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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,720 A fatal fall at a newlyweds home in Ireland. 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,920 A young woman's life cut short just six months 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,399 after getting married. 4 00:00:25,559 --> 00:00:28,600 She was a beautiful, caring person. 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,640 And what happened was absolutely shocking. 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,359 Was it simply a tragic accident? 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,640 They find Mary at the foot of the stairs. 8 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:38,479 She's covered with a heavy duvet 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,280 and she's bleeding from her nose and mouth. 10 00:00:41,439 --> 00:00:42,960 Or murder? 11 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:46,240 Within minutes of actually seeing Mary's body, 12 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:48,399 I knew there was something wrong here. 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,600 I said, "you may sharpen your pencil. 14 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:52,159 We have a murder investigation." 15 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,040 Mary Gough was born 16 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,680 on the 22nd of December, 1973, in Drogheda in County Louth. 17 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:32,000 She was born to a large Catholic family 18 00:01:32,159 --> 00:01:33,120 of five children. 19 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:36,439 Her parents were Marie and James, 20 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:39,680 and Mary was the only daughter of the family, 21 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,079 and she was described as laid back, independent, 22 00:01:43,239 --> 00:01:46,159 and really friendly, and the heart and soul of the family. 23 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:49,920 When Mary was growing up, 24 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:53,359 Pat Marry was a local police officer who would later get 25 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:55,000 to know Mary's family well. 26 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,319 Mary's family were all very close. 27 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Her father had died when she was very young, 28 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,120 and I guess the fact that she lost her dad brought 29 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,359 the family even closer. 30 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:13,319 She shone as a person who had a degree of love and compassion, 31 00:02:13,479 --> 00:02:15,759 was just a downright lovely person. 32 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,800 And her mother, Marie, would say 33 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,199 that she was her best friend. 34 00:02:22,199 --> 00:02:25,719 She went to the local secondary school, 35 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:28,960 and she had the aspirations of all young women of her age. 36 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,319 She wanted to meet someone, get married, have children, 37 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:34,439 raise a family, do the things that most normal people 38 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:36,120 would like to do. 39 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,919 In her late teens, Mary 40 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,919 met a man who she wanted to spend the rest of her 41 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,360 life with. 42 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,759 In the early 1990s, when Mary left school, 43 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,280 she got a job in a pub called the Huntsman, 44 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:50,680 and it was there that she met a man called Colin Whelan. 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,599 Colin was a guy from a similar area to Mary, 46 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:55,639 and he was slightly older than her. 47 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,960 She was 19 years old at the time, 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,800 and it became very apparent early on that the two of them 49 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,840 hit it off and they were quite close. 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,919 He was very amenable to Mary's friends, 51 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,960 and he was a good-looking guy. 52 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,280 He was over 6-foot. 53 00:03:11,439 --> 00:03:13,319 He was a good catch, let's say. 54 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:18,400 Colin was an impressive individual. 55 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,240 He went to Dundalk Institute of Technology, 56 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,159 and there he acquired a qualification 57 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:26,360 in computer science. 58 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:30,199 And after that, he acquired a job 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,759 in Irish Permanent Building Society 60 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,960 to do programming for them. 61 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:39,439 Mary's career at a law firm was also taking off 62 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:42,759 and the future looked bright for Colin and Mary. 63 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:45,840 But in the mid 1990s, their relationship 64 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,439 hit a sudden rough patch. 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,439 In 1995, Colin broke up for a period of time with Mary. 66 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:57,479 She was heartbroken and confided in her mother 67 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:00,199 and she really was devastated. 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,639 And Colin at that stage said he wanted to break it off. 69 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,840 He didn't want to see her again. 70 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:08,639 But as things progressed, they got back together again 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,800 and it appeared to everybody and Mary's family and 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,360 Colin's family that the relationship was 73 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,079 going in the right direction. 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,959 And he proposed in 1998 for them to get married. 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,160 to do it, Mary, and then we'll get you sorted. 76 00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:27,800 On the 9th of September in 2000, 77 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:29,600 Mary and Colin were married. 78 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,480 On the day, Mary was quite nervous, 79 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:34,800 but she was comforted by her older brother, 80 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:37,279 who walked her down the aisle. 81 00:04:37,439 --> 00:04:39,920 The newlyweds quickly settled into married life. 82 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:41,800 They moved into an area called Balbriggan. 83 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:43,480 It's 20 miles north of Dublin. 84 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:46,800 And there, they renovated a new house together. 85 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:48,759 Newlyweds Mary and Colin 86 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,920 had a lot to look forward to as they embarked on their new 87 00:04:52,079 --> 00:04:53,240 life together. 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,879 But just six months after their wedding, 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,680 at 12:16 AM on March 1, 2001, an emergency 90 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,600 call was made by Colin. 91 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,079 20 minutes later, the paramedics 92 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,600 and the fire brigade arrived. 93 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,680 They find Mary at the foot of the stairs. 94 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,680 She's covered with a heavy duvet 95 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,959 and she's bleeding from her nose and mouth. 96 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,240 Colin Whelan was stood over his wife's body in a daze. 97 00:05:56,399 --> 00:06:00,279 He was asking paramedics, "is Mary dead or alive?" 98 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:02,639 As first responders tended to Mary, 99 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,439 they asked Colin what had happened. 100 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:08,319 Colin claimed that Mary's sleeve 101 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,000 from her dressing gown must have 102 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,920 got caught on the banister, and that's what caused her to fall, 103 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:14,839 because there was a tear on the sleeve area. 104 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,759 The paramedics found Mary in cardiac arrest. 105 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,079 They began CPR on her in the ambulance 106 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,079 as they rushed her towards Beaumont Hospital in Dublin. 107 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:27,959 Colin followed the ambulance. 108 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,519 And after Mary's family were informed of her accident, 109 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,680 they rushed to the hospital to be with their daughter. 110 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:39,040 But when they arrived at the hospital, 111 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:42,120 they were told that the doctors could do nothing more 112 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,560 and Mary was pronounced dead. 113 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,040 As Colin and Mary's family processed 114 00:06:51,199 --> 00:06:55,480 the devastating news of 27-year-old Mary Gough's tragic 115 00:06:55,639 --> 00:07:00,439 fatal fall, the police, known in Ireland as the "Garda," 116 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,000 were notified of her passing. 117 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,120 At the time, Pat Marry was a Detective Sergeant 118 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,439 in nearby Balbriggan. 119 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,519 Following standard procedure for all 120 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,199 of a sudden deaths in Ireland, he 121 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,560 was instructed to investigate how Mary had died. 122 00:07:18,399 --> 00:07:19,839 At this stage, Colin Whelan 123 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,560 had made it known that it was only himself and 124 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,240 his wife that were in the house, 125 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:26,839 and she fell down the stairs. 126 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,279 Colin was then interviewed as a witness 127 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:32,360 to explain exactly what had happened. 128 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:36,079 Colin relayed to the Garda in a statement 129 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,920 that he was in, watching the TV. 130 00:07:39,079 --> 00:07:41,560 His wife had gone up to have a shower. 131 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,959 After a period of time, he heard thump, thump, thump. 132 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,199 And he opened the sitting room door and 133 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,879 there on the bottom of the stairs was Mary 134 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,600 and she was unresponsive. 135 00:07:53,639 --> 00:07:55,000 Colin's witness statement 136 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,279 suggested Mary's death was the result 137 00:07:57,439 --> 00:08:00,600 of a tragic accidental fall. 138 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:03,160 But after speaking to staff at the hospital where 139 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:06,040 Mary was pronounced dead, officers 140 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:08,839 had more questions for Colin. 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,439 At Beaumont Hospital, 142 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,279 Nurse Galvin went over to sympathize with Colin 143 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:16,519 and she noticed his shirt opened and 144 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,639 she could see scratch marks. 145 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,879 And Superintendent Thomas Gallagher, 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,040 a very experienced detective, spoke with Colin 147 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,959 and he was asked what were they. 148 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,759 And he tried to brush them away and he said, 149 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,160 "oh, when she flailed out of me, 150 00:08:31,319 --> 00:08:32,759 she must have scratched me." 151 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:34,399 But that's the first time he ever 152 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,679 said that, because that was never an issue on the 999 call 153 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,000 he had made. 154 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:41,480 He had told her that she wasn't breathing, 155 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:43,840 she was unresponsive. 156 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,759 But he changed his story when he saw the scratch marks. 157 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:51,200 As a result of the unusual marks on Colin, 158 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,200 a postmortem was ordered to verify Mary's cause of death 159 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,320 and their home was cordoned off. 160 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,679 Given what Nurse Galvin had seen 161 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,720 and what Tom Gallagher, the Superintendent, 162 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:05,240 had witnessed the scratches on him, 163 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:08,799 he thought it best that the house should be preserved 164 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,879 on the basis that if Colin Sweeney's story was not true, 165 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:15,600 at least they were able to have their house examined. 166 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,039 After Mary Gough's fatal fall down the stairs 167 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,480 at the home she shared with husband Colin Whelan, 168 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:29,200 police continued to investigate whether her death 169 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,639 was an accident as Colin had claimed. 170 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:35,039 As part of procedure, they carried out 171 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,919 a background check on Colin. 172 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,559 He was a normal guy. 173 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,960 A good job, well thought of in work. 174 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,120 And there was nothing in Colin's past that anyone should 175 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:49,960 be concerned about in his relationship with Mary 176 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,720 as far as her family were concerned and his family. 177 00:09:53,879 --> 00:09:55,120 They had a perfect marriage. 178 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:56,440 They were very happy together. 179 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,480 The day after Mary died, 180 00:10:00,639 --> 00:10:04,320 a state pathologist carried out the postmortem on Mary's body. 181 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:07,039 I'm Marie Cassidy, 182 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,759 and I was a forensic pathologist 183 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:12,879 on call when Mary Gough died. 184 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:15,399 I was brought in because if there was something 185 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,360 unusual about her death, the state pathology department 186 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:20,919 would be asked to investigate. 187 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,759 Usually in the first instance when I hear about a death, 188 00:10:23,919 --> 00:10:26,360 there's very little information available. 189 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:28,399 And I don't seek information because I 190 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,919 would rather go in and make up my own mind 191 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,200 about what I think happened. 192 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,759 Within minutes of actually seeing Mary's body, 193 00:10:36,919 --> 00:10:38,919 I knew there was something far wrong here. 194 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,039 This wasn't an accidental death. 195 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,639 This wasn't a death following a simple fall down the stairs. 196 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:47,360 I didn't see the normal bumps and scrapes 197 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:49,120 on the arms and the legs I would have 198 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:51,039 expected in the circumstances. 199 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,080 What I did notice was that Mary's face was discolored. 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,080 Normally, after death, the face is rather pale. 201 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,080 Mary's face was not pale. 202 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,600 Mary's face was a blue purple color. 203 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:04,120 When I looked at the neck, I could 204 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:08,480 see that there was a distinct line from the neck down. 205 00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:12,159 The skin was the pale color I would normally have expected. 206 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,200 Mid-deck upwards, there was this purple blue discoloration 207 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,799 of the skin, and that was immediately concerning. 208 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,000 She had small pinpoint hemorrhages. 209 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:23,960 We call these particular hemorrhages, 210 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,679 and I noticed them in and around the eyes. 211 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,240 I then proceeded to do a neck dissection. 212 00:11:29,399 --> 00:11:32,320 This is a very detailed examination, 213 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,399 and I examined the neck layer by layer. 214 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,600 And then I get to the skeleton of the neck. 215 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:40,879 And that's your Adam's apple, the larynx. 216 00:11:41,039 --> 00:11:44,000 But it was the bone above that, the hyoid bone 217 00:11:44,159 --> 00:11:45,360 I found was broken. 218 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,519 Injuries to the neck structures are not 219 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,600 common in accidental falls downstairs 220 00:11:52,759 --> 00:11:55,360 because you've got a tumbling motion, 221 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:59,480 and therefore the neck is what we call a protected area. 222 00:11:59,639 --> 00:12:00,960 It does happen. 223 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,799 But if you've only got a neck injury in isolation, 224 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,879 it doesn't quite make sense about this 225 00:12:06,039 --> 00:12:07,639 being a fall downstairs. 226 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:12,080 Once I found the damage to the hyoid bone 227 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,360 and taking that with the marker across the neck, discoloration 228 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:19,200 of the face, the small pinpoint hemorrhages in and 229 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,320 around the eyes, this then confirmed 230 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,120 my suspicion that Mary's neck had been compressed. 231 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:31,159 And at that stage, I was quite firm in that this was a case 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,120 of ligature strangulation. 233 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:35,000 And Mary had been murdered. 234 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,039 It was a shocking discovery 235 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,080 that dramatically changed the course of their investigation. 236 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:45,360 Marie Cassidy came into the office to me, 237 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:47,679 and she says "this girl was murdered. 238 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,120 It's not a tragic fall down the stairs." 239 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:52,519 And I was a little bit taken aback because I 240 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,039 wasn't expecting that. 241 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,679 And she said she's been asphyxiated by strangulation 242 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,240 by way of ligature. 243 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:01,720 I said to her, how sure are you about this. 244 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:04,080 And probably a bit cheeky of me asking like, because I 245 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,080 wasn't expecting that. 246 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,879 She says, I'm 110% sure. 247 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:12,440 Marie Cassidy was quite solid in her findings. 248 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,000 I got on to my superintendent and my very words to him were, 249 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:18,320 I said, "you may sharpen your pencil. 250 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,000 We have a murder investigation." 251 00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:25,720 Strangulation is actually a very personal method of murder. 252 00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:27,679 And that's because it often involves 253 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,120 looking someone directly in the face as you kill them. 254 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:32,799 And on top of that, it actually takes 255 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,960 quite a long time for someone to pass away from asphyxiation. 256 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,720 Most commonly then you see asphyxiation murders 257 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:44,519 in relation to either anger and rage-based murders, 258 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,679 or sexually-motivated murders. 259 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:48,919 The Gough family had to be 260 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,639 told that it was a murder. 261 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:53,440 We could see that there were a very close family 262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,840 and that they were very, very close to Colin Whelan and 263 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,960 his family. 264 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,279 The next day, Mary's brother came down to the station 265 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,720 with his partner and we told him, look, 266 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:05,919 we're treating this as a murder. 267 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,519 Mary was murdered. 268 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,679 She was strangled, and it's now a murder investigation. 269 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,440 Colin was the only person in the house 270 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,960 at the time with Mary, so it leaves a finger of suspicion 271 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,279 on Colin. 272 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,679 They could not believe what we were saying. 273 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,519 We asked them not to engage with Colin Whelan, 274 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:24,080 and not to do anything foolish. 275 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,559 Until Colin was made a suspect in Mary's death, 276 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,279 her family had seen nothing to suggest 277 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,720 that he was capable of committing such a horrific act. 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,240 From an outsider's perspective, looking 279 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,559 at Colin and Mary's relationship, 280 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,080 there might not be any immediate red flags or 281 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,120 concerns about his behavior or the state 282 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:49,240 of their relationship, or his likelihood to go 283 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:51,519 on to harm her, to kill her. 284 00:14:51,679 --> 00:14:53,639 But that doesn't mean that there's not stuff 285 00:14:53,799 --> 00:14:55,559 going on behind the scenes. 286 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,480 There might still have been escalations of behavior 287 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:01,200 that the general public are just not aware of. 288 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:04,960 Following the pathologist's findings, 289 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,039 investigators asked Colin about his movements 290 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,360 on the day of Mary's death. 291 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:13,200 He told them that it was a normal working day, 292 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,879 except that he went to a luxury department store around midday. 293 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:21,080 Colin, during lunch hour at work, 294 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,080 had purchased a bronze ornament for his wife Mary, and 295 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,600 the lady who served him remembered him 296 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:30,799 because of him saying he loved his wife 297 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,559 and he wanted to surprise her and all that, you know. 298 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,519 And she thought that was very nice. 299 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:38,360 Colin was also asked about his whereabouts 300 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:39,799 after work. 301 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,559 He said, "look, I came home from work." 302 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,320 He changed and went out again to go to the gym. 303 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,759 He was there for an hour, returned home again. 304 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:47,799 Himself and Mary were there. 305 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,919 They had some dinner. 306 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:53,039 Officers confirmed Colin's claims by checking 307 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,360 his home security alarm logs. 308 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,639 And with a clean criminal record, 309 00:15:57,799 --> 00:16:00,440 there was nothing to suggest any suspicious behavior 310 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,320 by Colin in the lead up to Mary's death. 311 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,320 Someone escalating from having 312 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,039 no criminal behavior in their past, suddenly all the way 313 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,000 up to murder can happen. 314 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:14,840 It really depends on the motive behind the murder. 315 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,799 Often, though, what you see in cases of domestic homicide 316 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,759 like this appears to be is there 317 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:22,960 is normally a pattern of escalation of behaviors 318 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,360 before the moment of murder. 319 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:26,799 But that doesn't necessarily mean 320 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,879 that anyone's been apprehended or 321 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:30,840 any criminal charges have been brought 322 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,120 for those prior behaviors. 323 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:36,480 And a lot of the time, things that we see as red flags or 324 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:40,000 issues or concerns from someone are 325 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:41,919 a lot easier to see in retrospect 326 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,320 than they are in the moment. 327 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Within days of Mary's death, 328 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:49,480 her funeral service took place. 329 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,399 All the Gardas that were involved in the investigation 330 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:57,480 attended to show their support for the family, 331 00:16:57,639 --> 00:17:02,440 and also to see the reaction of Colin Whelan and his family. 332 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,759 Colin was acting as a cold individual. 333 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,799 He was a big man. 334 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,119 He was 6-foot 5". 335 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:09,559 He was a well-built man, but he was cold. 336 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,960 He had no emotion in his face. 337 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,680 He had no tears in his eyes. 338 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:14,400 He didn't put his hands up to his face. 339 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:19,200 He didn't show any emotion that he was going to bury his wife. 340 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,240 None whatsoever. 341 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,240 Colin appearing very emotionally 342 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,240 withdrawn at the funeral isn't inherently a red flag. 343 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Everyone responds to trauma and loss and grief 344 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,440 in very different ways. 345 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:34,759 Some people withdraw into themselves, and 346 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,279 so whilst it might not look how everyone would expect someone 347 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,119 to present at a funeral. 348 00:17:41,279 --> 00:17:43,720 It doesn't necessarily indicate anything 349 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,079 sinister in and of itself. 350 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,480 The investigation into Colin Whelan was well underway, 351 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,440 but the police at this point were yet to establish a motive. 352 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:58,359 Every murder has a motive, and 353 00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:00,039 you have to find that motive. 354 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,920 Because if you find the motive, it will lead you to the killer. 355 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:06,079 Was Colin having an affair? 356 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,079 Was he trying to get rid of his wife? 357 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,279 Was there financial difficulties? 358 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,279 That's what we needed to determine. 359 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,759 Investigators decided to search for clues 360 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,599 on Colin's computers. 361 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,640 It was decided that it 362 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:25,640 would be prudent to seize his computers and view them, 363 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:30,640 to see if there was anything on it of evidential value. 364 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,079 His own personal computer we took from his house. 365 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,240 There was nothing on it. 366 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,640 It appeared to have been wiped, and 367 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:37,440 there was nothing of evidential value 368 00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:39,319 accruing from that computer. 369 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,279 But when investigators turned to Colin's work computers, 370 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,400 they found he didn't realize that his searches had been 371 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:50,240 saved to an external server. 372 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,759 They had what they called a double proxy server. 373 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,960 I never heard of that before. 374 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,359 I didn't even know what it was. 375 00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:57,559 And they said, we have a server that 376 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,640 captures absolutely everything that any of our employees 377 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:02,480 do on a daily basis. 378 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,720 So I said, "you're telling me anything that he looked 379 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,319 up or done would be saved?" 380 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:07,319 "Yes." 381 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,880 So I said, "happy days." 382 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,599 But getting to Colin's specific computer 383 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:16,960 activity meant finding a way to navigate through months of data 384 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,200 covering 60 other employees. 385 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,920 They decided that they would devise a program and key it 386 00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:26,200 into the logs and look for key words 387 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,960 like murder or strangulation or that type of thing. 388 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,319 And that's exactly what they did. 389 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,720 What the police found was chilling. 390 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,319 Colin Whelan had been searching terms like asphyxiation, 391 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,240 how to block a windpipe, and how long does 392 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,000 it take to die from choking. 393 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,519 What was sickening to me 394 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,680 is that he was looking up asphyxiation and strangulation 395 00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:53,200 before he got married. 396 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,119 So he had this intention, obviously, 397 00:19:55,279 --> 00:19:56,759 before he got married and played 398 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,799 out the six months of marriage like the perfect husband 399 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,720 and then killed her. 400 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:05,200 It brought it home to me. 401 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,799 There was no doubt in my mind at that stage 402 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,160 that Colin Whelan had strangled his wife, 403 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:12,519 and he was the murderer, and that he 404 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,440 had researched how to do it and to make it look like a fall 405 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:16,759 down the stairs. 406 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,279 It was shocking, really. 407 00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:23,519 In premeditated murders, it is fairly common for someone 408 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,160 to do research before committing the act, 409 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:28,799 especially if they are planning to try and get away 410 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,880 with it because they're often looking 411 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:34,039 at different potential murder methods, different ways 412 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,920 to maybe stage a scene or to make it look like an accident. 413 00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:39,680 And all of that's very intentional 414 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:42,400 for them trying to be organized, 415 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:44,759 trying to get away with it. 416 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,599 Police also discovered 417 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:50,359 that Colin took an unhealthy interest in serial killers. 418 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,480 What was hugely relevant was his research 419 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,480 into Henry Louis Wallace, because the nine women he 420 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,480 killed and eventually was caught for, 421 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,279 he had strangled them but never left a ligature mark. 422 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Copycat murders are relatively rare, 423 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,160 but they are well-documented in criminology. 424 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:11,960 They are understood as a phenomenon. 425 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,960 What you often see in copycat killers 426 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,960 is that they are replicating the behavior of that offender, 427 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,119 perhaps because they share an ideology with them, 428 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:22,920 or perhaps actually because they 429 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:26,160 have a sense of grandiosity and they think they can 430 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:28,279 do the same act, but better. 431 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,039 So you have to wonder, in the case of Colin, 432 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,400 whether he looked at this case, he saw the method by which 433 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:37,920 these murders had occurred, and he 434 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:39,599 tried to replicate them thinking 435 00:21:39,759 --> 00:21:41,759 that he could do it better. 436 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,880 Our access to his computer spelt out to us this 437 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:50,039 cold-blooded and methodical individual 438 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,759 who used the internet to follow his plan. 439 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:56,839 But we still had not established 440 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,279 at that stage what the motive was for killing his wife. 441 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,079 After investigators established 442 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,720 that Mary Gough died from ligature strangulation, 443 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,839 her husband Colin, who had claimed she fell down 444 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,559 the stairs, became the prime suspect as detectives 445 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,480 continued to search for a motive. 446 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,480 Colin has said it was only him 447 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,319 and her in the house at the time, 448 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,839 and Colin had given up his keys to the house. 449 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,599 So we searched his house. 450 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:34,400 As a forensic team scoured 451 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:37,319 Colin and Mary's marital home for clues, 452 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,480 they came across vital evidence in the couple's bedroom. 453 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,880 The blood staining on the wall 454 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:47,759 between the en suite and the main door 455 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,519 was extremely evident. 456 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,359 When you're being strangled, blood 457 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:53,720 vessels break in your nose and they 458 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,279 emit blood in a mist format. 459 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,920 And they found that pattern on the wallpaper. 460 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,759 So they knew something had happened in the bedroom 461 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,279 and it was violent. 462 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Their discovery contradicted Colin's claim 463 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,400 that Mary had died after falling 464 00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:11,799 down the stairs on her own. 465 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,880 This is a case of primary scene staging. 466 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:17,480 So this is where someone has staged the crime scene 467 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,440 specifically with the intention of misleading the police 468 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,240 investigation, because Colin has tried to set this 469 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,960 up to look like an accident. 470 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,359 But now the evidence is showing that actually 471 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:28,960 there was some sort of confrontation 472 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,440 at the top of the stairs. 473 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:32,960 The blood spatter analysis is not aligning 474 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,880 with Colin's tale of events. 475 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,079 Investigators also discovered 476 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,519 a vital clue in the duvet Mary was wrapped 477 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,880 in when emergency services first arrived on the scene 478 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:46,400 following Colin's call. 479 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,559 Wrapped up in the duvet was a yellow towel 480 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,759 and the yellow towel had blood staining on it, which 481 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,720 turned out to be Mary's blood. 482 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,640 And it was a light bulb moment because it 483 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:02,240 sparked a thought of me about Henry Louis Wallace. 484 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,680 And at every scene of his murders, 485 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:06,920 there was a towel involved. 486 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:09,559 And the fact that he had looked up and researched him, 487 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,559 I believe this towel was involved in some way 488 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,200 in the murder of Mary Gough. 489 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,079 Marie Cassidy, the state pathologist who had first 490 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,039 found evidence of ligature strangulation, 491 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,880 also revisited the scene to look for more clues. 492 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:28,559 Where's the ligature? 493 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,039 What had been tied around Mary's neck? 494 00:24:32,519 --> 00:24:34,519 When I went up the stairs, we had a look around, 495 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,599 and in the bedroom there was nothing very much lying about. 496 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:42,000 But there was a dressing gown hanging behind the door. 497 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,720 The belt was in place. 498 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,079 It was through the loops, but it 499 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,720 looked as if it had been stretched or something, 500 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,559 and there was some staining on it. 501 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,160 And I immediately brought it to their attention. 502 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:56,119 And I said, well, that could have been used to strangle her. 503 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:58,160 The belt was sent to the forensic science 504 00:24:58,319 --> 00:24:59,720 laboratory for testing. 505 00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:07,039 They found Mary's blood on the belt. 506 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,319 Given that the ligature was found in the bedroom 507 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,680 and Mary was found at the bottom of the stairs, 508 00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:18,960 I wondered whether or not she had been strangled upstairs 509 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,000 and then manhandled downstairs. 510 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,680 She'd been literally dragged down 511 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,680 to the bottom of the stairs and then left in a heap. 512 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:28,000 It was further evidence 513 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,039 that Mary had been murdered, most likely 514 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,319 by her husband, Colin Whelan. 515 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,599 Friends and family were in shock 516 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,599 that Colin was in the frame for Mary's murder, 517 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,519 but Mary's mom Marie said that, on reflection, 518 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,680 there had been a change in her behavior 519 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:47,119 in the lead up to this. 520 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:49,200 And looking back as well, Mary's family 521 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,519 said that on her wedding day she just didn't look happy. 522 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,559 Her mother said to me that she just felt 523 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,880 there was something not right. 524 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:58,920 There was something amiss at the wedding. 525 00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:00,640 She just couldn't put her finger on it, 526 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:04,160 but Mary wasn't happy and things weren't right. 527 00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:06,640 When the couple came back from their honeymoon, 528 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:09,599 her mom noticed that Mary was just different. 529 00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:11,319 She stopped getting her nails done 530 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,160 and wearing certain clothes because she said 531 00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:15,119 that Colin didn't like it. 532 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:17,160 Her mother says she didn't wear her perfume that 533 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,640 she loved, and she said, "oh, Colin doesn't like that perfume 534 00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:21,319 and I don't wear it anymore." 535 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,119 Mary also stopped even inviting her mom around. 536 00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:27,279 And before this, Marie had practically lived in the house. 537 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,880 She had her own bedroom there. 538 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:30,519 Yet something changed. 539 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,559 And the week before she died, Mary's mom said that she 540 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,400 was calling her every night. 541 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:38,720 It's as if she wanted to tell her something. 542 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,799 All of this strikes as someone 543 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240 who's potentially in a coercive, 544 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,279 controlling relationship because now they're married. 545 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,799 Now he has an element of not only legal but sort 546 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,319 of moral control over her. 547 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Manipulators and controlling individuals in relationships 548 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,640 do this on purpose. 549 00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:02,279 They do this to isolate their victim, 550 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,480 and that way they have more control, 551 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,079 more say, over their life. 552 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,160 And so for someone who is seeking that level of ownership 553 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,440 over another human being, these are 554 00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:15,920 very methodical steps that occur 555 00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:18,680 with that exact intention. 556 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,839 Investigators still wanted to establish a motive, 557 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,640 so they turned their attention back 558 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:25,839 to Colin's digital footprint. 559 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,519 Further searches of Collins computer revealed that he had 560 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,599 actually set up a website and was managing this website 561 00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,920 called extramaritalaffairs.com and he was 562 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:41,079 portraying himself as single and actively 563 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,119 looking for a relationship. 564 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:45,039 Police then found through this search 565 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,640 that Colin had met a woman in Wales, 566 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,000 and they were having an online affair. 567 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,039 Through communication, through emails, 568 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,680 they had sent a total of something 569 00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,599 like 123 greeting cards between each other. 570 00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:02,640 She had nicknamed him "Fuzzy Bear," and he nicknamed 571 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:04,759 her the "Little Welsh Rabbit." 572 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,400 She was wanting to come over and meet him 573 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,559 because she had fallen in love with him 574 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,319 and was in love with him as a result of this cyber affair. 575 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,880 Colin going to the extent 576 00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:17,359 to set up a whole website just to enable 577 00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:19,960 an extramarital online affair really 578 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,160 goes to show the level of secrecy that he's hiding. 579 00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:27,039 The ability that he clearly has to be 580 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,000 able to manipulate those in his life 581 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,279 because he's presenting as this loving, 582 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,799 doting husband externally. 583 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,000 But the reality of his behavior is so far removed from that. 584 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,799 And I think this is him actually 585 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,200 just testing the limits of what he can get away with. 586 00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,200 With the assistance of local police, 587 00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:52,039 detectives decided to visit his online girlfriend in Wales. 588 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640 The Welsh policeman said, "I have Irish police here. 589 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,920 They want to speak to you and they want to talk to you about 590 00:28:57,079 --> 00:28:58,279 a guy called Colin Whelan." 591 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,759 "Oh, Colin. 592 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,079 Yeah, I haven't heard about him in a couple of days. 593 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,680 I wonder, is he all right?" 594 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:04,319 We said, "he's fine. 595 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,640 His wife died." "Oh, I know that. 596 00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,200 His wife died. 597 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:10,039 He told me she was killed in a car accident in 1997." 598 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,279 And I says, "no. 599 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,319 His wife died a week ago. 600 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400 And Colin is the suspect for murdering her." 601 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,960 And with that, she just collapsed on the ground 602 00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:23,079 like, you know. 603 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,240 Continuing their search for digital evidence, 604 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,160 detectives found another potential motive 605 00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:33,000 for Colin to have killed Mary. 606 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,000 An insurance policy document was found, and it showed that, 607 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,960 initially, he had taken out a policy on himself and 608 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,200 Mary on the 15th of March, 2000, for the value 609 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:47,839 of 200,000 pounds. 610 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,400 But two months after that, he upped the policy 611 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:56,039 to 400,000 pounds, which was in excess of anything 612 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,880 that was reasonable. 613 00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:00,799 The insurance policy were taken out at a time 614 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,480 after they had been engaged and before they got married. 615 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,359 And when you look at his internet history, 616 00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:09,839 going back before they married, where he was looking up 617 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,200 asphyxiation and strangulation, he obviously had it in his mind 618 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:16,279 at that stage he was going to kill her 619 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,839 and he was going to cash in. 620 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,279 Also, the internet history showed 621 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,920 he was looking at expensive cars, holidays abroad. 622 00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:28,519 He was looking at the high life if he got this money. 623 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,599 So there is no doubt in our mind 624 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,960 he wanted to kill his wife for that money. 625 00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:38,440 It was definitely the big jigsaw piece that fitted in. 626 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,200 And to say, well, look, this is the motive. 627 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:43,200 It was financial greed. 628 00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:44,440 We had him bang to rights. 629 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:45,559 We were quite happy. 630 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,960 We had a very, very strong case. 631 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,920 On April 10, 2001, police drove to Colin's house. 632 00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:55,920 In the presence of his father, 633 00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:58,759 I arrested him on the suspicion of the murder 634 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,359 of his wife, Mary. 635 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:01,880 Colin Whelan was taken 636 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:05,039 to Balbriggan Police Station, where the next day 637 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,839 he was questioned about the murder of his wife. 638 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,680 Colin didn't say anything. 639 00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:12,279 He kept his mouth shut. 640 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Now we asked him, "well, can you explain how she ended 641 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:16,559 up being strangled to death?" 642 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,880 And he said, "I can't." 643 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:20,680 We asked him, "were you ashamed that 644 00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:21,759 you have killed your wife?" 645 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Like, "have you anything to say?" 646 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:24,519 And he broke down and he cried. 647 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,160 But he said, "no comment." 648 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:27,400 He was psychopathic. 649 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:28,799 That's the way I would look at it. 650 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,799 He believed he was smarter and better than us, 651 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,279 but we were putting questions to him that were hard-hitting. 652 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000 If he sat there and said nothing, we couldn't care less. 653 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,319 We had the ace card at that stage. 654 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,440 Despite Colin invoking his right not 655 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:47,079 to comment, on April 11, 2001, police officially 656 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,440 charged Colin Whelan with the murder of his wife, 657 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:55,920 but he would have to wait over two years to appear in court. 658 00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,079 A trial date was set for October 13, 2003. 659 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,799 In Ireland, it's common to grant 660 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,119 bail when there can be long delays, sometimes up 661 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,200 to two years, for murder trials, 662 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,519 provided the accused isn't a flight risk 663 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,279 and won't interfere with the prosecution. 664 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,640 Colin Whelan had strict bail conditions. 665 00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:17,319 He had to sign in every day at Balbriggan Garda Station. 666 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,920 He had to live with his family and 667 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:22,720 his family had to pay a significant bail bond. 668 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,799 For two years, Colin Whelan 669 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,400 abided by his strict bail conditions, 670 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,799 but seven months before he was due to stand trial, 671 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,960 everything changed. 672 00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,599 In March 2003, his family came to the station 673 00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:38,400 to report Colin missing. 674 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,039 So we had to establish where is he. 675 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,359 The family feared the worst and his car was missing. 676 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:50,039 And we had to establish where his car was 677 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,720 and we had to look for him. 678 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,680 Colin's disappearance sparked a nationwide manhunt, 679 00:32:55,839 --> 00:33:00,160 and on March 12, 2003, police had a breakthrough 680 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:01,799 on the east coast of Ireland. 681 00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:07,720 The police in Howth had been patrolling Howth Head, which 682 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,160 is a known area for people who commit suicide, 683 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:14,559 and they observed a car there with keys in it. 684 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,039 And they thought it very suspicious 685 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,519 and they contacted us and I went 686 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,960 up immediately to Howth Head. 687 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:24,240 I looked at the car and the window was 688 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,880 down on the passenger side. 689 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:29,599 You could clearly see an empty bottle of gin. 690 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:31,960 With no idea where Colin was, 691 00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,319 police turned to his cell phone activity to look for clues. 692 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,000 His last phone call, we could establish, 693 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,880 was to the Samaritans, which would be consistent 694 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,799 with someone, maybe in a mental state of disorder, 695 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,799 that they would go and throw themselves over the cliffs. 696 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,400 With evidence that Colin 697 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:55,759 might have ended his life at the well-known suicide spot, 698 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,279 detectives triggered a search for his body. 699 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:01,960 We had a land and sea search carried out 700 00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:06,200 by the Irish Coast Guard to see if his remains were 701 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,400 on the cliffs or in the sea. 702 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,400 Those searches were negative. 703 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,400 Detectives soon suspected 704 00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:17,320 that Colin had staged the scene to suggest 705 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,239 that he was upset, drunk, and had taken his own life. 706 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,599 I said to myself, "this is typical 707 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,719 Colin Whelan controlling." 708 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,199 He's no more throwing himself off the cliff 709 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,840 than the man in the moon. 710 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,639 And wherever he is, I don't know but I'm going to find him. 711 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,719 I think that this scene staging really 712 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,039 goes to actually show Colin's narcissistic tendencies, 713 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,840 because this is someone who thinks that he's 714 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,199 so intelligent, he can outsmart the law, 715 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,159 he can think of every preconceived idea and question 716 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,559 and answer them by setting up this scene. 717 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,400 But actually, what he's not accounted 718 00:34:56,559 --> 00:35:00,519 for is that the perfect nature of the scene 719 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,320 actually raises questions in itself. 720 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,199 With Colin Whelan now a fugitive on the run, 721 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,800 Irish detectives launched an international manhunt. 722 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,000 When someone like this has vanished, 723 00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:16,599 you have to engage Interpol and Europol 724 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,880 to circulate the details of Colin Whelan 725 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:21,880 and what he's wanted for. 726 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:26,119 And you have to step back and let that take its course. 727 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,360 It may take a short time, it may take a very long time, 728 00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:32,760 but you can do no more than that. 729 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,880 One year on, Colin Whelan 730 00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,320 continued to evade justice. 731 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,559 But in July 2004, around 16 months after he disappeared, 732 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,400 investigators received a tip off. 733 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,559 This was an unusual turn of events. 734 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,239 Colin had been spotted over 1,000 miles away 735 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,480 in the glamorous vacation town of Portals Nous on the Spanish 736 00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:57,760 island of Mallorca. 737 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,400 He was working in a bar. 738 00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:03,320 The bar that he was working in was 739 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,239 for customers who had bought yachts of 1+ million pounds. 740 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,800 So there wasn't going to be too many people 741 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,280 from Balbriggan down wandering around there 742 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,639 parking their yacht like so. 743 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,119 He felt relatively safe working there. 744 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,519 But Colin's identity was not as well protected 745 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:23,760 as he thought it was. 746 00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,039 A lady, a holidaymaker just 747 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,960 happened to walk into the bar, and 748 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:34,119 she engaged with Colin Whelan while she was in the pub 749 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,400 and he told her his name was Cian Sweeney. 750 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,320 And he gave her his name and wrote it down, 751 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,800 signed it on the back of a business card for the pub 752 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,480 and said you'll get me here. 753 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:50,199 When she returns to Ireland, the Gough family 754 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,280 put in the papers the story about Colin Whelan 755 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,840 that he's missing for so long, had anybody seen him. 756 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,639 And a picture of him. 757 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,880 And she saw it, and she says, "Jesus, 758 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:01,719 that's Cian Sweeney, that's the guy I was talking to. 759 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,920 That's him." 760 00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:05,599 And she contacted the station and he 761 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,159 was put in contact with her. 762 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,639 She says that's the card he gave me, and he signed it. 763 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,679 I took a statement off her. 764 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,039 I went back and compared it with Colin Whelan's signature 765 00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:18,119 on the statement he made and the writing to me, 766 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,159 and anyone who looked it, was the same. 767 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,440 So I said, this is our man and we needed to get him. 768 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:31,119 16 months after Colin Whelan went on the run 769 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,159 from Irish police wanted for the murder 770 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,400 of his wife Mary Gough, after first claiming 771 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,519 that she had a fatal fall down the stairs, 772 00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:42,800 he had finally been located. 773 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,519 And Spanish police were poised to arrest him on behalf 774 00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:48,360 of the Irish authorities. 775 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,280 On July the 10th in 2004, at 10:30 PM, 776 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,400 the Spanish civil guard raided the bar 777 00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:57,079 where Colin was working. 778 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,719 He was arrested on the warrant 779 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,360 and he said, "you have the wrong guy. 780 00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:01,519 My name is Cian Sweeney. 781 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:03,119 You have the wrong guy." 782 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,880 And they took him into custody and took his fingerprints. 783 00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:07,800 And they said, "no, you're Colin Whelan, 784 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,159 your fingerprints match." 785 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,000 And he just put his hands up and he says, 786 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,880 "right, I'm Colin Whelan." 787 00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,400 News of Colin's high-profile arrest 788 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,519 spread quickly to Mary's family back home in Ireland. 789 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,599 When Mary's family were told, they 790 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,599 were shocked but so relieved. 791 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,039 They broke down in tears on the phone. 792 00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,440 Colin Whelan was finally being brought 793 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:33,880 back from Spain to face justice for what he did to Mary. 794 00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,559 Detective Pat Marry traveled to Spain to bring 795 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,679 Colin Whelan back to Ireland. 796 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,280 I flew out to Madrid to bring him back. 797 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,800 I went down to the cell area and 798 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,800 about halfway down I looked into the right 799 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,320 and there was Colin, standing there on his own, 800 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,360 and he had grown a beard at this stage. 801 00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,519 Now, I looked at him and he looked at me. 802 00:38:56,679 --> 00:38:59,960 Our glances together spelled it out. 803 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,480 He knew he was caught and I knew I caught him. 804 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:04,679 He was handcuffed and put on the plane and I 805 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,199 was chatting to him, and he says, 806 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,320 "you know, you're very lucky." 807 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,639 And I says, "why?" 808 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,559 He said, "another week I was gone to Singapore 809 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,039 and you would never get me." 810 00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,000 Whelan saying to the detective, 811 00:39:16,159 --> 00:39:18,760 you know, one more week and I'd have been in Singapore. 812 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,039 I think it kind of shows that he's seeing 813 00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:22,480 this as a bit of a game. 814 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:24,800 It's almost like he's trying to flex, you know, 815 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,159 that this was a master plan, and 816 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,039 he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you 817 00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:30,199 and those meddling kids. 818 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,760 You know, it's a bit gamified, and 819 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,000 it's clearly someone not taking the severity of their actions 820 00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:41,320 seriously, and certainly not showing any remorse 821 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,559 for the death of Mary. 822 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,320 On April 11, 2005, four years 823 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,679 after Mary Gough's murder, Colin 824 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,800 stood trial at Dublin's Central Criminal Court 825 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,920 in one of the most publicized trials 826 00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,559 in Irish criminal history. 827 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,320 At the beginning of that trial, 828 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,320 and before any jury were called, 829 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,800 he was arraigned by the court clerk, who read out the charge. 830 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,719 He was asked, "did you, Colin Whelan, on the 1st of March, 831 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,159 killed Mary Gough?" 832 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,440 and he looked round at me, and he just looked at me 833 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,400 for a second or two, and he looked back up at the judge 834 00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:17,519 and he said, "guilty." 835 00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:21,639 Colin Whelan's admission of guilt 836 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,840 stunned the packed courtroom. 837 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 The Gough family were very happy. 838 00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:28,519 They were ecstatic. 839 00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:32,599 But I looked around at his family, the Whelan family. 840 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,679 They were gobsmacked. 841 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,320 They could not believe what they heard. 842 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,840 They were convinced that their Colin Whelan was innocent. 843 00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:45,400 There's a few reasons that Colin Whelan 844 00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:46,960 might be pleading guilty. 845 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:50,039 It might be because he wants the shock and the attention 846 00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:53,480 that this is going to give saying guilty at this moment. 847 00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:56,880 It might be because he knows that by entering a guilty plea, 848 00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,679 you're more likely to get a slightly reduced sentence 849 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,360 because you're saving the court a trial. 850 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:04,519 But it also might be simply because he 851 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:06,719 knows the evidence is too strong against him, 852 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,840 and there's no way out. 853 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,719 Colin plead guilty, in my mind, 854 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,599 I have no doubt about this, that he didn't want his family 855 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,360 to know the details of what he actually did, 856 00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:18,800 and that would all come out during the course of a trial. 857 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,079 As part of his guilty plea, 858 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,280 Colin issued an apology letter to the Gough family. 859 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,039 He explained he was sorry for what he had done, 860 00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,119 but it didn't wash with the Gough family. 861 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:36,159 It was seen more of an insult and a hurtful, paltry apology. 862 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,719 And it was self-serving, I think, at the end of the day. 863 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,199 On April 12, 2005, Colin Whelan was sentenced 864 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,000 for the murder of Mary Gough. 865 00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:50,440 Addressing Colin, the judge described Mary's murder 866 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:53,119 as the most calculated and callous 867 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,840 killing he had ever encountered in his entire time in court. 868 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,239 He then gave Colin Whelan a mandatory sentence 869 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,480 of life imprisonment. 870 00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:05,639 Colin had tried to fool 871 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,039 his own family, the Gough family, the Gardas, and 872 00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,320 everyone else that would listen to him, 873 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,199 that everything was an accident. 874 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,440 He intended to cash in his 400,000 875 00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:18,519 and swan off to wherever he wanted 876 00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:19,960 to do whatever he wanted. 877 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:21,440 And that's what he thought. 878 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:25,199 But unfortunately, his plan came to a sticky end. 879 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,239 Smart and all, and as clever and all as he was, 880 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,920 he just wasn't as clever as the investigator. 881 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:34,280 And I'm proud that it had a successful outcome 882 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,679 for the Gough family. 883 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,039 This whole case, 884 00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:44,559 from start to finish, really seems 885 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,239 like Colin's attempt to assert control and power 886 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,360 and show off his intelligence. 887 00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:55,159 All of it is him, I think, trying to really manipulate 888 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,679 those around him still. 889 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,920 It's all still about how he's perceived by the public. 890 00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,320 And that sort of narcissism is a real common trait 891 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,119 that you see in people with psychopathy. 892 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,519 Mary Gough's death is unfortunately 893 00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:11,880 one of many hundreds that I've dealt with. 894 00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:13,519 I've never forgotten it. 895 00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,199 And I've never forgotten her. 896 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,320 And she's one of the ones that stays with me. 897 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,039 And there's a few who do. 898 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,119 I think as a woman, you feel for women 899 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,000 in those circumstances. 900 00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:28,519 You think she was killed by the person that she loved 901 00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:30,880 and who told her that he loved her. 902 00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:34,119 And I think how often women get into a situation like that 903 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,800 and assume that they're going to have the happy ever after, 904 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,519 and then it all goes horribly wrong. 905 00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:42,599 It's just a tragedy. 906 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,639 Over two decades since her death, 907 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,320 Mary is still fondly remembered by those that knew her 908 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,599 and those involved in the investigation. 909 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,679 I can tell you from what I picked up about Mary, 910 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,320 from her friends, from her family, 911 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,119 she was a beautiful, kind, caring person. 912 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,800 She was very diligent, very intelligent. 913 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,280 And what happened was absolutely shocking. 914 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,920 But victims shouldn't be forgot about, like, you know. 915 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,639 And as an investigator, you get to know the deceased even 916 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,280 though you've never met them. 917 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,440 And I felt Mary was really a beautiful woman, 918 00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:22,679 a fine lady that suffered. 919 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,000 And unfortunately, in this world, 920 00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:27,679 there's too many women that go through that. 73417

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