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I never experienced anything paranormal before I moved into that house.
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What is that?
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I have no idea.
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Hear it?
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It's walking back and forth up there.
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Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!
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We didn't expect anything to happen.
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But this night was different.
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I'm getting goose bumps.
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I can recall that moment.
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He was lifted through the air.
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What happened?
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I was in shock.
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I was worried they would find me dead.
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Or that I would find them dead.
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I was 23 years old.
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I had a
two-year-old son.
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And I was six or seven months pregnant with my daughter.
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My husband and I were having problems,
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and we just decided it was better for us and the kids,
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if we just weren't together.
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I was looking for a place to rent,
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and I wasn't looking for anything in particular.
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I just stumbled across that place.
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- Apple?
- I liked it right away.
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Yeah.
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It was a little bungalow. It was off the street.
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It was private. It was the perfect place to start a new life.
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My ambitions were to finish school.
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And to get a job that I could support my family with.
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I was trying to get my degree,
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so it was a lot of work at home, a lot of studying.
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This clown is my husband.
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- Husband?
- Yeah, you know. Husband.
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I had this picture in my mind. Everything was just gonna be perfect.
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But after about a month or so, I started to hear odd sounds around the house.
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It sounded like pebbles..
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Like somebody dropped a handful pebbles.
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From the top of the wall, and they just fell all the way to the bottom.
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That is not a normal sound that a house makes.
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It was just so distinctive.
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Gave me a shiver up my spine.
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Bit by bit, I began to realize that a lot of the activity was..
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Coming from above me.
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It happened every night.
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A very particular strange sound.
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Very high-pitched, almost to where it hurt your ears.
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It seemed to be coming from up in the attic.
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I noticed that the trap door was open.
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I never would have opened that door.
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I wanted to put the door on right.
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I started to think that I was not alone.
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That there was other things in that house besides me.
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- Hey.
- Hey.
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You okay?
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My close friends were staying more and more often.
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Thanks.
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I remember telling my friend, Susan, some of the things that happened.
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So what's up?
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She was a big support.
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And they sound like they're coming from the ceiling.
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What the hell was that?
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We heard a big bang coming from the kitchen.
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One of the pictures that was hanging on the wall,
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was propped up against the sink.
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The nails were also placed..
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They were standing perfectly on their heads.
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Nails can't come directly out of a hole,
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come down, then end up on their heads.
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Somebody or something did that.
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Eight.
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What's this one?
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One of the neighbors was a young girl.
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She was 16 years old. Her name was Tina.
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She would come over and baby-sit for me.
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Don't forget to change him before you put him down, okay?
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Of course.
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I thought that she was really, really nice, and she was a really dedicated Mom.
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I'll see you soon, okay?
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Hmm? Yeah?
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- Go away.
- Be good.
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I enjoyed her company a lot. Like, we used to
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talk and hang out even when I wasn't babysitting.
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- Okay. Have a good night.
- Okay. Bye.
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Jackie was out, and she'd asked me to babysit.
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And Jamie was asleep.
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It was getting pretty late. I hadn't heard any noise for a while.
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So I wanted to just make sure that he was okay and peek in on him.
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The door just opened for me, and I thought, "well, that's weird".
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Turned around and pushed the door closed behind me.
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The latch caught the door.
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Jamie was fine.
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But then coming back, the same thing happened.
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I thought, "maybe, you know, it's the house. It's"..
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"The floor's not level, If you step here, it's gonna swing the door".
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I would explain it away, explain it away.
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But when it got to the point that I couldn't explain it away..
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It was very frightening.
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So how's school going?
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It's all right.
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We were just talking, making something to eat.
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Hey, do you see this?
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I looked up, and there was these lights.
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What is that?
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I have no idea.
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It wasn't something that I've ever seen before.
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It's not like a reflection off of anything.
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They had, like, substance to them, you know?
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I really don't have a good feeling about this.
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- You know what?
- Yeah, Jackie, let's just get out.
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I did not want to be in her house.
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I remember grabbing the camera and taking some pictures.
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Oh, come on.
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Then all of a sudden, the camera stopped working.
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What is wrong with this thing?
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She handed me the camera, and she's like..
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"See if you can get it to work". And I thought..
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"Well, maybe if we're not trying to take pictures of the lights, it'll work".
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So I pointed it out the kitchen window.
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I saw a face in the viewfinder.
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Of an emaciated old man..
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Almost skeleton-like.
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I had to run.
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When that happened, there was no doubt in my
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mind that there was something in that house.
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What number is that?
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- Nine.
- Nine!
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Yeah! You're hilarious.
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- Seven.
- Seven!
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What is that one?
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My ex-husband, Al, used to come and visit every now and then.
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He was very, very good with Jamie.
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I was telling Al some of the things that had been going on in the house.
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I think there's something wrong with this house.
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She felt that there was something very odd about the house.
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She says, "I feel something here".
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I get this cold feeling about it.
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Truthfully, I thought that she was trying to draw attention.
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And trying to draw my attention to the fact that she was alone.
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You don't believe me, do you?
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He didn't really believe me. He thought I was exaggerating.
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Without a doubt, I had to assume that maybe something was wrong with her.
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I thought, "how can I explain this to her where she'll feel that,"
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"yeah, that's right, that's what it is, nothing to worry about?"
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There has to be an explanation.
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He was trying to talk to me, and saying, "you know,"
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"why don't you just call it out, challenge it?"
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What?
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Call it out.
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I said, "well, if you are here,"
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"then let's see".
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Show yourself.
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I was just terrified. I'm like, "what the heck is he doing?"
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"What's gonna happen next?"
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Nothing did happen. It was just still.
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See?
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I'll see you when I can.
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I go into the closet.
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An entire wall was written Al.
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"A" in blue and "L" in red.
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And it was written hundreds and hundreds of times.
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That was the answer to the challenge.
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If I had the money, I would have moved out right away.
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But there was no way I could have moved with the expense that it costs to move.
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You need to to tell someone what's going on here.
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Susan said, "well, maybe you should tell the landlords what's going on".
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It's their house.
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I remember me saying, "I don't want to tell anybody"
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"because I don't want them to think I'm nuts".
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It was a few weeks later that I was out walking with Susan.
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I was eight or nine months pregnant at the time.
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- How are ya?
- Susan.
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The landlord and his wife were also coming back.
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We bumped into each other on the sidewalk,
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and then Sue just brought up the activity that was happening in the house.
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Jackie's having some trouble at the house.
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When the landlord acted concerned about it,
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then I thought, "well, maybe he's not gonna think I'm crazy".
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He asked if I had any objection to them..
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Bringing in a priest.
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So I said, "sure".
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I just didn't have a good feeling towards them from the very beginning.
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They both seemed to be very cynical about everything,
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like they were judging me.
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I see you like horror movies.
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Uh, those ones are my ex-husband's.
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Your ex-husband?
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Yeah.
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I had a aquarium.
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On the bottom, there was a little ornament of a skeleton.
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He said that I was bringing death into my house.
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Uh, wait I'm sorry?
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The skeleton.
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That just struck me as odd.
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I had a collection of dolls from different countries.
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There was one that was a souvenir from the Caribbean.
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He said it was a voodoo doll.
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By that point, I was feeling very, very uncomfortable.
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Seems to me like you are bringing most of this trouble on yourself.
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Um, I'll be right back. I just have to go get my son, okay?
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Jamie was screaming.
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They said my son wasn't acting normal.
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And that he was possessed by the devil.
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That's why he was crying.
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- He doesn't appear to be acting normal.
- He said, "can we bless your son?"
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In the name of the Father, the Son..
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Jamie just screamed. He didn't want this guy near him.
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And the Holy Spirit..
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Then he said, "don't you want to bless the unborn too?"
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In the name of the Father, the Son..
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I do believe in God, but everything they said as far as I
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was concerned when they entered that house was ridiculous.
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Fish!
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Whee!
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The following day was gonna be a long
one for me because I had an assignment due.
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Hi, Jackie Hernandez?
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- Yes.
- Hi, I'm from Social Services.
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I'm wondering if you have a moment that I could come in and speak with you.
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That just caught me totally off guard, like, you know,
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what would social services be doing here?
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- Come on in.
- Thank you.
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Sorry about the mess.
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It was like probably the worst time ever that
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they could have knocked on my door and come in.
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I hadn't had a chance to clean it that morning.
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Jamie had chocolate cupcake on his face.
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He was still in his pajamas.
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Can I ask why you're here?
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We've had a report that..
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She said they had a report from, the two priests that I had been..
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On hallucinogenics and I was pregnant.
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I'm sorry?
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It was just so off the wall to me and crazy.
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I had never taken any drugs. I wasn't even drinking.
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I was worried for my kids.
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It is possible to take your children, even if you are a perfect Mother.
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That's everything I need for today.
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- Okay.
- Okay.
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It just taught me the lesson things are better left unsaid.
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Because you never know what can happen if you tell people.
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I wasn't going to say anything to anybody ever again.
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Shortly after that, I had Samantha, my daughter.
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I brought her home, and after everything that happened,
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I really was hesitant about bringing her there, but I had no choice.
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A couple of days later, I return from grocery shopping.
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I had the bags in my arm.
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It spelled, "get the hell out".
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The doors were still locked. Everything else was untouched.
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There was no logical explanation, none.
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I knew at that point it was not friendly and it didn't want me around.
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Because that was definitely directed just at me.
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I was afraid of going to sleep because I had to watch over those kids.
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And what if I wasn't able to see what was happening to them?
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I was sleeping on the daybed.
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Jamie was sleeping with me. I was afraid to put him in the bedroom.
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And Samantha slept in a little bassinet next to me.
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The level of fear built up more and more every night.
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I can remember waking up and hearing breathing.
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It was loud, and it was distinctive.
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I can't even describe the feeling of being as scared as I was.
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I saw somebody sitting on the bunk bed.
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I was just totally terrified.
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I looked up again, and he was gone.
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Every single shade in the house went up at the same time.
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You can't rationalize that.
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I didn't sleep the rest of the night, you know?
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I was just trembling all night. I remember that.
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It was important for me..
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Not to let the kids..
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See how frightened I was.
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I had to keep it away from him.
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I would try not to allow myself to be afraid.
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At least pretend like I wasn't.
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It is the most helpless feeling.
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There's something that's in the house.
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That actually was there before you came, so it's not your house.
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It's their territory, not yours.
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So you're the intruder. That's how I felt.
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I felt like I was the intruder.
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Listen, you can't go on like this.
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You got to get some help.
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My friend Susan said that she had a number
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that she had gotten that was a Parapsychologist.
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You know, I should call him and get some help.
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I want you to call him, okay?
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No way.
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But I said no because of what had happened
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the last time I allowed somebody into the house.
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I really think you need to call him.
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She gave me the number anyway and said, "here, call it when you're ready".
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And I put it into a drawer.
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Later on, I remember I was doing dishes.
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It was pretty late.
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My first reaction was, "I cut myself".
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But when I turned around.
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It was coming out of the cabinets.
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It was forming on the glass.
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It was all around me.
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It was infecting my kitchen.
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And I thought I got to do something.
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I called the Parapsychologist.
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I remember the night that the paranormal team arrived.
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My ex-husband happened to be visiting the kids at the time
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which was good because he could keep them occupied.
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She told me that she had found these people that investigated such happenings.
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You okay?
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I kind of thought, "why not?"
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This is perfect.
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These people will come in. They won't find anything.
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And we're done with it, you know? And I was ready to
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wipe my hands of it and say good-bye, good riddance.
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Hi. Come on in.
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The Parapsychologist himself came in first.
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- Jackie?
- Yes.
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After him came this whole herd of people carrying cameras.
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That was something I didn't expect. It was like a circus.
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Barry, where you gonna want the lights set up?
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As a Cameraman, I've been a professional Videographer for many years.
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Uh, I thought.. "Well, you know, it's one thing to go into a haunting"
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"and hear all of these stories but it's another"
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"thing if we could capture something on videotape".
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I think any Cameraman worth his salt would say the same thing.
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How's that? You think that's a good angle?
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I think that's good, yeah.
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They already had it pre-planned what they were going to do.
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They never informed me of it.
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They were going to document it.
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I'm sorry. I'm still a little confused as to..
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To what's going on.
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Just gonna do a quick interview and have you tell us some of the
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amazing stuff that you've been experiencing here in the house.
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I did not want it documented. I wanted it out of my house.
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I wanted it gone. I wanted..
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Normality.
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So, Jackie, why don't you tell us a little bit about what's going on?
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Jackie herself seemed scared.
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We wanted to find out what her experiences were in the house.
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You can feel a presence? You can sense a presence?
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Yeah.
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One of the paranormal team was very skeptical.
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You could tell by the look on his face.
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And Barry Conrad was just the opposite.
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Something you can't explain.
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Yeah, there's just..
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There's something wrong. There's something here all the time.
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All of a sudden, the light goes off.
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Right during the interview.
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Problem with the power?
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You know, they're just thinking maybe the electricity went out.
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Maybe there was a fuse or whatever.
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And I knew.. I knew exactly what it was.
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He was angry that these people were in the house, and I just knew that.
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Then the light goes back on.
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Okay.
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It's coming from up there.
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I told them about the noises I've heard in the attic.
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- From the attic?
- Yeah.
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So I remember asking my friend, who was a still photographer,
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if he might want to go up there and take a few photos.
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Sure. Why not? What else are we here for? Let's go.
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He was the one who was very skeptical.
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In fact, he whispered in my ear, he says, "it'll be a cool drink in hell"
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"before I ever believe that there is a ghost in this house".
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You got enough space up there?
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Oh, yeah, there's a lot of space.
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I was laying there just kind of listening. I was wide awake.
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I wasn't sleeping or anything like that.
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Nothing but spider webs.
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I'm getting goose bumps because I can recall that moment.
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I heard something whisper into my ear..
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So clearly.
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Tell them to get the hell out of here.
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Seconds after I heard this.
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I heard someone yell from the attic.
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I heard something whisper into my ear.
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So clearly..
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"Tell them to get the hell outta here".
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My friend comes bolting down.
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All of the color drained out of him.
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Something just grabbed the camera right out of my hand, man.
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Pulled it right out of my hand.
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You sure you didn't, like, just drop it or catch it on something?
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Something grabbed my camera.
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All of a sudden, all that skepticism that he had before was gone, erased.
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He was really, really scared.
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00:27:16,739 --> 00:27:19,852
But I think that his concern for his livelihood
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overcame his fear because this was, you know..
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This was how he made his living. He was a still photographer.
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00:27:24,212 --> 00:27:26,147
I got to get that camera, man.
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00:27:26,148 --> 00:27:28,725
It's a $2,000 camera. I've got to get it.
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I'll come with you. I'll be right behind you, okay?
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He decided to go back up into the attic to find his camera.
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I put up a 1,000-watt light.
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I wanted see every nook and cranny of the attic.
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You don't see anything?
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No, nothing yet.
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00:27:55,765 --> 00:27:59,665
I don't see the camera anywhere.
399
00:28:03,228 --> 00:28:06,543
I don't think I shot more than a minute.
400
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The camera completely neutralized.
401
00:28:08,552 --> 00:28:12,632
Can you change the battery on that?
402
00:28:12,728 --> 00:28:15,426
So they changed the battery. And it worked just fine downstairs.
403
00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:18,226
But they pulled it through the hole, and it wouldn't work at all again.
404
00:28:18,227 --> 00:28:20,201
I'm still not getting anything on here.
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00:28:20,202 --> 00:28:21,669
I thought, "well, how can this be?"
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- Is this the new battery?
- Yup.
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I got it.
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00:28:29,807 --> 00:28:31,441
- You found it?
- Yeah.
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00:28:31,442 --> 00:28:36,499
They finally did find the body of the camera on one corner of the attic.
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It was lying face down in a little crate.
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The lens had been removed.
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I got the lens here.
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00:28:45,856 --> 00:28:50,116
We found the lens behind the trapdoor.
414
00:28:53,037 --> 00:28:56,040
- So what do we do now?
- Well, we take things back to the lab.
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00:28:56,041 --> 00:28:57,901
We..
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00:29:01,758 --> 00:29:07,658
All of a sudden, it's like somebody is walking back and forth up above us.
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I knew I'd just been up there. My friend had just been up there.
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00:29:12,649 --> 00:29:17,749
And there was nobody up in that attic whatsoever.
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00:29:25,383 --> 00:29:26,812
Did you get that on tape?
420
00:29:26,813 --> 00:29:28,232
Yeah.
421
00:29:28,233 --> 00:29:31,644
We did one final interview with Jackie.
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00:29:31,645 --> 00:29:33,002
I got to go.
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00:29:33,003 --> 00:29:37,006
The whole thing was very frightening.
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00:29:37,007 --> 00:29:40,510
I remember telling my friend, "I think we better get out of here".
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00:29:40,511 --> 00:29:43,946
It was unbelievable to me that they were getting ready to go and walk out.
426
00:29:43,947 --> 00:29:45,715
So you're just gonna leave me here?
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00:29:45,716 --> 00:29:47,077
Sorry, lady.
428
00:29:47,078 --> 00:29:49,679
They were gonna get the proof that it was in the house,
429
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,515
and then they were gonna leave? They were gonna rile this up and leave?
430
00:29:53,516 --> 00:29:54,735
- Wait..
- Thank you very much.
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00:29:54,736 --> 00:29:57,007
We'll be back. Don't worry. There's nothing to worry about.
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00:29:57,008 --> 00:30:01,808
I started questioning why I even called them.
433
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:21,235
I got back to my apartment and started looking at the videotapes.
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00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:23,200
- Here.
- Hear it?
435
00:30:23,201 --> 00:30:25,075
Something's walking back and forth up there.
436
00:30:25,076 --> 00:30:27,397
It is walking, definitely.
437
00:30:27,398 --> 00:30:31,238
Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!
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00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:33,855
It was amazing.
439
00:30:33,856 --> 00:30:38,300
There was these footsteps coming from above us.
440
00:30:38,301 --> 00:30:44,201
I felt like these were part and parcel to whatever this haunting was.
441
00:30:45,870 --> 00:30:50,145
I was extremely frightened by what I had witnessed.
442
00:30:50,146 --> 00:30:53,986
Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!
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00:30:54,051 --> 00:30:56,427
Well, I didn't think it was anything you needed to know.
444
00:30:56,428 --> 00:31:00,253
Oh, I'm beginning to understand what's going on here.
445
00:31:00,254 --> 00:31:02,597
The very last night I stayed at that house.
446
00:31:02,598 --> 00:31:06,939
I was on the couch watching TV, and I had both of the kids right next to me.
447
00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:08,743
I haven't even had a chance to take a shower,
448
00:31:08,744 --> 00:31:14,644
and some lawyer starts knocking on my door to serve me with divorce papers.
449
00:31:16,272 --> 00:31:18,635
There was noises coming from the bedroom, and it sounded
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as if something was in there playing with my kids' toys.
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00:31:30,754 --> 00:31:36,654
A beach ball comes out of the room as if somebody just threw it out.
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00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:43,940
I knew I wasn't gonna be going to sleep that night.
453
00:31:44,334 --> 00:31:46,911
I closed my eyes for a minute, not to go to sleep,
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but just to rest them for a second.
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00:32:03,999 --> 00:32:06,355
Something was holding me down.
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00:32:06,356 --> 00:32:09,296
I couldn't breathe.
457
00:32:10,027 --> 00:32:14,167
I tried to get up, but I couldn't.
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00:32:14,192 --> 00:32:17,672
I thought I was gonna die.
459
00:32:27,038 --> 00:32:30,698
Something was holding me down.
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00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:32,943
I couldn't breathe.
461
00:32:32,944 --> 00:32:36,881
I tried to get up, but I couldn't.
462
00:32:36,882 --> 00:32:41,502
I began to think, "oh, my gosh, the kids".
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00:32:45,758 --> 00:32:48,458
Then it let go.
464
00:32:58,834 --> 00:33:00,934
Jackie..
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00:33:04,390 --> 00:33:06,673
I had a baseball bat.
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00:33:06,674 --> 00:33:08,908
Something snapped inside of me.
467
00:33:08,909 --> 00:33:11,501
I just took the bat and just said, "I had it".
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00:33:11,502 --> 00:33:14,142
"I had enough".
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00:33:26,734 --> 00:33:29,599
I was expecting him to appear..
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Just like every turn I made.
471
00:33:51,044 --> 00:33:55,866
I realized that that old man's domain was the attic.
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00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:58,807
That was his space.
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00:34:00,143 --> 00:34:03,608
I wanted to fight for the house that I was paying to rent.
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00:34:03,609 --> 00:34:08,722
I wanted it to be me and the kids and nothing else in that house.
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00:34:08,723 --> 00:34:12,503
That's what drove me up there.
476
00:34:12,662 --> 00:34:15,146
Even though it wasn't a very smart thing to do,
477
00:34:15,147 --> 00:34:19,467
I was just fighting for what was mine.
478
00:34:21,152 --> 00:34:26,732
That was the first time I've ever went into the attic.
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00:34:41,867 --> 00:34:43,943
Come on and show yourself!
480
00:34:43,944 --> 00:34:45,812
I was confronting it and challenging it.
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00:34:45,813 --> 00:34:46,913
Come on.
482
00:34:46,914 --> 00:34:50,571
At least give me a fight instead of suffocating me when I'm sleeping.
483
00:34:50,572 --> 00:34:53,152
Where are you?
484
00:34:56,071 --> 00:34:58,231
Come on.
485
00:35:10,359 --> 00:35:13,419
I fell to the floor.
486
00:35:18,002 --> 00:35:23,582
I just grabbed the kids and just ran out of the house.
487
00:35:25,149 --> 00:35:27,387
I was worried I wasn't being able to protect my kids.
488
00:35:27,388 --> 00:35:33,288
I was worried that something would happen, to me and they would find me dead..
489
00:35:34,898 --> 00:35:38,738
Or that I would find them dead.
490
00:35:46,299 --> 00:35:48,328
We're not here. Leave a message.
491
00:35:48,329 --> 00:35:50,833
Barry, it's Jackie.
492
00:35:50,834 --> 00:35:51,845
Jackie?
493
00:35:51,846 --> 00:35:54,641
Suddenly Jackie called my answering machine.
494
00:35:54,642 --> 00:35:55,916
Jackie, is that you?
495
00:35:55,917 --> 00:35:57,565
Please, you got to come help me.
496
00:35:57,566 --> 00:35:59,286
Absolutely terrified out of her mind.
497
00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:01,523
Please, you have to come now. There's something in the house.
498
00:36:01,524 --> 00:36:05,825
As she was talking, she suddenly cried out, and she dropped the phone.
499
00:36:05,826 --> 00:36:09,129
And all of a sudden, the line is cut.
500
00:36:09,130 --> 00:36:10,132
Jackie?
501
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:11,737
We're like, "Jackie? "You know? "Are you there, Jackie?"
502
00:36:11,738 --> 00:36:15,312
You know? We didn't know what happened. Because she was no longer on the line.
503
00:36:15,313 --> 00:36:21,213
We were so concerned about her we
decided that we better go down and check it out.
504
00:36:24,643 --> 00:36:28,646
I had thought they were gonna take me out of the house, so I was ready to leave.
505
00:36:28,647 --> 00:36:30,216
Please, there's.. No, there's something in the house.
506
00:36:30,217 --> 00:36:32,118
- Please, we need to go now.
- Okay, just calm down.
507
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,611
They bring out all their equipment, their video cameras and everything,
508
00:36:34,612 --> 00:36:40,512
and they go into the house, and I'm thinking, "what are they doing?"
509
00:36:40,708 --> 00:36:42,812
We were all curious. We wanted to know whether
510
00:36:42,813 --> 00:36:47,733
the entity really was in the house that night.
511
00:36:49,517 --> 00:36:54,408
To me, it was my life, and to them, it was making a movie.
512
00:36:54,409 --> 00:36:56,710
I don't hear a thing.
513
00:36:56,711 --> 00:37:01,037
When we walked into the house, there was not a sign of anything.
514
00:37:01,038 --> 00:37:03,082
You want to go upstairs and check out the attic?
515
00:37:03,083 --> 00:37:04,712
The attic?
516
00:37:04,713 --> 00:37:06,633
Yeah.
517
00:37:07,668 --> 00:37:09,296
The same photographer who was..
518
00:37:09,297 --> 00:37:11,353
Already had an incident up in the attic,
519
00:37:11,354 --> 00:37:15,114
he decides to go up again into the attic.
520
00:37:15,115 --> 00:37:16,808
The photographer had a flashlight.
521
00:37:16,809 --> 00:37:21,729
Barry handed me just a small instamatic camera.
522
00:37:23,548 --> 00:37:25,534
And I think when they first went up there, they didn't really
523
00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:31,415
expect anything to happen because it was so quiet downstairs.
524
00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:39,183
It was pitch-black up there.
525
00:37:46,838 --> 00:37:51,431
There was absolutely nothing there. There was nothing in this attic.
526
00:37:51,432 --> 00:37:54,852
What's going on up there?
527
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:17,415
There was this snapping sound, like somebody snapped their fingers.
528
00:38:17,416 --> 00:38:20,896
Just like that three times.
529
00:38:21,169 --> 00:38:24,650
The sensation of being watched overcame me.
530
00:38:24,651 --> 00:38:27,068
It was really getting stronger.
531
00:38:27,069 --> 00:38:28,751
Something was gonna happen. I knew it.
532
00:38:28,752 --> 00:38:30,700
You need to come down. They need to come down right now.
533
00:38:30,701 --> 00:38:34,492
I start to panic, and I yell, "get down, please!"
534
00:38:34,493 --> 00:38:37,207
- I think you guys better come down.
- They just started yelling and hollering..
535
00:38:37,208 --> 00:38:39,350
"Get down here, You gotta get down here! " There was just pandemonium.
536
00:38:39,351 --> 00:38:40,585
You guys need to get down here.
537
00:38:40,586 --> 00:38:43,137
"You got to come down. Come down now. There's something going on".
538
00:38:43,138 --> 00:38:44,905
- Guys, you got to come down.
- Please come down.
539
00:38:44,906 --> 00:38:47,499
The photographer was literally right behind me,
540
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,022
and I was looking down into the opening.
541
00:38:49,023 --> 00:38:51,262
- What's going on?
- Seriously, guys, I'm not joking.
542
00:38:51,263 --> 00:38:55,855
- Get down here right away.
- We need to get out of here, please?
543
00:38:55,856 --> 00:39:00,476
It was like he was lifted through the air.
544
00:39:06,216 --> 00:39:08,856
Guys, you okay?
545
00:39:08,899 --> 00:39:12,319
What's going on up there?
546
00:39:13,913 --> 00:39:16,793
Are you all right?
547
00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:21,010
There was no response from him.
548
00:39:21,011 --> 00:39:25,214
He was 10, 15 feet off into the distance.
549
00:39:25,215 --> 00:39:28,068
I could tell he was not standing upright.
550
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:33,523
Very odd, you know? It's like, "why would he be like that?"
551
00:39:33,524 --> 00:39:39,424
The only source of light I had was this little flash on this little camera.
552
00:39:40,724 --> 00:39:42,489
He was completely off the floor of the attic.
553
00:39:42,490 --> 00:39:44,159
His head was off on the opposite angle,
554
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,320
because he was up against the inside of the roof.
555
00:39:49,417 --> 00:39:51,449
There was this completely blank expression on his face.
556
00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:56,910
Like.. Like his eyes were open, but he was not there.
557
00:39:56,980 --> 00:40:02,333
- Very vaguely, he said..
- There's something on my neck.
558
00:40:02,334 --> 00:40:05,034
It was a noose.
559
00:40:05,488 --> 00:40:07,120
There was no way he could've done this himself.
560
00:40:07,121 --> 00:40:09,000
I mean, there wasn't enough time. It had happened just like that.
561
00:40:09,001 --> 00:40:12,841
Guys, what's going on up there?
562
00:40:16,626 --> 00:40:19,849
He's absolutely terrified.
563
00:40:19,850 --> 00:40:21,148
What happened?
564
00:40:21,149 --> 00:40:23,633
He's still got the thing around his neck,
565
00:40:23,634 --> 00:40:28,314
and his neck is all swollen, and it's red.
566
00:40:28,574 --> 00:40:30,140
He just had no reaction any of this happened to him.
567
00:40:30,141 --> 00:40:32,049
It was like it's something that he didn't even know happened.
568
00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:34,304
It was like blank in his memory.
569
00:40:34,305 --> 00:40:36,270
We need to get out of here now. We need to go, please!
570
00:40:36,271 --> 00:40:38,715
At that point, I just wanted to get out of the house right then, right there.
571
00:40:38,716 --> 00:40:42,590
We have to go! Can you carry him, please?
572
00:40:42,591 --> 00:40:47,571
That was the last night I spent in that house.
573
00:40:57,775 --> 00:40:59,633
To this day..
574
00:40:59,634 --> 00:41:04,379
I am mystified by what happened in the house.
575
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:10,280
I really truly believe we were dealing with some kind of entity.
576
00:41:11,274 --> 00:41:14,354
I never thought I would ever experience something like this, no.
577
00:41:14,355 --> 00:41:18,195
Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!
578
00:41:21,985 --> 00:41:25,897
I'm not gonna tell you that I believe in ghosts now.
579
00:41:25,898 --> 00:41:31,798
But I most definitely have opened my mind to the possibility.
580
00:41:49,557 --> 00:41:50,557
- The light.
- The light.
581
00:41:50,558 --> 00:41:52,838
The light.
582
00:41:52,846 --> 00:41:56,566
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100:00:05,008 --> 00:00:09,845I never experienced anything paranormal before I moved into that house.200:00:09,846 --> 00:00:11,080What is that?300:00:11,081 --> 00:00:13,781I have no idea.400:00:14,417 --> 00:00:15,651Hear it?500:00:15,652 --> 00:00:17,185It's walking back and forth up there.600:00:17,186 --> 00:00:19,343Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!700:00:19,344 --> 00:00:21,443We didn't expect anything to happen.800:00:21,444 --> 00:00:23,946But this night was different.900:00:23,947 --> 00:00:25,364I'm getting goose bumps.1000:00:25,365 --> 00:00:28,725I can recall that moment.1100:00:29,853 --> 00:00:32,253He was lifted through the air.1200:00:32,254 --> 00:00:33,606What happened?1300:00:33,607 --> 00:00:36,307I was in shock.1400:00:36,410 --> 00:00:40,289I was worried they would find me dead.1500:00:40,290 --> 00:00:44,130Or that I would find them dead.1600:00:46,000 --> 00:00:52,074Advertise your product or brand herecontact www.OpenSubtitles.org today1700:01:07,874 --> 00:01:10,709I was 23 years old.1800:01:10,710 --> 00:01:13,879I had atwo-year-old son.1900:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,471And I was six or seven months pregnant with my daughter.2000:01:17,472 --> 00:01:19,117My husband and I were having problems,2100:01:19,118 --> 00:01:22,200and we just decided it was better for us and the kids,2200:01:22,201 --> 00:01:25,801if we just weren't together.2300:01:26,788 --> 00:01:28,477I was looking for a place to rent,2400:01:28,478 --> 00:01:30,964and I wasn't looking for anything in particular.2500:01:30,965 --> 00:01:32,563I just stumbled across that place.2600:01:32,564 --> 00:01:34,467- Apple?- I liked it right away.2700:01:34,468 --> 00:01:36,014Yeah.2800:01:36,015 --> 00:01:38,134It was a little bungalow. It was off the street.2900:01:38,135 --> 00:01:44,035It was private. It was the perfect place to start a new life.3000:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,668My ambitions were to finish school.3100:01:46,669 --> 00:01:50,721And to get a job that I could support my family with.3200:01:50,722 --> 00:01:52,620I was trying to get my degree,3300:01:52,621 --> 00:01:58,081so it was a lot of work at home, a lot of studying.3400:01:58,594 --> 00:02:00,761This clown is my husband.3500:02:00,762 --> 00:02:04,666- Husband?- Yeah, you know. Husband.3600:02:04,667 --> 00:02:09,061I had this picture in my mind. Everything was just gonna be perfect.3700:02:09,062 --> 00:02:14,962But after about a month or so, I started to hear odd sounds around the house.3800:02:27,457 --> 00:02:30,576It sounded like pebbles..3900:02:30,577 --> 00:02:34,206Like somebody dropped a handful pebbles.4000:02:34,207 --> 00:02:40,107From the top of the wall, and they just fell all the way to the bottom.4100:02:41,165 --> 00:02:44,139That is not a normal sound that a house makes.4200:02:44,140 --> 00:02:47,620It was just so distinctive.4300:02:49,328 --> 00:02:53,048Gave me a shiver up my spine.4400:03:04,036 --> 00:03:07,983Bit by bit, I began to realize that a lot of the activity was..4500:03:07,984 --> 00:03:11,044Coming from above me.4600:03:11,710 --> 00:03:14,101It happened every night.4700:03:14,102 --> 00:03:16,575A very particular strange sound.4800:03:16,576 --> 00:03:21,976Very high-pitched, almost to where it hurt your ears.4900:03:27,893 --> 00:03:32,753It seemed to be coming from up in the attic.5000:03:36,068 --> 00:03:40,156I noticed that the trap door was open.5100:03:40,157 --> 00:03:44,242I never would have opened that door.5200:03:44,243 --> 00:03:48,323I wanted to put the door on right.5300:04:01,018 --> 00:04:04,035I started to think that I was not alone.5400:04:04,036 --> 00:04:09,436That there was other things in that house besides me.5500:04:14,039 --> 00:04:16,559- Hey.- Hey.5600:04:16,608 --> 00:04:17,780You okay?5700:04:17,781 --> 00:04:22,941My close friends were staying more and more often.5800:04:24,612 --> 00:04:26,062Thanks.5900:04:26,063 --> 00:04:30,996I remember telling my friend, Susan, some of the things that happened.6000:04:30,997 --> 00:04:33,141So what's up?6100:04:33,142 --> 00:04:35,524She was a big support.6200:04:35,525 --> 00:04:40,865And they sound like they're coming from the ceiling.6300:04:41,233 --> 00:04:42,256What the hell was that?6400:04:42,257 --> 00:04:47,057We heard a big bang coming from the kitchen.6500:04:51,510 --> 00:04:54,366One of the pictures that was hanging on the wall,6600:04:54,367 --> 00:04:58,207was propped up against the sink.6700:04:59,151 --> 00:05:01,486The nails were also placed..6800:05:01,487 --> 00:05:06,152They were standing perfectly on their heads.6900:05:06,153 --> 00:05:09,088Nails can't come directly out of a hole,7000:05:09,089 --> 00:05:13,409come down, then end up on their heads.7100:05:16,235 --> 00:05:19,955Somebody or something did that.7200:05:25,544 --> 00:05:27,524Eight.7300:05:27,546 --> 00:05:28,712What's this one?7400:05:28,713 --> 00:05:31,015One of the neighbors was a young girl.7500:05:31,016 --> 00:05:33,901She was 16 years old. Her name was Tina.7600:05:33,902 --> 00:05:35,926She would come over and baby-sit for me.7700:05:35,927 --> 00:05:38,196Don't forget to change him before you put him down, okay?7800:05:38,197 --> 00:05:39,817Of course.7900:05:39,818 --> 00:05:43,369I thought that she was really, really nice, and she was a really dedicated Mom.8000:05:43,370 --> 00:05:44,938I'll see you soon, okay?8100:05:44,939 --> 00:05:45,989Hmm? Yeah?8200:05:45,990 --> 00:05:47,624- Go away.- Be good.8300:05:47,625 --> 00:05:49,383I enjoyed her company a lot. Like, we used to8400:05:49,384 --> 00:05:52,063talk and hang out even when I wasn't babysitting.8500:05:52,064 --> 00:05:56,444- Okay. Have a good night.- Okay. Bye.8600:05:59,321 --> 00:06:01,988Jackie was out, and she'd asked me to babysit.8700:06:01,989 --> 00:06:05,049And Jamie was asleep.8800:06:09,013 --> 00:06:11,715It was getting pretty late. I hadn't heard any noise for a while.8900:06:11,716 --> 00:06:17,616So I wanted to just make sure that he was okay and peek in on him.9000:06:32,958 --> 00:06:38,858The door just opened for me, and I thought, "well, that's weird".9100:06:40,144 --> 00:06:43,546Turned around and pushed the door closed behind me.9200:06:43,547 --> 00:06:46,967The latch caught the door.9300:06:47,379 --> 00:06:50,019Jamie was fine.9400:06:53,898 --> 00:06:57,602But then coming back, the same thing happened.9500:06:57,603 --> 00:07:00,554I thought, "maybe, you know, it's the house. It's"..9600:07:00,555 --> 00:07:06,455"The floor's not level, If you step here, it's gonna swing the door".9700:07:07,636 --> 00:07:09,898I would explain it away, explain it away.9800:07:09,899 --> 00:07:13,578But when it got to the point that I couldn't explain it away..9900:07:13,579 --> 00:07:16,819It was very frightening.10000:07:18,076 --> 00:07:19,434So how's school going?10100:07:19,435 --> 00:07:21,584It's all right.10200:07:21,585 --> 00:07:26,445We were just talking, making something to eat.10300:07:31,595 --> 00:07:34,331Hey, do you see this?10400:07:34,332 --> 00:07:38,772I looked up, and there was these lights.10500:07:39,938 --> 00:07:41,503What is that?10600:07:41,504 --> 00:07:44,204I have no idea.10700:07:46,945 --> 00:07:50,653It wasn't something that I've ever seen before.10800:07:50,654 --> 00:07:53,112It's not like a reflection off of anything.10900:07:53,113 --> 00:07:55,117They had, like, substance to them, you know?11000:07:55,118 --> 00:07:57,587I really don't have a good feeling about this.11100:07:57,588 --> 00:07:59,354- You know what?- Yeah, Jackie, let's just get out.11200:07:59,355 --> 00:08:02,192I did not want to be in her house.11300:08:02,193 --> 00:08:07,713I remember grabbing the camera and taking some pictures.11400:08:13,454 --> 00:08:14,861Oh, come on.11500:08:14,862 --> 00:08:17,079Then all of a sudden, the camera stopped working.11600:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,580What is wrong with this thing?11700:08:18,581 --> 00:08:19,969She handed me the camera, and she's like..11800:08:19,970 --> 00:08:21,527"See if you can get it to work". And I thought..11900:08:21,528 --> 00:08:24,841"Well, maybe if we're not trying to take pictures of the lights, it'll work".12000:08:24,842 --> 00:08:29,222So I pointed it out the kitchen window.12100:08:32,850 --> 00:08:35,920I saw a face in the viewfinder.12200:08:35,921 --> 00:08:38,355Of an emaciated old man..12300:08:38,356 --> 00:08:40,950Almost skeleton-like.12400:08:40,951 --> 00:08:43,531I had to run.12500:08:44,072 --> 00:08:46,343When that happened, there was no doubt in my12600:08:46,344 --> 00:08:51,084mind that there was something in that house.12700:09:16,232 --> 00:09:17,867What number is that?12800:09:17,868 --> 00:09:19,268- Nine.- Nine!12900:09:19,269 --> 00:09:21,318Yeah! You're hilarious.13000:09:21,319 --> 00:09:23,920- Seven.- Seven!13100:09:23,921 --> 00:09:24,921What is that one?13200:09:24,922 --> 00:09:27,607My ex-husband, Al, used to come and visit every now and then.13300:09:27,608 --> 00:09:30,060He was very, very good with Jamie.13400:09:30,061 --> 00:09:33,372I was telling Al some of the things that had been going on in the house.13500:09:33,373 --> 00:09:35,408I think there's something wrong with this house.13600:09:35,409 --> 00:09:38,769She felt that there was something very odd about the house.13700:09:38,770 --> 00:09:41,180She says, "I feel something here".13800:09:41,181 --> 00:09:44,656I get this cold feeling about it.13900:09:44,657 --> 00:09:47,556Truthfully, I thought that she was trying to draw attention.14000:09:47,557 --> 00:09:51,896And trying to draw my attention to the fact that she was alone.14100:09:51,897 --> 00:09:53,733You don't believe me, do you?14200:09:53,734 --> 00:09:58,091He didn't really believe me. He thought I was exaggerating.14300:09:58,092 --> 00:10:02,862Without a doubt, I had to assume that maybe something was wrong with her.14400:10:02,863 --> 00:10:06,754I thought, "how can I explain this to her where she'll feel that,"14500:10:06,755 --> 00:10:09,670"yeah, that's right, that's what it is, nothing to worry about?"14600:10:09,671 --> 00:10:11,220There has to be an explanation.14700:10:11,221 --> 00:10:13,521He was trying to talk to me, and saying, "you know,"14800:10:13,522 --> 00:10:16,776"why don't you just call it out, challenge it?"14900:10:16,777 --> 00:10:17,977What?15000:10:17,978 --> 00:10:19,513Call it out.15100:10:19,514 --> 00:10:23,414I said, "well, if you are here,"15200:10:23,452 --> 00:10:25,009"then let's see".15300:10:25,010 --> 00:10:26,793Show yourself.15400:10:26,794 --> 00:10:29,245I was just terrified. I'm like, "what the heck is he doing?"15500:10:29,246 --> 00:10:32,726"What's gonna happen next?"15600:10:38,843 --> 00:10:41,655Nothing did happen. It was just still.15700:10:41,656 --> 00:10:43,516See?15800:10:46,984 --> 00:10:50,404I'll see you when I can.15900:10:56,761 --> 00:10:59,881I go into the closet.16000:11:05,588 --> 00:11:09,088An entire wall was written Al.16100:11:09,089 --> 00:11:12,689"A" in blue and "L" in red.16200:11:13,709 --> 00:11:18,869And it was written hundreds and hundreds of times.16300:11:21,519 --> 00:11:25,719That was the answer to the challenge.16400:11:30,288 --> 00:11:33,659If I had the money, I would have moved out right away.16500:11:33,660 --> 00:11:38,430But there was no way I could have moved with the expense that it costs to move.16600:11:38,431 --> 00:11:41,132You need to to tell someone what's going on here.16700:11:41,133 --> 00:11:44,690Susan said, "well, maybe you should tell the landlords what's going on".16800:11:44,691 --> 00:11:47,039It's their house.16900:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,564I remember me saying, "I don't want to tell anybody"17000:11:49,565 --> 00:11:54,605"because I don't want them to think I'm nuts".17100:12:01,417 --> 00:12:04,892It was a few weeks later that I was out walking with Susan.17200:12:04,893 --> 00:12:07,789I was eight or nine months pregnant at the time.17300:12:07,790 --> 00:12:08,894- How are ya?- Susan.17400:12:08,895 --> 00:12:10,928The landlord and his wife were also coming back.17500:12:10,929 --> 00:12:13,766We bumped into each other on the sidewalk,17600:12:13,767 --> 00:12:17,431and then Sue just brought up the activity that was happening in the house.17700:12:17,432 --> 00:12:20,807Jackie's having some trouble at the house.17800:12:20,808 --> 00:12:23,309When the landlord acted concerned about it,17900:12:23,310 --> 00:12:26,463then I thought, "well, maybe he's not gonna think I'm crazy".18000:12:26,464 --> 00:12:29,854He asked if I had any objection to them..18100:12:29,855 --> 00:12:32,766Bringing in a priest.18200:12:32,767 --> 00:12:35,647So I said, "sure".18300:12:47,835 --> 00:12:53,390I just didn't have a good feeling towards them from the very beginning.18400:12:53,391 --> 00:12:56,247They both seemed to be very cynical about everything,18500:12:56,248 --> 00:12:59,668like they were judging me.18600:12:59,812 --> 00:13:01,932I see you like horror movies.18700:13:01,933 --> 00:13:05,745Uh, those ones are my ex-husband's.18800:13:05,746 --> 00:13:07,815Your ex-husband?18900:13:07,816 --> 00:13:09,736Yeah.19000:13:10,250 --> 00:13:12,177I had a aquarium.19100:13:12,178 --> 00:13:16,122On the bottom, there was a little ornament of a skeleton.19200:13:16,123 --> 00:13:19,754He said that I was bringing death into my house.19300:13:19,755 --> 00:13:21,260Uh, wait I'm sorry?19400:13:21,261 --> 00:13:22,809The skeleton.19500:13:22,810 --> 00:13:26,350That just struck me as odd.19600:13:26,830 --> 00:13:30,980I had a collection of dolls from different countries.19700:13:30,981 --> 00:13:36,381There was one that was a souvenir from the Caribbean.19800:13:37,721 --> 00:13:41,441He said it was a voodoo doll.19900:13:42,592 --> 00:13:46,328By that point, I was feeling very, very uncomfortable.20000:13:46,329 --> 00:13:51,630Seems to me like you are bringing most of this trouble on yourself.20100:13:51,631 --> 00:13:57,432Um, I'll be right back. I just have to go get my son, okay?20200:13:57,433 --> 00:13:59,147Jamie was screaming.20300:13:59,148 --> 00:14:02,214They said my son wasn't acting normal.20400:14:02,215 --> 00:14:04,515And that he was possessed by the devil.20500:14:04,516 --> 00:14:06,066That's why he was crying.20600:14:06,067 --> 00:14:10,453- He doesn't appear to be acting normal.- He said, "can we bless your son?"20700:14:10,454 --> 00:14:12,766In the name of the Father, the Son..20800:14:12,767 --> 00:14:14,950Jamie just screamed. He didn't want this guy near him.20900:14:14,951 --> 00:14:17,744And the Holy Spirit..21000:14:17,745 --> 00:14:20,431Then he said, "don't you want to bless the unborn too?"21100:14:20,432 --> 00:14:22,700In the name of the Father, the Son..21200:14:22,701 --> 00:14:25,735I do believe in God, but everything they said as far as I21300:14:25,736 --> 00:14:31,376was concerned when they entered that house was ridiculous.21400:14:35,740 --> 00:14:37,240Fish!21500:14:37,241 --> 00:14:39,161Whee!21600:14:39,773 --> 00:14:45,673The following day was gonna be a longone for me because I had an assignment due.21700:14:55,424 --> 00:14:57,364Hi, Jackie Hernandez?21800:14:57,365 --> 00:14:59,437- Yes.- Hi, I'm from Social Services.21900:14:59,438 --> 00:15:01,978I'm wondering if you have a moment that I could come in and speak with you.22000:15:01,979 --> 00:15:04,538That just caught me totally off guard, like, you know,22100:15:04,539 --> 00:15:07,523what would social services be doing here?22200:15:07,524 --> 00:15:10,552- Come on in.- Thank you.22300:15:10,553 --> 00:15:12,695Sorry about the mess.22400:15:12,696 --> 00:15:15,026It was like probably the worst time ever that22500:15:15,027 --> 00:15:17,293they could have knocked on my door and come in.22600:15:17,294 --> 00:15:19,522I hadn't had a chance to clean it that morning.22700:15:19,523 --> 00:15:21,487Jamie had chocolate cupcake on his face.22800:15:21,488 --> 00:15:23,490He was still in his pajamas.22900:15:23,491 --> 00:15:26,900Can I ask why you're here?23000:15:26,901 --> 00:15:28,048We've had a report that..23100:15:28,049 --> 00:15:33,840She said they had a report from, the two priests that I had been..23200:15:33,841 --> 00:15:38,041On hallucinogenics and I was pregnant.23300:15:38,262 --> 00:15:39,672I'm sorry?23400:15:39,673 --> 00:15:43,084It was just so off the wall to me and crazy.23500:15:43,085 --> 00:15:48,485I had never taken any drugs. I wasn't even drinking.23600:15:49,420 --> 00:15:51,076I was worried for my kids.23700:15:51,077 --> 00:15:54,882It is possible to take your children, even if you are a perfect Mother.23800:15:54,883 --> 00:15:56,785That's everything I need for today.23900:15:56,786 --> 00:15:58,334- Okay.- Okay.24000:15:58,335 --> 00:16:01,599It just taught me the lesson things are better left unsaid.24100:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,360Because you never know what can happen if you tell people.24200:16:07,403 --> 00:16:12,863I wasn't going to say anything to anybody ever again.24300:16:15,228 --> 00:16:20,208Shortly after that, I had Samantha, my daughter.24400:16:21,296 --> 00:16:24,275I brought her home, and after everything that happened,24500:16:24,276 --> 00:16:30,176I really was hesitant about bringing her there, but I had no choice.24600:16:34,802 --> 00:16:37,257A couple of days later, I return from grocery shopping.24700:16:37,258 --> 00:16:40,738I had the bags in my arm.24800:16:49,702 --> 00:16:53,480It spelled, "get the hell out".24900:16:53,481 --> 00:16:56,556The doors were still locked. Everything else was untouched.25000:16:56,557 --> 00:17:00,660There was no logical explanation, none.25100:17:00,661 --> 00:17:05,599I knew at that point it was not friendly and it didn't want me around.25200:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,580Because that was definitely directed just at me.25300:17:18,030 --> 00:17:22,441I was afraid of going to sleep because I had to watch over those kids.25400:17:22,442 --> 00:17:27,311And what if I wasn't able to see what was happening to them?25500:17:27,312 --> 00:17:30,234I was sleeping on the daybed.25600:17:30,235 --> 00:17:33,082Jamie was sleeping with me. I was afraid to put him in the bedroom.25700:17:33,083 --> 00:17:38,363And Samantha slept in a little bassinet next to me.25800:17:42,318 --> 00:17:47,778The level of fear built up more and more every night.25900:17:52,304 --> 00:17:57,224I can remember waking up and hearing breathing.26000:18:01,437 --> 00:18:05,577It was loud, and it was distinctive.26100:18:21,496 --> 00:18:27,396I can't even describe the feeling of being as scared as I was.26200:18:36,915 --> 00:18:41,295I saw somebody sitting on the bunk bed.26300:18:56,306 --> 00:18:59,906I was just totally terrified.26400:19:01,274 --> 00:19:05,414I looked up again, and he was gone.26500:19:15,696 --> 00:19:21,456Every single shade in the house went up at the same time.26600:19:23,938 --> 00:19:27,418You can't rationalize that.26700:19:27,832 --> 00:19:29,767I didn't sleep the rest of the night, you know?26800:19:29,768 --> 00:19:34,808I was just trembling all night. I remember that.26900:19:44,485 --> 00:19:47,272It was important for me..27000:19:47,273 --> 00:19:50,393Not to let the kids..27100:19:51,448 --> 00:19:53,530See how frightened I was.27200:19:53,531 --> 00:19:57,431I had to keep it away from him.27300:19:58,403 --> 00:20:02,206I would try not to allow myself to be afraid.27400:20:02,207 --> 00:20:06,047At least pretend like I wasn't.27500:20:08,265 --> 00:20:10,934It is the most helpless feeling.27600:20:10,935 --> 00:20:14,745There's something that's in the house.27700:20:14,746 --> 00:20:19,000That actually was there before you came, so it's not your house.27800:20:19,001 --> 00:20:21,912It's their territory, not yours.27900:20:21,913 --> 00:20:24,274So you're the intruder. That's how I felt.28000:20:24,275 --> 00:20:28,115I felt like I was the intruder.28100:20:32,824 --> 00:20:36,527Listen, you can't go on like this.28200:20:36,528 --> 00:20:39,948You got to get some help.28300:20:40,156 --> 00:20:42,613My friend Susan said that she had a number28400:20:42,614 --> 00:20:45,498that she had gotten that was a Parapsychologist.28500:20:45,499 --> 00:20:47,566You know, I should call him and get some help.28600:20:47,567 --> 00:20:49,557I want you to call him, okay?28700:20:49,558 --> 00:20:50,890No way.28800:20:50,891 --> 00:20:53,013But I said no because of what had happened28900:20:53,014 --> 00:20:55,964the last time I allowed somebody into the house.29000:20:55,965 --> 00:20:58,983I really think you need to call him.29100:20:58,984 --> 00:21:02,430She gave me the number anyway and said, "here, call it when you're ready".29200:21:02,431 --> 00:21:06,031And I put it into a drawer.29300:21:09,702 --> 00:21:12,768Later on, I remember I was doing dishes.29400:21:12,769 --> 00:21:15,709It was pretty late.29500:21:22,790 --> 00:21:27,050My first reaction was, "I cut myself".29600:21:32,232 --> 00:21:35,299But when I turned around.29700:21:35,300 --> 00:21:38,508It was coming out of the cabinets.29800:21:38,509 --> 00:21:41,513It was forming on the glass.29900:21:41,514 --> 00:21:44,634It was all around me.30000:21:45,151 --> 00:21:48,494It was infecting my kitchen.30100:21:48,495 --> 00:21:52,695And I thought I got to do something.30200:21:55,552 --> 00:21:59,152I called the Parapsychologist.30300:22:12,567 --> 00:22:15,701I remember the night that the paranormal team arrived.30400:22:15,702 --> 00:22:19,102My ex-husband happened to be visiting the kids at the time30500:22:19,103 --> 00:22:24,323which was good because he could keep them occupied.30600:22:24,805 --> 00:22:30,705She told me that she had found these people that investigated such happenings.30700:22:30,815 --> 00:22:33,035You okay?30800:22:34,706 --> 00:22:37,080I kind of thought, "why not?"30900:22:37,081 --> 00:22:38,907This is perfect.31000:22:38,908 --> 00:22:42,420These people will come in. They won't find anything.31100:22:42,421 --> 00:22:44,399And we're done with it, you know? And I was ready to31200:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,800wipe my hands of it and say good-bye, good riddance.31300:22:50,061 --> 00:22:52,589Hi. Come on in.31400:22:52,590 --> 00:22:54,932The Parapsychologist himself came in first.31500:22:54,933 --> 00:22:56,853- Jackie?- Yes.31600:22:56,854 --> 00:23:02,191After him came this whole herd of people carrying cameras.31700:23:02,192 --> 00:23:04,511That was something I didn't expect. It was like a circus.31800:23:04,512 --> 00:23:08,078Barry, where you gonna want the lights set up?31900:23:08,079 --> 00:23:12,081As a Cameraman, I've been a professional Videographer for many years.32000:23:12,082 --> 00:23:15,840Uh, I thought.. "Well, you know, it's one thing to go into a haunting"32100:23:15,841 --> 00:23:18,208"and hear all of these stories but it's another"32200:23:18,209 --> 00:23:20,000"thing if we could capture something on videotape".32300:23:20,001 --> 00:23:22,954I think any Cameraman worth his salt would say the same thing.32400:23:22,955 --> 00:23:24,308How's that? You think that's a good angle?32500:23:24,309 --> 00:23:27,024I think that's good, yeah.32600:23:27,025 --> 00:23:29,679They already had it pre-planned what they were going to do.32700:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,680They never informed me of it.32800:23:31,681 --> 00:23:34,442They were going to document it.32900:23:34,443 --> 00:23:37,561I'm sorry. I'm still a little confused as to..33000:23:37,562 --> 00:23:39,413To what's going on.33100:23:39,414 --> 00:23:41,931Just gonna do a quick interview and have you tell us some of the33200:23:41,932 --> 00:23:45,321amazing stuff that you've been experiencing here in the house.33300:23:45,322 --> 00:23:48,087I did not want it documented. I wanted it out of my house.33400:23:48,088 --> 00:23:50,261I wanted it gone. I wanted..33500:23:50,262 --> 00:23:52,482Normality.33600:23:56,081 --> 00:24:01,981So, Jackie, why don't you tell us a little bit about what's going on?33700:24:02,095 --> 00:24:04,060Jackie herself seemed scared.33800:24:04,061 --> 00:24:07,545We wanted to find out what her experiences were in the house.33900:24:07,546 --> 00:24:09,881You can feel a presence? You can sense a presence?34000:24:09,882 --> 00:24:11,802Yeah.34100:24:14,603 --> 00:24:17,838One of the paranormal team was very skeptical.34200:24:17,839 --> 00:24:19,340You could tell by the look on his face.34300:24:19,341 --> 00:24:21,442And Barry Conrad was just the opposite.34400:24:21,443 --> 00:24:22,723Something you can't explain.34500:24:22,724 --> 00:24:25,470Yeah, there's just..34600:24:25,471 --> 00:24:31,371There's something wrong. There's something here all the time.34700:24:31,420 --> 00:24:34,122All of a sudden, the light goes off.34800:24:34,123 --> 00:24:37,543Right during the interview.34900:24:42,702 --> 00:24:44,031Problem with the power?35000:24:44,032 --> 00:24:46,064You know, they're just thinking maybe the electricity went out.35100:24:46,065 --> 00:24:47,882Maybe there was a fuse or whatever.35200:24:47,883 --> 00:24:52,383And I knew.. I knew exactly what it was.35300:24:54,310 --> 00:25:00,210He was angry that these people were in the house, and I just knew that.35400:25:01,350 --> 00:25:03,351Then the light goes back on.35500:25:03,352 --> 00:25:04,652Okay.35600:25:04,653 --> 00:25:05,733It's coming from up there.35700:25:05,734 --> 00:25:09,304I told them about the noises I've heard in the attic.35800:25:09,305 --> 00:25:11,526- From the attic?- Yeah.35900:25:11,527 --> 00:25:14,532So I remember asking my friend, who was a still photographer,36000:25:14,533 --> 00:25:19,125if he might want to go up there and take a few photos.36100:25:19,126 --> 00:25:24,526Sure. Why not? What else are we here for? Let's go.36200:25:26,782 --> 00:25:28,597He was the one who was very skeptical.36300:25:28,598 --> 00:25:31,363In fact, he whispered in my ear, he says, "it'll be a cool drink in hell"36400:25:31,364 --> 00:25:37,264"before I ever believe that there is a ghost in this house".36500:25:41,121 --> 00:25:43,469You got enough space up there?36600:25:43,470 --> 00:25:45,042Oh, yeah, there's a lot of space.36700:25:45,043 --> 00:25:47,888I was laying there just kind of listening. I was wide awake.36800:25:47,889 --> 00:25:51,012I wasn't sleeping or anything like that.36900:25:51,013 --> 00:25:54,253Nothing but spider webs.37000:26:00,409 --> 00:26:06,044I'm getting goose bumps because I can recall that moment.37100:26:06,045 --> 00:26:09,261I heard something whisper into my ear..37200:26:09,262 --> 00:26:11,602So clearly.37300:26:12,855 --> 00:26:17,235Tell them to get the hell out of here.37400:26:19,399 --> 00:26:22,464Seconds after I heard this.37500:26:22,465 --> 00:26:26,605I heard someone yell from the attic.37600:26:43,646 --> 00:26:46,875I heard something whisper into my ear.37700:26:46,876 --> 00:26:48,488So clearly..37800:26:48,489 --> 00:26:52,869"Tell them to get the hell outta here".37900:26:55,533 --> 00:26:58,082My friend comes bolting down.38000:26:58,083 --> 00:27:00,588All of the color drained out of him.38100:27:00,589 --> 00:27:03,024Something just grabbed the camera right out of my hand, man.38200:27:03,025 --> 00:27:04,350Pulled it right out of my hand.38300:27:04,351 --> 00:27:06,429You sure you didn't, like, just drop it or catch it on something?38400:27:06,430 --> 00:27:08,660Something grabbed my camera.38500:27:08,661 --> 00:27:14,435All of a sudden, all that skepticism that he had before was gone, erased.38600:27:14,436 --> 00:27:16,738He was really, really scared.38700:27:16,739 --> 00:27:19,852But I think that his concern for his livelihood38800:27:19,853 --> 00:27:21,847overcame his fear because this was, you know..38900:27:21,848 --> 00:27:24,211This was how he made his living. He was a still photographer.39000:27:24,212 --> 00:27:26,147I got to get that camera, man.39100:27:26,148 --> 00:27:28,725It's a $2,000 camera. I've got to get it.39200:27:28,726 --> 00:27:30,962I'll come with you. I'll be right behind you, okay?39300:27:30,963 --> 00:27:36,863He decided to go back up into the attic to find his camera.39400:27:44,967 --> 00:27:47,218I put up a 1,000-watt light.39500:27:47,219 --> 00:27:51,363I wanted see every nook and cranny of the attic.39600:27:51,364 --> 00:27:53,797You don't see anything?39700:27:53,798 --> 00:27:55,764No, nothing yet.39800:27:55,765 --> 00:27:59,665I don't see the camera anywhere.39900:28:03,228 --> 00:28:06,543I don't think I shot more than a minute.40000:28:06,544 --> 00:28:08,551The camera completely neutralized.40100:28:08,552 --> 00:28:12,632Can you change the battery on that?40200:28:12,728 --> 00:28:15,426So they changed the battery. And it worked just fine downstairs.40300:28:15,427 --> 00:28:18,226But they pulled it through the hole, and it wouldn't work at all again.40400:28:18,227 --> 00:28:20,201I'm still not getting anything on here.40500:28:20,202 --> 00:28:21,669I thought, "well, how can this be?"40600:28:21,670 --> 00:28:25,630- Is this the new battery?- Yup.40700:28:28,639 --> 00:28:29,806I got it.40800:28:29,807 --> 00:28:31,441- You found it?- Yeah.40900:28:31,442 --> 00:28:36,499They finally did find the body of the camera on one corner of the attic.41000:28:36,500 --> 00:28:40,282It was lying face down in a little crate.41100:28:40,283 --> 00:28:43,703The lens had been removed.41200:28:44,655 --> 00:28:45,855I got the lens here.41300:28:45,856 --> 00:28:50,116We found the lens behind the trapdoor.41400:28:53,037 --> 00:28:56,040- So what do we do now?- Well, we take things back to the lab.41500:28:56,041 --> 00:28:57,901We..41600:29:01,758 --> 00:29:07,658All of a sudden, it's like somebody is walking back and forth up above us.41700:29:09,649 --> 00:29:12,648I knew I'd just been up there. My friend had just been up there.41800:29:12,649 --> 00:29:17,749And there was nobody up in that attic whatsoever.41900:29:25,383 --> 00:29:26,812Did you get that on tape?42000:29:26,813 --> 00:29:28,232Yeah.42100:29:28,233 --> 00:29:31,644We did one final interview with Jackie.42200:29:31,645 --> 00:29:33,002I got to go.42300:29:33,003 --> 00:29:37,006The whole thing was very frightening.42400:29:37,007 --> 00:29:40,510I remember telling my friend, "I think we better get out of here".42500:29:40,511 --> 00:29:43,946It was unbelievable to me that they were getting ready to go and walk out.42600:29:43,947 --> 00:29:45,715So you're just gonna leave me here?42700:29:45,716 --> 00:29:47,077Sorry, lady.42800:29:47,078 --> 00:29:49,679They were gonna get the proof that it was in the house,42900:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,515and then they were gonna leave? They were gonna rile this up and leave?43000:29:53,516 --> 00:29:54,735- Wait..- Thank you very much.43100:29:54,736 --> 00:29:57,007We'll be back. Don't worry. There's nothing to worry about.43200:29:57,008 --> 00:30:01,808I started questioning why I even called them.43300:30:17,039 --> 00:30:21,235I got back to my apartment and started looking at the videotapes.43400:30:21,236 --> 00:30:23,200- Here.- Hear it?43500:30:23,201 --> 00:30:25,075Something's walking back and forth up there.43600:30:25,076 --> 00:30:27,397It is walking, definitely.43700:30:27,398 --> 00:30:31,238Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!43800:30:32,310 --> 00:30:33,855It was amazing.43900:30:33,856 --> 00:30:38,300There was these footsteps coming from above us.44000:30:38,301 --> 00:30:44,201I felt like these were part and parcel to whatever this haunting was.44100:30:45,870 --> 00:30:50,145I was extremely frightened by what I had witnessed.44200:30:50,146 --> 00:30:53,986Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!44300:30:54,051 --> 00:30:56,427Well, I didn't think it was anything you needed to know.44400:30:56,428 --> 00:31:00,253Oh, I'm beginning to understand what's going on here.44500:31:00,254 --> 00:31:02,597The very last night I stayed at that house.44600:31:02,598 --> 00:31:06,939I was on the couch watching TV, and I had both of the kids right next to me.44700:31:06,940 --> 00:31:08,743I haven't even had a chance to take a shower,44800:31:08,744 --> 00:31:14,644and some lawyer starts knocking on my door to serve me with divorce papers.44900:31:16,272 --> 00:31:18,635There was noises coming from the bedroom, and it sounded45000:31:18,636 --> 00:31:24,276as if something was in there playing with my kids' toys.45100:31:30,754 --> 00:31:36,654A beach ball comes out of the room as if somebody just threw it out.45200:31:38,540 --> 00:31:43,940I knew I wasn't gonna be going to sleep that night.45300:31:44,334 --> 00:31:46,911I closed my eyes for a minute, not to go to sleep,45400:31:46,912 --> 00:31:51,052but just to rest them for a second.45500:32:03,999 --> 00:32:06,355Something was holding me down.45600:32:06,356 --> 00:32:09,296I couldn't breathe.45700:32:10,027 --> 00:32:14,167I tried to get up, but I couldn't.45800:32:14,192 --> 00:32:17,672I thought I was gonna die.45900:32:27,038 --> 00:32:30,698Something was holding me down.46000:32:30,759 --> 00:32:32,943I couldn't breathe.46100:32:32,944 --> 00:32:36,881I tried to get up, but I couldn't.46200:32:36,882 --> 00:32:41,502I began to think, "oh, my gosh, the kids".46300:32:45,758 --> 00:32:48,458Then it let go.46400:32:58,834 --> 00:33:00,934Jackie..46500:33:04,390 --> 00:33:06,673I had a baseball bat.46600:33:06,674 --> 00:33:08,908Something snapped inside of me.46700:33:08,909 --> 00:33:11,501I just took the bat and just said, "I had it".46800:33:11,502 --> 00:33:14,142"I had enough".46900:33:26,734 --> 00:33:29,599I was expecting him to appear..47000:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,200Just like every turn I made.47100:33:51,044 --> 00:33:55,866I realized that that old man's domain was the attic.47200:33:55,867 --> 00:33:58,807That was his space.47300:34:00,143 --> 00:34:03,608I wanted to fight for the house that I was paying to rent.47400:34:03,609 --> 00:34:08,722I wanted it to be me and the kids and nothing else in that house.47500:34:08,723 --> 00:34:12,503That's what drove me up there.47600:34:12,662 --> 00:34:15,146Even though it wasn't a very smart thing to do,47700:34:15,147 --> 00:34:19,467I was just fighting for what was mine.47800:34:21,152 --> 00:34:26,732That was the first time I've ever went into the attic.47900:34:41,867 --> 00:34:43,943Come on and show yourself!48000:34:43,944 --> 00:34:45,812I was confronting it and challenging it.48100:34:45,813 --> 00:34:46,913Come on.48200:34:46,914 --> 00:34:50,571At least give me a fight instead of suffocating me when I'm sleeping.48300:34:50,572 --> 00:34:53,152Where are you?48400:34:56,071 --> 00:34:58,231Come on.48500:35:10,359 --> 00:35:13,419I fell to the floor.48600:35:18,002 --> 00:35:23,582I just grabbed the kids and just ran out of the house.48700:35:25,149 --> 00:35:27,387I was worried I wasn't being able to protect my kids.48800:35:27,388 --> 00:35:33,288I was worried that something would happen, to me and they would find me dead..48900:35:34,898 --> 00:35:38,738Or that I would find them dead.49000:35:46,299 --> 00:35:48,328We're not here. Leave a message.49100:35:48,329 --> 00:35:50,833Barry, it's Jackie.49200:35:50,834 --> 00:35:51,845Jackie?49300:35:51,846 --> 00:35:54,641Suddenly Jackie called my answering machine.49400:35:54,642 --> 00:35:55,916Jackie, is that you?49500:35:55,917 --> 00:35:57,565Please, you got to come help me.49600:35:57,566 --> 00:35:59,286Absolutely terrified out of her mind.49700:35:59,287 --> 00:36:01,523Please, you have to come now. There's something in the house.49800:36:01,524 --> 00:36:05,825As she was talking, she suddenly cried out, and she dropped the phone.49900:36:05,826 --> 00:36:09,129And all of a sudden, the line is cut.50000:36:09,130 --> 00:36:10,132Jackie?50100:36:10,133 --> 00:36:11,737We're like, "Jackie? "You know? "Are you there, Jackie?"50200:36:11,738 --> 00:36:15,312You know? We didn't know what happened. Because she was no longer on the line.50300:36:15,313 --> 00:36:21,213We were so concerned about her wedecided that we better go down and check it out.50400:36:24,643 --> 00:36:28,646I had thought they were gonna take me out of the house, so I was ready to leave.50500:36:28,647 --> 00:36:30,216Please, there's.. No, there's something in the house.50600:36:30,217 --> 00:36:32,118- Please, we need to go now.- Okay, just calm down.50700:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,611They bring out all their equipment, their video cameras and everything,50800:36:34,612 --> 00:36:40,512and they go into the house, and I'm thinking, "what are they doing?"50900:36:40,708 --> 00:36:42,812We were all curious. We wanted to know whether51000:36:42,813 --> 00:36:47,733the entity really was in the house that night.51100:36:49,517 --> 00:36:54,408To me, it was my life, and to them, it was making a movie.51200:36:54,409 --> 00:36:56,710I don't hear a thing.51300:36:56,711 --> 00:37:01,037When we walked into the house, there was not a sign of anything.51400:37:01,038 --> 00:37:03,082You want to go upstairs and check out the attic?51500:37:03,083 --> 00:37:04,712The attic?51600:37:04,713 --> 00:37:06,633Yeah.51700:37:07,668 --> 00:37:09,296The same photographer who was..51800:37:09,297 --> 00:37:11,353Already had an incident up in the attic,51900:37:11,354 --> 00:37:15,114he decides to go up again into the attic.52000:37:15,115 --> 00:37:16,808The photographer had a flashlight.52100:37:16,809 --> 00:37:21,729Barry handed me just a small instamatic camera.52200:37:23,548 --> 00:37:25,534And I think when they first went up there, they didn't really52300:37:25,535 --> 00:37:31,415expect anything to happen because it was so quiet downstairs.52400:37:35,583 --> 00:37:39,183It was pitch-black up there.52500:37:46,838 --> 00:37:51,431There was absolutely nothing there. There was nothing in this attic.52600:37:51,432 --> 00:37:54,852What's going on up there?52700:38:14,079 --> 00:38:17,415There was this snapping sound, like somebody snapped their fingers.52800:38:17,416 --> 00:38:20,896Just like that three times.52900:38:21,169 --> 00:38:24,650The sensation of being watched overcame me.53000:38:24,651 --> 00:38:27,068It was really getting stronger.53100:38:27,069 --> 00:38:28,751Something was gonna happen. I knew it.53200:38:28,752 --> 00:38:30,700You need to come down. They need to come down right now.53300:38:30,701 --> 00:38:34,492I start to panic, and I yell, "get down, please!"53400:38:34,493 --> 00:38:37,207- I think you guys better come down.- They just started yelling and hollering..53500:38:37,208 --> 00:38:39,350"Get down here, You gotta get down here! " There was just pandemonium.53600:38:39,351 --> 00:38:40,585You guys need to get down here.53700:38:40,586 --> 00:38:43,137"You got to come down. Come down now. There's something going on".53800:38:43,138 --> 00:38:44,905- Guys, you got to come down.- Please come down.53900:38:44,906 --> 00:38:47,499The photographer was literally right behind me,54000:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,022and I was looking down into the opening.54100:38:49,023 --> 00:38:51,262- What's going on?- Seriously, guys, I'm not joking.54200:38:51,263 --> 00:38:55,855- Get down here right away.- We need to get out of here, please?54300:38:55,856 --> 00:39:00,476It was like he was lifted through the air.54400:39:06,216 --> 00:39:08,856Guys, you okay?54500:39:08,899 --> 00:39:12,319What's going on up there?54600:39:13,913 --> 00:39:16,793Are you all right?54700:39:17,230 --> 00:39:21,010There was no response from him.54800:39:21,011 --> 00:39:25,214He was 10, 15 feet off into the distance.54900:39:25,215 --> 00:39:28,068I could tell he was not standing upright.55000:39:28,069 --> 00:39:33,523Very odd, you know? It's like, "why would he be like that?"55100:39:33,524 --> 00:39:39,424The only source of light I had was this little flash on this little camera.55200:39:40,724 --> 00:39:42,489He was completely off the floor of the attic.55300:39:42,490 --> 00:39:44,159His head was off on the opposite angle,55400:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,320because he was up against the inside of the roof.55500:39:49,417 --> 00:39:51,449There was this completely blank expression on his face.55600:39:51,450 --> 00:39:56,910Like.. Like his eyes were open, but he was not there.55700:39:56,980 --> 00:40:02,333- Very vaguely, he said..- There's something on my neck.55800:40:02,334 --> 00:40:05,034It was a noose.55900:40:05,488 --> 00:40:07,120There was no way he could've done this himself.56000:40:07,121 --> 00:40:09,000I mean, there wasn't enough time. It had happened just like that.56100:40:09,001 --> 00:40:12,841Guys, what's going on up there?56200:40:16,626 --> 00:40:19,849He's absolutely terrified.56300:40:19,850 --> 00:40:21,148What happened?56400:40:21,149 --> 00:40:23,633He's still got the thing around his neck,56500:40:23,634 --> 00:40:28,314and his neck is all swollen, and it's red.56600:40:28,574 --> 00:40:30,140He just had no reaction any of this happened to him.56700:40:30,141 --> 00:40:32,049It was like it's something that he didn't even know happened.56800:40:32,050 --> 00:40:34,304It was like blank in his memory.56900:40:34,305 --> 00:40:36,270We need to get out of here now. We need to go, please!57000:40:36,271 --> 00:40:38,715At that point, I just wanted to get out of the house right then, right there.57100:40:38,716 --> 00:40:42,590We have to go! Can you carry him, please?57200:40:42,591 --> 00:40:47,571That was the last night I spent in that house.57300:40:57,775 --> 00:40:59,633To this day..57400:40:59,634 --> 00:41:04,379I am mystified by what happened in the house.57500:41:04,380 --> 00:41:10,280I really truly believe we were dealing with some kind of entity.57600:41:11,274 --> 00:41:14,354I never thought I would ever experience something like this, no.57700:41:14,355 --> 00:41:18,195Quiet, everyone. Shh, shh! Quiet!57800:41:21,985 --> 00:41:25,897I'm not gonna tell you that I believe in ghosts now.57900:41:25,898 --> 00:41:31,798But I most definitely have opened my mind to the possibility.58000:41:49,557 --> 00:41:50,557- The light.- The light.58100:41:50,558 --> 00:41:52,838The light.58200:41:52,846 --> 00:41:56,566Subs created by: David Coleman.58300:41:57,305 --> 00:42:03,864Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org86677
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