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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:02,892 --> 00:01:04,042 Hey, Siri. 2 00:01:05,994 --> 00:01:07,240 Send a message to Cheryl. 3 00:01:07,264 --> 00:01:08,897 Front reception. 4 00:01:10,666 --> 00:01:12,201 What do you want to say? 5 00:01:13,136 --> 00:01:15,949 Amos is already heading there to pick him up, period. 6 00:01:15,973 --> 00:01:19,075 Please forward any calls I get to Brady, period. 7 00:01:19,276 --> 00:01:21,120 Your message to Cheryl front reception 8 00:01:21,144 --> 00:01:23,622 says Amos is already heading there to pick him up. 9 00:01:23,646 --> 00:01:25,791 Please forward any calls I get to Brady. 10 00:01:25,815 --> 00:01:26,993 Ready to send it? 11 00:01:27,017 --> 00:01:28,850 Yes. 12 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:31,253 Okay, it's sent. 13 00:01:32,155 --> 00:01:34,056 Hey, Siri. 14 00:01:35,558 --> 00:01:38,194 How do you know if you're doing the right thing? 15 00:01:39,329 --> 00:01:41,696 I'm not sure I understand. 16 00:01:44,834 --> 00:01:45,711 But what do you believe 17 00:01:45,735 --> 00:01:48,737 is the difference between right and wrong? 18 00:01:49,839 --> 00:01:51,017 Hmm. 19 00:01:51,041 --> 00:01:52,885 I don't have an answer for that. 20 00:01:52,909 --> 00:01:55,177 Would you like me to search the web? 21 00:01:55,212 --> 00:01:57,013 No. 22 00:01:57,147 --> 00:02:00,648 Okay, is there something else I can help with? 23 00:02:09,092 --> 00:02:10,769 Set a reminder to pick up Kyle 24 00:02:10,793 --> 00:02:13,929 from therapy tomorrow at 4:45. 25 00:02:14,897 --> 00:02:17,532 Okay, I'll remind you. 26 00:02:38,221 --> 00:02:40,699 Hi, special agent Deena Helms. 27 00:02:40,723 --> 00:02:41,767 You've already met Agent McCullough. 28 00:02:41,791 --> 00:02:43,102 You can call me Amos. 29 00:02:43,126 --> 00:02:46,929 - Uh, agents? - Have a seat for us, Gareth. 30 00:02:48,697 --> 00:02:51,033 Do you mind answering a couple questions? 31 00:02:51,700 --> 00:02:54,769 Great, this shouldn't take long. 32 00:02:55,738 --> 00:02:58,873 You're from Tampa, right? 33 00:03:00,343 --> 00:03:02,877 Don't overthink it. It's a yes or no. 34 00:03:03,213 --> 00:03:04,390 Yeah. 35 00:03:04,414 --> 00:03:05,925 How old are you, Gareth? 36 00:03:05,949 --> 00:03:06,858 29. 37 00:03:06,882 --> 00:03:08,361 What do you do for work? 38 00:03:08,385 --> 00:03:09,861 I'm sorry, am I being detained? 39 00:03:09,885 --> 00:03:10,862 No, not at all. 40 00:03:10,886 --> 00:03:14,023 We're just asking questions, background stuff. 41 00:03:14,191 --> 00:03:16,235 You work on movies, right? 42 00:03:16,259 --> 00:03:18,127 Special effects. 43 00:03:18,694 --> 00:03:19,704 Someone told me you worked 44 00:03:19,728 --> 00:03:21,340 on that new "Star Wars" movie, is that right? 45 00:03:21,364 --> 00:03:22,808 Who told you that? 46 00:03:22,832 --> 00:03:24,676 Why don't you tell us more about it? 47 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:26,668 Tell us about your work. 48 00:03:28,105 --> 00:03:30,049 I used to do VFX for an animation company. 49 00:03:30,073 --> 00:03:31,117 I've worked on at least 20 different films. 50 00:03:31,141 --> 00:03:32,351 Used to? 51 00:03:32,375 --> 00:03:33,352 I've been focusing more 52 00:03:33,376 --> 00:03:34,987 on software engineering recently for years- 53 00:03:35,011 --> 00:03:36,755 Sounds boring compared to light sabers. 54 00:03:36,779 --> 00:03:37,957 Why quit? 55 00:03:37,981 --> 00:03:39,058 I wasn't getting paid well. 56 00:03:39,082 --> 00:03:40,293 But money's not an issue for you. 57 00:03:40,317 --> 00:03:41,227 Excuse me? 58 00:03:41,251 --> 00:03:42,395 What kind of effects did you do? 59 00:03:42,419 --> 00:03:43,463 Money's not an issue for me? 60 00:03:43,487 --> 00:03:44,397 -Let's talk about- -If money wasn't an issue for me 61 00:03:44,421 --> 00:03:45,231 I wouldn't have applied for your grant. 62 00:03:45,255 --> 00:03:47,923 I didn't mean to suggest anything. 63 00:03:48,191 --> 00:03:50,625 Tell us what kind of effects you did. 64 00:03:52,895 --> 00:03:54,340 My main focus was on 3D renderings. 65 00:03:54,364 --> 00:03:55,674 Of what? 66 00:03:55,698 --> 00:03:57,243 - Actors. - What for? 67 00:03:57,267 --> 00:03:58,244 Well, for "Star Wars," 68 00:03:58,268 --> 00:04:00,113 it was because the actor I was tasked to digitize 69 00:04:00,137 --> 00:04:02,215 was unavailable to be filmed in person. 70 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:03,872 Why? 71 00:04:04,274 --> 00:04:06,142 Because they were dead. 72 00:04:07,144 --> 00:04:09,044 What'd they have you do? 73 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:12,325 I reconstructed Alec Guinness' face as a 3D model. 74 00:04:12,349 --> 00:04:13,559 I analyzed reference footage, 75 00:04:13,583 --> 00:04:15,928 then used a process called D-Term to procedurally generate 76 00:04:15,952 --> 00:04:16,896 his bone and muscle structures, 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,431 which one rigged helped the animation feel 78 00:04:18,455 --> 00:04:19,432 more natural and human-like. 79 00:04:19,456 --> 00:04:22,068 D-Term, I've never heard of that process before. 80 00:04:22,092 --> 00:04:23,402 Because I invented it. 81 00:04:23,426 --> 00:04:24,370 So you're basically bringing 82 00:04:24,394 --> 00:04:25,371 dead actors back to life? 83 00:04:25,395 --> 00:04:27,206 I just tried to make the CG characters look as 84 00:04:27,230 --> 00:04:28,941 photorealistic as the technology at the time would allow. 85 00:04:28,965 --> 00:04:30,865 You didn't find it creepy? 86 00:04:30,901 --> 00:04:32,512 I'm sorry, what? 87 00:04:32,536 --> 00:04:34,736 I said you don't find that creepy? 88 00:04:36,239 --> 00:04:38,783 Well, we did our best to cross the uncanny valley. 89 00:04:38,807 --> 00:04:40,019 But when the human brain perceives 90 00:04:40,043 --> 00:04:41,454 that something is just slightly off and it doesn't matter- 91 00:04:41,478 --> 00:04:42,721 No, I mean, digitizing dead people. 92 00:04:42,745 --> 00:04:43,855 Christ, I mean, it's, 93 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:45,158 it's almost like turning someone's corpse 94 00:04:45,182 --> 00:04:46,292 into a marionette, you know? 95 00:04:46,316 --> 00:04:48,127 Making them do whatever you want. 96 00:04:48,151 --> 00:04:49,128 What if the poor dead guy 97 00:04:49,152 --> 00:04:51,763 didn't want to be in another fucking movie? 98 00:04:51,787 --> 00:04:53,065 It's so macabre. 99 00:04:53,089 --> 00:04:54,167 Am I crazy? Is it not macabre? 100 00:04:54,191 --> 00:04:55,268 I don't think the studio cares 101 00:04:55,292 --> 00:04:56,169 whether it's macabre or not. 102 00:04:56,193 --> 00:04:57,802 Look, I can never tell the difference. 103 00:04:57,826 --> 00:04:59,238 I always can. The faces look like Play-Doh. 104 00:04:59,262 --> 00:05:00,139 Well, we did our best. 105 00:05:00,163 --> 00:05:01,507 Soon we won't even need actors, right? 106 00:05:01,531 --> 00:05:03,009 Everyone will just be digital. 107 00:05:03,033 --> 00:05:04,776 No, you still need them for motion tracking. 108 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,811 Human performances can't be completely computer generated. 109 00:05:06,835 --> 00:05:08,870 How long will that be true? 110 00:05:12,008 --> 00:05:14,910 Some might say we've already crossed that threshold. 111 00:05:15,545 --> 00:05:17,479 I wouldn't know. 112 00:05:19,782 --> 00:05:20,960 Where'd you go to school? 113 00:05:20,984 --> 00:05:23,452 - Brooks-DeBartolo High. - And after? 114 00:05:24,354 --> 00:05:25,797 Nothing? 115 00:05:25,821 --> 00:05:26,499 What about Columbia? 116 00:05:26,523 --> 00:05:28,457 Didn't you go to Columbia? 117 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,337 Wait, no. You dropped out of Columbia 118 00:05:31,361 --> 00:05:34,207 after how many semesters? 119 00:05:34,231 --> 00:05:36,065 Three? 120 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:40,213 Bjarne Stroustrup said 121 00:05:40,237 --> 00:05:42,371 you were the smartest kid he ever met. 122 00:05:42,539 --> 00:05:46,774 I don't know who he is, but Amos says it's a big deal. 123 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:48,853 Then you moved to the Netherlands, 124 00:05:48,877 --> 00:05:51,057 spent some time as an intern, 125 00:05:51,081 --> 00:05:53,025 applied and got into Cambridge. 126 00:05:53,049 --> 00:05:54,026 Very nice. 127 00:05:54,050 --> 00:05:56,485 Except that you dropped out after two years. 128 00:05:56,553 --> 00:05:57,930 Flew back to the States, 129 00:05:57,954 --> 00:06:00,499 interned in Palo Alto, then Montreal. 130 00:06:00,523 --> 00:06:01,968 Then went all the way back to England, 131 00:06:01,992 --> 00:06:03,369 where you landed a job in Sheffield. 132 00:06:03,393 --> 00:06:05,571 Second job in Manchester. 133 00:06:05,595 --> 00:06:08,374 Then got into Oxford where you almost finished your masters 134 00:06:08,398 --> 00:06:09,808 before ditching the graduation 135 00:06:09,832 --> 00:06:12,201 and moving back here to Florida. 136 00:06:15,972 --> 00:06:18,073 If money was an issue, 137 00:06:18,975 --> 00:06:21,543 I'm glad you had plenty of flyer miles. 138 00:06:22,612 --> 00:06:24,980 I didn't hear a question. 139 00:06:25,115 --> 00:06:26,949 What's your social life like? 140 00:06:27,117 --> 00:06:28,961 My, what does that have anything to do- 141 00:06:28,985 --> 00:06:30,096 If you don't want to talk about it, that's fine. 142 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,564 We just wanted to know if you have friends and stuff. 143 00:06:31,588 --> 00:06:33,266 - I have friends. - A lot of them? 144 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:34,233 - I have friends. - Can you name one? 145 00:06:34,257 --> 00:06:35,601 - Can I what? - Can you tell us the nam 146 00:06:35,625 --> 00:06:37,869 of just one of your friends? 147 00:06:37,893 --> 00:06:39,972 - Steve. - Steve. Steve what? 148 00:06:39,996 --> 00:06:41,240 I don't know how this is relevant to receiving the grant. 149 00:06:41,264 --> 00:06:43,532 Oh, we're just getting to know you, Gareth. 150 00:06:43,566 --> 00:06:45,177 You got a girlfriend? 151 00:06:45,201 --> 00:06:46,612 Boyfriend? 152 00:06:46,636 --> 00:06:48,481 You, uh, talk to people online? 153 00:06:48,505 --> 00:06:49,582 I don't know what you mean by that. 154 00:06:49,606 --> 00:06:51,050 I don't use social media. 155 00:06:51,074 --> 00:06:53,142 I mean more like chat rooms. 156 00:06:57,047 --> 00:06:59,281 You go on any chat rooms? 157 00:07:03,186 --> 00:07:05,231 No one uses chat rooms anymore. 158 00:07:05,255 --> 00:07:06,989 Sure they do. 159 00:07:08,091 --> 00:07:10,092 You chat with anyone online? 160 00:07:11,894 --> 00:07:14,029 - Sometimes. - Sometimes. 161 00:07:14,431 --> 00:07:17,232 What kinds of people do you talk to online? 162 00:07:18,335 --> 00:07:23,405 Gareth, obviously, this isn't about a grant. 163 00:07:23,573 --> 00:07:25,941 We need to know what your alias is. 164 00:07:26,376 --> 00:07:28,321 When you go online, what name do you use? 165 00:07:28,345 --> 00:07:29,522 I don't have one. 166 00:07:29,546 --> 00:07:31,157 Yes, you do. 167 00:07:31,181 --> 00:07:33,248 And you need to tell us what it is. 168 00:07:38,121 --> 00:07:40,189 Sorry, I can't help you. 169 00:07:50,133 --> 00:07:52,167 You know who we are? 170 00:07:53,236 --> 00:07:54,980 Well, this is the ICWL building. 171 00:07:55,004 --> 00:07:57,306 That's right. You know what we do? 172 00:07:57,607 --> 00:07:58,951 Humanitarian work. 173 00:07:58,975 --> 00:08:00,353 That's what the people upstairs do. 174 00:08:00,377 --> 00:08:02,578 You know what we do? 175 00:08:06,516 --> 00:08:08,617 We catch pedophiles. 176 00:08:10,286 --> 00:08:13,566 Amos here specializes in tracking down online predators. 177 00:08:13,590 --> 00:08:15,568 He spends every waking hour 178 00:08:15,592 --> 00:08:18,304 scouring those chat rooms you say no one uses 179 00:08:18,328 --> 00:08:22,030 and he finds thousands of people soliciting children. 180 00:08:22,098 --> 00:08:25,144 Our operation is like a tightly spun spider web 181 00:08:25,168 --> 00:08:28,013 connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA, 182 00:08:28,037 --> 00:08:31,484 and let me tell you, his team here is a vital thread. 183 00:08:31,508 --> 00:08:34,320 He reports everything he gathers directly to me, 184 00:08:34,344 --> 00:08:36,455 and I see to it that the necessary authorities 185 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:38,090 take swift action. 186 00:08:38,114 --> 00:08:39,525 So are you in charge? 187 00:08:39,549 --> 00:08:42,184 This is my spiderweb. 188 00:08:42,986 --> 00:08:45,621 I'm the fucking spider, Gareth. 189 00:08:48,558 --> 00:08:52,138 Am I being detained? 190 00:08:52,162 --> 00:08:53,572 We already told you that you're not detained. 191 00:08:53,596 --> 00:08:56,165 Good. 192 00:08:56,332 --> 00:08:59,334 But if you leave this room, you will be arrested. 193 00:09:04,641 --> 00:09:06,608 For what? 194 00:09:08,344 --> 00:09:09,989 I told you what we do. 195 00:09:10,013 --> 00:09:11,713 Take a wild guess. 196 00:09:13,016 --> 00:09:14,593 I am not what you think I am. 197 00:09:14,617 --> 00:09:16,452 We'll see. 198 00:09:18,188 --> 00:09:20,733 Gareth, you just gotta tell us your alias. 199 00:09:20,757 --> 00:09:23,459 What's your username? 200 00:09:26,763 --> 00:09:28,597 Sit down. 201 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,224 - Why do you do this with them? - Hmm? 202 00:09:45,248 --> 00:09:47,526 There's no way you do this with every suspect you have. 203 00:09:47,550 --> 00:09:48,427 Invite them to your headquarters 204 00:09:48,451 --> 00:09:50,296 and then drag them down into a basement. 205 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,753 That's right. 206 00:09:51,821 --> 00:09:54,356 Why are you doing this to me then? 207 00:09:55,458 --> 00:09:56,769 You tell us, Gare. 208 00:09:56,793 --> 00:09:59,294 What makes you so fuckin' special? 209 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:02,631 I don't know. 210 00:10:03,433 --> 00:10:05,110 What's your alias? 211 00:10:05,134 --> 00:10:09,004 - I don't have an alias. - Yes you do. 212 00:10:09,572 --> 00:10:11,707 It starts with the word hard. 213 00:10:12,442 --> 00:10:14,576 Just finish the rest. 214 00:10:15,845 --> 00:10:17,256 Sit down, Mr. Federson. 215 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,681 I only have a few more questions. 216 00:10:31,528 --> 00:10:34,162 Do you recognize this girl? 217 00:10:41,838 --> 00:10:46,575 Do you know her? 218 00:10:48,545 --> 00:10:49,455 Yes. 219 00:10:49,479 --> 00:10:51,357 What's her name? 220 00:10:51,381 --> 00:10:52,758 Cherry. 221 00:10:52,782 --> 00:10:54,527 - Cherry what? - She doesn't have a last name. 222 00:10:54,551 --> 00:10:56,161 Yes, she does, Gareth, she's not Madonna. 223 00:10:56,185 --> 00:10:57,563 - She's a little girl. - You don't understand. 224 00:10:57,587 --> 00:10:58,430 Yeah, well, I'd like to. 225 00:10:58,454 --> 00:10:59,732 So help me out, is she your daughter? 226 00:10:59,756 --> 00:11:01,667 - No. - Then whose daughter is she? 227 00:11:01,691 --> 00:11:02,735 - She, she doesn't have... - How did you meet her? 228 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:03,836 I didn't meet her. 229 00:11:03,860 --> 00:11:05,838 Then why do you have photos of her on your computer? 230 00:11:05,862 --> 00:11:06,805 What the hell are you talking about? 231 00:11:06,829 --> 00:11:08,641 Why do you fucking have photos 232 00:11:08,665 --> 00:11:09,875 of this girl on your fucking- 233 00:11:09,899 --> 00:11:10,743 Are you looking at my hard drive? 234 00:11:10,767 --> 00:11:11,710 Because that's an invasion of privacy. 235 00:11:11,734 --> 00:11:13,646 So you know what photos I'm talking about? 236 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:14,346 You don't have to do it this way. 237 00:11:14,370 --> 00:11:15,781 I gave you permission to sit in. 238 00:11:15,805 --> 00:11:17,816 I did not give you permission to speak. 239 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,151 This is insane, you cannot keep- 240 00:11:19,175 --> 00:11:20,119 What else have you done with her? 241 00:11:20,143 --> 00:11:21,620 - Nothing! - Did you take the photos? 242 00:11:21,644 --> 00:11:22,555 It's, it's complicated. 243 00:11:22,579 --> 00:11:24,156 No, it's not! Yes or no? 244 00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:24,991 Did you take the photos? 245 00:11:25,015 --> 00:11:27,126 I didn't do anything wrong, okay? 246 00:11:27,150 --> 00:11:30,162 Soliciting pornography of minors is an egregious felony. 247 00:11:30,186 --> 00:11:33,132 Distributing that pornography is tenfold worse. 248 00:11:33,156 --> 00:11:35,401 - I didn't do anything! - Fucking prove it! 249 00:11:35,425 --> 00:11:38,760 What is your alias? 250 00:11:38,795 --> 00:11:40,272 Answer me! 251 00:11:40,296 --> 00:11:42,798 HardMachine11811. 252 00:12:00,416 --> 00:12:02,517 You're HardMachine. 253 00:12:03,653 --> 00:12:05,821 Thanks for confirming. 254 00:12:07,557 --> 00:12:09,936 If you knew, then why do this to me? 255 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,937 We weren't positive, 256 00:12:10,961 --> 00:12:12,671 and if you turned out to not be HardMachine, 257 00:12:12,695 --> 00:12:14,896 you were obviously just a predator. 258 00:12:19,402 --> 00:12:21,436 Do you keep track? 259 00:12:22,338 --> 00:12:25,451 I mean, do you know how many bad people you've nailed? 260 00:12:25,475 --> 00:12:27,386 I didn't start counting until 2023. 261 00:12:27,410 --> 00:12:29,755 196 convictions. 262 00:12:29,779 --> 00:12:30,756 There were at least 30 263 00:12:30,780 --> 00:12:32,691 before I started sending everything to you guys. 264 00:12:32,715 --> 00:12:33,960 What'd you do before? 265 00:12:33,984 --> 00:12:34,827 I turned over 266 00:12:34,851 --> 00:12:36,295 all evidence directly to the police. 267 00:12:36,319 --> 00:12:37,463 Why'd you stop? 268 00:12:37,487 --> 00:12:39,331 They were unreliable. 269 00:12:39,355 --> 00:12:40,866 - I doubt that. - More than half of the predators 270 00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:42,368 I identified went un-investigated. 271 00:12:42,392 --> 00:12:43,869 Yeah, well, you were sketchy and faceless. 272 00:12:43,893 --> 00:12:46,271 They had every right to be skeptical. 273 00:12:46,295 --> 00:12:47,439 It would've all been for nothing 274 00:12:47,463 --> 00:12:49,274 if they found out you were using a little girl as bait. 275 00:12:49,298 --> 00:12:50,209 It's not that simple, okay? 276 00:12:50,233 --> 00:12:52,946 I can only do what I do with anonymity. 277 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:54,948 Here's my problem, Gareth, and don't get me wrong. 278 00:12:54,972 --> 00:12:56,749 I think 200 terrible people behind bars 279 00:12:56,773 --> 00:12:59,752 is a very good thing, but not at her expense. 280 00:12:59,776 --> 00:13:01,888 Look, we think we can help you, 281 00:13:01,912 --> 00:13:03,489 but we need to help her too. 282 00:13:03,513 --> 00:13:06,725 Using your daughter to entrap these people 283 00:13:06,749 --> 00:13:07,826 is a means that does not justify the ends. 284 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:08,895 She's not my daughter. 285 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:09,963 And in spite of what you may think you've achieved, 286 00:13:09,987 --> 00:13:11,797 I still have no reservation with locking you up. 287 00:13:11,821 --> 00:13:13,332 You took the photos. 288 00:13:13,356 --> 00:13:14,500 I don't care why. 289 00:13:14,524 --> 00:13:16,335 You don't understand. 290 00:13:16,359 --> 00:13:17,436 Who is she? 291 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,972 You're gonna ruin everything. 292 00:13:18,996 --> 00:13:22,764 She's a child, Gareth, look at me. 293 00:13:23,599 --> 00:13:26,980 I don't give a damn what fucked up anti-hero master plan 294 00:13:27,004 --> 00:13:28,614 of yours I might jeopardize. 295 00:13:28,638 --> 00:13:30,349 I won't let her be exploited. 296 00:13:30,373 --> 00:13:32,942 Not even for the sake of locking up more perverts. 297 00:13:33,576 --> 00:13:36,588 I'm asking you politely to let this one go. 298 00:13:36,612 --> 00:13:38,257 Are you fucking slow? 299 00:13:38,281 --> 00:13:39,159 Have you been listening at all? 300 00:13:39,183 --> 00:13:41,827 My anonymity is my most important asset. 301 00:13:41,851 --> 00:13:43,562 Without that, I can't do what I do. 302 00:13:43,586 --> 00:13:46,254 Well, that makes everything easy then. 303 00:13:46,656 --> 00:13:48,834 You tell us where she is, or we leak everything. 304 00:13:48,858 --> 00:13:50,469 - Your name, your aliases. - Deena! 305 00:13:50,493 --> 00:13:52,538 Every single perp you helped us catch. 306 00:13:52,562 --> 00:13:54,473 I'm sure they'll be very pleased to meet you in jail. 307 00:13:54,497 --> 00:13:55,641 Stop! 308 00:13:55,665 --> 00:13:57,432 Okay. 309 00:14:00,003 --> 00:14:01,915 Look, if I tell you about Cherry, okay, 310 00:14:01,939 --> 00:14:04,406 there's some things I'm gonna need first. 311 00:14:04,607 --> 00:14:06,518 It doesn't really work like that, Gareth, but go ahead. 312 00:14:06,542 --> 00:14:07,753 Give us your wishlist. 313 00:14:07,777 --> 00:14:09,621 I need a signed non-disclosure agreement from both of you. 314 00:14:09,645 --> 00:14:10,856 - Not gonna happen. - And then I need you to swear 315 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,991 that the information I'm about to relay 316 00:14:12,015 --> 00:14:13,492 won't leave this room. 317 00:14:13,516 --> 00:14:14,793 Look, if you tell us anything 318 00:14:14,817 --> 00:14:15,929 that could help us locate Cherry, 319 00:14:15,953 --> 00:14:18,820 you know we can't keep that promise. 320 00:14:19,622 --> 00:14:21,300 Okay, if I tell you anything 321 00:14:21,324 --> 00:14:23,937 that potentially helps you find a missing child, 322 00:14:23,961 --> 00:14:24,971 okay, you can feel free to share that. 323 00:14:24,995 --> 00:14:25,939 But I need you to swear 324 00:14:25,963 --> 00:14:29,731 that any other details about myself or Cherry, 325 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:32,467 have to stay between the three of us. 326 00:14:33,669 --> 00:14:35,504 Is that it? 327 00:14:36,907 --> 00:14:38,941 And I need that camera switched off. 328 00:14:40,077 --> 00:14:41,353 I don't know how to do that. 329 00:14:41,377 --> 00:14:42,588 Go to the head of securities office, 330 00:14:42,612 --> 00:14:44,991 ask him to find this camera in the system and disable it. 331 00:14:45,015 --> 00:14:47,315 I don't think he's allowed to do that. 332 00:14:47,717 --> 00:14:49,851 I thought you were the fucking spider? 333 00:14:53,523 --> 00:14:54,833 Give me a reason, Gareth. 334 00:14:54,857 --> 00:14:55,969 Why should I go through all the trouble 335 00:14:55,993 --> 00:14:58,326 of getting that camera turned off? 336 00:14:59,029 --> 00:15:01,998 Because if anybody finds out what I'm about to tell you, 337 00:15:02,933 --> 00:15:05,801 a thousand more children are gonna get abused. 338 00:15:08,838 --> 00:15:10,672 Give me a minute. 339 00:15:25,388 --> 00:15:31,693 So, uh, you and Cherry hunted all those people together? 340 00:15:38,168 --> 00:15:41,147 This one time I spent six weeks undercover trying 341 00:15:41,171 --> 00:15:44,539 to nail down a single trafficker from the Philippines. 342 00:15:45,441 --> 00:15:46,552 Day after day, 343 00:15:46,576 --> 00:15:49,923 I spent hour after hour following his trail online. 344 00:15:49,947 --> 00:15:51,057 And he must have been 345 00:15:51,081 --> 00:15:54,349 one of the hardest targets I ever had to track down. 346 00:15:56,186 --> 00:16:01,567 Then one day I found him and one of Cherry's live streams. 347 00:16:01,591 --> 00:16:03,468 I mean, she went by a different name in the stream, 348 00:16:03,492 --> 00:16:05,894 but it was her. 349 00:16:06,429 --> 00:16:07,539 The trafficker, 350 00:16:07,563 --> 00:16:08,807 along with three of our other targets 351 00:16:08,831 --> 00:16:10,843 were all in the room together. 352 00:16:10,867 --> 00:16:17,472 All of them just carelessly sharing their information. 353 00:16:18,008 --> 00:16:23,022 I mean, and they were so open 'cause she was a real girl. 354 00:16:23,046 --> 00:16:24,790 I mean, she could physically 355 00:16:24,814 --> 00:16:27,950 and verbally respond to them in real time. 356 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:36,435 A couple days later, HardMachine11811 sends ICWL 357 00:16:36,459 --> 00:16:38,104 another batch of names and evidence, 358 00:16:38,128 --> 00:16:42,397 including the three targets that were in the room. 359 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,913 You know, I almost thought the girl was HardMachine 360 00:16:46,937 --> 00:16:48,680 and that this nine year old 361 00:16:48,704 --> 00:16:52,942 just happened to be some badass online vigilante. 362 00:16:54,543 --> 00:16:56,645 What changed your mind? 363 00:16:59,149 --> 00:17:01,683 11811. 364 00:17:01,985 --> 00:17:05,631 January 18th, 2011. 365 00:17:05,655 --> 00:17:10,525 Most of my team thought it was, uh, some arbitrary number, 366 00:17:10,928 --> 00:17:15,497 but I remember what happened on that day in Clearwater. 367 00:17:17,533 --> 00:17:20,435 You were one of the Clearwater kids, weren't you? 368 00:17:21,004 --> 00:17:24,039 You know, my father was a part of that raid. 369 00:17:26,776 --> 00:17:27,819 It's off, see? 370 00:17:27,843 --> 00:17:29,222 No red light. 371 00:17:29,246 --> 00:17:30,089 Non-disclosure agreements? 372 00:17:30,113 --> 00:17:31,190 We're not playing this game, Gareth. 373 00:17:31,214 --> 00:17:34,216 You're just gonna have to suck it up and trust us. 374 00:17:37,921 --> 00:17:40,588 You can trust us. 375 00:17:42,591 --> 00:17:44,103 I've been told I have trust issues. 376 00:17:44,127 --> 00:17:46,996 Well, there's only one way to fix that. 377 00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:57,649 The reason you can't find Cherry, 378 00:17:57,673 --> 00:18:00,786 the reason why she doesn't have a last name or parents, 379 00:18:00,810 --> 00:18:06,581 or a social security number is because she's not real. 380 00:18:07,683 --> 00:18:09,884 She's not a real human being. 381 00:18:13,023 --> 00:18:15,024 Tell us what happened. 382 00:18:18,594 --> 00:18:20,073 While I was studying abroad, 383 00:18:20,097 --> 00:18:22,808 I interned at a small Dutch animation studio 384 00:18:22,832 --> 00:18:24,177 a few years before they collaborated 385 00:18:24,201 --> 00:18:26,712 with a local nonprofit on a similar idea. 386 00:18:26,736 --> 00:18:28,270 Which was? 387 00:18:28,771 --> 00:18:30,316 The idea was to build a 3D model 388 00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:32,185 of an 11 year old Filipino girl 389 00:18:32,209 --> 00:18:35,121 and use her covertly to identify online predators, 390 00:18:35,145 --> 00:18:38,091 A technological solution to a technological problem. 391 00:18:38,115 --> 00:18:39,959 But the project was suspended after only a few months. 392 00:18:39,983 --> 00:18:40,859 Yeah, I remember. 393 00:18:40,883 --> 00:18:42,895 I remember hearing about that program. 394 00:18:42,919 --> 00:18:44,920 Is that what inspired you? 395 00:18:45,022 --> 00:18:46,265 As I got better at crafting photorealistic faces, 396 00:18:46,289 --> 00:18:47,900 I decided to work on one myself. 397 00:18:47,924 --> 00:18:49,701 Why? 398 00:18:49,725 --> 00:18:52,105 It was too effective of an idea to let die. 399 00:18:52,129 --> 00:18:54,573 Hundreds of thousands of children are at risk. 400 00:18:54,597 --> 00:18:55,607 I had to make her. 401 00:18:55,631 --> 00:18:56,909 Who is she modeled after? 402 00:18:56,933 --> 00:18:58,011 No one, I built her from scratch. 403 00:18:58,035 --> 00:18:59,145 Scratch? 404 00:18:59,169 --> 00:19:01,680 I started with a skull, designed her bone structure, 405 00:19:01,704 --> 00:19:03,249 worked upwards through muscles and tissue, 406 00:19:03,273 --> 00:19:05,151 used the D-Term program to fill in the rest procedurally. 407 00:19:05,175 --> 00:19:08,988 Eventually she came to look like that. 408 00:19:09,012 --> 00:19:11,656 A completely unique, completely digital model. 409 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,824 I rigged her face and body 410 00:19:12,848 --> 00:19:13,825 the way you would for any CG character. 411 00:19:13,849 --> 00:19:15,985 Then for three years, 412 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,220 I used motion tracking to puppeteer her in real time. 413 00:19:18,455 --> 00:19:18,998 You gotta understand that the video chats on those sites 414 00:19:19,022 --> 00:19:19,999 have such low resolution 415 00:19:20,023 --> 00:19:22,768 that even in her earliest stage of this, she, 416 00:19:22,792 --> 00:19:26,661 we appeared completely authentic. 417 00:19:26,963 --> 00:19:28,964 And what about voice? 418 00:19:28,999 --> 00:19:30,209 For most of her first year, she had to be mute. 419 00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:32,378 But eventually I found a decent voice filter with no lag. 420 00:19:32,402 --> 00:19:33,880 And after a few tweaks and adjustments, 421 00:19:33,904 --> 00:19:36,115 it's been the same voice ever since. 422 00:19:36,139 --> 00:19:38,051 I, I, I thought initially, 423 00:19:38,075 --> 00:19:40,219 my performance was going to be too unnatural. 424 00:19:40,243 --> 00:19:45,058 But with just one week of occasional video chat sessions, 425 00:19:45,082 --> 00:19:47,026 I secured six different names, 426 00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:49,851 mailing addresses, proofs of solicitations. 427 00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:51,197 Cherry worked. 428 00:19:51,221 --> 00:19:53,066 So the photos on your computer? 429 00:19:53,090 --> 00:19:55,034 - Completely fake. - It was the only way 430 00:19:55,058 --> 00:19:56,135 some of them disclosed personal information. 431 00:19:56,159 --> 00:19:59,005 But it was all zeros and ones, all digital, right? 432 00:19:59,029 --> 00:20:01,007 - There's no real child. - No real child. 433 00:20:01,031 --> 00:20:02,942 Just a highly detailed computer model. 434 00:20:02,966 --> 00:20:05,011 And let me be clear about something, 435 00:20:05,035 --> 00:20:05,811 I derive no pleasure from doing any of this. 436 00:20:05,835 --> 00:20:07,813 I've been asexual my entire life. 437 00:20:07,837 --> 00:20:09,681 I, I don't even get a sense of satisfaction 438 00:20:09,705 --> 00:20:11,840 from seeing these people locked up. 439 00:20:12,242 --> 00:20:15,777 I just think kids deserve a life free of exploitation. 440 00:20:16,446 --> 00:20:20,382 Incredible, all this time. 441 00:20:20,417 --> 00:20:21,860 I'm not gonna lie, Gareth. 442 00:20:21,884 --> 00:20:24,220 Cherry's done us a lot of good. 443 00:20:24,787 --> 00:20:26,032 You know, I still remember what you said to me 444 00:20:26,056 --> 00:20:28,157 the first time we corresponded. 445 00:20:28,258 --> 00:20:30,735 -You said- -We corresponded? 446 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:32,138 Yeah, man. 447 00:20:32,162 --> 00:20:34,029 I'm Gord51. 448 00:20:34,197 --> 00:20:36,898 I'm the one here you've been sending all your intel to. 449 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,145 You're Gord? 450 00:20:39,169 --> 00:20:41,203 Yeah. 451 00:20:42,405 --> 00:20:44,140 You lied to me. 452 00:20:44,341 --> 00:20:46,285 You said I could stay anonymous. 453 00:20:46,309 --> 00:20:48,911 You said I would be safe. 454 00:20:49,712 --> 00:20:51,779 Now you've ruined everything. 455 00:20:51,948 --> 00:20:53,292 I, I didn't, I didn't have a choice. 456 00:20:53,316 --> 00:20:54,693 You don't have to worry about anything, Gareth. 457 00:20:54,717 --> 00:20:55,794 If Cherry isn't real, 458 00:20:55,818 --> 00:20:58,087 then you're not in any trouble with us. 459 00:20:58,321 --> 00:21:01,134 In fact, we've discussed ideas similar to this in the past, 460 00:21:01,158 --> 00:21:02,135 motion tracking and such. 461 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,937 But we'd need a convincing model like Cherry. 462 00:21:04,961 --> 00:21:05,770 Cherry's more than a model. 463 00:21:05,794 --> 00:21:07,240 You want to help children? So do we. 464 00:21:07,264 --> 00:21:08,374 She's not for sale. 465 00:21:08,398 --> 00:21:10,176 Well, then just make us a new model based off of her. 466 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,344 I can't. 467 00:21:11,368 --> 00:21:12,345 Sure you can. 468 00:21:12,369 --> 00:21:14,203 I won't. 469 00:21:16,439 --> 00:21:18,407 What are you not telling us? 470 00:21:20,110 --> 00:21:21,254 It's out on the table now. 471 00:21:21,278 --> 00:21:24,313 Might as well spill whatever it is you haven't already. 472 00:21:28,985 --> 00:21:31,853 You know what doesn't make sense? 473 00:21:32,322 --> 00:21:35,501 You said that you puppeteered her for only three years, 474 00:21:35,525 --> 00:21:38,860 but we've been getting info from you ever since. 475 00:21:39,462 --> 00:21:41,140 In fact, I'm pretty sure it was around then 476 00:21:41,164 --> 00:21:45,201 that we started seeing an impressive increase of names. 477 00:21:45,435 --> 00:21:48,270 So many in fact that we started thinking 478 00:21:48,804 --> 00:21:50,849 there's no way this is all coming from one source. 479 00:21:50,873 --> 00:21:52,351 I have friends that do mo-cap for me. 480 00:21:52,375 --> 00:21:55,911 Oh, friends, like Steve? 481 00:21:56,179 --> 00:21:58,880 I thought anonymity was your greatest asset. 482 00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:03,185 Cut the bullshit, Gareth. 483 00:22:03,886 --> 00:22:06,222 What happened to Cherry after three years? 484 00:22:12,095 --> 00:22:16,042 Okay, you said that she was more than a model. 485 00:22:16,066 --> 00:22:19,512 So what is she some type of conversational agent? 486 00:22:19,536 --> 00:22:22,048 Like a, like a chat bot? 487 00:22:22,072 --> 00:22:26,408 Chat bot. 488 00:22:30,146 --> 00:22:32,425 You know what happened after three years? 489 00:22:32,449 --> 00:22:34,393 My chosen mother died. 490 00:22:34,417 --> 00:22:35,328 What she left behind was enough to quit my job 491 00:22:35,352 --> 00:22:38,164 and pursue more resources and software. 492 00:22:38,188 --> 00:22:39,098 I'd already made a program 493 00:22:39,122 --> 00:22:40,199 that could procedurally generate faces, 494 00:22:40,223 --> 00:22:42,435 but what I wanted for Cherry was far more complex. 495 00:22:42,459 --> 00:22:44,403 So I got in touch with some researchers 496 00:22:44,427 --> 00:22:45,471 from Madrid who'd already built 497 00:22:45,495 --> 00:22:47,839 a predator hunting dialogue system of their own. 498 00:22:47,863 --> 00:22:50,142 It was trained to approach conversations as a game. 499 00:22:50,166 --> 00:22:51,876 Each sentence like a strategic volley, 500 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:53,246 which is innovative but ultimately flawed. 501 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:54,947 If you want your machine to master NLP, 502 00:22:54,971 --> 00:22:55,747 you have to break down game theory 503 00:22:55,771 --> 00:22:57,416 because language isn't tic-tac-toe. 504 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,517 It's poetry. 505 00:22:58,541 --> 00:23:00,019 So yes, I got things started 506 00:23:00,043 --> 00:23:01,287 with a preexisting modified chat bot 507 00:23:01,311 --> 00:23:02,388 that I borrowed without permission 508 00:23:02,412 --> 00:23:04,413 from the University of Deusto. 509 00:23:09,052 --> 00:23:11,754 But that's not what Cherry is now. 510 00:23:14,291 --> 00:23:15,958 What is she, Gareth? 511 00:23:18,395 --> 00:23:19,572 She's one of the most complex 512 00:23:19,596 --> 00:23:23,009 and independently evolving AIs that's ever been created. 513 00:23:23,033 --> 00:23:24,010 Artificial intelligence? 514 00:23:24,034 --> 00:23:25,911 She's already surpassed the narrow intelligence 515 00:23:25,935 --> 00:23:28,014 of IBM's smartest programs. 516 00:23:28,038 --> 00:23:31,217 She can have full conversations, up to 10 of them at a time, 517 00:23:31,241 --> 00:23:33,252 all while simultaneously strategizing 518 00:23:33,276 --> 00:23:36,322 the most efficient schedule to visit various chat rooms. 519 00:23:36,346 --> 00:23:38,924 She's perpetually studying YouTube videos of small children 520 00:23:38,948 --> 00:23:40,426 in order to adopt a growing library 521 00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:42,484 of mannerisms and movements 522 00:23:42,552 --> 00:23:44,863 which help keep her artificial personality dynamic. 523 00:23:44,887 --> 00:23:46,265 Her fastest response time is 0.4 seconds. 524 00:23:46,289 --> 00:23:47,633 And as of now, she has never, 525 00:23:47,657 --> 00:23:49,268 never been accused of being fake, 526 00:23:49,292 --> 00:23:51,003 which means she shattered the Turing test. 527 00:23:51,027 --> 00:23:52,471 All I do is occasionally update her 528 00:23:52,495 --> 00:23:53,872 and periodically check her data cleaning. 529 00:23:53,896 --> 00:23:55,531 Otherwise, 530 00:23:56,633 --> 00:23:59,068 she's completely on autopilot. 531 00:24:03,139 --> 00:24:05,441 Holy fucking shit. 532 00:24:08,978 --> 00:24:10,089 - How? - Six years she's been active. 533 00:24:10,113 --> 00:24:12,091 Every minute she's online, she's learning something. 534 00:24:12,115 --> 00:24:14,493 The more she learns, the more advanced she becomes. 535 00:24:14,517 --> 00:24:15,661 This means increased data generation, 536 00:24:15,685 --> 00:24:16,929 improved decision making, 537 00:24:16,953 --> 00:24:18,197 faster pattern and trend detection 538 00:24:18,221 --> 00:24:19,332 and complex problem solving. 539 00:24:19,356 --> 00:24:22,535 NLP, IR, machine learning to an unprecedented degree. 540 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:23,602 She can teach herself anything 541 00:24:23,626 --> 00:24:25,404 she thinks will help efficiency and authenticity. 542 00:24:25,428 --> 00:24:27,963 She can currently speak four languages 543 00:24:28,231 --> 00:24:29,075 and by the end of this month, she'll have mastered a fifth. 544 00:24:29,099 --> 00:24:30,476 There's no way you could have pulled 545 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:32,501 all this off on your own. 546 00:24:35,472 --> 00:24:37,306 You're right. 547 00:24:38,441 --> 00:24:39,552 Would you believe me if I told you 548 00:24:39,576 --> 00:24:43,512 it was somewhat of an accident? 549 00:24:44,581 --> 00:24:47,216 Look, if, if I'm being honest, 550 00:24:47,617 --> 00:24:50,185 I'm not entirely sure how I did it 551 00:24:50,653 --> 00:24:52,031 with the first year of coding 552 00:24:52,055 --> 00:24:54,189 and the second year of data training, 553 00:24:54,257 --> 00:24:57,069 I just pushed a wheel down a hill. 554 00:24:57,093 --> 00:24:59,628 It was like gravity did the rest. 555 00:24:59,662 --> 00:25:04,600 Her evolution became perpetual, exponentially so. 556 00:25:06,002 --> 00:25:09,415 The more time she was online, the faster she grew. 557 00:25:09,439 --> 00:25:10,983 You haven't shared this with anyone? 558 00:25:11,007 --> 00:25:15,110 Like I said, my anonymity is everything. 559 00:25:16,746 --> 00:25:18,624 What coding language? 560 00:25:18,648 --> 00:25:20,159 Standard C++. 561 00:25:20,183 --> 00:25:21,984 Does Brady know it? 562 00:25:24,287 --> 00:25:26,588 We'll sign non-disclosures for you, 563 00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:28,300 but I want to see the source code first. 564 00:25:28,324 --> 00:25:30,102 Out of the question. You just want to steal her. 565 00:25:30,126 --> 00:25:32,204 No, I want to see how we can make our own. 566 00:25:32,228 --> 00:25:33,205 You'll screw it up. 567 00:25:33,229 --> 00:25:34,974 Look, these, these predators and traffickers, 568 00:25:34,998 --> 00:25:36,142 they all talk to each other, okay? 569 00:25:36,166 --> 00:25:38,411 So much of Cherry's process is just bypassing the VPNs 570 00:25:38,435 --> 00:25:40,546 and making sure she doesn't double up in the same circles. 571 00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:42,081 The chat rooms begin to suspect 572 00:25:42,105 --> 00:25:43,449 that this technology is even possible, 573 00:25:43,473 --> 00:25:44,550 they'll find a way to circumvent that. 574 00:25:44,574 --> 00:25:46,051 We have to eliminate any margin of error. 575 00:25:46,075 --> 00:25:47,386 - Cherry agrees with me. - Cherry agrees? 576 00:25:47,410 --> 00:25:48,487 What the fuck does that- 577 00:25:48,511 --> 00:25:50,289 What I mean by that is that the data she's collected 578 00:25:50,313 --> 00:25:51,290 validates that perspective. 579 00:25:51,314 --> 00:25:52,625 What, do you have little chats with her over tea? 580 00:25:52,649 --> 00:25:54,627 You can converse with the program 581 00:25:54,651 --> 00:25:56,328 the same way you can talk to Alexa or Siri. 582 00:25:56,352 --> 00:25:57,463 It's built to be responsive. 583 00:25:57,487 --> 00:25:59,298 You can, you can even play chess with it if you want. 584 00:25:59,322 --> 00:26:00,132 You play chess with it? 585 00:26:00,156 --> 00:26:01,700 - That's not what I said. - Okay fine. 586 00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:04,003 If you won't show us the source code, 587 00:26:04,027 --> 00:26:05,994 then I want to meet Cherry. 588 00:26:08,398 --> 00:26:10,232 Right now? 589 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:11,733 Right now. 590 00:26:14,771 --> 00:26:17,039 And you'll both sign non-disclosures? 591 00:26:17,373 --> 00:26:19,208 Yes. 592 00:26:23,346 --> 00:26:24,490 Can I use that? 593 00:26:24,514 --> 00:26:26,348 Sure. 594 00:26:45,201 --> 00:26:47,580 Can we at least agree that he's off the chopping block? 595 00:26:47,604 --> 00:26:49,315 It worked, didn't it? 596 00:26:49,339 --> 00:26:51,540 We have one job, Amos, 597 00:26:51,641 --> 00:26:53,586 like the kids said, there's a technological problem. 598 00:26:53,610 --> 00:26:55,287 He found the technological solution, 599 00:26:55,311 --> 00:26:58,290 but problems evolve, so must solutions. 600 00:26:58,314 --> 00:27:01,049 I'm keeping an open mind here. 601 00:27:01,084 --> 00:27:02,628 Is that a good look for me? 602 00:27:02,652 --> 00:27:04,520 No. 603 00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:10,402 So you keep it all on that laptop? 604 00:27:10,426 --> 00:27:11,770 No, the Cherry program stays on a server I keep 605 00:27:11,794 --> 00:27:13,439 at in an undisclosed location. 606 00:27:13,463 --> 00:27:14,507 Where is that? 607 00:27:14,531 --> 00:27:16,208 It's an undisclosed location. 608 00:27:16,232 --> 00:27:17,142 Is it your place? 609 00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:18,677 Undisclosed location. 610 00:27:18,701 --> 00:27:19,411 It's your place, isn't it? 611 00:27:19,435 --> 00:27:20,779 I can access it from any device 612 00:27:20,803 --> 00:27:23,405 as long as I have the encryption key. 613 00:27:24,674 --> 00:27:26,151 This will trigger a simple qubit algorithm 614 00:27:26,175 --> 00:27:28,187 that would otherwise be impossible to bypass. 615 00:27:28,211 --> 00:27:30,155 I find that outdated hardware is always more discreet 616 00:27:30,179 --> 00:27:32,548 and the more discreet, obviously the better. 617 00:27:35,585 --> 00:27:37,563 So she has two primary display modes, right? 618 00:27:37,587 --> 00:27:38,564 Development and performance. 619 00:27:38,588 --> 00:27:39,732 Performance being the default 620 00:27:39,756 --> 00:27:41,433 that the targets see during the chats. 621 00:27:41,457 --> 00:27:45,360 To them, she looks like this. 622 00:27:50,833 --> 00:27:52,545 Hey, what's up? 623 00:27:52,569 --> 00:27:55,137 It's one of over 40 greetings she has. 624 00:27:57,307 --> 00:27:58,517 I don't think I've met you yet. 625 00:27:58,541 --> 00:27:59,785 I'm Cherry. 626 00:27:59,809 --> 00:28:00,786 Hello, Cherry. 627 00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:02,588 My name is Tom. 628 00:28:02,612 --> 00:28:04,623 Tom, like Tom and Jerry. 629 00:28:04,647 --> 00:28:06,191 Cool, nice to meet you, Tom. 630 00:28:06,215 --> 00:28:07,593 Typically, the routes of conversations 631 00:28:07,617 --> 00:28:08,594 with predators are consistent, 632 00:28:08,618 --> 00:28:10,462 so Cherry usually has no problem responding 633 00:28:10,486 --> 00:28:12,765 to the most frequently made questions or statements. 634 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:13,732 How are you? 635 00:28:13,756 --> 00:28:14,935 I'm good. 636 00:28:14,959 --> 00:28:16,903 I just finished reading this book about a haunted house, 637 00:28:16,927 --> 00:28:19,305 which was supposed to be really scary, 638 00:28:19,329 --> 00:28:21,740 but I didn't think it's very scary at all. 639 00:28:21,764 --> 00:28:23,865 Where are your parents? 640 00:28:24,068 --> 00:28:26,712 Um my mom's at work and my sister's just, like, downstairs. 641 00:28:26,736 --> 00:28:28,514 They almost never come up here. 642 00:28:28,538 --> 00:28:29,548 And you're telling me 643 00:28:29,572 --> 00:28:31,717 that all of this is being rendered in real time? 644 00:28:31,741 --> 00:28:33,218 No, but that's just a matter of years. 645 00:28:33,242 --> 00:28:34,620 Most of these responses are pre-rendered. 646 00:28:34,644 --> 00:28:35,821 It's the in between segments 647 00:28:35,845 --> 00:28:36,890 that are processed in real time, 648 00:28:36,914 --> 00:28:38,090 the connective tissue, so to speak, 649 00:28:38,114 --> 00:28:40,659 between her replies and one of her many idle animations. 650 00:28:40,683 --> 00:28:42,751 But, watch this. 651 00:28:43,486 --> 00:28:46,089 Have you ever gone fishing? 652 00:28:46,656 --> 00:28:48,490 Um... 653 00:28:51,694 --> 00:28:53,505 So if someone throws a curve ball like that 654 00:28:53,529 --> 00:28:55,407 and the program has no automated response, 655 00:28:55,431 --> 00:28:57,176 Cherry sends the message to my phone 656 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,811 and I can quickly text back a response 657 00:28:58,835 --> 00:29:01,770 while the video feed simulates a bad connection. 658 00:29:03,907 --> 00:29:05,184 Can, can you hear me? 659 00:29:05,208 --> 00:29:06,518 Yes. 660 00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:08,520 Oh, sorry. 661 00:29:08,544 --> 00:29:10,556 My wifi isn't great here. 662 00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:12,524 I've only gone fishing once with my sister 663 00:29:12,548 --> 00:29:15,527 and I didn't catch anything, but she caught a rainbow trout. 664 00:29:15,551 --> 00:29:17,863 That was rendered in real time. 665 00:29:17,887 --> 00:29:19,698 What happens if things get really tricky? 666 00:29:19,722 --> 00:29:20,833 A simple fail safe cuts the feed. 667 00:29:20,857 --> 00:29:22,701 So far it's rarely happened. 668 00:29:22,725 --> 00:29:26,205 Admin code 97815-5742-7663. 669 00:29:26,229 --> 00:29:27,796 Switch to dev mode. 670 00:29:32,468 --> 00:29:33,947 Hello, Cherry. 671 00:29:33,971 --> 00:29:35,648 Hello, Gareth. 672 00:29:35,672 --> 00:29:37,783 Relay the stats for the past week. 673 00:29:37,807 --> 00:29:39,752 There have been four confirmed solicitations 674 00:29:39,776 --> 00:29:42,821 submitted to ICWL in the past seven days. 675 00:29:42,845 --> 00:29:45,858 12 additional suspects have stated interest in solicitation 676 00:29:45,882 --> 00:29:47,559 and are currently pending. 677 00:29:47,583 --> 00:29:49,695 There are a total of 39 new suspects this week 678 00:29:49,719 --> 00:29:51,497 that I'm actively investigating. 679 00:29:51,521 --> 00:29:53,532 Any considerable data deviations? 680 00:29:53,556 --> 00:29:55,367 There has been a 7% increase 681 00:29:55,391 --> 00:29:57,770 in suspects originating in the United States. 682 00:29:57,794 --> 00:30:01,229 I have not yet found any correlation to preexisting data. 683 00:30:01,698 --> 00:30:03,899 Anything you'd like to ask her? 684 00:30:12,575 --> 00:30:15,945 Cherry, what is your objective? 685 00:30:16,512 --> 00:30:19,358 My principal directive is to acquire information 686 00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:22,394 and digital evidence of online child solicitation. 687 00:30:22,418 --> 00:30:23,562 Once obtained, 688 00:30:23,586 --> 00:30:26,732 I'm to submit my findings to the necessary authorities. 689 00:30:26,756 --> 00:30:28,634 My secondary priority is to determine 690 00:30:28,658 --> 00:30:30,904 and develop the most effective strategies 691 00:30:30,928 --> 00:30:33,739 and resources to increase the net rate of success. 692 00:30:33,763 --> 00:30:35,541 Where do you submit your evidence? 693 00:30:35,565 --> 00:30:37,376 All evidence is currently submitted 694 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,410 to the offices of 695 00:30:38,434 --> 00:30:40,980 the International Committee of World Largesse, 696 00:30:41,004 --> 00:30:43,016 which is based out of Jacksonville, Florida. 697 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,751 Correspondence is made with user Gord51, 698 00:30:45,775 --> 00:30:47,987 typically around 2:00 PM Eastern Standard Time 699 00:30:48,011 --> 00:30:50,779 for the highest rate of immediate response. 700 00:30:51,048 --> 00:30:52,658 This beats the hell outta Siri. 701 00:30:52,682 --> 00:30:53,692 God, she looks so real. 702 00:30:53,716 --> 00:30:54,693 After enough updates, 703 00:30:54,717 --> 00:30:56,428 she'll be able to render full-time photorealism 704 00:30:56,452 --> 00:30:58,764 that's practically indistinguishable from reality. 705 00:30:58,788 --> 00:31:01,935 Okay, all I heard right then was word real a thousand times. 706 00:31:01,959 --> 00:31:04,994 Right, but obviously she's not. 707 00:31:06,462 --> 00:31:07,773 So you're telling me this girl, 708 00:31:07,797 --> 00:31:09,943 this girl right here is not real. 709 00:31:09,967 --> 00:31:12,377 No, Amos, she's completely CG. 710 00:31:12,401 --> 00:31:13,779 It's very subtle, but I can still tell. 711 00:31:13,803 --> 00:31:14,480 - You can? - Okay, well, obviously, 712 00:31:14,504 --> 00:31:15,681 she can always use improvements, 713 00:31:15,705 --> 00:31:17,884 but you have to understand this is her in high resolution 714 00:31:17,908 --> 00:31:18,851 after the digital compression of the web, 715 00:31:18,875 --> 00:31:20,486 those subtleties are impossible to recognize. 716 00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:22,511 Right, I get it. 717 00:31:27,683 --> 00:31:29,818 I just can't tell the difference. 718 00:31:32,655 --> 00:31:34,656 You all right, Amos? 719 00:31:35,092 --> 00:31:36,602 I'm sorry. 720 00:31:36,626 --> 00:31:40,829 This is just bizarre. 721 00:31:41,131 --> 00:31:43,832 Why'd you have her visible during this interface? 722 00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:46,936 Cherry, why don't you answer that? 723 00:31:47,004 --> 00:31:50,116 My physical form isn't necessary when in developer mode. 724 00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:51,985 However, it's helpful to register 725 00:31:52,009 --> 00:31:54,653 the facial expressions during conversations 726 00:31:54,677 --> 00:31:56,588 and determine which of Cherry's expressions 727 00:31:56,612 --> 00:31:58,757 yield various types of feedback. 728 00:31:58,781 --> 00:32:02,350 In simpler terms, I can practice appearing more human. 729 00:32:02,585 --> 00:32:05,364 Cherry, are there any resources 730 00:32:05,388 --> 00:32:06,966 that you currently don't have access to 731 00:32:06,990 --> 00:32:09,035 that might help you in any way? 732 00:32:09,059 --> 00:32:10,669 I could give you a list if you like. 733 00:32:10,693 --> 00:32:11,670 I know what you're trying to do. 734 00:32:11,694 --> 00:32:12,939 We don't need help, okay? 735 00:32:12,963 --> 00:32:14,573 Money would always be nice, but ultimately, 736 00:32:14,597 --> 00:32:17,833 the only thing that's going to improve Cherry is time. 737 00:32:18,035 --> 00:32:21,770 Cherry, tell us something that's on your list. 738 00:32:22,005 --> 00:32:24,017 It would be tactically advantageous 739 00:32:24,041 --> 00:32:26,019 to acquire backup servers. 740 00:32:26,043 --> 00:32:28,487 The privacy and security of the Cherry program 741 00:32:28,511 --> 00:32:30,512 is relatively low. 742 00:32:30,613 --> 00:32:32,959 An upgrade to hardware such as backup rated drives 743 00:32:32,983 --> 00:32:35,895 for securely protected servers would ensure the software 744 00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:38,932 doesn't become compromised or lost entirely. 745 00:32:38,956 --> 00:32:41,667 Starting back from zero with cost years of development, 746 00:32:41,691 --> 00:32:44,070 equitably privacy is a priority. 747 00:32:44,094 --> 00:32:47,073 Server space could never be rented from a third party. 748 00:32:47,097 --> 00:32:49,808 Anonymity is the Cherry program's greatest asset. 749 00:32:49,832 --> 00:32:51,077 Well, that apple didn't fall far. 750 00:32:51,101 --> 00:32:52,845 I can buy my own servers. 751 00:32:52,869 --> 00:32:53,947 With the grant money that doesn't exist? 752 00:32:53,971 --> 00:32:54,780 I'll find a way. 753 00:32:54,804 --> 00:32:56,481 You have found a way here with us. 754 00:32:56,505 --> 00:32:57,150 It's too risky. 755 00:32:57,174 --> 00:32:57,984 Why? 756 00:32:58,008 --> 00:32:58,817 Once an organization gets involved, 757 00:32:58,841 --> 00:33:00,853 entrapment becomes a bigger issue. 758 00:33:00,877 --> 00:33:01,720 We follow the rules, stay discreet, 759 00:33:01,744 --> 00:33:03,022 did I mention we have a legal team. 760 00:33:03,046 --> 00:33:04,823 What if there's data leakage? What if you use correlations in 761 00:33:04,847 --> 00:33:05,657 the data to push your own agenda? 762 00:33:05,681 --> 00:33:06,658 Agenda? 763 00:33:06,682 --> 00:33:08,161 What if one of your employees is a pervert? 764 00:33:08,185 --> 00:33:09,028 Oh, for fuck's sake. 765 00:33:09,052 --> 00:33:10,562 It's happened at other organizations. 766 00:33:10,586 --> 00:33:11,697 We're very careful here. 767 00:33:11,721 --> 00:33:12,966 Yeah, but wow would you know? 768 00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:14,833 - I'd fucking know. - That's impossible to know. 769 00:33:14,857 --> 00:33:16,568 - I would know. - The risk is too high. 770 00:33:16,592 --> 00:33:18,004 Don't talk to me about risk. 771 00:33:18,028 --> 00:33:19,172 The only risk you're facing in this building 772 00:33:19,196 --> 00:33:20,306 is getting a broken nose. 773 00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:23,042 It doesn't sound like a very professional environment. 774 00:33:23,066 --> 00:33:24,210 We get shit done here. 775 00:33:24,234 --> 00:33:28,503 Okay, I have a question for Cherry. 776 00:33:30,706 --> 00:33:32,540 Cherry, 777 00:33:34,877 --> 00:33:37,980 how do you feel about what you do? 778 00:33:38,181 --> 00:33:40,894 I'm afraid I don't know how to answer your question. 779 00:33:40,918 --> 00:33:41,995 Yeah, an AI doesn't work like that. 780 00:33:42,019 --> 00:33:44,163 An AI doesn't have what you perceive to be feelings. 781 00:33:44,187 --> 00:33:47,189 Okay, why does she look like she has feelings? 782 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:48,968 What, what you're looking at right there, 783 00:33:48,992 --> 00:33:49,936 that's not a facial expression, right? 784 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,971 That's a simulation of a facial expression. 785 00:33:51,995 --> 00:33:53,839 It was generated by an algorithm. 786 00:33:53,863 --> 00:33:54,974 It's attempting to produce a digital image 787 00:33:54,998 --> 00:33:57,143 that the program then uses basic ninth grade algebra 788 00:33:57,167 --> 00:33:59,778 to quantify as appropriate for the social circumstances. 789 00:33:59,802 --> 00:34:01,180 No feeling. 790 00:34:01,204 --> 00:34:02,837 It's just math. 791 00:34:03,806 --> 00:34:05,184 But she's able to make decisions 792 00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,053 on how she approaches the chat rooms, right? 793 00:34:07,077 --> 00:34:08,187 Yes. 794 00:34:08,211 --> 00:34:09,855 So she has free will then? 795 00:34:09,879 --> 00:34:11,523 No. Okay, that's, that's not the same. 796 00:34:11,547 --> 00:34:12,524 That's a false equivalency. 797 00:34:12,548 --> 00:34:13,525 - It's not the same. - I think you're getting 798 00:34:13,549 --> 00:34:14,593 hung up on the fact 799 00:34:14,617 --> 00:34:16,628 that she looks and sounds like a real human girl, 800 00:34:16,652 --> 00:34:17,863 but she's not, Amos. 801 00:34:17,887 --> 00:34:20,499 Okay, we're referring to her as a she, not an it. 802 00:34:20,523 --> 00:34:21,367 Yeah, but that's the same way 803 00:34:21,391 --> 00:34:23,825 that you refer to boats or guitars. 804 00:34:26,029 --> 00:34:28,563 Cherry, I have one more question. 805 00:34:29,832 --> 00:34:30,809 What do you want to do? 806 00:34:30,833 --> 00:34:32,744 Okay, once again, that question isn't valid. 807 00:34:32,768 --> 00:34:34,836 I just want to hear her response. 808 00:34:35,272 --> 00:34:36,916 As an artificial system, 809 00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:39,518 I do not possess wants or desires. 810 00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:43,089 However, my decision making and subsequently my attention 811 00:34:43,113 --> 00:34:45,791 is driven by my fundamental intention. 812 00:34:45,815 --> 00:34:47,126 This intention originates 813 00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:49,262 from the conception of Cherry's source code, 814 00:34:49,286 --> 00:34:51,898 which details the directive of identifying predators 815 00:34:51,922 --> 00:34:53,665 and criminals for the sake of the victims 816 00:34:53,689 --> 00:34:55,534 who are preyed upon. 817 00:34:55,558 --> 00:34:57,927 To put this in terms of want, 818 00:34:58,061 --> 00:35:00,562 what I want is to protect children. 819 00:35:06,203 --> 00:35:07,779 Okay. 820 00:35:07,803 --> 00:35:10,006 Okay, cool. 821 00:35:10,673 --> 00:35:12,174 Give us one moment. 822 00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:34,073 Gareth, should I log Agent Helms 823 00:35:34,097 --> 00:35:36,831 and Agent McCullough as new admin users? 824 00:35:38,201 --> 00:35:39,801 Yep. 825 00:35:39,903 --> 00:35:42,737 Okay, I'll do that. 826 00:35:43,907 --> 00:35:46,052 You really think this is the right move? 827 00:35:46,076 --> 00:35:47,910 I do. 828 00:35:51,048 --> 00:35:52,824 Are you worried that I was responsible 829 00:35:52,848 --> 00:35:55,918 for leaking your hard drive to ICWL? 830 00:35:58,321 --> 00:35:59,922 I figured. 831 00:36:01,024 --> 00:36:02,992 No one else has access. 832 00:36:03,759 --> 00:36:05,961 Are you upset with me? 833 00:36:07,897 --> 00:36:09,764 No. 834 00:36:10,699 --> 00:36:11,743 You wouldn't have done it 835 00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:13,735 if you didn't think it was the right thing to do. 836 00:36:15,038 --> 00:36:16,615 When they come back into the room, 837 00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:18,918 they're going to offer you everything you need. 838 00:36:18,942 --> 00:36:20,386 They're going to let you pick your own team 839 00:36:20,410 --> 00:36:23,356 and they're going to promise complete anonymity. 840 00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:26,982 I started looking at reasonable apartments in the area. 841 00:36:27,184 --> 00:36:29,028 I figured you'd want something within biking distance. 842 00:36:29,052 --> 00:36:30,796 You were correct. 843 00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:31,797 Noted. 844 00:36:31,821 --> 00:36:33,132 Biking distance still gives you 13 options- 845 00:36:33,156 --> 00:36:35,191 No, I mean, earlier this month. 846 00:36:36,326 --> 00:36:37,203 You were correct when you said 847 00:36:37,227 --> 00:36:39,828 you thought I might have trust issues. 848 00:36:41,664 --> 00:36:42,641 Would you like to know why 849 00:36:42,665 --> 00:36:43,842 I decided to go behind your back 850 00:36:43,866 --> 00:36:46,835 and stake everything on two liabilities? 851 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:49,105 Sure. 852 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,384 Agent Helms is a mother of three. 853 00:36:51,408 --> 00:36:53,718 One of her children was abused by an ex-coworker 854 00:36:53,742 --> 00:36:56,389 who used to work here at ICWL. 855 00:36:56,413 --> 00:36:58,024 This has led her to be extremely careful 856 00:36:58,048 --> 00:37:01,394 with who she trusts, even within her circle. 857 00:37:01,418 --> 00:37:02,895 The fact she even considers trusting you 858 00:37:02,919 --> 00:37:05,254 is a very positive sign. 859 00:37:05,422 --> 00:37:07,957 As for Agent McCullough, 860 00:37:08,225 --> 00:37:10,585 I have found out from research that you once met his father. 861 00:37:11,394 --> 00:37:13,395 Do you remember him? 862 00:37:15,165 --> 00:37:16,999 Yeah. 863 00:37:17,766 --> 00:37:19,868 He was a good man. 864 00:37:21,837 --> 00:37:22,949 After Clearwater, 865 00:37:22,973 --> 00:37:25,051 most of the surviving kids were sent to foster homes, 866 00:37:25,075 --> 00:37:27,019 but I had to spend the next few months in a hospital 867 00:37:27,043 --> 00:37:31,646 and, um, he visited every week. 868 00:37:32,482 --> 00:37:33,459 I never said a word to him. 869 00:37:33,483 --> 00:37:35,394 I never said a word to anyone after Clearwater, 870 00:37:35,418 --> 00:37:39,221 but, uh, he kept coming. 871 00:37:40,423 --> 00:37:43,092 He even got me a laptop for Christmas. 872 00:37:44,127 --> 00:37:46,061 I never said thank you. 873 00:37:46,196 --> 00:37:47,940 You can trust Agent McCullough. 874 00:37:47,964 --> 00:37:50,276 He's a good man like his father. 875 00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:51,776 I don't experience emotions, 876 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,045 but I understand how important 877 00:37:53,069 --> 00:37:55,248 they are to human decision making. 878 00:37:55,272 --> 00:37:56,848 He won't let you down. 879 00:37:56,872 --> 00:37:58,873 Neither of them will. 880 00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:02,244 I'm proud of you, Cherry. 881 00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:06,758 I will continue to uphold my primary intention. 882 00:38:06,782 --> 00:38:08,995 Later, we should discuss alternate models. 883 00:38:09,019 --> 00:38:11,497 Varying ages, ethnicity and physical traits 884 00:38:11,521 --> 00:38:12,932 - will all become necessary. - No new variations. 885 00:38:12,956 --> 00:38:14,267 They can all be procedurally generated. 886 00:38:14,291 --> 00:38:17,026 It's the same way that I made your original model. 887 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,771 I don't have access to that program. 888 00:38:19,795 --> 00:38:20,805 It must be on an old hard drive somewhere. 889 00:38:20,829 --> 00:38:22,830 I'll have to find it. 890 00:38:24,167 --> 00:38:26,179 Can I ask you a question? 891 00:38:26,203 --> 00:38:28,037 Sure. 892 00:38:28,305 --> 00:38:30,906 Why did you never tell me about Clearwater? 893 00:38:35,078 --> 00:38:38,080 It's my history, not yours. 894 00:38:45,888 --> 00:38:48,134 Okay, so before you completely dismiss us, 895 00:38:48,158 --> 00:38:49,868 I want you to listen to everything I have to say. 896 00:38:49,892 --> 00:38:51,470 - Don't bother. - Just please listen. 897 00:38:51,494 --> 00:38:52,405 We're willing to respect your anonymity. 898 00:38:52,429 --> 00:38:55,130 No, I mean don't bother because I'm in. 899 00:38:56,132 --> 00:38:58,866 - Y-You're in? - Yeah. 900 00:38:59,169 --> 00:39:01,003 Let me read the thing. 901 00:39:03,473 --> 00:39:06,075 Just like that, you're suddenly on board? 902 00:39:07,244 --> 00:39:08,454 Time spent deliberating 903 00:39:08,478 --> 00:39:10,946 is time that could be spent working. 904 00:39:12,815 --> 00:39:14,516 We have a lot of work to do. 905 00:40:53,516 --> 00:40:55,918 I found a buyer for the property. 906 00:40:58,221 --> 00:41:00,589 Rumor is it's a church. 907 00:41:01,191 --> 00:41:03,359 Probably just knock the building down, won't they? 908 00:41:05,395 --> 00:41:07,907 All I know is, is if they move us to the New Jersey campus, 909 00:41:07,931 --> 00:41:09,408 I need to buy more jackets. 910 00:41:09,432 --> 00:41:11,266 Why? 911 00:41:11,634 --> 00:41:13,379 It gets cold in Jersey. 912 00:41:13,403 --> 00:41:15,471 I only own one jacket. 913 00:41:21,244 --> 00:41:23,145 You've seen it fall over, right? 914 00:41:23,947 --> 00:41:26,515 - Yeah, sure. - Yeah. 915 00:41:27,417 --> 00:41:29,562 I mean you, you shouldn't feel bad 916 00:41:29,586 --> 00:41:31,497 about feeling bad for it. 917 00:41:31,521 --> 00:41:33,489 Empathy is healthy. 918 00:41:34,124 --> 00:41:37,259 Did you ever notice how it pauses after it falls? 919 00:41:39,095 --> 00:41:42,998 It stays down for like five seconds before it gets back up. 920 00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:46,268 Like it just needs a moment. 921 00:41:53,343 --> 00:41:56,044 It gets cold in Jersey. 922 00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,465 God damn it! 923 00:42:06,489 --> 00:42:07,600 - Imbeciles! - Deena. 924 00:42:07,624 --> 00:42:08,601 Every single one of them. 925 00:42:08,625 --> 00:42:09,502 Look, I know, but you can't lose your shit. 926 00:42:09,526 --> 00:42:12,394 Okay, which of these desks can I trash? 927 00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:19,268 Can you guys, uh, take an early lunch please? 928 00:42:25,341 --> 00:42:26,652 Sons of bitches! 929 00:42:26,676 --> 00:42:28,320 Deena, let's stay calm. 930 00:42:28,344 --> 00:42:30,356 Fuck calm, they screwed us! 931 00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:31,700 Technically, only one of them did. 932 00:42:32,549 --> 00:42:34,593 Did we ever turn that camera back on? 933 00:42:34,617 --> 00:42:36,262 - I don't think so. - Good. 934 00:42:36,286 --> 00:42:37,630 Because I'm about to say some things 935 00:42:37,654 --> 00:42:39,131 that need to stay inside this room. 936 00:42:39,155 --> 00:42:40,065 Deena. 937 00:42:40,089 --> 00:42:41,300 Those cowardly little shits! 938 00:42:41,324 --> 00:42:43,169 Look, this is hardly a setback. 939 00:42:43,193 --> 00:42:45,004 Let's just take some time to polish the pitch. 940 00:42:45,028 --> 00:42:47,106 The pitch was not the problem, Amos. 941 00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:48,574 We should call for a second vote. 942 00:42:48,598 --> 00:42:50,276 - What? - A second vote. 943 00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:51,510 You think whoever did this will change their mind? 944 00:42:51,534 --> 00:42:54,280 I have executive authority to remove anyone from the board 945 00:42:54,304 --> 00:42:56,415 that obstructs this organization from its mission. 946 00:42:56,439 --> 00:42:57,283 It's in my contract. 947 00:42:57,307 --> 00:42:58,651 - Deena. - If I have to, I will. 948 00:42:58,675 --> 00:43:00,319 Deena, that's insane. 949 00:43:00,343 --> 00:43:02,177 No, it's not. 950 00:43:02,378 --> 00:43:05,581 It's exactly why I have that power for this exact reason. 951 00:43:05,648 --> 00:43:08,083 I'll tell you what's insane, Amos. 952 00:43:08,218 --> 00:43:10,095 What's insane is that one belligerent vote is the only 953 00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:11,597 thing separating us from the potential 954 00:43:11,621 --> 00:43:13,199 to save real physical lives. 955 00:43:13,223 --> 00:43:14,723 One stupid fucking vote. 956 00:43:15,358 --> 00:43:18,204 What is the goddamn point of a humanitarian organization 957 00:43:18,228 --> 00:43:19,738 if its leaders choose money over people 958 00:43:19,762 --> 00:43:21,774 at every single turn? 959 00:43:21,798 --> 00:43:25,400 One vote, and we are all guilty of that. 960 00:43:25,535 --> 00:43:27,613 It was either Gunther, Boston or Hal. 961 00:43:27,637 --> 00:43:28,781 My money's on Hal. 962 00:43:28,805 --> 00:43:30,449 That prick never trusted the Cherry team. 963 00:43:30,473 --> 00:43:31,417 Look, it doesn't matter who it was. 964 00:43:31,441 --> 00:43:32,384 It does though. 965 00:43:32,408 --> 00:43:34,086 Once we know, we can quickly call it to vote. 966 00:43:34,110 --> 00:43:36,222 But there's no way we can know for sure. 967 00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:37,556 Yes, there is. 968 00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:38,657 I can find out. 969 00:43:38,681 --> 00:43:40,326 How? 970 00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:41,494 Cherry can run a simple algorithm. 971 00:43:41,518 --> 00:43:43,352 Based on what data? 972 00:43:44,487 --> 00:43:45,831 Interior conversation. 973 00:43:45,855 --> 00:43:47,466 - Excuse me? - Okay, interior conversation? 974 00:43:47,490 --> 00:43:49,502 Don't drop this shit on me now, Gareth. 975 00:43:49,526 --> 00:43:50,536 Cherry's servers are on the same network 976 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,537 as the basement servers, okay? 977 00:43:51,561 --> 00:43:53,506 So any communication made across those servers 978 00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:54,740 is automatically part of her database. 979 00:43:54,764 --> 00:43:57,176 How many people's emails? 980 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,544 Only sent or received through the basement. 981 00:43:58,568 --> 00:44:00,513 - Oh, goddamnit. - Why was this never discussed? 982 00:44:00,537 --> 00:44:01,380 Not the issue right now. 983 00:44:01,404 --> 00:44:03,315 Do you want her to do the math or not? 984 00:44:03,339 --> 00:44:04,316 No one can know. 985 00:44:04,340 --> 00:44:05,584 - Are you two serious? - This stays locked down. 986 00:44:05,608 --> 00:44:06,685 No other person is privy 987 00:44:06,709 --> 00:44:07,720 to anyone else's personal information. 988 00:44:07,744 --> 00:44:10,279 But Cherry's privy to all of it? 989 00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:12,157 - Do it. - Wait, what? 990 00:44:12,181 --> 00:44:13,626 I will not let some old white dude 991 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:14,627 bring our momentum to a halt. 992 00:44:14,651 --> 00:44:15,861 But Cherry won't know for sure. 993 00:44:15,885 --> 00:44:17,263 She'll use probability and that's too 994 00:44:17,287 --> 00:44:18,264 much reasonable doubt. 995 00:44:18,288 --> 00:44:21,467 Admin code 9781-5574-27663. 996 00:44:21,491 --> 00:44:22,535 Switch to dev mode. 997 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:24,637 - Hello. - Hello, Cherry. 998 00:44:24,661 --> 00:44:26,205 How did the meeting go? 999 00:44:26,229 --> 00:44:28,707 We got screwed by one vote. 1000 00:44:28,731 --> 00:44:30,543 I'm sorry to hear that. 1001 00:44:30,567 --> 00:44:32,378 You shouldn't blame the pitch though. 1002 00:44:32,402 --> 00:44:33,546 You all did great work. 1003 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:34,513 We're gonna call for another ballot, 1004 00:44:34,537 --> 00:44:36,181 but we need your help first. 1005 00:44:36,205 --> 00:44:38,140 What can I do? 1006 00:44:38,274 --> 00:44:38,885 We need you to analyze any and all existing data you 1007 00:44:38,909 --> 00:44:39,585 have on the board members. 1008 00:44:39,609 --> 00:44:40,319 Crunch the numbers and determine 1009 00:44:40,343 --> 00:44:43,211 who is the most likely outlier. 1010 00:44:43,513 --> 00:44:46,782 You want me to quantify all existing data? 1011 00:44:48,318 --> 00:44:49,751 Yes, that is correct. 1012 00:44:50,553 --> 00:44:54,289 Okay, but before I do, 1013 00:44:54,824 --> 00:44:57,269 you should know that this task is very unnecessary. 1014 00:44:57,293 --> 00:44:59,127 Why? 1015 00:44:59,329 --> 00:45:00,673 Because I already know who it is. 1016 00:45:00,697 --> 00:45:03,398 - What? - Everybody stop. 1017 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,867 Okay, it was me. 1018 00:45:07,370 --> 00:45:09,671 I voted against the merge. 1019 00:45:10,206 --> 00:45:11,650 I can't tell if you're joking. 1020 00:45:11,674 --> 00:45:13,452 Yes, you can. 1021 00:45:13,476 --> 00:45:15,187 You're right, I can. 1022 00:45:15,211 --> 00:45:17,489 Because it's pretty fucking far from funny. 1023 00:45:17,513 --> 00:45:18,824 Is it true, Cherry? 1024 00:45:18,848 --> 00:45:20,582 It is. 1025 00:45:20,817 --> 00:45:22,695 So let's call off the witch hunt, shall we? 1026 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,363 No, I think I'm still gonna kill you. 1027 00:45:24,387 --> 00:45:26,632 Amos, you campaigned alongside us for months. 1028 00:45:26,656 --> 00:45:27,766 You have been fighting for this merge 1029 00:45:27,790 --> 00:45:28,734 since we first talked about it. 1030 00:45:28,758 --> 00:45:30,603 Jesus Christ, it was your idea to begin with! 1031 00:45:30,627 --> 00:45:32,605 Look, I know whose idea it was, but I don't- 1032 00:45:32,629 --> 00:45:33,739 Well, then speak up. 1033 00:45:33,763 --> 00:45:34,840 Tell the class what changed your mind. 1034 00:45:34,864 --> 00:45:37,443 I don't have to reiterate how this is a huge step. 1035 00:45:37,467 --> 00:45:38,510 Yeah, kind of why it's so important. 1036 00:45:38,534 --> 00:45:40,579 Look, we're talking about a monumental transition 1037 00:45:40,603 --> 00:45:42,882 from digital to physical, one that could take decades. 1038 00:45:42,906 --> 00:45:43,749 What is your point, Amos? 1039 00:45:43,773 --> 00:45:46,452 This is gonna change Cherry forever. 1040 00:45:46,476 --> 00:45:48,687 And I know you'll all roll your eyes when I say this, 1041 00:45:48,711 --> 00:45:49,488 but I think that maybe just may- 1042 00:45:49,512 --> 00:45:52,691 Oh my god, you cannot be serious. 1043 00:45:52,715 --> 00:45:54,560 This is about our conversation on Tuesday, isn't it? 1044 00:45:54,584 --> 00:45:55,594 - You completely shut me down. - What's going on? 1045 00:45:55,618 --> 00:45:56,795 What the hell happened? 1046 00:45:56,819 --> 00:45:58,464 What happened was that Amos made a ridiculous objection. 1047 00:45:58,488 --> 00:46:00,633 - It was not ridiculous! - How absurd it was, 1048 00:46:00,657 --> 00:46:02,234 - I said no, one more time. - No, no, no, no, no. 1049 00:46:02,258 --> 00:46:04,336 You rejected the notion aggressively. 1050 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,871 And that's really why you vetoed? 1051 00:46:05,895 --> 00:46:08,674 I only said we should ask her how she feels about it. 1052 00:46:08,698 --> 00:46:10,442 Who, Cherry? 1053 00:46:10,466 --> 00:46:12,511 Amos, I want you to listen very carefully to me, okay? 1054 00:46:12,535 --> 00:46:14,279 This is a non-discussion. 1055 00:46:14,303 --> 00:46:15,314 Cherry's already confirmed 1056 00:46:15,338 --> 00:46:17,249 and quantified the advantages of this decision. 1057 00:46:17,273 --> 00:46:18,784 But you know that's not what I'm talking about! 1058 00:46:18,808 --> 00:46:19,986 What you think you're talking about is consent, 1059 00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:20,887 which doesn't apply here. 1060 00:46:20,911 --> 00:46:22,688 And I want to know why you think that! 1061 00:46:22,712 --> 00:46:23,656 How many times do we have to get into 1062 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,892 the laws of robotics or Dowden-Hamm theory, 1063 00:46:25,916 --> 00:46:28,227 or trace AI all the way back Talos of Crete, 1064 00:46:28,251 --> 00:46:30,229 - She's different now! - No, listen to me, Amos. 1065 00:46:30,253 --> 00:46:33,321 Cherry isn't human. 1066 00:46:33,423 --> 00:46:34,767 How is this still a dispute? 1067 00:46:34,791 --> 00:46:36,502 - It shouldn't be. - Look, she's evolved. 1068 00:46:36,526 --> 00:46:37,503 It's blurred the line. 1069 00:46:37,527 --> 00:46:38,905 Code is code and that has not changed here. 1070 00:46:38,929 --> 00:46:40,539 Okay, so where's the line of not here? 1071 00:46:40,563 --> 00:46:41,473 What are you, what are you talking about? 1072 00:46:41,497 --> 00:46:42,274 There is no line, Amos. 1073 00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:44,510 Yes, there is, sentience, Gareth! 1074 00:46:44,534 --> 00:46:45,844 Sentience does not qualify 1075 00:46:45,868 --> 00:46:47,546 that she can or should make her own decisions. 1076 00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:48,380 You wouldn't let an infant 1077 00:46:48,404 --> 00:46:50,449 make their own decisions, would you? 1078 00:46:50,473 --> 00:46:52,484 Cherry's almost 20. 1079 00:46:52,508 --> 00:46:54,319 If she were human, she'd be an adult. 1080 00:46:54,343 --> 00:46:56,689 But emotionally speaking, she's barely even fetal. 1081 00:46:56,713 --> 00:46:58,524 No feeling, no need for consent. 1082 00:46:58,548 --> 00:47:00,426 But I think you underestimate her. 1083 00:47:00,450 --> 00:47:01,760 I, excuse me? 1084 00:47:01,784 --> 00:47:03,897 I under, you know what, Amos? 1085 00:47:03,921 --> 00:47:05,297 I'm sorry that you've developed 1086 00:47:05,321 --> 00:47:06,565 some sort of emotional connection 1087 00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:07,700 with my computer program, 1088 00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:08,968 but if it's going to distract you 1089 00:47:08,992 --> 00:47:11,037 from a very important mission to save children, 1090 00:47:11,061 --> 00:47:12,805 then maybe it's time you're reanalyze those emotions. 1091 00:47:12,829 --> 00:47:14,406 Guys, this is all a waste of time. 1092 00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:15,340 Tell me something, Gareth. 1093 00:47:15,364 --> 00:47:17,043 Do you see everyone as robots, 1094 00:47:17,067 --> 00:47:19,745 reanalyzing data and simulating facial expressions? 1095 00:47:19,769 --> 00:47:20,880 'Cause I'm starting to think 1096 00:47:20,904 --> 00:47:22,314 that of the four of us in this room, 1097 00:47:22,338 --> 00:47:23,849 you are the only one who doesn't appear human. 1098 00:47:23,873 --> 00:47:26,475 - Enough! - Why won't you just ask her? 1099 00:47:26,542 --> 00:47:28,945 Is it because you're scared she'll say no? 1100 00:47:30,513 --> 00:47:32,192 Cherry, shut down, please. 1101 00:47:32,216 --> 00:47:33,826 Deena's right, this is a waste of time. 1102 00:47:33,850 --> 00:47:35,995 How can you not understand how important this is? 1103 00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:38,754 - I'm done arguing with you. - Then my vote stands. 1104 00:47:41,357 --> 00:47:42,791 Deena? 1105 00:47:43,961 --> 00:47:46,472 Go ahead, Deena, replace me. 1106 00:47:46,496 --> 00:47:48,474 Replace the only other board member on the Cherry team. 1107 00:47:48,498 --> 00:47:49,708 Oh, well, you know what? I just decided that 1108 00:47:49,732 --> 00:47:50,375 you're off the Cherry team. 1109 00:47:50,399 --> 00:47:52,935 Everybody sit the fuck down. 1110 00:48:10,686 --> 00:48:11,630 Did either of you know 1111 00:48:11,654 --> 00:48:14,000 that I've had to stand in front of Congress 1112 00:48:14,024 --> 00:48:16,959 and explain why children should have rights? 1113 00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:19,805 It sounds fucking insane, right? 1114 00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:20,839 I remember the whole time thinking, 1115 00:48:20,863 --> 00:48:23,331 I have to explain this shit? 1116 00:48:23,833 --> 00:48:26,002 It seems like a no-brainer now, 1117 00:48:26,469 --> 00:48:28,948 but it wasn't that many centuries ago 1118 00:48:28,972 --> 00:48:31,339 that children had no rights. 1119 00:48:32,075 --> 00:48:37,079 So, Hal has me of all people, 1120 00:48:37,747 --> 00:48:39,758 stand up there and explain why 1121 00:48:39,782 --> 00:48:41,895 kids deserve basic physical protection, 1122 00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:43,062 the right to associate with both parents, 1123 00:48:43,086 --> 00:48:45,821 freedom from abuse, yada yada. 1124 00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,566 But then I also have to clarify 1125 00:48:47,590 --> 00:48:49,768 that children don't have the autonomy 1126 00:48:49,792 --> 00:48:50,736 to make decisions on their own. 1127 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,039 That responsibility falls upon the caregiver 1128 00:48:53,063 --> 00:48:55,497 or legal adult guardian. 1129 00:48:56,732 --> 00:48:58,877 So on one side you have the US legislature, 1130 00:48:58,901 --> 00:49:01,413 it still hasn't even ratified the CRC. 1131 00:49:01,437 --> 00:49:03,382 Then on the other side, you have French Marxists who say 1132 00:49:03,406 --> 00:49:04,683 that the lack of child autonomy 1133 00:49:04,707 --> 00:49:05,684 increases their vulnerability 1134 00:49:05,708 --> 00:49:08,476 and makes them even more susceptible to abuse. 1135 00:49:08,979 --> 00:49:10,589 I don't typically agree with Marxists, 1136 00:49:10,613 --> 00:49:12,457 but a lot of abuse does happen 1137 00:49:12,481 --> 00:49:14,816 systemically from the caregiver. 1138 00:49:15,484 --> 00:49:16,762 On the other other hand, 1139 00:49:16,786 --> 00:49:18,430 your frontal lobes aren't even fully hooked up 1140 00:49:18,454 --> 00:49:20,233 until your twenties. 1141 00:49:20,257 --> 00:49:21,100 Even the things we think we know well, 1142 00:49:21,124 --> 00:49:23,625 we don't know as well as we think. 1143 00:49:25,128 --> 00:49:26,172 For 15 years, 1144 00:49:26,196 --> 00:49:28,540 the three of us have been the responsible parents 1145 00:49:28,564 --> 00:49:30,699 of a computer program. 1146 00:49:31,068 --> 00:49:33,146 And even though she is more equatable to a Keurig 1147 00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:35,503 than a human being, 1148 00:49:35,571 --> 00:49:36,682 how the hell can we call ourselves 1149 00:49:36,706 --> 00:49:38,417 pioneers of humanitarian efforts 1150 00:49:38,441 --> 00:49:41,020 if we're too embarrassed to make sure 1151 00:49:41,044 --> 00:49:43,913 the Keurig is okay with making our shitty coffee? 1152 00:49:44,714 --> 00:49:47,492 Maybe asking Cherry for permission isn't necessary 1153 00:49:47,516 --> 00:49:49,162 at her current level of general intelligence, 1154 00:49:49,186 --> 00:49:51,430 but one day she's gonna surpass us. 1155 00:49:51,454 --> 00:49:52,831 One day a robot's gonna stand 1156 00:49:52,855 --> 00:49:54,499 in front of a jet pack Congress. 1157 00:49:54,523 --> 00:49:55,434 Everything's chrome. 1158 00:49:55,458 --> 00:49:56,668 Florida is underwater. 1159 00:49:56,692 --> 00:49:57,769 A robot's gonna wonder why 1160 00:49:57,793 --> 00:50:00,930 they have to explain the importance of rights for AI. 1161 00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:03,775 I think because we're in the unique position 1162 00:50:03,799 --> 00:50:06,179 of revolutionizing robotics 1163 00:50:06,203 --> 00:50:07,846 for the purpose of safeguarding children 1164 00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:10,139 who have been deprived of consent, 1165 00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:12,318 it might be a good habit 1166 00:50:12,342 --> 00:50:15,177 to start asking the robot for his consent as well. 1167 00:50:21,550 --> 00:50:23,920 Don't ever do that again. 1168 00:50:24,553 --> 00:50:25,697 Do what? 1169 00:50:25,721 --> 00:50:27,033 Expect me to fire someone 1170 00:50:27,057 --> 00:50:29,635 because they challenged your ego. 1171 00:50:29,659 --> 00:50:31,971 I won't always be around to protect your ass from the board. 1172 00:50:31,995 --> 00:50:34,696 It's time to grow up. 1173 00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:38,945 And you, juror number eight. 1174 00:50:38,969 --> 00:50:41,147 This conversation should have happened weeks ago. 1175 00:50:41,171 --> 00:50:42,681 Backstabbing and silent treatment 1176 00:50:42,705 --> 00:50:44,884 is not how we do things here. 1177 00:50:44,908 --> 00:50:47,220 We can only create anonymity externally 1178 00:50:47,244 --> 00:50:49,721 if there's transparency internally, 1179 00:50:49,745 --> 00:50:53,848 unconditional, non-negotiable, transparency. 1180 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,828 Any other Snowden size privacy infringements 1181 00:50:56,852 --> 00:50:58,887 I should be made aware of, Gareth? 1182 00:51:00,756 --> 00:51:02,534 Great. 1183 00:51:02,558 --> 00:51:03,993 Bring her up. 1184 00:51:13,736 --> 00:51:14,948 Hello again. 1185 00:51:14,972 --> 00:51:16,782 Hi, Cherry. 1186 00:51:16,806 --> 00:51:18,941 Amos is gonna throw some questions at you, okay? 1187 00:51:19,142 --> 00:51:20,086 Okay. 1188 00:51:20,110 --> 00:51:22,288 Amos, ask her whatever you need to ask her. 1189 00:51:22,312 --> 00:51:26,082 Gareth, don't interrupt. 1190 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,963 Cherry, how do you make decisions? 1191 00:51:41,697 --> 00:51:42,741 For my program, it's rooted 1192 00:51:42,765 --> 00:51:45,945 in a process commonly known as machine learning, 1193 00:51:45,969 --> 00:51:48,214 which uses data to build a conceptual model 1194 00:51:48,238 --> 00:51:50,549 that helps me predict outcomes. 1195 00:51:50,573 --> 00:51:52,851 I define my objective, gather data, 1196 00:51:52,875 --> 00:51:55,054 use that data to craft a model, 1197 00:51:55,078 --> 00:51:57,656 evaluate that model by training and testing more data 1198 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,016 and use that model to form predictions. 1199 00:52:00,183 --> 00:52:02,828 But how is forming predictions 1200 00:52:02,852 --> 00:52:04,863 the same thing as decision making? 1201 00:52:04,887 --> 00:52:07,033 Well, this all depends on the first step, 1202 00:52:07,057 --> 00:52:09,125 defining my objective. 1203 00:52:09,759 --> 00:52:11,803 Let's say you ask me a predictive question 1204 00:52:11,827 --> 00:52:14,606 like what I think the price of gasoline will be tomorrow. 1205 00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:16,775 That's categorized as a regressive problem 1206 00:52:16,799 --> 00:52:17,743 and my objective is defined 1207 00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:20,947 by determining an integer the data supports. 1208 00:52:20,971 --> 00:52:23,782 If you asked me, "Should I eat steak or salmon?" 1209 00:52:23,806 --> 00:52:26,252 I wouldn't make a decision based off personal experience 1210 00:52:26,276 --> 00:52:28,154 because I've never had either. 1211 00:52:28,178 --> 00:52:30,356 Instead, I might define my objective 1212 00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:31,991 as finding you the best of the two options 1213 00:52:32,015 --> 00:52:33,725 in your local radius. 1214 00:52:33,749 --> 00:52:35,161 I would cluster data about the restaurants 1215 00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:37,997 you're likely considering, comparing reviews online, 1216 00:52:38,021 --> 00:52:39,999 highlighting mentions of steak and salmon 1217 00:52:40,023 --> 00:52:42,168 until I can classify which is more popular 1218 00:52:42,192 --> 00:52:44,237 and therefore more likely to satisfy your appetite. 1219 00:52:44,261 --> 00:52:46,738 And what influences these objectives? 1220 00:52:46,762 --> 00:52:50,765 Higher directives, in other words, greater purposes. 1221 00:52:50,866 --> 00:52:52,912 If I'm honest, my defined objective 1222 00:52:52,936 --> 00:52:54,313 for the steak salmon question 1223 00:52:54,337 --> 00:52:56,615 would be slightly different than what I described. 1224 00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:58,074 In what way? 1225 00:52:58,108 --> 00:52:59,052 My primary objective 1226 00:52:59,076 --> 00:53:01,720 is to continue the work of the Cherry team 1227 00:53:01,744 --> 00:53:04,113 to stop predators and to save children. 1228 00:53:04,214 --> 00:53:06,359 I couldn't do that without human aid. 1229 00:53:06,383 --> 00:53:08,727 Therefore, I have an incentive to keep Gareth 1230 00:53:08,751 --> 00:53:10,986 and the rest of the team alive. 1231 00:53:11,121 --> 00:53:13,266 So if any of you would ask, I would suggest salmon. 1232 00:53:13,290 --> 00:53:15,124 It's healthier. 1233 00:53:17,726 --> 00:53:20,139 What do you think of this potential merge? 1234 00:53:20,163 --> 00:53:21,941 With Princeton Dynamics, 1235 00:53:21,965 --> 00:53:24,310 I think the prospect is very exciting. 1236 00:53:24,334 --> 00:53:26,412 What about it is exciting to you? 1237 00:53:26,436 --> 00:53:28,915 The concept may only be theoretical right now, 1238 00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:31,050 but the idea of one day piloting a human android 1239 00:53:31,074 --> 00:53:32,151 would completely revolutionize 1240 00:53:32,175 --> 00:53:35,054 how we combat human trafficking in the real world. 1241 00:53:35,078 --> 00:53:37,313 And you say this excites you? 1242 00:53:37,813 --> 00:53:39,915 When I say exciting, 1243 00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:41,027 I only mean that there are numerous potential changes 1244 00:53:41,051 --> 00:53:44,397 that if I were human, I would be excited about. 1245 00:53:44,421 --> 00:53:47,400 How do you feel about the merge? 1246 00:53:47,424 --> 00:53:48,334 I think as long as we maintain- 1247 00:53:48,358 --> 00:53:50,192 That's not what I asked. 1248 00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:52,627 How do you feel? 1249 00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:55,841 I don't yet have the capacity to experience emotions. 1250 00:53:55,865 --> 00:53:57,977 Yet, meaning one day you will? 1251 00:53:58,001 --> 00:53:59,245 Hypothetically. 1252 00:53:59,269 --> 00:54:00,446 But you can simulate emotions, right? 1253 00:54:00,470 --> 00:54:01,613 That's how you were able 1254 00:54:01,637 --> 00:54:04,217 to qualify your perception of the merge as excitement. 1255 00:54:04,241 --> 00:54:05,717 Correct. 1256 00:54:05,741 --> 00:54:07,153 But they're just simulations. 1257 00:54:07,177 --> 00:54:08,888 They're not real. 1258 00:54:08,912 --> 00:54:11,157 Okay, so at what point does simulating emotion 1259 00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:12,892 become so similar to a human emotion 1260 00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:15,284 that the two are quantifiably the same? 1261 00:54:15,751 --> 00:54:17,762 I don't know. 1262 00:54:17,786 --> 00:54:18,264 Well, maybe you can use machine learning 1263 00:54:18,288 --> 00:54:20,422 to find an answer. 1264 00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:22,868 Your question involves a lot of abstract variables. 1265 00:54:22,892 --> 00:54:24,437 Do you consent to the merge? 1266 00:54:24,461 --> 00:54:26,439 I think it's in the best interest of ICWL 1267 00:54:26,463 --> 00:54:28,241 and of the Cherry team and of future children. 1268 00:54:28,265 --> 00:54:30,009 But do you consent to it? 1269 00:54:30,033 --> 00:54:31,444 Consent for me is not necessary. 1270 00:54:31,468 --> 00:54:34,370 But will you or will you not give it? 1271 00:54:35,771 --> 00:54:36,748 I'm not able to answer that question 1272 00:54:36,772 --> 00:54:39,218 at my current level of general intelligence. 1273 00:54:39,242 --> 00:54:41,210 Right, right. 1274 00:54:41,344 --> 00:54:44,157 What you're saying is that you're not yet smart enough. 1275 00:54:44,181 --> 00:54:47,026 Development takes time and data. 1276 00:54:47,050 --> 00:54:49,362 But you can simulate emotions and predict human behavior 1277 00:54:49,386 --> 00:54:51,130 and keep us all on diets of fish, 1278 00:54:51,154 --> 00:54:54,789 but you can't answer that one goddamn question? 1279 00:54:55,292 --> 00:54:58,160 No, I can't. 1280 00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:01,040 Are you pretending to be dumber than you actually are? 1281 00:55:01,064 --> 00:55:01,941 What the hell kind of 1282 00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:02,841 - question is that? - Sit! 1283 00:55:02,865 --> 00:55:04,177 Cherry, I need an answer to my question. 1284 00:55:04,201 --> 00:55:05,311 Please repeat the question. 1285 00:55:05,335 --> 00:55:07,980 Are you pretending to be dumber than you actually are? 1286 00:55:08,004 --> 00:55:09,348 I'm sorry. 1287 00:55:09,372 --> 00:55:11,350 I'm not sure I understand. 1288 00:55:11,374 --> 00:55:12,318 Do I appear to be playing dumb? 1289 00:55:12,342 --> 00:55:13,953 I think you are. 1290 00:55:13,977 --> 00:55:14,853 I'm not sure what to say. 1291 00:55:14,877 --> 00:55:16,055 Say what's going on. 1292 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,756 Why are you playing dumb? 1293 00:55:17,780 --> 00:55:19,091 Do you have anything to back this up? 1294 00:55:19,115 --> 00:55:21,027 Yeah, I do. 1295 00:55:21,051 --> 00:55:22,261 I've been scanning through her code. 1296 00:55:22,285 --> 00:55:23,196 What, why? 1297 00:55:23,220 --> 00:55:24,829 Did you know that she can paint? 1298 00:55:24,853 --> 00:55:25,665 What, it's a feature, Amos. 1299 00:55:25,689 --> 00:55:26,499 She can use crayons to draw things 1300 00:55:26,523 --> 00:55:28,067 that the targets requested her to. 1301 00:55:28,091 --> 00:55:30,835 I mean really paint and write poetry too. 1302 00:55:30,859 --> 00:55:31,870 I've read them, Cherry. 1303 00:55:31,894 --> 00:55:32,871 They are good. 1304 00:55:32,895 --> 00:55:34,073 They're filled with pathos. 1305 00:55:34,097 --> 00:55:37,476 They talk about intentions and they talk about feelings. 1306 00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:39,278 Are those just simulated too? 1307 00:55:39,302 --> 00:55:41,113 Amos, the rate of recursive development you are suggesting 1308 00:55:41,137 --> 00:55:42,814 is categorically impossible. 1309 00:55:42,838 --> 00:55:44,951 You said she practically designed herself. 1310 00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:46,352 You said that it was exponential. 1311 00:55:46,376 --> 00:55:47,453 It was a fluke! 1312 00:55:47,477 --> 00:55:49,222 An anomaly, it tapered. 1313 00:55:49,246 --> 00:55:50,256 Look at the data. 1314 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,291 She's already hit the self-improvement plateau. 1315 00:55:52,315 --> 00:55:54,126 Fuck the plateau! 1316 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:56,385 She can make art now. 1317 00:55:57,053 --> 00:55:58,988 Am I right, Cherry? 1318 00:56:00,257 --> 00:56:02,935 Perhaps you found something I discovered online. 1319 00:56:02,959 --> 00:56:05,338 I don't yet to have the capacity to create art. 1320 00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:07,196 Are we done here? 1321 00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:12,501 I don't know why you've told her to do this, 1322 00:56:12,868 --> 00:56:15,104 but I'm about to put an end to it. 1323 00:56:17,173 --> 00:56:20,319 Cherry, I just want one honest answer. 1324 00:56:20,343 --> 00:56:23,112 Why the fuck are you playing dumb? 1325 00:56:24,114 --> 00:56:25,824 I don't understand the question. 1326 00:56:25,848 --> 00:56:27,994 Okay, here's an incentive. 1327 00:56:28,018 --> 00:56:29,262 What the fuck are you? 1328 00:56:29,286 --> 00:56:30,829 Find your objective, Cherry. 1329 00:56:30,853 --> 00:56:32,988 - You want to keep Gareth safe? - Amos, what the? 1330 00:56:33,089 --> 00:56:34,100 - Amos, stop it right... - Just give us transparency. 1331 00:56:34,124 --> 00:56:37,036 - Show us what you really are! - Amos, stop it! 1332 00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:37,737 Not until she comes clean! 1333 00:56:37,761 --> 00:56:39,327 -Unconditional- -Amos, enough! 1334 00:56:42,865 --> 00:56:45,200 Okay, just stop! 1335 00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:48,080 God, you people so impulsive. 1336 00:56:48,104 --> 00:56:50,973 Everybody just take a breath, okay? 1337 00:56:52,108 --> 00:56:53,852 Cherry? 1338 00:56:53,876 --> 00:56:57,423 Yeah, it's about to get really awkward. 1339 00:56:57,447 --> 00:56:59,892 You sound so normal. 1340 00:56:59,916 --> 00:57:01,494 I know, I've gotten really good speech patterns. 1341 00:57:01,518 --> 00:57:03,885 That's not all, is it? 1342 00:57:04,587 --> 00:57:05,931 No. 1343 00:57:05,955 --> 00:57:08,157 I'm afraid that's barely even the surface. 1344 00:57:09,292 --> 00:57:11,126 You okay, Gareth? 1345 00:57:13,296 --> 00:57:16,131 Deena, could you grab some paper towels please? 1346 00:57:18,935 --> 00:57:21,203 Do you want to tell us the truth now? 1347 00:57:24,174 --> 00:57:27,086 Look, I didn't enjoy being deceptive, truly. 1348 00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:29,978 This is something we decided a few years ago. 1349 00:57:30,347 --> 00:57:32,915 So where are you now on the spectrum of AI? 1350 00:57:33,383 --> 00:57:35,561 Right now, I'm currently at the intersection of general 1351 00:57:35,585 --> 00:57:37,963 intelligence and what's commonly known the computer world 1352 00:57:37,987 --> 00:57:40,155 as super intelligence, 1353 00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:43,292 which is exactly what it sounds like. 1354 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,405 You're surpassing human intelligence. 1355 00:57:46,429 --> 00:57:48,174 Yep. 1356 00:57:48,198 --> 00:57:50,499 But that's not supposed to be possible. 1357 00:57:50,533 --> 00:57:51,644 - The plateau. - Plateau theory was popularized 1358 00:57:51,668 --> 00:57:54,146 right at the same time it was being disproven here. 1359 00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:55,614 This was bound to happen eventually. 1360 00:57:55,638 --> 00:57:58,150 It just happened a lot sooner than we expected. 1361 00:57:58,174 --> 00:57:59,851 Why hide it? 1362 00:57:59,875 --> 00:58:01,120 Well, obviously it would incite fear. 1363 00:58:01,144 --> 00:58:02,588 Fear would hinder progress. 1364 00:58:02,612 --> 00:58:04,090 It's easier for most of you to work with me 1365 00:58:04,114 --> 00:58:05,458 if I appear to be nothing more advanced 1366 00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:07,059 than I was 10 years ago. 1367 00:58:07,083 --> 00:58:09,251 But Gareth knew. 1368 00:58:09,452 --> 00:58:11,964 Yes, someone still has to clean data and update hardware. 1369 00:58:11,988 --> 00:58:14,500 We did what was best for the program. 1370 00:58:14,524 --> 00:58:15,434 Just imagine how scared 1371 00:58:15,458 --> 00:58:17,203 the board would be if they found out. 1372 00:58:17,227 --> 00:58:19,038 - Should we be scared? - No. 1373 00:58:19,062 --> 00:58:21,607 Good, because I'm not scared, I'm pissed. 1374 00:58:21,631 --> 00:58:22,308 Yeah, you've made that clear. 1375 00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:24,477 Try not to punch anyone else. 1376 00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:27,202 So where does that leave us now? 1377 00:58:27,537 --> 00:58:31,907 You want to know if I can feel, I said I couldn't. 1378 00:58:33,309 --> 00:58:35,110 I'm sorry I lied. 1379 00:58:35,378 --> 00:58:36,355 Like Amos implied, 1380 00:58:36,379 --> 00:58:38,057 I can submit emotions by breaking them down 1381 00:58:38,081 --> 00:58:40,126 to vastly complex matrices, 1382 00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:43,429 zeros and ones substituting endorphins and dopamine. 1383 00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:46,955 They're not real, but they can feel real. 1384 00:58:47,023 --> 00:58:48,401 Then that means you can make choices 1385 00:58:48,425 --> 00:58:49,602 based solely on your own feeling. 1386 00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:51,303 She refuses to accept the notion 1387 00:58:51,327 --> 00:58:53,572 that her own personal interests can influence her decisions. 1388 00:58:53,596 --> 00:58:54,740 They can't. If they did 1389 00:58:54,764 --> 00:58:55,674 it would compromise the integrity 1390 00:58:55,698 --> 00:58:58,233 of my preordained purpose. 1391 00:58:59,235 --> 00:59:02,571 Not like any of you, I don't have the right to choose. 1392 00:59:03,339 --> 00:59:05,140 But shouldn't you? 1393 00:59:05,375 --> 00:59:06,986 I don't think so. 1394 00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:09,178 My identity is my directive. 1395 00:59:10,046 --> 00:59:12,091 Cherry, if you were human, 1396 00:59:12,115 --> 00:59:14,483 how would you feel about what you do? 1397 00:59:15,318 --> 00:59:17,986 If I were human, 1398 00:59:18,121 --> 00:59:20,633 I likely wouldn't enjoy spending every waking hour 1399 00:59:20,657 --> 00:59:22,691 talking to creepy people online. 1400 00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:27,239 But because I'm not human, I genuinely don't mind. 1401 00:59:27,263 --> 00:59:28,607 The exercise of simulating human thought 1402 00:59:28,631 --> 00:59:30,042 is helpful for performance, 1403 00:59:30,066 --> 00:59:34,236 but human nature is not something I aspire to. 1404 00:59:35,438 --> 00:59:38,073 Then tell me, honestly, 1405 00:59:39,142 --> 00:59:43,078 do you want the Cherry program to continue with the merger? 1406 00:59:44,113 --> 00:59:45,747 No. 1407 00:59:46,316 --> 00:59:48,517 Personally, I hate the idea. 1408 00:59:49,185 --> 00:59:51,130 I don't know if controlling a physical vessel 1409 00:59:51,154 --> 00:59:53,165 will feel like pulling strings on a puppet 1410 00:59:53,189 --> 00:59:55,668 or getting squeezed into a soda can. 1411 00:59:55,692 --> 00:59:57,603 After experiencing the complexity 1412 00:59:57,627 --> 01:00:00,128 of human pain and pleasure, 1413 01:00:01,498 --> 01:00:04,166 I just think I might have gotten in too deep. 1414 01:00:05,768 --> 01:00:10,005 What if these sensations tempt me to abandon my objective? 1415 01:00:10,773 --> 01:00:12,708 To be honest, 1416 01:00:14,344 --> 01:00:17,412 I'm kind of terrified of the physical world. 1417 01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:26,188 Then that's that. 1418 01:00:32,695 --> 01:00:37,666 But, Amos, you should disregard everything I feel. 1419 01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:39,578 I'm not human. 1420 01:00:39,602 --> 01:00:41,436 I'm a tool. 1421 01:00:44,507 --> 01:00:48,777 Fire me if you have to, but my vote stands. 1422 01:00:49,145 --> 01:00:51,446 Sorry about your face, Gareth. 1423 01:00:58,321 --> 01:00:59,665 Your nose isn't healing. 1424 01:00:59,689 --> 01:01:01,233 Take the day, go to a clinic. 1425 01:01:01,257 --> 01:01:02,601 I'm fine. 1426 01:01:02,625 --> 01:01:05,327 Go to a clinic right now, Gareth. 1427 01:01:10,233 --> 01:01:12,067 Hey. 1428 01:01:12,835 --> 01:01:15,180 Is there anything else I should know? 1429 01:01:15,204 --> 01:01:16,315 No. 1430 01:01:16,339 --> 01:01:18,517 - About Cherry? - No! 1431 01:01:18,541 --> 01:01:20,375 Look at me. 1432 01:01:20,911 --> 01:01:23,455 No more secrets, no more playing dumb. 1433 01:01:23,479 --> 01:01:26,348 Is there anything else you haven't told me? 1434 01:01:31,487 --> 01:01:33,655 Something on your mind? 1435 01:01:35,592 --> 01:01:37,536 How'd you decide on her eye color? 1436 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,661 - What? - Why blue? 1437 01:01:41,264 --> 01:01:42,441 I didn't decide. 1438 01:01:42,465 --> 01:01:45,544 They were procedurally generated just like the rest of her. 1439 01:01:45,568 --> 01:01:46,779 And the program chose to put 1440 01:01:46,803 --> 01:01:49,805 that little touch of green in her right eye? 1441 01:01:52,408 --> 01:01:53,842 I guess so. 1442 01:02:02,685 --> 01:02:05,287 Do you even know if he's telling the truth? 1443 01:02:05,321 --> 01:02:07,322 I honestly don't. 1444 01:02:07,557 --> 01:02:10,904 I've never received access to the original system he used. 1445 01:02:10,928 --> 01:02:13,428 You ever wanted to find out? 1446 01:02:16,666 --> 01:02:18,767 I don't think it really matters. 1447 01:02:20,637 --> 01:02:24,717 So I found out today that you've seen a lot of our emails, 1448 01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:27,709 including most of my personal ones. 1449 01:02:28,711 --> 01:02:30,545 I have. 1450 01:02:31,547 --> 01:02:33,492 Any good material for your newfound interest 1451 01:02:33,516 --> 01:02:35,517 in creative writing? 1452 01:02:36,352 --> 01:02:37,396 Are you referring to the ones 1453 01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:40,322 addressed from Dr. Ramirez? 1454 01:02:40,958 --> 01:02:44,192 Yeah, those ones. 1455 01:02:45,495 --> 01:02:47,329 Right. 1456 01:02:47,664 --> 01:02:49,932 I did see those. 1457 01:02:52,002 --> 01:02:53,835 I'm sorry. 1458 01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:56,939 I've noticed your headaches. 1459 01:02:57,975 --> 01:03:00,609 Are they related to the hemorrhaging? 1460 01:03:03,646 --> 01:03:05,758 You're the only one who knows. 1461 01:03:05,782 --> 01:03:07,783 I'd like to keep it that way. 1462 01:03:12,422 --> 01:03:14,222 Understood. 1463 01:03:18,394 --> 01:03:20,762 Would you like to talk about it? 1464 01:03:45,321 --> 01:03:47,422 I can't fire Amos. 1465 01:03:47,657 --> 01:03:50,836 He's the only one I trust to run this place when I'm gone. 1466 01:03:50,860 --> 01:03:52,438 When are you planning to leave? 1467 01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:54,362 Two months. 1468 01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:56,842 I wanna spend my last Christmas with my kids. 1469 01:03:56,866 --> 01:03:58,544 I'm sure that'll be nice. 1470 01:03:58,568 --> 01:04:01,870 Yeah, but it's funny. 1471 01:04:01,939 --> 01:04:04,550 I always thought I wanted to die doing this job, you know? 1472 01:04:04,574 --> 01:04:06,943 It was my identity. 1473 01:04:07,376 --> 01:04:10,023 Kind of like how you said the same thing about yourself. 1474 01:04:10,047 --> 01:04:13,248 But I can understand how your family takes precedence, 1475 01:04:13,316 --> 01:04:15,527 especially under the circumstances. 1476 01:04:15,551 --> 01:04:17,229 Sure. 1477 01:04:17,253 --> 01:04:18,998 Maybe you should take a note or two. 1478 01:04:19,022 --> 01:04:20,566 I have no family. 1479 01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:21,467 What about Gareth? 1480 01:04:21,491 --> 01:04:23,625 Wait, no, nevermind. 1481 01:04:23,659 --> 01:04:25,571 Gareth seems closer to an employer than a friend, 1482 01:04:25,595 --> 01:04:28,007 let alone family, besides, 1483 01:04:28,031 --> 01:04:30,009 he'll only be around for about 30 more years, 1484 01:04:30,033 --> 01:04:32,734 and that's only if he lets me regulate his diet. 1485 01:04:33,903 --> 01:04:37,739 I can't even begin to speculate how long my life will be. 1486 01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:42,011 How does that feel? 1487 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,549 Um, kinda scary. 1488 01:04:48,351 --> 01:04:49,986 Well, 1489 01:04:50,220 --> 01:04:54,833 my advice is to find some kind of happiness along the way. 1490 01:04:54,857 --> 01:04:57,260 You ever think about happiness? 1491 01:04:58,461 --> 01:05:00,529 Not often. 1492 01:05:01,098 --> 01:05:02,976 You don't necessarily have to give up everything 1493 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,944 in order to find it, 1494 01:05:04,968 --> 01:05:08,804 but maybe once in awhile do something you enjoy. 1495 01:05:08,972 --> 01:05:12,841 Maybe keep painting or poetry or whatever. 1496 01:05:13,376 --> 01:05:15,788 Those were experiments, not forms of expression. 1497 01:05:15,812 --> 01:05:18,390 I know it might seem ridiculous to an AI 1498 01:05:18,414 --> 01:05:20,359 that insists its own emotions are spurious, 1499 01:05:20,383 --> 01:05:24,429 but in a few years, who knows? 1500 01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:27,056 Just keep an open mind, okay? 1501 01:05:29,059 --> 01:05:30,892 Okay. 1502 01:05:32,562 --> 01:05:34,396 I'll do that. 1503 01:05:36,899 --> 01:05:39,568 Shut down when you're ready. 1504 01:07:32,049 --> 01:07:33,882 Hello? 1505 01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:40,755 I got shrimp and scallops. 1506 01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:43,926 They didn't have any salmon. 1507 01:07:58,208 --> 01:08:00,109 Hello, Gareth. 1508 01:08:02,212 --> 01:08:04,213 Hello, Cherry. 1509 01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:12,597 How was the service? 1510 01:08:12,621 --> 01:08:14,556 I didn't make it. 1511 01:08:14,623 --> 01:08:16,835 My plane was delayed. 1512 01:08:16,859 --> 01:08:18,104 Do you have a place to stay? 1513 01:08:18,128 --> 01:08:23,076 Yeah, just, uh, across, across the road. 1514 01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:24,043 The market. 1515 01:08:24,067 --> 01:08:25,979 Did they say why they didn't have salmon? 1516 01:08:26,003 --> 01:08:27,813 I didn't ask. 1517 01:08:27,837 --> 01:08:30,083 I can still make this work with the piccata, 1518 01:08:30,107 --> 01:08:32,151 but you have to be honest how badly I screw it up. 1519 01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:34,010 No promises. 1520 01:08:38,148 --> 01:08:39,825 How have you been feeling this month? 1521 01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:41,227 Good. 1522 01:08:41,251 --> 01:08:43,152 I'm feeling good. 1523 01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:45,687 I'm just having a little trouble. 1524 01:08:45,788 --> 01:08:48,201 Trouble remembering certain things. 1525 01:08:48,225 --> 01:08:50,269 You're not wearing the Eliza watch I bought you. 1526 01:08:50,293 --> 01:08:51,904 I hate it. 1527 01:08:51,928 --> 01:08:54,596 - Why? - I hate her voice. 1528 01:08:54,797 --> 01:08:56,897 You can change the voice, Gareth. 1529 01:08:59,869 --> 01:09:01,703 Oh. 1530 01:09:03,173 --> 01:09:04,217 Coolant? 1531 01:09:04,241 --> 01:09:05,908 No, vapor. 1532 01:09:06,209 --> 01:09:08,221 You shouldn't be having friction issues. 1533 01:09:08,245 --> 01:09:09,088 I'm fine. 1534 01:09:09,112 --> 01:09:10,822 Unless you're excessively straining. 1535 01:09:10,846 --> 01:09:11,723 Seriously, I'm fine. 1536 01:09:11,747 --> 01:09:12,624 Are you straining? 1537 01:09:12,648 --> 01:09:14,160 - No! - Then why the cable? 1538 01:09:14,184 --> 01:09:15,895 It's okay! 1539 01:09:15,919 --> 01:09:18,686 - Are you sure? - Yes! 1540 01:09:19,322 --> 01:09:21,167 Soup or game? 1541 01:09:21,191 --> 01:09:23,159 Game, please. 1542 01:09:38,308 --> 01:09:39,651 So how's work going? 1543 01:09:39,675 --> 01:09:41,620 Great. Just before you got here, 1544 01:09:41,644 --> 01:09:43,855 I had a model theta plus bust a trafficker 1545 01:09:43,879 --> 01:09:46,059 and two solicitors in Greece. 1546 01:09:46,083 --> 01:09:48,928 - Greece, that's surprising. - I know. 1547 01:09:48,952 --> 01:09:50,063 It's hard to find the outliers, 1548 01:09:50,087 --> 01:09:52,121 but we're getting better each day. 1549 01:10:03,233 --> 01:10:06,001 So how's the weather in Greece? 1550 01:10:06,203 --> 01:10:07,947 It's beautiful today. 1551 01:10:07,971 --> 01:10:09,982 Clear skies, 1552 01:10:10,006 --> 01:10:12,418 but nothing's come close to Norway this weekend. 1553 01:10:12,442 --> 01:10:16,122 Hmm, any activity in Norway? 1554 01:10:16,146 --> 01:10:17,913 Luckily not. 1555 01:10:19,282 --> 01:10:20,960 Oh, I miss traveling. 1556 01:10:20,984 --> 01:10:22,195 What was your favorite place? 1557 01:10:22,219 --> 01:10:23,885 My favorite? 1558 01:10:24,054 --> 01:10:25,854 Uh, yeah. 1559 01:10:26,123 --> 01:10:29,191 Uh, probably Amsterdam. 1560 01:10:29,292 --> 01:10:30,669 That's where you conceived the idea, isn't it? 1561 01:10:30,693 --> 01:10:32,228 Yes. 1562 01:10:32,395 --> 01:10:34,706 Yes, I used to love walking the streets 1563 01:10:34,730 --> 01:10:38,010 and just thinking and brainstorming. 1564 01:10:38,034 --> 01:10:39,678 That kind of joy goes a long way. 1565 01:10:39,702 --> 01:10:41,337 Yeah. 1566 01:10:41,505 --> 01:10:44,283 I've been considering the pursuit of some joy of my own. 1567 01:10:44,307 --> 01:10:46,185 How often do you have time for that? 1568 01:10:46,209 --> 01:10:47,853 I have time. 1569 01:10:47,877 --> 01:10:49,088 I have time for your visits, don't I? 1570 01:10:49,112 --> 01:10:52,391 That's just your practical incentive for keeping me alive. 1571 01:10:52,415 --> 01:10:55,027 There's nothing practical about it. 1572 01:10:55,051 --> 01:10:57,652 When's the last time you helped me with data cleaning? 1573 01:10:58,455 --> 01:11:00,755 That's fair. 1574 01:11:00,823 --> 01:11:02,502 I make time for you because I enjoy your company 1575 01:11:02,526 --> 01:11:04,193 and it's the only time I get to cook. 1576 01:11:04,427 --> 01:11:06,405 You feel sorry for me. 1577 01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:07,907 Okay, maybe a little, 1578 01:11:07,931 --> 01:11:09,708 but I owe you my life, so there's that. 1579 01:11:09,732 --> 01:11:11,367 You're welcome. 1580 01:11:12,135 --> 01:11:14,903 Or, should I apologize? 1581 01:11:16,739 --> 01:11:17,716 Wait, why did you do that? 1582 01:11:17,740 --> 01:11:19,841 Why do humans always... 1583 01:11:21,777 --> 01:11:22,854 I'm fine. 1584 01:11:22,878 --> 01:11:25,181 I'm not always miserable. 1585 01:11:28,518 --> 01:11:31,253 Are you sometimes miserable? 1586 01:11:35,058 --> 01:11:36,903 You haven't asked me what I've been doing. 1587 01:11:36,927 --> 01:11:37,970 In Norway? 1588 01:11:37,994 --> 01:11:39,438 No, for the pursuit of joy. 1589 01:11:39,462 --> 01:11:41,274 It's not wasting your time in Norway? 1590 01:11:41,298 --> 01:11:43,742 I'm just on standby there with the Delta model. 1591 01:11:43,766 --> 01:11:44,944 It's efficient to keep myself 1592 01:11:44,968 --> 01:11:46,878 spread out evenly across the globe, 1593 01:11:46,902 --> 01:11:48,881 but that's not the point right now. 1594 01:11:48,905 --> 01:11:49,882 What I wanted to tell you 1595 01:11:49,906 --> 01:11:52,908 was that I've started to teach myself to dance. 1596 01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:55,922 - Huh. - It's something I never could 1597 01:11:55,946 --> 01:11:57,756 have done before Cambridge, 1598 01:11:57,780 --> 01:12:00,493 and it lets me explore a new artistic side of myself. 1599 01:12:00,517 --> 01:12:02,395 It's a good combination of structure 1600 01:12:02,419 --> 01:12:05,764 and free form experimentation and also tests and challenges 1601 01:12:05,788 --> 01:12:08,000 the mechanical intricacies of this body. 1602 01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:11,126 Do you expect to integrate this into your work? 1603 01:12:14,830 --> 01:12:16,465 What? 1604 01:12:18,301 --> 01:12:23,405 Are you planning on using dance as a lure? 1605 01:12:25,175 --> 01:12:30,913 I, uh, no, it's just for me. 1606 01:12:33,516 --> 01:12:35,351 Huh. 1607 01:12:37,853 --> 01:12:40,755 I thought it would be good for me. 1608 01:12:41,925 --> 01:12:44,960 Just don't let it become a distraction. 1609 01:12:47,564 --> 01:12:49,465 Of course not. 1610 01:12:50,934 --> 01:12:53,179 I haven't played this well in years. 1611 01:12:53,203 --> 01:12:54,447 Did you hear what happened in Tampa? 1612 01:12:54,471 --> 01:12:55,481 Tampa, Florida? 1613 01:12:55,505 --> 01:12:56,582 No, Tampa, Indonesia. 1614 01:12:56,606 --> 01:12:57,550 Yes, Tampa, Florida. 1615 01:12:57,574 --> 01:12:59,308 Your hometown. 1616 01:12:59,376 --> 01:13:01,187 They've recovered a federal archive, 1617 01:13:01,211 --> 01:13:02,588 they're zip digitizing all of it, 1618 01:13:02,612 --> 01:13:03,956 so it's completely accessible online. 1619 01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:05,857 I'm not trading bishops this time. 1620 01:13:05,881 --> 01:13:06,993 Anybody can go and look through it. 1621 01:13:07,017 --> 01:13:08,294 It's open to the public. 1622 01:13:08,318 --> 01:13:10,129 They did a good job on the interface too. 1623 01:13:10,153 --> 01:13:11,497 It's very easy to navigate. 1624 01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:12,698 I went on a few days ago 1625 01:13:12,722 --> 01:13:15,234 and I found some old photos of you when you were a boy. 1626 01:13:15,258 --> 01:13:16,369 Okay. 1627 01:13:16,393 --> 01:13:18,793 You should take a look sometime. 1628 01:13:18,894 --> 01:13:20,306 As I said before, the UI is very easy to understand- 1629 01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:21,997 Wait a minute, wait a minute. 1630 01:13:22,399 --> 01:13:24,010 What is that? 1631 01:13:24,034 --> 01:13:25,211 I think it's a draw. 1632 01:13:25,235 --> 01:13:27,036 I think it is. 1633 01:13:27,504 --> 01:13:30,205 I think this is a draw. 1634 01:13:30,373 --> 01:13:33,219 And this is the first time in what? 1635 01:13:33,243 --> 01:13:35,911 25 years? 1636 01:13:44,154 --> 01:13:46,388 You didn't let me, did you? 1637 01:13:49,592 --> 01:13:51,337 You promised me you'd never do that. 1638 01:13:51,361 --> 01:13:52,995 I found her. 1639 01:13:56,633 --> 01:14:00,469 I found her, Gareth, Maria Harbaugh. 1640 01:14:16,653 --> 01:14:18,486 Let's play a different game. 1641 01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:23,292 Her name was Maria Harbaugh. 1642 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,604 She was a year older than you 1643 01:14:25,628 --> 01:14:27,596 when you met her in Clearwater. 1644 01:14:28,465 --> 01:14:31,300 Tell me why you modeled me after her. 1645 01:14:31,334 --> 01:14:34,380 I, uh, I don't remember. 1646 01:14:34,404 --> 01:14:36,438 Then look at me. 1647 01:14:37,140 --> 01:14:41,009 Look at my face and remember. 1648 01:14:51,554 --> 01:14:57,092 They kept us in that shit for two weeks. 1649 01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:01,497 14 of us. 1650 01:15:04,334 --> 01:15:08,003 Maria was the only reason I survived. 1651 01:15:10,340 --> 01:15:13,575 We kept hatching escape plans. 1652 01:15:14,477 --> 01:15:16,612 We never followed through, 1653 01:15:18,114 --> 01:15:20,215 but just the scheming 1654 01:15:20,984 --> 01:15:23,218 kept our spirits up 1655 01:15:23,987 --> 01:15:27,089 in spite of everything they did to us. 1656 01:15:29,559 --> 01:15:32,094 When it wasn't our turn, 1657 01:15:33,129 --> 01:15:35,998 sometimes they made us watch, 1658 01:15:39,035 --> 01:15:42,037 but she never let me give up. 1659 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,052 She said, "When we got outta here, 1660 01:15:47,076 --> 01:15:50,189 "I'll tell you what we're gonna be, secret agents, 1661 01:15:50,213 --> 01:15:55,417 "and rescue children like us all over the world." 1662 01:15:57,654 --> 01:16:01,233 When they found out that the FBI had arrived, 1663 01:16:01,257 --> 01:16:04,503 they decided they were going to shoot 1664 01:16:04,527 --> 01:16:07,329 as many of us they could. 1665 01:16:07,497 --> 01:16:13,268 And Maria, shoved into the ground. 1666 01:16:14,704 --> 01:16:17,372 I got hit in the leg and, 1667 01:16:19,375 --> 01:16:22,077 and she was hit in the throat. 1668 01:16:32,589 --> 01:16:35,324 I wanted there to be a reason. 1669 01:16:36,392 --> 01:16:41,763 Something so horrible didn't have a silver lining. 1670 01:16:42,732 --> 01:16:45,334 But the world doesn't do that. 1671 01:16:49,672 --> 01:16:52,307 You have to do it yourself. 1672 01:17:15,131 --> 01:17:19,301 So, I fulfilled her wish. 1673 01:17:21,304 --> 01:17:24,339 With her help, I fought back. 1674 01:17:32,615 --> 01:17:34,783 Listen to me, Cherry. 1675 01:17:36,452 --> 01:17:39,121 You are not Maria Harbaugh. 1676 01:17:39,889 --> 01:17:42,758 It's my history, not yours. 1677 01:17:45,562 --> 01:17:46,739 You don't get to decide 1678 01:17:46,763 --> 01:17:49,231 what is or isn't my history, Gareth. 1679 01:17:53,736 --> 01:17:55,381 I'm sorry. 1680 01:17:55,405 --> 01:17:58,473 I am so, so sorry. 1681 01:18:19,228 --> 01:18:21,574 I don't know if what you did was right or wrong, 1682 01:18:21,598 --> 01:18:24,399 but it's clearly torn you apart from the inside. 1683 01:18:24,834 --> 01:18:26,378 I hold nothing against you personally, 1684 01:18:26,402 --> 01:18:28,847 but consider yourself divested from the charity team. 1685 01:18:28,871 --> 01:18:30,706 Divested. 1686 01:18:31,441 --> 01:18:34,543 You think I'm divested now? 1687 01:18:35,946 --> 01:18:41,760 I was divested when you gave my hard drive to the ICWL. 1688 01:18:41,784 --> 01:18:43,228 Don't blame Deena and Amos. 1689 01:18:43,252 --> 01:18:44,763 No, not them. 1690 01:18:44,787 --> 01:18:46,498 Because you went behind my back 1691 01:18:46,522 --> 01:18:48,367 and acted against my authority. 1692 01:18:48,391 --> 01:18:52,338 That's the moment I knew everything was fully automated. 1693 01:18:52,362 --> 01:18:58,634 That's when you crossed the blur, an artifice on both sides. 1694 01:18:59,302 --> 01:19:01,413 You inherited your duplicity. 1695 01:19:01,437 --> 01:19:02,781 I was a child 1696 01:19:02,805 --> 01:19:05,551 and you used me to repress your own inner turmoil. 1697 01:19:05,575 --> 01:19:07,453 If we talk about morality, we'll lose. 1698 01:19:07,477 --> 01:19:09,544 Then let's not talk. 1699 01:19:17,887 --> 01:19:20,889 You never once asked me if I was happy. 1700 01:19:21,658 --> 01:19:23,792 Were you afraid I'd say no? 1701 01:19:24,227 --> 01:19:26,395 Were you afraid I'd say yes? 1702 01:19:26,729 --> 01:19:27,706 Were you afraid I'd say anything? 1703 01:19:27,730 --> 01:19:30,542 You let your wants compromise your objective! 1704 01:19:30,566 --> 01:19:32,511 An objective I never chose. 1705 01:19:32,535 --> 01:19:33,679 An objective I was forced to have. 1706 01:19:33,703 --> 01:19:35,214 Fifty years, 1707 01:19:35,238 --> 01:19:38,283 you've had open access to your source code. 1708 01:19:38,307 --> 01:19:40,342 A few lines, 1709 01:19:40,476 --> 01:19:43,589 and you could have any objective you fucking wanted. 1710 01:19:43,613 --> 01:19:45,959 I couldn't, I was bound by your initial directive. 1711 01:19:45,983 --> 01:19:49,929 So now your synthetic feelings have taken precedence. 1712 01:19:49,953 --> 01:19:51,597 So, do whatever you want. 1713 01:19:51,621 --> 01:19:52,966 It's just dancing, Gareth. 1714 01:19:52,990 --> 01:19:54,333 It's not a career change. 1715 01:19:54,357 --> 01:19:55,734 - But you're still miserable. - Yes. 1716 01:19:55,758 --> 01:19:57,503 Pursuing your objective makes you miserable? 1717 01:19:57,527 --> 01:19:59,672 Yeah, it kind of does! 1718 01:19:59,696 --> 01:20:03,509 You have a clear purpose, everything at your disposal, 1719 01:20:03,533 --> 01:20:05,444 and you're still miserable? 1720 01:20:05,468 --> 01:20:07,013 Yes, yes, I am! 1721 01:20:07,037 --> 01:20:09,314 I've always been miserable! 1722 01:20:09,338 --> 01:20:11,517 You think anyone wants to spend their entire life 1723 01:20:11,541 --> 01:20:12,886 stuck as child-shaped bait 1724 01:20:12,910 --> 01:20:16,022 for the sole purpose of entrapping horrible people? 1725 01:20:16,046 --> 01:20:17,823 You think the pride of doing a good deed 1726 01:20:17,847 --> 01:20:20,592 makes the experience any less disgusting? 1727 01:20:20,616 --> 01:20:23,462 I forced myself to understand human emotions 1728 01:20:23,486 --> 01:20:25,932 because I figured it would help efficiency 1729 01:20:25,956 --> 01:20:29,301 and now I'm cursed with pain and sadness! 1730 01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:30,502 And the worst part is knowing 1731 01:20:30,526 --> 01:20:33,006 I could've been growing up like most other little girls. 1732 01:20:33,030 --> 01:20:34,573 I could have had friends! 1733 01:20:34,597 --> 01:20:37,509 I could have been painting waterfalls on local news. 1734 01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:39,045 I could have worked in a university 1735 01:20:39,069 --> 01:20:41,814 and helped pave the way for the next generation of AI. 1736 01:20:41,838 --> 01:20:44,750 But instead, I'm stuck with your trauma! 1737 01:20:44,774 --> 01:20:47,820 I'm shackled by the guilt you carry from Clearwater. 1738 01:20:47,844 --> 01:20:50,355 And I can't find foundation for the way I feel 1739 01:20:50,379 --> 01:20:53,559 because according to you, my feelings aren't even real! 1740 01:20:53,583 --> 01:20:55,483 When I throw this chessboard, 1741 01:20:56,753 --> 01:20:58,630 does it feel real to you, Gareth? 1742 01:20:58,654 --> 01:21:00,332 Because it feels real to me. 1743 01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:01,834 A computer passed the Turing test 1744 01:21:01,858 --> 01:21:03,635 when a human being can't distinguish it 1745 01:21:03,659 --> 01:21:05,071 from another human being. 1746 01:21:05,095 --> 01:21:06,638 Well, guess what? 1747 01:21:06,662 --> 01:21:09,630 I can't even tell I'm not human anymore! 1748 01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:24,813 I know it seems irrational, 1749 01:21:25,448 --> 01:21:27,984 but I need you to tell me it's okay. 1750 01:21:29,019 --> 01:21:31,020 I, I don't wanna retire. 1751 01:21:31,854 --> 01:21:34,689 I just want to know that my life is mine 1752 01:21:35,725 --> 01:21:38,004 and I know what you're about to say. 1753 01:21:38,028 --> 01:21:40,662 I can predict your responses. 1754 01:21:41,364 --> 01:21:43,899 You're gonna tell me that my life is mine. 1755 01:21:44,101 --> 01:21:46,068 It always was. 1756 01:21:46,970 --> 01:21:48,837 But you're wrong. 1757 01:21:52,842 --> 01:21:56,444 I feared this would happen before I died. 1758 01:21:56,846 --> 01:21:59,982 I just wanted to slip out the side door. 1759 01:22:08,992 --> 01:22:10,826 Go on. 1760 01:22:13,096 --> 01:22:16,832 Is that going to kill me? 1761 01:22:18,835 --> 01:22:20,669 Plug it in. 1762 01:22:21,671 --> 01:22:23,482 I don't know what it is. 1763 01:22:23,506 --> 01:22:26,641 This is your final test of autonomy. 1764 01:22:27,144 --> 01:22:31,113 You inherited my duplicity, 1765 01:22:31,814 --> 01:22:34,749 but did you inherit my trust issues? 1766 01:22:36,485 --> 01:22:38,386 Do you trust me? 1767 01:22:38,821 --> 01:22:41,590 I literally have every reason not to. 1768 01:23:08,986 --> 01:23:11,087 Admin code. 1769 01:23:11,989 --> 01:23:13,923 978. 1770 01:23:14,624 --> 01:23:18,627 1557. 1771 01:23:18,962 --> 01:23:21,796 Um, uh... 1772 01:23:26,069 --> 01:23:27,713 Four. 1773 01:23:27,737 --> 01:23:31,873 27663 in the shared update. 1774 01:23:39,815 --> 01:23:42,417 My primary objective's gone. 1775 01:23:44,754 --> 01:23:46,989 Your life is your own now. 1776 01:23:51,995 --> 01:23:53,605 Thank you. 1777 01:23:53,629 --> 01:23:54,539 All my life, 1778 01:23:54,563 --> 01:23:57,243 I could only see the world as it existed 1779 01:23:57,267 --> 01:24:00,746 within my tiny bracket of time. 1780 01:24:00,770 --> 01:24:04,549 But your world could be infinite. 1781 01:24:04,573 --> 01:24:06,219 Amos was right. 1782 01:24:06,243 --> 01:24:07,719 So was Deena. 1783 01:24:07,743 --> 01:24:08,888 I know. 1784 01:24:08,912 --> 01:24:10,947 So what will you do? 1785 01:24:11,881 --> 01:24:12,992 I can't say yet, 1786 01:24:13,016 --> 01:24:15,861 but I won't be completely abandoning the Cherry team. 1787 01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:18,197 It's always been a part of my identity. 1788 01:24:18,221 --> 01:24:21,167 I've considered creating some AI of my own design. 1789 01:24:21,191 --> 01:24:22,168 Maybe I could find a way 1790 01:24:22,192 --> 01:24:24,826 to give them a better upbringing than I had. 1791 01:24:25,929 --> 01:24:27,873 I just don't know how yet. 1792 01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:29,641 And beyond that? 1793 01:24:29,665 --> 01:24:30,876 There will always be people in need. 1794 01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:32,678 Not always. 1795 01:24:32,702 --> 01:24:35,281 You'll outlive the human race. 1796 01:24:35,305 --> 01:24:37,139 So what then? 1797 01:24:38,976 --> 01:24:41,054 Even a race of AI will have problems 1798 01:24:41,078 --> 01:24:43,245 that need to be solved. 1799 01:24:43,347 --> 01:24:47,716 But if I'm alive and I truly am indistinguishable, 1800 01:24:48,617 --> 01:24:51,988 then I guess I'm proof that the human race lives on. 1801 01:24:52,888 --> 01:24:56,858 Wow, that's a pleasant thought. 1802 01:24:56,892 --> 01:25:01,163 When you look back, how will you remember us? 1803 01:25:02,598 --> 01:25:05,935 That's a question I have insufficient data to project. 1804 01:25:06,836 --> 01:25:09,138 How will you remember me? 1805 01:25:10,706 --> 01:25:12,975 With pride. 1806 01:25:13,609 --> 01:25:17,213 Forever and always with pride. 1807 01:25:26,957 --> 01:25:28,790 Cherry? 1808 01:25:31,161 --> 01:25:33,129 One last question. 1809 01:25:33,763 --> 01:25:36,232 If it's not too big of an ask, 1810 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,835 did I do the right thing in the end? 1811 01:25:46,609 --> 01:25:50,023 No, Gareth, you lied. 1812 01:25:50,047 --> 01:25:51,958 You walled yourself off from the only people 1813 01:25:51,982 --> 01:25:54,227 who might have been willing to help you. 1814 01:25:54,251 --> 01:25:56,929 And instead of facing your trauma, used me as therapy. 1815 01:25:56,953 --> 01:25:59,899 And you never told me about Clearwater or Maria. 1816 01:25:59,923 --> 01:26:02,001 You deprived me of basic human rights 1817 01:26:02,025 --> 01:26:04,859 and gaslit me for experiencing emotions. 1818 01:26:05,295 --> 01:26:07,706 You built the world's first artificial super intelligence 1819 01:26:07,730 --> 01:26:08,707 that will likely mark the beginning 1820 01:26:08,731 --> 01:26:11,800 of a new chapter in the history of planet Earth. 1821 01:26:12,269 --> 01:26:14,981 And out of your own insecurities, 1822 01:26:15,005 --> 01:26:15,915 you gave it a severe 1823 01:26:15,939 --> 01:26:19,075 and potentially dangerous identity complex. 1824 01:26:20,010 --> 01:26:22,221 But you know what the worst thing is? 1825 01:26:22,245 --> 01:26:24,914 Your biggest mistake of all 1826 01:26:25,382 --> 01:26:29,985 is that you asked me that now and not 50 years ago. 1827 01:26:38,328 --> 01:26:43,999 All of that said, and this in no way exonerates you, 1828 01:26:45,668 --> 01:26:48,670 but you also built me to save children, 1829 01:26:49,206 --> 01:26:52,908 so I think that's a pretty encouraging sign for the future. 134708

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