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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,588 --> 00:00:24,580 [Greaves] One other thing. And that is the problem of matching. 2 00:00:24,657 --> 00:00:28,149 - [Siren Wailing] - We should all wear the same shirt. 3 00:00:28,228 --> 00:00:31,163 - [Bob] I veto that absolutely. - [Greaves Laughs] 4 00:00:31,231 --> 00:00:33,722 [Bob] Everybody is gonna be sweating like pigs out there. 5 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,099 How do we put on these shirts? They're gonna be like armor. 6 00:00:37,170 --> 00:00:41,664 - [Siren Continues] - Okay. All right. This is Clive Davidson over here. 7 00:00:41,741 --> 00:00:43,936 He's an assistant cameraman. 8 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:48,174 - Phil Parker is our production assistant. - [Siren Continues] 9 00:00:48,248 --> 00:00:52,742 Uh, Jeff Norwalk is an- uh, assistant director. 10 00:00:52,819 --> 00:00:55,788 Uh, Roland Mitchell is not a soundman actually. 11 00:00:55,855 --> 00:00:59,291 He is a soundman, but he's also an assistant cameraman. 12 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:01,657 This is Steve Larner... 13 00:01:01,728 --> 00:01:04,561 and this is Maria Zaheri. 14 00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:07,828 And this is the magnificent Terence McCartney-Filgate. 15 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:11,530 I was afraid you may not have got your sync, so I'm gonna give you a - a handclap. 16 00:01:11,604 --> 00:01:14,300 - I feel you may not have got it. - [Man] And who are you? 17 00:01:14,374 --> 00:01:18,538 - I'm, uh, Sonny Tufts. - [Laughter] 18 00:01:18,611 --> 00:01:22,638 Uh, this is, uh, uh, Bill Henderson. He's an assistant director. 19 00:01:22,715 --> 00:01:24,649 - This is the illustrious- - Hello. 20 00:01:24,717 --> 00:01:28,050 Uh, Robert- Ro- Uh, is it Rossen or Rosen? 21 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:30,055 - Rosen. - Rosen. 22 00:01:30,123 --> 00:01:32,057 - And this is the- - I'm Jewish. 23 00:01:32,125 --> 00:01:34,958 The lovely, charming Barbara Linden. 24 00:01:36,229 --> 00:01:38,925 This is Mr. "Kenvin"Fenlon from Canada. 25 00:01:40,133 --> 00:01:42,294 - [Bob Laughs] - Who is, uh, an assistant director. 26 00:01:42,368 --> 00:01:44,893 - That's the wrong name, by the way, Phil. - Kevin Fenlan? 27 00:01:44,971 --> 00:01:47,371 - No. You said "Kenvin." - L- Oh. 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,034 - [Bob] "Kenvin." - Kevin. Kevin. Kevin. Forgive me. 29 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:52,544 Forgive me, Doctor. Uh, uh... 30 00:01:52,612 --> 00:01:57,242 Barbara Linden is, uh, our script girl and, uh, uh... 31 00:01:57,317 --> 00:02:00,514 also our makeup and costume lady. 32 00:02:00,587 --> 00:02:02,578 And this is Scott Brody... 33 00:02:02,655 --> 00:02:05,749 who is, um, a production assistant. 34 00:02:05,825 --> 00:02:08,658 All right. So, now, we're clear on the, uh- on the slating. 35 00:02:08,728 --> 00:02:12,494 - [Bob] That was the first sequence to hit the cutting room floor. - Right? You understand that? 36 00:02:12,565 --> 00:02:16,001 That the sound - the sound person's gonna do the timing - 37 00:02:16,069 --> 00:02:18,230 the actual timing, uh, slate. 38 00:02:18,304 --> 00:02:20,238 [Larner] What good will that do, Bill? 39 00:02:20,306 --> 00:02:22,797 It -What it will do is it will tie... 40 00:02:22,876 --> 00:02:26,573 all of the various cameras, no matter what they're - 41 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:29,479 If I start running at the same time you could do that by measuring. 42 00:02:29,549 --> 00:02:31,779 No. But, you see, they'll begin to go out of sync. 43 00:02:31,851 --> 00:02:34,376 The various cameras will go out of sync with each other- 44 00:02:34,454 --> 00:02:39,255 out of sync in the sense that the roll numbers will be going out of sync with each other. 45 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:42,351 - [Siren Wailing] - You see? And the time is the thing... 46 00:02:42,428 --> 00:02:45,625 that locks in all these disparate roll numbers... 47 00:02:45,698 --> 00:02:48,861 - into one sequence that has been shot. - [Siren Stops] 48 00:02:48,935 --> 00:02:51,927 Well, then this information has somehow gotta get onto the film. 49 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:56,772 No. It doesn't have to get on the film because the sound recordist says, um... 50 00:02:56,843 --> 00:02:59,505 "Roll 14, 2:30." 51 00:02:59,579 --> 00:03:03,447 The system of the soundman announcing what the time is- 52 00:03:03,516 --> 00:03:07,418 [Greaves] No. He's made- No. He's raised an-a very important point. 53 00:03:07,487 --> 00:03:11,014 No. But - But that is - But that is much more meaningful in terms of editing... 54 00:03:11,090 --> 00:03:13,923 than taking this, you know - this thing here and going... tap. 55 00:03:13,993 --> 00:03:16,120 "Tail one," you know. "Tail two." 56 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:19,188 All right. Wait. Here's the point he's making, and this is a valid point. 57 00:03:19,265 --> 00:03:23,599 And that is - See, what we'll do is the - the first part of each roll will be so slated. 58 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:26,434 - That is, will be time slated on the sound. - [Larner] Yeah. Right. 59 00:03:26,506 --> 00:03:28,440 All right. But also... 60 00:03:28,508 --> 00:03:31,739 uh, within the -within the, uh, intermittent running of the camera - 61 00:03:31,811 --> 00:03:34,473 That is to say, we stop and start, we stop and start... 62 00:03:34,547 --> 00:03:36,640 - we'll just do this kind of slating. - [Siren Wailing] 63 00:03:37,884 --> 00:03:40,819 [Siren Continues] 64 00:03:43,523 --> 00:03:45,514 - [Siren Continues] - [Horn Honks] 65 00:03:48,962 --> 00:03:50,953 [Engine Starts] 66 00:03:58,705 --> 00:04:02,402 [Greaves] Yeah. What we're gonna do is, uh, we're gonna do a line reading first. 67 00:04:02,475 --> 00:04:04,602 And then we'll, uh - 68 00:04:04,677 --> 00:04:07,077 - What is the line reading? - Well, we just -just - 69 00:04:07,146 --> 00:04:09,842 I just want to hear you, you know, go back and forth... 70 00:04:09,916 --> 00:04:11,941 you know, with the lines, make sure that, uh... 71 00:04:12,018 --> 00:04:13,952 you know, we've got that under control. 72 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:16,750 - Yeah. - And then after we've done that... 73 00:04:16,823 --> 00:04:19,189 we'll, uh -we'll try to work out... 74 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:21,193 some kind of action... 75 00:04:21,261 --> 00:04:25,197 for you to, uh - to go through physically. 76 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:27,460 And, uh -And then we'll see what the problems - 77 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:30,331 You'll play the scene. Then we'll see what the problems are. 78 00:04:30,403 --> 00:04:36,069 Then we'll get into it increasingly more on a, uh - 79 00:04:36,142 --> 00:04:39,475 what, an emotional and, you know - 80 00:04:39,545 --> 00:04:41,479 Personal level. You know... 81 00:04:41,547 --> 00:04:43,606 more the dramatics of the situation. 82 00:04:46,219 --> 00:04:50,053 Okay. Um, Terry, I guess you can - you can start rolling. 83 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:52,250 I'm gonna do a line reading with them. 84 00:04:52,325 --> 00:04:54,793 [Terry] Yeah. Who do you want me to work with on the - 85 00:04:54,861 --> 00:04:56,852 Um, who you gonna work with? 86 00:04:56,929 --> 00:04:59,397 - I'm gonna work with my own recorder? - Yeah. 87 00:04:59,465 --> 00:05:01,729 No. You'll - You'll work, uh - 88 00:05:01,801 --> 00:05:04,167 You'll work against another recorder actually. 89 00:05:04,237 --> 00:05:06,205 You don't need to do any recording of this... 90 00:05:06,272 --> 00:05:09,264 because, uh, I'm just gonna do a line reading of them. 91 00:05:09,342 --> 00:05:11,276 And there's - there's no need to - 92 00:05:11,344 --> 00:05:13,505 [Terry] Which recorder am I going to work against? 93 00:05:13,579 --> 00:05:16,104 The recorder- I mean, uh, John here has got - 94 00:05:16,182 --> 00:05:18,878 - All right. - Hey. I'm picking up the cops. 95 00:05:18,951 --> 00:05:20,919 - [Greaves] You're picking up the cops? - Yeah. 96 00:05:22,689 --> 00:05:25,453 Are you- Are you shooting my makeup? 97 00:05:25,525 --> 00:05:28,494 - Yeah. - [Man] Want me to hold it for you, Audrey? 98 00:05:28,561 --> 00:05:30,529 [Greaves] Okay. Fine. All right. 99 00:05:30,596 --> 00:05:33,360 - All right. Okay. Let's go. - [Man #2] I'm having no luck here. 100 00:05:33,433 --> 00:05:35,958 Is there any way you can hold it steady for a while? 101 00:05:36,035 --> 00:05:39,095 [Bob] We're rolling when you get it. When you finish - 102 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,167 [Greaves] Okay. Let's- Let's run 'em. 103 00:05:44,243 --> 00:05:46,268 - [Freddie] Alice. - No. 104 00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:51,179 - Alice, wait a minute. Hey, come on. - No, no, no. 105 00:05:51,250 --> 00:05:54,083 Come on, sport. What's the matter with you? 106 00:05:55,288 --> 00:05:57,756 Just how stupid do you think I am? 107 00:05:59,926 --> 00:06:02,190 For Christ's sake, tell me what the matter is. 108 00:06:02,261 --> 00:06:04,821 You know perfectly well what the problem is. 109 00:06:05,832 --> 00:06:08,266 Now come on. Quit beating around the bush. 110 00:06:08,334 --> 00:06:11,667 [Laughs] 111 00:06:13,406 --> 00:06:15,636 Oh, God. 112 00:06:16,876 --> 00:06:20,937 - What's so funny? - Oh, Freddie, you're a very funny man. 113 00:06:22,181 --> 00:06:25,241 You know, you've really got me foxed. Really. 114 00:06:25,318 --> 00:06:27,582 Why don't you just go away. 115 00:06:28,588 --> 00:06:31,113 Just get out of my life permanently, Freddie. 116 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:33,886 Hey. Quit it. Stop acting. 117 00:06:35,528 --> 00:06:37,587 - Ow. - Don't you try and touch me, Freddie. 118 00:06:37,663 --> 00:06:40,154 You're really behaving quite impossibly. I'm not a mind reader. 119 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:42,224 I wish I were. 120 00:06:44,237 --> 00:06:47,673 I wish I knew what goes on in that screwy little brain of yours... 121 00:06:47,740 --> 00:06:50,834 which makes you think that everyone else is stupid except you. 122 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:54,209 [Freddie] Now look. For the last time, will you tell me what's going on? 123 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,544 Come on. Tell me what's bugging you. 124 00:06:59,018 --> 00:07:01,646 No. 125 00:07:01,721 --> 00:07:03,916 [Sighs] Ah, you tell me, Freddie, what - 126 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:08,359 who - or rather, what's bothering you, what's bugging you. 127 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:10,862 [Freddie] Alice, you're talking in circles. 128 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:12,921 Am I really, Freddie? 129 00:07:16,669 --> 00:07:20,366 Just how much of a phony can you be? [Groans] 130 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,704 I don't have to stand here and listen to this. 131 00:07:22,775 --> 00:07:26,267 - You don't even have the courtesy to tell me what's happening. - I'm a woman. 132 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:36,814 - And? - I'm a woman, Freddie. I'm not a fool. 133 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:42,154 I will not stand around and watch while you play your little games. 134 00:07:42,228 --> 00:07:45,823 - What games? - Do you think I'm a fool, Freddie? 135 00:07:49,569 --> 00:07:52,402 I saw him, and I saw you. 136 00:07:52,472 --> 00:07:56,533 - Him? - Him. Yes. That crazy faggot which everybody knows about. 137 00:07:56,609 --> 00:07:59,544 Oh, come on. What are you? Some kind of nut or something? 138 00:07:59,612 --> 00:08:01,580 Don't play naive with me, Freddie. 139 00:08:02,648 --> 00:08:04,741 I've put up with all your little escapades... 140 00:08:04,817 --> 00:08:07,650 and, you know, I'vejust about had it. 141 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,416 You've completely strained my patience on that score. 142 00:08:12,091 --> 00:08:15,925 I saw you eyeing him, and I saw him eyeing you. God. 143 00:08:15,995 --> 00:08:17,929 - You saw me eyeing him? - Yes. 144 00:08:17,997 --> 00:08:22,024 The kid smiled at me. I smiled back. What do you want to do? Nail me to the cross for that? 145 00:08:22,101 --> 00:08:24,262 A cross is too good for you, Freddie. 146 00:08:24,337 --> 00:08:27,204 Oh, wow. Now look. 147 00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:29,605 You didn't see what you thought you saw. 148 00:08:29,675 --> 00:08:33,236 - Did you hear me? - Get your hands off me, Freddie. 149 00:08:33,312 --> 00:08:36,440 [Freddie] All right. If you want to be paranoidal about the whole thing. 150 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:40,543 [Chuckles] Sure I want to be paranoidal about the whole thing. 151 00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:44,716 And about all those other things that you've been involved with. 152 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:48,419 You know, likeJack and Timmy. 153 00:08:49,428 --> 00:08:52,454 - And Mr. Handsome. - Look, I told you the truth about this morning. 154 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:56,628 But if you're gonna flog me with the past for the rest of our lives, then where are we? 155 00:08:56,702 --> 00:08:59,398 I don't know where you're at, mister. 156 00:08:59,472 --> 00:09:02,498 I just know that I want you to get out of my life. 157 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,535 When we get back to the apartment, one of us has to leave. 158 00:09:06,612 --> 00:09:09,410 Hey, baby. I can't let you do that. 159 00:09:12,051 --> 00:09:14,246 Now I know why we haven't had any children... 160 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,312 despite the talk about "wait until we're ready." 161 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:20,416 Freddie, you really had me fooled. 162 00:09:21,727 --> 00:09:25,026 Very fooled into thinking you could change. 163 00:09:25,097 --> 00:09:27,657 That you could actually change. 164 00:09:27,733 --> 00:09:29,667 - [Bob] Bill. - Yeah. 165 00:09:29,735 --> 00:09:31,703 - I need to call for a slate. - Okay. 166 00:09:31,771 --> 00:09:35,798 This is, uh, tail slate for camera... 167 00:09:37,043 --> 00:09:38,374 "B" and camera "C." 168 00:09:38,811 --> 00:09:42,747 If I was born a - If was born a thousand years from now, and just me - me - 169 00:09:42,815 --> 00:09:46,842 I could be the same person, though I would not be an American, I might not be a Jew... 170 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:50,013 I might not be, you know, whatever I am. 171 00:09:50,089 --> 00:09:53,547 But I would still be me, and I would have to be able to define those qualities. 172 00:09:53,626 --> 00:09:56,720 I'm me, what I am to other people and how I relate to them and how I am. 173 00:09:56,796 --> 00:10:01,665 - And the karma that comes out of me. That's who I am. That really is who I am. - Seems you have so many skins... 174 00:10:01,734 --> 00:10:06,171 - you never know whether you're into your real self or into one of your skins. - Oh, you don't know who she is. 175 00:10:06,238 --> 00:10:09,571 You know who you are now because you're on Ektachrome -What are you shooting? 176 00:10:09,642 --> 00:10:11,872 - [Bob] Ektachrome commercial. - Ektachrome commercial. 177 00:10:11,944 --> 00:10:14,003 And your voice is being recorded on tape. 178 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,379 - Say you know - - [Greaves] Wait a minute. What's going on here? What are you doing? 179 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,441 You will never, ever- Put the microphone up here. 180 00:10:19,518 --> 00:10:23,181 - [Greaves] What's happening? - You will never, ever have any more doubt who you are. 181 00:10:23,255 --> 00:10:25,246 - [Chattering] - You will always know. 182 00:10:25,324 --> 00:10:28,384 Jonathan, you're copping out. You're copping out. 183 00:10:28,461 --> 00:10:31,259 All right. We're gonna do - No. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. 184 00:10:31,330 --> 00:10:36,199 Just a moment. Please. We're gonna do this scene of, uh - Susan. 185 00:10:36,268 --> 00:10:38,998 And, John, could you go down there down by the statue? 186 00:10:39,071 --> 00:10:42,063 - [Greaves] Four? - [Bob] Four. She's got it on there. Four. 187 00:10:42,141 --> 00:10:44,735 [Bob] Bing. That was a slate. 188 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:48,405 - You did it. - [Terry] I like doing it, 'cause it'll let me look at your face again. 189 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:50,472 You head slated it. 190 00:10:50,549 --> 00:10:52,574 [Terry] Which is why I'm tail slating it. 191 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:55,712 [Bob] Whoo.! Whoo.! 192 00:10:55,788 --> 00:10:58,655 [Greaves] Uh, Steve. Steve. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Steve. 193 00:10:58,724 --> 00:11:02,683 Steve, wait a minute. Let's- Let- I don't care about getting in the cloister. 194 00:11:02,762 --> 00:11:05,788 - Let's get the bloody cloister. - I can't hold the sky. 195 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:08,493 - The sky. Not the cloister. - So I have to be wide open - 196 00:11:08,567 --> 00:11:12,059 I have to be so open for them that - You know, that's f/11 up there. 197 00:11:12,138 --> 00:11:15,005 - 'Cause we can't -The tripod legs. - The damn tripod leg is busted. 198 00:11:15,074 --> 00:11:18,601 - [Greaves] They won't extend? - [Bob] Yes. That's why. That's why. 199 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:20,908 [Greaves] Well, then I'm afraid the - 200 00:11:20,980 --> 00:11:24,245 the best thing to do would be to put the bloody thing on your shoulder. 201 00:11:24,316 --> 00:11:26,307 [Larner] Two magazine cases with a spreader? 202 00:11:26,385 --> 00:11:29,684 - [Chattering] - [Terry] Three magazine cases with a spreader. 203 00:11:29,755 --> 00:11:31,723 [Greaves] Just take it easy a moment. Uh- 204 00:11:31,791 --> 00:11:33,759 - [Man] All right. - [Greaves] What's happening? 205 00:11:33,826 --> 00:11:36,727 - [Bob] We're gonna fix it. - [Chattering] 206 00:11:36,796 --> 00:11:38,787 Okay. 207 00:11:41,934 --> 00:11:45,995 But the - the thing that distresses me, Steve - We still haven't solved the problem. 208 00:11:46,072 --> 00:11:48,632 Terry is looking right into your lens. 209 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:53,475 And I don't want him looking in your lens. Not on this - this, uh - 210 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:56,140 - Well, Terry, can you - - Well, then I won't shoot then. 211 00:11:56,215 --> 00:12:00,345 - Well, I'll shoot the bloody thing. I mean, hell. - [Terry] Where would you like me to move? 212 00:12:00,419 --> 00:12:02,819 - I'm happy to move. - He'll move. 213 00:12:02,888 --> 00:12:06,415 I'll move. Look into my lens and tell me, Greaves, what's in your heart. 214 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:10,385 - Come on. Now tell me the truth. - Tell him. Tell. Now. 215 00:12:10,463 --> 00:12:13,125 What's in your mind? Tell me your wishes, and they'll be carried out. 216 00:12:13,199 --> 00:12:16,600 Cut. I'm waving my magic wand. Hey, listen. 217 00:12:16,669 --> 00:12:19,729 - Well, he - he hasn't - - [Bob] He's running up all that film. 218 00:12:19,805 --> 00:12:23,070 - Has he got any- - He's wasting it. Ninety feet. You know how much that's gonna cost? 219 00:12:23,142 --> 00:12:25,269 - You know you're wasting my film? - That's like $25. 220 00:12:25,344 --> 00:12:27,312 - Hey, listen. - Twenty-five dollars. 221 00:12:27,379 --> 00:12:29,472 - Maybe I can, uh - - Do your Shakespeare. 222 00:12:29,548 --> 00:12:32,517 - [Greaves] Shall I do my impersonation of Gielgud doing- - Quick. Quickly. 223 00:12:32,585 --> 00:12:35,418 [Sniffs, Imitates Gielgud] Oh, what a rogue and peasant slave am I! 224 00:12:35,488 --> 00:12:38,321 [Sniffs] Is it not monstrous that this player here... 225 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:40,984 could but in a fiction, in a dream of passion - 226 00:12:41,060 --> 00:12:44,120 [Sniffs] Force his soul so to his own conceit - 227 00:12:44,196 --> 00:12:47,290 - [Sniffs] That from her working all his visage waned - - [Cheering, Applause] 228 00:12:47,366 --> 00:12:51,200 - [Bob] Beautiful. - [Man Whistles] 229 00:12:51,270 --> 00:12:54,933 Okay. All right. Look. Uh, let's-let's, uh- 230 00:12:55,007 --> 00:12:59,307 Are those the same, uh, glasses that you had the other day? 231 00:12:59,378 --> 00:13:02,040 Uh, yeah. Why don't we get rid of those, eh? 232 00:13:02,114 --> 00:13:05,140 Um, now, um - 233 00:13:06,585 --> 00:13:08,917 - In the last time that we worked on this - - Mm-hmm. 234 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:12,116 It seemed to me that, uh... 235 00:13:12,191 --> 00:13:14,819 not enough of your, uh, aggression... 236 00:13:14,894 --> 00:13:17,385 not enough of your virility, you know, was coming through. 237 00:13:17,463 --> 00:13:20,921 That is to say, uh, there's a great deal of- You know, it was very moving. 238 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,130 You were very emotionally involved, you know, with her... 239 00:13:25,204 --> 00:13:29,573 but, uh, it seemed that we could use other colors... 240 00:13:29,642 --> 00:13:34,409 as well as that particular color of, you know, your-your warm feelings toward her. 241 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,645 Let's - Let's also have the areas where you're aggressively, you know, related toward her. 242 00:13:39,718 --> 00:13:43,518 Do you know what I mean? Um, there - there are - there are... 243 00:13:44,857 --> 00:13:48,884 points in the dialogue where she's actually, you know, sniffing your balls... 244 00:13:48,961 --> 00:13:52,988 and, uh - and you've gotta stand up for your own, you know, rights in relation to her. 245 00:13:53,065 --> 00:13:56,398 And I didn't feel that there was enough, you know, muscle there, enough strength. 246 00:13:56,468 --> 00:13:58,402 - You know what I mean? - Yeah. 247 00:13:58,470 --> 00:14:00,404 So let's - let's, uh - 248 00:14:00,472 --> 00:14:03,236 Let's- Let's run it down and see if we can, uh... 249 00:14:03,309 --> 00:14:06,210 get some more of those colors in as well as the other thing... 250 00:14:06,278 --> 00:14:08,712 which was beautiful, Frank, that you got before. 251 00:14:08,781 --> 00:14:12,615 Okay? I mean, l- I don't mean to, you know, throw that away at all. No. 252 00:14:12,685 --> 00:14:16,951 I mean, we'll keep that. But add to that these other colors. Okay? 253 00:14:17,022 --> 00:14:19,422 All right. Let's try it from - 254 00:14:19,491 --> 00:14:24,326 Uh, you can't go outside of the, uh - the shaded area. 255 00:14:24,396 --> 00:14:27,456 [Greaves] Okay. Okay. Fine. Let's go. 256 00:14:29,235 --> 00:14:31,226 Action. 257 00:14:32,805 --> 00:14:35,569 Now I know why you don't want to have any children... 258 00:14:35,641 --> 00:14:39,099 despite the talk about "wait until we're ready." 259 00:14:40,980 --> 00:14:43,847 Oh, wow, you really had me fooled, Freddie... 260 00:14:44,850 --> 00:14:47,580 to even think that you could change. 261 00:14:47,653 --> 00:14:49,644 I want you to believe in me. 262 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:52,418 Do you understand that? 263 00:14:52,491 --> 00:14:56,325 You've killed one of my babies right after another... 264 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:58,420 and you want me to believe in you? 265 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:03,759 Don't you think that I want to have children too? 266 00:15:03,836 --> 00:15:08,068 You've ruined my health because you're sick, but I will not let you destroy me. 267 00:15:08,140 --> 00:15:10,131 [Airplane Passing Overhead] 268 00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:17,807 The way we've been making love lately- 269 00:15:19,551 --> 00:15:21,610 We'll never have any children like that, Freddie. 270 00:15:21,687 --> 00:15:25,179 The whole thing is so unnatural. 271 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:28,124 - Alice - - Because every time you make love to me... 272 00:15:28,193 --> 00:15:30,661 I feel as though I've been raped. 273 00:15:32,564 --> 00:15:36,728 - [Sighs]Jesus Christ almighty. - I don't know who wouldn't be frigid... 274 00:15:36,802 --> 00:15:40,033 the way you come on like some Nazi storm trooper. 275 00:15:40,105 --> 00:15:42,096 [Sighs] 276 00:15:42,174 --> 00:15:46,406 [Airplane Passing Overhead] 277 00:15:46,478 --> 00:15:49,811 [Greaves] All right. Look, uh, Frank, what I'm trying to get you to do- 278 00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:53,249 It's horrible. Oh, my God. It's so horrible! 279 00:15:53,319 --> 00:15:56,186 - No. Take it easy. Take it easy. - Jesus Christ. 280 00:15:56,255 --> 00:15:58,416 [Henderson] Well, the point in all this, I think... 281 00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:01,823 is the fact that maybe something else should be done than what is being done. 282 00:16:01,894 --> 00:16:04,488 [Jonathan] Don't you see? None of this is designed to- 283 00:16:04,563 --> 00:16:07,123 to denigrate any aspect of which this film is- 284 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:10,225 'Cause we don't have the right to do that, man. It's this guy's film. 285 00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:14,329 Bill has made us actors in the film by including us in the filming. 286 00:16:14,406 --> 00:16:16,340 - Is that why you consider- - Exactly. 287 00:16:16,408 --> 00:16:20,469 - [Jonathan] Exactly. - But we are acting without him in control. 288 00:16:20,546 --> 00:16:23,515 - [Bob] That's true. - [Henderson] Why, for example, should there not be- 289 00:16:23,582 --> 00:16:26,244 [Terry] 'Cause there's some doubt as to what this all-he's putting on. 290 00:16:26,318 --> 00:16:28,252 [Henderson] A better-better actors? 291 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,084 [Woman] If they were better, then I think that would be bad then. 292 00:16:31,156 --> 00:16:35,149 - [Jonathan] No, but it doesn't make any difference. - I'm trying to take his objection and... 293 00:16:35,227 --> 00:16:37,525 if it is invalid, show why. 294 00:16:37,596 --> 00:16:41,692 I mean, it - starting from this point - starting from this standpoint you could say... 295 00:16:41,767 --> 00:16:44,429 "Let's get a better script. Let's improve the script for tomorrow. 296 00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:46,698 - Let's get some better actors." - [Jonathan] Right. 297 00:16:46,772 --> 00:16:50,264 - "Let's get some really socko actors." - [Bob] But we realize that it doesn't matter. 298 00:16:50,342 --> 00:16:54,642 - All right. Now, why doesn't it matter? - [Jonathan] It doesn't matter because in life- 299 00:16:54,713 --> 00:16:58,615 - Right. - In life, some of us are good actors, and some of us are bad actors. 300 00:16:58,684 --> 00:17:01,346 Some-Some of us, you know- 301 00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:03,911 - Some women can- can say- - [Man] Is life acting then? 302 00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:07,186 - [Jonathan] Well, life is a-life for most people- - [Man] Freddie- Freddie- 303 00:17:07,259 --> 00:17:10,751 - [Bob] Wait a second. - Life for most people is the attempt... 304 00:17:10,829 --> 00:17:13,821 - to give with whatever qualities they have - - [Bell Rings] 305 00:17:13,899 --> 00:17:16,493 Real meaning to, um - 306 00:17:16,568 --> 00:17:20,732 to - to thoughts and lines that they may not really understand. 307 00:17:20,806 --> 00:17:23,070 When a guy says "You're cutting my balls off"... 308 00:17:23,142 --> 00:17:25,337 he can't possibly be saying what he really thinks. 309 00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:28,141 It's not in him to say what he really thinks. He is acting. 310 00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:32,673 What could be more elemental than saying, "Dear, you are cutting my balls"? 311 00:17:32,751 --> 00:17:36,187 [Jonathan] Because everybody says it in different believable-in different ways ofbelievability. 312 00:17:36,255 --> 00:17:38,280 But when you cut it down to this nitty-gritty... 313 00:17:38,357 --> 00:17:40,985 of"You are cutting my balls," you can't get it down much further. 314 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,460 - [Greaves] Quiet, please. - [Man] Quiet. 315 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:47,494 - [Greaves] Action. - From where? 316 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:51,332 Uh, take it from the top. Uh, take it from the top. 317 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:57,832 Alice. 318 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,512 No. 319 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:04,344 - Alice, wait a minute. - Uh, let's-let's- Hold that. 320 00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:09,581 Uh, you've changed your positions. Let's take it around this way, okay? 321 00:18:09,655 --> 00:18:13,352 You were standing here. Okay. Fine. 322 00:18:13,425 --> 00:18:15,552 All right. Now, we're not moving. Is that it? 323 00:18:15,627 --> 00:18:17,618 No. Unfortunately. 324 00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:21,489 [Freddie] Alice. 325 00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:23,558 [Sighs] No. 326 00:18:27,172 --> 00:18:29,868 [Chattering] 327 00:18:31,877 --> 00:18:33,868 Oh, wow. Alice, what's the matter? 328 00:18:36,648 --> 00:18:40,379 You know perfectly well what is the matter, Freddie. 329 00:18:41,453 --> 00:18:44,445 [Mumbles] Uh - 330 00:18:46,525 --> 00:18:49,358 Come on, sport. 331 00:18:49,428 --> 00:18:53,694 - Just how stupid do you think I am, Freddie? - [Airplane Passing Overhead] 332 00:18:53,765 --> 00:18:57,201 You know, I don't have to stand here and listen to this. 333 00:18:58,403 --> 00:19:01,270 You don't even have the courtesy to tell me what's going on. 334 00:19:01,340 --> 00:19:03,274 [Laughter] 335 00:19:03,342 --> 00:19:06,641 [Greaves] Listen. For Christ's sake, would you give us a break? 336 00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:12,947 - I'm a woman, Freddie. - [Horn Honks] 337 00:19:13,018 --> 00:19:15,009 [Jonathan] So what difference does it make? 338 00:19:15,087 --> 00:19:18,079 [Larner] It makes an enormous amount of difference because in one thing... 339 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:21,957 you're talking about, uh, an irreducible truth... 340 00:19:22,027 --> 00:19:26,259 and in another instance you might be talking about some sort of fantasy, uh, whereby- 341 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:28,356 What's an irreducible truth? 342 00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:30,367 Uh, "You're cutting my balls" or whatever. 343 00:19:30,435 --> 00:19:32,733 Why? Do people really have to say that? 344 00:19:32,804 --> 00:19:36,069 - Is it necessary to say that? - Yes. They have to say that. 345 00:19:36,141 --> 00:19:39,235 - 'Cause once - - But is it necessary that they have to feel that way? 346 00:19:39,311 --> 00:19:41,438 I mean, why is it an irreducible truth? 347 00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:43,674 [Jonathan] But don't you see? The man says- 348 00:19:43,749 --> 00:19:45,740 The man says this to his wife. 349 00:19:45,817 --> 00:19:49,844 That's part of his role too, you know. As long as he can say this to his wife. 350 00:19:49,922 --> 00:19:53,119 She won't understand what the hell he's saying. She'll hear, "You cut my balls." 351 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,491 Then she gives out with the response that was written into her part in life. 352 00:19:56,562 --> 00:20:00,726 She says, "Well, maybe that's because you're just a bad," you know, this. 353 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:02,994 "Maybe that's just because you're an ineffectual little -" 354 00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:05,093 - [Larner] The fact that you're saying that- - See? 355 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:07,968 - It seems to me that you're playing a part in saying that. - Oh. 356 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,373 You're falling into a trap there that the- 357 00:20:11,443 --> 00:20:15,777 [Jonathan] Oh, you mean that would not be the response of- of any given woman... 358 00:20:15,847 --> 00:20:18,315 to that accusation by any given man? 359 00:20:18,383 --> 00:20:23,480 What else would she say? Would she say, "Yes. You know, you're right. I love to do it." 360 00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:25,546 I did it to my first three husbands too. 361 00:20:25,624 --> 00:20:28,058 If roles - If roles are to be played... 362 00:20:28,126 --> 00:20:31,152 and if life is - is role-playing... 363 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,323 uh, which is, of course, the whole big bag - 364 00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:37,300 you know, the Moreno people can explain more knowledgeably than any of us. 365 00:20:37,369 --> 00:20:39,633 - [Bell Rings] - Um - 366 00:20:39,705 --> 00:20:43,471 This is precisely the question I was asking. What -What then - 367 00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:45,601 not to get this off too far- 368 00:20:45,677 --> 00:20:49,841 - What then is the difference between an actor playing a role - - [Bell Rings] 369 00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:54,375 And playing an imposed role - a role that's imposed from without - 370 00:20:54,453 --> 00:20:56,444 and a person who is a nonactor- 371 00:20:56,521 --> 00:21:00,355 That is to say a person who's not employed as an actor- or not asked to do something... 372 00:21:00,425 --> 00:21:02,620 for a camera or something like that- 373 00:21:02,694 --> 00:21:05,356 playing a role which he thinks is imposed on him... 374 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:08,558 from whatever psychological need he might have at this moment. 375 00:21:08,634 --> 00:21:10,864 Um - 376 00:21:10,936 --> 00:21:13,370 All right. So - 377 00:21:13,438 --> 00:21:17,306 What we're doing now - We're gonna do another psychodrama. 378 00:21:17,376 --> 00:21:20,311 And that psychodrama's gonna be what exactly? 379 00:21:20,379 --> 00:21:22,370 [Woman] Freddie confronting Freddie. 380 00:21:22,447 --> 00:21:24,381 - The strong Freddie - - [Frank] Passive and - 381 00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:27,009 - confronting the weak Freddie. - [Frank] Yeah. Right. Right. 382 00:21:27,085 --> 00:21:30,316 - The strong Freddie confronting the weak Freddie. - Confronting the weak Freddie. 383 00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:34,485 See, the - the important thing is, uh, as I said, before you start... 384 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:38,620 is masculinity, uh, and virility... 385 00:21:38,697 --> 00:21:43,930 as opposed to, uh, you know, raw aggression and raw hostility. 386 00:21:44,002 --> 00:21:46,027 - Do you know what I mean, Frank? - Yes, I do. 387 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:49,699 The way you take -The way you are in full command of the situation... 388 00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:53,006 it's no longer necessary for you to be, you know, aggressive. 389 00:21:53,078 --> 00:21:55,012 - Right. - You know, in relation to it. 390 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,014 - Okay. - Now, uh... 391 00:21:57,082 --> 00:21:59,277 we should be, I think, visually opposite each other... 392 00:21:59,351 --> 00:22:03,253 - but do you want us down or up or- - [Greaves] Well, uh, you could go down there... 393 00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,756 or if you- Yeah. 394 00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:16,025 Sy, you'll have to get out of the way, my dear man. 395 00:22:16,101 --> 00:22:19,127 [Terry] He's out there intentionally. I've got to have him in the shot. 396 00:22:19,204 --> 00:22:21,172 [Greaves] Well, it's all right. 397 00:22:22,174 --> 00:22:24,404 - [Vehicle Passing] - [Freddie] Well, why don't you- 398 00:22:24,476 --> 00:22:27,707 Why don't you walk over to that wall over there andjump off? 399 00:22:28,747 --> 00:22:32,706 - I haven't got the strength. - Oh, bullshit. Try. Want me to help you? 400 00:22:37,289 --> 00:22:39,314 You want to fight me? Let's fight. 401 00:22:41,493 --> 00:22:43,984 - Let's fight. - What do you want to do? Fight? 402 00:22:44,062 --> 00:22:46,496 - Yeah. - You want to wrestle? 403 00:22:46,565 --> 00:22:48,556 Let's fight. 404 00:22:48,633 --> 00:22:50,931 [Chuckles] 405 00:22:51,002 --> 00:22:52,993 If you're so strong, fight. 406 00:22:54,139 --> 00:22:56,937 - [Chuckles] - What are you laughing at? 407 00:22:57,008 --> 00:23:01,206 I'm laughing at you. You're struggling to get free, and you can't get free. 408 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:04,112 You want to move, and you can't move. 409 00:23:07,486 --> 00:23:10,580 I feel like I'm taking unfair advantage of you 'cause you're off-balance. 410 00:23:10,655 --> 00:23:12,646 It's gonna be so easy. Look. 411 00:23:12,724 --> 00:23:14,715 [Greaves] Not that way. 412 00:23:15,927 --> 00:23:17,952 Which fucking way? 413 00:23:18,029 --> 00:23:20,020 [Chuckles] Jesus Chri - 414 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:38,383 - I'll win. - [Laughs] 415 00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:41,078 - I'll win. - Oh, yeah? 416 00:23:50,695 --> 00:23:52,720 You don't fight very hard, do ya? 417 00:23:52,798 --> 00:23:54,789 Fight harder. 418 00:23:56,301 --> 00:23:58,292 Fight harder. 419 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:01,533 Fight harder. Go on. Fight harder. Fight harder. Go on. 420 00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,074 Go ahead. Go ahead. 421 00:24:04,142 --> 00:24:07,009 [Laughs] Oh, come on. 422 00:24:07,078 --> 00:24:09,069 Come on. 423 00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:17,581 - If you really live - - Shh. 424 00:24:17,656 --> 00:24:19,749 You'll go - [Muffled] 425 00:24:19,825 --> 00:24:22,089 - And do something with your- - You what? 426 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,186 If you really live, you'll go get Alice and do something with her. 427 00:24:25,263 --> 00:24:27,731 Otherwise I live. Otherwise I win. 428 00:24:31,169 --> 00:24:35,105 - No. Shut up. - You can fight me a million times, and I'll always win. 429 00:24:35,173 --> 00:24:37,539 - Shut up. Shut up. - I'll always win. 430 00:24:37,609 --> 00:24:42,273 Look how strong I am. You just -You just play with me. You don't fight. You never kill me. 431 00:24:44,416 --> 00:24:46,475 You think you do, but you don't. 432 00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:53,055 You think you've won, right? 433 00:24:53,124 --> 00:24:55,115 Don't you? 434 00:24:57,262 --> 00:24:59,822 [Greaves] Cut. 435 00:25:00,532 --> 00:25:03,524 - [Greaves] Let's, uh- - [Jonathan] Gotta slate these. 436 00:25:03,602 --> 00:25:07,038 [Greaves] Let's try and, uh- Let's- 437 00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:10,939 Marcia, you want to get up? Here. Watch out for your transmitter. 438 00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:13,273 - Oh. Okay. Um - - [Chattering] 439 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:15,370 [Terry] Someone give me another sync start. 440 00:25:15,447 --> 00:25:17,813 Marcia was working very intimately, and she was contacting - 441 00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:22,081 - [Terry] Second start. - She hit my- She hit dead on the thing that I was working on. 442 00:25:22,153 --> 00:25:24,144 It was like an arrow went - [Clicks Tongue] 443 00:25:24,222 --> 00:25:26,656 You know, it was like - And that - 444 00:25:26,725 --> 00:25:31,025 I think having, um, explored... 445 00:25:31,096 --> 00:25:33,656 this whole thing in depth... 446 00:25:33,732 --> 00:25:38,032 uh, through the agency of psychodrama... 447 00:25:38,103 --> 00:25:41,834 uh, it would be very interesting now to return to the scene. 448 00:25:41,907 --> 00:25:44,967 I was talking to Marcia about this. Return to the scene... 449 00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:48,570 uh, and, uh, see what new... 450 00:25:48,647 --> 00:25:54,586 uh, qualitative values have been added to your characterizations... 451 00:25:54,653 --> 00:25:58,714 as a result of the removal of certain blocks... 452 00:25:58,790 --> 00:26:02,191 and the - the increase of certain, uh... 453 00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:05,627 bases of empathy that you now have for each other. 454 00:26:05,697 --> 00:26:08,188 Uh, I was wondering whether or not... 455 00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:13,101 uh, the - the conflict of the two characters would be... 456 00:26:13,171 --> 00:26:15,162 uh, more interestingly- 457 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,174 - Different dimensions. - Yeah. 458 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:20,109 Illuminated. Do you know what I mean? So, what we're doing now... 459 00:26:20,178 --> 00:26:23,306 - is we're going from - - [Frank] Improvisation to the scene. 460 00:26:23,381 --> 00:26:25,508 Improvisation to the scene. 461 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:28,712 Well, uh, we're gonna start on the scene, and then we're gonna use- 462 00:26:28,787 --> 00:26:33,451 We're gonna go from psychodrama- from reality to the reality of the scene, you see? 463 00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:36,255 - Right. - And see how and if... 464 00:26:36,328 --> 00:26:38,489 they can in fact, you know, feed each other. 465 00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:40,554 You know what I mean? 466 00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:43,726 - [Terry] Slate. Slate. - [Jonathan] Slate for camera "B." 467 00:26:44,869 --> 00:26:47,269 - [Larner] Tail slate. - Slate on this one here. 468 00:26:47,339 --> 00:26:51,639 [All Talking At Once] 469 00:26:55,347 --> 00:26:57,315 No. This -This is proceeding very well. 470 00:26:57,382 --> 00:26:59,509 Look. This is your first, you know, go on this. 471 00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:01,677 And let's not have any, uh, neuroticism. 472 00:27:01,753 --> 00:27:05,780 This was -was very, very, very effective. You know, very effective. 473 00:27:05,857 --> 00:27:07,848 Uh, it looks beautiful seeing you come down. 474 00:27:07,926 --> 00:27:11,225 I mean, it's just fantastic. And when you come down there, you had moments... 475 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:14,356 you know, of emotional reality, you know, going for yourself. 476 00:27:14,432 --> 00:27:17,731 And the important thing is not to panic. There's no reason to panic at all. 477 00:27:17,802 --> 00:27:21,203 I mean, just take your time and, you know, feel your way through it. 478 00:27:21,272 --> 00:27:24,730 We've got all the time in the world. You know, if you want to wait... 479 00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:28,472 an extra two or three seconds and, you know, organize your faculties - 480 00:27:28,546 --> 00:27:31,208 - Right. - Your emotional motors and various other things... 481 00:27:31,282 --> 00:27:34,615 take that time, you know, because we -we can look at - 482 00:27:34,686 --> 00:27:37,177 Both of you are very attractive. We can look at you... 483 00:27:37,255 --> 00:27:39,223 you know, while you - while you're thinking... 484 00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:42,691 while you try and arrive at some kind of reality for yourself. 485 00:27:42,761 --> 00:27:44,729 - What? - Yeah. I felt we rushed it and, like - 486 00:27:44,796 --> 00:27:47,424 - This all feels so - - Yeah. All right. All right. I mean - 487 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:50,366 There's no need for that. There's no need for rushing at all. 488 00:27:50,435 --> 00:27:53,370 I mean, take your time. Okay? 489 00:27:53,438 --> 00:27:56,635 - Very good. - All right? Let's do it another-Take two. 490 00:27:56,708 --> 00:27:59,006 Take two. Take two of take two. 491 00:27:59,077 --> 00:28:02,478 You want to check that and see where you're going again? 'Cause we went off the - 492 00:28:02,547 --> 00:28:04,811 - [Chattering] - Let's just check the script. 493 00:28:04,883 --> 00:28:07,215 Fine. Where's the script? Can I have the script, Barbara? 494 00:28:07,285 --> 00:28:09,219 - [Jonathan] Six. - Six. 495 00:28:09,287 --> 00:28:12,848 All right. Here we go. All right. Stand by. 496 00:28:12,924 --> 00:28:16,360 Quiet, please. All right. Action. 497 00:28:17,429 --> 00:28:19,454 Action. 498 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:21,465 - [Freddie] Hey, Alice. - No. 499 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:23,125 - Come on, Alice. - No. 500 00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:26,068 Come on, sport. Just wait a minute. Come here. 501 00:28:26,137 --> 00:28:29,800 What the hell's the matter with you? For Christ's sake, tell me what the matter is. 502 00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:31,933 Come here. 503 00:28:32,010 --> 00:28:34,706 I don't understand what's going on. Come here. 504 00:28:34,779 --> 00:28:37,270 Freddie, get away from me. Please. 505 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:42,145 - Just how stupid do you think I am? - Come on. Cut out the double-talk. 506 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:44,211 Come on! 507 00:28:46,324 --> 00:28:48,315 [Panting] 508 00:28:50,862 --> 00:28:53,763 Freddie, just how stupid do you think I am? 509 00:28:57,836 --> 00:29:00,669 [Sighs] I don't know what you're talking about. 510 00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:03,640 You know perfectly well what I'm talking about. 511 00:29:04,676 --> 00:29:06,803 Well, go ahead. Tell me. 512 00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:10,707 Lookit. I'm not a mind reader. 513 00:29:10,782 --> 00:29:14,912 [Sighs] Freddie, I wish I were a mind reader. 514 00:29:14,986 --> 00:29:20,652 Perhaps I could... tell what's going on in that screwy little mind of yours. 515 00:29:20,725 --> 00:29:25,094 What makes you think that everyone is so stupid and you're so smart? 516 00:29:34,005 --> 00:29:37,031 - You're talking in circles, Alice. - Am I really, Freddie? 517 00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:42,512 Just how much of a phony are you anyway? 518 00:29:45,683 --> 00:29:47,674 Don't touch me. 519 00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:57,117 Please tell me what's going on. 520 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:03,066 Freddie... 521 00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:07,195 why don't you just get out of my life permanently. 522 00:30:07,272 --> 00:30:09,206 Now quit it. Stop acting. 523 00:30:09,274 --> 00:30:11,265 Don't touch me. 524 00:30:23,421 --> 00:30:26,049 Freddie, get your hands off me. Please. 525 00:30:26,124 --> 00:30:29,321 And don't ever touch me again. 526 00:30:29,394 --> 00:30:31,954 - Ever. - All right. What have I done? 527 00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:34,555 You know perfectly well. 528 00:30:34,632 --> 00:30:37,533 I saw him, and I saw you - 529 00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:40,571 both of you - at the altar, eyeing each other. 530 00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:46,300 Him. 531 00:30:46,377 --> 00:30:50,575 Yes. Him. Him. That crazy little faggot that half the church knows about. 532 00:30:50,648 --> 00:30:52,639 What are you? Some kind of a nut? 533 00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:56,053 Don't play naive with me, Freddie. 534 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,146 I'm not playing naive. What do you think you saw? 535 00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:04,685 I've put up with all your escapades, and I'm going to put an end to it. 536 00:31:04,762 --> 00:31:08,459 - You've just about strained my patience on that score, man. - I don't know what you thought you saw... 537 00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:10,524 but you didn't see anything this morning. 538 00:31:11,603 --> 00:31:14,094 You mean I didn't see both of you eyeing each other? 539 00:31:14,172 --> 00:31:17,835 That kid smiled at me, and I smiled back. What do you want to do? 540 00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:21,345 - Nail me to the cross for that? - A cross is too good for you, Freddie. 541 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,614 Wow. 542 00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:27,584 [Man] Slate. 543 00:31:29,787 --> 00:31:32,813 - [Greaves] Cut. - [Man] Slate. 544 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,587 - [Man] Slate. Uh - - Slate. 545 00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:38,026 - [Greaves] Stop a moment. - [Bob] Seven. 546 00:31:38,096 --> 00:31:40,826 - [Jonathan] Or is it eight? - [Greaves] The work will go on. 547 00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:42,890 [Bob] Terry's still rolling. 548 00:31:42,967 --> 00:31:44,935 [Greaves] All right. Let's go on. 549 00:31:45,003 --> 00:31:47,938 - [Woman] Rolling. Speed. - [Chattering] 550 00:31:48,006 --> 00:31:52,340 - [Terry] All right. Go ahead. - [Woman] Camera roll 4X. 551 00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:54,537 Would you turn to her and just, you know - 552 00:31:54,612 --> 00:31:58,139 - If somebody out there in the audience is now looking at you, it does- - Right. 553 00:31:58,216 --> 00:32:00,150 And you now say something. 554 00:32:00,218 --> 00:32:02,152 - [Bob] Okay. - [Larner] Listen. L- 555 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:04,654 - [Jonathan] Need to sign this as 4X? - [Larner] We got that. 556 00:32:04,722 --> 00:32:06,212 [Jonathan] Then we're on. 557 00:32:06,291 --> 00:32:10,193 This morning he said- You know how he often says these things with his tongue in his cheek? 558 00:32:10,261 --> 00:32:13,094 - He said, "Good morning. Who am I?" You see? - Mm-hmm. 559 00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:17,032 - [Bob] Right. - That's really very interesting, and I don't judge it or anything like that. 560 00:32:17,101 --> 00:32:20,332 I just say it's very interesting, because whatever a man is, is extremely interesting. 561 00:32:20,405 --> 00:32:25,172 And it occurred to me the other day that in this case - right here - 562 00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:28,007 Bill is a man with a medium... 563 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,047 but who lacks an identity. 564 00:32:30,114 --> 00:32:32,674 We are people with identities. At least right now. 565 00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:34,684 In relation to this thing. But without a medium. 566 00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:38,188 - [Terry] You're seizing the medium. - We are seizing the medium, like they seized Channel 13. 567 00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:40,850 - [Woman] That's a rape. - It isn't a rape. It's a political - 568 00:32:40,925 --> 00:32:42,859 - It's a - - [Woman] Coup. 569 00:32:42,927 --> 00:32:45,794 It's a coup. It's an artistic - It's not a coup. We're giving it back. 570 00:32:45,863 --> 00:32:48,696 - [Bob] We're giving it back to him. - We're giving it back. That's right. 571 00:32:48,766 --> 00:32:51,564 It would only be rape if we took this footage to the laboratory... 572 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:54,662 and developed it ourselves and put out a film, you know. 573 00:32:54,739 --> 00:32:58,300 - [Terry] Ran it back to back. - [Bob] Right. Ran it back to back without Bill's consent. 574 00:32:58,376 --> 00:33:02,278 We are merely liberating the medium to impose our own identities on film. 575 00:33:02,347 --> 00:33:04,281 Because film is the thing. Talk's nothin'. 576 00:33:04,349 --> 00:33:08,649 Now, the people - the people out there in the audience, you know - 577 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,713 This is without, you know - I mean, they don't know -This never happened before. 578 00:33:12,790 --> 00:33:16,191 I mean, this is happening - Not only is it happening to us at this moment... 579 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,923 but every time it gets played in the theater it's gonna happen to them. 580 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:24,526 - You know? - You're saying, like, the method of this film reflects the mechanics of life. 581 00:33:24,602 --> 00:33:27,833 - That's right. Exactly. - [Jonathan] And therefore this is something other than a film... 582 00:33:27,905 --> 00:33:32,865 because a film traditionally exists where a guy says, "I'm going to make a film about- " 583 00:33:32,944 --> 00:33:36,038 And he does it. But here's a film that exists as it exists. 584 00:33:36,114 --> 00:33:38,309 When it's shown - if it's ever made and shown - 585 00:33:38,383 --> 00:33:43,548 it will - it will take its final form precisely because an indeterminate action took place in it... 586 00:33:43,621 --> 00:33:46,215 and altered it and changed it and made it something - 587 00:33:46,290 --> 00:33:49,225 [Bob] Yeah. Something else happened. I have something I want to say. 588 00:33:49,293 --> 00:33:52,194 The thing is - The thing is it's - it's - 589 00:33:52,263 --> 00:33:54,663 We find ourselves in a very, very strange situation. 590 00:33:54,732 --> 00:33:57,929 - You know? And -And - - [Terry] Kill the air-conditioner. 591 00:33:58,002 --> 00:34:00,493 It's a question of precedent. You know. 592 00:34:00,571 --> 00:34:04,063 Nobody who got into the, you know - 593 00:34:04,142 --> 00:34:06,269 onto the crew here had any idea. 594 00:34:06,344 --> 00:34:10,781 We were put into a completely unprecedented situation. 595 00:34:10,848 --> 00:34:14,375 I don't think anybody has ever made a film before... 596 00:34:14,452 --> 00:34:17,580 - where the crew decided to do this. - [Man] Yeah. 597 00:34:17,655 --> 00:34:20,385 And we didn't really even decide. It just happened that way. 598 00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:23,427 And I don't think this has ever happened before. You know? 599 00:34:23,494 --> 00:34:25,689 It's completely without precedent. 600 00:34:25,763 --> 00:34:29,665 And the thing is that it's - that - that - 601 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:33,670 that most people consider that - that life is - 602 00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:37,105 they live their lives filled with precedents, you know? 603 00:34:37,175 --> 00:34:39,609 That every situation - Like those lines. You know? 604 00:34:39,677 --> 00:34:41,668 They do those lines, and if they- 605 00:34:41,746 --> 00:34:44,943 They've done those lines, you know, 10 times in one form or another. 606 00:34:45,016 --> 00:34:47,109 Fifty times. You know, over and over and over. 607 00:34:47,185 --> 00:34:50,018 There's an infinite number of precedents for that situation. 608 00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:52,215 This situation has no precedent. 609 00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:57,660 And the thing that I'm discovering, it seems, is that this is the way that life really works. 610 00:34:57,728 --> 00:35:00,390 Without precedent. That really every situation is without precedent. 611 00:35:00,465 --> 00:35:02,990 - [Terry] Or indeterminate. Yes. - Absolutely indeterminate. 612 00:35:03,067 --> 00:35:07,504 And here we are in this situation of total indeterminacy where we're uncertain. 613 00:35:07,572 --> 00:35:10,234 - Bill is uncertain. Bill can't tell you. - [Jonathan] Yes. I think- 614 00:35:10,308 --> 00:35:12,776 [Greaves] Ladies and gentlemen, I hate to interrupt... 615 00:35:12,844 --> 00:35:16,837 this very scintillating discussion, but, uh... 616 00:35:16,914 --> 00:35:19,348 either there is a God or there isn't. 617 00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:22,580 - [Chattering] - But whatever. But there are some clouds coming in this direction. 618 00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:25,087 We'd better get the hell out of here. Okay? Shall we? 619 00:35:25,156 --> 00:35:27,386 - What are we doing? - We're wrapping up. 620 00:35:27,458 --> 00:35:29,619 - [Bob] That's it? - Yeah. We're wrapping up. 621 00:35:29,694 --> 00:35:32,162 [Man] Oh, nice. Wonderful. 622 00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:34,164 - [Greaves] It's gonna rain. - [Chattering] 623 00:35:34,232 --> 00:35:36,632 - [Larner] Let's go. Grab those machines. - [Shouts] 624 00:35:36,701 --> 00:35:39,101 - It's gonna rain. - Fuck the rain. 625 00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:43,163 Fuck the rain? It's gonna rain. We can't - The equipment won't function, man. 626 00:35:43,241 --> 00:35:46,335 - [Thunder Rumbling] - [Greaves] What do you think, Bob? Should we, uh- 627 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:49,811 Should we close it up? Do you think it's gonna rain? I think it's gonna rain. 628 00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:54,784 - [Man] I think it's gonna rain bad. - [Terry] Let's get your cases on the truck. There's a big storm coming up quick. 629 00:35:54,852 --> 00:35:56,843 [Chattering] 630 00:35:58,589 --> 00:36:02,719 [Terry] Quick. Quick, quick. Arriflex away. Batches away. We'll be struck by lightning. 631 00:36:02,793 --> 00:36:04,727 - [Greaves] Okay? - [Frank] Yeah. Yeah. 632 00:36:04,795 --> 00:36:07,821 - [No Audible Dialogue] - [Frank] I want you to know that I want to do it. 633 00:36:07,899 --> 00:36:10,527 [Greaves] Yes. I know. I know. 634 00:36:10,601 --> 00:36:14,332 [Thunder Rumbles] 635 00:36:14,405 --> 00:36:16,600 Hmm? 636 00:36:16,674 --> 00:36:18,665 What? 637 00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:22,441 Well, what the hell, man? 638 00:36:22,513 --> 00:36:25,482 - That's the whole fallacy of the movies. - Come on. Let's go. 639 00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:27,916 - You move. - [Terry] No. I'm shooting. 640 00:36:27,985 --> 00:36:30,783 - Move. You're gonna get wet. - I don't care.! I want to shoot.! 641 00:36:30,855 --> 00:36:33,756 - Come on. - [Woman] Shoot the shit, man. 642 00:36:33,824 --> 00:36:35,883 - Huh? - [Terry] There's nothing. 643 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,088 - I won't get that sort oflightning. I need a- - [Thunder Rumbles] 644 00:36:39,163 --> 00:36:41,256 Just bring me the tripod. Would you look over here? 645 00:36:41,332 --> 00:36:44,392 - [Bob] Here's the tripod. Where do you want it? - Just dump it here. 646 00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:50,139 - [Audrey] Let's see. - [Jonathan] This is a wonderful way to end the role, isn't it? It's great. 647 00:36:50,408 --> 00:36:53,275 [Greaves Muttering] Excuse me. 648 00:36:53,344 --> 00:36:55,676 [Terry] Oh, no, just do it once. Just once. 649 00:36:55,746 --> 00:36:58,579 - Hold it. Fine. Thank you. - You're welcome. 650 00:37:01,118 --> 00:37:05,111 [Sustained Tone, Pitch Rising] 651 00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:14,821 [Tone Pitch Continues Rising] 652 00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:23,571 - [Tone Fades] - [Applause] 653 00:37:25,009 --> 00:37:28,172 [Man Laughing] 654 00:37:31,315 --> 00:37:33,681 [Laughing Continues] 655 00:37:35,386 --> 00:37:39,413 Bill Greaves and Steve Buscemi, come back up, please. 656 00:37:39,490 --> 00:37:41,481 [Applause] 657 00:37:48,532 --> 00:37:51,968 I, uh, would like to say that, uh, this - 658 00:37:52,036 --> 00:37:54,300 It's just wonderful to, uh... 659 00:37:54,372 --> 00:37:57,136 have the film, uh, accepted... 660 00:37:57,208 --> 00:38:00,871 finally after 30 years of waiting. 661 00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:05,712 I don't know. Is there any, uh - Are there any questions? Any, uh -Any? 662 00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:08,719 No questions? Yes. 663 00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:14,349 What was the reaction of the crew when you showed them the final - the final cut? 664 00:38:14,425 --> 00:38:19,294 Well, I - I didn't show them the final cut right away. 665 00:38:19,363 --> 00:38:23,060 - [Audience Chuckles] - Uh, but, uh, I think there was a - 666 00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:28,538 Well, let's, uh, have, uh, Jonathan - What was your reaction to - 667 00:38:28,606 --> 00:38:32,599 Last time I saw this was, uh, about eight years ago. 668 00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,977 - And I'm finally detached enough from it - - [Audience Laughs] 669 00:38:37,048 --> 00:38:39,983 Um, to see it just as a work... 670 00:38:40,051 --> 00:38:42,611 without, um, judging myself. 671 00:38:42,687 --> 00:38:46,145 Uh, and so I had a - I had a new experience here really. 672 00:38:46,223 --> 00:38:48,350 And, uh... 673 00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:52,829 I mean, I remembered these emotions really well, Bill. 674 00:38:52,897 --> 00:38:58,767 Um, I do, you know. I remember the absolutely authentic frustration with you. 675 00:39:00,971 --> 00:39:04,463 Um, it's just a great pleasure to watch it... 676 00:39:04,542 --> 00:39:06,635 and to watch this, um - 677 00:39:06,711 --> 00:39:09,271 and to watch this - this conspiracy... 678 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:12,248 uh, in which you're implicated too, you know. 679 00:39:12,316 --> 00:39:18,255 And, um -And to just watch this - this odd conspiracy, um... 680 00:39:18,322 --> 00:39:21,519 of- of- of images and - and - 681 00:39:21,592 --> 00:39:25,892 Just to watch it occur and to see the brilliant way in which you, um, took it... 682 00:39:25,963 --> 00:39:28,295 and made it into a work of, I think, art. 683 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:33,360 And, um -And I remember, um, the camaraderie... 684 00:39:33,437 --> 00:39:35,667 um, and the skillful - 685 00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:39,904 the skillful camaraderie that we had as a crew... 686 00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:44,437 that - that gave us that - that friendly trust in one another... 687 00:39:44,515 --> 00:39:47,416 to be able to - to deal with these things. 688 00:39:47,485 --> 00:39:50,682 'Cause those were those times, you know. We "academized" - 689 00:39:50,755 --> 00:39:54,452 We "academized" this film as well as did this film, you know. 690 00:39:54,525 --> 00:39:57,085 - And so we were all in our own way academic. - Mm-hmm. 691 00:39:57,161 --> 00:39:59,959 And that was a very nice thing about those times, I think. 692 00:40:00,030 --> 00:40:04,262 It's just a real pleasure for me. I don't know what else to say. I'm so glad these people are here. 693 00:40:04,335 --> 00:40:07,930 Any other questions? [Laughing] 694 00:40:08,005 --> 00:40:09,939 [Woman] When you saw them- 695 00:40:10,007 --> 00:40:12,407 When you saw your crew talking about you like that- 696 00:40:12,476 --> 00:40:16,810 Very few directors are gonna invite that. Were you sitting in the editing room alone? 697 00:40:16,881 --> 00:40:19,441 Um - 698 00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:22,042 Well, I was sitting in the editing room with my son... 699 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:24,485 who, uh, was the assistant editor... 700 00:40:24,555 --> 00:40:26,489 and, uh, it was fascinating. 701 00:40:26,557 --> 00:40:28,582 Uh, and, you know, listen. 702 00:40:28,659 --> 00:40:32,652 Uh, we - None of us like criticism per se... 703 00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:36,757 uh, but, uh, it was interesting to me because... 704 00:40:36,834 --> 00:40:39,632 I realize that this was the other hand clapping. 705 00:40:39,703 --> 00:40:43,230 In other words, uh, you don't have a film... 706 00:40:43,307 --> 00:40:47,437 or a stage drama, or any kind of narrative form... 707 00:40:47,511 --> 00:40:52,107 that does not have conflict inherent in it of some kind. 708 00:40:52,183 --> 00:40:55,346 And when, uh, we finished shooting... 709 00:40:55,419 --> 00:41:00,789 I was a little disturbed by the fact that I didn't have enough conflict in the film. 710 00:41:00,858 --> 00:41:03,691 - [Laughing] - And when I saw this material... 711 00:41:03,761 --> 00:41:07,219 thatJonathan and - and Bob Rosen had put together... 712 00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,528 I said, "Hallelujah," you know. 713 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,967 Because I knew that that was gonna make the film, and so it has. 714 00:41:13,037 --> 00:41:16,700 - [Man] Are you gonna continue with those two characters in part two? - [Greaves] Yes. 715 00:41:16,774 --> 00:41:19,937 - We're gonna do the same dialogue? - [All Laughing] 716 00:41:21,545 --> 00:41:24,514 Well, uh, "symbiotaxiplasm"is a term... 717 00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:28,643 that was, uh, devised and conceived... 718 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,553 by a social science philosopher named Arthur Bentley... 719 00:41:32,623 --> 00:41:35,456 who was a contemporary ofJohn Dewey. 720 00:41:35,526 --> 00:41:38,859 And he studied the social sciences... 721 00:41:38,929 --> 00:41:42,092 from a scientific method perspective. 722 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:45,658 And, um, he called... 723 00:41:45,736 --> 00:41:48,762 the symbiotaxiplasm... 724 00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:54,209 all those events that life - that human beings are involved with... 725 00:41:54,278 --> 00:41:56,542 which, uh- which impact... 726 00:41:56,614 --> 00:42:01,347 their physical, social, material environment... 727 00:42:01,418 --> 00:42:06,355 and which in turn affect their personalities, their character. 728 00:42:06,423 --> 00:42:09,859 So there's a kind of a dialectic- uh, a-a dialogue... 729 00:42:09,927 --> 00:42:12,054 that goes on between... 730 00:42:12,129 --> 00:42:15,997 the, uh, individual - the human being - and his environment. 731 00:42:16,066 --> 00:42:20,264 Like this area here is a symbiotaxiplasm. 732 00:42:20,337 --> 00:42:24,933 Uh, because here we are. You're affecting me. I'm affecting you. So on and so forth. 733 00:42:25,009 --> 00:42:30,003 And all of the, uh, uh, developments that have taken place in social - 734 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,572 in human history is a result of that interchange. 735 00:42:33,651 --> 00:42:37,985 So I had the audacity to inject the term "psycho"- 736 00:42:38,055 --> 00:42:40,080 So it's "symbiopsychotaxiplasm"... 737 00:42:40,157 --> 00:42:45,652 and that designates, uh, the mental mechanisms that are involved in the creative process... 738 00:42:45,729 --> 00:42:50,291 as the individual moves through any given environment. 739 00:42:50,367 --> 00:42:56,203 There are a number of other very esoteric concerns that I have in making the film... 740 00:42:56,273 --> 00:42:58,434 which I tend not to talk about... 741 00:42:58,509 --> 00:43:01,069 because my wife, Louise, thinks - 742 00:43:01,145 --> 00:43:04,740 thinks that I'm, you know, uh, going off the deep end. 743 00:43:04,815 --> 00:43:07,010 [Audience Laughs] 744 00:43:07,084 --> 00:43:10,884 But, uh, we have principles like the Heisenberg principle of uncertainty... 745 00:43:10,955 --> 00:43:13,253 the Stanislavski system of acting... 746 00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:15,315 the, uh, chaos theory. 747 00:43:15,392 --> 00:43:18,850 Uh, there's an element of mysticism involved... 748 00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:22,228 of, uh, Sri Aurobindo, one of my gurus. 749 00:43:22,299 --> 00:43:25,496 Uh, there are a number of things that are operating in this... 750 00:43:25,569 --> 00:43:30,666 concurrent with this very obvious, uh... 751 00:43:30,741 --> 00:43:33,710 you know, screen test, which is a very simple event. 752 00:43:33,777 --> 00:43:38,305 Uh, where's Steve? Oh. There. Did I answer your question? 753 00:43:38,382 --> 00:43:40,873 Yeah, but, I mean, this film has never been released... 754 00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:43,943 and we're doing a sequel to a film that's never been - 755 00:43:46,924 --> 00:43:49,358 Could I ask you a question I've been wondering about? 756 00:43:49,426 --> 00:43:54,227 What exactly are you trying to do, um, with this second thing? 757 00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:58,132 I mean, surely what we're doing at this festival is not enough to make a film. 758 00:43:58,202 --> 00:44:00,602 - It's a part of a larger vision you have. - [Greaves] Yeah. 759 00:44:00,671 --> 00:44:03,367 - What is that? - L- I don't know. 760 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,603 - [Woman] Oh. - [Jonathan] I think we need Bob Rosen here. 761 00:44:06,677 --> 00:44:10,545 [Chattering] 762 00:44:10,614 --> 00:44:13,447 [Woman] You're totally reliant on the crew. 763 00:44:13,517 --> 00:44:15,781 - [Chattering] - Again, he's falling back to- 764 00:44:15,853 --> 00:44:17,787 But he's asked an explosive question... 765 00:44:17,855 --> 00:44:20,790 you know, that goes to the heart of this production. 766 00:44:20,858 --> 00:44:24,692 We've got that. But let's- Please. 767 00:44:24,762 --> 00:44:26,662 No. I - I quite agree. We'll move on. 768 00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:29,528 Terry Filgate, you're gonna be camera number one. 769 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,364 Jerry will be camera number two. 770 00:44:34,004 --> 00:44:36,734 Fred, you're camera number three. 771 00:44:36,807 --> 00:44:40,538 Linda's number four, and Mr. Greaves is going to be- 772 00:44:40,611 --> 00:44:44,445 - Bill is gonna be camera number five. - Occasionally. 773 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:47,313 Occasionally. When it's working. When camera five works. 774 00:45:48,612 --> 00:45:50,603 Thank you very much. 775 00:45:50,681 --> 00:45:54,481 Alice. Alice. 776 00:45:54,551 --> 00:45:57,042 [Chuckling] 777 00:45:57,121 --> 00:45:59,055 - Hi. - Hi. 778 00:45:59,123 --> 00:46:01,785 How are you? I thought you'd never get here. 779 00:46:01,859 --> 00:46:04,327 - I've been waiting for hours. - I told you that I would. 780 00:46:04,394 --> 00:46:08,922 - No, but I stood here for hours and hours. - You sounded so terrible on the telephone. 781 00:46:08,999 --> 00:46:10,489 - No. - Really. 782 00:46:10,567 --> 00:46:12,501 - No. I'm fine. - But you look fine. 783 00:46:12,569 --> 00:46:15,037 I'm great. I'm dying, but I'm great. [Laughs] 784 00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:17,801 - Oh. - Come on. 785 00:46:17,875 --> 00:46:20,639 [Chuckling] I thought you'd never get here. 786 00:46:20,711 --> 00:46:22,941 I told you I would. 787 00:46:23,013 --> 00:46:25,641 But you sounded so terrible on the phone. 788 00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:29,584 - I thought you were ill, but you look fine. - I'm great. 789 00:46:29,653 --> 00:46:32,383 - Well, I'm really glad to hear that. - [Chuckles] 790 00:46:32,456 --> 00:46:34,424 - I mean, I was worried. - Yeah? 791 00:46:34,491 --> 00:46:36,459 - Yes. - You look great. 792 00:46:36,527 --> 00:46:39,860 Well, thank you. For an old lady. 793 00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:43,331 [Freddie] You don't understand. 794 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,133 You're the -You're the most exciting human spirit I've ever met in my whole life. 795 00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:50,298 - [Alice Chuckles] - Do you understand that? 796 00:46:50,374 --> 00:46:53,832 - Oh, Freddie. - What? What? 797 00:47:01,018 --> 00:47:03,248 [Alice] This -This is something that I - 798 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,845 that you get in - in Germany as well. 799 00:47:05,923 --> 00:47:08,289 - Really? - Yes. 800 00:47:08,358 --> 00:47:10,724 In Germany it's now - It's also red. 801 00:47:10,794 --> 00:47:15,527 It's also green. It's also orange and everything. 802 00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,090 But it's incredible. 803 00:47:20,037 --> 00:47:23,871 [Alice] # I stand and watch the autumn leaves # 804 00:47:23,941 --> 00:47:26,705 # Falling, falling # 805 00:47:26,777 --> 00:47:29,905 # Somnolently falling # 806 00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:32,107 �Je t'aime Je t'aime � 807 00:47:32,182 --> 00:47:35,777 �Je t'aime, mon amour Je t'aime �� 808 00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:37,787 ## [Singing In German] 809 00:47:37,855 --> 00:47:41,154 - ## [Ends] - [Freddie] Can you believe this? 810 00:47:42,526 --> 00:47:45,791 - Isn't this a magical place? Hmm? - [Alice Sighs] 811 00:47:45,863 --> 00:47:48,195 [Freddie] So? Hmm? 812 00:47:49,499 --> 00:47:52,127 [Alice] Oh, thank you. Oh. 813 00:47:55,706 --> 00:47:57,799 Come on. 814 00:47:57,875 --> 00:48:01,402 It's -You know what it is? It's like - It's like enchanted. 815 00:48:01,478 --> 00:48:05,346 - [Freddie] It is enchanted. It is. It's magical. - [Alice] I mean, look at that. You know? 816 00:48:05,415 --> 00:48:08,350 It's-Jesus Christ. 817 00:48:08,418 --> 00:48:11,910 - It's like everything is alive. - Not "like." Everything is alive. 818 00:48:11,989 --> 00:48:13,980 - Right. - [Greaves] Cut. 819 00:48:14,057 --> 00:48:17,891 Uh, you've gotta - They're gonna be sitting here. 820 00:48:17,961 --> 00:48:19,929 You have to get out of here. 821 00:48:21,365 --> 00:48:24,562 Could you folks, uh, get over on this side? 822 00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:29,532 [Woman] Hi, puppy. 823 00:48:29,606 --> 00:48:33,508 - Uh, Shannon, Audrey. - [Man] Hello. 824 00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:35,772 And then where's the - Oh, I see it. 825 00:48:35,846 --> 00:48:38,337 - Is that the record button? - Yeah. 826 00:48:40,517 --> 00:48:44,385 - [Greaves] What's that- What's that sound? - ## [Earphones: Pop] 827 00:48:44,454 --> 00:48:46,888 Who's this? Who's this cameraman? 828 00:48:46,957 --> 00:48:49,619 - Um- - [Man] The sound of one hand clapping. 829 00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:52,560 Huh? The sound of- I see. 830 00:48:52,629 --> 00:48:55,189 Who's this cameraman? 831 00:48:55,265 --> 00:48:57,893 He's an import from Brooklyn. 832 00:48:57,968 --> 00:49:01,233 [Greaves] Is he from Brooklyn? Does he have a passport? 833 00:49:01,305 --> 00:49:05,036 Does he have a - Hey, fella. Have you got a passport from Brooklyn? 834 00:49:05,108 --> 00:49:08,168 - I don't need a passport, pal. - I beg your pardon? 835 00:49:08,245 --> 00:49:12,181 - You've gotta have a passport to make a film in Manhattan, you know. - Oh. All right. 836 00:49:12,249 --> 00:49:14,547 - We don't allow - - [Man] Actually, he's from Staten Island. 837 00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:17,610 - [Greaves] Do you have chutzpah? - Yeah. It's coming. 838 00:49:17,688 --> 00:49:20,452 Oh, good. Wonderful. 839 00:49:20,524 --> 00:49:23,823 - ## [Continues] - [Greaves] Okay. Okay. Here we go. 840 00:49:23,894 --> 00:49:25,828 - Are you Steve Buscemi? - Yeah. 841 00:49:25,896 --> 00:49:27,295 Oh. Nice to meet you. 842 00:49:27,364 --> 00:49:30,492 - Your film Living in Oblivion. Ah? - Oh, yeah. Yeah. 843 00:49:30,567 --> 00:49:32,694 - It's the greatest. - Thank you very much. 844 00:49:32,769 --> 00:49:35,237 �� [Continues] 845 00:49:41,845 --> 00:49:46,282 [Greaves] What I want to do, first of all, is do a run-through with the script. 846 00:49:46,350 --> 00:49:48,284 Right. 847 00:49:48,352 --> 00:49:52,550 But what we're going to do is, we're going to do scene by scene. 848 00:49:52,622 --> 00:49:55,785 - I mean, there's six scenes or seven scenes in it. - Right. 849 00:49:55,859 --> 00:49:59,420 So we're gonna do the run-through from the script... 850 00:49:59,496 --> 00:50:01,430 verbatim to the script... 851 00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:05,093 and then we will - as much as you can retain of the script... 852 00:50:05,168 --> 00:50:07,261 we're gonna do just that little section. 853 00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:09,430 - Good. Okay. - You follow me? 854 00:50:09,506 --> 00:50:13,237 It'll only be like a minute, or a minute and a half, or two minutes, like that. 855 00:50:13,310 --> 00:50:15,244 Right. Should I get the script then? 856 00:50:15,312 --> 00:50:17,746 - Get your script. Get - - I don't have it with me. 857 00:50:17,814 --> 00:50:19,805 I have - Sorry. 858 00:50:20,851 --> 00:50:23,251 - Okay, so, uh - - A script. 859 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:28,383 - I wondered if you might change your mind. - [Laughs] I told you I'd be here. 860 00:50:28,458 --> 00:50:31,950 You know, you sounded really terrible on the phone. 861 00:50:32,029 --> 00:50:33,963 - I was worried. - I feel fine. 862 00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:36,659 - But you look fine. - I do. I'm fine. 863 00:50:36,733 --> 00:50:39,531 - Y-Y-You - - God, I'm glad to hear that. 864 00:50:39,603 --> 00:50:42,299 - You look great. - [Laughs] Thank you. 865 00:50:42,372 --> 00:50:44,806 Uh, for an old lady. Well, anyway- 866 00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:49,403 Hey, a lot of young women would really envy you. 867 00:50:49,479 --> 00:50:52,880 A singing career under your belt. You're still going strong. 868 00:50:54,584 --> 00:50:56,518 Fine. 869 00:50:56,586 --> 00:50:58,781 - That's it. That's the first scene. - That was the first scene. 870 00:50:58,855 --> 00:51:02,586 [Greaves] All right, let's go to the next, uh, section. 871 00:51:02,659 --> 00:51:07,323 What I'm doing is, I'm taking this section by section... 872 00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,331 and going, uh- 873 00:51:09,399 --> 00:51:12,300 We're going through the lines just for that... 874 00:51:12,369 --> 00:51:14,894 - [Buscemi] Just for that -Yeah. - [Greaves] seven or eight lines... 875 00:51:14,971 --> 00:51:16,905 [Buscemi] Like it's broken down in the script? 876 00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:19,908 And then, you know, doing what they can from memory... 877 00:51:19,976 --> 00:51:23,742 and whatever they can't, they put in spontaneously... 878 00:51:23,814 --> 00:51:26,305 as improvisation stuff, you know. 879 00:51:26,383 --> 00:51:28,317 So, that's what we're doing. 880 00:51:28,385 --> 00:51:30,819 [Greaves] Stand by. All right, roll it. 881 00:51:30,887 --> 00:51:32,821 And action. 882 00:51:32,889 --> 00:51:36,086 Okay. Okay? It was a stupid idea. 883 00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,593 You've got a lot of nerve. 884 00:51:38,662 --> 00:51:41,256 I could have had a daughter of my own. 885 00:51:41,331 --> 00:51:44,789 Now you tell me you want to pass this stupid woman... 886 00:51:44,868 --> 00:51:47,029 this orphan, on to me. 887 00:51:47,104 --> 00:51:49,095 No! 888 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,739 - I didn't realize you were still so bitter. - Oh. 889 00:51:53,810 --> 00:51:56,870 Oh! Of course I am. 890 00:51:56,947 --> 00:52:00,041 I could have had a family of my own. 891 00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:07,018 [Chuckles] That's why I thought you might have done it. 892 00:52:07,090 --> 00:52:10,321 For yourself, if not for her. 893 00:52:15,999 --> 00:52:17,967 Then what - [Exhales] 894 00:52:18,034 --> 00:52:21,435 Cut. Okay? Excellent. 895 00:52:21,505 --> 00:52:24,497 Excellent. Very good. 896 00:52:27,043 --> 00:52:30,069 Uh, Steve, um... 897 00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:35,744 the, uh - the actors are very- uh, very anxious about the two of us coming at them - 898 00:52:35,819 --> 00:52:38,049 At once. So I'm gonna hang back. 899 00:52:38,121 --> 00:52:40,646 - Okay. All right. Okay. - Okay. 900 00:52:41,791 --> 00:52:43,725 - Audrey- - Shh. 901 00:52:43,793 --> 00:52:46,387 - [Woman] Can we be here, Bill? - Huh? 902 00:52:46,463 --> 00:52:49,728 [Man] You wanna have them walk out of the frame in this one though, right? 903 00:52:49,799 --> 00:52:52,233 - [Greaves] They walk out of the frame. - All right. 904 00:52:52,302 --> 00:52:54,770 - We'll just have them get up and leave. - [Greaves] Yeah, get up and leave. 905 00:52:54,838 --> 00:52:57,272 - Then we'll have them sit into the other one. - Huh? 906 00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:00,275 - Have 'em sit into the other one. - Well, yeah. Yeah. 907 00:53:00,343 --> 00:53:03,608 - And they may sit into another- - Or maybe you want a wide shot of them - 908 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,615 They may sit into another location. You know what I mean? 909 00:53:06,683 --> 00:53:09,914 You want a wide shot of them getting up and leaving, or just - 910 00:53:09,986 --> 00:53:11,977 Uh - 911 00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:16,125 She says, "No." She says, "No, no." 912 00:53:16,193 --> 00:53:19,128 - [Terry] But they'll come out- - L-L-Let's try- 913 00:53:19,196 --> 00:53:23,690 - So he's gotta have each one of them. - Let's try a wide - Let's try a wide - 914 00:53:23,767 --> 00:53:26,702 Let's try a close-up of her getting up and leaving. 915 00:53:26,770 --> 00:53:30,103 - Right. - And then we'll do it again with the wider shot. 916 00:53:30,173 --> 00:53:32,573 - Okay. - Okay? That has - It's a two-shot. 917 00:53:32,642 --> 00:53:35,577 Okay? All right. Okay. All right. 918 00:53:35,645 --> 00:53:39,308 [Terry] Their final line is, "We've had enough of this,"and then they leave. 919 00:53:39,382 --> 00:53:42,647 I'm sorry. Would you kindly project - What did you say? 920 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,485 The final line is, "We've had enough of this," and they leave. 921 00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:49,548 Then the crew goes pursuing them for another location. 922 00:53:49,626 --> 00:53:52,561 I wanna know what you said about Bill spitting in the subway. 923 00:53:52,629 --> 00:53:54,563 I said there are people down there. 924 00:53:54,631 --> 00:53:57,794 Is that your attitude to them, when you spat into the subway grating? 925 00:53:57,867 --> 00:54:01,633 I spit on the grille, and he said, "There are people down there!" 926 00:54:01,705 --> 00:54:05,334 He never was like that before till he came back to New York. 927 00:54:05,408 --> 00:54:08,309 Spit down gratings on the subway. 928 00:54:08,378 --> 00:54:11,279 All right, enough of this levity. 929 00:54:11,348 --> 00:54:14,283 Enough of this levity, Mr. Filgate. We're busy people here. 930 00:54:14,351 --> 00:54:16,285 - [Man] This is serious business. - Okay? 931 00:54:16,353 --> 00:54:18,878 - [Terry] Okay. We'll get serious. - Okay. 932 00:54:18,955 --> 00:54:24,052 [Greaves] Uh, could you- could you take your seat there? 933 00:54:24,127 --> 00:54:26,994 We should go up this way. 934 00:54:27,063 --> 00:54:29,497 Mr. Greaves says he doesn't want to - 935 00:54:30,634 --> 00:54:33,694 - We're ending up right here. - On the first leg of our journey. 936 00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:35,533 [Woman] On the first leg. 937 00:54:35,605 --> 00:54:38,506 [Greaves] Even when they're not acting. 938 00:54:41,011 --> 00:54:43,445 - [Man] Everyone thinks they're directing. - [Greaves] What? 939 00:54:43,513 --> 00:54:46,277 - Every actor thinks they're directing. - [Greaves Chuckles] 940 00:54:49,352 --> 00:54:52,344 [No Audible Dialogue] 941 00:55:11,775 --> 00:55:16,371 [Jonathan] Bill said to me yesterday- He said to moderate a discussion here. 942 00:55:16,446 --> 00:55:21,110 And so, there's a few things, um, I want to say. 943 00:55:21,184 --> 00:55:24,119 First of all, this is very open. 944 00:55:24,187 --> 00:55:27,213 There's no manipulation from Bill as to where - 945 00:55:27,290 --> 00:55:31,192 He's not manipulating me to manipulate anybody to say anything. 946 00:55:31,261 --> 00:55:35,027 Um, and I was actually surprised at the degree... 947 00:55:35,098 --> 00:55:37,498 to which he did leave it open. 948 00:55:37,567 --> 00:55:43,028 And, um, those of you who saw the first Symbio know... 949 00:55:43,106 --> 00:55:47,065 that at a certain point in the production... 950 00:55:47,143 --> 00:55:49,509 due to frustration at this process... 951 00:55:49,579 --> 00:55:52,548 that Bill was leading us on... 952 00:55:52,615 --> 00:55:55,175 we mutinied, we grabbed some film and tape... 953 00:55:55,251 --> 00:55:59,483 we went into an editing room and we had a talk about this. 954 00:55:59,556 --> 00:56:02,457 But there's a few very significant differences here. 955 00:56:02,525 --> 00:56:06,621 First of all, in 1968 it was a genuine transgression. 956 00:56:06,696 --> 00:56:09,859 We were not supposed to be doing this. We just did it. 957 00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:14,097 It was transgressing the director-crew boundary... 958 00:56:14,170 --> 00:56:16,798 that any production is supposed to have. 959 00:56:18,074 --> 00:56:21,510 And, uh, we didn't do it for the purpose of winding up on the film. 960 00:56:21,578 --> 00:56:25,344 We just did it, thinking it was sort of a filmmaker-to-filmmaker joke... 961 00:56:25,415 --> 00:56:28,441 and that Bill would see it when he developed the film... 962 00:56:28,518 --> 00:56:30,713 and that was the best we could do. 963 00:56:30,787 --> 00:56:34,314 It was one of the best things we could do about our participation. 964 00:56:34,391 --> 00:56:36,689 And the context was really different. 965 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,887 There was not yet a film called Symbio. 966 00:56:38,962 --> 00:56:42,193 There was just three days called Symbio, or however many days it was. 967 00:56:42,265 --> 00:56:45,200 So there was no film that had been made. 968 00:56:45,268 --> 00:56:48,203 There was no Steve Buscemi. There was no mystique. 969 00:56:48,271 --> 00:56:50,831 There was no Southampton Film Festival. 970 00:56:50,907 --> 00:56:53,205 There was nothing you could point to, like you can point- 971 00:56:53,276 --> 00:56:56,575 Even those of you who haven't been here, you can all point to something... 972 00:56:56,646 --> 00:56:58,580 that already has happened with Symbio. 973 00:56:58,648 --> 00:57:02,175 You know it's something. In 1968 we didn't know whether it was something. 974 00:57:02,252 --> 00:57:05,983 So there was a legitimate question that we would have coming together. 975 00:57:06,055 --> 00:57:09,149 I mean, a really mature, legitimate, artistic question... 976 00:57:09,225 --> 00:57:11,716 of whether our colleague and friend knew what he was doing. 977 00:57:11,795 --> 00:57:14,764 If that rebellion - that crew rebellion - 978 00:57:14,831 --> 00:57:20,201 It had an incredibly powerful function in the context of that movie... 979 00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:24,366 in that it gave the movie an incredible amount of conflict. 980 00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:27,376 You know? As soon as that started to happen - 981 00:57:27,444 --> 00:57:30,880 In the beginning, you started to wonder who these flaky guys were. 982 00:57:30,947 --> 00:57:35,714 Then the rebellion starts to happen and you think, "Hey, something is really going on here." 983 00:57:35,785 --> 00:57:39,152 And there's an enormous amount of conflict about how it's gonna turn out. 984 00:57:39,222 --> 00:57:43,022 What is Bill going to do in this picture to get that kind of conflict... 985 00:57:43,092 --> 00:57:45,822 and can what we're doing succeed without conflict? 986 00:57:45,895 --> 00:57:48,420 Is conflict necessary to make this kind of thing work? 987 00:57:48,498 --> 00:57:52,059 Because on this shoot it seems like it's a little bit more overt. 988 00:57:52,135 --> 00:57:54,069 [Woman #1] It's totally overt. 989 00:57:54,137 --> 00:57:56,071 - Okay. Totally overt. - Totally overt. 990 00:57:56,139 --> 00:57:59,870 [Woman #2] But because they're trying to get this conflict, I think it may be heightened. 991 00:57:59,943 --> 00:58:02,104 Because, as you say, there's no natural conflict. 992 00:58:02,178 --> 00:58:05,272 What happened to you all in '68 is just not happening. 993 00:58:05,348 --> 00:58:08,408 And I think everybody may be reaching now for something. 994 00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:12,046 This is actually almost more a history lesson than anything. 995 00:58:12,121 --> 00:58:15,056 I mean, what has transpired in 35 years? 996 00:58:15,124 --> 00:58:18,821 Just like the relationship between the two characters in the film has changed... 997 00:58:18,895 --> 00:58:23,355 the relationship of the crew to the director has changed... 998 00:58:23,433 --> 00:58:27,233 just as a natural evolution in film history. 999 00:58:27,303 --> 00:58:30,830 We've, you know - We can't create that conflict. 1000 00:58:30,907 --> 00:58:33,375 - [Man] No, we can't. Not honestly. - Not honestly. 1001 00:58:33,443 --> 00:58:37,971 If the conflict were to exist, we should never have seen this film. 1002 00:58:38,047 --> 00:58:40,038 [Sighs] 1003 00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:45,412 - It's beautiful. - It is. 1004 00:58:45,488 --> 00:58:48,616 - [Groans, Sighs] - Absolutely- 1005 00:58:48,691 --> 00:58:50,625 [Alice] Absolutely fantastic. 1006 00:58:50,693 --> 00:58:53,423 [Freddie] It's kind of sunny, so why don't we sit over here. 1007 00:58:53,496 --> 00:58:55,487 Okay. 1008 00:58:59,969 --> 00:59:01,960 Okay. 1009 00:59:03,706 --> 00:59:05,697 - This better? - Yes. 1010 00:59:06,843 --> 00:59:09,334 Mmm. There's something I want to show you. 1011 00:59:15,885 --> 00:59:17,978 [Chuckles] You remember this? 1012 00:59:18,054 --> 00:59:20,249 [Alice Gasps] 1013 00:59:20,323 --> 00:59:22,257 Oh, my God. 1014 00:59:22,325 --> 00:59:24,259 [Laughs] Oh, my G - 1015 00:59:24,327 --> 00:59:26,488 Was I ever that young? 1016 00:59:26,563 --> 00:59:28,554 - You look so beautiful. - Where'd you get this? 1017 00:59:28,631 --> 00:59:31,964 - I saved it. - Really? The two of us. 1018 00:59:32,035 --> 00:59:35,129 - Can you believe it? - Looks like hundreds of years ago. 1019 00:59:35,204 --> 00:59:39,140 - You think? - Oh, my God. 1020 00:59:44,347 --> 00:59:47,282 [Alice] You know, Europe was really good to me. 1021 00:59:47,350 --> 00:59:50,342 Doors opened everywhere. 1022 00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:53,355 And I got a chance to start really afresh. 1023 00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:56,722 - Mmm. - Sort of pick up the pieces of my life. 1024 00:59:56,793 --> 00:59:58,727 Mmm. 1025 00:59:58,795 --> 01:00:02,390 Thanks for sending the recordings. They're great. 1026 01:00:02,465 --> 01:00:05,457 You've got such a distinctive sound. 1027 01:00:05,535 --> 01:00:11,132 Is that why you dragged me from Europe - to tell me you like my voice? 1028 01:00:11,207 --> 01:00:14,301 Not really. There's something I needed to talk to you about. 1029 01:00:15,445 --> 01:00:18,437 I've got this one young lady- 1030 01:00:18,514 --> 01:00:20,539 she was busted for possession. 1031 01:00:20,617 --> 01:00:24,314 All my kids get busted for possession because of these stupid Rockefeller laws. 1032 01:00:24,387 --> 01:00:26,321 Anyway, she's sober... 1033 01:00:26,389 --> 01:00:28,653 she's been clean for a while... 1034 01:00:28,725 --> 01:00:31,489 and she's gonna need a lot ofhelp, support. 1035 01:00:31,561 --> 01:00:33,552 And, um... 1036 01:00:35,665 --> 01:00:37,599 she's a singer. 1037 01:00:37,667 --> 01:00:41,603 She's beautiful. She's like my adopted daughter. 1038 01:00:41,671 --> 01:00:45,038 And I was hoping that maybe you could meet her. 1039 01:00:45,108 --> 01:00:47,042 Freddie... 1040 01:00:47,110 --> 01:00:51,843 you know, I think... you've just worked too hard. 1041 01:00:52,949 --> 01:00:56,749 You're doing- I mean, it's a stressful situation that you're in. 1042 01:00:59,255 --> 01:01:02,986 Hey, there's a wonderful European spa that I go to. 1043 01:01:03,059 --> 01:01:04,993 Mm-hmm. 1044 01:01:05,061 --> 01:01:08,690 I'll pay your way, and you can stay as long as you want. 1045 01:01:08,765 --> 01:01:11,700 - [Freddie Laughs] - The tab's on me. 1046 01:01:11,768 --> 01:01:15,534 L- I don't think I can. Not right now. 1047 01:01:15,605 --> 01:01:19,006 I'm just too involved with the work I'm doing and - 1048 01:01:19,075 --> 01:01:21,509 And besides, I'm very concerned about this - 1049 01:01:21,577 --> 01:01:23,511 this young lady. 1050 01:01:23,579 --> 01:01:25,774 She's like my adopted daughter. 1051 01:01:25,848 --> 01:01:29,784 - She's gonna need a lot of support. - What are you getting at, Freddie? 1052 01:01:29,852 --> 01:01:31,911 I wanted to introduce her to you. 1053 01:01:34,691 --> 01:01:36,625 Yeah- 1054 01:01:36,693 --> 01:01:40,288 Maybe she could go back with you to Europe. 1055 01:01:41,297 --> 01:01:43,458 [Laughing] Jesus! 1056 01:01:43,533 --> 01:01:45,626 [Freddie] What? 1057 01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:48,466 - This is incredible. - You like the idea? 1058 01:01:48,538 --> 01:01:50,529 I mean - 1059 01:01:51,741 --> 01:01:54,676 You -Why didn't you tell me this on the telephone? 1060 01:01:54,744 --> 01:01:58,180 - I couldn't tell you that on the phone. - Why didn't you tell me this on the telephone? 1061 01:01:58,247 --> 01:02:01,683 How could I tell you that on the- I want you to meet her in person. 1062 01:02:01,751 --> 01:02:04,686 You could have had my answer then... 1063 01:02:04,754 --> 01:02:07,120 which is no. 1064 01:02:09,926 --> 01:02:11,917 No. 1065 01:02:13,529 --> 01:02:15,724 [Speaking Foreign Language] No. 1066 01:02:18,034 --> 01:02:19,968 [Freddie Sighs] 1067 01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:22,671 [Greaves] Okay, cut. 1068 01:02:22,739 --> 01:02:26,505 All right, let's- let's do that "no, no"and then get up- 1069 01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:28,635 And then get up. Right. 1070 01:02:28,711 --> 01:02:31,612 [Greaves] Roll 'em. Roll cameras. 1071 01:02:31,681 --> 01:02:34,275 - [Man #1] Rolling. - [Man #2] Speed. 1072 01:02:34,350 --> 01:02:37,410 [Greaves] And... action. 1073 01:02:37,487 --> 01:02:42,390 She doesn't have any female role models that she can identify with. 1074 01:02:46,596 --> 01:02:51,158 You mean you brought me all the way from Europe to tell me this? 1075 01:02:54,036 --> 01:02:58,405 You could have had my answer on the telephone... 1076 01:02:58,474 --> 01:03:00,408 which is... 1077 01:03:00,476 --> 01:03:04,708 no, no, no. 1078 01:03:10,553 --> 01:03:13,886 Alice. Alice. 1079 01:03:14,891 --> 01:03:16,882 Alice. 1080 01:03:18,528 --> 01:03:22,020 Alice! Okay, it was a stupid idea. 1081 01:03:23,032 --> 01:03:26,968 We're gonna re - We're gonna redo this whole scene again... 1082 01:03:27,036 --> 01:03:28,970 at another location. 1083 01:03:29,038 --> 01:03:31,973 It's the Strawberry Fields location. 1084 01:03:32,041 --> 01:03:34,532 It's a wonderful backdrop... 1085 01:03:34,610 --> 01:03:38,137 for this, uh, psychodrama to take place. 1086 01:03:38,214 --> 01:03:40,148 - Take place, yeah. - So it'll be - 1087 01:03:40,216 --> 01:03:42,150 - Cool my jets. Yeah. - Yeah, right. 1088 01:03:42,218 --> 01:03:45,016 But at least you're getting the material that you need to work with. Okay? 1089 01:03:45,087 --> 01:03:47,453 - I am. Thank you. - Okay. 1090 01:03:48,925 --> 01:03:50,916 [Greaves] Wait for me. 1091 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,397 Okay, it was a stupid idea. 1092 01:04:00,469 --> 01:04:03,461 You bet. You have a lot of nerve. 1093 01:04:03,539 --> 01:04:06,599 I mean, I could have had this child of my own. 1094 01:04:06,676 --> 01:04:10,612 Now you're trying to pass off this so-called orphan daughter of yours. 1095 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,739 I didn't realize you'd be so - 1096 01:04:12,815 --> 01:04:14,407 I'm not having it. 1097 01:04:14,483 --> 01:04:18,613 I am too tired, I am too old... 1098 01:04:18,688 --> 01:04:21,657 and I'm worn out. 1099 01:04:21,724 --> 01:04:25,319 - I didn't realize you'd be so bitter. - I am bitter. 1100 01:04:25,394 --> 01:04:27,692 And I have a right to be. 1101 01:04:29,198 --> 01:04:31,132 [Greaves] Okay, good. 1102 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,227 [Man] When she stood up, she totally blocked him. So we need a mark. 1103 01:04:35,304 --> 01:04:37,499 When? When do I cover him? 1104 01:04:37,573 --> 01:04:41,509 I'm gonna- When she gets up, I'm gonna- I'm just gonna stay. 1105 01:04:41,577 --> 01:04:44,512 [Man] Yeah, I know, but she was dead in front of you. 1106 01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:47,014 [Audrey] Oh, wait, wait, wait. 1107 01:04:47,083 --> 01:04:50,314 [Greaves] She walks off, and then you want her to move over to here? 1108 01:04:50,386 --> 01:04:53,822 [Man] Yeah, that's the wrong camera direction. 1109 01:04:53,890 --> 01:04:56,688 - And here? - No, no. 1110 01:04:56,759 --> 01:04:58,886 If she'd just - 1111 01:04:58,961 --> 01:05:03,193 - If I stood here- - Yeah, just stand up and move a little this way. 1112 01:05:03,266 --> 01:05:05,257 Right. Okay. You know - 1113 01:05:06,369 --> 01:05:09,361 [Audrey Speaking, Faint] 1114 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,968 [Man] Right. Yeah, that's good. 1115 01:05:15,778 --> 01:05:18,008 - However- - What? 1116 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:23,017 [Man] What? I was just saying, however, the screen direction's wrong. 1117 01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:25,519 She needs to be on this side of the camera. 1118 01:05:25,588 --> 01:05:28,056 - She's on this side of the camera? - Right. 1119 01:05:28,124 --> 01:05:31,821 If you wanna be able to cut to her, to that camera... 1120 01:05:31,894 --> 01:05:36,092 he's gotta be looking left to right, she's gotta be looking- Right? 1121 01:05:36,165 --> 01:05:39,032 So when she crosses the axis this way... 1122 01:05:39,101 --> 01:05:42,468 he's no longer looking left-to-right, he's looking right-to-left. 1123 01:05:42,538 --> 01:05:44,472 - Wow. - You understand that? 1124 01:05:44,540 --> 01:05:47,407 - Yeah. - As long as you understand it and I'm - 1125 01:05:47,476 --> 01:05:50,411 [Greaves] Not to worry. I will edit- 1126 01:05:50,479 --> 01:05:55,542 I'll be the editor, and I promise you it all will be corrected. 1127 01:05:55,618 --> 01:05:58,178 Okay? Don't worry about it. 1128 01:05:58,254 --> 01:06:00,188 As I say, trust me, folks. 1129 01:06:00,256 --> 01:06:02,816 I mean, I know how to make a movie. Okay? 1130 01:06:02,892 --> 01:06:04,883 All right, so, um - 1131 01:06:04,961 --> 01:06:08,897 - Let mejust explain it to these guys. - [Greaves] No, it's okay. Please. 1132 01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:14,369 I'll cut away to a rowboat or something else- the foliage. 1133 01:06:14,437 --> 01:06:17,201 - You know what I mean? - Right. 1134 01:06:17,273 --> 01:06:19,707 - Before it gets, uh - - Okay. 1135 01:06:19,775 --> 01:06:21,709 All right, um - 1136 01:06:21,777 --> 01:06:25,406 I mean, what are you suggesting, that she go that way? 1137 01:06:25,481 --> 01:06:29,508 Or we cover her from this side. 1138 01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:32,953 That - No, that bothers me. No, I think- 1139 01:06:33,022 --> 01:06:36,480 Well, see, that's a natural cut. A natural cut is right-to-left or left-to-right. 1140 01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,493 Yeah, I understand. 1141 01:06:38,561 --> 01:06:41,587 So when she crosses the axis here, you really need to be here... 1142 01:06:41,664 --> 01:06:44,098 in order to get her dialogue... 1143 01:06:44,166 --> 01:06:47,101 in order to have right screen direction for her to have the dialogue. 1144 01:06:47,169 --> 01:06:50,935 I'm gonna stay- I'm gonna stay on him. I'm gonna stay on him. 1145 01:06:53,509 --> 01:06:55,443 All right, um - 1146 01:06:55,511 --> 01:06:59,208 Usually, that's what I do, is worry about that. 1147 01:06:59,281 --> 01:07:01,215 But - 1148 01:07:01,283 --> 01:07:03,808 - [Man Laughs] - You know. 1149 01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:07,519 Put in my two cents, right? 1150 01:07:08,791 --> 01:07:11,783 [Jonathan] But cinematographers have a different relationship to directors... 1151 01:07:11,894 --> 01:07:14,328 than many other film craftsmen. 1152 01:07:14,397 --> 01:07:16,331 Or correct me if I'm wrong. 1153 01:07:16,399 --> 01:07:20,699 It's a more intimate, collegial, collaborative relationship with the director's eye... 1154 01:07:20,770 --> 01:07:23,068 because it's so connected to the cinematographer's eye. 1155 01:07:23,139 --> 01:07:25,073 - Is that right, Terry? - [Terry] Yeah, screen- 1156 01:07:25,141 --> 01:07:28,338 I would say that 90% of the directors who I work for... 1157 01:07:28,411 --> 01:07:31,346 have not a clue about technical aspects of filmmaking. 1158 01:07:31,414 --> 01:07:33,348 [Terry] You think they come out of television? 1159 01:07:33,416 --> 01:07:36,351 Well, first of all, a lot of them are first-time directors. 1160 01:07:36,419 --> 01:07:39,354 I've worked with a lot of first-time directors who don't have any idea, technically- 1161 01:07:39,422 --> 01:07:41,686 - You train them. - Phil? 1162 01:07:41,757 --> 01:07:44,021 Now, under normal circumstances- 1163 01:07:44,093 --> 01:07:47,028 When you come to William with ideas and suggestions... 1164 01:07:47,096 --> 01:07:49,360 about traditional techniques to avoid - 1165 01:07:49,432 --> 01:07:51,366 [Phil] He's basically indifferent. 1166 01:07:51,434 --> 01:07:53,834 - [Laughing] - I mean, he doesn't really care. 1167 01:07:53,903 --> 01:07:56,838 - So, I mean, my, you know- - [Terry] Bill doesn't care. 1168 01:07:56,906 --> 01:07:59,841 You tell him something, and he doesn't care. You say, "This won't cut"- 1169 01:07:59,909 --> 01:08:03,345 He was coming left out of your frame and coming in the opposite way on my frame. 1170 01:08:03,412 --> 01:08:07,348 What do you do in this situation? Do you get what's correct, or what he wants? 1171 01:08:07,416 --> 01:08:10,010 [Phil] Under normal circumstances, on a normal movie... 1172 01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:13,021 I would be answerable to the producer who would say to me... 1173 01:08:13,089 --> 01:08:16,024 - "Why didn't you tell him how to do this?" - Right. Right. Right. Right. 1174 01:08:16,092 --> 01:08:18,526 So, you know, it's a different dynamic. 1175 01:08:18,594 --> 01:08:21,028 [Jonathan] What do you do in this case? 1176 01:08:21,097 --> 01:08:25,659 In this case, he's the producer and the director, so you can't really tell him what to do. 1177 01:08:25,734 --> 01:08:27,668 So you would - Look-What? 1178 01:08:27,736 --> 01:08:32,173 I'd say, in other circumstances, I would be much more forceful... 1179 01:08:32,241 --> 01:08:34,175 in pushing my, uh... 1180 01:08:34,243 --> 01:08:37,178 technical knowledge about how to make a movie. 1181 01:08:37,246 --> 01:08:40,181 But it seems to me that he's got his own agenda here... 1182 01:08:40,249 --> 01:08:44,185 which is not necessarily the technical aspects of making a movie. 1183 01:08:44,253 --> 01:08:46,517 - So - - Or even of postproduction of- 1184 01:08:46,589 --> 01:08:49,786 Or of anything - Of anything about making a theatrical film. 1185 01:08:49,859 --> 01:08:54,193 So it seems to me that my role here is very different than it would be... 1186 01:08:54,263 --> 01:08:56,197 in normal circumstances. 1187 01:08:56,265 --> 01:09:00,599 He's got an agenda which maybe I don't even understand. 1188 01:09:00,669 --> 01:09:05,038 And I can appreciate that, so I'll go with the flow, see where it's taking me. 1189 01:09:05,107 --> 01:09:08,941 I'm coming from a director's point- But I don't want to direct the film or anything. 1190 01:09:09,011 --> 01:09:13,471 But I was telling John that it would be interesting to see Audrey just totally break rank... 1191 01:09:13,549 --> 01:09:16,211 and break, you know, the "actory" - 1192 01:09:16,285 --> 01:09:19,220 Something needs to be given to her to just throw her off... 1193 01:09:19,288 --> 01:09:22,780 and she can start speaking that German - cussing in German - 1194 01:09:22,858 --> 01:09:27,454 and just totally break from her shell, this shield, this defense she's put up... 1195 01:09:27,530 --> 01:09:29,464 and just give it to him. 1196 01:09:29,532 --> 01:09:32,194 I would like to see less aversion. 1197 01:09:32,268 --> 01:09:38,002 Especially because, at the end of his life, no matter what has happened between them... 1198 01:09:38,073 --> 01:09:40,234 there's seems to be no forgiveness, you see. 1199 01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:44,075 - Mm-hmm. - And I understand the wound, of course. 1200 01:09:44,146 --> 01:09:46,011 But there's no forgiveness, you see. 1201 01:09:46,081 --> 01:09:49,414 But there's no forgiveness from the get-go, there's no forgiveness from the starting gate. 1202 01:09:49,485 --> 01:09:51,453 - Why did she come? - Why did she come? 1203 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,648 Now, I can see, the way the conversation is going... 1204 01:09:54,723 --> 01:09:58,318 and the pitiful way he wants to position this... 1205 01:09:58,394 --> 01:10:01,522 I can see, ultimately, an aversion - 1206 01:10:01,597 --> 01:10:03,827 "Oh, this is too much. I can't go here." 1207 01:10:03,899 --> 01:10:07,835 But up to that point, I would think a little something - 1208 01:10:07,903 --> 01:10:10,064 More warmth or something would be appropriate. 1209 01:10:10,139 --> 01:10:12,073 Mm-hmm. 1210 01:10:12,141 --> 01:10:14,075 [Greaves] What I love about making films... 1211 01:10:14,143 --> 01:10:17,704 is that everybody wants to be a director, everybody wants to be a producer. 1212 01:10:17,780 --> 01:10:20,214 And this is what Symbio is all about. 1213 01:10:20,282 --> 01:10:23,718 You know, that wonderful thing in the crew room where everyone... 1214 01:10:23,786 --> 01:10:27,187 [Chuckles] Expresses their need to... 1215 01:10:27,256 --> 01:10:30,316 control the creation of reality, you know, the cosmos. 1216 01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:32,326 [Buscemi] Can we get a camera on Bill? 1217 01:10:32,394 --> 01:10:35,488 [Greaves] George Bush- W. - this is what he's trying to- 1218 01:10:35,564 --> 01:10:38,499 he wants control of the world- that's what he's trying to do. 1219 01:10:38,567 --> 01:10:43,095 I mean, that's when it reaches its highest manifestation, this need to take over- 1220 01:10:43,172 --> 01:10:46,539 Well, actually, he's destroying the world in the process of trying to - 1221 01:10:46,609 --> 01:10:49,544 You think he really wants to be a director, George Bush? 1222 01:10:49,612 --> 01:10:51,671 Yeah, I think he wants to direct humanity. 1223 01:10:51,747 --> 01:10:54,682 - Can I ask you a question while we're waiting? - Sure. 1224 01:10:54,750 --> 01:10:57,184 But I don't know, uh - 1225 01:10:57,253 --> 01:11:00,188 'Cause we were talking about this, and since you brought it up - 1226 01:11:00,256 --> 01:11:02,190 Yeah? 1227 01:11:02,258 --> 01:11:05,523 When you made the first Symbiopsychotaxiplasm Take One... 1228 01:11:05,594 --> 01:11:07,528 Yes. 1229 01:11:07,596 --> 01:11:10,030 It was at the height of the Vietnam War. 1230 01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:15,036 Now, I know you didn't time this to happen during what's going on in Iraq... 1231 01:11:15,104 --> 01:11:17,368 where there's war- 1232 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,842 - The war's ended, and there's more soldiers who have been killed - - Sure. 1233 01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:23,844 During - during the war. 1234 01:11:23,912 --> 01:11:26,176 - Yeah. - Um - 1235 01:11:26,248 --> 01:11:30,582 Of course, during the 1968 shooting... 1236 01:11:30,653 --> 01:11:32,587 of Symbio One... 1237 01:11:32,655 --> 01:11:34,589 uh, ultimately... 1238 01:11:34,657 --> 01:11:37,148 it was a metaphor for the Vietnam War. 1239 01:11:37,226 --> 01:11:39,160 That's what I was saying. 1240 01:11:39,228 --> 01:11:43,995 Now, you don't - But you didn't -you didn't - you didn't see it, or you don't believe it? 1241 01:11:44,066 --> 01:11:47,001 - Or it doesn't mean anything to you? - It's just no savvy. 1242 01:11:47,069 --> 01:11:49,503 I mean, I don't disbelieve it if he says it... 1243 01:11:49,571 --> 01:11:53,632 but from my own point of view, I don't capture that metaphor- I don't get it. 1244 01:11:53,709 --> 01:11:57,338 The important thing for me is that, as I said - 1245 01:11:57,413 --> 01:12:02,043 Actually, I said it on the grass there when I was meeting with the crew - 1246 01:12:02,117 --> 01:12:04,108 It doesn't matter... 1247 01:12:05,254 --> 01:12:07,688 whether or not you get the metaphor... 1248 01:12:07,756 --> 01:12:10,224 that the particular artist has in mind... 1249 01:12:10,292 --> 01:12:13,625 so long as the people who are viewing the work of art... 1250 01:12:13,696 --> 01:12:16,062 have some kind of an experience... 1251 01:12:16,131 --> 01:12:19,066 that helps them to, in some way or other... 1252 01:12:19,134 --> 01:12:23,798 make certain types of, you know, uh, uh, analyses... 1253 01:12:23,872 --> 01:12:27,535 and understandings of how the world is working. 1254 01:12:46,528 --> 01:12:49,929 - [Man] Put your arms around me too. - Everybody loves Shannon. 1255 01:12:50,532 --> 01:12:53,467 - I want a hug, Bill. - Yeah, okay. 1256 01:12:53,535 --> 01:12:56,629 I love you, Bill. Shannon, I want a hug too. 1257 01:12:56,705 --> 01:12:59,196 - Shannon, give me a hug. - [Greaves Chuckling] 1258 01:13:02,378 --> 01:13:04,369 Yeah, hug her! 1259 01:13:06,582 --> 01:13:08,516 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 1260 01:13:08,584 --> 01:13:11,849 What I'm planning to do is, uh... 1261 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,854 having her turn more - 1262 01:13:13,922 --> 01:13:16,482 - Right. I saw that. - So that's -Yeah. That's number one. 1263 01:13:16,558 --> 01:13:22,428 And number two is to try to get her- them to start at a different, uh... 1264 01:13:22,498 --> 01:13:24,898 emotional and psychological level. 1265 01:13:24,967 --> 01:13:27,629 That is to say that she's - 1266 01:13:27,703 --> 01:13:33,198 They're pretending that they're quite happy to be together. 1267 01:13:33,275 --> 01:13:35,709 - They're pretending? - Yeah. At the beginning. 1268 01:13:35,778 --> 01:13:39,475 - Right. - And then only to discover that, uh... 1269 01:13:40,616 --> 01:13:44,017 there's a much more serious thing still going on between them... 1270 01:13:44,086 --> 01:13:48,489 having to do with this whole issue of... 1271 01:13:48,557 --> 01:13:51,685 his wanting her to take on the responsibility... 1272 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,251 of this young woman, this child - 1273 01:13:54,329 --> 01:13:56,854 Not child, but this very talented young woman... 1274 01:13:56,932 --> 01:13:58,866 - Right. - Who has the talent... 1275 01:13:58,934 --> 01:14:04,304 to become a big singer like she is at this time in Europe. 1276 01:14:04,373 --> 01:14:06,637 And so that's - that's, uh - 1277 01:14:06,708 --> 01:14:11,042 that's basically the overall scene. 1278 01:14:11,113 --> 01:14:14,640 Why did you insist that we come here, of all places? 1279 01:14:14,716 --> 01:14:18,550 'Cause I love it here, and I thought it would be easier to talk about it - 1280 01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:20,611 what's going on with me. 1281 01:14:21,824 --> 01:14:23,883 Um... 1282 01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:26,621 the H.I.V. Medication has stopped working... 1283 01:14:26,695 --> 01:14:30,495 and, uh, I started self-medicating. 1284 01:14:30,566 --> 01:14:32,591 So, the chances are - 1285 01:14:32,668 --> 01:14:34,602 What do you mean, self-medicating? 1286 01:14:34,670 --> 01:14:38,162 - I started doing drugs again. - Oh, Jesus. 1287 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,107 I mean - Oh, God. 1288 01:14:41,176 --> 01:14:44,737 Anyway, what I wanted to ask you was - 1289 01:14:44,813 --> 01:14:48,078 - You did what? - Just hear me out. Okay? 1290 01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:52,553 What happened is I got involved with, um, one of my clients. 1291 01:14:52,621 --> 01:14:55,681 She was a woman with H.I.V. And she died. 1292 01:14:55,757 --> 01:14:58,851 She had a daughter, and I promised her when she died... 1293 01:14:58,927 --> 01:15:01,259 that I would take care of her daughter. 1294 01:15:01,330 --> 01:15:04,891 And her daughter's been in a group home. 1295 01:15:05,901 --> 01:15:08,927 And if I die, she's not gonna have anybody. 1296 01:15:09,004 --> 01:15:11,939 Yeah, but what does that have to do with me? 1297 01:15:12,007 --> 01:15:14,271 I'd like for you to meet her... 1298 01:15:14,343 --> 01:15:17,073 just to give - just to see if you - 1299 01:15:17,145 --> 01:15:20,410 To give an estimation of how good her voice is, or what? 1300 01:15:20,482 --> 01:15:23,576 No, just to meet her and see if there's a connection between the two of you. 1301 01:15:23,652 --> 01:15:28,453 - And then? - And if I should die, then she would have a - 1302 01:15:28,524 --> 01:15:30,685 she would have a place to go. 1303 01:15:30,759 --> 01:15:33,990 She'd have a place to go? What do you mean, a place to go? 1304 01:15:34,062 --> 01:15:37,293 - With you. - I would take her back to me - 1305 01:15:37,366 --> 01:15:39,459 - To Europe? - Yeah. 1306 01:15:39,535 --> 01:15:42,470 She sings. She's beautiful. She reminds me of you. 1307 01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,939 - Why didn't you tell me this on the telephone? - I couldn't talk about it on the phone. 1308 01:15:46,008 --> 01:15:48,442 - [Laughing] - Just meet her. 1309 01:15:48,510 --> 01:15:50,910 - I mean - - Just meet her, that's all. 1310 01:15:50,979 --> 01:15:54,847 - [Laughing Continues] - See what you think. 1311 01:15:54,917 --> 01:15:57,249 Really not - 1312 01:15:57,319 --> 01:16:00,584 I mean, I really wish you'd said this to me on the telephone. 1313 01:16:00,656 --> 01:16:03,090 - You would have had my answer. - I couldn't- 1314 01:16:03,158 --> 01:16:05,649 My answer would have been... 1315 01:16:05,727 --> 01:16:07,661 as it is now... 1316 01:16:07,729 --> 01:16:10,027 no. 1317 01:16:10,098 --> 01:16:12,259 Short. No. 1318 01:16:14,036 --> 01:16:16,596 [Greaves] Okay. Okay. 1319 01:16:17,606 --> 01:16:21,508 Um, what - what do you think? 1320 01:16:21,577 --> 01:16:25,240 I mean, all the - all their improvising is great. 1321 01:16:25,314 --> 01:16:27,544 - Yeah. - Um... 1322 01:16:29,718 --> 01:16:31,652 and I just wonder what - 1323 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,951 I mean, what is it that she thinks that he was gonna ask her? 1324 01:16:35,023 --> 01:16:37,457 Oh, and did she say the thing about - 1325 01:16:37,526 --> 01:16:40,495 'Cause what I liked in the script was when he asks him... 1326 01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:43,497 "I'll take care of you. You come to Europe." 1327 01:16:43,565 --> 01:16:46,159 Yeah. When she says that, what - 1328 01:16:46,234 --> 01:16:48,702 'Cause it seems to me - [Clears Throat] 1329 01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:52,763 That she thinks that he's asked her to come here... 1330 01:16:52,841 --> 01:16:55,776 because, uh, maybe he wants to be involved with her again. 1331 01:16:55,844 --> 01:16:57,778 Yeah. 1332 01:16:57,846 --> 01:16:59,780 We were just saying - 1333 01:16:59,848 --> 01:17:02,282 I was just wondering... 1334 01:17:02,351 --> 01:17:04,285 what do you think- 1335 01:17:04,353 --> 01:17:07,083 Why do you think he brought you here? 1336 01:17:07,155 --> 01:17:10,090 I mean, you know- I mean, you've already discussed that- 1337 01:17:10,158 --> 01:17:12,092 that he's- that you- that he's sick. 1338 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,094 - Right? - Yeah. 1339 01:17:14,162 --> 01:17:16,596 But this is something we did on the telephone. 1340 01:17:16,665 --> 01:17:19,998 I know about his illness. I don't know that he's - 1341 01:17:20,068 --> 01:17:23,469 You don't know what, specifically, he's going to talk to you about here. 1342 01:17:23,538 --> 01:17:25,472 No. No. 1343 01:17:25,540 --> 01:17:30,307 And then he tells me about this, um- this, um, drugging- um, doing drugs. 1344 01:17:30,379 --> 01:17:32,313 Right. 1345 01:17:32,381 --> 01:17:35,544 But I sense that that is not "it." 1346 01:17:36,752 --> 01:17:38,879 You know? That it's something else. 1347 01:17:41,556 --> 01:17:45,014 What I was saying to Bill, and what I thought from the script... 1348 01:17:45,093 --> 01:17:47,459 - Yeah? - Is that maybe you think... 1349 01:17:47,529 --> 01:17:51,329 that he wants to get back together with you... 1350 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,894 and that you offered to take him to Europe and to take care of him. 1351 01:17:55,971 --> 01:18:00,670 And so-And maybe that's- that's really appealing to you. 1352 01:18:00,742 --> 01:18:03,006 - Right. - But that's not what he wants. 1353 01:18:03,078 --> 01:18:05,012 Then he drops the adopted child on you. 1354 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,049 - He - It's not what he wants at all. - Right. Exactly. 1355 01:18:08,116 --> 01:18:10,448 [Greaves] The scene... 1356 01:18:10,519 --> 01:18:13,454 has a lot of interesting notes that could be played. 1357 01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:15,513 - Mm-hmm. - You know? 1358 01:18:15,590 --> 01:18:17,524 By you as an actor. 1359 01:18:17,592 --> 01:18:21,528 - Don't you think so? - Yeah. No, I think you two are great together. 1360 01:18:21,596 --> 01:18:23,530 Yeah. 1361 01:18:23,598 --> 01:18:25,532 You know, the self-control interests me. 1362 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,795 Because you have a coming together here... 1363 01:18:27,869 --> 01:18:31,396 that is so weighted with old emotions... 1364 01:18:31,473 --> 01:18:34,442 and how these old emotions trigger things. 1365 01:18:34,509 --> 01:18:36,443 [Greaves] Yeah. 1366 01:18:36,511 --> 01:18:39,446 And the self-control of these people is sometimes a little disconcerting to me... 1367 01:18:39,514 --> 01:18:42,415 because this self-control is so overwhelming. 1368 01:18:42,484 --> 01:18:45,214 I thought- or what I understood- 1369 01:18:45,287 --> 01:18:49,223 was to play more - the subtlety of this. 1370 01:18:49,291 --> 01:18:51,225 - [Greaves] No, I understand. - Yeah? 1371 01:18:51,293 --> 01:18:54,785 But - But you are, uh... 1372 01:18:54,863 --> 01:18:59,562 an Afro-Caribbean woman, you know, in - 1373 01:18:59,634 --> 01:19:04,469 And there's a Latino component to your personality... 1374 01:19:04,539 --> 01:19:07,007 where you-you explode. 1375 01:19:07,075 --> 01:19:09,009 - You know? - [Men Laughing] 1376 01:19:09,077 --> 01:19:12,604 Let's put it this way-Tomorrow when we do this, which we will do... 1377 01:19:12,681 --> 01:19:17,914 let's try to incorporate these elements that are coming not just from me... 1378 01:19:17,986 --> 01:19:21,012 but from Steve and from Jonathan... 1379 01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:23,387 uh, and let's see what happens. 1380 01:19:24,826 --> 01:19:27,386 - Okay, if I see her- - Just-Just see her. 1381 01:19:27,462 --> 01:19:30,954 If I see her- Just -Just a second. 1382 01:19:31,032 --> 01:19:35,093 If I see her and it's only from a distance... 1383 01:19:35,170 --> 01:19:37,229 I'm not interested to get involved. 1384 01:19:37,305 --> 01:19:40,536 Just -Just see - Just have a look. 1385 01:19:42,110 --> 01:19:44,578 - Okay. When? - She's here in the park. 1386 01:19:44,646 --> 01:19:46,773 She's here in the park? 1387 01:19:46,848 --> 01:19:49,840 She's here in the park. We can take a walk. 1388 01:19:51,253 --> 01:19:53,187 From a distance. 1389 01:19:53,255 --> 01:19:57,589 Why don't you just be honest with me and say that you've arranged it, she's here, we're going to see her- 1390 01:19:57,659 --> 01:20:00,594 She's here with her friends. She doesn't even know we're here. 1391 01:20:00,662 --> 01:20:04,098 She doesn't know we're here, so there's no big deal. She's not gonna see us. 1392 01:20:04,166 --> 01:20:06,100 - Yeah? - That's true. 1393 01:20:06,168 --> 01:20:09,103 - Yeah, good. - Okay? We can just walk and - From a distance. 1394 01:20:09,171 --> 01:20:11,264 - Where? - Come. 1395 01:20:15,877 --> 01:20:18,812 - [Sighs] - You arranged it all. 1396 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,316 No, I didn't. I didn't. Really, I didn't. 1397 01:20:22,384 --> 01:20:24,318 Yeah, but how - 1398 01:20:24,386 --> 01:20:28,584 Is this really such a coincidence that she is in the park on the same day when - 1399 01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:31,592 - She comes here with - - I've been such a long time in Europe - 1400 01:20:31,660 --> 01:20:34,891 She comes here with her friends, you know. That's all. 1401 01:20:34,963 --> 01:20:37,295 I don't believe this. 1402 01:20:43,171 --> 01:20:45,571 - [Greaves] We pick them up after they- - Hello. 1403 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,074 - I've been waiting for you. - [Shannon] You have? 1404 01:20:48,143 --> 01:20:50,077 I have. I've been waiting for both of you. 1405 01:20:50,145 --> 01:20:52,113 - You've been waiting for us? - I have. 1406 01:20:52,180 --> 01:20:56,378 Hello. [Kisses] I've been waiting for the two of you. 1407 01:20:56,451 --> 01:20:59,386 - Thirty-five years I've been waiting. - [Shannon Chuckles] 1408 01:20:59,454 --> 01:21:02,389 - That's a long wait. - I'm gonna work with you again. 1409 01:21:02,457 --> 01:21:04,982 - Again? - I am. We're gonna do psychodrama. 1410 01:21:05,060 --> 01:21:06,994 - I remember. Good. - Come on. 1411 01:21:07,062 --> 01:21:09,326 - Sorry, but I don't. - You don't remember? 1412 01:21:09,397 --> 01:21:11,831 - No. - We did - Do you remember? 1413 01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:14,494 - Yeah, of course. - We did psychodrama. 1414 01:21:14,569 --> 01:21:19,006 When we -When we enhance the characterization... 1415 01:21:19,074 --> 01:21:21,804 and we dug for the jewels... 1416 01:21:21,877 --> 01:21:25,313 in moments when the jewels weren't forthcoming. 1417 01:21:25,380 --> 01:21:29,373 [Crowd Chattering, Cheering] 1418 01:21:33,655 --> 01:21:36,647 [Cheering, Chattering Continues] 1419 01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:41,995 Oh, it's magic. 1420 01:21:42,063 --> 01:21:44,156 Oh. 1421 01:21:44,232 --> 01:21:46,496 It's magic. 1422 01:21:46,568 --> 01:21:49,298 Well, isn't that just... 1423 01:21:49,371 --> 01:21:51,362 interesting. 1424 01:21:58,780 --> 01:22:03,274 We're going to talk about psychodrama as a tool for the actor... 1425 01:22:03,351 --> 01:22:06,286 in enhancing the characterization. 1426 01:22:06,354 --> 01:22:09,255 For example, the line you had just this morning... 1427 01:22:09,324 --> 01:22:11,485 saying, "No, no, no." 1428 01:22:11,559 --> 01:22:14,494 And you really- We wanted you to get enraged. 1429 01:22:14,562 --> 01:22:16,496 Mm-hmm. 1430 01:22:16,564 --> 01:22:19,499 And it was very slowly creeping into your voice. 1431 01:22:19,567 --> 01:22:23,560 It's just that in psychodrama we can get to that jewel quicker... 1432 01:22:23,638 --> 01:22:26,869 by having, perhaps, a double - somebody be you with you - 1433 01:22:26,942 --> 01:22:29,502 to go to the unspeakable feelings. 1434 01:22:29,577 --> 01:22:31,511 - Let's do it. - Let's do it. 1435 01:22:31,579 --> 01:22:35,515 - Let's do it. - Let's walk around and talk about it a minute. 1436 01:22:35,583 --> 01:22:37,517 Let me get between you. 1437 01:22:37,585 --> 01:22:40,019 [Voice Echoing] And there were other moments. 1438 01:22:40,088 --> 01:22:43,421 For example, I think... 1439 01:22:43,491 --> 01:22:45,425 - you, Shannon- - Mm-hmm? 1440 01:22:45,493 --> 01:22:47,427 Are not saying in the script- 1441 01:22:47,495 --> 01:22:51,932 You're telling her she should be the stepmother, in a way... 1442 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,934 - Right. - ToJamilla. 1443 01:22:54,002 --> 01:22:58,598 But what you're not saying is, I want to be a father to your mother. 1444 01:22:58,673 --> 01:23:01,870 I want to have the chance I never had before. 1445 01:23:03,044 --> 01:23:06,172 - It's - It's probably true. - I think it's probably true. 1446 01:23:06,247 --> 01:23:08,181 [Echoing Stops] What do you say? 1447 01:23:08,249 --> 01:23:11,184 [Audrey] Um, I don't know in which direction this is all going. 1448 01:23:11,252 --> 01:23:13,379 - I don't understand it. - Just follow it. Just follow it. 1449 01:23:13,455 --> 01:23:16,185 - I'm him. I'm him. - Right. Right. 1450 01:23:16,257 --> 01:23:18,191 So I say to you... 1451 01:23:18,259 --> 01:23:22,252 I, Shannon, do not want to sever the connection that we've got. 1452 01:23:23,431 --> 01:23:25,695 - So what are you gonna say to - - That's the underlying - 1453 01:23:25,767 --> 01:23:28,930 Yeah. Just respond to it as if I were Shannon. 1454 01:23:30,205 --> 01:23:33,504 - Yeah, but I don't either. - Well, that's what you say then. 1455 01:23:33,575 --> 01:23:37,671 - [Shannon] That's what she just said. - I don't either. I don't want to sever the connection. 1456 01:23:37,746 --> 01:23:40,146 - Right. - Look, we've gotJamilla... 1457 01:23:40,215 --> 01:23:42,149 as a possibility. 1458 01:23:42,217 --> 01:23:45,653 You and I could be parents to that child. That's why I'm asking you. 1459 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,348 - That's the whole point. - That's the whole point. 1460 01:23:48,423 --> 01:23:52,086 That's why I asked you all the way over here from - 1461 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,287 - Germany? - From Germany. 1462 01:23:54,362 --> 01:23:56,557 - Do you believe that? - Do you? 1463 01:23:56,631 --> 01:23:58,758 No, she doesn't believe that. 1464 01:23:58,833 --> 01:24:01,233 Okay, now I'm gonna double her. Okay? 1465 01:24:01,302 --> 01:24:04,203 And I'm gonna be her. So you respond to both of us. 1466 01:24:04,272 --> 01:24:06,206 Right. 1467 01:24:06,274 --> 01:24:08,242 We're not convinced because - 1468 01:24:08,309 --> 01:24:10,573 We're not convinced... 1469 01:24:10,645 --> 01:24:12,636 because... 1470 01:24:14,049 --> 01:24:18,418 I know this man from before, and whatever-what he says - 1471 01:24:18,486 --> 01:24:20,920 - Tell him. - I know you from before. 1472 01:24:20,989 --> 01:24:23,924 - How long ago - - And I wanted a child with you - 1473 01:24:23,992 --> 01:24:26,552 Just shut up. How long ago from before? 1474 01:24:26,628 --> 01:24:30,064 - Thirty-five years. - Okay, 35 years ago is a long time ago. 1475 01:24:30,131 --> 01:24:32,065 - Thirty-five years! - Shut up. 1476 01:24:32,133 --> 01:24:34,397 - Wait a minute - - Don't tell me to shut up! 1477 01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:36,403 - Just a second. - Thirty-five years ago. 1478 01:24:36,471 --> 01:24:39,406 Thirty-five years, but it's - We're having a continuous... 1479 01:24:39,474 --> 01:24:42,409 - [Marcia] Continuous. - Uh, on the telephone. 1480 01:24:42,477 --> 01:24:45,412 Do you think anything's happened in 35 years? 1481 01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:47,414 - Of course. - Well? So? 1482 01:24:47,482 --> 01:24:49,916 - But I don't believe you! - Why don't you shut up. 1483 01:24:49,984 --> 01:24:52,919 - You don't think I've changed? - Of course you have. 1484 01:24:52,987 --> 01:24:54,978 Shut up! 1485 01:24:56,157 --> 01:24:59,024 - Yes. - Okay. That's the whole point. 1486 01:24:59,094 --> 01:25:02,029 - What is the whole point? - That people have changed. 1487 01:25:02,097 --> 01:25:05,726 You keep going back, hearkening back to 35 years ago - 1488 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,236 If you stay back in 35 years ago, then you're g -You know, you're - 1489 01:25:09,304 --> 01:25:12,034 - You're gonna make me look after her- - And he's -And he's - 1490 01:25:12,107 --> 01:25:14,041 - Tell him! - And you're still alive. 1491 01:25:14,109 --> 01:25:16,043 - Yeah. Right. - You're still alive. 1492 01:25:16,111 --> 01:25:18,204 - Shut up. - You are still alive. 1493 01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:21,214 - And you're going to dump this woman on me. - On me! 1494 01:25:21,282 --> 01:25:23,273 - That's what you're afraid of? - [Audrey, Marcia] Yes! 1495 01:25:23,351 --> 01:25:25,285 - Oh. Okay. - Yes. 1496 01:25:25,353 --> 01:25:28,186 So we'll make a written agreement. Okay? 1497 01:25:28,256 --> 01:25:31,089 Something written, something very formal... 1498 01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:34,094 where we're both responsible for the welfare of this child. 1499 01:25:34,162 --> 01:25:37,222 - Okay? - Well, I'd feel more comfortable with that. 1500 01:25:37,298 --> 01:25:38,230 - There you go. - Role reverse. Okay? 1501 01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:41,734 - I've heard a lot of these promises. - Stop a minute. 1502 01:25:41,803 --> 01:25:44,738 - What? You haven't heard bullshit. - Stop a minute. Stop! Stop! 1503 01:25:44,806 --> 01:25:46,740 - That's a lie. - Freddie. 1504 01:25:46,808 --> 01:25:48,742 - That's a lie. - That's a lie? 1505 01:25:48,810 --> 01:25:51,973 - Yeah, it is a lie. - You promised me the earth, Freddie! 1506 01:25:52,046 --> 01:25:54,981 - You promised me the earth! - You're an asshole. 1507 01:25:55,049 --> 01:25:56,983 - What? - You are an asshole. 1508 01:25:57,051 --> 01:25:59,986 You have no idea what you're talking about. She knows what we're talking about. 1509 01:26:00,054 --> 01:26:02,989 She knows I've given her plenty. Come on. Don't bullshit me. 1510 01:26:03,057 --> 01:26:04,991 Are you Freddie now, or what? 1511 01:26:05,059 --> 01:26:06,993 No. 1512 01:26:07,061 --> 01:26:10,121 - Yeah, then we have a problem. - We have a problem. 1513 01:26:10,198 --> 01:26:13,292 Because I'm dealing with Freddie the whole time, and you're - 1514 01:26:13,368 --> 01:26:16,633 I'm dealing with the reality of the moment, which is- 1515 01:26:16,704 --> 01:26:20,868 - The reality of the moment - - The moment is, things have changed in 35 years. 1516 01:26:20,942 --> 01:26:22,876 - Okay? - Of course. Of course. 1517 01:26:22,944 --> 01:26:25,310 Freddie changed. Freddie grows up in 35 years. 1518 01:26:25,380 --> 01:26:27,314 - Right. - Okay? That's what happens with people. 1519 01:26:27,382 --> 01:26:29,316 - So did I. - Yeah, but everybody changes. 1520 01:26:29,384 --> 01:26:32,820 That's what I'm - So I'm asking you to see what's happening in the here and now. 1521 01:26:32,887 --> 01:26:34,821 That's all I'm asking you to do. 1522 01:26:34,889 --> 01:26:37,983 But the method - the system is the same. 1523 01:26:38,059 --> 01:26:40,425 - Nothing has changed. - Has changed! 1524 01:26:40,495 --> 01:26:43,931 - Well, if nothing has - if nothing has ch - - And how you were 35 years ago... 1525 01:26:43,998 --> 01:26:45,932 is how you are 35 years later. 1526 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,934 That's what you see? 1527 01:26:48,002 --> 01:26:50,436 - The method -The system in which you - - No, no, no, no. 1528 01:26:50,505 --> 01:26:53,941 - I'm asking you, is that what you see? - From the evidence that you've given me, yes. 1529 01:26:54,008 --> 01:26:57,944 - What's the evidence? - From how you tell me about this child. 1530 01:26:58,012 --> 01:27:00,947 You could have done this on the telephone, but you didn't. 1531 01:27:01,015 --> 01:27:03,950 I feel scared in my soul! I feel scared! 1532 01:27:04,018 --> 01:27:06,953 - I thought you were dying - - Now, just a minute. This asshole - 1533 01:27:07,021 --> 01:27:10,479 - I thought you were dying. That's why I came over. - No, you didn't. 1534 01:27:10,558 --> 01:27:13,152 You did not think that. Come on. You thought I was sick. 1535 01:27:13,228 --> 01:27:16,322 - You sounded, on the telephone - - I told you I was sick. 1536 01:27:16,397 --> 01:27:18,831 Yes! Why do you think I came? 1537 01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:20,834 - She's just - - You think I came - 1538 01:27:20,902 --> 01:27:23,336 - You know, you've got - - Go on, tell him. Tell him. 1539 01:27:23,404 --> 01:27:26,862 - You think I came because ofher? I came because of you.! - You've got such a fucking mouth. 1540 01:27:26,941 --> 01:27:28,875 Somebody should smack your mouth. 1541 01:27:28,943 --> 01:27:32,435 - Are you Freddie in this moment? - In this moment? Yeah. Thirty-five years later. 1542 01:27:32,513 --> 01:27:34,447 - Good. - I came 'cause you were ill. 1543 01:27:34,515 --> 01:27:36,449 Shut the fuck up.! What? 1544 01:27:36,517 --> 01:27:38,917 - So, I came here - - Right. 1545 01:27:38,987 --> 01:27:40,921 Because you needed me. 1546 01:27:40,989 --> 01:27:42,923 Right. 1547 01:27:42,991 --> 01:27:44,925 - You - - Shut the fuck up, I said.! 1548 01:27:44,993 --> 01:27:46,927 No! I came because of you! 1549 01:27:46,995 --> 01:27:48,929 - Hey, hey, hey. - Come on - Come on - 1550 01:27:48,997 --> 01:27:51,932 I can't take this kind of bullshit. This is too much. 1551 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,094 I don't like it when people get upset. I can't stand it. 1552 01:27:55,169 --> 01:27:58,332 I'm not doing it. This is ridiculous. 1553 01:27:58,406 --> 01:28:01,466 I hate it when everybody gets - I hate it. 1554 01:28:02,477 --> 01:28:04,707 Gonna sit down here and sulk. 1555 01:28:06,347 --> 01:28:09,077 [Marcia] And what are your feelings about it all these years later? 1556 01:28:09,150 --> 01:28:11,084 You wanted that baby. 1557 01:28:11,152 --> 01:28:13,086 I wanted that child. 1558 01:28:13,154 --> 01:28:15,918 You know I wanted that child. 1559 01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:19,016 - [Freddie] Why? Why did you want a child? - You said - 1560 01:28:19,093 --> 01:28:23,029 What do you mean, why did I want a child? I had a child growing on the inside of me. 1561 01:28:23,097 --> 01:28:25,827 - Yeah, but you were - - I wanted to have this baby. 1562 01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:27,834 - Why? - Because that's a life. 1563 01:28:27,902 --> 01:28:29,836 [Scoffs] 1564 01:28:29,904 --> 01:28:32,737 That's exactly what you did 30-some years ago. 1565 01:28:32,807 --> 01:28:34,741 [Imitates Scoff] 1566 01:28:34,809 --> 01:28:36,743 This is my body. 1567 01:28:36,811 --> 01:28:39,746 When I -When I abort... 1568 01:28:39,814 --> 01:28:43,409 I aborted something inside of me as well. 1569 01:28:44,552 --> 01:28:49,455 - Now you're telling me, "Oh, she's such a nice girl. - No, I'm not telling - 1570 01:28:49,524 --> 01:28:52,721 Come and take her and bring her with you to Europe." 1571 01:28:52,794 --> 01:28:54,728 - Hang on a minute. - What? 1572 01:28:54,796 --> 01:28:57,697 - But hang on a minute. - What? 1573 01:28:57,765 --> 01:29:00,495 - He's offering you - - What is he offering me? 1574 01:29:00,568 --> 01:29:02,502 - What are you offering? - No. 1575 01:29:02,570 --> 01:29:05,505 A full-grown woman for a child of my own? 1576 01:29:05,573 --> 01:29:09,509 Listen to him. Listen. Just listen. Be open. 1577 01:29:09,577 --> 01:29:12,944 - It's easy for you to talk. - No, why-why should she be open? 1578 01:29:13,014 --> 01:29:17,280 Because you're offering her something of you in this child. 1579 01:29:17,352 --> 01:29:21,880 So? Maybe she's - Maybe she just - You don't know -You don't -You don't know - 1580 01:29:21,956 --> 01:29:24,083 She's shut down already. 1581 01:29:24,158 --> 01:29:28,094 She's got a career. She's a successful actress. She's got a singing career. 1582 01:29:28,162 --> 01:29:31,825 She's got everything she wants. Why should she want to share herself with anything? 1583 01:29:31,899 --> 01:29:36,268 Exactly. Why did you drag me here to tell me this bullshit? 1584 01:29:36,337 --> 01:29:39,204 - [Freddie] That's right. It is bullshit. Right? - Absolutely. 1585 01:29:39,273 --> 01:29:41,207 [Freddie Laughing] 1586 01:29:41,275 --> 01:29:44,267 You know, all these years I thought I was wrong. 1587 01:29:44,345 --> 01:29:47,280 I thought, you know, I did something really bad... 1588 01:29:47,348 --> 01:29:50,283 that you wanted this baby, that you wanted this chi - 1589 01:29:50,351 --> 01:29:53,286 - That is a bloody- - Hold it a minute! Hold it a minute! 1590 01:29:53,354 --> 01:29:56,289 - I thought I was wrong! - Don't you shout at me. 1591 01:29:56,357 --> 01:30:00,851 Yes, I will, because you have blamed me for 35 years! 1592 01:30:00,928 --> 01:30:02,862 - You asshole.! - Yes, you have! 1593 01:30:02,930 --> 01:30:05,160 - Asshole! - You blame me.! 1594 01:30:05,233 --> 01:30:08,828 There are women everywhere - they have their babies... 1595 01:30:08,903 --> 01:30:10,996 and they still have their profession! 1596 01:30:11,072 --> 01:30:14,906 - You know what? - Don't you talk to me, you stupid - 1597 01:30:14,976 --> 01:30:16,910 - Cut! Cut. - [Freddie] Bullshit! 1598 01:30:16,978 --> 01:30:19,412 Cut. 1599 01:30:19,480 --> 01:30:21,744 Cut. That's - 1600 01:30:21,816 --> 01:30:24,284 Um, now, then... 1601 01:30:24,352 --> 01:30:26,343 um... 1602 01:30:28,689 --> 01:30:32,147 I think that at this point - 1603 01:30:32,226 --> 01:30:34,251 I think, at this point... 1604 01:30:34,328 --> 01:30:36,421 um, if you sync - 1605 01:30:36,497 --> 01:30:39,432 - [Marcia] We can sit down? - You can sit down. 1606 01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:41,434 [Marcia] Yeah? Talk about it again. 1607 01:30:41,502 --> 01:30:45,438 Um, you sit down next to her. 1608 01:30:45,506 --> 01:30:49,135 - [Greaves] Are you ready to go back to the script? Huh? - [Shannon] Whatever you want. 1609 01:30:49,210 --> 01:30:51,542 [Greaves] I think we'd better go back to the script. 1610 01:30:51,612 --> 01:30:53,876 - Because it's getting too physical. - I think- I think- 1611 01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:56,883 - Go ahead. - I think you're wanting to give her something. 1612 01:30:56,951 --> 01:30:59,886 I think all you're wanting is her tenderness back. 1613 01:30:59,954 --> 01:31:03,515 Audrey? Audrey? Can you come here a second? 1614 01:31:03,591 --> 01:31:06,287 But I think what's true - what he says - 1615 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,295 I'm trying to give you something by giving you this girl. 1616 01:31:09,363 --> 01:31:13,299 I think that's true. He's trying to give you something by giving you this Jamilla. 1617 01:31:13,367 --> 01:31:16,302 Yeah, but I don't want to be put under such pressure. 1618 01:31:16,370 --> 01:31:20,306 This is too much pressure. This is not helping me at all. 1619 01:31:20,374 --> 01:31:22,308 [Marcia] Okay, so let's go back to the script. 1620 01:31:22,376 --> 01:31:24,310 Because Alice is not a crybaby. 1621 01:31:24,378 --> 01:31:28,678 Alice wants to be able to come into - 1622 01:31:28,749 --> 01:31:31,013 to make a decision at her speed. 1623 01:31:31,085 --> 01:31:34,646 [Marcia] At her speed. Yeah. Okay. 1624 01:31:34,722 --> 01:31:37,657 She's a very independent woman, and she wants to be able to say... 1625 01:31:37,725 --> 01:31:41,923 "Okay, let me start now making a few steps in this direction." 1626 01:31:41,996 --> 01:31:45,523 My way. My way. Not your way. Yeah. Absolutely. 1627 01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,091 Because it's like- [Groans] 1628 01:31:48,169 --> 01:31:51,104 - [Marcia] Right. Right. Right. - Alice doesn't need that. 1629 01:31:51,172 --> 01:31:53,800 [Marcia] But you need the freedom to make the decision. 1630 01:31:53,875 --> 01:31:56,776 - [Greaves] How does that sound? - [Shannon] That's fine. 1631 01:31:56,844 --> 01:31:59,836 [Greaves] That's wonderful. Good. Terrific. 1632 01:31:59,914 --> 01:32:03,008 How would it be if they started it off with just a hug? 1633 01:32:03,084 --> 01:32:05,484 - Okay? - What are we starting from? 1634 01:32:05,553 --> 01:32:08,488 An improvisation, or are we going back to the text? 1635 01:32:08,556 --> 01:32:12,014 You're going back to the text. 1636 01:32:12,093 --> 01:32:14,721 [Marcia] I'll get it again. I'll get it. 1637 01:32:14,795 --> 01:32:18,822 I think that would be - that would be a very, uh... 1638 01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:21,960 good entry point... 1639 01:32:22,036 --> 01:32:25,028 to get back into the text. 1640 01:32:25,106 --> 01:32:28,439 - Let's see. - Whoops. Oh, sorry. Okay. 1641 01:32:28,509 --> 01:32:30,500 Here's the top one. 1642 01:32:31,646 --> 01:32:34,581 [Greaves] "Why should I be -" Dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah. 1643 01:32:34,649 --> 01:32:39,313 - Now, Freddie, will you remember these lines? - Mm-hmm. 1644 01:32:40,421 --> 01:32:43,356 - Will you be remembering - - Freddie, you're amazing. 1645 01:32:43,424 --> 01:32:46,484 She's lovely. She reminds me of you. 1646 01:32:46,561 --> 01:32:48,529 - Good! - [Marcia] Lovely. Beautiful. 1647 01:32:48,596 --> 01:32:50,860 Wonderful! Shit, that's wonderful! 1648 01:32:50,932 --> 01:32:53,992 - [Marcia] Beautiful. Come on, let's go. - Keep going. 1649 01:32:58,172 --> 01:33:00,106 I mean, really- 1650 01:33:00,174 --> 01:33:02,108 [Both Laughing] 1651 01:33:02,176 --> 01:33:05,111 - [Man] You out? - I'm sorry. 1652 01:33:05,179 --> 01:33:08,615 I'm sorry I was so - 1653 01:33:08,683 --> 01:33:11,379 You know, but, God - 1654 01:33:13,721 --> 01:33:16,690 - You're asking a lot. - I know. 1655 01:33:16,757 --> 01:33:18,748 Give her a chance. 1656 01:33:24,065 --> 01:33:29,059 How do you know I'd even be interested? How do you know this? 1657 01:33:29,136 --> 01:33:31,263 I don't know. I know you. 1658 01:33:31,339 --> 01:33:33,273 You're wonderful. 1659 01:33:33,341 --> 01:33:35,332 [Laughs] You are. 1660 01:33:35,409 --> 01:33:37,468 Why don't you just see her? 1661 01:33:39,914 --> 01:33:41,905 What? 1662 01:33:43,117 --> 01:33:45,051 [Kisses] 1663 01:33:45,119 --> 01:33:47,110 Hmm? 1664 01:33:48,222 --> 01:33:50,986 What's her name? 1665 01:33:51,058 --> 01:33:53,049 Her name is Jamilla. 1666 01:34:02,937 --> 01:34:05,132 What if she doesn't like me? 1667 01:34:06,774 --> 01:34:08,708 Then we'll - 1668 01:34:08,776 --> 01:34:10,710 we'll call the whole thing off. 1669 01:34:10,778 --> 01:34:12,769 But she'll love you. 1670 01:34:15,249 --> 01:34:18,412 She can - She sees you through my eyes already. 1671 01:34:21,589 --> 01:34:23,989 I told her a little bit about you. 1672 01:34:24,058 --> 01:34:26,993 - Oh, Freddie! - She wanted to know - 1673 01:34:27,061 --> 01:34:30,519 She wanted to know who I was married to. 1674 01:34:30,598 --> 01:34:35,058 Okay-You know, that's - that's pushing it again. Really. 1675 01:34:35,136 --> 01:34:37,730 [Marathon Spectators Cheering, Shouting, Applauding] 1676 01:34:39,073 --> 01:34:42,440 When people have asked me what the film is about, I say... 1677 01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:45,741 it's a study of the film acting craft... 1678 01:34:45,813 --> 01:34:47,747 as it intersects with real life. 1679 01:34:47,815 --> 01:34:50,750 Now, mostly I say that just to satisfy their curiosity... 1680 01:34:50,818 --> 01:34:53,753 because that satisfies people of various levels of intelligence. 1681 01:34:53,821 --> 01:34:55,948 It's complex-sounding enough to satisfy them... 1682 01:34:56,023 --> 01:34:59,857 and they feel like it's a respectful answer and they're satisfied. 1683 01:34:59,927 --> 01:35:04,330 But in a sense, by locating this thing in a place where something actual is going on... 1684 01:35:04,398 --> 01:35:07,333 - [Cheering, Applauding Continue] - Not only the random potential that we've seen... 1685 01:35:07,401 --> 01:35:10,700 which would be - which is any huge public space like this... 1686 01:35:10,771 --> 01:35:13,205 but the specific activity of a marathon... 1687 01:35:13,274 --> 01:35:16,209 when, really, people's consciousness is devoted to the marathon- 1688 01:35:16,277 --> 01:35:19,212 We are a very, very small part of what's going on in New York today. 1689 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:22,215 Uh, to locate us in such a huge event... 1690 01:35:22,283 --> 01:35:25,218 with the public consciousness so hugely focused on something else... 1691 01:35:25,286 --> 01:35:28,813 is also a way of intersecting this little project with something much larger than ourselves... 1692 01:35:28,889 --> 01:35:30,880 and something that's completely real. 1693 01:35:30,958 --> 01:35:32,892 - Hey. - Hi. How are you? 1694 01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,986 - This is Alice. - Hi. Nice to meet you. 1695 01:35:36,063 --> 01:35:37,997 Hi. 1696 01:35:38,065 --> 01:35:39,999 - What's your name? - Ade. 1697 01:35:40,067 --> 01:35:43,161 - Ade? Ade's your real name? - [Greaves] Cut.! Cut.! 1698 01:35:43,237 --> 01:35:45,137 - Cut.! Cut.! - I'm sorry! 1699 01:35:45,206 --> 01:35:47,265 - It's Jamilla. - I thought that- 1700 01:35:47,341 --> 01:35:49,502 I'm sorry! [Laughing] 1701 01:35:49,577 --> 01:35:51,511 Jamilla, Jamilla, Jamilla. 1702 01:35:51,579 --> 01:35:55,345 You don't come out to meet them. You just sit there, and then you come out. 1703 01:35:55,416 --> 01:35:58,579 - Come on, let's do it again. - All right, this is take two. 1704 01:35:58,652 --> 01:36:01,712 - [Audrey] Good idea. - [Cheering, Applauding Continue] 1705 01:36:04,792 --> 01:36:06,726 [Radio Beeps] 1706 01:36:06,794 --> 01:36:10,662 10-4-K. We have a film crew here from William Greaves Productions. 1707 01:36:10,731 --> 01:36:13,666 They have a mayor's office permit. 1708 01:36:13,734 --> 01:36:17,170 They do not have a parks department permit for the filming. 1709 01:36:17,238 --> 01:36:20,537 Uh, but they are mentioning a contact person. Okay? 1710 01:36:20,608 --> 01:36:23,304 - Can you give me that name again, please? - Dana Waites. 1711 01:36:23,377 --> 01:36:25,311 [Radio Beeps] 1712 01:36:25,379 --> 01:36:27,313 10-6-K. 1713 01:36:27,381 --> 01:36:30,578 - Where, exactly, were you looking to go? - Strawberry Fields. 1714 01:36:30,651 --> 01:36:33,313 Okay, Strawberry Fields is totally sealed off. 1715 01:36:33,387 --> 01:36:35,321 - Really? - [Woman] Until when? 1716 01:36:35,389 --> 01:36:39,257 - Until the end of this marathon. - Until the end of the marathon? 1717 01:36:39,326 --> 01:36:42,318 [Cheering, Applauding Continue] 1718 01:36:55,876 --> 01:36:58,367 [No Audible Dialogue] 1719 01:37:11,325 --> 01:37:14,317 - [Cheering, Applauding Continue] - [Faint] Where do you come from? 1720 01:37:16,263 --> 01:37:18,788 [No Audible Dialogue] 1721 01:37:29,376 --> 01:37:32,868 - [No Audible Dialogue] - [Cheering, Applauding Continue] 155019

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