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Should we do this?
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Yeah.
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We're still on the opposite
side of the room.
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I know.
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I can feel the awkwardness.
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And set.
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The "In The City" season
1 reunion starts now.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome to the "In
The City" Season 1 Reunion.
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I love a season 1 reunion.
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I'm Andy Cohen.
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And I almost wore
a whitish-pink suit tonight.
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But after what
happened to Danielle,
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I went right back
in my dressing room
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and I changed very quickly.
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Good move.
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Without further
ado, yes, let's say
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hi to the gang from Gotham.
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Yvonne and Nick,
congratulations on expecting.
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Thank you.
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Yes!
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Hey, Gavin.
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What's up?
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Have you noticed a spike
in business at your bars
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since the show started airing?
- I have.
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- Yes.
- People are showing up.
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Excellent.
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Hey, Georgina.
- Hi.
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- How are you?
- I'm good.
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How are you?
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Great.
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Has Kyle hit you up
for any butt Botox lately?
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That would be a HIPAA
violation to answer.
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Oh!
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OK.
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Hey, Amanda.
- Hi, Andy.
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- How are you?
- I'm OK.
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OK, good.
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I know the last few months
have been a whirlwind for you.
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How are you approaching
today differently?
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I know you actually did
your own hair tonight.
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I did.
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I did my own hair,
makeup, and styling
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so no one can get in trouble.
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And if you hate it, then,
you know, that's on me.
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That's on you.
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Right, right.
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As are most
of my actions, but--
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- Yes.
- yeah.
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All right.
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Hi, Lindsay.
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Hey, Andy.
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Is Gemma still
a master of side-eye?
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She is.
And in fact--
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Where'd she get that?
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I don't know.
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It's so crazy how, you
know, genetics work.
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Yeah, it is.
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DJ Kyle Cook.
- How are we doing?
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How are you?
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Pretty good, pretty good.
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Very good.
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The people need to know,
how is your asshole doing?
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Well, you're supposed
to ease into Metamucil.
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I was taking four times
the recommended dosage.
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I like, literally,
like, rip my butt open.
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You know, I was
hoping it made the edit.
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I-- it took a while.
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I finally recovered.
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- You did?
- Yeah.
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Sounded like it.
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Oh, my god.
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Hey, Kenny and Whitney.
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- Hi.
- How's it going?
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Good, good.
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How are you?
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How's your spark these days?
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Phenomenal.
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Good.
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It's very, very bright.
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Hey, Danielle and Eoin.
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- Hi, Andy.
- Hi, Andy.
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How are you?
- How are you?
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You are also expecting.
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Congratulations.
- Yes.
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Thank you.
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You are due when?
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Labor Day.
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- Labor Day?
- Yeah.
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Wow.
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And finally, good
news comes in threes.
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Congratulations are also
in order to Andrea and Lexi,
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who are expecting a baby girl.
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Congratulations.
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Nice to see you, Andy.
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It's been a while.
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When are you due?
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September 2.
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Wow!
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I mean, this is--
- Boom, boom, boom.
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Within a week.
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- Yep.
- Wow.
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Yeah, we're all within
a week of each other.
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- Oh, my god.
- Lots of labor.
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I guess that means
the prosciutto method works.
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That's a good method.
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- He lifts you up.
- That's my move.
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Yeah.
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Semi off the ground.
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Like a prosciutto.
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It's easy.
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You just grab her from
the legs, and make sure
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it goes straight.
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Our daughter is
gonna see this.
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All right, well,
let's get into it.
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As the entire
world knows by now,
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after Kyle and Amanda's
marriage went south,
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Amanda found herself
swerving West.
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There's been a ton of online
speculation about where
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you two stand today.
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So let me just start
there and get an update.
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How are things going?
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I know you were just in Italy.
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Yes.
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And, you know, this
video or a picture of you
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spitting in his
mouth was everywhere.
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- It was an olive.
- It was an olive, OK.
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Yes.
I wasn't spitting in his mouth.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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I got a lot of heat
for only asking
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West if he was on a beta
blocker at the reunion.
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Yes.
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There was a lot
of people wanted
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me to ask if you were, you
know, disengaged chemically.
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No.
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I did-- I was on a beta
blocker as well.
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But that's not why
I was disengaged.
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I think after a while, I think
people can see also, you know,
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when Kyle and I
have had arguments,
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my defense mechanism is to just
shut down and dissociate.
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That wasn't
because of medication.
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We have heard from
Kyle, Amanda, and Lindsay
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at the "Summer House" reunion.
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I'm curious for the rest
of you in the group
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if anyone had
a reaction or were
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you surprised about
Amanda and West
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announcing that they
were giving it a shot.
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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- Shocked.
- Shocked?
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- Shocked.
- I didn't believe it.
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I thought--
- Disappointed.
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Mm-hmm.
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Why?
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I think because of the way
it all unfolded.
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The friendships that were
broken apart because of it.
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And then I just-- honestly, I
hate that you kind of doubled
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down and you're pursuing
this relationship with him
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all the way, you
know, going to Italy.
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I know that you had to make a
decision one way or the other.
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I just wish for you,
that you would take
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some time just for yourself.
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Be alone.
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What's your reaction
to her disappointment?
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No, I understand.
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I think and I know the way that
I handled things and went about
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the whole situation was wrong.
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And you can't go
back and change it.
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But you can a little.
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I can't go back and change
the fact that I wasn't honest
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and, you know, and hid
things and lied.
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I'm curious, have y'all hung
out with Amanda and West yet?
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Anyone here in this group?
- No.
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No?
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Gavin, have they turned
up at any of your bars?
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They know better than that.
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What would you do?
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What would happen if they
turned up at one of your bars?
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Cut, cut.
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Rejected at the door.
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Those two.
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No.
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Amanda, she would
never do that.
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Yeah, no.
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I mean, we're not going
out much in general, so.
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Are you two monogamous now?
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Yes.
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Are you in love?
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That's-- it's a weird
question to answer.
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Do you say, I love you?
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Not really.
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Not really?
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Have you ever?
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No.
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"Love ya" counts.
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Yeah, ILY.
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Oh!
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As you look back on the
reunion, did you watch it?
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I lived it.
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I didn't-- I have not.
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OK.
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Did you-- when you left, did
you leave feeling that there
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was nothing left unsaid?
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Or were you-- like,
were you disappointed
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in your performance?
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Were you fine with it?
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How did you--
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For sure disappointed
in my performance.
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You know, I definitely
wanted to come in and
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be able to apologize
and provide more clarity
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and come off as sad and like--
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not me not hurt,
but upset about how
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I've hurt other people.
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And I think the energy,
I went into defense mode.
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And that's not to blame anyone.
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I understand where
everyone was coming from.
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But my natural instinct
was to get defensive.
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And I don't love the way
that I handled myself at all.
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You wish you had
not gotten defensive?
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- Not at all.
- I don't know West.
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I do care about you.
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And I've known you
for a long time.
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But he seems like
the things that you
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were most upset with Kyle
about, like, 10 times worse.
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That's not what I've been
experiencing whatsoever.
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And on the flip
side, I'm actually
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getting from him
things that I felt
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I was lacking in my
relationship with Kyle, so--
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Like what?
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Just someone
that's been, like,
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supportive, that I feel like--
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like, like--
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Let me know when
he does your taxes,
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negotiates your brand deals.
- You feel built up?
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- I feel-- I do--
- Make your bed.
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Like--
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I feel--
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How did I not support you?
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I didn't say you
don't support me.
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But towards the end
of our relationship,
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there were things
that were missing.
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Not the whole time, but there
were things that were lacking.
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To this day, I'm still
doing things to help you.
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So it's just-- it still hurts
when you say things like that.
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I understand our marriage
is not perfect.
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I understand there's
a lot missing.
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I don't think support was--
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The way that he, like,
talks to me and tells me.
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Like, it's just his
actions, just the way--
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it's just-- it's different.
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And--
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Well, I mean, yeah.
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He's-- yeah, anyway.
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I hope you understand
that everything
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that everybody here is saying
is because they care about you.
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I know that.
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You have people in your--
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I just don't want you
to turn your back.
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And I know it's
tough to sit here and
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do this all over again,
take the criticism.
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And it's a lose-lose.
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Like, you're coming
into the other reunion.
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There's nothing
you're going to say
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that's going to make it right.
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I know.
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And similar
today, so I give you
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credit for taking
it on the chin,
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and it's not
the first time he's
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said the right thing
to somebody to wrap
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them around his finger.
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Kyle, you've
been very dignified
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throughout this whole thing.
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No, Kyle's been--
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continued to be
amazed by how your--
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- the best.
- support--
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- Yeah.
- It's a testament to--
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Yeah.
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I'm wondering, what
was your perspective
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about Kyle's conversation
with West, and in general,
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his level of support for you?
282
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I mean, I'm eternally
grateful for Kyle.
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I think it just shows how much
we do have love for each other
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and I think it's
something that we've made
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clear from the very beginning.
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Unfortunately, like, we
could not communicate,
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we could not get
along in our marriage,
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but that doesn't take away from
the friendship and the love
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that we've had for each
other this whole time.
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Which is also why, when
we first separated,
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I was always standing up
for him too, because I didn't
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want people to attack him.
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And I'm just really
appreciative that he's
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been there for me
as well, because if anyone
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knows each other better,
it's the two of us.
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So I've been very
grateful to have him.
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I don't know any
other way, so it's--
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It's been a ride.
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Yeah.
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Coming up.
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- When I can finish--
- There was a period of time.
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let me know.
303
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You just talk over everyone.
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Let someone else speak.
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sitting here screaming.
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OK, we are back.
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So, what's it like hanging out
with single Kyle now, folks?
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Kenny?
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When he's not making
out with somebody?
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With all due, is single
Kyle that different--
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Not at all.
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from married Kyle?
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Kyle is true to himself.
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I don't have, like,
this guilt trip--
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- Yeah.
- hanging over my head.
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He's just more public
with his makeouts now.
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- Kyle is going to be Kyle.
- Yeah.
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And I love
hearing about them.
319
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Are you just being recorded?
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- Do you care if--
- I think it was--
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- you see him making out--
- years ago.
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with someone now?
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It wasn't as much years ago.
324
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No, I think I mourned
most of our relationship
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when I was still in it, which
is why I think I was so cold
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and closed off
towards the end of it,
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because I was coming
to terms that it
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wasn't going to continue.
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And now, like, he tells me
about make outs that he has
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and we laugh about it.
331
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Or like, I'll call
him and be like,
332
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I saw you kissing Meghan
on your tippy toes.
333
00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:04,758
What was that?
- Not my tippy toes.
334
00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:06,099
- He wasn't on his tippy toes.
- Not my tippy toes.
335
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He was not on his tippy toes.
336
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And at our premiere party,
we have a laugh about it.
337
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And then, yeah,
at our premiere party.
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He was telling Amanda--
339
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Kyle was telling Amanda--
340
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How he has sober sex.
341
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And she was saying,
I'm so proud of you.
342
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- What?
- She had tears in her eyes.
343
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Yeah.
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I don't know how
that came about.
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I was like, What is
going on right now?
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Who's having sober sex?
347
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You're having sober sex?
- Yeah.
348
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And Amanda was so proud.
349
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I guess I was trying
to make a point, but--
350
00:11:26,593 --> 00:11:27,631
- Kyle McGill--
- I forget my point.
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Like, how do you know
you're over somebody
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when you're proud I them that
they're having sober sex?
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Part of me wonders
if you are fully allowing
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yourself to process this.
355
00:11:35,980 --> 00:11:37,259
The way you're
showing up for her,
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the way that you guys
are still so friendly,
357
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given the level
of betrayal here.
358
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It's like, are you
allowing yourself--
359
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- Well, I didn't betray--
- to process?
360
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- We were--
- Here's the hero.
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way separated before.
362
00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,480
There was no betrayal.
363
00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:51,780
Like, I didn't cheat on Kyle.
364
00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:52,880
I didn't have an affair.
365
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There was no
crossover, overlap.
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Like, our marriage was done.
367
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Oh, it did hurt to hear--
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I mean, like, to this day--
369
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Of course, it hurt.
370
00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:01,919
Look, the only
thing I'll say is,
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the thing that I can't
compute is our statement
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comes out the 19th.
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There's two weekends between
the 19th and the Super Bowl and
374
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everybody talks about
the Super Bowl being that
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point in time where West--
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- Which doesn't make--
- said that--
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00:12:15,974 --> 00:12:16,512
sense to me--
378
00:12:16,513 --> 00:12:17,512
you guys were an item.
379
00:12:17,513 --> 00:12:17,997
because we weren't
an item at all.
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We were texting.
381
00:12:18,820 --> 00:12:20,559
Then take it up with him,
because he's out there running
382
00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:22,459
his mouth before, apparently,
you guys were an item,
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saying you were an item.
384
00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,338
Yeah, again--
385
00:12:24,339 --> 00:12:26,220
Which again,
like, what's his MO?
386
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I don't know.
- Don't know.
387
00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:28,980
I only bring that up
because I am still--
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Like, there's still stuff
that I am processing.
389
00:12:31,460 --> 00:12:33,659
Who do you feel more
betrayed by, West or Amanda?
390
00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:35,719
West.
391
00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:42,040
Because we were boys
and we were done with our--
392
00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,119
You made out with someone
before I was even texting
393
00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,260
West in any sort of way.
394
00:12:49,980 --> 00:12:52,458
The night before
our premiere party in February?
395
00:12:52,459 --> 00:12:53,019
Yeah.
396
00:12:53,020 --> 00:12:54,780
So, like, Kyle was done.
397
00:12:55,079 --> 00:12:56,599
He was making
out with Sally--
398
00:12:56,778 --> 00:12:57,921
Yeah.
399
00:12:58,064 --> 00:13:00,459
the night before
the "Summer House" premiere.
400
00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:02,378
My point is, Kyle
wasn't, like, in his bed
401
00:13:02,379 --> 00:13:04,578
crying about the marriage.
402
00:13:04,579 --> 00:13:06,619
Like, Kyle was, like,
enjoying his freedom.
403
00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:07,620
Right.
404
00:13:07,707 --> 00:13:10,032
And are you
in Sally hanging out?
405
00:13:10,179 --> 00:13:11,579
I was just in Charleston.
406
00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:14,259
Austin threw a nice
little party.
407
00:13:15,260 --> 00:13:16,260
- And what happened?
- We hung out.
408
00:13:16,359 --> 00:13:16,939
Yes.
409
00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:17,940
- Yes, we hooked up.
- OK.
410
00:13:19,379 --> 00:13:20,439
And there's nothing
wrong with that,
411
00:13:20,572 --> 00:13:21,638
and I didn't have an issue--
- Did you have sober sex?
412
00:13:21,639 --> 00:13:23,339
with it the first time
I heard about it either.
413
00:13:23,659 --> 00:13:24,659
Was it sober?
414
00:13:25,099 --> 00:13:26,099
Your-- your reaction--
415
00:13:26,579 --> 00:13:28,099
Kyle, your reaction--
416
00:13:28,270 --> 00:13:29,397
No, it's prosciutto.
417
00:13:29,398 --> 00:13:30,397
It's the prosciutto.
418
00:13:30,398 --> 00:13:31,398
Lawnmower?
419
00:13:31,517 --> 00:13:32,517
The wheelbarrow.
420
00:13:32,611 --> 00:13:33,807
Wheelbarrow.
421
00:13:33,979 --> 00:13:38,627
So since nothing happens
outside the Bravo sphere,
422
00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,239
we've got LaLa from
The Valley saying
423
00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,598
that she heard
on good authority
424
00:13:43,599 --> 00:13:45,560
that you are great in bed.
425
00:13:45,860 --> 00:13:48,418
Yeah, I woke up
to some texts from, like,
426
00:13:48,419 --> 00:13:49,960
TMZ and Page Six
asking for comment.
427
00:13:50,379 --> 00:13:52,679
I was like, this is one time
I would like to comment.
428
00:13:53,874 --> 00:13:55,139
But how would
people know that?
429
00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:58,419
So how many people are you
sleeping with and how soon
430
00:13:58,420 --> 00:13:59,148
after--
- No, it was Sally.
431
00:13:59,149 --> 00:13:59,922
- OK.
- It was Sally.
432
00:13:59,923 --> 00:14:00,859
Just Sally.
433
00:14:00,860 --> 00:14:02,399
She had told LaLa,
because, I guess,
434
00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,318
they had recorded a podcast.
435
00:14:03,319 --> 00:14:04,919
What were you
guys doing in bed?
436
00:14:05,980 --> 00:14:07,400
Having sober sex, Amanda.
437
00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:09,240
What are you doing in bed?
438
00:14:09,620 --> 00:14:11,540
Wait, was the sober
sex person her?
439
00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:12,639
- No, no, no.
- Oh.
440
00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,639
No, no, no.
441
00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,486
TBD.
442
00:14:14,487 --> 00:14:17,298
One was my age, one
was 10 years younger,
443
00:14:17,299 --> 00:14:19,220
but reads at an older level.
444
00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:21,599
He certainly was
not on his tippies.
445
00:14:22,319 --> 00:14:23,959
He was not on his tippies,
I'll tell you that.
446
00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,759
And I found a bra.
Yeah.
447
00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,098
No, it's fine.
448
00:14:27,099 --> 00:14:28,439
We are able to laugh about it.
449
00:14:28,579 --> 00:14:29,578
Well, I should hope so.
450
00:14:29,579 --> 00:14:31,499
I feel like that means
it's been over for--
451
00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:33,179
Well, I want
to put a pin in this,
452
00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:36,559
and we are going to get more
into Kyle and Amanda's marriage
453
00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,560
a little later.
454
00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,558
Well, these days,
getting activated
455
00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:41,539
looks a lot different
for Lindsay Hubbard.
456
00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,679
This new mom found
herself sandwiched
457
00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,180
between a baby, a core group
of New York City girlfriends,
458
00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800
and an utterly
unpredictable love life.
459
00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,239
Andrea, it was very
entertaining to see
460
00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,339
how giddy you got trying
to set Lindsay up.
461
00:14:56,819 --> 00:14:58,759
Have you been on the hunt
for her since then?
462
00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,419
Oh, she's still
going decently
463
00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:03,220
strong with Mr. Milkman.
464
00:15:03,399 --> 00:15:04,398
Are you?
465
00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:04,838
Yeah.
466
00:15:04,839 --> 00:15:06,359
They're very cute together.
467
00:15:06,524 --> 00:15:07,815
I met Frank--
468
00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:09,073
Tell me how you really feel?
You have no idea.
469
00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,918
when he was
dating Kelly Dodd.
470
00:15:10,919 --> 00:15:11,919
I know.
471
00:15:12,062 --> 00:15:13,098
He loves reality stars.
472
00:15:13,099 --> 00:15:14,700
The Bravo world is so small.
473
00:15:14,899 --> 00:15:15,899
I mean--
474
00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:19,000
I'm not in a place right
now where I'm looking
475
00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,760
for a serious relationship.
476
00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,358
I really just am not.
477
00:15:25,359 --> 00:15:26,218
I think the last--
478
00:15:26,219 --> 00:15:27,459
You're focused
on your daughter.
479
00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:29,098
Yeah.
And work.
480
00:15:29,099 --> 00:15:30,098
Daughter and work.
481
00:15:30,099 --> 00:15:30,858
And co-parenting.
482
00:15:30,859 --> 00:15:36,059
And if-- dating has to be
fun for me, and I just
483
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,260
am not ready to settle down.
484
00:15:38,359 --> 00:15:42,399
The last two partners that
I decided were going to be
485
00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,979
my partners, didn't work out.
486
00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:46,459
So I really am
taking my time when
487
00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:48,260
it comes to that big decision.
488
00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:49,660
Co-parenting is going well?
489
00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:51,079
He's a great father.
490
00:15:51,359 --> 00:15:52,700
Is he dating anyone?
491
00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:53,918
I hope so.
492
00:15:53,919 --> 00:15:55,500
You hope so,
but you don't know?
493
00:15:55,655 --> 00:15:56,716
Wait, you don't talk?
494
00:15:56,873 --> 00:15:58,307
It makes everyone nicer
when they're getting laid.
495
00:15:58,308 --> 00:15:59,338
- That is true.
- Look at Kyle.
496
00:15:59,339 --> 00:16:00,339
He's--
He's glowing.
497
00:16:02,819 --> 00:16:05,078
Danielle, what do you
think of Frank and Dustin
498
00:16:05,079 --> 00:16:07,259
as potential mates for Lindsay?
499
00:16:07,359 --> 00:16:09,319
I'm not going to comment
on Lindsay's
500
00:16:10,020 --> 00:16:11,339
relationships anymore.
501
00:16:21,549 --> 00:16:23,870
We are back with
the "In The City" Reunion.
502
00:16:24,429 --> 00:16:28,108
Georgina and Yvonne, what kind
of guy do you see Lindsay with?
503
00:16:28,109 --> 00:16:29,108
Oh my God.
504
00:16:29,109 --> 00:16:31,449
I see Lindsay with
somebody ambitious.
505
00:16:32,229 --> 00:16:33,969
So Frank did check that box.
506
00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:36,673
But I also see Lindsay
with somebody who doesn't
507
00:16:36,864 --> 00:16:38,577
take himself very seriously.
508
00:16:38,770 --> 00:16:39,989
Honestly, I think
Dustin would have
509
00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:41,828
been a great match if he
lived here, because he
510
00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:42,849
kind of checks those boxes.
511
00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:44,169
Obviously, he's handsome.
512
00:16:44,289 --> 00:16:45,370
She needs somebody
good looking and
513
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:48,228
somebody who's really
confident and secure
514
00:16:48,229 --> 00:16:50,549
and is not going to be
intimidated by the fact
515
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:53,250
that she doesn't need
him, she just wants him.
516
00:16:53,729 --> 00:16:55,489
And I think someone
who prioritizes
517
00:16:55,490 --> 00:16:57,670
Lindsay and values you.
518
00:16:57,849 --> 00:17:00,770
I think I'm still
skeptical of Frank,
519
00:17:01,829 --> 00:17:04,848
but I would love to see
you with someone else.
520
00:17:04,970 --> 00:17:06,269
But he's fun for now.
521
00:17:06,442 --> 00:17:07,489
Yeah.
522
00:17:07,663 --> 00:17:08,883
She's right about that
part related to Frank.
523
00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:11,069
He should be more available.
524
00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:12,475
- More available.
- But I was--
525
00:17:12,648 --> 00:17:14,608
Frank has just been
the fling category--
526
00:17:14,744 --> 00:17:15,828
- He's very fun, though.
- not the ring category.
527
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:17,068
- He's very fun.
- There's something missing.
528
00:17:17,069 --> 00:17:17,852
I won't allow it.
529
00:17:17,853 --> 00:17:18,580
There's something we
don't know about Frank.
530
00:17:18,581 --> 00:17:19,328
He's very cute.
531
00:17:19,329 --> 00:17:21,408
Danielle, what do you
think of Frank and Dustin
532
00:17:21,409 --> 00:17:23,589
as potential mates for Lindsay?
533
00:17:24,629 --> 00:17:25,908
I-- I-- I'm not
going to comment
534
00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:28,628
on Lindsay's
relationships anymore.
535
00:17:29,361 --> 00:17:30,029
You've learned your lesson.
536
00:17:30,030 --> 00:17:31,145
Yes, I've learned--
537
00:17:31,146 --> 00:17:32,353
I've learned several lessons.
538
00:17:32,990 --> 00:17:36,138
I-- I do think that what
Georgina and Yvonne is--
539
00:17:36,139 --> 00:17:38,989
said is spot on, I
mean, perhaps, like,
540
00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:41,209
a little bit more grounded
and ready for-- for someone
541
00:17:41,210 --> 00:17:41,568
like her.
542
00:17:41,569 --> 00:17:43,368
Georgina, are you
currently seeing anyone?
543
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:46,976
No, but I've decided that
that's my next chapter.
544
00:17:46,977 --> 00:17:47,936
OK.
545
00:17:47,937 --> 00:17:49,790
Well, you have
your photos ready for Raya.
546
00:17:49,970 --> 00:17:51,778
- That's a big decision.
- It is a big decision
547
00:17:51,779 --> 00:17:53,350
- Yeah.
- It's hard with kids, but--
548
00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:55,299
and I kind of didn't
want to confuse them.
549
00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:57,489
And then I am going
to be dating-- actually,
550
00:17:57,490 --> 00:18:00,230
something Whitney and I
spoke about-- intentionally,
551
00:18:00,590 --> 00:18:02,070
where it's not the same.
552
00:18:02,170 --> 00:18:03,490
It's not going
to be just for fun.
553
00:18:03,869 --> 00:18:06,128
One of my patients
and good friends
554
00:18:06,129 --> 00:18:07,089
actually said something to me.
555
00:18:07,090 --> 00:18:07,713
Because I was so cautious.
556
00:18:07,714 --> 00:18:08,369
I was like, I don't--
557
00:18:08,370 --> 00:18:09,870
I don't know.
558
00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:12,148
I-- I was hoping it would
still work out with their dad,
559
00:18:12,149 --> 00:18:14,169
to be honest, as pathetic
as that sounds,
560
00:18:14,170 --> 00:18:15,529
just because then
it's easier on them.
561
00:18:15,649 --> 00:18:16,848
But she said something.
562
00:18:16,849 --> 00:18:19,328
She said, you know,
her parents split up
563
00:18:19,329 --> 00:18:20,129
when they were really young.
564
00:18:20,130 --> 00:18:21,429
And they both got remarried.
565
00:18:22,009 --> 00:18:23,848
And it was just more
people to love her.
566
00:18:23,849 --> 00:18:24,774
Aw.
567
00:18:24,775 --> 00:18:25,729
And I love that.
568
00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:26,729
That-- that's great.
569
00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:27,949
So that really, like,
tipped me over, where
570
00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:28,709
I was like, you know what?
571
00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:30,870
Another person to love
my kids and love me--
572
00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:33,949
Yes.
573
00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:34,751
I think that
would be fantastic.
574
00:18:34,752 --> 00:18:35,723
- Yes.
- Yes.
575
00:18:35,724 --> 00:18:37,604
Lindsay and Georgina,
Ali W. emailed,
576
00:18:37,710 --> 00:18:40,990
congratulations to Danielle,
Yvonne and Lexi.
577
00:18:41,530 --> 00:18:43,089
Lindsay and Georgina,
what's the best
578
00:18:43,090 --> 00:18:45,790
parenting advice you have
to offer our soon-to-be moms?
579
00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:50,730
My best advice is
to just go with it.
580
00:18:50,849 --> 00:18:53,849
You cannot control how
it's all going to go down,
581
00:18:53,950 --> 00:18:57,009
whether it's from the birth
to after the birth,
582
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:58,110
the postpartum.
583
00:18:58,210 --> 00:19:01,888
You just have to just move
with the motions as they come.
584
00:19:01,889 --> 00:19:06,908
And make sure you have your
support systems in-- in line,
585
00:19:06,909 --> 00:19:07,408
you know?
586
00:19:07,409 --> 00:19:10,350
And I'm here for all
of you, including Danielle.
587
00:19:11,975 --> 00:19:14,946
I think the best advice
is give yourself grace.
588
00:19:15,123 --> 00:19:16,148
Mm-hmm.
589
00:19:16,149 --> 00:19:17,490
Give yourself love.
590
00:19:17,829 --> 00:19:18,990
If you need a minute,
take a minute.
591
00:19:19,329 --> 00:19:21,969
I remember, you know,
holding in my pee
592
00:19:21,970 --> 00:19:23,309
because my baby was crying.
593
00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:23,989
And it was in the morning.
594
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:26,288
And I, like, had to go to him
and give him his bottle
595
00:19:26,289 --> 00:19:27,289
before I could even pee.
596
00:19:27,889 --> 00:19:30,490
And then with my second, I'm
like, eh, she'll be fine.
597
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:32,429
I can go to the bathroom,
brush my teeth.
598
00:19:32,970 --> 00:19:35,170
So I wish I knew that
the first time around.
599
00:19:35,389 --> 00:19:36,669
Do what's best for you.
600
00:19:36,670 --> 00:19:37,669
And your-- and your baby.
601
00:19:37,670 --> 00:19:39,389
You know them better than
anybody else ever will.
602
00:19:39,970 --> 00:19:40,970
All right--
603
00:19:41,089 --> 00:19:42,129
Would you agree with that?
604
00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:43,766
I would-- I would
agree with that.
605
00:19:43,767 --> 00:19:44,749
OK.
606
00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:45,669
Yes.
607
00:19:45,670 --> 00:19:47,049
All right, let's switch gears.
608
00:19:47,429 --> 00:19:49,928
Kenny caught a lot
of smoke for moving Whitney
609
00:19:49,929 --> 00:19:54,010
all the way to New York without
giving her a ring or a closet.
610
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:56,789
But rumors that Kenny
and Whitney's relationship
611
00:19:56,790 --> 00:20:01,830
lacked a spark had this
entire group all lit up.
612
00:20:02,450 --> 00:20:03,450
Watch this.
613
00:20:03,929 --> 00:20:06,190
She moved across
the country before the ring.
614
00:20:06,329 --> 00:20:08,608
You can't around
with this, like, at all.
615
00:20:08,609 --> 00:20:09,869
I'm getting I hate men vibes.
616
00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:12,189
I'm just allergic
to, like, annoying men.
617
00:20:12,190 --> 00:20:14,369
Sometimes you-- you go in a
relationship and you feel this
618
00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:16,970
spark and this buzz and this
fire, where you're like,
619
00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:18,070
this is my person.
620
00:20:18,184 --> 00:20:19,242
Right.
621
00:20:19,383 --> 00:20:20,721
And it's hard to know,
for me, like, is the,
622
00:20:20,897 --> 00:20:22,448
like, this is
the one and I know it
623
00:20:22,624 --> 00:20:23,892
for sure sparked spark there?
624
00:20:24,069 --> 00:20:25,069
Yeah.
625
00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:28,129
Kenny said that
he's unsure if there's
626
00:20:28,130 --> 00:20:30,070
a spark between you guys.
627
00:20:30,190 --> 00:20:32,710
He might have used
the word murky.
628
00:20:32,970 --> 00:20:34,528
All I know is I had
a birthday dinner yesterday.
629
00:20:34,529 --> 00:20:37,528
And my girlfriend was upset
because of the word murky.
630
00:20:37,529 --> 00:20:41,088
Kyle said that you're
doubting-- doubting the spark.
631
00:20:41,089 --> 00:20:42,288
Why is he running his mouth?
632
00:20:42,289 --> 00:20:43,409
But I'm not running my mouth!
633
00:20:44,009 --> 00:20:45,089
I can't deal with a wall.
634
00:20:46,649 --> 00:20:49,758
So Gabby from Houston,
Texas on Threads
635
00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:52,169
said, Kenny, why is it
so crazy for Lindsay
636
00:20:52,290 --> 00:20:54,848
to say to you that it's a big
gesture for your girlfriend
637
00:20:54,849 --> 00:20:57,329
to move across the country from
her friends without a ring?
638
00:20:57,549 --> 00:20:58,549
Do you not agree?
639
00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:01,210
I agree, it's a big gesture.
640
00:21:01,409 --> 00:21:03,329
She's projecting her situation
onto my relationship.
641
00:21:03,468 --> 00:21:04,505
- What situation?
- Let him finish.
642
00:21:04,506 --> 00:21:05,852
Let him finish.
- She was very, like--
643
00:21:05,964 --> 00:21:07,338
Kenny, I think she
was asking you a very--
644
00:21:07,339 --> 00:21:08,338
- Let him finish.
- basic question.
645
00:21:08,339 --> 00:21:09,189
- OK, let's let him--
- You know what?
646
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:11,030
Let's let him finish.
647
00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:12,630
Let's-- please,
let's let him finish.
648
00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:14,849
OK, before
the minions step in--
649
00:21:14,949 --> 00:21:16,990
How about we just say,
yeah, it's a really big step.
650
00:21:17,089 --> 00:21:18,088
I'm so grateful she's here.
651
00:21:18,089 --> 00:21:19,449
But I want to hear
from Whitney.
652
00:21:19,570 --> 00:21:21,270
I want to know
Whitney's reaction
653
00:21:21,689 --> 00:21:24,469
to watching back when
Lindsey first grilled
654
00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:26,470
Kenny about your relationship.
655
00:21:26,869 --> 00:21:27,929
How did you take it?
656
00:21:28,190 --> 00:21:29,558
I-- it felt very intense.
657
00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:34,629
I think, if you're saying
it was, like, out of my best
658
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:36,049
interest, you would
have just, like,
659
00:21:36,050 --> 00:21:37,650
asked the questions,
versus, like--
660
00:21:37,789 --> 00:21:39,009
I did ask the questions.
661
00:21:39,249 --> 00:21:40,929
insinu-- but you
were insinuating judgment
662
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:44,249
on the questions, versus
just understanding
663
00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:45,429
and hearing his perspective.
664
00:21:45,670 --> 00:21:46,829
I'm just asking questions.
665
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:48,948
And as he's looking
around, making
666
00:21:48,949 --> 00:21:50,869
sure you're not
right there to make
667
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:53,828
sure you don't know that
he fucked around on you--
668
00:21:53,829 --> 00:21:54,829
- I actually knew that.
- whenever.
669
00:21:55,018 --> 00:21:56,317
We talked about--
670
00:21:56,318 --> 00:21:57,428
- We weren't together.
- I'm paying attention.
671
00:21:57,429 --> 00:21:58,429
Let's be very clear.
672
00:21:58,529 --> 00:22:00,189
I'm paying attention
to his friends.
673
00:22:00,190 --> 00:22:01,190
- We were not together.
- That's OK.
674
00:22:01,329 --> 00:22:02,588
OK, so let's not
paint some picture.
675
00:22:02,589 --> 00:22:03,069
I'm not even--
I'm not painting a picture.
676
00:22:03,070 --> 00:22:04,589
I got out of an 11-year
relationship,
677
00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:05,589
eight-year relationship.
678
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:06,559
OK, so when I can
finish, let me know--
679
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,531
And there was
a period of time where--
680
00:22:07,532 --> 00:22:08,018
there was a period of time--
- gaslighter.
681
00:22:08,019 --> 00:22:08,828
where--
682
00:22:08,829 --> 00:22:09,989
When I can
finish, let me know.
683
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:11,209
where we took a step apart.
684
00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:13,849
And I was going through some
very difficult family shit.
685
00:22:14,049 --> 00:22:15,088
When I can
finish, let me know.
686
00:22:15,089 --> 00:22:16,049
And I will let you know.
687
00:22:16,050 --> 00:22:17,269
But when you're going
through something
688
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:19,032
and you lose the only
person in your life that--
689
00:22:19,033 --> 00:22:20,514
- Misogynistic, narcissistic.
- literally--
690
00:22:20,790 --> 00:22:22,170
- That is so not true.
- What are you talking about?
691
00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:23,550
Then let me know
when I can finish.
692
00:22:23,683 --> 00:22:24,722
I have to say--
693
00:22:24,723 --> 00:22:25,731
Well, you just
talk over everyone.
694
00:22:26,336 --> 00:22:27,544
Let someone else speak.
695
00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:31,719
Coming up.
696
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,119
I think you were
off-the-bat defensive.
697
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:35,559
As I should be.
698
00:22:45,450 --> 00:22:46,808
When you're going
through something
699
00:22:46,809 --> 00:22:48,950
and you lose the only person
in your life that literally--
700
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:50,226
Misogynistic, narcissistic.
701
00:22:50,354 --> 00:22:51,469
- That is so not true.
- What are you talking about?
702
00:22:51,630 --> 00:22:53,048
Then let me know
when I can finish.
703
00:22:53,049 --> 00:22:53,971
I have to--
I have to--
704
00:22:53,972 --> 00:22:54,972
Well, you just
talk over everyone.
705
00:22:55,170 --> 00:22:56,369
Let someone else speak.
706
00:22:56,370 --> 00:22:57,073
You're talking-- you're
sitting here screaming.
707
00:22:57,074 --> 00:22:57,709
This has been the whole season.
708
00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:58,769
OK, what do you want to say?
709
00:22:59,070 --> 00:23:00,890
I was making
a point to Kenny,
710
00:23:01,250 --> 00:23:05,490
saying, wow, your girlfriend is
committing hard to right now.
711
00:23:06,009 --> 00:23:07,430
And don't fuck around.
712
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:09,690
That's me taking
Whitney's side.
713
00:23:09,970 --> 00:23:12,189
That's me taking
the perspective of the female
714
00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:15,689
to say, as you're looking
around, talking about--
715
00:23:15,690 --> 00:23:16,999
and your friends
are saying that you
716
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,689
are a fuckboy,
like, my response
717
00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,050
is don't fuck around on her.
718
00:23:21,210 --> 00:23:22,809
She just moved across
the country for you.
719
00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:27,029
I'm literally being a girl's
girl to you, Whitney.
720
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:28,550
That's what happened.
721
00:23:28,910 --> 00:23:30,909
And if you can't
understand that,
722
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:33,889
that's because you have
a very different mindset
723
00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:35,768
as a male in this world.
724
00:23:35,769 --> 00:23:37,150
OK, but can I
just say something?
725
00:23:37,710 --> 00:23:40,429
It didn't seem to land
with her that you were--
726
00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:40,969
No, because--
727
00:23:40,970 --> 00:23:42,510
I feel like if you're
a girl's girl,
728
00:23:42,668 --> 00:23:43,667
you would pull me aside--
729
00:23:43,668 --> 00:23:44,475
she wasn't
in that conversation.
730
00:23:44,476 --> 00:23:45,651
I understand.
731
00:23:46,635 --> 00:23:47,905
But I just asked her what she
thought when she watched it.
732
00:23:48,031 --> 00:23:49,682
And she's saying that she
didn't take it that way.
733
00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:51,209
Well, you know,
me and Whitney
734
00:23:51,210 --> 00:23:52,289
are very different people.
735
00:23:52,290 --> 00:23:54,669
Kenny, Amanda from
Arizona on Threads
736
00:23:54,670 --> 00:23:56,949
said, how you going to go off
on Lindsay when you straight
737
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:58,528
up told Kyle you
were questioning
738
00:23:58,529 --> 00:24:01,410
if there were sparks with
Whitney in the first episode?
739
00:24:02,029 --> 00:24:03,529
Lindsay has you clocked.
740
00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:05,409
We spoke about
the fact that I had
741
00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:06,409
had an 11-year relationship.
742
00:24:06,410 --> 00:24:07,168
I had an eight-year
relationship.
743
00:24:07,169 --> 00:24:08,170
I had just lost my mom.
744
00:24:08,649 --> 00:24:10,929
And I was in this
place where I was
745
00:24:10,930 --> 00:24:15,050
feeling numb to long-term
things working out.
746
00:24:15,250 --> 00:24:16,609
Like, I just wasn't
feeling the spark when
747
00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:18,989
it comes to, like, long term.
748
00:24:18,990 --> 00:24:19,939
OK.
749
00:24:19,940 --> 00:24:21,619
And of course, it's
unfortunate that--
750
00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:22,589
You were scared.
751
00:24:22,590 --> 00:24:24,990
I was grieving and I
was trying to, like--
752
00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:26,489
and be in the moment.
753
00:24:26,490 --> 00:24:28,989
But I was having, like,
these doubts about long term,
754
00:24:28,990 --> 00:24:29,769
in general.
755
00:24:29,770 --> 00:24:31,530
And I said, I think
it's a me thing,
756
00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:33,429
and I have to figure that out.
757
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:35,569
So Whitney, having watched
the conversation where
758
00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:38,890
Kenny's concerns about your
future as a couple, did they--
759
00:24:39,030 --> 00:24:40,149
how did they land with you?
760
00:24:40,150 --> 00:24:43,328
I had figured, like, when
Lexi and Georgina, like,
761
00:24:43,329 --> 00:24:46,109
brought this, that I was
in disbelief about it
762
00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:47,670
because we had had
these conversations.
763
00:24:47,950 --> 00:24:51,150
But the words obviously,
like, started ruminating,
764
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,303
like, oh, my gosh,
like, the weight
765
00:24:52,304 --> 00:24:53,329
of this move and whatever.
766
00:24:53,330 --> 00:24:56,349
And you see me get upset
because the last thing
767
00:24:56,350 --> 00:24:58,450
I want to do is, like, miss
something in a relationship.
768
00:24:58,590 --> 00:25:00,069
But all I had to do
was go talk to him
769
00:25:00,070 --> 00:25:01,070
and, like, be reassured--
770
00:25:01,250 --> 00:25:03,129
If I can stand up
for my boy for a second--
771
00:25:03,130 --> 00:25:03,953
the feelings
in the relationship.
772
00:25:03,954 --> 00:25:04,541
And with a little bit of--
773
00:25:04,542 --> 00:25:05,269
Are you sure you
want to do that?
774
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:07,750
I think you were,
off the bat, defensive.
775
00:25:07,870 --> 00:25:08,869
Yes.
776
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:09,948
And I should be.
777
00:25:09,949 --> 00:25:11,275
And just as--
learn from Amanda.
778
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:13,308
She just sat-- she just sat
here and said she wishes
779
00:25:13,309 --> 00:25:13,809
she weren't as defensive.
780
00:25:13,810 --> 00:25:15,429
Yeah, a lot of times,
I feel like you
781
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:17,110
were lacking explanation.
- That would have helped.
782
00:25:17,242 --> 00:25:18,232
That's the thing.
783
00:25:18,233 --> 00:25:19,046
That's why I said that
you haven't been--
784
00:25:19,047 --> 00:25:19,790
If you had just owned
it, less defensive.
785
00:25:19,791 --> 00:25:20,768
accountable
on a lot of things.
786
00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:21,971
No, but I don't think he
was questioning the future.
787
00:25:21,972 --> 00:25:22,809
No, but it's not--
788
00:25:22,810 --> 00:25:25,990
I think he was questioning,
hey, like, I love her, but--
789
00:25:27,301 --> 00:25:28,236
- But he said their future--
- Yeah.
790
00:25:28,237 --> 00:25:29,149
There's a-- you
know, am I at 100%?
791
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:30,849
And I was-- and I was
identifying with--
792
00:25:30,850 --> 00:25:32,449
I've been
unsuccessful before.
793
00:25:32,450 --> 00:25:33,288
- Yeah.
- Repeatedly.
794
00:25:33,289 --> 00:25:34,849
- But nobody--
- And I just lost my mom.
795
00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:35,709
Nobody's judging.
796
00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:37,193
Why is that so hard
to understand?
797
00:25:37,194 --> 00:25:38,196
Nobody's judging.
798
00:25:38,197 --> 00:25:39,204
We're reacting to the words
that came out of his mouth.
799
00:25:39,205 --> 00:25:40,205
All right, I'm moving on.
800
00:25:40,303 --> 00:25:41,342
Gavin, Jennifer F on email,
"I couldn't believe
801
00:25:42,203 --> 00:25:43,241
when you called Whitney
boring to her face."
802
00:25:43,390 --> 00:25:46,990
I said the spark
comment, to be very clear.
803
00:25:47,090 --> 00:25:50,290
Now that I know that you said
it, it sounds all perfect, bro.
804
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:51,710
But like, just perfect?
805
00:25:52,490 --> 00:25:53,630
That's kind of boring.
806
00:25:54,110 --> 00:25:56,548
"What is it about Kenny
and Whitney's relationship
807
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:57,829
that felt boring to you?
808
00:25:57,930 --> 00:25:59,809
They're still together,
so it can't be that boring."
809
00:26:00,550 --> 00:26:04,250
I didn't directly call
her boring or vanilla.
810
00:26:04,570 --> 00:26:07,309
I said that
their relationship is boring.
811
00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:08,448
No, you did.
812
00:26:08,449 --> 00:26:10,170
You said it at me,
not the relationship.
813
00:26:10,287 --> 00:26:11,286
- You said she was boring.
- Because I feel like again--
814
00:26:11,287 --> 00:26:12,149
It read--
815
00:26:12,150 --> 00:26:14,249
they're just trying
to project, again,
816
00:26:14,250 --> 00:26:16,329
not being honest with
themselves and being like,
817
00:26:16,330 --> 00:26:17,129
hey, we're in love.
818
00:26:17,130 --> 00:26:18,130
You moved across country.
819
00:26:18,250 --> 00:26:19,569
We're still figuring it out.
Done.
820
00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:20,209
That's it.
821
00:26:20,210 --> 00:26:21,269
Everything would
have been fine.
822
00:26:21,370 --> 00:26:22,569
She has a tutorial
on how to make toast.
823
00:26:22,570 --> 00:26:23,610
That would be so easy.
824
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:26,929
Jason P emailed, "Do you
agree with Whitney's take that
825
00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:29,828
Gavin is only used to crazy
toxic relationships
826
00:26:29,829 --> 00:26:31,590
and seeing you miserable?"
827
00:26:32,690 --> 00:26:33,689
Yeah.
828
00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:34,609
Think before you answer.
829
00:26:34,610 --> 00:26:36,069
I think part of the--
830
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:39,349
I think part of it
was that Gavin
831
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:41,769
has been in these cycles
of relationships that
832
00:26:41,770 --> 00:26:42,990
are very volatile and toxic.
833
00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:44,249
I have been--
834
00:26:44,250 --> 00:26:45,249
He's really passionate.
835
00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:45,769
Yeah.
836
00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,090
And I have been in those
relationships in the past, too.
837
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:51,109
What I love about this
relationship is that it's not.
838
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,029
It's very grounding.
839
00:26:52,030 --> 00:26:52,829
It feels very safe.
840
00:26:52,830 --> 00:26:54,210
Like, we're
in a really good place.
841
00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:56,389
And I think that that
might come across
842
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:58,230
to boring as some
people, but for me,
843
00:26:58,330 --> 00:26:59,950
it's like, it's regulating.
844
00:27:00,090 --> 00:27:01,090
It feels good.
845
00:27:01,230 --> 00:27:02,469
Like, we're very
happy about it,
846
00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:05,008
and I just don't think he fully
can like, understand that.
847
00:27:05,009 --> 00:27:06,009
Do you dislike Whitney?
848
00:27:06,290 --> 00:27:07,549
- I love Whitney.
- You do?
849
00:27:07,550 --> 00:27:08,169
Yes.
850
00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:10,769
It just annoys me that they
said their relationship
851
00:27:10,770 --> 00:27:12,490
is all travel and excitement.
852
00:27:12,829 --> 00:27:14,730
That sounds like a honeymoon
phase, which is great.
853
00:27:14,886 --> 00:27:15,919
It's much more
than that, obviously.
854
00:27:16,076 --> 00:27:17,892
Now be honest with
everyone and yourselves
855
00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:19,549
that you're still
working on things.
856
00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:20,750
- It's so much more than that.
- That's fine.
857
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:21,910
It's so much more than that.
858
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:23,129
That's absolutely fine.
859
00:27:23,289 --> 00:27:25,569
Whitney, Jasmine said,
on "Watch What Happens Live,"
860
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:28,308
that the most fame
hungry contestant
861
00:27:28,309 --> 00:27:31,209
from Bachelor Nation is you.
862
00:27:31,210 --> 00:27:33,328
Who do you think was
solely in it for the fame?
863
00:27:33,329 --> 00:27:34,310
Ooh.
864
00:27:34,311 --> 00:27:36,150
Only one?
865
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:39,890
Um, I'll say Whitney,
who's on "The City."
866
00:27:40,210 --> 00:27:41,209
All right.
867
00:27:41,210 --> 00:27:42,570
Honestly, if you said that--
868
00:27:42,724 --> 00:27:43,747
That's the most
bizarre thing ever.
869
00:27:43,903 --> 00:27:44,925
I like, didn't even go
far in "The Bachelor."
870
00:27:44,926 --> 00:27:45,669
I wasn't even shown.
871
00:27:45,670 --> 00:27:46,709
Whitney, if you
just said you're
872
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:48,409
with him to be
on reality TV, I would
873
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:50,989
actually prefer that to saying
you're actually with him.
874
00:27:50,990 --> 00:27:52,189
Are you kidding me?
875
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:53,249
At this point, yes.
876
00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:55,869
Wait, the show was even a
thing when they were together.
877
00:27:55,870 --> 00:27:57,730
We were together before
this was even an option.
878
00:27:57,849 --> 00:27:59,570
By the way, I said I
don't want to do it.
879
00:28:01,490 --> 00:28:02,449
Coming up--
880
00:28:02,450 --> 00:28:04,729
I almost threw up
watching this last night
881
00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:08,870
because it was so much worse
than as it was explained to me.
882
00:28:22,099 --> 00:28:24,279
We were together before
this was even an option.
883
00:28:24,379 --> 00:28:26,139
And by the way, I said
I don't want to do it.
884
00:28:26,339 --> 00:28:28,513
After watching everything,
we re-talked about it.
885
00:28:28,514 --> 00:28:30,208
- They weren't even part of--
- Nasty.
886
00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:30,482
any of this.
887
00:28:30,483 --> 00:28:31,679
I watched everything.
888
00:28:31,919 --> 00:28:34,285
Guys, they've been
dating for a long ass time.
889
00:28:34,286 --> 00:28:34,999
Yeah.
890
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,100
I can tell that
there is a genuine love
891
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,939
and you guys have been
doing a lot of steps.
892
00:28:39,059 --> 00:28:41,518
So I absolutely
disagree with the fact
893
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:43,279
that this is just
for-- for reality.
894
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:44,959
So how is the spark today?
895
00:28:45,379 --> 00:28:46,379
Brighter than ever.
896
00:28:46,939 --> 00:28:47,938
Yeah.
897
00:28:47,939 --> 00:28:51,898
Honestly, it's-- I think
it's-- we have such a good
898
00:28:51,899 --> 00:28:53,079
connection and I just
think we're in such
899
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800
a great place that--
900
00:28:54,899 --> 00:28:55,899
Why are you upset?
901
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,240
Well, it's just hurtful that
people think that I was like,
902
00:28:58,474 --> 00:29:00,250
on a show with Kenny for fame.
903
00:29:00,251 --> 00:29:00,985
I don't think that.
904
00:29:00,986 --> 00:29:01,673
I just wish that were the case.
905
00:29:01,674 --> 00:29:03,459
I've been accused
of the same thing for 10 years.
906
00:29:03,647 --> 00:29:04,811
Why do you wish
that was the case?
907
00:29:04,999 --> 00:29:06,088
Because I watched back
the whole show like,
908
00:29:06,238 --> 00:29:07,590
it's actually worse
than I thought.
909
00:29:07,779 --> 00:29:09,558
It's like, you want her
to be friends with everybody?
910
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:10,559
What are you talking about?
911
00:29:10,651 --> 00:29:11,776
You're generalizing
something.
912
00:29:11,937 --> 00:29:13,319
Let me finish talking,
Andy asked me a question.
913
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,979
If you show up to a group
and you want your girlfriend
914
00:29:14,980 --> 00:29:16,678
to be friends with
everybody, you
915
00:29:16,679 --> 00:29:17,860
should be nice to everybody.
916
00:29:18,019 --> 00:29:19,018
You don't attack people.
917
00:29:19,019 --> 00:29:22,839
And maybe this is
a moment for me to own it.
918
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:25,859
But I felt like
the whole season,
919
00:29:25,860 --> 00:29:27,479
especially
in the beginning, I was
920
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,480
having to defend my
relationship, defend my spark,
921
00:29:31,639 --> 00:29:33,060
defend moving Whitney
across the country.
922
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,739
I was in defense mode
to where I couldn't even enjoy
923
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:37,379
hanging out with this group.
924
00:29:37,619 --> 00:29:40,098
And it clearly came
across to everyone else
925
00:29:40,099 --> 00:29:41,399
like I was attacking everyone.
926
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,039
But for me, I know
what I said to Kyle.
927
00:29:44,459 --> 00:29:45,879
I know what I said to Whitney.
928
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,018
I felt like I--
929
00:29:47,019 --> 00:29:48,659
it was all out there.
930
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,759
But for some reason, I
was still having to defend
931
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,938
somebody that I love.
932
00:29:52,939 --> 00:29:55,339
And we were in a great
place at that time and now,
933
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,639
and why am I having to defend
this relationship to everyone?
934
00:29:58,819 --> 00:30:02,298
It was also really hurtful
to watch you talk about us
935
00:30:02,299 --> 00:30:03,279
and you didn't even know us.
936
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,320
Like, I had just met
you guys a week before
937
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:08,779
and your girlfriend
moves to New York.
938
00:30:08,780 --> 00:30:10,860
And the things that you're
saying to her, that Lindsay
939
00:30:11,139 --> 00:30:12,139
has minions--
940
00:30:12,699 --> 00:30:15,298
Lindsay has her
girls, and her girls--
941
00:30:15,299 --> 00:30:16,298
Don't you mean the minions?
942
00:30:16,299 --> 00:30:17,279
That's not minions.
943
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,380
They're called fucking friends.
944
00:30:18,579 --> 00:30:19,939
It's a mean
girl fucking crew.
945
00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:21,691
Kenny's about to get--
946
00:30:21,879 --> 00:30:23,240
And what does that mean?
947
00:30:23,419 --> 00:30:24,838
Like, we're going
to gang up on her
948
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,199
and not give her an opportunity
to be part of our group?
949
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:28,539
We don't even know you.
950
00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:32,898
And it felt like you were
isolating her and creating,
951
00:30:32,899 --> 00:30:34,300
like, a nasty environment.
952
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,698
We are not opinions
or minions or whatever
953
00:30:36,699 --> 00:30:37,558
the fuck you guys were saying.
954
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:38,879
But Yvonne, you even
said when we hung out
955
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,359
as the four of us,
it's OK that I'm
956
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,980
hanging out with Danielle
because Lindsay's
957
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,380
OK with Danielle.
- Lindsay approved.
958
00:30:46,679 --> 00:30:47,838
I don't think
you guys realize,
959
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:49,419
when there's something
that comes up,
960
00:30:49,719 --> 00:30:51,119
you don't think you're
having groupthink,
961
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,459
but you're all having the same
opinion at the same time
962
00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:55,398
against one person.
963
00:30:55,399 --> 00:30:57,239
Lindsay, Bella
from Colorado said,
964
00:30:57,339 --> 00:30:59,258
"You were upset with
Danielle with her comments
965
00:30:59,259 --> 00:31:00,679
about your last
couple relationships.
966
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:02,599
But they were valid concerns.
967
00:31:02,819 --> 00:31:05,698
It seems like you want friends
that are blindly loyal to you
968
00:31:05,699 --> 00:31:07,819
instead of having friends
who share their true
969
00:31:07,820 --> 00:31:09,120
concerns and opinions."
970
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:11,039
No, that's
absolutely not true.
971
00:31:11,399 --> 00:31:14,300
Yvonne is one of the biggest--
972
00:31:15,399 --> 00:31:17,779
you know, she is--
973
00:31:17,780 --> 00:31:18,678
Devil's advocate.
974
00:31:18,679 --> 00:31:20,040
devil's advocate
always with me.
975
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:24,119
Georgina is certainly
highly opinionated.
976
00:31:24,619 --> 00:31:26,299
I mean, even
for years, Danielle
977
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:27,679
has had a lot of opinions.
978
00:31:27,939 --> 00:31:32,658
It's more about I think
there is a fine line when
979
00:31:32,659 --> 00:31:35,438
big decisions are being
made in someone's life of,
980
00:31:35,439 --> 00:31:38,620
like, letting them figure
it out for themselves
981
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,398
or, you know,
really like, feeling
982
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:46,820
like you need to take charge
and take over, you know,
983
00:31:46,939 --> 00:31:47,939
the decision.
984
00:31:48,299 --> 00:31:49,698
I'm actually scared of my--
985
00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:52,659
I'm the minion in all
of my friends, quite frankly.
986
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:55,059
Lexi, do you think
Lindsay and her friends
987
00:31:55,060 --> 00:31:58,239
are a mean girl crew,
as Kenny put it?
988
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,040
No, not at all.
989
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,960
I mean, I consider them
my good friends as well.
990
00:32:04,340 --> 00:32:06,999
And I think, you
know, everybody's
991
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,460
allowed to have
their own opinion,
992
00:32:09,419 --> 00:32:13,158
and it's great that they feel
like they can speak up and
993
00:32:13,159 --> 00:32:17,079
share that and not feel like
they're being silenced or
994
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,359
being led by somebody.
995
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,840
It is lonely on the outside.
996
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,079
The island that I found
myself on was terrible.
997
00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:25,539
I was the oldest girl
in the Summer House for years,
998
00:32:25,540 --> 00:32:27,259
and I was
on an Island for about
999
00:32:27,260 --> 00:32:29,020
five to six years in a row.
1000
00:32:29,260 --> 00:32:31,951
If anyone can understand,
it's me, and I'm OK.
1001
00:32:31,952 --> 00:32:34,638
And I think what we do
in this situation is we hear,
1002
00:32:34,639 --> 00:32:35,550
we listen--
1003
00:32:35,551 --> 00:32:36,409
I'm just fucking tired of it.
1004
00:32:36,410 --> 00:32:37,379
and we learn.
1005
00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:39,599
So maybe from here
on out, when a question
1006
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,360
isn't asked to one of you
three, not everyone is--
1007
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:43,999
Yeah, well, we
can't deal with that.
1008
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,539
Guys, even after
all of this--
1009
00:32:48,001 --> 00:32:49,711
- Like, in terms of this thing.
- I missed it.
1010
00:32:49,881 --> 00:32:51,317
- Of course.
- I don't deny it.
1011
00:32:51,489 --> 00:32:52,788
- What did you say?
- Did you black out?
1012
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,980
I was just saying,
maybe when we hear some--
1013
00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:59,019
when we learn from this
as people are feeling this way.
1014
00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:01,918
And maybe for the rest of the
evening, when one of you three
1015
00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:04,218
aren't asked a question,
not all of you
1016
00:33:04,219 --> 00:33:06,860
answer for that one person.
1017
00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:08,619
I will apologize.
1018
00:33:08,819 --> 00:33:12,000
The word minion, I first
said it at guys' night.
1019
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:13,238
It was not the best
word choice.
1020
00:33:13,239 --> 00:33:15,638
It also felt like you
made up your mind about us
1021
00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:17,300
before you even gave us a shot.
1022
00:33:17,739 --> 00:33:19,300
Kyle, give him
the best advice.
1023
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,898
When you apologize,
don't follow up with but
1024
00:33:21,899 --> 00:33:23,239
and give an explanation.
1025
00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:25,479
Just say you're sorry
and then period.
1026
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,119
That's what I just said.
1027
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,120
From someone who learned.
1028
00:33:27,439 --> 00:33:28,960
And you are wearing yellow.
1029
00:33:29,339 --> 00:33:30,339
Minion yellow.
1030
00:33:30,539 --> 00:33:31,299
OK, very good.
1031
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:32,300
Looks good on you.
1032
00:33:33,452 --> 00:33:34,348
You know it.
1033
00:33:34,349 --> 00:33:35,520
I'm wearing pink, right?
1034
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,459
Kenny, I loved
the scene where
1035
00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:40,980
you reunited with your dad.
1036
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:42,500
I can't believe it.
1037
00:33:46,631 --> 00:33:47,649
Oh, my god.
1038
00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:50,150
I mean, it was so moving.
1039
00:33:50,670 --> 00:33:54,809
That must have been
absolutely just mind blowing
1040
00:33:54,810 --> 00:33:57,210
that that happened so quickly.
1041
00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:03,210
It honestly was
like, a very unexpected
1042
00:34:03,810 --> 00:34:04,970
situation, to be honest.
1043
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:07,989
Like, I'm still, like,
in a little bit of shock
1044
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:09,489
that we talk weekly.
1045
00:34:09,490 --> 00:34:10,169
You do?
1046
00:34:10,170 --> 00:34:11,128
You speak weekly?
1047
00:34:11,129 --> 00:34:12,180
We talk weekly.
1048
00:34:12,181 --> 00:34:13,329
Have you met
your half siblings yet?
1049
00:34:13,489 --> 00:34:15,308
I've met some of them, yeah.
1050
00:34:15,309 --> 00:34:17,849
And you know,
Lindsey and Kenny,
1051
00:34:17,950 --> 00:34:19,809
you've talked about
this a lot and
1052
00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:25,250
about how your lives were
affected by the absence
1053
00:34:25,790 --> 00:34:26,790
of your parents.
1054
00:34:26,889 --> 00:34:28,589
I'm curious what
advice you have
1055
00:34:28,590 --> 00:34:32,170
for people who might be going
through a similar experience.
1056
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:33,869
Well, first, I
want to say, like,
1057
00:34:33,870 --> 00:34:36,469
when I watched
that, I had chills,
1058
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:39,370
and I was completely crying.
1059
00:34:39,789 --> 00:34:43,029
It was beautiful to see,
and I'm so happy for you.
1060
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:45,589
Honestly, genuinely
warmed my heart for you
1061
00:34:45,590 --> 00:34:48,669
because I feel like
it was a missing
1062
00:34:48,670 --> 00:34:52,629
hole that you needed to be
filled that your dad was
1063
00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:53,630
able to fill.
1064
00:34:53,810 --> 00:34:57,630
I think Kenny and I have
very different situations.
1065
00:34:58,370 --> 00:35:01,989
His dad, his
stepmom, were looking
1066
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:03,450
for him, searching for him.
1067
00:35:03,949 --> 00:35:05,110
Mine knows where to find me.
1068
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:06,630
She has my number.
1069
00:35:07,070 --> 00:35:08,110
She chooses not to.
1070
00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:11,649
And that's kind of been
the case my entire life.
1071
00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:13,810
So I think it's
a little bit different.
1072
00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:16,610
I had to spend years
and years in therapy
1073
00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:19,150
to work through those
abandonment issues.
1074
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:21,010
It's never going
to go away for me.
1075
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:26,150
It's more about how I
recognize it, react to it,
1076
00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:30,029
communicate it, and not
let it control me,
1077
00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:34,989
and it's just therapy
and practice and experience.
1078
00:35:35,470 --> 00:35:38,249
I was really
moved hearing you
1079
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:41,849
tell Kenny how what you
went through with your mom
1080
00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:44,450
has impacted the mom that
you want to be with Gemma.
1081
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:46,629
I thought that was
so amazing that you're
1082
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:48,770
trying to break that.
1083
00:35:49,110 --> 00:35:51,749
Yeah, the interesting part
is I don't actually have to try
1084
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:53,409
that hard to break the cycle.
1085
00:35:53,410 --> 00:35:54,143
Right.
1086
00:35:54,144 --> 00:35:57,369
It is innate
inside of me and how
1087
00:35:57,370 --> 00:36:01,149
I've always been wanting
to show up as a mom to Gemma,
1088
00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:06,110
and you, obviously, as a parent
and Georgina as a mom,
1089
00:36:06,246 --> 00:36:09,221
like, we all, like,
just try to do
1090
00:36:09,392 --> 00:36:13,598
the best that we can
to show unconditional love
1091
00:36:13,768 --> 00:36:15,478
at all times, you know?
1092
00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:18,848
And I think that's all that,
like, kids need is like,
1093
00:36:18,849 --> 00:36:21,730
they just need to be kids,
and they need to be loved.
1094
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:24,690
And that's not
that hard to give.
1095
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:27,709
Whitney, have you
noticed a change
1096
00:36:27,710 --> 00:36:30,670
in Kenny since he brought
his dad back into his life?
1097
00:36:31,530 --> 00:36:35,709
Yeah, I think it was
a huge weight lifted off him
1098
00:36:35,710 --> 00:36:37,049
that he didn't even
know was there,
1099
00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:39,070
and I think it brought
us a lot closer.
1100
00:36:39,390 --> 00:36:41,809
Whitney, how do you see
your future with Kenny?
1101
00:36:42,809 --> 00:36:44,929
I mean, we've had
a lot of conversations
1102
00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:50,048
even since the show,
and we've really talked about,
1103
00:36:50,049 --> 00:36:53,768
like, getting engaged this
year and taking next steps
1104
00:36:53,769 --> 00:36:57,869
and being really
confident in that place.
1105
00:36:58,050 --> 00:37:00,430
So it's definitely a different
place than a few months ago.
1106
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,939
Coming up--
1107
00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:05,199
Lindsey, you
collect apologies
1108
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,240
like you collect souls.
1109
00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:18,970
We are back with
the "In the City" reunion.
1110
00:37:19,289 --> 00:37:21,090
Clearly, this group
has baby fever.
1111
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:23,449
Do you want kids someday?
1112
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:25,030
Definitely want kids.
1113
00:37:25,309 --> 00:37:26,469
Kids soon, yeah.
1114
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:30,158
- Maybe minion Martin.
- one.
1115
00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:31,149
Maybe minion Martin.
1116
00:37:31,150 --> 00:37:32,150
Baby minion Martin.
1117
00:37:35,289 --> 00:37:37,828
Well, while Lindsey
was betting on herself
1118
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:39,670
in the New York
City dating scene,
1119
00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:43,288
accusations that she was
playing the single mom card
1120
00:37:43,289 --> 00:37:47,788
had a few people here dealing
out insults and accusations.
1121
00:37:47,789 --> 00:37:48,788
Take a look.
1122
00:37:48,789 --> 00:37:49,869
We're taking the primary.
1123
00:37:49,870 --> 00:37:53,249
Yeah, because we're two
moms that have not been
1124
00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:54,470
away from our kids in a while.
1125
00:37:54,650 --> 00:37:56,170
She always plays
the single mom card.
1126
00:37:57,329 --> 00:38:00,309
And I'm like, OK, you can't
use that excuse for everything.
1127
00:38:00,610 --> 00:38:02,489
You use the word
single mom card.
1128
00:38:03,090 --> 00:38:04,550
She's kind of above
everyone else.
1129
00:38:04,769 --> 00:38:07,530
Everyone bows down to Lindsay,
and I'm sick of watching it.
1130
00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:11,589
OK, I want to see
how the single mom card
1131
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:13,450
comment landed with the group.
1132
00:38:13,570 --> 00:38:15,468
Whitney, what
made you go there,
1133
00:38:15,469 --> 00:38:17,610
and do you regret
that choice of words?
1134
00:38:18,309 --> 00:38:21,869
I am really sorry
that I used that term,
1135
00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:25,269
and even watching
it back, I feel
1136
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:27,368
like that was far
from the point
1137
00:38:27,369 --> 00:38:28,449
that I was trying
to get across.
1138
00:38:28,750 --> 00:38:30,849
Like, I respect you
both as single mothers,
1139
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:32,689
and I see how hard
you work to give
1140
00:38:32,690 --> 00:38:35,309
your kids the life that
you do and how you really
1141
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:36,450
are there for them physically.
1142
00:38:37,250 --> 00:38:39,988
And I don't want
to disregard that.
1143
00:38:39,989 --> 00:38:42,709
And I'm sorry that you felt
a type of way from that comment
1144
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:44,909
because I was really trying
to get the point across
1145
00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:49,029
of standing up for Yvonne
and your friendship
1146
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:51,209
with just the gesture
to kind of, like,
1147
00:38:51,210 --> 00:38:53,629
do something
to help repair going
1148
00:38:53,630 --> 00:38:55,430
into our Friendsgiving weekend.
1149
00:38:57,409 --> 00:39:00,570
And I think that it totally
took a different direction.
1150
00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:03,009
So I just want
to apologize that you
1151
00:39:03,010 --> 00:39:05,350
took it the way that you did
and it came across that way.
1152
00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:08,530
And not only did you say
she uses a single mom card,
1153
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:12,970
but how could she when she
has a nanny and she has help?
1154
00:39:13,250 --> 00:39:16,409
The double down is
what made it worse.
1155
00:39:16,410 --> 00:39:18,589
I almost threw up
watching this last night--
1156
00:39:18,590 --> 00:39:19,622
The part.
1157
00:39:19,623 --> 00:39:21,577
because it was
so much worse than
1158
00:39:21,689 --> 00:39:23,168
as it was explained to me.
1159
00:39:23,309 --> 00:39:26,789
It was so bad, Whitney,
that you doubled down.
1160
00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:29,750
And it wasn't like, oh,
I'm defending Yvonne.
1161
00:39:30,190 --> 00:39:33,210
Like, you had conviction
when you said that.
1162
00:39:33,307 --> 00:39:34,368
- It was the--
- And like--
1163
00:39:34,369 --> 00:39:36,249
It was when you said there
are plenty of mothers who
1164
00:39:36,250 --> 00:39:38,368
are single mothers
who don't have help
1165
00:39:38,369 --> 00:39:40,609
and don't have someone around
and don't have this and that.
1166
00:39:40,610 --> 00:39:42,070
And I'm like, OK,
what's the next part?
1167
00:39:42,449 --> 00:39:43,929
They can't hang out with
their friends either?
1168
00:39:44,170 --> 00:39:46,930
I mean, I appreciate
the gesture of the apology,
1169
00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:50,429
but like, I don't think
you didn't really mean it,
1170
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:50,989
you know?
1171
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:53,529
Like, I think you
were annoyed that we
1172
00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:55,169
took the room because we
said we were moms
1173
00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:56,209
and we needed a break.
1174
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:57,989
And Kenny, if you wanted
to do that gesture,
1175
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:59,150
she's your co-host.
1176
00:39:59,349 --> 00:40:00,730
You should have
talked to her and
1177
00:40:00,872 --> 00:40:02,450
said, hey, why don't we give
Lindsey and Yvonne the room--
1178
00:40:02,451 --> 00:40:03,529
Vice versa.
1179
00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:05,430
There's also two
other large rooms.
1180
00:40:05,969 --> 00:40:07,070
Usually, when
you get to a house,
1181
00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:08,908
you say, OK, what
are we going to do?
1182
00:40:08,909 --> 00:40:09,729
That's not what happened.
1183
00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:14,470
You literally suggested it
in public in front of everyone.
1184
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:16,469
So it was my--
it was my fault.
1185
00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:21,250
just because of how much
we messed up your wedding.
1186
00:40:21,469 --> 00:40:22,469
Totally.
1187
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:23,470
But either way--
1188
00:40:23,650 --> 00:40:25,110
It was coming
from a good place.
1189
00:40:25,610 --> 00:40:28,029
Whitney, can you
name any other instance
1190
00:40:28,030 --> 00:40:32,649
where Lindsey played
the mom card besides when
1191
00:40:32,650 --> 00:40:36,189
she said she and Georgina
were taking the primary rooms
1192
00:40:36,190 --> 00:40:38,849
because they were moms
who haven't been away
1193
00:40:38,850 --> 00:40:39,850
from their kids in a while?
1194
00:40:42,269 --> 00:40:45,309
I misspoke when I said
that you've used that.
1195
00:40:45,449 --> 00:40:49,110
It was more coming from I
felt like you have been in--
1196
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:51,249
I've witnessed these
different situations
1197
00:40:51,250 --> 00:40:52,609
where you feel like
you're a little more
1198
00:40:52,610 --> 00:40:53,929
deserving than other people.
And I--
1199
00:40:54,290 --> 00:40:55,569
So when else
have I complained
1200
00:40:55,570 --> 00:40:56,570
to you about being a mom?
1201
00:40:58,230 --> 00:41:00,269
She just said it was
more about entitlement.
1202
00:41:00,270 --> 00:41:01,589
It was more
about entitlement,
1203
00:41:01,590 --> 00:41:02,630
and it was not about that.
1204
00:41:02,829 --> 00:41:03,829
So I haven't.
1205
00:41:04,010 --> 00:41:05,764
- She just clarified.
- I just said that.
1206
00:41:05,765 --> 00:41:06,460
OK.
1207
00:41:06,461 --> 00:41:09,328
You know cried about what
you said for six months,
1208
00:41:09,329 --> 00:41:11,448
and the only time I didn't
fucking cry about it
1209
00:41:11,449 --> 00:41:12,789
was when you had a scandal.
1210
00:41:12,929 --> 00:41:15,069
So thank you, Amanda,
for taking me out of that
1211
00:41:15,070 --> 00:41:16,809
because it was so hurtful.
1212
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:22,329
The reason I have a nanny is
because I have to work while
1213
00:41:22,330 --> 00:41:24,448
you complain about
your boyfriend
1214
00:41:24,449 --> 00:41:28,449
not paying for a $30,000 closet
in his apartment all season.
1215
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:32,329
I'm providing
for women, and you
1216
00:41:32,330 --> 00:41:36,250
are depending on your boyfriend
to provide for your lifestyle.
1217
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:38,769
That's why it's very hurtful.
1218
00:41:39,150 --> 00:41:42,110
But I came out here just now,
and I apologized for it, and--
1219
00:41:42,850 --> 00:41:43,869
OK, well, you're
going to need
1220
00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:47,928
15 more apologies to any
mom in the entire world.
1221
00:41:47,929 --> 00:41:49,429
It wasn't about that.
1222
00:41:49,529 --> 00:41:51,929
I'm sorry that it came out
that way, but it was a--
1223
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:53,449
Really poor choice of words.
1224
00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:54,629
Lindsey, you
collect apologies
1225
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:55,650
like you collect souls.
1226
00:42:00,460 --> 00:42:03,239
Coming up in part two
of the "In the City" reunion--
1227
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:05,379
Personally, I think I was,
like, very close to someone
1228
00:42:05,380 --> 00:42:06,879
on a dance floor, and--
1229
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,880
Your lips touched.
1230
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:10,139
we'll hear from
the moms and the boys.
1231
00:42:10,959 --> 00:42:11,479
Boys night.
1232
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,480
Boys-- the boys.
1233
00:42:12,739 --> 00:42:13,738
Men.
1234
00:42:13,739 --> 00:42:14,318
No.
1235
00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:16,220
I'll call you a man
when you act like one.
1236
00:42:16,339 --> 00:42:18,419
Regarding the information
that you found out,
1237
00:42:18,420 --> 00:42:21,778
Kyle had had sex with someone
while you were married, when
1238
00:42:21,779 --> 00:42:22,779
did you find that out?
1239
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000
Recently.
1240
00:42:24,659 --> 00:42:28,019
The city doesn't sleep,
and the drama doesn't rest.
1241
00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:29,259
Your mouth is on her neck.
1242
00:42:29,260 --> 00:42:30,299
And I said, who is that girl?
1243
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,500
You said, I don't know.
1244
00:42:31,619 --> 00:42:33,000
I'm not trying
to do anything shady.
1245
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:34,520
Kyle, come on.
1246
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,220
The dramatic conclusion
of the "In the City" reunion.
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