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Hello and welcome to Global Eye
from the BBC World Service.
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Each week, we bring
our most compelling journalism,
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from ground-breaking
and exclusive investigations
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to remarkable human stories
from around the world.
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I'm Mahjooba Nowrouzi,
BBC senior journalist,
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and this week we are in Afghanistan.
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Coming up on the programme,
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BBC Eye goes inside
Afghanistan's Taliban government,
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with rare access
to senior officials.
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And we will bring you
the inspiring story
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of the Afghan women's football team
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back on the international stage
after a historic Fifa rule change.
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My dream now
is to have a free country,
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and be able to travel back home.
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I was born in Afghanistan,
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and I have been covering
this country for many years.
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But since 2021, my work has been
shaped by constant barriers.
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As a female journalist,
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officials from
the Taliban government
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often refuse to speak directly to me
or share the same camera frame.
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I face restricted access
to locations,
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rigid dress codes,
the need for a male companion,
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and the requirement
for work permits.
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Even speaking with people
on the street
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can bring unwanted questioning
from security
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or intelligence personnel.
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These challenges are routine now,
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yet they have strengthened
my resolve
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to give voice to the realities
of life in Afghanistan.
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My recent reporting has focused
on Afghan women's resilience
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under growing restrictions.
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Their stories have reinforced
the importance
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of bearing witness
to both the challenges people face
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and the resolve they show
in overcoming it.
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Later in the programme,
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I will bring you
the extraordinary story
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of Afghan women's football team
in exile.
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But first, few journalists have been
granted the kind of access
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that my colleague, Kawoon Khamoosh,
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has secured inside
Afghanistan's Taliban leadership.
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He followed senior figures
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as they navigated the shift
from insurgency to government,
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offering a rare insight into the men
now shaping the country's future.
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This is his film.
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After 20 years of conflict,
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the Taliban emerge
as Afghanistan's new rulers.
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This was a huge moment
for Zabihullah Mujahid.
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As the Taliban's chief spokesman,
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he had been a target for Afghanistan
and US forces.
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For over two decades,
he operated in the shadows.
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Now that the Americans are gone,
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he can show his face in public
for the first time.
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Now his base is this press centre
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the Americans built
for the previous government.
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Like much of Afghanistan, the media
has undergone drastic changes
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in the last five years.
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Almost every journalist
I've met told me
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that they were summoned
or questioned
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by the intelligence.
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Why that's happening?
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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One of the media channels
that has seen a dramatic shift
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is Tolo TV -
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one of the biggest
and most influential in the country.
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It was once filled with music...
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...entertainment...
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...and news programmes
that criticised the Taliban.
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Now it is subjected to editorial
restrictions by the Taliban.
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Recently, the Taliban arrested
two presenters of Tolo TV
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and held them for two weeks.
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Today, Zabihullah Mujahid
is here to meet with them.
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This isn't Zabihullah Mujahid's
first run-in with Tolo TV.
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SIRENS BLARE
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Ten years ago, the Taliban
sent a suicide bomber
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to target Tolo TV staff.
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7 people were killed
and 25 wounded.
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As the Taliban's spokesman,
he defended the attack.
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Survivors of the attack on Tolo TV
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are too afraid
to appear in the media.
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But one man who suffered
life-changing injuries
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in the Tolo bombing told me that
he will never forgive or forget.
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SIREN WAILS
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The Taliban suicide attacks
killed thousands in Afghanistan,
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including many civilians.
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Two years ago, we went to see
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the man responsible
for some of those bombings.
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Habibullah Badr is
in charge of this prison.
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He was on death row here,
waiting to be executed,
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when the Taliban took power.
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He turned from being
a death row prisoner...
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...to a prison boss.
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Habibullah Badr is eager
to talk about
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how the previous government
treated Taliban prisoners.
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But he doesn't seem interested
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to talk about
what led to his imprisonment.
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This city was a traditional
stronghold against the Taliban.
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Now that the Taliban are in power,
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they are trying to show
that they are not just insurgents.
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Abdullah Sarhadi
is the local governor.
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He's a former prisoner
in Guantanamo Bay
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and is highly respected
and revered by the Taliban.
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We are given unprecedented access
to film his daily meetings
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with local people,
who come to him with their problems.
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PHONE RINGS
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Recently,
the Taliban banned smartphones
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for government employees.
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It has slowed down
the governor's work.
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Although he is allowing us in,
he doesn't want everything recorded.
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He wraps up most of
his meetings quickly,
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sometimes between two sips of tea.
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But one case
dominates the governor's day.
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It's a divorce issue
involving an 18-year-old woman.
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To protect her identity, we have had
someone else voice her words.
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In Sharia,
if a woman initiates divorce,
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she may have to repay the dowry
her husband gave her.
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I am astonished by
what I just witnessed.
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This brave woman knows her rights
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and it's making it difficult
for the governor.
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This is the Taliban's power base,
Kandahar,
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where the supreme leader,
Hibatullah Akhundzada, is based.
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And that's why it is seen
as the de facto capital.
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It's where I meet
Zabihullah Mujahid again,
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the Taliban's chief spokesman.
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He is a hotline
to the Taliban's leader
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and now spends much of his time
here in Kandahar.
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During the war,
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this entire area
used to be on the front line.
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He seems to miss the years in hiding
and using a fake name.
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But now settled in power,
he makes a huge decision -
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to reveal his true identity
for the first time.
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Many senior Taliban figures,
who spent years in the shadows,
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now display the same confidence.
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While these senior leaders
operate freely,
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those who oppose them
have gone into hiding,
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especially women, who have been
erased from public life.
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SHOUTING
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GUNFIRE
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When they do fight back...
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...they face harsh crackdowns.
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Back in Sheberghan City,
the governor has now heard all sides
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involved in the
18-year-old woman's divorce case,
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including her husband,
who wants five times the dowry.
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It is $30,000.
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Upon returning
to power five years ago,
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the Taliban said they have changed.
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But it's a country run by men,
for men.
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And you promised
that you will respect human rights.
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You will allow women to participate
in all aspects of life,
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work and study. Why did you fail
to keep your promise?
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It is two years
since I last met Habibullah Badr,
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the prison boss
and former suicide bombing planner.
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Today he is receiving an award
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at a tribal gathering
for his services to the country.
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An awkward moment
for the crowd here.
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They didn't expect him
to raise such a sensitive topic.
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We take a drive through Kabul
in an armoured car,
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the type of vehicle used
by previous government officials
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to protect them from the kind
of bombings he used to plan.
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I remind him of the list
of Taliban suicide attacks
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where civilians were killed,
but he changes the topic.
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Back in his luxurious home,
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now that he is no longer
in charge of prisons,
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he is willing to discuss his past.
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The Taliban's position
is one of isolation.
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More than two thirds of people
are unemployed.
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And the US has frozen billions
of dollars of the country's assets.
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Afghanistan has a history
of political upheavals.
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It's not clear
how long the Taliban can last.
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But the biggest threat
to their survival
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is from within
the Taliban themselves.
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The erosion of women's rights
under the Taliban government
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means, today, Afghan women face
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some of the world's
most severe restrictions.
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They are barred from
secondary school and university.
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They must cover their faces
and bodies in public.
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They are forbidden
from making direct eye contact
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with men
who are not close relatives.
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And they are prohibited from playing
sport or competing in events.
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But against all odds,
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Afghanistan's women's
football team in exile
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has found a way back
onto the international stage.
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Earlier this year,
FIFA gave permission
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for them to represent Afghanistan
in official competitions,
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without requiring the approval
of the Taliban government.
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For the BBC Global Women,
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I have been following
their remarkable journey.
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The players have flown from all over
the world to meet in New Zealand.
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It's the first time they have
all been together
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in over seven months,
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and it is their chance
to begin competing
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for a spot on the national squad.
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Do you like it? Yeah. It's nice.
It's really nice
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to have our three colours
on our chest.
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Perfect. OK. Can I get you to...?
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Najma, who has travelled
from Doncaster in England,
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where she now lives, is trying on
the new kit for the first time.
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It's something very rare
and special not being able to...
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You're playing for your country
but you are not in your country.
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It's been five years.
We are getting older and older
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and we haven't
got a new generation.
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Good.
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I was bullied throughout high school
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and football gave me the confidence
to be who I am today
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and to be able to speak loud.
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So I don't know where I would be!
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Two, three, go.
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Mursal, who has
been living in Melbourne,
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has accessorised her kit
with her nails.
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Nice!
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I wanted to use this platform
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to advocate
for the women of Afghanistan
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who haven't been allowed to study
for the past five years.
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Obviously the book and the flags
and the date, August 15th,
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the date that Afghanistan fell.
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My dream now to have a free country
and be able to travel back home.
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The team start their training camp
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to prepare for their first match
since the rule change,
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against the Cook Islands
at the end of the week.
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Three, two, one!
Afghanistan!
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Whenever I find myself
in a dark situation,
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I think about it and I'm like,
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"Girl, right now, you're the light
for women back home.
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"So don't give up. Keep burning."
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UNTRANSLATED SPEECH
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Mursal fled from Afghanistan
to Australia in 2021,
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and has been there ever since.
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She hasn't seen her family in person
since she left the country.
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In August 2021,
the airport was not like an airport.
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The first gate -
when I went with my mum,
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they put a gun towards me.
It was like, "Where is your man?"
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I was panicking
and my mother said that,
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"Oh, our men
made it inside the airport.
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"We were left outside
and we got separated."
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So she handled the situation.
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And that's
when I had my best friend, Rasia,
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who is also part of the team,
and she was 17 at the time -
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that's when I broke down.
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Literally, like, I put
my head on her shoulders -
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I remember - and I started crying.
I was like, "This is the end."
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I think for me,
every time, it's very hard
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to talk about, like, Afghan women
and girls
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because I feel very privileged
and...
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Do you feel guilty?
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I feel guilty.
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It's like you're not doing enough.
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You need to work harder,
twice as others, to...
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...to be proud, I think.
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Sometimes my parents
are saying like,
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"You're putting too much
pressure on yourself."
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But I'm like,
"I should put the pressure."
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OK, ladies,
it's officially game day.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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UNTRANSLATED SPEECH
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Enjoy. Oh, yeah. That's the point.
Keep the ball as long as you want.
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Three. Two. One,
Afghanistan!
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WHISTLE BLOWS
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We want to win the game.
Just visualising the positivity!
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Despite playing their hardest,
the team lose the game.
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With the result that we got,
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obviously we're very disappointed
with the result, that 3-0.
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Girls, I'm so proud of
our young players who played today.
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Very great game. Don't cry.
Don't put your heads down.
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It's more than football for us.
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You have loads of things
on your shoulders,
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so be mindful of that
and you're giving your best, OK?
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I'm proud of...
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Being able to represent your country
is the greatest honour,
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but if I don't make it to the squad,
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of course I will be disappointed
and sad.
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And it's natural, I think.
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But I would be proud of the team
and proud of myself
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that I was part of the journey
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and we made the history
by being the first football team
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to get our recognition
without the approval of the Taliban.
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We don't know when we're going
to see each other again,
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but it's just always amazing
to have this second family.
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One. Two. Three.
Afghanistan!
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Thanks for joining me
in Afghanistan.
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We will be back in two weeks.
Goodbye.
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