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[Vinette] Obesity is an epidemic
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happening right here in the UK right now.
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Honestly, the first thing
I'd say is that I’m a big girl.
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How my friends would describe me
would be large, fat probably.
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I don’t like to use the word fat.
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But at the end of the day,
that is what I have inside me.
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I have a large amount of extra fat.
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[Vinette] We all know what fatlooks like on the outside.
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[Chanel] I think of cellulite,
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rolls, big thighs,
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big arms.
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If you’re Kim Kardashian,
you can have a really fat arse.
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I’ve got a fat stomach,
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she’s got a fat arse.
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[Vinette] But what if we could seewhat fat looks like from the inside?
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Do we have any idea of the damage obesity is doing under our skin?
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When you say to somebody,
well, it is affecting your health,
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you know, show me, I can’t see inside,
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I can’t see what is happening inside me.
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[Vinette] BBC3 has secured the firsttelevised access to a full post-mortem
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on an obese person whose body was donated to medical science.
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This summer, our pathology team assembled
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to reveal, from the inside,
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the dangers of us all getting too fat.
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Post-mortems are tightly controlled
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and access to them is strictly limited
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to protect the privacy and dignity of the deceased.
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Filming is not usually allowed.
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But for this post-mortem we have been allowed in
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to help understand a problem
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that costs the nation billions and ruins so many lives. Obesity.
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Carla Valentine and Dr Mike Osborn
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are the specialist team responsible for carrying out the post-mortem.
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Carla is an AnatomicalPathology Technologist
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and Technical Curatorof the Pathology Museum
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at London’s Queen Mary University.
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For this post-mortem,
I will be carrying out the evisceration,
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which means removing all of the organs.
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Being part of a filmed post-mortemis a very unique opportunity.
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Death terrifies some people,
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but what it also does is it
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eventually gives you a real sense
of the fragility of life.
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The topic of obesity is a huge problem,
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and it’s something that I get
to see quite a lot,
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but it’s not something
I get to study in depth.
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[Vinette] Mike isa Consultant Pathologist
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and Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists.
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He’s been working with death and disease for over 20 years.
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Obesity is very much there,
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it's seen, but I think it’s
very, very poorly understood.
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It seemed that making this filmwould be a way of exploring that
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and allowing a broader public
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to learn about the problems
that are associated with obesity.
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[Vinette] Carla and Mike have performedthousands of post-mortems,
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but always behind closed doors.
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Today, we’ll witness what really happens in an autopsy
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and discover what the body of our donor
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can tell us about the creeping effects of obesity over time.
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We don’t know this woman's name,
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but we do know a few details about her.
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She was in her early 60s.
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5'5". Almost 17 stone.
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And, just like a quarter of people in the UK, clinically obese.
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But where did she come from?
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And how did she end up here
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on a post-mortem table in London?
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Long Beach, on the West Coastof the United States.Glamorous, sunny, carefree California.
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But away from the beach,
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on an anonymous industrial estateon the outskirts of the city,
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is where our donor began her journeyto the post-mortem table.
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This is a place where peoplewho donate their body
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to essential medical scienceare brought when they die.
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Up to 20 donated bodies, or cadavers,
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a day come through these doors
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destined for thousands of medical researchprojects all over the world.
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[Randall] My name is Randall Delgado.
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I’m 29. My main role now
would be in charge of distribution.
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Some days, you know, we have an order
for cadavers going to Lebanon
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and so then we have to start checkingon them... How are they looking?
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Are they firm?Is there mould growing on them?
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You gotta be a certain breed of person
to be able to do this.
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At first, I’d be like, "Ooh,"
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but eventually you get used to it.
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I’m Kelsy, I’m 32
and I live in Costa Mesa, California.
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We perform a procurementon each donor that comes in,
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which entails us dissecting
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different specimens from each donor.
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We get to dissect the brain,take certain parts of the brain,
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internal organs, or taking
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veins and arteries,
different parts of the eye...
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The job itself can still be pretty taboo.
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I mean, even when I first came here,
I wasn’t exactly sure what they did.
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I knew they recovered tissue,
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but I didn’t know like
to the extreme of like
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really recovering almost everything.
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[Vinette] Our donor was processed here, in preparation for her final trip.
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Her left arm was removed for cremation,
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and its ashes returned to herfamily in California.
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The rest of her body was frozen,
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placed in a body bag,
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boxed and labelled for transportation to London.
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From here, she made her last car journey
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through the streets of California.
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She was loaded into the hold of a plane
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and carried 5,000 miles from her home.
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And finally she arrived in London.
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Her body remained in a cool chamber for ten days
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to allow it to thaw completely
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before it was brought to the post-mortem table.
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The first stage of every post-mortem,
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before any cut is made to the flesh,
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is an external examination of the body.
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The donor’s ID number is confirmed against her medical record,
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which details the cause of her death,
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heart disease,
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and that she’d only had minor surgeryand drank minimal alcohol.
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But what will her body go on to reveal about the way that she died?
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[Michael] This lady has diedof heart disease,
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which is one of the things that is
associated with obesity.
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And interestingly already in this lady,
we’ve got signs of heart failure,
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because if I press here,
particularly on this side,
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you can see this dimpling there
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and that’s because there’s you’ve
got too much fluid,
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and that’s the side effect
of heart failure.
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[Vinette] The other obvious externaldamage to our donor
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are the blisters on her skin.
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They are one of the earliest signs of her body decomposing after death
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and they're particularly noticeable on larger bodies.
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But they're not what Mike and Carla are focusing on.
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The most important thing about this lady
is that the obesity
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that she’s got is centred on her abdomen.
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So this lady is carrying a lot of weight
around her tummy,
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that's associated with more
of the complications
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than if somebody weighs the same,
but they carry their weight
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around the bottom and around the thighs.
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So that’s less associated
with complications,
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that’s more associated with complications.
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So we can see the distribution of the fats
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from the external exam,
but once we actually get inside,
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we’ll see more of how that has affected
the inside of her body,
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and her internal organs as well.
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[Michael] When we open this lady,
there may be other findings
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that are less easy to diagnose
before somebody has died,
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that won’t have killed her,
but are examples of problems
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that can get worse and lead to illness
and death in other people.
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So we may find some of those, we may not.
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[Vinette] To uncover if there are deadly medical truths
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lying beneath the skin,Carla must first cut open the body.
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The incision is a large and deepsingle vertical cut,
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beginning at the super sternal notchat the base of the neck
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and ending at the top of the pubis.
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It’s a skill that requires both greatprecision and intense concentration
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especially performed on someonewith so much fat.
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[Carla] So what I can feel
at the moment is an
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awful lot of yellow, very sort of greasy,
fatty tissue,
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which is quite a thick layer
in a body this size.
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I'm reflecting the skin back
from the rib cage here,
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and what that means is I am just kind of
loosening it away with the muscle
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to give me a bit of room to
manoeuvre within the body.
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What we seem to have here
is a breast implant.
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This is an incidental find.
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Sometimes when we do post-mortems,
it’s not just about
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what we’re expecting to find,
it's incidental.
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There is a very large amount of fat here.
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And the reason it makes it so difficult
is it actually is greasy,
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it feels very much like butter.
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So what I’m doing here is just
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trying to make sure that my knife
doesn’t slip too much on it.
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Mike, do you want to come
and take a look at this?
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So we can immediately see the amount,
the thickness of fat that is here.
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There is a large amount
on the anterior chest wall,
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the front of the chest,
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but there’s also a very large amount
around the abdomen.
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The abdominal fat, that is
the most dangerous associated
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with the problems of obesity.
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There’s quite a lot of fat
around the organs.
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There’s fat around in the omentum.
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It would appear that this lady is carrying
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much of her weight in the abdominal fat,
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and possibly around organs as well,
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so there’s lots of changes which
I think we’ll get a better view of
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when we’ve opened the rest of the body.
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Everybody knows what obesity lookslike from the outside,
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but unless you do a job like ours,
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most people don’t see what obesitylooks like inside.
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I have done thousands of post-mortems.
It is always a fascinating procedure
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even if it is a case where you have seen
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lots and lots of similar cases
in the past,
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that particular case will be individual
and you will certainly learn from that.
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[Vinette] We'll never know exactly whyour donor became so overweight.
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The reasons for obesity are multi-layered and complicated,
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a mixture of lifestyle and environment,
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biology and psychology.
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But now that overweight is the newnormal weight in the UK,
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there is a whole new young generationliving with the consequences of obesity.
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Fat, you know, fatty, fat bastard,
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you know, whatever it might be.
I remember walking past my local pub once
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and someone said, "Oh, Fat Bastard,
how are ya?"
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It doesn’t matter how old you are,
if you are fat,
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you are marginalised by society.
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There’s a lot of medical contributing
facts to people’s weight
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that a lot of people don’t realise
and all they see is somebody that’s big
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and they assume that they eat a lot.
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Myself, I suffer from polycystic ovaries
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and also under-active thyroids.
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So as a child, I was always slim.
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I come from a family that is quite slim.
Their build is quite slim.
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You know, it was only when I hit puberty
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that I started putting on this weight.
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I was diagnosed with epilepsy
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and the first medication they put me on,
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I put on a lot of weight quite quickly.
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I lost a lot of self-confidence,
which I think also led to me
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putting on more weight.
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The emotions and feelings
that I associate with eating
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are quite difficult because I... There is a part of me...
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Because I have recovered from binge eating
disorder there’s a part of me
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that still if I have had a difficult day
wants to go home
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and eat a lot of things in one go which
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I wouldn’t enjoy them, it would just be
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because that is what I have done
in the past
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and just seems to be something that, that I have picked up as a way of coping,
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which I have now moved away from,
but is still something I'm conscious of
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and still occasionally want to go
and do that...
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Sometimes, you know, I'm not going to...
I do eat some of the wrong kinds of food
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and you know I don’t go to the gym
as often as I should.
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During my 20s, you know,
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I partied a bit. I was going out with
my friends on the weekends, you know,
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binge drinking all weekends,
not a good healthy lifestyle,
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but at the time, I didn’t care.
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Food is pretty much central
to our existence.
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Mum would always complain that we are
always thinking about our stomachs.
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I suffer from a severe lackof self-discipline.
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So when I go to the supermarket,
I will generally walk through the door
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and the first thing I will see is the
things on offer, biscuits two for one.
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And then I will see the salad.
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And it’s salad. And you’ve got carrots
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and you’ve got hummus
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and you’ve got Maltesersand you’ve got Twirl
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and you’ve got Buttons and Dairy Milk
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this and Twix that and it is cheaperand it is on deal,
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so why wouldn’t I?It spirals and it gets out of control...
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It's just quite sneaky really the way
that it creeps up on you
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if you take your eye off the ball.
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[Vinette] The next stageof our post-mortem
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is for Carla to go deeper into the body,
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beyond the surface fat, to get to the organs.
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What will we discover from themabout the damage that fat has done?
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[Carla] The organs come out in blocks
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because they all fit together
in a certain way.
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So, for example, with the
cardio-respiratory block,
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which is the heart and the lungs,
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these are specifically together
and above the diaphragm.
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So you have a natural line there
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that sort of makes them
into one block or pluck.
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So if I remove those and I give those to the pathologist,
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he can then take a look at those organs
while I carry on with the next block.
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[Vinette] To get to each block,
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Carla must first remove the sternum,
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the bony armour that protectsthe major organs of the body.
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It’s not an easy job,
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requiring skill perfected over years,
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and a bit of brute force.
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So I’m going to take my rib shears,
we use these specifically for this job
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as they can cut through bone.
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And what I’m going to do
is just make some very even cuts
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right through all of these bones.
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You can hear the bones are snapping.
This lady isn't exactly young.
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The older people get, the more calcified
their bones become,
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so they become very, very crunchy, whereas
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younger people tend to have
much more soft bones.
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In order to do this job, you have to be
strong of stomach to start with,
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but that’s something you either
know or you don’t.
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I never would have considered
doing this job if I didn’t know
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I had a strong stomach.
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I'm now removing the breast bone
or the breast plate, or sternum,
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with upward strokes and this way I
don’t damage any of the pericardium,
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which is the sack that keeps
the heart safe.
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The first time I saw somebody
doing a post-mortem
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I think I was just absolutely rapt,
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I was fascinated and it is because
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the human body is an incrediblycomplex machine.
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To open a human being, to see all of thatabsolutely perfect jigsaw of organs
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perfectly in place,
it really did make me feel very awed.
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When you do an autopsy on
somebody who’s very slim,
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the organs are there
and they’re very evident.
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It’s like a game of Operation or like
one of those anatomical models
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that you would use at school.
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In a woman this size, a lot of it is
really hidden by this extra yellow fat,
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it is making it quite difficult
to see the structures,
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much more difficult than it would
if she was a thinner person.
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[Vinette] Before Carla removesthe heart and lungs,
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Mike wants to take a look at the organs while they’re still in the body
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to see if we’ll discover any early indications of trauma or damage.
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You can see the heart here.
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There’s a large amount of fat
around the heart.
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There’s more here than you
would see normally,
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quite considerably more.
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Underneath the heart and lungs,
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in this area here,
is what you call the diaphragm,
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that’s a big muscle
that helps you breathe.
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[Carla] Even the diaphragm seems
very fatty to me.
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Even on the surface where the heart fat
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and the diaphragm are meeting,
there is more fat than usual.
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And actually the thing that you can
see most is an extremely enlarged liver.
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This is very, very large, and it’s got
what we call fatty liver change.
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So this is a fatty liver.
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And a fatty liver is very much associated
with obesity.
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You can see, there’s a lot of fat
around these organs,
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so what would be between my hands now
would be the kidneys.
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Now the kidneys always have
fat around them.
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I think it’s important while we are
talking about the fat to realise
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fat is a normal thing.
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Everybody has fat in them. However
thin you are, there will be some fat
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and fat has got very, very important roles
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and one of those roles
is to protect things.
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It’s the too much fat that is the problem.
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Fat is made up of cells called adipocytes,
which are fat cells,
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and really for a long, long time
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until very recently, people thought that
fat was just an inert substance
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that just sort of sat there and
didn’t really do anything,
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but it’s becoming increasingly
understood now
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that fat is actually a very
active substance.
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Fat cells work almost likean endocrine organ.
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People will have heard
of some endocrine organs,
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things like the thyroid gland
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which is related to how much
energy you have, how cold you are
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and so forth, the ovaries,
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the testes, so obviously these hormones
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related to the ovaries
and the testes define whether you are going to be a man
or going to be a woman,
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so those are the sorts of
activities hormones
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have so they are very, very
powerful things.
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Now it has become obvious
that the adipocytes, the fat cells,
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do play an endocrine-type role
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and so have some very powerful effects
that were previously unknown.
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[Vinette] Exactly how fat works
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and what it does is still farfrom completely understood.
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But the day-to-day reality of obesity can be devastating.
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I wish I hadn’t left it till so late
to start trying to lose weight.
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It’s not good on your back,
it’s not good on your knees.
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God knows what it is doing inside.
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I thought, "All right, okay, I’m 30,
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let’s try to start thinking about
trying to have a baby,"
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but with the size that I am, you won’t
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even get any help with sort of IVF
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and things like that because the answer is
you are too big.
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I have always felt insecure thinking that
I would perhaps never find love
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because I am fat.
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Even if it is practical things such as
travelling, going to a fun fair
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or going to a theme park and knowing
I have to sit in a seat that is tiny,
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things like that and there are so
many things... My wedding day,
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preparing for that, preparing my body
for that as to how it would
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look in photos, and even social media,
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in fact my whole life is surrounded by it.
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I have got sleep apnoea because
of my weight
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and what that means is when I lie down
to go to sleep at night,
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the extra weight on my neck and on my face
actually compresses my airways
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so that it stops me breathing properly
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and therefore wakes me up.
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It was waking me up about every
two minutes throughout the night.
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So I wear a machine and it is essentiallya small air pump. It just keeps pressured air going
into my airways through the night,
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so I don’t wake myself up so my sleep
is a lot better.
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Very glad to have the machine,
but I would have been much gladder
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to have not needed it at all.
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When I first properly started
thinking of myself as overweight
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was when I started looking
at wedding dresses.
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It is meant to be a really, reallyhappy time
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and I just felt uncomfortable
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and just ugly and disgusting and
I didn’t want to be there.
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The woman said that they were going to have to order me a size 20 and I thought it was going to
be like a size 16
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and I was just absolutely out of my mind.
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I had no idea I had got that big.
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It was really, really awful.I think I cried most of that night.
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I was angry at myself to have got so big
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and not have noticed. I just felt stupid.
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[Vinette] The next stageof the post-mortem
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is the dissection of the heart and lungs.
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For Mike to be able to do this,
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Carla needs to remove thecardio-respiratory block from the body.
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I'm cutting through the diaphragm here
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just to make sure that I’ve freed
the lungs completely.
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Free them along the spine here.
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I’m going to do the exact same thing
on the other side.
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And then chop across the oesophagus
and the trachea here
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and then all I need to do is basically
pull the organs towards me
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at the same time as releasing
these sort of
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white fibrous tissues that are holding
the organs to the spine,
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and then we’ll get to a point
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where this block, the cardio-respiratory
block, is completely free.
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And then we can take this out as one block
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and we’ve got the heart and the lungs
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and the heart sack, the pericardium.
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When you initially carry out a post-mortem
and you hold an organ such as the heart
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in your hands,
and the heart is very symbolic,
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you know, we use it in all sorts of logos.
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It has a sort of power
and a sort of agency
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that makes you kind of stop and think.
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Because it looks so mundane,
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but then you realise that within it has
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the electrical impulses to keepa person alive.
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[Vinette] With the cardio-respiratoryblock removed from our donor’s body,
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Mike can start his dissectionof her lungs.
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Will we uncover any evidence of damagelinked to her obesity?
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I am going to detach the lungs
from the heart,
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so we’ll start off with the right lung,
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so just cutting through
where the lung is attached,
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and that’s the right lung detached.
This is the left lung
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I’m detaching there.
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I’m just going to make some cuts
across the lung
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just to see what the surface
of the lung looks like.
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These lungs actually look quite healthy,
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there’s no tumours or masses or anything
like that in these lungs.
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What there does seem to be,
and which should be evident now
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if I pick this lung up and squeeze it,
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is you can see the fluid dripping out
of these lungs
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and this is what we call pulmonary oedema,
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that's essentially heart failure fluid,
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this fluid is basically water.
I know it looks red,
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that’s because obviously it's within the
body and it's been mixed with blood.
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This isn’t... Blood is much, much
thicker than that.
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This is really just a watery fluid,
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and this has collected because
this lady has got heart failure.
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This lady died from heart failure,
from hypertensive heart disease,
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but this lady is also obese. She did not die from the obesity.
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The obesity increased the risk factors
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and was associated with the problems
that led to her death.
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Fluid has built up in this lady’s lungs
because her heart isn’t working properly.
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She’d have probably been short of breath
and possibly had a cough.
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But also because the fluid sits
in the chest when you lie flat,
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and that would have given her a sensation
almost of drowning.
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When you become a doctor,
one of the questions that they teach you
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very early on is, how many pillows
do you sleep with?
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And that tends not to because they are
asking how comfortable you are at night,
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it’s because if somebody says, "Oh,
I can’t sleep in a bed, Doctor,
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I have to sleep in a chair or I have to
sleep with eight pillows sitting up,"
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that is very indicative of heart failure.
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[Vinette] From the startling discovery Mike has made in our donor's lungs,
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we now know that she would have felt the impact of her obesity
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and heart failure every single day.
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[Michael] Heart failure is not the sameas a heart attack.
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When a heart fails, it doesn’t fail
immediately in this type of circumstance.
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It fails over a long period of time,
so the symptoms are gradual,
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so this lady may have been able to walk
up ten flights of stairs
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three years ago,
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then she suddenly found she got very
breathless after five flights of stairs,
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then she found it very, very difficult to
even walk up one flight of stairs
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or even carry her shopping.
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It would have been a progressive diseaseas the heart became worse and worse
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and worse. Now the final event, obviously,
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when this lady’s heart stopped working,
that would have been
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an instantaneous event
that led to her death.
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[Vinette] Now it’s time for Miketo examine
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in detail the organ that catastrophically
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failed in our donor.
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What will we find out about how and why she might have died?
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You can’t really see the heart yet because
the heart is sitting in a bag.
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This is called the pericardial sack.
Just going to open that.
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And so I can reflect that back,
and that’s the heart there,
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so the heart now is in my hand
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and you can see all the fat
I was talking about earlier
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really isn’t around the heart,
it's really around the pericardium.
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There is a bit of fat around the heart,
which is here,
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this is absolutely typical
in everybody’s heart,
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even a thin person’s heart
would have this,
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and I’m going to cut off
the pericardial sack.
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This big blood vessel here is the aorta.
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This is the vessel that takes all the
blood from the heart around the body.
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When I feel this heart, it feels baggy.
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The heart in somebody
who is very athletic,
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their heart would be very tight,
very firm,
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it would be like almost picking up a
piece of steak. This is more like a bag.
472
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,280
What I’m going to do now
is weigh this heart.
473
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240
So this heart is
449 grams.
474
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,280
That's a heavy heart. This lady
is, despite her weight,
475
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,800
this lady is actually
quite a petite person.
476
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,480
So you would expect her heart
to be perhaps 275 grams.
477
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Something like that. So this is very
much heavier than you would expect.
478
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,760
And that is the sort of size heart
you would expect
479
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,760
in someone who has got
heart failure
480
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,160
due to high blood pressure
which is what this lady suffered from.
481
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,800
The heart basically has to pump
to keep up the pressure,
482
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,680
the heart gets bigger
and bigger and bigger,
483
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,840
but there becomes a point where
the heart can’t get any bigger
484
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,080
and it basically exhausts itself.
485
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,680
[Vinette] Now that he has discoveredthe shocking state of our donor's heart,
486
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Mike wants to look at it from the inside. He cuts some slices so he can
487
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,760
examine the ventricles, the wallsof the heart that pump the blood.
488
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,000
If you’re a 6'8" All Black second row, you're, you know,
one of the professional footballers
489
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840
running around the pitch,
you need a lot of blood,
490
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
so the wall of the left ventricle
in a young, fit person,
491
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,160
is usually an inch-thick muscle
all the way around.
492
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Now if you look at this lady,
this lady’s left ventricle
493
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,400
is very, very thin. This is eight
millimetres, something like that.
494
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,440
That is because she developed high blood
pressure to start off with,
495
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,560
the heart had to pump harder and harder,
but in the end, what you get to is a state
496
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280
where the muscle can’t keep
the high blood pressure up
497
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,120
and it starts to get thinner and
thinner and thinner and basically
498
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,520
you go from a thick muscular pump
499
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,920
through to a paper bag that's not capable
of pumping blood adequately
500
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800
around the body. And we see
a lot of these hearts.
501
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,160
We see them on a background
of hypertension.
502
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,480
This is a common finding and
becoming more common.
503
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Hypertension is high blood pressure.
504
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Obesity is well known to be one
of the major risk factors
505
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,360
for high blood pressure,
so in this lady
506
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,680
they were not able to control that
and that led to changes within the heart
507
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,520
which meant the heart failed,
it couldn’t work properly
508
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640
and that is what this lady died from.
509
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,720
[Vinette] Obesity is a killer.Not by itself,
510
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,960
but in the many ways that it triggers and accelerates disease.
511
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:25,280
But so much of the way that we think aboutfat isn't medical at all, it's personal.
512
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,600
I have been fat all my life
513
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,880
and it’s never been a positive
thing for me.
514
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,800
I’ve always associated it with something
negative to be honest.
515
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,960
I feel like fat is a filter
516
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,880
through which I'm seen because
there are certain stereotypes
517
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,680
that go alongside being fat,
being overweight,
518
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:54,880
that maybe people who are overweight
are lazy or not very clever.
519
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,520
I don’t know where those have come from,
520
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,960
but I feel like I have to try extra hard
521
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120
to prove those things wrong.
522
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,800
I don't think I necessarily would
associate my fat with being invited
523
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,160
to get together with friends or going out,
524
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,880
but, you know, if they were going to
play a game of football or rugby,
525
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,080
they might think twice.
526
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Socially, in terms of relationships,
definitely has.
527
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,040
I mean, you go into a bar and you look
like a GQ cover model versus me,
528
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,320
the girl is always going to go
for the GQ cover model,
529
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,920
sadly, and try as I might
to be the funny fat guy.
530
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,720
You try to build this wall,
this wall that, you know,
531
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,600
you just sort of try to ignore it,
532
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,600
and from strangers you can because
you think, well, they don’t know me,
533
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
but when somebody who is supposed
to love you and
534
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,400
somebody who supposed to care for you
and accept you for who you are,
535
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,640
when they call you fat, just to...
536
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,440
The feeling is just horrible.
It’s not a nice feeling at all.
537
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,120
It makes you feel really low, sad, alone.
538
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,480
[Vinette] The next block of organs to be removed
539
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,080
are the organs of the digestive systemcalled the coeliac block.
540
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,400
What I'm trying to do here is make sure
that I've got the stomach
541
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,000
and the lower bowel and the liver and
the spleen all together in one block
542
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,280
for Mike to take a look at,
and not to damage the kidneys,
543
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,760
but at this point, I don’t think I am
going to be able to damage them anyway
544
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,560
because they are so surrounded
by such a large envelope of fat.
545
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,800
So we have got some faecal matter,
we have got some bile,
546
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,719
and then obviously a lot of blood.
The blood is mixed in with the fat
547
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,360
which is yellow, so that is giving us
some orangey fluids.
548
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,040
It is a multi-sensory rainbow
at the moment.
549
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,640
Every single thing that is in each of
these blocks is incredibly important,
550
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,160
and, you know, does amazing jobs
for our body.
551
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,960
It’s just a case of... It's not very
pleasant once they have stopped working
552
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,200
and they have started to decompose
a little bit.
553
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,960
[Vinette] To completely free the organs,
554
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,480
Carla needs to cut throughthe fibrous membrane
555
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,680
that holds them to the spineat the back of the body.
556
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,240
So this is a huge coeliac block.
557
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,080
It is incredibly heavy and the liver,
as you can see, is taking up most of it.
558
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,400
You can just see the spleen there
and also the stomach
559
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,280
and a bit of the small bowel
is attached as well.
560
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,440
When I first encountered a deceased person,
561
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,360
I think what really struck me
was just the stillness and the cold
562
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,840
because, of course, I had never,
at that point, felt flesh
563
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,840
that was so cold and it gave me
a real kind of sensation
564
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,400
of kind of dipping my toe
into very cold water.
565
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,480
And then once I had done it,
that feeling had never quite left.
566
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,920
It was like this other subterranean world.
567
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,600
[Vinette] In the next stageof the post-mortem,
568
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,320
will we find any evidence of fat damagein the organs of our donor’sdigestive system?
569
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,680
This is the organs that include the liver,
570
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,720
the spleen, the stomach and the pancreas.
571
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:25,240
Now this is much heavier than I would
expect it to be in a smaller individual.
572
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Largely because the liver is so big.
573
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,280
[Vinette] First, Mike is goingto take a look at the organ
574
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,120
that most people associate with obesity.
575
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,760
This is the stomach.
576
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,160
Basically, just like a bag that holds the
food before the food goes through
577
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,960
into the bowel
where it is actually digested
578
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,560
and there are actually many
of the treatments associated
579
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,800
with obesity deal with the stomach and what they try and do is reduce
the size of the stomach
580
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,680
so that people have a feeling
of being satisfied
581
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,520
from eating without eating so much.
582
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,840
There is a whole variety, gastric bands
fit around the stomach,
583
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,400
there is various bypass operations
and so forth.
584
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,120
The stomach is very good at dilating,
585
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,080
so if this lady had had
a very large meal before she died
586
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,960
and had not had opportunity to digest it,
the stomach would be much more obvious.
587
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,480
But this is a fairly typical
sized stomach.
588
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,320
[Vinette] Next Mikewill dissect the liver,
589
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,280
the organ he discovered showingsuch dramatic changewhen he saw it in the open body.
590
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,520
But what will it reveal to us
591
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,360
about the consequences of fatbuilding up where it shouldn’t?
592
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,080
The first thing I saw
when we opened the abdomen
593
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,440
was the size of this liver and the fact
594
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,680
that this liver showed marked
fatty change.
595
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,760
I am going to make some slices
through the liver
596
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,480
just so I can see what the cut surface
of the liver looks like.
597
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,160
I am using a sponge so I don’t cut myself.
598
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,840
So I have made some cuts across the liver
there, and you can see
599
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,200
that the surface of the liver
is this sort of pinky colour.
600
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,600
That is very characteristic of fatty liver
change. It is very soft.
601
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520
It almost feels like pate in consistency.
602
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Normal liver is quite soft,
but not as soft as this
603
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,680
and it has a much meatier,
much redder, bloody colour, dark red.
604
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,680
The lightness in this is caused
by the fat within the liver
605
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,600
and the fat is deposited
within the hepatocytes,
606
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,720
which are the liver cells,
and this fat would obviously
607
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,440
be pale in colour and the liver cells
themselves are
608
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,600
dark so the combination of the two gives
you this light sort of pink colour.
609
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,040
That's much, much lighter colour than
you would expect a normal liver to be.
610
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,680
That is a classic sign of fatty liver
disease and is becoming a major problem
611
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,800
and is one of the major reasons
for a liver transplant in the world.
612
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,080
The most common cause of fatty liver
at the moment is alcohol-related
613
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,400
fatty liver, but we know that this lady
drunk almost nothing,
614
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,480
so it is very unlikely that this change
is due to alcohol consumption.
615
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,440
It is almost certainly
an obesity-related change.
616
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,120
Fatty liver causes damage to the liver.
It can lead on to cirrhosis,
617
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,840
it can actually lead on to cancer as well.
618
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,200
But even if people do not develop
cancer or,
619
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,440
it can lead to liver failure, so there is
multiple ways it can lead to the death
620
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,480
of a patient. It didn’t lead
to the death of this lady
621
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,760
really because her heart was
itself so bad,
622
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,920
but this is very dramatic change
within this liver.
623
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,000
[Vinette] Before the post-mortem,
624
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,520
we could never have known how dramaticallydamaged our donor’s liver would be,
625
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,360
or that she'd be carrying a second life-threatening disease.
626
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,400
But excess internal fat doesn’t have to be a death sentence.
627
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,080
The good news is the fight to beat the dangerous invisible fat can be won.
628
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,920
It is a daily struggle,but the prize is big.
629
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,560
Now I am trying to lose weight. I have
actually lost three and a half stone.
630
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,320
I am in a weight management clinic,
I get support from a dietician.
631
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,720
I get support through weekly weigh-in'sand I get support from a counsellor
632
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,600
which is really, really handy
633
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,920
to help with your mental frame
of mind as well.
634
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,840
So what I have been doing to lose weight
635
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,120
is cutting out the chocolate,
cutting out the biscuits,
636
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,560
cutting out the crisps,
all that sort stuff.
637
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,280
I am not perfect.
I still have the take aways,
638
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,320
I still have cheeky bar of chocolate,
639
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,880
but, you know, I have also been
exercising a lot more
640
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,200
and really pushing myself to exercise,
641
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,800
really pushing myself to get to the gym.
642
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520
[Ben] Tons of activity. I struggle.
643
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,280
I try and get in an hour of walking a day,
644
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,440
but I don’t always manage it.
645
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,920
Just walking around the park half a dozen
times doesn’t really do it for me.
646
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,280
You know, I don’t like running and
I have a problem with my knees.
647
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,040
To start jogging around a park is not onlyjust a physically difficult thing,
648
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,880
but it is an emotionallydifficult thing to do.
649
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,800
To get out there in running gear
650
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,840
for all the world to see
some parts of your body jiggling
651
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,840
that you just don’t want
them to see sadly.
652
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,840
I have had gym memberships up the wazoo.
653
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,480
I’ve done detoxes for 22 days,
654
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,680
just drinking lemon juice, cayenne pepper,
water and a bit of maple syrup.
655
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,240
It’s disgusting, I can tell you.
656
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,880
I have tried a lot and I will
probably end up trying more,
657
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,480
but I think slowly getting better
and making better choices
658
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,640
is really where it is all about.
659
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,040
[Meg] My motivation to now
660
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,920
tackle my weight and to try and
reach a healthier weight
661
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,400
is because I have now recovered
from my binge-eating disorder.
662
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,400
It is a shame that it had to get this badfor me, you know, to get to this point,
663
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,160
but I did need to access thatpsychological health first in my case
664
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,880
You know, I have now seen the limits that
being overweight has put on my life
665
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,840
and I want to reverse those
666
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,240
and get back out there and
just live life to the full.
667
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,840
[Chanel] I am quite conscious these daysof what I eat.
668
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,640
I do go to the gym.I do what I can to lose weight
669
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,840
or at least maintain it even if
I can’t lose it drastically.
670
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,960
[photographer] Okay,
turn a little bit.
671
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,320
I am a plus-size style beauty
and lifestyle blogger.
672
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,120
People do get inspiredby those sort of things
673
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,680
so I think it is quite useful for meto kind of get out there.
674
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,360
It actually helps me boost my confidence.
675
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,480
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676
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Exercise is not my best friend.
It’s quite a chore for me in a sense.
677
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,480
But I feel that in life with a lot
of things, you’ve just go to,
678
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,320
you know, make the effort to do things
that you don’t necessarily love.
679
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,320
[Joey] In January,I decided to join a running club
680
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,480
called Too Fat to Run and it was really,
really scary at first.
681
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,720
I went out and I ran for like ten minutes,which doesn’t sound long,
682
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,760
but when you haven’t run
683
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,200
and then you suddenly you can run
for ten minutes, you are like,
684
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,080
"Oh, crap, I can do that.That was kind of cool."
685
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,800
Then I did my first 5K race.
686
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:42,120
Finishing a race feels
so much better than...
687
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,720
I don’t know, it sounds really, really
cheesy, but it feels so much better
688
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,560
than finishing a pack of crisps.
689
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,360
Every race I do, I can’t believethat I have finished it.
690
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,520
[Vinette] Next, Carla will removethe final group of organs.
691
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,560
But even in the last stagesof the post-mortem,
692
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,320
she takes nothing for granted.
693
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,160
People who donate their bodies to
medical science really are giving a gift.
694
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,200
It is the gift that keeps on
giving actually,
695
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,320
because as a patient I think we all would
prefer that our doctors and our surgeons
696
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,000
have learned on something realistic
to their job
697
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,000
before they are let loose
on a human patient.
698
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,640
You wouldn’t really let a mechanic
take care of your car
699
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,360
if he had never touched an engine.
700
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,200
And it is very much
the same thing with this.
701
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,040
Real bodies are very unpredictable
and very chaotic
702
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520
compared to anything fake, you know,
anything like virtual reality
703
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,760
or a fake cadaver.
704
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Because if you look here, what
you should be able to see are the kidneys.
705
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,120
Granted, they always have
a tiny capsule of fat around them,
706
00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:58,600
a bit like a sort of edamame
bean that you can pop out.
707
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,960
But these fatty capsules are
very, very large,
708
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:08,200
so all you can really see at this point is
a kind of yellow glistening mess.
709
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,360
So this again is indicative of the fact
that she has an awful lot of extra fat
710
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,280
around her organs.
711
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,440
So I am just slicing through the
fibrous tissues and the bits of muscle
712
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,000
that are keeping the kidneys attached
to the spine.
713
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,760
And it is really exactly the same thing
as I have been doing
714
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,600
with the rest of the organs
715
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,480
and that is releasing them from the spine
716
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160
which is what anchors them in place
717
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,200
and then I can just reflect them all
the way down and pull them out
718
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,640
and this is the genito-urinary block.
719
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,720
And this is at least slightly smaller,
slightly easier to manage
720
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,560
because you have only got
the kidneys in this...
721
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,840
There is so much fat. It's just...
722
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,400
[Vinette] Mike needs to dissect thekidneys to find out just how much damage
723
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,160
has been caused by all that excess fat.
724
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,960
[Mike] This is the right kidney,
this is the left kidney
725
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,080
and this in the middle is the big
blood vessel that carries blood
726
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,120
all the way down the body
727
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,040
and the most important and the
first thing I can see is,
728
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,080
there’s an unusual amount of fat
around these kidneys.
729
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,520
Now the kidneys always
have fat around them. The kidneys they are
not protected by bone,
730
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,760
which means that they can be bashed
and they can be hit
731
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,640
if you walk into something or something
hits you, so this fat protects them,
732
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,520
but this lady has much, much more fat
than I would expect.
733
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,320
What I am going to do first
is just cut through this fat,
734
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,280
which is called the perirenal fat.
735
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,080
And you can see quite clearly how
much fat there really is.
736
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,400
In a thin person, this would probably be
737
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,760
a half or a third as thick as
I can see here.
738
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,520
This is bad news for this lady,
739
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,720
as it means that she is more likely
to have the complications of obesity
740
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,000
because of the way
she is carrying the fat.
741
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,000
This pale area here is the kidney.
I am just going to cut into the kidney.
742
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,560
So the kidney has got a thick capsule
around it.
743
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,600
Now there is a small amount
of fat in the middle of the kidney
744
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:47,000
that is completely normal. That is where
745
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,360
basically the kidney is responsible for
filtering your blood and making the urine.
746
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,440
That urine has to go somewhere
747
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,680
so your kidney’s got a funnel
748
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,280
that collects all the urine
from all the bits of the kidney,
749
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,880
takes it down through your urethra
into the bladder
750
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,960
and then when you want to go to the loo,
it goes out.
751
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:09,240
So this bit of fat sits around that
funnel area and is quite normal.
752
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,400
I am going to take the thick capsule
off of the kidney surface
753
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,320
to see what the surface of the kidney
looks like.
754
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,640
The surface of the kidney ideally
should be very, very smooth.
755
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,280
This kidney has got some
scarring on the surface.
756
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,320
There’s areas of indentation
and pock marking
757
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,160
and there is clear damage to this kidney
758
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,280
which would be associated
with high blood pressure.
759
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,200
And we know this lady had high
blood pressure,
760
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,200
which is what led to the changes within
her heart and which led to her death.
761
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,520
[Vinette] The visible scarringand pock marking
762
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,240
we’ve discovered on our donor’s kidneys
763
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,480
are the last of the revelationsshe will yield
764
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,880
before Carla completes the post-mortem and closes the body forever.
765
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,760
When Mike has finished his examination, I then begin the reconstruction
766
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,320
and in a way that is one of the most
important parts of the post-mortem.
767
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,480
What I do is place all of the organsinto a special viscera bag,
768
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,040
which will contain all of the elements
769
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,480
that we have removedin the different blocks
770
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,680
and I place that into the body cavity.
771
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:32,640
And then I use very heavy post-mortemtwine to stitch as neatly as I can
772
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,880
right along the incision that I made andwe describe this as a baseball stitch.
773
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,920
It does look very muchlike a zig-zaggy stitch.
774
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:48,520
[Vinette] Each post-mortem is uniqueand everything they reveal valuable.
775
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,120
This donor’s gift was an opportunityfor Mike and Carla
776
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,480
to unveil the shocking truthshidden inside one body
777
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,560
irreversibly damaged by too much fat.
778
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,600
The evisceration occurred
and it wasn’t as easy to do
779
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:08,640
as it would be with a slightly
smaller patient.
780
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,840
It takes a lot more strength to cut
through this yellow adipose tissue,
781
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:20,200
which kind of blooms out of the abdomen
in this practically neon yellow
782
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,400
and it looks very much like butter
and it has a greasy feel
783
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,520
and it makes you suddenly very aware
784
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,320
of the fat in your own body.
785
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,760
Well, it made me aware
of the fat in my own body
786
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,440
and the effect that might have
on my organs,
787
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,360
the strain it might put on my heart.
788
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,480
The way it may affect my liver.
789
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,600
I think that doing a post-mortem such
as this is a really fantastic way
790
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:51,960
for people to consider their own health
and their own mortality.
791
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,760
[Mike] We never really know
792
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,440
what we are going to findwhen we examine the patient.
793
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,040
The first thing I noticed
when the body had been opened
794
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,960
was the markedly fatty liver.
795
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,640
I know from the history that was provided
796
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,040
that this lady died from heart failure,
797
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,560
but the findings in her heartare extremely marked
798
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,600
and the severity of them actually
surprises me.
799
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:23,000
But before we did the post-mortem
there was no indication
800
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,720
that this lady had a fatty liver
801
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,160
and it is a possibility thateven if this lady
802
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,920
had not developed heart failure,that she may have gone on to
803
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,440
develop liver failure due to the
fatty change within the liver.
804
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,560
[Vinette] We already knew a little aboutthe way this woman lived and how she died.
805
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,760
What we couldn’t have known beforethe post-mortem
806
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,920
was the extent to which obesity would have ravaged her internal organs.
807
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,280
From the suffocating fluid in her lungs,to her scarred kidneys,
808
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,720
creating a potent mix of life-threateningobesity-related disease.
809
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,440
[Jodie] I know that health-wise
being obese and being large
810
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,640
it just isn’t good so
811
00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:12,800
if I can do this documentary to help other
people to see what it is doing to them
812
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,000
internally for them to motivate
their self
813
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,400
so that they can lose the weight so that
maybe they can have a child
814
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,120
or maybe they can live
a little bit longer,
815
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,240
a little bit happier, that is why I amdoing this to help people.
816
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,640
It is fine to have
817
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,960
like, politicians like a health secretary
818
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,800
or whoever or like, doctors on TV saying,
819
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,560
"I want you to eat less and move
more" kind of thing,
820
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,160
but until you can actually
relate that to yourself,
821
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,160
then you can say, "Oh, well, that's notme. That's not going to happen to me."
822
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,920
I think a post-mortem
of someone with obesity
823
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,760
is going to be quite shocking
for a lot of people,
824
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,840
who maybe think they can deal with it,
825
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,200
and I have been there,I have been there as well.
826
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,360
"Deal with it tomorrow.
I am all right right now.
827
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,280
It’s not affecting...
I don’t need a machine to sleep,
828
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,880
I can get around fine," you know,
829
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,760
and just putting off those choicesuntil tomorrow.
830
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,240
Time goes by so quickly
831
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:20,480
and it’s really important to think about
what is going on inside you now
75988
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