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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:16,892 --> 00:00:18,852 I've been around the boxing world 3 00:00:18,894 --> 00:00:20,103 for a long time, 4 00:00:20,145 --> 00:00:22,773 as an agent and then a filmmaker. 5 00:00:27,778 --> 00:00:30,614 And I've told a lot of stories about the sport 6 00:00:30,655 --> 00:00:32,741 and its great characters. 7 00:00:51,635 --> 00:00:54,304 - Hello, how are you? - Hi. 8 00:00:56,431 --> 00:00:58,475 Okay, sweetheart. 9 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:04,648 Out of all the fighters I've known, 10 00:01:04,689 --> 00:01:09,027 none were as unforgettable as Hector "Macho" Camacho. 11 00:01:17,410 --> 00:01:20,122 He was seven years... seven years. 12 00:01:20,163 --> 00:01:21,206 He was a little boy. 13 00:01:21,248 --> 00:01:23,500 "Mommy, I'm going to be boxer, Mommy. 14 00:01:24,709 --> 00:01:25,919 "You'll have everything, 15 00:01:25,961 --> 00:01:27,712 "I'm going to buy you everything, Mommy. 16 00:01:27,754 --> 00:01:30,799 "I'm going to buy you a house, I'm going to buy a car, 17 00:01:30,841 --> 00:01:32,968 and you are going to be special." 18 00:01:34,511 --> 00:01:37,889 I said, "Oh no, my son not gonna be boxing. 19 00:01:37,931 --> 00:01:40,684 Oh no, you touch my son, I'll kill you." 20 00:01:42,727 --> 00:01:44,312 Let's go. 21 00:01:45,897 --> 00:01:47,983 He was a very good son. 22 00:01:48,024 --> 00:01:49,860 Everything I asked him, 23 00:01:49,901 --> 00:01:51,278 "Don't worry, Mommy. I got you. 24 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:52,696 I got you, Mommy." 25 00:02:02,831 --> 00:02:05,500 Anything I need, Macho was there. 26 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:13,341 Introducing in the blue corner, 27 00:02:13,383 --> 00:02:15,343 fighting out of New York City, New York, 28 00:02:15,385 --> 00:02:18,680 ladies and gentlemen, here is the very colorful 29 00:02:18,722 --> 00:02:21,600 Hector "Macho" Camacho! 30 00:02:21,641 --> 00:02:23,852 He looks like a young child, 31 00:02:23,894 --> 00:02:25,687 he's bubbly, he smiles a lot, 32 00:02:25,729 --> 00:02:28,398 and he'll knock your head off if you're not careful. 33 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,317 Macho was the kind of boxer 34 00:02:30,358 --> 00:02:31,776 you never wanted to miss fight. 35 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:33,904 I don't think I've seen such a bundle 36 00:02:33,945 --> 00:02:35,405 of energy and talent 37 00:02:35,447 --> 00:02:38,617 and sheer nerves since Muhammad Ali. 38 00:02:38,658 --> 00:02:40,035 He was the kind of star 39 00:02:40,076 --> 00:02:42,204 who never seemed to run out of surprises. 40 00:02:42,245 --> 00:02:44,164 Hector -And I'm pound for pound, the best... 41 00:02:44,206 --> 00:02:47,125 I'm the best fighter pound for pound in the world! 42 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:48,376 Bring 'em on! 43 00:02:48,418 --> 00:02:50,462 Bring 'em on! Bring 'em on! 44 00:02:50,503 --> 00:02:51,963 He was a tremendous fighter. 45 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:52,964 Tremendous talent. 46 00:02:53,006 --> 00:02:55,091 He's just truly amazing. 47 00:02:55,133 --> 00:02:56,343 He seems to have it all. 48 00:02:56,384 --> 00:02:58,345 And he has the flair for the dramatic. 49 00:02:58,386 --> 00:02:59,512 He was a pioneer. 50 00:02:59,554 --> 00:03:00,931 Are you gonna wear the same thing 51 00:03:00,972 --> 00:03:02,015 into the ring again? 52 00:03:02,057 --> 00:03:02,891 Come on, man. 53 00:03:02,933 --> 00:03:04,059 It's never the same thing. 54 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:05,644 Never the same thing. 55 00:03:06,269 --> 00:03:12,108 But boxing sometimes can be too damn Shakespearean. 56 00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:14,861 It's got its beautiful stories, 57 00:03:14,903 --> 00:03:18,114 but it's got its share of sad ones, too. 58 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:20,825 Hector's mother, Maria! 59 00:03:22,452 --> 00:03:24,496 Here from New York. 60 00:03:24,537 --> 00:03:26,122 You take a kid like this 61 00:03:26,164 --> 00:03:27,475 that comes from where he came from, 62 00:03:27,499 --> 00:03:30,377 and he gets to the pinnacle of success 63 00:03:30,418 --> 00:03:31,544 in a tough world. 64 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:33,838 One of the toughest businesses there are. 65 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:37,467 Fighting! And he gets to the top. 66 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:39,386 And then they go over! 67 00:03:39,427 --> 00:03:42,180 Hector Camacho! 68 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:48,478 But at the end, 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,274 it's almost like the tragedy had to be. 70 00:03:55,568 --> 00:03:57,279 It's too bad. 71 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,114 Hector "Macho" Camacho 72 00:03:59,155 --> 00:04:00,198 passed away this morning 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,617 at a hospital in Puerto Rico. 74 00:04:02,659 --> 00:04:04,202 Camacho and a friend were shot 75 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:06,121 earlier this week as they sat in a car 76 00:04:06,162 --> 00:04:07,831 outside a liquor store. 77 00:04:08,999 --> 00:04:10,166 The gunman got away, 78 00:04:10,208 --> 00:04:11,876 and the motive is not known. 79 00:04:16,006 --> 00:04:17,590 Hector "Macho" Camacho 80 00:04:17,632 --> 00:04:19,509 was 50 years old. 81 00:04:22,053 --> 00:04:24,848 Seven years are gone already. 82 00:04:28,768 --> 00:04:30,312 They killed my baby. 83 00:04:30,729 --> 00:04:33,815 They no find nobody who killed Macho. 84 00:04:33,857 --> 00:04:35,650 Who killed Macho? 85 00:04:40,655 --> 00:04:42,532 Who killed my son? 86 00:04:43,116 --> 00:04:44,617 Like boxing itself, 87 00:04:44,659 --> 00:04:47,871 the story of Hector Camacho isn't simple. 88 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:50,623 But to understand the confusion 89 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:51,791 around his death, 90 00:04:51,833 --> 00:04:53,251 you need to first understand 91 00:04:53,293 --> 00:04:56,087 the improbability of his life. 92 00:04:57,088 --> 00:04:58,965 In aviation, we're taught that there are 93 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:01,343 a chain of events that create an accident. 94 00:05:01,676 --> 00:05:05,180 The bullet that killed Macho in Puerto Rico... 95 00:05:07,098 --> 00:05:09,684 started its journey many years ago. 96 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:13,104 I came from the street. 97 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:16,274 I had all my hopes in it from head to toe. 98 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:19,027 I got my mother a house. I got cars forever. 99 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:21,237 Well known, well loved. 100 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,448 I'm making it for the people that never made it. 101 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:26,576 I'm making it for people that ain't gonna make it. 102 00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:30,080 Macho time! 103 00:05:30,121 --> 00:05:32,415 Will you say to me, ten years from now, 104 00:05:32,457 --> 00:05:34,501 - it's worth the risk? - It's worth the risk. 105 00:05:34,542 --> 00:05:36,127 Every bit of it. 106 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:54,729 In the 1970s and '80s, 107 00:05:54,771 --> 00:05:56,773 the center of the boxing universe 108 00:05:56,815 --> 00:05:58,316 was West 33rd Street, 109 00:05:58,358 --> 00:05:59,984 between 7th and 8th Avenues 110 00:06:00,026 --> 00:06:01,111 in New York City, 111 00:06:01,152 --> 00:06:03,113 Madison Square Garden. 112 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:05,865 -And here we go. Paul DeVorce in the gold, 113 00:06:05,907 --> 00:06:09,452 Hector Camacho in the blue, 118 pound open. 114 00:06:09,494 --> 00:06:11,413 And for any aspiring fighter, 115 00:06:11,454 --> 00:06:13,790 there was no tougher baptism by fire 116 00:06:13,832 --> 00:06:15,708 than the Golden Gloves Championships. 117 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:18,837 Macho does not stand in one place too long. 118 00:06:18,878 --> 00:06:21,756 Goes in, takes a shot, and gets out of there. 119 00:06:21,798 --> 00:06:24,634 Randy -I used to go to all the Golden Glove fights. 120 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,973 And I saw this kid, this speedy little kid, 121 00:06:30,014 --> 00:06:32,684 and I'm like, "Oh my God, who is this?" 122 00:06:34,102 --> 00:06:35,145 And the more he fought, 123 00:06:35,186 --> 00:06:36,980 the more I fell in love with him. 124 00:06:38,022 --> 00:06:39,482 Macho's a smart fighter. 125 00:06:39,524 --> 00:06:41,025 He was a southpaw, 126 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:42,402 which gave him an advantage. 127 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:44,696 Left hand by Camacho. 128 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:46,781 But his hand speed was fantastic. 129 00:06:46,823 --> 00:06:49,951 So, right away, I sensed this was a special kid. 130 00:06:49,993 --> 00:06:51,244 That's it. 131 00:06:51,286 --> 00:06:52,662 That's the end of the bout. 132 00:06:52,704 --> 00:06:56,749 The 118 pound open champion, 133 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:58,251 Camacho! 134 00:06:58,293 --> 00:07:01,129 Hector Camacho from Spanish Harlem. 135 00:07:03,381 --> 00:07:05,967 Spanish Harlem is about 80 blocks north 136 00:07:06,009 --> 00:07:07,844 of Madison Square Garden. 137 00:07:07,886 --> 00:07:09,179 Its history as the center 138 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:11,181 of New York's Puerto Rican population 139 00:07:11,222 --> 00:07:14,100 dates back to the 1940s and '50s, 140 00:07:14,142 --> 00:07:16,728 when people from the island brought their music, 141 00:07:16,769 --> 00:07:19,147 their food, and their infectious energy 142 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:22,317 to carve out a neighborhood bursting with life. 143 00:07:24,277 --> 00:07:26,571 We came from Puerto Rico straight to New York. 144 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:29,365 I was five, Hector was four. 145 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:32,952 We were close, brothers and sisters 146 00:07:32,994 --> 00:07:34,704 raised in The Projects. 147 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:38,100 We used to do a lot 148 00:07:38,124 --> 00:07:41,211 of crazy things in the house, play around or play karate. 149 00:07:41,252 --> 00:07:42,712 That was Macho's favorite, 150 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:45,089 karate, 'cause Bruce Lee was his idol. 151 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:48,176 He used to break my mother's broom and mop 152 00:07:48,218 --> 00:07:49,469 to make. 153 00:07:49,511 --> 00:07:50,720 You know, karate? 154 00:07:50,762 --> 00:07:53,097 We didn't have no broom 'cause that's what he used to do. 155 00:07:53,139 --> 00:07:55,350 He like, he likes to fight. 156 00:07:55,391 --> 00:07:57,268 That was his stuff, he used to like to fight. 157 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:59,521 People used to call me Little Man 158 00:07:59,562 --> 00:08:00,772 around the street. 159 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:03,816 I was always looking for excitement to fight 160 00:08:03,858 --> 00:08:06,069 and all of us in the boys club, 161 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:08,363 trying to beat on bigger kids, you know, 162 00:08:08,404 --> 00:08:10,532 just to get a reputation of a fighter. 163 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:11,950 I always saw him after school 164 00:08:11,991 --> 00:08:13,511 'cause he always had a fight after school. 165 00:08:13,535 --> 00:08:15,012 There was somebody that was getting beat up 166 00:08:15,036 --> 00:08:17,372 at three o'clock in the school parking lot. 167 00:08:17,413 --> 00:08:18,933 Weren't you expelled from school, 168 00:08:18,957 --> 00:08:20,601 - like, a couple times? - -I wasn't expelled. 169 00:08:20,625 --> 00:08:22,835 Expelled is not the word. I was thrown out. 170 00:08:22,877 --> 00:08:24,504 I was thrown out of six schools. 171 00:08:24,546 --> 00:08:27,632 I was, uh, I visited six psychiatrists, 172 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:30,718 and they never found nothing crazy in me. 173 00:08:31,135 --> 00:08:33,096 Hector drove us crazy. 174 00:08:33,137 --> 00:08:34,806 Hector was a smaller kid. 175 00:08:34,847 --> 00:08:38,893 I remember an incident, one of the other seventh graders, 176 00:08:38,935 --> 00:08:40,186 who was a bigger kid, 177 00:08:40,228 --> 00:08:44,274 made the mistake of wanting to take him on. 178 00:08:44,315 --> 00:08:45,608 Hector just... 179 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:48,528 Pow, pow, pow, pow. Hit the guy, then stamp him with my feet. 180 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:50,613 We, we in a fight. We in war. 181 00:08:50,655 --> 00:08:52,365 He's trying to hurt me. 182 00:08:52,407 --> 00:08:54,534 He gave me a lot of trouble in school. 183 00:08:54,576 --> 00:08:59,205 Every day I had to put my boots, my coat, I run to the office. 184 00:08:59,247 --> 00:09:03,876 Who got in the office? Macho fighting in the school. 185 00:09:03,918 --> 00:09:06,921 But really, though, I wasn't really 186 00:09:06,963 --> 00:09:10,550 a bad kind of guy, like I want to hurt people. 187 00:09:10,592 --> 00:09:13,261 It was everything just adventurous, you know. 188 00:09:13,303 --> 00:09:16,347 Mischief, anything that he can get into, 189 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:17,849 but he would turn it into something 190 00:09:17,890 --> 00:09:20,560 where you would laugh. You never angry at him. 191 00:09:20,602 --> 00:09:22,520 One night, he showed up, he was driving a car. 192 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:23,998 He said, "Come on, let's go for a ride." 193 00:09:24,022 --> 00:09:25,624 Only to find out we went to White Castle in the Bronx, 194 00:09:25,648 --> 00:09:27,448 had a great evening. I said, "Bro, whose car?" 195 00:09:27,483 --> 00:09:29,128 He go like, "I just stole it for the night, Rocko. 196 00:09:29,152 --> 00:09:30,403 I'll call you tomorrow." 197 00:09:30,778 --> 00:09:33,156 I just spent two hours in a stolen car with you? 198 00:09:34,532 --> 00:09:35,742 When he was sixteen, 199 00:09:35,783 --> 00:09:37,994 Hector got caught stealing one of those cars 200 00:09:38,036 --> 00:09:40,705 and served time on Rikers Island. 201 00:09:40,747 --> 00:09:42,248 And when he got back home, 202 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:43,458 it soon became clear 203 00:09:43,499 --> 00:09:46,377 that stealing cars was not his only problem. 204 00:09:46,419 --> 00:09:49,380 He was around 17 years. 205 00:09:50,006 --> 00:09:52,342 And one time, I took him in bathroom, 206 00:09:52,383 --> 00:09:54,552 he said, "Mommy, I'm going to the bathroom. 207 00:09:54,594 --> 00:09:56,929 I'm going to do something. Please don't knock the door." 208 00:09:56,971 --> 00:09:58,848 I said, "What you going to do?" 209 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:01,893 That was the first time I catch him. 210 00:10:01,934 --> 00:10:04,270 "What you going to do? You're going to use drugs? 211 00:10:04,312 --> 00:10:06,648 "You're going to push something in your skin 212 00:10:06,689 --> 00:10:08,066 or something, Macho?" 213 00:10:08,358 --> 00:10:12,195 "No, Mommy. No, Mommy! No." "Okay. 214 00:10:12,236 --> 00:10:14,364 Hey, you all right, there?" 215 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:17,950 "Yes, Mom! Yes, Mommy." 216 00:10:17,992 --> 00:10:20,286 I said, "What? You doing something. 217 00:10:20,328 --> 00:10:23,581 "You got cold or something, your nose? 218 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:24,874 Give me that." 219 00:10:24,916 --> 00:10:26,793 Fwah! Fwah! 220 00:10:26,834 --> 00:10:27,835 Flush the toilet, 221 00:10:27,877 --> 00:10:30,171 it went down to the toilet, he said, 222 00:10:30,588 --> 00:10:32,882 "There go my money, Mommy. 223 00:10:32,924 --> 00:10:34,509 You know how much that cost?" 224 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:36,427 "I don't care how much. 225 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:38,846 Your life cost more than that." 226 00:10:39,055 --> 00:10:42,558 So, my mother told him, you got to stop. 227 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,768 You got to do something. 228 00:10:43,893 --> 00:10:45,287 That's when he began to go, you know, 229 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:46,896 started going to the gym. 230 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:54,821 Jefferson Plaza was the only sense of recreation 231 00:10:54,862 --> 00:10:56,114 that we had. 232 00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:58,783 And we always went there just for the girls. 233 00:10:58,825 --> 00:11:01,411 And in there, they had a, they had a gym, 234 00:11:01,452 --> 00:11:02,912 and that was the first time 235 00:11:02,954 --> 00:11:04,622 that we all got a taste of the boxing. 236 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:07,709 And the one that attached the most to it was Camacho. 237 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:09,877 Camacho made a decision that summer 238 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:12,088 that he was gonna get into boxing. 239 00:11:14,424 --> 00:11:18,594 Here's Camacho when he was, uh, doing the lightweight, 240 00:11:18,636 --> 00:11:21,013 and I made him North American champion. 241 00:11:21,264 --> 00:11:25,560 We were about to turn him pro. He wasn't pro yet. 242 00:11:25,601 --> 00:11:27,395 I first met Camacho 243 00:11:27,437 --> 00:11:31,441 when he was about 12, 13 years old. 244 00:11:31,733 --> 00:11:33,860 He's asking me different questions. 245 00:11:33,901 --> 00:11:35,570 I used to show him little things. 246 00:11:35,611 --> 00:11:39,198 He was persistent. He kept asking me over and over, 247 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,450 how you do this? 248 00:11:40,491 --> 00:11:42,785 He showed me that he had not only heart, 249 00:11:42,827 --> 00:11:44,078 that he was daring. 250 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,889 I seen that when he was a kid that he liked to fight. 251 00:11:45,913 --> 00:11:48,875 He was always in fights: street fights, alley fights, 252 00:11:48,916 --> 00:11:52,920 gang fights, school fights, family fights, 253 00:11:52,962 --> 00:11:54,815 just fights to be fighting, that's all, you know. 254 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:56,632 It's in him. You know, it's like Michelangelo 255 00:11:56,674 --> 00:11:58,634 was born to paint pictures. 256 00:11:58,676 --> 00:12:01,179 Hector Camacho was born to knock guys out. 257 00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:02,805 He was a teenager. 258 00:12:03,306 --> 00:12:04,682 Wild. 259 00:12:05,516 --> 00:12:06,934 Undisciplined. 260 00:12:07,935 --> 00:12:09,979 And I had discipline. 261 00:12:10,021 --> 00:12:12,857 I knew what he had. I got it out of him. 262 00:12:12,899 --> 00:12:15,085 He actually put all his energy and everything 263 00:12:15,109 --> 00:12:16,402 that he knew 264 00:12:16,444 --> 00:12:19,113 used to get in trouble when he was a young kid 265 00:12:19,155 --> 00:12:21,157 and put it to work for him. 266 00:12:21,199 --> 00:12:23,284 I started really working with him. 267 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:24,827 I actually showed him how to piv, 268 00:12:24,869 --> 00:12:26,704 how to side step, and how to dip. 269 00:12:26,746 --> 00:12:28,790 Do you know who his hero was? 270 00:12:28,831 --> 00:12:29,957 Bruce Lee. 271 00:12:30,291 --> 00:12:33,044 Wasn't no boxer. It was Bruce Lee. 272 00:12:34,003 --> 00:12:36,339 I was always the biggest Bruce Lee fanatic, 273 00:12:36,380 --> 00:12:38,341 and that's where my style comes in. 274 00:12:38,382 --> 00:12:40,676 A lot of defense, a lot of movement. 275 00:12:40,718 --> 00:12:42,488 God gave him everything he was supposed to have 276 00:12:42,512 --> 00:12:43,888 as far as I feel. 277 00:12:44,555 --> 00:12:46,432 Fast, smart. 278 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:48,351 Tell him something, he could see the picture. 279 00:12:48,392 --> 00:12:51,854 Strong, determined, and hungry. 280 00:12:53,231 --> 00:12:54,440 He had a gift, 281 00:12:54,482 --> 00:12:56,901 and it was recognized early. 282 00:12:56,943 --> 00:13:00,321 I saw something in him that others didn't believe. 283 00:13:00,363 --> 00:13:03,032 They felt he was gonna amount to nothing. 284 00:13:03,074 --> 00:13:05,576 I took time in teaching him. 285 00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:07,745 I would rough him, I would yell at him. 286 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:11,415 Would talk like big brother or father. 287 00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:13,709 'Cause he really didn't have a father. 288 00:13:22,134 --> 00:13:25,596 I used to live there in the fifth floor. 289 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:28,307 When I came around, I was nine years old. 290 00:13:28,724 --> 00:13:30,268 Yeah. Then I went to Puerto Rico. 291 00:13:30,309 --> 00:13:32,812 That's where I meet, uh, Macho's father. 292 00:13:32,854 --> 00:13:36,482 I get married over there, everything. Yes. 293 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:39,443 I married him when I was 14 294 00:13:39,485 --> 00:13:41,028 and he was 17. 295 00:13:41,070 --> 00:13:42,822 Eh! You young, you know. 296 00:13:42,864 --> 00:13:46,951 He was a drinking mate. He used to drink a lot. 297 00:13:48,619 --> 00:13:52,039 And Macho said, "Mommy, why you marry a man like that?" 298 00:13:52,081 --> 00:13:53,791 I said, "That's your father." 299 00:13:56,419 --> 00:13:57,545 Ohh! 300 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,339 "You's a good mother, you's a good woman, 301 00:14:00,381 --> 00:14:01,883 why you marry a man like that?" 302 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:04,468 I said, "I don't know. I was crazy." 303 00:14:04,886 --> 00:14:06,262 I did not think. 304 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,307 He was abusive. 305 00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:12,518 We used to see him beating on her, when we were small, 306 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:15,396 we'd come out to the windows, the fire escapes. 307 00:14:15,438 --> 00:14:17,815 My mother used to put us under the bed. 308 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:19,442 Me and Macho saw a lot. 309 00:14:19,483 --> 00:14:21,235 We had to see her all bruised up. 310 00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:24,447 He used to come home drunk, beat on her. 311 00:14:24,488 --> 00:14:28,451 And my mother used to be moving to different places 312 00:14:28,492 --> 00:14:30,786 just to try to stay away from him. 313 00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:33,915 We used to see my mother struggle. 314 00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:35,708 Five o'clock in the morning on the welfare, 315 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:37,251 standing on line. 316 00:14:38,336 --> 00:14:41,088 We went cold, no lights. 317 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:43,591 She struggled with us, uh, so... 318 00:14:45,134 --> 00:14:46,719 He never really discussed that, 319 00:14:46,761 --> 00:14:49,597 but I know it affected him and wanted him to provide 320 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:53,184 'cause he, he wanted to be the man of the house, of course. 321 00:14:53,225 --> 00:14:56,103 He took it upon himself to do that at an early age. 322 00:14:56,145 --> 00:14:59,398 He didn't have no education 323 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,192 nor did he have a trade. 324 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:03,152 Boxing was a way out for him. 325 00:15:03,194 --> 00:15:06,614 And that's why he took boxing serious. 326 00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:09,158 You know, through the amateurs 327 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,744 everywhere we went, we was winning. 328 00:15:11,786 --> 00:15:13,162 I always prove people wrong. 329 00:15:13,204 --> 00:15:15,164 They never thought I was going to come this far. 330 00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:17,625 Kid Glove, Junior Olympic champion, 331 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,586 Empire State Games, Golden Gloves. 332 00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:22,713 Every fight I ain't supposed to win. 333 00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:25,508 "You gonna be alright. You gonna bypass 'em all." 334 00:15:25,549 --> 00:15:27,301 And he did. 335 00:15:27,343 --> 00:15:28,970 Hector was an impressive 336 00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:31,097 96 and four as an amateur. 337 00:15:31,138 --> 00:15:34,058 And the next step was turning pro in 1980. 338 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:37,019 He hails from Spanish Harlem, 339 00:15:37,061 --> 00:15:39,355 Hector Camacho. 340 00:15:43,192 --> 00:15:45,486 Figueroa covering up. 341 00:15:45,528 --> 00:15:47,697 I don't think he's gonna get up. 342 00:15:50,282 --> 00:15:51,551 First 10 fights was like 343 00:15:51,575 --> 00:15:52,576 first round knockouts. 344 00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:54,286 Then you know he's a promising champ. 345 00:15:54,328 --> 00:15:55,621 The fight is over. 346 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:57,331 Girls would be screaming all the time. 347 00:15:57,373 --> 00:15:58,624 Yay! Yay! 348 00:15:58,666 --> 00:16:00,167 Hey, Little Man! 349 00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:02,270 But then after that, he changed his whole thing. 350 00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:06,882 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 351 00:16:06,924 --> 00:16:09,427 And Camacho, wherever he was, 352 00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:13,514 just drew a large crowd, and he was very flashy. 353 00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:19,204 There was something about Camacho 354 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:21,272 that made you look at him. 355 00:16:22,648 --> 00:16:25,526 And it wasn't just the flash. It was the boxing ability, too. 356 00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:27,862 Moving. Moving. Doing the footwork, 357 00:16:27,903 --> 00:16:29,864 you know, doing the fakes. 358 00:16:31,323 --> 00:16:34,118 Here, I spin you, 359 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,745 I could push you off balance. 360 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:37,997 This upper cut is coming. 361 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:41,417 Again, again, you continue, you don't stop. 362 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:44,420 Spin the guy. Crack him. 363 00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:47,048 He had a jab, here's a jab. 364 00:16:47,089 --> 00:16:48,984 You turn it over, right? That's a conventional jab. 365 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:51,510 You turn it over, you protect your chin into your shoulder, 366 00:16:51,552 --> 00:16:53,554 and you bring it back on a straight line, right? 367 00:16:53,596 --> 00:16:56,223 That's a jab. Pow! He didn't do this. 368 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:58,809 That took a tenth of a second longer. 369 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:00,561 He did this. Pow! 370 00:17:00,603 --> 00:17:01,812 That was why he got it there 371 00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:03,397 so straight and so quick. 372 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:04,940 Pow! 373 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:07,610 He invented his own jab. 374 00:17:07,651 --> 00:17:09,320 I call it the Trip Hammer. 375 00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:12,073 In the early '80s, 376 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:13,949 it was a fantastic time in boxing. 377 00:17:13,991 --> 00:17:16,118 You had so many superstars. 378 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,912 You had Larry Holmes, Ray Leonard, 379 00:17:17,953 --> 00:17:19,246 Tommy Hearns, Marvin Hagler, 380 00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:20,623 Salvador Sanchez, Wilfredo Gomez. 381 00:17:20,664 --> 00:17:23,084 Camacho was a little different from all of them. 382 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:27,254 And CBS Television was smart enough, very early, 383 00:17:27,296 --> 00:17:30,508 to realize we're, we're hitching our star to this kid. 384 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:32,843 Well, Tim, now that Sugar Ray here is retired, 385 00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:34,929 I think that Hector Camacho could become 386 00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:36,806 the new Mr. Excitement of boxing. 387 00:17:36,847 --> 00:17:37,932 He seems to have it all. 388 00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:39,975 He made himself known. 389 00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:42,353 He was a colorful guy right from the start. 390 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:44,271 He just kind of captivated us. 391 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:49,985 And we were starting to become really the boxing network. 392 00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:53,155 So he became one of our star guys. 393 00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:55,783 Hector "Macho" Camacho 394 00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:57,701 and John Montes Jr. 395 00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:59,537 An important lightweight bout of course 396 00:17:59,578 --> 00:18:02,540 for Camacho en route to what he hopes will be 397 00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:03,958 a title shot at the 130 pound... 398 00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,168 Someone thought of a great idea, 399 00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:08,295 and the next thing you know, we had bought a fight 400 00:18:08,337 --> 00:18:11,924 against John Montes in the state of Alaska. 401 00:18:13,592 --> 00:18:15,970 Alaska. Even the sound of it 402 00:18:16,011 --> 00:18:17,596 holds a certain mystery. 403 00:18:17,638 --> 00:18:19,640 The look of it is bewitching. 404 00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:20,808 Jagged mountain peaks 405 00:18:20,850 --> 00:18:23,435 and snow-quilted tundra teeming with wildlife... 406 00:18:23,477 --> 00:18:24,645 All the way in Alaska, 407 00:18:24,687 --> 00:18:26,564 which has never been fought before. 408 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:28,357 "Eddie, you're killing me, me go to Alaska, 409 00:18:28,399 --> 00:18:29,459 "a kid from Spanish Harlem? 410 00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:31,318 The hell am I gonna do in Alaska?" 411 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,864 CBS Prime Time channel two. And I'm like, wow. 412 00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:37,283 And he's like a big kid, you know. 413 00:18:37,324 --> 00:18:38,951 He's jumping up and down, "We in Alaska! 414 00:18:38,993 --> 00:18:40,703 We in Alaska! We in Alaska." 415 00:18:40,744 --> 00:18:42,055 And I was like, "Okay, okay, okay." 416 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:44,373 You have to be the first Puerto Rican-born fighter 417 00:18:44,415 --> 00:18:46,250 to ever become a musher. What was it like? 418 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:48,878 Oh, it was good. It was like driving a Cadillac. 419 00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:51,839 There was always something about Hector 420 00:18:51,881 --> 00:18:52,882 that was a lot of fun. 421 00:18:52,923 --> 00:18:54,192 You were always happy to see him. 422 00:18:54,216 --> 00:18:55,593 Did you give the dogs names, 423 00:18:55,634 --> 00:18:57,195 or did you find out what their names were? 424 00:18:57,219 --> 00:18:59,221 No. All I was going is mush, mush! 425 00:19:00,347 --> 00:19:02,224 He was hard not to like. 426 00:19:04,476 --> 00:19:07,104 But before the night of the fight, 427 00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,523 we got a call in our hotel 428 00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:13,319 and one of his handlers, in great stress said, 429 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:14,671 "You know, you've got to come over here." 430 00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:15,714 "Well, get him on the phone." 431 00:19:15,738 --> 00:19:17,573 He's trying to jump out a window. 432 00:19:18,449 --> 00:19:22,453 And he was completely out of his mind, drug wise. 433 00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:24,371 You know, talked him out of it, calmed down, 434 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,624 and I got him out of the danger. 435 00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:29,210 Then the concern was 436 00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:30,520 "How's he going to be fight time?" 437 00:19:30,544 --> 00:19:36,258 Hector "Macho" Camacho! 438 00:19:39,261 --> 00:19:40,488 Dan, this is by far 439 00:19:40,512 --> 00:19:41,573 the most dangerous opponent 440 00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:43,807 that Camacho has faced. 441 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,185 And the next day, 442 00:19:46,227 --> 00:19:47,996 you wouldn't have known anything had happened. 443 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:49,780 Camacho told me he was going to go right out 444 00:19:49,813 --> 00:19:51,273 and jump on him in the first round. 445 00:19:51,315 --> 00:19:52,483 Let's see if he does it. 446 00:19:52,524 --> 00:19:53,835 There was domination there. 447 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:55,212 He threw the punches he wanted to throw, 448 00:19:55,236 --> 00:19:57,196 moved the way he wanted to move 449 00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:59,615 and did what he wanted to do. 450 00:19:59,657 --> 00:20:01,742 Oh, solid left uppercut 451 00:20:01,784 --> 00:20:03,535 and down goes Montes. 452 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,079 He is in trouble. 453 00:20:06,121 --> 00:20:07,915 And it is all over. 454 00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:09,083 Hector "Macho" Camacho! 455 00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:13,087 A startling first round knockout. 456 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,217 And he showed everything that he could be 457 00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:19,551 the superstar that he could be. 458 00:20:19,593 --> 00:20:22,638 And there is chaos in the ring. 459 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,431 We were grateful for the fact 460 00:20:24,473 --> 00:20:26,725 that he had recovered and the fight went on, 461 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:30,521 but it was a source of great concern to us 462 00:20:30,562 --> 00:20:32,856 from that point forward because we knew 463 00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:34,900 he was dealing, you know, with the demons. 464 00:20:34,942 --> 00:20:38,153 So, Hector Camacho continues to prove 465 00:20:38,195 --> 00:20:39,613 that he is the real thing. 466 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,573 Folks here in Alaska, they saw 467 00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:44,576 the one-punch power of "Macho" Camacho. 468 00:20:44,618 --> 00:20:47,246 If the Montes fight revealed the best 469 00:20:47,288 --> 00:20:48,747 of Camacho in the ring, 470 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:51,959 it also was a reminder of the realities of life 471 00:20:52,001 --> 00:20:54,336 in the streets where he'd come from. 472 00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:56,005 This is Spanish Harlem. 473 00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:58,007 Streets where handguns are as common 474 00:20:58,048 --> 00:20:59,550 as truants and drugs. 475 00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:01,027 There's been high unemployment 476 00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:02,261 in the Hispanic community. 477 00:21:02,303 --> 00:21:03,863 Harlem families told of begging, 478 00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,556 borrowing, or even stealing 479 00:21:05,597 --> 00:21:06,890 to put food on the table. 480 00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:08,851 Good evening. There was a gunfight tonight 481 00:21:08,892 --> 00:21:10,161 at an East Harlem grocery store. 482 00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:12,187 Robbers on the one side, the police on the other... 483 00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:13,564 Grew up in an infested area 484 00:21:13,605 --> 00:21:15,858 where we see junkies on the floor... 485 00:21:16,817 --> 00:21:19,069 and drug dealers trying to recruit you. 486 00:21:19,403 --> 00:21:21,822 There was nothing else, but there was always drugs. 487 00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:24,199 There was no food, but we had drugs. 488 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,579 From the moment we were born, we were just trying 489 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:30,205 to find something. 490 00:21:35,336 --> 00:21:38,047 But with Hector Camacho now on the scene, 491 00:21:38,088 --> 00:21:41,383 the people of Spanish Harlem found a new hero, 492 00:21:41,425 --> 00:21:44,386 and Hector was born for the role. 493 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:47,222 Wo-Hey, look at you. Come here. 494 00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:49,558 - Okay. - You look nice! 495 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,769 - Yeah, look at you! - I try. 496 00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:53,228 Looking cute! 497 00:21:53,771 --> 00:21:55,522 He was the pride of Spanish Harlem. 498 00:21:55,564 --> 00:21:57,167 It's 'cause he came from the Barrio. 499 00:21:57,191 --> 00:21:59,151 This the neighborhood cops here. 500 00:22:02,529 --> 00:22:04,114 Get in there! Get in there! 501 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:07,117 And that's why it meant a lot to the community. 502 00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:09,370 What kind of guy is he? 503 00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:10,579 One of the best. 504 00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:11,830 Nice to have around here? 505 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,457 I think the best thing ever happened 506 00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:14,541 to the neighborhood. 507 00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:17,252 He is the thing that this neighborhood needs. 508 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:20,756 But a lot of people grow up in this neighborhood 509 00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:22,633 and don't make it the way you have. 510 00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:26,595 What I had going for myself was a boxing career 511 00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:28,514 and I started getting recognition. 512 00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:29,890 And I always wanted it, 513 00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:32,393 so I'm a big role model out there. 514 00:22:32,434 --> 00:22:33,602 Everybody looks up to me 515 00:22:33,644 --> 00:22:36,188 and they know me and they support me, 516 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:38,232 and they want me to go out there 517 00:22:38,273 --> 00:22:39,608 and represent myself 518 00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:43,654 as one of the baddest, toughest Puerto Ricans ever. 519 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:47,366 They want to see me establish greatness. 520 00:22:47,408 --> 00:22:50,744 And on his way to greatness in 1983, 521 00:22:50,786 --> 00:22:52,371 Hector now 21 and 0, 522 00:22:52,413 --> 00:22:55,791 got his first shot at a world title in Puerto Rico 523 00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:58,127 against Rafael "Bazooka" Limon. 524 00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:08,262 The rivalry between Mexico and Puerto Rico 525 00:23:08,303 --> 00:23:09,430 in boxing is legendary. 526 00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:11,557 And Limon was a great Mexican warrior 527 00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:13,434 and a tough guy. Perfect for Camacho. 528 00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:16,145 Well, today, he will have an opportunity 529 00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:18,772 to show the fans down on the island 530 00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:20,190 his skills in person. 531 00:23:20,232 --> 00:23:22,484 Remember, he was born just a few miles 532 00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:24,611 from here in Bayamon, Puerto Rico. 533 00:23:24,653 --> 00:23:26,506 And it's the first time that he has fought here... 534 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:28,466 He was raised in New York, 535 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:30,951 and his career had already started 536 00:23:30,993 --> 00:23:33,120 and taken shape in the United States. 537 00:23:33,162 --> 00:23:35,080 He wasn't fully accepted. 538 00:23:35,289 --> 00:23:38,000 He wasn't the hometown guy, 539 00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:39,334 but nonetheless, 540 00:23:39,376 --> 00:23:41,587 he was a Puerto Rican against a Mexican. 541 00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:42,963 A very live crowd, 542 00:23:43,005 --> 00:23:44,840 awaiting the start of this bout 543 00:23:44,882 --> 00:23:46,967 with high anticipation. 544 00:23:47,009 --> 00:23:49,011 He was antsy, and the promoters were saying 545 00:23:49,052 --> 00:23:51,847 he's supposed to be in his room asleep or laying down. 546 00:23:51,889 --> 00:23:52,931 "I'm fine." 547 00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:54,367 "No, you're supposed to be getting your rest." 548 00:23:54,391 --> 00:23:55,434 "I'm fine." 549 00:23:55,476 --> 00:23:58,437 He couldn't just sit there. That was not him. 550 00:23:58,479 --> 00:24:01,273 Here he is, the most colorful figure 551 00:24:01,315 --> 00:24:02,774 in boxing today, 552 00:24:02,816 --> 00:24:05,068 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 553 00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:07,779 He has the Puerto Rican flag on his head. 554 00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:09,615 To be back in Puerto Rico 555 00:24:09,656 --> 00:24:10,824 was a big deal for him. 556 00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:12,868 As you can see, just unable to move. 557 00:24:12,910 --> 00:24:14,453 The aisles are clogged, 558 00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:15,871 and he's unable to come forward. 559 00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:17,331 There's no question 560 00:24:17,372 --> 00:24:19,166 when that fight began, 561 00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:21,835 he knew he had to win it, 562 00:24:21,877 --> 00:24:24,338 because the fans expected him to win it. 563 00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:28,717 The Limon fight was 564 00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:30,219 the coming-out party for Camacho. 565 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:33,180 Letting the people, you know, get to know him, see him, 566 00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:34,932 feel good about him. 567 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,517 Claim him. 568 00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:37,785 And, uh, the usual 569 00:24:37,809 --> 00:24:40,312 Macho Man presentation being made here. 570 00:24:40,354 --> 00:24:42,898 He was on stage, the curtain came back... 571 00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:44,650 Macho and Limon. 572 00:24:44,691 --> 00:24:47,903 Limon ranked number three, Camacho number one. 573 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:49,820 And he shined. 574 00:24:50,781 --> 00:24:52,366 And the bells for round number one. 575 00:24:52,407 --> 00:24:54,284 Richard Steele, the referee, calls them 576 00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:56,119 to the center of the ring. 577 00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:59,623 A quick start by Camacho who landed a left hand 578 00:24:59,665 --> 00:25:02,960 that knocked Limon back into his corner. 579 00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:05,921 Limon takes a real good punch, but when Camacho hits you, 580 00:25:05,963 --> 00:25:07,482 sometimes you don't see the punch coming. 581 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,425 It's Camacho's speed and prowess there. 582 00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,094 It's just truly amazing. 583 00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:13,762 I called a number of his fights. 584 00:25:13,804 --> 00:25:16,723 He was just slick. He was super fast, 585 00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:18,934 strong, real confidant. 586 00:25:18,976 --> 00:25:21,144 I like the way he dances as he's punching. 587 00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:23,105 It's like on the dance floor. 588 00:25:23,564 --> 00:25:25,899 His footwork was just incredible. 589 00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:28,735 Movement, the uppercuts, and the hooks, and the... 590 00:25:28,777 --> 00:25:30,988 He had the whole package. 591 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:34,783 Down goes Limon on the left hand at the bell. 592 00:25:36,785 --> 00:25:38,579 Combination to the head sends Limon 593 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,622 right through the ropes. 594 00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:43,584 And that is all. Richard Steele has stopped the fight. 595 00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:47,546 Hector Camacho has scored a fifth round knockout 596 00:25:47,588 --> 00:25:52,259 and won the vacant WBC super featherweight crown. 597 00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:54,052 For Macho to defeat 598 00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:57,306 a major important Mexican fighter, 599 00:25:57,347 --> 00:26:00,392 that was, that was a crowning moment for him 600 00:26:00,434 --> 00:26:02,102 to the Puerto Rican people. 601 00:26:02,144 --> 00:26:03,770 Hector "Macho" Camacho, 602 00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:07,024 enjoying his triumph in the arms of his mother. 603 00:26:07,274 --> 00:26:08,775 Macho Camacho's mama! 604 00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:11,862 Every people, "Whoa, Maria! Love you, Maria! 605 00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:14,323 Macho! Macho! Macho! Yeah!" 606 00:26:14,364 --> 00:26:15,324 We have fun that day. 607 00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:17,451 It was kind of like hitting 608 00:26:17,492 --> 00:26:19,036 The Ed Sullivan Show, 609 00:26:19,536 --> 00:26:21,496 and when The Beatles got there, 610 00:26:21,538 --> 00:26:23,498 and now you knew who The Beatles were. 611 00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:25,709 That day, you knew who Camacho was. 612 00:26:25,751 --> 00:26:28,253 There wasn't any doubt in your mind about winning this? 613 00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:29,480 I keep telling you, I'm going to be 614 00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:30,505 a three-time champion, 615 00:26:30,547 --> 00:26:31,673 'cause I'm the Macho Man 616 00:26:31,715 --> 00:26:33,175 and I'm dominating the game. 617 00:26:33,216 --> 00:26:34,760 It's my time! Macho time! 618 00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:36,511 - What time is it? - Macho time 619 00:26:36,553 --> 00:26:40,098 As a world champion, Hector's profile took off. 620 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:42,851 He was on his way to becoming a household name, 621 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,520 and his fame was already about a lot more 622 00:26:45,562 --> 00:26:47,147 than just his boxing. 623 00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:50,233 He just exploded onto the scene. 624 00:26:50,275 --> 00:26:52,194 There's nobody like me right now, 625 00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:53,487 at this moment. 626 00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:56,198 People like me, Elvis. I mean, hey... 627 00:26:56,239 --> 00:26:58,784 The cars that he used to steal one time, now he was buying. 628 00:26:58,825 --> 00:27:01,662 He used to pick me up at school with the Lamborghini. 629 00:27:01,703 --> 00:27:04,665 When he had the Lamborghini, the doors that opens, 630 00:27:04,706 --> 00:27:05,957 when they first came out. 631 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:09,419 When I came outside, I said, "Oh, my brother, my brother!" 632 00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,673 He was so charismatic. 633 00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:16,176 He would see you in the street and he would hug you 634 00:27:16,218 --> 00:27:19,262 as if you were the best friend he had ever had. 635 00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:21,556 He loved to have a good time. 636 00:27:22,808 --> 00:27:24,643 The way I dress, the way I dance, 637 00:27:24,685 --> 00:27:27,145 sexiness about me. I love it. 638 00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:29,648 Uh... Macho was crazy. 639 00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:32,651 Macho was like, he didn't copy from nobody. 640 00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:34,253 He didn't want the things that you want. 641 00:27:34,277 --> 00:27:35,946 He wanted to be different. 642 00:27:35,987 --> 00:27:37,698 He used to make all his outfits. 643 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:39,533 I'm very creative. 644 00:27:39,574 --> 00:27:41,201 And I started drawing. 645 00:27:41,243 --> 00:27:43,495 See, now this will be a jumpsuit. 646 00:27:43,537 --> 00:27:46,373 Maybe suede in black. 647 00:27:46,415 --> 00:27:48,250 So I come up with things like this, 648 00:27:48,291 --> 00:27:50,752 and I start analyzing myself, you know, 649 00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:52,879 and I come up with things like this. 650 00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:54,548 So it makes me very different, you know. 651 00:27:54,589 --> 00:27:57,509 He was very, uh, outrageous, 652 00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:00,262 uh, flamboyant, ostentatious. 653 00:28:00,303 --> 00:28:03,890 All those words that mean, pow, here's me! 654 00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:07,185 He brought another dimension to the sport. 655 00:28:07,227 --> 00:28:08,478 During one fight, Macho, 656 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,831 wanted me to go in the ring with him. 657 00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:11,040 He said, "I can't be the only Indian." 658 00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:12,607 And I'm like, "Are you serious?" 659 00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:14,609 This is live television. 660 00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:15,861 I'm dancing around in Indian, 661 00:28:15,902 --> 00:28:17,654 doing an Indian war dance with him. 662 00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:18,822 I tell you what, 663 00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:20,049 they broke the mold when they invented 664 00:28:20,073 --> 00:28:21,450 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 665 00:28:21,491 --> 00:28:23,577 He is special for sure. 666 00:28:23,618 --> 00:28:24,953 It wasn't a costume. 667 00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:27,622 Those were his suit of armor. 668 00:28:28,165 --> 00:28:32,002 He became those costumes, this character in the ring. 669 00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:34,629 That was his flag in the ground, you know. 670 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,797 Oh, yeah. 671 00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,300 It went to his mantra. "What time is it?" 672 00:28:38,341 --> 00:28:42,012 Macho time! Macho time! 673 00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:44,890 I like Batman, I love Superman 674 00:28:44,931 --> 00:28:49,686 and the Lone Ranger, and, uh, Zorro, you know. 675 00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:52,814 You put all of those superheroes together, 676 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:56,151 there's nobody like the Macho Man, you know. 677 00:28:56,193 --> 00:28:59,112 People going to just sit back and say, wow, 678 00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:02,032 you know, i-i-it's a dream. 679 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:05,952 He was comfortable in that skin 680 00:29:05,994 --> 00:29:08,288 because he wanted to entertain. 681 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:09,664 He wanted to be liked. 682 00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:12,167 He wanted to be thought of 683 00:29:12,209 --> 00:29:14,085 as something worthwhile. 684 00:29:14,127 --> 00:29:15,504 Mr. President. 685 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:16,922 Champ. How are you? 686 00:29:16,963 --> 00:29:19,424 Well, I've been all around the world. 687 00:29:20,842 --> 00:29:22,761 I met ambassadors, presidents, 688 00:29:22,803 --> 00:29:24,846 I mean, I'm... I'm important. 689 00:29:25,013 --> 00:29:26,848 I'm important 'cause of boxing. 690 00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:30,852 A little cockroach that was crawling around the ghetto. 691 00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:35,607 For at least a moment, after Sugar Ray Leonard 692 00:29:35,649 --> 00:29:39,027 and before Mike Tyson, Hector "Macho" Camacho 693 00:29:39,069 --> 00:29:41,279 was the biggest name in boxing. 694 00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:44,074 But alongside all the success and fame, 695 00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:46,743 some things started to change. 696 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,596 There was a period where you weren't happy, right? 697 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,832 Well, you know, every... It's a learning process. 698 00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,100 When you're in the learning process, 699 00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:54,793 you get frustrated, you know, 700 00:29:54,835 --> 00:29:57,337 you quite don't see things right, 701 00:29:57,379 --> 00:29:59,047 you kind of like don't understand. 702 00:29:59,089 --> 00:30:01,591 I wasn't trained for this. 703 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:03,134 At the beginning of his career, 704 00:30:03,176 --> 00:30:04,135 everything was great. 705 00:30:04,177 --> 00:30:06,096 It was about his family. 706 00:30:06,137 --> 00:30:08,890 After that, new people came around, 707 00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:11,476 you know, different managers, 708 00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:14,396 trainers, different people around him. 709 00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:16,481 So this start changing. 710 00:30:16,523 --> 00:30:19,109 Talking about how great he was, he don't need me, 711 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:20,944 and he don't need this guy. 712 00:30:20,986 --> 00:30:21,945 See what happens. 713 00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:23,238 But I said, you know what? 714 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,240 If that's how y'all feel... 715 00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:27,200 you know, I walk away. 716 00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:31,496 But I was no longer there to enforce anything. 717 00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:33,582 That's when things fell apart. 718 00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:37,168 What happened with Camacho, he became an overnight sensation. 719 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,462 You know, the championships come with serious partying. 720 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,756 The excitement of winning, the people. 721 00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:43,192 There was never running out of anything. 722 00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:44,509 So how much can we consume? 723 00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:45,802 How much partying can we do? 724 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:47,804 How much drinking can we do? 725 00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:49,681 And next thing you know, he's on a course, 726 00:30:49,723 --> 00:30:52,309 two or three weeks later, no food, no sleep, 727 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:54,019 and we can't bring him down. 728 00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:56,938 Right now, people thinking that 729 00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:58,773 I'm a juvenile delinquent, 730 00:30:58,815 --> 00:31:01,026 people constantly coming on to me, 731 00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:03,445 destroying me, destroying me. 732 00:31:03,486 --> 00:31:05,447 I said, dang, you know, when you can't breathe, 733 00:31:05,488 --> 00:31:06,406 can't breathe. 734 00:31:06,448 --> 00:31:09,367 Open, open, open the window, you see? 735 00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:10,577 I got on that plane. 736 00:31:10,619 --> 00:31:13,496 I'm leaving in the jet plane. 737 00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:16,249 Don't know when I'll be back again. 738 00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:20,420 He just wanted his solace. 739 00:31:20,462 --> 00:31:22,964 He just wanted his tranquility. 740 00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:26,468 He wanted to be away from everybody. 741 00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:42,817 Little salt. 742 00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,820 Little canela. 743 00:31:45,987 --> 00:31:48,406 Everyday four o'clock in the morning, 744 00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:50,909 sometimes three o'clock in the morning, 745 00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:52,744 "Mommy, get up. Mommy, get up! 746 00:31:52,786 --> 00:31:54,412 Make me my oatmeal!" 747 00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:57,582 I said "This time?" He don't care, he eat it. 748 00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:02,128 Mommy's avena, her oatmeal, my mother's. Oh! 749 00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:04,714 That was one of his favorites. Mm-hmm. 750 00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:09,052 When he wanted avena, Mommy will make him his avena. 751 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:10,971 He used to eat it. He would sleep for hours 752 00:32:11,012 --> 00:32:12,973 and hours and hours. 753 00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,184 Sugar. 754 00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:19,854 This was like his little secret place. 755 00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:22,482 So when he will come, he will come sober, 756 00:32:22,524 --> 00:32:25,360 and it was to sleep and eat and relax. 757 00:32:25,402 --> 00:32:27,278 - Mm-hmm. - You know, relax. 758 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,490 He used to stay there for weeks and weeks. 759 00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:35,370 "No, don't tell Mommy about all this" 760 00:32:35,412 --> 00:32:38,164 going on with the cocaine. 761 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:40,542 But I find out. 762 00:32:40,583 --> 00:32:43,753 "I can feel that you're doing something wrong," I said. 763 00:32:45,255 --> 00:32:46,339 Good. 764 00:32:47,549 --> 00:32:48,967 "Mommy, I won't tell you, 765 00:32:49,009 --> 00:32:52,137 but I'm not going to do it in front of you, you know." 766 00:32:52,178 --> 00:32:54,514 I say you have to stop that. 767 00:32:55,015 --> 00:32:57,851 Something might happen to you, I'm going to die. 768 00:32:57,892 --> 00:32:59,978 And that was always the little rumble 769 00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:01,354 I used to have with him. 770 00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:03,398 You know, he needs to stop that. 771 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,150 You know, that's no good for you. 772 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,360 You know, we used to fight with people 773 00:33:07,402 --> 00:33:09,279 that was around him, 774 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,530 that we knew 775 00:33:10,572 --> 00:33:12,240 that was giving it to him. 776 00:33:12,741 --> 00:33:15,535 No, so we used to always... baaaaah. 777 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,413 He used to leave, disappear. 778 00:33:18,455 --> 00:33:20,623 I'm going through all these mental stumbles, 779 00:33:20,665 --> 00:33:23,585 you know, not wanting to break away, 780 00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:27,547 you know, from something that I come from. 781 00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:32,886 But I'm the Macho Man, you see, the street life. 782 00:33:32,927 --> 00:33:34,554 You know, it's fun. 783 00:33:35,221 --> 00:33:37,265 He was a little reckless, 784 00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:38,683 you know. 785 00:33:38,892 --> 00:33:40,560 It was just who he was. 786 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:45,106 Hector became a father when he was only 16. 787 00:33:48,568 --> 00:33:50,070 It was tough. 788 00:33:54,282 --> 00:33:55,992 One time, we was in Puerto Rico, 789 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:58,828 I'm probably like eight years old, man, nine years old. 790 00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,097 In the morning, I heard the phone ringing. 791 00:34:00,121 --> 00:34:02,415 I looked around my father wasn't around. 792 00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:06,419 So I got up, grabbed the phone. 793 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920 Hello. 794 00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:11,174 Papi! My father told me. I said, "Pops, where you at?" 795 00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:14,052 "Listen, I'm in Florida." We in Puerto Rico. 796 00:34:14,094 --> 00:34:15,845 He said, "Listen, I'm in Florida. 797 00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,097 "I'll be here for three days. 798 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:18,138 Look under the pillow." 799 00:34:18,181 --> 00:34:20,433 I went to his bed, look under the pillow. 800 00:34:20,475 --> 00:34:21,935 Bunch of money there. 801 00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:23,769 Grabbed the money. 802 00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:25,939 Went back, "Yeah, Pops, you left some money here." 803 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:27,333 "No, no, that's for you. I'm in Florida." 804 00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:29,567 He left me in a hotel, went to another state. 805 00:34:29,943 --> 00:34:32,987 "That's the money, if you need anything, use it." 806 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:38,868 He's a kid. He's a big kid. That's just who he was. 807 00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,454 But emotionally, he was, he was a wreck. 808 00:34:42,539 --> 00:34:43,957 Two sides. 809 00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:45,875 Less than a year into his reign 810 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,502 as super featherweight champ, 811 00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,504 the pressure seemed to get to Hector, 812 00:34:49,546 --> 00:34:52,632 and he took more than six months off. 813 00:34:52,674 --> 00:34:55,385 When he returned to the ring against Louie Burke, 814 00:34:55,426 --> 00:34:57,971 there were plenty of signs of the turmoil 815 00:34:58,012 --> 00:34:59,639 he was going through. 816 00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:04,686 Hector had been through one of his bad spells, 817 00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:07,021 so we were a little concerned 818 00:35:07,063 --> 00:35:08,481 about what shape he would be in 819 00:35:08,523 --> 00:35:11,109 to put on a fight on our network. 820 00:35:11,317 --> 00:35:12,360 Well, he did well. 821 00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:15,572 Not his greatest performance, but he was solid. 822 00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:16,406 He won the fight. 823 00:35:16,447 --> 00:35:17,699 Hector Camacho 824 00:35:17,740 --> 00:35:20,952 with, if you want to call it a comeback fight. 825 00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:22,662 Boy, it feels good being back! 826 00:35:22,704 --> 00:35:25,498 I love it! Yeah, buddy! 827 00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:26,934 All right. Now, one other thing... 828 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:28,835 In the post-match interview, 829 00:35:28,877 --> 00:35:31,129 suddenly he was crying. 830 00:35:31,337 --> 00:35:33,673 And what about the... What, what message have you got 831 00:35:33,715 --> 00:35:35,300 for all your fans out there? 832 00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:36,426 I just feel great. 833 00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:38,219 I just hope everybody keeps supporting me, 834 00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:40,346 be my friend. Because I need friends. 835 00:35:40,889 --> 00:35:43,391 Hector, you're upset and you've won the fight. 836 00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:44,994 There's no reason to be upset, young man. 837 00:35:45,018 --> 00:35:47,395 I know the future is very much ahead of you. 838 00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:49,606 He got his head on my shoulder and was weeping. 839 00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,609 And then he said, you know, I need friends. 840 00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:53,568 I want to have my, 841 00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:54,920 hope my friends will keep loving me. 842 00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:57,739 And it was really quite a moment. 843 00:35:57,780 --> 00:35:59,032 This is still a young man 844 00:35:59,073 --> 00:36:00,909 who feels that not everybody loves him. 845 00:36:00,950 --> 00:36:02,619 He's come through a difficult period. 846 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:05,079 And I think that was a genuine moment 847 00:36:05,121 --> 00:36:07,123 of emotion for Hector Camacho. 848 00:36:07,749 --> 00:36:09,250 He had a lot of demons, 849 00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:11,419 and a lot of that gets overlooked 850 00:36:11,461 --> 00:36:13,213 because of the power of his personality. 851 00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:15,048 But you can't overlook all of it. 852 00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:18,760 You never knew what you were gonna get with Camacho. 853 00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:21,304 Macho was a champion fighter 854 00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:23,056 from the moment that bell rang 855 00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:24,182 to the end of that bell. 856 00:36:24,224 --> 00:36:26,893 And then that's when the demon came back. 857 00:36:26,935 --> 00:36:30,980 But when he said it's over and he shook it off, 858 00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,317 he became an amazing prodigy of boxing. 859 00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:37,237 Don't blink an eye 'cause Macho Man is back. 860 00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:39,781 I'm back. I'm way back! 861 00:36:40,698 --> 00:36:43,910 By the middle of 1986, he was 28 and 0. 862 00:36:43,952 --> 00:36:47,372 Set to face one of his toughest opponents yet, 863 00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:51,626 Puerto Rico's Edwin Rosario in Madison Square Garden. 864 00:36:54,254 --> 00:36:59,384 Edwin Rosario was a hell of a puncher. 865 00:36:59,801 --> 00:37:02,303 Basically one punch knockout hitter. 866 00:37:02,345 --> 00:37:05,932 Left hook or right hand, he could end the fight. 867 00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:07,201 But you thought going in, 868 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,285 he's not gonna touch Camacho. 869 00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:09,310 No one touches Camacho. 870 00:37:09,352 --> 00:37:11,437 Camacho doesn't get hit, he's too quick. 871 00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:15,316 You know, that Edwin Rosario fight, 872 00:37:15,358 --> 00:37:17,151 it was his toughest fight. 873 00:37:17,860 --> 00:37:19,737 He believed in his talent, 874 00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:23,324 and he had a yearning to show it. 875 00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:32,125 Good left hand by Camacho. 876 00:37:34,043 --> 00:37:35,253 Good left hand again. 877 00:37:35,295 --> 00:37:38,172 That one got Rosario's attention. 878 00:37:39,632 --> 00:37:42,176 And a five-punch combination. 879 00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:45,096 Camacho appears to have seized command 880 00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:46,472 of the fight at this point. 881 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,392 Check out the chants of Macho, Macho! 882 00:37:50,518 --> 00:37:52,645 I thought he was doing a great job, 883 00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:54,814 and then all of a sudden... 884 00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:00,504 There's the left hook. 885 00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:01,529 Very good exchange. 886 00:38:01,571 --> 00:38:02,739 And a good right hand too. 887 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:05,366 That snapped Camacho away for the moment. 888 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:09,954 A left hand! And Camacho's hurt! 889 00:38:09,996 --> 00:38:11,748 Rosario is right on him! 890 00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:13,708 That was the first time 891 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:15,668 that he really got hit. 892 00:38:16,878 --> 00:38:18,087 Hit! 893 00:38:18,129 --> 00:38:19,339 When you get hit hard, 894 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:20,590 you just get rocked. 895 00:38:20,631 --> 00:38:22,216 You feel funny. 896 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,552 You start, you know, 897 00:38:24,594 --> 00:38:27,764 seeing that person, like, go like that. 898 00:38:28,514 --> 00:38:30,933 Your heart starts pumping. 899 00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:33,436 And then you say I'm all right. 900 00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:35,355 He's hurt bad. 901 00:38:35,646 --> 00:38:36,522 I'm all right. 902 00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:37,750 Camacho now bleeding 903 00:38:37,774 --> 00:38:39,108 from the nose as well as the eye. 904 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:41,986 Camacho has never been in this kind of trouble. 905 00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:45,490 Now we'll see the kind of champion he is. 906 00:38:45,531 --> 00:38:46,449 You all right? 907 00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:47,784 All right. He's all right. 908 00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:49,494 - You all right, Hector? - Yeah. 909 00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:50,995 Camacho is gonna be pushed 910 00:38:51,037 --> 00:38:52,413 to the limit in this fight. 911 00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:56,000 Now, there were a couple of punches, 912 00:38:56,042 --> 00:38:58,711 and it came like that. And now he's jumped on Rosario. 913 00:38:58,753 --> 00:38:59,962 He stood his ground. 914 00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:03,216 He never fell. He never fell. He never got knocked out. 915 00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:05,510 He stood toe to toe. 916 00:39:05,551 --> 00:39:07,970 Camacho moves in. 917 00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:10,640 And he never backed out, and that's the champion 918 00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:13,393 that he was, that is the heart of a lion. 919 00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:14,560 That's what boxing is. 920 00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:16,396 Camacho got caught with that left hook, 921 00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:18,606 but he survived it. 922 00:39:18,648 --> 00:39:20,108 The great ones survive it. 923 00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:21,818 That's part of what makes them great. 924 00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:26,656 The winner, Hector "Macho" Camacho! 925 00:39:27,573 --> 00:39:30,743 It was his first fight that he had to use something 926 00:39:30,785 --> 00:39:33,538 other than skill to win. 927 00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:34,580 It was called will. 928 00:39:34,622 --> 00:39:37,291 Hector... Hector, that one tested 929 00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:38,543 your character a little bit. 930 00:39:38,584 --> 00:39:40,753 You were being smacked around pretty good. 931 00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:43,005 Larry, to be honest, 932 00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:46,050 this is the first fight I ever got hit consistent. 933 00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:47,552 It was a close fight 934 00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:49,262 I'll be the first one to admit it, 935 00:39:49,303 --> 00:39:51,389 but I was the more skillful fighter, 936 00:39:51,431 --> 00:39:52,807 and I proved it. 937 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,144 I remember after that fight, 938 00:39:56,185 --> 00:39:57,812 we go to the hotel, 939 00:39:57,854 --> 00:40:00,064 you know, he kept on saying to me, he's like, 940 00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:01,482 "How do I look?" 941 00:40:02,024 --> 00:40:04,152 He was, he was beat up. 942 00:40:04,861 --> 00:40:06,654 And he didn't understand it. 943 00:40:08,114 --> 00:40:09,657 He didn't understand it. 944 00:40:09,699 --> 00:40:10,658 He goes... 945 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:13,077 "Wow, this is what I've been doing to people all along. 946 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,788 I don't like it. I don't like to get hit." 947 00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:17,373 He was so conscious of, 948 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:19,834 of how everybody now perceived him. 949 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:25,298 'Cause now he didn't feel like he was the Macho Man. 950 00:40:26,299 --> 00:40:28,301 He was exposed a little bit. 951 00:40:28,342 --> 00:40:30,303 "Now what am I gonna do?" 952 00:40:37,643 --> 00:40:39,312 I didn't know whether he was going 953 00:40:39,353 --> 00:40:40,480 to continue boxing. 954 00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:43,858 Like, he was like really, really, really shook 955 00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:45,026 after that. 956 00:40:45,067 --> 00:40:47,528 He changed from that point on. 957 00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:50,198 There was a borning of a new Camacho. 958 00:40:50,781 --> 00:40:54,577 Where it started to go crooked, it started to go the wrong way. 959 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:57,038 There was a side of him that was never the same 960 00:40:57,079 --> 00:40:58,247 after the Rosario fight. 961 00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:00,750 He became more of a survivor and less of a fighter. 962 00:41:00,791 --> 00:41:02,543 The major story in this fight 963 00:41:02,585 --> 00:41:06,547 is that Camacho, can he be the Macho Man? 964 00:41:06,964 --> 00:41:09,217 And he started to figure, you know what? 965 00:41:09,258 --> 00:41:12,220 I'm not going to walk in and try to slug with anybody. 966 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,640 I am going to use all my assets, my speed, 967 00:41:15,681 --> 00:41:18,142 to keep the hell away. 968 00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:20,978 Davis again becoming more assertive. 969 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:23,064 Macho backing up. 970 00:41:23,773 --> 00:41:26,692 A kid like Camacho, there are certain insecurities 971 00:41:26,734 --> 00:41:28,569 that, that kind of bark at that door. 972 00:41:28,611 --> 00:41:31,239 There's always something barking at that door 973 00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,241 saying, I want to prove 974 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,409 that I'm better than people said I was. 975 00:41:35,451 --> 00:41:37,662 There's always something, it's never far away 976 00:41:37,703 --> 00:41:39,372 from that fricking door. 977 00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:44,168 And then the thing that we see that gets him through 978 00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:45,378 is the speed 979 00:41:45,419 --> 00:41:47,380 and the talent and the legs. 980 00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:49,924 I-it's just magnificent. 981 00:41:52,385 --> 00:41:54,845 But there's something that's attached to that. 982 00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:58,140 There's something that really started 983 00:41:58,182 --> 00:41:59,976 this whole journey for him. 984 00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:02,270 That he could believe in himself. 985 00:42:02,979 --> 00:42:05,648 And when I lose a kid like this... 986 00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:07,626 it's like a great wind blew, 987 00:42:07,650 --> 00:42:10,653 you're freaking the hell out of the ocean. 988 00:42:12,196 --> 00:42:14,949 I think there was a point where people definitely wanted 989 00:42:14,991 --> 00:42:16,450 Camacho to lose. 990 00:42:17,451 --> 00:42:20,788 I sure ain't no American boy, you know. 991 00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:24,792 That title they gave to me, I've seen it. 992 00:42:24,834 --> 00:42:29,005 In 1989, Hector fought Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini, 993 00:42:29,046 --> 00:42:33,134 going for a world championship in a third weight class. 994 00:42:33,175 --> 00:42:35,219 Against the Midwestern folk hero, 995 00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:37,597 Camacho's identity as a character 996 00:42:37,638 --> 00:42:41,183 and then a fighter was suddenly transformed. 997 00:42:41,225 --> 00:42:42,768 Certainly has been set up 998 00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:45,938 as the hero versus the villain. 999 00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:47,481 Camacho was personal. 1000 00:42:47,523 --> 00:42:48,858 We had a true dislike 1001 00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:50,735 and animosity towards each other 1002 00:42:50,776 --> 00:42:53,195 because of what he was doing, how he lived. 1003 00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:54,673 You say, this guy's crazy as cat shit. 1004 00:42:54,697 --> 00:42:56,824 You know, he's just out of his mind. 1005 00:42:57,366 --> 00:42:58,909 So I wanted to beat his ass. 1006 00:42:58,951 --> 00:43:00,804 I really wanted to give him a beating he deserved. 1007 00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:03,706 This feud has built up. 1008 00:43:05,958 --> 00:43:07,418 And this is just the way 1009 00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:08,562 Hector Camacho wants to fight. 1010 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:11,339 He wants to keep moving, keep on the run. 1011 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:14,383 So elusive is "Macho" Camacho. 1012 00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:15,777 He's bending underneath those punches. 1013 00:43:15,801 --> 00:43:18,304 It appears as though Camacho is just trying 1014 00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:20,556 to last through these rounds. 1015 00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:24,060 And this crowd does not like the holding-on tactics 1016 00:43:24,101 --> 00:43:25,603 that Hector Camacho is using. 1017 00:43:25,645 --> 00:43:27,647 You know, all he did was run, that whole fight. 1018 00:43:27,688 --> 00:43:28,731 He didn't do nothing. 1019 00:43:28,773 --> 00:43:29,940 He's holding on. 1020 00:43:29,982 --> 00:43:31,622 He's trying to make it through this round. 1021 00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:35,237 I thought I won the fight. 1022 00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:36,879 I certainly thought I dictated the fight. 1023 00:43:36,906 --> 00:43:38,240 I thought I controlled the fight. 1024 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:42,161 115 to 113 for the winner... 1025 00:43:42,203 --> 00:43:45,748 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 1026 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:50,252 The pro-Mancini crowd, of course, 1027 00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:53,589 voicing their disapproval. 1028 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:56,008 A lot of the fans went south on him. 1029 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,389 So he had to reinvent himself... 1030 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:04,767 and he did. 1031 00:44:06,727 --> 00:44:08,396 He met Amy. 1032 00:44:08,437 --> 00:44:10,690 Beautiful, beautiful Amy. 1033 00:44:10,731 --> 00:44:11,857 He fell in love with her. 1034 00:44:11,899 --> 00:44:13,943 And for me, that was the love of his life. 1035 00:44:14,276 --> 00:44:16,070 They both was meant for each other. 1036 00:44:16,112 --> 00:44:17,947 He kept it real with her. 1037 00:44:21,409 --> 00:44:23,452 Oh, this is it, watch. 1038 00:44:25,371 --> 00:44:26,789 Look at that picture. 1039 00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:29,875 I'm telling you, he walked around the house 1040 00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:31,877 butt naked all the time. 1041 00:44:32,503 --> 00:44:34,422 Look at the dog, poor dog. 1042 00:44:36,006 --> 00:44:38,759 Everybody was a fan of Macho's in our neighborhood. 1043 00:44:38,801 --> 00:44:40,177 Just everybody was a fan. 1044 00:44:40,219 --> 00:44:41,571 You know, I mean, I was watching him 1045 00:44:41,595 --> 00:44:44,056 when I was 12, 13 years old, fight. 1046 00:44:44,098 --> 00:44:47,435 You know what I mean? And we would go to the events. 1047 00:44:47,935 --> 00:44:49,478 On my 18th birthday, 1048 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,730 I was standing at a payphone 1049 00:44:50,771 --> 00:44:53,607 on Second Avenue and 112th Street. 1050 00:44:53,649 --> 00:44:55,234 He pulls up, you know, and he's like, 1051 00:44:55,276 --> 00:44:57,319 "See that girl right there?" He told his friend, 1052 00:44:57,361 --> 00:44:58,714 "See that girl right there, that's the one 1053 00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:00,281 that's gonna have my babies." 1054 00:45:00,322 --> 00:45:02,116 And I was like, ew, you nasty! 1055 00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:05,745 I said, bye. And that's how it all started. 1056 00:45:05,786 --> 00:45:09,123 We got married on Valentine's Day in court. 1057 00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:13,461 I settled down my family, 1058 00:45:13,502 --> 00:45:16,005 me and Amy, it's great together. 1059 00:45:16,046 --> 00:45:18,507 You know. We are great for each other 1060 00:45:18,799 --> 00:45:21,260 and this is amazing, you know, how... 1061 00:45:21,302 --> 00:45:25,347 I knew that this was going to bring a change in me. 1062 00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:28,184 I don't need to sneak out to the clubs, 1063 00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:31,854 sneak out with this girl, 'cause I have my family. 1064 00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:34,064 When they got married, he was in a... 1065 00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:35,608 he was doing so good. 1066 00:45:35,649 --> 00:45:38,319 She was there to help him at all times, you know. 1067 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,614 Helping him with a fight, made sure that he trained. 1068 00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:42,656 Amy ran the camp. 1069 00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:45,159 Amy did not only take care of Camacho, 1070 00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,535 she took care of all of us. 1071 00:45:46,577 --> 00:45:49,330 She was everything that we lived and we did. 1072 00:45:49,371 --> 00:45:51,040 She was there for all of us. 1073 00:45:51,081 --> 00:45:53,501 You know, like, she was real strong with Mach, 1074 00:45:53,542 --> 00:45:55,544 and she was good for him. 1075 00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:58,756 I feel so in control, 1076 00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:01,383 you know, in control of a life, 1077 00:46:01,425 --> 00:46:02,927 a world, you know, my world! 1078 00:46:02,968 --> 00:46:05,012 As long as I stay in that little world, 1079 00:46:05,054 --> 00:46:07,181 ain't nothing gonna go wrong. 1080 00:46:08,808 --> 00:46:11,268 - What time is it? - - Macho time! 1081 00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:14,230 - What time is it? - -Macho time! 1082 00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:18,359 By 1990, the still undefeated Hector Camacho 1083 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,653 had firmly taken on a new evolution 1084 00:46:20,694 --> 00:46:24,698 in his identity, boxing superstar villain. 1085 00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,742 He still had his fans for sure 1086 00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:28,619 but also thousands who would buy tickets 1087 00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:31,831 hoping to see him finally get knocked out. 1088 00:46:31,872 --> 00:46:33,457 Which made Vinny Pazienza, 1089 00:46:33,499 --> 00:46:36,502 the beloved blue collar slugger from New England, 1090 00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:38,254 the perfect opponent. 1091 00:46:38,838 --> 00:46:43,259 We did a tour. The "Put Up or Shut Up" tour. 1092 00:46:43,759 --> 00:46:46,095 He was a little wilder than I was. 1093 00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:47,388 Macho time! 1094 00:46:47,429 --> 00:46:48,973 Traveling around with Hector Camacho. 1095 00:46:49,014 --> 00:46:52,184 You bring sleeping pills, you bring ear plugs, 1096 00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:54,395 and in some cases you go to the extremes 1097 00:46:54,436 --> 00:46:55,563 and you bring razorblades. 1098 00:46:55,604 --> 00:46:56,915 In case he gets real hot and heavy, 1099 00:46:56,939 --> 00:46:58,416 you go back to the room and you end it all. 1100 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,359 There was a lot of hype. Him and Pazienza 1101 00:47:00,401 --> 00:47:01,694 were going back and forth. 1102 00:47:01,735 --> 00:47:03,070 If this is his hometown 1103 00:47:03,112 --> 00:47:06,699 if he's fighting here, let him hype it up. 1104 00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:07,867 Why should I be here? 1105 00:47:07,908 --> 00:47:10,244 You know, that was just where his marketability... 1106 00:47:10,286 --> 00:47:12,913 And he was very charismatic and so was Vinny Pazienza. 1107 00:47:12,955 --> 00:47:16,333 And he goes on and on, and he's a schizophrenic little dude. 1108 00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:19,503 I mean, he's a wannabe, he's a "Macho" Camacho wannabe. 1109 00:47:19,545 --> 00:47:22,131 He's, uh, in a world all his own. 1110 00:47:22,172 --> 00:47:24,341 He's a legend in his own mind. 1111 00:47:24,383 --> 00:47:25,801 The fight was secondary. 1112 00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,094 The pre-fight buildup was... 1113 00:47:27,136 --> 00:47:30,180 They used language and they insulted each other 1114 00:47:30,222 --> 00:47:32,308 in ways in our politically correct world today, 1115 00:47:32,349 --> 00:47:33,559 you could never get away with. 1116 00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:35,060 You know? But anyway... 1117 00:47:35,102 --> 00:47:38,606 - Hector, you leave... - I'm telling 1118 00:47:41,901 --> 00:47:43,777 He got so amped for me, 1119 00:47:43,819 --> 00:47:46,363 he even said to me before the fight, 1120 00:47:46,405 --> 00:47:48,490 "I got ready for you, Vinny." 1121 00:47:49,158 --> 00:47:51,744 That's it. Then it was on from there. 1122 00:47:51,785 --> 00:47:53,162 And the excitement 1123 00:47:53,203 --> 00:47:55,623 starting to build at ringside. 1124 00:47:58,626 --> 00:48:01,795 Donald Trump looking on. 1125 00:48:04,131 --> 00:48:08,636 And it's Pazienza working himself into a frenzy. 1126 00:48:08,677 --> 00:48:12,222 And here he comes in full headdress. 1127 00:48:12,264 --> 00:48:14,350 Hector Camacho! 1128 00:48:14,391 --> 00:48:17,394 Likes to paint himself as the villain. 1129 00:48:17,436 --> 00:48:18,854 Likes to provoke people. 1130 00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:21,106 Many people pay money to see 1131 00:48:21,148 --> 00:48:24,902 that someone will shut the mouth of "Macho" Camacho. 1132 00:48:24,944 --> 00:48:26,612 Camacho told me, 1133 00:48:26,654 --> 00:48:28,781 "I think this is one of my easier fights," 1134 00:48:28,822 --> 00:48:32,326 but I always kept thinking about that Rosario fight. 1135 00:48:32,368 --> 00:48:34,495 You know, is he gonna have it in his mindset 1136 00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:36,288 to just be defensive? 1137 00:48:36,330 --> 00:48:38,707 Important fight for, for Camacho. 1138 00:48:38,749 --> 00:48:41,126 He needs to regain support of the people. 1139 00:48:41,168 --> 00:48:42,812 I don't know if he's got that in him anymore. 1140 00:48:42,836 --> 00:48:45,255 He seems conceited. We'll see. 1141 00:48:45,297 --> 00:48:47,216 I thought I was gonna wreck him. 1142 00:48:47,257 --> 00:48:49,843 I thought I was gonna go right through him. 1143 00:48:49,885 --> 00:48:52,221 Pazienza charging in. 1144 00:48:52,262 --> 00:48:54,515 I was trying to rough him up, 1145 00:48:54,556 --> 00:48:58,227 but he was much stronger... 1146 00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:00,396 and faster. 1147 00:49:00,437 --> 00:49:01,772 Good quickness by Camacho. 1148 00:49:01,814 --> 00:49:03,357 Than I even believed. 1149 00:49:03,649 --> 00:49:07,653 It's like, "Oh boy, this is gonna be a long night." 1150 00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:11,365 And he makes Pazienza pay for missing. 1151 00:49:11,407 --> 00:49:13,283 Surprising that Camacho is willing 1152 00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:14,868 to mix it up with Pazienza. 1153 00:49:14,910 --> 00:49:18,539 He stood and fought. There was no dancing. 1154 00:49:18,706 --> 00:49:20,416 He pretty much stayed in the pocket. 1155 00:49:20,457 --> 00:49:23,627 He fought Pazienza on Pazienza's terms. 1156 00:49:23,669 --> 00:49:24,753 And he outfought him. 1157 00:49:24,795 --> 00:49:26,839 When he was at his best, man, 1158 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,007 a thing of beauty. 1159 00:49:28,048 --> 00:49:29,383 He was a thing of beauty. 1160 00:49:30,009 --> 00:49:31,135 That was a fight. 1161 00:49:31,176 --> 00:49:32,678 Camacho with this performance 1162 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,347 will regain a lot of the respect 1163 00:49:35,848 --> 00:49:37,433 of the boxing crowd. 1164 00:49:38,142 --> 00:49:39,935 They called it "Put Up or Shut Up," 1165 00:49:39,977 --> 00:49:42,730 and I think both fighters have put up pretty well. 1166 00:49:42,771 --> 00:49:44,481 This is a heck of a fight. 1167 00:49:44,523 --> 00:49:45,649 Really impressive. 1168 00:49:45,691 --> 00:49:47,776 And that's it. 1169 00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,989 The winner and still champion, 1170 00:49:52,031 --> 00:49:55,451 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 1171 00:49:55,492 --> 00:49:59,079 And indeed tonight, it was Macho time. 1172 00:50:01,623 --> 00:50:03,042 Yo. 1173 00:50:07,087 --> 00:50:08,088 Macho time. 1174 00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:10,841 Man, we had a riot in that plane, man. 1175 00:50:11,133 --> 00:50:12,426 We had a fucking riot, man. 1176 00:50:12,468 --> 00:50:14,219 He got so amped to fight me, 1177 00:50:14,261 --> 00:50:15,929 he got so jacked up, 1178 00:50:15,971 --> 00:50:17,765 he knew it was going to be a rumble. 1179 00:50:17,806 --> 00:50:19,141 Thank you. - Macho Man. 1180 00:50:19,183 --> 00:50:21,977 So, he didn't do no drugs before the fight. 1181 00:50:22,019 --> 00:50:24,229 He got in every night early. 1182 00:50:24,271 --> 00:50:26,899 When that happens to guys that are a little wild 1183 00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:30,027 and over the edge and, you know, like to party, 1184 00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:32,154 they're never the same after. 1185 00:50:32,196 --> 00:50:35,074 They're never the same 'cause they can never come back 1186 00:50:35,115 --> 00:50:36,909 and do what they did. 1187 00:50:37,117 --> 00:50:38,952 -Do your thing, too. We wanna get you... 1188 00:50:38,994 --> 00:50:40,537 He went crazy with the drugs. 1189 00:50:40,579 --> 00:50:42,498 Oh my God, like right after. 1190 00:50:42,539 --> 00:50:43,916 And he was never the same. 1191 00:50:43,957 --> 00:50:46,752 Don't move back. I ain't scaring you. 1192 00:50:47,753 --> 00:50:52,591 But yeah, we'll have some fun. We'll have some fun. 1193 00:50:52,633 --> 00:50:54,968 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 1194 00:50:55,344 --> 00:50:57,513 Undefeated 38 and 0. 1195 00:50:57,554 --> 00:51:00,432 On February 23rd, 1991, 1196 00:51:00,474 --> 00:51:03,185 Hector Camacho finally lost a fight, 1197 00:51:03,227 --> 00:51:05,395 but not without controversy. 1198 00:51:05,437 --> 00:51:06,647 And then Camacho, 1199 00:51:06,688 --> 00:51:08,774 well, Camacho just starts fighting. 1200 00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,486 Against Greg Haugen, Camacho lost a point 1201 00:51:12,528 --> 00:51:14,822 for throwing a punch between rounds. 1202 00:51:14,863 --> 00:51:18,951 And new champion, Greg... 1203 00:51:18,992 --> 00:51:20,828 But just three months later, 1204 00:51:20,869 --> 00:51:22,496 he'd avenge the defeat 1205 00:51:22,538 --> 00:51:24,498 and reclaim his WBO title. 1206 00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:26,542 Will it be a bitter end 1207 00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:28,919 or will it be a glorious end? 1208 00:51:28,961 --> 00:51:34,383 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 1209 00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:37,886 Macho calls me up one time, 1210 00:51:37,928 --> 00:51:40,097 I got this beautiful brand new Jaguar. 1211 00:51:40,139 --> 00:51:41,932 He goes, "I need you to get on a plane. 1212 00:51:41,974 --> 00:51:45,060 I want you to drive me home to Florida." 1213 00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:47,354 "We're not gonna stop, Macho, right?" 1214 00:51:47,396 --> 00:51:49,606 He's goes, "No, I promise you I'm going to behave." 1215 00:51:49,648 --> 00:51:50,732 I said, "Okay." 1216 00:51:50,774 --> 00:51:52,192 We get in this car, we're driving. 1217 00:51:52,234 --> 00:51:53,527 We're heading close to Texas. 1218 00:51:53,569 --> 00:51:55,487 I said, "Let's pull over for the night." 1219 00:51:55,529 --> 00:51:56,738 He goes, "No, you just need to 1220 00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:57,841 close your eyes for a little bit. 1221 00:51:57,865 --> 00:51:59,491 I'll keep driving." 1222 00:51:59,533 --> 00:52:00,909 And I'm like, "Macho." 1223 00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:04,288 He goes, "I'm okay. I won't go speed." 1224 00:52:04,329 --> 00:52:06,290 I said, "Okay," and I fall asleep. 1225 00:52:06,331 --> 00:52:08,458 I don't know how long I was... closed my eyes, 1226 00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:09,501 but it wasn't long. 1227 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:11,962 He taps me on my shoulder, he goes, 1228 00:52:12,004 --> 00:52:14,381 "Hey, I need money for the toll." 1229 00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:17,342 And I'm like, "The toll?" 1230 00:52:17,384 --> 00:52:19,845 And I opened my eyes... 1231 00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:21,680 and I see the border. 1232 00:52:21,722 --> 00:52:25,184 We're in the line to the border into Mexico. 1233 00:52:25,642 --> 00:52:27,311 I'm like, "What are you doing?" 1234 00:52:27,352 --> 00:52:29,771 The patrol looks, and they've waved for us 1235 00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,607 to go into the security check. 1236 00:52:31,940 --> 00:52:33,901 And I'm like, "It's okay, Macho. No problem. 1237 00:52:33,942 --> 00:52:36,278 I'll take care of this. Let me talk." 1238 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,405 He goes, "Yeah, but that's not the problem. 1239 00:52:38,447 --> 00:52:41,200 "I got a little present in the trunk. 1240 00:52:41,909 --> 00:52:44,828 I got a, I got a kilo in the trunk." 1241 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:47,414 And I said, "Okay, Macho, put the top down." 1242 00:52:47,456 --> 00:52:48,957 It was a convertible Jag. 1243 00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:50,667 "And I need you to do Macho time 1244 00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,461 right now, right here." 1245 00:52:52,753 --> 00:52:56,006 He puts the top down, he jumps up out of this car, 1246 00:52:56,048 --> 00:52:59,051 he jumps onto the hood of this $90,000 Jag, 1247 00:52:59,092 --> 00:53:00,844 and he stands up and he's screaming 1248 00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:02,179 "Where's Chavez." 1249 00:53:02,221 --> 00:53:03,472 Everybody went crazy. 1250 00:53:03,513 --> 00:53:07,893 The border patrol comes, everybody started, "Camacho." 1251 00:53:07,935 --> 00:53:11,230 The border patrol guy passes me with a dog. 1252 00:53:11,271 --> 00:53:13,315 The dog goes crazy. 1253 00:53:13,357 --> 00:53:16,485 The dog starts barking and scratching. 1254 00:53:16,526 --> 00:53:18,070 I look in the rear view mirror, 1255 00:53:18,111 --> 00:53:19,947 and the border patrol takes the dog 1256 00:53:19,988 --> 00:53:21,382 and hits him, like that, he goes, "Shut up. 1257 00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:22,366 That's Camacho." 1258 00:53:22,407 --> 00:53:24,284 I saw the dog's face. The dog looked like... 1259 00:53:24,493 --> 00:53:28,538 And they opened the border and they make us make a U-turn. 1260 00:53:28,747 --> 00:53:31,291 We turn around, we get out of the border 1261 00:53:31,333 --> 00:53:33,293 and he is white as a ghost. 1262 00:53:33,502 --> 00:53:35,754 And I look at him, he goes, "Don't say nothing to me 1263 00:53:35,796 --> 00:53:38,423 because I just changed my life." 1264 00:53:38,465 --> 00:53:41,593 He goes, "Pull over right now." 1265 00:53:41,635 --> 00:53:43,428 I pull over, he opens the trunk, 1266 00:53:43,470 --> 00:53:45,639 he takes out a tire iron 1267 00:53:45,889 --> 00:53:48,141 and he digs a hole in the side of the highway 1268 00:53:48,183 --> 00:53:49,184 and he buries this thing. 1269 00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:51,687 He goes, "That's it. It's over for me. 1270 00:53:52,145 --> 00:53:53,272 That changed my life." 1271 00:53:53,313 --> 00:53:55,482 I'm like, "Good, 'cause you know what? I'm tired. 1272 00:53:55,524 --> 00:53:57,734 "Let's go stop at a hotel because you just, 1273 00:53:57,776 --> 00:53:58,920 you just messed up our schedule." 1274 00:53:58,944 --> 00:54:00,195 He goes, "Yeah, you're right." 1275 00:54:00,237 --> 00:54:02,739 So we go. We go in a hotel, we check in, 1276 00:54:02,781 --> 00:54:04,032 I go to sleep. 1277 00:54:04,366 --> 00:54:06,243 I must've woken up two or three hours later. 1278 00:54:06,285 --> 00:54:08,996 I wake up, and he's nowhere about. He's gone. 1279 00:54:09,037 --> 00:54:10,580 I'm like, "Did he just leave 1280 00:54:10,622 --> 00:54:11,999 and put me through all this shit?" 1281 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,085 When all of a sudden, the door opens up 1282 00:54:15,419 --> 00:54:17,296 and he's covered in dirt. 1283 00:54:17,504 --> 00:54:18,815 I'm like, "Dude, what are you doing?" 1284 00:54:18,839 --> 00:54:20,817 He goes, "Do you remember where I parked and pulled 1285 00:54:20,841 --> 00:54:21,842 and buried that shit?" 1286 00:54:21,883 --> 00:54:23,802 He spent the whole night just digging holes, 1287 00:54:23,844 --> 00:54:26,596 trying to find his lost treasure. 1288 00:54:26,638 --> 00:54:29,516 I winded up dropping him off two days later. 1289 00:54:30,183 --> 00:54:31,226 I said, "Amy, here he is. 1290 00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:33,979 I don't want to talk to him for a year." 1291 00:54:36,481 --> 00:54:39,318 In 1992, now 30 years old, 1292 00:54:39,359 --> 00:54:42,446 Camacho prepared for the pinnacle of his career. 1293 00:54:42,487 --> 00:54:45,324 A match-up with the legendary Mexican icon 1294 00:54:45,365 --> 00:54:47,659 Julio Cesar Chavez. 1295 00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:55,500 Chavez's record was an incredible 81 and O. 1296 00:55:01,590 --> 00:55:03,091 Macho time. 1297 00:55:06,303 --> 00:55:08,138 Getting ready for the Chavez fight. 1298 00:55:08,180 --> 00:55:09,973 We stayed in Ohio 1299 00:55:10,349 --> 00:55:13,185 uh, in Don King's training camp. 1300 00:55:13,226 --> 00:55:16,730 That was the biggest fight, and it just so happens 1301 00:55:16,772 --> 00:55:19,816 I was actually carrying my second child 1302 00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:21,234 during that training. 1303 00:55:21,276 --> 00:55:23,111 As I was driving to the hospital, 1304 00:55:23,153 --> 00:55:25,781 he was running on the side of the van like this. 1305 00:55:25,822 --> 00:55:28,200 Macho time! Macho time. 1306 00:55:29,618 --> 00:55:30,911 So, the fighters all showed up 1307 00:55:30,952 --> 00:55:32,412 at the hospital when I had the baby. 1308 00:55:32,454 --> 00:55:35,457 But it was, it just brought so much light, life, love 1309 00:55:35,499 --> 00:55:39,127 and everything into our world at that particular moment. 1310 00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:42,172 It's like we were so close knit at that time, 1311 00:55:42,214 --> 00:55:43,840 like nothing could break us. 1312 00:55:51,264 --> 00:55:54,434 You can, you can see he is anxious to fight. 1313 00:55:54,476 --> 00:55:56,812 It was just really a big and special moment. 1314 00:55:56,853 --> 00:55:59,314 Everybody was just waiting for this fight. 1315 00:55:59,356 --> 00:56:00,857 Are you surprised at how, 1316 00:56:00,899 --> 00:56:02,943 how much hype has gone on about this fight? 1317 00:56:02,984 --> 00:56:04,611 It sold out in two weeks. 1318 00:56:04,653 --> 00:56:06,822 19,000 seats in two weeks. 1319 00:56:06,863 --> 00:56:09,449 The greatest thing any promoter can ever say 1320 00:56:09,491 --> 00:56:14,371 is that, "The sign says sold out! Sold out." 1321 00:56:14,413 --> 00:56:17,290 Macho Man, one of boxing's most charismatic, 1322 00:56:17,332 --> 00:56:19,793 colorful, and fun-loving characters. 1323 00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:21,920 I just hope he doesn't catch cold. 1324 00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:25,757 Fight fans, here we go! 1325 00:56:25,799 --> 00:56:30,804 This is it, the bout you've all been waiting for! 1326 00:56:31,596 --> 00:56:34,099 So, the long-awaited showdown. 1327 00:56:34,141 --> 00:56:37,018 Chavez and Camacho. 1328 00:56:50,907 --> 00:56:53,034 There's the opening bell. 1329 00:56:53,076 --> 00:56:54,828 And here we go. 1330 00:56:55,704 --> 00:56:58,415 Obviously, a pro-Chavez crowd. 1331 00:56:58,457 --> 00:57:00,584 They want him to give Camacho a beating. 1332 00:57:00,625 --> 00:57:02,043 Winning the fight isn't enough. 1333 00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:03,521 It's gonna take an awful lot of heart 1334 00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:04,671 to take the kind of pounding 1335 00:57:04,713 --> 00:57:06,548 that Chavez can give you. 1336 00:57:07,632 --> 00:57:12,429 Chavez represented all the nightmares 1337 00:57:12,471 --> 00:57:15,182 he was trying to avoid 1338 00:57:15,223 --> 00:57:17,517 in the Rosario fight after he got hurt. 1339 00:57:19,186 --> 00:57:21,813 A guy who comes forward, a guy who could punch, 1340 00:57:21,855 --> 00:57:23,565 a guy who's resilient, 1341 00:57:23,607 --> 00:57:26,902 a guy who on this particular night 1342 00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:28,320 was relentless. 1343 00:57:28,361 --> 00:57:29,738 Camacho looks like a guy 1344 00:57:29,779 --> 00:57:31,156 that's standing under a cliff 1345 00:57:31,198 --> 00:57:32,240 waiting for it to fall 1346 00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:34,784 because he's getting pummeled right now. 1347 00:57:34,826 --> 00:57:38,163 What a workman is Chavez. Oh! 1348 00:57:38,205 --> 00:57:40,123 And it's like, somebody said, 1349 00:57:40,165 --> 00:57:42,167 "Now, you can't have your legs. 1350 00:57:42,209 --> 00:57:44,009 "Now, you're gonna have to take the punishment 1351 00:57:44,044 --> 00:57:46,880 that people wanted to see you take that night." 1352 00:57:46,922 --> 00:57:48,965 It's survival time, Bobby. 1353 00:57:49,007 --> 00:57:50,008 It's not fight time. 1354 00:57:50,050 --> 00:57:51,927 He is in survival mode. 1355 00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,142 And it was almost like he said, 1356 00:57:59,184 --> 00:58:01,311 "I'm gonna take that punishment. 1357 00:58:01,353 --> 00:58:02,729 "I'm gonna make you all happy. 1358 00:58:02,771 --> 00:58:04,564 "Gonna make all you freaking guys happy 1359 00:58:04,606 --> 00:58:06,042 "that hate me because I was too fast, 1360 00:58:06,066 --> 00:58:07,567 "I was too slick. 1361 00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:12,239 "And you know what? 1362 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,883 "I'm gonna freaking give you what you want. 1363 00:58:13,907 --> 00:58:16,409 "I'm gonna take the punishment that you think I deserve, 1364 00:58:16,451 --> 00:58:18,078 that I should have took." 1365 00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:19,579 And he took punishment. 1366 00:58:26,294 --> 00:58:28,296 Oh, he's really getting hurt now. 1367 00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:31,049 -Punch your way out! Punch your way out! 1368 00:58:31,091 --> 00:58:32,467 He is getting hurt. 1369 00:58:32,509 --> 00:58:35,971 Hector -He proved to me he's the macho man. 1370 00:58:36,429 --> 00:58:37,429 He took a pounding. 1371 00:58:37,597 --> 00:58:40,141 He took a pounding, he stood there fighting. 1372 00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:41,935 Two words. All Chavez. 1373 00:58:41,977 --> 00:58:45,438 Camacho is just taking a beating. 1374 00:58:46,648 --> 00:58:48,316 He had guts. 1375 00:59:07,794 --> 00:59:08,878 And then he lost. 1376 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,631 And then it just, it just messed up his mind. 1377 00:59:11,673 --> 00:59:15,468 Macho time! Macho time! 1378 00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:17,887 With the Chavez fight, that's probably where 1379 00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:20,473 I got to see the main plot line 1380 00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:23,935 of what really was going on with the, with the drugs. 1381 00:59:23,977 --> 00:59:25,395 Macho's addiction was so bad 1382 00:59:25,437 --> 00:59:27,814 that he would continue to go back to Don King. 1383 00:59:27,856 --> 00:59:29,941 And Don King would, you know, give 1384 00:59:29,983 --> 00:59:31,610 what he would call an advance, 1385 00:59:31,651 --> 00:59:33,570 and Macho was always looking for advances. 1386 00:59:33,612 --> 00:59:35,322 Come on, put your hands in the air! 1387 00:59:35,363 --> 00:59:36,489 Put your hands in the air! 1388 00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:41,620 Camacho lived his life on the edge. 1389 00:59:42,954 --> 00:59:44,998 You just have to believe that lifestyle 1390 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,043 and the abuse that... what it causes, 1391 00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:51,129 it's got to diminish any athlete. 1392 00:59:52,839 --> 00:59:54,382 He was involved in drugs. 1393 00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:57,177 Is he... is he ready? Is he in shape? 1394 00:59:57,802 --> 01:00:01,014 There's always that cloud above hanging over him. 1395 01:00:01,222 --> 01:00:03,642 - Hey, what time is it? - Macho time. 1396 01:00:03,683 --> 01:00:06,478 - -Hey, man, you late. - Yeah, I know. 1397 01:00:07,937 --> 01:00:09,373 You could have everything in the world 1398 01:00:09,397 --> 01:00:11,024 and still have nothing. 1399 01:00:13,234 --> 01:00:14,736 And money does not make you happy, 1400 01:00:14,778 --> 01:00:19,699 it only buys you time to realize you're not happy. 1401 01:00:19,741 --> 01:00:22,243 And when a demon lives inside you, 1402 01:00:22,285 --> 01:00:23,870 he doesn't leave. 1403 01:00:24,913 --> 01:00:27,415 Hey, the Mach, the Mach. 1404 01:00:27,457 --> 01:00:28,667 Smoothie, baby. 1405 01:00:28,708 --> 01:00:30,627 Look like a butterfly, sting like a bee. 1406 01:00:30,669 --> 01:00:33,338 Yes, I want you to do it, baby. Let them know what's happening. 1407 01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:35,507 Back to the same crowd. 1408 01:00:35,548 --> 01:00:37,759 Crowd come back, this mess everything, 1409 01:00:37,801 --> 01:00:41,763 everything that Amy built to change him, just to go back. 1410 01:00:46,726 --> 01:00:47,912 Macho did what he wanted, 1411 01:00:47,936 --> 01:00:51,356 how he wanted, and when he wanted. 1412 01:00:51,398 --> 01:00:54,734 I was actually his enabler for a very long time. 1413 01:00:54,776 --> 01:00:57,404 What I thought was good and helping him and protecting him 1414 01:00:57,445 --> 01:00:59,614 was actually helping him do 1415 01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:01,908 what he was doing and get away with it. 1416 01:01:02,325 --> 01:01:04,119 -Hector, who is this? Tell me who is this? 1417 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,287 My son and my wife. 1418 01:01:06,329 --> 01:01:07,414 Who's this? 1419 01:01:07,455 --> 01:01:09,416 That's Justin. That's my son. 1420 01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:12,252 And I would tell him, "If you're gonna do that, 1421 01:01:12,293 --> 01:01:14,963 don't do it around the kids. Make sure you come home sober." 1422 01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:16,214 I didn't know any better. 1423 01:01:16,256 --> 01:01:17,549 Once I grew up, I realized 1424 01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:19,342 this, this, it just wasn't for me 1425 01:01:19,384 --> 01:01:22,011 to be in that environment like that, you know. 1426 01:01:22,053 --> 01:01:25,306 I can't have these kids around this craziness. 1427 01:01:30,145 --> 01:01:31,563 And she fought. 1428 01:01:31,604 --> 01:01:34,983 She had done everything, even left him. 1429 01:01:35,024 --> 01:01:38,069 Went back with him. Helped him go to a rehab. 1430 01:01:38,111 --> 01:01:42,282 -I put him in a rehab. We then had a wedding. 1431 01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:46,661 I did it just to help him graduate. 1432 01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:49,748 I stood by his side and I had his back, 1433 01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:52,083 but I knew Macho was never going 1434 01:01:52,125 --> 01:01:54,252 to stop doing what he was doing 1435 01:01:54,294 --> 01:01:57,547 because he blatantly said, 1436 01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:59,924 "I like it. I love it. 1437 01:01:59,966 --> 01:02:01,050 "You met me like this, 1438 01:02:01,092 --> 01:02:02,677 and I'm going to stay like this." 1439 01:02:04,804 --> 01:02:06,639 He was running away from love. 1440 01:02:06,681 --> 01:02:08,349 He was running away from family. 1441 01:02:08,391 --> 01:02:11,227 He was always running away 1442 01:02:11,770 --> 01:02:15,190 because everything for him was the streets. 1443 01:02:15,231 --> 01:02:17,150 He didn't want to give it up. 1444 01:02:18,234 --> 01:02:19,778 After the Chavez fight, 1445 01:02:19,819 --> 01:02:22,947 Macho's name kept getting him big match-ups. 1446 01:02:24,532 --> 01:02:28,536 The outfits were the same, but the storyline had changed. 1447 01:02:28,578 --> 01:02:32,582 He was just another boxer trying to hang on to stardom. 1448 01:02:32,957 --> 01:02:37,086 Camacho did what fighters do, continued to fight. 1449 01:02:37,128 --> 01:02:40,590 Middleweight champion of the world, 1450 01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:44,344 Hector "Macho" Camacho! 1451 01:02:44,385 --> 01:02:48,890 He just refuses to let go. 1452 01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:50,725 I'm anxious to fight again. 1453 01:02:50,767 --> 01:02:52,018 I'm anxious to look good. 1454 01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:56,147 Sleeping already, you know, eating right, training. 1455 01:02:56,189 --> 01:02:59,651 Shadow box, jump rope, hit the bag, 1456 01:02:59,692 --> 01:03:01,277 talk shit, and that's how you do it. 1457 01:03:01,319 --> 01:03:03,404 Macho was 34 years old, 1458 01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:05,615 and Sugar Ray Leonard was 40, 1459 01:03:05,657 --> 01:03:07,325 coming out of another retirement 1460 01:03:07,367 --> 01:03:11,746 when they matched up in 1997 in Atlantic City. 1461 01:03:11,788 --> 01:03:13,331 Sugar Ray Leonard. 1462 01:03:13,373 --> 01:03:15,542 He was fighting against Sugar Ray Leonard. 1463 01:03:15,583 --> 01:03:17,836 He had a great deal of respect for Leonard. 1464 01:03:17,877 --> 01:03:20,004 Even we was all like, "Oh my God, 1465 01:03:20,046 --> 01:03:21,440 you know, what's going to happen here?" 1466 01:03:21,464 --> 01:03:23,224 Like, "Why did you take this fight? That's... 1467 01:03:23,258 --> 01:03:25,051 You know, you idolize him a little bit." 1468 01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:26,886 Camacho was the villain in that fight. 1469 01:03:26,928 --> 01:03:30,223 He was definitely, you know, the bad guy, 1470 01:03:30,265 --> 01:03:31,558 but he was supremely confident. 1471 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,810 Well, you know he'd try his darnedest 1472 01:03:33,852 --> 01:03:36,312 to upstage Sugar Ray Leonard. 1473 01:03:36,354 --> 01:03:39,899 With Hector, we both naturally were past our prime, 1474 01:03:39,941 --> 01:03:44,195 but I just felt that I was a bigger man. 1475 01:03:44,237 --> 01:03:48,616 And I was. Smarter, stronger, and all those kind of things. 1476 01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:52,453 Hector Camacho feels that Sugar Ray Leonard 1477 01:03:52,495 --> 01:03:55,623 should not consider him a safe opponent 1478 01:03:55,665 --> 01:03:58,251 for his first fight back. 1479 01:03:58,293 --> 01:04:00,962 Then the first time he threw a punch, 1480 01:04:01,504 --> 01:04:03,464 he threw, pow! 1481 01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:04,757 And I said, "Wow, that hurt." 1482 01:04:04,799 --> 01:04:06,759 And that gives Camacho 1483 01:04:06,801 --> 01:04:08,261 loads of confidence. 1484 01:04:08,303 --> 01:04:10,221 And that was his redemption, 1485 01:04:10,263 --> 01:04:12,724 to prove he was tough. To show that. 1486 01:04:12,765 --> 01:04:15,226 And I tried, I tried the best that I could 1487 01:04:15,268 --> 01:04:17,103 to just go the distance. 1488 01:04:17,145 --> 01:04:18,539 Camacho has looked as good 1489 01:04:18,563 --> 01:04:22,066 as I've seen him look in a long, long time. 1490 01:04:22,108 --> 01:04:25,862 Oh, good shot there by... Leonard is down! 1491 01:04:25,904 --> 01:04:27,238 Camacho beating Leonard 1492 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,323 is downplayed by people 1493 01:04:28,364 --> 01:04:29,991 because obviously, Ray was at the end. 1494 01:04:30,033 --> 01:04:31,468 Literally at the end, his last fight. 1495 01:04:31,492 --> 01:04:33,077 Sugar Ray Leonard having difficulties 1496 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:34,370 getting to his feet. 1497 01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:35,663 But beating Ray Leonard, 1498 01:04:35,705 --> 01:04:37,665 the way Camacho beat him, was impressive. 1499 01:04:37,707 --> 01:04:40,168 -Camacho landing. Cortez should stop it now. 1500 01:04:40,209 --> 01:04:44,672 It's time. There it is. And it's all over. 1501 01:04:45,798 --> 01:04:47,526 There are those who are gonna say, 1502 01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:48,801 "Hey, he was out for six years, 1503 01:04:48,843 --> 01:04:50,345 you should have knocked him out." 1504 01:04:50,386 --> 01:04:52,013 What do you say about that? 1505 01:04:52,055 --> 01:04:53,056 There he is. 1506 01:04:53,097 --> 01:04:55,975 Great champion. Two real gentlemen. 1507 01:04:57,060 --> 01:04:59,395 I remember him coming over to me, 1508 01:04:59,437 --> 01:05:01,189 hugging me and it was almost like 1509 01:05:01,230 --> 01:05:03,983 he was saying, "I'm sorry." I think he did say I'm sorry. 1510 01:05:04,025 --> 01:05:05,652 I said, "Well, you didn't show it." 1511 01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:08,071 I cried like a baby that night. 1512 01:05:08,112 --> 01:05:13,159 I knew at that moment that it was over. 1513 01:05:14,202 --> 01:05:17,789 It was ironic that, that the bad boy... 1514 01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:20,500 beat the golden boy. 1515 01:05:20,708 --> 01:05:22,377 I think God's a boxing fan. 1516 01:05:22,669 --> 01:05:26,214 And I think God said, "I'm gonna give you this one. 1517 01:05:26,255 --> 01:05:30,009 "You earned the right to have this night 1518 01:05:30,051 --> 01:05:33,179 before you go off to wherever you're going off to." 1519 01:05:34,847 --> 01:05:36,641 The thing with fighters... 1520 01:05:37,141 --> 01:05:39,686 is that we reach the top 1521 01:05:39,727 --> 01:05:42,605 and then when our career comes to an end, 1522 01:05:42,897 --> 01:05:47,026 we search for that. "And the new cha..." 1523 01:05:47,402 --> 01:05:48,653 There's nothing greater... 1524 01:05:48,695 --> 01:05:50,863 There's no better words to hear. 1525 01:05:51,364 --> 01:05:54,450 I ca... I can't even emphasize enough 1526 01:05:54,492 --> 01:05:56,327 what it means to us. 1527 01:05:56,369 --> 01:05:58,204 You beat the odds. 1528 01:05:58,246 --> 01:06:00,039 And when we don't have that any longer, 1529 01:06:00,081 --> 01:06:02,542 we go for something else that's going to try 1530 01:06:02,583 --> 01:06:03,876 to duplicate it 1531 01:06:03,918 --> 01:06:07,338 with the alcohol or drugs, whatever the case may be. 1532 01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:11,009 I've been around Hector Camacho 1533 01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:12,677 when he was doing this, doing that, 1534 01:06:12,719 --> 01:06:14,071 because I was doing the same thing. 1535 01:06:14,095 --> 01:06:16,639 I mean, I was no different than he was, 1536 01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:21,019 but I was able to pull back and just stop. 1537 01:06:22,854 --> 01:06:24,731 Macho always believed that his career 1538 01:06:24,772 --> 01:06:25,982 was going to continue, 1539 01:06:26,024 --> 01:06:29,152 and he got caught in that tide and that rift. 1540 01:06:29,193 --> 01:06:33,281 So, his only companion at that time was cocaine. 1541 01:06:33,698 --> 01:06:35,408 Let me replace a fight with cocaine. 1542 01:06:35,450 --> 01:06:37,160 Let me hang out with cocaine. 1543 01:06:37,201 --> 01:06:38,202 Cocaine is there for me, 1544 01:06:38,244 --> 01:06:39,471 it's not going to disappoint me. 1545 01:06:39,495 --> 01:06:41,095 I don't have to call cocaine 20,000 times 1546 01:06:41,122 --> 01:06:43,541 and listen to a lie and the contract's on the way. 1547 01:06:43,583 --> 01:06:45,084 I've got a fight, I'm working on it. 1548 01:06:45,126 --> 01:06:47,545 And it was the only thing that was consistent. 1549 01:06:47,587 --> 01:06:49,297 It never let him down. 1550 01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:54,343 Macho lived in despair for many, many years, 1551 01:06:54,385 --> 01:06:57,138 uh, because of his addiction. 1552 01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:59,057 He says his wife showed up Friday, 1553 01:06:59,098 --> 01:07:01,934 and she began hitting on him and throwing cups. 1554 01:07:01,976 --> 01:07:04,937 He says he knew better than to fight back in any way. 1555 01:07:04,979 --> 01:07:06,481 So, I grabbed her, you know, 1556 01:07:06,522 --> 01:07:08,858 to try to calm her down a little. 1557 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,693 Somebody saw that, reported it. 1558 01:07:10,735 --> 01:07:12,254 When sheriff's deputies found out she was 1559 01:07:12,278 --> 01:07:14,697 two and a half months pregnant, they charged Camacho 1560 01:07:14,739 --> 01:07:17,492 with aggravated assault on a pregnant woman, a felony. 1561 01:07:17,533 --> 01:07:20,328 My wife, we love each other. We are happy with each other. 1562 01:07:20,369 --> 01:07:22,371 We happy. We love each other. 1563 01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:24,916 I didn't want to continue that lifestyle. 1564 01:07:24,957 --> 01:07:28,336 Like, always picking up the pieces, cleaning up, lying. 1565 01:07:28,377 --> 01:07:32,965 So, I filed for the divorce. He fought me to the very end. 1566 01:07:33,007 --> 01:07:36,552 He's like, "Don't do this. You don't have to divorce me. 1567 01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:38,721 "You know, like, I'll... I'll leave you alone 1568 01:07:38,763 --> 01:07:40,014 until you ready for me again." 1569 01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:41,974 And I said, "No, Macho, we have to get divorced 1570 01:07:42,016 --> 01:07:43,810 because you don't leave me alone." 1571 01:07:43,851 --> 01:07:46,104 In order to get him to calm down, I go, 1572 01:07:46,145 --> 01:07:49,232 "Listen, how's about when you're 50, 1573 01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:51,734 "we'll just... we'll meet up again, 1574 01:07:51,776 --> 01:07:53,402 "we'll talk and we see where we at. 1575 01:07:53,444 --> 01:07:54,838 Maybe then we could raise the grandkids." 1576 01:07:54,862 --> 01:07:56,622 I went like that to him. He goes, "All right. 1577 01:07:56,656 --> 01:07:58,241 I'll see you when you're 50, right?" 1578 01:07:58,282 --> 01:08:01,035 And I said, "Yes. See you when we 50." 1579 01:08:01,077 --> 01:08:03,579 Like, I could accept all his flaws and all his mistakes 1580 01:08:03,621 --> 01:08:05,665 and all that because I knew deep down inside 1581 01:08:05,706 --> 01:08:08,584 he was this great, awesome person. 1582 01:08:08,626 --> 01:08:11,045 He just had issues, you know. 1583 01:08:11,087 --> 01:08:13,005 He had, he had an illness. 1584 01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:17,468 2010, when I saw him, 1585 01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:20,596 he was really sad because there was no spark to him. 1586 01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:21,764 We hugged and we talked. 1587 01:08:21,806 --> 01:08:24,517 He had a chance to do Dancing with the Stars. 1588 01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,495 They had offered him to do Dancing with the Stars, 1589 01:08:26,519 --> 01:08:29,147 the Spanish version, Mira Quien Baila. 1590 01:08:29,188 --> 01:08:31,357 And I says, "Why don't you do that?" 1591 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:32,817 And he goes, 1592 01:08:32,859 --> 01:08:34,443 I said, "No. We're going to do this." 1593 01:08:34,485 --> 01:08:36,654 He was doing nothing but eating, 1594 01:08:36,696 --> 01:08:38,823 hanging out with the wrong people. 1595 01:08:38,865 --> 01:08:40,950 So, he was really, really fat. 1596 01:08:40,992 --> 01:08:45,329 He had a belly, like if he was gonna be having children. 1597 01:08:45,997 --> 01:08:48,749 From there on, we started again 1598 01:08:48,791 --> 01:08:51,669 trying to make him look good. 1599 01:08:57,008 --> 01:09:01,596 So, that started the spark again in him. 1600 01:09:03,389 --> 01:09:06,142 The ratings were up all the time. 1601 01:09:06,184 --> 01:09:07,977 Love is in the air. 1602 01:09:08,019 --> 01:09:09,520 Because the people love him. 1603 01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:13,941 Macho presenta los Macho News. 1604 01:09:13,983 --> 01:09:17,236 Me llama Macho for President. 1605 01:09:17,278 --> 01:09:20,031 And he was the first one to get eliminated 1606 01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,326 in the competition, but they had to bring him back... 1607 01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:37,089 At that time, I knew a promoter 1608 01:09:37,131 --> 01:09:38,466 who said he could put together 1609 01:09:38,507 --> 01:09:41,177 a Roy Jones Jr. fight for him and Roy. 1610 01:09:41,219 --> 01:09:42,887 They were both at the end of their career, 1611 01:09:42,929 --> 01:09:44,513 but Africa was willing to pay them 1612 01:09:44,555 --> 01:09:45,932 $7 million apiece 1613 01:09:45,973 --> 01:09:47,683 to go do this in Tanzania. 1614 01:09:47,725 --> 01:09:49,227 Come on, champ. 1615 01:09:52,813 --> 01:09:54,190 And we took him from, 1616 01:09:54,232 --> 01:09:57,693 I'm telling you, overweight, pot belly, 1617 01:09:57,735 --> 01:10:00,821 couldn't even walk up this flight of stairs, 1618 01:10:00,863 --> 01:10:03,157 and we started the next day with him. 1619 01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:05,076 We started this rebuilding. 1620 01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:09,455 And he felt that he could do this. 1621 01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:26,222 Midway into this, he comes in 1622 01:10:26,264 --> 01:10:27,616 and he goes, "I got to talk to you." 1623 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,517 And I go, "What's going on, champ?" 1624 01:10:29,558 --> 01:10:32,270 He goes, "I can't do this fight." 1625 01:10:32,311 --> 01:10:34,563 He goes, "I appreciate what you guys are doing, 1626 01:10:34,605 --> 01:10:36,524 "but I just want to get high. 1627 01:10:36,565 --> 01:10:38,484 I don't want to do this." 1628 01:10:39,193 --> 01:10:40,712 I said, "You know, you're the greatest champion 1629 01:10:40,736 --> 01:10:42,738 to ever step in the ring." He goes, "You know what? 1630 01:10:42,780 --> 01:10:46,659 I am a champion, but I'm a junkie first." 1631 01:10:48,077 --> 01:10:50,037 He was broken. 1632 01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:51,580 When I looked into his eyes, 1633 01:10:51,622 --> 01:10:54,500 I realized there was nothing left. 1634 01:10:55,042 --> 01:10:57,003 And he had nowhere to go. 1635 01:10:57,878 --> 01:11:03,217 And he made the awful decision to go back to Amy's. 1636 01:11:03,259 --> 01:11:07,430 He was on probation, living in Tampa, 1637 01:11:07,471 --> 01:11:09,265 and he kept calling me all day. 1638 01:11:09,307 --> 01:11:10,516 And something seemed strange. 1639 01:11:10,558 --> 01:11:11,892 And I could hear in his voice 1640 01:11:11,934 --> 01:11:14,478 he wasn't sober. 1641 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,981 I was at work. I called the house, 1642 01:11:17,023 --> 01:11:18,482 and the boys didn't answer 1643 01:11:18,524 --> 01:11:19,710 'cause I keep checking on them. 1644 01:11:19,734 --> 01:11:21,110 And so, I said, "Let me go home." 1645 01:11:21,152 --> 01:11:22,820 I drove home. I looked inside. 1646 01:11:22,862 --> 01:11:24,488 I'm like, "Oh my God." Just... 1647 01:11:24,530 --> 01:11:26,574 The office was turned upside down. 1648 01:11:26,615 --> 01:11:28,993 And I talked to, to the little one, Tyler, 1649 01:11:29,035 --> 01:11:30,536 and he's like, "Mom," 1650 01:11:30,578 --> 01:11:31,996 and he's telling me what happened. 1651 01:11:32,038 --> 01:11:33,581 He's like, "Dad came in, 1652 01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:36,167 "and he's mad, and he pushed me. 1653 01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:37,626 And when he pushed me..." 1654 01:11:37,668 --> 01:11:40,963 Like, I guess he grabbed him and pushed him, 1655 01:11:41,005 --> 01:11:42,548 but he hit the bed. 1656 01:11:42,590 --> 01:11:45,176 He didn't deliberately hurt him. 1657 01:11:45,593 --> 01:11:46,802 So, when the police came 1658 01:11:46,844 --> 01:11:48,655 because, you know, everybody called the police, 1659 01:11:48,679 --> 01:11:49,972 the neighbors called the police, 1660 01:11:50,014 --> 01:11:51,807 they asked if we wanted to press charges. 1661 01:11:51,849 --> 01:11:53,768 I said, "No, it's okay. Don't worry about it. 1662 01:11:53,809 --> 01:11:55,269 We'll be fine." 1663 01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:57,980 But the state picked up the case, 1664 01:11:58,022 --> 01:12:00,232 and they filed against him. 1665 01:12:01,025 --> 01:12:05,071 That really, like, really teared them up apart. 1666 01:12:05,821 --> 01:12:07,406 He cried and... 1667 01:12:08,115 --> 01:12:09,992 that was the first time, actually, 1668 01:12:10,034 --> 01:12:12,953 from a long time that we seen him break down like that, 1669 01:12:12,995 --> 01:12:14,455 you know. 1670 01:12:14,497 --> 01:12:15,581 He was hurting. 1671 01:12:15,623 --> 01:12:18,042 This was already his second, third felony. 1672 01:12:18,084 --> 01:12:20,795 He was looking at a lot of time in prison. 1673 01:12:21,837 --> 01:12:24,757 And that's how he found himself in Puerto Rico. 1674 01:12:24,799 --> 01:12:26,926 He was running from that. 1675 01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:31,764 Everything's an adventure in my life. 1676 01:12:31,806 --> 01:12:34,475 When I go to sleep, when I get up, 1677 01:12:34,517 --> 01:12:37,019 I live an adventurous life, you know. 1678 01:12:37,061 --> 01:12:41,273 There's no minute in my life that I'm not adventurous. 1679 01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:45,111 I'm not stopping and looking back. 1680 01:12:45,152 --> 01:12:48,739 It's just a great thrill, you know, to be living. 1681 01:12:48,781 --> 01:12:51,826 Back in Bayamon, Hector started hanging out 1682 01:12:51,867 --> 01:12:54,787 with a new girlfriend and new friends. 1683 01:12:54,829 --> 01:12:59,125 It was 2012, and he was now 50 years old. 1684 01:12:59,708 --> 01:13:01,502 So I went to Puerto Rico. 1685 01:13:01,544 --> 01:13:03,671 He got some friend. They was no good. 1686 01:13:03,712 --> 01:13:05,089 It was Pasteles, 1687 01:13:05,131 --> 01:13:08,134 that's the one who put my son like that. 1688 01:13:08,175 --> 01:13:10,469 Used to drive him a taxi. 1689 01:13:10,511 --> 01:13:12,888 Do things that he not supposed to do. 1690 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:15,224 We used to almost every night 1691 01:13:15,266 --> 01:13:18,018 jump in... in a taxi, go baile. 1692 01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:20,604 Pasteles is a taxi driver in Bayamon 1693 01:13:20,646 --> 01:13:24,024 who became friendly with Camacho over the years. 1694 01:13:36,620 --> 01:13:37,830 This is crazy. 1695 01:13:37,872 --> 01:13:39,874 People work for him, Macho. 1696 01:13:39,915 --> 01:13:41,542 I told him. 1697 01:13:41,584 --> 01:13:43,377 I'm telling my father, "Pops, 1698 01:13:43,419 --> 01:13:45,546 "things are bad out here. 1699 01:13:45,588 --> 01:13:46,922 "Things are bad. 1700 01:13:46,964 --> 01:13:48,942 "You know, our generation, they young kids in the street, 1701 01:13:48,966 --> 01:13:50,926 be careful out there." "I'm the Macho Man." 1702 01:13:51,135 --> 01:13:54,388 "I understand, but it's crazy and be careful." 1703 01:13:55,764 --> 01:13:56,974 Nothing to do. 1704 01:13:57,016 --> 01:14:00,519 Lonely. He's lonely. Just empty. 1705 01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:08,611 He said, "Mommy, I got a new girlfriend." 1706 01:14:08,652 --> 01:14:11,197 I said, "Yeah? Let me see who." 1707 01:14:11,906 --> 01:14:14,033 When I see her, mm-mm. 1708 01:14:14,366 --> 01:14:17,828 I know they told me how she was. 1709 01:14:19,163 --> 01:14:20,623 Macho was always one who would go 1710 01:14:20,664 --> 01:14:22,374 to a lot of strip clubs. 1711 01:14:22,416 --> 01:14:25,711 Cynthia was one of the girls that he had linked with. 1712 01:14:25,753 --> 01:14:27,546 She was part of that entourage 1713 01:14:27,588 --> 01:14:29,173 with the strippers and that. 1714 01:14:29,215 --> 01:14:31,717 That's where he probably even met Jamil. 1715 01:14:31,759 --> 01:14:33,594 He ran an escort service. 1716 01:14:33,636 --> 01:14:36,138 Cynthia was a part of the escort services. 1717 01:14:36,430 --> 01:14:39,391 Somehow, Camacho got connected with Cynthia 1718 01:14:39,433 --> 01:14:41,143 ergo connected with Jamil. 1719 01:14:41,185 --> 01:14:45,397 He had, he had a record, drugs and firearms. 1720 01:14:47,983 --> 01:14:49,193 Not really. 1721 01:14:49,235 --> 01:14:50,486 - No? - No. 1722 01:14:56,075 --> 01:14:58,285 The last two years alive, 1723 01:14:58,327 --> 01:14:59,537 almost every day me and him. 1724 01:14:59,578 --> 01:15:03,165 But when Jamil come around, everything changed. 1725 01:15:03,207 --> 01:15:05,584 He just started spiraling out of control. 1726 01:15:05,626 --> 01:15:06,835 There was no talking to him. 1727 01:15:06,877 --> 01:15:08,754 He looked different. He behaved different. 1728 01:15:08,796 --> 01:15:11,090 You know, we found out about this female, 1729 01:15:11,131 --> 01:15:13,634 um, who she was, what she represent. 1730 01:15:13,676 --> 01:15:19,223 The fast life, drugs, alcohol, sex, jail, 1731 01:15:19,265 --> 01:15:22,184 and nothing good comes from the fast life at all. 1732 01:15:22,226 --> 01:15:24,270 You go just as you come. 1733 01:15:24,311 --> 01:15:26,272 He was no longer... 1734 01:15:27,231 --> 01:15:28,649 the man that I knew. 1735 01:15:28,691 --> 01:15:31,485 And we were like, "Get out of Puerto Rico, Macho. 1736 01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:33,404 "Let's go hang out in the neighborhood. 1737 01:15:33,612 --> 01:15:34,989 "My mother's going to cook. 1738 01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:37,741 Come on, man, let's go back to what we had." 1739 01:15:37,783 --> 01:15:40,077 We had more when we had nothing. 1740 01:15:46,041 --> 01:15:47,668 My mother was telling him 1741 01:15:47,710 --> 01:15:49,295 to get out of Puerto Rico. 1742 01:15:49,962 --> 01:15:51,064 And he goes, "You know what? 1743 01:15:51,088 --> 01:15:52,506 "I want to get out of here, man. 1744 01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:53,966 I really do." 1745 01:15:54,008 --> 01:15:56,468 But you can't force someone to fight. 1746 01:15:56,510 --> 01:15:58,012 There was no stopping him. 1747 01:15:58,762 --> 01:15:59,972 Everybody told me, 1748 01:16:00,014 --> 01:16:02,182 you know you can leave Macho alone. 1749 01:16:04,184 --> 01:16:06,520 I should not go, leave Macho alone. 1750 01:16:06,562 --> 01:16:09,607 I never leave my son alone, look what happened. 1751 01:16:10,941 --> 01:16:13,277 We were always lucky. 1752 01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,654 We walked away from a lot of things. 1753 01:16:15,696 --> 01:16:18,490 We just kept playing Russian roulette 1754 01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:19,617 to the end, 1755 01:16:19,658 --> 01:16:21,744 but the problem is he kept adding 1756 01:16:21,785 --> 01:16:24,121 another bullet to the chamber. 1757 01:16:27,249 --> 01:16:30,711 The Tuesday before Thanksgiving, 2012, 1758 01:16:30,753 --> 01:16:34,089 Camacho was home with Cynthia, his new girlfriend, 1759 01:16:34,131 --> 01:16:37,384 when his friend Jamil came over for a visit. 1760 01:16:37,426 --> 01:16:40,512 He was chilling with the girl, looking at TV. 1761 01:16:40,554 --> 01:16:44,058 This guy came and told them all, come on, let's take a ride, 1762 01:16:44,099 --> 01:16:46,977 take a ride with me somewhere, take a ride with me somewhere. 1763 01:16:50,064 --> 01:16:52,858 It was dark. I want to say it was seven-ish. 1764 01:16:55,653 --> 01:16:58,030 The initial report was it was a car parked 1765 01:16:58,072 --> 01:17:01,158 at a strip mall in Bayamon. 1766 01:17:03,911 --> 01:17:07,206 He was in the car looking at his phone. 1767 01:17:10,334 --> 01:17:12,461 Shots are fired... 1768 01:17:12,503 --> 01:17:14,522 and then a guy is seen running, getting into a car, 1769 01:17:14,546 --> 01:17:18,092 and leaving in the direction towards Catano. 1770 01:17:18,926 --> 01:17:21,804 One guy is found dead behind the car, 1771 01:17:22,304 --> 01:17:25,724 and the other one is inside in the passenger seat wounded. 1772 01:17:25,766 --> 01:17:27,142 In that case, it was Camacho. 1773 01:17:35,734 --> 01:17:38,320 Hector called me and tell me, "Titi 1774 01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:41,448 you standing?" And I said, "What happened?" 1775 01:17:41,490 --> 01:17:44,451 "Titi, put the TV on." "Why?" 1776 01:17:44,493 --> 01:17:47,579 "Put the TV on, they just killed my father." 1777 01:17:48,247 --> 01:17:49,873 I dropped the phone... 1778 01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:52,501 and that's it. 1779 01:17:52,543 --> 01:17:54,378 The family of the boxing great 1780 01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:55,629 Hector "Macho" Camacho 1781 01:17:55,671 --> 01:17:57,589 is with him by his side tonight 1782 01:17:57,631 --> 01:17:59,383 in a Puerto Rico hospital 1783 01:17:59,425 --> 01:18:02,010 the day after doctors there declared him brain dead. 1784 01:18:02,052 --> 01:18:03,429 Hector "Macho" Camacho 1785 01:18:03,470 --> 01:18:06,724 passed away this morning at a hospital in Puerto Rico 1786 01:18:06,765 --> 01:18:08,350 after his family made the decision 1787 01:18:08,392 --> 01:18:10,561 to remove him from life support. 1788 01:18:10,602 --> 01:18:12,938 Camacho was 50 years old. 1789 01:18:13,272 --> 01:18:16,608 It's like they rip something off, like rip. 1790 01:18:22,114 --> 01:18:23,490 Yeah. 1791 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:39,298 We stayed three days in Puerto Rico. 1792 01:18:41,091 --> 01:18:42,718 It was line to line. 1793 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,471 You know, like, he was so loved. 1794 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,684 And we brought him over here in New York for his people. 1795 01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,979 We share him. 1796 01:18:55,230 --> 01:18:58,400 I got a call that, uh, Hector had died 1797 01:18:58,442 --> 01:19:01,945 and that his mom wanted me to do his funeral. 1798 01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:05,324 And it really was quite something. 1799 01:19:06,784 --> 01:19:08,827 Thousands of people filled the streets 1800 01:19:08,869 --> 01:19:11,455 of Spanish Harlem to mourn his death 1801 01:19:11,497 --> 01:19:13,207 and celebrate his life. 1802 01:19:13,248 --> 01:19:15,334 Macho! Macho! 1803 01:19:15,375 --> 01:19:17,795 You could see, like, the panorama 1804 01:19:17,836 --> 01:19:19,797 of his life out there. 1805 01:19:20,047 --> 01:19:22,508 What time is it? Macho time! 1806 01:19:22,549 --> 01:19:25,427 Macho! 1807 01:19:25,469 --> 01:19:29,264 He-he's part of us, you know, he's our pride. 1808 01:19:29,598 --> 01:19:31,391 When you mention Camacho, 1809 01:19:31,433 --> 01:19:34,228 you mention Spanish Harlem, el Barrio. 1810 01:19:34,269 --> 01:19:38,065 To us, he was the Muhammad Ali in Puerto Rico. 1811 01:19:38,106 --> 01:19:39,942 And even though their bodies 1812 01:19:39,983 --> 01:19:41,109 lie in the Earth, 1813 01:19:41,151 --> 01:19:44,780 they trust that they, like you, will rise again. 1814 01:19:44,822 --> 01:19:48,158 But when I gave my homily at the mass, 1815 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,285 I was criticized because they said 1816 01:19:50,327 --> 01:19:52,371 I never mentioned how he died. 1817 01:19:52,663 --> 01:19:55,874 And my response was, everyone knew how he died. 1818 01:19:55,916 --> 01:19:57,251 He was shot. 1819 01:19:57,292 --> 01:19:59,586 Why he was shot? I don't know. 1820 01:19:59,628 --> 01:20:01,880 What he was involved in? I don't know. 1821 01:20:01,922 --> 01:20:04,550 Some might make him a victim, 1822 01:20:04,591 --> 01:20:06,301 and some might make him a villain. 1823 01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:11,890 And I think that's what caused 1824 01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:14,685 a lot of the pain around his death. 1825 01:20:14,726 --> 01:20:18,313 Such a talented person coming out of East Harlem 1826 01:20:18,355 --> 01:20:20,065 dying the way he did. 1827 01:20:21,483 --> 01:20:22,484 What did happen? 1828 01:20:22,526 --> 01:20:23,902 And may he rest in peace. 1829 01:20:23,944 --> 01:20:27,698 Amen! 1830 01:20:37,291 --> 01:20:39,960 She haven't been the same since Macho died. 1831 01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:43,547 It's like, the pain is killing her. 1832 01:20:44,590 --> 01:20:46,133 That's all she talks about, 1833 01:20:46,174 --> 01:20:49,720 and to this day she talks about it. 1834 01:20:49,761 --> 01:20:51,597 She talks about her son. 1835 01:20:51,638 --> 01:20:53,557 She wants to know who killed her son, 1836 01:20:53,599 --> 01:20:56,518 and she don't want to do nothing until she finds out 1837 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:57,769 who killed her son. 1838 01:20:58,145 --> 01:21:01,273 You know. And that's the mission that she's going for. 1839 01:21:01,315 --> 01:21:02,649 And she's not going to stay still 1840 01:21:02,691 --> 01:21:05,569 until she finds out who killed her son. 1841 01:22:12,970 --> 01:22:15,847 I wanted to walk away from it, but coming back, 1842 01:22:16,348 --> 01:22:18,642 feeling, seeing the place 1843 01:22:18,684 --> 01:22:20,560 where, you know, he got shot at... 1844 01:22:21,186 --> 01:22:23,689 doesn't add up right, doesn't seem right. 1845 01:22:25,023 --> 01:22:26,733 Gives you more questions. 1846 01:22:27,901 --> 01:22:29,861 It's a busy neighborhood. It's busy 1847 01:22:29,903 --> 01:22:32,072 on the main streets in Bayamon. 1848 01:22:32,531 --> 01:22:33,865 And nobody know nothing. 1849 01:22:33,907 --> 01:22:36,243 Or nobody seen nothing. Unbelievable. 1850 01:22:41,832 --> 01:22:43,709 Think about seven years ago. 1851 01:22:45,210 --> 01:22:49,172 My family, my grandmother, we need closure. 1852 01:22:53,218 --> 01:22:55,387 In the days and weeks after the shooting, 1853 01:22:55,429 --> 01:22:59,016 a number of theories about what happened emerged. 1854 01:22:59,808 --> 01:23:03,437 One was simply that Camacho was in the wrong place 1855 01:23:03,478 --> 01:23:06,606 at the wrong time with the wrong friend. 1856 01:23:10,777 --> 01:23:13,113 I was called to cover the, the shooting. 1857 01:23:15,490 --> 01:23:18,243 I remember that the first versions 1858 01:23:18,285 --> 01:23:19,619 that I heard when I arrived. 1859 01:23:19,661 --> 01:23:22,831 That the people that shoot were looking for his friend. 1860 01:23:33,925 --> 01:23:35,469 They knew he had money, 1861 01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:38,597 but then Macho was in the car at the time. 1862 01:23:38,638 --> 01:23:41,475 So they went to shoot this guy and kill him, 1863 01:23:41,516 --> 01:23:43,703 but they didn't realize there was another person in the car. 1864 01:23:43,727 --> 01:23:47,647 And when they did, they shot him. Witness. 1865 01:23:47,898 --> 01:23:50,067 But the streets say something else. 1866 01:23:51,818 --> 01:23:55,322 Your father, you know, was... wasn't too liked 1867 01:23:55,363 --> 01:23:57,491 towards the end of his times. 1868 01:23:57,532 --> 01:23:58,950 So another possibility 1869 01:23:58,992 --> 01:24:01,828 was that Camacho himself was the target. 1870 01:24:15,675 --> 01:24:18,845 Catano is a town next to Bayamon, 1871 01:24:18,887 --> 01:24:20,472 well-known as a criminal hub 1872 01:24:20,514 --> 01:24:23,809 for the drug trade in Puerto Rico. 1873 01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:27,354 In Catano, there was a police interception 1874 01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:28,855 of a car, a traffic stop. 1875 01:24:28,897 --> 01:24:31,608 The car would resemble the vehicle 1876 01:24:31,650 --> 01:24:35,153 that was seen leaving the scene of the shooting. 1877 01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:37,114 But at that time, 1878 01:24:37,155 --> 01:24:39,407 the officer that stopped them were not aware. 1879 01:24:39,449 --> 01:24:41,409 The car stopped, the guy comes out, 1880 01:24:41,451 --> 01:24:42,661 they give the ID, 1881 01:24:42,702 --> 01:24:44,704 and the police officer's checking the car. 1882 01:24:44,746 --> 01:24:48,083 And then all of a sudden, the guy takes off in the car. 1883 01:24:48,125 --> 01:24:50,418 So they chase him... 1884 01:24:50,460 --> 01:24:53,130 and then the chase ended in public housing. 1885 01:24:53,171 --> 01:24:54,506 They, they lost him. 1886 01:25:17,112 --> 01:25:18,780 There were eye witnesses 1887 01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:23,410 that slowly, slowly started to come through. 1888 01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:27,247 But none of them could ID the person. 1889 01:25:30,458 --> 01:25:32,669 Do you think that they were the ones? 1890 01:25:32,961 --> 01:25:34,713 - I believe, yeah. - Yeah? 1891 01:25:34,754 --> 01:25:37,674 - I believe that was the one. - Yeah? 1892 01:25:37,716 --> 01:25:38,800 Hell yeah. 1893 01:25:48,018 --> 01:25:49,561 Another possible motive 1894 01:25:49,603 --> 01:25:51,855 revolved around an insurance policy 1895 01:25:51,897 --> 01:25:55,150 collected by Jamil's widow, Eida Santana. 1896 01:25:55,192 --> 01:25:57,819 Eida Santana put the hit 1897 01:25:57,861 --> 01:25:59,905 on him to collect the insurance. 1898 01:25:59,946 --> 01:26:02,115 Actually, at one point, I believe that she paid 1899 01:26:02,157 --> 01:26:05,368 the, the late payments on the insurance policy 1900 01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:08,205 because it was late and they were going to cancel. 1901 01:26:08,246 --> 01:26:09,789 Santana was interviewed. 1902 01:26:09,831 --> 01:26:13,919 She gave brief statements and upon advice from counsel, 1903 01:26:14,211 --> 01:26:15,837 it would not go further. 1904 01:26:33,980 --> 01:26:37,442 And there's been all kinds of retaliation 1905 01:26:37,484 --> 01:26:38,902 against people that go in. 1906 01:26:38,944 --> 01:26:40,528 People die because they all witness. 1907 01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:42,864 You may have the best subjects in the world, 1908 01:26:42,906 --> 01:26:44,091 but the evidence is not enough, 1909 01:26:44,115 --> 01:26:46,368 and the prosecutors will not go. 1910 01:26:46,409 --> 01:26:48,286 The police doesn't have the resources 1911 01:26:48,328 --> 01:26:49,412 to do investigations. 1912 01:26:49,454 --> 01:26:50,914 They don't have the intelligence, 1913 01:26:50,956 --> 01:26:54,042 and they don't do the investigations properly. 1914 01:26:54,084 --> 01:26:56,920 The truth is it's anything but uncommon 1915 01:26:56,962 --> 01:26:59,297 for a murder to remain unsolved 1916 01:26:59,339 --> 01:27:00,882 in Puerto Rico. 1917 01:27:00,924 --> 01:27:02,676 Even though as a territory, 1918 01:27:02,717 --> 01:27:04,594 it has the second largest police force 1919 01:27:04,636 --> 01:27:05,845 in the United States, 1920 01:27:05,887 --> 01:27:07,639 second only to New York City, 1921 01:27:07,681 --> 01:27:11,142 just 23 percent of crimes committed on the island 1922 01:27:11,184 --> 01:27:13,144 ever get solved. 1923 01:27:14,729 --> 01:27:17,274 I ended up going to the Bayamon police 1924 01:27:17,315 --> 01:27:18,400 half a dozen times 1925 01:27:18,441 --> 01:27:20,610 during my trips to Puerto Rico. 1926 01:27:20,652 --> 01:27:23,613 Then I figured I'd try something different. 1927 01:27:23,655 --> 01:27:25,448 I got a contact at the FBI 1928 01:27:25,490 --> 01:27:28,910 and went to the Bureau's local headquarters in San Juan. 1929 01:27:29,202 --> 01:27:32,539 I'm here to see Agent Leff, Doug Leff. 1930 01:27:33,123 --> 01:27:35,041 What are some of the obstacles 1931 01:27:35,083 --> 01:27:37,627 just generally in Puerto Rico 1932 01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:39,212 with solving homicides? 1933 01:27:39,254 --> 01:27:41,506 Well, the homicide rate itself 1934 01:27:41,548 --> 01:27:43,925 is at a level here that's comparable 1935 01:27:43,967 --> 01:27:45,802 with countries in South America. 1936 01:27:45,844 --> 01:27:47,429 It's, it's a very high rate. 1937 01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:50,473 One of the biggest issues is witnesses coming forward. 1938 01:27:50,515 --> 01:27:52,743 I mean, there's a lot of fear. It's a small jurisdiction. 1939 01:27:52,767 --> 01:27:55,228 So you can imagine that a lot of people are afraid. 1940 01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:57,689 So a lot of it is trying to get the public 1941 01:27:57,731 --> 01:28:00,442 to trust that they will be protected 1942 01:28:00,483 --> 01:28:03,194 and that they will be safe if they bring information forward. 1943 01:28:03,236 --> 01:28:05,739 What would it take for the FBI 1944 01:28:05,780 --> 01:28:07,866 to get involved in this case? 1945 01:28:08,116 --> 01:28:09,451 Only as with any other case, 1946 01:28:09,492 --> 01:28:12,245 just a request from our state and local partner, 1947 01:28:12,287 --> 01:28:14,581 and we'll come forward with every resource 1948 01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:15,915 at our disposal. 1949 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,736 After all the years of frustration, 1950 01:28:44,778 --> 01:28:46,905 in November of 2019, 1951 01:28:46,946 --> 01:28:51,117 Maria finally got a call to come down to Puerto Rico. 1952 01:28:52,410 --> 01:28:53,453 Let's go. 1953 01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:55,038 They call me, say, 1954 01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,582 "Maria, we'd like you to be here." 1955 01:28:57,624 --> 01:29:00,293 He got something over in Puerto Rico, 1956 01:29:00,585 --> 01:29:02,087 but they're not telling me. 1957 01:29:03,922 --> 01:29:06,091 He would like me to be over there 1958 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,302 so he can explain everything to me, 1959 01:29:09,344 --> 01:29:12,263 but on telephone, he want to explain nothing. 1960 01:29:13,348 --> 01:29:15,934 I said, don't worry. I'll be there. 1961 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,481 I'm going to the police now. 1962 01:29:32,367 --> 01:29:34,285 I got appointment with them. 1963 01:29:34,327 --> 01:29:36,079 The case Maria was finding out 1964 01:29:36,121 --> 01:29:39,416 had finally been transferred from the local Bayamon precinct 1965 01:29:39,457 --> 01:29:41,918 to police headquarters in San Juan, 1966 01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,922 where a new detective was now working with the FBI. 1967 01:30:01,396 --> 01:30:03,481 Uh-huh. 1968 01:30:11,865 --> 01:30:13,283 Si. 1969 01:30:22,083 --> 01:30:23,877 Mm-hmm. 1970 01:30:36,598 --> 01:30:38,475 Mm-hmm. 1971 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,355 Si, senor. 1972 01:30:46,691 --> 01:30:47,942 They told me they got him. 1973 01:31:00,580 --> 01:31:02,165 They got him. 1974 01:31:03,875 --> 01:31:06,336 Oh Lord, you're so good. 1975 01:31:06,377 --> 01:31:08,213 Thank you, dear Lord. 1976 01:31:09,130 --> 01:31:12,091 Woo! I'm so happy. 1977 01:31:12,133 --> 01:31:13,718 Now I can sleep. 1978 01:31:38,785 --> 01:31:41,496 Maria may finally have closure, 1979 01:31:41,538 --> 01:31:43,623 but I'm not sure that anyone will ever know 1980 01:31:43,665 --> 01:31:46,876 all the facts surrounding Macho's death. 1981 01:31:53,550 --> 01:31:58,012 But New Yorkers, boxing fans around the world, 1982 01:31:58,054 --> 01:32:01,558 and especially the people of Spanish Harlem 1983 01:32:01,599 --> 01:32:05,228 will never forget the hero of these streets, 1984 01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:07,647 Hector "Macho" Camacho. 1985 01:32:07,689 --> 01:32:09,566 The great American dream, you know, 1986 01:32:09,607 --> 01:32:11,859 to take a kid from Spanish Harlem 1987 01:32:11,901 --> 01:32:14,404 and get on top of the world. 1988 01:32:14,445 --> 01:32:15,947 He was the first window in my life 1989 01:32:15,989 --> 01:32:17,782 to know that any dream is possible, 1990 01:32:17,824 --> 01:32:19,576 as long as you go for it. 1991 01:32:19,617 --> 01:32:20,702 And he went for it. 1992 01:32:20,743 --> 01:32:23,121 He was representing Spanish Harlem, 1993 01:32:23,371 --> 01:32:24,330 where he's from. 1994 01:32:24,372 --> 01:32:26,124 He never forgot. 1995 01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:29,752 There'll never be another "Macho" Camacho. 1996 01:32:32,255 --> 01:32:34,465 I wish I could hear his voice one last time, man. 1997 01:32:34,507 --> 01:32:35,508 How I wish. 1998 01:32:35,550 --> 01:32:37,093 Macho, looking back at your career 1999 01:32:37,135 --> 01:32:39,512 and where you are right now, are you satisfied? 2000 01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:41,097 Yes, I'm satisfied, 2001 01:32:41,139 --> 01:32:42,515 because I am a boxer. 2002 01:32:42,557 --> 01:32:44,809 I was meant to be what I'm doing. 2003 01:32:45,435 --> 01:32:48,313 I lived that dream every day. 2004 01:32:48,813 --> 01:32:50,874 You think they'll ever do a movie about you? 2005 01:32:50,898 --> 01:32:52,483 They better! 2006 01:32:52,609 --> 01:32:54,611 - What time is it? - -Macho time! 2007 01:32:54,861 --> 01:32:57,363 What time is it? - -Macho time! 2008 01:33:20,011 --> 01:33:21,095 Excuse me. 2009 01:33:21,137 --> 01:33:23,890 Do you know a driver named Pasteles? 2010 01:33:28,394 --> 01:33:30,074 He doesn't want to be recorded. 2011 01:33:33,316 --> 01:33:36,069 - He say he died. - He said he died? 2012 01:33:37,654 --> 01:33:39,364 Oh my God! 2013 01:33:56,547 --> 01:33:57,965 That's it. 149233

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