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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,263 --> 00:00:16,433 JUDD APATOW: What is your diet and exercise strategies these days? 2 00:00:16,475 --> 00:00:17,976 MEL BROOKS: None, zero. 3 00:00:18,727 --> 00:00:19,770 Get up, 4 00:00:19,811 --> 00:00:21,813 stick my hands out in front of me 5 00:00:21,897 --> 00:00:23,106 in case there's something, 6 00:00:23,148 --> 00:00:24,483 I'm going to hit something. 7 00:00:24,566 --> 00:00:25,984 -JUDD: Yeah. -You know? 8 00:00:26,068 --> 00:00:29,196 And make my way to the bathroom, take a shower... 9 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:33,534 -JUDD: Mm-hmm. -...dress, and do my mental exercises. 10 00:00:33,617 --> 00:00:36,036 -JUDD: Mm-hmm. -"What's your name?" "Melvin." 11 00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:39,164 -(JUDD CHUCKLES) -"Where are you?" "I'm at home." 12 00:00:40,832 --> 00:00:43,877 "What are you gonna do now?" "I'm gonna eat breakfast." 13 00:00:43,961 --> 00:00:44,920 (JUDD CHUCKLES) 14 00:00:45,003 --> 00:00:46,838 "Melvin, what are you going to eat?" 15 00:00:46,922 --> 00:00:51,802 "I'm gonna probably eat some soft-boiled eggs." 16 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:55,305 "And anything else?" "Yes." 17 00:00:55,389 --> 00:00:57,599 "What, Melvin?" "I'm thinking." 18 00:00:57,683 --> 00:00:58,976 (JUDD CHUCKLES) 19 00:00:59,017 --> 00:01:03,021 "Maybe English muffins with some butter." 20 00:01:03,855 --> 00:01:05,607 "Good, Melvin." 21 00:01:05,691 --> 00:01:08,986 "Should you make your way down to the breakfast room?" 22 00:01:09,027 --> 00:01:10,988 "Thank you. That's a good idea." 23 00:01:11,029 --> 00:01:12,614 And then I'd go to the breakfast room, 24 00:01:12,698 --> 00:01:13,824 and then I'd see people, 25 00:01:13,907 --> 00:01:16,076 and I wouldn't have to talk to myself anymore. 26 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:17,160 I'd have people to talk to. 27 00:01:17,244 --> 00:01:19,121 But that's what I do every morning. 28 00:01:19,204 --> 00:01:20,956 -JUDD: You answer it correctly you know... -MEL: Yeah. 29 00:01:20,998 --> 00:01:22,499 -...you can start your day. -MEL: Right, right. 30 00:01:22,541 --> 00:01:24,084 JUDD: You have all your marbles. 31 00:01:24,167 --> 00:01:27,713 ♪ (FUNKY MELODY PLAYS, FADES) ♪ 32 00:01:27,796 --> 00:01:31,425 {\an8}CREW MEMBER: Five, four, three... 33 00:01:31,508 --> 00:01:33,760 INTERVIEWER: Mel Brooks, let's talk about Blazing Saddles for a moment. 34 00:01:33,844 --> 00:01:34,928 -Um.. -(EXCLAIMS, BLOWS RASPBERRY) 35 00:01:35,012 --> 00:01:36,430 Okay, I'm fine. I just have to settle. 36 00:01:36,513 --> 00:01:38,515 I'll just get that out of my system. But... 37 00:01:38,557 --> 00:01:41,018 A lot of people thought it was the laugh of the century, 38 00:01:41,059 --> 00:01:43,270 and a lot of other people thought it was the most crude 39 00:01:43,353 --> 00:01:45,147 and vulgar piece of stupidity... 40 00:01:45,230 --> 00:01:46,189 -Yes. -...they'd ever seen. 41 00:01:46,231 --> 00:01:47,858 I agree with the latter group. I do. 42 00:01:47,899 --> 00:01:49,443 But it made you a millionaire all the same. 43 00:01:49,526 --> 00:01:52,029 Yeah. I think... Yes, we did quite well at the box office. 44 00:01:52,112 --> 00:01:53,280 And now this sort of spoof, 45 00:01:53,363 --> 00:01:55,824 frightening, non-frightening comic Frankenstein. 46 00:01:55,907 --> 00:01:58,535 Why do you want to make a film about Frankenstein? 47 00:01:58,577 --> 00:01:59,745 How can Frankenstein be funny? 48 00:01:59,828 --> 00:02:01,371 Because the very essence of Frankenstein 49 00:02:01,455 --> 00:02:02,581 is that it's frightening. 50 00:02:02,664 --> 00:02:04,875 I mean, is yours frightening? 51 00:02:04,958 --> 00:02:07,628 It's only frightening when they're not laughing. 52 00:02:07,711 --> 00:02:09,379 -(THUNDER RUMBLING) -NARRATOR: It's coming. 53 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:10,672 ♪ (THRILLING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 54 00:02:10,756 --> 00:02:12,841 NARRATOR: From the deep, dark recesses 55 00:02:12,924 --> 00:02:15,135 of the mind of Mel Brooks. 56 00:02:15,218 --> 00:02:16,303 I love him. 57 00:02:16,762 --> 00:02:18,889 {\an8}(READING PROMPT) 58 00:02:18,930 --> 00:02:22,559 My name, it's pronounced Fronkensteen. 59 00:02:22,601 --> 00:02:23,602 CREW: Marker. 60 00:02:24,311 --> 00:02:25,312 And... 61 00:02:26,021 --> 00:02:27,064 action! 62 00:02:27,147 --> 00:02:30,609 Frankenstein Junior, un film extraordinaire. 63 00:02:30,692 --> 00:02:35,906 -Give my creation life! -(ELECTRICITY CRACKLING) 64 00:02:35,989 --> 00:02:39,076 MEL: Gene Wilder said, "I have this idea 65 00:02:39,117 --> 00:02:42,454 for a movie about Baron Frankenstein's grandson. 66 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:44,790 Young Frankenstein." 67 00:02:44,873 --> 00:02:46,249 Frankenstein? 68 00:02:46,291 --> 00:02:47,459 You're putting me on. 69 00:02:47,542 --> 00:02:50,087 I said, "That's a good idea. That's genius." 70 00:02:50,128 --> 00:02:52,130 GENE WILDER: He was preparing Blazing Saddles. 71 00:02:52,214 --> 00:02:53,423 It hadn't come out yet. 72 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:56,051 So when they offered him Young Frankenstein, 73 00:02:56,134 --> 00:02:58,428 and I would be doing the writing and he would supervise, 74 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:00,430 it was very tempting, and he said yes. 75 00:03:00,514 --> 00:03:01,723 To the castle! 76 00:03:01,765 --> 00:03:02,974 -The castle! -The castle! 77 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:04,434 -MEL: Each night... -To the ca... 78 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:06,144 -...after I finished... -To the ca... 79 00:03:06,228 --> 00:03:08,105 ...in the editing room on Blazing Saddles, 80 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:09,815 I'd go to Gene's hotel. 81 00:03:10,649 --> 00:03:12,275 We wrote and we rewrote 82 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:16,363 and wrote and rewrote and wrote and rewrote once again. 83 00:03:16,446 --> 00:03:18,782 DANA GOULD: Gene Wilder came to him with the idea. 84 00:03:18,824 --> 00:03:20,534 They collaborated on the script. 85 00:03:20,617 --> 00:03:23,954 {\an8}But one of the reasons that movie is so great 86 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:26,456 {\an8}is something that Mel brought to it, 87 00:03:26,498 --> 00:03:30,961 which was the slavish accuracy 88 00:03:31,002 --> 00:03:33,463 of the sets, the makeup, 89 00:03:33,547 --> 00:03:34,715 the cinematography. 90 00:03:35,507 --> 00:03:36,633 Knowing that he needs 91 00:03:36,675 --> 00:03:39,302 to play it straight as a heart attack up to here 92 00:03:39,386 --> 00:03:40,679 so this stuff can work. 93 00:03:40,762 --> 00:03:43,306 {\an8}-(THUNDER BOOMING) -It's alive! It's alive! 94 00:03:43,348 --> 00:03:44,683 {\an8}It's alive! 95 00:03:45,183 --> 00:03:47,561 It's alive! 96 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:49,396 JOHNNY CARSON: Why did you make this in black and white? 97 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:50,397 The crayons. 98 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,149 We lost all the crayons and... 99 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:53,400 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 100 00:03:53,483 --> 00:03:56,820 {\an8}No, we... Black and white because James Whale. 101 00:03:56,903 --> 00:03:59,364 {\an8}It's a valentine, really, to James Whale. 102 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:01,491 That body is not dead. 103 00:04:02,075 --> 00:04:03,577 It has never lived. 104 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:05,245 MEL: James Whale was the original director 105 00:04:05,328 --> 00:04:07,831 of the first Frankenstein film. 106 00:04:07,873 --> 00:04:11,585 I was five. I loved that movie. It scared the shit out of me. 107 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:12,586 (GROWLING) 108 00:04:12,669 --> 00:04:14,546 MEL: It etched itself into my mind, 109 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:16,006 and James Whale, 110 00:04:16,047 --> 00:04:18,383 he's just a brilliant, brilliant movie maker. 111 00:04:18,467 --> 00:04:20,260 (INDISTINCT CLAMOR) 112 00:04:20,343 --> 00:04:24,055 (SPEAKING INCOHERENTLY) ... a Frankenstein! 113 00:04:25,223 --> 00:04:26,433 CROWD: What? 114 00:04:26,516 --> 00:04:27,601 Tonight... 115 00:04:28,727 --> 00:04:31,688 we shall ascend into the heavens. 116 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:33,523 PATTON OSWALT: It was one of those situations 117 00:04:33,565 --> 00:04:34,691 like with Mad magazine, 118 00:04:34,733 --> 00:04:38,153 {\an8}where you see the parody before you see the originals 119 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:39,613 {\an8}and it kind of informs 120 00:04:39,696 --> 00:04:42,032 {\an8}how you look at the originals. 121 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:44,409 It's not because he's making fun of something he hates, 122 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:47,370 he's making fun of things he truly loves 123 00:04:47,412 --> 00:04:51,333 and you see that, oh, he got everything right 124 00:04:51,416 --> 00:04:53,335 about these movies. 125 00:04:53,376 --> 00:04:56,755 FREDERICK FRANKENSTEIN: Put the candle back. 126 00:05:02,719 --> 00:05:04,179 All right, 127 00:05:04,262 --> 00:05:06,181 I think I have it figured out now. 128 00:05:07,015 --> 00:05:08,892 Take out the candle, 129 00:05:08,934 --> 00:05:12,354 and I'll block the bookcase with my body. 130 00:05:17,526 --> 00:05:19,277 (LOUD CRASH) 131 00:05:22,948 --> 00:05:25,450 FRANKENSTEIN: (IN MUFFLED VOICE) Now listen to me very carefully. 132 00:05:25,534 --> 00:05:28,620 Don't put the candle back. 133 00:05:28,703 --> 00:05:30,288 {\an8}Because it looked so... 134 00:05:30,372 --> 00:05:32,958 {\an8}It was black and white, the look of it, and I was young, 135 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:34,751 I didn't understand it was a comedy 136 00:05:34,793 --> 00:05:36,670 until she tells Gene Wilder, 137 00:05:36,753 --> 00:05:38,463 "You haven't touched your food," and he goes... 138 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:41,341 Now I've touched it. 139 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:42,509 "There, I've touched it." 140 00:05:42,592 --> 00:05:44,261 (CHUCKLES) I was like... As a kid, you're like, 141 00:05:44,302 --> 00:05:45,595 "Oh, shit, he touched his food." 142 00:05:45,637 --> 00:05:48,807 {\an8}I did see Young Frankenstein. I was a little kid. 143 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:50,433 {\an8}And I went there with my brother. 144 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:52,143 We were at the... in my hometown, 145 00:05:52,227 --> 00:05:53,687 it was called the Jerry Lewis Theaters. 146 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:54,771 And we went there, 147 00:05:54,813 --> 00:05:56,690 and me and my brother stayed two in a row 148 00:05:56,773 --> 00:05:58,525 after Young Frankenstein. We saw it twice. 149 00:05:58,608 --> 00:05:59,693 (KNOCK ECHOING) 150 00:05:59,776 --> 00:06:02,195 ADAM SANDLER: It was the best. Couldn't believe it. 151 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,489 Asked my brother what knockers were. 152 00:06:04,573 --> 00:06:06,032 What knockers. 153 00:06:06,116 --> 00:06:07,158 Oh. 154 00:06:07,742 --> 00:06:08,952 Thank you, Doctor. 155 00:06:09,035 --> 00:06:10,620 I'm finding out what knockers are 156 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:13,331 and just coming home like, "Whoa. I love knockers." 157 00:06:13,415 --> 00:06:15,333 That brain that you gave me, 158 00:06:16,418 --> 00:06:19,337 was it Hans Delbrück's? 159 00:06:21,172 --> 00:06:22,382 -No. -Ah. 160 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:24,259 Good. 161 00:06:24,801 --> 00:06:25,927 Uh... 162 00:06:25,969 --> 00:06:27,804 Would you mind telling me... 163 00:06:29,764 --> 00:06:31,141 whose brain 164 00:06:32,017 --> 00:06:33,643 I did put in? 165 00:06:33,727 --> 00:06:34,978 And you won't be angry? 166 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:38,356 I will not be angry. 167 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:40,817 Abby someone. 168 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:42,903 -JOSH GAD: Gene Wilder... -Abby someone? 169 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:45,363 Abby who? 170 00:06:45,447 --> 00:06:47,198 Abby Normal. 171 00:06:47,282 --> 00:06:49,200 JOSH: He's so unpredictable. 172 00:06:49,701 --> 00:06:52,370 Abby Normal. 173 00:06:52,454 --> 00:06:56,374 {\an8}There's like this bubbling rage, 174 00:06:57,626 --> 00:06:59,002 {\an8}excitement. 175 00:06:59,044 --> 00:07:00,754 I'm almost sure that was the name. 176 00:07:01,254 --> 00:07:02,422 (CHUCKLES) 177 00:07:02,505 --> 00:07:05,050 JOSH: He is a little bit of a psychopath. 178 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:09,763 Are you saying that I put an abnormal brain 179 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:14,434 into a seven-and-a-half-foot long, 180 00:07:15,310 --> 00:07:18,563 54-inch wide... 181 00:07:19,481 --> 00:07:22,192 -(GASPING) -(SHOUTING) ...gorilla? 182 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:25,862 -(CHOKING) -Is that what you're telling me? 183 00:07:25,904 --> 00:07:28,865 -Quick, quick, give him the-- -INGA: What? 184 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:31,785 It's up there with some of the greatest performances 185 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:34,621 in any movie, in any genre. 186 00:07:34,704 --> 00:07:36,414 It's just tour de force. 187 00:07:36,498 --> 00:07:40,168 -(SPEAKING SPANISH) -♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 188 00:07:47,092 --> 00:07:48,093 -Yes! -♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC STING) ♪ 189 00:07:48,176 --> 00:07:49,260 And it was you 190 00:07:49,344 --> 00:07:51,471 who left my grandfather's book out for me to find. 191 00:07:51,554 --> 00:07:52,806 -Yes! -♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC STING) ♪ 192 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:56,434 I think it's the funniest thing I have ever been in in my life. 193 00:07:56,518 --> 00:07:58,061 Then you and Victor were... 194 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:01,398 Yes! Yes! Say it! 195 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:05,193 He was my boyfriend! 196 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:06,277 I was lucky. 197 00:08:06,361 --> 00:08:09,280 I found Cloris in a bar, half shy-- Yeah. 198 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:10,907 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -And... 199 00:08:10,949 --> 00:08:12,033 (APPLAUSE) 200 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:15,745 And... And then, you know, um... 201 00:08:15,787 --> 00:08:19,624 Gene told me about this Teri Garr person. 202 00:08:20,083 --> 00:08:21,334 Elevate me. 203 00:08:22,836 --> 00:08:24,421 Now, right here? 204 00:08:24,462 --> 00:08:27,257 I said, "She's absolutely beautiful. Can she act?" 205 00:08:27,298 --> 00:08:29,759 And Gene said-- Gene said, "Who gives a shit?" 206 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:30,802 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 207 00:08:30,885 --> 00:08:32,846 I thought I told you 208 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:36,016 never to interrupt me while I'm working! 209 00:08:36,099 --> 00:08:37,434 INTERVIEWER: What do you play in the film? 210 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,102 I play the part of Igor. 211 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:41,604 No, it's pronounced I-gor. 212 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:42,731 Actually, a hunchback. 213 00:08:42,814 --> 00:08:44,399 I don't have the hump with me at the moment. 214 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:45,859 Where's your hump? 215 00:08:46,943 --> 00:08:48,611 Never with tails. 216 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:52,657 -(BELL JINGLING) -(GROWLING) 217 00:08:52,741 --> 00:08:54,951 -Thank you, Lord. -MEL: When we were casting, 218 00:08:54,993 --> 00:08:56,786 Gene Wilder called me and said, 219 00:08:56,828 --> 00:08:58,455 "What do you think of Gene Hackman 220 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:00,498 for the blind man?" 221 00:09:00,582 --> 00:09:02,876 And I said, "What about Orson Welles for the squirrel?" 222 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:04,711 -You know... -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 223 00:09:04,794 --> 00:09:07,547 "What do you mean? Gene Hackman, he gets a million bucks. 224 00:09:07,630 --> 00:09:08,965 You can't... Gene Hackman." 225 00:09:09,049 --> 00:09:10,675 He said, "Gene Hackman wants to play it." 226 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:12,302 -Mm-hmm. -BLIND MAN: Wait. 227 00:09:12,385 --> 00:09:13,720 (SLURPING) 228 00:09:13,803 --> 00:09:14,929 A toast. 229 00:09:16,181 --> 00:09:20,101 A toast to, yes, long friendship. 230 00:09:20,143 --> 00:09:22,979 -(CUP CLATTERS) -(GROANS) 231 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:28,526 -How hungry you must have been. -(GRUNTS) 232 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:31,488 And now, and now, now for a little surprise. 233 00:09:31,529 --> 00:09:33,865 For a special occasion, I've been saving... 234 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:40,330 cigars. 235 00:09:40,371 --> 00:09:42,582 {\an8}I can't imagine making movies 236 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:44,375 {\an8}without having watched his movies, 237 00:09:44,459 --> 00:09:45,585 {\an8}because as a kid... 238 00:09:45,668 --> 00:09:47,462 Just hold it right there. 239 00:09:47,545 --> 00:09:48,922 ...Young Frankenstein... 240 00:09:49,005 --> 00:09:51,341 Don't inhale until the tip glows. 241 00:09:51,424 --> 00:09:53,635 ...it was just the funniest movie ever. 242 00:09:57,972 --> 00:10:00,016 (SCREAMS) 243 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:06,147 (GROANING LOUDLY IN PAIN) 244 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:08,191 (SCREAMING) 245 00:10:08,233 --> 00:10:10,527 When I went forward and started making stuff, 246 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:12,320 you know, that was sort of the vernacular. 247 00:10:12,403 --> 00:10:13,863 {\an8}MAURY BALLSTEIN: You're the laughingstock 248 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,323 {\an8}of the entire fashion world. 249 00:10:15,406 --> 00:10:17,534 {\an8}BEN STILLER: When I started on Zoolander, I think... 250 00:10:17,575 --> 00:10:21,371 What do we do when we fall off the horse? 251 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:24,541 ...Young Frankenstein was very clearly in my mind. 252 00:10:24,624 --> 00:10:26,626 We get back on. 253 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:30,255 Sorry, Maury. I'm not a gymnast. 254 00:10:31,422 --> 00:10:33,174 That's how I convinced myself 255 00:10:33,258 --> 00:10:34,676 how to commit to the tone, I was thinking, 256 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:35,885 "Well, if Mel Brooks could do that... 257 00:10:35,969 --> 00:10:36,970 (GROANING) 258 00:10:37,053 --> 00:10:39,889 -...I could try to do that." -Calm down. 259 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:42,225 BEN: And then I remember just like the sex jokes... 260 00:10:42,267 --> 00:10:43,351 I'm a... I... 261 00:10:43,434 --> 00:10:45,061 ...that were happening for a kid at that time. 262 00:10:45,103 --> 00:10:46,187 Oh, my God. 263 00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:47,564 Woof! 264 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:49,232 Like, I remember it was very confusing 265 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:50,441 when Frankenstein, 266 00:10:50,525 --> 00:10:52,443 when Peter Boyle would get aroused. 267 00:10:52,527 --> 00:10:55,238 I'm engaged. And once, he took my... 268 00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:57,740 But I didn't... It was never... All the... 269 00:10:57,782 --> 00:11:01,744 (MOANS) Oh, I... (MOANING) 270 00:11:01,828 --> 00:11:06,124 (SINGING) ♪ Oh, sweet mystery of life ♪ 271 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:09,169 ♪ At last I found you ♪ 272 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:11,838 -MEL: And action! -(GROWLING) 273 00:11:11,921 --> 00:11:13,548 BEN: And I've seen some of the outtakes. 274 00:11:13,631 --> 00:11:14,799 (GROWLING) 275 00:11:14,883 --> 00:11:16,843 -Stop that! Now just stop that. -BEN: You know, it's so much fun 276 00:11:16,926 --> 00:11:18,094 to see them cracking each other up. 277 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:19,220 Drop it! 278 00:11:19,304 --> 00:11:22,390 (CAST LAUGHING) 279 00:11:22,473 --> 00:11:25,226 But there was an incredible commitment... 280 00:11:25,310 --> 00:11:27,478 -(ROARS) -...to the genre. 281 00:11:27,562 --> 00:11:29,189 Everybody was playing it so real. 282 00:11:29,272 --> 00:11:32,025 Let me out. Let me out of here. Get me the hell out of here. 283 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:33,776 And for the next, like, 20 years, 284 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:35,028 it affected everything. 285 00:11:35,111 --> 00:11:38,198 -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -MEL: And action! 286 00:11:38,281 --> 00:11:40,200 FRANKENSTEIN: Five, six, seven, eight. 287 00:11:40,283 --> 00:11:41,576 MEL: The one thing I wouldn't do... 288 00:11:41,618 --> 00:11:43,286 Ladies and gentlemen, up until now you've seen... 289 00:11:43,369 --> 00:11:45,121 ...with Young Frankenstein was "Putting on the Ritz." 290 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:47,248 ...the creature perform the simple mechanics of motor activity. 291 00:11:47,332 --> 00:11:48,541 MEL: He thought it was a great idea. 292 00:11:48,625 --> 00:11:50,376 I said, "No, it will tear it. 293 00:11:51,044 --> 00:11:52,337 It's over the top." 294 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:54,047 Into the realm of genius. 295 00:11:54,923 --> 00:11:56,132 GENE: And Mel said... 296 00:11:56,174 --> 00:11:57,467 May I now present 297 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:59,510 a cultured, sophisticated 298 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:01,971 man about town. 299 00:12:03,181 --> 00:12:04,807 "Are you crazy? 300 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:06,142 You're going to have all of our work 301 00:12:06,184 --> 00:12:07,352 go down the drain?" 302 00:12:07,435 --> 00:12:10,146 And I argued why it was valid. 303 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:13,233 I was close to rage and tears. 304 00:12:13,316 --> 00:12:16,486 And right in mid-sentence, Mel says, “Okay, it's in.” 305 00:12:18,905 --> 00:12:21,157 And I didn't know if he was joking or not. 306 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:23,910 And I said, “What do you mean?” He says, “It's in.” 307 00:12:25,578 --> 00:12:27,372 “What, why did you put me through this?” 308 00:12:27,455 --> 00:12:29,832 And he said, “I wasn't sure 309 00:12:29,874 --> 00:12:32,460 if it was right or terribly wrong. 310 00:12:32,543 --> 00:12:33,670 I didn't know. 311 00:12:33,711 --> 00:12:36,089 And I wanted to see how hard you'd fight for it. 312 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:37,382 And I knew if you fought hard enough, 313 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:38,633 it was right. 314 00:12:39,384 --> 00:12:40,718 And you did. So it's in.” 315 00:12:40,802 --> 00:12:42,220 And it was never mentioned again. 316 00:12:42,303 --> 00:12:44,347 ♪ If you're blue And you don't know ♪ 317 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:45,640 ♪ Where to go to ♪ 318 00:12:45,682 --> 00:12:48,142 ♪ Why don't you go Where fashion sits? ♪ 319 00:12:49,394 --> 00:12:51,562 (IN STRAINED VOICE) ♪ Putting on the Ritz ♪ 320 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:55,191 ♪ Different types Who wear a day coat ♪ 321 00:12:55,233 --> 00:12:57,193 ♪ Pants with stripes Or cutaway coat ♪ 322 00:12:57,277 --> 00:12:58,611 ♪ Perfect fits ♪ 323 00:13:00,113 --> 00:13:02,240 (IN STRAINED VOICE) ♪ Putting on the Ritz ♪ 324 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:04,575 ♪ Dressed up like a... ♪ 325 00:13:04,659 --> 00:13:06,828 In one year, 1974, 326 00:13:07,745 --> 00:13:10,206 Blazing Saddles and Young Frank-- 327 00:13:10,248 --> 00:13:13,376 both of them number one in movie charts. 328 00:13:13,418 --> 00:13:14,460 It was just... 329 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:17,714 it was a miracle year, 1974. 330 00:13:17,797 --> 00:13:19,632 Very good for me. 331 00:13:19,716 --> 00:13:21,926 Not so good for Richard Nixon. 332 00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:24,387 (IN STRAINED VOICE) ♪ Putting on the Ritz ♪ 333 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:26,306 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 334 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:30,435 NICHOLAS BROOKS: When Blazing Saddles 335 00:13:30,518 --> 00:13:31,769 and Young Frank hit, 336 00:13:31,853 --> 00:13:34,105 it transformed my dad 337 00:13:35,023 --> 00:13:37,317 from "Mel Who" or... 338 00:13:37,942 --> 00:13:40,069 {\an8}"I... I think I know you," 339 00:13:40,778 --> 00:13:42,655 {\an8}to "Mel Brooks." 340 00:13:42,739 --> 00:13:45,408 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 341 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:48,077 NICHOLAS: But for our family, 342 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:52,415 those movies changed the picture entirely. 343 00:13:52,457 --> 00:13:57,128 Because when he went out to L.A. to work on Blazing Saddles, 344 00:13:57,211 --> 00:13:58,504 he moved out there. 345 00:14:00,631 --> 00:14:02,842 Max was two or something like that 346 00:14:02,925 --> 00:14:04,594 when they moved. 347 00:14:04,635 --> 00:14:07,847 But, you know, my dad had been this presence, 348 00:14:07,930 --> 00:14:10,099 this physical presence in our lives, 349 00:14:10,141 --> 00:14:12,018 and then suddenly the visits stopped. 350 00:14:13,644 --> 00:14:16,105 I think for a while I was a little angry. 351 00:14:16,147 --> 00:14:20,818 Occasionally he would fly in, or we would fly out to L.A., 352 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:22,028 but, um, 353 00:14:22,111 --> 00:14:25,823 it wasn't the same rhythm of connection. 354 00:14:27,742 --> 00:14:31,871 ♪ (UPBEAT JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 355 00:14:35,375 --> 00:14:36,667 Mel Brooks. 356 00:14:46,969 --> 00:14:49,013 MAX BROOKS: The truth about my childhood was 357 00:14:49,097 --> 00:14:51,599 it was an immigrant community. 358 00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:53,643 {\an8}Immigrants to California. 359 00:14:53,684 --> 00:14:56,938 {\an8}Most of them were also first-generation Americans. 360 00:14:57,021 --> 00:14:58,648 So it really was about people 361 00:14:58,731 --> 00:15:00,191 setting up a life 362 00:15:01,067 --> 00:15:02,443 in this new city. 363 00:15:04,112 --> 00:15:06,656 But anxiety was constant. 364 00:15:06,697 --> 00:15:09,117 And I think part of it was when you spend 365 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,493 your formative years with nothing, 366 00:15:10,535 --> 00:15:11,536 you assume 367 00:15:11,619 --> 00:15:13,371 that the nothing is always there. 368 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:14,831 So there was always that fear 369 00:15:14,872 --> 00:15:16,499 that it was going to be taken away. 370 00:15:16,541 --> 00:15:18,209 And it was the 1970s. 371 00:15:18,292 --> 00:15:19,252 This is when 372 00:15:19,335 --> 00:15:21,170 a whole new generation of celebrities around them 373 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:23,172 sometimes got caught up in the bad press. 374 00:15:23,256 --> 00:15:25,591 So my parents were very much about, 375 00:15:25,675 --> 00:15:27,343 "Be careful who you associate with. 376 00:15:27,427 --> 00:15:28,886 Know people, trust people. 377 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,139 It's always better to have a few very close, 378 00:15:31,222 --> 00:15:32,515 deep friendships." 379 00:15:32,598 --> 00:15:35,393 Where the hell are you going? Here, there... 380 00:15:35,476 --> 00:15:36,978 MAX: But my dad was always my dad. 381 00:15:37,061 --> 00:15:40,022 Why are you so busy? Why don't you stand still? 382 00:15:40,064 --> 00:15:42,024 MAX: And I got extremely lucky that 383 00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:44,402 the kind of craziness that you see 384 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:46,070 in the character of Mel Brooks 385 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:48,030 was exactly what I got at home. 386 00:15:48,072 --> 00:15:49,782 INTERVIEWER: I know your mother lives on Miami Beach. 387 00:15:49,866 --> 00:15:51,159 Would you like to say hello? 388 00:15:51,242 --> 00:15:53,119 Hello, Mother. How are you? 389 00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:55,329 Hello. And my brother Lenny lives in Fort Lauderdale. 390 00:15:55,413 --> 00:15:56,998 Leonard Kaminsky. Hello, Leonard. 391 00:15:57,081 --> 00:15:59,542 Thank you for-- Thank you for for not changing the name. 392 00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:01,085 Somebody had to keep the name. 393 00:16:01,169 --> 00:16:02,837 And my mother, Kate Kaminsky. 394 00:16:03,337 --> 00:16:04,422 Oh, wait a minute. 395 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:07,216 Can you bring the camera down a little bit? Look at me. 396 00:16:07,258 --> 00:16:10,219 Now that's a little better. Hello, Mom. Now she can see me. 397 00:16:10,261 --> 00:16:12,221 Hello, Mom. How are you? I love you. 398 00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:14,390 Thanks. Thanks for producing me. 399 00:16:14,474 --> 00:16:15,808 (CREW LAUGHING) 400 00:16:16,934 --> 00:16:18,227 JUDD: How long did your mom live? 401 00:16:18,311 --> 00:16:19,812 MEL: Not bad. Ninety-two. 402 00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:21,439 JUDD: So, she got to see it all. 403 00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:22,940 MEL: She got to see a lot of it. 404 00:16:23,024 --> 00:16:25,067 How excited about your career was she? 405 00:16:25,151 --> 00:16:26,235 MEL: She was very excited. 406 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:28,529 -Every time I won something... -JUDD: Mm-hmm. 407 00:16:28,613 --> 00:16:31,324 ...whether it was an Emmy or an Oscar, 408 00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:33,201 or whatever that I won, 409 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:35,411 I would send it to her. 410 00:16:35,453 --> 00:16:36,496 Yeah. 411 00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:38,247 MEL: She'd put it on her TV set. 412 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:41,417 The whole building would come through her apartment, 413 00:16:41,501 --> 00:16:43,252 she served tea and cookies, 414 00:16:43,294 --> 00:16:45,171 -to see the Emmy or whatever. -Yeah. 415 00:16:45,254 --> 00:16:47,298 And I once went down there. 416 00:16:47,381 --> 00:16:51,010 I had a very strange, very weird, strange incident. 417 00:16:51,636 --> 00:16:52,970 Anne and I went down, 418 00:16:53,054 --> 00:16:57,308 and I hired a big, beautiful Lincoln Town Car. 419 00:16:57,892 --> 00:16:59,727 This car... (LAUGHS) 420 00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:01,145 It makes me laugh. 421 00:17:02,647 --> 00:17:04,273 This car pulls up, 422 00:17:04,315 --> 00:17:06,692 and the driver's wearing a little cap. 423 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:08,444 And he says to me, 424 00:17:08,528 --> 00:17:09,570 "Who you got?" 425 00:17:09,654 --> 00:17:10,780 (JUDD CHUCKLES) 426 00:17:10,821 --> 00:17:11,822 I said, 427 00:17:12,490 --> 00:17:13,658 "What do you mean?" 428 00:17:14,909 --> 00:17:16,369 "Who you driving? Who you got?" 429 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:18,955 And I said, "Oh." I got it right away, 430 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:21,082 so I said, "Mel Brooks." 431 00:17:21,165 --> 00:17:23,000 -He said, "Wow... -(JUDD CHUCKLLES) 432 00:17:23,084 --> 00:17:24,168 ... Mel Brooks. 433 00:17:24,252 --> 00:17:26,337 Is he a good tipper?" I said, "The best." 434 00:17:26,420 --> 00:17:27,797 (MEL AND JUDD CHUCKLING) 435 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,465 ♪ (SOFT PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 436 00:17:29,507 --> 00:17:31,634 MEL: I started life as a drummer. 437 00:17:31,717 --> 00:17:33,427 I'm sorry I stopped. 438 00:17:33,511 --> 00:17:35,221 Because it was the best and the loudest way 439 00:17:35,304 --> 00:17:37,139 of calling attention to myself. 440 00:17:37,223 --> 00:17:38,307 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 441 00:17:38,349 --> 00:17:41,644 MEL: But I think I'm primarily an observer of life 442 00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:45,314 who formalizes the observations by writing them down. 443 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:48,693 Some of us have no ego or other need 444 00:17:48,776 --> 00:17:51,487 to tell anybody else about those observations. 445 00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:55,283 But I needed to pronounce myself. 446 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,202 A film has to be about something. 447 00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:00,663 I used a western to say other things. 448 00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:04,166 I did use Young Frankenstein to say a lot of other things. 449 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:05,793 Everything I have to say, 450 00:18:05,876 --> 00:18:08,629 every serious comment I have to make 451 00:18:08,713 --> 00:18:11,340 on the human condition, our behavior, 452 00:18:11,382 --> 00:18:13,509 I can make through comedy. 453 00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:16,012 Um, now I'm going to tell you something 454 00:18:16,053 --> 00:18:18,014 I shouldn't tell you. 455 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,349 There's a girl in Cleveland, her name is Sheila. 456 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:21,642 No, no, I made-- That-- 457 00:18:21,726 --> 00:18:23,853 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 458 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:27,857 Is this sort of humor of yours, is it a fixture or is it a fad? 459 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:30,651 I hope... (CLEARS THROAT) ...that my contribution, 460 00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:32,528 cinematically, comically, to the world 461 00:18:32,570 --> 00:18:34,071 will be durable. 462 00:18:34,155 --> 00:18:35,531 As a matter of fact, 463 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:38,868 um, comedy as an art form is not saluted, really. 464 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:41,078 The Academy Awards, they-- 465 00:18:41,162 --> 00:18:43,372 it's Towering Inferno time, do you know what I mean? 466 00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:44,707 And, uh, 467 00:18:44,749 --> 00:18:47,209 comedy is never even listed as the best picture. 468 00:18:47,293 --> 00:18:50,713 And the ones, the films that seem to live 469 00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:52,673 for 40 or 50 years 470 00:18:52,757 --> 00:18:53,883 are comedies, 471 00:18:53,924 --> 00:18:55,551 are the Chaplin, the great Chaplin comedies 472 00:18:55,593 --> 00:18:56,552 and W. C. Fields and-- 473 00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:58,179 INTERVIEWER: What's the title of your next film? 474 00:18:58,262 --> 00:19:00,056 Silent Movie Madness. 475 00:19:00,097 --> 00:19:02,141 And that's completely silent? 476 00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:04,060 It's a very noisy silent movie. 477 00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:07,104 {\an8}♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 478 00:19:07,188 --> 00:19:08,731 {\an8}MEL: Gene Wilder was busy, 479 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:11,859 so I said, I'll split leading men. 480 00:19:11,942 --> 00:19:13,653 It'll be me, Marty Feldman, 481 00:19:13,736 --> 00:19:15,321 and Dom DeLuise. 482 00:19:17,198 --> 00:19:20,034 I even stuck Sid Caesar in the movie. 483 00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:21,327 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 484 00:19:32,213 --> 00:19:34,090 MEL: Silent Movie made a curious comment 485 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,091 on Hollywood, 486 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,593 on the usurpation and the swallowing up 487 00:19:37,635 --> 00:19:40,888 of small artistic film studios 488 00:19:40,971 --> 00:19:43,307 by corporate giants 489 00:19:43,391 --> 00:19:45,101 who make baked potatoes, 490 00:19:45,142 --> 00:19:48,145 rubber tires, and movies. 491 00:19:50,815 --> 00:19:52,274 So Silent Movie gives me a chance to vent 492 00:19:52,358 --> 00:19:55,152 my hatred for these corporate pirates. 493 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:11,335 {\an8}Mel wrote a book a couple of years ago 494 00:20:11,419 --> 00:20:12,795 {\an8}and he gave me credit 495 00:20:12,837 --> 00:20:15,297 {\an8}for bringing him the idea for his silent movie. 496 00:20:16,048 --> 00:20:17,133 He also said 497 00:20:17,174 --> 00:20:18,634 he had a stroke of genius 498 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:21,011 when he thought of Marcel Marceau. 499 00:20:21,345 --> 00:20:22,388 Non! 500 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:24,557 RON CLARK: So I called him. 501 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,475 I said, "Mel, you mentioned 502 00:20:26,517 --> 00:20:29,145 Marcel Marceau as your idea. 503 00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:30,312 Don't you remember 504 00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:33,149 that when I had the idea for the film, 505 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:35,651 it was... Marceau was the key?" 506 00:20:36,527 --> 00:20:38,028 And he said... 507 00:20:38,112 --> 00:20:39,822 He said, "It was such a good idea. 508 00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:41,407 I figured it had to be mine." 509 00:20:42,158 --> 00:20:44,368 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 510 00:20:44,452 --> 00:20:47,496 JUDD: Was it fun to suddenly be the lead of the movies? 511 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:51,500 MEL: It was great. It was great. I was so happy. 512 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,794 JUDD: I mean, I was trying to explain to my daughter 513 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,212 that era this morning. 514 00:20:55,296 --> 00:20:57,339 I was like, "Mel Brooks in that moment 515 00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:59,592 -was like Beyoncé." -MEL: Yeah. 516 00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:01,927 JUDD: You became the superstar. 517 00:21:02,011 --> 00:21:03,596 (APPLAUSE) 518 00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:05,014 Will you take your seat, please. 519 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:06,682 (MEL MUMBLING INDISTINCTLY) 520 00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:07,808 It's all right. 521 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:09,351 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 522 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:11,187 -Just a joke. -Okay. 523 00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:12,605 You have fans all over the world. 524 00:21:12,688 --> 00:21:15,983 They're waiting every year to see a new Mel Brooks film. 525 00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:17,359 But you take such a long time 526 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:18,694 -to make a film. -Well, you know... 527 00:21:18,736 --> 00:21:19,779 INTERVIEWER: Where is it? 528 00:21:19,862 --> 00:21:22,031 -To make a good film... -INTERVIEWER: How do you do it? 529 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,200 To make a good film, here, here's how you do it. 530 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:25,576 You take... You're... you're doing it-- 531 00:21:25,659 --> 00:21:27,453 You take your sugar, you take it like this, 532 00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:28,704 put it all together. 533 00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:30,706 Then the bones tell you. 534 00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:33,542 (IN EXAGGERATED YIDDISH ACCENT) Yes, yes, a gypsy. 535 00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:35,836 I do a film, a gypsy. 536 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,547 The government... There's two governments. 537 00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:41,550 The French government, Romanian government, 538 00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:43,719 Hungarian government. 539 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:45,638 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -Here is three government. 540 00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:49,558 I take the government, I make a film. I make three government. 541 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,186 The common market is a government. 542 00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,980 (IN NORMAL VOICE) See, it's more complicated than that, I assure you. 543 00:21:55,064 --> 00:21:58,317 What I'm trying to illustrate in the very comic sense is 544 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,862 that the planning of a film is often the largest part of it. 545 00:22:01,946 --> 00:22:03,239 That is the writing. 546 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,365 A concept, 547 00:22:05,115 --> 00:22:06,450 uh, captured in a script 548 00:22:06,534 --> 00:22:08,202 is the most important part of a film. 549 00:22:08,285 --> 00:22:11,080 The rest of it is important too, 550 00:22:11,121 --> 00:22:13,624 -but the script is 90 percent. -Yeah. 551 00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:15,084 Yeah, I know a lot. I've been around. 552 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,752 -I'm very sophisticated. -Are you sure? 553 00:22:16,794 --> 00:22:18,295 Yes, I drink white wine with fish. 554 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:19,922 -I know everything. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 555 00:22:19,964 --> 00:22:23,259 {\an8}There's nothing more delicate in certain ways than a comedy. 556 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,094 I mean, it's very delicate, 557 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:27,680 'cause you can take a particular joke, 558 00:22:27,763 --> 00:22:29,682 and if it's not presented in the proper way, 559 00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:30,891 it doesn't work. 560 00:22:30,933 --> 00:22:32,643 ♪ (PLAYFUL TUNE PLAYING) ♪ 561 00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:34,728 BARRY LEVINSON: I'd say on one particular gag 562 00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:39,066 in Silent Movie, I think we must have recut it 563 00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:40,901 -about ten times. -(CHOMPS) 564 00:22:40,985 --> 00:22:42,862 -(LOUD BOING ECHOING) -(SMOOCHES) 565 00:22:42,945 --> 00:22:43,946 (SOFT BOING ECHOING) 566 00:22:43,988 --> 00:22:46,115 You know, it's a little laugh. It's not big enough. 567 00:22:46,156 --> 00:22:47,283 It's a big laugh. 568 00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:48,909 -There's a big laugh here. -(SPRINGS BOINGING) 569 00:22:48,993 --> 00:22:51,453 And then he would go, "What about," et cetera, 570 00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:52,621 and then suddenly... 571 00:22:53,455 --> 00:22:55,624 ♪ (MUSIC STOPS ABRUPTLY) ♪ 572 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:56,917 There it was. 573 00:22:57,001 --> 00:22:58,502 Not a little... (CHUCKLES HALF-HEARTEDLY) 574 00:22:58,586 --> 00:22:59,628 JUDD: Yeah. 575 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:01,255 (CHUCKLES) You know, he always... 576 00:23:01,338 --> 00:23:02,298 He wanted... 577 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:04,300 "I want to see people doubled up, 578 00:23:04,383 --> 00:23:05,926 that they can't breathe." 579 00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:10,472 {\an8}I do remember once on High Anxiety, 580 00:23:10,514 --> 00:23:12,474 {\an8}I was thinking in terms of Psycho. 581 00:23:12,558 --> 00:23:14,018 (GLASS SHATTERING) 582 00:23:14,101 --> 00:23:16,353 Do you fellas want to see your rooms or not? 583 00:23:16,437 --> 00:23:18,147 Barry Levinson, who looks just like you, 584 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:19,648 -I swear to God. -Yeah? 585 00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,191 Barry Levinson, who is the bellboy. 586 00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:23,569 Here's your key. I'll bring your bag in a minute. 587 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:24,862 He's the bellboy in the hotel, 588 00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:26,989 and he attacks me in the shower, like Psycho. 589 00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,158 I was making fun of it one day, 590 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,161 and I was saying, like-- the bellhop was going... 591 00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:33,412 (HIGH-PITCHED SCREAMS) 592 00:23:33,495 --> 00:23:34,872 (HIGH-PITCHED SCREAMS) 593 00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,874 (HIGH-PITCHED SCREAMS) With the newspaper... 594 00:23:36,957 --> 00:23:40,210 (SCREAMS) Here’s your paper, here’s your paper, 595 00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:41,962 here’s your paper! 596 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,216 (SCREAMING) Happy now? Happy? Happy now? 597 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:49,887 BARRY: If it was a worthwhile idea, 598 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:51,305 then he would run with it. 599 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:53,432 If it wasn't, 600 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:55,434 then you'd move on to something else. 601 00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,103 But he was very open to that. 602 00:23:59,688 --> 00:24:01,982 That kid gets no tip. 603 00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:03,359 BARRY: We didn't just write it. 604 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,486 We were there on the set when it was being shot. 605 00:24:05,569 --> 00:24:08,030 So we were there every day of the shoot. 606 00:24:08,072 --> 00:24:09,782 There'd be a moment and you thought, 607 00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:12,034 "Well, maybe that could be better," you know, 608 00:24:12,117 --> 00:24:13,702 and you go over to Mel, 609 00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,371 "Mel, I was wondering..." 610 00:24:15,412 --> 00:24:18,832 And then he would go like, "Hold it, we're not moving on. 611 00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:21,001 Barry's not happy." 612 00:24:21,085 --> 00:24:23,379 You know, and so you feel embarrassed. 613 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:24,421 (CHUCKLES) 614 00:24:24,505 --> 00:24:25,923 ANNE BANCROFT: What kind of roles do you think 615 00:24:26,006 --> 00:24:28,550 you would have gotten if you weren't writing your own? 616 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:29,885 MEL: Oh, my favorite roll 617 00:24:29,927 --> 00:24:31,553 would be the King of Germany, the Kaiser roll. 618 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:33,722 -(ANNE LAUGHS) -MEL: That would be-- No. 619 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,891 ♪ (PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 620 00:24:37,101 --> 00:24:40,229 ♪ High anxiety... ♪ 621 00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:43,190 I made myself a leading man in High Anxiety 622 00:24:43,232 --> 00:24:45,567 because I always wanted to imitate Frank Sinatra. 623 00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:49,071 ♪ High anxiety... ♪ 624 00:24:49,154 --> 00:24:52,282 I guess I made myself a leading man because... 625 00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:54,702 in real life I knew I could never be a leading man. 626 00:24:54,785 --> 00:24:57,997 ♪ My heart's afraid to fly ♪ 627 00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:01,291 ♪ It's crashed before ♪ 628 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:05,713 ♪ But then you take my hand ♪ 629 00:25:06,672 --> 00:25:12,219 ♪ My heart starts To soar once more ♪ 630 00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:14,096 ♪ High anxiety... ♪ 631 00:25:14,138 --> 00:25:16,140 JUDD: Where you grew up, there weren't a lot of Jewish kids. 632 00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,100 So, what did it mean 633 00:25:18,142 --> 00:25:20,936 that there was the guy like Mel out there, 634 00:25:20,978 --> 00:25:23,230 just this Jewish performer, writer, 635 00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,190 director, producer? 636 00:25:25,274 --> 00:25:30,362 There's not anybody our age or up 637 00:25:30,446 --> 00:25:33,699 that didn't have the pride of Mel being Jewish 638 00:25:33,782 --> 00:25:34,992 and being like, 639 00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:37,494 "You know that dude you quote all the time? 640 00:25:37,578 --> 00:25:38,662 He's one of us." 641 00:25:38,746 --> 00:25:39,830 ♪ High anxiety... ♪ 642 00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:42,458 SARAH SILVERMAN: I had just never seen anything like it. 643 00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:44,668 {\an8}You know, like being Jewish in a lot of communities 644 00:25:44,752 --> 00:25:47,129 {\an8}is like something that you come out. 645 00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:50,215 {\an8}It's almost like being gay, you know, like, uh... 646 00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:52,426 to be... 647 00:25:53,594 --> 00:25:57,556 proud of it, it would be-- is like-- seems crazy. 648 00:25:57,639 --> 00:26:00,434 {\an8}He was so Jewish, but he was kind of cool. 649 00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:02,061 {\an8}Like, he was cooler to me than, 650 00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:03,479 {\an8}like, Woody Allen, 651 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:06,607 uh, for any number of reasons. 652 00:26:07,357 --> 00:26:09,318 But, um... (CHUCKLES) 653 00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:12,154 He didn't... You know, he looked the way he looked, 654 00:26:12,196 --> 00:26:15,824 but he had so much charisma and he was very confident. 655 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,493 That's the thing I got from him. 656 00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:18,744 He was super confident, 657 00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:21,663 and he had no problem going for it. 658 00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:23,123 MEL: ♪ That I blame... ♪ 659 00:26:23,207 --> 00:26:24,500 Mel was the kind of guy 660 00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,335 that you felt like Sinatra would be like, 661 00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:29,088 “Holy shit. Let me say hi to Mel Brooks, man.” 662 00:26:29,171 --> 00:26:30,172 He just was the shit. 663 00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:32,466 ♪ I've got to give in ♪ 664 00:26:34,218 --> 00:26:38,013 ♪ High anxiety ♪ 665 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,682 And remember, folks, be good to your parents. 666 00:26:40,766 --> 00:26:42,351 They've been good to you. 667 00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:49,066 ♪ You win ♪ 668 00:26:49,149 --> 00:26:51,235 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 669 00:26:58,075 --> 00:27:00,661 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 670 00:27:02,371 --> 00:27:05,624 DINAH SHORE: I didn't talk to you about working in a movie with Mel. 671 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:07,376 ANNE: For years, we never wanted to work together, 672 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:08,794 'cause we thought it would be terrible. 673 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:10,337 -♪ (MUSIC CUTS OFF) ♪ -(SHUFFLING) 674 00:27:10,379 --> 00:27:13,632 It wound up being two weeks, the happiest of my whole life, 675 00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:15,217 'cause I loved working with him. 676 00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,885 -Yeah? -Oh, I... Yes, I just loved it. 677 00:27:16,969 --> 00:27:19,096 You hear that, honey? Write me a part. (CHUCKLES) 678 00:27:19,179 --> 00:27:24,852 ♪ (TANGO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 679 00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:26,937 (CHUCKLES SOFTLY) 680 00:27:48,709 --> 00:27:49,835 (CRASHING) 681 00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:52,504 (LAUGHING) 682 00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,883 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 683 00:28:00,387 --> 00:28:03,432 MEL: (CHUCKLES) Oh, God. 684 00:28:03,473 --> 00:28:04,808 It's hard for me to watch her. 685 00:28:04,892 --> 00:28:06,143 She was so good. 686 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:15,569 Look at her eyes. She does it. 687 00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:16,904 She matches him. 688 00:28:16,987 --> 00:28:17,988 She's amazing. 689 00:28:21,491 --> 00:28:23,118 And she did that as a favor to me. 690 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,120 -JUDD: Yeah. (CHUCKLES) -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 691 00:28:25,204 --> 00:28:27,372 That's probably why you fell in love with Annie. 692 00:28:27,456 --> 00:28:28,957 You didn't know that she could do that weird... 693 00:28:29,041 --> 00:28:31,668 No, it's true. I found that out much later in our marriage. 694 00:28:31,752 --> 00:28:33,295 One day, she was putting on her makeup, 695 00:28:33,337 --> 00:28:35,714 and I was like, you know how men like to do that, 696 00:28:35,797 --> 00:28:37,716 to watch how they do it so they can do it later 697 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,551 -when women go out of town. -JOHNNY: That's right. 698 00:28:39,635 --> 00:28:41,470 So, I was... 699 00:28:41,511 --> 00:28:43,472 I was watching, and she was doing everything, 700 00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,015 and then suddenly she did that. 701 00:28:45,098 --> 00:28:47,059 She crossed her eyes, and I said, 702 00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:48,393 "One day I'm going to do a movie, 703 00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:49,978 and you're going to do that in the movie." 704 00:28:50,020 --> 00:28:51,688 And she said, "Oh yeah, sure." You know. 705 00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:53,148 -JOHNNY: And she did it. -And she did it, 706 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:54,900 and it was really incredible. We couldn't believe it. 707 00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:56,735 Marty couldn't believe it. Marty Feldman, 708 00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:58,946 who has one eye-- one in Chicago, one in Cincinnati. 709 00:28:59,029 --> 00:29:01,698 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 710 00:29:01,782 --> 00:29:03,992 -Oh! -Oh my goodness. 711 00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:06,328 -(APPLAUSE) -Anne Bancroft. 712 00:29:06,370 --> 00:29:09,122 -(WHOOPS) -(APPLAUSE CONTINUES) 713 00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:10,791 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 714 00:29:10,874 --> 00:29:13,502 -Are you coming for dinner? Yes. -Yes! 715 00:29:13,543 --> 00:29:15,170 -Did you see... -Anne Bancroft! 716 00:29:15,212 --> 00:29:16,338 Did you see me? 717 00:29:16,421 --> 00:29:18,131 (LAUGHING) 718 00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:23,637 I mean, all of you out there who are married know. 719 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:26,098 This is the first time we've ever been on television together. 720 00:29:26,181 --> 00:29:27,516 No. No, on The Carson Show 721 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:28,892 they always point to you in your seat. 722 00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:31,353 But never talking like this, and close like this. 723 00:29:31,436 --> 00:29:33,689 -We don't allow you. No, no, no. -Never. Yes. 724 00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:35,357 -(INTERVIEWER SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) -This is history. 725 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,484 -Yes, history. -My darling. 726 00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:39,736 -(LAUGHING) -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 727 00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:42,239 INTERVIEWER: You didn't know that your wife was coming on here, did you? 728 00:29:42,322 --> 00:29:45,409 I had no idea. I had no idea my wife was coming on, 729 00:29:45,492 --> 00:29:47,119 but it's always a pleasure to see my wife. 730 00:29:47,202 --> 00:29:48,662 You want to do, uh... 731 00:29:48,745 --> 00:29:50,205 -What was the-- -(LAUGHS) Oh, no! 732 00:29:50,289 --> 00:29:52,207 No, what was the big one we used to do years ago? 733 00:29:52,249 --> 00:29:53,250 The, uh... 734 00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:54,793 ♪ They say They're falling in love ♪ 735 00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:56,712 -We never did that. -No, no, no. Uh... 736 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,923 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -♪ (SCATS MUSIC NOTES) ♪ 737 00:30:00,007 --> 00:30:01,717 ♪ (VOCALISING) ♪ 738 00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:03,051 Oh, that's so-- That key is so high. 739 00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:05,762 -That's your other wife. -That's-- No, no. 740 00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:08,223 Now, we can do a little of "Bells Are Ringing." 741 00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:09,975 (CLEARS THROAT) Okay, here we go. 742 00:30:11,184 --> 00:30:12,894 -♪ The-- ♪ -♪ The bells are ♪ 743 00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:15,230 -It's me. It's my part. -You did... But I'll do the... 744 00:30:15,314 --> 00:30:16,606 We got a microphone here. 745 00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:18,608 You mean I've been doing this without a microphone? 746 00:30:18,692 --> 00:30:19,818 No, no. But you're in here. 747 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:20,902 ♪ The bell ♪ 748 00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:25,532 (BOTH) ♪ The bells are ringing ♪ 749 00:30:25,615 --> 00:30:29,911 ♪ For me and my gal ♪ 750 00:30:29,995 --> 00:30:34,416 -♪ The birds are singing ♪ -♪ Singing ♪ 751 00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:38,712 (BOTH) ♪ For me and my gal ♪ 752 00:30:38,795 --> 00:30:40,589 INTERVIEWER: This is the end of the doubles match 753 00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:42,924 which pitted Penny Marshall and Mel Brooks 754 00:30:42,966 --> 00:30:45,761 against Carl Reiner and guess who? 755 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:47,137 (EXCLAIMS) 756 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:49,598 (CHEERING) 757 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:52,142 UMPIRE: Point, set, match. 758 00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:53,602 Marshall and Brooks, 759 00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:57,773 they win four games to three in the tiebreaker. 760 00:30:57,856 --> 00:30:59,524 -INTERVIEWER: Could I ask you a question? -What? 761 00:30:59,608 --> 00:31:01,568 When you and Mel spend a quiet evening at home, 762 00:31:01,651 --> 00:31:04,988 is it as animated as I see you? 763 00:31:05,072 --> 00:31:07,407 When I talk to Mel, it's very animated and you.. 764 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:09,701 I don't think we've ever really talked. 765 00:31:09,785 --> 00:31:11,578 You know what I mean? We never sit down and say, 766 00:31:11,661 --> 00:31:12,704 "Well, what did you do today?" 767 00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:14,456 INTERVIEWER: How do you know the marriage is working? 768 00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:15,499 I don't. I don't know. 769 00:31:15,582 --> 00:31:17,125 -Tell me, is it? -(LAUGHS) 770 00:31:17,167 --> 00:31:18,877 I don't even know if he likes me. 771 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,212 Oh! Ooh! 772 00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:22,506 I'll sell you his interview. You want to buy it? 773 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:23,673 Oh! 774 00:31:23,757 --> 00:31:25,217 INTERVIEWER: Oh, does he like you. 775 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:26,802 Well, that's so nice to know. 776 00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:30,972 (SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK) 777 00:31:31,014 --> 00:31:32,849 He said-- 778 00:31:32,933 --> 00:31:36,436 He says the girl took the fuzz off the ball. 779 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,648 (SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK) 780 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:40,857 ...topspin, topspin... 781 00:31:40,941 --> 00:31:42,859 (CONTINUES ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK) 782 00:31:42,943 --> 00:31:44,236 Ball, the ball, the ball! 783 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,364 He says because he is bald, he has no topspin. 784 00:31:47,447 --> 00:31:50,033 (SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK) 785 00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:54,871 (SPEAKING ITALIAN DOUBLE-TALK) 786 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,211 Sexual activity in room 412. 787 00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:04,506 -(BYSTANDERS LAUGHING) -(APPLAUSE) 788 00:32:04,548 --> 00:32:07,843 ROB REINER: My father used to refer to him as a doctor 789 00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:12,639 because he read more medical journals... 790 00:32:12,722 --> 00:32:16,017 I mean, if you didn't have the money to go visit a doctor, 791 00:32:16,059 --> 00:32:17,853 you could go to Mel. 792 00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,981 {\an8}And I always thought, even though, 793 00:32:21,022 --> 00:32:24,526 {\an8}Mel was only like four years younger than my dad, 794 00:32:24,568 --> 00:32:27,779 {\an8}I think he looked to my dad as like a father figure. 795 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:31,408 JUDD: Rob was saying that he thought in some ways 796 00:32:31,491 --> 00:32:34,244 Carl was almost like a father figure to you. 797 00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:36,955 Yeah, well, I lost my father when I was two years old. 798 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,081 JUDD: Yeah. 799 00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:40,208 And I was always, I think, unconsciously 800 00:32:40,292 --> 00:32:44,129 searching for some guidance from an older man, you know. 801 00:32:44,212 --> 00:32:45,255 JUDD: Yeah. 802 00:32:45,338 --> 00:32:46,840 And Carl was nice and tall. 803 00:32:46,923 --> 00:32:48,383 (JUDD CHUCKLES) 804 00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:51,303 -I literally looked up to Carl. -JUDD: Yeah. 805 00:32:51,386 --> 00:32:54,055 And Carl, for all his... 806 00:32:55,432 --> 00:32:58,768 schtick and insanity, was wise... 807 00:32:58,852 --> 00:33:00,729 -JUDD: Yeah. -...and loving. 808 00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:03,523 And I just said, "That's my father." 809 00:33:03,607 --> 00:33:04,733 JUDD: Wow. 810 00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:07,694 I just felt that Carl was there and I was very close to him. 811 00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:11,448 JUDD: And then when you hear all these stories about Mel 812 00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,074 with your dad and Norman Lear 813 00:33:13,116 --> 00:33:14,659 and Dom DeLuise and Larry Gelbart 814 00:33:14,743 --> 00:33:16,161 and this incredible group of people 815 00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:17,746 -who hung out. -ROB: Yeah, yeah. 816 00:33:17,787 --> 00:33:20,123 And they would spend weekends together 817 00:33:20,207 --> 00:33:23,919 and they each had their own comedy skill set that would... 818 00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,003 It was like, you know, 819 00:33:25,086 --> 00:33:28,215 "Just let's make each other laugh and have fun." 820 00:33:28,298 --> 00:33:29,925 CARL REINER: It was the most laughter 821 00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:31,426 I've ever been involved with, 822 00:33:31,510 --> 00:33:33,011 ever, ever, ever in my life. 823 00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:35,347 Nobody ever laughed like that. 824 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:37,974 {\an8}And we realized there's a club. 825 00:33:38,058 --> 00:33:40,894 {\an8}We decided to call ourselves Yenem Velt. 826 00:33:40,977 --> 00:33:42,604 Yenem Velt, 827 00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:45,482 which is a Yiddish term for "the other world." 828 00:33:45,565 --> 00:33:48,318 {\an8}I knew the guy who had the houses 829 00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,570 {\an8}and invited us to take them anytime. 830 00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:51,988 I put it together. 831 00:33:52,072 --> 00:33:53,615 Five bedrooms. 832 00:33:53,657 --> 00:33:57,244 And one bedroom was about four inches larger 833 00:33:57,327 --> 00:33:58,787 -than the other bedroom. -(INTERVIEWER LAUGHS) 834 00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:00,121 MEL: It was much bigger. 835 00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:02,624 NORMAN LEAR: And I took that bedroom. 836 00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:05,126 He never stopped resenting it. 837 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:06,294 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 838 00:34:06,378 --> 00:34:07,796 -All right. -He told us-- 839 00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:11,132 He told me at lunch just a few years ago. 840 00:34:11,174 --> 00:34:12,634 {\an8}(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 841 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:14,970 {\an8}Mel thought when he got slapped on the ass 842 00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:16,137 {\an8}by the doctor who delivered him 843 00:34:16,221 --> 00:34:17,597 {\an8}that that was applause. 844 00:34:18,682 --> 00:34:21,017 And he has not stopped performing since. 845 00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:27,107 There was not and there is nobody like Mel. 846 00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,528 INTERVIEWER: What do you think of Mel Brooks? 847 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:34,322 I can say that I think 848 00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:36,533 he is the only 849 00:34:37,284 --> 00:34:38,785 authentic genius 850 00:34:39,452 --> 00:34:40,662 that I've ever met. 851 00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,289 The reasons why... 852 00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,001 (SMACKING LOUDLY) 853 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:47,168 But I'm not here. 854 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:48,795 (CHUCKLES) 855 00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:50,547 I had the greatest 856 00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,675 theatrical experiences of my life 857 00:34:53,717 --> 00:34:54,968 working with him. 858 00:34:55,051 --> 00:34:56,177 MEL: And sexual. 859 00:34:57,178 --> 00:34:59,055 And sexual experiences. 860 00:34:59,889 --> 00:35:01,182 And, um, 861 00:35:02,225 --> 00:35:03,685 on Young Frankenstein, 862 00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:06,354 we did something that was unique. 863 00:35:07,522 --> 00:35:09,190 We both wrote, 864 00:35:09,232 --> 00:35:11,067 he directed, I starred. 865 00:35:12,277 --> 00:35:16,072 And I feel that now, with Mel 866 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,326 directing and acting, 867 00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:21,411 the scripts that he's written, 868 00:35:22,746 --> 00:35:24,456 he is gearing those scripts 869 00:35:24,539 --> 00:35:27,208 for himself as a performer. 870 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:31,046 So those scripts are shaped according to his talent, 871 00:35:31,087 --> 00:35:33,381 what he wants to do as a performer. 872 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:35,383 For me to just step in, 873 00:35:35,467 --> 00:35:37,052 it would be a little bit crazy 874 00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,095 because it wouldn't be right for me. 875 00:35:39,179 --> 00:35:41,222 And I've come to the conclusion 876 00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:42,974 that the only way 877 00:35:43,058 --> 00:35:46,686 that it will be right for us to create magic again 878 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,772 will be for us both to write, 879 00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:51,232 him to direct, and me to star. 880 00:35:51,274 --> 00:35:53,610 And since I'm one of the few people in the world 881 00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:55,737 who want nothing from him, 882 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,906 I'm going to wait until that day comes 883 00:35:57,947 --> 00:35:59,532 when he says, "I'm ready." 884 00:36:00,742 --> 00:36:02,702 {\an8}I've come on the most urgent of business. 885 00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:04,913 {\an8}It is said that the people are revolting. 886 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:07,248 {\an8}You said it. They stink on ice. 887 00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:09,584 No, Your Majesty, this is a very serious problem. 888 00:36:09,668 --> 00:36:12,128 The peasants feel you have no regard for them. 889 00:36:12,212 --> 00:36:15,507 What? I have no regard for the peasants? 890 00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:18,218 They are my people. I am their sovereign. 891 00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:20,136 I love them. 892 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:21,179 Pull! 893 00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:25,600 -(GUNSHOT) -(MAN SCREAMING) 894 00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:26,935 Drifting to the left. 895 00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:29,020 You must always go for the essence of the film. 896 00:36:29,104 --> 00:36:30,230 Pull! 897 00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,606 -(GUNSHOT) -(MAN EMITS SHORT SCREAM) 898 00:36:32,357 --> 00:36:33,441 Fell like a stone. 899 00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:34,609 What is the film about? 900 00:36:34,693 --> 00:36:36,111 Shall we continue 901 00:36:36,152 --> 00:36:38,780 to build palace after palace for the rich? 902 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:41,950 Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose 903 00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:44,577 and build decent housing for the poor? 904 00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:47,622 {\an8}GROUP: Fuck the poor! 905 00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:51,668 The next movie I'm making, it's behind me on the wall here, 906 00:36:52,752 --> 00:36:57,799 is Mel Brooks's History of the World, Part I. 907 00:36:57,882 --> 00:37:01,469 ♪ (ADVENTUROUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 908 00:37:01,511 --> 00:37:03,722 This will be the Stone Age. 909 00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:07,225 And the first man will masturbate. 910 00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:08,852 (MEN GRUNTING) 911 00:37:08,935 --> 00:37:10,812 MEL: We will freeze the frame and say, 912 00:37:10,854 --> 00:37:11,896 "Our forefathers." 913 00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:14,399 {\an8}(GRUNTING CONTINUES) 914 00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:16,818 All pay heed! 915 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,529 The Lord, the Lord Jehovah, 916 00:37:19,612 --> 00:37:22,365 has given unto you these 15... 917 00:37:22,449 --> 00:37:23,825 ♪ (MUSIC STOPS) ♪ 918 00:37:23,908 --> 00:37:24,909 Oy. 919 00:37:25,869 --> 00:37:28,496 Ten! Ten commandments! 920 00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:30,165 MEL: And then we'll land and the next bit 921 00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:32,000 will be the Roman Empire. 922 00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:34,169 -CLERK: Occupation? -COMICUS: Stand-up philosopher. 923 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:37,380 I coalesce the vapor of human experience 924 00:37:37,464 --> 00:37:40,258 into a viable and logical comprehension. 925 00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:41,968 Oh. 926 00:37:42,051 --> 00:37:43,720 A bullshit artist. 927 00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:45,263 (GRUMBLES) 928 00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:47,849 MEL: And we continue to show that the administrators... 929 00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:49,225 Oh, Caesar! 930 00:37:49,893 --> 00:37:50,894 (BURPS) 931 00:37:50,977 --> 00:37:52,228 ...the leaders, the kings, 932 00:37:52,854 --> 00:37:54,230 are animals and brutal. 933 00:37:54,314 --> 00:37:56,608 That's just a little philosophical point. 934 00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:57,692 Say when. 935 00:37:58,568 --> 00:37:59,694 8:30. 936 00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:04,699 MEL: We move from the Roman Empire... 937 00:38:04,741 --> 00:38:08,161 For now begins the Inquisition. 938 00:38:08,244 --> 00:38:10,705 ...over to the Spanish Inquisition. 939 00:38:10,747 --> 00:38:12,290 ♪ ("THE INQUISITION" BY MEL BROOKS PLAYING) ♪ 940 00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:14,709 -♪ The Inquisition ♪ -♪ Let's begin ♪ 941 00:38:14,793 --> 00:38:17,045 -♪ The Inquisition ♪ -♪ Look out, sin ♪ 942 00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:18,630 ♪ We have a mission ♪ 943 00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:19,964 ♪ To convert the Jews ♪ 944 00:38:20,048 --> 00:38:21,758 ♪ Jew, Jew, Jew, Jew Jew, Jew, Jew... ♪ 945 00:38:21,841 --> 00:38:24,260 MEL: It was a man called Torquemada who came and took Jews, 946 00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:26,763 put them on racks, broke their bones. 947 00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:30,058 And we're gonna make a Busby Berkeley musical number 948 00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:31,768 out of the Spanish Inquisition. 949 00:38:31,851 --> 00:38:36,231 -♪ Confess, don't be boring ♪ -♪ Confess, confess ♪ 950 00:38:36,272 --> 00:38:39,609 -♪ Say yes, don't be dull ♪ -♪ Say yes, say yes ♪ 951 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:45,198 -♪ A fact you're ignoring ♪ -♪ A fact you're ignoring ♪ 952 00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:47,450 ♪ It's better To lose your skullcap ♪ 953 00:38:47,534 --> 00:38:49,244 ♪ Than your skull ♪ 954 00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:50,453 ♪ Oy oy gevalt ♪ 955 00:38:50,537 --> 00:38:54,040 ♪ The Inquisition, yeah... ♪ (SINGING INDISTINCTLY) 956 00:38:54,082 --> 00:38:56,626 Oh, "The Inquisition." Shit, we didn't talk about that. 957 00:38:56,709 --> 00:38:58,753 This is fucking batshit, 958 00:38:58,837 --> 00:39:01,172 and it is the most delightful thing 959 00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:02,549 I've ever seen in my life. 960 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:08,096 It's full-on, truly brilliant musical theater Broadway level. 961 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:09,889 ♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 962 00:39:09,973 --> 00:39:11,975 ♪ Scit, scat, and voodoo-lee-vat And doodle-dee-day ♪ 963 00:39:12,058 --> 00:39:13,101 ♪ Will you convert? ♪ 964 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,602 ♪ No, no, no, no ♪ 965 00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:15,687 ♪ Will you confess? ♪ 966 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:17,146 ♪ No, no, no, no ♪ 967 00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:18,273 ♪ Will you revert? ♪ 968 00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:19,607 ♪ No, no, no, no ♪ 969 00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:20,775 ♪ Will you say yes? ♪ 970 00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,318 ♪ No, no, no, no ♪ 971 00:39:22,402 --> 00:39:24,946 ♪ Now, I asked in a nice way I said pretty please ♪ 972 00:39:24,988 --> 00:39:27,657 ♪ I bent their ears Now, I'll work on their knees ♪ 973 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:29,993 ♪ (DYNAMIC MELODY PLAYING) ♪ 974 00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:36,291 -(SCREAMS) -Ha-ha! 975 00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:38,376 ♪ (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 976 00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:45,008 {\an8}He got bad reviews, of course. 977 00:39:45,091 --> 00:39:47,135 {\an8}You know, you just, you don't hear that. 978 00:39:47,176 --> 00:39:48,845 {\an8}You know, like the Beatles got bad reviews. 979 00:39:50,805 --> 00:39:54,142 History of the World was a really big deal in my house. 980 00:39:54,225 --> 00:39:56,394 The jokes about the Spanish Inquisition 981 00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:58,855 -and "It's Good to Be the King." -It's good to be the King. 982 00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:01,482 -♪ The Inquisition What a show ♪ -♪ What a show ♪ 983 00:40:01,524 --> 00:40:03,693 AMY SCHUMER: Even as that grotesque character, 984 00:40:03,776 --> 00:40:04,986 you still loved Mel Brooks. 985 00:40:05,069 --> 00:40:07,572 Death, hump, death, hump, death. Your time is running out. 986 00:40:07,655 --> 00:40:09,157 'Cause he was making fun 987 00:40:09,198 --> 00:40:10,700 of ultimate privilege and power. 988 00:40:10,783 --> 00:40:12,368 Oh, please. Listen to me. 989 00:40:12,452 --> 00:40:13,870 I'm not the king! 990 00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:15,830 CROWD: Bullshit! 991 00:40:15,914 --> 00:40:17,498 It's a very hard crowd. 992 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:20,293 ♪ Because The Inquisition's here ♪ 993 00:40:20,376 --> 00:40:24,047 ♪ And it's here to ♪ 994 00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:29,302 ♪ Stay ♪ 995 00:40:29,385 --> 00:40:30,386 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 996 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:33,848 You know, and the eunuchs, castrated men. 997 00:40:34,474 --> 00:40:35,767 Well, wait, the eunuchs... 998 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:37,393 Is it-- That's not castration 999 00:40:37,477 --> 00:40:39,270 if you just cut their balls off, is it? 1000 00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:41,064 That's still castration? 1001 00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:42,690 JUDD: I think that is castration. 1002 00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:44,734 God, I've been doing it wrong all these years. 1003 00:40:44,817 --> 00:40:45,860 We had hoped to have, 1004 00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:47,528 and I think I mentioned this last night, 1005 00:40:47,612 --> 00:40:49,405 Rex Reed of the New York Daily News, 1006 00:40:49,489 --> 00:40:52,075 who hated Mel Brooks's picture. 1007 00:40:52,158 --> 00:40:53,868 And Rex, I thought it might have been nice 1008 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:55,995 if Rex had been here to confront Mel 1009 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:58,206 and give him face-to-face his review of the picture, 1010 00:40:58,247 --> 00:40:59,874 The History of the World, Part I. 1011 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,751 But we had a call from Rex Reed today, 1012 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,878 and unfortunately, he is not able to make it. 1013 00:41:03,962 --> 00:41:05,755 Something about a toothache, or... 1014 00:41:05,838 --> 00:41:09,550 I wished... Oh, I wanted Rex Reed to be here tonight. 1015 00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:11,552 Oh, so, so much. But... 1016 00:41:11,636 --> 00:41:13,554 -(TOM SNYDER LAUGHS) -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1017 00:41:13,596 --> 00:41:15,181 TOM: You mean for a little conversation, 1018 00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:16,474 a little chat. Exactly. 1019 00:41:16,557 --> 00:41:18,726 I like face-to-face confrontation. 1020 00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:22,730 I don't like writing things, scrawling little hate messages. 1021 00:41:22,772 --> 00:41:25,024 "How do I hate thee? Let me count the ways." 1022 00:41:25,108 --> 00:41:26,943 But I mean, sometimes the critics put things down 1023 00:41:27,026 --> 00:41:28,277 because it puts them up. 1024 00:41:28,361 --> 00:41:30,154 It is self-righteous. 1025 00:41:30,238 --> 00:41:31,572 They're hypocritical. 1026 00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:33,241 They don't break wind. 1027 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,742 -They don't... -(AUDIENCE MEMBERS LAUGH) 1028 00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:36,619 I mean, they don't have sex. 1029 00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:38,746 People laugh at Jew jokes, Polish jokes, 1030 00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:40,123 passing gas jokes, 1031 00:41:40,206 --> 00:41:42,250 going to the bathroom jokes, all that stuff in private. 1032 00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:43,584 And then we get to the movie theater 1033 00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:44,919 and we're supposed to make believe 1034 00:41:44,961 --> 00:41:46,963 that nobody ever does that. It's ridiculous, frankly. 1035 00:41:47,046 --> 00:41:48,798 I'm writing a movie to please the critics. 1036 00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:50,508 People will have no orifices. 1037 00:41:50,591 --> 00:41:51,592 These... 1038 00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:53,261 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1039 00:41:53,302 --> 00:41:54,595 TOM: How are we gonna breathe? 1040 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,597 Things will... Everything will be sealed. 1041 00:41:56,681 --> 00:41:58,516 Everything will be clean. We will... 1042 00:41:58,599 --> 00:41:59,934 You will not hear the sound 1043 00:41:59,976 --> 00:42:01,936 of breaking wind across the prairie. 1044 00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,939 It will be the cleanest, nicest movie. 1045 00:42:04,981 --> 00:42:06,774 And only the critics will see it, 1046 00:42:06,816 --> 00:42:08,067 -unfortunately. -TOM: Yeah, yeah. 1047 00:42:08,109 --> 00:42:09,694 I don't think we'll get an audience for it. 1048 00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:11,112 -Yeah. -I'm a rum runner. 1049 00:42:11,195 --> 00:42:13,656 I'm a rum runner. I have terrific rum. 1050 00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:15,450 It's 110-proof rum. 1051 00:42:15,491 --> 00:42:17,827 It's funny rum. It's good rum. It's hot rum. 1052 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:19,495 Some people like that kind of rum. 1053 00:42:19,579 --> 00:42:21,247 I gotta get that rum to the people. 1054 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:22,373 I'm trying to get it. 1055 00:42:22,457 --> 00:42:24,959 Now, there's a picket line, a picket line of critics. 1056 00:42:25,043 --> 00:42:26,502 "It stinks. It's tall. It's short. 1057 00:42:26,586 --> 00:42:27,628 It's Jewish. It's funny. 1058 00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:29,088 It's smart. It's twisted. It's a bagel. 1059 00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:30,298 It's a tagel. It's a ragel." 1060 00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:32,967 I mean, they don't... They don't let you... 1061 00:42:33,009 --> 00:42:34,469 But for some reason, 1062 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:37,472 the initial basic wonderful contract 1063 00:42:37,513 --> 00:42:39,974 is with the filmmaker and the people. 1064 00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:41,893 And the only thing 1065 00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:43,519 that makes a picture live is time. 1066 00:42:44,187 --> 00:42:46,439 We will outlive all the critics. 1067 00:42:46,522 --> 00:42:49,942 ♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1068 00:43:04,749 --> 00:43:08,377 MAX: My father is beloved by the people 1069 00:43:08,961 --> 00:43:10,505 and he is worshipped 1070 00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:11,881 by comedians. 1071 00:43:12,548 --> 00:43:14,050 NARRATOR: Here, in a cave 1072 00:43:14,133 --> 00:43:15,843 somewhere in the North American continent, 1073 00:43:15,927 --> 00:43:18,179 the first artist was born. 1074 00:43:18,262 --> 00:43:19,680 MAX: But the intelligentsia 1075 00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:21,599 never really embraced him, 1076 00:43:21,682 --> 00:43:23,351 never saw him as a genius. 1077 00:43:23,392 --> 00:43:24,435 (GRUNTING) 1078 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:28,272 MAX: He was never wise, he was never insightful. 1079 00:43:28,356 --> 00:43:31,734 He was always just commercial and silly and slapstick. 1080 00:43:31,818 --> 00:43:35,113 NARRATOR: And of course, with the birth of the artist 1081 00:43:35,988 --> 00:43:38,616 came the inevitable afterbirth. 1082 00:43:40,284 --> 00:43:41,327 The critic. 1083 00:43:46,082 --> 00:43:48,793 (GRUNTING) 1084 00:43:49,502 --> 00:43:51,379 There is a production number 1085 00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:53,881 in History of the World, Part I that... 1086 00:43:54,966 --> 00:43:57,593 It is, I think, the highlight of the movie. 1087 00:43:57,677 --> 00:43:59,929 Now, everybody has different-- I was... I was... 1088 00:44:00,012 --> 00:44:01,806 I think it is a stroke of genius. 1089 00:44:01,889 --> 00:44:03,766 Some people hate it. 1090 00:44:03,850 --> 00:44:05,643 I loved it. 1091 00:44:05,726 --> 00:44:07,603 Short, dumb people hate it. 1092 00:44:07,687 --> 00:44:10,022 (LAUGHS) 1093 00:44:10,106 --> 00:44:13,568 Tall, interesting, handsome people 1094 00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:15,236 like it. 1095 00:44:15,278 --> 00:44:16,904 MAURY POVICH: There are people who got disgusted, 1096 00:44:16,988 --> 00:44:18,072 walked out of theaters. 1097 00:44:18,114 --> 00:44:19,365 Some gossip columnist 1098 00:44:19,448 --> 00:44:21,242 said that you were making terrible fun... 1099 00:44:21,325 --> 00:44:23,286 -Right, they-- -...of a tragic time in history. 1100 00:44:23,369 --> 00:44:24,620 Exactly. 1101 00:44:24,704 --> 00:44:26,414 They thought that the Inquisition 1102 00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:29,917 was not the subject matter for comedy. 1103 00:44:30,001 --> 00:44:32,253 And I maintain seriously that 1104 00:44:32,295 --> 00:44:35,089 there is nothing that is not the subject matter for comedy 1105 00:44:35,131 --> 00:44:37,592 because comedy is a sensational 1106 00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:40,469 and sometimes spectacular political weapon. 1107 00:44:40,553 --> 00:44:42,597 {\an8}Pauline Kael, a great critic of The New Yorker 1108 00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:44,974 {\an8}who had disliked his earlier films, 1109 00:44:45,057 --> 00:44:46,684 {\an8}came around on this one 1110 00:44:46,767 --> 00:44:49,145 and said, "This is brilliant." 1111 00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:51,939 Her opening paragraph in The New Yorker was, 1112 00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:54,442 "If Mel Brooks doesn't go too far, 1113 00:44:54,525 --> 00:44:55,693 he hasn't moved." 1114 00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:59,322 It shocked me. I panned the movie in 1981 1115 00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:00,656 in New York magazine 1116 00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:02,366 'cause I thought it went too far. 1117 00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:05,661 And when I saw it again and again, 1118 00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:09,040 it struck me as this is the most daring, 1119 00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:11,167 the craziest thing he's ever done. 1120 00:45:11,250 --> 00:45:12,668 It pushes art 1121 00:45:12,752 --> 00:45:14,837 in almost a kind of modernist way, 1122 00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:16,339 like theater of cruelty way, 1123 00:45:16,422 --> 00:45:18,799 push the thing as far as it can go. 1124 00:45:18,841 --> 00:45:21,636 And it's borderline hostile to the audience 1125 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:23,471 until you realize 1126 00:45:23,554 --> 00:45:25,640 what he's doing and you reset. 1127 00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:27,099 And then after you see it... 1128 00:45:28,059 --> 00:45:29,518 the second and third time, 1129 00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:32,021 I think there's an immense release, 1130 00:45:32,104 --> 00:45:33,522 the release of anguish. 1131 00:45:33,606 --> 00:45:35,775 Um, "Yes, I can laugh at this." 1132 00:45:36,817 --> 00:45:38,152 CHARLIE ROSE: How much of comedy 1133 00:45:38,236 --> 00:45:40,821 comes out of anger, out of your own anger, your rage? 1134 00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,657 You're right. A lot comes out of passion. 1135 00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:44,075 -What are you angry about today? -A lot. 1136 00:45:44,158 --> 00:45:46,369 Where's the rage today when you look at America? 1137 00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:47,495 Not your movies, 1138 00:45:47,578 --> 00:45:48,871 but when you look at America and say, 1139 00:45:48,955 --> 00:45:51,666 "That is wrong and that's going to take America to the..." 1140 00:45:51,707 --> 00:45:53,626 What gets me crazy and angry 1141 00:45:53,709 --> 00:45:56,796 is that a couple of guys in Washington 1142 00:45:56,879 --> 00:45:59,715 will sit around a table and decide 1143 00:46:00,883 --> 00:46:04,762 to spend billions and billions of dollars 1144 00:46:04,845 --> 00:46:08,182 for an antique aircraft carrier 1145 00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:11,185 while truly needy programs 1146 00:46:11,269 --> 00:46:12,728 have been completely wiped away 1147 00:46:12,812 --> 00:46:15,231 by an administration that is not... 1148 00:46:15,314 --> 00:46:16,774 -(APPLAUSE) -A woman. 1149 00:46:16,857 --> 00:46:18,859 A woman doing the same job as a man 1150 00:46:18,943 --> 00:46:20,736 gets a raw deal because she's a woman. 1151 00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:23,364 There are many real horrible things. 1152 00:46:23,406 --> 00:46:25,366 A person, because of the color of his skin 1153 00:46:25,408 --> 00:46:28,202 or because of his religious beliefs, 1154 00:46:28,244 --> 00:46:31,247 is put down. I mean, there are many things, 1155 00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:32,873 that we're not addressing ourselves to, 1156 00:46:32,915 --> 00:46:35,042 that have to be addressed in some artistic form. 1157 00:46:35,126 --> 00:46:36,711 If the government's not gonna pay attention, 1158 00:46:36,752 --> 00:46:37,878 art must pay attention. 1159 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,756 {\an8}As a comic, uh, as an artist 1160 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,384 {\an8}yeah, you have to be a little bit fearless. 1161 00:46:43,426 --> 00:46:44,719 {\an8}You have to be a little bit fearless. 1162 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,679 {\an8}When you feel you have to say something, 1163 00:46:46,762 --> 00:46:47,805 you gotta say it. 1164 00:46:47,888 --> 00:46:50,224 And you gotta be able to live with the consequences. 1165 00:46:50,308 --> 00:46:51,559 Like, if you're gonna do it, 1166 00:46:51,642 --> 00:46:53,436 you have to go hard in the pain. 1167 00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,105 Right? You can't half-ass political satire. 1168 00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:57,440 Like, what's the point of that? 1169 00:46:57,523 --> 00:46:58,607 If you're gonna do it, 1170 00:46:58,691 --> 00:47:00,818 if you're gonna say something about awful people, 1171 00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:02,361 you have to go all in. 1172 00:47:02,445 --> 00:47:04,071 I think that's one of the big things 1173 00:47:04,113 --> 00:47:06,907 that separates satire from just yelling in a crowd 1174 00:47:06,949 --> 00:47:08,743 is you have to be... Go hard, 1175 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,536 but you have to make sure it's also funny. 1176 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,874 {\an8}(FILM REEL WHIRRING) 1177 00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:18,836 {\an8}(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1178 00:47:18,919 --> 00:47:20,629 VIEWER 1: Is that who I think it is? 1179 00:47:20,713 --> 00:47:22,840 VIEWER 2: Yes, that's Adolf Hitler in a home movie. 1180 00:47:23,549 --> 00:47:26,635 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1181 00:47:28,471 --> 00:47:29,930 VIEWER 1: Looks a little like Mel Brooks. 1182 00:47:30,014 --> 00:47:32,641 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1183 00:47:34,935 --> 00:47:37,271 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1184 00:47:37,313 --> 00:47:38,564 MAN 1: Who's taking the picture? 1185 00:47:39,148 --> 00:47:41,108 MAN 2: Eva. Eva Braun. 1186 00:47:41,192 --> 00:47:42,568 And not too many people know it, 1187 00:47:42,651 --> 00:47:44,987 but he was a secret admirer of Charlie Chaplin. 1188 00:47:45,071 --> 00:47:47,615 Now this is extremely rare footage. 1189 00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:49,116 At least with sound. 1190 00:47:49,158 --> 00:47:51,577 -(SPEAKING GERMAN DOUBLE-TALK) -Mm! 1191 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:55,289 (SPEAKING GERMAN) That? 1192 00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:57,958 -Apple sauce. -Apple sauce. Apple sauce... 1193 00:47:58,042 --> 00:47:59,460 (SPEAKER GERMAN DOUBLE-TALK) 1194 00:47:59,543 --> 00:48:01,420 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1195 00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:02,797 Danke. 1196 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,842 ♪ (WHISTLING "SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER") ♪ 1197 00:48:06,926 --> 00:48:09,970 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1198 00:48:10,054 --> 00:48:11,764 JUDD: What do you think was his instinct 1199 00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:13,808 to go hard at Nazis so much? 1200 00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:16,477 Well, I think it's what we Jews do 1201 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,853 as survival. 1202 00:48:17,937 --> 00:48:19,897 You know, it's you take... 1203 00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:21,357 He had in Twelve Chairs, 1204 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,151 I think there's a line where he says, um, 1205 00:48:24,235 --> 00:48:26,445 "Hope for the best, expect the worst." 1206 00:48:26,487 --> 00:48:29,365 And it's this thing... It's a survival mechanism 1207 00:48:29,448 --> 00:48:31,075 of comedy. 1208 00:48:31,158 --> 00:48:36,163 Humor is a way to keep you going and keep you, uh... 1209 00:48:36,247 --> 00:48:38,082 keep those Nazis at bay. 1210 00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:39,375 It was a bug. 1211 00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:42,128 A bug. You killed a bug. 1212 00:48:42,211 --> 00:48:46,006 A bug, a living thing, you just take its life away. 1213 00:48:46,090 --> 00:48:48,551 Boom, that's it, it's over. Boom. 1214 00:48:48,634 --> 00:48:50,553 CONAN O'BRIEN: People have been critical... 1215 00:48:50,636 --> 00:48:53,013 You just don't kill things. What's the matter with you? 1216 00:48:53,097 --> 00:48:55,808 ...about Mel putting a comb under his nose 1217 00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:58,936 and pretending to be Hitler or making light of the Nazis 1218 00:48:59,019 --> 00:49:00,646 or making light of all this. 1219 00:49:00,729 --> 00:49:02,189 And I always remember 1220 00:49:02,273 --> 00:49:05,192 {\an8}he could hear German soldiers across the river. 1221 00:49:06,152 --> 00:49:08,112 {\an8}He was fighting the Germans. 1222 00:49:08,195 --> 00:49:10,948 If you fought the Germans in World War II, 1223 00:49:11,031 --> 00:49:13,659 you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want. 1224 00:49:13,742 --> 00:49:15,953 And what better way 1225 00:49:16,036 --> 00:49:20,040 to overcome a tyrant than to ridicule him? 1226 00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:22,084 {\an8}When people are doing 1227 00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:25,212 {\an8}cruel and crazy and terrible things, 1228 00:49:25,254 --> 00:49:28,215 it's important to remind everyone 1229 00:49:28,257 --> 00:49:30,676 that they're cruel and terrible things. 1230 00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:32,720 And if you don't, 1231 00:49:32,761 --> 00:49:35,222 perhaps we become acclimated to it. 1232 00:49:35,264 --> 00:49:37,266 And, you know, for me, 1233 00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:39,894 I do feel like it's a little bit of a release valve 1234 00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:42,563 for people to, um, 1235 00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:45,608 see the powers that be made fun of, 1236 00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:48,402 but also I think it's a good reminder. 1237 00:49:48,444 --> 00:49:51,572 It's good to remind people that this isn't normal. 1238 00:49:51,655 --> 00:49:55,701 The greatest threat to these types of people 1239 00:49:55,784 --> 00:49:57,745 is to not be taken seriously. 1240 00:49:57,786 --> 00:49:59,914 Vladimir Putin 1241 00:49:59,955 --> 00:50:01,874 does not allow comedians to make fun of him. 1242 00:50:01,957 --> 00:50:04,251 That is an arrestable offense. 1243 00:50:04,335 --> 00:50:06,712 You don't get arrested for that 1244 00:50:06,795 --> 00:50:08,464 because he doesn't like the joke. 1245 00:50:08,547 --> 00:50:10,591 You get arrested because 1246 00:50:11,509 --> 00:50:14,595 he knows the joke is dangerous. 1247 00:50:14,637 --> 00:50:17,598 Comedy helps minimize terrifying things 1248 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,642 so that you can move forward 1249 00:50:19,725 --> 00:50:21,769 in the face of something terrifying. 1250 00:50:21,852 --> 00:50:24,146 It feels good to say those things. 1251 00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:26,941 It feels good... to hear those things. 1252 00:50:27,024 --> 00:50:29,568 MEL: See "Hitler on Ice!" 1253 00:50:29,610 --> 00:50:34,365 ♪ (WALTZ MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1254 00:50:34,448 --> 00:50:36,033 MEL: Sometimes my comedy 1255 00:50:36,116 --> 00:50:38,786 is just to celebrate the joy of being alive. 1256 00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:42,206 Here comes the mustache. Here is the face. 1257 00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:43,916 MEL: And sometimes it is philosophical 1258 00:50:43,999 --> 00:50:45,042 and ideological, 1259 00:50:45,125 --> 00:50:47,378 and I use it as skillfully as I know how. 1260 00:50:48,128 --> 00:50:50,047 Comedy ridicules. 1261 00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:51,507 Comedy demotes. 1262 00:50:52,508 --> 00:50:54,969 Comedy destroys 1263 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,679 the dignity of the enemy. 1264 00:50:58,681 --> 00:51:00,766 ALAN KING: Does Mel Brooks want to be taken seriously? 1265 00:51:00,849 --> 00:51:03,185 On occasion, I do. Yeah, on occasion. 1266 00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:06,814 I would like to have the largesse, the ability 1267 00:51:06,855 --> 00:51:10,776 to do a profoundly serious movie, 1268 00:51:10,818 --> 00:51:14,488 as well as an antic, silly comedy. 1269 00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:16,198 Our business is a very tough business, 1270 00:51:16,282 --> 00:51:18,409 and once you gain a reputation for something, 1271 00:51:18,492 --> 00:51:22,204 the public and the critics stick a siphon into you, 1272 00:51:22,288 --> 00:51:24,665 and they say, "Give us that, give us that." 1273 00:51:24,748 --> 00:51:26,166 They want nothing else, 1274 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:28,460 and they'll drain that until you're dead. 1275 00:51:28,544 --> 00:51:31,589 And I said, "There's more to me than just being a zany comic." 1276 00:51:33,716 --> 00:51:35,342 {\an8}So, I created a company called Brooksfilms. 1277 00:51:35,384 --> 00:51:38,637 The patient has been called "The Elephant Man." 1278 00:51:38,721 --> 00:51:40,180 MEL: When I read this wonderful story 1279 00:51:40,264 --> 00:51:41,807 of the Elephant Man, 1280 00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:43,892 I knew that under the banner of Brooksfilms 1281 00:51:45,019 --> 00:51:46,353 I could make 1282 00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:48,397 this beautiful picture. 1283 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,941 (APPLAUSE) 1284 00:51:53,319 --> 00:51:54,903 {\an8}After I finished 1285 00:51:54,987 --> 00:51:57,364 {\an8}my first feature, Eraserhead... 1286 00:51:57,448 --> 00:51:59,742 {\an8}-♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ -(HEAD BOINGS) 1287 00:52:03,912 --> 00:52:08,125 {\an8}...I got a phone call from a guy named Stuart Cornfeld. 1288 00:52:08,208 --> 00:52:09,376 And Stuart Cornfeld 1289 00:52:09,418 --> 00:52:11,128 worked for a man named Mel Brooks. 1290 00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:14,048 And at that time, 1291 00:52:14,131 --> 00:52:16,634 I was getting married to my second wife. 1292 00:52:18,177 --> 00:52:20,971 And my new mother-in-law... 1293 00:52:22,431 --> 00:52:25,434 uh, told my then-wife, 1294 00:52:26,268 --> 00:52:29,980 "David isn't working much. 1295 00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:33,942 Maybe it's time to light a fire under this, you know, bozo 1296 00:52:34,026 --> 00:52:38,405 and get him to make some money, right? And take care of you." 1297 00:52:38,489 --> 00:52:40,991 So, I called Stuart. 1298 00:52:42,368 --> 00:52:43,535 And I just wanted... 1299 00:52:43,619 --> 00:52:45,704 I don't know why, I just took a chance. 1300 00:52:46,330 --> 00:52:48,123 I said, "Stuart, 1301 00:52:48,207 --> 00:52:50,376 do you know of any films that I could direct?" 1302 00:52:51,585 --> 00:52:53,671 And he said, "The Elephant Man." 1303 00:52:54,713 --> 00:52:57,132 And a bomb went off in my head. 1304 00:52:58,133 --> 00:52:59,927 And this bomb had been off in my head 1305 00:52:59,968 --> 00:53:01,762 a couple of times before in my life, 1306 00:53:01,845 --> 00:53:03,430 but it's a huge thing. 1307 00:53:04,181 --> 00:53:06,684 From that millisecond on, 1308 00:53:06,767 --> 00:53:08,977 I said, "That's it, that's what I wanna do." 1309 00:53:09,061 --> 00:53:10,771 But what happened was 1310 00:53:11,563 --> 00:53:13,440 they called me and said, 1311 00:53:13,524 --> 00:53:16,276 "Mel wants to see Eraserhead." 1312 00:53:16,318 --> 00:53:17,778 And I got the gist, 1313 00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:19,822 if he didn't like it, I was out. 1314 00:53:20,823 --> 00:53:21,782 And I said, 1315 00:53:21,824 --> 00:53:24,118 "Well, it's been great knowing you guys." 1316 00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:28,038 So, Mel set up a screening at 20th Century Fox, 1317 00:53:28,122 --> 00:53:31,083 and the film ended, and the doors blew open, 1318 00:53:31,166 --> 00:53:33,085 and Mel came rushing toward me. 1319 00:53:33,711 --> 00:53:36,130 He embraced me and said, 1320 00:53:36,171 --> 00:53:39,007 "You're a madman. I love you. You're in." 1321 00:53:39,758 --> 00:53:41,760 And that was it. 1322 00:53:41,802 --> 00:53:43,804 INTERVIEWER: Did you pick the director for The Elephant Man? 1323 00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:45,222 MEL: Absolutely. I found him. 1324 00:53:45,305 --> 00:53:46,890 INTERVIEWER: That was a stroke of genius. 1325 00:53:46,974 --> 00:53:48,851 MEL: There's a great deal of beauty in him 1326 00:53:48,934 --> 00:53:49,977 and a great deal 1327 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:51,395 of understanding of the grotesque. 1328 00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:55,149 And he has great compassion for the grotesque. 1329 00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,526 And I knew he would be the perfect director. 1330 00:53:57,609 --> 00:53:59,486 (GASPING) 1331 00:53:59,528 --> 00:54:00,863 We've decided. 1332 00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:04,074 We're gonna get out of here, all right? 1333 00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:07,327 Oh, Mr. Merrick, 1334 00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:09,913 you're not an elephant man at all. 1335 00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:12,332 DAVID LYNCH: Anne Bancroft 1336 00:54:12,374 --> 00:54:14,168 was like working with royalty. 1337 00:54:14,209 --> 00:54:16,086 You're Romeo. 1338 00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:19,506 DAVID: And Mel is a smart fellow. 1339 00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:22,301 He knows about human nature 1340 00:54:22,843 --> 00:54:24,052 so much. 1341 00:54:24,762 --> 00:54:26,680 And he's just... 1342 00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:28,390 Mel's got... 1343 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,102 a lot going on in that mind of his. 1344 00:54:32,686 --> 00:54:34,646 He's real, real... 1345 00:54:35,647 --> 00:54:36,815 um, busy 1346 00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:39,902 and sees so much. 1347 00:54:40,903 --> 00:54:43,697 And, somehow, 1348 00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,825 he saw this in Eraserhead. 1349 00:54:46,909 --> 00:54:49,870 He's the perfect person to see that film. 1350 00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:52,372 And it... Now, it makes sense to me 1351 00:54:52,414 --> 00:54:54,583 that he liked it and would pick me, 1352 00:54:54,666 --> 00:54:57,085 but it doesn't really make any sense. 1353 00:54:57,169 --> 00:55:00,839 And Mel put me on the map with that, 1354 00:55:00,923 --> 00:55:04,384 you know, offering me to direct The Elephant Man, 1355 00:55:04,468 --> 00:55:07,221 and backing me up all along the way. 1356 00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,473 I didn't have final cut with Mel Brooks, 1357 00:55:09,556 --> 00:55:11,767 but in a sense, I would say he gave it to me. 1358 00:55:11,850 --> 00:55:15,354 I am not an animal! 1359 00:55:17,606 --> 00:55:21,485 I am a human being. 1360 00:55:21,568 --> 00:55:25,364 {\an8}To me that's the most selfless act of producing 1361 00:55:25,447 --> 00:55:27,074 {\an8}anybody's ever done. 1362 00:55:27,115 --> 00:55:28,283 The fact that Mel, you know, 1363 00:55:28,367 --> 00:55:31,578 said that if people see "produced by Mel Brooks" 1364 00:55:31,662 --> 00:55:34,748 and The Elephant Man, they're gonna expect a comedy. 1365 00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:36,416 And he wanted the movie to stand alone. 1366 00:55:36,458 --> 00:55:38,752 And so he took his name off it. And that's, I mean, 1367 00:55:38,836 --> 00:55:42,506 that's such an amazing thing for a producer to do. 1368 00:55:42,589 --> 00:55:45,384 That is Mel sort of at his... 1369 00:55:45,467 --> 00:55:47,678 sort of financial deal-making peak, 1370 00:55:47,761 --> 00:55:51,306 when he can pull strings and make stuff happen. 1371 00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:52,933 And the fact that he went to the mat 1372 00:55:52,975 --> 00:55:55,727 for this goofy kid out of AFI 1373 00:55:55,811 --> 00:55:58,438 -who had made a midnight movie. -Yeah. 1374 00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,815 And basically, going to the studio 1375 00:55:59,898 --> 00:56:01,275 saying, "I'm gonna back him. 1376 00:56:01,358 --> 00:56:02,276 And you can trust me, 1377 00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:03,777 the movie won't spin out of control, 1378 00:56:03,861 --> 00:56:06,280 -but the kid is directing this movie." -Right. 1379 00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:08,323 It's astonishing, and in black and white. 1380 00:56:08,407 --> 00:56:09,825 LARRY KARASZEWSKI: In black and white, yeah. 1381 00:56:09,908 --> 00:56:12,286 I mean, wow. I mean, that is awesome producing. 1382 00:56:12,327 --> 00:56:13,412 He's backing Cronenberg. 1383 00:56:14,997 --> 00:56:16,665 {\an8}No one ever really thinks about that, 1384 00:56:16,748 --> 00:56:18,333 that we would not have the careers 1385 00:56:18,417 --> 00:56:20,002 of David Cronenberg and David Lynch 1386 00:56:20,085 --> 00:56:21,837 if it wasn't for Mel Brooks. 1387 00:56:23,005 --> 00:56:25,674 JUDD: The success rate at Brooksfilms is crazy. 1388 00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:26,800 Please don't kill me. 1389 00:56:26,884 --> 00:56:28,468 JUDD: The Fly is a classic. 1390 00:56:28,510 --> 00:56:29,511 {\an8}Get your clothes on. 1391 00:56:29,595 --> 00:56:32,431 {\an8}-JUDD: He did Frances. -You've got no right! 1392 00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:34,683 MEL: Frances was a beautiful film. 1393 00:56:35,684 --> 00:56:37,311 {\an8}You know, 84 Charing Cross Road, 1394 00:56:37,352 --> 00:56:39,313 {\an8}and My Favorite Year. 1395 00:56:39,354 --> 00:56:41,148 {\an8}I am fat! 1396 00:56:41,189 --> 00:56:42,608 {\an8}MEL: And Anne's picture, Fatso. 1397 00:56:42,691 --> 00:56:44,860 Beautiful, really rich, deep, 1398 00:56:44,943 --> 00:56:46,653 -serious comedy. -Fat! I am fat! 1399 00:56:46,695 --> 00:56:49,072 MEL: All of them had real merit. 1400 00:56:49,156 --> 00:56:51,992 JUDD: Were you super involved or controlling, 1401 00:56:52,034 --> 00:56:53,619 or how were you as a producer? 1402 00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:56,663 Hands off until 1403 00:56:56,747 --> 00:56:58,999 I saw something that I thought I could help, 1404 00:56:59,041 --> 00:57:00,417 then it was hands-on. 1405 00:57:01,209 --> 00:57:02,669 Brooksfilms is a company 1406 00:57:02,711 --> 00:57:04,671 that enables me to bite off and chew things 1407 00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:06,340 that normally the critics and the public 1408 00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:08,675 would not allow Mel Brooks to do. 1409 00:57:08,759 --> 00:57:10,177 So, I feel 1410 00:57:10,218 --> 00:57:12,304 I'm doing a great service to mankind 1411 00:57:12,387 --> 00:57:14,890 by bringing important ideas 1412 00:57:14,973 --> 00:57:17,851 in the form of great art to the public. 1413 00:57:17,935 --> 00:57:21,521 And in return, all I want is a lot of money. 1414 00:57:21,605 --> 00:57:23,190 He has this serious side. 1415 00:57:23,273 --> 00:57:26,401 He has this very deep thinking side of him. 1416 00:57:26,485 --> 00:57:29,363 And I think, like lots of creative people, 1417 00:57:29,404 --> 00:57:33,367 they're afraid to put that part of themselves out there 1418 00:57:33,408 --> 00:57:35,786 because, "That's not the brand. 1419 00:57:35,869 --> 00:57:38,372 That's not what people want from me. 1420 00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:41,833 But I can do it in things like The Elephant Man 1421 00:57:41,917 --> 00:57:43,585 and Frances." 1422 00:57:43,669 --> 00:57:44,711 That's the way he found 1423 00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:46,421 to express himself in a different way. 1424 00:57:50,008 --> 00:57:52,386 TERRY WOGAN: You are known as the master of bad taste. 1425 00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:54,388 -Yes, I am, I am. -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1426 00:57:54,429 --> 00:57:57,557 Is this justified, or are you sorry now? 1427 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,519 No, no, no, it's justified. And I... 1428 00:58:00,602 --> 00:58:04,648 I am known for my exquisitely bad taste. 1429 00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:07,067 In America, people say, 1430 00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:09,403 "Mr. Brooks, you are in bad taste." 1431 00:58:09,444 --> 00:58:11,113 I say, "Up yours." 1432 00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:12,239 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1433 00:58:12,322 --> 00:58:14,074 You know, I've been watching this show from the wings. 1434 00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:16,076 I'm not going to criticize it. I love it. 1435 00:58:16,118 --> 00:58:18,412 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1436 00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:21,790 The cameras seem to have some problems knowing when 1437 00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:23,583 you are going to speak 1438 00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:26,128 and when your guest is going to speak. 1439 00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:28,088 So, it occurred to me 1440 00:58:28,130 --> 00:58:30,132 to warn them, so that they don't come in 1441 00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:32,342 on a second syllable or a second word. 1442 00:58:33,635 --> 00:58:35,929 If you say, "Ba-ba" and then talk, 1443 00:58:35,971 --> 00:58:37,431 on the ba-ba, they will cut to you. 1444 00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:38,515 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1445 00:58:38,598 --> 00:58:41,101 If I'm going to talk, I will say, "Ba-ba" 1446 00:58:41,184 --> 00:58:42,602 and they will cut to me. 1447 00:58:42,686 --> 00:58:44,062 Of course, this is where you-- 1448 00:58:44,104 --> 00:58:46,440 That's why you're a director and producer, 1449 00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,650 and I'm just a common or garden... 1450 00:58:48,734 --> 00:58:50,569 Ba-ba! I'll tell you, Terry... 1451 00:58:50,652 --> 00:58:51,945 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1452 00:58:52,029 --> 00:58:53,989 (APPLAUSE) 1453 00:58:54,072 --> 00:58:55,282 Ba-ba! 1454 00:58:55,323 --> 00:58:56,783 I hadn't finished. 1455 00:58:56,867 --> 00:58:59,119 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(LAUGHS) 1456 00:59:00,912 --> 00:59:03,123 You know what Jewish foreplay is? 1457 00:59:03,165 --> 00:59:04,583 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1458 00:59:04,666 --> 00:59:06,793 Let me tell you what Jewish foreplay is. 1459 00:59:06,877 --> 00:59:08,295 -May I? -TERRY: Please. 1460 00:59:08,378 --> 00:59:09,296 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1461 00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:10,964 Twenty minutes of begging. 1462 00:59:11,048 --> 00:59:12,799 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -TERRY: Ba-ba. 1463 00:59:14,217 --> 00:59:15,927 And yet you married an Italian. 1464 00:59:16,011 --> 00:59:17,304 Ba-ba, yes. 1465 00:59:17,345 --> 00:59:19,806 How did you lure this actress into this kind of dross... 1466 00:59:19,848 --> 00:59:21,099 With a giant Jew magnet. 1467 00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:22,309 I said, "Come this way. 1468 00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:23,643 You're mine. 1469 00:59:23,685 --> 00:59:26,646 You're mine." Ba-ba, schmuck. "You're mine." 1470 00:59:26,688 --> 00:59:29,316 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1471 00:59:29,357 --> 00:59:31,985 She adores me because I'm the other side of her life. 1472 00:59:32,027 --> 00:59:33,570 I'm merriment. I'm fun. 1473 00:59:33,653 --> 00:59:34,696 I'm silly. 1474 00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:36,782 When are we going to see that side of you? 1475 00:59:36,865 --> 00:59:38,533 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(LAUGHS) 1476 00:59:38,617 --> 00:59:39,993 Yes, miss. 1477 00:59:40,035 --> 00:59:42,537 I've heard that you're married to 1478 00:59:42,621 --> 00:59:44,664 the most beautiful woman in the world. 1479 00:59:44,706 --> 00:59:45,999 Is that true, Mr. Brooks? 1480 00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:47,709 No, I'm married to Anne Bancroft. 1481 00:59:47,793 --> 00:59:50,545 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(APPLAUSE) 1482 00:59:51,797 --> 00:59:53,006 My beautiful wife. 1483 00:59:55,383 --> 00:59:56,676 Thank you. 1484 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,887 -In... -(APPLAUSE) 1485 00:59:58,970 --> 01:00:00,555 We are starring together, 1486 01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:02,390 starring together in a major motion picture 1487 01:00:02,474 --> 01:00:04,101 for the first time. 1488 01:00:04,184 --> 01:00:06,186 A motion picture called To Be or Not to Be, 1489 01:00:06,228 --> 01:00:08,230 which should be in your neighborhood theaters 1490 01:00:08,313 --> 01:00:09,564 in about an hour and a half. 1491 01:00:10,899 --> 01:00:11,942 Why don't we sing... 1492 01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:13,401 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1493 01:00:13,485 --> 01:00:15,112 ...a little Polish for these-- 1494 01:00:15,612 --> 01:00:16,696 Yes. 1495 01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:17,864 Let me get up there. 1496 01:00:17,906 --> 01:00:19,533 Come on, folks, let's encourage her. 1497 01:00:19,574 --> 01:00:22,786 (APPLAUSE) 1498 01:00:27,582 --> 01:00:28,542 Yes. 1499 01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:30,001 -(ANNE SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) -Yeah. 1500 01:00:31,378 --> 01:00:32,712 Don't worry, don't worry, you can do it. 1501 01:00:32,754 --> 01:00:33,755 ANNE: No, I can't. 1502 01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:36,216 I got cue cards. What are you worried about? 1503 01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:39,553 Remember, it’s not so important, just a TV show. 1504 01:00:39,594 --> 01:00:42,013 It doesn't have to be good, they're not paying for this. 1505 01:00:42,097 --> 01:00:44,099 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1506 01:00:44,182 --> 01:00:45,725 ♪ (LIVELY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1507 01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:54,359 ♪ (SINGING IN POLISH) ♪ 1508 01:00:54,442 --> 01:00:56,444 ♪ Sweet Georgia Brown ♪ 1509 01:00:56,528 --> 01:00:59,281 {\an8}♪ (SINGING IN POLISH) ♪ 1510 01:00:59,364 --> 01:01:01,283 {\an8}♪ Sweet Georgia Brown ♪ 1511 01:01:01,366 --> 01:01:02,868 {\an8}MEL: For years, I had been looking 1512 01:01:02,951 --> 01:01:05,662 {\an8}for a vehicle that would contain... 1513 01:01:05,745 --> 01:01:07,789 {\an8}Quick! Let's rehearse the scene. 1514 01:01:07,873 --> 01:01:09,082 {\an8}-...the majesty... -Hail Hitler. 1515 01:01:09,124 --> 01:01:10,625 {\an8}Heil Hitler. All right, I've got it. 1516 01:01:10,709 --> 01:01:12,127 ...of my talent 1517 01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:14,754 with the tap-dancing ability of my wife. 1518 01:01:14,796 --> 01:01:17,299 ♪ (SINGING IN POLISH) ♪ 1519 01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:22,596 Do we love each other? Tell them. I mean... 1520 01:01:22,637 --> 01:01:24,681 Well, I mean, do you know what it means anymore? 1521 01:01:24,764 --> 01:01:27,142 All we know, all we know is that 1522 01:01:27,225 --> 01:01:29,144 we are rafts in the ocean 1523 01:01:29,227 --> 01:01:31,271 and we swim to each other and cling 1524 01:01:31,313 --> 01:01:34,608 because life is filled with all kinds of fraught, 1525 01:01:34,649 --> 01:01:37,027 with all kinds of disaster and certainly unhappiness. 1526 01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:38,945 And at least we have each other to... 1527 01:01:38,987 --> 01:01:40,614 Look, as far as I'm concerned... 1528 01:01:40,697 --> 01:01:41,781 Is that how you feel? 1529 01:01:41,865 --> 01:01:43,408 Marriage is a retail store. 1530 01:01:43,450 --> 01:01:45,118 Somebody has to watch the register. 1531 01:01:45,202 --> 01:01:46,244 (CHUCKLES) 1532 01:01:46,328 --> 01:01:48,580 And somebody has to get the pretzels down for the kids. 1533 01:01:48,663 --> 01:01:51,791 I mean, it's hard. I mean, look, life is very hard. 1534 01:01:51,875 --> 01:01:54,294 I think you need a partner that you love and who loves you 1535 01:01:54,336 --> 01:01:55,462 to get through it. 1536 01:01:55,503 --> 01:01:57,923 INTERVIEWER: But you're content to be with each other. 1537 01:01:58,506 --> 01:01:59,549 I'm more than content. 1538 01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:01,134 I mean, when he comes home at night, 1539 01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:03,803 when that key goes in the door, I mean, my heart starts fluttering. 1540 01:02:03,887 --> 01:02:06,264 -I am so happy he's home. -You're so nice. 1541 01:02:06,348 --> 01:02:08,141 -(CHUCKLES) -You know, I mean, 1542 01:02:08,183 --> 01:02:11,019 it's like the party's going to start, you know? 1543 01:02:11,102 --> 01:02:12,312 And I get my hat. 1544 01:02:12,354 --> 01:02:14,481 I get my party hat from New York. 1545 01:02:14,522 --> 01:02:16,483 -(LAUGHS) -I throw confetti, and I run in. 1546 01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:17,984 -(LAUGHS) -(VOCALIZES) 1547 01:02:18,068 --> 01:02:19,361 And we dance all night. 1548 01:02:20,237 --> 01:02:22,614 MAX: My parents always had a rule. 1549 01:02:22,697 --> 01:02:24,366 Never go to bed angry. 1550 01:02:24,908 --> 01:02:26,576 Get it all out. 1551 01:02:27,202 --> 01:02:29,663 So, they got it all out. 1552 01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:32,832 What happens if you have a disagreement of some sort? I've got to know. 1553 01:02:32,874 --> 01:02:34,376 She goes after me with a half a scissor. 1554 01:02:34,459 --> 01:02:35,460 What do you mean? 1555 01:02:35,502 --> 01:02:36,711 INTERVIEWER: With a half a scissor? 1556 01:02:36,795 --> 01:02:37,921 Yeah, you know, the Italians. 1557 01:02:38,004 --> 01:02:40,548 (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 1558 01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:43,176 Oh, yeah. What do you do? You run? 1559 01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:45,845 -No, no, no. We sit and we talk. -That's right. 1560 01:02:45,887 --> 01:02:47,013 We sit and we say, 1561 01:02:47,055 --> 01:02:48,556 "Darling, if there's any problem, 1562 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,016 you know, let's talk it out." 1563 01:02:50,058 --> 01:02:51,393 And we talk for about two minutes, 1564 01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:53,853 and then she goes... (SPEAKING ITALIAN) 1565 01:02:53,895 --> 01:02:56,022 {\an8}They fought about a lot of little things, 1566 01:02:56,106 --> 01:02:57,482 {\an8}a lot of big things. 1567 01:02:57,524 --> 01:02:59,317 {\an8}Sometimes she would just yell at him, 1568 01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:01,027 {\an8}especially with his career, 1569 01:03:01,069 --> 01:03:03,196 because she was very much about 1570 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,865 making him do what she knew he wanted to do. 1571 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:07,993 My dad is a procrastinator. 1572 01:03:08,034 --> 01:03:10,328 And so my mother was very clear about like, 1573 01:03:10,412 --> 01:03:12,664 "Mel, go write that." 1574 01:03:12,747 --> 01:03:14,082 I don't think I can do it. 1575 01:03:14,165 --> 01:03:15,875 I don't think I can get away with it. 1576 01:03:15,917 --> 01:03:18,044 Yes, yes, yes, yes. You can. You can. 1577 01:03:18,086 --> 01:03:20,255 You can, you can, you can and you will. 1578 01:03:20,338 --> 01:03:22,924 You're a great actor. You were born to do it. 1579 01:03:23,008 --> 01:03:25,885 You even look like Siletski. Big nose, beady eyes. 1580 01:03:25,969 --> 01:03:27,887 You'll be a better Siletski than Siletski. 1581 01:03:27,971 --> 01:03:29,431 I hope so. He's dead. 1582 01:03:29,514 --> 01:03:30,807 Beady eyes. 1583 01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:32,183 Sorry, sweetheart. 1584 01:03:34,728 --> 01:03:35,895 MEL: She's always pushed me. 1585 01:03:35,937 --> 01:03:37,230 She's always been an inspiration. 1586 01:03:37,314 --> 01:03:38,398 She always thought I was talented. 1587 01:03:38,481 --> 01:03:40,066 And she believed in me right from the beginning, 1588 01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:41,735 whatever I wanted to do. 1589 01:03:41,776 --> 01:03:43,945 She said, you can do it. 1590 01:03:44,029 --> 01:03:46,948 MAX: When I was growing up, that was at his height. 1591 01:03:47,032 --> 01:03:49,743 So, even though I saw him constantly, 1592 01:03:49,784 --> 01:03:52,412 he was busy being Mel Brooks. 1593 01:03:52,454 --> 01:03:54,080 Hiya. Wie geht's? 1594 01:03:56,291 --> 01:03:57,917 This is my little cottage. 1595 01:03:58,001 --> 01:03:59,836 This is my bathtub. 1596 01:03:59,919 --> 01:04:01,463 It's a whirlpool bath. 1597 01:04:01,546 --> 01:04:03,131 It has 17 jets. 1598 01:04:03,214 --> 01:04:05,550 The jets of water hit you... 1599 01:04:05,633 --> 01:04:06,634 everywhere. 1600 01:04:06,718 --> 01:04:08,261 It's a pleasure. (LAUGHS) 1601 01:04:09,054 --> 01:04:10,472 Ah! 1602 01:04:10,555 --> 01:04:13,558 We are now in my son Max's room. 1603 01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:15,101 I have a son, Max. 1604 01:04:15,185 --> 01:04:17,479 He's 11 years old and he needs a room. 1605 01:04:17,562 --> 01:04:18,605 Come here. 1606 01:04:18,646 --> 01:04:20,607 MAX: My dad had no idea how to be a dad. 1607 01:04:20,648 --> 01:04:21,900 He can have all this space here. 1608 01:04:21,983 --> 01:04:23,109 MAX: And was very honest about that. 1609 01:04:23,151 --> 01:04:25,445 We only made one small mistake. 1610 01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:27,614 We didn't build Max a toilet, 1611 01:04:27,697 --> 01:04:29,866 so he will have to go outside. 1612 01:04:29,949 --> 01:04:32,952 MAX: And my dad was very nervous and very protective, 1613 01:04:33,036 --> 01:04:35,121 even in places he had no right to be. 1614 01:04:35,205 --> 01:04:36,456 I'll never forget the phrase, 1615 01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:38,750 "What if I wake up tomorrow and you're dead?" 1616 01:04:40,168 --> 01:04:43,213 This was when I wanted to go camping in the backyard. 1617 01:04:43,296 --> 01:04:45,507 And we had to, like, meet with the family shrink, 1618 01:04:45,590 --> 01:04:47,217 and the shrink had to talk to my dad. 1619 01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:48,802 "Well, Mel, what do you think would happen?" 1620 01:04:48,843 --> 01:04:50,303 "Well, I don't know. How do I know? 1621 01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:53,306 What if I wake up tomorrow and you're dead?" 1622 01:04:53,348 --> 01:04:57,143 So, yes, there was always those fights. 1623 01:04:57,185 --> 01:04:58,895 And eventually I won 1624 01:04:58,978 --> 01:05:00,313 because I'm here in my own house. 1625 01:05:01,439 --> 01:05:02,357 (BEEP) 1626 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,733 Flamethrowers! 1627 01:05:03,817 --> 01:05:05,068 (AIR HISSING) 1628 01:05:05,151 --> 01:05:06,319 Flamethrowers! 1629 01:05:06,361 --> 01:05:07,904 Yeah, now it works. 1630 01:05:08,863 --> 01:05:10,532 And last but not least... 1631 01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:12,367 dolls. 1632 01:05:12,450 --> 01:05:15,286 Here's a new one of me and I talk. 1633 01:05:15,995 --> 01:05:17,497 Let's ride your bike. 1634 01:05:19,416 --> 01:05:20,875 Blow it out your ass. 1635 01:05:20,959 --> 01:05:22,001 (CAST LAUGHING) 1636 01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:23,336 Cut. 1637 01:05:23,420 --> 01:05:25,255 {\an8}♪ ("SPACEBALLS" THEME PLAYING) ♪ 1638 01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:34,013 {\an8}Spaceballs? 1639 01:05:34,055 --> 01:05:35,265 Oh, shit. 1640 01:05:35,348 --> 01:05:36,808 There goes the planet. 1641 01:05:36,850 --> 01:05:39,936 I said I've satirized almost every kind of-- 1642 01:05:40,019 --> 01:05:42,063 but I have not done space. 1643 01:05:42,147 --> 01:05:44,566 If you're gonna do space, you better do Star Wars. 1644 01:05:45,775 --> 01:05:47,819 (GASPS) I can't breathe in this thing! 1645 01:05:48,486 --> 01:05:49,612 MEL: In Spaceballs, 1646 01:05:50,363 --> 01:05:51,698 we have used up the air. 1647 01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:54,117 There is no air left on Planet Spaceball. 1648 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,411 Because of an ignorant and foolish president. 1649 01:05:56,494 --> 01:05:59,706 -What's the combination? -One, two, three, four, five. 1650 01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:02,083 -One, two, three, four, five? -Yes. 1651 01:06:02,167 --> 01:06:04,419 That's amazing. I've got the same combination on my luggage. 1652 01:06:04,502 --> 01:06:05,962 He doesn't care about the environment. 1653 01:06:06,045 --> 01:06:07,046 He doesn't care about people. 1654 01:06:07,088 --> 01:06:08,715 He doesn't care about trade deficits. 1655 01:06:08,798 --> 01:06:10,550 He is just a good looking... 1656 01:06:10,633 --> 01:06:11,885 He's kind of an actor. 1657 01:06:11,926 --> 01:06:13,761 You know, he smiles a lot and... 1658 01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:17,599 But-- And that's the guy I'm-- I can't think of who I... 1659 01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:20,560 I am, you know, modeling the role after. 1660 01:06:20,602 --> 01:06:21,603 I mean... 1661 01:06:21,686 --> 01:06:24,397 -President Skroob. -What is it? 1662 01:06:24,481 --> 01:06:26,900 {\an8}ZIRCON: I have an urgent message from Lord Helmet. 1663 01:06:26,941 --> 01:06:28,151 {\an8}He's lost the princess. 1664 01:06:28,234 --> 01:06:30,570 {\an8}-Where? -Somewhere in the sands of Vega. 1665 01:06:30,612 --> 01:06:32,739 {\an8}Tell him to comb the desert, do you hear me? 1666 01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:34,449 {\an8}Comb the desert! 1667 01:06:34,532 --> 01:06:35,533 Found anything yet? 1668 01:06:37,076 --> 01:06:38,411 Nothing yet, sir! 1669 01:06:40,705 --> 01:06:41,789 DARK HELMET: How about you? 1670 01:06:43,208 --> 01:06:44,417 Not a thing, sir. 1671 01:06:47,837 --> 01:06:49,464 DARK HELMET: What about you guys? 1672 01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:51,925 We ain't found shit. 1673 01:06:52,008 --> 01:06:54,677 NARRATOR: Another jab at movie clichés 1674 01:06:54,761 --> 01:06:56,429 from a 60-year-old actor, 1675 01:06:56,513 --> 01:06:58,932 writer, producer, director, and comedian 1676 01:06:58,973 --> 01:07:00,308 by the name of Mel Brooks. 1677 01:07:00,391 --> 01:07:01,935 Helmet, what's going on? 1678 01:07:02,018 --> 01:07:03,645 Sandurz, what's going on? 1679 01:07:03,728 --> 01:07:04,812 It's Mega Maid. 1680 01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:08,274 -She's gone from suck to blow. -(GASPS) 1681 01:07:08,358 --> 01:07:09,984 NARRATOR: Spaceballs is another example 1682 01:07:10,068 --> 01:07:11,611 that with Brooks, 1683 01:07:11,653 --> 01:07:14,113 there are no sacred movie cows. 1684 01:07:14,197 --> 01:07:15,323 Stand up! 1685 01:07:15,865 --> 01:07:17,033 Captain, we've got them! 1686 01:07:19,118 --> 01:07:21,621 Spectacular stunt, my friends. 1687 01:07:21,663 --> 01:07:23,289 But all for naught. 1688 01:07:24,165 --> 01:07:25,458 Turn around, please. 1689 01:07:26,084 --> 01:07:27,168 So, princess, 1690 01:07:27,252 --> 01:07:28,628 you thought you could outwit 1691 01:07:28,711 --> 01:07:30,672 the imperious force of... (GASPS) 1692 01:07:32,674 --> 01:07:34,050 You idiots! 1693 01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:36,010 These are not them! 1694 01:07:36,094 --> 01:07:38,805 You've captured their stunt doubles! 1695 01:07:38,846 --> 01:07:40,932 INTERVIEWER: You're parodying Star Wars, 1696 01:07:40,974 --> 01:07:43,810 and many of the characters are very similar. 1697 01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:46,521 DARK HELMET: I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. 1698 01:07:46,604 --> 01:07:49,148 So, you knew George Lucas's lawyers 1699 01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:51,317 might even be able to stop this movie. 1700 01:07:51,401 --> 01:07:52,819 You didn't want that, so... 1701 01:07:52,860 --> 01:07:55,655 Lucas liked me, he liked my work, 1702 01:07:55,738 --> 01:07:58,324 and he said, "Mel, the only thing you can't do. 1703 01:07:58,366 --> 01:08:00,201 You can't do the merchandising." 1704 01:08:00,285 --> 01:08:01,536 What is it that you do here? 1705 01:08:02,161 --> 01:08:03,329 Merchandising. 1706 01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:04,747 To this day, I haven't. 1707 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,418 But in case there's another Spaceballs... 1708 01:08:09,961 --> 01:08:11,087 Who knows? 1709 01:08:11,170 --> 01:08:12,964 I mean, that's an old contract, you know? 1710 01:08:13,047 --> 01:08:14,007 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1711 01:08:14,048 --> 01:08:15,216 YOGURT: Walk this way. 1712 01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:16,384 Take a look. 1713 01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:17,510 Merchandising, 1714 01:08:17,594 --> 01:08:19,012 merchandising. 1715 01:08:19,095 --> 01:08:21,848 Where the real money from the movie is made. 1716 01:08:21,889 --> 01:08:23,725 Spaceballs the T-shirt. 1717 01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:25,518 Spaceballs the coloring book. 1718 01:08:25,602 --> 01:08:27,729 Spaceballs the lunchbox. 1719 01:08:27,812 --> 01:08:30,231 Spaceballs the breakfast cereal. 1720 01:08:30,315 --> 01:08:32,817 Spaceballs the flamethrower. 1721 01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:35,194 -(GASPING) -The kids love this one. 1722 01:08:35,236 --> 01:08:38,781 {\an8}I was doing a play, and Mel and, uh, 1723 01:08:40,074 --> 01:08:42,535 {\an8}Anne Bancroft came to see the play 1724 01:08:42,577 --> 01:08:45,121 while they were considering me for Spaceballs. 1725 01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:47,248 So, I had done one movie, 1726 01:08:47,332 --> 01:08:49,959 which was Ruthless People in a small part. 1727 01:08:50,043 --> 01:08:53,087 He was... is quite bl-- you know, direct and everything. 1728 01:08:53,171 --> 01:08:55,882 He said, "You know what? We tried to get a Tom. 1729 01:08:55,923 --> 01:08:58,426 We tried Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks, 1730 01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:00,053 but instead we got a Bill." 1731 01:09:00,553 --> 01:09:01,929 (CHUCKLES) 1732 01:09:02,013 --> 01:09:03,389 ♪ (ADVENTUROUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1733 01:09:03,473 --> 01:09:05,475 BILL PULLMAN: You know, it was clear that John and Rick 1734 01:09:05,558 --> 01:09:07,226 had established careers, 1735 01:09:07,268 --> 01:09:09,896 and that they were the money cast, 1736 01:09:09,937 --> 01:09:11,230 you know, the ones 1737 01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:13,733 that helped make the movie happen. 1738 01:09:13,775 --> 01:09:16,736 At that point, there was a lot of discussion, I remember, 1739 01:09:16,778 --> 01:09:18,738 about old comedy and new comedy, 1740 01:09:18,821 --> 01:09:21,282 and Rick and John were new comedy, 1741 01:09:21,366 --> 01:09:23,034 and Mel was the old one. 1742 01:09:23,117 --> 01:09:25,912 He was able to kind of include them, 1743 01:09:25,953 --> 01:09:29,457 and I remember Rick Moranis working out a lot of business. 1744 01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:31,084 Now you are going to die! 1745 01:09:31,125 --> 01:09:32,251 Pfft. Oh! 1746 01:09:32,293 --> 01:09:33,586 Doing the dolls. 1747 01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:36,631 DARK HELMET: (IMITATING PRINCESS VESPA) Oh, your helmet is so big. 1748 01:09:36,714 --> 01:09:38,174 And John, too. 1749 01:09:38,257 --> 01:09:40,301 And that allowed us to kind of improvise 1750 01:09:40,385 --> 01:09:41,928 {\an8}a lot of things that weren't... 1751 01:09:42,011 --> 01:09:43,179 {\an8}-Clapping! -...planned. 1752 01:09:43,262 --> 01:09:44,263 {\an8}About to clap! 1753 01:09:44,347 --> 01:09:45,932 {\an8}BILL: You know, like our little handshake. 1754 01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:49,602 (WAILING) 1755 01:09:49,686 --> 01:09:51,771 That was not, you know, Mel's style, 1756 01:09:51,854 --> 01:09:55,441 but he was incorporating John Candy's instincts. 1757 01:09:55,483 --> 01:09:57,151 Oh, you were the worst on that take. 1758 01:09:57,235 --> 01:09:58,361 CREW: He always does that. 1759 01:09:58,444 --> 01:10:01,072 I don't know, Mel. You must not have been directing as good. 1760 01:10:01,155 --> 01:10:03,324 DAPHNE ZUNIGA: That atmosphere, 1761 01:10:03,408 --> 01:10:05,827 {\an8}you sort of, like, by osmosis, take in 1762 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:07,370 {\an8}like, what would work, what wouldn't 1763 01:10:07,453 --> 01:10:08,371 {\an8}for your character. 1764 01:10:08,454 --> 01:10:10,957 I'm not shooting this thing. I hate guns. 1765 01:10:10,998 --> 01:10:12,625 DAPHNE: In the script, I was just meant to say, 1766 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:15,211 "I hate guns," and then I escape into the Winnebago. 1767 01:10:15,294 --> 01:10:16,379 Well, I was like, 1768 01:10:16,462 --> 01:10:19,006 "What if I say, 'Ew, I hate guns,' 1769 01:10:19,090 --> 01:10:21,509 and then they shoot my hair?" 1770 01:10:22,176 --> 01:10:23,428 He shot my hair! 1771 01:10:24,429 --> 01:10:26,055 Son of a bitch. 1772 01:10:26,139 --> 01:10:27,724 (RAY GUN POWERING ON) 1773 01:10:32,353 --> 01:10:34,564 Holy shit. 1774 01:10:34,647 --> 01:10:37,066 MEL: And action. 1775 01:10:37,150 --> 01:10:40,194 I am the writer, the director, the producer, and the star. 1776 01:10:40,278 --> 01:10:41,988 Sometimes I have a little problem. 1777 01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:43,156 INTERVIEWER: Why is that? 1778 01:10:43,197 --> 01:10:44,866 As the actor, I ask for a little more money. 1779 01:10:44,949 --> 01:10:46,909 As the director, I say, "What, are you crazy? You stink. 1780 01:10:46,993 --> 01:10:48,661 I'm not going to pay that kind of money." 1781 01:10:48,745 --> 01:10:50,037 And as the actor, I say, 1782 01:10:50,121 --> 01:10:52,165 "I'm walking." The director says, "Walk. 1783 01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:54,083 I don't have to take that junk from you." 1784 01:10:54,167 --> 01:10:56,419 And we fight a little bit. I send myself a dozen roses. 1785 01:10:56,502 --> 01:10:58,171 I make up. I come back on the set. 1786 01:10:58,254 --> 01:11:00,840 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1787 01:11:00,923 --> 01:11:03,926 ♪ ("SPACEBALLS" THEME PLAYING) ♪ 1788 01:11:04,594 --> 01:11:05,887 MEL: Spaceballs went on 1789 01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:07,847 to become one of the biggest hits 1790 01:11:07,930 --> 01:11:10,349 in the Mel Brooks cinematic universe. 1791 01:11:10,433 --> 01:11:13,394 {\an8}I think I've autographed more Spaceballs posters 1792 01:11:13,478 --> 01:11:15,938 {\an8}than for any other Mel Brooks film. 1793 01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:17,565 {\an8}JUDD: That one's really... 1794 01:11:17,648 --> 01:11:19,400 turned into a big thing over the years. 1795 01:11:19,484 --> 01:11:21,194 It seems like it gets bigger every year. 1796 01:11:21,235 --> 01:11:22,862 I know. 1797 01:11:22,904 --> 01:11:24,697 You never know what's gonna blossom 1798 01:11:24,739 --> 01:11:26,699 and spread its wings and fly. 1799 01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:28,534 Will we ever see each other again? 1800 01:11:28,618 --> 01:11:29,911 Who knows? 1801 01:11:29,994 --> 01:11:31,579 God willing, we'll all meet again 1802 01:11:31,662 --> 01:11:35,208 in Spaceballs II: The Search for More Money. 1803 01:11:35,291 --> 01:11:37,376 MEL: I'm still not ruling it out. 1804 01:11:37,418 --> 01:11:41,297 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC INTENSIFIES, CONCLUDES) ♪ 1805 01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:43,382 LARRY KING: Is it harder to do a Young Frankenstein 1806 01:11:43,424 --> 01:11:44,509 than an Elephant Man? 1807 01:11:44,592 --> 01:11:46,761 MEL: Yes, it is. Because you've got to do the same thing. 1808 01:11:46,844 --> 01:11:48,471 The dramatic structure is the same. 1809 01:11:48,554 --> 01:11:50,640 And then on top of that, you have to make people laugh. 1810 01:11:50,723 --> 01:11:51,933 It's a lot easier to make them cry 1811 01:11:52,016 --> 01:11:53,017 than to make them laugh. 1812 01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:54,018 To make them cry, 1813 01:11:54,101 --> 01:11:55,603 what we gotta do is step on their foot, hard. 1814 01:11:55,686 --> 01:11:56,896 And boy, they cry. 1815 01:11:56,938 --> 01:11:58,564 But making them laugh is very hard 1816 01:11:58,648 --> 01:12:00,274 because it's at what moment 1817 01:12:00,358 --> 01:12:02,777 they will give themselves to you. 1818 01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:04,445 What moment? 1819 01:12:04,529 --> 01:12:07,907 What is the critical moment that the audience will abandon 1820 01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:10,785 its dignity and its self-respect? 1821 01:12:15,873 --> 01:12:17,208 Young Frankenstein, 1822 01:12:17,959 --> 01:12:18,960 right on this street. 1823 01:12:21,671 --> 01:12:22,713 See? 1824 01:12:23,548 --> 01:12:26,092 Authorized personnel only. 1825 01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:28,928 I can go in here. They know me. I am authorized. 1826 01:12:28,970 --> 01:12:31,264 I live at Fox. I work at Fox. 1827 01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:34,183 I'm very important at Fox. Wait here. 1828 01:12:37,061 --> 01:12:38,229 (MEL SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY) 1829 01:12:38,312 --> 01:12:40,106 Fuck you... Don't tell me... 1830 01:12:40,147 --> 01:12:42,233 -(MEL SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY) -(BANGING) 1831 01:12:43,234 --> 01:12:45,194 Fuck you. Never mind. 1832 01:12:45,278 --> 01:12:47,822 {\an8}When I did The Tracey Ullman Show at Fox, 1833 01:12:47,905 --> 01:12:49,115 {\an8}he was on the lot. 1834 01:12:49,198 --> 01:12:51,117 Get off the fucking curb! 1835 01:12:51,158 --> 01:12:52,451 And he would come around 1836 01:12:52,535 --> 01:12:54,453 when you're eating in the Fox commissary. 1837 01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:55,663 "Hey, how you doing?" 1838 01:12:55,746 --> 01:12:57,999 And he would come up to you and just say something funny, 1839 01:12:58,082 --> 01:12:59,667 and then he'd go, "Nice working your table." 1840 01:12:59,750 --> 01:13:02,420 (CACKLES) In the commissary, we loved that. 1841 01:13:02,503 --> 01:13:04,255 We'd go, "Oh, he's gonna work our table." 1842 01:13:04,338 --> 01:13:05,298 {\an8}Hey, Miranda. 1843 01:13:05,381 --> 01:13:07,174 {\an8}TRACEY ULLMAN: He asked to be on my show 1844 01:13:07,258 --> 01:13:08,676 {\an8}when I started out. 1845 01:13:09,427 --> 01:13:10,970 -How do you do? -How do you do? 1846 01:13:11,012 --> 01:13:13,097 I decided to be Kathleen Turner. 1847 01:13:13,931 --> 01:13:14,974 It's so hot. 1848 01:13:15,016 --> 01:13:17,143 Let me just say, 1849 01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:20,187 I have enormous misgivings about your talent. 1850 01:13:20,271 --> 01:13:22,189 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 1851 01:13:22,273 --> 01:13:24,108 TRACEY: It was almost like he had a comedy tape measure. 1852 01:13:24,191 --> 01:13:26,694 He'd look at the distance from the window to the chair. 1853 01:13:26,777 --> 01:13:30,573 If he had a prop, if he went, "I want a chair that slips." 1854 01:13:30,656 --> 01:13:32,742 Miranda, I assure you, I-- 1855 01:13:32,825 --> 01:13:33,743 (EXCLAIMS) 1856 01:13:33,826 --> 01:13:35,119 (EXCLAIMS) 1857 01:13:35,202 --> 01:13:36,954 And he would just have things on his desk, 1858 01:13:37,038 --> 01:13:37,997 like he had a dog poop. 1859 01:13:38,039 --> 01:13:39,290 And I went, "Ugh!" 1860 01:13:39,332 --> 01:13:41,334 You know, as me. I went, "Ugh, Mel, that's horrible." 1861 01:13:41,375 --> 01:13:42,877 He went, "Don't knock a classic." 1862 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,504 {\an8}You can forget about my promise to help you. 1863 01:13:45,546 --> 01:13:46,756 {\an8}No, wait, wait, wait... 1864 01:13:46,839 --> 01:13:48,341 {\an8}TRACEY: So, when he asked me to be 1865 01:13:48,382 --> 01:13:50,009 in Robin Hood: Men in Tights, 1866 01:13:50,051 --> 01:13:51,844 I knew I wanted to play the part, 1867 01:13:51,928 --> 01:13:53,763 because he showed me a bit of the script, 1868 01:13:53,846 --> 01:13:56,432 -and he says... -Such an unusual name, Latrine. 1869 01:13:56,515 --> 01:13:59,185 And then I say, "Oh, I used to be called Shit House." 1870 01:13:59,226 --> 01:14:01,437 Yeah, used to be Shit House. 1871 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,148 (CHUCKLES) It was a terrible big joke. 1872 01:14:04,231 --> 01:14:05,775 (CACKLING) 1873 01:14:05,858 --> 01:14:08,653 ALL: ♪ We're men We're men in tights... ♪ 1874 01:14:09,737 --> 01:14:11,906 "We roam around the forest looking for fights..." 1875 01:14:13,115 --> 01:14:14,867 ♪ We're men ♪ 1876 01:14:14,909 --> 01:14:16,786 ♪ We're men In tights, tight tights ♪ 1877 01:14:16,869 --> 01:14:18,412 GROUP: ♪ Always on guard ♪ 1878 01:14:18,496 --> 01:14:20,414 ♪ Defending The people's rights ♪ 1879 01:14:20,498 --> 01:14:22,208 ♪ When you're in a fix ♪ 1880 01:14:22,291 --> 01:14:24,377 ♪ Just call For the men in tights ♪ 1881 01:14:24,418 --> 01:14:25,711 ♪ We're butch! ♪ 1882 01:14:25,753 --> 01:14:28,422 ♪ We may look like pansies ♪ 1883 01:14:28,506 --> 01:14:30,758 Yeah, I remember I was embarrassed. 1884 01:14:30,841 --> 01:14:33,302 But also, it was so silly, 1885 01:14:33,970 --> 01:14:36,263 and Mel got a kick out of it, 1886 01:14:36,347 --> 01:14:38,766 which also made it more fun. 1887 01:14:38,849 --> 01:14:40,393 {\an8}We all grew up on Mel Brooks. 1888 01:14:40,434 --> 01:14:41,727 {\an8}That's no different in England. 1889 01:14:41,769 --> 01:14:43,688 {\an8}Yeah, everyone thinks it's a uniquely American phenomenon, 1890 01:14:43,771 --> 01:14:46,107 {\an8}that Mel Brooks is not a worldwide phenomenon. 1891 01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:47,650 He's a worldwide phenomenon. 1892 01:14:47,733 --> 01:14:50,736 You know, in England, we were learning his movies, 1893 01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:53,406 and learning the dialogue, and repeating it back, 1894 01:14:53,489 --> 01:14:54,740 just like Monty Python. 1895 01:14:54,824 --> 01:14:56,784 Mohel, he's a very important guy. 1896 01:14:57,451 --> 01:14:59,453 He makes circumcisions. 1897 01:14:59,537 --> 01:15:01,956 What, pray tell, sir, is a circumcision? 1898 01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:03,290 It's a snap. 1899 01:15:03,958 --> 01:15:05,292 I take my little machine... 1900 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,464 I take your little thing, see? 1901 01:15:10,548 --> 01:15:12,800 I put it into this little hole here, 1902 01:15:12,883 --> 01:15:15,594 and... nip the tip. 1903 01:15:15,636 --> 01:15:16,929 (GROUP GASPING) 1904 01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:18,681 I remember my first take. 1905 01:15:18,764 --> 01:15:21,100 He comes up to me and he goes, "Okay, that was good. 1906 01:15:21,183 --> 01:15:23,978 In this next take, suck less. All right, let's try it again." 1907 01:15:24,061 --> 01:15:25,312 MEL: You're all quiet now. 1908 01:15:25,396 --> 01:15:27,106 CARY ELWES: And not much time to learn archery. 1909 01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:28,315 Suddenly, Mel's like, 1910 01:15:28,399 --> 01:15:29,984 "Uh, we're gonna do the bullseye next." 1911 01:15:30,067 --> 01:15:31,444 I went, "What? What?" 1912 01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:32,945 "Just remember, we have to break for lunch, 1913 01:15:32,987 --> 01:15:34,238 so we have to get this quickly." 1914 01:15:34,321 --> 01:15:35,322 No pressure. 1915 01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:36,615 Goodbye. 1916 01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:37,992 CARY: I fire the first one, 1917 01:15:38,659 --> 01:15:40,202 misses the target altogether. 1918 01:15:40,286 --> 01:15:42,121 And Mel goes, "Cut, cut, okay. 1919 01:15:42,163 --> 01:15:43,539 Another one, just another one. 1920 01:15:43,622 --> 01:15:44,999 Just remember, everybody's hungry. 1921 01:15:45,082 --> 01:15:46,459 Okay, let's go again." 1922 01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:47,960 I do the second one. 1923 01:15:48,002 --> 01:15:49,962 -That misses. -(GROANS) 1924 01:15:50,046 --> 01:15:51,672 "I'm hungry." 1925 01:15:52,798 --> 01:15:54,550 -GROUP: Oh! -CARY: Thank God 1926 01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:55,676 the third one 1927 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:56,719 landed in the bullseye, 1928 01:15:56,802 --> 01:15:58,429 and you can see the shock 1929 01:15:59,263 --> 01:16:00,347 on my face. 1930 01:16:00,431 --> 01:16:02,433 Hey, wait a minute, Robin, you just said that you-- 1931 01:16:02,516 --> 01:16:03,976 -MEL: Cool it. -Chilled. 1932 01:16:05,519 --> 01:16:09,648 MEL: I need time in between. Don't say "chilled" so fast. 1933 01:16:09,732 --> 01:16:10,691 Yes, yes, sir. 1934 01:16:10,775 --> 01:16:12,359 MEL: Okay. And next, we pick it up. 1935 01:16:12,443 --> 01:16:14,653 DAVE CHAPPELLE: When I was on set, I was 19. 1936 01:16:14,695 --> 01:16:16,906 Mel Brooks was one of the first famous people 1937 01:16:16,989 --> 01:16:18,783 I ever spent time with. 1938 01:16:18,866 --> 01:16:20,659 And he was a good shepherd. 1939 01:16:20,743 --> 01:16:22,661 You know, like a lot of times, while he was directing, 1940 01:16:22,745 --> 01:16:24,121 he'd be like, "Dave, come on, have a seat." 1941 01:16:24,205 --> 01:16:25,539 And then he would just do the takes. 1942 01:16:25,623 --> 01:16:26,832 This was on scenes that I wasn't in. 1943 01:16:26,916 --> 01:16:29,668 But I didn't realize the gift that he was giving me. 1944 01:16:29,710 --> 01:16:32,129 He was letting me watch him cook. 1945 01:16:32,213 --> 01:16:34,507 We didn't land on Sherwood Forest. 1946 01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:37,176 Sherwood Forest landed on us. 1947 01:16:37,218 --> 01:16:38,552 CROWD: Yeah! 1948 01:16:38,636 --> 01:16:39,845 DAVE: You know, sometimes, 1949 01:16:39,887 --> 01:16:40,888 he'd take me to lunch, 1950 01:16:40,971 --> 01:16:42,473 and his old friend, Carl Reiner, 1951 01:16:42,556 --> 01:16:44,850 was directing a movie on the next soundstage. 1952 01:16:44,934 --> 01:16:48,896 And then at some point, and he knew that I'd be like... 1953 01:16:48,979 --> 01:16:52,191 The two of them started doing The 2000 Year Old Man. 1954 01:16:52,233 --> 01:16:55,736 The greatest comic routine by two of the greatest comics, 1955 01:16:55,820 --> 01:16:57,947 and me as the audience. 1956 01:16:58,030 --> 01:16:59,615 I'll never forget it. 1957 01:17:00,407 --> 01:17:01,909 And then I met his wife. 1958 01:17:01,992 --> 01:17:03,035 She comes, and she says, 1959 01:17:03,077 --> 01:17:05,204 "Oh, Mel says so many wonderful things about you." 1960 01:17:05,287 --> 01:17:08,582 She goes on and on and gushes about how much he likes me. 1961 01:17:08,666 --> 01:17:09,750 And then I go, 1962 01:17:09,834 --> 01:17:11,752 "You're not trying to seduce me, are you, Mrs. Robinson?" 1963 01:17:11,836 --> 01:17:14,880 And not thinking that she's heard that joke a million times, 1964 01:17:14,964 --> 01:17:16,590 nothing, silence. 1965 01:17:16,674 --> 01:17:18,509 And all you could hear was... (CHUCKLES) 1966 01:17:18,592 --> 01:17:20,594 Dom DeLuise's labored breath. 1967 01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:22,555 (WHEEZES) 1968 01:17:22,638 --> 01:17:26,058 That was really fucking terrible and hilarious. 1969 01:17:26,142 --> 01:17:28,060 A new sheriff of Rottingham. 1970 01:17:28,102 --> 01:17:30,271 CROWD: A Black sheriff? 1971 01:17:30,896 --> 01:17:32,481 And why not? 1972 01:17:32,565 --> 01:17:34,233 It worked in Blazing Saddles. 1973 01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:35,901 CROWD: Oh, yeah. 1974 01:17:36,610 --> 01:17:38,195 This is wonderful. 1975 01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:39,238 (GROUP LAUGHS) 1976 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:40,739 L'chaim and cut. 1977 01:17:40,823 --> 01:17:42,491 ♪ (MELANCHOLIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1978 01:17:42,575 --> 01:17:43,784 -INTERVIEWER: You're back. -MEL: Yeah. 1979 01:17:43,868 --> 01:17:45,744 INTERVIEWER: Where did you go? Did you slump? Did you-- 1980 01:17:45,786 --> 01:17:47,496 MEL: No, no, no! What I tried to do is 1981 01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:50,416 I tried to marry Brooksfilms with Mel Brooks. 1982 01:17:50,499 --> 01:17:53,419 {\an8}JUDD: Life Stinks, what made you write that? 1983 01:17:53,460 --> 01:17:57,423 {\an8}MEL: Nobody had done a movie about homelessness. 1984 01:17:57,464 --> 01:17:59,341 Look out, sailor. 1985 01:17:59,425 --> 01:18:00,926 Well, there goes the neighborhood. 1986 01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:02,094 (OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 1987 01:18:02,136 --> 01:18:04,013 MEL: I said if I could show their plight 1988 01:18:04,096 --> 01:18:05,514 and make it funny... 1989 01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:07,433 Yeah, that better? 1990 01:18:07,474 --> 01:18:09,560 ...maybe the message would get through. 1991 01:18:10,352 --> 01:18:12,104 It didn't get through. 1992 01:18:12,188 --> 01:18:15,065 And I made one giant mistake. 1993 01:18:16,025 --> 01:18:18,611 The title, Life Stinks. 1994 01:18:18,694 --> 01:18:21,071 I should have said, "Please, don't come." 1995 01:18:21,697 --> 01:18:22,948 Silly, stupid. 1996 01:18:22,990 --> 01:18:24,742 INTERVIEWER: Do you then put more pressure on yourself? 1997 01:18:24,825 --> 01:18:25,826 MEL: Yes, of course. 1998 01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:27,453 {\an8}INTERVIEWER: So, when you were doing Robin Hood, 1999 01:18:27,494 --> 01:18:29,747 {\an8}were you saying to yourself, "It's gotta be good. It's gotta be good?" 2000 01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:31,290 {\an8}"Gotta make it, gotta make it, gotta make it." 2001 01:18:31,332 --> 01:18:33,375 Come on over, you look like Donald Trump tonight. 2002 01:18:33,459 --> 01:18:35,127 Things haven't been good, John. 2003 01:18:35,169 --> 01:18:37,254 -What are you do-- -Things have not been good. 2004 01:18:37,338 --> 01:18:38,255 I'm telling you, 2005 01:18:38,339 --> 01:18:40,299 -I'm very unhappy. -(JOHNNY LAUGHS) 2006 01:18:40,341 --> 01:18:42,426 I'm very unhappy ever since Spaceballs. 2007 01:18:42,509 --> 01:18:43,636 I mean... 2008 01:18:43,677 --> 01:18:46,555 -(JOHNNY LAUGHS) -(AUDIENCCE LAUGHING) 2009 01:18:47,681 --> 01:18:49,099 MAX: His career plateaued. 2010 01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:52,144 But my dad never stopped fighting. 2011 01:18:52,186 --> 01:18:53,896 Whenever he'd get a bad review, 2012 01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:57,024 whenever movies didn't do as well as he wanted, 2013 01:18:57,107 --> 01:18:59,026 he was always thinking, "I'll show 'em. 2014 01:18:59,109 --> 01:19:00,152 I'll show 'em next time, 2015 01:19:00,236 --> 01:19:01,862 or I'll find a way to make this a hit." 2016 01:19:01,946 --> 01:19:02,947 {\an8}Wait! 2017 01:19:06,992 --> 01:19:08,035 Now! 2018 01:19:13,540 --> 01:19:15,167 Oh, my... 2019 01:19:15,834 --> 01:19:16,877 God! 2020 01:19:18,045 --> 01:19:20,089 MAX: My father would never tell me about his bad days. 2021 01:19:20,172 --> 01:19:21,840 He never liked to dwell. 2022 01:19:21,924 --> 01:19:23,634 So, my mother would always be there 2023 01:19:23,717 --> 01:19:25,427 to explain why he was in a bad mood, 2024 01:19:25,511 --> 01:19:26,679 and it wasn't my fault, 2025 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,347 it wasn't anything I said or did. 2026 01:19:28,389 --> 01:19:29,515 She would say, "Listen, 2027 01:19:29,556 --> 01:19:32,643 he just went into a meeting to try to get a movie sold, 2028 01:19:32,726 --> 01:19:35,312 and there's a new studio head who is younger than him 2029 01:19:35,396 --> 01:19:37,481 and doesn't respect him and doesn't know him." 2030 01:19:39,275 --> 01:19:41,151 But people were still pushing him 2031 01:19:41,777 --> 01:19:43,445 to do something. 2032 01:19:46,031 --> 01:19:47,533 I've got something I want you to see. 2033 01:19:47,574 --> 01:19:48,701 What? Oh, no! 2034 01:19:48,784 --> 01:19:50,411 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2035 01:19:50,911 --> 01:19:52,204 This is a contract. 2036 01:19:52,871 --> 01:19:54,123 It's for The Producers. 2037 01:19:54,206 --> 01:19:56,583 We're taking it to Broadway, and I want... 2038 01:19:56,667 --> 01:19:58,377 (AUDIENCE CHEERING, APPLAUDING) 2039 01:19:58,419 --> 01:20:00,963 {\an8}NATHAN LANE: ♪ I wanna be a producer ♪ 2040 01:20:01,046 --> 01:20:03,716 ♪ With a hit show On Broadway... ♪ 2041 01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:05,384 NARRATOR: It's the hottest ticket in town 2042 01:20:05,426 --> 01:20:06,427 with an all-star cast 2043 01:20:06,510 --> 01:20:07,886 starring Tony winners 2044 01:20:07,928 --> 01:20:09,930 Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick. 2045 01:20:10,014 --> 01:20:11,890 Brooks wrote the music and lyrics 2046 01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:14,435 based on his 1968 cult classic film. 2047 01:20:14,518 --> 01:20:16,729 Let's hear it for Mel Brooks, folks. 2048 01:20:16,812 --> 01:20:19,398 (CHEERING) 2049 01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:21,900 {\an8}NATHAN: ♪ I wanna be a producer... ♪ 2050 01:20:21,984 --> 01:20:24,236 WOMAN: So, is anybody waiting to see Mel Brooks? 2051 01:20:24,278 --> 01:20:27,323 CROWD: We want Mel! We want Mel! 2052 01:20:29,408 --> 01:20:31,744 It sounds like a sure thing in a way now, 2053 01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:32,786 but I think at the time, 2054 01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:35,539 {\an8}nobody was sure it was gonna work out 2055 01:20:35,581 --> 01:20:37,583 {\an8}-making a stage version... -NATHAN: Right. 2056 01:20:37,666 --> 01:20:39,251 ...of this beloved thing. 2057 01:20:39,293 --> 01:20:40,544 {\an8}Matthew said 2058 01:20:40,627 --> 01:20:42,713 {\an8}that we came off stage after the first show 2059 01:20:42,755 --> 01:20:45,090 and he said, "Well, they even liked the bad stuff." 2060 01:20:45,132 --> 01:20:47,968 ♪ I'm gonna be a producer... ♪ 2061 01:20:48,052 --> 01:20:49,011 MEL: Thank you. 2062 01:20:49,094 --> 01:20:50,637 These people have no taste at all. 2063 01:20:50,721 --> 01:20:52,139 (LAUGHTER) 2064 01:20:52,222 --> 01:20:54,558 (SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY) Aren't you happy? 2065 01:20:54,641 --> 01:20:56,185 -Look how happy they are. -Hello. 2066 01:20:56,268 --> 01:20:57,561 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 2067 01:20:57,644 --> 01:20:59,772 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 2068 01:20:59,813 --> 01:21:02,066 MEL: My uncle Joe was a cab driver. 2069 01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:04,443 And one day, he came to me 2070 01:21:04,526 --> 01:21:07,279 and said, "Melvin, listen, I got two tickets 2071 01:21:07,363 --> 01:21:09,615 to the matinee of Anything Goes 2072 01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:12,951 with William Gaxton and Ethel Merman." 2073 01:21:12,993 --> 01:21:15,204 -♪ ("YOU'RE THE TOP" BY ETHEL MERMAN PLAYING) ♪ -I'm nine years old, 2074 01:21:15,287 --> 01:21:17,373 and I'm listening 2075 01:21:18,165 --> 01:21:19,875 to just the overture, 2076 01:21:19,958 --> 01:21:21,126 it's fantastic. 2077 01:21:21,168 --> 01:21:24,254 Ethel Merman comes out and sings, 2078 01:21:24,338 --> 01:21:26,298 "You're the top, you're the top." 2079 01:21:26,382 --> 01:21:28,967 And we're about three miles away, 2080 01:21:29,051 --> 01:21:30,302 she's still too loud. 2081 01:21:30,386 --> 01:21:31,720 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2082 01:21:31,804 --> 01:21:33,806 ETHEL MERMAN: ♪ You're the top... ♪ 2083 01:21:35,349 --> 01:21:37,434 MEL: When I left the theater, I said, 2084 01:21:37,476 --> 01:21:40,687 "Uncle Joe, I'm gonna write a Broadway show." 2085 01:21:41,730 --> 01:21:43,774 And 60 years later, 2086 01:21:43,857 --> 01:21:46,568 here we have The Producers on Broadway 2087 01:21:46,652 --> 01:21:47,861 with an entire score... 2088 01:21:47,945 --> 01:21:49,154 ♪ (GLISSANDO PLAYING ON PIANO) ♪ 2089 01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:50,239 ...by Mel Brooks. 2090 01:21:50,322 --> 01:21:53,325 ♪ Oh, it's bad luck To say "good luck" ♪ 2091 01:21:53,367 --> 01:21:56,328 ♪ On opening night if you do ♪ 2092 01:21:56,412 --> 01:21:58,539 You're serious, this is the way you write? 2093 01:21:58,622 --> 01:22:00,249 I write into a tape recorder. 2094 01:22:00,332 --> 01:22:02,126 NARRATOR: And into his tape recorder, 2095 01:22:02,167 --> 01:22:05,254 he has sung the music and lyrics to some 16 new songs, 2096 01:22:05,337 --> 01:22:07,840 and along with his collaborator, Tom Meehan, 2097 01:22:07,881 --> 01:22:10,050 {\an8}he's written the script for the show. 2098 01:22:10,134 --> 01:22:12,344 {\an8}Last December, in a Broadway rehearsal hall, 2099 01:22:12,386 --> 01:22:14,930 the cast and crew gathered for the first time. 2100 01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:16,557 MATTHEW BRODERICK: Matthew Broderick, Leo Bloom. 2101 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,058 Nathan Lane, Max. 2102 01:22:18,142 --> 01:22:20,352 Mel Brooks, Jew extraordinaire. 2103 01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:21,478 (CAST LAUGHING) 2104 01:22:21,562 --> 01:22:24,231 {\an8}I got the call about meeting him. 2105 01:22:24,314 --> 01:22:26,400 {\an8}I didn't really know what it was about. 2106 01:22:26,483 --> 01:22:28,193 And there was a knock on the door, 2107 01:22:28,277 --> 01:22:29,528 and I opened the door, 2108 01:22:29,611 --> 01:22:31,738 but instead of saying "hello," 2109 01:22:32,364 --> 01:22:34,491 Mel launched into a song. 2110 01:22:34,533 --> 01:22:38,078 ♪ That face, that face That fabulous face ♪ 2111 01:22:38,162 --> 01:22:40,038 And he walked right past me, 2112 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,707 down my hallway, 2113 01:22:41,790 --> 01:22:44,585 into my living room, singing that song full out, 2114 01:22:44,668 --> 01:22:46,587 ends up on top of the sofa, 2115 01:22:46,670 --> 01:22:49,214 looks down at me and says, "Hello, I'm Mel Brooks." 2116 01:22:49,298 --> 01:22:51,884 Is it "Wanna be a producer," or, "I'm gonna be"? 2117 01:22:51,967 --> 01:22:54,178 MATTHEW: I think it's "wanna be a" there. I'm never sure. 2118 01:22:54,219 --> 01:22:56,346 It should be "Wanna be" there, because it's everything I'm not. 2119 01:22:56,430 --> 01:22:58,265 SUSAN STROMAN: Let's do "wanna" there. I think we might... 2120 01:22:58,348 --> 01:22:59,558 {\an8}♪ I wanna be... ♪ 2121 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,769 {\an8}SUSAN: My husband and I, they came to us as a team first, 2122 01:23:03,729 --> 01:23:06,273 {\an8}but soon after they came to us, 2123 01:23:06,356 --> 01:23:08,984 Mike was diagnosed with leukemia, 2124 01:23:09,526 --> 01:23:10,611 and... 2125 01:23:11,987 --> 01:23:13,614 we thought he would get over it, 2126 01:23:13,697 --> 01:23:15,449 we thought he would get through it. 2127 01:23:15,532 --> 01:23:18,076 But after he was diagnosed, 2128 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,413 he passed about 18 months later. 2129 01:23:22,581 --> 01:23:25,000 We had worked on the show, but then it stopped. 2130 01:23:25,959 --> 01:23:28,712 Two months after Mike passed, 2131 01:23:28,795 --> 01:23:31,131 Mel and Tom came to my door. 2132 01:23:32,007 --> 01:23:33,133 Mel said, 2133 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,260 "You've got to do this." 2134 01:23:35,302 --> 01:23:36,553 He said, 2135 01:23:36,637 --> 01:23:37,846 "You have to do this. 2136 01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:39,640 You will... 2137 01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:41,767 cry in the morning, 2138 01:23:41,808 --> 01:23:43,936 and you will cry at night, 2139 01:23:44,019 --> 01:23:48,607 but in between, you will laugh, and I will make you laugh. 2140 01:23:48,649 --> 01:23:50,400 That's why you have to do this." 2141 01:23:51,693 --> 01:23:54,821 So, uh, after he said that, I... 2142 01:23:55,572 --> 01:23:57,950 I said yes, and we were off. 2143 01:23:58,033 --> 01:24:01,620 Stop. Keep your feet still. And then we'll go ahead. 2144 01:24:01,662 --> 01:24:03,622 And he was right. 2145 01:24:03,664 --> 01:24:05,499 I would cry in the morning and cry at night, 2146 01:24:05,582 --> 01:24:07,960 but from 10:00 to 06:00 in that rehearsal room, 2147 01:24:08,001 --> 01:24:09,336 I would laugh 2148 01:24:09,419 --> 01:24:10,504 with Mel Brooks, 2149 01:24:10,587 --> 01:24:12,130 and the funniest cast on Broadway. 2150 01:24:12,214 --> 01:24:14,633 MEL: In between takes, Matthew likes to work out. 2151 01:24:14,716 --> 01:24:15,759 (CAST LAUGHING) 2152 01:24:15,842 --> 01:24:17,094 SUSAN: And it ended up saving me. 2153 01:24:18,053 --> 01:24:19,096 Totally saving me. 2154 01:24:21,098 --> 01:24:23,684 ♪ I used to be the king ♪ 2155 01:24:23,767 --> 01:24:24,935 ♪ The king! ♪ 2156 01:24:25,018 --> 01:24:27,688 ♪ The king of old Broadway ♪ 2157 01:24:27,771 --> 01:24:28,981 It's good to be the king. 2158 01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:30,649 NATHAN: ♪ My praises... ♪ 2159 01:24:30,732 --> 01:24:33,193 MAX: The best moment of his career, for me, 2160 01:24:33,277 --> 01:24:35,153 on the sidelines, 2161 01:24:35,237 --> 01:24:38,156 was watching him do The Producers. 2162 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,202 It reminded me of the Mel Brooks that my mother told me about 2163 01:24:42,286 --> 01:24:44,204 when she first met him, 2164 01:24:44,288 --> 01:24:45,789 the guy who was just excited 2165 01:24:45,831 --> 01:24:47,833 to create something from nothing. 2166 01:24:47,874 --> 01:24:50,836 It was the first time in my life I saw Mel Brooks, the artist. 2167 01:24:50,877 --> 01:24:53,505 ALL: ♪ We believe each word We've heard ♪ 2168 01:24:53,547 --> 01:24:57,676 ♪ There was a time When I was young and gay ♪ 2169 01:24:57,718 --> 01:24:58,677 ♪ But straight... ♪ 2170 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,178 I was able to have 2171 01:25:00,262 --> 01:25:02,472 a third-row seat to The Producers, 2172 01:25:03,515 --> 01:25:05,267 and it changed my life. 2173 01:25:07,060 --> 01:25:09,354 It showed me the potential 2174 01:25:09,396 --> 01:25:11,273 of what musical comedy could be again. 2175 01:25:11,356 --> 01:25:15,360 NATHAN: ♪ I touched Would turn to gold... ♪ 2176 01:25:15,444 --> 01:25:19,489 JOSH: Without The Producers, Book of Mormon doesn't exist. 2177 01:25:19,573 --> 01:25:23,201 It was built on the back of, 2178 01:25:23,285 --> 01:25:27,539 once again, Mel Brooks taking a sledgehammer 2179 01:25:27,623 --> 01:25:31,752 to what we understood musical comedy theater to be, 2180 01:25:31,835 --> 01:25:34,880 and showing us a whole new way. 2181 01:25:34,921 --> 01:25:37,215 NATHAN: ♪ That's the time To stand up on your two feet ♪ 2182 01:25:37,257 --> 01:25:38,383 ♪ And shout ♪ 2183 01:25:38,467 --> 01:25:41,094 ♪ Who do you have to fuck To get a break in this town? ♪ 2184 01:25:41,178 --> 01:25:42,721 CROWD: Yeah! 2185 01:25:42,763 --> 01:25:45,432 JUDD: Was that more fun than everything you ever did? 2186 01:25:45,515 --> 01:25:47,851 MEL: It was downright thrilling. Thrilling. 2187 01:25:49,269 --> 01:25:50,937 JUDD: Isn't it just months and months 2188 01:25:51,021 --> 01:25:52,564 of rewrites and previews, and... 2189 01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:54,274 Yeah, well, 2190 01:25:54,358 --> 01:25:56,818 I'm very talented. 2191 01:25:56,902 --> 01:25:58,904 When you got a talented guy like me, 2192 01:25:58,987 --> 01:26:00,656 you don't need many rewrites. 2193 01:26:01,948 --> 01:26:04,910 The true payment is never money. 2194 01:26:04,951 --> 01:26:08,413 It's the joy of seeing your show on the stage, 2195 01:26:08,455 --> 01:26:10,874 and having people laugh and cry and applaud. 2196 01:26:10,957 --> 01:26:13,585 I mean, there's no greater payment in the world. 2197 01:26:13,669 --> 01:26:14,753 And I realized 2198 01:26:14,836 --> 01:26:16,421 that my true passion, 2199 01:26:16,505 --> 01:26:17,798 the reason I got into show business 2200 01:26:17,881 --> 01:26:19,383 was for that. 2201 01:26:21,176 --> 01:26:25,764 ♪ Bialystock will be on top ♪ 2202 01:26:25,806 --> 01:26:27,599 -♪ Again ♪ -♪ Fame is in his sights again ♪ 2203 01:26:27,641 --> 01:26:29,267 ♪ He'll take Those fancy flights again ♪ 2204 01:26:29,309 --> 01:26:30,560 ♪ He's gonna Scale the heights again ♪ 2205 01:26:30,602 --> 01:26:33,230 -♪ I'll be on top again, hey! ♪ -♪ I'll be on top again, hey! ♪ 2206 01:26:33,271 --> 01:26:36,149 By the way, The Producers won a few awards. 2207 01:26:36,817 --> 01:26:39,403 It actually has 12 Tonys. 2208 01:26:40,529 --> 01:26:45,242 Still more than any other Broadway show ever. 2209 01:26:45,325 --> 01:26:46,618 JUDD: Hamilton got close. 2210 01:26:46,660 --> 01:26:47,911 Eleven. Scared me. 2211 01:26:47,994 --> 01:26:49,121 {\an8}(JUDD CHUCKLES) 2212 01:26:49,204 --> 01:26:50,288 {\an8}MEL: The other night, 2213 01:26:50,372 --> 01:26:53,125 {\an8}I sang at the karaoke club, and then you got up. 2214 01:26:53,208 --> 01:26:54,376 Yeah, he was-- Right. 2215 01:26:54,459 --> 01:26:57,462 MEL: And the audience went pretty wild for me. 2216 01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:59,798 And then you sang "Swanee," 2217 01:26:59,881 --> 01:27:01,591 and they went crazy. 2218 01:27:02,300 --> 01:27:04,761 I want you, Larry David, 2219 01:27:04,803 --> 01:27:08,223 to be the next Max Bialystock on Broadway. 2220 01:27:10,517 --> 01:27:12,561 {\an8}MEL: After we laughed... Thank God. 2221 01:27:12,644 --> 01:27:13,645 {\an8}Thank God what? 2222 01:27:13,729 --> 01:27:15,647 Thank God this show is coming to an end. 2223 01:27:15,689 --> 01:27:17,941 -This show is coming to an end. -Oh, God, yes, right. 2224 01:27:19,943 --> 01:27:21,403 -Oh, honey. -What? 2225 01:27:21,486 --> 01:27:23,196 -ANNE: Stick that hair up. -Oh. 2226 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,115 -(CREW LAUGHING) -CREW 1: Here we go. 2227 01:27:25,198 --> 01:27:27,743 -Is it there? Still there? -ANNE: No, it's gone. 2228 01:27:27,826 --> 01:27:29,828 -CREW 2: Ready? -CREW 3: Ready. 2229 01:27:29,911 --> 01:27:31,621 -(MEL CHUCKLES) -CREW 1: Action. 2230 01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:35,375 (MEL AND ANNE LAUGHING) 2231 01:27:35,459 --> 01:27:37,335 Did you see the look on their faces? 2232 01:27:37,377 --> 01:27:38,503 (LAUGHING) 2233 01:27:38,545 --> 01:27:41,131 When Larry David forgot every line, he... 2234 01:27:41,173 --> 01:27:43,842 -(ANNE LAUGHS LOUDLY) -...he went up in smoke. 2235 01:27:43,884 --> 01:27:45,010 Oh my... 2236 01:27:45,093 --> 01:27:48,513 Thank God. Thank God this show is gonna be over. 2237 01:27:48,597 --> 01:27:50,348 Thank God. Oh, God. 2238 01:27:50,390 --> 01:27:51,683 CHARLIE: You and Mr. Brooks 2239 01:27:51,767 --> 01:27:55,187 have one of the great relationships. 2240 01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:56,354 Oh! 2241 01:27:56,438 --> 01:27:58,356 CHARLIE: You had-- No one's ever mentioned this to you? 2242 01:27:58,440 --> 01:27:59,900 -No. -CHARLIE: That there is this assumption? 2243 01:27:59,983 --> 01:28:01,526 -Let me tell you something. -CHARLIE: All right. 2244 01:28:01,568 --> 01:28:02,861 -You know what magic is? -CHARLIE: What? 2245 01:28:02,944 --> 01:28:04,237 -Hard work. -CHARLIE: It is? 2246 01:28:04,321 --> 01:28:05,363 That's what magic is. 2247 01:28:05,405 --> 01:28:06,990 Yeah, it's hard work. 2248 01:28:07,032 --> 01:28:08,825 We'll be able to sleep in, you and me together, babe, 2249 01:28:08,909 --> 01:28:10,827 -like it used to be. -Yes. Yes. 2250 01:28:10,911 --> 01:28:12,913 -Without calls late at night. -Oh, God. 2251 01:28:12,996 --> 01:28:14,539 -(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) -(ANNE LAUGHS) 2252 01:28:14,581 --> 01:28:16,208 ANNE: You have to be aware, 2253 01:28:16,291 --> 01:28:19,711 and you have to want to say, "How are you?" 2254 01:28:19,795 --> 01:28:21,004 And really wanna listen 2255 01:28:21,087 --> 01:28:22,297 to what he's got to say. 2256 01:28:22,380 --> 01:28:24,800 You can't just say, "How are you?" (HUMMING) 2257 01:28:24,883 --> 01:28:26,593 You know, and go off and do something else 2258 01:28:26,676 --> 01:28:28,762 -while he's telling you. -CHARLIE: Yeah, right. 2259 01:28:28,845 --> 01:28:30,722 You really have to care, and you have to be interested. 2260 01:28:30,764 --> 01:28:34,100 And I think I am. I'm very interested in him. 2261 01:28:34,184 --> 01:28:37,479 And he's... I hope, very interested in me. 2262 01:28:37,562 --> 01:28:38,730 The marriage itself, 2263 01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:40,398 people would have bet against it. 2264 01:28:40,482 --> 01:28:41,483 -Right. -Jewish lunatic. 2265 01:28:41,566 --> 01:28:42,567 -Yeah, right. -Right? 2266 01:28:42,609 --> 01:28:45,403 An Italian tempestuous woman who's a great-- 2267 01:28:45,445 --> 01:28:46,947 -Absolutely. -LARRY KING: Great actress. 2268 01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:48,448 -Right. -But it's worked. 2269 01:28:48,532 --> 01:28:50,325 -MEL: It's worked for-- -What's the secret? 2270 01:28:50,408 --> 01:28:52,869 MEL: We fight, we yell at each other, we get it out. 2271 01:28:52,953 --> 01:28:54,579 We never go to bed angry. 2272 01:28:54,621 --> 01:28:55,789 And we love each other. 2273 01:28:55,872 --> 01:28:57,582 She's the greatest woman that ever lived. 2274 01:28:57,666 --> 01:28:59,960 Here's to the death of The Producers. 2275 01:29:00,043 --> 01:29:01,586 -To the death! -Thank you, Larry David. 2276 01:29:01,628 --> 01:29:02,879 (CHUCKLES) 2277 01:29:05,382 --> 01:29:06,883 -(SIGHS) -(EXHALES DEEPLY) 2278 01:29:07,634 --> 01:29:10,804 (BOTH LAUGHING) 2279 01:29:11,721 --> 01:29:13,056 (ANNE LAUGHING) 2280 01:29:14,724 --> 01:29:16,059 ADAM: I was in a movie 2281 01:29:16,142 --> 01:29:18,603 that Anne Bancroft was in, Spanglish. 2282 01:29:18,687 --> 01:29:21,815 I got to know her, rehearsed, did lots of rehearsal, 2283 01:29:21,898 --> 01:29:24,150 and then lots of shooting. 2284 01:29:24,234 --> 01:29:26,278 And she knew Mel. 2285 01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:27,779 There was something extra about that. 2286 01:29:27,863 --> 01:29:29,781 It's like, "You get to hang out with Mel every day, 2287 01:29:29,823 --> 01:29:30,949 and he loves you?" 2288 01:29:31,032 --> 01:29:32,367 And, "Wow, man." 2289 01:29:32,450 --> 01:29:34,870 JUDD: It gives us hope, a woman like that loves Mel? 2290 01:29:34,953 --> 01:29:36,121 Yes. 2291 01:29:36,204 --> 01:29:38,456 Yeah, he opened the door for all of us ugly guys, 2292 01:29:38,540 --> 01:29:39,541 especially you. 2293 01:29:39,624 --> 01:29:40,750 (JUDD AND ADAM LAUGH) 2294 01:29:43,003 --> 01:29:44,796 ADAM: But then Anne got sick. 2295 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,632 And, um, Cloris Leachman ended up 2296 01:29:47,716 --> 01:29:49,801 taking over for her part. 2297 01:29:49,885 --> 01:29:52,304 And that was devastating. 2298 01:29:52,345 --> 01:29:53,680 JUDD: She didn't know she was sick 2299 01:29:53,763 --> 01:29:54,806 when you guys started? 2300 01:29:54,848 --> 01:29:55,974 Started, everything's fine, 2301 01:29:56,016 --> 01:29:57,934 and then something over the weekend, 2302 01:29:58,018 --> 01:29:59,185 had some tests and stuff, 2303 01:29:59,269 --> 01:30:01,813 and then that was-- It was... 2304 01:30:03,356 --> 01:30:05,150 better for her not to be there anymore, 2305 01:30:05,191 --> 01:30:07,027 and just be home with the family. 2306 01:30:09,613 --> 01:30:11,364 MAX: She had had cancer. 2307 01:30:11,865 --> 01:30:12,866 She beat it. 2308 01:30:13,617 --> 01:30:14,659 It came back. 2309 01:30:15,911 --> 01:30:17,871 It was a slow, horrible, lingering time, 2310 01:30:17,954 --> 01:30:19,873 and anybody who's ever lost a loved one 2311 01:30:19,956 --> 01:30:22,375 to cancer knows exactly what I'm talking about. 2312 01:30:22,459 --> 01:30:24,419 The peaks, the valleys, the false hopes, 2313 01:30:24,502 --> 01:30:25,879 the waiting for tests, 2314 01:30:25,962 --> 01:30:27,422 the horrible despair 2315 01:30:27,505 --> 01:30:29,674 when your tests come back, and two things lit up. 2316 01:30:29,758 --> 01:30:30,717 That's what my dad... 2317 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,177 That's the phrase he always repeats. 2318 01:30:32,218 --> 01:30:33,511 Two things lit up 2319 01:30:33,595 --> 01:30:36,514 when they were talking about one of her scans. 2320 01:30:38,391 --> 01:30:39,601 "We got a bad break." 2321 01:30:40,477 --> 01:30:41,853 And that's how he refers to it. 2322 01:30:41,895 --> 01:30:43,396 "We got a bad break." 2323 01:30:51,029 --> 01:30:52,530 EDDIE BROOKS: Oh, all the light went out. 2324 01:30:52,614 --> 01:30:55,700 I mean, he was not in a good place. 2325 01:30:58,703 --> 01:31:01,706 {\an8}You know, we just... we never dreamed that 2326 01:31:01,748 --> 01:31:04,709 {\an8}Anne would either get sick, 2327 01:31:04,793 --> 01:31:07,420 and ultimately pass away, and... 2328 01:31:08,672 --> 01:31:10,131 he just worshipped her. 2329 01:31:11,341 --> 01:31:13,385 She was incredibly supportive 2330 01:31:13,426 --> 01:31:16,721 of these chances that he was taking, 2331 01:31:16,763 --> 01:31:19,307 and she was the one to say, 2332 01:31:19,391 --> 01:31:21,977 "I believe in it, and I believe in you. 2333 01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:23,979 Of course you can write the songs. 2334 01:31:24,771 --> 01:31:26,564 You're a songwriter." 2335 01:31:26,606 --> 01:31:29,150 And he'd be like, "Oh, yeah, I am a songwriter." 2336 01:31:30,610 --> 01:31:32,737 And so, if it came from her, 2337 01:31:32,821 --> 01:31:36,032 then it was like the Gospel. "Okay, I can do it." 2338 01:31:37,075 --> 01:31:39,244 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 2339 01:31:39,911 --> 01:31:41,454 She was his best friend. 2340 01:31:42,414 --> 01:31:44,582 It was the two of them against the world. 2341 01:31:46,292 --> 01:31:49,295 My dad was the water, my mother was the glass. 2342 01:31:50,463 --> 01:31:51,715 And when the glass shattered, 2343 01:31:51,756 --> 01:31:53,800 I was worried the water was gonna go everywhere. 2344 01:31:59,389 --> 01:32:01,057 NATHAN: There was a memorial for her. 2345 01:32:03,309 --> 01:32:06,021 People spoke very movingly about her. 2346 01:32:07,939 --> 01:32:09,274 And he came out, and he said, 2347 01:32:09,357 --> 01:32:11,067 "Thank you very much for being here." 2348 01:32:11,151 --> 01:32:12,110 He said, "It was... 2349 01:32:12,152 --> 01:32:13,611 she would have really loved this." 2350 01:32:13,653 --> 01:32:17,615 And he said, "Some people spoke beautifully. 2351 01:32:17,699 --> 01:32:19,617 Some people talked a little too long." 2352 01:32:19,701 --> 01:32:21,703 (BOTH CHUCKLING) 2353 01:32:21,786 --> 01:32:22,871 And he said... 2354 01:32:24,247 --> 01:32:25,457 "Do me a favor. 2355 01:32:25,498 --> 01:32:26,833 If you see me... 2356 01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:29,586 uh... 2357 01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:33,923 don't come up and tell me... don't cry and don't tell me, 2358 01:32:34,966 --> 01:32:37,302 uh, how terrible you feel because... 2359 01:32:38,386 --> 01:32:40,346 I have enough fucking tears of my own." 2360 01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:45,185 {\an8}Hello. 2361 01:32:45,268 --> 01:32:46,311 {\an8}MEL: Okay. 2362 01:32:46,394 --> 01:32:48,188 JERRY SEINFELD: You're ready for Jeopardy, I can see. 2363 01:32:48,271 --> 01:32:50,482 {\an8}ALEX TREBEK: (OVER TV) We're gonna take a break. 2364 01:32:50,565 --> 01:32:52,150 {\an8}-CARL: Did you bring food? -JERRY: I did. 2365 01:32:52,233 --> 01:32:53,651 -Look who's here, Mel. -Hi, Mel. 2366 01:32:53,735 --> 01:32:55,487 -What did you bring? Come on. -JERRY: I don't know. 2367 01:32:55,528 --> 01:32:56,696 Relay. 2368 01:32:56,780 --> 01:33:00,158 They know Jews are eating it, so they give you extra napkins. 2369 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,534 -And look... -MEL: Is that true? 2370 01:33:01,618 --> 01:33:02,827 JERRY: Hey, look at this. 2371 01:33:02,869 --> 01:33:04,829 There's Mel on the cover of the DGA Quarterly. 2372 01:33:04,913 --> 01:33:06,748 Ah, see, I put it there thinking you might-- 2373 01:33:06,831 --> 01:33:08,458 What a great shot. You gotta love that. 2374 01:33:08,541 --> 01:33:10,752 MEL: I have never been recognized 2375 01:33:10,835 --> 01:33:14,130 by the DGA, or by Hollywood as being a director. 2376 01:33:14,214 --> 01:33:17,342 I'm always recognized as a comic, 2377 01:33:17,425 --> 01:33:20,678 as a producer, as an entrepreneur, 2378 01:33:20,762 --> 01:33:22,013 as a pain in the ass. 2379 01:33:22,055 --> 01:33:24,432 I have never been, ever, 2380 01:33:24,516 --> 01:33:25,850 recognized as director. 2381 01:33:25,934 --> 01:33:28,228 They finally came... have come to their senses, 2382 01:33:28,311 --> 01:33:31,231 and realized I've directed a couple of dozen movies. 2383 01:33:31,314 --> 01:33:33,024 -JERRY: Yeah. -So, maybe I'm a director too. 2384 01:33:33,108 --> 01:33:35,318 JERRY: Does it mean anything at this point or screw them? 2385 01:33:35,401 --> 01:33:37,946 I can get a job. I can get a job as a director out of that. 2386 01:33:38,029 --> 01:33:39,239 Where's the mustard? 2387 01:33:40,406 --> 01:33:42,033 I don't see any mustard. 2388 01:33:42,075 --> 01:33:44,744 SARAH: Mel lost his wife, and then Carl lost his wife, 2389 01:33:44,828 --> 01:33:46,204 and every night, 2390 01:33:46,246 --> 01:33:49,916 they spent together at Carl's in his little living room 2391 01:33:49,999 --> 01:33:52,377 with TV trays, eating dinner, 2392 01:33:52,460 --> 01:33:54,337 and watching a different movie every night. 2393 01:33:54,379 --> 01:33:57,048 I just love that kind of friendship. 2394 01:33:57,132 --> 01:34:01,094 Hitler had that mustache because he admired Chaplin. 2395 01:34:01,177 --> 01:34:04,055 -Is that possible? -Oh, yeah, Chaplin had it first. 2396 01:34:04,097 --> 01:34:06,516 I would say that statement is utter nonsense. 2397 01:34:06,599 --> 01:34:07,642 SARAH: When people go, like, 2398 01:34:07,725 --> 01:34:09,602 "Where do you see yourself in five years and ten years? 2399 01:34:09,686 --> 01:34:10,728 What's your goal?" 2400 01:34:10,770 --> 01:34:14,023 I wanna be able to have that kind of community 2401 01:34:14,107 --> 01:34:16,526 with comics that they had with each other. 2402 01:34:16,568 --> 01:34:18,987 Mel, tell me about this ritual a little bit, 2403 01:34:19,070 --> 01:34:21,531 because I have to say, just personally, 2404 01:34:21,614 --> 01:34:25,285 I find it fascinating and comforting 2405 01:34:25,994 --> 01:34:28,580 that you have this routine. 2406 01:34:28,621 --> 01:34:29,789 I think men 2407 01:34:29,873 --> 01:34:32,292 are very comforted by their routines. 2408 01:34:33,668 --> 01:34:35,253 Especially their bowels. 2409 01:34:35,295 --> 01:34:36,421 Yeah. (CHUCKLES) 2410 01:34:36,462 --> 01:34:38,756 We always used to go to Carl's house, right? 2411 01:34:38,798 --> 01:34:42,343 And they'd just fall asleep, but never at the same time. 2412 01:34:43,136 --> 01:34:44,637 So, one would fall asleep, 2413 01:34:44,721 --> 01:34:46,472 and then the other one would go... 2414 01:34:48,308 --> 01:34:49,517 -(MEL SNORING) -Jesus Christ. 2415 01:34:50,685 --> 01:34:52,854 -(MEL SNORING) -(JERRY CHUCKLES) 2416 01:34:52,937 --> 01:34:53,938 Then they'd fall asleep, 2417 01:34:53,980 --> 01:34:55,398 the other one would wake up, and go... 2418 01:34:55,481 --> 01:34:56,733 (MEL SNORING) 2419 01:34:58,109 --> 01:34:59,611 -All right, well... -Okay. 2420 01:34:59,652 --> 01:35:03,781 {\an8}It was a little invasive on my part to ask, 2421 01:35:03,865 --> 01:35:07,744 {\an8}but what a great thing that that exists, you know? 2422 01:35:07,827 --> 01:35:09,662 You get to see what they did, 2423 01:35:10,496 --> 01:35:13,333 where a lifetime of gigantic achievements 2424 01:35:13,416 --> 01:35:15,084 leads you. 2425 01:35:15,168 --> 01:35:18,963 A living room with deli sandwiches, 2426 01:35:19,005 --> 01:35:20,340 watching Wheel of Fortune. 2427 01:35:20,423 --> 01:35:22,342 That's where you get 2428 01:35:22,425 --> 01:35:25,595 if you succeed in every possible way in life. 2429 01:35:25,678 --> 01:35:26,888 Okay, turn it off already. 2430 01:35:26,971 --> 01:35:28,348 -CARL: Turn it off. -(LAUGHS) 2431 01:35:28,431 --> 01:35:30,808 We're following him out. Come on, Carl, let's get... 2432 01:35:30,892 --> 01:35:33,311 CARL: He's got a good-- Mel, did you see his green car? 2433 01:35:33,353 --> 01:35:35,855 ♪ I've been away from you A long time ♪ 2434 01:35:35,939 --> 01:35:37,023 ♪ I never thought ♪ 2435 01:35:37,106 --> 01:35:39,317 ♪ Somehow I feel Your love is real near you ♪ 2436 01:35:39,359 --> 01:35:40,610 ♪ Is it really? ♪ 2437 01:35:40,693 --> 01:35:42,153 ♪ I wanna be... ♪ 2438 01:35:42,195 --> 01:35:43,529 JERRY: Let's go, everybody out. 2439 01:35:43,613 --> 01:35:44,656 MEL: No, no, no, wait. 2440 01:35:44,739 --> 01:35:46,407 CARL: Well, we have to sing L'chaim first. 2441 01:35:46,491 --> 01:35:48,201 ♪ L’chaim! L'chaim! ♪ 2442 01:35:48,284 --> 01:35:51,329 Jerry, what's the difference between a Jew and a Frenchman? 2443 01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:54,082 A Frenchman leaves without saying goodbye. 2444 01:35:54,165 --> 01:35:56,000 -JERRY: Yeah. -CARL: And a Jew... 2445 01:35:56,084 --> 01:35:58,628 -Says goodbye and never leaves. -JERRY: Says goodbye and... 2446 01:35:58,711 --> 01:35:59,837 JERRY: (CHUCKLES) That's great. 2447 01:35:59,879 --> 01:36:01,631 MEL: Carl, where did you hear that? 2448 01:36:01,673 --> 01:36:03,967 JERRY: That was great. Did you ever hear that joke? 2449 01:36:04,050 --> 01:36:05,385 CARL: Mel, we have to watch Jeopardy. 2450 01:36:05,468 --> 01:36:06,511 MEL: Okay. 2451 01:36:08,263 --> 01:36:10,640 CARL: That was a perfect ending. 2452 01:36:10,723 --> 01:36:12,517 There was no question that he's gonna-- 2453 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,478 Whatever he decides to do, when he decides to do, 2454 01:36:15,561 --> 01:36:16,646 it's gonna work, 2455 01:36:16,729 --> 01:36:19,482 because there was a, what I call, 2456 01:36:19,565 --> 01:36:21,901 he hates the word, is a genius mind at work. 2457 01:36:21,985 --> 01:36:24,529 And I use the word "genius" not lightly. 2458 01:36:24,570 --> 01:36:25,863 I understand the word. 2459 01:36:25,947 --> 01:36:28,032 Genius has to not only produce 2460 01:36:28,574 --> 01:36:30,034 something really good, 2461 01:36:30,118 --> 01:36:31,869 but a volume of it. 2462 01:36:31,911 --> 01:36:34,080 And Mel, look at the volume he's produced. 2463 01:36:34,163 --> 01:36:36,374 Goodnight, everybody. Wonderful working with you. 2464 01:36:36,457 --> 01:36:37,917 CARL: And if somebody wants to argue, 2465 01:36:38,001 --> 01:36:39,377 they can, but they won't win. 2466 01:36:39,460 --> 01:36:41,045 Sooner or later, you've gotta stop. 2467 01:36:41,129 --> 01:36:43,339 And you know what? It's like an addiction. 2468 01:36:47,635 --> 01:36:49,470 ROB: Mel was there when my dad died. 2469 01:36:51,347 --> 01:36:52,724 My dad was in the bathroom, 2470 01:36:52,765 --> 01:36:55,101 and he just collapsed in the bathroom. 2471 01:36:55,184 --> 01:36:58,438 And Mel came back and realized, "Uh-oh, something's wrong." 2472 01:36:58,521 --> 01:37:00,315 And my dad died, like, 2473 01:37:01,107 --> 01:37:02,233 right after that. 2474 01:37:03,192 --> 01:37:05,945 For months, months, months, 2475 01:37:06,029 --> 01:37:07,989 he would come to the house 2476 01:37:08,823 --> 01:37:10,533 after my father died. 2477 01:37:10,616 --> 01:37:12,327 He would come to the house, 2478 01:37:12,410 --> 01:37:16,039 sit there, watch television, and have dinner. 2479 01:37:16,122 --> 01:37:17,915 And he did that for months. 2480 01:37:17,957 --> 01:37:20,126 And he told us, the family, he said, 2481 01:37:20,209 --> 01:37:21,169 "You don't-- Let me know 2482 01:37:21,252 --> 01:37:22,628 when you're gonna sell the house." 2483 01:37:22,712 --> 01:37:25,423 I mean, you know, at some point we're gonna sell the house. 2484 01:37:25,506 --> 01:37:27,425 And I said, "Yeah, yeah." And then I said, 2485 01:37:27,467 --> 01:37:30,386 "Well, maybe it's better you just... 2486 01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:33,598 you know, we'll stage the house with you in it, you know? 2487 01:37:33,681 --> 01:37:35,016 Maybe it'll up the value. 2488 01:37:35,099 --> 01:37:37,727 You know, you get-- Mel Brooks is sitting here, you can..." 2489 01:37:37,769 --> 01:37:40,563 But he was that close to my dad where he kept-- 2490 01:37:40,646 --> 01:37:44,025 He wanted to be close to him even when my dad was gone. 2491 01:37:44,984 --> 01:37:47,653 You were with Carl in his final moments. 2492 01:37:47,737 --> 01:37:49,614 That's a beautiful thing for Carl, isn't it? 2493 01:37:49,655 --> 01:37:51,741 I was still hoping that they would, 2494 01:37:51,824 --> 01:37:53,159 you know, put the stuff on him, 2495 01:37:53,242 --> 01:37:55,328 -and boom, you know, and... -JUDD: Yeah. 2496 01:37:55,411 --> 01:37:56,496 ...get him up. 2497 01:37:57,413 --> 01:37:58,998 And I kept... 2498 01:37:59,082 --> 01:38:01,793 I kept yelling at them, "Keep it up, keep it up." 2499 01:38:01,876 --> 01:38:03,211 And they thought I was crazy 2500 01:38:03,294 --> 01:38:06,214 after an hour of yelling at them, 2501 01:38:06,297 --> 01:38:08,007 "Keep it up. Keep that machine on him. 2502 01:38:08,091 --> 01:38:09,092 Keep it up." 2503 01:38:09,175 --> 01:38:10,176 I wouldn't-- 2504 01:38:10,259 --> 01:38:11,886 -I just didn't want him to go. -JUDD: Yeah. 2505 01:38:11,969 --> 01:38:14,597 I just couldn't-- Well, I wouldn't accept it. 2506 01:38:16,432 --> 01:38:17,725 I loved him so much. 2507 01:38:23,731 --> 01:38:25,191 INTERVIEWER: You said a lovely thing once, 2508 01:38:25,274 --> 01:38:27,276 "Comedy is the opposite of death." 2509 01:38:28,194 --> 01:38:29,362 What did you mean by that? 2510 01:38:29,445 --> 01:38:33,699 Well, when you're dead, you're very... it's very quiet. 2511 01:38:34,242 --> 01:38:35,660 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2512 01:38:35,701 --> 01:38:39,455 It's very-- You can hardly-- You never go anywhere, you know? 2513 01:38:39,539 --> 01:38:41,332 -No one could. Yeah. -MEL: You never see anything. 2514 01:38:41,374 --> 01:38:44,210 But-- I mean-- But comedy is lively. 2515 01:38:44,293 --> 01:38:46,003 Comedy is joy, you know? 2516 01:38:46,045 --> 01:38:48,089 And that's what keeps us going. 2517 01:38:48,172 --> 01:38:50,174 I mean, we've gotta look forward to... 2518 01:38:50,216 --> 01:38:53,302 to little happinesses, you know, little joys. 2519 01:38:54,137 --> 01:38:55,805 My very first question. 2520 01:38:55,888 --> 01:38:57,390 Samantha's my granddaughter, by the way. 2521 01:38:57,473 --> 01:38:59,642 Right, yeah. We're also very good friends. 2522 01:38:59,684 --> 01:39:02,228 Yeah, and we're good friends, and we like each other. 2523 01:39:02,311 --> 01:39:04,397 (SIGHS) Do I call you enough? 2524 01:39:05,648 --> 01:39:07,525 Um, when you call me, you talk a lot, 2525 01:39:07,567 --> 01:39:09,152 and it's great. 2526 01:39:09,235 --> 01:39:11,529 But I would like more calls, 2527 01:39:11,612 --> 01:39:13,865 and I don't get a chance 2528 01:39:13,906 --> 01:39:16,200 to see you... enough of you. 2529 01:39:16,284 --> 01:39:19,078 {\an8}What he loves so much about being a grandparent, 2530 01:39:19,162 --> 01:39:21,122 {\an8}which he tells me all the time, is that 2531 01:39:21,205 --> 01:39:23,249 {\an8}your grandchildren love you no matter what. 2532 01:39:23,332 --> 01:39:26,127 They love you unconditionally, which is true, we do. 2533 01:39:26,210 --> 01:39:28,838 What is your dating advice for me, your granddaughter? 2534 01:39:28,921 --> 01:39:31,674 If you got a smart guy with looks, great. 2535 01:39:31,716 --> 01:39:35,887 -But looks second, looks third. -SAMANTHA BROOKS: Yeah. 2536 01:39:35,928 --> 01:39:38,222 Creativity, humor, 2537 01:39:39,515 --> 01:39:42,477 joie de vivre, you know, "love of life," 2538 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,146 that's who you should be attracted to. 2539 01:39:45,938 --> 01:39:49,484 People who could see that in you, 2540 01:39:49,567 --> 01:39:52,445 'cause you got it. You know, they gotta see it in you. 2541 01:39:52,528 --> 01:39:55,239 My grandpa talks about Annie, my grandmother, 2542 01:39:55,323 --> 01:39:58,242 a lot more now than he used to. 2543 01:39:58,326 --> 01:40:00,244 When she passed when I was quite young, 2544 01:40:00,328 --> 01:40:03,164 it just wasn't something anybody really talked about. 2545 01:40:03,247 --> 01:40:05,750 And, recently, 2546 01:40:05,833 --> 01:40:07,335 my grandpa and I 2547 01:40:07,418 --> 01:40:10,588 were just sitting on the couch at his house, and he said, 2548 01:40:10,671 --> 01:40:12,715 "I wanna show you the movie To Be or Not to Be." 2549 01:40:13,716 --> 01:40:15,426 And we watched it together, 2550 01:40:15,468 --> 01:40:16,511 and we got 2551 01:40:16,594 --> 01:40:18,888 to watch her singing and performing, 2552 01:40:18,971 --> 01:40:20,640 and being herself together. 2553 01:40:21,265 --> 01:40:23,017 And that felt like it 2554 01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:25,686 healed something I didn't even know was broken. 2555 01:40:27,021 --> 01:40:28,898 My grandmother's presence in that home 2556 01:40:28,981 --> 01:40:30,024 is such a sacred space. 2557 01:40:30,691 --> 01:40:33,861 And Carl's home was that too. 2558 01:40:33,945 --> 01:40:36,405 And that's the hard part about living that long is 2559 01:40:37,281 --> 01:40:39,867 he's lost so many friends. 2560 01:40:44,163 --> 01:40:45,748 JUDD: Where does your strength come from? 2561 01:40:45,831 --> 01:40:47,583 You've had a lot of loss in your life. 2562 01:40:47,667 --> 01:40:50,711 Where do you go to handle all of that? 2563 01:40:52,338 --> 01:40:53,798 There's no answer to that. 2564 01:40:53,881 --> 01:40:56,133 You just find something in you... 2565 01:40:56,175 --> 01:40:59,387 -JUDD: Yeah. -...that gives you the grit 2566 01:40:59,470 --> 01:41:00,930 and the courage to get through... 2567 01:41:01,013 --> 01:41:02,014 JUDD: Yeah. 2568 01:41:02,098 --> 01:41:03,766 ...the bad times that come 2569 01:41:03,808 --> 01:41:06,435 after somebody you love passes away. 2570 01:41:07,687 --> 01:41:09,438 JUDD: What do you miss most about Anne? 2571 01:41:10,606 --> 01:41:12,984 -Too many things. -JUDD: Yeah, just everything. 2572 01:41:13,025 --> 01:41:15,778 Things that nobody in the world would understand. 2573 01:41:15,861 --> 01:41:17,572 -JUDD: Mm-hmm. -Uh... 2574 01:41:19,031 --> 01:41:21,033 When faced with... 2575 01:41:22,368 --> 01:41:23,953 an unhappy moment 2576 01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:26,497 the look on her face. 2577 01:41:26,539 --> 01:41:28,666 When making up her mind to go somewhere, 2578 01:41:28,749 --> 01:41:31,043 how fast she turned and moved. 2579 01:41:31,127 --> 01:41:32,712 It's hard to explain. I mean, you just-- 2580 01:41:32,795 --> 01:41:33,921 JUDD: Yeah. 2581 01:41:34,005 --> 01:41:36,340 There are some things that stay with you forever, you know. 2582 01:41:37,133 --> 01:41:39,510 You can't indulge yourself in being 2583 01:41:39,594 --> 01:41:42,096 incredibly unhappy and miserable... 2584 01:41:42,179 --> 01:41:43,097 JUDD: Yeah. 2585 01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:45,224 ...'cause it doesn't make the pain 2586 01:41:46,183 --> 01:41:48,436 go away or... or better. 2587 01:41:49,061 --> 01:41:50,313 You don't have to pay... 2588 01:41:52,898 --> 01:41:56,068 God, or the world, or spirits 2589 01:41:57,486 --> 01:42:00,281 -for losing somebody great. -JUDD: Yeah. 2590 01:42:01,073 --> 01:42:02,658 You don't have to pay for it. 2591 01:42:03,743 --> 01:42:06,120 ♪ (ZANY PIANO MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 2592 01:42:08,122 --> 01:42:09,457 Hey, hello. 2593 01:42:13,002 --> 01:42:15,421 MAX: My father is having a wonderful 2594 01:42:15,504 --> 01:42:17,423 fourth or fifth act, 2595 01:42:17,506 --> 01:42:19,133 depending on how you judge it. 2596 01:42:19,216 --> 01:42:21,761 Would any of you like to see Spaceballs 2? 2597 01:42:21,844 --> 01:42:23,429 (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) 2598 01:42:23,512 --> 01:42:26,474 MAX: Because there's now all this interest 2599 01:42:26,557 --> 01:42:28,726 {\an8}in redoing his former projects. 2600 01:42:28,809 --> 01:42:29,935 {\an8}We asked, 2601 01:42:30,019 --> 01:42:32,229 {\an8}"What do the fans want?" 2602 01:42:32,271 --> 01:42:34,857 {\an8}But instead, we're making this movie. 2603 01:42:34,940 --> 01:42:36,442 {\an8}MAX: So, he's having this amazing 2604 01:42:36,525 --> 01:42:37,943 career renaissance. 2605 01:42:38,027 --> 01:42:40,071 It's the most powerful Jewish person 2606 01:42:40,112 --> 01:42:42,740 in the universe, Jesus Christ! 2607 01:42:42,782 --> 01:42:45,368 Well, the second most powerful. 2608 01:42:45,451 --> 01:42:47,244 Also, I brought cream cheese. 2609 01:42:47,328 --> 01:42:49,955 ♪ (MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 2610 01:42:57,213 --> 01:42:59,423 BARACK OBAMA: He was born Melvin Kaminsky, 2611 01:43:00,216 --> 01:43:01,967 or as Mel Brooks explains it, 2612 01:43:02,051 --> 01:43:03,844 "Look at Jewish history. 2613 01:43:03,928 --> 01:43:06,931 Unrelieved lamenting would be intolerable." 2614 01:43:06,972 --> 01:43:08,182 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2615 01:43:08,265 --> 01:43:11,686 "So, every... (CHUCKLES) Every ten Jews, 2616 01:43:11,769 --> 01:43:14,939 God designed one to be crazy and amuse the others." 2617 01:43:14,980 --> 01:43:17,316 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2618 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:20,778 OBAMA: He's described his work as 2619 01:43:20,861 --> 01:43:22,154 "unearthing the truth 2620 01:43:22,238 --> 01:43:24,073 that is all around us." 2621 01:43:24,115 --> 01:43:26,158 And by illuminating uncomfortable truths 2622 01:43:26,242 --> 01:43:28,911 about racism and sexism and antisemitism, 2623 01:43:29,537 --> 01:43:31,372 he's been called our jester, 2624 01:43:31,455 --> 01:43:32,957 asking us to see ourselves 2625 01:43:32,998 --> 01:43:34,083 as we really are, 2626 01:43:34,166 --> 01:43:36,544 determined that we laugh ourselves sane. 2627 01:43:36,627 --> 01:43:37,670 I love it. 2628 01:43:37,753 --> 01:43:40,798 OBAMA: Writer, director, actor, producer, composer. 2629 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,633 Okay, okay. 2630 01:43:42,675 --> 01:43:45,344 OBAMA: For his success and for his psychoanalysis, 2631 01:43:45,428 --> 01:43:47,179 we honor Mel Brooks. 2632 01:43:47,263 --> 01:43:50,307 (APPLAUSE) 2633 01:43:50,349 --> 01:43:53,060 MAX: My dad's story is the story 2634 01:43:53,144 --> 01:43:54,520 of everything America could be. 2635 01:43:55,771 --> 01:43:59,775 You've got this kid from an immigrant tribe 2636 01:43:59,859 --> 01:44:02,820 who lost his father, grew up in poverty, 2637 01:44:02,903 --> 01:44:04,488 fought in a World War, 2638 01:44:04,530 --> 01:44:05,948 came home, 2639 01:44:06,031 --> 01:44:09,160 and built one of the great pillars 2640 01:44:09,201 --> 01:44:10,828 of American culture. 2641 01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:11,954 Comedy. 2642 01:44:12,455 --> 01:44:15,166 (APPLAUSE) 2643 01:44:15,207 --> 01:44:16,584 MAX: And he gets up every day... 2644 01:44:16,667 --> 01:44:19,879 So, this crazy audience has asked you some questions. 2645 01:44:19,962 --> 01:44:21,714 And there's somebody waiting to talk to him 2646 01:44:21,797 --> 01:44:23,758 about being Mel Brooks. 2647 01:44:23,841 --> 01:44:26,135 -Keith wants to know... -Yes. 2648 01:44:26,218 --> 01:44:28,971 ...where did you get your sense of humor? 2649 01:44:31,140 --> 01:44:32,600 From a guy in New Jersey. 2650 01:44:32,683 --> 01:44:35,436 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -I mean, when... 2651 01:44:36,604 --> 01:44:39,023 They're pretty funny guys. 2652 01:44:39,064 --> 01:44:43,194 I've learned that people are dying for communication. 2653 01:44:43,235 --> 01:44:46,906 They're dying for a brush stroke of sweetness in their lives. 2654 01:44:46,989 --> 01:44:49,241 When are you gonna play Max Bialystock for me? 2655 01:44:50,367 --> 01:44:53,662 And when you give it to them, they really respond. 2656 01:44:53,746 --> 01:44:56,290 I mean, the biggest laugh I ever got 2657 01:44:56,373 --> 01:44:57,875 was, I was on stage, 2658 01:44:57,917 --> 01:45:00,044 and I got a question from the audience. 2659 01:45:00,127 --> 01:45:01,879 "What do you wear, boxers or briefs?" 2660 01:45:01,921 --> 01:45:03,589 Boxers or briefs? 2661 01:45:04,131 --> 01:45:05,549 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2662 01:45:05,591 --> 01:45:07,927 The answer, Joanne, is... 2663 01:45:08,761 --> 01:45:09,929 depends. 2664 01:45:10,012 --> 01:45:12,765 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2665 01:45:12,848 --> 01:45:13,891 Gotta be safe. 2666 01:45:13,933 --> 01:45:17,478 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(APPLAUSE) 2667 01:45:17,561 --> 01:45:19,730 That laugh will stay with me forever. 2668 01:45:19,772 --> 01:45:22,233 It was the greatest, biggest laugh I ever got. 2669 01:45:22,316 --> 01:45:24,693 HOST: The one and only, Mel Brooks. 2670 01:45:25,402 --> 01:45:27,071 MEL: So, it's quid pro quo. 2671 01:45:27,154 --> 01:45:28,906 You give them a little sweetness, 2672 01:45:28,948 --> 01:45:30,324 you get it back. 2673 01:45:30,866 --> 01:45:32,117 I wasn't sure 2674 01:45:32,201 --> 01:45:34,203 when they said, "You've won a Peabody Award." 2675 01:45:34,286 --> 01:45:36,580 I said, "Oh, no shit." 2676 01:45:36,664 --> 01:45:41,085 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2677 01:45:41,168 --> 01:45:42,253 MEL: I'd like to say 2678 01:45:42,294 --> 01:45:43,921 I humbly acc-- 2679 01:45:43,963 --> 01:45:45,589 But I'm not humble. 2680 01:45:45,673 --> 01:45:48,259 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2681 01:45:48,300 --> 01:45:49,593 JUDD: You've said to me before, 2682 01:45:49,635 --> 01:45:51,095 like, your main advice is to be kind. 2683 01:45:51,136 --> 01:45:53,138 MEL: Yeah, just be kind. 2684 01:45:53,222 --> 01:45:55,850 That's enough advice for anybody. 2685 01:45:55,933 --> 01:45:58,310 You know, and it's so easy to hurt people. 2686 01:45:58,394 --> 01:46:00,479 Just-- We, you know-- 2687 01:46:01,313 --> 01:46:03,941 Don't, you know? 2688 01:46:04,024 --> 01:46:06,360 But do you ever just, like, look at everything and go, 2689 01:46:06,443 --> 01:46:09,613 "What the hell is going on with all of this?" 2690 01:46:09,697 --> 01:46:11,991 Yeah, "What are we supposed to do here, you know?" 2691 01:46:12,074 --> 01:46:13,075 Well, I found out 2692 01:46:13,117 --> 01:46:14,451 I'm supposed to make people laugh, so... 2693 01:46:14,994 --> 01:46:16,328 I do that, you know? 2694 01:46:17,663 --> 01:46:19,373 No salute to Carl Reiner or his career 2695 01:46:19,456 --> 01:46:20,374 would be complete 2696 01:46:20,457 --> 01:46:22,293 without a few words from his illegitimate son, 2697 01:46:22,334 --> 01:46:23,335 Mel Brooks. 2698 01:46:23,419 --> 01:46:28,632 (APPLAUSE) 2699 01:46:28,716 --> 01:46:31,802 Well, let's tell the truth, huh? 2700 01:46:31,886 --> 01:46:34,680 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2701 01:46:34,763 --> 01:46:38,392 The truth is, ladies and Jews, you know the truth. 2702 01:46:38,475 --> 01:46:39,727 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2703 01:46:39,810 --> 01:46:41,687 The truth is, 2704 01:46:41,770 --> 01:46:43,772 I don't know if he deserves this, do you? 2705 01:46:44,940 --> 01:46:46,817 A lot of people don't agree with this. 2706 01:46:46,859 --> 01:46:48,652 I'd like to cut right now. 2707 01:46:48,694 --> 01:46:49,987 Cut outside 2708 01:46:50,029 --> 01:46:52,865 and see the demonstration against Carl Reiner. 2709 01:46:52,948 --> 01:46:55,826 Go, cut outside now. Let's see the truth. 2710 01:46:55,868 --> 01:46:57,953 Damn it, let's see it. 2711 01:46:57,995 --> 01:47:03,167 {\an8}-(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(CARL LAUGHING LOUDLY) 2712 01:47:03,208 --> 01:47:06,337 That's what's really happening here. This! 2713 01:47:06,420 --> 01:47:08,005 And now, 2714 01:47:08,047 --> 01:47:09,798 while we're telling the truth... 2715 01:47:09,882 --> 01:47:11,592 -(AUDIENCE LAUGHING) -(CARL LAUGHING LOUDLY) 2716 01:47:11,675 --> 01:47:13,010 ...let's tell it all. 2717 01:47:13,093 --> 01:47:14,678 For 25 years, 2718 01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,639 he made me out to be The 2,000-- 2719 01:47:16,722 --> 01:47:19,475 to be this Jewish person. 2720 01:47:19,558 --> 01:47:22,144 And there was money in it, and I went along with it. 2721 01:47:22,227 --> 01:47:23,854 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2722 01:47:23,896 --> 01:47:25,439 Hold it, hold it. 2723 01:47:26,690 --> 01:47:30,319 And now, tonight, here, in this stupid place... 2724 01:47:30,402 --> 01:47:31,362 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 2725 01:47:31,445 --> 01:47:34,281 ...I'm gonna re... I'm gonna reveal. 2726 01:47:34,365 --> 01:47:38,118 I am really a Gentile born in Waco, Texas. 2727 01:47:38,911 --> 01:47:40,329 This is not my nose. 2728 01:47:40,412 --> 01:47:44,041 Look carefully. Watch. Watch me. 2729 01:47:44,124 --> 01:47:48,879 This is not, this is not, this is... 2730 01:47:48,921 --> 01:47:51,882 Twenty-five years, I'm wearing this nose. 2731 01:47:51,924 --> 01:47:53,717 -(APPLAUSE) -(LAUGHING) 2732 01:47:53,801 --> 01:47:55,719 MEL: I've put up with this. 2733 01:47:55,803 --> 01:47:58,722 I love you. I love you. (MUMBLES INDISTINCTLY) 2734 01:47:58,764 --> 01:48:02,559 That's the best I've ever seen, Brooks. 2735 01:48:02,601 --> 01:48:04,937 That's the best I've ever-- It was worth it. 2736 01:48:05,020 --> 01:48:07,231 It was worth it. Oh, God. 2737 01:48:07,314 --> 01:48:12,695 ♪ (JAZZ VERSION OF "SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER" PLAYING) ♪ 2738 01:49:20,179 --> 01:49:22,056 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 195319

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