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The coroner ruled
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the cause of deathto be the shotgun pellets.
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It wasn't the woundsfrom the shooters after the shotgun
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that killed Malcolm X.
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The cause of death was ruled
to be the sawed-off shotgun.
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Rally attendeesseized one of the gunmen
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as he triedto escape the Audubon.
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There is archival film
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of the scene outsidethe Audubon Ballroom
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right after the assassination.
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Intervening policemenengaged in a brutal tug-of-war...
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You see a scuffle between the police
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and the crowd that was tryingto beat down Talmadge Hayer,
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the only one of the assassinsto confess.
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And there's a man standingon the edge of that crowd
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who looksa lot like William Bradley.
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There he is, right there.
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Who, according to Hayer,
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fired the shotgunthat killed Malcolm.
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And he's feigning
like he's part of the brawl.
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And in that kind of misdirection,
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he steps back,
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and then you see himwalk across the frame
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very calmly, closing his coat,and he just walks away.
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This is how he got away.
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If William Bradley is the manwho pulled out that shotgun,
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and took the life of Malcolm X,
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and I can prove it,
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I want to confront him,
face-to-face.
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According to Talmadge Hayer,
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all five of the assassinsof Malcolm X
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came from the mosquein Newark, New Jersey.
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What killed Malcolm Xwas the sawed-off shotgun,
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and Talmadge Hayer says that the gun
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was fired by a mannamed William Bradley.
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Over the years, I had heardthat William X. Bradley
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had changed his name,
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but I could never find outwhat his Muslim name was.
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Salaam-alaikum, sister.
Hamdullah.
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I was at a Muslim function,
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and there was someone
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at this Muslim functionthat was from Newark.
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And I didn't even reallyexpect to get the answer,
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I just approached this..."Oh, you're from Newark?
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You know, the guythat killed Malcolm..."
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And before I could even finish
the question he said, "Oh.
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Al-Mustafa Shabazz.
William Bradley."
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So on and so forth.
And I was just like...
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Wow. You know?
I was blown away. Everything.
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He gave me everything.
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And I couldn't sleep that night.
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Bradley's Muslim name unlockeda whole lot of information,
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including his rap sheet.
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The list of crimes underthe name Al-Mustafa Shabazz
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included aggravated assault,terroristic threats,
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robbery, sexual assault...
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It just went on and on.
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I went back to someof my Newark contacts
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with Bradley's Muslim name.
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And it seemed to makeeveryone pretty nervous.
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- Peace, brother. Peace, brother.
- Hey, how you feeling?
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Brother, let me
ask you a question.
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What're we going to do
about that Mustafa Shabazz,
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William Bradley?
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Leave him alone.
Leave him alone.
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Leave him alone.
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Because he's probably being protected
by the state. Leave him alone.
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Leave him alone.
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If he did what they think he did,
and he's been out here like that,
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they're protecting him.
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I don't want you in prison
behind some bullshit...
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- Oh, no, no, no. I ain't...
- You understand that?
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I'm trying to tell you something.
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Does the name Al-Mustafa Shabazz
ring a bell to you?
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Yes, yes, I knew...
He used to actually come here
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for Jumu'ah as well.
He went other places,
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but Al-Mustafa Shabazz,
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yeah, he used to come here for Jumu'ah.
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He used to go other places,
but he used to...
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'Cause he didn't live too far from here,
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and he was known as William Bradley.
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And on the street,
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they say that he had, um...something to do with Malcolm's killing.
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It's a touchy conversation,
as you can probably see
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how I'm trying to handle it.
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But, yes, that is something
that has been floating around
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that Al-Mustafa Shabazz,
known as William Bradley,
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was the shotgun man
that took Malcolm...
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That took Malcolm out.
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It's been documented thatthere is a triggerman here in Newark
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hiding in plain sight.Have you heard that allegation?
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- Yeah, I've heard it.
- Was it Mustafa
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Al-Shabazz?
You know who he is?
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Shotgun dude. Right.
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No, I remember.
I know what it's about, you know?
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And, you know, the guy was known for...
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you know, having a shotgunand all of those...
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So, it made everything kind of
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sound like it is a possibility,that this could be real.
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There's no evidence of it,but I've heard it, you know?
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Some of that stuff can be dangerous,
you know what I mean? So...
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I mean, that's why I don't like to,
you know, deal with gossip.
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I mean it's just
all innuendo, and uh...
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like circumstantial, and this and that,
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but I, you know...
I've seen him in the community
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a couple of times.
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He's walking around, you know,so obviously,
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if somebody have proof of that,they should come forward with it.
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And if they don't,
if we don't have any proof of it,
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they should just let it alone.
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I kept asking around Newark about Bradley,
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but, basically, he remained elusive.
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And then, I got a tip.
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I got a call from a person who said,"Hey, you know what, man?
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William Bradley was ina 2010 campaign commercial
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for Cory Bookerwhen he was running for mayor of Newark."
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A re-election campaign!
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I mean, this sounded
like crazy talk, you know.
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It's just... I don't...
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I said, "What?"
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He said, "Yes, man!
He is in a video!"
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Violent crime in our city
was getting worse,
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but together, Newark, we took action.
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Adding 300 police to our streets...
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It's onlya millisecond, you know, that he appears,
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but I froze it, and there he is...
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William Bradley,
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today's Al-Mustafa Shabazz.
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It was just mind-blowing.It was mind-blowing.
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This is for the first timethat the world has seen
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the face of the man
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who allegedly took the life of Malcolm X.
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He wasn't even trying to hide, you know?
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He had no fear
of being clipped for this crime.
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And he thought that
the process of reinvention
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was so complete
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that he was audacious enough
to appear on film, on video,
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for a very popular mayor, now senator.
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We are making Newarksafer and stronger.
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And together, Newark,
we are taking back our city.
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Are you familiar withsomebody named William Bradley
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or Al-Mustafa Shabazz?
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- In Newark? From Newark?
- Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Do you know
that he appeared in
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a re-election campaign video
of yours in 2010,
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and that he is one of the people
who allegedly
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murdered Malcolm X?
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That connection,
I was not aware of, no.
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You weren't aware of that?
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You are breaking news to me.
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He's one of the people
that is alleged by whom?
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By Talmadge Hayer,
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who is a convicted assassin,
an admitted assassin
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of Malcolm X.
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- Wow, I was not aware of that.
- Do you want to see it?
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Do you have it with you right now?
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I think we do.
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- Yeah.
- I mean, he doesn't talk.
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He doesn't, but he appears.
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...was getting worse,
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but together, Newark, we took action.
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- That brother right there.
- Yeah. No, I know him well.
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I know him well.
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You've never heard
anything about his affiliation with the...
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I have not heard that.
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- ...assassination of...?
- I have not heard that. Yeah.
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Does it surprise you?
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Um, again,
I would love to know the facts.
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I would love to know the facts.
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Yeah.
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It's one of many threads
of Malcolm's assassination
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that have not been reopened or unearthed.
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Yeah, right.
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And it's important to get to the truth.
And by the way,
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we all know that there's been
wrongful accusations,
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wrongful convictions,
and nobody should be...
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Presumptions shouldn't
be made about anybody.
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But, we should get to the truth.
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And, uh, again,
so much of this history is tied in
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with the history of Newark
and the history in our state.
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Um, we should go...
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We should follow the evidence,
and find out.
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We should know these things.
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Um, but we should not jump
to conclusions about anybody.
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- That's really important.
- Fair enough.
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Yeah, I mean,
he's been named multiple times.
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Off the record,
what do you know about him?
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I mean, he's the one living, um...
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assassin... potential assassin.
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- Assassin. Please...
- Potential.
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- Potential.
- Please, keep saying "potential."
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It turns out thatafter he was released from prison in 1998,
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Bradley built a new lifefor himself in Newark.
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He married a prominent community activist,
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and together they foundeda boxing gym for local youth.
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That's probably how he ended upin that Cory Booker ad.
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Basically,what our young kids need today,
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they need someone
to give them valued time.
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He had become a kind of
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grandfatherly-type figure, you know?
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A mentor to the youth
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who's just going to guide the kids
to the right path.
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I had to set my eyes on this gym.
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I didn't know if I'd see Bradley there.
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I don't even know if I wanted to.
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First Class ChampionshipDevelopment Center
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is what it's called,
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and, um, I think...I even think they have a daycare center,
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if you can imagine that.
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But it looks like it's closed now.
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Yep, nothing but weeds now.
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It's unbelievable, man.
I'm getting...
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I'm really kind of getting
sick to my stomach right now, I really am.
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I'm feeling some kind of way about this,
as I'm talking about it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It's really making me sick.
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That's the first time
I've seen it, you know?
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That's the first time I've seen
that place with my own eyes.
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It's just really appalling
that this has been
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allowed to continue all these decades,
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and no one has done
a damn thing about it.
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It's really, really sickening.
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Let the world see this man.
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This man can no longer
hide in the shadows.
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He can no longer
hide in the shadows.
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Before I could confrontBradley face-to-face,
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I had to put things to rest,
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and collect the evidenceto prove once and for all
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that A, Bradley was guilty,
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and B, Butler and Johnsonwere innocent.
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The trial transcripts don't reveal much.
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Initially, Talmadge Hayer deniedany involvement in the murder.
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But there was ample proof of his guilt.
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I mean, he was caught at the scenewith a.45 clip in his pocket.
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But when it comes to Norman Butlerand Thomas Johnson,
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the only thing they had
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was very contradictory
eyewitness testimony.
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That's all they had.
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There was no
physical evidence to speak of.
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There was onlyone way to catch the shooters,
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and that was to find people,
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and there were hundreds
of people in the room,
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to identify who the shooters were.
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That's what I was concentrated on.
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There was no
physical evidence to be found.
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Now you can, you know...
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People can pick over that
all they want.
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That's all there was to it.
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Today, jurors expect
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when they hear a criminal case,
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there will be forensic evidence
linking a defendant to the crime.
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Obviously, DNA has become
a major, major factor
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in criminal investigation.
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But none of this existedback in the 1960s.
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We relied pretty much on whatpeople saw, what they heard.
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We had ballistics evidence,
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in which a gunin the possession of someone
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matched a bullet that was fired.
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We had fingerprint evidencethat was available in rare cases.
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And of course, we had statements
made by the defendants themselves
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that were viewed
as very compelling evidence.
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Both Butler and Johnson had alibis,
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people who testified they saw themor spoke to them on the phone
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during the exact time periodthe crime took place.
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Butler even had a doctor who testified
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that he saw him that morningfor injuries on his leg,
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that Butler said made itnear impossible for him
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to walk around freely.
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The case againstTalmadge Hayer is ironclad,
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but the case against Butler
and Johnson is weak.
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So the prosecutionsuccessfully convinced the jury
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that the three defendants actedin concert with one another.
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So whateveris used against one,
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is now going to be used against the other.
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So, the ironclad case against Hayer
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is now gonna be coattailed
to the weak cases
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against Butler and Johnson.
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And once that happened,
their fate was basically sealed.
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I had stated myself
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that Norman Butler and Thomas Johnson,
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that they were not involved.
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Originally, when the trial first started,
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I actually felt thatthe brothers would be cut loose.
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I didn't think thatthey was gonna be convicted
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until the trial started going on
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and it became obvious
what was being done.
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When it started to look
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like Butler and Johnsonmight actually be convicted,
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Hayer made his big moveand took the stand a second time.
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That's when he confessed tobeing part of the assassination
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and insisted that Butlerand Johnson were innocent.
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I didn't know Hayer.
I mean, I didn't know him.
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I never saw him before
in my life, never heard of him.
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I knew Johnson.
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We knew each other,but we didn't know Hayer.
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He knew who did it with him,and it wasn't us.
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Watch the wire.
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They want a conviction.
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It doesn't make any differencewhat I say or what he say,
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all they care about is a conviction.
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So, if the white man
say you guilty, you guilty.
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Why? 'Cause he says so
and he got a gun,
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or he got a key, or he got money
and it's that simple.
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All three men, Hayer, Johnson, and Butler,
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got 20 years to life.
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Years later, when Talmadge Hayerfiled an affidavit
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which finally providedthe names of the men
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he said were his real accomplices,
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a judge said he didn'tconsider it new evidence.
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There would need to be some
corroboration of these claims
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in order for a court
really to be satisfied.
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So, on its face, it didn't seemto have enough substance.
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But Bill Kunstler,
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the defense attorney for Hayer,
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did everything humanly possible
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to get the case reopened,
to get it reexamined.
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And he didn't stop with Hayer's affidavit.
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Mr. Kunstler also had an affidavit
from a second person
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named Benjamin Goodman.
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Mr. Goodman was presentat the time of the murder,
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and he claimed, in this affidavitthat Mr. Kunstler filed,
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that the other two men,Butler and Johnson,
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were not present in the auditorium
at the time of the assassination.
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Benjamin Goodman,I know him by his Muslim name,
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Benjamin Karim,he was Malcolm's right-hand man,
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and he opened up for Malcolmthat day at the Audubon.
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For killing Malcolm,to free Norman...
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He passed away in 2005,
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but I dug up an old interview he did
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with a television producerin the mid-90s.
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Norman was innocent.
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You couldn't have paid himto walk through those doors,
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or Johnson, because we knew them.
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We knew what they were capable of.
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We were in charge
of who came through that door,
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and we knew every Muslim
at Number 7,
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and Norman and Johnson
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was as familiar as we were
there with each other.
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But Benjamin Karimwas never called to testify.
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So they were innocent.
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They were railroaded into prison.
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And Malcolm would not have wanted,
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no matter how much they hated him,
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someone to go to prison for his death,
346
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and they were innocent.
347
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I couldn't have
walked in that ballroom.
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- Right. Right.
- Period.
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Everybody in security
for Malcolm that day,
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I worked with. I soldiered with.
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I knew them and they knew me.
352
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I couldn't have walked
in the place, so--
353
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You would've been
immediately recognized.
354
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I worked with all of them.
355
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I worked with all of them.
Every day.
356
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And of course, the cops know that
because BOSS, right?
357
00:19:22,704 --> 00:19:23,964
Bureau of Special Services.
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BOSS was all over Harlem,
and they was in the Nation.
359
00:19:28,001 --> 00:19:30,671
So, the BOSS knows that,
so the police knows that.
360
00:19:30,754 --> 00:19:33,674
They knew that I didn't do it.
I couldn't have done it.
361
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If I wanted to do it,
I couldn't have done it.
362
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So that means they knew
what they were doing
363
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when they put me in jail.
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If there was no police misconduct,
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00:19:42,724 --> 00:19:45,194
what was it?
What do you call it?
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Two weeksafter the anniversary
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00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:54,032
of Malcolm X's assassination,
368
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I went to the scene of the tragedy,
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the Audubon Ballroomin Upper Manhattan.
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Although 20 years had gone by,
371
00:20:00,325 --> 00:20:04,035
a strange pall hung overthe all-but-abandoned hall.
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I was able to convince writer Peter Baileyto come to the ballroom.
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00:20:07,791 --> 00:20:10,501
Gil Noble hadthis incredible show on WABC-TV
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00:20:10,586 --> 00:20:12,126
in New York called Like It Is.
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He wanted to interview mein the Audubon Ballroom,
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which I had sworn
to never set foot in again.
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00:20:18,427 --> 00:20:20,257
Still very visual to me.
378
00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:23,305
Uh... I feel a little shaky,
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00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:27,020
because the place really has, uh,
380
00:20:27,102 --> 00:20:29,102
you know, bad memories
as far as I'm concerned.
381
00:20:29,188 --> 00:20:31,148
I mean it was weird, you know,
382
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I just did not like being there.
383
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We repositioned thechairs where the audience sat
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and cleared the stagefrom which Malcolm stood
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before being gunned down.
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The workmen, miraculously,dug up the actual lectern
387
00:20:44,244 --> 00:20:45,834
behind which Malcolm stood that day.
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00:20:45,913 --> 00:20:48,793
And oneof the things I see is this,
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I guess it's called a rostrum,
390
00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:53,250
and you could see bullet holes in it
391
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and then chalk markssurrounding them.
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00:20:55,172 --> 00:20:57,092
The bullet holeswere still visible.
393
00:20:57,925 --> 00:21:02,465
And he had found this
in the basement at the Audubon.
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00:21:03,597 --> 00:21:04,927
And to me when I saw it,
395
00:21:05,015 --> 00:21:08,055
that just kind of confirmed my belief
396
00:21:08,143 --> 00:21:10,483
that they never had any intentions
397
00:21:10,562 --> 00:21:13,822
of seriously investigating
that assassination.
398
00:21:13,899 --> 00:21:16,149
Why would you leave
a piece of evidence like that?
399
00:21:16,235 --> 00:21:18,485
All those years,
it had been down there
400
00:21:19,905 --> 00:21:21,315
in the basement.
401
00:21:27,829 --> 00:21:29,079
If we want to understand
402
00:21:29,164 --> 00:21:32,134
the New York CityPolice Department's involvement
403
00:21:32,209 --> 00:21:34,039
in Malcolm's assassination,
404
00:21:34,127 --> 00:21:36,337
you got to go back
a few days before,
405
00:21:36,421 --> 00:21:37,841
actually a week before.
406
00:21:37,923 --> 00:21:39,343
Because what happened
a week before
407
00:21:39,424 --> 00:21:41,184
is that Malcolm's house
was firebombed.
408
00:21:45,472 --> 00:21:47,022
While Malcolm X, his wife,
409
00:21:47,099 --> 00:21:48,479
and their four children slept,
410
00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:51,189
three Molotov cocktailswere thrown into the house.
411
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:52,480
The property was badly damaged.
412
00:21:52,563 --> 00:21:54,653
I remember himpushing me out of the bedroom,
413
00:21:54,731 --> 00:21:56,821
and I saw all of the fire.
414
00:21:56,900 --> 00:22:00,200
My husband brought the baby
to me and told me to stand.
415
00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:02,359
Then he broughtmy other children to me.
416
00:22:03,115 --> 00:22:04,985
Had that firegone through that window,
417
00:22:05,075 --> 00:22:07,115
it would have fallen on
a six-year-old girl,
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00:22:07,202 --> 00:22:09,792
a four-year-old girl,
and a two-year-old girl.
419
00:22:09,872 --> 00:22:11,542
And if you attack me,
that's one thing.
420
00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:13,923
I know what to do
when you start attacking me.
421
00:22:14,001 --> 00:22:16,131
But when you attack
sleeping babies,
422
00:22:16,211 --> 00:22:18,171
why, you are lower than a god...
423
00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:25,760
He blames the Muslimson the firebombing
424
00:22:25,846 --> 00:22:28,176
of his New York home.
Do you have a comment on that?
425
00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:31,232
It looks to me
like he did the job himself.
426
00:22:32,603 --> 00:22:36,233
There was a bottle of gasoline
427
00:22:36,315 --> 00:22:38,275
that was found in his house!
428
00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:43,909
We believe that it was put thereby either a police person
429
00:22:43,989 --> 00:22:46,909
or somebody in a fireman's uniform.
430
00:22:46,992 --> 00:22:48,452
Eventually what happens is that
431
00:22:48,535 --> 00:22:52,205
the NYPD begins to go
off the record to reporters.
432
00:22:52,289 --> 00:22:55,039
And saying, you know,
433
00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:57,415
"This is suspicious.
You know, we're not sure
434
00:22:57,503 --> 00:23:01,843
if a firebombing actually took place.
435
00:23:01,924 --> 00:23:04,094
Malcolm may possiblyhave done this
436
00:23:04,176 --> 00:23:05,886
for a publicity stunt."
437
00:23:06,678 --> 00:23:08,678
It sends out the message
438
00:23:08,764 --> 00:23:12,734
that you don't have to takeMalcolm's security that serious
439
00:23:12,809 --> 00:23:16,359
because he's willing
to bomb his own house.
440
00:23:16,438 --> 00:23:17,808
You know what
the temperature was?
441
00:23:17,898 --> 00:23:19,318
It was about 15 or 20.
442
00:23:19,399 --> 00:23:21,569
I stood in my underwear,
443
00:23:21,652 --> 00:23:24,072
bare feet, in the middle
of my driveway
444
00:23:24,154 --> 00:23:26,664
with a gun in my hand
for 45 minutes
445
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:27,870
waiting for the police,
446
00:23:27,950 --> 00:23:29,910
or waiting for
the fire department to come.
447
00:23:29,993 --> 00:23:31,333
If I want to put on a show,
448
00:23:31,411 --> 00:23:33,871
I could find a better way
than that to put it on.
449
00:23:35,332 --> 00:23:38,252
Even before their house was firebombed,
450
00:23:38,335 --> 00:23:40,335
Malcolm and his familyhad plenty of reasons
451
00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:42,130
not to trust the NYPD.
452
00:23:43,131 --> 00:23:44,471
Has anyone threatened you?
453
00:23:44,550 --> 00:23:46,180
That's all I get is threats.
454
00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:50,350
And I called the 114th precinct
a few days ago.
455
00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:53,230
They informed me that it was
nothing they could do, you know.
456
00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:56,404
But in those final weeks,
457
00:23:56,478 --> 00:24:00,268
it was clear Malcolm wasin dire need of protection.
458
00:24:00,983 --> 00:24:03,113
It was also clearthat he wasn't getting it.
459
00:24:07,197 --> 00:24:10,237
That is partof the complex tragedy
460
00:24:10,325 --> 00:24:12,945
of Malcolm,
but of being black in America.
461
00:24:13,036 --> 00:24:15,456
Martin Luther King
has been to jail.
462
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,039
James Farmer has been to jail.
463
00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:20,665
Why, you can't name
a black man in this country
464
00:24:20,752 --> 00:24:24,052
who is sick and tired
of the hell that he's catching
465
00:24:24,131 --> 00:24:25,471
who hasn't been to jail.
466
00:24:26,925 --> 00:24:29,885
To turn to the peopleor the system
467
00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:33,060
that inflicted damage on you
to protect you...
468
00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:34,890
Like, how crazy is that?
469
00:24:34,975 --> 00:24:37,345
So the policemen in this country
470
00:24:37,436 --> 00:24:41,056
are the ones who areresponsible for the brutality.
471
00:24:41,148 --> 00:24:44,398
The policemen themselveshave become guilty
472
00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:46,494
of violating the rights of the people.
473
00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:48,490
So what are the people to do?
474
00:24:48,572 --> 00:24:50,202
Call upon the same ones
475
00:24:50,282 --> 00:24:52,242
who are victimizing them
to protect them?
476
00:24:52,326 --> 00:24:53,486
No!
477
00:24:55,454 --> 00:24:56,914
They have to protect themselves.
478
00:24:56,997 --> 00:24:58,327
Excuse me for raising my voice.
479
00:24:58,415 --> 00:25:00,575
They have to protect themselves.
But I get excited...
480
00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:03,337
You knew he was in grave,mortal danger?
481
00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:04,880
No question.
482
00:25:06,757 --> 00:25:10,137
Didn't you see yourselves
as duty-bound to protect this man
483
00:25:10,219 --> 00:25:12,139
from an imminent death threat?
484
00:25:12,221 --> 00:25:16,931
Not, uh... I wouldn't say
I didn't see that.
485
00:25:17,017 --> 00:25:18,847
All I could see was the expense.
486
00:25:19,728 --> 00:25:21,228
That's really all I could see.
487
00:25:22,814 --> 00:25:28,614
"We can't afford it."
It's 24/7, cops, detectives...
488
00:25:28,695 --> 00:25:32,525
Can't do it.
But we know he's in danger,
489
00:25:32,616 --> 00:25:34,826
and we are duty-bound
to acknowledge it.
490
00:25:35,911 --> 00:25:40,421
So it was then that I struck
my cleverest note.
491
00:25:40,499 --> 00:25:43,749
I said, "Your answer is obvious.
492
00:25:44,503 --> 00:25:47,763
We'll all go off,
tell him that his life is in danger.
493
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,340
We'll offer him security,
he will decline it,
494
00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:53,176
and we need to document that."
495
00:25:55,055 --> 00:25:56,515
If you look carefully through
496
00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:59,388
the New York City Police Archives,
497
00:25:59,476 --> 00:26:02,476
you will see a documentwhere we offered him security
498
00:26:02,563 --> 00:26:03,693
and he declined it.
499
00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:07,570
So it was a cynical gesture, for sure.
500
00:26:08,318 --> 00:26:09,528
A cynical gesture?
501
00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:10,611
Yes.
502
00:26:11,572 --> 00:26:13,072
A cynical gesture.
503
00:26:13,156 --> 00:26:17,946
Me offering him something
I knew he would refuse,
504
00:26:18,036 --> 00:26:20,956
and that I expected
and wanted him to refuse.
505
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,169
Why did you know
he would refuse it?
506
00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:26,960
I knew Malcolm. That's why.
507
00:26:27,629 --> 00:26:29,209
I think peopleshould question
508
00:26:29,298 --> 00:26:32,378
some of the police who investigatedthe bombing out there that night,
509
00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:34,547
and let them give their storyas to whether or not
510
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:36,006
I could have set those bombs.
511
00:26:36,096 --> 00:26:38,516
Malcolm did not trust the police.
512
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:42,729
And so he did not take securitythe way that it was needed.
513
00:26:44,104 --> 00:26:47,444
And what ultimately happens is,a week later,
514
00:26:47,524 --> 00:26:50,444
his security is going to be compromised.
515
00:26:50,527 --> 00:26:51,947
And who compromises it?
516
00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:54,069
The New York City
Police Department.
517
00:26:54,156 --> 00:26:56,446
And once his security
was compromised,
518
00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:58,793
he was basically a sitting duck.
519
00:26:58,869 --> 00:27:00,789
Do you thinkNew York Police are providing
520
00:27:00,871 --> 00:27:04,041
enough protection, or do you feelthat you have to provide your own?
521
00:27:04,124 --> 00:27:06,174
Do I feel that theNew York Police are providing
522
00:27:06,251 --> 00:27:08,051
enough protection,or do I have to have
523
00:27:08,128 --> 00:27:10,128
protection of my own?
524
00:27:10,214 --> 00:27:12,764
I look for protection from Allah.
525
00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:21,930
My guest tonight,Malcolm X,
526
00:27:22,017 --> 00:27:23,937
once the number two manin the Black Muslims,
527
00:27:24,019 --> 00:27:25,599
now broken with Elijah Muhammad.
528
00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:27,897
He says he's a marked manand that a number of attempts
529
00:27:27,981 --> 00:27:29,071
have been made on his life.
530
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:30,819
You say five different attempts recently.
531
00:27:30,901 --> 00:27:33,071
- How were they attempted?
- Yes, um,
532
00:27:33,153 --> 00:27:34,113
more than five.
533
00:27:34,196 --> 00:27:35,906
Malcolm was a U.S. citizen.
534
00:27:35,989 --> 00:27:39,659
He was also a very high-profile,
public personality.
535
00:27:41,537 --> 00:27:43,787
He was under constant threat.
536
00:27:44,414 --> 00:27:46,214
He was being followed.
537
00:27:47,459 --> 00:27:51,169
And the authoritieshad a responsibility, I believe,
538
00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:53,585
to protect his life at all costs.
539
00:27:53,674 --> 00:27:56,474
I am very happy
to be here this evening.
540
00:27:57,469 --> 00:28:00,809
And I'm thankful for the invitationto come here to Detroit.
541
00:28:02,349 --> 00:28:05,269
Uh, I was in a house last nightthat was bombed, my own.
542
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,270
Excuse meif I keep coughing like that,
543
00:28:10,357 --> 00:28:12,317
but I got some of thatsmoke last night...
544
00:28:12,401 --> 00:28:14,321
Duringthat last week or so,
545
00:28:14,403 --> 00:28:16,533
Malcolm was unraveled.
546
00:28:17,573 --> 00:28:18,573
He wondered, I think,
547
00:28:18,657 --> 00:28:20,617
how his family was goingto be taken care of.
548
00:28:20,701 --> 00:28:22,701
And whenthis explosion took place,
549
00:28:22,786 --> 00:28:24,706
in trying to get my familyout of the house,
550
00:28:24,788 --> 00:28:26,578
none of us stoppedfor any clothes.
551
00:28:26,665 --> 00:28:29,915
The only thing I could get my hands on iswhat I have on now.
552
00:28:30,002 --> 00:28:33,882
He was homeless.He was literally homeless.
553
00:28:33,964 --> 00:28:37,054
And I was toldby his personal secretary
554
00:28:37,134 --> 00:28:39,974
that he didn't even have
150 dollars to his name.
555
00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:42,972
He couldn't even buyan insurance policy.
556
00:28:44,016 --> 00:28:46,476
No insurance companywould sell him a policy.
557
00:28:49,062 --> 00:28:50,522
It was coming.
558
00:28:51,148 --> 00:28:52,728
And he knew it was coming
559
00:28:52,816 --> 00:28:54,986
and everyone elseknew it was coming.
560
00:28:56,445 --> 00:28:59,905
He said, "It will
all be over soon."
561
00:29:05,621 --> 00:29:09,501
It was clear that he was
under enormous pressure,
562
00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:16,470
and that leads me
to that February morning.
563
00:29:20,802 --> 00:29:22,392
It was Sunday morning.
564
00:29:25,474 --> 00:29:28,734
It was a cold,bitterly cold morning, I remember.
565
00:29:32,231 --> 00:29:36,031
That Sunday,there were just all kinds of signs...
566
00:29:37,694 --> 00:29:41,244
that something was going on.
567
00:29:47,579 --> 00:29:51,329
Death was all over Malcolm
that whole day.
568
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,670
The deterrent effect
569
00:29:58,757 --> 00:30:01,967
of having law enforcementpresent was not there.
570
00:30:04,429 --> 00:30:07,309
On that day, there were
two uniformed officers
571
00:30:07,391 --> 00:30:11,651
and they're kind of upstairs,
away from the crowd.
572
00:30:13,188 --> 00:30:14,898
If anything--
573
00:30:14,982 --> 00:30:17,362
the man's house was firebombedthe previous week--
574
00:30:17,442 --> 00:30:19,192
you add more security!
575
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:22,610
There was virtually no security.
576
00:30:25,868 --> 00:30:27,908
The last timeyou cased the joint,
577
00:30:27,995 --> 00:30:29,825
- police were there, you knew that the...
- If... If...
578
00:30:29,913 --> 00:30:32,173
If... If...
It would have been a deterrent
579
00:30:32,249 --> 00:30:35,419
if the officer was stationed
in such a position
580
00:30:35,502 --> 00:30:39,462
that it could have affected
the situation of entering.
581
00:30:39,548 --> 00:30:42,718
It would have been a deterrent
if, uh, there was a search at the door.
582
00:30:43,552 --> 00:30:45,512
Um, it could have been a deterrent,
583
00:30:45,596 --> 00:30:48,016
um, in that respect.
584
00:30:48,098 --> 00:30:50,638
You know... Entering the place
would have been impossible
585
00:30:50,726 --> 00:30:52,186
under those circumstances.
586
00:30:52,269 --> 00:30:54,439
But none of this happened.
587
00:30:54,521 --> 00:30:57,321
Tell me where you sat.
588
00:30:58,734 --> 00:31:00,444
Down in front, in the front row,
589
00:31:00,527 --> 00:31:03,157
uh, basically, on the left-hand side
590
00:31:03,238 --> 00:31:05,368
close to the front of the stage.
591
00:31:06,783 --> 00:31:08,703
No officers in sight.
592
00:31:08,785 --> 00:31:13,075
No security procedureto get into the ballroom.
593
00:31:14,833 --> 00:31:17,843
The assassins just walked in there,
594
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,550
and Malcolm's security coordinator,
595
00:31:21,632 --> 00:31:22,972
a man named Gene Roberts,
596
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:27,800
had only a small security forceto protect Malcolm.
597
00:31:29,139 --> 00:31:31,849
I was part of the front rostrum guards,
598
00:31:31,934 --> 00:31:34,604
the guards that standin front of the stage,
599
00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:38,475
and when Malcolm cameinto the ballroom that Sunday,
600
00:31:38,565 --> 00:31:42,105
I escorted him in the backto a little office area.
601
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,530
As the rally started to form up,
602
00:31:48,659 --> 00:31:52,369
I noticed three peoplesitting on the front row
603
00:31:52,454 --> 00:31:54,214
reading newspapers.
604
00:31:54,915 --> 00:31:59,995
I didn't bother to mention it becausethey were there before I got there,
605
00:32:00,754 --> 00:32:03,174
and I figured they hadalready been checked out.
606
00:32:12,516 --> 00:32:16,016
Just as Malcolmwas being introduced...
607
00:32:16,603 --> 00:32:18,193
- Salaam-alaikum.
- Alaikum-Salaam.
608
00:32:18,272 --> 00:32:20,152
Get your hand out of my pocket!
609
00:32:21,316 --> 00:32:24,356
Hold it, hold it, hold it...
610
00:32:25,195 --> 00:32:28,485
Two individualsstarted a commotion,
611
00:32:28,574 --> 00:32:31,544
and I started walking towards them.
612
00:32:33,495 --> 00:32:36,035
And the next thing I know,
I see these guys firing shots.
613
00:32:39,168 --> 00:32:41,248
And everybody panicked.
614
00:32:41,336 --> 00:32:43,756
People were knocking
over chairs, running out.
615
00:32:44,715 --> 00:32:47,425
Two of the individuals ran right by me,
616
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:50,139
and the last guy,
I hit him with the chair.
617
00:32:50,762 --> 00:32:53,562
He stumbles, he gets up,
he runs outside.
618
00:32:59,146 --> 00:33:01,316
I went straight to the stage,
619
00:33:03,358 --> 00:33:04,778
felt Malcolm's pulse.
620
00:33:05,527 --> 00:33:07,277
He still had one,but it was weak.
621
00:33:08,739 --> 00:33:10,869
And then I started to, um...
622
00:33:10,949 --> 00:33:12,699
started to give him
mouth-to-mouth.
623
00:33:14,661 --> 00:33:16,411
After maybe about five minutes,
624
00:33:16,496 --> 00:33:19,416
uh, not wanting to tell Bettythat he was dead,
625
00:33:19,499 --> 00:33:21,539
I told Betty that, um,
626
00:33:21,627 --> 00:33:23,247
"I'm getting a little dizzy."
627
00:33:23,337 --> 00:33:24,917
Maybe somebody else could try.
628
00:33:25,881 --> 00:33:29,591
At that point,she got on her knees next to him,
629
00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:32,345
but it was too late.
630
00:33:37,643 --> 00:33:39,023
Mrs. Shabazz,
do you believe
631
00:33:39,102 --> 00:33:41,812
it was the Black Muslims
who assassinated your husband?
632
00:33:45,609 --> 00:33:47,569
Do you think, ma'am,
that this assassination
633
00:33:47,653 --> 00:33:50,953
is likely to touch off reprisals
against Black Muslims
634
00:33:51,031 --> 00:33:52,741
by Malcolm's followers?
635
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Will you make
any effort at all
636
00:33:57,204 --> 00:33:58,874
to continue your husband's work?
637
00:34:01,917 --> 00:34:03,037
What
do you see as the future
638
00:34:03,126 --> 00:34:04,246
of your husband's
movement, ma'am?
639
00:34:04,336 --> 00:34:06,206
Do you think it will
continue without him?
640
00:34:08,924 --> 00:34:10,474
Since the bombing
of your home,
641
00:34:10,551 --> 00:34:13,511
have the police made any effort
to offer you protection?
642
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,230
If Malcolm's
assassins are caught,
643
00:34:18,308 --> 00:34:20,188
what do you think
should be done with them?
644
00:34:24,022 --> 00:34:26,322
Did you start
to reply to the question
645
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,690
about the police protection?
646
00:34:27,776 --> 00:34:30,276
Did they make any effort at all
to offer you protection?
647
00:34:31,655 --> 00:34:34,405
Well, I guess
they did make an effort, yes.
648
00:34:34,491 --> 00:34:37,371
Did they offer you
a bodyguard or anything like that?
649
00:34:38,161 --> 00:34:40,661
- No.
- Do you want police protection?
650
00:34:51,967 --> 00:34:55,137
After he triedand failed to save his boss' life,
651
00:34:55,929 --> 00:34:58,519
Gene Roberts left the Audubon.
652
00:34:59,933 --> 00:35:03,233
I couldn't feel anythinguntil I got home...
653
00:35:05,439 --> 00:35:07,859
after which, I start shaking like a leaf.
654
00:35:09,151 --> 00:35:13,781
My mom and dad was visibly upset.
655
00:35:16,241 --> 00:35:19,241
And, you know, they asked me
if I was all right and everything.
656
00:35:19,328 --> 00:35:20,618
I said, "Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine."
657
00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:23,294
I told them I had to make
a couple of phone calls.
658
00:35:25,292 --> 00:35:27,002
I called my supervisor up.
659
00:35:27,794 --> 00:35:31,174
I told him, uh,that Malcolm had been shot.
660
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:36,090
I was told to come into the officethe next morning,
661
00:35:36,929 --> 00:35:39,259
which was Bureau
of Special Services.
662
00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:44,690
It's true.
663
00:35:44,770 --> 00:35:47,610
Gene Roberts was oneof those operatives
664
00:35:47,689 --> 00:35:51,609
working for the NYPD
in the Bureau of Special Services
665
00:35:51,693 --> 00:35:56,073
who was put in
to various black groups.
666
00:35:56,657 --> 00:35:59,327
If there's any doubt whether the NYPD
667
00:35:59,409 --> 00:36:02,749
really cared about the fateof Malcolm and his family,
668
00:36:02,829 --> 00:36:05,459
the story of Gene Robertsputs it to rest.
669
00:36:06,542 --> 00:36:10,592
Roberts wasan undercover police officer.
670
00:36:10,671 --> 00:36:15,051
He belonged to a very
secretive unit within the NYPD.
671
00:36:15,884 --> 00:36:19,394
He had managed to infiltrateMalcolm's organization,
672
00:36:19,471 --> 00:36:23,851
and he rose to the positionof personal bodyguard
673
00:36:23,934 --> 00:36:25,314
and security for Malcolm.
674
00:36:26,061 --> 00:36:29,191
I had never doneanything of this nature before.
675
00:36:30,357 --> 00:36:33,027
But at that time,
I had a pregnant wife,
676
00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:35,360
and hey, it's a job,
and let's go out and do it.
677
00:36:37,948 --> 00:36:39,618
We wanted someone
678
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,540
to infiltrate Malcolm's new organization.
679
00:36:44,496 --> 00:36:46,996
We didn't knowwhere Malcolm was going,
680
00:36:47,082 --> 00:36:48,212
or what he was going to do,
681
00:36:48,292 --> 00:36:50,092
or whether hewas going to break the law.
682
00:36:50,711 --> 00:36:52,841
We just figured out what we needed.
683
00:36:54,047 --> 00:36:58,887
Black male, no roots in the
police department, no relatives.
684
00:37:00,137 --> 00:37:01,847
And, uh, we'd say,
685
00:37:01,930 --> 00:37:05,430
"We'll induct you into the police
department on January 1."
686
00:37:06,435 --> 00:37:10,015
But you never get a uniform,never get a gun.
687
00:37:10,689 --> 00:37:12,319
You'd never even get sworn in!
688
00:37:13,692 --> 00:37:17,912
Nobody knows you
except a particular little group
689
00:37:18,405 --> 00:37:21,195
which was Bureau of Special Services.
690
00:37:23,243 --> 00:37:25,083
I didn't know whetherI had backup or not,
691
00:37:25,162 --> 00:37:26,212
I was just out there.
692
00:37:27,414 --> 00:37:29,294
Far as I know,
I was out there by myself.
693
00:37:30,959 --> 00:37:33,379
Malcolm thoughtthat the police department
694
00:37:33,462 --> 00:37:37,722
was monitoring him,but in a very obvious way.
695
00:37:38,675 --> 00:37:42,175
I don't think he understood
that his closest associate
696
00:37:42,262 --> 00:37:43,602
was working for us.
697
00:37:46,183 --> 00:37:48,393
Turns out,not only did Malcolm not know
698
00:37:48,477 --> 00:37:52,937
about Roberts, the prosecutionin the case didn't either.
699
00:37:53,023 --> 00:37:57,073
Which means that Roberts was neverinterviewed for the investigation,
700
00:37:57,152 --> 00:37:59,402
even though he was right there.
701
00:38:00,572 --> 00:38:02,872
I like to think thathe was standing on post,
702
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:04,830
facing out at the audience,
703
00:38:04,910 --> 00:38:09,460
and he could see all of the faces
in that audience of 400 people,
704
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:12,750
including the facesof the five assassins.
705
00:38:14,002 --> 00:38:18,632
I didn't know about him.
I was never told about him, okay?
706
00:38:18,715 --> 00:38:21,585
At the time,
in charge of the investigation,
707
00:38:21,677 --> 00:38:24,557
I knew nothing about
the existence of this man. Nothing.
708
00:38:26,682 --> 00:38:29,182
They wanted to protect his identity,
709
00:38:30,477 --> 00:38:32,347
but they sure protected it from me.
710
00:38:32,437 --> 00:38:34,307
I don't know what side
they thought I was on,
711
00:38:34,398 --> 00:38:36,648
but I didn't know anything
about him.
712
00:38:46,201 --> 00:38:49,041
There wasa LIFE magazine article,
713
00:38:49,121 --> 00:38:52,581
uh, which there's a pictureof Gene Roberts
714
00:38:52,666 --> 00:38:56,296
giving mouth-to-mouthresuscitation to Malcolm X
715
00:38:56,378 --> 00:38:57,878
after he had been shot.
716
00:38:58,797 --> 00:39:00,587
Pretty shocking thing.
717
00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:05,304
Nobody knew that he was
an intelligence operative.
718
00:39:05,387 --> 00:39:10,477
Nobody ever knew he was there!
719
00:39:12,728 --> 00:39:14,808
I didn't sleep well that night.
720
00:39:17,441 --> 00:39:19,941
The next day, I get called downby the department,
721
00:39:20,027 --> 00:39:22,277
and the basic question was,
722
00:39:22,362 --> 00:39:23,612
"Why did you do that?"
723
00:39:23,697 --> 00:39:25,277
Knocked a guy down with a chair,
724
00:39:25,365 --> 00:39:27,235
give Malcolm mouth-to-mouth.
725
00:39:27,326 --> 00:39:29,786
And I told them thatmy only reasoning was
726
00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:32,960
because I was a cop,and it was my job
727
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,210
to possibly save lives if I could.
728
00:39:35,792 --> 00:39:38,212
What am I supposed to do?
Just let him lay there and die?
729
00:39:42,216 --> 00:39:43,716
Why would you do that?
730
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,350
You're a cop. He's a thug,
731
00:39:46,428 --> 00:39:50,218
and you're giving himmouth-to-mouth resuscitation.
732
00:39:50,307 --> 00:39:51,887
Inappropriate.
733
00:39:51,975 --> 00:39:55,645
This is them, we are us.
We don't do that.
734
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:58,400
You're not there to be Malcolm's friend.
735
00:39:58,482 --> 00:40:00,322
You're there to monitor his behavior,
736
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,030
or maybe lead to his arrest.
737
00:40:04,404 --> 00:40:06,454
They're not autonomous agents.
738
00:40:07,241 --> 00:40:09,791
These are spies and tools.
739
00:40:09,868 --> 00:40:12,578
They're not even allowed to think.
740
00:40:13,622 --> 00:40:16,252
They're only there
to observe and report.
741
00:40:18,085 --> 00:40:20,295
So, thinking is dangerous.
742
00:40:24,216 --> 00:40:25,966
Somebody in the executive level
743
00:40:26,051 --> 00:40:27,471
obviously made a decision
744
00:40:27,553 --> 00:40:30,063
that they did not wantto surface this man.
745
00:40:30,556 --> 00:40:32,346
Maybe they were afraid
that if they told me,
746
00:40:32,432 --> 00:40:34,982
I would've insisted that he be a witness.
747
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:37,350
I don't know. I don't even know
what he would've said,
748
00:40:37,437 --> 00:40:40,317
because...
I never even got to see him.
749
00:40:46,154 --> 00:40:48,374
If the NYPD had an agent
750
00:40:48,448 --> 00:40:50,078
in the Audubon that day,
751
00:40:50,158 --> 00:40:52,828
close enough to give himmouth-to-mouth,
752
00:40:54,037 --> 00:40:57,577
it makes me wonder who elselaw enforcement had on the inside
753
00:40:57,666 --> 00:40:59,246
that nobody knows about.
754
00:41:05,299 --> 00:41:08,089
Sunday afternoon,I was listening to music
755
00:41:09,261 --> 00:41:10,681
and Malcolm was shot.
756
00:41:12,222 --> 00:41:14,732
I got up, went upstairs,started to get dressed.
757
00:41:14,808 --> 00:41:16,098
Mary said, "Where are you going?"
758
00:41:16,185 --> 00:41:17,765
I said, "I'm going to work."
759
00:41:19,688 --> 00:41:21,438
She said, "The office hasn't called."
760
00:41:21,523 --> 00:41:22,903
I said, "They will."
761
00:41:25,652 --> 00:41:27,912
The phone rang and I heard her say,
762
00:41:27,988 --> 00:41:30,618
"He's on his way,he just left."
763
00:41:35,913 --> 00:41:37,543
The whole squad was called in.
764
00:41:37,623 --> 00:41:41,883
And the supervisorsent me to be liaison
765
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,510
with the police departmenton the investigation.
766
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,340
Did the Bureau have anybodyin the Audubon Ballroom that day?
767
00:41:52,304 --> 00:41:53,394
Nine informants.
768
00:41:53,472 --> 00:41:54,312
Nine?
769
00:41:54,389 --> 00:41:57,729
Nine informants.I had nine informants.
770
00:41:58,894 --> 00:42:00,734
We got a report from all of them.
771
00:42:01,772 --> 00:42:03,272
A couple of them just quit.
772
00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:06,527
The shooting was morethan they bargained for.
773
00:42:07,694 --> 00:42:10,204
Chief, were there any
plainclothesmen in the audience?
774
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,160
No, there were not.
775
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,460
If Gene Robertshad been allowed to take the stand
776
00:42:27,548 --> 00:42:29,088
at Malcolm's trial,
777
00:42:29,174 --> 00:42:31,894
would he have been able to identifythe man with the shotgun?
778
00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:34,390
We'll never know.
779
00:42:36,557 --> 00:42:39,267
William Bradley,Al-Mustafa Shabazz,
780
00:42:39,935 --> 00:42:41,805
if he was in factthe shotgun assassin,
781
00:42:42,521 --> 00:42:44,651
he walked outof the Audubon that day,
782
00:42:46,191 --> 00:42:48,611
and disappeared into obscurity.
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