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NARRATOR:
Giant volcanic rock walls
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rise up from the sea.
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BRUCE FENTON:
We consider the sheer scale
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of the Nan Madol construction
site... it's mind‐boggling.
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NARRATOR:
Just how were these massive
structures built, and why?
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Ancient astronaut theorists
Giorgio Tsoukalos
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and David Childress embark
on an incredible journey
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to these remote ruins
in search of answers.
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GIORGIO A. TSOUKALOS:
Wow. Look at this.
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DAVID CHILDRESS:
250 million tons
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of basalt just piled up
and into artificial islands.
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NARRATOR:
Will they solve the mystery of
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one of the world's
most baffling sites?
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ROSS CONKLIN:
We should be getting
close to the wall.
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CHILDRESS:
So as soon as you get close
to those stones, it disconnects.
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That's so strange.
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CHILDRESS
The more you know,
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the more mysterious it gets.
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NARRATOR:
There is a doorway
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in the universe.
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Beyond it is
the promise of truth.
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It demands
we question everything
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we have ever been taught.
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The evidence is all around us.
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The future is
right before our eyes.
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We are not alone.
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We have never been alone.
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NARRATOR:
The Pacific Ocean.
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January 1836.
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The British cutter Lambton
arrives at the shores
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of the Micronesian island
of Pohnpei.
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It is one of the first
European expeditions
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to reach this remote landmass,
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which is located roughly 2,500
miles northeast of Australia.
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The ship's surgeon,
identified only as Dr. Campbell,
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writes about a megalithic site
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that stands off
Pohnpei's southeastern shore.
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He speculates
that the massive structures
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are as old
as the Egyptian pyramids,
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and must have been
the work of great men.
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It is one of
the earliest accounts
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of what will later
be known as Nan Madol.
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Nan Madol is this
amazing construction.
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It's‐it's a full‐on city.
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When pilots during World War II
would fly over
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that part of the Pacific, they
would look out their windows,
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and they would see
what essentially was described
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as the Venice of the Pacific.
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So that became
one of its nicknames.
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NARRATOR:
Today, much of Nan Madol is
hidden beneath dense vegetation,
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making it appear as though
the edge of Pohnpei
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extends further out
into the ocean.
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But in reality, it is
an 11‐square‐mile complex
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consisting of more than
100 man‐made islets
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standing atop
a submerged coral reef.
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Archeologists estimate
that to construct the site,
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the builders used
250 million tons of basalt,
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a black rock that forms when
basaltic lava from a volcano
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cools and becomes solid.
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Some of the basalt logs and
blocks weigh upwards of 50 tons.
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Nan Madol is this mysterious
island in the middle of nowhere.
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You have at least 600 miles
in every direction
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where there is
absolutely nothing.
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And so, to find this incredible
megalithic structure there,
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you have to wonder
why that place existed
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in the first place.
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When we consider the sheer scale
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of the Nan Madol construction
site, it's mind‐boggling.
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Why would they need
this scale of construction
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on a tiny island
in the middle of nowhere?
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It is a complete mystery
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who exactly constructed it
and when.
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NARRATOR:
Historians have attributed
the megalithic construction
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to the Saudeleur Dynasty.
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The empire ruled over Nan Madol
for approximately 500 years,
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from 1100 to 1628 AD.
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But speculation that they were
the builders of Nan Madol
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has been the subject
of controversy,
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as many believe that an accurate
dating of the structures
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is virtually impossible
to determine.
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It's difficult, really,
to put dates on Nan Madol.
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Currently, mainstream
archeologists are
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giving the city a date
of about 1100 AD,
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and they're coming up
with that date by dating
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some of the coral rubble
that's there.
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What I think of there
is that this is the date
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of the last repair work
on this amazing city
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and that the city itself
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was actually built
much earlier than that.
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The thing is
they left no records.
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They left no literature,
no history, no art,
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nothing that says that they had
these advanced technologies
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or concepts like mathematics
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that would enable them to build
such an archeological wonder.
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So, it leaves this great mystery
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of who actually constructed
Nan Madol and why.
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NARRATOR:
A team of scientists,
backed by the U. S. Department
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of State Ambassadors Fund
for Cultural Preservation,
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completes a six‐month project to
conduct the first lidar survey
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of this World Heritage Site.
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Lidar utilizes laser wave pulses
to create a 3‐D representation
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of an area and allows
unprecedented access
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to otherwise
impenetrable locations.
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This recent lidar survey
at Temwen Island and Nan Madol
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indicates that there was
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a specially designed
irrigation system
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that could support people
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on this relatively small island
adjacent to Pohnpei.
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And then Nan Madol
is built there, too.
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So, who then would have built
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such a sophisticated
irrigation system,
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which no one knew about
until this recent lidar survey?
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And it doesn't seem that
the‐the so‐called builders,
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the Saudeleurs,
were the builders of this.
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NARRATOR:
While the study continues
to credit the construction
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of Nan Madol to the Saudeleurs,
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many researchers suggest
that the oral history
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of the people of Pohnpei
contradicts this notion.
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This recent lidar survey
is sensational
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because the big mystery
about Nan Madol was always:
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Where did the people get
their food from or their water?
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And according
to the local population,
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it had to be boated in.
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But if you now look
at this new lidar survey,
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which suggests that there is
an artificial irrigation system
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on Temwen, well, they could've
collected the water right there,
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and this leads me to think
that the Saudeleurs
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appropriated whatever was
at Temwen Island and Nan Madol.
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NARRATOR:
Does the lidar survey prove
that the conventional theories
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crediting the Saudeleurs as the
creators of Nan Madol are wrong?
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But if so, who built Nan Madol,
and why?
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Intrigued by the results
of the recent lidar survey,
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ancient astronaut theorists
Giorgio Tsoukalos
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and David Childress
embark on a journey
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to the remote island of Pohnpei.
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They are hoping to find evidence
that could shed new light
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on what has become
a centuries‐old mystery.
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‐Here we are.
‐This is exciting.
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NARRATOR:
This expedition
is the first for Giorgio,
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but David's fifth visit
to the megalithic site.
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‐All right. Hello.
‐Good morning.
‐Hi, Gus. This is our guide.
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‐How are you, Gus?
Good to see you.
‐Welcome to Pohnpei.
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NARRATOR: At Mangrove Bay
on the island's north shore,
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Giorgio and David meet up
with Micronesia's
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National Historic Preservation
Officer, Gus Kohler.
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‐So, ready to go? Okay.
‐Yeah. Let's get going, yeah.
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NARRATOR:
From here, they will travel
by boat to Nan Madol.
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TSOUKALOS:
Nan Madol is one of the last
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ancient mysteries
that I have yet to see,
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and it's been 30 years
since I've wanted to come here.
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And I cannot wait
to see what awaits us.
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And what better guide
than David Childress?
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CHILDRESS: Nan Madol is
the eighth wonder of the world.
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It's one of the most
amazing megalithic sites
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that I've ever seen.
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But it's very little known.
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The archeologists
who come here...
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‐What do they say?
‐Yeah, what... they...
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How do they say it was made,
Nan Madol?
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Every‐Everyone has
their own theory.
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‐Sure.
‐Their own different theory.
‐Yeah.
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If you imagine, if you carry it,
uh, you know,
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it's‐it's a very uneven terrain.
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You've got mountains,
you've got valleys,
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‐you've got water.
‐It's very rugged.
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‐Very rugged.
‐Very rugged.
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And then the‐the question
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of putting it or having it
hung underneath a boat...
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‐It's incredible.
‐I mean, w‐we've tried to carry
lots, small ones on rafts,
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tried to imitate how...
it's just impossible.
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‐They can't do it?
‐Really? So you have
actually tried...
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We've tried.
We've experimented.
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...to do it the way that
mainstream archeology suggests
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and it didn't quite work.
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Uh, not with the rafts
that we had.
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NARRATOR:
According to
mainstream scholars,
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bamboo rafts
transported the blocks used
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in the construction
of Nan Madol.
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But Gus Kohler does not agree.
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As far as he's concerned,
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this method has repeatedly
been tested and has failed,
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even when the smallest
of basalt columns are used.
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One of the most recent attempts
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was made for a
television documentary in 1995.
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After several attempts,
they were unable to demonstrate
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how this would be done,
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even with smaller blocks
weighing only one ton.
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NARRATOR:
After a 90‐minute boat ride,
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David and Giorgio
get their first look
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at the massive basalt walls
of Nan Madol.
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CHILDRESS:
All right, so here we go.
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Here's the massive
sea wall here.
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But it's just huge.
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Look at these giant stones.
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How they're piled up here.
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‐But it‐it's just, it's huge.
‐TSOUKALOS: Incredible.
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CHILDRESS:
It's just 250 million tons
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of basalt just piled up
and into giant walls
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and artificial islands.
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It‐it boggles the mind.
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It's‐it's so incredible.
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I mean, some of these blocks
are just massive, massive.
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CHILDRESS:
Yeah, huge.
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TSOUKALOS:
The first time I laid eyes
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on Nan Madol,
I thought it was prehistoric.
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This place potentially
is thousands of years older
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than what mainstream
archeology suggests.
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CHILDRESS:
Nan Madol astounds you
when you see it,
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but most archeologists
really don't want
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to open this Pandora's box
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of what is there on this island,
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because it's not
easily explained
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by mainstream archeology.
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NARRATOR:
Rufino Mauricio,
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the Director of
the Federal States
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of Micronesia Office
of National Archives,
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is among many who believe
that the secret
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to Nan Madol's origins
may not be a terrestrial one.
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MAURICIO: The existence
of Nan Madol itself
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continues to puzzle people
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because it welcomes
all kinds of possibilities,
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including possibilities of
people from the outer space...
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NARRATOR:
People from outer space?
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It is a question that Giorgio
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and David are determined
to answer.
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And as the first step
in their investigation,
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they are eager to make a closer
examination of the site
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and investigate the details
of its baffling construction.
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CHILDRESS:
So here we're just on the edge
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‐of Temwen Island.
‐TSOUKALOS: Amazing.
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NARRATOR:
After docking on Pohnpei's
Temwen Island,
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ancient astronaut theorists
Giorgio Tsoukalos
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and David Childress
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are now approaching
the ancient ruins
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of Nan Madol by land.
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With them is Micronesia's
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National Historic Preservation
Officer, Gus Kohler.
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Okay, we're gonna
make a left up there.
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A left up here? Okay.
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CHILDRESS:
This is it, huh? Okay.
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‐KOHLER: This is it.
‐TSOUKALOS: Yes.
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NARRATOR:
To get an expert opinion
on the construction
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of this staggering
megalithic complex...
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‐Yeah, let's do it.
‐KOHLER: Follow me.
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...they have enlisted
UCLA Professor
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of Structural Engineering
Dr. Henry Burton.
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HENRY BURTON:
I'm a structural engineer,
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so I think about how to
design things to make sure
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that they move
through structures
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in a way that they're...
that they're stable.
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Are you okay back there?
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BURTON:
So, my role is to bring
a modern perspective
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on the structures that we're
seeing here in Micronesia.
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TSOUKALOS:
Wow. Look at this.
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‐KOHLER: Amazing, huh?
‐BURTON: That's amazing.
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‐I mean,
look at some of those...
‐BURTON: I know.
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‐But, I mean...
‐Look at that one.
‐BURTON: Look at that guy.
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CHILDRESS:
So, here's this huge wall here
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full of prismatic basalt.
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How would you build that,
then, today?
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Well, you'll...
You'd certainly need cranes,
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I can tell you that.
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Um, even for some
of these smaller blocks,
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you're talking about
on the order of tens of tons.
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CHILDRESS:
So, how would you build this
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if you didn't have any cranes?
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Well, that I can't...
I can't, um...
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Yeah, I can't think of any way
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that you'd be able
to build this.
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TSOUKALOS:
Because one would argue,
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perhaps, this was done
with some sort of scaffolding,
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but wouldn't you need
really strong trees?
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And they don't really have
strong trees here
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to build that type
of scaffolding.
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Yeah. It's a mystery to me.
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I can't imagine how it could be
built without cranes.
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So, Gus, uh,
what is your tradition
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of how they built these walls?
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And that is, distance‐wise,
how long? How far?
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20 miles? Okay.
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Just imagine moving
that boulder right there.
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How many people would it take
to move that?
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What kind of a boat
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would you have that you could
put that boulder on?
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Well, I mean, you'd‐you'd be
talking about a barge, right?
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So, um, there are barges
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that hold up to, uh,
hundreds of tons.
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They have hundreds of tons
in terms of‐of capacity,
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so that's what
you're talking about.
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You're talking about
basically shipping barges.
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‐Giant shipping barge.
‐BURTON: Yes.
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‐Like what we have today.
‐Yes.
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TSOUKALOS:
The idea that people
actually dragged these things
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across a rugged terrain
or on rafts,
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it's absolutely preposterous
in my opinion.
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The bottom line is
that it is an impossibility
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to move 250 million tons
of basalt
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from one side of the island
to the other
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without modern technology,
without modern machinery.
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NARRATOR:
As a heavy rain
suddenly sets in,
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the team makes its way
through the ancient site
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and towards a remarkable feature
in one of the basalt walls.
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TSOUKALOS:
So, the weather here
changes every 30 seconds.
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NARRATOR:
For structural engineer
Henry Burton,
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just as impressive as the size
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of the stones
used to construct Nan Madol
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is the engineering knowledge the
ancient builders must have had.
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BURTON:
So, what's interesting
about this is if you look
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at the doorway
in any modern building
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and you open up the walls,
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you'll find a beam
directly over the doorway.
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And why this type of beam
is important is because
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it supports all of the load
that's above it.
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It's called a lintel.
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Right? So, that's actually
a‐a structural element
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that's used in design.
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This is interesting because
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this is actually
in bending, right?
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It's subtle,
but this is actually
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a bending action
that you're seeing here,
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and it becomes a little bit
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more interesting
when you have to do the design.
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Wh‐What type of mathematics
or physics is involved here?
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Well, there are several things
you have to think about.
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So, first,
you'd have to think about
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the load
that's being placed on this.
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Right?
Then you would have to consider
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the structural mechanics,
so you'd have to consider
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the cross‐sectional properties
of this thing.
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You would have to consider
the material properties.
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Now, if we're talking about
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sort of what governs
the bending shape
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of this thing, then there's
some actual calculus involved
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in‐in understanding that.
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TSOUKALOS:
Dr. Burton said
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that in order to calculate
these stress levels,
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he would need advanced
mathematics such as calculus.
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And that is a pretty tall order,
because even archeologists
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would have to admit
that calculus
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did not exist in the 1100 AD.
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Calculus,
for all intents and purposes,
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was not invented
until the 17th century AD.
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So, gentleman,
we're gonna cross.
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All right, let's do it.
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NARRATOR:
Although no inscriptions
of any kind exist
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on the stone structures,
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in 1907,
excavations were performed
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in areas believed to be
ceremonial temples and tombs.
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KOHLER:
So, this is the central part
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of Nandauwas,
the ceremonial center.
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TSOUKALOS:
This is unreal.
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Right up front,
you'll see a tomb.
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CHILDRESS:
Isn't this great?
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This is just something else,
isn't it?
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TSOUKALOS:
Wow.
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This is extraordinary.
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TSOUKALOS:
And then this was,
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uh, some type of a tomb
at some point?
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Okay.
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CHILDRESS:
But they're not really sure
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that it was a tomb, are they?
Do they...
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TSOUKALOS:
And‐and what did they discover?
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Did they discover bones?
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And then later,
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some of the excavated material
from here
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was put on a ship,
and that ship sank
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in the Marshall Islands,
and everything was lost.
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So, the excavator died
and the ship sank.
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So is this similar to, like,
the curse of the pharaohs?
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Because also in ancient Egypt,
they were saying
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that if you excavate something,
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you'll have a curse
and you die.
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‐And some people have died.
‐Well...
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NARRATOR:
Although Pohnpei is home
to 34,000 people,
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Nan Madol is
completely uninhabited
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and has been for centuries.
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Among the reasons is that
the native islanders believe
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this ancient site is cursed.
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HENRY:
There's all kinds
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of taboos
about visiting this place,
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like it's got ghosts there.
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CHILDRESS:
The local islanders believe
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that the city of Nan Madol
is cursed, and they believe
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that if they spend the night
there, they'll die.
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The islanders say that at night,
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there are lights
that move around in the city.
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NARRATOR:
An unexplainable death
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after the opening
of a sacred tomb?
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‐All evidence
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gathered from the site
mysteriously lost at sea?
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Could Nan Madol be home
to something that mankind
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is not yet meant to discover?
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Man, oh, man.
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Wait, look how tall that is.
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NARRATOR:
While visiting
the ancient site of Nan Madol,
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ancient astronaut theorists
Giorgio Tsoukalos
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and David Childress,
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along with their guide,
Gus Kohler,
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and structural engineer
Dr. Henry Burton,
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have traveled
to the site of Nandauwas,
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the royal mortuary
said to belong
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to Nan Madol's
original builders.
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This is supposed to be the
biggest stone here at Nandauwas.
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This cornerstone right here?
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To this day, it's...
it's supposed to be
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the biggest
of all the stones here.
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Henry, do you think you can
calculate the weight of this?
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Yeah, we can
certainly estimate it.
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Um, I have a measuring tape...
we can estimate
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the volume,
and we know the density,
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so that can give us the mass.
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All right, let's do that.
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BURTON: Yeah, so this is
about four meters.
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All right, here's,
uh, the far... corner here.
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NARRATOR:
Using the dimensions
and the density
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of one of
the basalt stone blocks,
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‐Dr. Burton calculates
its weight.
‐TSOUKALOS: 250.
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‐Two meters, 50.
‐All right, so based
on the measurements,
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we are looking at a weight
of about 54 tons.
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‐54 tons?
‐Yeah, so 50 tons, give or take.
‐Wow.
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And you have
one, two, three, four
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of those monoliths essentially
stacked on top of each other
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at a height of 40 feet?
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CHILDRESS:
So, Gus,
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what is then the oral history
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of moving this stone
on the island?
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Well, according to the legends,
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uh, the stones
were flown up there.
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NARRATOR:
For generations,
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the people of Pohnpei
have told the story
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that Nan Madol was constructed
by strange visitors
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through a process of levitation.
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It is this legend
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that has suggested
to ancient astronaut theorists
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that Nan Madol is not only
an ancient megalithic structure,
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it is also
an extraterrestrial one.
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We have in the oral traditions
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a story about two brothers...
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NARRATOR:
According to legend,
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the twin sorcerers
who created Nan Madol
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were of giant proportions,
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much like the legends
of Easter Island,
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‐where it is said
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that giants magically floated
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the stone moai statues
into place.
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Similar stories
involving levitation
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are associated with numerous
other megalithic sites...
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like Stonehenge in England,
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the Great Pyramid
in Giza, Egypt,
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the Uxmal pyramid
in the Yucatan peninsula,
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and Puma Punku in Bolivia.
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There are other stories
around the world
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that say the exact same thing:
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how gigantic stones
were moved into place
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as if by magic.
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And you have to ask yourself:
Is there a connection?
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Did all of our ancestors
receive the same knowledge
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from extraterrestrials?
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And the answer to that is
a resounding yes.
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Okay.
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CHILDRESS:
Yeah, they don't know... I think
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they don't know
where it came from.
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‐TSOUKALOS: Aha.
‐But it's not from here, right?
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CHILDRESS:
So, yeah, 60% of the stones,
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they don't know
where they came from.
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That's incredible,
that the 60% is essentially
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still a mystery, yes?
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Huh.
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NARRATOR: For decades,
mainstream archeologists
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had been frustrated by their
failure to identify the source
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for much of the basalt used in
the construction of Nan Madol.
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But recently,
a growing number of scientists
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have become convinced
that it came
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from a volcanic outcropping
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located 25 miles northeast
of Nan Madol
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called Pwisehn Malek.
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The unusual formation extends
over 400 feet into the air,
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and incredibly, the rock used
to construct Nan Madol
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appears to have been extracted
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from the least accessible part
of the mountain:
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the very top.
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But how?
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According to the oral history
of Pohnpei,
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the basalt was taken
by what the natives referred to
485
00:25:24,898 --> 00:25:27,359
as a "giant bird."
486
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,737
There's one story that says
that at some point
487
00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:32,322
there were these giant roosters
488
00:25:32,322 --> 00:25:35,659
that lived on top
of that mountain,
489
00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:39,038
and this rooster took
these basalt blocks
490
00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:42,166
and flew them over to Nan Madol.
491
00:25:43,459 --> 00:25:46,545
Now, monster roosters
do not exist,
492
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:50,716
so my mind always goes
to misunderstood technology,
493
00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:54,970
machines that were provided
by the extraterrestrials.
494
00:25:57,389 --> 00:26:00,601
CHILDRESS:
I believe that
the islanders are correct
495
00:26:00,601 --> 00:26:05,439
when they say all those stones
were flown through the air,
496
00:26:05,439 --> 00:26:09,568
because I can't see how
it was done in any other way.
497
00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:13,238
NARRATOR:
As far as ancient
astronaut theorists
498
00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:15,657
are concerned,
the local legends,
499
00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:17,534
along with hard evidence
500
00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:20,079
that basalt appears
to have been excavated
501
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:23,832
from the top of Pwisehn Malek,
add credence to the idea
502
00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:27,002
that advanced alien technology
was used in the construction
503
00:26:27,002 --> 00:26:28,837
of Nan Madol.
504
00:26:28,837 --> 00:26:31,548
And to help prove their theory,
Giorgio Tsoukalos
505
00:26:31,548 --> 00:26:35,511
and David Childress,
along with structural engineer
506
00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:39,098
Dr. Henry Burton, travel
25 miles across the island
507
00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:42,017
to visit
the nearest basalt quarry.
508
00:26:42,017 --> 00:26:44,103
TSOUKALOS:
Man, look at this.
509
00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:46,105
‐BURTON: Wow.
‐What a quarry, huh?
510
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:50,025
So how does one free the basalt
from‐from this wall?
511
00:26:50,025 --> 00:26:51,944
Yeah, no, it would,
it would certainly require
512
00:26:51,944 --> 00:26:53,612
some specialized tools,
513
00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,365
some type of excavator,
some type of drill tip.
514
00:26:56,365 --> 00:26:57,991
Once you start taking rocks off,
515
00:26:57,991 --> 00:27:01,120
depending on how much room
you have to drive things up,
516
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:03,122
um, depending on the size
of the blocks,
517
00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:04,998
you might need a crane
to sort of move things around.
518
00:27:04,998 --> 00:27:07,084
You would need
some type of machinery
519
00:27:07,084 --> 00:27:09,253
to be able to do that today.
520
00:27:09,253 --> 00:27:12,172
How did people from
at least a thousand years ago
521
00:27:12,172 --> 00:27:13,966
remove these blocks
522
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:15,968
from this quarry?
523
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:18,887
CHILDRESS:
They had to somehow pry
524
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,640
these columns out of the cliff
525
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,269
and, you know, remove them
so that they would be, yeah,
526
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:27,646
‐stand‐alone piece
of prismatic basalt...
‐Yeah.
527
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:31,024
...and then, and then move it,
millions of tons of it.
528
00:27:31,024 --> 00:27:33,068
I would think that, yeah,
there was very much
529
00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:36,989
a special survey done
of this island,
530
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:39,658
looking for material
that could be used to build.
531
00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:41,326
‐TSOUKALOS: Right.
‐And I would say
532
00:27:41,326 --> 00:27:43,996
that an aerial survey
would accomplish all of that.
533
00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:46,623
Yes, yes.
Or any type of, you know,
534
00:27:46,623 --> 00:27:50,168
advanced, uh, radar technology
that, in my opinion,
535
00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:53,964
existed with the
extraterrestrials at the time.
536
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,342
NARRATOR:
For Giorgio and David,
537
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,928
the more they learn
about Nan Madol,
538
00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:02,180
from the weight
of the basalt columns
539
00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:05,100
to the distance
they had to be transported
540
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,645
to the tools that would be
needed to quarry the rock,
541
00:28:08,645 --> 00:28:10,814
the more difficult
it becomes to explain
542
00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:13,233
how all of this
could have been accomplished
543
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:17,571
without the help of advanced
extraterrestrial technology.
544
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:21,533
Nevertheless, according to
the oral history of Pohnpei,
545
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:24,453
the most compelling evidence
cannot be found
546
00:28:24,453 --> 00:28:27,748
by examining the megalithic
structures themselves,
547
00:28:27,748 --> 00:28:30,626
but what lies beneath them.
548
00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:40,928
NARRATOR:
In search of further clues
549
00:28:40,928 --> 00:28:43,055
to help solve the mystery
of Nan Madol,
550
00:28:43,055 --> 00:28:46,058
David Childress
and Giorgio Tsoukalos
551
00:28:46,058 --> 00:28:49,436
meet up once again with
historical preservation officer
552
00:28:49,436 --> 00:28:51,146
Gus Kohler.
553
00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:53,148
‐You guys ready for a trip?
‐All right. Yes.
554
00:28:53,148 --> 00:28:55,359
NARRATOR:
Gus has provided access
555
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,404
to underwater drones so they can
get an additional perspective
556
00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:01,531
on the ruins of Nan Madol.
557
00:29:01,531 --> 00:29:04,826
With their drone operator,
Ross Conklin,
558
00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:07,412
David and Giorgio head out
towards an area
559
00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:09,790
where it has been reported
that there are a number
560
00:29:09,790 --> 00:29:13,961
of incredible structures that
lie hidden under the water,
561
00:29:13,961 --> 00:29:16,922
structures that
some believe are part
562
00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:19,091
of an incredibly ancient
submerged city
563
00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:21,134
called Kanamwayso.
564
00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:33,730
And it's deep under the water.
Uh, it's‐it's another city.
565
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:35,941
It's different than Nan Madol.
566
00:29:35,941 --> 00:29:37,317
It's a second city.
567
00:29:37,317 --> 00:29:40,529
Could it be that
the coral reef itself is...
568
00:29:40,529 --> 00:29:43,573
is that city,
and the corals grown over it?
569
00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:49,287
NARRATOR:
After a short trip
across the shoreline,
570
00:29:49,287 --> 00:29:52,457
the team arrives
at their destination.
571
00:29:52,457 --> 00:29:55,585
So, when you were scuba diving
here about 30 years ago,
572
00:29:55,585 --> 00:29:59,297
you saw basalt columns
encrusted in coral.
573
00:29:59,297 --> 00:30:00,632
CHILDRESS:
That's what we think.
574
00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:02,134
We‐we think
they're basalt column.
575
00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:05,303
‐We‐we don't know.
‐So wouldn't that
576
00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:09,933
correlate with an extreme age,
if you have columns, you know,
577
00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:12,978
‐encrusted in‐in... in coral?
‐It would have been, I mean...
578
00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:16,565
It's about 80 feet deep or so,
and it would mean that
579
00:30:16,565 --> 00:30:20,068
the ocean levels were 80 feet
lower than they are today
580
00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:22,821
‐whenever they built that.
‐Right. And that would mean
581
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,157
that we're talking
12,000 years ago, at least.
582
00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:27,117
‐Like, the last ice age, yeah.
‐Right.
583
00:30:27,117 --> 00:30:30,162
So, yeah,
that the city would be
584
00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:32,748
12,000 years old or older.
585
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:37,335
NARRATOR:
12,000 years old?
586
00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:39,838
Is it possible
that extraterrestrials
587
00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:42,049
were not only responsible
for constructing
588
00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:44,259
the incredible
Nan Madol complex,
589
00:30:44,259 --> 00:30:48,180
but also an earlier structure
that is now beneath the water,
590
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:51,850
and that they are
still accessing to this day?
591
00:30:54,061 --> 00:30:55,979
In many ancient texts,
592
00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:58,899
there can be found accounts
of a great flood
593
00:30:58,899 --> 00:31:01,693
wiping out a previous
civilization of humans,
594
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:05,363
such as in the Sumerian epic
of Gilgamesh,
595
00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:07,449
the Egyptian Edu Creation texts,
596
00:31:07,449 --> 00:31:09,701
the Vedic texts of India,
597
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:12,162
and the Bible's Book of Genesis.
598
00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:15,749
Today, more and more
scientific evidence is emerging
599
00:31:15,749 --> 00:31:19,294
to suggest that such a cataclysm
may actually have happened
600
00:31:19,294 --> 00:31:21,797
around the end
of the last ice age,
601
00:31:21,797 --> 00:31:24,216
12,000 years ago,
602
00:31:24,216 --> 00:31:27,552
when sea levels
were 400 feet lower.
603
00:31:27,552 --> 00:31:31,598
Is it possible that Nan Madol
was built that long ago
604
00:31:31,598 --> 00:31:35,143
by a now forgotten
pre‐flood civilization?
605
00:31:35,143 --> 00:31:38,772
NEWMAN:
The builders in Nan Madol were
a very advanced civilization.
606
00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:41,441
So whether these people
originated on the island,
607
00:31:41,441 --> 00:31:44,319
or as tradition states...
they came from other areas...
608
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,572
It may have been an inheritance
from the lost city
609
00:31:47,572 --> 00:31:51,034
that was actually underwater
that Nan Madol was built upon.
610
00:31:53,078 --> 00:31:55,831
NARRATOR:
The team prepares to launch
an underwater drone.
611
00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:58,792
This will be the first time
that the ruins
612
00:31:58,792 --> 00:32:01,461
have ever been explored
in this way.
613
00:32:01,461 --> 00:32:04,005
All right, so, Gus,
I'm gonna ask you for a hand
614
00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:05,632
with this cable,
just to wrangle it.
615
00:32:05,632 --> 00:32:07,592
GUS:
Okay.
616
00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:10,303
Watch mode. Boom.
617
00:32:10,303 --> 00:32:13,765
All right, so you just
kind of drop it.
618
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:15,308
CHILDRESS:
Yeah. There it is.
619
00:32:15,308 --> 00:32:16,768
‐All right.
‐CONKLIN: And...
620
00:32:18,937 --> 00:32:20,772
CONKLIN:
All right, now we're moving.
621
00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:22,607
TSOUKALOS:
Cool.
622
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:26,111
A little bit of an image.
623
00:32:26,111 --> 00:32:28,363
TSOUKALOS:
Ooh. Yeah, look at that.
624
00:32:30,073 --> 00:32:32,450
CONKLIN:
Open ocean, open ocean.
625
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:35,620
We should be getting close
to the wall.
626
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,581
‐Wow, cool.
‐So let me drop down.
627
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:43,295
‐And there we start
to see the wall again.
‐Mm‐hmm.
628
00:32:45,213 --> 00:32:48,300
CONKLIN:
Now, disconnected there
for a second...
629
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,302
‐...and connected.
630
00:32:50,302 --> 00:32:54,306
NARRATOR:
Curiously, the image being
relayed by the drone
631
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:57,475
continues to cut out every time
it starts to get close
632
00:32:57,475 --> 00:33:00,145
to what appears to be
an underwater wall
633
00:33:00,145 --> 00:33:02,397
of basalt columns.
634
00:33:04,024 --> 00:33:06,651
‐It keeps disconnecting.
‐Aha.
635
00:33:06,651 --> 00:33:10,572
NARRATOR:
The drone Ross is using tested
perfectly just one day earlier,
636
00:33:10,572 --> 00:33:13,950
and in an area that
was also rich in basalt,
637
00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:19,164
so he is genuinely baffled as
to why it is now malfunctioning.
638
00:33:19,164 --> 00:33:21,374
I think what we should do
is reel this one back in.
639
00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:23,793
I have another underwater drone.
640
00:33:23,793 --> 00:33:25,503
We'll give that one a try
641
00:33:25,503 --> 00:33:27,464
and we'll just go
straight to that wall.
642
00:33:27,464 --> 00:33:29,799
KOHLER:
Okay, fingers crossed.
643
00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:46,024
NARRATOR: While exploring
a vast underwater complex
644
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:49,694
submerged beneath
the ancient ruins of Nan Madol,
645
00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:52,489
ancient astronaut theorists
Giorgio Tsoukalos
646
00:33:52,489 --> 00:33:55,700
and David Childress, along with
historic preservation officer
647
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:59,371
Gus Kohler and drone operator
Ross Conklin,
648
00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:02,582
have just experienced
a mysterious setback.
649
00:34:02,582 --> 00:34:05,252
The submersible drone
they deployed
650
00:34:05,252 --> 00:34:07,254
suddenly stopped working.
651
00:34:07,254 --> 00:34:10,548
Fortunately, Ross came prepared
with a backup.
652
00:34:12,092 --> 00:34:13,385
CONKLIN:
All right,
653
00:34:13,385 --> 00:34:15,053
so I'm heading right
for that corner over there.
654
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:18,556
Okay.
655
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,273
‐Okay. Disconnected.
‐Yeah.
656
00:34:26,273 --> 00:34:28,817
CONKLIN:
Okay, disconnected. Wow.
657
00:34:28,817 --> 00:34:30,527
CHILDRESS:
So as soon as you get
close to those stones...
658
00:34:30,527 --> 00:34:33,029
‐CONKLIN: Unbelievable. Yeah.
‐...it disconnects.
659
00:34:33,029 --> 00:34:34,823
CONKLIN:
So I'm just right
below the surface,
660
00:34:34,823 --> 00:34:36,408
and as soon as I try and drop...
661
00:34:36,408 --> 00:34:38,410
TSOUKALOS:
This is now our second one now.
662
00:34:38,410 --> 00:34:39,786
CHILDRESS:
Yeah, now it's doing it to both.
663
00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:42,163
That's so strange.
664
00:34:42,163 --> 00:34:43,999
NARRATOR:
Curiously,
665
00:34:43,999 --> 00:34:47,877
the second drone
has also malfunctioned.
666
00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:50,255
Could the stone materials
have something to do with it?
667
00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:52,090
TSOUKALOS:
Both underwater drones worked
668
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:55,176
on the north side of the island
the day before.
669
00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:59,472
And then we came
to the area of Nan Madol,
670
00:34:59,472 --> 00:35:03,101
and outside, only a few feet
away from Nan Madol,
671
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:05,854
those machines no longer worked.
672
00:35:05,854 --> 00:35:08,690
It's as if something or someone
673
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:11,192
was interfering
with the devices.
674
00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:15,405
So it's very strange to think
that maybe somehow
675
00:35:15,405 --> 00:35:18,491
those basalt blocks
have been magnetized.
676
00:35:18,491 --> 00:35:21,911
And if that is the case,
what were they exposed to
677
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:25,332
that they are
now apparently magnetized,
678
00:35:25,332 --> 00:35:27,083
as some people have suggested?
679
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:31,379
CHILDRESS:
People see lights in this city.
680
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:33,548
At night, they see
lights moving around, and it...
681
00:35:33,548 --> 00:35:37,302
and that may be because
the whole city's magnetic
682
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:39,471
and it's some kind
of electromagnetic,
683
00:35:39,471 --> 00:35:41,640
‐you know,
phenomenon that's coming...
‐Phenomenon. Yeah.
684
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,475
‐...from the rocks themselves.
‐Right.
685
00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:47,145
NARRATOR:
Oceanic basalt
like that found at Nan Madol
686
00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:49,064
is ferromagnetic,
687
00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:52,067
meaning that, when exposed
to a magnetic charge,
688
00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:55,070
it becomes
magnetically charged itself.
689
00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:56,696
MICHAEL DENNIN:
Rocks really have
690
00:35:56,696 --> 00:35:58,990
three basic effects
on magnetic fields.
691
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:00,533
They either have no effect,
692
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,369
so the magnetic field stays
kind of straight.
693
00:36:02,369 --> 00:36:05,497
They can effectively repel
magnetic fields or attract them.
694
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:09,959
Volcanic rock enhances
the magnetic field.
695
00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:13,380
CHILDRESS:
The natives say
696
00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:17,050
that the stones
all flew across the island.
697
00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:19,135
And if that was the case,
698
00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:22,764
then some magnetic energy
699
00:36:22,764 --> 00:36:25,392
was put onto the stones,
700
00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:28,019
levitated them,
they put them into place
701
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:32,273
and that energy is still there
in a residual manner.
702
00:36:32,273 --> 00:36:35,902
And that is why the drones
wouldn't work there,
703
00:36:35,902 --> 00:36:39,322
because there's still
this energy that was used
704
00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:41,616
to levitate the stones.
705
00:36:41,616 --> 00:36:45,537
If they flew these stones
through the air,
706
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:50,041
if they're using
some antigravity technology,
707
00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:52,544
they would then be magnetized.
708
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:56,089
TSOUKALOS:
Clearly, it has something to do
with the structure.
709
00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:58,675
It's highly unlikely
that two pieces of equipment
710
00:36:58,675 --> 00:37:01,052
are malfunctioning
all at the same time.
711
00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:05,223
NARRATOR:
If the legend of Nan Madol
is true
712
00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:08,101
and it was constructed
by otherworldly visitors
713
00:37:08,101 --> 00:37:12,230
using levitation technology,
what was it built for?
714
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:14,399
TSOUKALOS:
Why would anybody have
715
00:37:14,399 --> 00:37:17,902
to create artificial land
or islands back in the day?
716
00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:20,113
Especially with
a sizeable island
717
00:37:20,113 --> 00:37:21,781
‐right here.
‐Right here.
718
00:37:21,781 --> 00:37:23,825
But think of Venice in Italy.
719
00:37:23,825 --> 00:37:26,035
It's a port city.
It has canals.
720
00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:27,579
It's very much for boats.
721
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:29,497
To me,
it's a giant naval base here
722
00:37:29,497 --> 00:37:30,832
for huge ships,
723
00:37:30,832 --> 00:37:32,751
and those‐those ships
were coming out
724
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,504
of Southeast Asia
into the vast Pacific,
725
00:37:36,504 --> 00:37:39,007
and they would meet here.
726
00:37:39,007 --> 00:37:41,509
And then they would go on
to other islands
727
00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:45,513
and then to Mexico
and to Colombia and Peru.
728
00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:48,600
But then, also,
729
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,352
‐it's airships
and high technology.
‐Right.
730
00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:57,108
CHILDRESS:
I don't think that naval traffic
and airship traffic
731
00:37:57,108 --> 00:38:00,278
are necessarily, uh, exclusive
of each other.
732
00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:01,738
And it would seem that,
you know,
733
00:38:01,738 --> 00:38:03,531
it's a combination of both.
734
00:38:03,531 --> 00:38:05,074
They were using it
as a stepping‐stone,
735
00:38:05,074 --> 00:38:07,035
going out
to other Pacific islands,
736
00:38:07,035 --> 00:38:09,954
where other megaliths and
pyramids and things were built.
737
00:38:11,206 --> 00:38:13,416
NARRATOR:
Was Nan Madol a port
738
00:38:13,416 --> 00:38:16,961
for an advanced
pre‐flood civilization?
739
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:19,297
As far as David Childress
is concerned,
740
00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,633
it was not only a port
741
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:24,469
but one with
an extraordinary origin.
742
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:26,971
And he believes
the most important evidence
743
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,599
to support his theory
can be found
744
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:32,060
by examining
the basalt stone used
745
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:35,104
to build the massive complex.
746
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,363
NARRATOR:
For more than three decades,
747
00:38:43,363 --> 00:38:46,032
ancient astronaut theorist
David Childress
748
00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,618
has been studying Nan Madol.
749
00:38:48,618 --> 00:38:50,161
Over the years,
750
00:38:50,161 --> 00:38:52,372
he has entertained
dozens of theories
751
00:38:52,372 --> 00:38:55,041
as to how it was constructed
and why.
752
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:57,460
Based on what he has learned
over the course
753
00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:59,504
of his latest investigation,
754
00:38:59,504 --> 00:39:01,673
he is now more convinced
than ever
755
00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:03,299
that it was built either by
756
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:07,345
or with the help from
extraterrestrial visitors.
757
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,264
He is also convinced
758
00:39:09,264 --> 00:39:11,850
that the complex was built
with basalt rock
759
00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:15,019
because of
its electromagnetic properties,
760
00:39:15,019 --> 00:39:17,188
properties that would
make it possible
761
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:20,692
to levitate the large
megaton stones into place.
762
00:39:21,985 --> 00:39:25,029
Nan Madol is built
out of millions
763
00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:27,657
and millions of tons of basalt,
764
00:39:27,657 --> 00:39:29,033
which is magnetic.
765
00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,369
And perhaps this is something
766
00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:34,038
that extraterrestrials
can manipulate,
767
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,082
use for themselves.
768
00:39:36,082 --> 00:39:38,501
Even it could
possibly help power
769
00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:41,212
their spaceships and things.
770
00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:44,841
Nan Madol for sure
had to have been built
771
00:39:44,841 --> 00:39:47,343
when the worldwide water levels
772
00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:49,637
were much, much lower.
773
00:39:49,637 --> 00:39:52,724
And that,
according to science,
774
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:56,436
was between 11,000
and 20,000 years ago.
775
00:39:56,436 --> 00:39:58,396
So, right there,
776
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:01,232
we have physical evidence
of a site that,
777
00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:04,569
in my opinion,
was built in prehistory.
778
00:40:04,569 --> 00:40:08,740
NEWMAN: When you find evidence
deep under the water
779
00:40:08,740 --> 00:40:12,076
that potentially goes back
tens of thousands of years
780
00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:14,370
in a very important part
of the Pacific,
781
00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:16,414
it does raise the question:
782
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:20,835
Is there a much earlier epoch to
Nan Madol than people realize?
783
00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:25,590
The incredible site of Nan Madol
looks like it was part
784
00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:28,259
of a great culture
that existed throughout
785
00:40:28,259 --> 00:40:30,261
the Pacific and probably beyond.
786
00:40:30,261 --> 00:40:33,181
We find evidence of similar
construction at Gunung Padang,
787
00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:36,434
which potentially goes back
20,000 years.
788
00:40:36,434 --> 00:40:38,895
We find similar basalt columns
789
00:40:38,895 --> 00:40:41,898
at Olmec sites
in ancient Mexico.
790
00:40:41,898 --> 00:40:44,108
And these builders
may have been influencing,
791
00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:47,779
uh, the pyramid constructions
in ancient Mexico.
792
00:40:47,779 --> 00:40:49,906
All these are indicators
793
00:40:49,906 --> 00:40:53,117
of an ancient lost civilization
in the Pacific.
794
00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:55,787
TSOUKALOS:
There's no doubt in my mind
795
00:40:55,787 --> 00:40:58,915
that the engineering knowledge
for Nan Madol
796
00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:01,668
came from the extraterrestrials.
797
00:41:01,668 --> 00:41:05,004
I have seen megalithic
structures around the world,
798
00:41:05,004 --> 00:41:10,301
but this one is one of the few
that absolutely defies logic.
799
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:14,305
I would categorize Nan Madol
in the same category
800
00:41:14,305 --> 00:41:16,140
like the Great Pyramid of Egypt
801
00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:18,518
and also Puma Punku.
802
00:41:18,518 --> 00:41:21,396
And you have to ask yourself,
is there a connection?
803
00:41:21,396 --> 00:41:24,774
And the answer to that
is a resounding yes.
804
00:41:24,774 --> 00:41:29,821
NARRATOR:
Do the incredible megalithic
constructions at Nan Madol
805
00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:32,156
provide evidence that mankind
806
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:34,617
has only begun
to scratch the surface
807
00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:37,161
of an alien presence
on planet Earth,
808
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:41,666
one that dates back
tens of thousands of years?
809
00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:46,045
As far as ancient astronaut
theorists are concerned,
810
00:41:46,045 --> 00:41:49,340
the answer is a profound yes
811
00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:52,635
and they are also convinced
that further investigations
812
00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:54,345
will not only prove
813
00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:57,473
that extraterrestrials have
revealed themselves to humanity
814
00:41:57,473 --> 00:41:59,851
at different times
throughout history
815
00:41:59,851 --> 00:42:02,645
but that we are
about to be visited
816
00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:07,108
by these same
alien visitors again.
65795
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