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I've been around the boxing world
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for a long time,
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as an agent
and then a filmmaker.
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And I've told a lot
of stories about the sport
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and its great characters.
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- Hello, how are you?
- Hi.
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Okay, sweetheart.
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Out of all
the fighters I've known,
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none were as unforgettable
as Hector "Macho" Camacho.
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He was seven years... seven years.
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He was a little boy.
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"Mommy, I'm going
to be boxer, Mommy.
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"You'll have everything,
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"I'm going to buy you
everything, Mommy.
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"I'm going to buy you a house,
I'm going to buy a car,
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and you are going
to be special."
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I said, "Oh no, my son
not gonna be boxing.
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Oh no, you touch my son,
I'll kill you."
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Let's go.
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He was a very good son.
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Everything I asked him,
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"Don't worry, Mommy. I got you.
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I got you, Mommy."
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Anything I need,
Macho was there.
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Introducing in the blue corner,
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fighting out of
New York City, New York,
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ladies and gentlemen,
here is the very colorful
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Hector "Macho" Camacho!
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He looks like a young child,
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he's bubbly, he smiles a lot,
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and he'll knock your head off
if you're not careful.
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Macho was the kind of boxer
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you never wanted to miss fight.
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I don't think I've seen such a bundle
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of energy and talent
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and sheer nerves
since Muhammad Ali.
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He was the kind of star
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who never seemed
to run out of surprises.
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Hector -And I'm pound
for pound, the best...
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I'm the best fighter pound
for pound in the world!
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Bring 'em on!
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Bring 'em on! Bring 'em on!
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He was a tremendous fighter.
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Tremendous talent.
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He's just truly amazing.
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He seems to have it all.
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And he has the flair
for the dramatic.
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He was a pioneer.
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Are you gonna
wear the same thing
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into the ring again?
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Come on, man.
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It's never the same thing.
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Never the same thing.
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But boxing sometimes can be
too damn Shakespearean.
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It's got its beautiful stories,
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but it's got its share
of sad ones, too.
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Hector's mother, Maria!
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Here from New York.
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You take a kid like this
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that comes from
where he came from,
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and he gets to
the pinnacle of success
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in a tough world.
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One of the toughest
businesses there are.
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Fighting!
And he gets to the top.
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And then they go over!
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Hector Camacho!
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But at the end,
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it's almost like
the tragedy had to be.
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It's too bad.
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Hector "Macho" Camacho
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passed away this morning
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at a hospital in Puerto Rico.
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Camacho and a friend were shot
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earlier this week
as they sat in a car
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outside a liquor store.
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The gunman got away,
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and the motive is not known.
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Hector "Macho" Camacho
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was 50 years old.
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Seven years are gone already.
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They killed my baby.
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They no find nobody
who killed Macho.
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Who killed Macho?
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Who killed my son?
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Like boxing itself,
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the story of Hector Camacho
isn't simple.
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But to understand the confusion
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around his death,
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you need to first understand
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the improbability of his life.
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In aviation, we're taught that there are
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a chain of events
that create an accident.
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The bullet that killed Macho
in Puerto Rico...
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started its journey
many years ago.
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I came from the street.
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I had all my hopes in it
from head to toe.
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I got my mother a house.
I got cars forever.
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Well known, well loved.
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I'm making it for the people
that never made it.
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I'm making it for people
that ain't gonna make it.
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Macho time!
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Will you say
to me, ten years from now,
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- it's worth the risk?
- It's worth the risk.
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Every bit of it.
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In the 1970s and '80s,
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the center
of the boxing universe
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was West 33rd Street,
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between 7th and 8th Avenues
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in New York City,
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Madison Square Garden.
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-And here we go.
Paul DeVorce in the gold,
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Hector Camacho in the blue,
118 pound open.
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And for any aspiring fighter,
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there was no tougher
baptism by fire
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than the Golden Gloves
Championships.
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Macho does not
stand in one place too long.
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Goes in, takes a shot,
and gets out of there.
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Randy -I used to go
to all the Golden Glove fights.
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And I saw this kid,
this speedy little kid,
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and I'm like,
"Oh my God, who is this?"
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And the more he fought,
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the more I fell
in love with him.
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Macho's a smart fighter.
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He was a southpaw,
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which gave him an advantage.
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Left hand by Camacho.
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But his hand speed
was fantastic.
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So, right away, I sensed
this was a special kid.
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That's it.
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That's the end of the bout.
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The 118 pound open champion,
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Camacho!
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Hector Camacho from Spanish Harlem.
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Spanish Harlem
is about 80 blocks north
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of Madison Square Garden.
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Its history as the center
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of New York's
Puerto Rican population
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dates back to
the 1940s and '50s,
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when people from the island
brought their music,
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their food,
and their infectious energy
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to carve out a neighborhood
bursting with life.
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We came from Puerto Rico
straight to New York.
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I was five, Hector was four.
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We were close,
brothers and sisters
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raised in The Projects.
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We used to do a lot
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of crazy things in the house,
play around or play karate.
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That was Macho's favorite,
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karate, 'cause Bruce Lee
was his idol.
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He used to break
my mother's broom and mop
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to make.
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You know, karate?
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We didn't have no broom 'cause
that's what he used to do.
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He like, he likes to fight.
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That was his stuff,
he used to like to fight.
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People used
to call me Little Man
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around the street.
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I was always looking
for excitement to fight
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and all of us in the boys club,
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trying to beat
on bigger kids, you know,
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just to get a reputation
of a fighter.
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I always saw him after school
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'cause he always had
a fight after school.
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There was somebody that
was getting beat up
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at three o'clock
in the school parking lot.
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Weren't you expelled from school,
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- like, a couple times?
- -I wasn't expelled.
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Expelled is not the word.
I was thrown out.
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I was thrown out of six schools.
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I was, uh, I visited
six psychiatrists,
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and they never found
nothing crazy in me.
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Hector drove us crazy.
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Hector was a smaller kid.
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I remember an incident, one
of the other seventh graders,
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who was a bigger kid,
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made the mistake
of wanting to take him on.
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Hector just...
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Pow, pow, pow, pow. Hit the guy,
then stamp him with my feet.
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We, we in a fight. We in war.
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He's trying to hurt me.
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He gave me a lot
of trouble in school.
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Every day I had to put my boots,
my coat, I run to the office.
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Who got in the office?
Macho fighting in the school.
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But really,
though, I wasn't really
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a bad kind of guy,
like I want to hurt people.
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It was everything just
adventurous, you know.
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Mischief,
anything that he can get into,
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but he would turn it
into something
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where you would laugh.
You never angry at him.
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One night, he showed up,
he was driving a car.
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He said, "Come on,
let's go for a ride."
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Only to find out we went
to White Castle in the Bronx,
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had a great evening. I said,
"Bro, whose car?"
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He go like, "I just
stole it for the night, Rocko.
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I'll call you tomorrow."
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I just spent two hours
in a stolen car with you?
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When he was sixteen,
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Hector got caught stealing
one of those cars
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and served time
on Rikers Island.
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And when he got back home,
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it soon became clear
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that stealing cars
was not his only problem.
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He was around 17 years.
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And one time, I took him
in bathroom,
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he said, "Mommy, I'm going
to the bathroom.
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I'm going to do something.
Please don't knock the door."
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I said, "What you going to do?"
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That was the first time
I catch him.
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"What you going to do?
You're going to use drugs?
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"You're going to push
something in your skin
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or something, Macho?"
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"No, Mommy. No, Mommy!
No." "Okay.
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Hey, you all right, there?"
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"Yes, Mom! Yes, Mommy."
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I said, "What?
You doing something.
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"You got cold or something,
your nose?
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Give me that."
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Fwah! Fwah!
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Flush the toilet,
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it went down
to the toilet, he said,
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"There go my money, Mommy.
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You know how much that cost?"
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"I don't care how much.
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Your life cost more than that."
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So, my mother told him,
you got to stop.
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You got to do something.
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That's when he began
to go, you know,
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started going to the gym.
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Jefferson Plaza was
the only sense of recreation
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that we had.
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And we always went there
just for the girls.
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And in there, they had a,
they had a gym,
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and that was the first time
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that we all got
a taste of the boxing.
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And the one that attached
the most to it was Camacho.
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Camacho made
a decision that summer
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that he was gonna
get into boxing.
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Here's Camacho when he was,
uh, doing the lightweight,
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and I made him
North American champion.
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We were about to turn him pro.
He wasn't pro yet.
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I first met Camacho
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when he was about 12,
13 years old.
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He's asking me
different questions.
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I used to show him
little things.
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He was persistent. He kept
asking me over and over,
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how you do this?
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He showed me that
he had not only heart,
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that he was daring.
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I seen that when he was
a kid that he liked to fight.
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He was always in fights:
street fights, alley fights,
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gang fights, school fights,
family fights,
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just fights to be fighting,
that's all, you know.
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It's in him. You know,
it's like Michelangelo
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was born to paint pictures.
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Hector Camacho was born
to knock guys out.
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He was a teenager.
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Wild.
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Undisciplined.
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And I had discipline.
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I knew what he had.
I got it out of him.
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He actually put all his energy
and everything
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that he knew
264
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used to get in trouble
when he was a young kid
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and put it to work for him.
266
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I started really working with him.
267
00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:24,827
I actually showed him
how to piv,
268
00:12:24,869 --> 00:12:26,704
how to side step,
and how to dip.
269
00:12:26,746 --> 00:12:28,790
Do you know who his hero was?
270
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Bruce Lee.
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Wasn't no boxer.
It was Bruce Lee.
272
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I was always
the biggest Bruce Lee fanatic,
273
00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:38,341
and that's where
my style comes in.
274
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A lot of defense,
a lot of movement.
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God gave him everything
he was supposed to have
276
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as far as I feel.
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Fast, smart.
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Tell him something,
he could see the picture.
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Strong, determined, and hungry.
280
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He had a gift,
281
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and it was recognized early.
282
00:12:56,943 --> 00:13:00,321
I saw something in him
that others didn't believe.
283
00:13:00,363 --> 00:13:03,032
They felt he was
gonna amount to nothing.
284
00:13:03,074 --> 00:13:05,576
I took time in teaching him.
285
00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:07,745
I would rough him,
I would yell at him.
286
00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:11,415
Would talk like
big brother or father.
287
00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:13,709
'Cause he really
didn't have a father.
288
00:13:22,134 --> 00:13:25,596
I used to live there
in the fifth floor.
289
00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:28,307
When I came around,
I was nine years old.
290
00:13:28,724 --> 00:13:30,268
Yeah. Then I went
to Puerto Rico.
291
00:13:30,309 --> 00:13:32,812
That's where I meet,
uh, Macho's father.
292
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I get married over there,
everything. Yes.
293
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I married him when I was 14
294
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and he was 17.
295
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Eh! You young, you know.
296
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He was a drinking mate.
He used to drink a lot.
297
00:13:48,619 --> 00:13:52,039
And Macho said, "Mommy, why
you marry a man like that?"
298
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I said, "That's your father."
299
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Ohh!
300
00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,339
"You's a good mother,
you's a good woman,
301
00:14:00,381 --> 00:14:01,883
why you marry a man like that?"
302
00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:04,468
I said, "I don't know.
I was crazy."
303
00:14:04,886 --> 00:14:06,262
I did not think.
304
00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,307
He was abusive.
305
00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:12,518
We used to see him beating
on her, when we were small,
306
00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:15,396
we'd come out to the windows,
the fire escapes.
307
00:14:15,438 --> 00:14:17,815
My mother used to put us
under the bed.
308
00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:19,442
Me and Macho saw a lot.
309
00:14:19,483 --> 00:14:21,235
We had to see her
all bruised up.
310
00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:24,447
He used to come home drunk,
beat on her.
311
00:14:24,488 --> 00:14:28,451
And my mother used to be
moving to different places
312
00:14:28,492 --> 00:14:30,786
just to try
to stay away from him.
313
00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:33,915
We used to see
my mother struggle.
314
00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:35,708
Five o'clock in the morning
on the welfare,
315
00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:37,251
standing on line.
316
00:14:38,336 --> 00:14:41,088
We went cold, no lights.
317
00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:43,591
She struggled with us, uh, so...
318
00:14:45,134 --> 00:14:46,719
He never really discussed that,
319
00:14:46,761 --> 00:14:49,597
but I know it affected him
and wanted him to provide
320
00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:53,184
'cause he, he wanted to be
the man of the house, of course.
321
00:14:53,225 --> 00:14:56,103
He took it upon himself
to do that at an early age.
322
00:14:56,145 --> 00:14:59,398
He didn't have no education
323
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,192
nor did he have a trade.
324
00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:03,152
Boxing was a way out for him.
325
00:15:03,194 --> 00:15:06,614
And that's why
he took boxing serious.
326
00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:09,158
You know, through the amateurs
327
00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,744
everywhere we went,
we was winning.
328
00:15:11,786 --> 00:15:13,162
I always prove people wrong.
329
00:15:13,204 --> 00:15:15,164
They never thought I was
going to come this far.
330
00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:17,625
Kid Glove,
Junior Olympic champion,
331
00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,586
Empire State Games,
Golden Gloves.
332
00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:22,713
Every fight
I ain't supposed to win.
333
00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,508
"You gonna be alright.
You gonna bypass 'em all."
334
00:15:25,549 --> 00:15:27,301
And he did.
335
00:15:27,343 --> 00:15:28,970
Hector was an impressive
336
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96 and four as an amateur.
337
00:15:31,138 --> 00:15:34,058
And the next step
was turning pro in 1980.
338
00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:37,019
He hails from Spanish Harlem,
339
00:15:37,061 --> 00:15:39,355
Hector Camacho.
340
00:15:43,192 --> 00:15:45,486
Figueroa covering up.
341
00:15:45,528 --> 00:15:47,697
I don't think he's gonna get up.
342
00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:51,551
First 10 fights was like
343
00:15:51,575 --> 00:15:52,576
first round knockouts.
344
00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:54,286
Then you know he's
a promising champ.
345
00:15:54,328 --> 00:15:55,621
The fight is over.
346
00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:57,331
Girls would be
screaming all the time.
347
00:15:57,373 --> 00:15:58,624
Yay! Yay!
348
00:15:58,666 --> 00:16:00,167
Hey, Little Man!
349
00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:02,270
But then after that,
he changed his whole thing.
350
00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:06,882
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
351
00:16:06,924 --> 00:16:09,427
And Camacho, wherever he was,
352
00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:13,514
just drew a large crowd,
and he was very flashy.
353
00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:19,204
There was
something about Camacho
354
00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:21,272
that made you look at him.
355
00:16:22,648 --> 00:16:25,526
And it wasn't just the flash.
It was the boxing ability, too.
356
00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:27,862
Moving. Moving.
Doing the footwork,
357
00:16:27,903 --> 00:16:29,864
you know, doing the fakes.
358
00:16:31,323 --> 00:16:34,118
Here, I spin you,
359
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,745
I could push you off balance.
360
00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:37,997
This upper cut is coming.
361
00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,417
Again, again, you continue,
you don't stop.
362
00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:44,420
Spin the guy. Crack him.
363
00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:47,048
He had a jab, here's a jab.
364
00:16:47,089 --> 00:16:48,984
You turn it over, right?
That's a conventional jab.
365
00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:51,510
You turn it over, you protect
your chin into your shoulder,
366
00:16:51,552 --> 00:16:53,554
and you bring it back
on a straight line, right?
367
00:16:53,596 --> 00:16:56,223
That's a jab. Pow!
He didn't do this.
368
00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:58,809
That took a tenth
of a second longer.
369
00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,561
He did this. Pow!
370
00:17:00,603 --> 00:17:01,812
That was why he got it there
371
00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:03,397
so straight and so quick.
372
00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:04,940
Pow!
373
00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:07,610
He invented his own jab.
374
00:17:07,651 --> 00:17:09,320
I call it the Trip Hammer.
375
00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:12,073
In the early '80s,
376
00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:13,949
it was a fantastic time
in boxing.
377
00:17:13,991 --> 00:17:16,118
You had so many superstars.
378
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,912
You had Larry Holmes,
Ray Leonard,
379
00:17:17,953 --> 00:17:19,246
Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler,
380
00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:20,623
Salvador Sanchez,
Wilfredo Gomez.
381
00:17:20,664 --> 00:17:23,084
Camacho was a little different
from all of them.
382
00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:27,254
And CBS Television
was smart enough, very early,
383
00:17:27,296 --> 00:17:30,508
to realize we're, we're hitching
our star to this kid.
384
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:32,843
Well, Tim, now
that Sugar Ray here is retired,
385
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:34,929
I think that Hector Camacho
could become
386
00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:36,806
the new Mr. Excitement
of boxing.
387
00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:37,932
He seems to have it all.
388
00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:39,975
He made himself known.
389
00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:42,353
He was a colorful guy
right from the start.
390
00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:44,271
He just kind of captivated us.
391
00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:49,985
And we were starting to become
really the boxing network.
392
00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:53,155
So he became
one of our star guys.
393
00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:55,783
Hector "Macho" Camacho
394
00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:57,701
and John Montes Jr.
395
00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:59,537
An important
lightweight bout of course
396
00:17:59,578 --> 00:18:02,540
for Camacho en route
to what he hopes will be
397
00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:03,958
a title shot at the 130 pound...
398
00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,168
Someone thought of a great idea,
399
00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:08,295
and the next thing you know,
we had bought a fight
400
00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:11,924
against John Montes
in the state of Alaska.
401
00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:15,970
Alaska. Even the sound of it
402
00:18:16,011 --> 00:18:17,596
holds a certain mystery.
403
00:18:17,638 --> 00:18:19,640
The look of it is bewitching.
404
00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:20,808
Jagged mountain peaks
405
00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:23,435
and snow-quilted tundra
teeming with wildlife...
406
00:18:23,477 --> 00:18:24,645
All the way in Alaska,
407
00:18:24,687 --> 00:18:26,564
which has never
been fought before.
408
00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:28,357
"Eddie, you're killing me,
me go to Alaska,
409
00:18:28,399 --> 00:18:29,459
"a kid from Spanish Harlem?
410
00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:31,318
The hell am I gonna
do in Alaska?"
411
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,864
CBS Prime Time channel two.
And I'm like, wow.
412
00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:37,283
And he's like
a big kid, you know.
413
00:18:37,324 --> 00:18:38,951
He's jumping up and down,
"We in Alaska!
414
00:18:38,993 --> 00:18:40,703
We in Alaska! We in Alaska."
415
00:18:40,744 --> 00:18:42,055
And I was like, "Okay,
okay, okay."
416
00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:44,373
You have to be the first
Puerto Rican-born fighter
417
00:18:44,415 --> 00:18:46,250
to ever become a musher.
What was it like?
418
00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:48,878
Oh, it was good.
It was like driving a Cadillac.
419
00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:51,839
There was always
something about Hector
420
00:18:51,881 --> 00:18:52,882
that was a lot of fun.
421
00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:54,192
You were always happy
to see him.
422
00:18:54,216 --> 00:18:55,593
Did you give the dogs names,
423
00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:57,195
or did you find out
what their names were?
424
00:18:57,219 --> 00:18:59,221
No. All I was going
is mush, mush!
425
00:19:00,347 --> 00:19:02,224
He was hard not to like.
426
00:19:04,476 --> 00:19:07,104
But before the night
of the fight,
427
00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,523
we got a call in our hotel
428
00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:13,319
and one of his handlers,
in great stress said,
429
00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,671
"You know, you've got to
come over here."
430
00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:15,714
"Well, get him on the phone."
431
00:19:15,738 --> 00:19:17,573
He's trying to
jump out a window.
432
00:19:18,449 --> 00:19:22,453
And he was completely
out of his mind, drug wise.
433
00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:24,371
You know, talked him
out of it, calmed down,
434
00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,624
and I got him out of the danger.
435
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:29,210
Then the concern was
436
00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:30,520
"How's he going to be
fight time?"
437
00:19:30,544 --> 00:19:36,258
Hector "Macho" Camacho!
438
00:19:39,261 --> 00:19:40,488
Dan, this is by far
439
00:19:40,512 --> 00:19:41,573
the most dangerous opponent
440
00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:43,807
that Camacho has faced.
441
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,185
And the next day,
442
00:19:46,227 --> 00:19:47,996
you wouldn't have known
anything had happened.
443
00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:49,780
Camacho told me
he was going to go right out
444
00:19:49,813 --> 00:19:51,273
and jump on him
in the first round.
445
00:19:51,315 --> 00:19:52,483
Let's see if he does it.
446
00:19:52,524 --> 00:19:53,835
There was domination there.
447
00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:55,212
He threw the punches
he wanted to throw,
448
00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:57,196
moved the way he wanted to move
449
00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:59,615
and did what he wanted to do.
450
00:19:59,657 --> 00:20:01,742
Oh, solid left uppercut
451
00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:03,535
and down goes Montes.
452
00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,079
He is in trouble.
453
00:20:06,121 --> 00:20:07,915
And it is all over.
454
00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:09,083
Hector "Macho" Camacho!
455
00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:13,087
A startling
first round knockout.
456
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,217
And he showed
everything that he could be
457
00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:19,551
the superstar that he could be.
458
00:20:19,593 --> 00:20:22,638
And there is chaos in the ring.
459
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,431
We were grateful for the fact
460
00:20:24,473 --> 00:20:26,725
that he had recovered
and the fight went on,
461
00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:30,521
but it was a source
of great concern to us
462
00:20:30,562 --> 00:20:32,856
from that point forward
because we knew
463
00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:34,900
he was dealing, you know,
with the demons.
464
00:20:34,942 --> 00:20:38,153
So, Hector Camacho continues to prove
465
00:20:38,195 --> 00:20:39,613
that he is the real thing.
466
00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,573
Folks here in Alaska, they saw
467
00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:44,576
the one-punch power
of "Macho" Camacho.
468
00:20:44,618 --> 00:20:47,246
If the Montes fight
revealed the best
469
00:20:47,288 --> 00:20:48,747
of Camacho in the ring,
470
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:51,959
it also was a reminder
of the realities of life
471
00:20:52,001 --> 00:20:54,336
in the streets
where he'd come from.
472
00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:56,005
This is Spanish Harlem.
473
00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:58,007
Streets where handguns
are as common
474
00:20:58,048 --> 00:20:59,550
as truants and drugs.
475
00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:01,027
There's been high unemployment
476
00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:02,261
in the Hispanic community.
477
00:21:02,303 --> 00:21:03,863
Harlem families told of begging,
478
00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,556
borrowing, or even stealing
479
00:21:05,597 --> 00:21:06,890
to put food on the table.
480
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:08,851
Good evening.
There was a gunfight tonight
481
00:21:08,892 --> 00:21:10,161
at an East Harlem grocery store.
482
00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:12,187
Robbers on the one side,
the police on the other...
483
00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:13,564
Grew up in an infested area
484
00:21:13,605 --> 00:21:15,858
where we see junkies
on the floor...
485
00:21:16,817 --> 00:21:19,069
and drug dealers trying
to recruit you.
486
00:21:19,403 --> 00:21:21,822
There was nothing else,
but there was always drugs.
487
00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:24,199
There was no food,
but we had drugs.
488
00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,579
From the moment we were born,
we were just trying
489
00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:30,205
to find something.
490
00:21:35,336 --> 00:21:38,047
But with Hector Camacho
now on the scene,
491
00:21:38,088 --> 00:21:41,383
the people of Spanish Harlem
found a new hero,
492
00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:44,386
and Hector was born
for the role.
493
00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:47,222
Wo-Hey, look at you. Come here.
494
00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:49,558
- Okay.
- You look nice!
495
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,769
- Yeah, look at you!
- I try.
496
00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:53,228
Looking cute!
497
00:21:53,771 --> 00:21:55,522
He was the pride
of Spanish Harlem.
498
00:21:55,564 --> 00:21:57,167
It's 'cause he came from the Barrio.
499
00:21:57,191 --> 00:21:59,151
This the neighborhood cops here.
500
00:22:02,529 --> 00:22:04,114
Get in there! Get in there!
501
00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:07,117
And that's why it meant
a lot to the community.
502
00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:09,370
What kind of guy is he?
503
00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:10,579
One of the best.
504
00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:11,830
Nice to have around here?
505
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,457
I think the best thing
ever happened
506
00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:14,541
to the neighborhood.
507
00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:17,252
He is the thing
that this neighborhood needs.
508
00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:20,756
But a lot of people
grow up in this neighborhood
509
00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:22,633
and don't make it
the way you have.
510
00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:26,595
What I had going
for myself was a boxing career
511
00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:28,514
and I started
getting recognition.
512
00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:29,890
And I always wanted it,
513
00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:32,393
so I'm a big role model
out there.
514
00:22:32,434 --> 00:22:33,602
Everybody looks up to me
515
00:22:33,644 --> 00:22:36,188
and they know me
and they support me,
516
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:38,232
and they want me to go out there
517
00:22:38,273 --> 00:22:39,608
and represent myself
518
00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:43,654
as one of the baddest,
toughest Puerto Ricans ever.
519
00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:47,366
They want to see me
establish greatness.
520
00:22:47,408 --> 00:22:50,744
And on his way
to greatness in 1983,
521
00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:52,371
Hector now 21 and 0,
522
00:22:52,413 --> 00:22:55,791
got his first shot
at a world title in Puerto Rico
523
00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:58,127
against Rafael "Bazooka" Limon.
524
00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:08,262
The rivalry
between Mexico and Puerto Rico
525
00:23:08,303 --> 00:23:09,430
in boxing is legendary.
526
00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:11,557
And Limon was
a great Mexican warrior
527
00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:13,434
and a tough guy.
Perfect for Camacho.
528
00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:16,145
Well, today, he will have
an opportunity
529
00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:18,772
to show the fans
down on the island
530
00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:20,190
his skills in person.
531
00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:22,484
Remember, he was born
just a few miles
532
00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:24,611
from here in Bayamon,
Puerto Rico.
533
00:23:24,653 --> 00:23:26,506
And it's the first time
that he has fought here...
534
00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:28,466
He was raised in New York,
535
00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:30,951
and his career
had already started
536
00:23:30,993 --> 00:23:33,120
and taken shape
in the United States.
537
00:23:33,162 --> 00:23:35,080
He wasn't fully accepted.
538
00:23:35,289 --> 00:23:38,000
He wasn't the hometown guy,
539
00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:39,334
but nonetheless,
540
00:23:39,376 --> 00:23:41,587
he was a Puerto Rican
against a Mexican.
541
00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:42,963
A very live crowd,
542
00:23:43,005 --> 00:23:44,840
awaiting the start of this bout
543
00:23:44,882 --> 00:23:46,967
with high anticipation.
544
00:23:47,009 --> 00:23:49,011
He was antsy,
and the promoters were saying
545
00:23:49,052 --> 00:23:51,847
he's supposed to be in his room
asleep or laying down.
546
00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:52,931
"I'm fine."
547
00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:54,367
"No, you're supposed
to be getting your rest."
548
00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:55,434
"I'm fine."
549
00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:58,437
He couldn't just sit there.
That was not him.
550
00:23:58,479 --> 00:24:01,273
Here he is, the most colorful figure
551
00:24:01,315 --> 00:24:02,774
in boxing today,
552
00:24:02,816 --> 00:24:05,068
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
553
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:07,779
He has the Puerto Rican flag
on his head.
554
00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:09,615
To be back in Puerto Rico
555
00:24:09,656 --> 00:24:10,824
was a big deal for him.
556
00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:12,868
As you can see, just unable to move.
557
00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:14,453
The aisles are clogged,
558
00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:15,871
and he's unable to come forward.
559
00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:17,331
There's no question
560
00:24:17,372 --> 00:24:19,166
when that fight began,
561
00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:21,835
he knew he had to win it,
562
00:24:21,877 --> 00:24:24,338
because the fans
expected him to win it.
563
00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:28,717
The Limon fight was
564
00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:30,219
the coming-out party
for Camacho.
565
00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:33,180
Letting the people, you know,
get to know him, see him,
566
00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:34,932
feel good about him.
567
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,517
Claim him.
568
00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:37,785
And, uh, the usual
569
00:24:37,809 --> 00:24:40,312
Macho Man presentation
being made here.
570
00:24:40,354 --> 00:24:42,898
He was on stage,
the curtain came back...
571
00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:44,650
Macho and Limon.
572
00:24:44,691 --> 00:24:47,903
Limon ranked number three,
Camacho number one.
573
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:49,820
And he shined.
574
00:24:50,781 --> 00:24:52,366
And the bells
for round number one.
575
00:24:52,407 --> 00:24:54,284
Richard Steele,
the referee, calls them
576
00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:56,119
to the center of the ring.
577
00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:59,623
A quick start by Camacho
who landed a left hand
578
00:24:59,665 --> 00:25:02,960
that knocked Limon
back into his corner.
579
00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:05,921
Limon takes a real good punch,
but when Camacho hits you,
580
00:25:05,963 --> 00:25:07,482
sometimes you don't see
the punch coming.
581
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,425
It's Camacho's
speed and prowess there.
582
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,094
It's just truly amazing.
583
00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:13,762
I called a number of his fights.
584
00:25:13,804 --> 00:25:16,723
He was just slick.
He was super fast,
585
00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:18,934
strong, real confidant.
586
00:25:18,976 --> 00:25:21,144
I like the way
he dances as he's punching.
587
00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:23,105
It's like on the dance floor.
588
00:25:23,564 --> 00:25:25,899
His footwork was
just incredible.
589
00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:28,735
Movement, the uppercuts,
and the hooks, and the...
590
00:25:28,777 --> 00:25:30,988
He had the whole package.
591
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:34,783
Down goes Limon
on the left hand at the bell.
592
00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:38,579
Combination to the head
sends Limon
593
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,622
right through the ropes.
594
00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:43,584
And that is all. Richard Steele
has stopped the fight.
595
00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:47,546
Hector Camacho has scored
a fifth round knockout
596
00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:52,259
and won the vacant WBC
super featherweight crown.
597
00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:54,052
For Macho to defeat
598
00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:57,306
a major important
Mexican fighter,
599
00:25:57,347 --> 00:26:00,392
that was, that was
a crowning moment for him
600
00:26:00,434 --> 00:26:02,102
to the Puerto Rican people.
601
00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:03,770
Hector "Macho" Camacho,
602
00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:07,024
enjoying his triumph
in the arms of his mother.
603
00:26:07,274 --> 00:26:08,775
Macho Camacho's mama!
604
00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:11,862
Every people, "Whoa,
Maria! Love you, Maria!
605
00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:14,323
Macho! Macho! Macho! Yeah!"
606
00:26:14,364 --> 00:26:15,324
We have fun that day.
607
00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:17,451
It was kind of like hitting
608
00:26:17,492 --> 00:26:19,036
The Ed Sullivan Show,
609
00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:21,496
and when The Beatles got there,
610
00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:23,498
and now you knew
who The Beatles were.
611
00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:25,709
That day, you knew
who Camacho was.
612
00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:28,253
There wasn't any doubt in
your mind about winning this?
613
00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:29,480
I keep telling you,
I'm going to be
614
00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:30,505
a three-time champion,
615
00:26:30,547 --> 00:26:31,673
'cause I'm the Macho Man
616
00:26:31,715 --> 00:26:33,175
and I'm dominating the game.
617
00:26:33,216 --> 00:26:34,760
It's my time! Macho time!
618
00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:36,511
- What time is it?
- Macho time
619
00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:40,098
As a world champion,
Hector's profile took off.
620
00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:42,851
He was on his way
to becoming a household name,
621
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,520
and his fame was already
about a lot more
622
00:26:45,562 --> 00:26:47,147
than just his boxing.
623
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:50,233
He just exploded onto the scene.
624
00:26:50,275 --> 00:26:52,194
There's nobody
like me right now,
625
00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:53,487
at this moment.
626
00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:56,198
People like me, Elvis.
I mean, hey...
627
00:26:56,239 --> 00:26:58,784
The cars that he used to steal
one time, now he was buying.
628
00:26:58,825 --> 00:27:01,662
He used to pick me up at school
with the Lamborghini.
629
00:27:01,703 --> 00:27:04,665
When he had the Lamborghini,
the doors that opens,
630
00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:05,957
when they first came out.
631
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:09,419
When I came outside, I said,
"Oh, my brother, my brother!"
632
00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,673
He was so charismatic.
633
00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:16,176
He would see you in the street
and he would hug you
634
00:27:16,218 --> 00:27:19,262
as if you were the best friend
he had ever had.
635
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:21,556
He loved to have a good time.
636
00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:24,643
The way I dress,
the way I dance,
637
00:27:24,685 --> 00:27:27,145
sexiness about me. I love it.
638
00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:29,648
Uh... Macho was crazy.
639
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:32,651
Macho was like,
he didn't copy from nobody.
640
00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:34,253
He didn't want the things
that you want.
641
00:27:34,277 --> 00:27:35,946
He wanted to be different.
642
00:27:35,987 --> 00:27:37,698
He used to make all his outfits.
643
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:39,533
I'm very creative.
644
00:27:39,574 --> 00:27:41,201
And I started drawing.
645
00:27:41,243 --> 00:27:43,495
See, now this
will be a jumpsuit.
646
00:27:43,537 --> 00:27:46,373
Maybe suede in black.
647
00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:48,250
So I come up
with things like this,
648
00:27:48,291 --> 00:27:50,752
and I start analyzing
myself, you know,
649
00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:52,879
and I come up
with things like this.
650
00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:54,548
So it makes me
very different, you know.
651
00:27:54,589 --> 00:27:57,509
He was very, uh, outrageous,
652
00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:00,262
uh, flamboyant, ostentatious.
653
00:28:00,303 --> 00:28:03,890
All those words
that mean, pow, here's me!
654
00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:07,185
He brought another dimension
to the sport.
655
00:28:07,227 --> 00:28:08,478
During one fight, Macho,
656
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,831
wanted me to go
in the ring with him.
657
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:11,040
He said, "I can't be
the only Indian."
658
00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,607
And I'm like, "Are you serious?"
659
00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:14,609
This is live television.
660
00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:15,861
I'm dancing around in Indian,
661
00:28:15,902 --> 00:28:17,654
doing an Indian war dance
with him.
662
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:18,822
I tell you what,
663
00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:20,049
they broke the mold
when they invented
664
00:28:20,073 --> 00:28:21,450
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
665
00:28:21,491 --> 00:28:23,577
He is special for sure.
666
00:28:23,618 --> 00:28:24,953
It wasn't a costume.
667
00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:27,622
Those were his suit of armor.
668
00:28:28,165 --> 00:28:32,002
He became those costumes,
this character in the ring.
669
00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:34,629
That was his flag
in the ground, you know.
670
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,797
Oh, yeah.
671
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,300
It went to his mantra.
"What time is it?"
672
00:28:38,341 --> 00:28:42,012
Macho time! Macho time!
673
00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:44,890
I like Batman, I love Superman
674
00:28:44,931 --> 00:28:49,686
and the Lone Ranger,
and, uh, Zorro, you know.
675
00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:52,814
You put all of those
superheroes together,
676
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:56,151
there's nobody like
the Macho Man, you know.
677
00:28:56,193 --> 00:28:59,112
People going to just
sit back and say, wow,
678
00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:02,032
you know, i-i-it's a dream.
679
00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,952
He was comfortable in that skin
680
00:29:05,994 --> 00:29:08,288
because he wanted to entertain.
681
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:09,664
He wanted to be liked.
682
00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:12,167
He wanted to be thought of
683
00:29:12,209 --> 00:29:14,085
as something worthwhile.
684
00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:15,504
Mr. President.
685
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:16,922
Champ. How are you?
686
00:29:16,963 --> 00:29:19,424
Well, I've been
all around the world.
687
00:29:20,842 --> 00:29:22,761
I met ambassadors, presidents,
688
00:29:22,803 --> 00:29:24,846
I mean, I'm... I'm important.
689
00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:26,848
I'm important 'cause of boxing.
690
00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:30,852
A little cockroach that was
crawling around the ghetto.
691
00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:35,607
For at least a moment,
after Sugar Ray Leonard
692
00:29:35,649 --> 00:29:39,027
and before Mike Tyson,
Hector "Macho" Camacho
693
00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:41,279
was the biggest name in boxing.
694
00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:44,074
But alongside all
the success and fame,
695
00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:46,743
some things started to change.
696
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,596
There was a period
where you weren't happy, right?
697
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,832
Well, you know, every...
It's a learning process.
698
00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,100
When you're in
the learning process,
699
00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:54,793
you get frustrated, you know,
700
00:29:54,835 --> 00:29:57,337
you quite
don't see things right,
701
00:29:57,379 --> 00:29:59,047
you kind of like
don't understand.
702
00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:01,591
I wasn't trained for this.
703
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:03,134
At the beginning of his career,
704
00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:04,135
everything was great.
705
00:30:04,177 --> 00:30:06,096
It was about his family.
706
00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:08,890
After that,
new people came around,
707
00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:11,476
you know, different managers,
708
00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:14,396
trainers, different people
around him.
709
00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:16,481
So this start changing.
710
00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:19,109
Talking about how great
he was, he don't need me,
711
00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:20,944
and he don't need this guy.
712
00:30:20,986 --> 00:30:21,945
See what happens.
713
00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:23,238
But I said, you know what?
714
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,240
If that's how y'all feel...
715
00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:27,200
you know, I walk away.
716
00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:31,496
But I was no longer there
to enforce anything.
717
00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:33,582
That's when things fell apart.
718
00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:37,168
What happened with Camacho, he
became an overnight sensation.
719
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,462
You know, the championships
come with serious partying.
720
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,756
The excitement
of winning, the people.
721
00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:43,192
There was never
running out of anything.
722
00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:44,509
So how much can we consume?
723
00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:45,802
How much partying can we do?
724
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:47,804
How much drinking can we do?
725
00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,681
And next thing you know,
he's on a course,
726
00:30:49,723 --> 00:30:52,309
two or three weeks later,
no food, no sleep,
727
00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:54,019
and we can't bring him down.
728
00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:56,938
Right now, people thinking that
729
00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:58,773
I'm a juvenile delinquent,
730
00:30:58,815 --> 00:31:01,026
people constantly
coming on to me,
731
00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:03,445
destroying me, destroying me.
732
00:31:03,486 --> 00:31:05,447
I said, dang, you know,
when you can't breathe,
733
00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:06,406
can't breathe.
734
00:31:06,448 --> 00:31:09,367
Open, open,
open the window, you see?
735
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:10,577
I got on that plane.
736
00:31:10,619 --> 00:31:13,496
I'm leaving in the jet plane.
737
00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:16,249
Don't know when
I'll be back again.
738
00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:20,420
He just wanted his solace.
739
00:31:20,462 --> 00:31:22,964
He just wanted his tranquility.
740
00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:26,468
He wanted to be away
from everybody.
741
00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:42,817
Little salt.
742
00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,820
Little canela.
743
00:31:45,987 --> 00:31:48,406
Everyday four o'clock
in the morning,
744
00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:50,909
sometimes three o'clock
in the morning,
745
00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:52,744
"Mommy, get up. Mommy, get up!
746
00:31:52,786 --> 00:31:54,412
Make me my oatmeal!"
747
00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:57,582
I said "This time?"
He don't care, he eat it.
748
00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:02,128
Mommy's avena, her oatmeal,
my mother's. Oh!
749
00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:04,714
That was one
of his favorites. Mm-hmm.
750
00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:09,052
When he wanted avena,
Mommy will make him his avena.
751
00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:10,971
He used to eat it.
He would sleep for hours
752
00:32:11,012 --> 00:32:12,973
and hours and hours.
753
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,184
Sugar.
754
00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:19,854
This was like
his little secret place.
755
00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:22,482
So when he will come,
he will come sober,
756
00:32:22,524 --> 00:32:25,360
and it was to sleep
and eat and relax.
757
00:32:25,402 --> 00:32:27,278
- Mm-hmm.
- You know, relax.
758
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,490
He used to stay there
for weeks and weeks.
759
00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:35,370
"No, don't tell Mommy
about all this"
760
00:32:35,412 --> 00:32:38,164
going on with the cocaine.
761
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:40,542
But I find out.
762
00:32:40,583 --> 00:32:43,753
"I can feel that you're doing
something wrong," I said.
763
00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:46,339
Good.
764
00:32:47,549 --> 00:32:48,967
"Mommy, I won't tell you,
765
00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:52,137
but I'm not going to do it
in front of you, you know."
766
00:32:52,178 --> 00:32:54,514
I say you have to stop that.
767
00:32:55,015 --> 00:32:57,851
Something might happen
to you, I'm going to die.
768
00:32:57,892 --> 00:32:59,978
And that was always
the little rumble
769
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,354
I used to have with him.
770
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:03,398
You know, he needs to stop that.
771
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,150
You know, that's
no good for you.
772
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360
You know, we used
to fight with people
773
00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:09,279
that was around him,
774
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,530
that we knew
775
00:33:10,572 --> 00:33:12,240
that was giving it to him.
776
00:33:12,741 --> 00:33:15,535
No, so we used
to always... baaaaah.
777
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,413
He used to leave, disappear.
778
00:33:18,455 --> 00:33:20,623
I'm going through
all these mental stumbles,
779
00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:23,585
you know,
not wanting to break away,
780
00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:27,547
you know, from something
that I come from.
781
00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:32,886
But I'm the Macho Man,
you see, the street life.
782
00:33:32,927 --> 00:33:34,554
You know, it's fun.
783
00:33:35,221 --> 00:33:37,265
He was a little reckless,
784
00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:38,683
you know.
785
00:33:38,892 --> 00:33:40,560
It was just who he was.
786
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:45,106
Hector became a father
when he was only 16.
787
00:33:48,568 --> 00:33:50,070
It was tough.
788
00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:55,992
One time, we was in Puerto Rico,
789
00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,828
I'm probably like eight years
old, man, nine years old.
790
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,097
In the morning,
I heard the phone ringing.
791
00:34:00,121 --> 00:34:02,415
I looked around
my father wasn't around.
792
00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:06,419
So I got up, grabbed the phone.
793
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Hello.
794
00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:11,174
Papi! My father told me.
I said, "Pops, where you at?"
795
00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:14,052
"Listen, I'm in Florida."
We in Puerto Rico.
796
00:34:14,094 --> 00:34:15,845
He said, "Listen,
I'm in Florida.
797
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,097
"I'll be here for three days.
798
00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:18,138
Look under the pillow."
799
00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:20,433
I went to his bed,
look under the pillow.
800
00:34:20,475 --> 00:34:21,935
Bunch of money there.
801
00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:23,769
Grabbed the money.
802
00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:25,939
Went back, "Yeah, Pops,
you left some money here."
803
00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:27,333
"No, no, that's for you.
I'm in Florida."
804
00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:29,567
He left me in a hotel,
went to another state.
805
00:34:29,943 --> 00:34:32,987
"That's the money, if
you need anything, use it."
806
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:38,868
He's a kid. He's a big kid.
That's just who he was.
807
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,454
But emotionally, he was,
he was a wreck.
808
00:34:42,539 --> 00:34:43,957
Two sides.
809
00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:45,875
Less than a year into his reign
810
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,502
as super featherweight champ,
811
00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,504
the pressure seemed
to get to Hector,
812
00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:52,632
and he took more
than six months off.
813
00:34:52,674 --> 00:34:55,385
When he returned to the ring
against Louie Burke,
814
00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:57,971
there were plenty of signs
of the turmoil
815
00:34:58,012 --> 00:34:59,639
he was going through.
816
00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:04,686
Hector had been
through one of his bad spells,
817
00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:07,021
so we were a little concerned
818
00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:08,481
about what shape he would be in
819
00:35:08,523 --> 00:35:11,109
to put on a fight
on our network.
820
00:35:11,317 --> 00:35:12,360
Well, he did well.
821
00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:15,572
Not his greatest performance,
but he was solid.
822
00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:16,406
He won the fight.
823
00:35:16,447 --> 00:35:17,699
Hector Camacho
824
00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:20,952
with, if you want
to call it a comeback fight.
825
00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:22,662
Boy, it feels good being back!
826
00:35:22,704 --> 00:35:25,498
I love it! Yeah, buddy!
827
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:26,934
All right.
Now, one other thing...
828
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,835
In the post-match interview,
829
00:35:28,877 --> 00:35:31,129
suddenly he was crying.
830
00:35:31,337 --> 00:35:33,673
And what about the...
What, what message have you got
831
00:35:33,715 --> 00:35:35,300
for all your fans out there?
832
00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:36,426
I just feel great.
833
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:38,219
I just hope everybody
keeps supporting me,
834
00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:40,346
be my friend.
Because I need friends.
835
00:35:40,889 --> 00:35:43,391
Hector, you're upset
and you've won the fight.
836
00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:44,994
There's no reason
to be upset, young man.
837
00:35:45,018 --> 00:35:47,395
I know the future
is very much ahead of you.
838
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:49,606
He got his head on my shoulder
and was weeping.
839
00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,609
And then he said,
you know, I need friends.
840
00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:53,568
I want to have my,
841
00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:54,920
hope my friends
will keep loving me.
842
00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:57,739
And it was really
quite a moment.
843
00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:59,032
This is still a young man
844
00:35:59,073 --> 00:36:00,909
who feels that
not everybody loves him.
845
00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:02,619
He's come through
a difficult period.
846
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:05,079
And I think that was
a genuine moment
847
00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:07,123
of emotion for Hector Camacho.
848
00:36:07,749 --> 00:36:09,250
He had a lot of demons,
849
00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:11,419
and a lot of that
gets overlooked
850
00:36:11,461 --> 00:36:13,213
because of the power
of his personality.
851
00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:15,048
But you can't overlook
all of it.
852
00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:18,760
You never knew what you were
gonna get with Camacho.
853
00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:21,304
Macho was a champion fighter
854
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:23,056
from the moment that bell rang
855
00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:24,182
to the end of that bell.
856
00:36:24,224 --> 00:36:26,893
And then that's when
the demon came back.
857
00:36:26,935 --> 00:36:30,980
But when he said it's over
and he shook it off,
858
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,317
he became an amazing
prodigy of boxing.
859
00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:37,237
Don't blink an eye
'cause Macho Man is back.
860
00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:39,781
I'm back. I'm way back!
861
00:36:40,698 --> 00:36:43,910
By the middle of 1986,
he was 28 and 0.
862
00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:47,372
Set to face one of his
toughest opponents yet,
863
00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:51,626
Puerto Rico's Edwin Rosario
in Madison Square Garden.
864
00:36:54,254 --> 00:36:59,384
Edwin Rosario
was a hell of a puncher.
865
00:36:59,801 --> 00:37:02,303
Basically one punch
knockout hitter.
866
00:37:02,345 --> 00:37:05,932
Left hook or right hand,
he could end the fight.
867
00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:07,201
But you thought going in,
868
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,285
he's not gonna touch Camacho.
869
00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:09,310
No one touches Camacho.
870
00:37:09,352 --> 00:37:11,437
Camacho doesn't get hit,
he's too quick.
871
00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:15,316
You know,
that Edwin Rosario fight,
872
00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:17,151
it was his toughest fight.
873
00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:19,737
He believed in his talent,
874
00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:23,324
and he had a yearning
to show it.
875
00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:32,125
Good left hand by Camacho.
876
00:37:34,043 --> 00:37:35,253
Good left hand again.
877
00:37:35,295 --> 00:37:38,172
That one got
Rosario's attention.
878
00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:42,176
And a five-punch combination.
879
00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:45,096
Camacho appears
to have seized command
880
00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:46,472
of the fight at this point.
881
00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,392
Check out the chants
of Macho, Macho!
882
00:37:50,518 --> 00:37:52,645
I thought
he was doing a great job,
883
00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:54,814
and then all of a sudden...
884
00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:00,504
There's the left hook.
885
00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:01,529
Very good exchange.
886
00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:02,739
And a good right hand too.
887
00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,366
That snapped Camacho away
for the moment.
888
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:09,954
A left hand! And Camacho's hurt!
889
00:38:09,996 --> 00:38:11,748
Rosario is right on him!
890
00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:13,708
That was the first time
891
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:15,668
that he really got hit.
892
00:38:16,878 --> 00:38:18,087
Hit!
893
00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:19,339
When you get hit hard,
894
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:20,590
you just get rocked.
895
00:38:20,631 --> 00:38:22,216
You feel funny.
896
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,552
You start, you know,
897
00:38:24,594 --> 00:38:27,764
seeing that person,
like, go like that.
898
00:38:28,514 --> 00:38:30,933
Your heart starts pumping.
899
00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:33,436
And then you say I'm all right.
900
00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:35,355
He's hurt bad.
901
00:38:35,646 --> 00:38:36,522
I'm all right.
902
00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:37,750
Camacho now bleeding
903
00:38:37,774 --> 00:38:39,108
from the nose
as well as the eye.
904
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:41,986
Camacho has never been
in this kind of trouble.
905
00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:45,490
Now we'll see the kind
of champion he is.
906
00:38:45,531 --> 00:38:46,449
You all right?
907
00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:47,784
All right. He's all right.
908
00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:49,494
- You all right, Hector?
- Yeah.
909
00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:50,995
Camacho is gonna be pushed
910
00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:52,413
to the limit in this fight.
911
00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:56,000
Now, there were
a couple of punches,
912
00:38:56,042 --> 00:38:58,711
and it came like that.
And now he's jumped on Rosario.
913
00:38:58,753 --> 00:38:59,962
He stood his ground.
914
00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:03,216
He never fell. He never fell.
He never got knocked out.
915
00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:05,510
He stood toe to toe.
916
00:39:05,551 --> 00:39:07,970
Camacho moves in.
917
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:10,640
And he never backed out,
and that's the champion
918
00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:13,393
that he was,
that is the heart of a lion.
919
00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:14,560
That's what boxing is.
920
00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:16,396
Camacho got caught
with that left hook,
921
00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:18,606
but he survived it.
922
00:39:18,648 --> 00:39:20,108
The great ones survive it.
923
00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:21,818
That's part of
what makes them great.
924
00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:26,656
The winner,
Hector "Macho" Camacho!
925
00:39:27,573 --> 00:39:30,743
It was his first fight
that he had to use something
926
00:39:30,785 --> 00:39:33,538
other than skill to win.
927
00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:34,580
It was called will.
928
00:39:34,622 --> 00:39:37,291
Hector... Hector, that one tested
929
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:38,543
your character a little bit.
930
00:39:38,584 --> 00:39:40,753
You were being
smacked around pretty good.
931
00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:43,005
Larry, to be honest,
932
00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:46,050
this is the first fight
I ever got hit consistent.
933
00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:47,552
It was a close fight
934
00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:49,262
I'll be the first one
to admit it,
935
00:39:49,303 --> 00:39:51,389
but I was the more
skillful fighter,
936
00:39:51,431 --> 00:39:52,807
and I proved it.
937
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,144
I remember after that fight,
938
00:39:56,185 --> 00:39:57,812
we go to the hotel,
939
00:39:57,854 --> 00:40:00,064
you know, he kept on saying
to me, he's like,
940
00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:01,482
"How do I look?"
941
00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:04,152
He was, he was beat up.
942
00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:06,654
And he didn't understand it.
943
00:40:08,114 --> 00:40:09,657
He didn't understand it.
944
00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:10,658
He goes...
945
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:13,077
"Wow, this is what I've
been doing to people all along.
946
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,788
I don't like it.
I don't like to get hit."
947
00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:17,373
He was so conscious of,
948
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:19,834
of how everybody
now perceived him.
949
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:25,298
'Cause now he didn't feel like
he was the Macho Man.
950
00:40:26,299 --> 00:40:28,301
He was exposed a little bit.
951
00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:30,303
"Now what am I gonna do?"
952
00:40:37,643 --> 00:40:39,312
I didn't know
whether he was going
953
00:40:39,353 --> 00:40:40,480
to continue boxing.
954
00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:43,858
Like, he was like really,
really, really shook
955
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:45,026
after that.
956
00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:47,528
He changed from that point on.
957
00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:50,198
There was a borning
of a new Camacho.
958
00:40:50,781 --> 00:40:54,577
Where it started to go crooked,
it started to go the wrong way.
959
00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:57,038
There was a side of him
that was never the same
960
00:40:57,079 --> 00:40:58,247
after the Rosario fight.
961
00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:00,750
He became more of a survivor
and less of a fighter.
962
00:41:00,791 --> 00:41:02,543
The major story in this fight
963
00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:06,547
is that Camacho,
can he be the Macho Man?
964
00:41:06,964 --> 00:41:09,217
And he started to figure,
you know what?
965
00:41:09,258 --> 00:41:12,220
I'm not going to walk in
and try to slug with anybody.
966
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,640
I am going to use
all my assets, my speed,
967
00:41:15,681 --> 00:41:18,142
to keep the hell away.
968
00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:20,978
Davis again becoming more assertive.
969
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,064
Macho backing up.
970
00:41:23,773 --> 00:41:26,692
A kid like Camacho,
there are certain insecurities
971
00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:28,569
that, that kind of bark
at that door.
972
00:41:28,611 --> 00:41:31,239
There's always something
barking at that door
973
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,241
saying, I want to prove
974
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,409
that I'm better
than people said I was.
975
00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:37,662
There's always something,
it's never far away
976
00:41:37,703 --> 00:41:39,372
from that fricking door.
977
00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:44,168
And then the thing that we see
that gets him through
978
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:45,378
is the speed
979
00:41:45,419 --> 00:41:47,380
and the talent and the legs.
980
00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:49,924
I-it's just magnificent.
981
00:41:52,385 --> 00:41:54,845
But there's something
that's attached to that.
982
00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:58,140
There's something
that really started
983
00:41:58,182 --> 00:41:59,976
this whole journey for him.
984
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:02,270
That he could believe
in himself.
985
00:42:02,979 --> 00:42:05,648
And when I lose
a kid like this...
986
00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:07,626
it's like a great wind blew,
987
00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:10,653
you're freaking the hell
out of the ocean.
988
00:42:12,196 --> 00:42:14,949
I think there was a point
where people definitely wanted
989
00:42:14,991 --> 00:42:16,450
Camacho to lose.
990
00:42:17,451 --> 00:42:20,788
I sure ain't
no American boy, you know.
991
00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:24,792
That title they gave
to me, I've seen it.
992
00:42:24,834 --> 00:42:29,005
In 1989, Hector fought
Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini,
993
00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:33,134
going for a world championship
in a third weight class.
994
00:42:33,175 --> 00:42:35,219
Against the Midwestern
folk hero,
995
00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:37,597
Camacho's identity
as a character
996
00:42:37,638 --> 00:42:41,183
and then a fighter
was suddenly transformed.
997
00:42:41,225 --> 00:42:42,768
Certainly has been set up
998
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:45,938
as the hero versus the villain.
999
00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:47,481
Camacho was personal.
1000
00:42:47,523 --> 00:42:48,858
We had a true dislike
1001
00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:50,735
and animosity towards each other
1002
00:42:50,776 --> 00:42:53,195
because of what he was doing,
how he lived.
1003
00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:54,673
You say, this guy's
crazy as cat shit.
1004
00:42:54,697 --> 00:42:56,824
You know, he's just
out of his mind.
1005
00:42:57,366 --> 00:42:58,909
So I wanted to beat his ass.
1006
00:42:58,951 --> 00:43:00,804
I really wanted to give him
a beating he deserved.
1007
00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:03,706
This feud has built up.
1008
00:43:05,958 --> 00:43:07,418
And this is just the way
1009
00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:08,562
Hector Camacho wants to fight.
1010
00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:11,339
He wants to keep moving,
keep on the run.
1011
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:14,383
So elusive is "Macho" Camacho.
1012
00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:15,777
He's bending underneath
those punches.
1013
00:43:15,801 --> 00:43:18,304
It appears as though
Camacho is just trying
1014
00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:20,556
to last through these rounds.
1015
00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:24,060
And this crowd does not like
the holding-on tactics
1016
00:43:24,101 --> 00:43:25,603
that Hector Camacho is using.
1017
00:43:25,645 --> 00:43:27,647
You know, all he did
was run, that whole fight.
1018
00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:28,731
He didn't do nothing.
1019
00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:29,940
He's holding on.
1020
00:43:29,982 --> 00:43:31,622
He's trying to make it
through this round.
1021
00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:35,237
I thought I won the fight.
1022
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:36,879
I certainly thought
I dictated the fight.
1023
00:43:36,906 --> 00:43:38,240
I thought I controlled
the fight.
1024
00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:42,161
115 to 113 for the winner...
1025
00:43:42,203 --> 00:43:45,748
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
1026
00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:50,252
The pro-Mancini
crowd, of course,
1027
00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:53,589
voicing their disapproval.
1028
00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:56,008
A lot of the fans
went south on him.
1029
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,389
So he had to reinvent himself...
1030
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:04,767
and he did.
1031
00:44:06,727 --> 00:44:08,396
He met Amy.
1032
00:44:08,437 --> 00:44:10,690
Beautiful, beautiful Amy.
1033
00:44:10,731 --> 00:44:11,857
He fell in love with her.
1034
00:44:11,899 --> 00:44:13,943
And for me, that was
the love of his life.
1035
00:44:14,276 --> 00:44:16,070
They both was meant
for each other.
1036
00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:17,947
He kept it real with her.
1037
00:44:21,409 --> 00:44:23,452
Oh, this is it, watch.
1038
00:44:25,371 --> 00:44:26,789
Look at that picture.
1039
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:29,875
I'm telling you,
he walked around the house
1040
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:31,877
butt naked all the time.
1041
00:44:32,503 --> 00:44:34,422
Look at the dog, poor dog.
1042
00:44:36,006 --> 00:44:38,759
Everybody was a fan of Macho's
in our neighborhood.
1043
00:44:38,801 --> 00:44:40,177
Just everybody was a fan.
1044
00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:41,571
You know, I mean,
I was watching him
1045
00:44:41,595 --> 00:44:44,056
when I was 12,
13 years old, fight.
1046
00:44:44,098 --> 00:44:47,435
You know what I mean?
And we would go to the events.
1047
00:44:47,935 --> 00:44:49,478
On my 18th birthday,
1048
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,730
I was standing at a payphone
1049
00:44:50,771 --> 00:44:53,607
on Second Avenue
and 112th Street.
1050
00:44:53,649 --> 00:44:55,234
He pulls up, you know,
and he's like,
1051
00:44:55,276 --> 00:44:57,319
"See that girl right there?"
He told his friend,
1052
00:44:57,361 --> 00:44:58,714
"See that girl right there,
that's the one
1053
00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:00,281
that's gonna have my babies."
1054
00:45:00,322 --> 00:45:02,116
And I was like, ew, you nasty!
1055
00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:05,745
I said, bye.
And that's how it all started.
1056
00:45:05,786 --> 00:45:09,123
We got married
on Valentine's Day in court.
1057
00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:13,461
I settled down my family,
1058
00:45:13,502 --> 00:45:16,005
me and Amy, it's great together.
1059
00:45:16,046 --> 00:45:18,507
You know. We are great
for each other
1060
00:45:18,799 --> 00:45:21,260
and this is amazing,
you know, how...
1061
00:45:21,302 --> 00:45:25,347
I knew that this was going
to bring a change in me.
1062
00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:28,184
I don't need to sneak out
to the clubs,
1063
00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:31,854
sneak out with this girl,
'cause I have my family.
1064
00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:34,064
When they got married,
he was in a...
1065
00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:35,608
he was doing so good.
1066
00:45:35,649 --> 00:45:38,319
She was there to help him
at all times, you know.
1067
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,614
Helping him with a fight,
made sure that he trained.
1068
00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:42,656
Amy ran the camp.
1069
00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:45,159
Amy did not only
take care of Camacho,
1070
00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,535
she took care of all of us.
1071
00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:49,330
She was everything
that we lived and we did.
1072
00:45:49,371 --> 00:45:51,040
She was there for all of us.
1073
00:45:51,081 --> 00:45:53,501
You know, like,
she was real strong with Mach,
1074
00:45:53,542 --> 00:45:55,544
and she was good for him.
1075
00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:58,756
I feel so in control,
1076
00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:01,383
you know, in control of a life,
1077
00:46:01,425 --> 00:46:02,927
a world, you know, my world!
1078
00:46:02,968 --> 00:46:05,012
As long as I stay
in that little world,
1079
00:46:05,054 --> 00:46:07,181
ain't nothing gonna go wrong.
1080
00:46:08,808 --> 00:46:11,268
- What time is it?
- - Macho time!
1081
00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:14,230
- What time is it?
- -Macho time!
1082
00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:18,359
By 1990, the still
undefeated Hector Camacho
1083
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,653
had firmly taken on
a new evolution
1084
00:46:20,694 --> 00:46:24,698
in his identity,
boxing superstar villain.
1085
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,742
He still had his fans for sure
1086
00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:28,619
but also thousands
who would buy tickets
1087
00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:31,831
hoping to see him
finally get knocked out.
1088
00:46:31,872 --> 00:46:33,457
Which made Vinny Pazienza,
1089
00:46:33,499 --> 00:46:36,502
the beloved blue collar slugger
from New England,
1090
00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:38,254
the perfect opponent.
1091
00:46:38,838 --> 00:46:43,259
We did a tour.
The "Put Up or Shut Up" tour.
1092
00:46:43,759 --> 00:46:46,095
He was a little wilder
than I was.
1093
00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:47,388
Macho time!
1094
00:46:47,429 --> 00:46:48,973
Traveling around
with Hector Camacho.
1095
00:46:49,014 --> 00:46:52,184
You bring sleeping pills,
you bring ear plugs,
1096
00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:54,395
and in some cases
you go to the extremes
1097
00:46:54,436 --> 00:46:55,563
and you bring razorblades.
1098
00:46:55,604 --> 00:46:56,915
In case he gets
real hot and heavy,
1099
00:46:56,939 --> 00:46:58,416
you go back to the room
and you end it all.
1100
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,359
There was a lot of hype.
Him and Pazienza
1101
00:47:00,401 --> 00:47:01,694
were going back and forth.
1102
00:47:01,735 --> 00:47:03,070
If this is his hometown
1103
00:47:03,112 --> 00:47:06,699
if he's fighting here,
let him hype it up.
1104
00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:07,867
Why should I be here?
1105
00:47:07,908 --> 00:47:10,244
You know, that was just
where his marketability...
1106
00:47:10,286 --> 00:47:12,913
And he was very charismatic
and so was Vinny Pazienza.
1107
00:47:12,955 --> 00:47:16,333
And he goes on and on, and he's
a schizophrenic little dude.
1108
00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:19,503
I mean, he's a wannabe,
he's a "Macho" Camacho wannabe.
1109
00:47:19,545 --> 00:47:22,131
He's, uh, in a world
all his own.
1110
00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:24,341
He's a legend in his own mind.
1111
00:47:24,383 --> 00:47:25,801
The fight was secondary.
1112
00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,094
The pre-fight buildup was...
1113
00:47:27,136 --> 00:47:30,180
They used language
and they insulted each other
1114
00:47:30,222 --> 00:47:32,308
in ways in our politically
correct world today,
1115
00:47:32,349 --> 00:47:33,559
you could never get away with.
1116
00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:35,060
You know? But anyway...
1117
00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:38,606
- Hector, you leave...
- I'm telling
1118
00:47:41,901 --> 00:47:43,777
He got so amped for me,
1119
00:47:43,819 --> 00:47:46,363
he even said to me
before the fight,
1120
00:47:46,405 --> 00:47:48,490
"I got ready for you, Vinny."
1121
00:47:49,158 --> 00:47:51,744
That's it. Then it was on
from there.
1122
00:47:51,785 --> 00:47:53,162
And the excitement
1123
00:47:53,203 --> 00:47:55,623
starting to build at ringside.
1124
00:47:58,626 --> 00:48:01,795
Donald Trump looking on.
1125
00:48:04,131 --> 00:48:08,636
And it's Pazienza
working himself into a frenzy.
1126
00:48:08,677 --> 00:48:12,222
And here he comes
in full headdress.
1127
00:48:12,264 --> 00:48:14,350
Hector Camacho!
1128
00:48:14,391 --> 00:48:17,394
Likes to paint himself
as the villain.
1129
00:48:17,436 --> 00:48:18,854
Likes to provoke people.
1130
00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:21,106
Many people pay money to see
1131
00:48:21,148 --> 00:48:24,902
that someone will shut
the mouth of "Macho" Camacho.
1132
00:48:24,944 --> 00:48:26,612
Camacho told me,
1133
00:48:26,654 --> 00:48:28,781
"I think this is
one of my easier fights,"
1134
00:48:28,822 --> 00:48:32,326
but I always kept thinking
about that Rosario fight.
1135
00:48:32,368 --> 00:48:34,495
You know, is he gonna
have it in his mindset
1136
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:36,288
to just be defensive?
1137
00:48:36,330 --> 00:48:38,707
Important fight for, for Camacho.
1138
00:48:38,749 --> 00:48:41,126
He needs to regain
support of the people.
1139
00:48:41,168 --> 00:48:42,812
I don't know if he's got
that in him anymore.
1140
00:48:42,836 --> 00:48:45,255
He seems conceited. We'll see.
1141
00:48:45,297 --> 00:48:47,216
I thought I was gonna wreck him.
1142
00:48:47,257 --> 00:48:49,843
I thought I was gonna
go right through him.
1143
00:48:49,885 --> 00:48:52,221
Pazienza charging in.
1144
00:48:52,262 --> 00:48:54,515
I was trying to rough him up,
1145
00:48:54,556 --> 00:48:58,227
but he was much stronger...
1146
00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:00,396
and faster.
1147
00:49:00,437 --> 00:49:01,772
Good quickness by Camacho.
1148
00:49:01,814 --> 00:49:03,357
Than I even believed.
1149
00:49:03,649 --> 00:49:07,653
It's like, "Oh boy, this is
gonna be a long night."
1150
00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:11,365
And he makes
Pazienza pay for missing.
1151
00:49:11,407 --> 00:49:13,283
Surprising that
Camacho is willing
1152
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:14,868
to mix it up with Pazienza.
1153
00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:18,539
He stood and fought.
There was no dancing.
1154
00:49:18,706 --> 00:49:20,416
He pretty much stayed
in the pocket.
1155
00:49:20,457 --> 00:49:23,627
He fought Pazienza
on Pazienza's terms.
1156
00:49:23,669 --> 00:49:24,753
And he outfought him.
1157
00:49:24,795 --> 00:49:26,839
When he was at his best, man,
1158
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,007
a thing of beauty.
1159
00:49:28,048 --> 00:49:29,383
He was a thing of beauty.
1160
00:49:30,009 --> 00:49:31,135
That was a fight.
1161
00:49:31,176 --> 00:49:32,678
Camacho with this performance
1162
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,347
will regain a lot of the respect
1163
00:49:35,848 --> 00:49:37,433
of the boxing crowd.
1164
00:49:38,142 --> 00:49:39,935
They called it
"Put Up or Shut Up,"
1165
00:49:39,977 --> 00:49:42,730
and I think both fighters
have put up pretty well.
1166
00:49:42,771 --> 00:49:44,481
This is a heck of a fight.
1167
00:49:44,523 --> 00:49:45,649
Really impressive.
1168
00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:47,776
And that's it.
1169
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,989
The winner and still champion,
1170
00:49:52,031 --> 00:49:55,451
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
1171
00:49:55,492 --> 00:49:59,079
And indeed
tonight, it was Macho time.
1172
00:50:01,623 --> 00:50:03,042
Yo.
1173
00:50:07,087 --> 00:50:08,088
Macho time.
1174
00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:10,841
Man, we had a riot
in that plane, man.
1175
00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:12,426
We had a fucking riot, man.
1176
00:50:12,468 --> 00:50:14,219
He got so amped to fight me,
1177
00:50:14,261 --> 00:50:15,929
he got so jacked up,
1178
00:50:15,971 --> 00:50:17,765
he knew it was going
to be a rumble.
1179
00:50:17,806 --> 00:50:19,141
Thank you. - Macho Man.
1180
00:50:19,183 --> 00:50:21,977
So, he didn't do no drugs before the fight.
1181
00:50:22,019 --> 00:50:24,229
He got in every night early.
1182
00:50:24,271 --> 00:50:26,899
When that happens to guys
that are a little wild
1183
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:30,027
and over the edge
and, you know, like to party,
1184
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:32,154
they're never the same after.
1185
00:50:32,196 --> 00:50:35,074
They're never the same 'cause
they can never come back
1186
00:50:35,115 --> 00:50:36,909
and do what they did.
1187
00:50:37,117 --> 00:50:38,952
-Do your thing, too.
We wanna get you...
1188
00:50:38,994 --> 00:50:40,537
He went crazy with the drugs.
1189
00:50:40,579 --> 00:50:42,498
Oh my God, like right after.
1190
00:50:42,539 --> 00:50:43,916
And he was never the same.
1191
00:50:43,957 --> 00:50:46,752
Don't move back.
I ain't scaring you.
1192
00:50:47,753 --> 00:50:52,591
But yeah, we'll have some fun.
We'll have some fun.
1193
00:50:52,633 --> 00:50:54,968
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
1194
00:50:55,344 --> 00:50:57,513
Undefeated 38 and 0.
1195
00:50:57,554 --> 00:51:00,432
On February 23rd, 1991,
1196
00:51:00,474 --> 00:51:03,185
Hector Camacho
finally lost a fight,
1197
00:51:03,227 --> 00:51:05,395
but not without controversy.
1198
00:51:05,437 --> 00:51:06,647
And then Camacho,
1199
00:51:06,688 --> 00:51:08,774
well, Camacho just starts
fighting.
1200
00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,486
Against Greg Haugen,
Camacho lost a point
1201
00:51:12,528 --> 00:51:14,822
for throwing a punch
between rounds.
1202
00:51:14,863 --> 00:51:18,951
And new champion, Greg...
1203
00:51:18,992 --> 00:51:20,828
But just three months later,
1204
00:51:20,869 --> 00:51:22,496
he'd avenge the defeat
1205
00:51:22,538 --> 00:51:24,498
and reclaim his WBO title.
1206
00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:26,542
Will it be a bitter end
1207
00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:28,919
or will it be a glorious end?
1208
00:51:28,961 --> 00:51:34,383
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
1209
00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:37,886
Macho calls me up one time,
1210
00:51:37,928 --> 00:51:40,097
I got this beautiful
brand new Jaguar.
1211
00:51:40,139 --> 00:51:41,932
He goes, "I need you
to get on a plane.
1212
00:51:41,974 --> 00:51:45,060
I want you to drive me
home to Florida."
1213
00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:47,354
"We're not gonna
stop, Macho, right?"
1214
00:51:47,396 --> 00:51:49,606
He's goes, "No, I promise you
I'm going to behave."
1215
00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:50,732
I said, "Okay."
1216
00:51:50,774 --> 00:51:52,192
We get in this car,
we're driving.
1217
00:51:52,234 --> 00:51:53,527
We're heading close to Texas.
1218
00:51:53,569 --> 00:51:55,487
I said, "Let's pull over
for the night."
1219
00:51:55,529 --> 00:51:56,738
He goes, "No, you just need to
1220
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:57,841
close your eyes
for a little bit.
1221
00:51:57,865 --> 00:51:59,491
I'll keep driving."
1222
00:51:59,533 --> 00:52:00,909
And I'm like, "Macho."
1223
00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:04,288
He goes, "I'm okay.
I won't go speed."
1224
00:52:04,329 --> 00:52:06,290
I said, "Okay,"
and I fall asleep.
1225
00:52:06,331 --> 00:52:08,458
I don't know how long
I was... closed my eyes,
1226
00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:09,501
but it wasn't long.
1227
00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:11,962
He taps me on
my shoulder, he goes,
1228
00:52:12,004 --> 00:52:14,381
"Hey, I need money
for the toll."
1229
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:17,342
And I'm like, "The toll?"
1230
00:52:17,384 --> 00:52:19,845
And I opened my eyes...
1231
00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:21,680
and I see the border.
1232
00:52:21,722 --> 00:52:25,184
We're in the line
to the border into Mexico.
1233
00:52:25,642 --> 00:52:27,311
I'm like, "What are you doing?"
1234
00:52:27,352 --> 00:52:29,771
The patrol looks,
and they've waved for us
1235
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,607
to go into the security check.
1236
00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:33,901
And I'm like, "It's okay,
Macho. No problem.
1237
00:52:33,942 --> 00:52:36,278
I'll take care of this.
Let me talk."
1238
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,405
He goes, "Yeah,
but that's not the problem.
1239
00:52:38,447 --> 00:52:41,200
"I got a little present
in the trunk.
1240
00:52:41,909 --> 00:52:44,828
I got a, I got
a kilo in the trunk."
1241
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:47,414
And I said, "Okay, Macho,
put the top down."
1242
00:52:47,456 --> 00:52:48,957
It was a convertible Jag.
1243
00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:50,667
"And I need you to do Macho time
1244
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,461
right now, right here."
1245
00:52:52,753 --> 00:52:56,006
He puts the top down,
he jumps up out of this car,
1246
00:52:56,048 --> 00:52:59,051
he jumps onto the hood
of this $90,000 Jag,
1247
00:52:59,092 --> 00:53:00,844
and he stands up
and he's screaming
1248
00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:02,179
"Where's Chavez."
1249
00:53:02,221 --> 00:53:03,472
Everybody went crazy.
1250
00:53:03,513 --> 00:53:07,893
The border patrol comes,
everybody started, "Camacho."
1251
00:53:07,935 --> 00:53:11,230
The border patrol guy
passes me with a dog.
1252
00:53:11,271 --> 00:53:13,315
The dog goes crazy.
1253
00:53:13,357 --> 00:53:16,485
The dog starts barking
and scratching.
1254
00:53:16,526 --> 00:53:18,070
I look in the rear view mirror,
1255
00:53:18,111 --> 00:53:19,947
and the border patrol
takes the dog
1256
00:53:19,988 --> 00:53:21,382
and hits him, like that,
he goes, "Shut up.
1257
00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:22,366
That's Camacho."
1258
00:53:22,407 --> 00:53:24,284
I saw the dog's face.
The dog looked like...
1259
00:53:24,493 --> 00:53:28,538
And they opened the border
and they make us make a U-turn.
1260
00:53:28,747 --> 00:53:31,291
We turn around,
we get out of the border
1261
00:53:31,333 --> 00:53:33,293
and he is white as a ghost.
1262
00:53:33,502 --> 00:53:35,754
And I look at him, he goes,
"Don't say nothing to me
1263
00:53:35,796 --> 00:53:38,423
because I just changed my life."
1264
00:53:38,465 --> 00:53:41,593
He goes, "Pull over right now."
1265
00:53:41,635 --> 00:53:43,428
I pull over, he opens the trunk,
1266
00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:45,639
he takes out a tire iron
1267
00:53:45,889 --> 00:53:48,141
and he digs a hole
in the side of the highway
1268
00:53:48,183 --> 00:53:49,184
and he buries this thing.
1269
00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:51,687
He goes, "That's it.
It's over for me.
1270
00:53:52,145 --> 00:53:53,272
That changed my life."
1271
00:53:53,313 --> 00:53:55,482
I'm like, "Good, 'cause
you know what? I'm tired.
1272
00:53:55,524 --> 00:53:57,734
"Let's go stop at a hotel
because you just,
1273
00:53:57,776 --> 00:53:58,920
you just messed up
our schedule."
1274
00:53:58,944 --> 00:54:00,195
He goes, "Yeah, you're right."
1275
00:54:00,237 --> 00:54:02,739
So we go. We go in a hotel,
we check in,
1276
00:54:02,781 --> 00:54:04,032
I go to sleep.
1277
00:54:04,366 --> 00:54:06,243
I must've woken up two
or three hours later.
1278
00:54:06,285 --> 00:54:08,996
I wake up, and he's
nowhere about. He's gone.
1279
00:54:09,037 --> 00:54:10,580
I'm like, "Did he just leave
1280
00:54:10,622 --> 00:54:11,999
and put me through
all this shit?"
1281
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,085
When all of a sudden,
the door opens up
1282
00:54:15,419 --> 00:54:17,296
and he's covered in dirt.
1283
00:54:17,504 --> 00:54:18,815
I'm like, "Dude,
what are you doing?"
1284
00:54:18,839 --> 00:54:20,817
He goes, "Do you remember
where I parked and pulled
1285
00:54:20,841 --> 00:54:21,842
and buried that shit?"
1286
00:54:21,883 --> 00:54:23,802
He spent the whole night
just digging holes,
1287
00:54:23,844 --> 00:54:26,596
trying to find
his lost treasure.
1288
00:54:26,638 --> 00:54:29,516
I winded up dropping
him off two days later.
1289
00:54:30,183 --> 00:54:31,226
I said, "Amy, here he is.
1290
00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:33,979
I don't want to talk
to him for a year."
1291
00:54:36,481 --> 00:54:39,318
In 1992, now 30 years old,
1292
00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:42,446
Camacho prepared for
the pinnacle of his career.
1293
00:54:42,487 --> 00:54:45,324
A match-up with
the legendary Mexican icon
1294
00:54:45,365 --> 00:54:47,659
Julio Cesar Chavez.
1295
00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:55,500
Chavez's record was
an incredible 81 and O.
1296
00:55:01,590 --> 00:55:03,091
Macho time.
1297
00:55:06,303 --> 00:55:08,138
Getting ready
for the Chavez fight.
1298
00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:09,973
We stayed in Ohio
1299
00:55:10,349 --> 00:55:13,185
uh, in Don King's training camp.
1300
00:55:13,226 --> 00:55:16,730
That was the biggest fight,
and it just so happens
1301
00:55:16,772 --> 00:55:19,816
I was actually carrying
my second child
1302
00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:21,234
during that training.
1303
00:55:21,276 --> 00:55:23,111
As I was driving
to the hospital,
1304
00:55:23,153 --> 00:55:25,781
he was running on the side
of the van like this.
1305
00:55:25,822 --> 00:55:28,200
Macho time! Macho time.
1306
00:55:29,618 --> 00:55:30,911
So, the fighters all showed up
1307
00:55:30,952 --> 00:55:32,412
at the hospital
when I had the baby.
1308
00:55:32,454 --> 00:55:35,457
But it was, it just brought
so much light, life, love
1309
00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:39,127
and everything into our world
at that particular moment.
1310
00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:42,172
It's like we were so
close knit at that time,
1311
00:55:42,214 --> 00:55:43,840
like nothing could break us.
1312
00:55:51,264 --> 00:55:54,434
You can, you can see
he is anxious to fight.
1313
00:55:54,476 --> 00:55:56,812
It was just really
a big and special moment.
1314
00:55:56,853 --> 00:55:59,314
Everybody was just waiting
for this fight.
1315
00:55:59,356 --> 00:56:00,857
Are you surprised at how,
1316
00:56:00,899 --> 00:56:02,943
how much hype has gone on
about this fight?
1317
00:56:02,984 --> 00:56:04,611
It sold out in two weeks.
1318
00:56:04,653 --> 00:56:06,822
19,000 seats in two weeks.
1319
00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:09,449
The greatest thing
any promoter can ever say
1320
00:56:09,491 --> 00:56:14,371
is that, "The sign says
sold out! Sold out."
1321
00:56:14,413 --> 00:56:17,290
Macho Man, one
of boxing's most charismatic,
1322
00:56:17,332 --> 00:56:19,793
colorful,
and fun-loving characters.
1323
00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:21,920
I just hope
he doesn't catch cold.
1324
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:25,757
Fight fans, here we go!
1325
00:56:25,799 --> 00:56:30,804
This is it, the bout
you've all been waiting for!
1326
00:56:31,596 --> 00:56:34,099
So, the long-awaited showdown.
1327
00:56:34,141 --> 00:56:37,018
Chavez and Camacho.
1328
00:56:50,907 --> 00:56:53,034
There's the opening bell.
1329
00:56:53,076 --> 00:56:54,828
And here we go.
1330
00:56:55,704 --> 00:56:58,415
Obviously, a pro-Chavez crowd.
1331
00:56:58,457 --> 00:57:00,584
They want him
to give Camacho a beating.
1332
00:57:00,625 --> 00:57:02,043
Winning the fight isn't enough.
1333
00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:03,521
It's gonna take an awful lot of heart
1334
00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:04,671
to take the kind of pounding
1335
00:57:04,713 --> 00:57:06,548
that Chavez can give you.
1336
00:57:07,632 --> 00:57:12,429
Chavez represented
all the nightmares
1337
00:57:12,471 --> 00:57:15,182
he was trying to avoid
1338
00:57:15,223 --> 00:57:17,517
in the Rosario fight
after he got hurt.
1339
00:57:19,186 --> 00:57:21,813
A guy who comes forward,
a guy who could punch,
1340
00:57:21,855 --> 00:57:23,565
a guy who's resilient,
1341
00:57:23,607 --> 00:57:26,902
a guy who on this
particular night
1342
00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:28,320
was relentless.
1343
00:57:28,361 --> 00:57:29,738
Camacho looks like a guy
1344
00:57:29,779 --> 00:57:31,156
that's standing under a cliff
1345
00:57:31,198 --> 00:57:32,240
waiting for it to fall
1346
00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:34,784
because he's getting
pummeled right now.
1347
00:57:34,826 --> 00:57:38,163
What a workman is Chavez. Oh!
1348
00:57:38,205 --> 00:57:40,123
And it's like, somebody said,
1349
00:57:40,165 --> 00:57:42,167
"Now, you can't have your legs.
1350
00:57:42,209 --> 00:57:44,009
"Now, you're gonna have
to take the punishment
1351
00:57:44,044 --> 00:57:46,880
that people wanted to see you
take that night."
1352
00:57:46,922 --> 00:57:48,965
It's survival time, Bobby.
1353
00:57:49,007 --> 00:57:50,008
It's not fight time.
1354
00:57:50,050 --> 00:57:51,927
He is in survival mode.
1355
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,142
And it was almost like he said,
1356
00:57:59,184 --> 00:58:01,311
"I'm gonna take that punishment.
1357
00:58:01,353 --> 00:58:02,729
"I'm gonna make you all happy.
1358
00:58:02,771 --> 00:58:04,564
"Gonna make
all you freaking guys happy
1359
00:58:04,606 --> 00:58:06,042
"that hate me
because I was too fast,
1360
00:58:06,066 --> 00:58:07,567
"I was too slick.
1361
00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:12,239
"And you know what?
1362
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,883
"I'm gonna freaking
give you what you want.
1363
00:58:13,907 --> 00:58:16,409
"I'm gonna take the punishment
that you think I deserve,
1364
00:58:16,451 --> 00:58:18,078
that I should have took."
1365
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:19,579
And he took punishment.
1366
00:58:26,294 --> 00:58:28,296
Oh, he's really getting hurt now.
1367
00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:31,049
-Punch your way out!
Punch your way out!
1368
00:58:31,091 --> 00:58:32,467
He is getting hurt.
1369
00:58:32,509 --> 00:58:35,971
Hector -He proved
to me he's the macho man.
1370
00:58:36,429 --> 00:58:37,429
He took a pounding.
1371
00:58:37,597 --> 00:58:40,141
He took a pounding,
he stood there fighting.
1372
00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:41,935
Two words. All Chavez.
1373
00:58:41,977 --> 00:58:45,438
Camacho is just
taking a beating.
1374
00:58:46,648 --> 00:58:48,316
He had guts.
1375
00:59:07,794 --> 00:59:08,878
And then he lost.
1376
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,631
And then it just, it just
messed up his mind.
1377
00:59:11,673 --> 00:59:15,468
Macho time! Macho time!
1378
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:17,887
With the Chavez fight,
that's probably where
1379
00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:20,473
I got to see the main plot line
1380
00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:23,935
of what really was going on
with the, with the drugs.
1381
00:59:23,977 --> 00:59:25,395
Macho's addiction was so bad
1382
00:59:25,437 --> 00:59:27,814
that he would continue
to go back to Don King.
1383
00:59:27,856 --> 00:59:29,941
And Don King would,
you know, give
1384
00:59:29,983 --> 00:59:31,610
what he would call an advance,
1385
00:59:31,651 --> 00:59:33,570
and Macho was always
looking for advances.
1386
00:59:33,612 --> 00:59:35,322
Come on, put your
hands in the air!
1387
00:59:35,363 --> 00:59:36,489
Put your hands in the air!
1388
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:41,620
Camacho lived his life on the edge.
1389
00:59:42,954 --> 00:59:44,998
You just have
to believe that lifestyle
1390
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,043
and the abuse
that... what it causes,
1391
00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:51,129
it's got to diminish
any athlete.
1392
00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:54,382
He was involved in drugs.
1393
00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:57,177
Is he... is he ready?
Is he in shape?
1394
00:59:57,802 --> 01:00:01,014
There's always that cloud
above hanging over him.
1395
01:00:01,222 --> 01:00:03,642
- Hey, what time is it?
- Macho time.
1396
01:00:03,683 --> 01:00:06,478
- -Hey, man, you late.
- Yeah, I know.
1397
01:00:07,937 --> 01:00:09,373
You could have
everything in the world
1398
01:00:09,397 --> 01:00:11,024
and still have nothing.
1399
01:00:13,234 --> 01:00:14,736
And money does not
make you happy,
1400
01:00:14,778 --> 01:00:19,699
it only buys you time
to realize you're not happy.
1401
01:00:19,741 --> 01:00:22,243
And when a demon lives
inside you,
1402
01:00:22,285 --> 01:00:23,870
he doesn't leave.
1403
01:00:24,913 --> 01:00:27,415
Hey, the Mach, the Mach.
1404
01:00:27,457 --> 01:00:28,667
Smoothie, baby.
1405
01:00:28,708 --> 01:00:30,627
Look like a butterfly,
sting like a bee.
1406
01:00:30,669 --> 01:00:33,338
Yes, I want you to do it, baby.
Let them know what's happening.
1407
01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:35,507
Back to the same crowd.
1408
01:00:35,548 --> 01:00:37,759
Crowd come back,
this mess everything,
1409
01:00:37,801 --> 01:00:41,763
everything that Amy built
to change him, just to go back.
1410
01:00:46,726 --> 01:00:47,912
Macho did what he wanted,
1411
01:00:47,936 --> 01:00:51,356
how he wanted,
and when he wanted.
1412
01:00:51,398 --> 01:00:54,734
I was actually his enabler
for a very long time.
1413
01:00:54,776 --> 01:00:57,404
What I thought was good and
helping him and protecting him
1414
01:00:57,445 --> 01:00:59,614
was actually helping him do
1415
01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:01,908
what he was doing
and get away with it.
1416
01:01:02,325 --> 01:01:04,119
-Hector, who is this?
Tell me who is this?
1417
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,287
My son and my wife.
1418
01:01:06,329 --> 01:01:07,414
Who's this?
1419
01:01:07,455 --> 01:01:09,416
That's Justin. That's my son.
1420
01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:12,252
And I would tell him,
"If you're gonna do that,
1421
01:01:12,293 --> 01:01:14,963
don't do it around the kids.
Make sure you come home sober."
1422
01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:16,214
I didn't know any better.
1423
01:01:16,256 --> 01:01:17,549
Once I grew up, I realized
1424
01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:19,342
this, this,
it just wasn't for me
1425
01:01:19,384 --> 01:01:22,011
to be in that environment
like that, you know.
1426
01:01:22,053 --> 01:01:25,306
I can't have these kids
around this craziness.
1427
01:01:30,145 --> 01:01:31,563
And she fought.
1428
01:01:31,604 --> 01:01:34,983
She had done everything,
even left him.
1429
01:01:35,024 --> 01:01:38,069
Went back with him.
Helped him go to a rehab.
1430
01:01:38,111 --> 01:01:42,282
-I put him in a rehab.
We then had a wedding.
1431
01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:46,661
I did it just
to help him graduate.
1432
01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:49,748
I stood by his side
and I had his back,
1433
01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:52,083
but I knew Macho was never going
1434
01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:54,252
to stop doing what he was doing
1435
01:01:54,294 --> 01:01:57,547
because he blatantly said,
1436
01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:59,924
"I like it. I love it.
1437
01:01:59,966 --> 01:02:01,050
"You met me like this,
1438
01:02:01,092 --> 01:02:02,677
and I'm going
to stay like this."
1439
01:02:04,804 --> 01:02:06,639
He was running away from love.
1440
01:02:06,681 --> 01:02:08,349
He was running away from family.
1441
01:02:08,391 --> 01:02:11,227
He was always running away
1442
01:02:11,770 --> 01:02:15,190
because everything for him
was the streets.
1443
01:02:15,231 --> 01:02:17,150
He didn't want to give it up.
1444
01:02:18,234 --> 01:02:19,778
After the Chavez fight,
1445
01:02:19,819 --> 01:02:22,947
Macho's name kept getting
him big match-ups.
1446
01:02:24,532 --> 01:02:28,536
The outfits were the same,
but the storyline had changed.
1447
01:02:28,578 --> 01:02:32,582
He was just another boxer
trying to hang on to stardom.
1448
01:02:32,957 --> 01:02:37,086
Camacho did what fighters do,
continued to fight.
1449
01:02:37,128 --> 01:02:40,590
Middleweight
champion of the world,
1450
01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:44,344
Hector "Macho" Camacho!
1451
01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:48,890
He just refuses to let go.
1452
01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:50,725
I'm anxious to fight again.
1453
01:02:50,767 --> 01:02:52,018
I'm anxious to look good.
1454
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:56,147
Sleeping already, you know,
eating right, training.
1455
01:02:56,189 --> 01:02:59,651
Shadow box, jump rope,
hit the bag,
1456
01:02:59,692 --> 01:03:01,277
talk shit,
and that's how you do it.
1457
01:03:01,319 --> 01:03:03,404
Macho was 34 years old,
1458
01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:05,615
and Sugar Ray Leonard was 40,
1459
01:03:05,657 --> 01:03:07,325
coming out of another retirement
1460
01:03:07,367 --> 01:03:11,746
when they matched up
in 1997 in Atlantic City.
1461
01:03:11,788 --> 01:03:13,331
Sugar Ray Leonard.
1462
01:03:13,373 --> 01:03:15,542
He was fighting against Sugar Ray Leonard.
1463
01:03:15,583 --> 01:03:17,836
He had a great deal
of respect for Leonard.
1464
01:03:17,877 --> 01:03:20,004
Even we was all like,
"Oh my God,
1465
01:03:20,046 --> 01:03:21,440
you know, what's going
to happen here?"
1466
01:03:21,464 --> 01:03:23,224
Like, "Why did you take
this fight? That's...
1467
01:03:23,258 --> 01:03:25,051
You know, you idolize him
a little bit."
1468
01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:26,886
Camacho was the villain
in that fight.
1469
01:03:26,928 --> 01:03:30,223
He was definitely,
you know, the bad guy,
1470
01:03:30,265 --> 01:03:31,558
but he was supremely confident.
1471
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,810
Well, you know
he'd try his darnedest
1472
01:03:33,852 --> 01:03:36,312
to upstage Sugar Ray Leonard.
1473
01:03:36,354 --> 01:03:39,899
With Hector, we both naturally
were past our prime,
1474
01:03:39,941 --> 01:03:44,195
but I just felt
that I was a bigger man.
1475
01:03:44,237 --> 01:03:48,616
And I was. Smarter, stronger,
and all those kind of things.
1476
01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:52,453
Hector Camacho
feels that Sugar Ray Leonard
1477
01:03:52,495 --> 01:03:55,623
should not consider him
a safe opponent
1478
01:03:55,665 --> 01:03:58,251
for his first fight back.
1479
01:03:58,293 --> 01:04:00,962
Then the first time
he threw a punch,
1480
01:04:01,504 --> 01:04:03,464
he threw, pow!
1481
01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:04,757
And I said, "Wow, that hurt."
1482
01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:06,759
And that gives Camacho
1483
01:04:06,801 --> 01:04:08,261
loads of confidence.
1484
01:04:08,303 --> 01:04:10,221
And that was his redemption,
1485
01:04:10,263 --> 01:04:12,724
to prove he was tough.
To show that.
1486
01:04:12,765 --> 01:04:15,226
And I tried,
I tried the best that I could
1487
01:04:15,268 --> 01:04:17,103
to just go the distance.
1488
01:04:17,145 --> 01:04:18,539
Camacho has looked as good
1489
01:04:18,563 --> 01:04:22,066
as I've seen him look
in a long, long time.
1490
01:04:22,108 --> 01:04:25,862
Oh, good shot there by...
Leonard is down!
1491
01:04:25,904 --> 01:04:27,238
Camacho beating Leonard
1492
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,323
is downplayed by people
1493
01:04:28,364 --> 01:04:29,991
because obviously,
Ray was at the end.
1494
01:04:30,033 --> 01:04:31,468
Literally at the end,
his last fight.
1495
01:04:31,492 --> 01:04:33,077
Sugar Ray Leonard
having difficulties
1496
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:34,370
getting to his feet.
1497
01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:35,663
But beating Ray Leonard,
1498
01:04:35,705 --> 01:04:37,665
the way Camacho beat him,
was impressive.
1499
01:04:37,707 --> 01:04:40,168
-Camacho landing.
Cortez should stop it now.
1500
01:04:40,209 --> 01:04:44,672
It's time. There it is.
And it's all over.
1501
01:04:45,798 --> 01:04:47,526
There are those
who are gonna say,
1502
01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:48,801
"Hey, he was out for six years,
1503
01:04:48,843 --> 01:04:50,345
you should have
knocked him out."
1504
01:04:50,386 --> 01:04:52,013
What do you say about that?
1505
01:04:52,055 --> 01:04:53,056
There he is.
1506
01:04:53,097 --> 01:04:55,975
Great champion.
Two real gentlemen.
1507
01:04:57,060 --> 01:04:59,395
I remember him
coming over to me,
1508
01:04:59,437 --> 01:05:01,189
hugging me
and it was almost like
1509
01:05:01,230 --> 01:05:03,983
he was saying, "I'm sorry."
I think he did say I'm sorry.
1510
01:05:04,025 --> 01:05:05,652
I said, "Well,
you didn't show it."
1511
01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:08,071
I cried like a baby that night.
1512
01:05:08,112 --> 01:05:13,159
I knew at that moment
that it was over.
1513
01:05:14,202 --> 01:05:17,789
It was ironic that,
that the bad boy...
1514
01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:20,500
beat the golden boy.
1515
01:05:20,708 --> 01:05:22,377
I think God's a boxing fan.
1516
01:05:22,669 --> 01:05:26,214
And I think God said,
"I'm gonna give you this one.
1517
01:05:26,255 --> 01:05:30,009
"You earned the right
to have this night
1518
01:05:30,051 --> 01:05:33,179
before you go off to wherever
you're going off to."
1519
01:05:34,847 --> 01:05:36,641
The thing with fighters...
1520
01:05:37,141 --> 01:05:39,686
is that we reach the top
1521
01:05:39,727 --> 01:05:42,605
and then when our career
comes to an end,
1522
01:05:42,897 --> 01:05:47,026
we search for that.
"And the new cha..."
1523
01:05:47,402 --> 01:05:48,653
There's nothing greater...
1524
01:05:48,695 --> 01:05:50,863
There's no better words to hear.
1525
01:05:51,364 --> 01:05:54,450
I ca... I can't even
emphasize enough
1526
01:05:54,492 --> 01:05:56,327
what it means to us.
1527
01:05:56,369 --> 01:05:58,204
You beat the odds.
1528
01:05:58,246 --> 01:06:00,039
And when we don't
have that any longer,
1529
01:06:00,081 --> 01:06:02,542
we go for something else
that's going to try
1530
01:06:02,583 --> 01:06:03,876
to duplicate it
1531
01:06:03,918 --> 01:06:07,338
with the alcohol or drugs,
whatever the case may be.
1532
01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:11,009
I've been around Hector Camacho
1533
01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:12,677
when he was
doing this, doing that,
1534
01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:14,071
because I was doing
the same thing.
1535
01:06:14,095 --> 01:06:16,639
I mean, I was no different
than he was,
1536
01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:21,019
but I was able to pull back
and just stop.
1537
01:06:22,854 --> 01:06:24,731
Macho always believed
that his career
1538
01:06:24,772 --> 01:06:25,982
was going to continue,
1539
01:06:26,024 --> 01:06:29,152
and he got caught
in that tide and that rift.
1540
01:06:29,193 --> 01:06:33,281
So, his only companion
at that time was cocaine.
1541
01:06:33,698 --> 01:06:35,408
Let me replace a fight
with cocaine.
1542
01:06:35,450 --> 01:06:37,160
Let me hang out with cocaine.
1543
01:06:37,201 --> 01:06:38,202
Cocaine is there for me,
1544
01:06:38,244 --> 01:06:39,471
it's not going to disappoint me.
1545
01:06:39,495 --> 01:06:41,095
I don't have to call cocaine
20,000 times
1546
01:06:41,122 --> 01:06:43,541
and listen to a lie
and the contract's on the way.
1547
01:06:43,583 --> 01:06:45,084
I've got a fight,
I'm working on it.
1548
01:06:45,126 --> 01:06:47,545
And it was the only thing
that was consistent.
1549
01:06:47,587 --> 01:06:49,297
It never let him down.
1550
01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:54,343
Macho lived in despair
for many, many years,
1551
01:06:54,385 --> 01:06:57,138
uh, because of his addiction.
1552
01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:59,057
He says his wife showed up Friday,
1553
01:06:59,098 --> 01:07:01,934
and she began hitting on him
and throwing cups.
1554
01:07:01,976 --> 01:07:04,937
He says he knew better
than to fight back in any way.
1555
01:07:04,979 --> 01:07:06,481
So, I grabbed her, you know,
1556
01:07:06,522 --> 01:07:08,858
to try to calm her
down a little.
1557
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,693
Somebody saw that, reported it.
1558
01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:12,254
When sheriff's deputies
found out she was
1559
01:07:12,278 --> 01:07:14,697
two and a half months pregnant,
they charged Camacho
1560
01:07:14,739 --> 01:07:17,492
with aggravated assault
on a pregnant woman, a felony.
1561
01:07:17,533 --> 01:07:20,328
My wife, we love each other.
We are happy with each other.
1562
01:07:20,369 --> 01:07:22,371
We happy. We love each other.
1563
01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:24,916
I didn't want
to continue that lifestyle.
1564
01:07:24,957 --> 01:07:28,336
Like, always picking up
the pieces, cleaning up, lying.
1565
01:07:28,377 --> 01:07:32,965
So, I filed for the divorce.
He fought me to the very end.
1566
01:07:33,007 --> 01:07:36,552
He's like, "Don't do this.
You don't have to divorce me.
1567
01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:38,721
"You know, like, I'll...
I'll leave you alone
1568
01:07:38,763 --> 01:07:40,014
until you ready for me again."
1569
01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:41,974
And I said, "No, Macho,
we have to get divorced
1570
01:07:42,016 --> 01:07:43,810
because you don't
leave me alone."
1571
01:07:43,851 --> 01:07:46,104
In order to get him
to calm down, I go,
1572
01:07:46,145 --> 01:07:49,232
"Listen, how's about
when you're 50,
1573
01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:51,734
"we'll just...
we'll meet up again,
1574
01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:53,402
"we'll talk
and we see where we at.
1575
01:07:53,444 --> 01:07:54,838
Maybe then we could raise
the grandkids."
1576
01:07:54,862 --> 01:07:56,622
I went like that to him.
He goes, "All right.
1577
01:07:56,656 --> 01:07:58,241
I'll see you
when you're 50, right?"
1578
01:07:58,282 --> 01:08:01,035
And I said, "Yes.
See you when we 50."
1579
01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:03,579
Like, I could accept all his
flaws and all his mistakes
1580
01:08:03,621 --> 01:08:05,665
and all that because I knew
deep down inside
1581
01:08:05,706 --> 01:08:08,584
he was this great,
awesome person.
1582
01:08:08,626 --> 01:08:11,045
He just had issues, you know.
1583
01:08:11,087 --> 01:08:13,005
He had, he had an illness.
1584
01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:17,468
2010, when I saw him,
1585
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:20,596
he was really sad because
there was no spark to him.
1586
01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:21,764
We hugged and we talked.
1587
01:08:21,806 --> 01:08:24,517
He had a chance to do
Dancing with the Stars.
1588
01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,495
They had offered him to do
Dancing with the Stars,
1589
01:08:26,519 --> 01:08:29,147
the Spanish version,
Mira Quien Baila.
1590
01:08:29,188 --> 01:08:31,357
And I says,
"Why don't you do that?"
1591
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:32,817
And he goes,
1592
01:08:32,859 --> 01:08:34,443
I said, "No.
We're going to do this."
1593
01:08:34,485 --> 01:08:36,654
He was doing nothing but eating,
1594
01:08:36,696 --> 01:08:38,823
hanging out
with the wrong people.
1595
01:08:38,865 --> 01:08:40,950
So, he was really, really fat.
1596
01:08:40,992 --> 01:08:45,329
He had a belly, like if he was
gonna be having children.
1597
01:08:45,997 --> 01:08:48,749
From there on, we started again
1598
01:08:48,791 --> 01:08:51,669
trying to make him look good.
1599
01:08:57,008 --> 01:09:01,596
So, that started
the spark again in him.
1600
01:09:03,389 --> 01:09:06,142
The ratings were up
all the time.
1601
01:09:06,184 --> 01:09:07,977
Love is in the air.
1602
01:09:08,019 --> 01:09:09,520
Because the people love him.
1603
01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:13,941
Macho presenta los Macho News.
1604
01:09:13,983 --> 01:09:17,236
Me llama Macho for President.
1605
01:09:17,278 --> 01:09:20,031
And he was the first one
to get eliminated
1606
01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,326
in the competition, but they
had to bring him back...
1607
01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:37,089
At that time, I knew a promoter
1608
01:09:37,131 --> 01:09:38,466
who said he could put together
1609
01:09:38,507 --> 01:09:41,177
a Roy Jones Jr. fight
for him and Roy.
1610
01:09:41,219 --> 01:09:42,887
They were both at the end
of their career,
1611
01:09:42,929 --> 01:09:44,513
but Africa was willing
to pay them
1612
01:09:44,555 --> 01:09:45,932
$7 million apiece
1613
01:09:45,973 --> 01:09:47,683
to go do this in Tanzania.
1614
01:09:47,725 --> 01:09:49,227
Come on, champ.
1615
01:09:52,813 --> 01:09:54,190
And we took him from,
1616
01:09:54,232 --> 01:09:57,693
I'm telling you,
overweight, pot belly,
1617
01:09:57,735 --> 01:10:00,821
couldn't even walk up
this flight of stairs,
1618
01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:03,157
and we started
the next day with him.
1619
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:05,076
We started this rebuilding.
1620
01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:09,455
And he felt
that he could do this.
1621
01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:26,222
Midway into this, he comes in
1622
01:10:26,264 --> 01:10:27,616
and he goes,
"I got to talk to you."
1623
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,517
And I go,
"What's going on, champ?"
1624
01:10:29,558 --> 01:10:32,270
He goes,
"I can't do this fight."
1625
01:10:32,311 --> 01:10:34,563
He goes, "I appreciate
what you guys are doing,
1626
01:10:34,605 --> 01:10:36,524
"but I just want to get high.
1627
01:10:36,565 --> 01:10:38,484
I don't want to do this."
1628
01:10:39,193 --> 01:10:40,712
I said, "You know,
you're the greatest champion
1629
01:10:40,736 --> 01:10:42,738
to ever step in the ring."
He goes, "You know what?
1630
01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:46,659
I am a champion,
but I'm a junkie first."
1631
01:10:48,077 --> 01:10:50,037
He was broken.
1632
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:51,580
When I looked into his eyes,
1633
01:10:51,622 --> 01:10:54,500
I realized
there was nothing left.
1634
01:10:55,042 --> 01:10:57,003
And he had nowhere to go.
1635
01:10:57,878 --> 01:11:03,217
And he made the awful decision
to go back to Amy's.
1636
01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:07,430
He was on probation,
living in Tampa,
1637
01:11:07,471 --> 01:11:09,265
and he kept calling me all day.
1638
01:11:09,307 --> 01:11:10,516
And something seemed strange.
1639
01:11:10,558 --> 01:11:11,892
And I could hear in his voice
1640
01:11:11,934 --> 01:11:14,478
he wasn't sober.
1641
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,981
I was at work.
I called the house,
1642
01:11:17,023 --> 01:11:18,482
and the boys didn't answer
1643
01:11:18,524 --> 01:11:19,710
'cause I keep checking on them.
1644
01:11:19,734 --> 01:11:21,110
And so, I said,
"Let me go home."
1645
01:11:21,152 --> 01:11:22,820
I drove home. I looked inside.
1646
01:11:22,862 --> 01:11:24,488
I'm like, "Oh my God." Just...
1647
01:11:24,530 --> 01:11:26,574
The office was turned
upside down.
1648
01:11:26,615 --> 01:11:28,993
And I talked to,
to the little one, Tyler,
1649
01:11:29,035 --> 01:11:30,536
and he's like, "Mom,"
1650
01:11:30,578 --> 01:11:31,996
and he's telling me
what happened.
1651
01:11:32,038 --> 01:11:33,581
He's like, "Dad came in,
1652
01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:36,167
"and he's mad, and he pushed me.
1653
01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:37,626
And when he pushed me..."
1654
01:11:37,668 --> 01:11:40,963
Like, I guess he grabbed him
and pushed him,
1655
01:11:41,005 --> 01:11:42,548
but he hit the bed.
1656
01:11:42,590 --> 01:11:45,176
He didn't deliberately hurt him.
1657
01:11:45,593 --> 01:11:46,802
So, when the police came
1658
01:11:46,844 --> 01:11:48,655
because, you know,
everybody called the police,
1659
01:11:48,679 --> 01:11:49,972
the neighbors called the police,
1660
01:11:50,014 --> 01:11:51,807
they asked if we wanted
to press charges.
1661
01:11:51,849 --> 01:11:53,768
I said, "No, it's okay.
Don't worry about it.
1662
01:11:53,809 --> 01:11:55,269
We'll be fine."
1663
01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:57,980
But the state
picked up the case,
1664
01:11:58,022 --> 01:12:00,232
and they filed against him.
1665
01:12:01,025 --> 01:12:05,071
That really, like,
really teared them up apart.
1666
01:12:05,821 --> 01:12:07,406
He cried and...
1667
01:12:08,115 --> 01:12:09,992
that was
the first time, actually,
1668
01:12:10,034 --> 01:12:12,953
from a long time that we seen
him break down like that,
1669
01:12:12,995 --> 01:12:14,455
you know.
1670
01:12:14,497 --> 01:12:15,581
He was hurting.
1671
01:12:15,623 --> 01:12:18,042
This was already
his second, third felony.
1672
01:12:18,084 --> 01:12:20,795
He was looking at a lot
of time in prison.
1673
01:12:21,837 --> 01:12:24,757
And that's how he found
himself in Puerto Rico.
1674
01:12:24,799 --> 01:12:26,926
He was running from that.
1675
01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:31,764
Everything's
an adventure in my life.
1676
01:12:31,806 --> 01:12:34,475
When I go to sleep,
when I get up,
1677
01:12:34,517 --> 01:12:37,019
I live an adventurous life,
you know.
1678
01:12:37,061 --> 01:12:41,273
There's no minute in my life
that I'm not adventurous.
1679
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:45,111
I'm not stopping
and looking back.
1680
01:12:45,152 --> 01:12:48,739
It's just a great thrill,
you know, to be living.
1681
01:12:48,781 --> 01:12:51,826
Back in Bayamon,
Hector started hanging out
1682
01:12:51,867 --> 01:12:54,787
with a new girlfriend
and new friends.
1683
01:12:54,829 --> 01:12:59,125
It was 2012,
and he was now 50 years old.
1684
01:12:59,708 --> 01:13:01,502
So I went to Puerto Rico.
1685
01:13:01,544 --> 01:13:03,671
He got some friend.
They was no good.
1686
01:13:03,712 --> 01:13:05,089
It was Pasteles,
1687
01:13:05,131 --> 01:13:08,134
that's the one
who put my son like that.
1688
01:13:08,175 --> 01:13:10,469
Used to drive him a taxi.
1689
01:13:10,511 --> 01:13:12,888
Do things that
he not supposed to do.
1690
01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:15,224
We used to almost every night
1691
01:13:15,266 --> 01:13:18,018
jump in... in a taxi, go baile.
1692
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:20,604
Pasteles is
a taxi driver in Bayamon
1693
01:13:20,646 --> 01:13:24,024
who became friendly
with Camacho over the years.
1694
01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:37,830
This is crazy.
1695
01:13:37,872 --> 01:13:39,874
People work for him, Macho.
1696
01:13:39,915 --> 01:13:41,542
I told him.
1697
01:13:41,584 --> 01:13:43,377
I'm telling my father, "Pops,
1698
01:13:43,419 --> 01:13:45,546
"things are bad out here.
1699
01:13:45,588 --> 01:13:46,922
"Things are bad.
1700
01:13:46,964 --> 01:13:48,942
"You know, our generation,
they young kids in the street,
1701
01:13:48,966 --> 01:13:50,926
be careful out there."
"I'm the Macho Man."
1702
01:13:51,135 --> 01:13:54,388
"I understand, but it's crazy
and be careful."
1703
01:13:55,764 --> 01:13:56,974
Nothing to do.
1704
01:13:57,016 --> 01:14:00,519
Lonely. He's lonely. Just empty.
1705
01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:08,611
He said, "Mommy,
I got a new girlfriend."
1706
01:14:08,652 --> 01:14:11,197
I said, "Yeah? Let me see who."
1707
01:14:11,906 --> 01:14:14,033
When I see her, mm-mm.
1708
01:14:14,366 --> 01:14:17,828
I know they told me how she was.
1709
01:14:19,163 --> 01:14:20,623
Macho was always
one who would go
1710
01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:22,374
to a lot of strip clubs.
1711
01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:25,711
Cynthia was one of the girls
that he had linked with.
1712
01:14:25,753 --> 01:14:27,546
She was part of that entourage
1713
01:14:27,588 --> 01:14:29,173
with the strippers and that.
1714
01:14:29,215 --> 01:14:31,717
That's where he probably
even met Jamil.
1715
01:14:31,759 --> 01:14:33,594
He ran an escort service.
1716
01:14:33,636 --> 01:14:36,138
Cynthia was a part
of the escort services.
1717
01:14:36,430 --> 01:14:39,391
Somehow, Camacho
got connected with Cynthia
1718
01:14:39,433 --> 01:14:41,143
ergo connected with Jamil.
1719
01:14:41,185 --> 01:14:45,397
He had, he had a record,
drugs and firearms.
1720
01:14:47,983 --> 01:14:49,193
Not really.
1721
01:14:49,235 --> 01:14:50,486
- No?
- No.
1722
01:14:56,075 --> 01:14:58,285
The last two years alive,
1723
01:14:58,327 --> 01:14:59,537
almost every day me and him.
1724
01:14:59,578 --> 01:15:03,165
But when Jamil come around,
everything changed.
1725
01:15:03,207 --> 01:15:05,584
He just started
spiraling out of control.
1726
01:15:05,626 --> 01:15:06,835
There was no talking to him.
1727
01:15:06,877 --> 01:15:08,754
He looked different.
He behaved different.
1728
01:15:08,796 --> 01:15:11,090
You know, we found out
about this female,
1729
01:15:11,131 --> 01:15:13,634
um, who she was,
what she represent.
1730
01:15:13,676 --> 01:15:19,223
The fast life, drugs, alcohol, sex, jail,
1731
01:15:19,265 --> 01:15:22,184
and nothing good comes
from the fast life at all.
1732
01:15:22,226 --> 01:15:24,270
You go just as you come.
1733
01:15:24,311 --> 01:15:26,272
He was no longer...
1734
01:15:27,231 --> 01:15:28,649
the man that I knew.
1735
01:15:28,691 --> 01:15:31,485
And we were like,
"Get out of Puerto Rico, Macho.
1736
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:33,404
"Let's go hang out
in the neighborhood.
1737
01:15:33,612 --> 01:15:34,989
"My mother's going to cook.
1738
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:37,741
Come on, man, let's go back
to what we had."
1739
01:15:37,783 --> 01:15:40,077
We had more when we had nothing.
1740
01:15:46,041 --> 01:15:47,668
My mother was telling him
1741
01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:49,295
to get out of Puerto Rico.
1742
01:15:49,962 --> 01:15:51,064
And he goes, "You know what?
1743
01:15:51,088 --> 01:15:52,506
"I want to get out of here, man.
1744
01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:53,966
I really do."
1745
01:15:54,008 --> 01:15:56,468
But you can't
force someone to fight.
1746
01:15:56,510 --> 01:15:58,012
There was no stopping him.
1747
01:15:58,762 --> 01:15:59,972
Everybody told me,
1748
01:16:00,014 --> 01:16:02,182
you know you can
leave Macho alone.
1749
01:16:04,184 --> 01:16:06,520
I should not go,
leave Macho alone.
1750
01:16:06,562 --> 01:16:09,607
I never leave my son alone,
look what happened.
1751
01:16:10,941 --> 01:16:13,277
We were always lucky.
1752
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,654
We walked away
from a lot of things.
1753
01:16:15,696 --> 01:16:18,490
We just kept playing
Russian roulette
1754
01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:19,617
to the end,
1755
01:16:19,658 --> 01:16:21,744
but the problem is
he kept adding
1756
01:16:21,785 --> 01:16:24,121
another bullet to the chamber.
1757
01:16:27,249 --> 01:16:30,711
The Tuesday
before Thanksgiving, 2012,
1758
01:16:30,753 --> 01:16:34,089
Camacho was home with Cynthia,
his new girlfriend,
1759
01:16:34,131 --> 01:16:37,384
when his friend Jamil
came over for a visit.
1760
01:16:37,426 --> 01:16:40,512
He was chilling with the girl,
looking at TV.
1761
01:16:40,554 --> 01:16:44,058
This guy came and told them all,
come on, let's take a ride,
1762
01:16:44,099 --> 01:16:46,977
take a ride with me somewhere,
take a ride with me somewhere.
1763
01:16:50,064 --> 01:16:52,858
It was dark. I want to say
it was seven-ish.
1764
01:16:55,653 --> 01:16:58,030
The initial report was
it was a car parked
1765
01:16:58,072 --> 01:17:01,158
at a strip mall in Bayamon.
1766
01:17:03,911 --> 01:17:07,206
He was in the car
looking at his phone.
1767
01:17:10,334 --> 01:17:12,461
Shots are fired...
1768
01:17:12,503 --> 01:17:14,522
and then a guy is seen
running, getting into a car,
1769
01:17:14,546 --> 01:17:18,092
and leaving in the direction
towards Catano.
1770
01:17:18,926 --> 01:17:21,804
One guy is found dead
behind the car,
1771
01:17:22,304 --> 01:17:25,724
and the other one is inside
in the passenger seat wounded.
1772
01:17:25,766 --> 01:17:27,142
In that case, it was Camacho.
1773
01:17:35,734 --> 01:17:38,320
Hector called me
and tell me, "Titi
1774
01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:41,448
you standing?"
And I said, "What happened?"
1775
01:17:41,490 --> 01:17:44,451
"Titi, put the TV on." "Why?"
1776
01:17:44,493 --> 01:17:47,579
"Put the TV on,
they just killed my father."
1777
01:17:48,247 --> 01:17:49,873
I dropped the phone...
1778
01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:52,501
and that's it.
1779
01:17:52,543 --> 01:17:54,378
The family of the boxing great
1780
01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:55,629
Hector "Macho" Camacho
1781
01:17:55,671 --> 01:17:57,589
is with him by his side tonight
1782
01:17:57,631 --> 01:17:59,383
in a Puerto Rico hospital
1783
01:17:59,425 --> 01:18:02,010
the day after doctors there
declared him brain dead.
1784
01:18:02,052 --> 01:18:03,429
Hector "Macho" Camacho
1785
01:18:03,470 --> 01:18:06,724
passed away this morning
at a hospital in Puerto Rico
1786
01:18:06,765 --> 01:18:08,350
after his family made
the decision
1787
01:18:08,392 --> 01:18:10,561
to remove him from life support.
1788
01:18:10,602 --> 01:18:12,938
Camacho was 50 years old.
1789
01:18:13,272 --> 01:18:16,608
It's like they rip
something off, like rip.
1790
01:18:22,114 --> 01:18:23,490
Yeah.
1791
01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:39,298
We stayed three days
in Puerto Rico.
1792
01:18:41,091 --> 01:18:42,718
It was line to line.
1793
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,471
You know, like, he was so loved.
1794
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,684
And we brought him over here
in New York for his people.
1795
01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,979
We share him.
1796
01:18:55,230 --> 01:18:58,400
I got a call that,
uh, Hector had died
1797
01:18:58,442 --> 01:19:01,945
and that his mom wanted me
to do his funeral.
1798
01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:05,324
And it really was
quite something.
1799
01:19:06,784 --> 01:19:08,827
Thousands of people
filled the streets
1800
01:19:08,869 --> 01:19:11,455
of Spanish Harlem
to mourn his death
1801
01:19:11,497 --> 01:19:13,207
and celebrate his life.
1802
01:19:13,248 --> 01:19:15,334
Macho! Macho!
1803
01:19:15,375 --> 01:19:17,795
You could see, like, the panorama
1804
01:19:17,836 --> 01:19:19,797
of his life out there.
1805
01:19:20,047 --> 01:19:22,508
What time is it? Macho time!
1806
01:19:22,549 --> 01:19:25,427
Macho!
1807
01:19:25,469 --> 01:19:29,264
He-he's part of us,
you know, he's our pride.
1808
01:19:29,598 --> 01:19:31,391
When you mention Camacho,
1809
01:19:31,433 --> 01:19:34,228
you mention
Spanish Harlem, el Barrio.
1810
01:19:34,269 --> 01:19:38,065
To us, he was
the Muhammad Ali in Puerto Rico.
1811
01:19:38,106 --> 01:19:39,942
And even though their bodies
1812
01:19:39,983 --> 01:19:41,109
lie in the Earth,
1813
01:19:41,151 --> 01:19:44,780
they trust that they,
like you, will rise again.
1814
01:19:44,822 --> 01:19:48,158
But when I gave
my homily at the mass,
1815
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,285
I was criticized
because they said
1816
01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:52,371
I never mentioned how he died.
1817
01:19:52,663 --> 01:19:55,874
And my response was,
everyone knew how he died.
1818
01:19:55,916 --> 01:19:57,251
He was shot.
1819
01:19:57,292 --> 01:19:59,586
Why he was shot? I don't know.
1820
01:19:59,628 --> 01:20:01,880
What he was involved in?
I don't know.
1821
01:20:01,922 --> 01:20:04,550
Some might make him a victim,
1822
01:20:04,591 --> 01:20:06,301
and some might
make him a villain.
1823
01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:11,890
And I think that's what caused
1824
01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:14,685
a lot of the pain
around his death.
1825
01:20:14,726 --> 01:20:18,313
Such a talented person
coming out of East Harlem
1826
01:20:18,355 --> 01:20:20,065
dying the way he did.
1827
01:20:21,483 --> 01:20:22,484
What did happen?
1828
01:20:22,526 --> 01:20:23,902
And may he rest in peace.
1829
01:20:23,944 --> 01:20:27,698
Amen!
1830
01:20:37,291 --> 01:20:39,960
She haven't been
the same since Macho died.
1831
01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:43,547
It's like, the pain
is killing her.
1832
01:20:44,590 --> 01:20:46,133
That's all she talks about,
1833
01:20:46,174 --> 01:20:49,720
and to this day
she talks about it.
1834
01:20:49,761 --> 01:20:51,597
She talks about her son.
1835
01:20:51,638 --> 01:20:53,557
She wants to know
who killed her son,
1836
01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:56,518
and she don't want to do nothing
until she finds out
1837
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:57,769
who killed her son.
1838
01:20:58,145 --> 01:21:01,273
You know. And that's the mission
that she's going for.
1839
01:21:01,315 --> 01:21:02,649
And she's not going
to stay still
1840
01:21:02,691 --> 01:21:05,569
until she finds out
who killed her son.
1841
01:22:12,970 --> 01:22:15,847
I wanted to walk away from it,
but coming back,
1842
01:22:16,348 --> 01:22:18,642
feeling, seeing the place
1843
01:22:18,684 --> 01:22:20,560
where, you know,
he got shot at...
1844
01:22:21,186 --> 01:22:23,689
doesn't add up right,
doesn't seem right.
1845
01:22:25,023 --> 01:22:26,733
Gives you more questions.
1846
01:22:27,901 --> 01:22:29,861
It's a busy neighborhood.
It's busy
1847
01:22:29,903 --> 01:22:32,072
on the main streets in Bayamon.
1848
01:22:32,531 --> 01:22:33,865
And nobody know nothing.
1849
01:22:33,907 --> 01:22:36,243
Or nobody seen nothing.
Unbelievable.
1850
01:22:41,832 --> 01:22:43,709
Think about seven years ago.
1851
01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:49,172
My family, my grandmother,
we need closure.
1852
01:22:53,218 --> 01:22:55,387
In the days
and weeks after the shooting,
1853
01:22:55,429 --> 01:22:59,016
a number of theories
about what happened emerged.
1854
01:22:59,808 --> 01:23:03,437
One was simply that Camacho
was in the wrong place
1855
01:23:03,478 --> 01:23:06,606
at the wrong time
with the wrong friend.
1856
01:23:10,777 --> 01:23:13,113
I was called
to cover the, the shooting.
1857
01:23:15,490 --> 01:23:18,243
I remember that
the first versions
1858
01:23:18,285 --> 01:23:19,619
that I heard when I arrived.
1859
01:23:19,661 --> 01:23:22,831
That the people that shoot
were looking for his friend.
1860
01:23:33,925 --> 01:23:35,469
They knew he had money,
1861
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:38,597
but then Macho was
in the car at the time.
1862
01:23:38,638 --> 01:23:41,475
So they went to shoot
this guy and kill him,
1863
01:23:41,516 --> 01:23:43,703
but they didn't realize there
was another person in the car.
1864
01:23:43,727 --> 01:23:47,647
And when they did,
they shot him. Witness.
1865
01:23:47,898 --> 01:23:50,067
But the streets say
something else.
1866
01:23:51,818 --> 01:23:55,322
Your father, you know,
was... wasn't too liked
1867
01:23:55,363 --> 01:23:57,491
towards the end of his times.
1868
01:23:57,532 --> 01:23:58,950
So another possibility
1869
01:23:58,992 --> 01:24:01,828
was that Camacho himself
was the target.
1870
01:24:15,675 --> 01:24:18,845
Catano is a town
next to Bayamon,
1871
01:24:18,887 --> 01:24:20,472
well-known as a criminal hub
1872
01:24:20,514 --> 01:24:23,809
for the drug trade
in Puerto Rico.
1873
01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:27,354
In Catano, there
was a police interception
1874
01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:28,855
of a car, a traffic stop.
1875
01:24:28,897 --> 01:24:31,608
The car would resemble
the vehicle
1876
01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:35,153
that was seen leaving
the scene of the shooting.
1877
01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:37,114
But at that time,
1878
01:24:37,155 --> 01:24:39,407
the officer that stopped them
were not aware.
1879
01:24:39,449 --> 01:24:41,409
The car stopped,
the guy comes out,
1880
01:24:41,451 --> 01:24:42,661
they give the ID,
1881
01:24:42,702 --> 01:24:44,704
and the police officer's
checking the car.
1882
01:24:44,746 --> 01:24:48,083
And then all of a sudden,
the guy takes off in the car.
1883
01:24:48,125 --> 01:24:50,418
So they chase him...
1884
01:24:50,460 --> 01:24:53,130
and then the chase ended
in public housing.
1885
01:24:53,171 --> 01:24:54,506
They, they lost him.
1886
01:25:17,112 --> 01:25:18,780
There were eye witnesses
1887
01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:23,410
that slowly, slowly started
to come through.
1888
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:27,247
But none of them
could ID the person.
1889
01:25:30,458 --> 01:25:32,669
Do you think
that they were the ones?
1890
01:25:32,961 --> 01:25:34,713
- I believe, yeah.
- Yeah?
1891
01:25:34,754 --> 01:25:37,674
- I believe that was the one.
- Yeah?
1892
01:25:37,716 --> 01:25:38,800
Hell yeah.
1893
01:25:48,018 --> 01:25:49,561
Another possible motive
1894
01:25:49,603 --> 01:25:51,855
revolved around
an insurance policy
1895
01:25:51,897 --> 01:25:55,150
collected by Jamil's widow,
Eida Santana.
1896
01:25:55,192 --> 01:25:57,819
Eida Santana put the hit
1897
01:25:57,861 --> 01:25:59,905
on him to collect the insurance.
1898
01:25:59,946 --> 01:26:02,115
Actually, at one point,
I believe that she paid
1899
01:26:02,157 --> 01:26:05,368
the, the late payments
on the insurance policy
1900
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:08,205
because it was late
and they were going to cancel.
1901
01:26:08,246 --> 01:26:09,789
Santana was interviewed.
1902
01:26:09,831 --> 01:26:13,919
She gave brief statements
and upon advice from counsel,
1903
01:26:14,211 --> 01:26:15,837
it would not go further.
1904
01:26:33,980 --> 01:26:37,442
And there's been
all kinds of retaliation
1905
01:26:37,484 --> 01:26:38,902
against people that go in.
1906
01:26:38,944 --> 01:26:40,528
People die
because they all witness.
1907
01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:42,864
You may have the best subjects
in the world,
1908
01:26:42,906 --> 01:26:44,091
but the evidence is not enough,
1909
01:26:44,115 --> 01:26:46,368
and the prosecutors will not go.
1910
01:26:46,409 --> 01:26:48,286
The police doesn't have the resources
1911
01:26:48,328 --> 01:26:49,412
to do investigations.
1912
01:26:49,454 --> 01:26:50,914
They don't have
the intelligence,
1913
01:26:50,956 --> 01:26:54,042
and they don't do
the investigations properly.
1914
01:26:54,084 --> 01:26:56,920
The truth is
it's anything but uncommon
1915
01:26:56,962 --> 01:26:59,297
for a murder to remain unsolved
1916
01:26:59,339 --> 01:27:00,882
in Puerto Rico.
1917
01:27:00,924 --> 01:27:02,676
Even though as a territory,
1918
01:27:02,717 --> 01:27:04,594
it has the second largest
police force
1919
01:27:04,636 --> 01:27:05,845
in the United States,
1920
01:27:05,887 --> 01:27:07,639
second only to New York City,
1921
01:27:07,681 --> 01:27:11,142
just 23 percent of crimes
committed on the island
1922
01:27:11,184 --> 01:27:13,144
ever get solved.
1923
01:27:14,729 --> 01:27:17,274
I ended up going
to the Bayamon police
1924
01:27:17,315 --> 01:27:18,400
half a dozen times
1925
01:27:18,441 --> 01:27:20,610
during my trips to Puerto Rico.
1926
01:27:20,652 --> 01:27:23,613
Then I figured
I'd try something different.
1927
01:27:23,655 --> 01:27:25,448
I got a contact at the FBI
1928
01:27:25,490 --> 01:27:28,910
and went to the Bureau's
local headquarters in San Juan.
1929
01:27:29,202 --> 01:27:32,539
I'm here to see Agent Leff,
Doug Leff.
1930
01:27:33,123 --> 01:27:35,041
What are some of the obstacles
1931
01:27:35,083 --> 01:27:37,627
just generally in Puerto Rico
1932
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:39,212
with solving homicides?
1933
01:27:39,254 --> 01:27:41,506
Well, the homicide rate itself
1934
01:27:41,548 --> 01:27:43,925
is at a level here
that's comparable
1935
01:27:43,967 --> 01:27:45,802
with countries in South America.
1936
01:27:45,844 --> 01:27:47,429
It's, it's a very high rate.
1937
01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:50,473
One of the biggest issues
is witnesses coming forward.
1938
01:27:50,515 --> 01:27:52,743
I mean, there's a lot of fear.
It's a small jurisdiction.
1939
01:27:52,767 --> 01:27:55,228
So you can imagine that
a lot of people are afraid.
1940
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:57,689
So a lot of it is trying
to get the public
1941
01:27:57,731 --> 01:28:00,442
to trust that
they will be protected
1942
01:28:00,483 --> 01:28:03,194
and that they will be safe if
they bring information forward.
1943
01:28:03,236 --> 01:28:05,739
What would it take for the FBI
1944
01:28:05,780 --> 01:28:07,866
to get involved in this case?
1945
01:28:08,116 --> 01:28:09,451
Only as with any other case,
1946
01:28:09,492 --> 01:28:12,245
just a request from our state
and local partner,
1947
01:28:12,287 --> 01:28:14,581
and we'll come forward
with every resource
1948
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:15,915
at our disposal.
1949
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,736
After all the years
of frustration,
1950
01:28:44,778 --> 01:28:46,905
in November of 2019,
1951
01:28:46,946 --> 01:28:51,117
Maria finally got a call
to come down to Puerto Rico.
1952
01:28:52,410 --> 01:28:53,453
Let's go.
1953
01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:55,038
They call me, say,
1954
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,582
"Maria, we'd like you
to be here."
1955
01:28:57,624 --> 01:29:00,293
He got something
over in Puerto Rico,
1956
01:29:00,585 --> 01:29:02,087
but they're not telling me.
1957
01:29:03,922 --> 01:29:06,091
He would like me
to be over there
1958
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,302
so he can explain
everything to me,
1959
01:29:09,344 --> 01:29:12,263
but on telephone, he want
to explain nothing.
1960
01:29:13,348 --> 01:29:15,934
I said, don't worry.
I'll be there.
1961
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,481
I'm going to the police now.
1962
01:29:32,367 --> 01:29:34,285
I got appointment with them.
1963
01:29:34,327 --> 01:29:36,079
The case Maria was finding out
1964
01:29:36,121 --> 01:29:39,416
had finally been transferred
from the local Bayamon precinct
1965
01:29:39,457 --> 01:29:41,918
to police headquarters
in San Juan,
1966
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,922
where a new detective
was now working with the FBI.
1967
01:30:01,396 --> 01:30:03,481
Uh-huh.
1968
01:30:11,865 --> 01:30:13,283
Si.
1969
01:30:22,083 --> 01:30:23,877
Mm-hmm.
1970
01:30:36,598 --> 01:30:38,475
Mm-hmm.
1971
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,355
Si, senor.
1972
01:30:46,691 --> 01:30:47,942
They told me they got him.
1973
01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:02,165
They got him.
1974
01:31:03,875 --> 01:31:06,336
Oh Lord, you're so good.
1975
01:31:06,377 --> 01:31:08,213
Thank you, dear Lord.
1976
01:31:09,130 --> 01:31:12,091
Woo! I'm so happy.
1977
01:31:12,133 --> 01:31:13,718
Now I can sleep.
1978
01:31:38,785 --> 01:31:41,496
Maria may finally have closure,
1979
01:31:41,538 --> 01:31:43,623
but I'm not sure that
anyone will ever know
1980
01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,876
all the facts
surrounding Macho's death.
1981
01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:58,012
But New Yorkers,
boxing fans around the world,
1982
01:31:58,054 --> 01:32:01,558
and especially the people
of Spanish Harlem
1983
01:32:01,599 --> 01:32:05,228
will never forget
the hero of these streets,
1984
01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:07,647
Hector "Macho" Camacho.
1985
01:32:07,689 --> 01:32:09,566
The great
American dream, you know,
1986
01:32:09,607 --> 01:32:11,859
to take a kid
from Spanish Harlem
1987
01:32:11,901 --> 01:32:14,404
and get on top of the world.
1988
01:32:14,445 --> 01:32:15,947
He was the first window in my life
1989
01:32:15,989 --> 01:32:17,782
to know that any dream
is possible,
1990
01:32:17,824 --> 01:32:19,576
as long as you go for it.
1991
01:32:19,617 --> 01:32:20,702
And he went for it.
1992
01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:23,121
He was representing
Spanish Harlem,
1993
01:32:23,371 --> 01:32:24,330
where he's from.
1994
01:32:24,372 --> 01:32:26,124
He never forgot.
1995
01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:29,752
There'll never be another "Macho" Camacho.
1996
01:32:32,255 --> 01:32:34,465
I wish I could hear his voice
one last time, man.
1997
01:32:34,507 --> 01:32:35,508
How I wish.
1998
01:32:35,550 --> 01:32:37,093
Macho,
looking back at your career
1999
01:32:37,135 --> 01:32:39,512
and where you are right now,
are you satisfied?
2000
01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:41,097
Yes, I'm satisfied,
2001
01:32:41,139 --> 01:32:42,515
because I am a boxer.
2002
01:32:42,557 --> 01:32:44,809
I was meant to be
what I'm doing.
2003
01:32:45,435 --> 01:32:48,313
I lived that dream every day.
2004
01:32:48,813 --> 01:32:50,874
You think they'll ever
do a movie about you?
2005
01:32:50,898 --> 01:32:52,483
They better!
2006
01:32:52,609 --> 01:32:54,611
- What time is it?
- -Macho time!
2007
01:32:54,861 --> 01:32:57,363
What time is it? - -Macho time!
2008
01:33:20,011 --> 01:33:21,095
Excuse me.
2009
01:33:21,137 --> 01:33:23,890
Do you know a driver
named Pasteles?
2010
01:33:28,394 --> 01:33:30,074
He doesn't want to be recorded.
2011
01:33:33,316 --> 01:33:36,069
- He say he died.
- He said he died?
2012
01:33:37,654 --> 01:33:39,364
Oh my God!
2013
01:33:56,547 --> 01:33:57,965
That's it.
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