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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,710 --> 00:00:03,169 A fiery object 2 00:00:03,169 --> 00:00:04,794 crashes into the Earth 3 00:00:04,796 --> 00:00:08,840 and ignites the modern UFO era. 4 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:11,134 It would become the absolute touchstone event 5 00:00:11,135 --> 00:00:13,346 and the best‐known event in the world 6 00:00:13,346 --> 00:00:16,015 connecting our reality to the E. T. phenomenon. 7 00:00:16,015 --> 00:00:18,350 For more than seven decades, 8 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:21,187 the Army has denied what it initially reported‐‐ 9 00:00:21,187 --> 00:00:24,356 that it had recovered a flying disc. 10 00:00:24,358 --> 00:00:28,527 But could evidence of such an event still exist? 11 00:00:28,527 --> 00:00:31,030 ‐ ‐Oh, my God. There is something there, 12 00:00:31,030 --> 00:00:32,948 and we need to dig it up. 13 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:35,201 Are there remnants of alien technology 14 00:00:35,201 --> 00:00:37,869 scattered in the New Mexico desert? 15 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:40,039 I think he's holding something 16 00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:42,165 made by another intelligence. 17 00:00:42,167 --> 00:00:44,543 I have never, ever seen anything like this. 18 00:00:44,545 --> 00:00:46,045 And could materials 19 00:00:46,045 --> 00:00:49,381 already recovered soon reveal the truth 20 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:52,718 about an extraterrestrial presence on Earth? 21 00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:54,929 There's something big going on here. 22 00:00:54,929 --> 00:00:56,930 I'm getting chills because we've got some elements 23 00:00:56,932 --> 00:00:59,015 that are showing up‐‐ they shouldn't be there. 24 00:00:59,017 --> 00:01:01,185 If the evidence has not yet been 25 00:01:01,185 --> 00:01:04,397 uncovered, that does not mean the evidence 26 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:05,691 is not there. 27 00:01:08,025 --> 00:01:10,278 There is a doorway 28 00:01:10,278 --> 00:01:13,072 in the universe. 29 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:16,075 Beyond it is the promise of truth. 30 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:19,787 It demands we question everything 31 00:01:19,787 --> 00:01:22,081 we have ever been taught. 32 00:01:22,081 --> 00:01:26,418 The evidence is all around us. 33 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:29,879 The future is right before our eyes. 34 00:01:29,881 --> 00:01:32,549 We are not alone. 35 00:01:32,551 --> 00:01:36,138 We have never been alone. 36 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:45,938 Los Angeles, California. 37 00:01:45,938 --> 00:01:48,774 October 2019. 38 00:01:48,775 --> 00:01:52,569 Ancient astronaut theorist Giorgio Tsoukalos... 39 00:01:52,570 --> 00:01:54,572 ‐Hey, Linda. ‐...is meeting up 40 00:01:54,573 --> 00:01:56,740 with investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe 41 00:01:56,741 --> 00:01:58,825 at a secure storage facility. 42 00:01:58,826 --> 00:02:00,828 ‐All right, let's do it. ‐Let's go. 43 00:02:00,828 --> 00:02:03,414 For more than two decades, 44 00:02:03,415 --> 00:02:07,126 Linda has been in possession of highly unusual metal fragments 45 00:02:07,126 --> 00:02:09,753 given to her by someone who claims 46 00:02:09,754 --> 00:02:13,299 they were extracted from an extraterrestrial craft. 47 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:15,134 - ‐Man, this is some door. - ‐ 48 00:02:16,594 --> 00:02:18,429 Okay. 49 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:20,598 Well, over the years, 50 00:02:20,598 --> 00:02:22,599 I've learned that this is really 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,975 ‐pretty valuable. ‐Right. 52 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:25,978 And that I better keep it in something 53 00:02:25,978 --> 00:02:28,355 ‐like a safety deposit box. ‐Right. 54 00:02:28,356 --> 00:02:30,816 In recent months, 55 00:02:30,817 --> 00:02:33,985 the United States Army has taken an interest 56 00:02:33,986 --> 00:02:37,615 in doing its own examination of these materials. 57 00:02:37,615 --> 00:02:41,493 Linda is eager to show Giorgio just what it is 58 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:44,163 that has caught the Army's attention. 59 00:02:44,163 --> 00:02:48,209 Here is where the magic bismuth magnesium zinc resides. 60 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:50,836 There it is, inside the magic box. 61 00:02:50,836 --> 00:02:54,424 Yeah. Here, I'll take it over here and show it to you. 62 00:02:58,929 --> 00:03:01,138 I have found, 63 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:03,348 since having this 64 00:03:03,349 --> 00:03:05,183 in 1996 65 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:08,353 and evolving with research, that 66 00:03:08,354 --> 00:03:10,691 it has become now so valuable. 67 00:03:17,614 --> 00:03:19,782 What am I looking at, Linda? What is this? 68 00:03:19,783 --> 00:03:21,783 Well, here is... 69 00:03:21,784 --> 00:03:24,120 You see all these layers? 70 00:03:24,121 --> 00:03:27,622 ‐Yeah. ‐When you go to a scanning 71 00:03:27,623 --> 00:03:29,875 ‐electron microscope... ‐Huh. 72 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:31,585 And you see that the black, 73 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:34,879 the black side‐‐ it's pure bismuth, 74 00:03:34,881 --> 00:03:37,550 and it's one to four microns, which is about 75 00:03:37,550 --> 00:03:39,551 half the size of a blood cell, 76 00:03:39,552 --> 00:03:42,513 and then it's alternating just like a torte cake. 77 00:03:42,514 --> 00:03:44,557 Yeah. ‐And the top silver‐‐ 78 00:03:44,557 --> 00:03:46,891 that's the magnesium‐zinc alloy. 79 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:48,519 ‐Okay. ‐So, 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,854 layer by layer by layer in microns. 81 00:03:50,855 --> 00:03:52,897 It's almost as if it's reflective, too. 82 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:55,025 Yes, and when you get it 83 00:03:55,026 --> 00:03:57,569 in the sun, it looks like a snowfield. 84 00:03:57,570 --> 00:04:00,698 And that's the magnesium zinc. 85 00:04:00,699 --> 00:04:02,907 In addition to this layered material, 86 00:04:02,908 --> 00:04:06,662 Linda also has an unusual piece of aluminum. 87 00:04:06,663 --> 00:04:08,705 As I understand 88 00:04:08,706 --> 00:04:12,126 from a physicist, it is this 89 00:04:12,127 --> 00:04:16,422 pure aluminum, 99.5% pure aluminum. 90 00:04:16,423 --> 00:04:19,382 As far as I know, we can't produce 99 point... 91 00:04:19,384 --> 00:04:21,677 I mean, this is incredibly pure. 92 00:04:21,677 --> 00:04:25,055 So where were these pieces allegedly found? 93 00:04:25,055 --> 00:04:28,225 These came out of White Sands 94 00:04:28,225 --> 00:04:30,853 in New Mexico, outside of Roswell. 95 00:04:30,853 --> 00:04:34,649 Is there a connection to Roswell with this piece? 96 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:39,235 In July of 1947, 97 00:04:39,237 --> 00:04:41,613 an unidentified flying object 98 00:04:41,615 --> 00:04:43,406 crashed to Earth in the desert 99 00:04:43,408 --> 00:04:45,951 just outside Roswell, New Mexico. 100 00:04:45,951 --> 00:04:50,622 It is today the most famous UFO event on record, 101 00:04:50,624 --> 00:04:53,209 in part because it was the Army itself 102 00:04:53,209 --> 00:04:57,254 that reported the craft as a flying disc. 103 00:04:57,254 --> 00:05:01,091 July 8 and 9, the newspaper headlines‐‐ 104 00:05:01,091 --> 00:05:04,470 "Army Captures Flying Disc Outside of Roswell." 105 00:05:04,471 --> 00:05:07,305 How did the newspaper get that story? Walter Haut. 106 00:05:07,307 --> 00:05:10,141 He was the official public information officer 107 00:05:10,143 --> 00:05:13,394 at the Roswell 509th, who gave the story to the newspaper. 108 00:05:13,396 --> 00:05:15,814 But the military 109 00:05:15,815 --> 00:05:17,983 quickly walked back its story. 110 00:05:17,983 --> 00:05:21,653 Within days, the mysterious Roswell UFO 111 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:25,490 was given an earthly origin, when the government claimed 112 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:28,661 that the downed craft was merely a weather balloon. 113 00:05:28,661 --> 00:05:30,079 They changed it and said 114 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:31,956 it was a weather balloon and everything else. 115 00:05:31,956 --> 00:05:33,331 They said they took it 116 00:05:33,332 --> 00:05:35,292 to Wright‐Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. 117 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:37,461 When you really think about this, 118 00:05:37,461 --> 00:05:40,673 why on earth would anyone send any kind 119 00:05:40,673 --> 00:05:45,511 of weather balloon to Wright Field for technical analysis? 120 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:47,262 None of it makes any sense whatsoever, 121 00:05:47,264 --> 00:05:50,098 unless that material was much more exotic 122 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:52,100 and much more scientifically interesting 123 00:05:52,101 --> 00:05:53,810 than just a mere balloon. 124 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:55,687 When you look 125 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:57,189 at the whole Roswell incident, 126 00:05:57,189 --> 00:06:00,358 it seems to be a recovery that 127 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,487 was very much a scrambled ad hoc thing. 128 00:06:03,487 --> 00:06:07,365 And, in fact, witnesses had been to the crash site 129 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:09,285 before the military got there. 130 00:06:09,286 --> 00:06:13,831 So in the chaos of trying to clean up this crash site, 131 00:06:13,831 --> 00:06:17,250 you have to wonder that whether they would really get it all. 132 00:06:17,252 --> 00:06:19,879 Where would this material 133 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:21,629 actually go? 134 00:06:21,630 --> 00:06:23,673 And would they have left some of it behind, 135 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:25,343 just by accident? 136 00:06:27,428 --> 00:06:29,930 In April 2011, 137 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:32,682 the FBI released thousands of files 138 00:06:32,683 --> 00:06:35,269 as part of its online FBI vault, 139 00:06:35,269 --> 00:06:38,021 including a 1950 briefing 140 00:06:38,023 --> 00:06:40,356 to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover 141 00:06:40,358 --> 00:06:42,358 regarding informant information 142 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,278 about three flying saucers 143 00:06:44,278 --> 00:06:46,572 that were recovered in New Mexico. 144 00:06:46,572 --> 00:06:48,574 Many researchers believe 145 00:06:48,574 --> 00:06:51,034 this corroborates long‐standing rumors 146 00:06:51,036 --> 00:06:54,120 that the Roswell incident involved not one 147 00:06:54,122 --> 00:06:57,374 but three crashed UFOs. 148 00:06:57,375 --> 00:07:00,418 And there were numerous other incidents reported 149 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,588 during that time period in the area 150 00:07:02,588 --> 00:07:05,214 of Roswell and White Sands Proving Ground 151 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:08,009 that remain mostly unknown. 152 00:07:08,011 --> 00:07:11,555 You look at where the world today, when they think 153 00:07:11,555 --> 00:07:13,473 of a UFO crash, they think of Roswell. 154 00:07:13,475 --> 00:07:16,060 ‐Mm‐hmm. ‐Certainly there have been crashes 155 00:07:16,060 --> 00:07:18,312 in New Mexico outside of Roswell. 156 00:07:18,312 --> 00:07:22,315 We know that there were a lot of UFO crashes going 157 00:07:22,317 --> 00:07:26,487 from the '40... like, '47, '48, '49, and so forth. 158 00:07:26,487 --> 00:07:29,238 How did you come into possession of these pieces? 159 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,951 Well, I'll never forget the day that Art Bell called me, 160 00:07:33,952 --> 00:07:37,790 and he said, "Linda, I received a box 161 00:07:37,790 --> 00:07:41,459 with a letter, and there's some metal pieces in here." 162 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:44,129 He said, "I think they're aluminum, 163 00:07:44,129 --> 00:07:47,632 but I want you to start investigating." 164 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:51,053 That would have been in 1996, that spring. 165 00:07:52,471 --> 00:07:56,141 Art Bell was the founder 166 00:07:56,141 --> 00:07:58,185 and original host of the long‐running, 167 00:07:58,185 --> 00:08:01,939 paranormal‐themed radio program Coast to Coast AM. 168 00:08:01,939 --> 00:08:05,942 In 1996, he and Linda began 169 00:08:05,944 --> 00:08:07,944 to receive shipments in the mail 170 00:08:07,946 --> 00:08:11,447 of small metallic fragments. 171 00:08:11,449 --> 00:08:13,992 We started getting two shipments 172 00:08:13,992 --> 00:08:16,786 coming from a man who identified himself 173 00:08:16,788 --> 00:08:20,124 in a series of five typed letters. 174 00:08:20,125 --> 00:08:22,167 And he said he was an Army sergeant, 175 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:25,504 that his grandfather had died in 1974, 176 00:08:25,504 --> 00:08:29,550 and had left a box that had a diary and metals. 177 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:31,634 And the Army sergeant said, 178 00:08:31,636 --> 00:08:35,179 "I want you to have this and see what you can find out." 179 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:37,515 The letters detail 180 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:40,686 how the grandfather extracted the metallic items 181 00:08:40,687 --> 00:08:42,312 from a wedge‐shaped craft 182 00:08:42,312 --> 00:08:44,690 while working as a member of a recovery crew 183 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:49,653 between Roswell and White Sands Proving Ground in 1948. 184 00:08:49,653 --> 00:08:53,532 Art Bell turned over these mysterious fragments and letters 185 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:56,534 to Linda Moulton Howe for further study. 186 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:59,538 In June of 1996, 187 00:08:59,538 --> 00:09:01,831 Linda commissioned university researchers 188 00:09:01,832 --> 00:09:04,168 to use a scanning electron microscope 189 00:09:04,168 --> 00:09:07,629 and a technique known as "X‐ray fluorescence spectrometry" 190 00:09:07,629 --> 00:09:10,506 to analyze the samples. 191 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:14,302 The analysis revealed alternating microscopic layers 192 00:09:14,303 --> 00:09:17,847 of the metals bismuth, magnesium and zinc 193 00:09:17,849 --> 00:09:20,558 only microns thick, 194 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,897 a combination that baffles exotic metal experts. 195 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:29,025 I think we've got technology that we didn't make. 196 00:09:29,027 --> 00:09:30,693 A lot of people have come forward 197 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:33,989 with bits and pieces of the same tale. 198 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:36,533 We are presently analyzing metamaterials 199 00:09:36,533 --> 00:09:38,201 that we did not make, 200 00:09:38,202 --> 00:09:41,038 that's created in a way that is beyond our technology. 201 00:09:41,038 --> 00:09:44,917 Are there more pieces of these items? 202 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:47,418 Well, for the last, uh, 15 years, 203 00:09:47,419 --> 00:09:50,254 I had a combination of another piece 204 00:09:50,255 --> 00:09:52,758 of the bismuth magnesium zinc 205 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:56,595 and another smaller piece of the aluminum. 206 00:09:56,596 --> 00:10:00,765 So, the pair that I had before is now involved 207 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:02,600 with military testing. 208 00:10:02,601 --> 00:10:06,062 In 2019, 209 00:10:06,063 --> 00:10:08,440 Linda handed over additional samples 210 00:10:08,441 --> 00:10:10,775 of the exotic metals for examination 211 00:10:10,777 --> 00:10:12,735 by the United States Army. 212 00:10:12,736 --> 00:10:16,072 As far as Linda is concerned, 213 00:10:16,073 --> 00:10:19,368 even though the fragments were allegedly taken from a craft 214 00:10:19,369 --> 00:10:22,745 that was in the Army's possession in 1948, 215 00:10:22,746 --> 00:10:25,289 there are likely only a handful of people 216 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:27,625 who are aware of its existence. 217 00:10:27,626 --> 00:10:31,712 She is hopeful that the examination of her materials 218 00:10:31,713 --> 00:10:34,758 will prove that they were not manufactured on Earth, 219 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:38,177 and perhaps those who know what really happened at Roswell 220 00:10:38,178 --> 00:10:40,639 will finally reveal both the truth 221 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:43,600 and what they recovered to the public. 222 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,147 Do you have any new leads that maybe happened recently 223 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:51,567 of someone that has found other material? 224 00:10:51,567 --> 00:10:55,696 Well, there is a geologist down in Roswell, 225 00:10:55,697 --> 00:10:58,115 and he has sent me e‐mails saying 226 00:10:58,115 --> 00:11:00,616 that he's got exotic metals 227 00:11:00,618 --> 00:11:02,952 and all of these materials. 228 00:11:02,953 --> 00:11:05,621 And I think we could go down there, 229 00:11:05,623 --> 00:11:07,624 see what he has found so far, 230 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:10,793 and maybe go out with him and explore ourselves. 231 00:11:10,794 --> 00:11:12,587 Awesome. Let's go. 232 00:11:12,589 --> 00:11:14,173 ♪ ♪ 233 00:11:14,173 --> 00:11:16,008 If multiple flying discs 234 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:19,677 crashed in the New Mexico desert in 1947, 235 00:11:19,678 --> 00:11:22,974 was all the debris recovered long ago? 236 00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:26,726 Or could there be remnants 237 00:11:26,727 --> 00:11:29,354 that were spirited away by curious locals 238 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:30,480 and military personnel, 239 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,692 and some still lying out in the open, 240 00:11:33,692 --> 00:11:36,111 waiting to be found? 241 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:44,036 Roswell, New Mexico. 242 00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:47,789 July 1947. 243 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:51,043 Major Jesse Marcel, 244 00:11:51,043 --> 00:11:54,879 the head intelligence officer at Roswell Army Air Field, 245 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,090 travels to Fort Worth, Texas, 246 00:11:57,091 --> 00:12:00,844 with the debris recovered from the Roswell crash site. 247 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:03,846 He and Brigadier General Roger Ramey, 248 00:12:03,847 --> 00:12:05,807 head of the Eighth Air Force, 249 00:12:05,807 --> 00:12:09,769 are scheduled to present their findings to the media. 250 00:12:09,770 --> 00:12:13,231 Jesse Marcel flies to Fort Worth, 251 00:12:13,232 --> 00:12:15,399 the headquarters of the Eighth Air Force, 252 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,236 and he's set up to tell the whole world 253 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:21,865 about the crash of a flying saucer at Roswell, 254 00:12:21,865 --> 00:12:24,909 except Roger Ramey says to Jesse Marcel, 255 00:12:24,911 --> 00:12:27,078 "Could you just go in the map room for a second? 256 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,956 I want to arrange some stuff out here." 257 00:12:28,956 --> 00:12:33,085 The story from Jesse Marcel and from the photographer 258 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:36,754 is that the real wreckage had been spirited away. 259 00:12:36,755 --> 00:12:38,756 "Hold up something. 260 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:41,759 "Get some Reynolds Wrap out‐‐ off‐off the fish in your freezer 261 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,096 and hold it up and say that's what you found, not a disc," 262 00:12:45,097 --> 00:12:46,722 which is exactly what they did. 263 00:12:46,724 --> 00:12:49,893 And the reporters basically just turned around, went home. 264 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:52,729 For UFO researchers, 265 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:55,856 evidence that the actual wreckage from Roswell 266 00:12:55,857 --> 00:12:58,192 was indeed replaced with a weather balloon 267 00:12:58,193 --> 00:13:00,988 can be found within the notorious photograph, 268 00:13:00,989 --> 00:13:05,783 along with clues as to what was being hidden from the public. 269 00:13:05,784 --> 00:13:07,827 When General Roger Ramey was, 270 00:13:07,828 --> 00:13:10,746 uh, posing for photographs with Jesse Marcel, 271 00:13:10,748 --> 00:13:12,206 in the aftermath of all this, 272 00:13:12,207 --> 00:13:15,293 you can see him very clearly holding a piece of paper. 273 00:13:15,294 --> 00:13:18,297 General Ramey had a document in his hands, 274 00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:20,506 the so‐called Ramey Memo. 275 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:23,342 Modern forensic document analysis 276 00:13:23,344 --> 00:13:25,136 and photographic enhancement 277 00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:29,307 has enabled some researchers to zoom in on this 278 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:33,312 and to clarify at least some portions of the text. 279 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:36,105 What it tells us is astounding. 280 00:13:36,106 --> 00:13:41,153 Some of the phrases in the memo are "victims of the wreck" 281 00:13:41,153 --> 00:13:44,155 and "disc which we will ship." 282 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:45,657 So, clearly, 283 00:13:45,658 --> 00:13:48,534 if the official story is true, 284 00:13:48,536 --> 00:13:50,327 well, this makes no sense. 285 00:13:50,328 --> 00:13:53,789 No, clearly, something more than just a weather balloon 286 00:13:53,790 --> 00:13:55,207 was involved here, 287 00:13:55,209 --> 00:13:58,794 and the memo might just be the smoking gun. 288 00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:02,798 As far as Roswell researchers are concerned, 289 00:14:02,799 --> 00:14:05,092 the memo points to a cover‐up, 290 00:14:05,094 --> 00:14:08,638 with the downed UFO and its extraterrestrial crew 291 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:09,847 being shipped from the base 292 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:13,184 and locked away from the public eye. 293 00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:14,811 But if true, 294 00:14:14,812 --> 00:14:17,188 might there be fragments of evidence from the crash 295 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:20,817 that were small enough to slip through the cracks? 296 00:14:20,817 --> 00:14:22,527 The question is always, well, 297 00:14:22,528 --> 00:14:24,488 where is the evidence, where is the evidence? 298 00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:27,783 Well, if the evidence has not yet been uncovered 299 00:14:27,783 --> 00:14:29,658 or dug out of the ground, 300 00:14:29,659 --> 00:14:33,873 that does not mean the evidence is not there. 301 00:14:37,501 --> 00:14:39,418 Central New Mexico. 302 00:14:39,419 --> 00:14:44,091 October 19, 2019. 303 00:14:46,219 --> 00:14:48,720 Investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe 304 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:52,890 has invited ancient astronaut theorist Giorgio Tsoukalos 305 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,059 to join her on a trip to a spot in the desert 306 00:14:55,061 --> 00:14:57,187 just outside Roswell, 307 00:14:57,187 --> 00:15:00,731 very near what is known as the "skip site." 308 00:15:00,732 --> 00:15:04,485 According to eyewitnesses, one of the three UFOs 309 00:15:04,486 --> 00:15:08,907 seen in the sky in July 1947 first crashed to Earth 310 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:13,452 near this location, then was propelled back into the air, 311 00:15:13,453 --> 00:15:18,582 skipping like a stone in a pond before finally coming to rest. 312 00:15:18,583 --> 00:15:22,254 Linda was contacted by geologist Frank Kimbler, 313 00:15:22,254 --> 00:15:25,215 who wants to show her mysterious metal fragments 314 00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:29,052 that he found here and search the area for more. 315 00:15:29,052 --> 00:15:31,011 Linda, this is so exciting. 316 00:15:31,013 --> 00:15:33,764 I have not been here in a couple of years. 317 00:15:33,765 --> 00:15:35,892 So, I'm really looking forward 318 00:15:35,893 --> 00:15:37,394 ‐t‐to meeting Frank. ‐Yeah. 319 00:15:37,394 --> 00:15:40,272 Well, I'm glad that we've got a geologist who's helping, 320 00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:43,066 because the geologist looks at land 321 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:44,692 and says if there is debris, 322 00:15:44,693 --> 00:15:48,822 there's going to be some kind of a drift with the land. 323 00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:51,783 And, just from what I know, he has studied 324 00:15:51,783 --> 00:15:53,994 some areas meticulously. 325 00:15:53,995 --> 00:15:55,996 Right. 326 00:16:00,208 --> 00:16:02,293 Giorgio and Linda arrive at the skip site 327 00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:03,961 and meet Frank Kimbler, 328 00:16:03,962 --> 00:16:07,131 a local geologist and professor of Earth science. 329 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,799 ‐How are you? Good to see you. ‐Nice to meet you. How are you? 330 00:16:08,801 --> 00:16:09,842 ‐All right. ‐Frank, it is... 331 00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:11,469 ‐Linda. Finally. ‐Yes. 332 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:13,638 You and I have been chasing these artifacts 333 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,639 ‐from UFOs... ‐Chasing the metals... 334 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,642 ‐...for so many years. ‐...looking for, looking for parts. 335 00:16:17,643 --> 00:16:19,101 ‐Yes! ‐lt's great. 336 00:16:19,102 --> 00:16:21,812 Professor Kimbler has spent nearly a decade 337 00:16:21,813 --> 00:16:24,524 searching areas beneath the purported trajectory 338 00:16:24,524 --> 00:16:27,485 of the Roswell craft with infrared technology 339 00:16:27,485 --> 00:16:29,821 and metal detectors. 340 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:32,657 When an object crashes, they're gonna scatter 341 00:16:32,658 --> 00:16:35,159 a variety of materials around. 342 00:16:35,161 --> 00:16:39,788 Knobs, control devices, plastic, wires, whatever. 343 00:16:39,789 --> 00:16:43,125 If it's coming apart, it's gonna leave those pieces behind. 344 00:16:43,126 --> 00:16:46,086 And those are the kinds of pieces that I want to find 345 00:16:46,087 --> 00:16:47,963 and have found some of. 346 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:51,509 Since 2011, Professor Kimbler has uncovered 347 00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:54,511 more than a dozen metal fragments that he has subjected 348 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:59,308 to scientific testing and found to be highly unique. 349 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:01,561 That's what... We want to go out there and see 350 00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:03,187 - ‐where you've been getting this. - Yeah, I can't wait. 351 00:17:03,188 --> 00:17:04,396 ‐Frank. ‐Yeah? 352 00:17:04,397 --> 00:17:05,856 What's inside the case? 353 00:17:05,857 --> 00:17:08,734 Oh, this, this is the magic right here. 354 00:17:08,736 --> 00:17:13,030 This is some of the material that I have found 355 00:17:13,031 --> 00:17:16,867 out here, uh, using a metal detector. 356 00:17:16,868 --> 00:17:18,286 - ‐Uh... - Interesting. 357 00:17:18,287 --> 00:17:20,163 This stuff is, is very interesting. 358 00:17:20,163 --> 00:17:21,373 It's all twisted and mangled up. 359 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:22,539 Something that you would expect 360 00:17:22,540 --> 00:17:25,542 to happen from a, uh, a‐a crash 361 00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:29,005 is to have metal that's‐that's compact and twisted. 362 00:17:29,006 --> 00:17:34,552 When Professor Kimbler laid out his box of his pieces of metal, 363 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:36,429 the first thing that struck me 364 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:40,724 is these were tiny, tiny, tiny fragments. 365 00:17:40,726 --> 00:17:45,438 Could they possibly be from wreckage? 366 00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:47,440 These pieces are small, uh, 367 00:17:47,441 --> 00:17:49,901 which is things that the government would have missed. 368 00:17:49,902 --> 00:17:51,569 ‐Uh, yeah. ‐They wouldn't have been able to find it. 369 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:53,572 And here's my magic. 370 00:17:53,573 --> 00:17:55,699 Let's get a comparison here. 371 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:58,242 Oh, look at that. ‐This... 372 00:17:58,243 --> 00:18:00,537 Look at‐‐ it's like a snowfield. 373 00:18:00,538 --> 00:18:02,204 After all these years, the‐‐ 374 00:18:02,205 --> 00:18:06,417 all of the pieces, they look absolutely pristine. 375 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:08,420 That's the magnesium zinc side. 376 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,547 This has got layers to it, and that's amazing. That's... 377 00:18:10,548 --> 00:18:13,717 ‐But I bet you've never seen anything like this. ‐No. 378 00:18:13,718 --> 00:18:16,720 Being an Earth scientist, being a geologist, 379 00:18:16,721 --> 00:18:19,597 I've seen lots of all kinds of materials that are out there. 380 00:18:19,598 --> 00:18:22,559 I have never, ever seen anything like this. 381 00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:25,894 This fragment that Linda is showing me, 382 00:18:25,895 --> 00:18:28,064 it‐‐ that stuff is absolutely amazing. 383 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:30,817 I've never seen anything like it before in my life. 384 00:18:30,817 --> 00:18:33,778 And what's interesting about it is that it has some layers, 385 00:18:33,778 --> 00:18:35,447 some banding on it. 386 00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:38,616 And that banding is very similar to some of the banding 387 00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:41,201 that I found in photomicrographs of the material 388 00:18:41,202 --> 00:18:43,078 that I have from out here. 389 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:46,499 I think, as Giorgio is holding this, 390 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:50,628 he's holding something made by another intelligence 391 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,838 from some place we don't understand. 392 00:18:52,839 --> 00:18:56,175 And this is truly extraterrestrial. 393 00:18:56,176 --> 00:19:00,638 Is it possible that Giorgio is holding an actual fragment 394 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,474 of an extraterrestrial craft? 395 00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:07,061 And if so, could even more incredible artifacts 396 00:19:07,063 --> 00:19:10,398 still remain in the desert outside Roswell? 397 00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:21,367 Ancient astronaut theorist Giorgio Tsoukalos 398 00:19:21,368 --> 00:19:24,328 and investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe 399 00:19:24,329 --> 00:19:26,998 are in an area outside Roswell, New Mexico 400 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:29,334 with geologist Frank Kimbler. 401 00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:32,503 I've got one of the, uh, the infrared pictures right here, 402 00:19:32,505 --> 00:19:35,382 that actually is, it's kind of contrast‐enhanced. 403 00:19:35,383 --> 00:19:37,925 As far as Professor Kimbler is concerned, 404 00:19:37,926 --> 00:19:40,427 if one or more extraterrestrial crafts 405 00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:42,430 really did crash in the desert, 406 00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:46,433 the best place to find more debris is right here. 407 00:19:46,434 --> 00:19:50,563 Right now we are roughly about maybe two, two and a half miles 408 00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:52,981 from where the object skipped down, 409 00:19:52,982 --> 00:19:56,403 according to eyewitness accounts. 410 00:19:56,403 --> 00:19:58,445 This is actually the disturbed area right here, 411 00:19:58,447 --> 00:19:59,948 which is right where we're going. 412 00:19:59,949 --> 00:20:02,701 And it's right where the eyewitness account 413 00:20:02,701 --> 00:20:04,743 basically says that the craft left a furrow. 414 00:20:04,744 --> 00:20:06,788 So you can tell that something went on. 415 00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:08,789 It even looks like there's a little a gouge mark 416 00:20:08,790 --> 00:20:11,000 that was left by the craft as it came in. 417 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,796 The disturbed area that Professor Kimbler identified 418 00:20:14,797 --> 00:20:17,423 has become known as the "gouge." 419 00:20:17,424 --> 00:20:22,679 In 2002, an archaeological dig was conducted in this area 420 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,515 by the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, 421 00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:30,561 to search for topographical evidence of a UFO crash. 422 00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:33,981 They found a V‐shaped gouge that seemed to indicate 423 00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:37,568 that something came down and skated across the ground, 424 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:40,947 like a typical aircraft crashing into the ground, 425 00:20:40,948 --> 00:20:42,574 leaving a‐a big furrow there. 426 00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:45,410 Author Donald Schmitt, an advisor 427 00:20:45,411 --> 00:20:48,913 to the International UFO Museum & Research Center 428 00:20:48,913 --> 00:20:52,250 board of directors, took part in the excavation. 429 00:20:52,250 --> 00:20:53,835 We flagged that area, 430 00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:59,173 did electromagnetic sensory testing of the sites 431 00:20:59,174 --> 00:21:03,470 to sift through possible samples from the crash. 432 00:21:03,471 --> 00:21:08,641 All in an attempt to find a piece of that missing evidence 433 00:21:08,642 --> 00:21:10,852 that would demonstrate once and for all 434 00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:13,938 that this was something extraordinary. 435 00:21:13,939 --> 00:21:16,941 The dig collected countless soil samples 436 00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:19,193 from in and around the gouge. 437 00:21:19,194 --> 00:21:22,654 But curiously, access to this wealth of potential evidence 438 00:21:22,655 --> 00:21:24,115 has been restricted 439 00:21:24,115 --> 00:21:27,117 by the Bureau of Land Management ever since. 440 00:21:27,118 --> 00:21:29,953 There's 600 pounds of stuff stored in a vault 441 00:21:29,954 --> 00:21:33,458 in the Maxwell Museum at the University of New Mexico 442 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:36,502 that nobody has looked at, and it needs to be looked at. 443 00:21:36,503 --> 00:21:38,630 Demands by UFO researchers 444 00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:40,214 to be given access 445 00:21:40,215 --> 00:21:42,383 to the contents of the 2002 dig 446 00:21:42,384 --> 00:21:44,719 have fallen on deaf ears. 447 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,930 In the nearly two decades since, 448 00:21:46,931 --> 00:21:49,932 the V‐shaped gouge has been filled in with sediment, 449 00:21:49,933 --> 00:21:51,476 but many believe 450 00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:54,061 that if there is more debris still to be found, 451 00:21:54,063 --> 00:21:56,981 it is most likely to be found here. 452 00:21:58,358 --> 00:22:00,317 We need to get going, and we need to get out there 453 00:22:00,318 --> 00:22:02,319 so you guys can experience 454 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,570 finding some of this stuff, 455 00:22:03,571 --> 00:22:04,739 - ‐which is amazing. - All right. 456 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:05,740 Let's go explore. 457 00:22:07,785 --> 00:22:10,118 So, where do you think's best here now? 458 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,079 We're in the perfect spot. 459 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,873 And we're gonna cover this whole thing right here. 460 00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:17,000 Uncovering bits of debris in this vast desert 461 00:22:17,001 --> 00:22:18,711 is a daunting task, 462 00:22:18,711 --> 00:22:23,173 but after nearly a decade spent combing the entire area, 463 00:22:23,174 --> 00:22:26,176 Professor Kimbler has pinpointed certain hot spots. 464 00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:29,430 Some of the artifacts he brought with him today 465 00:22:29,431 --> 00:22:31,182 were discovered in this very location 466 00:22:31,182 --> 00:22:32,933 just within the past month. 467 00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:35,603 So, just above the area of the ground, 468 00:22:35,604 --> 00:22:38,355 we're gonna sweep back and forth like this. 469 00:22:38,356 --> 00:22:40,107 We're gonna cover this 470 00:22:40,108 --> 00:22:41,692 side to side, 471 00:22:41,693 --> 00:22:43,694 back and forth, little by little. 472 00:22:43,695 --> 00:22:45,279 I've been out here 473 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,906 six or seven or eight hours at a whack swinging this thing 474 00:22:47,907 --> 00:22:49,241 till my arms break off. 475 00:22:49,242 --> 00:22:51,911 We can, uh, cut across this way. 476 00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:53,704 You're waiting for that beep. 477 00:22:53,705 --> 00:22:56,249 We're looking off in‐in this general direction out here. 478 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:58,125 The craft basically 479 00:22:58,126 --> 00:22:59,919 either had some kind of mechanical failure 480 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,546 or something blew up. 481 00:23:01,547 --> 00:23:04,673 Professor Kimbler scans the area along the gouge, 482 00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:07,468 meticulously covering every inch. 483 00:23:07,469 --> 00:23:09,887 After nearly two hours, 484 00:23:09,888 --> 00:23:12,598 he has not detected any metal objects. 485 00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:14,224 Giorgio, my arm is about to break off, 486 00:23:14,226 --> 00:23:16,435 and I'm kind of hoping that you just might have 487 00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:19,396 ‐a little bit better luck than me doing this. ‐Sure. Let's see. 488 00:23:19,397 --> 00:23:22,191 ‐You saw what I was doing, it's already fired up. ‐Yep. Okay. 489 00:23:22,192 --> 00:23:24,152 And I'm gonna let you swing this. And we can just... 490 00:23:24,153 --> 00:23:25,944 ‐Let's see if it's working. ‐ 491 00:23:25,945 --> 00:23:27,238 ‐There you go, it's working perfect. ‐Great. Perfect. Excellent. 492 00:23:27,239 --> 00:23:29,281 Maybe you'll be able to... 493 00:23:29,282 --> 00:23:32,242 ‐to get the magic flowing on this. ‐Mm‐hmm. 494 00:23:32,243 --> 00:23:34,913 I think we need to head up right over here because 495 00:23:34,913 --> 00:23:36,330 this is right at the base of the hill 496 00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:38,290 and there's a bunch of disturbed rocks. 497 00:23:38,291 --> 00:23:39,917 Might be a good place to, uh, 498 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,669 ‐to capture material that has run off. ‐Okay. 499 00:23:41,670 --> 00:23:43,880 ‐ ‐lt's also... ‐Oh! 500 00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:47,258 Within just a few minutes of taking over the metal detecting, 501 00:23:47,259 --> 00:23:48,593 Giorgio gets a hit. 502 00:23:48,594 --> 00:23:49,801 I heard something. 503 00:23:49,802 --> 00:23:50,802 Yeah. 504 00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:52,805 ‐ ‐There is something. 505 00:23:52,806 --> 00:23:54,807 Oh, my God. 506 00:23:57,685 --> 00:24:00,605 There is something there and we need to dig it up. 507 00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,440 ‐Let me help you find it. ‐Okay. 508 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,275 It's right here somewhere. 509 00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:05,692 ‐We'll find it. ‐lt's right here. 510 00:24:05,693 --> 00:24:08,153 ‐We will find it. ‐ 511 00:24:08,154 --> 00:24:09,446 You're on top of it. 512 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,115 ‐You're right there. ‐Right there. 513 00:24:14,494 --> 00:24:16,663 See if it's there. 514 00:24:16,663 --> 00:24:18,122 It's in my hand. 515 00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:19,164 Wow. 516 00:24:19,165 --> 00:24:21,416 Now comes the hard part. 517 00:24:21,417 --> 00:24:24,002 ‐lt's a‐a piece of wire. ‐ 518 00:24:24,003 --> 00:24:25,462 All right. Okay. 519 00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:28,007 ‐A tiny little piece of wire. ‐Little wire. 520 00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:30,300 We're gonna keep it. We're gonna take it and have it analyzed 521 00:24:30,301 --> 00:24:33,011 because maybe it's got something in it that's weird. 522 00:24:33,012 --> 00:24:34,763 Let's still investigate this. 523 00:24:34,765 --> 00:24:36,891 We need to take it and‐and have it tested. 524 00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:40,060 Giorgio hands off the metal detector to Linda, 525 00:24:40,061 --> 00:24:41,729 who continues along the gouge. 526 00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:44,816 Just a few feet from where Giorgio detected 527 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:46,817 ‐a piece of wire... ‐ ‐Oh. 528 00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:48,319 They get another hit. 529 00:24:52,657 --> 00:24:54,784 ‐All right. Oh. ‐Pick up your, uh, your bracelet, too. 530 00:24:54,785 --> 00:24:57,161 I tell you what, let's, um, dump it, 531 00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:59,413 dump it into this hand, right here. 532 00:24:59,414 --> 00:25:00,832 There we go. 533 00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:03,000 It's another piece of wire. 534 00:25:03,001 --> 00:25:04,669 This is strange‐looking, though. 535 00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:08,423 ‐Why is it so twisted and mangled? ‐I have no idea. 536 00:25:08,423 --> 00:25:11,592 You said that if there was debris, 537 00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:13,553 this would be one of the places 538 00:25:13,554 --> 00:25:15,887 because of the geographic, uh... 539 00:25:15,888 --> 00:25:17,472 ‐terrain right here. ‐lt's, it's runoff, 540 00:25:17,473 --> 00:25:20,977 and this is what I've used time and time again to find stuff. 541 00:25:20,978 --> 00:25:23,980 As far as Giorgio and Linda are concerned, 542 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:27,191 any metal objects found in the so‐called "gouge" area 543 00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,734 are worth examining. 544 00:25:28,736 --> 00:25:32,864 Is it possible that these bits of wire represent debris 545 00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:37,536 from the 1947 crash that was overlooked by the military? 546 00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:48,796 Sergeant Melvin E. Brown, who served in 547 00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:53,175 the 509th Atomic Bomb Squadron for the U. S. Army Air Force, 548 00:25:53,176 --> 00:25:56,679 lies on his deathbed at a local hospital. 549 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,141 With his dying words, Brown reveals to his family 550 00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:03,603 a secret that he has kept hidden for nearly 40 years‐‐ 551 00:26:03,604 --> 00:26:08,607 a secret about what he saw in 1947 552 00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:11,528 when he was stationed in Roswell, New Mexico. 553 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:17,159 Sergeant Melvin Brown is another key player in all of this. 554 00:26:18,576 --> 00:26:21,828 He was rounded up by higher command 555 00:26:21,829 --> 00:26:23,830 in the aftermath of the crash. 556 00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:26,584 He was essentially put on guard duty. 557 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:31,881 And, intriguingly, there were some low flatbed lorries 558 00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:33,884 with tarpaulins over them. 559 00:26:35,134 --> 00:26:37,345 The first opportunity he got, 560 00:26:37,346 --> 00:26:39,680 he peeked inside the back of the truck. 561 00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:42,182 And there, under a canvas tarp, 562 00:26:42,183 --> 00:26:44,769 were two of the bodies from the crash site. 563 00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:50,191 When he was on his deathbed, he brought up Roswell. 564 00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:53,318 Days before he passed away, he talked about, 565 00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:56,697 "It was not a weather balloon. It wasn't from here. 566 00:26:56,698 --> 00:27:02,494 And I saw two of the bodies, and they were not human." 567 00:27:02,496 --> 00:27:06,665 Deathbed testimony is a critical part of the Roswell story. 568 00:27:06,666 --> 00:27:08,166 There are several. 569 00:27:08,167 --> 00:27:09,544 There are many reasons 570 00:27:09,545 --> 00:27:12,587 why some of the witnesses stayed quiet for so long: 571 00:27:12,588 --> 00:27:14,882 fear, threats. 572 00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:16,634 All of this plays a part. 573 00:27:19,011 --> 00:27:21,721 Many UFO researchers believe that, 574 00:27:21,722 --> 00:27:23,849 much like these deathbed testimonies, 575 00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:27,519 it is only a matter of time before physical evidence 576 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,065 of a crashed extraterrestrial craft finally surfaces. 577 00:27:31,066 --> 00:27:33,401 And some even suggest 578 00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:36,904 that such evidence has already been recovered. 579 00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,242 Here it is, right here. 580 00:27:42,243 --> 00:27:45,829 One day after uncovering wires near the Roswell skip site, 581 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:49,165 Giorgio Tsoukalos and Linda Moulton Howe have traveled 582 00:27:49,166 --> 00:27:50,417 to Theta Plate Lab, 583 00:27:50,419 --> 00:27:52,795 where they are met by owner Aaron Velasquez. 584 00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:54,046 Hi. 585 00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,506 It's good to finally meet you. 586 00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:57,008 ‐Welcome. ‐Hello. 587 00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:59,301 Geologist Frank Kimbler arrived earlier with 588 00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:01,345 the metal fragments he has collected 589 00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:02,596 over the past eight years 590 00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:05,516 in and around the Roswell crash site. 591 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:08,269 Hey, Frank. Good to see you again. 592 00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:10,270 ‐lt's good to see you guys. We're‐we're good. ‐Good to see you again. 593 00:28:10,271 --> 00:28:12,105 ‐Ready for some testing? ‐We're ready for some testing. 594 00:28:12,106 --> 00:28:13,316 This is the exciting part. 595 00:28:13,317 --> 00:28:14,608 ‐Excellent. ‐I've been waiting for this. 596 00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:16,736 Professor Kimbler's fragments 597 00:28:16,737 --> 00:28:18,863 will be scientifically tested, 598 00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:22,240 along with the wires they found in the desert just yesterday 599 00:28:22,241 --> 00:28:25,536 to determine their elemental makeup. 600 00:28:25,537 --> 00:28:27,538 So, we're gonna use this machine. 601 00:28:27,538 --> 00:28:29,624 It's an X‐ray florescence machine. 602 00:28:29,625 --> 00:28:31,666 It can do materials identification, 603 00:28:31,667 --> 00:28:34,086 so we're gonna hit it with an X‐ray beam 604 00:28:34,086 --> 00:28:35,880 and it'll tell us what it can tell us. 605 00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:39,549 So, it has the ability to show us the elements that are 606 00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:42,302 in this within a certain range, is that right? 607 00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:43,721 Correct, correct. ‐Mm‐hmm. 608 00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,142 Okay, here we go. 609 00:28:48,602 --> 00:28:50,269 So, we're seeing a big peak here. 610 00:28:50,269 --> 00:28:52,563 This is iron. All right. 611 00:28:52,564 --> 00:28:54,690 What else seems like a match? 612 00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:56,901 Well... 613 00:28:56,902 --> 00:28:58,234 Selenium. 614 00:28:58,236 --> 00:28:59,612 What in the world? 615 00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:02,698 Yeah, that‐that is exactly my reaction. 616 00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,659 ‐Yeah. ‐What is selenium doing with that? 617 00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:08,746 I know that selenium is used in the electronics industry 618 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,122 for semiconductors. 619 00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:11,582 Let's go ahead and, uh, 620 00:29:11,583 --> 00:29:13,876 take a look at the second wire, please. 621 00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:20,090 ‐That there is... selenium. ‐This is selenium. 622 00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:22,134 - ‐Still? - Yeah. 623 00:29:22,134 --> 00:29:24,095 The makeup of the second wire fragment 624 00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:27,515 appears to be nearly identical to the first. 625 00:29:27,516 --> 00:29:31,102 Might the presence of selenium, a semiconductor, 626 00:29:31,103 --> 00:29:34,439 indicate that they were part of an electronic device? 627 00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:39,109 - This one. - Okay. 628 00:29:39,111 --> 00:29:42,363 Frank has also brought with him a number of metal pieces 629 00:29:42,364 --> 00:29:44,990 that he has gathered in the same area over the years, 630 00:29:44,991 --> 00:29:46,951 and has yet to test. 631 00:29:48,703 --> 00:29:52,163 So, it looks like it's a match for iron. 632 00:29:52,164 --> 00:29:54,291 But I'm curious about that little shoulder. 633 00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:57,545 Copper. 634 00:29:57,546 --> 00:29:58,712 Okay. ‐Copper... 635 00:29:58,713 --> 00:30:00,673 So, I mean, it's dead‐on copper match. 636 00:30:00,673 --> 00:30:03,009 So, we know we've got some copper in there. ‐Mm‐hmm. 637 00:30:03,009 --> 00:30:04,469 And then this stuff over here... 638 00:30:07,847 --> 00:30:09,765 I'd call it a good match for zirconium. 639 00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:10,807 For zirconium? 640 00:30:10,808 --> 00:30:13,352 ‐Wow. ‐Yeah. 641 00:30:13,353 --> 00:30:15,605 That would be unusual. 642 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:18,817 This is a good match for molybdenum. 643 00:30:20,402 --> 00:30:23,362 So, now we've got not only 644 00:30:23,363 --> 00:30:25,780 zirconium in there, but we have molybdenum. 645 00:30:25,781 --> 00:30:28,992 And those are considered impurities, Giorgio, 646 00:30:28,993 --> 00:30:30,744 but they shouldn't be there. 647 00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:34,205 But what does that mean when you say it shouldn't be there? 648 00:30:34,207 --> 00:30:37,209 Because that's unusual for any alloys 649 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:38,586 that I've looked at previously. 650 00:30:38,586 --> 00:30:41,047 It's part of our high‐tech industry. 651 00:30:41,048 --> 00:30:42,381 It's weird for me, too. 652 00:30:42,382 --> 00:30:43,923 So, you'd see molybdenum in a stainless steel, 653 00:30:43,924 --> 00:30:45,675 but not an iron copper alloy. 654 00:30:45,676 --> 00:30:46,969 - Yeah. - Yeah. 655 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:48,511 - I agree with that. - Okay. 656 00:30:48,512 --> 00:30:50,890 ‐I like it. ‐And zirconium has been found 657 00:30:50,891 --> 00:30:55,769 in some cases where material has been tested 658 00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:58,689 and it was somehow related to a crash. 659 00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:00,650 ‐I've run across that myself. ‐Zirconium. 660 00:31:02,193 --> 00:31:05,863 In 2009, a Freedom of Information Act request 661 00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:07,823 brought to light a research study 662 00:31:07,824 --> 00:31:12,702 conducted at Wright‐Patterson Air Force Base in 1949, 663 00:31:12,703 --> 00:31:16,582 the site in Ohio where the wreckage from Roswell was taken. 664 00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:19,125 According to released documents, 665 00:31:19,126 --> 00:31:21,420 metallurgists discovered zirconium 666 00:31:21,421 --> 00:31:23,881 while examining pieces of strange metal 667 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,009 recovered in the New Mexico desert. 668 00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:32,222 Is this a piece that you found where we were walking around? 669 00:31:32,223 --> 00:31:33,766 Absolutely. 670 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:35,809 In fact, if we could bring the picture back up, 671 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:37,478 there's an interesting little part on this 672 00:31:37,479 --> 00:31:39,771 because this is one that I talked about before 673 00:31:39,772 --> 00:31:41,731 that has explosive cratering on it 674 00:31:41,732 --> 00:31:43,483 because it went through an explosion, 675 00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:45,737 and I can show that and prove it on that piece. 676 00:31:47,154 --> 00:31:48,905 ‐So, do you need me to scan around? ‐Right... 677 00:31:48,906 --> 00:31:51,534 - ‐See that right there? - That pit? 678 00:31:51,535 --> 00:31:54,203 That pit right there is an explosive crater. 679 00:31:56,123 --> 00:31:57,580 Explosive cratering? 680 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,916 Could this curious feature indicate 681 00:31:59,917 --> 00:32:01,794 that the metal fragments Frank found, 682 00:32:01,795 --> 00:32:04,587 in separate locations near Roswell, 683 00:32:04,588 --> 00:32:07,383 came from exploded objects? 684 00:32:07,384 --> 00:32:11,096 Perhaps even one or more extraterrestrial crafts? 685 00:32:12,638 --> 00:32:15,932 As the team tests the rest of the metal fragments, 686 00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:18,059 they are surprised to discover 687 00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:21,689 that nearly all of them seem to have the same elemental makeup. 688 00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:24,150 There's definitely a similarity. 689 00:32:24,151 --> 00:32:26,609 I mean, it looks like it's the same material. 690 00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:28,362 It's just in different proportions. 691 00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:29,946 Boy. 692 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,615 So, it could be the same stuff. 693 00:32:32,616 --> 00:32:35,035 I think we have the proof. Yeah. 694 00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:37,538 We just need to get more testing done. 695 00:32:37,538 --> 00:32:40,207 I can't wait to learn what we'll find out next. 696 00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:42,542 The battery of tests 697 00:32:42,544 --> 00:32:44,545 being performed by the U. S. Army 698 00:32:44,546 --> 00:32:47,381 on Linda's layered metal fragments could take months 699 00:32:47,382 --> 00:32:48,840 or even years. 700 00:32:48,842 --> 00:32:51,301 In the meantime, 701 00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:53,721 the material collected from the Roswell skip site 702 00:32:53,721 --> 00:32:57,432 has been sent to another lab for further analysis. 703 00:32:57,433 --> 00:33:00,935 But curiously, one element 704 00:33:00,936 --> 00:33:03,939 that has already been detected in Professor Kimbler's materials 705 00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:07,483 has also been found in another metal fragment 706 00:33:07,484 --> 00:33:10,237 suspected to be debris from a UFO, 707 00:33:10,238 --> 00:33:14,409 and from a location on the other side of the world. 708 00:33:19,663 --> 00:33:22,208 The Roswell incident remains the most well‐known 709 00:33:22,209 --> 00:33:24,167 UFO event in history, 710 00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:27,503 but there have been reports of numerous other UFO crashes 711 00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:29,339 all over the world, 712 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,843 as well as the recovery of strange metal debris. 713 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:37,472 In 1991, geologists searching for gold deposits 714 00:33:37,473 --> 00:33:41,809 in Russia's Ural Mountains made a highly unexpected discovery. 715 00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:44,563 At depths of over 30 feet, 716 00:33:44,564 --> 00:33:48,902 they found a scattering of tiny metal coils and springs. 717 00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:56,200 Russian scientists are finding these tiny nanoparticles. 718 00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:57,951 They found thousands of these things. 719 00:33:57,952 --> 00:34:00,203 They have to look at them through microscopes. 720 00:34:00,204 --> 00:34:02,080 They're‐they're‐‐ Some of them are just 721 00:34:02,082 --> 00:34:05,917 one ten‐thousandth of an inch, you know, in size. 722 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,336 There are all kinds of spirals 723 00:34:08,338 --> 00:34:11,215 and tiny machined bits. 724 00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:14,802 When they look at it, they seem to be exactly like the kind of 725 00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:17,304 tiny nanoparticles and machine bits 726 00:34:17,304 --> 00:34:19,266 that we are creating today. 727 00:34:21,016 --> 00:34:24,894 What you see under the electron microscope is mind‐boggling 728 00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:27,731 because you see spirals. 729 00:34:27,731 --> 00:34:31,068 You see definitely something where the scientists 730 00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:34,905 who investigated this came to the conclusion 731 00:34:34,905 --> 00:34:38,617 that these items are artificially made 732 00:34:38,617 --> 00:34:40,619 out of tungsten and molybdenum. 733 00:34:40,619 --> 00:34:44,081 And so that right there is incredibly interesting 734 00:34:44,081 --> 00:34:48,293 because that was found exactly at the skip site. 735 00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:53,007 Molybdenum is the same material detected in the metal fragments 736 00:34:53,007 --> 00:34:56,427 that Frank Kimbler found in the desert outside Roswell. 737 00:34:56,427 --> 00:34:59,096 It is a super‐strong element 738 00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:01,974 commonly used in NASA spacecraft. 739 00:35:03,934 --> 00:35:06,103 These microscopic spirals 740 00:35:06,103 --> 00:35:09,773 were made of wolfram and molybdenum. 741 00:35:09,773 --> 00:35:13,193 The melting temperature for wolfram is above 742 00:35:13,193 --> 00:35:15,028 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit, 743 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:18,949 and for molybdenum is about 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit. 744 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:25,121 Some, uh, version of NASA from some other star system 745 00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:28,916 could send a probe here to Earth, and it could fail, uh, 746 00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:32,295 and crash into Earth, and‐and we would look at it and think, 747 00:35:32,297 --> 00:35:33,838 "Wow, where did this come from?" 748 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,800 Maybe one day, we might be creating our own Roswell 749 00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:40,304 when we send our first probe to the nearest star. 750 00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:43,641 Ancient astronaut theorists point out 751 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:47,061 that dozens of visitors to the Ural Mountains have reported 752 00:35:47,061 --> 00:35:50,313 encounters with strange, cigar‐shaped craft 753 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:52,733 trailing fire across the sky. 754 00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:56,820 Could this be the Russian Roswell? 755 00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:00,615 Indeed, people living in the Ural Mountains, 756 00:36:00,617 --> 00:36:03,494 maybe more often than, uh, 757 00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:06,204 people living in other parts of Russia, 758 00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:10,543 witness some strange phenomena in the air and on the ground. 759 00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:16,507 Ural Mountains are a very interesting space 760 00:36:16,507 --> 00:36:19,927 in the paranormal history of Russia. 761 00:36:19,927 --> 00:36:23,179 And I've studied a lot because there have always been 762 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:27,016 incredible UFO sightings in the Ural Mountains. 763 00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:29,894 There are stories of civilizations 764 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:32,523 that have disappeared or went under the ground. 765 00:36:32,523 --> 00:36:36,943 Uh, the so‐called, uh, dwarf people in the Ural Mountains. 766 00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:41,864 If the nanoparticles discovered in the Ural Mountains are debris 767 00:36:41,865 --> 00:36:43,701 from a crashed alien craft, 768 00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:47,246 they bring up another intriguing possibility, 769 00:36:47,246 --> 00:36:50,541 because based on how deep below the earth they were found, 770 00:36:50,541 --> 00:36:54,545 they could have been deposited there thousands of years ago. 771 00:36:54,545 --> 00:36:57,255 There's thinking that these things must be 772 00:36:57,257 --> 00:36:59,090 over 50,000 years old. 773 00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:02,594 So, is this also a debris field 774 00:37:02,594 --> 00:37:07,724 from a crashed extraterrestrial craft in the Ural Mountains? 775 00:37:07,726 --> 00:37:11,811 There could be crash sites all over the world 776 00:37:11,813 --> 00:37:14,690 that are hundreds of thousands of years old, 777 00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:17,193 right up to modern times. 778 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,572 Rumors abound that there are facilities 779 00:37:21,572 --> 00:37:23,907 located all over the world holding the remnants 780 00:37:23,907 --> 00:37:27,161 of crashed extraterrestrial craft, 781 00:37:27,161 --> 00:37:29,996 like in the remote hills of China, 782 00:37:29,998 --> 00:37:32,248 at Pine Gap in Australia, 783 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,918 and Rudloe Manor in England. 784 00:37:34,918 --> 00:37:41,090 Who knows if over the chronology of the history of planet Earth 785 00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:45,804 there were more craft, just like at Roswell, that crashed? 786 00:37:45,804 --> 00:37:49,766 Is it possible that Roswell is 787 00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:52,436 just one of many locations on planet Earth 788 00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:55,438 where debris from crashed extraterrestrial craft 789 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,065 can be found? 790 00:37:58,525 --> 00:38:02,612 Perhaps further testing that was conducted on the metal fragments 791 00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:05,157 unearthed near the Roswell skip site will reveal 792 00:38:05,157 --> 00:38:09,536 indisputable evidence of alien visitation. 793 00:38:15,876 --> 00:38:19,630 Giorgio Tsoukalos meets Linda Moulton Howe at her home 794 00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:21,923 two weeks after sending out the materials collected 795 00:38:21,925 --> 00:38:25,385 at the Roswell crash site to a laboratory in Dallas, Texas, 796 00:38:25,385 --> 00:38:26,969 for further testing. 797 00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:30,306 Aaron Velasquez, who performed the initial testing, 798 00:38:30,307 --> 00:38:33,811 has received and analyzed the data. 799 00:38:33,811 --> 00:38:36,355 ‐Hi, Aaron. ‐Good to see you again. How are you? 800 00:38:36,356 --> 00:38:38,231 Nice to see you guys. I've been well. 801 00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:40,900 We're sitting here on pins and needles. 802 00:38:40,902 --> 00:38:42,443 So, what can you show us? 803 00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:46,949 So, we found that, of the samples of Frank's material, 804 00:38:46,949 --> 00:38:49,701 three of them, while they look like the rest, 805 00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:52,829 have a very, very high concentration of carbon in them. 806 00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:55,541 Much more than the aluminum, despite what they look like. 807 00:38:55,541 --> 00:38:57,208 There's been some supposition 808 00:38:57,210 --> 00:39:00,336 that that could be from high heat. 809 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:02,088 So that was odd. 810 00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:04,298 But odder still is we had 811 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,677 one sample of the five which had 812 00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:09,471 indium, which is a very rare element. 813 00:39:09,472 --> 00:39:11,681 So it's not the sort of thing that you would get 814 00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:14,226 by accident, guaranteed. 815 00:39:14,226 --> 00:39:15,768 So are we talking about something 816 00:39:15,769 --> 00:39:17,019 that's really strange here? 817 00:39:17,021 --> 00:39:19,438 Yes. Yes. 818 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,900 Well, uh, what about those wires that we found? 819 00:39:22,902 --> 00:39:24,402 Yeah. 820 00:39:24,403 --> 00:39:25,695 So, that is also odd. 821 00:39:25,697 --> 00:39:28,574 So, the elements that we found with the wire 822 00:39:28,574 --> 00:39:31,702 were all explainable, except it, too, had indium in it. 823 00:39:31,702 --> 00:39:34,913 What about evidence of impact and heat? 824 00:39:34,914 --> 00:39:37,123 Yes, that's another thing that we noted. 825 00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:38,666 It was very obvious 826 00:39:38,668 --> 00:39:40,585 under the scanning electron microscope 827 00:39:40,586 --> 00:39:43,797 that these had been subjected to very, very high heat. 828 00:39:43,797 --> 00:39:44,965 They were melted. 829 00:39:44,965 --> 00:39:46,632 There was also some shearing apparent. 830 00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:50,469 So, these were, these were cut or sliced by... 831 00:39:50,471 --> 00:39:54,016 by some action as well over the years, or‐or at an impact. 832 00:39:55,976 --> 00:39:58,103 That's‐that's incredible. 833 00:39:58,103 --> 00:40:00,813 Yes, it's very interesting. 834 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:03,233 For Giorgio and Linda, 835 00:40:03,233 --> 00:40:06,903 the results are nothing less than astonishing. 836 00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:10,072 Multiple tests have now confirmed that the materials 837 00:40:10,074 --> 00:40:12,034 recovered at the Roswell skip site 838 00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:14,494 are of a highly unusual nature, 839 00:40:14,494 --> 00:40:18,625 and show evidence of having been subjected to an explosion. 840 00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:23,003 Might the strange layered material being examined 841 00:40:23,003 --> 00:40:27,048 by the U. S. Army prove to be even more extraordinary? 842 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:30,260 In the bismuth, magnesium, zinc, 843 00:40:30,260 --> 00:40:33,387 we're dealing with technologies that astound people 844 00:40:33,389 --> 00:40:37,141 who are in exotic metals because they couldn't make 845 00:40:37,143 --> 00:40:39,561 the bismuth, magnesium, zinc, 846 00:40:39,561 --> 00:40:43,731 and a physicist tells me this is the key. 847 00:40:43,733 --> 00:40:49,028 This is the crux of how this kind of technology 848 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:53,867 makes possible the unidentified flying objects 849 00:40:53,867 --> 00:40:56,954 move in such astounding ways. 850 00:40:56,954 --> 00:40:59,331 Whoa! 851 00:40:59,331 --> 00:41:02,333 And in this whole issue of finding 852 00:41:02,335 --> 00:41:06,922 more materials from UFOs, I'm still on the trail. 853 00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:13,971 Oftentimes, I'm told that to suggest that 854 00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:19,351 a UFO, an extraterrestrial craft, crashed at Roswell 855 00:41:19,351 --> 00:41:24,063 is nonsensical because extraterrestrials can fly 856 00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:27,985 across the galaxy, and then they crash on Earth? 857 00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:29,902 Well, yeah. You know why? 858 00:41:29,903 --> 00:41:32,824 'Cause it's technology, and technology fails. 859 00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:39,704 I think that there may be more material there to be found. 860 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,998 Is physical evidence 861 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,711 of an extraterrestrial presence on Earth right beneath our feet? 862 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:49,922 Could there be debris from crashed alien craft 863 00:41:49,923 --> 00:41:53,175 not only in the New Mexico desert 864 00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:55,554 but all across the world? 865 00:41:55,554 --> 00:41:59,016 Perhaps the materials that have already been recovered 866 00:41:59,016 --> 00:42:01,809 will soon provide the ultimate proof 867 00:42:01,811 --> 00:42:04,521 that we are not alone in the universe, 868 00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:08,693 or even on our own planet. 68395

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