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She's eloquent. 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,400 It's hard not to believe her. 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,680 If you see the common thread, ask the right questions, 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,000 then she won't be able to be manipulative, 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,560 because then the truth will come out. 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,000 That's what I'm saying. 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,680 There are recordings, documentation, there are witnesses. 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,480 Despite these things, I'm the culprit. 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,360 [somber music] 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,440 I'm innocent. 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:26,520 ALL THE SMS & MESSENGER MESSAGES ARE FROM THE POLICE'S PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION. 22 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:32,840 Feel free to ask me any questions you want. 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,600 I don't really have anything 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,360 to hide. I've been telling the same story all along. 25 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:46,320 My only wish is for Carola to be questioned as well. 26 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,560 As far as I'm concerned, there's no evidence. 27 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,360 It's her word against mine. 28 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,400 [Ia] My name is Ia Sveger. I'm a lawyer. 29 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,560 I knew Håkan from before. 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,000 IA SVEGER HÅKAN'S DEFENSE ATTORNEY 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,600 When Håkan is arrested, 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,440 he has sole custody of their two children. 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,640 Putting him behind bars was the easiest way 34 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,640 for Carola to regain custody. 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 The relationship was more or less over for Håkan's, 36 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,920 maybe more so than for Carola. 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,360 [Erik] Håkan wanted to leave her. 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,560 I think she panicked a little. 39 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:31,960 "ERIK" HÅKAN'S FRIEND 40 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,800 I think Carola lied, 41 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,760 and fabricated these allegations for her own personal benefit. 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,680 Only time will tell. 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,560 [Håkan] Damn, it's really raining! 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,640 So much of this is just plain crazy. 45 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:55,600 There's nothing in my story that you can question. 46 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:59,000 They'll come to the same conclusion. 47 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,720 I'm innocent. Carola lied. Period. 48 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,040 SPORTS FIGURE RELEASED WANTS REDEMPTION 49 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,840 I want a retrial. 50 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,000 My hope, of course, is that I will be acquitted. 51 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,240 That would give me a better chance of seeing 52 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,120 mine and Carola's children. 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,800 And that's what means the most to me. 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,920 [dramatic music] 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,920 You have to start looking at the rule of law. 56 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,440 You have to be objective. 57 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,320 If there was a nuclear bomb 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,000 and it took out all the police, 59 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,440 social services, and prosecutors 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,440 I'd just say 61 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,640 [chuckles] "Yeah, who cares?" 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,200 Can we take a break, two seconds? 63 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,360 [sighs heavily] 64 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,840 [solemn music] 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,400 You know, it brings up a lot of memories. 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Even the apartment. 67 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,280 Carola and I were supposed to decorate it. 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,720 I feel so awful that it's 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,160 I've tried not to discredit Carola. 70 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,480 I mean, children are brought into the world 71 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:20,800 because there's love between a couple. 72 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,280 [birds chirping] 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,840 To a large extent, I trusted Carola. 74 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,600 That's what our whole relationship has been about. 75 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,760 I should have seen the red flags, but in hindsight, 76 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:42,320 she's been cheating on me pretty much our whole relationship. 77 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,480 To be honest, I wasn't really looking for a relationship. 78 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,080 I was in the middle of a custody battle. 79 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,080 At that point, my focus was on the situation 80 00:04:59,159 --> 00:05:01,240 with my oldest daughter's mother. 81 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,280 That took all of my attention. 82 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,120 But at the same time, 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,240 there was this void in me that was crying out for 84 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,240 closeness. 85 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,160 In this frustration 86 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,600 HÅKAN NORRTÄLJE - SWEDEN - SINGLE MAN SEEKS WOMAN - 192 CM - 95 KG - ATTRACTIVE 87 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,360 I went online again. 88 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,280 And started communicating with Carola. 89 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,720 WHERE DO YOU LIVE? 90 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,280 When she asked me, "Can I call you instead? I'm driving." 91 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,200 And I got to hear her voice. 92 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,720 I knew then that this is a person 93 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:40,080 I want to spend time with. 94 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,240 [♪] 95 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,240 There was something about Carola. 96 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,640 It just clicked. 97 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,840 It fit right away. 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,000 Her opinions. 99 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,840 The way she spoke, and most of all, 100 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,440 the way she listened to me. 101 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,080 At the same time, 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,040 I knew that this really wasn't good. 103 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,600 These red flags started coming up. 104 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,040 [tense music] 105 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,320 I CAN'T DECIDE ABOUT TOMORROW. 106 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,120 I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SEE YOU ALONE 107 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,560 OR WITH MY HUSBAND HOW DO YOU FEEL? 108 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,160 Carola wanted things I'd never tried. 109 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,480 [♪] 110 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,960 She then tells me 111 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:34,920 "I want a gang bang." 112 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,680 It was maybe five or six different men. 113 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,080 "And my husband's going to film it." 114 00:06:41,159 --> 00:06:43,240 And then I just immediately felt 115 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,400 this shock. 116 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,560 I had to read it several times. 117 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,920 What is she writing? 118 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,159 Once this had sunk in, I just felt like, 119 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,360 "This is not me. I don't want to take part in this." 120 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,920 [faint music playing over speakers] 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,880 I just wrote, "I had a great time with you, 122 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,920 but this isn't for me. I'm out. 123 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,400 Thank you for this, and I wish you all the best in the future." 124 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,680 [solemn music] 125 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,600 And then she asked me, "Can I come to your house?" 126 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,000 When I opened the door, 127 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 she's standing outside crying. 128 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,960 That's when she told me she didn't want to have 129 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,760 this gang bang anymore. 130 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,360 She didn't want an open relationship with her husband. 131 00:07:33,159 --> 00:07:34,840 She had, in a short time, 132 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,200 fallen in love with me, and wanted to give it a try. 133 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:45,400 I WON'T BE WITH ANYONE ELSE. I ONLY WANT YOU, EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT ME ANYMORE. 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,560 [♪] 135 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,560 I couldn't do it. 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,360 I couldn't handle the longing for my eldest daughter, 137 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,080 and Carola's warmth. 138 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,280 It's some combination of this that made me go back again. 139 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,200 [somber music] 140 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,840 [♪] 141 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,800 And we started seeing each other. 142 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,400 I made it very clear that 143 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,240 if we were going to keep seeing each other, 144 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,800 I didn't want her seeing any other guys. 145 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,360 [♪] 146 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:51,480 [♪] 147 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,560 She had e-mail conversations with, 148 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:00,720 as far as we know today, 149 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,720 at least eight different men 150 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,640 SEND ME A PICTURE OF YOU AND ALL THE COCKS. 151 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,840 [Håkan] when she had 152 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,040 YOU HORNY LITTLE THING. 153 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,640 [Håkan] made it very clear to me 154 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,440 that I was the one she wanted to commit to. 155 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:12,320 SO YOU'RE UP FOR A BUKKAKE 156 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,720 [grunting with effort] 157 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,760 She set up meetings with these men. 158 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,120 DO YOU WANT TO BE FUCKED BY ALL FIVE OF THEM IN ALL THE HOLES? 159 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,080 At her workplace. 160 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,400 Before, after, and on breaks. 161 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,440 I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH ALL FIVE 162 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,480 When it came out, it hurt. 163 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:42,280 [birds chirping] 164 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:47,000 NORRTELJE NEWSPAPER 165 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Maj. 166 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,800 LISTING MEN CONVICTED OF RAPE IN NORRTÄLJE 167 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,280 It's in the Norrtelje newspaper again. 168 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Here. It's a full page. 169 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,240 -[Maj] No. -Again. 170 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,440 -[Maj] That, too? -[Håkan] Yes. 171 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:10,840 "For ten years, the man, a former teacher, 172 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,720 subjected the woman to violence and abuse. 173 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,840 He broke down her own will, monitored her every move, 174 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,400 harassed and threatened her. 175 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,560 The man invited an unknown man 176 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,800 for a fee to sexually abuse her at their residence." 177 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,360 It's 178 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,720 well, what can I say? 179 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,200 I live in a small town. 180 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,600 There's been a total media storm about this. 181 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,800 Everyone's read this. Everyone knows about this. 182 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 And if it's only one side that gets to tell their version, 183 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,600 then, eventually, it becomes a reality. 184 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,720 A rapist is the lowest piece of garbage on the planet. 185 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,720 [solemn music] 186 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,560 People you thought were friends, 187 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:09,200 that you've been hanging out with for 30 years, 188 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,520 contact me and tell me they've removed me from Facebook. 189 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:21,400 [♪] 190 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,680 Hmm. 191 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,160 [speaking in another language] 192 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,760 I mean, I have nothing left. 193 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,880 Housing, it'll be fine. 194 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Work, it'll be fine. 195 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,200 But this time with the kids, 196 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,960 you can never get that back. 197 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,000 [sobbing] 198 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,920 And then this thought, "What do they think of me? 199 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,760 What have they found out? Why is Dad gone?" 200 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,520 [♪] 201 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,960 It's so hard to explain this feeling 202 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,080 like you're being watched all the time. 203 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,760 [♪] 204 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,840 All the time, I feel like I'm being followed. 205 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,760 I can't even go into a store and shop here in Norrtälje. 206 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,520 I don't want to. I panic. 207 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,760 [♪] 208 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,720 [car horn honking] 209 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,840 I wouldn't have dared to cheat on Håkan. 210 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,120 This evidence are emails 211 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,760 that were date-stamped long before I even met Håkan. 212 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,000 And yet, he's been obsessed with it. 213 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,480 PUT THE BEDROOM CAMERA WHERE IT SHOULD BE 214 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,840 [Carola] He had control of everything. 215 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,640 I HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT 216 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,200 [Håkan] I didn't control her in any way. 217 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,880 At some point, you have to start 218 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,600 questioning her statements again. 219 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:17,320 "When did Håkan do this? How can you prove it? 220 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,720 On what grounds? What do you mean, this happened?" 221 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,760 No one asked. No one asked my side of the story. 222 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,800 [tense music] 223 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,760 I had a surveillance system. 224 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,040 I have my race boat out in the garage. 225 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,960 We set up a camera there. Very simple. 226 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Then we also had a camera inside the bedroom 227 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,240 that was pointed at a dresser. 228 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,080 Did I had those two cameras? Absolutely. 229 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,240 [♪] 230 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,440 [Ia] Too much emphasis has been placed on that aspect 231 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,120 of Håkan's control over Carola. 232 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,440 He did have cameras, which a lot of people have in their homes. 233 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,600 [Håkan] According to her version, 234 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,360 I sit and look at these cameras every day. 235 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,080 I'm a teacher, the only teacher at a small school. 236 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,200 When is this supposed to have happened? 237 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,160 If my students saw me sitting here, 238 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,880 watching this on my phone, 239 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,480 what do you think they'd say? 240 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,680 [wind gusts softly] 241 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,280 [Jenny] He was my children's teacher. 242 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,520 They also confirmed that he constantly called to keep tabs on Carola. 243 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,840 JENNY CAROLA'S FRIEND 244 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Everyone in her class knew about it. 245 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,720 CAN YOU WRITE DOWN WHAT POINTS WE TALKED ABOUT 246 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,320 AND WHAT WE'VE AGREED ON TO EVEN THINK ABOUT TRYING AGAIN? 247 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,440 NOT TO LIE. NOT TO HAVE CONTACT WITH JENNY 248 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,360 [Jenny] Håkan forbade Carola from seeing me. 249 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,280 THAT YOU CAN TRACE AND CHECK MY PHONE 250 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,840 [Jenny] He wanted to cut off the last of her contacts. 251 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,040 [Carola] When things are at their worst 252 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,200 I don't have any open channels 253 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,160 and there's very few people that I'm allowed 254 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,920 to have contact with. 255 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,400 COME DOWN, TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF AND I'LL GET YOU 256 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,080 I was under so much stress the whole time. 257 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,480 I felt like I was going to fall apart. 258 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,760 It's all about his needs. 259 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,080 Sex is more important than anything. 260 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,720 There was no way out anymore 261 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,600 I couldn't get away from it. 262 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,280 I'LL TAKE THE KIDS TOMORROW SO YOU CAN SEE ÅSA 263 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,080 The only free moments I had 264 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,800 were when he was having sex with someone else, 265 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,640 and I wasn't there. 266 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,240 So I was uh 267 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,200 I was the one who suggested that she and Håkan 268 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,400 start seeing each other. 269 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,160 -[man speaking indistinctly on telephone] -Uh-huh. 270 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,120 I see. No, I understand. 271 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,840 I was going to come and pick you up. 272 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Take you to lunch. Does it work? 273 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 I never said I didn't like sex. 274 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,640 I like to have sex. I have sex a lot. 275 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Carola had offered Åsa to be alone with me. 276 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,760 [unsettling music] 277 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,760 And that Carola would go away with the kids. 278 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,720 I'm sure many men would have been happy about this. 279 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,160 But I saw problems. 280 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,240 I made it clear. I told Carola, 281 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,560 "You're the one I want to be with." 282 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,000 [♪] 283 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,360 Carola says to me, "Well, write Åsa." 284 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,200 And I'm like, "No." 285 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,079 So I didn't at first. But then 286 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,000 [half-laughs, half-sighs] 287 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,640 I own my decisions, and I can only say that. 288 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,920 Yeah, then I wrote. 289 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,800 They made that decision for me. 290 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,480 I mean, I wasn't even part of this decision. 291 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,720 I could see that this wasn't going to end well. 292 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:25,200 And most of all, I'm thinking, "Why did you do this?" 293 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,680 [pensive music] 294 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,280 [Carola] It was my suggestion, so that I could find a way out. 295 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,440 That gave me a chance 296 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,760 to go to a friend's house, 297 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,360 and catch my breath for a few hours. 298 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,400 She and I had great sex. 299 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,600 I can't deny that. 300 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:56,480 YOU'VE BEEN GOING ON AND ON ABOUT ÅSA ALL NIGHT, 301 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,240 EVEN WHEN WE'RE HAVING SEX, YOU CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT HER 302 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,760 It was Carola's idea for Håkan to have sex with Åsa. 303 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:10,080 I WANT SOME ALONE TIME WITH YOU 304 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,440 Then, once this started, Carola wasn't exactly, hmm 305 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,000 IA SVEGER HÅKAN'S DEFENSE ATTORNEY 306 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,640 comfortable with it. 307 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,360 Instead, she got a little jealous, 308 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,000 and wasn't happy with the relationship at all. 309 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,720 [wind gusting gently] 310 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,800 [Håkan] That's when Carola 311 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,120 started telling me and writing to me 312 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,240 that our relationship hadn't been good for a long time. 313 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,680 She then wanted to have what's known as a BDSM session. 314 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,840 [intense music] 315 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:50,040 [Ia] BDSM is a form of sex that involves violence. 316 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,800 It involves having whips, 317 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,880 you can wear a choke chain, 318 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,840 or you're tied up. 319 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,120 [insects chirping] 320 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,120 [Håkan] I told her this is not something I can do. 321 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,320 I mean, regular sex, I know my way, if I may brag. 322 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,760 I'm good at that. 323 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,760 Um 324 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,640 but this was a whole new plan for me. 325 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,480 There were many discussions. 326 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,120 I remember we talked about it a lot. 327 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,680 But through it all, 328 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,760 Carola continues to make veiled threats. 329 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,160 So in the end, I realized that 330 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,600 I had two options. 331 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,920 Either separate or agree to this. 332 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,360 Those were my two options. 333 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,760 [telephone ringing] 334 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,800 [Ia] Both Håkan and Carola had a very strong 335 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,440 interest in sex. 336 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,840 You can't ignore that. 337 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,680 Sex was one of the most important aspects 338 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,280 of their relationship. 339 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,240 Carola knew full well that this person 340 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,160 was coming to the residence for the purpose 341 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,240 of a sexual encounter. 342 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600 [children shouting distantly] 343 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,600 [Håkan] She was adamant about being tied up. 344 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:21,240 She wanted to be blindfolded. 345 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:23,120 She wanted to be whipped. 346 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,400 She wanted to be on the table. 347 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,760 Everything I was accused of, 348 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,400 had already been discussed long before the meeting. 349 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,280 THEN YOU LEAD ME OVER TO THE COUCH, AND BOTH OF YOU COME UP TO MY MOUTH, 350 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,720 [Håkan] After this meeting, 351 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,680 AND I JERK OFF WHILE I SUCK YOU 352 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,520 she then writes that "It felt really good yesterday. I trusted you." 353 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,960 I'LL ADMIT ONE THING 354 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,520 [he continues] She knows the truth. 355 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,080 THAT I FELT SAFE WITH YOU LAST TIME HE WAS HERE 356 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,640 [he continues] She knows I didn't force her. 357 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,400 There's a recording, documentation, witnesses. 358 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,920 Even so, I'm the bad guy. 359 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,360 I DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT 360 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,280 THEN WHAT ARE YOU OFFERING? 361 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,960 [director] Then how come you've been taking money? 362 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,480 [tense music] 363 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,520 As I've said, at some point you have to examine yourself. 364 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,640 And I can be honest and say, yes, I took money. 365 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,400 But not for sex, 366 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,040 not for anything like that. 367 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,720 The idea, as the conversation makes clear, 368 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,640 was that the money would be handed over to Carola 369 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,440 so she could buy sex toys. 370 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,040 And that's exactly what I did. 371 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,840 WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BUY TOYS? 372 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,480 [he continues] She then, as a thing, wanted this person who came home 373 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,120 NAUGHTY ADVENTURES LOOKING FOR FUCK BUDDY SOME WEEKDAY FUN 374 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,400 to bring BDSM things for me to use on Carola. 375 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,680 I explained to Carola. "Now I found one, but he doesn't have any BDSM things." 376 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,800 BENGT66, 52 - STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN MAN IN RELATIONSHIP LOOKING FOR WOMAN, SOMETHING SHORT-TERM 377 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,400 [Håkan continues] So his suggestion was, 378 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,640 "Why don't I send Carola some money, so she can buy them?" 379 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,120 WHAT'S THE PLAN? 380 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,040 WE'LL BUY A WHIP THAT YOU PAY FOR WHEN YOU GET HERE. 381 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:11,240 I TIE AND WHIP HER. WHEN WE'RE DONE, YOU LEAVE. 382 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:12,600 [he continues] But then she says, 383 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,880 "I don't want him to know who I am, 384 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,760 and I don't want to know who he is. 385 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,480 That's the whole thing." 386 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,560 And here, I've asked myself that question a thousand times. 387 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,640 Why, Håkan? Why? 388 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,000 But he sent me money. 389 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:30,800 I sent the money to Carola. 390 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,160 It was stupid. But did I sell her? No! 391 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560 [office din] 392 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,680 I don't think I've ever been involved in a case 393 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,680 where there's so much documentation 394 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,480 between the two parties. 395 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,720 And here, Carola herself has expressed what she wants. 396 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,120 She wants to be blindfolded, 397 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,600 to be restrained, to be fucked on the couch. 398 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,400 This is something that she did voluntarily. 399 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,200 [tense music] 400 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,360 [Håkan] Did I want this man to join the game? No. 401 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,080 I didn't make any requests. 402 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,000 I haven't made any demands. 403 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,640 But I have asked her, 404 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,440 "What do you want to be a part of? 405 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,280 What do you think I should do with you?" 406 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,480 DO YOU HAVE A REQUEST? 407 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,280 I WANT TO BE BLINDFOLDED 408 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,200 [Rebecca] There are chats where Carola herself 409 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,400 says she wants to have BDSM sex. 410 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,800 REBECCA LAGH CAROLA'S LAWYER 411 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,040 And in my world, having read the whole thing 412 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,440 and knowing this case, 413 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,920 I understand that she's doing it 414 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,880 because she knows that's what Håkan wants to hear. 415 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,040 And if she says these things, 416 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,120 he won't punish her. 417 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,960 [tense music] 418 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,640 WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAPPEN? 419 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440 I'M STRAPPED TO THE TABLE WHEN HE COMES 420 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,000 YOU TOUCH AND CARESS ME YOU FUCK ME 421 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:20,400 Håkan very often wanted me to write things to him in text messages. 422 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,720 [cell phone ringing] 423 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,040 He told me exactly what to write, word for word. 424 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,880 THEN YOU LEAD ME OVER TO THE COUCH AND BOTH OF YOU COME UP TO MY MOUTH 425 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,520 AND I JERK OFF WHILE I SUCK YOU 426 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,280 [Carola continues] He knows what he's doing is wrong. 427 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:42,640 He wants proof that it's my idea and not his idea. 428 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,840 [♪] 429 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,920 If I didn't want to send the texts, 430 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,440 he could go on for hours. 431 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,760 There were times when I'd just do it 432 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,040 so he'd leave me alone, and I could go to sleep. 433 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,480 I'M HERE 434 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,680 [she continues] I didn't want Håkan to bring some strange man 435 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,120 to have sex with me while I was strapped to the table. 436 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,960 COME IN 437 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,360 I didn't even know anything about it, 438 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,360 about those payments or any of that, 439 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,840 I had no idea any of it had happened. 440 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,080 [solemn music] 441 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:29,280 TRIAL AUDIO RECORDING 442 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,480 [Bengt on recording] It was Håkan who asked me if I wanted to come. 443 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,240 "BENGT" - SEX BUYER 444 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,880 [officer on recording] Was it Håkan who contacted you 445 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,520 on all those occasions? 446 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,680 [Bengt] Yes. 447 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,120 [officer] Is it true that you sent the money to Håkan? 448 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,360 [Bengt] Yes. 449 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,560 [officer] Why did you send the money? 450 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,480 [Bengt] So they could buy a sex swing that costs 6 000 kronor. 451 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,480 [officer] Okay. 452 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,400 Then why did you pay them so many times? 453 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,280 SENDER - RECEIVER - SUM HÅKAN - 1 200 KR 454 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 [Bengt] I couldn't afford it all at once. 455 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,000 [officer] Okay. 456 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,760 Telling the truth in court is essential. 457 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,120 [Bengt] Absolutely. Absolutely. 458 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,440 When we questioned the suspect about soliciting sexual services, 459 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,080 he denied it. 460 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280 But this is a deeply shameful offense. 461 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,200 TOMAS POLICE 462 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,480 So it's not surprising 463 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,200 that he didn't want to talk about it. 464 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,120 [officer on recording] You've admitted to paying for sex. 465 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,240 [Bengt on recording] I'm very scared right now. 466 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:37,840 [officer] Yes, I understand that. 467 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,440 That makes it all the more important 468 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,000 that you answer truthfully. 469 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,880 [Tomas] He was questioned again. 470 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Eventually he admitted that he had purchased sexual services, 471 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,600 and explained what happened. 472 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,240 [somber music] 473 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600 [Bengt on recording] Then he put her on the table. 474 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,840 He tied her down with those ropes. 475 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,000 And he whipped her. 476 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,640 Then he motioned for me to come over to the table. 477 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,360 I had already paid to do it, so I did. 478 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,920 I-- I didn't know any better. 479 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,280 BENGT WAS CONVICTED OF PURCHASING SEXUAL SERVICES. 480 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,160 HE WAS SENTENCED TO 80 DAY-FINES TOTALING 26,400 KRONOR. 481 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,240 Those who buy sex don't care about the vulnerability 482 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,760 of the person they're buying sex from. 483 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,840 REBECCA LAGH CAROLA'S LAWYER 484 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,280 I think that generally holds true. 485 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,200 If you're buying sex, you're doing it 486 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,520 so you can do all the things that you can't do with anyone else. 487 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,280 [Tomas] She told me that this had happened many times. 488 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,640 These were the times that we were able to prove it. 489 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,320 So, that part of her story remains uncertain today. 490 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,760 It could be what she says, or it could be what he says. 491 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,320 [unsettling music] 492 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:04,160 I'M VERY DOMINANT AND I DEMAND OBEDIENCE 493 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,560 I WANT YOU TO FEEL COMPLETELY INFERIOR AND GRATEFUL THAT I EVEN LET YOU SUCK ME 494 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,840 It starts off with this incredible warmth and appreciation, 495 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,840 until he starts making little demands. 496 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,400 And every boundary you cross is not that difficult in itself. 497 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,000 It becomes normal. 498 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,880 [♪] 499 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,400 [Björn] Basically, their stories are pretty consistent 500 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,440 with each other's. 501 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,680 BJÖRN POLICE 502 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,000 But how can these experiences be so different? 503 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200 We went through tens of thousands of chat messages, 504 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,080 seeing how they communicated back and forth. 505 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,520 24 hours a day. 506 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,520 [Rebecca] It's very rare for the police even recover 507 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,800 all these chat messages. 508 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,680 But in this case, they did. 509 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,600 That's what made the difference. 510 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,640 To truly understand the scope of it, 511 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,760 you almost have to read every single one. 512 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,720 DO WE HAVE A DEAL? 513 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,040 YES 514 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,480 [Rebecca] How Håkan, 515 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,880 in a very calculated and manipulative way, 516 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,040 makes her do things that she doesn't really want to do. 517 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,280 I'M SORRY, BUT I CAN'T GIVE YOU ANOTHER CHANCE 518 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160 I UNDERSTAND. I'M SORRY FOR EVERYTHING I PUT YOU THROUGH 519 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,640 [Björn] In the material we reviewed, 520 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,040 we could see a clear process of normalization. 521 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560 That's what set this case apart. 522 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,240 I FEEL THAT I'M TRYING, BUT I CAN STILL IMPROVE EVEN MORE! I REALLY LOVE YOU. 523 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,400 [Tomas] You put on financial pressure. 524 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,160 HOW ARE YOU GOING TO AFFORD FIVE KIDS ON YOUR OWN? 525 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,840 [Tomas] Emotional pressure. 526 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS 527 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,640 [Tomas] Criticizing the kids. 528 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120 YOUR DAUGHTER TREATS YOU LIKE CRAP 529 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640 But also the plaintiff herself. 530 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,920 That's she's not good enough. 531 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,840 [tense music] 532 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,120 WHO IS ---? 533 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,680 [Tomas] This rather strict control 534 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,360 DELETE HER FROM FACEBOOK. 535 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,720 THAT'S AN ORDER NOT A REQUEST 536 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920 that takes away, little by little, her self-esteem. 537 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,160 I'VE ARRANGED FOR A WOMAN TO COME OVER ON SUNDAY 538 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,800 [Tomas] And constantly pushes the boundaries 539 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,280 OK. WHAT DOES SHE WANT TO DO? 540 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760 of one's personal space 541 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,360 IT DOESN'T MATTER. YOU WILL OBEY ME 542 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,440 until there isn't much left. 543 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,080 I SUCK AT EVERYTHING 544 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,560 [somber music] 545 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,200 [Björn] Throughout it all, 546 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,120 there was a constant cycle of warmth, love and care, 547 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,360 followed by coldness, demands, and control, 548 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,520 and it just went back and forth. 549 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:50,240 YOU HAVE A LIFETIME CONTRACT TO HAVE SEX WITH ME. I DECIDE WHO YOU SEE. 550 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,440 Legally, it was the first time that a court 551 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,960 actually based its judgment 552 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,080 NORRTÄLJE DISTRICT COURT COURTS OF SWEDEN 553 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,400 on the normalization process. 554 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,360 [intense, pounding music] 555 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,480 Every second is like an eternity. 556 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,200 I didn't get my sentence read out. 557 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,960 In my case, I was in custody. 558 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,720 Then they call you out to a room. 559 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,200 Then once they've checked that all the doors and everything are closed, 560 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,560 you can to turn the sentence over, and start reading. 561 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,920 And so 562 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,600 When I saw ten years, then 563 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520 [tense music swells] 564 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,160 [high-pitched whine] 565 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,920 I don't know what I was thinking. 566 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,080 I didn't sleep at all last night. 567 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,360 It's hard. 568 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,520 It's really hard. 569 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,320 After what happened. 570 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,600 He's sentenced to ten years, which was a shock to Håkan, 571 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,320 and also to me, as his defense attorney. 572 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560 I really don't understand. 573 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,840 They threw everything they had at this case to try to convict Håkan. 574 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,440 It was aggravated rape, rape, 575 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,640 violation of a woman's integrity, procuring. 576 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,760 It was 16 counts altogether. 577 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,360 [somber music] 578 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,360 [Carola] The lawyer calls and she just says, 579 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,880 "Ten years." 580 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,640 I kind of understood that now we're going to be free. 581 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,280 There's time to heal. 582 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,640 It was like a relief that he won't be able 583 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,520 to get to us for a long time. 584 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,800 [Ia] Regardless, there's always an opportunity to appeal to the Court of Appeals. 585 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,720 And the Court of Appeals will do a very thorough examination. 586 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640 There was an enormous amount of material 587 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040 in the preliminary investigation. 588 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,600 That's why the Court of Appeal reviewed all the evidence 589 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,600 that had been presented in the District Court. 590 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,520 SPORTS STAR'S APPEAL REDUCES SENTENCE TO 3 YEARS AND 4 MONTHS 591 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,080 When the Court of Appeals comes, 592 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,040 they lower the sentence by two-thirds. 593 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,040 That's from 10 years to 3.4 years. 594 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,040 They dropped about half the charges. 595 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,920 [Rebecca] The aggravated rapes disappeared. 596 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,080 The procuring charge was dropped. 597 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,400 But the reason the sentence became so severe 598 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,520 was because the aggravated rapes carry a high penalty value. 599 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,960 [tense music] 600 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,520 [Carola] He's been in custody, 601 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,520 and he'll get credit for time served, 602 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,160 so I know he's gonna get out sooner. 603 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,560 It became a bit of a rush to find a plan B in life, 604 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,040 where we were gonna go. 605 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,880 [♪] 606 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,120 [low hum of conversation] 607 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:06,200 [♪] 608 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,639 [Rebecca] He was convicted of aggravated violation of a woman's integrity, 609 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,400 procuring, and rape. 610 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,440 COURTS OF SWEDEN 611 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,120 [Rebecca] They're confirming that 612 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,520 the normalization process exists, 613 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,719 and it has legal significance. 614 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,280 They argued that she had gone through such a profound 615 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,280 process of normalization that she was no longer able to defend herself, 616 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,239 or her sexual integrity. 617 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,360 In a way, she had no choice. 618 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,760 [somber music] 619 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,400 [door slams] 620 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040 [Ia] This raises a very difficult issue 621 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:51,679 of legal certainty. 622 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:56,639 How can you actually determine whether there was consent or not? 623 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,680 [Håkan] As I understand it, they claimed I'd been raping her from the start, 624 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000 three to four times a week, 625 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,040 but it's not clear where, and especially when, this happened. 626 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,960 [♪] 627 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,480 In this normalization process, you can be more vague. 628 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,760 This expression is bullshit. It doesn't exist. 629 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,720 But if it does exist, I'm telling you, if anyone is normalized, it's me. 630 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,840 [♪] 631 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,840 [Tomas] Legally, it was rape. 632 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,720 But, to be perfectly honest, 633 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,120 I still don't think he sees this the same way 634 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,360 that the legislator does at all. 635 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,000 CONVICTED OF RAPE IN NORRTÄLJE 636 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,800 [Håkan] Had I known somewhere in the back of my mind, 637 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,760 "Håkan, you actually did this" 638 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,840 The more I think about it, 639 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,120 the more how could it have come to this? 640 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:07,720 I can't believe it. 641 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600 I can't understand why I was convicted. 642 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,560 I don't get it. 643 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,800 I really don't. 644 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,280 [unsettling music] 645 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,560 [Carola] We're going back to the courthouse. 646 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,160 [woman on phone] Okay. 647 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,240 [Carola] He's accused of violating the restraining order. 648 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,560 [woman on phone] Has he appealed the restraining order? 649 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,280 [Carola] These years that he was away from us, 650 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,040 both me and the kids grew so much. 651 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,080 [woman on phone] You could run into him at any grocery store you walk into. 652 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,960 I avoid going into grocery stores for that very reason. 653 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,680 [woman on phone] Hmm. 654 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,960 And then the fact that today he's a free man 655 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,240 and you have to constantly think about what his next step is. 656 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,080 Um 657 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,080 it's incredibly unfair. 658 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,760 [tense music] 659 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,560 [Håkan] I believe Carola is dangerous along with the authorities. 660 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:21,440 Deep down, she's a good person, but she got swept up in it. 661 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,400 Because she didn't put a stop to it soon enough, 662 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,440 it just kept escalating. 663 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,160 Eventually, it was moving so fast that she couldn't stop it. 664 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,000 And I don't understand. 665 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,480 Of course, I want redemption. 666 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,160 Social Services, the police, and everyone's against me, 667 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,400 so it's hard. 668 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,280 But someone has to put their foot down. 669 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,480 Believe me, if there's one thing I wish, 670 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,840 it's that someone else had taken my place. 671 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:02,160 [♪] 672 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,920 How much longer am I supposed to live with all this 673 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,720 so-called evidence hanging over my head? 674 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040 How much longer am I supposed to sit here 675 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,360 and accept that it's just being dismissed? 676 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,720 She's ruined my life. 677 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,040 I don't care what happens to her. 678 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,720 I felt absolutely nothing for her. Nothing. 679 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,640 I didn't feel hatred. I didn't feel love. 680 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,360 I felt completely indifferent. 681 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,160 [woman on phone] You have to prepare yourself for the fact 682 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,400 that he's going to do this for the rest of your life. 683 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,640 What makes Håkan dangerous 684 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:50,520 is that he believes that he was wrongfully convicted. 685 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,240 And not 686 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,240 taking responsibility 687 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,760 will also prevent him from getting any kind of treatment. 688 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,360 It's clear that I was wrongfully convicted. 689 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,160 There's no such thing as normalization. 690 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,040 There's no documentation, no research. 691 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,040 There are witnesses who heard Carola admit 692 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840 that she made it all up to gain custody of the children, 693 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,800 and financial compensation. 694 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,440 I'm going to get a retrial. 695 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,880 I finally have the proof in my hands. 696 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,600 And now I want to show it to them. 697 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,440 We've already written everything up. 698 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,840 Tomorrow, we'll go to the police station, and file a police report. 699 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,760 [tense music] 700 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,720 [Eva] Carola definitely didn't make up what happened. 701 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,560 There is absolutely no way. Why would she do that? 702 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,400 "EVA" CAROLA'S FORMER MOTHER-IN-LAW 703 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,680 What's in it for her? 704 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,720 It's her life that's been ruined. 705 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,840 [Anneli] Håkan was always saying in court, 706 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,520 "She did this. I have proof. I have proof." 707 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,800 But no evidence was ever presented. 708 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,680 There's nothing. 709 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,600 ANNELI HÅKAN'S EX GIRLFRIEND 710 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,320 Because there is absolutely 711 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,680 no evidence to support what he's claiming. 712 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,440 [solemn music] 713 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,560 [Björn] It's an investigation where the system has worked from start to finish. 714 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,880 From an anonymous tip someone called in to the police, 715 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,080 to convictions in the District Court, 716 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,720 and convictions in the Court of Appeals. 717 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,320 Then appealed to the Supreme Court. 718 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,920 They won't grant a retrial. 719 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,280 [♪] 720 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,600 We can help people who don't think they can be helped. 721 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,440 Today, law enforcement has a completely different set of tools 722 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,800 and skills than we did five or ten years ago. 723 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,240 [Tomas] Yes. 724 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,720 -Hi. -Hi. 725 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,280 [Tomas] It's very important to send a clear message. 726 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,800 You can't do this, because you'll be convicted. 727 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,720 [gentle music] 728 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,840 Children can be given reassurance. 729 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,320 This is not okay. 730 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,320 This is not how you're supposed to live. 731 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,560 And that's not unimportant. 732 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,320 [♪] 733 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,760 [Carola] The shame and the guilt 734 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,120 are never going to fully leave me. 735 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,040 [♪] 736 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160 It's so much easier with your own feelings. 737 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,360 Putting a lid on them when it gets too hard. 738 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,080 But not being able to protect my children 739 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:56,560 and knowing I played a part in four children 740 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,640 growing up in misery. 741 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680 [♪] 742 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,560 Children who grow up with parents like these become 743 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:12,320 very adaptable. 744 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,480 [♪] 745 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,560 [children shouting distantly] 746 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,120 But their own needs usually go unmet. 747 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,360 [speaking in another language] 748 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,200 I mean, my hope is that they will grow up with caring, 749 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,960 dependable adults, 750 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,600 who treat others with dignity and respect. 751 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,640 [laughing] 752 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:49,720 TODAY, CAROLA HAS SOLE CUSTODY OF THEIR CHILDREN. 753 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,560 [hopeful music] 754 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:59,280 SHE'S PUBLISHED A BOOK ABOUT HER EXPERIENCES. 755 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,920 HÅKAN HAS APPLIED FOR A RETRIAL TO TRY HIS CASE AGAIN, 756 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,640 BUT TO THIS DAY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO PRESENT THE NECESSARY EVIDENCE. 757 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,600 [solemn music] 758 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:42,000 [♪] 57053

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