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I really wanted to live in LA.

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I wanted to find an agency
to start modelling.

This is the building
where the Ford agency is.

I think it was the eighth floor.

It's almost like I can see myself,
like, outside of my body.

I've noticed I do that, though.

Like, if there's, like,
some sort of trauma involved,

I really do, like, just detach.

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
Jared Leto.

He was standing...

...to the left of those double doors.

My mom noticed him
as we were going up the stairs.

I kind of saw him look over.

He hung up the phone and just, like,
walked right in behind us.

He brought up
that he had won a major award.

Does anybody want to try it out
for size?

You can, if anybody wants to fondle.

SCATTERED LAUGHTER

Yeah, here.

He was like, "Oh, yeah,
you're going to get signed.

"Definitely. You're so beautiful."

And he asked for my email

so he can invite me and my mom
to his, like, Oscar party.

I bet this is a first -
the first person to ever...

...give their Oscar away for...

...an orgy in the press room.

SCATTERED LAUGHTER

I was 16 at the time

and he was 42.

He did email me
and then, very quickly,

it turns into this whole,
like, sexual thing on the phone,

saying all these, like, things
that you shouldn't say to a child.

Thank you very much
and congratulations.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

I was... I was 17.

17.

As a 14-year-old girl
with a little...

...with a little crush on him.

I was very excited
to see Jared Leto.

I think that was the first time
I ever met a celebrity.

"Oh, my God. Do you know
who that is?! That's Jared Leto!"

PAPARAZZI CLAMOUR

He had invited me to his house.

Asked me to come meet him
in his hotel.

"Jared Leto cordially invites you
to a celebration."

Sending an invite out
to a lot of models.

I ran to the autograph table.

You know, most young girls saw him
very much as a heart-throb.

Wait, but...

...this is problematic.

There's a whole population
who don't know who he truly is.

You really just chose to take
your power and abuse it.

Alarms started going off in my head.

"This is not what I came here for."

"By the time I get back, I would
like your clothes to be off."

"It doesn't matter
what your age is.

"It doesn't matter
if you're underage."

And that's when I realised
he was in his early 30s.

He was 34.

He was 42 at the time.

And then he just goes,

"If you're going to sleep here,

"you're going to wake up
with a dick in your ass."

People are like, "What did you hope
to accomplish with your book?"

Two things. I want to be proud of it
and I want to not get sued.

Yeah. Touch and go there
for a little while.

OK.

Mm-hm.

So, Jared Leto is an actor

at the very highest realms
of the industry.

PAPARAZZI CLAMOUR

He won an Oscar for his role

in Dallas Buyers Club,

in which he played a trans woman.

And the Oscar
goes to...

...Jared Leto,
Dallas Buyers Club.

CHEERING

That sealed his status

as a household name

and one of the power players
in Hollywood.

He started out

as a very well-known TV actor

in My So-Called Life.

His role, Jordan Catalano, was...

...the school dreamboat.

A generation of women -
and, I think, some men -

were mesmerised by those blue eyes.

He's unique, in that he's not only

a high-profile actor,

he's also an entrepreneur.

And he's an investor.

Uber, Airbnb, Spotify, Reddit...

I've always been entrepreneurial

ever since I sold dope as a kid.
INTERVIEWER CHUCKLES

Whoo!

He's associated with fashion houses,

and, also, he's a really

successful rock star,

with his band
Thirty Seconds To Mars.

♪ Take no more

♪ Take no more... ♪

CHEERING

I think the first time
I ever came across Jared Leto

was watching Requiem For A Dream

when I was a teenager.

I always thought you were
the most beautiful girl I ever seen.

Really?

I thought he was incredible.

It was a film
that definitely stayed with me.

Air Mail is a digital weekly
based in New York.

It does a bit of everything.

True crime,

arts and culture.

I've also done investigative work.

I follow this DJ called Allie Teilz,
on Instagram.

In April 2025,

she posted, on her Instagram,

a screenshot of a Facebook status

she'd posted originally in 2012.

She went on to say
that she was underage,

she was 17 at the time,

and that he was aware of her age.

She has a big following.

She has over 100,000 followers.

She started getting
a lot of responses

from women who'd had allegedly
similar experiences with Jared,

which she was then posting.

I was refreshing her story
every few hours,

and I was quite stunned by the
wealth of responses that she got.

The experiences ranged
from inappropriate behaviour

to assault.

It captured my attention and
I started looking into the story.

My name is Jessica Sartenaer.

I'm a documentary producer
and journalist.

I've been making documentaries
for nearly ten years...

...often looking into
high-profile people.

We saw Allie's post
and the reaction.

This is NOT something you see
every day.

If all of this was true,

these were allegations
on a massive scale,

about a very big player
in Hollywood.

So, we immediately
started investigating.

I spoke to some of the women
who wrote in to Allie.

I managed to track them down.

I was putting down the phone

and I felt a little bit
sick to my stomach.

Among the allegations,
there was one woman,

she was 18 at the time.

She went over to his house
and he got naked

and grabbed her hand
and put it on his penis and said,

"I want you to spit on it."

I gathered all my research,

put together the story.

Ultimately, nine women contributed.

A lot of them were very scared,

which is why most of them requested
anonymity.

We did send a right to reply
to Leto and his team,

and they responded,

expressly denying every allegation.

The article went live.

It was pretty much picked up
worldwide.

The Guardian,

Italian national newspaper
Il Corriere della Sera.

Actor and musician Jared Leto

has been accused of sexual
misconduct and predatory behaviour.

Allegedly...
Allegedly likes very young girls,

teenage girls.

I saw it was reported that
Disney was holding crisis talks.

Um, he was meant to be playing
the lead in Tron: Ares.

I would like you to meet Ares,

the ultimate soldier.

I think the crisis talks were
surrounding the marketing campaign.

It was a big deal.

And I really thought, you know,
"This is going to...

"This is going to have
some real-life repercussions for...

"..for Jared."

When the Air Mail article came out,

this was the first time
that women had gone on the record,

alleging that they had
been sexually abused by Leto.

We watched and waited to see
what the consequences might be.

So, as the days went on...

...I was typing in
"Jared Leto allegations"

or just googling "Jared Leto".

I started seeing other news
about him that was unrelated...

And I saw the articles
surrounding the allegations

start to trickle off.

I thought, "Oh, wow."
Like, "That's it."

I was... I guess I was disappointed.

I was disappointed

the world didn't take
my victims' allegations seriously.

Within weeks, Leto started doing
publicity for Tron: Ares...

We're in London
and we're super excited.

It's been a great night so far.

...culminating in an appearance
on top of the Piccadilly Lights

as a promotional stunt for the film.

A really uncomfortable truth
about Hollywood is that

there's now calculations being made

that this is not a career-ender.

I think that calculation got made
with Jared Leto.

"We can quash it, we can ride it
out, we can deflect it

"and, six months from now, or,
you know, six minutes from now,

"another story will come
down the pike

"and suck up all the oxygen
in the room."

We were still working on our
investigation in the background.

40 women had written into Allie.

Nine women had gone on the record
with Air Mail.

So we were really asking ourselves,

how widespread was this...

...and how long has it
been going on for?

We started digging deeper...

...and that's when we found Etta.

The first email,

he just sent an image
of the invitation.

"Jared Leto cordially invites you
to a celebration."

I said, "I thank you for the invite,
but I couldn't make it,

"even though I'm sure
it would have been fun."

And he responded, "Text me,"

and gave me his number.

I didn't even consider
how weird it was

to be invited by a 42-year-old man,
at 16, to a party.

I know, for sure, if not then,

I did tell him a couple days
later when we were texting.

We texted for a couple days
and then...

Then, he would start mostly calling.

PHONE VIBRATES

He never would call me
without making it a private number.

I think he did his best
to make sure there was no proof.

Like, at first, it was, like,
you know,

"Who did you sign with?

"Oh, how did it go?"

But it quickly moved into, um...

"Oh, well, you're a virgin.
Do you have any kinks?

"Like, what are you interested in?

"Oh, can you squirt?"

Like, he seemed very interested
in squirting.

He did, at least once, mention
him and I having sex at some point.

Um, I remember feeling,
like, nervous.

A little anxious,

a little uncomfortable,

but, like, at the time,
I remember I had a really hard time,

like, saying "no" to things
or, like, putting boundaries up.

He asked me if he could give
my number to a friend of his.

I just remember him, you know,

telling me that
it was, like, a business thing.

And I was like, "Yeah, sure.
Whatever. That's fine."

This guy, he told me
his name was Christian,

he would call me a lot.

He wanted to...

...hire me to shoot porn.

And he was like, "You know, it
doesn't matter if you're underage.

"We'll work it out.

"Like, you know, we'll get
a really nice house in the hills.

"You know, we'll have,
like, six guys in the shower,

"and have them, like,
come all over you."

And because he would also call me
from a private number,

I wouldn't know, sometimes,
if it was going to be Jared or him.

They both were really obsessed

with mentioning the possibility
of squirting.

Both of them, yeah.

I think
it would not be that surprising

if that ended up being the truth,
you know?

And how old are you? You.

17. Come here.

Come here.

Give me a hug, first of all.

CHEERING

LAUGHTER

OK, you can let go now.

What's your name? Kate.

Kate. Where are you from?

LA. You're from LA?

"That's what I like
about high school girls."

LAUGHTER

"I keep getting older,
they just stay the same age.

"All right, all right, all right.

"All right, all right, all right."

There have been allegations
swirling around Leto for decades.

All the way back in 2005,

there was an article
in the New York Post

alleging that Leto was approaching

teen and underage girls
at a hotel in New York,

and texting them.

But what we were really surprised by

was just how many allegations
actually exist online.

I counted around 120 allegations

relating to highly concerning
behaviour

women said they had witnessed,

heard about
or experienced themselves,

and some of these allegations dated
right back to the early 2000s.

OK, well, down memory lane, right?

I have a few photos here of...

...back in that day,
when I was a little bit younger.

Oh, my gosh.
You guys remember pictures?!

Everything's digital now.

There's no such thing.

OK. This is definitely high school.

I recognise my high school
that I used to go to.

Oh, my gosh.
This is probably right around...

Like, right around the time
when I met him.

I look like such a baby.

Looking back on these pictures,
it's...

...it's so crazy to...

I mean, I look...
Yeah, I look so young.

I've always been this, like,
free spirit type of person.

And I still, actually,
to this day, one of those

"act first, think second", you know?

Just try things and then,
if it works out, great,

and if it doesn't,
then now you know.

In 2002, when I was 17,

I had this job at Planet Hollywood

in Las Vegas.

I worked in the mall.

A group of guys came in.

One of them looked familiar.

So, I said, "Oh, you look familiar.

And he was like, "Well,
what high school did you go to?"

And I said, "Oh, I went to..."
You know, this high school.

And he was like,
"Oh, no way. Me too."

His friends started laughing

and they were like,
"He didn't go to your high school."

They were like, "He's famous.

"This is Jared Leto."

They're coughing.

"He has this movie coming out
called Panic Room..."

Nobody's going to die, man!

Will you please have the balls
to follow through with something?

"..and we're in Vegas cos
we actually just started this band,

"called Thirty Seconds To Mars."

"Oh, cool." Like, "That's awesome.

"You know, you're famous."

I still didn't know who he was, right?

So you were saying,
all last night, you missed it.

So I was just showing them around

and taking them through the store,

and it was just, you know, like a...

...you know, like a fun, casual vibe.
That's when Jared Leto was like,

"Hey, like, you seem really cool."

You know,
"Can I get your phone number?"

Like,
"Would you like to hang out later?"

"Yeah." You know, I'm like,
"Oh, cool."

Like, he's a celebrity, right?
I'm 17.

This is a happy fucking day.

I think that was the first time
I ever met a celebrity.

And so I was going to meet up
with him after work,

and he asked me to come meet him
in his hotel.

It was really close to my work

and I pulled in,
and it was this dingy motel.

I didn't think much of it.

I just was like,
"Oh, he's still getting ready

"and we're going to meet up there

"and then we're going to go out
afterwards."

So I knocked on the door, went in...

...I sat on the bed and he was like,

"Hey, yeah, I'm just going to hop
in the shower real quick.

"Do you mind waiting?"

And I was like, "No, of course not."
Like, "Go finish getting ready."

Um...

Sorry. This is where it gets hard.

Oh, sorry. I've got to, like,
get myself together.

I was sitting on the bed waiting
for him to get ready and...

...and he called me

and he was like,
"Hey, like, come in here

"so we can talk
while I'm, you know, in the shower."

And so I went into the bathroom.

I don't think
there was many words exchanged.

And when he opened
the shower curtain...

...he started kissing me.

Uh, and then he grabbed my hand.

I don't even know
how to say this part,

but he grabbed my hand and he...

...I guess, started, like,
touching himself with my hand -

like, using my hand to, I guess,
masturbate himself with my hand.

Um...

...and, um...

...alarms started going off
in my head, like,

"What are you doing here?"

Like, "This is not
what you came here for."

And in that moment, I...

...I definitely realised
that I was not in a great situation.

You know,
I'm alone in this room and...

Like, I didn't know
what was going to happen, right?

I pulled away and I was like,
"OK, I'm going to go."

He got out, put a towel on.

There's a weird thing
that I-I always remembered.

He looked... He went outside
and I remember he, like,

specifically, like, looked
to the left and looked...

Almost, like, seeing
if there was anybody around...

...before he let me out of the room.

We didn't... We didn't have internet
in our hands, right?

And I was at work.

I got off work.

I met up with him.

And so I didn't know anything
about him till

after everything, when I went home,

and then I looked him up on...
like, a computer, you know?

And that's when I realised
he was in his early 30s.

You know, I'm in my 40s now...

...and...

...my whole life...

...I had viewed this event as...

...I was a stupid girl...

...that did something stupid,
did something dumb...

...and so this bad thing happened.

But of course it did, because...

...I did something dumb and so...

...it's on me.

I don't think
I ever, till recently, ever...

...blamed him.

I always blamed me.

In 2005, Thirty Seconds To Mars
release an album

called A Beautiful Lie,

and on that album was a song called

The Kill,

which was incredibly popular...

♪ Come break me down

♪ Bury me, bury me

♪ I am finished with...

♪ You... ♪

♪ Look in my eyes

♪ You're...
Killin' me, killin' me

♪ I am finished with you! ♪

...and it really saw
their entry into the mainstream.

How are you doing, New York City?

CHEERING

Suddenly, Leto had access
to this huge, devoted fan base,

many of whom were
young teenage girls.

As a teenager, I was very much so
a punk, Goth kid.

I had coloured hair,
I wore fishnets,

I wore black lipstick,
I wore black nail polish.

The scene was so supportive.

It was just a sense of...
like a community.

The first time I ever heard
Thirty Seconds To Mars

was on the radio,
and I was instantly hooked.

I was literally listening
to The Kill on repeat.

I saw Thirty Seconds To Mars
at the 99X X-Mas Ball.

My mom got me tickets.

The concert was absolutely amazing.

Oh, I was in heaven
when I saw Jared Leto onstage.

As a 14-year-old girl
with a little...

...with a little crush on him.

So, Thirty Seconds To Mars
gets offstage.

CHEERING

They were allowing people
to get autographs and meet them.

I walked up to Jared Leto,

told him, "I'm a huge fan,"

and I held my shirt out
for him to sign,

hopefully on an arm
or maybe on the belly

and, instead, he chose to sign
my shirt across my breasts.

And he told me,
"You have a nice rack."

And in that timeframe,

he asked his bodyguard to go ahead
and take me backstage.

He didn't even ask me
if I wanted to go backstage.

He literally looked at his security
guard and said,

"Take her... take her back."

I was very short.

I had braces.

It was very obvious
that I was a teenager.

My mother,
who was standing next to me,

was like, "That's my daughter.

"She's fucking 14."

And he looked at her and said,

"It's still a nice rack."

We didn't get to stay and finish
the concert.

My mom took me home.

This was not a pleasant experience

to have to go through.

You should not be touching my
breasts in any way, shape or form.

I was 14,

and that was supposed to be
a sense of community for me.

Things like that aren't supposed
to happen at metal shows.

I'm going to cry.

Things like that aren't supposed
to happen when you...

...are supposed to be enjoying
yourself.

Thank you.

It really altered my life
in a real way.

I stopped going to concerts
altogether.

I stopped listening
to that kind of music.

I really felt like I had been
taken advantage of.

What turns me on?

I would like to answer that
by asking a question.

What doesn't turn me on?

We wanted to speak to insiders
from the mid-2000s.

So, people who had spent time
with Leto,

who had worked with him
in the context of his band.

So, we contacted
hundreds of people -

producers, crew members,
tour staff, even bandmates...

...and it was really, really hard
getting people to talk to us.

A lot of them were scared
to speak out.

Many had signed NDAs.

But then, eventually,
we found Simon.

I think that's him.

Hi, Simon. Hi.

Jessica. Thank you so much
for coming all this way.

OK, let me introduce you to...
the lurkers over here.

Speaking to me anonymously -

is that for fear of repercussions?

I don't want to be notable in this
at all, but...

...I do want to do my part.

Would I want to tell my daughter...

...that I didn't stand up
for what was right

when I got an opportunity
to say something?

Let's talk about
Thirty Seconds To Mars.

I worked with the band
for about a decade.

Jared was generally very focused

and hard-working. Very demanding.

He had a clear vision
of what he wanted.

During one period of time,

they'd set up their recording
equipment in a spare room

in the house, with just a desk

and a few chairs,

a microphone,

a couple of packing blankets.

He would be texting with girls.

There would probably,
typically on a given day,

be about two girls
that might stop by.

It wasn't uncommon
that he would go let them in,

sort of point to a chair
for them to sit down,

and possibly ignore them
for about 10, 15 minutes.

He might make a sort of rude remark.

Maybe it might be,
"You're a dirty girl, aren't you?"

The feeling...

...was he was
trying to assert control,

trying to assert a sense of power.

There was one particular instance
that I clearly remember,

where a girl had to be dropped off
by her parents.

This particular girl
was very young-looking, and...

...Jared would have been
in his early 30s.

They took off to the bedroom.

When they returned,
and she wanted a photo with him

and she tried to give him
a kiss on the cheek,

he stopped her...

...and wanted to make sure
that the photo looked like

a sort of spontaneous
platonic meeting.

At that point, she had to contact
her parents to come pick her up.

Probably only an hour had gone by.

She just kind of sat there.

The feeling in the air,

it felt like shame
and embarrassment.

I just remember being really moved
by it.

So what did you think

when the allegations started
to surface last year?

I remember reading the articles

and then coming across a video

that a young woman had made,
speaking of her time with Jared.

I remember her reciting some of
the things Jared would say to her.

There was no question about it,

she wasn't making it up.

This is his language.

Could you show me the video
you're talking about?

I first met him when I had

just turned 17 and he was 33.

I met him after
a Thirty Seconds To Mars concert.

He had started to move
from just, like, flirting,

to saying things
of a more sexual nature.

He literally started calling me
Lolita,

telling me he was old enough
to be my father.

He knew I was 17.

He... did various things,
like kiss my neck,

touch my chest, take my hand,
put it on top of his pants.

One time I was backstage with him,

he grabbed my face
and made me promise

that I wasn't going to tell anyone.

Did those behaviours that she's
describing feel familiar to you?

It's uncanny, the things she says
about how he would behave with her.

It's upsetting. It's disturbing.

It completely brings back memories
of what I witnessed.

His band was having a concert.

I was with another girl.

And we were backstage.

I was 17.

It wasn't actually Jared Leto
who approached me.

He had sent an acquaintance of his,
probably in his 40s.

He was a comedian.
And he told me, you know,

"Jared's seen you
from where he is over there,

"and he was interested
in getting your number."

I didn't actually meet him
at that venue at that time.

That would come later.

You know, most young girls saw him
very much as a heart-throb.

You know, very handsome,
great features.

Professionally, very good at what
he did as an actor, as a singer.

He was a very magnetic person.

At that age,
I had just been coming out of

a really awkward time
in adolescence.

I had always been very, very shy.
Painfully shy.

I'd blush a lot,
I'd trip over my words.

It was very validating

that someone like him would be
interested in me at all.

So, sometime after that concert,

there had been some text exchanges.

He had invited me to meet him at
a place called the Chateau Marmont,

which is right there
in the main area of Hollywood.

I had a friend with me at the time,
so he said,

"Go ahead and bring her."

It's a very kind of secluded,
upscale place where they cater to

a lot of A-list celebrities,

so it was intimidating at first
going in there.

He was at a table with friends.

He kind of waved us over,
we sat down, my friend and I,

and just having some general banter
about things.

We had kind of drifted
into the realm to talk about

the age of consent.

I had mentioned to him
that my dad was in law enforcement,

that I knew with certainty
that, here in California,

the age of consent is 18.

He just kind of shrugged it off like
it wasn't a huge concern for him.

And he knew at that point
that you were 17?

Oh, yes. He did know. Yeah.

So, after that, he had told me

that they were
about to head back to his house.

So, we'd walked in the door

and I remember immediately,
off to the side,

there were these two really distinct
statues from the Clockwork Orange.

And he had them...
They were two females,

and he had them arranged
in, like, a very sexual position.

He had shown us
where his bedroom was.

We had gone in,
we were sitting on the bed with him.

And so, he suggested to my friend,

"You can wait in the computer room
while her and I hang out."

That is when things had turned
sexual,

when my friend was
in the other room.

So there was probably, I would say,

about three or four times
that I had been to his residence.

There was one time in particular
where I had gone over,

I let him know that I was there.

He opened the door
and he had told me

that he was in the middle
of some sort of interview.

So he let me in the house...

...I went down the hallway
into his bedroom

and he had made a comment of,

"By the time I get back, I would
like your clothes to be off."

So, he had gone out,
finished the interview.

He'd come back in the room
and he said,

when he noticed
that I was undressed,

something to the effect
of, "Brave little girl."

It was this theme that he kind of

stuck with, wanting to see me
as a younger girl.

He told me,
"I would like you to call me Daddy,"

and it was either, "and pretend to
be A little girl or MY little girl."

I had so little exposure
to anything sexual, really,

at that time as a teenager.

Was this what, you know, is expected

when you're intimate
with somebody older?

Is this what they say,
is this what they do?

Just wondering if it was normal.

As time went on,
I realised more and more

how scary that really was,

being that age and being
so naive and vulnerable.

There is no well-adjusted man
in his 30s...

...who's going to look at a teenager
and think,

you know,
"Wow, she would be a great partner."

The only reason to approach somebody
like that

is because of how easily manipulated
they are.

Let's talk about the lyrics.

You can probably guess
which lyrics I'm going

to pick out of Up In The Air.
I'll be...

Oh, I don't know. Surprise me.

"I'll wrap my hands around your neck
so tight

"with love, love, love."

Yeah. Quite erotic. Is it?

Um, tell us a little bit more...

It's funny that you would take it
that way.

Well, tell us what the song's about,
if that's not what it is.

Well, I think -
what is it they say? -

um, everything is about sex

except for sex.

Sex is about power.

In the late 2000s,
Jared actually took a break

from acting to focus on his band,
Thirty Seconds To Mars.

They were really gaining
a massive fanbase across Europe.

It's from this period that
we noticed a lot of videos online

of Leto inviting young girls
up onstage.

Oh, shit, that's so crazy.

♪ And the story goes... ♪

AUDIENCE SINGS

Hello?
Oh, hi, Brad.

It's Jessica from the BBC.
How are you doing?

I'm good. How are you? I'm good.

Brad toured with Thirty Seconds
To Mars around this time,

and he agreed to speak with me

about his experience
of working with Leto.

At the time I was working for them,

they were a very big band, you know,

uh, headlining arenas in lots
of different countries.

What was the atmosphere like
on tour?

Very tense.

I've been on the road
since I was a teenager

and Jared is one of the worst people

I've ever worked for,
in any way, shape or form.

Nice to see you.

Give me a hug.
It's been a long time.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Good to see your face.

We've met before.

Yeah, I remember, of course.
How could I forget?

CROWD SCREAMS

How could I ever forget?

No. I'm joking, I'm joking.

Of course I remember you.
You're beautiful.

Did anyone on the crew feel
uncomfortable about

the way Jared was interacting
with female fans?

No-one enjoyed watching that
or being involved in that,

if he ever asked anyone to get

a phone number
or anything like that.

I think everyone thought
that the age gap was way too big.

And what sort of age range
were these girls, do you think?

Teens.

Yeah, you with the pink hair.
Come over here. With the pink hair.

Pink hair, pink hair,
pink hair, pink hair.

Pink. Pink. Pink hair.

♪ Do-do-do, I

♪ Fell apart

♪ But got back up again, yeah... ♪

INAUDIBLE

Would he ever ask for any
of the fans to be brought backstage?

I remember
at least one or two incidents

of girls coming onstage
for the final song

and... crew members being
instructed to,

you know, grab those girls

and invite them to come backstage
after the show.

And he would talk to them
in his dressing room

and... I couldn't tell you
what happened from there.

Was there anything else

crew members were asked to do
that made them feel uncomfortable?

Uh, whenever they would play cities

that had a lot of modelling
agencies, like Milan

or Berlin, Paris etc,

crew members were instructed
to call up the modelling agencies

and offer free tickets
for the female models.

They would give all of the models

VIP passes and they would have
a room backstage for them.

I know that people involved in that

did not particularly enjoy
having to do that,

because it was all...
Well, I mean,

calling up a modelling agency
and saying, "We only want

"your female models," is
a little bit uncomfortable.

And who requested this?

That was direct from Jared.

I moved to London in 2013.

I went to Elite Models.

There was a manager from my agency

who told me that
Thirty Seconds To Mars had put out

an invitation that we could go
and see the show

and then there was also
a VIP meet-up afterwards

that we could go to.

The concert was at the O2.

It was a good concert, I remember.

Somehow the assistant got to me
and asked if I wanted to go

to an afterparty
at Shoreditch House.

And I remember thinking to myself,
"I've never been there.

"I want to go.
I want to see what it is."

So we were eight people,
mostly just women, and then Jared.

I remember going to the bathroom
and when I came out,

he was standing, like,
in the corridor.

He says something and it gets me
to say, "Do you know how old I am?"

And then he... says, "No,"

and then I lie and I say, "I'm 17."

At the time, I'm 19.

I just remember
that I felt the need to say

that I'm younger than I am.

He said, "Age is just a number

"and, anyway, we're in Europe."

I remember speaking to the
assistant, who was saying

that there was the next place
to go to.

It was in a hotel.

I was a bit drunk
and my phone was dying.

So I was saying,
"But I don't know where it is.

"How am I going to get there?"

She kept, like, pushing and saying,
"It's really easy.

"It's right over there."

The assistant is a woman,
so I trusted her.

I get into the hotel room.

It's really dark.

And then I see that it's just him.

"Weren't there supposed to be
other people?"

And I think he just says,
"No, it's just you and I."

Then I'm sat there and saying,
"OK, well, my phone is dying,

"so I can't really get home
from here."

So I ask him
if he has a phone charger.

"No, I don't."

"OK.
I also don't have any cash left.

"Could I get some cash
to get a cab home?"

"No, I don't have any cash."

I was sat on a chaise longue
kind of thing.

So I was kind of like, thinking to
myself, "Could I just sleep here?"

I ask him,
"Can I just sleep here, then?"

And then he just goes,

"If you're going to sleep here,

"you're going to wake up
with a dick in your ass."

And I think I ask him, like,
"What did you say?"

And he says this a few times.
"If you're going to sleep here,

"you're going to wake up
with a dick in your ass."

At that point, I was like,
"I'm not safe here.

"OK, I need to get out."

I went to the bathroom first,

and then, from there,
I was closer to the door.

When I got out of the hotel,
I remember being really angry.

I was angry at myself
for going into the hotel room.

I came home at, I think,
six in the morning.

I texted my then best friend.

And she was saying,
"He was threatening sexual assault.

"You should report him."

And in my head, I was like, "Nah.

"I put myself in that situation.

"He didn't touch me.
It was probably a misunderstanding.

"I was probably the only one."

But I'm probably not the only one.

And it's probably been a lot worse.
Yeah.

Do you feel like you were tricked
into going to that hotel?

Throughout this whole night,

I told the assistant all the reasons

why I shouldn't go
to the next place.

And every time that I had an excuse
for not going,

I was getting nudged to go further.

The assistant knew what to say
to lure me into his hotel room.

It seemed that it was planned out.

"Never have I ever hooked up
with a fan on tour."

Oh! Really? Yeah. Yeah.

CHEERING

How did staff feel about having

to procure women for Jared
in this way?

I don't think anyone
liked being involved,

but it's also the kind of camp
where I think everyone

is slightly fearful for their job

and you don't want to say no
to anything.

He's not really someone
you want to fuck with.

He had a lot of people around

that just were constantly jumping
through hoops

for him and doing anything
he demanded.

There's sort of a secret rule

that you don't talk about what the
creative talent does in Hollywood.

There's a general sense
of just turning a blind eye.

Not a single person spoke up.

There were not only just men
of his age, but also women.

These dozens of people

who were travelling with him,
touring with him.

Not a single one said anything

to myself about looking out for him
or being concerned

about how young I looked
hanging around him.

Nobody said anything.

An enormous part of everything

that we're talking about is money.

In Hollywood, in music,

there's a superstructure.

There's layers
and layers of people around

the individual who are incentivised
to say and do nothing -

assistants, manager, lawyer...

...and an unfortunate reality
with these kinds of stories is

that it is not uncommon
for sources to be silenced.

Everyone has a vested interest
in all of this going away.

Um, it's about two years
after I met him,

I got a call from Jared.

From what I recall,

he said his lawyer was concerned
about his relationships with women.

Uh, he kind of, like, chuckled,

laughed at that part
and said that he...

...uh, that his lawyer wants to have
all the women in his life sign NDAs.

I mean, I didn't feel comfortable
with it, like, right away,

but I was willing to, like,
look at it.

It didn't just cover, like,
present and future.

It covered things that I would have
said in the past.

"Commencing on the date on which
my association with you began,

"I hereby acknowledge and agree
that a confidential

"relationship exists
between you and me."

It didn't seem right being able
to be held liable

for something that I had done
previously,

before I even knew
I wasn't allowed to speak about him.

It seemed like a really great way
to get sued.

I never signed it.

I made an excuse the first time, and
then just didn't respond after that.

How has it gotten this far

without this becoming
a larger scandal?

People knew about it in Los Angeles
and in Hollywood.

Is it people just not wanting

to believe the allegations
about him?

Is it because they believe
what he's accused of isn't that bad?

Is it just because they've met him

and think he's charming
and fun and cool?

Frankly, honestly, I don't get it.

Three women, after they spoke to me
for my article,

asked me to retract their testimony

because they were pursuing
legal action against him.

I'm not sure what came
of the legal action.

I know that there's been no kind of
case in the public domain thus far.

It's been a year since
the Air Mail article was published,

and since then,
Leto has been in two major movies.

Most recently, he played Skeletor
in Masters Of The Universe.

Thirty Seconds To Mars
have announced

that they're going on tour in 2027.

So we have no idea what the impact
of our investigation

is going to be because, honestly,
it seems Leto's career

has been unaffected
by previous allegations.

Seeing him continue
to do whatever he wants to do

and get accolades for it
is pretty infuriating,

because he's left a trail

of emotional destruction
for a lot of young women.

It makes me lose faith because,
like,

why... why are you supporting a man
like that?

How can you support a man like that?

So do you think he thought
that he'd get away with it?

Well, he has. Right?
He HAS gotten away with it.

This was 25 years ago.

Um... apparently he's been doing it.

Apparently people know about it.

So, by all means,
I think he has gotten away with it.