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(plastic bag rustling)

(man speaking in a foreign language)

(man speaking in a foreign language)

(gentle music)

- Here are some,

books I made.

Actually this is the first one from 1995.

I did it together with my
close friend (indistinct)

That was my first really
big project called,

"Decadence: In Morbid Colors", in 2006.

It was book in exhibition in
the Municipal House in Prague.

And actually the next was a,

quite big project as well,

also dealing with decadence
of course, what else?

Called "Decadence Now! Visions of Excess"

and it was in Rudolfinum in Prague

but it had dealt with the
decadence in contemporary culture.

So we had works by
Mapplethorpe, (indistinct),

Cindy Sherman

and others.

This record was made in 2009,
and it was also like a part

of the wider project, it
was exhibition in Brussels,

and I asked (indistinct)

to do, like a remix

of very famous song by Serge
Gainsbourg, "La Décadanse"

And he had asked Monica
(indistinct) to work with him

and they made like a 60 minute
long remix of that song,

and we decided to have
it on record, you know.

Because I'm that vinyl generation,

all the music I started
to listen as a teenager

was on vinyls.

And, I still think that
the sound is better.

And I like it as a object

because you can combine art and music,

because if you have this format

you can really do much more
than with a small format of CD.

(music scratching)

(upbeat music)

(saxophone playing)

(upbeat music)

(man speaking in foreign language)

(audience clapping)

- I remember that once the university,

someone asked us if we would be interested

in joining the Communist Party.

I just replied to the guy,
"Can you imagine that someone

like me would be member
of Communist Party?"

And that person look at me and said,

"No, I cannot imagine that."

(man speaking in foreign language)

But even I was young boy,

I felt that there is something different.

Is something strange and not normal.

It touched our family.

My father had certain problems in his job,

for almost 10 years he
was not allowed to teach.

And so it was like there was no presence,

there was no future, there
was no past, you know?

Every day was the same,

in Czech it would be
(indistinct) time without time

or time is without content.

We didn't have anything in
common with the culture,

as I understood the term culture.

I understood and I
still understand culture

is something eyeopening, challenging.

Something, what can change your
life, your way of thinking.

(rock music)

- I remember going to this
club called, "The Junior",

It would always be packed.

(rock music playing in the background)

And usually at least third of
the audience would be police.

So, that's going to concerts was.

Foreign bands, no way.

(man laughs)

Together with Unijazz,

we promote this show of Lydia Lunch

who's legendary to us and,
(man laughs)

"Labor of Love", to promote this show.

(rock music)

It's better if you pick them up.

I'm sort of a host,

of the band.

(rock music)

♪ Big whaley wide is on the make again ♪

♪ He thought he paid his
dues but he's in debt again ♪

- We could see on Soviet television,

which we can receive
here in Czechoslovakia,

that the regime in Soviet Union got loose.

And that's actually
where I first time saw,

a video, promotional video
for teenage riot song

by Sonic Youth, it was
on Soviet TV in 1987, 88.

And, so it was like, "Whoa,
something is changing."

But if I could

see myself promoting these bands?

No.

(rock music)

(indistinct)

♪ (indistinct) on the telephone ♪

♪ (indistinct) I warned
you it would come to this ♪

(indistinct)

Oh, let me show you something.

Look at this.

♪ I warned you it would come to this ♪

♪ All of your friends are
so sick of this shit ♪

(rock music)

(man knocking)

(man speaking in foreign language)

(both speaking in foreign language)

(man laughs)

- So these are the works from
the last three, four months.

And as a group it will be exhibited

in Paris this fall, in December.

And it's completely new
chip train Joseph's career.

There's not so many other
artists besides Joseph who we are

like constantly following this direction.

And that for him they're
important influences

like the industrial bands from late 80s,

(speaking in a foreign language)

which showed that the
industrial surroundings

can have its own specific beauty you know,

which people didn't see because
they didn't want to see,

because they associated this
functionalist industrial

landscapes with normalization
with a communist regime.

(punk music)

One of the basic feelings
of the 80s is isolation.

To be intentionally
isolated from the world

which was outside.

Music somehow opened that space for me.

Music which I liked at the time

had always some kind of
connection with other art forms,

you know.
So from the music,

my interest spread to cinematography,

visual arts, literature.

What I liked about the underground

or alternative scene of the 80s

was that, these people
didn't want to have anything

to do with the regime.

They even didn't want to protest against.

We wanted to ignore it.

We want it to behave
like it doesn't exist.

We didn't watch TV, we
didn't listen radio.

So were trying to cut
all the possible relation

with that culture and to be
there living in sort of small

subculture communities.

(rock music)

- Football, especially in European terms,

to root for a certain club
there's also a political choice.

Here in Prague, the most
famous is, "Sparta".

And the communists of course
will like promoting "Sparta",

as a communist team.

"Bohemians", were mostly intellectuals.

So no wonder that people in
descents of the 70s and 80s,

were fans of "Bohemians" too.

And when in 1983, when we won the title,

the descend was heavily celebrating it.

It was actually a political thing.

The name of the stadium is "Ďolíček".

This says "Ďolíček nedáme!", it means,

"We don't give Ďolíček up!"

On the other side on the right, it says,

"Ďolíček more than a stadium".

And it's true.

This feels like home.

(fans singing foreign language)

(crowd cheering and singing)

(rock music)

(band singing in a foreign language)

- About my roots.

My roots are,

at home we had a lot of
music from recordings.

Like classical music and I
was going for the concerts,

with my parents.

So I started to play guitar.

I was bored with the pop music,

I didn't understand it, you know.

I got a recording of
this English punk music,

and something broke in me and I said,

"Oh, that's what I'm
dreaming about all the time."

(punk music)

Simple in the technical way

but big in the social and emotional way.

We started with a band (indistinct)

I was 18 or 19,

and the others were 3 or
4 years younger than me,

so we were like children.

We started in 79,

the problem with the
police started in 1982.

(punk music)

We started to have some
influence in the society

very quickly.

There was a article about
the "Czech Alternative Scene"

in a new musical express magazine.

It looked like it's
too much for the police

that we are connected
with some foreign country.

So they wanted me to stop
playing, which I said,

"Okay, I will stop playing."

But in 2 weeks I was
playing again because,

when you are 18 you
don't mind very much that

if you had to go to the
prison, it was like, "Okay."

The life was not so interesting
in Prague in the time,

so, maybe the prison is
much more interesting.

(punk music)

(woman singing in a foreign language)

- Punk was this first historical platform

where women could join in.

I had no idea.

I thought it is the
most natural thing like,

you have your friend and you
started band with the friend.

We had no idea that in Britain
there were, "The Slits",

and "The Raincoats", at the same time,

the early 80s were doing
absolutely the same thing as us.

These records never made
it across the Iron Curtain.

We didn't have like
really much to work with.

We rehearsed at home,
we didn't have a place.

Instead of drums, had carton boxes.

And I bought for the hub, picking money,

Galaxy's electric guitar, which
I connected to a gramophone.

(punk music)

(woman singing in a foreign language)

Then we were asked to have a concert.

And, it was the first one
was at (indistinct) 007

with when "Garáž" wanted to play with us.

So they invited us and they called us.

(speaking foreign language)

(laughing)

And then because we were
such armatures we had no,

of course permissions.

We didn't know that you're
supposed to have permission.

And then "Garáž" was banned.

Like, because they had us
without a permission playing.

It must've been 81 or 82.

After 83 it kind of got
better, after the scandal

with the "Tribunal" article,
where the so-called new wave

and punk was attacked as
this anti-socialist thing.

Then it kind of got easier around 84, 85.

The scene was thriving,

it seemed like everyone around
us was creating something.

It was like a really joyful time.

(punk music)

(man singing in a foreign language)

- I was lucky that I had friends
who had similar interests.

So we were sharing the information,

knowledge, connections.

So it was sort of like a
network which was maybe small,

but there was many networks
like that, you know.

And all this one small group was connected

through one person with another one.

So then we knew about some
other people who we never met,

but we knew about them.

We knew that they had
these records or source.

So we were sort of exchanging
records with people

who we never met before.

(man speaking in a foreign language)

- With vinyl,

it's a ritual.

You gotta make time, and you
start with the art cover,

you know.

Packaging, look at it, it's nice,

and then, you have to like, pull it out.

Sometimes you have to fight
against static electricity.

See?

It's stuck to it.

An album by my friends,
"Please The Trees".

And I'm proud of
contributing to it actually.

This is first time I am going
to hear this record from vinyl

because it just came out,
and I just brought it home.

Let's see then.

(rock music)

♪ Have you heard the news ♪

♪ And it's here, other- ♪

The 80s, it was like total darkness,

people couldn't, you know, buy
records, listen to anything.

You got this record by, "The Cure".

It's a singles collection.

They put out, I think it was 85, 86.

And I got this at (indistinct)

and almost lost it when running away,

before cops were able to get us.

That's, the sum is that tape,

and I got it from a friend
of mine (indistinct)

in

1987 I think,

I was 14.

Yeah, so this is how it came out.

This was the release.

(laughing)

And then "Psí vojáci", one
of the earliest releases

in our country.

(joyful music)

(man speaks in foreign language)

(rock music)

(man speaking in a foreign language)

(man shouting in a foreign language)

(anticipatory music)

(people chanting)

(people talking)

(men speaking in a foreign language)

- [Interviewer] What's the importance

of getting the information out?

- Because here for 40 years

exists only the state
monopoly of information,

very strong censorship.

And sometimes we are surprised

how it was influential,

how do people don't
understand what to do is.

Now the communist
institution doesn't worked

and we are independent group
of people, but some people,

especially these people, maybe
I can say ordinary people,

man from the street, he
doesn't understand it.

He's going to ask us what to do.

He's waiting for orders
and we want to change this.

And I'm sure that we can change it

with the free information.

(rock music)

(man singing in foreign language)

(crowd clapping)

(rock music continues)

(crowd clapping)

(crowd chanting)

(man speaking in a foreign language)

(rock music)

(upbeat music)

- Yes.

Good.

And the poster was done by Jamie Reid

whose work I exhibited in the
"Decadence Now", exhibition.

And I've got email from
him with this picture.

So I feel like,

I have to put on public.

So I'll do it in the village.

- Free Pussy Riot?

- Mh-mm.

(men speaking in foreign language)

(lock clanking)

Welcome to our local library.

It's the only public space
in the village of Kováry,

and I'm local librarian.

And because no one was
visiting library originally,

so with some other neighbors,
we decided to bring here

refrigerators and fill
them with adult beverages,

to attract the readers.

This painting was done by one
of my students from Chicago,

from "The Art Institute",
who visited Kováry

and one evening he made a
painting of the locals sitting,

and I have to put this poster
somewhere on a visible place.

(paper rustling)

(indistinct)

I found out that this is the
place I can place my roots.

Living in the concrete
building in Prague, you know,

what kind of roots you can
have there, but you know,

living in the old house

is the place I can associate myself with.

We are now at the (indistinct)

one of very important historical
sites in the Czech lands.

Now it's deserted and, I
like it sort of deserted

because anytime you come
during the weekdays or weekend,

you are alone and you
hardly can meet anybody.

So it's nice place for feeling
alone and feeling the past,

the presence and the future as well.

Well, once I'll be here.

In the summer 1989, it was
two, three months before

the political changes in Czechoslovakia.

And I was applying for several
year for some state allowance

to go to Austria, and I never got it.

And then at the end of 80s was a chance

that if some foreigner put
some money into Czech bank,

they can give you certain
allowance to travel.

So some friends of my dad did it.

So I went for 2 weeks, to
Austria, I was in Vienna.

But I remember that feeling,

when I was getting back
home, in the train,

I bought some records in
Vienna at that moment,

and like a "Lou Reed Velvet Underground",

"Clash" and "Sex Pistols" and so on.

And I will remember forever
that feeling at the border

when police came over and
was checking, you know,

what do we have and what
kind of stuff we are taking

and so on.

I think, or that's why I have
that kind of strange feeling

on border until now.

(dramatic anticipatory music)

(man singing in a foreign language)

If you would ask me 20 years ago,

what would happen actually
during those 20 years,

I would never think that
the things which happened

will happen.

Everything changed completely,
traveling professionally.

Any dreams I had about my work,

I knew that under the previous
regime would never happened.

- I was walking with a few
people from my university,

with (indistinct) and other
friends from that direction.

And we saw a lot of
happy people around us.

It was just feeling of happiness before

they, beat us on the corner.

- But it was also feeling that

for the first time in my life, I felt,

that some history is happening.

So I just finished university

in September, 89.

And I started to work in
the (indistinct) institute

and on the 17th, I went with my girlfriend

who is now my wife,

and mother of those kids,
to the demonstration.

And at the end of the
situation, we did get to,

(speaking in a foreign language)

street here.

This place became, the next day,

sort of like the unofficial memorial,

because the worse beating
did happen actually,

in this corridor.

So already the next day,
people just came here

to burn a candles and so on, you know.

- It was just open corridor.

- Yeah.

- The doors are new.

- The doors are new.

- There was a lot of dogs and policeman.

- But people they're
trapped here and from here,

there was no chance to escape so,

the worse beating was here.

(children talking in the street)

This was only the chance
to leave the place

through this street.

But there was the corridor
with the police with a sticks

and they were beating people.

And we were lucky because
we did get to the door,

and someone did open the
apartment then we all went in

and was there for like an hour and half.

And it was scary because we
switch off all the lights

and we are completely silent.

There was no chance to talk

because the police was
running around the house,

looking for the hidden people.

After 89, you know,

those first two straight
years in case of culture,

everything was possible.

And then the things somehow
settled and it was not so easy,

you know, it changed, you know.

But of course we didn't know at the time

that we are living in
sort of almost absolute

kind of freedom, you know,

which turned to be controlled,
as it's ever there, you know.

But of course, the things
like traveling and other stuff

it's okay, but we are
controlled by many other things

which we didn't realize.

We were not thinking about, you know,

business, advertisement, you know.

All the things which are
connected with that, you know.

We are feeling fear free
but actually we're not.

(man speaking in a foreign language)

(upbeat music)

(men speaking in a foreign language)

(crowd clapping and cheering)

(men speaking in a foreign language)

(rock music)

(men speaking in a foreign language)

- And if we have an Soviet
troops in the audience,

you may dance off to this.

(rhythmic music)

(crowd clapping)

(rhythmic music)

- My father, and two of his
friends bought this house

as a sort of escape from
Prague from inside to inside,

not outside as I did
escape, like later on.

I was supposed to open
a bar or Borat maybe,

something like (indistinct)

Actually (indistinct) in
Manhattan, but in the same time,

I was preparing that, the revolution came.

So I say like, "Why not do it here?

Maybe I can help something
with it." (chuckles)

And then I was like this
crazy Americanized Czech

who's coming back from America

and telling everybody what
to do and not to do.(scoffs)

Because that revolution
was actually about drinking

for another 5 years or 10 years.

And I say, "Yeah", I heard
about this rehearsal place

in a small house there,

at the corner of the old town."

I mean the Malá Strana of Prague

and that there is a pretty wild place

and it's called Újezd.

(upbeat music)

(man singing in a foreign language)

Every Thursday, every
Friday and every Saturday,

the capacity of the house
was about 250 people at once,

including the rock room
and two spoon bars.

And we have to like, let
4 people out, 4 people in,

and there was a line of 200
people outside, just having fun,

you know, standing, waiting maybe for two,

three hours to get in,

because the programs were
like four, five bands.

The bands, it's funny
because, one band had to leave

and the other one had to
wait outside and get into,

while the other one is
already out because,

there was no room.
(laughing)

But we did things like
poetry readings there.

We did theater pieces.

That time, it was so funny,
like to go downstairs

and hear like some, you know,
pogo-punk music downstairs,

and people like fucking
high, drinking a beer.

And then making love in the well there

where (indistinct) was sitting, you know,

and then you go to the rock center

and there is "Velvet Revival"

or classic rock and roll bands playing

or something like that.

And then you go upstairs and there is

(speaking foreign language)
playing Irish songs, you know,

by the table,

(indistinct) is dancing on a table.

It's like some sort of
the tapes like, okay,

let's say "Too Short", "Talking Heads".

This is all music was played there.

Psí vojáci.

Then we have a modern
time in 1992, I guess.

(locks clanking)

I purchased a few CD players.

A lot of good music from
New York that I took.

I actually took from
New York a lot. (laughs)

This is originally rap mixed.

I was deejay usually from
some of the tape players.

It was bizarre deejaying,
but we had people there

like musicians.

They really like, like the
new hip hop scene of Prague

like (indistinct), Strýčka Homeboye.

They're just 14 year old guys, you know,

who like to drink in the night.

And there were no hip-hop
club in Prague or something.

There was no place like that.

The "Tiger Lilies", they were
pretty regular in that time.

This is their first tour, I think.

These are the regular program
posters from every month.

Va-bank is a band from Moscow,

Insania is a hardcore band
from Brno, Rononc (indistinct)

I really, because before that
I escaped, I really like,

and enjoy to travel and to meet people

and all kinds of
nationalities and all world.

But it would happen then
later and I like in Borat

was that the whole world was coming to me.

So I learned to travel in my mind

and meeting the people there, you know.

(tapes rattling)
Yeah.

Enough!
(thud)

- These like years of early 90s is,

like one long party and
I have tons of memories,

but I don't know was it in Borat,

was it in (indistinct),
was it somewhere else?

It just happened.
(soft background music)

We had such a clear
perspective on, the regime.

I think we were able to
recognize soon after 1989,

that the new system, new regime
has many similar qualities

as the previous one.

One of the differences, the
key difference between pre-89

and after 89 is that no one was arrested

because of the music
or literature or films.

But the enthusiasm was just
at the beginning of the 90s

from alternative current
culture and everything,

disappeared actually quite soon.

You know, I think the
situation was not normal.

It's not natural.

And it means that the possibilities

which were at the beginning of 90s,

disappeared quite soon
because of the commercialism.

(rhythmic music)

- Sometime in the early 90s,
I started to bring in bands

over to Prague for shows under
the name, "Scrape Sound".

I came from America in 1992,

and was meeting with people all the time

and in clubs like "007"

and a bunch of people were
talking about the scene,

that there actually isn't any scene,

and that it's necessary to,

bring foreign bands to play here.

So, we actually brought some bands

like "Tar" and "Cows" and others.

Before "Scrape Sound" dropped its ambition

to be a record label, we
did put out some releases

and one of them, first, one
of them, first of them was,

by the band "GNU".

An EP,

on a

red vinyl.

(plastic case rattling)

I actually didn't hear this,

a long time.

Oh man.

(rock music)

Sounds pretty cool.
(rock music)

It's 1996.

"Scrape Sound", is mainly three
people, apart from myself.

It is my good friend Michal Parizek,

who now runs "Full Moon"
magazine as a chief editor,

and my good friend
(indistinct) from the band,

"Please The Trees".

(man speaking foreign language)

- [Man] This is a-(indistinct)

- [Man] Michal.
- Hello hi.

(indistinct) your stage manager.

- Okay, cool.

- Do you wanna see the

backstage manager?
- Backstage manager.

Should we get the hands, stage hands?

Right now.
- Let's look at the-

- Yeah, yeah, all right.
- Right. All right.

(man speaking a foreign language)

- [Man] He's into the same stuff as I am.

I knew I need somebody
to join "Scrape Sound",

because we were just 2
people doing "Scrape Sound",

bringing bands.

I knew right away that he's
the one to be the third one.

So he became part of "Scrape
Sound", but besides that,

he was a musician.

He's a singer.

(rock music)

(crowd cheering)

(indistinct singing)

It's 20 years of "Scrape Sound" tonight.

And we're celebrating with
the show of "Mudhoney".

"Mudhoney" is a band
that's been reason why,

I and couple of other people founded

"Scrape Sound", 20 years ago.

And when I came back to
Prague on my travels in 1992,

I knew I was gonna work
somehow in that music industry

or something like that.

I just wanted to organize some
shows and develop to level

when I could bring Mudhoney over.

(rock music)

We tried to transform something,
whether it was successful

or not, I don't know.

We're still here, still doing this.

We wanted to make the
crowds in sort of way,

but then we realized it's not for us.

So we came back to the underground way,

and they don't try for mainstream anymore

for long years now.

(woman speaking foreign language)

- So this is our very
alternative village gallery.

I am artist, I am living
all my life in Prague.

I do 20 or more years professional art.

And I know lots of artists.

Most of them are my friends.

So that's somehow my know-how,

which I can bring to the village

and show people who live here,

what I know, what I like.

But then for me it was
really great opportunity.

Some offer to make a
illustration or drawings

for the book "Tao", from
the Chinese philosopher,

Lao Tzu.

No, I like this format of drawings,

so I just use Chinese ink
or aquarelle, it's quick.

And now when I have baby,
I haven't really time,

so I need work quickly.

(laughing)

So there's this, (indistinct)
it's for Tao pictures.

These pictures, I would like
to show on my exhibition

in (indistinct) gallery also because,

people have me just like a photographer,

I really liked to draw.

I'm known like person who
manipulate with reality

with photography.

So I continue also this way, you know?

But some photography is, are
normal and some I manipulate.

(soft rhythmic music)
Something pushed me always

to do some kind of experiments.

Beginning of, the middle
of 90s, I make this photo

of open women's legs.

You know, it was some game, playing game

and show, you know, this
place on women's body,

place from where most of us was born,

but we have problematic
relation with displays.

I like confronting people
with these own body,

by these tools of advertisement.

It was also pornography everywhere.

It was something new and this
advertisement was everywhere.

It was something new and
it was big change for us

who live under communism,

where everything looks so gray

and broken, old.

Everything started being more colorful

and it was kind of shock, you know?

Be in this reality we just dreaming about.

So, I think some of my works
from the 90s was about this.

You have this free spirit

from our "Velvet Revolution" inside.

It's still life for me.

It's some kind of war between
generations, you know?

This war about power.

(laughs)

So, you just feel like communist,
they have more power now.

It was maybe always, but
now when I live here,

and I see on the small village
things, it's really bad.

So I think, you know, we cannot sleep

and we must do something, what we can do.

But you are always confront I think,

with this kind of establishment.

(uplifting music)
(dog barking)

- We there after long
time, the third generation,

which in relatively young age

we there about, 20, 21,
22 years old in 1989.

A chance to travel, to see things.

If someone was 30, 35 at that time,

his family, children, and so on.

It was not possible of course,

to take back and travel for
three weeks abroad, you know?

So, there were certain gap of information

and certain gap of experience.

(man speaking in foreign language)

I'm in institution since 2010,

I'm teaching at "The Academy
of Fine Arts", in Prague.

I enjoy to be with the students

and it was probably the
right time for that.

(students talking)

This is my office, or our
office, department office.

(keys rattling)

(indistinct)

(man speaking in foreign language)

(men speaking in foreign language)

- If someone were to tell me 20 years ago

that I would do exhibitions
with (indistinct)

with Jake and Dinos Chapman,

and with others.

I would say, "Wow, it's amazing."

You know, it would be great.

(soft rock music)
I was asked by the director

of (indistinct)

what do I think about the chance to do

like a solo exhibition
of (foreign language)

He asked me, "Do you
think there's enough work

to fill the whole space of the gallery?"

And I realized that yes,

that it's possible to do it.

Especially if there is a
chance to work directly

with the artist and with a studio.

(soft rock music)

In this room are works from 2006,

as this piece called "Deluge"
'til 2011, "The Raft".

Both of the works have
references to our history,

which for me like a continuous
development of pop art.

It's something what really is connected

with the end of our whole (indistinct)

and the olden the generation.

And it's just like the expression

of where the pop art
is nowadays, you know?

As I said, you know,
I was never interested

in being a curator and I don't
consider myself as a curator.

And the reason why I
started to do exhibition

is quite simple that,
my publisher wanted to

do beside the book.

He said that it would be like a better,

from the practical point of view,

to organize also exhibition, you know?

That it's easy here to get
fundings, support, sponsors,

and patrons or whoever else,

if you are doing exhibition
and book, then just book.

Otherwise I would be completely happy

just with writing books.

(gentle upbeat music)

(man singing in a foreign language)

(both men speaking in foreign language)

(car engine rumbling sound effect)

(rock music)

- The system of political
parties and parliament,

and then the authorities.

It's all rut.

It's not functioning properly.

And you can feel it every
day in whatever you do.

Something has to change.

(rock music)

♪ The devil ♪

♪ The devil would've sung rock ♪

I still feel that small cultural
entities be it, you know,

a production group

that puts on small club
gigs for 30 people,

or maybe a little record store.

These very small entities
still have very important role

in what's happening on the scene.

Not only in our country,
but anywhere in the world.

People should start with themselves.

There are also records on this side.

(rock music)

"Scrape Town", is one of these
entities that make sense,

and I like to be part of that (indistinct)

This had to come out

in August, late August 68
or something like that.

The song premiered that
week when the tanks came,

"A prayer for Marta."

That's the song she was
singing at the balconies

in November 89.

That's the song.

And so this is the first (indistinct)

Collectable.

I have it though.

(laughs)

(speaking foreign language)

(upbeat music)

- If I look back, things in
general didn't change much.

The fundamental difference is that

the penetration of political
regime into everyday life,

is now not so intense

and so dramatic,

and so strict as it used to be.

(rhythmic upbeat music)

In certain sense, it's
enormously a huge change.

Politically I'm living now

in very similar intentional isolation

I was living during 80s.

I can do this isolation
without danger for my family.

How I live, what I do in
my life, is not affecting

or limiting possibilities
of my kids, for example.

And that's big difference, you know?

That's why I don't want to say that now,

it is the same as it
used to be 30 years ago,

not at all.

You know? From this
practical point of view.

(gentle music)

But to think that everything is fine

and everything is happy now,

it's of course not true as well.

(sighs)

And maybe for some people,

the present is even more
difficult than before,

because of their needs,

jobs, health, other things.

And that's the whole problem
of so-called democracy.

You hear you have government,

or you have leaders which
reflects the nation.

So I totally don't agree with that.

The general frustration

of contemporary society is so intense.

It's why so many people are telling

that the previous regime was better

or the life was better and so on.

That's why I think art is so
important, because art can

in fact

answer many, very difficult,
social or political questions.

(rhythmic upbeat music)

I am constantly happy that things changed

and they can live life I live,

and fulfilling my dreams step by step.

And I, still have so many
dreams that I have enough work

for 30 years.

(rhythmic music)

(rhythmic upbeat music)

(man singing in foreign language)