.
669
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,200
I don't care what you have to do.
You do what you have to fucking do.
670
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,856
- It'll be worse for you.
- I don't care.
671
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,560
- If you come in here...
- Okay.
672
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,440
- I'm going to smash you up, too.
- Okay.
673
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,520
So, piss off.
674
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,600
Check.
675
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,080
Go away. I don't want you in here.
Get out.
676
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,160
No, no, no! Get off me, you bastards!
Get off!
677
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:42,800
Give him your hand.
678
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:51,000
One, two, three.
679
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,360
Cell extraction is a key weapon
680
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,520
in the guards' ability
to maintain control.
681
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,760
Two, three.
682
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,520
The prison's tunnel system
means volatile prisoners can be extracted
683
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,400
without disturbing the illusion
of normality for the rest of the inmates.
684
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,520
We are going
to take off your handcuffs.
685
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Okay.
686
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,280
- And you are going to be still.
- Yeah.
687
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,040
That was rough.
688
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,320
That was fucking rough.
689
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,160
This tiny space is used to
contain aggressive and unruly prisoners.
690
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,960
They were in total control.
691
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400
And there were two things
going through my mind:
692
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,080
one, the only thing I could do
was breathe,
693
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,840
and, two, not to remember
the real life experience that I've had
694
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,160
of being extracted from a cell
by prison officers.
695
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,560
I really do understand,
696
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,520
as a mature man
and no longer a young volatile prisoner,
697
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,240
why this is necessary.
698
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Um...
699
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,200
But I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
700
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,200
If inmates continue
to harm themselves,
701
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,080
they can be totally restrained,
as a last resort.
702
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,160
But they've only done this once
in the last eight years.
703
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,680
Rather than allowing their emotions
to boil over,
704
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,840
prisoners here are encouraged
to talk about how they are feeling.
705
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,680
But the topic today
continues from what we had last time.
706
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,960
Not everyone was here.
707
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,080
No, what did we have?
708
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:50,600
We had a lot of stuff.
709
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,200
To address criminal behavior
and drug addiction,
710
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,360
inmates attend regular therapy sessions.
711
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,880
To begin with,
712
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,056
on Wednesday, we talked
about all the different things
713
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
that can influence
criminal actions and drug abuse.
714
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:10,560
If it is nature, nurture, our childhood,
mental disorders, diagnoses, addiction,
715
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,240
and to look at drug abuse
as a dependence syndrome.
716
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,840
Conducting today's meeting
is prison guard Linn.
717
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In Norway, officers spend two years
718
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studying conflict management, psychology,
719
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criminology, law, social work, and ethics.
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And what do you hope to achieve?
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What do they hope to achieve
from these sessions?
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I want them to speak up and share.
723
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"Who am I? And who can I blame
for these problems?"
724
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Some of them do actually say that.
725
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The first time,
I can blame it on my father, maybe,
726
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or my environment.
727
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But the ten... Next time, it's myself.
728
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They start
to accept responsibility.
729
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I can only blame myself. Yeah.
730
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So, I want them to see the difference
between being a victim,
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from the system, or their family,
or the environment or anything,
732
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and to be an actor in their own life.
733
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After the session, I catch up
with persistent offender Christian,
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who's about to be released.
735
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You've got three days left.
Then you're out, yourself.
736
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How will you cope on the outside?
737
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Before, when I'm being released,
738
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I liked to say that my crowbar
and my syringes,
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they are just where I left it,
so I just pick it up and start again,
740
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but this time is different.
741
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For the first time,
I actually feel kind of scared.
742
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And this is a new feeling for me.
I usually don't get scared, but...
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it's like, "What to do now?
What to do now?"
744
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Well, let me say good luck for the future.
Good luck.
745
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It was nice meeting you, Christian.
Good luck.
746
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This prison is so alien
747
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to anything I have experienced
in the past:
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the therapy, the close interpersonal
relationships with the guards,
749
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the structured routines,
the work, and the feeling of normality.
750
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Every aspect of the facility
is carefully designed
751
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to change and reeducate
even the toughest criminals.
752
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This humane philosophy is championed
by the prison's governor, Are Høidal.
753
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What's the purpose
of this maximum security prison?
754
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The point
of prison is that when you commit a crime,
755
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you should be punished for it.
756
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It should feel
that you have done something illegal.
757
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But the punishment should be...
It should work.
758
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The idea of punishment in Norway
is to learn from your punishment,
759
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but also to use the time
you have in prison
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to help deal with life in a better way
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than you did
before you ended up in prison.
762
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Hopefully,
after two years inside,
763
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it's a lesson
Christian has finally learned.
764
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If Halden's radical regime
is successful for him,
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only time will tell.
766
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So, what does your dad say, then?
767
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I think he's glad
I'm coming home.
768
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We've had a different relationship
since Mom died.
769
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But I haven't had a chance
to speak to him much.
770
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Isn't the whole idea
of imprisoning someone
771
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is that they know
the pain of where they are,
772
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as a form of retribution
for the crime they committed?
773
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Within this prison,
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there is supposed
to be a miniature society,
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where inmates lead normal lives,
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as normal as possible,
like the life out there.
777
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And that is very important,
considering them reentering society.
778
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Well, I guess this is goodbye.
779
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All the best of luck. Don't cry now.
780
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No, I'll cry when I get inside.
781
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Thanks for everything.
782
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Yeah, thanks for everything.
783
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- Good luck.
- Bye, Charlotte. Bye.
784
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I'm a free man.
I'm a free man.
785
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And there's my father down there.
786
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Does prison work?
787
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In Norway, we have got good results.
788
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Thirty years back,
we had a recidivism rate of 70%.
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Now, recidivism in Norway
is at around 20 to 30%,
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which means that the way we work now
creates results.
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I have some tools now
to help me carry on with my life,
792
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and, hopefully, everything will be okay.
793
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It's up to me now.
It's nothing to do with hope, actually.
794
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It up to me now. That's it.
795
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My time in Halden Prison is up,
and I can honestly say
796
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it is the cleanest and most humane,
visionary prison I've ever seen.
797
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Their focus is 100%
on rehabilitating prisoners
798
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to make them into the neighbors
you and I would want to live next to.
799
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Halden isn't the world's toughest prison,
but it does have the toughest job.
800
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Here, criminals aren't just wrongdoers
who need to be locked up and punished,
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but broken people who can be fixed.
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