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So, ladies and gentlemen,
my special guest for

this evening is Jordan Maxwell, read a
brief bio and then we'll get right to it.

Jordan Maxwell is a
preeminent researcher and

independent scholar in the field of
occultism and religious philosophy.

His work exploring the
hidden foundations of

Western religions and
secret societies creates

enthusiastic responses from
audiences around the world.

Jordan has conducted
dozens of intensive

seminars hosted his own
radio talk shows, guessed

it on more than 600
radio shows and written

produced and appeared
in numerous television

shows and documentaries
devoted to understanding

ancient religions and their pervasive
influence on world affairs today.

His work on the subject
of secret societies both

ancient and modern
and their symbols has

fascinated audiences
around the world for decades.

His extraordinary
presentations include

documents and photographs
seldom seen elsewhere,

considering the rapidly
moving events of today

and the very real part
that hidden religious

agendas play in our
modern war-torn world.

Jordan feels that these
controversial subjects

are not only interesting to
explore but too important to ignore.

Ladies and gentlemen,
welcome to what on earth

is happening, a
gentleman who I personally

consider to be a mentor
in truth, Mr. Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, welcome to the show.

Absolutely, my honor
to have you here tonight.

So, I'll start off by just
asking you how long

you've been involved in the work of
exposing hidden knowledge to the public.

How long have you considered yourself
a DO cultist of hidden information?

And what was really the
thing that put you over

the edge to decide to
start doing work like this?

Actually, I was always, even as a child, I
was always interested in the written world.

I realized in an early
age, I don't know why,

I just gravitated toward
the idea, probably

something in my personality to understand,
but I always knew I just had a gut feeling

even as a kid that there's a whole world of
knowledge, you're not aware of, you know.

There's things going on in the world and
in the universe that you're not being told

and that adults around me
did not know anything about.

And so I always had a hankering to, I
want to know what's really going on.

I mean, I want to know
what's really behind the scenes.

And so as a kid, I
started, as I gravitated

toward looking not
just at what you're seeing

but what you're not seeing,
but the rest of the story.

And of course, my mother always said that
no matter what we're with here, happening

in the community, I should always say,
well, there's two sides there in the story.

And some types of three sides.

And so I always knew
that just because you're

reading something into
paper about somebody

and what they want to
suppose they have done

or didn't do, whatever,
there's all kinds

of other information that
you're not pretty to know about.

Probably most of it is propaganda
and the rest of it is prejudiced.

And so you never know unless you are, you
are yourself involved and you will know.

I remember an ABC
Newsman many years ago on

radio made an interesting
statement and stuff with me.

He said, "If you want
to know how corrupt

and how corrupt and
inaccurate the news that

you hear on radio
and television, you want

to know how bad it
really is, just wait till

they do a story on you, wait till something
that you are personally involved in.

It comes out in the
newspapers that are on

radio where you were
the one that was there.

I watch what they're
saying about you, watch

what the media is saying about the
situation, about the problem, about you.

You will know yourself what the real truth
is and you will know here the way the media

is presented, so I
realize at a long time ago

the more I looked into
what I was believing

but my family was involved in, the
more it became an obvious thing.

Welcome back everyone.

You're listening to What
On Earth is Happening

Here on Republic
Broadcasting Network.

I'm your host Mark Passio.

My website WhatOnEarthIsHappening.com.

Tonight my very special guest is a
cult researcher, Mr. Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, I have another question for you.

Since you've begun doing the work that you
do many years ago, have you yourself, do

you see any actual,
perceivable, recognizable

difference in what you
would consider the overall

state of consciousness
of humanity or at least

qualify that and say
at least an increase

in the interest in occulted
knowledge and information?

What is your take on that?

Well, are you hearing me now?

Yes, yes, I can hear you.

Okay.

I would say probably
the opposite, I would say

there seems to be
less interest in anything

intelligent today than
there was when, you

know, back in the '60s
and '50s, '60s and '70s.

It was probably a lot
more open and open to

here and, you know,
in Mark, I'm of interest.

Where today there seems to be
so much going on in the world that

uses stuff, baseball and football
and sport to move you smaller.

To where people
really aren't getting it,

found out the bottom
line is people just don't

get it, what's really
going on and so they

become sucked into
and a part of the systems

to such an extent that I don't really
see people waking up very much.

Yeah, there are a way
to be those people who

are, but it's going to
be a very small, very,

very small number in
comparison because there

are none so blind as
those who choose not

to see and so it doesn't
mean that humans

are so stupid, they
can't see, you know, most

people at this point in life are
scared and they don't want to see.

They don't want to hear anything that might
tighten them or might, you know, they don't

engage in any conversation which is
not talked about in polite company.

I always don't wonder about that.

Why isn't we don't want to talk about that?

I think certain people
have done, or even in

my family, or even as
young or as a criminal,

we don't want to talk about that,
you know, we don't bring that up.

Why not?

Well, because we
don't talk about religion,

politics, or anything
unpleasant in polite company.

We don't want to talk about that.

So the criminals say,
"Thank God, this way

nobody is talking about
me, and I can continue

to do what I do because
nobody wants to talk about it.

" So I think that we are
less aware today than

we've ever been, but those who are aware
are very much aware in doing what they can

to enlighten themselves and that's the
people that I am directing my voice to.

I'm not interested in saving the
world, the world can't be saved.

Period.

Jesus tried to do
work, and all the other

great prophets and
intelligent people tried to

do something like Tesla
tried to like the world

and all he got for was
going into, you know,

filling in their chaos in
his life and died of hunger.

So I know that you're not going to
save the human race, it's impossible to do.

What is possible is to
help those individuals

who are trying to do
something to help themselves

and to understand the world.

And so that's who I'm directing my
comments to those who want to know.

You know, I hear a lot of people say,
"Well, you know people are waking up today.

" And my comment to
that is, yes, that's what

people do when they're
in prison every morning

and after transit and then the big
prisons of the world, people wake up.

And when they wake
up, they're still in prison,

but at least they're waking
up, at least they won't walk in.

But they're still in prison.

So just because people are waking
up, it doesn't mean they know anything.

And they have no power, even
the people who are waking today.

In fact, have little
to no power to do

anything about the world
situation, even though

they're awakening,
and they may be quite a

few, but they're still
the billions of people

around the world
who couldn't care less.

And so when I hear people
say that there is a light at the

end of the tunnel, I always
see, yes, it's a train coming.

So I don't see that
civilization and the human

race is going to be
able to extricate itself

or get itself out of the mess that
we're in, I always see chaos coming.

And I have to tell you,
I've been looking at

it for 50 years, I know
what I'm talking about.

I tend to agree that
we definitely don't have

a mass awakening
happening, it's happening

in small isolated
pockets and scattered to

the four corners of
the earth most certainly.

And I personally see
some more people coming

on to the desire for a
cult acknowledge and

hit an information and starting to look
into things and do research for themselves.

But I do see that
as being a very small

movement when you
compare it with the multitude

of the mindless masses
that are out there that haven't

even begun researching
any of this information.

And I think if we apply
our will to talk about

those hidden issues
that we just mentioned

like the corruption that
is going on and many

more people do that work, then maybe
we could start to reverse that trend.

But I certainly don't
see that as something

that is happening in
mass in any way as well.

So I tend to largely agree with
your view when it comes to that.

Can you give us your
take on, you know, I've

been accused of this
in the past and actually

up to the current day and I've heard other
people calling you a new age or call myself

a new age or I don't consider myself a
member of the new age movement by any stretch

of anybody's imagination,
most of all my own.

And I certainly don't consider you a
new age or by any means whatsoever.

Can you give me your honest take of what,
you know, many people would call the quote

"new age movement"
or "new age spirituality?

" That's a loaded
question, big time.

That's a very, very heavy
duty question because

if you understand the
Bible, you understand

which Christians
across the board do not,

one thing that most
Christians have in common

is they do not understand
much of anything.

And so if they don't
understand ancient

history, you don't
understand the culture from

which the Bible has
come from and in terms of

the words and having
looked at the anthropology

of the concept that they ideas expressed in
the Bible, you're never going to figure out

what's been what's going on and you've got
to call people names when that's what small

minds refer to if you don't understand
what's going on, you're not educated to not

to intellectually discuss
something, they just call

people names and then
they don't take care of you.

You don't have to talk about the subject
of all, you don't have to listen to anybody

who knows what they're talking about, just
call them a name, call them "new ageer" and

that implies implication
is that they are

mentally disordered
and dangerous worship of

devil worshipers and
all that, but who is

this calling people "new
ageers" is born again

Christians who have no
conceptual idea of what new age

or age or any other means
and no idea what it means.

And there are a few out there who are leading
as the Bible said, there will be blind

leading the blind and
both shall fall into the pit.

And so by their fruits, you shall
know them as when Jesus said.

And that is something you need to keep in
mind, by their fruits, you shall know them.

We'll talk about that later.

Very important words
to keep in mind, ladies

and gentlemen, my
special guest this evening,

Jordan Maxwell, you're listening to What
On Earth is Happening, we'll be right back.

Welcome back every morning, you're listening
to What On Earth is Happening, I'm your

host, Mark Passio,
tonight my special guest

joining us is Jordan
Maxwell, a cult researcher.

Jordan, you were saying
before the break, you

were talking about
the concept of you shall

know them by their
fruits, you shall know them

by their works, I
think it's very critically

important advice for
people to take to heart.

And I feel that the fruits of what we would
call the "new age" spirituality movement

is inaction, it is more
than really alerting

people of their current
true predicament in

our world, and how the
world is going deeper

into bondage and
slavery, I think what they're

doing is giving people a
watered-down feel-good

variant of so-called
spirituality that's

really keeping them
in sort of a trance of

inaction, would you agree
in, can you speak to that?

Well, yeah, I'm sure
there's something to what

you're saying, but
what I think is even more

important is the fact
that the whole idea of

a new age comes
directly out of the Bible.

Now, unfortunately, most Christians have no
idea what I'm talking about, some Jews do,

but the whole idea
of the Bible's stories is

talks about the new
age, and today all over

the world, and especially in America, look
at the literature published by Christian

denominations all over the country, I don't
care what, the denomination, look and read

the literature like I
have for some 54 years.

The literature, and
you will see everywhere

the term, the church
age, and our age today,

and the gospel age, and the gospel age,
and today we're in the church age, and then

they always call them Matthew, where Jesus
said, "Go forth, go forth, baptize, and the

name of the Father's
Son and all this Spirit,

and I will be with you
to the end of the world.

"

That's what it says in the last chapter
in the last verse of the book of Matthew.

Jesus said, "I will be with
you to the end of the world."

That's a mistranslation, the word in Greek
as A-on, A-E-O-N, which was mistranslated

in the world, "Go back
and do some homework,"

instead of calling
people names, "Go back

and read the Bible," and instead Jesus
said, "I will be with you to the end of the

A-on, A-E-O-N, which
is translated correctly,

age," so Jesus said,
"I will be with you

to the end of the age," so Christian will
then say, "Oh, well, that was the gospel

age." So now we're in the church age.
Well, now you're talking about ages.

You understand? You're using the word age.
Well, from the gospel age, now we have the

church age. Could we say that the gospel
age is a bygone era? It's a bygone age, and

that the church age was a new age, and that
that is the case in what their ages before

the gospel age. Maybe
there was other ages

before that, well, once
you get into the Jewish

literature, and again,
to read the rabbinical

literature, you begin
to see that the entire

story of the Bible,
both only new, but

especially the new
testament, is an astrological

story, and is talking
about the new age.

That's what Jesus said.
I will be with you to

the end of the age, and so
what are you talking about?

It's a very big story.

It's a very modern material,
you have to do color.

But Jesus tells us a
process, because there were

12 apostles that they were following there.
They were leaving God's son, and he was

referred to as the
light of the world.

Well, of course the son
is the light of the world.

What else likes
the world? The son.

And so his 12 followers,
there's 12 apostles or the

12 signs of the zodiac, or the 12 months of
the year, whatever you want to call it, the

12 asked God's son, now that you're
going to die, where are we supposed to go?

What's next? And in the
book of Luke, in the New

Testament Luke 22,
10, go read it, God's son,

the light of the world,
said to the 12 followers,

go into the city, and you will see a man
carrying a water picture. Go into the house

of the man with
the water picture.

Well, one thing Bible
scholars know that Christians

don't is that no where,
and the Middle East, in

any country, it's
biblical times out today,

nowhere does it do
men carry water pictures.

And in the Middle East, it is a woman's
job to carry water, not as I am period.

It would have been a shame
to see a man carrying water.

That's a woman's
job. And this is what

Jesus was always talking
about to the women at the well.

Women carry water,
not men, period.

Therefore, why would
Jesus say go into the city

and see the man
carrying the water picture?

Go into the house of the man with the water
picture. Well, anybody who's got Monica

Sends knows that the symbol
for Aquarius is a man with the

water pictures, and anyone
who's done any research at all,

which most Christians
have, but if you have, you

will know that the symbol
for Christianity and the

ancient Roman Empire
was too fish crossing too fish.

That's why Jesus feeds
his crown with too

fish, the number of
look, the too fish are of

course obviously. The
symbol for pine seeds,

the age of religion, and the Roman Empire,
and it started about the fourth century.

So Jesus represents the
master of the age of Pisces.

He feeds his proper too
fig. Pisces get it, and then

when he's getting ready
to leave the world, 2,000

years later, he's getting
ready to leave the

world, his 12 followers,
the 12 signs of the zodiac,

the 12 months of the year,
the 12 brothers of children,

the 12 apostles, my God,
there's all kinds of 12s in the Bible,

and nobody seems to put it
together. The 12 of the 12 signs of the

zodiac, the 12 months
of the year, okay.

So when you see the 12
followers of the sun asking where

we to go now, that
we've been in the age of

the two fishes, now
where we to go, well, the

master of the Pisces
and Eve says, "go into the

house with a man
with a water pressure.

" Well, obviously, you've got
500 breeds out, you know, that

prairie as follows, Pisces,
and so the next sign

should be a prairie as. And
so, well, let's go backwards.

Let's go backwards.

We put our Jesus before the
inauguration of the age of Pisces.

What were we in there?
Well, if you go back to

the time of Moses, Moses
was even before Moses.

The world was in the
age of Taurus, the bull,

and therefore the Jews
of the ancient Hebrews,

were worshippers of
God's son, the light of the

world, and the age
of Taurus, the bull.

That's why you have the golden
cap. The sun is golden and a cap

is from the whole. So,
the golden cap was the sun

in the age of Taurus.
Now, when the end of the

age of Taurus was coming,
God calls Moses up to

the mountain to give him
a new law, and he goes up

into the mountain, he
gets the new understanding,

the new revelation, the
new law, and comes back

down to give to the Hebrew
people. And what does he

do? If he finds the people
worshipping a golden cap,

why it's telling you
that the people were still

worshipping the way they were
in the age of Taurus, the bull.

Moses comes down and says,
"We've got a new arrangement.

" God just gave us a
new age, a new time,

and he is that means we
are now in the age of airies,

the realm, and therefore
instead of worshipping

the golden cap without
supposed to blow the realms far.

And so it's really
interesting how today we

are seeing the Jews
worshipping the realm, blowing

the realms far, and never
ever suspected that it's

all astrology, the whole
thing. So astrotheological

metaphor or allegory for
the movement of the sun

through the procession
of the equinoxis.

That's exactly what it is. And
if you're hearing fireworks,

it's because there's a
big celebration here in

the city and fireworks.
So don't be excited,

that's all this. Not a
problem at all, Jordan.

Jordan, say right where
this, we'll pick this up on

the other side of this
break. Ladies and gentlemen,

you're listening to what
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my special guest this evening,
Jordan Maxwell, stay with us.

Welcome back everyone. We're listening to
what on earth is happening. I'm your host,

Mark Passio, my special guest
this evening, Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, I want to shift gears a little
bit and I'll go into some even deeper

waters if we can. Can
you tell us your general

view of human origins?
And do you think it's

a possibility that in our ancient past,
there was a direct non-human intervention

in the creation of
humanity, or at least

the creation of the
current human condition,

whether that was done
through possibly genetic

or epigenetic manipulation,
you're take on that?

Well, another good question.

There's no doubt in my mind
what, when I was transpired,

I've said many years ago
that the word evolution

and the concept of evolution is incorrect
to look at the evolution is not important.

The word you need to look
at, the conceptual idea you

need to research is
intervention, not evolution.

Let me explain. The
Bible clearly says,

and I'm fascinated
with the wisdom that's

encoded in the Bible.
It's not there for anyone

to just sit and read, but if you do the
homework on breaking down the words and the

etymology of the words,
it's going back into the

age of language of art,
youth, linguistics, which

is a study of the ancient
languages, and the

ancient concepts and ideas
of the prehistoric world,

and how it's come
down to us today, you will

begin to see how
there's a lot of fascinating

stuff encoded in the Bible that Christians
and Jews didn't see. I would say this,

that the Bible does not
say that God created man.

I used to sit and talk
at rabbi as many years

ago at the Salomon
Wheaton Dolls Center for

Holocaust Studies in Los
Angeles. I'm talking about

many, many years ago,
and even before that back

in the 60s with a
rabbinical friend of mine,

and it became apparent that from
what they were saying that they were

intimate, that God did
not create man, and so I

got interested in that.
I said, "Wait a minute,

what are you saying?"
And the rabbis said, "First

of all, God, the Scripture
do not say God created man.

" That's a new, flung,
doesn't do ideas, a new

concept when it has
nothing to do with Judaism,

or ancient Judaism, or the Bible at all.
No, nowhere does it say God created man.

Go back and read it
correctly, and so I began

to see that he was right,
because the word man

in Hebrew ish, I-S-H ish ish is man in
Hebrew, but in the Bible when it says in God,

God is creating Adam
and Eve, it doesn't say

it, and God created
ish. It doesn't say that.

The word is a-d-l in
Hebrew, a-dum, not Adam.

We added an a in the life
of a Jewish name, Adam.

No, no, not Adam. A-d-l,
a-dum means something in

Hebrew, and so the
Scripture says that God said,

"Come, let us make man in our image." Well,
the word man there is not ish. It's a-dum.

So the correct translation,
if you do it right

in the left of your original
Hebrew, is God said,

"Come, let us make a-dum
in our image after our likeness.

" That is in Rabbi told
me many years ago,

I'm fascinated by this because he said,
"Go back and read the Scripture correctly.

" It doesn't say, "God created
man." It says, "God said, "Come,

let us make man in our
image after our likeness,

not make man, but
make a man in our image

after our likeness."
So he will look like us.

And so I said, "Wait a
minute, God says, "Come,

let us, who is us?" And
then later on God looks

down on the earth and
says, "See man has become

as one of us or a-dum
has become one of us.

" And so what are
you talking about us?

God talking to himself
or who's he talking to?

Well, go back to Genesis
1, when it says, "In the

beginning God created the heavens of the
earth, that's not what it says in Hebrew.

" It doesn't say that. Go
back and read the word,

because in Hebrew the
word, "For God is El, El is God.

" But that's not the
word that is in Genesis

1, 1, not at all. Go back
and read it in Hebrew,

and it says, "In the
beginning El loheme created

the heavens of the
earth." Not El, and so El

loheme is a plural. It's
like putting an s on the

end of an English word. You
have C-A-R is one thing, but

C-A-R-S means many cards
more than one in the plural.

So El is God, but El loheme is a
plural, meaning more than one.

Therefore the correct translation, if
you want to be accurate and read it in the

Hebrew in the way
it was actually written,

not the way your pastor
said, not the way your

church is, but if you
want to go to the original,

then it would be
correctly translated in the

beginning the gods created the
heavens in the earth, more than one.

So then when we
hear that the Hebrews

and the ancient Jews and
the ancient Hebrews were

the worshippers of one
God. They were the first

monotyistic people,
and in point of fact that

is absolutely ludicrous
on the face of it.

The Hebrews have never been a
monotyistic people ever in history.

You cannot prove that at all.

They have never been a
worshipper of one God.

What the term is
is not monotyistic.

It's he-no, spell H-E-N-O,
go look it up in a dictionary.

H-E-N-O, he-no means
he-no-theistic means to pick one

God from a group. So to
understand what I'm saying,

is if you have say 15
gods and they're all equal

and they're standing in
front of you and you pick

one God that you
are he is your favorite.

So you pick one God and
you tell him I want to make

a pact with you. You'll
be my God and I will be

your your follower. Well
what you've done now

is you have picked
one God from a group.

So we could say you are
the worshipper of one God,

but that's not saying
that there's only one God.

No, it's still one God
you pick. And that's why

correctly understood, the Hebrews
were a he-no-theistic people.

They pick one God. And that's why today
we could say that they were worshippers of

one God, but then when
you understand who were

the other gods, well
that's why in the Bible it

says God said no,
L-L-He-N-N-Stev, the God said,

"Come let us make man in
our image, after our likeness.

" So it's not saying that God's

the God's made man-ish.
No, the God's made a

new kind of man. They
came here and intervened

in our evolution and
created a new kind of creature

that the Hebrews call dumb,
ADM. Look it up in a dictionary.

So therefore when you understand and to
go on with this whole thing it opens up a

can of worms because
in even Genesis 9-1, after

the flood of Noah's
day, in Genesis 9-1, this is

after the flood, it says
that God says to Noah and

his family after the
flood, go forth, multiply,

and replenish the earth.
So I asked the rabbis,

is that a correct translation,
go forth, multiply,

and re-are, replenish the earth
because re-means to do it again.

And rabbis said yes, obviously, if there
were many people on the earth and God is

just destroyed then
kind of with a great flood,

well if you're going to
have people on the earth

again then somebody's
going to have to re-are,

do it again, re-plenish
the earth, make sense, and

I said to the rabbi, oh I
have that to be the case,

then what about Genesis
128, where God is creating

Adam and Eve, and he
says go forth, multiply,

and re-plenish the
earth. Do it again, does

that mean that Adam and
Eve were a new creation,

a re-creation of a
new kind of creature?

Yes, obviously, in your face.
There have been civilizations

on this earth from
millions of years.

Fascinating information
Jordan, ladies and gentlemen,

stay right with us, we'll
be back after these words.

In the second hour
of tonight's broadcast,

my special guest, Jordan
Maxwell, dot com, today

of course my special guest,
preeminent occult researcher, Mr.

Jordan Maxwell. Before the break, Jordan
was talking about the possibility that

non-human entities had
intervened in the possible

creation of the human
species, not only the

current human condition,
but may possibly be the

"gods" that the biblical
texts of the old text

that Testament talked
about, as he said, the

word "Elohim" is actually plural
in Hebrew and it means "gods.

" Jordan, I want to ask
you, I want to get your take.

We talk about
the possibility that

these beings came
here and had their own

intentions in mind and
didn't really care too much

about us, they were
going to use us for their

purposes, and then certain
groups of human beings

chose one faction
perhaps of these gods or

one of these beings
among the many to worship

and to venerate. But how
do you see the possibility

of their being the
possibility of positive

non-human entities or
presences that are here

to not use humanity
but to uplift humanity so

that we might pursue our
evolutionary development on our own?

Do you see any
possible presences that

are here to assist us?
I don't think so. No?

I don't think so. I think
that if you look at the whole

picture and something I
would add to what we've

said before, remember in
the Ten Commandments,

the God, that particular
God, Yahweh, that was

picked by the Hebrews,
that particular God,

said one of the commandments
you laid down on that

new arrangement that
those people who chose them,

instead I am the Lord your
God and I shall not have

strange gods before me.
I am the Lord your God,

not all my God is
the whole universe.

Now I am the God you chose,
so I am the Lord your God

and I shall not have
other gods before me.

You didn't say the word I
was a God. I just don't want you

worshiping any other
God because you made an

agreement with me. And
so it's like the God you

told the girlfriend, I'm
going to be your steady,

I'm going to be your
boyfriend, I don't want

to see you with other
boards. I'm your boyfriend,

I'm your steady, I don't
want to see you dating other.

Well the concept was the same, the God that
they picked said I am the Lord your God,

and I know when any
other gods coming before

me, I don't care if you
want to dabble with

some of their silly
stuff but don't worship

any gods before me because I'm the
one that you picked, I'm the Lord your God.

So when you understand how
these scriptures are to be interpreted

correctly and how the
words in the Bible are

telling you something it's
encoded and people don't

understand being words
and encoded, symbolic.

That's why they even
ask Jesus, they ask Jesus,

why is it you talk in
riddles and you're only

talking only and the Bible
said the only talk riddles only.

That's the only way Jesus taught

was in riddles and what was
the other term that was yours.

But the point being that you're only
talking to riddles and then Jesus said

I talk in riddles
because I don't want you

getting saved, I don't
want you around me, I don't

want you hearing and
getting saved, I don't want

you around me at all.
So I speak in such a way

that the whole world
will hear me, but only

those who the father
calls will understand what

I'm really saying. Only
those who are truly

spiritual and who are
chosen by the father will hear.

The rest of you will all
just, you know, you look

at your eyes and you
don't see it, you listen

with your ears and you don't hear and with
your heart you don't get the sense of it.

So that's why I talk
in riddles and teach in

riddles because I don't
want you to understand.

Most people I don't
want them in my company.

So I get the point. This is why
things are encoded in government,

government and closed messages because they
don't want other people to read things.

If it gets out, people won't be
able to read what the government

is saying because it's
encoded. And so that's

why today I'm saying
that both the old and new

testament are heavily
encoded. Well, Blackout,

we've heard all kinds of books
and lectures about Bible codes.

When you go back
and look at that

idea because it's true,
there are codes in the Bible.

We have local codes.
And so when you stop

looking at words and
terms as the rabbis used

to tell me, you know,
the way you Gentiles read

something, you've got
your own take on it and you

proclaim yourself to know
what you're talking about,

you've got your own
claim. When at point of fact,

there are encodes, there
are coded messages in there

that the rabbinical authorities
know that you don't know.

And so you need to go
back and do your homework.

If you're going to
translate something

correctly, you better go
back and look at the culture

of the people who wrote it. When the words
met back then, not what they mean today.

And look at the entire picture
as an inclement message.

And when you do that,
you begin to see that there's

more than one God,
there's many gods.

And when Adam and Eve
and Kate and Abel, Kate and

kills his brother, and
God is going to banish

him from his family and
take him away and send

him out to the wilderness
where Kate says to God,

oh my God, don't
send me out there.

I'll be a diagon. And if you
send me out there, they're

going to find me and
when they find me, they're

going to kill me. And
God says, no, I'm not going

to let them kill you.
I'll put a mark on you.

So they may find you and
they're not going to kill you.

And you've got to ask yourself,
what are you talking about?

Does Adam and
Eve, Kate and Abel,

Kate just killed his brother?
And now God is sending

him out into the world
and Kate says to God,

don't send me out there
because anybody out there

that finds me will kill
me. And now he's got God

believing that somebody
out there because God

says, no, I won't let them
kill you if they find you.

Who are you talking about?

That's in out there that's
different from you and they'll

kill you if they find you. No, I've done
those only three people at this point.

Adam and Eve and Kate and
Abel. And now there's only three

people who gives one
killed the other one.

So what are you talking
about? Well, what we're talking

about is that there
have been civilizations on

this earth for millions
and millions of years.

The history of life,
human, intelligent life,

or intelligent life goes
back millions of years.

And this is why it says,
again, I'm saying this

is why it says in Genesis
1 28, when God is

reading out of the name
of Adam and Eve, go for

multiply and read, finish
the year. Do it again.

So you need to understand
that there's a bigger

picture here and most
people are no idea how big

this picture really is
how far back it goes.

We're finding temples
in enormous structures

and the oceans of the
world. We're finding

pyramids on the ocean, on
the ocean floor and the Atlantic.

We're finding
enormous structures and

temples off the coast of Cuba,
off the coast of Japan, Okinawa.

We're finding enormous temples
around the world in the bottom of oceans.

What does that tell you?
When the oil rates are drilling

into the earth and the
oceans, they go down miles

beneath the ocean to
hit the oil. But before they

hit the oil, they're
sucking up the stuff that

they're cutting through
and they're finding

handmade artifacts under
the ocean floor. Wake up.

You need to wake up and find out that the
earth has got history. You're not aware of.

And I think what you're
saying in so many words

is that in this replenishing
of the earth after

the deluge, what was really
being done was they were

just rebooting the matrix
of slavery all over again.

We'll be right back every
once they with us as well.

Jordan on the other side of the break,
you were talking about that there have been

many, many ancient
civilizations going back for

possibly even millions
of years. And this system

of slavery has really been
ongoing and has been

wiped out and rebooted
possibly several times.

To switch that back to
what's going on in the modern

world, obviously we're
still entrenched in a

system of control and
slavery. So I want to ask you

what could be construed as a controversial
question, but here it goes anyway.

What is your personal take on the
ideology that is referred to as pacifism?

And let me get your
take on that first.

And then the second
part of this question

I want to ask is, is
there an inherent right

of self defense on the
part of people who other

individuals consider
as their slaves or their

property to use their
physical ability, their

physical power to
physically rebel and free

themselves from that imposed condition
that is imposed upon them called slavery?

Well, you know, I think that
whole thing is on the obvious.

It's really a
philosophical question,

how you view freedom. I mean,
I'm in the system that I live in.

I'm not complaining about it.

I live in a system.
I understand it.

I'm the one that's been talking
about from many years about

how the system works.
And, as a matter of fact, I

don't have any problem
with it as such because I

realize it's just part
of it is what it is.

It's part of the continual
flow of power over the human

creatures and over the,
you know, intelligent

creatures of the earth
have always been dominated

by occult powers by
hidden powers of the world.

We call them illuminati today.

I don't care what you call it.
Obviously, at the top of the

world, you can go like
in the organized crime,

you have the street
criminals and then they're

captains and couples and
then after that, you have,

you know, the heads
of the families and after

that, you've got the
permission and after that,

and they just keep
going up to ladder and up

to ladder to finally
come to the bottom line,

the bottom line is the big boss
boss of all bosses at the top.

Well, the boss of
all bosses at the

top in this theological
world, I believe, are demonic.

I believe that this
within structure says,

Michael says that all of
your gods are demons and

you're worshiping the
worship of demons and devils.

I think there's probably
something to do that

because I think there's
exactly what's happening.

I think the religions today
are the, of the trauma

of higher other world
intelligences who have

misleading the whole
human race and that's the

whole race, you know,
go back to the scripture

where it says that
Jesus will take him to the

pinnacle of the temple
and shown all the key

things of the worlds that I would give
you, all these kingdoms of your worshiping.

Well, obviously you
couldn't give all the

kingdoms of the world
if you don't own them.

Well, the scripture
actually says that God of

this world is a devil
and all the religions

of the world are from the devil,
from evil, demonic depravity.

Well, again, like
we started to show

off again by saying, by their
fruits, you shall know them.

So what is the fruitage of the three
major religions in the world today, Judy?

Isn't it because he had a
DNS line? His world chaos,

world wars, violence.
And we can start dissecting

each one of those
religions and begin to see

the real story behind
what these religions really

are, where they've come
from. And then you get

into the sexual
conversions and the lies and

the money growing and
all the entertainment, the

propaganda, wars and
the violence and the

mistreatment of children
and the horrible stuff there.

The circumcision of children and babies and
cutting the force gives off of children's

of babies, penis and
sucking the blood.

What is all of this incredible
stuff that we humans

are subjected to and nobody has seen the
question, where does this stuff come from?

Where do these high be as
about God? And I remember back

in years ago, when you're
discussing something

with other people, define
your terms, understand

that other people may
have a different view

of the word you're
using. So that's why I

always ask where we're
talking about theology.

That's another very interesting word,
theology, because it goes back to the word

theos, which is God in Greek,
theos of theo in Greek as God.

That's why the ancient Greeks,

where they used to go to
hear about God, Christians

go to churches, well,
the ancient Greeks,

and then go to churches.
They want to feed theaters.

So it was called the God show.

They went to a theater, and
the theater talked to them about

theism or theology.
So this is where today

we get the idea that when
you go into a big show,

if you're going into a theater,
well, that's what you're doing.

When you go to a church, you're going into
churches at the air. It's a show, the God

show, and people pay money
and they are entertained

and then they go out
and they are unified,

because they saw a good
movie. They are no good

sermon or something. Does it
mean you've learned anything?

No, the same people
have gone to the

same church for 46 years,
and you can ask them a

question of theological
question, and they can't answer it.

They don't know what
you're talking about.

So I've got to say to
myself, if you're going

to a theater or to a
class in a theater or to a

church for 40 years, and
I ask you a question and

you can't answer it, that
tells me how good of an

education you've been
getting at this theater or

this church, which is by their
fruits, you show all of them.

So when you start breaking down religion,
you find out that the people who are very

religious also are totally
ignorant, ill-informed,

unread, and have no
understanding of the word

God and where it comes
from, they have no concept

of what they're talking
about and you're talking

about, they use the
term Christ, priestiles,

Christ, Jesus, where did
these words come from?

So God, as I've always
said, I'm few famous for

saying that is that God
is simply dogs, they're all

backwards, and that's why
you have dogmen in the

church, you begin to
understand the anthropology

of the hidden or cult
significance of religions

where they have come
from. Why do we only have

three major religions, like
Islam, Judaism, Christianity?

Why three, there's a reason why?

Why do all religions,
almost all religions in

the world have trying
gods, you know, the Hindus

have brother, indigenous
Shiva, Egyptians have

Alzheimer's, Pisces, Horus,
the cow that Christians

have father, son, Holy
Ghost, and the Jews have

Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
all ancient religions

have a trial of God. Why,
it goes back very, very

far, there's a very good
reason for the concept

of a trial in God. The
trial in God is one God,

but three divine persons, where
it goes back to son worship.

The son in the morning was the
newborn savior, and the son is your savior,

and it does rise, it
rises every morning, so

he was your risen
savior, and if you don't

make the son is your savior,
wait till it don't come up.

So the son was your risen
savior, at noon, the son

became known to the
ancient world as the most high.

Why can't it don't get
any higher than high noon?

So therefore he's the most
high, later on he's dying,

so therefore it's the
baby in the morning, the

morning, he becomes full
grown and 12th and now he's

going to die, and his old age,
three persons and one God.

Hold that thought right there, we'll
come up to another break ladies and

gentlemen, my special guest
tonight, Jordan Maxwell, stay with us.

Most Mark Passio, my website,
whatonearthishappening.

com, this evening my special guest,
a cult researcher, Jordan Maxwell.

Before we go back to asking
Jordan a couple more questions,

I have just a couple
more questions, I want to

run by Jordan, and then
we're going to go to your

calls in the third hour.
I want to give Jordan

the opportunity in this
second half of this hour

to let the listening
audience know about a very

stressful situation that
he's been undergoing,

regarding actually of
all things his own name.

Jordan, do you want to
inform the audience about this?

Yes, well thank you, it is very distressing,
you have no idea how distressing it is,

you know because I'm
almost 74 years old, I

don't really understand
the technology of today,

I've got a phone cell phone,
I don't know how to use it.

I'm just doing the best I can with just
working on computers, and so I don't really

understand the technology
of today, I'm studying

my subject, and so I have to depend on
somebody to help me because I have nothing,

I own nothing, I have no
problem, I don't know the

phone, I don't have a
family, I have no checkbook,

no credit card, no card,
I own and have nothing,

so I have to depend on
someone who's younger,

who's been to help me
to do my work, all I want is

to put my work out to
the world and do what I do,

but I need help doing
that because I don't

understand the technology,
so when someone comes to

visit me, which people
do all the time, they come

to visit me, and they see
how I live with nothing,

they say oh my god,
let me help you, I only

want to help you, and
I say I wish you what,

I appreciate if somebody
would help me, so they

say oh yeah, let me
do your website for you,

just me and we'll handle
your distribution product

and we'll do the, we'll
connect your email for

you, and we'll just
help you, and so all we

need to do is we need
to get permission to do

this for you, so we
need to assign this piece

of paper that gives us
permission to be your

webmaster and do
all this stuff for you, so

I do I assign it, and
then they have my web,

now they have ownership
of my website for me,

and so what happens
is, and has happened is

when I found out the
webmaster I had four years

ago, four or five, four
and a half years ago,

when I found out that
this young man was not

who I thought he was,
and I found out this

proclivities and who
he went with is trying to

like this really like, I
didn't know, I'm just an

old man and a young
man comes in once to help

people, but when I found
out what he was really

all about, it shocked
me, and so I decided I

don't want you to do it
with me, I don't want you

to my company anymore,
I don't want you to do

anything for me anymore,
just give me back my website,

and you go your way
up your mind to which he

said, oh, no, no, nobody
walked away from me,

and so I found out that
he went into the back of

my website and changed
the ownership from my name

to his name, he changed the email, my
private email that I'd have with my website,

he redirected my private
email to himself, and of

course he had already
redirected the bank account

to his personal bank account, and then
behind my back not knowing that he went to

San, to Washington,
D.C., and copyrighted all of

my books and tapes and
videos that I've produced

over the years, and
copyrighted them all, he

combined my back and I
didn't really think about it,

then he went to the
trademark department and tried

to trademark my name
so that he would actually

own my name, my product,
my money, my email,

my bank account,
everything, he owns it all,

and when I confronted
him on this, he said, look

it, just get out there and
make me some money,

and so at that point
I was devastated, I

didn't realize the depth
that people will go,

because I've had people
cheating me about four,

but this took the cake,
I've never had anyone steal

everything I own, and
then talked to me like

I was a fool, so I
had to talk to lawyers,

and my lawyers of
course would say, oh, this

is terrible, we could do
something about this,

but don't cost you
10,000, I don't have a nickel,

I never have anyone,
and whatever money I did

have, it goes to him
now, so for years, so the

past four years, all the
products that have been

sold on my old
website jordantvexwell.

com, jordantvexwell.com has
not belonged to me for four years,

because my webmaster,
he's the one that has the

codes and the passwords
and the username, I don't,

I never knew anything
about username, I don't

know what you think
about passwords and codes,

I'm 74 years old, but
he does, so he went into

my website, stole my
website, stole my money,

redirected my emails,
which has mailed for them

told by attorneys, and
now people writing me all

over the world, goes
to him, and he answers

as it was me, and he's
sending out, you know,

invitations to donate money to jordantvexwell,
he needs your help, financial help,

and so people are sending money to him,
unbelievable, unbelievable criminality,

and in your face, but
I can't do anything

about it, because I'm
broke, I have nothing,

I've got my life's work
has been stolen from me,

and so the best I can
do is just get a lawyer,

if I had the money, so I've had some people
come in and say, jordant, let us help you,

you don't have to sign anything, you
don't have to give us your life's work,

but I'm not going to steal
from you, we'll get you a

good attorney, and we'll
put a kick stoner or something

up there, some kind
of a donate button, to at

least get some money
in, to get in the attorney,

to get your life back,
to get my work back, so

that's why I have a little
radio show that was done

for me, and I don't know if you think about
radio, let me have to put a show together,

I just do what I do, but
I am already on show

me how it's a little
podcast called jordant,

Maxwell Show, very
simple, the jordant medical

show, and on that,
I've got about 36 little

or 36 different shows,
it's all free, I have guessed

on and I talk around
well on myself on my own

show, but it's a podcast,
jordant Maxwell Show,

and if you go there,
there's a button for a kick

stoner, and there's
another button there for

a direct donation to
me, so I've just asked

him anyone who would
like to help me get my life

back, and be able to pay
an attorney, because I've

got a very good copyright,
motion picture, copyright

attorney, who saw my
plight, and said, jordant,

this is criminal, let me
take care of this in court,

I'll do this, I'm going
to get your life back,

your money, and everything else that was
stolen from you, so, glad, but you know,

attorney has passed
money, I don't have any

for all these, he's
working on it anyway, so I

appreciate that, but I
would like to be able

to pay him, and I'd like
to also continue to do

the radio shows, but I
don't have the money for

that too, because if
you know who I'd like to,

I'll still go money to do
a radio show, continue

with it, I don't have
the money to do it.

All expenses associated
with equipment, with

bandwidth, with hosting, it's
not free as many people think.

It's not as easy as people think it is to
do as far as the technical know-how goes.

When I edit this podcast, I sit here for an
hour or two, even after the show is done,

I edit out the commercials,
I have to upload it

to a site, I have to build
an article on a content

management system, it's
not like you press a button

and a podcast puts it hosts
itself, it doesn't happen.

I don't know how
to do any of that, I

don't even know, I'm just
learning how to work out

computers, I don't know
how to do that, but I have

a dear friend, a couple
of guys that have come

in to help me, and they
put a website together for

the podcast and the
show, and they put a little

Kickstarter up there, so
I can have a Kickstarter.

By the way, I've heard
your new radio show,

the new incarnation,
the Jordan Maxwell show,

and I just want to say
it's absolutely brilliant,

it's really great work
that you're doing on that

show, I've listened
to them all, and I think

it's a phenomenal show,
and let's be very clear

and tell the audience
the exact website that

is yours, it is JordanMaxwellShow.com,
that is your now official website,

so anybody that is going
to any other website, that

is not Jordan Maxwell's
official site, and if you

are putting any kind of
donations toward that site

or buying anything
through that site, that is not

going to Jordan, none of
those proceeds will go to Jordan.

The only site that
is valid for Jordan

is JordanMaxwellShow.com, be very specific,
and make sure you get to that correct site.

So Jordan, we'll pick this
up on the other side of

the break, ladies and
gentlemen, don't go anywhere,

you're listening to what
on earth is happening with

my special guest for the evening,
Jordan Maxwell, we'll be right back.

I'm your host Mark
Passio, my website,

whatonearthishappening.com,
my special guest this evening,

a cult researcher,
Jordan Maxwell.

Jordan, in this segment, I'll
let you wrap up your thoughts

on the very unfortunate
series of events that

have been conducted
against you. Let's call this

what it really is, this is pure
and simple identity crime.

I mean, the individual stole your very
identity and stole the proceeds of your

life's work and the research
that you've done over

the many years, and I'll
let you continue and wrap

up what you want to tell the listening
audience regarding that situation.

Well, that's exactly what
happened when I found

out, like I said, what
caused this is what I found

about any of you,
whether it's private life was

all really about. I wanted
nothing more to do with

them and I told them
that I said, because, you

know, you work for me.
You know, I'm supposed to

be my friend and helping
me. You're younger than I am.

I thought you wouldn't help me.

I don't want you around me. I don't
want you to do with your mouth now.

And, you know, so this response was,
okay, I own you now. I own you, I own your

name, I own your product,
I own your bank account,

I own everything. So
now, you know, you're not

going to get rid of me. I own
you. So I was told by everyone.

I was told you need to get it

out there, old man, and make
me some money to I own you.

I own your name,
I own your website,

I own your email, the
bank account, the product.

You know, he fell
about, he fell about an

affidavit about the
penalty of perjury and said it

to the trademark department
to trademark my name.

Then steal my name from
me. Well, he got caught

on that one from Fred's
calling on that one.

And so he backed
off of that, but he still

copyrighted all my products,
stole everything from

me and that's the opinions.
And so that's what my

friends have put this, you
know, this dummy button

up to hopefully donate
some money so that I can

pay my lawyer and get my life back. That's
one of mine. Do you want to thank you?

Do you want to out this individual
by name on the air here tonight?

Well, I think it's I think
it's already out there.

I think it's already out there.

The name was Joseph J. O. S.
He has Joseph Dolan's L. E. O.

L. E. C. A. L. Dolan's L. And
it's his father and his brother.

We have them in the company.

There are three of them in
the company. Joseph Dolan's L

and Jacob Dolan's L. I'm
blaming them by name

because it's good that people should know
not to deal with individuals like this.

And the only way they're
going to know is if they're

outed by name right
there. So that's what the

science is already out
there on the lawsuit to be

go to go to the federal
trademark department to see

where they signed it and
and trying to trademark

my name and stole my
money and and Jacob Dolan's

L. Tony. We've got a
new plan for you. Oh, man.

You're going to get out there
and make us some money.

So get off your lazy
bucket, get out there and

start making us some
money. So at that point, I

just, I don't know, this is
a 20-sexual kid and he's

telling me at 74 stuff like
that. So that's what I guess.

God, unfortunately, that's
the God that they worship.

You know, I will be sure with this podcast
to include the proper link to your site

and I'll have a link
there for your Kickstarter

campaign as well.
And that is under the

player for tonight's
show. If you're listening

at the What On Earth is
happening.com radio show

page, you'll see under
the player. There is a link

underneath Jordan's
biography his short bio there.

It says you could visit
the Jordan Maxwell

Kickstarter campaign.
So if you feel like Jordan's

information has been a
value to you through the

many years he's been
doing this research and

providing it for people,
you can make a donation

at that Kickstarter page.
So Jordan, if you want

to do a few more
questions in the remainder of

this segment, and then
we'll go to some calls

in the next segment and hear what listeners
have to ask. Okay? Sounds good. Great.

Just a couple of quick
personal questions, if I may.

What would you
say to you is the most

influential, if you had to
pick one single influential

book that you want to
one book to recommend

to people, what would
that most single influential

book on your entire
mindset throughout your life

have been and why?
Well, that's really a difficult

question because I have
hundreds of reference books

and one half of them are prices pieces of
work and and they're profoundly important.

But I guess I would have
to say, for especially if you're

interested in the modern
day world that you're living

in, the book is called
Fire in the Minds of Men,

FIRA Fire in the Minds
of Men. It's written by

James Billington and
James Billington today is

the chief library of
Congress. So you don't get

any more academically
correct than the chief

library and for the
library of Congress.

And he has written
many books, but this one

particular thick volume
called Fire in the Minds

of Men is a mind
trip reading it.

This guy has an incredible
storyteller, but he documents

all of the occultism
and politics, religion,

secrets, societies, the
Muslims, the words,

the terms, the Illuminati,
where the Democratic

and Republican Party
really came from and talks

about the Illuminati, the
Mormons, the Jehovah's

Witnesses, the sects,
the cults and the money,

the banking industry,
the whole entire dirty

world of hidden
knowledge, hidden power,

hidden wisdom, the
chief library and for the

library of Congress,
James Billington wrote up a

novel about Fire in
the Minds of Men.

That should take you about
10 years to go through that.

All right, great. Let's see what other
questions that I have here. How about if you

could spend some time
with any individual living

or deceased past or
present? And you could pick

their brain for a while.
Who would it be and why?

Well, again, I don't
have to think about that

because there have been
so many brilliant people

that I've already been
in the press and the

presence of all my life I
have been in bless to be

in the company of
extraordinarily brilliant people.

I think it would be
my girlfriend's father,

my first girlfriend in
California, her father.

I would love to be able to
sit and talk with him again.

But that's a personal
thing because

he was one of the most
extraordinary experiences I've ever had.

My first girlfriend
would have a father.

You may have heard
me tell the story about it.

And about him and my girlfriend

when I was 19 years old.
But he was an extraordinary

man and I would love to be
able to talk with him again.

Have you ever
heard the story I told

about my girlfriend and
his father for her father?

I have not. Go ahead. Well, I was about
in 1959 and 19 years old, 19 year old kid,

freshly from Florida and
I'm in Los Angeles and

North Hollywood. And
one morning I go into the

restaurant in downtown
North Hollywood, in 1959.

And there was no room anywhere
except one chair at the counter.

So I'm sitting down next to this young
girl. I might teach you a photo at 17 or 18.

And we get to talk, you can find that
she only lived a couple blocks from being a

mile, lived about
three blocks in town.

She had walked downtown. I had
two. So we walked back home together.

And so we started meeting each other all
weekend downtown and we walked home.

And so but she lived about
two blocks further than I did.

So she knew where I lived.
And I never followed home.

So I didn't know
exactly where she lived.

And one night she came
over to my house and she said

my dad wants to talk to
you. And of course that

wasn't interesting
to talk to her father.

She said, "No, my father's
very important, very

interesting and he wants
to try to do something.

" So I thought that
sounded interesting.

So I went with her and
when I went there to kind of

short her, my girlfriend
and her younger sister,

she's the two girl
set on the floor.

The mother was in the kitchen.
The father and I set on a long sofa.

He set on one end.
I set on the other.

And we were talking
and you know, just small

talk asked me how I'm
working and how did you

like the job, how long have
you been here, center, center.

And so I felt all
right about him.

But there was something very,
very, very strange about him.

But I felt confident
and wasn't threatened

because he was talking
about normal things that

I could really do. And
so in the conversation,

he then, when I was
feeling all right about

him, because he realized that
was very sensitive to Louis once.

And then he said to me, he said, "Remember
back when you were eight years old and

you're dead, built and do back porch
back in Florida and your uncle helped him.

You're dead, built and do
back porch. Remember that?

He turned down the old back
porch and he built the new one

and he built the back
porch with green lumber and

a smell of funny. Remember,
you were about eight

years old and your dad
built and moved back porch.

You remember doing
something that happening?

And it frightened me. I
didn't want to show tears

in front of my girlfriend,
but it scared me,

because it was right.
I did do. I did do back

porch when I was
eight. And I went, "Well,

what do you know that?"
And then he said to me,

he said, "Remember,
one night you were in bed,

you were supposed to
be sleeping, but you got up

and you went out in the back porch and
looked at the moon and the moon was full.

You remember doing that?
And I just looked at him because I

didn't remember doing
that." And he said, "You

looked up at the moon
and you were kicking the

wind with your finger
because the smell of funny,

like the green lumber
and you were picking the

pieces of, you know, with
your finger and putting

in your mouth like a
toothpick. Remember?

" And I just looked at him because
he was absolutely frightening me.

I had no idea in the world how you
knew that. And he said to me, "Well,

how in the world
did I know that?

" And I said, "I don't know how
you know that." He said, "Well,

did you do what I said?"
I said, "Yes, you're right.

You need to know how when I
know that." And I said, "I don't know.

" And he said, "Well,
I was there. I saw you.

" "We were sitting on the other
side of the break. Stay with us, folks.

" Welcome back,
everyone. You're listening to

what on earth is happening.
We're into the third

hour for this evening
with my special guest, a cult

researcher, Jordan
Maxwell. Jordan, I'll let you

wrap up the story that
you were telling about

a former girlfriend's
father. And I'll let you

pick it up where you left
off before the last break.

Yeah, so he said to
me, I'm front of the two

girls, as I said, sitting
on the floor, and he and

I all started
with all this stuff.

And he said, "You know, he
told me about my dad building a

golf course with my
alcohol, which he did.

" And he said that he used green
lumber in a smell funny, which it did.

And then he said that one night,

he said, "You were supposed
to be a bear that you got up.

" And he went out and settled on the back
porch and we were looking at the phone.

No, which I did. I remember
that this statement.

And he said, "And then you
talked to God, didn't you?

" And I just looked at him.

He said, "Well, did you or
didn't?" And he said, "Yes, I did.

" And he said, "Well,
what did you say to God?

" And I didn't say anything
to him. I just looked at him.

He said, "Well, I'll
tell you what you said.

" You said to God that
you wanted to do something

important with your
life. You wanted your life

to have a purpose
for something to do.

And you wanted your life to be
important to do something with it.

And he said, "So
that what you said?

" And I looked at him and I
said, "Yes, that's what I said.

" And he said to me,
"How did I know that?

How would I know all of this?

" And I said, "I don't know how you
know. I have no idea how you know this.

" And he said, "I know
this because we were there.

We were right
there watching you.

" And I said, "What do
you mean we were watching

me?" And he said, "We
were there. How would I know

everything that you
did?" Everyone was there.

And I said, "I don't
understand what you mean.

" And he said, "Well, it's not
important. What you need to know

is that we've been
watching you for a long time.

And you did ask,
after all, you did ask.

So we're going to give you an
opportunity to do something with your life.

" And he said, "But what you're going to
do for us, you will not do it to the very

last part of your life."
So just understand,

we have something for
you to do and you will do it.

But it will not come
until the very last

part of your life. So I
asked him, "So what is

it I'm supposed to do?"
And he said, "That's not

important because even
if I explained it to you, you

wouldn't understand." Now,
but there will come a day

and when in the last
part of your life, where you

will know what you have
to do and what you're doing.

And so, and you'll know
what we have for you to

do. So as it turns out,
that was very startling.

That was a very incredible experience.
But I do know. I do know what I have to do,

what I'm doing and why I do
it. But I felt a man to all make it.

I felt a man. And I thought I was doing
something of value to help people to

research and wake up and
to, and so I started talking

about the conspiracies in
government back in 1859, 1661.

I was going around
giving the lectures

at Little Mickey Mouse occasion, like in
bookstores and women's clubs and all that.

Back in the early 60s and 70s. So,
you know, I've been on my life's work.

Well, now I'm toward
the end of my life's work.

Now, I'm 74 years old.

I now see that all the things
I was talking about that

were happening in
the secret society of the

Illuminati and the
federal reserve and all that

it relates to Hitler's
and all of these subjects

that I've been talking
about. I used to talk

about these things
in Hollywood for years.

I would go around to the
motion picture studio that

night and the working
class people, not the

executive, but the working
people would get me

in and I would go into
the sound stages that

night at one of others in
different motion picture

studios and get slide
presentations, Little

Mickey Mouse cheap
little side presentations,

do a bunch of people,
you know, all these were,

you know, off from work
and just sitting on the

sound stage and we
set up a camera, I mean a

projector and I was talking
about the Illuminati and

and that it's called
society and all the stuff

going on by the religion
and the dark of cults,

forces in the world and nights, titlers,
and women, not even banking and all that.

Well, today, now, of course,
it's everywhere in Hollywood.

Now it's all over the
DaVinci code and national

treasure about the
law of the rest of it, but

this is the stuff I was
talking about being many

years ago and today,
you know, today I have far

more than I had never
told today and a lot of

the stuff I can't talk about in public, but
I'm trying my best to alert my fellow man

to all the dangers which
are going on and what

I've received for is
young people coming in

and taking my website,
taking my everything outwork

or stealing at all and
treating me like a fool,

so I just, my feeling
is at this point, I'm

very philosophical about
my life, my mortality,

I, I, I've already come
to terms with that, I'm

not going to be able to
show you, so I do the best

I can to help my fellow
man in the face of

people stealing from me
lying to me and taking it

within my own, but I
feel the dollar bills will

eventually have to go
to jail because they have

really committed some
serious crimes and they,

they have no idea that
there are some felonies,

big time felonies
that's going to put them

in jail and those days
are coming, so I just

wait on the great spirit,
may not call God because

I believe in God, so I
just wait and see what

the great spirit will do
to, to help me to get

my work back and get
my life back because I feel

that I still have a lot to do yet and
I'm sure that that's part of my life.

And, and you will
continue to do it, and you'll

do it effectively because
you've been doing

the great work for a very long time and the
universe is going to open up its arms and

ultimately reward you
for having done that work.

I feel that is the,
the greatest form of

protection that anybody
can really bring upon

themselves is when they
step into the truth and

speak it and do so
unapologetically because

it is the right thing to
do as you have done.

I, I, I appreciate that
because I personally

have a very strong belief
in the presence of the God.

I think it's looked out
my mind that there's

a higher intelligence
for family-wide and all

powerful, pervading the
universe and especially

us, but I don't have
any problem with God.

I have a problem with
organized corporate takeover

of the world by men
who are dark and people

and have sinister plots
against the human rights.

Well, I understand
it. I know it's all about

the love and talking
about for 15 years, but I

really would like to get
out from under these

young times who have stolen everything from
an old man and really killed me on my own,

on my own website and
really killed me a public.

And at the same time,
they're really killing me

and calling me names.
They're trying to sell my,

my product, obviously,
because they're making

a lot of money while
they're very killing me.

They should tell you
something about their mentality.

Tells you everything you
need to know about their

character because their
character is based in,

in the desire for famine.
That's their God. Yeah.

You know, especially that's going to bring
them cosmic retribution that being there.

Well, don't know about it.
Yeah, don't know about it.

Absolutely. Especially
I chose to build the,

the, the kid with his private
life stuff that I know about.

I, I, you have no idea in the world
that's his into. So when I found out, I

think what they do with him is
immediate reaction is walking.

What are you
going to do about it?

I own everything.
I'm in control.

So I've changed everything
over to me. So I own it all.

And he probably thinks
with the corrupt court

systems and everything
that, you know, they'll,

they'll side in his favor or something
like that. That's probably where he's been.

Yeah. Yeah. So I do the best I can.
I'm still doing what I can do.

And Jordan, we, we appreciate you for doing
it. So, uh, you want to take some calls?

Absolutely. That's great.
Great. Let's go to the phones.

First call around the
line this evening is

Jay and Pennsylvania.
Jay, welcome. Oh, how?

Jay is this Jay Parker. Yeah.
Jay, uh, I'm going to get

to your call on the
other side of the break.

A commercial break is,
is catching this right here,

but stay with us. And
you'll be the first person

to be able to ask Jordan a
question on the other side.

Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to
what on earth is happening with my special

guest Jordan Maxwell.
We'll be right back.

Welcome back, everyone.
You're listening to what on earth

is happening here on
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I'm your host, Mark Passio, my
website, what on earth is happening.

com special guest this evening.

Jordan Maxwell, we were
about to go to the phones.

I apologize. I wasn't
paying attention to the

time clock and the last
segment. So, uh, we were

on the line with Jay
Parker in Philadelphia.

Jay, uh, is one of the,
uh, speakers of the first

two freer mine conferences
right here in Philadelphia.

Jay is also a, uh, uh, survivor
of satanic ritual abuse.

And Jay actually hosts his own show
on satanic ritual abuse. And, uh, uh, uh,

it's a show that also
discusses solutions to

the problems that
humanity faces in our world.

Jay, uh, welcome to what
on earth is happening.

And, uh, what do you
have for us this evening?

Well, I just wanted to,
uh, thank Maxwell, Jordan

Maxwell for all the work
he's done, uh, certainly a

great volume of work. And,
uh, although the numbers

are small, uh, I believe
that people who are

doing due diligence and
researching and studying,

uh, they, they are real
human beings and, uh,

should be encouraged to
wake up and to long these, uh,

secrets of the occult. I
have a question for Jordan

pertaining to something
that was on his website

years ago, uh, that I
saw. And, uh, it was a

symbol, uh, like
it, it was in a circle.

And it was like an
electronic symbol.

And you were asking if anyone knew
what that symbol was on your website.

And I saw that
symbol. I was shown it,

uh, when I was about
five years old in the,

uh, Illuminati, uh,
group that I grew up in,

and they were asking me if I
knew what that symbol was.

And I wanted to
know if Jordan still

had a copy of that symbol. And if,
uh, he could, uh, get it to Mark Passio.

Yes. Let me, let me, uh,
uh, on your talk about

the, uh, the symbol where
the little arrows pointing

all out in all directions
from circles and little

arrows and long, uh, arrows
pointing out for my circle.

Is that what you
were talking about?

The one I saw on my, I, I
put there on my website

that I saw this on my,
uh, on my computer.

Is that, is that interesting? Yes.
Yeah. Someone, someone sorry to you.

I've given you posted
it on your website.

And we're asking me, uh,
people, you know what this is.

And I have, I've we shown that exact
same symbol when I was about five years old

and my mother asked me,
she was in Illuminati, which

worked for the DuPont.
And, uh, she, uh, by the way,

was the one who, my
control program, John DuPont,

the era of the DuPont
fortune that kills, uh,

the rest of her show,
uh, she set him up.

And I just want to say
that I, I really want to get a

hold of that symbol again.
So I have, uh, I think it happens.

If you want to,
uh, email, uh, my,

go on my website, join
me Maxwell show and,

and, and ask for that
symbol. And I'll tell the

people who are manning
my site to look for

your email and put a cult
symbol in the, in the title.

Um, and then I'll,
I'll send it to you.

I've got it. Boy, I don't, I
would never forget that symbol.

So I've been copies
of it all by hard drive.

So yeah, I've got
it. I'll send it to you.

I would be surprised to see what
you might have to see about it.

Well, that's quite
Jordan. And, uh, I just

want to thank you again
and keep up good work.

Well, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Do the email. We all get back to you.

Thank you. Excellent.
Thanks so much for the call, Jay.

Let's hear from Don
in South Carolina.

Don, your live on what on
earth is happening with my

special guest, Jordan
Maxwell. Welcome to John.

Uh, hello, Mark. How are you
doing? It's John, by the way.

John, I'm sorry. It's
okay. Doing Jordan.

How are you doing? Well,
apparently. Well, I think

I, uh, I just wanted you
to know, uh, I'm about,

I'm 65 years old. And
you can, this is one person

that you can say to your
responsible for changing his life.

Because I kind of
grew up with a lot of

this stuff when I was
coming up. I grew up as a,

you know, was witness.
And I learned as an early age

how wrong that was.
So I got very interested

in investigating
things, especially in the,

the biblical sense,
because the entire Western

world's strategies is based on
their interpretation of the Bible.

So I spent my early
years doing a lot of that.

And then after my first divorce, I
was in a hotel room and watching TV.

This was before a whole lot of
things started on the internet.

And, uh, watching TV and
only one of these oddball

stations, it had Jordan Maxwell.
I've never seen Jordan before.

And it was showing
some Illuminati stuff.

And Jordan gave, gave a speech.

I can't remember what it was.
But I thought about that for

a couple of years. And
when I found Jordan on the

internet, I probably
spent a month sitting in

there watching every video that
he did, every video I could find.

And I just, you
know, he really made

a big, big difference in
my life. And I just wanted

him to know that.
Well, I appreciate it.

Thank you very much. I
just, I'm just doing what I do.

And hopefully, you know,
whoever's supposed to hear me

well, whoever's not
supposed to hear me well.

And so I appreciate it though.
You don't have any good comments.

I have a, I have a question for, for you,
Jordan, if I lay and also one for Mark too.

You were talking earlier about the Hebrews
being, you know, their, um, uh, he don't

see, he don't see
Yistica in that correct.

He doesn't see Yistica.
What about the Zionist sect?

Is that, does they not,
um, or at least put out

the idea that their
amount of Yistica? Yeah.

Well, Zionism is not
Jewish. It has zero nothing

to do with being
Hebrew or Jewish.

It's a, it's a very, very hidden,
well-hidden political society.

It's a very profoundly dark and, and
well-hidden operation. It has nothing to do

with being Jewish at
all. Zionism has zero to

do with being Jewish
and Israeli period.

And the reason why some of
the things you need to know

about the Zionist is
that when the original

Zionist, she and
Wiesman and, and her soul,

her soul, she and Wiesman,
the people who were

founding Zionism, who
they really were, what

they were connected
to, the secret society that

they were connected to.
But when the Zionist was

looking to form their
own homeland, their own

base of operations,
political base of operations,

the first place they picked
was Uganda, African.

That's a fact in history.

They take Uganda, but the
British after looking at it decided

that doesn't sell like
it's going to work.

So they abandoned, the
Zionist abandoned Uganda as

the, as the homeland of
the Jews. And then they

went to, they went to,
they went to four other

places on the earth.
They even talked about,

they even had discussions
with the president

at the time about the
president of the U.S.

, about having a
homeland in Texas, but the

detective, but the Texas
state and the, and the

federal government
decided that's not going to be

very smart having a
Zionist homeland in Texas.

So they abandoned that
one. Well, there's about

three or four more other places that
they tried to set up their homeland.

And finally, they decided,
well, let's go to the Middle East

and nobody knows who's
there. And so they went

to the Middle East. Well,
you need to understand

that if it was really
based on the Bible and the

biblical idea of God's
chosen people, they would

have went to Israel to
start with. They wouldn't

have gone to Uganda and
Texas or all the other places.

It's in the history
box. Look at all the

different places that Zionism
was set up all that didn't work.

Jordan, we're coming
up to another break.

Ladies and gentlemen,
we'll be right back

after these words.
You're listening to what on

earth is happening. Stay
with us. Back every one.

This is what on earth is happening.
I'm your host Mark Passio.

My special guest this evening, Jordan
Maxwell, we were taking a call from John from

South Carolina, and he had
asked Jordan about Zionism.

And Jordan, you were talking about the
orders within Zionism had been debating among

themselves about setting up a
base, a political base of operations.

I'll let you pick it
up from that point.

Well, like I said, it has
nothing to do with God,

God gave this land to
the Jewish people and

then, you know, this
is the, uh, that it was in

both filled with a Bible
prophecy and a bunch of both.

You go back to, you
go back to the beginning

of Zionism and you read
the Baron von Harrison,

she advisement, and the
other Zionist was what they

were really talking
about. If you go back and

read it and find out where
the money came from,

always straight to money.
Half the day that the

technical today of that
always traced the money,

where did the money come
from? And so, when you

traced the money behind
Zionists, I've been traced

to seek the society that gave
the money to the Zionists.

And then, when you
see that the Zionists

wanted to establish their
first moment, and like

I said, Africa, Uganda,
and that didn't work,

and then they will put it in text. If that
didn't work, well, they don't put it in.