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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:07,000 (tense music) 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,960 I'm David Wilson, emeritus professor of criminology. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,960 And for over 30 years, I've investigated 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,960 the phenomenon of murder and what it is that might 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,960 motivate someone to kill. 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Every murder case is different. 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,960 But time and again, a deadly pattern emerges 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,960 of warning signs and red flags. 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,960 In this new series, I investigate some of the UK's 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,960 most harrowing murder cases to understand how and why 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 these terrible crimes occur. 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,960 This is "Murder UK." 13 00:01:06,960 --> 00:01:12,960 (gentle music) 14 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:29,960 In 1994, in Bordesley Green in Birmingham, 15 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:34,960 Eric Lloyd is being nursed by his Filipino partner, Marie Whiston. 16 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:38,640 She's a nurse, and they live together in his home. 17 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,320 Eric Lloyd was eight years older than Marie. 18 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:49,960 (ominous music) 19 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,960 On the surface, it looks like this gentle nurse 20 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:59,960 is taking care of an ill man and looking after him. 21 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,960 I mean, nursing would have been just 22 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:11,960 the most natural profession for somebody with Marie's personality. 23 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,960 (Sarah Jarvis) I was a medical student, and I supported myself 24 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,800 through medical school by working as a nursing assistant 25 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,960 in a psychogeriatric hospital, where I was surrounded 26 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,960 by nurses from the Philippines. 27 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,960 There was a huge influx of nurses from the Philippines 28 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,960 around about that time. 29 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,000 They were incredibly devoted, 30 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,960 but they also worked very, very long hours. 31 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,960 So if Eric knew that Marie was a nurse, 32 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,960 he might have thought that she would be both excellent at caring 33 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,960 and also very, very grateful to have him 34 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,160 to care for her financially. 35 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,960 (David Wilson) Eric's medical records show that early on 36 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,960 in his relationship with Marie, 37 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,960 he suffers two mystery health scares, 38 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,960 both ending in a hospital emergency room. 39 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,960 (tense music) 40 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Shortly after getting together with Eric, 41 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Eric is rushed to hospital on two separate occasions, 42 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,960 suffering from excess insulin in his blood. 43 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,960 (David) Doctors are stunned. 44 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,960 Eric isn't diabetic, 45 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,480 so why would he have insulin in his system? 46 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,960 The only way to have too much insulin 47 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,960 is if you're given too much insulin. 48 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,960 Then your blood sugar can drop through the floor. 49 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,960 In the early stages, that can lead to feeling hungry, 50 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,960 feeling generally unwell, feeling lightheaded, 51 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,960 possibly having blurred vision, feeling irritable and angry. 52 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,960 As time goes on, with a more severe episode of hypoglycaemia, 53 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,800 you can come disorientated. 54 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,960 You can act very oddly. You can become confused. 55 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,480 You can collapse. You can have seizures. 56 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,320 And in extreme cases, it can cause abnormal heart rhythms 57 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,960 and even death. 58 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Since Eric wasn't diabetic, the critical question is obvious. 59 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,160 Did his own partner and nurse, Marie Whiston, 60 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,960 deliberately inject him with insulin? 61 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,160 (Sarah) It is not something you take without knowing it. 62 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,160 You can't eat insulin. 63 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,960 If you take insulin in oral form, 64 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,960 then it doesn't get absorbed into your system, 65 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,960 so it needs to be given by injection. 66 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Eric knows that that just isn't possible. 67 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,800 He hasn't been injecting insulin. 68 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,960 So what sense can he make of this? 69 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,960 And does he suspect Marie? 70 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,960 And yet he remains with her. 71 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,960 I think that, quite simply, Eric Lloyd needs Marie at this stage. 72 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,160 Two years on from his two health scares, 73 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Eric seems to have recovered, until one day, 74 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,960 the inexplicable illness strikes again. 75 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,960 Marie was working a night shift at the hospital. 76 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,960 She came home from work and found Eric dead. 77 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:37,960 (door creaks) 78 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,960 An unexplained, unexpected death. 79 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,960 (David) Eric's death appears to be from natural causes, 80 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,960 but not everyone agrees. 81 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,960 One former police officer in particular, Stephanie Stevens, 82 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,960 begins to harbour serious doubt. 83 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,960 I was working as a coroner's officer 84 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,960 for the West Midlands Police. 85 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,960 If emergency services are called, if there's a sudden death, 86 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,960 then usually it would be the ambulance service 87 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,960 who arrive first. It might be the police service who arrive first, 88 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,960 depending on the circumstances. 89 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,960 If they have concerns, any concerns, 90 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,960 they are required to inform the coroner's service. 91 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,800 And the coroner's assistant will be informed. 92 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,960 And on this occasion, the coroner's assistant, 93 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,160 Stephanie Stevens, actually attended the scene. 94 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,960 I always remember it was a Friday. 95 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,960 And it was about midday. 96 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,960 I had a phone call from a GP who said that 97 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,960 one of her patients had died. 98 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,640 And it was unexpected. 99 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,960 And she obviously needed to refer it to the coroner. 100 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,960 I went out, went to the house in Belchers Lane, 101 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Bordesley Green in Birmingham, 102 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,480 which is right opposite to Heartlands Hospital. 103 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,640 (David) Heartlands Hospital is where Marie works. 104 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Marie opened the door wearing her nurse's uniform. 105 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,960 I went upstairs, walked past a very pretty bedroom, 106 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,960 which was obviously her room, walked into his bedroom, 107 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,960 and he was lying across the bed, very, very sparse bedroom... 108 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,640 just a bed and a set of drawers. 109 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,640 And he was dead, obviously. 110 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,960 So I examined the body... very, very cold. 111 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,960 He'd been dead for a long, long time. 112 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,160 And immediately, Stephanie is concerned and suspicious. 113 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,960 That is entirely due to Marie Whiston's reactions. 114 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,960 I was met by a woman dressed in a nurse's uniform. 115 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Straight away, I was just like, this is really weird 116 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,800 because it was midday. 117 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:08,320 And why...why had she only just reported it? 118 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Went downstairs to speak to her. 119 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,960 And I said, why are you still in your uniform? 120 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,960 And she said, well, I've just finished nights. 121 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,960 I said, this is midday. 122 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,960 Well, I went out to the shops. 123 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,480 My first impression of Marie Whiston was that 124 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,960 she was lying. 125 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,960 She was absolutely lying. 126 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,960 (David) But it is Marie's unusual way of grieving 127 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,960 that strikes Stephanie Stevens as most suspicious. 128 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,960 She was trying to cry, but there was no tears. 129 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,800 And she was looking out the corner of her eyes 130 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,960 to see if I was looking. 131 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,160 And I was looking. 132 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,160 And I could tell that she was lying. 133 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,960 Marie Whiston appeared to be very upset, 134 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,960 but she felt that her tears were crocodile tears. 135 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:12,960 She felt that her concern and her upset was totally false. 136 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,960 If you don't mind me doing this, this is what she was doing. 137 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Trying to cry but not letting me see. 138 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,960 And I was just... 139 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,960 there's something really weird about you. 140 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,480 (David) What Stephanie Stevens seemed to be picking up on 141 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,960 is that Marie Whiston was performing grief, 142 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,320 almost as if she was conforming to a script, 143 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,960 that it wasn't authentic. 144 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,000 It wasn't emotional. 145 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,960 It wasn't grief. 146 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,960 You know, grief is overwhelming. 147 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,960 Grief is all-encompassing. 148 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,960 And you can't therefore switch it on or switch it off again, 149 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,960 depending on who's watching you and how they are 150 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,960 reacting to you being in grief. 151 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,960 So I think that's quite interesting, 152 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,960 that what Marie Whiston seemed to do 153 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,960 was perform a script, as opposed to actually 154 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,320 having those genuine feelings. 155 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,960 Marie also seems unusually anxious for Eric 156 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,960 to be cremated as soon as possible. 157 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,960 Stephanie also was very concerned that Marie Whiston 158 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:33,320 appeared obsessed with finding out when and whether 159 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Eric could be cremated. 160 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,960 All she said was, I want him cremated. 161 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,960 I need him cremated straight away. 162 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,960 (Sarah) Now, of course, Stephanie Stevens, 163 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 with her experience with the coroner's office, 164 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,960 would have been very aware that a postmortem is impossible 165 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,960 once a patient has been cremated. 166 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,960 And, of course, there is no chance of going back 167 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,160 to look for further evidence. 168 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,960 (Stephanie Stevens) And straight away, 169 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,960 I'd got this instinct that she was trying to hide something. 170 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,960 (David) Cremation is probably the ultimate form 171 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,960 of destroying forensic evidence. 172 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,960 You are literally burning the body, 173 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,320 and therefore, any toxins within the body, 174 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,960 any physical marks on the body 175 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,960 are immediately going to be destroyed because, of course, 176 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,960 the body will be burned. 177 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,960 And therefore pushing in the way that Marie Whiston did 178 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,960 for an early cremation is, again, going to raise suspicions 179 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,320 in the same way that her performance of grief 180 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,960 had raised suspicions. 181 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,800 This was, frankly, another red flag. 182 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,640 (Sarah) So she then does some looking around. 183 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,480 She is suspicious enough that she looks around the scene. 184 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,960 She noticed that Eric had vomited, that there was a pool of vomit. 185 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Now, this would be very unusual if a patient 186 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,960 had simply had a cardiac arrest. 187 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,960 If a death is reported to the coroner, 188 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,960 then it's the coroner's job... 189 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,960 them and their coroner's assistant... 190 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,960 to decide whether there are any suspicious circumstances. 191 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,960 If they do feel that there may be suspicious circumstances... 192 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,960 they don't have to have proof at this stage... 193 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,960 but if they feel there may be suspicious circumstances, 194 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,480 then firstly, they will report it to the police. 195 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,000 They will decide whether a forensic postmortem, 196 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,960 taking much, much more careful note 197 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,960 of what's going on, will happen. 198 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,960 And of course, they can decide that a death certificate, 199 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,960 which will allow the release of the body, 200 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,000 should not happen. 201 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,960 (Stephanie) So we took the body back to the mortuary. 202 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,960 Postmortem was done the very same afternoon. 203 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,960 (David) Despite the postmortem, Eric's sudden death 204 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,960 remains unexplained. 205 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,960 (Stephanie) The pathologist called me... 206 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,800 this would be now about half past 3:00... 207 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,960 and said I can't find a cause of death. 208 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,960 So I've taken stomach contents, 209 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,960 blood and urine, as we normally do. 210 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,320 And we took all those contents, 211 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,960 obviously, because we've got no cause of death. 212 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,960 Stephanie Stevens was suspicious. 213 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,960 And there is no question that she was going to allow this to proceed 214 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,960 to cremation without looking into it further, 215 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,960 no matter how much Marie Whiston wanted it. 216 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,960 There was no way I was letting it go, no way at all. 217 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,960 (David) Police determined they must uncover more 218 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,000 about the background of Marie Whiston. 219 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,960 Marie Whiston grew up in the Philippines, 220 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,960 which is an extremely poor country. 221 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,800 A lot of people there either live in very rural locations 222 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,960 or an awful lot of them in the capital of Manila, 223 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,960 which is very overcrowded and very, very poor. 224 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,000 She marries very young, which is not unusual there. 225 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,960 (Donna Youngs) 18-year-old Marie Whiston in the Philippines 226 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,960 marries a man who, unbeknownst to her, 227 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,960 is actually a violent alcoholic. 228 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,480 She then flees the Philippines and comes to the United Kingdom. 229 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,960 Once in England, Marie trains to become a nurse. 230 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:41,960 If you met her, she would seem the most caring and gentle of people. 231 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:47,960 To go into nursing was a fairly obvious career choice. 232 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,960 There was a television programme 233 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,960 around about that time called "Angels." 234 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,960 And there was very much a feeling that nurses were, 235 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,960 in some respect, angels. 236 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,160 There they were in the caring profession, 237 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,960 looking after other people. 238 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,960 It would have allowed her a very different lifestyle, 239 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,960 if you like, compared to what she'd had. 240 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,640 She wasn't dependent on anybody as she had been in the Philippines. 241 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,160 It would have allowed her financial independence. 242 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,640 And that would have been enormously important for her. 243 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,960 But it would also have given her social status 244 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,160 because of the high regard in which nurses were held. 245 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,960 And that would have been, I suspect, very appealing to her. 246 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,960 (David) Now settled in England, Marie decides to remarry. 247 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,800 (Donna) In 1973, Marie then meets and marries Robert Whiston. 248 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,960 Coming to the UK as an immigrant and fleeing 249 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,000 the kind of violent marriage at such a young age that she did, 250 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,960 she will have felt very exposed and vulnerable. 251 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,960 But over time and through meeting Robert, 252 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,960 she becomes more established. 253 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,960 She has children. 254 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,960 She goes into the nursing profession 255 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,960 and puts down roots in England. 256 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,960 (David) Serial monogamy is a survival strategy, 257 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:13,960 especially for people who feel exposed or vulnerable in some way. 258 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,320 And so quickly marrying one partner after another 259 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,960 is to give that person a sense of security, a sense of safety. 260 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,160 The relationship, in other words, isn't emotional. 261 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,960 It's transactional. 262 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,960 If that security no longer is forthcoming, 263 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,800 then that person will quickly move on to the next partner. 264 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,960 So serial monogamy is an interesting pattern 265 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,160 in how Marie Whiston behaves throughout her life. 266 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,960 But Marie holds a profound secret, one she's desperate 267 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,960 to keep away from her new husband. 268 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,800 They went on a holiday to the Philippines. 269 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,960 We don't know if he'd had any suspicions before, 270 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,960 but while he was there, it appears his suspicions 271 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:03,800 were very much aroused that she might still be married 272 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,960 to her abusive and alcoholic first husband. 273 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,480 (Donna) It's actually a bigamous marriage. 274 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,000 She remains married to the violent, alcoholic husband 275 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,960 in the Philippines. 276 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,960 The bigamy, I think, is just something 277 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,960 that she felt she had to do to survive, 278 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,160 even if that means committing bigamy. 279 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,960 And when Robert discovers this, things turn nasty. 280 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,960 She married a gentleman called Robert Whiston. 281 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,960 They had, I think, two children. 282 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,960 But eventually, the marriage broke down in rather 283 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,960 acrimonious circumstances. 284 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,960 There was a big battle over the custody of the children. 285 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,960 And in the end, it was Robert Whiston who was awarded 286 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,960 the custody of the two children. 287 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Robert was given care and control of their children... 288 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,960 in other words, effectively full custody. 289 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,960 But I think it would have been very unusual for a father 290 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960 to be given full custody, 291 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,960 especially when their mother was a nurse. 292 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,960 (David) So why does the judge refuse to grant custody 293 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,960 to the children's mother, Marie? 294 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,960 There's talk of Marie trying to set fire to Robert. 295 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:27,960 Somehow, the judge is picking up on something unstable, 296 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:33,960 erratic, untrustworthy lying beneath the apparently 297 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,960 placid and gentle demeanour that Marie is presenting. 298 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,960 And I think this is the first time 299 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,960 that anybody is picking up on this. 300 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,960 And I think it's here that we get our first indication 301 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:53,960 of the instability and volatility 302 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,960 of Marie's personality. 303 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,160 (David) In 1989, Marie makes the acquaintance 304 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,960 of former factory worker Eric Lloyd. 305 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:11,960 So quite quickly after her marriage to Robert has imploded, 306 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,960 Marie meets a car factory worker, Eric Lloyd, 307 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,960 who is not in the best of health. 308 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,960 He and she live together in his house. 309 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Marie very easily falls into a nursing role for him. 310 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,960 (Christopher Hotton) Mr Lloyd had made Mrs Whiston 311 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,320 the beneficiary of his will. 312 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,800 And so if he died, then she stood to inherit 313 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,160 a significant sum of money. 314 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,960 (David) But despite being a beneficiary of Eric's will, 315 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Marie immediately embarks on another affair. 316 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,960 (Christopher) Her interest in him waned, 317 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,960 and eventually she met a gentleman called Mr Beattie. 318 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,960 And at the time that Eric Lloyd died, 319 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,960 Mrs Whiston was, in effect, in a relationship with Mr Beattie. 320 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,960 This new relationship is more than just a passing fancy. 321 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,320 The pair are making plans to start a new life together in Canada. 322 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,960 In fact, she'd been off registering 323 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,960 her forthcoming marriage to another man. 324 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,960 She was aiming to elope with him or to go abroad with him 325 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,960 and marry him. 326 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,960 And of course, if she'd done that, then she would have missed out 327 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,960 on her inheritance from Eric. 328 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,960 (suspenseful music) 329 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,960 So while with Eric Lloyd, she was also conducting an affair 330 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,960 with a Mr Beattie, I think, all the while preparing for that, 331 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:55,960 looking for a means to cash in on her relationship with Eric Lloyd, 332 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,960 knowing that he was not very well. 333 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:04,960 (tense music) 334 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,960 (David) Of course, when the serial monogamy 335 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,960 leads to the end of a relationship, there's often a tipping point. 336 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,960 And sometimes that tipping point, as in this case with Eric, 337 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,960 would be because Marie has established that there would be 338 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,960 a better transactional relationship with someone else... 339 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,960 in this case, with Mr Beattie in Canada. 340 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,960 She therefore needs to get rid of Eric. 341 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,960 And therefore, the serial monogamy will move on yet again. 342 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:42,960 It suggests that Eric's murder was a calculated transaction 343 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,960 to finalise the past and fund the future. 344 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,960 (David) Stephanie Stevens, the coroner's officer, 345 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,960 is sure something's wrong. 346 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,960 And she's not the only one. 347 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,960 Eric Lloyd's family are also certain 348 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,960 he didn't die from natural causes. 349 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,960 Just a couple of days after Eric's death, 350 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,320 his daughter makes a dramatic accusation. 351 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,320 On the Monday morning, literally as I got to work, 352 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,960 knocking at the coroner's door was the daughter 353 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,960 saying, Marie Whiston, my dad's common-law wife, 354 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,320 I think she has killed him. 355 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,960 So I said, what makes you think that? 356 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,960 She said, well, Dad's just changed his will. 357 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,960 (David) Marie is the primary beneficiary of Eric's will. 358 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Then, for an unknown reason, Eric changes his mind. 359 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,960 (Donna) This threatens the most fundamental thing to Marie. 360 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Marie's survival instinct 361 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,960 will have been utterly kicked in by this. 362 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,960 To someone like Marie Whiston, to exclude her from his will 363 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:13,800 will have activated, will have triggered that survival instinct. 364 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Having excluded her from his will, he sealed his fate. 365 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,960 Marie now had both the method 366 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,160 and the motive in her hands. 367 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Underneath the placid demeanour, there was always a potential 368 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,960 to react when she needed to survive. 369 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,960 But now things have imploded again. 370 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,000 And acrimoniously, she's become something 371 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,320 much more strategic, much more dangerous. 372 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,000 She's mutated into somebody much more ruthless, 373 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,960 somebody who will now do anything to survive. 374 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,960 And I think that that's why very soon after meeting Eric Lloyd, 375 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,960 we see her beginning to put into play a plan 376 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,960 to murder him. 377 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,960 (David) Marie appears to have a motive, 378 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,000 but which method did she use? 379 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,960 The two mystery insulin overdoses that Eric suffered 380 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,800 earlier in their relationship are the key clue. 381 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,960 It seems very likely, given that Eric firstly 382 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,320 said he'd never taken insulin, 383 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,960 secondly, had no reason to because there's no suggestion 384 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,480 that he wanted to harm himself, and thirdly, 385 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,960 wouldn't have had easy access to insulin. 386 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,960 The only person who, A, had access to insulin 387 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,320 and, B, might have wanted to harm him is Marie. 388 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,960 That very much suggests that she is giving him insulin 389 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,960 in order either to harm him or in an attempt to kill him. 390 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,960 (tense music) 391 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,000 What my belief is...and this is what I told the coroner... 392 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,960 is that she'd come home from working her night shift. 393 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,960 She'd gone out to dispose of the syringe, 394 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,320 which we never found. 395 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,960 I actually went around the bins in Bordesley Green 396 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,960 looking for the syringe, but I never found it. 397 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,960 There was a pond. 398 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,960 And I even went out into the pond and searched the pond 399 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,960 to see if there was anything in the pond. 400 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,960 (Sarah) Nurses are extremely used to giving injections. 401 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,960 Marie Whiston was an experienced nurse. 402 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,960 While she was working on wards, she would almost certainly 403 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960 have had patients with type 1 diabetes. 404 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,640 And she would have been giving them injections 405 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,960 if they were incapable of doing it themselves, 406 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,960 of giving them injections of insulin. 407 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,960 So there's no question she knew about the effect 408 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,960 that insulin could have. 409 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:02,960 She knew about the danger of giving too much. 410 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:08,960 (tense music) 411 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,960 If you give a person who's got a normal pancreas 412 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,960 producing a normal amount of insulin 413 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,160 extra insulin from outside by way of an injection, 414 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,960 then that can and will reduce dramatically 415 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,960 the amount of sugar in the blood. 416 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,960 And that can lead to death, for example, by heart failure. 417 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,160 (suspenseful music) 418 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,960 In fact, as recently as 2020, 419 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,320 there was a review in a medical journal 420 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,960 which was sort of asking the question... 421 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,960 wasn't saying, but was asking the question, 422 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,960 is insulin the perfect murder weapon? 423 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960 But at this stage, Eric's postmortem 424 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,960 shows no signs of foul play. 425 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,960 The police are not convinced Marie is a suspect. 426 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,960 (Stephanie) When I informed the police, the police were, 427 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,960 no, I don't think there's any evidence. 428 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,960 The coroner backed me, and he said, actually said to me, 429 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,160 as a coroner's officer, Stephanie, I trust you. 430 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,960 Go with your instincts and do what you need to do. 431 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,960 (David) Stephanie returns to Eric's house, 432 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,640 determined to find physical proof. 433 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,960 (Stephanie) That's when I went back, 434 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,800 and I cut the carpet up where he'd been sick. 435 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,960 Found a Medi-Swab, which is what you use to pre-inject someone. 436 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Eric was not a man who was taking injections of insulin 437 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,960 or anything else, to her knowledge, 438 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960 and therefore, there was no reason for pre-injection swabs 439 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,960 to be in the place if it wasn't that somebody else 440 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,480 had been giving him an injection. 441 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,960 As forensic tests are carried out on the vomit-stained carpet, 442 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,960 Marie offers up another explanation for Eric's death... 443 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:14,960 suicide. 444 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,160 (Sarah) Marie Whiston was not about to admit murder straight away. 445 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,960 She perhaps does the obvious when she suspects maybe 446 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,960 that there isn't going to be a cremation, 447 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960 that the insulin might be found. 448 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,960 She decides to claim that Eric has committed suicide, which would, 449 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960 of course, be a way of explaining how he had 450 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,960 such high levels of insulin in his body 451 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,960 if she hadn't given it to him. 452 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,960 (David) When Whiston realises that she can't refute the evidence 453 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,960 in relation to the presence of insulin in Eric's bloodstream, 454 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,960 she quite clearly tries to manipulate the narrative once more. 455 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,960 She tries to box clever without admitting her own guilt. 456 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,960 And that's why she starts to claim that Eric committed suicide. 457 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,320 She recognises that the police have evidence 458 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,960 in relation to the insulin, 459 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,960 and she's simply fabricating a narrative to explain 460 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 why the insulin might be there. 461 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960 With the police still unconvinced, it falls to Stephanie 462 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,960 to prove that Eric Lloyd died from an insulin overdose. 463 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Now, the best way to show whether you've been given insulin 464 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,960 or whether you've produced it naturally 465 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,960 is to use something called C-peptide, 466 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,960 which is a natural chemical produced by your body 467 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,160 when it's producing insulin. 468 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,800 In the ordinary person, where they've got insulin in their blood 469 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,960 that's come from their own pancreas, 470 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,960 there is a known relationship between the amount of insulin 471 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,160 and the amount of C-peptide. 472 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,960 And if they are... those two substances 473 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,320 are in the normal relationship, well, that demonstrates 474 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,640 that the pancreas is responsible for the insulin 475 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,800 that's in the blood. 476 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,960 Where a person is injected with insulin, 477 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,960 that injection does not contain any C-peptide. 478 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,960 The manufacturers of insulin don't put C-peptide in it 479 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,960 because it's not a substance that has any known use to the body. 480 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,960 (David) The science is clear. 481 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,960 If Eric's blood shows insulin without corresponding C-peptides, 482 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,960 it proves the insulin was injected. 483 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,960 But there's a major problem. 484 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,960 The blood samples collected from Eric during his postmortem 485 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,960 are compromised and may be unusable. 486 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,960 The problem was that they weren't acceptable as evidence 487 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,480 because the samples were too damaged. 488 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160 (Christopher) Pathologists took two blood samples 489 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,960 at the initial postmortem, but by the time 490 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,000 those samples came to be examined, they had deteriorated. 491 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,320 What happens is, when somebody dies, the blood coagulates. 492 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,960 So when we were trying to test for what 493 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,800 we suspected was an insulin overdose... 494 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,960 bear in mind, Eric Lloyd, the deceased, wasn't a diabetic... 495 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,960 we couldn't test the blood. 496 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,960 (Christopher) The red blood cells within the blood had broken down. 497 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,960 And so the prosecution said that blood really 498 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,960 could give no reliable information so far as the presence of insulin. 499 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,960 (David) With the blood samples compromised, 500 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,960 Stephanie needs a plan B. 501 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,960 Eric Lloyd's first postmortem was inconclusive, 502 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,960 but Stephanie Stevens was not prepared to give up. 503 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,960 He had a second postmortem. 504 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,480 (Peter Acland) I first became involved with the case 505 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,160 of Eric Lloyd through the coroner's office. 506 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,960 I knew Stephanie quite well. 507 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,960 I go into the coroner's office most days of the week. 508 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,960 And she seemed to have an instinct about the case 509 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,960 that something wasn't quite right. 510 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800 There had already been a first postmortem 511 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,960 as a general, ordinary, so-called coroner's case, 512 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,480 where a colleague of mine had made a preliminary examination. 513 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,960 And his findings were inconclusive. 514 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,320 It had already been some increasing suspicion 515 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,960 about the case was developing 516 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,960 through Stephanie Stevens' concerns, 517 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,960 and therefore it was felt that the home office pathologist 518 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,960 should have another look at the body. 519 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,320 (David) To bring a case against Marie, 520 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,960 police must prove Eric Lloyd died from an insulin injection. 521 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,640 But there are no signs of a struggle, 522 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,960 nor any obvious needle marks on Eric's body. 523 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,960 I was able to really confirm that 524 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320 there was no obvious external injuries. 525 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,480 There was a bruise on the thigh, which possibly may have been 526 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,960 related to a needle mark but could have occurred 527 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,960 through any other trivial incident. 528 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,160 Methods of estimating insulin are particularly difficult 529 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,960 in blood and urine, especially urine at the time. 530 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,960 So again, that was difficult. 531 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,960 We were struggling, really, to try and prove that... 532 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,960 or disprove that Mr Lloyd had had an overdose of insulin. 533 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,800 (Stephanie) We couldn't test the blood, 534 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,960 so the coroner said, well, let's try something else. 535 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,960 So this is the first time ever in history 536 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,960 that we decided to test the urine. 537 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960 Looking at both the insulin and his C-peptide level. 538 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,640 The problem was that the samples were so damaged 539 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960 that they couldn't be used in evidence. 540 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,960 Now, that left the scientists, the investigators, 541 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,960 with only one choice, which was to turn to the urine samples. 542 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:54,160 (Christopher) But what they did was to look at two urine samples 543 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,960 that had been taken at the initial postmortem, 544 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,960 but nobody had ever tested urine before 545 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,960 for the presence of insulin and C-peptide. 546 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,960 Ordinarily, you don't need to. 547 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,960 You just use blood. 548 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,960 (tense music) 549 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,960 With the critical blood evidence ruined, 550 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,800 investigators are forced to look beyond 551 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,960 conventional forensic methods. 552 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,960 (Sarah) So what they did was to compare 553 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,960 those urine samples with lots of other deceased people. 554 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,640 And they treated them blind without anybody 555 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,640 knowing which sample was which. 556 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,960 And they were able to identify which one had very high levels 557 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,960 of insulin and not of C-peptide, 558 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,960 which suggests that it was an insulin injection. 559 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960 (Peter) The Central Mortuary in Birmingham, 560 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,960 they would be doing something like 6 to 10 autopsies a day. 561 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:04,960 So there was the opportunity to take blood and urine samples. 562 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,160 They weren't taking any tissue. 563 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:11,960 These were materials that would have been...gone to waste anyway. 564 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,960 (suspenseful music) 565 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,960 The painstaking work takes a full year as samples are collected 566 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,960 and a new technique is developed. 567 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,960 (Stephanie) For 12 months, I collected over 100 urine samples 568 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,960 to test for insulin. 569 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,960 And in all those 100, only 2 came back as positive. 570 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,960 And they were the only two people that actually were diabetics. 571 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,000 And they really developed a new science of examining urine samples 572 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,960 in this way and establishing that there was a relationship 573 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,960 between the amount of insulin and the amount of C-peptide in urine, 574 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,320 which could demonstrate that a person had been given 575 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,800 something from outside the body. 576 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,960 (David) Experts come to a final conclusion: 577 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,960 Eric Lloyd died from a lethal overdose of insulin. 578 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960 It was as a result of that 579 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960 that they were able to charge Marie Whiston. 580 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,960 But will the controversial technique be enough to convict 581 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,960 Marie Whiston of murder? 582 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,960 This science was very controversial. 583 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,960 A lot of experts gave evidence at trial. 584 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,960 And it was hotly contested that this science was reliable. 585 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,960 If the science isn't 100% reliable, 586 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,960 the prosecution needs compelling circumstantial evidence. 587 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,480 (Christopher) Unfortunately for Mrs Whiston, 588 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:03,640 the prosecution case did not rest solely on scientific evidence. 589 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,960 There was a lot of other circumstantial evidence 590 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,960 which the prosecution contended supported their scientific case. 591 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960 (David) Investigators begin to delve deeper 592 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960 into Marie Whiston's past. 593 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:29,960 Perhaps most significantly from the prosecution's point of view, 594 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,960 during the course of the divorce proceedings 595 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,800 from Mr Whiston, which had taken place many years before, 596 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,160 Mr Whiston had sworn an affidavit. 597 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,960 (Sarah) Marie's ex-husband said that not only had she threatened 598 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,960 to kill him in the past, but that she had threatened 599 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,480 to do it with insulin and that, as a nurse, 600 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,960 she knew how to do it. 601 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,960 (David) The ex-husband's affidavit really is a game changer, 602 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,960 both in terms of the investigation and in terms of the court case, 603 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,640 because what it demonstrates is that this is premeditated. 604 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,800 The ex-husband said that Marie had threatened him by injecting him 605 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,800 with insulin, which, of course, happens in this case, 606 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,480 and that the injection would be in a pretty 607 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,960 obscure place between the toes. 608 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,160 It's almost an open-and-shut case 609 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,960 because of what her ex-husband says. 610 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,960 He had set out in writing in a document that had been submitted 611 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,960 to the court at the time, 1988, an allegation 612 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,960 that Mrs Whiston had threatened to kill him 613 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,960 by injecting him with insulin... 614 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,960 (tense music) 615 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,960 And that she would do so by injecting him between the toes 616 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,640 where an injection site would not be discovered. 617 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:12,160 So here was this allegation, which was made many, many years before, 618 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:18,960 which was extremely damaging to Mrs Whiston's credibility. 619 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,480 It was, on the face of it, an extraordinary coincidence 620 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,960 that many years ago, she should make such a threat 621 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,960 and then years later, in respect of a different man, 622 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960 there should be compelling scientific evidence 623 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,960 that that was exactly the way in which he had been killed. 624 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,960 (David) Analysis of the vomit-stained carpet 625 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,960 also reveals some damning evidence. 626 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,960 It's highly unlikely that Eric Lloyd, who, from the sound of it, 627 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,320 already had great suspicions of his wife, 628 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,960 was going to let her inject him without knowing exactly 629 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,320 what was going on, and to inject him with a drug 630 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,960 which he must have known 631 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,960 could not possibly be for the benefit of his health. 632 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,800 So it's perhaps no surprise that when Stephanie Stevens arranged 633 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,960 for the vomit on the carpet to be examined, 634 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,960 it was found to contain sedatives, 635 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,960 which almost certainly Marie Whiston had given him 636 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,640 to render him unconscious. 637 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,960 That then allowed her to inject the insulin freely. 638 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,960 Whiston's trial gets underway at Birmingham Crown Court, 639 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,960 the culmination of three years of painstaking work. 640 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,960 It was a very long and difficult period for Mrs Whiston. 641 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,960 And when the police interviewed Mrs Whiston after the death 642 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:54,320 of Mr Lloyd, she told lies about her relationship with Mr Beattie 643 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,960 and tried to cover it up. 644 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960 (Sarah) As the investigation went on, 645 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,480 more suspicious lies and other circumstances came to light. 646 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,960 For one thing, Marie claimed that she'd been working a night shift. 647 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,960 Now, that gives her the aura of being very caring. 648 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,960 I've been off caring for patients. 649 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,960 I came home and found my husband dead. 650 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,960 In fact, she'd been off registering 651 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,960 her forthcoming marriage to another man. 652 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,160 She was aiming to elope with him or to go abroad with him 653 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960 and marry him. 654 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,960 And of course, if she'd done that, then she would have missed out 655 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,960 on her inheritance from Eric. 656 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,960 She was just lying. 657 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,800 I could just tell she was lying the whole time. 658 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,960 (Sarah) There's no question that Marie believed that 659 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,960 her expertise as a nurse would allow her to get away with murder. 660 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,160 It's ironic that, in fact, it was her behaviour 661 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,960 when Eric was found 662 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,960 which finally resulted in her being found out. 663 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,960 It was only because she was so keen to get away with murder 664 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,960 and to have Eric cremated that Stephanie Stevens, 665 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,960 the coroner's assistant, was so suspicious of her. 666 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,960 And it was as a result of that that a series of investigations 667 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,960 was set in place, which resulted in her being convicted. 668 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,960 The jury returns its verdict. 669 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Marie Whiston is found guilty of murder. 670 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:35,960 She actually stood up and shouted that I was a bitch 671 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,960 because I'd found her guilty. 672 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,960 But it was just her evil, 673 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,960 evil behaviour 674 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,960 that I knew that she was guilty. 675 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,960 (Donna) Marie murders Eric actually by injecting him 676 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960 with an excessive amount of insulin, 677 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,960 causing a death which could very easily 678 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,480 have been written off as being the result of natural causes. 679 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,960 Now, there's a sophistication to that, 680 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960 but actually, it's a medical sophistication. 681 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,960 It's a sophistication that's born out of her medical knowledge. 682 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,960 (David) Marie Whiston is sentenced to life in prison 683 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,960 with a recommendation that she serve a minimum of 16 years. 684 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,960 (Stephanie) I really didn't think we would get a conviction 685 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,960 because I didn't have all that much evidence. 686 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,160 But the jury convicted her on my evidence 687 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,160 and the fact that she was just guilty. 688 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,960 (David) On appeal in 2000, Marie Whiston's sentence 689 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,960 is reduced by two years. 690 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,960 Proving to be a model inmate, she soon earns her parole. 691 00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:01,960 I believe that Stephanie Stevens, the coroner's assistant, 692 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,960 deserves more credit than perhaps anybody else 693 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,960 in bringing Marie Whiston to justice. 694 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,960 (Peter) I think Stephanie's involvement in this case 695 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,960 and her suspicions were vital in pursuing the end result. 696 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,800 (tense music) 697 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,960 Eric became almost a part of my family 698 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:34,960 because I was just so convinced that a wrong had been done, 699 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960 and I needed to undo that wrong. 700 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,000 She was such a wicked woman. 701 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,960 (David) Of course, the real hero in this case is Stephanie Stevens. 702 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,960 You know, Stephanie Stevens saw Marie Whiston's mask slip 703 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,960 and was not prepared to let that go. 704 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:04,160 And because of her determination to find out the truth, 705 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,960 a calculated killer was brought to justice. 706 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,960 (dramatic music) 707 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 59538

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