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Heat. Hey, Heat.

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>> All units stand by. Suspect Paul Gregory

approaching.

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>> Hannah. Aely

11year-old girl

just assort you like

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some evil pervert abducted her.

Bastard who took her did it in exactly

the same way as [music] it did Trudy

Hibbert.

You remember her now, don't you?

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[screaming]

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I was innocent.

>> Yeah, of course you were. We saw the

pictures on the news. We saw you walk

free.

It's strange how Bradfield police never

looks anywhere else for the murderer.

Don't you think

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>> Oh my god.

of young female, teens, maybe early 20s.

>> Any idea? No, but fairly distinctive

clothing found by a jogger.

>> You got his statement?

>> Not yet. They had to take him to

hospital. Suspected heart attack.

>> Number two. What the hell is this?

>> Can I trust you? For any woman, that's

the big question. Tony,

>> I can't answer that. Trust is for you to

decide. The less I tell, the more you

see me, and we like that.

You do like seeing me, don't you, Tony?

>> I wouldn't be here, Maggie, if it wasn't

important.

>> That's a cruel answer to my question.

Try this then, and I'll know if you're

lying.

Am I the only woman in your life?

Am I?

I guess you are.

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>> Oh, funny.

You really can only maintain

relationships with patients, can't you?

Can't you?

Can't you?

Car is registered to a Sonia Alice

Brooks of Stinton. One of the trolley

boys found her shopping over there.

Purse was still in her bag. Credit cards

were in the same name.

>> We sure it's her.

>> Same pattern of tissues and the glove

boxes were found on her body. Girl who

rents a room off her reported Sonia

missing last night. She was 20.

>> Family.

>> We're on to it. The uh till receipt was

timed at 20:35 last night. She's come

out of the lift. We think the attack

happened by the car. Keys were on the

ground. It's pretty quiet here that time

of night.

>> Well, someone was waiting for her and

they had a car. Robbery wasn't the

motive. Check the instore security

footage. See if anyone was following

her. And I want to know the names of

everyone who paid by check or credit

card in the store last night.

Why?

Why abduct her? And why subject her to a

death like that?

Dr. Hill,

>> we won't be calling you as an expert

witness. The defendant has changed his

plea to guilty.

>> Right.

Carol

>> Spencer.

>> Hi.

>> Pleasant surprise.

>> Yeah. Didn't know you were in today.

>> No, I've just had to get a restraining

order on Aaron husband. Families, eh?

You tiptoed out early this morning.

Everything okay?

>> Yeah. Yeah, I was needed.

>> Wasn't me then.

>> You got time for a coffee?

>> No, I've got to catch up with someone.

>> Yeah, of course.

>> Well, listen. I'll um see you tonight.

>> Yeah, actually, Spencer, I'm not sure

I'm going to be around this thing.

Something's come up. So,

>> sure. I'll leave it to you.

Can you not do that?

>> What?

>> Sorry. Creep up on people.

>> I was not. I got your message. You

wanted to see me. Who was that?

>> Spencer.

He's a lawyer.

>> I know. Place is full of Sir. What is

this? Business pleasure.

>> What do you think?

My guess is she's been partially

suffocated by the bag over her head and

then strangled

>> manually.

>> No, no, no. A rope. You can see the

bruising.

>> No rope found at the scene.

>> Tape around the hands and feet and a bag

tape around her head.

>> How was the tape cut? Teeth?

>> Neat cut. Probably scissors.

There is an unusual staining around the

mouth. A black smear. I've taken some

swabs. Having them tested.

>> Clothing. undisturbed.

>> You sure?

>> Intact when we found her.

>> Sometimes what you find is not

necessarily what happened.

>> Well, there was no evidence of a sexual

assault. No scratches on the abdomen or

genitals, but she has had sex. Absence

of bruising suggests it was consensual.

I'm running a DNA profile from the

seaman.

>> So, the sex act was separate from the

death. this card on her body.

>> A number two very precise black felt pen

was pinned on her.

>> So no attempt made to conceal the body.

No sticks, no leaves, no earth, no

unusual patterns left nearby.

Any jewelry taken? Hair cut off.

Skin, toes, fingers removed.

>> No,

just left where she died.

>> She looks young for 20.

That's when you should be most alive.

>> So, tell me about it.

>> Uh, normal girl, new parents, left

school at 18, worked in the Bradfield

Building Society ever since.

>> Usual dress.

>> Uh, away from work, Oxfam chic. She

wasn't a short skirt and stiletto girl,

if that's what you mean. And she wasn't

with anyone. Who did she have sex with?

>> I didn't know you're quite so

oldfashioned, Carol. Do women have to be

going out with someone to have sex these

days?

>> It helps.

>> Did she know her killer?

>> I'd say her killer certainly knew her.

Although she knew her killer is a

different story.

>> What were you doing when you were 20?

>> Annie, got statements from my parents

yet. Brandon wanted a quick look over

them. Brandon.

>> Sir.

>> Well, I need to know what's going on.

>> You could always ask me.

>> I could do if we had time, but since we

have a press conference in 15 minutes,

which you'll be giving with me, I don't

want my trousers around my ankles.

>> 15 minutes? Well, that's very kind of

you.

>> Been through the in store tapes.

>> Nothing.

We've seen this before. It's poor

Gregory. 3 years ago, an 11year-old girl

from the Parkfield estate was abducted

from the road outside her house.

She was found 3 weeks later in Driftton

Woods. Trudy Hibbert. She'd been

strangled. Had a supermarket carrier bag

over her head. We never managed to

secure a [music] conviction against Paul

Gregory for Trudy Hibbit's murder. He's

back in Bradfield and he started killing

again. This was number two.

Three years ago, September 22nd,

it was a Monday, late afternoon.

Young Tudy Hibbit was playing in the

garden with a friend

approximately 3:15.

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>> tights.

Her own tights.

>> And was she sexually assaulted?

>> No. And we never found any DNA. Two

years ago, it came to trial.

>> And was he the right man?

>> I know he was. Poor Gregory should have

gone down. We had lots of circumstantial

evidence, enough we thought to convict

him.

>> Walked away scot-free.

A couple of months back, he was the

prime suspect for a girl's abduction up

in Old Bridge. And like here, he did it.

We just couldn't prove it.

We've all said it. Sonia looked very

young. Forensic strangled by blue nylon

tow rope.

>> Blue rope. Blue tight.

>> I think we should pull Gregory in. The

person that killed Trudy Hippet also

killed Sonia Brooks.

>> Maybe Don.

If he was found not guilty, anything

relating to that Trudy case will pull

Gregory is inadmissible.

>> I feel it in my gut. We are looking for

the same killer. I think Gregory is

taunting us because we couldn't nail him

for killing Trudy. I feel it here. You

see if I'm not right.

>> She was reported missing wearing a

jumper. Where is it?

>> You never found it.

>> Well, I need to give it more thought,

but from what I've seen, no connection.

>> My gut against your head.

>> This sounds like a fair contest.

I think this beautiful

Oliver Hibbert, Jeff Taylor, Bradfield

Echo.

>> I have nothing to say to you. I just

wonder you heard about the murder of

Sonia Brooks. Do you know how similar

the circumstances are to your daughter's

death?

>> Do you think the two cases could be

linked?

What do you think of Paul Gregory being

free?

>> It's too early to rule anything in or

out at this stage. What we're

concentrating on today and what we're

appealing for is help in finding the

killer of Sonia Brook.

>> So, you're saying there could be a link

to the Trudy Hibbert murder?

>> Why couldn't they use the press

conference? the direct appeal. Why do

they have to prejudge some link and then

make it bigger?

>> Because the Trudy Murder has never been

sold. Wouldn't be doing their job if

they didn't draw attention to it.

>> I can feel it already. You know, the is

it isn't it link's going to get in the

way.

>> Well, if they are, you're in the middle

of something extremely political.

The killer, the force couldn't catch us

back and everything that goes with it.

We don't have any ground coriander.

>> Uh-oh. I'm more of a heat and serve

girl.

>> And if they aren't linked, then it's

still a minefield. Making sure you don't

make the same mistakes they did and let

history repeat itself.

>> Maybe you should think about comparing

the cases. At least that's what I'd do

if it came to trial.

>> I've already asked Tony to have a look

at it. He's not sure they're linked.

>> Tony?

>> Yeah, our clinical psychologist.

>> What do you think? It's your case. Well,

look, I deal in evidence.

Something crops up, we look at it,

examine it, and then make a decision on

it. Right now, all I have are opinions.

Anyway, why don't you buy curry sauce in

a jar? It's much easier.

>> Carol, Jordan,

>> forensic have just come back without

staining around her mouth, and I thought

you'd know immediately.

>> What was it?

>> Well, it's a weird one.

Sorry.

>> Dealing with evidence.

Don't worry. They say it tastes nicer

after it's got cold. Warm it up when you

get back. Heat and serve.

>> You don't have to go.

>> Go on. I'll let myself out.

Tights, neck, bag, tights, neck, bag.

Bag is after tights, tights on sex,

tights on body. Where's the secret? But

bag, tape, rope. Bag is before tape

before rope. Bag.

There's a hood. [music]

A hood and rope.

A hood and rope. Hood and rope. All

right.

I assume that means come in.

I was right. There is no connection.

Completely distinct, completely

separate.

The Trudy murder was a sexual murder of

a little girl.

>> Is certain?

>> Well, although she wasn't sexually

assaulted, the absence of DNA and the

use of tights suggests a pedophile with

other sexual dysfunctions who at the

moment of perceived rejection has no

option but to kill. The tights were

underneath the bag. Death before the

bag.

Covering her face after death equals

guilt. Acknowledges remorse.

>> The Sonia murder isn't like that.

>> So Sonia's murder is not sexual at all.

>> No. No frenzy, no excitement.

These sexual predators choose their

victims in the same way we would choose

partners. Hair, teeth, neck, smile,

walk.

Where we would see the possibility of

sex, they see the arousal of death.

Or if she knew her killer, he could have

been an ex-lover.

>> Oh, then he wouldn't kill like he did.

You've rejected me.

But you're rightfully mine. I want you.

I have to show you how wrong you are. I

have to reason with you.

But you don't want me.

I'm frustrated

and I can't have you. No one can. So I

use what's to hand. A rock of bricks,

wood, possibly strangulation. But it's

manual face to face.

>> You don't bind my hands or feet

>> or put a hood over your head. No,

because that isn't a sexual crime. That

>> is an execution.

>> Execution.

Finding the hands, finding the feet,

hood, over the head, then the rope.

>> And their numbers are what? Victims,

targets.

>> Didn't they used to put cards on deserts

in the First World War?

>> Don't know yet.

>> Why was she executed?

>> It's not my department.

>> And why would she have newsprint all

around her mouth?

>> Newsprint?

>> That's what the staining was.

That's why I came over

>> on a mouth.

>> Have you eaten?

>> No.

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>> Oh, I'm sorry, N. I'm sorry.

I know I said I was leaving, but I have

a perfectly good excuse,

>> which is

>> I missed you.

>> Good night.

That's me, See you tomorrow.

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>> Not like

My god.

What you found?

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>> What are you

No, please.

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got an ID. Diana Nolan, 52 years old.

Grandmother

>> looks like the same man, I'm afraid.

Plastic bag, tape, same method of

strangulation.

>> Did she have a number?

>> Number three.

>> Third victim. You sure Trudy Hibbert

wasn't the first?

>> Sure as I can be.

>> How was she found? In full view, so you

couldn't miss her.

>> Owner of the burger van arrived to open

up for breakfast. Nearly ran over her.

>> You're not stopping the passing traffic.

>> Well, if all the chances of someone

passing, having seen something were

pretty remote. These people going to

work wouldn't have been up in the middle

of the night. Not for witnesses for the

killer. They want you to find the body.

They need to know that you have.

You question the traffic, you'll

question the killer. Damn.

>> You're right about the bodies.

>> We haven't found the first victim.

>> Executions.

Right now, we're not sure why.

Tony doesn't believe these are random

victims. The manner of the death

suggests not just a great deal of

planning, but also deeply held

resentment.

>> What do you think? I believe there's a

link between these two women.

>> Which two?

>> Diana Nolan and Sonia Brooks.

>> There's no connection with Trudy Hibbit.

>> Separate crime, different perpetrator,

just outwardly similar.

>> You know, her father's already talking

to the press, don't you? You seen these

cr incompetence, evidential failures,

procedural nightmares, our life of hell.

>> I wasn't here then, sir.

>> No, I was.

We placed all the checks, all the credit

card transactions at the Millan

Hypermarket around the time of Sonia's

abduction. Nothing. Well, then go over

them again.

Right. I want every part of Diana

Nolan's life turned upside down. Every

part of that woman's life looked into.

Go back over the statements we took

after Sonia's murder. Something connects

these women.

I want a trace on the card and the tape.

Who makes it? Who stocks it? Where'd you

buy it,

>> Kevin? Tow rope.

>> Done it. But this type is sold in all

the shops.

>> So, have you been to the mall?

That rope was bought somewhere.

And have we chased up these bags before

they became murder weapons? Those bags

had a previous life. Where?

There's a chain of evidence here that'll

lead us to our man. We just need the

first link.

You should sleep more.

>> I was working.

>> It's important to let the mind rest.

It's rather difficult in here.

All sorts of ghosts come out at night to

haunt you.

>> Do you see their faces?

>> A mixture.

Voices come first.

Voices are always the worst.

Are

>> they pleading with you? Asking for

remorse?

Oh, no.

Most of them are happy. Happy for what I

did to them. And the ones that aren't,

I make them eat their words and then

they're happy.

>> You do what?

I make them eat their words.

Yes.

>> Newspaper.

>> The strangulation kept some of it in the

gullet. Is it readable?

>> Some of the words.

>> There'll be some inside Sonia Brooks as

well.

>> Why does he do this? Why does he make

them eat newspaper?

The answer will be in Wine.

>> I'll run them up to forensics. Then they

can let you have some photo copies.

Okay. This is the addition from 3 years

ago.

>> Trudy Hibbit.

They made Sonia eat this.

>> Can I ask what your interest is?

>> Professional.

>> And that's from two months ago

>> inside Diana. They make them eat these.

>> Why do they make them eat these?

[snorts] This has been really helpful.

>> Don, I owe you an apology.

>> It's not a whole one. It's just half a

one. But it is an apology.

>> What the hell are you talking about?

>> The link. The link between our victims.

I know the link. The newsprint around

the mouth. You know why it didn't make

sense? Because they'd eaten it. Sonia

and Diana were forced to eat newspaper.

We find fragments in their throat.

>> What's that got to do with me?

>> Because Don, this was inside Sonia from

3 years ago. Trudy Verdict, not guilty.

And this from 2 months ago was inside

Diana. Kidnapped girl Trudy Link. Both

of them were made their words about

Trudy. The killer is literally making

them eat their words about her.

>> What words?

>> Their words at the trial for Trudy's

murder.

>> What did they say?

>> They said not guilty. They let Paul

Gregory go free. And now they're being

made to eat their words.

>> Diana and Sonia were on the jury.

>> Yes.

>> If you're right, you know where this

leaves us

>> with 10 more possible victims.

None wanted to come.

She's gone to see Dr. Leech about her

back. She can't really travel.

Sends her love.

And Smoke has been poorly. Did dad tell

you?

Vet thinks it's fur balls.

How's that?

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[crying]

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[panting and laughter]

>> Forgive your mother, love. She's finding

it hard at the moment.

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We haven't forgotten next week.

I need you to get me protection for the

remaining jury members.

>> 24 hours a day, two man teams.

>> Yeah, he's already killed two. Tony

thinks possibly three. There's nothing

to suggest he'll stop until he's killed

all of them.

>> So, what have you got? Okay, we know the

killer was close to the trial. The

numbers we found on them aren't victim

numbers.

>> What are they?

>> Jury numbers. To know that, he must have

been in court.

>> The trigger for the killings was the

abduction of an 11-year-old girl up in

Old Bridge,

>> for which Paul Gregory was their prime

suspect.

>> And the killer's mind, if the jury had

convicted him of Trudy's murder, then

this second girl would have been spared

the ordeal. The style of execution shows

us that the killer believes they're

delivering justice.

All

right, Karen, if that's what you want,

I'll get it for you.

>> I also want to question Oliver Hibbert.

It's the rational and proper thing to

do. Her parents have the strongest

motive. Revenge.

Who would you blame if they let your

daughter's killer go free?

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Okay, this is the jury list.

As you can see, all we have are names

and postcodes. I want them found. Some

will have moved, immigrated. I don't

care. We find them. We make sure they're

all right. We sit on them.

>> Treat the remaining female jurors as

priority. This was a crime against a

child. Women are meant to protect

children.

>> Right. Let's get moving.

>> Glad you could join us. Find anything

out?

>> No. Go.

Hello.

Who is this?

Who is this?

Mr. Ashworth. Luke Ashworth.

>> Yeah. And you've got the same sort of

security locks on the upstairs window.

>> You still haven't told me what this is

about.

>> Two years ago, you're on a jury, Mrs.

Lawson.

>> That's right.

>> Well, someone doesn't like the verdict

you came to. Two of your colleagues have

been found dead.

Get her a glass of water.

Jean,

are you all right? What's happened?

>> Francis Jones.

>> Francine.

>> Francine. Thanks.

>> [sighs]

>> Have luck.

>> Mr. Hibbert,

I'm Detective Inspector Carol Jordan,

Bradfield Police. I was wondering if I

could ask you a few questions. I've got

nothing whatsoever to say to you.

>> Who is it?

>> Someone new.

>> I'm so sorry, Mrs. Hbert. I need to ask

you a few questions. I'm conducting a

murder inquiry.

>> Really? How ironic.

>> I realize this must be very difficult

for you both, but I'd really appreciate

your cooperation.

>> We cooperated with Bradfield Police

Department for over 18 months. We put

all our trust into them.

>> What makes you so different, Mr. Di

Jordan?

>> This isn't about Trudy's case, Mr.

Hibbert. Well, what else could there

possibly be that I'd want to talk to you

about?

>> Sonia Brooks, Diana Nolan.

>> Got nothing to say to you,

>> boss.

>> Perhaps we should leave it for now.

>> Miss Jeremmes.

>> Hello.

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>> A black victim.

Sexually motivated killings rarely cross

racial lines. Confirms our killer's

motivation as justice and revenge.

>> No doubt she was the first victim we've

been looking for.

>> Absolutely.

All women and all on the jury.

>> Just one left. Jean Lawson.

>> I know exactly the type of person who's

doing this. Classic anal retentive.

They believe nobody has listened to them

and the murders are the only way they

can make their point and to be listened

to.

>> Go on.

>> Over the age of 35, average to above

average intelligence,

product of a disciplined but not abusive

upbringing. Father figure was someone in

authority. Could have been a prison

officer or a policeman.

>> His dad was in the army.

>> Who? Obsessively neat and tidy in

everything they do. House, car, job,

clothes. Convinced in their own view of

right and wrong, they believe they are

the arbittors of justice.

>> Damn.

>> I should have stuck to my guns with it,

but no wonder he slammed the door in my

face.

Married?

>> Yes or no? If they are, it'll be a

traditional marriage with set tasks

split between the partners. They won't

have many friends.

The only relationships they have will be

at work.

But it'll be a mundane job where they

have some sort of authority over others.

>> Well, Oliver Hibbit won't talk to us.

I've got no choice.

>> I'll have to arrest him.

>> Brandon would love that.

>> Get a warrant for his arrest.

The car's going to come through.

Inspector charged.

What are they charging? What are they

charging all about?

>> What does he [music] do?

>> He works in purchasing for a chain of

high street chemists.

>> He works with numbers inside his house.

Excessively neat

>> from what I've seen. Yeah.

>> Carry on. I'm not here.

If you say so, sir.

Mr.

>> Have you spoken to your honor, Mr.

Anything you'd like to say?

>> I'm representing Mr. Mrs. Hibbit. I'd

like immediate access to my client,

please.

>> As you will remember, Mr. Hibbert, I

would have preferred to have had this

interview in far more relaxed

circumstances

and away from the glare of publicity.

Don't apologize, Carol. You let him off

the hook.

>> Well, we've left all that outside now,

so we can do away with any pretends.

>> I hope she knows what she's doing.

>> What do you want?

>> I'm investigating a triple murder, Mr.

Hibbert.

>> Is that more important than a single

murder?

>> No. We prosecuted the case. The jury.

>> The case.

The case was my daughter. She was

murdered and you let the killer go.

>> No, the jury let him go.

>> How did you feel when that happened, Mr.

Ever?

>> I couldn't imagine it.

>> No, you're right there. You couldn't

imagine for one moment what it's like

detective inspector

to lose your daughter

and find the killer and be promised

justice

to watch a non pedophile with previous

convictions just walk away.

Ask him what's his view of justice.

>> What would have been justice?

>> Life.

Guilty with a life sentence. Did you

kill Sonia Brooks?

>> He won't be out there now walking the

streets

>> interfering with other kids destroying

their lives

>> or Francine Jeremy's

>> PROTECTED BY THE LAW THAT FAILED my

Trudy. Where the victims in this? WE GOT

THE LIFE SENTENCE. HE GOT

>> I WILL ASK YOU AGAIN, MR. HIBBERT. Where

were you on the night in question?

>> I have no idea.

>> Detective Inspector, this line of

inquiry is not getting you anywhere. Do

you have anything of substance to say to

my client?

Do you have any proof of these

allegations?

There he is. There he is. Now

>> my clients will be making a full

statement later in the assume he's been

released for Gregory.

>> It's Gregory.

>> KILL HIM. Kill him.

I'll kill you. I'll do you what YOU DID

TO YOUR F AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE THAT.

GET OFF. GET OFF. GET HIM ALIVE.

You need to make a statement.

>> I um I want to confess to murder.

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WHY WAS THIS FUNNY?

Diana Nolan and Francine Jeremy's

killed them. Why was he never

KILLING CAROL? WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO

THIS?

>> Why was he never a suspect?

>> Paul Gregory did not do it. He did not

kill the three women jurors.

>> Yeah. All right, Tony. I hear you.

>> He didn't do it, Carol. He's the wrong

man.

>> Can you just shut up, please? You're not

helping. What am I supposed to do?

Release him because you say so.

>> No, I'm just saying he didn't do it.

>> Three women are dead. Women who said he

was not guilty.

Brandon and the press are screaming for

an arrest.

>> Let me go to bridge and talk to Hannah

Kil.

>> Why?

>> Because if he abducted her, then she's

the only person that would have survived

a meeting with him.

>> And when we know how he operates, it can

prove or disprove his admission of

murder.

>> Well, I thought she hadn't spoken since

the attack.

>> Even more reason to go.

You sure you don't want a solicitor?

>> No.

>> Okay, let him sweat for a few hours,

then take his flat apart.

Keep him out.

>> Don't rush. We don't want to miss

anything.

Got plenty of time.

He's not going anywhere.

gone.

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You know Hannah Kilty was released here.

You know where she was taken, but apart

from that, you don't know exactly what

happened to her.

>> No, she hasn't spoken since. No one can

get to talk about what she went through.

Though we do have a good idea from the

way her clothing was ripped.

>> Ripped?

>> Any seaman or the DNA?

She was tested.

>> Yeah, she was. Yeah. And no, couldn't

find anything on her.

>> One reason why we couldn't charge poor

Gregory.

>> Her clothes ripped across her downwards.

downwards.

>> And when she was found, shoes on or off?

>> She was barefoot. We never found her

shoes.

>> Her knickers were missing as well,

weren't they?

>> Where'd you get all this?

>> The perpetrator. He is what he does to

his victim.

>> He knew the area. So why here? Why this

road?

Why didn't he kill her?

>> I've just had my counterpart from

Oldbridge on the line. It would have

been nice if I'd known what he was

talking about.

Tony and Annie Ree are pursuing part of

the Paul Gregory inquiry. I did actually

square it with the head of their

investigation team.

>> Well, at least his arrest should

outweigh the Hibbit embarrassment. He's

in custody at last.

>> Well, how long he remains there is open

to question.

>> He's made a confession.

>> A simple admission. No more, no less.

>> Don't tell me he's not the man, Carol.

>> We have to be open to that possibility.

Yeah.

>> If there's evidence, there's a charge.

And if there's no evidence,

>> I'm sure you don't want us imprisoning

the wrong man.

>> In Paul Gregory's case, I could make an

exception. Now, you find out, Carol, one

way or the other. Don't let him make a

fool of us.

>> I need something else from you.

We need to go through Gregory's past

convictions and whether any of them has

had even the smallest element of torture

about them.

>> Boy, what were you thinking?

Toby, I cannot wait. I have to make a

start. I have to go.

[music]

>> Is she going to be all right?

>> Well, whatever happened to Hannah's

locked inside her head. It's paying over

and over again, like a looper video,

and she needs to get it out.

>> Yes. But is she going to be all right?

>> I give you my word. I'll take care of

it.

>> I have nothing to add to the statement

I've given.

>> Charge me?

>> I'll charge you when I'm ready to charge

you, Paul. Much as you might like to

think. Otherwise, I'm running this

investigation.

All we're going to do, Hannah, is talk.

And we're only going to talk as much as

you want to.

Now, the minute I ask you something, you

don't want to tell me or inside it feels

uncomfortable.

Just raise a few fingers on your right

hand.

That's all.

You want to practice that?

And what do you do if you don't want to

talk to me?

It's excellent.

And when you do that, you don't have to

answer.

And we'll go back. We'll talk about

something you're more comfortable with.

It means you're in charge.

You boss me about.

>> You admit to killing Sonia Brooks, Diana

Nolan, and Francine Jeremy's.

>> I do.

What is it about children that you like?

Paul,

>> what's it like to have the sexual

[music] urge to inflict pain on a child?

Is that why you killed the jury? You

blamed them for not stopping you hurting

children.

>> So, you came out of your friend's

[music] house. What did you see? That's

okay. Let's go back into the house where

you were playing.

What was it you were doing?

>> Drawing.

>> And whilst you were drawing, mommy rang

you up and asked you to come back for

tea.

So you came [music] out of the house

>> across the road.

I heard someone coming in.

Hannah Kilty was one victim too far,

wasn't she, Paul?

What was it that made you hate yourself?

Did she scream,

cry?

Did she suddenly become a person to you?

What is it, Paul?

Do you disgust yourself?

I've I have nothing to to add to my

statement.

You said

you said mom mommy had asked him to pick

me up cuz she'd gone home.

>> What did he look like?

>> Hannah was the one that made you feel

something.

Whereas Trudy Hibbit, she just rejected

you.

>> I didn't kill Trudy Hibbit.

>> What was it about Hannah Key?

He started shouting at me and made me

take off my shoes. [music]

>> Can you describe him for me?

>> What was it about Hannah?

>> I didn't touch Hannah Ke.

>> He had

white hair.

>> I don't know who she is.

>> It looks a bit like granddad. I didn't

touch it.

>> It was old.

I've never seen that.

Dr. Tail.

Did he?

>> I mean, did he?

>> No.

I'm pleased to be out of a police cell

and back home with my family. Except

that not all my family are here to greet

me. Something which you were all too

keen to cover three years ago.

Well,

nothing has [music] changed. Our

daughter is still dead and her killer is

still free. We won't rest until Trudy's

killer has faced justice.

[music]

>> So, where does that leave us?

>> Paul Gregory's lying

and our killer is still out there.

[music]

The underlying signature of Hannah's

abduction was elementary torture. For

the perpetrator, that's what satisfied

the fantasy. That's why I needed to know

if Gregory had an inclination towards

torture. He hadn't.

All of which means he didn't abduct her.

>> Well, how does this disprove his

admission?

>> If Gregory was killing them, he'd be

driven by self- disgust.

>> That's not there. The signature of these

killings is revenge

>> for Trudy.

Now, look at these previous offenses.

Burglary, indecent exposure to children,

and gross indecency.

They're not the stepping stones for

these type of killings,

>> which means Paul Gregory could be a

target as well, then.

>> Yeah.

>> So, what about the Trudy Hibbit murder?

>> He was found not guilty, Carol. I mean,

there is the possibility he didn't do

it, and the jury were, right? I mean,

his post-defense behavior between the

murder of Trudy and his arrest doesn't

indicate guilt. Well, on the contrary,

he didn't move away. He didn't run. He

didn't hide. He'd only just moved to

Bradfield. People operate in

environments they now know.

And at the time, he didn't know

Bradfield.

And when you mentioned Trudy's name in

questioning, how was he?

Angry, frustrated,

>> upset, emotional, flatly denied killing

her.

>> And unless he's anything but a textbook

case, the world's been wrong all along.

>> I don't believe you killed her.

Okay.

>> How persecuted would you feel?

I'm abused in the street.

Have things thrown at [music] me. Dog

[ __ ] Paint.

Abusive [music] phone calls. Threats.

Windows smashed. Bricks dropped on me.

Van firebombs. You confessed to get off

the street.

>> Well, when you're [music] supposed to

have done what I'm supposed to have

done,

they want me dead.

>> The threats.

>> Do they put them in writing?

>> Oh, yeah.

Yeah. It's [snorts] spelt out [music]

very clearly what I can expect.

>> I'd like to see.

>> I burn them.

>> Ah. How are they written? By hand,

computer.

>> The types nice and neat and

exceptionally detailed.

I'm going to die for my crimes.

[clears throat]

>> You want to give Paul Gregory police

protection?

>> Yes, sir.

>> Why?

>> Because as far as the killer's

concerned, he's the main prize. They

want revenge, even though we know he's

innocent.

>> You're saying Gregory did not kill Trudy

Hibbert?

>> Yes, sir.

>> You're certain?

>> Yes.

>> And the rope in his flat?

>> Forensic came back negative. Completely

different fibers. He's just a convenient

suspect, sir. But he did not kill the

jurors.

>> They're coming. They're coming.

Back off.

BACK OFF.

Open the door.

>> Back up.

I appreciate you coming, Mr. Ashford.

We know the killer was in the courtroom

with you during the trialand gained an

intimate knowledge of you and the rest

of the jury.

What I want to hear is what you saw. her

parents. You just felt for them that

anyone would have to go through that.

>> Did you see anyone taking notes, writing

obsessively?

>> Apart from the press? No.

>> I know you're not allowed to talk about

the deliberations during the trial or

how you came to your verdict. But did

you notice or was anything said that was

unusual?

>> No, nothing.

>> There was debate as there is in all

trials, but in the end it was fairly

unanimous.

I'm going home.

[ __ ]

No.

[ __ ]

The person we're looking for is already

in your system. Somewhere, somehow, this

person has made themselves known to you.

And in some way, you already know who

they are. But part of their character is

never to draw attention to themselves.

So keep this in your head. It's like

some sort of mantra. Ordinary,

obsessive, regimented, retained.

Ordinary, obsessive, regimented,

retained. You're one piece of evidence

away from finding this person.

>> Why didn't you tell me this last night?

>> I thought it could wait. We know where

she is.

>> Tony, could the killer be a woman?

>> Of course.

>> Right. I'm going to have to arrest

Nicola Hibbert. Get a warrant.

Go.

>> Yeah, with you in a second.

>> I'll need to go upstairs, Carol.

>> Upstairs? Downstairs? What's the

difference?

>> Downstairs is a face you want to present

to the world, but upstairs says a lot

more about you.

>> Thank god you've never been in my

bedroom.

>> I mean,

>> I know what you mean.

Mrs. Hibbert, when you come in

>> back on the victimization trail again,

are we?

>> We believe you and your husband have

been conspiring to commit arson, Mrs.

Hibbert, endangering life and property.

>> You don't learn, do you?

>> I want to question you about where you

and your husband were last night. Is he

at home?

>> No, he's at work. You know that. How

long has this been going on before this

personal vendetta against Paul Gregory?

>> You don't even mention his name in my

house.

NOT IN THERE. [screaming]

GET OUT OF THERE. Get out. GET OUT OF

THE ROOM. GET OUT OF THE ROOM.

IT'S her birthday.

She's 14.

[screaming]

>> [screaming]

[laughter]

>> Nicola. NICOLA, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? GET

OFF BACK. GET OFF.

Come on.

HOW COULD YOU TODAY OF ALL DAYS?

DOWNSTAIRS. GO ON. WAY DOWNSTAIRS.

[sighs]

SH.

Oh no.

I just wanted him to be aware of the

miserable living hell that we've been

faced with.

I wanted him to know that

maybe he could escape just his spirit.

He couldn't escape me.

Wherever he went, I'd be there

following him.

reminded him.

I wanted him to feel the pain.

And did you ever target any of the

jurors on the case? [snorts]

I'm going to I didn't know who they

were.

Anyway, it wasn't their fault they

didn't kill her. He did.

[snorts]

[sighs and gasps]

Sleep. [music]

Tony,

you coming?

Brandon wants to see me.

>> They've lost confidence in you, Carol.

They're relieving you of the inquiry.

>> When?

>> After the weekend. They're hoping things

will have calmed down and they can

announce your successor in a positive

light.

Who?

>> DCI Boil

>> media friendly.

>> I'm sorry, Carol.

>> Are you?

>> When was the moment you realized the

killing had to stop?

>> The first time I hated myself.

>> How did you cope with that feeling? I

didn't cope.

It overwhelmed me.

It was a tidal wave of revulsion.

All I saw were lifeless limbs and a

suspended expression.

>> But you killed again.

>> The revulsion was weaker than the urge.

Or maybe the urge got stronger. I became

out of control. did things even I was

ashamed of.

>> So where do I look?

>> Where you the least expected. [music]

If I hadn't left the clues, no one would

have found me.

I was the person everyone overlooked

except you.

I'm only telling you [music] this

because it's you, Tony.

Because I love you

and I know you love me. [music]

Maybe we need to look at it from a wider

angle.

Who feels they haven't been listened to?

Who wrote to the papers? Did the Force

get abusive mail?

>> Yeah, we did. A number of people sent us

all sorts of stuff.

Spencer, look. Do you mind?

It's just that I'm living this and for

one moment each day I'd really like to

be who I am, not what I do.

>> Does that make any sense?

>> Gloriously.

>> Um, I was kind of including personal

space in that.

>> Whatever.

That doesn't rule out that thing you do

to my neck, though.

>> What? This

Carol Jordan,

>> how are you?

Uh,

>> I was just going to bed, actually.

>> Oh, really?

I'm just going through what the jury

said and just planning through the court

record to double check.

>> Do you want me to come over?

>> If you want it.

>> I'll be there in a bit.

>> [music]

[music]

>> Thanks.

Maybe it's not just one person, you

know, maybe it's two.

>> Is that possible? Could it be a couple?

>> Well, when two people kill, they feed

off each other. We'd see more of an

escalation. With each successive death

here, there's minor escalation on within

each death. As well, we'd see an

exploration of two different people.

>> The full play.

>> Exactly.

It's each person teasing the other to go

further.

>> Well, that's not here.

>> Here, there's repression. Our killer

lives in a defined set of parameters.

A dominant and subservient relationship.

>> Dominance and submission.

>> It's what makes the world go around,

Carol. Present in every relationship.

>> Every relationship.

>> In degrees and light and shade.

Even between you and your lawyer, one of

you will be dominant, the other

submissive.

>> Which am I

>> dominant?

I suspect you hardly ever go to hear me.

Always comes to you. I suspect you

decide when you meet, when you don't

meet, and eventually you

will decide the fate of that

relationship.

>> But you don't know that.

>> No, but the man of your denial has just

confirmed it.

>> Okay, then. So, what about between us?

You and me.

>> Yeah. You said every relationship.

>> It's a tough one.

>> That's why I ask

>> turmoil,

small turf wars, [music]

each person fighting the other for

submission.

or to be the [music] most submissive.

>> We're ruling out a couple then.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

Thanks.

>> [sighs]

>> How long is this going to go on for?

>> Not long. We're getting close to the

person responsible by the hour.

>> Look, I know this is difficult, but we

want you to be safe. Mrs. Lawson,

>> the uh others have all been women. Look,

try not to think about it. It's not

going to happen.

[music]

Australia.

[music]

Ken Elliot, 60-year-old widowerower,

bagged, taped, bound, and strangled.

Newspaper soaked in petrol. He was also

repeatedly stabbed in the leg with

scissors, and had his skull fractured by

a blood instrument. Could have been a

way to get him to eat something he

really didn't want to eat.

>> They moved on to petrol to terrorize,

have changed the sex, have increased the

violence. For someone so organized, this

is a major departure.

>> Why did they go for Gene Lawson? I

thought you said they were going to wipe

out the women first.

What is it we are missing here? What is

it we're not seeing?

>> Nothing. On the contrary, Carol, what

we've just seen is incredibly

significant.

>> Tell me all of it. What have we just

seen?

>> The beginning of the end. What's

happening here is that the escalation in

violence is born out of frustration.

But the end is in sight, Carol.

The next victim will either be Paul

Gregory or Jean Lawson.

I've forgotten something. Can I leave

this with you?

One moment. [music]

Gravy granules.

Where's the trolley?

Are you going to the station, David?

>> No, I'll go later.

>> We need to turn left here.

The nurse happened there,

but I don't know if maybe [music] some

kind of domestic

[music]

go Tony scene of crime videos.

Okay. What you see here is the scene of

crime of Francine and Jeremy's. And here

is the arrival of a Navy blue rover.

Drive past 9:07.

And look, the end of the road where Ken

Elliot was murdered. The time here 910.

The same car.

>> You're sure

>> it's the same car?

>> Right. Find the owner.

Go. We've got the rich donor.

>> David Lawson. It's Jean's husband. She's

living with the killer.

>> What does he do?

>> Did do early retirement. He was an

auditor.

>> Yeah. Mundane, ordered, repetitive. What

else?

>> They met at work. They were working

together. She was in a number crunching

department.

>> Where'd you get all this?

>> Kevin. His living with them.

>> Phone.

>> Thanks.

>> Hello.

>> Listen.

>> Don't identify that it's us you're

speaking to. Okay.

>> Uh, yeah.

>> Captain's turning.

>> Are either of the Lawson with you in the

room?

Well, not a present, but it might be

likely at any time.

>> I want you to be my eyes in that house.

Do you understand?

>> Okay.

>> I want you to go into the living room.

>> Yeah.

>> Are there any books on the wall?

>> Well, you mean on shelves?

>> No.

>> How would you describe the house? Normal

and tidy, neat, or obsessive?

>> Uh, the latter.

If it's possible, can you give me an

example of that?

>> Um, TV times folded to today's date.

>> More than that.

>> Well, this isn't a good room for that.

Uh,

what's going on here?

>> I'll tell you in a minute. Just do as I

ask.

>> Sorry. Who is that?

Kevin,

>> when are you finished?

>> Yeah, it might take some time. Just

wonder where Jean was.

>> Uh upstairs, I think. Thanks, Kevin. Was

that David Lawson?

>> It was just as long be now getting

stationary.

>> Stationary.

>> Tell you the roads get busier every day.

I'll make you a cup of tea.

Oh jeez.

Yeah, absolute straight lines. Portions

of stuff boxed up and everything. I

mean, everything has a label.

Uh, I was just looking for the coffee.

It's the third jar from the left in the

end cupboard.

>> You have to switch it on at the wall.

>> Oh, right.

>> Why? What's going on there? How's the

world of law and order?

>> We just picked him up. What for?

Suspicion of having a neat house. He's

the man we're looking for. He fits your

profile, Tony. Come on.

>> Yes, he does.

>> But there's something missing. I mean,

what's driving him? Why set out to kill

a group of people of which your wife is

a member? She should be a victim.

>> Unless he doesn't think she's to blame.

Get him back.

>> Will someone please tell me what the

hell is going on here? Or are you just

leaving it to my imagination? Kevin, is

there a study in their house? A place of

work for administration?

>> Yeah, upstairs. I haven't been in.

>> I need you to get in. Have a look

around. The person we're looking for

will have written detailed diaries of

the killing. So, the type of person who

feels they haven't been listened to, so

they've written everything down.

>> What exactly am I looking for?

>> You'll know when you see it.

>> A book, a journal. It won't be hidden.

This person thinks what they're doing is

right, so it'll be easily to hand.

>> I'll try.

>> I'll call you back.

What are you expecting?

>> The more I reason with it, the more

certain it becomes.

>> What becomes?

>> The verdict. When Gregory was found not

guilty,

>> we need some milk. Does anyone want

anything from the shop?

No, but that's okay. You go. Make sure

you take Bob with you, Jean. Bob,

>> it's all right. He's here.

[music]

[music]

[music]

>> You in?

>> Yeah.

>> [music]

>> It won't be far from you, Kevin.

>> Just think where you would normally

reach to and just describe anything you

suspect.

There's tape here. Tony Rose.

[music]

[music]

>> [music]

[music]

[music]

[music]

>> It's him, Tony.

It's him.

What are you doing,

>> Kevin? It's not

>> IT'S NOT HIM. IT'S HER.

>> HOW COULD IT BE HER?

>> Because Paul Gregory was found not

guilty by a majority verdict. 11 to1.

One person believed him to be guilty.

Jean Lawson.

Good God.

>> 375 to control over.

>> Where will she go? Tony

>> Gregory. He's all she's got left.

Yeah.

>> Listen, Jean Lawson's the killer. She's

on her way over to him now. Don't let

him out your sight.

[music]

Heat.

Heat.

>> [music]

>> Eat

this beauty.

Sweet eyes.

[music]

[music]

[music]

>> [music]

>> Did we do it? He deserved his

punishment. Get her out of here.

>> You know I'm right. It was him.

>> [music]

[music]

[music]

>> La. [music]

>> [music]

[music]

>> I [music] hate myself for believing you.

>> [music]

[music]

>> Tony,

Tony,

you

>> okay?

>> I don't think so.

>> Tell Merrick he's a better man than me.

>> Hey, will you let me give you a lift?

>> Not right now, Carl. I need the air.

Even she was right.

>> Still doesn't excuse the murder of four

people, though, does it?

>> I believed him.

>> I'll come over and see you later.

>> I don't know when.

>> I don't care. I'm coming over.

>> What about Spencer?

>> It's over.

>> Why didn't you tell me?

>> I did.

just not in words.

[music]

You just couldn't read my mind.

[music]

[music]

Oh, [music]

[music]

[music]

heat, heat.

>> [music]

[music]

>> Heat. Heat.

>> [music]