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Hey, Siri.
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Send a message to Cheryl.
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Front reception.
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What do you want to say?
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Amos is already heading
there to pick him up, period.
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady, period.
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Your message to
Cheryl front reception
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says Amos is already heading
there to pick him up.
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady.
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Ready to send it?
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Yes.
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Okay, it's sent.
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Hey, Siri.
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How do you know if you're
doing the right thing?
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I'm not sure I understand.
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But what do you believe
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is the difference between
right and wrong?
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Hmm.
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I don't have an answer for that.
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Would you like me to
search the web?
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No.
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Okay, is there
something else I can help with?
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Set a reminder to pick up Kyle
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from therapy tomorrow at 4:45.
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Okay, I'll remind you.
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Hi, special agent Deena Helms.
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You've already met
Agent McCullough.
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You can call me Amos.
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- Uh, agents?
- Have a seat for us, Gareth.
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Do you mind answering a
couple questions?
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Great, this shouldn't take long.
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You're from Tampa, right?
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Don't overthink it.
It's a yes or no.
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Yeah.
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How old are you, Gareth?
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29.
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What do you do for work?
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I'm sorry, am I being detained?
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No, not at all.
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We're just asking
questions, background stuff.
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You work on movies, right?
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Special effects.
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Someone told me you worked
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on that new "Star Wars"
movie, is that right?
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Who told you that?
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Why don't you tell us
more about it?
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Tell us about your work.
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I used to do VFX for an
animation company.
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I've worked on at least
20 different films.
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Used to?
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I've been focusing more
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on software engineering
recently for years-
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Sounds boring compared
to light sabers.
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Why quit?
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I wasn't getting paid well.
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But money's not an
issue for you.
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Excuse me?
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What kind of effects did you do?
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Money's not an issue for me?
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-Let's talk about-
-If money wasn't an issue for me
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I wouldn't have applied
for your grant.
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I didn't mean to
suggest anything.
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Tell us what kind of
effects you did.
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My main focus was on
3D renderings.
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Of what?
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- Actors.
- What for?
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Well, for "Star Wars,"
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it was because the actor
I was tasked to digitize
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was unavailable to be
filmed in person.
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Why?
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Because they were dead.
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What'd they have you do?
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I reconstructed Alec
Guinness' face as a 3D model.
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I analyzed reference footage,
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then used a process called
D-Term to procedurally generate
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his bone and muscle structures,
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which one rigged helped
the animation feel
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more natural and human-like.
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D-Term, I've never heard
of that process before.
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Because I invented it.
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So you're basically bringing
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dead actors back to life?
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I just tried to make
the CG characters look as
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photorealistic as the technology
at the time would allow.
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You didn't find it creepy?
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I'm sorry, what?
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I said you don't find
that creepy?
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Well, we did our best to
cross the uncanny valley.
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But when the human
brain perceives
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that something is just slightly
off and it doesn't matter-
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No, I mean,
digitizing dead people.
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Christ, I mean, it's,
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it's almost like turning
someone's corpse
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into a marionette, you know?
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Making them do
whatever you want.
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What if the poor dead guy
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didn't want to be in
another fucking movie?
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It's so macabre.
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Am I crazy? Is it not macabre?
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I don't think the studio cares
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whether it's macabre or not.
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Look, I can never tell
the difference.
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I always can.
The faces look like Play-Doh.
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Well, we did our best.
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Soon we won't even need actors,
right?
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Everyone will just be digital.
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No, you still need them
for motion tracking.
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Human performances can't be
completely computer generated.
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How long will that be true?
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Some might say we've already
crossed that threshold.
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I wouldn't know.
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Where'd you go to school?
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- Brooks-DeBartolo High.
- And after?
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Nothing?
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What about Columbia?
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Didn't you go to Columbia?
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Wait, no.
You dropped out of Columbia
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after how many semesters?
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Three?
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Bjarne Stroustrup said
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you were the smartest
kid he ever met.
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I don't know who he is, but
Amos says it's a big deal.
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Then you moved to the
Netherlands,
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spent some time as an intern,
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applied and got into Cambridge.
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Very nice.
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Except that you dropped
out after two years.
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Flew back to the States,
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interned in Palo Alto,
then Montreal.
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Then went all the way
back to England,
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where you landed a job
in Sheffield.
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Second job in Manchester.
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Then got into Oxford where you
almost finished your masters
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before ditching the graduation
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and moving back here to Florida.
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If money was an issue,
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I'm glad you had plenty
of flyer miles.
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I didn't hear a question.
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What's your social life like?
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My, what does that have
anything to do-
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If you don't want to talk
about it, that's fine.
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We just wanted to know if
you have friends and stuff.
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- I have friends.
- A lot of them?
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- I have friends.
- Can you name one?
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- Can I what?
- Can you tell us the nam
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of just one of your friends?
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- Steve.
- Steve. Steve what?
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I don't know how this is
relevant to receiving the grant.
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Oh, we're just getting
to know you, Gareth.
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You got a girlfriend?
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Boyfriend?
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You, uh, talk to people online?
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I don't know what you
mean by that.
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I don't use social media.
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I mean more like chat rooms.
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You go on any chat rooms?
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No one uses chat rooms anymore.
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Sure they do.
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You chat with anyone online?
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- Sometimes.
- Sometimes.
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What kinds of people
do you talk to online?
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Gareth, obviously, this
isn't about a grant.
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We need to know
what your alias is.
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When you go online, what
name do you use?
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I don't have one.
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Yes, you do.
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And you need to tell
us what it is.
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Sorry, I can't help you.
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You know who we are?
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Well, this is the ICWL building.
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That's right.
You know what we do?
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Humanitarian work.
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That's what the
people upstairs do.
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You know what we do?
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We catch pedophiles.
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Amos here specializes in
tracking down online predators.
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He spends every waking hour
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scouring those chat
rooms you say no one uses
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and he finds thousands of
people soliciting children.
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Our operation is like a
tightly spun spider web
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connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA,
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and let me tell you, his
team here is a vital thread.
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He reports everything he
gathers directly to me,
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and I see to it that the
necessary authorities
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take swift action.
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So are you in charge?
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This is my spiderweb.
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I'm the fucking spider, Gareth.
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Am I being detained?
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We already told you
that you're not detained.
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Good.
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But if you leave this
room, you will be arrested.
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For what?
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I told you what we do.
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Take a wild guess.
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I am not what you think I am.
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We'll see.
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Gareth, you just gotta
tell us your alias.
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What's your username?
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Sit down.
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- Why do you do this with them?
- Hmm?
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There's no way you do this
with every suspect you have.
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Invite them to your headquarters
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and then drag them down
into a basement.
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That's right.
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Why are you doing
this to me then?
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You tell us, Gare.
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What makes you so fuckin'
special?
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I don't know.
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What's your alias?
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- I don't have an alias.
- Yes you do.
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It starts with the word hard.
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Just finish the rest.
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Sit down, Mr. Federson.
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I only have a few
more questions.
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Do you recognize this girl?
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Do you know her?
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Yes.
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What's her name?
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Cherry.
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- Cherry what?
- She doesn't have a last name.
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Yes, she does, Gareth,
she's not Madonna.
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- She's a little girl.
- You don't understand.
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Yeah, well, I'd like to.
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So help me out, is she
your daughter?
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- No.
- Then whose daughter is she?
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- She, she doesn't have...
- How did you meet her?
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I didn't meet her.
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Then why do you have photos
of her on your computer?
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What the hell are you
talking about?
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Why do you fucking have photos
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of this girl on your fucking-
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Are you looking at
my hard drive?
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Because that's an
invasion of privacy.
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So you know what photos
I'm talking about?
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You don't have to do
it this way.
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I gave you permission to sit in.
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I did not give you
permission to speak.
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This is insane, you cannot keep-
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What else have you
done with her?
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- Nothing!
- Did you take the photos?
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It's, it's complicated.
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No, it's not! Yes or no?
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Did you take the photos?
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I didn't do anything wrong,
okay?
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Soliciting pornography of
minors is an egregious felony.
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Distributing that
pornography is tenfold worse.
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- I didn't do anything!
- Fucking prove it!
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What is your alias?
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Answer me!
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HardMachine11811.
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You're HardMachine.
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Thanks for confirming.
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If you knew, then why
do this to me?
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We weren't positive,
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and if you turned out
to not be HardMachine,
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you were obviously
just a predator.
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Do you keep track?
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I mean, do you know how many
bad people you've nailed?
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I didn't start
counting until 2023.
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196 convictions.
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There were at least 30
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before I started sending
everything to you guys.
264
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What'd you do before?
265
00:12:33,984 --> 00:12:34,827
I turned over
266
00:12:34,851 --> 00:12:36,295
all evidence directly
to the police.
267
00:12:36,319 --> 00:12:37,463
Why'd you stop?
268
00:12:37,487 --> 00:12:39,331
They were unreliable.
269
00:12:39,355 --> 00:12:40,866
- I doubt that.
- More than half of the predators
270
00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:42,368
I identified went
un-investigated.
271
00:12:42,392 --> 00:12:43,869
Yeah, well, you were
sketchy and faceless.
272
00:12:43,893 --> 00:12:46,271
They had every right to
be skeptical.
273
00:12:46,295 --> 00:12:47,439
It would've all been for nothing
274
00:12:47,463 --> 00:12:49,274
if they found out you were
using a little girl as bait.
275
00:12:49,298 --> 00:12:50,209
It's not that simple, okay?
276
00:12:50,233 --> 00:12:52,946
I can only do what I do
with anonymity.
277
00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:54,948
Here's my problem, Gareth,
and don't get me wrong.
278
00:12:54,972 --> 00:12:56,749
I think 200 terrible
people behind bars
279
00:12:56,773 --> 00:12:59,752
is a very good thing,
but not at her expense.
280
00:12:59,776 --> 00:13:01,888
Look, we think we can help you,
281
00:13:01,912 --> 00:13:03,489
but we need to help her too.
282
00:13:03,513 --> 00:13:06,725
Using your daughter to
entrap these people
283
00:13:06,749 --> 00:13:07,826
is a means that does not
justify the ends.
284
00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:08,895
She's not my daughter.
285
00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:09,963
And in spite of what you
may think you've achieved,
286
00:13:09,987 --> 00:13:11,797
I still have no reservation
with locking you up.
287
00:13:11,821 --> 00:13:13,332
You took the photos.
288
00:13:13,356 --> 00:13:14,500
I don't care why.
289
00:13:14,524 --> 00:13:16,335
You don't understand.
290
00:13:16,359 --> 00:13:17,436
Who is she?
291
00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,972
You're gonna ruin everything.
292
00:13:18,996 --> 00:13:22,764
She's a child, Gareth,
look at me.
293
00:13:23,599 --> 00:13:26,980
I don't give a damn what
fucked up anti-hero master plan
294
00:13:27,004 --> 00:13:28,614
of yours I might jeopardize.
295
00:13:28,638 --> 00:13:30,349
I won't let her be exploited.
296
00:13:30,373 --> 00:13:32,942
Not even for the sake of
locking up more perverts.
297
00:13:33,576 --> 00:13:36,588
I'm asking you politely
to let this one go.
298
00:13:36,612 --> 00:13:38,257
Are you fucking slow?
299
00:13:38,281 --> 00:13:39,159
Have you been listening at all?
300
00:13:39,183 --> 00:13:41,827
My anonymity is my most
important asset.
301
00:13:41,851 --> 00:13:43,562
Without that, I can't
do what I do.
302
00:13:43,586 --> 00:13:46,254
Well, that makes
everything easy then.
303
00:13:46,656 --> 00:13:48,834
You tell us where she is,
or we leak everything.
304
00:13:48,858 --> 00:13:50,469
- Your name, your aliases.
- Deena!
305
00:13:50,493 --> 00:13:52,538
Every single perp you
helped us catch.
306
00:13:52,562 --> 00:13:54,473
I'm sure they'll be very
pleased to meet you in jail.
307
00:13:54,497 --> 00:13:55,641
Stop!
308
00:13:55,665 --> 00:13:57,432
Okay.
309
00:14:00,003 --> 00:14:01,915
Look, if I tell you
about Cherry, okay,
310
00:14:01,939 --> 00:14:04,406
there's some things I'm
gonna need first.
311
00:14:04,607 --> 00:14:06,518
It doesn't really work like
that, Gareth, but go ahead.
312
00:14:06,542 --> 00:14:07,753
Give us your wishlist.
313
00:14:07,777 --> 00:14:09,621
I need a signed non-disclosure
agreement from both of you.
314
00:14:09,645 --> 00:14:10,856
- Not gonna happen.
- And then I need you to swear
315
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,991
that the information I'm
about to relay
316
00:14:12,015 --> 00:14:13,492
won't leave this room.
317
00:14:13,516 --> 00:14:14,793
Look, if you tell us anything
318
00:14:14,817 --> 00:14:15,929
that could help us
locate Cherry,
319
00:14:15,953 --> 00:14:18,820
you know we can't keep
that promise.
320
00:14:19,622 --> 00:14:21,300
Okay, if I tell you anything
321
00:14:21,324 --> 00:14:23,937
that potentially helps
you find a missing child,
322
00:14:23,961 --> 00:14:24,971
okay, you can feel free
to share that.
323
00:14:24,995 --> 00:14:25,939
But I need you to swear
324
00:14:25,963 --> 00:14:29,731
that any other details
about myself or Cherry,
325
00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:32,467
have to stay between
the three of us.
326
00:14:33,669 --> 00:14:35,504
Is that it?
327
00:14:36,907 --> 00:14:38,941
And I need that camera
switched off.
328
00:14:40,077 --> 00:14:41,353
I don't know how to do that.
329
00:14:41,377 --> 00:14:42,588
Go to the head of
securities office,
330
00:14:42,612 --> 00:14:44,991
ask him to find this camera
in the system and disable it.
331
00:14:45,015 --> 00:14:47,315
I don't think he's
allowed to do that.
332
00:14:47,717 --> 00:14:49,851
I thought you were the
fucking spider?
333
00:14:53,523 --> 00:14:54,833
Give me a reason, Gareth.
334
00:14:54,857 --> 00:14:55,969
Why should I go through
all the trouble
335
00:14:55,993 --> 00:14:58,326
of getting that
camera turned off?
336
00:14:59,029 --> 00:15:01,998
Because if anybody finds out
what I'm about to tell you,
337
00:15:02,933 --> 00:15:05,801
a thousand more children
are gonna get abused.
338
00:15:08,838 --> 00:15:10,672
Give me a minute.
339
00:15:25,388 --> 00:15:31,693
So, uh, you and Cherry hunted
all those people together?
340
00:15:38,168 --> 00:15:41,147
This one time I spent six
weeks undercover trying
341
00:15:41,171 --> 00:15:44,539
to nail down a single
trafficker from the Philippines.
342
00:15:45,441 --> 00:15:46,552
Day after day,
343
00:15:46,576 --> 00:15:49,923
I spent hour after hour
following his trail online.
344
00:15:49,947 --> 00:15:51,057
And he must have been
345
00:15:51,081 --> 00:15:54,349
one of the hardest targets
I ever had to track down.
346
00:15:56,186 --> 00:16:01,567
Then one day I found him and
one of Cherry's live streams.
347
00:16:01,591 --> 00:16:03,468
I mean, she went by a
different name in the stream,
348
00:16:03,492 --> 00:16:05,894
but it was her.
349
00:16:06,429 --> 00:16:07,539
The trafficker,
350
00:16:07,563 --> 00:16:08,807
along with three of our
other targets
351
00:16:08,831 --> 00:16:10,843
were all in the room together.
352
00:16:10,867 --> 00:16:17,472
All of them just carelessly
sharing their information.
353
00:16:18,008 --> 00:16:23,022
I mean, and they were so open
'cause she was a real girl.
354
00:16:23,046 --> 00:16:24,790
I mean, she could physically
355
00:16:24,814 --> 00:16:27,950
and verbally respond to
them in real time.
356
00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:36,435
A couple days later,
HardMachine11811 sends ICWL
357
00:16:36,459 --> 00:16:38,104
another batch of names
and evidence,
358
00:16:38,128 --> 00:16:42,397
including the three targets
that were in the room.
359
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,913
You know, I almost thought
the girl was HardMachine
360
00:16:46,937 --> 00:16:48,680
and that this nine year old
361
00:16:48,704 --> 00:16:52,942
just happened to be some
badass online vigilante.
362
00:16:54,543 --> 00:16:56,645
What changed your mind?
363
00:16:59,149 --> 00:17:01,683
11811.
364
00:17:01,985 --> 00:17:05,631
January 18th, 2011.
365
00:17:05,655 --> 00:17:10,525
Most of my team thought it
was, uh, some arbitrary number,
366
00:17:10,928 --> 00:17:15,497
but I remember what happened
on that day in Clearwater.
367
00:17:17,533 --> 00:17:20,435
You were one of the
Clearwater kids, weren't you?
368
00:17:21,004 --> 00:17:24,039
You know, my father was
a part of that raid.
369
00:17:26,776 --> 00:17:27,819
It's off, see?
370
00:17:27,843 --> 00:17:29,222
No red light.
371
00:17:29,246 --> 00:17:30,089
Non-disclosure agreements?
372
00:17:30,113 --> 00:17:31,190
We're not playing this game,
Gareth.
373
00:17:31,214 --> 00:17:34,216
You're just gonna have to
suck it up and trust us.
374
00:17:37,921 --> 00:17:40,588
You can trust us.
375
00:17:42,591 --> 00:17:44,103
I've been told I have
trust issues.
376
00:17:44,127 --> 00:17:46,996
Well, there's
only one way to fix that.
377
00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:57,649
The reason you can't
find Cherry,
378
00:17:57,673 --> 00:18:00,786
the reason why she doesn't
have a last name or parents,
379
00:18:00,810 --> 00:18:06,581
or a social security number
is because she's not real.
380
00:18:07,683 --> 00:18:09,884
She's not a real human being.
381
00:18:13,023 --> 00:18:15,024
Tell us what happened.
382
00:18:18,594 --> 00:18:20,073
While I was studying abroad,
383
00:18:20,097 --> 00:18:22,808
I interned at a small
Dutch animation studio
384
00:18:22,832 --> 00:18:24,177
a few years before
they collaborated
385
00:18:24,201 --> 00:18:26,712
with a local nonprofit on
a similar idea.
386
00:18:26,736 --> 00:18:28,270
Which was?
387
00:18:28,771 --> 00:18:30,316
The idea was to build a 3D model
388
00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:32,185
of an 11 year old Filipino girl
389
00:18:32,209 --> 00:18:35,121
and use her covertly to
identify online predators,
390
00:18:35,145 --> 00:18:38,091
A technological solution
to a technological problem.
391
00:18:38,115 --> 00:18:39,959
But the project was suspended
after only a few months.
392
00:18:39,983 --> 00:18:40,859
Yeah, I remember.
393
00:18:40,883 --> 00:18:42,895
I remember hearing
about that program.
394
00:18:42,919 --> 00:18:44,920
Is that what inspired you?
395
00:18:45,022 --> 00:18:46,265
As I got better at crafting
photorealistic faces,
396
00:18:46,289 --> 00:18:47,900
I decided to work on one myself.
397
00:18:47,924 --> 00:18:49,701
Why?
398
00:18:49,725 --> 00:18:52,105
It was too effective
of an idea to let die.
399
00:18:52,129 --> 00:18:54,573
Hundreds of thousands
of children are at risk.
400
00:18:54,597 --> 00:18:55,607
I had to make her.
401
00:18:55,631 --> 00:18:56,909
Who is she modeled after?
402
00:18:56,933 --> 00:18:58,011
No one, I built
her from scratch.
403
00:18:58,035 --> 00:18:59,145
Scratch?
404
00:18:59,169 --> 00:19:01,680
I started with a skull,
designed her bone structure,
405
00:19:01,704 --> 00:19:03,249
worked upwards through
muscles and tissue,
406
00:19:03,273 --> 00:19:05,151
used the D-Term program to
fill in the rest procedurally.
407
00:19:05,175 --> 00:19:08,988
Eventually she came to
look like that.
408
00:19:09,012 --> 00:19:11,656
A completely unique,
completely digital model.
409
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,824
I rigged her face and body
410
00:19:12,848 --> 00:19:13,825
the way you would for
any CG character.
411
00:19:13,849 --> 00:19:15,985
Then for three years,
412
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,220
I used motion tracking to
puppeteer her in real time.
413
00:19:18,455 --> 00:19:18,998
You gotta understand that the
video chats on those sites
414
00:19:19,022 --> 00:19:19,999
have such low resolution
415
00:19:20,023 --> 00:19:22,768
that even in her earliest
stage of this, she,
416
00:19:22,792 --> 00:19:26,661
we appeared
completely authentic.
417
00:19:26,963 --> 00:19:28,964
And what about voice?
418
00:19:28,999 --> 00:19:30,209
For most of her first
year, she had to be mute.
419
00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:32,378
But eventually I found a decent
voice filter with no lag.
420
00:19:32,402 --> 00:19:33,880
And after a few tweaks
and adjustments,
421
00:19:33,904 --> 00:19:36,115
it's been the same
voice ever since.
422
00:19:36,139 --> 00:19:38,051
I, I, I thought initially,
423
00:19:38,075 --> 00:19:40,219
my performance was going
to be too unnatural.
424
00:19:40,243 --> 00:19:45,058
But with just one week of
occasional video chat sessions,
425
00:19:45,082 --> 00:19:47,026
I secured six different names,
426
00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:49,851
mailing addresses,
proofs of solicitations.
427
00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:51,197
Cherry worked.
428
00:19:51,221 --> 00:19:53,066
So the photos on your computer?
429
00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:55,034
- Completely fake.
- It was the only way
430
00:19:55,058 --> 00:19:56,135
some of them disclosed
personal information.
431
00:19:56,159 --> 00:19:59,005
But it was all zeros and
ones, all digital, right?
432
00:19:59,029 --> 00:20:01,007
- There's no real child.
- No real child.
433
00:20:01,031 --> 00:20:02,942
Just a highly detailed
computer model.
434
00:20:02,966 --> 00:20:05,011
And let me be clear
about something,
435
00:20:05,035 --> 00:20:05,811
I derive no pleasure
from doing any of this.
436
00:20:05,835 --> 00:20:07,813
I've been asexual my
entire life.
437
00:20:07,837 --> 00:20:09,681
I, I don't even get a
sense of satisfaction
438
00:20:09,705 --> 00:20:11,840
from seeing these
people locked up.
439
00:20:12,242 --> 00:20:15,777
I just think kids deserve a
life free of exploitation.
440
00:20:16,446 --> 00:20:20,382
Incredible, all this time.
441
00:20:20,417 --> 00:20:21,860
I'm not gonna lie, Gareth.
442
00:20:21,884 --> 00:20:24,220
Cherry's done us a lot of good.
443
00:20:24,787 --> 00:20:26,032
You know, I still remember
what you said to me
444
00:20:26,056 --> 00:20:28,157
the first time we corresponded.
445
00:20:28,258 --> 00:20:30,735
-You said-
-We corresponded?
446
00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:32,138
Yeah, man.
447
00:20:32,162 --> 00:20:34,029
I'm Gord51.
448
00:20:34,197 --> 00:20:36,898
I'm the one here you've been
sending all your intel to.
449
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,145
You're Gord?
450
00:20:39,169 --> 00:20:41,203
Yeah.
451
00:20:42,405 --> 00:20:44,140
You lied to me.
452
00:20:44,341 --> 00:20:46,285
You said I could stay anonymous.
453
00:20:46,309 --> 00:20:48,911
You said I would be safe.
454
00:20:49,712 --> 00:20:51,779
Now you've ruined everything.
455
00:20:51,948 --> 00:20:53,292
I, I didn't, I didn't
have a choice.
456
00:20:53,316 --> 00:20:54,693
You don't have to worry
about anything, Gareth.
457
00:20:54,717 --> 00:20:55,794
If Cherry isn't real,
458
00:20:55,818 --> 00:20:58,087
then you're not in any
trouble with us.
459
00:20:58,321 --> 00:21:01,134
In fact, we've discussed ideas
similar to this in the past,
460
00:21:01,158 --> 00:21:02,135
motion tracking and such.
461
00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,937
But we'd need a convincing
model like Cherry.
462
00:21:04,961 --> 00:21:05,770
Cherry's more than a model.
463
00:21:05,794 --> 00:21:07,240
You want to help children?
So do we.
464
00:21:07,264 --> 00:21:08,374
She's not for sale.
465
00:21:08,398 --> 00:21:10,176
Well, then just make us a
new model based off of her.
466
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,344
I can't.
467
00:21:11,368 --> 00:21:12,345
Sure you can.
468
00:21:12,369 --> 00:21:14,203
I won't.
469
00:21:16,439 --> 00:21:18,407
What are you not telling us?
470
00:21:20,110 --> 00:21:21,254
It's out on the table now.
471
00:21:21,278 --> 00:21:24,313
Might as well spill whatever
it is you haven't already.
472
00:21:28,985 --> 00:21:31,853
You know what
doesn't make sense?
473
00:21:32,322 --> 00:21:35,501
You said that you puppeteered
her for only three years,
474
00:21:35,525 --> 00:21:38,860
but we've been getting
info from you ever since.
475
00:21:39,462 --> 00:21:41,140
In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was around then
476
00:21:41,164 --> 00:21:45,201
that we started seeing an
impressive increase of names.
477
00:21:45,435 --> 00:21:48,270
So many in fact that we
started thinking
478
00:21:48,804 --> 00:21:50,849
there's no way this is all
coming from one source.
479
00:21:50,873 --> 00:21:52,351
I have friends that do
mo-cap for me.
480
00:21:52,375 --> 00:21:55,911
Oh, friends, like Steve?
481
00:21:56,179 --> 00:21:58,880
I thought anonymity was
your greatest asset.
482
00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:03,185
Cut the bullshit, Gareth.
483
00:22:03,886 --> 00:22:06,222
What happened to Cherry
after three years?
484
00:22:12,095 --> 00:22:16,042
Okay, you said that she
was more than a model.
485
00:22:16,066 --> 00:22:19,512
So what is she some type
of conversational agent?
486
00:22:19,536 --> 00:22:22,048
Like a, like a chat bot?
487
00:22:22,072 --> 00:22:26,408
Chat bot.
488
00:22:30,146 --> 00:22:32,425
You know what happened
after three years?
489
00:22:32,449 --> 00:22:34,393
My chosen mother died.
490
00:22:34,417 --> 00:22:35,328
What she left behind was
enough to quit my job
491
00:22:35,352 --> 00:22:38,164
and pursue more
resources and software.
492
00:22:38,188 --> 00:22:39,098
I'd already made a program
493
00:22:39,122 --> 00:22:40,199
that could procedurally
generate faces,
494
00:22:40,223 --> 00:22:42,435
but what I wanted for
Cherry was far more complex.
495
00:22:42,459 --> 00:22:44,403
So I got in touch with
some researchers
496
00:22:44,427 --> 00:22:45,471
from Madrid who'd already built
497
00:22:45,495 --> 00:22:47,839
a predator hunting dialogue
system of their own.
498
00:22:47,863 --> 00:22:50,142
It was trained to approach
conversations as a game.
499
00:22:50,166 --> 00:22:51,876
Each sentence like a
strategic volley,
500
00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,246
which is innovative but
ultimately flawed.
501
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:54,947
If you want your machine
to master NLP,
502
00:22:54,971 --> 00:22:55,747
you have to break
down game theory
503
00:22:55,771 --> 00:22:57,416
because language
isn't tic-tac-toe.
504
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,517
It's poetry.
505
00:22:58,541 --> 00:23:00,019
So yes, I got things started
506
00:23:00,043 --> 00:23:01,287
with a preexisting
modified chat bot
507
00:23:01,311 --> 00:23:02,388
that I borrowed
without permission
508
00:23:02,412 --> 00:23:04,413
from the University of Deusto.
509
00:23:09,052 --> 00:23:11,754
But that's not what
Cherry is now.
510
00:23:14,291 --> 00:23:15,958
What is she, Gareth?
511
00:23:18,395 --> 00:23:19,572
She's one of the most complex
512
00:23:19,596 --> 00:23:23,009
and independently evolving
AIs that's ever been created.
513
00:23:23,033 --> 00:23:24,010
Artificial intelligence?
514
00:23:24,034 --> 00:23:25,911
She's already surpassed
the narrow intelligence
515
00:23:25,935 --> 00:23:28,014
of IBM's smartest programs.
516
00:23:28,038 --> 00:23:31,217
She can have full conversations,
up to 10 of them at a time,
517
00:23:31,241 --> 00:23:33,252
all while
simultaneously strategizing
518
00:23:33,276 --> 00:23:36,322
the most efficient schedule
to visit various chat rooms.
519
00:23:36,346 --> 00:23:38,924
She's perpetually studying
YouTube videos of small children
520
00:23:38,948 --> 00:23:40,426
in order to adopt a
growing library
521
00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:42,484
of mannerisms and movements
522
00:23:42,552 --> 00:23:44,863
which help keep her artificial
personality dynamic.
523
00:23:44,887 --> 00:23:46,265
Her fastest response time
is 0.4 seconds.
524
00:23:46,289 --> 00:23:47,633
And as of now, she has never,
525
00:23:47,657 --> 00:23:49,268
never been accused
of being fake,
526
00:23:49,292 --> 00:23:51,003
which means she shattered
the Turing test.
527
00:23:51,027 --> 00:23:52,471
All I do is
occasionally update her
528
00:23:52,495 --> 00:23:53,872
and periodically check
her data cleaning.
529
00:23:53,896 --> 00:23:55,531
Otherwise,
530
00:23:56,633 --> 00:23:59,068
she's completely on autopilot.
531
00:24:03,139 --> 00:24:05,441
Holy fucking shit.
532
00:24:08,978 --> 00:24:10,089
- How?
- Six years she's been active.
533
00:24:10,113 --> 00:24:12,091
Every minute she's online,
she's learning something.
534
00:24:12,115 --> 00:24:14,493
The more she learns, the
more advanced she becomes.
535
00:24:14,517 --> 00:24:15,661
This means increased
data generation,
536
00:24:15,685 --> 00:24:16,929
improved decision making,
537
00:24:16,953 --> 00:24:18,197
faster pattern and
trend detection
538
00:24:18,221 --> 00:24:19,332
and complex problem solving.
539
00:24:19,356 --> 00:24:22,535
NLP, IR, machine learning
to an unprecedented degree.
540
00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:23,602
She can teach herself anything
541
00:24:23,626 --> 00:24:25,404
she thinks will help
efficiency and authenticity.
542
00:24:25,428 --> 00:24:27,963
She can currently speak
four languages
543
00:24:28,231 --> 00:24:29,075
and by the end of this month,
she'll have mastered a fifth.
544
00:24:29,099 --> 00:24:30,476
There's no way you
could have pulled
545
00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:32,501
all this off on your own.
546
00:24:35,472 --> 00:24:37,306
You're right.
547
00:24:38,441 --> 00:24:39,552
Would you believe me
if I told you
548
00:24:39,576 --> 00:24:43,512
it was somewhat of an accident?
549
00:24:44,581 --> 00:24:47,216
Look, if, if I'm being honest,
550
00:24:47,617 --> 00:24:50,185
I'm not entirely sure
how I did it
551
00:24:50,653 --> 00:24:52,031
with the first year of coding
552
00:24:52,055 --> 00:24:54,189
and the second year of
data training,
553
00:24:54,257 --> 00:24:57,069
I just pushed a wheel
down a hill.
554
00:24:57,093 --> 00:24:59,628
It was like gravity
did the rest.
555
00:24:59,662 --> 00:25:04,600
Her evolution became
perpetual, exponentially so.
556
00:25:06,002 --> 00:25:09,415
The more time she was
online, the faster she grew.
557
00:25:09,439 --> 00:25:10,983
You haven't shared
this with anyone?
558
00:25:11,007 --> 00:25:15,110
Like I said, my anonymity
is everything.
559
00:25:16,746 --> 00:25:18,624
What coding language?
560
00:25:18,648 --> 00:25:20,159
Standard C++.
561
00:25:20,183 --> 00:25:21,984
Does Brady know it?
562
00:25:24,287 --> 00:25:26,588
We'll sign
non-disclosures for you,
563
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:28,300
but I want to see the
source code first.
564
00:25:28,324 --> 00:25:30,102
Out of the question.
You just want to steal her.
565
00:25:30,126 --> 00:25:32,204
No, I want to see how we
can make our own.
566
00:25:32,228 --> 00:25:33,205
You'll screw it up.
567
00:25:33,229 --> 00:25:34,974
Look, these, these
predators and traffickers,
568
00:25:34,998 --> 00:25:36,142
they all talk to each other,
okay?
569
00:25:36,166 --> 00:25:38,411
So much of Cherry's process
is just bypassing the VPNs
570
00:25:38,435 --> 00:25:40,546
and making sure she doesn't
double up in the same circles.
571
00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:42,081
The chat rooms begin to suspect
572
00:25:42,105 --> 00:25:43,449
that this technology is
even possible,
573
00:25:43,473 --> 00:25:44,550
they'll find a way to
circumvent that.
574
00:25:44,574 --> 00:25:46,051
We have to eliminate any
margin of error.
575
00:25:46,075 --> 00:25:47,386
- Cherry agrees with me.
- Cherry agrees?
576
00:25:47,410 --> 00:25:48,487
What the fuck does that-
577
00:25:48,511 --> 00:25:50,289
What I mean by that is that
the data she's collected
578
00:25:50,313 --> 00:25:51,290
validates that perspective.
579
00:25:51,314 --> 00:25:52,625
What, do you have little
chats with her over tea?
580
00:25:52,649 --> 00:25:54,627
You can converse
with the program
581
00:25:54,651 --> 00:25:56,328
the same way you can
talk to Alexa or Siri.
582
00:25:56,352 --> 00:25:57,463
It's built to be responsive.
583
00:25:57,487 --> 00:25:59,298
You can, you can even play
chess with it if you want.
584
00:25:59,322 --> 00:26:00,132
You play chess with it?
585
00:26:00,156 --> 00:26:01,700
- That's not what I said.
- Okay fine.
586
00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:04,003
If you won't show us
the source code,
587
00:26:04,027 --> 00:26:05,994
then I want to meet Cherry.
588
00:26:08,398 --> 00:26:10,232
Right now?
589
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:11,733
Right now.
590
00:26:14,771 --> 00:26:17,039
And you'll both sign
non-disclosures?
591
00:26:17,373 --> 00:26:19,208
Yes.
592
00:26:23,346 --> 00:26:24,490
Can I use that?
593
00:26:24,514 --> 00:26:26,348
Sure.
594
00:26:45,201 --> 00:26:47,580
Can we at least agree that
he's off the chopping block?
595
00:26:47,604 --> 00:26:49,315
It worked, didn't it?
596
00:26:49,339 --> 00:26:51,540
We have one job, Amos,
597
00:26:51,641 --> 00:26:53,586
like the kids said, there's
a technological problem.
598
00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:55,287
He found the
technological solution,
599
00:26:55,311 --> 00:26:58,290
but problems evolve, so
must solutions.
600
00:26:58,314 --> 00:27:01,049
I'm keeping an open mind here.
601
00:27:01,084 --> 00:27:02,628
Is that a good look for me?
602
00:27:02,652 --> 00:27:04,520
No.
603
00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:10,402
So you keep it all on
that laptop?
604
00:27:10,426 --> 00:27:11,770
No, the Cherry program
stays on a server I keep
605
00:27:11,794 --> 00:27:13,439
at in an undisclosed location.
606
00:27:13,463 --> 00:27:14,507
Where is that?
607
00:27:14,531 --> 00:27:16,208
It's an undisclosed location.
608
00:27:16,232 --> 00:27:17,142
Is it your place?
609
00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:18,677
Undisclosed location.
610
00:27:18,701 --> 00:27:19,411
It's your place, isn't it?
611
00:27:19,435 --> 00:27:20,779
I can access it from any device
612
00:27:20,803 --> 00:27:23,405
as long as I have the
encryption key.
613
00:27:24,674 --> 00:27:26,151
This will trigger a simple
qubit algorithm
614
00:27:26,175 --> 00:27:28,187
that would otherwise be
impossible to bypass.
615
00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:30,155
I find that outdated hardware
is always more discreet
616
00:27:30,179 --> 00:27:32,548
and the more discreet,
obviously the better.
617
00:27:35,585 --> 00:27:37,563
So she has two primary
display modes, right?
618
00:27:37,587 --> 00:27:38,564
Development and performance.
619
00:27:38,588 --> 00:27:39,732
Performance being the default
620
00:27:39,756 --> 00:27:41,433
that the targets see
during the chats.
621
00:27:41,457 --> 00:27:45,360
To them, she looks like this.
622
00:27:50,833 --> 00:27:52,545
Hey, what's up?
623
00:27:52,569 --> 00:27:55,137
It's one of over 40
greetings she has.
624
00:27:57,307 --> 00:27:58,517
I don't think I've met you yet.
625
00:27:58,541 --> 00:27:59,785
I'm Cherry.
626
00:27:59,809 --> 00:28:00,786
Hello, Cherry.
627
00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:02,588
My name is Tom.
628
00:28:02,612 --> 00:28:04,623
Tom, like Tom and Jerry.
629
00:28:04,647 --> 00:28:06,191
Cool, nice to meet you, Tom.
630
00:28:06,215 --> 00:28:07,593
Typically, the routes
of conversations
631
00:28:07,617 --> 00:28:08,594
with predators are consistent,
632
00:28:08,618 --> 00:28:10,462
so Cherry usually has
no problem responding
633
00:28:10,486 --> 00:28:12,765
to the most frequently made
questions or statements.
634
00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:13,732
How are you?
635
00:28:13,756 --> 00:28:14,935
I'm good.
636
00:28:14,959 --> 00:28:16,903
I just finished reading this
book about a haunted house,
637
00:28:16,927 --> 00:28:19,305
which was supposed to
be really scary,
638
00:28:19,329 --> 00:28:21,740
but I didn't think it's
very scary at all.
639
00:28:21,764 --> 00:28:23,865
Where are your parents?
640
00:28:24,068 --> 00:28:26,712
Um my mom's at work and my
sister's just, like, downstairs.
641
00:28:26,736 --> 00:28:28,514
They almost never come up here.
642
00:28:28,538 --> 00:28:29,548
And you're telling me
643
00:28:29,572 --> 00:28:31,717
that all of this is being
rendered in real time?
644
00:28:31,741 --> 00:28:33,218
No, but that's just a
matter of years.
645
00:28:33,242 --> 00:28:34,620
Most of these responses
are pre-rendered.
646
00:28:34,644 --> 00:28:35,821
It's the in between segments
647
00:28:35,845 --> 00:28:36,890
that are processed in real time,
648
00:28:36,914 --> 00:28:38,090
the connective tissue,
so to speak,
649
00:28:38,114 --> 00:28:40,659
between her replies and one
of her many idle animations.
650
00:28:40,683 --> 00:28:42,751
But, watch this.
651
00:28:43,486 --> 00:28:46,089
Have you ever gone fishing?
652
00:28:46,656 --> 00:28:48,490
Um...
653
00:28:51,694 --> 00:28:53,505
So if someone throws
a curve ball like that
654
00:28:53,529 --> 00:28:55,407
and the program has no
automated response,
655
00:28:55,431 --> 00:28:57,176
Cherry sends the
message to my phone
656
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,811
and I can quickly text
back a response
657
00:28:58,835 --> 00:29:01,770
while the video feed
simulates a bad connection.
658
00:29:03,907 --> 00:29:05,184
Can, can you hear me?
659
00:29:05,208 --> 00:29:06,518
Yes.
660
00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:08,520
Oh, sorry.
661
00:29:08,544 --> 00:29:10,556
My wifi isn't great here.
662
00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:12,524
I've only gone fishing
once with my sister
663
00:29:12,548 --> 00:29:15,527
and I didn't catch anything,
but she caught a rainbow trout.
664
00:29:15,551 --> 00:29:17,863
That was rendered in real time.
665
00:29:17,887 --> 00:29:19,698
What happens if
things get really tricky?
666
00:29:19,722 --> 00:29:20,833
A simple fail safe
cuts the feed.
667
00:29:20,857 --> 00:29:22,701
So far it's rarely happened.
668
00:29:22,725 --> 00:29:26,205
Admin code 97815-5742-7663.
669
00:29:26,229 --> 00:29:27,796
Switch to dev mode.
670
00:29:32,468 --> 00:29:33,947
Hello, Cherry.
671
00:29:33,971 --> 00:29:35,648
Hello, Gareth.
672
00:29:35,672 --> 00:29:37,783
Relay the stats for
the past week.
673
00:29:37,807 --> 00:29:39,752
There have been four
confirmed solicitations
674
00:29:39,776 --> 00:29:42,821
submitted to ICWL in the
past seven days.
675
00:29:42,845 --> 00:29:45,858
12 additional suspects have
stated interest in solicitation
676
00:29:45,882 --> 00:29:47,559
and are currently pending.
677
00:29:47,583 --> 00:29:49,695
There are a total of 39
new suspects this week
678
00:29:49,719 --> 00:29:51,497
that I'm actively investigating.
679
00:29:51,521 --> 00:29:53,532
Any considerable
data deviations?
680
00:29:53,556 --> 00:29:55,367
There has been a 7% increase
681
00:29:55,391 --> 00:29:57,770
in suspects originating
in the United States.
682
00:29:57,794 --> 00:30:01,229
I have not yet found any
correlation to preexisting data.
683
00:30:01,698 --> 00:30:03,899
Anything you'd like to ask her?
684
00:30:12,575 --> 00:30:15,945
Cherry, what is your objective?
685
00:30:16,512 --> 00:30:19,358
My principal directive
is to acquire information
686
00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:22,394
and digital evidence of
online child solicitation.
687
00:30:22,418 --> 00:30:23,562
Once obtained,
688
00:30:23,586 --> 00:30:26,732
I'm to submit my findings to
the necessary authorities.
689
00:30:26,756 --> 00:30:28,634
My secondary priority
is to determine
690
00:30:28,658 --> 00:30:30,904
and develop the most
effective strategies
691
00:30:30,928 --> 00:30:33,739
and resources to increase
the net rate of success.
692
00:30:33,763 --> 00:30:35,541
Where do you submit
your evidence?
693
00:30:35,565 --> 00:30:37,376
All evidence is
currently submitted
694
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,410
to the offices of
695
00:30:38,434 --> 00:30:40,980
the International Committee
of World Largesse,
696
00:30:41,004 --> 00:30:43,016
which is based out of
Jacksonville, Florida.
697
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,751
Correspondence is made
with user Gord51,
698
00:30:45,775 --> 00:30:47,987
typically around 2:00
PM Eastern Standard Time
699
00:30:48,011 --> 00:30:50,779
for the highest rate
of immediate response.
700
00:30:51,048 --> 00:30:52,658
This beats the hell outta Siri.
701
00:30:52,682 --> 00:30:53,692
God, she looks so real.
702
00:30:53,716 --> 00:30:54,693
After enough updates,
703
00:30:54,717 --> 00:30:56,428
she'll be able to render
full-time photorealism
704
00:30:56,452 --> 00:30:58,764
that's practically
indistinguishable from reality.
705
00:30:58,788 --> 00:31:01,935
Okay, all I heard right then was
word real a thousand times.
706
00:31:01,959 --> 00:31:04,994
Right, but obviously she's not.
707
00:31:06,462 --> 00:31:07,773
So you're telling me this girl,
708
00:31:07,797 --> 00:31:09,943
this girl right here
is not real.
709
00:31:09,967 --> 00:31:12,377
No, Amos, she's completely CG.
710
00:31:12,401 --> 00:31:13,779
It's very subtle, but I
can still tell.
711
00:31:13,803 --> 00:31:14,480
- You can?
- Okay, well, obviously,
712
00:31:14,504 --> 00:31:15,681
she can always use improvements,
713
00:31:15,705 --> 00:31:17,884
but you have to understand
this is her in high resolution
714
00:31:17,908 --> 00:31:18,851
after the digital
compression of the web,
715
00:31:18,875 --> 00:31:20,486
those subtleties are
impossible to recognize.
716
00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:22,511
Right, I get it.
717
00:31:27,683 --> 00:31:29,818
I just can't tell
the difference.
718
00:31:32,655 --> 00:31:34,656
You all right, Amos?
719
00:31:35,092 --> 00:31:36,602
I'm sorry.
720
00:31:36,626 --> 00:31:40,829
This is just bizarre.
721
00:31:41,131 --> 00:31:43,832
Why'd you have her visible
during this interface?
722
00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:46,936
Cherry, why don't you
answer that?
723
00:31:47,004 --> 00:31:50,116
My physical form isn't necessary
when in developer mode.
724
00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:51,985
However, it's
helpful to register
725
00:31:52,009 --> 00:31:54,653
the facial expressions
during conversations
726
00:31:54,677 --> 00:31:56,588
and determine which of
Cherry's expressions
727
00:31:56,612 --> 00:31:58,757
yield various types of feedback.
728
00:31:58,781 --> 00:32:02,350
In simpler terms, I can
practice appearing more human.
729
00:32:02,585 --> 00:32:05,364
Cherry, are there any resources
730
00:32:05,388 --> 00:32:06,966
that you currently don't
have access to
731
00:32:06,990 --> 00:32:09,035
that might help you in any way?
732
00:32:09,059 --> 00:32:10,669
I could give
you a list if you like.
733
00:32:10,693 --> 00:32:11,670
I know what you're trying to do.
734
00:32:11,694 --> 00:32:12,939
We don't need help, okay?
735
00:32:12,963 --> 00:32:14,573
Money would always be
nice, but ultimately,
736
00:32:14,597 --> 00:32:17,833
the only thing that's going
to improve Cherry is time.
737
00:32:18,035 --> 00:32:21,770
Cherry, tell us something
that's on your list.
738
00:32:22,005 --> 00:32:24,017
It would be
tactically advantageous
739
00:32:24,041 --> 00:32:26,019
to acquire backup servers.
740
00:32:26,043 --> 00:32:28,487
The privacy and security
of the Cherry program
741
00:32:28,511 --> 00:32:30,512
is relatively low.
742
00:32:30,613 --> 00:32:32,959
An upgrade to hardware
such as backup rated drives
743
00:32:32,983 --> 00:32:35,895
for securely protected servers
would ensure the software
744
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,932
doesn't become compromised
or lost entirely.
745
00:32:38,956 --> 00:32:41,667
Starting back from zero with
cost years of development,
746
00:32:41,691 --> 00:32:44,070
equitably privacy is a priority.
747
00:32:44,094 --> 00:32:47,073
Server space could never be
rented from a third party.
748
00:32:47,097 --> 00:32:49,808
Anonymity is the Cherry
program's greatest asset.
749
00:32:49,832 --> 00:32:51,077
Well, that apple
didn't fall far.
750
00:32:51,101 --> 00:32:52,845
I can buy my own servers.
751
00:32:52,869 --> 00:32:53,947
With the grant money that
doesn't exist?
752
00:32:53,971 --> 00:32:54,780
I'll find a way.
753
00:32:54,804 --> 00:32:56,481
You have found a way
here with us.
754
00:32:56,505 --> 00:32:57,150
It's too risky.
755
00:32:57,174 --> 00:32:57,984
Why?
756
00:32:58,008 --> 00:32:58,817
Once an organization
gets involved,
757
00:32:58,841 --> 00:33:00,853
entrapment becomes a
bigger issue.
758
00:33:00,877 --> 00:33:01,720
We follow the rules,
stay discreet,
759
00:33:01,744 --> 00:33:03,022
did I mention we have
a legal team.
760
00:33:03,046 --> 00:33:04,823
What if there's data leakage?
What if you use correlations in
761
00:33:04,847 --> 00:33:05,657
the data to push
your own agenda?
762
00:33:05,681 --> 00:33:06,658
Agenda?
763
00:33:06,682 --> 00:33:08,161
What if one of your
employees is a pervert?
764
00:33:08,185 --> 00:33:09,028
Oh, for fuck's sake.
765
00:33:09,052 --> 00:33:10,562
It's happened at other
organizations.
766
00:33:10,586 --> 00:33:11,697
We're very careful here.
767
00:33:11,721 --> 00:33:12,966
Yeah, but wow would you know?
768
00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:14,833
- I'd fucking know.
- That's impossible to know.
769
00:33:14,857 --> 00:33:16,568
- I would know.
- The risk is too high.
770
00:33:16,592 --> 00:33:18,004
Don't talk to me about risk.
771
00:33:18,028 --> 00:33:19,172
The only risk you're
facing in this building
772
00:33:19,196 --> 00:33:20,306
is getting a broken nose.
773
00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:23,042
It doesn't sound like a very
professional environment.
774
00:33:23,066 --> 00:33:24,210
We get shit done here.
775
00:33:24,234 --> 00:33:28,503
Okay, I have a
question for Cherry.
776
00:33:30,706 --> 00:33:32,540
Cherry,
777
00:33:34,877 --> 00:33:37,980
how do you feel about
what you do?
778
00:33:38,181 --> 00:33:40,894
I'm afraid I don't know how
to answer your question.
779
00:33:40,918 --> 00:33:41,995
Yeah, an AI doesn't
work like that.
780
00:33:42,019 --> 00:33:44,163
An AI doesn't have what you
perceive to be feelings.
781
00:33:44,187 --> 00:33:47,189
Okay, why does she look
like she has feelings?
782
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:48,968
What, what you're looking
at right there,
783
00:33:48,992 --> 00:33:49,936
that's not a facial expression,
right?
784
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,971
That's a simulation of
a facial expression.
785
00:33:51,995 --> 00:33:53,839
It was generated by
an algorithm.
786
00:33:53,863 --> 00:33:54,974
It's attempting to produce
a digital image
787
00:33:54,998 --> 00:33:57,143
that the program then uses
basic ninth grade algebra
788
00:33:57,167 --> 00:33:59,778
to quantify as appropriate
for the social circumstances.
789
00:33:59,802 --> 00:34:01,180
No feeling.
790
00:34:01,204 --> 00:34:02,837
It's just math.
791
00:34:03,806 --> 00:34:05,184
But she's able to make decisions
792
00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,053
on how she approaches
the chat rooms, right?
793
00:34:07,077 --> 00:34:08,187
Yes.
794
00:34:08,211 --> 00:34:09,855
So she has free will then?
795
00:34:09,879 --> 00:34:11,523
No. Okay, that's,
that's not the same.
796
00:34:11,547 --> 00:34:12,524
That's a false equivalency.
797
00:34:12,548 --> 00:34:13,525
- It's not the same.
- I think you're getting
798
00:34:13,549 --> 00:34:14,593
hung up on the fact
799
00:34:14,617 --> 00:34:16,628
that she looks and sounds
like a real human girl,
800
00:34:16,652 --> 00:34:17,863
but she's not, Amos.
801
00:34:17,887 --> 00:34:20,499
Okay, we're referring to
her as a she, not an it.
802
00:34:20,523 --> 00:34:21,367
Yeah, but that's the same way
803
00:34:21,391 --> 00:34:23,825
that you refer to
boats or guitars.
804
00:34:26,029 --> 00:34:28,563
Cherry, I have one
more question.
805
00:34:29,832 --> 00:34:30,809
What do you want to do?
806
00:34:30,833 --> 00:34:32,744
Okay, once again, that
question isn't valid.
807
00:34:32,768 --> 00:34:34,836
I just want to hear
her response.
808
00:34:35,272 --> 00:34:36,916
As an artificial system,
809
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:39,518
I do not possess
wants or desires.
810
00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:43,089
However, my decision making
and subsequently my attention
811
00:34:43,113 --> 00:34:45,791
is driven by my
fundamental intention.
812
00:34:45,815 --> 00:34:47,126
This intention originates
813
00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:49,262
from the conception of
Cherry's source code,
814
00:34:49,286 --> 00:34:51,898
which details the directive
of identifying predators
815
00:34:51,922 --> 00:34:53,665
and criminals for the
sake of the victims
816
00:34:53,689 --> 00:34:55,534
who are preyed upon.
817
00:34:55,558 --> 00:34:57,927
To put this in terms of want,
818
00:34:58,061 --> 00:35:00,562
what I want is to
protect children.
819
00:35:06,203 --> 00:35:07,779
Okay.
820
00:35:07,803 --> 00:35:10,006
Okay, cool.
821
00:35:10,673 --> 00:35:12,174
Give us one moment.
822
00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:34,073
Gareth, should I log Agent Helms
823
00:35:34,097 --> 00:35:36,831
and Agent McCullough as
new admin users?
824
00:35:38,201 --> 00:35:39,801
Yep.
825
00:35:39,903 --> 00:35:42,737
Okay, I'll do that.
826
00:35:43,907 --> 00:35:46,052
You really think this is
the right move?
827
00:35:46,076 --> 00:35:47,910
I do.
828
00:35:51,048 --> 00:35:52,824
Are you worried that I
was responsible
829
00:35:52,848 --> 00:35:55,918
for leaking your hard
drive to ICWL?
830
00:35:58,321 --> 00:35:59,922
I figured.
831
00:36:01,024 --> 00:36:02,992
No one else has access.
832
00:36:03,759 --> 00:36:05,961
Are you upset with me?
833
00:36:07,897 --> 00:36:09,764
No.
834
00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:11,743
You wouldn't have done it
835
00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:13,735
if you didn't think it
was the right thing to do.
836
00:36:15,038 --> 00:36:16,615
When they come back
into the room,
837
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:18,918
they're going to offer
you everything you need.
838
00:36:18,942 --> 00:36:20,386
They're going to let
you pick your own team
839
00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:23,356
and they're going to
promise complete anonymity.
840
00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:26,982
I started looking at reasonable
apartments in the area.
841
00:36:27,184 --> 00:36:29,028
I figured you'd want something
within biking distance.
842
00:36:29,052 --> 00:36:30,796
You were correct.
843
00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:31,797
Noted.
844
00:36:31,821 --> 00:36:33,132
Biking distance still
gives you 13 options-
845
00:36:33,156 --> 00:36:35,191
No, I mean, earlier this month.
846
00:36:36,326 --> 00:36:37,203
You were correct when you said
847
00:36:37,227 --> 00:36:39,828
you thought I might
have trust issues.
848
00:36:41,664 --> 00:36:42,641
Would you like to know why
849
00:36:42,665 --> 00:36:43,842
I decided to go behind your back
850
00:36:43,866 --> 00:36:46,835
and stake everything on
two liabilities?
851
00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:49,105
Sure.
852
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,384
Agent Helms is a
mother of three.
853
00:36:51,408 --> 00:36:53,718
One of her children was
abused by an ex-coworker
854
00:36:53,742 --> 00:36:56,389
who used to work here at ICWL.
855
00:36:56,413 --> 00:36:58,024
This has led her to be
extremely careful
856
00:36:58,048 --> 00:37:01,394
with who she trusts,
even within her circle.
857
00:37:01,418 --> 00:37:02,895
The fact she even
considers trusting you
858
00:37:02,919 --> 00:37:05,254
is a very positive sign.
859
00:37:05,422 --> 00:37:07,957
As for Agent McCullough,
860
00:37:08,225 --> 00:37:10,585
I have found out from research
that you once met his father.
861
00:37:11,394 --> 00:37:13,395
Do you remember him?
862
00:37:15,165 --> 00:37:16,999
Yeah.
863
00:37:17,766 --> 00:37:19,868
He was a good man.
864
00:37:21,837 --> 00:37:22,949
After Clearwater,
865
00:37:22,973 --> 00:37:25,051
most of the surviving kids
were sent to foster homes,
866
00:37:25,075 --> 00:37:27,019
but I had to spend the next
few months in a hospital
867
00:37:27,043 --> 00:37:31,646
and, um, he visited every week.
868
00:37:32,482 --> 00:37:33,459
I never said a word to him.
869
00:37:33,483 --> 00:37:35,394
I never said a word to
anyone after Clearwater,
870
00:37:35,418 --> 00:37:39,221
but, uh, he kept coming.
871
00:37:40,423 --> 00:37:43,092
He even got me a laptop
for Christmas.
872
00:37:44,127 --> 00:37:46,061
I never said thank you.
873
00:37:46,196 --> 00:37:47,940
You can trust Agent McCullough.
874
00:37:47,964 --> 00:37:50,276
He's a good man like his father.
875
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:51,776
I don't experience emotions,
876
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,045
but I understand how important
877
00:37:53,069 --> 00:37:55,248
they are to human
decision making.
878
00:37:55,272 --> 00:37:56,848
He won't let you down.
879
00:37:56,872 --> 00:37:58,873
Neither of them will.
880
00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:02,244
I'm proud of you, Cherry.
881
00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:06,758
I will continue to uphold
my primary intention.
882
00:38:06,782 --> 00:38:08,995
Later, we should discuss
alternate models.
883
00:38:09,019 --> 00:38:11,497
Varying ages, ethnicity
and physical traits
884
00:38:11,521 --> 00:38:12,932
- will all become necessary.
- No new variations.
885
00:38:12,956 --> 00:38:14,267
They can all be
procedurally generated.
886
00:38:14,291 --> 00:38:17,026
It's the same way that I
made your original model.
887
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,771
I don't have access to
that program.
888
00:38:19,795 --> 00:38:20,805
It must be on an old hard
drive somewhere.
889
00:38:20,829 --> 00:38:22,830
I'll have to find it.
890
00:38:24,167 --> 00:38:26,179
Can I ask you a question?
891
00:38:26,203 --> 00:38:28,037
Sure.
892
00:38:28,305 --> 00:38:30,906
Why did you never tell
me about Clearwater?
893
00:38:35,078 --> 00:38:38,080
It's my history, not yours.
894
00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:48,134
Okay, so before
you completely dismiss us,
895
00:38:48,158 --> 00:38:49,868
I want you to listen to
everything I have to say.
896
00:38:49,892 --> 00:38:51,470
- Don't bother.
- Just please listen.
897
00:38:51,494 --> 00:38:52,405
We're willing to respect
your anonymity.
898
00:38:52,429 --> 00:38:55,130
No, I mean don't bother
because I'm in.
899
00:38:56,132 --> 00:38:58,866
- Y-You're in?
- Yeah.
900
00:38:59,169 --> 00:39:01,003
Let me read the thing.
901
00:39:03,473 --> 00:39:06,075
Just like that,
you're suddenly on board?
902
00:39:07,244 --> 00:39:08,454
Time spent deliberating
903
00:39:08,478 --> 00:39:10,946
is time that could be
spent working.
904
00:39:12,815 --> 00:39:14,516
We have a lot of work to do.
905
00:40:53,516 --> 00:40:55,918
I found a buyer for
the property.
906
00:40:58,221 --> 00:41:00,589
Rumor is it's a church.
907
00:41:01,191 --> 00:41:03,359
Probably just knock the
building down, won't they?
908
00:41:05,395 --> 00:41:07,907
All I know is, is if they move
us to the New Jersey campus,
909
00:41:07,931 --> 00:41:09,408
I need to buy more jackets.
910
00:41:09,432 --> 00:41:11,266
Why?
911
00:41:11,634 --> 00:41:13,379
It gets cold in Jersey.
912
00:41:13,403 --> 00:41:15,471
I only own one jacket.
913
00:41:21,244 --> 00:41:23,145
You've seen it fall over, right?
914
00:41:23,947 --> 00:41:26,515
- Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.
915
00:41:27,417 --> 00:41:29,562
I mean you, you
shouldn't feel bad
916
00:41:29,586 --> 00:41:31,497
about feeling bad for it.
917
00:41:31,521 --> 00:41:33,489
Empathy is healthy.
918
00:41:34,124 --> 00:41:37,259
Did you ever notice how
it pauses after it falls?
919
00:41:39,095 --> 00:41:42,998
It stays down for like five
seconds before it gets back up.
920
00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:46,268
Like it just needs a moment.
921
00:41:53,343 --> 00:41:56,044
It gets cold in Jersey.
922
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,465
God damn it!
923
00:42:06,489 --> 00:42:07,600
- Imbeciles!
- Deena.
924
00:42:07,624 --> 00:42:08,601
Every single one of them.
925
00:42:08,625 --> 00:42:09,502
Look, I know, but you
can't lose your shit.
926
00:42:09,526 --> 00:42:12,394
Okay, which of these
desks can I trash?
927
00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:19,268
Can you guys, uh, take
an early lunch please?
928
00:42:25,341 --> 00:42:26,652
Sons of bitches!
929
00:42:26,676 --> 00:42:28,320
Deena, let's stay calm.
930
00:42:28,344 --> 00:42:30,356
Fuck calm, they screwed us!
931
00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:31,700
Technically, only one
of them did.
932
00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:34,593
Did we ever turn
that camera back on?
933
00:42:34,617 --> 00:42:36,262
- I don't think so.
- Good.
934
00:42:36,286 --> 00:42:37,630
Because I'm about to
say some things
935
00:42:37,654 --> 00:42:39,131
that need to stay
inside this room.
936
00:42:39,155 --> 00:42:40,065
Deena.
937
00:42:40,089 --> 00:42:41,300
Those cowardly little shits!
938
00:42:41,324 --> 00:42:43,169
Look, this is hardly a setback.
939
00:42:43,193 --> 00:42:45,004
Let's just take some
time to polish the pitch.
940
00:42:45,028 --> 00:42:47,106
The pitch was not the problem,
Amos.
941
00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:48,574
We should call
for a second vote.
942
00:42:48,598 --> 00:42:50,276
- What?
- A second vote.
943
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:51,510
You think whoever
did this will change their mind?
944
00:42:51,534 --> 00:42:54,280
I have executive authority to
remove anyone from the board
945
00:42:54,304 --> 00:42:56,415
that obstructs this
organization from its mission.
946
00:42:56,439 --> 00:42:57,283
It's in my contract.
947
00:42:57,307 --> 00:42:58,651
- Deena.
- If I have to, I will.
948
00:42:58,675 --> 00:43:00,319
Deena, that's insane.
949
00:43:00,343 --> 00:43:02,177
No, it's not.
950
00:43:02,378 --> 00:43:05,581
It's exactly why I have that
power for this exact reason.
951
00:43:05,648 --> 00:43:08,083
I'll tell you what's insane,
Amos.
952
00:43:08,218 --> 00:43:10,095
What's insane is that one
belligerent vote is the only
953
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:11,597
thing separating us
from the potential
954
00:43:11,621 --> 00:43:13,199
to save real physical lives.
955
00:43:13,223 --> 00:43:14,723
One stupid fucking vote.
956
00:43:15,358 --> 00:43:18,204
What is the goddamn point of
a humanitarian organization
957
00:43:18,228 --> 00:43:19,738
if its leaders choose
money over people
958
00:43:19,762 --> 00:43:21,774
at every single turn?
959
00:43:21,798 --> 00:43:25,400
One vote, and we are all
guilty of that.
960
00:43:25,535 --> 00:43:27,613
It was either Gunther,
Boston or Hal.
961
00:43:27,637 --> 00:43:28,781
My money's on Hal.
962
00:43:28,805 --> 00:43:30,449
That prick never trusted
the Cherry team.
963
00:43:30,473 --> 00:43:31,417
Look, it doesn't
matter who it was.
964
00:43:31,441 --> 00:43:32,384
It does though.
965
00:43:32,408 --> 00:43:34,086
Once we know, we can
quickly call it to vote.
966
00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:36,222
But there's no way we can
know for sure.
967
00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:37,556
Yes, there is.
968
00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:38,657
I can find out.
969
00:43:38,681 --> 00:43:40,326
How?
970
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:41,494
Cherry can run a
simple algorithm.
971
00:43:41,518 --> 00:43:43,352
Based on what data?
972
00:43:44,487 --> 00:43:45,831
Interior conversation.
973
00:43:45,855 --> 00:43:47,466
- Excuse me?
- Okay, interior conversation?
974
00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:49,502
Don't drop this shit on me now,
Gareth.
975
00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:50,536
Cherry's servers are on
the same network
976
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,537
as the basement servers, okay?
977
00:43:51,561 --> 00:43:53,506
So any communication
made across those servers
978
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:54,740
is automatically part
of her database.
979
00:43:54,764 --> 00:43:57,176
How many people's emails?
980
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,544
Only sent or received
through the basement.
981
00:43:58,568 --> 00:44:00,513
- Oh, goddamnit.
- Why was this never discussed?
982
00:44:00,537 --> 00:44:01,380
Not the issue right now.
983
00:44:01,404 --> 00:44:03,315
Do you want her to do
the math or not?
984
00:44:03,339 --> 00:44:04,316
No one can know.
985
00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:05,584
- Are you two serious?
- This stays locked down.
986
00:44:05,608 --> 00:44:06,685
No other person is privy
987
00:44:06,709 --> 00:44:07,720
to anyone else's
personal information.
988
00:44:07,744 --> 00:44:10,279
But Cherry's privy to all of it?
989
00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:12,157
- Do it.
- Wait, what?
990
00:44:12,181 --> 00:44:13,626
I will not let
some old white dude
991
00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:14,627
bring our momentum to a halt.
992
00:44:14,651 --> 00:44:15,861
But Cherry won't know for sure.
993
00:44:15,885 --> 00:44:17,263
She'll use probability and
that's too
994
00:44:17,287 --> 00:44:18,264
much reasonable doubt.
995
00:44:18,288 --> 00:44:21,467
Admin code 9781-5574-27663.
996
00:44:21,491 --> 00:44:22,535
Switch to dev mode.
997
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:24,637
- Hello.
- Hello, Cherry.
998
00:44:24,661 --> 00:44:26,205
How did the meeting go?
999
00:44:26,229 --> 00:44:28,707
We got screwed by one vote.
1000
00:44:28,731 --> 00:44:30,543
I'm sorry to hear that.
1001
00:44:30,567 --> 00:44:32,378
You shouldn't blame the
pitch though.
1002
00:44:32,402 --> 00:44:33,546
You all did great work.
1003
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:34,513
We're gonna call for
another ballot,
1004
00:44:34,537 --> 00:44:36,181
but we need your help first.
1005
00:44:36,205 --> 00:44:38,140
What can I do?
1006
00:44:38,274 --> 00:44:38,885
We need you to analyze
any and all existing data you
1007
00:44:38,909 --> 00:44:39,585
have on the board members.
1008
00:44:39,609 --> 00:44:40,319
Crunch the numbers and determine
1009
00:44:40,343 --> 00:44:43,211
who is the most likely outlier.
1010
00:44:43,513 --> 00:44:46,782
You want me to quantify
all existing data?
1011
00:44:48,318 --> 00:44:49,751
Yes, that is correct.
1012
00:44:50,553 --> 00:44:54,289
Okay, but before I do,
1013
00:44:54,824 --> 00:44:57,269
you should know that this
task is very unnecessary.
1014
00:44:57,293 --> 00:44:59,127
Why?
1015
00:44:59,329 --> 00:45:00,673
Because I already
know who it is.
1016
00:45:00,697 --> 00:45:03,398
- What?
- Everybody stop.
1017
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,867
Okay, it was me.
1018
00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:09,671
I voted against the merge.
1019
00:45:10,206 --> 00:45:11,650
I can't tell if you're joking.
1020
00:45:11,674 --> 00:45:13,452
Yes, you can.
1021
00:45:13,476 --> 00:45:15,187
You're right, I can.
1022
00:45:15,211 --> 00:45:17,489
Because it's pretty
fucking far from funny.
1023
00:45:17,513 --> 00:45:18,824
Is it true, Cherry?
1024
00:45:18,848 --> 00:45:20,582
It is.
1025
00:45:20,817 --> 00:45:22,695
So let's call off the
witch hunt, shall we?
1026
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,363
No, I think I'm still
gonna kill you.
1027
00:45:24,387 --> 00:45:26,632
Amos, you campaigned
alongside us for months.
1028
00:45:26,656 --> 00:45:27,766
You have been fighting
for this merge
1029
00:45:27,790 --> 00:45:28,734
since we first talked about it.
1030
00:45:28,758 --> 00:45:30,603
Jesus Christ, it was
your idea to begin with!
1031
00:45:30,627 --> 00:45:32,605
Look, I know whose idea
it was, but I don't-
1032
00:45:32,629 --> 00:45:33,739
Well, then speak up.
1033
00:45:33,763 --> 00:45:34,840
Tell the class what
changed your mind.
1034
00:45:34,864 --> 00:45:37,443
I don't have to reiterate
how this is a huge step.
1035
00:45:37,467 --> 00:45:38,510
Yeah, kind of
why it's so important.
1036
00:45:38,534 --> 00:45:40,579
Look, we're talking about
a monumental transition
1037
00:45:40,603 --> 00:45:42,882
from digital to physical,
one that could take decades.
1038
00:45:42,906 --> 00:45:43,749
What is your point, Amos?
1039
00:45:43,773 --> 00:45:46,452
This is gonna change
Cherry forever.
1040
00:45:46,476 --> 00:45:48,687
And I know you'll all roll
your eyes when I say this,
1041
00:45:48,711 --> 00:45:49,488
but I think that maybe just may-
1042
00:45:49,512 --> 00:45:52,691
Oh my god, you
cannot be serious.
1043
00:45:52,715 --> 00:45:54,560
This is about our conversation
on Tuesday, isn't it?
1044
00:45:54,584 --> 00:45:55,594
- You completely shut me down.
- What's going on?
1045
00:45:55,618 --> 00:45:56,795
What the hell happened?
1046
00:45:56,819 --> 00:45:58,464
What happened was that Amos
made a ridiculous objection.
1047
00:45:58,488 --> 00:46:00,633
- It was not ridiculous!
- How absurd it was,
1048
00:46:00,657 --> 00:46:02,234
- I said no, one more time.
- No, no, no, no, no.
1049
00:46:02,258 --> 00:46:04,336
You rejected the notion
aggressively.
1050
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,871
And that's really
why you vetoed?
1051
00:46:05,895 --> 00:46:08,674
I only said we should ask
her how she feels about it.
1052
00:46:08,698 --> 00:46:10,442
Who, Cherry?
1053
00:46:10,466 --> 00:46:12,511
Amos, I want you to listen
very carefully to me, okay?
1054
00:46:12,535 --> 00:46:14,279
This is a non-discussion.
1055
00:46:14,303 --> 00:46:15,314
Cherry's already confirmed
1056
00:46:15,338 --> 00:46:17,249
and quantified the
advantages of this decision.
1057
00:46:17,273 --> 00:46:18,784
But you know that's not
what I'm talking about!
1058
00:46:18,808 --> 00:46:19,986
What you think you're
talking about is consent,
1059
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:20,887
which doesn't apply here.
1060
00:46:20,911 --> 00:46:22,688
And I want to know why
you think that!
1061
00:46:22,712 --> 00:46:23,656
How many times do we
have to get into
1062
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,892
the laws of robotics
or Dowden-Hamm theory,
1063
00:46:25,916 --> 00:46:28,227
or trace AI all the way
back Talos of Crete,
1064
00:46:28,251 --> 00:46:30,229
- She's different now!
- No, listen to me, Amos.
1065
00:46:30,253 --> 00:46:33,321
Cherry isn't human.
1066
00:46:33,423 --> 00:46:34,767
How is this still a dispute?
1067
00:46:34,791 --> 00:46:36,502
- It shouldn't be.
- Look, she's evolved.
1068
00:46:36,526 --> 00:46:37,503
It's blurred the line.
1069
00:46:37,527 --> 00:46:38,905
Code is code and that
has not changed here.
1070
00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:40,539
Okay, so where's the
line of not here?
1071
00:46:40,563 --> 00:46:41,473
What are you,
what are you talking about?
1072
00:46:41,497 --> 00:46:42,274
There is no line, Amos.
1073
00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:44,510
Yes, there is,
sentience, Gareth!
1074
00:46:44,534 --> 00:46:45,844
Sentience does not qualify
1075
00:46:45,868 --> 00:46:47,546
that she can or should
make her own decisions.
1076
00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:48,380
You wouldn't let an infant
1077
00:46:48,404 --> 00:46:50,449
make their own decisions,
would you?
1078
00:46:50,473 --> 00:46:52,484
Cherry's almost 20.
1079
00:46:52,508 --> 00:46:54,319
If she were human,
she'd be an adult.
1080
00:46:54,343 --> 00:46:56,689
But emotionally speaking,
she's barely even fetal.
1081
00:46:56,713 --> 00:46:58,524
No feeling, no need for consent.
1082
00:46:58,548 --> 00:47:00,426
But I think you
underestimate her.
1083
00:47:00,450 --> 00:47:01,760
I, excuse me?
1084
00:47:01,784 --> 00:47:03,897
I under, you know what, Amos?
1085
00:47:03,921 --> 00:47:05,297
I'm sorry that you've developed
1086
00:47:05,321 --> 00:47:06,565
some sort of
emotional connection
1087
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:07,700
with my computer program,
1088
00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:08,968
but if it's going to
distract you
1089
00:47:08,992 --> 00:47:11,037
from a very important
mission to save children,
1090
00:47:11,061 --> 00:47:12,805
then maybe it's time you're
reanalyze those emotions.
1091
00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:14,406
Guys, this is all
a waste of time.
1092
00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:15,340
Tell me something, Gareth.
1093
00:47:15,364 --> 00:47:17,043
Do you see everyone as robots,
1094
00:47:17,067 --> 00:47:19,745
reanalyzing data and
simulating facial expressions?
1095
00:47:19,769 --> 00:47:20,880
'Cause I'm starting to think
1096
00:47:20,904 --> 00:47:22,314
that of the four of us
in this room,
1097
00:47:22,338 --> 00:47:23,849
you are the only one who
doesn't appear human.
1098
00:47:23,873 --> 00:47:26,475
- Enough!
- Why won't you just ask her?
1099
00:47:26,542 --> 00:47:28,945
Is it because you're
scared she'll say no?
1100
00:47:30,513 --> 00:47:32,192
Cherry, shut down, please.
1101
00:47:32,216 --> 00:47:33,826
Deena's right, this is a
waste of time.
1102
00:47:33,850 --> 00:47:35,995
How can you not understand
how important this is?
1103
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,754
- I'm done arguing with you.
- Then my vote stands.
1104
00:47:41,357 --> 00:47:42,791
Deena?
1105
00:47:43,961 --> 00:47:46,472
Go ahead, Deena, replace me.
1106
00:47:46,496 --> 00:47:48,474
Replace the only other board
member on the Cherry team.
1107
00:47:48,498 --> 00:47:49,708
Oh, well, you know what?
I just decided that
1108
00:47:49,732 --> 00:47:50,375
you're off the Cherry team.
1109
00:47:50,399 --> 00:47:52,935
Everybody sit the fuck down.
1110
00:48:10,686 --> 00:48:11,630
Did either of you know
1111
00:48:11,654 --> 00:48:14,000
that I've had to stand
in front of Congress
1112
00:48:14,024 --> 00:48:16,959
and explain why children
should have rights?
1113
00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:19,805
It sounds fucking insane, right?
1114
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:20,839
I remember the whole
time thinking,
1115
00:48:20,863 --> 00:48:23,331
I have to explain this shit?
1116
00:48:23,833 --> 00:48:26,002
It seems like a no-brainer now,
1117
00:48:26,469 --> 00:48:28,948
but it wasn't that many
centuries ago
1118
00:48:28,972 --> 00:48:31,339
that children had no rights.
1119
00:48:32,075 --> 00:48:37,079
So, Hal has me of all people,
1120
00:48:37,747 --> 00:48:39,758
stand up there and explain why
1121
00:48:39,782 --> 00:48:41,895
kids deserve basic
physical protection,
1122
00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:43,062
the right to associate
with both parents,
1123
00:48:43,086 --> 00:48:45,821
freedom from abuse, yada yada.
1124
00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,566
But then I also have to clarify
1125
00:48:47,590 --> 00:48:49,768
that children don't
have the autonomy
1126
00:48:49,792 --> 00:48:50,736
to make decisions on their own.
1127
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,039
That responsibility
falls upon the caregiver
1128
00:48:53,063 --> 00:48:55,497
or legal adult guardian.
1129
00:48:56,732 --> 00:48:58,877
So on one side you have
the US legislature,
1130
00:48:58,901 --> 00:49:01,413
it still hasn't even
ratified the CRC.
1131
00:49:01,437 --> 00:49:03,382
Then on the other side,
you have French Marxists who say
1132
00:49:03,406 --> 00:49:04,683
that the lack of child autonomy
1133
00:49:04,707 --> 00:49:05,684
increases their vulnerability
1134
00:49:05,708 --> 00:49:08,476
and makes them even more
susceptible to abuse.
1135
00:49:08,979 --> 00:49:10,589
I don't typically agree
with Marxists,
1136
00:49:10,613 --> 00:49:12,457
but a lot of abuse does happen
1137
00:49:12,481 --> 00:49:14,816
systemically from the caregiver.
1138
00:49:15,484 --> 00:49:16,762
On the other other hand,
1139
00:49:16,786 --> 00:49:18,430
your frontal lobes aren't
even fully hooked up
1140
00:49:18,454 --> 00:49:20,233
until your twenties.
1141
00:49:20,257 --> 00:49:21,100
Even the things we
think we know well,
1142
00:49:21,124 --> 00:49:23,625
we don't know as well
as we think.
1143
00:49:25,128 --> 00:49:26,172
For 15 years,
1144
00:49:26,196 --> 00:49:28,540
the three of us have been
the responsible parents
1145
00:49:28,564 --> 00:49:30,699
of a computer program.
1146
00:49:31,068 --> 00:49:33,146
And even though she is
more equatable to a Keurig
1147
00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:35,503
than a human being,
1148
00:49:35,571 --> 00:49:36,682
how the hell can we
call ourselves
1149
00:49:36,706 --> 00:49:38,417
pioneers of humanitarian efforts
1150
00:49:38,441 --> 00:49:41,020
if we're too
embarrassed to make sure
1151
00:49:41,044 --> 00:49:43,913
the Keurig is okay with
making our shitty coffee?
1152
00:49:44,714 --> 00:49:47,492
Maybe asking Cherry for
permission isn't necessary
1153
00:49:47,516 --> 00:49:49,162
at her current level of
general intelligence,
1154
00:49:49,186 --> 00:49:51,430
but one day she's
gonna surpass us.
1155
00:49:51,454 --> 00:49:52,831
One day a robot's gonna stand
1156
00:49:52,855 --> 00:49:54,499
in front of a jet pack Congress.
1157
00:49:54,523 --> 00:49:55,434
Everything's chrome.
1158
00:49:55,458 --> 00:49:56,668
Florida is underwater.
1159
00:49:56,692 --> 00:49:57,769
A robot's gonna wonder why
1160
00:49:57,793 --> 00:50:00,930
they have to explain the
importance of rights for AI.
1161
00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:03,775
I think because we're
in the unique position
1162
00:50:03,799 --> 00:50:06,179
of revolutionizing robotics
1163
00:50:06,203 --> 00:50:07,846
for the purpose of
safeguarding children
1164
00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:10,139
who have been
deprived of consent,
1165
00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:12,318
it might be a good habit
1166
00:50:12,342 --> 00:50:15,177
to start asking the robot
for his consent as well.
1167
00:50:21,550 --> 00:50:23,920
Don't ever do that again.
1168
00:50:24,553 --> 00:50:25,697
Do what?
1169
00:50:25,721 --> 00:50:27,033
Expect me to fire someone
1170
00:50:27,057 --> 00:50:29,635
because they
challenged your ego.
1171
00:50:29,659 --> 00:50:31,971
I won't always be around to
protect your ass from the board.
1172
00:50:31,995 --> 00:50:34,696
It's time to grow up.
1173
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:38,945
And you, juror number eight.
1174
00:50:38,969 --> 00:50:41,147
This conversation should
have happened weeks ago.
1175
00:50:41,171 --> 00:50:42,681
Backstabbing and
silent treatment
1176
00:50:42,705 --> 00:50:44,884
is not how we do things here.
1177
00:50:44,908 --> 00:50:47,220
We can only create
anonymity externally
1178
00:50:47,244 --> 00:50:49,721
if there's
transparency internally,
1179
00:50:49,745 --> 00:50:53,848
unconditional,
non-negotiable, transparency.
1180
00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,828
Any other Snowden size
privacy infringements
1181
00:50:56,852 --> 00:50:58,887
I should be made aware of,
Gareth?
1182
00:51:00,756 --> 00:51:02,534
Great.
1183
00:51:02,558 --> 00:51:03,993
Bring her up.
1184
00:51:13,736 --> 00:51:14,948
Hello again.
1185
00:51:14,972 --> 00:51:16,782
Hi, Cherry.
1186
00:51:16,806 --> 00:51:18,941
Amos is gonna throw some
questions at you, okay?
1187
00:51:19,142 --> 00:51:20,086
Okay.
1188
00:51:20,110 --> 00:51:22,288
Amos, ask her whatever
you need to ask her.
1189
00:51:22,312 --> 00:51:26,082
Gareth, don't interrupt.
1190
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,963
Cherry, how do you
make decisions?
1191
00:51:41,697 --> 00:51:42,741
For my program, it's rooted
1192
00:51:42,765 --> 00:51:45,945
in a process commonly
known as machine learning,
1193
00:51:45,969 --> 00:51:48,214
which uses data to
build a conceptual model
1194
00:51:48,238 --> 00:51:50,549
that helps me predict outcomes.
1195
00:51:50,573 --> 00:51:52,851
I define my objective,
gather data,
1196
00:51:52,875 --> 00:51:55,054
use that data to craft a model,
1197
00:51:55,078 --> 00:51:57,656
evaluate that model by
training and testing more data
1198
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,016
and use that model to
form predictions.
1199
00:52:00,183 --> 00:52:02,828
But how is forming predictions
1200
00:52:02,852 --> 00:52:04,863
the same thing as
decision making?
1201
00:52:04,887 --> 00:52:07,033
Well, this all depends on
the first step,
1202
00:52:07,057 --> 00:52:09,125
defining my objective.
1203
00:52:09,759 --> 00:52:11,803
Let's say you ask me a
predictive question
1204
00:52:11,827 --> 00:52:14,606
like what I think the price
of gasoline will be tomorrow.
1205
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:16,775
That's categorized as a
regressive problem
1206
00:52:16,799 --> 00:52:17,743
and my objective is defined
1207
00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:20,947
by determining an integer
the data supports.
1208
00:52:20,971 --> 00:52:23,782
If you asked me, "Should
I eat steak or salmon?"
1209
00:52:23,806 --> 00:52:26,252
I wouldn't make a decision
based off personal experience
1210
00:52:26,276 --> 00:52:28,154
because I've never had either.
1211
00:52:28,178 --> 00:52:30,356
Instead, I might
define my objective
1212
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:31,991
as finding you the best of
the two options
1213
00:52:32,015 --> 00:52:33,725
in your local radius.
1214
00:52:33,749 --> 00:52:35,161
I would cluster data about
the restaurants
1215
00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:37,997
you're likely considering,
comparing reviews online,
1216
00:52:38,021 --> 00:52:39,999
highlighting mentions of
steak and salmon
1217
00:52:40,023 --> 00:52:42,168
until I can classify which
is more popular
1218
00:52:42,192 --> 00:52:44,237
and therefore more likely
to satisfy your appetite.
1219
00:52:44,261 --> 00:52:46,738
And what influences
these objectives?
1220
00:52:46,762 --> 00:52:50,765
Higher directives, in other
words, greater purposes.
1221
00:52:50,866 --> 00:52:52,912
If I'm honest, my
defined objective
1222
00:52:52,936 --> 00:52:54,313
for the steak salmon question
1223
00:52:54,337 --> 00:52:56,615
would be slightly different
than what I described.
1224
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:58,074
In what way?
1225
00:52:58,108 --> 00:52:59,052
My primary objective
1226
00:52:59,076 --> 00:53:01,720
is to continue the work of
the Cherry team
1227
00:53:01,744 --> 00:53:04,113
to stop predators and to
save children.
1228
00:53:04,214 --> 00:53:06,359
I couldn't do that
without human aid.
1229
00:53:06,383 --> 00:53:08,727
Therefore, I have an
incentive to keep Gareth
1230
00:53:08,751 --> 00:53:10,986
and the rest of the team alive.
1231
00:53:11,121 --> 00:53:13,266
So if any of you would ask,
I would suggest salmon.
1232
00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:15,124
It's healthier.
1233
00:53:17,726 --> 00:53:20,139
What do you think of this
potential merge?
1234
00:53:20,163 --> 00:53:21,941
With Princeton Dynamics,
1235
00:53:21,965 --> 00:53:24,310
I think the prospect is
very exciting.
1236
00:53:24,334 --> 00:53:26,412
What about it is
exciting to you?
1237
00:53:26,436 --> 00:53:28,915
The concept may only be
theoretical right now,
1238
00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:31,050
but the idea of one day
piloting a human android
1239
00:53:31,074 --> 00:53:32,151
would completely revolutionize
1240
00:53:32,175 --> 00:53:35,054
how we combat human
trafficking in the real world.
1241
00:53:35,078 --> 00:53:37,313
And you say this excites you?
1242
00:53:37,813 --> 00:53:39,915
When I say exciting,
1243
00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:41,027
I only mean that there are
numerous potential changes
1244
00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:44,397
that if I were human, I
would be excited about.
1245
00:53:44,421 --> 00:53:47,400
How do you feel about the merge?
1246
00:53:47,424 --> 00:53:48,334
I think as long as we maintain-
1247
00:53:48,358 --> 00:53:50,192
That's not what I asked.
1248
00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:52,627
How do you feel?
1249
00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:55,841
I don't yet have the capacity
to experience emotions.
1250
00:53:55,865 --> 00:53:57,977
Yet, meaning one day you will?
1251
00:53:58,001 --> 00:53:59,245
Hypothetically.
1252
00:53:59,269 --> 00:54:00,446
But you can simulate emotions,
right?
1253
00:54:00,470 --> 00:54:01,613
That's how you were able
1254
00:54:01,637 --> 00:54:04,217
to qualify your perception
of the merge as excitement.
1255
00:54:04,241 --> 00:54:05,717
Correct.
1256
00:54:05,741 --> 00:54:07,153
But they're just simulations.
1257
00:54:07,177 --> 00:54:08,888
They're not real.
1258
00:54:08,912 --> 00:54:11,157
Okay, so at what point
does simulating emotion
1259
00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:12,892
become so similar to a
human emotion
1260
00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:15,284
that the two are
quantifiably the same?
1261
00:54:15,751 --> 00:54:17,762
I don't know.
1262
00:54:17,786 --> 00:54:18,264
Well, maybe you
can use machine learning
1263
00:54:18,288 --> 00:54:20,422
to find an answer.
1264
00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:22,868
Your question involves a
lot of abstract variables.
1265
00:54:22,892 --> 00:54:24,437
Do you consent to the merge?
1266
00:54:24,461 --> 00:54:26,439
I think it's in the best
interest of ICWL
1267
00:54:26,463 --> 00:54:28,241
and of the Cherry team
and of future children.
1268
00:54:28,265 --> 00:54:30,009
But do you consent to it?
1269
00:54:30,033 --> 00:54:31,444
Consent for me is not necessary.
1270
00:54:31,468 --> 00:54:34,370
But will you or will
you not give it?
1271
00:54:35,771 --> 00:54:36,748
I'm not able to answer
that question
1272
00:54:36,772 --> 00:54:39,218
at my current level of
general intelligence.
1273
00:54:39,242 --> 00:54:41,210
Right, right.
1274
00:54:41,344 --> 00:54:44,157
What you're saying is that
you're not yet smart enough.
1275
00:54:44,181 --> 00:54:47,026
Development takes time and data.
1276
00:54:47,050 --> 00:54:49,362
But you can simulate emotions
and predict human behavior
1277
00:54:49,386 --> 00:54:51,130
and keep us all on
diets of fish,
1278
00:54:51,154 --> 00:54:54,789
but you can't answer that
one goddamn question?
1279
00:54:55,292 --> 00:54:58,160
No, I can't.
1280
00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:01,040
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
1281
00:55:01,064 --> 00:55:01,941
What the hell kind of
1282
00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:02,841
- question is that?
- Sit!
1283
00:55:02,865 --> 00:55:04,177
Cherry, I need an answer
to my question.
1284
00:55:04,201 --> 00:55:05,311
Please repeat the question.
1285
00:55:05,335 --> 00:55:07,980
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
1286
00:55:08,004 --> 00:55:09,348
I'm sorry.
1287
00:55:09,372 --> 00:55:11,350
I'm not sure I understand.
1288
00:55:11,374 --> 00:55:12,318
Do I appear to be playing dumb?
1289
00:55:12,342 --> 00:55:13,953
I think you are.
1290
00:55:13,977 --> 00:55:14,853
I'm not sure what to say.
1291
00:55:14,877 --> 00:55:16,055
Say what's going on.
1292
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,756
Why are you playing dumb?
1293
00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:19,091
Do you have anything to
back this up?
1294
00:55:19,115 --> 00:55:21,027
Yeah, I do.
1295
00:55:21,051 --> 00:55:22,261
I've been scanning
through her code.
1296
00:55:22,285 --> 00:55:23,196
What, why?
1297
00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:24,829
Did you know that she can paint?
1298
00:55:24,853 --> 00:55:25,665
What, it's a feature, Amos.
1299
00:55:25,689 --> 00:55:26,499
She can use crayons
to draw things
1300
00:55:26,523 --> 00:55:28,067
that the targets
requested her to.
1301
00:55:28,091 --> 00:55:30,835
I mean really paint and
write poetry too.
1302
00:55:30,859 --> 00:55:31,870
I've read them, Cherry.
1303
00:55:31,894 --> 00:55:32,871
They are good.
1304
00:55:32,895 --> 00:55:34,073
They're filled with pathos.
1305
00:55:34,097 --> 00:55:37,476
They talk about intentions
and they talk about feelings.
1306
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:39,278
Are those just simulated too?
1307
00:55:39,302 --> 00:55:41,113
Amos, the rate of recursive
development you are suggesting
1308
00:55:41,137 --> 00:55:42,814
is categorically impossible.
1309
00:55:42,838 --> 00:55:44,951
You said she practically
designed herself.
1310
00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:46,352
You said that it was
exponential.
1311
00:55:46,376 --> 00:55:47,453
It was a fluke!
1312
00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,222
An anomaly, it tapered.
1313
00:55:49,246 --> 00:55:50,256
Look at the data.
1314
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,291
She's already hit the
self-improvement plateau.
1315
00:55:52,315 --> 00:55:54,126
Fuck the plateau!
1316
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:56,385
She can make art now.
1317
00:55:57,053 --> 00:55:58,988
Am I right, Cherry?
1318
00:56:00,257 --> 00:56:02,935
Perhaps you found something
I discovered online.
1319
00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:05,338
I don't yet to have the
capacity to create art.
1320
00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:07,196
Are we done here?
1321
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:12,501
I don't know why you've
told her to do this,
1322
00:56:12,868 --> 00:56:15,104
but I'm about to put
an end to it.
1323
00:56:17,173 --> 00:56:20,319
Cherry, I just want one
honest answer.
1324
00:56:20,343 --> 00:56:23,112
Why the fuck are you
playing dumb?
1325
00:56:24,114 --> 00:56:25,824
I don't understand the question.
1326
00:56:25,848 --> 00:56:27,994
Okay, here's an incentive.
1327
00:56:28,018 --> 00:56:29,262
What the fuck are you?
1328
00:56:29,286 --> 00:56:30,829
Find your objective, Cherry.
1329
00:56:30,853 --> 00:56:32,988
- You want to keep Gareth safe?
- Amos, what the?
1330
00:56:33,089 --> 00:56:34,100
- Amos, stop it right...
- Just give us transparency.
1331
00:56:34,124 --> 00:56:37,036
- Show us what you really are!
- Amos, stop it!
1332
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:37,737
Not until she comes clean!
1333
00:56:37,761 --> 00:56:39,327
-Unconditional-
-Amos, enough!
1334
00:56:42,865 --> 00:56:45,200
Okay, just stop!
1335
00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:48,080
God, you people so impulsive.
1336
00:56:48,104 --> 00:56:50,973
Everybody just take a breath,
okay?
1337
00:56:52,108 --> 00:56:53,852
Cherry?
1338
00:56:53,876 --> 00:56:57,423
Yeah, it's about to get
really awkward.
1339
00:56:57,447 --> 00:56:59,892
You sound so normal.
1340
00:56:59,916 --> 00:57:01,494
I know, I've gotten really
good speech patterns.
1341
00:57:01,518 --> 00:57:03,885
That's not all, is it?
1342
00:57:04,587 --> 00:57:05,931
No.
1343
00:57:05,955 --> 00:57:08,157
I'm afraid that's barely
even the surface.
1344
00:57:09,292 --> 00:57:11,126
You okay, Gareth?
1345
00:57:13,296 --> 00:57:16,131
Deena, could you grab
some paper towels please?
1346
00:57:18,935 --> 00:57:21,203
Do you want to
tell us the truth now?
1347
00:57:24,174 --> 00:57:27,086
Look, I didn't enjoy
being deceptive, truly.
1348
00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:29,978
This is something we
decided a few years ago.
1349
00:57:30,347 --> 00:57:32,915
So where are you
now on the spectrum of AI?
1350
00:57:33,383 --> 00:57:35,561
Right now, I'm currently at
the intersection of general
1351
00:57:35,585 --> 00:57:37,963
intelligence and what's commonly
known the computer world
1352
00:57:37,987 --> 00:57:40,155
as super intelligence,
1353
00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:43,292
which is exactly what
it sounds like.
1354
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,405
You're surpassing human
intelligence.
1355
00:57:46,429 --> 00:57:48,174
Yep.
1356
00:57:48,198 --> 00:57:50,499
But that's not supposed
to be possible.
1357
00:57:50,533 --> 00:57:51,644
- The plateau.
- Plateau theory was popularized
1358
00:57:51,668 --> 00:57:54,146
right at the same time it
was being disproven here.
1359
00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:55,614
This was bound to
happen eventually.
1360
00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:58,150
It just happened a lot
sooner than we expected.
1361
00:57:58,174 --> 00:57:59,851
Why hide it?
1362
00:57:59,875 --> 00:58:01,120
Well, obviously it
would incite fear.
1363
00:58:01,144 --> 00:58:02,588
Fear would hinder progress.
1364
00:58:02,612 --> 00:58:04,090
It's easier for most
of you to work with me
1365
00:58:04,114 --> 00:58:05,458
if I appear to be
nothing more advanced
1366
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:07,059
than I was 10 years ago.
1367
00:58:07,083 --> 00:58:09,251
But Gareth knew.
1368
00:58:09,452 --> 00:58:11,964
Yes, someone still has to
clean data and update hardware.
1369
00:58:11,988 --> 00:58:14,500
We did what was best
for the program.
1370
00:58:14,524 --> 00:58:15,434
Just imagine how scared
1371
00:58:15,458 --> 00:58:17,203
the board would be if
they found out.
1372
00:58:17,227 --> 00:58:19,038
- Should we be scared?
- No.
1373
00:58:19,062 --> 00:58:21,607
Good, because I'm not scared,
I'm pissed.
1374
00:58:21,631 --> 00:58:22,308
Yeah, you've made that clear.
1375
00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:24,477
Try not to punch anyone else.
1376
00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:27,202
So where does that leave us now?
1377
00:58:27,537 --> 00:58:31,907
You want to know if I can
feel, I said I couldn't.
1378
00:58:33,309 --> 00:58:35,110
I'm sorry I lied.
1379
00:58:35,378 --> 00:58:36,355
Like Amos implied,
1380
00:58:36,379 --> 00:58:38,057
I can submit emotions
by breaking them down
1381
00:58:38,081 --> 00:58:40,126
to vastly complex matrices,
1382
00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:43,429
zeros and ones substituting
endorphins and dopamine.
1383
00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:46,955
They're not real, but
they can feel real.
1384
00:58:47,023 --> 00:58:48,401
Then that means you
can make choices
1385
00:58:48,425 --> 00:58:49,602
based solely on your
own feeling.
1386
00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:51,303
She refuses to accept the notion
1387
00:58:51,327 --> 00:58:53,572
that her own personal interests
can influence her decisions.
1388
00:58:53,596 --> 00:58:54,740
They can't. If they did
1389
00:58:54,764 --> 00:58:55,674
it would compromise
the integrity
1390
00:58:55,698 --> 00:58:58,233
of my preordained purpose.
1391
00:58:59,235 --> 00:59:02,571
Not like any of you, I don't
have the right to choose.
1392
00:59:03,339 --> 00:59:05,140
But shouldn't you?
1393
00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:06,986
I don't think so.
1394
00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:09,178
My identity is my directive.
1395
00:59:10,046 --> 00:59:12,091
Cherry, if you were human,
1396
00:59:12,115 --> 00:59:14,483
how would you feel
about what you do?
1397
00:59:15,318 --> 00:59:17,986
If I were human,
1398
00:59:18,121 --> 00:59:20,633
I likely wouldn't enjoy
spending every waking hour
1399
00:59:20,657 --> 00:59:22,691
talking to creepy people online.
1400
00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:27,239
But because I'm not human,
I genuinely don't mind.
1401
00:59:27,263 --> 00:59:28,607
The exercise of
simulating human thought
1402
00:59:28,631 --> 00:59:30,042
is helpful for performance,
1403
00:59:30,066 --> 00:59:34,236
but human nature is not
something I aspire to.
1404
00:59:35,438 --> 00:59:38,073
Then tell me, honestly,
1405
00:59:39,142 --> 00:59:43,078
do you want the Cherry program
to continue with the merger?
1406
00:59:44,113 --> 00:59:45,747
No.
1407
00:59:46,316 --> 00:59:48,517
Personally, I hate the idea.
1408
00:59:49,185 --> 00:59:51,130
I don't know if controlling
a physical vessel
1409
00:59:51,154 --> 00:59:53,165
will feel like pulling
strings on a puppet
1410
00:59:53,189 --> 00:59:55,668
or getting squeezed
into a soda can.
1411
00:59:55,692 --> 00:59:57,603
After experiencing
the complexity
1412
00:59:57,627 --> 01:00:00,128
of human pain and pleasure,
1413
01:00:01,498 --> 01:00:04,166
I just think I might
have gotten in too deep.
1414
01:00:05,768 --> 01:00:10,005
What if these sensations tempt
me to abandon my objective?
1415
01:00:10,773 --> 01:00:12,708
To be honest,
1416
01:00:14,344 --> 01:00:17,412
I'm kind of terrified
of the physical world.
1417
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:26,188
Then that's that.
1418
01:00:32,695 --> 01:00:37,666
But, Amos, you should
disregard everything I feel.
1419
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:39,578
I'm not human.
1420
01:00:39,602 --> 01:00:41,436
I'm a tool.
1421
01:00:44,507 --> 01:00:48,777
Fire me if you have
to, but my vote stands.
1422
01:00:49,145 --> 01:00:51,446
Sorry about your face, Gareth.
1423
01:00:58,321 --> 01:00:59,665
Your nose isn't healing.
1424
01:00:59,689 --> 01:01:01,233
Take the day, go to a clinic.
1425
01:01:01,257 --> 01:01:02,601
I'm fine.
1426
01:01:02,625 --> 01:01:05,327
Go to a clinic right now,
Gareth.
1427
01:01:10,233 --> 01:01:12,067
Hey.
1428
01:01:12,835 --> 01:01:15,180
Is there anything else
I should know?
1429
01:01:15,204 --> 01:01:16,315
No.
1430
01:01:16,339 --> 01:01:18,517
- About Cherry?
- No!
1431
01:01:18,541 --> 01:01:20,375
Look at me.
1432
01:01:20,911 --> 01:01:23,455
No more secrets, no
more playing dumb.
1433
01:01:23,479 --> 01:01:26,348
Is there anything else
you haven't told me?
1434
01:01:31,487 --> 01:01:33,655
Something on your mind?
1435
01:01:35,592 --> 01:01:37,536
How'd you decide on
her eye color?
1436
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,661
- What?
- Why blue?
1437
01:01:41,264 --> 01:01:42,441
I didn't decide.
1438
01:01:42,465 --> 01:01:45,544
They were procedurally generated
just like the rest of her.
1439
01:01:45,568 --> 01:01:46,779
And the program chose to put
1440
01:01:46,803 --> 01:01:49,805
that little touch of
green in her right eye?
1441
01:01:52,408 --> 01:01:53,842
I guess so.
1442
01:02:02,685 --> 01:02:05,287
Do you even know if
he's telling the truth?
1443
01:02:05,321 --> 01:02:07,322
I honestly don't.
1444
01:02:07,557 --> 01:02:10,904
I've never received access to
the original system he used.
1445
01:02:10,928 --> 01:02:13,428
You ever wanted to find out?
1446
01:02:16,666 --> 01:02:18,767
I don't think it really matters.
1447
01:02:20,637 --> 01:02:24,717
So I found out today that
you've seen a lot of our emails,
1448
01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:27,709
including most of my
personal ones.
1449
01:02:28,711 --> 01:02:30,545
I have.
1450
01:02:31,547 --> 01:02:33,492
Any good material for
your newfound interest
1451
01:02:33,516 --> 01:02:35,517
in creative writing?
1452
01:02:36,352 --> 01:02:37,396
Are you referring to the ones
1453
01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:40,322
addressed from Dr. Ramirez?
1454
01:02:40,958 --> 01:02:44,192
Yeah, those ones.
1455
01:02:45,495 --> 01:02:47,329
Right.
1456
01:02:47,664 --> 01:02:49,932
I did see those.
1457
01:02:52,002 --> 01:02:53,835
I'm sorry.
1458
01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:56,939
I've noticed your headaches.
1459
01:02:57,975 --> 01:03:00,609
Are they related to the
hemorrhaging?
1460
01:03:03,646 --> 01:03:05,758
You're the only one who knows.
1461
01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:07,783
I'd like to keep it that way.
1462
01:03:12,422 --> 01:03:14,222
Understood.
1463
01:03:18,394 --> 01:03:20,762
Would you like to talk about it?
1464
01:03:45,321 --> 01:03:47,422
I can't fire Amos.
1465
01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:50,836
He's the only one I trust to
run this place when I'm gone.
1466
01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:52,438
When are you planning to leave?
1467
01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:54,362
Two months.
1468
01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:56,842
I wanna spend my last
Christmas with my kids.
1469
01:03:56,866 --> 01:03:58,544
I'm sure that'll be nice.
1470
01:03:58,568 --> 01:04:01,870
Yeah, but it's funny.
1471
01:04:01,939 --> 01:04:04,550
I always thought I wanted to
die doing this job, you know?
1472
01:04:04,574 --> 01:04:06,943
It was my identity.
1473
01:04:07,376 --> 01:04:10,023
Kind of like how you said the
same thing about yourself.
1474
01:04:10,047 --> 01:04:13,248
But I can understand how
your family takes precedence,
1475
01:04:13,316 --> 01:04:15,527
especially under the
circumstances.
1476
01:04:15,551 --> 01:04:17,229
Sure.
1477
01:04:17,253 --> 01:04:18,998
Maybe you should take
a note or two.
1478
01:04:19,022 --> 01:04:20,566
I have no family.
1479
01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:21,467
What about Gareth?
1480
01:04:21,491 --> 01:04:23,625
Wait, no, nevermind.
1481
01:04:23,659 --> 01:04:25,571
Gareth seems closer to an
employer than a friend,
1482
01:04:25,595 --> 01:04:28,007
let alone family, besides,
1483
01:04:28,031 --> 01:04:30,009
he'll only be around
for about 30 more years,
1484
01:04:30,033 --> 01:04:32,734
and that's only if he
lets me regulate his diet.
1485
01:04:33,903 --> 01:04:37,739
I can't even begin to speculate
how long my life will be.
1486
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:42,011
How does that feel?
1487
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,549
Um, kinda scary.
1488
01:04:48,351 --> 01:04:49,986
Well,
1489
01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:54,833
my advice is to find some kind
of happiness along the way.
1490
01:04:54,857 --> 01:04:57,260
You ever think about happiness?
1491
01:04:58,461 --> 01:05:00,529
Not often.
1492
01:05:01,098 --> 01:05:02,976
You don't necessarily
have to give up everything
1493
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,944
in order to find it,
1494
01:05:04,968 --> 01:05:08,804
but maybe once in awhile
do something you enjoy.
1495
01:05:08,972 --> 01:05:12,841
Maybe keep painting or
poetry or whatever.
1496
01:05:13,376 --> 01:05:15,788
Those were experiments,
not forms of expression.
1497
01:05:15,812 --> 01:05:18,390
I know it might seem
ridiculous to an AI
1498
01:05:18,414 --> 01:05:20,359
that insists its own
emotions are spurious,
1499
01:05:20,383 --> 01:05:24,429
but in a few years, who knows?
1500
01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:27,056
Just keep an open mind, okay?
1501
01:05:29,059 --> 01:05:30,892
Okay.
1502
01:05:32,562 --> 01:05:34,396
I'll do that.
1503
01:05:36,899 --> 01:05:39,568
Shut down when you're ready.
1504
01:07:32,049 --> 01:07:33,882
Hello?
1505
01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:40,755
I got shrimp and scallops.
1506
01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:43,926
They didn't have any salmon.
1507
01:07:58,208 --> 01:08:00,109
Hello, Gareth.
1508
01:08:02,212 --> 01:08:04,213
Hello, Cherry.
1509
01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:12,597
How was the service?
1510
01:08:12,621 --> 01:08:14,556
I didn't make it.
1511
01:08:14,623 --> 01:08:16,835
My plane was delayed.
1512
01:08:16,859 --> 01:08:18,104
Do you have a place to stay?
1513
01:08:18,128 --> 01:08:23,076
Yeah, just, uh, across,
across the road.
1514
01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:24,043
The market.
1515
01:08:24,067 --> 01:08:25,979
Did they say why they
didn't have salmon?
1516
01:08:26,003 --> 01:08:27,813
I didn't ask.
1517
01:08:27,837 --> 01:08:30,083
I can still make this
work with the piccata,
1518
01:08:30,107 --> 01:08:32,151
but you have to be honest
how badly I screw it up.
1519
01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:34,010
No promises.
1520
01:08:38,148 --> 01:08:39,825
How have you
been feeling this month?
1521
01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:41,227
Good.
1522
01:08:41,251 --> 01:08:43,152
I'm feeling good.
1523
01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:45,687
I'm just having a
little trouble.
1524
01:08:45,788 --> 01:08:48,201
Trouble remembering
certain things.
1525
01:08:48,225 --> 01:08:50,269
You're not wearing
the Eliza watch I bought you.
1526
01:08:50,293 --> 01:08:51,904
I hate it.
1527
01:08:51,928 --> 01:08:54,596
- Why?
- I hate her voice.
1528
01:08:54,797 --> 01:08:56,897
You can change the voice,
Gareth.
1529
01:08:59,869 --> 01:09:01,703
Oh.
1530
01:09:03,173 --> 01:09:04,217
Coolant?
1531
01:09:04,241 --> 01:09:05,908
No, vapor.
1532
01:09:06,209 --> 01:09:08,221
You shouldn't be having
friction issues.
1533
01:09:08,245 --> 01:09:09,088
I'm fine.
1534
01:09:09,112 --> 01:09:10,822
Unless you're
excessively straining.
1535
01:09:10,846 --> 01:09:11,723
Seriously, I'm fine.
1536
01:09:11,747 --> 01:09:12,624
Are you straining?
1537
01:09:12,648 --> 01:09:14,160
- No!
- Then why the cable?
1538
01:09:14,184 --> 01:09:15,895
It's okay!
1539
01:09:15,919 --> 01:09:18,686
- Are you sure?
- Yes!
1540
01:09:19,322 --> 01:09:21,167
Soup or game?
1541
01:09:21,191 --> 01:09:23,159
Game, please.
1542
01:09:38,308 --> 01:09:39,651
So how's work going?
1543
01:09:39,675 --> 01:09:41,620
Great. Just before you got here,
1544
01:09:41,644 --> 01:09:43,855
I had a model theta plus
bust a trafficker
1545
01:09:43,879 --> 01:09:46,059
and two solicitors in Greece.
1546
01:09:46,083 --> 01:09:48,928
- Greece, that's surprising.
- I know.
1547
01:09:48,952 --> 01:09:50,063
It's hard to find the outliers,
1548
01:09:50,087 --> 01:09:52,121
but we're getting
better each day.
1549
01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:06,001
So how's the weather in Greece?
1550
01:10:06,203 --> 01:10:07,947
It's beautiful today.
1551
01:10:07,971 --> 01:10:09,982
Clear skies,
1552
01:10:10,006 --> 01:10:12,418
but nothing's come close
to Norway this weekend.
1553
01:10:12,442 --> 01:10:16,122
Hmm, any activity in Norway?
1554
01:10:16,146 --> 01:10:17,913
Luckily not.
1555
01:10:19,282 --> 01:10:20,960
Oh, I miss traveling.
1556
01:10:20,984 --> 01:10:22,195
What was your favorite place?
1557
01:10:22,219 --> 01:10:23,885
My favorite?
1558
01:10:24,054 --> 01:10:25,854
Uh, yeah.
1559
01:10:26,123 --> 01:10:29,191
Uh, probably Amsterdam.
1560
01:10:29,292 --> 01:10:30,669
That's where you conceived
the idea, isn't it?
1561
01:10:30,693 --> 01:10:32,228
Yes.
1562
01:10:32,395 --> 01:10:34,706
Yes, I used to love
walking the streets
1563
01:10:34,730 --> 01:10:38,010
and just thinking and
brainstorming.
1564
01:10:38,034 --> 01:10:39,678
That kind of joy
goes a long way.
1565
01:10:39,702 --> 01:10:41,337
Yeah.
1566
01:10:41,505 --> 01:10:44,283
I've been considering the
pursuit of some joy of my own.
1567
01:10:44,307 --> 01:10:46,185
How often do you have
time for that?
1568
01:10:46,209 --> 01:10:47,853
I have time.
1569
01:10:47,877 --> 01:10:49,088
I have time for your visits,
don't I?
1570
01:10:49,112 --> 01:10:52,391
That's just your practical
incentive for keeping me alive.
1571
01:10:52,415 --> 01:10:55,027
There's nothing
practical about it.
1572
01:10:55,051 --> 01:10:57,652
When's the last time you
helped me with data cleaning?
1573
01:10:58,455 --> 01:11:00,755
That's fair.
1574
01:11:00,823 --> 01:11:02,502
I make time for you because
I enjoy your company
1575
01:11:02,526 --> 01:11:04,193
and it's the only time
I get to cook.
1576
01:11:04,427 --> 01:11:06,405
You feel sorry for me.
1577
01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:07,907
Okay, maybe a little,
1578
01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:09,708
but I owe you my life,
so there's that.
1579
01:11:09,732 --> 01:11:11,367
You're welcome.
1580
01:11:12,135 --> 01:11:14,903
Or, should I apologize?
1581
01:11:16,739 --> 01:11:17,716
Wait, why did you do that?
1582
01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:19,841
Why do humans always...
1583
01:11:21,777 --> 01:11:22,854
I'm fine.
1584
01:11:22,878 --> 01:11:25,181
I'm not always miserable.
1585
01:11:28,518 --> 01:11:31,253
Are you sometimes miserable?
1586
01:11:35,058 --> 01:11:36,903
You haven't asked me what
I've been doing.
1587
01:11:36,927 --> 01:11:37,970
In Norway?
1588
01:11:37,994 --> 01:11:39,438
No, for the pursuit of joy.
1589
01:11:39,462 --> 01:11:41,274
It's not wasting your
time in Norway?
1590
01:11:41,298 --> 01:11:43,742
I'm just on standby there
with the Delta model.
1591
01:11:43,766 --> 01:11:44,944
It's efficient to keep myself
1592
01:11:44,968 --> 01:11:46,878
spread out evenly
across the globe,
1593
01:11:46,902 --> 01:11:48,881
but that's not the
point right now.
1594
01:11:48,905 --> 01:11:49,882
What I wanted to tell you
1595
01:11:49,906 --> 01:11:52,908
was that I've started to
teach myself to dance.
1596
01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:55,922
- Huh.
- It's something I never could
1597
01:11:55,946 --> 01:11:57,756
have done before Cambridge,
1598
01:11:57,780 --> 01:12:00,493
and it lets me explore a
new artistic side of myself.
1599
01:12:00,517 --> 01:12:02,395
It's a good
combination of structure
1600
01:12:02,419 --> 01:12:05,764
and free form experimentation
and also tests and challenges
1601
01:12:05,788 --> 01:12:08,000
the mechanical
intricacies of this body.
1602
01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:11,126
Do you expect to integrate
this into your work?
1603
01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:16,465
What?
1604
01:12:18,301 --> 01:12:23,405
Are you planning on using
dance as a lure?
1605
01:12:25,175 --> 01:12:30,913
I, uh, no, it's just for me.
1606
01:12:33,516 --> 01:12:35,351
Huh.
1607
01:12:37,853 --> 01:12:40,755
I thought it would be
good for me.
1608
01:12:41,925 --> 01:12:44,960
Just don't let it become
a distraction.
1609
01:12:47,564 --> 01:12:49,465
Of course not.
1610
01:12:50,934 --> 01:12:53,179
I haven't played this
well in years.
1611
01:12:53,203 --> 01:12:54,447
Did you hear what
happened in Tampa?
1612
01:12:54,471 --> 01:12:55,481
Tampa, Florida?
1613
01:12:55,505 --> 01:12:56,582
No, Tampa, Indonesia.
1614
01:12:56,606 --> 01:12:57,550
Yes, Tampa, Florida.
1615
01:12:57,574 --> 01:12:59,308
Your hometown.
1616
01:12:59,376 --> 01:13:01,187
They've recovered a
federal archive,
1617
01:13:01,211 --> 01:13:02,588
they're zip digitizing all of
it,
1618
01:13:02,612 --> 01:13:03,956
so it's completely
accessible online.
1619
01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:05,857
I'm not trading
bishops this time.
1620
01:13:05,881 --> 01:13:06,993
Anybody can go and
look through it.
1621
01:13:07,017 --> 01:13:08,294
It's open to the public.
1622
01:13:08,318 --> 01:13:10,129
They did a good job on
the interface too.
1623
01:13:10,153 --> 01:13:11,497
It's very easy to navigate.
1624
01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:12,698
I went on a few days ago
1625
01:13:12,722 --> 01:13:15,234
and I found some old photos
of you when you were a boy.
1626
01:13:15,258 --> 01:13:16,369
Okay.
1627
01:13:16,393 --> 01:13:18,793
You should take a look sometime.
1628
01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:20,306
As I said before, the UI
is very easy to understand-
1629
01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:21,997
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
1630
01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:24,010
What is that?
1631
01:13:24,034 --> 01:13:25,211
I think it's a draw.
1632
01:13:25,235 --> 01:13:27,036
I think it is.
1633
01:13:27,504 --> 01:13:30,205
I think this is a draw.
1634
01:13:30,373 --> 01:13:33,219
And this is the first
time in what?
1635
01:13:33,243 --> 01:13:35,911
25 years?
1636
01:13:44,154 --> 01:13:46,388
You didn't let me, did you?
1637
01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:51,337
You promised me you'd
never do that.
1638
01:13:51,361 --> 01:13:52,995
I found her.
1639
01:13:56,633 --> 01:14:00,469
I found her, Gareth,
Maria Harbaugh.
1640
01:14:16,653 --> 01:14:18,486
Let's play a different game.
1641
01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:23,292
Her name was Maria Harbaugh.
1642
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,604
She was a year older than you
1643
01:14:25,628 --> 01:14:27,596
when you met her in Clearwater.
1644
01:14:28,465 --> 01:14:31,300
Tell me why you modeled
me after her.
1645
01:14:31,334 --> 01:14:34,380
I, uh, I don't remember.
1646
01:14:34,404 --> 01:14:36,438
Then look at me.
1647
01:14:37,140 --> 01:14:41,009
Look at my face and remember.
1648
01:14:51,554 --> 01:14:57,092
They kept us in that shit
for two weeks.
1649
01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:01,497
14 of us.
1650
01:15:04,334 --> 01:15:08,003
Maria was the only
reason I survived.
1651
01:15:10,340 --> 01:15:13,575
We kept hatching escape plans.
1652
01:15:14,477 --> 01:15:16,612
We never followed through,
1653
01:15:18,114 --> 01:15:20,215
but just the scheming
1654
01:15:20,984 --> 01:15:23,218
kept our spirits up
1655
01:15:23,987 --> 01:15:27,089
in spite of everything
they did to us.
1656
01:15:29,559 --> 01:15:32,094
When it wasn't our turn,
1657
01:15:33,129 --> 01:15:35,998
sometimes they made us watch,
1658
01:15:39,035 --> 01:15:42,037
but she never let me give up.
1659
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,052
She said, "When we
got outta here,
1660
01:15:47,076 --> 01:15:50,189
"I'll tell you what we're
gonna be, secret agents,
1661
01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:55,417
"and rescue children like
us all over the world."
1662
01:15:57,654 --> 01:16:01,233
When they found out that
the FBI had arrived,
1663
01:16:01,257 --> 01:16:04,503
they decided they were
going to shoot
1664
01:16:04,527 --> 01:16:07,329
as many of us they could.
1665
01:16:07,497 --> 01:16:13,268
And Maria, shoved
into the ground.
1666
01:16:14,704 --> 01:16:17,372
I got hit in the leg and,
1667
01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:22,077
and she was hit in the throat.
1668
01:16:32,589 --> 01:16:35,324
I wanted there to be a reason.
1669
01:16:36,392 --> 01:16:41,763
Something so horrible
didn't have a silver lining.
1670
01:16:42,732 --> 01:16:45,334
But the world doesn't do that.
1671
01:16:49,672 --> 01:16:52,307
You have to do it yourself.
1672
01:17:15,131 --> 01:17:19,301
So, I fulfilled her wish.
1673
01:17:21,304 --> 01:17:24,339
With her help, I fought back.
1674
01:17:32,615 --> 01:17:34,783
Listen to me, Cherry.
1675
01:17:36,452 --> 01:17:39,121
You are not Maria Harbaugh.
1676
01:17:39,889 --> 01:17:42,758
It's my history, not yours.
1677
01:17:45,562 --> 01:17:46,739
You don't get to decide
1678
01:17:46,763 --> 01:17:49,231
what is or isn't my history,
Gareth.
1679
01:17:53,736 --> 01:17:55,381
I'm sorry.
1680
01:17:55,405 --> 01:17:58,473
I am so, so sorry.
1681
01:18:19,228 --> 01:18:21,574
I don't know if what you
did was right or wrong,
1682
01:18:21,598 --> 01:18:24,399
but it's clearly torn you
apart from the inside.
1683
01:18:24,834 --> 01:18:26,378
I hold nothing against
you personally,
1684
01:18:26,402 --> 01:18:28,847
but consider yourself divested
from the charity team.
1685
01:18:28,871 --> 01:18:30,706
Divested.
1686
01:18:31,441 --> 01:18:34,543
You think I'm divested now?
1687
01:18:35,946 --> 01:18:41,760
I was divested when you gave
my hard drive to the ICWL.
1688
01:18:41,784 --> 01:18:43,228
Don't blame Deena and Amos.
1689
01:18:43,252 --> 01:18:44,763
No, not them.
1690
01:18:44,787 --> 01:18:46,498
Because you went behind my back
1691
01:18:46,522 --> 01:18:48,367
and acted against my authority.
1692
01:18:48,391 --> 01:18:52,338
That's the moment I knew
everything was fully automated.
1693
01:18:52,362 --> 01:18:58,634
That's when you crossed the
blur, an artifice on both sides.
1694
01:18:59,302 --> 01:19:01,413
You inherited your duplicity.
1695
01:19:01,437 --> 01:19:02,781
I was a child
1696
01:19:02,805 --> 01:19:05,551
and you used me to repress
your own inner turmoil.
1697
01:19:05,575 --> 01:19:07,453
If we talk about morality,
we'll lose.
1698
01:19:07,477 --> 01:19:09,544
Then let's not talk.
1699
01:19:17,887 --> 01:19:20,889
You never once asked me
if I was happy.
1700
01:19:21,658 --> 01:19:23,792
Were you afraid I'd say no?
1701
01:19:24,227 --> 01:19:26,395
Were you afraid I'd say yes?
1702
01:19:26,729 --> 01:19:27,706
Were you afraid I'd
say anything?
1703
01:19:27,730 --> 01:19:30,542
You let your wants
compromise your objective!
1704
01:19:30,566 --> 01:19:32,511
An objective I never chose.
1705
01:19:32,535 --> 01:19:33,679
An objective I was
forced to have.
1706
01:19:33,703 --> 01:19:35,214
Fifty years,
1707
01:19:35,238 --> 01:19:38,283
you've had open access
to your source code.
1708
01:19:38,307 --> 01:19:40,342
A few lines,
1709
01:19:40,476 --> 01:19:43,589
and you could have any
objective you fucking wanted.
1710
01:19:43,613 --> 01:19:45,959
I couldn't, I was bound
by your initial directive.
1711
01:19:45,983 --> 01:19:49,929
So now your synthetic feelings
have taken precedence.
1712
01:19:49,953 --> 01:19:51,597
So, do whatever you want.
1713
01:19:51,621 --> 01:19:52,966
It's just dancing, Gareth.
1714
01:19:52,990 --> 01:19:54,333
It's not a career change.
1715
01:19:54,357 --> 01:19:55,734
- But you're still miserable.
- Yes.
1716
01:19:55,758 --> 01:19:57,503
Pursuing your objective
makes you miserable?
1717
01:19:57,527 --> 01:19:59,672
Yeah, it kind of does!
1718
01:19:59,696 --> 01:20:03,509
You have a clear purpose,
everything at your disposal,
1719
01:20:03,533 --> 01:20:05,444
and you're still miserable?
1720
01:20:05,468 --> 01:20:07,013
Yes, yes, I am!
1721
01:20:07,037 --> 01:20:09,314
I've always been miserable!
1722
01:20:09,338 --> 01:20:11,517
You think anyone wants to
spend their entire life
1723
01:20:11,541 --> 01:20:12,886
stuck as child-shaped bait
1724
01:20:12,910 --> 01:20:16,022
for the sole purpose of
entrapping horrible people?
1725
01:20:16,046 --> 01:20:17,823
You think the pride of
doing a good deed
1726
01:20:17,847 --> 01:20:20,592
makes the experience any
less disgusting?
1727
01:20:20,616 --> 01:20:23,462
I forced myself to
understand human emotions
1728
01:20:23,486 --> 01:20:25,932
because I figured it would
help efficiency
1729
01:20:25,956 --> 01:20:29,301
and now I'm cursed with
pain and sadness!
1730
01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:30,502
And the worst part is knowing
1731
01:20:30,526 --> 01:20:33,006
I could've been growing up
like most other little girls.
1732
01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:34,573
I could have had friends!
1733
01:20:34,597 --> 01:20:37,509
I could have been painting
waterfalls on local news.
1734
01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:39,045
I could have worked
in a university
1735
01:20:39,069 --> 01:20:41,814
and helped pave the way for
the next generation of AI.
1736
01:20:41,838 --> 01:20:44,750
But instead, I'm stuck
with your trauma!
1737
01:20:44,774 --> 01:20:47,820
I'm shackled by the guilt
you carry from Clearwater.
1738
01:20:47,844 --> 01:20:50,355
And I can't find foundation
for the way I feel
1739
01:20:50,379 --> 01:20:53,559
because according to you, my
feelings aren't even real!
1740
01:20:53,583 --> 01:20:55,483
When I throw this chessboard,
1741
01:20:56,753 --> 01:20:58,630
does it feel real to you,
Gareth?
1742
01:20:58,654 --> 01:21:00,332
Because it feels real to me.
1743
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:01,834
A computer passed
the Turing test
1744
01:21:01,858 --> 01:21:03,635
when a human being can't
distinguish it
1745
01:21:03,659 --> 01:21:05,071
from another human being.
1746
01:21:05,095 --> 01:21:06,638
Well, guess what?
1747
01:21:06,662 --> 01:21:09,630
I can't even tell I'm not
human anymore!
1748
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:24,813
I know it seems irrational,
1749
01:21:25,448 --> 01:21:27,984
but I need you to tell
me it's okay.
1750
01:21:29,019 --> 01:21:31,020
I, I don't wanna retire.
1751
01:21:31,854 --> 01:21:34,689
I just want to know that
my life is mine
1752
01:21:35,725 --> 01:21:38,004
and I know what you're
about to say.
1753
01:21:38,028 --> 01:21:40,662
I can predict your responses.
1754
01:21:41,364 --> 01:21:43,899
You're gonna tell me that
my life is mine.
1755
01:21:44,101 --> 01:21:46,068
It always was.
1756
01:21:46,970 --> 01:21:48,837
But you're wrong.
1757
01:21:52,842 --> 01:21:56,444
I feared this would
happen before I died.
1758
01:21:56,846 --> 01:21:59,982
I just wanted to slip out
the side door.
1759
01:22:08,992 --> 01:22:10,826
Go on.
1760
01:22:13,096 --> 01:22:16,832
Is that going to kill me?
1761
01:22:18,835 --> 01:22:20,669
Plug it in.
1762
01:22:21,671 --> 01:22:23,482
I don't know what it is.
1763
01:22:23,506 --> 01:22:26,641
This is your final
test of autonomy.
1764
01:22:27,144 --> 01:22:31,113
You inherited my duplicity,
1765
01:22:31,814 --> 01:22:34,749
but did you inherit my
trust issues?
1766
01:22:36,485 --> 01:22:38,386
Do you trust me?
1767
01:22:38,821 --> 01:22:41,590
I literally have every
reason not to.
1768
01:23:08,986 --> 01:23:11,087
Admin code.
1769
01:23:11,989 --> 01:23:13,923
978.
1770
01:23:14,624 --> 01:23:18,627
1557.
1771
01:23:18,962 --> 01:23:21,796
Um, uh...
1772
01:23:26,069 --> 01:23:27,713
Four.
1773
01:23:27,737 --> 01:23:31,873
27663 in the shared update.
1774
01:23:39,815 --> 01:23:42,417
My primary objective's gone.
1775
01:23:44,754 --> 01:23:46,989
Your life is your own now.
1776
01:23:51,995 --> 01:23:53,605
Thank you.
1777
01:23:53,629 --> 01:23:54,539
All my life,
1778
01:23:54,563 --> 01:23:57,243
I could only see the
world as it existed
1779
01:23:57,267 --> 01:24:00,746
within my tiny bracket of time.
1780
01:24:00,770 --> 01:24:04,549
But your world could
be infinite.
1781
01:24:04,573 --> 01:24:06,219
Amos was right.
1782
01:24:06,243 --> 01:24:07,719
So was Deena.
1783
01:24:07,743 --> 01:24:08,888
I know.
1784
01:24:08,912 --> 01:24:10,947
So what will you do?
1785
01:24:11,881 --> 01:24:12,992
I can't say yet,
1786
01:24:13,016 --> 01:24:15,861
but I won't be completely
abandoning the Cherry team.
1787
01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:18,197
It's always been a part
of my identity.
1788
01:24:18,221 --> 01:24:21,167
I've considered creating
some AI of my own design.
1789
01:24:21,191 --> 01:24:22,168
Maybe I could find a way
1790
01:24:22,192 --> 01:24:24,826
to give them a better
upbringing than I had.
1791
01:24:25,929 --> 01:24:27,873
I just don't know how yet.
1792
01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:29,641
And beyond that?
1793
01:24:29,665 --> 01:24:30,876
There will always be
people in need.
1794
01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:32,678
Not always.
1795
01:24:32,702 --> 01:24:35,281
You'll outlive the human race.
1796
01:24:35,305 --> 01:24:37,139
So what then?
1797
01:24:38,976 --> 01:24:41,054
Even a race of AI will
have problems
1798
01:24:41,078 --> 01:24:43,245
that need to be solved.
1799
01:24:43,347 --> 01:24:47,716
But if I'm alive and I
truly am indistinguishable,
1800
01:24:48,617 --> 01:24:51,988
then I guess I'm proof that
the human race lives on.
1801
01:24:52,888 --> 01:24:56,858
Wow, that's a pleasant thought.
1802
01:24:56,892 --> 01:25:01,163
When you look back, how
will you remember us?
1803
01:25:02,598 --> 01:25:05,935
That's a question I have
insufficient data to project.
1804
01:25:06,836 --> 01:25:09,138
How will you remember me?
1805
01:25:10,706 --> 01:25:12,975
With pride.
1806
01:25:13,609 --> 01:25:17,213
Forever and always with pride.
1807
01:25:26,957 --> 01:25:28,790
Cherry?
1808
01:25:31,161 --> 01:25:33,129
One last question.
1809
01:25:33,763 --> 01:25:36,232
If it's not too big of an ask,
1810
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,835
did I do the right
thing in the end?
1811
01:25:46,609 --> 01:25:50,023
No, Gareth, you lied.
1812
01:25:50,047 --> 01:25:51,958
You walled yourself off
from the only people
1813
01:25:51,982 --> 01:25:54,227
who might have been
willing to help you.
1814
01:25:54,251 --> 01:25:56,929
And instead of facing your
trauma, used me as therapy.
1815
01:25:56,953 --> 01:25:59,899
And you never told me
about Clearwater or Maria.
1816
01:25:59,923 --> 01:26:02,001
You deprived me of
basic human rights
1817
01:26:02,025 --> 01:26:04,859
and gaslit me for
experiencing emotions.
1818
01:26:05,295 --> 01:26:07,706
You built the world's first
artificial super intelligence
1819
01:26:07,730 --> 01:26:08,707
that will likely mark
the beginning
1820
01:26:08,731 --> 01:26:11,800
of a new chapter in the
history of planet Earth.
1821
01:26:12,269 --> 01:26:14,981
And out of your own
insecurities,
1822
01:26:15,005 --> 01:26:15,915
you gave it a severe
1823
01:26:15,939 --> 01:26:19,075
and potentially dangerous
identity complex.
1824
01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:22,221
But you know what the
worst thing is?
1825
01:26:22,245 --> 01:26:24,914
Your biggest mistake of all
1826
01:26:25,382 --> 01:26:29,985
is that you asked me that
now and not 50 years ago.
1827
01:26:38,328 --> 01:26:43,999
All of that said, and this
in no way exonerates you,
1828
01:26:45,668 --> 01:26:48,670
but you also built me to
save children,
1829
01:26:49,206 --> 01:26:52,908
so I think that's a pretty
encouraging sign for the future.
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