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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,036 --> 00:00:03,419 (gentle music) (fire sizzling) 2 00:00:03,419 --> 00:00:05,851 (car siren) 3 00:00:07,292 --> 00:00:09,985 - At 18, I was charged with murder, 4 00:00:11,202 --> 00:00:15,611 notorious, the teenage dominatrix. 5 00:00:15,611 --> 00:00:19,802 I was accused of killing a respected English cricket umpire 6 00:00:19,802 --> 00:00:23,556 by throwing him bound hand and foot into a raging river. 7 00:00:23,556 --> 00:00:27,434 I was very naive, very young, very stupid. 8 00:00:27,434 --> 00:00:30,687 - It was just an incredibly sad 9 00:00:30,687 --> 00:00:35,740 sad story of a girl who got involved with the wrong people. 10 00:00:38,738 --> 00:00:39,606 - [Renee] I was charged 11 00:00:39,606 --> 00:00:41,699 with my then boyfriend, Neville Walker. 12 00:00:43,331 --> 00:00:44,200 (whip cracking) (victim growls) 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,795 The shocking secrets of bondage and discipline were exposed 14 00:00:47,795 --> 00:00:50,828 for the first time in three sensational trials 15 00:00:50,828 --> 00:00:52,642 that crept a whole nation. 16 00:00:52,642 --> 00:00:55,989 - She looked for all the world like a demure debutante. 17 00:00:55,989 --> 00:00:58,991 She did not look like a murderer 18 00:00:58,991 --> 00:01:01,056 or a dominatrix for that matter. 19 00:01:01,056 --> 00:01:03,686 - I was there so I know what happened. 20 00:01:05,403 --> 00:01:07,814 My clients knew me as Mistress Dominique. 21 00:01:09,094 --> 00:01:10,937 This is my story. 22 00:01:10,937 --> 00:01:14,064 (suspenseful music) 23 00:01:19,137 --> 00:01:21,570 (car siren) 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,072 (footsteps thunking) 25 00:01:31,072 --> 00:01:33,426 (upbeat music) 26 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:35,897 - Police have launched a massive murder inquiry 27 00:01:35,897 --> 00:01:38,274 after a man's naked body was discovered 28 00:01:38,274 --> 00:01:41,402 bound hand and foot in the Waikato River. 29 00:01:41,402 --> 00:01:42,684 They're now seeking public help 30 00:01:42,684 --> 00:01:45,561 to identify the victim whose body was spotted in the river, 31 00:01:45,561 --> 00:01:47,250 near the Huka Falls. 32 00:01:47,250 --> 00:01:50,222 - Police began an intensive search of the roadside, 33 00:01:50,222 --> 00:01:53,724 where Peter Walker's driver's license has been found. 34 00:01:53,724 --> 00:01:56,633 Behind the scenes, they were continuing investigations 35 00:01:56,633 --> 00:01:59,417 into a secret side of his personal life, 36 00:01:59,417 --> 00:02:01,826 looking for clues to his murder. 37 00:02:01,826 --> 00:02:04,606 (Police knocks) 38 00:02:11,886 --> 00:02:13,741 (engine revving) 39 00:02:13,741 --> 00:02:14,610 - It's cop. 40 00:02:14,610 --> 00:02:15,478 - Shut up. 41 00:02:16,384 --> 00:02:17,904 Leave. - Hey, it's cool. 42 00:02:17,904 --> 00:02:19,340 They got nothing on us. 43 00:02:19,340 --> 00:02:20,263 - Oh, they must have all they want. 44 00:02:20,263 --> 00:02:22,498 (Police continues knocking the door) 45 00:02:22,498 --> 00:02:26,380 - Just do like I said, get the door. 46 00:02:27,596 --> 00:02:31,381 - I was told not to say that we had seen him, 47 00:02:31,381 --> 00:02:36,594 which was very silly on my behalf not to step out over that 48 00:02:38,074 --> 00:02:42,327 threshold and not have Neville behind the doors saying, 49 00:02:42,327 --> 00:02:43,582 no, he hadn't seen him. 50 00:02:51,649 --> 00:02:53,587 I remember talking to the policeman afterwards. 51 00:02:53,587 --> 00:02:55,870 He more or less said he could read my face. 52 00:02:55,870 --> 00:02:58,779 You know that, I was saying no, 53 00:02:58,779 --> 00:03:02,723 but saying yes at the same time, if that makes sense. 54 00:03:04,582 --> 00:03:06,566 (door bangs) 55 00:03:06,566 --> 00:03:10,041 I think I tried to explain to Neville they will come back. 56 00:03:10,976 --> 00:03:14,065 I don't know if Neville wanted to go 57 00:03:14,065 --> 00:03:18,639 or if he wanted to just try and take off, 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,529 but I wasn't going to go anywhere. 59 00:03:22,529 --> 00:03:23,397 - Be, huh? 60 00:03:23,397 --> 00:03:25,989 - Ah, yeah, just okay. 61 00:03:25,989 --> 00:03:29,401 It was a very odd time to be going through. 62 00:03:30,368 --> 00:03:32,056 I didn't know what to do. 63 00:03:32,056 --> 00:03:34,749 - Good afternoon. Sorry to bother you. 64 00:03:35,653 --> 00:03:38,875 I'm Detective Payne. This is Detective Sergeant Mitchell. 65 00:03:38,875 --> 00:03:41,873 We're here in connection with the Plumley-Walker homicide. 66 00:03:41,873 --> 00:03:44,271 - We already told you, we don't know anything, 67 00:03:45,217 --> 00:03:46,600 - [Police] Renee. 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,009 - We don't, I've never ever met him. 69 00:03:49,009 --> 00:03:50,085 (Police chuckles) 70 00:03:50,085 --> 00:03:53,262 - The thing is, still a few questions need answering 71 00:03:53,262 --> 00:03:55,889 before we can eliminate you from our inquiries. 72 00:03:55,889 --> 00:03:58,078 - Well, I just hope this will clear them up then. 73 00:03:58,078 --> 00:04:00,229 So you aren't coming back here all the time. 74 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:03,239 - Whole thing will be a lot easier. 75 00:04:03,239 --> 00:04:04,855 We just go down to the station. 76 00:04:10,307 --> 00:04:11,175 - Sure. 77 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:15,800 (footsteps thunking) 78 00:04:17,452 --> 00:04:19,158 - I don't wanna sound selfish 79 00:04:19,158 --> 00:04:23,724 because it's such a tragic thing that happened 80 00:04:23,724 --> 00:04:28,231 for Mr. Walker to pass away, 81 00:04:30,386 --> 00:04:34,014 but I also knew that I was going 82 00:04:34,014 --> 00:04:35,706 to be getting away from Neville. 83 00:04:39,707 --> 00:04:42,226 (door bangs) 84 00:04:43,866 --> 00:04:45,743 - So, what's your occupation, Renee? 85 00:04:47,244 --> 00:04:48,436 - I'm a dominatrix. 86 00:04:49,871 --> 00:04:52,874 I run a bondage and discipline service from my home. 87 00:04:52,874 --> 00:04:55,845 - Alright. Who do you used to work in the parlors? 88 00:04:55,845 --> 00:04:57,148 - A while ago now though. 89 00:04:58,034 --> 00:04:59,546 - That where you got started? 90 00:05:01,101 --> 00:05:02,653 - No. 91 00:05:02,653 --> 00:05:07,865 (upbeat music) (engines revving) 92 00:05:12,378 --> 00:05:14,141 - [Dominique] My teenage years, 93 00:05:14,141 --> 00:05:16,237 I worked in a couple of retail shops 94 00:05:16,237 --> 00:05:19,587 and got a good offer of a job working 95 00:05:19,587 --> 00:05:23,180 in a well-known shoe shop in town. 96 00:05:23,180 --> 00:05:25,109 I thoroughly enjoyed working there. 97 00:05:25,109 --> 00:05:28,403 It was a specialty shoe store. 98 00:05:28,403 --> 00:05:30,718 - You should absolutely have those. 99 00:05:30,718 --> 00:05:33,658 Your legs, they look fabulous. 100 00:05:33,658 --> 00:05:34,526 - Hi Christine. 101 00:05:34,526 --> 00:05:36,410 (lips smacking) 102 00:05:36,410 --> 00:05:37,443 I wish. 103 00:05:37,443 --> 00:05:40,163 - Aw, sweetie, can't afford them? 104 00:05:40,163 --> 00:05:42,634 - I'm always broke. I hate it. 105 00:05:42,634 --> 00:05:44,823 - Money is easy enough to make. 106 00:05:44,823 --> 00:05:47,110 Like everything, it's all about choices. 107 00:05:48,013 --> 00:05:50,891 Now, tell me these come in my size 108 00:05:50,891 --> 00:05:53,612 or I swear I will die. 109 00:05:53,612 --> 00:05:55,457 - We have them up to size 14. 110 00:05:55,457 --> 00:05:57,115 - I love Mr. Campbell. 111 00:05:57,115 --> 00:06:00,117 - Expensive, but 195. 112 00:06:00,117 --> 00:06:01,744 - I'm feeling a bit naughty today. 113 00:06:01,744 --> 00:06:03,745 So bring me the boots as well in leather 114 00:06:03,745 --> 00:06:05,309 and in suede, please. 115 00:06:05,309 --> 00:06:10,376 - Okay. Just what did you mean before? 116 00:06:10,376 --> 00:06:11,630 It's all about choices. 117 00:06:13,253 --> 00:06:16,006 - Money- - [Renee] Yeah. 118 00:06:16,006 --> 00:06:18,813 - Depends what you're willing to do for it. That's all. 119 00:06:19,727 --> 00:06:21,917 - Well, what do you do to afford all this? 120 00:06:22,886 --> 00:06:27,080 - Come on. Seriously? 121 00:06:28,203 --> 00:06:29,611 - What's it like? You know? 122 00:06:32,344 --> 00:06:36,150 - Short hours, easy cash. 123 00:06:37,211 --> 00:06:41,089 Best part, I don't even have to take my shoes off 124 00:06:41,089 --> 00:06:42,715 most of the time. 125 00:06:42,715 --> 00:06:43,657 - Really? 126 00:06:44,905 --> 00:06:46,687 I was on a very minimum wage, 127 00:06:46,687 --> 00:06:48,314 but, you know, I liked my job. 128 00:06:48,314 --> 00:06:50,972 I was happy in my job at that time, 129 00:06:50,972 --> 00:06:52,599 and I think she floored me 130 00:06:52,599 --> 00:06:56,008 with just exactly how much she made. 131 00:06:56,008 --> 00:07:00,574 I think my wage of a month was hers in half a day 132 00:07:00,574 --> 00:07:02,607 or something like that. 133 00:07:02,607 --> 00:07:03,481 And we talked 134 00:07:03,481 --> 00:07:06,454 and I found out a little bit more 135 00:07:06,454 --> 00:07:10,018 what was involved with actually working. 136 00:07:10,018 --> 00:07:12,972 (whimsical music) 137 00:07:14,898 --> 00:07:16,522 - Do you remember me at all? 138 00:07:17,824 --> 00:07:18,692 - No. 139 00:07:18,692 --> 00:07:21,560 - Ah, it's just, I've spent a few years 140 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,968 on the Auckland Vice Squad. 141 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:25,258 I've seen you out. 142 00:07:27,096 --> 00:07:29,606 (upbeat music) 143 00:07:29,606 --> 00:07:32,395 (car siren) 144 00:07:32,395 --> 00:07:33,758 - [Christine] I was lucky enough, again, 145 00:07:33,758 --> 00:07:35,697 the woman who introduced me 146 00:07:35,697 --> 00:07:38,731 to her client to take me step by step 147 00:07:38,731 --> 00:07:43,943 because it had been a very regular client of hers. 148 00:07:44,082 --> 00:07:47,053 - [Client] I might as well learn from the best. 149 00:07:47,053 --> 00:07:50,397 - Went into it, going for an older client 150 00:07:50,397 --> 00:07:52,774 with money, with security. 151 00:07:52,774 --> 00:07:55,995 The money definitely was the lure. You know that. 152 00:07:55,995 --> 00:07:58,605 You can't deny that at all. 153 00:07:58,605 --> 00:08:01,297 (gentle music) 154 00:08:04,252 --> 00:08:08,634 I had been working as a waitress for a Italian restaurant. 155 00:08:09,631 --> 00:08:14,104 My mother always knew my clothes I'd take to work, 156 00:08:14,104 --> 00:08:15,355 you know, it'd be white, top 157 00:08:15,355 --> 00:08:20,046 and black slacks waitressing clothing course. 158 00:08:20,046 --> 00:08:22,767 And she saw me put in there clothing 159 00:08:22,767 --> 00:08:25,207 that was definitely not waitressing clothing. 160 00:08:25,207 --> 00:08:27,240 And my mother was not silly. 161 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,085 She, you know, I was her daughter. 162 00:08:29,085 --> 00:08:31,730 She tuned into me so well. 163 00:08:31,730 --> 00:08:32,850 (engine revving) 164 00:08:32,850 --> 00:08:35,543 (gentle music) 165 00:08:39,576 --> 00:08:40,532 - Hi there. 166 00:08:41,533 --> 00:08:43,566 - You get in this bloody car right now. 167 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,038 You wanna do this on the street instead? 168 00:08:48,038 --> 00:08:49,863 - Okay. Alright. 169 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:52,730 (engine revving) 170 00:08:58,234 --> 00:09:00,482 - What the hell do you think you are doing? 171 00:09:00,482 --> 00:09:01,393 (door bangs) 172 00:09:01,393 --> 00:09:02,269 - Working. 173 00:09:02,269 --> 00:09:05,709 - Selling yourself on the streets? You are 15. 174 00:09:05,709 --> 00:09:07,305 - So? 175 00:09:07,305 --> 00:09:08,618 - You are ruining your life. 176 00:09:08,618 --> 00:09:11,186 You're gonna live to regret this so much. 177 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:15,468 Is it the money because you don't need it. I've got money. 178 00:09:15,468 --> 00:09:17,160 - Not like I'm making. 179 00:09:18,908 --> 00:09:20,722 - What the hell is wrong with you? 180 00:09:20,722 --> 00:09:22,911 This isn't normal. You need your head right, 181 00:09:22,911 --> 00:09:25,413 no, you stay where you are young girl 182 00:09:25,413 --> 00:09:27,950 or I swear I will follow you around all night. 183 00:09:31,187 --> 00:09:33,224 (door bangs) 184 00:09:33,224 --> 00:09:35,953 (engine revs) 185 00:09:35,953 --> 00:09:38,873 - I could also understand it from her point of viewing 186 00:09:38,873 --> 00:09:41,583 that this wasn't right. 187 00:09:41,583 --> 00:09:43,929 This wasn't right. 188 00:09:43,929 --> 00:09:45,545 Being where I was being... 189 00:09:47,713 --> 00:09:49,777 - [Reporter] Auckland's Karangahape Road, 190 00:09:49,777 --> 00:09:52,032 New Zealand's sleaziest sex spot. 191 00:09:53,093 --> 00:09:57,753 - There was some pretty bad things going on in Auckland 192 00:09:57,753 --> 00:09:58,973 at that time. 193 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:01,256 You know, not just with girls who were working, 194 00:10:01,256 --> 00:10:05,071 but there was some people who were spiking drinks 195 00:10:05,071 --> 00:10:09,937 and nightclubs and some bad guys around. 196 00:10:09,937 --> 00:10:13,439 (engine revving) 197 00:10:13,439 --> 00:10:16,653 (footsteps thunking) 198 00:10:19,239 --> 00:10:21,870 - Hi there. You looking for a good time? 199 00:10:22,836 --> 00:10:23,705 - Sure. 200 00:10:27,121 --> 00:10:29,342 - I would always have my friend with me, 201 00:10:29,342 --> 00:10:33,067 if not two friends, a male and a female. 202 00:10:34,596 --> 00:10:36,692 And my friends would follow me down 203 00:10:36,692 --> 00:10:38,881 just to make sure everything was okay. 204 00:10:41,072 --> 00:10:45,110 It didn't seem like there would be any problems 205 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:47,872 until I did actually have a problem. 206 00:10:47,872 --> 00:10:50,739 (engine revving) 207 00:11:04,306 --> 00:11:06,717 I usually use the hotel room, eh, 208 00:11:06,717 --> 00:11:08,385 or there's a spot down the road. 209 00:11:09,719 --> 00:11:12,600 - I like it here, out of the way. 210 00:11:14,285 --> 00:11:19,449 - Yeah. Sir, show me the money, honey. 211 00:11:21,135 --> 00:11:22,177 - I haven't got any. 212 00:11:23,332 --> 00:11:24,450 (Renee chuckles) 213 00:11:24,450 --> 00:11:25,391 - Funny joke. 214 00:11:28,696 --> 00:11:30,271 - Nice. 215 00:11:31,153 --> 00:11:32,363 (fist thumping) 216 00:11:32,363 --> 00:11:35,021 You are not having a fucking cent, hey. 217 00:11:35,021 --> 00:11:37,148 - I've got all your details to redo everything. 218 00:11:37,148 --> 00:11:40,018 My friend took them down before you lost it. 219 00:11:40,018 --> 00:11:41,050 - Fuck, bitch, you gotta pay for this. 220 00:11:45,019 --> 00:11:46,875 (door creaks) 221 00:11:46,875 --> 00:11:49,857 - And I jumped out of his van, landed on my knees 222 00:11:50,924 --> 00:11:53,756 and ran as fast as I could with high heels on. 223 00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:56,761 But he took off and tried to come around. 224 00:11:58,729 --> 00:12:02,951 I ran up the road after the client had gone. 225 00:12:02,951 --> 00:12:06,297 My friends were so upset that what had happened, 226 00:12:06,297 --> 00:12:08,143 what could have happened. 227 00:12:08,143 --> 00:12:11,552 That was terrifying. That was absolutely terrifying. 228 00:12:11,552 --> 00:12:16,462 Just one night, just putting a guard down was not worth it. 229 00:12:16,462 --> 00:12:20,121 So I stopped working on the streets after that. 230 00:12:20,121 --> 00:12:24,535 That really did try me to the core. 231 00:12:26,439 --> 00:12:28,191 - What parlor were you working? 232 00:12:28,191 --> 00:12:29,442 - Emily's. 233 00:12:29,442 --> 00:12:30,937 - Shirley's place. 234 00:12:30,937 --> 00:12:31,805 - Yeah. 235 00:12:33,581 --> 00:12:36,305 - [Friend] So sweety. Gotta make sure you bring... 236 00:12:36,305 --> 00:12:40,263 - [Renee] I believe with these older clients, 237 00:12:40,263 --> 00:12:44,016 they don't want to go through the scenario of going 238 00:12:44,016 --> 00:12:45,893 through different girls. 239 00:12:45,893 --> 00:12:49,254 They want to find like a mistress, someone that is there 240 00:12:49,254 --> 00:12:51,506 for them exclusively. 241 00:12:51,506 --> 00:12:53,117 How are you being? 242 00:12:53,117 --> 00:12:55,609 - Yeah, so sorry but I think I'll be better soon. 243 00:12:55,609 --> 00:12:57,778 - See what we can do. 244 00:12:57,778 --> 00:13:01,218 And I was happy to do that, you know? 245 00:13:01,218 --> 00:13:03,408 So it wasn't all about the sex. 246 00:13:03,408 --> 00:13:06,910 I could have a client that I would be with for the night 247 00:13:06,910 --> 00:13:10,069 and we would do sometimes nothing. 248 00:13:10,069 --> 00:13:13,356 And they were happy. They were very happy to do that. 249 00:13:14,323 --> 00:13:16,199 - So why'd you leave Emily's? 250 00:13:16,199 --> 00:13:17,701 - I didn't really, 251 00:13:17,701 --> 00:13:20,046 they opened the House of Dominance next door. 252 00:13:21,047 --> 00:13:25,614 There was an Australian mistress there, Mistress Terry. 253 00:13:25,614 --> 00:13:28,571 A couple of us got the chance to learn from her. 254 00:13:28,571 --> 00:13:30,816 (footsteps thunking) 255 00:13:30,816 --> 00:13:32,267 (both laughing) 256 00:13:32,267 --> 00:13:35,395 (suspenseful music) 257 00:13:36,779 --> 00:13:37,648 - Follow me. 258 00:13:39,022 --> 00:13:42,236 (footsteps thunking) 259 00:13:50,484 --> 00:13:51,353 - [Observer] Well, aren't you... 260 00:13:51,353 --> 00:13:52,229 - Oh gosh. 261 00:13:52,229 --> 00:13:54,732 - Anything that the mind can imagine really, 262 00:13:54,732 --> 00:13:56,799 when it came to pain and discipline, 263 00:13:57,797 --> 00:14:03,009 humiliation, slave training, maid training. 264 00:14:04,427 --> 00:14:06,398 We were a bit more prudish in those days. 265 00:14:06,398 --> 00:14:09,900 It was unusual and sex was kept in the bedroom. 266 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:12,371 I learned that there were two types of clients. 267 00:14:12,371 --> 00:14:15,468 One was the successful businessmen 268 00:14:15,468 --> 00:14:20,440 who dominated people all day and then after all that wanted 269 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,506 to come in and be dominated himself. 270 00:14:23,506 --> 00:14:28,718 And then there was the cd depressed person who wanted more, 271 00:14:29,073 --> 00:14:31,199 wanted the dog on the chain, 272 00:14:31,199 --> 00:14:33,670 variety and the golden shower. 273 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:34,890 Apparently... 274 00:14:34,890 --> 00:14:37,642 - [Investigator] So you're saying there's no sexual favors 275 00:14:37,642 --> 00:14:38,925 involved at all? 276 00:14:38,925 --> 00:14:39,793 - No. 277 00:14:39,793 --> 00:14:42,681 The service I offer is one of mistress slave, 278 00:14:43,741 --> 00:14:44,836 like in the old days. 279 00:14:46,038 --> 00:14:47,713 I tie them up, humiliate them, 280 00:14:47,713 --> 00:14:50,184 keep them in complete objection. 281 00:14:50,184 --> 00:14:52,251 The only physical thing I let them do is kiss 282 00:14:52,251 --> 00:14:54,065 my leg up to my knee. 283 00:14:56,615 --> 00:15:00,249 (suspenseful music) 284 00:15:00,249 --> 00:15:02,282 - You let Peter Plumley Walker do that. 285 00:15:05,407 --> 00:15:09,419 (footsteps thunking) 286 00:15:09,419 --> 00:15:10,954 - Now, slave. 287 00:15:11,917 --> 00:15:12,846 (footsteps thunking) 288 00:15:12,846 --> 00:15:15,924 (suspenseful music) 289 00:15:15,924 --> 00:15:18,583 - [Renee] I've never seen or met that man. 290 00:15:18,583 --> 00:15:22,057 - The thing is, we know Plumley Walker was in the BnD. 291 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:26,183 We know he visited just about every B&D parlor in Auckland 292 00:15:26,183 --> 00:15:29,936 and about every massage parlor that does B&D. 293 00:15:29,936 --> 00:15:32,501 Yet you say you've never met him. 294 00:15:32,501 --> 00:15:35,907 - I haven't. Not even at the House of Dominance. 295 00:15:37,539 --> 00:15:40,198 - Hey, he was around the B&D scene so long. 296 00:15:43,416 --> 00:15:45,480 That just amazes me. 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,638 - Well, I think I'd remember him. 298 00:15:47,638 --> 00:15:50,297 The mustache is pretty distinctive. 299 00:15:50,297 --> 00:15:53,018 And I was only at the parlor four months. 300 00:15:53,018 --> 00:15:58,230 And like I said, I was just learning. I met Neville by then. 301 00:15:58,324 --> 00:16:03,537 (upbeat music) (engine revving) 302 00:16:08,819 --> 00:16:12,440 A good friend of mine, Amy, was living at this 303 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,065 lovely big old villa. 304 00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:14,934 (door bangs) 305 00:16:14,934 --> 00:16:16,224 - Becky said she met us after work. 306 00:16:16,224 --> 00:16:19,071 - [Renee] And Neville had moved in there. 307 00:16:19,071 --> 00:16:21,177 - Expensive taste, lock it. 308 00:16:21,177 --> 00:16:22,998 - Hey, evening. 309 00:16:22,998 --> 00:16:25,044 - Oh, this is Neville. He needed a place to stay. 310 00:16:25,044 --> 00:16:27,327 So, my friend Renee. 311 00:16:27,327 --> 00:16:28,985 - Hi. 312 00:16:28,985 --> 00:16:32,238 - Hey, I'm second on the right path. 313 00:16:32,238 --> 00:16:33,645 Door's always open for you. 314 00:16:36,366 --> 00:16:38,180 - Cheeky bigger. 315 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:40,745 - I lock my door when he's in the house. 316 00:16:40,745 --> 00:16:42,246 I mean it though. He's always trying it on. 317 00:16:42,246 --> 00:16:44,550 He doesn't take mine for an answer. 318 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:45,473 - He can drain. 319 00:16:45,473 --> 00:16:47,609 (footsteps thunking) 320 00:16:47,609 --> 00:16:50,302 (glass creaks) 321 00:16:51,254 --> 00:16:53,318 - I really didn't take much notice of him 322 00:16:53,318 --> 00:16:54,694 when he first, he moved in there 323 00:16:54,694 --> 00:16:59,045 because Amy and I would be doing our own thing, you know, 324 00:17:00,035 --> 00:17:04,775 and the best way I can sort of explain it is that 325 00:17:07,111 --> 00:17:08,987 he just didn't go away. 326 00:17:08,987 --> 00:17:11,899 He would just keep on coming back and coming back. 327 00:17:13,632 --> 00:17:16,442 I found it very hard to just tell him to bugger off. 328 00:17:16,442 --> 00:17:19,309 (engine revving) 329 00:17:25,771 --> 00:17:26,639 Oh God. 330 00:17:28,941 --> 00:17:32,228 - Hey, where do you think you are going? 331 00:17:33,633 --> 00:17:37,759 - I'm sorry, this is doing. 332 00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:39,137 (Neville laughs) 333 00:17:39,137 --> 00:17:40,006 - Yep. 334 00:17:41,268 --> 00:17:42,919 - I don't remember. 335 00:17:44,121 --> 00:17:47,988 - While I do, every move you made. 336 00:17:48,955 --> 00:17:51,735 (lips smacking) 337 00:17:52,873 --> 00:17:54,958 And my girl now darling. 338 00:17:56,131 --> 00:17:58,122 - A lot of my friends didn't like him 339 00:17:58,122 --> 00:17:59,123 when they first met him. 340 00:17:59,123 --> 00:18:00,186 And they warned me. 341 00:18:00,186 --> 00:18:01,594 They all said to me, 342 00:18:01,594 --> 00:18:04,127 we don't like the way he watches you 343 00:18:04,127 --> 00:18:06,566 when we are talking to you. 344 00:18:06,566 --> 00:18:11,477 He was very good at isolating me away from my friends. 345 00:18:11,477 --> 00:18:13,916 I wasn't allowed to talk to my male friends 346 00:18:13,916 --> 00:18:15,480 because he would try 347 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,606 and get it into my head 348 00:18:16,606 --> 00:18:19,953 that I would be wanting to sleep with him. 349 00:18:19,953 --> 00:18:22,705 It was like he was controlling me. You gotta movie. 350 00:18:22,705 --> 00:18:24,456 - Shut up you lying bitch. 351 00:18:24,456 --> 00:18:25,325 - You, I'm not lying. 352 00:18:25,325 --> 00:18:26,193 - I know what you're really doing. 353 00:18:26,193 --> 00:18:28,960 You're going out to give fucking late, aren't you? 354 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,524 - I'm not. - Who is he? 355 00:18:30,524 --> 00:18:32,088 One of your bloody clients? 356 00:18:32,088 --> 00:18:33,307 I know you're having it off with them. 357 00:18:33,307 --> 00:18:36,133 - I'm not like, what, you're hitting me. 358 00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:37,739 (glass crashing) 359 00:18:37,739 --> 00:18:38,695 - Lemme go. 360 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,660 - You know, he apparently, 361 00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:46,224 well, for sure he beat her up 362 00:18:46,224 --> 00:18:48,508 and she was quite scared of him. 363 00:18:48,508 --> 00:18:51,604 She found it hard to push her own barrow 364 00:18:51,604 --> 00:18:54,419 and he leapfrogged onto her 365 00:18:54,419 --> 00:18:57,202 and started turning into a master. 366 00:18:57,202 --> 00:19:00,017 - I knew I should be just telling him to go, 367 00:19:00,017 --> 00:19:02,113 but he wouldn't leave me alone. 368 00:19:02,113 --> 00:19:03,992 - He seemed to be the one, 369 00:19:05,459 --> 00:19:09,369 in my opinion at the time, you know, he called the shots 370 00:19:09,369 --> 00:19:14,498 and she was basically a porn in his game. 371 00:19:14,498 --> 00:19:17,282 - Until you've been in that type of relationship, 372 00:19:17,282 --> 00:19:19,252 it's very hard to understand 373 00:19:19,252 --> 00:19:21,379 and very hard to understand 374 00:19:21,379 --> 00:19:25,695 why a woman just doesn't pack her bags and leave. 375 00:19:25,695 --> 00:19:29,917 Because you're wanting to believe that person so much 376 00:19:29,917 --> 00:19:31,328 because you care for them. 377 00:19:34,233 --> 00:19:35,828 I had to leave the House of Dominance 378 00:19:35,828 --> 00:19:37,982 when one of the other girls started giving blow jobs 379 00:19:37,982 --> 00:19:41,208 and masturbation to the clients for more money. 380 00:19:41,208 --> 00:19:42,424 It's not part of B&D. 381 00:19:42,424 --> 00:19:46,149 And when the owner found out, I got the blame for it. 382 00:19:46,149 --> 00:19:48,311 Wasn't me, but she sacked me anyway. 383 00:19:49,371 --> 00:19:50,497 - What happened then? 384 00:19:50,497 --> 00:19:52,154 - Me and Neville got straight jobs, 385 00:19:52,154 --> 00:19:54,239 stayed outta the scene for a year or so. 386 00:19:55,219 --> 00:19:56,533 - Why'd you go back? 387 00:19:56,533 --> 00:20:00,880 - I needed money and B&D is a lot easier than parlor work. 388 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,632 - So you just went out, 389 00:20:02,632 --> 00:20:05,415 bought the gear, started advertising. 390 00:20:05,415 --> 00:20:08,606 - Basically, we made most of the equipment ourselves. 391 00:20:08,606 --> 00:20:10,451 I only have a couple of canes 392 00:20:10,451 --> 00:20:13,297 and whips, a few genital torture weights, 393 00:20:13,297 --> 00:20:14,913 cock rings, that sort of thing. 394 00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:19,208 Then I put an ad in the Auckland Star as Mistress Dominique. 395 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:26,840 When we started up the actual B&D establishment 396 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,435 at Rotomahana Terrace, 397 00:20:29,435 --> 00:20:32,719 it was my intention to save up enough money 398 00:20:32,719 --> 00:20:34,846 just to get a plane ticket to go 399 00:20:34,846 --> 00:20:37,098 to Australia one way and not come back. 400 00:20:37,098 --> 00:20:41,633 You know, because I was not staying with this man. 401 00:20:41,633 --> 00:20:42,637 I had had enough. 402 00:20:44,104 --> 00:20:48,201 I had realized that my life was not gonna change with him 403 00:20:48,201 --> 00:20:51,175 no matter what I did. 404 00:20:55,707 --> 00:21:00,284 Unbeknown to me, he had set up a listening device 405 00:21:01,181 --> 00:21:04,590 in the wardrobe, which played 406 00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:06,675 through the stereo in the lounge. 407 00:21:06,675 --> 00:21:07,936 (door bangs) 408 00:21:07,936 --> 00:21:10,376 I don't know whether it was for security 409 00:21:10,376 --> 00:21:15,349 or whether he was actually listening to hear the sessions. 410 00:21:15,349 --> 00:21:16,537 If he did, he would've heard. 411 00:21:16,537 --> 00:21:18,695 They were all above board. 412 00:21:18,695 --> 00:21:21,013 Strip, shower. 413 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:26,796 But one night Neville misinterpreted 414 00:21:26,796 --> 00:21:29,110 what was going on in the room. 415 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:31,831 He came around the side of the house, 416 00:21:31,831 --> 00:21:36,304 proceeded to smash the big main window, the glass fell in, 417 00:21:36,304 --> 00:21:38,180 which was absolutely terrifying, 418 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:39,900 and the poor chap was more concerned 419 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:41,058 about getting me outta there 420 00:21:41,058 --> 00:21:43,810 for my safety because he could hear Neville saying 421 00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:45,655 what he was going to do to me, that he was going 422 00:21:45,655 --> 00:21:47,594 to kill me and do this. 423 00:21:47,594 --> 00:21:50,472 I've heard this from him before. 424 00:21:50,472 --> 00:21:53,568 Few days later, we had the glaziers come 425 00:21:53,568 --> 00:21:55,174 and replace the windows 426 00:21:56,101 --> 00:21:58,604 and it was like nothing had happened. 427 00:21:58,604 --> 00:22:00,636 You know? And I still don't know. 428 00:22:00,636 --> 00:22:04,984 There was a listening device in the wardrobe. 429 00:22:04,984 --> 00:22:07,548 - Seems strange that Mr. Plumley Walker, who's been 430 00:22:07,548 --> 00:22:09,957 around so long in the Auckland B&D scene, 431 00:22:09,957 --> 00:22:13,084 you open up a new service, which he'd have 432 00:22:13,084 --> 00:22:16,368 to have heard about pretty quickly with his contacts. 433 00:22:16,368 --> 00:22:18,279 You say you've never met him? 434 00:22:19,214 --> 00:22:21,810 Known of them. I've spoken with them. 435 00:22:21,810 --> 00:22:23,815 - No, I haven't. 436 00:22:26,118 --> 00:22:28,316 (upbeat music) 437 00:22:28,316 --> 00:22:30,474 - [Reporter] The last confirmed sighting of Mr. Walker 438 00:22:30,474 --> 00:22:34,446 was at a bank in Ponsonby on Friday, January the 27th, 439 00:22:34,446 --> 00:22:36,729 where he withdrew $200 cash 440 00:22:36,729 --> 00:22:38,449 around two o'clock. 441 00:22:38,449 --> 00:22:41,295 His burnt out car, a bronze Cortina found 442 00:22:41,295 --> 00:22:42,609 on the following Saturday 443 00:22:42,609 --> 00:22:45,583 abandoned in Auckland remains a mystery. 444 00:22:46,581 --> 00:22:49,771 Documents found in Mr. Walker's Herne Bay flat, 445 00:22:49,771 --> 00:22:51,460 including banking records 446 00:22:51,460 --> 00:22:55,026 and some sex literature are continuing to be analyzed 447 00:22:55,026 --> 00:22:56,808 for possible clues. 448 00:22:56,808 --> 00:22:58,466 Police today won't comment 449 00:22:58,466 --> 00:23:00,937 on Mr. Walker's sexual associations, 450 00:23:00,937 --> 00:23:04,002 but it's understood his death may be linked to some form 451 00:23:04,002 --> 00:23:05,663 of sexual activity. 452 00:23:08,162 --> 00:23:12,978 - Some clients, I guess would ask for piercings, 453 00:23:12,978 --> 00:23:14,608 genitalia piercings. 454 00:23:17,576 --> 00:23:19,181 Very heavy whipping 455 00:23:20,985 --> 00:23:23,424 and just things that I'm just not comfortable 456 00:23:23,424 --> 00:23:25,332 and wouldn't be comfortable doing no matter what 457 00:23:25,332 --> 00:23:28,576 the sort of price was being offered. 458 00:23:28,576 --> 00:23:29,679 (telephone rings) 459 00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:31,900 That's why I think I made such a bad mistress 460 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:35,090 because I was not tough enough. 461 00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:38,593 Hello, this is Mistress Dominique. 462 00:23:38,593 --> 00:23:43,632 - I've been a naughty boy. I need to be punished. 463 00:23:45,161 --> 00:23:46,030 - Punished how? 464 00:23:50,197 --> 00:23:53,731 - Good caning, bare skin. 465 00:23:53,731 --> 00:23:56,233 I know I've been thrashed. 466 00:23:56,233 --> 00:24:01,268 Then bondage, very tight arms, legs, neck... 467 00:24:04,083 --> 00:24:06,929 - Hold on. I'm medium, not hardcore. 468 00:24:06,929 --> 00:24:07,993 Maybe you should try someone else. 469 00:24:07,993 --> 00:24:10,867 - No no. It's all right. 470 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,344 I'd like to meet you. Seeing what you're like. 471 00:24:17,344 --> 00:24:18,213 - You sure? 472 00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:22,351 - Is tomorrow convenient, say 4:30? 473 00:24:24,131 --> 00:24:26,946 - I can fit you in, name? 474 00:24:26,946 --> 00:24:28,527 - Peter. 475 00:24:28,527 --> 00:24:30,629 - Rotomahana Terrace, with you there. 476 00:24:31,786 --> 00:24:33,840 (telephone clunks) 477 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,533 (gentle music) 478 00:24:41,583 --> 00:24:44,961 I remember making a booking, him telling me 479 00:24:44,961 --> 00:24:46,775 that he needed to be disciplined. 480 00:24:46,775 --> 00:24:48,623 That he had been naughty. 481 00:24:48,623 --> 00:24:51,577 (electronic beep) 482 00:24:58,832 --> 00:25:00,536 (gentle music) 483 00:25:00,536 --> 00:25:03,289 I was not to know until later on during the trial 484 00:25:03,289 --> 00:25:07,924 what had happened that day to Mr. Walker. 485 00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:08,792 (paper crackles) 486 00:25:08,792 --> 00:25:12,355 (gentle music continues) 487 00:25:18,878 --> 00:25:19,746 (footsteps thunking) 488 00:25:19,746 --> 00:25:22,527 (keys clinking) 489 00:25:28,907 --> 00:25:30,418 (door bangs) 490 00:25:30,418 --> 00:25:33,753 (engine revving) 491 00:25:33,753 --> 00:25:36,660 - He was a guy who was considered 492 00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:39,600 to be an upstanding citizen of the community. 493 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:44,229 You know, travel agent with his unmistakable handled 494 00:25:44,229 --> 00:25:47,513 by mustache and he was a cricket umpire 495 00:25:47,513 --> 00:25:52,726 who you never ever expected someone like that to be 496 00:25:54,738 --> 00:25:56,177 doing what he was doing. 497 00:25:56,177 --> 00:25:59,242 You know, and visiting places like this 498 00:25:59,242 --> 00:26:01,645 and people like this. 499 00:26:01,645 --> 00:26:02,513 (footsteps thunking) 500 00:26:02,513 --> 00:26:05,434 (Peter knocks) 501 00:26:05,434 --> 00:26:08,659 - If that's him, he's fucking early. Charge him extra. 502 00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:15,224 (door creaks) 503 00:26:15,224 --> 00:26:16,092 - Peter. 504 00:26:17,851 --> 00:26:19,196 - Yes. 505 00:26:19,196 --> 00:26:20,134 - Come in. 506 00:26:20,134 --> 00:26:25,347 Of course, it was the mustache that was one to remember. 507 00:26:26,483 --> 00:26:28,003 He was very pleasant. 508 00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:28,923 (door bangs) 509 00:26:28,923 --> 00:26:30,111 - Thank you for seeing me. 510 00:26:30,111 --> 00:26:32,863 - Very polite. A gentleman. 511 00:26:32,863 --> 00:26:33,732 You're early. 512 00:26:36,398 --> 00:26:37,617 - Apologies Mistress. 513 00:26:37,617 --> 00:26:41,183 - [Renee] He knew that all the protocols on what to do. 514 00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:42,051 - Yes Mistress. 515 00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:46,500 - Listen, Renee. 516 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:47,594 Reason I brought you in here 517 00:26:47,594 --> 00:26:50,347 is because everything keeps coming back to you and Neville. 518 00:26:50,347 --> 00:26:52,036 I just wanna run through things again. 519 00:26:52,036 --> 00:26:52,911 - Okay. 520 00:26:52,911 --> 00:26:53,975 - You know, a note was found 521 00:26:53,975 --> 00:26:55,820 beside the victim's phone with your address 522 00:26:55,820 --> 00:26:57,353 and 4:30 written beside it. 523 00:26:57,353 --> 00:26:58,843 - I've seen that note. 524 00:26:58,843 --> 00:27:00,824 It had my address, the number 525 00:27:00,824 --> 00:27:03,170 of the black door, erotic escorts, the geisha bathhouse. 526 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:05,234 - But beside your address is 4:30, 527 00:27:05,234 --> 00:27:06,954 as if an appointment had been made. 528 00:27:06,954 --> 00:27:07,978 - I've never met him. 529 00:27:07,978 --> 00:27:09,258 - Why? 530 00:27:09,258 --> 00:27:11,739 If Plumley Walker was so into B&D, 531 00:27:11,739 --> 00:27:13,053 and we know he had cause to celebrate, 532 00:27:13,053 --> 00:27:14,498 divorce from his wife came through that day. 533 00:27:14,498 --> 00:27:17,244 - Well, I wouldn't know that. - We know he had money. 534 00:27:17,244 --> 00:27:20,935 Why would he book an appointment and not bother to turn up? 535 00:27:20,935 --> 00:27:22,186 - I can't tell you. 536 00:27:22,186 --> 00:27:23,312 I don't know. - See, 537 00:27:23,312 --> 00:27:26,126 is Cortina station wagon found burnt out 538 00:27:26,126 --> 00:27:28,066 less than a mile from your place? 539 00:27:28,066 --> 00:27:29,285 - We can't help it if it's car. 540 00:27:29,285 --> 00:27:30,912 - There's another thing, Renee. 541 00:27:30,912 --> 00:27:33,789 Got a report here from Wairakei Station in Taupo 542 00:27:33,789 --> 00:27:37,796 that at 2:30 AM 28th of January, 543 00:27:39,137 --> 00:27:42,546 gold Cortina station wagon pulls in for gas. 544 00:27:42,546 --> 00:27:46,081 There's a girl with long honey blonde hair like yours 545 00:27:46,081 --> 00:27:47,175 sitting in the passenger seat, 546 00:27:47,175 --> 00:27:49,146 driver fits the description of Neville. 547 00:27:49,146 --> 00:27:50,928 See that gas station, 548 00:27:50,928 --> 00:27:52,336 it's got security cameras 549 00:27:52,336 --> 00:27:54,594 so we can identify the people in that car. 550 00:27:54,594 --> 00:27:57,287 (gentle music) 551 00:27:58,184 --> 00:27:59,053 - It wasn't us. 552 00:28:00,530 --> 00:28:01,573 - Be careful, Renee. 553 00:28:03,393 --> 00:28:06,660 I told you we've got the film. 554 00:28:09,033 --> 00:28:10,515 - Where is it? 555 00:28:10,515 --> 00:28:13,135 - Taupo. It's being sent up. 556 00:28:13,135 --> 00:28:16,698 (gentle music continues) 557 00:28:17,936 --> 00:28:19,932 (paper crackles) 558 00:28:19,932 --> 00:28:22,885 (camera shutters) 559 00:28:25,464 --> 00:28:30,677 (air whooshing) (fire sizzling) 560 00:28:43,273 --> 00:28:45,793 (bell rings) 561 00:29:02,736 --> 00:29:06,472 (gentle music intensifies) 562 00:29:13,832 --> 00:29:16,785 (Police chuckles) 563 00:29:18,644 --> 00:29:20,287 - I just remember thinking, 564 00:29:21,754 --> 00:29:23,943 after that, why would you want to stop 565 00:29:23,943 --> 00:29:26,133 and get a pie and a drink? 566 00:29:26,133 --> 00:29:29,257 You know, I remember being in the car 567 00:29:29,257 --> 00:29:33,392 and just not wanting, putting my hands over my face, 568 00:29:35,234 --> 00:29:39,641 getting down in the seat and just not wanting to be there, 569 00:29:39,641 --> 00:29:42,681 not wanting to be seen by anyone. 570 00:29:43,563 --> 00:29:45,917 (door hinge creaks) 571 00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:47,526 (indistinct) 572 00:29:47,526 --> 00:29:48,394 - Yep. - Yep. 573 00:29:50,731 --> 00:29:52,999 (door creaks) 574 00:29:52,999 --> 00:29:54,928 - I'm Detective Senior Sergeant Dion. 575 00:29:56,439 --> 00:29:57,787 Do you see this Gant? 576 00:29:59,661 --> 00:30:00,880 - Yes. 577 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,122 - We've just taken it off your clothesline. 578 00:30:06,698 --> 00:30:07,702 Whose is it, Renee? 579 00:30:10,232 --> 00:30:11,100 - Neville's. 580 00:30:12,296 --> 00:30:15,007 - Well, he was wearing that when you drove to Taupo. 581 00:30:16,136 --> 00:30:17,929 It's shown clearly on the video. 582 00:30:27,314 --> 00:30:30,593 You want to tell me what happened to Mr. Plummy Walker? 583 00:30:30,593 --> 00:30:33,658 - How can I, I've never met him in my life. 584 00:30:33,658 --> 00:30:38,870 - We're talking, interviewing without video recording, 585 00:30:38,881 --> 00:30:42,071 without even any recording. 586 00:30:42,071 --> 00:30:45,668 It was purely police officers in the room 587 00:30:45,668 --> 00:30:50,422 and you know, they were experienced policemen. 588 00:30:50,422 --> 00:30:52,705 I suppose looking back at it now, 589 00:30:52,705 --> 00:30:54,495 and probably I've certainly thought about it, then, 590 00:30:54,495 --> 00:30:59,148 you know, there was the good cop, bad cop routine going on. 591 00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:01,321 - [Renee] Will I be able to go home tonight? 592 00:31:01,321 --> 00:31:05,841 - Oh no no no. You burned his car, 593 00:31:05,841 --> 00:31:08,124 the very least, that's criminal damage. 594 00:31:08,124 --> 00:31:10,723 So you'll be charged for that, kept in custody. 595 00:31:11,604 --> 00:31:14,025 I've only been honest with you, Renee. 596 00:31:15,199 --> 00:31:17,291 So you show me the same courtesy. 597 00:31:18,852 --> 00:31:20,652 What happened to Plumley Walker? 598 00:31:23,250 --> 00:31:25,770 - Okay, he came to our place, 599 00:31:27,815 --> 00:31:29,726 but I didn't kill him. 600 00:31:39,963 --> 00:31:41,475 - Just tell us what happened. 601 00:31:42,809 --> 00:31:45,593 - Was a relief to get everything out 602 00:31:45,593 --> 00:31:49,033 and to explain to him as best I could, 603 00:31:49,033 --> 00:31:52,848 what had happened from the start. 604 00:31:52,848 --> 00:31:54,173 (gentle music) 605 00:31:54,173 --> 00:31:56,866 (table planks) 606 00:32:01,543 --> 00:32:05,078 - Peter rang on Thursday night, made an appointment with me 607 00:32:05,078 --> 00:32:07,489 for 4:30, Friday afternoon. 608 00:32:09,144 --> 00:32:10,085 He arrived early. 609 00:32:11,489 --> 00:32:14,273 He stripped, showered, and waited in the B&D room, 610 00:32:14,273 --> 00:32:16,340 on his hands and knees, eyes down. 611 00:32:18,996 --> 00:32:20,976 I came back in with a cane in my hand, 612 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,531 asked him what he'd done to be naughty. 613 00:32:24,531 --> 00:32:26,033 Why do you need to be punished? 614 00:32:26,033 --> 00:32:28,597 He told me he'd worked in Germany at a place 615 00:32:28,597 --> 00:32:30,912 they sent naughty children. 616 00:32:30,912 --> 00:32:34,355 If young girls needed punishing, they were sent to him. 617 00:32:35,666 --> 00:32:37,355 He went into a lot of detail 618 00:32:37,355 --> 00:32:41,483 about how he took their clothes off, what he do to them, 619 00:32:41,483 --> 00:32:43,238 how he enjoyed hurting them. 620 00:32:44,423 --> 00:32:46,039 He wanted the same done to him. 621 00:32:48,239 --> 00:32:49,281 - I would cane them. 622 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,524 (cane thumps) 623 00:32:53,524 --> 00:32:56,402 - First, I caned him on his buttocks with a small cane, 624 00:32:56,402 --> 00:32:57,653 then with a thicker one. 625 00:32:58,747 --> 00:33:00,280 Then I put leather straps on his hands 626 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,532 and chained them high up on the wall. 627 00:33:02,532 --> 00:33:05,788 I chained his feet the same way, so he was spread-eagled. 628 00:33:07,974 --> 00:33:09,788 Even if it's a client that has been 629 00:33:09,788 --> 00:33:12,697 around too many establishments, 630 00:33:12,697 --> 00:33:17,482 I always make them understand that I have a certain word 631 00:33:17,482 --> 00:33:20,769 and that's just a safety word for both of us. 632 00:33:22,423 --> 00:33:23,292 And what's our word? 633 00:33:23,292 --> 00:33:24,856 - Mercy, Mistress Mercy. 634 00:33:25,934 --> 00:33:26,802 - Good. 635 00:33:26,802 --> 00:33:28,111 (gentle music) 636 00:33:28,111 --> 00:33:31,632 (fist thumping) (chain clanking) 637 00:33:31,632 --> 00:33:34,590 I put a dog collar around his neck 638 00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:36,876 and clipped it to a chain from the ceiling. 639 00:33:38,562 --> 00:33:40,241 I asked him if it was tight and after, he said- 640 00:33:40,241 --> 00:33:41,364 - No mistress. I want very tight. 641 00:33:41,364 --> 00:33:44,948 - No mistress. I want tight bondage. 642 00:33:44,948 --> 00:33:47,348 (chains clanking) 643 00:33:47,348 --> 00:33:48,261 Are you okay? 644 00:33:48,261 --> 00:33:49,864 (Walker wheezing) 645 00:33:49,864 --> 00:33:51,563 - Yes, mistress. 646 00:33:51,563 --> 00:33:54,083 (bell rings) 647 00:33:55,295 --> 00:33:58,203 - The main feel I got for Renee came from her dad. 648 00:33:58,203 --> 00:33:59,611 He'd done a lot for his daughter 649 00:33:59,611 --> 00:34:01,831 and he cared for her terribly 650 00:34:01,831 --> 00:34:05,553 and was very upset that she'd ended up doing this, 651 00:34:05,553 --> 00:34:07,742 and with the guy she was with. 652 00:34:07,742 --> 00:34:10,119 - My father liked to do what he liked to do. 653 00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,377 You know, he was a very headstrong person. 654 00:34:13,377 --> 00:34:14,873 (footsteps thunking) 655 00:34:14,873 --> 00:34:16,437 My father was a photographer 656 00:34:16,437 --> 00:34:18,755 and he was a great photographer. 657 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,286 - Tell me, which one do you like? 658 00:34:22,286 --> 00:34:24,349 - He became the main photographer 659 00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:27,071 and editor of the Natures Magazine, 660 00:34:27,071 --> 00:34:29,639 which is the magazine for the Sun Club. 661 00:34:31,293 --> 00:34:33,264 My parents sent me to a Catholic school 662 00:34:33,264 --> 00:34:34,859 when I was very young. 663 00:34:34,859 --> 00:34:38,800 I had told our teacher at the time, Sister Olson, 664 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,844 who was a good nun 665 00:34:42,834 --> 00:34:47,588 that had been to the Sun Club, and I had drawn a picture 666 00:34:47,588 --> 00:34:51,060 on the book with what was up on the pool wall, 667 00:34:51,060 --> 00:34:52,342 which said no running 668 00:34:52,342 --> 00:34:54,875 around the pool, no diving, 669 00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:57,972 no peeing in pool and no togs in the pool. 670 00:34:57,972 --> 00:35:01,662 And that, to this day, I believe the sign is still there. 671 00:35:01,662 --> 00:35:04,477 And I remember the sister saying, 672 00:35:04,477 --> 00:35:07,167 what do you mean no togs in the pool, Renee? 673 00:35:07,167 --> 00:35:10,576 So I proceeded to say, you know, it's a Sun Club. 674 00:35:10,576 --> 00:35:13,926 We don't wear clothes up there if you don't want to. 675 00:35:15,549 --> 00:35:17,644 And I got removed from the classroom. 676 00:35:17,644 --> 00:35:18,833 My parents came in 677 00:35:18,833 --> 00:35:21,585 and they were both a bit shocked that I had been honest, 678 00:35:21,585 --> 00:35:24,932 you know, and I couldn't understand 679 00:35:24,932 --> 00:35:27,403 what the big trouble was. 680 00:35:27,403 --> 00:35:32,125 I was very confused as to why it was such a secret, 681 00:35:32,125 --> 00:35:34,033 why it was frowned upon, 682 00:35:34,033 --> 00:35:36,795 because there was nothing bad happening at the club. 683 00:35:36,795 --> 00:35:39,315 (indistinct) 684 00:35:40,664 --> 00:35:43,716 Unfortunately there was violence in my household. 685 00:35:43,716 --> 00:35:47,113 (Parents quarreling) 686 00:35:47,113 --> 00:35:50,240 (suspenseful music) 687 00:35:52,795 --> 00:35:55,314 (Mom crying) 688 00:35:57,833 --> 00:36:01,743 It wasn't a nice home life to see your mother 689 00:36:03,151 --> 00:36:04,968 hurt on a regular basis. 690 00:36:06,435 --> 00:36:08,659 But that really breaks my heart, you know? 691 00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:11,721 And for years I used to say, 692 00:36:11,721 --> 00:36:15,373 my father, I'll never ever be with a man like you, ever. 693 00:36:20,103 --> 00:36:22,542 Unfortunately, when I met Neville, 694 00:36:22,542 --> 00:36:26,142 I went into a absolute mirror image of my father. 695 00:36:27,379 --> 00:36:28,485 (bird chirps) 696 00:36:28,485 --> 00:36:32,113 A lot of regret in that sense, a lot of regret 697 00:36:32,113 --> 00:36:35,209 'cause you don't hurt something you love, you don't. 698 00:36:35,209 --> 00:36:36,182 You don't do that. 699 00:36:37,461 --> 00:36:40,682 He felt guilty about the fact that he and his wife had 700 00:36:40,682 --> 00:36:44,310 separated when Renee was only 13 701 00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:47,250 and quite young and just going into her teens 702 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:48,866 and it seemed to throw her off. 703 00:36:49,815 --> 00:36:52,682 (engine revving) 704 00:36:59,412 --> 00:37:01,450 (door bangs) 705 00:37:01,450 --> 00:37:06,662 - Renee, I'm going to read you the notes of our conversation 706 00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:10,958 and then I'm go through it paragraph by paragraph 707 00:37:10,958 --> 00:37:13,554 so that you can sign it off, okay? 708 00:37:13,554 --> 00:37:14,422 - Yeah. Okay. 709 00:37:16,337 --> 00:37:18,464 Detective Doin came back 710 00:37:18,464 --> 00:37:21,967 in at a later stage with this statement, 711 00:37:21,967 --> 00:37:26,286 a few paragraphs long which I supposedly had said. 712 00:37:28,316 --> 00:37:32,131 - He alleged a number of admissions, the recording 713 00:37:32,131 --> 00:37:35,478 of which was suspect in which we challenged. 714 00:37:35,478 --> 00:37:37,542 - His statement was full of swearing, 715 00:37:37,542 --> 00:37:42,755 saying that I hated this man, Mr. Walker, 716 00:37:43,579 --> 00:37:47,300 that I wanted to kill him, 717 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,646 that I wanted to hurt him, 718 00:37:49,646 --> 00:37:54,859 all swearing through it, which is not the way that I talk. 719 00:37:57,809 --> 00:38:01,778 And I certainly, I refuse to sign it 720 00:38:01,778 --> 00:38:04,124 because I didn't say those things. 721 00:38:04,124 --> 00:38:05,518 (papers crackle) 722 00:38:05,518 --> 00:38:06,945 No, this isn't right. 723 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,792 I didn't say in that case it's murder. 724 00:38:12,227 --> 00:38:14,948 And I didn't say I left the bastard hanging there. 725 00:38:14,948 --> 00:38:17,422 I said I left him happily hanging. 726 00:38:18,733 --> 00:38:21,954 I told you I lifted him up, but only to his tiptoes, 727 00:38:21,954 --> 00:38:23,581 not until his feet were off the ground. 728 00:38:23,581 --> 00:38:25,179 I never said that. 729 00:38:28,147 --> 00:38:30,902 He knew what to say if things were too tight. 730 00:38:32,056 --> 00:38:34,121 I didn't think you stupid bastard. 731 00:38:34,121 --> 00:38:36,466 No, I never said any of that. 732 00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:39,156 And I didn't put a rope around his neck. 733 00:38:39,156 --> 00:38:40,949 - Well, it's a fact, Renee, he was found 734 00:38:40,949 --> 00:38:42,628 with a rope around his neck. 735 00:38:42,628 --> 00:38:44,192 So what do you say about that? 736 00:38:45,067 --> 00:38:47,131 - I'm not gonna say anything further. 737 00:38:47,131 --> 00:38:48,160 - And why is that? 738 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,978 - I'm just not gonna say anything more 739 00:38:49,978 --> 00:38:51,232 about the whole thing. 740 00:38:54,474 --> 00:38:57,167 (upbeat music) 741 00:39:01,331 --> 00:39:03,082 - Good evening, an 18-year-old woman 742 00:39:03,082 --> 00:39:05,178 and a 34-year-old man have appeared 743 00:39:05,178 --> 00:39:06,773 in court charged in connection 744 00:39:06,773 --> 00:39:09,775 with the bizarre Plumley Walker murder mystery. 745 00:39:09,775 --> 00:39:11,965 - [Reporter] She was Renee Melanie Chignell, 746 00:39:11,965 --> 00:39:12,872 on the charge sheet 747 00:39:12,872 --> 00:39:16,062 described as a self-employed dominatrix, 748 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:19,846 defined in the dictionary as a dominator mistress or lady, 749 00:39:19,846 --> 00:39:21,181 but commonly known as a person 750 00:39:21,181 --> 00:39:25,257 who assumes the aggressive role and sexual bondage. 751 00:39:25,257 --> 00:39:27,603 Her appearance in court was closely followed 752 00:39:27,603 --> 00:39:31,700 by the man charged with being an accessory after the fact. 753 00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:33,608 After lengthy bail applications, 754 00:39:33,608 --> 00:39:37,064 Chignell and Walker were both remanded in custody. 755 00:39:37,064 --> 00:39:39,584 (door thuds) 756 00:39:42,928 --> 00:39:45,051 - [Renee] I remember vehemently- 757 00:39:45,051 --> 00:39:46,525 - [Guard] Good. 758 00:39:46,525 --> 00:39:50,868 - Having to take off my shoes and shoelaces. 759 00:39:50,868 --> 00:39:53,343 (door bangs) 760 00:39:53,343 --> 00:39:56,033 but just feeling so vulnerable. 761 00:39:56,033 --> 00:40:01,245 Just, was absolutely horrifying. 762 00:40:02,350 --> 00:40:06,448 It was scary. It was dirty. 763 00:40:06,448 --> 00:40:11,170 It was cold. I was terrified. 764 00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:12,831 I was absolutely terrified. 765 00:40:14,955 --> 00:40:16,571 You can't make me out, can you? 766 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,107 - No. 767 00:40:21,207 --> 00:40:22,527 But him he can. 768 00:40:23,462 --> 00:40:24,400 - [Renee] Make me. 769 00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:28,563 - You got a lawyer. 770 00:40:30,718 --> 00:40:33,533 - My dad's lawyer suggested someone really good. 771 00:40:33,533 --> 00:40:37,286 He's coming in soon. But Dad gets here first. 772 00:40:37,286 --> 00:40:39,663 This is all I've got with me. 773 00:40:39,663 --> 00:40:42,196 - I can need you some jeans if you want. 774 00:40:42,196 --> 00:40:43,228 - Would you? 775 00:40:43,228 --> 00:40:46,922 - Yeah. Us girls are gonna look after each other herein. 776 00:40:51,921 --> 00:40:53,299 (footsteps thunking) 777 00:40:53,299 --> 00:40:56,927 - I remember this girl there, this blonde girl, 778 00:40:56,927 --> 00:40:59,898 but there was really nothing there. 779 00:40:59,898 --> 00:41:03,652 So to see her in court on my first trial 780 00:41:05,372 --> 00:41:09,190 was quite a surprise to say the least. 781 00:41:13,629 --> 00:41:16,443 - Renee? - Yes. Hi. 782 00:41:16,443 --> 00:41:20,700 The issue always was cause of death. 783 00:41:22,824 --> 00:41:26,076 - Was it strangulation at Auckland 784 00:41:26,076 --> 00:41:30,141 or was it drowning at the Huka Falls? 785 00:41:30,141 --> 00:41:35,354 And then the second crucial question was their knowledge 786 00:41:38,868 --> 00:41:44,081 of whether he was dead in Auckland or still alive 787 00:41:45,092 --> 00:41:50,065 and taken to the Huka Falls and thrown over alive. 788 00:41:50,065 --> 00:41:52,021 Those were the crucial issues. 789 00:41:52,021 --> 00:41:55,601 (whimsical music) 790 00:41:55,601 --> 00:41:58,353 - [Reporter] Auckland's high Court was swamped by reporters. 791 00:41:58,353 --> 00:42:00,074 - Well, not only was it a, you know, 792 00:42:00,074 --> 00:42:02,169 sensational, jolly trial. 793 00:42:02,169 --> 00:42:05,297 I mean it was, had everyone talking around the country, 794 00:42:05,297 --> 00:42:08,768 but it had so much media interest because of that. 795 00:42:08,768 --> 00:42:10,238 And you had TV Three, 796 00:42:10,238 --> 00:42:14,023 which was relatively new on the media landscape. 797 00:42:14,023 --> 00:42:17,400 You had TVNZ you had, you know, radio and newspapers 798 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,810 and every day they would all turn up. 799 00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:24,333 - So it was just absolutely full on. 800 00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:27,815 It was a kind of change in media 801 00:42:27,815 --> 00:42:31,099 and it just put the imagination of the whole lot of them 802 00:42:31,099 --> 00:42:32,611 'cause they're good pictures. 803 00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:35,541 Good story. Got everything. 804 00:42:35,541 --> 00:42:37,918 I'd never seen media like that before. 805 00:42:37,918 --> 00:42:39,169 You know, gathering in a place 806 00:42:39,169 --> 00:42:41,733 and everyone jostling the position. 807 00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:45,364 It was a media scrum, right? - Get it out of us. 808 00:42:50,021 --> 00:42:52,398 - Because it's something I'd never gone through before. 809 00:42:52,398 --> 00:42:56,214 You know, this was a whole different world to me 810 00:42:56,214 --> 00:42:58,904 because you're right there next to the jury. 811 00:42:58,904 --> 00:43:02,188 There'd be a lot of eye contact and smiling 812 00:43:02,188 --> 00:43:05,670 and when certain witnesses were called up 813 00:43:07,661 --> 00:43:10,903 and I had a good rapport between several members 814 00:43:10,903 --> 00:43:12,231 of the first jury. 815 00:43:14,542 --> 00:43:19,077 With witness A, she wasn't someone I really spoke to 816 00:43:19,077 --> 00:43:22,455 or passed the time of day with. 817 00:43:22,455 --> 00:43:27,521 When she first came out, she was perfectly groomed, 818 00:43:27,521 --> 00:43:29,867 not a here outta place. 819 00:43:29,867 --> 00:43:32,963 They made her up to look like a secretary. 820 00:43:32,963 --> 00:43:36,560 She looked like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth. 821 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,251 - She was able to recount movements in the prison. 822 00:43:40,251 --> 00:43:42,815 And when Renee had spoken to her 823 00:43:42,815 --> 00:43:47,038 and all that sort of, yes, she did have a detailed story. 824 00:43:47,038 --> 00:43:51,979 - Renee said to me that if she told the police the truth 825 00:43:51,979 --> 00:43:54,064 that they would both be done for murder. 826 00:43:54,942 --> 00:43:58,297 - [Jury] Did she tell you anything else on the matter? 827 00:43:58,297 --> 00:44:01,112 - Yes, she said that she had spoken to Neville 828 00:44:01,112 --> 00:44:03,864 about some of the stories that Mr. Plumley Walker 829 00:44:03,864 --> 00:44:08,871 had been telling her about abusing little girls. 830 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:11,777 And Neville was quite drunk that night. 831 00:44:11,777 --> 00:44:13,310 So he went into the room 832 00:44:13,310 --> 00:44:17,910 and started beating Mr. Plumley Walker with his fists. 833 00:44:19,315 --> 00:44:20,889 Then he left the room 834 00:44:22,098 --> 00:44:24,194 and came back with an iron bar 835 00:44:24,194 --> 00:44:27,415 that she indicated was about that big. 836 00:44:27,415 --> 00:44:29,417 - [Jury] Two to three feet long. 837 00:44:29,417 --> 00:44:34,515 - Yes, she said that he started beating Mr. Plumley Walker 838 00:44:34,515 --> 00:44:38,362 with the iron bar and she had been so disgusted 839 00:44:38,362 --> 00:44:40,551 that she had to leave the room. 840 00:44:40,551 --> 00:44:43,170 - Everyone was absolutely astonished. 841 00:44:43,170 --> 00:44:45,618 You know, they just couldn't believe. 842 00:44:45,618 --> 00:44:48,745 - I thought of manslaughter at most, 843 00:44:48,745 --> 00:44:53,024 but murder seemed way off the mark. 844 00:44:53,024 --> 00:44:58,237 (whimsical music) (water rumbling) 845 00:45:25,989 --> 00:45:29,116 (suspenseful music) 62156

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