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A fatal fall from
a remote mountain trail.
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A young woman's life
erased in an instant.
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When I found
out, I practically collapsed
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on the floor right there.
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Was it just
a tragic accident--
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Steve's account
of what had happened
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was that Rhonda had slipped
and fallen because she was
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pretending to be Supergirl.
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- or could
the prosecution--
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One, two, three.
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- prove
it was murder?
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If she
ran off the edge,
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she would never have landed
that far from the cliff.
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Everybody needs to have
someone in their life
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that believes in them.
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And that was Rhonda.
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Rhonda Casto
was born in 1985, in Texas,
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and she was known
for being attractive woman.
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She had a really outgoing,
bubbly personality.
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Friends and family
described Rhonda as just so
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easygoing, great to be around.
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She had this really
infectious personality
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and she was really fiercely
loyal about the people
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that she loved.
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Rhonda was a very loving,
caring, non-judgmental person.
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Really kind of goofy
sense of humor like mine.
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Very outspoken, super loyal
to her friends and family.
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You know, it's cliche
to say it, but it's true,
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she's my best friend.
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You know, we were close.
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She's the type of person who
lights up a room or energy
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when she comes into a room.
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20-year-old Rhonda
moved to the Portland, Oregon
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area with her mom, Julia.
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The two had a really
close relationship.
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Julia was looking
to move house and
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she saw an ad online for a man
advertising his spare room
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in his three-bedroom house.
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And that's how
she found Steve.
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Not long after
Julia moved in,
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she introduced her
daughter to Steve.
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She thought that the pair would
get on really well, and before
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long, they were an item.
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Steve, he had the
ability to be very charming.
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He's well-spoken,
physically fit,
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and he shared a lot
of similar interests.
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I think that there was
genuine attraction there.
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It seems that
Steve had all of the attributes
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that Rhonda was
looking for, and
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he was willing to really
splash the cash on her
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and impress her.
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On the night that she had
first went on a date with
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Steve, she came home and she
had this little-- dainty
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little tennis bracelet on.
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You could tell it was real.
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It was-- it was nice.
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I mean, not like $1
million bracelet,
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but certainly, you
know-- within, you know,
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low four-figure range.
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Rhonda then moved
in with Steve,
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and eventually
the two moved out
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and got their own apartment.
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Three years later,
Rhonda was pregnant,
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and in 2008 they
had a baby daughter.
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She doted
on her daughter.
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It's hard to put into words.
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She was meant to be a mom.
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Her daughter was her world.
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Our childhood was
not the greatest,
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and so she wanted
for her daughter
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to have all those things
that we didn't have.
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You know, the structure,
the stability, the parent
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to dote on them
and show them the way
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and how to make
it in the world.
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This is what
she'd been waiting for.
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And she really grew
into that role as a mother.
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Before starting
a family with Steve,
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Rhonda was a rising star
on the Portland modeling scene.
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Rhonda was a beautiful woman,
really naturally attractive.
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She actually did get involved
with a modeling agency,
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and she had a portfolio and
headshots and all that stuff.
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And she had
a really successful career
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modeling for brands like Nike.
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After giving birth, Rhonda
was really keen to get
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back to her modeling jobs.
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She had a potential
job lined up
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as a Maria Sharapova
lookalike, so she really
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wanted to get back into shape.
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Steve was telling his
friends that Rhonda
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was keen to lose some
of her baby weight
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to bounce back into her
job, and so they'd
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talked about going hiking.
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But Rhonda
believed there
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might be another reason
for their hiking trip
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into the mountains.
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I remember
Rhonda telling us about it.
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He's going to propose to me.
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And they had literally
looked at rings,
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and so she was legitimately
excited about this hike.
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On March 16,
2009, Rhonda and Steve
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set off on a hike
on the Eagle Creek Trail
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in Oregon's Columbia
River Gorge.
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It's an area that
local investigator
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Dardie Robinson, who's lived in
Oregon for more than 20 years,
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knows well.
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The Columbia River Gorge
is a beautiful historic and
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natural scenic area.
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It's known for rugged terrain,
gorgeous views, sudden weather
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changes, and it's quite desired
by hikers, climbers, anyone who
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loves to go out and recreate.
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The Eagle Creek
Trail quickly goes
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from being no elevation up
to a couple of hundred feet
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at places above the creek.
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Eagle Creek
Trail is known for having
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really narrow pathways.
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Some of them you can
only go one at a time,
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and there's some sheer
drops of up to 150 feet.
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It's considered to
be advanced because, you know,
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the drop offs and there's
places where there's
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not guardrails, but just rope.
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It's beautiful,
but also very dangerous,
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especially if you're
not familiar with it
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or not extra careful
and know what you're doing.
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The weather
started out pleasant that day,
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but then things took
a bit of a turn.
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It really started
to pour down with rain,
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and the conditions
became quite treacherous.
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As the bad
weather closed
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in on the couple's
remote hike, at 6:09 PM,
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a frantic call was made.
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He said that he tried to call
911, but there was no service.
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So then he'd had to climb back
up again to make the call.
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Around 20 minutes
after Steve made the 911 call,
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first responders
and police arrived.
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They found Rhonda's
body, and they pronounced
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her dead at the scene.
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On the same evening,
Rhonda's family
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started to become concerned.
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Her mom, Julia, was
babysitting their daughter,
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and she hadn't heard
from Rhonda for hours.
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I
thought it was weird
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that she wasn't
answering her phone,
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so I just figured, oh,
they're out of service.
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But as afternoon turned
into early evening,
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I started getting
really concerned.
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This is not typical.
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Like, she wouldn't want to
leave their daughter that long.
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Family members were calling.
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They were texting Rhonda,
and they really started to get
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alarmed as the hours went on.
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Around 8:00 PM, there
was a knock at the door.
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A local chaplain had been
sent by the fire service
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and he told Julia that
her daughter was gone.
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Meanwhile,
Rhonda's brother,
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Jeff, was still awaiting news
on his sister's whereabouts.
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Once
it got past dark,
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I was starting to feel
kind of panicky,
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and so I called my mom again
and my mom's boyfriend answers,
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and I was like, did you
guys get a hold of her?
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And he's like, yep, it's done.
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And I was like,
what do you mean?
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What's done?
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He's like, done,
dude, she's dead.
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Like, that's literally
how he told me.
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No exaggeration.
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And I just collapsed.
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You know, I didn't pass out,
but I just dropped the phone
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and was like, oh my god,
you know what I mean?
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I was just stunned.
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I didn't know what
to say or do or whatever.
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Steve also phoned
his family with the tragic news
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about Rhonda.
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Steve Nichols called his
own father to break the news
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about what had happened.
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He was so overwhelmed with
emotion and floods of tears
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that his dad could barely
understand what he was saying.
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He was hysterical at this
point, saying, Rhonda's dead,
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she's fallen.
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She slipped on ice
and fell off the edge.
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Reeling from
the devastating news
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about his sister, Jeff
headed over to his
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and Rhonda's mother's house.
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Everybody was there,
and she had Rhonda's daughter,
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and I was trying
to focus on being
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strategic and staying
level-headed because everyone
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was super upset.
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They were just distraught.
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I mean, they were in disbelief.
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And so the sheriff's
department came
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and was telling us a little
bit about what had happened.
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Yeah, that was, uh, how
I found out that night.
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In March 2009, after
Rhonda Casto had fallen 150
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to her death while hiking with
her partner Steve Nichols,
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Steve talked to police
about what had happened.
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Steve's account was that
Rhonda had slipped and fallen
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because she was running around
pretending to be Supergirl
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with a towel around her neck.
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But other
aspects of Steve's story
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began to arouse suspicion.
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His calm
demeanor, the way
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he was answering questions
about what happened on the day
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and in the build-up just
weren't quite adding up.
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After Rhonda had fallen,
it took Steve an hour
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and a half to make
the call to 911.
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Steve said that it took him
over an hour to scramble
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down to where
Rhonda's body was,
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and then he began
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation
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on her.
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He claimed also that he
laid down on top of her
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and took a nap.
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Can
this be explained by--
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by him being
in a state of shock?
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In a state of shock,
yes, you're
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confused, trying to work
out what's happening,
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but you would also be
overwhelmed by the need
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to get emergency help
as quickly as possible.
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The idea that you
might just be stuck
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in a state of absolute
inertia for an hour and a half
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when a loved one is
desperately needing assistance
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makes no sense.
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Another detail that jumped
out about this 911 call was
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that Steve seemed more
concerned about his own
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well-being, that he had deemed
Rhonda was already dead,
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and he was more concerned
about the authorities
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coming to help him.
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Police
arriving on the scene
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were struck by how Steve seemed
to be relatively calm, and
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more concerned with needing
a blanket for himself
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than what had
happened to Rhonda.
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Here we have someone whose
focus is utterly egocentric,
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even in this moment
of Rhonda's death.
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He seems to have no
sense that he needs even
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to pretend to care about other
people, let alone genuinely
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showing any empathy
for the situation.
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There's an absence
of-- of awareness
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of anyone other than himself.
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In emergency
situations, yes, there's
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a self-protective drive
that comes to the surface,
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but more powerful is the drive
to protect those that you love.
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So this bias he's showing
towards his own comfort
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rather than what has happened
to Rhonda is remarkable.
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Another detail that jumped
out about this hike that day
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were the conditions.
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It
was horrendous weather.
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That time of year is known
in the gorge for being
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windy, rainy.
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There was some ice.
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Snow can come up suddenly.
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Why would this couple
go up on a really
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advanced hike in such
treacherous,
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dangerous conditions?
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Hood
River County Police
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also had questions over the
positioning of Rhonda's body.
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When the police
arrived, Steve
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had claimed that Rhonda's body
was right next to the river,
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but when they found her, she
was around 100 feet away,
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and it was really hard
for them to work out
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where exactly she had fallen.
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He claimed that
he gave her CPR.
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Mr. Nichols couldn't
have given her
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CPR because she was found
face down and in no realm,
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in no world do you ever
give someone CPR face down.
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Also, there were
no marks or tracks
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found near Rhonda's body, and
this suggested that her body
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hadn't been moved.
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Detectives
questioned friends and family
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about Rhonda and Steve,
only to discover
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that their relationship had
been rocky from the very start.
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When her and Steve first went
out on an official date-date
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with, you know, him and his
friends and all that,
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he ignored her
the whole time, and his
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friends picked up
on it, and he ended
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up making her cry that night.
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He just was very condescending.
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It was the constant
undercurrent of manipulation
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and being cold and distant
and flirting with other women,
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making her cry
on dates, ignoring her,
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being mean to her.
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And things only got worse
once their daughter was born.
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He basically destroyed
her identity internally.
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He broke her down.
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I'm aware of maybe two or three
times where it got physical.
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She actually did send me
photos of bruises on her back
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from him tackling
her at their condo.
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And I remember
confronting Steve over it,
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over the phone, and him
basically laughing it away
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and saying, oh, well,
you know how she gets.
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Steve's version of how
the relationship was
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was very different.
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He said there was no discontent
between the two of them,
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and actually, he
had been planning
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to propose to Rhonda that day.
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And when the police questioned
him, well, where's the ring?
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He suggested maybe it
had fallen in the river.
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But according to Jeff,
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even Rhonda had her doubts
about Steve's intentions
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on the hike.
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The hike was
planned at least a week
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or two in advance.
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It stuck in my mind that
Rhonda had said something
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to me and my grandma.
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She said it sort
of irreverently,
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jokingly-- but she's
like, well, you know,
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Steve's either going to kill me
or he's going to propose to me.
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After hearing
conflicting reports
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about the state of Rhonda
and Steve's relationship,
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detectives hoped Rhonda's
autopsy report would
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provide more information.
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Two days after her death,
Rhonda's autopsy results
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were quite surprising.
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Rhonda's pelvis
was shattered.
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This suggests that she had,
in fact landed on her feet,
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not headfirst.
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These autopsy results
seemed to support
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Steve's version of events
that Rhonda had fallen
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or she jumped.
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The injuries didn't
show any signs
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of an altercation between
the two beforehand,
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and no signs of foul play.
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The autopsy also found
traces of marijuana
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and some prescription
medication in Rhonda's body.
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And although Steve had
suggested she was acting high,
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there wasn't enough
traces of the drugs
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in her system to suggest that
she'd been out of control.
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The coroner
classified Rhonda's cause
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of death as multiple
blunt force
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injuries, which were consistent
with a fall from over 150 feet.
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The manner of death was
listed as undetermined.
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Police suspected foul play,
but without witnesses or
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any physical evidence,
Rhonda's case stalled and
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Steve moved away with
their young daughter
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to live with his
family in Bend, Oregon.
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When Steve
Nichols moved on with his life,
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Rhonda's mother,
Julia, was still
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convinced that there had been
a reason why her daughter died,
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and she was convinced that
that was because of money.
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Julia claimed that Steve
had lost a lot of money
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in the 2008
financial crash, and
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that he was trying to claim
some of these funds
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back by claiming life insurance
money from Rhonda's death.
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A few months
before Rhonda died,
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Steve had taken out life
insurance policies for him and
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Rhonda, worth $1 million each.
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Steve claimed that Rhonda
was the one pressuring
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him to take out
this life insurance,
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but Rhonda's family
disputed this.
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They say it was Steve
who put the pressure on.
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I mean, Rhonda wouldn't even
have known all the nitty gritty
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behind terms and, you
know, double indemnity,
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accidental death
clauses and all that.
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So absolutely, Steve
was behind the policy.
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Just 10 days after Rhonda's
death, Steve put in a claim
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for the life insurance money.
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The detectives found
this suspicious,
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so they asked
for the money to be
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withheld while the
investigation was unfolding.
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But due to the lack
of physical evidence,
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the case ground to a halt.
Over the next two years,
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Rhonda's mother grew frustrated
at the lack of progress,
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and in a bid to stop Steve from
claiming the life insurance
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money, opened a civil case.
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In 2011, Julia
contacted a law firm
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and she managed to get
a really tenacious
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investigator known as Dardie
Robinson, to take on the case.
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The primary impetus for me
to get involved in this
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was that there was a baby
of about a year and a half old
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who was purportedly
in the custody of the man
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who had murdered her mother.
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That deserved a look.
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When Dardie began
to investigate Steve's past,
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she was astounded.
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Nichols had been
previously married.
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I learned that he had given up
custody of his prior daughter.
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I learned that Mr.
Nichols had attempted
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to throw his prior
wife off the balcony
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of a high rise in China.
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Investigators
also discovered
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he had sexually assaulted one
of Rhonda's relatives, who
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was a minor, and then tried
to convince her that she could
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become his baby's mother.
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If this were true, this
would be the kind of behavior
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you would expect from
somebody with a psychopathic
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personality, somebody
who is prepared to do
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anything to achieve
their own objectives.
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Dardie felt convinced
that Rhonda's death was
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no accident, and that
the civil case she was building
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against Steve would, in fact,
be strong enough to be tried
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as a criminal case in court.
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In 2012, three years
after Rhonda's death,
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Dardie took her findings to
the district attorney's office.
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In 25
years of prosecuting,
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I had never been brought
a case from a civil law firm.
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Dardie and her
attorney that she
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was working with
at the time presented us
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with additional
materials that he thought
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would warrant a second
look, and I agreed.
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Getting the case
reviewed by Carrie
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was extremely important because
while we couldn't do anything
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for Rhonda, there was this
vulnerable young child who
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deserved protection,
and she was
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in the custody of the potential
murderer of her mother.
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The circumstances
around Mr. Nichols,
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I believe causing
the death of Rhonda Casto,
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assaulted my conscience
when I would think
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about him profiting off
of the million-dollar
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insurance policy.
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I believed that his daughter
needed protection from him
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and that he was
a dangerous person,
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and that if I didn't try to at
least find some justice, that
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would hopefully lead
to the protection
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of Rhonda Casto's
daughter, I wouldn't really
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be able to live with myself.
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I at least needed to try.
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After
Rhonda Casto had
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fallen to her death
in 2009, the investigation
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into whether or not she was
pushed by her partner Steve
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had gone cold.
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Four years later, the district
attorney's office was
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still looking into the case.
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Meanwhile, Steve had moved
with his daughter to China.
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Steve soon established
a new life in China.
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He got a job teaching English
to businessmen out there.
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He met a new partner
and they soon got engaged.
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Back in Oregon,
deputy district attorney
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Carrie Rasmussen and her
team were slowly building
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a case against Steve Nichols.
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For a prosecutor, it's
always difficult to pick up
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a cold case.
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Part of it is you need to take
a new look at the old evidence,
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and then decide where
follow-up work needs to happen.
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When you have a small county
district attorney's office
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and small law
enforcement offices,
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the burden is even greater.
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And so all of us had
to put some of our own time
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in to figure out what leads
needed to be followed,
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new interviews conducted.
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So it's really rebuilding
the whole case from scratch.
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You're going
to have to persuade,
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you know, a jury
of 12 people to find
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beyond a reasonable doubt
that a homicide happened.
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And that's very difficult
in a circumstantial evidence
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case with no witnesses.
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So what you're
really looking at
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are multiple circumstances
that add up to a finding
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that he was responsible.
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Collecting
testimony that
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supported Steve's history
of questionable behavior,
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known as bad acts, was critical
to the success of the case.
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Detectives needed
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to contact various
partners and an ex-wife
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and the family of Ms. Casto
about what they experienced
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at the hands of Mr. Nichols.
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They had important
information to give
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us to consider
whether or not we
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could provide enough evidence
to the grand jury to consider.
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But as the new
case began to gain momentum,
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Carrie and Dardie came up
against a surprising setback.
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What materialized is that the
lead detective on Rhonda's case
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had intentionally
wiped his hard drive.
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This resulted in the loss
of key evidence
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like crime scene photos
and autopsy photos.
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The reasons
the hard drive was wiped
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00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,680
have always remained unclear.
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But what was very
clear was that it
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was going to have a huge
impact on Rhonda's case.
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The destruction of evidence
by the first detective
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from 2009 was
a devastating blow.
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That's almost impossible
to surmount four a prosecutor.
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But I was willing to try.
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They took the hard
drive and they
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were able to resurrect
some-- not
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all, but some of the evidence.
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Most importantly, pictures
of the crime scene.
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And we believed that given
evidence of motive and intent
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and the evidence that we
were able to resurrect
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from the deleted hard drive,
that we had enough to let
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a grand jury consider it.
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Carrie
presented the case
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to a grand jury,
who would decide
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if there was enough evidence
to indict Steve for the murder
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00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:08,039
of Rhonda Casto.
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Proceedings were held
in secret to avoid
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alerting Steve
to the investigation
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and risk him never
returning to the US.
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On April 18, 2014, the jury
made their decision and
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Steve Nichols was indicted.
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It was a total shock when
I heard he was indicted.
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I never thought that
the case would be revived.
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I had already given
up on any kind of hope
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for that to happen.
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All
the prosecutors had
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to do was wait
for Steve Nichols
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to return from China
so he could be arrested.
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Towards the end
of February 2015,
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Mr. Nichols flew back
to the United States
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to California in order
to renew his child's passport.
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00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,519
Steve and the child landed
at San Francisco airport.
498
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,920
He was immediately arrested the
minute they saw his passport.
499
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,720
It triggered
the secret indictment.
500
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,000
The child was taken
into protective custody,
501
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,279
and he was taken to the San
Mateo County Jail charged
502
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,319
with first-degree murder.
503
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,880
Steve Nichols
was arrested on February 2,
504
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:17,319
2015, almost six years after
Rhonda fell to her death
505
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,880
in 2009.
506
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,079
He was interviewed
by detectives
507
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,160
and detained at Northern Oregon
Regional Correctional Facility,
508
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,119
awaiting a date to face
charges in court.
509
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,119
When I heard
that Steve had been arrested,
510
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:39,640
I was stunned and I was
grateful that their daughter
511
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:40,880
was away from him.
512
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:43,079
It was a big mix of emotions.
513
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,160
I felt Steve facing trial
for murder was justified.
514
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:49,680
I was cautiously optimistic,
but really kind of skeptical
515
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:51,880
that he would be
punished for it.
516
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:56,599
In May 2015, three
months after Steve's arrest,
517
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:59,680
he appeared in court where
he pleaded not guilty
518
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:01,680
to the charge of murder.
519
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:07,200
Bail was set at $2 million and
he was detained to await trial.
520
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,720
Meanwhile,
prosecutors continued
521
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,359
to build on their theory
that he had
522
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:13,839
pushed Rhonda to her death.
523
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:16,680
But the lack
of physical evidence
524
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:19,039
meant it wasn't
going to be easy.
525
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,680
I was preparing
526
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:24,079
to deliver a murder case based
on circumstantial evidence.
527
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,319
They're very tough.
528
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,279
It is not a slam dunk case.
529
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,920
There was no direct witness
to him causing her death.
530
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:36,240
There's no physical evidence
of him placing his hands
531
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,880
on her, for instance.
532
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:40,039
There's nobody
hearing an argument.
533
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,759
So there are all
sorts of circumstances
534
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,920
around that show motive,
intent, maybe even planning.
535
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,759
The key elements were
the circumstances
536
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,319
surrounding the death itself,
statements that Mr. Nichols had
537
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,759
made at the scene,
which were concerning,
538
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,519
statements that he
made after the scene,
539
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,519
his behaviors towards others
that pointed to his motivation
540
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,000
in the case.
541
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,119
Circumstances around the
million-dollar insurance policy
542
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:18,319
taken out two months earlier
on his girlfriend's life.
543
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,839
Circumstances involving
his attempted assault,
544
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,279
if not homicide,
allegedly in Shanghai.
545
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,799
And when you put the whole
picture together,
546
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,079
that points to only one
person who caused her death.
547
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,480
To strengthen
their case,
548
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,640
Carrie and the investigators
decided
549
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:47,079
to reenact the fatal
fall at Eagle Creek
550
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,200
in the hope of providing
further evidence
551
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,960
that Rhonda was pushed.
552
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,119
We
conducted the reenactment
553
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:56,119
in March of 2015.
554
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,319
A reenactment with
experts is something
555
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:05,039
that I routinely do in my cases
to see in real-world terms what
556
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,759
happens, what is going
to happen, what can be seen,
557
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,759
where something will land.
558
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,240
And in this case, you had
somebody who's claiming
559
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,240
that there was just a fall.
560
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,160
I got two dummies,
Laverne and Shirley,
561
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:21,720
that were the exact same weight
as Rhonda was at the time,
562
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,799
and dressed them in exactly
the same clothing
563
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,400
so that we would have
the same types of drag.
564
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:29,559
OK, ready?
565
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,440
One, two, three.
566
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,880
We
did several test runs,
567
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:44,440
replicating the weather,
the season, the foliage,
568
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,200
the time of day,
the trail conditions,
569
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:49,720
the force that it
required to launch
570
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,759
a 140-pound person so that
they would land in that area.
571
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,079
We had the Hood
River County Sheriff.
572
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,319
We had sheriff's deputies,
search and rescue.
573
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,319
We had FBI, people
there filming,
574
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,480
you know, to documenting
this whole thing.
575
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,279
Will help stand her up.
576
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,960
And then we're going
to give her a deed.
577
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,279
Well,
the overall findings
578
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,480
were if she jumped
or if she ran off the edge,
579
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,559
she would never have landed
that far from the cliff.
580
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,680
Number one.
581
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:31,400
Number two, it
required a forceful
582
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,480
shove to get her out that far.
583
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,599
Number three, when
she was out that far,
584
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:39,839
her leg broke open
in the same way
585
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,920
that Rhonda's leg broke open.
586
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:46,079
It was just heartbreaking
because by the time
587
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,480
we were done, you
knew what happened.
588
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:53,440
Whether it qualified
589
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:56,680
as appropriate demonstrative
or scientific evidence,
590
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,319
that was going to be
yet another battle
591
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,039
about whether we could
even assert that to a jury.
592
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,799
That was another
uncertainty in the case.
593
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:10,599
In August 2015,
Steve Nichols appeared in court
594
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:12,799
again for a bail hearing.
595
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,079
Every defendant
596
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640
has the right
to contest their bail,
597
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:21,920
and the judge reviewed
the state of the evidence
598
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:24,680
as it was at that
point in time.
599
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:26,839
The biggest dispute
is always going
600
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,160
to be a circumstantial
evidence case, and
601
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,119
the weight of those
circumstances,
602
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,240
or how much weight should be
given to those circumstances.
603
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,720
Steve Nichols'
defense called into question
604
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,160
the scientific rigor
of the prosecution's
605
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:44,839
crash test dummy
experiment, claiming
606
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,119
the tests were inaccurate.
607
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,359
The evidence in the state's
case was weaker,
608
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:54,359
and the judge, weighing
everything in its totality,
609
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:57,480
agreed to lower his bail to
an amount that he could post.
610
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,480
The judge lowered
Steve Nichols bail to $250,000.
611
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,880
And after a 10% payment of
$25,000 made by his attorney,
612
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:12,960
Steve was released from
prison with an ankle monitor.
613
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:17,319
Steve continued
to await his day
614
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,759
in court while pretrial
disputes rumbled on.
615
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,519
Over the course
of the next few months,
616
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,279
they went back and forth,
arguing between the defense and
617
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,839
the prosecution about
what evidence should
618
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,799
be included in this trial.
619
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Carrie wanted evidence
about Steve's past
620
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,160
to be included in the trial.
621
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:37,920
These are called
prior bad acts,
622
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,799
and they helped paint a picture
of someone's character.
623
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,799
These prior bad acts
included an allegation
624
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,880
that he tried
to throw his ex-wife
625
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,799
off a balcony in China,
which was allegedly
626
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,279
witnessed by a nanny.
627
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,200
I
hoped to present evidence
628
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:53,880
of the nanny in Shanghai.
629
00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:58,480
We had a transcript of her
interview by police in China.
630
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,200
I had hoped to bring
her here from China
631
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,799
to explain to the jury what
she saw and experienced.
632
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:09,920
His first wife was
willing to come forward
633
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:12,160
and testify to that event.
634
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:14,079
These
prior bad acts,
635
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,160
they also included
allegations of domestic abuse
636
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:19,599
and sexual assault
against a minor.
637
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:22,799
I believe Steve Nichols
exhibited behavior
638
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,079
towards other
domestic partners that
639
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,240
was critical
to understanding why
640
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,559
he was responsible
for the death of Rhonda Casto.
641
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,039
In February
2016, seven years
642
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,440
since Rhonda's death,
the judge ruled which bad acts
643
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:40,240
could be admitted at trial.
644
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,759
After a prior
bad acts hearing,
645
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920
the judge decided
that it would be
646
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:50,680
too prejudicial for a jury
to hear about the incident
647
00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:51,799
in Shanghai.
648
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,880
That was a huge
blow in the case,
649
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:58,880
so a jury would never
hear about his first wife.
650
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,480
So I lost all of that
evidence of intent
651
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:07,680
towards domestic partners, his
resorting to a plan of violence
652
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:11,119
that involved shoving
off of a high ledge.
653
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:12,920
So that severely
weakened the case.
654
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:16,359
But another
key ruling
655
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:19,519
was about to make a big
impact on the case,
656
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,440
regarding Steve's three hour
interview by San Mateo Police
657
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,680
following his arrest in 2015.
658
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:29,319
Those
transcripts record
659
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,960
all of his inconsistent
statements,
660
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,519
all of his first one
story, then another story.
661
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,240
He says, no, we didn't fight.
662
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,160
And then he later
says, we fought.
663
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,799
The fact that he says, no,
I didn't have my cell phone.
664
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,319
Oh, but you sent
a text from the trail.
665
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,599
And it
wasn't just what he said,
666
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:48,400
but it was his demeanor
towards the victim.
667
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,400
His, I'll dare say,
dismissiveness,
668
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:55,759
his lack of empathy, his
attitude towards the victim,
669
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,079
a lack of care,
a lack of emotion.
670
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,319
When you have
a witness who's made
671
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,119
multiple different
stories, that
672
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:04,720
should come before the jury.
673
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,400
The interview as a whole
674
00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:11,000
was important for a jury to see
his demeanor towards the event
675
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,159
and towards the victim herself.
676
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,039
After a long legal
battle, after an appeal
677
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,559
to the Oregon Supreme
Court, the prosecution
678
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,000
lost the ability
to use evidence
679
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,719
from Steve's police interview.
680
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,239
The judge determined that
the rules weren't followed and
681
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,880
said basically that
the state couldn't
682
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:33,400
use any of that interview.
683
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,079
At this point, I was pretty
concerned about getting
684
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,559
any sort of a conviction,
given the losses
685
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,920
in court of various
critical pieces of evidence.
686
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,079
And the state's
case against Steve
687
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,079
was about to be
struck another blow.
688
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,719
The first person who
talked to Mr. Nichols
689
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,519
at Eagle Creek, that
detective, was himself
690
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,559
indicted for sex abuse crimes.
691
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,960
I had one detective
destroying evidence.
692
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:08,239
And then the jury was
going to hear, likely,
693
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,920
that the first detective on the
scene interviewing Mr. Nichols
694
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,480
was now he himself charged
with felony sex abuse.
695
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:22,400
And so things just didn't get
better for the state's case.
696
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,840
I think it was a difficult
case at the outset.
697
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,800
It became much more
difficult with rulings
698
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,480
that went against
the state eliminated
699
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:34,239
evidence that I could use.
700
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,000
There is a cliche
of death by 1,000 cuts,
701
00:35:39,159 --> 00:35:44,639
and the criminal case suffered
quite a few of those cuts.
702
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,960
With challenges
to the state's case mounting,
703
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,119
Carrie and her team
faced an uphill battle
704
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,320
to secure a murder
conviction against Nichols.
705
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,559
After a number of significant
pretrial setbacks
706
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,679
in the state's case against
Steve Nichols for the murder
707
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,280
of Rhonda Casto,
Carrie and her team
708
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,920
knew their chances of getting
a murder conviction
709
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,679
were growing increasingly slim.
710
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,920
In early 2017, two years
since Steve's arrest,
711
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,320
they reluctantly
decided to negotiate
712
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,559
with Steve's defense
team to see if they
713
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,599
could reach a settlement.
714
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,559
In all of the settlement
conferences
715
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,840
I've ever engaged
in, no one is happy.
716
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,239
The prosecution is not happy
with the limited justice
717
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,360
that they obtain.
718
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,599
The defense is not
happy because they
719
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,719
want a not-guilty verdict.
720
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,000
After a settlement
conference that
721
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,880
was mediated by a judge
in the spring of 2017,
722
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:48,079
we came to a resolution
of the case.
723
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,320
Steve pleaded
guilty to criminally negligent
724
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:56,400
homicide and coercion and was
sentenced to 19 months,
725
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:59,000
plus three years on probation.
726
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:01,800
Criminally negligent
homicide means
727
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,760
Steve was guilty of causing
Rhonda's death, in this case,
728
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,320
taking her on that dangerous
hike in dangerous conditions
729
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,679
and failing
to protect her safety.
730
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,079
Coercion indicates that he may
have illegally pressured or
731
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000
coerced Rhonda,
and may or may not
732
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:23,320
have tricked her into going
on that fatal hike that day.
733
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,559
While there was plenty
of suspicion and circumstantial
734
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,760
evidence, the state
failed to reach
735
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,159
the high burden of proof
needed for murder in this case.
736
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,079
Steve also pleaded guilty to
sex abuse in the third degree
737
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,400
for sleeping with Rhonda's
underage relation.
738
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,880
He was then placed on a sex
offenders register.
739
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,760
Following
his sentencing,
740
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,159
Steve received credit
for the 19 months
741
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,800
he'd already spent behind bars.
742
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,719
With no time left
to serve, he was released.
743
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,880
One of my great
disappointments
744
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:03,559
is that Mr. Nichols did not
receive additional prison time.
745
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,000
But some justice is
better than no justice.
746
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,519
And so the energy that
I put into the case,
747
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:14,039
while it wasn't
the end result that I--
748
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:16,239
the outset was
hoping for, I'm very
749
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,119
gratified that we got some
justice for Rhonda Casto and
750
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,400
her family.
751
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:23,079
My family's reaction
to the sentencing
752
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,280
was anger
and frustration, you know,
753
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,639
and just a sense
of helplessness and almost like
754
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,000
being retraumatized all
over again, honestly.
755
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,159
I was angry and I
felt offended,
756
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,679
and I felt like it
was just another slap
757
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,639
in the face to the whole
family and Rhonda's memory.
758
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,719
And I just felt like
the whole thing was foul,
759
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,960
and not because he
didn't get punished,
760
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,679
but because it was being
framed as an accident.
761
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:54,639
In March
2018, a judge
762
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,880
terminated Steve's
custody over his daughter.
763
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:01,199
She has since been adopted
by a loving family.
764
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Her mother's insurance
money remains in a trust
765
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:05,760
to provide for her future.
766
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,280
So when the adoption was
finalized for their daughter,
767
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,440
I was there the day they had
the court hearing, you know,
768
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,639
and the full foster family was
there, and it was celebratory
769
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,079
and all that.
770
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,920
I'm coming up the sidewalk
and I'm at the corner
771
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:20,199
of the courthouse.
772
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,280
And who do I see
standing at the entrance,
773
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,000
maybe 50 feet away from me?
774
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:26,119
Steve.
775
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,760
There he is.
776
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,599
I could charge at him
and, you know what I mean?
777
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,159
It would have been
over for both of us.
778
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,320
We're both going to jail
or prison, hospital, whatever.
779
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,800
But I didn't do anything.
780
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,199
I didn't even speak to him,
but we made eye contact,
781
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,760
and, you know, um, it
still was surreal to me
782
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,320
even just being able to see
him much less him walking free.
783
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,760
The only bright spot
is that her daughter
784
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,079
is safe and, you know, has
been with decent people.
785
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,079
This case has eaten
15 years of my life.
786
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,079
That's how long I've
been involved with this.
787
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,000
Rhonda didn't get justice.
788
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:10,719
What we were trying to do,
ultimately, was to protect
789
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,960
her child, her legacy.
790
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,159
This has been a mission.
791
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,320
A lot of blood,
sweat, and tears
792
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:24,400
into trying to see that
this young girl had a life.
793
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,440
We can't give her back her
mom, but I hope that she
794
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:33,360
goes on to have a good life.
795
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:36,559
The victim's daughter
is now in a safe home
796
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,800
and is growing up with
a much different family
797
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,840
than she would have.
798
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,119
That's important to me.
799
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,840
So that alone
makes it worth it.
800
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,400
Do I think that Rhonda
got perfect justice?
801
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:51,199
Absolutely not.
802
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,039
I think she got the justice
she would have wanted
803
00:40:56,199 --> 00:40:58,400
for her daughter, that
her daughter was not
804
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:02,159
raised by the man
responsible for her death,
805
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,480
and also that it should
only be her daughter that
806
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:08,239
benefits from
the insurance money
807
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,360
due to her death,
not anybody else.
808
00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:15,039
And I'm hopeful that her loved
ones saw that that result
809
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:16,559
was important.
810
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:22,360
Dardie and Carrie Rasmussen
deserve a ton of credit.
811
00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:24,639
They are the ones
that blocked Steve
812
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,320
from getting his
hands on the money
813
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,760
and got the grand jury hearing,
and him indicted and all that.
814
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,000
So yes, I am grateful
to them for sure.
815
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:37,320
They really put a lot
of effort into all this
816
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,760
and really wanted
to see justice
817
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,239
for Rhonda and her
daughter, even though things
818
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,159
didn't turn out ideally.
819
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,760
After
Steve was sentenced,
820
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,840
he continued to do lots
and lots of TV appearances,
821
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,440
sit down at interviews, and his
story just continued to change.
822
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:59,639
The TV appearances suggest
a lack of-- of any kind
823
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,199
of remorse at all,
or even understanding
824
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,000
of the suffering of Rhonda,
of her family, of his daughter.
825
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,760
It illustrates somebody
who is utterly egocentric,
826
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,000
somebody who really
sees things purely
827
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,400
from his own
perspective, who is
828
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:21,360
prepared to turn
any circumstances
829
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:22,800
to his own advantage.
830
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,320
Even a criminal conviction
he's using as a platform
831
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,159
to-- to become a celebrity.
832
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,280
It's like he's living
his own big adventure.
833
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,440
And what happened to Rhonda
was-- is a footnote in--
834
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:36,480
in his big life story.
835
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,079
Today, 16 years
on from Rhonda's tragic death,
836
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,280
Jeff's memories of his
sister still shine bright.
837
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,519
It's hard to put
into words what
838
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:53,800
a phenomenal
individual that she was
839
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,760
and what an impact it's
had her being gone.
840
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,320
The last time I spoke
to Rhonda, she was at my house
841
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,639
with her daughter being
silly, goofy humor
842
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,039
and playing with the kids.
843
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,920
Rhonda was a great person.
844
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,039
We all loved her and she really
was the glue in our family.
845
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:12,079
What's important going
forward right now
846
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,559
is that people know
the truth, that Steve Nichols
847
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,599
is a dangerous person,
and that Rhonda's daughter
848
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,559
knows the full truth
about what happened.
849
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,719
But I feel almost
more importantly
850
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,199
to know how much Rhonda loved
her and was dedicated to her.
851
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,239
Rhonda loved her with
everything she had.
852
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,239
It was her life.
853
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,400
It was her anchor.
854
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:37,360
It was her newfound
purpose in life.
855
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,719
Ultimately, that's probably
the most valuable thing
856
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,320
that I could do to honor
Rhonda's memory,
857
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,719
is to be as active in her
daughter's life as I can.
858
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,960
I am by no means
a religious person,
859
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:53,199
but, you know, when you see
something glimmer for a second
860
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,440
or like a light bounce
off something or whatever,
861
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,039
or like you see a shiny object
and just for that split second,
862
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:00,960
you see that little, sort
of sharp edge of light
863
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:02,199
or glimmer or whatever.
864
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,440
And I like to tell
myself sometimes
865
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,079
that that's where she's at.
866
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,960
She's just right
there for a second.
867
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:11,000
Sometimes I let myself go
there and be sad about it.
868
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:14,199
But I also feel like,
you know, she's with me.
869
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,880
And so part of how I
deal with it is I just
870
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:19,000
try to honor Rhonda's memory.
69973
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