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Is there a difference
between parody and satire?
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I mean, obviously
parody is ‐‐ man!
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I dont know.
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Well...
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You know, Jerry, my brother,
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and Jim Abrahams always
have an answer for that.
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I I think of...
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I dont know.
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Go look it up in the dictionary.
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Im sure they have wonderful,
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better descriptions
of what the word is.
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Man: Parody is essentially
a take‐off.
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Parody is like what
"Weird" Al Yankovic goes.
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I think were done here.
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[ Laughter ]
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Oh, hold on one second.
Satire is hard.
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Man: Satire is a more serious
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an intensive form
of comic derision.
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Satire is humor
with a moral purpose.
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Making fun of things
so that they might get better.
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You are trying
to make a social point.
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To me, good satire is...
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The greatest weapon
against assholes.
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And, you know, the world
is full of assholes.
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This is Captain James T. Kirk
of the Starship Enterprise.
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Identify yourself.
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Smith: "SNL" does parody
all the time.
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Name a cartoon,
they trade in it.
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"Lord of the Rings."
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Smith:
Name a late‐night talk show,
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they trade in it.
Why?
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Because its common reference.
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Like, we all know
the thing theyre parodying.
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Parody is very much taking
something that we recognize,
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a song that everybody knows,
a movie that everybody knows.
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Its a very grand tradition
of taking known forms
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and skewing them just enough
to make a comment about them.
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OBrien: In "Your Show of Shows"
in the 1950s,
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they were parodying things
that people knew,
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like the famous kissing scene
in "From Here to Eternity."
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Everybody in America
had seen that movie.
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It was something that
everybody could relate to.
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And then everyone feels like,
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"Yes, were all
in this together."
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[ Laughter ]
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Burnett: When we did a takeoff
on "Gone With the Wind,"
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the younger audience didnt know
the original movie.
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For those who did
know the movie,
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it was a double whammy.
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That gown is gorgeous!
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Thank you,
I saw it in the window,
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and I just
couldnt resist it.
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Parody tends to
make me laugh harder,
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but satire tends to make me
go, "Ooh, thats good."
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Thats 11 votes
for Amy Schumer
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not hot enough
for television.
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Is anybody voting
the other way?
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Reiner: Amy Schumer did a piece
about "12 Angry Men."
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Thats a great
gem piece of satire.
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You look at people
who just get it.
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They get what it is,
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and they dont try
to make it too big,
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they dont try to go
too broad with it.
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They just stay a little
close to the bone
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and just twist it a little bit.
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Its an undisputed fact
that a womans value
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is mostly determined
by her looks.
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As it should be.
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The verdict is in.
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The jury agreed
that they would bang you.
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Yes!
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Youre hot enough
for basic cable television.
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Thank you, Your Honor!
Thank you so much!
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You earn the right to be
transgressive by being funny ‐‐
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really funny,
and then making sure
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that youre not
making fun of the victims.
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Satire is comedy
aimed at the powerful.
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Man #1: Is that
who I think it is?
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Man #2: Uh, yes, thats
Adolf Hitler in a home movie.
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Man #1: Looks a little like
Mel Brooks.
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In terms of parody and satire,
there really is Mel Brooks,
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and theres everybody else.
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When I was a kid,
VHS tapes were invented,
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so we had "The Godfather,"
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and then we had
every Mel Brooks movie,
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and he was just the funniest.
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Id like to go back
to your television days,
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cause, I mean, you were
in television for something
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like 20 years,
writing for Sid Caesar.
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It was very good for me
to be part of the writing staff
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of "The Show of Shows,"
"The Sid Caesar Show."
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You talk about as though
it was a training ground
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for your film work.
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I mean, is that how you see it?
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Comedy university,
it really was.
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Nesteroff: Mel Brooks was one of
the highest paid comedy writers
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in the history of show business
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when he worked
for "Your Show of Shows."
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So by the time
of "The Producers,"
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he was one of the most
critically acclaimed
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people in comedy.
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Joseph? You are smoking
in the presence of the Fuhrer.
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Im sorry, big daddy.
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"The Producers" was not the
first attempt to parody Hitler.
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Ernst Lubitsch had done it.
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Heil myself.
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The Three Stooges did it
in a couple of film shorts.
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But it really was the embodiment
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of a lot of what
Mel Brooks was about.
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He does have this
Hitler obsession.
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Brooks: Theres only
one way to get even.
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You have to bring him
down with ridicule,
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and its been one
of my life‐long jobs
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has been to make the world
laugh at Adolf Hitler.
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♪ Hes absolutely going ♪
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Man: You never had any
aspirations to be serious.
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Bullshit.
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All my films are serious.
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You examine any one of them,
theyre serious,
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because they are passionate,
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and they depict human behavior
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at given points
in the history of humanity.
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Oswalt: Mel Brooks grew up
loving westerns.
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And as he got older, still
loved them from his childhood,
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but you look back
on some of them and go,
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"Wow, thats really racist.
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Some of this stuff
is really messed up."
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And thats where
"Blazing Saddles" comes from.
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Apatow: "Blazing Saddles"
was very satirical,
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but it did it by...
‐[ Belches ]
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...making you
shit your pants laughing.
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[ Flatulates ]
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What he manages to do
with the high and the low,
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I think, is astonishing.
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You can have one scene
where a horse
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is knocked out with a punch,
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and then deal
with race relations
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about an African‐American
sheriff.
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Thats pretty heady stuff.
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As chairman of
the welcoming committee,
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it is my privilege
to extent a laurel
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and hearty handshake
to our new...
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...nigger.
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Apatow:
Mel Brooks tells a story
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about saying to the head
of the studio, "Can I do this?"
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And the head of the studio
is saying,
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"Well, if youre gonna
walk up to the bell,
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you got to ring it."
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And Mel Brooks rings it.
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You cant make
a successful comedy
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that doesnt say something
about the system,
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about the social structure,
about prejudice,
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about people,
about behavior.
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"Blazing Saddles"
is all about racial prejudice.
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Its all about
the hypocritical west
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shitting all over
a black sheriff
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and wanting him dead.
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[ Gasping ]
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And now for my next
impression, Jesse Owens!
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Seize them!
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Satire is something that
touches the heart of everyone.
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We can go, "This is a problem
that our society has."
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Nesteroff: "Blazing Saddles" is
comedys indictment of racism.
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They darker than us.
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And showing its absurdity
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in this great parody
of an American genre.
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[ Electricity crackles ]
Life!
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Life, do you hear me?!
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There was a certain grammar
to those old movies,
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and Mel Brooks stuck
to the form of them.
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He just twisted it
a little bit here and there,
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and its brilliant.
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You see his love of cinema
in all of his parodies.
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"High Anxiety" is a satire
of all the Hitchcock films.
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And "Silent Movie," obviously,
a satire of silent movies.
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And "Spaceballs,"
a satire of George Lucas.
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May the Schwartz
be with you!
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What I love about him
is lots of times, people say,
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"Oh, that is very funny,
but we cant say that."
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Mel would go,
"Thats very funny,
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were gonna say that."
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Oh!
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It good to be the king.
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The magazine Mad magazine,
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the edition number one,
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the date, 1952.
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In the 40s, there were things
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that you should never
joke about ‐‐
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religion, politics.
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Things were still sacred.
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Mad magazine
helped change that.
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It was very, very influential.
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It was embraced by
the comedy community,
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and it was sort of
like a precursor
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to underground comics
in the late 60s.
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Yankovic:
Id never been exposed
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to that kind of
irreverent humor before.
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It was sort of like shaking
your fist at authority
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in a very clever and funny way.
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In case youre not
familiar with Mad,
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its a magazine
of broad satire aimed
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at practically everything
Americans hold dear ‐‐
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sex, success,
beauty, patriotism,
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anti‐patriotism, pro‐war groups,
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anti‐war groups.
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You name it,
in one issue or another,
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Mad has aimed
its blunt instrument at it.
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Smith: I remember when I was
a kid, begging my father
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to buy the issue
of "King Kong" Mad magazine
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because "Network"
was also parodied.
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And I remember
telling my dad,
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like, "Dad, theyre doing
Network.
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Its called Nutwork,
and you liked Network,"
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trying to sell him on it.
Like, youll enjoy this, too ‐‐
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as if hed ever read
Mad magazine.
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Mad magazine was aggressive
to a certain extent,
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but they always
pulled their punches.
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It was nothing that would
get you thrown out of school.
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Now, National Lampoon
put nothing in there
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that wouldnt get you
kicked out of school.
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You know, here was a magazine
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to hide from your parents,
you know?
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And your wife.
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It had, like,
some nasty pictures in it.
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These are not magazines
you can open in this office now.
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Thats all I can say.
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[ Laughs ]
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They are so
politically incorrect.
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ORourke: To see people
using humor as a weapon
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the way that the kids that
started National Lampoon did
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was just, I thought,
"This is great."
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Its often the only magazine
that a lot of younger hip people
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today read.
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And why that is is, I think
they trust us.
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Beatts: Another clue to
the success of the magazine
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was that unlike Mad magazine,
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all the artwork was done
very intentionally
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to replicate whatever
was being parodied.
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And that was a big difference
from what had been
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in the counterculture
prior to that.
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The 1970s were
a fertile time for humor,
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and you people were bitter,
caustic, smutty,
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dirty, funny, and...
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Drunk.
...drunk,
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and largely outrageous.
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The hopes of the 60s
had given way
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to the frustrations
of the 70s.
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The Vietnam War
was obviously lost.
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The civil rights movement
had won,
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and the argument was over,
but, of course, it wasnt.
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The craziness of that period
is one of the things
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that made National Lampoon
a success.
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People needed to laugh.
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Woman: You did
a very interesting parody
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of "The Joy of Sex,"
"The Job of Sex."
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Kelly: We called the book
"The Job of Sex,"
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and divided it up
into punching in,
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down time, overtime,
on the job injuries,
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and workmans
compensation.
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Beatts:
At the National Lampoon,
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there was certainly an enjoyment
of being edgy and shocking.
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Youre listening to
the National Lampoon Radio Hour.
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Yankovic:
The National Lampoon Radio Hour
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was a syndicated radio show
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written and produced
by the National Lampoon,
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which was magazine
an audio form.
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And thats where
I was first exposed
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to people that went on
to much bigger fame,
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people like Bill Murray.
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A lot of
the "Saturday Night Live" people
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started out as
National Lampoon people.
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Lets do 20 face slaps.
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Gilda and John did the show
in this sort of weird space.
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It was under
the Time‐Life Building.
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Announcer: They are
the cast of the new
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National Lampoon show,
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which opens this Friday
at the new Palladium Cabaret.
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And then Lorne Michaels,
he came in and poached
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all these people.
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[ Laughs ]
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‐Gilda Radner.
‐Gilda.
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John Belushi.
And, uh...
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Laraine Newman.
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Lorne Michaels pitched
"SNL" to me as a cross
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between "Monty Python"
and "60 Minutes."
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He said, "Its gonna work."
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Man: For outstanding comedy,
variety, or music series,
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NBCs "Saturday Night."
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Id also like to thank
the city of New York
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for the correct
combination of, um...
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rejection and alienation,
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which keeps
the comedy spirit alive.
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[ Laughter ]
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[ Gasps ]
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OBrien: When something
really revolutionary happens,
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when you first see it,
it should look wrong.
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And "Saturday Night Live,"
when you first saw it,
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what is this?
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Miller: Rule number one is
if youre gonna do parody,
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you better have somebody
who can deliver it ‐‐
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both in the writers room
and on stage.
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Hey, Norton?!
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Hey, Robby Bee.
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Newman: What made
"Saturday Night Live" different
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was this phenomenon that
happened in the 60s,
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which was the youth culture
and the youth market.
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Our show was the first one
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to really have a voice
for a younger generation.
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Land Shark! Still the cleverest
species of them all.
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Franken: It was the first time
that our generation
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was allowed to do TV,
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and be on TV and write TV.
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And so we were parodying things
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that "The Carol Burnett Show"
didnt parody.
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Your mama eats
kitty litter.
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Dont nobody
talk about my mama!
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I got put in charge of producing
the commercial parodies
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because I had worked
in advertising.
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You have to establish
the product,
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say why people need it,
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and also allow for the comedy.
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[ Laughs ]
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I have a certain fondness
for Royal Deluxe II
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where the rabbi circumcises
a baby
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in the back seat of a car
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to show how smooth
the ride of the car is.
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Commercial parodies became
a kind of trademark
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of "Saturday Night Live."
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Woman: Hey, You...
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Just one whiff does the trick.
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Some of their parodies were
really speaking to the times.
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Hey, you.
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In the sexual awakening
of the 60s and 70s,
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there was a connection
to reality.
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Woman: Hey, You,
for that special someone
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you never expect to see again.
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Michaels: When you have
18 minutes of commercials
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in your time period,
then to not comment
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on commercials
would be ridiculous.
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Who am I?
Why am I here?
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When Im done
rolling up this booger,
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should I eat it
or throw it out the window?
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The commercial parodies endure
because they reflected
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not only the culture
at the time...
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Super Colon Blow?
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...but also the way
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that Madison Avenue
tried to sell things.
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Where are all out of
Cracklin Oat Flakes.
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How about new
Cracklin Oat Flakes,
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now with ecstasy?
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McKay: We get to talk back
to these corporate monoliths.
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Everywhere we go,
theres billboards.
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Every time we turn on the TV,
theres commercials.
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And its the one time "SNL"
has really figured it out
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where you can strike back.
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I cant hear you,
dude!
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What?
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Piece of crap!
359
00:15:22,388 --> 00:15:24,888
Hey, I think that phone
you bought me is busted.
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Announcer: Samuel L. Bronkowitz
presents "Cleopatra Schwartz."
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Never again will one man
and one woman
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defy such incredible odds.
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[ Gunfire ]
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Together, no one
could stop them.
365
00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:49,149
I dont think parody
and satire is important.
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But its important to me
367
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because, you know,
Ive done it a lot.
368
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"Kentucky Fried Movie" started
with Kentucky Fried Theater.
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We did these sketches
in 1971 in Madison, Wisconsin,
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and 1972,
moved the show to L. A.
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Man: Quiet, please!
Hold still.
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We wanted to make
that show into a movie.
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‐Poisonous fish.
‐Poisonous fish.
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"Kentucky Fried Movie"
was just doing individual bits
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without a story.
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Im not wearing any pants.
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Film at 11:00.
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Jerry Zucker:
What we were trying to do
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with "Kentucky Friend Movie"
was get into the movie business.
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Theres a certain Z‐A‐Z sense
of humor, whatever that is.
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For me, the most fun was
making David and Jim laugh.
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We each trusted the other two
as arbiters of whether our ideas
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were funny or not.
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Something about the three of us,
we had a common vision.
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Sound your alarm bell now!
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[ Alarm blares ]
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All right now, everybody,
get in crash positions!
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00:16:52,578 --> 00:16:57,148
McKay:
"Airplane" had that anarchic
anything‐can‐happen quality.
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That, to me, is a seminal movie.
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That, to me, is a movie
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that changed
my perspective on comedy.
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Okay, boys, lets get
some pictures.
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OBrien: These brilliant
people had collected
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100,000 of the funniest jokes
and crammed them into a movie,
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and they were
so relentlessly funny.
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What the hells
going on up there?
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Every moment of it, it
transports you to the land
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of magic mushrooms.
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If youre wondering
what magic mushrooms feels like,
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it feels like you are
"Airplane."
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Letterman: Was the idea
for this motion picture
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a well‐planned vehicle
or more accidental in nature?
403
00:17:36,856 --> 00:17:39,956
We all watched a movie
on late‐night television
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called "Zero Hour,"
and that actually was lucky,
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00:17:42,228 --> 00:17:44,058
because it was essentially,
406
00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:45,803
well, at least
a very similar plot
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to what "Airplane" is.
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David Zucker: We have never
found a movie since
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that was as perfect
for satire or parody.
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It worked great, but not a joke
in the whole thing.
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But we thought it was hilarious.
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Youd better
tell the captain.
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00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:00,581
Weve got to land
as soon as we can.
414
00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:02,180
This woman has to be
gotten to a hospital.
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00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:03,481
What do you think it is?
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00:18:03,482 --> 00:18:04,822
Well, I cant be sure yet.
417
00:18:04,817 --> 00:18:06,647
But I know its serious enough
to land at the nearest city
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with hospital facilities.
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00:18:08,187 --> 00:18:09,887
Better tell the captain
I want to speak to him.
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00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:12,989
‐Certainly.
‐Its really film noir acting.
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Please help me.
422
00:18:14,493 --> 00:18:17,303
Jerry Zucker: Not only
does it fit the style of acting
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that we love, but also because
we had the film to look at,
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there were a lot of shots
that we just took.
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We said, "Hey, this is great."
426
00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:26,244
We wanted to go shot for shot,
427
00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:28,538
so it really would look
like an old movie.
428
00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:31,781
In fact, scene for scene,
we just copied it.
429
00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:33,347
Because of my mistake,
430
00:18:33,346 --> 00:18:35,406
six men didnt return
from that raid.
431
00:18:35,414 --> 00:18:39,284
Because of my mistake, six men
didnt return from that raid.
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00:18:39,285 --> 00:18:40,845
‐We have visitors.
‐Hello.
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00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:42,993
‐Hi.
‐We have a visitor.
434
00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:45,219
‐Hello.
‐Hi.
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00:18:45,224 --> 00:18:48,094
Basically, what we do is just
set up familiar situations
436
00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:51,734
and then we reverse
the audiences expectation
437
00:18:51,731 --> 00:18:52,701
of the outcome.
438
00:18:52,698 --> 00:18:53,798
Would you like
to have it?
439
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,099
Thank you.
Thanks a lot.
440
00:18:56,102 --> 00:18:58,102
Sure. You ever been
in a cockpit before?
441
00:18:58,104 --> 00:19:01,514
No, sir, Ive never been
up in a plane before.
442
00:19:01,507 --> 00:19:05,677
You ever seen
a grown man naked?
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00:19:05,678 --> 00:19:08,478
Jerry Zucker: The acting style
and the committing
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to the absolutely serious
dramatic portrayal of the roles
445
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is the essence of the film
446
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and why we insisted
on directing it.
447
00:19:16,255 --> 00:19:17,485
You better
tell the captain
448
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,160
weve got to land
as soon as we can.
449
00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:20,888
This woman has to be
gotten to a hospital.
450
00:19:20,893 --> 00:19:22,593
A hospital?
What is it?
451
00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:23,955
Its a big building
with patients,
452
00:19:23,963 --> 00:19:25,303
but thats not
important right now.
453
00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:27,367
Tell the captain
I must speak to him.
454
00:19:27,366 --> 00:19:28,396
Certainly.
455
00:19:28,401 --> 00:19:30,471
Leslie was such
a character actor,
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unknown at the time.
457
00:19:31,971 --> 00:19:33,571
Jerry Zucker: Im amazed
that he could have done
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all those serious movies
all those years,
459
00:19:35,441 --> 00:19:37,811
cause he really is
a closet comedian.
460
00:19:37,810 --> 00:19:42,480
And, well, out of the closet
after we got through with him.
461
00:19:42,481 --> 00:19:44,921
When I see five weirdos
dressed in togas
462
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stabbing a guy
in the middle of the park
463
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in full view of 100 people,
I shoot the bastards.
464
00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:50,088
Thats my policy.
465
00:19:50,089 --> 00:19:52,689
That was a Shakespeare
in the Park production
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00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:56,032
of "Julius Caesar,"
you moron.
467
00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:58,258
David Zucker: Even the most
crazy, zany comedy
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00:19:58,264 --> 00:20:00,434
still needs a good story.
469
00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:02,533
By the time we got
to "The Naked Gun,"
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00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:06,105
we knew how to do the plot
and the character.
471
00:20:06,105 --> 00:20:09,405
Everywhere I look,
something reminds me of her.
472
00:20:09,408 --> 00:20:11,508
We love doing visual puns.
473
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:13,680
You just have to stay
ahead of the audience.
474
00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,579
A lot of people
see the joke developing.
475
00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:20,252
Its always a contest
to beat them to the punch.
476
00:20:21,487 --> 00:20:22,617
Bingo.
477
00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:25,091
The audience cant
be expecting it,
478
00:20:25,091 --> 00:20:27,691
otherwise, I mean,
it wont be funny.
479
00:20:30,162 --> 00:20:33,702
‐Nice beaver.
‐Thank you.
480
00:20:33,699 --> 00:20:36,399
I just had it stuffed.
‐Let me help you with that.
481
00:20:36,402 --> 00:20:38,172
Jerry Zucker: There are
certain kinds of jokes
482
00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:42,040
that the sexual content is in
the eye of the beholder.
483
00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:44,781
Were just talking about
this stuffed beaver up there.
484
00:20:44,777 --> 00:20:47,177
We dont mean
anything sexual, you know.
485
00:20:47,179 --> 00:20:49,309
And so thats ‐‐
thats your fault
486
00:20:49,315 --> 00:20:51,345
if you think that.
487
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,420
Yankovic: The Zucker brothers
proved this time and again.
488
00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:55,119
Its somehow not as funny
489
00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:58,121
to have some kind
of goofy guy being goofy,
490
00:20:58,124 --> 00:21:00,694
but it works when
you have serious people
491
00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:03,263
doing outrageous things.
492
00:21:05,331 --> 00:21:08,601
Jerry Zucker: If we had anything
to do with all the great satires
493
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,371
that came after us,
494
00:21:10,369 --> 00:21:12,799
Im thrilled,
if we encouraged people.
495
00:21:12,805 --> 00:21:14,865
That smells like
pure gasoline.
496
00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:16,514
Theyve done studies,
you know.
497
00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:20,849
60% of the time,
it works every time.
498
00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:23,246
That doesnt make sense.
499
00:21:23,249 --> 00:21:26,319
Maybe people said, "Oh, gee,
I could do that, you know.
500
00:21:26,318 --> 00:21:28,018
That doesnt look
that difficult."
501
00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,820
Oh, behave.
502
00:21:29,822 --> 00:21:31,722
[ Laughs ] Yeah.
503
00:21:31,724 --> 00:21:33,164
Yeah, baby!
504
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:35,459
Yeah.
505
00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:44,795
Ladies and gentlemen,
Id like to reaffirm
506
00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:47,574
that the art of ventriloquism
is not dead.
507
00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:50,883
Would you welcome the very funny
Mr. Albert Brooks.
508
00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:52,406
[ Applause ]
509
00:21:52,411 --> 00:21:55,651
I was around a lot
of comedians in my group.
510
00:21:55,648 --> 00:21:58,218
I mean, with Billy Crystal
and Robin Williams.
511
00:21:58,217 --> 00:21:59,987
Whenever Albert was
in the group,
512
00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:02,715
everybody recognized that
there was nobody like that.
513
00:22:02,721 --> 00:22:04,191
It was like a challenge dance.
514
00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:06,960
You just stepped back
and let him go.
515
00:22:06,959 --> 00:22:08,389
Well, good evening, everybody.
516
00:22:08,394 --> 00:22:10,404
Yes, hello, everybody!
517
00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:15,265
Im Dave.
And Im Danny.
518
00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:17,137
Nesteroff: When you see
early Albert Brooks footage,
519
00:22:17,136 --> 00:22:19,966
hes often parodying
old‐school show business.
520
00:22:19,972 --> 00:22:20,842
Thats what he knew.
521
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,240
His father was a comedian,
522
00:22:22,241 --> 00:22:24,381
his brother is a comedian.
523
00:22:24,376 --> 00:22:26,576
Albert was very meta,
and all of his stuff
524
00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:28,949
was about the conventions
of the trade.
525
00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:32,378
Danny and Dave was about
the lameness of ventriloquism.
526
00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:33,594
You know, Danny,
Im a little nervous
527
00:22:33,586 --> 00:22:35,546
being here on television
and everything.
528
00:22:35,554 --> 00:22:36,824
Well, why dont you
have a cigarette?
529
00:22:36,822 --> 00:22:39,592
That always calms you down.
530
00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:42,692
Great.
531
00:22:42,695 --> 00:22:44,425
Shearer: There was content,
there was funniness,
532
00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:46,160
but the target of the comedy
533
00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:48,695
was the standard forms
of show business.
534
00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:50,041
Hello.
535
00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:51,695
Im Albert Brooks.
536
00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,974
And Im speaking
to you on behalf
537
00:22:53,973 --> 00:22:56,383
of the famous
School for Comedians.
538
00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,435
One of the first things
I ever saw him do
539
00:22:58,444 --> 00:23:00,184
was the School for Comedians.
540
00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:02,209
Lets see how
these kids are doing.
541
00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:05,784
He was walking past
the spit‐take class.
542
00:23:05,784 --> 00:23:10,264
Ive just walked into the room.
Now start to drink.
543
00:23:10,256 --> 00:23:12,756
Good.
Now I speak.
544
00:23:12,758 --> 00:23:14,728
Guess what!
I just heard from the bank,
545
00:23:14,727 --> 00:23:16,257
and not only dont
you have any money,
546
00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:18,702
but your sister is dead!
547
00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:21,395
That was funny.
548
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,870
Newman:
What was special about him
549
00:23:22,868 --> 00:23:25,498
was his singular vision,
his style.
550
00:23:25,504 --> 00:23:28,344
This was alternative comedy,
for sure.
551
00:23:29,108 --> 00:23:31,208
During the next hour,
you will see the first
552
00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:35,310
in a series of programs entitled
"An American Family."
553
00:23:35,314 --> 00:23:37,224
Shearer: Albert had been
watching "An American Family,"
554
00:23:37,216 --> 00:23:38,816
which was the first
reality show.
555
00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:39,887
It was on PBS.
556
00:23:39,885 --> 00:23:42,545
They spent a year filming
a real family,
557
00:23:42,554 --> 00:23:43,694
the "Loud" family.
558
00:23:43,689 --> 00:23:46,059
You got all the boys,
I got all the girls.
559
00:23:46,058 --> 00:23:47,828
You cant beat it.
560
00:23:47,826 --> 00:23:49,896
Both of us shared the sense
561
00:23:49,895 --> 00:23:52,055
that there was a lie
at the heart of this,
562
00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:54,834
which is that the camera
can be there
563
00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:56,373
without changing things.
564
00:23:56,368 --> 00:23:58,838
When we did "Real Life,"
the movie together,
565
00:23:58,837 --> 00:24:02,167
the underlying motion
was to poke fun at that idea.
566
00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:04,044
Welcome home!
Aloha!
567
00:24:04,043 --> 00:24:05,443
Look at this now!
Ah.
568
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:08,314
Grodin: And Albert Brooks
plays himself, a filmmaker,
569
00:24:08,314 --> 00:24:10,924
and I play the head
of this American family
570
00:24:10,916 --> 00:24:14,016
that has been chosen
to be filmed for a year.
571
00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:18,655
Honey, do you think
its safe for you to be eating
572
00:24:18,657 --> 00:24:22,557
with your heating pad
in your lap?
573
00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:26,131
I have terrible cramps,
I am bleeding profusely,
574
00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:28,271
and I want to vomit
on the table.
575
00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:29,937
[ Chuckles ]
576
00:24:29,935 --> 00:24:31,735
What are you doing?
577
00:24:31,737 --> 00:24:33,137
No, I just want
to let them know
578
00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:35,668
that this is not the way
we usually talk,
579
00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:38,244
especially
at the dinner table.
580
00:24:38,243 --> 00:24:40,853
Sacks:
"Real Life" is about reality TV.
581
00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:43,746
And this was years
before it had even existed.
582
00:24:43,749 --> 00:24:46,319
So Albert Brooks is dealing
on a whole different level.
583
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:48,518
Whereas with "Spinal Tap,"
youre making fun
584
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,960
of a group of idiots
who are likable,
585
00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:52,786
but not the smartest
people in the world.
586
00:24:52,791 --> 00:24:54,261
Hi, Im Rob Reiner.
587
00:24:54,259 --> 00:24:55,829
Ive just directed
my first feature film
588
00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:56,858
for Embassy Pictures.
589
00:24:56,862 --> 00:24:58,232
Its called "Spinal Tap."
590
00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:00,500
Its a comedy about
a British rock and roll band.
591
00:25:00,499 --> 00:25:02,799
Weide: "Spinal Tap"
was a mockumentary.
592
00:25:02,801 --> 00:25:03,901
It was a mock‐documentary.
593
00:25:03,902 --> 00:25:05,642
Dialogue wasnt written,
it was improvised,
594
00:25:05,637 --> 00:25:07,867
but it was shot
like a documentary.
595
00:25:07,873 --> 00:25:09,473
Reiner: During
the "Flower People" period,
596
00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:10,735
who was your drummer?
597
00:25:10,743 --> 00:25:15,013
It was tragic, really.
He exploded on stage.
598
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:16,724
Just like that.
‐He just went up.
599
00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:20,885
He just was like
a flash of green light...
600
00:25:20,886 --> 00:25:23,516
and that was it.
Nothing was left.
601
00:25:23,522 --> 00:25:27,362
You know, dozens of people
spontaneously combust each year.
602
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,329
Its just not really
widely reported.
603
00:25:30,329 --> 00:25:33,229
[ Spinal Taps "Big Bottom"
plays ]
604
00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:34,972
Shearer: Movies kept getting
rock and roll wrong.
605
00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:38,937
And so the real drive
of the project was,
606
00:25:38,937 --> 00:25:40,667
"Its not that hard,
lets get it right."
607
00:25:40,672 --> 00:25:45,082
♪ My baby fits me
like a flesh tuxedo ♪
608
00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:49,507
♪ Id like to sink her
with my pink torpedo ♪
609
00:25:49,515 --> 00:25:51,015
♪ Big bottom ♪
610
00:25:51,016 --> 00:25:53,546
Helps to really like
something enough to pay
611
00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:54,622
close attention to it
612
00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,290
so that when time
comes to parodize it,
613
00:25:56,288 --> 00:25:57,818
it comes naturally.
614
00:25:57,823 --> 00:25:59,223
Shearer:
Its not parodize lost.
615
00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:00,764
‐Ooh.
‐Oh, thats not bad.
616
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:03,529
Is that in the film?
‐No, it will be in the sequel.
617
00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:06,729
How much more black could this
be, and the answer is...
618
00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:08,972
...none, none more black.
619
00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:11,867
‐Rock and roll!
‐We made this movie,
620
00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:14,640
and the guy who was shooting it,
I hired him because he had shot
621
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,910
all these rock and roll
documentaries.
622
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:17,678
And I thought hell be perfect.
623
00:26:17,676 --> 00:26:20,346
Hello, Cleveland!
Hello, Cleveland!
624
00:26:20,345 --> 00:26:21,905
And hes watching this,
and he says,
625
00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:24,024
"Whats funny about this?
626
00:26:24,016 --> 00:26:25,516
This isnt funny.
627
00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:27,847
This is exactly what goes on."
628
00:26:27,853 --> 00:26:29,353
But, to me, that was
a great compliment
629
00:26:29,354 --> 00:26:32,464
because it was saying
were capturing real life
630
00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:36,028
what people actually experience
in that rock and roll world,
631
00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:37,728
and that, to me,
is the best comedy,
632
00:26:37,729 --> 00:26:41,299
the comedy that connects
with real experience.
633
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,040
Weide: People said,
"Oh, this is so new."
634
00:26:44,036 --> 00:26:45,736
And then you say,
"Well, no, actually,
635
00:26:45,737 --> 00:26:47,037
you could take that back
636
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,169
to Woody Allens
Take the Money and Run."
637
00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:51,114
Nesteroff:
Woody Allens "Zelig,"
638
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:53,240
"The Rutles" with Eric Idle
639
00:26:53,245 --> 00:26:55,405
was a mockumentary
that was a precursor.
640
00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:57,684
But "Spinal Tap" was the one
641
00:26:57,683 --> 00:27:00,653
that really became
a huge critical success.
642
00:27:00,652 --> 00:27:03,662
Now, mockumentary is a style
643
00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:06,355
that has infiltrated
not just cinema, but television.
644
00:27:06,358 --> 00:27:08,558
That herky‐jerky camera motion
645
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,030
we see on "Modern Family"
or "The Office."
646
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:13,629
Christopher Guests
whole trajectory
647
00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,132
has been mockumentary.
648
00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:17,344
Hey, judge, look at me.
649
00:27:17,336 --> 00:27:19,296
His stuff is very specific.
650
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:20,674
‐Its in the crate!
‐Where is it?
651
00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:21,972
Its in the crate!
652
00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:25,544
The fact that it was improvised,
that became a style
653
00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:26,854
of storytelling.
654
00:27:26,845 --> 00:27:30,675
♪ Midnight at the Oasis ♪
655
00:27:30,682 --> 00:27:32,582
Nesteroff: And any time
that you introduce something
656
00:27:32,584 --> 00:27:36,454
that is effective and nothing
like everything else...
657
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:37,885
Really good.
658
00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:40,290
...thats where you get
something thats revolutionary.
659
00:27:40,292 --> 00:27:42,192
♪ Like a surgeon ♪
660
00:27:42,194 --> 00:27:43,634
[ Chainsaw motor revs ]
661
00:27:43,629 --> 00:27:46,999
♪ Cutting for
the very first time ♪
662
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:50,069
Ive just always thought that
rock and roll should be fun,
663
00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:52,198
which is why its healthy
for me to sometimes
664
00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:54,574
prick the bubble
of pretentiousness
665
00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:56,473
that sometimes
pervades the industry.
666
00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:59,205
♪ Baby, I love rocky road ♪
667
00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:01,911
♪ So wont you go
and buy half a gallon, baby ♪
668
00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:03,984
♪ I love rocky road ♪
669
00:28:03,982 --> 00:28:08,152
♪ So have another
triple scoop with me ♪
670
00:28:08,153 --> 00:28:10,193
I give myself
several guidelines
671
00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:12,819
and parameters when Im writing
my parody songs.
672
00:28:12,824 --> 00:28:15,464
It needs to be funny
even if people arent familiar
673
00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:16,800
with the original
source material.
674
00:28:16,795 --> 00:28:18,695
But I would say
probably 90% of the time,
675
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,897
Im just dealing with
what is a very current,
676
00:28:20,899 --> 00:28:22,469
popular mainstream song,
677
00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:25,697
and how can I somehow
make that strange?
678
00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:26,844
♪ Just eat it ♪
679
00:28:26,838 --> 00:28:27,708
♪ Eat it ♪
680
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:28,506
♪ Eat it ♪
681
00:28:28,507 --> 00:28:29,637
♪ Eat it ♪
682
00:28:29,641 --> 00:28:32,441
♪ Open up your mouth
and feed it ♪
683
00:28:32,444 --> 00:28:34,114
♪ Have some more yogurt ♪
684
00:28:34,112 --> 00:28:35,752
♪ Have some more Spam ♪
685
00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:38,777
♪ It doesnt matter
if its fresh or canned ♪
686
00:28:38,784 --> 00:28:40,094
♪ Just eat it ♪
687
00:28:40,085 --> 00:28:40,985
♪ Eat it ♪
688
00:28:40,986 --> 00:28:42,046
Man: "Eat It" is Weird Als
689
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:44,294
most successful parody to date.
690
00:28:44,289 --> 00:28:45,789
As you can see, it is a video
691
00:28:45,791 --> 00:28:48,831
as well as a musical parody
of Michael Jacksons work.
692
00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:51,397
Yankovic: I did a parody of
every single shot in that video,
693
00:28:51,396 --> 00:28:53,356
because people were
so familiar with it,
694
00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:55,325
and it was like they knew
every little detail.
695
00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:57,344
So all I had to do was
just tweak everything
696
00:28:57,336 --> 00:28:59,166
just a little bit,
and it became funny.
697
00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:01,771
♪ We been spending
most our lives ♪
698
00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:05,183
♪ Living in an Amish paradise ♪
699
00:29:05,177 --> 00:29:07,407
Oswalt: Weird Al Yankovic,
when he does a parody
700
00:29:07,412 --> 00:29:10,012
or a satire of a song,
its a song that he has to admit
701
00:29:10,015 --> 00:29:11,845
on one level, like,
"That is a good song,
702
00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:14,220
but I can have
some fun with it."
703
00:29:14,219 --> 00:29:16,049
When he did the song
"Perform This Way,"
704
00:29:16,054 --> 00:29:17,394
he asked Lady Gaga,
705
00:29:17,389 --> 00:29:19,219
and she said, "Well,
that song is very important.
706
00:29:19,224 --> 00:29:20,464
Id really you rather
not you not."
707
00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:23,999
And her fans said,
"You let Weird Al do that!"
708
00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:26,196
Like, they got ‐‐ like,
"Oh, sorry, I didnt know.
709
00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:27,798
Never mind, go ahead."
710
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:29,669
♪ Im sure my critics will say ♪
711
00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:31,338
♪ Its a grotesque display ♪
712
00:29:31,336 --> 00:29:32,996
♪ Well, they can bite me ♪
713
00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:35,135
♪ Baby, I perform this way ♪
714
00:29:35,140 --> 00:29:37,140
♪ I might be
wearin Swiss cheese ♪
715
00:29:37,142 --> 00:29:39,082
♪ Or maybe covered with bees ♪
716
00:29:39,077 --> 00:29:41,177
♪ It doesnt mean Im crazy ♪
717
00:29:41,179 --> 00:29:42,809
♪ I perform this way ♪
718
00:29:42,814 --> 00:29:46,284
What I like about my job
is Im a pop culture Cuisinart.
719
00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,415
I get all this input
from everywhere,
720
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:50,460
and I mix it all up,
and I spew it out.
721
00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:52,615
Im providing
cultural commentary,
722
00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:53,964
and, hopefully,
its amusing to people.
723
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:55,329
♪ I perform this way, hey ♪
724
00:29:55,327 --> 00:29:57,397
♪ Im really not insane ♪
725
00:29:57,396 --> 00:30:00,466
♪ I just perform this way, hey ♪
726
00:30:07,205 --> 00:30:10,235
♪
727
00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:11,639
Thats dandy.
728
00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:13,483
Ho, ho, thats rich, Ill say.
729
00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:16,408
Now, how about
some color, stupid?!
730
00:30:16,415 --> 00:30:18,045
Hey!
731
00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:20,390
OBrien: My big influence
when I was a kid
732
00:30:20,385 --> 00:30:22,245
was Warner Bros. cartoons.
733
00:30:22,254 --> 00:30:24,764
The timing on those
is brilliant.
734
00:30:24,756 --> 00:30:27,256
They were parodying things
that I didnt understand,
735
00:30:27,259 --> 00:30:29,059
but it was still really funny.
736
00:30:29,528 --> 00:30:31,828
[ Bell ringing ]
737
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,000
Heil Hitler.
738
00:30:33,999 --> 00:30:35,899
Alterman: One of the things
that animation has
739
00:30:35,901 --> 00:30:37,701
that gives it
certain advantages
740
00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:38,903
is that on the surface,
741
00:30:38,904 --> 00:30:41,844
it has the appearance
of being very safe.
742
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,980
And so animators can be
more be more satirical.
743
00:30:44,976 --> 00:30:46,576
It just feels
a little bit more benign
744
00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:47,778
because its animated.
745
00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:49,979
Well, Dave, I have
a hilarious new movie
746
00:30:49,981 --> 00:30:51,821
coming out on HBO
next month.
747
00:30:51,817 --> 00:30:53,077
Its all about 9/11.
748
00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:56,485
The movies called
"September 11, 2000‐Fun."
749
00:30:56,488 --> 00:30:57,718
[ Gasping ]
750
00:30:57,723 --> 00:31:00,563
Smith: Anybody thats
gonna do parody or satire
751
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:01,959
can say so many things.
752
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,760
You can go so many places.
753
00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:05,732
Just the practicality
of not having
754
00:31:05,731 --> 00:31:07,571
to build these things
in the real world
755
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:09,166
and having an actor do them.
756
00:31:09,167 --> 00:31:11,897
You can have Homer roll out
the door, roll out the hill,
757
00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:13,403
oh, and roll back into the car
758
00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:14,835
as it then plummets off a cliff.
759
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,210
Aaah!
760
00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:20,208
OBrien: "The Simpsons" can cram
650 pop culture references
761
00:31:20,212 --> 00:31:22,312
quietly into an episode,
762
00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:24,124
and you either pick it up
or you dont.
763
00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:25,376
But its there.
764
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:28,724
So theyre just the little
parody Easter eggs
765
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,920
all over the place.
766
00:31:29,921 --> 00:31:31,721
[ "The Jetsons" theme plays ]
767
00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:35,063
McKay: "The Simpsons," to
pretty much all comedy writers,
768
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:38,460
theyre the cathedral that
you walk 800 miles to go see.
769
00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:41,233
I mean, they the are definitive.
770
00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:44,173
OBrien: I always had a little
bit of a cartoon sensibility,
771
00:31:44,169 --> 00:31:45,769
and then, lo and behold,
all these years later,
772
00:31:45,771 --> 00:31:47,811
I get a job at "The Simpsons."
773
00:31:47,806 --> 00:31:51,106
[ Ominous music plays ]
774
00:31:51,109 --> 00:31:52,839
There was an episode
when I worked there
775
00:31:52,844 --> 00:31:54,554
that was a "Cape Fear" parody.
776
00:31:54,546 --> 00:31:56,476
It was all about Sideshow Bob
777
00:31:56,481 --> 00:32:00,121
coming to get
his revenge against Bart.
778
00:32:00,118 --> 00:32:04,888
Whats great is that you dont
need to have seen "Cape Fear."
779
00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:07,230
The beauty of "The Simpsons"
is you dont need
780
00:32:07,225 --> 00:32:09,725
to know the reference
in order to still think
781
00:32:09,728 --> 00:32:11,828
that something funny
is happening.
782
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:14,400
[ Humming ]
783
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:15,869
Hows it going, guys?
784
00:32:15,867 --> 00:32:17,337
Smith:
When "South Park" happened,
785
00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:19,995
the vessel of animation,
it could look like shit,
786
00:32:20,005 --> 00:32:21,705
it could look like
your kid did it.
787
00:32:21,706 --> 00:32:23,136
The car that gets you
there dont matter,
788
00:32:23,141 --> 00:32:24,581
its whats inside the car,
789
00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:26,436
its the content
thats traveling.
790
00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:30,345
[ Zany cartoon music plays ]
791
00:32:30,348 --> 00:32:31,378
Ramadan!
792
00:32:31,383 --> 00:32:32,423
Hey, look, an infidel!
793
00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:35,117
Ooh!
Oh, pig‐kebab!
794
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,790
McGraw: Dont let the fact
that its animated
795
00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:38,018
and dont let the fact
796
00:32:38,023 --> 00:32:41,233
that its about a bunch
of children fool you.
797
00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:44,061
It is about satire.
798
00:32:44,062 --> 00:32:47,002
This year, were taking the boys
on a weekend boat trip
799
00:32:46,998 --> 00:32:50,338
to discuss Jesus role
as the navigator of our lives.
800
00:32:50,335 --> 00:32:51,965
A Catholic boat trip?
801
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:55,310
♪ The Catholic Boat ♪
802
00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:59,437
♪ Its gonna be heading
on out today ♪
803
00:32:59,444 --> 00:33:01,414
[ Screaming ]
804
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:03,723
People who hate religion have,
like, really glommed on
805
00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:05,475
to our show, too, cause we
make fun of a lot of religion.
806
00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:06,824
Weve made fun of...
‐Everything.
807
00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:07,788
...everything.
808
00:33:07,786 --> 00:33:09,816
I have,
in my possession,
809
00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:11,861
an ancient book written
on gold plates
810
00:33:11,857 --> 00:33:14,427
that tells of Jesus Christs
second coming ‐‐
811
00:33:14,426 --> 00:33:16,656
here, in America!
812
00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:18,501
In America?
Really?
813
00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:20,867
That sounds kind of...
814
00:33:20,866 --> 00:33:23,366
♪ Dumb, dumb, dumb,
dumb, dumb, dumb ♪
815
00:33:23,368 --> 00:33:25,838
OBrien: Those "South Park" guys
clearly just live in a bunker.
816
00:33:25,837 --> 00:33:27,307
Or theyre sociopaths.
817
00:33:27,305 --> 00:33:30,505
They do not care
who they offend.
818
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,079
They burn every bridge,
819
00:33:32,077 --> 00:33:34,477
and they have
absolutely no fear.
820
00:33:34,479 --> 00:33:37,579
Man: The category is
"People Who Annoy You."
821
00:33:37,582 --> 00:33:39,722
Audience, keep quiet.
822
00:33:39,718 --> 00:33:42,988
I know it, but I dont think
I should say it.
823
00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:44,188
Five seconds,
Mr. Marsh.
824
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:47,529
All right, Id like
to solve the puzzle.
825
00:33:47,526 --> 00:33:49,686
Niggers!
826
00:33:51,396 --> 00:33:53,056
[ Buzzer ]
827
00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:54,474
Huh?
828
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,126
Parker: I dont think weve
ever come up with something
829
00:33:56,134 --> 00:33:57,744
and the been like, "Oh, thats
really going too far,"
830
00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,836
you know, because
you cant do that.
831
00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:01,638
The groups that come
and get angry at us,
832
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,140
once we start saying,
"Okay, we better not
833
00:34:03,141 --> 00:34:04,281
make fun of them anymore,"
834
00:34:04,276 --> 00:34:05,576
then all of a sudden,
none of its okay.
835
00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:07,947
It either has to all be okay
or none of its okay.
836
00:34:07,946 --> 00:34:10,106
There was just one thing
you didnt count on.
837
00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:12,615
That more people besides me
hate "Family Guy."
838
00:34:12,617 --> 00:34:13,947
Yeah.
839
00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:17,262
King: Tonight, "Family Guy"
creator Seth MacFarlane.
840
00:34:17,255 --> 00:34:19,715
Hes an equal opportunity
offender.
841
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:22,394
Christians, gays,
Sarah Palin,
842
00:34:22,394 --> 00:34:25,404
you name it, nothing,
no one off limits.
843
00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:26,757
They live in
a crummy neighborhood.
844
00:34:26,765 --> 00:34:28,125
‐The Bradys?
‐Oh, hell yeah!
845
00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:30,703
They got robbers, thugs,
drug dealers, oh, you name it.
846
00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,402
‐You folks want some pancakes?
‐No, thank you.
847
00:34:33,405 --> 00:34:36,005
See, thats the worst we got
is Jemimas Witnesses.
848
00:34:36,007 --> 00:34:39,237
What is the line for you?
Is there a line?
849
00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:41,954
The JFK Pez dispenser,
I wish wed never done.
850
00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:42,807
Really?
Yeah.
851
00:34:42,814 --> 00:34:44,324
That was just
over the line.
852
00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:45,916
‐Take him out.
‐No!
853
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:49,317
Check it out. Its
a John F. Kennedy Pez dispenser.
854
00:34:49,321 --> 00:34:50,821
Oh.
855
00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:54,892
Well, good thing I still have
my Bobby Kennedy Pez dispenser.
856
00:34:54,893 --> 00:34:57,763
Seth MacFarlane
pushes the envelope
857
00:34:57,762 --> 00:35:00,732
more than Ive ever
seen anyone else do.
858
00:35:00,732 --> 00:35:01,832
Oh, screw this.
859
00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:03,603
I just came over
to buy some fireworks.
860
00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:06,572
Its a little bit hateful,
a little bit hurtful.
861
00:35:06,571 --> 00:35:09,171
But its ‐‐ Oh, my God,
its so fucking funny.
862
00:35:09,174 --> 00:35:11,484
Sorry, Wonder Woman,
I got three kings.
863
00:35:11,476 --> 00:35:13,036
Now, lets
see your pair.
864
00:35:13,044 --> 00:35:14,984
[ Sighs ]
865
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:16,480
[ Chuckles ] All right.
866
00:35:16,481 --> 00:35:17,951
Hey, Robin, what are you
looking at me for?
867
00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:19,079
Look at her.
868
00:35:19,084 --> 00:35:20,754
[ Gunfire ]
McKay: Animation allows you
869
00:35:20,752 --> 00:35:21,692
to do whatever you want.
870
00:35:21,686 --> 00:35:23,016
Its probably the freest form
871
00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:24,521
for your imagination there is.
872
00:35:24,522 --> 00:35:26,122
Down in front!
In that sense,
873
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:27,534
its a comedy writers dream.
874
00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:30,695
If I were 23 again
and starting over,
875
00:35:30,695 --> 00:35:33,155
I would beeline
towards animation.
876
00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:35,034
You may not be
old enough to drive,
877
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:38,573
but if youre a safe passenger,
youve got a job to do.
878
00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:40,840
Gary is checking to make sure
that the parking brake
879
00:35:40,839 --> 00:35:42,809
is in the proper
release position.
880
00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,177
All clear, Gary?
881
00:35:44,175 --> 00:35:46,435
Smith: The ability to tell
outlandish stories
882
00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:49,784
and very small jokes
at the same time is yours
883
00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:51,621
if youve mastered animation.
884
00:35:51,616 --> 00:35:54,146
Im Han Solo, captain of
the Millennium Falcon
885
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:57,692
and the only actor whose career
isnt destroyed by this movie.
886
00:36:08,967 --> 00:36:11,997
[ Hard rock music plays ]
887
00:36:13,938 --> 00:36:17,778
Ewokoniad
Sigourneth Juniorstein,
888
00:36:17,776 --> 00:36:19,706
Oklahoma State University.
889
00:36:19,711 --> 00:36:23,811
Eqqsquizitine Buble‐Schwingslow,
University of Nebraska.
890
00:36:23,815 --> 00:36:25,375
OBrien: I dont know
that the Internet
891
00:36:25,383 --> 00:36:30,423
has changed
comedy itself that much.
892
00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:31,922
Theres a lot more of it.
893
00:36:31,923 --> 00:36:34,333
But still when you look
at the individual pieces,
894
00:36:34,325 --> 00:36:35,285
its still comedy.
895
00:36:35,293 --> 00:36:36,493
Rushing.
896
00:36:36,494 --> 00:36:39,164
Its the way we experience
it thats changed.
897
00:36:39,164 --> 00:36:41,234
Oswalt: The reason
that parody is so enduring
898
00:36:41,232 --> 00:36:42,932
and is even stronger now
is because
899
00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:45,674
we are in this
viral Internet culture,
900
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:48,470
where most stuff is now
watched online in little bits,
901
00:36:48,473 --> 00:36:50,883
and its presented in
an, "Oh, you got to see this.
902
00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:53,105
Click on this,
youre not gonna believe."
903
00:36:54,846 --> 00:36:56,976
Hey, dont call me bitch!
Im a grown man!
904
00:36:59,384 --> 00:37:00,894
God, youre mean.
905
00:37:03,188 --> 00:37:04,288
[ Sobs ]
906
00:37:04,289 --> 00:37:05,859
[ Laughs ]
907
00:37:05,857 --> 00:37:08,087
McKay: The idea was everything.
The idea was parody.
908
00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:10,963
Why are there newspapers
all over the place?
909
00:37:10,962 --> 00:37:14,302
Political satire,
crazy characters, sketches.
910
00:37:14,299 --> 00:37:18,239
It was anything that was fun
that you wanted to try
911
00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,606
that a network
would never put on.
912
00:37:20,605 --> 00:37:23,235
I would like to welcome
my first guest,
913
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,611
Jessica Cheststain.
914
00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:27,110
Jessica Chastain.
915
00:37:27,112 --> 00:37:28,452
Jenkins:
With "Between Two Ferns,"
916
00:37:28,446 --> 00:37:30,506
you had a program that
its a send‐up of talk shows,
917
00:37:30,515 --> 00:37:32,445
so its a satire
of talk shows.
918
00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:35,790
Real interested in the work
youve been doing down in Haiti.
919
00:37:35,787 --> 00:37:38,057
Tell us a little
bit about that.
920
00:37:38,056 --> 00:37:39,716
‐Well ‐‐
‐Is there a Six Flags
921
00:37:39,724 --> 00:37:42,734
down there?
‐Theres not, no.
922
00:37:42,727 --> 00:37:44,757
Okay, we can move on.
923
00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:46,433
The new media stuff,
especially sites
924
00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:47,771
that are just for comedy,
925
00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:49,896
I think that theyre a good
thing for the business.
926
00:37:49,901 --> 00:37:51,771
Especially Funny or Die,
which is great because
927
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,040
there is
a democratization there.
928
00:37:53,037 --> 00:37:54,407
Hey, dude, you want
to play Madden?
929
00:37:54,405 --> 00:37:57,035
The things that succeed
on the Internet
930
00:37:57,041 --> 00:37:58,641
is happening organically.
931
00:37:58,643 --> 00:38:01,313
If Im seeing
a really hilarious video,
932
00:38:01,312 --> 00:38:03,052
its largely because
someone shared it.
933
00:38:03,047 --> 00:38:05,517
♪ Its the chronic, what,
cles of Narnia ♪
934
00:38:05,517 --> 00:38:07,487
♪ We love that chronic,
what, cles of Narnia ♪
935
00:38:07,485 --> 00:38:08,415
♪ Pass that chronic ♪
936
00:38:08,419 --> 00:38:10,289
Man: It all began with this,
937
00:38:10,288 --> 00:38:13,958
when a comedy rap video pirated
from "Saturday Night Live"...
938
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:15,228
♪ I set up Yahoo Maps ♪
939
00:38:15,226 --> 00:38:17,186
...turned up
on the web site YouTube,
940
00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:19,395
the suits at NBC took notice.
941
00:38:19,397 --> 00:38:23,597
They didnt like the piracy,
but they sure loved the buzz.
942
00:38:23,601 --> 00:38:25,041
It spread like wildfire.
943
00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:27,806
Six million streams.
944
00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,906
Miller: Baby‐boomers
who grew up with "SNL,"
945
00:38:29,908 --> 00:38:32,078
they stopped watching
at a certain point.
946
00:38:32,076 --> 00:38:34,676
And if youre gonna be
on network television
947
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,879
for 40 years,
you adapt or die.
948
00:38:36,881 --> 00:38:38,921
Lonely Island
and those digital shorts
949
00:38:38,917 --> 00:38:42,487
gave a whole new port of entry
for younger viewers
950
00:38:42,487 --> 00:38:44,487
who maybe hadnt even
seen the show.
951
00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:47,329
♪ He ran for
the president of Iran ♪
952
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,825
♪ We ran together
to a tropical island ♪
953
00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:51,328
Guthrie: Digital shorts
are obviously
954
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:52,559
how you made your name.
955
00:38:52,564 --> 00:38:54,704
My favorite is
"Blank in a Box."
956
00:38:54,699 --> 00:38:55,799
"Blank in a Box."
Yes.
957
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Thats what we can say
in the morning.
958
00:38:57,402 --> 00:38:58,742
♪ One ♪
959
00:38:58,736 --> 00:39:00,566
♪ Cut a hole in a box ♪
960
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:01,642
♪ Two ♪
961
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,569
♪ Put your junk in that box ♪
962
00:39:03,575 --> 00:39:04,605
♪ Three ♪
963
00:39:04,609 --> 00:39:06,439
♪ Make her open the box ♪
964
00:39:06,444 --> 00:39:08,684
♪ And thats way you do it ♪
965
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,550
♪ Its my dick in a box ♪
966
00:39:10,548 --> 00:39:13,378
What they do isnt direct
parodies, like Im famous for.
967
00:39:13,384 --> 00:39:16,724
But theyll take various memes,
if you will, in pop music,
968
00:39:16,721 --> 00:39:19,321
and theyll make it more
ridiculous than it is already.
969
00:39:19,324 --> 00:39:20,894
Its a kind of a caricature.
970
00:39:20,892 --> 00:39:23,492
And we have breaking news!
Baby Lakeisha has gone missing.
971
00:39:23,494 --> 00:39:25,134
For the next hour, we will ‐‐
whats that?
972
00:39:25,129 --> 00:39:28,229
Nobody cares? Moving on, lets
check in with Baby Prudence.
973
00:39:28,233 --> 00:39:32,203
Her 14th day home,
and shes still safe and sound.
974
00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:34,843
Key: New media and YouTube
and the Internet in regard
975
00:39:34,839 --> 00:39:37,909
to the success of our show
is the success of our show.
976
00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:41,049
For example, I was stopped
one day on the street by a girl,
977
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,405
and she said to me,
978
00:39:42,413 --> 00:39:43,983
"Ive been with you guys
since the beginning,
979
00:39:43,982 --> 00:39:46,752
when you guys
were making videos."
980
00:39:46,751 --> 00:39:50,761
She had no idea
that we had a television show.
981
00:39:50,755 --> 00:39:53,815
‐Could be worse.
‐Not that bad.
982
00:39:53,825 --> 00:39:55,425
Brennan:
Their show was mostly online.
983
00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:57,286
Their show was mostly
YouTube clips.
984
00:39:57,295 --> 00:40:00,395
I watched one of their sketches
on YouTube, and then at the end,
985
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,328
Jordan and Keegan come on,
and theyre basically like,
986
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:04,103
"Look, we appreciate
you watching.
987
00:40:04,102 --> 00:40:07,512
Would you please watch
the broadcast show?"
988
00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:09,305
They were, like, begging.
989
00:40:09,307 --> 00:40:10,667
Thats the way
networks make money.
990
00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:13,135
Thats where the profit is,
is on the network,
991
00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:14,984
is broadcasting.
992
00:40:14,979 --> 00:40:16,149
Jequallin.
993
00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:17,477
Key: We didnt know
this was gonna happen.
994
00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:19,522
If you told me
that "Substitute Teacher"
995
00:40:19,517 --> 00:40:21,787
was gonna have
98 million hits online,
996
00:40:21,786 --> 00:40:23,716
Im like, "What?"
997
00:40:23,721 --> 00:40:26,291
Uh, do you mean
Jacqueline?
998
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:28,961
Okay. So thats
how its gonna be.
999
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,730
Yall want to play.
1000
00:40:30,728 --> 00:40:32,828
Okay, then.
1001
00:40:32,830 --> 00:40:35,270
Ive got my eye
on you, Jequallin.
1002
00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:36,796
Key:
Or that in the aggregate,
1003
00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,101
were approaching
a billion hits.
1004
00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:42,373
This is Key and Peele,
a billion?!
1005
00:40:42,373 --> 00:40:44,013
Like, "What?!"
1006
00:40:44,008 --> 00:40:45,378
[ British accent ]
Pack your fucking knifes.
1007
00:40:45,376 --> 00:40:48,006
Get out.
Youre off the show.
1008
00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:50,822
Sorry, Chef.
1009
00:40:50,815 --> 00:40:52,715
Because...
1010
00:40:52,717 --> 00:40:53,947
you should be working
1011
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:57,322
in the finest
restaurant in the world.
1012
00:40:57,322 --> 00:40:59,192
‐Thank you, Chef.
‐Just not any world
1013
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:01,090
that I live in.
1014
00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:03,492
Mankoff: One of the things that
humor and humor and comedy does
1015
00:41:03,494 --> 00:41:05,034
is it gets your attention.
1016
00:41:05,029 --> 00:41:06,699
If it comes
in the form of a joke,
1017
00:41:06,698 --> 00:41:08,768
if it comes
in the form of satire,
1018
00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:10,726
if it has
an entertainment value,
1019
00:41:10,735 --> 00:41:12,695
you know,
people will listen to it.
1020
00:41:12,704 --> 00:41:15,444
Working off of something
thats in pop culture
1021
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,240
is very satisfying because
it gives everyone a sense
1022
00:41:18,242 --> 00:41:19,742
that were all in on it.
1023
00:41:19,744 --> 00:41:23,114
And in a fractured age
where people feel very alone,
1024
00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:25,854
I think a lot
of mankinds desire
1025
00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:27,920
is to feel like were together.
1026
00:41:27,919 --> 00:41:29,949
I know yall do these
parodies on your show.
1027
00:41:29,954 --> 00:41:31,324
Oh, thank you.
1028
00:41:31,322 --> 00:41:32,762
Well, "thank you," no.
1029
00:41:32,757 --> 00:41:35,257
Dont do one of "Empire."
1030
00:41:35,259 --> 00:41:39,129
I wouldnt do that.
1031
00:41:39,130 --> 00:41:41,370
Okay.
Okay.
1032
00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:42,466
Well, Im gonna
[bleep] things up
1033
00:41:42,467 --> 00:41:44,337
if youre [bleep]
with me, man.
1034
00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:46,735
What if ‐‐ we may be
there already.
1035
00:41:46,738 --> 00:41:50,268
But what if, as a nation ‐‐
or as a world,
1036
00:41:50,274 --> 00:41:54,484
too many of us
are spending too much time
1037
00:41:54,479 --> 00:41:57,849
parodying
and satirizing culture?
1038
00:41:57,849 --> 00:42:00,419
No ones gonna be
growing crops.
1039
00:42:00,418 --> 00:42:02,488
No ones going to be
trucking them into cities.
1040
00:42:02,487 --> 00:42:04,317
No ones going to
be canning goods.
1041
00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:05,862
Were all just gonna be,
1042
00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:08,287
"Look what I just made.
I just made this funny thing."
1043
00:42:08,292 --> 00:42:11,332
And future aliens
will come to this earth
1044
00:42:11,329 --> 00:42:13,529
and find our skeletons
holding our devices.
1045
00:42:13,531 --> 00:42:14,701
[ Laughs ]
1046
00:42:14,699 --> 00:42:17,199
Theyll realize
that the Romans collapsed
1047
00:42:17,201 --> 00:42:18,801
because there was lead
in the water.
1048
00:42:18,803 --> 00:42:22,713
We might be killed by
too much parody and satire.
79770
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