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Nobody could have foreseen
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anything like this happening.
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The cops go inside
and the first thing they sense
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is the smell of blood.
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Why these four
college students?
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Why would he do this?
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Ever since
this happened,
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I've locked my door
every single night.
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Why this
terrible thing happened?
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Why somebody could do
something so awful?
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Someone do
this horrific crime
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and they're still out there.
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There's a crazy person out
there with a knife.
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Who knows
when he's going to stop.
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This person
is still on the loose.
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The fear was so visceral
and real.
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This house right here is where
police found four bodies.
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And later that day,
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The University
of Idaho confirmed
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that they were U of I students.
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Moscow is a college town,
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so we have a very
different demographic
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than is present
in the rest of the state.
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We skew way younger.
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We've got a lot of people in
the 18 to 24/25-year-old range,
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and then a lot of retirees,
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a lot of people come here
just because
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of the college
atmosphere we have.
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There's a lot of culture,
arts activities,
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things that go with
college towns.
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And so a lot of people come
here just for that and retire.
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The mountains are surrounding,
capped in snow.
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The rivers are running wild
and free, so to speak.
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There's scent of sage
in the air in summertime.
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In the wintertime there's
the smell of cinnamon
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in all the coffee shops.
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Very cosy kind of place.
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The University of Idaho,
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like many other universities
in the United States,
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has what we call a Greek system.
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These are large houses that are
in the middle of campus,
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where students can pledge
their allegiance
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or decide to live on campus
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At many universities we have
the fraternities and sororities,
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these big Greek houses.
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For somebody who
is actually in college,
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what a fraternity or sorority
means is this social circle.
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They have lots of formals,
social activities.
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It's a really good way
for students
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to make friends right away.
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Fraternities,
sororities, houses.
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It all means Greek life.
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All these students were living
on what we call Greek Row.
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This street
of all these giant houses.
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Greek life is pretty strong
on campus.
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It's definitely the biggest
of the housing communities.
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The dorms socialise
with each other
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and the off campus people
are together and that.
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But I mean,
frats and sororities are really,
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they were the core of all of
like the social events.
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Any major event that was
actually going to get students
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there was organised
by Greek Life.
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There's always something going
on every weekend night.
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There's always parties and it's
not animal House or anything.
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There are rules and stuff, supposedly.
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There was some article
that came out ten years ago,
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that named U Idaho the top
party school in the nation,
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so that gives you an idea.
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As soon as you're initiated
into the, the organisation,
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you have this family who...
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I mean, they call each other
brothers and sisters.
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Being there
and being with everyone,
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I mean, that's kind of
my favourite part
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about being in college was
the community that we all had.
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It sounded like the ultimate
college experience.
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Hi, my name is Xana Kernodle.
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I'm a marketing major here
at the University of Idaho.
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Uh, this is actually King Street
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where I've lived
the past two years.
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And I really like just hanging
out with my friends all the time
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and being super-involved
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in school events
and everything else.
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So yeah, that's just
a little bit about me
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and I'm really excited
to take on this course.
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The King Road area is a
stone's throw away from
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the actual University
of Idaho campus border.
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It's a very popular area for
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off-campus housing
of college students.
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They're all primarily
rental homes
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that college students
typically reside in
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due to its close location
to the university.
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At 1122 King Road,
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there were a group
of girls all living together.
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There were five girls living
in this house,
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Kaylee Goncalves,
Madison Mogan, Dylan Mortenson,
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Bethany Funk, and Xana Kernodle.
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Ethan Chapin was the
boyfriend of Xana Kernodle.
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And he was part
of the Sigma Chi fraternity.
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It really seemed like
Xana and Ethan
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had found the perfect match.
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The King Road house,
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it was really that kind of house
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where they were coming
and going.
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The girls living in it,
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and they had people coming and
going from their house as well.
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It sounded like
a total revolving door.
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All young,
right in the middle of college.
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I mean, they were partying
with their friends,
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but they were also
going to class.
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They were close to graduating.
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They were getting
all of their work done.
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They were making plans
for their future,
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who they were going to be,
where they were going to go.
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When you're in college,
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it feels like your whole
life is ahead of you.
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It feels like the beginning
of the rest of your life.
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You do feel
that sense of safety,
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like you're around
so many other young people.
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It's just one
of those communities that
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nothing bad can happen
to you here.
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In the weeks leading up
to Thanksgiving break,
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everything's on track,
the students are doing great,
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they're having fun.
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They're excited
about Thanksgiving break.
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Kaylie's even set
to graduate in like a month.
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Everything's perfect.
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And then everything changes.
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It was Saturday in November,
you know,
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so it's a little too late
for the farmers market,
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but still, the shops were open.
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Downtown's busy.
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The town is alive with
all the students biking around.
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It's busy.
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People come to visit their kids,
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see how they're doing
in college.
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It seemed like any other normal
weekend that Moscow's ever had.
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The beautiful golden
leaves have started to fall
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all over campus.
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The days are getting shorter.
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It's getting darker earlier,
but it's football season.
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The Vandal football team,
very big.
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It's a big culture here.
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On November 12th,
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the University
of Idaho football team
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had a football game
against UC Davis.
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So we as officers, I actually
worked that football game.
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It was a normal typical
Saturday night for our college.
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I mean, there were different
parties up on campus.
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A lot of the kids who go
to the games or just attend
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the university on game day,
they have a tendency to party.
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They go to different functions
where they drink.
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They just hang out
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well before the game,
whether it's at houses,
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fraternities or sororities
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or tailgating in the parking lot
up at our stadium.
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And so it's just
a normal typical day.
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At the end of the game,
the fog had rolled in,
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the temperature
had dropped a little bit
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and it was just kind of eerie.
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I remember walking out
of the dome just going,
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huh, this is kind of weird.
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You know, this kind
of has a weird feeling to it.
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That evening,
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all the roommates
had been hanging out.
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Kaylee, who had actually
already graduated and moved out,
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had come to town to show off
her new car to her roommates.
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They were
all hanging out,
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and they're smiling,
and they all look very happy.
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And Kaylee had posted
that saying
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that these were her people
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and she was grateful
for her people.
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That photo is embedded
into everyone's memory
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because it was the last
photo they all took together.
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They made plans to go out
that evening.
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There was a formal
at the Sigma Chi fraternity
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that Ethan attended
with his sister.
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His girlfriend at the time,
Xana Kernodle, came with him.
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Madison Mogen
and Kaylee Goncalves
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went out to the Corner Club,
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a well-known sports bar
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right at the end
of Main Street in Moscow,
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where a lot of the
Greek students hang out.
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They had a good time there.
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They were there until the
early morning hours.
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Once that concluded,
they walked down to the,
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more of the central area of town
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near what we call
Friendship Square,
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where a food truck
named the Grub Truck
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was, is commonly posted
for the early morning hours
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to capture the individuals
who were leaving
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the drinking establishments
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so they can get a bite
to eat before they go home.
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And that's exactly what Kaylee
and Madison did.
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They went there and,
and ordered food
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and then were given a ride home
back to the King Street home.
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Xana and Ethan were over
at Ethan's fraternity.
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He was a member
of the Sigma Chi fraternity,
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which is,
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you could see from
the King Street house,
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you could see the
Sigma Chi house.
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It's that close.
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It's almost
a stone's throw away.
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They had been over there
for a function
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and also returned back
to the home
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in the early morning hours
of the 13th.
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They all stayed
up together too.
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They were talking
in Kaylee's room
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before they went
their separate ways.
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The two other
roommates,
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Bethany Funk
and Dylan Mortenson,
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they had also gone out
that night,
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but they had come home earlier
than the rest
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and said that they
had just gone to bed.
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And it seemed like
a regular night.
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Kaylee and Madison
went to bed
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and Ethan also went to bed.
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The last person that we know
that was awake was Xana.
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She had been scrolling
on her phone
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and had ordered a DoorDash
order of food,
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which arrived on the 4:00 hour.
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Dylan Mortenson,
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she awoke a couple times
to weird noises.
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She thought that she had heard
Kaylee's dog, Murphy, whining
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and then somebody crying.
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She opened her door,
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She didn't really see anything.
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Then she heard noises again.
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Woke up.
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She was tired.
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She heard some thumping around.
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She heard someone running
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and say, "I think
someone's here."
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And then she heard
a male voice say,
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"It's okay,
I'm gonna to help you."
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Dylan, knowing that
her house is a revolving door
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and knowing that Xana's
boyfriend was probably over.
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Or maybe Jack was over or Jake,
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the other two girls boyfriends,
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thought nothing of it.
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Dylan went back to sleep
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until she heard one more thing
that made her get up.
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She saw a man dressed in black
with a mask covering his face,
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showing only his eyes
and bushy eyebrows
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walking toward her.
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He was
kind of a taller,
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skinnier build man.
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She shut her door.
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She was frozen in fear.
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She locked her door.
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She heard him leave
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out the glass sliding door
in the kitchen.
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She had no idea
what was going on.
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Frantic calling the roommates,
they didn't answer.
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She called Bethany downstairs.
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She runs downstairs
with Bethany.
256
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They're panicking,
they're calling their roommates.
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No one's answering.
258
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I saw some guy in the house.
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Looked like he was wearing
a black ski mask.
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He was tall.
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She said, what is going on?
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They're texting back and forth.
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Bethany says, run down here.
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Come stay with me.
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They're like,
we're gonna figure out
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what's going on in the morning,
267
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but we're going
to try not to worry right now.
268
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Remember, this is a party house.
269
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How many times does your friend
have some guy over
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who just kind of slunk out?
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Nothing ever happens in Moscow.
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The rest of the town
of Moscow woke up,
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went back to school
or back to their day jobs
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and completely unsuspecting,
275
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feeling that same
feeling of I'm safe.
276
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Everything's fine.
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That harmony of the town.
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Except that something
absolutely awful had happened.
279
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Nobody could have foreseen
anything like this.
280
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There's multiple people
talking on the phone.
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One of the voices says
to the dispatcher,
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we don't know what's going on.
283
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The nature of the call
was just an unconscious person.
284
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And so our officers,
285
00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,759
that was the initial information
that they had
286
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and that's what
they responded to
287
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until they got on scene.
288
00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,039
Immediately upon
entering the house,
289
00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,719
the cops know that this
is a scene of carnage.
290
00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,040
They can smell it in the air.
291
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,279
There's blood soaking
into the carpet,
292
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,479
soaking into the mattresses,
blood on the walls.
293
00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,879
There's spatter.
294
00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,439
There's all kinds of things
that you would expect
295
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if you were watching TV
and saw a crime scene.
296
00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,799
But these guys know
from intimate experience
297
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,960
that this is a horror show.
298
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,879
Quite frankly, at that moment,
299
00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,319
I was completely full
of adrenaline.
300
00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,399
A horrific scene,
301
00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,119
something
that I'll never forget.
302
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,120
They see Kaylee and Maddie
had been butchered.
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00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,999
They're in bed together,
clothed,
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soaking into each other's blood.
305
00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000
Maddie Mogen, who's been slashed
across her face,
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00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,360
stabbed in multiple places.
307
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,359
Kaylee Goncalves
is so disfigured
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00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:32,000
by what is clearly a series
of dozens of stab wounds.
309
00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,080
Blunt force trauma to her face.
310
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Also signs of asphyxiation.
311
00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,959
She is so beyond what
is necessary to murder somebody,
312
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they call this overkill,
313
00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,880
and usually they associate
overkill with rage.
314
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They go down the hall
on the second floor.
315
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,640
They see Xana and Ethan
had been butchered.
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Xana
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00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,440
has been stabbed over 50 times.
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Lots of defensive wounds.
319
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,279
It's clear that she was awake.
320
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,279
It's clear that
she had begun to eat
321
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,279
her Jack in the Box
from DoorDash,
322
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,159
and was met by the perpetrator
on his way out of the house.
323
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,639
She's stabbed
all over the place.
324
00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,039
The only way that
could have happened
325
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,479
in the way that her
stab wounds display
326
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,439
is if she had been struggling,
327
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,999
fighting for her life,
328
00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,920
which leads to an extremely
prolonged death for her.
329
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,319
Her boyfriend, Ethan Chapin,
is found with his jugular slit
330
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,079
and other areas
of his body slashed,
331
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,560
but he's in bed.
332
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,439
It seems clear to the cops
that Ethan had been asleep
333
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,639
when he was murdered.
334
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:57,920
This is a scene of carnage.
335
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,799
They were just
young college kids
336
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,039
going to school
to get an education
337
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,440
and go out
and enjoy their lives.
338
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,359
They were all very social.
339
00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,119
They, they enjoyed friends
and good times.
340
00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,879
And I know Kaylee
and Maddie grew up together.
341
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,479
They were very, very close.
342
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,120
Extremely close.
343
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,479
Maddie Mogen was an extension
of Kaylee Goncalves family.
344
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,799
Spent all kinds of time
with them on family vacations
345
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,439
and after school hangouts
and doing homework together
346
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,400
and going to dinner
with the Goncalves.
347
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,759
Maddie was from,
348
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,399
I guess what people would say
was a broken family,
349
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,920
but that might be
a little dramatic.
350
00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:08,319
Her family was around,
351
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,360
but she was just very attached
to the Goncalves family,
352
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,319
and Kaylee was from a large
family of multiple siblings,
353
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,839
father who really sort
of got down to business
354
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,079
and took care of things.
355
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,959
His family was well established
356
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,159
and Madison Mogen
was a part of that.
357
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,840
They were described as Maddie,
kind, sweet,
358
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,519
Kaylee adventurous, outgoing,
359
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,759
Xana, a friend to everybody.
360
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040
And then there is Ethan Chapin.
361
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,559
Ethan and Xana were dating.
362
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,720
People liked them
together a lot.
363
00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,879
Ethan was just this kind,
hard-working kid.
364
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,240
He was a triplet.
365
00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:02,599
It really seemed like Xana
and Ethan had found
366
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,719
the perfect match in each other.
367
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,559
And that's what everybody said.
368
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,839
Everybody who was around them.
369
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,039
And you saw the pictures
and the videos of them
370
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,759
hugging each other,
being on the couch together,
371
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,239
eating together like
372
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,519
they were just together
and the perfect couple.
373
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,880
And they were so in love.
374
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,359
All of Xana's friends said that
375
00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,080
she was always
the single friend.
376
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,839
They never expected that Xana
would find anybody like Ethan,
377
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,759
that she would fall head
over heels for.
378
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,160
I mean, it was just like
a Romeo and Juliet romance.
379
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,960
It's just so horrifically sad
that this occurred.
380
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,639
It was very, very vicious.
381
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,719
Multiple stab wounds
to all of the victims.
382
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,959
Not just simple clean one
stab wound or something.
383
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,439
There was, there was multiple
stab wounds, multiple cuts,
384
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,320
and a lot of them
on each of the victims.
385
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,999
One of the first things we try
and find, a point of entry.
386
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,039
How do we feel that the suspect
entered the residence?
387
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,519
So we're always looking.
388
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,919
We looked at every door
and window that we could find
389
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,640
to say, okay, did the person
come through this door?
390
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,280
Did they come through a window?
391
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,759
Um, and this scene specifically,
um, the rear slider,
392
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,959
the sliding glass door that was
out of the kitchen was open,
393
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,360
so then we knew we needed
to process it.
394
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,199
When they did process it,
395
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,039
they found lots
of smudged fingerprints
396
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,159
because I don't think
we got any viable prints
397
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,279
off of that window.
398
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,479
We're looking for a weapon.
399
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,639
What is the murder weapon?
400
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,400
Is it still here in the house?
401
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,399
On Kaylee's bed,
402
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,959
where Kaylee and Maddie
had both been killed,
403
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,319
laying next to Maddie is a tan
sheath for a Ka-Bar knife.
404
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,719
The officer starts
talking to the kids.
405
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,039
He's really nice, compassionate.
406
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,239
He's trying
to get them blankets.
407
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,559
I mean, it's cold,
it's freezing outside,
408
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,640
and he's asking them questions.
409
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,559
What happened last night?
410
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,440
So Dylan recounts what she saw
that she heard bumping around.
411
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,679
Bethany also talks about,
412
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,079
you know,
what she saw and heard.
413
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,759
She heard some bumping around,
414
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,239
but they're not allowed back
in the house at this point.
415
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,720
They start putting caution tape
all across the King Road house.
416
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,199
So these kids are standing
outside on the street
417
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,240
in their pyjamas.
418
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,999
It's really intense.
419
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,359
They're crying.
420
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:44,359
They're trying to make sense
of what's going on.
421
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:45,999
At this point too early on,
422
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,599
they didn't even know that their
friends were dead upstairs.
423
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,559
That day, I knew I was going
to be meeting with Haadiya,
424
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,919
my editor-in-chief
for the paper.
425
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,520
We were going to get coffee,
so I picked her up.
426
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,519
And she lived at the university
student apartments
427
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,559
on that street
that leads you to King Road.
428
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,280
So you had a clear visual of
that bend that goes down there.
429
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,199
And so I remember pulling in.
430
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,519
At King Road there was
a lot of police presence,
431
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,239
um, caution tape,
officers walking around.
432
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,880
It just felt like
something was off.
433
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,799
But we were following our
typical procedures, you know,
434
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040
covering crime,
see what we can find out.
435
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,319
And that's when we get
the first notification
436
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,040
of the Vandal alert.
437
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,479
The information being shared
publicly about this event
438
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,600
occurred relatively quickly.
439
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,879
I recall being on scene
in front of the residence,
440
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,239
and I heard the group
of college age individuals
441
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,359
that were nearby.
442
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,400
I heard phones going off,
443
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,359
and then a very strong
emotional reaction
444
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,200
to whatever had just occurred
on their phone.
445
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,759
And we found out
that the University of Idaho
446
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,159
has their own mass
notification system
447
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,199
to notify their student bodies
448
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,759
of major events
or security safety issues.
449
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,039
So what had happened was
the university had sent out a,
450
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,399
what they call a Vandal alert
451
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,839
that went to all the cell phones
and devices of the students
452
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,559
and stated
that the Moscow police
453
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,879
were on scene on King Road
454
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,479
investigating
a quadruple homicide.
455
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,759
So the news that this was not
anything but a murder scene
456
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,880
was broken very,
very quickly to the community.
457
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,799
Me and my friends had gone
out the night before.
458
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,919
We had the same
night that, you know,
459
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080
every other person
who went to the game did.
460
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,079
That was one
of the more shocking things
461
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,959
is that the night
before was really
462
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,760
one of the best nights
of my college experience.
463
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,279
I never felt closer
to the community
464
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,479
and to my friends
and everything.
465
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,599
So waking up the next morning,
466
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,919
I woke up a little later
in the day
467
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,519
to quite a few messages
on my phone.
468
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,279
It was about halfway home
469
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,919
and a text comes in and said,
470
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,119
there's been a homicide
with four victims on campus,
471
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,880
and that's all the news we got.
472
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,799
Unthinkable.
473
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,119
I was at home when I heard.
474
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,879
My husband was teaching
at the University of Idaho.
475
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,480
Kaylee Goncalves had been one
of his students the year before.
476
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,439
So my husband texted me.
477
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,880
He said,
"There's a homicide in town!!"
478
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,600
I'm like, what?
479
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,159
What is going on?
480
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,239
So he gets home
from being with his friend
481
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,920
and he says, "do you want
to go to the house?"
482
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,239
I said, "Absolutely,
we got to go, let's go."
483
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,359
They said stay away
from the area.
484
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:16,719
I'm getting my car, I'm going.
485
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,199
I drive in the street
before King Road,
486
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,559
and there's a turn
that goes right up a hill.
487
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,639
So we turn up that hill,
I park my car and we get out
488
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,279
and I can see over the whole
King Road neighbourhood
489
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,959
from that vantage point.
490
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,239
And I see the cops are
491
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,959
canvassing this entire
neighbourhood.
492
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,279
I couldn't believe it.
493
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,719
He said, "Do you want
to go up to the house?"
494
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,999
And I actually said, "No, I want
to let the police work."
495
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040
I mean, this is my town.
496
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,319
This sort of stuff
doesn't happen around here.
497
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,719
So I said,
"No, let's just stay away."
498
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,879
I will get more
information tomorrow.
499
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,519
But again, the rumour mill
started churning
500
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,440
because there was a lack
of information.
501
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,279
It just created this void
502
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,600
and people just
started speculating.
503
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,879
A lot of that speculation
was occurring
504
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,800
with folks that had YouTube
channels and the like.
505
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,879
At first, I remember
a huge rumour was
506
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,519
that it was some type
of drug deal gone wrong,
507
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,359
and that just didn't make
sense to me.
508
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,959
And I remember that was a huge
rumour flowing around
509
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,999
students and even reporters,
510
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680
and I couldn't fathom
that that was what had happened.
511
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,359
I didn't believe it.
512
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,759
And I think
that maybe at the time,
513
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,519
people wanted to believe
that it was a drug deal gone bad
514
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,160
because the alternative
was so much worse.
515
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,959
It was difficult
to deal with because
516
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,799
it just created
another level of noise
517
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,040
around the investigation.
518
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,239
And as the communications team,
519
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,159
we instigated a rumour
control aspect
520
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,240
to our, to our communications
to the public.
521
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,559
So we would meet every morning
522
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,239
and talk about
what we had learned.
523
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,439
We had other entities
and third-party vendors
524
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,679
assisting us with this,
525
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,359
but keeping an eye
on what was being said,
526
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,839
what was being spread
across the internet
527
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,000
in regard to speculation
of this case,
528
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,639
and we were identifying
the primary rumours, as it were,
529
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,919
of the day,
that were being spread
530
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:42,319
and doing our best to debunk
those with the community
531
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,399
and continually having
that communication that
532
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,839
if the information
that you're receiving
533
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,599
had not come from
the Moscow Police Department,
534
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,840
it's not accurate,
it's not vetted information.
535
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,959
So it just felt like
we were continually battling
536
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,159
this waves of information
537
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,679
that were completely false
and speculative.
538
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,879
And these innocent victims,
539
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360
they were just college students.
540
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,159
There was nothing obvious
to the reason why
541
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,760
someone would want to harm them.
542
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,559
The description
of that individual
543
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,319
was a male with bushy eyebrows
544
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,559
and was holding something
in their hands,
545
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,759
and the roommate did say
that they caught eyes,
546
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760
locked eyes with the individual,
547
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,400
and in doing so, she closed
her door and locked it.
548
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,959
Our biggest challenge
was from day one
549
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,879
was this was a whodunit.
550
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,159
Where were they at at
that point in time?
551
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,639
Are they going to
commit another crime
552
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,160
or are they going
to do this again?
553
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,639
This person is still
on the loose.
554
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,720
The fear was so visceral
and real.
555
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,280
What happened?
556
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,800
Why did this happen?
557
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,359
Is there a crazy person
on the loose
558
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,159
who's going to come
and visit me tonight
559
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,880
and stab me to death too?
560
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,079
The insecurity and questioning
that went on through town
561
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,399
was ramping up rapidly.
562
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800
The town felt like there
was just this heavy fog over it
563
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,800
because again, we didn't know
564
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360
who the person
that did this was.
565
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,400
And everyone was on edge.
566
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,879
And also, you're dealing
with the fact that
567
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,720
this even happened in Moscow.
568
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,999
And I remember
I was doing a live shot
569
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,679
for the TV station I worked at,
570
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,360
and the anchor
had asked me, well,
571
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,919
you're a Vandal alum,
so how do you feel?
572
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,159
And that was like the first
time I had ever cried on TV.
573
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,320
I just lost it.
574
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,039
I just,
I tried to keep it together,
575
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,040
I couldn't.
576
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,839
This case turned into a gravy
train for conspiracy theorists
577
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,919
because they're making
money off of this.
578
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,479
I was watching these lunatics
579
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,559
go from 800 followers
on Instagram
580
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,839
to 100,000 or whatever it was.
581
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,439
TikTok, YouTube.
582
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,399
They're getting thousands
and thousands of followers.
583
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,799
They're making money off...
584
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,999
Maybe it was this person.
585
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,399
Maybe it was that person.
586
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,199
People were calling
the Corner Club bar non-stop,
587
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,680
starting at eight
in the morning.
588
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,559
The owner told me he
just went in one day
589
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,919
and just took the phone
off the wall
590
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,279
because he couldn't take it.
591
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,519
People were calling,
trying to get the last names
592
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,999
of the bartenders
that worked there.
593
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,919
I know so-and-so did it.
594
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,959
I mean, again, people were
treating this as entertainment
595
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,759
and our town, our college,
596
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,559
you know, our university,
597
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,200
these students, their families
were really suffering.
598
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,279
People were getting doxxed
people were getting targeted,
599
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,799
innocent people.
600
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,160
Maybe it's the brother because
remember, these were young
601
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,839
victims living out loud.
602
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,399
They're beautiful.
603
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,159
But their social media accounts,
even to this day are public.
604
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,639
So people are going
through them.
605
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,119
Who are their friends?
606
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,199
Everything from their Instagram
posts to their TikToks
607
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,199
to their Venmo transactions,
608
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,599
taking it upon themselves
to be Sherlock Holmes
609
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,799
and try to put together
the mystery themselves
610
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,320
from their little smartphone.
611
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,679
And playing a game
and this is people's lives.
612
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,759
And some of these kids
just went home for break.
613
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,759
I mean, reporters
were showing up
614
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,559
at their parents house in Boise.
615
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Oh, talk to us
about the killings.
616
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Oh, it was so stressful
for the students.
617
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,959
A lot of them were caught off
guard or ambushed
618
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,479
when they were just trying
to get their education
619
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,880
and move on with their lives
as best as they can.
620
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,479
Heavy journalism and press
attention didn't help at all
621
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,839
with the rumours or anything.
622
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,439
I saw a small business owners
and faculty
623
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,279
and even other students
were being accused
624
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,879
of being involved somehow
625
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,759
by people who didn't know what
they were talking about.
626
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,599
And that just
sort of comes from,
627
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,720
I don't know, all the attention
without as many answers.
628
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,199
But by Wednesday,
the police finally
629
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,559
were going to have
a press conference.
630
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,999
November 16th.
631
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,320
They say, "We're going
to tell people what's going on."
632
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,079
I'm in the back
of the press conference.
633
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,240
There's cameras everywhere.
634
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,839
And I'm looking around.
635
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,079
There's journalists from
the New York Times, from CNN,
636
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,679
from Fox, from MSNBC.
637
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,439
Why? Why are they here?
638
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,639
Why are they in my town?
639
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,799
I've never seen these people
in my life.
640
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,999
What's going on?
641
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,879
And she asked the question
to Chief Fry,
642
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,799
why, you know,
shouldn't we be worried?
643
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,479
And he says,
I guess we have to go back to
644
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,039
there is a threat
to the community.
645
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,479
And boom, that's it.
646
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,319
That's the quote
everybody runs with
647
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,760
because they've admitted,
yeah, we don't have anybody.
648
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,040
We should probably be
looking over our shoulder.
649
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,319
We did not have
a suspect in custody.
650
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,240
It's, it's impossible not to
have a community be on edge.
651
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,879
And especially
with the university,
652
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,319
many individuals of the same
age group as the victims,
653
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,119
many of them knew the victims.
654
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,519
The whole community
was victimised by this crime.
655
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,199
They've kept the investigation
close to their chest,
656
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,399
and most people leave
those press conferences
657
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,599
feeling like they
learned very little
658
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,759
and they start to badger in,
on their, on their sites.
659
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,079
They start to badger the,
the police force
660
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,319
and they start to badger
the local authorities.
661
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,439
And they, they think,
oh, these small-town yokels,
662
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,800
they don't know what
the hell they're doing.
663
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,159
What was interesting
is the police
664
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,839
were getting all kinds
of criticism, right?
665
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,879
People are calling,
harassing them.
666
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,319
You don't know
what you're doing.
667
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,559
They're working overtime.
668
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,279
But also the community
is being supportive,
669
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,119
bringing them food,
cheering them on.
670
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,359
They're working overtime
671
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,039
through the holidays
on this case,
672
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,759
and we're not seeing
a lot of that police work
673
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,840
because they're keeping
it very close to the chest.
674
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,999
And people on social media
are going nuts about this case
675
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,639
and acting like it's some sort
of game for them
676
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,840
instead of an active
homicide investigation.
677
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,399
I can't imagine the strength
of these parents to even...
678
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,039
How do you get out
of bed the next day?
679
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,679
You know,
they all handled it differently.
680
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,679
Some were a lot more quiet
in the press.
681
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,839
Others, the Goncalves family,
they got really loud.
682
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,079
They were going on the news,
talking about it all the time.
683
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,159
Everybody handles
grief differently.
684
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,319
But on November 30th, we had
a vigil for these students.
685
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,399
This person is still
on the loose.
686
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,520
We still have no suspect
in custody.
687
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,479
If you're a community member
688
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,119
or a student who's
experiencing this,
689
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,799
not only are you living
in the nightmare,
690
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,359
but there's no escape.
691
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,679
You turn on the radio,
692
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,000
they're talking
about the killings in Moscow.
693
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,639
You turn on the TV,
694
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,799
they're running footage non-stop
of your college campus
695
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,879
talking about horror in Idaho.
696
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,839
These kids were like,
we just want to be students.
697
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,039
We just want to worry
about homework again.
698
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,720
We cannot escape this.
699
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,439
The pressure's coming
from all over the place of,
700
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,879
why don't you
have a suspect yet?
701
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,919
Why haven't you made
an arrest yet?
702
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,319
Are they going
to commit another crime,
703
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,600
or are they going
to do this again very soon?
704
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,159
So those were the biggest
unknowns that we were trying to
705
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,119
solve as quickly as we could
706
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,279
so that we can make sure
our community was safe.
707
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,839
So we got the FBI involved,
708
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,560
our Federal Bureau of
Investigations here in the US.
709
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,119
We had brought them in to help
and assist with us.
710
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,359
So we now had the FBI,
Idaho State Police
711
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,919
and the Moscow Police Department
712
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,800
all investigating this crime,
all working together.
713
00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:27,279
Everybody who got
involved in this case
714
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,479
dropped everything
they had going personally
715
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,959
through the holidays,
through Christmas,
716
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,880
and did everything they could.
717
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,159
It was just the continual,
um, daily grind.
718
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,559
Throughout this investigation
we had two daily briefings,
719
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,999
one in the morning,
one in the afternoon
720
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,680
with the entire
investigative team.
721
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,359
We set up a tip line
722
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,759
where we were continually
getting thousands of tips
723
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,199
from the community at large
724
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,799
that were looked
at individually.
725
00:39:56,720 --> 00:40:00,839
You're typically thinking this
is an extreme crime of passion
726
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,920
when you're talking
homicide by knife,
727
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,439
that is something that that is
a very motivated individual
728
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,359
committing a homicide by knife.
729
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,879
As much as you hate to say it,
730
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,759
but it's not very personal
to shoot somebody with a gun.
731
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,639
You know, you can just
stand away,
732
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,479
you don't have to be up close,
733
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,519
but to be a knife,
you've got to be up close,
734
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,159
personal and violent actions.
735
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,199
And it's a very,
what we call emotional event.
736
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,639
So you're kind of looking at
737
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,919
somebody
who has this motivation.
738
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,319
We knew when our investigators
found the knife sheath
739
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,920
in Madison's room
that that was going to be a...
740
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,759
large, if not the largest bit
of evidence possible.
741
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,519
So when we did find
that piece of evidence
742
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,440
that was hand-delivered down
to the Idaho State Police Lab.
743
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,719
We also got a report back from
our Idaho State lab
744
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:07,159
that there is a single
point DNA sample that was found,
745
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,039
a single male sample
746
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,799
that was a very clean sample,
wasn't contaminated.
747
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,599
There was only one person's DNA
that they found on that sample
748
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,840
from touch DNA.
749
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,399
The news when we
found out from the lab
750
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,559
that they had found
single point male DNA
751
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,119
on the snap of that sheath
752
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,920
was a very big day
for the investigation.
753
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:35,400
We knew we had the DNA
on the person who did this.
754
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Now it was just a matter
of figuring out who they were.
755
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,039
At the same time,
756
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,479
we went out and sent the
neighbourhood canvass team out,
757
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,239
just looking for who got cameras
in the neighbourhood
758
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,800
and everything
and trying to get footage.
759
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:57,639
We found video on one of the
cameras close by
760
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680
of a vehicle
that piqued our interest.
761
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,719
We could see this white car
762
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:08,360
making multiple passes
around the house.
763
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,359
It would come in, go back out,
come in, come back out.
764
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,199
And it did that for about
a half hour, up to an hour,
765
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,599
just constantly going back
and forth, back and forth,
766
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,920
just making laps.
767
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,599
And then what really
piqued our interest
768
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,759
is right around the time,
769
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,839
right around 4:00,
4:20 in the morning
770
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960
when we feel that the
homicides happened,
771
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,159
this car just takes off out
of the neighbourhood,
772
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,239
almost hits a garbage can
and takes off up a road
773
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,320
that we can still see
on the camera,
774
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,199
heading south out of town,
775
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,159
really was like, okay,
we need to figure out
776
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,959
what kind of car this is.
777
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,240
There's something with this car.
778
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,839
The FBI was able
to look at the vehicle.
779
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,280
They had an expert.
780
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,279
They go to the technical
details of the vehicle,
781
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,720
window shapes, measurements,
stuff like this.
782
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,119
They were pretty sure
that it was a
783
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,039
white Hyundai Elantra.
784
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,359
That Hyundai
785
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,400
fits exactly into the timeline
of the murders.
786
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,399
The police make this public
787
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,079
that they're looking
for a white Hyundai Elantra.
788
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,479
We had two main
pieces of evidence
789
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,519
that we were working on
at the exact same time
790
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,039
was the knife sheath
and the DNA,
791
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,680
but also the vehicle
from the video.
792
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,959
We understood
that people wanted answers.
793
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,640
They wanted the person
who did this to be caught.
794
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,520
The pressure was immense,
795
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,039
but we utilised that pressure
796
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,919
as even more motivation to keep
grinding and keep working.
797
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,879
We walked in to this building
every single day
798
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,679
and you could just feel it.
799
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,640
It was palpable.
800
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,799
Everyone was on the same page.
801
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,919
Everybody was on the same path
of the mission.
802
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,239
We were going to solve this
803
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,759
and we were going to get justice
for these victims
804
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:01,759
and their families.
63587
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