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www.addic7ed.com
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In new york
city's war on crime,
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the worst criminal offenders
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are pursued by the detectives
of the major case squad.
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These are their stories.
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- Amen.
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- I asked
for double pepperoni.
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- Next time.
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- Get a paper plate
for the padre here.
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- [quietly]
thank you.
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- Today, when I say "jump,"
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They say "how high?"
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For nine years,
it was the other way around.
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- Everything's a cycle, elvis.
- Oh, yeah.
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Rot and rejuvenation.
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[footsteps approach]
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- Hey, hey, marcus.
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- Aah. Look at you.
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And how's your little girl?
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- She's no longer so little.
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- Yeah, I'm sure she's not.
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And the move to new york--
everything's fine?
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- Doing pretty well.
- Partner?
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You'll never have another one
like me.
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- Well, he's good.
Maybe even special.
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- [exhales]
I'm glad you came...
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For them.
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Courtney would've been
about your age.
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They feel a connection.
- Serena.
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Thank you for coming.
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- Hello, may.
It's okay.
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- Reverend?
- Right here, elvis.
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- Everything's in order?
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I've got something to say.
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Y'all came here to see me die
for the murder
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Of courtney gunderson.
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Well, I'm gonna have
to disappoint you.
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I've done my share
of life taking
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And I've enjoyed it.
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And I do not regret it.
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But I did not kill courtney.
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This so-called act of justice
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Is without purpose
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Because he's still out there.
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And he'll keep doing
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What he likes to do.
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So...
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I just wanted to share that
with you all.
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Any time, warden.
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- It's not true.
He's evil.
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He seized on a last chance
to cause pain.
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Evil.
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- [exhales]
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[monitor beeps rapidly]
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[monitor flatlines]
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[cell phone rings]
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- Hello? Oh, hi, honey.
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No, I'm just leaving work
right now.
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Uh-huh. Yeah, his ear
should be better by now.
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Well, take him
to the emergency room.
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I'll meet you there.
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Episode: Disciple
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Sub by Adriano_CSI
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I got here at 6:15 to open
the side office and saw the car.
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Knew it wasn't any
of our people.
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- The gate was locked?
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- Yeah,
but that don't mean much.
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- How many people
have the keys?
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- Subcontractors coming
and going for over nine months.
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People hitting on them
for a copy of the key.
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- The key
for a construction site?
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What's the appeal?
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- People got reasons to park
someplace that's private.
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What beats this?
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- Single large caliber shot
to his left temple.
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- Very large entry.
- Yeah.
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Bullet probably deformed
on its way through the glass.
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- A hero. No receipt.
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But there's a paycheck stub
made out to diego caldez
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From the agora diner
in queens.
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- He works there,
he eats for free.
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- Well, I'm guessing
since he's got zero body temp,
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Time of death
is before 2:00 am.
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Check out his pants.
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- Oh. His pants
and his underwear
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Are down around his ankles.
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He was in the middle
of a, uh, major distraction.
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- I'm guessing she was female.
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So it's a cheating housewife
followed by a jealous husband
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Or a prostitute teamed
with her pimp to rob him.
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- Not robbed.
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Mr. Caldez was carrying
over $1,000 in ready cash
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Along with, uh, betting slips
from an o.T.B.
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- So whoever it was,
where'd she go?
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- We better get a dog.
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Let's cordon off
this whole area, grant, please.
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All the way from there
back to the car. Thank you.
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- He's losing the scent
right here.
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I don't know, maybe they got
in a car or something.
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- Or maybe she didn't
want to get in
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And they struggled.
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- That was broken off the shoe.
Thank you, joe.
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- He was good.
Fast on the grill.
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Very fast. It's terrible.
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- Yeah. Did you happen
to see him last night, pete?
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- Around 10:00, 10:30.
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Picked up a sandwich
on the way home.
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- He pick up anything
besides the hero?
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- What?
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[distant chatter, laughter]
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- That's the wrong way
to think.
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Even though his wife
was in florida,
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Diego was very married.
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- Well, we happen to know
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That he wasn't very married
last night.
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Thank you, pete.
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- Doesn't even let me
out of the car.
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My nails in the air--
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[overlapping chatter
and giggling]
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- Yeah, that's right, ladies.
We're cops.
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But the good news:
Not vice.
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That's diego caldez.
He worked here.
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No? He bet the horses.
Also liked having a good time.
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Which is why, uh,
we're asking.
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Thank you. Did, uh, anybody
see him last night?
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- Come on.
Don't force us to turn cop.
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- Around 11:00,
he stopped me on the street
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For a quick and easy,
but I was booked for a stand.
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- So he moved on.
You see who he picked?
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- Tough times.
Got a lot of choices out there.
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- All right.
Well, uh, stay safe.
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Thank you.
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- You know the first place
I go in cases like this.
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- Oh, yeah, I know
where you go.
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The home.
- Mm-hmm.
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- You think the wife
was sick of the hookers
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And the gambling,
but the wife's in florida.
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[footsteps approach]
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- Prints found on the heel
from the crime scene
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Are from two women,
maricela fernandez
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And gabriella belteno.
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- In the system?
Let me guess: Prostitutes?
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- Yeah. Maricela's thumbprint
matches a latent
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Found on the door
of the victim's car.
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- Hmm. And look,
they share an address
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In washington heights.
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[baby cries]
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- Maricela fernandez?
- Uh, she no here.
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- We're detectives
with the major case squad.
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- Como?
- Somos detectivos.
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- You haven't seen her
since yesterday?
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What time?
- We eat and she leave.
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When she finish,
she always come home,
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Never leave her baby.
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- You didn't work with her
on the street?
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- When she go,
I stay with the baby.
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I go, she stay
with the baby.
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- All right. Is there a man
you worked with? A pimp?
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- No. Ningun. No men.
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Just she and I.
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We together. Entiendes?
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Que crees?
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Crees que esta muerta?
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- No se. Lo siento.
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We don't know.
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- You must've tried
to call her.
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- Yes, but she no answer.
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- Okay, tower one is here.
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It's reading her.
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- There's a second tower.
Where's that?
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Is that the pelham park area?
- Yeah.
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There's a line crossing
from the third tower.
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Puts the phone here.
- That's hunter island.
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- Yeah. It's the kazimiroff
nature trail.
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- Are we close?
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- We should be right on top
of the phone.
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[phone ringing, dog whining]
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Here. Here.
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Uh-huh.
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Ah. Oh, boy.
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[dogs barking]
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They found her.
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- Jeans are lumpy
at her thighs.
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Panties probably down.
- So raped.
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But then
he dressed her again.
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- Modest. The righteous
are always the worst.
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- Body is well
into rigor mortis.
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There's discoloration
at her neck.
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Probably strangled.
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- Strangles the female.
Goes son of sam on the male.
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- Well, now there's a--
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There's an odd little bit
of synchronicity.
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- What?
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- "hello, from the gutters
of new york city."
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Son of sam.
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He's up for parole
next month.
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- Come on.
You're not thinking copycat.
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- Killer uses a .44.
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Comes upon a couple
about to have sex in a car.
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Anything's possible.
Right?
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Ischemia. blood
flow is restricted.
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The brain dies.
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These burst capillaries,
tramline bruising.
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A device was used
to strangle her.
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Maybe a steel rod.
Piece of wood.
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- .
- Yeah, possibly.
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- That's a hell of an odor.
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- Sort of like
the greatest hits
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Of every bad smell
there is, huh?
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- Thanks for the warning.
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- Well, murder weapon
was probably filthy.
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We found a dna stew
on the skin of her neck.
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Human, animal, plant.
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- Well, he chose
a dumping area.
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Maybe he picked up something
at random.
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- She raped?
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- Well, she had sex
before she died
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With someone who used
a spermicidal condom.
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- Maybe some trick
who picked her up.
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- No, I'm pretty sure
it wasn't.
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We found microscopic fibers.
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She was probably tied
with rawhide.
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Also the evidence indicates
that during intercourse,
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She had her back
to the killer.
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- Wow. Forensic pathology,
it's come a long way.
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You're able to determine
sexual position?
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- The chemical compound
found on her neck
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Was also present on the back
of her exposed thighs.
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- Hmm. These scratches...
- She was a junkie.
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Opiates make you itch.
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Those were self-inflicted.
But this wasn't.
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Ecchymoses-type contusion.
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A love bite.
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- It's just below
her left hip.
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I know it.
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You were right
that it's a copycat.
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But he's not copying
son of sam.
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- So elvis howell killed women
in illinois and indiana.
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- Seven women
were known victims.
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He used a police baton
to strangle prostitutes.
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And used a condom.
- Safe sex.
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- Yeah. And always a hickey
near the victim's left hip.
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Howell once told a reporter
the mark was his salaam
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"to the female womb,
where the cycle of life
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Starts with a seed."
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This is a copycat.
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Everything about this case
matches howell's last victim.
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Her name
was courtney gunderson.
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- This a case you worked on?
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- My fjrst homicide conviction.
252
00:13:56,112 --> 00:13:58,447
We wanted to make cases
on the other victims.
253
00:13:58,515 --> 00:14:00,816
But the best evidence
tied him to courtney.
254
00:14:00,884 --> 00:14:04,720
- Yeah. This guy made some kind
of death house statement
255
00:14:04,788 --> 00:14:07,923
Saying that her killer
was still out there.
256
00:14:07,991 --> 00:14:10,859
- Yeah. The last ditch ploy
of a condemned man.
257
00:14:10,927 --> 00:14:14,196
- Right. But, you know,
I think a, uh, check
258
00:14:14,264 --> 00:14:17,032
Of this guy's visitors
is worth the time.
259
00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:19,535
- The jury had a verdict
before their chairs were warm.
260
00:14:19,602 --> 00:14:21,937
Our case held through nine years
of appeals.
261
00:14:22,005 --> 00:14:23,806
I think we can avoid
the grassy knoll, zack.
262
00:14:23,873 --> 00:14:25,341
- I'm just thinking
about what this guy said.
263
00:14:25,408 --> 00:14:27,676
- I know what he said.
I was there.
264
00:14:27,744 --> 00:14:30,079
- Okay. Time out. Time out.
Let's stick to what we know.
265
00:14:30,146 --> 00:14:31,880
Huh? Howell was a twisted
son of a bitch
266
00:14:31,948 --> 00:14:34,049
And maybe somebody's copying
his work.
267
00:14:34,117 --> 00:14:36,752
- Okay. I'm good with that.
268
00:14:36,820 --> 00:14:38,921
- Okay. So I'm going to get
a warrant for courtney
269
00:14:38,989 --> 00:14:41,090
And maricela's autopsy photos.
270
00:14:41,157 --> 00:14:43,359
And we will compare this homage
to the female womb
271
00:14:43,426 --> 00:14:44,460
With what we have.
272
00:14:44,527 --> 00:14:45,861
- We should also see
the autopsy photos
273
00:14:45,929 --> 00:14:49,131
Of the other women
howell is suspected of killing.
274
00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:54,970
- Chop. Chop. Chop. Chop. Chop.
- Hey. You put that down, son.
275
00:14:55,038 --> 00:14:57,172
Before you hurt yourself.
276
00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,141
Hey, ernie, you ready
to put in that new mulch pile
277
00:14:59,209 --> 00:15:00,376
Behind the greenhouse?
278
00:15:00,443 --> 00:15:02,478
- Six feet wide,
12 feet long, 24 inches deep.
279
00:15:02,545 --> 00:15:05,280
- Magic numbers.
- Multiples, elvy.
280
00:15:05,348 --> 00:15:08,317
Start with one. Presto.
Zygote becomes two. Doubled.
281
00:15:08,385 --> 00:15:13,222
Six becomes 12 becomes 24.
- Ern. Chicken parts.
282
00:15:26,202 --> 00:15:29,405
Ern.
283
00:15:32,776 --> 00:15:34,309
- Look at me. How can I measure
without that?
284
00:15:34,377 --> 00:15:35,711
Bad. Bad. Bad. Damn.
- Ernie.
285
00:15:35,779 --> 00:15:37,446
- Exact 6 and 12 then 24.
How can I miss it?
286
00:15:37,514 --> 00:15:41,917
It's hanging right there.
- Ernie, it's all right now.
287
00:15:41,985 --> 00:15:45,187
Nothing bad's gonna happen,
okay?
288
00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:56,632
[growls]
289
00:15:56,699 --> 00:15:57,866
[grunts]
290
00:15:57,934 --> 00:16:00,636
- I like ernie.
- Yeah, he's a good man.
291
00:16:00,703 --> 00:16:03,705
- But I want to be like you.
292
00:16:03,773 --> 00:16:06,442
- Yeah?
293
00:16:10,713 --> 00:16:12,314
- Cook county m.E.'s office
294
00:16:12,382 --> 00:16:14,950
Can't find courtney gunderson's
autopsy photos.
295
00:16:15,018 --> 00:16:18,353
- No. They're lost?
- More likely stolen.
296
00:16:18,421 --> 00:16:19,988
Ted bundy's been dead
for two decades.
297
00:16:20,056 --> 00:16:23,592
Half his victims' autopsy photos
are for sale on the internet.
298
00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:26,962
But luckily, courtney gunderson
wasn't cremated.
299
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:30,999
- So now we get a court order
and, uh, exhume the body?
300
00:16:31,067 --> 00:16:32,301
- Is that necessary?
301
00:16:32,368 --> 00:16:34,770
Any marks on courtney
were made by elvis howell.
302
00:16:34,838 --> 00:16:37,773
- Unless he didn't work alone.
303
00:16:37,841 --> 00:16:40,342
Bruno and bianchi.
Norris and bittiker.
304
00:16:40,410 --> 00:16:43,979
It happens.
- I'll call a judge.
305
00:16:54,324 --> 00:16:57,593
- What's your name?
- Rayanne.
306
00:16:57,660 --> 00:17:02,231
- Rayanne.
It's a pretty name.
307
00:17:02,298 --> 00:17:05,834
- I don't do rough stuff.
308
00:17:05,902 --> 00:17:08,670
And I don't do nothing
without protection.
309
00:17:08,738 --> 00:17:11,840
- That sounds good.
310
00:17:11,908 --> 00:17:14,576
Why don't you
make me right again?
311
00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:23,585
- Swing by jackson and arch,
baby.
312
00:17:23,653 --> 00:17:26,555
I got to score some jivvie.
313
00:17:26,623 --> 00:17:29,324
- Might be able
to save you a trip.
314
00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,335
- [clears throat]
315
00:17:40,403 --> 00:17:44,039
- Marcus.
- Hello, serena.
316
00:17:46,342 --> 00:17:49,244
Oh, uh, zack nichols,
this is marcus feingold, my--
317
00:17:49,312 --> 00:17:52,581
- Mentor
from chicago homicide.
318
00:17:52,649 --> 00:17:55,284
Very good to meet you,
mr. Feingold.
319
00:17:55,351 --> 00:17:56,952
- Oh, pleasure
to meet you, sir.
320
00:17:57,020 --> 00:17:58,620
- What are you doing
in new york?
321
00:17:58,688 --> 00:18:00,889
- Hello.
It's marcus, sweetheart.
322
00:18:00,957 --> 00:18:03,091
Remember? Now you want
to tell me what the hell
323
00:18:03,159 --> 00:18:05,761
Is going on?
324
00:18:05,828 --> 00:18:07,296
- We have a prostitute.
325
00:18:07,363 --> 00:18:09,565
Raped. Strangled. Love bite.
The works.
326
00:18:09,632 --> 00:18:10,866
- Oh, okay.
327
00:18:10,934 --> 00:18:12,701
So all this mess is because
that hillbilly snapper
328
00:18:12,769 --> 00:18:14,269
Wasted two minutes
of everybody's time
329
00:18:14,337 --> 00:18:16,405
Announcing that he didn't kill
courtney gunderson.
330
00:18:16,472 --> 00:18:18,507
[scoffs] don't tell me
you believed him.
331
00:18:18,575 --> 00:18:20,909
- No. No. It's just
about being sure that--
332
00:18:20,977 --> 00:18:23,545
- You know, her folks
have spent the last nine years
333
00:18:23,613 --> 00:18:25,080
Learning to walk past
an empty bedroom.
334
00:18:25,148 --> 00:18:26,381
- I know that
as well as you, marcus.
335
00:18:26,449 --> 00:18:27,516
- The cook county coroner's
336
00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:28,817
About to pull
their daughter's body
337
00:18:28,885 --> 00:18:29,918
Out of the ground.
338
00:18:29,986 --> 00:18:32,821
And it's because
you want to be sure?
339
00:18:32,889 --> 00:18:34,223
Don't do this, serena.
340
00:18:34,290 --> 00:18:37,492
- It was my idea to disinter
the body, mr. Feingold.
341
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,228
- The autopsy photos
are missing.
342
00:18:39,295 --> 00:18:42,264
We want to compare courtney--
- that's right.
343
00:18:42,332 --> 00:18:44,032
Because no pervert's
going to find those photos
344
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:46,768
On the internet.
345
00:18:46,836 --> 00:18:48,570
- I see.
346
00:18:48,638 --> 00:18:49,838
Who'd you grease
347
00:18:49,906 --> 00:18:51,740
To sit on courtney gunderson's
photos, marcus?
348
00:18:51,808 --> 00:18:53,809
- What did you say?
- I think you heard me.
349
00:18:53,876 --> 00:18:55,877
You want to help
the gunderson family,
350
00:18:55,945 --> 00:18:57,879
Spend a buck and light a candle
at st. Patrick's
351
00:18:57,947 --> 00:19:00,782
For those autopsy photos
to miraculously turn up
352
00:19:00,850 --> 00:19:04,152
Or she's coming out
of the ground.
353
00:19:14,564 --> 00:19:18,033
- In...The...Ditch.
354
00:19:18,101 --> 00:19:21,036
Got you.
355
00:19:21,104 --> 00:19:23,905
I'm jonesing hard.
356
00:19:27,577 --> 00:19:31,179
Take me down, little suzie.
357
00:19:34,183 --> 00:19:36,852
Just give me a sec.
358
00:19:36,919 --> 00:19:41,857
Baby, can you just give me
a sec?
359
00:19:41,924 --> 00:19:45,160
Undo your pants.
360
00:20:19,829 --> 00:20:22,631
- Somebody lit that candle
at st. Patrick's.
361
00:20:30,993 --> 00:20:32,527
- Two suction bruises.
362
00:20:32,595 --> 00:20:34,162
One from courtney gunderson.
363
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:36,565
The other
from maricela fernandez.
364
00:20:36,632 --> 00:20:37,966
- Remarkably similar.
365
00:20:38,034 --> 00:20:40,836
And unless elvis howell
puckered up from the grave,
366
00:20:40,903 --> 00:20:43,872
He did not put that hickey
on maricela fernandez.
367
00:20:43,940 --> 00:20:47,075
- Let's hear dr. Sunday's
expert opinion.
368
00:20:47,143 --> 00:20:49,244
- The so-called hickey
is a suction bruise.
369
00:20:49,312 --> 00:20:50,545
The lips create
an air-tight seal.
370
00:20:50,613 --> 00:20:53,348
Suction creates a cluster
of petechial bruises.
371
00:20:53,416 --> 00:20:55,617
On these--credited with being
howell's earlier victims--
372
00:20:55,685 --> 00:20:57,452
The bruising is less defined.
373
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,956
See, his thinner lips
created less of a seal.
374
00:21:01,023 --> 00:21:03,024
But these two differ
from those.
375
00:21:03,092 --> 00:21:05,394
The bruises made on these women
were made by someone
376
00:21:05,461 --> 00:21:06,695
With full lips.
377
00:21:06,763 --> 00:21:08,530
- And you know that because...?
378
00:21:08,598 --> 00:21:09,998
- It was harder for howell
to form a seal
379
00:21:10,066 --> 00:21:11,500
So he used his teeth.
380
00:21:11,567 --> 00:21:13,835
These impressions match
his dental arch.
381
00:21:13,903 --> 00:21:15,370
You don't have that
on these other victims.
382
00:21:15,438 --> 00:21:17,606
- If it's not howell's mark
on courtney gunderson,
383
00:21:17,673 --> 00:21:19,441
Are we thinking howell
was innocent?
384
00:21:19,509 --> 00:21:21,777
- Even if courtney's mark
wasn't made by howell,
385
00:21:21,844 --> 00:21:22,944
He still could've killed her.
386
00:21:23,012 --> 00:21:26,548
- Or somebody he worked with.
387
00:21:26,616 --> 00:21:28,483
A disciple?
388
00:21:28,551 --> 00:21:32,154
We should find out
who howell knew.
389
00:21:32,221 --> 00:21:33,955
- Case is closed in chicago.
390
00:21:34,023 --> 00:21:35,390
- Yes.
I'm--I'm aware of that.
391
00:21:35,458 --> 00:21:38,560
But he might've had a friend
392
00:21:38,628 --> 00:21:41,363
Or soue name in the visitors'
logs of the prison.
393
00:21:41,431 --> 00:21:43,665
- I'll coordinate
with chicago pd.
394
00:21:43,733 --> 00:21:45,000
Get somebody to check it.
395
00:21:45,067 --> 00:21:48,136
- They already tried to get cute
with the autopsy photos.
396
00:21:48,204 --> 00:21:52,941
Let me go to chicago.
- Keep your head down.
397
00:21:55,611 --> 00:21:57,712
- Hey, would you like me
to, uh, come with you?
398
00:21:57,780 --> 00:21:59,848
I could use
the frequent flyer miles.
399
00:21:59,916 --> 00:22:02,117
- Are you saying
I can't be trusted?
400
00:22:02,185 --> 00:22:04,186
- No, serena.
Certainly not.
401
00:22:04,253 --> 00:22:05,320
But I know that you have a--
402
00:22:05,388 --> 00:22:06,721
You know,
you have a personal investment
403
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:07,956
In this whole thing.
404
00:22:08,024 --> 00:22:09,524
- And I don't think elvis howell
was innocent.
405
00:22:09,592 --> 00:22:12,227
And we haven't proven
otherwise.
406
00:22:12,295 --> 00:22:14,863
When and if we do,
I'll accept it.
407
00:22:14,931 --> 00:22:18,333
Good enough?
- Sure.
408
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:30,712
- You didn't need to come
all this way, detective.
409
00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:32,714
I reviewed all the logs.
410
00:22:32,782 --> 00:22:35,250
Other than his lawyer
and a few curious reporters,
411
00:22:35,318 --> 00:22:37,319
Howell spent nine years
without a visitor.
412
00:22:37,386 --> 00:22:39,888
- Did he make any friends
here inside?
413
00:22:39,956 --> 00:22:42,491
- Condemned men are isolated
from the general population.
414
00:22:42,558 --> 00:22:46,495
The c.O.S in that unit
barely put up with him.
415
00:22:46,562 --> 00:22:48,129
Howell had a funky sense
of humor.
416
00:22:48,197 --> 00:22:50,899
Only one you might call
his friend was our chaplain,
417
00:22:50,967 --> 00:22:54,436
Reverend redding.
418
00:22:59,242 --> 00:23:01,343
- You have a garden
in new york, detective?
419
00:23:01,410 --> 00:23:06,715
- No. No. Just an ant farm
lovingly tended by my daughter.
420
00:23:06,782 --> 00:23:11,753
- My wife loved
heirloom tomatoes.
421
00:23:11,821 --> 00:23:15,790
- Sorry for your loss.
- She's not dead, just gone.
422
00:23:15,858 --> 00:23:17,726
Couldn't deal with it.
423
00:23:17,793 --> 00:23:21,129
I've attended 73 executions.
424
00:23:21,197 --> 00:23:25,600
Carol called it quits
somewhere around the 60th.
425
00:23:25,668 --> 00:23:29,137
- The warden said you were close
to elvis howell.
426
00:23:29,205 --> 00:23:32,707
- He taught me
how to grow vegetables.
427
00:23:32,775 --> 00:23:35,944
And I taught him how to die.
428
00:23:36,012 --> 00:23:37,279
- So there was trust
between you?
429
00:23:37,346 --> 00:23:40,115
- Maybe. But, uh,
it wouldn't be right
430
00:23:40,182 --> 00:23:42,517
For me to share it.
431
00:23:42,585 --> 00:23:45,186
- Even if it could stop someone
from raping and murdering women
432
00:23:45,254 --> 00:23:48,156
Exactly the way he did?
433
00:23:48,224 --> 00:23:49,591
- I'm sorry to hear
about that.
434
00:23:49,659 --> 00:23:51,092
- Before he died,
435
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,162
Elvis asked you if everything
was in order.
436
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:56,264
- In order?
- He did. I heard him.
437
00:23:56,332 --> 00:23:59,534
You tapped your shirt pocket.
- I can't...
438
00:23:59,602 --> 00:24:01,836
- What was in your shirt pocket?
- Look, I'm not responsible.
439
00:24:01,904 --> 00:24:02,971
- Yes, you are, reverend.
440
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:06,207
Unless you tell me,
you are responsible.
441
00:24:06,275 --> 00:24:08,577
- He just wanted me
to mail a letter.
442
00:24:08,644 --> 00:24:10,211
- Did he say
what was in the letter?
443
00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:15,684
- Just a good-bye to a friend.
- Name on the letter?
444
00:24:15,751 --> 00:24:18,286
- Dale. Just dale.
No last name.
445
00:24:18,354 --> 00:24:21,423
- Do you know the address?
446
00:24:27,263 --> 00:24:29,164
- Hey, I got a good idea.
447
00:24:29,231 --> 00:24:34,669
From here on in, let's just,
uh, shelve conclusions,
448
00:24:34,737 --> 00:24:37,639
Follow the evidence,
catch this guy.
449
00:24:37,707 --> 00:24:40,575
You know, let's keep
an open mind.
450
00:24:40,643 --> 00:24:42,611
- Both of us.
451
00:24:42,678 --> 00:24:48,049
- Yeah. I said let's.
That's plural. "let us."
452
00:24:48,117 --> 00:24:52,120
- Right.
- Great.
453
00:24:52,188 --> 00:24:55,190
- I meant turn right.
454
00:24:59,261 --> 00:25:03,598
- Unfortunately, uh, we don't
have a, uh, a last name.
455
00:25:03,666 --> 00:25:06,401
All we've got is dale.
- Dale.
456
00:25:06,469 --> 00:25:08,003
- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.
457
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:09,404
Well, there was one dale.
458
00:25:09,472 --> 00:25:12,807
Uh, it was dale,
uh, grisco.
459
00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:15,977
- Mm-hmm. Dale grisco.
Is he here?
460
00:25:16,045 --> 00:25:17,278
- No. Thank god.
461
00:25:17,346 --> 00:25:19,648
He would be in his mid-20s
by now.
462
00:25:19,715 --> 00:25:21,683
He ran off
when he was about 15.
463
00:25:21,751 --> 00:25:23,652
- Uh-huh. He gave you
a hard time?
464
00:25:23,719 --> 00:25:27,989
- Uh, yeah.
He was a pain in the butt.
465
00:25:28,057 --> 00:25:32,927
Weird. Would you like a seat,
officer?
466
00:25:32,995 --> 00:25:36,164
I would've, uh, flipped him back
out to county
467
00:25:36,232 --> 00:25:38,099
If it hadn't been
for his life coach.
468
00:25:38,167 --> 00:25:41,469
- His life coach?
- Yeah. Guidance program.
469
00:25:41,537 --> 00:25:44,005
Volunteer comes in
three days a week.
470
00:25:44,073 --> 00:25:47,075
Took dale to a baseball game,
bowling.
471
00:25:47,143 --> 00:25:48,977
They really bonded.
He cared.
472
00:25:49,045 --> 00:25:51,913
And, uh, huh, that made a hell
of a difference.
473
00:25:51,981 --> 00:25:54,683
- About five months ago,
a letter was sent here
474
00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:56,184
Addressed to dale.
475
00:25:56,252 --> 00:25:57,986
- Well, if it was sent
in the last six months,
476
00:25:58,054 --> 00:26:01,923
Uh, I've got it here
somewhere.
477
00:26:09,198 --> 00:26:14,836
- Remember, keep checking
the depth.
478
00:26:14,904 --> 00:26:17,906
- 24 inches.
479
00:26:20,776 --> 00:26:23,411
- Brought you a slurry.
480
00:26:26,415 --> 00:26:29,350
- "dale-y dale, I know
you were dying to visit me
481
00:26:29,418 --> 00:26:31,286
"over the nine-plus years
I've been in here.
482
00:26:31,353 --> 00:26:33,388
"I don't blame you one bit
for my incarceration.
483
00:26:33,456 --> 00:26:36,257
"I told you to run.
You were a good listener.
484
00:26:36,325 --> 00:26:37,726
"so be it.
485
00:26:37,793 --> 00:26:41,129
"although I got credit
for your fine cleansing,
486
00:26:41,197 --> 00:26:43,298
"the last one chosen
was all you.
487
00:26:43,365 --> 00:26:46,434
"I will make it right
and give you your due.
488
00:26:46,502 --> 00:26:51,539
"but give them no name.
Keep uthe good work.
489
00:26:51,607 --> 00:26:54,876
"I want you to know
how proud I am of you.
490
00:26:54,944 --> 00:26:58,046
"embrace the death
that surrounds you.
491
00:26:58,114 --> 00:27:00,882
"and what rots
is sure to rise.
492
00:27:00,950 --> 00:27:05,720
"your teacher and friend,
professor howell.
493
00:27:05,788 --> 00:27:08,289
Elvis has left the building."
494
00:27:08,357 --> 00:27:11,860
- Is it possible
for someone to be that insane?
495
00:27:11,927 --> 00:27:14,229
- It's nice to be loved.
- Yeah.
496
00:27:14,296 --> 00:27:19,400
- Somewhere out there,
elvis howell left a star pupil.
497
00:27:19,468 --> 00:27:20,869
- If he really taught
dale grisco
498
00:27:20,936 --> 00:27:24,072
How to rape and murder,
wasn't it already in him?
499
00:27:24,140 --> 00:27:25,306
Can that be learned?
500
00:27:25,374 --> 00:27:28,643
- Nature or nurture?
501
00:27:28,711 --> 00:27:30,779
We may never know.
- Okay, thanks.
502
00:27:30,846 --> 00:27:33,615
Uh, addicts' hostel
in prospect heights
503
00:27:33,682 --> 00:27:36,618
Filed an m.P. On a 20-year-old
rayanne farmer.
504
00:27:36,685 --> 00:27:38,086
Missing for three days.
505
00:27:38,154 --> 00:27:41,389
Last seen in hunter's point.
506
00:27:52,709 --> 00:27:54,742
There's three teams working
the hunter's point area.
507
00:27:55,045 --> 00:27:56,478
If she's dead,
they haven't found her yet.
508
00:27:56,546 --> 00:27:58,647
- Hmm. Well, he could have
other ideas about dispososing
509
00:27:58,715 --> 00:27:59,948
Of his victims.
510
00:28:00,016 --> 00:28:02,951
Serial killers don't always
limit themselves.
511
00:28:03,019 --> 00:28:05,888
Dmv and irs
have a lot of dale griscos,
512
00:28:05,955 --> 00:28:08,924
But none that match the d.O.B.
That we got from child welfare.
513
00:28:08,992 --> 00:28:10,993
- Maybe he changed his day,
month, or year of birth
514
00:28:11,061 --> 00:28:12,461
To confuse the records.
515
00:28:12,529 --> 00:28:14,463
- Or he gave himself
a new birthday.
516
00:28:14,531 --> 00:28:15,631
Maybe he didn't like himself.
517
00:28:15,698 --> 00:28:19,368
Maybe he isn't a happy
serial killer.
518
00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:21,437
You know, he dressed
maricela fernandez
519
00:28:21,504 --> 00:28:23,405
After he raped
and strangled her, right?
520
00:28:23,473 --> 00:28:24,640
He's still human.
521
00:28:24,707 --> 00:28:27,109
- No way he got any humanity
from his mentor.
522
00:28:27,177 --> 00:28:28,610
But he might have stolen
his name.
523
00:28:28,678 --> 00:28:31,613
- Mm. Mm. Okay.
524
00:28:31,681 --> 00:28:34,249
Dale howell
525
00:28:34,317 --> 00:28:37,786
Or dale elvis.
526
00:28:37,854 --> 00:28:40,222
- It's a big list.
I've got a thought.
527
00:28:40,290 --> 00:28:42,357
Elvis howell taught grisco
how to kill.
528
00:28:42,425 --> 00:28:44,359
What's grisco doing
when he's not killing?
529
00:28:44,427 --> 00:28:45,394
- It's not a bad thought.
530
00:28:45,462 --> 00:28:47,563
Serial killers
don't hibernate.
531
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:49,064
Manson's followers
had a family.
532
00:28:49,132 --> 00:28:53,035
They played music.
Maybe grisco learned a trade.
533
00:28:53,103 --> 00:28:55,137
- Howell taught reverend redding
how to grow things.
534
00:28:55,205 --> 00:28:57,039
The cycle of life.
535
00:28:57,107 --> 00:28:59,208
Maybe elvis passed this on
to grisco too.
536
00:28:59,275 --> 00:29:03,545
- All right, planting
or gardening--landscaping.
537
00:29:03,613 --> 00:29:07,082
- Landscaping.
Landscaping.
538
00:29:07,150 --> 00:29:10,452
That means he might've gotten
to a construction site.
539
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,754
Here's the list
of all the subcontractors
540
00:29:12,822 --> 00:29:17,926
Who had keys to the gate
where diego caldez was murdered.
541
00:29:17,994 --> 00:29:20,896
Here. Elvis' nursery
and landscaping.
542
00:29:20,964 --> 00:29:21,897
- Yeah.
543
00:29:21,965 --> 00:29:23,432
And it's in jackson heights
544
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,168
Near the dumping ground.
545
00:29:26,236 --> 00:29:29,171
- I'm happier
than I even dreamed, janine.
546
00:29:29,239 --> 00:29:31,507
The work I do.
547
00:29:31,574 --> 00:29:35,611
Having a family.
548
00:29:35,678 --> 00:29:40,516
What is it, hon?
549
00:29:40,583 --> 00:29:44,553
Come on. Come on.
550
00:29:44,621 --> 00:29:49,291
There's something.
551
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:50,926
- I was in your sock drawer
to sort them.
552
00:29:50,994 --> 00:29:55,030
- And I know what you found.
- I know it's drugs, dale.
553
00:29:55,098 --> 00:29:59,301
- It's heroin.
554
00:29:59,369 --> 00:30:03,138
No, wait.
I took it from ernie.
555
00:30:03,206 --> 00:30:04,740
- Ernie?
556
00:30:04,807 --> 00:30:07,042
- Those day worker guys
are trying to get him to try it.
557
00:30:07,110 --> 00:30:09,144
And he told me,
and I took it.
558
00:30:09,212 --> 00:30:13,582
- Maybe you should let him go.
- Fire ernie?
559
00:30:13,650 --> 00:30:15,450
He deserves a chance.
560
00:30:15,518 --> 00:30:19,054
If one person hadn't come along,
decided I was worth a chance,
561
00:30:19,122 --> 00:30:21,056
I wouldn't have nothing.
562
00:30:21,124 --> 00:30:24,293
I wouldn't have you.
I wouldn't have anything.
563
00:30:26,729 --> 00:30:29,798
All right?
- Dad. Mom.
564
00:30:29,866 --> 00:30:31,700
- Hey.
[grunts]
565
00:30:31,768 --> 00:30:35,370
- Dad, mom, can we get
some popcorn?
566
00:30:35,438 --> 00:30:38,307
- Yes.
567
00:31:05,902 --> 00:31:08,837
- If smell is any indication,
568
00:31:08,905 --> 00:31:11,273
I'd hate to think
what's in here.
569
00:31:11,341 --> 00:31:14,476
- Uh-huh.
We should get a team in here.
570
00:31:14,544 --> 00:31:16,979
- Well, there's fertilizer
everywhere.
571
00:31:17,046 --> 00:31:19,715
We need more than a bad smell
for probable cause.
572
00:31:27,223 --> 00:31:29,124
- Mr. Grisco!
573
00:31:29,192 --> 00:31:32,694
- Hey, hold on. Hold on.
Hey, hold on. We're the police!
574
00:31:32,762 --> 00:31:34,663
- Down on the ground!
Down on the ground.
575
00:31:34,731 --> 00:31:36,198
You won't get hurt.
- I'm--I'm just ernie.
576
00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:38,200
I work with dale.
I don't do drugs.
577
00:31:38,268 --> 00:31:40,535
Dale makes sure of it.
- Drugs? What drugs?
578
00:31:40,603 --> 00:31:44,139
- Heroin's bad.
I know it is.
579
00:31:44,207 --> 00:31:49,044
- Heroin is bad.
580
00:31:51,948 --> 00:31:53,515
- State identification
certificate
581
00:31:53,583 --> 00:31:55,083
But no driver's license?
582
00:31:55,151 --> 00:31:58,654
- I don't drive.
I have problems.
583
00:31:58,721 --> 00:32:00,155
- Problems?
584
00:32:00,223 --> 00:32:02,791
- I was always special ed.
I'm good with numbers.
585
00:32:02,859 --> 00:32:03,925
- Good with numbers?
586
00:32:03,993 --> 00:32:06,194
Ernie, do you happen to know
the combination
587
00:32:06,262 --> 00:32:07,829
To this lock
on the freezer there?
588
00:32:07,897 --> 00:32:11,133
- No.
Only dale knows that.
589
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,368
I only do as dale tells me.
590
00:32:13,436 --> 00:32:16,938
He'll be mad
'cause you took it.
591
00:32:17,006 --> 00:32:19,374
- Took what?
- The stick.
592
00:32:19,442 --> 00:32:23,645
24 inches. Magic numbers
for everything we do.
593
00:32:23,713 --> 00:32:27,783
- You mean this?
24 inches long?
594
00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:30,018
- You stick it in the mulch,
it's just the right depth.
595
00:32:30,086 --> 00:32:34,356
24 inches. 6, 12, 24.
The magic numbers.
596
00:32:34,424 --> 00:32:37,626
- 6, 12, 24.
597
00:33:03,186 --> 00:33:04,252
It's empty.
598
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,557
- Everything in there
has been mulched.
599
00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:22,204
- Oh, my god.
Is this about ernie? The drugs?
600
00:33:22,271 --> 00:33:27,442
- I'll deal with this.
I love you.
601
00:33:29,112 --> 00:33:31,413
- Daddy,
where are you going?
602
00:33:31,481 --> 00:33:33,815
- Turn around.
603
00:33:33,883 --> 00:33:35,717
Hands against the car.
604
00:33:42,592 --> 00:33:45,494
- It's him. Dale grisco.
605
00:33:55,104 --> 00:33:58,673
- They discovered fragments
of human remains.
606
00:33:58,741 --> 00:33:59,941
I think we found
rayanne farmer.
607
00:34:00,009 --> 00:34:01,376
They're probably going
to find others.
608
00:34:01,444 --> 00:34:03,412
So that's it.
609
00:34:03,479 --> 00:34:05,814
- Not for me.
Courtney gunderson.
610
00:34:05,882 --> 00:34:08,283
- It's a closed case,
serena.
611
00:34:08,351 --> 00:34:09,384
- I have to know.
612
00:34:09,452 --> 00:34:11,119
Was it really this guy
613
00:34:11,187 --> 00:34:14,790
Who killed courtney?
614
00:34:14,857 --> 00:34:16,024
- If we reopen
that other case,
615
00:34:16,092 --> 00:34:18,093
We're gonna be challenging
everybody.
616
00:34:18,161 --> 00:34:19,861
We're gonna be challenging
your own police work.
617
00:34:19,929 --> 00:34:21,363
We're gonna be challenging
the prosecution.
618
00:34:21,431 --> 00:34:22,531
Challenging
the highest authority
619
00:34:22,598 --> 00:34:23,765
In the state of illinois.
620
00:34:23,833 --> 00:34:25,200
- And at some point,
I'm gonna have to answer
621
00:34:25,268 --> 00:34:26,601
To a much higher authority.
622
00:34:26,669 --> 00:34:31,807
I have to know.
623
00:34:31,874 --> 00:34:33,575
- None of it fits, man.
624
00:34:33,643 --> 00:34:36,111
- None of what fits?
625
00:34:36,179 --> 00:34:38,914
- These things
that you've done.
626
00:34:38,981 --> 00:34:42,651
It doesn't fit who you are.
627
00:34:42,718 --> 00:34:44,519
- What, my family?
- Yeah.
628
00:34:44,587 --> 00:34:47,823
- Btk had a family.
See, he was an usher in church.
629
00:34:47,890 --> 00:34:49,891
- No, no, there's--
there's something--
630
00:34:49,959 --> 00:34:51,793
Something different
about you, dale.
631
00:34:51,861 --> 00:34:55,297
- You have evidence, so you know
all you need to know.
632
00:34:55,364 --> 00:34:57,265
- Yeah. It works for us.
633
00:34:57,333 --> 00:35:01,670
But, uh,
do you want your boy
634
00:35:01,737 --> 00:35:03,839
Labeled the son
of the monster?
635
00:35:03,906 --> 00:35:09,444
- I've cleansed the world
of whores and whoremongers.
636
00:35:09,512 --> 00:35:12,481
- Courtney gunderson
taught kindergarten.
637
00:35:12,548 --> 00:35:16,852
- Hmm. Mistakes are made.
[laughs]
638
00:35:16,919 --> 00:35:20,188
I mean, you killed elvis.
639
00:35:20,256 --> 00:35:22,691
[gasps]
640
00:35:22,758 --> 00:35:26,828
- Here. Look at these pictures
of courtney gunderson, dale.
641
00:35:26,896 --> 00:35:29,698
You couldn't
have mistakenly thought
642
00:35:29,765 --> 00:35:32,834
That courtney gunderson
was a prostitute.
643
00:35:32,902 --> 00:35:35,537
- Why didn't you come forward,
admit to courtney?
644
00:35:35,605 --> 00:35:37,806
- He wanted me free.
645
00:35:37,874 --> 00:35:39,474
Cleansing
as he would've cleansed.
646
00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:42,344
Turn them into plant life.
Something clean.
647
00:35:42,411 --> 00:35:46,381
- Mulching
helped make them disappear.
648
00:35:49,952 --> 00:35:52,621
You were 15 when courtney
was murdered.
649
00:35:52,688 --> 00:35:54,322
You were just a kid.
650
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:58,193
Is that why you picked
the wrong victim?
651
00:35:58,261 --> 00:36:01,429
- [laughs]
what does it matter?
652
00:36:01,497 --> 00:36:04,633
- Because something
about what you've told us
653
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:05,700
Doesn't jibe.
654
00:36:05,768 --> 00:36:08,470
There was no cleansing
with courtney.
655
00:36:08,538 --> 00:36:11,373
Courtney was clean.
A clean girl.
656
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,709
Walking from school
in a summer dress.
657
00:36:14,777 --> 00:36:16,878
Now, she gets pulled
into a van.
658
00:36:16,946 --> 00:36:19,614
Howell's van.
We know that from a fiber match.
659
00:36:19,682 --> 00:36:22,551
Where were you?
- Hmm.
660
00:36:22,618 --> 00:36:26,922
Obviously I was there.
661
00:36:26,989 --> 00:36:28,223
- And howell was there.
662
00:36:28,291 --> 00:36:30,258
You were 15.
Too young to drive.
663
00:36:30,326 --> 00:36:34,963
He drove.
664
00:36:35,031 --> 00:36:37,766
- Elvis drove.
- Okay. Okay.
665
00:36:37,833 --> 00:36:42,637
So he must've prepped you.
Told you what to look for.
666
00:36:42,705 --> 00:36:46,341
But that would've en
prostitutes,
667
00:36:46,409 --> 00:36:48,877
Not courtney.
668
00:36:48,945 --> 00:36:51,646
She's so different
from his other victims.
669
00:36:51,714 --> 00:36:56,284
Unless she was your choice.
670
00:36:56,352 --> 00:36:59,220
Did he pick her for you?
671
00:37:08,064 --> 00:37:13,335
They found these photos
of courtney
672
00:37:13,402 --> 00:37:14,736
In howell's house.
673
00:37:14,804 --> 00:37:17,339
Part of the training,
right?
674
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:23,311
- training?
- Come on. You guys talked sex.
675
00:37:23,379 --> 00:37:25,013
He showed you these pictures
of courtney.
676
00:37:25,081 --> 00:37:28,350
He got you excited.
Didn't he offer her to you?
677
00:37:28,417 --> 00:37:29,618
- What do you mean "offered"?
678
00:37:29,685 --> 00:37:33,755
- Offered you fantasies
of sex and violence.
679
00:37:33,823 --> 00:37:36,057
Some boys in their early teens
make them up.
680
00:37:36,125 --> 00:37:38,927
Elvis knew
that you wanted courtney
681
00:37:38,995 --> 00:37:40,362
And so he used her
to excite you.
682
00:37:40,429 --> 00:37:44,399
- Why the hell
would he do that, huh?
683
00:37:44,467 --> 00:37:49,070
- So that he could gain power
over you.
684
00:37:49,138 --> 00:37:51,806
- No.
685
00:37:51,874 --> 00:37:55,243
No, he wanted me
to be my--my own man.
686
00:37:55,311 --> 00:37:57,545
- Yeah, but the problem is
the man that he wanted
687
00:37:57,613 --> 00:37:59,080
Is not the man that you are.
688
00:37:59,148 --> 00:38:01,549
Here.
Look at these people.
689
00:38:01,617 --> 00:38:04,953
See these people?
You care for these people.
690
00:38:05,021 --> 00:38:07,288
You care
about ernie's problems.
691
00:38:07,356 --> 00:38:09,824
And you care about your son's
ear infections.
692
00:38:09,892 --> 00:38:14,129
Elvis howell
never had the capacity
693
00:38:14,196 --> 00:38:16,965
To feel like that.
694
00:38:17,033 --> 00:38:22,170
Dale, he made a bad choice
in you.
695
00:38:22,238 --> 00:38:27,208
And now with what you've done,
feeling and caring,
696
00:38:27,276 --> 00:38:31,279
That's gonna be
a real burden.
697
00:38:31,347 --> 00:38:33,548
- I'm guilty.
Why are you doing this?
698
00:38:42,124 --> 00:38:47,829
- So that you know
who you really are.
699
00:38:47,897 --> 00:38:52,100
- Maybe I don't want
to know that.
700
00:38:55,371 --> 00:38:59,340
- He tempted you.
He aroused you.
701
00:38:59,408 --> 00:39:03,378
Said you could have her.
702
00:39:03,446 --> 00:39:06,014
That he'd show you how.
703
00:39:06,082 --> 00:39:11,386
- He showed me on a whore
704
00:39:11,454 --> 00:39:13,688
Who cursed
and screamed filth.
705
00:39:13,756 --> 00:39:15,857
The kind that I--I'd heard
from my mother
706
00:39:15,925 --> 00:39:17,625
And the whoremongers
that she brought around.
707
00:39:17,693 --> 00:39:22,397
Filth that I hated.
708
00:39:22,465 --> 00:39:24,632
But the rake handle,
that made that whore silent.
709
00:39:28,104 --> 00:39:33,141
- Did courtney scream filth?
Did courtney scream?
710
00:39:33,209 --> 00:39:37,178
- Yes. She begged.
711
00:39:37,246 --> 00:39:40,949
And pleaded.
712
00:39:41,016 --> 00:39:44,886
But--but when she asked god
to forgive me...
713
00:39:47,757 --> 00:39:50,492
When she said that...
714
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:54,095
- You couldn't do it.
715
00:39:54,163 --> 00:39:57,265
- Understand...
716
00:39:57,333 --> 00:40:00,869
Elvis alone cared for me,
717
00:40:00,936 --> 00:40:05,874
And I failed.
718
00:40:05,941 --> 00:40:10,678
But I only failed him once.
719
00:40:10,746 --> 00:40:13,448
- Elvis killed courtney.
720
00:40:34,637 --> 00:40:37,872
- What happened next, dale?
721
00:40:37,940 --> 00:40:41,276
- I told him I was sorry.
722
00:40:41,343 --> 00:40:44,445
I showed him.
I put my lips on her stomach.
723
00:40:44,513 --> 00:40:47,282
And I left our mark there.
724
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:48,750
I swore
I'd never fail him again.
725
00:40:48,818 --> 00:40:51,152
And I haven't.
726
00:40:51,220 --> 00:40:54,889
I haven't.
727
00:40:54,957 --> 00:40:58,159
Until now.
728
00:41:16,745 --> 00:41:22,483
- Detective.
729
00:41:22,551 --> 00:41:25,920
Marcus.
730
00:41:25,988 --> 00:41:28,823
- Before I head back,
I need to know.
731
00:41:28,891 --> 00:41:31,159
- We're okay.
732
00:41:31,227 --> 00:41:33,394
I'll call the gundersons.
733
00:41:36,699 --> 00:41:42,270
- He help us out?
- Yeah, he did.
734
00:41:42,338 --> 00:41:46,273
- I don't know the man,
but thank him for me.
735
00:42:00,755 --> 00:42:03,190
- Things are okay?
736
00:42:03,258 --> 00:42:05,893
- Things are fine.
737
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,629
Thanks.
738
00:42:08,696 --> 00:42:12,432
That's from marcus.
739
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,301
And me.
740
00:42:16,538 --> 00:42:19,540
- I'm just very happy
to have been wrong.
741
00:42:20,305 --> 00:42:26,222
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