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Hi, this is Chris Carter, the writer
and director of this episode - Triangle.
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This was an overly ambitious
episode actually,
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and one that took a tremendous amount
of extra planning
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and extra care and extra work
for everyone involved.
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It was filmed in long takes, oners,
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that were put together artfully
and made to look like real time.
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So what you're seeing is actually edited film
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that pretends to be in one continuous,
long take through each act.
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You can see where some of the edits are
if you pay very careful attention,
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but our attempt was to disguise them.
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We begin here in the Sargasso Sea
with the wreckage of a ship.
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This was actually filmed in a tank.
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And here's Agent Mulder
lying face first in the water.
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This was filmed in a tank
that was used on the movie Titanic,
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among other movies.
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We're actually in the middle
of a sort of desert here
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but you wouldn't know that,
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because we never actually rise...
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the camera never rises above the water level.
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This is stock footage
of a stormy, stormy ocean
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with Mulder - David Duchovny -
being pulled out of the sea.
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We're actually filming right off
the edge of the Queen Mary here.
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Just to give a little background,
when I told the actors what we were doing,
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they were game and they wanted to do it,
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but they knew they'd have
to learn their lines very well
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because they'd be doing long takes
as you see in this first take.
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This is all continuous action.
There is an edit in here.
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But Mulder is hauled aboard
the Queen Anne, which is the Queen Mary.
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He is being brutalised by the British
sailors who have found him in the sea
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who believe he's a German spy,
calling him Jerry.
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There's an edit in this little area here
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to get Mulder upright
to answer the questions.
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Now he's going to be hauled roughly
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into the interior of the ship
where, once again, we cut.
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But this is all long, long single takes
that took a lot of rehearsal
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and, ultimately, a lot of very careful
camerawork and focus pulling.
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Dave LiJckenbach really was, for me,
a kind of codirector on this whole episode.
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He, as the Steadicam operator,
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had the job of keeping the action
framed in an interesting way.
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As you're coming in this hallway,
there was an edit in the darkness.
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Another edit there on the swing pan.
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Mulder brought into the hallway
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and taken to Captain Yip Harburg's room,
the British captain.
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Some of these actors were British,
and some were affecting British accents.
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I think the lead actor here,
Trevor, is actually Australian.
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Madison Mason, who plays Yip Harburg,
is an American affecting an English accent.
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This was a really difficult scene for Bill Roe.
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This one in particular,
because we're 360° around the room,
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and he's got to light it,
and light it interestingly.
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He lit it and then I questioned his lighting.
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I thought it was too flat and I thought
it wasn't what I was looking for.
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He tore the lighting out
and we started again.
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It was very nervous-making because
this was our first scene of the day
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and I think it took us until about lunchtime
to actually get a shot off,
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That's very nervous-making
in episodic television,
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because you've really gotta be
putting film in the camera
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and getting prints
if you want to get your work done.
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So this was all a very
anxiety-producing situation.
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David Duchovny was spot-on.
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He had his dialogue down perfectly
and had to do this scene...
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I think we ended up shooting
this scene a half-dozen times
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before we got it exactly right.
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The camera needs to be a character here,
looking back and forth,
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anticipating the dialogue, pushing in,
keeping the framing interesting.
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There's a little cheap joke here
about the White House.
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This was during the Clinton scandal,
the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
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It's a cheap joke that
probably doesn't work now.
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David is left alone in the room
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and all of a sudden...
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He's confused about the time
or the others are confused
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because they're in the Devil's Triangle.
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Suddenly he hears a message over the radio,
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which is Neville Chamberlain
declaring war against Germany.
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ln hearing this, he realises that it's not
that he has come onto the ship in 1998,
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but that he has come onto the ship in 1939.
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There's a whip pan here when Mulder
hears something at the door
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and all of a sudden, for the first time,
we see that the characters...
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There's a nice light change there too,
which was very difficult to do.
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This is continuous action.
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We're going to see that people in The X-Files
are actually showing up now
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as characters, Nazi characters,
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very similar to the characters that they play,
in terms of their villainy, in the series.
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This is a very edgy shot here.
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Very, very dark.
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Done with a double, actually.
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Both Mulder and Spender here
are doubled for this fight sequence.
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Through some tricky camerawork here,
in silhouette.
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There's a cut right there. I have Mulder
finding that indeed it's Jeffrey Spender
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dressed as a Nazi.
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I got a chance to use some of my favourite
'40s music here too, or '30s and '40s music,
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to transition scenes and it was kind of a thrill.
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This was actually one
of the less effective shots I did.
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I had to sort of span time here a little bit,
so it's a little bit of a pan across nothing,
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while I get Mulder dressed or re-dressed
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and bring in the Nazis
coming down the corridors.
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Beautifully lit and shot corridors.
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Mulder enters in his Nazi uniform now,
in disguise.
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Corey Kaplan did such an amazing job -
our production designer - on this episode.
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She was able to take what was already there,
which was quite beautiful,
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and authenticate it, make it look
as if it were a completely period ship.
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It was not quite. There were some things,
additions - lights, carpeting and so forth -
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that actually made it look
less like an actual period ship.
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There are little visual references
to The Wizard of 02 throughout,
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including that billboard you saw,
the poster board you saw behind Mulder.
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Here he ducks in to the ballroom
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as the Nazis... just eluding
the Nazis who run past.
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The camera as a character, Dave LiJckenbach
pushing in through the curtains, a cut,
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and we're in the ballroom.
Still as if it's continuous time.
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This was a very expensive scene,
because there's so many extras.
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Lighting took so much time, and costumes...
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There are dancers here, but I had actually
only about eight real expert dancers.
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Everybody else had to be taught
how to dance in the sort of period style.
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Mulder sees this singer on stage and
recognises her, as we'll recognise her later.
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Oh, now who does he bump into?
He bumps into Scully.
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Now Mulder, dressed in a Nazi uniform,
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running into the Scully lookalike
who's never seen him before in her life.
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This was very fun to shoot.
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You can imagine, after five years of shooting
Mulder and Scully as Mulder and Scully,
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the chance to make them somebody else
and to use that conceit
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was a lot of fun, I think, for everybody.
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The man who we will come later
to realise is Thor's Hammer,
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the scientist who knows about
building an atomic weapon,
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we'll see him later on in the X-Files office.
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Mulder is once again challenged...
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David is challenged physically here,
in these scenes,
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roughhoused, handled roughly.
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Taken outside... above decks
and hauled through the rain.
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The cameraman actually got up onto...
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I had him rise up onto a platform here,
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so we got a nice high angle
that we wouldn't have achieved othenNise.
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So every time we see this angle change,
you'll see that there's another cut.
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It requires some piece of machinery,
piece of expertise,
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that's all done in continuous action.
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We hired some actual German actors
for the Nazi roles,
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so that their voices sounded authentic.
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They spoke in that thick German accent.
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We are actually in the wheelhouse
of the Queen Mary right here
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and the water pouring
off the sides is ourwater.
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We've created it with giant sprinkler systems.
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What you're looking at, really,
is take two of a very complicated sequence.
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and the camera had to work just so.
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I would have probably done this a few more
times to get itjust the way I wanted it.
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l have to say it turned out amazingly well,
in spite of the fact I only got to do it twice,
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because the wheelhouse started to leak with
all the water we were pumping down on it.
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The folks at the Queen Mary
actually forced us to shut down.
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So this was a stroke ofjust tremendous luck
that we got what we got here.
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You'll see in a moment
the appearance of another X—Files...
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Here's the Cigarette-Smoking Man, Bill Davis,
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as the head Nazi here,
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and the appearance of another man
who we last expect to see in Nazi dress,
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that being AD Skinner, who I thought was
somewhat less recognisable with his hat on.
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But we loved the gla... We gave him
the little sort of Colonel Klink glasses.
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This brings us to the end of an act.
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Moving the episode now into the FBI.
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For a lot of people this is their favourite act.
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I think it moves really well.
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There's the man Scully was dancing with,
working at the FBI,
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so everyone plays a dual role,
or most everyone.
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I think that the way the action
moved here is... It worked.
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The concept actually of keeping this
moving as one continuous take worked,
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and it worked because
the Lone Gunmen knew their lines.
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They'd spent the night before
having a few beers and going over their lines,
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so they were word-perfect.
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Along with Scully,
who had to move the action,
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notjust by knowing her lines,
but she actually marches...
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She does a lot of very physical
marching in and out of offices here
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and has to maintain a tone and keep
her energy up through each piece of the film,
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which all has to match, tonally, in an
ever-rising and escalating sense of urgency.
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Mulder and Scully are actually out of
the X-Files during the larger story arc here,
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so this is Scully's office for now,
which is why we're not in the X-Files office.
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The X-Files office is being manned by
Agent Spender, who's Mulder's half-brother,
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and a villain.
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You've already seen him
dressed in a Nazi uniform.
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This is Arlene Pileggi, Mitch Pileggi's wife,
playing Skinner's secretary.
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Scully going to get help from Skinner,
who we'vejust seen in Nazi dress,
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who offers her no help at all.
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Similarly as he's done,
he seems like a villain here,
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as he appeared to us on the ship with Mulder
when we saw him at the end of the last act.
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As we'll come to see, he is...
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Well, he seems like he is an obstacle here.
He will end up becoming an ally.
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Janet Reno on the wall.
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Dates the picture. She's no longer in herjob.
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l have saved at home these notes.
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Just kind of funny little memorabilia.
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You'll see that Gillian writes a note in
Spender's office - the X-Files office - later on.
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I don't know why, ljust...
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She had to write it on camera, so when
we wrapped the scene I took the note
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and I've kept it as one of
my little pieces of the show.
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That was a tricky camera move there.
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The cameraman needed to get out of the
office behind Gillian and get in front of her,
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so we needed to create some obstacles
which we made human obstacles.
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Now, these elevator scenes are very tricky,
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because the cameraman has to get
inside with Scully, in the elevator,
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so he's gotta squeeze in, keeping his framing.
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The focus puller here...
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He is... If the...
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This is a trick. There was a out there and I
chose to have Scully step on the woman's toe
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to hide the fact that she is now completely
separated from that last scene that she did.
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So, being in the elevator and getting out
of it were shot as two different scenes.
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The focus puller has a really difficultjob here,
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because each time
the camera moves in and out
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and the subject matter
changes its focus plane,
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the focus puller has to be exact.
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If he's not, we get out-of-focus shots
and we can't use those.
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So not only do the actors
and the cameraman have to be great
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but the focus puller here has to be perfect,
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and he was an incredible amount of the time.
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Scully can get help from no one.
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She sees that now she has even
betrayed Mulder's whereabouts
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and his plan, or what he has done,
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to her superior and her arch nemesis,
the Cigarette-Smoking Man,
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who we've already seen as the evillest
of the Nazis on board the Queen Anne...
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in World War II.
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Scully going to the cellphone.
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Running for the elevator and...
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For the first time in a long time, (chuckles)
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she can't get out on her cellphone.
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Seems like that cellphone works everywhere
but in the FBI elevator of all places.
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There's a out here.
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Every time Scully gets in and out of
the elevator we have to cut,
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because we've gotta be in a new place.
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We're in the X-Files basement here,
the X-Files office,
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with Spender, who's proven himself
to be a weasel, as Scully says.
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He's no help at all but she browbeats him.
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This is a nice moment that Chris Owens
created, looking off, creating a moment,
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so he's notjust watching
Scully's action but he's thinking.
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It was nice to be able
to come off Scully to Chris Owens.
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He makes a moment of something
that was really not a moment at all,
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which was important
when the camera is always watching.
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There's no editorial,
no chance to cut around anything.
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There's only what the camera sees
in linear time.
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In the elevator scenes coming up,
Scully moving in and out...
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Here will be another out As the camera
focuses on the doors, we hold on the split
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and there... you can see a slight move
there if you notice it,
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a slight camera adjustment
which is another cut.
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We're in another scene.
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The elevator's actually stationary. It does
not move, although it appears to move.
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So while Scully's inside,
often when the doors are opening,
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or at least twice while the doors are opening,
Scully comes out, pops back in.
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Then when the doors close,
we're still in real time.
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Now the crew is out, scrambling like crazy.
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Set Dec is out re-dressing
the same hallway as another hallway
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and this, actually, was really funny.
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We're in the same hallway now.
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Different extras, different furniture,
different everything.
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Often we went too fast and we caught
the crew with pictures in their hand,
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moving furniture.
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It was like a farce.
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That hallway changed three times
during the course of that scene,
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all running in continuous time.
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This was, coming up, one of the most
difficult scenes for the cameraman,
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when we jump out
into the FBI parking garage
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and the Lone Gunmen pull up in their van.
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The cameraman actually has
to get in the van with them,
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sit down,
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and we see Agent Spender running behind.
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The choreography of this, the timing,
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and the camera difficulty are...
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ltjust was a superior effort by everyone to
actually make this work in the time we had.
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You're now in the bowels of the Queen Maiy,
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being led along, Mulder being
pushed along with the British soldiers,
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being led by the Nazi soldiers
into the engine room.
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This was really a tight squeeze
for Dave LuCkenbach.
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It was one of the first scenes that we shot,
maybe actually the first scene,
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and the difficulty scared us all.
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Getting this scene, making sure
the camera functioned as a character here,
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pushed into the action, made it feel
alive and interesting throughout,
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in such close quarters, was daunting.
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And when we didn't get
a shot off until lunch...
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Everyone having to get their lines right,
the camerawork being right,
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the lighting being right, the introduction
of new characters into the scene,
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the timing of that,
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it all was, for television, bucking the odds
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that we could actually do what we wanted
to do in the time that we had to do it.
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We couldn't fail. We couldn't make...
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We could make mistakes, but only very few,
because we needed to get the work done.
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Now the plot thickens
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as the traitor is revealed.
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Mulder has now given the Nazis
the information they need.
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Mulder has a trick up his sleeve, he believes,
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knowing where they are,
in the Devil's Triangle.
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He was going to try to speak...
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You'll see another out there,
through the steam.
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He's going to try to speak,
or talk sense to, the man at the wheel,
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who we'll recognise
as AD Kersh, James Pickens,
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giving me his best Rastafarian accent.
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This was a really fun scene to shoot -
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these angry mob crowd scenes -
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because it always felt like it filled the frame
and it kept everything intense,
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but it also felt at the same time,
when you got into these tight corners,
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like you couldn't move the camera
as much as you wanted to.
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Mulder here, trying to intervene.
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The Queen Mary was this incredible resource.
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We had moved from Vancouver
where we had been for five years.
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We were all very nervous
about the look of the show,
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and if it could still be scary enough,
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if we'd have enough atmosphere,
which Vancouver had so much of.
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What we found and
what we learned real quickly
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was that there were so many resources
available that we didn't have in Vancouver,
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in terms of location
and things like the Queen Mary.
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So this was one of the first episodes we did
coming back from Vancouver to Los Angeles.
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It was just a treat to be able
to get all this production value.
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Something we couldn't
have gotten in Vancouver.
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See those whip pans and
the cuts that are hidden there.
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Tight corners again for the cameraman,
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having to scoot down
very, very narrow passageways.
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Using the darkness here as places to cut.
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Through the first three acts
there were 17 edits.
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So there were only really 17 shots through
the first three-quarters of the picture,
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and then there were more in the last act,
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because there are some camera tricks
and things that required extra cuts.
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But I think there were a total of...
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There may have been... It's either 34 cuts
in the whole picture, or 17 plus 34.
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Back in the ballroom here,
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with Agent Spender, or his Nazi counterpart.
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And the Cigarette-Smoking Man
speaking his best German,
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which he practised very hard for me.
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Holding his cigarette...
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as he always does. Smoking a cigarette.
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These scenes are shot
with very wide-angle lenses.
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The camera is actually very,
very close to the actors' faces,
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because you wanna encompass in these
shots as much of this ballroom as possible,
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which had been dressed so beautifully.
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This man who is shot here, a stuntman,
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was the boyfriend of one of
the assistant editors on the show,
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who just happened to fit the bill
for a white-haired gent,
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who is the first passenger
to be killed by the merciless Nazis.
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This is just... The amazing effort
and attention to detail
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that the production folks,
the art people on the show -
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Sandy Getzler, in this case,
the art director -
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were able to accomplish
on a limited budget with limited time.
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This ballroom will actually change over
and become a decrepit version of itself
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in a later scene.
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Spender and Scully in a sort of allusion
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to the earlier scene where Scully
had told Spender what to do.
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Now Spender, as the Nazi,
not bending to Scully's browbeating.
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Mulder, here, in a little lift from
one of my favourite movies, Schindler's List,
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points to the dead man as
the person the Nazis were looking for,
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but it doesn't work.
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Nice try.
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This was an evening shot
of the Queen Mary
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which turned out so beautiful.
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We just lucked out
with the clouds and the sky.
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We're on a boat running beside...
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actually running beside the Queen Mary
and having it all lit up, as you see.
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We weren't able to empty the Queen Mary,
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so if you look carefully you can see
that there are tourists or diners on board,
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eating in the restaurants there.
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Now the use of split screen,
which actually are cuts in themselves,
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but they make the action appear
continuous with the sliding wipes.
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It's a very effective use of an optical
to continue the sense of real time.
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All the extras here are in period costume.
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Period jewellery, if possible.
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The makeup and wardrobe and hair
departments all worked overtime
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and had extra staff, extra personnel in
to make sure everyone looked authentic.
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These are actually some of
the most beautiful scenes in the picture,
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as you get a chance to see
not just the environment,
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but the extras so clearly.
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There was a out there, one of the more clunky
cuts in the picture, with the Nazis crossing.
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There were framing problems.
It was one of the too-obvious tricks, for me.
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They actually had a spotlight in the ballroom
which came in handy for this scene.
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It actually gave it an atmosphere
that I had not imagined,
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so we lucked into that.
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It was a great thrill to stage these fight
scenes, to figure how to put the cuts in them,
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and get the woman hitting the man
over the head with the bottle.
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To keep the fighting interesting
it had to look realistic,
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and yet it was all staged fighting
which sometimes doesn't look realistic.
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00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,195
Once again, the use of the wipe here -
the optical wipe across -
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to get us back to
Scully and the Lone Gunmen
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who have now boarded the Queen Anne.
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We are imagining this is in... that they
have boarded the same ship as Mulder.
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It looks in every way like the same ship
as the one Mulder has boarded.
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But we'll see that they've
actually boarded a ghost ship.
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Mulder's nowhere to be found.
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l'd imagined Mulder and Scully crawling on
the floor with a lot more action around them.
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| just couldn't figure out how to stage it
because I didn't have the extras or scope.
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So it actually turned out a little bit briefer
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and not quite as effective
as I had imagined it.
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Now the tricks will start.
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Mulder and Scully are here in '39
trying to elude the Nazis
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and it looks like they are dead meat here.
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Until a shot is fired,
but no one's been hit but the Nazi.
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And now Skinner,
who's helped Scully in the FBI,
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has revealed himself as a traitor to the Nazis,
helping Mulder and Scully get away.
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Gillian's dress was
specially designed, actually,
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an original design by Christine Peters, who
was the wardrobe designer on the episode.
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I'd seen an MTV video
by the band Semisonic.
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It was a clever use of split screen with
people moving through the split screens.
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So that was, for me,
an inspiration for this scene
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where both Scullys pass by one another
and have a sense of one another,
391
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but how could they when they seem to be
in two different time periods?
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All the staging and the switching here
from period to period
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is done by stopping the camera,
starting the camera,
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holding, freezing the frame.
Optical tricks.
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Scully and the Lone Gunmen
go to the ballroom
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which we recognise
from the hallway, hopefully...
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Thinking we're going to
walk into the ongoing fight.
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00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,110
But slowly revealing...
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that... it is 1998 and
this is indeed a ghost ship.
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The changeover from the ballroom
you've just seen, with the fight going on -
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a beautifully-appointed ballroom to this -
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that had to take place in the course of hours
while we did other work that night.
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00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:09,108
That was the art department's hardest
challenge on the show... doing things...
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It's almost like we were producing a play
and needed to move the scenery around
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while the actors were on stage.
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This was a really fun scene to shoot.
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00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,558
Both David and Gillian were excellent
in it, and Gillian has to...
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00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,599
Not only do they kiss, which Mulder
and Scully have never done to this point,
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00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,797
but Scully's got to land a punch on Mulder.
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When she threw that punch,
I actually thought she had hit him.
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It seemed so effective.
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And it looks very effective here, on film.
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00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,710
Whoa.
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What a lot of people have
been waiting for here.
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Camera swings over and finds the stuntman.
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We've switched out Mulder to
the stuntman, jumping 70-odd feet
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into the water beside the Queen Mary.
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00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,358
The split screen now - we are in
the tank where we began the picture.
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That same tank.
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With a camera now, slowly, with bubbles
that we've added into the tank,
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slowly rising to the surface
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to find the same floating body
that we saw in the beginning.
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And the boat that we've added to the tank
and the crew aboard that boat -
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that we are on... actually in the tank
or afloat on the tank -
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pulling Mulder out of the water.
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This is the only time cut in the picture...
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where we cut from one time to another.
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This leads us to a long oner.
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A single take in Mulder's hospital room
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where there's a few more allusions
to The Wizard of Oz.
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And the reintroduction of the players.
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This is one of the few shots that
was not operated by Dave LuCkenbach.
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This was actually done off a crane.
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00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:05,359
Mulder and Scully have not the most
tender exchange, but sweet.
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00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,548
As we come around to Mulder...
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he delivers his line
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that we may have always imagined he'd
speak one day, but he has never spoken.
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lt's met with rolling eyes.
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00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,675
As we come around, though,
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we see that he's got the black eye
to prove it was all true.
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The episode was nominated
for several awards.
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It won an Emmy for sound editing.
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It was nominated for a
writing Emmy and for a directing Emmy.
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