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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,690 --> 00:00:25,530 Is there a difference between parody and satire? 2 00:00:25,526 --> 00:00:28,156 I mean, obviously parody is ‐‐ man! 3 00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:29,831 I dont know. 4 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:31,430 Well... 5 00:00:31,431 --> 00:00:33,701 You know, Jerry, my brother, 6 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:37,000 and Jim Abrahams always have an answer for that. 7 00:00:37,004 --> 00:00:41,614 I I think of... 8 00:00:41,608 --> 00:00:42,538 I dont know. 9 00:00:42,543 --> 00:00:43,783 Go look it up in the dictionary. 10 00:00:43,777 --> 00:00:45,207 Im sure they have wonderful, 11 00:00:45,212 --> 00:00:48,082 better descriptions of what the word is. 12 00:00:48,081 --> 00:00:50,921 Man: Parody is essentially a take‐off. 13 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:54,348 Parody is like what "Weird" Al Yankovic goes. 14 00:00:54,354 --> 00:00:55,494 I think were done here. 15 00:00:55,489 --> 00:00:56,859 [ Laughter ] 16 00:00:56,857 --> 00:00:58,887 Oh, hold on one second. Satire is hard. 17 00:00:58,892 --> 00:01:00,862 Man: Satire is a more serious 18 00:01:00,861 --> 00:01:03,031 an intensive form of comic derision. 19 00:01:03,030 --> 00:01:05,900 Satire is humor with a moral purpose. 20 00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:08,299 Making fun of things so that they might get better. 21 00:01:08,302 --> 00:01:11,142 You are trying to make a social point. 22 00:01:11,138 --> 00:01:13,668 To me, good satire is... 23 00:01:13,674 --> 00:01:16,244 The greatest weapon against assholes. 24 00:01:16,243 --> 00:01:18,983 And, you know, the world is full of assholes. 25 00:01:48,508 --> 00:01:52,078 This is Captain James T. Kirk of the Starship Enterprise. 26 00:01:52,079 --> 00:01:53,609 Identify yourself. 27 00:01:53,614 --> 00:01:55,724 Smith: "SNL" does parody all the time. 28 00:01:55,716 --> 00:01:58,116 Name a cartoon, they trade in it. 29 00:01:58,118 --> 00:01:59,148 "Lord of the Rings." 30 00:01:59,152 --> 00:02:00,722 Smith: Name a late‐night talk show, 31 00:02:00,721 --> 00:02:02,321 they trade in it. Why? 32 00:02:02,322 --> 00:02:03,962 Because its common reference. 33 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:06,287 Like, we all know the thing theyre parodying. 34 00:02:06,293 --> 00:02:09,333 Parody is very much taking something that we recognize, 35 00:02:09,329 --> 00:02:12,769 a song that everybody knows, a movie that everybody knows. 36 00:02:12,766 --> 00:02:16,736 Its a very grand tradition of taking known forms 37 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:20,267 and skewing them just enough to make a comment about them. 38 00:02:20,273 --> 00:02:22,213 OBrien: In "Your Show of Shows" in the 1950s, 39 00:02:22,209 --> 00:02:24,279 they were parodying things that people knew, 40 00:02:24,277 --> 00:02:27,477 like the famous kissing scene in "From Here to Eternity." 41 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:30,281 Everybody in America had seen that movie. 42 00:02:30,283 --> 00:02:32,153 It was something that everybody could relate to. 43 00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:33,292 And then everyone feels like, 44 00:02:33,286 --> 00:02:35,556 "Yes, were all in this together." 45 00:02:36,356 --> 00:02:38,056 [ Laughter ] 46 00:02:38,058 --> 00:02:40,328 Burnett: When we did a takeoff on "Gone With the Wind," 47 00:02:40,327 --> 00:02:43,527 the younger audience didnt know the original movie. 48 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:45,570 For those who did know the movie, 49 00:02:45,565 --> 00:02:47,425 it was a double whammy. 50 00:02:47,434 --> 00:02:50,704 That gown is gorgeous! 51 00:02:50,704 --> 00:02:52,344 Thank you, I saw it in the window, 52 00:02:52,339 --> 00:02:54,839 and I just couldnt resist it. 53 00:02:54,841 --> 00:02:57,741 Parody tends to make me laugh harder, 54 00:02:57,744 --> 00:03:01,284 but satire tends to make me go, "Ooh, thats good." 55 00:03:01,281 --> 00:03:04,621 Thats 11 votes for Amy Schumer 56 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:05,918 not hot enough for television. 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,549 Is anybody voting the other way? 58 00:03:07,554 --> 00:03:10,964 Reiner: Amy Schumer did a piece about "12 Angry Men." 59 00:03:10,957 --> 00:03:14,057 Thats a great gem piece of satire. 60 00:03:14,061 --> 00:03:15,901 You look at people who just get it. 61 00:03:15,896 --> 00:03:17,296 They get what it is, 62 00:03:17,297 --> 00:03:19,067 and they dont try to make it too big, 63 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:20,926 they dont try to go too broad with it. 64 00:03:20,934 --> 00:03:22,774 They just stay a little close to the bone 65 00:03:22,769 --> 00:03:24,139 and just twist it a little bit. 66 00:03:24,137 --> 00:03:26,607 Its an undisputed fact that a womans value 67 00:03:26,606 --> 00:03:28,366 is mostly determined by her looks. 68 00:03:28,375 --> 00:03:29,575 As it should be. 69 00:03:29,576 --> 00:03:30,906 The verdict is in. 70 00:03:30,911 --> 00:03:33,451 The jury agreed that they would bang you. 71 00:03:33,447 --> 00:03:35,347 Yes! 72 00:03:35,348 --> 00:03:38,418 Youre hot enough for basic cable television. 73 00:03:38,418 --> 00:03:41,518 Thank you, Your Honor! Thank you so much! 74 00:03:41,521 --> 00:03:45,931 You earn the right to be transgressive by being funny ‐‐ 75 00:03:45,926 --> 00:03:48,226 really funny, and then making sure 76 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:50,658 that youre not making fun of the victims. 77 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:54,504 Satire is comedy aimed at the powerful. 78 00:03:54,501 --> 00:03:56,101 Man #1: Is that who I think it is? 79 00:03:56,103 --> 00:03:58,743 Man #2: Uh, yes, thats Adolf Hitler in a home movie. 80 00:04:02,676 --> 00:04:05,076 Man #1: Looks a little like Mel Brooks. 81 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:08,148 In terms of parody and satire, there really is Mel Brooks, 82 00:04:08,148 --> 00:04:10,578 and theres everybody else. 83 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:12,594 When I was a kid, VHS tapes were invented, 84 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:14,186 so we had "The Godfather," 85 00:04:14,187 --> 00:04:16,117 and then we had every Mel Brooks movie, 86 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:18,263 and he was just the funniest. 87 00:04:18,258 --> 00:04:20,758 Id like to go back to your television days, 88 00:04:20,761 --> 00:04:22,561 cause, I mean, you were in television for something 89 00:04:22,562 --> 00:04:25,532 like 20 years, writing for Sid Caesar. 90 00:04:25,532 --> 00:04:27,872 It was very good for me to be part of the writing staff 91 00:04:27,868 --> 00:04:29,838 of "The Show of Shows," "The Sid Caesar Show." 92 00:04:29,836 --> 00:04:32,106 You talk about as though it was a training ground 93 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:33,005 for your film work. 94 00:04:33,006 --> 00:04:34,066 I mean, is that how you see it? 95 00:04:34,074 --> 00:04:35,814 Comedy university, it really was. 96 00:04:35,809 --> 00:04:39,349 Nesteroff: Mel Brooks was one of the highest paid comedy writers 97 00:04:39,346 --> 00:04:40,876 in the history of show business 98 00:04:40,881 --> 00:04:42,381 when he worked for "Your Show of Shows." 99 00:04:42,382 --> 00:04:45,222 So by the time of "The Producers," 100 00:04:45,218 --> 00:04:47,188 he was one of the most critically acclaimed 101 00:04:47,187 --> 00:04:48,917 people in comedy. 102 00:04:48,922 --> 00:04:52,932 Joseph? You are smoking in the presence of the Fuhrer. 103 00:04:52,926 --> 00:04:56,126 Im sorry, big daddy. 104 00:04:56,129 --> 00:05:01,069 "The Producers" was not the first attempt to parody Hitler. 105 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:02,397 Ernst Lubitsch had done it. 106 00:05:02,402 --> 00:05:03,672 Heil myself. 107 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:06,210 The Three Stooges did it in a couple of film shorts. 108 00:05:06,206 --> 00:05:09,536 But it really was the embodiment 109 00:05:09,543 --> 00:05:11,783 of a lot of what Mel Brooks was about. 110 00:05:11,778 --> 00:05:14,448 He does have this Hitler obsession. 111 00:05:14,447 --> 00:05:16,317 Brooks: Theres only one way to get even. 112 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:18,746 You have to bring him down with ridicule, 113 00:05:18,752 --> 00:05:21,952 and its been one of my life‐long jobs 114 00:05:21,955 --> 00:05:26,365 has been to make the world laugh at Adolf Hitler. 115 00:05:27,627 --> 00:05:32,167 ♪ Hes absolutely going ♪ 116 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,395 Man: You never had any aspirations to be serious. 117 00:05:34,401 --> 00:05:35,771 Bullshit. 118 00:05:35,769 --> 00:05:37,399 All my films are serious. 119 00:05:37,404 --> 00:05:38,844 You examine any one of them, theyre serious, 120 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,869 because they are passionate, 121 00:05:40,874 --> 00:05:42,684 and they depict human behavior 122 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:45,136 at given points in the history of humanity. 123 00:05:51,785 --> 00:05:55,385 Oswalt: Mel Brooks grew up loving westerns. 124 00:05:55,388 --> 00:05:58,118 And as he got older, still loved them from his childhood, 125 00:05:58,124 --> 00:06:00,064 but you look back on some of them and go, 126 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:01,690 "Wow, thats really racist. 127 00:06:01,695 --> 00:06:04,055 Some of this stuff is really messed up." 128 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:06,034 And thats where "Blazing Saddles" comes from. 129 00:06:06,032 --> 00:06:08,272 Apatow: "Blazing Saddles" was very satirical, 130 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:09,598 but it did it by... ‐[ Belches ] 131 00:06:09,603 --> 00:06:12,473 ...making you shit your pants laughing. 132 00:06:12,472 --> 00:06:13,842 [ Flatulates ] 133 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:17,340 What he manages to do with the high and the low, 134 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:18,644 I think, is astonishing. 135 00:06:18,645 --> 00:06:20,645 You can have one scene where a horse 136 00:06:20,647 --> 00:06:22,317 is knocked out with a punch, 137 00:06:22,315 --> 00:06:24,145 and then deal with race relations 138 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:26,890 about an African‐American sheriff. 139 00:06:26,887 --> 00:06:28,547 Thats pretty heady stuff. 140 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:31,555 As chairman of the welcoming committee, 141 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:34,828 it is my privilege to extent a laurel 142 00:06:34,828 --> 00:06:38,098 and hearty handshake to our new... 143 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,900 ...nigger. 144 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:44,503 Apatow: Mel Brooks tells a story 145 00:06:44,504 --> 00:06:48,574 about saying to the head of the studio, "Can I do this?" 146 00:06:48,575 --> 00:06:50,835 And the head of the studio is saying, 147 00:06:50,844 --> 00:06:52,814 "Well, if youre gonna walk up to the bell, 148 00:06:52,812 --> 00:06:54,812 you got to ring it." 149 00:06:54,814 --> 00:06:57,354 And Mel Brooks rings it. 150 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:59,350 You cant make a successful comedy 151 00:06:59,352 --> 00:07:01,852 that doesnt say something about the system, 152 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:04,885 about the social structure, about prejudice, 153 00:07:04,891 --> 00:07:06,761 about people, about behavior. 154 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,830 "Blazing Saddles" is all about racial prejudice. 155 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:11,198 Its all about the hypocritical west 156 00:07:11,197 --> 00:07:12,567 shitting all over a black sheriff 157 00:07:12,565 --> 00:07:13,925 and wanting him dead. 158 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:16,044 [ Gasping ] 159 00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:19,906 And now for my next impression, Jesse Owens! 160 00:07:19,906 --> 00:07:21,206 Seize them! 161 00:07:21,207 --> 00:07:26,547 Satire is something that touches the heart of everyone. 162 00:07:26,546 --> 00:07:30,746 We can go, "This is a problem that our society has." 163 00:07:30,750 --> 00:07:33,920 Nesteroff: "Blazing Saddles" is comedys indictment of racism. 164 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,490 They darker than us. 165 00:07:35,488 --> 00:07:36,888 And showing its absurdity 166 00:07:36,890 --> 00:07:39,930 in this great parody of an American genre. 167 00:07:39,926 --> 00:07:42,756 [ Electricity crackles ] Life! 168 00:07:42,762 --> 00:07:45,062 Life, do you hear me?! 169 00:07:45,065 --> 00:07:47,565 There was a certain grammar to those old movies, 170 00:07:47,567 --> 00:07:51,237 and Mel Brooks stuck to the form of them. 171 00:07:51,237 --> 00:07:53,167 He just twisted it a little bit here and there, 172 00:07:53,173 --> 00:07:54,473 and its brilliant. 173 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:58,084 You see his love of cinema in all of his parodies. 174 00:07:58,078 --> 00:08:01,108 "High Anxiety" is a satire of all the Hitchcock films. 175 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:04,154 And "Silent Movie," obviously, a satire of silent movies. 176 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:06,520 And "Spaceballs," a satire of George Lucas. 177 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:09,819 May the Schwartz be with you! 178 00:08:09,823 --> 00:08:12,733 What I love about him is lots of times, people say, 179 00:08:12,726 --> 00:08:15,796 "Oh, that is very funny, but we cant say that." 180 00:08:15,795 --> 00:08:18,555 Mel would go, "Thats very funny, 181 00:08:18,565 --> 00:08:20,125 were gonna say that." 182 00:08:20,133 --> 00:08:22,573 Oh! 183 00:08:22,569 --> 00:08:24,839 It good to be the king. 184 00:08:33,413 --> 00:08:36,223 The magazine Mad magazine, 185 00:08:36,216 --> 00:08:38,986 the edition number one, 186 00:08:38,985 --> 00:08:42,815 the date, 1952. 187 00:08:42,822 --> 00:08:44,322 In the 40s, there were things 188 00:08:44,324 --> 00:08:45,994 that you should never joke about ‐‐ 189 00:08:45,992 --> 00:08:48,332 religion, politics. 190 00:08:48,328 --> 00:08:49,698 Things were still sacred. 191 00:08:49,696 --> 00:08:51,726 Mad magazine helped change that. 192 00:08:51,731 --> 00:08:53,371 It was very, very influential. 193 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:55,936 It was embraced by the comedy community, 194 00:08:55,935 --> 00:08:58,195 and it was sort of like a precursor 195 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:00,744 to underground comics in the late 60s. 196 00:09:00,740 --> 00:09:02,170 Yankovic: Id never been exposed 197 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:04,075 to that kind of irreverent humor before. 198 00:09:04,077 --> 00:09:06,607 It was sort of like shaking your fist at authority 199 00:09:06,613 --> 00:09:08,713 in a very clever and funny way. 200 00:09:08,715 --> 00:09:10,375 In case youre not familiar with Mad, 201 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:12,423 its a magazine of broad satire aimed 202 00:09:12,419 --> 00:09:15,189 at practically everything Americans hold dear ‐‐ 203 00:09:15,188 --> 00:09:17,718 sex, success, beauty, patriotism, 204 00:09:17,724 --> 00:09:19,734 anti‐patriotism, pro‐war groups, 205 00:09:19,726 --> 00:09:21,126 anti‐war groups. 206 00:09:21,127 --> 00:09:22,927 You name it, in one issue or another, 207 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:25,629 Mad has aimed its blunt instrument at it. 208 00:09:25,632 --> 00:09:27,402 Smith: I remember when I was a kid, begging my father 209 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,870 to buy the issue of "King Kong" Mad magazine 210 00:09:29,869 --> 00:09:32,409 because "Network" was also parodied. 211 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:33,705 And I remember telling my dad, 212 00:09:33,706 --> 00:09:35,036 like, "Dad, theyre doing Network. 213 00:09:35,041 --> 00:09:36,841 Its called Nutwork, and you liked Network," 214 00:09:36,843 --> 00:09:38,883 trying to sell him on it. Like, youll enjoy this, too ‐‐ 215 00:09:38,878 --> 00:09:41,478 as if hed ever read Mad magazine. 216 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:44,221 Mad magazine was aggressive to a certain extent, 217 00:09:44,217 --> 00:09:45,717 but they always pulled their punches. 218 00:09:45,718 --> 00:09:49,488 It was nothing that would get you thrown out of school. 219 00:09:49,489 --> 00:09:51,789 Now, National Lampoon put nothing in there 220 00:09:51,791 --> 00:09:53,831 that wouldnt get you kicked out of school. 221 00:09:53,827 --> 00:09:55,657 You know, here was a magazine 222 00:09:55,662 --> 00:09:57,302 to hide from your parents, you know? 223 00:09:57,297 --> 00:09:58,427 And your wife. 224 00:09:58,431 --> 00:10:01,371 It had, like, some nasty pictures in it. 225 00:10:01,367 --> 00:10:04,637 These are not magazines you can open in this office now. 226 00:10:04,637 --> 00:10:05,937 Thats all I can say. 227 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:07,139 [ Laughs ] 228 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:09,710 They are so politically incorrect. 229 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:12,809 ORourke: To see people using humor as a weapon 230 00:10:12,812 --> 00:10:16,122 the way that the kids that started National Lampoon did 231 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:19,646 was just, I thought, "This is great." 232 00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:23,592 Its often the only magazine that a lot of younger hip people 233 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:25,590 today read. 234 00:10:25,592 --> 00:10:29,762 And why that is is, I think they trust us. 235 00:10:29,762 --> 00:10:32,202 Beatts: Another clue to the success of the magazine 236 00:10:32,198 --> 00:10:34,098 was that unlike Mad magazine, 237 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:37,700 all the artwork was done very intentionally 238 00:10:37,704 --> 00:10:40,814 to replicate whatever was being parodied. 239 00:10:40,807 --> 00:10:44,277 And that was a big difference from what had been 240 00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:46,347 in the counterculture prior to that. 241 00:10:46,346 --> 00:10:48,506 The 1970s were a fertile time for humor, 242 00:10:48,515 --> 00:10:52,815 and you people were bitter, caustic, smutty, 243 00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:54,389 dirty, funny, and... 244 00:10:54,387 --> 00:10:55,987 Drunk. ...drunk, 245 00:10:55,989 --> 00:10:57,759 and largely outrageous. 246 00:10:57,757 --> 00:11:00,027 The hopes of the 60s had given way 247 00:11:00,026 --> 00:11:01,826 to the frustrations of the 70s. 248 00:11:01,828 --> 00:11:04,498 The Vietnam War was obviously lost. 249 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:06,267 The civil rights movement had won, 250 00:11:06,266 --> 00:11:08,426 and the argument was over, but, of course, it wasnt. 251 00:11:08,434 --> 00:11:10,544 The craziness of that period is one of the things 252 00:11:10,537 --> 00:11:12,137 that made National Lampoon a success. 253 00:11:12,138 --> 00:11:14,238 People needed to laugh. 254 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,210 Woman: You did a very interesting parody 255 00:11:16,209 --> 00:11:18,509 of "The Joy of Sex," "The Job of Sex." 256 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:20,051 Kelly: We called the book "The Job of Sex," 257 00:11:20,046 --> 00:11:21,646 and divided it up into punching in, 258 00:11:21,648 --> 00:11:25,888 down time, overtime, on the job injuries, 259 00:11:25,885 --> 00:11:28,385 and workmans compensation. 260 00:11:28,388 --> 00:11:29,918 Beatts: At the National Lampoon, 261 00:11:29,923 --> 00:11:35,493 there was certainly an enjoyment of being edgy and shocking. 262 00:11:35,495 --> 00:11:39,225 Youre listening to the National Lampoon Radio Hour. 263 00:11:39,232 --> 00:11:41,072 Yankovic: The National Lampoon Radio Hour 264 00:11:41,067 --> 00:11:43,167 was a syndicated radio show 265 00:11:43,169 --> 00:11:44,899 written and produced by the National Lampoon, 266 00:11:44,904 --> 00:11:47,314 which was magazine an audio form. 267 00:11:47,307 --> 00:11:49,237 And thats where I was first exposed 268 00:11:49,242 --> 00:11:50,982 to people that went on to much bigger fame, 269 00:11:50,977 --> 00:11:52,647 people like Bill Murray. 270 00:11:52,645 --> 00:11:54,205 A lot of the "Saturday Night Live" people 271 00:11:54,214 --> 00:11:56,154 started out as National Lampoon people. 272 00:11:56,149 --> 00:11:59,249 Lets do 20 face slaps. 273 00:11:59,252 --> 00:12:02,522 Gilda and John did the show in this sort of weird space. 274 00:12:02,522 --> 00:12:04,462 It was under the Time‐Life Building. 275 00:12:04,457 --> 00:12:05,827 Announcer: They are the cast of the new 276 00:12:05,825 --> 00:12:07,325 National Lampoon show, 277 00:12:07,327 --> 00:12:10,497 which opens this Friday at the new Palladium Cabaret. 278 00:12:10,496 --> 00:12:14,226 And then Lorne Michaels, he came in and poached 279 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:15,504 all these people. 280 00:12:15,501 --> 00:12:16,541 [ Laughs ] 281 00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:17,836 ‐Gilda Radner. ‐Gilda. 282 00:12:17,837 --> 00:12:20,137 John Belushi. And, uh... 283 00:12:20,139 --> 00:12:21,509 Laraine Newman. 284 00:12:21,507 --> 00:12:24,277 Lorne Michaels pitched "SNL" to me as a cross 285 00:12:24,277 --> 00:12:27,047 between "Monty Python" and "60 Minutes." 286 00:12:27,046 --> 00:12:28,946 He said, "Its gonna work." 287 00:12:28,948 --> 00:12:32,818 Man: For outstanding comedy, variety, or music series, 288 00:12:32,819 --> 00:12:35,319 NBCs "Saturday Night." 289 00:12:35,321 --> 00:12:37,091 Id also like to thank the city of New York 290 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:41,730 for the correct combination of, um... 291 00:12:41,728 --> 00:12:43,358 rejection and alienation, 292 00:12:43,363 --> 00:12:45,363 which keeps the comedy spirit alive. 293 00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:46,595 [ Laughter ] 294 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:49,029 [ Gasps ] 295 00:12:49,035 --> 00:12:50,835 OBrien: When something really revolutionary happens, 296 00:12:50,837 --> 00:12:53,637 when you first see it, it should look wrong. 297 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,170 And "Saturday Night Live," when you first saw it, 298 00:12:55,174 --> 00:12:56,884 what is this? 299 00:12:56,876 --> 00:12:58,836 Miller: Rule number one is if youre gonna do parody, 300 00:12:58,845 --> 00:13:00,945 you better have somebody who can deliver it ‐‐ 301 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:03,377 both in the writers room and on stage. 302 00:13:03,383 --> 00:13:04,453 Hey, Norton?! 303 00:13:04,450 --> 00:13:07,150 Hey, Robby Bee. 304 00:13:07,153 --> 00:13:09,263 Newman: What made "Saturday Night Live" different 305 00:13:09,255 --> 00:13:11,855 was this phenomenon that happened in the 60s, 306 00:13:11,858 --> 00:13:15,228 which was the youth culture and the youth market. 307 00:13:15,228 --> 00:13:16,798 Our show was the first one 308 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:20,066 to really have a voice for a younger generation. 309 00:13:20,066 --> 00:13:24,296 Land Shark! Still the cleverest species of them all. 310 00:13:24,304 --> 00:13:26,714 Franken: It was the first time that our generation 311 00:13:26,706 --> 00:13:29,636 was allowed to do TV, 312 00:13:29,642 --> 00:13:31,882 and be on TV and write TV. 313 00:13:31,878 --> 00:13:34,548 And so we were parodying things 314 00:13:34,547 --> 00:13:36,977 that "The Carol Burnett Show" didnt parody. 315 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:39,223 Your mama eats kitty litter. 316 00:13:39,218 --> 00:13:43,288 Dont nobody talk about my mama! 317 00:13:43,289 --> 00:13:45,659 I got put in charge of producing the commercial parodies 318 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:48,128 because I had worked in advertising. 319 00:13:48,127 --> 00:13:50,397 You have to establish the product, 320 00:13:50,396 --> 00:13:52,126 say why people need it, 321 00:13:52,131 --> 00:13:54,601 and also allow for the comedy. 322 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,800 [ Laughs ] 323 00:13:55,802 --> 00:13:57,842 I have a certain fondness for Royal Deluxe II 324 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,437 where the rabbi circumcises a baby 325 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,710 in the back seat of a car 326 00:14:01,708 --> 00:14:05,738 to show how smooth the ride of the car is. 327 00:14:05,745 --> 00:14:08,605 Commercial parodies became a kind of trademark 328 00:14:08,614 --> 00:14:09,984 of "Saturday Night Live." 329 00:14:09,982 --> 00:14:12,722 Woman: Hey, You... 330 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:16,219 Just one whiff does the trick. 331 00:14:16,222 --> 00:14:19,062 Some of their parodies were really speaking to the times. 332 00:14:19,058 --> 00:14:20,828 Hey, you. 333 00:14:20,827 --> 00:14:23,457 In the sexual awakening of the 60s and 70s, 334 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:25,233 there was a connection to reality. 335 00:14:25,231 --> 00:14:27,771 Woman: Hey, You, for that special someone 336 00:14:27,767 --> 00:14:29,967 you never expect to see again. 337 00:14:32,472 --> 00:14:34,272 Michaels: When you have 18 minutes of commercials 338 00:14:34,273 --> 00:14:36,183 in your time period, then to not comment 339 00:14:36,175 --> 00:14:39,445 on commercials would be ridiculous. 340 00:14:39,445 --> 00:14:42,675 Who am I? Why am I here? 341 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:45,022 When Im done rolling up this booger, 342 00:14:45,017 --> 00:14:49,147 should I eat it or throw it out the window? 343 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:53,155 The commercial parodies endure because they reflected 344 00:14:53,159 --> 00:14:54,729 not only the culture at the time... 345 00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:56,327 Super Colon Blow? 346 00:14:56,329 --> 00:14:57,759 ...but also the way 347 00:14:57,764 --> 00:15:00,334 that Madison Avenue tried to sell things. 348 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:01,703 Where are all out of Cracklin Oat Flakes. 349 00:15:01,701 --> 00:15:03,171 How about new Cracklin Oat Flakes, 350 00:15:03,169 --> 00:15:04,569 now with ecstasy? 351 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:08,470 McKay: We get to talk back to these corporate monoliths. 352 00:15:08,474 --> 00:15:10,114 Everywhere we go, theres billboards. 353 00:15:10,109 --> 00:15:12,439 Every time we turn on the TV, theres commercials. 354 00:15:12,445 --> 00:15:15,645 And its the one time "SNL" has really figured it out 355 00:15:15,648 --> 00:15:16,978 where you can strike back. 356 00:15:16,983 --> 00:15:19,023 I cant hear you, dude! 357 00:15:19,018 --> 00:15:20,948 What? 358 00:15:20,953 --> 00:15:22,393 Piece of crap! 359 00:15:22,388 --> 00:15:24,888 Hey, I think that phone you bought me is busted. 360 00:15:32,698 --> 00:15:37,468 Announcer: Samuel L. Bronkowitz presents "Cleopatra Schwartz." 361 00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:39,640 Never again will one man and one woman 362 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:41,739 defy such incredible odds. 363 00:15:41,741 --> 00:15:43,181 [ Gunfire ] 364 00:15:43,176 --> 00:15:46,276 Together, no one could stop them. 365 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:49,149 I dont think parody and satire is important. 366 00:15:49,148 --> 00:15:51,978 But its important to me 367 00:15:51,984 --> 00:15:54,794 because, you know, Ive done it a lot. 368 00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:58,387 "Kentucky Fried Movie" started with Kentucky Fried Theater. 369 00:15:58,391 --> 00:16:03,061 We did these sketches in 1971 in Madison, Wisconsin, 370 00:16:03,062 --> 00:16:05,662 and 1972, moved the show to L. A. 371 00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:06,995 Man: Quiet, please! Hold still. 372 00:16:06,999 --> 00:16:11,239 We wanted to make that show into a movie. 373 00:16:11,237 --> 00:16:13,137 ‐Poisonous fish. ‐Poisonous fish. 374 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:16,639 "Kentucky Fried Movie" was just doing individual bits 375 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:18,512 without a story. 376 00:16:18,511 --> 00:16:20,381 Im not wearing any pants. 377 00:16:20,379 --> 00:16:22,309 Film at 11:00. 378 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:23,845 Jerry Zucker: What we were trying to do 379 00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:27,390 with "Kentucky Friend Movie" was get into the movie business. 380 00:16:27,386 --> 00:16:31,016 Theres a certain Z‐A‐Z sense of humor, whatever that is. 381 00:16:31,023 --> 00:16:35,833 For me, the most fun was making David and Jim laugh. 382 00:16:35,828 --> 00:16:39,768 We each trusted the other two as arbiters of whether our ideas 383 00:16:39,765 --> 00:16:41,365 were funny or not. 384 00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:44,967 Something about the three of us, we had a common vision. 385 00:16:44,971 --> 00:16:47,711 Sound your alarm bell now! 386 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:48,967 [ Alarm blares ] 387 00:16:48,975 --> 00:16:52,575 All right now, everybody, get in crash positions! 388 00:16:52,578 --> 00:16:57,148 McKay: "Airplane" had that anarchic anything‐can‐happen quality. 389 00:16:57,149 --> 00:16:58,949 That, to me, is a seminal movie. 390 00:16:58,951 --> 00:17:00,651 That, to me, is a movie 391 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:03,763 that changed my perspective on comedy. 392 00:17:03,756 --> 00:17:06,486 Okay, boys, lets get some pictures. 393 00:17:06,492 --> 00:17:09,192 OBrien: These brilliant people had collected 394 00:17:09,195 --> 00:17:14,295 100,000 of the funniest jokes and crammed them into a movie, 395 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:17,740 and they were so relentlessly funny. 396 00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:19,737 What the hells going on up there? 397 00:17:19,739 --> 00:17:23,679 Every moment of it, it transports you to the land 398 00:17:23,676 --> 00:17:26,076 of magic mushrooms. 399 00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:28,448 If youre wondering what magic mushrooms feels like, 400 00:17:28,447 --> 00:17:31,677 it feels like you are "Airplane." 401 00:17:31,684 --> 00:17:33,354 Letterman: Was the idea for this motion picture 402 00:17:33,352 --> 00:17:36,862 a well‐planned vehicle or more accidental in nature? 403 00:17:36,856 --> 00:17:39,956 We all watched a movie on late‐night television 404 00:17:39,959 --> 00:17:42,229 called "Zero Hour," and that actually was lucky, 405 00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:44,058 because it was essentially, 406 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:45,803 well, at least a very similar plot 407 00:17:45,798 --> 00:17:47,898 to what "Airplane" is. 408 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,900 David Zucker: We have never found a movie since 409 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:52,602 that was as perfect for satire or parody. 410 00:17:52,605 --> 00:17:55,835 It worked great, but not a joke in the whole thing. 411 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:57,811 But we thought it was hilarious. 412 00:17:57,810 --> 00:17:58,910 Youd better tell the captain. 413 00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:00,581 Weve got to land as soon as we can. 414 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,180 This woman has to be gotten to a hospital. 415 00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:03,481 What do you think it is? 416 00:18:03,482 --> 00:18:04,822 Well, I cant be sure yet. 417 00:18:04,817 --> 00:18:06,647 But I know its serious enough to land at the nearest city 418 00:18:06,652 --> 00:18:08,192 with hospital facilities. 419 00:18:08,187 --> 00:18:09,887 Better tell the captain I want to speak to him. 420 00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:12,989 ‐Certainly. ‐Its really film noir acting. 421 00:18:12,992 --> 00:18:14,492 Please help me. 422 00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:17,303 Jerry Zucker: Not only does it fit the style of acting 423 00:18:17,296 --> 00:18:21,026 that we love, but also because we had the film to look at, 424 00:18:21,033 --> 00:18:22,973 there were a lot of shots that we just took. 425 00:18:22,969 --> 00:18:24,599 We said, "Hey, this is great." 426 00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:26,244 We wanted to go shot for shot, 427 00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:28,538 so it really would look like an old movie. 428 00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:31,781 In fact, scene for scene, we just copied it. 429 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:33,347 Because of my mistake, 430 00:18:33,346 --> 00:18:35,406 six men didnt return from that raid. 431 00:18:35,414 --> 00:18:39,284 Because of my mistake, six men didnt return from that raid. 432 00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,845 ‐We have visitors. ‐Hello. 433 00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:42,993 ‐Hi. ‐We have a visitor. 434 00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:45,219 ‐Hello. ‐Hi. 435 00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:48,094 Basically, what we do is just set up familiar situations 436 00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:51,734 and then we reverse the audiences expectation 437 00:18:51,731 --> 00:18:52,701 of the outcome. 438 00:18:52,698 --> 00:18:53,798 Would you like to have it? 439 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,099 Thank you. Thanks a lot. 440 00:18:56,102 --> 00:18:58,102 Sure. You ever been in a cockpit before? 441 00:18:58,104 --> 00:19:01,514 No, sir, Ive never been up in a plane before. 442 00:19:01,507 --> 00:19:05,677 You ever seen a grown man naked? 443 00:19:05,678 --> 00:19:08,478 Jerry Zucker: The acting style and the committing 444 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:12,521 to the absolutely serious dramatic portrayal of the roles 445 00:19:12,518 --> 00:19:14,118 is the essence of the film 446 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,260 and why we insisted on directing it. 447 00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:17,485 You better tell the captain 448 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,160 weve got to land as soon as we can. 449 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:20,888 This woman has to be gotten to a hospital. 450 00:19:20,893 --> 00:19:22,593 A hospital? What is it? 451 00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:23,955 Its a big building with patients, 452 00:19:23,963 --> 00:19:25,303 but thats not important right now. 453 00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:27,367 Tell the captain I must speak to him. 454 00:19:27,366 --> 00:19:28,396 Certainly. 455 00:19:28,401 --> 00:19:30,471 Leslie was such a character actor, 456 00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:31,969 unknown at the time. 457 00:19:31,971 --> 00:19:33,571 Jerry Zucker: Im amazed that he could have done 458 00:19:33,572 --> 00:19:35,442 all those serious movies all those years, 459 00:19:35,441 --> 00:19:37,811 cause he really is a closet comedian. 460 00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:42,480 And, well, out of the closet after we got through with him. 461 00:19:42,481 --> 00:19:44,921 When I see five weirdos dressed in togas 462 00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:46,487 stabbing a guy in the middle of the park 463 00:19:46,485 --> 00:19:48,885 in full view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards. 464 00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:50,088 Thats my policy. 465 00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:52,689 That was a Shakespeare in the Park production 466 00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:56,032 of "Julius Caesar," you moron. 467 00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:58,258 David Zucker: Even the most crazy, zany comedy 468 00:19:58,264 --> 00:20:00,434 still needs a good story. 469 00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:02,533 By the time we got to "The Naked Gun," 470 00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:06,105 we knew how to do the plot and the character. 471 00:20:06,105 --> 00:20:09,405 Everywhere I look, something reminds me of her. 472 00:20:09,408 --> 00:20:11,508 We love doing visual puns. 473 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:13,680 You just have to stay ahead of the audience. 474 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,579 A lot of people see the joke developing. 475 00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:20,252 Its always a contest to beat them to the punch. 476 00:20:21,487 --> 00:20:22,617 Bingo. 477 00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:25,091 The audience cant be expecting it, 478 00:20:25,091 --> 00:20:27,691 otherwise, I mean, it wont be funny. 479 00:20:30,162 --> 00:20:33,702 ‐Nice beaver. ‐Thank you. 480 00:20:33,699 --> 00:20:36,399 I just had it stuffed. ‐Let me help you with that. 481 00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:38,172 Jerry Zucker: There are certain kinds of jokes 482 00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:42,040 that the sexual content is in the eye of the beholder. 483 00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:44,781 Were just talking about this stuffed beaver up there. 484 00:20:44,777 --> 00:20:47,177 We dont mean anything sexual, you know. 485 00:20:47,179 --> 00:20:49,309 And so thats ‐‐ thats your fault 486 00:20:49,315 --> 00:20:51,345 if you think that. 487 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,420 Yankovic: The Zucker brothers proved this time and again. 488 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:55,119 Its somehow not as funny 489 00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:58,121 to have some kind of goofy guy being goofy, 490 00:20:58,124 --> 00:21:00,694 but it works when you have serious people 491 00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:03,263 doing outrageous things. 492 00:21:05,331 --> 00:21:08,601 Jerry Zucker: If we had anything to do with all the great satires 493 00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,371 that came after us, 494 00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:12,799 Im thrilled, if we encouraged people. 495 00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:14,865 That smells like pure gasoline. 496 00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:16,514 Theyve done studies, you know. 497 00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:20,849 60% of the time, it works every time. 498 00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:23,246 That doesnt make sense. 499 00:21:23,249 --> 00:21:26,319 Maybe people said, "Oh, gee, I could do that, you know. 500 00:21:26,318 --> 00:21:28,018 That doesnt look that difficult." 501 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,820 Oh, behave. 502 00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:31,722 [ Laughs ] Yeah. 503 00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:33,164 Yeah, baby! 504 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:35,459 Yeah. 505 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:44,795 Ladies and gentlemen, Id like to reaffirm 506 00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:47,574 that the art of ventriloquism is not dead. 507 00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:50,883 Would you welcome the very funny Mr. Albert Brooks. 508 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:52,406 [ Applause ] 509 00:21:52,411 --> 00:21:55,651 I was around a lot of comedians in my group. 510 00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:58,218 I mean, with Billy Crystal and Robin Williams. 511 00:21:58,217 --> 00:21:59,987 Whenever Albert was in the group, 512 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:02,715 everybody recognized that there was nobody like that. 513 00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:04,191 It was like a challenge dance. 514 00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:06,960 You just stepped back and let him go. 515 00:22:06,959 --> 00:22:08,389 Well, good evening, everybody. 516 00:22:08,394 --> 00:22:10,404 Yes, hello, everybody! 517 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:15,265 Im Dave. And Im Danny. 518 00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:17,137 Nesteroff: When you see early Albert Brooks footage, 519 00:22:17,136 --> 00:22:19,966 hes often parodying old‐school show business. 520 00:22:19,972 --> 00:22:20,842 Thats what he knew. 521 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,240 His father was a comedian, 522 00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:24,381 his brother is a comedian. 523 00:22:24,376 --> 00:22:26,576 Albert was very meta, and all of his stuff 524 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,949 was about the conventions of the trade. 525 00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:32,378 Danny and Dave was about the lameness of ventriloquism. 526 00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:33,594 You know, Danny, Im a little nervous 527 00:22:33,586 --> 00:22:35,546 being here on television and everything. 528 00:22:35,554 --> 00:22:36,824 Well, why dont you have a cigarette? 529 00:22:36,822 --> 00:22:39,592 That always calms you down. 530 00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:42,692 Great. 531 00:22:42,695 --> 00:22:44,425 Shearer: There was content, there was funniness, 532 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:46,160 but the target of the comedy 533 00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:48,695 was the standard forms of show business. 534 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:50,041 Hello. 535 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:51,695 Im Albert Brooks. 536 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,974 And Im speaking to you on behalf 537 00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:56,383 of the famous School for Comedians. 538 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,435 One of the first things I ever saw him do 539 00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:00,184 was the School for Comedians. 540 00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:02,209 Lets see how these kids are doing. 541 00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:05,784 He was walking past the spit‐take class. 542 00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:10,264 Ive just walked into the room. Now start to drink. 543 00:23:10,256 --> 00:23:12,756 Good. Now I speak. 544 00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:14,728 Guess what! I just heard from the bank, 545 00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:16,257 and not only dont you have any money, 546 00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:18,702 but your sister is dead! 547 00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:21,395 That was funny. 548 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,870 Newman: What was special about him 549 00:23:22,868 --> 00:23:25,498 was his singular vision, his style. 550 00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:28,344 This was alternative comedy, for sure. 551 00:23:29,108 --> 00:23:31,208 During the next hour, you will see the first 552 00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:35,310 in a series of programs entitled "An American Family." 553 00:23:35,314 --> 00:23:37,224 Shearer: Albert had been watching "An American Family," 554 00:23:37,216 --> 00:23:38,816 which was the first reality show. 555 00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:39,887 It was on PBS. 556 00:23:39,885 --> 00:23:42,545 They spent a year filming a real family, 557 00:23:42,554 --> 00:23:43,694 the "Loud" family. 558 00:23:43,689 --> 00:23:46,059 You got all the boys, I got all the girls. 559 00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:47,828 You cant beat it. 560 00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:49,896 Both of us shared the sense 561 00:23:49,895 --> 00:23:52,055 that there was a lie at the heart of this, 562 00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:54,834 which is that the camera can be there 563 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:56,373 without changing things. 564 00:23:56,368 --> 00:23:58,838 When we did "Real Life," the movie together, 565 00:23:58,837 --> 00:24:02,167 the underlying motion was to poke fun at that idea. 566 00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:04,044 Welcome home! Aloha! 567 00:24:04,043 --> 00:24:05,443 Look at this now! Ah. 568 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:08,314 Grodin: And Albert Brooks plays himself, a filmmaker, 569 00:24:08,314 --> 00:24:10,924 and I play the head of this American family 570 00:24:10,916 --> 00:24:14,016 that has been chosen to be filmed for a year. 571 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:18,655 Honey, do you think its safe for you to be eating 572 00:24:18,657 --> 00:24:22,557 with your heating pad in your lap? 573 00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:26,131 I have terrible cramps, I am bleeding profusely, 574 00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:28,271 and I want to vomit on the table. 575 00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:29,937 [ Chuckles ] 576 00:24:29,935 --> 00:24:31,735 What are you doing? 577 00:24:31,737 --> 00:24:33,137 No, I just want to let them know 578 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:35,668 that this is not the way we usually talk, 579 00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:38,244 especially at the dinner table. 580 00:24:38,243 --> 00:24:40,853 Sacks: "Real Life" is about reality TV. 581 00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:43,746 And this was years before it had even existed. 582 00:24:43,749 --> 00:24:46,319 So Albert Brooks is dealing on a whole different level. 583 00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:48,518 Whereas with "Spinal Tap," youre making fun 584 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,960 of a group of idiots who are likable, 585 00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:52,786 but not the smartest people in the world. 586 00:24:52,791 --> 00:24:54,261 Hi, Im Rob Reiner. 587 00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:55,829 Ive just directed my first feature film 588 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:56,858 for Embassy Pictures. 589 00:24:56,862 --> 00:24:58,232 Its called "Spinal Tap." 590 00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:00,500 Its a comedy about a British rock and roll band. 591 00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:02,799 Weide: "Spinal Tap" was a mockumentary. 592 00:25:02,801 --> 00:25:03,901 It was a mock‐documentary. 593 00:25:03,902 --> 00:25:05,642 Dialogue wasnt written, it was improvised, 594 00:25:05,637 --> 00:25:07,867 but it was shot like a documentary. 595 00:25:07,873 --> 00:25:09,473 Reiner: During the "Flower People" period, 596 00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:10,735 who was your drummer? 597 00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:15,013 It was tragic, really. He exploded on stage. 598 00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,724 Just like that. ‐He just went up. 599 00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:20,885 He just was like a flash of green light... 600 00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:23,516 and that was it. Nothing was left. 601 00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:27,362 You know, dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. 602 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,329 Its just not really widely reported. 603 00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:33,229 [ Spinal Taps "Big Bottom" plays ] 604 00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:34,972 Shearer: Movies kept getting rock and roll wrong. 605 00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:38,937 And so the real drive of the project was, 606 00:25:38,937 --> 00:25:40,667 "Its not that hard, lets get it right." 607 00:25:40,672 --> 00:25:45,082 ♪ My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo ♪ 608 00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:49,507 ♪ Id like to sink her with my pink torpedo ♪ 609 00:25:49,515 --> 00:25:51,015 ♪ Big bottom ♪ 610 00:25:51,016 --> 00:25:53,546 Helps to really like something enough to pay 611 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:54,622 close attention to it 612 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,290 so that when time comes to parodize it, 613 00:25:56,288 --> 00:25:57,818 it comes naturally. 614 00:25:57,823 --> 00:25:59,223 Shearer: Its not parodize lost. 615 00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:00,764 ‐Ooh. ‐Oh, thats not bad. 616 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:03,529 Is that in the film? ‐No, it will be in the sequel. 617 00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:06,729 How much more black could this be, and the answer is... 618 00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:08,972 ...none, none more black. 619 00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:11,867 ‐Rock and roll! ‐We made this movie, 620 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:14,640 and the guy who was shooting it, I hired him because he had shot 621 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,910 all these rock and roll documentaries. 622 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,678 And I thought hell be perfect. 623 00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:20,346 Hello, Cleveland! Hello, Cleveland! 624 00:26:20,345 --> 00:26:21,905 And hes watching this, and he says, 625 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:24,024 "Whats funny about this? 626 00:26:24,016 --> 00:26:25,516 This isnt funny. 627 00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:27,847 This is exactly what goes on." 628 00:26:27,853 --> 00:26:29,353 But, to me, that was a great compliment 629 00:26:29,354 --> 00:26:32,464 because it was saying were capturing real life 630 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:36,028 what people actually experience in that rock and roll world, 631 00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:37,728 and that, to me, is the best comedy, 632 00:26:37,729 --> 00:26:41,299 the comedy that connects with real experience. 633 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,040 Weide: People said, "Oh, this is so new." 634 00:26:44,036 --> 00:26:45,736 And then you say, "Well, no, actually, 635 00:26:45,737 --> 00:26:47,037 you could take that back 636 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,169 to Woody Allens Take the Money and Run." 637 00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:51,114 Nesteroff: Woody Allens "Zelig," 638 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:53,240 "The Rutles" with Eric Idle 639 00:26:53,245 --> 00:26:55,405 was a mockumentary that was a precursor. 640 00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:57,684 But "Spinal Tap" was the one 641 00:26:57,683 --> 00:27:00,653 that really became a huge critical success. 642 00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:03,662 Now, mockumentary is a style 643 00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:06,355 that has infiltrated not just cinema, but television. 644 00:27:06,358 --> 00:27:08,558 That herky‐jerky camera motion 645 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,030 we see on "Modern Family" or "The Office." 646 00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:13,629 Christopher Guests whole trajectory 647 00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,132 has been mockumentary. 648 00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:17,344 Hey, judge, look at me. 649 00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:19,296 His stuff is very specific. 650 00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:20,674 ‐Its in the crate! ‐Where is it? 651 00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:21,972 Its in the crate! 652 00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:25,544 The fact that it was improvised, that became a style 653 00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:26,854 of storytelling. 654 00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:30,675 ♪ Midnight at the Oasis ♪ 655 00:27:30,682 --> 00:27:32,582 Nesteroff: And any time that you introduce something 656 00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:36,454 that is effective and nothing like everything else... 657 00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:37,885 Really good. 658 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:40,290 ...thats where you get something thats revolutionary. 659 00:27:40,292 --> 00:27:42,192 ♪ Like a surgeon ♪ 660 00:27:42,194 --> 00:27:43,634 [ Chainsaw motor revs ] 661 00:27:43,629 --> 00:27:46,999 ♪ Cutting for the very first time ♪ 662 00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:50,069 Ive just always thought that rock and roll should be fun, 663 00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:52,198 which is why its healthy for me to sometimes 664 00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:54,574 prick the bubble of pretentiousness 665 00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:56,473 that sometimes pervades the industry. 666 00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:59,205 ♪ Baby, I love rocky road ♪ 667 00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:01,911 ♪ So wont you go and buy half a gallon, baby ♪ 668 00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:03,984 ♪ I love rocky road ♪ 669 00:28:03,982 --> 00:28:08,152 ♪ So have another triple scoop with me ♪ 670 00:28:08,153 --> 00:28:10,193 I give myself several guidelines 671 00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:12,819 and parameters when Im writing my parody songs. 672 00:28:12,824 --> 00:28:15,464 It needs to be funny even if people arent familiar 673 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:16,800 with the original source material. 674 00:28:16,795 --> 00:28:18,695 But I would say probably 90% of the time, 675 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,897 Im just dealing with what is a very current, 676 00:28:20,899 --> 00:28:22,469 popular mainstream song, 677 00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:25,697 and how can I somehow make that strange? 678 00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:26,844 ♪ Just eat it ♪ 679 00:28:26,838 --> 00:28:27,708 ♪ Eat it ♪ 680 00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:28,506 ♪ Eat it ♪ 681 00:28:28,507 --> 00:28:29,637 ♪ Eat it ♪ 682 00:28:29,641 --> 00:28:32,441 ♪ Open up your mouth and feed it ♪ 683 00:28:32,444 --> 00:28:34,114 ♪ Have some more yogurt ♪ 684 00:28:34,112 --> 00:28:35,752 ♪ Have some more Spam ♪ 685 00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:38,777 ♪ It doesnt matter if its fresh or canned ♪ 686 00:28:38,784 --> 00:28:40,094 ♪ Just eat it ♪ 687 00:28:40,085 --> 00:28:40,985 ♪ Eat it ♪ 688 00:28:40,986 --> 00:28:42,046 Man: "Eat It" is Weird Als 689 00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:44,294 most successful parody to date. 690 00:28:44,289 --> 00:28:45,789 As you can see, it is a video 691 00:28:45,791 --> 00:28:48,831 as well as a musical parody of Michael Jacksons work. 692 00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:51,397 Yankovic: I did a parody of every single shot in that video, 693 00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,356 because people were so familiar with it, 694 00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:55,325 and it was like they knew every little detail. 695 00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:57,344 So all I had to do was just tweak everything 696 00:28:57,336 --> 00:28:59,166 just a little bit, and it became funny. 697 00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:01,771 ♪ We been spending most our lives ♪ 698 00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:05,183 ♪ Living in an Amish paradise ♪ 699 00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:07,407 Oswalt: Weird Al Yankovic, when he does a parody 700 00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:10,012 or a satire of a song, its a song that he has to admit 701 00:29:10,015 --> 00:29:11,845 on one level, like, "That is a good song, 702 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:14,220 but I can have some fun with it." 703 00:29:14,219 --> 00:29:16,049 When he did the song "Perform This Way," 704 00:29:16,054 --> 00:29:17,394 he asked Lady Gaga, 705 00:29:17,389 --> 00:29:19,219 and she said, "Well, that song is very important. 706 00:29:19,224 --> 00:29:20,464 Id really you rather not you not." 707 00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:23,999 And her fans said, "You let Weird Al do that!" 708 00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:26,196 Like, they got ‐‐ like, "Oh, sorry, I didnt know. 709 00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:27,798 Never mind, go ahead." 710 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:29,669 ♪ Im sure my critics will say ♪ 711 00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:31,338 ♪ Its a grotesque display ♪ 712 00:29:31,336 --> 00:29:32,996 ♪ Well, they can bite me ♪ 713 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:35,135 ♪ Baby, I perform this way ♪ 714 00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:37,140 ♪ I might be wearin Swiss cheese ♪ 715 00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:39,082 ♪ Or maybe covered with bees ♪ 716 00:29:39,077 --> 00:29:41,177 ♪ It doesnt mean Im crazy ♪ 717 00:29:41,179 --> 00:29:42,809 ♪ I perform this way ♪ 718 00:29:42,814 --> 00:29:46,284 What I like about my job is Im a pop culture Cuisinart. 719 00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,415 I get all this input from everywhere, 720 00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:50,460 and I mix it all up, and I spew it out. 721 00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:52,615 Im providing cultural commentary, 722 00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:53,964 and, hopefully, its amusing to people. 723 00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:55,329 ♪ I perform this way, hey ♪ 724 00:29:55,327 --> 00:29:57,397 ♪ Im really not insane ♪ 725 00:29:57,396 --> 00:30:00,466 ♪ I just perform this way, hey ♪ 726 00:30:07,205 --> 00:30:10,235 ♪ 727 00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:11,639 Thats dandy. 728 00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:13,483 Ho, ho, thats rich, Ill say. 729 00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:16,408 Now, how about some color, stupid?! 730 00:30:16,415 --> 00:30:18,045 Hey! 731 00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:20,390 OBrien: My big influence when I was a kid 732 00:30:20,385 --> 00:30:22,245 was Warner Bros. cartoons. 733 00:30:22,254 --> 00:30:24,764 The timing on those is brilliant. 734 00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:27,256 They were parodying things that I didnt understand, 735 00:30:27,259 --> 00:30:29,059 but it was still really funny. 736 00:30:29,528 --> 00:30:31,828 [ Bell ringing ] 737 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,000 Heil Hitler. 738 00:30:33,999 --> 00:30:35,899 Alterman: One of the things that animation has 739 00:30:35,901 --> 00:30:37,701 that gives it certain advantages 740 00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:38,903 is that on the surface, 741 00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:41,844 it has the appearance of being very safe. 742 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,980 And so animators can be more be more satirical. 743 00:30:44,976 --> 00:30:46,576 It just feels a little bit more benign 744 00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:47,778 because its animated. 745 00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:49,979 Well, Dave, I have a hilarious new movie 746 00:30:49,981 --> 00:30:51,821 coming out on HBO next month. 747 00:30:51,817 --> 00:30:53,077 Its all about 9/11. 748 00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:56,485 The movies called "September 11, 2000‐Fun." 749 00:30:56,488 --> 00:30:57,718 [ Gasping ] 750 00:30:57,723 --> 00:31:00,563 Smith: Anybody thats gonna do parody or satire 751 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:01,959 can say so many things. 752 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,760 You can go so many places. 753 00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:05,732 Just the practicality of not having 754 00:31:05,731 --> 00:31:07,571 to build these things in the real world 755 00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:09,166 and having an actor do them. 756 00:31:09,167 --> 00:31:11,897 You can have Homer roll out the door, roll out the hill, 757 00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:13,403 oh, and roll back into the car 758 00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:14,835 as it then plummets off a cliff. 759 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,210 Aaah! 760 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:20,208 OBrien: "The Simpsons" can cram 650 pop culture references 761 00:31:20,212 --> 00:31:22,312 quietly into an episode, 762 00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:24,124 and you either pick it up or you dont. 763 00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:25,376 But its there. 764 00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:28,724 So theyre just the little parody Easter eggs 765 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,920 all over the place. 766 00:31:29,921 --> 00:31:31,721 [ "The Jetsons" theme plays ] 767 00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:35,063 McKay: "The Simpsons," to pretty much all comedy writers, 768 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:38,460 theyre the cathedral that you walk 800 miles to go see. 769 00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:41,233 I mean, they the are definitive. 770 00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:44,173 OBrien: I always had a little bit of a cartoon sensibility, 771 00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:45,769 and then, lo and behold, all these years later, 772 00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:47,811 I get a job at "The Simpsons." 773 00:31:47,806 --> 00:31:51,106 [ Ominous music plays ] 774 00:31:51,109 --> 00:31:52,839 There was an episode when I worked there 775 00:31:52,844 --> 00:31:54,554 that was a "Cape Fear" parody. 776 00:31:54,546 --> 00:31:56,476 It was all about Sideshow Bob 777 00:31:56,481 --> 00:32:00,121 coming to get his revenge against Bart. 778 00:32:00,118 --> 00:32:04,888 Whats great is that you dont need to have seen "Cape Fear." 779 00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:07,230 The beauty of "The Simpsons" is you dont need 780 00:32:07,225 --> 00:32:09,725 to know the reference in order to still think 781 00:32:09,728 --> 00:32:11,828 that something funny is happening. 782 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:14,400 [ Humming ] 783 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:15,869 Hows it going, guys? 784 00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:17,337 Smith: When "South Park" happened, 785 00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:19,995 the vessel of animation, it could look like shit, 786 00:32:20,005 --> 00:32:21,705 it could look like your kid did it. 787 00:32:21,706 --> 00:32:23,136 The car that gets you there dont matter, 788 00:32:23,141 --> 00:32:24,581 its whats inside the car, 789 00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:26,436 its the content thats traveling. 790 00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:30,345 [ Zany cartoon music plays ] 791 00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:31,378 Ramadan! 792 00:32:31,383 --> 00:32:32,423 Hey, look, an infidel! 793 00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:35,117 Ooh! Oh, pig‐kebab! 794 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,790 McGraw: Dont let the fact that its animated 795 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:38,018 and dont let the fact 796 00:32:38,023 --> 00:32:41,233 that its about a bunch of children fool you. 797 00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:44,061 It is about satire. 798 00:32:44,062 --> 00:32:47,002 This year, were taking the boys on a weekend boat trip 799 00:32:46,998 --> 00:32:50,338 to discuss Jesus role as the navigator of our lives. 800 00:32:50,335 --> 00:32:51,965 A Catholic boat trip? 801 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:55,310 ♪ The Catholic Boat ♪ 802 00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:59,437 ♪ Its gonna be heading on out today ♪ 803 00:32:59,444 --> 00:33:01,414 [ Screaming ] 804 00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:03,723 People who hate religion have, like, really glommed on 805 00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:05,475 to our show, too, cause we make fun of a lot of religion. 806 00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:06,824 Weve made fun of... ‐Everything. 807 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:07,788 ...everything. 808 00:33:07,786 --> 00:33:09,816 I have, in my possession, 809 00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:11,861 an ancient book written on gold plates 810 00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:14,427 that tells of Jesus Christs second coming ‐‐ 811 00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:16,656 here, in America! 812 00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:18,501 In America? Really? 813 00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:20,867 That sounds kind of... 814 00:33:20,866 --> 00:33:23,366 ♪ Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb ♪ 815 00:33:23,368 --> 00:33:25,838 OBrien: Those "South Park" guys clearly just live in a bunker. 816 00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:27,307 Or theyre sociopaths. 817 00:33:27,305 --> 00:33:30,505 They do not care who they offend. 818 00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,079 They burn every bridge, 819 00:33:32,077 --> 00:33:34,477 and they have absolutely no fear. 820 00:33:34,479 --> 00:33:37,579 Man: The category is "People Who Annoy You." 821 00:33:37,582 --> 00:33:39,722 Audience, keep quiet. 822 00:33:39,718 --> 00:33:42,988 I know it, but I dont think I should say it. 823 00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:44,188 Five seconds, Mr. Marsh. 824 00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:47,529 All right, Id like to solve the puzzle. 825 00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:49,686 Niggers! 826 00:33:51,396 --> 00:33:53,056 [ Buzzer ] 827 00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:54,474 Huh? 828 00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,126 Parker: I dont think weve ever come up with something 829 00:33:56,134 --> 00:33:57,744 and the been like, "Oh, thats really going too far," 830 00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,836 you know, because you cant do that. 831 00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:01,638 The groups that come and get angry at us, 832 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,140 once we start saying, "Okay, we better not 833 00:34:03,141 --> 00:34:04,281 make fun of them anymore," 834 00:34:04,276 --> 00:34:05,576 then all of a sudden, none of its okay. 835 00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:07,947 It either has to all be okay or none of its okay. 836 00:34:07,946 --> 00:34:10,106 There was just one thing you didnt count on. 837 00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:12,615 That more people besides me hate "Family Guy." 838 00:34:12,617 --> 00:34:13,947 Yeah. 839 00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:17,262 King: Tonight, "Family Guy" creator Seth MacFarlane. 840 00:34:17,255 --> 00:34:19,715 Hes an equal opportunity offender. 841 00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:22,394 Christians, gays, Sarah Palin, 842 00:34:22,394 --> 00:34:25,404 you name it, nothing, no one off limits. 843 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:26,757 They live in a crummy neighborhood. 844 00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:28,125 ‐The Bradys? ‐Oh, hell yeah! 845 00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:30,703 They got robbers, thugs, drug dealers, oh, you name it. 846 00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,402 ‐You folks want some pancakes? ‐No, thank you. 847 00:34:33,405 --> 00:34:36,005 See, thats the worst we got is Jemimas Witnesses. 848 00:34:36,007 --> 00:34:39,237 What is the line for you? Is there a line? 849 00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:41,954 The JFK Pez dispenser, I wish wed never done. 850 00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:42,807 Really? Yeah. 851 00:34:42,814 --> 00:34:44,324 That was just over the line. 852 00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:45,916 ‐Take him out. ‐No! 853 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:49,317 Check it out. Its a John F. Kennedy Pez dispenser. 854 00:34:49,321 --> 00:34:50,821 Oh. 855 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:54,892 Well, good thing I still have my Bobby Kennedy Pez dispenser. 856 00:34:54,893 --> 00:34:57,763 Seth MacFarlane pushes the envelope 857 00:34:57,762 --> 00:35:00,732 more than Ive ever seen anyone else do. 858 00:35:00,732 --> 00:35:01,832 Oh, screw this. 859 00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:03,603 I just came over to buy some fireworks. 860 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,572 Its a little bit hateful, a little bit hurtful. 861 00:35:06,571 --> 00:35:09,171 But its ‐‐ Oh, my God, its so fucking funny. 862 00:35:09,174 --> 00:35:11,484 Sorry, Wonder Woman, I got three kings. 863 00:35:11,476 --> 00:35:13,036 Now, lets see your pair. 864 00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:14,984 [ Sighs ] 865 00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:16,480 [ Chuckles ] All right. 866 00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:17,951 Hey, Robin, what are you looking at me for? 867 00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:19,079 Look at her. 868 00:35:19,084 --> 00:35:20,754 [ Gunfire ] McKay: Animation allows you 869 00:35:20,752 --> 00:35:21,692 to do whatever you want. 870 00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:23,016 Its probably the freest form 871 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:24,521 for your imagination there is. 872 00:35:24,522 --> 00:35:26,122 Down in front! In that sense, 873 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:27,534 its a comedy writers dream. 874 00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:30,695 If I were 23 again and starting over, 875 00:35:30,695 --> 00:35:33,155 I would beeline towards animation. 876 00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:35,034 You may not be old enough to drive, 877 00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:38,573 but if youre a safe passenger, youve got a job to do. 878 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:40,840 Gary is checking to make sure that the parking brake 879 00:35:40,839 --> 00:35:42,809 is in the proper release position. 880 00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,177 All clear, Gary? 881 00:35:44,175 --> 00:35:46,435 Smith: The ability to tell outlandish stories 882 00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:49,784 and very small jokes at the same time is yours 883 00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:51,621 if youve mastered animation. 884 00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:54,146 Im Han Solo, captain of the Millennium Falcon 885 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:57,692 and the only actor whose career isnt destroyed by this movie. 886 00:36:08,967 --> 00:36:11,997 [ Hard rock music plays ] 887 00:36:13,938 --> 00:36:17,778 Ewokoniad Sigourneth Juniorstein, 888 00:36:17,776 --> 00:36:19,706 Oklahoma State University. 889 00:36:19,711 --> 00:36:23,811 Eqqsquizitine Buble‐Schwingslow, University of Nebraska. 890 00:36:23,815 --> 00:36:25,375 OBrien: I dont know that the Internet 891 00:36:25,383 --> 00:36:30,423 has changed comedy itself that much. 892 00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:31,922 Theres a lot more of it. 893 00:36:31,923 --> 00:36:34,333 But still when you look at the individual pieces, 894 00:36:34,325 --> 00:36:35,285 its still comedy. 895 00:36:35,293 --> 00:36:36,493 Rushing. 896 00:36:36,494 --> 00:36:39,164 Its the way we experience it thats changed. 897 00:36:39,164 --> 00:36:41,234 Oswalt: The reason that parody is so enduring 898 00:36:41,232 --> 00:36:42,932 and is even stronger now is because 899 00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:45,674 we are in this viral Internet culture, 900 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:48,470 where most stuff is now watched online in little bits, 901 00:36:48,473 --> 00:36:50,883 and its presented in an, "Oh, you got to see this. 902 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:53,105 Click on this, youre not gonna believe." 903 00:36:54,846 --> 00:36:56,976 Hey, dont call me bitch! Im a grown man! 904 00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:00,894 God, youre mean. 905 00:37:03,188 --> 00:37:04,288 [ Sobs ] 906 00:37:04,289 --> 00:37:05,859 [ Laughs ] 907 00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:08,087 McKay: The idea was everything. The idea was parody. 908 00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:10,963 Why are there newspapers all over the place? 909 00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:14,302 Political satire, crazy characters, sketches. 910 00:37:14,299 --> 00:37:18,239 It was anything that was fun that you wanted to try 911 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,606 that a network would never put on. 912 00:37:20,605 --> 00:37:23,235 I would like to welcome my first guest, 913 00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,611 Jessica Cheststain. 914 00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:27,110 Jessica Chastain. 915 00:37:27,112 --> 00:37:28,452 Jenkins: With "Between Two Ferns," 916 00:37:28,446 --> 00:37:30,506 you had a program that its a send‐up of talk shows, 917 00:37:30,515 --> 00:37:32,445 so its a satire of talk shows. 918 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:35,790 Real interested in the work youve been doing down in Haiti. 919 00:37:35,787 --> 00:37:38,057 Tell us a little bit about that. 920 00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:39,716 ‐Well ‐‐ ‐Is there a Six Flags 921 00:37:39,724 --> 00:37:42,734 down there? ‐Theres not, no. 922 00:37:42,727 --> 00:37:44,757 Okay, we can move on. 923 00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,433 The new media stuff, especially sites 924 00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:47,771 that are just for comedy, 925 00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:49,896 I think that theyre a good thing for the business. 926 00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:51,771 Especially Funny or Die, which is great because 927 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,040 there is a democratization there. 928 00:37:53,037 --> 00:37:54,407 Hey, dude, you want to play Madden? 929 00:37:54,405 --> 00:37:57,035 The things that succeed on the Internet 930 00:37:57,041 --> 00:37:58,641 is happening organically. 931 00:37:58,643 --> 00:38:01,313 If Im seeing a really hilarious video, 932 00:38:01,312 --> 00:38:03,052 its largely because someone shared it. 933 00:38:03,047 --> 00:38:05,517 ♪ Its the chronic, what, cles of Narnia ♪ 934 00:38:05,517 --> 00:38:07,487 ♪ We love that chronic, what, cles of Narnia ♪ 935 00:38:07,485 --> 00:38:08,415 ♪ Pass that chronic ♪ 936 00:38:08,419 --> 00:38:10,289 Man: It all began with this, 937 00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:13,958 when a comedy rap video pirated from "Saturday Night Live"... 938 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:15,228 ♪ I set up Yahoo Maps ♪ 939 00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:17,186 ...turned up on the web site YouTube, 940 00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:19,395 the suits at NBC took notice. 941 00:38:19,397 --> 00:38:23,597 They didnt like the piracy, but they sure loved the buzz. 942 00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:25,041 It spread like wildfire. 943 00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:27,806 Six million streams. 944 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,906 Miller: Baby‐boomers who grew up with "SNL," 945 00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:32,078 they stopped watching at a certain point. 946 00:38:32,076 --> 00:38:34,676 And if youre gonna be on network television 947 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,879 for 40 years, you adapt or die. 948 00:38:36,881 --> 00:38:38,921 Lonely Island and those digital shorts 949 00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:42,487 gave a whole new port of entry for younger viewers 950 00:38:42,487 --> 00:38:44,487 who maybe hadnt even seen the show. 951 00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:47,329 ♪ He ran for the president of Iran ♪ 952 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,825 ♪ We ran together to a tropical island ♪ 953 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:51,328 Guthrie: Digital shorts are obviously 954 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:52,559 how you made your name. 955 00:38:52,564 --> 00:38:54,704 My favorite is "Blank in a Box." 956 00:38:54,699 --> 00:38:55,799 "Blank in a Box." Yes. 957 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,400 Thats what we can say in the morning. 958 00:38:57,402 --> 00:38:58,742 ♪ One ♪ 959 00:38:58,736 --> 00:39:00,566 ♪ Cut a hole in a box ♪ 960 00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:01,642 ♪ Two ♪ 961 00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,569 ♪ Put your junk in that box ♪ 962 00:39:03,575 --> 00:39:04,605 ♪ Three ♪ 963 00:39:04,609 --> 00:39:06,439 ♪ Make her open the box ♪ 964 00:39:06,444 --> 00:39:08,684 ♪ And thats way you do it ♪ 965 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,550 ♪ Its my dick in a box ♪ 966 00:39:10,548 --> 00:39:13,378 What they do isnt direct parodies, like Im famous for. 967 00:39:13,384 --> 00:39:16,724 But theyll take various memes, if you will, in pop music, 968 00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:19,321 and theyll make it more ridiculous than it is already. 969 00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:20,894 Its a kind of a caricature. 970 00:39:20,892 --> 00:39:23,492 And we have breaking news! Baby Lakeisha has gone missing. 971 00:39:23,494 --> 00:39:25,134 For the next hour, we will ‐‐ whats that? 972 00:39:25,129 --> 00:39:28,229 Nobody cares? Moving on, lets check in with Baby Prudence. 973 00:39:28,233 --> 00:39:32,203 Her 14th day home, and shes still safe and sound. 974 00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:34,843 Key: New media and YouTube and the Internet in regard 975 00:39:34,839 --> 00:39:37,909 to the success of our show is the success of our show. 976 00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:41,049 For example, I was stopped one day on the street by a girl, 977 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,405 and she said to me, 978 00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:43,983 "Ive been with you guys since the beginning, 979 00:39:43,982 --> 00:39:46,752 when you guys were making videos." 980 00:39:46,751 --> 00:39:50,761 She had no idea that we had a television show. 981 00:39:50,755 --> 00:39:53,815 ‐Could be worse. ‐Not that bad. 982 00:39:53,825 --> 00:39:55,425 Brennan: Their show was mostly online. 983 00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:57,286 Their show was mostly YouTube clips. 984 00:39:57,295 --> 00:40:00,395 I watched one of their sketches on YouTube, and then at the end, 985 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,328 Jordan and Keegan come on, and theyre basically like, 986 00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:04,103 "Look, we appreciate you watching. 987 00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:07,512 Would you please watch the broadcast show?" 988 00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:09,305 They were, like, begging. 989 00:40:09,307 --> 00:40:10,667 Thats the way networks make money. 990 00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:13,135 Thats where the profit is, is on the network, 991 00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:14,984 is broadcasting. 992 00:40:14,979 --> 00:40:16,149 Jequallin. 993 00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:17,477 Key: We didnt know this was gonna happen. 994 00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:19,522 If you told me that "Substitute Teacher" 995 00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:21,787 was gonna have 98 million hits online, 996 00:40:21,786 --> 00:40:23,716 Im like, "What?" 997 00:40:23,721 --> 00:40:26,291 Uh, do you mean Jacqueline? 998 00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:28,961 Okay. So thats how its gonna be. 999 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,730 Yall want to play. 1000 00:40:30,728 --> 00:40:32,828 Okay, then. 1001 00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:35,270 Ive got my eye on you, Jequallin. 1002 00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:36,796 Key: Or that in the aggregate, 1003 00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,101 were approaching a billion hits. 1004 00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:42,373 This is Key and Peele, a billion?! 1005 00:40:42,373 --> 00:40:44,013 Like, "What?!" 1006 00:40:44,008 --> 00:40:45,378 [ British accent ] Pack your fucking knifes. 1007 00:40:45,376 --> 00:40:48,006 Get out. Youre off the show. 1008 00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:50,822 Sorry, Chef. 1009 00:40:50,815 --> 00:40:52,715 Because... 1010 00:40:52,717 --> 00:40:53,947 you should be working 1011 00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:57,322 in the finest restaurant in the world. 1012 00:40:57,322 --> 00:40:59,192 ‐Thank you, Chef. ‐Just not any world 1013 00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:01,090 that I live in. 1014 00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:03,492 Mankoff: One of the things that humor and humor and comedy does 1015 00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:05,034 is it gets your attention. 1016 00:41:05,029 --> 00:41:06,699 If it comes in the form of a joke, 1017 00:41:06,698 --> 00:41:08,768 if it comes in the form of satire, 1018 00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:10,726 if it has an entertainment value, 1019 00:41:10,735 --> 00:41:12,695 you know, people will listen to it. 1020 00:41:12,704 --> 00:41:15,444 Working off of something thats in pop culture 1021 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,240 is very satisfying because it gives everyone a sense 1022 00:41:18,242 --> 00:41:19,742 that were all in on it. 1023 00:41:19,744 --> 00:41:23,114 And in a fractured age where people feel very alone, 1024 00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:25,854 I think a lot of mankinds desire 1025 00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:27,920 is to feel like were together. 1026 00:41:27,919 --> 00:41:29,949 I know yall do these parodies on your show. 1027 00:41:29,954 --> 00:41:31,324 Oh, thank you. 1028 00:41:31,322 --> 00:41:32,762 Well, "thank you," no. 1029 00:41:32,757 --> 00:41:35,257 Dont do one of "Empire." 1030 00:41:35,259 --> 00:41:39,129 I wouldnt do that. 1031 00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:41,370 Okay. Okay. 1032 00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:42,466 Well, Im gonna [bleep] things up 1033 00:41:42,467 --> 00:41:44,337 if youre [bleep] with me, man. 1034 00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:46,735 What if ‐‐ we may be there already. 1035 00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:50,268 But what if, as a nation ‐‐ or as a world, 1036 00:41:50,274 --> 00:41:54,484 too many of us are spending too much time 1037 00:41:54,479 --> 00:41:57,849 parodying and satirizing culture? 1038 00:41:57,849 --> 00:42:00,419 No ones gonna be growing crops. 1039 00:42:00,418 --> 00:42:02,488 No ones going to be trucking them into cities. 1040 00:42:02,487 --> 00:42:04,317 No ones going to be canning goods. 1041 00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:05,862 Were all just gonna be, 1042 00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:08,287 "Look what I just made. I just made this funny thing." 1043 00:42:08,292 --> 00:42:11,332 And future aliens will come to this earth 1044 00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:13,529 and find our skeletons holding our devices. 1045 00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:14,701 [ Laughs ] 1046 00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:17,199 Theyll realize that the Romans collapsed 1047 00:42:17,201 --> 00:42:18,801 because there was lead in the water. 1048 00:42:18,803 --> 00:42:22,713 We might be killed by too much parody and satire. 79770

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