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Bye.
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much for joining us it has been a busy
week europe got to enjoy a solar eclipse
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nigel farage won a by-election so stupid
the candidate in second place with over
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a quarter of the vote by the way was
count bin face and the iran war dragged
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on with a series of humiliating news
headlines including this revelation
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about trump's trip home from last
month's nato summit New details of the
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elaborate operation by the Secret
Service to covertly swap President
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Trump's planes amid fears of an Iranian
assassination plot. The president had
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arrived aboard his Qatari gifted Air
Force One, but raised eyebrows by
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announcing he'd take an older plane
home, sending the new plane ahead to a
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British airbase.
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The Washington Post now reports that the
president immediately sneaked off the
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plane and onto a catering truck that
whisked him off to a smaller military
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jet. In video from that day, you see the
president boarding with a wave.
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But as the camera pulls back, there's a
catering truck below.
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Five minutes later, the press seem
boarding the back of the plane as that
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catering truck pulls away, reportedly
with the president concealed inside.
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Fantastic.
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The only problem I can see there is,
next time he needs to escape, he's not
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going to be able to use the catering
truck trick again because everyone knows
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about it now. People are going to be
suspicious from now on if they see a
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plane go one way, a catering truck go
another, and an enormous man-sized cake
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get wheeled away by two suspiciously
jacked chefs.
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For one, it clearly doesn't look great.
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for a president to be emergency hiding
in a catering truck. It looks even worse
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when you remember a lot of other people
were still on that plane that he was
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smuggled off on.
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Still on board the 747, though, dozens
of journalists and White House staffers,
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as well as Secretary of State Marco
Rubio and Treasury Secretary Scott
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Besnick. That plane lifting off,
believed to be the intended target.
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Yeah, not great.
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There were a lot of innocent people on
that plane, and also Marco Rubio.
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Meanwhile, for those actually having to
fight this war, it's been grim. Just
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this week, we learned horrendous details
about conditions on the USS Abraham
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Lincoln, which has been deployed for
more than 250 days, including over 200
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without a port call, which is apparently
more than any other aircraft carrier in
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the modern era.
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Life on that ship sounds like it's been
desperate.
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Families reportedly confronted Navy
leaders at town halls last week,
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describing moldy showers, broken
toilets, food shortages, and no soap or
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toothpaste. Families of those on board
told the Military Times at least two
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sailors have tried to jump from the
carrier.
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Danielle Rapa's son is on board.
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He describes the overall experience as a
scene out of the American Horror Story,
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where he feels like everybody is dead,
but they don't know it yet.
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Well, that's not good. You never want to
be in a position where you describe your
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job as a scene out of American horror
story.
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Honestly, if you absolutely have to
choose a Ryan Murphy show for your
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workplace to resemble, the obvious
answer is all's fair. Kim Kardashian,
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Nisi Nashbet, Tiana Taylor, Naomi Watts,
Sarah Paulson, and Glenn Close in
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different shades of magenta suits, as
well as dialogue like this.
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Car. Sweet. How are you?
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Never mind me. How are you holding up,
you poor discarded comrade?
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Yeah, that's the Ryan Murphy production
you're going to want to be sucking.
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Not this floating fucking nightmare.
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Now, Pete Hegseth has claimed that the
ship conditions are being completely
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misrepresented by those who are actually
experiencing them, saying, we make sure
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that every ship, every crew, every
captain has everything we can provide at
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every single moment. And if he means to
go certifiably insane, I'm inclined to
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agree with him there. But the
administration's list of the resources
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offered on board has not been
reassuring.
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A U.S. official tells ABC News they have
not seen an uptick in mental health
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issues and say the Lincoln has a variety
of resources on board, including one
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clinical psychologist, five chaplains,
and three behavioral health technicians.
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They also have one therapy dog on board
named Captain Fathom, whose job it is to
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ease anxiety among the crew.
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Holy shit, that is way too much pressure
to put on one dog.
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Especially one with a thousand-yard fare
like that.
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He doesn't seem like a therapy dog so
much as a dog who desperately needs
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therapy.
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I'm just saying there is absolutely a
CVS that has a bottle of Lexapro with
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Captain Fathom's name on it.
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And look, there'll clearly be more to
say about Iran going forward, but for
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now, we're actually going to dive
straight in with our main story this
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week, which concerns pregnancy.
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A great way to still not get a seat on
the subway.
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Specifically, I want to talk about
something called fetal personhood, the
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concept that a fetus is, from
conception, a separate, unique human
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with its own rights distinct from the
person it's rather unavoidably inside.
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The concept is, unsurprisingly, usually
associated with the anti-abortion
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movement, and post-Dobbs, it's been
getting a lot more attention.
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Fetal personhood is a once fringe idea
now at the centre of anti-abortion
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advocacy. The fetal personhood movement
aims to grant full legal rights and
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protections to fetuses, and in some
cases, embryos. About a third of states
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have established fetal personhood by law
or judicial decision.
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Okay, first, nice Horton here's a who
sign there, though.
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You should probably know, according to
Dr Seuss' biographer, back in the 80s,
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he actually threatened to sue an
anti-abortion rights group that used
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that quote on its stationery, after
which they backed down, which is a
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little surprising, given stay out of my
fucking business is not usually a
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message these groups tend to respond to.
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The fetal personhood idea can be
embedded in laws in a bunch of different
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ways, and some can initially sound
appealing, like ones that make it a
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crime to cause the death of an unborn
child during an act of domestic
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violence. But once the law recognizes a
fetus as a separate victim, if you get
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pregnant, that same logic can quickly be
weaponized against you and in all sorts
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of ways.
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Hundreds of women across the country
have been arrested or lost custody of
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their children for reasons related to
their pregnancies.
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Brittany Watts, a 33-year-old black
woman, says she went to the hospital
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multiple times after bleeding during her
pregnancy.
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Watts returned home where she suffered a
miscarriage. Now she's being charged
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with abuse of a corpse. A woman from
Alabama suffered a miscarriage after
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being shot. And now she's being charged
with manslaughter for the death of her
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unborn child.
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Wow, that is bleak. If you suffer a
miscarriage after being shot, you
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shouldn't be charged with manslaughter.
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That's one of those sentences I never
thought I'd end up needing to say out
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loud, like, cocaine pollution gives
salmon wanderlust, or young Richard
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Nixon was hot.
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Yikes, by the way, I would let that guy
break into my Watergate hotel.
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And that is just the beginning here,
because over the years, the fetal
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personhood has been the basis of legal
cases involving everything from a
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pregnant woman who fell down a flight of
stairs and who was charged with
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attempted fetal homicide, to a bonkers
story involving this woman. She was in
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the middle of a long delivery and was a
professional doula, by the way. She'd
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had three prior C-sections and hoped to
avoid a fourth, only to find the
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situation suddenly out of her hands.
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She was in her 12th hour of labor in the
hospital when Sharice Doiley suddenly
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found herself in front of a Florida
judge from her hospital bed. A nurse
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wheeling in a tablet with the judge,
doctors, lawyers, and others on Zoom.
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That was exactly when I found out that
we were going to court.
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Video obtained by NBC News shows the
32-year-old Black woman in her hospital
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bed pulled into a virtual emergency
court hearing as Florida state attorneys
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on behalf of the hospital sought a
court-ordered C-section.
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Nobody is here to speak for me. When
Doily asks if she can call a lawyer or a
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patient advocate, the judge says...
There's not a constitutional right to
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counsel in one of these proceedings.
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Holy shit, that is a fucking outrage.
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Every part of that is wrong, including
that it should be illegal to make a
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woman giving birth get on a video call
of any kind.
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I don't even like being on a Zoom when I
am not giving birth.
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And for the record, how, 12 hours into
Labour, was she composed enough to ask
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for counsel so calmly there? She could
have reasonably screamed, shit, piss,
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cock, motherfucker, and changed her Zoom
background into a million middle
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fingers, and any smart judge would have
said, you're right, that's an entirely
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fair point.
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Fetal personhood isn't just a fringe
idea.
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It's been a quiet goal of the
anti-abortion movement for decades now.
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But it's been picking up real speed in
recent years.
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In 2023, a group of anti-abortion
lawyers and activists even explicitly
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set a post-op goal of recognising fetal
personhood. And with this Supreme Court,
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I frankly wouldn't bet against them.
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So given all of that tonight, let's talk
about fetal personhood, where the idea
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comes from, all the surprising ways in
which it can be applied, and where
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things could be heading next. And let's
start with the fact that the basic
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concept of a fetus being its own person
with distinct rights is nothing new.
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In fact, here is one of its major
proponents laying out the argument in
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1984. I believe that until and unless
someone can establish that the unborn
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child is not a living human being,
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then that child is already protected by
the Constitution, which guarantees life,
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liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to
all of us.
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Yeah, there are you.
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It seems you cannot trace the source of
any modern problem without a cameo from
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this messy bitch. He truly is the
Forrest Gump of societal ills. But the
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thing is, Reagan could believe that all
he liked.
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It still wasn't law in the US. In fact,
when the Supreme Court decided Roe v.
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Wade, it explicitly rejected fetal
personhood, stating the word person, as
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used in the 14th Amendment, does not
include the unborn.
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However, it did leave the door open a
crack by holding that the state has an
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important and legitimate interest in
protecting the potentiality of human
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life. And that was no small thing,
because it meant that as long as states
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didn't explicitly ban abortion...
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They were legally able to expand
protections for fetuses, and for years,
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many did just that. Some states defined
a person to include a fetus throughout
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their criminal codes, while in other
places, prosecutors expanded their use
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of child abuse and neglect laws to
police the conduct of pregnant women.
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But after Dobbs, the guardrails fully
came off, because state legislators felt
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that they could push much more
aggressively for fetal personhood
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legislation, with some pretty creative
arguments.
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Probably none more so than the one this
North Dakota state legislator made last
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year. We have to be brave enough,
righteous enough, and have enough
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integrity, not only to our oath of
office, but to all the claims of being
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pro-life and to being Christian, and
actually do what the word of God says.
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And in case you don't know if a baby at
conception is human or not, I would like
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you to show me the first kangaroo or
plant that came out of a woman's womb.
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What?
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On earth are you talking about?
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Obviously no woman is pregnant with a
kangaroo. I wouldn't blame any woman who
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wanted to fool around with one,
especially this guy, or indeed this one
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right here. But that is not the point,
is it?
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The point is, here is what's tricky
about all of this. One side is saying,
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hey, a woman should have a right to
control what happens in her own body.
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And the other is saying, so you think
you give birth to a kangaroo?
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And I honestly don't know how we meet in
the middle there.
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But the obvious consequence of these
laws is they treat the individual
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carrying the fetus as something less
than a full human. And the very moment
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you're pregnant, you become merely a
means to an end. And it is not like some
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legislators have needed much
encouragement on that front. During an
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interview about an abortion law in
Oklahoma in 2017, this guy, its sponsor,
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referred to pregnant people as hosts.
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And his justification for doing so
wasn't ideal.
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When I used the term host, it's not
meant to degrade women.
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I actually went and Googled that and I
went to Webster and I couldn't find a
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better term.
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I mean, look, congratulations, I guess,
on going to Webster or whatever.
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But there are only a handful of
situations where it's acceptable to call
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a woman a host if she works front of
house at a restaurant, if she invites
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you over for dinner, if she has her own
talk show, or if you're talking about
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Annabelle, host of the demonic spirit
permanently trapped inside her.
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And the thing about fetal personhood is
it can be used not just to limit
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abortion, but to criminalise other
conduct during pregnancy seen as
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jeopardising a fetus in any way, like
drinking or drug use. And look, no one
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is saying... that it's a great idea to
drink or take drugs while pregnant.
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After all, you don't want your kid to
come out too cool.
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But for many substances, the risks to a
fetus, while real...
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are actually far more complex and often
far less clear cut than the law assumes.
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The problem is the law can take a zero
tolerance approach and unfortunately
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many hospitals drug test pregnant women
and their newborns often without their
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knowledge and in at least 27 states
they're required by law to alert child
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welfare agencies about a positive test.
But that is a big issue especially given
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drug tests can be notoriously
inaccurate.
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Just listen to this woman describe what
a nurse told her right after she'd given
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birth to her second child.
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She told me that my drug screen tested
positive for opioids, for morphine
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specifically. Katie says the test
results didn't make sense.
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She had never taken any opiates or
illicit drugs.
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But that day before coming to the
hospital.
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She did have an everything bagel. For
nearly a month, Katie was only allowed
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supervised time with her children.
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And although she was breastfeeding, she
had to leave her house at night.
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I would leave the house and I would
scream in my car because I was so
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devastated to leave her.
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Sorry. That's okay. What was that like?
It was torture. I mean, it was pain I've
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never felt before.
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Katie, did you feel that there was a
risk that if you didn't follow
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everything you were told to do, you
could lose your children? Absolutely.
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Yeah, all of that over a fucking bagel.
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It should not be possible for your life
to get fucked up that badly just based
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on what you had for breakfast. Unless,
of course, the breakfast in question is
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honey smacks, in which case, honestly,
you kind of deserve whatever happens to
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you. You're a bad person.
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And the thing is, it's common knowledge
that those drug screens are easily
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misinterpreted and often wrong, with
false positive rates as high as 50%. But
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if you need convincing any further,
please enjoy this lawyer that they
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talked to for that story, who brought a
magnificent visual aid with her.
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Here's a cup of my urine.
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If I give it to you, you can test it.
Maybe it's positive.
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But it can't tell you if I'm a...
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addicted, undependent, and yet for
thousands of women in this country and
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families, probably millions, a drug test
is used as a parenting test.
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Okay, so a few things. First, I'm not
sure that's quite as exonerating as you
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want it to be, as being able to produce
a jar of piss unprompted might be the
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most definitely on drugs behavior I have
ever seen.
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And also...
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Well, I'm completely on that lawyer's
side. I can't help wondering if she's
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had a cup of water today.
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And even if she has, would she like me
to get her another one?
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And referrals to law enforcement over
alleged drug use during pregnancy are
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not remotely uncommon.
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One investigation found in a six-year
period at least 70,000 such cases across
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21 states, a number which is almost
certainly an undercount.
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And in many cases, the referrals began
with false positive results from flawed
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drug tests. But look, let's acknowledge
that sometimes a positive drug test does
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indicate that someone has used drugs.
Well, to hear some lawmakers tell it, we
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need to criminalize that because how
else are we going to encourage expectant
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mothers to clean up their act?
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You use the carrot and the stick. You
know, the stick is, hey, this is hanging
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over my head. If I don't get clean, if I
don't get rid of this drug use.
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then I'm going to go to jail and I may
lose my child.
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But if I test negative, if I do a good
job of getting clean, I'm going
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to get to lead a normal life with my
child.
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Wait, that is just a terrible analogy
because if the stick is the fear of
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going to jail and the carrot...
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is getting to lead a normal life with
your child. And it feels like the
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scenario that you are describing there
is the same as the answer to the
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question, what has Owen Wilson been up
to lately? By which I mean, mostly
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stick.
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But doctors will point out some key
flaws with that approach. First,
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quitting drugs cold turkey can cause
complications that trigger miscarriage
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or an early labour. And second,
terrifyingly expectant mothers with the
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threat of jail time carries its own set
of risks.
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Scaring the mom to the point that she's
not coming to get health care during her
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pregnancy or not disclosing her drug use
so that she can get the support and
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treatment that she needs, none of those
things are protecting the baby.
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Putting the mom in jail and taking the
baby away is not protecting the baby.
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There are lots of unsafe things that
women do during pregnancy.
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I might recommend that they take a
certain medication for diabetes and they
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don't take it, and their sugars are
really high.
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Very harmful to them and their baby, but
no one's putting them in jail or taking
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their baby away Of course right there
are plenty of things women shouldn't be
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allowed to do while they're pregnant But
we let them anyway like eating sushi or
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bungee jumping or driving or math or is
anybody going to stop me right now?
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I'm listing things that I, John, think
women shouldn't be able to do. Someone
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should have jumped in and stopped me by
now. None of you are my real friends.
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That was a test and you all failed. We
are in a fight right now.
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The point is, babies clearly do better
when their moms go to doctor's
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appointments and ideally are not thrown
in jail as part of a bullshit carrot and
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stick approach. And the way some of
these laws work in practice...
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is an absolute nightmare.
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That woman you saw earlier is by no
means the only one who wound up dragged
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into court over a state's concerns for
her fetus. Think what happened to this
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Wisconsin woman who'd been using meth,
but when she learned she was pregnant,
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immediately stopped.
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She voluntarily checked into a hospital
seeking help for depression and other
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issues. While there, a urine test came
back positive for drugs. And when
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doctors asked her about her past usage,
she was completely honest with them. And
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for good reason.
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My decision to tell the doctors about my
drug use was solely so that if I
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did anything wrong and they could give
me something that would help my baby
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because of what I had done, I had no
hesitation because he was the only thing
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I was thinking about.
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The ER doctor was like, don't worry. All
that matters is that you're here and
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you're getting help now.
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He's like, your baby will be fine.
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He left the room.
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And it started from there.
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Now, as you can probably guess, things
didn't go great from that point on,
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which shouldn't really be a surprise,
because, and it started from there,
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isn't generally the lead-in to an
uplifting story. It's an ominous set-up,
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right up there with, it was a dark and
stormy night, or, welcome, welcome,
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welcome to last week's night.
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And what followed was a fucking
nightmare, because when she tried to
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leave the hospital, this happened.
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When the social worker came into my room
and said, there's a hearing, we need you
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to come to the conference room right
now, it was a shock.
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And then all of a sudden, like, there's
a speakerphone in the middle of the
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room, and she's putting a judge on. This
is the time and date set for a temporary
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physical custody hearing.
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The guardian ad litem for the unborn
child is Michael Schiffler. Ms.
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Gropp, what's the county's position on
where Ms.
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Blacher is going to be placed until the
child is born?
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I didn't know what was going on, and the
first thing I said was, I don't want to
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talk unless I have a lawyer.
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The 14-week-old fetus had a lawyer at
this hearing who was taking a position
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adverse to Tammy and was represented by
counsel, where Tammy, who had asked for
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a lawyer, did not have one and was
denied one.
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Yeah, the fetus had a lawyer, but she
didn't.
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And remember, this happened when she was
just 14 weeks pregnant. At that point,
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you may not even be able to tell the sex
from an ultrasound.
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Honestly, if you tried to do a gender
reveal that early, the closest you might
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get is, it's a plaintiff!
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And the state didn't allow her to leave
the hospital on the grounds that doing
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so was contrary to the unborn child's
best interest. In the end, after she
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refused court-ordered inpatient drug
treatment, she was jailed for 18 days,
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including about 36 hours in solitary
confinement, which is arguably a weird
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thing to do to someone whose health
you're supposedly trying to safeguard.
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And amazingly, it can get even worse,
because under fetal personhood laws...
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Pregnancy loss can create yet another
path into the criminal system, with
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miscarriages and stillbirths sometimes
treated as suspicious.
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There are multiple stories of women
being investigated or even charged with
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crimes, including murder, following a
pregnancy loss, which is utterly
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bonkers, given that every year in the US
there are approximately 5 million
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pregnancies. And of those, about a
million end in a miscarriage, and over
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20,000 end in stillbirth. And some of
the worst consequences of everything
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that you've seen tonight have fallen on
women like Cherry Mason, who tested
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positive for drugs at the hospital after
a stillbirth.
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She wound up taking a plea deal for
manslaughter as a result, not because
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she thought she was guilty, but because,
in her words, I knew the way that it
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works here in Oklahoma.
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She not only got a 12-year prison
sentence, which took her away from her
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other children, She was also required to
register with the state as a violent
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offender upon her release. And the whole
situation is summed up by her daughter
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pretty nicely.
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They want to help people with addiction.
I think they just want to make the
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people with addiction go away.
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Yeah, that is fucking awful.
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And honestly, if that had happened to my
mom, I think I'd also have smoked one
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K2's worth of cigarettes.
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And look, those who push fetal persons
will insist that it's based on a
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principled stance about the sanctity of
life from the moment of conception.
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But there was an interesting moment two
years ago that exposed a bit of a crack
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in that argument, and it concerned this
bizarre news story out of Alabama.
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This morning, a first of its kind
decision by the Alabama Supreme Court
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that could put families' access to
fertility treatments in the post-Roe era
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at risk.
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The court determining frozen embryos
qualify as people under its state law,
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ruling unborn children are children
without exception based on developmental
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stage. The chief justice, in a
concurring opinion, quoting the Bible,
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citing the sanctity of unborn life.
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The case in question involved a patient
who managed to access the freezer
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storing frozen embryos at an Alabama
fertility clinic.
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The patient picked up multiple embryos
and mistakenly dropped and destroyed
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them. The state's high court says that
patient can now be held liable in a
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wrongful death lawsuit.
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Okay, setting aside the weird Mr. Bean
antics of that person walking into a
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freezer and juggling frozen embryos for
some reason, that might actually be a
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pretty useful logic test, because I
would argue anything that you can
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accidentally spill just isn't a person
yet.
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That ruling was following the fetal
personhood argument to its logical
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conclusion, because if...
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Every fertilised egg is a person. That
would mean that every IVF clinic, which
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need to produce a lot of embryos to
ensure success, probably then needs to
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be shut down, as they wouldn't just be
storing extra embryos to maximise the
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chance of successful implantation. Under
that logic, they'd essentially be
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warehouses where human beings regularly
die. And we frankly don't need any more
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of those, given that Amazon has got that
beat nicely covered for us.
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But in the wake of that ruling, there
was intent public outcry. And Alabama
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suddenly rushed through a law aimed at
protecting patients and providers from
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legal liability when embryos are damaged
or destroyed during IVF. And I've got to
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say, it is pretty telling that many of
the often men pushing for fetal
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personhood are completely unable to
defend that double standard. In fact,
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just watch Senator Tommy Tuberville
pictured here in natural poses that
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scream, I've touched footballs.
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Get asked about that judge's ruling
right after it happened.
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Do you have a reaction to the Alabama
Supreme Court ruling on the fact that
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embryos are children?
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Yeah, I was all for it. We need to have
more kids. We need to have an
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opportunity to do that. And I thought
this was the right thing to do.
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IVF is used to have more children. And
right now, IVF services are paused at
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some of the clinics in Alabama. Aren't
you concerned that this could impact
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people who are trying to have kids?
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Well, that's for another conversation.
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People need to have that. We need more
kids. We need the people to have the
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opportunity to have kids.
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Well, that's a hard one. It really is.
It's really hard.
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Because, again, you want people to have
that opportunity.
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And that's why I was telling her, we
need more kids.
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Okay, okay, enough.
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Can we please agree? No more laws about
women's bodies made by men who've at
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some point definitely Googled, when girl
put in tampon, why not cum?
412
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:35,970
Look, whatever the rhetoric used to
justify fetal personhood, in practice,
413
00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:40,350
it effectively treats women as
incubators. As that piss lawyer from
414
00:27:40,350 --> 00:27:45,150
before, complimentary by the way, points
out, they're effectively stripping women
415
00:27:45,150 --> 00:27:46,590
of their rights and autonomy.
416
00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:49,310
There is no way.
417
00:27:50,030 --> 00:27:54,250
to add fertilized eggs, embryos, and
fetuses to the Constitution without
418
00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:59,530
subtracting pregnant women. If we pass
laws that treat fertilized eggs,
419
00:27:59,570 --> 00:28:04,350
embryos, and fetuses as if they're
entirely separate, then women will also
420
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:08,390
be subjected to a permanent second-class
status.
421
00:28:09,090 --> 00:28:13,230
Exactly. Women would effectively be
second-class citizens, or as this
422
00:28:13,230 --> 00:28:14,870
arsehole likes to call them, hosts.
423
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,860
Though remember, he looked it up in
Webster's and apparently that makes it
424
00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:19,860
fine.
425
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,140
So what can be done here? Well, in some
states, legislators have introduced
426
00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:27,840
bills designed to highlight just how
stupid these laws are, like
427
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Mississippi's Contraception Begins at
Erection Act, which proposed...
428
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,320
imposing fines of up to $10,000 on those
who discharge genetic material without
429
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,580
the intent to fertilize an embryo, which
frankly means I'm about to owe a lot of
430
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:45,660
money because I've now seen this picture
and I need to do something about it. But
431
00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:51,880
look, much more serious solutions can
include states repealing or removing
432
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,130
fetal personhood language embedded in
state law, or at the very least, When
433
00:28:56,130 --> 00:29:00,090
they pass laws that recognise the loss
of a pregnancy, do so without punishing
434
00:29:00,090 --> 00:29:01,910
the person who was pregnant.
435
00:29:02,190 --> 00:29:06,010
We could also end secret drug tests in
hospitals, which, to their credit, some
436
00:29:06,010 --> 00:29:09,730
have done. At one in Connecticut,
doctors are now directed to test only if
437
00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:11,790
doing so will inform medical care.
438
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,940
And since that policy changed, it's
curbed unnecessary child welfare
439
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:19,660
reports, which dropped by almost 50%
without harming babies. In fact, since
440
00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:23,620
then, not a single baby came into the
hospital with uncontrolled withdrawal
441
00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:27,940
symptoms. And I know this story has been
bleak and very scary.
442
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,660
So if you are pregnant...
443
00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:32,840
and live somewhere where you're
vulnerable to the legal perils that
444
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,920
you've seen tonight. You should know
organisations like Pregnancy Justice and
445
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,620
If, When, How run legal helplines that
you can contact at these numbers. I hate
446
00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:43,240
that that is necessary, but we are where
we are.
447
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,460
And with any luck, we won't stay here
for long.
448
00:29:46,660 --> 00:29:51,580
Because look, even planned, relatively
low-risk pregnancies are obviously life
449
00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:55,880
and body-altering experiences. And it
does not seem radical to me to want to
450
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,160
be able to control your own life and
body throughout that experience.
451
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:04,960
And hopefully one day we'll be able to
finally get to a point where no one and
452
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:10,720
nothing, from idiot politicians to
fucking everything bagels, can take that
453
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600
from you. And now, this.
454
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,840
And now, these fan hosts have just one
request for their callers.
455
00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:24,480
There's only one thing we should be
concerned about right now, and I believe
456
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,320
that it is January the 6th.
457
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,120
Turn your TV down, Ted. You're already
on.
458
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,460
Wendy, you're going to have to turn down
your television.
459
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,840
Are you there?
460
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,080
I'm here. Okay, you're going to have to
turn down your TV real quick.
461
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:42,420
Hello?
462
00:30:42,580 --> 00:30:43,499
Yes,
463
00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:44,500
I'm here.
464
00:30:46,380 --> 00:30:47,380
I'm on the air, huh?
465
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,180
Yes, you're on the air, but you've got
to mute your TV and talk on the phone.
466
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,600
Oh, I'm sorry.
467
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,700
I just woke up to this, so give me like
a second. Let me turn this down.
468
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,560
Good morning. How are you?
469
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,760
Everybody good?
470
00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:00,200
Everybody's good. Go ahead, Ray.
471
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,640
I'm wanting to discuss the... Hey,
Leonard, I'm going to put you on hold
472
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,420
because you've got to turn down your
television. Go ahead, Jesse. You turn
473
00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:11,940
down your TV and talk through your
phone. And, Jeff, you've got to turn
474
00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:15,940
that TV down. And, Dan, it's best if you
turn your TV down. Hey, how are you
475
00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:16,439
doing today?
476
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,940
Doing well. Turn your TV down and just
go ahead with your comment. All right,
477
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,040
Helen, Helen, Helen, please turn down
the TV.
478
00:31:22,380 --> 00:31:23,600
Listen and talk through the phone.
479
00:31:26,639 --> 00:31:29,600
Okay. Randy, turn down your TV so we can
hear you, please.
480
00:31:31,060 --> 00:31:32,260
Okay. I'm sorry.
481
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:35,900
It's all right. I can't hear the
program. You guys keep cutting me off
482
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:36,900
from the program.
483
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:40,760
When you ask me to turn my TV down, I
hear the program.
484
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:44,140
What's your question or comment? And
then you can go ahead and turn your TV
485
00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:45,140
back up and listen.
486
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Okay. I'll give it when I get to the
person there.
487
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,200
It's not okay?
488
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,140
You're on with Thomas Honig. What's your
question?
489
00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:58,580
Oh, okay. I didn't know that was on the
program.
490
00:31:58,780 --> 00:31:59,780
Good morning, Greta.
491
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:06,440
I have a pet peeve. People, turn down
your TV sets when you come and talk. Why
492
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,040
do you think that you sound intelligent
if you can't turn down your TV?
493
00:32:12,260 --> 00:32:13,139
Moving on.
494
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:18,080
Before we go, a quick update about soap
operas. You may remember back in March
495
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,900
after discovering Stephen A. Smith.
496
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,100
I've been a character on General
Hospital for a decade. I offered myself
497
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:25,640
to any soap opera that would have me on
a few conditions.
498
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,540
One, I wanted to play a character with a
ridiculous name. Two, I wanted a juicy
499
00:32:29,540 --> 00:32:31,860
storyline. And three, I wanted to be
slapped.
500
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,040
Well, as I've mentioned, both General
Hospital and Days of Our Lives came
501
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,220
through with offers and both have now
aired. So, given that, my hot soap
502
00:32:40,220 --> 00:32:41,240
summer is now done.
503
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:45,600
I wanted to take a moment to let you
know exactly what happened. Let's start
504
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,640
with General Hospital, where I looked
like this. That's right.
505
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,640
I got to act while sporting hair that
looks like if L'Oreal sold a colour
506
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,160
called Midlife Crisis Black.
507
00:32:56,020 --> 00:33:00,240
And to General Hospital's credit, they
met all my requirements and more. First,
508
00:33:00,340 --> 00:33:04,180
my character got to arrive by
helicopter, flanked by a pair of armed
509
00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:09,480
goons. And I got to do a dramatic walk,
during which I bravely shot in the
510
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,200
general direction of a guy who was
already on the ground.
511
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,180
It's called being an action star, by the
way. Unless you're me or Vin Diesel, you
512
00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:18,180
really wouldn't understand.
513
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:21,870
And then in my next scene, I revealed my
true identity.
514
00:33:29,710 --> 00:33:31,650
Good morning, Agent Jax.
515
00:33:34,030 --> 00:33:35,450
Drew? I am indeed.
516
00:33:36,790 --> 00:33:38,350
You're the head of the WSB.
517
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:40,870
Feel free to call me Z.
518
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:43,290
Okay, what does Z stand for?
519
00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:45,750
It's my nom de guerre.
520
00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:48,050
Right.
521
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,980
Damn. I played Z, the head of an
international spy agency, but for some
522
00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:57,720
reason has agents in the fictional town
of Port Charles. And quick side note,
523
00:33:57,780 --> 00:34:00,720
you may remember, we only stumbled into
this because one of our writers' mothers
524
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,240
is obsessed with General Hospital. So
you'll be happy to know that when Connie
525
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,679
of Noonan, Georgia, saw my first
episode, she texted her daughter and I
526
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,480
quote, Very James Bond.
527
00:34:11,790 --> 00:34:15,090
Thank you, Connie, but you're actually
wrong. And to be honest, not for the
528
00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:18,429
first time either. Remember when you
grounded your daughter for stealing the
529
00:34:18,429 --> 00:34:21,510
cupcake tins that had gone missing in
your house? You were wrong then, too.
530
00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:25,610
She didn't steal those tins. She didn't
even touch them. It was probably her
531
00:34:25,610 --> 00:34:29,290
brother. And yet, she got the
punishment, and look at her now, using
532
00:34:29,290 --> 00:34:31,530
me to roast your ass for it on
television.
533
00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:36,290
So... So, general hospitals, I've
already met...
534
00:34:36,540 --> 00:34:40,000
Two of my conditions there. Stupid name,
juicy storyline. As for getting slapped,
535
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,280
well, they knocked that and me out of
the park, too, because it turns out that
536
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,659
agent's mother was not happy with me.
537
00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:50,179
I spent the whole night praying that she
was going to be okay, and I can't even
538
00:34:50,179 --> 00:34:53,280
get into her room to check on her
because your agents won't let me. At
539
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,179
oversight, I'll have your name added to
the list of approved visitors. I don't
540
00:34:56,179 --> 00:34:57,180
want to be added to the list.
541
00:34:57,420 --> 00:34:58,620
I want my daughter back.
542
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,580
Then let me put this in language that
you will understand.
543
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,540
That ain't gonna happen.
544
00:35:14,350 --> 00:35:19,670
slap, a dramatic close-up, and me doing
a voice so wrong it is genuinely
545
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:23,330
embarrassing. That was my honest attempt
at an American accent.
546
00:35:23,890 --> 00:35:27,910
I can't tell you why it's Southern. I
can only tell you I was trying my
547
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:32,090
hardest. And frankly, I could have died
happy after that. I got to have the shit
548
00:35:32,090 --> 00:35:36,550
slapped out of me after an iconic soap
actor screamed in my face, I want my
549
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:37,550
daughter back.
550
00:35:37,690 --> 00:35:42,570
What more could anyone ask for? And yet,
the soap gods smiled on me again.
551
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:46,220
Because this week, I also appeared on
Days of Our Lives in scenes alongside
552
00:35:46,220 --> 00:35:50,800
soap legends like Jack A. Harry and
Susan C. Forth-Hayes. And the Days of
553
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,660
Our Lives team met my demands in a whole
different way, because instead of being
554
00:35:54,660 --> 00:35:59,220
an international spy boss, they wrote me
a character a little more my speed.
555
00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:03,580
I'm Devlin St. John, Chief City Water
Inspector.
556
00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:11,040
I'm the only thing standing between this
town and a catastrophic plumbing
557
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,040
failure.
558
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,920
A literal sewage apocalypse.
559
00:36:14,740 --> 00:36:19,500
Yeah. They made me Salem's chief city
water inspector, which, let's be honest,
560
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,260
is perfect casting. If you were going to
bottle my essence and sell it as
561
00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:26,480
cologne, it would be called chief city
water inspector.
562
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,290
Now... As for the hair, I agree, it's
absolutely incredible.
563
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:36,270
It's been reported this week that it is
a wig I brought to set from home.
564
00:36:36,490 --> 00:36:40,390
And while it wasn't technically from
home, we did actually provide that wig,
565
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:43,970
and for good reason. I've seen myself
act. I knew the hair was going to have
566
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:45,470
to do 90% of the work.
567
00:36:46,210 --> 00:36:49,670
I'll be honest, I was going for a
healthy John Stamos look, but instead,
568
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:53,110
it appears I ended up looking more like
Tina from Bob's Burgers.
569
00:36:53,570 --> 00:36:58,170
And if you're wondering whether I got
slapped on Days of Our Lives, not only.
570
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,780
was I slapped by a man wearing elegant
silk pyjamas. I also got to slap him,
571
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:08,620
which felt utterly incredible. But wait,
I was also stabbed with a syringe, and
572
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:13,120
not once, not even twice, but three
different times.
573
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:16,000
And if that wasn't enough, this happened
too.
574
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,240
You're right not to trust me. What?
575
00:37:19,980 --> 00:37:21,140
Oh, not again.
576
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,020
Please, no, I don't want to...
577
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:33,320
you not entertained watching that makes
me feel the way i assume matt damon felt
578
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,200
after seeing the first cut of the oddity
both proud and impressed that my body
579
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,860
could even do that which again you
wouldn't understand you're not an action
580
00:37:40,860 --> 00:37:45,680
star like i am now and look i wish i
could take full credit for what a feast
581
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,720
that clip is but it's all thanks to the
days of our lives team i only demanded
582
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:53,410
to be slapped I didn't say anything
about being tased, but even I admit,
583
00:37:53,590 --> 00:37:56,730
it's pretty cathartic to see me
incapacitated to the point of silence.
584
00:37:56,950 --> 00:38:00,370
And look, I won't get into all the
twists and turns that my character got
585
00:38:00,370 --> 00:38:03,590
into, but in my final scene, I got a
hell of a send-off.
586
00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:06,630
You're a breath of fresh air, Mr St
John.
587
00:38:08,010 --> 00:38:14,270
You remind me of that man on television
who calls himself a comedian, but mostly
588
00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:15,990
just shouts the news.
589
00:38:16,730 --> 00:38:22,270
At a speed no human can understand it. I
just wish we would have met under
590
00:38:22,270 --> 00:38:23,330
different circumstances.
591
00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:34,150
Good night, sweet prince.
592
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,480
Hygienically frozen.
593
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Meaning technically, I could always come
back. In fact, neither show ended up
594
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,740
killing me off, though to be honest,
that doesn't necessarily mean anything
595
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:02,660
anyway. In soap operas, no one ever
really dies.
596
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,380
So a massive thank you to everyone at
both General Hospital and Days of Our
597
00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:11,420
Lives for welcoming me into your worlds
and making my soap opera dreams come
598
00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:13,040
true. I wish...
599
00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:17,870
I could say that being surrounded by so
many talented professionals has made me
600
00:39:17,870 --> 00:39:23,450
a better actor. But I think deep down,
we all know that ain't gonna happen.
601
00:39:24,490 --> 00:39:26,990
That ain't gonna happen.
602
00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:31,890
That is our show. Thank you so much for
watching. We'll see you next week. Good
603
00:39:31,890 --> 00:39:34,430
night. That ain't gonna happen.
604
00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:36,410
It ain't gonna happen.
605
00:39:50,779 --> 00:39:51,779
Everything's gonna be okay.
606
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,840
I'm here to help.
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