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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,327 --> 00:00:04,364 The true spirit of an individual whose talent influences history 2 00:00:04,447 --> 00:00:06,039 often remains unexplained. 3 00:00:06,127 --> 00:00:08,721 The exceptionality of their legacy goes hand in hand with 4 00:00:08,807 --> 00:00:11,196 the ways they differ from ordinary mortals. 5 00:00:11,287 --> 00:00:14,836 Often in direct contact we don't understand them despite the fact 6 00:00:14,927 --> 00:00:16,997 they have entertained millions of people. 7 00:00:17,087 --> 00:00:18,440 This film is my personal view 8 00:00:18,527 --> 00:00:21,917 into the spirit of a revolutionary photographer and remarkable person. 9 00:00:22,007 --> 00:00:25,044 Although it's perhaps only one view out of a thousand 10 00:00:25,127 --> 00:00:26,845 it made sense to try. 11 00:00:33,727 --> 00:00:36,366 present 12 00:00:57,487 --> 00:01:00,604 A SOMEWHAT TRUTHFUL Fl LM by Adolf Zika 13 00:01:52,207 --> 00:01:56,803 When the war ended we returned through a ruined land 14 00:01:56,887 --> 00:02:02,678 from an odd children's camp in Poland where we were without our parents. 15 00:02:02,967 --> 00:02:08,439 On our way we saw terrible things and it seemed endlessly long. 16 00:02:09,007 --> 00:02:13,239 l thought they would shoot both my brother and me. 17 00:02:13,407 --> 00:02:16,558 l wondered if it would hurt. 18 00:02:16,647 --> 00:02:21,721 l remember how our soldiers burned some German soldier to death. 19 00:02:21,887 --> 00:02:26,119 They hung him by his legs on a post and poured gasoline over him . 20 00:02:26,527 --> 00:02:29,246 He shouted: "Mutti, Mutti!" 21 00:02:36,007 --> 00:02:38,840 But soon after that the sun came out 22 00:02:38,927 --> 00:02:43,523 and l saw something that perhaps l wasn't supposed to see so soon. 23 00:02:58,647 --> 00:03:04,677 TRAPPED B Y HlS PASSlONS, NO HOPE FOR RESCUE 24 00:03:06,967 --> 00:03:09,037 "Genius or czar?" 25 00:03:09,127 --> 00:03:11,595 "Saudek still shocks" 26 00:03:11,687 --> 00:03:13,200 "Saudek's last show" 27 00:03:13,287 --> 00:03:14,800 "Farewell Jan" 28 00:03:16,007 --> 00:03:18,282 "Saudek provocateur..." 29 00:03:36,847 --> 00:03:41,398 Some jerk grabbed the Minister of Culture at the Old Town Square 30 00:03:41,487 --> 00:03:45,366 to lure him to the National Gallery. He said: "No, l want to see Saudek." 31 00:03:45,447 --> 00:03:48,564 And he replied: "But that's pornography!" 32 00:03:48,807 --> 00:03:54,279 That's simplistic. Why does it sell for thousands of dollars 33 00:03:54,367 --> 00:03:58,042 if you can buy a porno magazine or a movie for ten dollars? 34 00:03:58,247 --> 00:04:03,640 Once l asked a factory workgirl whom l was more than working with 35 00:04:03,727 --> 00:04:08,278 what art was and she said: "Art is nonsense." 36 00:04:08,487 --> 00:04:12,844 That's a beautiful definition. Let's stick to it. 37 00:04:12,927 --> 00:04:15,122 l support the triumph of common sense. 38 00:05:10,727 --> 00:05:13,844 That's urine from my ill female camel. 39 00:05:15,087 --> 00:05:17,999 l raise my cup of Georgian wine to your health, Stalin. 40 00:05:18,087 --> 00:05:20,237 Jan Saudek's studio under the Zizkov TV tower 41 00:05:23,687 --> 00:05:25,598 That's the real cocktail. 42 00:05:27,087 --> 00:05:31,160 -Jan, my entire body. . . -Yes, l love all of you. 43 00:05:31,327 --> 00:05:32,760 -Wait. -Okay? 44 00:05:32,847 --> 00:05:38,683 l love and when l love l let the melons fall off the vine. 45 00:05:39,247 --> 00:05:42,239 l've always been like that. lt's about time. 46 00:05:42,327 --> 00:05:46,240 Young ladies, l have this plan and want to make this photograph... 47 00:05:46,567 --> 00:05:51,766 You will stand over me and pour on me this sacramental wine 48 00:05:51,847 --> 00:05:54,407 which l stole from a church, from the sacristy. 49 00:05:54,487 --> 00:05:58,719 l'd love to be in bliss for a moment. Oh, that's it. 50 00:06:46,127 --> 00:06:50,803 Jan, what was your childhood like? Applauded by everyone? 51 00:06:50,887 --> 00:06:56,757 There wasn't any applause at all. lt was the worst time of my life. 52 00:06:57,247 --> 00:07:00,876 My youth wasn't much better but l'd rather forget my childhood 53 00:07:00,967 --> 00:07:08,442 because people delude themselves that this period of impotence, 54 00:07:09,327 --> 00:07:14,526 dependence and humiliation was something beautiful. lt wasn't. 55 00:07:15,367 --> 00:07:18,518 But the saddest thing is that already as a child, 56 00:07:18,607 --> 00:07:21,326 l remember it exactly, already as an eight year old 57 00:07:21,407 --> 00:07:28,040 l desperately longed for a woman's crotch and l still do. 58 00:07:28,247 --> 00:07:32,081 But back then it was not possible to fulfill this desire 59 00:07:32,647 --> 00:07:39,439 which was stronger than the war's chaos or so-called pals' bad deeds. 60 00:07:40,407 --> 00:07:44,719 l looked very infantile and no woman or girl would, 61 00:07:45,687 --> 00:07:48,724 also for my innate shyness, want to accommodate me. 62 00:07:49,207 --> 00:07:58,115 l remember as the war was ending we saw the Russian army advance. 63 00:07:59,767 --> 00:08:04,045 They lie about it today. Nobody wore a helmet on their head. 64 00:08:04,127 --> 00:08:08,166 Everyone was drunk, even the German kids defending the Reich. 65 00:08:11,287 --> 00:08:16,600 The only difference was Russians drank vodka and Germans schnapps. 66 00:08:17,087 --> 00:08:23,162 But otherwise it was professionals against kids, at least in the end 67 00:08:23,247 --> 00:08:28,082 and there were many fallen ones. l haven't seen so many dead since. 68 00:08:36,247 --> 00:08:38,078 Where did you spend the war? 69 00:08:38,167 --> 00:08:43,764 l n Prague but the last of it l spent in a small children's camp... 70 00:08:44,127 --> 00:08:50,760 in Poland. There were kids from the Bohemian and Moravian Protectorate 71 00:08:50,847 --> 00:08:56,558 selected for medical experiments by that perverted Dr. Mengele. 72 00:08:56,647 --> 00:09:02,483 The peculiar thing and what would be perfect for making it into a movie 73 00:09:02,567 --> 00:09:04,876 was that all those kids were twins. 74 00:09:04,967 --> 00:09:08,721 Now l realize that there weren't any triplets or singles. 75 00:09:08,807 --> 00:09:11,844 That's bizarre and it would make a very nice detail. 76 00:09:12,447 --> 00:09:14,119 Where were your parents? 77 00:09:14,207 --> 00:09:20,476 Our father was with his last brother who after the war died of typhus, 78 00:09:20,567 --> 00:09:23,445 in Theresienstadt, in the Small Fortress prison, 79 00:09:23,527 --> 00:09:28,442 and our mother struggled somewhere in the country at her relatives. 80 00:09:53,527 --> 00:09:57,998 My relationship with my brother? No doubt the biggest love of my life. 81 00:09:58,087 --> 00:10:03,639 lt can't be compared to love for women and children, 82 00:10:03,727 --> 00:10:08,437 some of my children. lt can't be compared. lt was an absolute love, 83 00:10:08,527 --> 00:10:11,325 crystal clear, exceptionally strong. 84 00:10:11,407 --> 00:10:16,765 My brother was more famous, more talented with an athlete's willpower. 85 00:10:16,847 --> 00:10:19,998 -He was better in every way. -Did you inspire each other? 86 00:10:20,087 --> 00:10:26,356 Very much so. Since we were kids we communicated in our own gibberish, 87 00:10:26,447 --> 00:10:28,915 incomprehensible to others. 88 00:10:29,327 --> 00:10:36,483 lt went on for a long time, ending when we both got married of course. 89 00:10:37,927 --> 00:10:42,717 Women are behind everything, the women split us up. 90 00:10:43,527 --> 00:10:48,078 lt's a constant question whether at a crossroads 91 00:10:48,167 --> 00:10:52,877 we should choose to follow one way and not try two or more ways. 92 00:10:53,407 --> 00:10:56,205 Running in all directions leads to staggering. 93 00:10:56,287 --> 00:10:59,882 He should have made a choice because he was a talented artist. 94 00:10:59,967 --> 00:11:03,243 He should have chosen his work and sacrificed the family 95 00:11:03,327 --> 00:11:06,364 just like l did and l don't regret it. 96 00:11:06,727 --> 00:11:11,039 Yes, it costs some sacrifice but l haven't made any 97 00:11:11,287 --> 00:11:13,847 and l don't like to say it, it's nothing nice, 98 00:11:13,927 --> 00:11:17,203 l have disposed of some burdens along the way, 99 00:11:18,087 --> 00:11:24,526 which helped me to achieve that little something in life. 100 00:11:24,687 --> 00:11:26,837 For me he is living proof 101 00:11:26,927 --> 00:11:31,955 that love is not everlasting and that the energy goes elsewhere, 102 00:11:32,047 --> 00:11:35,357 it gets out of hand and then we have nothing left. 103 00:11:36,247 --> 00:11:39,319 Only the burnt place remains. 104 00:11:40,767 --> 00:11:43,281 -What is it? -That's my brother. 105 00:11:43,487 --> 00:11:46,559 l had him secretly preserved. You are not allowed to do that. 106 00:11:46,647 --> 00:11:50,720 l left the rest of the bones in so it looks like he was beheaded, 107 00:11:50,807 --> 00:11:53,526 well, he has lost his head quite often. 108 00:11:54,447 --> 00:11:57,325 He lost it for good. 109 00:11:59,407 --> 00:12:04,197 This is Yorick, Hamlet's tutor. 110 00:12:07,487 --> 00:12:10,445 Oh, brother, l can't be with you now. 111 00:12:10,527 --> 00:12:16,318 l want to remember you forever as a beautiful boy with black hair. 112 00:12:16,407 --> 00:12:18,477 You're so much better than l am. 113 00:12:19,527 --> 00:12:22,519 Now that you are leaving 114 00:12:22,607 --> 00:12:25,485 you have changed so dreadfully 115 00:12:26,127 --> 00:12:30,643 l can't come to you. We will see each other again some day. 116 00:12:44,167 --> 00:12:46,965 Jan Saudek's apartment in a concrete building in Zizkov 117 00:12:47,047 --> 00:12:48,685 -Hello. -Where is everybody? 118 00:12:48,767 --> 00:12:52,123 They will be here soon. Only the guys are here. l came early. 119 00:12:52,207 --> 00:12:55,404 -Here... -A concrete building 120 00:12:55,487 --> 00:12:59,036 from the 80s, but at least you have a new elevator. 121 00:12:59,127 --> 00:13:02,836 -Brand new. -lt's nice. -New and incredibly slow. 122 00:13:03,287 --> 00:13:08,407 l can assure you that l can run much faster than the elevator. 123 00:13:08,487 --> 00:13:12,446 -Up the stairs. -l do it often and get no praise. 124 00:13:12,567 --> 00:13:16,958 -You have a botanical garden here. -l'm a botanist. -lt's beautiful. 125 00:13:17,047 --> 00:13:21,677 Let me lock the door behind us because somebody could... 126 00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:25,077 -lt's a bit like a wild forest here. -. . .break in here. 127 00:13:25,247 --> 00:13:30,685 -And the parrots, where are they? -The parrots are only a recording. 128 00:13:31,007 --> 00:13:33,965 There is one over there. l see one. 129 00:13:34,047 --> 00:13:36,242 This is where you paint, in the hallway? 130 00:13:36,327 --> 00:13:41,401 Yes, l paint outside and live here. 131 00:13:42,927 --> 00:13:47,125 This is my mare. She was drowning in a bathtub, this lady. 132 00:13:47,727 --> 00:13:51,845 She slipped, passed out and went under the surface. 133 00:13:58,767 --> 00:14:03,921 -When did you start colorizing? -ln 1 948. 134 00:14:04,287 --> 00:14:07,643 -ln 1 948 you first colorized a photo? -Yes. 135 00:14:07,727 --> 00:14:14,644 But l didn't know the pictures must be a sepia tone, brown. 136 00:14:15,247 --> 00:14:22,085 First you bleach out the picture then stain it with sodium sulphide, 137 00:14:22,847 --> 00:14:25,998 which has been done for 1 50 years. 138 00:14:26,087 --> 00:14:29,523 but then you must air out the entire house for hours 139 00:14:29,607 --> 00:14:32,838 because great doses of hydrogen sulphide are released 140 00:14:32,927 --> 00:14:34,963 which is supposedly unhealthy. 141 00:14:35,047 --> 00:14:37,686 But if l should care about what's unhealthy... 142 00:14:39,287 --> 00:14:44,042 l would think it'd take much longer to make the original picture. 143 00:14:45,407 --> 00:14:48,160 Okay, my sweethearts, let's break. 144 00:14:48,887 --> 00:14:51,162 G'bye, girls. 145 00:14:51,847 --> 00:14:54,281 Johana Saudkova - Kaja Saudek's wife 146 00:14:54,367 --> 00:14:59,236 Jan's first wife went to school with Kaja and was in love with him . 147 00:14:59,327 --> 00:15:05,197 Kaja had this habit of passing all the ladies he met over to Jan. 148 00:15:05,487 --> 00:15:09,241 And Jan immediately moved in with Marie and married her. 149 00:15:09,327 --> 00:15:14,606 Jan wanted to have a home base, a family, yet he also wanted fun. 150 00:15:14,687 --> 00:15:19,078 On the other hand Kaja didn't want to have a family, he wanted freedom . 151 00:15:19,247 --> 00:15:22,239 Samuel Saudek - Jan Saudek's oldest son 152 00:15:22,327 --> 00:15:27,242 My father is a mid-century man and back then - 153 00:15:28,247 --> 00:15:33,002 perhaps for the lack of other kinds of diversion - it was a gallant duty 154 00:15:33,087 --> 00:15:37,638 to satisfy every woman who showed some interest. 155 00:15:39,127 --> 00:15:43,484 l n the context of the present day everything is a bit different. 156 00:15:43,687 --> 00:15:49,922 Did you believe it could be a stable and perfect marriage? 157 00:15:50,007 --> 00:15:54,364 l believed it for a couple of weeks until l started to cheat on my wife. 158 00:15:54,447 --> 00:15:59,726 Of course when she eventually found out after a couple of years, 159 00:15:59,807 --> 00:16:05,325 she punished me in the right way, she banished me, impoverished me 160 00:16:05,407 --> 00:16:08,797 but she did the right thing because any woman would do that 161 00:16:08,887 --> 00:16:13,961 and l should have learned from it and not gotten into another liaison. 162 00:16:14,007 --> 00:16:18,956 But l did it again and l will keep doing it until my time is up. 163 00:17:27,127 --> 00:17:30,244 Jan Saudek returns on the day of his 72nd birthday 164 00:17:30,327 --> 00:17:32,761 to the place of his first exhibition 165 00:17:32,847 --> 00:17:36,283 in the legendary Theater on the Balustrade in 1 964. 166 00:17:40,927 --> 00:17:44,397 Please switch off your mobile phones. 167 00:18:03,807 --> 00:18:06,275 Ladies and gentlemen, Jan Saudek. 168 00:18:11,127 --> 00:18:15,120 Hello. l've always dreamt of you taking my picture. 169 00:18:15,207 --> 00:18:19,120 -Why haven't you come? -l didn't know how to do it. 170 00:18:19,207 --> 00:18:22,324 -Are you from Prague? -l am. Can we arrange something? 171 00:18:22,407 --> 00:18:27,765 lt's a deal. Are you free today? 172 00:18:27,847 --> 00:18:34,446 -l will always make time for you. -That says it all. Wait a second. 173 00:18:36,127 --> 00:18:38,277 What do you drink? 174 00:18:39,447 --> 00:18:41,802 l don't really drink but l will with you. 175 00:18:41,887 --> 00:18:45,197 Well, l drink too much. So you will be sober and l will drink. 176 00:18:45,287 --> 00:18:47,403 That says it all. One more question. 177 00:18:47,487 --> 00:18:50,047 Let's have one more question before intermission. 178 00:18:50,127 --> 00:18:53,756 Hello, l am also free this afternoon. 179 00:18:54,647 --> 00:18:57,002 -Me too! -You too? 180 00:18:57,487 --> 00:18:59,796 Then let's have a foursome. 181 00:18:59,887 --> 00:19:03,846 Do you know how many legitimate and illegitimate children you have? 182 00:19:04,807 --> 00:19:09,005 Four are legitimate and the rest, you count them . 183 00:19:09,087 --> 00:19:13,524 Four are illegitimate. l like the last one. l don't know if it's here. 184 00:19:13,607 --> 00:19:16,440 lt's in the back, sitting, lying, sleeping, drinking. 185 00:19:16,527 --> 00:19:20,600 Lying and sleeping, l'll do the same soon too. l'll drop on my ear. 186 00:19:20,687 --> 00:19:26,159 lf only one woman should remain in the world who would it be? 187 00:19:26,687 --> 00:19:29,406 That's a very serious thing. 188 00:19:29,567 --> 00:19:34,436 l'd like it to be my last daughter who served a term in jail. 189 00:19:34,527 --> 00:19:40,477 She's a good girl now, has two kids, healthy, expecting a third. 190 00:19:40,687 --> 00:19:44,885 lt might be a girl. So l would let her survive 191 00:19:44,967 --> 00:19:52,806 because she would bring another child into a new world, hopefully a girl. 192 00:19:53,167 --> 00:19:57,797 l can make boys, but girls are much harder to make. 193 00:19:57,887 --> 00:20:01,675 Mr. Saudek, do you still steal your grandsons' girlfriends? 194 00:20:01,767 --> 00:20:05,646 What do you mean steal? Nobody can have a woman. 195 00:20:05,727 --> 00:20:09,766 She is so free and intangible that "to have a woman" is nonsense. 196 00:20:09,847 --> 00:20:15,205 l was allowed to look up to her pedestal, that's better put, 197 00:20:15,287 --> 00:20:18,404 but l didn't have anything. People ask me: 198 00:20:18,487 --> 00:20:20,921 "Listen, Jan, you're such a womanizer" - 199 00:20:21,007 --> 00:20:24,443 l live in Zizkov - "How many tramps have you had?" l count: 200 00:20:24,527 --> 00:20:30,523 "One, two, three, four, about five hundred." 201 00:20:33,087 --> 00:20:36,557 Did you become a puppet in the hands of ardent Miss Sara? 202 00:20:36,647 --> 00:20:43,086 l'm a toy in the hands of a widow. Widow after me. 203 00:20:44,487 --> 00:20:50,278 l'm broke again, no cars, no phone, nothing, 204 00:20:50,367 --> 00:20:53,996 but l have saved my bare life and hairy bottom. 205 00:20:54,087 --> 00:20:57,796 Your photographs are morbid and trashy, they're terrible, 206 00:20:57,887 --> 00:21:02,358 but at one time you made some nice pictures that still get published. 207 00:21:02,447 --> 00:21:06,804 Do you play on people's libido for commercial reasons or for depravity? 208 00:21:07,967 --> 00:21:13,485 l've been depraved from the start but l don't sell the pictures. 209 00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:18,595 You should blame Saudek.com. l don't even have the negatives. 210 00:21:18,687 --> 00:21:24,398 Now l make new things that will never reach my youth's excellence, 211 00:21:24,687 --> 00:21:29,283 just like l will never run as fast as l did when l was young. 212 00:21:29,487 --> 00:21:34,436 That's the exact classification. They're trashy and depraved, 213 00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:38,759 but for some reason people want bad things. 214 00:21:38,847 --> 00:21:45,446 l n some discussion l heard that you promote ugliness and skepticism . 215 00:21:45,527 --> 00:21:50,123 -Oh, that makes me sad. -You've pretty much answered it 216 00:21:50,207 --> 00:21:57,602 but l'm still interested in knowing what you think about this opinion. 217 00:21:59,167 --> 00:22:04,605 A person can never be really ugly unless he gives up. 218 00:22:04,687 --> 00:22:12,799 l truly believe that l portray people with respect, admiration and humility. 219 00:22:13,367 --> 00:22:19,886 l would never release a photograph that portrays us in our misery, 220 00:22:19,967 --> 00:22:25,485 in humiliation or as truly perverted. 221 00:22:25,967 --> 00:22:29,880 Violence is... strange to me. 222 00:22:53,247 --> 00:22:56,080 After the appearance in the theater Jan went silent 223 00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:58,635 and didn't communicate for more than a month. 224 00:22:58,727 --> 00:23:01,605 Eventually he contacted the director via a short letter 225 00:23:01,687 --> 00:23:03,439 and decided to continue shooting. 226 00:23:26,367 --> 00:23:29,484 Jan? Jan? 227 00:23:32,847 --> 00:23:35,725 -Yes, yes, yes. -Jan, are you here? -Here. 228 00:23:35,807 --> 00:23:38,526 Jan Saudek's summer residence in Mokrovraty 229 00:23:38,607 --> 00:23:41,041 -l'm here. -Look at you. 230 00:23:41,127 --> 00:23:43,561 -After a month. -Man! -Hello. 231 00:23:43,887 --> 00:23:46,242 How are you? ls everything all right? 232 00:23:46,327 --> 00:23:49,763 Oh yeah, l forget fast. At my age l can easily do that. 233 00:23:49,847 --> 00:23:51,803 You sure gave us a hard time. 234 00:23:51,887 --> 00:23:55,596 -All is forgotten. Come in. -Thank you. 235 00:23:58,967 --> 00:24:03,404 l've thought about it a lot whether my pictures 236 00:24:03,487 --> 00:24:07,321 praise or glorify repulsiveness and ugliness 237 00:24:07,407 --> 00:24:10,843 but l don't see people that way. l look at them with respect 238 00:24:10,927 --> 00:24:15,318 and l try to portray them that way. And if somebody sees it differently 239 00:24:15,407 --> 00:24:19,161 then the ugliness is in his eye 240 00:24:19,247 --> 00:24:24,037 just like beauty is in the eye of those who see it. 241 00:24:24,207 --> 00:24:30,555 lf the photographs that say everything about me are not enough 242 00:24:30,647 --> 00:24:33,798 then l myself am uninteresting and unimportant. 243 00:24:33,887 --> 00:24:37,357 What was the most difficult period of your life? 244 00:24:40,047 --> 00:24:44,245 l felt the worst, to my surprise, 245 00:24:44,327 --> 00:24:53,156 during those seven years after 1 970 living in a cellar. That was bad. 246 00:24:54,207 --> 00:24:58,166 l even starved sometimes, not fatally 247 00:24:58,247 --> 00:25:03,605 but often l had nothing but bread and cheap marmalade. 248 00:25:03,687 --> 00:25:09,284 But l learned a lot from it. lt was a time of poverty, 249 00:25:09,367 --> 00:25:14,919 which always stimulates a person to get out of that situation 250 00:25:15,007 --> 00:25:17,202 which l have done. 251 00:25:17,287 --> 00:25:22,486 -You didn't make money from photos? -No. Maybe others did. 252 00:25:22,567 --> 00:25:27,357 Abroad they sold bootleg copies of my cards and posters, but not me. 253 00:25:27,447 --> 00:25:29,403 Not yet. 254 00:25:29,927 --> 00:25:37,038 You said that in life you had to give up many things, 255 00:25:37,127 --> 00:25:41,166 many relationships in order to achieve what you've achieved 256 00:25:41,247 --> 00:25:44,478 and to get where you are today. 257 00:25:44,567 --> 00:25:47,206 What was the most difficult? 258 00:25:47,607 --> 00:25:53,000 Most of all l missed the children that were taken away from me 259 00:25:53,087 --> 00:25:56,636 as a punishment for my bad behavior. That's nothing unusual. 260 00:25:57,367 --> 00:26:02,521 lt happened to me just like it happens to other adulterers. 261 00:26:02,607 --> 00:26:06,236 l missed my children very much. That scarred me badly 262 00:26:06,327 --> 00:26:12,357 and if l have any more children, l'll be with them as long as l can 263 00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:14,642 so l won't have to cry for them. 264 00:26:54,247 --> 00:26:57,239 Matej Saudek - Jan Saudek's youngest son 265 00:26:57,327 --> 00:27:00,683 -ln a melodic counterpoint. -Wow. 266 00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:04,085 -ln a melodic counterpoint. -You are really good. 267 00:27:04,167 --> 00:27:06,203 -Don't make fun of me. -No, really. 268 00:27:16,607 --> 00:27:23,877 My reluctance to appear in public grows bigger and stronger. 269 00:27:25,087 --> 00:27:28,284 l'm more and more timid, 270 00:27:28,647 --> 00:27:32,640 l'm frightened by the company of people, 271 00:27:32,887 --> 00:27:37,517 l'm worried about being ridiculed and perhaps beaten too. 272 00:27:38,727 --> 00:27:41,241 Once l saw a movie 273 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:46,765 where a lonely seagull fed on a dump site. 274 00:27:46,847 --> 00:27:49,315 l was deeply touched by it. 275 00:27:50,247 --> 00:27:56,038 l consider myself to be a lonely wanderer 276 00:27:56,407 --> 00:28:00,878 who shouldn't bother people with his existence. 277 00:28:20,567 --> 00:28:26,483 l was wondering if you've ever tried to open up to someone completely. 278 00:28:26,567 --> 00:28:28,478 To everybody. 279 00:28:29,727 --> 00:28:35,802 Yes, l feel that as l grow older l am more and more honest. 280 00:28:35,887 --> 00:28:39,004 l try to tell the truth to everyone. 281 00:28:39,087 --> 00:28:42,682 To women that l love them which is very honest. 282 00:28:42,767 --> 00:28:45,998 l've already done that a few times this week. . . 283 00:28:46,087 --> 00:28:50,683 By saying the word so many times, you downgrade it. 284 00:28:50,767 --> 00:28:54,043 . . .in that moment l really love them , 285 00:28:54,127 --> 00:28:57,085 in that moment l am eager, impressed and captivated. 286 00:28:57,167 --> 00:29:00,125 Do you realize that sometimes you are quite cruel? 287 00:29:00,207 --> 00:29:02,243 Yes. 288 00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:06,200 -You don't mind? -l do. 289 00:29:06,287 --> 00:29:11,156 l asked where the line is, or where a taboo begins. . . 290 00:29:11,247 --> 00:29:15,399 ls a line drawn at family? 291 00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:19,605 -Not at family but... -With family members? 292 00:29:19,687 --> 00:29:25,205 l remember when l was very young l hugged my brother. 293 00:29:25,287 --> 00:29:28,006 lt wouldn't be so bad. 294 00:29:28,087 --> 00:29:32,478 l'm trying to drive at your kids, if that's where the line is. 295 00:29:32,567 --> 00:29:35,365 lf l fell in love with one of my children 296 00:29:35,447 --> 00:29:38,245 and the child without being forced 297 00:29:38,327 --> 00:29:41,763 would be willing to make love to me, l'd do it. 298 00:29:41,847 --> 00:29:43,997 ls that a good enough answer? 299 00:29:44,087 --> 00:29:46,681 -Sure. -Consider it done. 300 00:29:51,647 --> 00:29:54,719 Now they won't be able to capture the sound, huh? 301 00:29:54,927 --> 00:29:59,205 -Are you attracted to male beauty? -Of course. 302 00:29:59,407 --> 00:30:02,001 Do you think it's natural for artists? 303 00:30:02,207 --> 00:30:05,358 lt's natural for everyone but we don't want to admit it. 304 00:30:06,527 --> 00:30:10,315 Have you ever felt when you saw a beautiful male body 305 00:30:10,407 --> 00:30:13,319 that you wanted to touch it just like a woman's body? 306 00:30:13,407 --> 00:30:16,683 Hold on, it's not a beautiful male body that attracts me. 307 00:30:16,767 --> 00:30:19,725 The body doesn't need to be beautiful, 308 00:30:19,807 --> 00:30:22,241 meaning muscular and slim. 309 00:30:22,327 --> 00:30:26,479 We are led by the smell and in that sense 310 00:30:26,567 --> 00:30:32,961 l let myself be attracted to and have been attracted to male beauty. 311 00:30:34,967 --> 00:30:37,879 -Have you been with a man? -Of course. 312 00:30:38,367 --> 00:30:44,237 lt was sometime in the 70s or 80s, "Pornographer" photography... 313 00:30:45,207 --> 00:30:51,885 l photographed a soft porn with a self timer 314 00:30:52,087 --> 00:30:54,965 because it was the high time for me to try it. 315 00:30:55,047 --> 00:30:59,518 And then, when l was seventy, l photographed hard porn 316 00:30:59,607 --> 00:31:04,237 with a self timer too. lt's explicit, if l could use that word, 317 00:31:04,327 --> 00:31:06,318 you can see everything. 318 00:31:06,887 --> 00:31:10,516 Arm in a sleeve, cock in the nest. 319 00:31:13,487 --> 00:31:20,199 Do you remember the day when Sara first showed up in your life? 320 00:31:22,527 --> 00:31:25,325 l remember it very well. 321 00:31:25,487 --> 00:31:30,720 Since the very first moment she seemed to me incredibly beautiful. 322 00:31:30,887 --> 00:31:36,166 Even though the security force was supposedly dispersed, l thought 323 00:31:36,327 --> 00:31:41,082 that only they could send such a beautiful woman to spy on me. 324 00:31:41,647 --> 00:31:44,605 Sara Saudkova - Jan Saudek's ex-girlfriend and manager 325 00:31:44,687 --> 00:31:46,837 l came across some of his photographs 326 00:31:46,927 --> 00:31:51,125 and later even pictures of him and l fell in love with him. 327 00:31:51,207 --> 00:31:53,437 l thought 328 00:31:53,527 --> 00:31:59,045 that a person who makes such amazing and ethereal pictures 329 00:31:59,127 --> 00:32:04,804 must be like that himself because the artist is reflected in his work. 330 00:32:05,287 --> 00:32:08,643 So l longed to meet this guy, 331 00:32:08,727 --> 00:32:12,686 to see how he looks, what he does. l wanted to know him . 332 00:32:13,047 --> 00:32:18,405 He was of course hiding. He thought that under that name, 333 00:32:19,327 --> 00:32:23,479 my first name, was another girl to whom he promised the earth and sky 334 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:26,445 and of course he had his reasons to hide from her. 335 00:32:26,527 --> 00:32:29,644 He was scared that l was the girl he was hiding from 336 00:32:29,727 --> 00:32:33,436 and as l was not giving up he eventually gave up. 337 00:32:35,247 --> 00:32:39,126 He armed himself with a bunch of girlfriends so he wouldn't be scared 338 00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:42,597 in case there would be some confrontation. l walked in, 339 00:32:42,687 --> 00:32:46,919 he invited me over. He told me where l'd find him. 340 00:32:47,007 --> 00:32:50,522 He expected someone else and l walked in. 341 00:32:50,687 --> 00:32:55,715 l knew at once the fate that would help me to the top had come 342 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:59,766 and if l ever went down it would be a steep fall. 343 00:32:59,847 --> 00:33:03,601 The higher l'd be the deeper l'd fall, so it didn't matter. 344 00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:10,317 Those several years, in fact more than ten years, were striking. 345 00:33:10,407 --> 00:33:13,763 l had a partner who perfectly co-operated with me. 346 00:33:13,927 --> 00:33:18,125 l didn't have the ambition to live with Jan or even connect our lives. 347 00:33:18,207 --> 00:33:21,995 l didn't even think about it and maybe that's why it ended as it did. 348 00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:24,760 l didn't go there with the aim to captivate him . 349 00:33:24,847 --> 00:33:27,122 l just let nature take its course. 350 00:33:27,207 --> 00:33:30,961 She came to my place and there were two ladies sitting on my bed. 351 00:33:31,047 --> 00:33:33,845 l think one was not fully dressed. 352 00:33:33,927 --> 00:33:38,876 From the start she had to know what was up. She sacrificed a lot too 353 00:33:38,967 --> 00:33:42,846 because l don't know anything about her real emotional life. 354 00:33:42,927 --> 00:33:49,560 But she knew she was going to walk a winding road for a couple of years. 355 00:33:50,047 --> 00:33:53,881 She seemed so great to me that l thought she should carry that name, 356 00:33:53,967 --> 00:33:56,561 so she changed both her names. 357 00:33:56,767 --> 00:33:58,678 She carries the name with honor. 358 00:33:58,767 --> 00:34:00,883 Johana Saudkova - Kaja Saudek's wife 359 00:34:00,967 --> 00:34:03,959 l am glad nobody is a disgrace to the name Saudek. 360 00:34:04,287 --> 00:34:09,964 Her name was Sarka Smesna which is a pretty common name in Moravia. 361 00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:12,641 lt's a very respectable name there. 362 00:34:12,807 --> 00:34:14,957 Sara Saudkova - Jan Saudek's ex-girlfriend and manager 363 00:34:15,047 --> 00:34:18,676 Shortly after we met he took me to Amsterdam 364 00:34:18,767 --> 00:34:20,758 where he had his agent back then. 365 00:34:20,847 --> 00:34:24,601 l cunningly came with an old small suitcase. 366 00:34:24,687 --> 00:34:28,441 Maybe Jan still has it hidden somewhere. He never opened it 367 00:34:28,527 --> 00:34:32,236 and the suitcase stayed in his studio. 368 00:34:32,327 --> 00:34:36,240 lt was as if. . . lt was as if he was doomed. 369 00:34:36,607 --> 00:34:42,204 She was very girllike, to me she was very beautiful, young. She was 24 370 00:34:42,287 --> 00:34:45,438 and l showed her off there 371 00:34:45,527 --> 00:34:51,796 because Dutch girls are not the most beautiful and she looked 372 00:34:52,367 --> 00:34:54,642 better than all of them. 373 00:34:57,407 --> 00:35:01,446 l n a dump, under the tub roaches played rub-a-dub-dub. 374 00:35:01,527 --> 00:35:05,998 They pissed and pooped in a thimble and lined the field, all nimble. 375 00:36:24,127 --> 00:36:26,561 After more than 30 years Jan Saudek returns to the place 376 00:36:26,647 --> 00:36:29,639 where in the basement he spent the seven hardest years of his life. 377 00:36:29,727 --> 00:36:33,163 What he couldn't see from his window he eventually caught in his pictures 378 00:36:33,247 --> 00:36:35,158 that subsequently made him world famous. 379 00:36:35,367 --> 00:36:38,120 -This is it, yes. -1 42. 380 00:36:38,727 --> 00:36:41,241 l have to take a picture of it. 381 00:36:41,727 --> 00:36:44,195 -Let's go. -So this is the place? 382 00:36:44,287 --> 00:36:46,084 Yes. 383 00:36:46,407 --> 00:36:51,197 -lt's not familiar. lt's all purple. -What was here? Was it different? 384 00:36:52,447 --> 00:36:56,645 lt looked terrible. Here it is but it was different from the pictures. 385 00:36:56,727 --> 00:37:00,561 But the window is original l can see the remnants of paint. 386 00:37:00,647 --> 00:37:03,207 Upstairs lived a neighbor whom l went after. 387 00:37:03,287 --> 00:37:06,643 -Where? -ln that window. Maybe she's there. 388 00:37:08,647 --> 00:37:13,357 -Darling, you're here! -Hello. -You haven't changed a bit. 389 00:37:13,447 --> 00:37:15,961 But l have, l've changed a lot. 390 00:37:16,047 --> 00:37:20,199 l haven't seen you for so long. Does Ms. Kubcova still live here? 391 00:37:20,287 --> 00:37:23,962 She does, but they amputated her leg, so she's in the hospital. 392 00:37:24,047 --> 00:37:26,607 Poor girl. l'm happy to see you. 393 00:37:26,687 --> 00:37:29,360 Supposedly someone lives there, some tool maker 394 00:37:29,447 --> 00:37:32,598 but now it looks much better. That was terrible, remember? 395 00:37:32,767 --> 00:37:37,602 -What year was it? -1 970 - 1 977. 396 00:37:39,127 --> 00:37:43,484 -Don't drop it in there. -Further, further. Here. 397 00:37:43,967 --> 00:37:47,277 -l see, this is how it looked... -That's the very beginning. 398 00:38:35,687 --> 00:38:37,245 Here. 399 00:38:38,447 --> 00:38:41,484 -Let's see it. -What remains? 400 00:38:42,927 --> 00:38:45,646 At least a distillery chimney is still here. 401 00:38:45,727 --> 00:38:48,924 All that alcohol that must have been made there. 402 00:38:51,927 --> 00:38:56,523 l can't be wrong. Yes, this is it. lt's still used. People walk here. 403 00:38:56,607 --> 00:38:58,677 This is what you recognized it by? 404 00:38:58,767 --> 00:39:02,316 l just recognized it. l can't be wrong. This is the path. 405 00:39:02,407 --> 00:39:06,116 This is how it looks 50 years later. This is the path. 406 00:39:07,127 --> 00:39:10,722 Here it came out into the sky. 407 00:39:11,407 --> 00:39:13,921 Maybe it was a little lower. 408 00:39:15,447 --> 00:39:19,645 That's not very interesting, is it? You expected some sensation. 409 00:39:19,727 --> 00:39:24,198 -Are you sure it wasn't elsewhere? -Yes! lt was here! -Wow. 410 00:39:24,567 --> 00:39:29,197 l don't know if he was on my right, l guess so... On the left. Like this. 411 00:39:29,287 --> 00:39:31,676 -Let me stand there. -Here. 412 00:39:31,767 --> 00:39:34,964 Because this is it. This is the horizon. 413 00:39:35,927 --> 00:39:37,804 This is the horizon. 414 00:39:38,287 --> 00:39:42,041 -No one would find it. -l did. lt's beautiful. 415 00:39:42,967 --> 00:39:47,085 -Who is on the motorcycle? -My brother Kaja. 416 00:39:47,407 --> 00:39:50,126 And the one coming out of the river? 417 00:39:50,207 --> 00:39:54,439 -ls that you? -Yes. lt's Self-exposure. 418 00:39:56,167 --> 00:39:58,681 How does it feel to return to these places? 419 00:39:58,767 --> 00:40:02,396 This is a nice place. Nothing has changed here at all. 420 00:40:03,847 --> 00:40:07,726 -Who is that little girl? -The one expecting her third son. 421 00:40:07,927 --> 00:40:11,203 -Your daughter. -The criminal, yes. 422 00:40:11,407 --> 00:40:13,079 The old criminal. 423 00:40:13,847 --> 00:40:16,042 l paint what l couldn't see for years. 424 00:40:16,127 --> 00:40:18,880 Marie Saudkova - Jan Saudek's youngest daughter 425 00:40:19,007 --> 00:40:22,477 l couldn't see a tree for all those years 426 00:40:22,567 --> 00:40:26,845 so now l have this great urge to paint too many trees. 427 00:40:26,927 --> 00:40:31,398 Painting a sky, river or anything that l've missed, what one needs 428 00:40:31,487 --> 00:40:36,515 because if you only keep looking at a grey wall and a prison courtyard 429 00:40:36,607 --> 00:40:40,646 then you languish and want to see a sky, want to walk on the grass, 430 00:40:40,727 --> 00:40:45,926 so l paint it over and over again and when l get tired of it, 431 00:40:46,607 --> 00:40:50,202 l will move on but for now it will do. 432 00:40:51,047 --> 00:40:55,120 Marie did 3 and a half years in jail because of her addiction to heroin. 433 00:40:55,207 --> 00:40:58,279 Jan took it very hard and never visited her in prison. 434 00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:02,246 lt took several years before they found their way back to each other. 435 00:41:02,527 --> 00:41:05,200 -Do you think she loved Jan? -Definitely. 436 00:41:05,407 --> 00:41:08,046 First she was captivated by him . She was his find. 437 00:41:08,127 --> 00:41:10,482 She was a country girl who lived in a dorm, 438 00:41:10,567 --> 00:41:13,001 Johana Saudkova - Kaja Saudek's wife 439 00:41:13,087 --> 00:41:15,999 suddenly she came to a completely new environment. 440 00:41:16,807 --> 00:41:20,197 He was courting her. He always liked redheads 441 00:41:20,287 --> 00:41:23,120 so he was her great admirer. 442 00:41:23,327 --> 00:41:31,405 He has some character defects and has done a couple of boastful deeds 443 00:41:32,007 --> 00:41:36,364 for which you can forgive him, even for all the bad that's in him . 444 00:41:36,447 --> 00:41:40,963 He has great qualities for which you can admire him and love him . 445 00:41:41,047 --> 00:41:45,006 At the same time he reveals 446 00:41:45,607 --> 00:41:50,681 a great reservoir of bad qualities for which you could hate him 447 00:41:50,767 --> 00:41:55,636 and if you mix it all together you get an impressive being. 448 00:41:56,127 --> 00:42:01,724 My husband told me that when Sara and Jan were still a couple 449 00:42:01,807 --> 00:42:05,561 Kaja told me: "Jan doesn't sleep with her." 450 00:42:05,647 --> 00:42:11,199 l said: "Come on, how could they be so touchy grabby like that then." 451 00:42:11,287 --> 00:42:15,280 We used to go for walks and Kaja'd say: "They don't sleep together!" 452 00:42:15,807 --> 00:42:20,722 l though: "Kaja is speculating again." 453 00:42:20,807 --> 00:42:27,565 l think it was the reason why Jan didn't have a love life with her, 454 00:42:27,647 --> 00:42:30,844 he had her, he did it with other women... 455 00:42:31,407 --> 00:42:34,444 He has a lot of feminine qualities, and thank God for it. 456 00:42:34,527 --> 00:42:37,246 lf it wasn't for that he wouldn't be able to get 457 00:42:37,327 --> 00:42:40,637 into a woman's soul and under her skirt as well as he does. 458 00:42:40,887 --> 00:42:45,244 Sara tolerated it, she smiled about it but the truth is... 459 00:42:45,327 --> 00:42:48,842 She was a young woman who wanted to have a future. 460 00:42:48,927 --> 00:42:51,441 She wanted to keep being Saudkova... 461 00:42:51,687 --> 00:42:54,759 Have you ever thought about having children together? 462 00:42:54,847 --> 00:42:55,916 No. 463 00:42:56,007 --> 00:42:59,363 Do you think he ever thought about it? That he'd want that? 464 00:42:59,447 --> 00:43:03,326 We never talked about it, not that we would avoid it, 465 00:43:03,407 --> 00:43:08,640 we just never considered it and years later Jan explained to me 466 00:43:10,207 --> 00:43:14,723 that we loved each other, that we were so happy by ourselves 467 00:43:14,807 --> 00:43:18,038 that we didn't need a child. And that's true. 468 00:43:18,327 --> 00:43:24,800 She knew if she had another man, and l am pretty sure about it, 469 00:43:24,887 --> 00:43:30,678 and he wasn't his own blood, Jan would ruthlessly throw her out. 470 00:43:30,767 --> 00:43:32,917 He'd be merciless. 471 00:43:33,167 --> 00:43:37,160 When did you first meet Samuel? 472 00:43:37,447 --> 00:43:41,759 -Do you remember? -lt was the same year l met Jan 473 00:43:42,127 --> 00:43:45,802 but back then Samuel was something like my stepson. 474 00:43:45,887 --> 00:43:49,516 l've known him as long as Jan but in a different way. 475 00:43:49,607 --> 00:43:53,805 Did you like him from the start or was it something else? 476 00:43:53,927 --> 00:43:57,283 Did you think that you and he could be. . . 477 00:43:57,367 --> 00:44:00,439 Back then he was still married to lda, Samuel... 478 00:44:00,527 --> 00:44:02,722 l didn't think anything but l liked him . 479 00:44:02,807 --> 00:44:04,923 Samuel Saudek - Jan Saudek's oldest son 480 00:44:05,007 --> 00:44:07,043 When Sara showed some interest, 481 00:44:07,127 --> 00:44:10,676 l was surprised, l mean some basic instincts just don't go away. 482 00:44:11,127 --> 00:44:13,846 Suddenly l realized that she was a nice girl. 483 00:44:13,927 --> 00:44:18,079 What otherwise wouldn't be even possible 484 00:44:18,167 --> 00:44:21,398 l suddenly saw crystal clear. 485 00:44:21,727 --> 00:44:27,757 Do you recall the day you told him you were expecting his son's child? 486 00:44:27,847 --> 00:44:34,559 Yes. l have a bad memory but some details l recall very well. 487 00:44:34,767 --> 00:44:36,120 How did he react? 488 00:44:36,207 --> 00:44:39,802 That evening he was resting in his studio, 489 00:44:39,887 --> 00:44:44,563 some girl or lady had just left after a party. 490 00:44:44,647 --> 00:44:50,040 l came to him and told him that l had news for him. 491 00:44:50,127 --> 00:44:52,595 l told him l was expecting a child. 492 00:44:52,687 --> 00:44:56,760 He was delighted, and half asleep. 493 00:44:56,847 --> 00:45:00,123 He had this nice smile and said: "A child will eat us all." 494 00:45:00,207 --> 00:45:01,276 l remember that. 495 00:45:23,127 --> 00:45:30,442 Now that you're in a feather bed 496 00:45:33,287 --> 00:45:38,998 A truce between us can't be had 497 00:45:43,367 --> 00:45:50,239 Another of history's blunders 498 00:45:53,327 --> 00:45:59,323 That all will believe with wonder... 499 00:46:22,367 --> 00:46:24,198 Good, huh? 500 00:46:27,287 --> 00:46:30,802 Photographing Dominika - a somewhat truthful view - camera A 501 00:46:31,247 --> 00:46:38,323 So far she is one minute late. Well, l haven't met the girl yet 502 00:46:38,527 --> 00:46:45,842 but being late is a terrorism which l can't tolerate. 503 00:46:45,927 --> 00:46:49,920 So in four minutes l will write to her that l waited for 1 5 504 00:46:50,007 --> 00:46:54,364 and will take a chance and go to the park to see 505 00:46:54,447 --> 00:46:58,725 if the lady is less than 1 3 minutes late 506 00:46:58,807 --> 00:47:04,962 but then l think l will not invite her back to pose for me. 507 00:47:08,367 --> 00:47:12,963 Two minutes, we'll see. l believe she'll come 508 00:47:13,047 --> 00:47:15,402 because it's not for free. 509 00:47:17,887 --> 00:47:20,959 -Hello. -Oh my god, you're still a child. 510 00:47:21,047 --> 00:47:23,117 Are you at least 1 5? 511 00:47:23,207 --> 00:47:26,199 l am older than 2 1 . Hello. l'm Dominika, nice to meet you. 512 00:47:26,287 --> 00:47:29,962 -l'm Soudek, come on in. -Soudek? 513 00:47:30,047 --> 00:47:34,484 Lubomir Soudek, take a seat. l will pour you a true blue vintage. 514 00:47:34,567 --> 00:47:36,762 -Do you have a ros�? -l do. 515 00:47:36,847 --> 00:47:40,044 -Then l would like some... -l'm sure you're looking rosy. 516 00:47:40,127 --> 00:47:43,563 -Take a seat, l'll bring the wine. -Thank you. 517 00:47:43,647 --> 00:47:45,717 -Just curl up. -l'll wait, thank you. 518 00:47:45,807 --> 00:47:51,245 Soon you will be napping. Underage persons can't be served alcohol. 519 00:47:51,327 --> 00:47:55,366 -l said l turned 21 already. -l'm sorry for you, you are... 520 00:47:55,447 --> 00:47:57,802 -Old, l know... -You are not so young. 521 00:47:57,887 --> 00:48:01,402 -Sit and l'll tell you something... -Will you have a drink with me? 522 00:48:01,487 --> 00:48:05,275 l'll be glad to but l usually drink only if it might lead to something. 523 00:48:05,367 --> 00:48:08,962 Have you ever stood in front of the camera undressed? 524 00:48:09,047 --> 00:48:11,959 -Unfortunately not or fortunately? -l always do. 525 00:48:12,047 --> 00:48:16,962 -We'll be chaste about it. -l prepared for it a little. 526 00:48:34,847 --> 00:48:38,123 How are we going to photograph it when we're alone? 527 00:48:38,207 --> 00:48:41,597 Good question. The camera has something called a self timer 528 00:48:41,687 --> 00:48:46,886 and l know why they put it there a hundred years ago. 529 00:48:46,967 --> 00:48:50,960 So we will use it and nobody will hear or see anything. 530 00:48:51,047 --> 00:48:52,958 Okay. 531 00:48:55,167 --> 00:48:56,759 This is it. 532 00:49:03,167 --> 00:49:04,725 Great. 533 00:49:12,567 --> 00:49:15,081 Photographing Dominika - a somewhat truthful view - camera B 534 00:49:15,167 --> 00:49:18,477 -Hi, l'm Dominika, nice to see you. -Beautiful name, beautiful face. 535 00:49:18,567 --> 00:49:21,798 -Let me reveal something to you. . . -Will you have a drink with me? 536 00:49:21,887 --> 00:49:24,117 l'll be glad to but l usually drink only if it might lead to something. 537 00:49:24,207 --> 00:49:27,404 l'll have a smoke, three puffs are enough. 538 00:49:27,487 --> 00:49:30,126 Wait, l can't fit this in my mouth. 539 00:49:31,767 --> 00:49:34,679 -Take a rest. -This is nice. -We have to prepare it. 540 00:49:34,767 --> 00:49:38,840 -l'm probably the youngest here. -Oh yes. -l'm youngest everywhere. 541 00:49:39,607 --> 00:49:42,485 -Careful, so they don't trip. -She is great, Bob! 542 00:49:42,567 --> 00:49:49,325 l was born in 1 986, l'm a tiger in the Chinese horoscope. 543 00:49:49,687 --> 00:49:54,078 -And l am a boar. Hippo... -A tiger and a boar. l will do you. 544 00:49:54,167 --> 00:49:57,796 -Yes, do me. -That's a beautiful wall. . . 545 00:49:58,167 --> 00:50:02,001 -Bob, take it from the side. -Beautiful. 546 00:50:02,607 --> 00:50:05,644 Youth and beauty. Babe! 547 00:50:05,727 --> 00:50:10,801 Yes? Excuse me, camera! 1 , 2, 3, go! 548 00:50:11,687 --> 00:50:14,759 -Wouldn't it be better from . . . -lt will be a beautiful picture. 549 00:50:14,847 --> 00:50:17,964 l am so. . . very... 550 00:50:19,007 --> 00:50:21,760 l love you! 551 00:50:21,927 --> 00:50:26,125 -That makes two of you. -l am really shy. -lt won't show. 552 00:50:29,687 --> 00:50:32,281 -lt won't show. -Wait! 553 00:50:32,367 --> 00:50:35,325 Only the fanny will be there. That makes two of you. 554 00:50:37,127 --> 00:50:39,846 -And then l mind that. . . -Hold on. 555 00:50:41,407 --> 00:50:45,366 What's your sign in our horoscope? l'll tell you, Sagittarius. 556 00:50:45,447 --> 00:50:48,803 -Cancer, no, Sagittarius the archer. -How arch. 557 00:50:48,887 --> 00:50:50,764 -l'll try, and the young lady? -You're Sagittarius. 558 00:50:50,847 --> 00:50:53,486 -Right? -Yes. -Wait... 559 00:50:53,567 --> 00:50:55,922 -l'm a bad archer. -Are you really an archer? 560 00:50:56,007 --> 00:50:58,965 -No. What then? -l'm Aries. 561 00:50:59,047 --> 00:51:02,960 -No, l am Taurus. -Taurus? -Born in May. 562 00:51:03,887 --> 00:51:06,765 -So let's get ready. -Should l take my clothes off too? 563 00:51:06,847 --> 00:51:09,759 -We'll have to. Everybody will leave. -Not me. Wait. 564 00:51:09,847 --> 00:51:13,442 -l'll refocus. . . -Everybody leave. 565 00:51:14,007 --> 00:51:18,239 -Only the crew will stay. -lf they're closer, then refocus. 566 00:51:18,567 --> 00:51:21,161 Cool, l got them there. 567 00:51:22,087 --> 00:51:25,079 -Can l bring the kid? -You can. 568 00:51:25,167 --> 00:51:29,922 -Shall we rehearse it first or... -Let's shoot it right away. 569 00:51:30,007 --> 00:51:33,443 l will leave and will call you. 570 00:51:34,847 --> 00:51:38,157 -Wait a minute. -lt's a boy's body. 571 00:51:39,207 --> 00:51:42,404 Turn around, are you a girl at all? Yeah. 572 00:51:45,207 --> 00:51:48,040 -Are we in the center? -Great. 573 00:51:48,127 --> 00:51:50,595 Click, click, click. . . 574 00:51:51,967 --> 00:51:54,845 -Great. Good. -You are superb. 575 00:51:57,447 --> 00:51:58,766 Perfect, thank you. 576 00:51:58,847 --> 00:52:03,477 Your boyfriend is the luckiest man in the world. 577 00:52:04,207 --> 00:52:06,675 -He is a lucky man. -But l hope that you will... 578 00:52:06,767 --> 00:52:09,235 l hope you will invite me to the opening. 579 00:52:09,327 --> 00:52:11,841 -Why not? -That's a beautiful scene. Shoot it. 580 00:52:11,927 --> 00:52:14,361 -Talk with each other. -l hope you'll invite me too. 581 00:52:14,447 --> 00:52:18,759 -You are already invited. -l want it in writing. 582 00:52:20,167 --> 00:52:22,965 But l can't write, only the director here can write. 583 00:52:23,047 --> 00:52:26,005 Where is the director? 584 00:52:27,127 --> 00:52:29,960 Wait, l can't fit this in my mouth. 585 00:52:31,367 --> 00:52:33,358 l'm probably the youngest here. 586 00:53:06,327 --> 00:53:10,718 Now l have cramps in the other leg. lt's gone. 587 00:53:13,047 --> 00:53:17,404 Those two years when his wife was alive, Sara stayed below the radar. 588 00:53:17,487 --> 00:53:21,082 But the minute Marie died and Sara started to be open about being 589 00:53:21,167 --> 00:53:27,606 Jan's partner, that moment the split between Jan and Kaja began. 590 00:53:27,687 --> 00:53:30,804 And in my opinion 591 00:53:30,887 --> 00:53:33,560 because they behaved as twins 592 00:53:33,647 --> 00:53:36,366 and everyone thought about them that way. 593 00:53:36,447 --> 00:53:41,316 Suddenly they were fifty years old and Sara wanted to be number one, 594 00:53:41,407 --> 00:53:44,683 maybe Jan wanted that too 595 00:53:44,767 --> 00:53:49,045 and the only way to do it was to eliminate Kaja. 596 00:53:49,247 --> 00:53:54,275 He touched the right chord inside of me 597 00:53:54,767 --> 00:53:58,077 in order to be able to follow what l was convinced of. 598 00:53:58,167 --> 00:54:06,040 l live the way l want and won't let be forced into anything. 599 00:54:06,527 --> 00:54:12,124 She has Jan's training and sees everything through his eyes. 600 00:54:12,207 --> 00:54:15,244 She really likes that. On the other hand 601 00:54:15,327 --> 00:54:18,683 when they lived together for those two years while he was still married, 602 00:54:18,767 --> 00:54:25,843 the man confides a lot of things to his new partner, tells her his dislikes. 603 00:54:26,487 --> 00:54:29,559 And the woman, if she is smart, and Sara is smart, 604 00:54:29,647 --> 00:54:32,366 won't make those blunders 605 00:54:32,447 --> 00:54:37,237 and won't nag him about things the previous women did. 606 00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:43,637 She very much established something new for Jan and he liked that. 607 00:54:43,727 --> 00:54:46,480 l didn't come there to put things in order 608 00:54:46,567 --> 00:54:50,719 but when l see disorder, my common sense tells me to clean up 609 00:54:50,807 --> 00:54:53,275 because otherwise you can't find anything. 610 00:54:53,367 --> 00:54:56,200 -Was it all in chaos? -Jan evidently lived in chaos. 611 00:54:56,287 --> 00:55:01,486 People around him kept asking him for things and he didn't protest. 612 00:55:02,007 --> 00:55:06,364 Suddenly, after a couple of years she totally changed. 613 00:55:06,447 --> 00:55:09,200 They offered her the erotic show 614 00:55:09,287 --> 00:55:12,484 and she wasn't scared of people anymore. 615 00:55:12,567 --> 00:55:18,437 But most of all she is incredibly strong-willed and very ambitious. 616 00:55:18,847 --> 00:55:24,638 He is a person who handles a camera very well 617 00:55:24,727 --> 00:55:33,396 but he's not a like a businessman who negotiates and calculates. 618 00:55:34,687 --> 00:55:40,125 He plays the ritual as if it's trivial, but it's a tough business. 619 00:55:40,607 --> 00:55:44,077 No way, it wouldn't suit him and he would feel lost in it. 620 00:55:44,407 --> 00:55:47,763 l n 1 989 Jan Saudek was already renowned all over the world, 621 00:55:47,847 --> 00:55:50,486 yet in his country he was pretty much unknown. 622 00:55:50,567 --> 00:55:53,445 The Velvet Revolution brought him absolute fame 623 00:55:53,527 --> 00:55:56,200 but also the absolute loss of artistic privacy! 624 00:55:56,767 --> 00:56:01,636 The so called revolution in fact wasn't, only the neck ties changed 625 00:56:01,727 --> 00:56:04,878 and the new people were a bit younger and more handsome 626 00:56:04,967 --> 00:56:08,880 but what it really gave me 627 00:56:08,967 --> 00:56:14,883 was the gradual loss of omnipresent fear 628 00:56:14,967 --> 00:56:20,200 because l was scared that the security forces would come again 629 00:56:20,287 --> 00:56:25,281 and take away all my negatives because l always thought 630 00:56:25,367 --> 00:56:31,397 that the agents were interested in the pornography that l make. 631 00:56:31,487 --> 00:56:35,480 But it was only individuals who were attracted and wanted to own it. 632 00:56:35,567 --> 00:56:39,401 That is why they searched people who returned from abroad. 633 00:56:39,487 --> 00:56:43,799 And 1 989 definitely enabled me 634 00:56:43,887 --> 00:56:50,406 to photograph almost everything l was afraid to do until then. 635 00:56:50,767 --> 00:56:55,124 So l had total freedom to photograph especially love scenes. 636 00:56:55,327 --> 00:57:01,516 After 1 989 you made a lot of quite sad 637 00:57:01,607 --> 00:57:08,365 or even angry pictures. Some saw them as less full of life 638 00:57:08,447 --> 00:57:12,281 than those from earlier periods What happened? 639 00:57:12,367 --> 00:57:17,157 Youthful energy can't be in them , that would be lying. 640 00:57:17,247 --> 00:57:22,162 l have to see the world through the eyes of an aging man. 641 00:57:23,007 --> 00:57:29,560 l can't pretend l'm 25, though my physical activity is similar. 642 00:57:29,727 --> 00:57:39,159 l n photography - l could portray children and joyful youth, 643 00:57:39,247 --> 00:57:43,843 motherhood or fatherhood but l don't believe in it much. 644 00:57:43,927 --> 00:57:50,685 l n fact l remain underground, l live a pretty modest life, 645 00:57:50,887 --> 00:57:56,678 you know how and self-indulgently enjoy life. 646 00:57:57,127 --> 00:58:01,803 The last years and months l consider the best of my life. 647 00:58:09,247 --> 00:58:11,477 For the motherland. 648 00:58:23,327 --> 00:58:29,357 This picture always awed me and it was hard to find my way to it. 649 00:58:30,407 --> 00:58:33,479 At first l was scared of it. 650 00:58:33,847 --> 00:58:38,602 Even for me it was difficult to take, it took me a year 651 00:58:38,967 --> 00:58:43,597 before l lost my fear and before the girl lost her natural shyness. 652 00:58:43,887 --> 00:58:46,117 ls there a story to it? 653 00:58:46,847 --> 00:58:51,398 As an eight-month-old, half of her body burned in fire. 654 00:58:51,487 --> 00:58:55,082 She had to go through enormous pain. 655 00:58:55,167 --> 00:58:59,558 But l wanted to show as an answer to Joel-Peter Witkin 656 00:58:59,647 --> 00:59:05,244 that in my view people are beautiful and l believe she is attractive. 657 00:59:05,847 --> 00:59:10,125 She even found herself attractive. 658 00:59:10,487 --> 00:59:13,797 Then she left and l've never heard from her again. 659 01:00:08,407 --> 01:00:10,284 No strength. 660 01:00:10,367 --> 01:00:13,723 lt's not what it used to be sixty years ago. 661 01:00:15,567 --> 01:00:17,922 Sara will destroy us all. 662 01:00:18,087 --> 01:00:20,681 Believe me, Sara will destroy us all. 663 01:00:20,767 --> 01:00:23,156 Everyone is the mother's son. 664 01:00:24,087 --> 01:00:26,317 They even make plastic corks now. 665 01:00:26,407 --> 01:00:29,956 But Sara Saudkova is a photographer too. 666 01:00:31,247 --> 01:00:34,444 ls she torturing the family around her with it? 667 01:00:34,527 --> 01:00:37,758 -Just like Jan "tortures" them. -Of course l torture them . 668 01:00:37,847 --> 01:00:41,726 l am a nasty bitch who blackmails people and tries to get their soul. 669 01:00:41,807 --> 01:00:46,927 Because l need to get it out of them into the photographs 670 01:00:47,007 --> 01:00:51,159 in an instant form. l suck them dry, l'm a vampire, 671 01:00:51,247 --> 01:00:53,920 but l do it in an elegant way with a smile. 672 01:00:54,007 --> 01:00:57,204 -What about Samuel? -Not with the smile of an idiot. 673 01:00:57,287 --> 01:01:01,439 With the smile of a shrew. l am a shrew who smiles 674 01:01:01,527 --> 01:01:03,757 and coldly aims and shoots. 675 01:01:05,207 --> 01:01:09,485 -The Order of the Knight. -l've always wanted to see it. 676 01:01:09,567 --> 01:01:12,161 l will put it on my bare chest. 677 01:01:12,487 --> 01:01:16,685 -Don't. -RED HOT photographed me with it. 678 01:01:16,767 --> 01:01:18,678 lt will hurt a lot. 679 01:01:20,287 --> 01:01:22,596 Can l touch it? 680 01:01:22,687 --> 01:01:28,683 lt was given to me by Mayor Chirac, he's president now but not for long. 681 01:01:30,567 --> 01:01:33,161 See how l can keep order. 682 01:01:35,487 --> 01:01:37,125 Thank you. 683 01:01:37,607 --> 01:01:40,997 This is all l can show you. What can you show me? 684 01:01:41,087 --> 01:01:42,281 Nothing, really. 685 01:01:43,167 --> 01:01:45,920 l can't even imagine that it would be different 686 01:01:46,007 --> 01:01:49,044 because if l would have a child with Jan 687 01:01:49,127 --> 01:01:52,324 l would deprive him of myself. 688 01:01:53,007 --> 01:01:56,283 l would bind him to something he didn't want. 689 01:01:56,367 --> 01:02:01,566 He doesn't like commitments, he takes everything too seriously. 690 01:02:01,647 --> 01:02:06,562 l'd either devote myself to the kid and he'd hate being ignored by me. 691 01:02:06,647 --> 01:02:11,277 He is still a little boy. There's a little kid in Jan. 692 01:02:11,487 --> 01:02:14,604 He is an ideal man. A man who remains a child is great. 693 01:02:14,687 --> 01:02:18,236 Then you need another man for the household. 694 01:02:18,607 --> 01:02:25,365 Or l would make him commit to taking care of the child. 695 01:02:25,447 --> 01:02:28,405 l'm sure he loves children very much 696 01:02:28,487 --> 01:02:33,925 but it would be a sin to put such a burden on him, so Samuel... 697 01:02:34,127 --> 01:02:38,757 Not that l picked him as some kind of stud 698 01:02:38,847 --> 01:02:43,477 to father my children. lt was totally spontaneous. 699 01:02:44,007 --> 01:02:49,035 Women are cold-blooded. They're close to being calculating 700 01:02:49,127 --> 01:02:54,201 and they're certainly stronger than men, see further into the future 701 01:02:54,287 --> 01:03:00,806 and their primary role is to take care of offspring which Sara does. 702 01:03:00,967 --> 01:03:04,880 And if on the way a couple of heads roll and some old men fall apart 703 01:03:04,967 --> 01:03:07,800 and return to their prefab house, it doesn't matter. 704 01:03:08,207 --> 01:03:11,199 l've always tried to build up Jan's self-confidence 705 01:03:11,287 --> 01:03:14,916 so he wouldn't doubt himself because he doesn't need to 706 01:03:15,007 --> 01:03:19,558 but he has those doubts in him and is not sure of himself. 707 01:03:19,647 --> 01:03:24,163 Therefore he acts so dashing and cool 708 01:03:24,247 --> 01:03:27,284 but inside he has a very vulnerable and sensitive soul. 709 01:03:27,367 --> 01:03:33,124 God knows if all that women hunting is really him or just a pose. 710 01:03:33,327 --> 01:03:38,355 He doesn't open his letters because he's scared of the flood of emotions 711 01:03:38,447 --> 01:03:45,319 that would come out at him, all those tears, love and hate, 712 01:03:45,407 --> 01:03:50,322 that's part of love and he is scared of it, scared of real love 713 01:03:51,127 --> 01:03:53,083 and responsibility and pain. 714 01:03:53,727 --> 01:03:58,084 l think she was born to succeed and nothing wins like success. 715 01:03:58,327 --> 01:04:03,037 But she traveled a long way in fifteen or sixteen years. 716 01:04:03,127 --> 01:04:07,120 A timid girl who lacked self-confidence - 717 01:04:07,207 --> 01:04:14,079 a twenty-four-year old - became an overconfident mother of many 718 01:04:14,167 --> 01:04:19,799 and in my opinion also a pretty good professional photographer. 719 01:04:19,967 --> 01:04:24,404 l wish her luck with all my heart but our ways parted. 720 01:04:24,487 --> 01:04:29,561 For a while they ran parallel and then they started growing apart 721 01:04:30,567 --> 01:04:33,684 and eventually we will go in totally different directions. 722 01:04:34,087 --> 01:04:37,523 l can imagine him deeply loving a dog, 723 01:04:38,607 --> 01:04:40,643 a motherland. 724 01:04:44,847 --> 01:04:49,762 He loved his father because he talks about him every day, 725 01:04:51,247 --> 01:04:56,241 maybe some of his children but distantly rather than truly. 726 01:04:56,327 --> 01:04:58,522 He is a very peculiar person. 727 01:04:58,807 --> 01:05:01,924 Sara and Jan haven't officially seen each other for over a year, 728 01:05:02,007 --> 01:05:05,158 their contact is limited to letters, faxes and text messages. 729 01:05:05,247 --> 01:05:07,238 However, she is still his only manager 730 01:05:07,327 --> 01:05:10,160 and owner of the rights to sell Jan's photographs. 731 01:05:10,567 --> 01:05:12,717 Sara Saudkova's opening 732 01:05:14,327 --> 01:05:16,761 lt's not mine... 733 01:05:17,167 --> 01:05:19,727 lt's not, huh, whose is it then? 734 01:05:20,167 --> 01:05:23,523 -Who said it? -The word got around. 735 01:05:23,607 --> 01:05:25,563 To you personally? 736 01:05:26,167 --> 01:05:29,842 -He is ugly and has a cone head. -You're kidding. 737 01:05:29,927 --> 01:05:32,805 You talk with all kinds of strangers. 738 01:05:35,127 --> 01:05:37,880 With Sara, Sara is a grandmother. 739 01:05:37,967 --> 01:05:41,118 -He is my brother-in-law, no? -Yeah, l am her brother-in-law. 740 01:05:41,207 --> 01:05:42,845 No, he is an uncle. 741 01:05:44,887 --> 01:05:48,357 -Open your eyes. -He doesn't want to. 742 01:06:06,927 --> 01:06:09,487 Madam , let's start. 743 01:06:09,567 --> 01:06:13,560 Sincerely, heartily and very cheerfully 744 01:06:13,647 --> 01:06:18,357 l welcome you to the opening of the Form of Love exhibition. 745 01:07:35,327 --> 01:07:39,286 "Let me give you one more bit of advice: Do not marry. 746 01:07:39,367 --> 01:07:43,280 Find yourself a handsome man and love each other, 747 01:07:43,367 --> 01:07:47,326 but believe me, marriage is not for you. . ." 748 01:09:01,487 --> 01:09:06,720 Hello, l brought back the puppet. We won't need it anymore. 749 01:09:08,047 --> 01:09:12,040 -l guess l expected someone else. -Take care. -You too, bye. 750 01:09:20,247 --> 01:09:23,956 Tell me, when did Jan laugh the most? 751 01:09:24,807 --> 01:09:30,086 He laughed most when he found out his bank accounts were almost empty. 752 01:09:30,527 --> 01:09:32,916 Pavlina Hodkova - Jan Saudek's girlfriend 753 01:09:33,007 --> 01:09:36,761 -When did that happen? -About a year and a half ago. 754 01:09:36,847 --> 01:09:38,758 What happened? 755 01:09:39,367 --> 01:09:44,839 The money disappeared. Jan says who took the money. . . 756 01:09:45,047 --> 01:09:48,198 -Where did it go? -Nobody knows. 757 01:09:48,407 --> 01:09:52,958 l can't tell where it went because it's not my money 758 01:09:53,047 --> 01:09:55,402 and l can't blame anyone. 759 01:10:13,327 --> 01:10:18,401 l'm looking at these unpretentious and unskillful pictures. 760 01:10:19,687 --> 01:10:22,440 l forgot how l made them 761 01:10:22,607 --> 01:10:29,001 but one thing l remember clearly. l didn't make them for money. 762 01:10:29,167 --> 01:10:34,719 Not even that unfortunate window, l didn't do that for money either 763 01:10:34,807 --> 01:10:39,483 because l didn't anticipate at all that there could be money in it. 764 01:10:40,207 --> 01:10:45,918 But it came and now it's gone again. What comes around, goes around. 765 01:10:46,127 --> 01:10:48,277 But it was there once, 766 01:10:48,367 --> 01:10:52,645 so l can say with satisfaction that for some time, 767 01:10:53,767 --> 01:10:57,999 not for long, l was a rich man. 768 01:11:09,967 --> 01:11:13,846 lt seems trivial to me to talk about work. 769 01:11:13,927 --> 01:11:18,284 When you work, you might see the mark you made as late as one year, 770 01:11:18,367 --> 01:11:22,997 so managing the Saudek.com business, now that you are asking, 771 01:11:23,647 --> 01:11:25,683 means above all to believe in it. 772 01:11:30,847 --> 01:11:35,045 l'm not going to use words like love and happiness too often 773 01:11:35,127 --> 01:11:41,282 because they become devalued but we were really compatible 774 01:11:41,367 --> 01:11:45,918 because l have a lot of male traits and Jan has female traits 775 01:11:46,007 --> 01:11:48,760 so it fit like Ying and Yang. 776 01:11:54,007 --> 01:11:57,238 You don't talk about happiness. lf you keep proclaiming it 777 01:11:57,327 --> 01:12:00,558 it's as if you took out a white flag and called out 'help, 778 01:12:00,647 --> 01:12:02,683 there is something wrong with me.' 779 01:12:04,327 --> 01:12:10,277 l have to get out of that poverty and l feel like a twenty-year-old 780 01:12:10,367 --> 01:12:17,239 who wants to buy some diapers for his newborn. 781 01:12:17,327 --> 01:12:19,795 What are you painting? lt's a cross, clock... 782 01:12:19,887 --> 01:12:22,560 To be honest, it's bullshit 783 01:12:22,647 --> 01:12:26,162 but it always sold so it will sell this time too. 784 01:12:26,767 --> 01:12:28,598 When did you start painting? 785 01:12:28,687 --> 01:12:33,841 More seriously when l was twenty seven. 786 01:12:34,007 --> 01:12:37,841 lf you had a choice, would you be a photographer or a painter? 787 01:12:37,927 --> 01:12:42,921 Painter of course but l think l don't have the right talent. 788 01:12:43,887 --> 01:12:47,163 How would you assess your pictures? 789 01:12:47,767 --> 01:12:50,759 Artless creation, 790 01:12:52,087 --> 01:12:58,242 as one critic said, "worthless figments of an old man." 791 01:12:58,327 --> 01:13:02,957 The first two things fit but l don't buy the old man. 792 01:13:03,647 --> 01:13:07,526 -Did your brother comment on them? -He didn't like them . 793 01:13:08,367 --> 01:13:12,485 -ln fact nobody likes them. -Yet you keep painting? 794 01:13:13,247 --> 01:13:19,595 l paint because l can make a living doing it. 795 01:13:19,687 --> 01:13:21,325 l sell those pictures. 796 01:13:21,407 --> 01:13:24,922 Why are people willing to spend so much money on your pictures? 797 01:13:25,007 --> 01:13:31,685 They spend millions for pictures so why not spend 50, 60 thousand? 798 01:13:33,287 --> 01:13:37,678 Dear, l'm warning you, and you laid my last wife into a coffin 799 01:13:37,767 --> 01:13:40,565 and you remember her angry expression. 800 01:13:40,647 --> 01:13:44,276 Now you are in her shoes and want the same thing, me dead, 801 01:13:44,367 --> 01:13:49,361 and that's not good. Neither you nor l can live with that. 802 01:13:49,447 --> 01:13:53,042 But l'm not going to give you that joy. 803 01:13:53,127 --> 01:13:56,597 l won't give you the pleasure. lt will come, of course, 804 01:13:56,687 --> 01:14:00,236 but by then we will be apart thousands of light years. 805 01:14:00,327 --> 01:14:04,525 -Jan? We should go. -Oh yes. 806 01:14:26,967 --> 01:14:30,482 l think he loves him. l mean he doesn't know it yet. 807 01:14:30,567 --> 01:14:32,125 The baby or Jan? 808 01:14:32,207 --> 01:14:35,040 l think the baby senses it, he feels it. 809 01:14:35,127 --> 01:14:41,157 Jan has his doubts. He's not sure one can have such strong feelings 810 01:14:41,247 --> 01:14:43,477 in such a short time. 811 01:14:44,487 --> 01:14:48,958 But almost every day he prepares his bath if he can. 812 01:14:49,047 --> 01:14:52,676 Pavlina Hodkova - Jan Saudek's girlfriend 813 01:14:52,767 --> 01:14:57,966 And if he can, he talks to him and caresses him , holds him. 814 01:14:58,047 --> 01:14:59,321 Does he enjoy it? 815 01:14:59,407 --> 01:15:03,480 Did you know Lilies of the Valley potion, even the leaves, is poison? 816 01:15:03,567 --> 01:15:06,035 Jewish graveyard, Prague - Olsany 817 01:15:06,127 --> 01:15:08,880 lt's like in Dance of the Vampires 818 01:15:08,967 --> 01:15:12,277 where a poor Jew is in the count's coffin. 819 01:15:12,367 --> 01:15:17,157 My parents moved in on Aunt Schwarzkopf, you see, here they are, 820 01:15:18,367 --> 01:15:22,360 in there and my brother thinks it makes no sense to come here. 821 01:15:22,447 --> 01:15:29,364 My father couldn't sing or dance but he was a genuine man. 822 01:15:29,447 --> 01:15:37,923 l can sing, l dance and l think l am deceitful and dishonest. 823 01:15:38,007 --> 01:15:43,559 He was a top person. That's why I think of him more than others. 824 01:15:43,647 --> 01:15:49,961 My brother was like that too. He taught me to reach for the horizon, 825 01:15:50,047 --> 01:15:53,198 that we can't stop. That's what the road is for. 826 01:15:53,527 --> 01:15:57,839 Your last marriage ended tragically, your wife committed suicide. 827 01:15:57,927 --> 01:15:59,804 No! 828 01:15:59,887 --> 01:16:03,323 -She died of unexplainable... -The one before her killed herself. 829 01:16:03,407 --> 01:16:04,726 Yes. 830 01:16:04,807 --> 01:16:10,962 And the reason for that suicide was that you tormented her? 831 01:16:11,047 --> 01:16:19,159 l'd like to say that most of her relatives hanged themselves, 832 01:16:19,447 --> 01:16:24,567 l sense that on her father's side it was kind of a habit. 833 01:16:25,407 --> 01:16:29,525 But l was accused of it and l take the blame on myself 834 01:16:29,607 --> 01:16:34,442 and when l see her again l will humbly apologize to her. 835 01:16:34,607 --> 01:16:42,082 l think in that family people are respected and seen after death. 836 01:16:43,687 --> 01:16:48,442 As soon as someone dies, he is often visited at the cemetery. 837 01:16:48,527 --> 01:16:54,124 He is praised and remembered but while he's still here, no one cares. 838 01:16:54,207 --> 01:16:58,519 A person receives attention the moment he is gone. 839 01:16:59,487 --> 01:17:03,082 About the woman after whom you are the widower 840 01:17:03,167 --> 01:17:08,878 you could say that she tortured herself to death. 841 01:17:09,967 --> 01:17:13,357 That's it, l even heard that l poisoned her 842 01:17:13,447 --> 01:17:16,564 but that's exaggerating, l didn't go that far. 843 01:17:16,647 --> 01:17:20,401 Yes, she tortured herself to death she really tortured herself to death. 844 01:17:20,487 --> 01:17:25,402 We were pretty much enemies 845 01:17:25,767 --> 01:17:30,795 and l laid her in her grave and during the ceremony they said: 846 01:17:30,887 --> 01:17:33,082 "Say your final good-bye to your mother." 847 01:17:34,567 --> 01:17:37,286 l loved this girl very much. 848 01:17:38,927 --> 01:17:42,317 She is the one who Sara put in her coffin. . . 849 01:17:42,407 --> 01:17:43,806 Your last wife? 850 01:17:43,887 --> 01:17:47,516 Last wife, as you can see, she lived a very short life. 851 01:17:48,327 --> 01:17:52,320 Jan's second wife Jana with whom he had two children, committed suicide. 852 01:17:52,407 --> 01:17:55,399 His third wife Marie died of complete organ failure 853 01:17:55,487 --> 01:17:57,523 when their daughter Marie was 1 5. 854 01:17:57,767 --> 01:18:00,235 -How often do you come here? -Often. 855 01:18:00,327 --> 01:18:02,682 -Definitely every week. -Really? 856 01:18:02,767 --> 01:18:07,921 On the way here l go to see my ex-mother-in-law who hated me 857 01:18:08,007 --> 01:18:10,521 and my parents and possibly 858 01:18:10,607 --> 01:18:14,805 if l have time and some flowers, l put them on Jan Palach's grave 859 01:18:14,887 --> 01:18:18,197 who is in the cemetery we visited recently. 860 01:18:19,287 --> 01:18:21,960 -Are those two deaths haunting you? -Yes. 861 01:18:22,447 --> 01:18:27,965 Often the ladies come, decayed and in torn gowns, 862 01:18:28,047 --> 01:18:32,279 and imply that l should follow them . All the way to the end. 863 01:18:32,367 --> 01:18:36,679 -Do you feel guilty? -All the time. But remember 864 01:18:37,167 --> 01:18:40,557 whatever you do you in your life you will always regret it. 865 01:18:40,647 --> 01:18:43,605 lf l'd stayed in my first marriage and behaved well 866 01:18:43,687 --> 01:18:48,556 l would hate myself now for all those things l would have missed. 867 01:18:49,927 --> 01:18:55,160 ls it coincidental that your last wife has a symbolic gravestone here? 868 01:18:55,367 --> 01:19:03,206 No, l wanted it that way and l am glad because l think of her a lot 869 01:19:04,607 --> 01:19:11,797 and today we will photograph her daughter for some foundation 870 01:19:12,607 --> 01:19:16,680 for free again. lt's moments away and so l am really delighted that 871 01:19:16,767 --> 01:19:23,639 you'll not only see her mom's grave but also her in the bloom of youth. 872 01:19:23,727 --> 01:19:26,366 l think you will like it. 873 01:19:46,927 --> 01:19:53,400 Once all these scamps sleep in their graves, you'll be at your peak. 874 01:19:54,647 --> 01:19:58,242 And a hundred years from now none of us will be alive. 875 01:20:16,127 --> 01:20:18,880 Why are we going to Olomouc? 876 01:20:19,727 --> 01:20:22,287 For sentimental reasons. 877 01:20:22,367 --> 01:20:24,323 Sunday 1 0.6.2007 878 01:20:24,407 --> 01:20:27,558 Today, but earlier in the morning, 879 01:20:27,647 --> 01:20:29,842 it's 50 years since l said good-bye 880 01:20:29,927 --> 01:20:33,522 to my love of one evening but it was very strong. 881 01:20:33,607 --> 01:20:37,680 l was going back to Prague and she stayed in Moravia. 882 01:20:38,567 --> 01:20:41,206 Back then we promised to each other 883 01:20:41,287 --> 01:20:44,836 in the middle of kisses and morning dew 884 01:20:45,007 --> 01:20:49,797 that we'd meet there again in 50 years, if we were still alive. 885 01:20:51,567 --> 01:20:56,687 lf she remembers it will be the most beautiful moment in my life. 886 01:20:57,167 --> 01:21:00,716 l hope she'll recognize me. l don't remember her face. 887 01:21:00,807 --> 01:21:04,004 l remember only that early morning moment. 888 01:21:04,207 --> 01:21:08,803 lf we're lucky and it's why l drag you with me, you will record 889 01:21:08,887 --> 01:21:14,007 this dream coming true, which rarely happens and seldom to me. 890 01:21:14,607 --> 01:21:19,203 lt was a story of one night and those are often the most powerful. 891 01:21:19,287 --> 01:21:24,566 Unfortunately women don't like that. They want a lifelong story, 892 01:21:25,007 --> 01:21:30,923 but men don't. For me it was a story of one sleepless night and morning. 893 01:23:53,287 --> 01:23:57,599 "My dearest, l've forgotten your name, 894 01:23:57,687 --> 01:24:04,718 but the town where l wanted to meet you again. . . 895 01:24:12,527 --> 01:24:20,207 . . .after so many years l will not forget as long as l live." 896 01:24:26,527 --> 01:24:32,762 l've always foolishly believed that night is my kingdom , 897 01:24:32,847 --> 01:24:35,964 that it surrounds me, that it will pamper me, 898 01:24:36,047 --> 01:24:42,646 that in the darkness, my defects and ugliness won't be so visible, 899 01:24:43,887 --> 01:24:47,846 that the night will embrace me and will carry me. 900 01:24:47,927 --> 01:24:54,878 Today l am scared. Even the birds cry in horror at the morning light. 901 01:24:56,327 --> 01:24:59,285 Maybe. 902 01:24:59,607 --> 01:25:03,839 l was never a bird. But l wanted to fly 903 01:25:03,927 --> 01:25:09,718 and at night half asleep l succeeded. 904 01:25:10,367 --> 01:25:15,316 l was flying, not very high above the ground but l was still flying. 905 01:25:15,887 --> 01:25:22,201 But then naturally came the dawn, the daybreak 906 01:25:24,287 --> 01:25:28,883 and that's the time when all our beautiful dreams must go to sleep. 907 01:25:33,767 --> 01:25:35,837 Dolfie, tell me. . . 908 01:25:35,927 --> 01:25:38,919 l am wandering around here, tell me, are you local? 909 01:25:39,007 --> 01:25:42,602 -Yes, l am local. -No, ask: Are you local? 910 01:25:42,767 --> 01:25:45,281 My friend, are you local? 911 01:25:45,527 --> 01:25:48,405 No, l ride the smoker to the end. 912 01:25:52,487 --> 01:25:56,560 -How did you know about the butt? -l've run by it several times. 913 01:27:21,167 --> 01:27:25,001 l don't know if l achieved something, 914 01:27:27,327 --> 01:27:30,205 l seriously doubt it. 915 01:27:31,087 --> 01:27:36,036 After all in the best scenario the photographer's photos are known 916 01:27:36,127 --> 01:27:39,597 but never who is behind them , the creator, 917 01:27:39,687 --> 01:27:45,364 who wants to be greeted and perhaps praised. 918 01:27:45,447 --> 01:27:52,444 l've desperately tried all my life in my homeland to achieve. 919 01:27:55,487 --> 01:27:57,637 And now at the end 920 01:27:58,967 --> 01:28:03,199 l worry that this entire effort 921 01:28:04,047 --> 01:28:06,686 was all in vain. 922 01:30:03,967 --> 01:30:08,518 That short time while l was watching 923 01:30:08,887 --> 01:30:14,678 a woman's behind with admiration, my life slipped between my fingers. 924 01:30:36,847 --> 01:30:38,758 l n 1 990 in Paris, Jan Saudek 925 01:30:38,847 --> 01:30:42,203 was the first Czech to receive after the Velvet Revolution 926 01:30:42,287 --> 01:30:44,676 the French Order of Arts and literature. 927 01:30:44,767 --> 01:30:48,476 He was followed by writer B. Hrabal and ex-president Vaclav Havel. 928 01:30:48,567 --> 01:30:51,400 l n 1 992 Jan Saudek's window inspired the band R.E.M. 929 01:30:51,487 --> 01:30:54,285 who showed it in their video Losing My Religion. 930 01:30:54,367 --> 01:30:57,757 l n 1 998 Jan Saudek was included in the Absolut Vodka family, 931 01:30:57,847 --> 01:31:01,203 his photograph Absolut Saudek together with his interview 932 01:31:01,287 --> 01:31:03,881 was published in the American TlME magazine. 933 01:31:03,967 --> 01:31:07,846 l n 1 998 the Czech Republic held Jan Saudek's last official exhibit. 934 01:31:07,927 --> 01:31:11,124 He donated the auction profit, almost 8 million crowns, 935 01:31:11,207 --> 01:31:13,516 for bone marrow transplants. 936 01:31:13,607 --> 01:31:17,361 Jan Saudek published 20 books which are sold all over the world. 937 01:31:17,447 --> 01:31:21,042 The number of Jan Saudek's books, calendars and posters sold 938 01:31:21,127 --> 01:31:23,516 exceeded a million pieces long ago. 939 01:31:23,607 --> 01:31:27,646 Although he is represented in many prestigious galleries and museums 940 01:31:27,727 --> 01:31:31,515 all around the world, his work is not in the Prague National Gallery. 941 01:31:31,607 --> 01:31:35,646 The producer formally asked for an interview for the film about Saudek 942 01:31:35,727 --> 01:31:38,082 but the director of the National Gallery, 943 01:31:38,167 --> 01:31:40,203 professor Milan Knizak, refused. 944 01:31:40,287 --> 01:31:44,280 Professor Milan Knizak is the second husband of Jan's first wife Marie. 945 01:31:44,367 --> 01:31:46,756 He raised Jan's sons Samuel and David. 946 01:31:46,847 --> 01:31:50,362 Jan Saudek's twin, Kaja Saudek, due to an unfortunate incident, 947 01:31:50,447 --> 01:31:53,644 two years ago fell into a coma that lasted two months. 948 01:31:53,727 --> 01:31:56,525 At present, he rests in the intensive care unit 949 01:31:56,607 --> 01:31:59,201 of the Motol University Hospital in Prague. 950 01:31:59,287 --> 01:32:02,643 His family still believes that a miracle will come true. 951 01:32:02,727 --> 01:32:06,276 Kaja Saudek is still considered the king of Czech cartoons. 952 01:32:06,367 --> 01:32:08,801 Sara is still Jan Saudek's only manager. 953 01:32:08,887 --> 01:32:11,606 She has three children with Jan's son Samuel 954 01:32:11,687 --> 01:32:14,963 and lives in the residence housing the Saudek.com company 955 01:32:15,047 --> 01:32:17,242 at the edge of a nature preserve. 956 01:32:17,327 --> 01:32:20,558 Samuel still lives in his apartment in downtown Prague. 957 01:32:20,647 --> 01:32:23,445 He comes daily to see the children and Sara. 958 01:32:23,527 --> 01:32:27,202 Sara wants to keep delivering children and remain a single mother. 959 01:32:27,287 --> 01:32:31,405 After finishing the documentary, Jan moved out of his flat of 1 7 years 960 01:32:31,487 --> 01:32:36,003 into the old villa where he lives with the family of his daughter Marie 961 01:32:36,167 --> 01:32:39,318 who conquered her heroin addiction. 962 01:35:40,687 --> 01:35:45,203 PO.E.TA 2008 85774

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