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[Shaun]
Previously on "90 Day Fiancé,
Before the 90 Days"
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the Couples Tell All...
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Should we just all
compare boobs?
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-Grab them.
-Don't look, Forrest.
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OK -- no, Sheena's
gonna see me.
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I'm gonna get in trouble here.
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Defend me, Rick.
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Emma and Ziad, have
either of you started dating
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other people?
-I've been actively dating.
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Just some, you know,
flings and hookups.
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A few months ago, Emma reached
out to me on social media,
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and she's like, "I just wanna
let you know that Rob and I
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have been hooking up
for, like, this past year."
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Rob is completely
out of my life.
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Who the [bleep] cares
that they hooked up?
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-Trisha, you have a big update.
-[Trisha] Yes.
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-[Laura] Oh, my God.
-[Jovon] Oh!
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-Oh, my God.
-[Sheena] Wow.
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-[Trisha] I am
six months pregnant.
-Rick, are you the dad?
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Damn.
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Oh.
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I'm more father than you will
ever be in your [bleep] life,
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you piece of [bleep].
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And Forrest, did you tell
Sheena that Emma was flirting
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with you?
-Of course I did.
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[Shaun]
And what did she say?
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"I'm gonna rip that fake bitch's
lips off."
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[Laura] Damn.
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-You’re lying.
-[Shaun] Sheena!
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-Oh, no, no.
-I didn't know you had
this side to you.
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-Oh, no!
-Is that another lie, Sheena?
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Daniel and I are
no longer engaged.
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[Daniel speaking]
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What?
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You tricked me!
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What?
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We went for a cleansing,
and he said that was a wedding.
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A wedding
that I didn't know about.
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-Ooh.
-Ah!
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-Holy [bleep]!
-He doesn't give a [bleep].
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Look at that smile.
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And now he pretty much told me
that I am cursed.
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-What?
-I ended up in the hospital.
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-I was bleeding, I was dying.
-What?
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I will be honest, I keep going
back to Daniel because
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I'm terrified for my life.
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I feel like I'm gonna die
because I am cursed
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by a Nigerian priest.
-Oh my God.
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It was a black magic curse.
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Daniel says that we are
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cursed by this --
-Calm -- calm down, OK?
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Have you not told me
that we are cursed, Daniel?
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What the [bleep],
you -- you -- ugh.
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I was told that
it cannot be undone
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unless I come back to Nigeria.
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Daniel, do you think these
things that have happened
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to Lisa are the result
of this curse?
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[Daniel]
Yes.
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-Oh, Jesus.
-That's scary.
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Hey, Lisa, he's [bleep] crazy.
Don't believe that [bleep].
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Those stuff only work
if you believe it.
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Your thoughts and your words
are very powerful.
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So I rebuke that.
There's no curse on you, girl.
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Don't accept that [bleep].
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[Lisa]
Thank you, Stig.
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I think the biggest question is,
why couldn't I know
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that my mother was going
into the hospital
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and was dying?
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What is she talking about?
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Can you give us some clarity
on what you're talking
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about, Faith?
-Mom had an ectopic pregnancy.
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What?
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She already had
a hysterectomy.
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We never even considered
she could get pregnant.
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[Laura]
Wait.
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I didn't know you could have
an ectopic pregnancy when
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you had a partial hysterectomy.
It wasn't a full hysterectomy.
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-It was a partial one.
-[Laura] Oh, Lisa, I'm so sorry.
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I'm sorry, Lisa.
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[Emma]
So sorry, Lisa.
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So what?
I need clarification.
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What does that mean?
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Mom could not save
the pregnancy, no matter what.
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[Shaun]
Yeah, an ectopic pregnancy
is a pregnancy that happens
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outside the uterus.
-That's crazy.
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Lisa, did this happen
at a hospital in Nigeria
or in the States?
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No.
I was over 10 weeks pregnant.
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It happened in the States.
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After you had gotten back
from Nigeria?
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[Lisa]
After I'd gotten back
from Nigeria.
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We got pregnant right around
the first time we had sex.
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[group]
Wow.
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And Daniel didn't want
anybody to know.
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Faith finally found out.
I did tell her.
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And I wouldn't even allow
her to go to the hospital
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with me in fear
of what Daniel would say.
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That's wild.
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I went through the whole thing
by myself,
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the surgery and everything.
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He went to sleep when you said
you were about to have
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to have surgery.
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I tried to wake you up.
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But, Daniel, you were not
there for me,
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and I don't need you.
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I found my truth.
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-I know who I am today.
-[Laura] Yes, you do.
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I'm not gonna let somebody
push me down and tell me who
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I can be and who I can't be
any longer.
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I will find my voice.
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'Cause I don't have
that kind of love
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for you anymore, Daniel.
You ruined it.
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[Shaun]
OK, there are certainly
a lot of layers to this story.
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Lisa, we learned earlier that
your last breakup was caused
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by accusations of cheating,
which you denied.
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Daniel, did you accuse her
of sleeping with other people?
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You know, I haven't had sex
with anybody since Daniel.
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And that's the truth.
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[Daniel speaking]
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You don't have to believe me.
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I don't give a [bleep]
if you believe me or not.
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[Shaun]
OK, Daniel, hold on.
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Lisa, tell us, who is this
other guy in Nigeria?
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We met on social media.
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He has been a very good friend
to me.
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He was there for me
when Daniel and I were going
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through problems.
He was my best friend.
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-Best friend.
-[Lisa] He talked to me
through everything.
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And I'll tell you what,
he's no longer my best friend.
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He is the love of my life.
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-Oh.
-Damn.
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At first, he was just
commenting on my videos.
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It was very innocent,
fun, little comments.
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And then one day,
Daniel and I had a fight.
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And I said, "You know what?
I'm gonna ask
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a guy's opinion
if I was in the wrong."
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He actually told me
Daniel was right.
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-[Elise] Wow.
-[Lisa] He took Daniel's side.
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-[Laura] Wow.
-[Lisa] And we
just started talking.
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Talked about my marriages,
and we talked about Faith.
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We talked about everything.
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This is a lot of communication
you're holding with this guy.
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I was.
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[Shaun] When you were
in a relationship with Daniel?
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Yeah, yeah.
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OK, so do you feel like you
were cheating on Daniel
talking to him?
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I don't, because we weren't
doing anything inappropriate.
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It was normal conversations.
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I mean, I saw
the text messages.
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They were just friends.
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Maybe emotional connection,
though.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, but still, that's --
that's -- that's a form
of cheating, I think.
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[Lisa]
He has.
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Now, yes,
but we're not together.
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You and I aren't together.
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No, no, we were not
in a relationship.
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Just because you think we're
in a relationship does not mean
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we're in a relationship.
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Huh?
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What the hell?
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You're not her master.
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He believes that he is
the master of me.
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-[bleep]
-[Faith] I don't think anyone
should belong to anyone.
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[Lisa] Can I have
two masters at a time?
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No, I cannot have two masters,
and I won't have any master.
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Rick is nodding.
Do you agree with Daniel?
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-I believe that the man
was trying to -- yeah.
-Swoop in.
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[Laura]
Mm-hmm.
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She doesn't want you.
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[Shaun]
OK, at this point, we're all
curious about this mystery man.
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And we are fortunate enough
to connect with him now.
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[Laura and Rick]
What?
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-So we and Daniel
can get to know him.
-[Elise] Oh, no.
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Oh.
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Please welcome Ty.
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Everybody's gonna see
how she acts and manipulates.
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Starts with the waterworks.
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I feel like I wasted
a lot of time.
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-Don't cry.
-Yeah, I feel bad about it.
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[Emma]
Oh.
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There is something that
I've been, like, upset about.
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I found out, like,
you tried to hook up with Rob.
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I didn't do anything
[bleep] wrong.
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That guy's not your boyfriend.
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He's [bleep] able to do
whatever the [bleep] he wants.
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[Emma]
Don't raise your voice at me.
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-Don't -- don't --
-Don't get me mad
and attack me.
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You're hooking up
with other guys.
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Who [bleep] cares?
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[Shaun]
Lisa has a new man in her life.
Please welcome Ty.
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-Hi, Ty.
-[Trisha] Oh.
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[Lisa]
Hi, Ty.
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-Oh.
-Hi, baby.
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[Shaun]
How are you?
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Every -- everyone
is doing great.
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Daniel, would you like
to say hello to Ty?
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[Shaun]
You're not?
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Ty, do you consider Lisa
your girlfriend?
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Do we have a big age gap?
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No -- no --no hate on that.
I mean, it just looks like it.
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It's 21 years, he's 31.
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[Laura]
How does this work going
forward if Lisa's traditionally
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married to Daniel
in Nigeria
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and now has a new man
in Nigeria?
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Lisa, do you have plans
to go to Nigeria again?
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-[Lisa] I do.
-[Shaun] You do?
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-I do.
-To see Ty?
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[Lisa]
Yes.
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Faith is coming with me
when I go to Nigeria.
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Faith knows Ty
and has approved of Ty.
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Ty and I are having
a legal wedding.
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[gasps]
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You and Ty are
getting married?
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-Ty and I are getting married.
-[Laura] Whoa, wait, what?
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-These bombs just keep dropping.
-Yeah, this is a lot.
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Wow.
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So Ty, have you proposed
to her?
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[Ty speaking]
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Wait, what?
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Why don't you just, like,
move there, take it slow,
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see how you like it, then maybe
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an engagement, then a marriage.
Like, what's the rush?
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Eh, she's never like that.
That's the issue.
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-You're very impulsive,
Mom, you know [indistinct].
-I am very impulsive.
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I am very impulsive,
number one.
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-[Faith] That's
her track record.
-[Shaun] OK.
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Daniel, do you have any
warnings or advice to Ty
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as he prepares for his marriage
to Lisa?
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Oh.
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I'm getting married to Ty.
I wanna be away from Daniel.
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Daniel finds a way back into
my life every which way I go.
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I don't think you escape
from one guy and jump
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in with another.
-It’s not about it, it's
not just about escape.
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But you just said
you can't get away from him.
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I can't get away from Daniel.
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-I feel like...
-Daniel keeps finding
a way back into my life
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and I don't wanna --
-...that's not a good motivation
to jump into a marriage
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with something -- the same.
-It's not just about that.
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-It feels like you're
doing more of the same.
-It’s not just about that.
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I will be honest
with you, Laura.
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I love Ty.
Ty knows about my past.
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Ty knows about everything
about me.
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But the difference was,
he accepted it from
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the very beginning.
-I can see the difference.
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OK.
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This sounds like an extremely
complicated situation
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between all of you.
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Faith, thank you so much
for being here.
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-We really appreciate it.
-Thank you.
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-[Shaun] Thank you.
-Thank you, Faith.
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Ty, it has been a pleasure
meeting you today.
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Thank you for speaking with us.
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[Ty speaking]
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[Shaun]
Lisa, it seems like you've
moved on, but any final words
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for Daniel?
-Leave me alone and let me go.
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Let me go, Daniel.
You say that you are my master.
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Just let me go because
I don't have a master.
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No, it's -- it's -- it's...
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Oh, my God.
This is insane.
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OK, that was a lot.
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There is still a lot of things
that need to be figured out.
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Everybody stretch your legs,
and we'll call you back soon.
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[Aviva]
That's no good.
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[Lisa] Thank you
for sticking up for me.
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-Thank you for holding my back.
-[Faith] Yeah, I love you.
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So if I married Ty,
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what is your percentage
of approval?
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70, 75.
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And the reason it's that amount
is because I really do think
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you should have a break.
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Take your time.
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I will -- I will take my time
with the wedding,
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but I am still moving, Faith,
to be with him
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and to live with him
and to grow with him
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and to see
what life is like with him.
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Please don't move to Nigeria
right away.
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Please.
Give it time.
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-Give it time.
-It's worth waiting.
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[Elise] I'm coming
in the girl's circle.
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Are you OK?
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I love you and I care
about you.
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I am perfectly OK.
I am perfectly OK.
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That was a [bleep] load.
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-Yeah, it was.
-Yeah.
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-Yeah.
-When Ty came on,
I kind of felt bad for Daniel.
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-I'm not gonna lie.
-Really?
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-I didn't feel bad.
-I felt bad that, like,
Daniel had to see the guy that
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she's now in love with.
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OK, sorry.
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[Lisa]
Faith, I'll see you tonight.
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[Elise]
But I don't think they're
traditionally married.
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I don't know.
Maybe she'll go back to women.
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Alright, let's be done
with me now.
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-Oh, there's my Sheena.
-[Shaun] Alright.
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[producer]
Three, two...
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Now we are turning
our attention
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to Forrest and Sheena.
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Before Forrest and Sheena
can get married, they face
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two big obstacles.
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Forrest's disapproving mom
and him needing a steady job
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for the K-1 visa process.
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So Forrest, you said that
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you're a pharmacy tech.
-[Forrest] Yeah.
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-[Shaun] Mm-hmm?
-I just got my paycheck...
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-Ooh!
-...today, $781.
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And I'll get another one
next week.
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[Shaun]
Alright.
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You think it's going to be
enough to support
you and Sheena?
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Um, as long as I keep this job.
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I do have to say that it really
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is putting a lot of stress
on me and my body.
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-I'm doing 40 hours a week.
-[Shaun] Yes.
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And then sometimes overtime.
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And when I get home, I barely
have time to talk to my Sheen.
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Because --
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[Shaun]
Oh.
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00:15:45,482 --> 00:15:47,689
-Don't cry.
-Yeah, I feel bad about it.
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-[Sheena] I love you, baby.
-[Emma] Oh.
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I get home and I want to spend
time with her, and I can't
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because I'm so tired
and I just pass out.
-[Emma] Oh, aw.
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And then it's the same thing
with my mom.
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I can't spend any time
with my mother either.
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00:16:02,034 --> 00:16:05,379
-That might be a good thing.
-[Molly] There it is.
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Everybody thinks that I'm just
like this big bad guy,
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00:16:09,137 --> 00:16:12,068
but everybody's gonna see
how she manipulates.
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00:16:12,241 --> 00:16:15,000
Starts with the waterworks.
You're gonna see.
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00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:19,827
I have no time for anybody,
but I wanna get everything
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00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,482
done as fast as possible.
329
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And I feel like
I wasted a lot of time.
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Keep your eye
on the prize, Forrest.
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You got this, Forrest.
332
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One day you'll be sleeping
right next to Sheena.
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I hope so.
334
00:16:32,379 --> 00:16:35,206
But I have not started
the application process yet,
335
00:16:35,379 --> 00:16:38,172
because you can't even,
you know,
336
00:16:38,344 --> 00:16:39,586
fill it online anymore.
337
00:16:39,758 --> 00:16:42,896
It has to be on paper,
and I don't have a printer.
338
00:16:43,034 --> 00:16:46,103
And getting everything together,
it's just very confusing.
339
00:16:46,275 --> 00:16:48,206
I'll help you with
the paperwork, Forrest.
340
00:16:48,379 --> 00:16:50,689
-I would -- I would love that.
-I'll help you.
341
00:16:50,862 --> 00:16:53,103
-I live close to you, Forrest.
-[Forrest] I know.
342
00:16:53,275 --> 00:16:54,689
I promise to come
and help you.
343
00:16:56,413 --> 00:16:57,931
I would appreciate that, guys.
344
00:16:58,068 --> 00:17:00,068
-Thank you so much, guys.
-I -- I love you all.
345
00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:02,000
-Thank you.
-You're welcome, Sheena.
346
00:17:02,137 --> 00:17:03,344
We love you.
347
00:17:03,344 --> 00:17:05,827
-Thank you.
-Sheena seems
very excited about that.
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00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,205
OK.
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00:17:07,205 --> 00:17:10,205
Well, besides the K-1 visa,
another hurdle this couple
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has faced is family approval.
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00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:16,275
Forrest's mom was not happy
when he popped the question
352
00:17:16,448 --> 00:17:18,517
to Sheena.
Now, she is here.
353
00:17:19,517 --> 00:17:21,000
Please welcome Molly.
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00:17:22,482 --> 00:17:23,689
Alright, where is she?
355
00:17:28,793 --> 00:17:30,206
Here we go.
356
00:17:31,689 --> 00:17:35,482
She's very deceptive,
and I worry she won't
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actually come here.
358
00:17:37,448 --> 00:17:39,517
I started this thinking Molly
was the problem, and now
359
00:17:39,689 --> 00:17:41,620
I switched to thinking
Sheena's the problem.
360
00:17:41,793 --> 00:17:44,310
There's something
that doesn't sit quite right.
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00:17:44,482 --> 00:17:46,172
-[Molly] Sheena?
-Yes, Mom?
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00:17:46,344 --> 00:17:50,896
If the day comes,
would you really actually leave
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00:17:51,034 --> 00:17:52,103
and come over here and stay?
364
00:18:00,793 --> 00:18:03,034
Please welcome
Forrest's mom, Molly.
365
00:18:04,586 --> 00:18:05,620
-[Shaun] Hi, Molly.
-[Molly] Hello.
366
00:18:05,620 --> 00:18:07,137
-Hey, Mom.
-[Molly] Very nice to meet you.
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00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:08,172
I love your dress.
368
00:18:08,344 --> 00:18:10,448
[Molly]
Hey, son, hey.
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00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:12,034
-Welcome.
-Looking fancy.
370
00:18:12,206 --> 00:18:16,344
-Ooh, thank you, hey Sheena.
-Hi, Mom.
371
00:18:16,517 --> 00:18:18,965
Well, Molly, thank you so much
for being here.
372
00:18:19,103 --> 00:18:23,344
You were really upset
with Forrest in the Philippines.
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00:18:23,517 --> 00:18:25,379
Are you guys back
on good terms today?
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00:18:26,655 --> 00:18:27,655
Um...
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00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:31,068
we're trying to be.
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00:18:32,137 --> 00:18:34,241
We have a type of relationship
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00:18:34,413 --> 00:18:37,689
where we say
what's on our mind.
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00:18:37,862 --> 00:18:40,379
That's where we have our,
you know, squabbles.
379
00:18:41,689 --> 00:18:42,689
OK.
380
00:18:43,758 --> 00:18:45,551
Well, despite
the disagreements,
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00:18:45,724 --> 00:18:49,000
this mother and son relationship
is very close.
382
00:18:49,137 --> 00:18:51,586
Let's take a look at some
of the advice Molly gave
383
00:18:51,758 --> 00:18:54,379
to Forrest, including some
never-before-seen footage.
384
00:18:56,241 --> 00:19:00,068
-Forrest, lube and condoms.
-[Forrest] Alright, right.
385
00:19:00,241 --> 00:19:02,379
There you go.
No babies.
386
00:19:02,551 --> 00:19:05,172
Have fun.
Be safe.
387
00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:08,862
-You got this, Mom.
-No, you got this.
388
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,758
-[Forrest] Dang straight.
-You have fun.
389
00:19:10,931 --> 00:19:12,068
Turn the radio up.
390
00:19:12,241 --> 00:19:16,034
Show her respect,
which I know you will.
391
00:19:16,206 --> 00:19:19,758
And have a hell of a good time.
You -- you guys deserve it, OK?
392
00:19:19,931 --> 00:19:22,482
-OK, I love you, son.
-I love you, too, Mom.
393
00:19:22,655 --> 00:19:23,586
-OK.
-Good night.
394
00:19:23,758 --> 00:19:24,689
-[Molly] Good night.
-Thank you.
395
00:19:24,862 --> 00:19:25,793
[Molly]
Yes.
396
00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:30,448
Did you guys do
the old nookie-nookie?
397
00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:33,103
[Stig laughs]
398
00:19:33,275 --> 00:19:34,758
-[both] No.
-[Molly] No?
399
00:19:34,931 --> 00:19:36,586
-[both] No.
-Oh, OK.
400
00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:40,965
Well, there are other things
that you can do.
401
00:19:41,103 --> 00:19:44,034
There's oral sex.
There's fondling.
402
00:19:44,206 --> 00:19:45,758
Oh, Molly.
403
00:19:45,931 --> 00:19:47,379
You know, if we wanna talk
about sex with you,
404
00:19:47,551 --> 00:19:48,896
we'll come up and ask about it.
405
00:19:51,241 --> 00:19:53,275
OK.
Excuse me.
406
00:19:58,862 --> 00:20:00,103
Oh.
407
00:20:03,379 --> 00:20:05,379
As of today, I am not
a virgin anymore.
408
00:20:06,758 --> 00:20:08,758
It was a great sensation.
I never...
409
00:20:08,931 --> 00:20:11,448
It's way better than what
I thought, OK?
410
00:20:11,620 --> 00:20:14,172
Way better than what I do
at night by myself.
411
00:20:14,344 --> 00:20:16,896
Me and my hand, I'm sorry,
we're gonna have to break up.
412
00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:22,482
-[Aviva] OK, Forrest.
-[Laura] Get it, Forrest.
413
00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:23,551
Sheena!
414
00:20:23,724 --> 00:20:25,793
-Action man.
-Way to go, Sheena.
415
00:20:28,137 --> 00:20:30,379
My hand now belongs to --
to Sheena, so.
416
00:20:30,551 --> 00:20:34,068
-Oh, wow, get it, girl.
-He retired it.
417
00:20:35,965 --> 00:20:40,482
[Shaun] Alright, Molly,
when you look back at that,
418
00:20:40,655 --> 00:20:43,793
do you think you were
being too involved
419
00:20:43,965 --> 00:20:45,655
in their sex life?
420
00:20:45,827 --> 00:20:47,482
No.
421
00:20:47,655 --> 00:20:49,034
-That's crazy.
-No?
422
00:20:49,206 --> 00:20:50,862
-That's crazy.
-That's wild.
423
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,655
[Molly]
You know, like I said,
we have a very open
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00:20:53,827 --> 00:20:57,172
communication with each other.
And that's just, you know,
425
00:20:58,689 --> 00:21:01,000
a discussion that everybody
would feel comfortable
426
00:21:01,137 --> 00:21:03,275
talking about, we -- I mean --
-It didn't look like anyone was
427
00:21:03,448 --> 00:21:05,724
comfortable when you were
talking about that.
428
00:21:08,172 --> 00:21:11,137
Yeah, it's -- it's awkward
to have these conversations
429
00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:13,482
with my mom at times.
430
00:21:13,655 --> 00:21:17,482
But I have to understand
that I'm still her son.
431
00:21:17,655 --> 00:21:23,034
And it may come across
as nasty, sexual, oh, she's in
432
00:21:23,206 --> 00:21:26,344
his business, but she's just
there supporting me.
433
00:21:35,758 --> 00:21:37,689
[Shaun]
So you and Forrest disagree,
434
00:21:37,862 --> 00:21:39,448
because Forrest
is saying it was fine.
-[Molly] Yeah.
435
00:21:39,620 --> 00:21:41,896
Sheena is saying
she was uncomfortable.
436
00:21:42,034 --> 00:21:44,344
OK, so it's to an extent.
437
00:21:44,517 --> 00:21:46,896
So like, the lube and stuff,
438
00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:49,482
that was like,
"Oh, I care about you,"
439
00:21:49,655 --> 00:21:53,551
but then asking how our sex was,
I do believe that
440
00:21:53,724 --> 00:21:57,103
was overstepping the line
for both me and Sheena.
441
00:21:57,275 --> 00:21:58,482
That -- that was
a little weird, Mom.
442
00:22:00,586 --> 00:22:01,896
Yeah.
443
00:22:02,034 --> 00:22:03,482
It's like a matter-of-fact
type thing.
444
00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:05,862
It's like, I don't want
all the juicy details
445
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,862
or anything like that.
446
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,344
Just, OK, yes, no, fine, good.
447
00:22:09,517 --> 00:22:10,482
Do you need any guidance?
448
00:22:15,758 --> 00:22:17,689
[Shaun]
Well, you've got a fan, Molly.
449
00:22:17,862 --> 00:22:19,344
[indistinct overlapping chatter]
450
00:22:21,379 --> 00:22:23,000
Yes.
451
00:22:26,862 --> 00:22:29,103
Molly, how do you view
Forrest and Sheena's
452
00:22:29,275 --> 00:22:30,586
relationship today?
453
00:22:30,758 --> 00:22:33,896
I support their relationship,
I do, as long as --
454
00:22:34,034 --> 00:22:35,448
as Sheena doesn't lie.
455
00:22:37,344 --> 00:22:41,482
Do you still feel
like Sheena lies to you?
456
00:22:42,482 --> 00:22:44,793
Yes.
I feel like Sheena still lies.
457
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,793
Because she's very deceptive.
458
00:22:52,172 --> 00:22:54,137
[Shaun]
What do you think
she's lying about?
459
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:58,137
It comes down to the --
doing the whole process
460
00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:02,586
with the K-1 visa and all
of the money with her family.
461
00:23:02,758 --> 00:23:04,896
Sheena changes the story daily.
462
00:23:05,034 --> 00:23:07,172
She's very manipulative.
463
00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:08,793
-Oh.
-[Annalyn] Oh, wow.
464
00:23:08,965 --> 00:23:10,172
Yeah.
465
00:23:10,172 --> 00:23:13,344
How did you feel, Molly,
when Sheena said that she would
466
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:18,034
not send money to her family
anymore, and then the next day,
467
00:23:18,206 --> 00:23:22,275
after the conversation with
her father says she still needs
468
00:23:22,448 --> 00:23:24,862
to send them money
and Forrest needs to send money?
469
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,586
But that's exactly what I'm --
I'm talking about, how this
470
00:23:27,758 --> 00:23:31,379
flip-flop type thing of tell
one person one thing and then
471
00:23:31,551 --> 00:23:34,689
tell somebody else something
else and then have it not even
472
00:23:34,862 --> 00:23:37,068
be the total truth at all.
473
00:23:37,241 --> 00:23:40,103
Actually, Forrest really
wanted me to save money,
474
00:23:40,275 --> 00:23:43,275
so I don't know how to explain
this to him that it's culturally
475
00:23:43,448 --> 00:23:46,689
for me to have it to help
my family because my family
476
00:23:46,862 --> 00:23:50,034
also provides the stuff that
I need in my daily life.
477
00:23:53,758 --> 00:23:57,448
So I happen to save money much
better compared to the last,
478
00:23:57,620 --> 00:23:59,241
the longest years.
479
00:23:59,413 --> 00:24:02,000
So you -- your family hasn't
been asking you for money?
480
00:24:02,172 --> 00:24:04,689
No, no more.
No, no, no.
481
00:24:04,862 --> 00:24:07,172
That's not what I was told.
482
00:24:07,344 --> 00:24:09,482
Her parents were asking
her for money.
483
00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:10,482
[Shaun]
As recently as?
484
00:24:10,655 --> 00:24:12,793
Yes, as recently
as a week ago.
485
00:24:12,965 --> 00:24:14,103
-No, no, no, no.
-[Shaun] OK.
486
00:24:14,275 --> 00:24:18,241
-Wow.
-Why -- why Sheena
disagree with that?
487
00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:19,896
Yeah, that's what
I'd like to know, Sheena.
488
00:24:20,034 --> 00:24:22,103
-[Rick] Uh-oh.
-[Molly] It's a lie.
489
00:24:22,275 --> 00:24:24,034
What money?
What money?
490
00:24:24,206 --> 00:24:26,241
OK, you gonna start crying
now, Sheena?
491
00:24:26,413 --> 00:24:27,448
Oh, my -- oh.
492
00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:29,172
-That's bullying.
-[Jovon] Yeah.
493
00:24:33,862 --> 00:24:34,965
'Cause she's
interrogating me.
494
00:24:35,103 --> 00:24:37,793
And yeah.
That's why she's crying.
495
00:24:37,965 --> 00:24:39,344
No, no, I'm not crying.
It's OK.
496
00:24:45,379 --> 00:24:46,379
Is that the truth?
497
00:24:47,586 --> 00:24:49,896
-Oy.
-Molly, who told you that?
498
00:24:52,172 --> 00:24:53,482
Look at Forrest.
Look at him.
499
00:24:53,655 --> 00:24:56,758
-[Rick] Yeah.
-[Shaun] Ooh, Forrest?
500
00:24:56,931 --> 00:24:58,586
Uh, yes.
501
00:24:58,758 --> 00:25:01,344
-Oh, no.
-Forrest, did you tell
your mom that?
502
00:25:01,517 --> 00:25:05,000
So they -- they asked for help,
but then they didn't,
503
00:25:05,172 --> 00:25:07,172
like, take any money from her.
-Oh.
504
00:25:08,586 --> 00:25:10,689
They asked for help,
but she didn't send it to them.
505
00:25:10,862 --> 00:25:12,172
-[Forrest] Exactly.
-[Molly] Oh.
506
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:16,379
So she's -- Sheena's not lying.
She hasn't given them any.
507
00:25:16,551 --> 00:25:17,793
-[Shaun] OK.
-But they've asked.
508
00:25:17,793 --> 00:25:20,793
But Sheena, you just said
they have not asked for money.
509
00:25:20,965 --> 00:25:22,758
-Mm-hmm.
-No.
510
00:25:22,931 --> 00:25:24,689
No.
They didn't.
511
00:25:24,862 --> 00:25:26,758
But -- but Forrest is
saying the opposite.
512
00:25:26,931 --> 00:25:28,103
-Yeah.
-[Elise] They have asked.
513
00:25:28,275 --> 00:25:30,275
You haven't given.
There's a difference.
514
00:25:32,586 --> 00:25:33,931
I don't understand.
515
00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:38,275
-Forrest.
-[Shaun] Fo -- OK.
516
00:25:38,448 --> 00:25:42,862
So Sheena, your parents said,
"Hey, can you help me out?"
517
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,551
-OK.
-And then you said "No," right?
518
00:25:45,724 --> 00:25:47,586
-Yes.
-And didn't give them anything.
519
00:25:47,758 --> 00:25:49,758
Correct.
That's what happened.
520
00:25:49,931 --> 00:25:51,034
-Yes.
-There, there.
521
00:25:51,206 --> 00:25:52,137
-That's -- that's it.
-Oh.
522
00:25:53,241 --> 00:25:55,000
But you don't have to lie.
523
00:25:56,172 --> 00:26:00,896
I feel like Sheena feels
intimidated by Molly because
524
00:26:01,034 --> 00:26:04,103
every time you talk to her,
you always have this energy
525
00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:05,586
-Like you --
that you wanna fight her.
526
00:26:05,758 --> 00:26:08,137
That's the last thing I want
is for Sheena to feel
527
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:12,275
intimidated because ultimately,
I love her and I care about
528
00:26:12,448 --> 00:26:15,758
her and I want
what's best for her.
529
00:26:15,931 --> 00:26:17,068
-And she loves Forrest.
-[Emma] Aw.
530
00:26:17,241 --> 00:26:18,896
I know she loves him.
531
00:26:19,034 --> 00:26:20,758
I think that she's a good fit
for him.
532
00:26:20,931 --> 00:26:22,655
And that's what I find
is so frustrating.
533
00:26:22,827 --> 00:26:26,655
I just want you to --
to have a life too.
534
00:26:26,827 --> 00:26:28,896
I want you to succeed too.
535
00:26:29,034 --> 00:26:31,551
I saw what was occurring
in your family.
536
00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:33,896
You're working all these hours
and they just give all
537
00:26:34,034 --> 00:26:37,896
the money to your brother.
-No, that's not true.
538
00:26:38,034 --> 00:26:39,793
The truth is I'm helping
my family
539
00:26:39,965 --> 00:26:42,137
and I'm also
helping Forrest as well.
540
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:44,241
That's all.
541
00:26:44,413 --> 00:26:46,586
OK, well, what's happening
with the brother, Sheena?
542
00:26:46,758 --> 00:26:49,482
Your parents help your brother,
but you have to help
543
00:26:49,655 --> 00:26:52,000
your parents, so your money
is basically going
544
00:26:52,137 --> 00:26:53,103
to help your brother.
545
00:26:53,275 --> 00:26:54,896
-Is that true?
-[Sheena] Um...
546
00:26:57,344 --> 00:26:58,655
Are your parents
helping your brother?
547
00:27:01,896 --> 00:27:04,137
My brother?
No, not so much.
548
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:06,482
I don't understand, like...
549
00:27:06,655 --> 00:27:08,103
It -- it's a "Yes" or "No."
550
00:27:08,275 --> 00:27:11,034
[Elise]
That's a very vague answer
that someone that likes
551
00:27:11,206 --> 00:27:13,482
to manipulate would give,
just to be honest with you.
552
00:27:13,655 --> 00:27:16,000
-True.
-Yes, Sheena.
553
00:27:16,172 --> 00:27:17,379
[Shaun]
What do you mean, Elise?
554
00:27:17,551 --> 00:27:19,586
I mean, like, "not so much."
You could...
555
00:27:19,758 --> 00:27:21,655
It's an easy way out of lying,
I think.
556
00:27:23,344 --> 00:27:26,000
-I'm sorry.
-Damn.
557
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,586
Forrest, you should know how
much money Sheena is sending
558
00:27:30,758 --> 00:27:32,896
her parents, because she was
supposed to be sending
559
00:27:33,034 --> 00:27:36,689
screenshots of her expenses
to you.
560
00:27:36,862 --> 00:27:40,689
-Has she been doing that?
-I haven't asked for them.
561
00:27:43,137 --> 00:27:46,241
Do you think you should send
it to me on your own?
562
00:27:46,413 --> 00:27:47,689
-Like, monthly or?
-[Jovon] Yeah.
563
00:27:47,862 --> 00:27:49,344
[Forrest]
Weekly, like how much
you give your parents?
564
00:27:49,517 --> 00:27:51,413
[Sheena speaking]
565
00:27:53,896 --> 00:27:55,551
No, but with -- without --
without me asking, do you --
566
00:27:55,724 --> 00:27:57,103
do you feel like
you should do that?
567
00:27:57,275 --> 00:27:59,000
Yes, yes...
568
00:27:59,137 --> 00:28:00,344
I just think it’s funny.
569
00:28:00,517 --> 00:28:02,344
I started this thinking
Molly was the problem,
570
00:28:02,517 --> 00:28:04,206
and now I switched to thinking
Sheena's the problem.
571
00:28:04,206 --> 00:28:06,137
-And why do you think so?
-I'm kinda agreeing with Elise,
I agree with Elise.
572
00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:07,655
-[Shaun] Why?
-[Lisa] I agree with Elise, too.
573
00:28:07,655 --> 00:28:09,793
I just feel like there's --
there's lots of little hiccups,
574
00:28:09,965 --> 00:28:12,793
and I wanna say, yes,
it might be a language barrier,
575
00:28:12,965 --> 00:28:17,068
but it also feels
like it might not be.
-[Elise] Yeah.
576
00:28:17,241 --> 00:28:19,379
[Laura] There's something
that doesn't sit quite right.
577
00:28:19,551 --> 00:28:23,689
I feel like it's in Sheena's
nature to -- to not be honest
578
00:28:23,862 --> 00:28:26,379
all the time, but I think
it's coming from a genuine
579
00:28:26,551 --> 00:28:29,965
place, 'cause she was really
afraid of losing Forrest.
580
00:28:30,103 --> 00:28:32,172
-She was trying to please us
both at the same time.
-[Laura and Rick] Yeah.
581
00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:33,724
-Yes, yeah.
-[Laura] It sounds like it.
582
00:28:33,724 --> 00:28:35,275
-And she didn’t know what --
-[Rick] That’s what she said.
583
00:28:35,448 --> 00:28:37,586
You guys are gonna have
to get over this, "I was afraid
584
00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:39,379
to tell you the truth."
-[Forrest] Yeah.
585
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:42,034
-Yeah.
-[Shaun] Because
that is going to be
586
00:28:42,206 --> 00:28:45,034
something that is gonna
chip away at the foundation
587
00:28:45,206 --> 00:28:46,896
of this relationship.
-Yeah.
588
00:28:47,034 --> 00:28:48,758
-[Molly] Sheena?
-Yes, Mom.
589
00:28:48,931 --> 00:28:51,689
[Molly]
I just want to know,
if the day comes,
590
00:28:51,862 --> 00:28:56,275
would you really actually leave
and come over here and stay?
591
00:28:57,896 --> 00:29:01,034
I worry she won't actually
come here.
592
00:29:01,206 --> 00:29:02,482
[Shaun]
Why is that?
593
00:29:02,655 --> 00:29:06,965
Just because I understand
her need to take care
594
00:29:07,103 --> 00:29:10,448
of her family and be there
for her family.
595
00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:12,551
And she won't leave
'cause -- that duty.
596
00:29:18,068 --> 00:29:20,448
But what is your timeline...
597
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:23,758
to actually start this process
of getting the K-1 visa?
598
00:29:23,931 --> 00:29:26,758
Well, since, you know,
Rick and everybody here said
599
00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:29,172
they would give me
additional help,
600
00:29:29,344 --> 00:29:31,103
I -- I would say
601
00:29:31,275 --> 00:29:33,172
I'm -- I'm ready after --
after here.
602
00:29:34,655 --> 00:29:35,896
One step at a time.
603
00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,172
And Sheena will be
on her way over here.
604
00:29:39,344 --> 00:29:41,448
Yes.
I'm ready to do it.
605
00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:42,655
[Shaun] You're ready.
Alright.
606
00:29:42,827 --> 00:29:43,758
-Yeah.
-[Shaun] OK.
607
00:29:44,896 --> 00:29:46,793
Molly, thank you so much.
608
00:29:46,965 --> 00:29:48,586
I know this has been
very difficult for you...
609
00:29:48,758 --> 00:29:51,482
-Yeah.
-...but we appreciate you being
so open and honest with us.
610
00:29:51,655 --> 00:29:53,172
-Thank you for being here.
-[Molly and Emma] Thank you.
611
00:29:53,344 --> 00:29:54,448
-Thank you, Molly.
-[Molly] Thank you.
612
00:29:56,793 --> 00:29:59,793
Forrest and Sheena,
we wish you the best of luck
613
00:29:59,965 --> 00:30:02,275
with your engagement,
and we hope the K-1 visa
614
00:30:02,448 --> 00:30:05,379
process moves ahead
very smoothly.
615
00:30:11,586 --> 00:30:15,586
Alright, now it is time
to focus on Aviva and Stig.
616
00:30:15,758 --> 00:30:19,103
Aviva and Stig's connection
in Belize was strong, but not
617
00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:22,275
long after the proposal,
something caused him to change
618
00:30:22,448 --> 00:30:24,379
his mind,
and we're about to learn
619
00:30:24,551 --> 00:30:26,896
what exactly went wrong.
620
00:30:27,034 --> 00:30:29,482
Now, before we get
to the breakup, I wanna talk
621
00:30:29,655 --> 00:30:32,172
about the start of the trip.
622
00:30:32,344 --> 00:30:34,137
Aviva, you were open to having
623
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:37,655
a child very,
very quickly with Stig.
624
00:30:37,827 --> 00:30:41,586
Why did you feel that way
after just meeting him?
625
00:30:43,448 --> 00:30:46,482
Well, we had talked
on and off for several years.
626
00:30:46,655 --> 00:30:48,172
I don't know, I thought we had
a pretty good relationship
627
00:30:48,344 --> 00:30:52,137
and I don't think I went
into it wanting, like,
628
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:53,896
a baby right away.
629
00:30:54,034 --> 00:30:56,241
However, if it happened,
it happened and I wouldn't have
630
00:30:56,413 --> 00:30:57,862
been upset about it.
631
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,172
[Shaun] So Stig, you hadn't
even said "I love you" to Aviva.
632
00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:07,586
Do you think you were really
ready for a child at that time?
633
00:31:07,758 --> 00:31:08,689
I mean...
634
00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,379
But I did have crazy love
635
00:31:15,551 --> 00:31:18,241
for Aviva and the age
that I'm at, I've already done
636
00:31:18,413 --> 00:31:20,172
all these crazy things
637
00:31:20,344 --> 00:31:21,896
and enjoy being
an artist, you know?
638
00:31:22,034 --> 00:31:26,137
So I was very open to starting
a family and all that.
639
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:27,448
Like, I was genuine about that.
640
00:31:28,482 --> 00:31:30,448
Does anyone else
think it was odd?
641
00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:32,137
-Irresponsible?
-[Lisa] It was
very irresponsible.
642
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:33,620
I think
it's super irresponsible.
643
00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:37,000
Were neither of you worried
about, like, any kind of STDs?
644
00:31:37,137 --> 00:31:40,034
Those can be lifelong,
as well as a child.
645
00:31:40,206 --> 00:31:41,896
Yeah, but we know we don't
have any STDs.
646
00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:43,586
I mean, I wasn't sleeping
around, and I believe that
647
00:31:43,758 --> 00:31:45,137
she wasn't sleeping around,
so we weren’t scared about that.
648
00:31:45,310 --> 00:31:47,000
You believe it,
but you didn't know it.
649
00:31:47,137 --> 00:31:48,275
I mean, aren't you a little bit
650
00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:49,655
worried about your health
and your safety?
651
00:31:49,827 --> 00:31:51,379
Of course, of course.
I agree.
652
00:31:51,551 --> 00:31:53,793
It was irresponsible,
but I don't know.
653
00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:57,034
When you -- when you love
somebody, you love somebody.
654
00:31:57,206 --> 00:31:58,793
I'm pretty -- I'm pretty sure
Stig was sleeping around
655
00:31:58,965 --> 00:32:00,068
with other people.
-[Shaun] Oh.
656
00:32:00,241 --> 00:32:01,896
-[Laura and Emma] Whoa.
-[Laura] Forrest.
657
00:32:02,034 --> 00:32:03,896
I'm -- I'm pretty sure.
658
00:32:04,034 --> 00:32:05,448
Yeah, he can say that,
but he's -- he's a --
659
00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:06,896
he's a player, man.
660
00:32:08,482 --> 00:32:10,482
-[Rick] He's a superstar.
-[Forrest] Yeah,
he's a superstar.
661
00:32:10,655 --> 00:32:12,586
He's got all those women
around him all the time.
662
00:32:14,379 --> 00:32:18,172
[Shaun]
OK, well, before things went
south with Aviva and Stig,
663
00:32:18,344 --> 00:32:20,862
there was a time when it looked
like this relationship was
664
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,551
going to last forever.
665
00:32:22,724 --> 00:32:23,965
-Let's take a look back.
-[gasps]
666
00:32:24,103 --> 00:32:25,379
Oh, God.
667
00:32:26,586 --> 00:32:29,137
I decided to take Aviva
to the Mayan Ruins,
668
00:32:29,310 --> 00:32:31,793
one of Belize's main attraction.
669
00:32:31,965 --> 00:32:34,862
-That's huge.
-Right?
670
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,379
That is so cool.
671
00:32:36,551 --> 00:32:38,172
♪ I’m not sure ♪
672
00:32:38,344 --> 00:32:39,586
[Stig speaking]
673
00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:41,344
-[Aviva] Yes, let's do it.
-[Stig] Let's go.
674
00:32:48,793 --> 00:32:53,655
Maybe you should stop for real.
I wanna tell you something.
675
00:32:57,275 --> 00:32:58,586
Since the first time
I met you, babe,
676
00:32:59,689 --> 00:33:02,172
something just made me feel
like you're the one for real,
677
00:33:02,344 --> 00:33:03,896
and I wanna be with you
for the rest of my life.
678
00:33:05,137 --> 00:33:07,103
-That's so sweet.
-[Stig] So babe.
679
00:33:08,379 --> 00:33:10,137
-Will you marry me?
-Yes.
680
00:33:11,275 --> 00:33:13,103
She said, "Yes!"
681
00:33:13,275 --> 00:33:15,896
♪ Oh-oh-oh-oh ♪
682
00:33:16,034 --> 00:33:17,896
That's so sweet.
683
00:33:21,379 --> 00:33:22,965
[Stig speaking]
684
00:33:26,965 --> 00:33:28,103
[Shaun]
Wow.
685
00:33:28,103 --> 00:33:30,448
Aviva, what were you thinking
watching that back?
686
00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:31,689
It brought you to tears.
687
00:33:33,241 --> 00:33:35,241
Just I don't know.
688
00:33:35,413 --> 00:33:37,655
I wanted it to work out so bad,
I think.
689
00:33:37,827 --> 00:33:38,793
So yeah, it's hard to see.
690
00:33:43,448 --> 00:33:47,689
Stig, when you see Aviva
so emotional watching that clip,
691
00:33:49,068 --> 00:33:50,206
how does that make you feel?
692
00:33:52,448 --> 00:33:55,379
And, you know, I had all
intentions to start a family
693
00:33:55,551 --> 00:33:58,793
with her,
it was genuine.
694
00:33:58,965 --> 00:34:02,379
But now the engagement
is broken off.
695
00:34:02,551 --> 00:34:05,448
-Yeah.
-How did we get to this point?
696
00:34:07,344 --> 00:34:09,068
Um, when I got home,
697
00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:13,241
our relationship
turned really toxic.
698
00:34:13,413 --> 00:34:17,275
There was a lot
of trust issues, and honestly,
699
00:34:17,447 --> 00:34:19,103
Stig, you were [bleep]
mean to me.
700
00:34:21,137 --> 00:34:22,482
Why was I mean to you, though?
701
00:34:22,482 --> 00:34:25,688
Why did I get so triggered that
I wanted to break up with you?
702
00:34:25,862 --> 00:34:27,793
Why was I like that?
703
00:34:27,965 --> 00:34:29,275
-Jesus.
-[Stig] Tell me why.
704
00:34:31,482 --> 00:34:33,620
Look at me right now
and say that you didn't cheat.
705
00:34:36,068 --> 00:34:38,688
I'm like, "Aviva, I hear guys
in the background.
706
00:34:38,862 --> 00:34:39,896
Where are you?"
She hangs up,
707
00:34:40,034 --> 00:34:41,757
and she stopped
answering my calls.
708
00:34:41,931 --> 00:34:44,793
He would go out every [bleep]
night and not answer me,
709
00:34:44,965 --> 00:34:46,896
and that's OK?
710
00:34:47,034 --> 00:34:48,688
He was freaking the [bleep],
711
00:34:48,862 --> 00:34:50,344
"[bleep] you,
[bleep] you bitch!"
712
00:34:50,516 --> 00:34:51,896
You drove me insane!
713
00:34:52,034 --> 00:34:54,000
So it's all Aviva?
It's all her?
714
00:35:02,862 --> 00:35:04,379
Look at me right now
and say that you didn't cheat.
715
00:35:05,379 --> 00:35:07,206
I didn't ever [bleep]
cheat on you.
716
00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:10,689
[Shaun]
OK, wait.
717
00:35:10,862 --> 00:35:12,482
Stig says you cheated, Aviva.
718
00:35:12,655 --> 00:35:15,896
You say you didn't.
How did he get that impression?
719
00:35:16,034 --> 00:35:19,000
Well, I was in Belize right
after all the Aunt Spring drama.
720
00:35:19,172 --> 00:35:22,793
Somebody texted me and said,
"That guy is never gonna love
721
00:35:22,965 --> 00:35:24,482
you like --like I would."
722
00:35:24,655 --> 00:35:26,793
And then I replied and I said,
"Yeah, you're right."
723
00:35:26,965 --> 00:35:28,862
'Cause that's how I felt
in that moment.
724
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,137
And he went through my phone
and he saw that.
725
00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:34,379
And that's as far as it went.
And so, yeah, absolutely.
726
00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:35,620
I replied to that text.
727
00:35:35,620 --> 00:35:37,344
I shouldn't have,
especially being in Belize.
728
00:35:37,517 --> 00:35:40,793
That was very disrespectful
of me, but.
729
00:35:43,241 --> 00:35:44,793
...got caught talking
to other men.
730
00:35:44,965 --> 00:35:46,862
-No.
-Multiple times.
731
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,379
I'm not gonna ever be OK
with being in a relationship,
732
00:35:49,551 --> 00:35:51,689
especially engaged to somebody,
and you're hanging
733
00:35:51,862 --> 00:35:52,896
around guys.
-I'm not.
734
00:35:53,034 --> 00:35:54,793
I wasn't hanging around guys.
735
00:35:54,965 --> 00:35:57,482
Stig, what are you talking
about when you say she was
736
00:35:57,655 --> 00:35:59,241
hanging around guys?
What do you mean?
737
00:35:59,413 --> 00:36:00,620
[Stig]
Multiple times.
738
00:36:00,620 --> 00:36:04,379
Like, one time, Aviva told me
that she wanted to go
739
00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:05,758
to Mexico for the weekend.
740
00:36:05,931 --> 00:36:08,862
She said, "I'm gonna go
to an all-inclusive resort.
741
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,034
I'm gonna go to the pool,
read a book, have a good time."
742
00:36:12,206 --> 00:36:13,517
-Cool.
-Mm-hmm.
743
00:36:13,517 --> 00:36:15,241
I get that she's trying to have
a good day, I'm busy, too.
744
00:36:15,413 --> 00:36:17,172
But she's barely answering me.
Any at all.
745
00:36:17,344 --> 00:36:19,379
-Boom, I go on Instagram --
-Sucks, doesn't it?
746
00:36:19,551 --> 00:36:20,896
[Stig]
Go on Instagram.
747
00:36:21,034 --> 00:36:23,034
And Aviva is at a pool party.
748
00:36:23,206 --> 00:36:25,344
And her best friend
posted a video.
749
00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:26,965
And they're obviously
in a section
750
00:36:27,103 --> 00:36:28,068
with a bunch of guys.
751
00:36:28,241 --> 00:36:30,344
I call Aviva.
She answers.
752
00:36:30,517 --> 00:36:32,793
I'm like, "Aviva, I hear guys
in the background.
753
00:36:32,965 --> 00:36:34,862
Where are you?"
She's like, "No."
754
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,448
I'm like, "Show me."
She hangs up.
755
00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:37,758
And she stopped
answering my calls.
756
00:36:37,931 --> 00:36:39,793
And I told her,
"I don't wanna be with you.
757
00:36:39,965 --> 00:36:40,896
I'm done with this."
758
00:36:42,275 --> 00:36:43,482
[Aviva]
I was at a [bleep] party.
759
00:36:44,896 --> 00:36:46,793
He would go out
every [bleep] night
760
00:36:46,965 --> 00:36:48,896
and not answer me,
and that's OK.
761
00:36:49,034 --> 00:36:50,172
And I was supposed
to believe you.
762
00:36:50,344 --> 00:36:51,965
And then the one time I go
to a pool party,
763
00:36:52,103 --> 00:36:54,448
it's a huge [bleep] deal.
764
00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:56,172
Like, why were you
allowed to do
765
00:36:56,344 --> 00:36:57,758
whatever
the [bleep] you wanted
766
00:36:57,931 --> 00:37:00,172
but I couldn't even
look out the window without it
767
00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:01,689
being a [bleep] problem?
768
00:37:01,862 --> 00:37:04,068
I went to dinner with
my coworker, who's a female,
769
00:37:04,241 --> 00:37:06,172
and he's freaking
the [bleep],
770
00:37:06,344 --> 00:37:07,793
"[bleep] you,
[bleep] you, bitch.
771
00:37:07,965 --> 00:37:09,586
What the [bleep]?
Why aren't you responding,
blah, blah."
772
00:37:09,758 --> 00:37:12,758
And sorry, I'm sorry,
but that's how you'd
773
00:37:12,931 --> 00:37:14,758
talk to me, I know you
wanna defend yourself.
-[Stig] I do not talk
774
00:37:14,931 --> 00:37:16,275
to you like that.
-But that's how you speak to me.
775
00:37:16,448 --> 00:37:18,448
That point -- at that point,
I did not talk to you like that.
776
00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:21,758
-I remember --
-You shouldn't say
those things to her at all.
777
00:37:21,931 --> 00:37:24,724
-Ever.
-[Forrest] Never.
778
00:37:27,172 --> 00:37:29,068
For going to dinner?
779
00:37:29,241 --> 00:37:31,448
While I was at dinner with
a friend and you were saying
780
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:33,275
"[bleep] this, [bleep] you,"
where were you?
781
00:37:33,448 --> 00:37:35,068
You were at a bar!
782
00:37:35,241 --> 00:37:36,517
So make it make sense.
783
00:37:36,517 --> 00:37:39,172
Your double standards don't
make sense, and it drove me
784
00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:42,689
insane every day.
-'Cause you drove me insane.
785
00:37:42,862 --> 00:37:44,793
When you were out,
I was thinking the worst.
786
00:37:44,965 --> 00:37:46,586
All I've heard is that
Aviva's a cheater,
787
00:37:46,758 --> 00:37:48,551
but nothing from you.
788
00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:49,931
You know?
Where -- where's your --
789
00:37:49,931 --> 00:37:51,275
where's your defense that
you weren't meeting up with
790
00:37:51,448 --> 00:37:53,068
other women?
-Yeah, so it's all Aviva?
791
00:37:53,241 --> 00:37:54,896
It's all her?
792
00:37:55,034 --> 00:37:58,344
Honestly, Stig, me and Aviva
have become really good friends.
793
00:37:58,517 --> 00:38:00,344
She told me everything that
happened when she got back from
794
00:38:00,517 --> 00:38:03,655
Belize, how you treated her,
how you disrespected her,
795
00:38:03,827 --> 00:38:05,172
how you're controlling.
796
00:38:05,172 --> 00:38:07,586
And honestly, I think she's way
too good for you, and you were
797
00:38:07,758 --> 00:38:08,896
a real piece of [bleep] to her.
798
00:38:09,034 --> 00:38:11,551
Well, I don't agree with you,
so that's that.
799
00:38:17,034 --> 00:38:19,689
Alright, there are two
people in Aviva's life who had
800
00:38:19,862 --> 00:38:22,758
a lot of thoughts on Stig
and Aviva's relationship.
801
00:38:22,931 --> 00:38:26,103
Please welcome Aviva's aunt,
Spring, and Corinth.
802
00:38:28,068 --> 00:38:30,689
-Hi, ladies, how are you?
-Hi.
803
00:38:30,862 --> 00:38:34,862
Spring, as you look back on
Aviva and Stig's relationship,
804
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,172
how do you feel about it today?
805
00:38:37,344 --> 00:38:40,793
When I had left Belize, I was
actually totally supportive
806
00:38:40,965 --> 00:38:44,482
of the situation, but then
I've been getting messages about
807
00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:46,275
who he's been
messing with down there.
808
00:38:46,448 --> 00:38:47,344
Oh, pff.
809
00:38:47,517 --> 00:38:49,068
[Spring]
So the girl from the video,
810
00:38:50,275 --> 00:38:51,344
you were with her.
811
00:38:52,482 --> 00:38:53,896
-[Aviva] Yeah, so --
-I was with her?
812
00:38:54,034 --> 00:38:57,655
Yes, he filmed a -- he filmed
music video with a girl,
813
00:38:57,827 --> 00:38:59,241
and he went ghost on me
814
00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:01,586
after the music video.
Like, what the [bleep]?
815
00:39:01,758 --> 00:39:04,655
Like, how am I supposed to know
that you didn't do [bleep]?
816
00:39:04,827 --> 00:39:06,689
That did not happen.
817
00:39:09,137 --> 00:39:11,000
From what I can see, you know,
818
00:39:12,275 --> 00:39:14,862
there's a lot of accusations
flying around with no real
819
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,862
solid proof, right?
-[Elise and Annalyn] Yeah.
820
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,379
Yeah, I agree with that.
821
00:39:19,551 --> 00:39:24,275
Stig, you can't keep saying that
this one is a fan or this one
822
00:39:24,448 --> 00:39:28,793
knows you, this one just
want clout off of you.
823
00:39:28,965 --> 00:39:31,275
I'm trying to figure out
if you're the one trying to get
824
00:39:31,448 --> 00:39:32,896
clout off of Aviva.
825
00:39:33,034 --> 00:39:34,862
Are you trying to move
to the States so you get better
826
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,068
music opportunities
through Aviva because you're
827
00:39:38,241 --> 00:39:39,586
in the States?
828
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,862
Corinth really questions
Stig's commitment to Aviva.
829
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,137
And in this never-before-seen
interview, she gives us
830
00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:56,896
her reason for not trusting him.
831
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,448
I think that Aviva is probably
832
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:03,655
blindsided
by love or something.
833
00:40:03,827 --> 00:40:07,172
Like, she is just too deep
in the blue hole that she's not
834
00:40:07,344 --> 00:40:09,241
actually seeing
what he's doing.
835
00:40:09,413 --> 00:40:11,241
He is just around.
He's been around.
836
00:40:11,413 --> 00:40:12,793
He has a Spanish girl.
837
00:40:12,965 --> 00:40:15,172
He has girls pregnant
all around.
838
00:40:15,344 --> 00:40:16,655
He needs to focus.
839
00:40:18,448 --> 00:40:20,586
Yes, he does.
840
00:40:20,758 --> 00:40:24,000
I know for a fact that he has
more than one girl pregnant
841
00:40:24,137 --> 00:40:25,793
right now.
-Oh.
842
00:40:25,965 --> 00:40:27,344
Oh, my gosh.
843
00:40:27,517 --> 00:40:29,655
-[Shaun] OK.
-What?
844
00:40:31,482 --> 00:40:36,172
[Shaun]
So Stig, Corinth just said
that you have more than one
845
00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:39,379
girl pregnant.
Is there any truth to that?
846
00:40:47,448 --> 00:40:49,379
How do you think that went
with Molly and Forrest?
847
00:40:49,551 --> 00:40:52,275
-I think it's a cluster
[bleep], I, like --
-[Laura speaking]
848
00:40:52,448 --> 00:40:56,379
The more I listened,
the more I think
849
00:40:56,551 --> 00:40:58,379
Sheena is a liar.
850
00:40:58,551 --> 00:41:02,482
You guys are seeing exactly
why I've questioned everything.
851
00:41:02,655 --> 00:41:04,379
I hope she's telling
the truth, Forrest.
852
00:41:04,551 --> 00:41:05,482
She's hiding something.
853
00:41:14,344 --> 00:41:18,137
OK, Stig,
Corinth just said that
854
00:41:18,310 --> 00:41:20,896
you have more than one
girl pregnant.
855
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,586
No.
856
00:41:26,758 --> 00:41:28,448
No.
857
00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:32,000
-That is an out-and-out lie.
-Yeah.
858
00:41:35,172 --> 00:41:37,758
Everything he says is a lie.
859
00:41:37,931 --> 00:41:41,482
You know, Belize is a small
country, and people talk.
860
00:41:41,655 --> 00:41:45,000
How I found out about it is
because he was messing
861
00:41:45,172 --> 00:41:47,793
with my friend, and he told
my friend about the girl.
862
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000
And he also said that there
863
00:41:53,137 --> 00:41:55,379
could be another girl
that was pregnant.
864
00:41:59,068 --> 00:42:02,241
And there were also rumors
that he already currently
865
00:42:02,413 --> 00:42:04,551
had a child already.
866
00:42:05,689 --> 00:42:08,344
-[Shaun] Stig?
-But can I -- can I --
can I say something?
867
00:42:08,517 --> 00:42:09,896
[Shaun]
Yeah, go ahead, Stig, go ahead.
868
00:42:10,034 --> 00:42:12,689
Listen, bro, I did not
grow up with my dad, right?
869
00:42:12,862 --> 00:42:15,103
I can't wait till the day
I become a dad, 'cause I wanna
870
00:42:15,275 --> 00:42:17,896
be the best dad
that I could possibly be.
871
00:42:18,034 --> 00:42:21,172
So no, if I was a dad, I would
have been the best father
872
00:42:21,344 --> 00:42:22,413
that I could ever be.
873
00:42:22,413 --> 00:42:23,827
So don't be playing
with my name like that.
874
00:42:26,275 --> 00:42:29,241
Aviva, do you believe
Stig or Corinth?
875
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,034
I don't know.
876
00:42:34,034 --> 00:42:36,482
I -- I think if he had a kid,
we would know.
877
00:42:36,655 --> 00:42:39,137
Do I believe he was maybe
messing with a girl?
878
00:42:39,310 --> 00:42:40,241
Yes.
879
00:42:40,413 --> 00:42:42,000
But do I believe that
he has a kid?
880
00:42:42,172 --> 00:42:43,448
No.
881
00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:48,793
OK, Aunt Spring and Corinth,
thank you for taking the time
882
00:42:48,965 --> 00:42:51,068
to speak with us today.
We really appreciate it.
883
00:42:51,241 --> 00:42:52,793
Yeah, thank you.
Love you, niece.
884
00:42:52,965 --> 00:42:54,862
-Love you.
-[Corinth] Love you, Aviva.
885
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,586
-[Spring] Bye.
-[Shaun] Alright.
886
00:42:57,758 --> 00:43:00,448
Well, Aviva and Stig,
we're sorry that you weren't
887
00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:02,137
able to work things out.
888
00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:04,068
Best wishes for the future
to both of you.
889
00:43:07,758 --> 00:43:08,827
OK, everybody.
890
00:43:08,827 --> 00:43:10,379
That was tough,
but let's take a quick break
891
00:43:10,551 --> 00:43:11,655
and I'll see you
back here shortly.
892
00:43:13,586 --> 00:43:14,655
[sighs]
893
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,758
I take accountability for it.
894
00:43:22,931 --> 00:43:24,896
Then he doesn't take any.
Like, I don't understand.
895
00:43:26,068 --> 00:43:27,482
-Do I not take accountability?
-Yes.
896
00:43:27,655 --> 00:43:29,689
He didn't own up to,
like, literally anything.
897
00:43:29,862 --> 00:43:30,862
[Emma]
You did amazing.
898
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,275
[Rick]
You did good.
899
00:43:37,551 --> 00:43:41,482
I really wanted to, you know,
throw myself at -- at Stig.
900
00:43:41,655 --> 00:43:44,689
I think he's full-on lying
the entire time
901
00:43:44,862 --> 00:43:46,068
about everything with Aviva.
902
00:43:46,068 --> 00:43:49,551
Yeah, I think it's near
impossible to be a faithful
903
00:43:49,724 --> 00:43:50,896
rap star.
-Nah.
904
00:43:50,896 --> 00:43:52,758
You know, 'cause you're gonna
have women throwing
905
00:43:52,931 --> 00:43:55,655
themselves at you,
all in your DMs.
906
00:43:55,827 --> 00:43:56,896
You know what?
I've decided.
907
00:43:57,034 --> 00:43:58,551
I'm gonna become
a famous rap star.
908
00:43:58,724 --> 00:44:00,241
[laughing]
909
00:44:00,413 --> 00:44:01,689
Thank you.
910
00:44:01,862 --> 00:44:03,586
How do you think that went
with Molly and Forrest?
911
00:44:03,758 --> 00:44:06,448
-I think it's a cluster
[bleep] I, like --
-[Laura speaking]
912
00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:08,000
I just, like, I don't think
913
00:44:08,137 --> 00:44:09,310
Sheena's being
completely honest.
914
00:44:09,482 --> 00:44:12,172
And I think that Molly
attacking Sheena makes Sheena
915
00:44:12,344 --> 00:44:14,241
more prone to lie a little
bit more.
916
00:44:14,413 --> 00:44:16,137
I do not see her coming
to the States.
917
00:44:17,689 --> 00:44:22,793
The more I listened,
the more I think Sheena
918
00:44:22,965 --> 00:44:25,172
is a liar.
And poor Forrest.
919
00:44:25,344 --> 00:44:26,689
I just wanna give him a hug
and be like,
920
00:44:26,862 --> 00:44:28,379
"That [bleep] sucks."
921
00:44:28,551 --> 00:44:29,689
Hey.
922
00:44:29,862 --> 00:44:31,275
-[Forrest] Hey, Mom.
-Wait a minute.
923
00:44:31,448 --> 00:44:33,379
You did so good.
I'm so proud of you.
924
00:44:33,551 --> 00:44:35,793
But I hope she's telling
the truth, Forrest.
925
00:44:35,965 --> 00:44:37,000
-Hey, hello, how are you doing?
-Hi, Forrest.
926
00:44:37,137 --> 00:44:39,000
-I'm gonna interrupt you.
-Go for it.
927
00:44:39,172 --> 00:44:40,586
I wanna talk to Molly.
928
00:44:40,758 --> 00:44:42,482
Molly, I'm sorry
I was so against you.
929
00:44:42,655 --> 00:44:45,586
I came here ready to scream
and yell and stomp my feet
930
00:44:45,758 --> 00:44:49,482
and tell you what a bad mom you
are, but you're not, you're not.
931
00:44:49,655 --> 00:44:52,275
I didn't understand how
you were coming after Sheena.
932
00:44:52,448 --> 00:44:54,862
And then all of a sudden,
I started watching,
933
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,689
and I started seeing things,
and she's hiding something.
934
00:44:57,862 --> 00:44:59,137
[Molly]
Thank you.
935
00:44:59,310 --> 00:45:01,758
Yeah, you guys are
seeing exactly why
936
00:45:01,931 --> 00:45:03,379
I've questioned everything.
937
00:45:03,551 --> 00:45:06,275
Yes, and you and Sheena are
so perfect together, and I love
938
00:45:06,448 --> 00:45:08,172
the love that you have,
and it's genuine,
939
00:45:08,344 --> 00:45:10,586
and it's true, and I see it
going forever.
940
00:45:10,758 --> 00:45:13,034
But just make sure you get
all that information.
941
00:45:13,206 --> 00:45:15,896
Oh, my God.
What do I do?
942
00:45:16,034 --> 00:45:17,758
Lisa just got -- getting closer.
943
00:45:17,931 --> 00:45:19,206
And my mom just kept
getting closer.
944
00:45:19,206 --> 00:45:23,344
I'm like, I felt like I was
kind of pushed into a corner,
945
00:45:23,517 --> 00:45:26,241
but has not really put a damper
on how I feel about Sheena.
946
00:45:26,413 --> 00:45:27,689
I'm nosy, Forrest.
947
00:45:32,379 --> 00:45:33,655
-[Forrest] I'll see
you later, Mom.
-[Molly] OK.
948
00:45:33,827 --> 00:45:35,793
-I love you, son.
-I love you, alright, bye.
949
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,482
-Thank you, thank you.
-[producer] Quiet, please.
950
00:45:39,655 --> 00:45:42,344
Lighting up.
Three, two.
951
00:45:44,344 --> 00:45:47,896
[Shaun]
Alright, Elise and Joshua,
it is your turn.
952
00:45:48,034 --> 00:45:52,068
Elise's trip to Australia
was a mixed bag of good times
953
00:45:52,241 --> 00:45:54,689
and the issues they confronted
along the way.
954
00:45:54,862 --> 00:45:56,172
Let's find out the details
955
00:45:56,344 --> 00:45:58,275
of what has happened
since we last saw them.
956
00:45:58,448 --> 00:46:00,689
Elise and Joshua,
shall we get moving?
957
00:46:00,862 --> 00:46:02,586
-Let's do it.
-[Shaun] Alright.
958
00:46:02,758 --> 00:46:05,482
We know about the breakup,
but we also know
959
00:46:05,655 --> 00:46:09,275
about the reconciliation.
How did it happen?
960
00:46:09,448 --> 00:46:12,896
We had a really bad last night
together because everything
961
00:46:13,034 --> 00:46:17,586
in his life at the time
was a question mark.
962
00:46:17,758 --> 00:46:20,896
Yeah, you know, Elise said,
you know, she wasn't ready
963
00:46:21,034 --> 00:46:23,896
to settle, and then she got
on an airplane.
964
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,448
But, like, I sort of realized
that she was, you know,
965
00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:29,275
she's definitely worth
fighting for, and, you know,
966
00:46:29,448 --> 00:46:32,379
what she wanted I could do,
and I bit the bullet and,
967
00:46:32,551 --> 00:46:34,689
you know, and reached out
and just sort of said,
968
00:46:34,862 --> 00:46:37,689
"You know,
I wanna make it work."
969
00:46:37,862 --> 00:46:40,172
[Elise]
He has changed
970
00:46:41,344 --> 00:46:45,034
and made so much effort.
Like...
971
00:46:45,206 --> 00:46:47,103
I've never seen before.
-Wow.
972
00:46:47,275 --> 00:46:50,068
[Elise] He got a new job,
a better job with a salary.
973
00:46:50,241 --> 00:46:53,275
He stopped partying.
We share locations.
974
00:46:53,448 --> 00:46:56,103
He's not living
with the girl Nat anymore.
975
00:46:56,275 --> 00:46:59,241
Every question mark that I had
leaving Australia, I now have
976
00:46:59,413 --> 00:47:01,172
an answer to.
He's like, "I love you.
977
00:47:01,344 --> 00:47:03,137
"I can't lose you.
I'm gonna make it right.
978
00:47:03,310 --> 00:47:04,655
I'm gonna do what it takes."
And I was like,
979
00:47:04,827 --> 00:47:06,965
I love you too.
I miss you too."
980
00:47:07,103 --> 00:47:08,793
[Shaun]
Wait, so you finally said
981
00:47:08,965 --> 00:47:10,586
"I love you" back?
-Yeah.
982
00:47:10,758 --> 00:47:11,689
[gasps]
983
00:47:12,896 --> 00:47:14,689
And then he spent
two and a half weeks
984
00:47:14,862 --> 00:47:17,689
in Miami with me.
-And how did it go?
985
00:47:17,862 --> 00:47:19,758
Amazing.
986
00:47:19,931 --> 00:47:20,827
[Joshua]
Yeah, it went amazing.
987
00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:23,862
We got tattoos
of each other's names.
988
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,241
-You did?
-[Shaun] You did?
Where are they, can I see?
989
00:47:26,413 --> 00:47:27,344
Babe, show yours.
990
00:47:29,137 --> 00:47:30,482
-[Shaun] OK.
-[Laura] Wow.
991
00:47:30,655 --> 00:47:32,586
-And mine is --
-[Shaun] Can you
help her, Forrest?
992
00:47:32,758 --> 00:47:33,793
-[Elise] Thank you, Forrest.
-[Forrest] Yeah, no problem.
993
00:47:33,965 --> 00:47:35,000
[Shaun]
Thank you.
994
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,379
[Forrest]
Good job, Josh.
I'm proud of you.
995
00:47:36,551 --> 00:47:37,896
-[Laura] So cute.
-[Lisa] I love this.
996
00:47:38,034 --> 00:47:39,344
[Shaun]
Very sweet, OK.
997
00:47:40,758 --> 00:47:44,379
Elise struggled with how much it
felt like Joshua's friend Chris
998
00:47:44,551 --> 00:47:47,068
was a third wheel
in their relationship.
999
00:47:47,241 --> 00:47:49,862
So it's only fitting
that we have Chris here to join
1000
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,379
the conversation now.
1001
00:47:51,551 --> 00:47:53,068
-Hi there.
-[Chris chuckles]
1002
00:47:53,241 --> 00:47:55,379
-[Elise] Hi, hi.
-[Chris] Hello, Josh, Elise.
1003
00:47:55,551 --> 00:47:57,482
[Shaun] Thank you
so much for joining us.
1004
00:47:57,655 --> 00:48:01,655
Elise, you were surprised
at how much Chris was involved
1005
00:48:01,827 --> 00:48:04,344
in Joshua's life.
Do you think they're too close?
1006
00:48:05,896 --> 00:48:08,379
I mean, like, yeah, was it
weird that Chris picked me up
1007
00:48:08,551 --> 00:48:10,862
at the airport with Josh?
Yeah, it's [bleep] weird.
1008
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,965
Yeah, when I'm getting [bleep]
by Josh in bed,
1009
00:48:13,103 --> 00:48:16,000
is your picture above my bed?
Yeah, that's weird.
1010
00:48:16,172 --> 00:48:19,379
-[Lisa] Look, he's loving it,
he’s laughing, he loves it.
-[Laura] Yeah, no, that's weird.
1011
00:48:19,551 --> 00:48:22,034
I mean, where I'm from,
like, it's not normal for two
1012
00:48:22,206 --> 00:48:24,965
dudes that are grown-ass men
to live together.
1013
00:48:25,103 --> 00:48:26,586
Or have portraits
of each other.
1014
00:48:26,758 --> 00:48:28,344
[Elise]
Or have portraits
of each other.
1015
00:48:28,517 --> 00:48:33,000
[Shaun]
Well, Chris, we saw Elise make
some demands the night that
1016
00:48:33,137 --> 00:48:35,275
she settled into the rental.
1017
00:48:35,448 --> 00:48:37,172
Do you think that she has
1018
00:48:37,344 --> 00:48:40,586
standards that are
actually too high?
1019
00:48:40,758 --> 00:48:43,000
She's high-maintenance,
but, I mean, we saw
1020
00:48:43,137 --> 00:48:44,482
that coming.
It was to be expected.
1021
00:48:44,655 --> 00:48:45,724
High-maintenance?
1022
00:48:45,724 --> 00:48:48,448
We didn't have
a [bleep] toilet that worked.
1023
00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:49,758
[Joshua]
What, it didn't flush?
1024
00:48:49,931 --> 00:48:52,586
No, it, like,
you couldn't even sit on it.
1025
00:48:52,758 --> 00:48:54,344
-Oh, it wobbled a bit.
-[Elise] Yeah, it did.
1026
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,965
-Thanks, Chris.
-[Forrest] Wow.
1027
00:49:01,103 --> 00:49:03,241
[Lisa]
Elise, you know how I told
you when we first met,
1028
00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:04,896
I was like, "I don't like you."
-[Elise] Yeah.
1029
00:49:05,034 --> 00:49:06,689
[Lisa] And the reason why
I didn't like you was because
1030
00:49:06,862 --> 00:49:09,344
your standards were so high.
1031
00:49:09,517 --> 00:49:12,448
-What [bleep] standards?
-[Lisa] And you intimidate --
you intimidated me.
1032
00:49:12,620 --> 00:49:14,482
But I think when you went there,
you called it a --
1033
00:49:14,655 --> 00:49:16,448
a third-world country.
-[Elise] I did.
1034
00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:18,448
[Lisa]
And I'm sitting there --
I'm sitting there thinking,
1035
00:49:18,620 --> 00:49:20,379
what is wrong with you?
I went to Nigeria,
1036
00:49:20,551 --> 00:49:23,586
and I didn't even have
a toilet seat to sit on --
you're squatting.
1037
00:49:23,758 --> 00:49:25,068
I just thought, you know,
this person is
1038
00:49:25,241 --> 00:49:26,482
high-maintenance,
like Josh said.
1039
00:49:28,137 --> 00:49:30,896
OK, alright, now that
you two are back together,
1040
00:49:31,034 --> 00:49:33,586
Elise, let me ask you,
are you confident
1041
00:49:33,758 --> 00:49:36,482
that Josh will be able
to contribute
1042
00:49:36,655 --> 00:49:40,551
financially to this
relationship in the future?
1043
00:49:41,586 --> 00:49:44,137
I mean, that is
a huge worry of mine.
1044
00:49:44,310 --> 00:49:48,103
But actually, Josh, tell them
what you just did the other day.
1045
00:49:48,275 --> 00:49:50,275
-What did I do the other day?
-Really?
1046
00:49:54,586 --> 00:49:56,655
Oh, uh, I bought you
a ticket to Australia.
1047
00:49:56,827 --> 00:49:58,137
[Elise]
So he bought me
a ticket to Australia.
1048
00:49:58,310 --> 00:50:01,551
-Oh, that's awesome!
-And I am going, like, one way.
1049
00:50:01,724 --> 00:50:03,758
-Just one way?
-Yeah, crazy.
1050
00:50:03,931 --> 00:50:05,241
-[Aviva] Wow!
-Oh, wow.
1051
00:50:05,413 --> 00:50:08,586
He's moving out of Sydney
closer to be with his son.
1052
00:50:08,758 --> 00:50:10,862
-[Shaun] OK.
-[Elise] So I'm gonna
be staying with him.
1053
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,896
And then we'll see.
1054
00:50:13,034 --> 00:50:14,896
Are you moving over here
for good, Elise?
1055
00:50:16,379 --> 00:50:18,000
Chris, I have
a one-way ticket.
1056
00:50:18,172 --> 00:50:19,379
Yeah, but I thought that was
1057
00:50:19,379 --> 00:50:20,862
just 'cause you didn't know
when you were going home.
1058
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,689
Are you actually coming
over here to stay permanently
1059
00:50:22,862 --> 00:50:24,137
with Josh?
-Oh.
1060
00:50:25,586 --> 00:50:27,965
[tense music playing]
1061
00:50:28,103 --> 00:50:29,379
Oh.
1062
00:50:31,655 --> 00:50:33,379
Josh?
1063
00:50:35,862 --> 00:50:38,379
[Shaun] So Nat, you called
Elise a psycho.
1064
00:50:38,551 --> 00:50:40,689
Do you stand by
those words today?
1065
00:50:40,862 --> 00:50:44,896
It was warranted.
The behavior was erratic.
1066
00:50:45,034 --> 00:50:46,000
Girl, come on.
1067
00:50:48,379 --> 00:50:49,448
[Elise]
Josh, you're pretty quiet.
1068
00:50:57,206 --> 00:50:59,586
[Shaun]
So Josh, is Elise moving
there permanently?
1069
00:51:03,482 --> 00:51:05,758
Oh, absolutely.
Like, that's the plan.
1070
00:51:05,931 --> 00:51:07,482
Oh, that's awesome.
1071
00:51:07,655 --> 00:51:10,379
That means I'm gonna come up
and visit you every two weeks.
1072
00:51:10,551 --> 00:51:11,896
I just need to find
a girl to bring,
1073
00:51:12,034 --> 00:51:14,793
so I'm not third-wheeling.
-Chris, I'll come with you.
1074
00:51:16,586 --> 00:51:18,241
You what?
Who said that?
1075
00:51:18,413 --> 00:51:20,689
-Me.
-Oh, she can come, yeah.
1076
00:51:23,103 --> 00:51:25,068
Josh, fly her in to you, too.
1077
00:51:27,551 --> 00:51:30,586
[Shaun]
OK, Elise, you sound excited
to go back to Australia,
1078
00:51:30,758 --> 00:51:33,448
but your first trip
didn't go that smoothly.
1079
00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:36,137
And things really went south
when Elise discovered
1080
00:51:36,310 --> 00:51:40,482
who Joshua was living with.
Please welcome his friend Nat.
1081
00:51:40,655 --> 00:51:43,000
-Hi.
-[Elise] Hi.
1082
00:51:43,172 --> 00:51:46,379
Nat, what do you have to say
to people who think that
1083
00:51:46,551 --> 00:51:50,896
you and Josh have too close
of a relationship?
1084
00:51:52,758 --> 00:51:54,896
I couldn't really care less,
to be honest.
1085
00:51:55,034 --> 00:51:55,965
I've got a lot of guy friends.
1086
00:51:56,103 --> 00:51:58,103
I've got a lot of friends
in general.
1087
00:51:58,275 --> 00:52:00,000
But I see Josh as a brother.
You know,
1088
00:52:00,206 --> 00:52:02,586
I went through a pretty rough
time last year.
1089
00:52:04,793 --> 00:52:07,689
And he was there for me
as I was there for him, so...
1090
00:52:09,344 --> 00:52:11,517
[Shaun]
So Elise, your issue
1091
00:52:11,689 --> 00:52:14,551
was that he lied
in the beginning.
1092
00:52:14,724 --> 00:52:16,482
-About a lot.
-[Shaun] Yeah.
1093
00:52:16,655 --> 00:52:20,379
-Nat, do you think that Josh
misled Elise in any way?
-[Elise] Yeah.
1094
00:52:22,862 --> 00:52:23,862
No.
1095
00:52:25,862 --> 00:52:27,344
Girl, come on.
1096
00:52:29,379 --> 00:52:32,586
[Shaun]
OK, well, when Elise found out
that Josh was living with Nat
1097
00:52:32,758 --> 00:52:33,896
instead of his parents,
1098
00:52:34,034 --> 00:52:36,137
she did not
hold back her feelings.
1099
00:52:36,310 --> 00:52:38,000
Take a look.
1100
00:52:38,137 --> 00:52:40,241
[Elise]
I don't wanna [bleep] think of
my man living with another girl.
1101
00:52:40,413 --> 00:52:42,137
Do you want me to go ask
every single person here?
1102
00:52:42,310 --> 00:52:43,448
-[Nat] No, no, no.
-[Elise] 'Cause I will.
1103
00:52:43,448 --> 00:52:44,758
[Joshua] I wouldn't, it'd be
embarrassing to you.
1104
00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:46,344
-[Nat] Yeah.
-I don't give a [bleep].
1105
00:52:47,896 --> 00:52:50,482
Hey guys,
let me ask you guys
1106
00:52:50,655 --> 00:52:53,689
all a [bleep] question.
Am I crazy...
1107
00:52:53,862 --> 00:52:57,000
-Go Elise.
-...or is my guy living with
a girl and getting financially
1108
00:52:57,137 --> 00:52:58,586
[bleep] supported crazy?
1109
00:52:58,758 --> 00:53:00,068
[woman speaking]
1110
00:53:00,068 --> 00:53:02,000
[Elise]
No, he [bleep] lied to me.
1111
00:53:04,413 --> 00:53:05,482
[Elise]
Thank you.
1112
00:53:05,482 --> 00:53:08,034
-Do you feel crazy now?
-[Elise] I could be.
1113
00:53:08,206 --> 00:53:09,758
-Like...
-[Elise] Yeah, but I'm -- I'm --
1114
00:53:09,758 --> 00:53:11,172
I'm having two against one.
-[Joshua] You’re
telling half the story.
1115
00:53:11,344 --> 00:53:14,517
-What the [bleep]
am I supposed to do?
-[Nat] You're not --
1116
00:53:14,689 --> 00:53:17,068
[Elise]
So give us your story,
you're here.
1117
00:53:17,241 --> 00:53:18,206
[Nat speaking]
1118
00:53:24,517 --> 00:53:26,551
-[Laura] Oh.
-[Shaun] Whoa, OK.
1119
00:53:26,724 --> 00:53:29,448
I’m happy I wasn't there,
you know.
1120
00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:32,793
[Shaun]
OK, so Nat, you called
Elise a psycho.
1121
00:53:32,965 --> 00:53:34,413
Yes.
1122
00:53:34,586 --> 00:53:37,103
Do you stand by
those words today?
1123
00:53:39,586 --> 00:53:42,413
I stand by the psycho word,
and I'm laughing now because
1124
00:53:47,413 --> 00:53:49,310
You -- you stood
by calling her psycho?
1125
00:53:49,482 --> 00:53:51,758
Yeah.
The behavior was erratic.
1126
00:53:51,931 --> 00:53:54,103
So at the time,
it was warranted.
1127
00:53:58,689 --> 00:54:01,000
[Elise]
Josh, you're pretty quiet.
So why don't you speak?
1128
00:54:03,344 --> 00:54:05,448
You know, I felt like
the bigger issue was that
1129
00:54:05,620 --> 00:54:07,275
you were, you know,
you were a bit jealous
1130
00:54:07,448 --> 00:54:08,965
of our relationship,
and I have --
I have apologized --
1131
00:54:09,103 --> 00:54:11,758
Well, it started off
in the wrong foot,
getting lied to.
1132
00:54:11,931 --> 00:54:14,068
So therefore, of course
I'm gonna feel uncomfortable.
1133
00:54:14,241 --> 00:54:15,655
-Would you guys feel that way?
-I would, 100%.
1134
00:54:15,827 --> 00:54:16,965
-I’d feel uncomfortable.
-Yeah, I would.
1135
00:54:17,103 --> 00:54:18,620
Elise, Elise,
you have every reason.
1136
00:54:18,620 --> 00:54:20,103
-[Emma] You didn't feel secure.
-You have every
right to be angry.
1137
00:54:20,275 --> 00:54:23,655
I think if I found out that
my guy was living with a girl,
1138
00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:25,482
like, I would have acted
the same way.
1139
00:54:25,655 --> 00:54:26,517
Thank you.
1140
00:54:26,689 --> 00:54:28,000
Especially after
he lied about it.
1141
00:54:28,137 --> 00:54:29,344
[Emma]
Yeah.
1142
00:54:29,344 --> 00:54:31,413
And that's funny that, like,
he would make fun of me
1143
00:54:31,586 --> 00:54:33,172
for feeling insecure
about this.
1144
00:54:33,344 --> 00:54:36,655
Like, you're [bleep] joking
that I'm insecure about this.
1145
00:54:36,827 --> 00:54:37,793
-Mm-hmm.
-[Elise] And yes,
1146
00:54:37,965 --> 00:54:39,206
they did have
an emotional connection.
1147
00:54:39,379 --> 00:54:41,275
Every given [bleep] second
they were texting each other,
1148
00:54:41,448 --> 00:54:43,275
and calling each other.
-[Joshua] Can you let me speak?
1149
00:54:43,448 --> 00:54:45,413
-[Elise] Yeah.
-I didn't -- I didn't waver
from you, you were my priority.
1150
00:54:45,586 --> 00:54:48,103
No, you didn't, you left me
three or four different times
while I was in Australia
1151
00:54:48,275 --> 00:54:50,517
to go run back to Nat.
-But I’m also being there
for a friend, she was going
1152
00:54:50,689 --> 00:54:52,310
through a really tough time.
She was going through
a really tough time.
1153
00:54:52,482 --> 00:54:53,586
But you --
you obviously think --
1154
00:54:53,758 --> 00:54:55,310
Yes, she was, but I was
over there visiting you.
1155
00:54:55,482 --> 00:54:56,965
I was hysterical
at one point, though.
1156
00:54:57,103 --> 00:54:59,000
So you know, maybe just take
1157
00:54:59,172 --> 00:55:00,862
a bit of consideration for that.
1158
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,241
[Laura]
Is Josh the only person
you know that could
1159
00:55:03,413 --> 00:55:04,517
give you support?
1160
00:55:06,068 --> 00:55:08,413
No, I have a lot of friends,
so, but if -- if...
1161
00:55:08,586 --> 00:55:11,206
That's great, and maybe one of
those friends should have been
1162
00:55:11,379 --> 00:55:12,344
the person you leaned on.
1163
00:55:16,482 --> 00:55:18,689
Alright, let's go back
to the finances.
1164
00:55:18,862 --> 00:55:22,448
-When Josh came
to visit you in Miami,
-Yep.
1165
00:55:22,620 --> 00:55:24,413
who paid for things?
1166
00:55:24,586 --> 00:55:26,655
I did, mostly.
1167
00:55:26,827 --> 00:55:29,517
-No, that's --
that's not true at all.
-OK, Josh.
1168
00:55:30,655 --> 00:55:33,586
Three sets of flights,
dinner, you know.
1169
00:55:33,758 --> 00:55:35,689
Josh, you paid for my birthday
dinner in Key West.
1170
00:55:35,862 --> 00:55:37,068
That was it.
1171
00:55:37,241 --> 00:55:39,137
[Joshua speaking]
1172
00:55:39,310 --> 00:55:42,137
Josh, I wasn't doubting you,
I was answering a question.
1173
00:55:43,413 --> 00:55:46,482
I know my father’s concerns
are very valid.
1174
00:55:46,655 --> 00:55:47,586
What are those?
1175
00:55:49,103 --> 00:55:51,655
I've been used
in the past, and, like,
1176
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,241
my dad's money is not money
that I can spend on Josh and I.
1177
00:55:57,413 --> 00:55:58,965
Like, it's my dad's money,
and, like...
1178
00:55:59,103 --> 00:56:01,655
I fell for you before I even
knew about your family history.
1179
00:56:01,827 --> 00:56:03,551
[Elise]
Very true.
1180
00:56:03,724 --> 00:56:05,172
[Shaun]
So Elise, explain something.
1181
00:56:05,344 --> 00:56:10,206
How much do you depend
on your father's support?
1182
00:56:10,379 --> 00:56:13,172
[scoffs] I mean,
1183
00:56:13,344 --> 00:56:16,689
not that much anymore,
but my dad supports me.
1184
00:56:16,862 --> 00:56:20,551
Like sometimes I just, you know,
write myself a check
1185
00:56:20,724 --> 00:56:23,310
from my trust fund every month
and call it a day.
1186
00:56:23,482 --> 00:56:25,172
-OK, OK, listen, listen.
-[Rick] Right.
1187
00:56:25,344 --> 00:56:28,793
-[Emma] Damn.
-[Shaun] So you are
a trust fund baby?
1188
00:56:30,758 --> 00:56:34,172
-If you want to say
it like that, kind of.
-[Shaun] OK.
1189
00:56:34,344 --> 00:56:36,689
It's like to take care of myself
for the rest of my life
1190
00:56:36,862 --> 00:56:38,275
along with the children
that I'll have.
1191
00:56:38,448 --> 00:56:40,344
-Like since you were born?
-[Elise] Yeah.
1192
00:56:40,517 --> 00:56:41,793
Damn.
1193
00:56:42,862 --> 00:56:43,965
That's -- that's great.
1194
00:56:44,103 --> 00:56:45,586
I -- I'm happy.
I -- I don't want it.
1195
00:56:45,758 --> 00:56:47,068
It's not mine.
I didn't earn it.
1196
00:56:47,241 --> 00:56:50,000
-I don't deserve it.
-[Laura] Hearing
this about Elise
1197
00:56:51,137 --> 00:56:54,551
is absolutely mind-blowing
to me that Josh's friends would
1198
00:56:54,724 --> 00:56:57,655
have the audacity to say that
she's not good enough for him.
1199
00:56:58,793 --> 00:57:00,448
Laura, that's not fair.
1200
00:57:01,586 --> 00:57:02,517
You're basing it on money?
1201
00:57:02,689 --> 00:57:05,000
Yeah, you can't base it
on money.
1202
00:57:05,172 --> 00:57:08,448
No, I'm not basing that solely
on money, but Elise has
1203
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:13,965
everything going for her
and Josh is the one not stable,
1204
00:57:14,103 --> 00:57:15,517
living in different places.
1205
00:57:15,689 --> 00:57:19,000
And she's willing to give
that up and move to Australia.
1206
00:57:19,137 --> 00:57:21,655
There's no way that she's not
good enough for him.
1207
00:57:22,689 --> 00:57:26,310
And once again, your father
has talked to you about
1208
00:57:26,482 --> 00:57:30,517
his concerns about
Josh and finances.
1209
00:57:30,689 --> 00:57:32,482
What has your father said?
1210
00:57:32,655 --> 00:57:33,586
That, like...
1211
00:57:36,896 --> 00:57:39,379
That, like, I can't be stupid.
1212
00:57:39,551 --> 00:57:42,137
And, like, he's not getting me
out of trouble again.
1213
00:57:44,103 --> 00:57:46,689
And, like, Josh doesn't
want to take my family's money.
1214
00:57:46,862 --> 00:57:48,655
That -- he --
that's not what he wants.
1215
00:57:49,896 --> 00:57:51,586
But, yeah, my dad
does have concerns,
1216
00:57:51,758 --> 00:57:54,379
and my dad's concerns are valid.
1217
00:57:54,551 --> 00:57:56,068
My dad has
a financial chokehold on me.
1218
00:57:56,241 --> 00:57:58,034
Like, I have to do everything
1219
00:57:58,206 --> 00:57:59,793
right in my dad's eyes
to keep the money.
1220
00:58:00,896 --> 00:58:03,310
At least you're not losing
your trust fund moving across
1221
00:58:03,482 --> 00:58:06,448
the world, though, are you?
-I hope to [bleep] God not.
1222
00:58:06,620 --> 00:58:09,758
Would you be willing to give
that up to be with Josh?
1223
00:58:09,931 --> 00:58:10,862
-[Elise] Ooh.
-Ooh.
1224
00:58:15,482 --> 00:58:16,517
Oh, God.
1225
00:58:17,689 --> 00:58:18,655
[Shaun]
Elise?
1226
00:58:18,827 --> 00:58:20,689
[tense music plays]
1227
00:58:26,793 --> 00:58:28,793
Trish, once again,
congratulations
1228
00:58:28,965 --> 00:58:31,793
on your pregnancy.
-[Trisha] Thank you.
1229
00:58:31,965 --> 00:58:34,206
So we're all wondering,
if Rick is not
1230
00:58:34,379 --> 00:58:37,896
the father, who is?
Your ex?
1231
00:58:38,034 --> 00:58:39,655
Um.
1232
00:58:44,931 --> 00:58:48,241
OK, Elise, it seems like
you don't want to answer.
1233
00:58:49,965 --> 00:58:52,068
If you had to choose,
would you pick Josh
1234
00:58:52,241 --> 00:58:53,724
or your trust fund?
1235
00:58:53,896 --> 00:58:54,862
[inhales]
1236
00:59:00,517 --> 00:59:01,620
Baby, I love you.
1237
00:59:03,896 --> 00:59:06,965
No way, I'd take a trust fund
over Josh any day.
1238
00:59:08,862 --> 00:59:11,482
I don't care about --
that's her money.
1239
00:59:11,655 --> 00:59:12,965
I will make my own.
1240
00:59:13,103 --> 00:59:15,103
I made a decision to make
my life better and I think
1241
00:59:15,275 --> 00:59:17,931
I've made big steps
in doing that, you know?
1242
00:59:18,068 --> 00:59:20,827
I agree, but what I don't like
is that I didn't hear
1243
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,448
you defend Elise when they're
kind of going back and saying,
1244
00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:26,344
"Yeah, that was psycho
in that moment."
1245
00:59:26,517 --> 00:59:28,000
-[Joshua] I did defend Elise.
-No, you didn't.
1246
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,896
Well, you're going to Australia.
1247
00:59:32,034 --> 00:59:34,551
Yeah, I'm nervous,
but, yeah, I'm excited.
1248
00:59:34,724 --> 00:59:36,000
-I'm super excited.
-[Shaun] Well, good.
1249
00:59:36,137 --> 00:59:38,344
Well, we certainly wish
you guys the very best.
1250
00:59:38,517 --> 00:59:42,241
It was a rocky road
for a minute, but it seems like
1251
00:59:42,413 --> 00:59:44,827
you guys are
working things out, so...
1252
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,275
Thank you so much.
1253
00:59:46,275 --> 00:59:49,103
Chris and Nat, we would have
felt like a piece of Josh was
1254
00:59:49,275 --> 00:59:51,241
missing if you had not been
here today.
1255
00:59:51,413 --> 00:59:53,206
So thank you so much
for taking part.
1256
00:59:53,379 --> 00:59:54,586
Thank you for having us.
1257
00:59:59,103 --> 01:00:00,310
OK, everybody, quick break.
1258
01:00:02,241 --> 01:00:03,551
[indistinct background chatter]
1259
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,586
Ugh.
1260
01:00:11,379 --> 01:00:14,103
I'm kind of disappointed
in myself that I didn't really
1261
01:00:15,103 --> 01:00:17,965
say all the things I needed
to say, because, like,
1262
01:00:18,103 --> 01:00:19,931
I was scared of hurting Josh.
1263
01:00:20,068 --> 01:00:23,137
But I felt like he had
Nat's side more than mine.
1264
01:00:23,310 --> 01:00:25,758
It was, like, weird.
She's calling me psychotic.
1265
01:00:25,931 --> 01:00:27,068
He's just like,
"Yeah, that was psychotic."
1266
01:00:27,241 --> 01:00:29,620
I was expecting more,
way more.
1267
01:00:34,827 --> 01:00:37,827
So I texted Josh, and I was
like, "I'm glad you really
1268
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,310
didn't defend me when
Nat called me a psycho."
1269
01:00:40,482 --> 01:00:42,827
He was like,
"You made me feel tiny
1270
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,379
in front of everyone again."
1271
01:00:44,551 --> 01:00:46,724
-[Laura] Tiny?
-"I'm glad you chose
your trust fund over me."
1272
01:00:46,896 --> 01:00:48,793
-[gasps] When did you?
-[Rick] You never answered that.
1273
01:00:48,965 --> 01:00:49,931
[Elise] I didn't even
answer that, right?
1274
01:00:50,068 --> 01:00:51,206
-When --
-[Elise] That's what I thought.
1275
01:00:51,206 --> 01:00:52,413
-I didn't answer that.
-Right, no, you never did.
1276
01:00:52,586 --> 01:00:55,586
[Laura] 'Cause I will choose
your trust fund over Josh.
1277
01:00:55,758 --> 01:00:58,241
I mean, I would
choose it over Birkan.
1278
01:00:58,413 --> 01:00:59,655
-Uh-oh.
-[Laura laughs]
1279
01:00:59,827 --> 01:01:01,724
[Rick speaking]
1280
01:01:01,896 --> 01:01:03,551
[Laura]
Oh, yeah -- no, don't.
1281
01:01:03,724 --> 01:01:05,275
[Rick] I -- I feel like they're
on the right path,
1282
01:01:05,448 --> 01:01:07,000
Elise and Joshua.
1283
01:01:07,172 --> 01:01:10,000
He made a lot of promises,
and he stepped up.
1284
01:01:10,172 --> 01:01:13,896
But she seems to be like
a nitpicker, looking for any
1285
01:01:14,034 --> 01:01:16,379
little thing to be wrong
1286
01:01:16,551 --> 01:01:18,896
'cause she doesn't know what
she wants to do.
1287
01:01:30,172 --> 01:01:34,000
Hey, we're a go.
Three, two...
1288
01:01:34,172 --> 01:01:38,310
Well, it is time to put Rick
and Trisha in the hot seat.
1289
01:01:38,482 --> 01:01:40,344
Trish, once again,
congratulations
1290
01:01:40,517 --> 01:01:43,310
on your pregnancy.
-[Trisha] Thank you.
1291
01:01:44,413 --> 01:01:47,103
I can tell
you are very happy.
1292
01:01:47,275 --> 01:01:48,724
I'm happy I got baby.
1293
01:01:50,137 --> 01:01:53,689
So Rick, you are not
the father of Trisha's baby.
1294
01:01:53,862 --> 01:01:55,586
No, I'm not.
1295
01:01:55,758 --> 01:01:56,827
[Shaun]
Gosh, this story.
1296
01:01:57,793 --> 01:02:00,862
So we're all wondering,
Trish, if Rick is not
1297
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,310
the father, who is?
1298
01:02:03,482 --> 01:02:05,000
Is it your ex?
1299
01:02:05,172 --> 01:02:06,206
[Trisha]
No.
1300
01:02:08,379 --> 01:02:11,724
It's someone that I met
two months after Rick...
1301
01:02:12,965 --> 01:02:15,413
on vacation and work trip.
1302
01:02:23,758 --> 01:02:27,310
But we stay in touch
for the baby.
1303
01:02:29,172 --> 01:02:30,551
[Shaun] OK.
1304
01:02:30,724 --> 01:02:33,172
Rick, have you dated
anyone since the breakup?
1305
01:02:33,344 --> 01:02:34,793
My guess would be yes.
1306
01:02:35,965 --> 01:02:37,517
-Of course.
-Yes, I have.
1307
01:02:37,689 --> 01:02:39,034
[Shaun]
You have?
OK.
1308
01:02:39,206 --> 01:02:43,000
[Rick]
You know, Trish broke up
with me in Madagascar.
1309
01:02:43,172 --> 01:02:44,517
And, um...
1310
01:02:44,689 --> 01:02:48,137
I was sitting in
the hotel room alone.
1311
01:02:48,310 --> 01:02:52,034
So instead of sitting there
feeling sorry for myself,
1312
01:02:53,448 --> 01:02:55,379
-I went out to a bar.
-[Shaun] Mm-hmm.
1313
01:02:55,551 --> 01:02:57,482
What better way to recover
from heartbreak?
1314
01:02:57,655 --> 01:03:00,068
[Rick] Before I could
even go inside of the bar,
1315
01:03:01,551 --> 01:03:05,034
I saw a beautiful young lady
eating chicken.
1316
01:03:10,758 --> 01:03:12,551
It looked good,
and I asked her,
1317
01:03:12,724 --> 01:03:14,827
“Hey, that,
that fried chicken looks good.”
1318
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,137
-Smelled good, looked good.
-"Could I get a taste of that?"
1319
01:03:18,310 --> 01:03:22,034
I bet that was the question.
What did you take a bite of?
1320
01:03:22,206 --> 01:03:23,827
Oh, you're talking about
just the chicken.
1321
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,068
That came later.
1322
01:03:27,310 --> 01:03:30,068
And how long was this after
1323
01:03:31,137 --> 01:03:32,241
Trish broke up with you?
1324
01:03:33,586 --> 01:03:36,862
It was not the night
of the day that she broke up
1325
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,931
with me -- it was
the next night.
1326
01:03:39,068 --> 01:03:40,965
Oh, my God.
1327
01:03:41,103 --> 01:03:43,206
Damn, Rick knocking
them down, bruh.
1328
01:03:43,379 --> 01:03:44,551
[Shaun]
You broke up
1329
01:03:44,724 --> 01:03:47,103
and then the next night,
you were with someone else.
1330
01:03:48,896 --> 01:03:50,206
Yes.
1331
01:03:52,689 --> 01:03:55,724
And how soon
did you two have sex?
1332
01:04:00,586 --> 01:04:02,000
-[Elise] Oh, no.
-Jeez.
1333
01:04:09,827 --> 01:04:11,379
There is something that
I've been, like, upset about
1334
01:04:11,551 --> 01:04:13,034
with the whole Rob stuff.
1335
01:04:13,206 --> 01:04:15,310
I found out, like,
you tried to hook up with him.
1336
01:04:15,482 --> 01:04:17,965
I feel like I don't know
who I can, like, trust.
1337
01:04:18,103 --> 01:04:19,551
You're pointing a finger
at me when I didn't do
1338
01:04:19,724 --> 01:04:22,310
anything [bleep] wrong.
That guy's not your boyfriend.
1339
01:04:22,482 --> 01:04:24,034
Don't get me mad and attack me!
1340
01:04:29,896 --> 01:04:31,862
Alright, Rick,
let me get this straight.
1341
01:04:32,896 --> 01:04:35,862
In the brief time after you
and Trish broke up and before
1342
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,413
you said goodbye
at the airport,
1343
01:04:37,586 --> 01:04:40,241
you met another woman
and had sex.
1344
01:04:42,724 --> 01:04:44,689
Ooh.
1345
01:04:44,862 --> 01:04:46,793
Come on, if you really love
someone, you're not about to go
1346
01:04:46,965 --> 01:04:49,517
[bleep] another girl
the next night.
-[Rick] But it wasn't a break.
1347
01:04:49,689 --> 01:04:51,310
She said that there was
no chance of us
1348
01:04:51,482 --> 01:04:52,931
getting back together.
1349
01:04:53,068 --> 01:04:55,586
But didn't you say
you wanted to work on it?
1350
01:04:55,758 --> 01:04:57,068
Yes, Laura.
1351
01:04:57,241 --> 01:04:59,310
To me, that doesn't make me
feel like you're trying to fix
1352
01:04:59,482 --> 01:05:01,724
it with me if you're sleeping
with someone else.
1353
01:05:01,896 --> 01:05:02,931
[Trisha]
Totally right, Rick.
1354
01:05:03,068 --> 01:05:05,413
You should have been
honest to me, like, oh,
1355
01:05:05,586 --> 01:05:07,310
I already have someone, Trish.
1356
01:05:07,482 --> 01:05:08,827
You shouldn't have giving me,
1357
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,689
and you even kissed me
at the airport.
1358
01:05:10,862 --> 01:05:15,034
-Mm-hmm.
-Like, "Oh, Trisha, we will
work on this relationship."
1359
01:05:15,206 --> 01:05:18,241
-Trish, I still...
-And when I got there,
and -- and I --
1360
01:05:18,413 --> 01:05:21,310
and I told you,
like, "OK, I'm not
1361
01:05:21,482 --> 01:05:24,724
promising you anything,
but, OK, we will work on it."
-Right, right.
1362
01:05:25,793 --> 01:05:28,344
[Shaun] OK, Rick, and you
continued to have a relationship
1363
01:05:28,517 --> 01:05:30,655
with this woman
after you left Madagascar?
1364
01:05:30,827 --> 01:05:31,689
Yes.
1365
01:05:31,862 --> 01:05:33,931
So how long was
that relationship?
1366
01:05:34,068 --> 01:05:35,000
[Rick]
Um...
1367
01:05:36,241 --> 01:05:37,620
-Five months.
-[Shaun] Five months.
1368
01:05:38,862 --> 01:05:41,517
We just broke up
a couple months ago.
1369
01:05:41,689 --> 01:05:43,655
And during that
five-month period,
1370
01:05:43,827 --> 01:05:45,517
were you talking to Trisha?
1371
01:05:46,827 --> 01:05:50,241
Yeah, two weeks after he got
back to United States,
1372
01:05:50,413 --> 01:05:54,689
we still talking.
-So Trish was the ex?
1373
01:05:54,862 --> 01:05:57,344
But I was completely
honest with her.
1374
01:05:57,517 --> 01:05:59,344
This woman was
from Madagascar?
1375
01:05:59,517 --> 01:06:00,724
From Madagascar.
1376
01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:02,758
[Shaun]
OK, did you go back
over and visit her?
1377
01:06:02,931 --> 01:06:05,586
No, but we took a trip
to Hong Kong.
1378
01:06:05,758 --> 01:06:09,034
Oh, OK.
So you guys were on a trip.
1379
01:06:09,206 --> 01:06:10,310
Which is supposed
to be my birthday trip.
1380
01:06:10,482 --> 01:06:12,517
-Which was -- yes.
-Wait a minute, what?
1381
01:06:13,931 --> 01:06:16,310
-What?
-Ouch.
1382
01:06:16,482 --> 01:06:18,413
So you guys planned the trip
to Hong Kong together?
1383
01:06:18,586 --> 01:06:22,586
You know, before Rick left
my country, we were talking,
1384
01:06:22,758 --> 01:06:25,655
like, "On your birthday,
we are going to Hong Kong
1385
01:06:25,827 --> 01:06:29,482
"and have fun and go
to Disneyland
1386
01:06:29,655 --> 01:06:30,758
and something like that."
1387
01:06:30,931 --> 01:06:34,241
And I found out later that
he went with the girl.
1388
01:06:34,413 --> 01:06:35,758
[Shaun]
Oh.
1389
01:06:37,448 --> 01:06:39,862
She was in Indonesia
while I was in Hong Kong.
1390
01:06:40,931 --> 01:06:42,517
Trish, what were you doing
in Indonesia?
1391
01:06:42,689 --> 01:06:45,103
I was with the guy,
the baby daddy.
1392
01:06:45,275 --> 01:06:46,310
[Laura]
OK.
1393
01:06:46,482 --> 01:06:50,448
-Oh.
-OK, so it's not like as bad.
1394
01:06:50,620 --> 01:06:55,827
OK, who here thinks Rick
moves on really fast?
1395
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,517
-Let me see the show of hands.
-I love Rick's honesty.
1396
01:07:00,689 --> 01:07:03,551
-[Jovon] Rick.
-I do, I raise two hands.
1397
01:07:03,724 --> 01:07:04,620
You my boy, man.
1398
01:07:04,793 --> 01:07:06,965
-But that was pretty quick, man.
-Yes.
1399
01:07:07,965 --> 01:07:10,965
I worry about you guys.
Like, why?
1400
01:07:11,103 --> 01:07:13,655
-Like.
-I have a fear of being alone.
1401
01:07:13,827 --> 01:07:15,551
Then get married!
1402
01:07:15,724 --> 01:07:17,379
I'm trying to find my wife,
1403
01:07:17,551 --> 01:07:19,827
and I thought I found
her in Trish.
1404
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,068
-Oh.
-You lied to her.
1405
01:07:22,241 --> 01:07:23,827
She could have been your wife.
1406
01:07:25,172 --> 01:07:26,586
-You know?
-She wanted to be.
1407
01:07:26,758 --> 01:07:27,931
[Rick]
That's true.
1408
01:07:27,931 --> 01:07:30,931
That's -- that's why I know
I made a big mistake.
1409
01:07:33,379 --> 01:07:37,068
[Shaun]
Speaking of big mistakes,
let's talk about one Rick made
1410
01:07:37,241 --> 01:07:38,655
in the bedroom.
1411
01:07:38,827 --> 01:07:41,931
There was something Rick
brought along with him
1412
01:07:42,068 --> 01:07:45,896
to Madagascar that may
have caught viewers off guard.
1413
01:07:46,034 --> 01:07:48,655
Let's look back at that
awkward exchange.
1414
01:07:48,827 --> 01:07:49,793
Oh, my God.
1415
01:07:54,793 --> 01:07:55,827
Hey, what are you doing?
1416
01:07:57,172 --> 01:07:58,344
[Trisha speaking]
1417
01:07:59,931 --> 01:08:04,241
Trish let me know
that she's a [bleep], you know,
1418
01:08:04,413 --> 01:08:05,896
a female ejaculator.
1419
01:08:07,689 --> 01:08:09,275
Oh.
1420
01:08:10,413 --> 01:08:13,137
What?
Oh, my God, so.
1421
01:08:13,310 --> 01:08:14,206
[Rick speaking]
1422
01:08:18,033 --> 01:08:20,586
-I think that's hilarious.
-[Annalyn] Oh, my god!
1423
01:08:20,758 --> 01:08:23,206
-A giant slip and slide.
-[Shaun] OK.
1424
01:08:23,379 --> 01:08:27,620
Has anyone else ever heard
of the splash pad?
1425
01:08:27,792 --> 01:08:28,689
-Never.
-[Shaun] No?
1426
01:08:28,862 --> 01:08:30,103
-[Emma] No.
-No.
1427
01:08:30,274 --> 01:08:33,689
-I am a vanilla, so I don't.
-[Rick] He's -- he's vanilla.
1428
01:08:33,862 --> 01:08:34,862
No, I'm not vanilla.
1429
01:08:34,862 --> 01:08:36,862
I'm dark chocolate
when it comes to that.
1430
01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:42,930
So is this something
that you travel with?
1431
01:08:43,068 --> 01:08:44,482
-Rick?
-[Rick] Um...
1432
01:08:44,654 --> 01:08:48,136
Like, did you take it
when you went
1433
01:08:48,310 --> 01:08:51,758
to see your other friends?
-Oh, no.
1434
01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:53,171
[Laura]
Was it brand new?
1435
01:08:53,344 --> 01:08:54,344
You did not reuse it,
Rick, please.
1436
01:08:54,517 --> 01:08:55,448
Or was it reused?
1437
01:08:59,103 --> 01:09:00,827
-[Elise] He's...
-[Shaun] Oh, Rick.
1438
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,274
I mean, we reuse sheets,
don't we? We put them
1439
01:09:03,448 --> 01:09:06,136
in the washing machine.
-[all] Oh, God -- oh, my God.
1440
01:09:06,310 --> 01:09:08,000
-[all exclaiming]
-[Forrest] Oh, no.
1441
01:09:08,136 --> 01:09:10,586
Yeah, he have used it
with his ex.
1442
01:09:12,965 --> 01:09:14,274
[Shaun]
Oh, Rick.
1443
01:09:14,448 --> 01:09:16,586
-Rick!
-Nasty.
1444
01:09:16,758 --> 01:09:17,689
[Elise]
Yup.
1445
01:09:17,862 --> 01:09:21,344
OK, so let's talk
about this woman.
1446
01:09:21,517 --> 01:09:24,895
Rick went back to her
after five days
1447
01:09:25,033 --> 01:09:27,724
of not hearing from Trish.
1448
01:09:27,895 --> 01:09:29,206
Does that seem abrupt?
1449
01:09:30,930 --> 01:09:33,724
[Aviva]
Missing for five days,
that's a little sketchy.
1450
01:09:33,895 --> 01:09:36,689
But you still shouldn't have
gone as far as going all
1451
01:09:36,862 --> 01:09:39,551
the way to Colombia.
-I admit to that.
1452
01:09:39,724 --> 01:09:41,448
I made a lot of mistakes
with Trish,
1453
01:09:42,689 --> 01:09:45,103
but I didn't go
at that time.
1454
01:09:45,274 --> 01:09:46,724
Oh, you didn't go
in that five days?
1455
01:09:46,895 --> 01:09:48,895
I just booked it
for a future date.
1456
01:09:49,033 --> 01:09:52,620
So when you went on that trip
in a future date, were you back
1457
01:09:52,792 --> 01:09:53,792
to talking with Trish?
-[Rick] Yeah.
1458
01:09:54,896 --> 01:09:56,206
We were back to talking.
1459
01:09:56,379 --> 01:09:58,000
But you still went
on the trip?
1460
01:09:58,137 --> 01:10:02,689
Yes, exactly.
We were talking back.
1461
01:10:02,862 --> 01:10:05,517
-That's really bad.
-I was -- I was confused.
1462
01:10:06,793 --> 01:10:08,172
We hadn't met in person yet.
1463
01:10:08,344 --> 01:10:10,172
We hadn't consummated
our relationship.
1464
01:10:10,344 --> 01:10:13,034
No, but after, you were lying
on the bed with me when
1465
01:10:13,206 --> 01:10:15,827
you pick up her call
and texting her, like,
1466
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,413
"Oh, the great time
I had was with you.
1467
01:10:18,586 --> 01:10:19,551
I miss you, baby."
1468
01:10:21,620 --> 01:10:23,758
Because I didn't want her
to keep calling.
1469
01:10:23,931 --> 01:10:27,034
You could have just declined
or not answering the call.
1470
01:10:27,206 --> 01:10:29,000
-You don't care.
-I -- I was.
That's what I did at first.
1471
01:10:29,137 --> 01:10:30,724
I declined like five calls.
1472
01:10:30,896 --> 01:10:32,379
But you did, you did.
You answered the call.
1473
01:10:32,551 --> 01:10:35,551
And then -- and then
she didn't stop until
I -- until I texted her.
1474
01:10:35,724 --> 01:10:37,034
Why would you care?
So why would you care?
1475
01:10:37,206 --> 01:10:39,344
She's your ex, though,
and we were lying
1476
01:10:39,517 --> 01:10:40,586
in the same bed.
1477
01:10:41,551 --> 01:10:44,241
Am I the only person
in the that's had feelings
1478
01:10:44,413 --> 01:10:47,896
with multiple people at once?
-No, he's not the first guy.
1479
01:10:48,034 --> 01:10:50,827
-He's not the first person.
-No, hell no.
1480
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,931
So Rick, when was the last
time you talked
1481
01:10:53,068 --> 01:10:54,689
to your Colombian ex?
1482
01:10:55,862 --> 01:10:56,862
Um...
1483
01:10:58,068 --> 01:10:59,724
I haven't talked
to her for months.
1484
01:10:59,896 --> 01:11:01,137
OK.
1485
01:11:01,137 --> 01:11:05,344
And have you and Trisha had
any conversations about
1486
01:11:05,517 --> 01:11:06,758
getting back together?
1487
01:11:06,931 --> 01:11:07,896
Yes, we have.
1488
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,620
We've talked
about future plans.
1489
01:11:11,793 --> 01:11:13,517
Now you're willing
to take care of someone
1490
01:11:13,689 --> 01:11:15,551
else's baby.
-That's a lot.
1491
01:11:15,724 --> 01:11:18,344
Yeah, right now we have
a baby involved.
1492
01:11:18,517 --> 01:11:21,172
Are you gonna 100% be
dedicated and take care
1493
01:11:21,344 --> 01:11:24,206
of her and this baby
as your own?
-I -- I can.
1494
01:11:24,379 --> 01:11:27,379
I'm -- I'm waiting on
Trisha's decision about
1495
01:11:28,413 --> 01:11:31,551
whether or not she'll allow me
to go see her again.
1496
01:11:31,724 --> 01:11:32,862
Ooh.
1497
01:11:35,034 --> 01:11:37,034
Trisha, how do you feel
about that?
1498
01:11:37,206 --> 01:11:38,103
Do you want him to come?
1499
01:11:40,241 --> 01:11:41,448
[Trisha] Hmm.
1500
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,689
By all means, I would --
if I was Trish, I would
never accept you back.
1501
01:12:01,862 --> 01:12:04,379
You'd be blocked on my phone,
and I would literally tell
1502
01:12:04,551 --> 01:12:06,344
you to go [bleep] off.
-[Emma] I would take him back.
1503
01:12:08,344 --> 01:12:09,758
[Shaun]
And why is that, Emma?
1504
01:12:09,931 --> 01:12:12,655
He's acknowledged all
of his mistakes, and even though
1505
01:12:12,827 --> 01:12:17,241
he has that he's not proud of,
he really does love Trish.
1506
01:12:17,413 --> 01:12:18,965
Woman to woman, I wouldn't.
1507
01:12:20,172 --> 01:12:23,344
Just because some people,
they have this pattern,
1508
01:12:23,517 --> 01:12:25,448
they keep doing it
like an addiction.
1509
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,965
He's weak in the flesh.
1510
01:12:29,103 --> 01:12:31,827
There's this itchiness
that he needs to scratch.
1511
01:12:34,241 --> 01:12:37,827
OK, who thinks there is
a future for this relationship?
1512
01:12:40,275 --> 01:12:42,034
You gotta put in a lot of work.
1513
01:12:42,206 --> 01:12:44,931
I believe in my boy.
I believe in you, Rick.
1514
01:12:45,068 --> 01:12:47,000
[Rick] I think there's a very
good chance that Trish
1515
01:12:47,137 --> 01:12:48,310
will take me back.
1516
01:12:48,482 --> 01:12:51,310
I'm not gonna lie, I have
feelings for him,
1517
01:12:51,482 --> 01:12:56,241
but I'm not ready
to put him in my life.
1518
01:12:58,724 --> 01:13:01,689
...and I'm really happy,
and I don't want anyone
1519
01:13:01,862 --> 01:13:03,620
to change how I feel right now.
1520
01:13:05,724 --> 01:13:06,827
[Shaun]
OK.
1521
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,896
What a rollercoaster
this has been for you both.
1522
01:13:10,034 --> 01:13:13,000
We wish you luck
with everything, and Trisha,
1523
01:13:13,137 --> 01:13:15,724
please take care
during your pregnancy.
1524
01:13:15,896 --> 01:13:18,310
-Congratulations once again.
-Thank you so much.
1525
01:13:19,689 --> 01:13:22,517
Well, that is all the time
we have on "Before the 90 Days,"
1526
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:23,965
the Couples Tell All.
1527
01:13:24,103 --> 01:13:25,896
-Bring out the tequila.
-Whoo!
1528
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:30,379
[Shaun] Alright, I wanna thank
all of the couples
1529
01:13:30,551 --> 01:13:32,482
as well as their friends
and families
1530
01:13:32,655 --> 01:13:34,241
for sharing
their journeys with us.
1531
01:13:34,413 --> 01:13:36,448
-Such a queen.
-Thank you.
1532
01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:38,758
-Thank you.
-I'm Shaun Robinson.
1533
01:13:38,931 --> 01:13:41,862
Thank you so much for watching,
and I'll see you next time.
1534
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:42,931
Thank you.
1535
01:13:43,068 --> 01:13:44,551
Thank you.
You're awesome.
1536
01:13:44,724 --> 01:13:46,655
You're amazing.
I'm glad I got to meet you.
1537
01:13:46,827 --> 01:13:48,103
Bye-bye.
1538
01:13:50,620 --> 01:13:52,000
Yo, Rick, what's up, man?
1539
01:13:52,172 --> 01:13:53,793
Hey, Forrest,
what you think, man?
1540
01:13:53,965 --> 01:13:55,206
-We're all done with this.
-[Forrest] Man...
1541
01:13:55,379 --> 01:13:56,896
I thought today went
really, really well.
1542
01:13:57,034 --> 01:13:59,413
I got your sparkles
all over me, bro.
1543
01:13:59,586 --> 01:14:02,344
And you had so much stuff
going on, man.
1544
01:14:02,517 --> 01:14:05,275
You're frickin' coming back
around, and you're trying
1545
01:14:05,448 --> 01:14:07,862
your best to, you know,
be a good man for Trish.
1546
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,551
I just hope I get that
opportunity to go back
1547
01:14:10,724 --> 01:14:14,103
to Madagascar and get on
my hands and knees and show it.
1548
01:14:17,448 --> 01:14:19,448
♪♪
1549
01:14:22,793 --> 01:14:24,241
[Emma and Elise speaking]
1550
01:14:30,586 --> 01:14:33,172
You know, I know that we've
become friends recently.
1551
01:14:34,172 --> 01:14:36,172
And, like, I really...
1552
01:14:36,344 --> 01:14:38,068
I really, like,
value a friendship with you.
1553
01:14:39,551 --> 01:14:41,689
But there is something that
I've been, like, upset about
1554
01:14:41,862 --> 01:14:43,137
with the whole Rob stuff.
-OK.
1555
01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:47,689
'Cause, you know, obviously
I told you about us hooking up
1556
01:14:47,862 --> 01:14:50,689
and, you know, everything
that happened with me and him.
1557
01:14:50,862 --> 01:14:55,724
But then I found out, like,
shortly after I told you,
1558
01:14:55,896 --> 01:14:58,344
you tried to hook up with him.
-I tried to hook up with him?
1559
01:14:58,517 --> 01:15:00,103
-Mm-hmm.
-[Elise] That's not true.
1560
01:15:00,275 --> 01:15:02,068
He, like, showed me.
1561
01:15:02,241 --> 01:15:04,655
And it was
multiple screenshots.
1562
01:15:04,827 --> 01:15:07,172
[Elise]
OK, then call him.
Get a screenshot.
1563
01:15:07,344 --> 01:15:08,620
[Emma]
I can, but I'm just --
1564
01:15:08,620 --> 01:15:10,551
I'd rather, like, talk to you
about it because I thought
1565
01:15:10,724 --> 01:15:11,862
we were, like,
building a friendship.
1566
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,517
And it's just, like,
it's just something that
1567
01:15:13,689 --> 01:15:14,896
bothered me when I heard that,
1568
01:15:15,034 --> 01:15:16,310
that you were trying to hook up
with him.
1569
01:15:16,310 --> 01:15:18,241
I wasn't trying to hook up
with him, so I don't know why
1570
01:15:18,413 --> 01:15:20,034
he's telling you that.
1571
01:15:20,206 --> 01:15:22,275
I promise you I wasn't trying
to hook up with him.
1572
01:15:22,448 --> 01:15:23,689
I was not.
1573
01:15:23,689 --> 01:15:25,551
I did talk to him at a party,
like, a couple weeks ago,
1574
01:15:25,724 --> 01:15:29,137
like, about our past year
and, like, how we're doing.
1575
01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:31,620
But after that conversation
happened at the party,
1576
01:15:31,793 --> 01:15:33,551
he said that you were trying
to hook up with him and you were
1577
01:15:33,724 --> 01:15:34,862
trying to Uber him
to your hotel room.
1578
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,172
That's not true.
1579
01:15:36,172 --> 01:15:37,551
And you were, like,
saying, like, "Oh, I'm so sad
1580
01:15:37,724 --> 01:15:38,689
"that you can't come to my room.
1581
01:15:38,862 --> 01:15:39,931
Like, just come
and cuddle with me."
1582
01:15:39,931 --> 01:15:43,344
OK, that's not true.
And that's [bleep] crazy.
1583
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,137
This is just so annoying.
1584
01:15:49,310 --> 01:15:50,275
So don't talk about
it anymore.
1585
01:15:50,448 --> 01:15:51,931
No, because it's just
so annoying.
1586
01:15:52,068 --> 01:15:53,275
[Elise] But --
1587
01:15:53,275 --> 01:15:55,482
This is just, like,
a hard situation for me because
1588
01:15:55,655 --> 01:15:57,448
it's, like, I just, I feel like
I don't know who I can,
1589
01:15:57,620 --> 01:15:59,103
like, trust.
You know what I mean?
1590
01:15:59,275 --> 01:16:01,448
Like, I have this guy, like,
yeah, we're just hooking up,
1591
01:16:01,620 --> 01:16:03,344
but I developed real
feelings for him.
1592
01:16:03,517 --> 01:16:06,413
And when I met you,
you know, like, I really cared
1593
01:16:06,586 --> 01:16:08,000
about a friendship
with you, you know?
1594
01:16:08,137 --> 01:16:09,620
And then when I heard
that right away, I'm just,
1595
01:16:09,620 --> 01:16:12,241
like, you know, it just feels
like everyone's just
[bleep] on me.
1596
01:16:14,034 --> 01:16:16,620
The vibe I'm getting from Emma
right now seems fake and, like,
1597
01:16:16,793 --> 01:16:18,034
I don't care about Rob.
1598
01:16:18,206 --> 01:16:19,758
Like, do you just think
you're that hot [bleep]?
1599
01:16:19,931 --> 01:16:20,827
Like, bitch, you're not.
1600
01:16:24,862 --> 01:16:26,862
This is actually
some crazy [bleep] right here.
1601
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,000
I think Josh probably
slept with Emma.
1602
01:16:29,172 --> 01:16:30,275
Wait, what?
1603
01:16:30,448 --> 01:16:31,448
-Josh?
-You think?
1604
01:16:31,448 --> 01:16:32,862
[both]
You think Josh slept
with Emma?
1605
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,068
-[Forrest] Mm-hmm.
-No way.
1606
01:16:34,241 --> 01:16:35,206
No, no, I don't think so.
1607
01:16:35,379 --> 01:16:37,310
I mean, why else would
she be so, like,
1608
01:16:37,482 --> 01:16:39,000
angry about it?
1609
01:16:39,172 --> 01:16:40,206
Hold on.
I wanna hear.
1610
01:16:41,172 --> 01:16:42,827
Like, I'm sorry you're hurt,
but that's just
1611
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,827
inaccurate information.
The guy [bleep] is known
to be a [bleep] liar.
1612
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,000
I don't want him.
1613
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,586
I have a boyfriend.
1614
01:16:50,758 --> 01:16:53,137
The last thing I want
is a [bleep] short man.
1615
01:16:53,310 --> 01:16:55,793
I'm sorry you're hurt,
and I'm sorry you heard wrong.
1616
01:16:55,965 --> 01:16:57,103
I don't know what else to say.
1617
01:16:58,344 --> 01:17:01,551
I also didn't bring up at all
any of this talk, 'cause
1618
01:17:01,724 --> 01:17:03,275
I knew you didn't wanna talk
about it, and I've respected
1619
01:17:03,448 --> 01:17:04,517
you about that.
-[Emma] I understand that.
1620
01:17:04,517 --> 01:17:05,827
I don't know what point
you're trying to make.
1621
01:17:05,827 --> 01:17:07,448
So I think it's very weird that
you're trying to play this,
1622
01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:08,896
like, sad cry girl.
1623
01:17:09,034 --> 01:17:10,413
"Like, poor me.
I'm the victim."
1624
01:17:10,586 --> 01:17:12,310
You're pointing a finger at me
when I didn't do
1625
01:17:12,482 --> 01:17:14,586
anything [bleep] wrong.
I'm not [bleep] Rob.
-Don’t, don't raise your voice.
1626
01:17:14,758 --> 01:17:16,931
-Girl, I'm not taking blame
for something I didn't do.
-[Emma] Don't raise --
1627
01:17:17,068 --> 01:17:19,034
-I didn't do [bleep].
-[Emma] Don't raise your --
don't raise your voice at me.
1628
01:17:19,206 --> 01:17:20,586
But I didn't do [bleep] [bleep].
1629
01:17:20,758 --> 01:17:22,344
-Don't -- don't raise --
-Don't get me mad
and attack me.
1630
01:17:22,517 --> 01:17:24,551
-Don't -- I --
I'm attacking you?
-That guy's not your boyfriend.
1631
01:17:24,724 --> 01:17:27,000
He's [bleep] able to do
whatever the [bleep] he wants.
1632
01:17:33,275 --> 01:17:35,000
-[Elise] I didn't do [bleep].
-[Emma] Don't raise
your voice at me.
1633
01:17:35,137 --> 01:17:36,827
But I didn't do [bleep] [bleep].
Don't get me mad
and attack me.
1634
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,724
-I'm attacking you?
-That guy's not your boyfriend.
1635
01:17:38,896 --> 01:17:41,379
-He's [bleep] able to do
whatever the [bleep] he wants.
-[Emma] I'm attacking you?
1636
01:17:41,551 --> 01:17:43,241
You're hooking up with other
guys, who the [bleep] cares?
1637
01:17:43,413 --> 01:17:45,310
-[Emma] I'm attacking you?
-[Aviva] You OK?
1638
01:17:45,482 --> 01:17:46,724
Yeah, I'm fine.
1639
01:17:46,724 --> 01:17:48,275
You know today when you're
with Stig and you're getting
1640
01:17:48,448 --> 01:17:49,758
blamed for something
you didn't do?
1641
01:17:49,758 --> 01:17:51,517
-That's how I feel right now.
-Elise, but I'm asking you.
1642
01:17:51,689 --> 01:17:53,103
-I'm not.
-[Elise] But I'm telling
you the answer.
1643
01:17:53,103 --> 01:17:55,172
-[Emma] I'm not --
-And how many other times --
are you leaving?
1644
01:17:55,344 --> 01:17:56,413
[Forrest]
Yeah, I was getting
ready to go.
1645
01:17:56,586 --> 01:17:58,000
And I heard you guys
chatting it up.
1646
01:17:58,137 --> 01:18:00,758
-And I just thought
I would -- hi.
-[Elise] Come in.
1647
01:18:00,931 --> 01:18:02,000
[Forrest]
I'm not trying to make
1648
01:18:02,172 --> 01:18:03,172
it a party, it's just.
1649
01:18:03,344 --> 01:18:04,655
So how do you wanna end
this conversation?
1650
01:18:04,827 --> 01:18:06,068
'Cause I didn't do that.
1651
01:18:06,068 --> 01:18:07,344
And I'm not gonna get blamed
for something I didn't do.
1652
01:18:07,517 --> 01:18:08,689
-And I didn't do it.
-I didn't blame you.
1653
01:18:08,862 --> 01:18:10,724
Did I come and say,
"Hey, Elise, you're a whore.
1654
01:18:10,896 --> 01:18:12,275
You did this?"
No, I didn't.
1655
01:18:12,448 --> 01:18:14,551
[Forrest]
I just wanted to say
goodnight to you.
1656
01:18:14,724 --> 01:18:16,310
[Elise]
Oh, amazing.
1657
01:18:16,482 --> 01:18:19,172
-[Forrest] I promise I would
say goodnight to you.
-Bye, Forrest.
1658
01:18:19,344 --> 01:18:20,965
You know, I'm sorry
[bleep] going down.
1659
01:18:21,103 --> 01:18:23,448
-Can I say
goodnight to you?
-[Elise and Aviva] Yes.
1660
01:18:23,620 --> 01:18:26,310
-[Aviva] I just wanted to say --
-[Forrest] I -- it was -- I had
such a fun time meeting you.
1661
01:18:26,482 --> 01:18:28,206
-[Elise] Oh, it was
so nice meeting you.
-[Forrest] And I just wanna
1662
01:18:28,379 --> 01:18:31,793
thank you for everything and
I'm glad that you and Josh
are together and work out.
1663
01:18:31,965 --> 01:18:34,000
[Elise speaking]
1664
01:18:34,172 --> 01:18:36,689
I don't know 100%
what's going on.
1665
01:18:36,862 --> 01:18:40,137
And so I'm like, "Oh, my God,
OK, fine, I'm just gonna
1666
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:42,206
end this right now.
I'll just get back home."
1667
01:18:43,551 --> 01:18:48,379
So, uh, that's some crazy-ass
[bleep] going on here.
1668
01:18:48,551 --> 01:18:51,310
Well, it seems like something
is going on with maybe like
1669
01:18:51,482 --> 01:18:53,517
a guy kind of named Rob.
1670
01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:55,655
I don't know what the [bleep]
is going on, but hey,
1671
01:18:55,827 --> 01:18:58,655
we had a tell-all,
we gotta tell all.
1672
01:18:58,827 --> 01:19:00,068
But I'm glad
I'm totally in love,
1673
01:19:00,241 --> 01:19:02,103
and I'm getting
the [bleep] out of here.
1674
01:19:08,034 --> 01:19:10,206
So leaving here, I'm finally
1675
01:19:11,275 --> 01:19:15,344
you know, getting my dreams
and Sheena's dreams figured out
1676
01:19:15,517 --> 01:19:16,517
with the K-1 visa.
1677
01:19:17,896 --> 01:19:20,241
And I want Sheena here
10 billion percent.
1678
01:19:29,793 --> 01:19:30,793
Did I wanna confront you?
No.
1679
01:19:30,965 --> 01:19:31,896
Because, yeah,
is he my boyfriend?
1680
01:19:32,034 --> 01:19:33,068
No, he's not.
1681
01:19:33,241 --> 01:19:34,448
-[Laura] I just...
-[Emma] It doesn't matter.
1682
01:19:34,620 --> 01:19:36,896
I know every single one of us
in this little room tends
1683
01:19:37,034 --> 01:19:39,586
to say things we don't always
mean when we get up to here.
1684
01:19:39,758 --> 01:19:41,172
-And we've been...
-[Elise] I just wish
this was, like --
1685
01:19:41,344 --> 01:19:44,482
We've been having each other's
backs this entire tell-all.
1686
01:19:47,931 --> 01:19:49,241
Today was a lot.
1687
01:19:51,103 --> 01:19:55,482
I wasn't expecting to have such
a heated exchange with Michal.
1688
01:19:57,689 --> 01:20:00,413
And I was shocked when Birkan
1689
01:20:00,586 --> 01:20:03,586
said he paid off that debt
in full.
1690
01:20:03,758 --> 01:20:06,241
-It was so, so wonderful
meeting you.
-[Rick] OK, Laura, yeah, you --
1691
01:20:06,413 --> 01:20:08,000
yes, you too.
1692
01:20:08,172 --> 01:20:10,724
But our communication
hasn't been super great,
1693
01:20:10,896 --> 01:20:12,275
this whole time.
1694
01:20:12,448 --> 01:20:15,413
To find out, like,
he paid for the apartment
1695
01:20:15,586 --> 01:20:17,655
he's living
with his parents in.
1696
01:20:17,827 --> 01:20:19,931
I don't understand
why that never came out.
1697
01:20:21,068 --> 01:20:24,068
In a way, it makes me look
at him a little bit differently,
1698
01:20:24,241 --> 01:20:26,965
and it creates more doubt.
1699
01:20:27,103 --> 01:20:28,137
I don't like that.
1700
01:20:54,965 --> 01:20:58,827
I feel a little bit bad
because, like, I took
1701
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,344
everything I had out on her
when it really should have
1702
01:21:01,517 --> 01:21:04,793
been directed at Rob.
I mean, he lied to her.
1703
01:21:04,965 --> 01:21:07,724
She did not do anything wrong,
and she got the wrath of Elise,
1704
01:21:07,896 --> 01:21:08,827
and that was not appropriate.
1705
01:21:13,448 --> 01:21:14,586
[Rick]
Bye, guys.
1706
01:21:15,517 --> 01:21:19,137
I don't think I made
any grounds today with Trish.
1707
01:21:21,620 --> 01:21:23,931
I still believe
that there is a chance.
1708
01:21:24,068 --> 01:21:26,689
It's just a matter of getting
that invitation from her.
1709
01:21:28,724 --> 01:21:29,724
It's cold out here.
1710
01:21:33,655 --> 01:21:35,896
No, there's no one else
in my life.
1711
01:21:44,862 --> 01:21:48,275
She's been encouraging me
to go see other people
1712
01:21:48,448 --> 01:21:49,758
and not to wait on her.
1713
01:21:49,931 --> 01:21:52,344
I don't know how long
I can wait.
1714
01:21:54,241 --> 01:21:56,517
She's really special to me,
but...
1715
01:21:59,413 --> 01:22:01,206
life is lonely.
1716
01:22:09,103 --> 01:22:12,000
Stig's toxicity
and the way he thinks
1717
01:22:12,137 --> 01:22:14,172
and his double standards
are just,
1718
01:22:14,344 --> 01:22:15,758
like, not OK,
1719
01:22:15,931 --> 01:22:19,517
but I still have feelings
for him, and I'm not gonna sit
1720
01:22:19,689 --> 01:22:21,034
there and deny it.
Like...
1721
01:22:22,206 --> 01:22:24,103
-I love you.
-[Emma] I'm gonna miss you.
1722
01:22:24,275 --> 01:22:25,344
[Aviva]
I’m gonna miss you, too.
1723
01:22:25,344 --> 01:22:27,689
I'm not really in the mood
to date right now.
1724
01:22:27,862 --> 01:22:30,000
I wish we just could have
figured it out.
1725
01:22:31,931 --> 01:22:33,551
Sorry.
God, I'm so emotional.
1726
01:22:33,724 --> 01:22:35,517
-I'm tired of crying.
-[Emma] Alright, love you.
1727
01:22:35,689 --> 01:22:36,931
-OK, I love you.
-[Emma] Alright, bye.
1728
01:22:37,068 --> 01:22:38,344
Bye.
1729
01:22:40,827 --> 01:22:45,586
I'm so ready to get home,
take a warm shower
1730
01:22:45,758 --> 01:22:48,965
and forget about this.
1731
01:22:49,103 --> 01:22:51,206
I have so many questions
for Joshua, and I don't know
1732
01:22:51,379 --> 01:22:52,517
where we stand.
1733
01:22:52,689 --> 01:22:53,827
Like, I'm genuinely wondering,
1734
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,482
like, what he's feeling
right now.
1735
01:22:56,655 --> 01:22:59,344
It wasn't like he was
horrible to me.
1736
01:22:59,517 --> 01:23:01,103
We're not breaking up.
1737
01:23:01,275 --> 01:23:02,862
I just have done so much
for this guy.
1738
01:23:08,965 --> 01:23:10,862
It's just a spit
in the face, you know?
1739
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,689
When you do contribute,
and then you're being made out
1740
01:23:13,862 --> 01:23:16,620
to be like, you know,
I didn't contribute anything.
1741
01:23:16,793 --> 01:23:20,068
You know, we all haven't had it
served to us on a platter.
1742
01:23:20,241 --> 01:23:22,034
[Elise] He said,
"I can't do this fighting.
1743
01:23:22,206 --> 01:23:23,344
"I wanna have kids with you.
1744
01:23:23,517 --> 01:23:25,103
"You're focusing
on all the bull[bleep].
1745
01:23:25,275 --> 01:23:26,379
I do not wanna fight with you."
1746
01:23:28,241 --> 01:23:30,103
And now leaving here, I'm like,
1747
01:23:30,275 --> 01:23:32,344
[bleep], am I going back
to Australia, going back
1748
01:23:32,517 --> 01:23:36,000
into the trap that we were in?
Is this like going backwards?
1749
01:23:38,206 --> 01:23:39,620
Oh, my God, what a day!
1750
01:23:40,965 --> 01:23:43,758
It gave me PTSD
to see Ziad again.
1751
01:23:43,931 --> 01:23:45,068
I did not like it.
1752
01:23:46,068 --> 01:23:47,379
We have nothing left to say.
1753
01:23:47,379 --> 01:23:50,655
I feel like I can leave here,
and I got it all out there,
1754
01:23:50,827 --> 01:23:52,965
and we can finally move forward
1755
01:23:53,103 --> 01:23:54,379
and end this relationship
for good.
1756
01:23:55,482 --> 01:23:56,655
Still haven't found the one.
1757
01:23:56,655 --> 01:23:58,965
I'm still not engaged,
still not married, still not
1758
01:23:59,103 --> 01:24:01,137
in a relationship,
so I'm ready to put myself
1759
01:24:01,310 --> 01:24:05,206
out there and start
dating again.
1760
01:24:05,379 --> 01:24:07,000
[Elise] Hey, girl.
1761
01:24:07,172 --> 01:24:08,137
-[Emma] Hey.
-[Elise] I'm gonna leave.
1762
01:24:08,137 --> 01:24:09,517
[Emma] Yeah, I think
I'm gonna go, too.
1763
01:24:10,551 --> 01:24:12,344
[Elise]
Alright, let's [bleep] go.
1764
01:24:12,517 --> 01:24:14,482
-Let's go.
-Let's [bleep] go.
1765
01:24:14,655 --> 01:24:15,586
[Emma]
What a day.
1766
01:24:17,931 --> 01:24:19,517
[indistinct background chatter]
1767
01:24:19,689 --> 01:24:22,241
[Lisa]
I'm leaving as is.
I don't give a [bleep].
1768
01:24:22,413 --> 01:24:26,068
I’m done, oh, God.
1769
01:24:26,241 --> 01:24:28,000
Bitch, it's over.
That's all I gotta say.
1770
01:24:28,172 --> 01:24:30,862
It's over.
I am so done.
1771
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,310
I lost a love I thought I had,
1772
01:24:33,482 --> 01:24:35,241
but I don't have
a master anymore.
1773
01:24:35,413 --> 01:24:37,413
I have a boyfriend.
I have Ty.
1774
01:24:38,724 --> 01:24:42,275
I'm going back in a healthy way
to live in Nigeria
1775
01:24:42,448 --> 01:24:44,310
with my new man.
1776
01:24:44,482 --> 01:24:46,896
So [bleep] Daniel,
I may be going to his country,
1777
01:24:47,034 --> 01:24:48,758
but I'll never see him.
1778
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,103
Let's get the hell out
of here.
1779
01:25:13,275 --> 01:25:15,344
I have a curse to break.
1780
01:25:15,517 --> 01:25:18,827
I'm having this curse broken
by a church, and I'm gonna be
1781
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,931
cleansed and blessed
and prayed over.
1782
01:25:22,068 --> 01:25:25,586
I'm looking forward to having
the life I've always wanted.
1783
01:25:25,758 --> 01:25:27,655
Ty and I already have
a honeymoon picked out,
1784
01:25:27,827 --> 01:25:29,103
and I'm not even engaged yet.
1785
01:25:30,517 --> 01:25:32,172
-Bye.
-[producer speaking]
1786
01:25:32,344 --> 01:25:35,137
Thank you so much
for everything.
1787
01:25:35,310 --> 01:25:36,482
It's a new day.
It's a new me.
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