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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,741 --> 00:00:34,781 I have discovered a significant part 2 00:00:34,826 --> 00:00:37,246 of Trump's appeal. 3 00:00:37,287 --> 00:00:40,417 In particular, I think I finally understand 4 00:00:40,457 --> 00:00:44,247 how he is supported because of his flaws, 5 00:00:44,294 --> 00:00:46,714 rather than in spite of them. 6 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:50,425 How are all the things I find despicable in him not merely 7 00:00:50,467 --> 00:00:53,547 things that people are willing to overlook, 8 00:00:53,595 --> 00:00:56,555 but reasons in and of themselves 9 00:00:56,598 --> 00:00:59,058 why people support him? 10 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:01,520 One thing that Trump never communicates, 11 00:01:01,561 --> 00:01:04,731 and cannot possibly communicate, 12 00:01:04,773 --> 00:01:08,573 is a sense of his moral superiority. 13 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:10,240 And votes still being tallied... 14 00:01:10,278 --> 00:01:13,698 Because he is never really judging you. 15 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:16,660 He can't possibly judge you. 16 00:01:16,701 --> 00:01:20,911 He offers a truly safe space for human frailty 17 00:01:20,955 --> 00:01:23,165 and hypocrisy and self-doubt. 18 00:01:25,460 --> 00:01:29,210 He offers what no priest can credibly offer-- 19 00:01:29,255 --> 00:01:34,175 a total expiation of shame. 20 00:01:34,219 --> 00:01:38,469 His personal shamelessness is a kind of spiritual balm. 21 00:01:40,141 --> 00:01:42,521 Trump is fat Jesus. 22 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,610 He's "grab them by the pussy" Jesus. 23 00:01:45,647 --> 00:01:47,107 He's "I'll eat nothing but cheeseburgers 24 00:01:47,148 --> 00:01:49,818 if I want to" Jesus. 25 00:01:49,859 --> 00:01:53,779 He's "go back to your shithole countries" Jesus. 26 00:01:53,822 --> 00:01:56,912 He's "no apologies" Jesus. 27 00:01:56,950 --> 00:02:01,660 And now consider, what are we getting from the left? 28 00:02:01,704 --> 00:02:05,424 We're getting exactly the opposite message-- 29 00:02:05,458 --> 00:02:09,248 pure sanctimony, pure judgment. 30 00:02:09,295 --> 00:02:11,965 You are not good enough. 31 00:02:12,006 --> 00:02:15,386 You're guilty not only for your own sins, 32 00:02:15,426 --> 00:02:18,096 but for the sins of your fathers. 33 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:23,058 The crimes of slavery and colonialism are on your head. 34 00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:26,311 And if you're a cis, white, heterosexual male, 35 00:02:26,354 --> 00:02:28,984 you're a racist, homophobic, 36 00:02:29,023 --> 00:02:32,073 transphobic, Islamophobic, 37 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:34,990 sexist barbarian. 38 00:02:35,029 --> 00:02:38,319 I sincerely hope we rid ourselves of him. 39 00:02:38,366 --> 00:02:40,156 But I believe I now understand the half 40 00:02:40,201 --> 00:02:42,081 of the country that disagrees with me 41 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,000 a little better than I did yesterday. 42 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:47,629 And this makes me less confused and judgmental, 43 00:02:47,667 --> 00:02:50,337 less of an asshole, probably, 44 00:02:50,378 --> 00:02:53,338 which is always progress. 45 00:03:06,895 --> 00:03:08,935 How you feeling, boss? 46 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:10,730 Good. I'm one. 47 00:03:14,485 --> 00:03:17,605 I was just talking to his sister. 48 00:03:17,655 --> 00:03:20,365 And I was like, "You got it." She's like, "I'm Irish." 49 00:03:20,408 --> 00:03:23,078 I'm like, "I get it. You got it." 50 00:03:23,119 --> 00:03:26,039 He should be at 270 by one o'clock, hmm? 51 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Yeah, it'd be this evening at the latest. 52 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:29,711 Yeah. 53 00:03:29,751 --> 00:03:31,841 I think you should start using the Twitter to say... 54 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:33,298 President-elect Biden? 55 00:03:33,338 --> 00:03:36,548 ...like, now, be patient. 56 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:38,301 Votes are being counted. 57 00:03:38,343 --> 00:03:40,973 As those votes count, Joe Biden will be 58 00:03:41,012 --> 00:03:42,812 elected president of the United States, 59 00:03:42,847 --> 00:03:46,387 just over and over again. 60 00:03:46,434 --> 00:03:47,734 He said from day one that 61 00:03:47,769 --> 00:03:49,559 this is going to take time. 62 00:03:49,604 --> 00:03:51,734 We want to make sure that every vote is counted. 63 00:03:51,773 --> 00:03:53,363 And if I could jump in one more time, 64 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:54,569 because in the words of the president, 65 00:03:54,609 --> 00:03:55,859 there's all this talk about, you know, 66 00:03:55,902 --> 00:03:56,902 nefarious things are happening... 67 00:03:56,945 --> 00:03:59,735 This is crazy. 68 00:03:59,781 --> 00:04:03,581 The amount of missed opportunities here, not great. 69 00:04:03,618 --> 00:04:05,748 Didn't get Montana, didn't get Alaska, 70 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:07,747 didn't get South Carolina. 71 00:04:07,789 --> 00:04:09,079 All of them. 72 00:04:09,123 --> 00:04:12,213 We got killed in Iowa. 73 00:04:12,252 --> 00:04:14,592 That's uncomfortable to sit with. 74 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:15,879 It's not what we tell ourselves 75 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:18,132 about ourselves, right? 76 00:04:18,174 --> 00:04:19,764 ...all come down to your 11 electoral votes 77 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:21,391 in the state of Arizona. 78 00:04:21,427 --> 00:04:23,297 Kim Law says we'll get votes later tonight. 79 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:25,216 Do you feel any pressure on your... 80 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:27,845 I think we all expected to be celebrating 81 00:04:27,892 --> 00:04:30,772 and to be wildly hung over today, and none of us were. 82 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:32,272 Right, we want to make sure 83 00:04:32,313 --> 00:04:33,613 that every vote is counted, and that... 84 00:04:33,648 --> 00:04:35,108 I mean, our country clearly has 85 00:04:35,149 --> 00:04:38,359 an affinity towards racism, misogyny, and sexism, 86 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:42,203 homophobia, fascism. 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,450 So now it's just coming to grips with that. 88 00:04:48,621 --> 00:04:50,121 You can no longer use the phrase, 89 00:04:50,164 --> 00:04:51,624 this is not who we are. 90 00:04:53,793 --> 00:04:55,303 Yeah, it is. 91 00:04:57,338 --> 00:04:58,968 Once the dust settles, we have to have 92 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:00,967 a collective reckoning with that. 93 00:05:04,095 --> 00:05:05,755 Please. 94 00:05:06,889 --> 00:05:09,349 Thank you very much, Eric. 95 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:11,312 It is very, very sad that we're here 96 00:05:11,352 --> 00:05:15,612 in the city that's really the birthplace of our democracy. 97 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:20,148 And this is among one of the most anti-democratic things 98 00:05:20,194 --> 00:05:22,204 I've ever seen or encountered. 99 00:05:22,238 --> 00:05:23,738 This whole new thing that never happened before 100 00:05:23,781 --> 00:05:26,701 in our country, these mail-in ballots, 101 00:05:26,743 --> 00:05:28,873 which has been a cause of real concern 102 00:05:28,911 --> 00:05:32,501 for everyone because they can easily be fraudulent. 103 00:05:35,209 --> 00:05:37,419 Oh, here come these ballots. 104 00:05:37,462 --> 00:05:41,672 Well, we have no idea if they really are ballots. 105 00:05:41,716 --> 00:05:43,966 We have no idea if they're signed, 106 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:46,640 if they're postmarked properly, 107 00:05:46,679 --> 00:05:48,309 if it isn't just the same person 108 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:50,848 who submitted 100,000 ballots. 109 00:05:52,518 --> 00:05:54,768 Gee, just about the 700,000 votes 110 00:05:54,812 --> 00:05:58,942 that President Trump was ahead by disappeared. 111 00:05:58,983 --> 00:06:00,113 This is the way they intend to win. 112 00:06:00,151 --> 00:06:01,781 Donald Trump! 113 00:06:01,819 --> 00:06:03,819 But we're not going to let them get away with it. 114 00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:05,573 Stop the count! 115 00:06:05,615 --> 00:06:07,025 Stop the count! 116 00:06:13,623 --> 00:06:16,213 We saw protests across the country erupt. 117 00:06:16,250 --> 00:06:19,170 Protesters took to the streets of Philadelphia, 118 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:22,632 in Pittsburgh as well, in Boston, Arizona, 119 00:06:22,673 --> 00:06:25,053 hoping to stop the vote count. 120 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:26,513 Stop the count! 121 00:06:26,552 --> 00:06:29,222 Stop the count! 122 00:06:29,263 --> 00:06:31,523 If the essence of conservatism 123 00:06:31,557 --> 00:06:33,097 is protecting the Constitution, 124 00:06:33,142 --> 00:06:34,692 this is the most unconservative, 125 00:06:34,727 --> 00:06:36,267 radical act imaginable. 126 00:06:36,312 --> 00:06:38,522 Stuart, like, I'm with you. 127 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:41,074 Like, I've--I was-- 128 00:06:41,109 --> 00:06:42,939 I think it's outrageous. 129 00:06:42,985 --> 00:06:44,395 And it is dangerous. 130 00:06:44,445 --> 00:06:48,315 But we have to project a tone that's not angry. 131 00:06:48,366 --> 00:06:50,736 Our tone needs to be righteous-- 132 00:06:50,785 --> 00:06:51,905 not angry, though. 133 00:06:51,953 --> 00:06:53,873 No one likes a scold. 134 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:55,673 I think we should try to war game a little bit 135 00:06:55,706 --> 00:06:57,746 about what their next step is going to be. 136 00:06:57,792 --> 00:06:59,502 I agree completely. 137 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:01,304 But we need to be careful in assuming that 138 00:07:01,337 --> 00:07:02,797 there's a mandate one way or the other, because I 139 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,299 don't think that's where the voters are at. 140 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:05,970 I think Mike does make a good point, 141 00:07:06,008 --> 00:07:07,638 which is, we should not forget the guy got 142 00:07:07,677 --> 00:07:11,007 70 million fucking votes, right? 143 00:07:11,055 --> 00:07:14,675 And so we should ask ourselves a broader question-- 144 00:07:14,725 --> 00:07:17,595 does half the country care that he's doing this? 145 00:07:17,645 --> 00:07:18,935 No. 146 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:20,570 Do they really care? 147 00:07:20,606 --> 00:07:22,566 Have they decided that they just love him no matter what? 148 00:07:24,569 --> 00:07:26,609 I don't know. I don't know the answer. 149 00:07:30,324 --> 00:07:32,164 We should just assert that, right? 150 00:07:32,201 --> 00:07:34,161 We should condemn them. 151 00:07:34,203 --> 00:07:35,163 Kind of like it. 152 00:07:37,498 --> 00:07:39,418 They want to manipulate this election. 153 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:41,129 They don't care if it's illegal. 154 00:07:41,169 --> 00:07:43,629 And they believe there will be no consequences. 155 00:07:43,671 --> 00:07:45,171 It's over. 156 00:07:45,214 --> 00:07:46,804 Elections have consequences. 157 00:07:46,841 --> 00:07:48,631 Your decisions will too. 158 00:07:57,101 --> 00:07:58,811 I mean, all this stuff about Trump is knowing 159 00:07:58,853 --> 00:08:01,063 that people just don't seem to care that much. 160 00:08:01,105 --> 00:08:03,815 I mean, everything that we said the party was for, 161 00:08:03,858 --> 00:08:06,278 the party now is against. 162 00:08:09,238 --> 00:08:11,528 And you know, I helped elect a lot of these people, 163 00:08:11,574 --> 00:08:13,374 and I've never had one conversation 164 00:08:13,409 --> 00:08:16,369 with one Republican elected official 165 00:08:16,412 --> 00:08:21,082 who tries to pretend that Donald Trump is qualified 166 00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:22,995 to be president--not one. 167 00:08:27,173 --> 00:08:30,303 There's always been this element in America-- 168 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:33,683 crazies, people who believe in conspiracies. 169 00:08:33,721 --> 00:08:36,561 And we needed them to vote for Republicans. 170 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,479 I think it all goes back to this post-war history. 171 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:44,612 So there was always, like, an Eisenhower wing 172 00:08:44,649 --> 00:08:47,149 and a Joe McCarthy wing. 173 00:08:47,193 --> 00:08:49,203 Eisenhower was this sort of governing, 174 00:08:49,237 --> 00:08:51,817 boring, but sensible guy. 175 00:08:51,864 --> 00:08:55,204 America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, 176 00:08:55,243 --> 00:08:59,293 must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate. 177 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:00,790 And then you had a McCarthy wing. 178 00:09:00,831 --> 00:09:05,291 And McCarthy was paranoid, racist, angry. 179 00:09:05,336 --> 00:09:07,836 Our nation may well die. 180 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,340 And I ask you, who caused it? 181 00:09:09,382 --> 00:09:11,182 Was it loyal Americans, 182 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:13,047 or was it traitors in our government? 183 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,969 Political parties have to serve 184 00:09:16,013 --> 00:09:18,023 a circuit breaker function. 185 00:09:18,349 --> 00:09:21,059 And Republicans never pulled the circuit breaker. 186 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:25,612 But I certainly felt that, like, 187 00:09:25,648 --> 00:09:28,688 the crazies were on the wrong side of history, as it were. 188 00:09:28,734 --> 00:09:30,154 We were the dominant gene, 189 00:09:30,194 --> 00:09:31,404 and they were the recessive gene. 190 00:09:34,865 --> 00:09:36,445 But I don't know any conclusion to come to 191 00:09:36,492 --> 00:09:37,492 except we were wrong. 192 00:09:43,165 --> 00:09:44,165 They're all called this morning. 193 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:45,328 Hello? 194 00:09:45,376 --> 00:09:47,126 - Is that Logan? - Hello, Logan. 195 00:09:47,169 --> 00:09:48,629 Hey, Logan. Can you say hi? 196 00:09:48,671 --> 00:09:50,631 Hi. 197 00:09:50,673 --> 00:09:53,093 Look at you walk. Oh, down--he's done. 198 00:09:53,134 --> 00:09:54,934 He's like, "That's enough for me." 199 00:09:54,969 --> 00:09:56,549 Yeah, I just want to talk to you 200 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:58,466 - for a couple of minutes. - Oh, no. What is on your mind? 201 00:09:58,514 --> 00:10:01,274 Talking about last night, with those 23,000, 202 00:10:01,309 --> 00:10:02,519 I wasn't saying it was an entire district. 203 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:03,810 But they've been doing vote dumps. 204 00:10:03,853 --> 00:10:05,563 - Right, right. - Right? 205 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:08,515 123,000 votes came in, all for Biden. 206 00:10:08,566 --> 00:10:10,066 Yeah, I haven't seen that. 207 00:10:10,109 --> 00:10:12,029 I tried to--I tried to find that online. 208 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:14,779 Other than that tweet that you sent me, I haven't seen that. 209 00:10:14,822 --> 00:10:17,072 You know, people saying bullshit about how more people 210 00:10:17,116 --> 00:10:18,776 voted in Wisconsin than are registered 211 00:10:18,826 --> 00:10:20,116 to vote in Wisconsin, which is bullshit 212 00:10:20,161 --> 00:10:21,751 because the 2018 number... 213 00:10:21,787 --> 00:10:23,287 ...and the numbers of the administration-- 214 00:10:23,331 --> 00:10:25,121 James, your language is lovely this morning. 215 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:26,376 Oh. 216 00:10:26,417 --> 00:10:27,787 I mean, I know where you learned it, 217 00:10:27,835 --> 00:10:29,585 and he's making breakfast for me right there. 218 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:31,299 But still, so. 219 00:10:31,339 --> 00:10:32,759 I learned it from you. 220 00:10:32,798 --> 00:10:35,128 He said he learned it from me. 221 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:39,465 All of our sons are-- 222 00:10:39,513 --> 00:10:41,313 I wouldn't call them conspiracy theorists, 223 00:10:41,349 --> 00:10:42,979 but--and our daughter. 224 00:10:43,017 --> 00:10:45,937 But they--they just mistrust what's going on. 225 00:10:45,978 --> 00:10:47,688 And a lot of it is the misinformation 226 00:10:47,730 --> 00:10:49,270 that gets posted. 227 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:52,105 You know, something like 125,000 votes 228 00:10:52,151 --> 00:10:54,111 came in, 100% of them for Biden. 229 00:10:54,153 --> 00:10:55,363 That's not realistic. 230 00:10:55,404 --> 00:10:56,994 Well, because it never happened. 231 00:10:57,031 --> 00:10:59,661 But that's the kind of thing that, 232 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:02,330 you know, people are hearing. 233 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:05,580 There's obviously a lot of questions around the election. 234 00:11:05,623 --> 00:11:08,673 Miscalculations, misrepresentation, 235 00:11:08,709 --> 00:11:10,089 a lot of fraud. 236 00:11:10,127 --> 00:11:12,917 Joe Biden has said that he's going to lock 237 00:11:12,963 --> 00:11:16,593 the United States down forever 238 00:11:16,634 --> 00:11:19,014 under communist reprogramming. 239 00:11:19,053 --> 00:11:20,933 He's voting to raise our taxes. 240 00:11:20,971 --> 00:11:23,601 He wants to open our borders, our borders, 241 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:25,431 and give free health care to everyone. 242 00:11:28,062 --> 00:11:30,272 I was always, myself, knowledgeable about politics. 243 00:11:30,314 --> 00:11:31,824 I don't think I realized how malleable 244 00:11:31,857 --> 00:11:33,357 other people were in real life. 245 00:11:33,401 --> 00:11:35,611 Yeah! 246 00:11:35,653 --> 00:11:36,993 Politicians lie, okay? 247 00:11:37,029 --> 00:11:38,359 They just do. 248 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:40,946 But you know, 249 00:11:40,991 --> 00:11:45,711 in order to win in 2010, 2014, 250 00:11:45,746 --> 00:11:49,376 Republican messengers and political types 251 00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:52,417 sold lies about the country, 252 00:11:52,461 --> 00:11:54,341 spent millions of dollars peddling shit 253 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:57,220 they knew wasn't true-- 254 00:11:57,258 --> 00:12:00,388 that we were on the precipice of socialism, 255 00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:03,008 that, you know, Obama was a communist, 256 00:12:03,055 --> 00:12:05,465 or a socialist, or he was dangerous. 257 00:12:05,516 --> 00:12:07,306 It wasn't a real argument over health care. 258 00:12:07,351 --> 00:12:09,441 It was, this is socialist, and it's communist, 259 00:12:09,478 --> 00:12:11,858 and it's coming for you. 260 00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:14,687 You know, Barack Obama wanted to hurt your family. 261 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:17,494 He's trying to harm you. 262 00:12:17,528 --> 00:12:19,608 These were some of my first jobs. 263 00:12:19,655 --> 00:12:21,735 I'm not going to say I didn't know what I was doing. 264 00:12:21,782 --> 00:12:25,582 I just thought that was how it worked. 265 00:12:25,619 --> 00:12:29,369 Then they'd win, and they'd kind of all 266 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:31,035 high five each other, 267 00:12:31,083 --> 00:12:32,923 and I think the consultant class, in particular, 268 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,050 would just forget that they had actually convinced people 269 00:12:36,088 --> 00:12:38,088 of something--that they hadn't just won the election, 270 00:12:38,132 --> 00:12:39,592 but that--that they had 271 00:12:39,633 --> 00:12:41,183 altered a person's state of mind 272 00:12:41,218 --> 00:12:42,718 about the country they've been living in. 273 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:44,262 He's not your friend. 274 00:12:44,305 --> 00:12:46,215 USA! USA! 275 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:48,765 People who have more resources 276 00:12:48,809 --> 00:12:51,439 have convinced them of something that isn't true. 277 00:12:51,479 --> 00:12:53,769 USA! 278 00:12:56,942 --> 00:12:58,322 Yeah, the recount stuff-- 279 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,070 I mean, Pennsylvania is probably 280 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:02,032 going to swing into view here by the end of the week. 281 00:13:02,072 --> 00:13:03,742 President Trump's already calling 282 00:13:03,783 --> 00:13:06,243 some legal case there too. 283 00:13:06,285 --> 00:13:07,905 Yeah, well, he's going to do it everywhere. 284 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:09,873 - Yeah. What? - Can I have one? 285 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:10,964 Why don't you say please? 286 00:13:10,998 --> 00:13:12,708 Can you give me a second? 287 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:14,170 One second, Reed. 288 00:13:14,210 --> 00:13:15,500 One second, Reed. 289 00:13:15,544 --> 00:13:18,014 Hey, buddy. 290 00:13:18,047 --> 00:13:20,837 The reason I went home was, I hit a breaking point. 291 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:23,553 Reed and I had several discussions. 292 00:13:23,594 --> 00:13:26,264 And he's like, "You can never leave." 293 00:13:26,305 --> 00:13:28,425 He'd said it in a nice way, like, you know, 294 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,234 you can't leave me, can't leave this project. 295 00:13:32,019 --> 00:13:33,649 It pissed me off. 296 00:13:33,687 --> 00:13:36,437 If Stu's allowed to fly back to see his relatives, 297 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:38,322 I'm allowed to fly back to see my kid. 298 00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:39,779 We hit the president on COVID all the time 299 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:41,239 and being irresponsible; I'm going to be 300 00:13:41,278 --> 00:13:42,528 a responsible parent. I'm going home. 301 00:13:45,115 --> 00:13:47,485 But I was never leaving the project. 302 00:13:47,535 --> 00:13:49,245 We should play the balance of this week 303 00:13:49,286 --> 00:13:52,666 sort of, like, you know, as it comes. 304 00:13:52,706 --> 00:13:54,626 And we have Georgia, right? 305 00:13:54,667 --> 00:13:57,667 So we'll have to get some ads running. 306 00:13:57,711 --> 00:13:59,761 - Can I ask you one question? - Yeah. 307 00:13:59,797 --> 00:14:02,547 In the ranking of, like, 308 00:14:02,591 --> 00:14:05,181 new entity media, democracy, 309 00:14:05,219 --> 00:14:07,259 like, which one's your priority? 310 00:14:07,304 --> 00:14:08,564 Saving democracy. 311 00:14:08,597 --> 00:14:10,097 Right, all right. 312 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:11,890 Saving and defending-- all that's--anything 313 00:14:11,934 --> 00:14:13,854 that we can do within the PAC. 314 00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:18,189 I believe in The Lincoln Project. 315 00:14:18,232 --> 00:14:19,572 In any organization, 316 00:14:19,608 --> 00:14:21,858 there's going to be difficulties. 317 00:14:21,902 --> 00:14:24,992 And I joined because 318 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:27,620 I thought the fight was worth it. 319 00:14:27,658 --> 00:14:29,658 I'm not going to walk away from this. 320 00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:31,912 The early results bear out that Biden 321 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:33,624 got 10% of Republicans. 322 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:35,714 Mm-hmm. 323 00:14:35,749 --> 00:14:38,039 That's 3% more than Hillary got. 324 00:14:38,085 --> 00:14:39,455 Mm-hmm. 325 00:14:39,503 --> 00:14:41,803 So if that's the case, then, like, we're-- 326 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:44,879 we're in the Bannon zone, right, which is that 1% to 4% 327 00:14:44,925 --> 00:14:48,845 that he called out of establishment Republicans. 328 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:50,468 So I think--yeah. 329 00:14:50,514 --> 00:14:51,894 Can you ask him to wipe himself? 330 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,730 You're five. 331 00:14:55,769 --> 00:14:58,729 Isn't parenthood great? 332 00:14:58,772 --> 00:15:00,272 Good job. 333 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:07,114 Yeah, he's got 72 million votes, 334 00:15:07,156 --> 00:15:09,446 with a million left to count. 335 00:15:09,491 --> 00:15:11,081 There wasn't a landslide. 336 00:15:11,118 --> 00:15:15,078 What does that say about the country right now? 337 00:15:15,122 --> 00:15:17,082 I was really hoping that by the time we did the roundup, 338 00:15:17,124 --> 00:15:19,424 we'd have a decision, but... 339 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:21,170 - I know. - Okay. 340 00:15:21,211 --> 00:15:22,461 Cool. 341 00:15:22,504 --> 00:15:23,304 Are they there yet? 342 00:15:23,339 --> 00:15:24,629 No, just the cameras. 343 00:15:29,678 --> 00:15:31,968 There's no closure yet. 344 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:36,983 Those guys have been watching every single day. 345 00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:39,899 So they're feeling the anxiety about every single move. 346 00:15:41,732 --> 00:15:42,822 That's not useful to me. 347 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:46,779 I would like to give it a couple of hours 348 00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:50,070 to have all of the results come in, but... 349 00:15:50,115 --> 00:15:51,525 fuck. 350 00:15:51,575 --> 00:15:54,075 It's just, like, fuck. 351 00:15:54,119 --> 00:15:56,869 I can't believe the polling was off. 352 00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:59,424 It gave us, like, a false sense of hope. 353 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:01,168 I do think the absentee ballot issue 354 00:16:01,210 --> 00:16:02,800 for military is a major issue. 355 00:16:02,836 --> 00:16:04,376 There are several thousand votes that need to be counted. 356 00:16:04,421 --> 00:16:06,261 And when we're talking just a few thousand vote difference, 357 00:16:06,298 --> 00:16:09,258 that does matter, so. 358 00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:10,551 But I try not to be checking The New York Times 359 00:16:10,594 --> 00:16:12,104 every three minutes. 360 00:16:12,137 --> 00:16:13,807 What's going to happen is going to happen. 361 00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:22,821 Trump can do whatever he wants to do. 362 00:16:22,856 --> 00:16:26,146 But he doesn't get to decide that the votes 363 00:16:26,193 --> 00:16:27,193 are going to stop counting. 364 00:16:27,236 --> 00:16:29,696 Terrific. Thank you so much. 365 00:16:33,283 --> 00:16:35,833 After four long, tense days... 366 00:16:38,956 --> 00:16:42,916 ...CNN projects Joseph R Biden Jr. is elected 367 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,460 the 46th President of the United States, 368 00:16:45,504 --> 00:16:48,844 winning the White House, and denying President Trump 369 00:16:48,882 --> 00:16:49,842 a second term. 370 00:16:56,056 --> 00:16:57,976 - Is that real? - Yeah, look at that. 371 00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:59,637 Can't believe it. All the horns. 372 00:16:59,685 --> 00:17:00,885 Oh, wow. 373 00:17:00,936 --> 00:17:02,056 That's amazing. 374 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:09,278 "Dear Ron, on behalf of all of the patients 375 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:12,489 I have tragically lost to this virus, 376 00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,991 and on behalf of every patient I have helped guide 377 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:18,544 through to the other side to breathe another day... 378 00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:21,499 ...thank you for all you and your team did 379 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:24,630 to help bring us to this point, 380 00:17:24,668 --> 00:17:26,878 and help ensure we had a turnover of our presidency." 381 00:17:33,635 --> 00:17:35,255 Have a pack. 382 00:17:35,304 --> 00:17:36,224 He travels with it. 383 00:17:36,263 --> 00:17:37,893 Thank you so much. 384 00:17:37,931 --> 00:17:40,981 I'm afraid this might happen again. 385 00:17:41,018 --> 00:17:42,558 Congratulations, brother. 386 00:17:42,603 --> 00:17:44,403 - You too, man. - No kidding. 387 00:17:44,438 --> 00:17:46,568 Oh, my God. 388 00:17:46,607 --> 00:17:48,357 Yeah, the phone is blowing up. 389 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,780 I've started, like, a pile-on of thank yous to all 390 00:17:50,819 --> 00:17:52,199 of our Hollywood friends, 391 00:17:52,237 --> 00:17:53,107 money people that I dealt with, 392 00:17:53,155 --> 00:17:54,065 and everything else. 393 00:17:54,114 --> 00:17:56,334 But what a day. 394 00:17:56,366 --> 00:17:58,076 - Hello? - Hey, dude. 395 00:17:58,118 --> 00:17:59,198 Good to win. 396 00:18:03,248 --> 00:18:06,878 There's a certain part of the coming down, you know, 397 00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:08,419 where you don't realize how tense you were 398 00:18:08,462 --> 00:18:10,172 and how much stress there was. 399 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:14,929 I have a tough time understanding and putting in 400 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:17,888 perspective things in my life that were of consequence. 401 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:20,600 This one, I'm really clear on. 402 00:18:20,641 --> 00:18:21,601 We fucking took out the president 403 00:18:21,642 --> 00:18:24,692 of the United States. 404 00:18:24,728 --> 00:18:26,898 That changes history. 405 00:18:31,819 --> 00:18:34,069 Okay, I just have to grab my coffee upstairs, 406 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:35,863 and then I'm good to go. 407 00:18:35,906 --> 00:18:37,526 Mm-mm. 408 00:18:37,574 --> 00:18:40,494 We had set out to defeat Donald Trump. 409 00:18:40,536 --> 00:18:41,866 We came from the right, 410 00:18:41,912 --> 00:18:43,462 and a lot of our people came from the left. 411 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:47,457 We had a unique constellation of political experience 412 00:18:47,501 --> 00:18:49,921 and knowledge. 413 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:53,222 And we kicked their ass. 414 00:18:53,257 --> 00:18:55,757 The creative content was phenomenal. 415 00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:58,391 Without Rick Wilson's creative brilliance, 416 00:18:58,428 --> 00:18:59,758 it never would have jumped 417 00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:01,805 into the national consciousness. 418 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,519 The viral ads were the top of the iceberg. 419 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,400 Below the surface were all the ads people weren't seeing. 420 00:19:07,437 --> 00:19:09,187 They were the digital ads in the States. 421 00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:11,611 They were the ads talking to voters in the States. 422 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:14,700 And that's what our job was to do. 423 00:19:14,736 --> 00:19:17,356 I just--it's probably one of the best political teams 424 00:19:17,406 --> 00:19:19,486 I've worked with in my entire career, 425 00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:21,623 and I'm just really proud of them. 426 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:24,330 Just amazing. 427 00:19:24,371 --> 00:19:26,501 I'm so proud of you. 428 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:28,710 America has called upon us 429 00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:30,960 to marshal the forces of science 430 00:19:31,003 --> 00:19:35,923 and the forces of hope in the great battles of our time-- 431 00:19:35,966 --> 00:19:39,176 the battle to control the virus, 432 00:19:39,219 --> 00:19:40,929 the battle to achieve racial justice 433 00:19:40,971 --> 00:19:43,311 and root out systemic racism in this country... 434 00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:49,814 ...and the battle to save our planet by getting 435 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:51,605 climate under control. 436 00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:57,910 The battle to restore decency, defend democracy, 437 00:19:57,946 --> 00:20:00,946 and give everybody in this country a fair shot. 438 00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:03,541 That's all they're asking for--a fair shot. 439 00:20:09,082 --> 00:20:12,542 And to my campaign team and all the volunteers 440 00:20:12,586 --> 00:20:15,166 and all who gave so much of themselves-- 441 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:18,054 I want him to sign so many executive orders. 442 00:20:18,091 --> 00:20:19,891 Like, so many. 443 00:20:19,927 --> 00:20:23,057 Folks, I'm a proud Democrat. 444 00:20:23,096 --> 00:20:26,226 Let's see how the-- the founders like it. 445 00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:38,567 The end is coming-- 446 00:20:38,612 --> 00:20:40,742 the end of the noise and lies, 447 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:43,121 the end of the chaos and division. 448 00:20:43,158 --> 00:20:45,738 That day is coming because of your vote. 449 00:20:45,786 --> 00:20:49,366 Joe Biden, our president. 450 00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:51,384 You have a very hopeful and lovely ad 451 00:20:51,416 --> 00:20:52,956 going out tonight called Dawn, 452 00:20:53,001 --> 00:20:56,301 about there being a new dawn with the Biden administration. 453 00:20:56,338 --> 00:20:59,298 So we'll put that out this evening around eight o'clock. 454 00:20:59,341 --> 00:21:01,721 All right, well, listen, 455 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,850 if you had to take, you know, my temperature 456 00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:08,847 after election day, obviously, you know, beyond pleased 457 00:21:08,892 --> 00:21:12,192 that we beat Trump, right, or we helped beat Trump. 458 00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:14,439 I think we played a unique role, 459 00:21:14,481 --> 00:21:17,531 a role that probably we only could have played in this. 460 00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:20,237 The organization will be smaller moving forward 461 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:23,279 just because we won't need as many people 462 00:21:23,323 --> 00:21:24,953 as we have now. 463 00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:27,042 I think that 2021, you know, 464 00:21:27,077 --> 00:21:29,287 looks like we'll be leaning into some 465 00:21:29,329 --> 00:21:30,789 pro-democracy efforts-- 466 00:21:30,831 --> 00:21:33,541 voting rights, election security, you know, 467 00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:37,463 what it is we do to push back on the sort of torrent of, 468 00:21:37,504 --> 00:21:39,054 you know, fake and, you know, 469 00:21:39,089 --> 00:21:41,089 misleading information, disinformation, 470 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:44,553 misinformation that floods into the system. 471 00:21:44,594 --> 00:21:46,814 President Trump, again out of the public eye, 472 00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:49,847 rejects the reality of the election outcome online, 473 00:21:49,891 --> 00:21:52,021 repeating baseless claims about the vote count 474 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:54,650 despite no evidence of widespread fraud. 475 00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:57,438 Only four GOP senators have acknowledged 476 00:21:57,482 --> 00:21:59,322 President-elect Biden. 477 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,069 President Trump is 100% within his rights 478 00:22:03,113 --> 00:22:06,373 to look into allegations of irregularities. 479 00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:08,408 President Trump should not concede. 480 00:22:08,452 --> 00:22:12,872 Keep fighting for every legal and live vote. 481 00:22:12,914 --> 00:22:15,544 It's just despicable, weak. 482 00:22:19,129 --> 00:22:20,919 I--I mean, I really don't know what to say. 483 00:22:20,964 --> 00:22:22,424 I mean, it's incredible. 484 00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:25,796 Do we, as an organization, consider it a coup? 485 00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:27,974 I think it is an inept attempt at a coup. 486 00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:31,603 But still, I think you could call it a coup. 487 00:22:31,641 --> 00:22:33,521 Maybe I'm just saying this for my own benefit 488 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,020 as I kind of breathe in the gravity of what's being said, 489 00:22:36,063 --> 00:22:37,193 and I agree with it. 490 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,520 I believe this is seditious. 491 00:22:39,566 --> 00:22:43,026 I believe that unity is no longer a goal. 492 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:45,200 They're not going back. 493 00:22:45,238 --> 00:22:47,198 More than 100 House Republicans are now 494 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,870 supporting overturning the results 495 00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:51,119 in four swing states Joe Biden won. 496 00:22:51,161 --> 00:22:52,951 Joining us now is the co-founder 497 00:22:52,996 --> 00:22:55,036 of The Lincoln Project, Jennifer Horn. 498 00:22:55,082 --> 00:22:56,712 We can also call her 499 00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:58,920 a former Republican. 500 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,550 It's because of what we've seen 501 00:23:00,587 --> 00:23:02,797 in the weeks since the election 502 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:04,629 from so many elected Republicans 503 00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:08,854 across this country who were willing to enlist in a-- 504 00:23:08,887 --> 00:23:11,927 a coordinated, intentional effort 505 00:23:11,973 --> 00:23:14,983 to essentially overthrow democracy 506 00:23:15,018 --> 00:23:17,598 in the United States of America. 507 00:23:17,646 --> 00:23:20,606 It has become clear to me that the party of Lincoln 508 00:23:20,649 --> 00:23:21,899 is no more. 509 00:23:24,444 --> 00:23:26,204 The thing about this democracy thing 510 00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:28,238 is, like, somebody's got to be willing to lose. 511 00:23:28,281 --> 00:23:29,661 Do you know what I mean? 512 00:23:29,699 --> 00:23:31,159 If you had told me on November 2nd, 513 00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:34,001 that if Trump lost by 8 million or more, 514 00:23:34,037 --> 00:23:36,707 north of 300 votes, electoral college, 515 00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:39,248 would Republican senators accept it, 516 00:23:39,292 --> 00:23:40,842 I would have said, yeah. 517 00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:42,917 I mean, like, yeah. I mean, it's stupid. 518 00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,593 Yeah, of course they're going to accept it. 519 00:23:44,631 --> 00:23:47,431 And I don't understand it, 520 00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:49,427 except I'll never look at 1930s Germany 521 00:23:49,469 --> 00:23:50,759 and wonder how it happened again. 522 00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:55,774 Donald Trump! 523 00:23:57,102 --> 00:23:57,942 Yeah! 524 00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:02,856 What if it worked? 525 00:24:02,899 --> 00:24:04,189 - What if the coup worked? - Yes. 526 00:24:04,234 --> 00:24:06,244 What are we then? 527 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,698 Can I just jump in for a quick second? 528 00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:09,407 We have to answer the question, 529 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,408 what the hell are you going to do about it? 530 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,990 Not just talk about it, not just put a flag in the sand 531 00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:15,745 and say, this was the first American coup. 532 00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:18,497 What are you going to do about it? 533 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:20,250 And better fucking mean it. 534 00:24:20,292 --> 00:24:21,672 But then what are the assets we need 535 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:23,920 to make those things happen? 536 00:24:25,755 --> 00:24:27,045 Yeah, so-- 537 00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:28,550 But we can discuss that later. 538 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:30,262 I-- 539 00:25:10,926 --> 00:25:12,716 Ooh. 540 00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:15,011 - What'd she say? - She said goodbye to Brendan. 541 00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:19,055 You know what the only rules are of The Bachelorette-- 542 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,440 no rules. 543 00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:24,648 Trump is out there basically, like, calling for civil war. 544 00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:26,609 I mean, he's trying to do a coup. 545 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:28,320 And for whatever fucking reason, 546 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:32,530 The Lincoln Project is not doing much, you know? 547 00:25:32,572 --> 00:25:34,162 I'm completely out of the loop. 548 00:25:34,199 --> 00:25:35,829 Most of the staff is completely out of the loop. 549 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:38,867 I could be out there as soon as next week with-- 550 00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:42,172 Don't sign the fucking lease until you sign a contract. 551 00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:44,377 And I can't believe I have to keep saying this. 552 00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:46,207 We continue to have our political team calls. 553 00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:47,883 We continue to do the work that we can. 554 00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:49,711 But if it's supposed to be a daily call, 555 00:25:49,756 --> 00:25:51,876 and it gets canceled for three weeks straight, 556 00:25:51,925 --> 00:25:53,125 and then just gets canceled through the end of the year... 557 00:25:53,176 --> 00:25:54,716 What? 558 00:25:54,761 --> 00:25:56,221 ...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know 559 00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:57,893 that, like, all is not well in Denmark right now. 560 00:25:57,931 --> 00:25:59,181 I don't know. 561 00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:01,394 - Eddie. - Mikey G! 562 00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:02,524 - How's it going? - Good. 563 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:03,651 How was your day, brother? 564 00:26:03,687 --> 00:26:04,897 Do you know if we're going to be able 565 00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:06,268 to do anything in Georgia? 566 00:26:06,314 --> 00:26:07,654 Or do you think that's going to stay on hold 567 00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:09,071 for the next little bit? 568 00:26:09,109 --> 00:26:10,649 I mean, I don't know. 569 00:26:10,694 --> 00:26:12,154 And, like, there's that voice in the back 570 00:26:12,195 --> 00:26:13,315 of your head that's like, just ask him, ask him. 571 00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:14,783 Like, what's going on? What's going on? 572 00:26:14,823 --> 00:26:15,743 What's going on, you know? You want to know. 573 00:26:15,782 --> 00:26:17,162 Okay. 574 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,700 And if that's the case... 575 00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:19,873 But there's also a competing voice that's, 576 00:26:19,911 --> 00:26:21,331 like, I don't want to know. 577 00:26:21,371 --> 00:26:23,081 I don't want to be involved in this. 578 00:26:23,123 --> 00:26:25,133 What I think should be getting communicated is, 579 00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:27,956 all is not well right now, right? 580 00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:29,753 But I think it seem-- 581 00:26:29,796 --> 00:26:32,046 I would assume, and I would hope, that founders 582 00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:33,880 are working amongst themselves to resolve 583 00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:35,465 whatever it is that's going on. 584 00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:38,974 Yeah, there's significant revenue 585 00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:41,274 that's possibly involved just already. 586 00:26:41,308 --> 00:26:42,678 We have the 527. 587 00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:44,346 We have--right-- the super PAC. 588 00:26:44,394 --> 00:26:46,234 We have the that's hanging out there, 589 00:26:46,271 --> 00:26:47,771 we've got to figure out what the hell we want to do with. 590 00:26:47,814 --> 00:26:50,364 Then we have a 4 Guys Inc. 591 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,280 true, like, media entity. 592 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,950 Steve, if you're going to talk to Mike today, 593 00:26:54,988 --> 00:26:56,618 I need you to get him to sign 594 00:26:56,656 --> 00:26:58,616 the board resolution I had him send-- 595 00:26:58,658 --> 00:27:00,948 I had the lawyer send over yesterday. 596 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:05,001 Is he objecting? 597 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,750 Neither he nor Ron have signed it yet. 598 00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:08,211 So I just need to get it done. 599 00:27:12,547 --> 00:27:14,047 Ron and Mike are on the board. 600 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:17,050 They're 2/3 of the board. 601 00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:19,853 Reed is on the board too. 602 00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:21,718 Steve and I were also supposed to be named to the board. 603 00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:23,925 Basically, a scrivener's error did not get us 604 00:27:23,975 --> 00:27:25,845 on the board at the same time. 605 00:27:25,894 --> 00:27:27,944 Whatever happened, happened. 606 00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:30,569 Steve and I, you know, let's be honest, 607 00:27:30,607 --> 00:27:32,937 we're not detail management guys. 608 00:27:32,984 --> 00:27:36,244 And we're not, like, legal paperwork guys. 609 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:38,949 Long story short, we get through the campaign. 610 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:40,870 We have some unpleasantness with Mike 611 00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:43,789 and Ron and Jennifer. 612 00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:45,658 Between, like, what's really happening and the plans 613 00:27:45,705 --> 00:27:46,455 that they're making? 614 00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:51,592 Yeah, like they're in denial, just kind of moving forward. 615 00:27:51,628 --> 00:27:56,468 But yeah, they're playing a hand they don't have. 616 00:27:56,508 --> 00:28:00,258 I believed all along, up until the last few weeks 617 00:28:00,303 --> 00:28:03,353 of the campaign, that everybody was going 618 00:28:03,390 --> 00:28:05,770 to have an equal say in what 619 00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:07,939 The Lincoln Project would become. 620 00:28:07,977 --> 00:28:09,767 It only made sense. 621 00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:12,653 All of us jumped off at the same time as co-founders. 622 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:14,231 That's literally the name. 623 00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:16,695 We all took risks 624 00:28:16,736 --> 00:28:20,276 related to our livelihoods. 625 00:28:20,323 --> 00:28:23,793 And then it became apparent through some conversations 626 00:28:23,827 --> 00:28:26,407 with the other co-founders that the equity stakes 627 00:28:26,454 --> 00:28:28,584 were going to be extremely disproportionate 628 00:28:28,623 --> 00:28:32,633 if we were going to get anything. 629 00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:35,709 When I say "we," I mean, Jennifer Horn, 630 00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:38,045 Ron Steslow, and Mike Madrid. 631 00:28:40,301 --> 00:28:41,341 Ladies and gentlemen, 632 00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:43,256 The Lincoln Project. 633 00:28:43,304 --> 00:28:48,024 Steve Schmidt, Rick Wilson, Jennifer Horn, Ron Steslow, 634 00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:51,859 Mike Madrid, Reed Galen. 635 00:28:51,896 --> 00:28:54,146 At the first major event 636 00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:56,860 of The Lincoln Project at Cooper Union, 637 00:28:56,901 --> 00:29:01,821 everybody was introduced as a co-founder. 638 00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:04,615 Rick Wilson called me up before, and he said, 639 00:29:04,659 --> 00:29:07,619 you know, we have all of these early employees-- 640 00:29:07,662 --> 00:29:10,922 vendors, contractors, Horn, Steslow, Mike Madrid-- 641 00:29:10,957 --> 00:29:14,497 who have been hired, you know, to work on this. 642 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:16,764 They'd like to be called co-founders. 643 00:29:16,796 --> 00:29:19,666 Those people co-founded nothing. 644 00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:21,676 And my exact quote to him was, is, 645 00:29:21,718 --> 00:29:23,338 "I don't give a fuck what anyone calls 646 00:29:23,386 --> 00:29:25,846 themselves about the titles." 647 00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:30,889 And it created a crazy-- 648 00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:33,305 and I mean fucking crazy-- 649 00:29:33,354 --> 00:29:35,234 sense of entitlement, 650 00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:39,153 the likes of which I've never seen. 651 00:29:39,194 --> 00:29:42,244 They basically try to take over The Lincoln Project. 652 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,660 Because you know what the board can do? 653 00:29:43,698 --> 00:29:45,988 Remove anybody from The Lincoln Project. 654 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:49,334 They can fire me, fire Steve, fire anybody. 655 00:29:51,623 --> 00:29:54,923 It's important to recognize that no super PAC 656 00:29:54,959 --> 00:29:58,419 had ever done anything like this before-- 657 00:29:58,463 --> 00:30:01,343 not just the unbelievable amount of money 658 00:30:01,382 --> 00:30:03,592 that was coming in as fast as it was, 659 00:30:03,635 --> 00:30:06,095 but the notoriety, the awareness. 660 00:30:07,889 --> 00:30:09,059 I can't think of another super PAC 661 00:30:09,098 --> 00:30:11,098 that seeped into the consciousness 662 00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:12,982 of American pop culture. 663 00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:19,315 The media, political advertising, the Facebook ads, 664 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,649 all of my data is what they need 665 00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:24,744 to create a media company. 666 00:30:24,781 --> 00:30:27,331 Week before Thanksgiving, 667 00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:30,997 I receive a DocuSign 668 00:30:31,037 --> 00:30:33,577 asking for my signature 669 00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:36,673 to add Rick Wilson and Steve Schmidt 670 00:30:36,709 --> 00:30:37,669 to the board. 671 00:30:39,879 --> 00:30:41,669 To which, you know, I just said, 672 00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:45,804 I'm happy to do that once I meet my fiduciary obligation, 673 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:50,684 which is to understand where the $90 million... [laughs] 674 00:30:50,723 --> 00:30:53,233 ...that we raised and spent went. 675 00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:59,732 You used to have 41, 40? 676 00:30:59,774 --> 00:31:00,734 Let's do pickups of the USVI. 677 00:31:00,775 --> 00:31:01,985 Oh, yeah, let's do the pickups. 678 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,106 And then Ron and Mike, sometime tomorrow, 679 00:31:04,153 --> 00:31:06,783 before we all get pulled into our family-- 680 00:31:06,823 --> 00:31:09,533 you know, family time and all next week, 681 00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,866 I would love to be on a phone call with three of us 682 00:31:11,911 --> 00:31:13,041 all at one time. 683 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,789 Yes. 684 00:31:14,831 --> 00:31:16,121 As co-founders, we expected that 685 00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:20,125 we were looped in on what was going on. 686 00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:23,879 And Mike and Ron wanted an accounting of the finances, 687 00:31:23,923 --> 00:31:27,393 and Reed and Steve were unwilling to give it to them. 688 00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:31,347 I started to get suspicious about where did the money go. 689 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:33,389 Reed, I've said this many times before. 690 00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:35,233 I think that one of the reasons that The Lincoln Project 691 00:31:35,268 --> 00:31:37,558 was as successful as we were in the past year 692 00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:39,484 is because we were honest. 693 00:31:39,522 --> 00:31:41,732 And sometimes, the bare, naked truth 694 00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:43,574 can be uncomfortable to look at. 695 00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:46,150 But I think that there has been a yearning 696 00:31:46,195 --> 00:31:48,485 amongst the American people 697 00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:51,411 for a political organization 698 00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:54,951 that just tells them the truth. 699 00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:57,246 First time I looked at our FEC reports 700 00:31:57,290 --> 00:32:00,040 was the first time that I saw in print how much money 701 00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:02,214 went to Summit Strategies. 702 00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:05,423 It was 27 million, you know, something like that. 703 00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:10,175 And I started recreating in my head who did what. 704 00:32:10,219 --> 00:32:12,179 All of the staffers on The Lincoln Project 705 00:32:12,221 --> 00:32:14,221 are accounted for in the FEC report. 706 00:32:14,265 --> 00:32:16,385 So they weren't getting paid through Summit, 707 00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:17,774 they were getting paid directly. 708 00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:19,650 You can see that. 709 00:32:19,687 --> 00:32:22,067 All of our ad buys through TUSK or through Ashton Media, 710 00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:23,726 like, they're all accounted for there. 711 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:26,945 And there's still $27 million 712 00:32:26,986 --> 00:32:30,106 that went to Summit Strategies. 713 00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:34,866 Summit Strategies did not serve a function 714 00:32:34,911 --> 00:32:37,041 to the campaign. 715 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,380 They did not have a staff of employees who were working 716 00:32:40,416 --> 00:32:41,746 for The Lincoln Project. 717 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,133 They weren't producing the ads. 718 00:32:44,170 --> 00:32:46,760 They weren't developing the data. 719 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:48,798 They weren't doing the digital. 720 00:32:48,841 --> 00:32:52,141 Summit Strategies was Reed Galen. 721 00:32:54,597 --> 00:32:56,977 The question was, was that just the four of them 722 00:32:57,016 --> 00:32:58,936 splitting up the money? 723 00:32:58,977 --> 00:32:59,977 Hey, gang. 724 00:33:00,019 --> 00:33:00,939 Yo. 725 00:33:11,864 --> 00:33:13,784 - Laura, this is very exciting. - I know. It's cool. 726 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,075 We're going to have a home! 727 00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:19,906 The rescue dogs of politics will finally have a home. 728 00:33:19,956 --> 00:33:22,956 Like, if we're going to have the LPTV studio, 729 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:24,631 we should have a podcast studio too. 730 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:27,129 And I realized that the four guys 731 00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:29,971 who we all trusted to lead this effort 732 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,838 and to get us where we needed to go, 733 00:33:31,884 --> 00:33:35,854 that they were using the efforts of The Lincoln Project 734 00:33:35,888 --> 00:33:40,348 not just to advance our goals, but to build a foundation 735 00:33:40,393 --> 00:33:42,853 for their personal media business. 736 00:33:42,895 --> 00:33:45,305 That is an extraordinary betrayal. 737 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,280 There's nothing wrong with making money. 738 00:33:49,318 --> 00:33:51,698 I mean, take a celebrity athlete, right? 739 00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:54,158 I think that if you look back at the year 2020 740 00:33:54,198 --> 00:33:56,698 and you asked the average opponent of Donald Trump-- 741 00:33:56,743 --> 00:33:59,543 maybe someone who gave 25 or 50 bucks, 742 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,499 if they'd be willing to pay a professional athlete's salary 743 00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:05,130 to some political consultants who came in 744 00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:07,248 and would do the best job at taking out Donald Trump, 745 00:34:07,295 --> 00:34:10,625 they'd say, "Yeah, all day long. 746 00:34:10,673 --> 00:34:14,343 My worry is that a disproportionate amount 747 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:18,465 of resources went to people who had a financial, 748 00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:22,734 rather than altruistic, stake in the organization. 749 00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:25,059 If I had had more money, 750 00:34:25,104 --> 00:34:27,274 could I have moved the needle more in North Carolina? 751 00:34:27,315 --> 00:34:29,065 Yes, I could have. 752 00:34:29,108 --> 00:34:33,568 Could I have pushed the boundaries in other states 753 00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:36,073 and made them more competitive and put them in play? 754 00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:38,695 Yes, I could have. 755 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:41,833 All of my data was saying that there were other places 756 00:34:41,871 --> 00:34:44,751 that we could have made a bigger impact on the race. 757 00:34:44,791 --> 00:34:46,921 The fact that we didn't 758 00:34:46,959 --> 00:34:48,539 may not be a legal complication, 759 00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:49,916 but it's certainly a moral issue. 760 00:34:54,801 --> 00:34:57,181 Whatever perceptions they might have 761 00:34:57,220 --> 00:35:00,430 do not comport with reality. 762 00:35:00,473 --> 00:35:02,313 At the time, our media buyer said, 763 00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,100 "I can't be on a finance report." 764 00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:09,105 And I said, okay, we'll use my company. 765 00:35:09,148 --> 00:35:10,778 Why? 766 00:35:10,817 --> 00:35:13,607 Because the people that made our ads, in that moment, 767 00:35:13,653 --> 00:35:16,823 were still working for Republicans, too, right? 768 00:35:16,864 --> 00:35:19,414 So they did not want to have their names 769 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:20,830 out there associated with us. 770 00:35:20,868 --> 00:35:23,118 I didn't make $27 million. 771 00:35:23,162 --> 00:35:25,462 Far, far, far, far, far from it. 772 00:35:27,542 --> 00:35:29,712 Here's what I can say. 773 00:35:29,752 --> 00:35:31,302 I drive a five-year-old Volvo. 774 00:35:31,337 --> 00:35:32,957 I could sure use a-- 775 00:35:33,005 --> 00:35:34,835 I could sure use to replace my driveway, you know? 776 00:35:34,882 --> 00:35:38,142 I'm not--my lifestyle is-- 777 00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:40,677 is basically this fight. 778 00:35:40,721 --> 00:35:42,721 There is no giant slush fund where people, 779 00:35:42,765 --> 00:35:44,475 you know, went off and bought a volcano island 780 00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:45,807 to have a lair. 781 00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:47,652 Nobody made that much money. 782 00:35:47,687 --> 00:35:49,557 We made money, but not that much. 783 00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:55,649 They gave the enemies of The Lincoln Project 784 00:35:55,695 --> 00:35:57,655 a sword to attack us. 785 00:35:57,697 --> 00:35:59,947 And right now, all I'm trying to do 786 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:01,991 is--is patch the holes in the ship 787 00:36:02,034 --> 00:36:04,084 and see if we can keep it afloat. 788 00:36:11,419 --> 00:36:14,379 Let me tell you, this election was rigged. 789 00:36:14,422 --> 00:36:18,182 Your governor could stop it very easily if he knew 790 00:36:18,217 --> 00:36:19,257 what the hell he was doing. 791 00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:23,309 On the same day the Georgia 792 00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:25,637 Secretary of State's office moves closer 793 00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:27,693 to recertifying the general election results, 794 00:36:27,727 --> 00:36:29,937 President Donald Trump's campaign 795 00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:31,689 slaps the state with a lawsuit. 796 00:36:31,731 --> 00:36:33,611 Court documents lists numerous 797 00:36:33,649 --> 00:36:35,689 county elections directors as defendants, 798 00:36:35,735 --> 00:36:39,155 as well as Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. 799 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,697 The left lies. They cheat, and they steal. 800 00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:43,491 They are ruthless. 801 00:36:43,534 --> 00:36:45,834 And they are hell bent on getting power and control 802 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,120 by any means necessary. 803 00:36:55,254 --> 00:36:57,384 You should want to have an accurate election. 804 00:36:57,423 --> 00:36:59,223 And you're a Republican. 805 00:37:11,812 --> 00:37:15,362 Ossoff and Warnock are the two most extreme, 806 00:37:15,399 --> 00:37:17,439 far left, liberal Senate candidates 807 00:37:17,485 --> 00:37:19,025 in the history of our country. 808 00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:21,990 They cheated, and they rigged our presidential election. 809 00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:24,951 And they're going to try and rig this election too. 810 00:37:24,992 --> 00:37:29,372 We love you! 811 00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:31,173 Thank you. 812 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,180 What has happened over the last three weeks 813 00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:46,889 has had a very quieting effect. 814 00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:51,227 The Lincoln Project has not been able to be as active, 815 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:54,729 given that there are some legal questions right now, 816 00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:58,692 of which I'm, like, privy to, like, 2%, I think, 817 00:37:58,734 --> 00:38:01,114 of what is actually going on. 818 00:38:03,072 --> 00:38:06,082 We're trying to determine how much can be done. 819 00:38:17,795 --> 00:38:19,795 A woman reached out to me 820 00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:23,879 from the Secretary of State's Office in Georgia. 821 00:38:23,926 --> 00:38:28,676 And the president came out and started harassing 822 00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:30,603 that office for the recounts. 823 00:38:30,641 --> 00:38:33,691 The recount--they recounted the votes three times. 824 00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:35,438 They went for Biden all three times, 825 00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:37,859 and just really laid in to that office. 826 00:38:37,898 --> 00:38:39,398 And the office refused to say that the-- 827 00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:41,242 the vote was fraudulent. 828 00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:44,067 Like, they would not say it, and knew that 829 00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:45,743 there was going to be hell to pay from Trump. 830 00:38:45,781 --> 00:38:49,581 So this woman called and said, "Can you come and meet with me? 831 00:38:49,618 --> 00:38:51,408 Will you back us? Will you help us? 832 00:38:51,454 --> 00:38:53,544 Like, I don't know how to do this." 833 00:38:53,581 --> 00:38:55,961 I was hearing that the Trump campaign, 834 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,670 like, in February, wanted to question election results, 835 00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:01,302 throw it to the legislature. 836 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,549 And, like, there's no function in the law 837 00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:06,051 that would allow the Trump campaign to even do that. 838 00:39:06,093 --> 00:39:07,683 Mm-hmm. 839 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,390 He basically demanded that, you know, 840 00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:12,020 we help steal elections on their behalf. 841 00:39:12,058 --> 00:39:13,428 This was an autocratic attempt. 842 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,266 I mean, we know this. We know this. 843 00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:18,271 I mean, you just change one rung on this thing, 844 00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:21,484 and now we're talking about removing voters and purging. 845 00:39:21,525 --> 00:39:23,895 And we might just be talking about a different outcome 846 00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:25,494 in this election. 847 00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:27,319 And that's a frightful notion, that one guy 848 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:28,945 - stands between those things. - Yeah. 849 00:39:28,991 --> 00:39:30,451 So I am going to give you a heads up about 850 00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:33,083 some of the things that the office is dealing with. 851 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,710 We started getting attacked by President Trump. 852 00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:37,708 There were people, within minutes, 853 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:40,290 putting hits on Brad online. 854 00:39:40,336 --> 00:39:43,336 Brad's house has been broken into twice. 855 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:44,801 God. 856 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,130 We are getting death threats 857 00:39:46,175 --> 00:39:47,835 of people who are on staff, and, like, 858 00:39:47,885 --> 00:39:51,715 folks who are in the counties running elections. 859 00:39:51,764 --> 00:39:55,314 And Loeffler and Perdue have said nothing about this? 860 00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:56,811 I think we should absolutely hammer that. 861 00:39:56,852 --> 00:40:01,822 That would be a very nice and cutting ad as well. 862 00:40:01,857 --> 00:40:04,397 Just, like, these are the Republicans--yes. 863 00:40:04,443 --> 00:40:06,113 I think I cannot-- 864 00:40:06,153 --> 00:40:07,363 So there's two Senate races 865 00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:08,815 on the ballot in Georgia. 866 00:40:08,864 --> 00:40:11,084 A recount could be incredibly significant. 867 00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:13,197 On the line-- control of the U.S. Senate. 868 00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,254 If Democrats win both seats, the chamber is tied, 869 00:40:16,288 --> 00:40:18,078 with Vice President-elect Kamala Harris 870 00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:20,424 casting the deciding vote. 871 00:40:24,463 --> 00:40:25,713 He's right down there. 872 00:40:25,756 --> 00:40:26,916 In the green, right? 873 00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:28,506 Oh, in the green, yeah. 874 00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:29,591 Right there with the jacket. 875 00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:31,005 Okay, okay, okay. 876 00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:32,763 I got a phone call from Nate. 877 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:34,055 He was like, "Hey, I need your help 878 00:40:34,098 --> 00:40:35,098 on this stuff in Georgia," and I was like, 879 00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:36,271 "I can't spend money. 880 00:40:36,308 --> 00:40:37,598 They're not giving me any money." 881 00:40:37,643 --> 00:40:41,443 Hey. Making sure that they vote. 882 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,190 Did you have any idea this shit 883 00:40:43,232 --> 00:40:46,782 was going down between Ron and Mike and the board? 884 00:40:46,819 --> 00:40:49,779 I'm happy that I was kept out of that, whatever it was. 885 00:40:49,822 --> 00:40:50,952 I don't feel deceived. 886 00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:52,160 That doesn't sound like anything 887 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,159 I want to be involved in. 888 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:03,208 When Georgia is going on, 889 00:41:03,252 --> 00:41:07,052 this is happening concurrently with the internal tumult 890 00:41:07,089 --> 00:41:09,839 that was making it difficult to move money. 891 00:41:09,884 --> 00:41:14,684 And the idea that we were on the precipice of Democrats 892 00:41:14,722 --> 00:41:18,522 have 50 seats in the U.S. Senate and, instead, 893 00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:23,149 we're fighting with each other is very disappointing. 894 00:41:24,857 --> 00:41:28,487 It came to a point where it was sort of like, 895 00:41:28,527 --> 00:41:30,317 do your job, or I'll find somebody who will. 896 00:41:40,372 --> 00:41:41,672 Rick, since you're on, 897 00:41:41,707 --> 00:41:42,827 can you tell us what's happening 898 00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:44,495 in these last couple days? 899 00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,173 We've got to go fight this thing in Georgia 900 00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:47,172 next week, guys. 901 00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:48,803 So take a deep breath. 902 00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:50,469 We're going to have a day or two off. 903 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:53,838 But we're going to be back in the fight in-- 904 00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:56,676 in Georgia to go after QAnon Kelly. 905 00:41:58,891 --> 00:42:00,231 All right, I think we have 906 00:42:00,267 --> 00:42:01,347 tons to do today, right? 907 00:42:01,393 --> 00:42:03,063 Off we go. 908 00:42:03,103 --> 00:42:04,903 We've got NAACP, BlackPAC working 909 00:42:04,939 --> 00:42:07,269 with Ossoff and Warnock. 910 00:42:07,316 --> 00:42:09,736 We should create a video about it. 911 00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:11,027 And if it takes two or three minutes, 912 00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:12,860 I think that's fine. 913 00:42:12,905 --> 00:42:14,025 Is that, like, a little, short ad 914 00:42:14,073 --> 00:42:15,373 that we could cut? 915 00:42:15,407 --> 00:42:16,827 Like, Kelly's the only thing standing 916 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:19,077 between you and freedom? 917 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,159 We haven't given her the true Lincoln Project treatment yet. 918 00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:23,826 Well, like, what if it's, like, an ad, and it shows her 919 00:42:23,874 --> 00:42:25,214 on the plane, right? It's like... 920 00:42:25,251 --> 00:42:26,791 I'm so rich, I'm so rich 921 00:42:26,835 --> 00:42:28,375 I'm so rich 922 00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:30,380 I can do whatever I want 923 00:42:30,422 --> 00:42:31,802 That entitlement. 924 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,300 We're running against entitlement. 925 00:42:33,342 --> 00:42:36,512 And then you have the insider trading thing, and the... 926 00:42:36,554 --> 00:42:39,394 And the airplane. 927 00:42:39,431 --> 00:42:40,851 That's a good--yes. 928 00:42:40,891 --> 00:42:42,731 Right? 929 00:42:42,768 --> 00:42:45,478 The right-wing media wars are heating up. 930 00:42:45,521 --> 00:42:49,231 Like, now is the time to be getting into that space 931 00:42:49,275 --> 00:42:51,565 with our various channels, because they're 932 00:42:51,610 --> 00:42:52,990 going to get crazier too. 933 00:42:53,028 --> 00:42:55,738 We have always said, as a group, 934 00:42:55,781 --> 00:42:57,661 that this would get crazier. 935 00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:59,740 Like, it wouldn't snap back to normal, 936 00:42:59,785 --> 00:43:01,575 that there's no normal, right? 937 00:43:01,620 --> 00:43:03,960 That is, like, an article of faith. 938 00:43:03,998 --> 00:43:05,868 I think January 6th could be crazy too. 939 00:43:05,916 --> 00:43:07,206 Yeah. 940 00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:08,751 You have to frame-- 941 00:43:08,794 --> 00:43:10,804 you want someone to take an action, Nate, right? 942 00:43:10,838 --> 00:43:12,548 You want someone to do something 943 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:14,970 that they haven't done yet, right? 944 00:43:15,009 --> 00:43:16,589 And what you're trying to say is there's two sides. 945 00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:20,966 You can't be on this side. 946 00:43:21,015 --> 00:43:23,675 This is the bad side. 947 00:43:23,726 --> 00:43:25,136 Thanks, Nate, for everything down there. 948 00:43:25,185 --> 00:43:27,345 - Be safe. - It's no problem. 949 00:43:27,396 --> 00:43:31,026 Thank you all. Talk to you in a bit. 950 00:43:31,066 --> 00:43:32,316 Proud Boy, Proud boy! 951 00:43:34,862 --> 00:43:37,952 Today, the dividing line 952 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,950 in American politics is not between 953 00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:41,952 conservative and liberal. 954 00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:45,214 It's between those who believe in democracy 955 00:43:45,247 --> 00:43:47,747 and those who are killing it. 956 00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:48,791 Join us. 957 00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:56,927 Yeah, that's--my lawyer is reaching out to him 958 00:43:56,967 --> 00:44:00,137 to try to have the meeting tomorrow morning. 959 00:44:00,179 --> 00:44:02,139 There's going to have to be something more than just, 960 00:44:02,181 --> 00:44:04,771 here's a check, pat us on the ass, and you're out the door. 961 00:44:04,808 --> 00:44:06,348 For me, for me-- I'm speaking for me. 962 00:44:06,393 --> 00:44:09,023 It's not for Ron. 963 00:44:09,063 --> 00:44:11,073 This is not what I want. 964 00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:14,146 This is absolutely not what I hoped for. 965 00:44:16,528 --> 00:44:19,318 The last 72 hours felt like the Cuban Missile Crisis. 966 00:44:21,784 --> 00:44:23,874 Now it's like, you want to blow up 967 00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:27,331 The Lincoln Project and show everybody what happened here? 968 00:44:27,373 --> 00:44:31,423 That's probably not-- probably not the best idea, 969 00:44:31,460 --> 00:44:33,340 but go ahead. 970 00:44:33,379 --> 00:44:34,459 I'm going to go to Mexico. 971 00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:51,479 Ron and Mike are officially no longer with us 972 00:44:51,522 --> 00:44:54,152 on January 31st. 973 00:44:54,191 --> 00:44:57,821 And everything's being transitioned to a new firm, 974 00:44:57,861 --> 00:44:59,321 new digital firm. 975 00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:02,323 And there is no communication with Mike. 976 00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:04,076 And I don't know what's next for them, 977 00:45:04,118 --> 00:45:07,038 but they will not be a part of The Lincoln Project. 978 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:09,539 And Ron will not be hosting 979 00:45:09,581 --> 00:45:12,791 The Lincoln Project podcast. 980 00:45:12,835 --> 00:45:15,375 So that--those relationships are done. 981 00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:21,839 They didn't have an entitlement to anything. 982 00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:25,675 And I didn't have an obligation to be in business with them. 983 00:45:25,723 --> 00:45:28,563 In fact, by the time we got to the end, 984 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,860 I did not want to be in business with Mike Madrid, 985 00:45:32,896 --> 00:45:36,106 Ron Steslow, and Jennifer Horn. 986 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:39,740 Whatever the next incarnation of this was, 987 00:45:39,778 --> 00:45:41,528 they weren't along for the ride. 988 00:45:43,615 --> 00:45:45,985 And that's too fucking bad. 989 00:45:46,034 --> 00:45:48,254 That's life. 990 00:45:48,287 --> 00:45:49,957 All Ron wanted in the negotiations 991 00:45:49,997 --> 00:45:51,577 was control of the podcast. 992 00:45:53,876 --> 00:45:55,666 We had, like, 40 emails back and forth 993 00:45:55,711 --> 00:46:00,221 with his attorney about various details of the settlement. 994 00:46:00,257 --> 00:46:03,217 The podcast is mentioned, like, 40 times. 995 00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:05,600 Ron wants the podcast-- podcast, podcast, podcast. 996 00:46:05,637 --> 00:46:07,307 The white whale of a podcast 997 00:46:07,347 --> 00:46:08,847 is all Ron wants out of this fucking deal. 998 00:46:08,891 --> 00:46:09,731 In particular, with those kind of 999 00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,307 turnout numbers... 1000 00:46:11,351 --> 00:46:14,771 And Mike could have sustained a role 1001 00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:18,193 in something that grew enormously. 1002 00:46:18,233 --> 00:46:19,573 But it turned out that he really 1003 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:21,990 wasn't built for the big game. 1004 00:46:22,029 --> 00:46:25,409 Mike foolishly sent us a letter offering 1005 00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:29,289 to sell us his board seat for money, 1006 00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:31,998 which I was disappointed. 1007 00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:33,539 You know, if you want to-- 1008 00:46:33,582 --> 00:46:34,922 if you want to play hardball like that, 1009 00:46:34,958 --> 00:46:36,838 if you want to play the big game, 1010 00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:38,417 play all the way through. 1011 00:46:38,462 --> 00:46:40,672 Don't jack yourself off for less than $1 million 1012 00:46:40,714 --> 00:46:42,424 for the board seat. 1013 00:46:42,466 --> 00:46:44,256 Could have been worth much more to him if he'd held the line, 1014 00:46:44,301 --> 00:46:46,891 but anyway. 1015 00:46:46,929 --> 00:46:48,599 He would've had control of the greatest 1016 00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:50,519 super PAC in American history. 1017 00:46:52,726 --> 00:46:55,806 There are people that are actively working 1018 00:46:55,854 --> 00:46:59,154 to promulgate the myth that Ron and I were just 1019 00:46:59,191 --> 00:47:00,941 trying to get money out of it. 1020 00:47:00,984 --> 00:47:03,744 If I wanted money, I would have kept the damn thing 1021 00:47:03,779 --> 00:47:06,069 and beat the damn email list like they're going to 1022 00:47:06,114 --> 00:47:08,954 like a rented fucking mule, and made millions of dollars 1023 00:47:08,992 --> 00:47:10,622 just by grifting in the way that they did, 1024 00:47:10,661 --> 00:47:13,251 and I would have made 50 times more money. 1025 00:47:13,288 --> 00:47:16,248 There's some people that are fucking skating away 1026 00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:19,251 with this fucking story that deserve to have 1027 00:47:19,294 --> 00:47:21,514 what actually happened be told. 1028 00:47:21,547 --> 00:47:24,047 And it's fucking pissing me off. 1029 00:47:24,091 --> 00:47:26,301 There was some bad fucking shit happening 1030 00:47:26,343 --> 00:47:28,143 on this fucking campaign. 1031 00:47:28,178 --> 00:47:29,348 I need a break. 1032 00:47:46,738 --> 00:47:50,198 We love Trump! 1033 00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:52,702 We love Trump! 1034 00:47:52,744 --> 00:47:54,754 Businesses are boarded up. 1035 00:47:54,788 --> 00:47:56,368 Streets are blocked off. 1036 00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:58,205 We want Trump! 1037 00:47:58,250 --> 00:48:00,380 But pro-Trump demonstrators are undeterred, 1038 00:48:00,419 --> 00:48:03,259 descending on the nation's capitol with defiance. 1039 00:48:03,297 --> 00:48:07,507 Fight for Trump! 1040 00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:09,221 Tensions are rising in Washington, 1041 00:48:09,261 --> 00:48:11,101 where Congress is preparing to certify 1042 00:48:11,138 --> 00:48:13,968 President-elect Joe Biden's win. 1043 00:48:14,016 --> 00:48:17,136 It is not Joe Biden that rules this country. 1044 00:48:17,185 --> 00:48:20,475 George Soros does not rule this country. 1045 00:48:20,522 --> 00:48:23,402 It's not over because we, the people, 1046 00:48:23,442 --> 00:48:27,362 demand that the Supreme Court do their jobs. 1047 00:48:27,404 --> 00:48:30,954 We will take it back one way or another. 1048 00:48:30,991 --> 00:48:33,331 At least 13 GOP senators plan to challenge 1049 00:48:33,368 --> 00:48:35,038 the electoral college count, 1050 00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:37,578 which Biden won with 306 votes 1051 00:48:37,623 --> 00:48:40,333 to President Trump's 232. 1052 00:48:40,375 --> 00:48:41,705 America first! 1053 00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:44,252 America first! 1054 00:48:53,597 --> 00:48:56,137 All of us here today do not want to see 1055 00:48:56,183 --> 00:48:58,063 our election victory stolen. 1056 00:48:58,101 --> 00:48:59,561 We will never give up. 1057 00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:02,113 We will never concede. It doesn't happen. 1058 00:49:02,147 --> 00:49:05,107 You don't concede when there's theft involved. 1059 00:49:07,527 --> 00:49:11,987 And after this, we're going to walk down to the Capitol. 1060 00:49:13,825 --> 00:49:15,735 And I'll be there with you. 1061 00:49:15,786 --> 00:49:17,076 And we fight. 1062 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,830 We fight like hell. 1063 00:49:18,872 --> 00:49:20,542 And if you don't fight like hell, 1064 00:49:20,582 --> 00:49:22,002 you're not going to have a country anymore. 1065 00:49:22,042 --> 00:49:24,042 Fight for Trump! 1066 00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:25,456 Fight for Trump! 1067 00:49:25,504 --> 00:49:29,054 Donald Trump woke us up. 1068 00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:32,721 A highly mobilized army. 1069 00:49:32,761 --> 00:49:35,101 You think you can laugh at us? 1070 00:49:35,138 --> 00:49:36,388 We'll see who laughs last. 1071 00:49:39,142 --> 00:49:41,402 Why isn't the National Guard just coming in? 1072 00:49:41,436 --> 00:49:43,146 I mean, everyone has the right to protest, right? 1073 00:49:43,188 --> 00:49:45,268 And right now, it's peaceful. 1074 00:49:45,315 --> 00:49:46,855 - Is it peaceful? - Well, they're not-- 1075 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:48,820 If I'm not mistaken, they're throwing objects 1076 00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:51,660 - and trash at the cops and... - Are they? 1077 00:49:51,697 --> 00:49:54,617 ...attempting to break into the Capitol. 1078 00:49:54,658 --> 00:49:56,238 You just talked about crossroads. 1079 00:49:56,284 --> 00:50:00,254 And it's--to me, it's shocking. 1080 00:50:00,288 --> 00:50:02,248 It's pathetic. It's disgusting. 1081 00:50:02,290 --> 00:50:05,210 It's unbelievable, but this was planned. 1082 00:50:08,672 --> 00:50:10,382 No go! Whose house? 1083 00:50:16,513 --> 00:50:17,933 Americans never thought 1084 00:50:17,973 --> 00:50:19,523 that this would happen, because we assume 1085 00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:20,978 that things just get better. 1086 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:22,848 1776! 1087 00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:29,153 Is this the last gasp, Reed? 1088 00:50:29,192 --> 00:50:30,362 Or is this...? 1089 00:50:30,402 --> 00:50:32,362 I don't think so. 1090 00:50:32,404 --> 00:50:34,454 Why would it be? 1091 00:50:34,489 --> 00:50:35,869 He's not going to go away. 1092 00:50:35,907 --> 00:50:37,987 If anything, this-- this reinforces 1093 00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:39,865 these people's belief in him. 1094 00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:50,375 I'm convinced it's exactly what the president 1095 00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:51,592 wanted to have happen. 1096 00:50:53,633 --> 00:50:56,933 He's been laying the groundwork for exactly this 1097 00:50:56,970 --> 00:50:58,720 from the beginning of his campaign. 1098 00:51:02,934 --> 00:51:06,614 So the Defense Department has just denied 1099 00:51:06,646 --> 00:51:09,566 a request by the D.C. officials 1100 00:51:09,608 --> 00:51:11,648 to deploy more National Guards. 1101 00:51:11,693 --> 00:51:13,783 Oh, now they're-- you see the gun? 1102 00:51:13,820 --> 00:51:17,030 Look at this shit. Look at this. 1103 00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:18,534 Look at this shit. 1104 00:51:18,575 --> 00:51:20,075 Guns, yeah. 1105 00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:25,173 This is just the end result of four years 1106 00:51:25,207 --> 00:51:27,747 of them deciding that they just thought that the vampire 1107 00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:29,003 was going to be nice to 'em 1108 00:51:29,044 --> 00:51:31,764 once we invited him into the house. 1109 00:51:31,797 --> 00:51:35,377 They played around with a fucking black mamba, 1110 00:51:35,425 --> 00:51:37,585 and you know what? The fucker bit 'em. 1111 00:51:37,636 --> 00:51:39,716 Like, what the fuck did they think was going to happen? 1112 00:51:42,474 --> 00:51:45,524 One of our staffers is texting me and Rick. 1113 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,940 "I'm really worried about you guys. 1114 00:51:46,978 --> 00:51:48,608 I hope you guys are someplace safe." 1115 00:51:48,647 --> 00:51:50,437 And Rick just texts a picture of a 9 millimeter 1116 00:51:50,482 --> 00:51:52,032 with a silencer and an AR-15. 1117 00:51:52,067 --> 00:51:54,357 And he said, "I'm fine." 1118 00:51:59,157 --> 00:52:01,447 If they had found U.S. senators 1119 00:52:01,493 --> 00:52:03,833 who were not pure MAGA, 1120 00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:05,290 they would have killed them. 1121 00:52:05,330 --> 00:52:07,500 This was the plan. 1122 00:52:07,541 --> 00:52:09,581 This wasn't a coincidence. 1123 00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:11,916 I believe that we're in a civil war now. 1124 00:52:11,962 --> 00:52:15,762 USA! 1125 00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:18,889 This is the most despicable act that's ever 1126 00:52:18,927 --> 00:52:21,297 been incited by any president. 1127 00:52:22,889 --> 00:52:26,139 But Donald Trump didn't do this alone. 1128 00:52:26,184 --> 00:52:29,864 Always look for the coalition between the elites-- 1129 00:52:29,896 --> 00:52:32,226 Josh Hawley of Stanford University 1130 00:52:32,274 --> 00:52:34,324 and Yale Law School, 1131 00:52:34,359 --> 00:52:38,069 the Harvard Law School graduate Ted Cruz, 1132 00:52:38,113 --> 00:52:40,913 the propagandists, the liars. 1133 00:52:40,949 --> 00:52:43,989 And then, of course, the financiers. 1134 00:52:44,035 --> 00:52:45,995 How many corporations in this country 1135 00:52:46,037 --> 00:52:49,167 signed statements in support of Black Lives Matter, 1136 00:52:49,207 --> 00:52:53,127 and then also funded Mitch McConnell's super PAC 1137 00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:55,460 and Kevin McCarthy's super PAC? 1138 00:52:55,505 --> 00:52:58,585 All of these efforts that were supported 1139 00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:00,513 by these House Republicans were aimed 1140 00:53:00,552 --> 00:53:04,892 at disenfranchising millions of Black votes. 1141 00:53:04,931 --> 00:53:06,521 A lot of companies in this country 1142 00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:08,808 are going to have some decisions to make about 1143 00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:12,482 whether they want to support an autocratic movement 1144 00:53:12,522 --> 00:53:15,572 that does violence to our institutions, 1145 00:53:15,609 --> 00:53:18,819 that's led to the deaths of people on the basis of a lie. 1146 00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:21,202 It is a lie. 1147 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,409 These are domestic enemies. 1148 00:53:24,451 --> 00:53:26,371 This is what the word "domestic enemy" 1149 00:53:26,411 --> 00:53:29,161 means in the Constitution. 1150 00:53:29,206 --> 00:53:31,366 This has been an amoral 1151 00:53:31,416 --> 00:53:34,626 and an immoral regime. 1152 00:53:35,587 --> 00:53:36,667 What a tragic day. 1153 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,340 There will be no letup on our pressure 1154 00:53:41,384 --> 00:53:44,304 until Kevin McCarthy is removed from leadership. 1155 00:53:44,346 --> 00:53:47,176 There will be no letup on our public pressure 1156 00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:49,734 until Rick Scott is removed as the chairman 1157 00:53:49,768 --> 00:53:53,228 of the Senatorial Committee, the chief finance arm. 1158 00:53:53,271 --> 00:53:56,071 There will be no letup on this campaign 1159 00:53:56,107 --> 00:53:59,567 until Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley and Ron Johnson 1160 00:53:59,611 --> 00:54:03,241 are either expelled or resign or censured 1161 00:54:03,281 --> 00:54:05,241 by the United States Senate. 1162 00:54:09,663 --> 00:54:14,253 The goal of the organization was to defeat Donald Trump. 1163 00:54:17,337 --> 00:54:18,757 That wasn't enough. 1164 00:54:22,550 --> 00:54:24,510 In the end, 1165 00:54:24,552 --> 00:54:28,392 politics is a heartbreaking business. 1166 00:54:28,431 --> 00:54:31,021 I had death threats. 1167 00:54:31,059 --> 00:54:33,809 I had to move. 1168 00:54:33,853 --> 00:54:37,273 I had 20 boxes of human excrement 1169 00:54:37,315 --> 00:54:39,935 sent to my house. 1170 00:54:41,278 --> 00:54:44,408 But would I do it again? 1171 00:54:44,447 --> 00:54:48,907 And the answer is, I would. 1172 00:54:48,952 --> 00:54:51,622 And the reason I would is because I think 1173 00:54:51,663 --> 00:54:54,793 if this organization did not begin, 1174 00:54:54,833 --> 00:54:57,463 Donald Trump would have been narrowly re-elected. 1175 00:54:59,796 --> 00:55:03,506 Because this organization took the fight to Donald Trump, 1176 00:55:03,550 --> 00:55:04,970 then knocked Donald Trump on his ass. 1177 00:55:08,221 --> 00:55:11,601 And this country needs an organization... 1178 00:55:13,476 --> 00:55:14,976 ...that can fight. 1179 00:55:21,484 --> 00:55:24,114 We've all known people who are just kind of angry 1180 00:55:24,154 --> 00:55:25,204 all the time. 1181 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:30,910 Even in a beautiful country with, 1182 00:55:30,952 --> 00:55:32,582 you know, limitless opportunities, 1183 00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:35,870 there are still people who are just raging, pissed off. 1184 00:55:38,209 --> 00:55:41,959 I believe America is at an inflection point. 1185 00:55:42,005 --> 00:55:44,625 The American identity that we have known 1186 00:55:44,674 --> 00:55:47,804 is beginning to turn on our own institutions. 1187 00:55:49,346 --> 00:55:51,386 That is what Trumpism is. 1188 00:55:51,431 --> 00:55:52,681 It is about blame. 1189 00:55:52,724 --> 00:55:54,144 It is about grievance. 1190 00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:57,354 It is about anger. 1191 00:55:57,395 --> 00:56:01,015 There's something addicting about outrage, right? 1192 00:56:01,066 --> 00:56:02,856 That's part of what defines this era. 1193 00:56:02,901 --> 00:56:04,861 If you watch FOX News, 1194 00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:07,413 there's always something to be pissed off about-- 1195 00:56:07,447 --> 00:56:09,617 like, blow-your-stack, 1196 00:56:09,657 --> 00:56:12,947 veins-in-your-neck angry about. 1197 00:56:12,994 --> 00:56:14,204 And then they're going to sell it to you 1198 00:56:14,245 --> 00:56:16,535 because there's a lot of money in anger. 1199 00:56:16,581 --> 00:56:18,501 There's a lot of money in outrage. 1200 00:56:18,541 --> 00:56:20,211 We've monetized it. 1201 00:56:22,921 --> 00:56:26,341 A lot of campaigns require it. 1202 00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:28,053 And at a certain point, I think we all have 1203 00:56:28,093 --> 00:56:30,513 an obligation to say, 1204 00:56:30,553 --> 00:56:33,813 "Is making money out of an outrage machine 1205 00:56:33,848 --> 00:56:36,058 helping democracy, or is it hurting it?" 1206 00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:42,232 And after 30 years, does that wear on your soul? 1207 00:56:44,234 --> 00:56:46,034 Fuck yeah, it wears on your soul. 1208 00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:48,529 Anybody who says it doesn't is full of crap. 1209 00:57:02,961 --> 00:57:05,001 But make no mistake, 1210 00:57:05,046 --> 00:57:07,756 the idea that The Lincoln Project story 1211 00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:10,179 is a story of the good people against the bad people 1212 00:57:10,218 --> 00:57:12,598 is a very naive take on this. 1213 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,850 Cover your eyes! 94637

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