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Stuart M: We got together about a year ago to
record a record for a Glasgow college called Stow
College.
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And it's funny, because it seems to have been fated
by various different things and it's...
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l can't decide who gave a tape to who. And it all
seems to have been a devious plan
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by our drummer Richard because he heard the tape
and he was at the college and...
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he ended up being the drummer in the band... and
my flatmate.
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l still can't figure out how it happened.
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Every time there was a song on the radio it got you
in the same way
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l can remember writing to somebody afterwards and
saying
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''well y' know, l know it's yourjob but thanks for
playing that anyway because it's quite possibly the
best moment of my life.''
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Which doesn't say much about my life up to this
point.
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1995, it's just a kind of sunny wilderness.
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l can remember it was boiling hot for about four
months solid.
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But l spent it in a, pretty much a windowless, airless
concrete box
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looking at the wall with a pair of headphones on...
Dreaming about the outside world
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so maybe that's what inspired certain songs to come
along.
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l'm lsobel and l play lots of different instruments... lt
just depends what suits the songs.
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When we were asked to pick something we liked
best to show people for the television l couldn't think
of much.
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Everything l like best happens when l don't expect
it. When l plan things l get disappointed.
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lt all got very confusing and complicated for a while
but then Stuart David explained.
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He said this part was to be like 'Why Don't You'. So
this is why l'm shuffling around the Victoria Park
with my dog Aldo.
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He used to be a guide dog for the blind.
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He worked in the city and was no stranger to the
London Underground.
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Now he stays at home most days, dreaming up
fantasy dinners
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while he waits for my brother to finish school.
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This is where l bring him on days when there is
nothing to be done
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and in the summer l bring my diary. Sometimes we
feed the ducks
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but mostly we just throw sticks.
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My name's Chris. l play piano and organ in the band
Belle & Sebastian
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and l wanted to take you to Celtic Park because l've
always supported Celtic
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and it's a place l... Well l like going along to the
games.
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Last year l was doing kitchen work and stuff for this
agency and one of the jobs l was doing was
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just working in the food bits at Parkhead selling the
pies.
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When you're there watching the game, you're up at
the top and you can look down over the pitch
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and it's strange 'cause you're quite disconnected
from it. lt's like watching a game of Subbuteo or
something
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but at the same time you're dead involved in it as
well.
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The first gig we done as Belle & Sebastian was
through in Edinburgh
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and it was a bit of a shambles. That was the first
time l'd met the people from Jeepster Records as
well
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and l just remember they seemed totally, totally
insane at the time.
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l'd only justjoined the band at that point and on the
songs l didn't play on l'd sort of get up and
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just go to sit down somewhere and the woman from
Jeepster was going
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''What're you doing? What're you doing? Get back
on that stage!''
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and l'm like ''l'm not playing on this song y' know?
Just, just leave me alone''
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l'm on buses quite a lot. l just really wanted to
maybe get into the cockpit or something.
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Whether it be in the bus depot or where the buses
go to sleep at night
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just really somewhere to be as close to the buses as
possible
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and to get behind the scenes rather than being a
punter.
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Basically l've moved up the social ladder 'cause l've
got a Zonecard instead of a Bus Pass
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which gets you on the tube as well, so that's a nice
wee change but you always get drawn back to the
buses.
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Obviously when you become an experienced city
traveller like myself
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you know which ones are smelly, you know which
ones are cold
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you pretty much know the friendly drivers, and so as
long as you're not actually going anywhere specific
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then you can choose your vehicle carefully.
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My name is Richard Colburn. l play drums.
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The reason l wanted to be filmed cooking was that
l'm the most fussiest eater on Earth
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and l like about five things.
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lt's Pasta and Chicken Soup Surprise, the surprise
being that it's not very good at all.
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And l thought l'd throw in a side order of rolls with
bran flakes.
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Myself and Stuart, we live in a church hall which is
quite a bizzare place to live.
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lt's actually a flat above the church hall, and we're
actually the caretakers in a kind of way
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where we have to look after the hall and make sure
the running is good
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and we have to put tables and chairs out for coffee
mornings
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and keep the doors open for any clubs that are
coming in.
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lt's quite an unusual place to live but l suppose the
landlord must be God.
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l used to have a camera called a Zenith but l gave it
to Wee Karn and she used it
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to take photographs of pavements for a while but
when l went to get the camera back
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she said there was a bit of dirt in the lens. To make
up for it she gave me a really good pen she had.
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A Space Pen. The instructions said it was the most
advanced writing instrument in the world
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and it was designed for astronauts to use on their
way to the moon
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lt can write upside down, over grease and
fingerprints,
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in blazing heat and even under water.
So l took that.
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l wasn't planning on going to the moon but l thought
maybe l could sell it to buy a new camera.
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But it didn't turn out to be worth much
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so in the end l decided what l would do is, l would
just take photographs with the pen instead.
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l would just write the picture down, and it turned out
quite well.
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The first good thing is no one really notices when
l'm doing it
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l can watch people doing things and they just stay
natural 'cause there's no camera pointing at them
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and they don't know l'm taking their picture and that
makes the pictures better
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'cause l see people doing the craziest things.
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l'm Sarah Martin, l play violin and a couple of other
things.
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l joined the band through friends of friends just in
time for the second album to be recorded.
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l was going to climb a tree for my little sketch but l
just thought well the weather's not really
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particularly great for it and l'd probably fall out.
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And l've recently moved into a new flat and l've been
putting up a lot of shelves
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'cause l've got loads of stuff and l've just got to get it
off the floor.
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And it's become a kind of hobby. l can't stop.
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We decided to do a gig in the Mitchell Library as
part of the Mayfest in Glasgow.
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We ended up bringing another stage in which even
wasn't big enough for the whole band
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we had the band on two separate stages and it was
quite a strange gig.
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Slide shows and tables and chairs and everybody's
parents were there
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it was a kind of funny concert but it was really good
fun.
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Stuart M: You get a little tickle in your tummy and
then you start to write something down.
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To tell you the truth l can't remember writing any of
the songs really
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so that's quite lucky in a way. 'Cause l do quite like
some of them.
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Stevie: l think it's good. l think it's probably had an
effect that we're far from London.
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Which is, y' know, traditionally the, y' know, where
you go to be a musician
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or where you go to make it in the pop world.
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And l think it's been good that we've not been part
of that because maybe that makes us distinctive.
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l think there's a tendency for things to get gobbled
up in this big thing that is London y' know?
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They get... There's an expression, it's called
Londoned Up.
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People, people y' know? People start off in bands
and they go to London and they come back
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and they're Londoned Up, you can... just see it
y'know?
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Stuart: Ah cannae sing in any conventional sense of
the word.
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Chris: You can't do patter in any conventional sense
of the word either.
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Stuart: That's great... Fantastico
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l think we, l think we... We maybe don't kind of have
a terribly high production rate
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but then you hear about Seal making his third
album now.
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l think in terms of getting records out we still do. l
mean it's maybe not, l don't know
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l think it would be cool to still be banging out an
album every year
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and a few singles and stuff as well, 'cause l kind of
would,
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l kind of would enjoy being able to be that bit more
casual about music and doing it like that
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but even so it's still better than only getting to do an
album every like, three or four or five years or
something.
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Richard: l think sometimes people see the band as
being a little bit up our own arses.
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But there's other people as well, that kind of see us
as a bit mysterious and stuff
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and we've actually done quite a lot of interviews and
personally l do quite a lot.
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Stuart D: And the record company have said that
they can't see it going past
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the number of people who buy the records just now
without us doing a lot more promotion
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and l think that might be... lt won't go beyond the
numbers just because of the type of band it is.
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Stuart M: We've hit our peak y' know? As far as like,
record sales go and stuff like that, y' know? lt...
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Andy Symington: How do you know that?
Stuart M: 'Cause we, 'cause we just have.
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IsobeI: l think we've got... We've not fulfilled our
potential quite yet but
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l've no idea when that could be because it's quite...
lt's quite erratic.
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Stevie: ln the past l kinda got it from Lazy Line
Painter Jane
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and there's a new song called The Model which l
get it from.
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You can really feel a buzz from something y' know?
lt's good.
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l think 'cause we're becoming more experienced
hopefully there'll be a... Y' know?
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it'll happen less by accident and a bit more by
design
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Chris: Everytime you play something or everytime
you think about how you want a record to sound
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you've got your record collection looking over your
shoulder at you.
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Stuart M: There was a feeling against tunes
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y'know? There was definitely a feeling against songs
and melodies and that sort of stuff
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and it made you wanna actually make the most
tuneful sort of... You just explode y' know?
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and if you could find people to play with you'd make
the most tuneful, lush sounding records imaginable
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Chris: You could almost use them as some sort of...
Stuart M: Cosh.
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Chris: Well l was going to say some sort of piece of
furniture.
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Stuart M: What fucking piece of furniture
would...(laughs)
Chris: A table! a fucking table
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just put two of them...
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IsobeI: You should be on that game show thing
where they renovate peoples homes...
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Richard: l think maybe you need a break son.
Stuart M: Yeah, easy big tiger.
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Richard: My sister says lkea's gonna have a big sale
on so they're driving down to Newcastle
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it's like, better than Habitat's...
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Chris: Let's hire a van... Let's hire a van and drive
down to Newcastle and come back with furniture for
everyone.
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Richard: Furniture all round! Hey hey!
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Chris: Oh God!... l can't believe you just filmed me
saying that.
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Stuart M: We've been on this kinda trail... On this
little boy scout trail
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to try and find the perfect sound or the perfect
acoustic or the perfect way of working
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and there is no... There certainly is no perfect way of
working. We've made some pretty messy records.
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But we've made some alright sounds as well.
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Mick: l've not actually been at a church hall, full
church hall recording session.
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The quality of the recordings that have been done
there definitely have a certain feel, certainly adds a
lot to it.
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l think Lazy Line Painter Jane sounds great
recorded in the church hall.
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What sort of people do you think you appeal to?
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Stuart M: Bowlies.
Richard: Thirtysomethings.
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Sarah: Apparently we appeal to fiftysomethings in a
little... a little record shop
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sort ofjoined into a music and instrument shop in
Blackburn.
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Stevie: l've come across so many people over thirty
that like us.
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And even at gigs l've noticed a lot of them y' know?
So l don't really think we're a...
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total teenage bowlie group.
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IsobeI: lt's not like Boyzone or something, there's a
lot of, kind of, l don't know, thirtysomething?
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Or even people a lot older and there's quite young
people, like kids at school l think quite like it
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and then there's some quite strange people that
quite like it
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there's students that like it and l think there's like,
sort of, someone said
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that at one of the gigs at Shepherd's Bush there
was quite a few like, business men.
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Stuart D: lt does quite often seem to be people that
are quite alone
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or feel isolated from the, sort of, mainstream.
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l've nieces and nephews that are just about five or
six they'll put it on to dance around to as well.
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Ladies and Gentlemen. The winner is...
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Belle & Sebastian.
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Belle & Sebastian, a band that actually formed in an
all night caf� in Glasgow.
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Now the band began working together as part of a
Government training scheme
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and their third album, they're already on that one,
The Boy With The Arab Strap
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that reached number one in the lndie Charts.
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Hi. This is Belle, l'm Sebastian. Well we are tonight,
The rest of the band are in the studio
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but, em, well don't know if this was meant to
happen or not but pretty bizarre anyway but, em,
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thanks to Jeepster who're sitting in the corner and,
eh, bizarre night. Thanks a lot.
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lt turned out to be a successful evening for the little
known Glasgow band Belle & Sebastian.
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They picked up the award for Best British
Newcomers
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but they were so sure they wouldn't win only two of
them bothered to make the trip to the ceremony.
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l had strict instructions to get autographs from
various people for my friends
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and that's basically the whole idea for us coming
down.
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ln Glasgow it was business as usual for the other six
who prefer to stay home
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and get on with mixing their fourth album than rub
shoulders with the glitterati in London.
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They did, however, manage to take time out to
watch their success being broadcast on lunchtime
Scotland Today.
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l think they'll be a lot more, l don't know, animated
or something than probably most of us would have
been
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and my mum would have killed me as well for not
wearing a dress on telly or something.
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l'm glad the two of them went, it was only when l
found out Richard was
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sat at a table next to Muhammad Ali that l really
wished l'd, that l really wished l'd went.
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So what's a normal day like for you whenever you're
not recording?
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As a Rock Star?
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Do you consider yourself a Rock Star?
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