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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,089 --> 00:00:05,092 [dramatic fanfare] 2 00:00:05,092 --> 00:00:06,528 ♪ 3 00:00:06,528 --> 00:00:07,964 - I'’m Connie Reese. 4 00:00:07,964 --> 00:00:09,922 Coming up next, your candidates for mayor 5 00:00:09,922 --> 00:00:11,533 debate who should lead St. Louis 6 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:13,100 for the next four years. 7 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:15,798 Will the people reelect Mayor Ron Saxby, 8 00:00:15,798 --> 00:00:19,280 or will the honor go to Pastor Boyce Ballentine, 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,890 or will they both fall 10 00:00:20,890 --> 00:00:22,935 to dentist and anti-government activist 11 00:00:22,935 --> 00:00:24,676 Dr. Harry Zagelman? 12 00:00:26,635 --> 00:00:28,028 - Is he allowed to do that? 13 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:29,246 - Stay tuned, St. Louis. 14 00:00:29,246 --> 00:00:30,682 We'’ll see you after the break. 15 00:00:30,682 --> 00:00:33,685 [dramatic fanfare] 16 00:00:33,685 --> 00:00:35,905 - Heh. This is gonna be great. 17 00:00:35,905 --> 00:00:37,689 You know, first, I'’ll outline 18 00:00:37,689 --> 00:00:40,649 my six-point economic plan; then I'’ll hit '’em 19 00:00:40,649 --> 00:00:43,434 with expanding pre-K education. 20 00:00:43,434 --> 00:00:45,088 What--what are you doing? 21 00:00:45,088 --> 00:00:48,135 - I'’m looking for some "give a damn," 22 00:00:48,135 --> 00:00:51,138 because what you'’re saying could not be more boring. 23 00:00:51,138 --> 00:00:53,749 - Saving the soul of the city is boring? 24 00:00:53,749 --> 00:00:57,492 - Yes. We'’ve run out of time for your idealism. 25 00:00:57,492 --> 00:00:59,711 Saxby is crushing us in the polls. 26 00:00:59,711 --> 00:01:02,366 Why won'’t you at least hear the dirt I have on him? 27 00:01:02,366 --> 00:01:04,673 - Because people are angry at those kind of politics. 28 00:01:04,673 --> 00:01:06,327 I want to win with integrity. 29 00:01:06,327 --> 00:01:10,374 - Well, maybe you should run for Soccer Team Snack Mom. 30 00:01:10,374 --> 00:01:13,073 This is the big leagues, and what I have on Saxby 31 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:15,205 isn'’t just dirt; it'’s filth. 32 00:01:15,205 --> 00:01:17,207 It'’s the stuff that gets pumped out of a porta-potty 33 00:01:17,207 --> 00:01:18,469 at a country music festival. 34 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:20,471 - Mm-- yeah, okay. 35 00:01:20,471 --> 00:01:23,387 All right, you know what? Still, it'’s a no. 36 00:01:23,387 --> 00:01:25,607 - All right, I respect that. - [sighs] 37 00:01:25,607 --> 00:01:27,174 - He'’s got this-- - Ah-buh-buh-buh. 38 00:01:27,174 --> 00:01:29,611 Na-na-na-na-ahh! 39 00:01:29,611 --> 00:01:31,134 - Sorry we'’re late. 40 00:01:31,134 --> 00:01:33,093 Someone insisted 41 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:36,922 on getting his picture taken with the KTAZ weatherman. 42 00:01:36,922 --> 00:01:38,228 - Stormy Hernandez? 43 00:01:38,228 --> 00:01:39,969 - Yeah, I couldn'’t find him, 44 00:01:39,969 --> 00:01:43,581 but I did get a few nice shots of his parking space. 45 00:01:43,581 --> 00:01:45,931 - Dad, when did you become so starstruck? 46 00:01:45,931 --> 00:01:48,325 I'’ve taken you backstage millions of times-- 47 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:50,284 Madison Square Garden, the Apollo, the Grammys. 48 00:01:50,284 --> 00:01:53,548 - But this is KTAZ. 49 00:01:53,548 --> 00:01:56,159 I'’ve been watching this station for over 40 years. 50 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:59,945 I feel like a schoolgirl about to meet The Beatles. 51 00:01:59,945 --> 00:02:01,817 - You know, another time you should have felt like 52 00:02:01,817 --> 00:02:03,732 you met The Beatles is when I introduced you 53 00:02:03,732 --> 00:02:05,864 to Paul McCartney. 54 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:08,519 - He was all right. 55 00:02:08,519 --> 00:02:11,392 But Stormy Hernandez... 56 00:02:11,392 --> 00:02:14,830 His van got picked up by a tornado once. 57 00:02:14,830 --> 00:02:17,093 I'’ma go see if I can get his autograph. 58 00:02:17,093 --> 00:02:18,442 - You should do that. 59 00:02:18,442 --> 00:02:20,270 - Uh, Lolli, I thought I asked you 60 00:02:20,270 --> 00:02:22,011 to dress conservative. 61 00:02:22,011 --> 00:02:23,230 - I conserved some. 62 00:02:23,230 --> 00:02:26,276 This ain'’t all of it. 63 00:02:26,276 --> 00:02:28,278 - Well, we'’re about to start, so maybe you could 64 00:02:28,278 --> 00:02:30,324 head over to the friends and family area. 65 00:02:30,324 --> 00:02:33,675 - I don'’t want to watch the debate with Saxby'’s wife. 66 00:02:33,675 --> 00:02:35,590 After all that trash he talked about you, 67 00:02:35,590 --> 00:02:36,765 what am I gonna say to her? 68 00:02:36,765 --> 00:02:38,375 - [sighs] Remember, babe. 69 00:02:38,375 --> 00:02:40,203 We'’re taking the high road here, all right? 70 00:02:40,203 --> 00:02:42,379 If I can do it, so can you. 71 00:02:42,379 --> 00:02:44,381 Just be cordial. 72 00:02:44,381 --> 00:02:47,036 - [impudently]Mm-hmm. 73 00:02:47,036 --> 00:02:48,733 - More cordial than that. 74 00:02:48,733 --> 00:02:50,735 - [cheerfully]Mm-hmm. 75 00:02:50,735 --> 00:02:52,737 - Come on. Show some teeth. 76 00:02:52,737 --> 00:02:55,827 Mm, yeah. There you go, babe. 77 00:02:55,827 --> 00:02:59,222 - I'’ll try. - [laughs] 78 00:02:59,222 --> 00:03:00,571 Isn'’t she great? 79 00:03:00,571 --> 00:03:03,095 - [impudently] Mm-hmm. 80 00:03:03,095 --> 00:03:06,098 [soul music] 81 00:03:06,098 --> 00:03:08,492 ♪ 82 00:03:09,624 --> 00:03:10,625 - Got a second, Ron? 83 00:03:10,625 --> 00:03:13,976 - Please, call me Ron. 84 00:03:13,976 --> 00:03:15,195 - I just did. 85 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:18,067 - Oh, sorry. Force of habit. 86 00:03:18,067 --> 00:03:20,025 Most people refer to me as Mayor. 87 00:03:20,025 --> 00:03:21,592 - Oh. 88 00:03:21,592 --> 00:03:23,768 Well, look. We both know how 89 00:03:23,768 --> 00:03:26,162 these campaigns have a way of turning real ugly. 90 00:03:26,162 --> 00:03:28,556 I mean, you have been running some pretty nasty 91 00:03:28,556 --> 00:03:30,166 campaign ads about me. 92 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:31,646 - Really? Like what? 93 00:03:31,646 --> 00:03:33,038 - Oh, I don'’t know. 94 00:03:33,038 --> 00:03:34,475 Maybe the one suggesting 95 00:03:34,475 --> 00:03:38,435 that I might be a Dominican anchor baby. 96 00:03:38,435 --> 00:03:40,829 - Okay, I did not approve that message. 97 00:03:40,829 --> 00:03:42,439 - Really? - No, sir. 98 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:45,137 - Because at the end of the ad, you specifically say, 99 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:49,141 "I'’m Ron Saxby, and I approve this message." 100 00:03:49,141 --> 00:03:52,580 - That does sound like me. 101 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:54,973 - You know, personally, I think the people deserve 102 00:03:54,973 --> 00:03:58,412 to hear the issues debated in a calm, civilized manner. 103 00:03:58,412 --> 00:04:01,197 This should be a conversation, not a cage match. 104 00:04:01,197 --> 00:04:02,894 - Fair enough, Boyce. I approve. 105 00:04:02,894 --> 00:04:05,114 - All right, good. 106 00:04:05,114 --> 00:04:07,899 Oh, can I get a little bit of that? 107 00:04:07,899 --> 00:04:10,206 - That'’s a little insulting, but okay. 108 00:04:14,732 --> 00:04:16,038 - [coughs, clears throat] 109 00:04:17,953 --> 00:04:19,084 - Bless you. 110 00:04:19,084 --> 00:04:21,173 - Oh, uh, it was a cough. 111 00:04:23,393 --> 00:04:25,047 - Oh. 112 00:04:26,135 --> 00:04:27,876 - But still, thank you. 113 00:04:30,531 --> 00:04:32,054 - You'’re welcome. 114 00:04:33,708 --> 00:04:35,057 - I like your dress. 115 00:04:36,972 --> 00:04:38,495 - Thank you. 116 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:41,846 I like your dress too. 117 00:04:41,846 --> 00:04:44,022 - Oh, come on. Now you'’re just being nice. 118 00:04:44,022 --> 00:04:47,243 My husband'’s campaign manager made me wear this. 119 00:04:47,243 --> 00:04:50,551 - My husband'’s campaign manager told me what to wear too. 120 00:04:50,551 --> 00:04:52,988 - Wow, well, she'’s got fantastic taste. 121 00:04:52,988 --> 00:04:54,903 - No, she has terrible taste. This was all me. 122 00:04:54,903 --> 00:04:56,948 - Oh. 123 00:04:56,948 --> 00:04:59,734 Would you like a glass of wine? 124 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:01,562 - Oh, well-- [chuckles] 125 00:05:01,562 --> 00:05:04,608 Should we be drinking during our husbands'’ debate? 126 00:05:04,608 --> 00:05:06,044 - Oh, what, are you kidding? 127 00:05:06,044 --> 00:05:07,524 It'’s the only way to get through it. 128 00:05:07,524 --> 00:05:09,744 - [laughs, sighs] 129 00:05:09,744 --> 00:05:10,962 Oh, that'’s good. - Ooh, ooh, okay. 130 00:05:10,962 --> 00:05:12,268 - No, good, good. - Ooh, ooh. 131 00:05:12,268 --> 00:05:13,791 - Now it'’s great. [laughter] 132 00:05:13,791 --> 00:05:14,836 - All right. - Ahh. 133 00:05:14,836 --> 00:05:16,838 - Well, uh, it'’s very-- 134 00:05:16,838 --> 00:05:18,318 I don'’t want to mess my hair up. 135 00:05:18,318 --> 00:05:19,536 Let'’s just-- there we go. 136 00:05:21,146 --> 00:05:22,626 - Let'’s start with you, Reverend. 137 00:05:22,626 --> 00:05:24,976 What makes you think you can run the city? 138 00:05:24,976 --> 00:05:26,500 - Connie, I'’m glad you asked. 139 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:28,066 Well, I think that-- 140 00:05:28,066 --> 00:05:29,894 - Actually, Connie, I'’d love to jump in... 141 00:05:29,894 --> 00:05:32,549 if my buddy Boyce doesn'’t mind. 142 00:05:32,549 --> 00:05:35,073 - [mouthing words] - Sure, Ron. Go ahead. 143 00:05:35,073 --> 00:05:37,032 - Great, because I wouldn'’t feel right if I didn'’t 144 00:05:37,032 --> 00:05:39,817 welcome the fine people watching at home. 145 00:05:39,817 --> 00:05:42,429 You watch because you care. 146 00:05:42,429 --> 00:05:45,083 I salute you. 147 00:05:45,083 --> 00:05:46,694 Now, Boyce, you were saying? 148 00:05:46,694 --> 00:05:48,130 - Well, what I was saying is that I-- 149 00:05:48,130 --> 00:05:51,612 - May I respond to what Mayor Saxby just said? 150 00:05:51,612 --> 00:05:53,744 I, too, would like to welcome the fine people 151 00:05:53,744 --> 00:05:57,966 who are watching at home and those at friends'’ homes. 152 00:05:57,966 --> 00:06:00,272 - I-I believe that we are clear that 153 00:06:00,272 --> 00:06:02,884 we welcome everyone watching. 154 00:06:02,884 --> 00:06:04,581 No matter where you'’re watching it, 155 00:06:04,581 --> 00:06:08,716 your friend'’s house, your home, or a gas pump, you know? 156 00:06:10,805 --> 00:06:13,024 I-I think we should get back to the issues. 157 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:16,463 - Agreed. Mayor Saxby, Pastor Ballentine alleges 158 00:06:16,463 --> 00:06:18,726 that the current system of tickets and fines 159 00:06:18,726 --> 00:06:20,902 is a poor tax used to subsidize 160 00:06:20,902 --> 00:06:23,600 luxury condos and pay for a new baseball stadium. 161 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Your response. 162 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,473 - I'’m glad you brought that up, Pat. 163 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:32,435 Let me just say, as an admirer of both Boyce and freedom, 164 00:06:32,435 --> 00:06:34,829 I believe he has every right to despise baseball, 165 00:06:34,829 --> 00:06:37,309 our national pastime. 166 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:40,704 Now, perhaps my friend Boyce prefers soccer. 167 00:06:40,704 --> 00:06:42,532 - All right, Ron. That'’s just not right, now. 168 00:06:42,532 --> 00:06:46,580 - Oh, sorry. Should I say fútbol? 169 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:49,583 - I'’m not Dominican. 170 00:06:49,583 --> 00:06:51,062 - [laughs] Ooh. 171 00:06:51,062 --> 00:06:52,716 Do you think we should, uh, turn that up? 172 00:06:52,716 --> 00:06:54,849 - Nah, no, we might hear them. 173 00:06:54,849 --> 00:06:57,895 - [laughs] You need to quit. 174 00:06:57,895 --> 00:06:59,941 And you need to top me off. 175 00:06:59,941 --> 00:07:01,682 - Oh, all right. [sighs] 176 00:07:01,682 --> 00:07:03,814 Can I confess something? [clears throat] 177 00:07:03,814 --> 00:07:06,208 I have been a huge fan of Boyce and Lolli 178 00:07:06,208 --> 00:07:08,079 for, well, forever. 179 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:10,299 I have got all of Boyce'’s albums. 180 00:07:10,299 --> 00:07:14,390 I, uh--I-I used to pore over your outfits in "Us Weekly." 181 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:16,958 - Okay, now you really need to quit. 182 00:07:16,958 --> 00:07:18,960 - Oh, okay, look, I'’m gonna prove it to you. 183 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,440 All right, uh, true or false: 184 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,485 you and Paula Abdul wore the same 185 00:07:22,485 --> 00:07:25,009 Jimmy Choos to the '’98 Vibe Awards. 186 00:07:25,009 --> 00:07:27,838 - What? Who can remember back then? 187 00:07:27,838 --> 00:07:30,493 "Us Weekly" said I wore it better. 188 00:07:30,493 --> 00:07:31,886 - Because you did. 189 00:07:31,886 --> 00:07:33,583 - [laughs] You know, it'’s a shame 190 00:07:33,583 --> 00:07:35,455 our husbands have to be enemies, 191 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:37,065 because we could be great friends. 192 00:07:37,065 --> 00:07:38,545 - Oh, please. Me? 193 00:07:38,545 --> 00:07:40,634 Friends with the--the glamorous Lolli Ballentine? 194 00:07:40,634 --> 00:07:42,679 - Oh, please, things aren'’t always 195 00:07:42,679 --> 00:07:44,072 what they appear to be in "Us Weekly." 196 00:07:44,072 --> 00:07:45,552 - Mm. 197 00:07:45,552 --> 00:07:46,857 - I mean, it may seem as though 198 00:07:46,857 --> 00:07:48,685 I'’ve always had it tight and together, 199 00:07:48,685 --> 00:07:50,426 but I-I'’m telling you something, Linda, 200 00:07:50,426 --> 00:07:53,211 Boyce and I have had our share of lean times. 201 00:07:53,211 --> 00:07:56,345 I mean, when he first blew up, girl, he went through 202 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:58,390 a major over-spending phase. 203 00:07:58,390 --> 00:08:02,220 Buying every damn thing-- cars, boats, watches. 204 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:03,787 - Really? - Yeah. 205 00:08:03,787 --> 00:08:05,702 There were times we couldn'’t leave our castle 206 00:08:05,702 --> 00:08:07,182 without being harassed by creditors. 207 00:08:07,182 --> 00:08:08,749 - Oh. 208 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:10,359 - Did I mention the man leased a castle? 209 00:08:10,359 --> 00:08:12,143 - Really? Like, in Europe? 210 00:08:12,143 --> 00:08:14,929 - Girl, no. Vegas. - Oh. 211 00:08:14,929 --> 00:08:16,583 - It had 19 bedrooms,though. 212 00:08:16,583 --> 00:08:19,977 Whoo, lost my mama in there twice. 213 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:21,892 Aah! [laughter] 214 00:08:23,938 --> 00:08:26,984 - That'’s why I would close the libraries, the parks, 215 00:08:26,984 --> 00:08:29,030 the fire department, school boards-- 216 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:30,771 - I-I'’m sorry, did you say you would 217 00:08:30,771 --> 00:08:32,947 shut down the fire department? 218 00:08:32,947 --> 00:08:36,385 - Yes. Let the free market do the work. 219 00:08:36,385 --> 00:08:39,867 Stop sucking off the city'’s teat. 220 00:08:39,867 --> 00:08:41,477 - So if it were up to you, we would have 221 00:08:41,477 --> 00:08:43,523 a city full of dumb kids with nowhere to play 222 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:46,874 but burned-down houses. 223 00:08:46,874 --> 00:08:48,528 - I'’m sorry, Connie, but as I sit here 224 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:50,355 and I watch Pastor Ballentine attack the good doctor 225 00:08:50,355 --> 00:08:52,009 like this, I can'’t help but think 226 00:08:52,009 --> 00:08:54,403 how these campaigns have a way of turning ugly. 227 00:08:54,403 --> 00:08:56,623 I mean, don'’t the people deserve to hear 228 00:08:56,623 --> 00:09:00,452 these issues debated in a calm and civilized manner? 229 00:09:00,452 --> 00:09:02,977 I mean, this--this should be a--a conversation, 230 00:09:02,977 --> 00:09:04,587 not a cage match. 231 00:09:04,587 --> 00:09:06,067 - Hold--hold on, Ron. 232 00:09:06,067 --> 00:09:08,504 I said those exact words to you earlier. 233 00:09:08,504 --> 00:09:10,506 - Now, if Boyce is referring to approaching me 234 00:09:10,506 --> 00:09:12,334 before the debate, it'’s true; he did. 235 00:09:12,334 --> 00:09:14,031 - Thank you, Ron. 236 00:09:14,031 --> 00:09:16,164 - And I firmly told him that Ron Saxby 237 00:09:16,164 --> 00:09:20,037 does not engage in those shady backroom dealings. 238 00:09:20,037 --> 00:09:21,299 - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 239 00:09:21,299 --> 00:09:22,823 That'’s not what happened. 240 00:09:22,823 --> 00:09:25,216 - So you didn'’t approach him backstage? 241 00:09:25,216 --> 00:09:27,001 - No, no, I approached him, you know? 242 00:09:27,001 --> 00:09:29,656 But what I was--what I had-- I had started to, uh-- 243 00:09:29,656 --> 00:09:32,397 - A lot of hedging for a man of the cloth. 244 00:09:32,397 --> 00:09:35,139 - Shame, shame, shame. 245 00:09:35,139 --> 00:09:37,185 - You know, you and this crazy dentist 246 00:09:37,185 --> 00:09:38,926 are twisting my words, man. 247 00:09:38,926 --> 00:09:40,492 - I was hoping we could keep this friendly. 248 00:09:40,492 --> 00:09:42,059 - No, no, no, I'’m the one who wanted 249 00:09:42,059 --> 00:09:44,366 to keep it friendly; I'’m the nice one. 250 00:09:44,366 --> 00:09:45,846 - We'’ll be back after a short break. 251 00:09:45,846 --> 00:09:46,847 - I mean, come on. 252 00:09:46,847 --> 00:09:47,935 [dramatic fanfare] 253 00:09:47,935 --> 00:09:49,589 [inaudible] 254 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:51,721 It'’s some bull[bleep], is what it is. 255 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:54,202 - We are still on the air. - Oh. 256 00:10:01,165 --> 00:10:02,819 - Okay, guys. We'’re back on in two minutes. 257 00:10:02,819 --> 00:10:04,734 - Keesha, I need powder. I'’m feeling shiny. 258 00:10:06,562 --> 00:10:08,042 - [groans] 259 00:10:08,042 --> 00:10:10,348 - Boyce, can I ask you something? 260 00:10:10,348 --> 00:10:12,742 Is this a setup? - What? 261 00:10:12,742 --> 00:10:16,050 - Is your whole campaign a long con to ruin my career? 262 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:20,184 Because I'’ve never seen anybody debate like that on purpose. 263 00:10:20,184 --> 00:10:22,534 - Why couldn'’t you just say, "Chin up! Attaboy! 264 00:10:22,534 --> 00:10:24,319 Go get '’em, tiger!" 265 00:10:24,319 --> 00:10:28,018 - Whoo-hoo-hoo! Baby, you are killin'’ it! 266 00:10:29,585 --> 00:10:33,937 - Were you even watching? - Mm-hmm. 267 00:10:33,937 --> 00:10:36,679 - Lolli, will you please talk some sense into your husband? 268 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,856 I'’ve got some grade-A dirt on Saxby, but he won'’t use it. 269 00:10:39,856 --> 00:10:42,859 - I agree with Boyce. You can'’t do that to the Saxbys. 270 00:10:42,859 --> 00:10:44,513 Linda'’s my friend. 271 00:10:44,513 --> 00:10:46,471 - You'’ve known that woman for 20 minutes. 272 00:10:46,471 --> 00:10:48,735 - And some people you like instantly. 273 00:10:48,735 --> 00:10:52,260 Others, you know for months-- and nothing. 274 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:54,349 - Okay. 275 00:10:54,349 --> 00:10:56,830 - Boyce, I respect your integrity, 276 00:10:56,830 --> 00:10:58,832 as irritating as it is, 277 00:10:58,832 --> 00:11:00,703 but you are getting creamed out there. 278 00:11:00,703 --> 00:11:03,358 Why won'’t you at least listen to what I'’ve got? 279 00:11:03,358 --> 00:11:06,796 - Fine. What is it? Come on. 280 00:11:10,495 --> 00:11:13,194 - All right. I know for a fact 281 00:11:13,194 --> 00:11:14,412 that the mayor of St. Louis 282 00:11:14,412 --> 00:11:15,544 is into something 283 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:19,069 called "pony play." 284 00:11:19,069 --> 00:11:21,550 - What? He--he plays with ponies? What-- 285 00:11:21,550 --> 00:11:25,554 - No, no, no. He isthe pony. 286 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:29,036 And he likes to have women ride him around. 287 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:31,081 Naked. - Oh. 288 00:11:31,081 --> 00:11:33,954 Come on, that sounds like one of those crazy rumors. 289 00:11:33,954 --> 00:11:35,651 I don'’t-- - Oh, really? 290 00:11:35,651 --> 00:11:39,046 Is this a rumor? - Oh. Oh, wow. 291 00:11:39,046 --> 00:11:43,615 Whoa, he--I mean, he got the hooves on and everything. 292 00:11:43,615 --> 00:11:46,618 So how does he keep the tail on? 293 00:11:46,618 --> 00:11:49,839 Oh! Oh, oh! No, no, no, no. 294 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:51,841 You know what? 295 00:11:51,841 --> 00:11:53,582 That'’s the freakiest thing I'’ve ever seen, 296 00:11:53,582 --> 00:11:57,107 and I shared a tour bus with R. Kelly, so... 297 00:11:57,107 --> 00:11:58,935 - Back on the air in one, my friends. 298 00:11:58,935 --> 00:12:00,937 - Okay. - So you'’re gonna use it, right? 299 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:03,331 - No, it--it'’s just too vicious right there. 300 00:12:03,331 --> 00:12:05,768 If I use that against Saxby, then I'’m no better 301 00:12:05,768 --> 00:12:07,509 than the politicians I hate, so... 302 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:09,511 - You'’re just gonna go out there and roll over. 303 00:12:09,511 --> 00:12:11,556 - No, I can win this thing, still, 304 00:12:11,556 --> 00:12:13,080 on my own terms. 305 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,342 I'’m just gonna go out there and fight. 306 00:12:14,342 --> 00:12:16,083 You got to remember, I come from the streets. 307 00:12:16,083 --> 00:12:17,475 - You come from Frontenac. 308 00:12:17,475 --> 00:12:18,781 That'’s a very nice neighborhood. 309 00:12:18,781 --> 00:12:21,349 - Well, they got streets. 310 00:12:21,349 --> 00:12:23,046 You know, stuff went down out there. 311 00:12:23,046 --> 00:12:25,179 I mean, people'’s bikes got stolen, you know? 312 00:12:25,179 --> 00:12:29,661 Sometimes kids couldn'’t find their book bags. 313 00:12:29,661 --> 00:12:31,881 I admit, Saxby caught me off guard in round one, 314 00:12:31,881 --> 00:12:34,188 but in round two, I'’m coming out swinging. 315 00:12:34,188 --> 00:12:35,276 - Hey, Boyce. 316 00:12:35,276 --> 00:12:36,407 Stormy, this is my son Boyce 317 00:12:36,407 --> 00:12:38,366 I was telling you about. 318 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:39,933 He'’s the one that laughed at me 319 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:42,152 for wearing a parka to Summerfest '’98. 320 00:12:42,152 --> 00:12:45,982 - Ah, yes, a late-season cold front came barreling in 321 00:12:45,982 --> 00:12:48,028 from Lake Superior. 322 00:12:48,028 --> 00:12:49,638 - This boy was wearing flip-flops. 323 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:51,771 [laughter] 324 00:12:51,771 --> 00:12:53,860 - You know, it'’s great to go down memory lane, guys, 325 00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:55,470 but, Dad, I got to get back to the debate. 326 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:56,601 - You'’re doing great out there, son. 327 00:12:56,601 --> 00:12:58,865 You'’re crushing Saxby. 328 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:02,564 - Is nobody in my family watching this thing? 329 00:13:02,564 --> 00:13:04,609 [dramatic fanfare] 330 00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:07,003 - Welcome back to KTAZ'’s Mayoral Debate. 331 00:13:07,003 --> 00:13:08,700 Mayor Saxby, moving on 332 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:10,920 to the topic of pension reform, how would you-- 333 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,270 - Sorry to interrupt you, Connie, but I'’d like to clarify 334 00:13:13,270 --> 00:13:15,533 a few things from last round, 335 00:13:15,533 --> 00:13:18,319 as long as my good friend Ron here doesn'’t mind. 336 00:13:18,319 --> 00:13:19,668 - Well, actually, Boyce, I don'’t think it'’s-- 337 00:13:19,668 --> 00:13:21,931 - Good. 338 00:13:21,931 --> 00:13:25,543 Now, you all saw me lose my temper, and you know what? 339 00:13:25,543 --> 00:13:28,851 I'’m glad you did, because if I have to get mad 340 00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:31,245 to let the people of St. Louis know that Saxby 341 00:13:31,245 --> 00:13:34,422 is ripping them off, that he is balancing his budget 342 00:13:34,422 --> 00:13:37,207 on their backs, then damn right I'’ll get mad, 343 00:13:37,207 --> 00:13:40,210 and I'’ll make mad matter. 344 00:13:41,864 --> 00:13:44,519 - Mayor Saxby, care to respond? - Yes, I would. 345 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:47,391 I find it interesting that Pastor Ballentine brings up 346 00:13:47,391 --> 00:13:49,350 the city'’s budget, when there were years 347 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:51,091 the man couldn'’t even balance his own. 348 00:13:51,091 --> 00:13:53,223 - Uh, say what, now? 349 00:13:53,223 --> 00:13:55,356 - The truth is, even as Boyce Ballentine 350 00:13:55,356 --> 00:13:57,140 raked it in as a show business celebrity, 351 00:13:57,140 --> 00:13:59,839 his extravagant and irresponsible lifestyle 352 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:03,799 kept him from paying the rent on his castle. 353 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,455 - You told him? I-I thought we were friends. 354 00:14:07,455 --> 00:14:08,456 - Well, of course we'’re friends. 355 00:14:08,456 --> 00:14:10,023 This stuff'’s just politics. 356 00:14:10,023 --> 00:14:12,242 Come on, Lolli. Don'’t be mad. 357 00:14:12,242 --> 00:14:14,157 - How can I not be mad, Linda? 358 00:14:14,157 --> 00:14:15,724 You stabbed me in the back. 359 00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:17,291 - No, no, no, no, no, my husband 360 00:14:17,291 --> 00:14:19,728 stabbed your husband in the back. 361 00:14:19,728 --> 00:14:21,991 - '’Cause you gave him the knife! 362 00:14:21,991 --> 00:14:24,820 - I'’m sorry. I forgot you'’re new at this. 363 00:14:24,820 --> 00:14:27,170 I hope we'’re still on for "Scandal" Thursday. 364 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:28,780 - Don'’t make me take off my earrings. 365 00:14:28,780 --> 00:14:30,130 - Okay. Oh. 366 00:14:30,130 --> 00:14:31,479 - So I ask you, 367 00:14:31,479 --> 00:14:33,089 can we afford to have this man 368 00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:35,483 in charge of our city'’s checkbook? 369 00:14:35,483 --> 00:14:37,485 - Pastor, is all this true? 370 00:14:37,485 --> 00:14:41,663 - We'’ll be right back. Right, Connie? 371 00:14:41,663 --> 00:14:43,273 We'’ll be right back. 372 00:14:43,273 --> 00:14:44,535 Please say it. 373 00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:49,714 - Where the hell did Saxby get that info? 374 00:14:49,714 --> 00:14:51,499 The only people that knew about that time in my life 375 00:14:51,499 --> 00:14:53,501 were me, Lolli, and my old accountant, 376 00:14:53,501 --> 00:14:55,633 Dennis Chen. - Do you trust him? 377 00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:59,246 - No, he'’s the one who told us we could afford the castle. 378 00:14:59,246 --> 00:15:01,248 - Baby, we need to talk. - Look, babe, can it wait? 379 00:15:01,248 --> 00:15:03,119 I mean, we'’re in crisis mode right now. 380 00:15:03,119 --> 00:15:05,339 I believe Saxby has an inside man. 381 00:15:05,339 --> 00:15:07,732 - Or woman. - Okay, sure, it'’s 2016. 382 00:15:07,732 --> 00:15:09,691 Yes, I get it. 383 00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:11,911 The point is, it'’s like he has a spy, you know-- 384 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:15,088 - A spy who loves you very much 385 00:15:15,088 --> 00:15:18,221 and thought she was friends with that snitch Linda. 386 00:15:18,221 --> 00:15:21,355 - You mean your bestie Linda? 387 00:15:21,355 --> 00:15:23,270 - So you told her? Why? 388 00:15:23,270 --> 00:15:25,446 - Babe, we were chatting. 389 00:15:25,446 --> 00:15:29,102 I mean, that'’s what ladies do when you'’re locked in a room 390 00:15:29,102 --> 00:15:33,628 with sushi, wine, and nothing on TV. 391 00:15:33,628 --> 00:15:36,196 - I'’m debating on TV. 392 00:15:36,196 --> 00:15:38,111 - Boyce, I hope this opens your eyes 393 00:15:38,111 --> 00:15:40,287 to the type of people we'’re up against. 394 00:15:40,287 --> 00:15:42,506 - You know what? The man tells lies about me. 395 00:15:42,506 --> 00:15:45,031 He steals my ideas. He manipulates my wife. 396 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:46,336 It'’s going down. 397 00:15:46,336 --> 00:15:48,164 - Yes. Baby, whatever dirt 398 00:15:48,164 --> 00:15:50,645 you have on Saxby, you use it. 399 00:15:50,645 --> 00:15:51,820 - What are you talking about? 400 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:53,953 - I finally woke up, Dad. 401 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,998 Everything that I want to accomplish 402 00:15:55,998 --> 00:15:58,392 means nothing if I don'’t win this election. 403 00:15:58,392 --> 00:16:01,569 So I'’m about to go in there and take that man down 404 00:16:01,569 --> 00:16:03,179 in his own filth. 405 00:16:03,179 --> 00:16:06,443 - I am so proud of you right now. 406 00:16:06,443 --> 00:16:09,272 This is what it must feel like to be a mother. 407 00:16:09,272 --> 00:16:10,665 - I sure hope you know what you'’re doing, 408 00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:12,406 going out there, slinging mud. 409 00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:17,367 - Mud kills more people every year than hurricanes. 410 00:16:17,367 --> 00:16:19,152 - And he would know. 411 00:16:19,152 --> 00:16:21,850 - Dad, I can'’t let Saxby just walk all over me. 412 00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:26,898 - Boyce, you'’ve got to think about your reputation. 413 00:16:26,898 --> 00:16:28,857 - Why am I getting political advice 414 00:16:28,857 --> 00:16:30,859 from Stormy Hernandez? 415 00:16:30,859 --> 00:16:33,601 - Son, go ahead and do what you got to do. 416 00:16:33,601 --> 00:16:35,777 All I'’m saying is, anytime you sling mud, 417 00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:38,301 you end up getting some on yourself. 418 00:16:38,301 --> 00:16:39,911 - But what choice do I have? 419 00:16:39,911 --> 00:16:41,217 - All right, friends, places. 420 00:16:41,217 --> 00:16:42,479 We'’re back live in one minute. 421 00:16:47,354 --> 00:16:49,051 - You ready for another round, Pastor? 422 00:16:49,051 --> 00:16:51,314 - [sighs] - That Saxby plays dirty, huh? 423 00:16:51,314 --> 00:16:53,447 - Believe me, you don'’t know the half of it. 424 00:16:53,447 --> 00:16:54,622 - What are you talking about? 425 00:16:54,622 --> 00:16:56,145 - [sighs] 426 00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:00,976 - I'’d like to focus this round 427 00:17:00,976 --> 00:17:02,717 on the city'’s budget shortfall. 428 00:17:02,717 --> 00:17:06,329 Dr. Zagelman, you fancy yourself a fiscal wonk. 429 00:17:06,329 --> 00:17:08,723 - Correct, and after studying the great monetary theorists, 430 00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:10,072 I have to conclude... 431 00:17:10,072 --> 00:17:12,248 Mayor Saxby is a freaking sex pervert! 432 00:17:12,248 --> 00:17:13,510 - Whoa! - What? 433 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:14,816 - Please. - I know for a fact 434 00:17:14,816 --> 00:17:16,078 that he dresses up like a pony 435 00:17:16,078 --> 00:17:18,037 and has women ride him around. 436 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:20,952 - That is an outrageous accusation. 437 00:17:20,952 --> 00:17:22,998 - So you deny it? 438 00:17:22,998 --> 00:17:24,956 - I'’m not even gonna dignify it with a response. 439 00:17:24,956 --> 00:17:26,480 - That'’s not a denial. 440 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,308 - Okay, now, now, now. Look, guys. 441 00:17:28,308 --> 00:17:30,266 Things are getting pretty unseemly. 442 00:17:30,266 --> 00:17:32,616 I think the voters would like us to get back to the issues. 443 00:17:32,616 --> 00:17:34,053 - Yes. - They'’re not interested 444 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:36,968 in whether or not a man likes to saddle up 445 00:17:36,968 --> 00:17:40,798 and have a lady trot him around the yard. 446 00:17:40,798 --> 00:17:43,149 - Which I never admitted to. 447 00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:44,759 - Or denied. 448 00:17:44,759 --> 00:17:46,456 - There'’s no reason for me to deny something 449 00:17:46,456 --> 00:17:47,718 so patently ridiculous. 450 00:17:47,718 --> 00:17:50,156 - Still not a denial. 451 00:17:50,156 --> 00:17:53,333 - This is way better than "Scandal." 452 00:17:53,333 --> 00:17:54,725 - Okay, gentlemen. 453 00:17:54,725 --> 00:17:55,987 Let'’s get back on track here. 454 00:17:55,987 --> 00:17:57,815 - Please. - Yes, you know what? 455 00:17:57,815 --> 00:17:59,948 The candidates'’ personal lives should be off-limits. 456 00:17:59,948 --> 00:18:02,037 And even if these sordid allegations 457 00:18:02,037 --> 00:18:04,648 were true, my reaction as a pastor 458 00:18:04,648 --> 00:18:06,476 would be to offer him counseling 459 00:18:06,476 --> 00:18:08,478 or perhaps a sugar cube. 460 00:18:08,478 --> 00:18:10,089 [laughs] 461 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:11,394 - The real question is, 462 00:18:11,394 --> 00:18:13,483 do we want this man to represent our city? 463 00:18:13,483 --> 00:18:15,616 And I say, "Neigh!" 464 00:18:15,616 --> 00:18:17,096 - You son of a bitch! - Oh, yeah! 465 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:18,619 - Hey, okay, gentlemen. - You have no right-- 466 00:18:18,619 --> 00:18:20,011 - Come on, boy-- - Gentlemen! 467 00:18:20,011 --> 00:18:21,317 [all shouting] 468 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:24,407 - Well played, Ballentine. 469 00:18:24,407 --> 00:18:25,930 - Excuse me? - I know it was you. 470 00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:27,758 - I don'’t know what you'’re talking about. 471 00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:29,804 - Please, Zagelman'’s not capable of this. 472 00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:32,328 Look at him. He'’s unhinged. 473 00:18:32,328 --> 00:18:34,287 - I, uh, like my government small, 474 00:18:34,287 --> 00:18:36,680 like my women. 475 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,682 - The Twittersphere is going crazy. 476 00:18:38,682 --> 00:18:41,120 Our "Boyce the Choice" hashtag is trending. 477 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:45,602 - I don'’t understand a single word you just said. 478 00:18:45,602 --> 00:18:48,866 - Boyce did good. - Say that next time. 479 00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:50,781 - Okay, look, we both got our licks in, 480 00:18:50,781 --> 00:18:53,610 so let'’s agree to keep it above the belt from here on out. 481 00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:55,090 - No, no, that'’s not the way it works. 482 00:18:55,090 --> 00:18:56,700 You'’re one of us now, Pastor, okay? 483 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,398 The difference is, I'’ve been here before. 484 00:18:58,398 --> 00:18:59,790 - Yeah, I know. 485 00:18:59,790 --> 00:19:01,879 It'’s not your first rodeo. - Oh! 486 00:19:01,879 --> 00:19:03,881 - Okay, okay, that'’s funny. I'’m gonna destroy you. 487 00:19:03,881 --> 00:19:05,231 - Yeah, well, bring it, man-- 488 00:19:05,231 --> 00:19:06,536 - Yeah, you know, why don'’t you 489 00:19:06,536 --> 00:19:07,842 stay out of my husband'’s face? 490 00:19:07,842 --> 00:19:09,670 - Why don'’t you rein your husband in? 491 00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:11,019 - Oh, that'’s a good one. - Oh! 492 00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:12,194 - Shut up, you quack. 493 00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:13,804 - Quack? Who you calling quack? Me? 494 00:19:13,804 --> 00:19:16,198 - Don'’t point your finger at my husband'’s face. 495 00:19:16,198 --> 00:19:21,029 [all shouting at once] 496 00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:23,640 - And we'’re back live in five... 497 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,641 [dramatic fanfare] 498 00:19:24,641 --> 00:19:26,252 Four, three, 499 00:19:26,252 --> 00:19:27,296 two, 500 00:19:27,296 --> 00:19:28,210 one. 501 00:19:32,301 --> 00:19:34,173 - I'’d like to thank all of the candidates 502 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:36,131 for being here tonight for what turned out to be 503 00:19:36,131 --> 00:19:37,959 a very spirited debate. 504 00:19:37,959 --> 00:19:40,135 From all of us at KTAZ, good night, 505 00:19:40,135 --> 00:19:42,050 and I'’m sorry. 506 00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:43,704 [dramatic fanfare] 507 00:19:43,704 --> 00:19:45,358 - You [bleep]! - Yeah-- 508 00:19:45,358 --> 00:19:47,055 - We are still on. 509 00:19:47,055 --> 00:19:48,883 - Hey, somebody'’s got my wallet. 510 00:19:57,065 --> 00:20:00,068 [soul music] 511 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:07,989 ♪ 512 00:20:18,913 --> 00:20:20,001 - ♪ The soul man 513 00:20:20,001 --> 00:20:24,001 - ♪ Hey 38306

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