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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,719 Hello and welcome to Global Eye from the BBC World Service. 2 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,279 Each week, we bring our most compelling journalism, 3 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,039 from ground-breaking and exclusive investigations 4 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,199 to remarkable human stories from around the world. 5 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,879 I'm Mahjooba Nowrouzi, BBC senior journalist, 6 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,959 and this week we are in Afghanistan. 7 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,679 Coming up on the programme, 8 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,439 BBC Eye goes inside Afghanistan's Taliban government, 9 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,200 with rare access to senior officials. 10 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,839 And we will bring you the inspiring story 11 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,399 of the Afghan women's football team 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,599 back on the international stage after a historic Fifa rule change. 13 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,639 My dream now is to have a free country, 14 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,320 and be able to travel back home. 15 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,879 I was born in Afghanistan, 16 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,519 and I have been covering this country for many years. 17 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:35,359 But since 2021, my work has been shaped by constant barriers. 18 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,919 As a female journalist, 19 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,519 officials from the Taliban government 20 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:46,239 often refuse to speak directly to me or share the same camera frame. 21 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,479 I face restricted access to locations, 22 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,799 rigid dress codes, the need for a male companion, 23 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,880 and the requirement for work permits. 24 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,159 Even speaking with people on the street 25 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,719 can bring unwanted questioning from security 26 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,959 or intelligence personnel. 27 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,319 These challenges are routine now, 28 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,559 yet they have strengthened my resolve 29 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,160 to give voice to the realities of life in Afghanistan. 30 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,159 My recent reporting has focused on Afghan women's resilience 31 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,879 under growing restrictions. 32 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,279 Their stories have reinforced the importance 33 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,279 of bearing witness to both the challenges people face 34 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,160 and the resolve they show in overcoming it. 35 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,359 Later in the programme, 36 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,839 I will bring you the extraordinary story 37 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,599 of Afghan women's football team in exile. 38 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,919 But first, few journalists have been granted the kind of access 39 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,199 that my colleague, Kawoon Khamoosh, 40 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:57,199 has secured inside Afghanistan's Taliban leadership. 41 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,519 He followed senior figures 42 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:05,959 as they navigated the shift from insurgency to government, 43 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:12,079 offering a rare insight into the men now shaping the country's future. 44 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,600 This is his film. 45 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,679 After 20 years of conflict, 46 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,000 the Taliban emerge as Afghanistan's new rulers. 47 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,119 This was a huge moment for Zabihullah Mujahid. 48 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,079 As the Taliban's chief spokesman, 49 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,559 he had been a target for Afghanistan and US forces. 50 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,760 For over two decades, he operated in the shadows. 51 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,959 Now that the Americans are gone, 52 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,240 he can show his face in public for the first time. 53 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,039 Now his base is this press centre 54 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,640 the Americans built for the previous government. 55 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,079 Like much of Afghanistan, the media has undergone drastic changes 56 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,999 in the last five years. 57 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,479 Almost every journalist I've met told me 58 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,759 that they were summoned or questioned 59 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,639 by the intelligence. 60 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,360 Why that's happening? 61 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,999 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 62 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,079 One of the media channels that has seen a dramatic shift 63 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,679 is Tolo TV - 64 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,080 one of the biggest and most influential in the country. 65 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,119 It was once filled with music... 66 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,920 ...entertainment... 67 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,120 ...and news programmes that criticised the Taliban. 68 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Now it is subjected to editorial restrictions by the Taliban. 69 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:53,959 Recently, the Taliban arrested two presenters of Tolo TV 70 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,760 and held them for two weeks. 71 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,840 Today, Zabihullah Mujahid is here to meet with them. 72 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,519 This isn't Zabihullah Mujahid's first run-in with Tolo TV. 73 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,559 SIRENS BLARE 74 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,399 Ten years ago, the Taliban sent a suicide bomber 75 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,360 to target Tolo TV staff. 76 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,240 7 people were killed and 25 wounded. 77 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:47,320 As the Taliban's spokesman, he defended the attack. 78 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,999 Survivors of the attack on Tolo TV 79 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,559 are too afraid to appear in the media. 80 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,239 But one man who suffered life-changing injuries 81 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,439 in the Tolo bombing told me that he will never forgive or forget. 82 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,320 SIREN WAILS 83 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,399 The Taliban suicide attacks killed thousands in Afghanistan, 84 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,360 including many civilians. 85 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,959 Two years ago, we went to see 86 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,840 the man responsible for some of those bombings. 87 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Habibullah Badr is in charge of this prison. 88 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,079 He was on death row here, waiting to be executed, 89 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,680 when the Taliban took power. 90 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,120 He turned from being a death row prisoner... 91 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,560 ...to a prison boss. 92 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,239 Habibullah Badr is eager to talk about 93 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,360 how the previous government treated Taliban prisoners. 94 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,079 But he doesn't seem interested 95 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,040 to talk about what led to his imprisonment. 96 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,760 This city was a traditional stronghold against the Taliban. 97 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,879 Now that the Taliban are in power, 98 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,480 they are trying to show that they are not just insurgents. 99 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,719 Abdullah Sarhadi is the local governor. 100 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,359 He's a former prisoner in Guantanamo Bay 101 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,880 and is highly respected and revered by the Taliban. 102 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,119 We are given unprecedented access to film his daily meetings 103 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,440 with local people, who come to him with their problems. 104 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,759 PHONE RINGS 105 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,359 Recently, the Taliban banned smartphones 106 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,799 for government employees. 107 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 It has slowed down the governor's work. 108 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,200 Although he is allowing us in, he doesn't want everything recorded. 109 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,239 He wraps up most of his meetings quickly, 110 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,880 sometimes between two sips of tea. 111 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,600 But one case dominates the governor's day. 112 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,480 It's a divorce issue involving an 18-year-old woman. 113 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,480 To protect her identity, we have had someone else voice her words. 114 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,199 In Sharia, if a woman initiates divorce, 115 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,320 she may have to repay the dowry her husband gave her. 116 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,759 I am astonished by what I just witnessed. 117 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,919 This brave woman knows her rights 118 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,520 and it's making it difficult for the governor. 119 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,239 This is the Taliban's power base, Kandahar, 120 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,359 where the supreme leader, Hibatullah Akhundzada, is based. 121 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,440 And that's why it is seen as the de facto capital. 122 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,439 It's where I meet Zabihullah Mujahid again, 123 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,159 the Taliban's chief spokesman. 124 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,319 He is a hotline to the Taliban's leader 125 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,280 and now spends much of his time here in Kandahar. 126 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:36,879 During the war, 127 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,959 this entire area used to be on the front line. 128 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,280 He seems to miss the years in hiding and using a fake name. 129 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,879 But now settled in power, he makes a huge decision - 130 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,360 to reveal his true identity for the first time. 131 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,239 Many senior Taliban figures, who spent years in the shadows, 132 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,280 now display the same confidence. 133 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,759 While these senior leaders operate freely, 134 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,319 those who oppose them have gone into hiding, 135 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,800 especially women, who have been erased from public life. 136 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,439 SHOUTING 137 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,560 GUNFIRE 138 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,160 When they do fight back... 139 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,360 ...they face harsh crackdowns. 140 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,119 Back in Sheberghan City, the governor has now heard all sides 141 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,399 involved in the 18-year-old woman's divorce case, 142 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,759 including her husband, who wants five times the dowry. 143 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,840 It is $30,000. 144 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,999 Upon returning to power five years ago, 145 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,080 the Taliban said they have changed. 146 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,159 But it's a country run by men, for men. 147 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,199 And you promised that you will respect human rights. 148 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,519 You will allow women to participate in all aspects of life, 149 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,760 work and study. Why did you fail to keep your promise? 150 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,559 It is two years since I last met Habibullah Badr, 151 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 the prison boss and former suicide bombing planner. 152 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,039 Today he is receiving an award 153 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,400 at a tribal gathering for his services to the country. 154 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,359 An awkward moment for the crowd here. 155 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:02,080 They didn't expect him to raise such a sensitive topic. 156 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,119 We take a drive through Kabul in an armoured car, 157 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:18,119 the type of vehicle used by previous government officials 158 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:22,200 to protect them from the kind of bombings he used to plan. 159 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,639 I remind him of the list of Taliban suicide attacks 160 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,840 where civilians were killed, but he changes the topic. 161 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,119 Back in his luxurious home, 162 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:03,719 now that he is no longer in charge of prisons, 163 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,720 he is willing to discuss his past. 164 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,279 The Taliban's position is one of isolation. 165 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,160 More than two thirds of people are unemployed. 166 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,160 And the US has frozen billions of dollars of the country's assets. 167 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,760 Afghanistan has a history of political upheavals. 168 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,400 It's not clear how long the Taliban can last. 169 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,399 But the biggest threat to their survival 170 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,240 is from within the Taliban themselves. 171 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,079 The erosion of women's rights under the Taliban government 172 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,359 means, today, Afghan women face 173 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:34,199 some of the world's most severe restrictions. 174 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,599 They are barred from secondary school and university. 175 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,799 They must cover their faces and bodies in public. 176 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,919 They are forbidden from making direct eye contact 177 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,279 with men who are not close relatives. 178 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:55,519 And they are prohibited from playing sport or competing in events. 179 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,319 But against all odds, 180 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,639 Afghanistan's women's football team in exile 181 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,239 has found a way back onto the international stage. 182 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,279 Earlier this year, FIFA gave permission 183 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,719 for them to represent Afghanistan in official competitions, 184 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,399 without requiring the approval of the Taliban government. 185 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,319 For the BBC Global Women, 186 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,600 I have been following their remarkable journey. 187 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,519 The players have flown from all over the world to meet in New Zealand. 188 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,599 It's the first time they have all been together 189 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,079 in over seven months, 190 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,719 and it is their chance to begin competing 191 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,119 for a spot on the national squad. 192 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,199 Do you like it? Yeah. It's nice. It's really nice 193 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,639 to have our three colours on our chest. 194 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,519 Perfect. OK. Can I get you to...? 195 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,799 Najma, who has travelled from Doncaster in England, 196 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,679 where she now lives, is trying on the new kit for the first time. 197 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,199 It's something very rare and special not being able to... 198 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,719 You're playing for your country but you are not in your country. 199 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,399 It's been five years. We are getting older and older 200 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,239 and we haven't got a new generation. 201 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,159 Good. 202 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,799 I was bullied throughout high school 203 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,839 and football gave me the confidence to be who I am today 204 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,799 and to be able to speak loud. 205 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,359 So I don't know where I would be! 206 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,599 Two, three, go. 207 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,999 Mursal, who has been living in Melbourne, 208 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,439 has accessorised her kit with her nails. 209 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,479 Nice! 210 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,919 I wanted to use this platform 211 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,999 to advocate for the women of Afghanistan 212 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,919 who haven't been allowed to study for the past five years. 213 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,799 Obviously the book and the flags and the date, August 15th, 214 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,199 the date that Afghanistan fell. 215 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:45,960 My dream now to have a free country and be able to travel back home. 216 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,319 The team start their training camp 217 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,199 to prepare for their first match since the rule change, 218 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,599 against the Cook Islands at the end of the week. 219 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,960 Three, two, one! Afghanistan! 220 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,679 Whenever I find myself in a dark situation, 221 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,159 I think about it and I'm like, 222 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,239 "Girl, right now, you're the light for women back home. 223 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,399 "So don't give up. Keep burning." 224 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,960 UNTRANSLATED SPEECH 225 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,919 Mursal fled from Afghanistan to Australia in 2021, 226 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,199 and has been there ever since. 227 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,079 She hasn't seen her family in person since she left the country. 228 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,359 In August 2021, the airport was not like an airport. 229 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,159 The first gate - when I went with my mum, 230 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,639 they put a gun towards me. It was like, "Where is your man?" 231 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,559 I was panicking and my mother said that, 232 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,399 "Oh, our men made it inside the airport. 233 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,479 "We were left outside and we got separated." 234 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,239 So she handled the situation. 235 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,959 And that's when I had my best friend, Rasia, 236 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,559 who is also part of the team, and she was 17 at the time - 237 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,319 that's when I broke down. 238 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,839 Literally, like, I put my head on her shoulders - 239 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,360 I remember - and I started crying. I was like, "This is the end." 240 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,639 I think for me, every time, it's very hard 241 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,879 to talk about, like, Afghan women and girls 242 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,359 because I feel very privileged and... 243 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:17,999 Do you feel guilty? 244 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,279 I feel guilty. 245 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,679 It's like you're not doing enough. 246 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,559 You need to work harder, twice as others, to... 247 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,039 ...to be proud, I think. 248 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,759 Sometimes my parents are saying like, 249 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,759 "You're putting too much pressure on yourself." 250 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,240 But I'm like, "I should put the pressure." 251 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,120 OK, ladies, it's officially game day. 252 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,240 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 253 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,240 UNTRANSLATED SPEECH 254 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,520 Enjoy. Oh, yeah. That's the point. Keep the ball as long as you want. 255 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,759 Three. Two. One, Afghanistan! 256 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,400 WHISTLE BLOWS 257 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,000 We want to win the game. Just visualising the positivity! 258 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,999 Despite playing their hardest, the team lose the game. 259 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,519 With the result that we got, 260 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,639 obviously we're very disappointed with the result, that 3-0. 261 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,599 Girls, I'm so proud of our young players who played today. 262 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,439 Very great game. Don't cry. Don't put your heads down. 263 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,159 It's more than football for us. 264 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,399 You have loads of things on your shoulders, 265 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,079 so be mindful of that and you're giving your best, OK? 266 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,119 I'm proud of... 267 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,679 Being able to represent your country is the greatest honour, 268 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,839 but if I don't make it to the squad, 269 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,679 of course I will be disappointed and sad. 270 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,199 And it's natural, I think. 271 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,639 But I would be proud of the team and proud of myself 272 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,439 that I was part of the journey 273 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,719 and we made the history by being the first football team 274 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,719 to get our recognition without the approval of the Taliban. 275 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,799 We don't know when we're going to see each other again, 276 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,479 but it's just always amazing to have this second family. 277 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,480 One. Two. Three. Afghanistan! 278 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,519 Thanks for joining me in Afghanistan. 279 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000 We will be back in two weeks. Goodbye. 23013

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