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[chuckles] 11 00:00:37,438 --> 00:00:39,773 All right, I could, with check up. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,310 Everybody is in the tooth business. 13 00:00:42,376 --> 00:00:43,811 Come in. 14 00:00:43,877 --> 00:00:45,746 How are you doing today? 15 00:00:45,813 --> 00:00:47,281 Most of my patients... 16 00:00:47,348 --> 00:00:48,649 [tool whirring] 17 00:00:48,716 --> 00:00:50,418 ...have no idea 18 00:00:50,484 --> 00:00:52,653 that I was ever in a band 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,489 [laughs] or any of that. 20 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:57,758 Spent the first part of my life 21 00:00:57,825 --> 00:01:01,462 in front of a bunch of people with my mouth wide open. 22 00:01:01,529 --> 00:01:05,233 Now my patients have their mouths wide open. 23 00:01:05,299 --> 00:01:07,067 [fans cheering] 24 00:01:07,168 --> 00:01:09,937 [emcee] Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together, 25 00:01:10,003 --> 00:01:11,405 Vixen! 26 00:01:11,472 --> 00:01:13,707 [rock music playing] 27 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:39,467 [Janet] We were all part of that hair metal scene. 28 00:01:39,533 --> 00:01:41,369 [rock music playing] 29 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:44,738 It was like all of a sudden being in the major leagues. 30 00:01:50,344 --> 00:01:54,114 In the '80s, hard rock and roll, dominated the charts, 31 00:01:54,182 --> 00:01:57,285 and it was the greatest thing in the world. 32 00:01:57,351 --> 00:02:00,154 People singing your songs, the videos are doing incredible 33 00:02:00,221 --> 00:02:01,655 on MTV. 34 00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:02,956 [Dee] Pants so tight you could tell 35 00:02:03,023 --> 00:02:04,392 I was circumcised. 36 00:02:04,458 --> 00:02:07,395 That's what you do in 1985. 37 00:02:09,263 --> 00:02:12,833 The, the term hair metal. Well... 38 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:15,569 I mean, what does it even mean? 39 00:02:15,636 --> 00:02:17,838 [John] Those dudes with their palm tree hair, 40 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:20,174 settin' chicks on fire in a Ferrari. 41 00:02:20,241 --> 00:02:21,875 I don't know what that means. 42 00:02:21,942 --> 00:02:23,644 [laughs] 43 00:02:23,711 --> 00:02:27,415 [laughs] The hair blowing in those videos. 44 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:29,716 [Taime] There was some pretty hokey shit, 45 00:02:29,783 --> 00:02:31,652 but not all of it. 46 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:34,322 ♪ Shake me all night ♪ 47 00:02:34,388 --> 00:02:36,357 ♪ She said shake me ♪ 48 00:02:36,424 --> 00:02:38,091 ♪ Shake it till... ♪ 49 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,860 [Katherine] The look, the fashion, the hair. 50 00:02:39,927 --> 00:02:41,228 The Aqua Net. 51 00:02:41,295 --> 00:02:42,530 [Janet] You'd take one section 52 00:02:42,596 --> 00:02:44,765 and just spray the Aqua Net on. 53 00:02:44,832 --> 00:02:46,867 And then you'd go to the next section 54 00:02:46,934 --> 00:02:49,337 and spray the Aqua Net on. 55 00:02:51,339 --> 00:02:53,707 [Kip] We became like the darlings on MTV. 56 00:02:53,774 --> 00:02:56,543 ♪ Shake me all night ♪ 57 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:58,212 ♪ She said shake me ♪ 58 00:02:58,279 --> 00:02:59,780 And then, you know, soon after that, 59 00:02:59,847 --> 00:03:01,114 everyone started hating us. 60 00:03:03,417 --> 00:03:06,153 [woman] It got increasingly more absurd. 61 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:11,225 [Lonn] MTV said they're not cool anymore. 62 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:13,861 Which I guess is the kiss of death. 63 00:03:13,927 --> 00:03:17,365 There was definitely a wind of change. [laughs] 64 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:20,534 ♪ Shake me all night ♪ 65 00:03:20,601 --> 00:03:23,871 The rock star dream was gonna die for you, dude. 66 00:03:23,937 --> 00:03:25,005 [Kip] I had had enough. 67 00:03:26,607 --> 00:03:28,776 They just stopped playing it. The end. 68 00:03:28,841 --> 00:03:30,544 [Vicky] People were buzzing about 69 00:03:30,611 --> 00:03:32,880 the Seattle sound. 70 00:03:35,349 --> 00:03:38,252 [Nirvana rock flourish] 71 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:40,220 And it was over. 72 00:03:49,297 --> 00:03:53,000 The dimensions to being a rock star are enormous. 73 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:55,836 You're not a normal human being 74 00:03:55,903 --> 00:03:57,605 if you're a rock star. 75 00:03:57,671 --> 00:04:01,442 You're something out of the side of the box. 76 00:04:01,509 --> 00:04:05,846 When a musician, who's just a dude that has a guitar, 77 00:04:05,913 --> 00:04:09,517 and he's playing it in his room somewhere in Akron, Ohio, 78 00:04:09,583 --> 00:04:12,753 looks in the mirror one morning and says, 79 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:17,325 "You know what, I'm not just a guitar player. 80 00:04:17,391 --> 00:04:19,993 I'm not just a guy who flips burgers. 81 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:21,661 I'm a rock star." 82 00:04:21,728 --> 00:04:24,765 Now then the shift happens, 83 00:04:24,832 --> 00:04:27,935 and all of a sudden all these new elements come in. 84 00:04:28,001 --> 00:04:30,971 Well, they are carrying a burden 85 00:04:31,038 --> 00:04:33,374 that not the rest of us are carrying. 86 00:04:33,441 --> 00:04:35,509 They're unique. 87 00:04:35,576 --> 00:04:37,210 They are not of this world. 88 00:04:37,277 --> 00:04:38,879 [men speaking indistinctly] 89 00:04:38,946 --> 00:04:40,814 [drums riffing] 90 00:04:42,783 --> 00:04:45,719 - [man 1 vocalizes] - [man 2 vocalizes] 91 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:47,888 - [man 3] You want a beer? - [Sabo] You got beer? Yes! 92 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:49,557 - You want a beer? - Of course I do. 93 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:52,025 [woman laughs] I almost sat on it, and realized... 94 00:04:52,092 --> 00:04:54,161 [Sabo] I've been taking them to school in the morning. 95 00:04:54,227 --> 00:04:55,329 - [man 3] Yeah. - [Sabo] But one of our songs 96 00:04:55,396 --> 00:04:56,797 would come on the radio, 97 00:04:56,897 --> 00:04:59,567 and my daughter is like, "Snaky? That's you." 98 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:01,068 - [man 3] That's awesome. - Yeah, it's fantastic. 99 00:05:01,134 --> 00:05:02,403 [man 3] That is awesome. 100 00:05:02,536 --> 00:05:03,971 [riffing electric guitar with no power] 101 00:05:04,037 --> 00:05:06,374 [people chattering] 102 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,177 [Sabo] One of my older brothers had a $40 guitar 103 00:05:10,243 --> 00:05:12,813 from the Sears and Roebuck catalog. 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,583 And the "Quick Picking, Fun Strumming Home Guitar Course." 105 00:05:15,649 --> 00:05:17,184 - [man 1] Three minutes to show. - [man 2 vocalizing] 106 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:18,486 [man 1] You guys ready to rock? 107 00:05:18,552 --> 00:05:20,120 Yes, sir. 108 00:05:20,253 --> 00:05:22,690 [Sabo] And I started out playing on one string. 109 00:05:22,756 --> 00:05:25,759 But I was like, "Holy crap, this sound." 110 00:05:25,826 --> 00:05:27,495 [crowd cheering] 111 00:05:27,561 --> 00:05:29,329 [man speaks indistinctly] 112 00:05:29,397 --> 00:05:30,898 [band starts playing rock song] 113 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:32,933 [crowd cheering] 114 00:05:35,569 --> 00:05:38,672 I knew that music was my future. 115 00:05:38,739 --> 00:05:41,274 [rock music playing] 116 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:44,412 The allure of being a rock star 117 00:05:44,478 --> 00:05:46,447 when I was growing up 118 00:05:46,514 --> 00:05:50,050 was this larger than life idea, 119 00:05:50,117 --> 00:05:52,386 a superhero in a sense. 120 00:05:55,589 --> 00:05:59,893 I'm this strange kid from Sayreville, New Jersey. 121 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:02,062 I've got a job in this music store. 122 00:06:02,129 --> 00:06:04,732 One day, I see this guy walk in, 123 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:08,902 he just looked like a rock star. 124 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:10,971 I said, "You want to come up and jam?" 125 00:06:11,038 --> 00:06:14,608 We had such a great time playing together. 126 00:06:14,675 --> 00:06:17,745 We would write until five, six in the morning 127 00:06:17,811 --> 00:06:19,079 and then wake up at eight o'clock 128 00:06:19,146 --> 00:06:21,081 to go to our day jobs. 129 00:06:21,148 --> 00:06:22,816 And we were relentless. 130 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:24,885 We were rehearsing every night. 131 00:06:24,952 --> 00:06:27,120 If we weren't rehearsing, we were writing music. 132 00:06:27,187 --> 00:06:28,989 Good wasn't good enough. 133 00:06:29,056 --> 00:06:30,624 You had to be great. 134 00:06:30,691 --> 00:06:32,325 And if you were great, 135 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:36,564 maybe you would get that all-elusive record deal. 136 00:06:38,365 --> 00:06:40,233 I had the distinct advantage 137 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:42,903 of my friend Jon Bon Jovi living up the street from me. 138 00:06:42,970 --> 00:06:44,371 [playing rock music] 139 00:06:46,974 --> 00:06:48,509 He's several years older than me. 140 00:06:48,576 --> 00:06:49,977 I love to say that. 141 00:06:50,043 --> 00:06:51,645 [rock music playing] 142 00:06:51,712 --> 00:06:53,947 Jon had been paying attention 143 00:06:54,014 --> 00:06:56,984 and listening to our music and giving us advice. 144 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:59,119 I get a phone call from Jon, 145 00:06:59,186 --> 00:07:00,621 "Come up to my mom's house. 146 00:07:00,688 --> 00:07:02,756 I want you to meet my manager." 147 00:07:02,823 --> 00:07:04,124 "Well, who is your manager?" 148 00:07:04,191 --> 00:07:06,494 "My manager is Doc McGhee." 149 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,295 "Oh, my God, I know that name. 150 00:07:08,361 --> 00:07:09,797 It's on the back of Motley Crue's 151 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,199 'Too Fast for Love'". 152 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:14,868 They're in the backyard hanging out by the pool, 153 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:18,205 and there's this myth of a man. 154 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:19,473 This is my moment. 155 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:20,808 Take it. 156 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:23,443 I start going, 157 00:07:23,511 --> 00:07:26,346 "I'm the best guitar player around here. 158 00:07:26,413 --> 00:07:28,448 I am going to be a big star. 159 00:07:28,516 --> 00:07:30,383 I'm going to have the greatest band in the world," 160 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:31,885 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 161 00:07:31,952 --> 00:07:34,287 "And you're going to manage me some day." 162 00:07:34,354 --> 00:07:37,024 He looks at me, takes a little breath and goes, 163 00:07:37,090 --> 00:07:39,793 "That's a great story. You want to go get me a beer?" 164 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:41,328 [rock music playing] 165 00:07:42,763 --> 00:07:45,098 I just went... [makes falling noise] 166 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:51,505 [guitar strumming] 167 00:07:51,572 --> 00:07:53,507 [man 1] I'm just sitting there waiting, man, like this. 168 00:07:53,574 --> 00:07:56,109 - [man 1] Beautiful song. - [man 2] Can we go in there? 169 00:07:56,176 --> 00:07:58,411 [man speaks indistinctly] 170 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:00,247 Wanna put a little acoustic down? 171 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:01,615 [John] Sure. 172 00:08:02,616 --> 00:08:03,717 [groans] 173 00:08:09,089 --> 00:08:11,892 [John] I'm John Corabi, singer, 174 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:14,427 guitar player, songwriter 175 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,964 from just every band but ABBA. 176 00:08:17,030 --> 00:08:18,131 [laughs] 177 00:08:18,198 --> 00:08:19,832 [rock music playing] 178 00:08:22,636 --> 00:08:24,304 [John] I don't know what I'm doing now, 179 00:08:24,371 --> 00:08:26,740 if it's the right thing or the wrong thing, 180 00:08:26,807 --> 00:08:28,308 I'm just doing a song. 181 00:08:28,375 --> 00:08:30,077 I let it sit for two or three months. 182 00:08:30,143 --> 00:08:32,212 I just put a new song out. 183 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:34,147 And let that sit for another couple months. 184 00:08:34,213 --> 00:08:36,082 - You could put a four songs... - Five. 185 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:38,485 and then package a little eight song album. 186 00:08:38,552 --> 00:08:40,721 - [Marti] You know? - "Thriller" was eight songs. 187 00:08:40,788 --> 00:08:42,789 - [John] Was it? - Yeah. 188 00:08:42,856 --> 00:08:44,224 - "Thriller"? - Yeah. 189 00:08:44,290 --> 00:08:46,994 - Are you fucking kidding me? - No. 190 00:08:47,060 --> 00:08:48,395 [John] I think with this one 191 00:08:48,461 --> 00:08:49,663 I should be able 192 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:51,464 to buy a bottle of Jameson 193 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:53,000 with the royalties. 194 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:54,568 - I'm a huge fan. - That's a success. 195 00:08:54,635 --> 00:08:55,803 - I don't know. - [man laughs] 196 00:08:55,869 --> 00:08:57,337 I don't-- I don't even know 197 00:08:57,404 --> 00:08:58,906 what the word means anymore. 198 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,408 [dramatic theme playing] 199 00:09:03,210 --> 00:09:06,513 [John] I'm originally from Philadelphia. 200 00:09:06,580 --> 00:09:09,116 Nobody in my family was musical, 201 00:09:09,182 --> 00:09:12,019 but there was music always playing in the house. 202 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:15,989 I was fascinated with the Beatles. 203 00:09:16,056 --> 00:09:19,526 One year, I just came downstairs, and my parents, 204 00:09:19,593 --> 00:09:20,861 I think they tried to cover 205 00:09:20,928 --> 00:09:23,030 both ends of the spectrum with me. 206 00:09:23,096 --> 00:09:25,933 I had a guitar, 207 00:09:25,999 --> 00:09:27,500 and a microscope. 208 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:28,969 "Let's get him a guitar. 209 00:09:29,036 --> 00:09:30,771 Maybe that will do the creative thing, 210 00:09:30,838 --> 00:09:32,472 but hopefully he'll go in this direction 211 00:09:32,539 --> 00:09:34,507 and be like a doctor or something." 212 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:36,409 And they failed miserably on that one. 213 00:09:38,545 --> 00:09:40,380 I wanted to be a rock star. 214 00:09:40,447 --> 00:09:43,216 [playing rock music] 215 00:09:47,387 --> 00:09:49,790 In Philadelphia, I went from this band 216 00:09:49,857 --> 00:09:51,725 to that band, to that band, 217 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:53,661 to that band, and I just graduated 218 00:09:53,727 --> 00:09:57,597 to a really popular band, Angora. 219 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:01,334 And we just started plugging away 220 00:10:01,401 --> 00:10:02,770 and playing, writing. 221 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:07,507 Some of the guys went out to L.A., 222 00:10:07,574 --> 00:10:10,010 telling us there's 50 clubs 223 00:10:10,077 --> 00:10:14,547 where you can play original rock music. 224 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,684 "We got to go to L.A." 225 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:19,419 ♪ Standing on the corner ♪ 226 00:10:19,486 --> 00:10:22,155 Hollywood, USA, baby! 227 00:10:22,222 --> 00:10:24,692 Come on. Let's go. I'm a ham. I'm a ham. 228 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:26,593 Yeah! 229 00:10:28,095 --> 00:10:32,933 The Sunset Strip was pure insanity. 230 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,536 Those two blocks from The Whisky to Doheny... 231 00:10:38,438 --> 00:10:41,842 was wall-to-wall palm tree hair, 232 00:10:41,909 --> 00:10:43,543 long jackets, 233 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:45,278 girls in lingerie, 234 00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:46,780 fishnet stockings, 235 00:10:46,847 --> 00:10:48,281 high heels, 236 00:10:48,348 --> 00:10:49,883 dudes with as much makeup on 237 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:51,151 as their chicks. 238 00:10:52,953 --> 00:10:56,857 Angora moved to L.A., 239 00:10:56,924 --> 00:11:00,060 and we just started plugging away. 240 00:11:00,127 --> 00:11:01,294 Maybe get a record deal. 241 00:11:02,863 --> 00:11:04,097 It's the golden ticket. 242 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:05,799 [rock music playing] 243 00:11:10,037 --> 00:11:14,241 [Janet] I was and still am very shy. 244 00:11:14,307 --> 00:11:15,976 I would never have mentioned, 245 00:11:16,043 --> 00:11:18,211 "I want to be a rock star." 246 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:20,647 [chuckles] No. 247 00:11:20,714 --> 00:11:22,816 [dramatic theme playing] 248 00:11:22,883 --> 00:11:24,818 I grew up in Bozeman, Montana. 249 00:11:26,019 --> 00:11:29,456 My parents were Mormon. 250 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:33,060 As young Mormon women, young ladies, 251 00:11:33,126 --> 00:11:38,098 we were supposed to be groomed to be good wives and mothers. 252 00:11:38,465 --> 00:11:41,068 We would learn how to brush our hair, 253 00:11:41,134 --> 00:11:43,403 and put on makeup 254 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:45,572 and look attractive, 255 00:11:45,638 --> 00:11:48,909 and learn how to cook and do all that kind of stuff. 256 00:11:50,343 --> 00:11:51,945 I definitely knew I didn't fit 257 00:11:52,012 --> 00:11:53,747 in that whole thing. 258 00:11:53,981 --> 00:11:58,685 [laughs] There was something, something amiss about all that. 259 00:11:58,752 --> 00:12:00,988 When I first started to get into rock, 260 00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:03,156 I remember checking out female bands. 261 00:12:03,223 --> 00:12:07,861 ♪ It's hard to live when you're by yourself ♪ 262 00:12:07,928 --> 00:12:09,763 [Janet] I remember checking out Fanny. 263 00:12:09,830 --> 00:12:12,499 ♪ Free, free spirit ♪ 264 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:14,434 There was a band called Birtha. 265 00:12:14,501 --> 00:12:16,669 ♪ I got a free ♪ 266 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,705 [The Go-Go's "We Got the Beat"] 267 00:12:18,772 --> 00:12:19,840 And, of course, The Go-Go's. 268 00:12:19,907 --> 00:12:21,842 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 269 00:12:21,909 --> 00:12:24,011 - ♪ We got the beat ♪ - ♪ We got the beat ♪ 270 00:12:24,077 --> 00:12:26,847 ♪ Hello, world, I'm your wild girl ♪ 271 00:12:26,914 --> 00:12:28,015 ♪ Like a ch-ch-ch... ♪ 272 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,482 The Runaways... 273 00:12:29,549 --> 00:12:30,717 ♪ Cherry bomb! ♪ 274 00:12:30,784 --> 00:12:32,319 But there were very few. 275 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:33,854 But they were all really good. 276 00:12:33,921 --> 00:12:36,990 So it was like, girls can do this. 277 00:12:37,057 --> 00:12:39,459 These are The Young Americans. 278 00:12:39,526 --> 00:12:42,462 ♪ Shenandoah, Shenandoah ♪ 279 00:12:42,529 --> 00:12:45,165 I ended up going to see The Young Americans. 280 00:12:45,232 --> 00:12:46,665 I was blown away. 281 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:49,036 They were like my age... 282 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,971 ♪ Oh, I vow to thee ♪ 283 00:12:51,038 --> 00:12:53,140 ...doing amazingly slick, 284 00:12:53,206 --> 00:12:54,707 professional performing. 285 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:56,509 ♪ Shenandoah ♪ 286 00:12:56,643 --> 00:12:59,980 Afterwards, they were running around out in the halls. 287 00:13:00,047 --> 00:13:01,514 I said, "Wow, I was blown away. 288 00:13:01,581 --> 00:13:03,050 You are all so talented. 289 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:04,885 This was amazing." 290 00:13:04,952 --> 00:13:07,087 They're like, "You should audition." 291 00:13:07,154 --> 00:13:08,989 The director came out. 292 00:13:09,056 --> 00:13:12,225 He said, "Just sing me a song that you like." 293 00:13:12,292 --> 00:13:15,028 So out of nowhere, I picked a Bonnie Raitt song, 294 00:13:15,095 --> 00:13:18,065 and he was like, "Oh, you know, you have a great voice." 295 00:13:18,131 --> 00:13:19,232 [crowd whooping] 296 00:13:19,299 --> 00:13:20,667 I crossed my fingers, 297 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:22,569 and sure enough, I got picked. 298 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:25,205 ♪ I've seen it all and how do I make you? ♪ 299 00:13:25,272 --> 00:13:27,040 ♪ How do I make you? ♪ 300 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:29,376 The Young Americans, they were based in California, 301 00:13:29,442 --> 00:13:32,045 and I was like, "This is where everything is happening. 302 00:13:32,112 --> 00:13:34,247 This is where I should be." 303 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:36,183 So I called my parents and said, 304 00:13:36,249 --> 00:13:38,185 I'm not coming home. [laughs] 305 00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:40,854 That didn't go over very big. 306 00:13:40,921 --> 00:13:43,023 You know, I quit school without telling 'em. 307 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:44,790 And then I started checking out 308 00:13:44,858 --> 00:13:46,693 the local rock scene. 309 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,929 It was competitive. 310 00:13:48,996 --> 00:13:52,032 Everybody was trying to get the most attention, 311 00:13:52,099 --> 00:13:55,635 trying to get that elusive record deal. 312 00:13:55,702 --> 00:13:57,637 All of the bands that were playing 313 00:13:57,704 --> 00:14:00,874 that scene at the time were getting signed. 314 00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:04,945 If you could draw a good crowd, you could get a record deal. 315 00:14:05,012 --> 00:14:06,813 So who didn't want to be there? 316 00:14:08,248 --> 00:14:10,250 - [man] Let me hear ya. - [electric guitar strumming] 317 00:14:13,553 --> 00:14:17,925 [Kip] I never wanted to be in the L.A. thing. 318 00:14:17,991 --> 00:14:20,260 New York suited me perfectly because it was like, 319 00:14:20,327 --> 00:14:22,795 education center, you know. 320 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,232 It wasn't about sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. 321 00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:26,934 That's never what I was about. 322 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,468 In New York, I can go see 323 00:14:28,535 --> 00:14:30,337 the New York City Ballet one night, 324 00:14:30,403 --> 00:14:32,472 and I can go to Radio City Music Hall 325 00:14:32,539 --> 00:14:34,007 and see something else, and then I can go 326 00:14:34,074 --> 00:14:36,409 to Madison Square Garden and see something. 327 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:38,511 You know, like that was my vibe. 328 00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:43,951 I had a dream very early. 329 00:14:44,017 --> 00:14:45,919 I did my first professional gig at eight, 330 00:14:46,053 --> 00:14:49,689 my guitar broke ten strings, and it was just an awful gig. 331 00:14:50,924 --> 00:14:52,759 But I got paid 30 bucks 332 00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:55,028 and I thought, "I'm in. This is it for me." 333 00:14:56,196 --> 00:14:57,830 I was just a little punk. 334 00:14:57,931 --> 00:15:00,033 I was like, you know, I just wanted to rock. 335 00:15:02,102 --> 00:15:04,271 I lived in Hoboken, 336 00:15:04,337 --> 00:15:07,040 I'd go in the city and take ballet class. 337 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:09,109 I took bass lessons. 338 00:15:09,176 --> 00:15:12,045 A couple composition lessons from a cat from Juilliard. 339 00:15:12,112 --> 00:15:14,681 I was always doing a little bit here 340 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:15,949 and a little bit there. 341 00:15:18,385 --> 00:15:20,220 I was shopping as a solo artist. 342 00:15:20,287 --> 00:15:22,855 For years. 343 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,958 Totally bumming, I mean, it was like, 344 00:15:25,025 --> 00:15:26,994 I'm never going to get anywhere. 345 00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:29,496 - Okay, go. Oh! - [man 2] Oh! We got that. 346 00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:31,965 One of my very good friends, Beau Hill, 347 00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:34,067 had a room in Atlantic Studios. 348 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:37,204 He was producing Ratt, 349 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,672 and he would have me play bass on stuff 350 00:15:39,739 --> 00:15:41,174 and do some background vocals. 351 00:15:43,143 --> 00:15:44,711 So I was kind of like his backup, 352 00:15:44,777 --> 00:15:47,347 like a utility team. 353 00:15:47,414 --> 00:15:48,982 I gave him all these demos 354 00:15:49,082 --> 00:15:50,883 and he kept playing 'em for record companies 355 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,052 that would just keep saying, 356 00:15:52,119 --> 00:15:53,653 "This is terrible," 357 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,189 and "Don't play me anymore Kip Winger." 358 00:15:57,624 --> 00:15:58,825 For the most part, 359 00:15:58,891 --> 00:16:00,360 I was dead in the water. 360 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:02,695 [tense music intensifies] 361 00:16:10,237 --> 00:16:12,005 [man speaks indistinctly] 362 00:16:12,072 --> 00:16:13,573 [Vicky] It's hard to really describe 363 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,977 what it is that makes a band sparkle. 364 00:16:19,512 --> 00:16:23,250 [vocalizing] 365 00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:24,517 Whoops. Sorry. 366 00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:25,952 [vocalizing continues] 367 00:16:26,019 --> 00:16:28,688 It's that hair raising experience 368 00:16:28,755 --> 00:16:30,790 of when you hear their voice. 369 00:16:30,857 --> 00:16:32,892 [vocalizing over speakers] 370 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:41,268 ♪ Hello, world ♪ 371 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:45,205 You just know that they can do it. 372 00:16:45,272 --> 00:16:46,973 [man] That's good. Sounds good, huh? 373 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,241 [Vicky] Yeah. 374 00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:55,115 Ever since I was a child, 375 00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:56,949 I decided that I was going to be 376 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:59,852 the best rock and roll manager on the planet. 377 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:05,325 I managed my first boyfriend's bands. 378 00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:08,961 There just wasn't really an outlet 379 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,997 to go any farther. 380 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,602 I knew I had to save up some money 381 00:17:15,667 --> 00:17:17,470 and move to California. 382 00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:20,507 And that's exactly what I did. 383 00:17:20,573 --> 00:17:22,075 I ended up taking a job 384 00:17:22,142 --> 00:17:23,310 at Licorice Pizza, 385 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,810 which was the record store 386 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:27,513 catty corner from the Whisky a Go-Go. 387 00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:29,849 [indistinct chatter] 388 00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:31,851 If location is everything, 389 00:17:31,918 --> 00:17:33,286 this was the spot. 390 00:17:34,921 --> 00:17:38,291 There was always a concert going on at the Whisky. 391 00:17:38,358 --> 00:17:39,826 It was love at first sight. 392 00:17:39,892 --> 00:17:41,694 [rock music playing] 393 00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:42,929 What's up! 394 00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:44,030 Metalheads! 395 00:17:44,097 --> 00:17:45,498 We're gonna be big some day. 396 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:48,335 [Vicky] Drugs, alcohol, 397 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:50,670 partying, 398 00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:54,040 nonstop music all the time. 399 00:17:54,107 --> 00:17:57,544 There were so many great looking rocker dudes in there. 400 00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:59,779 We didn't have that in Indiana. 401 00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:01,314 [Hamilton laughs] 402 00:18:02,949 --> 00:18:04,517 I ended up meeting Motley Crue 403 00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:07,854 because Nikki Sixx came into my store. 404 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,190 We had a thing called Borrow Book. 405 00:18:10,257 --> 00:18:12,725 Nikki would ask me to get records for him, 406 00:18:12,792 --> 00:18:13,860 and he'd take 'em out, but then he would 407 00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:15,395 never bring the records back. 408 00:18:15,462 --> 00:18:17,497 So then I would end up having to buy them. 409 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:21,234 Motley Crue, when I first met them, 410 00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:22,469 they hadn't been signed. 411 00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:23,970 They were just putting out 412 00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:27,807 their first six inch record. 413 00:18:27,874 --> 00:18:30,009 My manager instinct like kicked in, 414 00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:32,379 and I knew they were going to be huge. 415 00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:33,680 Put them up all through 416 00:18:33,746 --> 00:18:36,082 the Licorice Pizza stores. 417 00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:39,085 Then my boss said, "Those better all sell, 418 00:18:39,152 --> 00:18:41,120 or you're going to lose your job." [laughs] 419 00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:43,423 I had shared with Nikki 420 00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:44,591 that I wanted to be a manager 421 00:18:44,657 --> 00:18:45,992 and I was like, 422 00:18:46,058 --> 00:18:48,161 "Wow, you can, like, work with us." 423 00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:50,530 Management agreements are kind of like marriages. 424 00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:53,099 You don't really know if it's going to work, 425 00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:55,268 until you're actually in it. 426 00:19:08,948 --> 00:19:11,318 [Candy's "The Weekend's Here Again"] 427 00:19:14,287 --> 00:19:16,789 ♪ The weekend's here again ♪ 428 00:19:16,856 --> 00:19:20,126 [Jonathan] I was in a band called Candy. 429 00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:22,729 We wanted to look like four Nikki Sixxes. 430 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:25,698 We all had long, tall, 431 00:19:25,765 --> 00:19:28,201 big black hair. 432 00:19:28,268 --> 00:19:30,403 The bigger the hair, the bigger the paycheck. 433 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:33,540 ♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪ 434 00:19:33,606 --> 00:19:37,043 ♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪ 435 00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:39,646 ♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪ 436 00:19:41,448 --> 00:19:43,283 [Jonathan] We started playing gigs in L.A., 437 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:46,286 but we had no following, we had no friends. 438 00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:49,756 And we didn't really have any idea how to build one. 439 00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:52,759 Nobody had a record deal. 440 00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:54,261 Nobody was on the radio, 441 00:19:54,327 --> 00:19:57,230 so it was really hand-to-hand combat. 442 00:19:57,297 --> 00:20:00,733 ♪ One, two, three, let's go! ♪ 443 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,836 [Craig] Self promotion was the name of the game. 444 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:06,473 Every Friday, Saturday night on the Strip, 445 00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:09,175 every band that wasn't inside the club 446 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:11,010 was outside the club on the sidewalk, 447 00:20:11,077 --> 00:20:12,445 handing out these flyers. 448 00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:14,781 Rock Asylum is a hot band from New York. 449 00:20:14,847 --> 00:20:16,616 [Katherine] Bands would just go hand flyers to women. 450 00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:18,585 That's how you met people. It was really... 451 00:20:18,651 --> 00:20:20,487 pre-Internet, how you found out about a show. 452 00:20:20,553 --> 00:20:22,822 "Oh, come to my show, come to my show." 453 00:20:22,889 --> 00:20:25,124 [Katherine] You've got your flyer, "three dollars off." 454 00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:29,329 Cool, all right. You know, you needed that three dollars off. 455 00:20:29,396 --> 00:20:30,863 [Craig] You would try to find 456 00:20:30,930 --> 00:20:34,133 a color that nobody else was using. 457 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,369 You had to have a really good photo, 458 00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:40,039 sort of sexy or menacing. 459 00:20:40,106 --> 00:20:42,309 And then you would have, like, the name of the band, 460 00:20:42,375 --> 00:20:45,845 so you would need some sort of interesting logo. 461 00:20:45,912 --> 00:20:48,781 And then hopefully you have some dates scheduled, 462 00:20:48,848 --> 00:20:51,183 if you weren't a total poser, 463 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:52,619 and then a ticket hotline 464 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,321 where people could call and be like, 465 00:20:54,387 --> 00:20:57,357 "Hey, this is Tommy from Paradise, 466 00:20:57,424 --> 00:20:59,726 and we're going to rock your ass." 467 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:01,894 [Taime] You had all the poles covered, 468 00:21:01,961 --> 00:21:03,630 the ground covered. 469 00:21:03,696 --> 00:21:05,498 You couldn't see the sidewalk 470 00:21:05,565 --> 00:21:08,501 from Tower Records all the way up to Gil Turner's. 471 00:21:08,568 --> 00:21:10,637 It looked like it was New Year's Eve every night. 472 00:21:11,904 --> 00:21:14,507 [Janet] Poison was the kings 473 00:21:14,574 --> 00:21:16,343 of flyering. 474 00:21:16,409 --> 00:21:18,678 [Vicky] Poison had this whole system worked out 475 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:21,381 where they would go out in the van 476 00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:24,351 and one guy would like stir the glue. 477 00:21:24,417 --> 00:21:26,686 The next guy would put the glue on the poster 478 00:21:26,753 --> 00:21:28,020 and they would do this... 479 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,656 and then they would jump out of the van 480 00:21:29,722 --> 00:21:31,257 and get on each other's shoulders 481 00:21:31,324 --> 00:21:33,993 to put them up high on the poles. 482 00:21:34,060 --> 00:21:36,496 You can't rip 'em down if you can't reach 'em. 483 00:21:36,563 --> 00:21:38,264 And after every concert, 484 00:21:38,331 --> 00:21:40,700 there would be tons of litter 485 00:21:40,767 --> 00:21:42,902 and flyers everywhere. [laughs] 486 00:21:42,969 --> 00:21:46,172 [Jonathan] The Beverly Hills Police cracked down on that. 487 00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:48,875 If you got caught stapling flyers to the telephone poles, 488 00:21:48,941 --> 00:21:50,510 you'd have to do community service, 489 00:21:50,577 --> 00:21:52,044 taking them off. 490 00:21:52,111 --> 00:21:53,913 - [wood creaking] - [Craig] You can't imagine 491 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:56,383 the number of trees that had to die 492 00:21:56,449 --> 00:21:59,018 in the name of metal. 493 00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:13,032 [Janet] I got a job at Guitar Center, 494 00:22:13,099 --> 00:22:16,035 which was another great way to meet musicians. 495 00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:17,937 And at one point, some girl comes up to me 496 00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:21,240 and she goes, "I know a band you'd be perfect for." 497 00:22:23,275 --> 00:22:26,779 So I got a call from a guy who said, 498 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:28,815 "I am the manager of the group 499 00:22:28,881 --> 00:22:30,817 that's looking for a singer." 500 00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:32,385 So I said, "Hmm." 501 00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:33,920 I was looking for suspicious 502 00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:37,590 long haired guys, you know, musician-y types. 503 00:22:37,657 --> 00:22:39,225 I said, "I didn't see anybody." 504 00:22:39,392 --> 00:22:41,794 And he goes, "Yeah, they're right over at the bar." 505 00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:44,564 And it was Jan and Lori. 506 00:22:44,631 --> 00:22:49,436 And I was like, "Oh! It's a girl thing!" 507 00:22:49,502 --> 00:22:50,937 But I had never done that before. 508 00:22:51,003 --> 00:22:54,674 I was always "the girl" in the band. 509 00:22:54,741 --> 00:22:57,644 And we got together and it was a blast. 510 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:58,811 We just hit it off. 511 00:22:58,878 --> 00:22:59,946 I mean, once in a while, 512 00:23:00,012 --> 00:23:01,347 I would smile and stuff, too. 513 00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:02,682 "Get ass!" [vocalizes] 514 00:23:02,749 --> 00:23:04,684 - [growling] - [laughter] 515 00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:06,453 [Janet] We pretty much spent all our time 516 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:10,690 rehearsing and playing the Strip. 517 00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:14,193 We ended up going on the road a lot, though, 518 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:19,198 station wagon, van pulling a U-Haul trailer, 519 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:21,200 playing any place and every place 520 00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:22,869 that we could, from anywhere 521 00:23:22,935 --> 00:23:27,106 from five people to a couple hundred people. 522 00:23:27,173 --> 00:23:29,442 We're going to do whatever we have to do 523 00:23:29,509 --> 00:23:32,211 to get the attention we need to get signed, 524 00:23:32,278 --> 00:23:34,514 make records and be rock stars. 525 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,749 [rock music plays] 526 00:23:48,695 --> 00:23:51,297 The first bit of pip?? overdubbing. 527 00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:52,832 The camera'd been on about three seconds... 528 00:23:52,899 --> 00:23:54,967 and he fucked up! [exaggerated laugh] 529 00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:57,704 While I was waiting tables in Hoboken, New Jersey, 530 00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,972 Beau called me up and said, "Hey, get up here. 531 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,074 We need four songs for Alice Cooper. 532 00:24:02,141 --> 00:24:03,876 I was like, "Oh, my God!" 533 00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:06,212 - [people chattering] - [playing bass line] 534 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:08,214 I was a huge Alice Cooper fan. 535 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,982 A huge Alice Cooper fan. 536 00:24:10,049 --> 00:24:11,818 I knew more about Alice Cooper 537 00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:13,653 then he could remember. 538 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,089 That was like, preparation met with opportunity. 539 00:24:17,156 --> 00:24:20,059 Walked in, playing that shit first take. 540 00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:21,728 It was like, "Yes!" 541 00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,329 You know, just like... 542 00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:25,598 [makes arrow whooshing and hitting target sound] 543 00:24:25,665 --> 00:24:27,333 And so I said, "Alice, man, 544 00:24:27,399 --> 00:24:29,268 if you go out on tour, call me up." 545 00:24:29,335 --> 00:24:32,104 But I remember him going, "Okay, I'll keep that in mind." 546 00:24:32,171 --> 00:24:34,106 But nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. 547 00:24:34,173 --> 00:24:35,542 And then they called me up and said, 548 00:24:35,608 --> 00:24:36,843 "Hey, do you want to do the gig?" 549 00:24:36,909 --> 00:24:38,511 And I was like... 550 00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:39,979 [playing rock music] 551 00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:44,784 I had really short hair. 552 00:24:44,851 --> 00:24:47,186 And they made us get hair extensions, 553 00:24:47,253 --> 00:24:49,689 and then the next day, I've got hair down to here, 554 00:24:49,756 --> 00:24:52,692 and we're all doing the Alice Cooper show biz thing. 555 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:57,429 ♪ For criminal acts and violence on the stage ♪ 556 00:24:57,496 --> 00:25:00,099 Two months before, I was waiting tables. 557 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:02,535 Two months later, got on the stage, 558 00:25:02,602 --> 00:25:04,270 sold out Joe Louis Arena, 559 00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:06,038 live on MTV, 560 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:08,741 20,000 people flipping out, 561 00:25:08,808 --> 00:25:10,643 and I had to get oriented. 562 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:14,581 I was completely losing myself in this, you know, 563 00:25:14,647 --> 00:25:15,915 "Oh, my God, I'm playing bass." 564 00:25:15,982 --> 00:25:19,586 ♪ You can go to hell ♪ 565 00:25:19,652 --> 00:25:22,254 As much as I loved Alice, I felt like, 566 00:25:22,321 --> 00:25:24,557 you know, once a side man, always a side man. 567 00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:26,593 I said that I was leaving, you know, 568 00:25:26,659 --> 00:25:27,960 and everybody was like, "What? You're leaving? 569 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:29,896 Oh, my God, this is a great band, 570 00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:31,731 and we're going to go out on the road for another year," 571 00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,802 and everybody was like, "Wow! What a move!" 572 00:25:35,868 --> 00:25:37,604 It's really hot, so don't blow 573 00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:39,739 your voice out on the first pass. 574 00:25:39,806 --> 00:25:41,173 But it was a pretty cool band, man, 575 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,142 and that's where I met Reb. 576 00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:46,445 ♪ She's so downhearted ♪ 577 00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:49,816 ♪ She's what you want, what you need ♪ 578 00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,484 [Kip] I was like, "Let's start a band, you know. 579 00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:53,853 We should put something together." 580 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,755 ♪ Drops the bomb ♪ 581 00:26:04,196 --> 00:26:07,233 [playing rock music] 582 00:26:14,073 --> 00:26:15,875 [Sabo] We're working. 583 00:26:15,942 --> 00:26:17,810 I'm working at the music store, Rachel and I are writing. 584 00:26:17,877 --> 00:26:19,979 We're rehearsing like crazy. 585 00:26:20,046 --> 00:26:22,849 And Jon, he's getting ready to go on tour. 586 00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:25,117 So he's like, "You want to come out and do three shows?" 587 00:26:25,184 --> 00:26:28,855 And we're like, "No. No, I'd rather, 588 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:31,323 I'd rather sit here and work in the music store 589 00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:33,993 for 12 hours a day and hear kids playing 590 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,828 "Smoke on the Water" and "Stairway to Heaven". 591 00:26:35,895 --> 00:26:38,164 The singer that we had at the time 592 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,399 was this kid named Matt Fallon. 593 00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:45,237 Matt was a good singer, but he wasn't great. 594 00:26:45,304 --> 00:26:47,707 So we go to those shows and we play, 595 00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:50,576 and we think we're the shit. 596 00:26:50,643 --> 00:26:54,313 After the show, Doc McGhee comes in the dressing room, 597 00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:56,548 and goes, "You guys are good. 598 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:58,184 You got really good songs. 599 00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:59,919 Your singer sucks." 600 00:26:59,986 --> 00:27:01,988 I'm like, "Yeah?" 601 00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:03,856 He goes, "You got to get a new singer." 602 00:27:03,923 --> 00:27:07,927 We were auditioning singer after singer after singer. 603 00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:11,931 And we knew that if we could find the right person, 604 00:27:11,998 --> 00:27:14,734 these songs would speak for themselves. 605 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:16,435 [playing rock music] 606 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:22,508 [screams out] 607 00:27:22,574 --> 00:27:26,445 Mark Weiss, who's a very renowned rock photographer, 608 00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:29,015 he has a wedding. 609 00:27:29,081 --> 00:27:30,750 At that wedding, 610 00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:34,220 a young singer by the name of Sebastian Bach. 611 00:27:34,286 --> 00:27:35,587 And he's crazy. 612 00:27:35,654 --> 00:27:37,389 He's like six-foot-twelve 613 00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:39,859 and his hair is outrageous. 614 00:27:39,926 --> 00:27:41,460 But he's an amazing singer. 615 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,965 We sent Sebastian four songs... 616 00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:48,167 - [Sebastian] Huh! - [band playing rock music] 617 00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:54,440 He says he loves the songs. 618 00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:56,542 We're like, "Well, do you want to come down and audition?" 619 00:27:57,977 --> 00:27:59,645 So we fly him in from Toronto, 620 00:27:59,712 --> 00:28:01,247 where he was living, 621 00:28:01,313 --> 00:28:04,650 and shows up at my mom's house. 622 00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:06,986 One of the first things he says, 623 00:28:07,053 --> 00:28:08,154 "Yo, dudes, what's up? 624 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:11,057 I got a nine-inch dick." 625 00:28:11,123 --> 00:28:14,060 And Rachel looks at me, but he says to me, 626 00:28:14,126 --> 00:28:16,996 "He's a great singer, but it's going to be trouble." 627 00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:28,941 [rock music playing] 628 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,112 [John] Angora had a lot of interest 629 00:28:33,179 --> 00:28:35,114 from different labels, 630 00:28:35,181 --> 00:28:37,283 different managers. 631 00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:39,518 Gene Simmons was interested in us. 632 00:28:39,585 --> 00:28:42,922 We did a demo tape with Steve Vai. 633 00:28:43,856 --> 00:28:44,857 So we were getting 634 00:28:44,924 --> 00:28:46,258 a lot of interest. 635 00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,795 [rock music playing] 636 00:28:48,861 --> 00:28:53,465 We had a rehearsal room that was 500 a month. 637 00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:56,668 I was kind of the de facto leader. 638 00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,806 And I'd go, "Okay, I need your... I need your rent money. 639 00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:01,440 It's the first." 640 00:29:01,507 --> 00:29:04,811 Some of the guys would not have their rent money 641 00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:07,780 for rehearsal, but then I'd see them 642 00:29:07,847 --> 00:29:10,549 the next day with a giant bag of weed, 643 00:29:10,616 --> 00:29:13,152 and I just said, "I came out here 644 00:29:13,219 --> 00:29:14,887 to get a record deal. 645 00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:17,123 I came here to be a rock star, 646 00:29:17,189 --> 00:29:20,026 and you're kind of fucking with my plan." 647 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:24,030 But then a couple of 'em actually started smoking crack. 648 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:27,233 Equipment started to go missing, and... 649 00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:29,902 and I just said, "You know what, I'm out." 650 00:29:29,969 --> 00:29:31,971 ♪ Whoo! ♪ 651 00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:42,514 ['80s pop music playing] 652 00:29:42,581 --> 00:29:44,250 [Janet] Within probably a few months 653 00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,352 of joining the band, we ended up doing 654 00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:48,921 this goofy movie Hardbodies, 655 00:29:48,988 --> 00:29:50,622 and some of our songs were in that. 656 00:29:50,689 --> 00:29:53,092 [rock flourish] 657 00:29:53,159 --> 00:29:54,426 ♪ Oh ♪ 658 00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:55,895 And of course, 659 00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:58,597 my Mormon mother went to see it. 660 00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:00,466 I warned her. 661 00:30:00,532 --> 00:30:02,068 I said, "Trust me. 662 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,203 You don't want to see this movie." [laughs] 663 00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:08,407 ♪ By the phone, all alone ♪ 664 00:30:08,474 --> 00:30:10,242 And I think she brought 665 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,378 a couple of her friends with her. 666 00:30:12,444 --> 00:30:14,413 She said, "Oh, it was fun." 667 00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,084 Right on, Mom! 668 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,585 What record company you guys record for? 669 00:30:20,686 --> 00:30:22,154 Uh, we don't have a label. 670 00:30:22,221 --> 00:30:23,589 We can't even get a gig. 671 00:30:23,655 --> 00:30:25,091 [laughter] 672 00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:26,625 [Janet] We kind of realized 673 00:30:26,692 --> 00:30:29,061 we need to find a manager now. 674 00:30:29,128 --> 00:30:32,831 Alan Kovac did have a couple of great artists. 675 00:30:32,899 --> 00:30:34,967 He was like, "I know I can do this. 676 00:30:35,034 --> 00:30:37,669 I know I can make this happen, and I'll get you signed." 677 00:30:37,736 --> 00:30:39,638 And it didn't take him long 678 00:30:39,705 --> 00:30:41,908 to come back with record deal offers. 679 00:30:41,974 --> 00:30:44,276 And we were stunned. 680 00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:46,745 It was exciting, but it was also scary 681 00:30:46,812 --> 00:30:48,915 to sign on that dotted line. 682 00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:52,818 So like this sound... 683 00:30:52,885 --> 00:30:55,754 [electronic pulsing beats playing over speakers] 684 00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:57,523 Because it's an octave down in the solo. 685 00:30:57,589 --> 00:30:59,125 I programmed an octave down. 686 00:30:59,191 --> 00:31:01,527 So maybe just this sound in the solo, you know, 687 00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:03,429 where it's panning and shit. 688 00:31:03,495 --> 00:31:05,764 [Kip] I said read to Reb, "Like, let's make a pact." 689 00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:07,967 No outside work for six months. 690 00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,601 Like you don't take one job. 691 00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:11,203 I am not going to do anything, 692 00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:14,173 but we're going to focus on writing songs. 693 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,042 - This is where I sing. - [Kip] And we'll make demos. 694 00:31:16,108 --> 00:31:17,443 We're making the album now. 695 00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:19,311 And we'll try to get a record deal. 696 00:31:19,378 --> 00:31:22,814 [rock music playing] 697 00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:36,062 It was four guys who had played 698 00:31:36,128 --> 00:31:38,064 their whole lives in clubs 699 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:41,968 and different bands, putting a band together. 700 00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:44,303 I mean, first day we wrote "Madalaine", 701 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:46,973 "Time to Surrender" and maybe even "Seventeen". 702 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,474 [Kip] Do you remember that cord thing 703 00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:49,976 you did in the very beginning of it? The... 704 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:51,443 [vocalizing chord progression] 705 00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:55,847 [playing chord progression] 706 00:31:55,914 --> 00:31:58,884 [Kip] Reb and I worked for six months. 707 00:31:58,951 --> 00:32:01,353 And everybody turned us down still. 708 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:03,355 Beau Hill was very good friends 709 00:32:03,422 --> 00:32:05,924 with Doug Morris at Atlantic. 710 00:32:05,992 --> 00:32:09,528 Doug was like, "Don't play me anymore Kip Winger." 711 00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:11,563 Beau just said, "Just listen to this." 712 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:13,032 [playing rock music] 713 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,709 What planet are you from, man? That's great. 714 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,344 We got it! 715 00:32:25,444 --> 00:32:26,945 Doug was like, "That sounds pretty good. 716 00:32:27,146 --> 00:32:29,781 Okay, well, we'll just give you the minimum deal." 717 00:32:29,848 --> 00:32:31,183 Like, we got the worst deal. 718 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:33,052 And we're like, "We'll take it. 719 00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:36,188 Just give us a shot and we'll fucking take it." 720 00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,094 [Sabo] We started getting interest 721 00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:44,363 from Atlantic Records. 722 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:46,465 They fly on a helicopter. 723 00:32:46,532 --> 00:32:48,600 We're playing a roller skating rink. 724 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,636 ['80s pop music playing] 725 00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:54,740 You know, you expect this to be happening, 726 00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:58,544 some posh venue in New York City or Los Angeles. 727 00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:02,648 We're in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania at a roller rink. 728 00:33:02,714 --> 00:33:05,451 They're like, "We want the band." 729 00:33:05,517 --> 00:33:07,619 We were like, "Oh, my God!" 730 00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:11,557 The record deal to a young musician 731 00:33:11,623 --> 00:33:13,325 is the Holy Grail. 732 00:33:13,392 --> 00:33:14,893 It's what sets you apart 733 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,895 from every other band in the club circuit. 734 00:33:16,962 --> 00:33:19,498 ♪ We are the youth gone wild! ♪ 735 00:33:19,565 --> 00:33:21,333 We were getting a shot. 736 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,302 We were getting a shot to have our music 737 00:33:23,369 --> 00:33:25,304 on a frigging album, 738 00:33:25,371 --> 00:33:29,775 with that Atlantic Records A in the center of it. 739 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,644 We're on the same label as Led Zeppelin, man. 740 00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:34,746 ♪ We are the youth gone wild! ♪ 741 00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:36,448 [vocalizing] 742 00:33:36,515 --> 00:33:38,350 [band vocalizing] 743 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:40,586 [vocalizing] 744 00:33:40,652 --> 00:33:42,688 ♪ We are the youth gone wild! ♪ 745 00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:45,757 ♪ We've gone wild! Gone wild! ♪ 746 00:33:45,824 --> 00:33:48,827 [Kip] You're strapped to that rocket ship, man. 747 00:33:48,894 --> 00:33:50,862 And you're riding this thing 748 00:33:50,929 --> 00:33:52,364 and you don't know where it's going, 749 00:33:52,431 --> 00:33:54,300 but you know it's going forward. 750 00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:01,640 [Katherine] Sebastian Bach was kind of like 751 00:34:01,707 --> 00:34:04,543 nothing you'd ever seen before. 752 00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:06,345 He had the aura of the rock star. 753 00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:08,147 He had the "It." He had the je ne sais quoi. 754 00:34:08,214 --> 00:34:10,549 He had the whatever. Not everyone can do that. 755 00:34:10,616 --> 00:34:13,284 David Lee Roth had that, 756 00:34:13,351 --> 00:34:15,353 Bret Michaels has it. 757 00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:18,657 That's why these bands all are up there. 758 00:34:18,724 --> 00:34:20,826 So I wrote a book called "Louder Than Hell". 759 00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:24,496 It's billed as the definitive history of metal. 760 00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:26,864 And so my co-writer and I went to people 761 00:34:26,931 --> 00:34:28,867 and were like, you know, "What is metal?" 762 00:34:28,934 --> 00:34:30,502 "Where did metal start?" 763 00:34:30,569 --> 00:34:32,003 ♪ Gotta kick out my... ♪ 764 00:34:33,539 --> 00:34:35,741 The first wave of metal, 765 00:34:35,806 --> 00:34:37,342 where it all began. 766 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,578 ♪ Gonna kick out the jams ♪ 767 00:34:39,645 --> 00:34:41,313 ♪ Yeah, kick out the jams ♪ 768 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:44,550 Detroit was kind of the proving ground 769 00:34:44,616 --> 00:34:46,284 of the MC5. 770 00:34:47,418 --> 00:34:48,820 Then came The Stooges. 771 00:34:50,289 --> 00:34:51,989 ♪ I got you under my wheels ♪ 772 00:34:52,056 --> 00:34:53,425 [Katherine] Alice Cooper. 773 00:34:53,492 --> 00:34:56,161 ♪ Got you under my wheels ♪ 774 00:34:56,228 --> 00:34:57,496 ["Cat Scratch Fever"] 775 00:34:57,563 --> 00:34:59,498 And Ted Nugent. 776 00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:03,935 Distortion, loud guitars, just antics, energy. 777 00:35:04,002 --> 00:35:06,905 You know, who-gives-a-shit kind of passions. 778 00:35:06,972 --> 00:35:09,541 [Led Zeppelin's "Rock and Roll"] 779 00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:11,877 In England, Zeppelin... 780 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:15,347 ♪ There once was a woman, a strange kind of woman ♪ 781 00:35:15,414 --> 00:35:16,448 Deep Purple. 782 00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:18,517 ♪ Man in uniform ♪ 783 00:35:18,584 --> 00:35:20,219 Iron Maiden. 784 00:35:20,286 --> 00:35:21,820 [playing hard rock] 785 00:35:24,022 --> 00:35:25,791 We all arrived at Black Sabbath. 786 00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:28,794 Everyone sort of arrives at Black Sabbath. 787 00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:30,796 Ozzy may not arrive there, you know, he said, 788 00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:33,265 "Well, we're just a fucking blues band, aren't we?" 789 00:35:33,332 --> 00:35:34,866 [rock music playing] 790 00:35:39,338 --> 00:35:41,473 Van Halen were from Pasadena, 791 00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:44,443 and they had a whole lot of backyard parties. 792 00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:47,379 And they played Gazzarri's. 793 00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,448 And they influenced so many other bands. 794 00:35:49,515 --> 00:35:51,883 [guitar riffing] 795 00:35:54,186 --> 00:35:58,757 Van Halen had the template for the shredding guitarist. 796 00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:00,759 The outrageous frontman with the hair. 797 00:36:02,694 --> 00:36:04,430 Never would I call them metal, 798 00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:05,964 never would I call them hair metal, 799 00:36:06,031 --> 00:36:09,000 but an influence on every single band 800 00:36:09,067 --> 00:36:11,470 that was metal that came afterwards for sure. 801 00:36:11,537 --> 00:36:15,073 ♪ Come on, feel the noise ♪ 802 00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:17,243 ♪ Girls, rock your boys ♪ 803 00:36:17,309 --> 00:36:19,911 Quiet Riot were definitely one of the first wave 804 00:36:19,978 --> 00:36:23,315 of the Los Angeles bands starting in the '70s. 805 00:36:23,382 --> 00:36:25,317 "Metal Health" was, unbelievably, 806 00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:28,987 the first to metal album to top the Billboard charts. 807 00:36:29,054 --> 00:36:31,657 Provided the impetus, like, metal, it might be happening. 808 00:36:31,723 --> 00:36:33,692 People are buying it. We can do it. 809 00:36:35,661 --> 00:36:38,530 [MTV opening flourish plays] 810 00:36:38,597 --> 00:36:40,666 Of course, MTV played a huge part 811 00:36:40,732 --> 00:36:42,133 in the explosion of metal. 812 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,036 ♪ We're not gonna take it ♪ 813 00:36:45,103 --> 00:36:47,339 Both Twisted Sister and Quiet Riot 814 00:36:47,406 --> 00:36:52,110 tapped into the teenage boy angst thing in their videos. 815 00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:55,514 Hits disenfranchised kids everywhere. 816 00:36:55,581 --> 00:36:57,349 Take check. 817 00:36:57,416 --> 00:36:59,551 [man] Here we go. 818 00:36:59,618 --> 00:37:01,687 - Just don't kick my coffee... - [laughter] 819 00:37:01,753 --> 00:37:04,656 because that would be the end of our friendship. 820 00:37:05,957 --> 00:37:08,193 Well, MTV was a visual medium, 821 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,462 and, uh, they were quickly, 822 00:37:10,529 --> 00:37:13,632 uh, scurrying around to find bands 823 00:37:13,699 --> 00:37:15,667 that were visually interesting. 824 00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:19,505 And lo and behold, in the heavy metal world, 825 00:37:19,571 --> 00:37:23,542 visual representation was as important as musical, 826 00:37:23,609 --> 00:37:28,347 so bands like Iron Maiden, Kiss, Twisted Sister and so on, 827 00:37:28,414 --> 00:37:33,051 we were concerned about the visual as well as the audio, 828 00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:34,753 and that was just perfect 829 00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:37,923 for a visual audio medium like MTV. 830 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:42,260 What do you do with your life? 831 00:37:42,328 --> 00:37:43,829 ♪ I wanna rock! ♪ 832 00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:45,096 ♪ Rock! ♪ 833 00:37:47,132 --> 00:37:48,166 ♪ I wanna rock! ♪ 834 00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:49,535 ♪ Rock! ♪ 835 00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:53,339 - ♪ I want to rock ♪ - ♪ Rock! ♪ 836 00:37:53,405 --> 00:37:55,040 [screaming] 837 00:37:56,074 --> 00:37:57,175 ♪ I wanna rock ♪ 838 00:37:57,242 --> 00:37:58,944 ♪ Rock! ♪ 839 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:00,546 [Dee] When they first started out, 840 00:38:00,612 --> 00:38:02,881 MTV needed heavy metal. 841 00:38:02,948 --> 00:38:04,950 And they really helped take heavy metal, 842 00:38:05,016 --> 00:38:06,552 re-birth heavy metal 843 00:38:06,652 --> 00:38:08,186 and take it to a whole 'nother level. 844 00:38:08,454 --> 00:38:10,589 Hold on to your jams, because for the next two hours, 845 00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:12,057 you're going to see all out, 846 00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:15,561 no-nonsense, wall-to-wall metal. 847 00:38:15,627 --> 00:38:19,565 Back here on Heavy Metal Mania with my guest, Jon Bon Jovi. 848 00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:22,734 [Dee] I hosted a show called Heavy Metal Mania. 849 00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:25,070 After a year and a half, I asked to be paid. 850 00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:26,438 MTV said, 851 00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:29,040 "Dee, we don't pay money. 852 00:38:29,107 --> 00:38:30,976 This is great for you. This is promotion." 853 00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:33,645 I was like, "You gotta be fucking kidding me. 854 00:38:33,712 --> 00:38:35,647 I really don't need Heavy Metal Mania 855 00:38:35,714 --> 00:38:37,383 to give me exposure. 856 00:38:37,449 --> 00:38:38,884 I need money." 857 00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:40,986 MTV's Heavy Metal Mania. 858 00:38:41,052 --> 00:38:43,154 [Dee] Eventually, they did pay me. 859 00:38:43,221 --> 00:38:44,490 [rock music playing] 860 00:38:47,225 --> 00:38:48,994 After I left, Heavy Metal Mania 861 00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:51,730 became Headbanger's Ball. 862 00:38:51,797 --> 00:38:54,733 Riki Rachtman here, welcome to the Headbanger's Ball. 863 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,668 [Riki] For many years, 864 00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:58,804 well, five that I remember, 865 00:38:58,870 --> 00:39:00,739 we had the Headbanger's Ball on MTV. 866 00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:02,974 We traveled far across the globe to... 867 00:39:03,041 --> 00:39:04,142 ...to Rio de Janeiro... 868 00:39:04,209 --> 00:39:05,777 - New Orleans... - Japan... 869 00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:08,947 We've got Metal Church, Dangerous Toys, 870 00:39:09,014 --> 00:39:11,450 Motorhead, Judas Priest and Alice Cooper. 871 00:39:11,517 --> 00:39:16,287 [Riki] Headbanger's Ball broke so many bands. 872 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:18,156 And here we have Jack Russell from Great White. 873 00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:20,792 [Riki] And all of a sudden, we're in your home. 874 00:39:20,859 --> 00:39:22,360 We're bringing these people to your home. 875 00:39:22,428 --> 00:39:23,629 This is Alice Cooper, 876 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,531 and this is Joe Satriani. 877 00:39:25,597 --> 00:39:29,334 If you live in this small town, it was the way 878 00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:31,537 that people found out about these bands. 879 00:39:31,603 --> 00:39:32,838 Remember to keep one foot in the gutter, 880 00:39:32,904 --> 00:39:34,773 one fist in the gold. See ya. 881 00:39:43,415 --> 00:39:45,551 [Vicky] I was pretty involved with Motley Crue 882 00:39:45,617 --> 00:39:47,486 in trying to help them get a record deal. 883 00:39:47,553 --> 00:39:49,387 I took a few meetings. 884 00:39:49,455 --> 00:39:52,023 I didn't really know that many A & R people yet, 885 00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:54,560 but I, like, played it for John Kolodner 886 00:39:54,626 --> 00:39:57,529 with Geffen Records and a few others, 887 00:39:57,596 --> 00:40:00,666 but then they got new management, 888 00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:04,335 and all of a sudden I was kind of out of a job. 889 00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,905 [laughs] They still owe me $3,000. 890 00:40:06,972 --> 00:40:09,040 You know, $3,000 in interest 891 00:40:09,107 --> 00:40:11,409 has got to be a lot of money at this point, right? 892 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,281 ♪ Plug me in, I'm alive tonight ♪ 893 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,550 [Katherine] Motley Crue was one of the first hair bands. 894 00:40:18,617 --> 00:40:21,487 Motley were very lucky or smart 895 00:40:21,553 --> 00:40:23,922 in that they got both men and women, 896 00:40:23,989 --> 00:40:25,090 in the early days. 897 00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:27,325 ♪ 'Cause I'm alive! ♪ 898 00:40:27,392 --> 00:40:29,427 ♪ Live wire ♪ 899 00:40:29,495 --> 00:40:33,665 This was the first type of metal that appealed to women. 900 00:40:33,732 --> 00:40:36,167 [rock ballad playing] 901 00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:38,069 [Lonn] They were aesthetically forbidden, 902 00:40:38,136 --> 00:40:41,272 visually forbidden, sonically forbidden. 903 00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:43,241 They were just bad boys, 904 00:40:43,308 --> 00:40:45,877 but they had hooks 905 00:40:45,944 --> 00:40:49,515 and they looked so fucking cool. 906 00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:53,118 [Katherine] It was so exciting and new 907 00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:55,587 and cool and unpredictable. 908 00:40:55,654 --> 00:40:56,722 People were just thrilled. 909 00:40:58,323 --> 00:40:59,791 [Lonn] "The local glam metal movement 910 00:40:59,858 --> 00:41:02,193 was ignited by Motley Crue in '82 911 00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:04,863 with their lecherous landmark debut, 'Too Fast for Love', 912 00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:08,399 and taken to further cacophonous extremes in '83 913 00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:10,235 with Dokken's 'Breaking the Chains'." 914 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,238 ♪ Breaking the chains around you ♪ 915 00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,040 ♪ Nobody else can bind you... ♪ 916 00:41:15,106 --> 00:41:16,141 [Lonn] "The following year brought 917 00:41:16,207 --> 00:41:17,909 Motley running mates Ratt 918 00:41:18,043 --> 00:41:20,278 into the fray with their "Out of the Cellar" LP." 919 00:41:20,345 --> 00:41:22,480 ♪ Round and round ♪ 920 00:41:22,548 --> 00:41:26,484 ♪ With love, we'll find a way, just give it time ♪ 921 00:41:26,552 --> 00:41:28,754 [Lonn] "The Sunset Strip had become the vortex 922 00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:30,722 of volume and decadence, 923 00:41:30,789 --> 00:41:34,025 for not just Los Angeles, but the entire rocking planet." 924 00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:36,662 Thank you. 925 00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:37,829 [laughs] 926 00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:41,967 ♪ I'm live in Texas! ♪ 927 00:41:42,033 --> 00:41:43,669 ♪ Texas! ♪ 928 00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:46,404 I was just like, "Wow! If you grow your hair long... 929 00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:50,742 ♪ No way, no way to love ♪ 930 00:41:50,809 --> 00:41:53,511 ...you can be on MTV and be rich." [laughs] 931 00:41:53,579 --> 00:41:55,513 ♪ Don't you change that song ♪ 932 00:41:55,581 --> 00:41:58,850 ♪ I miss my baby ♪ 933 00:41:58,917 --> 00:42:01,587 Everything in Hollywood was just kicking ass. 934 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,523 [Taime] That big scene was like a magnet 935 00:42:05,591 --> 00:42:07,292 for people across the country to come here. 936 00:42:07,392 --> 00:42:11,529 ♪ We got your number off the bathroom wall ♪♪ 937 00:42:11,597 --> 00:42:14,332 [Taime] We were all kids from different areas, 938 00:42:14,399 --> 00:42:16,802 trying to become rock stars, to get record deals. 939 00:42:16,868 --> 00:42:19,370 That was like, "Got to get a record deal." 940 00:42:19,437 --> 00:42:21,607 The odds of getting a record deal 941 00:42:21,673 --> 00:42:24,643 were actually, at that time, not bad. 942 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:26,477 They were probably like one in ten. 943 00:42:28,379 --> 00:42:30,448 The odds of having a hit 944 00:42:30,515 --> 00:42:31,883 were maybe one in a hundred. 945 00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:33,451 The odds of making it, 946 00:42:33,518 --> 00:42:35,186 were maybe one in a million. 947 00:42:35,253 --> 00:42:36,822 [light rock ballad playing] 948 00:42:39,224 --> 00:42:40,525 [Janet] Getting signed, 949 00:42:40,592 --> 00:42:44,195 we knew that was a huge step. 950 00:42:44,262 --> 00:42:46,965 But then, when it really happens, it's kind of like, 951 00:42:47,032 --> 00:42:49,067 "Well, what does this actually mean?" 952 00:42:49,134 --> 00:42:51,803 Got a record deal, freaking out. 953 00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:53,571 Put the record out. 954 00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,240 Nothing. 955 00:42:55,306 --> 00:42:56,975 Nothing happened. 956 00:42:57,042 --> 00:42:59,210 You pictured champagne being opened 957 00:42:59,277 --> 00:43:02,413 and this atmosphere of celebration 958 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,983 for your lifelong dream, 959 00:43:05,050 --> 00:43:06,852 and it was not that. 960 00:43:06,918 --> 00:43:09,020 In reality, it's only the start 961 00:43:09,087 --> 00:43:12,290 of the hell that you have to go through from there. 962 00:43:13,825 --> 00:43:14,860 Ha! 963 00:43:18,196 --> 00:43:21,700 ♪ Now you tell me there's a change in plans ♪ 964 00:43:21,767 --> 00:43:24,770 ♪ And our castles were just made of sand ♪ 965 00:43:24,836 --> 00:43:27,906 ♪ I try to act like I understand ♪ 966 00:43:27,973 --> 00:43:31,109 ♪ But I don't at all ♪ 967 00:43:31,176 --> 00:43:34,245 ♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪ 968 00:43:34,312 --> 00:43:37,382 ♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪ 969 00:43:37,448 --> 00:43:40,752 ♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪ 970 00:43:40,819 --> 00:43:44,690 ♪ Whatever happened to fun? ♪ 70937

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