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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,720 All I know is I was killed in the homicide and my DNA isn't the one where 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,720 I should be. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,980 There's many cases of a different type of stabbing. 4 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:16,200 Don't you think it's very personal to do the same thing in that world? 5 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,899 and welcome. 6 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:35,080 I'm Jesse L. Martin. 7 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,480 It was the night of the Grammy Awards in Los Angeles in 2001 when a beautiful 8 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,060 fashion student was murdered inside her Hollywood home. 9 00:00:43,740 --> 00:00:47,400 Ashley Ellerin was a vivacious and talented free spirit with a bright 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,580 future. At first, there were no suspects, but detectives worked 11 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:56,280 tirelessly to catch her killer, only to discover Ashley might not have been his 12 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,280 first murder. 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,740 This is how it really happened. 14 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:17,000 Ashley was 22 years old. 15 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:22,960 She was a student at the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising. 16 00:01:23,020 --> 00:01:27,820 She came to Los Angeles like many young people. You know, she was here to follow 17 00:01:27,820 --> 00:01:28,820 her dream. 18 00:01:29,180 --> 00:01:34,120 I met Ashley at a party in the hills and she and I just clicked automatically. 19 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,500 She was a fashion student too. 20 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,980 She and I became very good friends. 21 00:01:39,540 --> 00:01:46,150 She had a big social circle and was... having parties at her home, and meeting 22 00:01:46,150 --> 00:01:47,590 a lot of up-and-comers in Hollywood. 23 00:01:48,150 --> 00:01:52,050 She was just a person who a lot of people gravitated towards. 24 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:59,490 She was living only a few blocks away from the Hollywood Walk of Fame and was 25 00:01:59,490 --> 00:02:01,850 just really enjoying herself in Hollywood. 26 00:02:03,870 --> 00:02:07,790 It was around 9.15 a.m. on February 22nd. 27 00:02:09,130 --> 00:02:11,610 Ashley's roommate came home. 28 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,400 And she noticed that the lights were on. 29 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:21,140 And she was kind of surprised about that because Ashley usually slept late and 30 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:26,580 then just opened the door and saw Ashley dead on the landing. 31 00:02:27,220 --> 00:02:30,040 I mean, walking in on that, I can't imagine. 32 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,100 It's always going to haunt her, I think. 33 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:35,340 It's always going to haunt her. Poor girl. 34 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,880 The Los Angeles detective described the killer as this modern-day Jack the 35 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,100 Ripper. It was just a horrific scene. 36 00:02:44,980 --> 00:02:49,820 So when police arrived, Ashley was found right next to her bedroom and the 37 00:02:49,820 --> 00:02:50,820 bathroom. 38 00:02:51,140 --> 00:02:57,840 She had 47 stab wounds on her body and her neck and head and various 39 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,980 areas in her chest. 40 00:02:59,460 --> 00:03:01,980 She had been nearly decapitated. 41 00:03:05,550 --> 00:03:09,010 She was in a bathrobe and she was in her shorts and tank top. 42 00:03:09,590 --> 00:03:13,670 Ashley's body had been posed. She was not sexually assaulted. 43 00:03:14,170 --> 00:03:17,550 But there was kind of a sexual element to it. 44 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:20,790 There wasn't any signs of anything stolen. 45 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:27,990 There was $300 in cash they found in the bathroom. She still had jewelry on. 46 00:03:28,270 --> 00:03:31,150 So there wasn't just this robbery gone bad. 47 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:34,610 It didn't look like any of the doors had been broken into. 48 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,060 So they kind of wondered whether, you know, Ashley may have let in her 49 00:03:39,060 --> 00:03:40,060 intruder. 50 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Somehow this person got in without having to break in. 51 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:48,900 They also thought, too, because of the frenziness of the attack and the 52 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:52,380 violence of the attack, that it was actually somebody that she knew, and 53 00:03:52,380 --> 00:03:54,100 they pretty much thought of that instantly. 54 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:03,760 The last person to ever speak to Ashley Allerin was actually Ashton Kutcher. 55 00:04:04,510 --> 00:04:07,950 So Ashton Kutcher was a 23-year-old actor. 56 00:04:08,230 --> 00:04:11,470 He was an up-and-coming Hollywood star. 57 00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:13,290 He was on that 70s show. 58 00:04:14,430 --> 00:04:20,050 They met at this big party. It was right around New Year's. It just took complete 59 00:04:20,050 --> 00:04:21,130 attraction to Ashley. 60 00:04:21,450 --> 00:04:22,950 She was like a cute little magnet. 61 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:27,150 Pretty, sweet, heart, everything. 62 00:04:28,030 --> 00:04:29,510 What do you think about these, huh? 63 00:04:30,350 --> 00:04:33,730 February 21st was actually Grammy night in Hollywood. 64 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:38,980 So she spoke to Ashton Kutcher. They made plans to go out for dinner and 65 00:04:38,980 --> 00:04:44,300 drinks. It was supposed to be their first date. She was, oh my gosh, so 66 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:46,960 excited. I went over there three days before. 67 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,300 I brought her over some stuff from the showroom. 68 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,800 And she's like, what outfit do I wear? What do I wear? 69 00:04:54,700 --> 00:05:00,500 At one point, though, Ashton's plans changed, and he decided to go over to a 70 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:05,840 friend's house to watch the Grammys. And so he ended up speaking to Ashley around 71 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:07,960 8.24 p.m. that night. 72 00:05:08,380 --> 00:05:11,720 And Ashley had told him that she had just gotten out of the shower. 73 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,640 And he said, I'm going to be running a little bit late. I'm going to go to a 74 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,500 friend's house, but let's get drinks afterwards. 75 00:05:22,060 --> 00:05:23,740 Ashton Kutcher couldn't reach her. 76 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:27,990 He shows up at 10.45 p.m. Her car is there. 77 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:29,990 The lights are on. 78 00:05:30,590 --> 00:05:32,070 But she's not answering the door. 79 00:05:32,630 --> 00:05:36,150 And then he tried the door because he thought, well, maybe she just couldn't 80 00:05:36,150 --> 00:05:37,730 hear him. It was locked. 81 00:05:38,090 --> 00:05:40,450 And so then he went to a side window. 82 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:46,850 All he said he saw was it looked like red wine was spilled all over the floor. 83 00:05:48,370 --> 00:05:49,370 And it wasn't. 84 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:57,120 He didn't really think anything of it because Ashley had a party a few weeks 85 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,120 before and thought maybe it was just kind of remnants of the party. He pretty 86 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,800 much just deduced that Ashley was kind of tired of waiting for him and she 87 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,220 ended up just going out with friends. 88 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,040 The following day, Ashton finds out from mutual friends what happened to Ashley. 89 00:06:13,220 --> 00:06:18,160 And so he ends up calling the police to give them basically a timeline of when 90 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,040 he went over there. 91 00:06:22,030 --> 00:06:25,470 He was a little freaked out because he knew his fingerprints were going to be 92 00:06:25,470 --> 00:06:26,470 on the door handle. 93 00:06:26,610 --> 00:06:30,730 But there was another potential clue about what time this all happened. 94 00:06:31,410 --> 00:06:37,210 The police end up talking to a dog walker who was out the night of Ashley's 95 00:06:37,210 --> 00:06:42,070 murder. He was taking his dog to this dog park that was actually across the 96 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:44,210 street from Ashley's home. 97 00:06:44,490 --> 00:06:46,090 And he heard a scream. 98 00:06:46,810 --> 00:06:49,930 And he said that his dog immediately looked up. 99 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:55,270 towards Ashley's bungalow. He said this was around 8.30. 100 00:06:57,030 --> 00:07:03,490 So that is when police ended up kind of pinpointing that was when the murder 101 00:07:03,490 --> 00:07:06,590 happened. It was just after she got off the phone with Kutcher. 102 00:07:06,910 --> 00:07:11,130 Ashley Kutcher was with friends, watching the Grammys, until he went to 103 00:07:11,130 --> 00:07:12,130 her house. 104 00:07:12,250 --> 00:07:15,570 That was pretty easy to rule him out. 105 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:24,550 Authority still had another man who had seen Ashley that night. They had what he 106 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:26,910 considered a blossoming relationship. 107 00:07:27,950 --> 00:07:31,410 He was the last person that had seen Ashley alive. 108 00:07:36,730 --> 00:07:41,050 22-year-old Ashley Ellerin was supposed to go on a date with Hollywood A-lister 109 00:07:41,050 --> 00:07:42,110 Ashton Kutcher. 110 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:45,470 She'd been stabbed 47 times. 111 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:53,300 My husband said Ashley was murder, murder, murder. 112 00:07:54,700 --> 00:08:01,360 I felt my feet on the floor, and I started crawling around the bedroom on 113 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,960 my hands and knees like an animal. 114 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,840 I was like, I don't understand. 115 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,240 I don't understand. 116 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,980 Stop 47 times. 117 00:08:13,140 --> 00:08:14,540 I can't imagine. 118 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,740 And she was a fighter. 119 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:18,880 You didn't want to mess with Ashley. 120 00:08:20,060 --> 00:08:25,120 The police did not find much physical evidence at Ashley Ellerin's murder 121 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,120 scene. 122 00:08:27,900 --> 00:08:31,060 They found footprints, and then they also had fingerprints. 123 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,260 But unfortunately, nothing came back to, you know, any suspect. 124 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,179 She had a number of fatal wounds, one of which was a throat wound. 125 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,640 And it appeared that she was... 126 00:08:44,970 --> 00:08:50,610 Attacked from behind, and the wound went from right to left, which led 127 00:08:50,610 --> 00:08:54,610 investigators to believe that they were looking for a left-handed assailant. 128 00:08:56,990 --> 00:09:00,750 Police were focused on a timeline of events that happened that night. 129 00:09:02,370 --> 00:09:08,810 On the night of the attack, Ashley had contacted her landlord, Mark Durbin, and 130 00:09:08,810 --> 00:09:12,990 asked him if he would come over to help her install this track lighting. 131 00:09:14,060 --> 00:09:15,560 She was renovating her home. 132 00:09:15,940 --> 00:09:19,860 And so he went over to Ashley's bungalow around 7 p.m. 133 00:09:21,140 --> 00:09:24,700 So Mark Durbin had gone over to Ellerin's house to help her with some 134 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:29,220 repairs, and shortly afterwards, they had actually had sex. 135 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:37,980 He left around 8.15 because he had plans with his girlfriend, and he was 136 00:09:37,980 --> 00:09:39,720 supposed to meet her around 8.30. 137 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,820 Theories were floating around, for sure. 138 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:50,180 Maybe he was jealous. Maybe Mark Durbin was hoping to date Ashley, and maybe he 139 00:09:50,180 --> 00:09:52,780 found out that she was going on this date with Ashton Kutcher. 140 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,840 Police were looking at Mark Durbin because he was one of the last people to 141 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:05,460 see Ashley alive, and he also admitted that he had slept with her just 142 00:10:05,460 --> 00:10:08,560 minutes almost before she actually was murdered. 143 00:10:09,290 --> 00:10:13,630 So clearly they did a thorough investigation into Durbin. 144 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:21,070 He was very cooperative. He allowed police to search his car and his 145 00:10:21,070 --> 00:10:22,070 home. 146 00:10:22,670 --> 00:10:25,770 Eventually they realized that he was not the person that did this. 147 00:10:28,790 --> 00:10:32,470 The detectives cast a wide net. You know, they were trying to talk to 148 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:34,090 everybody that knew Ashley. 149 00:10:34,770 --> 00:10:36,930 She had a very wide circle of friends. 150 00:10:37,610 --> 00:10:41,670 So they spent many months, you know, trying to track down people. They spoke 151 00:10:41,670 --> 00:10:43,950 to, you know, her family, her friends. 152 00:10:44,970 --> 00:10:51,550 So Ashley's friends told police various stories about a guy named Mike that they 153 00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:55,870 knew to be a furnace air conditioner repairman. 154 00:10:58,150 --> 00:11:04,870 He was this air conditioning guy she met in the fall of 2000 outside her house. 155 00:11:05,310 --> 00:11:08,110 when her and a friend were fixing a tire. 156 00:11:08,610 --> 00:11:11,190 He lived in the neighborhood, young guy, good-looking guy. 157 00:11:11,630 --> 00:11:16,210 From that moment forward, he started inviting himself into her house at these 158 00:11:16,210 --> 00:11:18,270 big parties that she would have all the time. 159 00:11:19,130 --> 00:11:20,990 She threw me that big birthday party. 160 00:11:21,290 --> 00:11:25,710 There was like, I don't know, like 100 people there. He was like aloof. He was 161 00:11:25,710 --> 00:11:27,250 like in the back, dark corner. 162 00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:28,950 I didn't know who he was. 163 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,580 Mike was known by her friends to tell all these tall tales. 164 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,840 At one point he said that he was this Olympic boxer and he was going to go to 165 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,900 the Olympics, but he got electrocuted working on an air conditioning job. 166 00:11:45,820 --> 00:11:49,700 The friends only knew him as this guy Mike. They didn't have his last name. 167 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,680 A couple of weeks before Ashley's murder, she had a party and one of her 168 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:59,180 friends saw Mike sitting on the couch and so he started talking to him and he 169 00:11:59,180 --> 00:12:04,890 said that... Every time that Ashley walked into the room, Mike completely 170 00:12:04,890 --> 00:12:06,350 fixated on her. 171 00:12:06,910 --> 00:12:10,770 It freaked him out so bad that, you know, towards the end of the night, like 172 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:13,330 everybody was leaving, but Mike wasn't leaving. 173 00:12:13,610 --> 00:12:17,310 And so he said that he got so nervous about Ashley that he actually stayed 174 00:12:17,310 --> 00:12:21,230 over that night. He got such bad vibes from this guy, Mike. 175 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:27,290 Ashley's former roommate, Justin Peterson, told police that he was coming 176 00:12:27,290 --> 00:12:28,750 home from a party one night. 177 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:33,080 It was around like 2 o'clock in the evening, and he sees Mike sitting 178 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:38,660 outside in this green pickup truck staring at the bungalow. 179 00:12:39,340 --> 00:12:42,520 And he said he called Ashley to let her know. 180 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,740 And he said the following day, he actually confronted him. And Mike gave 181 00:12:47,740 --> 00:12:53,960 him this bizarre tale about how the FBI was looking for him. 182 00:12:57,050 --> 00:13:02,210 were a little more concerned about this Mike guy than Ashley was. She was just a 183 00:13:02,210 --> 00:13:09,190 very open person, and she wasn't very judgy. She had a lot of guys that liked 184 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:11,850 her. She just had so much going on all the time. 185 00:13:13,150 --> 00:13:18,130 The fact that none of her friends actually knew Mike's last name posed a 186 00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:24,410 huge problem for detectives. It took, like, a year to identify who that Mike 187 00:13:24,410 --> 00:13:25,410 was. 188 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,380 Chris Picaccio was an 18-year-old graduate of Glenview High School. 189 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:43,380 A very bright, talented young woman with a great future. She came from a great 190 00:13:43,380 --> 00:13:44,380 family. 191 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:49,160 She was set to take an engineering scholarship from Purdue University. 192 00:13:49,780 --> 00:13:53,260 It was her last summer to hang out with all her friends. You know, all her 193 00:13:53,260 --> 00:13:57,240 friends were going off to college, and so this was her summer of fun. 194 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,440 That night, she went out with friends. 195 00:14:03,020 --> 00:14:06,760 And they went on the scavenger hunt, and then they all ended up meeting up at 196 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,840 around 11.30 at TGI Fridays. 197 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:18,700 She dropped off her last friend around 1 a.m. and was walking into her home with 198 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:20,860 her key in her hand, and she never made it inside. 199 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:28,060 Next morning, Trish was found tragically by her father on the back porch of the 200 00:14:28,060 --> 00:14:30,980 home. The summer of 1993. 201 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:39,380 The killer had snapped her arm and then stabbed her 12 times in the 202 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:42,920 arm, chest, and breast area. 203 00:14:43,540 --> 00:14:47,500 The attacker must have been lying in wait. This is somebody who knew she was 204 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:52,980 out, who knew her routine, and knew exactly where to hide in this area. 205 00:14:54,140 --> 00:14:58,930 Her death devastated the town. Not only did it... affect her family and friends. 206 00:14:59,030 --> 00:15:01,670 The whole community rallied around the family. 207 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:08,410 In 1993, the Cook County, Illinois Sheriff's homicide detectives had 208 00:15:08,410 --> 00:15:10,570 gathered all the evidence they could. 209 00:15:10,950 --> 00:15:15,150 In 1993, DNA technology just wasn't really there. 210 00:15:15,810 --> 00:15:21,390 So they sadly didn't have that to go on, and the case ultimately kind of went 211 00:15:21,390 --> 00:15:23,870 into the cold case file for many years. 212 00:15:26,220 --> 00:15:30,920 In 2000, a new set of detectives took over Tricia Picaccio's case, and they 213 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,900 actually looked and analyzed the fingernail clippings. 214 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,720 By then, DNA had been an accepted investigative tool, and a cold case 215 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:46,760 homicide detective named Lou Sala realized that he had offender DNA on the 216 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,660 fingernails of Tricia Picaccio and started going out and collecting DNA 217 00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:53,820 from potential suspects. 218 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,240 So they started in Chicago trying to rule people out. 219 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,240 Back in Hollywood, Ashley Ellerin's friends had quite a lot to say about 220 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:14,200 this guy, Mike the Repairman, this kind of strange man who would show up at her 221 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,200 house unexpectedly. 222 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,240 Investigator Tom Small knew Mike, the furnace guy, the HVAC guy, lived in the 223 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,600 area. But they didn't have a last name. 224 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:30,920 One of Ashley's friends told Detective Small that Mike had said to him that 225 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:36,340 he had been in an accident and he was going to sue the builders of Hollywood 226 00:16:36,340 --> 00:16:37,640 and Highland in Hollywood. 227 00:16:38,020 --> 00:16:39,740 And it was going to make him rich. 228 00:16:40,380 --> 00:16:45,040 Small contacted the corporation to see if there was any lawsuit. 229 00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:50,180 And the counsel said no. So a very enterprising Tom Small. 230 00:16:50,890 --> 00:16:54,730 He said, well, you know what, let me pull all the accident reports anyway in 231 00:16:54,730 --> 00:16:55,709 this area. 232 00:16:55,710 --> 00:17:02,450 And he found a report in 1999 where a guy named Michael Gargiulo had an 233 00:17:02,450 --> 00:17:07,490 incident with a motorist, and Michael Gargiulo filed a police report. 234 00:17:09,810 --> 00:17:15,150 So once they were able to find this license of this guy, Michael Gargiulo, 235 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,819 They then showed that to Ellerin's friends, and they confirmed that, oh, 236 00:17:19,819 --> 00:17:21,280 yeah, that's Mike the repair guy. 237 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:27,079 Gargiulo was living just a few blocks south of Ashley Ellerin at the time of 238 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:27,699 the killing. 239 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:33,600 Actually, if you go up on his roof, he had this perfect view of her window, so 240 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,040 he could actually see her comings and goings. 241 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,740 But by the time they had his address, he no longer lived there. 242 00:17:40,940 --> 00:17:43,620 He had gotten evicted, like, months before. 243 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,220 and so had already fled the area. 244 00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:48,980 It was fall of 2002. 245 00:17:50,580 --> 00:17:56,340 The LAPD gets a call from Chicago detectives. They've come out to Los 246 00:17:56,340 --> 00:18:00,600 Angeles because they want to talk to Michael Gargiulo because he was one of 247 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,420 the original people detectives spoke to back when Tricia Pocaccia was murdered 248 00:18:05,420 --> 00:18:09,980 back in 1993, and they wanted to rule him out through DNA. 249 00:18:10,750 --> 00:18:13,930 Michael Gargiulo was a close friend of her brother, Douglas. 250 00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:18,990 At the time of the murder, Michael would have been 17 and Tricia was 18. 251 00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:23,590 So not only was he really good friends with Doug Picaccio, but he lived just 252 00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:24,590 around the corner. 253 00:18:25,050 --> 00:18:29,230 Detective Sala had determined that Gargiulo had moved out to Southern 254 00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:33,450 California relatively quickly after the 1993 murder of Tricia Picaccio. 255 00:18:34,210 --> 00:18:37,190 But they couldn't track him down, so they ended up... 256 00:18:37,610 --> 00:18:42,870 contacting the LAPD, and so they ended up speaking to Detective Tom Small and 257 00:18:42,870 --> 00:18:47,410 his partner, and Tom Small actually showed them the driver's license photo 258 00:18:47,410 --> 00:18:49,330 and said, hey, is this the guy you're looking for? 259 00:18:49,790 --> 00:18:53,370 And they were like, yeah, how do you know this guy? And then Tom Small was 260 00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:58,270 like, well, we're actually looking at him for a murder in Hollywood. 261 00:18:58,610 --> 00:19:01,170 It was like that moment of, oh, my God. 262 00:19:04,140 --> 00:19:08,200 The two of them compared notes, and it was very eerily similar cases. Both 263 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,380 young women, both of them stabbed multiple times. 264 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:17,540 Both of them knew Michael Gargiulo. Both of them lived close to Michael Gargiulo. 265 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Mike Gargiulo was hard to find because he didn't rent places in his own name. 266 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:29,700 He didn't have utilities in his own name. He was always with a woman, and 267 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:31,060 the places were always their names. 268 00:19:31,690 --> 00:19:36,390 So the detectives actually found an address for Michael Gargiulo. Four 269 00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:40,010 detectives went over there, and then he tried to actually run right through 270 00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:43,130 them. It took four of them to actually pin him down. 271 00:19:43,390 --> 00:19:48,830 And they ended up taking him to a nearby hospital where they actually swabbed him 272 00:19:48,830 --> 00:19:49,830 for his DNA. 273 00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:55,690 In 2003, the Illinois authorities confirmed that the DNA found on Trish 274 00:19:55,690 --> 00:19:59,850 Picassio's fingernails was in fact DNA that came from Michael Gargiulo. 275 00:20:01,290 --> 00:20:05,650 When they get the DNA results back, the Cook County State's Attorney's Office 276 00:20:05,650 --> 00:20:11,530 decides that there's not enough evidence to arrest Michael Gargiulo. 277 00:20:11,770 --> 00:20:17,070 They said that basically he had been in the Picaccio's house before, and also 278 00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:22,990 the day before Trisha Picaccio was murdered, Trisha Picaccio was in Michael 279 00:20:22,990 --> 00:20:24,030 Gargiulo's van. 280 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:28,290 He gave her a ride to her friend's house. So the prosecutors are basically 281 00:20:28,290 --> 00:20:33,190 saying... that could have been how his DNA got on her fingernails. 282 00:20:33,790 --> 00:20:37,630 Trisha had gone out with, you know, 40-plus friends that evening, and the 283 00:20:37,630 --> 00:20:43,830 only DNA that was on her was Michael Gargiulo's. And so the detectives were 284 00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:44,830 very upset. 285 00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:47,830 That left him essentially a free man. 286 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,420 The admin chart with the murderer of Trish Picaccio or the murderer of Ashley 287 00:20:52,420 --> 00:20:57,420 Ellerin. That decision not to go after Gargiulo as soon as they matched the DNA 288 00:20:57,420 --> 00:20:59,740 basically had fatal consequences. 289 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,200 Investigators from Los Angeles and Cook County, Illinois, believe that the same 290 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,780 man murdered Ashley Ellerin and Trisha Picaccio. His name was Michael Gargiulo. 291 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,780 DNA found on the fingernails of Trisha Picaccio matched Gargiulo's, but the 292 00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:21,360 Cook County State's Attorney's Office decided that evidence alone wasn't 293 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:22,400 enough to prosecute him. 294 00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:24,700 Michael Gargiulo is a free man. 295 00:21:32,340 --> 00:21:37,920 Maria Bruno was a early 30-ish Hispanic woman who had got married young, had 296 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,500 four children with Irving Bruno. 297 00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:44,580 And after about 10 years, the merit started to somewhat dissolve. 298 00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:51,940 Maria Bruno had recently split from her husband and had moved to this gated 299 00:21:51,940 --> 00:21:52,980 apartment complex. 300 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:58,260 She was trying to start a new life. She chose that apartment complex because it 301 00:21:58,260 --> 00:21:59,260 was safe. 302 00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:07,640 The night of November 30th, Maria Bruno went out with her estranged husband. 303 00:22:08,540 --> 00:22:13,180 They'd gone out to dinner, and they were drinking at a karaoke bar. 304 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,020 They were there pretty late. They closed the restaurant around 1 o'clock in the 305 00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:20,380 morning. Maria had been drinking a little bit too much to drive, so her 306 00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:23,200 husband drove her to her apartment. 307 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,120 They hung out for a little bit longer together, and they actually ended up 308 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:27,979 having sex. 309 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:32,520 And then around 2.45 a.m. was when Irving left the apartment. 310 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:38,940 And the plan was that he would come back early the next morning and drive her to 311 00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:40,460 where they left her car. 312 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,020 He said he came back around 7.40 a.m. He said he knocked on her door and there 313 00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:51,440 was no answer. He, you know, knocked on it a few times. And then he said he 314 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:56,700 turned around to leave when he actually saw her kitchen window screen on the 315 00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:57,700 ground. 316 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,920 So he actually climbed through the window and that's when he finds... 317 00:23:02,330 --> 00:23:06,530 His estranged wife, Maria Bruno, butchered in the other room. 318 00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:13,510 I was 319 00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:21,210 the 320 00:23:21,210 --> 00:23:24,830 first person from the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department to arrive on scene. 321 00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:30,110 Maria had over a dozen stab wounds all over her abdomen, her chest. 322 00:23:30,620 --> 00:23:31,800 and her throat. 323 00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:34,380 She had been sexually mutilated. 324 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,220 It appeared as if her body had been somewhat posed. 325 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:41,520 This is very personal. This is rage. 326 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,660 This is an absolutely horrendous crime scene. 327 00:23:47,380 --> 00:23:52,420 There was a blue cotton booty, like a shoe covering, that was found just 328 00:23:52,420 --> 00:23:53,760 outside of Maria's front door. 329 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Not unlike a medical booty or what a repair person would wear on their feet 330 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,420 coming into your home. 331 00:24:00,660 --> 00:24:05,040 There was a small drop of blood on the interior portion of that blue booty. 332 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:09,760 It was Maria Bruno's blood. Could it be that her assailant wore that booty? 333 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,560 Hearing Bruno was the one that was the last to see her alive and the first one 334 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,980 to discover her deceased, he was definitely somebody that, you know, we 335 00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:21,680 wanted to query thoroughly. 336 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,100 They found Maria's blood actually in Irving Bruno's car. 337 00:24:29,620 --> 00:24:32,760 We questioned him that morning at length. 338 00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:36,760 They had had a domestic violence incident between them previously. 339 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,240 At one point in time, they'd both been drinking. They got involved in a pretty 340 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,220 heated argument, and Mr. Bruno admitted that he had actually struck Maria. 341 00:24:45,420 --> 00:24:49,200 He felt terrible about it. Law enforcement was never called. She never 342 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,680 really shared that with anybody. 343 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:54,330 and really it was an anomaly in the marriage. 344 00:24:55,150 --> 00:24:58,870 We were able to explain her blood to this car relatively easily. 345 00:24:59,070 --> 00:25:03,170 That night, while she was in the restroom, she had pinched her hand in 346 00:25:03,170 --> 00:25:04,490 the door and had cut it. 347 00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:09,590 The timeline there was pretty easy to put together regarding his activities, 348 00:25:09,870 --> 00:25:12,870 and he was very cooperative and very helpful with us. 349 00:25:13,490 --> 00:25:18,890 So he was excluded as being a suspect relatively quickly. 350 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,580 The coroner gave an expert opinion that the knife wound injuries were to the 351 00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:30,680 right side of Maria's body, and that's indicative of a left-handed attacker. 352 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:37,400 There was no foreign DNA collected from the crime scene. There were no 353 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:43,720 fingerprints, no hair or fibers or other forensic material. 354 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,980 We thought perhaps the offender was somebody who was familiar with their 355 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:51,260 surroundings. The crime itself was high risk. 356 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,320 There were about 80 units in that one building, and then there were two 357 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,340 buildings attached to it that each contained 80 units. 358 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:01,960 So you're talking about hundreds of people coming and going at all hours. 359 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,240 It kind of struck me right away. It's not their first rodeo. 360 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,400 After we were able to essentially eliminate the estranged husband, we went 361 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,400 back to doing what cops have been doing for about 200 years, knocking on doors. 362 00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:23,910 looking for eyewitnesses, and one of the witnesses was an older gentleman that 363 00:26:23,910 --> 00:26:28,930 lived directly across the courtyard from Maria, and he had witnessed some 364 00:26:28,930 --> 00:26:31,150 activity a couple of days prior to the murder. 365 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:35,110 Maria was walking down towards her apartment. She was carrying groceries, 366 00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:40,270 and the neighbor saw this man following Maria, and then Maria getting into the 367 00:26:40,270 --> 00:26:43,490 house, and then the man actually stepping in, and then... 368 00:26:43,710 --> 00:26:47,210 going back like this, like Maria, like shutting the door on him and his hands 369 00:26:47,210 --> 00:26:50,310 like in the air, like, okay, you know, type thing and backing off. 370 00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:56,330 And he had seen that man in the apartment building before on a number of 371 00:26:56,330 --> 00:27:00,670 occasions, just standing by the laundry room, kind of looking overall at the 372 00:27:00,670 --> 00:27:06,530 courtyard. That witness described a man that was white, but perhaps of Italian 373 00:27:06,530 --> 00:27:10,230 descent. And he was able to describe his height and his weight and his hairstyle. 374 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,160 Marie's case went cold and it remained cold for pretty much three years until 375 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,180 2008. We got a call from the Santa Monica California Police Department. 376 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,100 At that point, we'd start putting together some of the pieces to this 377 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,040 puzzle. We realized that we had a serial killer. 378 00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:37,380 He was a husband and a father. 379 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,120 What no one knew for many years, however... 380 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,040 was that Michael Gargiulo was leading a double life. 381 00:27:50,780 --> 00:27:55,560 Michelle Murphy was a 26-year-old young lady living with a roommate in the 382 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,040 central district of Santa Monica. Middle class, neighborhood, college students, 383 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:01,260 aspiring actors and actresses. 384 00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:08,540 The area itself is fairly safe. Younger professionals, not a high crime area 385 00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:09,540 at all. 386 00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:12,450 I would call it a typical or unremarkable evening. 387 00:28:12,690 --> 00:28:17,730 Michelle worked out in the early evening hours, did some laundry, watched a 388 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:20,810 movie. She ended up going to bed around 10.45. 389 00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:26,510 She had her second floor balcony window open, you know, because it was a warm 390 00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:27,510 night. 391 00:28:27,670 --> 00:28:33,470 I believe it was about 11.30 when she was awakened to this unknown person on 392 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:35,530 her bed, straddling her, stabbing her. 393 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:39,210 It went from zero to 20 instantly. 394 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,360 He began stabbing her. Nothing said, no reason, just began to stab her. Michelle 395 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,200 had no idea what was going on. 396 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,520 At one point during the struggle, she actually grabbed the knife to stop him 397 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,660 with, like, two of her hands. Like, she put her hands around the knife. 398 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,620 The odds were definitely against her. She's tiny. She was able to get her feet 399 00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:01,900 underneath him and kick him off. 400 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,220 And in the course of their struggle, he cuts himself on his right wrist. 401 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,680 and starts bleeding pretty badly. 402 00:29:13,060 --> 00:29:15,600 He says, I'm sorry, and runs out of her apartment. 403 00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:17,260 Michelle, what happened? 404 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,760 Where is that person now? 405 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,840 How long ago? 406 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:34,480 I was approximately two blocks away when the radio call came 407 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,420 out, standing outside her living room window. 408 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,700 I saw a large amount of blood that was smeared all over the window. 409 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:48,740 I also saw that the screen leading into the apartment had been cut. I could see 410 00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:51,540 blood drops leading down the staircase. 411 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:59,140 We ended up making our way up to the front door, and I escorted her from her 412 00:29:59,140 --> 00:30:01,040 apartment. She was in shock. 413 00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:05,540 She was badly cut, bleeding profusely. 414 00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:09,940 She was able to provide a very basic description to the first responding 415 00:30:09,940 --> 00:30:14,360 officer. She estimated about 5'11 and muscular built. 416 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,580 She really didn't get a good look because it was dark in her room. 417 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:25,420 Within weeks of the attack on Michelle Murphy, the droplets of blood were 418 00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:27,320 identified as belonging to Mike Gargiulo. 419 00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:29,720 His DNA was already in the system. 420 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,700 So at the point Mr. Gargiulo was identified by his DNA, we understood 421 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:40,980 that he was a person of interest in a homicide from the Chicago area from many 422 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:41,859 years prior. 423 00:30:41,860 --> 00:30:46,200 Once I got more of the details, I realized we were dealing with a monster 424 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,180 and that it was very important for us to ensure that we got this individual off 425 00:30:50,180 --> 00:30:51,139 the street. 426 00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:56,620 We realized that Mr. Gargiulo lived a stone's throw away from Michelle Murphy, 427 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920 and you could look from his window. 428 00:30:59,450 --> 00:31:00,890 into Michelle Murphy's apartment. 429 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:06,230 So Michael Gargiulo was arrested for the attempted murder of Michelle Murphy. 430 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:15,030 Several years after Maria's murder, in May of 2008, we got a call from the 431 00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:18,450 detectives that were handling the attack on Michelle Murphy, and the very 432 00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:23,150 perceptive detectives in Santa Monica remembered the Maria Bruno murder. So 433 00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:26,630 when they were doing a background investigation of Mr. Gargiulo... 434 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,460 They saw that he lived at one time in El Monte. And sure enough, he lived in the 435 00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:35,600 same exact apartment building where Maria Bruno had been murdered. He lived 436 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,700 across the courtyard and one level up from Maria's apartment. 437 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,360 He had like this incredibly perfect view of her home. 438 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,020 I knew right away he was unequivocally, absolutely the strongest suspect in this 439 00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:50,020 case. 440 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,780 Once the connections were made, The investigators from multiple 441 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:59,160 jurisdictions all started meeting to compare notes because it was at that 442 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,540 point we realized that we had a serial killer. 443 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,600 Once we'd identified Michael Gargiulo, we went back and wound up searching the 444 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,660 apartment that he lived in when Maria Bruno was killed. 445 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,800 Three or four tenants had occupied that same apartment since his departure, and 446 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,020 when we looked at the apartment, it was actually empty. And my partner at the 447 00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:26,480 time, Sergeant Joe Purcell, had the brilliant idea that we should go up and 448 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,480 look in the attic. 449 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,440 Sure enough, in the attic was a white plastic shopping bag, and in that bag 450 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,280 was a Father's Day card written to Mr. Gargiulo from his then-girlfriend. 451 00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:44,270 And a blue cotton booty that was the same make and model manufacturer that 452 00:32:44,270 --> 00:32:47,950 the blue cotton booty we had recovered two years earlier at the murder scene. 453 00:32:48,290 --> 00:32:52,910 It was a great piece of forensic evidence to tie Gargiulo to the crime. 454 00:32:53,230 --> 00:33:00,130 Years later, they end up finding his DNA or DNA of a male relative on 455 00:33:00,130 --> 00:33:03,350 the elastic of that booty that had Maria Bruno's blood on it. 456 00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:08,070 Several months after the Santa Monica Police Department had arrested and 457 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:12,330 charged Mr. Gargiulo with attempted murder on Michelle Murphy, we had 458 00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:15,670 presented enough evidence to additionally charge Mr. Gargiulo with 459 00:33:15,670 --> 00:33:20,810 the murder of Maria Bruno, and the Los Angeles Police Department was able to 460 00:33:20,810 --> 00:33:24,770 charge another count of murder for the murder of Ashley Ellerin. 461 00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:28,350 Some of Ashley's friends are going through pictures, and there in the 462 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:30,030 background is Mike Gargiulo. 463 00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:35,020 I mean, I was taking a picture. Ashley was leaning back on everybody. 464 00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:38,760 You can see him lurking around in the background. 465 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,360 So after Gargiulo starts making headlines, a show actually comes out 466 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,720 about him, an episode of 48 Hours. 467 00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:49,520 I tried to revive her. 468 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:56,460 That is the worst feeling in your life, when you can't do nothing for somebody 469 00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:57,460 you love. 470 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,100 Two men actually end up being the show. 471 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,140 And these two men had worked with Gargiulo at the Rainbow Bar and Grill as 472 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:12,760 bouncers when Gargiulo started kind of bragging about killing somebody back in 473 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,760 Chicago. 474 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,560 And that's when they know that they have a pretty important piece of information. 475 00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:24,400 And so with that, they ended up speaking to the state attorney's office. And so 476 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,400 in 2011... 477 00:34:26,350 --> 00:34:29,449 Michael Gargiulo was charged with the murder of Trisha Pachaccio. 478 00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:35,730 When you put all of these cases together, you're like, wait a second, 479 00:34:35,790 --> 00:34:39,909 this is the guy who docked these women. He lived near them. 480 00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:44,030 He waited for an opportune time to pounce. 481 00:34:45,070 --> 00:34:49,690 Michael Gargiulo, for almost 15 years, was watching. 482 00:34:50,969 --> 00:34:52,550 Always watching. 483 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,860 The details of this case are horrifying. 484 00:35:00,340 --> 00:35:04,880 Michael Gargiulo accused of brutally murdering three young, beautiful women. 485 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,220 The media dubbed him the Hollywood Ripper. However, his crimes are beyond 486 00:35:10,220 --> 00:35:13,580 Hollywood. It took about 11 years for the case to go to trial. 487 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:17,800 Mike Gargiulo kept firing lawyers and representing himself. 488 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,860 It was pretty obvious that he was using that to manipulate the system as best he 489 00:35:24,860 --> 00:35:26,160 could, which he was able to do. 490 00:35:30,220 --> 00:35:37,080 The methodical and systematic slaughter of women by Michael Gargiulo, 491 00:35:37,220 --> 00:35:38,560 the boy next door killer. 492 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,280 That's what this case is about. 493 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,620 Mr. Gargiulo was charged in California for the California crimes. 494 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,180 He was not charged with any of the offenses that he committed in the state 495 00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:52,180 of Illinois. 496 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:58,140 Trish Picaccia's murder was allowed in to show this pattern of Mike Gargiulo's. 497 00:36:00,910 --> 00:36:06,350 The people of the state of California were seeking death against Mr. Garger, 498 00:36:06,350 --> 00:36:10,730 though. They called him a serial psychosexual thrill killer. 499 00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:15,650 He didn't sexual assault any of them. They believe that he got his sexual 500 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:18,270 thrill out of the actual act of killing. 501 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:24,350 Ashton Kutcher in the spotlight today, not as an actor, but as a witness in 502 00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:27,840 court. Sounds like he has a pretty important role here. Yes, he's a 503 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,839 timeline witness. 504 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,480 He will narrow down that period during which she was killed. He was planning to 505 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,200 see Ashley Ellerin the night she was murdered. 506 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,620 Kutcher, you know, just his name really brought a ton of publicity to the case. 507 00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,720 Ashton Kutcher was why it kind of got so much coverage. 508 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200 He saw something that looked like evidence of a crime. 509 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:52,920 Gargiulo timed these attacks. 510 00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:00,460 very perfectly because in two of the cases, he came in right as another man 511 00:37:00,460 --> 00:37:05,000 was leaving. So he must have known that the focus would be on those people as 512 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,300 the last people to have seen her alive and not him. 513 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:14,840 A 26-year-old woman had the strength and courage to fight off a killer 514 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:21,720 that took investigators to answers that they had been seeking for 15 years. 515 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,600 The greatest thing is that Michelle lived. She was able to fight him off. As 516 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,520 he's stabbing with his left hand and fighting with Ms. Murphy, that's when he 517 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,560 got himself on the right wrist. 518 00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:41,280 Michelle Murphy was like a heroic figure in this case to be able to go up there 519 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,040 and testify to what happened. 520 00:37:43,340 --> 00:37:47,480 With her testimony on the stand, she remains probably one of the strongest 521 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,680 people I've ever known. 522 00:37:48,980 --> 00:37:51,340 I think it had a great impact on the jury. 523 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:57,600 I mean, the defense attorneys had no choice but to concede that, in fact, Mr. 524 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,500 Gargiulo was the one that attacked Michelle Murphy. 525 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,680 They tried to paint that in the best light possible, that he was in some 526 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,260 fugue state or that he was sleepwalking or that he wasn't conscious of his 527 00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:11,200 conduct. The jury, I think, saw through all of that. 528 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:17,060 During the trial, jurors actually were taken out to each crime scene to see 529 00:38:17,060 --> 00:38:20,260 just how close Mike Gargiulo lived to his victims. 530 00:38:20,910 --> 00:38:23,830 This was a very unique part of the trial that I had never seen before in my 531 00:38:23,830 --> 00:38:27,330 career covering court. It was all pretty powerful to see that. 532 00:38:27,650 --> 00:38:33,710 At the end of the day, the murders were just so similar. He had such a 533 00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:40,510 clear blueprint on not only that, but the DNA evidence and his 534 00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:45,710 location in regard to the murders. It was just undoubtable that it was him. 535 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,400 We start with breaking news from Los Angeles, where a verdict has been 536 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,920 reached in the Hollywood Ripper trial. 537 00:38:52,260 --> 00:38:55,520 We have a jury in the above entitled action. Find the defendant, Michael 538 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,780 Gargiulo, guilty of the crime of attempted murder, Michelle Murphy, 539 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,900 guilty of the crime of first-degree murder, Maria Bruno, guilty of the crime 540 00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:04,680 of first-degree murder, Ashley Ellerin. 541 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,420 So there you have it, guilty on all counts. The courtroom was full for the 542 00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:13,040 verdict, and all the family members were there, and you could just feel this 543 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,120 gigantic sense of relief. 544 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:24,520 I ache to hold her. I ache to hear her voice, to hug her. 545 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,420 The images that we have to see, I can not unsee them. 546 00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:40,400 Children gave me their mother, and I was taken from them. 547 00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:48,610 Our top story this morning, serial killer dubbed the Hollywood Ripper has 548 00:39:48,610 --> 00:39:52,430 been sentenced to death for the murder of two women and attempted murder of a 549 00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:53,430 third. 550 00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:58,790 Right now in California, there's a moratorium on death penalty cases, and 551 00:39:58,790 --> 00:40:01,910 so it's unclear if he'll ever face the death penalty. 552 00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:06,950 I do believe that there are other unidentified victims of Mr. Gargiulo 553 00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:10,670 somewhere. At one point in time, Mr. Gargiulo made an admission. 554 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,800 that he was responsible for up to 10 murders. 555 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,880 And I believe that was a truthful admission. 556 00:40:17,860 --> 00:40:23,480 If there are people that watch this, if they think there's a murder or an 557 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,320 assault of some type, and they have information that it may be some way 558 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,600 connected to Mr. Garzullo, they should call local law enforcement, or they 559 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,600 should call the Los Angeles Police Department or the Los Angeles County 560 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:36,600 Sheriff's. 561 00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:41,880 Justice needs to be served and this guy has to pay. 562 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,800 He's got to go. 563 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,820 It's owed to him for all these women and my good friend Ashley. 564 00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:50,640 It's time to go. 565 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,420 Because I lost my best friend. 566 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,560 For what? 567 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,260 Michael Gargiulo currently sits on death row in California. 568 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,400 He's expected to face trial in Illinois for the 1993 murder of Tricia Picaccio. 569 00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:13,840 In August 2023, her family will have waited 30 years for justice in her case. 570 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:15,820 I'm Jesse L. Martin. 571 00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:17,240 Thank you for watching. 572 00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:18,740 Good night. 573 00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:23,340 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 55151

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