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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,913 --> 00:00:02,480 it's funny, isn't it? 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,135 dead cars are quite beautiful in their way, 3 00:00:05,135 --> 00:00:07,094 whereas dead people-- not so much.huh? 4 00:00:07,094 --> 00:00:09,139 i suppose if we were cars, 5 00:00:09,139 --> 00:00:11,750 this place would be a horrific charnel house. 6 00:00:11,750 --> 00:00:13,709 ugh. it's too early for philosophy. 7 00:00:13,709 --> 00:00:15,102 never too early. 8 00:00:15,102 --> 00:00:16,712 hey, cho! 9 00:00:16,712 --> 00:00:18,888 hey. 10 00:00:18,888 --> 00:00:21,238 over here. i got something to show you. 11 00:00:26,069 --> 00:00:28,071 hey, we've got an unidentified female, 12 00:00:28,071 --> 00:00:31,248 somewhere in her late teens, early 20s. 13 00:00:31,248 --> 00:00:33,598 oh, wow. a little notice would've been nice. 14 00:00:33,598 --> 00:00:35,600 be grateful it's wintertime. 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,124 it could be a lot worse. 16 00:00:37,124 --> 00:00:38,690 looks like she was bludgeoned multiple times 17 00:00:38,690 --> 00:00:41,302 around her left temple. there's some serious 18 00:00:41,302 --> 00:00:44,609 blunt force trauma to the back of her head as well.somebody wanted her good and dead. 19 00:00:44,609 --> 00:00:47,221 how long has she been down? from the decomposition of the body, 20 00:00:47,221 --> 00:00:50,528 she's probably been out here at least a week. is that the guy who found her? 21 00:00:50,528 --> 00:00:52,356 yeah, came across the victim 22 00:00:52,356 --> 00:00:55,185 when he was combing through the van.it looks like somebody 23 00:00:55,185 --> 00:00:56,969 took something off of her after she was already here.a watch or a bracelet, i'm guessing. 24 00:00:56,969 --> 00:00:59,668 left the earrings though. found a set of tracks over there. 25 00:00:59,668 --> 00:01:02,627 i think they're connected.it's a salvage area. there'd have to be lots of tracks. 26 00:01:02,627 --> 00:01:05,587 yeah, it's a long shot, but there weren't many tracks 27 00:01:05,587 --> 00:01:08,068 in the area, and these look pretty fresh. 28 00:01:10,157 --> 00:01:11,549 smells like transmission fluid. 29 00:01:11,549 --> 00:01:13,160 that's what i thought. 30 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,336 i'll have forensics run some tests. 31 00:01:15,336 --> 00:01:18,382 now if a vehicle with a leaking transmission made the track, 32 00:01:18,382 --> 00:01:20,993 then the driver couldn't have gone far without service. 33 00:01:20,993 --> 00:01:23,735 hey, what's-- what's his name?franklin. 34 00:01:23,735 --> 00:01:25,128 cool, it boy. 35 00:01:25,128 --> 00:01:27,565 may i? i have a way with dogs. 36 00:01:27,565 --> 00:01:30,046 hey, franklin. how are you? 37 00:01:30,046 --> 00:01:32,179 yeah, you're a good boy. 38 00:01:32,179 --> 00:01:35,182 i thought you said you had a way with dogs. 39 00:01:35,182 --> 00:01:36,748 he wanted freedom. 40 00:01:36,748 --> 00:01:38,098 franklin! heel! 41 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:40,535 keep up, lisbon! 42 00:01:40,535 --> 00:01:42,145 franklin! 43 00:01:43,973 --> 00:01:46,671 what's that? franklin, come. 44 00:01:46,671 --> 00:01:48,456 come on now. 45 00:01:48,456 --> 00:01:50,284 get out of there, franklin. 46 00:01:50,284 --> 00:01:53,113 aah! it's a foot! 47 00:01:53,113 --> 00:01:54,288 ohh! 48 00:01:58,335 --> 00:02:01,077 another body. are you done? 49 00:02:01,077 --> 00:02:04,733 hey, what do you say, franklin? are we done yet? huh, we done? 50 00:02:17,702 --> 00:02:20,357 the test confirmed there was a lot of transmission fluid 51 00:02:20,357 --> 00:02:22,664 in that track at the scene. 52 00:02:22,664 --> 00:02:25,841 and the tire pattern only fits a few specific van models.i'm checking garages 53 00:02:25,841 --> 00:02:28,060 to see if any vehicles fitting the description 54 00:02:28,060 --> 00:02:30,062 were turned in with transmission problems 55 00:02:30,062 --> 00:02:33,414 over the last week.all right. cho, you mind helping him out? 56 00:02:35,024 --> 00:02:37,026 is there a problem here?no. 57 00:02:37,026 --> 00:02:40,725 no, ma'am.great. i see a name. did we i.d. the victims? 58 00:02:40,725 --> 00:02:42,727 only on one. got a hit on her prints. 59 00:02:42,727 --> 00:02:44,729 it's for the second victim you found. 60 00:02:44,729 --> 00:02:47,079 her name was valerie bestin. no next of kin. 61 00:02:47,079 --> 00:02:50,126 she was arrested four years ago after hitting a homeless man 62 00:02:50,126 --> 00:02:53,390 while driving drunk.the m.e. puts her time of death within the last 24 hours. 63 00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:54,870 bestin was bludgeoned in the same manner 64 00:02:54,870 --> 00:02:57,089 as the first victim. 65 00:02:57,089 --> 00:03:00,136 what about an i.d. on the other victim?her prints haven't come up yet. 66 00:03:00,136 --> 00:03:02,138 the m.e. pegs her as latina, early 20s. 67 00:03:02,138 --> 00:03:04,488 do a preliminary search of the missing persons database. 68 00:03:04,488 --> 00:03:06,447 maybe we'll get lucky.yes, ma'am. 69 00:03:06,447 --> 00:03:08,449 all right, we've got two victims--one caucasian, 70 00:03:08,449 --> 00:03:10,364 the other probably latina. 71 00:03:10,364 --> 00:03:12,670 at least a 10-year age gap between them, 72 00:03:12,670 --> 00:03:15,282 and judging by their clothes, valerie had more money. 73 00:03:15,282 --> 00:03:19,068 but both were bludgeoned and dumped in the same place 74 00:03:19,068 --> 00:03:21,723 one week after the other. what's the connection?library, bowling alley, nail salon. could be anything. 75 00:03:21,723 --> 00:03:22,985 well, let's focus on what we doknow. 76 00:03:22,985 --> 00:03:25,466 what about the homeless guy bestin hit? 77 00:03:25,466 --> 00:03:29,121 he's been in a secure mental facility since last year.speaking of mental facilities, 78 00:03:29,121 --> 00:03:31,820 have you seen jane? i need to talk to him. 79 00:03:34,562 --> 00:03:36,520 jane? 80 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,870 hmm? 81 00:03:38,870 --> 00:03:40,263 where's my couch? 82 00:03:40,263 --> 00:03:42,352 oh. 83 00:03:42,352 --> 00:03:44,702 yes. i bought you a new one. 84 00:03:44,702 --> 00:03:46,878 i like my old couch.no, you don't. 85 00:03:46,878 --> 00:03:50,012 you've gotta try this one.let's discuss it later. we have to talk. 86 00:03:50,012 --> 00:03:52,275 have you ever been into knitting?what? 87 00:03:52,275 --> 00:03:55,235 no, of course not. you grew up surrounded by boys.what are you talking about? 88 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:58,238 hi there. you seem to have very nimble fingers. 89 00:03:58,238 --> 00:04:01,458 are you now or have you ever been a knitter?no. agent lisbon. 90 00:04:01,458 --> 00:04:04,026 yes, dr. montague. it's a pleasure to meet you. 91 00:04:04,026 --> 00:04:07,334 and you must be patrick jane.i must be. you were saying we needed to talk. 92 00:04:07,334 --> 00:04:09,597 yes, dr. montague is consulting on the case. 93 00:04:09,597 --> 00:04:11,076 oh? 94 00:04:11,076 --> 00:04:13,078 yes, she's a decision science consultant. 95 00:04:13,078 --> 00:04:15,951 she works with the fbi and state agencies. 96 00:04:15,951 --> 00:04:18,301 her work helped bring in the quarry killer. 97 00:04:18,301 --> 00:04:20,303 i'm developing a predictive computer model. 98 00:04:20,303 --> 00:04:23,524 it identifies the patterns in crimes and assesses whether 99 00:04:23,524 --> 00:04:26,483 or not they were committed by the same perpetrator. 100 00:04:26,483 --> 00:04:28,311 wow. cool. 101 00:04:28,311 --> 00:04:30,313 the systems flagged your two murders 102 00:04:30,313 --> 00:04:33,273 as the re-emergence of a killer known as "the caveman." 103 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:35,187 i remember him. 104 00:04:35,187 --> 00:04:37,451 he bludgeoned his victims with a wooden club. 105 00:04:37,451 --> 00:04:39,148 that was ten years ago. 106 00:04:39,148 --> 00:04:41,498 indeed, but the similarities between his victims 107 00:04:41,498 --> 00:04:45,285 and the victims in this case are statistically identical.how so? 108 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:47,635 the caveman always picks two victims, one week apart. 109 00:04:47,635 --> 00:04:49,506 same physical attributes-- 110 00:04:49,506 --> 00:04:52,988 brunettes, 120 to 140 pounds. in every other respect, 111 00:04:52,988 --> 00:04:54,555 the choice seems entirely random-- 112 00:04:54,555 --> 00:04:57,384 no geographic or demographic pattern. 113 00:04:57,384 --> 00:04:59,647 victims are bludgeoned on the side of the head 114 00:04:59,647 --> 00:05:02,258 with a wooden object, no evidence of sexual assault, 115 00:05:02,258 --> 00:05:04,652 bodies are left in waste sites and scrap yards, 116 00:05:04,652 --> 00:05:06,610 and the victims are unknown to each other. 117 00:05:06,610 --> 00:05:08,438 this is classic caveman. 118 00:05:08,438 --> 00:05:11,049 hmm. well, at least you're wrong with conviction. 119 00:05:11,049 --> 00:05:14,401 these two women knew each other.how do you know that? 120 00:05:14,401 --> 00:05:16,620 okay, so this one... 121 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:19,275 yes, now if you look at the detail 122 00:05:19,275 --> 00:05:23,584 in this rose, and then again at the detail in this scarf, 123 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:25,586 they were both done by the same hand. 124 00:05:25,586 --> 00:05:26,761 hmm. intriguing handicraft theory. 125 00:05:26,761 --> 00:05:28,197 yeah. 126 00:05:28,197 --> 00:05:30,547 but even if we were able to establish a link 127 00:05:30,547 --> 00:05:32,201 between the victims, 128 00:05:32,201 --> 00:05:34,638 it doesn't exclude the caveman from being the killer. 129 00:05:34,638 --> 00:05:36,771 it merely expands the modeling paradigm. 130 00:05:36,771 --> 00:05:38,860 merely expands the modeling paradigm. 131 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:42,080 wasn't the caveman known for sending poetry, animal organs, 132 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,082 even crude drawings to the police? 133 00:05:44,082 --> 00:05:46,084 we haven't received anything like that. 134 00:05:46,084 --> 00:05:48,043 we will.hi, boss. 135 00:05:48,043 --> 00:05:50,393 found out that valerie bestin was a financial director 136 00:05:50,393 --> 00:05:52,961 at an online company called agile turtle. 137 00:05:52,961 --> 00:05:54,745 dr. montague, this is agent wayne rigsby. 138 00:05:54,745 --> 00:05:56,573 rigsby, dr. montague's consulting on the case, 139 00:05:56,573 --> 00:05:59,359 and you'll be her liaison.it's a pleasure to meet you. 140 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:03,450 why don't you show her around?all right, i can keep you the 50-cent tour. 141 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:05,452 start in the major crimes section. 142 00:06:05,452 --> 00:06:07,454 really? a decision science consultant? 143 00:06:07,454 --> 00:06:09,456 don't start. this goes way above us. 144 00:06:09,456 --> 00:06:12,415 we're good to the feds, the feds will be good to us. 145 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:14,461 when in doubt, don't act out. 146 00:06:14,461 --> 00:06:17,202 you just made a rhyme. when am i ever in doubt? 147 00:06:17,202 --> 00:06:19,379 seriously, you start trouble, and i will...you'll burst my bubble? 148 00:06:26,603 --> 00:06:29,737 she was such a good person, you know? 149 00:06:29,737 --> 00:06:32,304 she took all these underprivileged-like kids 150 00:06:32,304 --> 00:06:34,306 hiking at half dome earlier this year. 151 00:06:34,306 --> 00:06:36,700 mr. beechum, did valerie have any friends or co-workers 152 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:39,311 that were young latinas?mm, no. 153 00:06:39,311 --> 00:06:42,227 there's not really that many women that work here. 154 00:06:42,227 --> 00:06:44,186 you had a crush on her, didn't you? 155 00:06:44,186 --> 00:06:45,840 why do you say that? 156 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,232 attractive young woman, 157 00:06:47,232 --> 00:06:50,497 single computer programmer, birds, bees. 158 00:06:50,497 --> 00:06:52,324 i could go on. 159 00:06:52,324 --> 00:06:54,936 i'm more of an entrepreneur than a programmer these days, 160 00:06:54,936 --> 00:06:57,678 but that isn't an untrue statement. 161 00:06:57,678 --> 00:07:00,158 she was a lovely lady. 162 00:07:00,158 --> 00:07:03,031 hmm. but when you made your move, she shot you down. 163 00:07:03,031 --> 00:07:05,555 no. well... 164 00:07:05,555 --> 00:07:08,210 yeah, i wouldn't really call it a move. 165 00:07:08,210 --> 00:07:10,255 but there were no hard feelings. 166 00:07:10,255 --> 00:07:13,302 i mean, if i killed every woman that shot me down, 167 00:07:13,302 --> 00:07:16,261 i would be a monster. you know, well... 168 00:07:16,261 --> 00:07:18,350 i mean, i'm not... you know what i mean. 169 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:20,135 mnh-mnh. 170 00:07:20,135 --> 00:07:23,181 when was the last time you saw valerie? 171 00:07:23,181 --> 00:07:25,009 uh, yesterday at work. 172 00:07:25,009 --> 00:07:27,011 okay, i think we're done here. 173 00:07:27,011 --> 00:07:28,796 you do?yes. 174 00:07:28,796 --> 00:07:30,798 oh, actually, no. i have one more question. 175 00:07:30,798 --> 00:07:33,409 where's the nearest homeless shelter? 176 00:07:33,409 --> 00:07:36,281 valerie was deeply guilt-ridden over hitting the homeless guy. 177 00:07:36,281 --> 00:07:39,328 she started collecting soap, shampoo, and crayons. 178 00:07:39,328 --> 00:07:41,373 she was taking kids hiking. 179 00:07:41,373 --> 00:07:43,767 she probably volunteered her time--in a homeless shelter? 180 00:07:43,767 --> 00:07:45,943 sometimes you act like i don't know jack. 181 00:07:45,943 --> 00:07:48,293 more rhyming. now that's even rapping. 182 00:07:48,293 --> 00:07:50,774 ♪ sometimes you act like i don't know jack ♪ 183 00:07:50,774 --> 00:07:52,776 i'm-a drop a beat back there. 184 00:07:52,776 --> 00:07:55,257 yeah.yee-yee. 185 00:07:55,257 --> 00:07:56,911 valerie bestin? 186 00:07:56,911 --> 00:07:59,261 of course. she volunteered here. 187 00:07:59,261 --> 00:08:01,219 that's what i told the other people. 188 00:08:01,219 --> 00:08:03,352 what other people? 189 00:08:03,352 --> 00:08:05,485 um, those people. 190 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:08,836 hi. 191 00:08:08,836 --> 00:08:10,881 how'd you know to come here? 192 00:08:10,881 --> 00:08:13,144 women are 17% more likely than men to self-direct 193 00:08:13,144 --> 00:08:15,799 into redemptive recourse after committing crimes. 194 00:08:15,799 --> 00:08:18,367 given valerie bestin's lack of relapse after d.u.i. 195 00:08:18,367 --> 00:08:20,369 with injury incident, it only made sense 196 00:08:20,369 --> 00:08:21,979 that she would follow the pattern, 197 00:08:21,979 --> 00:08:25,417 so i called treatment facilities and shelters 198 00:08:25,417 --> 00:08:27,594 in surrounding areas until i found the right place.so you... guessed. 199 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:30,553 ah, it's more of a scientific hypothesis, really. 200 00:08:30,553 --> 00:08:32,555 just keep us in the loop.noted. 201 00:08:32,555 --> 00:08:35,515 need to head back and code these interviews. if you'll excuse us. 202 00:08:38,822 --> 00:08:41,172 you have to admit, she really knows her stuff. 203 00:08:41,172 --> 00:08:43,435 i'm admitting nothing. 204 00:08:43,435 --> 00:08:45,873 she's huffing and puffing. 205 00:08:45,873 --> 00:08:48,223 wait. that rhymes. 206 00:08:48,223 --> 00:08:51,879 like i told dr. montague, i didn't know valerie very well. 207 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:53,968 but she would often bring donations with her. 208 00:08:53,968 --> 00:08:55,491 desperately needed. 209 00:08:55,491 --> 00:08:57,406 ah, we're stretched pretty thin around here, 210 00:08:57,406 --> 00:08:59,495 so our focus is on our guests. 211 00:08:59,495 --> 00:09:02,629 uh, but paula had more contact with her than i did. 212 00:09:02,629 --> 00:09:04,631 valerie was a saint. 213 00:09:04,631 --> 00:09:06,850 she never talked down to nobody. 214 00:09:06,850 --> 00:09:09,287 always makin' sure we was eatin' better, 215 00:09:09,287 --> 00:09:10,550 drinkin' less. 216 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:13,074 oh, when marty died, 217 00:09:13,074 --> 00:09:16,556 she was, like... cryin'. 218 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:18,079 she really cared. 219 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:19,776 marty? 220 00:09:19,776 --> 00:09:24,172 a former guest. he passed away here a couple weeks ago. 221 00:09:24,172 --> 00:09:26,304 a bad case of flu swept through here. 222 00:09:26,304 --> 00:09:29,307 lot of people got sick, and poor marty's system just-- 223 00:09:29,307 --> 00:09:32,049 just couldn't handle it, you know? 224 00:09:35,313 --> 00:09:37,054 any other questions, jane? 225 00:09:37,054 --> 00:09:40,144 uh, yes, um, i do have one more question... 226 00:09:40,144 --> 00:09:41,755 yeah.in fact. 227 00:09:41,755 --> 00:09:45,062 do either of you recall whether valerie was a-a knitter? 228 00:09:47,021 --> 00:09:49,719 knitting.thank you for your time. 229 00:09:49,719 --> 00:09:51,678 all right. thank you. 230 00:09:55,377 --> 00:09:57,335 just got back the forensics report. 231 00:09:57,335 --> 00:09:59,729 both victims were bludgeoned with the same object. 232 00:09:59,729 --> 00:10:03,254 identical wood fibers were found in both their wounds. 233 00:10:03,254 --> 00:10:07,084 sounds like the caveman.i don't think he has the patent on killing with a 2x4. 234 00:10:07,084 --> 00:10:10,087 you know, we should think about a press response to this. 235 00:10:10,087 --> 00:10:12,612 being ahead of media speculation makes us look less reactive. 236 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:16,050 well, hang on. we're not even sure it's the caveman. 237 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:19,140 we don't need to speak to the press just yet.i disagree. 238 00:10:25,146 --> 00:10:29,367 but i hear you... and i understand your concerns. 239 00:10:29,367 --> 00:10:31,369 yes, you hear me, most certainly. 240 00:10:31,369 --> 00:10:34,721 but i doubt very much you understand my concerns. 241 00:10:34,721 --> 00:10:37,071 if you're so sure that it's not the caveman, 242 00:10:37,071 --> 00:10:39,116 why are you reading up on his file? 243 00:10:39,116 --> 00:10:42,685 i like to read. i have insomnia. i don't like warm milk. 244 00:10:42,685 --> 00:10:44,687 i'm lactose-intolerant. i could go on. 245 00:10:44,687 --> 00:10:46,689 did you know that habitual mockery 246 00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:48,996 is a strong indicator of depression? 247 00:10:48,996 --> 00:10:53,391 no. but thank you for enlightening me. 248 00:10:55,567 --> 00:10:58,266 um, that was inappropriate. 249 00:10:58,266 --> 00:11:00,442 i apologize. 250 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:10,582 one of these vans 251 00:11:10,582 --> 00:11:13,194 has to have been at the salvage area. 252 00:11:13,194 --> 00:11:14,543 how many left? 253 00:11:14,543 --> 00:11:16,197 nine. 254 00:11:16,197 --> 00:11:19,330 oh, we already hit eight. god, my feet hurt. 255 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:22,029 your feet hurt? 256 00:11:22,029 --> 00:11:24,379 is there some way we can work this out? 257 00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:28,470 what?i have to spell it out? okay, look, i lied. 258 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:30,777 i lied to the p.s.u. to protect my dad, 259 00:11:30,777 --> 00:11:33,910 and you had to lie to cover me, and i owe you big-time. 260 00:11:33,910 --> 00:11:36,043 look, i get that you're mad at me, and i'm sorry. 261 00:11:36,043 --> 00:11:39,437 but please, can we move past this? 262 00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:42,353 okay.okay? what, like--like, we'reokay, okay? 263 00:11:45,269 --> 00:11:47,445 police! 264 00:11:47,445 --> 00:11:49,447 hey, what the hell, man? 265 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:52,450 cbi. we need to ask you a couple questions. 266 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:54,714 you the owner of this van?yeah. 267 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:58,152 you get your transmission fixed this morning?yeah. why? 268 00:11:58,152 --> 00:12:00,458 ma'am, where'd you get that bracelet? 269 00:12:00,458 --> 00:12:03,548 at the none-of-your-damn- business store. 270 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:08,902 so did your friend yasmeen in the back of the van 271 00:12:08,902 --> 00:12:11,295 know where this bracelet came from? 272 00:12:11,295 --> 00:12:14,385 oh, that wasn't a friend. that was just a little dinner.it's weird that 273 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:17,388 your dinner's name was yasmeen, but this bracelet you gave her 274 00:12:17,388 --> 00:12:20,304 has the initials "f.t." engraved on it.imagine that. 275 00:12:20,304 --> 00:12:22,742 it's too bad you forgot the matching earrings 276 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:25,179 off the woman you killed.i didn't kill anybody. 277 00:12:25,179 --> 00:12:29,226 then how'd you end up with a dead woman's bracelet? 278 00:12:29,226 --> 00:12:32,664 you know, decomposing bodies can still leave a lot of evidence? 279 00:12:32,664 --> 00:12:35,667 only a matter of time before they match up the d.n.a. 280 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,800 left on this bracelet to her body. 281 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,761 look... sometimes i haul junk to that yard. 282 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,111 i was there looking around for whatever. 283 00:12:44,111 --> 00:12:47,549 there she was, already dead. 284 00:12:47,549 --> 00:12:50,204 the bracelet wasn't doing her any good. 285 00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:53,816 too much of a wuss to be a killer. 286 00:12:53,816 --> 00:12:57,559 lacking in grandiosity, only one divorce, 287 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,214 an undercurrent of rage would normally express itself 288 00:13:00,214 --> 00:13:02,216 at least in a driving record. 289 00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:04,871 i'm not seeing a propensity for violence here. 290 00:13:04,871 --> 00:13:08,396 so you agree with me?not our killer. 291 00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:10,180 hmm. 292 00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:12,052 thank you. 293 00:13:12,052 --> 00:13:15,316 the caveman was never known to steal jewelry off his victims, 294 00:13:15,316 --> 00:13:17,318 so that clears up that anomaly. 295 00:13:17,318 --> 00:13:18,972 life's just one 296 00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:21,322 giant mathematical equation for you, isn't it? 297 00:13:21,322 --> 00:13:23,324 i would like that. i confess. 298 00:13:23,324 --> 00:13:24,934 this isn't the caveman. 299 00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:26,327 so you say. 300 00:13:26,327 --> 00:13:29,112 i got $1 that says the same thing. 301 00:13:29,112 --> 00:13:32,333 i have no objection to gambling. you're on. 302 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:33,987 hmm. 303 00:13:35,684 --> 00:13:37,077 oh, someone's popular. 304 00:13:37,077 --> 00:13:39,296 hardly. 305 00:13:39,296 --> 00:13:40,907 what is it? 306 00:13:42,473 --> 00:13:44,824 ohh.looks like a kidney. 307 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:48,044 there's a poem on the other side of that paper, i suspect? 308 00:13:48,044 --> 00:13:50,133 you've seen this before? 309 00:13:50,133 --> 00:13:52,222 "the ladies are dead. i crushed their heads. 310 00:13:52,222 --> 00:13:54,877 and after the lash, they go into the trash." 311 00:13:54,877 --> 00:13:56,574 it's from the caveman. 312 00:13:56,574 --> 00:13:58,968 poetry week. you could've done better than that. 313 00:13:58,968 --> 00:14:01,318 i believe we had a wager. 314 00:14:01,318 --> 00:14:02,972 ah. yeah. 315 00:14:04,278 --> 00:14:05,801 thank you. 316 00:14:11,459 --> 00:14:13,461 from an individual calling himself "the caveman," 317 00:14:13,461 --> 00:14:15,419 who claims responsibility for the murder 318 00:14:15,419 --> 00:14:17,378 of two local area women... 319 00:14:17,378 --> 00:14:18,553 hey. 320 00:14:18,553 --> 00:14:20,555 ms. montague in her element. 321 00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:22,557 it's not often you see a profiler 322 00:14:22,557 --> 00:14:24,515 basking in the spotlight. 323 00:14:24,515 --> 00:14:27,127 well, montague says that a killer like the caveman 324 00:14:27,127 --> 00:14:29,172 craves acknowledgment for his crimes. 325 00:14:29,172 --> 00:14:31,174 giving him some attention could keep him 326 00:14:31,174 --> 00:14:32,828 from taking another victim early. 327 00:14:32,828 --> 00:14:34,786 you like montague, don't you? 328 00:14:34,786 --> 00:14:37,093 no. i mean, i... don't dislikeher. 329 00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:38,486 what's to dislike? 330 00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:40,662 right. still working on, uh, 331 00:14:40,662 --> 00:14:42,664 where the caveman sent the package from, 332 00:14:42,664 --> 00:14:44,753 but we got an i.d. on the other victim. 333 00:14:44,753 --> 00:14:46,407 excellent.fernanda talan. 334 00:14:46,407 --> 00:14:48,409 engraved initials on the back of her stolen bracelet 335 00:14:48,409 --> 00:14:50,411 helped make a positive match. 336 00:14:50,411 --> 00:14:52,717 her cousins reported her missing about a week ago. 337 00:14:52,717 --> 00:14:55,285 she worked for them at a bottling plant. 338 00:14:58,549 --> 00:15:00,551 ah. still wearing that brooch, i see, 339 00:15:00,551 --> 00:15:02,945 but where's the power suit? 340 00:15:02,945 --> 00:15:04,947 well, wearing a palette of neutral tones 341 00:15:04,947 --> 00:15:06,993 is less threatening when interviewing people. 342 00:15:06,993 --> 00:15:09,299 hi.hey, boss. 343 00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:11,301 i just got valerie bestin's phone records. 344 00:15:11,301 --> 00:15:13,303 lately she's been getting a lot of calls 345 00:15:13,303 --> 00:15:15,610 from donovan treadlow, the homeless shelter director. 346 00:15:15,610 --> 00:15:18,047 he said he barely knew her. 347 00:15:18,047 --> 00:15:19,701 well, he lied. 348 00:15:19,701 --> 00:15:22,312 take cho. get the story. 349 00:15:22,312 --> 00:15:24,619 fernanda was our cousin from my mother's family. 350 00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:26,447 she came to us 351 00:15:26,447 --> 00:15:28,579 to get away from the violence in oakland. 352 00:15:28,579 --> 00:15:32,409 this wasn't supposed to happen to her. 353 00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:36,022 her brother was killed just last year, and now this? 354 00:15:36,022 --> 00:15:39,721 she was going to make it. 355 00:15:39,721 --> 00:15:41,505 tranquila,nilda. 356 00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:43,899 when was the last time you saw fernanda? 357 00:15:43,899 --> 00:15:46,815 about a week ago. she took the bus after work 358 00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:49,470 and just vanished. we were worried immediately when 359 00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:53,691 she didn't show up the next day because she never missed work.where did she work? 360 00:15:53,691 --> 00:15:55,519 on the line.in there? 361 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:58,435 have you see valerie bestin around your neighborhood? 362 00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:00,176 no. 363 00:16:00,176 --> 00:16:03,179 we only heard about her through the news and you all. 364 00:16:03,179 --> 00:16:06,052 i like the packaging. what flavor is that? 365 00:16:06,052 --> 00:16:09,359 um... probably our orange cream sodas, 366 00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:10,621 right, esther? 367 00:16:10,621 --> 00:16:13,537 yes. we make natural sodas. 368 00:16:13,537 --> 00:16:15,539 no corn syrup, no artificial flavors. 369 00:16:15,539 --> 00:16:18,412 we employ locals, pay them right. 370 00:16:18,412 --> 00:16:21,241 people used to shake their heads when we first started, 371 00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:24,026 but now they're getting it. 372 00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:26,637 fernanda had made a huge change here. 373 00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:29,031 she wanted to be a nurse and... 374 00:16:29,031 --> 00:16:32,600 it's just all so sad. 375 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,560 is this a boy or girl? i can't really see. it's a boy. 376 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,519 a boy lizard. what's his name? 377 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:39,520 chuy. 378 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,043 hey, chuy. 379 00:16:41,043 --> 00:16:42,914 ms. montague, you're awfully quiet. 380 00:16:42,914 --> 00:16:45,526 i'm sure you have some questions. 381 00:16:45,526 --> 00:16:47,876 ms. montague here-- she's, uh, super, super clever. 382 00:16:47,876 --> 00:16:51,010 she's a scientist.thank you, mr. jane. 383 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,489 oh, pleasure. 384 00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:54,752 did fernanda ever abuse alcohol? 385 00:16:54,752 --> 00:16:56,319 no. 386 00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:58,539 what about illegal or controlled substances? 387 00:16:58,539 --> 00:17:00,889 what are you trying to say, 388 00:17:00,889 --> 00:17:02,978 that fernanda got mixed up in drugs? 389 00:17:02,978 --> 00:17:06,155 i'm looking into traits and habits which might give 390 00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:09,158 some insight into why she was chosen by the caveman. 391 00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:11,508 finding out why fernanda's to blame for getting murdered? 392 00:17:11,508 --> 00:17:14,424 what kind of quack are you? 393 00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:17,166 i'm sure that's not what dr. montague meant. 394 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:19,386 uh, it appears that you've got this covered, 395 00:17:19,386 --> 00:17:22,345 so i'm just going to, uh, go inside and take a look. 396 00:17:22,345 --> 00:17:24,391 ma'am, i did not mean to offend. 397 00:17:24,391 --> 00:17:26,610 if you let me explain my procedure to you... 398 00:17:35,793 --> 00:17:38,448 fernanda was a sweetheart, hard worker, 399 00:17:38,448 --> 00:17:41,277 had gotten pretty sick a couple of weeks back, 400 00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:44,324 but there she was, on the job. 401 00:17:44,324 --> 00:17:45,499 sick how? 402 00:17:45,499 --> 00:17:46,848 stomach bug, something. 403 00:17:46,848 --> 00:17:49,068 dedicated. 404 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:50,765 absolutely. 405 00:17:50,765 --> 00:17:54,073 shy at first, but then she really got into it, 406 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:56,031 asking how we did things, you know, 407 00:17:56,031 --> 00:17:58,642 just learning the process. 408 00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:01,341 can i, um, try one of these sodas? 409 00:18:01,341 --> 00:18:03,734 absolutely. 410 00:18:05,606 --> 00:18:08,043 cheers. 411 00:18:08,043 --> 00:18:09,436 mmm! 412 00:18:09,436 --> 00:18:11,568 yeah, that's good. 413 00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:14,658 what's, uh, what's happening tomorrow night? 414 00:18:14,658 --> 00:18:16,660 they're having a candlelight vigil 415 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:18,271 for fernanda. 416 00:18:18,271 --> 00:18:20,621 mm. 417 00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:23,276 is the helios street line difficult to get to? 418 00:18:23,276 --> 00:18:25,408 no. bus stop is right out front. 419 00:18:31,022 --> 00:18:32,633 hey! 420 00:18:32,633 --> 00:18:35,244 hey, uh, lisbon's just finishing up in there. 421 00:18:35,244 --> 00:18:36,637 won't be a moment. 422 00:18:36,637 --> 00:18:38,508 what'd you find out? 423 00:18:38,508 --> 00:18:41,468 various things. all data is useful data. 424 00:18:41,468 --> 00:18:42,817 so nothing then? 425 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,514 and you? 426 00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:48,475 well, i found out how our two victims were connected. 427 00:18:48,475 --> 00:18:49,606 how? 428 00:18:49,606 --> 00:18:51,608 get on the bus. i'll show you. 429 00:18:51,608 --> 00:18:53,610 wait. but my car is-- 430 00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:56,222 nah, just get on the bus. come on. 431 00:19:00,922 --> 00:19:03,185 you had a late night conversation 432 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:05,579 with valerie bestin the day before she died. 433 00:19:05,579 --> 00:19:08,538 you say you hardly knew her, and there you are 434 00:19:08,538 --> 00:19:11,454 calling her at midnight. why'd you lie? 435 00:19:11,454 --> 00:19:14,109 how it looks is bad, 436 00:19:14,109 --> 00:19:16,067 but it was shelter business. 437 00:19:16,067 --> 00:19:17,852 your wife can confirm that. 438 00:19:17,852 --> 00:19:19,462 that's not necessary. 439 00:19:19,462 --> 00:19:22,161 then tell us about those calls. 440 00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,511 valerie was always thinking she saw me 441 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:27,470 being too friendly with our female guests. 442 00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:29,429 what didshe see? 443 00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:31,692 me comforting them. 444 00:19:31,692 --> 00:19:34,347 never discount the power of healing touch. 445 00:19:34,347 --> 00:19:37,698 so how often are you healing the homeless women around here? 446 00:19:37,698 --> 00:19:41,484 don't make it sound so sordid.if there were nothing wrong, 447 00:19:41,484 --> 00:19:44,531 your wife would be standing here.look... valerie kept yammering 448 00:19:44,531 --> 00:19:47,490 about how she was gonna tell my wife if i didn't. 449 00:19:47,490 --> 00:19:49,492 so i was trying to persuade her 450 00:19:49,492 --> 00:19:51,494 to let me handle it in my own way. 451 00:19:51,494 --> 00:19:53,496 we've looked into you, mr. treadlow. 452 00:19:53,496 --> 00:19:56,195 you and your wife started running this shelter 453 00:19:56,195 --> 00:19:57,587 nine months ago? 454 00:19:57,587 --> 00:20:00,286 yes, when we moved to the area. 455 00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:03,289 but this isn't the first time you lived around here. 456 00:20:03,289 --> 00:20:07,206 you worked construction here. ten years ago, right?i did. 457 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:10,470 what are you getting at?well, you left town in the middle of a housing boom, 458 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:13,081 just after a serial killer named "the caveman" 459 00:20:13,081 --> 00:20:15,997 stopped murdering the local women.and now you're back, and here's the caveman again. 460 00:20:15,997 --> 00:20:17,868 crazy, right? 461 00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:19,348 come on. 462 00:20:19,348 --> 00:20:21,655 you need to come with us. 463 00:20:21,655 --> 00:20:23,613 please. 464 00:20:33,884 --> 00:20:38,324 now that, uh... brooch that you wear all the time-- 465 00:20:38,324 --> 00:20:41,892 does it carry any special meaning or significance? 466 00:20:41,892 --> 00:20:43,198 no.no? 467 00:20:43,198 --> 00:20:45,331 i only own one piece of jewelry. 468 00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:47,289 saves time and mental energy. 469 00:20:47,289 --> 00:20:50,379 that's very efficient. 470 00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:52,642 lucky it looks very good on you. 471 00:20:52,642 --> 00:20:54,601 thank you. 472 00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:03,784 that's agile turtle. 473 00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:06,395 so the office where valerie bestin worked 474 00:21:06,395 --> 00:21:08,745 is on the same bus route as the factory 475 00:21:08,745 --> 00:21:10,834 where fernanda talan worked. 476 00:21:10,834 --> 00:21:13,489 the homeless shelter's on the same line, too. 477 00:21:13,489 --> 00:21:17,319 all right, that's--that's a very suggestive link, but-- 478 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,713 lisbon? yes, i ditched you. uh, i must confess. 479 00:21:19,713 --> 00:21:23,499 but look at the bright side. i left you with a car this time. 480 00:21:23,499 --> 00:21:26,067 there's no need to be so grumpy. it's okay. 481 00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:27,503 i call bearing news. 482 00:21:27,503 --> 00:21:30,593 our victims met on the helios line. 483 00:21:30,593 --> 00:21:32,508 it's a bus route. 484 00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:34,162 a bus. 485 00:21:34,162 --> 00:21:36,556 public transportation. yes. 486 00:21:36,556 --> 00:21:39,820 and i would bet that the killer met the victims 487 00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:42,431 on this same bus. 488 00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:44,477 mm-hmm. 489 00:21:44,477 --> 00:21:47,436 well... it's always a pleasure. 490 00:21:47,436 --> 00:21:49,482 okay. bye-bye. 491 00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:51,005 pure surmise. 492 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:52,615 yes. 493 00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:55,531 pure. 494 00:21:55,531 --> 00:21:59,535 anything on the jane bus angle?i found out valerie bestin barely used her car 495 00:21:59,535 --> 00:22:01,885 even though she got her license back a year ago. 496 00:22:01,885 --> 00:22:04,540 she mainly took the bus, just like fernanda. 497 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,326 cho, i thought you were with treadlow.we're letting him think a while. 498 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,502 i'm working with the d.a.'s office 499 00:22:09,502 --> 00:22:13,027 to get all the personnel files released by the bus company.van pelt? 500 00:22:13,027 --> 00:22:15,421 i'm running filters on all the riders with bus passes 501 00:22:15,421 --> 00:22:18,032 to see if anything flags. nothing as of yet. 502 00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:21,252 okay, and when you're done with that, find my old couch. 503 00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:51,457 i don't recall there being a strong correlation 504 00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,460 between the victims and the use of public transportation. 505 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:57,376 the caveman's adapting. i'll need to update my model. 506 00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:59,378 ms. montague, just--doctor. dr.montague. 507 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:01,336 dr. ms. montague.just doctor. 508 00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:02,511 doctor?yes. 509 00:23:02,511 --> 00:23:04,078 montague.mm-hmm. 510 00:23:04,078 --> 00:23:06,080 turn the super computer off. 511 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,082 sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride... 512 00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:10,084 and the company, if possible. 513 00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:12,086 mr.jane.yes. got it in one. 514 00:23:12,086 --> 00:23:14,088 yes. on a notion...mm-hmm. 515 00:23:14,088 --> 00:23:17,265 you have us sitting on a bus because our victims 516 00:23:17,265 --> 00:23:19,833 mighthave been on the bus at the same time? 517 00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:21,791 this is... messy. 518 00:23:21,791 --> 00:23:25,795 can i ask you a question as professionals? 519 00:23:25,795 --> 00:23:28,450 two professionals-- peers, if you will. 520 00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:30,800 why can't a notion, a thought, or an idea 521 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,802 just hang out there for a moment? 522 00:23:32,802 --> 00:23:35,065 just hang. 523 00:23:35,065 --> 00:23:37,067 because life is order and sequence. 524 00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:38,460 death is disorder, entropy. 525 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,419 mm. 526 00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,464 did you know that california 527 00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:45,511 leads the number of serial killers in the nation? 528 00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:48,514 job security, at least. excuse me. 529 00:23:48,514 --> 00:23:50,907 pardon me, ma'am. uh, i couldn't help but notice 530 00:23:50,907 --> 00:23:53,562 the beautiful detail work in this scarf. 531 00:23:53,562 --> 00:23:56,478 did you knit this yourself?yes, i did. 532 00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:58,524 that's very nice. you know, you could sell these. 533 00:23:58,524 --> 00:24:01,135 do you--do you--have you thought of selling these? 534 00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:02,963 yeah. you--you want to look? 535 00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:05,879 if you don't mind. they're very nice. 536 00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:08,795 she's got some great stuff here. beautiful. 537 00:24:08,795 --> 00:24:11,450 oh, this is beautiful. can i just try this 538 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:14,017 on my... lady friend? 539 00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,846 look at this. look at that. it's a very similar style... 540 00:24:16,846 --> 00:24:18,021 stop. 541 00:24:18,021 --> 00:24:20,546 to the one that fernanda was wearing, 542 00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:23,592 and it looks just terrific with her ensemble, no? yes. 543 00:24:23,592 --> 00:24:28,249 excuse me, ma'am. hello. we're investigating the murder-- 544 00:24:28,249 --> 00:24:30,425 i'm so sorry. no understand. 545 00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:32,906 if i could just ask you--no understand. 546 00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:35,517 but if you could just wait a second, i... 547 00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:36,910 excellent people skills. 548 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:39,434 that's sarcasm. 549 00:24:39,434 --> 00:24:41,480 uh-huh. 550 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,395 we can work on that. 551 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:48,225 hey. 552 00:24:48,225 --> 00:24:50,619 hey. i was going through the personnel files 553 00:24:50,619 --> 00:24:53,840 for the bus drivers, and something flagged. 554 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,451 a bus driver-- his name is ralph mercer. 555 00:24:56,451 --> 00:24:58,453 he's only been with the bus company 556 00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:00,629 for the last six months.so? 557 00:25:00,629 --> 00:25:02,588 according to his social security number, 558 00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:04,894 he's been dead 15 years. 559 00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:08,245 so i did a little more digging, and fingerprint records say 560 00:25:08,245 --> 00:25:10,378 mercer is actually arthur coffey. 561 00:25:10,378 --> 00:25:13,686 not a nice guy--long sheet, including aggravated rape 562 00:25:13,686 --> 00:25:15,775 and assault with a deadly weapon. 563 00:25:15,775 --> 00:25:19,039 he drives the same route our victims rode?afternoon and evening shifts. 564 00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:22,085 great. where is he now?got his route schedule from his boss. 565 00:25:22,085 --> 00:25:23,739 he's on the road now. 566 00:25:27,221 --> 00:25:29,266 hello, everybody. i'm patrick. 567 00:25:29,266 --> 00:25:31,268 uh, i'm sure you've all heard 568 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:34,750 about the two local women found murdered. yes? 569 00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:36,404 yes. 570 00:25:36,404 --> 00:25:38,406 fernanda talan and valerie bestin-- 571 00:25:38,406 --> 00:25:40,408 they rode this bus every day. 572 00:25:40,408 --> 00:25:43,672 yes, they did, and we-- when i say "we," 573 00:25:43,672 --> 00:25:47,110 i include my charming associate, 574 00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:48,590 dr. montague. 575 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:51,375 we wanna know what you know about them... 576 00:25:51,375 --> 00:25:53,290 and any other shady people 577 00:25:53,290 --> 00:25:56,467 that you may have noticed on the bus. 578 00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:58,469 any information may be important. 579 00:25:58,469 --> 00:26:03,953 any littlepiece of information may... 580 00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:06,739 be important. 581 00:26:08,741 --> 00:26:11,178 anything at all? 582 00:26:11,178 --> 00:26:14,573 any detail? 583 00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:16,096 okay. thank you. 584 00:26:22,972 --> 00:26:25,279 excellent people skills. 585 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,152 ah, sarcasm. that's very good. you're learning. 586 00:26:29,152 --> 00:26:32,068 but, uh, i, in fact, got an excellent response. 587 00:26:32,068 --> 00:26:34,418 i'm told that the driver is a little shady. 588 00:26:34,418 --> 00:26:36,029 really? 589 00:26:36,029 --> 00:26:37,465 yes, really. 590 00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:44,341 how did you... 591 00:26:57,398 --> 00:26:59,400 why are you guys following me? 592 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,445 uh, we'd like to ask you some questions. 593 00:27:01,445 --> 00:27:03,360 are you cops, or... 594 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,406 no, we're consultants with law enforcement. 595 00:27:05,406 --> 00:27:08,670 uh-huh.actually, no, she's with law enforcement. 596 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,716 i'm just an innocent bystander. 597 00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,457 she lured me into this whole mess.he's getting away. 598 00:27:13,457 --> 00:27:15,503 do, uh, do something.that's good. like what? what am i gonna do? 599 00:27:16,765 --> 00:27:18,593 drop the weapon! 600 00:27:18,593 --> 00:27:20,551 facedown to the ground now! 601 00:27:22,336 --> 00:27:24,294 that's nice timing. 602 00:27:24,294 --> 00:27:28,342 darn! with him in the back, there won't be room for you two. 603 00:27:28,342 --> 00:27:31,345 well, how are we gonna get back?take the bus. 604 00:27:34,957 --> 00:27:37,960 hewas our driver. 605 00:27:42,312 --> 00:27:44,358 carjacking, extortion, rape. 606 00:27:44,358 --> 00:27:46,665 now that we've found 30 bindles on you, 607 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:50,277 we can add dealing as well.i want to straighten out, okay? 608 00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:52,279 i got a disease... called addiction. 609 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,804 that's all it is-- the dealing. 610 00:27:55,804 --> 00:27:57,763 i'm just trying to, you know, 611 00:27:57,763 --> 00:27:59,852 maintain. 612 00:27:59,852 --> 00:28:02,985 i'm a good person that made some wrong choices. 613 00:28:02,985 --> 00:28:06,293 are you the firstborn in your family, mr. coffey? 614 00:28:06,293 --> 00:28:07,947 yeah. 615 00:28:07,947 --> 00:28:10,427 ever heard of the caveman? 616 00:28:10,427 --> 00:28:12,429 sure. from the... tv news. 617 00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:13,996 you know these women? 618 00:28:13,996 --> 00:28:16,390 yeah. 619 00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:18,348 they rode the bus. 620 00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:20,350 they were killed by the caveman. 621 00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:23,919 i mean, it was just on tv. 622 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:26,661 in fact, yeah, it was you that was on tv, 623 00:28:26,661 --> 00:28:28,532 said it was the caveman, right? 624 00:28:28,532 --> 00:28:29,838 yeah. 625 00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:32,798 how many sexual partners have you had? 626 00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:37,716 wow. you like to cut to the chase. 627 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:40,327 um... like 100, 150. 628 00:28:40,327 --> 00:28:42,416 women? men? 629 00:28:42,416 --> 00:28:45,332 hello.women. what is your point here? 630 00:28:45,332 --> 00:28:47,638 we need to know whether you killed these women 631 00:28:47,638 --> 00:28:50,337 because they found out about your side business 632 00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:52,905 or because you're the caveman. 633 00:28:52,905 --> 00:28:54,994 hey. no. you think i'm the caveman? 634 00:28:54,994 --> 00:28:57,344 no, no. you got me all wrong here. 635 00:28:57,344 --> 00:29:01,261 i deal a little blow, okay? i mean, i don't do murders. 636 00:29:04,351 --> 00:29:06,309 i think i'll take a lawyer now. 637 00:29:06,309 --> 00:29:08,703 meh. 638 00:29:08,703 --> 00:29:10,661 well, he's the only suspect we have 639 00:29:10,661 --> 00:29:12,663 with a direct link to both victims. 640 00:29:12,663 --> 00:29:16,842 yes, it's all very compelling, but i'm not convinced. 641 00:29:16,842 --> 00:29:18,757 and, yes, you should. 642 00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:20,671 should what? 643 00:29:20,671 --> 00:29:22,412 oh, you know what. 644 00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:24,371 no.oh, yes, you do. 645 00:29:24,371 --> 00:29:25,764 no, i don't. 646 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:27,374 yes, you do. 647 00:29:31,247 --> 00:29:34,120 that bus driver's an ass, but he isn't the caveman. 648 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,165 i'm thinking the same thing. 649 00:29:36,165 --> 00:29:38,559 his shifts at work don't match up with our timeline. 650 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,605 and without any hard evidence, i had to cut treadlow loose, 651 00:29:41,605 --> 00:29:45,914 so we have to start from scratch. damn it to hell!oh, language. please. 652 00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:48,525 bertram is on hightower's back. she's on mine. 653 00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:50,876 it's all, "catch the caveman, catch the caveman." 654 00:29:50,876 --> 00:29:53,052 i hate serial killers. 655 00:29:53,052 --> 00:29:56,446 caveman didn't kill fernanda and valerie. trust me. 656 00:29:56,446 --> 00:29:58,797 well, how can you be so sure? 657 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,800 because i wrote the letter from the caveman. 658 00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:12,723 what did you just say?i wrote the letter from the caveman. 659 00:30:12,723 --> 00:30:15,422 yeah, i heard you the first time.why'd you ask me to say it again? 660 00:30:15,422 --> 00:30:17,119 it was a rhetorical question! 661 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,165 i just wanted to stir things up, 662 00:30:19,165 --> 00:30:21,471 just, you know, give montague a little prod.i get it. she irks you. 663 00:30:21,471 --> 00:30:23,778 no, she doesn't irk me. i like her. 664 00:30:23,778 --> 00:30:26,737 in fact, she amuses me.yeah, and in the meantime, everybody is freaking out 665 00:30:26,737 --> 00:30:30,002 because they think there's a serial killer on the loose. 666 00:30:30,002 --> 00:30:32,569 well, there is that, but... that was her story. 667 00:30:32,569 --> 00:30:34,789 she made that up, not me. 668 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:37,531 undoing this is gonna be a nightmare. 669 00:30:37,531 --> 00:30:40,273 the press is gonna have a field day. 670 00:30:40,273 --> 00:30:43,058 i have to tell the families.isn't there a candlelight vigil somewhere this evening? 671 00:30:43,058 --> 00:30:44,930 well, i think so. 672 00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:48,542 it's all gonna work out just fine. 673 00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:50,805 i have... no doubt in my mind. 674 00:30:57,333 --> 00:30:58,595 dr. montague. 675 00:30:58,595 --> 00:31:00,206 agent rigsby. 676 00:31:02,121 --> 00:31:05,167 interesting line of questioning you had going in interrogation. 677 00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:07,517 oh, well, yes, as you know, 678 00:31:07,517 --> 00:31:09,955 sexual promiscuity and risky behavior 679 00:31:09,955 --> 00:31:12,783 are reliable indicators in psychopathy.uh, yes, you can learn a lot about a person 680 00:31:12,783 --> 00:31:14,176 from their sexual history. 681 00:31:14,176 --> 00:31:16,222 i remember there was this one time 682 00:31:16,222 --> 00:31:18,877 we had this guy in custody, and he had a... 683 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:20,530 it was a... 684 00:31:20,530 --> 00:31:24,273 it's an inappropriate story, sexual history-wise. 685 00:31:25,492 --> 00:31:28,843 this has been, uh, nice. 686 00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:31,454 what has been nice?talking with you. 687 00:31:31,454 --> 00:31:33,326 oh, well. you're welcome. 688 00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:34,675 agent rigsby. 689 00:31:34,675 --> 00:31:35,806 yes? 690 00:31:35,806 --> 00:31:36,938 your tea. 691 00:31:36,938 --> 00:31:40,159 yes. i... 692 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,161 will take that to go. 693 00:31:43,553 --> 00:31:46,774 what, uh, agent rigsby wanted to say... 694 00:31:46,774 --> 00:31:49,820 well, he--he wanted to ask you out on a date tonight. 695 00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:53,737 oh. uh... uh... 696 00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:56,871 i was... going to go to the candlelight vigil-- 697 00:31:56,871 --> 00:31:59,482 oh, i got--see, i picked that thing up. um... 698 00:32:01,832 --> 00:32:03,660 this is for you. 699 00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:05,836 rigsby picked it out. 700 00:32:05,836 --> 00:32:08,883 i didn't. i have no idea what's in that box.you didn't... 701 00:32:08,883 --> 00:32:10,537 yes, he did. 702 00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:11,973 no, i didn't. 703 00:32:11,973 --> 00:32:13,627 um... um... 704 00:32:13,627 --> 00:32:15,368 wow. 705 00:32:17,065 --> 00:32:18,849 thanks for coming out. 706 00:32:18,849 --> 00:32:21,461 um, fernanda's family was kind enough to include us 707 00:32:21,461 --> 00:32:23,245 in this vigil because 708 00:32:23,245 --> 00:32:26,205 we're all working toward the same end. 709 00:32:26,205 --> 00:32:30,165 we need to speak up. we can't let a killer like the caveman 710 00:32:30,165 --> 00:32:32,907 hold our community hostage. 711 00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:36,737 don't let fernanda and valerie die in vain. 712 00:32:36,737 --> 00:32:40,349 uh, if you have something to say, please come forward. 713 00:32:41,785 --> 00:32:43,744 good evening. 714 00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:45,659 uh, excuse me. my name is patrick jane. 715 00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:48,705 uh, i offer my condolences. 716 00:32:48,705 --> 00:32:52,405 i'm a part of the team that will bring this killer to justice. 717 00:32:52,405 --> 00:32:54,450 i do have some unfortunate news. 718 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:57,062 we've just learned that the letter we believed 719 00:32:57,062 --> 00:33:00,543 to be from the caveman is, in fact, a very clever forgery. 720 00:33:00,543 --> 00:33:03,764 so what does that mean?bottom line--we're pretty sure that the caveman 721 00:33:03,764 --> 00:33:06,332 didn't kill your loved ones. 722 00:33:06,332 --> 00:33:09,378 someone is using the caveman as a foil.you all said it was him on tv. 723 00:33:09,378 --> 00:33:12,251 the profiler lady said you were making good progress 724 00:33:12,251 --> 00:33:13,904 on the case. 725 00:33:13,904 --> 00:33:16,646 she made a mistake. i'm sorry, but it happens. 726 00:33:16,646 --> 00:33:18,648 so do you know anything? 727 00:33:18,648 --> 00:33:21,651 again, i'd like to apologize profusely for our error. 728 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:26,743 uh... it appears that this, uh, forger is, uh, 729 00:33:26,743 --> 00:33:28,876 one of unparalleled skill.aah! 730 00:33:28,876 --> 00:33:32,619 ohh!oh, my god. that's blood. 731 00:33:34,925 --> 00:33:38,538 ohh. what is that? 732 00:33:38,538 --> 00:33:40,801 the profiler lady was wearing that. 733 00:33:40,801 --> 00:33:42,194 yes, she was. 734 00:33:44,935 --> 00:33:47,721 i'm not a specialist, but that looks like a kidney. 735 00:33:47,721 --> 00:33:50,593 there's a note. 736 00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:51,942 "your profiler is dead. 737 00:33:51,942 --> 00:33:55,120 stupid copycat will join her at midnight." 738 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,513 signed from the caveman. 739 00:33:57,513 --> 00:34:02,344 oh, no. lisbon, where are you? 740 00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,303 i need your help. 741 00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:10,396 listen, thanks for tonight. i had fun. 742 00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:11,919 so did i, wayne. 743 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,921 um, i enjoyed your funny stories immensely. 744 00:34:13,921 --> 00:34:15,923 good. and i enjoyed your, uh... 745 00:34:15,923 --> 00:34:19,013 well, i learned a lot about statistical analysis. 746 00:34:19,013 --> 00:34:20,971 i hope i didn't bore you. 747 00:34:20,971 --> 00:34:22,364 no, not at all. 748 00:34:22,364 --> 00:34:25,759 um, in fact, would you like to go out again? 749 00:34:25,759 --> 00:34:27,456 i would. 750 00:34:27,456 --> 00:34:29,502 uh... i would. do... 751 00:34:29,502 --> 00:34:32,679 you are an attractive and stable character. 752 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,507 thank you. 753 00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:36,900 but i don't need to conduct an analysis 754 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,947 to see that you're still in love with someone else. 755 00:34:39,947 --> 00:34:42,471 the probability of us having a successful relationship 756 00:34:42,471 --> 00:34:44,995 is no more than 20%. 757 00:34:44,995 --> 00:34:46,432 20%? 758 00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:47,346 mm-hmm, tops. 759 00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:50,740 where is everybody? 760 00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:53,221 i thought we were working the night shift. 761 00:34:53,221 --> 00:34:55,441 oh, hi. everybody's out catching the killer. 762 00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:56,529 seriously? 763 00:34:56,529 --> 00:34:59,619 no, i'm joking.oh. 764 00:34:59,619 --> 00:35:02,709 that was sarcasm. uh, they're out catching the killer. 765 00:35:07,235 --> 00:35:09,411 nilda, will you hurry up? 766 00:35:09,411 --> 00:35:10,804 what about chuy? 767 00:35:10,804 --> 00:35:12,414 forget the lizard already! 768 00:35:12,414 --> 00:35:14,286 essential items only. 769 00:35:21,989 --> 00:35:23,947 ¿qué es eso? 770 00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:30,040 it's the caveman. 771 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,696 this is all a big mistake. we never meant to copy you! 772 00:35:33,696 --> 00:35:36,569 we just took the bodies to the first place we thought of. 773 00:35:36,569 --> 00:35:39,398 nothing to do with you, i swear. 774 00:35:39,398 --> 00:35:41,878 we had no idea!please don't do this! 775 00:35:47,971 --> 00:35:48,972 boo. 776 00:35:50,757 --> 00:35:54,021 i'm thinking this has to do with your natural soda. 777 00:35:54,021 --> 00:35:56,806 something not so natural in it?well, that's no secret. 778 00:35:56,806 --> 00:36:00,114 a lot of foods require additives to keep them fresh. 779 00:36:00,114 --> 00:36:02,116 fernanda was giving her friend, valerie bestin, 780 00:36:02,116 --> 00:36:05,424 crates of soda to distribute to the homeless, right? 781 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:07,948 yes. 782 00:36:07,948 --> 00:36:10,951 then a man at the shelter, martin brent, known as marty, 783 00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:13,388 died after drinking the soda, right? 784 00:36:13,388 --> 00:36:16,609 i don't know any marty.sure you do. 785 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:20,221 i'm only telling you this so you know not to tell us stories. 786 00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:22,615 why would i lie about knowing some homeless guy? 787 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,660 the assumption was that marty died 788 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:27,663 because his system was too weak to fight off the flu. 789 00:36:27,663 --> 00:36:31,014 but when fernanda got sick, she started to do some digging. 790 00:36:31,014 --> 00:36:35,323 you can't tie any of that to us.a simple blood test will show just what additives 791 00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:37,282 were present in his system. everyone at the shelter can 792 00:36:37,282 --> 00:36:38,848 confirm drinking the sodas. 793 00:36:38,848 --> 00:36:41,634 who gave them out can be tested as well. 794 00:36:41,634 --> 00:36:47,466 esther said the soda was losing too much flavor 795 00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:50,295 so we started using glycol as a stabilizer. 796 00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:52,297 we got a bad batch. 797 00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:54,168 how bad? 798 00:36:54,168 --> 00:36:57,171 esther said you had to drink a lot of it 799 00:36:57,171 --> 00:36:59,521 in order for there to be any bad effects. 800 00:36:59,521 --> 00:37:01,523 most people just got an upset stomach. 801 00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:03,917 it was only like 500 bottles. 802 00:37:03,917 --> 00:37:07,442 you knew you were endangering the lives of your consumers. 803 00:37:07,442 --> 00:37:12,360 esther said pulling the product was too expensive 804 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,189 and kept saying it was no big deal. 805 00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:17,670 who drinks 12 bottles in one go anyway? 806 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:21,674 right, and then the homeless man, marty, died. 807 00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:24,633 fernanda made the connection, started asking questions. 808 00:37:27,767 --> 00:37:30,378 fernanda wouldn't let it go, 809 00:37:30,378 --> 00:37:33,338 said we had to issue a massive recall. 810 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:35,209 she'd tell if we didn't. 811 00:37:35,209 --> 00:37:37,603 and then you killed your own cousin. 812 00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:46,089 yeah, we did. 813 00:37:49,441 --> 00:37:52,052 and then valerie showed up a week later, 814 00:37:52,052 --> 00:37:54,359 and you knew what you had to do. 815 00:37:56,535 --> 00:38:00,582 i told esther. that lady didn't know anything. 816 00:38:00,582 --> 00:38:03,585 but she kept saying someone like her 817 00:38:03,585 --> 00:38:07,589 wouldn't stop coming around and asking questions. 818 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:11,158 so she had to go. 819 00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:15,467 fernanda was my prima. 820 00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:19,384 she was supposed to stick up for her own. 821 00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:21,342 but she chose that bitch on the bus 822 00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,736 over her family. 823 00:38:55,158 --> 00:38:59,075 thank you, man. i appreciate it. really. 824 00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:00,468 it's just soda. 825 00:39:00,468 --> 00:39:02,078 it's diet, right? 826 00:39:02,078 --> 00:39:03,166 yep. 827 00:39:06,126 --> 00:39:06,909 mr. jane? 828 00:39:06,909 --> 00:39:08,433 ms. montague. 829 00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:10,739 we have some important business to conclude. 830 00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:12,306 we do? 831 00:39:16,397 --> 00:39:17,659 for you. 832 00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:20,270 ah.i-- 833 00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:22,664 hang on. 834 00:39:22,664 --> 00:39:25,101 mm-hmm. yeah, that's good. 835 00:39:25,101 --> 00:39:27,103 okay?thank you. 836 00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:29,105 i always settle my debts. 837 00:39:29,105 --> 00:39:32,239 you were right. that wasn't a serial killer. 838 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,808 mm. you remind me. i almost forgot. 839 00:39:35,808 --> 00:39:38,288 thank you. forgotten it, too. 840 00:39:38,288 --> 00:39:40,552 useful brooch. um, and i-- 841 00:39:40,552 --> 00:39:43,163 i was hoping that, you know, you might forgive me 842 00:39:43,163 --> 00:39:45,208 any misdirection i might have given you. 843 00:39:45,208 --> 00:39:46,601 oh, yes. no. 844 00:39:46,601 --> 00:39:50,257 no, i-i... actually, it was bracing 845 00:39:50,257 --> 00:39:52,781 to have one's operating principles challenged 846 00:39:52,781 --> 00:39:54,348 so... robustly. 847 00:39:54,348 --> 00:39:56,394 glad to be of service. 848 00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,613 you know, i've never participated 849 00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:00,267 in chicanery before. 850 00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:02,269 i can't condone it as a system, 851 00:40:02,269 --> 00:40:05,315 but i must admit that it adds... zest to the task at hand. 852 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,449 in fact, w-- 853 00:40:12,888 --> 00:40:17,197 how did you figure it out, that it was esther and nilda? 854 00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:21,331 just a good guess. 855 00:40:21,331 --> 00:40:23,421 when we first with them, 856 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:27,642 they were masking shame, not sadness. 857 00:40:27,642 --> 00:40:30,340 and who likes lizards? cold-blooded people. 858 00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:31,733 lizards. 859 00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:34,388 i think i shall stick with hard numbers. 860 00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:36,390 i have another guess for you. 861 00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:38,348 the caveman isn't coming back. 862 00:40:38,348 --> 00:40:40,481 he is almost certainly dead. 863 00:40:40,481 --> 00:40:43,571 possibly. i have no personal bias on the matter. 864 00:40:43,571 --> 00:40:46,661 the numbers will eventually reveal the truth either way. 865 00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:48,228 they always do. 866 00:40:48,228 --> 00:40:49,708 you really believe that? 867 00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,319 of course. if you could stand far enough back 868 00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:56,802 to see the big picture, everything is numbers. 869 00:40:56,802 --> 00:40:58,543 speaking of which... 870 00:40:58,543 --> 00:41:01,502 you gave me a gift, so i must give you one. 871 00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:04,853 i ran red john through the modeling program. 872 00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:07,682 you might find some of the data sets useful. 873 00:41:07,682 --> 00:41:12,731 hmm. wow. lot of figures and graphs here. 874 00:41:12,731 --> 00:41:14,123 that's right. 875 00:41:14,123 --> 00:41:15,211 hmm. 876 00:41:19,389 --> 00:41:21,304 good luck. 877 00:41:22,741 --> 00:41:24,220 well, thank you. 878 00:41:55,817 --> 00:41:58,559 stay tuned for scenes from our next episode. 66328

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