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10 years in the making.
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10 years in the making.
You're ready.
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Narrator: "Shark Tank" is for
anyone who dares to dream.
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I've seen
all my clients go out
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and make millions of dollars,
and I'm like, man,
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I should do that myself.
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The risk takers.
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I've put in
almost $1 million.
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-Oh!
-Whoa!
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We decided
to sell our house.
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We moved into
a camper.
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We lived in a camper
for two years.
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Herjavec: Are you kidding?
Narrator: The innovators.
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It's really cool.
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The pioneers, the doers.
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This will be
a generation-defining game.
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Narrator:
And those with zero quit.
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[ Crying ] I've brought this
to almost $5 million in sales.
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I know I come off as maybe
a kind of unassuming guy,
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but I'm an animal.
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[ Laughter ]
I get stuff done.
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I love that entrepreneurial
drive and I live it every day.
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Narrator: This season we have
exciting new guest Sharks.
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Todd Graves,
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the founder of fast-dining
phenomenon Raising Cane's.
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Jamie Kern Lima,
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creator of smash-hit
makeup brand IT Cosmetics,
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which sold to L'Oreal
for $1.2 billion.
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And tonight,
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venture capitalist and limited
partner of the Atlanta Falcons
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Rashaun Williams
joins the Tank.
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I was an early investor
in Coinbase,
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Robinhood, Ring, Casper.
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If I invest in this, this thing
is going to catch fire.
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O'Leary: The power of the Tank
is to take the story
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and amplify it geometrically.
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Narrator:
Some will stumble.
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This was a failure.
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But failures can be
the seeds of your success.
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Narrator: Some will soar.
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I actually quit
my job last week.
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Wow!
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How good did that feel?
It felt good.
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That's the American dream.
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I want to get a deal!
I don't want to mess around.
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You're in the Shark Tank.
We care if you can make money.
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Money!
Yes!
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Narrator: A brand-new season
begins now.
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We are not leaving
the Tank without a deal! Yes!
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You kidding me right now?!
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That was exhilarating!
Boom!
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Whoo!
You better watch out, buddy,
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'cause the teeth are coming out.
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Why are we
wasting our time?
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You have no idea
what you're doing!
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You're so mean, Kevin.
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What other country
can you build what you've built?
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America is still
the best country in the world.
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I think you've got
the whole package.
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This could be
our biggest deal ever.
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Whoo!
It should be painful.
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We made it all the way
to "Shark Tank"!
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-Yeah, baby!
-Oh!
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We're gonna
take you to the moon.
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Wow!
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♪♪
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Narrator: First in the Tank
is a healthier way
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to take the edge off.
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♪♪
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Hello, Sharks.
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I'm Megan Klein
from Miami, Florida.
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Yeah!
I'm seeking $500,000
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for 5% of my company,
Little Saints.
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Sharks,
very far from a teetotaler,
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I have always loved
a good cocktail.
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Back when I was a lawyer,
I was your classic
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"work hard, play hard."
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During the day I exercised,
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ate healthy, and worked
really hard, and at night,
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I rewarded myself
with cocktails.
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I always loved drinking
and socializing,
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but after a while
it really started
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to make me feel terrible.
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But I'm a partier.
I never wanted to stop drinking.
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I just wanted to drink something
that was better than alcohol.
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And that's why I created
Little Saints,
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non-alcoholic cocktails
and spirits
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fueled by
functional mushrooms,
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so that I didn't have to choose
between having fun
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and feeling good.
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And that's why
I modeled Little Saints
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after my favorite cocktails,
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like Espresso Martini
and Spicy Margarita,
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which are beloved by even
the most discerning bartenders
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for their sophisticated taste
and smell.
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Little Saints are sugar free,
only five calories per serving,
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and boosted
by functional mushrooms
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like reishi and lion's mane.
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So, which one of you Sharks
wants to join me on my mission
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to radically transform
the way that we drink
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with Little Saints?
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Whoo!
Alright, let's drink.
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So on your left,
the shortest glass,
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that is our number-one
top-selling can.
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That's a Paloma.
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This is actually
pretty good.
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That is very good.
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Greiner: Yeah, it is good.
It's tasty.
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Klein: We use two different
kinds of mushrooms
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that make you feel something.
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The mushroom in the Paloma
that you just drank
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and in that espresso martini,
that's a reishi mushroom.
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If you have a whole can of that,
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it'll give you that, like,
"take the edge off" feeling.
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It's especially pronounced if
you have like, a stressful day.
Ooh!
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John: Okay.
Ah, eww!
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Greiner: I know, Mark,
I'm having...
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That's not
my kind of taste.
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Yeah, it's
not mine either.
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I love it. I love it.
Yeah.
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I already knew
I was going to.
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These are non-psychedelic
mushrooms.
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Thank you very much.
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They are non-psychedelic
mushrooms.
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They do not get you high.
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O'Leary: Megan, I am a member
of the mushroom community
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and I invest in it.
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Lion's mane has really
taken off lately.
He actually is serious
this time.
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Non-psychedelic,
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but a lot of very interesting
medicinal metrics around it.
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Tell us about the business
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because you're saying
this thing is worth $10 million.
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Absolutely.
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How many of these drinks have
you had before you got out here?
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[ Laughter ]
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Klein: Kevin, I'm going to tell
you about the sales,
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but I would love to tell you
about my story first.
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So I graduated from college
and law school with honors.
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I practiced as an attorney
in New York --
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Good for you.
...before I pivoted into
pursuing my dream
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of becoming
an entrepreneur.
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So this is not my first rodeo.
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I ran a hydroponic basil farm.
I love that.
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I then started
a national plant-based
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salad dressing and dip brand.
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Got my Kellogg MBA
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while I was running
the plant-based foods brand.
Wow.
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So, anyways, I had savings,
and so that's why
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I started Little Saints
on my own.
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How much did you put in?
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I put in $1 million overall.
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Whoa!
Wow!
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You're all in
on that.
Hey!
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Hello!
Okay.
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And then I raised
$2.2 million
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in outside capital.
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What valuation?
$6 million.
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And then the last one
was $9 million.
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Okay.
But that was in
October 2023.
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We've grown 600%
since then.
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So, 600% is
how much?
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So we've done $5 million
in the last 12 months.
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O'Leary: In sales?
Really?
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Klein: In sales. Yeah.
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Tell us, do you have
any debt on this company?
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We have a line of credit.
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How much?
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We have a $650,000 line
and I have 500 drawn on it.
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I have -- I'll just tell you,
I have $200,000 in the bank,
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and I have $600,000
in receivables.
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O'Leary: $200,000 cash.
You're cutting it close then
right now.
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We're only burning
$30,000 a month.
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So what did you spend
the money on, then?
Well...
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Marketing.
Story or...?
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She's gonna tell us
a story.
Listen,
I made a lot of mistakes
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before we figured out
how to get it right.
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We realized that, like,
the only way
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to reach the people
that actually wanted
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the non-alcoholic drinks
was to just pivot
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and become a D-to-C company,
and that's what we did.
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So 2022, when
we only did $500,000 in sales,
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we lost $1.1 million.
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Okay.
Okay, so that was
a disaster area.
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And then 2024, we have done
$4 million in sales,
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and we have only lost, like,
almost $160,000.
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A little less than $160,000.
There we go. Yeah.
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What's your best seller?
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The St. Ember,
the bottled spirit.
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John: And how much
does it sell for?
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The bottled spirit sells
for $49.99.
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Damn!
Whoa!
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Greiner: And what does it
cost you to make?
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It costs $7, and with shipping,
all the fulfillment cost,
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boxes, all that stuff,
it costs $23.
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So do you know what
your CAC is and your ROAS?
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Yeah, of course.
Our CAC is $42.
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That's a Kellogg MBA
right here you're talking to.
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$42 in CAC.
Klein: $42, and our ROAS is
above 2.5 for the year.
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And then the long-term value
of that customer is about 160.
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So you have a four times LTV
to CAC, which is amazing.
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When do you see
cash flow break even?
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Probably Q4--
This month.
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Hey!
You got it. Yeah.
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Look, I know
the space very well.
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I know this industry.
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And what I know better than
this industry is a good founder
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when I see one --
I think you're a great founder.
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I'm not even worried
about whatever ask,
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you're going to give me
a very straight answer.
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You pivoted.
You figured out DTC.
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Love it.
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The traction you have
is amazing.
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The industry is amazing.
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So, what I would
like to do,
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I will give you
your $500,000.
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I want 10%.
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Cuban: Hello.
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That's one times my
actual sales in the past year,
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and I just hit profitability
in the past quarter.
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Thank you for the offer.
Mm-hmm. I love it.
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I think it's a great deal.
It's a $5 million valuation.
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Would you be willing to...
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What -- What --
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I wouldn't have to
raise again
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if you gave me $500,000
for 5% of my company
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and I had access
to a $2 million line of credit,
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for which I would, of course,
pay you interest.
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But that's not
what he wants.
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I know.
That's my counter.
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[ Laughter ]
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You're asking for more
and you're giving me less.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Narrator:
All Sharks are still in.
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Rashaun has offered $500,000
for 10% of Megan's
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nonalcoholic cocktail company,
Little Saints.
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But she has countered
with a bigger ask
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than what
she initially offered.
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You thought you
were gonna come in here
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and we're just going to
be just giving you
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exactly what you want?
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No, she wants
more now, too.
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O'Leary: I just want to point
something out.
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There's investment,
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and then there's
"Shark Tank" investment,
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with the aura
of "Shark Tank"
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and the 100 million eyeballs
in syndication.
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You think that's free?
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Listen, first of all,
I love the kind of woman
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that when her feet hit
the ground in the morning,
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the competition says,
"Oh, crap, she's up."
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Okay?
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And you're that kind of woman,
I think.
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-Mm-hmm.
-Thank you.
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But I can't really participate
in the drink so much.
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I don't really do
sour drinks.
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I can't really eat
citrusy things.
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When I do a deal,
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I want to have the passion for
the person, which I have here,
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but I need to have
the passion for the product too
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and participate in it.
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I wish you really good luck,
but I have to be out.
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Thank you, Lori.
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Your valuation is
way too high.
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I think that is
my biggest challenge
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because you're finding growth,
and I love it.
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But it's just not for me.
I'm out.
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Thank you.
But it tastes good.
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Cuban: Yeah, Megan, here,
I just don't do medicinals
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because there's just
no barriers to entry other than
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how much capital you invest
to market it,
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and there's always going to be
somebody willing to spend more.
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Mark, may I interrupt you
really quick?
Sure.
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I just want to make sure
that -- it's not a medicinal.
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There's no -- The mushrooms
in here are FDA GRAS.
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No, I get that, right.
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It's just people
who are buying it
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aren't buying it
to drink it like water.
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So for those reasons,
I'm out.
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But congratulations
on what you've accomplished.
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I think it's great.
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O'Leary: Megan,
great presentation.
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I know the category 'cause
I'm in the wine business.
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I actually had
an offer for you,
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but it's pointless
at this point
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because you're having
a hard time at 10%.
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I was going to do it for 15%
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because I have millions
of followers that buy my wine,
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and so many of them
are going into that journey
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of looking for alternatives
for alcohol.
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What if I went in with Rashaun
and we said,
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look, we'll both come in,
but we want 15%.
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Williams:
Yeah, I'll do that.
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And you get two Sharks
and the whole machine
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we both have.
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Megan, I'm on
a winning streak in beverages.
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That's why I'm so confident
about this.
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If you get your revenue
to $50 million,
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you can sell this business
for 4 to 6 times revenue.
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You can get there faster
with us.
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It's just a choice.
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What do you
want to do?
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I want to get the value
that I've worked
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and my team's
really worked hard for.
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And if you're going to give
me a $3.5 million valuation,
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I think I have to say no.
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Would you do it for 10%?
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Yes or no for 10?
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Let me check in with
my intuition for a second here,
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if you guys
give me a minute.
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While you're checking
with your intuition,
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the question is,
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will you get a higher valuation
in the future
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with one or both of us,
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or a higher valuation
in the future on the path
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that you're going now?
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Would the two of you
come in
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for $1 million
for 10% of the company?
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No.
No.
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Really?!
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Mark, you can do it
if you want.
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It's just not
my space, but --
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That's the same valuation
as 500K for 5%.
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So I appreciate the math,
but I like math just like you.
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Cuban:
But it's about the scale.
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Hey, guys, it's starting
to make sense to me.
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I think these things
are working.
[ Laughter ]
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We might do it for 10%.
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We're not going to do it
for less.
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10% for $500,000.
What do you want to do?
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I want to say thank you very
much for having me on the show.
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I have so much respect
for all of you,
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and I'm going to decline
the offer.
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-Good for you.
-Alright, alright.
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Good for you.
Yeah, Megan.!
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-Good luck, Megan.
-Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Klein: I'm proud of myself
for sticking to my guns.
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I know what my company is worth.
I know what I'm worth.
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Little Saints is going to be
successful no matter what.
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And the Sharks are
going to regret not taking
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my original offer.
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I think she's undervaluing
our value add.
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She has no idea
who she's competing with.
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I know because I'm investing
in these brands.
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She thinks she's going to go out
to the venture community.
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and raise $25 million?
By the way,
tomorrow morning,
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I won't even remember
what she looks like.
366
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Well, it depends on how
much you drink of that.
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[ Laughter ]
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Williams: I would describe
myself as an investor
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and a financial literacy
advocate.
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I grew up on the South Side
of Chicago.
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We grew up very poor
in a neighborhood
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where you're watching
everyone live
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the American dream from afar,
rampaged by drugs and gangs.
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We probably got evicted
every year I was in high school.
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You know, you get off the bus
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and you see your stuff
on the curb.
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But all of those things really
inspired me to understand money
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and understand why some people
don't have these issues
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and why others do.
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And then what can I do
to stop this from happening
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to my family,
but also to my entire community?
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As a student,
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I was probably
the most serious 12-year-old
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you would ever meet
in your life.
385
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I was so focused
that I wouldn't let anybody
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or anything distract me.
387
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Morehouse was the only school
I applied to.
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I drove 714 miles
on the first day
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they were accepting
applications.
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The director of admissions,
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he said,
"You know, you can mail it."
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I didn't want to wait.
I said, "Hey, I have a 4.0.
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I'm the president of this.
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I'm the captain of this."
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And he accepted on the spot,
396
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but I couldn't afford
to pay four years of college.
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So I applied to
over 100 scholarships,
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and I wound up getting
17 scholarships.
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After Morehouse,
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I accepted my first job
at Goldman Sachs
401
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with one condition --
being able to work in
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the Chicago office instead of
the New York headquarters,
403
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because I made a promise
to my community
404
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that I would come back.
405
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The next 10 years, I started
my first venture capital fund.
406
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We were early investors
in Coinbase, Robinhood,
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Ring, Casper, PillPack,
Dropbox, Lyft.
408
00:13:59,972 --> 00:14:02,608
I manage over $1 billion
in venture capital.
409
00:14:02,675 --> 00:14:04,710
I'm a limited partner
in the Atlanta Falcons
410
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and I own a dozen businesses
across the country.
411
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You really turned $10 million
in capital plus star power
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into $100 million
in 10 years.
413
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One of the reasons
I started working
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with athletes and entertainers
so much is
415
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because an article was saying
that 80% of athletes
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were going broke
within five years of retiring.
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A lot of these guys
are from my community,
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00:14:21,594 --> 00:14:23,762
so I'm teaching them
how to source deals,
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structure them, exit them.
420
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We go through the top 20 reasons
that startups fail.
421
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We go through
how to fund your startup.
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I'm here to give you
the answers to the test.
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I teach financial literacy
and help all of the kids
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that I left behind
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learn the things that I learned
in order to make it out.
426
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[ Laughter ]
427
00:14:39,511 --> 00:14:41,146
Every level
that I accomplish,
428
00:14:41,213 --> 00:14:43,315
I'm trying to push
that success a little further.
429
00:14:43,382 --> 00:14:44,884
Another way
to think about success,
430
00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:46,385
my favorite way
to think about it --
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00:14:46,452 --> 00:14:48,554
You ever go to
a very exclusive party,
432
00:14:48,621 --> 00:14:52,124
invite-only list, and people are
standing around in that party
433
00:14:52,191 --> 00:14:55,628
and they're not really dancing
because they all belong there.
434
00:14:55,694 --> 00:14:57,763
But then there's one guy
drinking all the drinks
435
00:14:57,830 --> 00:14:59,365
and dancing
when no one else is,
436
00:14:59,431 --> 00:15:00,432
who snuck in.
437
00:15:00,499 --> 00:15:02,434
That's how I feel in life.
438
00:15:02,501 --> 00:15:04,169
I'm not supposed to be here.
439
00:15:04,236 --> 00:15:06,038
I consider that successful --
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00:15:06,105 --> 00:15:08,540
sneaking into the best party
in the world.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Narrator:
Next up is a business
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that's making custom-fit
products more accessible.
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♪♪
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00:15:35,901 --> 00:15:37,169
Hi, Sharks.
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00:15:37,236 --> 00:15:39,104
My name is Matthew
from Ventura, California,
448
00:15:39,171 --> 00:15:41,340
and I'm the founder
of TruFIT Customs.
449
00:15:41,407 --> 00:15:42,875
Now, we know it's important
450
00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:44,610
for Sharks to keep
their teeth in their mouth.
451
00:15:44,677 --> 00:15:47,146
Well, it's also important
for athletes.
452
00:15:47,212 --> 00:15:49,181
It's why they wear
sports mouth guards.
453
00:15:49,248 --> 00:15:52,918
But traditional mouthpieces are
big, bulky, and uncomfortable.
454
00:15:52,985 --> 00:15:55,487
They're the first thing left
behind on your way to practice,
455
00:15:55,554 --> 00:15:58,624
and they almost completely
eliminate in-game communication.
456
00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:01,126
How do we expect
these boil-and-bust appliances
457
00:16:01,193 --> 00:16:03,796
to fit everyone's
unique dental profile?
458
00:16:03,862 --> 00:16:05,965
And getting a custom-fit guard
from the dentist
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00:16:06,031 --> 00:16:08,367
is expensive and such a hassle.
460
00:16:08,434 --> 00:16:10,235
That's why TruFIT created
a mouthpiece
461
00:16:10,302 --> 00:16:12,171
athletes actually want to wear.
462
00:16:12,237 --> 00:16:14,640
Each guard is made
with the latest 3D print
463
00:16:14,707 --> 00:16:16,308
and scan technology.
464
00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:17,509
They feature
shockwave-dampering
465
00:16:17,576 --> 00:16:18,510
compression pads,
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00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:20,412
a sleek, slim profile,
467
00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,915
and are cut so you can breathe
and speak as clearly
468
00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:24,483
as I'm talking to you now.
469
00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:26,919
In fact...
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I'm currently wearing one.
[ Laughs ] Nice.
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00:16:29,288 --> 00:16:31,090
It's no coincidence
472
00:16:31,156 --> 00:16:33,459
that over 1,000 professional
athletes across the NFL,
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NHL, PLL, NCAA, and UFC choose
to wear TruFIT in our game.
474
00:16:38,030 --> 00:16:40,299
But we don't just make
the best mouthpiece in sports.
475
00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:43,135
We're on a mission to bring
custom fit to the people,
476
00:16:43,202 --> 00:16:46,638
and that's why we're asking
for $750,000
477
00:16:46,705 --> 00:16:49,208
for 5% of our business.
All: Oh!
478
00:16:49,274 --> 00:16:51,076
Ay chihuahua caramba!
479
00:16:51,143 --> 00:16:52,244
Whoo!
Greiner: His mouthpiece
fell out.
480
00:16:52,311 --> 00:16:53,679
Where's my mouthpiece?
481
00:16:53,746 --> 00:16:55,514
So, Sharks, we have
some samples for you.
482
00:16:55,581 --> 00:16:58,183
O'Leary: Now, Matt, when I get
my grinder for sleep,
483
00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:00,652
they laser my mouth
to get a perfect fit.
484
00:17:00,719 --> 00:17:02,154
Is that how you're doing these?
485
00:17:02,221 --> 00:17:04,089
Because how are
you going to get custom
486
00:17:04,156 --> 00:17:06,091
unless you're getting
the exact fit for each mouth?
487
00:17:06,158 --> 00:17:07,793
It's a great question.
So --
488
00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:09,795
That's why I asked it, actually.
489
00:17:09,862 --> 00:17:11,397
[ Laughs ] So, that
impression kit right there
490
00:17:11,463 --> 00:17:13,298
is what we use for our
direct-to-consumer model.
491
00:17:13,365 --> 00:17:16,035
So this is the gooey stuff
you stick in your mouth.
492
00:17:16,101 --> 00:17:17,770
Hall: So, what you're
going to get at the dentist
493
00:17:17,836 --> 00:17:19,772
is an alginate impression putty.
494
00:17:19,838 --> 00:17:21,573
What we use is silicone putty.
495
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,308
It's easier to work with.
496
00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:25,110
But there's
a lot of these.
497
00:17:25,177 --> 00:17:27,513
You have a ton
of competition.
498
00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:30,416
It seems like a solution
to a nonexistent problem.
499
00:17:30,482 --> 00:17:31,784
Since there's so many
already in place, right?
500
00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:33,052
Yeah, like,
is there a reason
501
00:17:33,118 --> 00:17:34,620
why you think
there was a lane
502
00:17:34,686 --> 00:17:37,056
that wasn't being taken
by others?
503
00:17:37,122 --> 00:17:40,092
We have a great hold on
digital manufacturing.
504
00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:43,896
We specifically know how
to scale custom-fit fabrication.
505
00:17:43,962 --> 00:17:45,731
So, when you say
digital manufacturing,
506
00:17:45,798 --> 00:17:47,433
are you talking
about 3D printers
507
00:17:47,499 --> 00:17:48,434
or actual robots?
508
00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:49,935
The whole thing --
509
00:17:50,002 --> 00:17:53,372
3D printers to the 3D scanning
to CNC machining.
510
00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:55,641
We can manufacture
at such a high level
511
00:17:55,707 --> 00:17:57,676
because we're almost
like an assembly line.
512
00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:59,411
When we're fabricating these,
513
00:17:59,478 --> 00:18:01,113
we're able to do it
at such high volumes
514
00:18:01,180 --> 00:18:03,015
because it's machine to machine
to machine to machine.
515
00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,951
All this is great,
but you have a hefty valuation,
516
00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:07,619
so we want to hear about
those hefty sales.
517
00:18:07,686 --> 00:18:08,620
Yes, sir.
518
00:18:08,687 --> 00:18:09,822
We started in 2022.
519
00:18:09,888 --> 00:18:11,423
We did $115,000.
520
00:18:11,490 --> 00:18:14,293
In 2023 we did $750,000.
521
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,794
-Mm.
-Wow.
522
00:18:15,861 --> 00:18:19,164
And then now this year we're
expected to do $1.4 million.
523
00:18:19,231 --> 00:18:20,199
That ain't worth
$15 million.
524
00:18:20,265 --> 00:18:21,500
Hm, okay.
Now you have my attention.
525
00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:22,734
And how much
will you lose?
526
00:18:22,801 --> 00:18:24,703
We will make money.
Okay.
Good for you.
527
00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:27,840
O'Leary:
Matt, you understand you're
asking for close to 15x sales.
528
00:18:27,906 --> 00:18:29,141
This is not realistic at all.
529
00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:30,642
You know,
Mr. Wonderful,
530
00:18:30,709 --> 00:18:32,377
I know
that you did your dissertation
531
00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:34,379
on the dental industry.
Yes, of course.
You're right.
532
00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:36,348
And you know there's
those three big guys in the room
533
00:18:36,415 --> 00:18:38,283
that are --
that own the entire market.
534
00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:41,520
Yes.
But the legal landscape
has changed over the past years,
535
00:18:41,587 --> 00:18:43,288
and it allowed
direct-to-consumer
536
00:18:43,355 --> 00:18:45,624
to enter this market,
which is taking market share
537
00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:47,860
from traditional
medical practitioners.
538
00:18:47,926 --> 00:18:49,161
How much does it cost you
to make?
539
00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:51,163
And tell us how much
you're selling it for.
540
00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:54,566
Our direct-to-consumer
first-time customer is $95.
541
00:18:54,633 --> 00:18:56,735
It costs us $31,
including shipping.
542
00:18:56,802 --> 00:18:58,637
Our CAC is $23.
543
00:18:58,704 --> 00:19:01,173
We do about a four times
return on ad spend.
544
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,142
And so even with that CAC,
545
00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:06,011
we have about a 40% margin
on our first-time customer.
546
00:19:06,078 --> 00:19:10,149
Matt, the valuation
is insane.
547
00:19:10,215 --> 00:19:11,517
And it's not even like,
548
00:19:11,583 --> 00:19:14,253
"almost reasonable
so let's negotiate it."
549
00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:16,121
I just don't see it working
to the valuation.
550
00:19:16,188 --> 00:19:18,123
So for those reasons
amounts, I'm out.
551
00:19:18,190 --> 00:19:19,558
Okay.
552
00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:22,361
Listen, when a guy who
just put another $3.5 billion
553
00:19:22,427 --> 00:19:24,129
in his pocket
said the valuation is too high,
554
00:19:24,196 --> 00:19:26,131
it's really too high
for me.
[ Laughs ]
555
00:19:26,198 --> 00:19:27,166
Meaning Mark.
556
00:19:27,232 --> 00:19:29,168
So with that being said,
I'm out.
557
00:19:29,234 --> 00:19:31,136
Yeah.
Thank you, Daymond.
558
00:19:31,203 --> 00:19:33,739
Look, I'm super torn on this
because on one hand,
559
00:19:33,805 --> 00:19:36,375
I mentor and I work
with over 100 athletes
560
00:19:36,441 --> 00:19:39,311
who are not only athletes
but they're investors,
561
00:19:39,378 --> 00:19:40,746
and they like
to get into product now.
562
00:19:40,812 --> 00:19:42,347
It's this new generation
of athletes.
563
00:19:42,414 --> 00:19:45,250
And I'm a limited partner
in the Atlanta Falcons.
564
00:19:45,317 --> 00:19:46,518
So I'm into the product.
565
00:19:46,585 --> 00:19:47,619
Let me ask a question.
566
00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:49,054
How much have you raised?
567
00:19:49,121 --> 00:19:50,656
We've raised a million total.
568
00:19:50,722 --> 00:19:52,424
What valuation
did they put it in at?
569
00:19:52,491 --> 00:19:54,092
$7.5 million.
570
00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:56,061
How many units are
you going to be able to make
571
00:19:56,128 --> 00:19:57,362
and ship this year?
572
00:19:57,429 --> 00:19:59,364
You know,
we'd probably look to do 20,000.
573
00:19:59,431 --> 00:20:03,902
It's not a lot for world
domination of mouth guards.
574
00:20:03,969 --> 00:20:06,238
How are you going to get
millions of customers
575
00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:07,506
outside of the athletes?
576
00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:09,007
Hall: So, let me explain that.
And when?
577
00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:10,542
So, this year, we have
a team sales model
578
00:20:10,609 --> 00:20:12,110
that's really budding.
579
00:20:12,177 --> 00:20:13,912
What we do is we provide
guards to all these teams.
580
00:20:13,979 --> 00:20:16,014
They seed the players,
the players love them.
581
00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:17,983
Then we approach the players
for an affiliate deal.
582
00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,318
That's smart.
No, that's smart.
583
00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:20,419
It's an affiliate program,
right?
584
00:20:20,485 --> 00:20:22,020
Are you paying
commission?
585
00:20:22,087 --> 00:20:23,855
Yeah, yeah,
we give them a percent of sale.
O'Leary: Okay.
586
00:20:23,922 --> 00:20:25,524
I love your deal.
I like you.
587
00:20:25,591 --> 00:20:27,192
I'm having a huge problem,
like everybody else,
588
00:20:27,259 --> 00:20:28,694
about your valuation.
589
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,029
Makes no sense at all.
So, here's an offer for you.
590
00:20:31,096 --> 00:20:33,365
I'll do the $750,000.
591
00:20:33,432 --> 00:20:36,201
I'll drop my equity ask
down to 3%.
592
00:20:36,268 --> 00:20:38,537
But you're going to pay me
two bucks a unit
593
00:20:38,604 --> 00:20:42,007
until I get back
$2,250,000.
594
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:43,809
I think
that's a bad offer.
595
00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:47,446
It's going to take me
four years at your current rate.
596
00:20:47,512 --> 00:20:49,448
But you get Mr. Wonderful.
597
00:20:49,514 --> 00:20:52,117
We do one thing for you,
and only one --
598
00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:53,285
get your CAC way down.
599
00:20:53,352 --> 00:20:54,620
I got millions of followers.
600
00:20:54,686 --> 00:20:56,488
I got a massive
social media network.
601
00:20:56,555 --> 00:21:00,259
Say yes, and we fall in love
in the denture business.
602
00:21:00,325 --> 00:21:01,627
Wow, Kevin.
603
00:21:01,693 --> 00:21:03,262
I will just tell you
my thought.
604
00:21:03,328 --> 00:21:04,997
You're doing things
the right way,
605
00:21:05,063 --> 00:21:07,833
but I think that
your valuation is too high.
606
00:21:07,899 --> 00:21:10,269
I would want to see
a lot more proof
607
00:21:10,335 --> 00:21:12,638
and it would take forever
to get my money back.
608
00:21:12,704 --> 00:21:15,440
I'm sorry.
I'm out.
609
00:21:15,507 --> 00:21:17,809
Listen,
I'm a venture capitalist,
610
00:21:17,876 --> 00:21:20,145
and there are two types
of investments.
611
00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:22,414
There are motorcycles
and rocket ships.
612
00:21:22,481 --> 00:21:24,916
So, motorcycles are common
and they take regular fuel.
613
00:21:24,983 --> 00:21:27,052
Rocket ships are rare.
614
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,589
Very few of them are made,
and they take rocket fuel.
615
00:21:30,656 --> 00:21:34,259
VC's sell rocket fuel.
So I'm looking for rockets.
616
00:21:34,326 --> 00:21:37,296
You don't have the growth rate
and the amount of revenue
617
00:21:37,362 --> 00:21:39,231
as a rocket,
but you have the potential.
618
00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:41,033
So you're trying
to take advantage of that.
619
00:21:41,099 --> 00:21:43,702
And I know why
your valuation is $15 million.
620
00:21:43,769 --> 00:21:45,470
Because someone
told you
621
00:21:45,537 --> 00:21:46,772
that you had to double
the post-money valuation
622
00:21:46,838 --> 00:21:47,939
of your previous round
623
00:21:48,006 --> 00:21:49,708
like every other
venture-backed company.
624
00:21:49,775 --> 00:21:50,742
So I get all of that.
625
00:21:50,809 --> 00:21:53,211
So I want to make you
an offer.
626
00:21:53,278 --> 00:21:54,212
Whoo!
627
00:21:54,279 --> 00:22:00,519
♪♪
628
00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:06,058
♪♪
629
00:22:06,124 --> 00:22:07,392
Narrator:
Three Sharks are out.
630
00:22:07,459 --> 00:22:09,995
Matthew has one offer
on the table from Kevin
631
00:22:10,062 --> 00:22:12,764
for his custom mouthguard
company, TruFIT.
632
00:22:12,831 --> 00:22:14,766
But Rashaun
is also interested.
633
00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:16,968
Just to give you
one more summary of it.
634
00:22:17,035 --> 00:22:19,705
750,000 cash-a-rino.
That's a lot of money.
635
00:22:19,771 --> 00:22:21,406
Yeah, yeah.
3% equity.
636
00:22:21,473 --> 00:22:24,710
And two bucks a unit
till I get back $2,250,000.
637
00:22:24,776 --> 00:22:26,211
That's my deal.
638
00:22:26,278 --> 00:22:28,046
First, don't do
the royalty deal.
639
00:22:28,113 --> 00:22:30,816
That's a bad deal.
I would rather you take --
640
00:22:30,882 --> 00:22:32,718
There's never a bad deal
from Mr. Wonderful.
641
00:22:32,784 --> 00:22:34,519
That's impossible.
642
00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:36,254
I'd rather you take that money
and reinvest it into growth.
643
00:22:36,321 --> 00:22:38,123
100%.
I don't want you to be
profitable at all.
644
00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:39,725
I don't want you increasing
your expenses.
645
00:22:39,791 --> 00:22:41,360
I don't want
anything coming off top,
646
00:22:41,426 --> 00:22:42,627
because I want you
to grow that revenue
647
00:22:42,694 --> 00:22:43,795
and crush
all your competitors.
648
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:45,530
That's the venture way.
Right?
649
00:22:45,597 --> 00:22:46,832
So the first thing I want to do
is I want to offer you
650
00:22:46,898 --> 00:22:49,334
the $750,000.
651
00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:53,071
I want to bring in
10 to 20 athletes
652
00:22:53,138 --> 00:22:56,341
as brand ambassadors
and/or investors.
653
00:22:56,408 --> 00:22:59,544
But for that,
I want 10% of the business.
654
00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:04,015
The greed, the greed!
I have never seen --
655
00:23:04,082 --> 00:23:05,617
Cuban: That's nothing.
If you say no to that...
656
00:23:05,684 --> 00:23:07,285
I thought
I was being generous.
657
00:23:07,352 --> 00:23:10,522
Actually, that sounds
smart to me.
658
00:23:10,589 --> 00:23:13,091
Would you be interested
in doing...
659
00:23:13,158 --> 00:23:15,761
a million for 8%?
660
00:23:15,827 --> 00:23:17,996
[ Groans ]
You going the wrong
direction here, man.
661
00:23:18,063 --> 00:23:21,333
No, you're going
the wrong way.
662
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,736
I just offered you things that
are worth more than $1 million
663
00:23:24,803 --> 00:23:26,471
because of
my track record.
664
00:23:26,538 --> 00:23:28,106
I was an early investor
in Coinbase, Robinhood,
665
00:23:28,173 --> 00:23:30,108
Ring, Casper,
PillPack, Dropbox.
666
00:23:30,175 --> 00:23:31,376
I'm literally
on a winning streak.
667
00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:32,978
So if I invest in this,
668
00:23:33,044 --> 00:23:34,146
this thing is going
to catch fire,
669
00:23:34,212 --> 00:23:35,680
and you're going
to raise money,
670
00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:39,084
and you won't have to do
anything but kick ass.
671
00:23:41,553 --> 00:23:44,556
Yeah, I'm sticking to my offer,
so I need an answer.
672
00:23:44,623 --> 00:23:46,658
Okay.
So you got two offers.
673
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:52,464
Well, we already provide
to the Falcons.
674
00:23:52,531 --> 00:23:54,299
So, Rashaun, I'd love
to do a deal with you.
675
00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:57,335
Let's go.
Alright, alright, alright.
676
00:23:57,402 --> 00:23:59,037
Alright. Excellent, man.
Thank you.
677
00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:00,872
Appreciate you.
Oh, thank you.
678
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:02,340
Welcome to the family.
Yeah, man.
679
00:24:02,407 --> 00:24:03,708
Congrats, Matt.
Congrats.
680
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:05,043
Hall: Thank you guys.
Alright.
681
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:06,311
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
682
00:24:06,378 --> 00:24:07,479
Whoo-hoo-hoo!
683
00:24:07,546 --> 00:24:08,780
Hall: This is
absolutely incredible.
684
00:24:08,847 --> 00:24:10,081
It gives us the opportunity
685
00:24:10,148 --> 00:24:11,683
to provide
to all of our customers
686
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:14,186
and really go to the next level
with our custom-fit product.
687
00:24:14,252 --> 00:24:15,887
So, yeah, this is...
688
00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:17,289
Shark Tank's amazing.
689
00:24:17,355 --> 00:24:18,690
Congratulations, man.
I'm fired up about this one.
690
00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:20,125
First deal.
That's fantastic.
Yeah.
691
00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:22,127
Greiner: First deal, Rashaun!
Cuban: Good job, Rashaun.
692
00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:23,128
Thank you guys.
693
00:24:23,195 --> 00:24:26,731
♪♪
694
00:24:29,501 --> 00:24:34,973
♪♪
695
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,242
Narrator: Next up is a brand
with a mission
696
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:39,744
to inspire cultural pride.
697
00:24:39,811 --> 00:24:48,487
♪♪
698
00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:50,255
Hi, my name
is Sam Hyun.
699
00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:51,890
And I'm Adam King.
700
00:24:51,957 --> 00:24:54,493
And we're two unapologetic
Asian Americans from Boston.
701
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:59,097
We're seeking $100,000
for a 15.87% stake
702
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:01,266
in our revolutionary
sneaker brand.
703
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:04,102
Sharks, did you know that
Asian Americans are obsessed
704
00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:05,470
with sneakers
705
00:25:05,537 --> 00:25:07,272
and are a huge factor
in driving sneaker culture
706
00:25:07,339 --> 00:25:09,641
and a significant percentage
of all sneaker sales?
707
00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:11,243
I'm one of those guys.
708
00:25:11,309 --> 00:25:13,478
I live, breathe,
and sleep sneakers.
709
00:25:13,545 --> 00:25:15,413
I even slept on the street
overnight
710
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,249
to cop a pair.
711
00:25:17,315 --> 00:25:19,017
After working in the
sneaker industry for 20 years,
712
00:25:19,084 --> 00:25:20,819
I got so tired
of hearing
713
00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:23,555
that Asian Americans are
"follower consumers."
714
00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,157
And that is
why we started 1587 Sneakers,
715
00:25:26,224 --> 00:25:28,894
because 1587
is actually the year
716
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,763
that the first Asian is
documented to have set foot
717
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:33,832
in what is now known
as North America.
718
00:25:33,899 --> 00:25:36,167
So when people say,
"You're new to this country,
719
00:25:36,234 --> 00:25:37,502
you're a foreigner,
720
00:25:37,569 --> 00:25:38,703
go back to your country" --
What?!
721
00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:39,938
We've been here
400 years!
722
00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:41,273
[ Laughter ]
723
00:25:41,339 --> 00:25:43,742
And so that's why
we launched with the Morro Bay.
724
00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:45,677
Not only is the Morro Bay
a throwback
725
00:25:45,744 --> 00:25:48,013
to '80s
basketball sneakers,
726
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:50,482
Morro Bay is also
the exact landing spot
727
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,351
for where that first Asian
set foot in this country.
728
00:25:53,418 --> 00:25:54,953
Next, we have
the AP87.
729
00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:56,521
This is a classic
tennis silhouette
730
00:25:56,588 --> 00:25:58,557
that looks great
with any occasion.
731
00:25:58,623 --> 00:26:01,226
All our sneakers are made with
the world's greatest leather
732
00:26:01,293 --> 00:26:02,727
and natural rubber,
733
00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:04,930
so your sneakies
will always look like a FOB --
734
00:26:04,996 --> 00:26:06,464
[ Together ]
Fresh out of the box.
735
00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:07,666
[ Laughter ]
736
00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:10,001
So, Sharks,
who's ready to walk with us
737
00:26:10,068 --> 00:26:12,504
and change the sneaker game
forever?
738
00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:14,306
Alright, love it.
Love it, love it.
739
00:26:14,372 --> 00:26:15,607
So, in front of you,
740
00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:17,208
we have customized
sneakers for each of you.
741
00:26:17,275 --> 00:26:19,444
So you can smell the leather,
feel the quality.
742
00:26:19,511 --> 00:26:21,279
You feel the softness
and the comfort.
743
00:26:21,346 --> 00:26:23,114
Are you guys marketing
towards Asians only
744
00:26:23,181 --> 00:26:24,683
or is it just for everyone?
745
00:26:24,749 --> 00:26:26,685
So, right now,
we're marketing towards Asians.
746
00:26:26,751 --> 00:26:28,520
One thing
we're super excited about --
747
00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:31,122
30% of our customers
aren't Asian American.
748
00:26:31,189 --> 00:26:32,457
Oh, wow.
So we definitely think
this has legs with everyone.
749
00:26:32,524 --> 00:26:33,992
So, walk us through
your business model.
750
00:26:34,059 --> 00:26:35,894
You're selling
direct to consumer?
Correct.
751
00:26:35,961 --> 00:26:37,696
Where are you sourcing
the product from?
752
00:26:37,762 --> 00:26:39,331
Williams: It says Italy
in the tag, right?
Yeah.
753
00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:41,666
Italy?
Yeah, it says
made in Italy.
754
00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:44,469
So, up until now,
we did all our stuff in Italy
755
00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:46,237
because they are great
for small batches
756
00:26:46,304 --> 00:26:47,439
and testing concepts.
757
00:26:47,505 --> 00:26:49,240
This is my third
sneaker startup,
758
00:26:49,307 --> 00:26:50,809
so I understand the importance
of having good margins.
759
00:26:50,875 --> 00:26:52,544
What happened
to the other two?
760
00:26:52,611 --> 00:26:54,145
The first one, I was just
employee number four.
761
00:26:54,212 --> 00:26:57,182
We went from
$800,000 to $8 million.
762
00:26:57,248 --> 00:26:59,184
Then you started
the next deal.
763
00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:02,887
So that brand was marketed
towards African Americans,
764
00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:06,024
and that company was the first
time for me being in charge.
765
00:27:06,091 --> 00:27:08,193
And we learned --
I learned a lot on the --
766
00:27:08,259 --> 00:27:10,195
So it failed miserably,
is what you're saying?
767
00:27:10,261 --> 00:27:12,197
[ Laughter ]
768
00:27:12,263 --> 00:27:13,465
And why is this one
going to work
769
00:27:13,531 --> 00:27:14,933
when the other two didn't?
Great question.
770
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,368
Because of
our messaging.
771
00:27:16,434 --> 00:27:18,036
Walk me through that process.
I never heard of you.
772
00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:19,838
Snap my fingers --
I'm Asian now.
773
00:27:19,904 --> 00:27:21,306
How are you going to
communicate with me?
774
00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:23,241
One of our greatest assets
is Sam.
775
00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:25,910
So, he is actively involved
in the Asian American community.
776
00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:27,245
Online everywhere?
777
00:27:27,312 --> 00:27:29,080
Sam, tell us about you.
What do you do?
778
00:27:29,147 --> 00:27:31,683
So, I was actually
born in --
779
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:33,818
just outside of Boston
to a single mom.
780
00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:36,021
And she worked every job
under the sun
781
00:27:36,087 --> 00:27:37,689
trying to make things work,
and it was...
782
00:27:37,756 --> 00:27:39,457
You know, the American dream
tells you if you come here,
783
00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:41,059
you work hard,
you play by the rules,
784
00:27:41,126 --> 00:27:42,527
that you can achieve
anything you want.
785
00:27:42,594 --> 00:27:44,429
But watching her
working so hard,
786
00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:47,265
working three jobs and
becoming a small business owner,
787
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:48,933
you just realize
that that reality
788
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,035
wasn't the case
for everybody.
789
00:27:50,101 --> 00:27:51,603
Yeah.
790
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:53,638
And so I decided that I want to
dedicate myself to making sure
791
00:27:53,705 --> 00:27:56,174
that America lives up to the
promise that it said it would.
792
00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:57,942
And so for 10 years,
793
00:27:58,009 --> 00:27:59,978
I spent my career in both
government and advocacy work.
794
00:28:00,045 --> 00:28:03,281
So during the wake of anti-Asian
hate and the rise in violence,
795
00:28:03,348 --> 00:28:04,983
we spoke out a lot
and we made sure
796
00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:06,317
that people
were understanding
797
00:28:06,384 --> 00:28:07,819
what my community
was going through.
798
00:28:07,886 --> 00:28:09,054
So do you have
a wide following
799
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,288
on social media
right now?
800
00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:11,956
About 250,000
followers.
801
00:28:12,023 --> 00:28:14,492
How many people follow the
company's Instagram account?
802
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:15,794
Roughly 7,000.
803
00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:17,796
Ugh.
804
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:19,798
Right now,
your followers,
805
00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:22,333
your lifestyle brand hasn't
caught up to the opportunity,
806
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,702
but I'm still trying
to figure it out.
807
00:28:23,768 --> 00:28:25,637
John: Alright, how much
does it cost you to make it
808
00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:27,472
and how much
do you sell it for?
809
00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:30,475
When we built in Italy,
the landed cost was $110.
810
00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:32,343
Greiner: Wow.
The retail was $288.
811
00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:34,412
But starting in three weeks,
we transferred
812
00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:36,981
90% of our production
to Asia.
813
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:38,483
So now the landed cost
is $50,
814
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,251
and we're going to retail
at $175.
815
00:28:40,318 --> 00:28:42,287
We wanted to make sure
816
00:28:42,353 --> 00:28:44,022
that we also understood our
worth as a luxury brand shoe
817
00:28:44,089 --> 00:28:46,324
and we price it at that point,
but also within reach
818
00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:48,493
and accessible
to as many people as possible.
819
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,694
When were you guys
founded?
820
00:28:49,761 --> 00:28:51,262
We've only been in operation
for 10 months.
821
00:28:51,329 --> 00:28:53,732
And what do you project
to do for revenue this year?
822
00:28:53,798 --> 00:28:55,900
We're projected
for $500,000 this year.
823
00:28:55,967 --> 00:28:58,470
In the last 10 months,
we've done $240,000.
824
00:28:58,536 --> 00:29:01,573
So, have you calculated
your customer acquisition cost?
825
00:29:01,639 --> 00:29:03,908
Our acquisition cost
is $45
826
00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:06,077
and our average purchase
is $170.
827
00:29:06,144 --> 00:29:08,747
You guys have to really build
the lifestyle part of this.
828
00:29:08,813 --> 00:29:10,415
And that's also going to help
you get
829
00:29:10,482 --> 00:29:12,150
your customer acquisition cost
down,
830
00:29:12,217 --> 00:29:13,451
because right now it's
too big of a percentage
831
00:29:13,518 --> 00:29:14,652
of your profit margins.
832
00:29:14,719 --> 00:29:16,488
Well, what do you need?
What do you need?
833
00:29:16,554 --> 00:29:17,489
Well, we definitely
have to scale.
834
00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:18,857
So that's cash.
Yeah.
835
00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:20,492
What else?
And be able to get
into retail spaces.
836
00:29:20,558 --> 00:29:21,760
So we've already started.
837
00:29:21,826 --> 00:29:23,428
But are you really designed
for retail?
838
00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:25,630
Because I mean,
that's hard to sell in retail.
839
00:29:25,697 --> 00:29:28,133
And you don't get your
mission statement out.
840
00:29:28,199 --> 00:29:30,869
Listen, I don't think this is
the right business for me.
841
00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:34,405
I'm really not
a very good sneaker person.
842
00:29:34,472 --> 00:29:36,641
I mean, I -- you know,
to get on the treadmill,
843
00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,042
but that's like it for me.
844
00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:39,611
Not the right deal,
though, today.
845
00:29:39,677 --> 00:29:40,945
I'm sorry. I'm out.
846
00:29:41,012 --> 00:29:42,580
Thank you so much.
We appreciate that.
847
00:29:42,647 --> 00:29:44,516
So, guys,
the shoe space,
848
00:29:44,582 --> 00:29:47,685
which is 80% of your sales,
is incredibly competitive.
849
00:29:47,752 --> 00:29:51,189
The idea of going into retail,
to me, that's sheer insanity.
850
00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:53,158
This isn't for me. I'm out.
851
00:29:53,224 --> 00:29:54,726
Williams: Listen, in my world,
852
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,829
I look at how many points
of failure are there between now
853
00:29:57,896 --> 00:29:59,798
and where this business
needs to get to.
854
00:29:59,864 --> 00:30:03,101
And the ones that have like
three to seven points of failure
855
00:30:03,168 --> 00:30:06,137
that we can identify and
mitigate and structure around,
856
00:30:06,204 --> 00:30:08,139
I'm excited about those.
Sure.
857
00:30:08,206 --> 00:30:10,809
And for you guys, there like
25 things that need to go right.
858
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:14,112
But the most important thing
for me is the lack of traction.
859
00:30:14,179 --> 00:30:15,780
If you had
a bigger community,
860
00:30:15,847 --> 00:30:18,416
if you were viral,
like how he is personally,
861
00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:20,051
and you can sell them anything,
862
00:30:20,118 --> 00:30:21,653
then I can see this
as a lifestyle brand
863
00:30:21,719 --> 00:30:23,421
and I would be more excited.
864
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:26,391
But because it's not,
I'm out.
865
00:30:27,025 --> 00:30:29,627
Here's where I have
a bit of a challenge with it.
866
00:30:29,694 --> 00:30:31,196
I've been in this business,
867
00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:33,131
and when I did buy
the company Etonic,
868
00:30:33,198 --> 00:30:36,901
I realized so much that goes
into these, this footwear.
869
00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:38,770
And I don't know
if I want to take that part
870
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:40,471
of the journey with you,
871
00:30:40,538 --> 00:30:42,473
especially
if you're going into retail,
872
00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:44,542
where you'll sell out of
all your 9 1/2's and 10's,
873
00:30:44,609 --> 00:30:45,944
and then you have
a massive amount
874
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:47,278
of inventory sitting there
875
00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:48,813
that's just going to deplete
your bottom line.
876
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,515
And those are the things
you're going to have to learn
877
00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:52,350
before I would be ready
to invest in you.
878
00:30:52,417 --> 00:30:54,953
So, good luck.
Powerful idea.
879
00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:57,322
I'm out.
But I love these sneakers.
880
00:30:57,388 --> 00:30:59,057
Yeah, guys,
I disagree with Rashaun.
881
00:30:59,123 --> 00:31:01,993
You don't have 25 points
of failure or problems.
882
00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:03,862
You just have to find
your right path.
883
00:31:03,928 --> 00:31:05,697
And you want to be bigger,
bigger, bigger
884
00:31:05,763 --> 00:31:07,298
because you
want to go into retail
885
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:09,000
'cause you think that's
where you're going to scale.
886
00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:10,568
So you think
we should focus on D-to-C?
887
00:31:10,635 --> 00:31:12,303
Yes! 100%.
Greiner: Yeah.
888
00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:14,272
Because you have no margin
in this thing.
889
00:31:14,339 --> 00:31:16,241
You'll kill it.
Bam, bam, bam!
890
00:31:16,307 --> 00:31:18,109
You get to control
your own destiny.
891
00:31:18,176 --> 00:31:20,144
You need to reel it in
and just follow the course
892
00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:21,980
that is organic for you.
893
00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:24,616
So, for those reasons,
I'm out.
894
00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:25,783
Awesome. Thank you.
895
00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:27,852
-Good luck, guys.
-Thank you, guys.
896
00:31:30,588 --> 00:31:31,856
King: The advice
the Sharks gave us
897
00:31:31,923 --> 00:31:33,291
is really good
food for thought.
898
00:31:33,358 --> 00:31:34,425
We went into this to
being like,
899
00:31:34,492 --> 00:31:36,294
we're doing really well
in D-to-C,
900
00:31:36,361 --> 00:31:37,996
but we gotta
get into retail.
901
00:31:38,062 --> 00:31:39,230
They've raised some
really good points,
902
00:31:39,297 --> 00:31:41,232
like maybe you don't
need retail.
903
00:31:41,299 --> 00:31:43,534
So we're definitely going to
take what they say and reassess.
904
00:31:52,010 --> 00:31:54,579
Just like you've
talked about forever.
905
00:31:54,646 --> 00:31:56,981
10 years in the making.
You're ready.
906
00:31:57,048 --> 00:31:59,150
Just like when I was
10 years old.
You're ready.
907
00:31:59,217 --> 00:32:02,186
And you're awesome,
and you're a Bell.
908
00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:03,521
You got this.
909
00:32:03,588 --> 00:32:05,890
I'm my mother's son.
You're your mother's son.
910
00:32:08,626 --> 00:32:10,061
Narrator: Next up is a way
911
00:32:10,128 --> 00:32:13,498
to make exercising
a fun social activity.
912
00:32:13,564 --> 00:32:21,372
♪♪
913
00:32:21,439 --> 00:32:23,541
Hi, Sharks.
My name is Destin George Bell.
914
00:32:23,608 --> 00:32:25,510
I'm from Austin, Texas.
915
00:32:25,576 --> 00:32:28,146
I'm the founder and CEO of
Card.io, a gamified fitness app,
916
00:32:28,212 --> 00:32:32,150
and I am seeking $150,000
for 5% of my company.
917
00:32:32,216 --> 00:32:34,953
Sharks,
cardio kind of sucks.
918
00:32:35,019 --> 00:32:37,188
Maybe you're
a treadmill guy or girl
919
00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:38,790
who doesn't love
running in place,
920
00:32:38,856 --> 00:32:40,491
staring out of a window
or at a wall
921
00:32:40,558 --> 00:32:42,627
while numbers tick up
on a display.
922
00:32:42,694 --> 00:32:44,228
Great time.
Hamster life.
923
00:32:44,295 --> 00:32:46,164
Or maybe the jump rope.
924
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:47,899
'Cause who doesn't love
jumping in place,
925
00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:50,301
staring at a wall,
looking semi-athletic,
926
00:32:50,368 --> 00:32:52,904
hopefully, as you sweat
for 5 or 10 minutes,
927
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:54,672
hoping you're burning
some calories.
928
00:32:54,739 --> 00:32:56,674
But today I am here
to do the impossible --
929
00:32:56,741 --> 00:32:59,610
make cardio suck
a whole lot less.
930
00:32:59,677 --> 00:33:01,512
And we're doing that
with Card.io,
931
00:33:01,579 --> 00:33:03,548
a gamified fitness app
turning your outdoor cardio
932
00:33:03,614 --> 00:33:05,283
into a giant game
of Turf War.
933
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:06,884
Let me show you
how that works.
934
00:33:06,951 --> 00:33:08,820
So, let's say you're
an athletic guy like Mark,
935
00:33:08,886 --> 00:33:10,822
and you decide you're
going to go for a run today.
936
00:33:10,888 --> 00:33:12,523
Now, of course, Mark
is going to do his 4 miles.
937
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:14,192
That's pretty easy
for the Cuban man.
938
00:33:14,258 --> 00:33:15,326
And as you finish,
you'll see
939
00:33:15,393 --> 00:33:16,694
the area of town
you ran through.
940
00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:18,963
But Lori, always wanting
to steal a deal, decides
941
00:33:19,030 --> 00:33:22,133
that she wants to run that same
exact area to show Mark up.
942
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,069
It's turning it into a giant
game of Turf War.
943
00:33:25,136 --> 00:33:27,138
Think Capture the Flag,
944
00:33:27,205 --> 00:33:28,539
but where the city streets,
neighborhood roads,
945
00:33:28,606 --> 00:33:30,375
and hiking trails are areas
946
00:33:30,441 --> 00:33:32,577
that you compete to claim
against other people
947
00:33:32,643 --> 00:33:34,412
in your city as a team.
948
00:33:34,479 --> 00:33:37,248
So, as you see here,
as Lori moves to this area,
949
00:33:37,315 --> 00:33:40,351
that'll actually go from
Card.io green to Shark Tank blue
950
00:33:40,418 --> 00:33:41,486
while tracking all of her stats.
951
00:33:41,552 --> 00:33:43,354
And as you move,
952
00:33:43,421 --> 00:33:45,356
you'll see that the "Shark Tank"
logo will actually start
953
00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:46,791
to move into the places
954
00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:48,693
that the Card.io team
used to have it.
955
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,229
Now, once Lori decides
to finish up her run,
956
00:33:51,295 --> 00:33:53,231
of course running
a little bit faster than Mark,
957
00:33:53,297 --> 00:33:55,133
she's going to finish up.
[ Laughter ]
958
00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:58,069
See all of her stats,
and then she'll end her route.
959
00:33:58,136 --> 00:34:00,104
That'll upload into our system.
960
00:34:00,171 --> 00:34:02,240
She'll be able to see tracker
for all the places and times
961
00:34:02,306 --> 00:34:03,841
that she's run.
Love that.
962
00:34:03,908 --> 00:34:05,676
Now let's flash back
to Mark.
963
00:34:05,743 --> 00:34:08,379
He'll see that "Shark Tank"
logo didn't used to be there.
964
00:34:08,446 --> 00:34:09,981
And he'll go to his phone
and say, "Wow,
965
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:12,350
Lori's stolen 109 blocks
from my team."
966
00:34:12,417 --> 00:34:14,118
He'll click on that,
967
00:34:14,185 --> 00:34:15,820
see the specific areas of town
that Lori went through,
968
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,155
how fast she went,
and to get it back --
969
00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:18,723
you guessed it --
970
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:20,358
he's going to have
to go out there
971
00:34:20,425 --> 00:34:21,659
and start hauling his butt
over that way.
972
00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:22,894
[ Laughs ]
973
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,029
Sharks, who wants
to get out of the pool
974
00:34:25,096 --> 00:34:27,565
and hit the streets with me
and the Card.io crew?
975
00:34:27,632 --> 00:34:30,435
So, how are you
navigating
976
00:34:30,501 --> 00:34:32,904
separating yourself
from other apps?
977
00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:34,472
That's where the gamification
comes in, right?
978
00:34:34,539 --> 00:34:35,540
Bell: Yeah.
I'm glad you asked that.
979
00:34:35,606 --> 00:34:37,041
So, with these other trackers,
980
00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:39,143
they are focused
on usually goal-oriented,
981
00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:41,612
performance-based running.
With our app,
982
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,615
we incorporate social
gamification and dynamism,
983
00:34:44,682 --> 00:34:46,217
where every time
you go out there,
984
00:34:46,284 --> 00:34:47,652
the map looks
a little bit different.
985
00:34:47,718 --> 00:34:49,554
It's just like a sports game.
986
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:51,556
Do I want to run the same route
I did before?
987
00:34:51,622 --> 00:34:53,291
I have a person on my team
who ran that route.
988
00:34:53,357 --> 00:34:54,892
Maybe I should go to
a different part of town.
989
00:34:54,959 --> 00:34:57,128
We got 22,000 users
in 70 countries,
990
00:34:57,195 --> 00:34:58,930
and we've had people tell us --
You do? Wow.
991
00:34:58,996 --> 00:35:01,699
We do. We have 22,000 users
in 70 countries.
992
00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:03,768
We have 14,000 active,
993
00:35:03,835 --> 00:35:05,770
400 run clubs that
have signed up their groups,
994
00:35:05,837 --> 00:35:07,672
and one corporate wellness pilot
with Oracle.
995
00:35:07,738 --> 00:35:09,173
John: Are those
free downloads?
996
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:10,675
What is the revenue model
after that?
997
00:35:10,741 --> 00:35:12,710
Yeah, so, freemium model.
We bring people in.
998
00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:14,145
Again, most of you didn't know
what I even meant by a turf war.
999
00:35:14,212 --> 00:35:15,546
So the thing is
we got to get them in,
1000
00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:16,914
get them to fall in love
with it.
1001
00:35:16,981 --> 00:35:18,583
The retention rates have shown
they have.
1002
00:35:18,649 --> 00:35:20,418
We have a 34%
day-30 retention.
1003
00:35:20,485 --> 00:35:22,553
Are those free downloads
or subscription, like...?
1004
00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:24,188
Just walk me
through this.
1005
00:35:24,255 --> 00:35:25,656
Yeah. Free downloads.
Free downloads.
22,000 free downloads.
1006
00:35:25,723 --> 00:35:26,891
And then
the premium subscriptions,
1007
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,226
which are where the revenue
comes from,
1008
00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:29,327
is from those groups.
1009
00:35:29,393 --> 00:35:30,862
Like I said,
it's a team-based game.
1010
00:35:30,928 --> 00:35:32,763
How much?
Those teams --
$25 a month.
1011
00:35:32,830 --> 00:35:36,000
We target run clubs with
organized dues and memberships.
1012
00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:37,602
What was your revenue
last month?
1013
00:35:37,668 --> 00:35:39,737
Last month, $4,000.
Okay.
1014
00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:41,906
So how are you going to
get that from $4,000
1015
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:43,207
to $400,000?
1016
00:35:43,274 --> 00:35:44,709
The biggest thing
right now
1017
00:35:44,775 --> 00:35:46,677
is opening the doors to
the places that we need to be.
1018
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:48,412
We have already partnered
with the San Francisco Marathon,
1019
00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:51,482
Austin Marathon, and the --
So, marathons.
1020
00:35:51,549 --> 00:35:52,917
When you say
partnership...
Yes.
1021
00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:54,952
...what does that entail?
1022
00:35:55,019 --> 00:35:56,587
These are run clubs
that are using it as a way
1023
00:35:56,654 --> 00:35:58,623
to engage and track data,
1024
00:35:58,689 --> 00:36:00,658
which is why we've incorporated
the ability to schedule events.
1025
00:36:00,725 --> 00:36:02,393
So you're able to schedule
and say, "Hey,
1026
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:04,395
we're going to go to run
at Peace Park at 7 p.m."
1027
00:36:04,462 --> 00:36:06,030
They have the ability
to have a team chat,
1028
00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:07,665
kudos for people to say,
"Hey, nice run."
1029
00:36:07,732 --> 00:36:09,066
Well, that's cool
right there, right?
1030
00:36:09,133 --> 00:36:10,234
Because -- Yeah.
Exactly.
1031
00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:11,469
How much have you raised so far?
1032
00:36:11,536 --> 00:36:13,771
Started the business
June 2022.
1033
00:36:13,838 --> 00:36:16,541
We have raised $470K
as of now.
1034
00:36:16,607 --> 00:36:20,044
Primarily, that was from
$150K in grants from Pokémon Go.
1035
00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:21,412
Greiner: Wow!
Nice.
1036
00:36:21,479 --> 00:36:23,614
So, basically,
I got this idea during COVID.
1037
00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:25,216
Like, I was broke as a joke.
1038
00:36:25,283 --> 00:36:27,785
I was living in my car
in Austin, Texas,
1039
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:29,153
trying to figure this out.
1040
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:31,355
I'm not an engineer.
I tried to teach myself how to.
1041
00:36:31,422 --> 00:36:32,590
Didn't work very well.
1042
00:36:32,657 --> 00:36:34,025
Wouldn't have looked
as nice as it did here.
1043
00:36:34,091 --> 00:36:36,627
So I started DM'ing engineers.
I DM'ed 400.
1044
00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:38,596
All of them said no,
but one of them
1045
00:36:38,663 --> 00:36:40,198
was a founding engineer
for Pokémon Go
1046
00:36:40,264 --> 00:36:42,033
and he loved my moxie.
1047
00:36:42,099 --> 00:36:44,569
He said, "I'm going to drop the
CEO of Pokémon Go's email here.
1048
00:36:44,635 --> 00:36:46,070
Do what you want with it.
1049
00:36:46,137 --> 00:36:47,171
I'm not allowed
to make an intro,
1050
00:36:47,238 --> 00:36:48,539
but I can give it to you.
1051
00:36:48,606 --> 00:36:50,441
Shoot your shot."
So I shot him an email.
1052
00:36:50,508 --> 00:36:53,144
This is May of 2021.
Two months later he responded.
1053
00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:54,278
Here's the funny part.
I got on a call.
1054
00:36:54,345 --> 00:36:55,780
He wasn't on it.
1055
00:36:55,846 --> 00:36:57,315
It was three
of his other people,
1056
00:36:57,381 --> 00:36:59,250
and they only took the call
because he made them take it.
1057
00:36:59,317 --> 00:37:00,585
Then they said no, but I said,
1058
00:37:00,651 --> 00:37:01,919
"Well, I know
you read them now."
1059
00:37:01,986 --> 00:37:05,022
So I sent them an email
every week
1060
00:37:05,089 --> 00:37:06,891
for the next three months
until eventually he said,
1061
00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:08,926
"Alright, kid, here's a 50K
grant, get out of my inbox
1062
00:37:08,993 --> 00:37:10,394
and keep working on it."
Whoo!
1063
00:37:10,461 --> 00:37:12,029
Love that.
Let me just tell you,
that's brilliant,
1064
00:37:12,096 --> 00:37:13,931
and I hate you because
now everybody out there
1065
00:37:13,998 --> 00:37:15,566
is going to send us
600 emails a week.
1066
00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:17,001
Greiner:
That is really amazing.
1067
00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:18,669
I always say
the dream is free
1068
00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:20,238
and the hustle's
sold separately.
1069
00:37:20,304 --> 00:37:21,706
Love it.
Right?
1070
00:37:21,772 --> 00:37:23,541
The only problem
that I have here
1071
00:37:23,608 --> 00:37:25,276
is that there are
two things
1072
00:37:25,343 --> 00:37:27,612
that are not in my wheelhouse
at all --
1073
00:37:27,678 --> 00:37:29,580
running and gaming.
1074
00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:32,016
I would not bring enough benefit
to what you're doing.
1075
00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:33,551
So I'm sorry.
I'm out.
1076
00:37:33,618 --> 00:37:34,919
That's alright.
Thank you, Lori.
1077
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:37,421
By the way, my mom says
you're her favorite.
1078
00:37:37,488 --> 00:37:39,123
Aw, tell your mom I love her.
But you're all
her second favorite.
1079
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:40,625
You're all second
favorite.
1080
00:37:40,691 --> 00:37:42,693
How did you come up with
the $3 million valuation?
1081
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,829
150K, 5%.
1082
00:37:44,895 --> 00:37:46,597
I got that valuation
from the fact
1083
00:37:46,664 --> 00:37:48,332
that investors wrote us
those same terms
1084
00:37:48,399 --> 00:37:50,334
that we've raised on currently
as of last month.
1085
00:37:50,401 --> 00:37:52,970
But more importantly,
I'm projecting the future
1086
00:37:53,037 --> 00:37:54,038
of where
we're going to be.
1087
00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:55,539
The thing you're buying today
1088
00:37:55,606 --> 00:37:57,541
is not going to be worth
what it's worth today forever.
1089
00:37:57,608 --> 00:38:00,344
Everybody that's ever stood
there said the same thing.
1090
00:38:00,411 --> 00:38:02,647
And some of them were right.
And I think I'm one of them.
1091
00:38:02,713 --> 00:38:03,881
That's a good answer.
1092
00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:04,915
That's true.
1093
00:38:04,982 --> 00:38:06,250
Destin
going for the kill.
1094
00:38:06,317 --> 00:38:07,385
It's not a deal for me.
It's not a deal for me.
1095
00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:09,086
Your 4K is...
1096
00:38:09,153 --> 00:38:11,088
It's the beginning
of proof of concept.
1097
00:38:11,155 --> 00:38:12,657
I don't think there's
enough data
1098
00:38:12,723 --> 00:38:14,225
for me to pull the trigger
on this.
1099
00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:16,827
Interesting presentation.
I'm out.
1100
00:38:16,894 --> 00:38:18,963
The problem
with this kind of business is
1101
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:20,498
you are always
stressed
1102
00:38:20,564 --> 00:38:22,800
because if you don't
have critical mass,
1103
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,068
the whole thing
doesn't work.
1104
00:38:24,135 --> 00:38:25,903
Bell: But the thing is,
the critical mass
1105
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:27,705
is created through
the team signing up.
1106
00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:29,440
It's not about competing
against other teams.
1107
00:38:29,507 --> 00:38:30,875
It's I have a group of people
1108
00:38:30,941 --> 00:38:32,109
and those people
are all running.
1109
00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:33,244
No, I get that, right?
Right.
1110
00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:34,879
But you've got to keep
enough teams,
1111
00:38:34,945 --> 00:38:36,547
or everybody thinks
there's no app.
1112
00:38:36,614 --> 00:38:38,482
Right?
Or that it doesn't work.
1113
00:38:38,549 --> 00:38:40,251
But I just don't know
how I can help you scale that.
1114
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,119
Right? I just don't see it
as a fit for me, my guy.
1115
00:38:42,186 --> 00:38:44,655
I'm sorry.
So, for those reasons, I'm out.
1116
00:38:44,722 --> 00:38:46,724
Alright. Thanks, Mark.
Appreciate you, man.
1117
00:38:46,791 --> 00:38:49,493
What is really driving you
to be successful right now?
1118
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,995
What is that thing
that's inside of you
1119
00:38:51,062 --> 00:38:53,064
that's really pushing you?
1120
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:56,567
My mom is out there
right now.
1121
00:38:56,634 --> 00:38:58,536
I used to have a really bad lisp
and a stutter,
1122
00:38:58,602 --> 00:39:00,171
and I was a bad public speaker.
1123
00:39:00,237 --> 00:39:01,839
When I was 10 years old,
1124
00:39:01,906 --> 00:39:02,973
I was watching this show
1125
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,575
before you were even on it,
Mark.
1126
00:39:04,642 --> 00:39:06,277
And my mom said,
"I want you to watch this show
1127
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:07,978
and see how people present."
1128
00:39:08,045 --> 00:39:10,181
And I watched it like
every Friday and Sunday
1129
00:39:10,247 --> 00:39:12,249
for like the first --
from like 10 to 16.
1130
00:39:12,316 --> 00:39:15,086
At 16 is when I first really
started getting into business
1131
00:39:15,152 --> 00:39:16,354
and I told my mom,
1132
00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:17,955
"We're going to be on this show
one day, Mom,
1133
00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:19,690
and I'm going to bring you."
1134
00:39:19,757 --> 00:39:20,858
She's back there waiting
for me to give her a deal.
1135
00:39:20,925 --> 00:39:22,259
I love that.
I love that.
1136
00:39:22,326 --> 00:39:23,627
And I'm creating
generational wealth
1137
00:39:23,694 --> 00:39:24,895
and I want my kids
to have something.
1138
00:39:24,962 --> 00:39:26,897
So I'm here to do that.
1139
00:39:26,964 --> 00:39:28,666
And I told my mom I would
walk out of here with a deal.
1140
00:39:28,733 --> 00:39:29,900
So what do you want from me,
Rashaun?
1141
00:39:29,967 --> 00:39:30,935
[ Laughs ]
Ooh!
1142
00:39:31,001 --> 00:39:33,137
So, I want to go in
with Daymond
1143
00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:35,940
because I think you're
a great salesperson,
1144
00:39:36,006 --> 00:39:38,376
and I think you could become
a good businessperson.
1145
00:39:38,442 --> 00:39:40,444
I think you need mentors.
You need strategy.
1146
00:39:40,511 --> 00:39:42,246
You need access
to capital.
1147
00:39:42,313 --> 00:39:43,881
And I've done over 100
software investments.
1148
00:39:43,948 --> 00:39:45,216
That's just
kind of my thing.
1149
00:39:45,282 --> 00:39:46,851
And I really enjoy
doing it.
1150
00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:48,619
And I enjoy mentoring
young founders,
1151
00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:50,321
especially guys
that remind me of myself,
1152
00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:51,856
that have that grit.
1153
00:39:51,922 --> 00:39:53,457
I gotta be a part of this,
1154
00:39:53,524 --> 00:39:55,459
and I don't care
how I'm part of this.
1155
00:39:55,526 --> 00:39:56,961
And I love your energy.
1156
00:39:57,027 --> 00:39:59,163
I did the same thing.
I just did it with a phone.
1157
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:02,032
You know, 40 years ago, I made
50 calls a day for six months
1158
00:40:02,099 --> 00:40:04,802
until people picked up, and
the first half of them said no.
1159
00:40:04,869 --> 00:40:06,771
And, you know,
three months later they said,
1160
00:40:06,837 --> 00:40:08,739
"You're not going anywhere?"
And I said nope.
1161
00:40:08,806 --> 00:40:10,274
And then they started
to write checks
1162
00:40:10,341 --> 00:40:12,009
or recommend me
to go other places.
1163
00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:14,044
So I love that.
1164
00:40:14,111 --> 00:40:15,880
So, one plus one equals five
in this situation here.
1165
00:40:15,946 --> 00:40:17,314
Now, keep that in mind.
Okay.
1166
00:40:17,381 --> 00:40:18,682
$150,000.
1167
00:40:18,749 --> 00:40:21,185
But we need 15%.
1168
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:24,255
[ Exhales sharply ]
Okay.
1169
00:40:24,321 --> 00:40:26,123
Why are you waiting?
1170
00:40:29,827 --> 00:40:31,762
How would you feel
about 10%?
1171
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:33,431
No, Destin!
[ Laughter ]
1172
00:40:33,497 --> 00:40:34,498
I love it, though.
1173
00:40:34,565 --> 00:40:35,966
I love the guy.
1174
00:40:36,033 --> 00:40:37,067
No.
Destin, come on, man.
1175
00:40:37,134 --> 00:40:38,536
No, but I love
the guy's hustle.
1176
00:40:38,602 --> 00:40:40,671
I love it.
1177
00:40:40,738 --> 00:40:43,240
So I'm going to repeat,
15% for $150,000.
1178
00:40:43,307 --> 00:40:44,642
And you're going to get
10 more things
1179
00:40:44,708 --> 00:40:45,943
'cause you're going to get
Daymond and I as partners.
1180
00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:47,178
By the way, I can hear
your mother screaming,
1181
00:40:47,244 --> 00:40:48,245
"Take the deal, bozo!"
1182
00:40:48,312 --> 00:40:50,214
Yes, I can too.
Take the deal.
1183
00:40:52,983 --> 00:40:56,253
I have one question
to ask you, alright?
1184
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,522
And I don't want the deal
to be gone if I ask it.
1185
00:40:58,589 --> 00:41:00,658
Can I go talk to my mom?
1186
00:41:00,724 --> 00:41:02,393
I think you should bring
your mom out.
1187
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:03,961
-Bring her out!
-Think she needs
to hear the story.
1188
00:41:04,028 --> 00:41:05,062
-Can I go get her?
-Yeah!
1189
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:06,363
I'm gonna go get my mom.
I guarantee,
1190
00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:07,765
she's gonna say
take the deal.
1191
00:41:07,832 --> 00:41:09,233
Mom, come here, come here,
come here, come here.
1192
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,901
Aw, I love
this guy, man.
1193
00:41:10,968 --> 00:41:12,303
Come on, come on.
Come on.
Hey, Mom.
1194
00:41:12,369 --> 00:41:14,205
She's actually my sister.
[ Laughter ]
1195
00:41:14,271 --> 00:41:15,473
-Clearly.
-Hey, Mom.
1196
00:41:15,539 --> 00:41:16,607
Mom, you heard all that,
right?
1197
00:41:16,674 --> 00:41:17,975
Greiner: Hi, Mom!
I did.
1198
00:41:18,042 --> 00:41:19,977
What do you think?
You're right.
1199
00:41:20,044 --> 00:41:21,846
I was back there saying,
"Boy, let's do the deal."
1200
00:41:21,912 --> 00:41:23,347
[ Laughter ]
1201
00:41:23,414 --> 00:41:27,184
Mom, talk some sense
into your son.
1202
00:41:27,251 --> 00:41:29,019
Let's do the deal.
1203
00:41:29,086 --> 00:41:31,355
Rashaun, Daymond,
you got a deal.
1204
00:41:31,422 --> 00:41:33,624
[ Cheers and applause ]
1205
00:41:33,691 --> 00:41:36,961
Let's go.
Congratulations.
1206
00:41:37,027 --> 00:41:39,563
[ All exclaiming ]
1207
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:41,966
How are you?
This is
a beautiful suit.
1208
00:41:42,032 --> 00:41:43,667
-Congratulations, man.
-What's up, Mom?
1209
00:41:43,734 --> 00:41:44,802
So nice to meet you.
1210
00:41:44,869 --> 00:41:47,171
You have that focus, man.
I love you, man.
1211
00:41:47,238 --> 00:41:48,506
I came here on a mission.
I know you did.
1212
00:41:48,572 --> 00:41:49,673
And I always accomplish
my mission.
1213
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:50,774
I know you did, man.
1214
00:41:52,843 --> 00:41:53,777
[ Laughs ]
Come on, man.
1215
00:41:53,844 --> 00:41:54,845
Congratulations.
1216
00:41:54,912 --> 00:41:56,413
Thank you so much!
1217
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,648
Great job, great job.
Great job.
1218
00:41:57,715 --> 00:41:58,849
I told you, Ma!
1219
00:41:58,916 --> 00:42:00,484
I told you, I'm a man
of my word.
1220
00:42:00,551 --> 00:42:02,753
I'ma stand on business
every time, man.
1221
00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:05,222
Every time.
10 years in the making, baby.
1222
00:42:05,289 --> 00:42:07,892
I planned it.
16 years old, I planned this.
1223
00:42:07,958 --> 00:42:09,627
Oh, my gosh.
1224
00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:11,161
Good one, man.
1225
00:42:11,228 --> 00:42:12,162
I like that kid.
Cuban:
That kid's awesome.
1226
00:42:12,229 --> 00:42:13,264
He's not playing.
1227
00:42:15,332 --> 00:42:15,366
Na
1228
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:15,399
Narr
1229
00:42:15,399 --> 00:42:15,432
Narrat
1230
00:42:15,432 --> 00:42:15,466
Narrator
1231
00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:15,633
Narrator:
1232
00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:15,666
Narrator:
Ne
1233
00:42:15,666 --> 00:42:15,699
Narrator:
Next
1234
00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:15,733
Narrator:
Next t
1235
00:42:15,733 --> 00:42:15,766
Narrator:
Next tim
1236
00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:15,799
Narrator:
Next time
1237
00:42:15,799 --> 00:42:15,833
Narrator:
Next time on
1238
00:42:15,833 --> 00:42:15,866
Narrator:
Next time on "
1239
00:42:15,866 --> 00:42:15,900
Narrator:
Next time on "Sh
1240
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:15,933
Narrator:
Next time on "Shar
1241
00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:15,966
Narrator:
Next time on "Shark
1242
00:42:15,966 --> 00:42:16,000
Narrator:
Next time on "Shark Ta
1243
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,033
Narrator:
Next time on "Shark Tank
1244
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:16,700
Narrator:
Next time on "Shark Tank,"
1245
00:42:16,767 --> 00:42:18,168
Todd Graves, the founder
1246
00:42:18,235 --> 00:42:20,871
of fast-dining phenomenon
Raising Cane's, joins the Tank.
1247
00:42:20,938 --> 00:42:24,275
I love that entrepreneurial
drive, and I live it every day.
1248
00:42:24,341 --> 00:42:28,312
It's an addicting feeling
you crave over and over again.
1249
00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:31,048
You will have
a mouthwatering feast.
1250
00:42:31,115 --> 00:42:32,383
Let's eat.
We need your help
1251
00:42:32,449 --> 00:42:34,118
bringing our innovative products
to more customers.
1252
00:42:34,184 --> 00:42:36,020
Little Mr. Wonderful
here's saying, "Do the deal,"
1253
00:42:36,086 --> 00:42:37,555
and the other guy says,
"What are you, an idiot?"
1254
00:42:37,621 --> 00:42:39,023
Boy,
you're a little frisky.
1255
00:42:39,089 --> 00:42:40,357
One of the most innovative
things I've seen in my life.
1256
00:42:40,424 --> 00:42:41,559
I'm ready
to go to the moon.
1257
00:42:41,625 --> 00:42:43,294
Bring the sales.
Now you're the Sharks.
1258
00:42:46,196 --> 00:42:49,199
-- Captions by VITAC --
1259
00:42:49,266 --> 00:42:57,207
♪♪
1260
00:42:57,274 --> 00:43:05,683
♪♪
1261
00:43:05,749 --> 00:43:14,725
♪♪
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