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We interrupt the regular program schedule
to bring you President Nixon State of the
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Union Message from the Capitol in
Washington, D.C.
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I will also ask for an appropriation of an
extra 100 million dollars to launch an
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intensive campaign to find a
cure for cancer and I will ask
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later for whatever additional
funds can effectively be used.
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The time has come in America when the same
kind of concentrated effort that split the
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atom and took man to the moon should be
turned toward conquering this dread disease.
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With 100 words, Richard Nixon effectively
declares war on cancer.
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A national cancer program is birthed.
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Its director will report to the president
himself and it has appropriated $1.
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6 billion for its first
three years alone.
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The American Cancer Society is
instrumental in getting the bill passed
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and launches its own star-studded
campaign.
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Send a check to the American Cancer
Society.
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It's great to be alive.
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With a massive coordinated effort,
the United States, which little more than
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two years earlier had put
a man on the moon, would
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someday soon conquer the
most feared disease here at home.
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So Thomas has been
here for two weeks, going
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on three weeks now,
and he's doing very well.
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Our home is in Tucson, and when Donna and
I made the decision that there was going
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to be no radiation or chemo used on Thomas,
the doctor decided to start handiness.
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As a result, he told our attorney that
because we had chosen that to speak to him
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directly enough to go with convention
therapy, that it left him no choice but to
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file charges against us with child
protective services for medical and
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neglect, child abuse and child neglect,
which he did.
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It is the consent form to do radiation
that we did at the University Medical
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Center, and when we initially did it,
the doctor filled everything out,
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and then he went on to explain that
possible side effects would be hair loss,
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skin redness, fatigue, nausea,
vomiting and loose BMs.
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And that's where he stopped.
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He said, go ahead and sign it.
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And I thought, well,
gosh, if that's all we're
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dealing with, maybe it's
not as bad as I thought.
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So I had signed it and he left the room.
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About ten minutes later, he came back and
said, oh, by the way, dad, I forgot.
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He took it out of my hand and put it with
the others and put the carbons back.
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He'll also have fluid in the middle ear,
hearing loss, hypothyroidism, spinal
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growth deficit, possible loss of IQ,
memory loss, secondary tumors,
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hypopotuitarism, low level
hormones, and radiation
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necrosis, which is where
the brain turns hard.
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And that's when I knew we were in trouble.
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If your child was dying of cancer,
wouldn't you want the best treatment
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available, I know why my husband was put
to six cycles of chemotherapy and we were
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told up front, it's probably we have no
effect.
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The biggest cover up in the cancer
industry is that the industry is based on
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wealth, not health.
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In this matter of life and
death, some say the federal
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government is making
matters worse, much worse.
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And here you are pleading for
the life of a person and they're
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talking about the integrity
of their bureaucratic process.
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The couple's battle for
alternative treatment is at the
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center of a national debate
over medical freedom of choice.
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These guys are part of a
club and believe me, that club
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has nothing to do with
protecting the American people.
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Why are people terrified when they hear
the word cancer?
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Because they know it doesn't work.
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They know that what
we're doing in this
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country and in the
western world doesn't work.
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The image of cancer as a fearful disease
is a well-deserved image, I think,
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in the American mind.
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And it's never been surpassed.
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It's always been number
one in terms of the disease
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that the people in this
country fear the most.
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The word strikes terror in people's
hearts.
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And we know from our current situation
that when people are terrorized,
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when they're afraid, then they'll do
almost anything to survive.
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September of 99, Thomas was experiencing
flu-like symptoms.
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And after about three weeks, I had said to
Donna, this doesn't make sense.
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So I had called my
personal physician and she
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took a look in one of
his eyes with a flashlight.
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And she said he needs to see his doctor
right now.
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Donna comes out and screams my name and
then drops to the ground.
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She said her boy is time.
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Since the war on cancer began in 1971,
more than 14,800,000 Americans have died
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from some form of the disease.
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1,500 die every day.
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That's 565,000 men, women, and children in
2009 alone.
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More people will die from cancer in this
country in the next three years than all
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the American soldiers who died fighting
since the American Revolution.
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From 1920 to the present
time, we have made little
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or no progress in the
treatment of adult cancers.
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So a person who gets prostate
cancer or breast cancer today
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will live as long as a person
who got it in 1920, no big change.
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With all the radiation therapy that we
began in the 10s and 20s, combination
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chemotherapy in the 60s, immunotherapy
that began in the 70s, pet scans,
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MRI scans, you name it, billions and
billions and billions of research dollars
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that we've thrown into this whole area of
cancer research and treatment,
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little or no significant progress in the
treatment of adult cancers.
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In the early 1900s, pneumonia was the
number one cause of death.
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People were terrified of pneumonia, because
even though some survived, most did not.
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Now, when we have cancers, the number one
cause of death, because we treat pneumonia
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now successfully with antibiotics,
and no one's afraid of pneumonia.
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But with cancer, the treatment we have,
the majority, overwhelming majority die.
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Nothing we've done in a century has
substantially reduced the death rate of
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various cancers relative to the population
density.
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We are a total failure.
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The question is there are so many
different ways to pursue this,
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and no one knows what the right one is.
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So, we try lots of things, and any time
human beings try lots of things,
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a lot of them are not going to work,
but some of them will.
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And we've had some
successes, for example,
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testicular cancer, what
Lance Armstrong had.
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When I was training as a medical student
in an intern, that was uniformly fatal.
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Now, many of those men, are long term
survivors, so in certain cases,
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lymphoma is Hodgkin's disease,
testicular cancer.
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There have been major
breakthroughs that
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have made huge
differences to people's lives.
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Unfortunately, the more common cancers,
colon cancer, breast cancer, prostate
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cancer, lung cancer,
those cancers are not as
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susceptible to our
treatments at this point.
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Cancer itself is a very complex disease.
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There are more than
200 different types of
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diseases that all come
under the rubric cancer.
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Malignant, out of control,
cell growth, that's what cancer
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is, and there are many different
forms of it, unfortunately.
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Cancer, in its various forms, has
confounded humanity for centuries.
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An Egyptian papyrus from
1550 BC, describes cancer as
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a tumor against the gods,
for which there's no cure.
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Hippocrates, the father of Western
medicine, who lives in 400 BC,
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notices a tumor's nasty ability to spread
out as if it has tentacles and names the
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disease Carcanoma, the Greek word for
Crab.
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But he has no idea how to treat it.
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More than 2,000 years later in 1884,
William Holstead, a surgeon at Johns
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Hopkins, performs the first radical
mastectomy.
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But he thought that cancer cells just
spread by, sort of, marching in a straight
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line, and therefore, if you had a breast
cancer here, then you had to remove all
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the tissue around it, and
not thinking that cancer
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cells could get in the
blood circulate around.
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And the radical mastectomy
stuck around for 75 years,
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even though it was based
on biology that was defective.
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Dr. Holstead probably,
if he had lived long
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enough, would have
changed it, but he didn't.
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And then ushered in the paradigm that we
need to search and destroy cancer cells.
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So that's the paradigm that we've lived
with for over 100 years.
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Now, we add to that chemotherapy,
we add to that radiation therapy,
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with the intent of killing the cancer
cell.
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They kept telling me you're a prime
candidate, it's all contained,
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we'll just take out the lung, and,
you know, but I just kind of like my lung.
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I didn't want to lose it.
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In March 2007, 70-year-old Gloria La Barge
is diagnosed with mesophiliaoma,
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a form of cancer in which
malignant cells are found in the
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protective sac that covers most
of the body's internal organs.
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To the best of her knowledge, she has
never been exposed to asbestos,
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the most common cause of the disease,
prognosis for survival, eight to 18 months.
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After taking the lung out, they would do
chemo and radiation, just to make sure
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that they got it all, but they never know
whether they've gotten it all or not.
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That's the scary part, and you go through
all of that, and you never know.
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You absolutely never know.
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Conventional medicine doesn't know how to
treat cancer.
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They treat cancer at the symptoms of it.
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They don't treat the underlying condition
of it.
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Doctors, we'll look at the lump or the
bump, and they say there is the cancer.
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That's defined as the cancer.
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And so, then they will treat the lump or
the bump.
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They will do whatever they can to get it
to go away.
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They will burn it away, they will cut it
out, or they'll try to poison it.
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And if they can succeed in getting rid of
that lump or bump, then they say,
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aha, we got rid of the cancer.
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Thomas is laying in bed now because
they're done looking at him.
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And the doctor walks in and said, Mr. and
Mrs. Navarro, your son has a brain tumor.
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It's always fatal.
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We're going to be doing surgery tomorrow
morning, and turn around and let the room.
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On September 19, 1999, Thomas undergoes
brain surgery.
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The biopsy of this tumor leads to a
diagnosis of meduloblastoma cancer.
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Jim and Donna are told that without
immediate treatment, the condition will
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recur in nine months.
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Right away, I did not want to do
chemotherapy and radiation.
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I knew what would happen to Thomas.
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Once he had chemo and radiation,
his quality of life would be non-existent.
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I mean, with radiation alone, if you have
an average child with an average IQ of
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100, they lose 4 IQ points per year
accumulative.
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So, in five years, you have a mentally
handicapped child.
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And then you have all the other side
effects.
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Because as a radiation to the brain,
you have hypopotuitarism, hypothyroidism,
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spinal growth deficit, loss of hearing,
blindness.
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Why would you want to put
a four-year-old child through
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that, and then in five to ten
years have a recurrent cancer?
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So, I was dead against it.
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First specific evidence that radiation is
carcinogenic dates back to the 90s.
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Carcinomas of the hands and
other radiation injuries commonly
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afflicted the operators of
unshielded x-ray machines.
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The extreme penetrability
of hard x-rays and gamma
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rays makes them carcinogenic
to all parts of the body.
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Whatever the kind of radiation,
its effects depend upon the dosage,
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the length of exposure, and the individual
susceptibility to cancer.
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Well, you see, radiation is the treatment,
which is over 100 years old.
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And obviously, it was created at the time
when the knowledge of cancer was just
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minimal, which was microscopic.
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And obviously, radiation is causing a lot
of destruction in the body.
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Everybody knows about it.
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For majority of patients, the medical
profession thought that this was
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irrelevant because they realized that this
patient will be dead anyway in another two
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or three years, or maybe even a year
later, so this means that chronic adverse
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reaction for radiation didn't matter because
this patient would not live long enough.
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We had surgery and we
had radiotherapy, but we
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had very little beyond
that until about the 1960s.
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And it was realized around that time that
the reason why surgery and radiotherapy
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were not succeeding is
that there were cells that got
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out of the surgical field
and the radiation field.
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And circulated around, and eventually
these metastases killed patients,
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and so that you needed something else,
chemotherapy.
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Ironically, it's an event
in World War II that gives
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rise to the premier
weapon in the war on cancer.
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On December 2, 1943, the German Luftwaffe
launched a devastating air raid on the
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Allied Navy's stationed in Baudi,
Italy.
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Among the U.S.
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vessels destroyed is
the John Harvey, which
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carries a secret cargo of
2,000 mustard gas bombs.
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Several hundred of the attack survivors
are exposed to the poison gas,
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and what doctors discover in treating them
is startling.
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The blood counts just disappeared and they
died from bone marrow failure,
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and lymph nodes in all the tops you
couldn't even find them.
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And so he thought that maybe these would
work against cancers of those organs led
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to the development of nitrogen mustard.
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The first trials to see whether this would
work were done, of course, in animals.
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Dr. Gilman, who was really one of the
founders of toxicology and pharmacology,
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selected this one mouse that had a huge
tumor, and injected it with poison gas
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equivalent, and saw
that the tumor shrank,
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and the mouse was able
to move and look party.
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Then they stopped giving it the poison
gas, and the tumor came back.
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They gave the poison gas again,
and the mouse recovered again,
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and they thought this is amazing.
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Now, in fact, he reports in his memoirs
that, subsequently, they did the same work
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with other mice, and they never got as
good a result.
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So if they'd picked the wrong mouse in the
first place, we might never have been
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embarked on using chemotherapy in this
way.
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In the late 1960s, a team led by Vincent
de Vida pioneers the use of combination
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chemotherapies to successfully treat
Hodgkin's disease.
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Similar treatments are
used to dramatically reduce
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the mortality of certain
childhood leukemias.
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When that happened, the people who were
health advocates thought that we had
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reached a point where some massive effort
would now allow us to go over the top and
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cure the majority of patients with cancer.
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We would not want to raise false hopes by
simply the signing of an act.
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But we can say this, that for those who
have cancer and who are looking for
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success in this field, they at least can
have the assurance that everything that
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can be done by government, everything that
can be done by voluntary agencies,
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in this great, powerful, rich country,
now will be done.
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And so, the war on cancer begins,
and with it comes an explosion in the use
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of chemotherapy.
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Overwhelming evidence of a new weapon
against the cancer, finding chemotherapy
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with radiation, increases survival by as
much as 50%.
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Billy's drug alimpeda, when taken with
chemo, may extend the lives.
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Tamoxifen, newly approved by the FDA, to
reduce breast cancer risk by as much as 50%.
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When I was a drug chemist, one of my first
jobs was to design a Tamoxifen derivative.
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Any time you have to design
a derivative of an existing
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drug, that means there's
something wrong with the drug.
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And what we found in the lab was that
Tamoxifen was actually causing cancer.
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The chemist that I was working with,
my superiors, etc., just said,
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you know, it's a billion-dollar industry,
and Tamoxifen is not coming off the market.
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And if we can design a
safer derivative, great, but if
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we can't, Tamoxifen is going
to remain on the market.
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Multiple studies in the 1990s show that
while Tamoxifen reduces the incidence of
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breast cancer, it more than doubles the
occurrence of uterine cancer.
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Doctors often tell women, well,
even if you get uterine cancer,
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we'll be on top of it, and that just
requires a simple little hysterectomy anyway.
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But it's only used for five years.
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Why?
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And that's because after five years,
the risk increases of developing breast
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cancer caused by the Tamoxifen.
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Tamoxifen has generated more than $6
billion in sales for its maker,
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AstraZeneca, and is part of an industry
worth some $70 billion a year.
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One shot is $7,500, and a pill is one
pill, $300.
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The stem cell transplant
went through, combined with
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the radiation, combined
with all the chemotherapy.
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Prior to that, we understand was over a
million dollars.
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Ray Lamy is diagnosed with bladder cancer
in 1980 at the age of 36.
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Since then, he has suffered through
battles with non-Hutchkins lymphoma,
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Indolemphoma, and now aggressive lymphoma.
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I just read in the paper the other day,
the average cancer patient between the
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time they're diagnosed and the time that
they die is $350,000 in medical expenses.
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So that's big business, and it is big
business.
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Heavy trading today in the biopharma
sector, after thousands of stock moving
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and potentially treatment changing,
cancer drug studies came out overnight.
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Bristol wants Imclone primarily for its
blockbuster cancer drug, Herbitux,
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which racked up nearly $425 million in
sales in the last quarter.
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Our Cancer Center was the first in the
region to offer no valley-shaped beam
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robotic radiation therapy.
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They're also testing
this drug in combination
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with other cancer drugs
for other tumors as well.
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So it's about expanding
the use of Herbitux to make
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it an even bigger
blockbuster than it already is.
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You have doctors spending three years
learning how to do chemotherapy radiation.
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You have special radio oncology.
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You have cancer surgeons.
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You have cancer oncology.
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So you have this entire industry built on
the paradigm of purging the body.
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Even though we find
that that doesn't work, that
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industry is not going to
just pack up and go away.
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Once we knew what the oncologists and the
radiologists wanted, the treatment that
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they wanted for Thomas,
we sat down and we made
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the decision that we
were not going to do that.
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And then, of course, we had opposition
with the doctors.
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Right away, we were medical neglect.
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And it's like we're not neglecting our
child.
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We just want the best for our child.
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You know that this poison they're putting
in you can cause other tumors,
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can cause other cancers.
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And what is it doing to your body?
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Your body is taking your beating.
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Very difficult.
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The first time I got chemotherapy.
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It's hard.
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It's hard.
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We are suffering now from the fact that we
started out on the wrong foot,
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we stayed on the wrong foot for 100 years,
and we are paying the price.
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Chemotherapy and radiation therapy are not
specific.
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They kill anything in its way.
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The reason why people lose their hair,
the reason why people get nauseated and
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vomit is because chemotherapy kills any
actively dividing cell.
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So irrespective of normal or not.
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And if you think of it, it's like going in
and doing an aerate, dropping bombs on a
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village to get rid of a pocket of rebels
that are housed in a small area.
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If you contract almost any cancer,
you're likely to die at about the same
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time, whether you take chemo agents or
not.
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Now, there are some exceptions,
but by and large, that is the rule.
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And despite that, the FDA, the oncologists
in the world, cancer societies,
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all favor, reliance upon this treatment
modality that's brutal.
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And then they die at roughly the same time
they would have had they done nothing,
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and they would have felt a lot better
having done nothing.
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One day I was actually at work,
having lunch with a close colleague,
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and had he called me up, and said she was
very concerned.
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And I even joked that you had cancer
throughout your body.
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It turned out to be our worst nightmare,
come true, so she had the diagnosis in
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September, it was actually September 4th
of all four.
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After Patty Bernhard is diagnosed with
ovarian cancer, she undergoes chemotherapy
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every month for the next three years, and
would try every drug made available to her.
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Sis Platinum, Taxol, Taxoteer,
Gemsar.
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You know, when we would talk about the
treatments with our oncologist and the
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pain that the treatments actually caused
and the resulting sickness afterwards,
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there was no pain relief, no pain killer,
no mind altering substance that could even
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take away the pain.
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And what we went to our doctor and said,
you know, that, you know, this is
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unbelievable how much this hurts her.
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He said, well, I'm showering your organs
with poison, it's going to hurt.
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Well, the person on chemotherapy,
the idea is where we're going to kill the
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cancer cells just before
we kill the patient, and if
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we can draw that fine
line, then we're successful.
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So, in my view, this is primitive
medicine.
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I think someday people will look back at
this period of history, and they'll laugh
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at it just the way we look back at the way
they used to bleed patients.
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Whoa, you're on a full year!
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That one...
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The oncologist was like, well,
I can understand why you won't want to do
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radiation, but you have to do
chemotherapy.
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And he'd already told us chemotherapy
won't work.
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We're doing good.
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We're doing good.
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And we were telling we wanted to get a
second opinion, and they're like,
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it doesn't matter how many second opinions
you get, whether it's from California to
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New York, all the treatments are going to
be the same.
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We all run off the same game plan,
and it's like, that's ridiculous.
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There's got to be different therapies out
there.
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How's it going?
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Welcome to Houston.
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Thank you.
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So, if I was going, you look like growing
again.
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Pretty good?
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Yeah, very good.
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Looks like you maintain your weight very
well.
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Are you exercising?
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Yes.
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So, what are you doing?
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I work out two weights, two cardio.
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I see.
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I'm trying to go through some classes as
well.
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Everything's going very well.
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It's almost 20 years.
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It's been a long time.
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You don't have any science and symptoms of
the tumor?
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In 1985, four-year-old Paul
Michaels is diagnosed with
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a cancerous brain tumor
the size of a tennis ball.
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After surgery, Paul's
mother questions their
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doctor about the side
effects of radiation.
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We were sitting at a table like this,
and he said, regardless what you do,
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radiation or not, he's going to die.
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And he was four, but he wasn't stupid.
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He was a bright little four-year-old.
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And I thought, oh, please make him not
have heard that.
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And that night when I put him to bed,
Paul said to me, man, if I die,
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will you go with me?
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And I told him I would.
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And I think I would have.
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In 1987, Mary K.
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brings Paul to the Brzezinski clinic in
Houston, Texas.
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And six years later, the boy who was
supposed to be dead by age nine is
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cancer-free and the subject of a CBS news
special.
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That is the same tumor we just saw in that
report.
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It's a tiny dot.
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Yes.
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Do you have any question in your mind if
he saved your life?
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I know he did.
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Today, Paul Michaels
is a 29-year-old nursing
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student who is, by all
appearances, cured of cancer.
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He is one of thousands of patients who
have been treated by renowned Polish-born
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doctor, Stanislaw Brzezinski, who flees
communist Eastern Europe for the United
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States in 1970 and does
postdoctoral work at Baylor University
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before opening his own
cancer clinic in Houston, Texas.
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It is here that he pioneers
anti-neoplastons.
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These non-toxic peptides
and amino acid derivatives
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are synthesized to act
like molecular switches.
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Turning on tumor-suppressant
genes and turning
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off the oncogenes
responsible for cancer growth.
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In the early 1980s, under the watchful eye
of the FDA, Brzezinski and his treatment
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are confined to the state of Texas.
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And patients who are told that they have
no good options with traditional therapies
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flock to his clinic.
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A bone marrow transplant was prescribed for
me and it didn't offer me a cure at all.
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And in fact, they were
going to bring me as
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close to death as possible
and then rescue me.
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The doctor who pioneered this technique
said you will receive as much radiation as
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people that were less than one mile from
ground zero at Hiroshima.
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And Dr. Brzezinski said to me,
I think I can help you.
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Three weeks after going on the IV,
it disappeared.
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Totally gone.
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It was a miracle.
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And every CAT scan
that I had from starting
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Dr. Brzezinski's treatment
showed reduction.
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But in 1995, Mary Jo Siegel, Paul
Michaels, and hundreds of other patients
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being treated by Brzezinski, are told that
they may no longer be able to use
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anti-neoplastons.
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Well, one branch of the FDA is approving
Brzezinski for phase two clinical trials.
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Another is targeting him for prosecution.
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They were out to destroy him.
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They were serious about this.
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The US Attorney was going to put him away
for life, I mean, for 300 years.
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It just always amazed
me that the FDA could
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spend so much time
doing something like this.
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That's so... it's wrong.
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It's just morally wrong.
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FDA go away, FDA go away, FDA go away,
FDA go away, let us say another day.
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We met with senators.
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We met with, you know, different
legislative bodies, committees,
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subcommittees, commerce committee.
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Dr. Brzezinski saved my life.
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And for that, he is facing 300 years in a
federal penitentiary.
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All of them very supportive,
but all feeling very
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helpless about anything that
they could do with the FDA.
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I just remember what Paul said.
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Do you remember what you said?
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He said, I feel like I'm in
a war against cancer and
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the government is taking
away the only weapon I have.
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And it was like...
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There's virtually no one the FDA has to
account to.
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Congress performs an abysmal job of
oversight.
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They might hold hearings,
chastise the FDA commissioner, but
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there's no consequence for bad
acts by the FDA commissioner.
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The courts rarely second-guess the
judgment of the agency.
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They have broadly deferential standards of
review.
451
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:48,660
And the American people are left helpless.
452
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:50,420
You don't know their names.
453
00:31:50,794 --> 00:31:51,940
They don't run for election.
454
00:31:52,499 --> 00:31:54,360
They don't change with administrations.
455
00:31:54,650 --> 00:31:55,650
They're not Democrats.
456
00:31:55,825 --> 00:31:56,825
They're not Republicans.
457
00:31:57,269 --> 00:32:01,960
They are professional bureaucrats that
hold all the power.
458
00:32:03,779 --> 00:32:07,800
When the FDA begins in the late 19th
century as a division within the
459
00:32:07,801 --> 00:32:13,200
Department of Agriculture, it has no
regulatory power and is so small that its
460
00:32:13,299 --> 00:32:18,300
first chief, a flamboyant chemist named
Harvey Washington Wiley, sometimes takes
461
00:32:18,449 --> 00:32:23,180
drugs himself to see if they make him sick
and files reports with his findings.
462
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:26,260
The department's power grows steadily,
however.
463
00:32:26,629 --> 00:32:32,620
And by the 1930s, the freshly named Food
and Drug Administration is regulating the
464
00:32:32,621 --> 00:32:37,920
safety and marketing of all new drugs in
the U.S., many leading drug companies
465
00:32:38,219 --> 00:32:39,480
oppose the oversight.
466
00:32:40,424 --> 00:32:43,498
But finally, the drug
industry began to view
467
00:32:43,499 --> 00:32:46,180
regulation as a way
to reduce competition.
468
00:32:46,439 --> 00:32:48,060
But how did that transition take place?
469
00:32:48,609 --> 00:32:52,720
Well, it was a drug-calfolidamide that was
given to pregnant women in Europe and that
470
00:32:52,819 --> 00:32:55,780
resulted in rather extraordinary
deformities.
471
00:32:57,109 --> 00:33:03,640
This horrified the world and a opportunity
was seized at that point by the proponents
472
00:33:03,864 --> 00:33:05,240
of greater drug regulation.
473
00:33:05,939 --> 00:33:08,620
The fear of a thalidomide tragedy in the U
.S.
474
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:14,260
leads to the signing in 1962 of the
key-fawver Harris amendment and with it,
475
00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:17,240
the powers of the FDA are revolutionized.
476
00:33:17,689 --> 00:33:22,400
Now in addition to proving that their
products are safe, drug manufacturers are
477
00:33:22,699 --> 00:33:25,808
required to supply
to the FDA substantial
478
00:33:25,809 --> 00:33:29,020
evidence that the drugs
are effective as well.
479
00:33:29,649 --> 00:33:31,809
You read the Food and Drug Laws,
they're very flexible.
480
00:33:32,189 --> 00:33:34,720
The FDA's interpretation of those rules is
very rigid.
481
00:33:35,024 --> 00:33:39,720
As FDA started adopting regulations to
determine what constituted substantial
482
00:33:39,721 --> 00:33:44,580
evidence to approve a drug and started to
create all these Byzantine requirements.
483
00:33:45,479 --> 00:33:48,138
They were creating this
infrastructure to protect
484
00:33:48,139 --> 00:33:50,881
incumbent drug
companies from competition.
485
00:33:50,989 --> 00:33:55,200
The largest players had the money to pay
for the process, new entrants did not.
486
00:33:55,619 --> 00:33:59,580
This means that immediately small
pharmaceutical companies were eliminated.
487
00:34:00,284 --> 00:34:04,460
Inventors, likely, past their disappeared
completely because the doctors were
488
00:34:04,509 --> 00:34:07,100
severely punished by trying to use
something innovative.
489
00:34:07,349 --> 00:34:10,109
Aspring, for example, would not be
approved today by the Food and Drug
490
00:34:10,265 --> 00:34:13,100
Administration because it caused adenomas
and mice in the lungs.
491
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,460
I would like to loosen up on the
regulations and ways that allowed cancer
492
00:34:17,461 --> 00:34:19,984
centers, for example,
to develop drugs without
493
00:34:19,985 --> 00:34:22,199
having to go back to the
FDA every time you sneeze.
494
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:23,919
And what is the upshot of that?
495
00:34:24,030 --> 00:34:31,719
The upshot of that is it costs on average
about $1.6 billion for a single drug to be
496
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:33,120
approved in the United States.
497
00:34:33,670 --> 00:34:39,139
That game can only be played by the
largest monopolies on earth.
498
00:34:40,570 --> 00:34:47,239
So, if you invent a drug, you discover an
agent that has therapeutic utility and in
499
00:34:47,290 --> 00:34:52,300
the scientific community out there,
you can largely kiss that drug goodbye.
500
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:57,260
We have an extraordinary story for you of
a cancer doctor whose patients say he's
501
00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:00,380
performing miracles, but the government
wants to close him down.
502
00:35:00,580 --> 00:35:03,585
Friday, the Food and Drug
Administration raided the doctor's
503
00:35:03,586 --> 00:35:06,240
office, seizing patients'
files and other documents.
504
00:35:06,430 --> 00:35:09,664
Initially, I was not of interest
at the FDA because I think
505
00:35:09,665 --> 00:35:13,260
pharmaceutical companies
were not interested what I had.
506
00:35:13,785 --> 00:35:17,620
I think the biggest problem began when
pharmaceutical companies and the
507
00:35:17,621 --> 00:35:22,820
government realized that I have something
very valuable which can get rid of cancer
508
00:35:22,821 --> 00:35:28,380
in a number of people and the cancer which
was incurable by any other means.
509
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,239
The Texas State Attorney at
the behest of the FDA wants to
510
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:37,720
strip Brazinski of his medical
license and shut down his clinic.
511
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:46,140
We are here today because Dr. Brazinski
has for 16 years been unwilling or unable
512
00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:49,100
to comply with the requirements of the
law.
513
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:54,820
Testifying at the pretrial hearing is
Georgetown University Doctor Nicholas
514
00:35:55,020 --> 00:36:01,201
Petronas, who reviewed seven of Brazinski's
cases for the National Cancer Institute.
515
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,281
He testifies that
anti-neoplastons are the most
516
00:36:04,282 --> 00:36:08,500
effective treatment for
brain tumors I have ever seen.
517
00:36:09,930 --> 00:36:11,440
Spontan calls MM.
518
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:15,353
If my son goes off the
treatment, there is no doubt in
519
00:36:15,354 --> 00:36:18,280
my mind that his tumor would
grow and that he would die.
520
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,082
The tumors will grow,
they will use the vision,
521
00:36:21,083 --> 00:36:23,200
they will be paralyzed
and they will die.
522
00:36:23,405 --> 00:36:27,220
Because there is nothing in the world which
can be used to save this patient's life.
523
00:36:27,460 --> 00:36:31,669
You intend to continue doing
just what you have been doing
524
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:34,460
until somebody is able to
stop you, is that not true?
525
00:36:34,705 --> 00:36:38,200
I am going to do what the law will allow
me to do, Mr. Harkam.
526
00:36:38,685 --> 00:36:42,360
I do what that is necessary to bring my
medicines to a proverb in the United
527
00:36:42,361 --> 00:36:45,174
States and everywhere
in the world and bring you
528
00:36:45,175 --> 00:36:48,160
to justice for causing
the deaths of 200 patients.
529
00:36:48,610 --> 00:36:51,700
And they will come back here to hunt you
until you are dead.
530
00:36:52,340 --> 00:36:53,900
Are you threatening me, Dr. Birchinski?
531
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,980
I'm not threatening you, but that's what
I'm going to have in the future.
532
00:36:57,290 --> 00:37:00,380
Well, I think that's something that will
be remains to be seen.
533
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:07,200
At the trial, several months later,
the FDA brings 75 counts against Dr.
534
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,360
Birchinski.
535
00:37:08,490 --> 00:37:13,720
Not one of them is related to the safety
or efficacy of anti-neoplastons.
536
00:37:14,770 --> 00:37:19,440
The charges were essentially shipping a
medicine across state lines.
537
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:20,460
Give me a break.
538
00:37:20,654 --> 00:37:24,200
I mean, that's a lot, a capital crime.
539
00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:25,860
It's ridiculous.
540
00:37:26,664 --> 00:37:27,980
And it wasn't even true.
541
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,520
But this is a very, very tight monopoly.
542
00:37:33,610 --> 00:37:37,977
Despite spending 13 years
and an estimated $8 million
543
00:37:37,978 --> 00:37:42,000
prosecuting him, Birchinski
is acquitted of all charges.
544
00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:46,260
With the jury form and stating,
I think this was a government witch hunt.
545
00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:48,720
I couldn't find any victims.
546
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,000
Hi!
547
00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:51,560
I'm so happy!
548
00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:52,860
Oh, God!
549
00:37:53,330 --> 00:37:56,182
Patients like Mary Jo
Siegel and Paul Michaels are
550
00:37:56,183 --> 00:37:58,940
permitted to stay on
anti-neoplaston treatments.
551
00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:05,100
But as former FDA chief counsel Peter
Barton Hut has said, if you beat the FDA
552
00:38:05,101 --> 00:38:09,080
in court, you have an angry FDA that is
willing to slit your throat.
553
00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:13,640
So while the government cannot strip Dr.
Birchinski of his medical license,
554
00:38:14,180 --> 00:38:18,420
they can dramatically change the rules
governing admittance to his clinic.
555
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,373
In a cramped Houston
hotel room, four-year-old
556
00:38:22,374 --> 00:38:24,921
Thomas Navarro is
dying of brain cancer.
557
00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:28,720
And his desperate parents find themselves
cut up in a larger fight between a
558
00:38:28,745 --> 00:38:31,400
controversial Houston doctor and the
federal government.
559
00:38:32,225 --> 00:38:37,040
You researched other families that had
boys that had medial blastoma,
560
00:38:37,444 --> 00:38:40,590
that had not gone through chemo
and radiation, and sought out Dr.
561
00:38:41,115 --> 00:38:44,620
Birchinski, and was treated by
them, how come you didn't get in?
562
00:38:44,944 --> 00:38:46,180
And my answer is always this.
563
00:38:46,439 --> 00:38:49,500
Well, they got in before the FDA got
involved.
564
00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:55,600
And once the FDA started seeing that he
was having success with treating cancer,
565
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:58,416
then they were like,
okay, we got to set up all
566
00:38:58,417 --> 00:39:00,440
these protocols for all
these different cancers.
567
00:39:00,441 --> 00:39:03,360
So we can limit him what he can do.
568
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:09,600
And then once the patient is terminally
ill, no hope, then we'll give him the
569
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:11,460
patient to see what he can do then.
570
00:39:13,050 --> 00:39:14,850
And of course, they're sending him up to
fail.
571
00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:20,300
The American Cancer Society does the
Navarro's no favors by placing
572
00:39:20,301 --> 00:39:23,760
antineoplastons on the unproven methods
list.
573
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,400
This compendium is considered a blacklist
by many in the medical establishment.
574
00:39:28,850 --> 00:39:33,840
No insurance company will cover treatments
listed here, and it is used to brand Dr.
575
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:35,460
Birchinski as a quack.
576
00:39:36,660 --> 00:39:39,780
The American Cancer Society should have
been funding Birchinski.
577
00:39:40,930 --> 00:39:43,868
I mean, his data was
clearly provocative, but
578
00:39:43,869 --> 00:39:47,401
they got on board to
put him out of business.
579
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:50,180
You're the American Cancer Society,
don't you want?
580
00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:52,340
Cancer to be prevented in America?
581
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Instead, they end up on the side of the
government, arguing that the information
582
00:39:56,681 --> 00:40:00,741
should be censored, suppressed, never
allowed to reach the American consumer.
583
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,820
Well, that speaks volumes, I think.
584
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,101
And then you have to ask yourself, who
does the American Cancer Society represent?
585
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,705
Well, the answer with all
nonprofit organizations is
586
00:40:14,706 --> 00:40:17,640
defined by where their
financial support comes from.
587
00:40:18,610 --> 00:40:23,341
The American Cancer Society is one of the
world's wealthiest nonprofit organizations.
588
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,960
It has assets including land, cars and
cash, totaling more than $2 billion.
589
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,720
In order to finance this operation,
the ACS has established a long history of
590
00:40:34,721 --> 00:40:37,440
partnerships with deep-pocketed
corporations.
591
00:40:44,540 --> 00:40:46,880
What cigarette do you smoke, Dr.?
592
00:40:46,881 --> 00:40:49,689
Tens of thousands of doctors
in all branches of medicine
593
00:40:49,690 --> 00:40:52,160
in all parts of the country
were asked that question.
594
00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:54,100
What cigarette do you smoke, Dr.?
595
00:40:54,101 --> 00:40:55,840
The brand-named most was camel.
596
00:40:56,084 --> 00:41:00,340
Yes, surveys show more doctors' smoke
camels than any other cigarette.
597
00:41:00,615 --> 00:41:03,100
Smoke camels, the cigarette so many
doctors enjoy.
598
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:06,960
I was stunned to learn that the first
director of the American Cancer Society,
599
00:41:07,375 --> 00:41:11,920
Clarence Cook Little, resigned from that
position in 1954 to become the scientific
600
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:14,300
director of the Tobacco Industry Research
Council.
601
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,160
The Cancer Society itself had board
members at the time who worked
602
00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:23,600
hand-in-glove with the tobacco industry
advertising firms and they were running
603
00:41:23,601 --> 00:41:27,179
the Cancer Society like a
massive advertising campaign,
604
00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:29,480
a tradition that hasn't
changed in that regard.
605
00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:33,440
$27,000 for the Hurburon World.
606
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,201
First Cancer Awareness
Month was actually
607
00:41:39,202 --> 00:41:43,681
initiated by the company
that makes Tomoxifen.
608
00:41:44,430 --> 00:41:48,600
The devices for mammograms are made by
General Electric.
609
00:41:49,144 --> 00:41:52,075
And General Electric
is in a relationship with
610
00:41:52,076 --> 00:41:55,041
the people behind breast
cancer awareness month.
611
00:41:55,340 --> 00:42:01,580
So, there's a huge, huge industry that has
been invested in breast cancer.
612
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:04,480
Although the goal is noble.
613
00:42:04,845 --> 00:42:09,340
To me, it's obscene that these companies
are using the symbol of the pink ribbon
614
00:42:09,490 --> 00:42:10,940
for commercial purposes only.
615
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:16,100
Very few dollars ever make it to really
help women.
616
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000
This is the business.
617
00:42:18,740 --> 00:42:21,800
American Cancer Society is a business of
getting donations.
618
00:42:22,484 --> 00:42:26,160
And what I say to people when they give
money to these agencies you are
619
00:42:26,530 --> 00:42:34,280
perpetuating the failure because if the
American Cancer Society actually found a
620
00:42:34,330 --> 00:42:39,100
cure for cancer in their bylaws,
it said they must disband.
621
00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:47,541
If cancer were really cured, really tomorrow,
would that put the ACS out of business?
622
00:42:47,830 --> 00:42:52,640
I don't know, in a funny way, the entire
healthcare system, the entire system of
623
00:42:52,641 --> 00:42:54,909
research in healthcare is
based on a model where
624
00:42:54,910 --> 00:42:57,961
we're trying to put
ourselves out of business.
625
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,936
I don't think there's anything wrong with
that.
626
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:00,680
I think that's fine.
627
00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:03,060
I don't think it's likely to happen in my
lifetime anyway.
628
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,615
The problem with American
Cancer Society is that I think
629
00:43:07,616 --> 00:43:10,840
they are an impediment to
advances in cancer therapy.
630
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:18,580
In 1928, a Greek-American researcher named
George Papandicolo using funding from the
631
00:43:18,581 --> 00:43:23,760
American Cancer Society shows that you can
take a few cells from the opening of the
632
00:43:23,761 --> 00:43:27,192
cervix, swab them and
determine under a microscope
633
00:43:27,193 --> 00:43:31,140
whether cancer has already
occurred or is about to occur.
634
00:43:31,860 --> 00:43:35,156
If caught early enough,
the cancer can be prevented
635
00:43:35,206 --> 00:43:37,800
but the Papandicolo
test is not put to use.
636
00:43:37,850 --> 00:43:42,680
There were fights going on between
pathologists and surgeons about whether it
637
00:43:42,681 --> 00:43:46,977
was ever proper for a test
to be done in a doctor's
638
00:43:46,978 --> 00:43:50,341
office and then sent outside
for someone else to read.
639
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:55,980
Though originally funded by the ACS,
the Society changes course and aligns
640
00:43:55,981 --> 00:43:58,955
itself with physicians and
surgeons who argue that
641
00:43:58,956 --> 00:44:01,481
the test is a threat to
the practice of medicine.
642
00:44:01,855 --> 00:44:06,860
For 29 years, the low-cost test is kept
under wraps while women are treated with
643
00:44:06,885 --> 00:44:11,180
high-dose radiation or have their cervixes
surgically removed.
644
00:44:12,325 --> 00:44:14,584
Prior to the pap smear
being used, women were
645
00:44:14,585 --> 00:44:17,081
dying at very high
rates of cervix cancer.
646
00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:22,380
Once the pap smear was finally put into
place, not until the 1960s, deaths and
647
00:44:22,381 --> 00:44:26,480
cases of cervix cancer fell like a rocket,
unbelievably.
648
00:44:27,350 --> 00:44:31,040
Today, the pap smear is performed by
physicians and technicians alike.
649
00:44:31,575 --> 00:44:36,520
It has reduced the incidence of cervix
cancer by 40%, and ironically,
650
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,935
the ACS touts its
introduction as proof of
651
00:44:39,936 --> 00:44:43,821
its pivotal role in the
treatment of cancer.
652
00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:47,640
If you look at the history of cancer
therapeutics, it's like Gettysburg.
653
00:44:47,860 --> 00:44:54,240
It's just scattered with bodies of all the
people who have tried to bring effective
654
00:44:54,241 --> 00:44:57,880
new treatments to the market and have been
shot down.
655
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,960
Throughout the century, promising cures
and therapies are met harshly by the AMA,
656
00:45:06,245 --> 00:45:08,660
the FDA, and the ACS.
657
00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:13,100
Scientists, including the likes of Nobel
laureates, Linus Pauling, and Otto
658
00:45:13,101 --> 00:45:17,300
Warburg, are considered traitorous and
their work labeled as quackery.
659
00:45:18,005 --> 00:45:22,320
In the 1950s, Benedict Fitzgerald,
special counsel for the Interstate
660
00:45:22,420 --> 00:45:26,279
Commerce Committee, is
enlisted to investigate allegations
661
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,780
of conspiracy on the part
of the medical establishment.
662
00:45:29,330 --> 00:45:34,260
In 1953, Fitzgerald's report is submitted
to the United States Senate, stating,
663
00:45:34,484 --> 00:45:39,560
My investigation to date should convince
this committee that a conspiracy does exist.
664
00:45:39,790 --> 00:45:44,280
Public and private funds have been thrown
around like confetti at a county fair to
665
00:45:44,330 --> 00:45:49,640
close up and destroy clinics, hospitals,
and scientific research labs which do not
666
00:45:49,740 --> 00:45:52,220
conform to the viewpoint of medical
associations.
667
00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:54,180
The report is buried.
668
00:45:54,674 --> 00:45:55,780
Fitzgerald reassigned.
669
00:45:56,750 --> 00:46:00,520
And today, the battle to suppress
innovation rages on.
670
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:04,160
Canadian research team has come up with
DCA.
671
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,820
They believe it's a cheap and simple drug
that kills almost all cancers.
672
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:11,500
You heard that right.
673
00:46:11,950 --> 00:46:13,380
The real story is...
674
00:46:13,930 --> 00:46:14,930
you can't have it.
675
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:19,120
Not because it's unsafe, but because your
blood's going to shoot out your eyes
676
00:46:19,470 --> 00:46:20,830
because it doesn't make any money.
677
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:23,820
DCA isn't owned by any pharmaceutical
company.
678
00:46:23,950 --> 00:46:25,180
There's no patent on it.
679
00:46:25,530 --> 00:46:29,340
So on one hand, it could become a very
inexpensive new treatment for cancer.
680
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,947
On the other, drug companies
won't be interested in
681
00:46:32,948 --> 00:46:35,880
funding studies for a drug
that won't make them a profit.
682
00:46:36,820 --> 00:46:41,380
And in the US, the FDA has shut down all
sites selling the drug.
683
00:46:41,860 --> 00:46:45,840
How do you take something that costs
pennies a day and fit it into a system
684
00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:51,060
that at the end of the process is supposed
to generate a drug that's going to make
685
00:46:51,610 --> 00:46:53,600
two or four billion dollars a year for
you?
686
00:46:53,601 --> 00:46:54,840
Can't be done.
687
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,560
Back in the early to mid-80s, I was in the
laboratory and we worked on an immune
688
00:47:00,710 --> 00:47:03,057
therapy and I thought this
would be very applicable for
689
00:47:03,058 --> 00:47:05,500
children with bone cancer
that spreads to the lungs.
690
00:47:06,430 --> 00:47:10,560
Because the cancer Dr. Kleinerman is
investigating only affects a thousand
691
00:47:10,561 --> 00:47:15,820
children a year, no pharmaceutical company
will finance the trials necessary to get
692
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:17,020
FDA approval.
693
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,440
But through a grant, the trials are
designed and funded.
694
00:47:20,990 --> 00:47:24,700
The results are remarkable and the
breakthrough cure seems imminent.
695
00:47:25,540 --> 00:47:29,480
Well, the FDA and look in the design said
we don't like the design and we don't
696
00:47:29,530 --> 00:47:31,250
think it should have been designed this
way.
697
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:36,580
But okay, we did it and the data's there
and the data's been submitted for
698
00:47:36,655 --> 00:47:39,280
publications to one of the top oncology
journals.
699
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,110
But it doesn't look
like it's going to be
700
00:47:43,111 --> 00:47:46,841
accepted as the pivotal
trial to get licensing.
701
00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:49,480
This is children's lives.
702
00:47:49,544 --> 00:47:54,220
As we argue back and forth between what
should be done, our patients are losing
703
00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:55,370
valuable time.
704
00:47:55,780 --> 00:47:56,960
Time they don't have.
705
00:47:58,940 --> 00:48:01,688
Dr. Kleinerman's clinical
trials in the late 80s and
706
00:48:01,689 --> 00:48:05,000
early 90s were funded
through a grant from the NCI.
707
00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:08,290
She was one of the fortunate
researchers to get a piece
708
00:48:08,291 --> 00:48:11,820
of the institute's nearly
$4 billion annual budget.
709
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:16,180
The scientists at the University of
Alberta haven't been so lucky.
710
00:48:18,110 --> 00:48:21,900
There's even an idea that's way off the
map and you put it in a grant and say,
711
00:48:21,980 --> 00:48:24,060
I want to test this, you know,
throw it away.
712
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:30,240
There's a tendency for the people at the
National Institute of Healthy FDA and AMA,
713
00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:37,740
the whole works, to not be that interested
in trying to look at possible changes in
714
00:48:37,741 --> 00:48:42,560
our healthcare system in terms of better
treatments for disease.
715
00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:45,880
The problem isn't quack, quack,
quack.
716
00:48:46,210 --> 00:48:48,440
The core problem is money.
717
00:48:48,940 --> 00:48:50,620
The core problem is patents.
718
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,548
The core problem is who
is going to control this
719
00:48:55,549 --> 00:48:58,981
cure or this treatment
at the end of the day.
720
00:48:59,370 --> 00:49:04,680
And if it isn't the quote-unquote right
people, if it isn't the big corporations,
721
00:49:05,319 --> 00:49:06,780
it just isn't going to happen.
722
00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:12,860
Not only does this paradigm not work and
people suffer and die as they have the
723
00:49:12,985 --> 00:49:18,260
entire century, but this paradigm blocks
out true discoveries.
724
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:23,540
This paradigm persecutes those who
actually can help.
725
00:49:28,810 --> 00:49:33,200
The day I got a call from a father named
Thomas Navarro and the FDA has refused to
726
00:49:33,201 --> 00:49:35,700
allow him to do what he
thinks is best for his son and they
727
00:49:35,701 --> 00:49:38,340
placed a whole matter on
clinical hold while his son dies.
728
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:42,820
I've written a letter to Donna Shalella,
the key to which is the statement it
729
00:49:42,821 --> 00:49:47,320
should be the right of every responsible
American citizen to seek the medical care
730
00:49:47,321 --> 00:49:51,600
of their choice without government
bureaucracies standing in the way.
731
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:56,420
And one of the things we were exposing was
the fact that the FDA has never approved
732
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,380
the use of radiation or chemo for using on
children.
733
00:50:00,130 --> 00:50:04,560
The fact that if you read the
pharmaceutical inserts on the
734
00:50:04,561 --> 00:50:09,200
chemotherapies that it says right on there
from the manufacturer has not been proven
735
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:13,080
safe or effective for pediatric
application.
736
00:50:13,354 --> 00:50:18,400
So my question is, if the guys that make
it say gosh, we don't know if it works and
737
00:50:18,401 --> 00:50:21,520
we don't know if it's safe but we'll put
you in prison if you don't do it.
738
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,840
What's that all about?
739
00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:25,460
It's insane.
740
00:50:26,410 --> 00:50:29,680
Now the parents are getting some support
from unlikely sources.
741
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:33,060
Two of the men who are running against
each other for president.
742
00:50:34,220 --> 00:50:39,580
Enter the politicians, first Republican
Alan Keyes, now Texas Governor George W.
743
00:50:40,365 --> 00:50:43,270
Bush, urging the FDA
to reconsider arguing it's
744
00:50:43,271 --> 00:50:46,641
the family's choice, not
the federal governments.
745
00:50:46,770 --> 00:50:50,120
Parents are absolutely worried to death
about radiation and what it means to the
746
00:50:50,121 --> 00:50:51,921
boy and I would hope the FDA would
reconsider.
747
00:50:52,770 --> 00:51:00,280
Even though we were out there pushing our
opinion and our right, the FDA is so
748
00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:03,220
powerful they still were standing up and
saying no.
749
00:51:03,620 --> 00:51:05,703
Good morning Dr. Hany,
my name is Jim Navarro,
750
00:51:05,704 --> 00:51:07,680
and you're probably
very aware of who I am.
751
00:51:07,904 --> 00:51:12,000
I'd like to know, first of all,
why is a parent?
752
00:51:12,550 --> 00:51:14,420
I don't have the right to treat my child.
753
00:51:14,624 --> 00:51:17,016
For five and a half months
we've been here in a
754
00:51:17,017 --> 00:51:20,181
hotel waiting, still
challenging the decision.
755
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:26,860
Why can't you allow my son an opportunity
to a non-leafle, non-toxic modality first?
756
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,880
I think that I would say to you that the
kind of therapy that is being offered in
757
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:41,440
traditional settings that has a proven
efficacy is what the physicians that you
758
00:51:41,441 --> 00:51:49,300
saw in Arizona and over at the MD Anderson
in Houston, and many oncologists who treat
759
00:51:49,301 --> 00:51:52,700
this disease in this country would be
recommending to you.
760
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:59,840
As for that reason, because there is
standard therapy available that we are
761
00:51:59,841 --> 00:52:05,740
saying that is what should be done before
experimental therapy is tried.
762
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,331
Standard of care simply means
we've used this for decades on
763
00:52:09,332 --> 00:52:12,000
a post and no one's opposed us
because we've imprisoned them.
764
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:15,500
And anyone that dares speak against us,
we throw in jail.
765
00:52:20,050 --> 00:52:24,600
And they will also threaten to take all
your children away, and then bargain with
766
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:27,280
you and say, okay, we will give you back
these other children.
767
00:52:27,281 --> 00:52:30,600
We just want to have this one and treat
them.
768
00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:36,470
And what are you supposed to do as a
parent?
769
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,110
In April of 2000, Jim and Donna
take Thomas and his brother
770
00:52:42,111 --> 00:52:45,620
Patrick to Mexico in an
effort to avoid persecution.
771
00:52:46,180 --> 00:52:48,834
Stahl for time to get
into the Brzezinski
772
00:52:48,835 --> 00:52:52,701
clinic and try an alternative
non-toxic therapy.
773
00:53:10,580 --> 00:53:15,960
Realistically, for the FDA to allow it,
I don't know that they will allow it.
774
00:53:15,961 --> 00:53:19,901
I think what it's going to take is a
congressional order to get them to stand down.
775
00:53:20,015 --> 00:53:23,240
It's not about whether or not they want to
allow it because they don't.
776
00:53:23,490 --> 00:53:25,170
It flies in the face of what they're
doing.
777
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,220
It disrupts their covenant with the
pharmaceutical companies.
778
00:53:31,439 --> 00:53:33,100
So they're not going to go for it.
779
00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:37,560
You have right to choose in the entire
commercial market except for medicine.
780
00:53:37,954 --> 00:53:38,960
And it's interesting.
781
00:53:39,725 --> 00:53:43,560
Your right to choose in cancer is
truncated the most.
782
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:49,420
You'll find that when conventional
medicine is not working, that is the
783
00:53:49,445 --> 00:53:53,764
therapy that receives the most
attention and the most protection
784
00:53:53,765 --> 00:53:56,680
by the FDA and the AMA and
the other conventional guys.
785
00:53:57,184 --> 00:54:00,420
You know, people will go to Mexico to get
treatment for broken leg.
786
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:07,430
We've arranged with
Dr. Prior to meet at Chipsa
787
00:54:07,431 --> 00:54:12,900
Hospital and go through
our catheterization today.
788
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,810
I'll do whatever I have
to do in order to keep
789
00:54:17,811 --> 00:54:21,180
myself alive because
I've got too much to lose.
790
00:54:21,474 --> 00:54:22,474
It is.
791
00:54:23,555 --> 00:54:25,960
That's not even a question in my mind.
792
00:54:26,210 --> 00:54:29,579
The catheter is just a
route of administration that
793
00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:33,260
just facilitates how
easily this can go for it.
794
00:54:33,505 --> 00:54:40,680
I attempted to have a catheter placed in
my chest back in Delray Beach.
795
00:54:41,504 --> 00:54:44,357
And that was not going
to be possible because
796
00:54:44,358 --> 00:54:46,820
they had to know why
it was being placed there.
797
00:54:46,940 --> 00:54:49,580
What was going to be injected.
798
00:54:51,380 --> 00:54:54,004
And once they were to
know what was going to
799
00:54:54,005 --> 00:54:56,380
be injected, they
would not approve of it.
800
00:54:57,070 --> 00:54:59,280
The doctor was putting his license on the
line.
801
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:06,280
The illegal therapy Gloria wants to use is
a combination of sodium bicarbonate and
802
00:55:06,281 --> 00:55:10,700
leotril, also known as vitamin B17 or
amygdalen.
803
00:55:11,460 --> 00:55:14,474
It is derived from the kernel
of an apricot and its benefits
804
00:55:14,475 --> 00:55:17,780
in treating cancer have
been touted for generations.
805
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:23,800
There are certain places around the world
that traditionally don't have cancer.
806
00:55:24,164 --> 00:55:29,160
In Hunza, a man's wealth was measured by
the number of apricot trees he owned.
807
00:55:29,460 --> 00:55:30,460
They didn't have money.
808
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:31,720
It was a primitive society.
809
00:55:32,185 --> 00:55:33,585
And they didn't have cancer either.
810
00:55:33,644 --> 00:55:36,370
And then you have the
Wilcombe Babas and the Hopi
811
00:55:36,371 --> 00:55:39,021
and the Navajo Indians
and the Aboriginal Eskimos.
812
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,497
These little pockets,
these little cultures around
813
00:55:42,572 --> 00:55:45,480
the world that traditionally
did not have cancer.
814
00:55:46,350 --> 00:55:49,902
In every case, when you
study the natural food to those
815
00:55:49,903 --> 00:55:52,820
people, it's very rich in
this amygdalen substance.
816
00:55:53,930 --> 00:55:55,980
Leotril comes to prominence in the U.S.
817
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,360
in the 1970s.
818
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:03,100
It is legal in 17 states, but is easiest
to find in Tijuana, Mexico, where cancer
819
00:56:03,101 --> 00:56:06,380
patients from all walks of life come in
search of a cure.
820
00:56:07,660 --> 00:56:12,820
The president had a cancer confined to the
wall of his colon or bowel.
821
00:56:12,821 --> 00:56:19,000
After undergoing colon surgery in 1985,
president Ronald Reagan is told by his
822
00:56:19,001 --> 00:56:24,981
doctors that there is a chance cancer cells
will spread to his liver or other organs.
823
00:56:25,710 --> 00:56:31,960
In the early 80s, I was invited to train
with Dr. Vera Allison in Nevada.
824
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,960
We got a call.
825
00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:39,669
Secret service said we want
you to intervene and be by
826
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:44,220
proxy president Reagan's
primary care metabolic doctor.
827
00:56:45,305 --> 00:56:50,100
He wants and Nancy wants his wife to use
leotril therapy.
828
00:56:51,150 --> 00:56:55,720
Two decades before Ronald Reagan is
diagnosed with cancer, a future Oregon
829
00:56:55,721 --> 00:57:01,761
senator named Mark Hatfield meets Dr. Allison
when she treats his mother for cancer.
830
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:04,860
Mark Hatfield never forgot that.
831
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:10,460
Having befriended Reagan, obviously,
he suggested, well, there's a little gal
832
00:57:10,461 --> 00:57:12,540
in Nevada and we need to hook you up with
her.
833
00:57:13,015 --> 00:57:17,460
For 13 months, we took care of president
Reagan, and the way we did that,
834
00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:21,180
the government hired a private doctor.
835
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:27,540
So each day, he would hook up the IV lines
according to Dr. Allison's instructions.
836
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:34,160
Occasionally, President Reagan would fly
to Mexico on state business, but what he
837
00:57:34,161 --> 00:57:40,500
was down here, he was meeting Dr. Ernesto
Contreras and getting IV therapy, leotril.
838
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:43,980
And he never had one bit of chemo or
radiation.
839
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:49,221
So we had a president
who lived to his 90s, used
840
00:57:49,222 --> 00:57:52,380
only metabolic therapy
in addition to surgery.
841
00:57:53,450 --> 00:57:57,940
And he survived.
842
00:58:09,810 --> 00:58:13,630
Leotril, however, is not the only drug
that finds its way to Mexico.
843
00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:16,590
Remember what happened with tamoxifen?
844
00:58:16,990 --> 00:58:18,950
It was the middle 80s.
845
00:58:19,025 --> 00:58:23,850
I started to use tamoxifen, and it was not
allowed in the United States.
846
00:58:24,940 --> 00:58:28,210
And the patients were coming to use
tamoxifen here.
847
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:32,290
And what we hear from doctors in the
States is, oh, you are going with this?
848
00:58:33,450 --> 00:58:35,870
Quack guys are giving you something that
does not work.
849
00:58:36,825 --> 00:58:38,230
Who brought tamoxifen to Mexico?
850
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:40,079
Where are these pharmaceuticals?
851
00:58:40,810 --> 00:58:41,170
Why?
852
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:43,380
Because they couldn't put it out in the
States sooner.
853
00:58:43,404 --> 00:58:46,990
The same happened with flutamide,
for prostate cancer, ulexin.
854
00:58:47,570 --> 00:58:48,690
It was first here in Mexico.
855
00:58:48,970 --> 00:58:50,570
It was not allowed in the United States.
856
00:58:50,629 --> 00:58:52,810
And doctor in the States is, that's not a
good product.
857
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:58,070
Once they prove that it was an effective
medicine, then they pass it after.
858
00:58:59,660 --> 00:59:02,864
So alternative medicine
at the end is something
859
00:59:02,865 --> 00:59:06,311
that perhaps the
pharmaceutical needs.
860
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:16,870
This is so non-invasive and so powerful
and so simple.
861
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,939
I would suggest that
by Christmas time, we are
862
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:24,531
going to have a
wonderful time to celebrate.
863
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,790
And be with their family.
864
00:59:27,744 --> 00:59:29,310
And have good news.
865
00:59:29,970 --> 00:59:35,030
And have this really, really controlled
and pretty much out of her system.
866
00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:47,299
Well, there are people
who say patients should be
867
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:50,660
able to get access to
experimental drugs on demand.
868
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:52,320
I have a fatal disease.
869
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,260
I want what I want.
870
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,040
Give it to me.
871
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,580
I'm an American.
872
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,920
I have the right to have that.
873
00:59:57,380 --> 01:00:01,380
The problem with that is, we will never
learn whether it worked or not.
874
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:05,800
If we just simply give it to anybody who
wants it.
875
01:00:11,390 --> 01:00:13,417
We've got to make sure
we understand the disease
876
01:00:13,418 --> 01:00:16,311
as best as we can at
the molecular level.
877
01:00:16,430 --> 01:00:20,543
Match that in a group with
how the disease responds
878
01:00:20,544 --> 01:00:23,511
and know whether or not
we've really made any progress.
879
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:26,711
The worst thing that
can happen is for us to
880
01:00:26,712 --> 01:00:29,190
approve something
that actually is worthless.
881
01:00:29,490 --> 01:00:31,030
Sure, there are frauds out there.
882
01:00:31,324 --> 01:00:34,190
And those frauds can be identified and
prosecuted.
883
01:00:34,670 --> 01:00:35,670
And they should be.
884
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:42,230
But there are many, many brilliant doctors
who provide alternatives.
885
01:00:43,350 --> 01:00:47,950
When the FDA approved treatment is utterly
unsuccessful.
886
01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:54,190
In June 2000, Jim Navarro with the help of
Congressman Dan Burton is able to persuade
887
01:00:54,191 --> 01:00:59,150
Congress to hold hearings on the Thomas
Navarro Patience Rights Act which will
888
01:00:59,151 --> 01:01:02,230
allow informed patients to choose their
own therapy.
889
01:01:03,150 --> 01:01:05,550
On behalf of Committee, I want to welcome
you all here today.
890
01:01:06,210 --> 01:01:08,810
Mr. Navarro, it's nice having you back
with us.
891
01:01:08,834 --> 01:01:13,970
Why don't you tell us how your son is doing
and what's transpired since we last met.
892
01:01:14,650 --> 01:01:18,890
As we speak, Thomas is in therapy outside
the United States.
893
01:01:20,090 --> 01:01:26,210
And in spite of the events of the last
almost nine months, he's doing quite well
894
01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:27,790
and defeating his illness.
895
01:01:28,065 --> 01:01:33,070
Mr. Chairman, you asked, can an unapproved
therapy believe to be less toxic,
896
01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:38,490
be tried prior to a curative therapy that
has known serious adverse events?
897
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,750
The answer is no.
898
01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:45,810
The conventional therapies for medial
blasphemy is one of the true success
899
01:01:48,110 --> 01:01:56,110
stories of pediatric oncology in that it
allows a curative potential in over a 75%
900
01:01:56,111 --> 01:02:00,370
of patients that are interim to just real
briefly because I saw some of the children
901
01:02:01,170 --> 01:02:02,670
that were cured by this treatment.
902
01:02:03,370 --> 01:02:04,370
I saw them.
903
01:02:05,370 --> 01:02:06,490
They were mentally retarded.
904
01:02:06,910 --> 01:02:07,910
They couldn't talk.
905
01:02:08,270 --> 01:02:09,270
They couldn't speak.
906
01:02:10,015 --> 01:02:14,650
The cancer supposedly was cured,
but the child was a vegetable.
907
01:02:15,450 --> 01:02:18,510
Now I'm not sure that that's
what those parents envisioned
908
01:02:18,511 --> 01:02:20,710
when they went through
the conventional treatment.
909
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:29,050
Number one, Thomas Navarro did not qualify
for the protocol because it was
910
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,690
specifically stated that patients must
have had an attemptive curative therapy.
911
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,270
Meaning chemotherapy and radiation because
of the treatment.
912
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:45,190
Ignoring the requests of Chairman Burton,
Dr. Pazdour refuses to listen to the
913
01:02:45,191 --> 01:02:49,190
testimony of other expert witnesses or Jim
Navarro.
914
01:02:49,930 --> 01:02:50,930
Hello, Dr. Navarro.
915
01:02:51,580 --> 01:02:53,260
Can I just show you something really good?
916
01:02:53,819 --> 01:02:56,250
As a man of common sense, I'm sure you'll
agree.
917
01:02:57,020 --> 01:02:58,290
You've seen my son, Thomas.
918
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,450
This is his new best friend, Liam.
919
01:03:02,865 --> 01:03:08,307
After two months of chemo
therapy, it triggered him in my
920
01:03:08,308 --> 01:03:12,770
reaction to him or throughout
his head and broke his jaw.
921
01:03:14,530 --> 01:03:15,650
May I show you the audience?
922
01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:17,190
Sure.
923
01:03:19,610 --> 01:03:24,410
This is Thomas using alternative therapy.
924
01:03:25,050 --> 01:03:29,130
And this is Liam, conventional therapy,
two months for him.
925
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:32,230
Which would you choose?
926
01:03:36,149 --> 01:03:37,330
Who decides?
927
01:03:39,035 --> 01:03:41,390
You have to admit that this is a cesspool.
928
01:03:42,294 --> 01:03:44,937
I mean, the FDA is not
some pristine, beautiful
929
01:03:44,938 --> 01:03:47,030
palace where
everything is crystalline.
930
01:03:47,180 --> 01:03:48,530
Everyone is spicken span.
931
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:53,390
The only thing that people are allowed to
see, I see a big sign.
932
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:57,710
And the sign says, FDA, we defend the
public health.
933
01:03:58,890 --> 01:04:01,310
And of all the lies
that are perpetuated to
934
01:04:01,311 --> 01:04:03,290
the American public,
that one's the biggest.
935
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,230
We have a serious problem in our whole
federal government.
936
01:04:08,030 --> 01:04:11,903
It's tremendously important
for the members of the
937
01:04:11,904 --> 01:04:16,770
Congress to be sure that they
don't antagonize in any way.
938
01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:18,470
The people who give them the money.
939
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:21,390
Because they need that money for their
next campaign.
940
01:04:22,350 --> 01:04:28,850
So, we have a government that is beholden
primarily to the special interest money
941
01:04:28,851 --> 01:04:31,763
that they get from
special interest and their
942
01:04:31,764 --> 01:04:35,151
lobbyists rather than
the people of our country.
943
01:04:35,530 --> 01:04:39,026
And the industry that
spends the most money on
944
01:04:39,027 --> 01:04:41,570
lobbying of any is a
pharmaceutical industry.
945
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:48,670
And it's money that pushes the whole
system so that it's the money that the
946
01:04:48,671 --> 01:04:53,830
pharmaceutical companies give in political
contributions to members of Congress.
947
01:04:54,630 --> 01:04:59,770
And it is the movement of people from the
pharmaceutical industry to the FDA and
948
01:04:59,771 --> 01:05:04,090
back and forth where it's the money that
these people make that moves the system.
949
01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:06,090
So, it's not the individuals.
950
01:05:06,464 --> 01:05:08,710
It's the system that corrupts the whole
thing.
951
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,970
We initially got excellent response from
both sides of the aisle.
952
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:20,530
But then when we introduced the bill and
it went to committee, the bill was
953
01:05:20,531 --> 01:05:24,370
basically beat down by Henry Waxman out of
LA.
954
01:05:24,810 --> 01:05:28,010
He was married to a sister of a former
commissioner of the FDA.
955
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,850
So, you knew which side of the bread he
was buttered on.
956
01:05:37,195 --> 01:05:40,050
So, there's one, two, three, four.
957
01:05:50,585 --> 01:05:52,750
Yes, he said yes.
958
01:05:53,510 --> 01:05:54,510
There.
959
01:06:14,214 --> 01:06:17,291
When Thomas's tumors
recur in July of 2000, the
960
01:06:17,292 --> 01:06:20,300
Navarro's have no choice
but to return to the states.
961
01:06:21,115 --> 01:06:24,400
Thomas will undergo surgery in New York to
remove the tumors.
962
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:30,081
And according to standard protocol,
received 10 days of high dose chemotherapy.
963
01:07:09,830 --> 01:07:13,700
Then we had a CAT scan done on 1st of
November.
964
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:22,680
And it still showed the tumor growing a
little bit, not a lot, but a little bit.
965
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:29,120
And at this point, the tumor was getting
so large that I said, you know,
966
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,080
we just can't continue this.
967
01:07:31,081 --> 01:07:33,576
Because I was
beginning to experience a
968
01:07:33,577 --> 01:07:37,701
pressure in my chest
and started this dry cough.
969
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,377
So, consequently, we
started a chemotherapy
970
01:07:45,378 --> 01:07:48,460
program, which is the
last thing I wanted to do.
971
01:07:51,255 --> 01:07:54,580
This mesothenialma is a very resistant
cancer.
972
01:07:54,581 --> 01:07:58,616
And so, my sense is
that the layatrial in the
973
01:07:58,617 --> 01:08:02,341
sodium macarbonate
were just not strong enough.
974
01:08:02,890 --> 01:08:04,120
And so, I have no regrets.
975
01:08:05,220 --> 01:08:06,220
Not at all.
976
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:13,032
As it corrupted what we
really want for individual
977
01:08:13,033 --> 01:08:16,640
patients needs, we have
to support their wishes.
978
01:08:17,225 --> 01:08:22,240
And we do the best we can without being
dogmatic.
979
01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:29,399
We're learning year after year on how to
integrate both safe and small doses of
980
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:35,080
conventional care with maximum natural
therapy approaches.
981
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,899
Mesothelialyoma is really one of the
hardest cancers to overcome.
982
01:08:41,885 --> 01:08:46,939
And so, it becomes a team effort from the
family's point of view and the doctor
983
01:08:46,940 --> 01:08:51,680
team, all that contributing to this
success of this person's quality of life.
984
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:54,150
Good morning.
985
01:08:54,900 --> 01:08:56,220
My name is Gloria LaBarge.
986
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,240
I have a 945 with Dr. Clostin.
987
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:04,720
It's important for us as classically
trained physicians to realize the
988
01:09:04,721 --> 01:09:07,268
limitations of the
treatments that we have and
989
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:10,241
the costs in terms of
side effects that they have.
990
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:15,000
But it's also important for us to
acknowledge that there are, for example,
991
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:18,520
Chinese herbal remedies that have been
around for thousands of years.
992
01:09:18,521 --> 01:09:21,620
And the reason that they're still used is
because they have some benefit.
993
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:27,040
On colleges throughout the country are
open to prescribing alternative treatments
994
01:09:27,041 --> 01:09:29,979
if they can be shown to be safe and
effective.
995
01:09:30,780 --> 01:09:34,189
But they risk losing their
licenses or even being thrown in
996
01:09:34,190 --> 01:09:38,100
jail in the absence of data
from approved clinical trials.
997
01:09:39,130 --> 01:09:43,120
The Office of Alternative Medicine was
supposed to solve that problem.
998
01:09:44,095 --> 01:09:47,603
In 1992, it was one of the few
people who was asked to set
999
01:09:47,604 --> 01:09:50,180
up the first office of
alternative medicine at the NIH.
1000
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:53,700
We did that with centers Harkin and Hatch,
and a few others.
1001
01:09:54,135 --> 01:09:58,120
But those dollars, the dollars that are
assigned to them by way of the Senate,
1002
01:09:58,540 --> 01:10:00,900
has to go through the approval process of
the NIH.
1003
01:10:01,305 --> 01:10:04,796
The report language on that
bill was that it was to quote,
1004
01:10:04,797 --> 01:10:08,140
investigate and validate
alternative treatments for disease.
1005
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,823
Well, NIH would have no
part of any investigation
1006
01:10:11,824 --> 01:10:14,781
or validation of
alternative treatments.
1007
01:10:14,865 --> 01:10:18,201
And in the eight years
that I served on the advisory
1008
01:10:18,202 --> 01:10:21,100
committee, our advisory
committee was of one mind.
1009
01:10:21,150 --> 01:10:24,281
We wanted them to do
what the legislation said,
1010
01:10:24,282 --> 01:10:26,660
investigate and validate
these alternative treatments.
1011
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:27,520
They wouldn't do it.
1012
01:10:27,630 --> 01:10:31,880
It's a red headed stepchild, and always
will be.
1013
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:42,460
After being tumor-free for several months,
Thomas' cancer resurfaces on his spine.
1014
01:10:43,010 --> 01:10:44,983
And the Navarro's make
a last desperate plea
1015
01:10:44,984 --> 01:10:48,061
to gain admittance
to the Brzezinski clinic.
1016
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,320
When Syracuse did an MRI on him,
the doctor came out and shook his head and
1017
01:11:04,420 --> 01:11:07,480
said, we stopped counting tumors at 50.
1018
01:11:09,170 --> 01:11:10,440
You need to take him home.
1019
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,420
Or by the chemotherapy.
1020
01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:16,900
The tumors are being caused by the
chemotherapy.
1021
01:11:16,940 --> 01:11:17,940
This is Chairman Burton.
1022
01:11:18,060 --> 01:11:20,260
I need to talk to Dr. Pasdura right away.
1023
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:23,760
Does he have an assistant?
1024
01:11:26,590 --> 01:11:27,590
This is the assistant?
1025
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:28,640
Have an assistant?
1026
01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:30,920
No, I want to talk to him now.
1027
01:11:31,140 --> 01:11:32,140
This is Chairman Burton.
1028
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,360
Can you find him?
1029
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,300
I love this universe.
1030
01:11:45,375 --> 01:11:46,965
You're going to be
fired if I don't talk to you
1031
01:11:46,966 --> 01:11:49,261
pretty quick, because
I'll call Tommy Thompson.
1032
01:11:49,630 --> 01:11:50,990
You want me to call the secretary?
1033
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,220
If I don't talk to him in the next five
minutes, and you tell him I said that,
1034
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,460
I will call Tommy Thompson.
1035
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:02,160
Well, you get a hold of me in five
minutes.
1036
01:12:04,645 --> 01:12:06,320
I just get so tired of these.
1037
01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:17,821
You would say it is safe to head to Houston,
because I'll put them on a jet today.
1038
01:12:30,650 --> 01:12:33,550
I'll get a hold of Pasdura now,
because he has no clue.
1039
01:12:34,050 --> 01:12:35,050
Thank you so much.
1040
01:12:39,690 --> 01:12:41,130
Press it.
1041
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:41,790
Press it.
1042
01:12:41,810 --> 01:12:42,810
Here you go.
1043
01:12:43,570 --> 01:12:47,207
On April 28, 2001, the
Navarro's 18 month battle to
1044
01:12:47,208 --> 01:12:51,630
get Thomas into the
Brzezinski clinic finally ends.
1045
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:53,190
Okay, let's get off.
1046
01:12:53,890 --> 01:12:59,110
It's almost a miracle that the Thomas is
still alive at this moment.
1047
01:13:00,110 --> 01:13:06,470
On the other hand, when he was waiting for
the permission, his disease progressed,
1048
01:13:07,590 --> 01:13:09,290
and he was very close to death.
1049
01:13:09,690 --> 01:13:18,691
Dr. Brzezinski said he did not hold out much
hope, but he was going to give it a try.
1050
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:31,030
Did you see it?
1051
01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:32,170
Hi, how are you doing?
1052
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,630
In the spine, we see pretty much the same
situation.
1053
01:13:36,690 --> 01:13:37,690
It's pretty good.
1054
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,210
Of course, we need to measure this exactly
to find out what's the difference.
1055
01:13:43,190 --> 01:13:46,050
We're going to have some normal tissue,
which is occurring inside.
1056
01:13:46,645 --> 01:13:48,430
It's in turn six on the fifth.
1057
01:13:50,410 --> 01:13:51,810
That's a big day per year.
1058
01:13:53,425 --> 01:13:54,750
It's a third stage.
1059
01:14:02,775 --> 01:14:04,410
Yes, it's Thomas's birthday.
1060
01:14:08,510 --> 01:14:12,430
If you would treat him two years ago,
today he'd be cured, I believe.
1061
01:14:14,710 --> 01:14:18,430
A lot of people don't realize that with
chemotherapy, after you're done with the
1062
01:14:18,431 --> 01:14:21,596
treatment, the chemotherapy
lies dormant in your
1063
01:14:21,597 --> 01:14:24,851
fat cells, and then a
year later re-emerges.
1064
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,790
So you have that cellular breakdown all
over again, you lose your hair,
1065
01:14:27,791 --> 01:14:33,490
you have all your organs and everything
start breaking down.
1066
01:14:53,330 --> 01:14:54,730
Give you what?
1067
01:14:56,460 --> 01:14:59,170
Do you want me to turn you, or do you want
to check them out?
1068
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,210
Then be patient.
1069
01:15:02,460 --> 01:15:03,990
I can't do too much at the same time.
1070
01:15:05,850 --> 01:15:06,850
Turn me.
1071
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:08,270
I did turn you.
1072
01:15:09,060 --> 01:15:10,060
This one.
1073
01:15:10,570 --> 01:15:11,650
You were that way, sweetie.
1074
01:15:12,820 --> 01:15:14,050
This way, now.
1075
01:15:14,690 --> 01:15:16,170
Do you want to go back the other way?
1076
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:17,760
Okay.
1077
01:15:24,010 --> 01:15:25,090
You okay?
1078
01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:26,910
Yes, all right.
1079
01:15:27,550 --> 01:15:28,630
You turn me.
1080
01:15:29,550 --> 01:15:30,550
I did turn you.
1081
01:15:30,925 --> 01:15:32,570
This way, now.
1082
01:15:33,230 --> 01:15:33,850
This way, right?
1083
01:15:33,950 --> 01:15:34,950
Turn me.
1084
01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:38,290
I love you.
1085
01:15:41,550 --> 01:15:42,930
You want water?
1086
01:15:43,630 --> 01:15:44,630
Yes.
1087
01:16:01,420 --> 01:16:05,170
Statistically speaking, Ray Lamy was cured
of cancer three times.
1088
01:16:05,810 --> 01:16:08,370
That's because he
survived five years past his
1089
01:16:08,371 --> 01:16:11,991
initial diagnosis of
bladder cancer in 1980.
1090
01:16:12,530 --> 01:16:19,290
Five years past his 1981 diagnosis of
kidney cancer and five years past his 2003
1091
01:16:19,291 --> 01:16:24,731
diagnosis of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, which
was treated with combination chemotherapy.
1092
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:29,890
But he spent the last three years of his
life battling ever more aggressive forms
1093
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:30,990
of the disease.
1094
01:16:31,510 --> 01:16:37,170
And on July 21st, 2009, he died from
lymphoma at the age of 64.
1095
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,730
Despite vigorously pursuing treatments in
both the complimentary and conventional
1096
01:16:43,731 --> 01:16:50,610
worlds of cancer therapy, Gloria Labarge
succumbed to mesothelioma in July, 2008.
1097
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:59,610
Our oncologist conceded that the first
line treatments were no longer effective.
1098
01:17:01,970 --> 01:17:07,110
He went to a vastine and it just...it
really did nothing.
1099
01:17:07,445 --> 01:17:11,850
It seemed like, you know, the disease was
bulletproof at this point.
1100
01:17:13,170 --> 01:17:16,145
You know, it would just
be a matter of time and
1101
01:17:16,146 --> 01:17:18,370
making her comfortable
until she would pass.
1102
01:17:18,785 --> 01:17:23,590
We didn't know how long that would be,
but the disease was so intense inside of
1103
01:17:24,015 --> 01:17:26,290
her that it turned out to be less than a
month.
1104
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:30,390
He was inhibited like five times.
1105
01:17:30,945 --> 01:17:33,690
He was put on a respirator to breathe
form.
1106
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:36,510
And on his fifth time, we're like,
what do you want to do?
1107
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:38,110
Do you want to fight?
1108
01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:40,690
Or do you want to go home?
1109
01:17:40,691 --> 01:17:41,910
He goes, I want to go home.
1110
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:49,730
In November 2001, two years after his
diagnosis, the Navarro's are told Thomas
1111
01:17:50,130 --> 01:17:52,270
only has a few days left to live.
1112
01:17:53,375 --> 01:17:54,375
Do you want to go home?
1113
01:17:54,700 --> 01:17:55,700
Yeah.
1114
01:17:56,250 --> 01:17:57,250
Do you miss Daddy?
1115
01:17:57,650 --> 01:18:03,680
One, two, three.
1116
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:11,040
You're home, baby.
1117
01:18:18,110 --> 01:18:19,120
How you doing?
1118
01:18:20,889 --> 01:18:22,780
We glad you're home, buddy.
1119
01:18:23,820 --> 01:18:24,820
Me too.
1120
01:18:31,310 --> 01:18:35,310
So then we had to make the decision to let
him go, and it was very difficult.
1121
01:18:36,350 --> 01:18:39,810
But he fought so hard and so did we.
1122
01:18:42,740 --> 01:18:45,083
His death certificate
reads, respiratory
1123
01:18:45,084 --> 01:18:48,151
arrest due to chronic
toxicity of chemotherapy.
1124
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,880
That says it all.
1125
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:51,070
Yeah.
1126
01:18:53,630 --> 01:18:54,630
It says it all.
1127
01:19:04,940 --> 01:19:06,480
Cancer equals chemotherapy.
1128
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,020
That's hard to eradicate that from your
mind.
1129
01:19:09,940 --> 01:19:14,440
So when you have a cancer, are you going
to really jeopardize yourself in your mind
1130
01:19:14,690 --> 01:19:15,780
by not taking chemotherapy?
1131
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:17,500
It's yourself now.
1132
01:19:18,110 --> 01:19:20,760
You have to come in and deal with your own
demons about that.
1133
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,240
That's hard to do.
1134
01:19:24,170 --> 01:19:27,461
One in two men and one
in every three women in the
1135
01:19:27,462 --> 01:19:30,301
United States will get
cancer in their lifetime.
1136
01:19:30,940 --> 01:19:32,000
But there is hope.
1137
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,038
What we have to do is
learn how to prevent it,
1138
01:19:37,039 --> 01:19:39,060
and we have to learn
how to treat it better.
1139
01:19:39,505 --> 01:19:40,720
Now, can we prevent it?
1140
01:19:40,730 --> 01:19:41,340
The answer is yes.
1141
01:19:41,620 --> 01:19:41,800
Why?
1142
01:19:42,350 --> 01:19:44,940
Because risk factors that we're talking
about are controllable.
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Only 6 to 7, maybe 10% of all cancers are
related to genetics.
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We can't, in any individual case,
be sure of preventing cancer.
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01:19:53,820 --> 01:19:55,885
But we know a lot more
and we've known a lot
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01:19:55,886 --> 01:19:58,160
more for a long time
about the causes of cancer.
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01:19:58,230 --> 01:20:01,600
I think there's no question that diet has
something to do with cancer.
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There's no question.
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01:20:02,540 --> 01:20:06,520
If you look at the migratory studies from
Japan to the Hawaii to the United States,
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and look at breast cancer, you see,
you know, optics and breast cancer.
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01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:14,240
And the biggest change is the western diet
versus the Japanese diet.
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01:20:14,610 --> 01:20:16,794
Part of the problem, a
big part of the problem, is
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01:20:16,795 --> 01:20:19,880
the economic incentives
are not there for prevention.
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01:20:20,420 --> 01:20:25,380
We are taught to treat in medical school,
and we are paid to treat in practice.
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01:20:26,090 --> 01:20:30,040
We don't get taught prevention,
and we don't get paid to prevent.
1156
01:20:30,940 --> 01:20:32,700
So the whole system is kind of
topsy-turvy.
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01:20:35,230 --> 01:20:39,440
Prevention alone, however, will not win
the war on cancer.
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01:20:40,220 --> 01:20:41,840
What are our standards for success?
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01:20:42,145 --> 01:20:43,380
Does a tumor have to shrink?
1160
01:20:43,470 --> 01:20:45,030
Well, the tumor doesn't have to shrink.
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01:20:45,180 --> 01:20:48,420
In diabetes, the pancreas doesn't get
better, but we treat people with insulin,
1162
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,352
and we turn a disease
that would be fatal if
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01:20:50,353 --> 01:20:52,961
we didn't treat it
into a chronic disease.
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01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,000
That's what we need to do with cancer,
perhaps.
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01:20:55,170 --> 01:20:58,400
First, can we turn a tumor into just a
lump?
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01:21:01,250 --> 01:21:08,740
We've had, since 1971, a very long period
of time to see that the current methods of
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01:21:09,090 --> 01:21:10,300
doing things are not working.
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01:21:10,650 --> 01:21:15,060
Chemotherapy has long ago reached its
limits, surgery and radiation,
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01:21:15,061 --> 01:21:18,120
although they become technically more
refined.
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01:21:18,450 --> 01:21:22,680
They only really work when you can get the
tumor early and remove it, but the ancient
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01:21:22,805 --> 01:21:23,820
Egyptians knew that.
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01:21:24,670 --> 01:21:26,720
So you need something more effective.
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01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:32,780
The therapies which are addressing what is
causing cancer, especially the changes in
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01:21:33,180 --> 01:21:35,760
genetic makeup in the cancer, are now
taken over.
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01:21:35,860 --> 01:21:39,700
We are striving toward the
individualization of cancer treatment,
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01:21:40,035 --> 01:21:44,020
where you would take a tumor, take an
individual, characterize them molecularly,
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01:21:44,155 --> 01:21:45,940
and tailor your therapy accordingly.
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01:21:46,755 --> 01:21:49,820
That's not what the FDA system is built to
look at.
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01:21:50,220 --> 01:21:53,040
So we're going to have to step back and
look at it all over again.
1180
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,588
How are we really going
to characterize patients'
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01:21:55,589 --> 01:21:57,880
diseases and the response
to the treatments we have?
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01:21:58,115 --> 01:21:59,120
That's a big issue now.
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01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:04,080
I personally think that the war on cancer
would move a lot faster, and would have
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01:22:04,081 --> 01:22:07,679
moved a lot faster if the
FDA was moving along with
1185
01:22:07,779 --> 01:22:10,520
it instead of looking at
as sort of an adversary.
1186
01:22:10,890 --> 01:22:13,320
The laws aren't being made by the elected
representatives.
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01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:14,906
They're being made by the bureaucrats.
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01:22:14,930 --> 01:22:16,140
They're insulated by law.
1189
01:22:16,570 --> 01:22:18,300
We have to force Congress to change.
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01:22:18,485 --> 01:22:23,480
Our desire now that we've had this time
since our son's passing, and we're not
1191
01:22:23,605 --> 01:22:27,540
whole yet, we'll never be whole,
but now that we've healed to the point
1192
01:22:27,541 --> 01:22:35,120
where we can take the hits, we want to
reintroduce his bill and this time drive
1193
01:22:35,121 --> 01:22:40,100
it through to law so that people have the
right to choose their doctors.
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01:22:40,380 --> 01:22:47,660
There isn't a doctor, for example,
in Italy, who claims that cancer is caused
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01:22:47,661 --> 01:22:51,760
by a fungus, and if you eliminate the
fungus you eliminate the problem.
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01:22:51,925 --> 01:22:54,800
I don't know if he's right or wrong,
and I don't pretend to know.
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01:22:55,340 --> 01:22:58,420
But it seems to me, for God's sakes,
we ought to find out.
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01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:04,180
Because it seems to me it's significantly
important for us to find out what is the
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01:23:04,181 --> 01:23:06,687
real problem here
that we should not close
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01:23:06,688 --> 01:23:10,301
the door to looking
at those sorts of things.
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01:23:11,230 --> 01:23:12,590
How should we meet this challenge?
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01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:17,540
How can we truly open the doors and set
free the full genius of our people?
1203
01:23:19,460 --> 01:23:23,220
One has to assume given the state of
science and the tools we have at our
1204
01:23:23,221 --> 01:23:25,060
disposal, there isn't anything we can't
do.
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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,740
Patients should have a right to choose,
doctors should be free to innovate.
1206
01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:31,420
That's the way Madison moves forward.
1207
01:23:31,820 --> 01:23:39,820
If you could detach research from the
financial agenda, then scientists could do
1208
01:23:39,821 --> 01:23:43,453
their work without
consideration of where this
1209
01:23:43,454 --> 01:23:46,621
is going to lead in
terms of profitability.
1210
01:23:47,150 --> 01:23:50,260
And then I think you'd see the brilliance
come out.
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01:23:50,495 --> 01:23:51,775
People said we went to the moon.
1212
01:23:52,244 --> 01:23:53,660
Why can't we do that with cancer?
1213
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,766
And the answer is, when we went to the
moon, we pretty much understood the
1214
01:23:56,790 --> 01:24:00,760
physics and the aviation, the avionics of
what it took.
1215
01:24:00,825 --> 01:24:04,340
It was a question of whether we had to
where with all to spend the money and put
1216
01:24:04,341 --> 01:24:07,800
in the technology to get the man to the
moon and back, which we were willing to do.
1217
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:13,020
We are now very early in the same process
with cancer, but we're way early.
1218
01:24:13,370 --> 01:24:15,060
We're still defining the rules of the
game.
1219
01:24:17,975 --> 01:24:22,020
Our recovery plan will invest in
electronic health records, a new
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01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:27,921
technology that will reduce errors, bring
down costs, ensure privacy and save lives.
1221
01:24:28,140 --> 01:24:31,780
It will launch a new effort to conquer a
disease that has touched the life of
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01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:37,100
nearly every American, including me,
by seeking a cure for cancer in our time.
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