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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,720 A fatal fall from 80 feet 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,720 off a bridge into an ice cold river 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,880 in the middle of the night. 4 00:00:14,199 --> 00:00:16,239 We could see scuff marks on the pipe, 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,879 as if someone had been trying to cling on for their life 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,280 before falling to their death. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,800 A young student's life cut short. 8 00:00:25,879 --> 00:00:29,559 You never expect a child to go early. 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,600 It's like torture. 10 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:34,920 Was it simply a bizarre accident-- 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,119 What he witnessed was John almost doing 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,640 a backflip over the railings and 13 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:42,079 disappearing into the water. 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,640 - or murder? 15 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:50,640 Unless he was punched with the force of someone 16 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:55,640 like Popeye, then he could not go over accidentally. 17 00:01:16,239 --> 00:01:21,079 Our son, John Chipp, was born on the 11th of March, 18 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:26,000 1986, in Castletown, which is an area in Sunderland. 19 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:29,560 He was a lovely baby. 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,799 He was bright. 21 00:01:30,879 --> 00:01:32,959 He walked early at 10 months. 22 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,879 He was always fun. 23 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,400 He was very thoughtful, very loving, 24 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,120 very friendly with everybody. 25 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,439 And he just loved life. 26 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,560 MARK CHIPP - Mine and John's relationship was really good one. 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,040 We were very close. 28 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,640 Our John was the older one. 29 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:52,120 He was two years older than me. 30 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,640 He was always there for us. 31 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:55,120 He would always stick up for us. 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,840 He would always fight my corner, 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,519 and we had some great times together. 34 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:01,840 Like many young people in Sunderland, 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,000 John loved soccer. 36 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:06,519 Even before he could walk properly, 37 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:08,719 he was kicking the ball around. 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,800 He loved to follow 39 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:11,639 Sunderland Football Club. 40 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:14,159 He was a season ticket holder. 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,199 We used to go out and play football together, 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,759 and he was great at football. 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,159 So he just used to take the ball past me all the time. 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,120 John also shared his father's 45 00:02:25,199 --> 00:02:27,360 love of racing pigeons. 46 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:30,479 He used to love coming down, sitting with the birds, 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,560 helping his dad basket the birds and train the birds. 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,960 It's the delightful John Chipp. 49 00:02:39,039 --> 00:02:41,159 He's been in the sea. 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,319 We enjoyed our family holidays, and 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,319 we went to the Dominican Republic as a family. 52 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,479 The holiday was great. 53 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,479 We had a right laugh. 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,680 I was 15 at the time. 55 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:51,439 He would have been 17. 56 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,919 And we just bonded. 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:53,960 It was great. 58 00:02:55,199 --> 00:02:56,719 I'd class him as a perfect brother. 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,240 I-- I don't think I could have asked much more from him. 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,479 He was very loving, very thoughtful. 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,319 Always tell you he loved you and put his arms around you. 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,120 We couldn't have asked for anything better. 63 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,560 Situated in the Northeast of England, 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,039 John's home city of Sunderland is famous for more 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,560 than its Football Club. 66 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,960 We've got a fabulous coastline, 67 00:03:20,039 --> 00:03:24,000 lots of historic things, good shopping centers. 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,840 It's a really, really nice area to live. 69 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,800 It's a city that former Detective Superintendent 70 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:35,199 Ian Sharp policed for a decade during his 30 years of service. 71 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:41,479 The city of Sunderland is a typical busy city center built 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,080 around the River Wear, the deep gorge river, 73 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:47,719 ideal for shipbuilding, and one of the oldest 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,319 bridges crossing the river is the Queen Alexandra Bridge. 75 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,280 It's 330 feet long and 85 feet high. 76 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:02,240 By 2004, John Chipp had finished school 77 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:05,520 and was preparing for his next stage in life. 78 00:04:05,599 --> 00:04:07,400 John was enrolled in college to do 79 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:09,840 a BTEC in public services. 80 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:11,599 I think he wanted to be either 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,319 a fireman or a police officer. 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,560 John turned 18 on March 11, 2004. 83 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:21,639 And a week later, on Thursday, March 18, 84 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,800 another friend was celebrating their big day. 85 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:29,199 When John finished work, he called in to see 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,680 his dad at the pigeon loft. 87 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:35,000 And he just says, dad, do you mind if I go out? 88 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:37,560 I said to them, don't get too much 89 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:42,680 to drink, make sure you stick together, 90 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:45,000 and make sure you come home together. 91 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:47,040 Went out with a big smile on his face 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,480 as he used excited to go and have a drink with his friends. 93 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:55,079 I didn't get home until after John had gone out. 94 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,639 We had our evening meal, settled down for the evening, 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,839 went to bed, and John wasn't in. 96 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:05,360 It wasn't until the following morning 97 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:09,079 that we both realized he hadn't come home, 98 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,399 and that's when alarm bells start to ring. 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,360 It was not like him at all. 100 00:05:16,439 --> 00:05:19,839 He hadn't even phoned or left a message 101 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,759 to say he was all right. 102 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,040 I had to get to work that Friday morning. 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,199 But I think during the whole day, both of us 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,879 tried his mobile phone numerous times. 105 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:33,480 He didn't answer. 106 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,959 The day have passed, and we just 107 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,279 thought he might have been partying at a friend's 108 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,319 house or whatever. 109 00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:44,240 When I came back from work on Friday evening, 110 00:05:44,319 --> 00:05:46,800 that's when we reported him missing to the police. 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,360 They wanted a photograph of him. 112 00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:59,160 John always played five a side football at Nissan Car Factory 113 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,519 Sports Club on a Friday. 114 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,680 We went there, and he wasn't there. 115 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:07,319 You get that feeling, you know there's something 116 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:10,600 wrong, desperately wrong. 117 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,759 Just a gut feeling that you know 118 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,079 it's going to turn out bad. 119 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,199 It was just like he disappeared off the Earth. 120 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Meanwhile, police were 121 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:25,199 rapidly escalating their inquiries 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,920 into John's disappearance. 123 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,879 He was reported missing Friday, 124 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:32,680 the 19th of March to my colleague, Detective 125 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:33,759 Sergeant Chris Sobenga. 126 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:38,279 We get many reports of missing from homes. 127 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,240 This one was more unusual. 128 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:45,160 The family were distraught and frantic. 129 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,319 Chris Sobenga contacted the family immediately to seek 130 00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:50,120 clues and help from them. 131 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:53,920 We began inquiries around the mobile phone 132 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,879 to see if there was any response from that. 133 00:06:56,959 --> 00:07:02,079 And then began to review CCTV footage from the town center 134 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,480 to see if they could pick up John Chipp. 135 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:11,360 CCTV, in its early stages, was very grainy and bad quality. 136 00:07:11,439 --> 00:07:15,040 But they were able to pick up John Chipp in the town 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,199 center at around 11:30. 138 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:22,839 He'd been out drinking, and was very drunk, 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 and had been spoken to by police officers 140 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:29,360 in the town center, who told him to behave and 141 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:31,160 get himself on his way home. 142 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:35,600 Further CCTV footage was reviewed, 143 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,560 and it was able to pick up John running home quite 144 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:43,800 fast from the city center along towards 145 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:45,279 the Queen Alexandra Bridge. 146 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,839 Another male was seen about two minutes ahead 147 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,519 of him going onto the bridge before John ran 148 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,560 onto the bridge. 149 00:07:55,079 --> 00:07:57,639 The last movements of John entering the bridge 150 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,279 from the south side was just after midnight at about 151 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,639 quarter past midnight. 152 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,600 That takes us into the early hours 153 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,800 of Friday the 19th of March. 154 00:08:08,759 --> 00:08:12,360 So we know that he went onto the Queen Alexandra Bridge 155 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:16,279 from the south side trying to get home on the north side. 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,199 But he never came over the other side of the bridge. 157 00:08:19,279 --> 00:08:20,240 He wasn't seen again. 158 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:24,240 The worst case scenario was that 159 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,399 he'd fallen from the bridge somehow, an 80-foot drop. 160 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,080 A fall from the bridge of 80 foot onto the water 161 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:37,919 would certainly knock you out unconscious immediately. 162 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,039 It's similar to hitting concrete. 163 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,840 The weather at the time was rough 164 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:46,200 and a cold water temperature from the north sea. 165 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:50,960 The chances of survival from an 80-foot drop onto the river 166 00:08:51,039 --> 00:08:52,480 are very slim indeed. 167 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,639 In the days after John Chipp went missing on 168 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,720 March 18, 2004, possibly having suffered 169 00:09:07,799 --> 00:09:12,039 a fatal fall from the Queen Alexandra Bridge in Sunderland, 170 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,320 police and family grew increasingly 171 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:16,799 concerned for his safety. 172 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:18,080 You felt powerless. 173 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:19,279 You didn't know where to start looking. 174 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,279 You don't know what to do. 175 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,440 It's awful, absolutely awful. 176 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:28,240 While police pieced together 177 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,159 John's last known movements, John's father, 178 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,279 George, continued to do everything 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,240 he could to find his son. 180 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,759 I just couldn't sit back and just sit-in the house. 181 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,159 I just had to be out there, looking. 182 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,480 I'd went down to the river, because we used to walk 183 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,320 the dog down the river. 184 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:51,320 I searched the allotments where I've got the pigeons. 185 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:54,240 I never give up. 186 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,039 I went out looking every day. 187 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,080 I always had it in my head that he was going to show up. 188 00:09:59,159 --> 00:10:00,080 He's somewhere. 189 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:01,960 He's-- he's just being an idiot. 190 00:10:02,039 --> 00:10:04,200 Just come home, John. 191 00:10:04,279 --> 00:10:06,360 Investigators, led at this point 192 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,799 by Detective Sergeant Chris Sobenga 193 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:10,840 were desperate for more information. 194 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,720 Chris Sobenga was in close contact with the family, 195 00:10:15,799 --> 00:10:18,360 and he urged the family to make a press 196 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,440 appeal for further witnesses to come forward. 197 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,840 Sunderland Football Club, they 198 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,519 were very happy to put an appeal out at their home game 199 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,960 that weekend. 200 00:10:30,039 --> 00:10:35,320 I was asked if I would do a local radio interview. 201 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:37,000 Probably one of the most traumatic ones 202 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,840 was doing the press conference where 203 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:43,879 people's cameras are clicking as you walk in a room. 204 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,759 There are a number 205 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,159 of reasons why the police might choose to hold 206 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,720 a missing person appeal. 207 00:10:50,799 --> 00:10:53,000 The first one might be that they are looking out 208 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,639 for people who might be witnesses, 209 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,919 without even realizing that they witnessed anything. 210 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,519 There is the added benefit in a way 211 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,799 that doing this appeal is really highlighting 212 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:04,799 to the victim's family that they 213 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:07,240 are doing as much as they can. 214 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,919 A missing person's appeal can have the added bonus 215 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,519 of putting pressure on people who either know information or 216 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,840 is aware of someone else being involved, 217 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:18,639 because it can start to feel like those walls are 218 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,320 closing in. 219 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:23,120 So it can encourage people who know something to come forward. 220 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Police investigations at this point 221 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,600 are centered around searching the riverbanks. 222 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,600 The Marine section of Northumbria police 223 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,080 were involved, underwater search 224 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:37,679 unit divers were involved. 225 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:40,200 But it is difficult because of the fast flowing 226 00:11:40,279 --> 00:11:42,919 tide and the deep silt. 227 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,879 But almost two weeks since his disappearance, 228 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,559 there was still no sign of John. 229 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:49,759 The police are struggling 230 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,320 to find any clues or evidence. 231 00:11:52,399 --> 00:11:55,120 The bridge has been searched and analyzed. 232 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,799 There are no signs of any struggle or assault or 233 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:01,240 any blood, so there is no typical crime scene 234 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,559 to start a murder inquiry. 235 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,679 Meanwhile, the local community rallied 236 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:08,080 to support John's family. 237 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,320 I had people knocking on our door 238 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:16,159 with flowers, some people I didn't even know. 239 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,120 I started to feel like we lived in a flower shop. 240 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,919 But you almost feel like your life's not your own 241 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,440 at that time, because you just go through motions 242 00:12:28,519 --> 00:12:33,120 other than your grief and your frustration of not having any-- 243 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,320 anything to do or any news. 244 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:37,120 You function, and that's all. 245 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:41,159 In late March 2004, two 246 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,200 weeks after John went missing from the Queen Alexandra 247 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:47,720 Bridge, police received a call, which was quickly 248 00:12:47,799 --> 00:12:50,759 brought to the attention of Detective Superintendent 249 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Ian sharp. 250 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,600 The phone call comes in from a member 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,120 of the public, who happens to be a family friend of a man 252 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,240 named Christopher Weldon. 253 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,679 The witness told us that he'd been 254 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:07,960 out drinking with Christopher Weldon and the wives. 255 00:13:08,039 --> 00:13:09,799 There'd been a lot of alcohol consumed. 256 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Weldon's wife took the car keys from Weldon 257 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,919 and told him he was not capable of driving. 258 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,840 Weldon objected to that. 259 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:23,720 There was an argument, and he stormed off in a huff, 260 00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:27,000 stating he was going to go to the Queen Alexandra Bridge 261 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,919 and throw himself off. 262 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,000 The witness told us that he'd been talking 263 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,960 to Christopher Weldon, and-- and he said, 264 00:13:38,039 --> 00:13:39,879 you'd never guess what's happened. 265 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,159 I went to the Queen Alexandra Bridge, 266 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,240 and as I was standing there, a young lad came running across, 267 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,639 and he's gone over the side of the bridge. 268 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,159 The witness urged Weldon to go to the police, 269 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,320 but Weldon refused. 270 00:13:57,639 --> 00:13:59,840 So that witness came to the police 271 00:13:59,919 --> 00:14:02,679 and gave us that information. 272 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:06,159 And at that point, myself and Steve Barron 273 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,200 became involved in a homicide inquiry. 274 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:15,679 The witness had quite a tale to tell, 275 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:20,600 and I think we were all very surprised when he came forward. 276 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,080 Weldon had said, this young lad come running towards us, 277 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:28,600 and he started to fight with us. 278 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:31,600 And during that fight, that young lad has 279 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:34,240 somehow gone over the bridge. 280 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,639 Weldon hadn't done anything. 281 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,799 He hadn't left the bridge and contacted 282 00:14:37,879 --> 00:14:39,360 the emergency services. 283 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,039 In actual fact, he'd left the bridge, phoned a friend, 284 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,799 and got a lift home. 285 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:48,080 The witness was willing to give that evidence in court. 286 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:50,919 So now we have what we would refer to as a key and 287 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,600 significant witness. 288 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:56,600 And now we are very much leaning towards the fact 289 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:59,000 that what's happened on the bridge 290 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,480 is John has come across Christopher Weldon. 291 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:05,279 There's been some form of altercation. 292 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,679 And as a result of that, John's ended up in the river. 293 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Investigators were grateful 294 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:17,039 that the witness had found the strength to come forward and 295 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,759 report one of his own friends. 296 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,279 He knows that if this turns out to be a murder 297 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,159 and his friends found guilty of it, that he's going 298 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,759 to go to jail for a long time. 299 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,320 I'm sure he thought long and hard about it, 300 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:36,799 but I'm also sure that he was hugely 301 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:40,120 influenced by those appeals from John's parents. 302 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,639 Armed with this new information, 303 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Detective Superintendent Ian Sharp moved 304 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,240 quickly to detain his suspect. 305 00:15:49,559 --> 00:15:51,360 Christopher Weldon was arrested and 306 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,879 placed in the cells overnight. 307 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,399 He was originally arrested for an assault case 308 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,399 because he'd already confessed to being 309 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,720 in a fight on the bridge with a younger man. 310 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:10,519 So the arrest for assault was appropriate because we 311 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,080 did not have a dead body. 312 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:15,919 With Christopher Weldon in detention 313 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,960 awaiting interview at Sunderland police station, 314 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:21,799 astonishing new information about their suspect 315 00:16:21,879 --> 00:16:24,679 quickly came to light regarding an incident 316 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:28,360 that happened just 10 days before John Chipp disappeared. 317 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,840 We found out that Christopher Weldon had 318 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:35,440 been a passenger on a ferry. 319 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:39,480 That ferry traveled from Amsterdam to North Shields. 320 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:42,000 And what we knew was that Weldon was on that boat 321 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,559 with a number of friends. 322 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:48,879 We also knew that there was a 35-year-old German man called 323 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,480 Frank Conrad on the ferry. 324 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:53,519 We know on that ferry trip, there 325 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,639 had been an argument between Weldon and Frank Conrad. 326 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,080 And when the ferry docked in North shields, 327 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:02,399 Mr. Conrad was not on board. 328 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Mr. Conrad, at some point during that journey, 329 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:11,319 had gone overboard and into the North Sea. 330 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,279 We know that Weldon was interviewed 331 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,119 by police about a week before John Chipp went missing. 332 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,640 So when Weldon was arrested in relation 333 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,920 to John's disappearance, he's already 334 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,160 a part of an investigation in relation 335 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,839 to Frank Conrad's missing episode from the ferry. 336 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Frank Conrad's body was never found. 337 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:35,839 And although Weldon was never charged, 338 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,599 police were struck by the similarities between the cases. 339 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:46,279 We have two reports of men going into water 340 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,720 under circumstances that are not 341 00:17:49,799 --> 00:17:52,759 understood and not explained. 342 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:58,759 And both investigations now involve Christopher Weldon. 343 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:02,240 It's important to note that Weldon 344 00:18:02,319 --> 00:18:04,640 never had any criminal charge associated 345 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,359 with the ferry incident. 346 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,039 However, that incident will have 347 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,960 meant that Weldon was aware that someone went overboard, 348 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:15,720 was missing, and no criminal charges were brought. 349 00:18:15,799 --> 00:18:17,720 And that does then pose the question 350 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:20,200 that, did that give Weldon a kind of sense 351 00:18:20,279 --> 00:18:23,799 of self-assurance, a confidence that he then 352 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,640 felt he didn't need to go to the police 353 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,480 when he knew that John had gone over the bridge? 354 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:31,079 Because he knew that no information had 355 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,079 been found in relation to the ferry incident, 356 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,759 so why would this be any Different 357 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,559 For Detective Superintendent Ian Sharp, 358 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,000 this was a unique and challenging case. 359 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,000 As a Detective Superintendent and 360 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:49,039 senior investigating officer, I had investigated many murders, 361 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,359 which normally begin with a crime scene, a dead body, 362 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,240 forensic scientists, pathologists, 363 00:18:56,319 --> 00:18:59,519 blood splash patterns, and lots of clues 364 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:01,519 to help you get started. 365 00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:04,720 This was a unique case because we had none of that. 366 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:08,440 And we were pinning our hopes on an interview strategy 367 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:11,960 to see what clues we could pick up from Christopher Weldon. 368 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:14,240 So it was important to talk to him 369 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:17,400 and find out exactly what happened on the bridge. 370 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:27,359 With 18-year-old John Chipp still missing after 371 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,319 an altercation on Queen Alexandra Bridge in Sunderland, 372 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,839 police needed to establish whether he had 373 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,599 accidentally fallen into the river below 374 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,039 or if he had been pushed. 375 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,920 While their number one suspect was 376 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,920 in the cells awaiting interview, 377 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,480 police informed John Chipp's family 378 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:47,440 of Christopher Weldon's arrest. 379 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,400 We had a visit from the CID. 380 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,359 But the information, what we got, 381 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,759 we didn't really want to hear, because it was all bad. 382 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:02,720 It was pure shock. 383 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:04,400 We still didn't have John. 384 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,400 We still didn't know the true facts behind what had gone on. 385 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,400 You just want to know where he is and why. 386 00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:14,680 As well as prompting 387 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:17,200 Christopher Weldon's arrest, the call 388 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:21,039 made by his friend also led Detective Superintendent Ian 389 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,839 Sharp to re-examine the scene of John Chipp's suspected 390 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,519 fatal fall. 391 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:31,000 When we got information that an altercation had taken place 392 00:20:31,079 --> 00:20:33,839 between Weldon and John Chipp on the bridge, 393 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,599 we examined closely a pipe that ran 394 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,559 alongside the barrier of the bridge, 395 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,200 and we could see scuff marks on the pipe, 396 00:20:42,279 --> 00:20:44,519 like finger marks being dragged down 397 00:20:44,599 --> 00:20:46,480 the pipe as if someone was trying 398 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:48,279 to hold on before falling. 399 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:51,039 It was gut wrenching. 400 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,599 It was terrible to think that someone 401 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,079 had been trying to cling on for their life 402 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,440 before falling to their death. 403 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:00,559 Seeing those finger marks on that pipe 404 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,960 certainly tied in with Weldon's first confession to his friend, 405 00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:08,160 that an altercation that took place, 406 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,720 and a boy had gone over the side of the bridge. 407 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,079 What we now had to try and understand 408 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,720 was, was that an accident or was he deliberately 409 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:20,720 thrown over the bridge? 410 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:22,200 Ian and his team knew 411 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:24,319 that interviewing Christopher Weldon 412 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,319 would be key to understanding what 413 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,039 really happened on the bridge. 414 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:32,160 Weldon's version of events is that he 415 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,880 is there because he is contemplating 416 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,079 taking his own life. 417 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:42,000 He says that he sees a young man running towards him, 418 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:46,640 and that that young man begins to assault him. 419 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,880 Weldon describes that he somehow stumbles 420 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,319 and his arms flail upwards. 421 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,200 And in doing so, he catches John somehow, 422 00:21:58,279 --> 00:22:02,359 and John is propelled backwards over the railings 423 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,400 and into the water. 424 00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:08,240 Video interviews now are very commonplace. 425 00:22:08,319 --> 00:22:10,000 But back then, they weren't. 426 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,640 It was difficult to picture in your mind 427 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,200 exactly what you were seeing and to establish, 428 00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:18,359 was this an accident or not. 429 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,480 I knew at that point the Crown Prosecution Service would think 430 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:23,119 there was reasonable doubt. 431 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,920 So I decided on a new tactic to go to the gymnasium 432 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,799 and set up a volleyball net at the same height of the bridge 433 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,599 barrier, and to get Weldon to reconstruct and tell 434 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,000 us exactly what had happened, only 435 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:44,079 this time video record it to see if what he was saying 436 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,200 was indeed possible. 437 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,880 We said it at the height of 4 feet 438 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,720 2 inches, which is exactly the same height 439 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:55,240 as the bridge barrier. 440 00:22:55,319 --> 00:22:58,240 And we essentially said to Weldon, 441 00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:01,319 can you show us what this looked like? 442 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,799 And what he described was being knocked back during this attack 443 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,200 and lost his balance. 444 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:13,119 His arm flew in the air, made contact with John. 445 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,079 And what he witnessed was John almost doing 446 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,119 a backflip over the railings and 447 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,160 disappearing into the water. 448 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,160 That's the version he was sticking to. 449 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,839 He was defending himself. 450 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,799 He was the victim, and this young boy 451 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,519 had somehow gone over headfirst over the side of the bridge 452 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,599 and had fallen to his death. 453 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,359 I'm thinking to myself from a common sense perspective, 454 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,519 I don't know if that's possible. 455 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:44,880 The difficulty now was convincing 456 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,799 the CPS to charge a murder charge given that we 457 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,119 did not have a dead body. 458 00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:55,200 To help convince the Crown Prosecution Service 459 00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,519 to charge Weldon with murder, they 460 00:23:57,599 --> 00:24:01,279 decided to enlist the help of pathologist Jim Sunter 461 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,519 and explained to him the circumstances 462 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:05,359 of the altercation. 463 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,640 We said, if this young man has gone off 464 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000 the bridge in these circumstances, 465 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,599 what's the likelihood of him surviving 466 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,200 an impact with the water? 467 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,519 And what that person said was, I'm 468 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:20,119 convinced that that young man would 469 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,119 not have survived that fall. 470 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,119 You simply haven't yet recovered his body. 471 00:24:25,319 --> 00:24:26,720 The next thing we asked him about 472 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:29,039 was, what did he think about the account 473 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,160 that Christopher Weldon had provided? 474 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,319 He immediately said, no, that's impossible, 475 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,920 because your center of gravity is down where your hips are. 476 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,519 The barrier rail is set at 4 foot 2 shoulder 477 00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:45,039 height for a safety reason. 478 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,839 And unless he was punched with the force of someone 479 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,319 like Popeye, then he could not go over accidentally. 480 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,359 We got a very early statement from the pathologist 481 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,200 at that point to support the theory 482 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,640 that John Chipp had been deliberately 483 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,240 pushed over the bridge. 484 00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:07,400 And this was murder, not an accident. 485 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,119 Even without a body, 486 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,799 the evidence gathered by Ian and Steve 487 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,640 was enough to convince the Crown Prosecution Service. 488 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,160 On Thursday, April 1, 2004, they 489 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,759 authorized a charge of murder against Christopher Weldon, 490 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,079 and he was remanded in custody to appear 491 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,359 at Houghton Le spring Magistrates' Court 492 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,400 the following morning. 493 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,599 Meanwhile, Ian and Steve visited John's family 494 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,640 to tell them that Weldon was now being charged 495 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,759 with their son's murder. 496 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:46,799 I don't recall exactly what my reaction was, 497 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,240 because it's not happiness. 498 00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:53,319 You never expect a child to go early. 499 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,359 It's like torture. 500 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,599 We still didn't have John. 501 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,759 All I wanted was to know where my-- 502 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:06,680 my son was so I could lay him to rest. 503 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,480 Often, we talk about the significant impact on families 504 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:13,640 when a loved one is murdered, but 505 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,640 it can be worse when there is no body to grieve over. 506 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,759 Because there's this constant back of the mind thought of, 507 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:21,960 what if they're just missing? 508 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:23,400 What if they turn up? 509 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,559 Because there's no evidence physically 510 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,880 yet that that can't happen. 511 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,160 The underlying priority for the family and for us, 512 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,119 was to recover John Chipp's body 513 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720 and give the family some peace of mind. 514 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:41,000 And we made a promise that we would 515 00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:44,440 do everything humanly possible to recover John's body. 516 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:47,480 While police frogmen continued 517 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:50,240 to search the River Wear, investigators 518 00:26:50,319 --> 00:26:53,519 made another breakthrough in the case. 519 00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:56,000 A witness came forward, and she described 520 00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:58,960 entering the bridge from the North side, 521 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:02,039 and she encountered a big man, who we now 522 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,960 know as Christopher Weldon. 523 00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,000 She walked past the big man. 524 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,599 And as she walked towards the South side, 525 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,559 she saw what she says is a young boy 526 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,759 running under the bridge. 527 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720 It is important that she places both of them 528 00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:21,319 together on the bridge at quarter past midnight. 529 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,480 That was the last sighting of John Chipp. 530 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,000 As investigations continued, 531 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,039 so did the search for John Chipp's body. 532 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,680 It's important because that body will tell us a story. 533 00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:38,680 For example, was John alive when he hit the water, 534 00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:42,519 or was he killed on the bridge first and then thrown over? 535 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:44,880 John could have had a suicide note 536 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,440 on his body, which would indicate 537 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:49,480 that he had killed himself rather than 538 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:50,920 being thrown from the bridge. 539 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,079 The officers from the Northumbria Police Marine 540 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,680 Unit undertook hours and hours of searching 541 00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:00,240 in the-- the river. 542 00:28:00,319 --> 00:28:03,359 We are in the most arduous of circumstances. 543 00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:09,279 We had a friend that had a small, small boat. 544 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,960 For a couple of days, we went up and down the river, 545 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:13,680 the same river as the police. 546 00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:15,200 So they were on the south side. 547 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:20,519 We were on the north side, but we had no joy. 548 00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:22,599 It was nigh on impossible, really. 549 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:29,160 On April 15, 2004, almost a month 550 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,039 after John Chipp had fallen from the Queen Alexandra 551 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,119 bridge, and two weeks after Christopher Weldon had 552 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,680 been charged with his murder, the search for John's body 553 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:39,720 came to an end. 554 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:45,880 A dog Walker at Hilton, a couple of miles up the river, 555 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,720 saw a body floating in the river and contacted the police. 556 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,880 The Marine section recovered the body from the river 557 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,079 and brought it back to the dock at Sunderland, where myself 558 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,400 and Steve Barron were waiting. 559 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,319 John's mobile phone, and as I recall, his wallet were-- 560 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,599 were still in his pockets. 561 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,599 So that-- that indicated that it was John, 562 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,119 and you could see that it was-- it 563 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,880 was John, albeit he was formally identified 564 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,839 through DNA enquiries. 565 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,440 John's body was sent 566 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,519 to pathologist Jim Sunter for a post-mortem, 567 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,160 while Detective Superintendent Ian Sharp passed on the news 568 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,200 to John's family. 569 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,359 They just gave us that information 570 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,839 and made sure we were OK, but I think 571 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,880 they knew that we needed to be on our own, 572 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,079 and I think we just hugged and cried. 573 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,720 Part in sadness, but also relief 574 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,079 that at least we knew where he was, 575 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,079 and we could finally have some closure. 576 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,960 I was in school, actually. 577 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:03,640 I was in a lesson, and the two teachers come in 578 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,119 and took me out of the lesson. 579 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,599 I thought I was in trouble. 580 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,000 And they put us in the car, but they didn't say a word. 581 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:12,519 It was just silence. 582 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:14,000 And then they took us home. 583 00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:17,880 And that's when I got-- 584 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,680 got told that the body had been found. 585 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,599 And then when the teachers had gone, I just burst-- 586 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,960 burst into tears, and I just jumped off the stairs 587 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,039 and just gave my mom and dad a big cuddle. 588 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,359 While John's family were left to process the news, 589 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,240 a post-mortem gave investigators 590 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,400 more information about what had happened to him the night 591 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,440 he fell from the bridge. 592 00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,680 He had not been stabbed before going over 593 00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:48,279 from the side of the bridge. 594 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:50,880 John had water in his lungs, which 595 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480 means that when John entered the river, 596 00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:56,359 he was still breathing. 597 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,519 Pathologists said he would have been knocked 598 00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:00,240 unconscious immediately. 599 00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:03,359 And when he went under the water, 600 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,960 he took a gulp of breath, and water entered his lungs. 601 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:10,200 The cause of death was given as drowning. 602 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,079 The property was still on the body, 603 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,759 so he wasn't robbed on the bridge, and nothing else 604 00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:20,640 to give us any indication that something else had happened 605 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,680 on the bridge, other than an altercation and 606 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,359 being bundled over the side and into the river 607 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,720 whilst he was alive. 608 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,440 Trying to put together a motive for John's murder, 609 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,359 I think it's clear that Christopher Weldon's 610 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,240 standing on that bridge with serious troubles on his mind. 611 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,119 He'd just been interviewed about a ferry death. 612 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,079 He'd had an argument with his wife. 613 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,359 He was drunk. 614 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,799 He'd gone to the bridge, and he told people 615 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,759 he was going to kill himself. 616 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,039 He didn't kill himself and killed someone else instead. 617 00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:00,319 After weeks of turmoil, 618 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,119 John Chipp's parents were finally able to begin 619 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200 preparing for his funeral. 620 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,359 And his father, George, was determined 621 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,039 that John finished the journey he started the night he died. 622 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,000 I was told that there wouldn't be bringing them home, 623 00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:19,119 but I demanded he come home. 624 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400 I says he was on his way home. 625 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,599 He wanted to get home. 626 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,680 I want you to bring him home. 627 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:29,759 They brought in that house, and we-- 628 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:33,880 we had John in the house overnight, 629 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,839 obviously, in his coffin. 630 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,000 That was such a relief. 631 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:42,440 I felt much, much better just having 632 00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,119 him there for that night. 633 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,680 That was probably the best sleep I had had for weeks. 634 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,079 Finally, on May 12, 2004, 635 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,839 John Chipp was laid to rest. 636 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,319 The funeral was absolutely massive. 637 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,759 Couldn't get everyone in the church. 638 00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:00,960 Outside the church, the street was just packed. 639 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,559 It was-- it's the biggest funeral I've ever-- 640 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,079 I've ever seen. 641 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,160 It was unbelievable the amount that turnout for him. 642 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,079 The street was lined by hundreds of neighbors, friends. 643 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:14,559 It was very moving. 644 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,240 It was an amazing occasion, but a-- but a very sad one. 645 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,200 You can't believe that an-- 646 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:29,920 an 18-year-old that still lived at home could have an effect 647 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,559 on so many people's lives. 648 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,079 On June 15, 2004, Christopher Weldon 649 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,200 appeared in court at a plea hearing 650 00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:50,200 for pushing John Chipp to his death 651 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:53,599 from the Queen Alexandra bridge in Sunderland. 652 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,720 It was the first time John's parents 653 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:59,880 came face to face with the man accused of killing their son. 654 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,640 I remember thinking, bizarrely, he's not a monster. 655 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,239 I-- I don't know whether you think somebody is-- 656 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,599 that does such a horrific thing to another human 657 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,480 being can look normal. 658 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:18,840 I just seen him as evil. 659 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,760 I couldn't see him as anything else. 660 00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,000 After pleading not guilty, 661 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:30,159 Christopher Weldon was remanded until November 2004, 662 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,159 when he went on trial for the murder of John Chipp. 663 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,039 To disprove Weldon's version of events, 664 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,440 the prosecution wanted to show the jury 665 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:41,920 a visual interpretation of what must 666 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,280 have happened on the bridge. 667 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:46,719 In the run up to the trial, we 668 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,400 considered another new tactic of doing 669 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,639 a computer reconstruction. 670 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,760 The defense didn't like it because it was prejudicial 671 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,440 and because it wasn't admitted in evidence. 672 00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,440 That caused the judge to instruct 673 00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:04,840 the jury to attend the bridge. 674 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,719 It is very rare that a jury will physically go and 675 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,639 visit a crime scene location. 676 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,159 The whole court process is supposed 677 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,119 to be very secular, very kept within closed walls. 678 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,719 Now, it can be really helpful for the jury to help 679 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,199 contextualize the scene. 680 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,119 Specifically, in this case, they 681 00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,360 need to understand the physicality, 682 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,519 the physical possibility of Weldon's claim 683 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,880 that John has just accidentally almost fallen 684 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,519 over the side of this bridge. 685 00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:34,039 And so this visit to the bridge is 686 00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:37,000 going to have had to be extremely well planned 687 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:38,880 and mapped out to be able to go ahead. 688 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,159 Over 20 years later, 689 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,840 former Detective Inspector Steve Barron 690 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,840 revisited the bridge to retrace the jury's steps. 691 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,239 We wanted the jury to see what this looked 692 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,480 like, a 4 foot 2 railing. 693 00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:57,840 And to get over here, you're going to have to climb over, 694 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,320 or you're going to have to be manhandled and thrown over. 695 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,760 And we wanted the jury to understand what an 85-foot drop 696 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,000 looks like, because that's what we've got 697 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,199 from here under the river. 698 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,679 Coming here and seeing this footpath 699 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,320 made the jury think about the account that Weldon had given. 700 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960 And ultimately, that just demonstrated 701 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:23,320 that Weldon's account was totally fanciful. 702 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,719 The defense claimed that John's death 703 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,960 was an accident, and that he had attacked Weldon. 704 00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:37,639 Defense was making John out to be an unpleasant individual, 705 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,719 that John was looking for a fight, 706 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,400 and that's hard to listen to as a mother 707 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,400 whose son had been murdered. 708 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,880 In his defense, Weldon also came 709 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,599 up with an unexpected tactic. 710 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,519 Incredibly, as part of the defense strategy, 711 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:03,039 they introduced evidence about the ferry incident 712 00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:05,239 the week before John going missing. 713 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,920 Where Frank Conrad had been reported missing, 714 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,159 presumed having gone overboard. 715 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,159 And the jury heard that Weldon had been on the ferry 716 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,880 when this had happened, that he'd been 717 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,639 interviewed by the police. 718 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,000 It seems extremely unusual that Weldon's defense attorney 719 00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:27,400 would decide to bring up a case where Weldon's been questioned 720 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960 in relation to a potential crime 721 00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:32,199 in very similar circumstances to the one 722 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,079 that he's now on trial for. 723 00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:35,800 There are a couple of reasons that they might have 724 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,320 decided to do this, though. 725 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,199 This is a relatively small local community. 726 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,239 People are going to have heard about Weldon being questioned 727 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,039 in relation to this prior case, so they maybe 728 00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,079 thought it's better to officially 729 00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:51,760 introduce it to record and control the narrative 730 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,639 in relation to it. 731 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,519 Additionally, they're trying to use this to paint Weldon 732 00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:59,039 as this victim who's being falsely accused 733 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,440 and has had these run ins a couple of times now. 734 00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:04,880 Ultimately, though, I think it backfires. 735 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,000 Because actually, it just goes to show 736 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:11,199 that this is the type of person who's at least been suspected 737 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,840 of being able to show this level of extreme violence 738 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,719 before and not even very long ago. 739 00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:21,480 On Wednesday, December 1, 2004, 740 00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,039 the jury returned their verdict. 741 00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:27,440 The jury came back with a majority of 10 to 2 742 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,119 that Weldon was guilty of John's murder. 743 00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:34,360 But you know what, we don't win. 744 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,719 We don't have our son back and never will do. 745 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,159 So yes, there is some happiness and elation on one part. 746 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,639 But equally, that sadness is still there. 747 00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,639 Christopher Weldon was given a life 748 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,440 sentence with a recommendation of 15 749 00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,800 years in prison minus the eight months 750 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,440 he'd already spent on remand. 751 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,199 In my opinion, it wasn't a fair-- 752 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,880 it wasn't a fair sentence. 753 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,599 I pictured him as coming out at 42. 754 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:12,920 He's still got a lot of years to enjoy life, 755 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,639 and I just didn't think the sentence was long enough. 756 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,760 From a professional perspective, 757 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,760 sentencing and guidelines are there for judges 758 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,320 to understand and implement. 759 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:35,199 And on that basis, 15 years was entirely appropriate. 760 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,800 But had John been my boy and somebody had murdered him, 761 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,320 I would want them to go to jail for the rest of their life. 762 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,480 After the jury's guilty verdict, 763 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:48,199 the judge acknowledged Ian, Steve, and 764 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,280 Detective Sergeant Chris Sobenga's roles in what had 765 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,719 been a tragic and unique case. 766 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,280 The judge formally commended Ian, 767 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:04,599 and he commended Chris and myself for our efforts 768 00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:08,360 in supporting Ian leading the investigation. 769 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,480 At the end of the trial, Ruth gave me a thank you 770 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:14,360 card and a bottle of whisky. 771 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,320 Getting a hug from Ruth was more important 772 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,760 than the commendation. 773 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,119 With Weldon serving time in Northumberland Prison, 774 00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,320 John's family faced the challenge of life 775 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,960 without their beloved son and brother. 776 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:31,199 You just have to try and move on. 777 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,280 I don't think any of us wanted to celebrate 778 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,239 Christmas that year, did we? 779 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,199 We-- we actually felt guilty-- 780 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,360 Enjoying ourselves. 781 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,000 for trying to enjoy ourselves. 782 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:43,599 At the time, I was very young 783 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,320 and I didn't realize how much losing my brother 784 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,039 had affected us. 785 00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:51,119 I think it changed my life drastically for the worse, 786 00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,639 really, because I grew up without a brother, 787 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,360 I'll never be able to be an uncle, stuff like that. 788 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,599 In the spring of 2019, 789 00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,199 over 14 years after Christopher Weldon was 790 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,599 sentenced for the murder of John Chipp, 791 00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:07,199 he became eligible for parole. 792 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,960 You are given the choice whether you 793 00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:14,960 want to deliver an impact statement at that 794 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:17,480 the parole hearing, and we decided 795 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:20,119 that's what we wanted to do. 796 00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:22,440 But Weldon refused to attend the family's 797 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:23,440 statement reading. 798 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,639 I thought it was just a coward. 799 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,000 He took our son away from us, and 800 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,400 he couldn't come and face us. 801 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,480 He didn't have the guts. 802 00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:35,679 Despite not being able to talk directly 803 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,480 to Weldon, Ruth read the family's impact statement, 804 00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:41,800 in which Ruth described how losing John 805 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,440 had affected the family. 806 00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,119 "John was a much loved son, 807 00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:50,559 brother, grandson, nephew, cousin, and friend. 808 00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:56,440 The anguish that we all feel at his pointless death 809 00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:01,840 is indescribable, and it is very hard to put it into words. 810 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,400 Our son, Mark, was only 15 years old 811 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,440 when John was murdered. 812 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,320 He often speaks of his brother affectionately 813 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,320 and becomes upset and angry that John is no longer with us. 814 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,119 My husband George and I are still haunted by John's death. 815 00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,000 No parent should have to experience 816 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,000 the tragic death of a child, especially 817 00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,239 in such awful circumstances." 818 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,000 John's parents requested the parole board keep 819 00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,360 Weldon locked up, but having served 820 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,639 his sentence, Weldon's parole was granted, 821 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,960 and he was released under license in December 2019. 822 00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:49,320 I wish he was still behind bars. 823 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,039 However, I won't allow it to eat me 824 00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:57,760 up and niggle away in my head. 825 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,960 And I need to fill it with much nicer things 826 00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:04,480 than thinking about him. 827 00:43:04,559 --> 00:43:07,039 Over 20 years since John's death, 828 00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:10,599 his memory lives on through his family and friends. 829 00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:12,119 We go out for his memory. 830 00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,400 We sometimes get together with the lads, 831 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,039 like all his close friends, at the time or all my-- 832 00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,119 like, some of them are my best friends now. 833 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,800 In memory of John, we decided to raise money for the guide 834 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,199 dogs for the blind. 835 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,760 We have managed to raise over 22,000 pounds. 836 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,840 We have named a dog after him. 837 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,280 We had a black Labrador called Chippy. 838 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,320 My older son, who was 13, he's 839 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,719 actually called John Chipp. 840 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,039 I named him after my brother in memory of him. 841 00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:48,599 John's old comprehensive school, 842 00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:53,599 we decided to set up a subject award in art in his memory. 843 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,239 We would like John to be remembered 844 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:05,280 as a young, ginger-headed young man who loved life, 845 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,199 loved his sport. 846 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,239 Loved his animals. 847 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,280 Mhm. 848 00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:15,360 I'd like John to be remembered as a fun, 849 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,719 outgoing, very kind, polite, lovely-- lovely person. 850 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,440 That's exactly who he was. 851 00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:25,760 He was a much loved child, and we 852 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,599 want his memory to continue. 67240

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